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kubotu::qt-bugs:: [1130426] update-manager unresolvable problem 'Could not initialize the package information' (libqtc... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1130426 (by Ciaran Neeson)00:45
ScottKapachelogger: No.  What bug.01:58
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ovidiu-florinhello world :D06:29
jussio/07:01
soeegood morning07:31
Riddellyay qtwebkit 2.3 compiled09:48
Riddell!testers | qtwebkit 2.3 in ppa:kubuntu-ppa/experimental09:48
ubottuqtwebkit 2.3 in ppa:kubuntu-ppa/experimental: Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan, lordievader for information.09:48
gorgonizerCan I thank all the Kubuntu Ninjas for their superlative efforts with Raring (amazingly stable for Alpha 2), KDE SC 4.10 and KDE Telepathy..  it is amazingly smooth and stable, and uses a lot less memory than previous releases.. very impressed..10:21
Riddellthanks happily received gorgonizer :)10:22
* Riddell trying out windows 8, not too impressed so far10:22
gorgonizerif you ever need anything testing, let me know, will be happy to help out..10:22
gorgonizerI cannot get past the Metro interface..10:23
Tm_Tgorgonizer: rumour says that qtwebkit 2.3 in ppa:kubuntu-ppa/experimental10:23
gorgonizerooh, will have a look.. :)10:23
Riddellgorgonizer: yep please install that webkit and check rekonq and other bits still work10:24
gorgonizerwill do :)10:25
smartboyhwHey ya shadeslayer Riddell yofel_ 10:28
smartboyhwI saw a new build of calligra -0ubuntu2 so I messed up it in the end?10:28
soeegorgonizer, how long are you using raring a2  ?10:32
gorgonizersince last Friday I believe, after my machine had an issue with 3.7 kernel and nvidia drivers..10:34
Riddellsmartboyhw: yofel_ made some fixes you might want to review over10:36
apacheloggerScottK: https://bugs.launchpad.net/precise-backports/+bug/112198510:36
ubottuUbuntu bug 1121985 in Quantal Backports "Please backport mangonel 1.0-0ubuntu1 (universe) from raring" [Undecided,New]10:36
smartboyhwRiddell, OK10:36
gorgonizerwell, webkit 2.3 seems nice and nippy in reKonq.. but flash doesn't work (though I think that is my configuration).. flash works in Konqueror but it seems a bit slower to load and respond (though that may be as I use it as my file manager primarily..10:37
apacheloggershadeslayer: still getting build fails :(10:38
gorgonizerrekonq page loading kicks the arse of the latest firefox released on raring..10:39
gorgonizerseems to retain the same loading speed in Konqueror too (on non-Flash pages),,10:40
smartboyhwRiddell, any more packaging to do? 10:44
gorgonizerthough I have noticed that pages that autoupdate do cause a slowdown within Konqueror, so the whole window becomes unusable until the auto-update has completed..10:44
gorgonizerwill check that page in reKonq..10:45
Riddellsmartboyhw: calligra could do with a backport?10:45
smartboyhwRiddell, OK. 10:45
gorgonizerwell, reKonq is happily displaying two auto-updating webpages and playing music from Google Play Music with no issues, can happily switch between the tabs and get open new pages too, with no issues10:51
Riddellgorgonizer: flash working?10:56
Riddellshadeslayer: I e-mailed adjam about qtwebkti 2.3 but no reply yet, channel seems dead, what do you think?  should we upload?10:57
smartboyhwRiddell, damn I can't calligra-libs from calligra -0ubuntu210:57
Riddellsmartboyhw: can't what?10:57
smartboyhwRiddell, install10:57
Riddellsmartboyhw: what happens?10:57
smartboyhwthe librcps_plam.so.11.0.0 is still there10:57
gorgonizerRiddell: not in reKonq, but in Konqueror..10:57
smartboyhwRiddell, dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/calligra-libs_1%3a2.6.1-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb (--unpack):10:57
smartboyhw trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/librcps_plan.so.11.0.0', which is also in package calligraplan 1:2.6.1-0ubuntu210:57
Riddellgorgonizer: hmm, that's a problem10:57
smartboyhwI will propose an immediate fix for that one10:58
Riddellhmm youtube is using html5 in rekonq for me10:58
Riddellwhich I suppose is nice to know html5 is working but means I don't know how to test flash10:59
gorgonizerRiddell: with a number of tabs open trying to open About reKonq causes a freeze, which has just stopped Google Play from streaming a tune..10:59
Riddellgorgonizer: does this page work for flash? http://www.chemgapedia.de/vsengine/info/en/help/requirements/flash.html10:59
gorgonizerRiddell: if your are in the UK, go to iPlayer.. Flash only as far as I know..10:59
Riddellgorgonizer: oh iplayer has always been broken with rekonq11:00
Riddellthat's an iplayer issue nothing to do with rekonq though :(11:01
Riddellit's just the bbc not doing browser detection right11:01
gorgonizeroh.. that is a shame.. ahh.. why does that not surprise me about the BBC??11:01
gorgonizeryes, that flash page you linked me to works... does Youtube have the same issue as iPlayer then?11:02
apacheloggeroh well11:02
gorgonizeras youtube is showing a black video box for me..11:02
Riddellyoutube works fine, and today it works using html511:02
apacheloggerthey made their video format free11:02
apacheloggerthat's something11:02
smartboyhwRiddell, the strange thing is: It SHOULD be fixed already11:03
smartboyhwRiddell, bah yofel_ didn't include the fix in....11:04
gorgonizerahh, reKong plays Youtube videos after I signed in.. so that seems fine then :)11:04
Riddellsmartboyhw: calligra-libs installs fine for me11:05
smartboyhwRiddell, it doesn't for me (-proposed enabled)11:06
Riddellsmartboyhw: oh I don't have calligraplan11:06
smartboyhwRiddell, yeah try that and it will fail11:06
gorgonizerso it is happily streaming music from Google and playing a youtube video (thank electrons for Geoff Peterson)..11:06
Riddellgorgonizer: this google music streaming, is that your music on Google Drive or something else?11:06
gorgonizerErr, Google Play Music.. it is part of the Google Play store for Android, that allows you to store your music collection in the cloud..11:07
gorgonizerthere is a manager applet available from Google for the Linux Desktop to upload your music collection if so desired..11:08
smartboyhwRiddell, for that fix do I put medium or high or still low for urgency?11:09
apacheloggereveryone always praises the electrons11:10
apacheloggerand no one ever thinks of the poor phonons11:10
Riddellsmartboyhw: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/calligra-libs_1%3a2.6.1-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/librcps_plan.so.11.0.0', which is also in package calligraplan 1:2.6.0-0ubuntu111:10
Riddellsmartboyhw: boom!11:10
Riddellsmartboyhw: just leave urgency at low11:10
Riddellsmartboyhw: you know how to fix that?11:10
gorgonizerare phonons the theoretical carrier particle for temperature?  or is that wrong?11:10
smartboyhwRiddell, yep I know11:12
apacheloggerme not caring very much, I always say phonons are the result of a bunch of atoms getting aroused...11:14
gorgonizerRiddell: it appears that until I scroll up and down the html5 player does not load, but know I know that, it is not an issue..11:15
smartboyhwRiddell, https://code.launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/kubuntu-packaging/calligra-2.6.1-0ubuntu3-fix/+merge/14952911:15
Riddellsmartboyhw: needs breaks/replaces too11:21
smartboyhwRiddell, I think yofel_ did thhat11:21
smartboyhwI confirm Riddell yofel_ just missed the two deleting lines (WEIRD)11:21
Riddellsmartboyhw: but now it's needed for the new version11:21
Riddellso bump what he added up to ubuntu311:22
smartboyhwRiddell, what do you mean?11:22
Riddellcalligraplan   Breaks: calligra-libs (<< 1:2.6.1-0ubuntu2)11:23
smartboyhwRiddell, no you see he did an -0ubuntu2 with the break/replace but without actually deleting the librcps_plan.so.11.0.0 and librcps_plan.so.11 11:23
smartboyhwRiddell, ah I get it11:23
smartboyhwwait11:23
Riddellsmartboyhw: that needs to be less than ubuntu3 now since ubuntu2 was also broken11:23
smartboyhwRiddell, check again the merge..the control file is edited11:26
gorgonizerRiddell: with reKonq just crashed..11:28
Riddellgorgonizer: fooey11:29
gorgonizergenerating a crash report now..  though I am going to retry to see if happens again before I do.11:29
smartboyhwRiddell, wait don't merge11:32
* Riddell holds breath11:33
smartboyhwRiddell, I just updated the branch (again) since I simply forgot to change UNRELEASED to raring :P11:34
smartboyhwAnd forget to document the control file change11:34
smartboyhwRiddell, should be OK to merge and upload now11:34
* Riddell breaths11:35
Riddellsmartboyhw: uploaded!11:43
yofel__smartboyhw, Riddell: uh, seems I messed up. Thanks for fixing. (I originally tried to fix that, noticed a few other things and lost the original fix while redoing it -.-)11:43
gorgonizerRiddell: rather involved crash report filed with bugs.kde.org...11:48
gorgonizerhowever rekonq impresses me more each time I use it :D11:50
Riddella rare rekonq fan!11:51
RiddellI find it works great but tends to fail randomly after much use, javascript stops working or it keeps warning about ssl connections or the address bar doesn't accept typing11:52
gorgonizerI have so many browsers installed it is silly, I tend to use FF in the main, with the occasional use of Chrome for flash based sports streams..11:54
gorgonizerso I may try to use rekonq more extensively to see how it compares with prolonged usage..11:54
smartboyhwRiddell, yofel__ : :D11:55
gorgonizerright, bedtime for me.. good night all!11:56
smartboyhwGee my Ubuntu membership application starts 3 minutes later11:57
Riddellsmartboyhw: later than what?11:58
smartboyhwRiddell, 12:00 UTC :P11:58
Tm_Tthan present time11:58
smartboyhwTm_T, thx for explanation:P11:58
* smartboyhw is hoping that he will succeed11:58
smartboyhwShouldn't be difficult though11:58
Riddelldo we need to show up and say what a useful chap you are?11:58
Tm_Tas in 1 minute from now11:58
smartboyhwRiddell, if you want to please do.....11:59
BluesKajHowdy all12:00
smartboyhwHey BluesKaj 12:01
Riddellsmartboyhw: where's your wiki page?12:01
smartboyhwRiddell, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/smartboyhw12:01
BluesKajhi smartboyhw12:01
Riddellsmartboyhw: hey you speak chinese?12:03
smartboyhwRiddell, yep12:04
Riddellthat means you can tell us if our input method support is any good12:04
smartboyhwRiddell, Jesus why is EVERYBODY asking me about inputs?12:04
Riddellbecause they're scary and fragile and none of us use them :)12:04
Tm_Tsmartboyhw: could you give me some input?12:04
smartboyhwTm_T, what input?12:04
smartboyhwRiddell, OK but first of all I need to help my Hong Kong people to package ibus software for cangjie and quick...:P12:05
RiddellTm_T: don't confuse him!12:05
smartboyhwRiddell, LOL12:05
* Tm_T huggles smartboyhw ♥ 12:06
smartboyhwTm_T, LOL12:06
Tm_Twith all motherly love, ofcourse12:07
kubotu::qt-bugs:: [1053166] 4:4.8.3+dfsg-0ubuntu1 ftbfs on armel/armhf @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1053166 (by Matthias Klose)12:07
kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [1124149] Kubuntu 13.04 power button always turn off system @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1124149 (by Turbo)12:10
Riddellsmartboyhw: you should have just gone for kubuntu membership, we show up to our meetings (when we bother to organise them) :)12:18
DarkwingMorning12:18
smartboyhwRiddell, the problem is: Time doesn't fit12:18
yofel__smartboyhw: we have no fixed time, so something could be done there12:19
yofel__how did it go anyway?12:19
Riddellyofel__: still waiting in #ubuntu-meeting12:20
smartboyhwyofel_, hasn't started that. They said they have only reached quorum few minutes ago12:20
yofel__ah12:20
apacheloggerRiddell, smartboyhw: also getting a kubuntu membership autogrants ubuntu membership ;)12:23
smartboyhwapachelogger, I know12:23
apacheloggerwe need some plan for bugs12:33
apacheloggerthey are coming out my nose12:33
smartboyhwapachelogger, oh no12:33
* Darkwing grins12:34
yofel__while at it. Could someone finally subscribe ~kubuntu-bugs to kubuntu-ppa? I feel like the single existing triager for our PPA bugs12:34
shadeslayerRiddell: I haven't tested it12:34
Darkwingapachelogger: you coming to UDS this spring?12:34
apacheloggeryofel__: that's because you are12:35
apacheloggerDarkwing: unlikely12:35
Darkwingapachelogger: uni?12:35
apacheloggeryeah12:35
Riddellthese ubuntu membership people like to keep the suspension levels high12:35
apacheloggerlol12:36
Tm_Tsmartboyhw: you could've got ubuntu membership by Kubuntu folks too I'd say12:36
smartboyhwTm_T, :)12:36
DarkwingI would have +1ed it12:36
apacheloggerwould have been faster anyway12:36
Tm_TKubuntu council is still eligible to give memberships you know12:36
smartboyhwTm_T, I know.....................................12:37
yofel__he's on +3 already anyway12:37
Darkwinglol12:37
smartboyhw+4 :P12:37
smartboyhwShould be easy then:P12:37
DarkwingAnd you could have gottenthe cool @kubuntu.org email addy12:37
Tm_The still can get it12:38
yofel__well, adding kubuntu-membership ontop of ubuntu-membership should be trivial12:38
apacheloggerthat depends on what the council thinks of him first getting an ubuntu membership...12:38
yofel__apachelogger: I would've done that too if I hadn't been as lazy as I was12:38
Tm_Ttrue, true apachelogger son (:12:38
Darkwinghehehe12:38
* Tm_T huggles Darkwing ♥12:39
Tm_The's alive!12:39
DarkwingHey Tm_T!12:39
smartboyhwLOL12:39
DarkwingYup! Back and happier12:39
Tm_Tsnappier too12:39
DarkwingWho knew that divorce could improve ones self12:39
DarkwingWell, and a move cross country and uni12:40
=== Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: "Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | Raring Alpha 1 Released | Packaging TODO: http://notes.kde.org/kubuntu-ninjas | Upgrade QA : http://kubuntu-qa.dyndns.org/ | congratulation smartboyhw
smartboyhwThat's nice:P12:40
Tm_Tsmartboyhw: let me know when you need some cloak loving12:40
DarkwingI'm actually going to be able to use my degree for Kubuntu :D12:41
smartboyhwTm_T, sure after they added me to Launchpad ~ubuntu-members team:)12:41
apacheloggermoooooon light shadow12:41
Tm_Tyup12:41
* smartboyhw is happy12:41
DarkwingCongrats smartboyhw12:41
smartboyhwDarkwing, thanks!12:41
yofel__smartboyhw++12:42
smartboyhwyofel__, :D12:43
RiddellDarkwing: how will you use your degree for kubuntu?12:44
yofel__Riddell, apachelogger : question: is there a reason *not* to add ~kubuntu-ninjas to ~kubuntu-packagers? We have members without packaging knowledge and commit rights, but ninjas with packaging knowledge and no commit rights12:45
yofel__somehow that sounds wrong12:45
apacheloggerohm12:46
apacheloggernot really about knowledge12:46
yofel__not that getting kubuntu-membership isn't easy, but still12:46
apacheloggerbut about trust12:46
yofel__apachelogger: kubuntu-ninjas have upload permissions to kubuntu-ppa (if we're talking about trust)12:46
DarkwingRiddell: Organizational Leadership. :D12:46
apacheloggeryofel__: yeah12:47
apacheloggerppa != archive12:47
yofel__hm,  ok, I think I just relized what you mean so nvm12:47
apacheloggerthe kubuntu-members create the kubuntu product so anyone who can influence the product without review by a sponsor ought to be trusted by the community12:47
apacheloggerso yes, a ninja may be knowlegable to create our only semi-official ppa builds, that does not mean we ultimately trust them to do that to the actual stable release product though12:49
yofel__yeah, I know, but from that POV even the PPA's are an issue. Considering we keep our SRU packages there and the amount of people that use those.12:49
yofel__Sure the sru parts get another review before ending up in the archive, but still12:50
apacheloggeryou need to opt into the PPA updates12:51
yofel__true...12:52
yofel__apachelogger: ok, you win12:53
apachelogger\o/12:56
apacheloggerwhere's my medal?12:56
yofel__kubotu: order medal for apachelogger 12:56
* kubotu slides medal down the bar to apachelogger12:56
yofel__lol12:56
apachelogger\o/12:56
apacheloggermy cornify is broken12:57
apachelogger:'(12:57
shadeslayerdaw12:58
shadeslayerapachelogger: really?12:58
apacheloggeryeah12:59
apacheloggerjust wanted to cornify kde4libs bugs13:00
apacheloggerand it aint working13:00
* apachelogger depressed13:00
shadeslayer:(13:02
shadeslayercan someone quickly check if this is right : http://paste.kde.org/676850/13:21
Riddellshadeslayer: should you not follow the pattern of the lines above?13:26
Riddellwith / at the start and end13:26
Riddelland ^ and $13:26
smartboyhwyeah....13:26
shadeslayerI was following the examples from Extra-Include13:27
smartboyhwGood another guy passed in the meeting for membership too:)13:29
shadeslayerso something like : /^kde-telepathy-.+$/ and /^libtelepathy-logger-qt4-.$/13:30
smartboyhwTm_T, I got added to ~ubuntu-members now13:30
shadeslayercongrats smartboyhw13:30
smartboyhwshadeslayer, thanks:)13:31
smartboyhwTm_T, I want a Ubuntu member cloak13:31
Tm_Tsmartboyhw: repeat that in #ubuntu-irc so we have staff member involved (:13:32
smartboyhwTm_T, ok13:32
* smartboyhw needs to set up a blog to get it on Planet Ubuntu13:34
Tm_Tyes you do13:34
smartboyhwTm_T, thanks!13:38
Tm_Tnp13:38
Tm_Tall I did was say "please" (:13:38
DarkwingIs plasma Active both tablet and mobile? Or, was the plasma-mobile soemthing else?13:53
Tm_TDarkwing: I think plasma-mobile was the old name of what became active13:53
DarkwingBecause once the code drops tomorrow for ubuntu phone I'm working on two things with it... 1) Porting it to CDMA/4GLTE and 2) Getting active running on the phone and tablet.13:53
Tm_TDarkwing: great13:54
RiddellDarkwing: plasma active is for tablets, confusingly the source package is called plasma-mobile but plasma-mobile is no more13:54
DarkwingSo, there is no more mobile that rbelem was hacking on him n900?13:55
RiddellDarkwing: right, that's been replaced by active for tablets13:55
DarkwingSo, I'm guessing that a phone might be too small for active?13:56
RiddellDarkwing: yeah the UI is a bit too detailed for a phone I'd think13:56
DarkwingRiddell: bugger.13:56
DarkwingBecause piggybacking on what Ubuntu is doing would be awesome IMO. 13:56
Tm_TDarkwing: that shouldn't stop even if it would make things difficult13:58
Tm_Tit is plasma anyway, so you can make it fit I'm sure13:58
DarkwingOh, I'm def going to work on it.13:59
DarkwingThankfully I've already worked with Android Kernel13:59
smartboyhwDarkwing, wow14:04
Darkwingsmartboyhw: ??14:06
smartboyhwDarkwing, wow on you being able to work on Android kernel14:06
Darkwingsmartboyhw: ahhh, Yeah, I've been working with kernel tweaks and Android ROMS for a while.14:06
DarkwingBOOOOOOO Steam on Linux doesn't work in 64bit14:10
yofel__Darkwing: works for me, you might need to run it with STEAM_RUNTIME=014:11
soeeDarkwing, also working for me14:13
Darkwinghmmz.... The .deb wont install and I can't find it in 12.04 repositories14:14
yofel__how does it fail?14:15
yofel__you might need to have multiarch enabled. I didn't check14:15
shadeslayersudo dpkg -i /path/to/deb; sudo apt-get -f install14:15
Darkwinghttp://paste.kde.org/676886/14:19
DarkwingI think I have to install all the -*86 repositories14:19
yofel__errr.... what?14:21
yofel__ steam:i386 depends on xterm | gnome-terminal.  14:21
DarkwingYup. Figured that out.14:21
yofel__that *should* be x-terminal-emulator14:21
DarkwingYay, works now. Thanks guys14:21
shadeslayerooh14:27
shadeslayerRiddell: rekonq + webgl works14:27
Riddellshadeslayer: bling!14:27
shadeslayeras well as spell check14:27
smartboyhw:)14:27
Riddellshadeslayer: what are you using to test?14:27
shadeslayerthe chrome webgl experiments http://www.chromeexperiments.com/webgl/14:28
shadeslayerhttp://alteredqualia.com/three/examples/webgl_cubes.html in particular14:28
Riddell"Your browser does not appear to support WebGL.14:29
RiddellYour browser does not appear to support WebGL.14:29
Darkwingyofel__: what games you play?14:29
RiddellInternet Explorer fail14:29
shadeslayerwot14:30
shadeslayerIE?14:30
* genii-around blinks14:30
smartboyhwRiddell, why on earth would you use IE?14:31
smartboyhwIE is for users to download Firefox or Google Chrome when they first install Windows14:31
Riddellsmartboyhw: got to check out the competition :)14:31
DarkwingIE: The number one browser to download another broswer. 14:31
smartboyhwRiddell, LOL14:31
smartboyhwDarkwing, +114:31
Riddellactually in europe it should ask you which browser you want as the first thing, but it doesn't, I hope somebody goes to jail14:31
smartboyhwRiddell, LOL14:32
shadeslayerheh14:32
Riddellshadeslayer: actually I get "Your browser does not appear to support WebGL" in rekonq too :(14:32
shadeslayer:O14:32
shadeslayeroh14:33
Riddellsmartboyhw: what's your e-mail?14:33
shadeslayerRiddell: you need to enable webgl14:33
smartboyhwRiddell, why?14:33
shadeslayerin the settings > webkit14:33
* smartboyhw is wondering if Riddell wants to send spam14:33
* smartboyhw activates his spam box against Riddell 14:33
Riddellbling!14:33
* smartboyhw receives nothing from Riddell 14:34
smartboyhwNot even in spam14:34
shadeslayerRiddell: I think we should let people in kubuntu-devel know about new webkit and ask to test with rekonq14:34
Riddellshadeslayer: ok worth a shot14:35
Riddellalthough what else is there to test for?14:35
smartboyhwRiddell, of course -0ubuntu3 hasn't happened (referring to the email)14:35
shadeslayerwell14:35
smartboyhwRiddell, that -0ubuntu2 went into -release...14:35
Riddellsmartboyhw: can you reply and say it'll be fixed shortly?14:35
smartboyhwRiddell, I will14:35
shadeslayerI tested reddit, news.ycombinator.com and gmail14:35
shadeslayerworks for me14:35
smartboyhwyofel__ on your suggestion that ~ubuntu-members should also get kubuntu-membership maybe it is better for Kubuntu Council to setup a team that contains Ubuntu members and make it a sub-team of Kubuntu members:P14:37
smartboyhws/~ubuntu-members/~ubuntu-members who contribute to Kubuntu/14:38
kubotusmartboyhw meant: "yofel__ on your suggestion that ~ubuntu-members who contribute to Kubuntu should also get kubuntu-membership maybe it is better for Kubuntu Council to setup a team that contains Ubuntu members and make it a sub-team of Kubuntu members:P"14:38
shadeslayerRiddell: http://paste.kde.org/676916/14:41
shadeslayerreview plz14:41
smartboyhwshadeslayer, that seemed good:)14:42
smartboyhwshadeslayer, no it doesn;t14:42
shadeslayer?14:42
shadeslayerwhat's wrong?14:42
smartboyhwlibtelepathy-logger-qt4 is missing a + in between -. and $14:42
smartboyhwshadeslayer, ^14:42
shadeslayergood point14:42
shadeslayernote that I do not know what the hell this regex is doign14:43
shadeslayer*doing14:43
shadeslayerI simply looked at the stuff above and copied it14:43
shadeslayerso someone has to explain it to me before I go ahead and commit14:43
shadeslayersmartboyhw: fixed14:43
smartboyhwRiddell, apachelogger ^14:43
smartboyhwshadeslayer, OK.....14:43
rbelemDarkwing, pong14:45
Riddellshadeslayer: also kde-config-telepathy-accounts and there's some telepathy plasma bits?14:49
Riddellshadeslayer: / / denoted the start and end of the regex14:49
Riddell^ matches the start of a word, $ the end14:49
Riddell. matches any character and + matches one of more of those any characters14:50
smartboyhwRiddell, wow14:51
shadeslayerI see14:52
shadeslayerRiddell: as for the plasma bits, yeah, should add plasma-widget-telepathy-presence to that  list14:53
murthygood evening everyone14:53
ScottKapachelogger: done14:55
shadeslayerhmm14:55
shadeslayerRiddell: can source package names be added to supported?14:56
Riddellshadeslayer: I think it needs binaries but the upload rights thing looks up the source package for that15:03
Riddellmurthy!15:03
murthyRiddell: hi15:03
Riddellhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/jriddell/8492592646/in/photostream  blogging proved too difficult for IE15:03
shadeslayerI see15:03
shadeslayerhaha15:04
shadeslayerRiddell: new laptop?15:04
Riddellshadeslayer: yep15:04
Riddelland really, IE crashes when I try to blog15:05
Riddellevery time15:05
smartboyhwRiddell, just go and install Kubuntu 13.04 in it:P15:05
shadeslayerdoes this sound right :  * /^libktpcommoninternalsprivate.+$/15:05
smartboyhwshadeslayer, yep15:05
shadeslayerbut I don't think it's needed15:06
shadeslayerit's already seeded15:06
shadeslayerhttp://paste.kde.org/676940/15:06
shadeslayerdone I think15:06
smartboyhwshadeslayer, LOL15:06
smartboyhwRiddell, so then when will be the next meeting for Kubuntu Council?15:07
* smartboyhw was just asking15:07
Riddellsmartboyhw: whenever someone bothers to organise one15:07
smartboyhwRiddell, LOL. Not me at least (Not even Kubuntu member)15:08
* smartboyhw is testing installing calligra 1;2.6.1-0ubuntu3 (the really fixed version) to see if it goes wrong (in raring-proposed)15:09
=== Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan
Quintasan\o15:13
Quintasansecond semester just started15:13
smartboyhwRiddell, damn even -0ubuntu3 failed15:13
Riddellsmartboyhw: ug, how?15:13
Quintasanand I already missed one subject xD15:13
smartboyhwdpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/calligra-libs_1%3a2.6.1-0ubuntu3_amd64.deb (--unpack):15:13
smartboyhw trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/libkdgantt.so.11.0.0', which is also in package calligraplan 1:2.6.1-0ubuntu315:13
smartboyhwWhat the....15:13
* smartboyhw goes for immediate edit15:13
smartboyhwHow come we need -0ubuntu4 for that!?!?!?!?15:14
* smartboyhw is in not happy status15:20
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smartboyhwWithout the congrats that is15:20
smartboyhwTo any Kubuntu packager: https://code.launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/kubuntu-packaging/calligra-2.6.1-0ubuntu4-fix/+merge/14959515:22
smartboyhwRiddell, ^15:22
smartboyhwBTW why is Alpha 1 still in the topic?15:23
Riddellcos nobody removed it15:23
smartboyhwThis is the most difficult calligra maintenance ever15:23
smartboyhwRiddell, I will just change 1 to 215:23
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smartboyhwLOL15:23
smartboyhwshadeslayer, eh? kubuntu-qa.dyndns.org has a ERROR15:25
* Riddell write a grumpy blog http://blogs.kde.org/2013/02/20/morning-windows-815:26
Quintasanyofel__: unhandled ERROR [Errno 17] File exists: '/var/www/kubuntu-backports':15:27
Quintasanbest QA bot ever15:27
Quintasan:DDDD15:27
smartboyhwRiddell, like!15:28
smartboyhwLOL15:28
smartboyhwClearly my first post after getting my WordPress blog set up for Planet Ubuntu is "Why is calligra packaging *THAT* difficult?"15:31
Riddellcompared to libreoffice I'm sure it's trivial15:32
Riddellshadeslayer: do you still need ktp uploaded?15:33
smartboyhwRiddell, please merge the -0ubuntu4 fix15:33
smartboyhwand please upload:P15:34
* smartboyhw expects installation error for -0ubuntu4 tmr15:34
Riddellsmartboyhw: what makes you think kdgantt is only used by plan?15:35
Riddell(you may well be right)15:35
smartboyhwRiddell, um at least the installation shows it crashes with plan.....15:35
Riddellfind . -name CMakeLists.txt  | xargs grep kdgan   suggests you're right15:35
smartboyhw:)15:36
* smartboyhw wonders will there be a -0ubuntu1015:38
smartboyhwThat will be the world's most record-breaking time ever:P15:38
Riddellit's not unknown15:38
Riddellsmartboyhw: uploaded!15:41
smartboyhwRiddell, thx15:42
shadeslayerRiddell: yes plz15:43
Riddellshadeslayer: what's the PPA again?15:43
yofel__Quintasan: that page is maintained by shadeslayer 15:43
shadeslayerQuintasan: smartboyhw yeah, blame python15:44
smartboyhwshadeslayer, !?15:44
yofel__shadeslayer: where's the code for that, only on the server?15:44
shadeslayerRiddell: https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/nightly15:44
shadeslayeryofel__: at the moment yes15:44
yofel__ok15:44
shadeslayerapachelogger suggested we juju15:45
shadeslayerbut the local setup refuses to work15:45
shadeslayeralso, with juju, it'll be like a 10-15 SLOC script :P15:45
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shadeslayeror we could make a charm to do everything15:46
ScottKsmartboyhw: ubuntu10 isn't that much. debian-installer | 20101020ubuntu21415:47
ScottK(and no, that's not an invitation to go try and merge it)15:47
davmor2Riddell: welcome to my world of win8 pain :D15:49
Riddelldavmor2: it's just so.. crap15:51
Riddellthese people have billions and they come up with this crap?15:51
shadeslayerRiddell: please take care when uploading tp-logger-qt15:52
shadeslayerit has +ppa1 in the versioning15:52
davmor2Riddell: I have to test new windows u1 builds on it, I have never hated an os before,  I may not of liked them but this is real deep hatred15:52
yofel__my 2 collegues at work kind of like win8, but they pretty much only use the desktop and installs some app that acts as a start menu15:52
yofel__*installed15:53
Tm_Tdavmor2: hah, I did try use Win8 for a week, but it's so inconsistent and random you spend more time trying to find how things work instead of doing what you're trying to do15:53
RiddellI could have written a blog twice as long listing twice as many bits of fail, but it's not worth my time15:53
smartboyhwScottK, wow15:54
* Tm_T is happy the last windows desktop in their work is gone now15:55
Riddellacutally I did fine one thing that works better, plug in usb headphones and after 5 minutes the sound comes out of them, phonon/pulseaudio have yet to learn that trick15:56
ScottKThat's supposed to work.16:00
ScottKProbably apachelogger drinking instead of coding at the root of it.16:00
Riddellon rebooting this windows machine "Your PC will restart in 2 days to finish installing important updates."  what the hell were they thinking?16:22
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Riddellshadeslayer: uploaded!16:26
murthyRiddell: Nice windws 8 post16:31
shadeslayerthx16:35
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BluesKajBBL17:00
Riddelldavmor2: mm I don't suppose you know how to boot into the firmware on a vaio?17:05
davmor2Riddell: F2 is the norm, but failing that DEL or F12 are sometimes used17:05
davmor2Riddell: any joy?17:08
Riddelldavmor2: nope :(17:12
davmor2Riddell: what vaio is it17:14
Riddelldavmor2: oh weird17:14
Riddellyou don't press the power key to turn it on17:15
Riddellyou press the assist key to turn it on17:15
Riddellweirdness17:15
davmor2haha17:15
sakangknotify is segfaulting in 3.8 kernel?17:15
RiddellI don't know if I should be pleased this firmware uses oxygen icons or affronted that they have illegally pirated our Oxygen icons17:15
davmor2Riddell: just found http://www.overclock.net/t/1321845/sony-vaio-uefi-bios-windows-7-8 too :)17:16
Riddellthat has got to be the least intuitive UI I've used all day.  and I've been using Windows 8 all day.17:17
sakangRiddell: how can F3 be more intuitive than 'assist' to get to BIOS?17:19
Riddellsakang: it's not but the power key is what I'd expect as a first step to power it on17:20
sakangRiddell: unless it's not from a complete shutdown?  meaning from a sleep/suspend mode?17:22
Riddellsakang: and I doubt the linux version has any affect on knotify17:22
shadeslayerRiddell: pics of the firmware?17:23
RiddellI'll take one in a minute17:23
sakangRiddell: maybe, but the dump trace is coming from knotify only in 3.8, not in 3.7 nor 3.4. currently on gnome box with openbox and not seeing it17:28
Riddellshadeslayer: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jriddell/8492966744/17:35
Riddellthe Start Bios one is an oxygen icon17:35
shadeslayer:D17:35
Riddellsame one used here by "configure" http://www.sony.co.uk/customise/vaio-t-series17:38
apacheloggerRiddell: sound from what?17:38
apacheloggerScottK: thanks for backport17:39
Riddellapachelogger: my headphones (I've moaned to you about it before and you said to moan to coling)17:39
apacheloggeryeah17:39
apacheloggerthough depending on what app produces the sound it may not be coling's fault :P17:40
apacheloggerthat is to say.. for some reason on-the-fly rewiring is not working, which only impacts currently outputting stuff ... such as amarok playing a song... next song would be on new device17:41
apacheloggeryofel_: bug 113078417:43
ubottubug 1130784 in python-qt4 (Ubuntu) "Support Qt5" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/113078417:43
shadeslayerapachelogger: funny thing, removign the tile makes the background solid grey18:15
shadeslayerand looks better :P18:15
davmor2Riddell: you're right the vaio thing is not exactly pretty18:15
apacheloggershadeslayer: shouldn't be solid grey with latest ks18:16
shadeslayerks?18:16
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Riddellok this is unexpected, 12.04.1 doesn't boot on the secure boot system but 12.04.2 does.  even though we didn't add any secure boot stuff18:28
yofelmaybe they SRU'd some things for the kernel and boot18:28
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apacheloggershadeslayer: kubuntu-settings18:31
shadeslayerI see18:31
* shadeslayer compiles qtwebkit with gstreamer 1.018:32
soeei need that person with 13.04 installation, do you remember who was it here today ?18:35
apacheloggerI think there's plenty of people with a 13.04 install here :P18:42
BluesKajthat person ..heh18:44
shadeslayersoee: moi18:44
shadeslayeralso #ubuntu+1 18:44
soeeapachelogger, yes but he said sometging about problems woth nvidia drivers i think18:46
apachelogger*shrug*18:46
soeebrb, have to do my excercises 18:48
BluesKajsoee, do you have an issue with nvidia graphics on 13.04 ?18:49
soeeBluesKaj, no i wanted to get more information because i will upgrade to 13.04 my home machine18:50
soee*maybe18:50
apacheloggersimply use nouveau18:51
BluesKajyeah , the default for nvidia after a normal install is nouveau , which works quite well 18:59
BluesKajsoee,^18:59
soeeapachelogger, can you compere performence in games when using novaou and nvidia ?19:02
ScottKapachelogger: No problem.19:37
shadeslayerScottK: when you say you made it work, do you mean the standard ff from the repos?19:38
ScottKshadeslayer: Yes.19:38
ScottKI get the what app do you want to use, I just click OK without picking one and it generally works.19:39
shadeslayerhmm19:39
ScottKNot ideal, but workable.19:39
shadeslayerisn't that what us the problem?19:39
shadeslayermimetype detection19:39
ScottKThe thing is it's detecting it.19:40
ScottKI don't have to tell it what to use, it knows.19:40
ScottKIt's just the U/I is crap because something's confused.19:40
ScottKMaybe I misunderstand the problem.19:40
yofelI think it's more a preference issue. PDF (while it didn't have it built-in) was opened outside in okular, ff used evince by default19:42
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ScottKAs an example of it working well though, I click on a .deb in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+queue?queue_state=0&queue_text= and it opens in ark.20:05
ScottKapachelogger: Your backport is all the way through New now.20:07
shadeslayerok seriously20:15
shadeslayerwhy is plasma-mobile *still* stuck in -proposed20:15
soeewhat do i have to do to upgrade to 13.04 a2 ?20:17
soeefrom 12.1020:17
shadeslayerdo-release-upgrade -d20:17
soeethank you shadeslayer if i disconnect suddenly that its a sign something went wrong :)20:20
shadeslayerit shouldn't 20:21
shadeslayerI checked the upgrade paths yesterday :P20:21
shadeslayerworks just fine20:21
ScottKshadeslayer: Does it make kubuntu-active uninstallable perhaps?20:22
shadeslayeridk how it would manage to do that20:23
soeewhat is it: WARNING: Failed to read mirror file 20:23
shadeslayersoee: erm, no idea, just ignore that20:23
soeeok20:23
soeei like this info: system upgrade may take few hours :D20:24
ScottKshadeslayer: I added a hint for plasma-mobile.  Let's see if that moves it.20:27
shadeslayerthx20:27
ScottKIf it doesn't migrate after the next publisher run, ping me and I'll get a bigger hammer.20:28
shadeslayerScottK: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html20:28
shadeslayersays Valid candidate20:28
ScottKYes.20:28
shadeslayerwhat exactly does that mean?20:28
ScottKThen you have to look at http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_output.txt20:29
shadeslayerright, and it says something about kubuntu-active but I don't understand how to read that20:29
ScottKIn this context Valid means it's ready, by itself, to migrate.  The update_output.txt file shows other packages it affects.20:29
shadeslayerI see20:33
shadeslayerapachelogger: http://notes.kde.org/kubuntu-gstreamer-1-0-transition20:52
shadeslayerjust some notes off the top of my head20:52
jussiRiddell: you are awesome. Loved your blog post20:59
soeeis it important:21:10
soeemodprobe: ../tools/modprobe.c:550: print_action: Assertion `kmod_module_get_initstate(m) == KMOD_MODULE_BUILTIN' failed.21:10
soeeAborted (core dumped) ?21:10
shadeslayeruh yeah21:10
shadeslayerthe way to fix that21:10
shadeslayerwhat was it21:11
* shadeslayer can't remember21:11
soee:D21:11
shadeslayerokay in /etc/modprobe.d you have to grep for off21:11
shadeslayerand then change that to blacklist?21:12
soeeok ill check after upgrade is finished21:12
shadeslayersoee: ATI card?21:12
soeeshadeslayer, Nvidia21:12
shadeslayerokay21:12
shadeslayerso it's mostly likely something from the nvidia conf file in /etc/modprobe.d21:12
soeemight be as im using latest driver21:13
yofelshadeslayer: i.e. s/off/blacklist/ ? http://paste.kde.org/67720421:17
shadeslayerlike I said, I don't remember precisely, but it was either blacklist or off21:22
shadeslayerand I believe it was off21:22
shadeslayerbecause my histroy says I grepped for off21:22
shadeslayer#ubuntu-kernel knows about the issue more21:22
soeeuhm21:30
soee * No suitable module for running kernel found21:30
soee                                                                                                                            [fail]21:30
soeeinvoke-rc.d: initscript virtualbox, action "restart" failed.21:30
soeeinvoke-rc.d: release upgrade in progress, error is not fatal21:30
soeeKonfigurowanie pakietu virtualbox-qt (4.1.22-dfsg-0ubuntu2) ...21:30
soeeshadeslayer, upgrade finished21:44
soeeeverything works fine21:44
shadeslayerawesome21:44
yofelubuntu seems to intend to keep their word to keep raring usable so far21:45
yofelthough the real trial will be post-feature-freeze21:45
shadeslayeryeah21:45
shadeslayerwe need more QA IMHO21:45
shadeslayerI'm discovering some kwin bugs right now21:45
shadeslayerspecifically with the gles binary21:45
yofelwell, yeah mister obvious LP21:45
yofel:P21:45
shadeslayersee kde bug 31554021:45
ubottuKDE bug 315540 in general "Weird rendering issues on Kubuntu Raring and Project Neon" [Normal,Confirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31554021:45
yofelfun21:46
* yofel tries to reliably reproduce kde bug 21:47
yofelkde bug 31175121:47
ubottuKDE bug 311751 in widget-systemtray "QML system tray crashes plasma-desktop on startup" [Crash,Resolved: upstream] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31175121:48
yofelmy mouse is being weird...21:48
shadeslayerthen there's kde bug 315528 from master :P21:49
ubottuKDE bug 315528 in general "KWin crashes when switching windows" [Crash,Confirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31552821:49
yofelI thought marting hated bugs from git? :D21:50
yofel*martin21:50
shadeslayerhe does? idk21:50
shadeslayerseems like a pretty serious one to me, and I could reliably reproduce21:50
yofel"Upstart user session available for testing" - why does this feel like systemd?21:53
shadeslayerheh21:56
shadeslayerupstart is playing catch up with systemd21:56
shadeslayersigh, what do I do, qtwebkit is compiling21:58
yofelfound out what was crashing rekonq?21:59
shadeslayeryofel: hm, maybe we can add a neon backend to kdesrc-build?21:59
shadeslayerhah, it's flash22:00
shadeslayerit's always flash22:00
shadeslayer:P22:00
yofeloh, nvm then ^^22:00
yofelshadeslayer: well, probably - what for?22:00
shadeslayeryofel: well ... if you're on *buntu then you have an option to either go all neon or compile everything from source22:01
shadeslayerfor eg22:01
shadeslayeryou want to compile kde-workspace22:01
shadeslayeryou start kdesrc-build, and if you choose the neon-backend it'll download the tools and project-neon-kdelibs and stuff , clone kde-workspace and build using neon-cmake22:01
yofelwell, it would probably work22:01
shadeslayerplus you could use apt-get builddep to do most of the stuff22:02
yofeltrue22:02
shadeslayerjust a thought22:02
jussigents, getting this in Raring: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1693551/22:08
jussi(and ladies, sorry)22:08
yofeljussi: fixed in ubuntu422:09
shadeslayerblame smartbowhw :P22:09
shadeslayerand what yofel said22:09
yofeland me -.-22:09
shadeslayeroh22:09
shadeslayerblame smartboyhw and yofel :P22:09
jussihehe22:09
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yofelsmartboyhw broke it, I fixed it without including the fix, smartboyhw fixed it partly, smartboyhw fixed it completely (that's ubuntu1-4)22:10
jussigues I gotta wait for it to hit my mirror.22:10
jussitomorrow then :)22:10
shadeslayerlol22:10
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shadeslayerooooh, only 4 more tasks left for this week, only 2 of them being work related \o/22:18
shadeslayerand both of them related to gstreamer :D22:18

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