[00:45] ::qt-bugs:: [1130426] update-manager unresolvable problem 'Could not initialize the package information' (libqtc... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1130426 (by Ciaran Neeson) [01:58] apachelogger: No. What bug. === gorgonizer_ is now known as gorgonizer === murthy is now known as murthy_ === jackyalcine is now known as zz_jackyalcine [06:29] hello world :D [07:01] o/ [07:31] good morning [09:48] yay qtwebkit 2.3 compiled [09:48] !testers | qtwebkit 2.3 in ppa:kubuntu-ppa/experimental [09:48] qtwebkit 2.3 in ppa:kubuntu-ppa/experimental: Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan, lordievader for information. [10:21] Can I thank all the Kubuntu Ninjas for their superlative efforts with Raring (amazingly stable for Alpha 2), KDE SC 4.10 and KDE Telepathy.. it is amazingly smooth and stable, and uses a lot less memory than previous releases.. very impressed.. [10:22] thanks happily received gorgonizer :) [10:22] * Riddell trying out windows 8, not too impressed so far [10:22] if you ever need anything testing, let me know, will be happy to help out.. [10:23] I cannot get past the Metro interface.. [10:23] gorgonizer: rumour says that qtwebkit 2.3 in ppa:kubuntu-ppa/experimental [10:23] ooh, will have a look.. :) [10:24] gorgonizer: yep please install that webkit and check rekonq and other bits still work [10:25] will do :) [10:28] Hey ya shadeslayer Riddell yofel_ [10:28] I saw a new build of calligra -0ubuntu2 so I messed up it in the end? [10:32] gorgonizer, how long are you using raring a2 ? [10:34] since last Friday I believe, after my machine had an issue with 3.7 kernel and nvidia drivers.. [10:36] smartboyhw: yofel_ made some fixes you might want to review over [10:36] ScottK: https://bugs.launchpad.net/precise-backports/+bug/1121985 [10:36] Ubuntu bug 1121985 in Quantal Backports "Please backport mangonel 1.0-0ubuntu1 (universe) from raring" [Undecided,New] [10:36] Riddell, OK [10:37] well, webkit 2.3 seems nice and nippy in reKonq.. but flash doesn't work (though I think that is my configuration).. flash works in Konqueror but it seems a bit slower to load and respond (though that may be as I use it as my file manager primarily.. [10:38] shadeslayer: still getting build fails :( [10:39] rekonq page loading kicks the arse of the latest firefox released on raring.. [10:40] seems to retain the same loading speed in Konqueror too (on non-Flash pages),, [10:44] Riddell, any more packaging to do? [10:44] though I have noticed that pages that autoupdate do cause a slowdown within Konqueror, so the whole window becomes unusable until the auto-update has completed.. [10:45] will check that page in reKonq.. [10:45] smartboyhw: calligra could do with a backport? [10:45] Riddell, OK. [10:51] well, reKonq is happily displaying two auto-updating webpages and playing music from Google Play Music with no issues, can happily switch between the tabs and get open new pages too, with no issues [10:56] gorgonizer: flash working? [10:57] shadeslayer: I e-mailed adjam about qtwebkti 2.3 but no reply yet, channel seems dead, what do you think? should we upload? [10:57] Riddell, damn I can't calligra-libs from calligra -0ubuntu2 [10:57] smartboyhw: can't what? [10:57] Riddell, install [10:57] smartboyhw: what happens? [10:57] the librcps_plam.so.11.0.0 is still there [10:57] Riddell: not in reKonq, but in Konqueror.. [10:57] Riddell, dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/calligra-libs_1%3a2.6.1-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb (--unpack): [10:57] trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/librcps_plan.so.11.0.0', which is also in package calligraplan 1:2.6.1-0ubuntu2 [10:57] gorgonizer: hmm, that's a problem [10:58] I will propose an immediate fix for that one [10:58] hmm youtube is using html5 in rekonq for me [10:59] which I suppose is nice to know html5 is working but means I don't know how to test flash [10:59] Riddell: with a number of tabs open trying to open About reKonq causes a freeze, which has just stopped Google Play from streaming a tune.. [10:59] gorgonizer: does this page work for flash? http://www.chemgapedia.de/vsengine/info/en/help/requirements/flash.html [10:59] Riddell: if your are in the UK, go to iPlayer.. Flash only as far as I know.. [11:00] gorgonizer: oh iplayer has always been broken with rekonq [11:01] that's an iplayer issue nothing to do with rekonq though :( [11:01] it's just the bbc not doing browser detection right [11:01] oh.. that is a shame.. ahh.. why does that not surprise me about the BBC?? [11:02] yes, that flash page you linked me to works... does Youtube have the same issue as iPlayer then? [11:02] oh well [11:02] as youtube is showing a black video box for me.. [11:02] youtube works fine, and today it works using html5 [11:02] they made their video format free [11:02] that's something [11:03] Riddell, the strange thing is: It SHOULD be fixed already [11:04] Riddell, bah yofel_ didn't include the fix in.... [11:04] ahh, reKong plays Youtube videos after I signed in.. so that seems fine then :) [11:05] smartboyhw: calligra-libs installs fine for me [11:06] Riddell, it doesn't for me (-proposed enabled) [11:06] smartboyhw: oh I don't have calligraplan [11:06] Riddell, yeah try that and it will fail [11:06] so it is happily streaming music from Google and playing a youtube video (thank electrons for Geoff Peterson).. [11:06] gorgonizer: this google music streaming, is that your music on Google Drive or something else? [11:07] Err, Google Play Music.. it is part of the Google Play store for Android, that allows you to store your music collection in the cloud.. [11:08] there is a manager applet available from Google for the Linux Desktop to upload your music collection if so desired.. [11:09] Riddell, for that fix do I put medium or high or still low for urgency? [11:10] everyone always praises the electrons [11:10] and no one ever thinks of the poor phonons [11:10] smartboyhw: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/calligra-libs_1%3a2.6.1-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/librcps_plan.so.11.0.0', which is also in package calligraplan 1:2.6.0-0ubuntu1 [11:10] smartboyhw: boom! [11:10] smartboyhw: just leave urgency at low [11:10] smartboyhw: you know how to fix that? [11:10] are phonons the theoretical carrier particle for temperature? or is that wrong? [11:12] Riddell, yep I know [11:14] me not caring very much, I always say phonons are the result of a bunch of atoms getting aroused... [11:15] Riddell: it appears that until I scroll up and down the html5 player does not load, but know I know that, it is not an issue.. [11:15] Riddell, https://code.launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/kubuntu-packaging/calligra-2.6.1-0ubuntu3-fix/+merge/149529 [11:21] smartboyhw: needs breaks/replaces too [11:21] Riddell, I think yofel_ did thhat [11:21] I confirm Riddell yofel_ just missed the two deleting lines (WEIRD) [11:21] smartboyhw: but now it's needed for the new version [11:22] so bump what he added up to ubuntu3 [11:22] Riddell, what do you mean? [11:23] calligraplan Breaks: calligra-libs (<< 1:2.6.1-0ubuntu2) [11:23] Riddell, no you see he did an -0ubuntu2 with the break/replace but without actually deleting the librcps_plan.so.11.0.0 and librcps_plan.so.11 [11:23] Riddell, ah I get it [11:23] wait [11:23] smartboyhw: that needs to be less than ubuntu3 now since ubuntu2 was also broken [11:26] Riddell, check again the merge..the control file is edited [11:28] Riddell: with reKonq just crashed.. [11:29] gorgonizer: fooey [11:29] generating a crash report now.. though I am going to retry to see if happens again before I do. [11:32] Riddell, wait don't merge [11:33] * Riddell holds breath [11:34] Riddell, I just updated the branch (again) since I simply forgot to change UNRELEASED to raring :P [11:34] And forget to document the control file change [11:34] Riddell, should be OK to merge and upload now [11:35] * Riddell breaths [11:43] smartboyhw: uploaded! [11:43] smartboyhw, Riddell: uh, seems I messed up. Thanks for fixing. (I originally tried to fix that, noticed a few other things and lost the original fix while redoing it -.-) [11:48] Riddell: rather involved crash report filed with bugs.kde.org... [11:50] however rekonq impresses me more each time I use it :D [11:51] a rare rekonq fan! [11:52] I find it works great but tends to fail randomly after much use, javascript stops working or it keeps warning about ssl connections or the address bar doesn't accept typing [11:54] I have so many browsers installed it is silly, I tend to use FF in the main, with the occasional use of Chrome for flash based sports streams.. [11:54] so I may try to use rekonq more extensively to see how it compares with prolonged usage.. [11:55] Riddell, yofel__ : :D [11:56] right, bedtime for me.. good night all! [11:57] Gee my Ubuntu membership application starts 3 minutes later [11:58] smartboyhw: later than what? [11:58] Riddell, 12:00 UTC :P [11:58] than present time [11:58] Tm_T, thx for explanation:P [11:58] * smartboyhw is hoping that he will succeed [11:58] Shouldn't be difficult though [11:58] do we need to show up and say what a useful chap you are? [11:58] as in 1 minute from now [11:59] Riddell, if you want to please do..... [12:00] Howdy all [12:01] Hey BluesKaj [12:01] smartboyhw: where's your wiki page? [12:01] Riddell, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/smartboyhw [12:01] hi smartboyhw [12:03] smartboyhw: hey you speak chinese? [12:04] Riddell, yep [12:04] that means you can tell us if our input method support is any good [12:04] Riddell, Jesus why is EVERYBODY asking me about inputs? [12:04] because they're scary and fragile and none of us use them :) [12:04] smartboyhw: could you give me some input? [12:04] Tm_T, what input? [12:05] Riddell, OK but first of all I need to help my Hong Kong people to package ibus software for cangjie and quick...:P [12:05] Tm_T: don't confuse him! [12:05] Riddell, LOL [12:06] * Tm_T huggles smartboyhw ♥ [12:06] Tm_T, LOL [12:07] with all motherly love, ofcourse [12:07] ::qt-bugs:: [1053166] 4:4.8.3+dfsg-0ubuntu1 ftbfs on armel/armhf @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1053166 (by Matthias Klose) [12:10] ::workspace-bugs:: [1124149] Kubuntu 13.04 power button always turn off system @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1124149 (by Turbo) [12:18] smartboyhw: you should have just gone for kubuntu membership, we show up to our meetings (when we bother to organise them) :) [12:18] Morning [12:18] Riddell, the problem is: Time doesn't fit [12:19] smartboyhw: we have no fixed time, so something could be done there [12:19] how did it go anyway? [12:20] yofel__: still waiting in #ubuntu-meeting [12:20] yofel_, hasn't started that. They said they have only reached quorum few minutes ago [12:20] ah [12:23] Riddell, smartboyhw: also getting a kubuntu membership autogrants ubuntu membership ;) [12:23] apachelogger, I know [12:33] we need some plan for bugs [12:33] they are coming out my nose [12:33] apachelogger, oh no [12:34] * Darkwing grins [12:34] while at it. Could someone finally subscribe ~kubuntu-bugs to kubuntu-ppa? I feel like the single existing triager for our PPA bugs [12:34] Riddell: I haven't tested it [12:34] apachelogger: you coming to UDS this spring? [12:35] yofel__: that's because you are [12:35] Darkwing: unlikely [12:35] apachelogger: uni? [12:35] yeah [12:35] these ubuntu membership people like to keep the suspension levels high [12:36] lol [12:36] smartboyhw: you could've got ubuntu membership by Kubuntu folks too I'd say [12:36] Tm_T, :) [12:36] I would have +1ed it [12:36] would have been faster anyway [12:36] Kubuntu council is still eligible to give memberships you know [12:37] Tm_T, I know..................................... [12:37] he's on +3 already anyway [12:37] lol [12:37] +4 :P [12:37] Should be easy then:P [12:37] And you could have gottenthe cool @kubuntu.org email addy [12:38] he still can get it [12:38] well, adding kubuntu-membership ontop of ubuntu-membership should be trivial [12:38] that depends on what the council thinks of him first getting an ubuntu membership... [12:38] apachelogger: I would've done that too if I hadn't been as lazy as I was [12:38] true, true apachelogger son (: [12:38] hehehe [12:39] * Tm_T huggles Darkwing ♥ [12:39] he's alive! [12:39] Hey Tm_T! [12:39] LOL [12:39] Yup! Back and happier [12:39] snappier too [12:39] Who knew that divorce could improve ones self [12:40] Well, and a move cross country and uni === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: "Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | Raring Alpha 1 Released | Packaging TODO: http://notes.kde.org/kubuntu-ninjas | Upgrade QA : http://kubuntu-qa.dyndns.org/ | congratulation smartboyhw [12:40] That's nice:P [12:40] smartboyhw: let me know when you need some cloak loving [12:41] I'm actually going to be able to use my degree for Kubuntu :D [12:41] Tm_T, sure after they added me to Launchpad ~ubuntu-members team:) [12:41] moooooon light shadow [12:41] yup [12:41] * smartboyhw is happy [12:41] Congrats smartboyhw [12:41] Darkwing, thanks! [12:42] smartboyhw++ [12:43] yofel__, :D [12:44] Darkwing: how will you use your degree for kubuntu? [12:45] Riddell, apachelogger : question: is there a reason *not* to add ~kubuntu-ninjas to ~kubuntu-packagers? We have members without packaging knowledge and commit rights, but ninjas with packaging knowledge and no commit rights [12:45] somehow that sounds wrong [12:46] ohm [12:46] not really about knowledge [12:46] not that getting kubuntu-membership isn't easy, but still [12:46] but about trust [12:46] apachelogger: kubuntu-ninjas have upload permissions to kubuntu-ppa (if we're talking about trust) [12:46] Riddell: Organizational Leadership. :D [12:47] yofel__: yeah [12:47] ppa != archive [12:47] hm, ok, I think I just relized what you mean so nvm [12:47] the kubuntu-members create the kubuntu product so anyone who can influence the product without review by a sponsor ought to be trusted by the community [12:49] so yes, a ninja may be knowlegable to create our only semi-official ppa builds, that does not mean we ultimately trust them to do that to the actual stable release product though [12:49] yeah, I know, but from that POV even the PPA's are an issue. Considering we keep our SRU packages there and the amount of people that use those. [12:50] Sure the sru parts get another review before ending up in the archive, but still [12:51] you need to opt into the PPA updates [12:52] true... [12:53] apachelogger: ok, you win [12:56] \o/ [12:56] where's my medal? [12:56] kubotu: order medal for apachelogger [12:56] * kubotu slides medal down the bar to apachelogger [12:56] lol [12:56] \o/ [12:57] my cornify is broken [12:57] :'( [12:58] daw [12:58] apachelogger: really? [12:59] yeah [13:00] just wanted to cornify kde4libs bugs [13:00] and it aint working [13:00] * apachelogger depressed [13:02] :( [13:21] can someone quickly check if this is right : http://paste.kde.org/676850/ [13:26] shadeslayer: should you not follow the pattern of the lines above? [13:26] with / at the start and end [13:26] and ^ and $ [13:26] yeah.... [13:27] I was following the examples from Extra-Include [13:29] Good another guy passed in the meeting for membership too:) [13:30] so something like : /^kde-telepathy-.+$/ and /^libtelepathy-logger-qt4-.$/ [13:30] Tm_T, I got added to ~ubuntu-members now [13:30] congrats smartboyhw [13:31] shadeslayer, thanks:) [13:31] Tm_T, I want a Ubuntu member cloak [13:32] smartboyhw: repeat that in #ubuntu-irc so we have staff member involved (: [13:32] Tm_T, ok [13:34] * smartboyhw needs to set up a blog to get it on Planet Ubuntu [13:34] yes you do [13:38] Tm_T, thanks! [13:38] np [13:38] all I did was say "please" (: [13:53] Is plasma Active both tablet and mobile? Or, was the plasma-mobile soemthing else? [13:53] Darkwing: I think plasma-mobile was the old name of what became active [13:53] Because once the code drops tomorrow for ubuntu phone I'm working on two things with it... 1) Porting it to CDMA/4GLTE and 2) Getting active running on the phone and tablet. [13:54] Darkwing: great [13:54] Darkwing: plasma active is for tablets, confusingly the source package is called plasma-mobile but plasma-mobile is no more [13:55] So, there is no more mobile that rbelem was hacking on him n900? [13:55] Darkwing: right, that's been replaced by active for tablets [13:56] So, I'm guessing that a phone might be too small for active? [13:56] Darkwing: yeah the UI is a bit too detailed for a phone I'd think [13:56] Riddell: bugger. [13:56] Because piggybacking on what Ubuntu is doing would be awesome IMO. [13:58] Darkwing: that shouldn't stop even if it would make things difficult [13:58] it is plasma anyway, so you can make it fit I'm sure [13:59] Oh, I'm def going to work on it. [13:59] Thankfully I've already worked with Android Kernel [14:04] Darkwing, wow [14:06] smartboyhw: ?? [14:06] Darkwing, wow on you being able to work on Android kernel [14:06] smartboyhw: ahhh, Yeah, I've been working with kernel tweaks and Android ROMS for a while. [14:10] BOOOOOOO Steam on Linux doesn't work in 64bit [14:11] Darkwing: works for me, you might need to run it with STEAM_RUNTIME=0 [14:13] Darkwing, also working for me [14:14] hmmz.... The .deb wont install and I can't find it in 12.04 repositories [14:15] how does it fail? [14:15] you might need to have multiarch enabled. I didn't check [14:15] sudo dpkg -i /path/to/deb; sudo apt-get -f install [14:19] http://paste.kde.org/676886/ [14:19] I think I have to install all the -*86 repositories [14:21] errr.... what? [14:21] steam:i386 depends on xterm | gnome-terminal. [14:21] Yup. Figured that out. [14:21] that *should* be x-terminal-emulator [14:21] Yay, works now. Thanks guys [14:27] ooh [14:27] Riddell: rekonq + webgl works [14:27] shadeslayer: bling! [14:27] as well as spell check [14:27] :) [14:27] shadeslayer: what are you using to test? [14:28] the chrome webgl experiments http://www.chromeexperiments.com/webgl/ [14:28] http://alteredqualia.com/three/examples/webgl_cubes.html in particular [14:29] "Your browser does not appear to support WebGL. [14:29] Your browser does not appear to support WebGL. [14:29] yofel__: what games you play? [14:29] Internet Explorer fail [14:30] wot [14:30] IE? [14:30] * genii-around blinks [14:31] Riddell, why on earth would you use IE? [14:31] IE is for users to download Firefox or Google Chrome when they first install Windows [14:31] smartboyhw: got to check out the competition :) [14:31] IE: The number one browser to download another broswer. [14:31] Riddell, LOL [14:31] Darkwing, +1 [14:31] actually in europe it should ask you which browser you want as the first thing, but it doesn't, I hope somebody goes to jail [14:32] Riddell, LOL [14:32] heh [14:32] shadeslayer: actually I get "Your browser does not appear to support WebGL" in rekonq too :( [14:32] :O [14:33] oh [14:33] smartboyhw: what's your e-mail? [14:33] Riddell: you need to enable webgl [14:33] Riddell, why? [14:33] in the settings > webkit [14:33] * smartboyhw is wondering if Riddell wants to send spam [14:33] * smartboyhw activates his spam box against Riddell [14:33] bling! [14:34] * smartboyhw receives nothing from Riddell [14:34] Not even in spam [14:34] Riddell: I think we should let people in kubuntu-devel know about new webkit and ask to test with rekonq [14:35] shadeslayer: ok worth a shot [14:35] although what else is there to test for? [14:35] Riddell, of course -0ubuntu3 hasn't happened (referring to the email) [14:35] well [14:35] Riddell, that -0ubuntu2 went into -release... [14:35] smartboyhw: can you reply and say it'll be fixed shortly? [14:35] Riddell, I will [14:35] I tested reddit, news.ycombinator.com and gmail [14:35] works for me [14:37] yofel__ on your suggestion that ~ubuntu-members should also get kubuntu-membership maybe it is better for Kubuntu Council to setup a team that contains Ubuntu members and make it a sub-team of Kubuntu members:P [14:38] s/~ubuntu-members/~ubuntu-members who contribute to Kubuntu/ [14:38] smartboyhw meant: "yofel__ on your suggestion that ~ubuntu-members who contribute to Kubuntu should also get kubuntu-membership maybe it is better for Kubuntu Council to setup a team that contains Ubuntu members and make it a sub-team of Kubuntu members:P" [14:41] Riddell: http://paste.kde.org/676916/ [14:41] review plz [14:42] shadeslayer, that seemed good:) [14:42] shadeslayer, no it doesn;t [14:42] ? [14:42] what's wrong? [14:42] libtelepathy-logger-qt4 is missing a + in between -. and $ [14:42] shadeslayer, ^ [14:42] good point [14:43] note that I do not know what the hell this regex is doign [14:43] *doing [14:43] I simply looked at the stuff above and copied it [14:43] so someone has to explain it to me before I go ahead and commit [14:43] smartboyhw: fixed [14:43] Riddell, apachelogger ^ [14:43] shadeslayer, OK..... [14:45] Darkwing, pong [14:49] shadeslayer: also kde-config-telepathy-accounts and there's some telepathy plasma bits? [14:49] shadeslayer: / / denoted the start and end of the regex [14:49] ^ matches the start of a word, $ the end [14:50] . matches any character and + matches one of more of those any characters [14:51] Riddell, wow [14:52] I see [14:53] Riddell: as for the plasma bits, yeah, should add plasma-widget-telepathy-presence to that list [14:53] good evening everyone [14:55] apachelogger: done [14:55] hmm [14:56] Riddell: can source package names be added to supported? [15:03] shadeslayer: I think it needs binaries but the upload rights thing looks up the source package for that [15:03] murthy! [15:03] Riddell: hi [15:03] http://www.flickr.com/photos/jriddell/8492592646/in/photostream blogging proved too difficult for IE [15:03] I see [15:04] haha [15:04] Riddell: new laptop? [15:04] shadeslayer: yep [15:05] and really, IE crashes when I try to blog [15:05] every time [15:05] Riddell, just go and install Kubuntu 13.04 in it:P [15:05] does this sound right : * /^libktpcommoninternalsprivate.+$/ [15:05] shadeslayer, yep [15:06] but I don't think it's needed [15:06] it's already seeded [15:06] http://paste.kde.org/676940/ [15:06] done I think [15:06] shadeslayer, LOL [15:07] Riddell, so then when will be the next meeting for Kubuntu Council? [15:07] * smartboyhw was just asking [15:07] smartboyhw: whenever someone bothers to organise one [15:08] Riddell, LOL. Not me at least (Not even Kubuntu member) [15:09] * smartboyhw is testing installing calligra 1;2.6.1-0ubuntu3 (the really fixed version) to see if it goes wrong (in raring-proposed) === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [15:13] \o [15:13] second semester just started [15:13] Riddell, damn even -0ubuntu3 failed [15:13] smartboyhw: ug, how? [15:13] and I already missed one subject xD [15:13] dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/calligra-libs_1%3a2.6.1-0ubuntu3_amd64.deb (--unpack): [15:13] trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/libkdgantt.so.11.0.0', which is also in package calligraplan 1:2.6.1-0ubuntu3 [15:13] What the.... [15:13] * smartboyhw goes for immediate edit [15:14] How come we need -0ubuntu4 for that!?!?!?!? [15:20] * smartboyhw is in not happy status === smartboyhw changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: "Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | Raring Alpha 1 Released | Packaging TODO: http://notes.kde.org/kubuntu-ninjas | Upgrade QA : http://kubuntu-qa.dyndns.org/ [15:20] Without the congrats that is [15:22] To any Kubuntu packager: https://code.launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/kubuntu-packaging/calligra-2.6.1-0ubuntu4-fix/+merge/149595 [15:22] Riddell, ^ [15:23] BTW why is Alpha 1 still in the topic? [15:23] cos nobody removed it [15:23] This is the most difficult calligra maintenance ever [15:23] Riddell, I will just change 1 to 2 === smartboyhw changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: "Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | Raring Alpha 2 Released | Packaging TODO: http://notes.kde.org/kubuntu-ninjas | Upgrade QA : http://kubuntu-qa.dyndns.org/ [15:23] LOL [15:25] shadeslayer, eh? kubuntu-qa.dyndns.org has a ERROR [15:26] * Riddell write a grumpy blog http://blogs.kde.org/2013/02/20/morning-windows-8 [15:27] yofel__: unhandled ERROR [Errno 17] File exists: '/var/www/kubuntu-backports': [15:27] best QA bot ever [15:27] :DDDD [15:28] Riddell, like! [15:28] LOL [15:31] Clearly my first post after getting my WordPress blog set up for Planet Ubuntu is "Why is calligra packaging *THAT* difficult?" [15:32] compared to libreoffice I'm sure it's trivial [15:33] shadeslayer: do you still need ktp uploaded? [15:33] Riddell, please merge the -0ubuntu4 fix [15:34] and please upload:P [15:34] * smartboyhw expects installation error for -0ubuntu4 tmr [15:35] smartboyhw: what makes you think kdgantt is only used by plan? [15:35] (you may well be right) [15:35] Riddell, um at least the installation shows it crashes with plan..... [15:35] find . -name CMakeLists.txt | xargs grep kdgan suggests you're right [15:36] :) [15:38] * smartboyhw wonders will there be a -0ubuntu10 [15:38] That will be the world's most record-breaking time ever:P [15:38] it's not unknown [15:41] smartboyhw: uploaded! [15:42] Riddell, thx [15:43] Riddell: yes plz [15:43] shadeslayer: what's the PPA again? [15:43] Quintasan: that page is maintained by shadeslayer [15:44] Quintasan: smartboyhw yeah, blame python [15:44] shadeslayer, !? [15:44] shadeslayer: where's the code for that, only on the server? [15:44] Riddell: https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/nightly [15:44] yofel__: at the moment yes [15:44] ok [15:45] apachelogger suggested we juju [15:45] but the local setup refuses to work [15:45] also, with juju, it'll be like a 10-15 SLOC script :P === kubotu_ is now known as kubotu [15:46] or we could make a charm to do everything [15:47] smartboyhw: ubuntu10 isn't that much. debian-installer | 20101020ubuntu214 [15:47] (and no, that's not an invitation to go try and merge it) [15:49] Riddell: welcome to my world of win8 pain :D [15:51] davmor2: it's just so.. crap [15:51] these people have billions and they come up with this crap? [15:52] Riddell: please take care when uploading tp-logger-qt [15:52] it has +ppa1 in the versioning [15:52] Riddell: I have to test new windows u1 builds on it, I have never hated an os before, I may not of liked them but this is real deep hatred [15:52] my 2 collegues at work kind of like win8, but they pretty much only use the desktop and installs some app that acts as a start menu [15:53] *installed [15:53] davmor2: hah, I did try use Win8 for a week, but it's so inconsistent and random you spend more time trying to find how things work instead of doing what you're trying to do [15:53] I could have written a blog twice as long listing twice as many bits of fail, but it's not worth my time [15:54] ScottK, wow [15:55] * Tm_T is happy the last windows desktop in their work is gone now [15:56] acutally I did fine one thing that works better, plug in usb headphones and after 5 minutes the sound comes out of them, phonon/pulseaudio have yet to learn that trick [16:00] That's supposed to work. [16:00] Probably apachelogger drinking instead of coding at the root of it. [16:22] on rebooting this windows machine "Your PC will restart in 2 days to finish installing important updates." what the hell were they thinking? === bambee is now known as rperier [16:26] shadeslayer: uploaded! [16:31] Riddell: Nice windws 8 post [16:35] thx === highvolt1ge is now known as highvoltage === zz_jackyalcine is now known as jackyalcine [17:00] BBL [17:05] davmor2: mm I don't suppose you know how to boot into the firmware on a vaio? [17:05] Riddell: F2 is the norm, but failing that DEL or F12 are sometimes used [17:08] Riddell: any joy? [17:12] davmor2: nope :( [17:14] Riddell: what vaio is it [17:14] davmor2: oh weird [17:15] you don't press the power key to turn it on [17:15] you press the assist key to turn it on [17:15] weirdness [17:15] haha [17:15] knotify is segfaulting in 3.8 kernel? [17:15] I don't know if I should be pleased this firmware uses oxygen icons or affronted that they have illegally pirated our Oxygen icons [17:16] Riddell: just found http://www.overclock.net/t/1321845/sony-vaio-uefi-bios-windows-7-8 too :) [17:17] that has got to be the least intuitive UI I've used all day. and I've been using Windows 8 all day. [17:19] Riddell: how can F3 be more intuitive than 'assist' to get to BIOS? [17:20] sakang: it's not but the power key is what I'd expect as a first step to power it on [17:22] Riddell: unless it's not from a complete shutdown? meaning from a sleep/suspend mode? [17:22] sakang: and I doubt the linux version has any affect on knotify [17:23] Riddell: pics of the firmware? [17:23] I'll take one in a minute [17:28] Riddell: maybe, but the dump trace is coming from knotify only in 3.8, not in 3.7 nor 3.4. currently on gnome box with openbox and not seeing it [17:35] shadeslayer: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jriddell/8492966744/ [17:35] the Start Bios one is an oxygen icon [17:35] :D [17:38] same one used here by "configure" http://www.sony.co.uk/customise/vaio-t-series [17:38] Riddell: sound from what? [17:39] ScottK: thanks for backport [17:39] apachelogger: my headphones (I've moaned to you about it before and you said to moan to coling) [17:39] yeah [17:40] though depending on what app produces the sound it may not be coling's fault :P [17:41] that is to say.. for some reason on-the-fly rewiring is not working, which only impacts currently outputting stuff ... such as amarok playing a song... next song would be on new device [17:43] yofel_: bug 1130784 [17:43] bug 1130784 in python-qt4 (Ubuntu) "Support Qt5" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1130784 [18:15] apachelogger: funny thing, removign the tile makes the background solid grey [18:15] and looks better :P [18:15] Riddell: you're right the vaio thing is not exactly pretty [18:16] shadeslayer: shouldn't be solid grey with latest ks [18:16] ks? === yofel_ is now known as yofel [18:28] ok this is unexpected, 12.04.1 doesn't boot on the secure boot system but 12.04.2 does. even though we didn't add any secure boot stuff [18:28] maybe they SRU'd some things for the kernel and boot === rdieter_ is now known as rdieter [18:31] shadeslayer: kubuntu-settings [18:31] I see [18:32] * shadeslayer compiles qtwebkit with gstreamer 1.0 [18:35] i need that person with 13.04 installation, do you remember who was it here today ? [18:42] I think there's plenty of people with a 13.04 install here :P [18:44] that person ..heh [18:44] soee: moi [18:44] also #ubuntu+1 [18:46] apachelogger, yes but he said sometging about problems woth nvidia drivers i think [18:46] *shrug* [18:48] brb, have to do my excercises [18:49] soee, do you have an issue with nvidia graphics on 13.04 ? [18:50] BluesKaj, no i wanted to get more information because i will upgrade to 13.04 my home machine [18:50] *maybe [18:51] simply use nouveau [18:59] yeah , the default for nvidia after a normal install is nouveau , which works quite well [18:59] soee,^ [19:02] apachelogger, can you compere performence in games when using novaou and nvidia ? [19:37] apachelogger: No problem. [19:38] ScottK: when you say you made it work, do you mean the standard ff from the repos? [19:38] shadeslayer: Yes. [19:39] I get the what app do you want to use, I just click OK without picking one and it generally works. [19:39] hmm [19:39] Not ideal, but workable. [19:39] isn't that what us the problem? [19:39] mimetype detection [19:40] The thing is it's detecting it. [19:40] I don't have to tell it what to use, it knows. [19:40] It's just the U/I is crap because something's confused. [19:40] Maybe I misunderstand the problem. [19:42] I think it's more a preference issue. PDF (while it didn't have it built-in) was opened outside in okular, ff used evince by default === murthy is now known as murthy_ === jackyalcine is now known as zz_jackyalcine [20:05] As an example of it working well though, I click on a .deb in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+queue?queue_state=0&queue_text= and it opens in ark. [20:07] apachelogger: Your backport is all the way through New now. [20:15] ok seriously [20:15] why is plasma-mobile *still* stuck in -proposed [20:17] what do i have to do to upgrade to 13.04 a2 ? [20:17] from 12.10 [20:17] do-release-upgrade -d [20:20] thank you shadeslayer if i disconnect suddenly that its a sign something went wrong :) [20:21] it shouldn't [20:21] I checked the upgrade paths yesterday :P [20:21] works just fine [20:22] shadeslayer: Does it make kubuntu-active uninstallable perhaps? [20:23] idk how it would manage to do that [20:23] what is it: WARNING: Failed to read mirror file [20:23] soee: erm, no idea, just ignore that [20:23] ok [20:24] i like this info: system upgrade may take few hours :D [20:27] shadeslayer: I added a hint for plasma-mobile. Let's see if that moves it. [20:27] thx [20:28] If it doesn't migrate after the next publisher run, ping me and I'll get a bigger hammer. [20:28] ScottK: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html [20:28] says Valid candidate [20:28] Yes. [20:28] what exactly does that mean? [20:29] Then you have to look at http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_output.txt [20:29] right, and it says something about kubuntu-active but I don't understand how to read that [20:29] In this context Valid means it's ready, by itself, to migrate. The update_output.txt file shows other packages it affects. [20:33] I see [20:52] apachelogger: http://notes.kde.org/kubuntu-gstreamer-1-0-transition [20:52] just some notes off the top of my head [20:59] Riddell: you are awesome. Loved your blog post [21:10] is it important: [21:10] modprobe: ../tools/modprobe.c:550: print_action: Assertion `kmod_module_get_initstate(m) == KMOD_MODULE_BUILTIN' failed. [21:10] Aborted (core dumped) ? [21:10] uh yeah [21:10] the way to fix that [21:11] what was it [21:11] * shadeslayer can't remember [21:11] :D [21:11] okay in /etc/modprobe.d you have to grep for off [21:12] and then change that to blacklist? [21:12] ok ill check after upgrade is finished [21:12] soee: ATI card? [21:12] shadeslayer, Nvidia [21:12] okay [21:12] so it's mostly likely something from the nvidia conf file in /etc/modprobe.d [21:13] might be as im using latest driver [21:17] shadeslayer: i.e. s/off/blacklist/ ? http://paste.kde.org/677204 [21:22] like I said, I don't remember precisely, but it was either blacklist or off [21:22] and I believe it was off [21:22] because my histroy says I grepped for off [21:22] #ubuntu-kernel knows about the issue more [21:30] uhm [21:30] * No suitable module for running kernel found [21:30] [fail] [21:30] invoke-rc.d: initscript virtualbox, action "restart" failed. [21:30] invoke-rc.d: release upgrade in progress, error is not fatal [21:30] Konfigurowanie pakietu virtualbox-qt (4.1.22-dfsg-0ubuntu2) ... [21:44] shadeslayer, upgrade finished [21:44] everything works fine [21:44] awesome [21:45] ubuntu seems to intend to keep their word to keep raring usable so far [21:45] though the real trial will be post-feature-freeze [21:45] yeah [21:45] we need more QA IMHO [21:45] I'm discovering some kwin bugs right now [21:45] specifically with the gles binary [21:45] well, yeah mister obvious LP [21:45] :P [21:45] see kde bug 315540 [21:45] KDE bug 315540 in general "Weird rendering issues on Kubuntu Raring and Project Neon" [Normal,Confirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=315540 [21:46] fun [21:47] * yofel tries to reliably reproduce kde bug [21:47] kde bug 311751 [21:48] KDE bug 311751 in widget-systemtray "QML system tray crashes plasma-desktop on startup" [Crash,Resolved: upstream] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311751 [21:48] my mouse is being weird... [21:49] then there's kde bug 315528 from master :P [21:49] KDE bug 315528 in general "KWin crashes when switching windows" [Crash,Confirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=315528 [21:50] I thought marting hated bugs from git? :D [21:50] *martin [21:50] he does? idk [21:50] seems like a pretty serious one to me, and I could reliably reproduce [21:53] "Upstart user session available for testing" - why does this feel like systemd? [21:56] heh [21:56] upstart is playing catch up with systemd [21:58] sigh, what do I do, qtwebkit is compiling [21:59] found out what was crashing rekonq? [21:59] yofel: hm, maybe we can add a neon backend to kdesrc-build? [22:00] hah, it's flash [22:00] it's always flash [22:00] :P [22:00] oh, nvm then ^^ [22:00] shadeslayer: well, probably - what for? [22:01] yofel: well ... if you're on *buntu then you have an option to either go all neon or compile everything from source [22:01] for eg [22:01] you want to compile kde-workspace [22:01] you start kdesrc-build, and if you choose the neon-backend it'll download the tools and project-neon-kdelibs and stuff , clone kde-workspace and build using neon-cmake [22:01] well, it would probably work [22:02] plus you could use apt-get builddep to do most of the stuff [22:02] true [22:02] just a thought [22:08] gents, getting this in Raring: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1693551/ [22:08] (and ladies, sorry) [22:09] jussi: fixed in ubuntu4 [22:09] blame smartbowhw :P [22:09] and what yofel said [22:09] and me -.- [22:09] oh [22:09] blame smartboyhw and yofel :P [22:09] hehe === valorie is now known as Guest70700 [22:10] smartboyhw broke it, I fixed it without including the fix, smartboyhw fixed it partly, smartboyhw fixed it completely (that's ubuntu1-4) [22:10] gues I gotta wait for it to hit my mirror. [22:10] tomorrow then :) [22:10] lol === valorie_ is now known as valorie [22:18] ooooh, only 4 more tasks left for this week, only 2 of them being work related \o/ [22:18] and both of them related to gstreamer :D