[00:25] <ShalokShalom>  anyone knows a qt dock and/or a kde one with less kde libs req ?
[00:54] <Roey> hi
[00:54] <Roey> http://krita.org/item/131-free-transform-tool  <-- This looks neat.  When can we find it in PPA Backports for Krita?
[00:54] <Roey> Riddell:  heya
[01:01] <karunamaya> hi
[01:02] <skegeek> Is there a name for the outlined area containing application icons?
[01:05] <lewik_> My keyboard dont work full
[01:05] <lewik_> Shift+p not work
[01:05] <lewik_> Ctrl+F
[01:06] <lewik_> Shift+w
[01:06] <lewik_> help =)
[01:06] <Roey> skegeek:  tray
[01:07] <Roey> skegeek:  system tray
[01:07] <Roey> lewik_:  also try #ubuntu
[01:07] <Roey> I don't know though :(
[01:07] <lewik_> I tried
[01:09] <skegeek> I mean the tinted desktop area
[01:12] <Roey> the pager?
[01:12] <Roey> skegeek:  that?
[01:49] <crackerMx> hi
[01:51] <tankque> hola
[01:52] <crackerMx> hola tankque
[01:54] <crackerMx> hablas español?  do you speak english?  Sprechen Sie Deutsch?
[01:55] <Unit193> !es
[01:57] <tankque> join #ubuntu-es
[01:59] <crackerMx> great! in english is ok for me ...
[01:59] <crackerMx> thanks ubottu
[02:51] <pablo_> algum brasileiro no chan
[02:51] <pablo_> ?
[03:15] <pablo_> algum brasileiro nesse caraio
[04:03] <DarthFrog> !br  | pablo
[06:13] <Monchoman45> Hi, I've been trying to install kubuntu on my laptop from a CD I burned, but selecting any option from the grub menu causes a blank screen, and the CD drive stops after a short while. The MD5 of the .iso was correct and I ran the check utility on the CD on another computer and it found no errors
[06:29] <ovidiu-florin> hello world :D
[06:32] <tcatt> Hello, using kubuntu 12.10, all flash video just shows a black box, no controls, no video or audio plays... any suggestion please to fix?
[06:35] <ovidiu-florin> tcatt: have you installed the flash player?
[06:37] <tcatt> ovidiu-florin: yes
[06:37] <ovidiu-florin> tcatt: what web browser are you using?
[06:39] <tcatt> firefox, have tried rekonq also
[06:41] <tcatt> kekonq crashes when I try to view flash video
[06:43] <noaXess> good morning
[06:43] <noaXess> where can i really change the time when updatedb.mlocate should run?
[06:43] <noaXess> ti should run in the night. .not now, when i'm working..
[06:43] <noaXess> where is it defined?
[06:48] <noaXess> the strange thing is... i found /etc/cron.weekly/mlocate and this in /etc/crontab: 47 5    * * 7   root    test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || ( cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.weekly )
[06:49] <noaXess> but.. 47 5 * * 7, means.. taht weekly jobs should start at sunday, right?
[06:50] <noaXess> but why does it run now?
[06:52] <ovidiu-florin> tcatt: have you installed kubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[06:54] <tcatt> yes
[06:55] <tsimpson> noaXess: it only runs that if anacron isn't running, anacron doesn't run at on a particular day or time, but just makes sure a job in run in the time frame
[06:55] <noaXess> hm... tsimpson.. bbs.. customer phone ;)
[06:57] <ovidiu-florin> tcatt: check in Firefox tools -> Add-ons -> Plugins Do you have Shockwave Flash ?
[07:07] <tcatt> ovidiu-florin: so I got it working by purging, and then reinstalling flashplugin... but now firefox gives me a warning that I don't have the plugin, but then it starts playing 5 sec later
[07:11] <Monchoman45> Can anyone help with http://askubuntu.com/questions/258625/blank-screen-after-grub-when-booting-from-live-cd
[10:34] <ashwin_> #kde
[10:44] <goekhan> hello, this might be stupid but how can i rate the programs from inside the muon?
[10:45] <goekhan> i see others´ ratings but i can not rate it myself.
[10:48] <goekhan> if i can not rate it inside muon, where can i rate the app? kde-apps.org?
[11:01] <rosco_y> I am using a clock for a screensaver--how do I set my power management software so it doesn't quit displaying my screensavers after a time?
[11:17] <ovidiu-florin> in Kmail, on a POP3 account, messages that belong in a thread, all axcept the first one, no matter how many times I mark them as read, they return to the Unread state when I return to the folder. this does not happen on IMAP accounts
[11:17] <ovidiu-florin> any opinions on how to fix this?
[11:27] <jjeronimo> anyone here experianced with mobile broadband connections?
[11:28] <Tm_T> jjeronimo: I use it regularly, why asking?
[11:28] <jjeronimo> I can connect with my phone using bluetooth
[11:29] <jjeronimo> it says that the dun connection should be available in my network manager
[11:29] <jjeronimo> but it's not
[11:29] <jjeronimo> I used blueman
[11:30] <jjeronimo> because the default kde bluetooth manager doesnt have the dun option
[11:30] <jjeronimo> in ubuntu I was able to do it with bluetooth or usb
[11:30] <jjeronimo> but now nether work
[11:30] <jjeronimo> in kubuntu
[11:31] <jjeronimo> mobile broadband stays disabled when I connect using usb cable and there is no dail up bluetooth support :/
[11:32] <jjeronimo> by default
[11:34] <jjeronimo> DUN connection on Nokia N8-00 will now be available in Network Manager
[11:34] <jjeronimo> but I don't see it
[11:35] <jjeronimo> when I use blueman it connects fine
[11:35] <jjeronimo> I just can't see it in the network manager
[11:35] <jjeronimo> is there any other way to connect?
[11:49] <jjeronimo> Tm_T,  with you it just works?
[11:49] <Tm_T> jjeronimo: after I have paired devices I just go to bluetooth:/ and click to device's "dialup network"
[11:50] <ShalokShalom> hi there
[11:51] <ShalokShalom> You know, if there is a kde dock without needs plasma ?
[11:52] <Tm_T> ShalokShalom: hm?
[11:52] <jjeronimo> Tm_T, I don't have that option, only when I use blueman
[11:52] <ShalokShalom> Tm_T hello
[11:52] <Tm_T> jjeronimo: if you go to dolphin and browse bluetooth devices?
[11:53] <Tm_T> ShalokShalom: I'm unsure what you're trying to do, could you elaborate?
[11:53] <ShalokShalom> isearch 4 a qt dock or a kde dock without needs the plasma ?
[11:53] <Tm_T> ShalokShalom: you know plasma is more than just a dock?
[11:53] <ShalokShalom> Create a OS with pure kwin and razor qt ?
[11:53] <ShalokShalom> -.-
[11:53] <jjeronimo> Tm_T, that works fine yes
[11:54] <ShalokShalom> yeah
[11:54] <Tm_T> jjeronimo: but devices doesn't give dun there?
[11:54] <ShalokShalom> The kde docks are plasma widgets
[11:54] <Tm_T> ShalokShalom: I don't know any Qt dock
[11:55] <jjeronimo> Tm_T, I can browse my disk device using the default bluethooth applet shortcut from the system tray
[11:55] <jjeronimo> I can browse my phones disks I mean
[11:55] <Tm_T> jjeronimo: I don't mean browsing files in the devices
[11:56] <jjeronimo> Tm_T, how do you browse your bluetooth devices from dolphin?
[11:56] <Tm_T> jjeronimo: by going to "bluetooth:/"
[12:00] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:00] <jjeronimo> Tm_T, ok thx, almost there
[12:02] <ShalokShalom> ;)
[12:03] <jjeronimo> Tm_T, it just doesn't connect yet, keeps showing a dialog with connection info
[13:24] <ShalokShalom> I try to get the information, cuz of what reason kwin is so much faster on my hardware than a pure kde.
[13:36] <BluesKaj> ShalokShalom, kwin is part of kde
[13:37] <BluesKaj> pure kde also has kwin , kwin doesn'r exist by itself, ShalokShalom
[13:38] <ShalokShalom> And why it runs faster ^.^ ?
[13:51] <BluesKaj> ShalokShalom, you obviously don't understand my meaning , perhaps you should go to a chat in your native language and ask there
[13:52] <ShalokShalom> thx
[14:04] <jps> ping
[14:04] <BluesKaj> pong
[14:04] <noaXess> pong
[14:04] <noaXess> heh BluesKaj
[14:05] <noaXess> wasup?
[14:05] <FloodBotK1> noaXess: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:05] <BluesKaj> not much noaXess , you ?
[14:05] <noaXess> oh sorry.. mr.. don't wann make linebreaks a lot of times.. just greetings to BluesKaj
[14:05] <noaXess> supporting customers... angry about fu.. m$ win... grrrrrr
[14:06] <BluesKaj> FloodBotK1, is set up to run if you make 3 or more consecutive entries
[14:06] <BluesKaj> and it's so busy in here
[14:06] <BluesKaj> :)
[14:09] <noaXess> BluesKaj: so.. FloodBotKK1 is your boot to help ;)
[14:09] <BluesKaj> not mine , noaXess ...it just appears
[14:37] <Teo_> Hello!
[14:38] <BluesKaj> Teo_, hi
[14:39] <Teo_> Thanks, Kubuntu developers, for probably the best free/libre Operating system!
[14:39] <Teo_> Good bye!
[14:55] <murthy> BluesKaj: hi
[14:55] <BluesKaj> hi murthy
[14:57] <murthy> BluesKaj: during music playback in amarok, when a notifications sounds the music from amarok turns to chipmuk sound, how can this be prevented?
[14:58] <smartboyhw> Guys, if you have Kubuntu 13.04 Raring Ringtail and when you run `sudo apt-get upgrade` you ran into problems with calligra please leave it till some time later (approx. >5 hours) The fix is now building in the Ubuntu archive.
[14:58] <BluesKaj> murthy, sorry I don't know , I don't use amarok much ..switched to Cantata
[14:59] <murthy> smartboyhw: but didn't yofel_ fix that earlier?
[14:59] <smartboyhw> murthy, the problem is: He missed two lines
[14:59] <murthy> BluesKaj: is that nice?
[14:59] <smartboyhw> And so he didn't fix
[14:59] <BluesKaj> smartboyhw, I saw the calligra upgrade , but I haven't used it yet
[14:59] <murthy> smartboyhw: oh ,ok
[15:00] <murthy> smartboyhw: so cantata got through?
[15:00] <smartboyhw> The actual fix is here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calligra/1:2.6.1-0ubuntu3
[15:00] <smartboyhw> murthy, no. Licensing issues, ask shadeslayer for that
[15:00] <BluesKaj> murthy, one of devs at #kubuntu-devel , asked me to test Cantata and it's working quite well on 13.04
[15:00] <shadeslayer> hm?
[15:00]  * smartboyhw wonders aren't these supposed to be in #kubuntu-devel
[15:00] <murthy> smartboyhw: ok
[15:01] <murthy> BluesKaj: no i am how is the usablity
[15:01] <murthy> BluesKaj: * usability
[15:02] <BluesKaj> no crashes , I like it bettrer than amarok due it's unclutered appearance and stable link to my musuc files. murthy
[15:02] <murthy> BluesKaj: i am going to check it out now
[15:06] <murthy> BluesKaj: it is asking me to add myself to the 'users' group ,  should i do that?
[15:07] <BluesKaj> yes I beleive you must , murthy
[15:08] <murthy> BluesKaj: ok, i will be back after relogin
[15:15] <smartboyhw> Guys: Don't even upgrade to calligra 1:2.6.1-0ubuntu3 it fails too....
[15:15] <smartboyhw> Sorry for any inconvenience caused....
[15:16] <BluesKaj> well the update on 13.04 worked here , dunno if calligra itself works tho
[15:17] <BluesKaj> calligra won't launch here , anyway smartboyhw
[15:18] <smartboyhw> BluesKaj, we have library .install problems
[15:18] <smartboyhw> Fixing
[15:18] <BluesKaj> ok
[15:42] <gerlos> hello everyone!
[15:58] <lewik_> hi
[15:58] <lewik_> Anybody use simon? =)
[15:59] <lewik_> it's spttch recognizer
[15:59] <lewik_> speech
[15:59] <Malsasa> Hello, i have KDE and Unity in 12.04. You know Unity have global menu. When i login into KDE, my apps menubar was gone. I have tried Quassel, Dolphin, and Calligra Writer. Fortunately, Dolphin has chromium-like options button. Unfortunately, it is annoying. Is it related with Unity global menu? How to take back my menubar in KDE apps?
[16:00] <lewik_> Malsasa: It's a widget
[16:00] <lewik_> Malsasa: icon-only task manager
[16:00] <Malsasa> lewik_: widget? hmmm, so how to get my menu again in KDE? Unity seems to "stealed" it :)
[16:01] <lewik_> Malsasa: my eng bad =)  I try to say, that u can make menu like unity in kde
[16:02] <Malsasa> lewik_: ooh, my English even worst than you... i am not English native speaker...
[16:02] <Malsasa> lewik_: but i use KDE 4.9
[16:02] <Malsasa> lewik_: but i use KDE 4.8* sorry, wrong
[16:04] <lewik_> Malsasa: how I can know my KDE ver? =)
[16:05] <Malsasa> lewik_: umm, you can access any KDE app, Help > About. Surely your kde version will be appeared.
[16:05] <Malsasa> lewik_: thank you for your attentions...
[16:05] <Malsasa> :)
[16:06] <lewik_> Malsasa: 4.8.5
[16:06] <Malsasa> lewik_: do you use 12.04?
[16:06] <lewik_> Malsasa: Yes
[16:06] <Malsasa> lewik_: your version is same with mine
[16:06] <Malsasa> lewik_: here 12.04 too. I never update :)
[16:07] <lewik_> Malsasa: So u need unity-like bar in KDE?
[16:07] <Malsasa> lewik_: no no, just take back my normal menu in my KDE apps ;D
[16:09] <lewik_> Malsasa: ... Normal? =)  strange word =) Can u show image or smth
[16:10] <Malsasa> lewik_: yes normal menu, it is like Microsoft Office menubar or Libreoffice menubar we find in the top of window...
[16:10] <Malsasa> lewik_: unity-like menubar, globalmenu, is not normal. It is like Mac-style menu :D
[16:11] <lewik_> Malsasa: aha....  Menu at the top of screen for active window?
[16:12] <Malsasa> lewik_: exactly.
[16:15] <lewik_> Malsasa: Ш ыешдд ыуфксрштп
[16:15] <lewik_> Malsasa: I still searching
[16:15] <Malsasa> lewik_: wow, what is it? I dont undertand Russian
[16:15] <Malsasa> lewik_: thank you from Indonesia :D
[16:17] <Malsasa> lewik_: but please, don't work too hard for helping me... i am afraid make you discomfort... :)
[16:17] <Malsasa> lewik_: I appreciate all your effort for helping community
[16:18] <lewik_> Malsasa:  widget "indow Menubar"
[16:18] <lewik_> Malsasa: widget "window Menubar"
[16:18] <Malsasa> lewik_: umm, what should I do with it?
[16:18] <Malsasa> lewik_: uninstal?
[16:18] <lewik_> U create empty panel
[16:19] <lewik_> and set that widget on it
[16:20] <Malsasa> oooh
[16:20] <Malsasa> lewik_: then?
[16:21] <lewik_> So.... Widget will show max like menu...   It changed for focused window. No?
[16:21] <lewik_> Max = maC =)
[16:24] <Malsasa> lewik_: okay, i save your messages first. Thanks for your advice :)
[16:24] <Malsasa> lewik_: thank you from Indonesia. Maybe we will meet again.
[16:24] <mr0wl> does apt-cache ignore PPAs?
[16:25] <lewik_> Malsasa:  Ok
[16:25] <Malsasa> lewik_: if you live at Russia, how about meteor hits a few days ago there?
[16:26] <lewik_> Malsasa: ...  I live far away from it
[16:26] <Malsasa> lewik_: okay...
[16:26] <lewik_> Malsasa: broken glass was most problem
[16:26] <Malsasa> lewik_: broken glass?
[16:27] <lewik_> Malsasa:  ...  Broken windiws
[16:27] <lewik_> Malsasa: shockwave broke windows
[16:27] <Malsasa> lewik_: wow, it is caused by meteor?
[16:28] <lewik_> Malsasa: So glass damage peoples and there are cold, no windows - and cold in the room
[16:28] <lewik_> Malsasa: go provate chat
[16:28] <Malsasa> lewik_: oooh, now i understand
[16:39] <Windows> Hello!
[16:39] <Windows> Is this the german channel of kubuntu?
[16:40] <bazhang> !de
[16:40] <murthy> BluesKaj: i have installed cantata and mpd , cantata has connected to mpd and i have set the music library location. There is no music listed in cantata
[16:58] <BluesKaj> murthy, make sure the "configure cantata">output uses  MPD
[17:00] <BluesKaj> BBL
[17:40] <BluesKaj> murthy, cantata is ok , but I prefer clementine , it's an amarok derivative but less clunky and cleaner looking
[17:41] <murthy> BluesKaj: is the issue of sound turning to chipmunk after a popup notification present is clementine ?
[17:42] <murthy> BluesKaj: i checked in the output settings for cantata , i can't find any option to set mpd as an output
[17:42] <BluesKaj> murthy,  I've never encountered sound speed problems with clementine
[17:43] <murthy> BluesKaj: i will try clementine now
[17:43] <BluesKaj> you may need to upgrade your mpd version , iirc
[17:44] <murthy> BluesKaj: i installed the version which is in the repository
[17:44] <BluesKaj> cantata is more of a music data-bse server for a lan , not really setup just as a player
[17:45] <murthy> BluesKaj: there is only one output device in the output box, its called "My Alsa Device" in cantata
[17:45] <BluesKaj> I tested i8t , it worked , and now I'm going to remove it
[17:45] <murthy> BluesKaj: in that case i will remove it too, will try clementine
[17:45] <BluesKaj> then  you haven't startedthe mpd
[17:46] <murthy> BluesKaj: i can see the process mpd in the ksysguard, should i try to restart it?
[17:46] <BluesKaj> cantata isn't my 'cuppa tea"
[17:46] <murthy> BluesKaj: ok
[17:51] <murthy> murthy: test
[17:51] <murthy> BluesKaj: give me notification
[17:52] <murthy> !phonon | murthy
[17:53] <BluesKaj> murthy, ??
[17:53] <murthy> BluesKaj: one more in 5 sec
[17:55] <murthy> BluesKaj: use my nick so that i get a notification in my desktop, i am testing if i am getting the speed issue with the clementine.
[18:25] <wootis> Hello I have a problem with my F5GL laptop, i cant install i cant get the install to work. ive tried with both cd and usb and with no succes, i can choose to install and it starts to load even shows me the mouse pointer and then it goes black, and nothing happens. I tried to install ubuntu, xubuntu, lubuntu too but the same thing happens. any ideas?
[18:29] <ShalokShalom> wootis sec
[18:30] <ShalokShalom> live boot ?
[18:31] <ShalokShalom> Same with Mint ?
[18:34] <OerHeks> !nomodeset
[18:37] <ShalokShalom> wootis, ?
[18:37] <ShalokShalom> OerHeks !
[19:01] <wootis> sry the old lady had me run to the store :P..yes same with mint. ty i will check out that url.
[19:09] <ShalokShalom> nomodeset is available in boot screen ?
[19:09] <wootis> not that i can see.
[19:16] <BluesKaj> you have to add it in grub with the "e" key to edit , it goes in right after 'quiet splash "
[19:19] <wootis> got it. now its loading. so far so good.
[19:21] <wootis> it works! :). Ty all for the help.
[19:39] <idem> hello, I am having a problem witht he OpenVPN configuration
[19:39] <idem> I am not able to set the cipher
[19:40] <idem> on the cipher field I get the message "OpenVPN cipher lookup failed"
[19:40] <idem> is this a know issue?
[19:43] <idem> this is a image off the error I am getting http://i.imgur.com/MKXYPni.jpg
[19:55] <idem> is there a better channel for support?
[19:59] <rosco_y> idem: official kubuntu support:  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FAQ
[20:00] <rosco_y> (according to the msg posted when you open this forum)
[20:00] <rosco_y> what's the question Idem?  I just arrived....
[20:00] <rosco_y> I'm a newbie, but maybe I've had the same question....
[20:01] <rosco_y>  oic, VPN problems.  Sorry--out of my paygrade
[20:03] <rosco_y> not sure, but you might try #openvpn-as
[20:03] <rosco_y> not getting any real solid hits when I searched the channel list
[20:04] <rosco_y> there's also a #cloudvpn, and #dynvpn and #kvpnc
[20:04] <rosco_y> not sure if that helps or not....
[21:36] <Linuxephus> Greetings gentlemen, ladies. Question: Is there a way to automatically download & install Dev., Debug, and Doc. packages along with the packages being installed upon the system?
[21:37] <shadeslayer> Linuxephus: mostly the convention is to have foo-dbg for packages
[21:37] <shadeslayer> for eg. kdelibs5-dbg
[21:38] <shadeslayer> Linuxephus: but that may not always be true
[21:38] <shadeslayer> so you're going to have to narrow down the question a bit :)
[21:38] <Linuxephus> Recently switching back to Kubuntu 12.04LTS from LinuxMint after watching several fellow Linux'ers on Google Hangout who're Developers for KDE is why I'm asking.
[21:38] <shadeslayer> I see
[21:38] <shadeslayer> and you'd like to compile stuff?
[21:40] <Linuxephus> No. I'd like to somehow automatically be able to install the Dev. packages along with whatever package I'm installing thru Muon. Or is this a matter where I'd have to manually install the Dev. package that comes with the regular package?
[21:41] <Linuxephus> Example: Amarok, Amarok-debug, Amarok-Dev., etc.
[21:43] <Linuxephus> Oops. closed the wrong window.
[21:51] <Linuxephus> shadeslayer: So, is there a way I can do this with-out manually having to install each (example: Amarok, Amarok-dev.) the Dev. package that comes with each package?
[21:51] <shadeslayer> Linuxephus: well ... conventional debian packaging says split out dev, dbg and standard binaries
[21:51] <shadeslayer> so you can't install it automatically
[21:52] <shadeslayer> and you'll have to install the -dev and dbg separately
[21:52] <shadeslayer> amarok doesn't have -dev packages btw
[21:52] <Linuxephus> Unfortunately that means I'll to install each manually then doesn't it? I was hoping what you stated wasn't actually the case.
[21:52] <shadeslayer> yeah
[21:53] <Linuxephus> Well, you know what I meant with the example for other packaged that have that option.
[21:53] <shadeslayer> Linuxephus: though you could isntall Project Neon
[21:53] <Linuxephus> Enlighten me.
[21:53] <shadeslayer> it instals binaries and headers and has a separate -dbg package
[21:53] <shadeslayer> just 2 binaries for each source
[21:54] <shadeslayer> project-neon-foo and project-neon-foo-dbg
[21:54] <shadeslayer> installs KDE git into a separate dir, so you can run stable KDE and a unstable KDE at the same time
[21:54] <Linuxephus> I'm assuming that'll be installable thru Muon?
[21:54] <shadeslayer> sure
[21:54] <shadeslayer> you just need to add the ppa
[21:54] <shadeslayer> http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Using_Project_Neon_to_contribute_to_KDE
[21:55] <shadeslayer> though note that this is unstable KDE from git
[21:55] <shadeslayer> so expect crashes
[21:55] <shadeslayer> and report them :P
[21:55] <Linuxephus> Alright. My thanks. I'll peruse it and have a go at it.
[21:55] <shadeslayer> or if you're scared of having unstable packages
[21:55] <shadeslayer> we have kvm/vbox images
[21:56] <shadeslayer> http://kubuntu.s3.amazonaws.com/list.html?sort=lastmod&sortdir=desc
[21:56] <Linuxephus> I'll add the PPA and "roughneck" it so to speak. I do alot of custom installs on my own system. So "unstable" isn't something I'm too concerned about overly much.
[21:57] <shadeslayer> awesome :D
[21:57] <shadeslayer> we hang out in #project-neon if you need help
[21:57] <Linuxephus> Agreed. And even more so...Kubuntu is AAAWWWSSSOOOMMMEEE!
[21:57] <shadeslayer> great to hear that :D
[21:58] <Linuxephus> Duly noted mate. My thanks. The sooner I get this done, the sooner I'll have the leisure time accordingly.
[22:06] <k4tZz> I uh...forgot my su password..
[22:08] <shadeslayer> k4tZz: uhh ... you mean your login password?
[22:08] <shadeslayer> usually in ubuntu land everyone uses sudo -i which asks for your users password
[22:08] <k4tZz> No like
[22:08] <k4tZz> type in su
[22:08] <shadeslayer> right, use sudo?
[22:09] <shadeslayer> I have never used su
[22:09] <k4tZz> I wanna go into my root directory
[22:09] <k4tZz> sudo cd root/ doesn't work
[22:09] <jussi> k4tZz: sudo -i
[22:09] <jussi> just try it... :D
[22:10] <k4tZz> what the heck
[22:10] <k4tZz> that's not fair
[22:10] <shadeslayer> fair? what?
[22:10] <k4tZz> anyways I didn't see what I wanted to find... I forgot the password for one of my encrypted drives
[22:10] <k4tZz> and I'm seeing if I left myself hints
[22:23] <k4tZz> dude
[22:24] <k4tZz> I have a seperate home folder
[22:25] <k4tZz> I see there's an encrypted drive on /dev/sda5
[22:25] <k4tZz> I am wondering if that's the one I'm already using as my home folder
[22:25] <k4tZz> how can I verify that it is? so I can stop trying all my passwords to try n remember
[22:25] <k4tZz> like a doofus
[22:42] <DarthFrog> k4tZz:  You can tell what's mounted where by simply issuing the "mount" command with no parameters.
[22:44] <Linkmaster> I have my system set up in the dvorak layout, selected at install. This is all fine and dandy, and I set up through "system settings->input devices->etc." a QWERTY keyboard, so that should I want to play a game/etc. through wine, I can just shift with the "ctrl+alt+k" shortcut. However, I'm trying to play a game(Dwarf Fortress) through wine(since I like 40d, those of you that know of the game). The game doesnt accept the change in 
[23:40] <bunjee> what program burns mp3's?
[23:41] <bunjee> to play on cd player?