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Myrttiwhat fud are they spreading there now00:17
Myrttisigning in to download?00:18
IdleOnehuh where?00:18
Myrttiin u00:19
Myrttitright now00:19
Myrttiscroll tiny bit up if it's  already gone from view00:19
IdleOneoh, I think the software center makes you create an account to 'buy" steam, but it is free. not on unity so I haven't checked to make sure00:21
IdleOnework around is to download direct from valve website00:21
IdleOnejust another silly barrier to free software00:22
ubottuIn #ubuntu, tgunr said: ubottu: is there somewhere specific in ccdm for the cmd-key -> dashboard? I have look thru most all of them and search in ccdm is not helpful01:54
=== FlannelKing is now known as Flannel
FlannelAlright.  I'm giving up on support in #ubuntu after we now have eleventy billion kernel permutations to track.  Thanks Canonical!02:39
holsteinFlannel: you mean, getting support?02:55
Flannelholstein: No, giving.02:55
holsteinFlannel: its challenging in there from time to time...02:56
Flannelholstein: The new kernel upgrades are going to make it basically impossible to hunt down problems.  Because people are going to have to remember how they installed.02:56
PiciI just had a flashback to the gazillion Windows Vista Editions02:57
IdleOnekernel permutations?03:02
IdleOneesplain plez03:02
FlannelActually, I take that back.  It appears we will be able to figure it out.  But it's still not going to be fun explaining to people why their computer worked yesterday but doesn't today, because they have a new minor kernel version.03:02
FlannelIdleOne: In a (very crude nutshell), LTS will get* kernel updates to kernels in the next few releases.  (12.04 will have 12.10, 13.04, 13.10 kernels) (* With 12.04, it depends on when/how you installed)03:04
Flannelhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack03:05
IdleOneoh, this will be fun03:05
bazhang<tix> umad??04:07
bazhanguser Bubo claims his system just suddenly was all in Chinese04:07
bazhangexits #ubuntu , then a new round of questions, but about mouse speed.04:08
ubottutheadmin called the ops in #ubuntu (Somebody stop the offtopic madness please)07:25
bazhang<magn3ts> This channel got slow after we got chased off. We were the life of the party.07:41
bazhangnot understanding support channel award goes to...07:41
bazhang<agu10^> i'm an important member of the community08:10
bazhangvia PM08:11
Tm_Tand?08:16
phixEvening08:33
bazhanghi08:33
phixJust wondering if I can join #ubuntu and affiliate channels yet?08:34
bazhangno08:34
phixhmmmmm08:34
phixAny time frame?08:34
bazhangnope08:34
phixI see08:35
phixCould I get a second or third opionion?08:35
bazhangI probably am the 2nd or 3rd opinion08:35
bazhangyou asked twice a week or so ago08:36
phixI was banned nearly 3 months ago, surely that is enough time08:36
bazhangno change.08:36
phixnope, I dont ask twice week, once every 2 weeks perhaps08:36
bazhangphix, no. the ban stays.08:36
phixhmmmm08:37
Tm_T!appeals > phix08:37
ubottuphix, please see my private message08:37
phixoh Ididn't notice that08:37
phixI will look into it08:38
phixAlthough it would just be easier for the both of us if you just drop the ban08:38
Tm_Tphix: no08:38
phixok08:38
Tm_Tphix: thank you, anything else we can do for you today?08:39
phixumm yes, unrelated matter, do you have any recommondations on IRC bouncers or shell hosting?08:40
Tm_Tnone, sorry08:40
phixok, cyas08:40
Tm_Tbye (:08:40
bazhangin PM he pretends not to know the commands/advice he gave were false08:44
bazhangyet in other support channels, he is fully able to express himself08:44
tockitjhello14:18
tockitjDJones, i'm here14:18
tockitjwhy ban ?14:18
DJonesYour comment in #ubuntu is quite racist and goes against the Ubuntu code of conduct14:19
tockitjit is not racist14:19
tockitjjesus.. its just comment on design14:19
tockitjwhy would anyone feel offended by that14:19
Myrtticome on now14:19
tockitjfact is that ubuntu has lots of african motives.. you can't deny that14:19
Myrttiwe're not born yesterday14:20
DJones14:14 < tockitj> do you think that ubuntu is designed for black people ?14:20
tockitjwell - it does make you wonder..14:20
DJonesIn a few words, No its not, its designed for people14:20
tockitji think that people from africa certainly notice these things.. they might like this distro more than others14:21
tockitjsimply on grounds of design14:21
ikoniatockitj: ok - how is something designed for black people and for white people14:21
ikoniawhat's the difference14:21
tockitjso in a way.. they are willingly or not targeted by this visual design14:21
ikoniaactually I can't be bothered.14:22
ikoniasorry for intruding14:22
tockitjikonia, color schemes.. african symbols, names.. videos with motives from africa..14:22
ikoniatockitj: there are white people in arfica14:22
tockitjyes?14:22
ikoniaI suggest dealing with Myrtti or DJones as I'm just about to kick or ban you from here for having the guts to make this sort of tripe up14:23
tockitjwhy is it not allowed to talk about these things ?14:23
tockitjthere is no hate in this ?14:23
tockitji don't see anything wrong14:23
Myrttifirst of all14:24
tockitjand if you are color blind and can not see ethnic differences between ppl, than that is problem on its own right14:24
Myrttiit's not a subject for #ubuntu, which is a strictly support only channel14:24
tockitjbut, it should be free to discus ubuntu related themes14:24
tockitjlike visual design14:24
Myrttiand secondly, it has absolutely no meaning at all to Ubuntu.14:24
Myrttiyou're trying to see connections to things when there are none.14:25
tockitjno - i'm just opening a question - asking if anyone else has seen this14:25
Myrttiyou're welcome to your opinion that it should be free to discuss ubuntu related themes. However, it is not.14:25
tockitjand that is not *offending* to anyone14:25
Myrtti#ubuntu is not a visual design discussion forum.14:25
tockitjdo you kick other people discussing ubuntu choice of icons14:26
tockitjor default wallpapers ?14:26
Myrttiif they don't have a direct support question and insist on continuing on the subject, eventually yes.14:26
tockitji made two sentences there - how is that 'insisting on continuing on subject' ?14:27
Myrttithe reason you were kicked was because there was reasonable assumption that you were and are trolling. So far I've not seen anything that makes me think otherwise.14:28
tockitji think you are too sensitive in race related discussions - and this holds no hate or offense to anyone (nor would i do something like that ever)14:28
tockitjand pretending that everyone is the same is just dumb14:28
Myrttirace related discussions have no place in #ubuntu which is, as you've been told several times now, a support only channel.14:28
tockitjyou made reasonable assumption on trolling from two sentences ?14:28
tockitjMyrtti, it is ubuntu related question - please reread if you can not note this14:29
jpdstockitj: Years of experience.14:29
Myrttiyes, and all ubuntu related questions don't belong to #ubuntu14:29
tockitjhow many times in a sentence do i have to use word 'ubuntu' to make question 'ubuntu' related ?14:30
tockitjMyrtti, is this a place to foster open discussion ?14:30
Myrttilet me count how many times I've explained the topic of #ubuntu for you now14:30
MyrttiI've told you three times now.14:31
tockitjdrop the ban.. its meaningless.. i meant no offense14:31
Myrttiand since it seems like it's not sinking in, I deem this discussion pointless and you wasting our time.14:31
Myrttioh good.14:31
ChrissyI got spam on entering #ubuntu15:27
Chrissy<nir> http://chaturbate.com/affiliates/in/hr8m/V6Yer/?track=default15:27
Chrissyfrom user nir15:27
PiciChrissy: Thanks for the report, we'll take a look.15:27
ubottuawktion called the ops in #ubuntu (nir joinspam/possible malware link)15:31
MyrttiChrissy: thank you15:31
bazhang<Noorideen> bazhang, but i had hexchat on linux mint15:59
bazhanguh yeah15:59
k1l_he she was asking for ubuntu vs mint and mint support for some days now16:03
bazhangyep16:05
bazhangpretty much everyday now is some new MINTy fresh question16:05
bazhanglewik and lewik_ one in #u the other in #k both asking the same type questions16:09
bazhangwonder if its the same person16:09
k1l_<mrtharepist> k1l_: yeah. I checked the main irc channel page and there was no mention of those. but I should head over there.16:37
k1l_do wee need to add those new shiny steam, phone, tablet channels to that page?16:38
Piciprobably16:39
Pici!itsawiki16:39
ubottuIt's a wiki, *you* can edit it16:39
k1l_\o/16:39
k1l_popey as contact person? since he set both topics in that mobile channels16:42
PiciSounds good to me ;)16:43
k1l_(x) done16:48
KOCHroachwhy i am banned from Ubuntu? i didnt do anything wrong17:20
Myrttiyou changed your nickname after joining17:21
KOCHroachunban me, i could use some help from Ubuntu room17:23
Myrttileave the channel and rejoin17:23
bazhangandreas_ crossposting, and ignoring the answer given in both channels17:24
IdleOneKOCHroach: because you are using the webchat, you need to part #ubuntu and rejoin if you change your nick17:25
KOCHroachokie dokie then17:26
IdleOneerr, didn't say you had to quit17:27
IdleOneisn't ntfs-3g default in ubuntu?17:29
bazhangyeah17:29
IdleOneso, cagrijost is not running ubuntu if it isn't installed17:30
bazhangandreas_ was told about voyager not being supported a day or two prior as well17:31
ubottuIn ubottu, theadmin said: !biosreboot is <reply> If your machine freezes upon attempts to shutdown or reboot, try modifying /etc/default/grub. Open the file with "gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub", find the line that starts with GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT and add reboot=bios to the end. It should end up with something like GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash reboot=bios" if done proprely. Then, save the file, run "sudo update-grub" and reboot in any17:37
bazhangthats a large factoid17:38
theadminSeen that problem a lot recently, thought would be good to make it a factoid, tired of typing all that out (pretty much).17:38
theadminIf you see anyway to shorten it, please do so17:38
IdleOnetheadmin: perhaps create a wiki.ubuntu.com page and link to that17:38
Myrttiit's too long anyway17:39
IdleOneI would say adding that info to the !grub2 wiki would probably be best17:39
theadminIdleOne: That would make sense, will do.17:39
IdleOne:)17:39
IdleOnetheadmin: keep up the awesome work :)17:40
theadminHm. Not sure if I should add it to "troubleshooting" (which is about empty as of now), or miscel... however you spell that17:41
theadminOr just to the troubleshooting article...17:41
IdleOnewhichever you think is best17:41
theadminThing is it's not really a GRUB issue as such, but since it has to deal with GRUB, I guess it goes to the main article17:42
IdleOnethe issue isn't caused by grub but this grub edit fixes the issue17:43
theadminRight -- it's a kernel parameter, the issue is caused by the way kernel handles power management or something (I'm not sure of the details), adding that makes it call to the BIOS for help with handling that. Or something.17:44
theadminThere, done. Thanks IdleOne17:49
DJonesHad a couple of pm's from tockitj asking me to remove the ban set earlier, I've pointed them back here to discuss it18:34
ubottuIn #ubuntu-offtopic, rww said: !tablet-#ubuntu-offtopic is <reply> Take two capsules per day, with food. Side effects may include nausea, double vision, and death.20:26
genii-around@comment 53767 Ban was reviewed, no current reason to unban21:12
ubottuComment added.21:12

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