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xnoxwhy a hunting party?00:57
infinityxnox: Because he really wants a bug fixed, apparently.00:59
infinityxnox: 112859700:59
xnoxinfinity: well there is a branch attached to the bug already. It's just I happened to fix a few other things around there, while I was there and still testing will propose/merge tomorrow and we will do a ubiquity upload soon as we have a few fixes already.01:06
phillwxnox: I do hope you have a sense of humour, if not.. I apologise.02:30
phillwxnox: will these fixes be in the next re-spin?03:20
phillwaka auto cron buikd03:21
phillw*build03:21
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* cjwatson sorts out the image build failures10:25
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cjwatsonstgraber: OK, we'll start getting daily-checks mail about precise now too11:14
* cjwatson remembered to deploy11:14
cjwatsonslangasek,Riddell: are Kubuntu daily builds meant to still be commented out?11:18
cjwatson(and Kubuntu active)11:18
Riddellcjwatson: mm, no11:22
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dokohttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zipl-installer/0.0.22 doesn't have any build records. why?11:24
dokoahh, s390 only11:25
cjwatsonfeel free to remove that source; it won't be autosynced any mre11:25
cjwatson*more11:25
cjwatsonsince the autosyncer is smart about this now11:25
cjwatsonRiddell: OK, re-enabled, thanks11:25
cjwatsondoko: you'll probably need to explicitly remove from both raring and raring-proposed11:26
Riddellcjwatson: where should I start on getting nexus images for kubuntu-active made?11:27
Riddellpoke ogra?11:27
cjwatsonRiddell: talk to ogra, yeah11:27
dokocjwatson, so no need for black-listing?11:27
cjwatsondoko: no11:27
dokook11:27
cjwatsondoko: most of the time you don't need to blacklist things any more11:27
ogra_Riddell, is end of the week ok ?11:27
Riddellogra_: sure11:27
ogra_we have a dedicated builder for n7 images now, thanks to infinity, so we should now be able to do it11:27
Riddellogra_: dedicated builder is a pandaboard or there's a nexus 7 in a datacentre somewhere?11:29
ogra_a panda indeed11:29
ogra_we dont want to have to send people to the DC to plug in power all 8h :)11:29
ogra_(since you cant charge while an USB disk is attached)11:30
cjwatsondoko: for new sources, auto-sync avoids (a) anything that's blacklisted (b) anything already in NEW (c) anything not built on any architecture in the target distroseries (d) anything where an equal or higher version was already removed from the target (e) anything that was previously published in the target at a lower version (it mails me about these for manual resolution)11:30
cjwatsonthis was enough intelligence to let it run from cron11:30
apwogra_, there are power pads for charging on the side of the N7, not that i know which of the 4 is which11:36
apwinfinity, you have debian-installed blocked, is that for the .2 or something else11:37
ogra_apw, thats a lid switch, not power11:54
apwogra_, there are 4 pads on teh side for the dock, they let it charge and pipe out audio according to the dock spec11:55
ogra_oh, i thought it was onlt the lid stuff11:55
apwthe dock says it charges and does audio and the pictures show it sitting on the side there, nothing in the USB11:55
apwso i recon it has to have power in there to make any sense11:56
ogra_well, i know that the "jackets" use these connectors for lid open/close events11:56
ogra_anyway, happy to hear it can charge through it too11:57
ogra_cjwatson, the meta upload will fix the libO uninstallability ?12:00
* ogra_ was wondering about it 12:01
cjwatsonogra_: Yes12:22
ogra_great12:23
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didrockscjwatson: do you know if the hud it still publishing? I don't see it on the page, seb128 NEWed a little bit more than an hour ago15:52
cjwatsondidrocks: hmm, good question, it might have been caught by the librarian outage ...15:53
* cjwatson contemplates how to check15:53
didrockscjwatson: we'll be able to resync it from the ppa in case it's needed :)15:55
cjwatsondidrocks: Ah, it got rejected due to the librarian outage, and I can't resurrect rejected syncs.  Indeed, can you just sync it again?15:55
didrockscjwatson: sure sure, thanks for checking!15:56
cjwatsonIt must have landed in accepted briefly and then been booted out15:56
seb128didrocks, perfect timing :p15:56
didrocksseb128: didn't I tell you that sometimes, I feel like the black cat? :)15:56
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didrocksok, sounds go have created the metadata in the launchpad page now, thanks cjwatson. I'll promote it in main as soon as I can see the published version (the MIR is acked)16:03
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cjwatsonWhoops.  Sorry for Lubuntu image build failure, fixing17:51
cjwatsonbzr DTWT when resolving conflicts in an executable17:52
cjwatson... and again18:13
cjwatsonLooking happier now18:14
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Riddellkubuntu 12.04.2 works on a secure boot system even though we didn't add any secure boot bits to it, 12.04.1 fails, that's unexpected18:28
infinityRiddell: Really?  That's beyond unexpected, if it's an SB system that will only boot things signed with the MS key.18:33
xnoxRiddell: it may as well be a secure boot machine, maybe it's just UEFI machine where updated UEFI works and older one doesn't?18:35
xnoxare you sure secure boot is fully enabled and it doesn't e.g. fallback to normal uefi.18:36
Riddellxnox: it does say enabled in the firmware settings.  it also doesn't boot 12.04.1 with the message "secure boot failure"18:37
xnoxok. i rest my case, sir.18:37
xnoxRiddell: well, that mean kubuntu has secure boot now \o/18:38
Riddell12.04.1 http://www.flickr.com/photos/jriddell/849201855118:39
RiddellI'm not sure I trust a single data point on this issue18:39
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cjwatsonRiddell: You may find that the image itself boots but it (a) doesn't have a signed kernel so won't work on all systems (b) won't install in such a way as to make a bootable installed system18:46
cjwatsonI think there's a shim + signed GRUB there unconditionally18:46
cjwatsonBut only on the live image18:46
* cjwatson fixes another fairly arcane explosion due to the nusakan upgrade19:05
cjwatson(Slight lzcat interface change)19:06
plarscjwatson: I think we have a problem with the precise netboot images, they don't seem to be installing the 3.5 kernel.19:45
xnoxinfinity: ^19:46
infinityplars: Which ones?19:48
plarsinfinity: current ones at http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-updates/main/installer-amd64/20101020ubuntu136.9/images/netboot/19:49
plarsinfinity: unless I'm looking in the wrong place, that should be the latest right?19:49
infinityplars: Note the quantal-* directories.19:50
infinityplars: images/netboot will always be the precise kernel, images/quantal-netboot is the lts-q kernel.19:51
cjwatsonYep, what he said.19:51
plarsinfinity: ok, so that's intentional... hggdh we need to teach cobbler to cope with that somehow though19:51
hggdhah19:52
cjwatsonI did the same for the backports to lucid.19:56
cjwatsonSo if it's broken now it was probably broken then too ...19:56
infinityI doubt they cobbled much with lucid.19:56
plarscjwatson: yeah, it's just some automated jobs for kernel sru - not sure whether they existed that far back.19:59
plarswe were not seeing the 3.5 kernel come in with the new precise tests, but the iso seemed right, but we didn't notice that quantal directory20:00
cjwatsonplars: good sign that you noticed, anyway :)20:07
infinityplars: Check.  And for SRU testing, of course, you need to test both.20:10
infinityplars: So, good thing we provide two. ;)20:11
plarsinfinity: yes, that's the idea that we want to make sure kernel SRUs are testing for both20:19
nuclearbobit looks like the most recent daily live images have the initrd under casper/initrd instead of casper/initrd.lz  Is this intentional, and will the change be permanent?21:09
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cjwatsonnuclearbob: No, I'm already in the process of fixing that bug21:13
cjwatsonIt was a side-effect of upgrading nusakan to precise21:13
nuclearbobcjwatson: cool, thanks21:13
cjwatsonWas wondering whether I'd manage to fix it before somebody noticed ;-)21:14
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veeberscjwatson: would you happen to have a bug number for that?21:17
cjwatsonI didn't bother21:17
cjwatsonRespins are already in progress21:18
cjwatsonAnd only a handful of images (albeit including Ubuntu desktop) were affected21:18
veeberscjwatson: cool, thanks. How long does a respin take?21:21
cjwatsonMinutes21:23
veebersawesome21:23
cjwatsonIn this case, anyway, since I don't need to rebuild the live filesystem, just the ISO9660 container21:24
cjwatsonnuclearbob,veebers: 20130220.2 should be visible shortly; I've verified that its file list is back to normal21:29
nuclearbobcjwatson: awesome, thanks21:30
veeberscjwatson: noice, thanks21:30
cjwatson(For the record, the problem was that lzcat's command-line syntax got stricter from lucid to precise, confusing cdimage)21:30
nuclearbobthat's inconvenient21:31
xnox(well it used to be lzma but now it's xz that provides it ;-) )21:32
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cjwatsonYeah, that wasn't really the issue I think21:35
cjwatsonUsing -S '' was always a bit of a hack21:35
nuclearbobhmm, I think I'm using -S ''21:35
cjwatsonSo I wasn't desperately surprised to have to prod it21:35
cjwatsonlzcat: : Invalid filename suffix21:35
cjwatsonReally lzcat has a stupid interface and shouldn't require that at all, because it doesn't use the target filename gained by stripping the suffix21:37
cjwatsonSo (at least in raring) you can actually just pass any string as a suffix, AFAICS21:37
nuclearbobthat's handy21:38
cjwatsonAs it happens I used a chunk from the end of the filename in question, but I think that was overengineered21:38
* antarus hates releases21:54
antarusall the bugs I fixed ended up failing in release verification on weird edge cases :/21:55
slangasekwhy does https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+source/libreoffice/1:4.0.0~beta2-0ubuntu1 say it's published in quantal?23:20
cjwatson*blink*23:21
cjwatsonOh, I think that means libreoffice in general is published in quantal and raring23:22
cjwatsonDaft presentation23:22
cjwatsonHm, but https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+source/base-files/6.12ubuntu1 doesn't do that23:23
cjwatsonIt's from a join between SPR and SPPH, so maybe there are copies into a PPA that are confusing it?23:24
cjwatsonI don't know, very confused23:25
antarusI'm glad I'm not the only one that gets confused23:26
slangasekcjwatson: ok23:27
slangasekcjwatson: so I'm looking at this in the context of libreoffice-presenter-console, which you appear to have dispatched this morning23:29
stgrabercjwatson: https://launchpad.net/~guido-iodice/+archive/testing2/+sourcepub/2986741/+listing-archive-extra ?23:29
slangasekit's causing update-manager to display the dreaded 'partial upgrade' dialog and I'm not sure why23:29
stgrabercjwatson: basically someone copied the raring build straight to a quantal PPA, then removed it. Could that cause what we're seeing?23:30
cjwatsonstgraber: Good catch, thanks, that would do it23:31
cjwatsonslangasek: Yes, I did - is there still some open fallout from that?23:31
slangasekcjwatson: it's causing update-manager to display the dreaded 'partial upgrade' dialog and I'm not sure why23:31
stgrabercjwatson: google with site:launchpad.net is handy for that kind of search (launchpad's own search engine, not so much ;))23:31
cjwatsonslangasek: Curious, an apt-get dist-upgrade this morning was pretty clean for me23:32
cjwatsonI don't suppose it's marked for manual install or something?23:32
slangasekcjwatson: well, apt-get dist-upgrade is perfectly happy removing the package23:34
slangasekbut update-manager is more particular IIRC23:34
slangasekcjwatson: remind me how to check the current mark status?23:35
cjwatsonapt-mark showauto | grep23:36
cjwatsonsome day soon I suppose I'm going to have to actually understand how u-m works23:37
slangasekthe package is indeed marked manual23:38
slangasekwhich, actually, is the expected behavior since it's an ubuntu-desktop Recommends: (or was)23:38
cjwatsonIt might need to be quirked in u-m23:44
cjwatsonIIRC there's a list of packages that have been removed ...23:45
slangasekhmm yes23:45
cjwatsonBut I thought that was mainly for release upgraes23:45
cjwatson+d23:45
cjwatsonI don't know whether it comes into play for normal u-m runs23:45

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