/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/02/20/#ubuntu-us-mi.txt

jrwrengreg-g: portland is too big00:02
jrwrendon't go to portland. aa loves U00:02
greg-g:)00:02
greg-gI don't think portland is an option00:02
greg-gsomewhere we could buy land, like a decent amount00:02
jrwrenoh a farm! awesome.00:03
jrwrenyeah, farm land around AA is not cheap :(00:04
greg-gyeah, apparently MI farmland has been going up in the last few years :/00:05
greg-grick_h_: still an awesome user, right? mind sharing your config (again). I have an older one, just want to make sure I get the lastest rick_h_ version :)00:08
greg-gI'm going to use this new laptop with Ubuntu on it as my queue to switch over00:08
brouschMy friend bought a horse farm near that D00:10
jrwreni was hoping to see a dotfiles, but i don't. https://github.com/mitechie?tab=repositories00:11
slestaksup guys00:49
rick_h_droidgreg-g sure in a bit. Though it's probably the same. my awesome config is one I don't tweak much.00:51
rick_h_droidjrwren yea too much work making sure stuff is sanitized so no full dot files repo. though there is vim and some zshrc in there00:52
rick_h_droidslestak howdy00:52
slestaki asked over in #ubuntu, not getting any love.  did the service name for smaba change in upstart?00:53
slestaktrying to restart samba, and sudo service smbd restart cannot find smbd00:53
slestaki know samba is installed, smbtree gives me output00:53
rick_h_droidhmm tab complete and look00:54
rick_h_droidcan also look in the upstart dir. /etc/init? somewhere in there00:55
slestaklemme take a look, i thought upstart moved stuff out of init.d so i didnt trust that00:55
rick_h_droidnot init.d but init or something in there.00:56
slestakhrm, im sorry.  i did _not_ have it installed.  assumption is a terrible thing00:57
rick_h_droiddoh00:57
slestaki thought since i had an /etc/samba/smb.conf that i surely had samba installed00:58
jrwrenslestak: smbd and nmbd01:03
greg-grick_h_droid: gotcha, thanks, I'll just do some testing tomorrow/later this week (ramping up is *hard*) ;)01:05
rick_h_droidgreg-g yea but good time to do it01:05
* greg-g nods01:06
greg-gespecially since I can't stand Unity, and GNOME Shell isn't well supported :)01:06
snap-lEvening01:58
snap-lHaving fun editing an interview together01:58
slestak_hiya01:58
snap-lHello02:00
jrwren?02:00
slestak_i was just responding to snap-l's "evening"02:01
jrwrenwho has two thumbs and a no questions asked ubuntu iso that will completely wipe a server and put ubuntu on it just by booting the cd/usb?03:15
snap-lnice03:16
jrwrenentire install and first boot to login prompt in 3:3003:16
jrwrenthat minutes and seconds, not hours and minutes :)03:16
_stink_hah03:19
snap-lI thought it was bushels and hectares03:19
jrwrenits fast when its all SSD and a VM03:19
jrwrencould be stone/lb03:19
shakes808Good morning all12:23
rick_h_party12:25
snap-lhttp://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-michigan/2249/detail/13:32
rick_h_coolio13:33
rick_h_kind of cool Glass video put together: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=v1uyQZNg2vE13:34
snap-lIf anyone wants to schedule up a hangouot for the GJ, please feel free to add an event, or if you can't add an event, please let me know and I'll add it for you.13:34
snap-lhttp://www.reddit.com/r/fossworldproblems/comments/18ttyq/i_want_to_watch_porn_but_i_cant_get_alsa_to_only/13:54
snap-lhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Gl1_FdmJZ-M# <- Something to consider for your newfound front-end designs14:49
snap-lrick_h_: ^^14:50
Blazeixwait a second, this has nothing to do with zerg. how disappointing14:55
snap-lEven more disappointing is I think they're serious14:55
snap-lThe Oakland mirror is severely behind15:10
snap-lMy laptop was using that server. i just switched to the US server, and I have 625MB of files to download15:11
rick_h_snap-l: lol15:25
rick_h_man I can't finish that video15:26
snap-lhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Gl1_FdmJZ-M#15:31
snap-lBah,15:31
snap-lhttps://blogs.oracle.com/henrik/entry/oracle_jdk_7u15_and_6u41 and https://blogs.oracle.com/henrik/entry/java_6_eol_h_h15:31
snap-lApparently Java BSE (Broken Sandbox Edition) is the only supported version15:31
brouschAre you kidding me? 13 came out like 2 weeks ago and I never saw 1415:31
snap-lJava is fucked, m'kay?15:32
snap-lI don't know what they did to Java 7, but apparently the sandbox is now a colander.15:32
=== slestak_ is now known as slestak
snap-lGr, upgrade borked the OS16:08
snap-lUEFI == U Expect Failure Installing16:09
brouschbork bork bork16:11
jrwrenhow do you guys work at canonical?17:55
jrwrengetting 503's here and slow response: https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/raring/usb-creator/raring/files/head:/usbcreator/backends/17:55
brouschjrwren: They use the private portal, of course17:58
greg-gthey all have a local copy of LP running on their laptops17:59
greg-git's the hidden secret that LP *actually* federates18:00
rick_h_jrwren: heh, sometimes faster to bzr branch than to browse. loggerhead sucks18:01
snap-lloggerhead was great for showing branch differences on small code differences18:14
snap-lI couldn't fathom it actually doing large changes.18:14
rick_h_ok, everyone must go watch the daily show from yesterday. This spot on the russia dash cams is cracking me up18:18
rick_h_OMG that was just great18:18
jrwreni just wish browsing with loggerhead was as fast as github18:19
rick_h_*just* wish :P18:19
brouschI gotta say I'm a little disappointed that rick_h_ hasn't converted Canonical to git yet18:20
jrwren+118:20
rick_h_because I'm a loser, get over it18:20
jrwrenthat is one of the last words i'd use to describe you18:20
brouschMaybe if you spent less time working wood and more time pimping git, it would be done by now18:21
rick_h_yea, priorities...I suck :P18:21
snap-lThere are only so many rocks to push up the hill18:23
* snap-l will now call rick_h_ Sisyphus. ;)18:24
snap-lwithout the deceit bit18:25
rick_h_" He also killed travellers and guests" so who's coming over for my birthday? hah!18:26
snap-lheh18:26
snap-l"come to my woodshop"18:26
snap-l"... and over there is chippy"18:26
snap-l"chippy hates bad people"18:27
snap-l"he eats bad people"18:28
rick_h_I've been reading too much WoT lately. All I can think is that the Aiel would love this idea of a boulder that can never be pushed to the top.18:29
rick_h_and waldo's not here to appreciate it damn18:29
jrwreni'm adding an answer to this which is absolutely INSANE!  http://askubuntu.com/questions/21303/create-usb-installer-from-the-command-line19:23
jrwrenwhere WoT is Wheel of Time ?19:24
jrwrenwhose got two thumbs and just wrote usb-creator-cli in an hour?19:33
snap-lDidin't know you had two thumbs19:36
snap-ls/two thumbs/only two thumbs/19:36
jrwrenrick_h_: you know evan.da?19:38
jrwrenbzr blame says he writes old style classes :p19:38
jrwrenhttp://askubuntu.com/a/258954/1668   IM CRAZY!19:58
Blazeixin vim, does anybody know of a way that "4 Shift+V" in vim would visually select 16 lines?21:42
Blazeixi mean, it's not a valid command, normally, should just enter visual line mode21:42
Blazeixbut on this machine "<N> Shift+V" is selecting 4N lines21:43
Blazeixcan't figure out if there's some weird arcane vim setting i'm missing21:43
snap-lDamn machine keeps locking up for no reason.22:11
snap-lMoved my USB keyboard to PS/2 so homefully I can give it the vulcan nerve pinch to see if I can get it to tell me what the hell happened22:12
widoxBlazeix: that's weird - is it always 16 lines?22:23
widoxI just tried it, and any number goes the the EOF22:24
greg-gso, when's Ubuntu going to finally migrate to the better wiki engine? http://ryandlane.com/blog/2013/02/19/openstack-wiki-migration/23:24
greg-gjcastro, rick_h_ ^^^ ;)23:24
jcastrothe will is there23:38
jcastrothe time and resources, not so much23:38
greg-ggood the will is there, cuz man, moinmoin is a pain23:44
jcastroI know dude23:44
jcastroIt turns contributors away23:45
jcastrohowever23:45
jcastroAs we start to dogfood on OpenStack ...23:45
jcastromoving to MW with our awesome MW charm on production23:45
jcastrowould be an awesome win23:45
jcastroso I've just sent a mail to Robbie asking if I can investigate23:45
greg-gahh, nice23:46
jcastroany idea the state of moin->MW tools?23:47
greg-ghonest to god question, jcastro, juju for major scale sites (eg: 5th more visited in the world): inherently not a good idea, or not? I imagine there is so much custom stuff here at WMF that it wouldn't make sense in any real level deployment way, but, what do you think?23:47
greg-gjcastro: given Ryan Lane just migrated the OpenStack wiki to MW, I assume "usable"23:47
* greg-g is forcing himself to ask the dumb sounding questions23:48
jcastrogreg-g: we're redoing the charm based on the deployment recommendations from MWF23:49
jcastroso yeah, I do want to go there23:49
jcastroand I want to present this to MW at some point23:49
greg-gwhoa, really?23:49
jcastroyeah dude!23:49
jcastroWe're not making this tool for rick's blog, this is high end stuff yo23:50
greg-gso, uh... is this discussion happening somewhere I could follow along?23:50
jcastrojust not right now. :)23:50
jcastrono23:50
jcastroI haven't approached anyone yet23:50
* greg-g nods23:50
jcastrobecause the charm is not finished yet23:50
jcastrobut marco is working on it23:50
jcastrowe can do all sorts of shit with it though23:50
jcastrohttp://jujucharms.com/charms/precise/mediawiki23:50
jcastroslave db's, memcached, etc.23:51
jcastroit's all there23:51
jcastrowe just need to get it finished enough to be like "ok, now check it out and tell us what sucks"23:51
jcastroif I came to you too early it'd be like, "nice try castro, give me something real."23:51
greg-g:)23:51
greg-gyeah, so, did you see what my new role is?23:51
greg-ghttp://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2013-February/066672.html23:52
jcastroLOL23:52
jcastroso what you are saying is23:52
jcastroyou're the guy to talk to anyway23:52
greg-ghaha, not completely, but yeah, I'd love to be a noisy on the discussion23:53
jcastroyeah so tldr, the Go rewrite of juju is almost done, so give it maybe 6 months before seriously looking at it. Though the charm you can start to rip apart as soon as marco finishes it RSN.23:54
greg-gawesome23:54
jcastrowe're dogfooding all this stuff anyway, but I'm not quite yet comfortable telling people to play with it yet.23:54
jcastrobut afaik we have guys in Canonical with access to your openstack stuff anyway where they can test stuff23:54
jcastroso it's probably just a matter of getting the conversation going23:54
jcastrobut man, I'm going to ask Ryan for all the migration details at ODS23:55
jcastroI would love to moin -> MW/OpenStack/Juju23:55
jcastrogreg-g: are you coming to scale?23:56
greg-gno :(23:56
greg-gI probably won't be doing much travel initially23:56
greg-gshit... forgot to submit something... one sec...23:56
greg-g(re travel to a hackathon in Amsterdam)23:57
greg-gdone23:59
greg-gand time to go home :)23:59
* greg-g does the 8-4 shift, because of, you know, Rowan23:59
greg-gjcastro: but, there are WMF people going23:59

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