[05:17] Good morning! [05:18] Maaz: tell Kilos hi [05:18] inetpro: Sure, I'll tell Kilos on freenode [05:35] good morning inetpro and others [05:42] good morning all [05:42] hi magespawn [05:44] morning [05:45] hi Squirm [05:46] going away for a bit server reboot required [05:49] that was fast [05:51] nice hey [05:51] yeah [05:52] still have to do updates but that is already running [05:55] morning inetpro, Kilos, magespawn, Squirm [05:55] lo fly [05:55] hey superfly [05:56] things arent fair. i tried boot-repair on my kde a while back and it crashed it worse [05:56] yesterday i helped ian to try it with his kde that win7 crashed and it worked like a dream from livecd [05:57] oh murphy dont live by him [05:57] maybe it is not the kde or the bootrepair but the hardware that causes the problem [05:58] and Kilos you seem to be able to do things that nobody else has yet [05:58] yeah i cant think of anything else that could cause it [05:58] thats because i just blunder along hehe [05:59] gotta go out for a bit later all [05:59] go well [06:00] hows the family superfly ? and you? [06:01] fine [06:08] almost weekend [06:25] found a new tool. modem-manager-gui [06:25] can see messages on the 3g modem [06:26] and other stuff whew [06:30] and measure traffic and set traffic and time limits [06:30] ai! die engelse is slim man [06:31] and scan modems [06:59] hiya maiatoday Vince-0 ludo [07:00] Hi [07:01] Hi Kilos [07:01] morning maiatoday, Vince-0 [08:29] back, hey Kilos [08:30] looks like ludo is having the same prob as timkeller [08:30] inetpro: ^ [08:31] brb restarting this machine now [08:34] yeah bad news [08:34] the goose will kick him now now [08:34] joins and parts? haven't seen any of those in a while [08:35] must be a timeout function hey? [08:35] both of them are on mweb, so it might be something there [08:35] sunday and monday were bad with timkeller Tonberry [08:35] pages of join/parts [08:36] superfly: should we kick Ludo out for now? [08:38] seems like from the last quit he has not come back [08:38] no ther mweb users here? [08:39] other [08:39] i am on mweb adsl [08:39] your side is fine [08:39] so far [08:40] is there mweb 3g as well? [08:40] or mobile i should say [08:41] better to complain to mweb if they would just answer before getting kicked [08:41] not sure, i know they resell vodam, cellc .etc. [08:42] ai [08:42] if i get kicked i will cry [08:42] and call in the mafia hitmen [08:43] lol [08:43] if you get kicked there is not greeter here [08:43] then you guys gotta do it [08:46] did you look at modem-manager-gui magespawn it might help peeps whose ubuntu doesnt see 3g modem because it can scan for a modem too [08:46] maybe i should do a new install and look [08:47] hehe [08:48] Kilos too much work to greet all new peeps if you not doing it, so you will never be kicked [08:48] aw [08:48] is it in the software centre Kilos? [08:48] yeah [08:48] i went through everything in synaptic yesterday and saw it by chance [08:49] software centre sucks [08:49] synaptic better and faster [08:49] sudo aptitude install synaptic [08:51] found this http://www.ubuntugeek.com/modem-manager-gui.html and this https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/precise/modem-manager-gui/ [08:56] remember that will get on the first. gotta make 60m data go till then [08:56] its a nice little gui app that shows lots [09:08] inetpro, can you change the kick message to something like "Come back when you have sorted your problems out" [09:08] the join/part peeps dont see whats happening by them [09:08] hi leonmarincowitz [09:11] hi kilos [09:11] having a baby saps your time, missed the monthly meet [09:12] anything NB [09:12] you had a baby or your wife? [09:12] she did [09:12] congratulations [09:12] did you read the minutes? [09:13] thanks, not yet [09:13] you know where to find them otherwise i can get the link for you [09:14] http://is.gd/xBTRA9 [09:14] thanks [09:14] yw [09:16] i was slack only mailed it now [09:16] ai! [09:19] hi Lionthinker [09:19] Hey Kilos [09:20] hey vinnie [09:20] Kilos, yip, found nickname [09:20] hehe [09:20] I include an item about Ubuntu Team SA and those minutes in the discussion notes for G+ hangout tomorrow [09:20] cool Vince-0 [09:20] well get your lug one by one [09:22] is it just me or is Quantal just plan awful? [09:23] Kilos, I included the freenode chat client in the new lUG site - for launch tomorrow [09:23] links to this channel [09:23] well done Vince-0 [09:24] when we get to 50 peeps here i can retire [09:24] Vince-0, so you starting a new lug, where is it based? [09:24] Lionthinker, whats the probs [09:24] one gets used to unity [09:24] Kilos, continual errors, [09:24] I love unity since natty, but Quantal as a system just seems so unstable [09:25] oh no i dont get errors [09:25] but then I did update grub to burg, and some problems snuck in [09:25] mine is stable. main prob was not seeing 3g modem [09:25] then the whole thing went to the wall [09:25] why you did that [09:25] wanted the nice boot logos [09:25] do you have boot probs? [09:25] lol [09:26] well, a few weeks after burg came around [09:26] but after a new install, error's still come up [09:26] Lionthinker, Durban Linux User group revival - we reformed the old LEAD group a while back. Hopefully we can get the old domain names again [09:26] Vince-0, sounds good [09:27] love the term do-ocracy, which is what gnu-linux seems to be [09:27] That's exactly how we're doing it [09:27] Lionthinker, do you get the errors whn booting or when [09:28] now its on the desktop [09:28] fully updated, but I'm only staying of Quantal for Raring which looks great [09:30] ai i mixed quantal with precise. didnt fancy 12.10 too much [09:30] ading windows and things [09:30] Precise was great [09:30] missed it, but love web apps [09:30] yeah i sticking here for a while [09:30] 5 year support is lekker [09:31] will end up with no hassles at all [09:31] #jealous [09:32] you can still get it man. must be cds around still [09:59] Kilos, no problem i have cd's but its rather difficult to downgrade [10:00] hahaha [10:01] im even running maverick 10.10 on one pc [10:11] why? [10:13] because i have lots of stuff on that drive and at the moment its too much hassle to get it on this one [10:13] i liked maverick [10:14] gnome2 worked good [10:19] Banlam, bakuman lewe julle nog? [10:54] Kilos: he's stable now [10:54] ludo: did you fix your connection? [10:56] how did he fix it? [10:57] useful info to have for tim methinks [11:28] another one of the lurkers [11:45] lol [11:56] lurking crocodil [12:24] back again [12:25] is there an email expert in the house? [12:28] magespawn: not an expert but just state your question :) [12:49] magespawn: don't ask to ask just ask [12:51] Maaz: kick is kick #channel NICK :frequent joins and quits are annoying, please sort out your connectivity issues and then come back [12:51] inetpro: If you say so [12:52] Kilos: ^^ for next time [12:53] aw inetpro you so cute [12:53] ty boetie [12:53] shoulda added or ask here for help sorting the prob [12:54] * Kilos waits for ai! [12:55] but thats right, its not as if the were spamming purposefully [12:56] ludo ping [12:56] how did you fix yours? [13:05] dont forget they dont see the joins/quits [13:06] ahahahah the judge asked the cop in the pistorious case if he thought oscar would "go on the run" if granted bail [13:06] hahaha thats kinda funny [13:11] o/ howdy Symmetria, oom Kilos, inetpro, magespawn, charl_, Vince-0 [13:11] haai [13:12] lo nuvolari [13:13] hi nuvolari [13:14] kan miskien reen === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [14:03] char_ inetpro one of my customers here is getting her mail returned classified as spam everyone is saying it is not their fault etc [14:03] char_ inetpro one of my customers here is getting her mail returned classified as spam everyone is saying it is not their fault etc [14:04] here is a paste of one of the returns [14:04] http://slexy.org/view/s2dUIuiJOa [14:04] oops did that twice sorry [14:05] charl_: ^ [14:05] could not spell right the first time [14:15] magespawn, from different mailaddie [14:15] gmail yahoo etc [14:16] or only one [14:17] no all out going mail [14:17] i mean to all the different mail uppliers [14:17] suppliers [14:18] yes it does not matter who it is addressed to, it gets returned [14:19] wow whats in the mail? [14:19] not some .ece attachment there by mistake [14:19] exe [14:20] or any file marked .exe [14:20] nope and when i was there this morning i sent one to myself that went through bu the second one was returned [14:21] wow [14:21] if there is an attachement then it is hidden somehow [14:21] thats what i was thinking maybe [14:21] try get some from her on a stick and scan them [14:22] like a virus on the pc, suppose that is possible [14:23] read something somewhere that if you read some mail that had a certain virus on it would use your pc to forward the virus [14:24] ask her as well when it started [14:25] Monday [14:25] maybe onna certain day after reading incoming mails [14:25] and maybe after next reboot [14:25] did she get any mail that seemed useless [14:26] will need to find out [14:26] get her to run deep virus scans [14:26] and malwares and stuff [14:27] you guys know more about it [14:27] charl_, come on [14:27] outlook and or outlook express hey [14:29] outlook express [14:29] i personnaly would scan pc for all them funny things [14:30] get a good antivirus going [14:30] * Squirm stretches [14:30] works over [14:31] there is a fairly good one installed [14:31] come on Squirm add some input for magespawn [14:31] and malware tool magespawn [14:32] plug a linux laptop into their network and try sending mail with the same smtp server [14:32] magespawn: what's the issue? [14:32] Maaz, google best free antivirus [14:32] Kilos: "The Best Antivirus for 2013 | PCMag.com" http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2372364,00.asp :: "9 Best Free Antivirus Software Programs for Windows" http://freebies.about.com/od/computerfreebies/tp/best-free-antivirus.htm :: "Best Free Antivirus Software" http://www.techsupportalert.com/best-free-anti-virus-software.htm :: "Best free antivirus software - [14:32] TechSpot Forums" http://www.techspot.com/community/topics/best-free-antivirus-software.18… [14:32] customer keep getting mail returned [14:32] http://slexy.org/view/s2dUIuiJOa [14:34] hmm [14:35] by the topic it could be something construed as spam? [14:36] magespawn, the one you sent that got returned . what was in it? [14:36] them forwarded things are often spam [14:37] maybe, would that show in the return or not? [14:37] ? [14:37] indeed Kilos but this is all her mail not just the forwarded ones [14:38] ouch [14:39] one of her incomings on monday put a bug in the pc methinks [14:39] or saterday [14:42] Maaz, google my sent mails are being returned as spam?? [14:42] Kilos: "Someone is sending from my address - Gmail Help" http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=50200 :: "phplist forums • View topic - Why are my messages being marked as spam" http://forums.phplist.com/viewtopic.php?t=21772 :: "email - Spam is being sent using my domain, what can I do? - Stack ..." http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11683580 [14:42] /spam-is-being-sent-using-my-domain-what-can-i-do :: "Why is my Email Being Treated as Sp… [14:42] ouch magespawn you got your work cut out for you [14:43] but as tonberry352_ suggested, try send mail with a different pc [14:44] if it doesn't work, blame iafrica [14:44] uninstall outlook then run ccleaner and install outlook again [14:44] Maaz, google ccleaner for win7 [14:44] Kilos: "CCleaner - Download" http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download :: "CCleaner - CNET Download.com" http://download.cnet.com/CCleaner/3000-18512_4-10315544.html :: "ccleaner free download for Windows 7" http://en.softonic.com/s/ccleaner/windows-7 :: "Download CCleaner 3.27.1900 - Technical Details - FileHippo.com" [14:44] http://www.filehippo.com/download_ccleaner/tech/ :: "CCleaner 3.27.1900 - Windows 7 Download" http://www.windows7download.com/win7-ccl… [14:45] good tool for ms pcs that [14:45] doesn't remove malware though does it? [14:47] nope it cleans the registry and shortcuts with no where to go and stuff that shouldnt be on pc [14:48] malwarebytes is quite good though [14:48] but there are anti malware tools online [14:48] the fly gave tara one once that sorted her probs === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [14:48] the smtp server is smtp.vodacom.co.za [14:52] and the spam flag seems to come from the vodacom servers [14:52] tell her get a gmail account === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [15:03] or get her to fone vodacom and tell them to sort their server [15:05] but first scan for evils so your side is clear [15:05] hi i'm back [15:05] lo sakhi [15:05] reading... [15:11] it shouldn't be a virus because the message says very clearly that it is spam/bulk mail [15:11] yeah but mage sentr from there to him and one was reurned too [15:12] otherwise it should have said something about a virus. note i use _should_ and not _must_ because sometimes these things are configured badly [15:12] was yours the same stuff magespawn [15:12] the thing is this, i see the subject: Subject: Fw: Could not resist sending this one ... [15:12] does it return clean text mails as spam too [15:12] this sounds like one of these irritating pass-around mails with the images [15:12] yeah thats dicey [15:13] if it honestly happens with _all_ outgoing mail then contact vodacom and get them to give clarity [15:13] if it's just this mail then... big surprise [15:13] get a gmail/outlook account [15:16] no it is all outgoing mail [15:18] scan then get her to fone voda [15:21] not a bad idea Kilos [15:30] yup [15:30] this is a run-of-the-mill support issue for companies like them [15:30] just make sure the pc on your side is clear of all bugs [15:31] and clean the registry once youve scanned [15:31] stupid thing regisrties [15:32] win remember all kindsa junk there [15:32] that's always a problem with windows but the registry shouldn't matter when it comes to outgoing mail though [15:33] not a bad idea to scan for viruses though, even if it's with the built-in security essentials [15:33] if an incoming bug adds something there to affect outgoing mails it will [15:33] imo [15:33] i guess with microsoft software you never really know [15:34] eek internal stuff is the worst [15:34] avast and zonealarm [15:34] maybe others are better now === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [15:35] i dont have to worry about that i use Ubuntu [15:35] lo Trix[a]r_za [15:35] clam is open source but i don't know which one is the best [15:35] oh you get clam for win? [15:35] there's norton, mcafee, etc etc [15:36] http://www.clamwin.com/ [15:36] methinks avast is the most efficient without slowing pc the others do [15:36] oh my [15:37] thunk clam was for us only [15:38] there are web-based ones too, they use java or some activex control in IE though [15:38] were, i should say [15:52] aw shame [15:53] another one of these [15:53] what is it with mweb [15:55] e [15:55] lo nuvolari [16:08] hmm... [16:12] doesnt someone have his and tims email addies then ill mail them and tell them to sort it with mweb [16:15] ty for the help. see y'all later on my way home [16:17] k magespawn [16:17] magespawn: sorry for not being able to help earlier [16:18] * inetpro will try look at the case later [16:18] and now I will even have to find how to unban ludo again [16:19] ai! [16:20] dont you use the buttons [16:21] Kilos: that's what I used on quassel to kickban him [16:21] lol inetpro i don't think he did it on purpose, it's just his dsl that is terrible [16:21] isnt there an unban? [16:21] but i did laugh when i saw the kick message [16:23] yeah i thought you changed it inetpro [16:23] that didnt work either [16:24] back to irc classes for you [16:25] ok working [16:25] now he should be able to return again [16:25] lol [16:25] do tim too [16:26] then we try contact them [16:26] Kilos: tim was never banned [16:26] wow you people are harsh in here :) [16:26] hard core africans [16:26] charl_: no, those messages are just very very annoying [16:26] oh kicked then [16:26] that's true though [16:26] especially when you know the guys is not going to be here for days on end [16:27] Maaz: forget kick [16:27] inetpro: Okay [16:27] that didn't work [16:28] there is a bot in #nederland on ircnet that actually kicks you out if you idle for longer than 24 hours [16:28] there are some channels that don't take kindly to idling at all, and that's without the joins/quits [16:35] Kilos: I found his address and emailed him [16:36] oh damn! [16:36] "...not available at this email address anymore" [16:39] nuvolari: you don't perhaps have ludo's email address? [16:41] oh my i hope he is ok inetpro [16:42] he hasnt said anything for a long time now [16:44] ludo, ping [16:45] Vince-0, you also starting [16:45] sort mweb out [16:46] mweb has serious capacity constraints at the moment [16:47] I switched doing any serious traffic to other methods because internationally mweb was fubar [16:47] is that why guys are quit/join all the time [16:47] no idea [16:48] only mweb users though [16:48] oh shizl [16:48] its not as though irc uses much data [16:49] Symmetria, offer to fix their prob for them [16:49] they got lotsa bucks [16:50] I've also been restarting the router [16:50] oh ok [16:50] warn us so we dont kick you [16:50] hehe [16:51] ag no man, it should have only happened once [16:51] im teasing man [16:53] 2.6Mbits to Paris, 3.48 to Joburg [16:53] there have been SEACOM outages in Egypt this past week [16:53] Nothing open on Mweb network status [17:12] Kilos: you see he is back again [17:13] yeah [17:13] i tried to ping him but no answer [17:14] strange [17:18] i wonder if him and timkeller are in the same area [17:18] Vince-0, seems fine on mweb [17:19] and mage too [17:19] pong [17:19] I find the discussion notes rambling since its been over a month since last hangout [17:20] lol who you ponging Vince-0 [17:20] you [17:20] me? [17:20] im innocent [18:22] why not just do a temporary ban *.mweb.co.za ? although i guess then people won't know why they are banned [18:22] not such a good idea then [18:23] hey hey hey [18:27] oh sorry Vince-0 :) [18:27] not a good idea then :P [18:27] I've been stable [18:28] hold on i thought ludo was banned [18:28] oh i see, scrolling up, it's been removed [18:29] weird, why are only some people on mweb affected? [18:29] methinks its a certain area [18:29] cape maybe [18:30] superfly, do you know where ludo is? [18:30] i think tim is in capetown area [18:31] ah i see, yeah of course [18:32] if we can just get hold of one of them they can fone mweb and get it sorted [18:34] hmm... [18:35] so maybe I should just ban him? [18:35] temp kick not ban [18:36] no joy on his email addy yet inetpro ? [18:36] Kilos: if I just kick without a ban he comes back immediately [18:36] not sure what heis using [18:36] oh ok then [18:36]