[05:17] <inetpro> Good morning! 
[05:18] <inetpro> Maaz: tell Kilos hi
[05:18] <Maaz> inetpro: Sure, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[05:35] <Kilos> good morning inetpro and others
[05:42] <magespawn> good morning all
[05:42] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[05:44] <Squirm> morning
[05:45] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[05:46] <magespawn> going away for a bit server reboot required
[05:49] <Kilos> that was fast
[05:51] <magespawn> nice hey
[05:51] <Kilos> yeah
[05:52] <magespawn> still have to do updates but that is already running
[05:55] <superfly> morning inetpro, Kilos, magespawn, Squirm
[05:55] <Kilos> lo fly
[05:55] <magespawn> hey superfly
[05:56] <Kilos> things arent fair. i tried boot-repair on my kde a while back and it crashed it worse
[05:56] <Kilos> yesterday i helped ian to try it with his kde that win7 crashed and it worked like a dream from livecd
[05:57] <Kilos> oh murphy dont live by him
[05:57] <magespawn> maybe it is not the kde or the bootrepair but the hardware that causes the problem
[05:58] <magespawn> and Kilos you seem to be able to do things that nobody else has yet
[05:58] <Kilos> yeah i cant think of anything else that could cause it
[05:58] <Kilos> thats because i just blunder along hehe
[05:59] <magespawn> gotta go out for a bit later all
[05:59] <Kilos> go well
[06:00] <Kilos> hows the family superfly ? and you?
[06:01] <superfly> fine
[06:08] <Squirm> almost weekend
[06:25] <Kilos> found a new tool. modem-manager-gui
[06:25] <Kilos> can see messages on the 3g modem
[06:26] <Kilos> and other stuff whew
[06:30] <Kilos> and measure traffic and set traffic and time limits
[06:30] <Kilos> ai! die engelse is slim man
[06:31] <Kilos> and scan modems
[06:59] <Kilos> hiya maiatoday Vince-0 ludo
[07:00] <Vince-0> Hi
[07:01] <maiatoday> Hi Kilos
[07:01] <superfly> morning maiatoday, Vince-0
[08:29] <magespawn> back, hey Kilos
[08:30] <magespawn> looks like ludo is having the same prob as timkeller
[08:30] <magespawn> inetpro: ^
[08:31] <magespawn> brb restarting this machine now
[08:34] <Kilos> yeah bad news
[08:34] <Kilos> the goose will kick him now now
[08:34] <tonberry352_> joins and parts? haven't seen any of those in a while
[08:35] <Kilos> must be a timeout function hey?
[08:35] <magespawn> both of them are on mweb, so it might be something there
[08:35] <Kilos> sunday and monday were bad with timkeller Tonberry 
[08:35] <Kilos> pages of join/parts
[08:36] <inetpro> superfly: should we kick Ludo out for now?
[08:38] <magespawn> seems like from the last quit he has not come back
[08:38] <Kilos> no ther mweb users here?
[08:39] <Kilos> other
[08:39] <magespawn> i am on mweb adsl
[08:39] <Kilos> your side is fine
[08:39] <magespawn> so far
[08:40] <Kilos> is there mweb 3g as well?
[08:40] <Kilos> or mobile i should say
[08:41] <Kilos> better to complain to mweb if they would just answer before getting kicked
[08:41] <magespawn> not sure, i know they resell vodam, cellc .etc.
[08:42] <Kilos> ai
[08:42] <Kilos> if i get kicked i will cry
[08:42] <Kilos> and call in the mafia hitmen
[08:43] <magespawn> lol
[08:43] <magespawn> if you get kicked there is not greeter here
[08:43] <Kilos> then you guys gotta do it
[08:46] <Kilos> did you look at modem-manager-gui magespawn it might help peeps whose ubuntu doesnt see 3g modem because it can scan for a modem too
[08:46] <Kilos> maybe i should do a new install and look
[08:47] <Kilos> hehe
[08:48] <magespawn> Kilos too much work to greet all new peeps if you not doing it, so you will never be kicked
[08:48] <Kilos> aw
[08:48] <magespawn> is it in the software centre Kilos?
[08:48] <Kilos> yeah
[08:48] <Kilos> i went through everything in synaptic yesterday and saw it by chance
[08:49] <Kilos> software centre sucks
[08:49] <Kilos> synaptic better and faster
[08:49] <Kilos> sudo aptitude install synaptic
[08:51] <magespawn> found this http://www.ubuntugeek.com/modem-manager-gui.html and this https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/precise/modem-manager-gui/
[08:56] <Kilos> remember that will get on the first. gotta make 60m data go till then
[08:56] <Kilos> its a nice little gui app that shows lots
[09:08] <Kilos> inetpro, can you change the kick message to something like "Come back when you have sorted your problems out"
[09:08] <Kilos> the join/part peeps dont see whats happening by them
[09:08] <Kilos> hi leonmarincowitz 
[09:11] <leonmarincowitz> hi kilos
[09:11] <leonmarincowitz> having a baby saps your time, missed the monthly meet
[09:12] <leonmarincowitz> anything NB
[09:12] <Kilos> you had a baby or your wife?
[09:12] <leonmarincowitz> she did
[09:12] <Kilos> congratulations
[09:12] <Kilos> did you read the minutes?
[09:13] <leonmarincowitz> thanks, not yet
[09:13] <Kilos> you know where to find them otherwise i can get the link for you
[09:14] <Kilos> http://is.gd/xBTRA9
[09:14] <leonmarincowitz> thanks
[09:14] <Kilos> yw
[09:16] <Kilos> i was slack only mailed it now
[09:16] <Kilos> ai!
[09:19] <Kilos> hi Lionthinker 
[09:19] <Vince-0> Hey Kilos 
[09:20] <Kilos> hey vinnie
[09:20] <Lionthinker> Kilos,  yip, found nickname
[09:20] <Kilos> hehe
[09:20] <Vince-0> I include an item about Ubuntu Team SA and those minutes in the discussion notes for G+ hangout tomorrow
[09:20] <Kilos> cool Vince-0 
[09:20] <Kilos> well get your lug one by one
[09:22] <Lionthinker> is it just me or is Quantal just plan awful?
[09:23] <Vince-0> Kilos, I included the freenode chat client in the new lUG site - for launch tomorrow
[09:23] <Vince-0> links to this channel
[09:23] <Kilos> well done Vince-0 
[09:24] <Kilos> when we get to 50 peeps here i can retire
[09:24] <Lionthinker> Vince-0, so you starting a new lug, where is it based?
[09:24] <Kilos> Lionthinker, whats the probs
[09:24] <Kilos> one gets used to unity
[09:24] <Lionthinker> Kilos, continual errors, 
[09:24] <Lionthinker> I love unity since natty, but Quantal as a system just seems so unstable
[09:25] <Kilos> oh no i dont get errors
[09:25] <Lionthinker> but then I did update grub to burg, and some problems snuck in
[09:25] <Kilos> mine is stable. main prob was not seeing 3g modem
[09:25] <Lionthinker> then the whole thing went to the wall
[09:25] <Kilos> why you did that
[09:25] <Lionthinker> wanted the nice boot logos
[09:25] <Kilos> do you have boot probs?
[09:25] <Kilos> lol
[09:26] <Lionthinker> well, a few weeks after burg came around
[09:26] <Lionthinker> but after a new install, error's still come up
[09:26] <Vince-0> Lionthinker, Durban Linux User group revival - we reformed the old LEAD group a while back. Hopefully we can get the old domain names again
[09:26] <Lionthinker> Vince-0, sounds good
[09:27] <Lionthinker> love the term do-ocracy, which is what gnu-linux seems to be
[09:27] <Vince-0> That's exactly how we're doing it
[09:27] <Kilos> Lionthinker, do you get the errors whn booting or when
[09:28] <Lionthinker> now its on the desktop
[09:28] <Lionthinker> fully updated, but I'm only staying of Quantal for Raring which looks great
[09:30] <Kilos> ai i mixed quantal with precise. didnt fancy 12.10 too much
[09:30] <Kilos> ading windows and things
[09:30] <Lionthinker> Precise was great
[09:30] <Lionthinker> missed it, but love web apps 
[09:30] <Kilos> yeah i sticking here for a while
[09:30] <Kilos> 5 year support is lekker
[09:31] <Kilos> will end up with no hassles at all
[09:31] <Lionthinker> #jealous
[09:32] <Kilos> you can still get it man. must be cds around still
[09:59] <Lionthinker> Kilos, no problem i have cd's but its rather difficult to downgrade
[10:00] <Kilos> hahaha
[10:01] <Kilos> im even running maverick 10.10 on one pc
[10:11] <Lionthinker> why?
[10:13] <Kilos> because i have lots of stuff on that drive and at the moment its too much hassle to get it on this one
[10:13] <Kilos> i liked maverick
[10:14] <Kilos> gnome2 worked good
[10:19] <Kilos> Banlam, bakuman lewe julle nog?
[10:54] <inetpro> Kilos: he's stable now
[10:54] <inetpro> ludo: did you fix your connection?
[10:56] <Kilos> how did he fix it?
[10:57] <Kilos> useful info to have for tim methinks
[11:28] <magespawn> another one of the lurkers
[11:45] <Kilos> lol
[11:56] <Vince-0> lurking crocodil
[12:24] <magespawn>  back again
[12:25] <magespawn> is there an email expert in the house?
[12:28] <charl_> magespawn: not an expert but just state your question :)
[12:49] <inetpro> magespawn: don't ask to ask just ask
[12:51] <inetpro> Maaz: kick is <reply> kick #channel NICK :frequent joins and quits are annoying, please sort out your connectivity issues and then come back
[12:51] <Maaz> inetpro: If you say so
[12:52] <inetpro> Kilos: ^^ for next time
[12:53] <Kilos> aw inetpro you so cute
[12:53] <Kilos> ty boetie
[12:53] <Kilos> shoulda added or ask here for help sorting the prob
[12:54]  * Kilos waits for ai!
[12:55] <Kilos> but thats right, its not as if the were spamming purposefully
[12:56] <Kilos> ludo ping
[12:56] <Kilos> how did you fix yours?
[13:05] <Kilos> dont forget they dont see the joins/quits
[13:06] <Symmetria> ahahahah the judge asked the cop in the pistorious case if he thought oscar would "go on the run" if granted bail
[13:06] <Symmetria> hahaha thats kinda funny
[13:11] <nuvolari> o/ howdy Symmetria, oom Kilos, inetpro, magespawn, charl_, Vince-0 
[13:11] <Vince-0> haai
[13:12] <Kilos> lo nuvolari 
[13:13] <charl_> hi nuvolari 
[13:14] <Kilos> kan miskien reen
[14:03] <magespawn> char_ inetpro one of my customers here is getting her mail returned classified as spam everyone is saying it is not their fault etc 
[14:03] <magespawn> char_ inetpro one of my customers here is getting her mail returned classified as spam everyone is saying it is not their fault etc 
[14:04] <magespawn> here is a paste of one of the returns
[14:04] <magespawn> http://slexy.org/view/s2dUIuiJOa
[14:04] <magespawn> oops did that twice sorry
[14:05] <magespawn> charl_: ^
[14:05] <magespawn> could not spell right the first time
[14:15] <Kilos> magespawn, from different mailaddie
[14:15] <Kilos> gmail yahoo etc
[14:16] <Kilos> or only one
[14:17] <magespawn> no all out going mail
[14:17] <Kilos> i mean to all the different mail uppliers
[14:17] <Kilos> suppliers
[14:18] <magespawn> yes it does not matter who it is addressed to, it gets returned
[14:19] <Kilos> wow whats in  the mail?
[14:19] <Kilos> not some .ece attachment there by mistake
[14:19] <Kilos> exe
[14:20] <Kilos> or any file marked .exe
[14:20] <magespawn> nope and when i was there this morning i sent one to myself that went through bu the second one was returned
[14:21] <Kilos> wow
[14:21] <magespawn> if there is an attachement then it is hidden somehow
[14:21] <Kilos> thats what i was thinking maybe
[14:21] <Kilos> try get some from her on a stick and scan them
[14:22] <magespawn> like a virus on the pc, suppose that is possible
[14:23] <Kilos> read something somewhere that if you read some mail that had a certain virus on it would use your pc to forward the virus
[14:24] <Kilos> ask her as well when it started
[14:25] <magespawn> Monday
[14:25] <Kilos> maybe onna certain day after reading incoming mails
[14:25] <Kilos> and maybe after next reboot
[14:25] <Kilos> did she get any mail that seemed useless
[14:26] <magespawn> will need to find out
[14:26] <Kilos> get her to run deep virus scans
[14:26] <Kilos> and malwares and stuff
[14:27] <Kilos> you guys know more about it
[14:27] <Kilos> charl_, come on
[14:27] <Kilos> outlook and or outlook express hey
[14:29] <magespawn> outlook express
[14:29] <Kilos> i personnaly would scan pc for all them funny things
[14:30] <Kilos> get a good antivirus going
[14:30]  * Squirm stretches
[14:30] <Squirm> works over
[14:31] <magespawn> there is a fairly good one installed
[14:31] <Kilos> come on Squirm add some input for magespawn 
[14:31] <Kilos> and malware tool magespawn 
[14:32] <tonberry352_> plug a linux laptop into their network and try sending mail with the same smtp server
[14:32] <Squirm> magespawn: what's the issue?
[14:32] <Kilos> Maaz, google best free antivirus
[14:32] <Maaz> Kilos: "The Best Antivirus for 2013 | PCMag.com" http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2372364,00.asp :: "9 Best Free Antivirus Software Programs for Windows" http://freebies.about.com/od/computerfreebies/tp/best-free-antivirus.htm :: "Best Free Antivirus Software" http://www.techsupportalert.com/best-free-anti-virus-software.htm :: "Best free antivirus software -
[14:32] <Maaz> TechSpot Forums" http://www.techspot.com/community/topics/best-free-antivirus-software.18…
[14:32] <magespawn> customer keep getting mail returned 
[14:32] <magespawn> http://slexy.org/view/s2dUIuiJOa
[14:34] <Squirm> hmm
[14:35] <Squirm> by the topic it could be something construed as spam?
[14:36] <Kilos> magespawn, the one you sent that got returned . what was in  it?
[14:36] <Kilos> them forwarded things are often spam
[14:37] <magespawn> maybe, would that show in the return or not?
[14:37] <Kilos> ?
[14:37] <magespawn> indeed Kilos but this is all her mail not just the forwarded ones
[14:38] <Kilos> ouch
[14:39] <Kilos> one of her incomings on monday put a bug in the pc methinks
[14:39] <Kilos> or saterday
[14:42] <Kilos> Maaz, google my sent mails are being returned as spam??
[14:42] <Maaz> Kilos: "Someone is sending from my address - Gmail Help" http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=50200 :: "phplist forums • View topic - Why are my messages being marked as spam" http://forums.phplist.com/viewtopic.php?t=21772 :: "email - Spam is being sent using my domain, what can I do? - Stack ..." http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11683580
[14:42] <Maaz> /spam-is-being-sent-using-my-domain-what-can-i-do :: "Why is my Email Being Treated as Sp…
[14:42] <Kilos> ouch magespawn you got your work cut out for you
[14:43] <Squirm> but as tonberry352_ suggested, try send mail with a different pc
[14:44] <Squirm> if it doesn't work, blame iafrica
[14:44] <Kilos> uninstall outlook then run ccleaner and install outlook again
[14:44] <Kilos> Maaz, google ccleaner for win7
[14:44] <Maaz> Kilos: "CCleaner - Download" http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download :: "CCleaner - CNET Download.com" http://download.cnet.com/CCleaner/3000-18512_4-10315544.html :: "ccleaner free download for Windows 7" http://en.softonic.com/s/ccleaner/windows-7 :: "Download CCleaner 3.27.1900 - Technical Details - FileHippo.com"
[14:44] <Maaz> http://www.filehippo.com/download_ccleaner/tech/ :: "CCleaner 3.27.1900 - Windows 7 Download" http://www.windows7download.com/win7-ccl…
[14:45] <Kilos> good tool for ms pcs that
[14:45] <Squirm> doesn't remove malware though does it?
[14:47] <Kilos> nope it cleans the registry and shortcuts with no where to go and stuff that shouldnt be on pc
[14:48] <magespawn> malwarebytes is quite good though
[14:48] <Kilos> but there are anti malware tools online
[14:48] <Kilos> the fly gave tara one once that sorted her probs
[14:48] <magespawn> the smtp server is smtp.vodacom.co.za
[14:52] <magespawn> and the spam flag seems to come from the vodacom servers
[14:52] <Kilos> tell her get a gmail account
[15:03] <Kilos> or get her to fone vodacom and tell them to sort their server
[15:05] <Kilos> but first scan for evils so your side is clear
[15:05] <charl_> hi i'm back
[15:05] <Kilos> lo sakhi 
[15:05] <charl_> reading...
[15:11] <charl_> it shouldn't be a virus because the message says very clearly that it is spam/bulk mail
[15:11] <Kilos> yeah but mage sentr from there to him and one was reurned too
[15:12] <charl_> otherwise it should have said something about a virus. note i use _should_ and not _must_ because sometimes these things are configured badly
[15:12] <Kilos> was yours the same stuff magespawn 
[15:12] <charl_> the thing is this, i see the subject: Subject: Fw: Could not resist sending this one ...
[15:12] <Kilos> does it return clean text mails as spam too
[15:12] <charl_> this sounds like one of these irritating pass-around mails with the images
[15:12] <Kilos> yeah thats dicey
[15:13] <charl_> if it honestly happens with _all_ outgoing mail then contact vodacom and get them to give clarity
[15:13] <charl_> if it's just this mail then... big surprise
[15:13] <charl_> get a gmail/outlook account
[15:16] <magespawn> no it is all outgoing mail
[15:18] <Kilos> scan then get her to fone voda
[15:21] <magespawn> not a bad idea Kilos
[15:30] <charl_> yup
[15:30] <charl_> this is a run-of-the-mill support issue for companies like them
[15:30] <Kilos> just make sure the pc on your side is clear of all bugs
[15:31] <Kilos> and clean the registry once youve scanned
[15:31] <Kilos> stupid thing regisrties
[15:32] <Kilos> win remember all kindsa junk there
[15:32] <charl_> that's always a problem with windows but the registry shouldn't matter when it comes to outgoing mail though
[15:33] <charl_> not a bad idea to scan for viruses though, even if it's with the built-in security essentials
[15:33] <Kilos> if an incoming bug adds something there to affect outgoing mails it will
[15:33] <Kilos> imo
[15:33] <charl_> i guess with microsoft software you never really know
[15:34] <Kilos> eek internal stuff is the worst
[15:34] <Kilos> avast and zonealarm
[15:34] <Kilos> maybe others are better now 
[15:35] <Kilos> i dont have to worry about that i use Ubuntu
[15:35] <Kilos> lo Trix[a]r_za 
[15:35] <charl_> clam is open source but i don't know which one is the best
[15:35] <Kilos> oh you get clam for win?
[15:35] <charl_> there's norton, mcafee, etc etc
[15:36] <charl_> http://www.clamwin.com/
[15:36] <Kilos> methinks avast is the most efficient without slowing pc  the others do
[15:36] <Kilos> oh my
[15:37] <Kilos> thunk clam was for us only
[15:38] <charl_> there are web-based ones too, they use java or some activex control in IE though
[15:38] <charl_> were, i should say
[15:52] <Kilos> aw shame
[15:53] <charl_> another one of these
[15:53] <charl_> what is it with mweb
[15:55] <nuvolari> e
[15:55] <Kilos> lo nuvolari 
[16:08] <inetpro> hmm...
[16:12] <Kilos> doesnt someone have his and tims email addies then ill mail them and tell them to sort it with mweb
[16:15] <magespawn> ty for the help. see y'all later on my way home
[16:17] <Kilos> k magespawn 
[16:17] <inetpro> magespawn: sorry for not being able to help earlier
[16:18]  * inetpro will try look at the case later
[16:18] <inetpro> and now I will even have to find how to unban ludo again
[16:19] <Kilos> ai!
[16:20] <Kilos> dont you use the buttons
[16:21] <inetpro> Kilos: that's what I used on quassel to kickban him
[16:21] <charl_> lol inetpro i don't think he did it on purpose, it's just his dsl that is terrible
[16:21] <Kilos> isnt there an unban?
[16:21] <charl_> but i did laugh when i saw the kick message
[16:23] <Kilos> yeah i thought you changed it inetpro 
[16:23] <Kilos> that didnt work either
[16:24] <Kilos> back to irc classes for you
[16:25] <inetpro> ok working
[16:25] <inetpro> now he should be able to return again
[16:25] <Kilos> lol
[16:25] <Kilos> do tim too
[16:26] <Kilos> then we try contact them
[16:26] <inetpro> Kilos: tim was never banned
[16:26] <charl_> wow you people are harsh in here :)
[16:26] <charl_> hard core africans
[16:26] <inetpro> charl_: no, those messages are just very very annoying
[16:26] <Kilos> oh kicked then
[16:26] <charl_> that's true though
[16:26] <inetpro> especially when you know the guys is not going to be here for days on end
[16:27] <inetpro> Maaz: forget kick
[16:27] <Maaz> inetpro: Okay
[16:27] <inetpro> that didn't work
[16:28] <charl_> there is a bot in #nederland on ircnet that actually kicks you out if you idle for longer than 24 hours
[16:28] <charl_> there are some channels that don't take kindly to idling at all, and that's without the joins/quits
[16:35] <inetpro> Kilos: I found his address and emailed him
[16:36] <inetpro> oh damn!
[16:36] <inetpro> "...not available at this email address anymore"
[16:39] <inetpro> nuvolari: you don't perhaps have ludo's email address?
[16:41] <Kilos> oh my i hope he is ok inetpro 
[16:42] <Kilos> he hasnt said anything for a long time now
[16:44] <Kilos> ludo, ping
[16:45] <Kilos> Vince-0, you also starting
[16:45] <Kilos> sort mweb out
[16:46] <Symmetria> mweb has serious capacity constraints at the moment
[16:47] <Symmetria> I switched doing any serious traffic to other methods because internationally mweb was fubar
[16:47] <Kilos> is that why guys are quit/join all the time
[16:47] <Symmetria> no idea
[16:48] <Kilos> only mweb users though
[16:48] <Vince-0> oh shizl
[16:48] <Kilos> its not as though irc uses much data
[16:49] <Kilos> Symmetria, offer to fix their prob for them
[16:49] <Kilos> they got lotsa bucks
[16:50] <Vince-0> I've also been restarting the router
[16:50] <Kilos> oh ok
[16:50] <Kilos> warn us so we dont kick you
[16:50] <Kilos> hehe
[16:51] <Vince-0> ag no man, it should have only happened once
[16:51] <Kilos> im teasing man
[16:53] <Vince-0> 2.6Mbits to Paris, 3.48 to Joburg 
[16:53] <Vince-0> there have been SEACOM outages in Egypt this past week
[16:53] <Vince-0> Nothing open on Mweb network status
[17:12] <inetpro> Kilos: you see he is back again
[17:13] <Kilos> yeah
[17:13] <Kilos> i tried to ping him but no answer
[17:14] <Kilos> strange
[17:18] <Kilos> i wonder if him and timkeller are in the same area
[17:18] <Kilos> Vince-0, seems fine on mweb
[17:19] <Kilos> and mage too
[17:19] <Vince-0> pong
[17:19] <Vince-0> I find the discussion notes rambling since its been over a month since last hangout
[17:20] <Kilos> lol who you ponging Vince-0 
[17:20] <Vince-0> you
[17:20] <Kilos> me?
[17:20] <Kilos> im innocent
[18:22] <charl_> why not just do a temporary ban *.mweb.co.za ? although i guess then people won't know why they are banned
[18:22] <charl_> not such a good idea then
[18:23] <Vince-0> hey hey hey
[18:27] <charl_> oh sorry Vince-0 :)
[18:27] <charl_> not a good idea then :P
[18:27] <Vince-0> I've been stable
[18:28] <charl_> hold on i thought ludo was banned
[18:28] <charl_> oh i see, scrolling up, it's been removed
[18:29] <charl_> weird, why are only some people on mweb affected?
[18:29] <Kilos> methinks its a certain area
[18:29] <Kilos> cape maybe
[18:30] <Kilos> superfly, do you know where ludo is?
[18:30] <Kilos> i think tim is in capetown area
[18:31] <charl_> ah i see, yeah of course
[18:32] <Kilos> if we can just get hold of one of them they can fone mweb and get it sorted
[18:34] <inetpro> hmm...
[18:35] <inetpro> so maybe I should just ban him?
[18:35] <Kilos> temp kick not ban
[18:36] <Kilos> no joy on his email addy yet inetpro ?
[18:36] <inetpro> Kilos: if I just kick without a ban he comes back immediately
[18:36] <inetpro> not sure what heis using
[18:36] <Kilos> oh ok then 
[18:36] <Kilos> well we can keep trying to mail him
[18:37] <Kilos> does anyone know if timkeller is tim@cybersmart or is that another one
[18:39] <Kilos> ah you good with sites, cant you see them in mailing list
[18:39] <Kilos> or is that the fly
[18:40] <inetpro> Kilos: timkeller will be back if he wants to be back
[18:40] <inetpro> nothing stopping him from connecting
[18:40] <Kilos> oh doesnt the ban stop them?
[18:40] <inetpro> Kilos: he is not banned!
[18:41] <inetpro> ludo is banned
[18:41] <inetpro> now
[18:41] <Kilos> oh he was kicked
[18:41] <Kilos> sjoe
[18:42] <Kilos> its only them two so they must be in the same area and mweb there is sick
[18:43] <Vince-0> I blame Telkom
[18:43] <Kilos> oh ya
[18:43] <inetpro> Kilos: I don't think there's a relationship
[18:43] <Kilos> but not loud hey im on 8ta
[18:44] <Kilos> then why dont mage and Vince-0 also quit/join
[18:44] <inetpro> Kilos: oh don't go ther
[18:44] <Vince-0> all on the same exchange?
[18:44] <inetpro> many things can contribute to an unstable network
[18:44] <Kilos> ok i relax
[18:50] <Kilos> hi hubx 
[18:50] <Kilos> long time no see
[18:56] <Kilos> aw our op gone
[18:56] <Kilos> sulking again
[18:56] <inetpro> ai!
[18:56] <Kilos> lol
[18:56] <Kilos> jou beurt is jou beurt
[18:57] <inetpro> Kilos: he doesn't want to be famous for being an op
[18:57] <Kilos> ah
[18:57] <Kilos> chicken
[18:57] <inetpro> it's a tough job that
[18:58] <Kilos> youre a tough guy
[18:58] <Kilos> not a tough job here , only good peeps attend
[18:59] <Kilos> ok ill retire for the night
[18:59] <Kilos> sleep tight all of you
[19:00] <Vince-0> #ubuntu-on-air is live right now
[19:00] <Vince-0> ok see ya Kilos 
[19:00] <Vince-0> http://ubuntuonair.com/
[19:30] <magespawn> evening all
[19:31] <smile4ever> bye :)
[19:52] <nuvolari> inetpro: ping
[19:52] <inetpro> ehlo nuvolari
[19:52] <nuvolari> think I have it... just need to locate it first 
[19:53] <inetpro> oops.. pong*
[19:53] <inetpro> :-)
[19:55] <inetpro> nuvolari: thanks, but that address is just bouncing back
[19:56] <inetpro> I tweeted him and asked that he send me his email address
[19:57] <nuvolari> ok cool
[19:58] <nuvolari> mebbe he doesn't want to be disturbed :P
[20:05] <inetpro> hy kom en gaan die hele tyd
[20:05] <inetpro> baie quits en joins
[20:06] <inetpro> maar sê nooit 'n woord nie en antwoord nie op pings nie
[20:06] <inetpro> nuvolari: ^^
[20:07] <inetpro> nuvolari: ek het hom tydelik verban
[20:08] <nuvolari> ah
[20:08] <inetpro> nuvolari: people are complaining about to many joins and parts 
[20:08] <nuvolari> yeah, it is annoying :P
[20:08] <nuvolari> when I'm around to witness them
[20:09] <inetpro> obviously we can not blame him for his bad network
[20:09] <inetpro> and nobody is upset with him
[20:10] <inetpro> we're just trying to keep things clean here
[20:15] <Vince-0> I'm clean
[20:27] <nuvolari> bbiab
[20:27] <magespawn> other avenues of communication, if used, would help
[20:28] <magespawn> and on that i am off to bed, good night all
[20:33] <nuvolari> night magespawn 
[20:36] <superfly> Maaz: tell Kilos no
[20:36] <Maaz> superfly: Sure, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[20:46] <ludo> Yello
[20:46] <ludo> Nag
[20:46] <inetpro> wb ludo
[20:46] <nuvolari> he's alive! :D
[20:46] <ludo> thanks, het ons nog die bot wat msg los?
[20:47] <ludo> ek wil vir kilo's iets los
[20:47] <nuvolari> ludo: jip, Maaz 
[20:47] <nuvolari> Maaz: tell ludo hi
[20:47] <Maaz> nuvolari: Okay, I'll tell Ludo on freenode
[20:47] <inetpro> ludo: sorry for being so harsh with the ban, but as mentioned those quits and joins were really annoying
[20:47] <inetpro> not just for me
[20:48] <ludo> maaz tell Kilos Sorry I didn't respond to your pings I was AFK.
[20:48] <Maaz> ludo: Righto, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[20:48] <Maaz> ludo: By the way, nuvolari on freenode told me "tell ludo hi" 48 seconds ago
[20:48] <Vince-0> peace out!
[20:48] <nuvolari> night
[20:48] <nuvolari> I lost the race too
[20:48] <nuvolari> night everyone
[20:48] <inetpro> gnight nuvolari
[20:48] <ludo> inetpro, no problem. Mailing me and explaining why I was a bad irc'er made sense.
[20:49] <ludo> If it happens again just ban me and I will come beg for forgiveness, and then send mweb a harsh email about their service etc.  
[20:50] <ludo> Btw, when can I get my Ubuntu Phone and Tablet!
[20:50] <inetpro> just get yourself a nexus 7
[20:50] <inetpro> then install the os
[20:50] <ludo> oh and when well dell make the ubuntu developer notebook available in rsa!
[20:51] <inetpro> eh
[20:51] <ludo> I still have a year of my contract left, and seeing it is coming in the 4th quarter of this year I will wait.
[20:51] <inetpro> one day
[20:54] <ludo> John Lennon - Imagine
[20:54] <ludo> gah your "one day" reminded me of the song.
[20:55] <inetpro> haha
[20:55] <inetpro> I have hope 
[20:56] <inetpro> while at the same time I don't have a problem with installing Ubuntu on available hardware in the country
[20:56] <inetpro> including Dell laptops
[20:57] <inetpro> those days of many hours of troubleshooting are long gone
[20:58] <ludo> inetpro, I got my fingers burned and decided not until I can walk into a shop and buy a notebook with ubuntu pre-installed I will wait. I'm to old to pay bleeding edge tax.
[20:59] <inetpro> hmm...
[21:00] <ludo> I'm also giving in my geek card by only having to "computers" a raspberry pi and my notebook.
[21:00] <ludo> and I'm waiting for my second pi :D
[21:01] <inetpro> those take for ever to arrive
[21:01] <inetpro> what do you do with the pi?
[21:01] <ludo> yea but at least I payed bleeding edge tax and got paid for my pi as soon as I got the email.
[21:02] <ludo> emr
[21:02] <ludo> gah!
[21:02] <inetpro> emr?
[21:03] <ludo> I need to think before I type and read my sentence again before I press enter. emr should have been erm
[21:03] <ludo> *sigh* there my connection drops again...
[21:04] <ludo> But this time it was not my router, must be something on mwebs side.
[21:04] <inetpro> erm as in enterprise risk management?
[21:04] <inetpro> I think you need to talk to those guys at mweb
[21:04] <inetpro> tell them to come here so we can show them how bad it has been
[21:05] <inetpro> or erm as in Environmental Resources Management ?
[21:07] <inetpro> ai!
[21:08] <inetpro> ludo: erm as in enterprise risk management?
[21:08] <inetpro> or erm as in Environmental Resources Management ?
[21:09] <ludo> To err is human, to blame it on somebody else is good management potential. That is my rem. 
[21:09] <ludo> GAH! auto correct, it should be erm!
[21:10] <ludo> email sent will now wait indefinitely for them to reply.
[21:11] <ludo> Btw what is gonna be hot in 13.04?
[21:13] <superfly> ludo: hang out here more often and you'd know :-P
[21:13] <ludo> Ooh and I'm also super excited about steam on ubuntu and the source engine getting ported, even the prospects that the piston console will be running on ubuntu,or ubuntu based if the speculation are correct.
[21:14] <ludo> superfly, it might sound sad but I left other channels where personal friends hang out because I can not read the back log. So you guys are special, seeing I'm still lurking here ;)
[21:16] <ludo> :( I'm gonna find this peer guy and beat him with a stick!
[21:17] <ludo> but it seem interesting. looks like it is trying to use ipv6 to connect to free node and when it fails it uses ipv4
[21:24] <superfly> ludo: quassel
[21:25] <ludo> I don't have a headless box on the cloud. I only own two computers.
[21:27] <ludo> so running quassel on the same box I'm running xclient will not help.
[21:28] <ludo> But I'm of to bed. inetpro If my connections becomes a problem again just kick me, I don't want to be a bother.
[21:28] <inetpro> ludo: good night
[21:30] <inetpro> ludo: BTW, I think if you stick around and say something every now and again people will not even realise your instabilities
[21:39] <charl_> nn all