[00:00] <Pici> !info mythtv precise
[00:00] <escott> genii-around, not much point in asking in one channel why you are banned from an unrelated one
[00:00] <bswartz> Pici: thx
[00:00] <Pici> np
[00:00] <juancarlospaco> Papayou: xset dpms force on
[00:01] <juancarlospaco> Papayou: xset dpms force off
[00:02] <Papayou> juancarlospaco : ?
[00:04] <juancarlospaco> self descriptive it forces off or on the screen, can help trouble shoot
[00:10] <MrDyne> Can someone direct me to a channel for help with apache? Or can I ask here?
[00:11] <MrDyne> Apache on ubuntu.
[00:11] <jrib> MrDyne: what's the question?
[00:11] <mgolisch> just ask
[00:12] <MrDyne> Permissions.. How do I give my normal account "server" read and write access to my www folder so it's easyer to edit files. (sudoing for everything gets old.)
[00:13] <ev0lve> MrDyne: chown server.server -R www/
[00:13] <ev0lve> sudo chown if needbe.
[00:13] <MrDyne> I know apache doesn't run as my normal user but how do I lock write all files then make some folders writeable like image upload folders.
[00:14] <jrib> !permissions | MrDyne
[00:16] <packetfrog> Where can I get steam for ubuntu without signing up for anything?
[00:17] <InFlames> you need a steam account to login to steam, right? so what's so bad about logging in to the site to dl it?
[00:17] <bekks> packetfrog: Nowhere.
[00:17] <kostkon> packetfrog, u mean not signing for an u1 account?
[00:17] <packetfrog> On the ubuntu end of it..
[00:17] <kostkon> packetfrog, then if you don;t want to download it from the usc, go and download it on the steam website
[00:17] <escott> ev0lve, MrDyne should not be chowning that folder
[00:18] <kostkon> from* on* whatever
[00:18] <chrisbuchholz> On ubuntu 12.10, i have installed android-tools-adb, and are trying to get adb working, but it doesnt find my galaxy s3. Any ideas?
[00:18] <MrDyne> huh?
[00:18] <packetfrog> Thanks. :/
[00:18] <escott> MrDyne, you should add yourself to the www-data group. usermod -a -G www-data username
[00:18] <InFlames> http://store.steampowered.com/about/
[00:18] <MrDyne> how do I reset the permissions of my www folder (/var/www) to defaults
[00:19] <MrDyne> cuz I've tried a few things at it and have no clue what it is now.
[00:19] <InFlames> MrDyne, i think the question is what are the defaults, i don't think there is a way to reset it
[00:19] <escott> MrDyne, can't answer that without knowing what you changed
[00:19] <Noorideen> MrDyne, lol i have done the same thing :D
[00:19] <Noorideen> MrDyne, but i removed mint and now i wanna try ubuntu :P
[00:19] <incanus77> i need a hand with installation - actually i'd prefer live cd
[00:19] <InFlames> I broke my apache2 earlier MrDyne i feel your pain
[00:19] <incanus77> every time i try to download the iso
[00:20] <escott> MrDyne, i believe www-data:www-data 770 would be sensible
[00:20] <jrib> MrDyne: did you read the link ubottu gave you?
[00:20] <MrDyne> Haven't broken it yet.. just want easyer access.
[00:20] <MrDyne> yes I've looking at it
[00:20] <incanus77> direct or torrent, it's unmountable and when burned to a dvd, filesystem is unrecognizable
[00:20] <incanus77> this is on os x
[00:20] <escott> MrDyne, rather 660 on files and 770 on dirs
[00:20] <MrDyne> and can't upload files threw webpage.
[00:20] <Jeruvy> incanus77, you should download it via bitorrent you won't get a bad copy.
[00:20] <incanus77> just did, 2nd try
[00:20] <jrib> MrDyne: do you want apache to be able to write to the files in /var/www (this really only makes sense for things like wikis, etc., not static content)
[00:20] <incanus77> this is 12.10 desktop iso
[00:21] <MrDyne> Yes I'm going to have a wiki and a forums.
[00:21] <jrib> MrDyne: ok
[00:21] <Jeruvy> incanus77, also make sure you md5sum check before you burn a disk.
[00:21] <Noorideen> will ubuntu 12.10 work fine on my toshiba l305d satellite ?
[00:21] <packetfrog> omg why do they not have a torrent :/ so slow
[00:21] <Malsasa> Hello,  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12518579#post12518579   <<<   How to Write Correct copyright File?
[00:21] <incanus77> yeah, checking the sum now. had forgotten that. however this has happened before
[00:22] <escott> Noorideen, that is what the livecd is for
[00:22] <Noorideen> escott, well didnt think of that :P thank you
[00:22] <gnuskool> escott: livecd is officially over, its now 800MB in size
[00:22] <incanus77> ok, latest version i got (via torrent) md5 checks out
[00:22] <MrDyne> ya I have no clue were the permissions of /var/www are now.. it says permission denied for my normal user even when i'm on the www-data group.
[00:23] <InFlames> so i somehow broke apache2, i can't get localhost to even connect to /var/www/ now, it's just a 404, server is running
[00:23] <escott> gnuskool, liveusb then
[00:23] <incanus77> i have a valid .iso, md5 checks out, doesn't mount in os x
[00:23] <Noorideen> InFlames, thats what happened to me as well
[00:23] <jrib> MrDyne: what's the output of: ls -ld /var/www
[00:24] <InFlames> Noorideen, i don't advise it :x
[00:24] <escott> incanus77, why do you want to mount it?
[00:24] <Noorideen> InFlames, but from the start how could you wrx?
[00:24] <MrDyne> "d-wx-ws--x 3 server 1001 4096 Feb 17 15:36 /var/www/"
[00:24] <incanus77> well, that was a test. i also tried burning with disk util
[00:24] <escott> MrDyne, lol nice permissions there
[00:24] <Noorideen> there is no S
[00:24] <MrDyne> total reck?
[00:25] <Noorideen> what is s for?
[00:25] <escott> Noorideen, setgid is very sensible for /var/www
[00:25] <incanus77> i have also tried putting it on a usb stick, no luck there either
[00:25] <jrib> MrDyne: you should finish reading ubottu's link and figure out the permissions you want.  I'm glad to help you with any questions you have once you're done reading
[00:25] <escott> MrDyne, reminds me of those old dungeon crawlers you can open the door but you can't see what is inside because you have no light
[00:25] <Noorideen> escott, fast advice shall i go back to cinnamon mint or i can try ubuntu 12.10?
[00:25] <InFlames> Noorideen, my problem was the access denied issue, i gave up and installed bitnami's stack, but that then had broken php, so i am trying to fix it the right way
[00:26] <incanus77> per http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/burn-a-dvd-on-mac-osx
[00:26] <escott> MrDyne, you probably want to +r that folder and perhaps the subfolders
[00:26] <escott> Noorideen, the live image is there to help you test things. boot it and select "try ubuntu"
[00:26] <Noorideen> InFlames, when you know to fix please let me know
[00:26] <escott> incanus77, i dont know why you would need to mount it to burn the image
[00:27] <escott> incanus77, almost certainly unnecessary and probably wrong
[00:27] <incanus77> well, even w/o mounting, was just saying
[00:27] <dr_willis> you dont need to mount it to burn it.
[00:27] <incanus77> i'm saying it also does not mount
[00:27] <incanus77> in addition to not burning nor working on usb stick
[00:27] <dr_willis> you should be able to  image it straight to a usb stick via dd or its equilivent
[00:27] <InFlames> MrDyne, can you please post the link obottu gave you?
[00:27] <incanus77> i have dd
[00:27] <incanus77> i could try that
[00:27] <Noorideen> escott, today is a hard day for me i had a grup rescue thingie
[00:27] <dr_willis> you could also test it out in vbox.
[00:28] <Noorideen> kept reading about fixing it for 2 hours "{
[00:28] <incanus77> just if= and of= ?
[00:28] <incanus77> any other recommend args
[00:28] <MrDyne> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions ??
[00:28] <dr_willis> with dd a bs=4M option helps speed it up
[00:28] <incanus77> btw i'm a ~15 year user of linux, so this has me quite puzzled :-)
[00:28] <incanus77> ty dr_willis
[00:29] <bekks> the bs parameter should be set to the smaller size of the cache sizes of the source and target device
[00:29] <escott> !away > qos|away
[00:29] <bekks> That will give best performance.
[00:29] <Noorideen> MrDyne, how did you fix it in the first place?
[00:29] <InFlames> MrDyne, oh, this doesn't help me :[
[00:29] <InFlames> what is the problem you're having MrDyne ?
[00:30] <Noorideen> InFlames, same thing as us :D he cant access
[00:30] <MrDyne> Screwed up I think permissions on my /var/www folder.. php can't edit or upload files
[00:30] <InFlames> chmod 644
[00:30] <InFlames> that's what i did
[00:30] <MrDyne> plus I have to sudo root to edit website files which gets old to do in terminal..
[00:30] <InFlames> it worked at one point
[00:30] <InFlames> yea that was an issue too
[00:31] <Ben64> MrDyne: you _really_ need to fix your permissions there. you should not need sudo for that
[00:31] <MrDyne> so I'm looking on how to give my normal user read and write access.
[00:31] <InFlames> Ben, how does one add themselves to the www-data group?
[00:31] <escott> MrDyne, you have been told how to do that.
[00:31] <InFlames> i think that's the issue we're having?
[00:31] <Ben64> probably not
[00:31] <MrDyne> Yes i'm doing it right now
[00:31] <Noorideen> escott, could you tell me? :D
[00:31] <InFlames> you're supposed to add yourself to the group right?
[00:31] <MrDyne> yes did that
[00:32] <wad> I selected a file on my desktop, then pressed the "DEL" key, and the file is gone. Did it go to a trash can somewhere? How can I get it back?
[00:32] <MrDyne> I'm VNC and SSHing to my server so i'm a little slow..
[00:32] <escott> Noorideen, tell you what?
[00:32] <Ben64> vnc to server? : /
[00:32] <Noorideen> escott, will you promise me that you are gunna help how to add a group etc.. or i will stay on windows :P
[00:33] <MrDyne> Ok.. permissions fixed for my normal user.
[00:33] <MrDyne> Now to just make those few folders and settings files writeable..
[00:33] <Noorideen> MrDyne, how?
[00:33] <Ben64> Noorideen: what is the issue you are having
[00:34] <escott> Noorideen, its that I just told MrDyne the proper command 2 pages up. usermod -a -G www-data username; sudo find /var/www -type d -exec chmod g+s {} \; ; would be a pretty standard setting
[00:34] <thinknow> Is it possible to download any predifined iptables rules for ubuntu?
[00:34] <thinknow> thats more strict than the original rules
[00:34] <Noorideen> Ben64, today is such a hard day i swear, i was happy with linux and php bt i did something stupid and changed the permissions. i couldnt open dir /var/www/
[00:35] <Noorideen> escott, thank you mate gunna save that untill i install ubuntu
[00:36] <thinknow> where e.g everything is blocked(Just port 80, 8080, 6666, 21,) And ports for ssl, and maybe a good program to open some of the ports when you need it?
[00:36] <Noorideen> but srsly permissions thingie is so touchy
[00:36] <escott> !gufw | thinknow
[00:36] <gnuskool> thinknow: fireshark could do that couldnt it?
[00:37] <Noorideen> ok gunna install ubuntu now wish me luck :P
[00:37] <Noorideen> and thank you everyone
[00:37] <thinknow> gnuskool, havent tried fireshark
[00:38] <thinknow> ubottu, i know its an built-in firewall, but since i get hacked all the time on every computer(same network though) its not enough
[00:38] <InFlames> (2)No such file or directory: apache2: could not open error log file /var/www/purevisionmedia/logs/error.log.
[00:38] <thinknow> ops
[00:38] <thinknow> :p
[00:38] <InFlames> well., there is a start to my problem
[00:39] <gnuskool> thinknow: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pevSSBVuh40
[00:41] <thinknow> gnuskool, : i really dont like that interface
[00:41] <thinknow> it got compromised one time at least
[00:41] <incanus77> ok, burnt iso to usb via `dd`, also can't mount afterwards, unrecognizable filesystem
[00:41] <gnuskool> thinknow: its a front-end to iptables, you dont have to use it once they are set
[00:42] <thinknow> gnuskool,  the rules got deleted ++
[00:42] <MrDyne> what would be the best permission number for a wiki settings file? readable executeable but not writeable?
[00:42] <gnuskool> thinknow: that is how you will put them back
[00:43] <gnuskool> thinknow: otherwise, directly editing iptables manually make take a bit of effort
[00:43] <darent> hello, people
[00:43] <thinknow> but i need to could let some hosts or/and ports trough from time to time though, i can basic iptables config
[00:44] <thinknow> just dont really understand how it works, or i understand how in theory, but in pracsis....
[00:45] <thinknow> but anyway, isnt it a config file or something for ufw/iptables that i could load in?
[00:45] <thinknow> "load"
[00:45] <MrDyne> nvm.. found it on the wiki's forums.. chmod 644 LocalSettings.php
[00:45] <gnuskool> thinknow: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1871177
[00:46]  * thinknow reading
[00:47]  * evilroots is away: I'm busy
[00:47] <LIVEFORNOW> ************* PEPSI GETS THE PARTY STARTED
[00:47] <slestak> how do you restart samba in 12.04.2?  sudo service smbd restart cannot find smbd
[00:47] <LIVEFORNOW> LIVE FOR NOW WITH PEPSI
[00:48] <LIVEFORNOW> RIGHT NOW GRAB A PEPSI AND LIVE IN THE NOW
[00:48] <LIVEFORNOW> PEPSI MAKES IT HAPPEN
[00:48] <kostkon> LIVEFORNOW, please stop spamming
[00:48] <incanus77> escott dr_willis: any ideas? dd to usb stick also unmountable afterwards
[00:48] <bekks> Right now set another ignore. Living in the now.
[00:48] <LIVEFORNOW> PEPSI GETS IT GOING PEPSI.COM
[00:48] <LIVEFORNOW> ****
[00:48] <LIVEFORNOW> ***
[00:48] <incanus77> is the 12.10 i386 iso actually good?
[00:48] <FloodBot1> LIVEFORNOW: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:48] <LIVEFORNOW> ***
[00:48] <kostkon> :/
[00:49] <Ben64> heh
[00:49] <InFlames> didn't think someone would troll freenode...
[00:49] <Ben64> happens here often
[00:49] <InFlames> that's like bursting into a developer conference to call them nerds...
[00:49] <InFlames> seems so...pointless?
[00:49] <escott> MrDyne, the apache process controls the writes to the backing data store of the wiki pages (which is probably in SQL) so filesystem permissions are rather irrelevant
[00:49] <Ben64> incanus77: don't use 12.10 32bit unless your cpu supports PAE
[00:50] <incanus77> not sure if it does. gonna try 12.04 version now
[00:50] <incanus77> i have an early '09 core 2 duo
[00:50] <Ben64> shouldn't that support 64 bit?
[00:50] <escott> incanus77, thats a 64bit processor
[00:50] <incanus77> right, but website said 32 was recommended, so i went with that
[00:50] <sevenhill> incanus77,  why don't you try 13.10  64 bit version ?
[00:50] <incanus77> just to simplify
[00:51] <Ben64> its only recommended because 32 works on 32 and 64, and 64 only works on 64
[00:51] <holstein> incanus77: is there a problem with the 32bit version you are running?
[00:51] <Ben64> if you have a 64bit cpu, you should get the 64bit
[00:51] <incanus77> i'm not running, i cannot install
[00:51] <incanus77> i have downloaded the iso via http as well as torrent
[00:51] <holstein> incanus77: what errors?
[00:51] <incanus77> it never burns, not with disk utility, not with dd, not to disc nor usb stick
[00:51] <holstein> !md5 | incanus77
[00:51] <incanus77> md5 is good
[00:51] <slestak> incanus77: after install, does it appear to loop in lightdm?
[00:51] <jpmh> Ben64: if less than 4G why go to 64?
[00:51] <MrDyne> escott: Yes but php still needs to be able to access the php wiki settings file.. I copyed it into the directory when my permissions were screwed up so I had to set the file to the correct ones.
[00:51] <incanus77> i checked the md5
[00:51] <darent> i switched to 64 this year and its a lot faster
[00:52] <incanus77> it is valid
[00:52] <sevenhill> incanus77, as a summary if you have more than 3 gb ram you have to use 64 bit or 32bitwithPAE support ( i suggest you try 64 bit if you have more than 3 gb ram )
[00:52] <shwaiil> Q: I've left only one user account. When booting Im not asked for a password, even though auto-login is not activated. How to fix ? Tks!
[00:52] <holstein> incanus77: you burned to CD?
[00:52] <Ben64> jpmh: it's better
[00:52] <incanus77> yes
[00:52] <incanus77> holstein
[00:52] <holstein> incanus77: and the CD does what?
[00:52] <incanus77> cd is then unrecognizable
[00:52] <jpmh> Ben64: in what way better?
[00:52] <MrDyne> was gettin 500 error.
[00:52] <incanus77> no valid fs
[00:52] <MrDyne> oops
[00:52] <incanus77> so just now, i used dd to try again on a usb stick
[00:52] <dr_willis> i go 64bit on all my 64bit hardware.. saves hassles
[00:52] <incanus77> it also has no valid fs
[00:52] <Ben64> jpmh: google it, not really within the scope of this channel
[00:53] <MrDyne> was getting 500 error because php couldn't access the wiki's settings file..
[00:53] <Ben64> incanus77: where are you seeing the "no valid fs" stuff?
[00:53] <MrDyne> I chmod it correctly and it works now.
[00:53] <brennan> my wvdial is acting sluggish...   any suggestions?
[00:53] <dr_willis> incanus77: it should be an iso9660 fs
[00:53] <incanus77> finder cannot mount the cd or usb stick
[00:53] <jpmh> Ben64: why not in scope here?
[00:53] <incanus77> right, that's what i figured
[00:53] <incanus77> at least on cd/dvd it should be iso9660
[00:53] <holstein> incanus77: you cant boot to the live desktop?
[00:53] <Ben64> jpmh: this channel is for ubuntu, not for discussing architecture
[00:53] <incanus77> no, disk does not boot
[00:53] <incanus77> nor does usb stick
[00:53] <dr_willis> if you dd. it will be same on usb.
[00:53] <brennan> my wvdial is acting sluggish...   any suggestions?
[00:54] <Ben64> incanus77: so it's a mac?
[00:54] <incanus77> dr_willis: ah, k
[00:54] <incanus77> yeah, mac
[00:54] <Madhatt5r> Is anyone else getting errors when using apt-get? ( New to ubuntu, so it might be a user error).
[00:54] <Ben64> well i don't know then, haven't used any apple stuff
[00:54] <holstein> oh.. yeah, i had a hard time with my mac.. i gave up, and gave it away
[00:54] <Ben64> Madhatt5r: pastebin the error(s)
[00:54] <incanus77> right, i'm wondering if anyone here has ever had success in burning an os x iso for ubunut
[00:54] <brennan> my wvdial is acting sluggish...   any suggestions?
[00:55] <jpmh> Ben64: I agree but the question is to the 64 bit version of ubuntu - i am interested since my experience is that 64 bit loads much more slowly
[00:55] <holstein> incanus77: i would stick wiht the CD.. i would try "nomodeset"
[00:55] <incanus77> i've been using linux for 15 years and mac for 11, this has be really puzzled
[00:55] <dr_willis> incanus77:  it should be doable
[00:55] <incanus77> *me
[00:55] <incanus77> holstein: try where?
[00:55] <holstein> incanus77: i have booted 32 and 64 bit iso's on mac from cd
[00:55] <incanus77> cool
[00:55] <incanus77> ok lemme try 12.04 and see if that's better
[00:55] <incanus77> can't fathom what's going wrong here
[00:55] <incanus77> esp. since the md5 checks
[00:55] <brennan> my wvdial is acting sluggish...   any suggestions?
[00:55] <brennan> my wvdial is acting sluggish...   any suggestions?
[00:55] <brennan> my wvdial is acting sluggish...   any suggestions?
[00:55] <FloodBot1> brennan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:55] <Ben64> jpmh: 64 isn't going to be slower
[00:55] <sevenhill> incanus77, try 13.04
[00:56] <incanus77> where at
[00:56] <incanus77> i'm looking at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[00:56] <holstein> incanus77: the iso is good.. you can take the cd to another machine
[00:56] <Ben64> 13.04 isn't released yet
[00:56] <Madhatt5r> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1685332/
[00:56] <sevenhill> Ben64, still better than other versions ( for my opinion )
[00:56] <Madhatt5r> I get something like that for almost anything. Im guessing it is a network config error.
[00:56] <R323T> hello guys
[00:57] <Ben64> Madhatt5r: you have a dns problem
[00:57] <Madhatt5r> Hmm
[00:57] <Ben64> Madhatt5r: echo "nameserver 4.2.2.2" | sudo tee -a /etc/resolv.conf
[00:58] <Ben64> Madhatt5r: that should temporarily solve the problem, but you should fix your network configuration
[00:58] <Madhatt5r> Yeah I will need to figure out how all that works.
[00:59] <Madhatt5r> THanks for the temp fix though.
[00:59] <Brittany> Anyone know a good to do list application for ubuntu? I just need something that would pop up with an application notification for a time I specify.
[01:00] <InFlames> ok, apache2 fixed, now we'll see if i can fix the other stuff
[01:00] <incanus77> trying a 12.04 cd burn now
[01:00] <incanus77> md5 checked out
[01:01] <ClientAlive> I have 29 directories that In need to rename but part of it could involve transposing part of the current name to a different place in the name. Can anyone help me with a command to automate this?
[01:01] <holstein> incanus77: have you reset the pram?
[01:02] <Madhatt5r> Anyone have a decent tutorial/guide for configuring network settings?
[01:02] <lewik> Ctrl+A Shift+w  Shift+click   doest work. What it can be?
[01:02] <lewik> Ctrl+F too
[01:02] <dr_willis> ClientAlive:  you just doing this the one time?
[01:02] <holstein> Madhatt5r: depend on the goal.. what are you trying to do?
[01:03] <lewik> Shift+p  doesnt work =(
[01:03] <flintser> escott: bcbc2: i ended up with bcbc2's solution to use easybcd. i made lilo mbr, installed easybcd and then added ubuntu in there and now i can boot ubuntu and windows from the windows "boot loader" :) thanks for help!!!
[01:03] <incanus77> holstein: no. not sure how that would affect usb stick burning anyway
[01:03] <Madhatt5r> Well currently try to fix my DNS issue that I am having currently. Still cant use apt-get for anything, after the temp fix Ben64 told me about it is still just timing out.
[01:03] <ClientAlive> dr_willis: 29 directories to do - would be very time consuming to do by hand and I can store the command to reuse later and study to learn how it works.
[01:04] <Noorideen> escott, i am sad now i am on ubuntu 12.10 live, and my wireless adapter isnt working
[01:04] <holstein> incanus77: usb sticks dont really get burned.. and i dont think that is the issue.. i think the issue is the machine is not booting the properly created bootable media.. you can confrim this by going to another machine with the media
[01:04] <InFlames> Noorideen, fixed
[01:04] <InFlames> you ever solve your problem?
[01:04] <ClientAlive> An example is:   current name -> "Artist - year - the album title"  renamed would be -> "Artist_AlbumTitle[year]"
[01:04] <incanus77> holstein: yeah, you'd think it would mount thoguh
[01:04] <dr_willis> ClientAlive:  for complex renameing of several files - i tend to use the 'qmv' command.  it lets you use a text editor to correct the names. then when you save/exit. it renames them how you edited them
[01:04] <incanus77> if it were a valid burn disc
[01:05] <Noorideen> InFlames, my problem didnt face it yet, i am installing ubuntu
[01:05] <Noorideen> but the wireless isnt working
[01:05] <holstein> incanus77: test the CD on another machine.. AFAIK, macs dont boot usb
[01:05] <incanus77> not sure i have another machine with a bootable optical drive
[01:05] <incanus77> ok, 12.04 just finished burn
[01:05] <ClientAlive> dr_willis: no kidding! Is qmv something I would have with a default 12.04 install or I need to get it?
[01:05] <incanus77> and it is valid
[01:05] <incanus77> mounts on desktop
[01:05] <incanus77> assume it will be bootable
[01:05] <ulkesh> incanus77: forgive me if I didn't see it before, but you are holding down "Option" when booting to get the boot choices, right?
[01:05] <dr_willis> ClientAlive:  its part of the renameutils package i  belive
[01:06] <incanus77> there is something up with the i386 desktop iso for 12.10
[01:06] <dr_willis> !find qmv
[01:06] <incanus77> 12.04 is fine
[01:06] <Noorideen> anyone is running ubuntu 12.10 on toshiba satellite?
[01:06] <holstein> incanus77: i would assume nothing.. i would test it in another machine, then you'll know the issue is the machine not booting properly created media, or the media
[01:06] <dr_willis> ClientAlive:  syntax i normally use is like    qmv -f do -e geany *
[01:06] <ClientAlive> dr_willis: thx. I'll check it out
[01:06] <ClientAlive> cool
[01:06] <ClientAlive> :)
[01:07] <incanus77> ok. well, thanks all. 12.04 will work for me for now.
[01:07] <dr_willis> ClientAlive:  ive also sort of cheated and used 'bulk rename utility.exe' in wine ;)
[01:08] <jrib> ClientAlive: just use the "rename" command
[01:08] <Noorideen> dr_willis, my wireless isnt working on ubuntu always the same thing even on 9.10 :P, do you have any clue?
[01:08] <lewik> Help =) My keyboard doesnt work full!
[01:08] <ClientAlive> jrib: thx. I'll check that out too  :)
[01:08] <dr_willis> Noorideen:  'always has the same thing'  dosent really tell us much
[01:08] <Ben64> could use krename
[01:08] <lewik> Ctrl+F do not work! Shift+w Shift+p !
[01:09] <Noorideen> dr_willis, thats weird everything was running fine on cinnamon mint.
[01:09] <flintser> Noorideen: there aren't anything in proprietary drivers?
[01:09] <Ben64> lewik: get a new keyboard?
[01:09] <Noorideen> flintser, i will check now the cable :P
[01:09] <Noorideen> cable*
[01:09] <bkc_> lewik: at all, or in a specific program?
[01:09] <lewik> Only on linux
[01:09] <bkc_> -.-
[01:10] <karunamaya> hello brothers
[01:10] <packetfrog> what controls the sounds in ubuntustudio? I am getting no volume right now for some reason.
[01:10] <lewik> tty work
[01:10] <minimad> how do you change your encrypted passphrase?
[01:10] <lewik> I think its in KDE
[01:11] <escott> minimad, there should be an ecryptfs command to add a passphrase to the keyring. i dont have ecryptfs installed but see what commands it has
[01:11] <bkc_> lewik: what are you trying to do?
[01:11] <packetfrog> escott: http://www.linuxlog.org/?p=70  looks promising.
[01:11] <minimad> thank you escott
[01:11] <packetfrog> oops
[01:11] <packetfrog> minimad see above link
[01:12] <lewik> bkc_: Ctrl+A dont work in all apps in kde.
[01:12] <minimad> thank youpacketfrog
[01:12] <packetfrog> No problem.
[01:12] <bkc_> lewik: "doesn't work" isn't a valid use-case... what do you expect it to do?
[01:12] <packetfrog> hope it helps.
[01:12] <lewik> bkc_: I think I broke hotkeys/ In TTY they work
[01:13] <lewik> bkc_: I mean I can't use this hotkeys
[01:13] <bkc_> lewik: and what should that hotkey do?
[01:13] <Noorideen> flintser, dr_willis thank you its working now
[01:14] <flintser> is there a way of preventing recent files in dash, or anywhere at all. i dont really like to see my "personal files" showing up on there ^^
[01:14] <Brittany> Is it alright in this chatroom to occasionally re-post a question if it hasn't been answered in the past, say, half an hour?
[01:14] <escott> Brittany, yes
[01:14] <lewik> bkc_: ....  Shift+w must print big w.  Ctrl+F - search. Ctrl+A - select all
[01:14] <Brittany> Thanks, escott. Will keep that in mind in future.
[01:14] <dr_willis> flintser:  in the settings theres setting fro it.. in privacy perhaps. saw them the other day
[01:15] <karunamaya> hello peoples
[01:15] <karunamaya> im russian!
[01:15] <karunamaya> ))
[01:15] <dr_willis> flintser:  i think theres an icon on the dash panel somewhere also to set them.. but im not sure on that
[01:15] <bkc_> lewik: yes, shift+w isn't a hotkey so that's obviously wrong... but ctrl+f and ctrl+a only works in a _specific_ program... in other words no controlled by KDE
[01:16] <karunamaya> i\m from russia!
[01:16] <bkc_> !ru
[01:16] <jdukiet> I'm having trouble trying to download and install a theme. None of the instructions I have found worked. Can someone gimmie a hint  ?  I'm running 12.04.2 LTS.
[01:17] <lewik> bkc_:   ...  broken shift+w - very strange
[01:17] <dr_willis> jdukiet:  i tend to just use the various ppa's to get themes for unity/gnome-shell.   thers so manyu old theme files out at the  gnome* sites that it can get confuseing as to what theme is for what versions
[01:17] <bkc_> lewik: yes, did you try the right-hand shift?
[01:17] <minimad> Device /dev/sda6 is not a valid LUKS device.
[01:17] <minimad> >:/
[01:17] <minimad> ubuntu 12.10 trying  to change my encryption passphrase
[01:18] <Zombeh22> Hello everyone, I was wondering if someone could shed some light on a problem I'm having.
[01:18] <minimad> I would love some help please
[01:18] <bkc_> !question | Zombeh22
[01:18] <Zombeh22> I have the ubuntu 12.04 and I made a bootdrive from a 4gb flash.
[01:19] <jdukiet> dr_willis: thanks
[01:19] <holstein> minimad: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=670667 is what i would refer to first
[01:19] <minimad> thank you holstein I'll check that link out
[01:19] <Zombeh22> When I boot from the usb it loads initially then I get an error.
[01:19] <holstein> Zombeh22: what error? have you tried "nomodeset" or any other options?
[01:20] <dr_willis> jdukiet:  the webupd8 site has a nice ppa with the top themes they  have found.
[01:20] <Zombeh22> Sorry, I was just trying to state why I'd come.
[01:20] <lewik> bkc_: this "hotkey" do not work with both sides od modkeys
[01:20] <holstein> Zombeh22: sure, what error?
[01:20] <Zombeh22> It never got far enough to offer any options.
[01:20] <lewik> bkc_: i try left and right  - no result
[01:20] <holstein> Zombeh22: what is the error you are encoutering?
[01:21] <holstein> encountering*
[01:21] <Zombeh22> Something about "not syncing, exitcode 0x00000100"
[01:21] <bkc_> lewik: does any key work with shift? otherwise I'm guessing at a faulty keyboard...
[01:21] <Atomic> If I install on an existing ext4 partition using a LiveUSB, will it erase existing files (in non-conflicting locations)?
[01:21] <holstein> Zombeh22: let us know the exacty error. thanks!
[01:21] <dr_willis> Atomic:  the installer will want to format.. but i think the formating is optional..
[01:21] <lewik> bkc_: yes OTHER works
[01:21] <Zombeh22> All it gets to is that.
[01:22] <dr_willis> Atomic:  id have backups just in case.
[01:22] <lewik> bkc_: shift+w worts in tty terminal
[01:22] <Zombeh22> Boots to the Maroon screen then that.
[01:22] <lewik> bkc_: works
[01:22] <flintser> Atomic: on install there is an option to completely remove existing install, or reinstall the existing version
[01:22] <bkc_> lewik: that's odd... shift isn't a modifier in that sense :/
[01:22] <tgunr> I am setting up ubuntu for first time on a VM on my mac using parallels, all is going pretty good…. except I am constantly hitting the cmd key and it throws up a search window. Is there anyway to disable this behavior? It's driving me batty
[01:22] <minimad> ok before I continue I have encrypted my drive on a previous installation 12.04 ... I'm nervous hostein on the modprobe - link you gave me
[01:22] <lewik> bkc_:  =( cant understand eng
[01:22] <Atomic> I'm trying to migrate from a different distro, so I want to just move that old distro into /old/ and then reinstall.
[01:22] <minimad> the drive is already encrypted
[01:23] <Zombeh22> 9.228051, 9.228096
[01:23] <Zombeh22> Those are the last sections I remember it going through.
[01:23] <lewik> bkc_:  I install that keyboard today and do a lot of with keyboard settings. But shift+w i don't touch
[01:23] <bkc_> lewik: what language do you speak?
[01:23] <lewik> bkc_: russian =)
[01:24] <holstein> Zombeh22: just replicate the error and let us know
[01:24] <Zombeh22> ok, back in a few.
[01:24] <Pinkamena_D> hi i have something really weird i am curious about
[01:24] <InFlames> tgunr, you mean it opens the ubuntu dashboard?
[01:24] <Pinkamena_D> whenever i am in the X (alt+f7) and i turn num lock on or off, the hard drive is used. the light goes on and i can hear it do a short read or write
[01:24] <tgunr> well, its says "Search" at the top, i guess its really the dash board
[01:25] <Pinkamena_D> i can keep presssing the button and it will keep doing that
[01:25] <Pinkamena_D> why the heck is this lol
[01:25] <zizziozio> I just found out something really shameful ... Ubuntu runs extremely slooow in VirtualBox, and Win7 and WinXP are fast as hell (also in rebooting). It's a hard blow for me... So sad!!! So, anyone here could help me fin out why Ubuntu is so slow?
[01:25] <bkc_> !ru | lewik
[01:25] <holstein> Pinkamena_D: ?
[01:25] <dr_willis> zizziozio:  unity wants a 3d capable video card.
[01:25] <bkc_> lewik: try asking in there :)
[01:25] <shwaiil> I'm getting "Partition(s) 5 on /dev/sdb have been written, but we have been unable to inform the kernel of the change, probably because it/they are in use.  As a result, the old partition(s) will remain in use.  You should reboot now before making further changes."
[01:25] <Pinkamena_D> what did you not understand? sorry
[01:26] <flintser> tgunr: !info ccsm
[01:26] <lewik> bkc_: thx
[01:26] <zizziozio> dr_willis: I set 3d in settings of the VM and guest additions are installed
[01:26] <flintser> !info ccsm
[01:26] <holstein> Zombeh22: hardware support.. install the vbox packages
[01:26] <tgunr> cc/ thanks reading
[01:26] <flintser> where is the ccsm D:
[01:26] <holstein> Zombeh22: sorry... zizziozio ^^
[01:26] <Pinkamena_D> when i turn num lock on or off, it uses the hard drive
[01:26] <shwaiil> I need to format a HDD thats going back for replacement, i'm pretty sure its not being used by the system.. I mean.. I was thinking it wasnt but now i'm confused. Is there a way to check that ?
[01:26] <dr_willis> zizziozio:  but thats not really a decent 3d chipset.  i reccomend lubuntu in vbox.
[01:26] <holstein> Pinkamena_D: ok.. and whats the issue?
[01:26] <Atomic> Is there anywhere that I could get a tarball of an Ubuntu installation? Like Gentoo has stage tarballs?
[01:26] <zizziozio> holstein: isn't guest additions installed by default in 12.10?
[01:27] <Pinkamena_D> i just wanted to know why, curiosity is all (and that seems like a small waste of seek time too)
[01:27] <holstein> zizziozio: i would test and confirm that but the graphics card issue is the main thing
[01:27] <dr_willis> zizziozio:  why would they be installed by default? they are only needed  for vm guests
[01:27] <zizziozio> dr_willis: so... It' a problem related to specifically to unity and not whole Ubuntu?
[01:27] <Nerp> does screen have a tab limit?
[01:27] <tgunr> hmm, no such thing as info ccsm
[01:27] <dr_willis> zizziozio:  unity wants decent 3d hardware.
[01:27] <al__la> Can anyone recommend a small cheap ($10-20) wireless usb network card that works well with ubuntu 12.10 out of the box without ndiswrapper or any workarounds?  I see a lot of good cheap ones on amazon, but their linux support seems questionable.
[01:27] <holstein> zizziozio: its not a problem at all.. its a confguration that is not optimale for the way you are using it
[01:27] <dr_willis> !ccam | tgunr
[01:27] <dr_willis> !ccsm | tgunr
[01:28] <zizziozio> dr_willis: almost all distros now boots with LiveCD searching if runs on vbox ;)
[01:28] <dr_willis> zizziozio:  i run lubuntu in vbox all the time. I really dont need the fancy unity effects on a vbox setup
[01:28] <Ben64> al__la: http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?p_id=8072
[01:29] <zizziozio> dr_willis: guest additions are installed by defaults if during install the Live environment recognize it's running on vbox
[01:29] <tgunr> doesn't ! cause a search in bash history?
[01:29] <zizziozio> dr_willis: ok, I'll go for lubuntu
[01:29] <dr_willis> tgunr:  in bash yes.. on irc its a  bot trigger
[01:29] <tgunr> ok, got the info but no ccsm
[01:29] <zizziozio> dr_willis: better: there's an 2d option for unity in 12.10?
[01:29] <dr_willis> tgunr:  so !info foo here ISa bot trigger
[01:29] <tgunr> ok, got it
[01:29] <tgunr> reading
[01:30] <dr_willis> zizziozio:  its a work in progress.. its not optmized much yet
[01:30] <zizziozio> dr_willis: so, go for lxde or xfce...
[01:30] <dr_willis> i use lubuntu/lxde
[01:31] <dr_willis> in my vm sessions
[01:31] <al__la> Ben64: perfect, thank you.
[01:31] <zizziozio> dr_willis: It's really a pity for me discover this. Also because Ubuntu is becoming so cool in these last 2 yrs
[01:32] <zizziozio> dr_willis: ok, then. I'll go for light DEs :]
[01:32] <dr_willis> zizziozio:  do a full install then.. dosent matter to us. In a vbox instance i always use lubuntu. done it that way for years.
[01:32] <tgunr> ccdm crashed
[01:32] <tgunr> ccsm, oh well
[01:32] <dr_willis> you want your vm session to be as light as possible. so you dont hog resources from the host
[01:33] <zizziozio> dr_willis: you got it man
[01:33] <zizziozio> dr_willis: ty for your time/advices. Bye!
[01:33] <dr_willis> if i need a linux on a windows box. i often use tinycore linux in vbox
[01:34] <zizziozio> dr_willis: I need a Canonical distro
[01:34] <robotnut> hi all
[01:35] <robotnut> is there a webmin module for samba4?
[01:35] <dr_willis> see the webmin homepage?
[01:35] <Ben64> !webmin
[01:35] <zizziozio> dr_willis: possibly Ubuntu, but given how things went
[01:35]  * zizziozio bye ubuntusers!
[01:38] <elijah> What is the program that will run a command over and over again?
[01:38] <Random832> watch
[01:38] <elijah> At a specified interval
[01:38] <dr_willis> elijah:   like   'watch df -h'
[01:39] <robotnut> i checked webmin.com
[01:39] <robotnut> however - its not clear what version it supports
[01:39] <robotnut> i need it to support samba4
[01:39] <elijah> yes, that's the one, thanks Random832 and dr_willis
[01:39] <dr_willis> robotnut:  try the webmin support channels..  its not supported here.
[01:39] <nearst> hi ubuntu fan, greetings
[01:39] <robotnut> i have
[01:39] <robotnut> :S
[01:39] <dr_willis> install it then.. and see if it works..
[01:39] <robotnut> using ubuntu and trying to get samba4 up and running but need a mobule for webmin
[01:40] <robotnut> i did but it doesnt seem to work right - so im checking here to see if anyone has experience with it
[01:40] <Ben64> thats cool, its still not supported though
[01:40] <dr_willis> theres also the samba channel
[01:40] <robotnut> ahh didnt think about that
[01:40] <robotnut> let me try that - thx
[01:42] <maxygas> hi
[01:43] <maxygas> i would like somebody to help me please
[01:44] <minimad> can someone give me a command line to change my encrypted password
[01:44] <diego_> hola alguien puede ayudarme?
[01:44] <minimad> please
[01:44] <FluxD> Hi, I am looking to see if there are any tools to do process loggin every minute and calculate stats like up/down b/w usage memory etc ( OTHER than sar)
[01:44] <diego_> can anyone help me? i have a quad core and my last nucle have is much more hot than the othres three
[01:45] <minimad> how do you change your encryption via command line - please?
[01:46] <minimad> ubuntu 12.10
[01:46] <Zombeh22> alright, I have returned.
[01:47] <minimad> Welcome back Zombeh
[01:47] <escott> minimad, its supposedly ecryptfs-rewrap-passphrase
[01:47] <minimad> ah thank YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:47] <Zombeh22> [5.825310] xor: automatically using best checksumming function
[01:48] <Zombeh22> [9.219638] kernal panic -not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
[01:48] <Zombeh22> Need more?
[01:48] <minimad> ecryptfs-rewrap-passphrase [file]
[01:48] <minimad> or
[01:48] <minimad> printf "%s\n%s" "old wrapping passphrase" "new wrapping passphrase" | ecryptfs-rewrap-passphrase [file] -
[01:49] <minimad> thats new
[01:49] <FloodBot1> minimad: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:49] <minimad> 4 lines realy
[01:49] <minimad> ok
[01:49] <minimad> ecrypt  barked out that crap
[01:50] <escott> minimad, file should be the wrapped passphrase i believe (and back it up first)
[01:50] <minimad> ?
[01:51] <escott> minimad, it expects a file argument
[01:51] <minimad> escott? help me out...
[01:51] <escott> ecryptfs-rewrap-passphrase /path/to/the/wrapped/passphrase/you/want/to/rewrap
[01:52] <minimad> HMM
[01:52] <michael__> should i ask for help in this channel or somewhere else?
[01:53] <dr_willis> help with  what exactly?
[01:53] <minimad> hmm
[01:53] <holstein> michael__: i would check the topic, and if the question is about ubuntu support, ask it here
[01:53] <michael__> I have no sound in ubuntu 12.10
[01:53] <michael__> I had sound
[01:53] <holstein> !audio | michael__
[01:54] <holstein> michael__: i would install pavucontrol
[01:54] <tgunr> ubottu: is there somewhere specific in ccdm for the cmd-key -> dashboard? I have look thru most all of them and search in ccdm is not helpful
[01:54] <michael__> Ok ty
[01:54] <dr_willis> ... ubottu  is the channel robot.. not a person
[01:54] <minimad> escott I'm trying to change my encryption password? for my drive
[01:54] <tgunr> just figured that out :)
[01:55] <tgunr> i told you it was driving me batty
[01:55] <minimad> Ubuntu 12.10 someone help me out on how to redo my encryption for my  drive
[01:55] <minimad> please
[01:56] <flintser> tgunr: have you found out a solution yet?
[01:56] <escott> minimad, yes so rewrap the passphrase in ~/.Private
[01:57] <tgunr> nope, nothing bout dashboard in the search either
[01:57] <escott> minimad, or perhaps it is in /home/.ecryptfs/something
[01:57] <escott> minimad, i think it is supposed to be in ~/.Private these days
[01:57] <minimad> thank you escott
[01:57] <flintser> i just searched through gconf-editor, ccsm and dconf editor and none of them has the option to set dash key...
[01:58] <flintser> i think in 11.10 it was possible but that doesnt help much :)
[01:58] <tgunr> oh well
[01:59] <tgunr> coming from mac to ubuntu, have a lot to unlearn
[01:59] <JayT> I want to run a bash script, that runs an rsync command. If I just run 'mycommand' in shell, it works fine. I'm trying to make a keyboard shortcut for 'mycommand' now. I set it to control shift s, though it's not executing 'mycommand'.
[02:00] <JayT> I can see inside keyboard/custom shortcuts, I have a name="name" and command="mycommand", and the keys say control shift s
[02:00] <JayT> It doesn't work though.
[02:00] <flintser> tgunr: found the solution!!! install ccsm and then alt+f2 and write about:config
[02:00] <Zombeh22> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1685771/
[02:01] <escott> JayT, what did you put in for mycommand
[02:01] <tgunr> looking
[02:01] <JayT> escott: The name of the file 'mycommand', which is in the path. (which is why it works when I type 'mycommand' in a shell).
[02:01] <Zombeh22> ^ that is what happens when I boot from pendrive.
[02:02] <michael__> ok this is very strange, alsamixer if I enable my microphone as an output i can hear it but from speaker-test -c 2 I get no output. Any ideas?
[02:02] <dr_willis> JayT: try using the full path to the command
[02:02] <escott> JayT, when someone asks you a question in channel its helpful if you actually answer it
[02:02] <holstein> michael__: i dont think there is an easy way to hear the mic output
[02:02] <JayT> dr_willis: ok, I'll try that now.
[02:03] <holstein> michael__: what are you trying to accomplish? maybe JACK audio is more what you need
[02:03] <michael__> well I can hear my own microphone right now
[02:03] <JayT> escott: What do you want to know specifically?
[02:03] <holstein> michael__: ok.. so what is the issue?
[02:04] <JayT> dr_willis: Good call, the absolute path worked fine. Weird... it's in my $PATH. It works from a shell. I wonder why I have to specify the absolute path.
[02:04] <michael__> Wow
[02:04] <michael__> nevermind
[02:04] <michael__> problem solved itself, faulty connection
[02:04] <dr_willis> because  its not a bash shell jayt
[02:05] <JayT> I see. That makese sense. I guess I shouldn't assume the environment is a shell.
[02:05] <JayT> dr_willis: Thanks for the help, I appreciate it.
[02:05] <III> Good night for all, bye
[02:06] <flintser> JayT: you could do "!#/bin/bash /path/to/script/" and put it in /usr/share/bin/ and set the x bit
[02:06] <flintser> i mean /usr/bin
[02:06] <tgunr> flintser: all see is http://polymicro.clarify-it.com/d/tykw7t
[02:07] <flintser> yep that is it
[02:07] <flintser> press enter :)
[02:07] <flintser> open the purple Unity thing
[02:08] <flintser> tgunr: ^^
[02:08] <Noorideen> the defualt is unity right?
[02:08] <flintser> there is a modifier "Key to show the launcher" and the def key is <Super> which is your cmd-button
[02:09] <escott> flintser, /usr/share/bin was right :)
[02:09] <minimad> I encrypted my drive when I installed ubuntu 12.04.  How do I change the encryption key?
[02:09] <tgunr> no, nothing happens when i click on Unity
[02:10] <Noorideen> unity is hard for me how to change it?
[02:10] <minimad> Please help me.
[02:10] <flintser> tgunr:  did you run "sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager" in terminal? it installs ccsm and then you can open the about:config, it is a plugin for ccsm so it is needed to open it
[02:11] <tgunr> yep, thanks man, i found the unity thingy, whew
[02:11] <minimad> I'm booted in just want to change the key and write down the encryption  key
[02:12] <iacadmin> Heya
[02:12] <doomlord> is ubuntu-arm ontopic here?
[02:12] <iacadmin> guess i got the network card working
[02:13] <minimad> I just want to change the password for my encrypted drive
[02:13] <escott> minimad, do you mean you used luks not ecryptfs?
[02:13] <minimad> not shure escott
[02:13] <minimad> ubuntu 12.04 gave me an option to encrypt the home folder
[02:13] <escott> minimad, because i just gave you an answer for ecryptfs... so what was wrong with that answer
[02:13] <Malsasa> Hello, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12518579#post12518579    <<<   How to Write Correct copyright File?
[02:14] <Zombeh22> I get an error when trying to boot from pendrive http://paste.ubuntu.com/1685771/
[02:14] <dr_willis> !arm
[02:14] <tgunr> is it called the HUD or Dashboard? I'm not seeing Dashboard
[02:14] <flintser> tgunr: maybe this helps: http://imagebin.org/247361
[02:14] <iacadmin> human user device
[02:15] <iacadmin> lols us to the gods
[02:15] <minimad> It gave me an unknown action
[02:15] <dr_willis> hud = when you tap the alt key
[02:15] <dr_willis> dash = tap the super key
[02:15] <tgunr> I presume option key on mac = alt
[02:15] <escott> minimad, then say that. don't just keep asking the question
[02:15] <iacadmin> sry made lols i have been trying to get this youth outreach server online and opensimulator put on it
[02:15] <escott> minimad, what was the exact command you ran, and what was the output
[02:16] <minimad>  cryptsetup -y luksAddkey /dev/sda6 <- gave me an unknown action
[02:16] <dr_willis> hold super key = shows shortcuts
[02:16] <iacadmin> i have learned terminal a bit and if up andifdown and su and apt-get and tasksel
[02:16] <iacadmin> been hard
[02:16] <escott> i'm done
[02:16] <iacadmin> im happy i finnally got most done at least hard link to inet
[02:17] <minimad> ok escott thats a harsh way to put it.
[02:17] <iacadmin> im learning how to mono ""
[02:17] <iacadmin> to start some apps
[02:18] <minimad> could you at least tell me where I failed.  Dont care if you beat me upside the head
[02:18] <escott> minimad, you don't listen to what i suggest, you come back at me with commands i never suggested. if you are going to ignore what i say. i'm not going to waste my time. if you had a question about what my instructions meant you should have asked it instead of ignoring it
[02:18] <flintser> tgunr: you can use there pretty much any combination you want, i still want to make sure that it works so can you report here for results? so if someone asks later i and the rest of us can answer more quickly and surely
[02:18] <iacadmin> well i dont want to get kicked for spamming or anything, bye. Mistwood Labs~
[02:19] <minimad> fair enough
[02:19] <Noorideen> escott, installed ubuntu :) but i cant deal with unity atm, its kinda hard for now :P
[02:19] <sanrom> buenas que tal?, estoy trabado con el gestor de paquetes despues de una actualizacion, que puedo hacer para reinstalar los repositorios en 12.04?
[02:19] <escott> !notunity | Noorideen
[02:19] <Ben64> !es | sanrom
[02:19] <litropy> How can I see more details about a process, such as what program is using it, what it is doing (in as humanly readable terms as possible - I'll take what I can get)?
[02:19] <tgunr> I changed the HUD key, but the "Dashboard" still pops up http://polymicro.clarify-it.com/d/tykw7t
[02:20] <Noorideen> escott, thank you :)
[02:20] <sanrom> thanks ;)
[02:20] <Ben64> litropy: a process is a program, what do you want do see?
[02:22] <litropy> Ben64, Very true. I want to see, for instance, what spawned the program and what it's working on.
[02:22] <escott> minimad, this is the command you want. ecryptfs-rewrap-passphrase /path/to/the/wrapped/passphrase/you/want/to/rewrap
[02:22] <tgunr> Is the key next to space bar considered the "Super" key?
[02:22] <minimad> thank you escott
[02:23] <escott> tgunr, "Super" is usually "Windows Key"
[02:23] <minimad> I'm sorry if I ticked you off
[02:23] <flintser> tgunr: you didn't change anything? change the "Key to show the launcher" to something else. press it and choose for example alt+z. if you don't want the "type your command"-screen either, you should change "Key to show the HUD" to something else too
[02:23] <minimad> just frustrated right now
[02:23] <minimad> thank you for helping me out
[02:23] <flintser> tgunr: super = cmd
[02:23] <escott> minimad, so ask a question if you are confused
[02:23] <flintser> on mac
[02:23] <tgunr> ah, the "launcher" == dashboard
[02:23] <Noorideen> tgunr, they key beside left alt
[02:24] <minimad> I'm seriously thankful for your help
[02:24] <tgunr> ok, found it! The confusion is calling it the "dashboard"
[02:24] <Ben64> litropy: `pstree -p` will show you all the processes and parents, "what it's working on" is very ambiguous and you probably can't get what you want from that
[02:24] <flintser> Noorideen: escott: tgunr: he uses mac so it is cmd key. maybe it is next to lalt too but it is cmd.
[02:25] <rj1> hi there...whats d difference betweem amd64 and i386 installations?
[02:25] <tgunr> yeah, so on Macintosh cmd=windows=super
[02:25] <Noorideen> flintser, oh i am sorry didint know that he uses mac.
[02:25] <escott> rj1, different architectures for different kinds of processors
[02:26] <j_> hello
[02:26] <wool> alguem sabe onde compro algo do ubuntu em nova york?
[02:26] <escott> rj1, if your computer is <5years old it can probably run amd64
[02:26] <escott> !br | wool
[02:26] <flintser> tgnur: but it works now?
[02:26] <tgunr> yeah and launcher==dashboard i guess
[02:27] <wool> Anyone know where I buy something from ubuntu in new york?
[02:27] <dr_willis> book stores should have some ubuntu books.. if you want just 'anything' ;)
[02:27] <flintser> launcher is the whole side-bar, but yes, it is confusingly written in ccsm. it should be called "key to show the dashboard"
[02:28] <Ben64> yeah, i've even seen a raspberry pi book at a bookstore
[02:28] <xangua> wool: you can buy t-shirts from canonical webstore
[02:28] <lmat> I'm about to install some software from a tarball. Where should I install it?
[02:28] <lmat> This is a server machine.
[02:28] <Noorideen> escott, i am installing LAMP from http://setupguides.blogspot.com/2012/10/install-lamp-in-ubuntu-1210.html can you please check if i am doing the right thing?
[02:28] <dr_willis> lmat:  for a single user.. in their home
[02:28] <lmat> I did a practice run installing to ~ (on a personal machine) and all went well.
[02:28] <dr_willis> lmat:  for all users /opt/
[02:28] <lmat> dr_willis: It's a service.
[02:28] <Ben64> lmat: you should make sure it doesn't exist in the repositories first
[02:28] <lmat> Ben64: It doesn't, thanks :)
[02:28] <Ben64> or ppa
[02:29] <lmat> Ben64: What's ppa?
[02:29] <Ben64> installing from source means you don
[02:29] <Ben64> 't get security updates
[02:29] <lmat> Ben64: It's not from source.
[02:29] <lmat> dr_willis: Where is the right way to install a service?
[02:29] <Ben64> well it still won't get you security updates
[02:29] <bcbc2> flintser: did you see bug 1061255
[02:29] <dr_willis> right way would be to use the repos/ppa
[02:29] <lmat> dr_willis: okay, I'll have to look that up :)
[02:29] <Ben64> strange that it's being distributed in a tar while being a binary
[02:29] <Ben64> lmat: what is it?
[02:29] <wool> xangua: 'm from Brazil I'm going to new york, I wonder if there would buy something like ubuntu?
[02:30] <lmat> Ben64: Crashplan  It's a backup solution.
[02:30] <dr_willis> it would be a very weird service thats comes in binary form..
[02:30] <dr_willis> i would have to say read its docs..
[02:30] <xangua> wool: you can download ubuntu from ubuntu.com
[02:30] <flintser> bcbc2: no, but if you missed my earliel msg i said that i got it working with easybcd :) thanks
[02:30] <lmat> dr_willis: Okay.
[02:31] <bcbc2> flintser: yeah I saw that. Great! It looks like they are working on the problem.
[02:31] <flintser> good to know that it is a bug and not my error ;D bcbc2
[02:31] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Hey there, I am thinking of doing a raid 10 install of ubuntu, and I have some questions as to where I should put my raid 1 in this setup. I would also like to know if I can set this up raid via a live usb. check out my config https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmXdRsCSWUwWdGhlU1VINW1nVXZocUtPNzh6U3dObHc#gid=0
[02:31] <flintser> or maybe the error was using windows... but i need it for gaming
[02:32] <InFlames> Noorideen, you still need help?
[02:32] <wool> xangua: I use ubuntu to 4 years, what I want is to be able to buy objects, like shirts, mouse, backpack, pen drivers these things, I could not buy in the canonical site, so I wonder if in new york has a store or somewhere I can find these materials?
[02:33] <escott> Akiva-Thinkpad, what do you mean "where" to put the raid 1
[02:33] <bcbc2> flintser: yeah. I used easyBCD to try it out - it works okay - but I prefer grub
[02:33]  * dr_willis imagines new york has everything.. just finding it is the hard part..
[02:34] <Akiva-Thinkpad> escott: I am doing a raid 10. I have 4 harddrive disks that are different sizes. I want to use the excess space to create the redundant array. I was thinking of having the entire array on the 1500 gb hdd, however
[02:35] <Landrons> exit
[02:35] <Akiva-Thinkpad> I was unsure if that will negatively impact performance by having that much redundancy on one disk
[02:35] <Akiva-Thinkpad> again, here is what my setup looks like https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmXdRsCSWUwWdGhlU1VINW1nVXZocUtPNzh6U3dObHc#gid=0
[02:36] <escott> Akiva-Thinkpad, thats a nice staircase. what does it mean
[02:36] <flintser> bcbc2: now i'm just angry that i didnt stumble on that bug report. would've saved me a lot of time
[02:37] <tgunr> flintser: thanks heaps for the help, learning new nonmenclature
[02:37] <flintser> exactly the same problem
[02:37] <Akiva-Thinkpad> escott: so every harddrive is divisible by 250gb, therefore, I am partitioning every harddrive into 250 gb blocks
[02:37] <Akiva-Thinkpad> escott: and then using those partitions to make raids
[02:38] <Akiva-Thinkpad> escott: hmmm, okay, I am a dummy
[02:38] <escott> Akiva-Thinkpad, ok now i get what you are saying. you have one MD device across the common size and don't know what to do with the rest
[02:38] <tgunr> hmm, maybe my old 80gb drive will group now
[02:38] <Akiva-Thinkpad> escott: Basically
[02:38] <escott> Akiva-Thinkpad, (a) mdadm supports a special raid10 mode. you don't have to create raid0 and layer raid1 on top of that or vice versa
[02:38] <Akiva-Thinkpad> escott: I wanted to create redundancy on the 1500 gb, but was thinking maybe this might not be a good idea
[02:39] <Akiva-Thinkpad> it would atleast protect me if 3 of the 4 drives failed
[02:39] <escott> Akiva-Thinkpad, (b) for raid10 you do need 4 disks so your maximum array size is limited by the smallest of your four disks (ie the 250)
[02:39] <bcbc2> flintser: yeah some of the techniques are a bit dicy, but it does seem like it would have been easier. Were you using dynamic disks on Windows? Wondering how the LDM data got there in the first place
[02:39] <Akiva-Thinkpad> escott: Yes, I got that part, but that doesnt mean I can't use the rest,
[02:39] <Akiva-Thinkpad> right?
[02:40] <escott> Akiva-Thinkpad, it means you shouldn't
[02:40] <escott> Akiva-Thinkpad, yes you have 3 black blocks you need to fill. yes you have 3 black blocks you cannot seem to use on the big disk. no you should not use the three blocks from the big disk in the empty spaces
[02:41] <flintser> bcbc2: no, never. i know it is nothing but a call for problems :)
[02:41] <escott> Akiva-Thinkpad, you will pay for that with substantially slower access (due to all the seeks)
[02:41] <escott> Akiva-Thinkpad, and you are gaining NOTHING in redundancy. better to just run in degraded mode with an incomplete array, or use a different personality
[02:42] <Guest62871> hola
[02:42] <flintser> Akiva-Thinkpad: is that doc interactive? cool...
[02:42] <Akiva-Thinkpad> escott: what? If I put the 1 there, then I get the protection in case any of the 3 other disks fail
[02:42] <djthree> hola
[02:42] <aaas> is there any ubuntu-specific reason why a computer would reboot that anyone can think of(excluding hardware), after some apt-get upgrade or anything like that?
[02:43] <aaas> not by some user i mean
[02:43] <tgunr> linux has certainly matured since I last looked at it
[02:43] <aaas> something automatic
[02:43] <Guest82567> Hi, I'm looking for some guidance on underclocking.  I want to dial the heat way down, but my threads all have a lower "hardware limit" of 1.2GHz, and cpupower can't seem to take them lower.  Is that really a hard limit, or do I just need a stronger utility?
[02:44] <Dem0n> have you guys noticed how all developers especially operating system developers or window manager developers are trying to make everything look like a tablet?..
[02:44] <Dem0n> why is it that gnome3 has to look like a tablet?
[02:44] <Dem0n> why is it that windows 8 has to look like a tablet?...
[02:44] <xangua> !ot | Dem0n
[02:45] <Dem0n> so sensitive...
[02:45] <dr_willis> 'convergance'
[02:45] <aaas> MoPac|2 why do you need to underclock?
[02:45] <flintser> Dem0n: tablet is the future. and ot is in #ubuntu-offtopic. and i now noticed that i talk a lot of offtopic :(
[02:46] <MoPac|2> aaas: Vaio F series. Fan is highly antisocial
[02:46] <aaas> MoPac|2 this is a laptop? and it's overheating?
[02:46] <flintser> MoPac|2: wouldn't it be easier to get the fan working?
[02:47] <aaas> ^^^ agreed
[02:47] <MoPac|2> aaas: It's a laptop that's obsessed with *not* overheating and runs its fans like it's a hypersonic wind turbine.  No ability to control the fan through softwae
[02:47] <ktwohig9> I run Ubuntu on a VAIO F115 and the fan runs loud but it runs
[02:47] <MoPac|2> flintser: So only option left is to actually produce less heat
[02:47] <MoPac|2> Fan isn't broken -- fan is the opposite of broken: won't shut up
[02:47] <MoPac|2> and I don't need all this power much of the time
[02:48] <Dem0n> Dr_willis, and flinster, i agree
[02:48] <aaas> MoPac|2 it just seems like the wrong way to attack the problem (or you gave up to early on the fan)...but then again, I only heard about it 10 sec ago ;)
[02:48] <flintser> MoPac|2: if it is loud you must maintenance it. never met a loud mid-range laptop that is too loud
[02:48] <Dem0n> sorry for talking "off topic"
[02:48] <Bray90820> how would i make ever file in a samba share 777 and every file i add in the future automatically 777
[02:49] <MoPac|2> See http://vaio-utils.org/fan/ . Even somebody who created a whole program to control Vaio fans says this fan can't be controlled
[02:49] <MoPac|2> So: underclocking?
[02:49] <dr_willis> i dont see how that will make the fan run slower.
[02:50] <ktwohig9> MoPac - have you heard of vaiofand?
[02:50] <MoPac|2> ktwohig9: that link is to vaiofand
[02:50] <MoPac|2> Apparen't doesn't work on this model
[02:50] <ktwohig9> ah, was in other screen so didnt se eyour post
[02:50] <tgunr> Trying to get a development environment set up, trying `sudo apt-get -y install x-dev libx11-dev' results in 'unable to locate package x-dev', tried apt-get update, still error
[02:50] <MoPac|2> But I believe the fan is still responding to temp and not processor percentage
[02:51] <dr_willis> tgunr:  perhaps thats not the right name. ;)
[02:51] <df00z> Hey, I'm on 12.10.  I did regular updates the other day.  Upon reboot, X no longer starts.  I can ctrl-alt-fwhatever to a console fine.  I can even start X manually.
[02:51] <dr_willis> !info x-dev
[02:51] <tgunr> MoPac|2: on macs there are several temp sensors, i would imagine most use them
[02:51] <tgunr> hmm, ok re-reading
[02:51] <flintser> MoPac|2: have you tried cpufrequtils?
[02:51] <df00z> I guess I'm not sure where to even start troubleshooting this
[02:51] <MoPac|2> So I'd like to try to get the actual head output down.  My CPUs spend most all of their time at the lower "hardware limit" of 1.2GHz.  So I want to take it lower, but I don't know how to get around it
[02:52] <df00z> I installed xdm and started it, and I got into my desktop, but the fonts are all weird.  Everything is big.
[02:52] <df00z> But the resolution is right
[02:52] <MoPac|2> flintser: the successor to cpufrequtils, cpupower, can't take it below what it thinks is the "hardware limit" as far as I can tell
[02:52] <df00z> I guess, what desktop launcher\manager does xubuntu use?
[02:52] <MoPac|2> I try setting the limit to 1.1GHz as a test, but it still bottoms at 1.2
[02:52] <df00z> I am familiar with kdm, xdm, gdm, what is the default xubuntu one?
[02:52] <df00z> The problem is I am not even sure how to google the problem to begin knowing where ot look
[02:52] <dr_willis> df00z:  i think it uses lightdm
[02:53] <Bray90820> can someone help me it seems like every time i add a file to my samba share it is not 777
[02:53] <flintser> MoPac|2: if you don't want to go way deep i think that is the best you can do... not too many underclocking experts around ;D
[02:53] <Bray90820> how would i make it automatically 777 for every future file
[02:53] <df00z> so, lightdm isn't installed
[02:53] <Ben64> MoPac|2: you might be able to underclock in the bios
[02:54] <tgunr> I was following the instructions at http://software.jessies.org/salma-hayek/ubuntu-setup.html which indicated I need to ins all x-dev
[02:54] <MoPac|2> Ben64: Could the lower hardware limit that cpufrequtils/cpupower sees be just a BIOS setting that I can configure?  Or do you mean something else?
[02:55] <df00z> Like, the entire thing is freaking weird.  What is the weird graphical console thing it uses - plymonth?
[02:55] <Ben64> MoPac|2: since its a laptop it probably doesn't have the option, but on some you can change the cpu multiplier
[02:55] <df00z> like, the start screen doesn't even work right.  i always have a black screen till i do the hotkey to switch vts
[02:55] <aaas> MoPac|2  did you have this problem in windows when you first got it?
[02:55] <df00z> plymoth?
[02:56] <dr_willis> !plymouth
[02:56] <tgunr> originally triggered from trying to install emacs 24 which gave errs, "error: You seem to be running X, but no X development libraries"
[02:56] <MoPac|2> aaas: Yeah, always been a problem.  One of my hopes with switching to Linux is that I could get finer control
[02:56] <df00z> So, if the grapgical boot anim all of a sudden stopped after updating, and so did automatic X starting
[02:56] <df00z> is that a problem with plymoth?
[02:56] <MoPac|2> I think Sony got sued because of overheating issues and released a patch that told all the Vaios to become arctic tundras inside
[02:57] <dr_willis> tgunr:  you can have apt pull in most dev packages with the build-deps option.. ie:    sudo apt-get build-deps gedit
[02:57] <tgunr> cc, trying
[02:57] <holstein> df00z: i dont think you can assume that.. that could be graphics driver still
[02:57] <holstein> df00z: whats the issue?
[02:57] <Ben64> MoPac|2: you can open the computer up and fix it, but thats way beyond the scope of the channel
[02:57] <dr_willis> tgunr:  you can have apt pull in most dev packages with the build-deps option.. ie:    sudo apt-get build-deps gedit     it may be 'build-dep'  ;)
[02:57] <df00z> holstein: the issue is, after updating, X stopped launching, when powering on the machine all i get is a black screen until changing VTs
[02:57] <df00z> but I can launch X manually totally fine.
[02:57] <tgunr> cc
[02:58] <df00z> so the question is what starts X in xubuntyu
[02:58] <df00z> that is where i'd begin troubleshooting
[02:58] <Galaxor> Hi. I got a new desktop computer. I'm trying to install ubuntu 12.10 from a usb key. I need to do it uefi-style. It boots up just fine in legacy bios mode. Purple & everything. when I boot in uefi mode, I get an unadorned black-and-white grub screen and when it boots it just goes to black screen & does nothing. I tried the nomodeset thing I've seen suggested, to no effect. Also nolapic and acpi=off
[02:58] <dr_willis> !find xfdm
[02:58] <holstein> df00z: i would try booting an earlier kernel
[02:58] <MoPac|2> Ben64: Yeah, I was just hoping that there might be a way to get cpupower or else some similar utility to just ignore the hardware lower limit
[02:59] <Ben64> MoPac|2: its called a hardware limit for a reason
[02:59] <dr_willis> df00z:  #xubuntu may be able to tell you exactly also.
[02:59] <MoPac|2> I understand having upper limits for safety, but lower ones?  Sure, there could be some system instability, but could it actually hurt the machine to tell them to go at 600KHz?
[03:00] <Ben64> but it can't
[03:02] <MoPac|2> Ben64: Well, that's sort of my question.  Is it that it *can't* go below 1.2GHz per thread, or that it's not allowed to, but that disallowance is for no good reason?  The second part is: how do I ignore it?
[03:02] <aaas> MoPac|2  how often does it come on? how much load do you have to give it before it comes on
[03:02] <silverone> Hello! i'm compiling a kernel to get gpu switching. I'm following this kernel guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/GitKernelBuild  and am on step 6. i need to apply step 5 from this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2103743   could any of you gents help me?
[03:02] <MoPac|2> aaas: On constantly, rears up with very little load
[03:02] <Ben64> MoPac|2: i'm not sure you understand the meaning of "can't"
[03:02] <MoPac|2> aaas: If you googlle "vaio f fan" you'll find a world of angry frustrated people
[03:03] <MoPac|2> Ben64: I understand "can't" -- I don't understand if "hardware limit" really means "can't"
[03:04] <Galaxor> I'll see if systemrescuecd behaves the same way.
[03:04] <Ben64> MoPac|2: you can't.
[03:04] <MartynKeigher> hey, if i ssh into a ubunut server using winscp, how can i elevate to sudo su?
[03:05] <MartynKeigher> i need ot modify some files and i cant save them.
[03:05] <aaas> MoPac|2 then underclocking it isn't going to help you much, you'll have to drive it down far anyways.... might be better to try a hardware solution (new fan, oil, cleaning etc) ... or depending how annoying it is deal with it, or get a new laptop ;)
[03:05] <Ben64> MartynKeigher: don't use sudo su
[03:05] <dr_willis> MartynKeigher:  i dont think you do.  and it would be 'sudo'
[03:05] <flintser> MartynKeigher: root through ssh whoa...
[03:05] <flintser> MartynKeigher: use sudo
[03:05] <dr_willis> you can ssh in in as a user. then  use sudo
[03:05] <Ben64> MartynKeigher: just "sudo <command>" like "sudo nano <file>" or "sudo vim <file>"
[03:05] <MartynKeigher> but how do i INITIATE the elevation?
[03:05] <dr_willis> but sftp in i dont think you can
[03:05] <holstein> MartynKeigher: sudo should do it.. i use sudo -s
[03:05] <MartynKeigher> ah ok
[03:06] <dr_willis> use putty with winscp
[03:06] <MartynKeigher> sudo -s nautilus  ??
[03:06] <Ben64> nonono
[03:06] <holstein> MartynKeigher: ?
[03:06] <Ben64> don't use sudo -s either
[03:06] <MartynKeigher> k
[03:06] <holstein> MartynKeigher: gksudo nautilus.. but i thought you were in a shell?
[03:06] <MartynKeigher> sorry.
[03:06] <Ben64> MartynKeigher: start at the beginning, what are you trying to do?
[03:07] <dr_willis> he said hes using winSCP
[03:07] <Ben64> oh...
[03:07] <flintser> MartynKeigher: gksudo for graphical apps. and you need xforwarding. and why elevated nautilus?
[03:07] <dr_willis> so use winscp to copy files over. then putty and sudo from a termional to move things around that need root rights
[03:08] <Ben64> yep thats the correct way
[03:08] <MartynKeigher> i have a ubuntu VM, (at my office [im at home now]and to save me rdp'ing to it to do what i need to dom, i just want raw access to the file structure so i can modify some "non system core" files.
[03:08] <dr_willis> MartynKeigher:  is this over the interneta/ or a local  lan?
[03:08] <tix> ubuntu lol
[03:08] <tix> what a nub OS
[03:08] <DoYouKnow> ᑦeᔅᑦ
[03:08] <aaas> MoPac|2 here's someone trying hardware (different model)...better way to go imho: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgrm9RfYpsQ
[03:08] <silverone> Hello! i'm compiling a kernel to get gpu switching. I'm following this kernel guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/GitKernelBuild  and am on step 6. i need to apply step 5 from this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2103743   could any of you gents help me?
[03:08] <dr_willis> MartynKeigher:  you dont directly login as root via winscp. or putty
[03:08] <noorideen> how can i fix the permissions of /var/www ?
[03:08] <MartynKeigher> i can't copy paste between my desktop and the VM, but if i open the files via ssh, in notpad++ then i can.
[03:09] <MartynKeigher> this is on a provate vpn link to the office
[03:09] <MartynKeigher> the line is secure.
[03:09] <DoYouKnow> how big can an environment variable be in ubuntu?
[03:09] <DoYouKnow> in a bash script
[03:09] <flintser> noorideen: "sudo chmod 755 -R *"
[03:09] <flintser> or 775 if you want
[03:09] <DoYouKnow> and how do I change the maximum size temporarily?
[03:10] <MartynKeigher> the ubuntu server is joined ot the domain so i use my domain creds to logon, and thats not elevated. but if i rdp to it (or xrdp) then i can run eleveated via the terminal
[03:10] <noorideen> flintser, its not good to do 775 right?
[03:10] <Ben64> noorideen: depends
[03:10] <flintser> depends what you're doing
[03:10] <noorideen> i will just make php files and test them.
[03:11] <flintser> noorideen: i can already see youre doing some kind of lamp guide
[03:11] <MoPac|2> aaas: Thanks for the link
[03:11] <flintser> what it says in there?
[03:12] <noorideen> flintser, what it says?
[03:14] <flintser> what the guide says about permissions? you can use 775 safely for testing, it is not a big difference between 775 and 755 in www but every bit of extra security is needed sometimes.
[03:14] <rexwin_> ubottu
[03:14] <flintser> noorideen: ^
[03:15] <rexwin_> !
[03:15] <noorideen> flintser, i suppose that i dont need that in my level i am still learning. this is my 4rth day.
[03:15] <rexwin_> !help
[03:15] <rexwin_> !patience
[03:15] <flintser> rexwin_: you have a question?
[03:15] <packetfrog> !deathtotheinfidel
[03:16] <rexwin_> not at this time. just testing ubottu
[03:16] <flintser> !mastersudo gimme op
[03:16] <flintser> :|
[03:16] <rexwin_> 8-)
[03:17] <flintser> noorideen: yep, wordpress installation and customization is a good way to learn php and mysql basics and to create something useful at the same time
[03:18] <jeroth> Does anyone know of any good linux programs to monitor and notify of website changes?
[03:18] <silverone> Hello! i need to compile a kernel to enable gpu switching. I'm following this guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/GitKernelBuild and am on step 6. I need to do step 5 from this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2103743. Could any of you help me please :)
[03:18] <flintser> noorideen: also see phpmyadmin if you want even more, it is a webgui for mysql and makes things a lot easier ;)
[03:18] <noorideen> flintser, thank you for the advice, i will start of wordpress from tomorrow then :)
[03:19] <noorideen> flintser, thank you very much
[03:25] <silverone> Hello! i need to compile a kernel to enable gpu switching. I'm following this guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/GitKernelBuild and am on step 6. I need to do step 5 from this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2103743. Could any of you help me please :)
[03:27] <dbrom> Hello
[03:28] <packetfrog> olleh
[03:28] <dbrom> Id like to know how to split a tar file up into parts
[03:28] <flintser> i am building again, i watch system monitor and it says that only 1 of my cores is 100% and the rest of them are almost idle
[03:28] <flintser> why?
[03:29] <escott> flintser, make -k?
[03:29] <escott> flintser, sorry make -j
[03:29] <dbrom> because the tar file in total is more then 100 gigs
[03:31] <al__la> can anyone recommend a program to record video of desktop applications, or of the whole desktop?
[03:31] <fyksen> Hey! I'm testing out ubuntu tv in a VM. I used the instructions from /UbuntuTV/Contributing. When I try to push the "gear button" nothing happens..
[03:31] <flintser> escott: i'll try that next time, thx. why the number of jobs affect on which processor cores can be utilized?
[03:31] <bazhang> !info kazam | al__la
[03:32] <bazhang> fyksen, why not ask in #ubuntu-tv
[03:32] <al__la> bazhang, ubottu: thanks
[03:32] <fyksen> bazhang, I tried, nobody answers, so went for a "wildshot" here.
[03:32] <packetfrog> dbrom http://superuser.com/questions/290986/how-to-create-tar-archive-split-into-or-spanning-multiple-files
[03:32] <escott> flintser, because compiling runs in a single thread
[03:33] <packetfrog> dbrom: # man tar
[03:33] <dbrom> ok, does anyone use the commans listed here...
[03:35] <dbrom> ill try this doc and see where it takes me
[03:36] <sunya7a> hi guys...is there an alternative to yolk for ubuntu ?  it says unable to locate package yolk when i try apt-get install yolk on ubuntu server
[03:36] <moes> Ubuntu-12.04 I did a full install on a flash drive...Now I want to install from flash drive to my hard drive...I no longer have an install button...How can I do this install
[03:36] <sunya7a> not finding anything on google which is what makes me think maybe it's known under something else in ubuntu
[03:37] <bazhang> moes, installed to flash drive how? as an installer, or as an OS, ie using what method
[03:37] <moes> bazhang..As an os
[03:38] <bazhang> moes, then you need to re-do it.
[03:38] <bazhang> sunya7a, what does yolk do
[03:38] <bazhang> moes, try unetbootin
[03:38] <sunya7a> i'm reading in a guide that it lists all packages installed
[03:39] <bazhang> sunya7a, sounds like some 3rd party software, as in, from a PPA
[03:39] <moes> bazhang..I have a cd just trying to save all configurations
[03:39] <sunya7a> bazhang: hm...okay...i'll find something else...thanks
[03:40] <packetfrog> sunya7a  http://pypi.python.org/packages/source/y/yolk/yolk-0.4.3.tar.gz
[03:40] <bazhang> moes, you need the iso for unetbootin
[03:40] <packetfrog> yolk is for finding python modules/packages that are installed i guess.   Does not seem to have a package built for ubuntu   just gentoo
[03:41] <sunya7a> packetfrog: cool...i'll download from python page...thanks packetfrog didn't realize it was python specific...
[03:42] <packetfrog> sunya7a there site says they want people to make packages for other distros    they just use gentoo though so thats it or source..
[03:44] <sunya7a> packetfrog : thanks..i'll try compiling from source
[03:46] <sunya7a> packetfrog: easy_install did the trick =P   thanks for your help
[03:46] <StahlGrau> halp
[03:47] <StahlGrau> anyone around to help with a dual boot problem?
[03:47] <StahlGrau> anyone?
[03:48] <tgunr> is emacs24 not available on unbent? I don't see it in apt-cache (presuming that is where I should be looking)
[03:48] <bazhang> StahlGrau, ask the real question
[03:48] <tgunr> ubent=ubuntu
[03:48] <bazhang> tgunr, version 24 is newer?
[03:49] <thiebaude> StahlGrau, what is your question?
[03:49] <StahlGrau> I just installed ubuntu alongside windows7 and am now getting a "secure boot forbids booting.." error when trying to boot back into windows
[03:49] <StahlGrau> i have 4 partitions
[03:49] <tgunr> i would presume so
[03:49] <thiebaude> StahlGrau, you installed windows 7 after ubuntu?
[03:49] <StahlGrau> no, ubuntu after windows
[03:49] <tgunr> i see emacs23
[03:49] <thiebaude> ahh ok
[03:50] <bazhang> !info emacs24 | tgunr
[03:50] <flintser> StahlGrau: disable secureboot from bios if there is a setting for that
[03:50] <thiebaude> StahlGrau, i am not sure about your problem, wished I could of helped you :)
[03:50] <StahlGrau> sda1 windows boot, sda2 windows main, sda5 ubuntu boot, sda6 ubuntu root
[03:50] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Which setup of raid will give me the best read/write performance out of all the listed : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmXdRsCSWUwWdGhlU1VINW1nVXZocUtPNzh6U3dObHc#gid=0 ( I made some extras since last time )
[03:50] <StahlGrau> i have disabled secure
[03:51] <tgunr> ok, if it is optional, how do i get it if it is not in apt-get
[03:51] <Bubo> ubuntu just changed my language to CHINESE
[03:51] <Bubo> what?
[03:51] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Is the one at line 50 even possible?
[03:51] <bazhang> tgunr, it available in 12.10; are you not on 12.10
[03:51] <flintser> StahlGrau: try enabling then, maybe it is a stupid question like "do you want to enable booting if it is not safe"
[03:52] <StahlGrau> I shall try
[03:52] <tgunr> i thought i had the latest as I just downloaded it yesterday, checking
[03:52] <Bubo> Any idea why my ubuntu language changed to Chinese?
[03:52] <bazhang> tgunr, have you updated your system since installing?
[03:52] <bazhang> Bubo, check the ibus configuration launch keys
[03:53] <tgunr> did that earlier today from the software app
[03:53] <Bubo> bazhang:  how can I check that? It's in chinese
[03:53] <flintser> tgunr: updating trough gui: update-manager. through terminal: sudo apt-get install upgrade
[03:53] <Bubo> I don't mean my keyboard, I mean my whole ubuntu.. menus, folders (like pictures, downloads)
[03:53] <StahlGrau> flintser: apparently i just have a choice between windows and "other os" for scure boot
[03:53] <tgunr> cc, checking
[03:53] <bazhang> Bubo, this is ylmfOS?
[03:54] <lunitik> StahlGrau: what does Other OS do?
[03:54] <Bubo> bazhang:  I don't understand?
[03:54] <flintser> tgunr: sorry it is not apt-get install upgrade, it is just apt-get upgrade
[03:54] <StahlGrau> lunitik: i think it took away one error message, but now it still won't boot
[03:54] <flintser> StahlGrau: does it matter what you choose?
[03:54] <bazhang> Bubo, you would have to select that. a system does not change to another language without intervention
[03:55] <Bubo> bazhang:  it seems it did. I haven't changed my language to chinese. I haven't used my ubuntu 2 days. It was fine the last time I used it..
[03:55] <StahlGrau> flintser: now i get an invalid efi file path
[03:55] <StahlGrau> error
[03:55] <bazhang> Bubo, so change it back
[03:55] <lunitik> StahlGrau: "won't boot" is not clear, what is it saying? I have recently been fighting UEFI and never won, just brought a new custom built machine to get around whatever Microsoft is doing.
[03:56] <tgunr> did you not see nightly news tonight? the chienese hackers are on a roll
[03:56] <flintser> StahlGrau: in grub boot or windows boot?
[03:56] <StahlGrau> lunitik: I get "error: invalid EFI file path."
[03:56] <StahlGrau> in grub
[03:56] <martian> Is there any sort of smartphone-like autocomplete for ubuntu? Like, something that would work in browser text fields, etc?
[03:56] <tgunr> yeas , on 12.04
[03:56] <StahlGrau> I've also booted into ubuntu and run "update-grub"
[03:56] <flintser> well, then you have to change it back so you can at least get ubuntu to work.
[03:56] <Bubo> bazhang:  it's in chinese. I have no idea which one is "English". BUt I picked one, let's see what happens
[03:57] <StahlGrau> to no avail
[03:57] <lunitik> StahlGrau: That is something I haven't encountered, did you create a separate /boot partition? Is this reflected in the path you've set in grub?
[03:57] <StahlGrau> lunitik: it should be
[03:57] <StahlGrau> lunitik: i installed without swap because I have more than enough ram and an ssd
[03:58] <StahlGrau> lunitik: so i only have a windows boot and main and an ubuntu boot and main
[03:58] <flintser> i solved windows not booting by using easybcd and doing boot into windows mbr first and then from there to grub
[03:58] <StahlGrau> flintser: that would be nice, but I currently can't access my windows partition
[03:59] <flintser> so its like when choosing different windowses but it says windows 7 or ubuntu 12.10, if i choose windows it goes to win, if i choose ubuntu it goes to grub
[03:59] <StahlGrau> flintser: i would have done that if i couldnt see ubuntu
[04:00] <Bubo> increasing "sensitivity" in the mouse options doesn't increase my mouse speed
[04:00] <Bubo> pointer speed*
[04:00] <Bubo> it does nothing
[04:00] <flintser> i installed lilo and did "sudo lilo -M \dev\sda mbr" to get windows booting. it boots straight to windows and no grub is seen, from there i did the easybcd to get ubuntu-option back
[04:01] <flintser> StahlGrau: ^
[04:01] <StahlGrau> flintser: haha that sounds archaic
[04:02] <flintser> but mine problem was different, relating to ldm
[04:02] <StahlGrau> flintser: I was hoping there was a way to modify grub
[04:03] <StahlGrau> flintser: thanks for the idea
[04:03] <packetfrog> I have lost my sound and cant seem to get it back.
[04:03] <flintser> StahlGrau: there is, but you'd need to know if the problem is solvable by configuring. you can also try to reinstall the grub if you want. get live-usb and boot it. then install boot-repair for easy gui thingy
[04:04] <tgunr> I did a apt-get upgrade, restart, still at 12.04
[04:04] <packetfrog> what could a reinstall on ubuntustudio to get it going?
[04:04] <lunitik> StahlGrau: if you have a liveCD available, you can try mounting the boot partition and editing it like that
[04:04] <tgunr> ah, its update-manager -d
[04:04] <bazhang> tgunr, upgrade wont upgrade versions
[04:04] <Malsasa> Hello, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12518579#post12518579 <<< How to Write Correct copyright File?
[04:04] <CavalierPrime> StahlGrau  burn bootrepair live cd, makes it easy
[04:04] <StahlGrau> booting into it now
[04:04] <flintser> tgunr: i think if you want 12.10 you can do dist-upgrade
[04:05] <bazhang> !dist-upgrade | flintser
[04:05] <flintser> bazhang: thanks for correctiong
[04:05] <bazhang> flintser, dist-upgrade wont change versions...
[04:05] <lunitik> StahlGrau: there is also a utility called boot-repair in the repos specifically for UEFI issues
[04:05] <lunitik> StahlGrau: again, can be used from livecd
[04:05] <flintser> dist-upgrde just confuses me all the time
[04:05] <bazhang> tgunr, you should read the upgrade guide
[04:05] <bazhang> !upgrade | tgunr
[04:05] <flintser> like distribution-upgrade ^^
[04:05] <StahlGrau> yeah i dont have the bootrepair cd
[04:05] <tix> umad??
[04:06] <lunitik> Note that UEFI doesn't do MBR, it uses GPT instead
[04:06] <bazhang> tix, why would we be
[04:06] <tgunr> using update-manager now
[04:06] <StahlGrau> but i am booting the regular one
[04:07] <lunitik> StahlGrau: you can install it on the Live Session
[04:07] <StahlGrau> what is the package name?
[04:08] <lunitik> StahlGrau: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[04:08] <StahlGrau> ty
[04:08] <lunitik> StahlGrau: note "second option"
[04:10] <Malsasa> all: how to fill copyright file in Ubuntu package? My package not shown the license in USC when I open it. Whereas, I fill it with same copyright as another DEB has. Another deb I got from official repo.
[04:10] <tgunr> guess i will be here for a while, 772MB download for 12.10
[04:11] <bazhang> Malsasa, creating your own package? why would you need to do that
[04:11] <Malsasa> bazhang: i wanna learn Debian packaging ;)
[04:12] <bazhang> Malsasa, prehaps you could ask in #ubuntu-packaging
[04:12] <Malsasa> bazhang: I need it for distributing an app to my friends in Indonesua
[04:12] <bady_> kernel 3.5 to 3.8?dirtory?
[04:12] <Malsasa> bazhang: i've asked there and no answer yet, since yesterday :)
[04:12] <Malsasa> bazhang: but thank you so much...
[04:12] <bazhang> bady_, dirtory? whats that
[04:12] <bady_> kernel
[04:13] <bazhang> bady_, try to use a complete sentence with real words
[04:13] <lunitik> bady_: Do you have a particular reason you want to update kernel?
[04:13] <bady_> yes
[04:13] <bady_> 3.5 to 3.8?
[04:13] <lunitik> bady_: something on your current system isn't working?
[04:14] <bazhang> bady_, what is your exact question
[04:14] <lunitik> bady_: what is your native language?
[04:15] <lsrline_> Am I doing something wrong here http://pastebin.com/vxdUxzj3 ... having trouble mounting my usb drive
[04:16] <lsrline_> hah, nvm forgot the 1
[04:18] <bady_> can update directly kernel 3.5 to 3.8
[04:18] <flintser> bady_ where are you from?
[04:18] <bady_> China
[04:18] <bazhang> bady_, thats not supported here. what version of ubuntu are you on
[04:19] <bazhang> bady_, 3.8 was released TOday.
[04:19] <flintser> !cn | bady_
[04:21] <root> hi
[04:22] <bady_> !cn | body
[04:22] <bazhang>  /join #ubuntu-cn   <------ bady_
[04:23] <flintser> whops, i made wrong tab complete
[04:25] <flintser> no i didn't! maybe it is time to go to sleep.. no i cant do that either i'll have to be @ work in 2 hours ._. its 6:24 AM... no sleep x_x OT is best and silence
[04:27] <df00z> anyone use the ubuntu pptp client?  Does it work OK?  For some reason, for me, it's really slow
[04:27] <df00z> Like, I have a laptop here, physically linux installed.  I connect to a VPN, load a web page, takes a while to load.
[04:27] <df00z> If I do it on the mac here, it's fast.  If I do it in a Ubuntu VM on the mac, with bridge network connectivity, it's slow.  If I pass through network and let the mac do the VPN handling it's fast
[04:27] <df00z> I installed a DNS caching service in ubuntu and it's faster, but still no where near as fast
[04:28] <df00z> im wondering what to look at for performance
[04:28] <bazhang> df00z, had a look at htop or some of the other 'top' apps for that?
[04:28] <bazhang> !find iotop
[04:29] <df00z> i mean, firefox is just sitting there, waiting for hulu.jp
[04:29] <df00z> top shows like no cpu usage
[04:29] <StahlGrau> lunitik: flintser: now im getting a file not found error for it
[04:33] <df00z> like, ok, i just did ping hulu.com, it took over a minute to reply, but when it did, the time only said 454ms
[04:33] <df00z> and ctrl C did not break out
[04:35] <liam1895> hey guys
[04:35] <liam1895> can anybody here help me?
[04:35] <bazhang> liam1895, whats the real question
[04:37] <liam1895> p11-kit: couldn't load module: /usr/lib/pkcs11/gnome-keyring-pkcs11.so: /usr/lib/pkcs11/gnome-keyring-pkcs11.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:37] <liam1895> im trying to wineprefix to 32
[04:37] <liam1895> also
[04:37] <liam1895> err:winediag:SECUR32_initNTLMSP ntlm_auth was not found or is outdated. Make sure that ntlm_auth >= 3.0.25 is in your path. Usually, you can find it in the winbind package of your distribution.
[04:37] <liam1895> @bazhang
[04:38] <pavs> ubuntu installed on macbook, how do I remove the app icon from launcher?
[04:38] <bazhang> liam1895, winbind? isnt that a windows thing?
[04:38] <pavs> right click doesnt work
[04:38] <liam1895> yehh I guess its needed for WINE
[04:38] <bazhang> liam1895, what app in wine
[04:38] <liam1895> not a specific app
[04:38] <liam1895> im running 64 bit WINE
[04:38] <Cfhowlett> Ping
[04:39] <bazhang> liam1895, ask in #winehq
[04:39] <liam1895> but i want to run 32 bit
[04:39] <liam1895> ok cheers
[04:39] <bazhang> pavs, in unity?
[04:40] <pavs> bazhang yes the launcher on the left side, is it called unity now?
[04:40] <bazhang> pavs, gnome-shell has one as well, thus the question
[04:40] <pavs> oh ok
[04:40] <tolpico> Hi, I updated my Ubuntu 12.10 gues inside Virtualbox. Now Virtualboxs seamless mode is not working. How can I restore seamles functionality again?
[04:41] <bazhang> tolpico, update to the lastest kernel modules for it?
[04:41] <pavs> any idea how to remove the icons from the launcher on mackbook, since it doesn't have a right click option, any keyboard shortcut?
[04:41] <chadwin> hi guysssss
[04:41] <Cfhowlett> Reinstall guest additions
[04:42] <bazhang> pavs, it would be helpful if you told us whether this was unity, gnome-shell or something other
[04:42] <tolpico> bazhang: No, but forgot what the package names for the kernels are. Any idea where I could get the package names to install?
[04:43] <demkantor> hey linux experts, anyone care to help a noob
[04:44] <bazhang> demkantor, ask the channel a real question
[04:44] <bazhang> tolpico, what about guest addtions as Cfhowlett suggested
[04:44] <demkantor> :) thanks bazhang! i have been playing with linux for a few years now as a dual booter but have never realy gotten into it
[04:45] <killer> what is the rhythmbox version in repositories of ubuntu 10.04
[04:45] <demkantor> im trying to now but things are way slow! like bogs down and freezes alot
[04:45] <pavs> bazhang: http://i.imgur.com/pg5p6Sc.png
[04:45] <demkantor> i was wondering why and google isnt helping much
[04:46] <demkantor> my curent build is ubuntu 12.10 and its 64bit on a i3 3.20ghz x4 with 4gib ram
[04:47] <tolpico> bazhang: trying to install guest additions again, will update on the status shortly
[04:47] <bazhang> 0.12.8-0ubuntu7   <---- killer
[04:48] <bazhang> pavs, thats unity, just dragging it off should do. or perhaps alt-drag
[04:48] <m000gle> Is there any way to adjust the spacing of legacy system tray icons (Skype, X-Chat and Pidgin for example) in Ubuntu/Unity 12.10? ... I would like to add a few pixels between each icon, to make it more consistent with the appindicators.
[04:49] <Euro123> howdy from Oklahoma
[04:50] <killer> thnx :bazhang
[04:51] <demkantor> maybe freenode isnt the best place for such a general question but ive been trying everything i can figure out to make this faster, win 7 runs smooth on this machine and i feel even with unity ubuntu 12.10 should run as well as w7, i would really like to just drop windows but untill i can get this os moving along i feel i have to stay a dualbooter. should i move on to some forums and ask this or does anyone have a suggestion?
[04:51] <bazhang> demkantor, what about running it in a vm
[04:51] <thiebaude> ^^
[04:51] <demkantor> still seems slow
[04:52] <Euro123> demkantor, is it freezing up - I saw something about that
[04:52] <bazhang> demkantor, is this a real dual boot, or a wubi install
[04:52] <Euro123> demkantor:  if freezing up: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1995945
[04:53] <demkantor> yeah it pauses when i do almost anything, but random, this is a third instal, this time on a seperate internal hardrive just for linux
[04:53] <Euro123> I think the freezing up issue is related to built in video card on Intel Z77 chipset
[04:53] <demkantor> thanks euro123, i think i read that one already but ill check again
[04:53] <Euro123> okay, np
[04:54] <pavs> bazhang: dragging with control key worked. Thanks!
[04:54] <tolpico> bazhang: When I try to reinstall Virtualbox Guest additions, I get this error http://sprunge.us/PJWS Where can I find sources for my kernel 3.5.0-23-generic?
[04:54] <BHX> When /sbin/dhclient messes up with a wifi connection in a laptop....does it mean I have to pretty much do a fresh install? ...shut laptop and when I re-openned it to bring it out of hibernation the connection wouldn't connect anymore
[04:54] <demkantor> lets say i open a new tab in firefox, if i have system monitor open ill see cpu2 jump to 100% during the freeze and the other cores spike too
[04:55] <demkantor> bazhang, they have all been wubi installed, is this not cool?
[04:55] <bazhang> BHX, of course you dont need to reinstall for that
[04:56] <bazhang> demkantor, that would certainly be a factor in speed, yes
[04:57] <demkantor> huh, so after inital instalation i am slowed how? just not sure why this would be the case
[04:57] <BHX> didn't know because I've not found a fix yet....shows my router in the connection list and shows full strength, but when connecting to it just tries then stops...everything else works on it as apparent by me posting this from my desktop wifi
[04:57] <bazhang> demkantor, wubi is installed to a file inside windows
[04:57] <Euro123> demkantor, I moved off of wubi install to an install on an actual partition with ext4 file system - but honestly don't remember why I needed to do that at this point.
[04:57] <Euro123> I think I couldn't install the graphics drivers
[04:58] <Euro123> I don't want to muddy the water, but I arrived here tonight after four days of troubleshooting a 12.10 installation.  I have an i7 3770K CPU, AMD Radeon HD 7700 graphics, and installed 12.10 AMD64.
[04:58] <demkantor> really, so linux has an issue reading off ntfs then? i believe only system is on this while i have made ext4 partions and fat32 for some other stuff as well as about 1gib of swap (i changed swappiness to 10 though)
[04:59] <Euro123> When I installed AMD Catalyst drivers, Unity disappeared.
[05:00] <BHX> not been my week for ubuntu ....on desktop I upgraded to 12.10 just for it to freeze mid installation forcing me to shutdown the computer so now i have no ubuntu on desktop and steam messed up my laptop and now dhclient won't let me connect
[05:00] <Euro123> demkantor, when I setup a new partition during 12.10 install, it didn't want NTFS or FAT32.  It wanted EXT4 or EXT3
[05:00] <demkantor> my gpu is built in and ive been digging to see if i need some other drivers but cant find anything that looks needed
[05:00] <bazhang> demkantor, its not that, even the wubi creators say its more of a "test-drive" and not a full time solution
[05:00] <Euro123> crap BHX
[05:00] <BHX> I can go into recovery mode on desktop but doesn't appear to do me much good heh
[05:01] <DoYouKnow> Euro123: you should be able to hit a key at bootup, maybe F7, to enter a recovery mode
[05:01] <Euro123> BHX, can you re-install on top of it?
[05:01] <demkantor> oh, this make sense, so if i wipe again and then do a true dual boot (put system direct to ext4) then it be smoother in theory?
[05:01] <Euro123> demkantor, I believe so.
[05:01] <DoYouKnow> Euro123: can you post your Xorg desktop settings?
[05:02] <demkantor> bahzhang and euro123, thanks i will try. - quick side though, 4gib of ddr3 ram and a i3 should be pletny good enough for 12.10 right?
[05:02] <gnuskool> haha, its een a while since i loooked at an xorg config file
[05:02] <BHX> yeah I can re-install 12.04, but I hate to because how much code I would lose.....right now I'm trying to save my laptop as it is my current coding computer lately
[05:02] <demkantor> *bazhang sorry
[05:03] <DoYouKnow> Euro123: nvidia-xconfig should have a dump command
[05:03] <Euro123> thx DoYouKnow - I don't have access to it right now because I've booted into the windows side for a bit of respite and intense research :(
[05:03] <bazhang> demkantor, way more than ample specs
[05:03] <thiebaude> demkantor, plenty, i have 2gb on this desktop
[05:03] <DoYouKnow> "nvidia-xconfig -t"
[05:03] <DoYouKnow> oh hmm
[05:03] <gnuskool> bhx, if your work is in the home partition, save that, then reinstall the os
[05:03] <Euro123> DoYouKnow, I have AMD Radeon graphics on this one.
[05:03] <DoYouKnow> that doesn't seem to work
[05:03] <DoYouKnow> ohhhh AMD
[05:04] <demkantor> so pretty much unanimous that i need to unistall my wubi install and start fresh
[05:04] <DoYouKnow> Euro123: I'm not familiar with AMD
[05:04] <DoYouKnow> on ubuntu
[05:04] <thiebaude> demkantor, i would agree with that
[05:04] <DoYouKnow> *AMD graphics
[05:04] <bazhang> BHX, you certainly dont need to reinstall just for a dhclient issue; if you are set on doing so for other reasons not yet mentioned, just indicate in the installer to preserver /home
[05:05] <Euro123> heh, I'm super rusty with ubuntu, so we're even :)
[05:05] <gnuskool> bhx, when you reinstall remount your home partition - job done, I do this every release
[05:05] <thiebaude> Euro123, i use that on my laptop, did not need to install the drivers
[05:05] <Euro123> I just hated to install the graphics proprietary drivers and lose the whole environment - luckily I googled control-alt-t to find a terminal, felt like I was flying blind
[05:06] <Euro123> thiebaude, 12.10 installed and looked nice, without the drivers, but I wanted to install the drivers for some games
[05:06] <demkantor> thanks all, one last quick question, should i make a seperate parttion just for system, and if so how large you think? the second drive i just installed is 1tb and i want it all just for linux so i can do whatever to it
[05:07] <thiebaude> Euro123, i had to install the nvidia drivers on the desktop though
[05:08] <Ez0v3rR1d3> having trouble with my wireless router any ideas what i should do when i have it hooked up properly and it not registering at all
[05:08] <Euro123> demkantor, I think you will want most of it for EXT4 (put / for root) and then some for swap on a separate partition - I'm not sure the recommended amount these days.  I would randomly guess 1 or 2 gigabytes, but you may want to ask these fine folks or google that.
[05:08] <psomodi> Hi everyone.
[05:08] <Euro123> hi psomodi
[05:08] <psomodi> I'm having troubles to boot my 12.04 live cd.
[05:09] <gnuskool> Ez0v3rR1d3: sounds like proprietory driver issue
[05:09] <baftest> hi
[05:09] <Ez0v3rR1d3> how i fix the proprierory
[05:09] <Euro123> hi baftest
[05:09] <psomodi> Anyone have an extrange problem like this? when I get into unetbootin screen, if I choose try before install, I see Ubuntu 12.04 splashscreen for a few seconds, and then my laptop's backlights get off
[05:10] <Euro123> anyone running AMD Radeon with 12.10 or even 12.04?
[05:10] <demkantor> right on, always love the real time help from freenode, you all rock! ill see you again im sure once my new ubuntu is installed (4th time yeah) godd night/day/afternoon, see ya!
[05:10] <psomodi> and I tried with nomodeset option and that doesn't fixed it
[05:10] <thiebaude> Euro123, on my laptop i am
[05:10] <Euro123> best wishes demkantor
[05:10] <thiebaude> 4250 hd graphics
[05:10] <thiebaude> but they are not installed
[05:11] <Euro123> okay thiebaude - just my experience, you may want to hold off on installing them, however I read that it may run hot without them.
[05:12] <thiebaude> Euro123, i decided not to install them because it looked great and no other problems
[05:12] <DoYouKnow> psomodi: Ctrl+Alt+F1, then type "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | tail -n 7"
[05:12] <BHX> didn't know you could perserve the /home partition...thought the installer forced you to overwrite the whole hard drive :o
[05:12] <DoYouKnow> psomodi: see if anything of interest shows up, any errors
[05:12] <DoYouKnow> psomodi: or Warnings
[05:13] <DoYouKnow> psomodi: after you log in
[05:13] <BHX> I just don't know what to google for in order to fix the dhclient issue since it happened after the laptop went into hibernation mode and upon coming out of that because I was online before hibernation mode
[05:13] <DoYouKnow> forgot to mention, you should get a login prompt first, psomodi
[05:14] <psomodi> DoYouKnow: thks for your answer. My problem is very earlier... :s
[05:14] <psomodi> I can't get passed the splash screen of live CD
[05:14] <DoYouKnow> you should be able to do this at the splash screen
[05:15] <DoYouKnow> just hold down Ctrl+Alt+F1
[05:15] <psomodi> with splash screen I mean Ubuntu 12.04 and the four dots..
[05:15] <DoYouKnow> psomodi: then it goes blank?
[05:16] <psomodi> yap
[05:16] <psomodi> very wierdM54SR
[05:17] <DoYouKnow> psomodi: the symptoms your describing indicate your Xorg display driver failed to set the correct display mode, or your driver is incompatible
[05:17] <psomodi> yeah I believe that you are wright
[05:17] <Euro123> night guys
[05:18] <psomodi> but i don't know how to fix it when unetbootin pass parameters to kernel
[05:18] <psomodi> I tried with nomodeset, acpi_osi=... etc... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[05:18] <BHX> curious if there is a file that messed up that dhclient is reading that i can rename to fix it or what as I'm not finding a fix for my particular problem :/
[05:18] <psomodi> but with no success
[05:19] <dr_willis> unetbootin uses the sysconfig menus to configure the booting i belive. thers some config files on the usb you can edit
[05:20] <rudedogg> I installed chrubuntu, and my keyboard/mouse isn't working.  Any idea on how to boot into a terminal so I can fix it?
[05:22] <thepickingpairLi> Hello everyone! im not sure if im in the right place to ask this, but ill give it a shot. new ubuntu user migrating from win7, installing nvidia driver and the box is periodically going grey and the install has been going on for 30 minutes - somethign FUBAR'd? suggestions?
[05:22] <zach__> hey guys
[05:22] <zach__> i have a problem
[05:23] <zach__> i just installed ubuntu 12.4.2 and i have a touchscreen ultrabook. How can i enable touchscreen scrolling in firefox and chrome?
[05:27] <dr_willis> rudedogg: do they work at the grub menu?
[05:29] <rudedogg> dr_willis, I dont think so, it just starts booting right away
[05:31] <rj1> hi...anybody here knows the problem why can't i create a makefile?
[05:31] <rj1> error is no available c compiler in $PATH
[05:32] <dr_willis> so install the c comoiler packages
[05:32] <dr_willis> !info build-essential
[05:32] <Alfirus> hello
[05:32] <dr_willis> rudedogg:  press and  hold shift as system boots -  to see the grub menu. You might  need ot check the bios and  enable legacy usb support
[05:33] <Alfirus> anyone alive?
[05:33] <dr_willis> 1000+ people here
[05:33] <Alfirus> lol... i mean not afk
[05:33] <dante466> Hey dudes
[05:33] <dr_willis> you want 500+ people to say yes? ;)
[05:34] <dr_willis> !ask
[05:37] <Alfirus> i'm new in Ubuntu. I downloaded the latest version at ubuntu.com. Burned the ISO correctly, and i can see my desktop boot the Ubuntu, but at the end, it shows Sync Out of range. I already do advance option by pressing f6 and add "vga=300" without the " and yet, don't have luck
[05:38] <dr_willis> tried the nomodeset option?
[05:38] <Alfirus> "1:38:05 PM - dr_willis: tried the nomodeset option?" - trying it now. do i have to do vga=300 also?
[05:39] <dr_willis> im not even sure the vga=xxx is a valid option these days
[05:39] <dr_willis> try just nomodeset
[05:39] <BHXSpecter> I figured out the connection...I simply deleted all connections, rebooted computer, then re-entered the information...thankfully it worked
[05:39] <Alfirus> "dr_willis try just nomodeset" trying rite now
[05:41] <BHXSpecter> now, as for my desktop, all my code and files I've done (on both desktop and laptop) are in /home and you said there was a way to install a fresh ubuntu without having the installer touch /home? I really wasn't aware you could do that as I thought you had to tell it where to install everything including /home for the fresh install..is there a site that explains the steps so I don't botch it up?
[05:42] <dr_willis> when in doubt... backup your files first
[05:43] <dr_willis> having /home on its own partion makes reinstalls a lot easier also
[05:44] <killer> when i do  ./configure...it says ur intltool is too old
[05:45] <dr_willis> you tell the installer to not format /home if its on its own partition
[05:46] <Alfirus> dr_willis, done nomodeset, and still sync out of range. any other option?
[05:46] <BHXSpecter> I think I have home in its own partition....can't remember, but that is what I was always told to do ....just can't recall if I did it on both the desktop and laptop or just desktop
[05:46] <dr_willis> Alfirus: what chipset
[05:46] <Alfirus> intel
[05:46] <dr_willis> Alfirus: that is odd. you could try the 12.04 alternative cd installee.
[05:47] <dr_willis> !alt
[05:47] <dr_willis> heh. i rhink 12.04 had the alt cd.
[05:48] <Alfirus> "1:46:57 PM - dr_willis: Alfirus: that is odd. you could try the 12.04 alternative cd installee." - i'm double checking the chipset
[05:49] <save> hi, i need to create online presentation where i should share my linux desktop. are there any tools like join.me working on linux?
[05:51] <swampy> Hi, my keyboard multimedia keys show up correctly with showkeys and in acpi_listen, however they never seem to reach X, xev does not show them.. no XF86Audio*, however XF86MonBrightness works, any idea how I get them to X?
[05:53] <packetfrog> Any tutorials on optimizing ubuntu with an ssd? I have an 80gb ssd just sitting idle in my laptop as I am not sure how to most effectively use it.
[05:55] <Abhijit> packetfrog, nothing much difference. just install ubuntu regularly on ssd. instead of hdd.
[05:56] <packetfrog> Wont that ruin my ssd with read/writes?
[05:56] <dr_willis> askubuntu.com has some tips also on ssd drives
[05:56] <dr_willis> reading and writing is what a hd is for.
[05:57] <packetfrog> Well like in windows I moved over specific folders to my hdd to avoid excessive writes.
[05:57] <Alfirus> dr_willis, chipset as you mentioned, mean processor rite? If yes, then it confirmed intel and the installation iso is ubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386. do you mind upload the 12.04 by using torrent? I need to up the cpu. ubottu, where can i report the bug? please provide url.
[05:57] <dr_willis> dont put /tmp on it. put that in ram ;-)
[05:57] <packetfrog> so on ubuntustudio I just put my /boot on ssd
[05:57] <packetfrog> How do i put /tmp in ram?
[05:57] <dr_willis> Alfirus:  the video chipser. not the man cpu
[05:57] <dr_willis> main cpu
[05:58] <dr_willis> you make a fstab entry to put /tmp in ram
[05:58] <Alfirus> dr_willis, it is SIS
[05:58] <arun> how to use handsfree service of bluetooth with my phone and laptop
[05:59] <dr_willis> Alfirus:  sis? egads..  sis is he worst  chipset a linux box could ever have.
[05:59] <SuperLag> dr_willis: why do you say that?
[05:59] <dr_willis> Alfirus:  you need to determins the exact sis chipset
[05:59] <dr_willis> SuperLag:  because they are rarely/barely supported or work
[05:59] <SuperLag> interesting
[05:59] <dr_willis> even under windows.. sis sort of stinks big time
[06:00] <magn3ts> Can someone help me report a bug against the linux-3.8 kernel?
[06:00] <SuperLag> I used them in the early days... and I had no issues.
[06:00] <magn3ts> I don't know how to?
[06:00] <dr_willis> early days like back when we had Voodoo 3dfx cards? ;)
[06:00] <deep_in> Hi i have been trying to install ubuntu landscape server on my own lab using this link https://help.landscape.canonical.com/LDS/QuickStart  now i am getting error in steps 6 please help me
[06:00] <SuperLag> dr_willis: SiS 6326 days.
[06:01] <dr_willis> magn3ts:  how are you using that kernel?
[06:01] <Alfirus> dr_willis, it is SIS 962L
[06:01] <dr_willis> Alfirus:  i sugget hitting the ubuntu forums and askubuntu.com to see if that card is supported at all.
[06:02] <arun> how to use handsfree service of bluetooth with my phone and laptop
[06:02] <Alfirus> thanks dr_willis
[06:02] <dr_willis> i would not be suprised if its unsupported
[06:03] <arun> how to use handsfree service of bluetooth with my phone and laptop
[06:03] <arun> how to use handsfree service of bluetooth with my phone and laptop
[06:03] <arun> how to use handsfree service of bluetooth with my phone and laptop
[06:03] <arun> how to use handsfree service of bluetooth with my phone and laptop
[06:03] <FloodBot1> arun: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:03] <dr_willis> and thats one way to get ignored.../kicked
[06:04] <killer> what should i do intl-tools is too old
[06:05] <dr_willis> killer:  look for a newer version in backports, or ppas or use source
[06:05] <arun> how to use handsfree service of bluetooth with my phone and laptop
[06:05] <arun> how to use handsfree service of bluetooth with my phone and laptop
[06:05] <dr_willis> !patience
[06:06] <arun> how to use handsfree service of bluetooth with my phone and laptop
[06:06] <cfhowlett> arun, read your bluetooth device manual
[06:07] <dr_willis> its not even clear on what he means...
[06:09] <MoPac> Hi again all.  I'm getting a kernel oops every time I suspend: suspend behavior appears normal until wakeup, at which point system kicks down to BIOS, re-LUKS-mount, login, etc. Execpath on the internal error is /usr/share/apport/apportcheckresume. Common?
[06:09] <killer> dr_willis: i m using 12.10 version (quatzy)
[06:10] <deep_in> i am trying to install using this link https://help.landscape.canonical.com/LDS/QuickStart  now getting error in step 6
[06:10] <flintser> is there a general guide for suspending problems? or some documentation? if i suspend linux goes away but it stays at the dos style prompt with underdash flickering (you konw what i mean). then if i wake it up by pressing power button my linux fires up.
[06:12] <arun> how to use handsfree service of bluetooth with my phone and laptop
[06:12] <cfhowlett> flintser, do you have a swap partition
[06:12] <cfhowlett> arun, we don't know.  read your manual
[06:12] <MoPac> flintser: Haha, somewhere between my "suspend means shutdown" behavior and your "suspend means go to prompt" behavior, there exists the magical land of actual cpu-sleep
[06:14] <tutysra> hi, did anyone successfully installed freenx server or nomachine server on a ubuntu12.10 64 bit?
[06:15] <Alfirus> thanks, dr_willis for your help.
[06:15] <deep_in> hi did any one sucessfully install ubuntu landscape on 12.04
[06:15] <deep_in> ?
[06:19] <tj__> hello, having trouble booting from usb to my toshiba satellite l655. messed with cmos setting tryed two different ubuntu's and two different usb creators. the most i got out of start up is "syslinux 4.06...... " with blinking underscore underneath any suggestions
[06:20] <dr_willis> how were you making the usbs? you did check their md5sums first? whats your video chipset?
[06:21] <flintser> cfhowlett: yes, 4gb
[06:21] <tj__> i used the universal usb creator/pendrive  then tried yummi
[06:22] <cfhowlett> flintser, OK.  My theory is wrong then ...
[06:22] <dr_willis> yoou could try some of the other tools at the pendrivelinux site. theres some that use grub2 to boot the ISO files. those may work better in a problem case
[06:22] <SuperLag> I just added an SSD to my work desktop. My machine only takes 8GB. I think that qualifies as a first world problem. :)
[06:23] <SuperLag> I'm probably going to reinstall Ubuntu on it tomorrow... and I'm trying to figure out the best use for the space on the SSD.
[06:23] <dr_willis> i just put my / on  my 128gb ssd and  /home on its own 3tb sata hd
[06:24] <dr_willis> or i could have kept /home/ on the ssd also
[06:24] <SuperLag> dr_willis: so... no slowness by leaving ~ on the HDD?
[06:24] <dr_willis> it will be a little slower yes. it depends on your needs.. space or speed
[06:24] <arun> hey i don't have a ny manual
[06:24] <SuperLag> dr_willis: the SSD is 250GB, and the HDD is a 2TB
[06:24] <flintser> SuperLag: ubuntu and essential/most needed software on ssd, rest on other disk
[06:24] <dr_willis> put /home/ on the ssd and link your users Downloads or other dirs to the sata
[06:24] <dr_willis> it all depends on what you need.
[06:25] <flintser> oh it is 250gb.. i understood it was 8gb...
[06:25] <cfhowlett> arun, download one from the company that makes your device.  WE don't have it either
[06:25] <SuperLag> flintser: no, the 8GB was RAM
[06:25] <SuperLag> sorry :)
[06:25] <dr_willis> put swap on the hdd  not sdd ;)
[06:25] <SuperLag> flintser: I wish it took at least 16GB, as that would make the VMs run smoother
[06:25] <dr_willis> you may want to put /tmp in ram also
[06:25] <dr_willis> or on the hdd
[06:26] <flintser> SuperLag: our production servers have over 150gb of ram ;)
[06:26] <flintser> 10 hosts and hundreds of vms
[06:26] <SuperLag> flintser: you suck. talk to the hand. :)
[06:26] <SuperLag> flintser: #jealous
[06:27] <flintser> yep, but some of the appservers need up to 25gb of ram because users all over the country contact to them
[06:27] <SuperLag> My Macbook Pro has 16GB of RAM... but I may have to switch to using my Linux box full-time at work. Depends on if they finally start enforcing the no-personal-laptops policy.
[06:28] <SuperLag> flintser: and since my desktop is fully functional... I can't really say... "can I have one of the newer Lenovo machines?"
[06:28] <flintser> !ot | flintser, DOH!
[06:29] <SuperLag> flintser: was that aimed at me?
[06:29] <blbrown_win3> for iptable firewall rules.  What is -A mean and what is -I
[06:30] <flintser> SuperLag: no, just some self-made fun for me and at the same time a reminder of the offtopic channel
[06:33] <tcatt> Hello, using 12.10, all flash video just shows a black box, no controls, no video or audio plays... any suggestion please to fix?
[06:34] <flintser> tcatt: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[06:34] <magn3ts> dr_willis: I installed it? :P
[06:34] <magn3ts> dr_willis: It was released yesterday or the day before.
[06:35] <dr_willis> magn3ts:  good? I got no idea what you are talking about...   ;P
[06:35] <deep_in> ???
[06:35] <ubuntuw1204> why is linux kernel updated 3.2.0.37 to 3.2.0.38 in ubuntu 12.04
[06:35] <magn3ts> dr_willis: I already reported it on the Linux bugzilla. You asked how I had 3.8 installed... a while ago, sorry.
[06:35] <cfhowlett> ubuntuw1204, because kernels get improved and fixed.  You don't HAVE to use it ...
[06:35] <dr_willis> ubuntuw1204:  what are you expecting?
[06:36] <magn3ts> He's likes '7's in his kernel versions.
[06:36] <leaf_____> Hi, using 12.04, when booting, message displays saying screen, graphics and input device setting could not be detected... any suggestion please to fix?
[06:36] <dr_willis> so does  the Boeing Aircraft designers. ;)
[06:36] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset|leaf_____,
[06:36] <ubuntuw1204> dr_willis: no i mean why not 3.2 to 3.7?
[06:37] <dr_willis> !latest
[06:37] <tcatt> flintser: I have already installed that
[06:37] <magn3ts> LTSs don't get the latest and greatest kernels.
[06:37] <magn3ts> stupid useful factoids.
[06:37] <leaf_____> Thanks ubottu, I'll look into it.
[06:37] <cfhowlett> magn3ts, disagree.  I installed 12.4.2 this an hour ago ... kernel updated
[06:37] <dr_willis> why not 3.8 it came out like.. err.. ysterday? last week? ;) i dont follow kernels
[06:38] <magn3ts> cfhowlett: so you're running 3.8.0 on there? I don't think so...
[06:38] <magn3ts> cfhowlett: unless you installed it manually like i did :P
[06:38] <ubuntuw1204> magn3ts, ok but whats the reason for maintaining 3.2 ?
[06:38] <magn3ts> !latest
[06:38] <dr_willis> 12.4.2 sort of ddoes some special stuff for updateing. compared to 12.04.1 from what i saw mentioned in here yesterday
[06:38] <cfhowlett> magn3ts, kernels don't immediately appear in the distros you konw.
[06:38] <flintser> tcatt: what browser and have you restarted browser after installing the flash-plugins included in ubuntu-restricted-extras
[06:39] <magn3ts> cfhowlett: what does `uname -a` tell you?
[06:39] <cfhowlett> ubuntuw1204, my practice is to always keep one old (working) kernel in case a new kernel breaks things
[06:39] <cfhowlett> magn3ts, ubuntustudio: custom kernel 3.2.0-37-lowlatency
[06:39] <magn3ts> cfhowlett: so it's multiple versions behind.
[06:40] <tcatt> flintser: I have tried both firefox and reconk, and have restarted
[06:40] <magn3ts> that's how ubuntu releases work, hence, !latest
[06:40] <magn3ts> See #arch, etc for rolling releases and the latest and greatest
[06:40] <flintser> tcatt: you might want to try chromium-browser, i can recommend it all the way!
[06:40] <flintser> never had a problem with it
[06:41] <ubuntuw1204> magn3ts who maintains the kernel 3.2?
[06:41] <magn3ts> Idk, probably the regular kernel devs and/or canonical
[06:41] <SJr> How do I install Ubuntu on my Mac without Linux. I upgraded to 12.04 from 11.10 and it seemed to have nuked my ability to boot.
[06:41] <flintser> everytime i install *buntu first thing is "sudo apt-get purge firefox && sudo apt-get install docky gnome-do chromium-browser *buntu-restricted-extras vlc"
[06:41] <Akiva-Thinkpad> out of all these setups of a redundant raid 0, which one is the fastest? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmXdRsCSWUwWdGhlU1VINW1nVXZocUtPNzh6U3dObHc#gid=0
[06:42] <Anonymous905> Does anyone know how I can install Ubuntu on my Nexus 4?
[06:42] <magn3ts> ubuntuw1204: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/precise-changes/2013-February/018615.html
[06:42] <dr_willis> Anonymous905:  see the #ubuntu-arm channel
[06:42] <Kartagis> okay, so I upgraded the kernel, and when I try to boot to it, I get the message "/bin/sh/: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open object file: No such file or directory". why am I getting that? I've got /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
[06:42] <vnc786> i have cups installed on ubuntu 12.04 but when i try to browse thru browser and hit Administrator tab it gives me Forbidden error i have logged in with normal user does it need root login ..?
[06:43] <magn3ts> Kartagis: how far did you upgrade your kernel?
[06:43] <dr_willis> vnc786:  what address are you using in the browser?
[06:43] <tcatt> flintser: happens with chromium also
[06:43] <ubuntuw1204> magn3ts ok so ubuntu maintains 3.2 and why doesn;t linux maintain 3.2 and and does newer linux kernel have support for older hardware?
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[06:43] <Anonymous905> Does anyone know how I can install Ubuntu on my Nexus 4?
[06:43] <Kartagis> magn3ts: by "how far" do you mean to what version?
[06:43] <dr_willis> vnc786:  localhost:631 should work.  unless you are using a user other then your first made one.
[06:44] <magn3ts> Kartagis: yes
[06:44] <dr_willis> Anonymous905:  see the #ubuntu-arm channel for help with arm hardware.. theres some app you  run on a pc i recall
[06:44] <flintser> tcatt: this might have relevant info for you. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1074523
[06:44] <Kartagis> magn3ts: 3.5.0-24-generic #37~precise1-Ubuntu
[06:44] <theadmin> ubuntuw1204: kernel.org *does* mantain 3.2, and it's unlikely that a newer kernel will have support for older hardware.
[06:44] <magn3ts> ubuntuw1204: "linux" isn't a person or even necessarily a group of people. It's a thing worked on by many people.
[06:45] <vnc786> dr_willis: i m trying to add printer thru cups in some other machine but it gives Forbidden error
[06:45] <magn3ts> ubuntuw1204: rarely will a newer kernel drop support for hardware. Unless you have a 386 computer, I can't imagine hardware that won't work with a newer kernel.
[06:45] <magn3ts> ubuntuw1204: if something like that existed, it would surely be a kernel bug.
[06:45] <flintser> tcatt: WRONG URL :$ this is the right... http://askubuntu.com/questions/117831/flash-displays-black-screen-no-video-youtube-firefox-11
[06:45] <Rcart> I want to install a package from backports in precesi, I've enabled the backports in sources.list but when I do #apt-get install package/precise-backpors ... I get: "E: Release "precise-backports" for "package" was not found
[06:45] <dr_willis> vnc786:  the printer is on another machine? you did use cups on that machine and set the printer to  be shared? and the server to allow access?
[06:45] <vnc786> dr_willis: on my server it worked with localhost:631 but not with <ip>
[06:46] <ubuntuw1204> theadmin: magn3ts says new kernel will support old hardware
[06:46] <dr_willis> vnc786:  cups only listens to localhost by default i belive for securityu reasons. you need to tell it to share stuff
[06:46] <theadmin> Rcart: Did you run "apt-get update" after uncommenting said line?
[06:46] <dr_willis> and listen to other ips
[06:46] <magn3ts> ubuntuw1204: what do you mean by "old hardware"? If 3.2 supports X, Y, Z, I would expect 3.8 to support X, Y, Z.
[06:46] <magn3ts> I mean, why wouldn't it?
[06:46] <vnc786> dr_willis: it is network printer and it is added in cups ..
[06:46] <theadmin> ubuntuw1204: old, yes. oldER? Probably not. I don't think any hardware older than what already's supported will be added.
[06:46] <Rcart> theadmin: yes, I did a refresh of package
[06:47] <dr_willis> vnc786:  i go on each pc on my lan and use the http://localhost:631 thing.. i dont add the printer to pc #2 from pc #1
[06:47] <Rcart> theadmin: s/package/packages
[06:47] <Kartagis> magn3ts: well?
[06:47] <magn3ts> ubuntuw1204: theadmin, that's a good point, if something is broken now in 3.2, there's a decent chance it will still be broken in 3.8
[06:47] <theadmin> Rcart: Hm, odd. You could simply run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and it will upgrade to the latest versions anyway
[06:47] <magn3ts> Kartagis: and you did that via apt-get or ?
[06:48] <theadmin> Rcart: Maybe you could try "package/backports" instead. I prefer to stay away from the backports repo so I'm not messing with it myself :P
[06:48] <Kartagis> magn3ts: apt-get
[06:48] <magn3ts> Kartagis: was that a normal update? What did you update from? Did you do the update because you were having problems?
[06:48] <Rcart> theadmin: that's what I was expecting, but it does not upgrade my packages
[06:48] <vnc786> dr_willis: how do i add the network printer to machines in network using CUPS rather than other method..
[06:49] <Kartagis> magn3ts: I updated from something I don't remember what now. and yes, I did update because I was having a problem
[06:49] <Rcart> theadmin: same with package/backports :\
[06:49] <dr_willis> vnc786:  i do use cups. only i use cups on each machine..   you are trying to configure every pc on the lan from one pc?
[06:49] <theadmin> Rcart: Are you sure there is a version in the backports repo that's newer than the version you already have?
[06:49] <magn3ts> Kartagis: problems with libc or something else? Was it just `apt-get upgrade` ?
[06:50] <Rcart> theadmin: I verified the archive and there's a new version for it
[06:50] <Kartagis> magn3ts: apt-get update, and yes, I was getting the same message
[06:50] <dr_willis> vnc786:  you can edit the cups configs to allow pc#1 to get to pc#2s  cups:631 web interface
[06:50] <theadmin> Rcart: Hm, okay... That's strange, it should of "just work".
[06:50] <Rcart> theadmin: I want my software *out* of main section to be updated the most (;
[06:50] <dr_willis> but that has to be enabled on each pc running cups
[06:50] <magn3ts> Kartagis: hmmmm, well, I would say your problem isn't necessarily related to the kernel upgrade then :)
[06:51] <magn3ts> Kartagis: not sure off the top of my head with libc though, usually that's the "Oh crap" thing to have break. You might repeat that error and see if other people have some quicker thoughts.
[06:51] <BroUnicorn> This isn't the correct channel but just a question.
[06:52] <magn3ts> That's the IRC version of "I'm not a racist but..." :P
[06:52] <Rcart> theadmin: btw, I've enabled apt preference for priority in /etc/apt/preferences
[06:52] <cfhowlett> magn3ts, agreed
[06:52] <BroUnicorn> Is it normal for a second level course at a University (140) in computer science to cover Hash Tables?
[06:52] <cfhowlett> BroUnicorn, you're right.  wrong channel.
[06:52] <BroUnicorn> :P
[06:52] <Kartagis> magn3ts: actually, I was running !xen kernel, and still am. when I try to switch kernels, I get that. I updated the kernel in the hopes that the problem will get fixed
[06:52] <Rcart> theadmin: but still can't get backports T__T
[06:52] <theadmin> BroUnicorn: Not for here, try #defocus or #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:53] <magn3ts> Kartagis: Oh. Weird, I don't know, that's strange to me...
[06:53] <theadmin> Rcart: It's strange really. And that means I don't know why it happens :P
[06:53] <Rcart> theadmin: hahaha, ok. Thanks. I better go to sleep :X
[06:54] <vnc786> dr_willis: m  try this http://tinyurl.com/a8or6b5
[06:54] <Rcart> theadmin: thanks ;D
[06:54] <Kartagis> magn3ts: I had high hopes with dr_willis, but he doesn't know either :S
[06:54] <dixoncx> [Ubuntu 12.04 Server] How to add a user to sudo ? tried 'adduser username sudo', still get 'sudo: must be setuid root'
[06:54] <magn3ts> Kartagis: heh, in that case I wouldn't have wasted your time. If he doesn't know, I certainly won't.
[06:54] <theadmin> dixoncx: sudo adduser username sudo # Eh.
[06:54] <theadmin> dixoncx: Must be root to do admin tasks after all
[06:54] <cfhowlett> dixoncx, "sudo" is banned as a username by default
[06:55] <theadmin> cfhowlett: That's not a username, that's a valid groupname in Ubuntu
[06:55] <cfhowlett> ...ow
[06:55] <cfhowlett> ok
[06:55] <theadmin> cfhowlett: By default, there's a line in sudoers saying %sudo ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
[06:55] <Kartagis> dixoncx: or sudo gpasswd -a username sudo
[06:55] <theadmin> cfhowlett: So yeah
[06:55] <dixoncx> cfhowlett: i run 'adduser username sudo' from root
[06:56] <theadmin> dixoncx: That should work, but how/why are you logged in as root? That's not possible on Ubuntu by default and it's not supported
[06:57] <dixoncx> theadmin: Am configuring a new user from root on a vps..
[06:57] <dixoncx> through ssh
[06:58] <dr_willis> those fun and tricky vps's
[06:58] <theadmin> dixoncx: Oh, eh... VPS providers do crazy stuff :/ Anyway, it should work, hm. Depends on the Ubuntu release though
[06:58] <nfd> so you're just su-d in.
[06:58] <theadmin> dixoncx: On older releases, the group is "admin"
[06:59] <dixoncx> theadmin: let me try..
[06:59] <agu10^> boner broke, right?
[07:00] <nfd> huh, is there any way to get Pidgin to give alerts (to the DE) for new IRC messages on just one tab?
[07:00] <flintser> addusers in ubuntu: "sudo useradd username" "usermod -aG adm,cdrom,lpadmin,sudo,sambashare,dip,plugdev username
[07:00] <flintser> "
[07:01] <theadmin> flintser: "useradd" is a bit low-level, "adduser" works better for most purposes.
[07:02] <theadmin> Cause it prevents you from manually having to set the password, GECOS info, and groups
[07:02] <theadmin> All automated and even interactive
[07:02] <dr_willis> yep.. adduser billgates    for fun. ;-)
[07:03] <flintser> well i dont want to create stuff i dont need, generally new users are for ftp and webadmin stuff for me... adduser is better for more common situations. i intended to write adduser but old habits... ;)
[07:03] <dr_willis> the digitalocean site had some admin guides on setting up a vps with users
[07:04] <tgunr> just finished updating from 12.04 to 12.10 and now ubuntu is frozen at the desktop pix, is it normal to have to wait a bit?
[07:04] <theadmin> tgunr: A bit, maybe, but not any longer than a minute or so
[07:04] <dixoncx> theadmin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1687971/
[07:04] <tgunr> well, I'm borked then, been about 15 minutes so far
[07:04] <theadmin> tgunr: Please note that since 12.10 the Unity interface *requires* 3D acceleration capabilities on your GPU and therefore may fail on older graphic cards
[07:04] <nfd> ewwww
[07:05] <nfd> TL;DR use a better DE :P
[07:05] <tgunr> oh, thats nice to know now
[07:05] <theadmin> dixoncx: Well it worked, now you should just be able to log in with that revscrz user
[07:05] <nfd> Sacrelige in this channel?
[07:06] <tgunr> doesn't the update pricess check for such things?
[07:06] <theadmin> tgunr: I don't think the package manager cares for your hardware at all :P
[07:06] <tgunr> evidently
[07:07] <theadmin> tgunr: Try using Xfce for a lighter environment... Or KDE for a heavier and prettier one.
[07:07] <nfd> I guess you could try downgrading Unity to some previous version.
[07:07] <tgunr> sigh… been trying to get ubuntu configured all afternoon and evening
[07:07] <nfd> Or Awesome for something different and stupid fast
[07:08] <dixoncx> theadmin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1687995/
[07:08] <theadmin> tgunr: Both should be possible to set up even without a GUI present, just get to the console (Ctrl-Alt-F2) and "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" (for the xfce release) and "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" for the KDE one.
[07:08] <dr_willis> 12.10 has a feature to go into a 2d low mode.. but its in development
[07:08] <magn3ts> dr_willis: lolwut
[07:08] <dr_willis> and dont work well..... yet
[07:09] <theadmin> dixoncx: Oh jeebus, seems they messed sudo up :/
[07:09] <tgunr> checking if this has 3d
[07:09] <magn3ts> dr_willis: 12.10 has a feature in development? Does that mean its something that will be backported... or ... ?
[07:09] <theadmin> dixoncx: You may need to check your /etc/sudoers and such and see if it's messed up, and if not, then just reinstall sudo from the repos
[07:09] <dr_willis> i forget what they called it. but unity 2d is gone because this replaced it
[07:09] <agu10^> /msg nickserv identify 39208323
[07:09] <flintser> agu10^: fail
[07:10] <theadmin> *sigh* when will people learn not to identify in channel windows
[07:10] <nfd> reinstall sudo? Ewwwwwwww.
[07:10] <theadmin> agu10^: Please change your password now.
[07:10] <MasterOfDisaster> agu10^: hurry and change your password :D
[07:10] <tzarc> identify through server password imo
[07:10] <agu10^> /msg nickserv passwd 1234
[07:10] <nfd> quick question while we are here
[07:10] <magn3ts> lol
[07:10] <flintser> agu10^: double fail x999 facepalm
[07:10] <we6jbo> why would you use only numbers for a password?
[07:10] <theadmin> agu10^: You're using some crazy client.
[07:10] <vnc786> dr_willis: right on i m on xp machine and thru that how do i add printer ??
[07:11] <agu10^> /msg nickserv identify 39208323
[07:11] <theadmin> agu10^: Install something that supports commands :/
[07:11] <dixoncx> theadmin: k, am going to reinstall sudo, regular 'apt-get install sudo' from root enough ?
[07:11] <MasterOfDisaster> agu10^: please pick 'hunter2' as your new password, please! :D
[07:11] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/176634/unity-2d-support-dropped-in-12-10-what-now
[07:11] <we6jbo> want me to change it for you agu10?
[07:11] <theadmin> dixoncx: You need --reinstall to install packages that are already up-to-date
[07:11] <nfd> How can I best disable the recovery mode (accessible from grub)?
[07:11] <dixoncx> theadmin: k
[07:11] <theadmin> nfd: What for? It's useful.
[07:11] <nfd> i want it gone, not just the references poofed
[07:11] <dr_willis> !cups
[07:11] <flintser> agu10^: unacceptable already
[07:12] <agu10^> lmao
[07:12] <nfd> Wait, am I mistaken in my assumption that it has root?
[07:12] <vnc786> dr_willis: yes
[07:12] <agu10^> we6jbo, please yes
[07:12] <theadmin> nfd: Well, yes, so? Anyone with physical access to the machine is capable of getting access to your system anyway (livecd, etc)
[07:13] <theadmin> nfd: Won't make you more secure if that's what you're trying to do.
[07:13] <we6jbo> what do you want your password to be?
[07:13] <flintser> tgunr: if youre still running ubuntu in vm, you can maybe add gpu support
[07:13] <nfd> yeah I guess. Grub still will boot anything (wat).
[07:13] <magn3ts> Why are you having someone else change your password? wth, just tell him the command to change it via nickserv
[07:13] <magn3ts> also, don't do it in a channel tab.
[07:13] <theadmin> nfd: GRUB has password-protection mechanisms if you want to do that.
[07:13] <tgunr> just checked, parallels 8 does support 3d
[07:14] <theadmin> nfd: That's more secure
[07:14] <we6jbo> his client wont let him do that
[07:14] <theadmin> Although still not enough...
[07:14] <nfd> yeah, but apparently you can still breeze through them?
[07:14] <magn3ts> his client won't let him send a message
[07:14] <nfd> lemme DDG it.
[07:14] <magn3ts> ?
[07:14] <flintser> tgunr: your vmhost is parallels 8?
[07:14] <tgunr> yes
[07:14] <theadmin> nfd: Yeah again, get a LiveCD or such. You could set a BIOS password so that nobody can boot nothing without your permission
[07:14] <varikonniemi> wow, nice, encrypted search was just turned on for default searches. Why so long before implemented?
[07:15] <magn3ts> nfd: theadmin: GRUB password protection isn't going to do a whole lot.
[07:15] <magn3ts> FDE would be necessary.
[07:15] <nfd> magn3ts: exactly
[07:15] <theadmin> That's a good idea too.
[07:15] <magn3ts> I'd remove the hard drive, boot it in another system, pull the data.
[07:15] <nfd> yeah
[07:15] <magn3ts> If you use Full disc encryption, I freeze your RAM and extract the key.
[07:15] <we6jbo> agu10 maybe you should try #help or #freenode admins can help you with your password there
[07:15] <nfd> I need to get around to reinstalling it with FDE
[07:15] <magn3ts> If you use TRESOR and try to keep the key out of RAM, then I will use the attack on TRESOR I read about a few months ago :P
[07:16] <theadmin> nfd: The Ubuntu installer only provides encryption options for /home IIRC
[07:16] <magn3ts> TRESOR is actually a really cool feature that I'd love to see merged into mainline kernels.
[07:16] <magn3ts> theadmin: I think the 13.04 offers FDE.
[07:16] <MasterOfDisaster> watch out, we have a badass over here...
[07:16] <varikonniemi> you do realize a ram attack is only theoretical?
[07:16] <nfd> not if I wipe the RAM on shutdown and then not stray away more than 30 cm from my keyboard for fifteen minutes!
[07:16] <theadmin> magn3ts: Ah, that may be, but it ain't a stable release so whatever :P
[07:16] <dr_willis> o_°
[07:16] <magn3ts> theadmin: yeah, realized that as I pressed enter. :P
[07:16] <lunitik> theadmin: Ubuntu 12.10 does full drive
[07:16] <theadmin> lunitik: Oh, good :)
[07:17] <magn3ts> nfd, well you could wipe the ram with the key before halting. TRESOR keeps the key in CPU registers though so you can't do a memory attack.
[07:17]  * lunitik just installed, remembers seeing it just a few hours ago
[07:17] <nfd> yeah, but can you do in *post-install*?
[07:17] <theadmin> I'm going with the LTS branch so I'm not fully aware of the new things in 12.10
[07:17] <jackwu> new ubuntu
[07:17] <nfd> oh that's pretty cool
[07:17] <jackwu> when new version ubuntu is going to come out?
[07:17] <varikonniemi> theadmin, its a long wait till next LTS
[07:17] <magn3ts> FDE post-install? No. I don't know how that would be possible, and really not worth it. Keep /home on a separate partition and reinstalling is as painless as 15-20 minutes of spare time.
[07:18] <theadmin> jackwu: 13.04 stands for year 13 (2013), month 04 (April).
[07:18] <nfd> yeah.
[07:18] <agu10^> jackwu, versions are a lie.
[07:18]  * lunitik finds LTS too boring, will probably see what he can break with raring in a few days
[07:18] <dr_willis> jackwu: version  number is the date
[07:18] <magn3ts> LTS is for noooooobs.
[07:18] <MasterOfDisaster> jackwu: April, March? guess why it's called 13.04 :D
[07:18] <varikonniemi> and i bet 12.04 will feel very old in a year
[07:18] <tgunr> hmm, i can ssh into the 12.10 VM
[07:18] <magn3ts> lunitik: pulseaudio broke but is fixed already, I haven't had any significant breakage yet
[07:18] <theadmin> varikonniemi: I prefer stability over, err, newness.
[07:18] <theadmin> varikonniemi: Well, has it's limits though, I wouldn't run Debian stable for instance :P
[07:18] <varikonniemi> yeah i get that, 12.10 is horrible and i regret upgrading
[07:18] <magn3ts> although I keep all of my data on a BTRFS raid10 array, so I'm obviously not a shining star of stability or good choices.
[07:19] <lunitik> magn3ts: I'm really not sure what is even new in raring, hence I didn't rush in
[07:19] <nfd> I don
[07:19] <MasterOfDisaster> theadmin: reasonable stableness. remember debian woody? :D
[07:19] <tgunr> I'm beginning to regret also
[07:19] <lunitik> theadmin: on a server, stability is necessary, on a desktop, it just hampers fun
[07:19] <magn3ts> lunitik: +1
[07:19] <magn3ts> but then again, I don't use Unity :P
[07:19] <tgunr> last thing in log, is trying to establish ipv6
[07:19] <varikonniemi> now that everything works, 12.10 is better than 12.04, but it was a PAIN to get everything working
[07:20] <nfd> 't have /home on a separate partition, and i have probably over a half-dozen third-party repos installed, so sounds like a PITA.
[07:20] <theadmin> MasterOfDisaster: I do not, I only use Linux since 2008 and I haven't checked Debian way until 2012
[07:20] <magn3ts> nfd, I added my PPAs and other repos to a little install script I've got. Adds some repos, installs everything through apt-get, installs steam, etc.
[07:20] <dixoncx> theadmin: Reinstalling sudo fixed issue.. Thanks :):)
[07:20] <theadmin> dixoncx: Great. Geez. Might want to complain to your VPS provider that they broke sudo
[07:20] <magn3ts> I can do a reinstall and have everything back and installed in under a half hour. After that it's a bit of tweaking if I don't have /home saved or on a separate part.
[07:21] <lunitik> magn3ts: most other projects on the desktop are much less interesting these days imo... for developers KDE is nice though
[07:21] <nfd> Funky. Now I just need to figure out what exactly I have installed.
[07:21] <lunitik> magn3ts: due mostly to the transition to QML
[07:21] <magn3ts> lunitik: I *just* switched after going from Unity -> Gnome-shell -> Cinnamon -> KDE and I'm quite happy with it, but KWin rocks after all.
[07:21] <flintser> magn3ts: i'd like to see you setup clean ubuntu and downloading+installing over 10gb of stuff in under 30min ;D
[07:21] <magn3ts> lunitik: the rest of Plasma I'm still a bit shaky about, KIO sucks, etc.
[07:21] <magn3ts> flintser: 10GB? o_0
[07:22] <varikonniemi> lunitik, don't you think some wayland/qml desktop would be more interesting for devs? Current technologies are well represented, there is better opportunities in new tech.
[07:22] <nfd> oh yeah
[07:22] <flintser> if you have steam i bet you have games too, magn3ts
[07:22] <magn3ts> varikonniemi: are you volunteering? I'd love a wayland/qml desktop and am quite sure that several will pop up in the next few years
[07:22] <magn3ts> flintser: ah :) well, depends on if I'm at my parents home or my appt with fiber.
[07:22] <nfd> i've got tweaked config files in bizarre places too...
[07:22] <theadmin> Anyway peoples, we went offtopic a *lot*, this is a support channel, not for plain discussion
[07:22] <varikonniemi> check out #maui-project
[07:23] <magn3ts> varikonniemi: My eye is keenly trained upon it :)
[07:23] <dixoncx> theadmin: hmm, that was cheap vps promo, i dont care.. Actually whats the kernal version in 12.04 server ?
[07:23] <magn3ts> varikonniemi: in fact I'm in that room already ;)
[07:23] <varikonniemi> :>
[07:23] <MasterOfDisaster> flintser: your ubuntu installation (sans home directory and data) has > 10GB?
[07:23] <theadmin> dixoncx: Ubuntu provides 3.2.x, but the VPS may have their own kernel
[07:24] <magn3ts> MasterOfDisaster: he was referring to my steam games
[07:24] <dixoncx> theadmin: k, got it..
[07:24] <vaq> When having fuse in /etc/fstab my machine doesn't seem to update /etc/mtab with the mountpoint from, randomly.. Even though the mount exists accordingly to cat /proc/mounts - Any ideas?
[07:24] <MasterOfDisaster> ah
[07:24] <theadmin> dixoncx: Check "uname -r" to see what you have
[07:24] <lunitik> varikonniemi: I'm not sure how I feel about wayland... xorg is modular enough, it has served us well, I'm really not sure what wayland actually improves on
[07:24] <varikonniemi> x is horrible
[07:24] <varikonniemi> the only outdated sw stack on modern linux
[07:24]  * magn3ts nods
[07:24] <lunitik> varikonniemi: if wayland sat atop dbus rather than a new IPC, maybe I'd like it more
[07:24] <agu10^> /msg nickserv identify freenodepass
[07:25] <lunitik> varikonniemi: Why is X horrible?
[07:25] <theadmin> !ops | Somebody stop the offtopic madness please
[07:25] <magn3ts> Quick! Someone link to the video from two weeks ago!
[07:25] <dixoncx> theadmin: mine: 2.6.36-
[07:25] <flintser> why is every ubuntu channel turning into a "omg dont use gui ohh lets see him use fedora lts is for nubs lololo"
[07:25] <flintser> or gentoo
[07:25] <theadmin> dixoncx: Oh, gee
[07:25] <magn3ts> flintser: maybe we're looking at different ubuntu chans but I didn't see that anywhere...
[07:25] <varikonniemi> there are so many problems with it that they just cannot fix due to design errors
[07:26] <lunitik> varikonniemi: like what?
[07:26] <theadmin> flintser: It's... a pretty sane channel here most of the time but yeah, this kinda thing happens sometimes :/
[07:26] <bazhang> varikonniemi, lets get back on topic
[07:26] <varikonniemi> lunitik, you should see the presentation of a former x dev who moved to wayland where he explains why they need a new approach
[07:26] <lunitik> varikonniemi: you can /msg me if you want to continue, party poopers around
[07:26] <flintser> and ubuntu-tablet was trolling #iphone
[07:26] <bazhang> flintser, lets get back to ubuntu support only please
[07:26] <magn3ts> flintser: Sorry, I know it's a long video but it's worth it: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTI5NTI
[07:27] <tgunr> trying to discover what is hanging in 12.10, top is not showing anything interesting
[07:27] <varikonniemi> magn3ts, thats the one, thanks!
[07:27] <magn3ts> flintser: sorry, that wasn't meant for you
[07:27] <agu10^> varikonniemi, what do you recommend instead?
[07:27] <magn3ts> varikonniemi: lunitik: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTI5NTI is long, but good.
[07:27] <melody> hi i was just wondering. how do we get into channels t require invitation?
[07:27] <theadmin> magn3ts, varikonniei, lunit, flintser: Please continue this in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:27] <magn3ts> anyway, theadmin is right, we're way OT. sorry!
[07:27] <bazhang> melody, ask in #freenode
[07:27] <MasterOfDisaster> tgunr: checked the usual suspects yet? iotop, vmstat?
[07:28] <agu10^> varikonniemi, what do you recommend instead?
[07:28]  * tgunr man iotop
[07:28] <melody> request from there?
[07:28] <theadmin> melody: You're not registered, please /msg nickserv help register first
[07:28] <bazhang> melody, ask them there
[07:28] <tgunr> no iotop
[07:28] <agu10^> /msg nickserv register melody
[07:29] <MasterOfDisaster> tgunr: sudo apt-get install iotop
[07:29] <tgunr> trying
[07:31] <vaq> When having fuse in /etc/fstab my machine doesn't seem to update /etc/mtab with the mountpoint randomly, some times it does other times not, even though the mount exists accordingly to cat /proc/mounts - Any ideas?
[07:31] <tgunr> ok, iotop looks very quiet vmstat shows 1.5MB free
[07:32] <theadmin> vaq: It's safe to symlink /etc/mtab to /proc/mounts
[07:32] <tgunr> syslog is very quiet also
[07:33] <vaq> theadmin: thanks
[07:35] <theadmin> I'm not quite sure why that's not the default
[07:36] <theadmin> Anyhow, I'm off
[07:40] <magn3ts> This channel got slow after we got chased off. We were the life of the party.
[07:40] <yajnab> Guys my system configuration  Processor - AMD FX-8350(8Core ,4 GHz) Motherboard - Gigabyte 880GM-USB3 RAM- 8GB DDR3 Graphics card - MSI AMD Radeon R6450  Guys if i install any Ubuntu version higher than the 10.04 there is a graphics break in my system. Currently in Ubuntu 12.10. Green and red dots scattered everywhere in the screen over the graphics.. Now it wont boot. I can get it booted from the recovery mode. I want a solution
[07:41] <aeon-ltd> yajnab: tried both open source and proprietry drivers?
[07:41] <yajnab> @aeon-ltd : actually um new
[07:41] <yajnab> can u find a solution
[07:42] <aeon-ltd> i just suggested one
[07:42] <yajnab> Not tried anything like the opensource or propietory. :(
[07:42] <aeon-ltd> are you using any drivers?
[07:43] <yajnab> No driver
[07:43] <yajnab> just made a clean ubuntu 12.10 installation..
[07:43] <flintser> yajnab: go to software sources and select tab additional drivers
[07:44] <LinaSovereign> Hey !
[07:44] <yajnab> @flintser : then??
[07:45] <flintser> is there anything to select
[07:46] <flintser> install the graphichs related proprietary drivers
[07:46] <flintser> dont use noveau or similar
[07:47] <tgunr> does anyone have any suggestions as to what I might poke to kill this hang?
[07:48] <yajnab> @flinster : i have amd driver
[07:48] <yajnab> the xorg
[07:48] <yajnab> then the propietory flxgr
[07:48] <yajnab> flxgr
[07:48] <yajnab> three options
[07:48] <yajnab> wen i select propeitory the hanges are not saved
[07:49] <peeps[lappy]> how do i turn off these awful popup scrollbars
[07:49] <yajnab> when i select the propeitory the changes are not saved
[07:49] <yajnab> wen i boot
[07:49] <yajnab> and moreover i cant boot into the ubuntu
[07:49] <usr13> yajnab: Don't use Enter key for punctuaion.
[07:49] <yajnab> except the recovery mode
[07:50] <tgunr> peeps[lappy] you might try ccdm i think
[07:50] <tgunr> ccsm
[07:50] <flintser> yajnab: selct the amd driver
[07:50] <jacta> Can anyone help me, I have a problem where I cant type the same key within a short amount of time - its really slowing me down, can anyone point in a direction for this?
[07:50] <tgunr> key delay in system preferences?
[07:51] <peeps[lappy]> ccsm?
[07:51] <flintser> !ccsm | peeps[lappy]
[07:51] <usr13> yajnab: Check to see that the fan is running.
[07:52] <yajnab> one thing can i disable my GPU.. i dnt really need it
[07:52] <yajnab> coz i dnt play games
[07:52] <yajnab> then i think the problem will be slved
[07:52] <usr13> yajnab: So there is also an onboard GPU?
[07:52] <flintser> yajnab: it is good to have a gpu in unity 3d, otherwise it can be painfully laggy/slow
[07:52] <jacta> tgunr: where do you find that you say?
[07:53] <yajnab> hmm
[07:53] <yajnab> Ya i have a onboard GPU
[07:53] <tgunr> try that ccsm thing above, it might be in there
[07:53] <yajnab> actually i am a kernel developer and Android developer
[07:53] <jacta> me tgunr ?
[07:53] <flintser> yajnab: try all the drivers, one of them should work at least so that you can boot in normal mode
[07:53] <usr13> yajnab: Are you sure the fans are running?  And at top speeds?
[07:53] <tgunr> jacta: yes
[07:53] <yajnab> @usr13 ya the fan runing
[07:54] <usr13> yajnab: (Sounds a lot like heat related issue.)
[07:54] <yajnab> @flinster wen i change the driver from the reovery the changes are not saved
[07:54] <tgunr> jacta: this is my first day with ubuntu so take what I say with a bug grain of salt
[07:54] <flintser> yajnab: but it has to be more than a crappy integrated chip. for example hd3000 is enough, but gma is not so good...
[07:54] <jacta> I don't think ccsm is the place actually
[07:55] <agu10^> don't use ccsm in ubuntu
[07:55] <agu10^> it's broken
[07:55] <flintser> yajnab: hmm... did you try the nomodeset boot in normal mode so that you can install the drivers
[07:55] <yajnab> I have HD6450
[07:55] <flintser> no quarantee that it works
[07:55] <yajnab> nomodeset - i dnt knw wat it is
[07:56] <MadManfromMacon> What is the easiest way to?
[07:56] <cyberdo> is there a better channel than this to get help on apparmor?
[07:57] <MadManfromMacon> No just give up
[07:57] <jacta> agu10^: do you know where I can look for it then
[07:57] <agu10^> jacta, idk
[07:58] <helmut_> hi
[07:58] <PadNet_201> hi
[08:00] <wiiw> how to man this: /proc/sys/vm/dirty_writeback_centisecs
[08:01] <agu10^> man /proc/sys/vm/dirty_writeback_centisecs
[08:01] <TakeItEZ> jacta: add "export LIBOVERLAY_SCROLLBARS=0" to /etc/X11/Xsession.d/99disable-overlay-scrollbars
[08:01] <wiiw> agu10^: I mean how to find the mean of this file
[08:02] <agu10^> the mean
[08:02] <agu10^> !google
[08:02] <agu10^> google-fu ???
[08:02] <sx_usr__>  anyone here have the best site to show how to upgrade from Ubuntu 12.04 to 12.10?
[08:03] <agu10^> sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:03] <jacta> TakeItEZ: what should that do?
[08:03] <bazhang> agu10^, thats not correct
[08:03] <TakeItEZ> wiiw: http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/sysctl/vm.txt
[08:03] <sx_usr__> agu10^, i did,  but didn't prompt me to upgrd to 12.10
[08:03] <wiiw> TakeItEZ: ok
[08:03] <bazhang> !upgrade | sx_usr__
[08:03] <TakeItEZ> jacta: sry wron nick
[08:03] <MadManfromMacon> can you all be quiet for a few minutes? trying to listen to a song and you guys keep making noise. it's really rude.
[08:03] <sx_usr__> bazhang,  thanks!
[08:03] <agu10^> sx_usr__, then you screwed up your install really bad
[08:04] <TakeItEZ> peeps[lappy]: add "export LIBOVERLAY_SCROLLBARS=0" to /etc/X11/Xsession.d/99disable-overlay-scrollbars
[08:04] <sx_usr__> agu10^, screw you
[08:04] <bazhang> sx_usr__, that is wrong. stop it
[08:04] <bazhang> agu10^, you too
[08:04] <agu10^> ugh?
[08:05] <jacta> *aww*
[08:05] <jacta> so lost I am :p
[08:06] <hell_> hi everyone
[08:07] <hell_> Any one plz tell me how i can create a restore point like windows in linux
[08:07] <jacta> Its really anoying with the "same-key-delay" :/
[08:08] <TakeItEZ> hell_: there is no such feature. use incremental backups/images
[08:08] <bazhang> hell_, you would need to image the disk.  the Disks application in 12.10 has that
[08:08] <hell_> TakeItEz: oooooooo thats sad
[08:08] <bazhang> TakeItEZ, sure there is
[08:09] <TakeItEZ> bazhang: what, where?
[08:09] <bazhang> TakeItEZ, in Disks : create disk image
[08:09] <hell_> is there specific command for that?
[08:09] <TakeItEZ> bazhang: a disk-image is not like "windows restore point"
[08:09] <bazhang> TakeItEZ, this is not windows. its the functional equivalent
[08:09] <magn3ts> Use BTRFS and then you can snapshot to your heart's desire
[08:10] <jarco> Why is my lubuntu downloading unity app menu integration for firefox when I update?
[08:10] <flintser> TakeItEZ: take essential backups in ubuntu one, there you have your restore point then
[08:10] <jarco> I don't have unity installed
[08:10] <TakeItEZ> bazhang: does it create a full image of your installation?
[08:10] <magn3ts> jarco: it's probably the firefox extension that is probably referenced by the meta package ubuntu-desktop
[08:10] <vreim> why can i chat here when i dont have internet??
[08:10] <magn3ts> jarco: and, did you apt-get remove unity o_0 ?
[08:10] <TakeItEZ> flintser: i don't need such  thing
[08:10] <magn3ts> vreim: um, you must have internet. Or magic.
[08:11] <jarco> magn3ts, no. I never installed it in the first place. Would that get rid of it?
[08:11] <jarco> I am using lxde because I onlu have  256 ram
[08:11] <magn3ts> jarco: how did you not install it? It comes with Unity and that firefox extension by default?
[08:11] <jarco> only*
[08:11] <magn3ts> jarco: or are you not using ubuntu?
[08:11] <jarco> Lubuntu
[08:12] <magn3ts> might be a bug in their meta package then if they pull it in
[08:12] <magn3ts> either way, just apt-get remove it if you don't want it
[08:12] <jarco> Should i report this somewhere?
[08:14] <jarco> The package is called firefox globalmenu. Hope its not doing something for lxde
[08:16] <Markus__> hi
[08:17] <jarco> Hi Markus__
[08:18] <aeon-ltd> is ubuntu server the most barebones you can go with ubuntu?
[08:18] <magn3ts> jarco: I wouldn't sweat it. The global menu could be used by other things other than unity but it doesn't matter.
[08:18] <magn3ts> jarco: if it's not there, it just displays a regular menu
[08:18] <Markus__> ubuntu or windows 7 or the latest mac os?
[08:18] <TakeItEZ> !mini | aeon-ltd
[08:18] <jarco> ok magn3ts I removed it
[08:19] <aeon-ltd> TakeItEZ: i didn't mean in iso size, post install. the least amount of packages for ubuntu is the server edition right?
[08:19] <jarco> Markus__, depends on what you are looking for
[08:19] <Markus__> the best
[08:19] <jarco> the best in what?
[08:20] <jarco> To do what?
[08:20] <Markus__> everything
[08:21] <bazhang> Markus__, do you have an ubuntu support question?
[08:21] <jarco> Markus__, I intended to ask, what are you intending to use your system for?
[08:21] <Markus__> no
[08:21] <bazhang> Markus__, take chit chat to #ubuntu-offtopic , this is ubuntu support only
[08:21] <Markus__> ok
[08:23] <Vreim2k> what can i do on ubuntu that i cant do on windows?
[08:23] <jarco> Vreim2k, You can run Linux software for example :)
[08:23] <bazhang> Vreim2k, try in #ubuntu-discuss
[08:24] <usr13> jarco: You say you are doing an update?  Exactly what are you doing?  sudo apt-get upgrade ?  or?
[08:24] <magn3ts> A sense of satisfaction?
[08:24] <Fuzzles> Vreim2k, not get viruses, blue screen of death and a slow machine
[08:24] <Vreim2k> just made an dual boot for my laptop just to check it out
[08:24] <Vreim2k> looks really nice :D
[08:24] <jarco> i just did the update the update notifier (gui) presented me with
[08:25] <usr13> jarco: I see.  Ok.
[08:25] <jarco> Vreim2k, when using unity make sure to test the "hud". (alt key and type)
[08:25] <magn3ts> <3 HUD, I wish I could use it with KWin
[08:26] <Vreim2k> jarco, what is unity?
[08:26] <magn3ts> HUD is truly, truly great. Say anything else you want about Unity, HUD is really smart.
[08:26] <jarco> Vreim2k, its a gui for Linux
[08:27] <jarco> A desktop enviroment
[08:27] <magn3ts> Unity is a "desktop environment". It's the UI that you see when you login.
[08:27] <Vreim2k> what can i do with it+
[08:27] <jarco> Its the one that comes standard with ubuntu
[08:27] <magn3ts> The launcher bar on the left, the global menu at the top, etc.
[08:27] <magn3ts> Vreim2k: think of "desktop environment" as being like the "shell" like in Windows the Start Menu. In OS X, it's Finder and the Dock and the topbar.
[08:27] <magn3ts> Etc.
[08:27] <Vreim2k> ohh thats the thing i like with ubuntu
[08:28] <Vreim2k> i love the bar on the top
[08:28] <usr13> Vreim2k: Unity is a Desktop Environment. One that jarco does not want or need on his system.
[08:28] <magn3ts> I'm using KWin's menu in the application-titlebar and I'm enjoying that.
[08:29] <usr13> jarco: What you installed is lubuntu.  Right?
[08:29] <Vreim2k> and what is lubuntu, i heard u guys were talking about it
[08:29] <jarco> usr13, yes. At home I run unity but at the shelter I use lxde because the system is truly ancient
[08:29] <dr_willis> !lubuntu
[08:30] <magn3ts> So, with lubuntu, Vreim2k, the "shell" or "desktop environment" is different. Instead of the left launcher bar and the top bar...
[08:30] <dr_willis> the lxde homepage has screenshots that show what lubuntu  basically  looks like
[08:30] <magn3ts> there is LXDE instead. It's a different set of tools that manage your environemnt and GUI. For you, the best way might be to look at screenshots of different desktop environemnts.
[08:31] <usr13> jarco: What may be happening is that you have installed an application that requires some of the unity apps and that is why it's downloading and upgrading them, (not with the intention of switching to unity).  The only way your system will revert to unity is if you install the package  ubuntu-desktop
[08:31] <magn3ts> Vreim2k: I'd check out screenshots of "Unity", "gnome-shell", "kde plasma", "cinnamon", "razor-qt" and some others I'm forgetting or omitting
[08:31] <magn3ts> that will give you an idea of allllll the variety and choice you have in linux-land
[08:31] <gau1991> hi
[08:32] <dr_willis> unity, xfce, and lxde have about all your  bases covered for the range of desktops. ;)
[08:32] <magn3ts> gau1991: hi
[08:32] <Vreim2k> thx guys cecking it out now :)
[08:32] <magn3ts> dr_willis: psssh
[08:32] <Vreim2k> checking*
[08:32] <jarco> usr13, Yeah its not actually switching to it. I just found it odd that the firefox globalmenu was installed
[08:32] <cfhowlett> gau1991, greetings
[08:32] <usr13> jarco: And you are correct is assuming that 256M of RAM would not support Unity. (Well, it may run but not very well.)
[08:33] <dr_willis> firefox has a global menu to add the global menu feature to firefox.
[08:33] <dr_willis> its a firefox plugin  i recall. or extension
[08:33] <jarco> usr13, It could run. But If i see the speed my lubuntu runs on I assume its not a good idea. :)
[08:33] <usr13> jarco: I'm not familiar with firefox globalmenu (I'm an xfce user.)
[08:33] <dr_willis> if you disable it on a unity  system - you get the ff menus in firefox and in the top global menu  panel
[08:33] <wildbat> Hi, i am using 12.10. how do i set wallpaper to a folder, so that it loop the pictures inside spanning two monitor??
[08:33] <usr13> jarco: You are correct.
[08:33] <dr_willis> or so i seem to recall
[08:34] <usr13> jarco: You need more RAM
[08:34] <jarco> usr13, dr_willis , I don't need it either. It just came with firefox appearantly
[08:34] <jarco> usr13, not possible. (i actually found 256 more today) 512 is max supported
[08:34] <magn3ts> I don't use unity on my machine with 8GB of RAM :)
[08:34] <jarco> and this non-profit has no more coin for better systems.
[08:34] <magn3ts> although 13.04 gets along much better with my devices.
[08:34] <usr13> jarco: Upgrading from 256-512M will help for sure.
[08:35] <dr_willis> wildbat:   theres several wallpaper changer apps/indicator applets you may want to look into. Or theres som,e tools out to generate the dynamic wallpapers that gnome supports via some .xml files
[08:35] <usr13> dr_willis: jarco is running lubuntu
[08:35] <magn3ts> oh gnome and xml, a sorrid, dirty love affair
[08:35] <dr_willis> help as in a Turbo boost of caffine. ;)
[08:35] <jarco> yeah.
[08:35] <jarco> and I am in luck. It also runs at a whopping 400mhz :)
[08:35] <magn3ts> jarco: what's the nonprofit?
[08:35] <jarco> Animal shelter
[08:36] <magn3ts> Cool, my dad works for a pet food company.
[08:36] <damir__> Hi. Is it possible to change audio volume via volume control applet while muted? I don't like to unmute at 100% just so I can lower the volume to 10%
[08:36] <magn3ts> they do lots of work w/ animal shelters
[08:37] <magn3ts> damir__: I highly doubt that's anything you can manage via that applet, sadly. I know what you mean.
[08:37] <Vreim2k> how do i enable the gnome shell ?
[08:37] <dr_willis> !gnome-shell
[08:37] <dr_willis> !gnomeshell
[08:37] <dr_willis> hmm. thought htere was a factgoid for that..
[08:37] <dr_willis> theres a gnomeshell package you install
[08:37] <bazhang> !notunity
[08:37] <dr_willis> theres ppas for newer releases of gnome shell also.
[08:38] <nvidiaubuntu> hello
[08:38] <magn3ts> Oh god the gnome3 ppas. There's like 2-3 of them already for 13.04 >_<
[08:38] <usr13> dr_willis: !gnome ?
[08:38] <nvidiaubuntu> I am having issues with getting my mx 440 nvidia card to work. can anyone point me to a good tutorial?
[08:38] <wildbat> dr_willis, i try some changers but they don't support spanning somehow. and any good xml gen you are share or point me to ?
[08:38] <Vreim2k> i need to download it from the programcenter right?
[08:38] <jarco> damir__, When you have muted type "alsamixer" in cli. You will be able to change the volume and stay muted
[08:38] <usr13> !gnome
[08:38] <dr_willis> wildbat:  you  need wide wallpapers for that.
[08:38] <dxy> !unity
[08:39] <damir__> jarco: magn3ts alsamixer it is
[08:39] <dr_willis> wildbat:  compiz wallpaper plugin may let you  set them per desktop/monitor. but then you  loose other features.  askubuntu.com had a guide on that
[08:39] <magn3ts> damir__: 'pavucontrol' is good too and it doesn't run in the terminal if that's your cup of tea
[08:39] <magn3ts> Vreim2k: if you don't mind dropping to the Terminal you can just run `sudo apt-get install gnome-shell` and be done faster :)
[08:39] <jarco> Terminal looks cooler
[08:39] <jarco> :)
[08:40] <Vreim2k>  
[08:40] <nvidiaubuntu> I am having issues with getting my mx 440 nvidia card to work. can anyone point me to a good tutorial?
[08:40] <usr13> !info gnome-shell
[08:40] <magn3ts> Konsole > gnome-terminal, you can blur the BG with Kwin ;)
[08:40] <usr13> nvidiaubuntu: nvidia.com
[08:41] <dr_willis> is the mx440 even supported by the current nvidia drivers? thats a very  old card isent it?
[08:41] <usr13> nvidiaubuntu: jockey-gtk
[08:41] <Vreim2k> is there any other guid's that i can install?
[08:42] <nvidiaubuntu> usr13: what?
[08:42] <nvidiaubuntu> thats not a tutorial
[08:42] <usr13> nvidiaubuntu: I know, but if you run the application jockey-gtk it will search for aditional driver sofrware, (if needed).
[08:43] <usr13> nvidiaubuntu: Is it not working at all?
[08:43] <usr13> nvidiaubuntu: What is the issue with it?
[08:43] <nvidiaubuntu> i have an mx 440 what video driver do i need to install? I installed nvidia-173
[08:44] <nvidiaubuntu> but its not being used for some reason
[08:44] <usr13> nvidiaubuntu: Where did you get nvidia-173?
[08:45] <nvidiaubuntu> usr13: from ubuntu's repos
[08:45] <nvidiaubuntu> the x-swat one
[08:45] <usr13> nvidiaubuntu: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf   #Is it there?
[08:46] <usr13> nvidiaubuntu: Have you restarted the Xserver since installing it?
[08:46] <nvidiaubuntu> usr13: yes
[08:47] <usr13> nvidiaubuntu: yes ________?
[08:47] <chaotix> hi..  i would like to install kubuntu 12.10 on my computer...  currently i have two other operating systems, windows 7(99gb)  and fedora 17(193.73 gb)...  the fedora partition is sda4, broken up into sda5 and sda6 underneath it...   i need to be able to take 40gb from the fedora partition to make this Kubuntu partition.....   i am booted into the kubuntu live disk now, and i have gparted open...  but i am unable to resize the
[08:47] <chaotix> fedora partition
[08:47] <nvidiaubuntu> usr13: i Have restarted xserver since last installing it....
[08:47] <usr13> nvidiaubuntu: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf   #Is it there?
[08:47] <chaotix> the fedora partition is on sda4, with 500mb on sda5, and 193.24gb on sda6
[08:47] <nvidiaubuntu> no
[08:47] <nvidiaubuntu> its not there
[08:48] <usr13> nvidiaubuntu: YOu probably need to run nvidia-xconfig
[08:48] <usr13> nvidiaubuntu: Not sure you can run it with the Xserver still running or not...
[08:48] <chaotix> can anyone help me with this?
[08:48] <nvidiaubuntu> I did, it wrote to it
[08:48] <nvidiaubuntu> im going to restart x
[08:49] <nvidiaubuntu> brb
[08:49] <cfhowlett> chaotix, probably better you ask #fedora how to resize that partition ...
[08:49] <chaotix> kk willdo
[08:52] <usr13> chaotix: Not sure why you cant resize the fedora partition.  What filesystem is on it?
[08:52] <Vreim2k> does ubuntu use more power than windows?
[08:52] <Vreim2k> it feel like my power runs out much faster
[08:52] <usr13> Vreim2k: Usually, yes, I think it does.
[08:53] <usr13> Vreim2k: There are apps you can install that will help with that issue.
[08:53] <Vreim2k> usr13: like?
[08:54] <nvidiaubuntu> hey usr13. Looks like I have an xorg.conf now which uses the 'nvidia' driver but if I launch the nvidia settings manager it says I am not using it
[08:54] <usr13> Vreim2k: http://askubuntu.com/questions/205828/how-to-run-ubuntu-12-10-on-a-laptop-with-maximum-power-saving
[08:54] <chaotix> usr13, the filesystem is lvm2 pv
[08:55] <usr13> Vreim2k: http://askubuntu.com/questions/208207/poor-battery-life-in-ubuntu-12-10-on-toshiba-p755-s5215-how-can-i-manage-backgr
[08:56] <usr13> chaotix: Ahh yea.  Probably need to boot fedora and do that.  The other persone that suggested asking on ##fedora may have the best advise but...
[08:57] <usr13> !lvm | chaotix
[08:57] <nvidiaubuntu> usr13: it looks like i need the 93 driver instead.
[08:57] <chaotix> no one is active in #fedora right now...  maybe omorro
[08:57] <usr13> nvidiaubuntu: jockey-gtk
[08:57] <chaotix> guess ill catch some sleep
[08:57] <nvidiaubuntu> usr13: that is installed
[08:57] <chaotix> thanks foir the link
[08:57] <nvidiaubuntu> usr13: what do i do with it
[08:57] <usr13> nvidiaubuntu: uninstall the previous one and run jockey-gtk
[08:58] <usr13> nvidiaubuntu: or go to nvidia.com and download from them.
[08:58] <ploo> hows 12.10?
[08:58] <ploo> all issues resolved?
[08:58] <usr13> !info jockey-gtk | nvidiaubuntu
[08:58] <usr13> !jockey-gtk | nvidiaubuntu
[08:59] <bazhang> http://ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/12.10   ploo
[08:59] <nvidiaubuntu> how do I run it on xfce?
[09:00] <nvidiaubuntu> usr13: i installed it with apt-get install jockey-gtk
[09:00] <nvidiaubuntu> then I typed jockey-gtk and it says its not installed
[09:00] <usr13> nvidiaubuntu: Alt-F2  and type in  jockey-gtk  #Or open at terminal, type  jockey-gtk  and hit Enter.
[09:00] <usr13> nvidiaubuntu: Just go to nvidia.com
[09:01] <usr13> nvidiaubuntu: Are you 32bit or 64bit?
[09:01] <Kartagis> !find libc.so.6
[09:02] <usr13> nvidiaubuntu: lspci |grep -i vga #Tell us what it says.
[09:05] <^DEMOSS^> anybody know specialist for repair my raid 5 on mdadm
[09:05] <usr13> magn3ts: If it the MX440, go to:   http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-96.43.23-driver.html
[09:05] <Vreim2k> any good games to ubuntu?
[09:05] <parapan> hello folks > please let me know what is the case when trying to set a linux based OS and the network card is taking the IP 0.0.0.0 ???
[09:05] <usr13> magn3ts: (And if you are 32bit.)
[09:06] <bazhang> !games | Vreim2k
[09:06] <usr13> nvidiaubuntu: (And if you are 32bit.)
[09:06] <bazhang> Vreim2k, check in the software center as well
[09:06] <Vreim2k> when u guys say "!" commands where do you want me to put that?
[09:06] <Vreim2k> is it the alt key?
[09:08] <magn3ts> Vreim2k: those are just shortcuts here in IRC
[09:08] <magn3ts> When we type them, ubottu gives you the info
[09:08] <Vreim2k> !games
[09:09] <Vreim2k> ahh
[09:09] <ubuntu-studio> BUENAS
[09:09] <usr13> Vreim2k: Yea, it calls up the bot
[09:09] <ubuntu-studio> hi
[09:10] <ubuntu-studio> bye
[09:12] <dr_willis> people seem to have a hard time noticeing the   cause/effect of ! commands and bot responses. ;)
[09:17] <mrHat> ok, so i'm trying to assign disk quotas on the users /home directory. After installing quota and quotatool I first started to edit the etc/fstab and added the following: UUID .. .. /home  ext4 defaults,errors=remount-ro,usrquota,grpquota, 0 0. All good, saved the file and did a mount -o remount /home and then i rebooted. Now when i try to login to x i get "Could not update ICEauthority file
[09:17] <mrHat> /home/xxxx/.ICEauthority" followed by several other error messages. Then i logged in to console and saw that i now have /home/home with all the profiles there. What just happened and how to fix it as i tried everything from permissions and chown
[09:18] <dr_willis> hmm. anyone else notice these big 'anouncements' like on the ubuntu tablet.. basically are anounceing  that they are going to be doing more anounceing.. and dont really say a lot? ;)
[09:18] <ub1> cia
[09:19] <guest-CSSOmU> hey
[09:19] <cfhowlett> guest-CSSOmU, greetings
[09:19] <nvidiaubuntu> hey usr13 now my nvidia x settings doesn't say its being used but I still can display any graphics things
[09:19] <guest-CSSOmU> how r u gorden
[09:19] <dr_willis> mrHat:  your  /home/ is on its own partition?
[09:19] <nvidiaubuntu> Couldn't set video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual
[09:19] <nvidiaubuntu> undert: Couldn't set video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual
[09:20] <nvidiaubuntu> usr13: Couldn't set video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual
[09:20] <mrHat> dr_willis is what i wanted to do
[09:20] <jacklk> I have a document named "Using E-mail In Buisness.doc" which I made in Windows. On Linux, when using the terminal, it can't recognise it due to the spaces. Is there a way to be able to use it in the terminal without renaming it?
[09:21] <dr_willis> mrHat:  but Is it on its own partition?    i cant think of why it did  what it did.. so im just verifying
[09:21] <mrHat>  no its not
[09:21] <martin3z> anyony try ubuntu with phone? any success?
[09:21] <dr_willis> jacklk:  command 'thing with spaces.doc'
[09:22] <dr_willis> mrHat:  so how can you  have a seperate entry for /home/ in fstab when its not a partition.  seems like you need to apply the quota options to the / mountpoint not  /home
[09:22] <dr_willis> i dont even see how  you remounted /home/ if its not on its own partition
[09:23] <jacklk> dr_willis: so I quote it if it has spaces?
[09:23] <danieledipisaITA> buongiorno a tutti
[09:23] <cfhowlett> !it|danieledipisaITA,
[09:23] <dr_willis> jacklk:  thats what i showed. ;) yes.. or escape the spaces with a \     or was it /    if you use the TAB key it will complete the name using the proper  \ escapes
[09:23] <danieledipisaITA> ok sorry
[09:24] <dr_willis> jacklk:  cp foo<tab>   will complete the name
[09:25] <Kartagis> what's the command to find out what <package> provides?
[09:26] <TakeItEZ> Kartagis: dpkg -L package
[09:26] <TakeItEZ> Kartagis: dpkg -S file to find the package                apt-file search for stuff being not installed
[09:26] <Kartagis> TakeItEZ: what if <package> is not installed?
[09:27] <TakeItEZ> Kartagis: apt-file search ...
[09:27] <dr_willis> ;) gotta love it when you  answer their next question befor they ask it...
[09:27] <dr_willis> apt-file is very  handy
[09:28] <TakeItEZ> unfortunately not installed by default
[09:28] <dr_willis> yea. apt-file has to dowload some data files. so its a bit of a luxery
[09:28] <Kartagis> TakeItEZ: apt-cache search libc* returns libc-dev as well, but apt-file libc-dev doesn't return anything
[09:28] <TakeItEZ> Kartagis: man apt-file
[09:28] <dr_willis> apt-file is for specific file names ibelive
[09:29] <dr_willis> similer to ubotus !find feature.  wonder if !fine uses apt-file
[09:29] <Kartagis> search Search in which package a file is included.
[09:29] <Kartagis> this is not what I'm looking for
[09:29] <rohdef> if I in a libreoffice writer document have a table and want to do a new line after the table  (accidentally deleted the one there was last time I edited), how do I do that?
[09:30] <AirCombat> please help! I just installed ubuntu-server and my nvidia card seems to be really acting up. GUI won't start. I've tried installing many new nvidia drivers but I'm getting strange errors now.
[09:30] <Kartagis> I wanna know what binaries <package> provides
[09:30] <rohdef> I see no way I can select so the character is right after the table in stead of inside it
[09:30] <TakeItEZ> Kartagis: apt-file show package
[09:30] <cfhowlett> rohdef, ctrl-z is usually the undo command
[09:30] <dr_willis> AirCombat:  ubuntu server dosent have a gui by default.. how did you  install the desktop?
[09:30] <angs> I did " sudo add-apt-repository ppa:germia/archive3  " how can I undo the setting?
[09:30] <rohdef> cfhowlett, last time I edited = the document has been closed ><
[09:30] <AirCombat> oh... I did not know that. what's the command to install GNOME again?
[09:31] <dr_willis> rohdef:  i thought you carefully clicked at the end of the table.. and kept on typeing...
[09:31] <Kartagis> most strange
[09:31] <AirCombat> I installed from the newest image at ubuntu.com .. unetbootin, then install
[09:31] <venkannareddy> HackerZedi
[09:31] <dr_willis> AirCombat:  if you want the full unity desktop install the 'ubuntu-desktop' package
[09:31] <AirCombat> okay thanks
[09:31] <dr_willis> AirCombat:  why dident you use a desktop  cd if you want a desktop?
[09:32] <AirCombat> I'll go to another terminal and try that
[09:32] <AirCombat> because I need the server function. just learning. dual-boot with windows at this point
[09:32] <dr_willis> AirCombat:  you can install services on the desktop....
[09:32] <rohdef> dr_willis,  works if it's the end of the document, here it's two tables that is visually merged because of the no new line
[09:32] <dr_willis> its easier then installing   the desktop on a server. ;)
[09:33] <AirCombat> yeah I know, but how else will I learn ;)
[09:33] <kanyl> Anyone know if it's possible to unrar .part.rar files one by one, and pipe them to a file to join them?
[09:33] <dr_willis> rohdef:  so you  need to carefully click btween them?  there is a libreoffice channel i belive that may know of a easier way to do ig.
[09:33] <Kartagis> TakeItEZ: even if it's installed, apt-file show <package> doesn't return anything :S
[09:33] <rohdef> dr_willis, but if that works, I can probably cheat it with cut, new line, then paste, but that seems overly complicated compared to what I want
[09:33] <dr_willis> !manual | AirCombat
[09:33] <TakeItEZ> Kartagis: sudo apt-file update
[09:33] <TakeItEZ> Kartagis: then try again
[09:33] <AirCombat> can I pick the GNOME after this installs or is that a separate package?
[09:33] <rohdef> dr_willis, couldn't find the libreoffice channel :(
[09:33] <AirCombat> thanks dr_willis
[09:33] <dr_willis> Unity uses gnome AirCombat
[09:34] <dr_willis> Unity is a shell for gnome3 actually ;)
[09:34] <AirCombat> I know, but on my other desktop I switched to a different one, I like it a lot better. sorry I'm tired that didn't make a lot of sense
[09:34] <AirCombat> and actually, this computer should handle the full 3d unity better.
[09:35] <angs> how can  I undo " sudo add-apt-repository ppa:germia/archive3  "
[09:35] <AirCombat> once ubuntu-desktop is installed, if I just reboot will it autoatically use unity or do I have to edit the boot config?
[09:35] <nvidiaubuntu> hey I am having issues with my graphics driver for my geforce4 mx 440 apg 8x
[09:36] <nvidiaubuntu> I installed the correct drivers and the settings panel seems to recognize them being used by I cant get any graphics programs to load such as glxgears
[09:38] <nvidiaubuntu> ugh
[09:38] <nvidiaubuntu> anyone?
[09:38] <AirCombat> nvidiaubuntu: just hold on a sec, I just had similar problems
[09:38] <AirCombat> just looking up the fix....
[09:39] <nvidiaubuntu> AirCombat: cool. my xorg looks fine I wish there was a way to confirm waht driver I was loading
[09:39] <AirCombat> are you on 12.10?
[09:40] <binarydog> i'm trying to install git-core but my apt-get/aptitude does not find any packages that I have not already installed
[09:40] <AirCombat> nvidiaubuntu: which version of ubuntu are you using?
[09:40] <dr_willis> nvidiaubuntu:  the xorg logs will tell you
[09:40] <AirCombat> nvidiaubuntu: try the command sudo lwhd | more and see if the graphcs card is using the newest driver as well
[09:40] <dr_willis> i dont even need a xorg.conf for most of my  nvidia sysems
[09:41] <nvidiaubuntu> AirCombat: 12.10
[09:41] <AirCombat> from what I've seen, 12.10 is not happy with nvidia cards for some reason. a lot of problems reported online
[09:41] <angs> when I type add-apt-repository, what file does it edit? I checked /etc/apt/source.lists but could not see the changes.
[09:41] <nvidiaubuntu> AirCombat: lwhd is not a command
[09:42] <AirCombat> sorry lshd
[09:42] <dr_willis> ive not had any issues with 12.10 and my nvidia systems. byt they are only like a year-2 yr old cards.. not really old ones.. or really  new ones. ;)
[09:42] <AirCombat> sorry lshw goddamit
[09:42] <AirCombat> yeah mine's almost brand new, about a month old
[09:42] <dr_willis> the card is newer then the OS. ;)
[09:42] <AirCombat> its 4:42 AM here... lol
[09:42] <AirCombat> yeah I know
[09:43] <Zuzuzuzuz> /ping
[09:43] <AirCombat> windows had a new nvidia driver release today and it seems that linux got the new drivers as well.. 310.14 I think
[09:43] <dr_willis> i tend to always get last years model. or whatever has just gotten replaced by a newer model. ;) better value for the $$$
[09:43] <Tm_T> dr_willis: AirCombat: hi (;
[09:43] <jacklk> Any way to change mouse cursor to black in Unity?
[09:43] <dr_willis> its hard to justify $100+ for a video card for a linux box
[09:44] <AirCombat> I only paid $65 for a 1gb DDR3 800MhZ clock
[09:44] <Bennit> Hi
[09:44] <marjinal1st> hi, how can i open CHM files in ubuntu 12.10?
[09:44] <cfhowlett> Bennit, greetings
[09:44] <AirCombat> its a nice card, even though it's low-spec
[09:44] <dr_willis> if i upgraded my card, id have to get a bigger power supply for the pc. ;)
[09:44] <Tm_T> dr_willis: AirCombat: I would ask you to move the offtopic chat to more suitable channels (:
[09:44] <Bennit> trying to get my graphics driver to work (ati saphite 69xx)
[09:44] <dr_willis> marjinal1st:  theres chm viewers in the repos/software center
[09:44] <Bennit> saphire*
[09:44] <dr_willis> !info gnochm
[09:45] <dr_willis> used to be a gnome-chm or somthing like that
[09:45] <dr_willis> !info xchm
[09:45] <Bennit> jockey reports that the fglrx driver is active and in use
[09:45] <Bennit> but when I type glxinfo, it gives the following error:
[09:45] <marjinal1st> dr_willis, what do you recommend?
[09:45] <amelien> coucou
[09:45] <dr_willis> marjinal1st:  flip a coin.. search the software center.. install somthing..
[09:45] <nvidiaubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1689220/
[09:45] <Bennit> http://pastebin.com/80hkY8kU
[09:45] <dr_willis> i cant recall the last time i needed to view a chm file
[09:46] <AirCombat> dr_willis: agreed, lol.
[09:46] <marjinal1st> ^^
[09:46] <dr_willis> !find chm2pdf
[09:46] <dr_willis> !info chm2pdf
[09:46] <AirCombat> yup. marjinal1st: sudo apt-get install chm2pdf
[09:46] <dr_willis> converting to pdf i recall made for some big pdfs
[09:47] <jacklk> Any way to change mouse cursor to black in Unity?
[09:47] <dr_willis> !info chm2html
[09:47] <dr_willis> jacklk:  ive seen some of the tweak tools/settings tools have a cursor theme setting.. but i dont recall where. check askubuntu.com perhaps
[09:47] <captine> hi all.  anyone able to help me troubleshoot apt-get error.  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1689235/
[09:47] <AirCombat> dr_willis: isnt it compiz-tweak-tool or something?
[09:48] <AirCombat> it has mouse settings
[09:48] <captine> i was trying to install ubuntu development sdk for the phone
[09:48] <AirCombat> I remember seeing black actually.
[09:48] <cfhowlett> !phone|captine,
[09:48] <dr_willis> i dont think its in ccsm. ubuntu-tweak or gnome-tweak-tool perhaps
[09:48] <captine> cfhowlett, thanks, i know.  the  dev sdk is out.  i tried installing it, and now my apt-get is broken
[09:49] <dr_willis> theres been on going issues where changeing the cursor theme dosent work well over the last few releases.. so i  never try changeing it
[09:49] <AirCombat> yeah, dr_willis is right actually, after I tried to change it, it never seemed to be quite right
[09:49] <AirCombat> so I just went back to stock.
[09:49] <jacklk> Unity should have a built in option, just like (most) over major desktop enviroment...
[09:49] <dr_willis> we need fancy animated cursors. :)
[09:50] <captine> cfhowlett, my install was "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-sdk notepad-qml " and now there is a dependency issue
[09:50] <dr_willis> its not really  been a big focus of the devs so no one has worked on it much
[09:50] <cfhowlett> captine, that should NOT break your apt-get
[09:50] <AirCombat> dr_willis: just for reference, is the package name compiz-tweak-tool or is it something else, I can't remember?
[09:50] <captine> cfhowlett, i cannot remove anything now etc.  something about a dependency and overwriting libqt4
[09:50] <dr_willis> AirCombat:  ccsm  has a !ccsm factoid ;)
[09:51] <johnsmith> Hello. I am using Ubuntu 12.04 with my ipod with OS version 4.2.1 model MCO86LL attempting to interact with rythmbox on a standard user account to pull music from my ipod and add it to my computers Music folder. Unfortunately, when I put in the ipod, it does one of three things: Refuses to mount, demounts immediately (as soon as I boot up rythmbox) or ejects itself and mounts itself over and over and over in rapid succession.
[09:51] <johnsmith> Anyone seen anything like this?
[09:51] <AirCombat> and how do I use that? just !ccsm?
[09:51] <AirCombat> !ccsm
[09:51] <AirCombat> there it is!! thanks dr_willis
[09:52] <dr_willis> AirCombat:  except the mouse cursor theme is not in the ccsm tool as far as i know. ;)
[09:52] <AirCombat> are you sure? just a day or two ago I thought I saw it in there. I'll check in a minute.
[09:52] <dr_willis> ccsm has that flames around the cursor effect however. ;)
[09:52] <johnsmith> The ipod isn't rooted, and it worked at one point from my administrator account.
[09:52] <AirCombat> dr_willis: (holy smokes, ubuntu-desktop still installing! big package!)
[09:53] <dr_willis> AirCombat:  actually its quite small.. but its all dependencies it pulls in
[09:53] <dr_willis> !info ubuntu-desktop
[09:53] <dr_willis> a 58k package that depends on  500+Mb of other packages
[09:55] <captine> has anyone experienced a clash of a file when installing something thru apt-get?  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1689235/
[09:56] <AirCombat> yeah, my total was like 1400M
[09:56] <captine> it is installing from a PPA
[09:56] <Bray90820> can someone help me get the batter indicator to show up again on my netbook
[09:57] <Bray90820> the deafult for ubuntu has a charging bug so i had to edit /etc/default/grub
[09:57] <Bray90820> i got the charging bug worked out but no battery indicator in the menubar anymore
[09:58] <dr_willis> does it show up for a newly made user?  could be it dosent think you are on battery.
[09:58] <paws> I chown -R www-data:www-data my /home/user/public_html and i chmod -R 775 my public_html and my apache is still telling me 403 forbidden... why is it doing this?
[09:59] <Tm_T> paws: try "sudo -u www-data ls /home/user/public_html"
[09:59] <Bray90820> i think your right
[09:59] <Tm_T> paws: you might notice that www-data doesn't have access to the full path
[09:59] <Bray90820> i dont think it doesn't think i have a battery
[09:59] <Tm_T> captine: that means ppa isn't in sync with other sources
[09:59] <Tm_T> captine: afterall there's only few supported ppa's out there
[09:59] <angs> apt-get source binutils outputs E: Ignore unavailable target release 'stable' of package 'binutils'.. uname -a > Linux ubuntu 3.5.0-23-generic #35-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jan 24 13:05:29 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[09:59] <Tm_T> if any
[10:00] <Bray90820> dr_willis do you wanna know exactly what i changed
[10:00] <angs> how can I get binutils?
[10:00] <paws> Tm_T: so what should my /home/user permission be? my user is added to the www-data group
[10:00] <dr_willis> Bray90820:  wont do much good i  imagine. :)  i rarely mess with linux  on laptops
[10:00] <Bray90820> it's a dell mini duo
[10:00] <dr_willis> Bray90820:  if it works on a new user. that would point to it being a user config  issue however.. and not a ssytem issue
[10:01] <Bray90820> the tablet netbook combo
[10:01] <paws> Tm_T: right now its at chmod 750
[10:01] <captine> Tm_T, ok. Thanks.  little frustrating as i installed it from http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/gomobile/ instructions
[10:01] <TakeItEZ> paws: it needs 755
[10:01] <captine> Tm_T, any idea how to fix it and remove the Ubuntu SDK Preview
[10:02] <TakeItEZ> paws: you are member of www-data but www-data is not member of your usergroup, so 750 fails
[10:02] <paws> TakeItEZ: would 750 let other users on my server access my /home/user dir?
[10:02] <TakeItEZ> paws: yes
[10:02] <paws> i dont want that..
[10:02] <dr_willis> read only
[10:02] <TakeItEZ> paws: no, sorry, 755 would
[10:03] <TakeItEZ> paws: then you might not use apache userdir
[10:06] <Bray90820> Still no battery on a new user
[10:06] <Bray90820> anyone else have an idea
[10:07] <Bray90820> im thinking it doesn't detect i have a battery
[10:07] <flintser> paws: you don't need to do any permission modding on /home/xxx/public_html, i implemented userdir mod like this: make public_html with index.html with 755 in /etc/skel, then always when i add new user i can see the new page at mywebpage/~user
[10:08] <max_> so, it all worked great, thanks dr_willis
[10:08] <TakeItEZ> flintser: that only works if yu haven't changed $HOME to 750 (755 is default)
[10:09] <paws> what is the default permission for the home dir? 755 ?
[10:09] <flintser> TakeItEZ: why home is 750?
[10:09] <TakeItEZ> paws: 755 yes
[10:09] <max_> however, I'm getting an error, my usb mouse isn't working and it keeps telling me khub:22 blocked for more than 120 seconds, and also usb:928 blocked for more than 120 seconds
[10:09] <TakeItEZ> flintser: because people don't like other users accessing their data
[10:09] <mvt007geek> hi people. i have a question. i need to use iozone to test btrfs file system.i formated sda6 to btrfs. i heard we should umount and then do the test. so i should go to /dev/sda6 then do the test.but i can't enter sda6.so iozone test /dev . not /dev/sda6                so i mount /dev/sda6 to /mnt and then i entered /mnt and did iozone test. did i do the right work? are the results true?
[10:10] <TakeItEZ> flintser: unfortunately that also locks apache out
[10:10] <flintser> TakeItEZ: so do people implement their webpages through ftp? or does everyone have local access
[10:10] <dr_willis> mvt007geek:  i thought the iozone docs showd testing a mounted filesytem
[10:10] <flintser> mine is with ftp and they chroot to their home dir so they cant acces anywhere
[10:11] <zefuros> hello guys i need some help here, everytime i connect to my WIFI with ubuntu 12.10 x64 the router drops down the WIFI
[10:11] <AirCombat> sorry, nnow that makes sense
[10:12] <mvt007geek> dr_willis: so doing test when the filesystem is mounted have no problem? and my results are true?
[10:12] <dr_willis> mvt007geek:  id have to refer you to the iozone homepage docs and faq.
[10:13] <Vreim2k> sup?
[10:13] <dr_willis> ive only skimmed the docs/man pages/faq/tutorials
[10:14] <flintser> TakeItEZ: ?
[10:14] <TakeItEZ> flintser: i don't know how his user work
[10:15] <flintser> oh sorry :D
[10:15] <flintser> paws: so do people implement their webpages through ftp? or does everyone have local access
[10:15] <flintser> mine is with ftp and they chroot to their home dir so they cant acces anywhere
[10:15] <paws> ssh and ftp
[10:16] <zefuros> hello guys i need some help here, everytime i connect to my WIFI with ubuntu 12.10 x64 the router drops down the WIFI
[10:16] <dr_willis> 'drops down the wifi' means what?
[10:16] <AirCombat> can anyone tell me how to reset/install basic USB mouse drivers?
[10:17] <flintser> paws: what was your problem then? i've done a few of apache2 userdir setups so i can maybe help
[10:17] <AirCombat> also, how to reinitialize USB controller?
[10:17] <dr_willis> remove then reload the proper modules perhaps
[10:17] <dr_willis> rmmod then modprobe them back
[10:18] <dr_willis> lsmod to show what ones are loaded
[10:18] <AirCombat> okay thanks :) I'll try that
[10:18] <paws> i just wanted chmod 750 so other users dont browse others home dirs but i will just keep it at 755
[10:18] <zefuros> dr_willis: means it seems like ubuntu are connected to my wifi but i dont have internet , plus the other devices i got here doesnt see the wifi at all
[10:19] <dr_willis> zefuros:  it would be very weird that connecting a ubuntu box over wifi would crash the router.. what brand router is it?
[10:19] <dr_willis> zefuros:  if you disconnect the ubuntu box. does the router come back up?
[10:19] <flintser> paws: you can prevent that with chroot in ftp. i don't know much about chrooting in ssh but it can be done too
[10:20] <Lynxx> how to i change the scrollbar colors in gnome shell?
[10:20] <Lynxx> i'm using ubuntu 12.10 btw
[10:20] <zefuros> dr_willis: the router is huawei echolife hg521, and no the only way to make it work again is to power off/on
[10:20] <paws> its okay, flintser i will just keep it at 755 no big deal :)
[10:20] <Bennit> ok fixed it, manually installed catalyst driver and removed some old links to nvidia stuff in the gl_conf update alternative
[10:20] <Lynxx> i've already tried using gnome color chooser , and the scrollbar will flash for a second but does not change/
[10:20] <flintser> so that problem is gone and you can have 755, unless they need access to /var/www and other stuff... then you need some symlinks and stuff
[10:21] <flintser> paws: ^ and ok then :)
[10:21] <Bray90820> Anyone know why ubuntu would not recognize that i am on a battery
[10:21] <JennyBlueBird> hi guys, I need Java for one specific website, what's the recommended way to install the browser plugin ?
[10:22] <dr_willis> JennyBlueBird:  the icedtea java is in the repoa
[10:22] <dr_willis> repos
[10:22] <dr_willis> !java | JennyBlueBird
[10:22] <Bray90820> i use teh iced jaja browser plugin from the software center
[10:22] <Bray90820> java
[10:22] <Bennit> I use iced-tea firefox plugin
[10:23] <Bennit> (which also works for chrome)
[10:23] <jacta> Can anyone help me, I have a problem where I cant type the same key within a short amount of time - its really slowing me down, can anyone point in a direction for this?
[10:23] <JennyBlueBird> drthank you, problem with google is you get so many bad hits :/
[10:23] <JennyBlueBird> dr_willis, *
[10:24] <JennyBlueBird> is that nick a megaman reference btw ?
[10:24] <dr_willis> JennyBlueBird:  hit up askubuntu.com first
[10:24]  * dr_willis is acctually Willis from Differnt Strokes...
[10:24] <jm-> YOU LIE
[10:25] <dr_willis> yea.. im actually Kimberly
[10:25] <dr_willis> ;P
[10:25] <jm-> :)
[10:26] <flintser> jacta: have you tried looking up ease of usage thingys like sticky keys and/or bounce keys and stuff like that
[10:27] <dr_willis> that does sound like that repeate-keys  thing in the accessabilty settings
[10:27] <flintser> jacta: http://people.gnome.org/~shaunm/ubuntu/a11y-bouncekeys.html
[10:28] <angs> apt-get source binutils outputs E: Ignore unavailable target release 'stable' of package 'binutils'.. uname -a > Linux ubuntu 3.5.0-23-generic #35-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jan 24 13:05:29 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux . how can I fix the problem?
[10:28] <dr_willis> angs:  'stable' is not a valid ubuntu release.. you got a line for 'stable' in your sources.list?
[10:29] <dr_willis> angs:  you havent missed in some debian repos?
[10:29] <Bray90820> Apparently the reason there is no battery status is because acpi is off
[10:29] <dr_willis> Bray90820:  that would do it.. also make your  battery life really suck i  bet
[10:30] <zefuros> dr_willis: got any ideas? or should i wait for something more expirienced? (no offence of course)
[10:30] <Bray90820> well for my netbook not to completely hang when i plug and unplug the charger acpi need to be off
[10:30] <dr_willis> zefuros:  for what? ;) i frogot the issue.
[10:30] <zefuros> dr_willis: aabout my huawei router blacksout when i connect with ubuntu 12.10 x64 on the wifi
[10:30] <dr_willis> Bray90820:  thats odd.. normally netbooks are very well supported they are all so similer.
[10:31] <Bray90820> it's a dell mini duo a netbook tablet combo
[10:31] <angs> dr_willis: I have quantal universe;main restricted;  multiverse. it does not have stable on the sources.list . I am trying to follow this instruction https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Toolchain/Crosscompilers/ARMEABIToolchain I got error on the step one. do you have any suggestion what I can do about it?
[10:31] <dr_willis> zefuros:  test with some other distros like puppylinux and tinycore linux perhaps. to see if they do the same thing. i would almost think its a router bug. not a ubuntu issue
[10:32] <dr_willis> angs:  ive never really  messed with development stuff.
[10:32] <zefuros> dr_willis: i think so as well cause recently i changed internet provider so router as well and then the problem occured , but what can i do and where can i speak for this kind of issue?
[10:32] <Bray90820> is there any way i could get it to work with acpi on
[10:33] <dr_willis> zefuros:  plug the old router back in.. see if it works
[10:33] <Bray90820> on some ubuntu based distros it works fine
[10:33] <jacta> Can no one help me with my problem with key delay? :S
[10:33] <Bray90820> one i know works is jolly os
[10:33] <dr_willis> zefuros:  or plug one router into the other.. and see if connecting to the old router works. ;)
[10:33] <dr_willis> Bray90820:  youmean JoliOS ?
[10:34] <zefuros> dr_willis: damn even knowing computer stuff i cant get you plus i hate the networks education xD
[10:34] <Bray90820> yes that
[10:34] <Bray90820> dr_willis yes
[10:34] <dr_willis> zefuros:  see if the old router works..  if it does.. go     isp -> newrouter -> oldrouter -> linuxboxs
[10:35] <dr_willis> my routers i can setup as a wireeless access point basically. not as a router.
[10:35] <dr_willis> so i can sort of chain them
[10:35] <TakeItEZ> Bray90820: what type/brand/model of laptop is that? does it need some special kernel-modules like this thinkpad (thinkpad_acpi) to work properly?
[10:35] <zefuros> dr_willis: its really time consuming this, plus i dont know how to make my old router work with my new internet provider neither i think it will do
[10:35] <dr_willis> zefuros:  Huh? you  just plug the router into your cable modem.. unless you  got some weird internet..
[10:36] <angs> dr_willis, is it possible to reset /etc/apt/sources.list and PPA settings?
[10:36] <dr_willis> Ive never had any issues with any routers and changeing isp or routers
[10:36] <dr_willis> angs:  theres default/sources.list generators online
[10:36] <dr_willis> as for ppas theres that ppa-purge command
[10:36] <dr_willis> !ppa-purge
[10:36] <angs> thank you dr_willis
[10:36] <zefuros> dr_willis: well my internet called ADSL and its basicly like this : my phone jack on the wall goes to a filter and one line to phone one line to router
[10:37] <dr_willis> err.. i think what you are calling a router is an ADSL modem....
[10:37] <dr_willis> unless its a adsl modem+router combo box.
[10:38] <Bray90820> TakeItEZ its a Dell Inspiron Duo d211-101302
[10:38] <Bray90820> TakeItEZ do you wanna know the exact edit i made to get the touch screen and charger working
[10:38] <zefuros> dr_willis: i dont know im not got with networks im usually on programming xD
[10:40] <dr_willis> bbl
[10:41] <TakeItEZ> Bray90820: did you try/use option "acpi_backlight=vendor"?
[10:41] <Bray90820> TakeItEZ what would taht do
[10:42] <TakeItEZ> Bray90820: seem to change the way the backlight is controlled on power-change ac/bat
[10:43] <TakeItEZ> Bray90820: idk if that really helps to fix your issues. but switching acpi off is a bad thing, and not needed in most cases
[10:44] <Bray90820> well it's not really the backlight that is the problem from what i can tell is it gives me a kernel panic
[10:45] <TakeItEZ> Bray90820: yes and this should (hopefully) prevent the kernel from crashing.
[10:46] <Bray90820> TakeItEZ what should i do
[10:46] <TakeItEZ> Bray90820: try this boot option and see what happens
[10:47] <Bray90820> try what
[10:47] <TakeItEZ> scroll back 8 lines
[10:48] <misaka00251> hi
[10:48] <lewik> I try to install Simon. It need qwt6. How I can install it? Kubuntu
[10:48] <Bray90820> ok
[10:48] <Bray90820> how would i enter it tho
[10:48] <MonkeyDust> !find simon
[10:49] <TakeItEZ> Bray90820: hold left shift to get grub-menu, press  "e" to edit the options. add that options after "quiet splash"
[10:49] <lewik> MonkeyDust: go link?
[10:49] <Bray90820> ok
[10:49] <Bray90820> i actually need to go to bed so i will try it tomorrow
[10:49] <lewik> MonkeyDust: no resilts
[10:50] <flintser> jacta: i said to you earlier what you could try. did you try it?
[10:50] <MonkeyDust> lewik  do you mean Simon for speech?
[10:50] <lewik> MonkeyDust: yes
[10:51] <MonkeyDust> lewik  is this useful http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/2012033103280939/Simon.html
[10:53] <lewik> MonkeyDust: There are 0.3.0  I downloaded 0.4.0    Shoud I dload 0.3.0 ?
[10:54] <maxygas> yo
[10:54] <asher^> hi, is there a way i can start a process from inside ssh but have it continue to run after i close the terminal window?
[10:54] <asher^> on a remote server
[10:55] <TakeItEZ> asher^: use screen
[10:55] <comp-user> asher, capistrano
[10:55] <MonkeyDust> lewik  as it is not in the repos, you should try which version suits your needs best
[10:55] <k1l_> asher^: use screen or nohup
[10:55] <misaka00251> OA
[10:55] <asher^> ill try that, thanks
[10:56] <jacta> flintser: i didnt see your message, hold on :)
[10:58] <jacta> flintser: !!! You found it!!!!!!!! THANKS!!!!!!!
[10:58] <jacta> it was driving me nuts, really!
[10:58] <asher^> can someone give me a tip on how to use screen to do this? im logging in to a remote server, want to start a process, then exit while keeping the process running. i have screen installed
[10:59] <dr_willis> screen + ssh = cake and icecream..  just goooood.  ;-)
[10:59] <ejv> asher^: http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/manual/screen.html
[10:59] <MonkeyDust> !screen
[10:59] <dr_willis> just run screen
[10:59] <TakeItEZ> asher^: "screen" then start your process, ctrl-a-d then to detach
[10:59] <ejv> stop reinforcing bad behavior, refer to the documentation!
[11:00] <MonkeyDust> i'm in screen too
[11:00] <dr_willis> byobu is a bit more user friendly
[11:00] <nashant> I think everyone should be in screen
[11:00] <Jimmy90210> does anyone know how to compile lyx against qt5?
[11:00] <dr_willis> run tmux in scteen
[11:00] <jpds> nashant: tmux.
[11:00] <jpds> dr_willis: screen is dead.
[11:01] <Jutas> Hi. In GNOME Shell Remix there is 1360x768 display resolution option but in Xubuntu there is no. Which file makes this difference?
[11:01] <nashant> jpds: looks interesting...
[11:01] <asher^> TakeItEZ, i just tried that, when i closed my terminal window it seemed to kill my process
[11:02] <Jimmy90210> asher^: ctrl-a d disconnects the session. read the manual
[11:03] <asher^> Jimmy90210, i am trying..
[11:04] <Jimmy90210> asher^: when you ssh back in, run the command 'screen -r' to reconnect
[11:04] <nashant> I'm having hdd issues. SMART says I've got errors (uncorrectable errors in data, the count is on 1158 so far!!), but running mke2fs -cc doesn't flag up any errors at all. Might I have a power problem? Got 5 sata disks running off a 650w
[11:04] <arunkumar413> sound output device shows dummy output
[11:05] <ejv> could be the disk, could be the controller, could be unstable power, could be anything without data.
[11:05] <nyuszika7h> I knew Ubuntu 10.04(.0) LTS is old, but I didn't know it's THAT old
[11:05] <nashant> ejv, what sort of data can I provide?
[11:05] <nyuszika7h> over 500 updates from lucid-security
[11:06] <purplerain> !resolution | Jutas
[11:06] <nyuszika7h> why not use 'service' instead of /etc/init.d/?
[11:07] <nyuszika7h> afaik calling /etc/init.d/ directly is deprecated, because of environment clutter and stuff
[11:08] <Jutas> thanks
[11:08] <Jutas> what do you mean service nyuszika
[11:09] <nyuszika7h> Jutas: sudo service ?dm restart
[11:10] <nyuszika7h> init.d works, but last time I used it I got some notice that calling 'service' instead is recommended
[11:10] <Ciphoenix> hello. I'm having a problem with dual booting ubuntu and windows 8.
[11:10] <nashant> ejv: http://pastebin.com/a765qMW1
[11:11] <Ciphoenix> I installed and ran boot repair still ubuntu won't boot
[11:11] <Alocer> Ciphoenix, what kind of problem
[11:11] <Alocer> Ciphoenix, u mean grub repair ?
[11:11] <lolmaus> I would like to put a command into cron. How do i make that command write its output into a file?
[11:12] <Jutas> the manual which ubottu said says  a) .xprofile, b) kdm/gdm, c) xorg.conf.. I'm on xfce so kdm/gdm not good. I don't have xorg.conf so there must be option a.,
[11:12] <nashant> Can anyone shed any light on my hdd woes please? http://pastebin.com/a765qMW1
[11:12] <Ciphoenix> was given this url http://paste.ubuntu.com/1679407
[11:12] <Alocer> Jutas, create one
[11:12] <TakeItEZ> lolmaus: command >/path/foo 2>&1
[11:13] <Jutas> Alocer. I did. We did. 4 people from IRC channel. Didn't help
[11:13] <Ciphoenix> Alocer boot repair with the ubuntu secure disc
[11:13] <Jutas> sudo service ?dm restart. what is the question mark for?
[11:13] <lolmaus> TakeItEZ, thank you.
[11:14] <Alocer> Ciphoenix, do u know if boot repair will repair your mba or  /boot ?
[11:15] <nyuszika7h> help!
[11:15] <Alocer> TakeItEZ, command will output to foo but what is the 2>&1 for ?
[11:15] <nyuszika7h> apt-get: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: cannot read file data: Invalid argument
[11:15] <nyuszika7h> Alocer: it's for redirecting errors to the standard output stream.
[11:15] <TakeItEZ> Alocer: it will also redirect stderr
[11:16] <Alocer> ty
[11:16] <Alocer> understood :-)
[11:16] <Ciphoenix> Alocer don't know where the problem is
[11:16] <TakeItEZ> Alocer: 1 stdou, 2 stderr
[11:16] <arunkumar413> sound output device shows dummy output
[11:16] <TakeItEZ> stdout*
[11:17] <hpuser2323> How do I mount my android phone (LG Optimus p970) in ubuntu?   I want to browse/mod the phone's filesystem.
[11:17] <Alocer> hpuser2323, this is not the correct room to ask but u can use google , there is tons of articles for that ;-)
[11:18] <Alocer> hpuser2323, join android ;-)
[11:18] <hpuser2323> well i need ubuntu specifally to mount my phone.
[11:19] <Alocer> u need ubuntu and linux to compile android source try joining android room
[11:19] <TakeItEZ> hpuser2323: i guess you'll need mtp-tools and mtp-fs
[11:19] <k1l_> hpuser2323: you need adb shell for that
[11:20] <k1l_> (if you mean browsing in the shell. there is no browsing for the root folder in gui)
[11:20] <Alocer> Ciphoenix, i think u should reinstall grub on ur boot partition ;-)
[11:21] <Ciphoenix> Alocer . had to enable legacy support to be able to boot from live cd. installed grub2 in /boot
[11:21] <k1l_> hpuser2323: install "adb-tools-adb" if you are running 12.10
[11:21] <Alocer> Ciphoenix, is /boot the active partition ?
[11:21] <hpuser2323> k1l_  ok installing..
[11:21] <Ciphoenix> but I keep getting this error when I select ubuntu fron the boot menu
[11:22] <Alocer> what error the link u gave before ? Ciphoenix
[11:22] <arunkumar413> i'm not able to hear any sound from  my notebook. the output device says dummy output
[11:22] <AirCombat> oh man, I'm having a weird problem... I'm connected to the internet but connection manager shows no active wired or wireless connections ... and I never even gave ubuntu my wireless password!!! is it auto-reading it from windows install or something?!
[11:23] <Alocer> AirCombat, WTF 0.O
[11:23] <Ciphoenix> it's a primary partition. no, the boot menu error is different.  says there's a file missing. Alocer
[11:23] <AirCombat> yeah tell me about it. before I installed the GUI I was using IRC on command line... and I was like, wait, how am I even online right now?!?!
[11:23] <khirod> i had installed oracle-xe-universal 10g using a debian package, but due to some reason I uninstalled it using "sudo apt-get remove oracle-xe-universal" but it seems that it is not removed completely and during startup I can see that some error about Oracle Net Listener....
[11:23] <Alocer> okey found it Ciphoenix u should install grub 2 on sda partition
[11:24] <AirCombat> it's very strange... and I don't even know where to begin with drivers...
[11:24] <Alocer> your MBR
[11:24] <khirod> How can I remove that
[11:24] <superdo> hi
[11:25] <superdo> any hint how to set Gnome commander text viewer (F3) to bigger size?
[11:25] <Ciphoenix> Alocer . okay. won't that cause some conflict with the windows boot manager?
[11:25] <Alocer> AirCombat, is your OS installed in VMWare or VirtualBox ?
[11:25] <Alocer> Ciphoenix, that will replace the windows boot manager
[11:25] <AirCombat> no
[11:25] <AirCombat> dual-boot with Vista.
[11:25] <AirCombat> ubuntu server 12.10...
[11:26] <Alocer> Ciphoenix, u wont have any windows boot manager
[11:26] <Alocer> AirCombat, there is something missing . u are connected to wireless that mmeans your ssid without giving your password ? right ?
[11:27] <AirCombat> Alocer: my thoughts exactly.
[11:27] <AirCombat> I mean my router has WPA but usually you have to go press the button for that to work.
[11:27] <AirCombat> sorry WPS*
[11:28] <superdo> ok got it.
[11:28] <Ciphoenix> but I'll still be able to boot into windows 8, right? Alocer
[11:28] <Alocer> Ciphoenix, yes
[11:29] <Alocer> AirCombat, impossible how is that possible . the possibilities are : 1. your ssid dosent have password 2. your are connected to another ssid which doesnt have pass 3. wps had worked withour pressing button :-D
[11:30] <AirCombat> I know you'll think I'm crazy, but I know for a fact none of those three are possible. I KNOW my router's password is still on, just checked with my tablet... there are no other open networks around, and WPS is actually set to off right now. even if WPS was working, it should still show up in Wireless connections
[11:30] <AirCombat> like, I'm confrizzled here...
[11:30] <AirCombat> I can even show you screenshots to prove it, lol
[11:31] <vedic1> I have a script that I want to run at server boot time (same like other services in init.d runs). How to do that?
[11:32] <AirCombat> !screenshot
[11:32] <Ciphoenix> Alocer_away  I found the error message.
[11:32] <Ciphoenix> file: /NST/AutoNeoGrub0.mbr
[11:32] <Alocer_away> AirCombat, lol but no your not crazy maybe drunk and your not seeing the cable that is connected to your system :D
[11:33] <Alocer_away> ok i m doone here and i need to go just telling you of you are using laptop with default win 8 on it dont reinstall grub2 on MBR
[11:33] <Alocer_away> byebye all
[11:33] <AirCombat> I just checked that too, my onboard LAN is fried anyway and the PCI LAN card is in the other desktop now...
[11:33] <AirCombat> man this is weird.
[11:33] <Alocer_away> sry AirCombat and Ciphoenix
[11:34] <AirCombat> http://imagebin.org/247406 http://imagebin.org/247407 http://imagebin.org/247408
[11:34] <AirCombat> look for yourself...
[11:37] <AirCombat> anyone check out my imagebin's? am I going nuts or is ubuntu managing the connections somewhere else??
[11:39] <AirCombat> ... rather quiet in here suddenly, lol.
[11:39] <Ciphoenix> lol
[11:39] <AirCombat> Ciphoenix: did you look at my imagebins?
[11:39] <AirCombat> I can't figure out why there's no active connections
[11:42] <Myrtti> AirCombat: could you pastebin what sudo lshw -C network prints
[11:44] <Ciphoenix> AirCombat your pastebin doesn't show any wired connection
[11:44] <heliosx> test
[11:44] <heliosx> test test
[11:44] <heliosx> anyone's not a bot here?
[11:45] <k1l_> !ask | heliosx
[11:45] <jellow> Is there a reason iftop even with -p would not see other network traffic?
[11:47] <AirCombat> okay hold on
[11:48] <AirCombat> here
[11:48] <AirCombat> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1690094/
[11:48] <AirCombat> all that info is correct, or so it seems.
[11:48] <battlefield3> someone can help me?
[11:50] <Alocer> AirCombat, did u manage to find the missing mystery key ? ?
[11:51] <AirCombat> nope, just showed Myrtti this:
[11:51] <AirCombat> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1690094/
[11:51] <AirCombat> no response yet, people are sleepy I guess :P
[11:51] <AirCombat> that was sudo lshw -C network
[11:51] <Ciphoenix> alocer: welcome back. did you say not to install grub2 in mbr for systems that came with windows 8?
[11:52] <Alocer> Ciphoenix, yes sry to get u in trouble
[11:52] <Alocer> Ciphoenix, becuz they have preinstalled recovery driver and u can not access that
[11:53] <Ciphoenix> Alocer :so What're my options here
[11:53] <Alocer> AirCombat, a big funny mystery lol
[11:54] <Alocer> Ciphoenix, use some partition managers to change your system and tell it to boot from /dev/sda1 or your boot device /boot
[11:54] <Myrtti> oh, damn, I just went to put socks on
[11:55] <Alocer> nooo why he left ??
[11:55] <Ciphoenix> can you suggest one?
[11:56] <Alocer> Ciphoenix, i dont now much about these things
[11:56] <Alocer> Ciphoenix, let me search a bit ;)
[11:57] <Ciphoenix> sure :)
[11:57] <battlefield3> Ciphoenix, i have
[11:57] <battlefield3> steam
[11:57] <battlefield3> i downloaded team fortress 2
[11:58] <battlefield3> but the game dont show pictures, only sound
[11:58] <Ciphoenix> steam?
[11:59] <Ciphoenix> battlefield3 where did you download from?
[11:59] <battlefield3> i downloaded for steam
[11:59] <codeadi_> help
[12:00] <battlefield3> Chiphoenix
[12:00] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:02] <Alocer> Ciphoenix, i m not sure but gparted and make sure what u are doing
[12:02] <Alocer> dont forget of a backup
[12:03] <battlefield3> Ciphoenix, help me :)
[12:03] <leifcr> Anyone seen this SSHD rootkit affecting centos, fedora, cloudlinux ?http://www.cloudlinux.com/blog/clnews/sshd-exploit.php ?
[12:03] <Alocer> nice trick :D
[12:04] <silv3r_m00n> what is the difference between ubuntu software center and synaptic ?
[12:08] <AirborneCav> Hi, anyone be able to help me with conkys?
[12:09] <dr_willis> Conky?
[12:09] <dr_willis> tons of guides and sites and examples of using conky out there.
[12:10] <AirborneCav> I have followed the guide on installing / customising but something not working right
[12:11] <dr_willis> my fave conky thang -> http://helmuthdu.deviantart.com/art/CONKY-COLORS-244793180
[12:11] <AirborneCav> as in it won't use the .conkyrc
[12:11] <dr_willis> tell it to use the .conkyrc via  the command line? and look for error messages?
[12:12] <AirborneCav> sorta new to command line, how would I tell it to use .conkyrc
[12:12] <dr_willis> conky --config=/path/to/your/.conkyrc
[12:12] <AirborneCav> ahh thanks lol
[12:12] <dr_willis> its just a file in your home directory
[12:12] <dr_willis> conky --help   is worth reading. ;)
[12:12] <dr_willis> You did make a .conkyrc?
[12:12] <AirborneCav> I did
[12:12] <dr_willis> and where is it? ;)
[12:12] <AirborneCav> its sitting in home
[12:13] <AirborneCav> not my user home but home
[12:13] <AirborneCav> tried both
[12:13] <dr_willis> err.. what other home is there?
[12:13] <AirborneCav> as in / home / user
[12:13] <AirborneCav> but its in home
[12:13] <jellow> any tools that can help me track down network hogs?
[12:13] <dr_willis>  the file goes in your users /home/username/ directory
[12:13] <^DEMOSS^> anybody can help me with information for specialist, whose can help me restore my raid 5 on mdadm ? http://pastebin.com/4wDZTKbq  \  http://pastebin.com/nrfnLF1L  \\  http://pastebin.com/TY0SJvzj
[12:14] <dr_willis> ls -l  ~/.conkyrc     should show it
[12:14] <AirborneCav> give me 2 secs
[12:15] <AirborneCav> your sure its in home is in usr?
[12:16] <dr_willis> I never said home is in usr
[12:16] <AirborneCav> pretty sure username is in home
[12:16] <AirborneCav> ...
[12:16] <dr_willis> your USERS home are in /home/YOURUSERNAME
[12:16] <AirborneCav> well its in home
[12:16] <AirborneCav> not username
[12:16] <dr_willis> thats not the same as usr or user
[12:16] <AirborneCav> sorta newish to linux
[12:16] <dr_willis> give the FULL path you are talking about
[12:17] <dr_willis> what is your users name?
[12:17] <AirborneCav> marek@linux:/home
[12:17] <AirborneCav> thats where I have placed it
[12:18] <dr_willis>    /home/ is NOT the same as /home/marek
[12:18] <dr_willis> marek is your users name.. his home is /home/marek
[12:18] <dr_willis> all your users files belong in /home/marek
[12:18] <AirborneCav> which I have tried the .conkyrc in there as well
[12:19] <dr_willis> the /home/ directory contains all the users.
[12:19] <dr_willis> so do  conky --config=/home/marek/.conkyrc
[12:19] <dr_willis> it dosent have to be named .conkyrc you could name it anything if you tell conky what one to use
[12:21] <AirborneCav> just follwing the installing guide on Ubuntu website
[12:21] <AirborneCav> but it has seemed to work
[12:21] <AirborneCav> might need to edit it a little
[12:21] <dr_willis> you just need to tell it where .conkyrc is at and you dont hacve to use the name .conkyrc  I have a Conky directory with differnt configs.
[12:22] <dr_willis> so i do a conky --config=/home/dr_willis/Conky/setup1.conky
[12:22] <battlefield3> hello, i downloaded team fortress 2 for steam, but dont show picture
[12:22] <dr_willis> and  i do a conky --config=/home/dr_willis/Conky/setup2.conky
[12:22] <dr_willis> show what picture?
[12:22] <AirborneCav> might need to do that thanks, Thanks Dr
[12:23] <battlefield3> dr_willis, dont show video
[12:24] <battlefield3> is black
[12:24] <ypahnu> hi all. what's regegEdit in ubuntu? how can I reuse a trial veersion software over and over?
[12:24] <Alocer> ypahnu, what software ?
[12:25] <dr_willis> you mean the flash preview battlefield3 ?
[12:25] <dr_willis> in the store
[12:25] <ypahnu> it's a free trial stream media server
[12:25] <dr_willis> ypahnu:  you mean like windows 'regedit' ?
[12:25] <ypahnu> ya.. I need to remove key to get reinstall it again
[12:25] <ypahnu> how it would be in ubuntu?
[12:26] <battlefield3> dr_willis,  i use ubuntu
[12:26] <dr_willis> theres not a regiestry in linux.. gnome has its settings thats similer.. but i doubt if the app is doing anything in there
[12:26] <dr_willis> battlefield3:  yes.. that makes sence... most of us in here are using Ubuntu..
[12:26] <battlefield3> dr_willis, the game ope whit OpenGL
[12:26] <dr_willis> The steam client has issues with flash. no game videos in the store for anyone. there may be some fixs.. if thats what you mean.
[12:26] <ypahnu> when installing apps need to know how many time left .. or if was allready intaled?
[12:27] <dr_willis> ypahnu:  if its not from the repos.. the app could be doing most anything.. it could be logging to its own server..
[12:27] <ypahnu> so I beleave it's something like regeEdit
[12:27] <dr_willis> ypahnu:  look for its config files or other files in your home.
[12:27] <battlefield3> dr_willis, ¿what program may use?
[12:28] <ypahnu> dr_willis: so there's nothing like regeedit in ubuntu?
[12:28] <dr_willis> battlefield3:  what?  Tf2 plays fine for me in steam
[12:28] <savagecroc> Computer A has no external internet access.  Computer B can ssh onto Computer A.  How can Computer B perform an apt-get upgrade on Computer A?
[12:28] <eduardo__> lisa_m baro in master branch ?
[12:28] <dr_willis> ypahnu:  gnome has its config editor.. but theres no Universial regiestry in linux..
[12:28] <dr_willis> ypahnu:  it could be just saving a simple text file in your home directory
[12:28] <ypahnu> dr_willis: so it's only in home folder? after I remove?  how can trace witch files change wile installing?
[12:29] <sdfg> What does everyone use linux?
[12:29] <battlefield3> dr_willis,  tell you my computer features
[12:30] <ui_> ypahnu: install in a virtual machine. That won't work in all cases, but will leave your system clean.
[12:31] <savagecroc> hey.. so anyone know how to upgrade a machine without internet access?
[12:31] <ui_> when it's done, reset the VM state and pray.
[12:31] <battlefield3> dr_willis,
[12:31] <savagecroc> i was thinking something like.. download all the packages and copy them to /var/cache/apt/archives? would that work?
[12:32] <ui_> savagecroc: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Offline/Repository
[12:33] <savagecroc> excellent
[12:33] <ui_> !offline
[12:33] <dr_willis> ypahnu: depends on how you are installing it..
[12:33] <b_10> Hi, can somebody help me? I'm using Ubuntu 12.xx and it doesnt show the side/top bar when the OS starts.. Only thing I can use is the terminal.. It gives an error at the startup "No system tray detected on this system.". I did install a theme before this happened, but now I disabled it and it didnt help..
[12:34] <dr_willis> b_10:  if a newly made user. and the guest user work.. then its a user setting issue. You could delete the various setting files in your users home (move them to a backup directory) then log out/in and see if it helps
[12:34] <battlefield3> dr_willis, "!!!!
[12:34] <dr_willis> battlefield3:  yes?
[12:35] <b_10> dr_willis: Thanks, I'll try with a guest user :)
[12:35] <dr_willis> b_10:  the .Xauthority file is a common problem maker
[12:35] <dr_willis> b_10:  then stuff in the users .config   directory and .compiz
[12:42] <b_10> dr_willis: I tried with a guest user, and it wasnt any better, and I dont know how to make a new user via terminal..
[12:42] <dr_willis> sudo adduser billgates
[12:42] <dr_willis> ;)
[12:43] <jack__> hello people..
[12:45] <dr_willis> Hello person
[12:46] <Promille> Hm. Status in irssi is "3:#ubuntu(+CLcfjnt #ubuntu-unregged 5:10)" What does that mean?
[12:46] <jack__> hello
[12:46] <dr_willis> the +C stuff is channel modes. ;)  #ubuntu-unr4egged is where yoi can get bounced to...
[12:46] <dr_willis> No idea on the rest. ;)
[12:47] <b_10> dr_willis: I tried with a new user also.. Didn't get the top/side bars, and did get the "No system tray detected" -error..
[12:48] <jack__> @<b_10> whats problem?
[12:48] <dr_willis> That is weird.. you sure all you did was install a theme? sounds like video driver issues
[12:48] <Promille> dr_willis: Thanks. But _can_ get bounced to?
[12:49] <b_10> dr_willis: One other thing I did was that i installed a "Additional drivers" package for nvidia and activated one of them.. But I uninstalled it after this problem came
[12:49] <Gerben> Hello. I have a question. I want to back-up my encrypted homedir. Would it be enough to backup /home/.ecryptfs ? Or will that restore "inconsistent"
[12:49] <Gerben> I'll be using Bacula for backup
[12:49] <jack__> @Gerben : u can take up /home/*
[12:50] <Gerben> that will backup both the encrypted and, if mounted, decrypted homedir
[12:50] <Gerben> I think..
[12:50] <b_10> jack__: I'm getting "No system tray detected on this system" -error on OS starup, and I dont see the "top bar" or the "side bar"..
[12:51] <backbox> backbox
[12:54] <goranek> hi guys
[12:54] <b_10> jack__: I got this problem after installing quite a lot of stuff (to avoid rebooting so much).. I installed a "Additional drivers" -package from software-center, and activated one of the NVIDIA things there.. I also installed this theme http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Zukitwo?content=140562 via ubuntu-tweaks
[12:55] <goranek> 1
[12:58] <b_10> jack__: And to install the theme i had to run a lot of commands like "sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-murrine gtk2-engines-pixbuf", .. and I also installed "gnome-themes-standard", "gnome-panel" and "gnome-tweak-tool"...
[12:58] <goranek> Irssi is hard :)
[12:58] <Promille> goranek: How so :) ? Anything you need help with?
[12:58] <goranek> It seems that it's in conflict with DWM..
[12:58] <goranek> Switching tabs is made with ALT + NUM right?
[12:59] <goranek> The same as with DWM
[12:59] <Promille> DWM = console ?
[12:59] <Promille> (terminal)
[12:59] <goranek> DWM = WN :)
[12:59] <goranek> *WM
[12:59] <cads> hey guys
[12:59] <goranek> http://dwm.suckless.org/
[13:00] <dr_willis> goranek:  i perfer weechat  over irssi
[13:00] <cads> does anyone know why the 32 bit distribution is considered reccommended for download at the ubuntu site?
[13:00] <cads> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[13:00] <dr_willis> b_10:  you most likely want the nvidia drivers installed if you have an nvidia chipset/video card
[13:00] <cads> I am installing on a 64 bit machine - is 32 bit ubuntu still preffered for some reason?
[13:01] <cfhowlett> cads, 32 bit bill run on 64 bit computers.  not the other way around.  if your computer can run 64 bit, install 64 bit
[13:01] <dr_willis> b_10:  you may also want to try renameing your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to some backup name.   sudo mv foo foo.backup
[13:01] <dr_willis> cads:  its idiot proofing for people that dont know what 64 and 32bit mean
[13:01] <goranek> anyone know a good terminal(ncurses) download manager? i hate to use chromium for this
[13:01] <dr_willis> goranek:  wget
[13:01] <Promille> goranek: Ah, allright. IÃ'm not familiar with that. But you change windows with ALT + NUM, yeah. But you can probably change that in ~/.irssi/config
[13:02] <goranek> wget is too simple
[13:02] <cads> dr_willis: I had a feeling that's what it was
[13:02] <goranek> i'm not considering it as an download manager :)
[13:02] <dr_willis> gee can you be any less vague then. ;P
[13:02] <dr_willis> !info curl
[13:03] <goranek> wget > curl for downloading files, but that's not what i've asked for :)
[13:03] <goranek> something like rtorrent but for files :)
[13:03] <goranek> *files = http
[13:04] <goranek> any other recommendation? :)
[13:05] <Naphatul> what's the main difference between lts and the other releases? does lts only get security updates or does it get other updates only later?
[13:06] <lunitik> Naphatul: that actually depends on how you set it up, the main difference is that you get more support, it has been built to be supportable.
[13:06] <Naphatul> what do you mean how i set it up?
[13:06] <lunitik> Naphatul: non-LTS releases are something of a moving target.
[13:06] <lunitik> Naphatul: you can have it install backports and the like just like anything else, for instance, or just security updates... it depends on you
[13:07] <Naphatul> ah i meant whats the difference on default installs
[13:08] <dr_willis> Once a release has been made.. basically only security updates happen.  with a few exceptiopns..
[13:08] <dr_willis> lts gets them longer
[13:08] <dr_willis> !lts
[13:08] <cfhowlett> Naphatul, if you MUST have cutting edge, then be prepared to get cut.  If you want a reliable boot and functional device with support for the long-haul, go with LTS.
[13:08] <cfhowlett> IMHO
[13:09] <lunitik> cfhowlett: even that is not really true, an LTS .0 release is just as bleeding edge as anything else really
[13:09] <lunitik> Granted most LTS users skip those
[13:09] <Naphatul> i don't want cutting edge but i don't want packages that are old as debian testing either
[13:09] <dr_willis> they do tend to get a bit wilder with the non-lts releases. ;)
[13:10] <lunitik> Naphatul: Debian testing isn't old - although they are trying to release right now so things might be getting older, I haven't looked in a while
[13:10] <dr_willis> Naphatul:  stick with the every 6 mo releases then perhaps
[13:10] <cfhowlett> lunitik, my updates schedule is the first point release of LTS, thus every two years I get to experience the pain that many folk choose to endure every 6 months.  Much as I love Ubuntu, I don't have the time, patience, knowledge or inclination to subject myself to that if I don't have to.  Just weird that way ...
[13:11] <lunitik> Naphatul: The non-LTS releases are stable, just don't let anyone talk you into running Ubuntu+1
[13:11] <cfhowlett> lunitik, FULLY agree on that point!
[13:12] <goranek> Ubuntu ftw, and i say that as an ex crazy fanatic Archlinux user :)
[13:13] <lunitik> cfhowlett: I honestly have no problems updating ever, been around since warty was not even released, I just don't use much in the way of PPA's or the like, pretty clean
[13:14] <goranek> Guys, can i somehow link .pem file with ip, so ssh doesn't always ask me for it(i dont need to add it with -i key.pem)
[13:15] <cfhowlett> lunitik, I've a similar install protocol.  At the end of the, day what works for you.  High power users that can compile, do all the network config and what-not, I salute.  I just wants it to work!
[13:15] <lunitik> cfhowlett: I also usually make sure the metapackages are around when I update
[13:15] <b_10> Tässä vähän tarkemmin, että mitä kaikkea suurinpiirtein asensin ennen boottausta, jonka jälkeen Ubuntu ei enää käynnistynyt normaalisti: 1) software-centeristä "Additional Drivers" -> Käynnistin sen, ja valitsin alimman vaihtoehdon, en tiedä mitä siinä luki -> joku tyyliin "Apply" tai "Install".. 2) Asentin tällasen themen "http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Zukitwo?content=140562" 3) Themeä varten asentelin jotain paketteja, mm. "gtk2
[13:15] <b_10> Sorry wrong language :)
[13:15] <cfhowlett> b_10, what language?  for future reference ....
[13:16] <Reezz> Hey guys, when I'm trying to run make on a package it doesn't automagically find my includes (they are there, but in subfolders..) Any ideas?
[13:17] <b_10> cfhowlett: Finnish
[13:17] <cfhowlett> b_10, OK then.  thanks.
[13:17] <cfhowlett> Reezz, how are you installing this package and where did it come from?
[13:17] <Naphatul> Reezz, subfolder/header.h
[13:17] <Naphatul> in the include
[13:19] <Reezz> cfhowlett: it's Skeltrack, cloned it from a git.. ran its configure and now i'm trying to run make to compile it all
[13:19] <cfhowlett> Reezz, ah.  PowerUser stuff.  Over my head.  Lunitik???
[13:19] <Reezz> Naphatul: yes, but it's not in the package folder. an example: cogl/cogl.h (system include) like this: #include <cogl/cogl.h>
[13:19] <Naphatul> what error does running make give you?
[13:20] <Reezz> Naphatul: It complains about the file not being there.. which is correct. pkg-config should be used to solve this I believe.. But I shouldn't need to modify the package, right?
[13:20] <lunitik> Reezz: you probably want #ubuntu-devel - this is more end user support and I'm not much of a packager (mostly just metapackages)
[13:21] <Reezz> lunitik: Ah, sorry :) I'll go and have a look-see there
[13:21] <Reezz> Thanks guys!
[13:21] <lunitik> Reezz: just be patient, it will be slower
[13:22] <lersch> Hello. I am running Wubi. In my application I open() a file using O_DIRECT option, I allocate 8GB for this file and make a mmap() of it. All the I/O to the file is made through the mmap() using memcopy(). Even specifying O_DIRECT, the behavior of the application make me believe that there is some sort of caching happening. Is it because of Wubi or am I missing something?
[13:23] <cfhowlett> lersch, wubi is for TESTING ubuntu ... not long term installation solution...suggest you virtualbox ubuntu instead or do a proper dual boot...
[13:24] <lersch> Ok. But do you know anything in Wubi that might ignore the O_DIRECT in open()?
[13:24] <cfhowlett> lersch, I don't know
[13:25] <BluesKaj> well , wubi points users in the right direction in terms of the ubuntu experience but that's about it's meant to do IMO
[13:25] <Ben__> Hello
[13:25] <BluesKaj> al
[13:25] <Ben__> I saw that you are making an OS for tablets
[13:25] <cfhowlett> Ben__, greetings
[13:25] <nerder> it
[13:25] <Ben__> I have a Nexus 7
[13:25] <cfhowlett> !tablet|Ben__,
[13:25] <Ben__> Ok, sorry
[13:26] <BluesKaj> !tablet | Ben__
[13:26] <BluesKaj> hehe
[13:26] <cfhowlett> Ben__, no worries.
[13:26] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, too slow this time ...
[13:26] <Ben__> Thanks for the help for getting me there! =)
[13:26] <Ben__> Bye
[13:26] <BluesKaj> well , cfhowlett it's not pi**ing contest
[13:26] <BluesKaj> ':)
[13:26] <cfhowlett> Ben__, there is a ubuntu nexus 7 project...search it out
[13:27] <sarger001> Is this the ubuntu support channel?
[13:27] <cfhowlett> sarger001, indeed.  welcome.
[13:27] <Ben__> Ok, Thank you cfhowlett
[13:27] <LxKermit> do the repositories keep up a recent and good version of firefox just by typing 'sudo apt-get install firefox'?
[13:27] <cfhowlett> Ben__, have fun
[13:28] <sarger001> I'm running linux mint right now, after trying to install ubuntu. Ubuntu installation failed, but mint did not, though running the same installer (i think) I burnt the files the same and want to produce a disk for my friend but am afraid it won't work.
[13:28] <BluesKaj> LxKermit, yes
[13:28] <LxKermit> BluesKaj - thanks
[13:28] <ikonia> sarger001: it's actually a different install routine, mint changes it
[13:28] <ikonia> sarger001: they are not comparible like that
[13:28] <cfhowlett> sarger001, you want to make an ubuntu disk and it didn't even work for you?
[13:28] <sarger001> Nope
[13:28] <sarger001> Mint did
[13:28] <sarger001> I'm running mint right now
[13:29] <cfhowlett> sarger001, pretty sure mint has disk making tools included ...
[13:29] <sarger001> Ubuntu did not install correctly and hung on the 'install ubuntu' option
[13:29] <sarger001> I burnt both disks on windows
[13:30] <cfhowlett> sarger001, how did you download the iso?  did you verify/md5sum the iso before burning the disk?
[13:30] <sarger001> Yep, it booted but hung on the loading screen
[13:31] <sarger001> Made another disk and failed
[13:31] <Guest42587> ээ
[13:31] <Guest42587> аллё
[13:31] <Guest42587> есть кто
[13:31] <FloodBot1> Guest42587: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:31] <cfhowlett> sarger001, actual disk not a USB?
[13:31] <Guest42587> чё
[13:31] <BluesKaj> sarger001, there's a bug with some hardware recognition with the installer, unfortunately..it might work on your friend's pc
[13:31] <cfhowlett> !ru|Guest42587,
[13:31] <sarger001> I used a disk, yes
[13:32] <Guest42587> иди нахуй шлюха
[13:32] <Guest42587> эээээ
[13:32] <Guest42587> суки
[13:32] <FloodBot1> Guest42587: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:32] <Guest42587> чё
[13:32] <Guest42587> иди нахуй
[13:32] <BluesKaj> !ru | Guest42587
[13:33] <BluesKaj> wow the bot is slow today
[13:33] <cfhowlett> sarger001, may I suggest you consider the USB option next time.
[13:33] <sarger001> OK
[13:33] <lewik> who use simon?
[13:34] <cfhowlett> !info simon
[13:35] <BluesKaj> sarger001, http://askubuntu.com/questions/204771/ubuntu-12-10-installation-hangs-at-preparing-to-install-ubuntu
[13:35] <sarger001> thanks
[13:36] <sarger001>  I can't even live boot
[13:36] <sarger001> from the disk
[13:36] <cfhowlett> sarger001, how did you get the iso?
[13:36] <cfhowlett> sarger001, skip that
[13:36] <sarger001> from the ubuntu site
[13:37] <nkvorn_> i have Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on my server. how can i find out if NAPI is enebled in the kernel?
[13:37] <Alocer> maybe the file is corupted ????
[13:37] <sarger001> Nope alocer, i made 4 disks
[13:37] <cfhowlett> sarger001, I've had much better luck using the .torrent than direct download of the ISO.  torrent have more robust error check and correction than a download.  and one should ALWAYS check the iso with md5sum
[13:37] <cfhowlett> !md5sum
[13:38] <cfhowlett> sarger001, bad iso 's happen to good people.
[13:38] <lewik> cfhowlett: its speech recognise
[13:38] <cfhowlett> lewik, ok.  Sorry. I don't know anything about it .
[13:39] <sarger001> OK
[13:39] <sarger001> I need to install ubuntu on my friends pc
[13:39] <sarger001> thanks
[13:39] <sarger001> :D
[13:39] <cfhowlett> sarger001, best of luck
[13:39] <BluesKaj> cfhowlett, I've had better experience with direct DL from the OS site then with torents
[13:40] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, ymmv.  Last time, I got ubuntustudio 2gigs dvd in about 15 minutes on torrent
[13:41] <BluesKaj> speed isn't the determining factor , aamof speed can be a detriment to a clean sum , cfhowlett
[13:42] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, agreed.  now that I'm in china, direct download is quite unworkable.  torrent is the only reasonable option.  not speedy but a clean ISO.
[13:43] <BluesKaj> cfhowlett, ok , well we all have to use what works best for us
[13:43] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, :)
[13:49] <sevenforall> Hey
[13:49] <sevenforall> I'm using Ubuntu 12.04, and the audio icon just disappeared from the panel
[13:52] <svip> I've accidentally removed myself from the sudoers file, is there any I can do to recover my root account?
[13:53] <svip> I got confused, because I assumed the sudo group was called wheel.
[13:55] <llutz> svip: start from live-cd or in rescue mode and add yourself to "sudo" group again
[13:55] <svip> Ah good idea.
[13:55] <Denommus> hi
[13:55] <cfhowlett> Denommus, greetings
[13:56] <Denommus> I'm trying to use the Ubuntu SDK, but it gives me the error 'module "QmlProject" is not installed'
[13:56] <Denommus> what does this mean?
[13:56] <cfhowlett> Denommus, ask in #ubuntu-devel  for developers
[13:56] <Denommus> thank you
[13:57] <rcmaehl> Alright #ubuntu, I just did a clean 12.10 64-bit install and it's been forever since I did a clean install, so I need package recommendations. Perferably some good customization packages
[13:58] <rcmaehl> also, does anyone know what happened to ubuntu tweak?
[13:59] <cfhowlett> rcmaehl, UT is still out there but it's not and never was in the repos ... cuz it BREAKS things.
[13:59] <MrBlaise> Hey! anyone have any suggestions about the anti-virus software which one should I download?
[13:59] <cfhowlett> !virug
[13:59] <cfhowlett> !virus
[13:59] <rcmaehl> xD
[13:59] <svip> llutz: How do I make the hd writeable?
[13:59] <sevenforall> That's wrong, I'd say
[13:59] <sevenforall> There are definitely Linux viruses, it's just really hard to catch them, yet
[14:00] <rcmaehl> Ubuntu is back in the DOS stage of Viruses
[14:00] <rcmaehl> Like back in 1990 when there was only like 200 viruses and they spread manually
[14:00] <rcmaehl> That's where Ubuntu is at
[14:00] <MrBlaise> cfhowlettm haha thanks, but yeah there are some viruses and I wanna make sure I don
[14:00] <MrBlaise> have them
[14:00] <llutz> svip: mount it, then "sudo nano /mntpoint/etc/group"
[14:00] <jpds> sevenforall: No, sorry, that's not true...
[14:00] <rcmaehl> Ubuntu isn't something where viruses can easily spread
[14:01] <MrBlaise> rcmaehl I understand and it is great!
[14:01] <rcmaehl> Ubuntu, and linux in general, has too many infinite customization options which basically throws stability out the window for almost every virus
[14:01] <cfhowlett> !clamav|MrBlaise,
[14:01] <MrBlaise> another reason why I'm using it :) however I do pass files between my windows and my ubuntu
[14:02] <cfhowlett> MrBlaise, look for virus protection in the ubuntu Software Center
[14:02] <rcmaehl> chkrootkit
[14:03] <MrBlaise> cfhowlett, Allright thanks.
[14:03] <cfhowlett> MrBlaise, best o fluck
[14:03] <jpds> rcmaehl: A rootkit is not a virus.
[14:03] <rcmaehl> It's still malware
[14:03] <lunitik> MrBlaise: You probably want clamav, a rootkit is not the same thing.
[14:03] <rcmaehl> Kinda
[14:03] <lunitik> rcmaehl: no
[14:03] <jpds> Anyway.
[14:04] <jpds> !ot
[14:04] <rcmaehl> oh yeah
[14:07] <xkernel> why unsupported updates are selected by default?
[14:07] <cfhowlett> xkernel, unsupported updates?  not selected by default.
[14:07] <sevenforall> Does anyone happen to know how to get the audio panel icon back on Ubuntu 12.04?
[14:07] <rcmaehl> I <3 ubuntu, runs on this old dual-core acer great
[14:08] <sevenforall> rcmaehl: You'd probably be even better off with Xubuntu :o
[14:09] <rcmaehl> It's not THAT old
[14:09] <rcmaehl> Early 2000s maybe, Aspire 4720z series (a ton of replacement parts from different models in that series)
[14:09] <flcl> how to find my.ini in Ubuntu?
[14:10] <cfhowlett> flcl, .ini?  for what program?
[14:10] <jackyyll> is it possible to move /var and /opt to another hard drive with only one partition? or do i need to have a separate partition on that drive for each one?
[14:10] <flcl> cfhowlett, musqld
[14:10] <flcl> *mysqld
[14:11] <flcl> *mysql
[14:11] <rcmaehl> Also, for some reason ubuntu 12.10 64-bit detects my adhoc network but it's grayed out and I can't connect to it
[14:11] <cfhowlett> flcl, so you want the user configuration file?
[14:11] <rcmaehl> Is there any way to resolve this
[14:12] <cfhowlett> flcl, locate *.ini will display all
[14:12] <flcl> cfhowlett, I want to add a line there
[14:12] <flcl> mmm, how can I search for a specific file in ubuntu?
[14:13] <svip> flcl: find or locate?
[14:13] <YueFairchild> My mom has an absolutely ancient laptop, like circa 2005. Windows 7 is mind-numbingly slow. Would Ubuntu be any better?
[14:13] <cfhowlett> flcl, locate filename or wildcard.name
[14:13] <flcl> locate my.ini shows nothing
[14:13] <cfhowlett> flcl, locate *.ini
[14:13] <flcl> locate *.ini shows too many )
[14:13] <RZAFC> anyone know how to get metaspoit on a ppc with lubuntu?
[14:14] <stianhj> Is there a download for the new phone version of Ubuntu somewhere?
[14:14] <sevenforall> ping
[14:14] <cfhowlett> flcl, locate *.ini | grep sql*
[14:14] <sevenforall|THIC> eh, whops, wrong channel :) cheers
[14:14] <YueFairchild> Or is that too intensive for something that old?
[14:14] <captine> YueFairchild, you could run a light version of ubuntu like xubuntu and i am pretty sure it will be snappier than 7
[14:15] <tockitj> do you think that ubuntu is designed for black people ?
[14:15] <flcl> cfhowlett, thanks! found it
[14:15] <cfhowlett> YueFairchild, lubuntu and xubuntu are optimized for low spec and older machines.  I suspect she'd be thrilled with either.
[14:15] <RZAFC> anyone know how to get metaspoit on a ppc with lubuntu?
[14:15] <rcmaehl> !ops tockitj
[14:16] <DJones> tockitj: Stop that, its not appropriate
[14:16] <tockitj> seriously they are consistently pushing with dark design and African motives
[14:17] <rcmaehl> Obvious troll was obvious
[14:17] <cfhowlett> DJones, thanks.
[14:17] <YueFairchild> I see...
[14:18] <YueFairchild> Which would you suggest, lubuntu or xubuntu?
[14:18] <YueFairchild> And these have a friendly UI, right? She's like, sixty.
[14:18] <cfhowlett> YueFairchild, download both.  they're small.  try em out.
[14:18] <YueFairchild> Okay.
[14:18] <AnonTrack> Algum br?
[14:18] <flcl> how do I know which configuration file is mysql using? config.huge.ini config.medium.ini config.sqmall.ini
[14:18] <cfhowlett> YueFairchild, xubuntu is possibly more "windows" like and lubuntu possibly more "osx" like
[14:18] <ThinkT510> !br | AnonTrack
[14:19] <cfhowlett> flcl, ask #mysql?
[14:19] <flcl> how?
[14:19] <cfhowlett> flcl, or #ubuntu-server ...
[14:19] <rcmaehl> cfhowlett, Kubuntu is more "windows" like than xubuntu in my opinion'
[14:19] <flcl> oh
[14:19] <cfhowlett> rcmaehl, maybe.  but kubuntu didn't come up in the conversation.
[14:21] <RZAFC> anyone know if I can install ubuntu on a ppc 64 1.5ghz
[14:21] <RZAFC> g4*
[14:21] <ThinkT510> !ppc | RZAFC
[14:22] <zatan> hey how can I add this as ppa  ? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+source/xapian-core/1.2.12-1
[14:22] <ThinkT510> !ppa | zatan
[14:23] <rcmaehl> I need help connecting to an adhoc network in ubuntu 12.10 64-bit. Ubuntu detects the network yet the option to choose to connect to it is grayed out
[14:25] <yourimym1> hello world , is there a link to explain diffrence between nvidia drivers for ubuntu (opensource-property) currents updates etc.
[14:27] <yourimym1> ubottu ?
[14:27] <yourimym1> ubottu:  is there a link to explain diffrence between nvidia drivers for ubuntu (opensource-property) currents updates etc.
[14:27] <hatake> my hotot eror, Can not get token from the server.
[14:27] <cfhowlett> !nvidia|yourimym1,
[14:27] <hatake> how to fix
[14:28] <cfhowlett> hatake, server issues?  ask in #ubuntu-server
[14:29] <rcmaehl> The adhoc worked last install fine however wasn't detected automatically
[14:31] <yourimym1> cfhowlett:  how to know if am using the best driver for my vga, or getting best performance for it
[14:31] <yourimym1> ubottu:  how to know if am using the best driver for my vga, or getting best performance for it
[14:32] <cfhowlett> yourimym1, I'm sure there are assessment/measurement tools, but I don't know.  So long as it works, I'm happy.  That said, a reasonable argument might be that you can play, say HD videos ???
[14:32] <rcmaehl> I think my adhoc issues have something to do with my wifi interface showing up as eth1
[14:33] <Thoth_Castel> I have just installed ubuntu on an HP EliteBook 8470s and once restarted got a flashing screen....just light a night club
[14:33] <RZAFC> what can I use to burn the ubuntu lts(ppc) live cd in windows 7
[14:33] <Thoth_Castel> why has that happened?
[14:33] <yourimym1> cfhowlett: is there a command to know this or just try HD videos :)
[14:33] <cfhowlett> Thoth_Castel, get a cloud machine and strobe lights and ... no OK.
[14:34] <rcmaehl> Thoth_Castel: update your graphic drivers
[14:34] <cfhowlett> yourimym1, try the video .. and ...
[14:34] <cfhowlett> !glxinfo
[14:34] <jackyyll> if i mount a different partition as /var but i have a var directory on my /, the one that's on / will be unaffected correct?
[14:34] <cfhowlett> hey thread: what cli command to test video performance?  glxinfo or something???
[14:35] <RZAFC1> what can I use to burn the ubuntu lts(ppc) live cd in windows 7
[14:35] <BluesKaj> glxinfo | grep OpenGL
[14:35] <BluesKaj> cfhowlett,^
[14:36] <BluesKaj> cfhowlett, , you need mesa-utils installed for that command
[14:36] <yourimym1> http://pastebin.com/sLKF4NZB
[14:36] <DJones> RZAFC1: I think I used to use Infrarecorder years ago to burn any iso's on Windows, not sure if it still runs under Win 7 though, I'd be surprised if Win 7 didn't have a burn iso option in the right click menu though
[14:37] <RZAFC1> can I use imgburn to put a ubuntu ppc iso on a live cd in windows 7?
[14:37] <tcrouto> RZAFC1, go download imgburn
[14:37] <cfhowlett> yourimym1, mesa-utils and glxinfo will tell you ... something about your gpu performance
[14:37] <yourimym1> thz all
[14:37] <RZAFC> tcrouto: I already have it
[14:37] <yourimym1> thx*
[14:38] <tcrouto> theres nothing special about a ubuntu iso... it burns just like any other image
[14:38] <RZAFC> cool
[14:43] <RZAFC> I can download things like metasploit on lubuntu for some reason, is that normal?
[14:43] <RZAFC> can't*
[14:43] <cfhowlett> RZAFC, repos
[14:43] <RZAFC> cfhowlett: what is repos?
[14:44] <BluesKaj> !repositories
[14:44] <BluesKaj> RZAFC,^
[14:45] <cfhowlett> RZAFC, never mind.  metasploit seems not to be in repos ... but I can DL with no problem.  Are  you attempting to this at home or work/school?  Perhaps a router setting or policy prevents it ...
[14:46] <RZAFC> cfhowlett: ya, repos is synaptics package manager right?
[14:46] <RZAFC> apt-get etc
[14:47] <cfhowlett> RZAFC, yes, but metasploit is not in there.
[14:47] <RZAFC> ya, i know. Aleady tried that.
[14:47] <rcmaehl> I need help with ubuntu 12.10 64-bit. I had wireless earlier but couldn't connect to adhoc networks, then after installing updates and restarting my wireless card no longer is detected at all
[14:47] <RZAFC> I think my only option is to switch my os to ubuntu lts ppc
[14:47] <urlwolf> I use colemak. I wanted the login screen to use it too (lightdm), so I used settings to change the system languaje to 'us colemak'. Now I see in TTYs that the system is indeed colemak. But I cannot log in in loghtdm! not even typing the password in qwerty. Any idea why?
[14:48] <bhavesh> How am I supposed to resume utorrent torrents which I started in windows 8 in transmission in ubuntu 12.04.2?
[14:48] <urlwolf> this happened after reboot
[14:48] <bhavesh> Just set the download folder for transmission download same as utorrnet?
[14:48] <tcrouto> bhavesh, thats not really a question suited for this channel, but all you need to do is point transmission to the folder
[14:48] <bhavesh> I copied my half downloaded files to my ubuntu's downloads folder
[14:48] <AppleJuice> bhavesh, Yes. And open the .torrent files again.
[14:49] <bhavesh> AppleJuice, tcrouto okay, ty
[14:49] <tcrouto> yw
[14:49] <theadmin> urlwolf: I'm not sure what colemak is, but I suppose you need to set the keyboard in /etc/X11/Xorg.conf as well
[14:50] <AppleJuice> bhavesh, utorrent will start checking the files and will continue where windows left off.
[14:50] <bhavesh> opening the utorrents .torrent file saved in windows appdata folder resumed my download :)
[14:50] <bhavesh> okay.
[14:51] <Sahan> Hi...I'm using ubuntu 12.04 on toshiba satellite c600. Every time I turn on my pc it automaticall set brightness to max. So I have to set it back to a comfortable level. Please tell me a way to set it permanantly to a desired leve...Sorry about my English..
[14:51] <urlwolf> theadmin: I hoped the gnome system settings would have done that for me
[14:51] <urlwolf> let me check
[14:51] <oleg> hi!
[14:51] <gugus77> oh nice flood bots ....
[14:52] <theadmin> urlwolf: It should, but it wouldn't affect LightDM, that starts before GNOME.
[14:52] <urlwolf> theadmin: would switching to the 'new' gdm help? I'm using ubutu with gnome shell, maybe it undertstands the setting it self sets :)
[14:53] <theadmin> urlwolf: Use this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1690717/ and place it either in xorg.conf itself, or in any file starting with a two-digit number and ending with .conf in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ (e.g. /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-colemak.conf)
[14:54] <tcrouto> Sahan: take a look at this link. http://askubuntu.com/questions/145314/how-to-save-brightness-settings
[14:55] <bhavesh> I always get a black screen with my mouse pointer on it when I resume from suspend(automatically lock after 10 minutes), I know its a bug, but it says Fix Issued on Launchpad. I updated my ubuntu from Ubuntu Main servers yesterday but it still did not fix the problem. Normal desktop comes back only by pressing Alt + prnt scrn sys + k as stated on the bug page.
[14:55] <soahccc> Hmm is MAILTO in /etc/crontab applied to all cronfiles? I would like to get all cron outputs despite the user running them
[14:55] <bhavesh> what am supposed to do?
[14:55] <Sahan> tcrouto : thanx I'll see it...
[14:55] <bhavesh> Ubuntu 12.04.2*
[14:56] <theadmin> bhavesh: "Fix Released" simply means there's a patch, it doesn't necessarily mean it's already in the repos.
[14:56] <ddssc> hey I'm looking for a ftp client with good shell api. something like ftp connect ip x.x.x.x, ftp put sourcefile targetfile etc
[14:56] <bhavesh> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/966744
[14:56] <Myrtti> ddssc: "ftp"
[14:56] <bhavesh> theadmin, okay.
[14:56] <theadmin> ddssc: Uh, the traditional "ftp" seems to do what you want
[14:57] <jpmh> I need to be able to log off from the terminal window - in previous versions of the OS I could do gnome-session-save but this has gone, despite the fact that there is still a reference to it in the man pages for gnome-session -  how do I do this?
[14:57] <ddssc> theadmin, where can I find docu?
[14:57] <bbryant> hey, I'm having a problem with getting hdmi sound to show up in sound settings when I plug in hdmi? does anyone know where to go from here?
[14:58] <yourimym11> open source or property is better ?
[14:59] <urlwolf> theadmin: bad news, I cannot even log into a TTY
[14:59] <ddssc> btw, my intention is to call ftp client from a script, so there can be no dialogs, enter this enter that. I need to have ftp connect x.x.x.x user pw , no dialogs
[14:59] <urlwolf> god,. I lock myself out!
[14:59] <theadmin> ddssc: What do you think expect is for? :P
[15:00] <urlwolf> theadmin: this is not X
[15:00] <urlwolf> so the problem must be somewhere else...
[15:00] <theadmin> urlwolf: Hm, okay, then I'm not sure
[15:00] <urlwolf> argh!
[15:00] <urlwolf> ah
[15:01] <urlwolf> found it
[15:01] <urlwolf> my passwd has a key that I moved with xmodmap :)
[15:01] <urlwolf> hehe
[15:02] <diegosnat> hi guys... I have got a problem. If I open a luks partition and I close it afterward and I try again to reopen it, I cannot do it. Is there any reason why?
[15:02] <yourimym11> vga open source or property is better ?
[15:03] <tcrouto> yourimym11, propriatary will give much better performance
[15:03] <roniez_> Anybody here using lottanzb?
[15:03] <yourimym11> thx
[15:03] <yourimym11> open source slower ?
[15:04] <queso> What group does a user have to be in to be able to edit network-manager settings?
[15:04] <theadmin> yourimym11: Not always. Sometimes opensource ones work better.
[15:04] <diegosnat> hi guys... I have got a problem. If I open a luks partition and I close it afterward and I try again to reopen it, I cannot do it. Is there any reason why?
[15:05] <theadmin> queso: None, really. If you mean systemwide, you need to be able to get root access, and that's configurable via sudo
[15:05] <Safa_[A_boy]> hi all, will ubuntu for tablets be translated?
[15:05] <theadmin> Safa_[A_boy]: I don't see why not.
[15:06] <yourimym11> theadmin: how to figure this out , any tests ?
[15:06] <queso> theadmin: How do I have my VPN connection settings available for me? They aren't showing. And I already have sudo access.
[15:06] <theadmin> queso: Hm, what do you mean? What kind of VPN?
[15:07] <theadmin> yourimym11: There are a few I know of, but none are really accurate. Try running some sort of intense 3D game, I guess, see which performs better.
[15:07] <Safa_[A_boy]> theadmin, maybe it will be a Separated project :|
[15:07] <yourimym11> theadmin: suggest a game for me for example !
[15:07] <theadmin> yourimym11: Well, Urban Terror and Alien Arena are the first free ones that come to mind. Both are in the repos.
[15:08] <yourimym11> thx
[15:09] <theadmin> Oh wait, Urban Terror isn't, it seems. Odd. Was almost certain it's there.
[15:09] <theadmin> Oh well
[15:10] <yourimym11> Urban Terror yup didnt fond it neither
[15:10] <queso> theadmin: If I configure a VPN connection in network manager, it doesn't show up in the dropdown list. So I can't connect and I can't figure out why.
[15:10] <YueFairchild> Okay. I have xubuntu's installer on a flash drive, no blank CDs, and the thing's bios won't boot from USB.
[15:10] <YueFairchild> Suggestions?
[15:11] <sgtkilljoy> YueFairchild: already have grub installed?
[15:11] <theadmin> YueFairchild: What does it have on it now?
[15:11] <queso> theadmin: Nevermind, disabled networking and re-enabled it, and how it's showing. Thanks for your help.
[15:11] <theadmin> queso: Heh. Crazy thing.
[15:13] <Orpheon> Hello, I'm having problems with installing hamachi on a 64-bit 12.04 system. "hamachi-init: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory".
[15:14] <Orpheon> Apparently this thread has a fix for it, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1243005 , but the first fix doesn't work, the second one gives me a 404 error on the HTTP request and I don't really want to add a hardy repository for precise
[15:14] <Orpheon> any ideas or suggestions?
[15:15] <Orpheon> hello?
[15:16] <m3pow> is there a good tutorial on install steam on 64bit 12.10 ?
[15:17] <YueFairchild> I'm trying to rig it up with Unetbootin or whatever.
[15:17] <theadmin> m3pow: Eh, it's in the Software Center
[15:18] <x0xhk79f8086k809>  /JOIN #GAZA
[15:18] <sevenforall> Does anyone know how to get back the audio indicator applet in the panel on Ubuntu 12.04?
[15:18] <theadmin> YueFairchild: That won't matter really. What OS does the computer currently have, if any?
[15:18] <xangua> sevenforall: did you uninstall pulseaudio¿
[15:18] <sevenforall> xangua: I did, but I reinstalled it
[15:18] <m3pow> was in the software center, i tried to install it from there, after that SC crashed, now i can't find it
[15:19] <theadmin> sevenforall: You're missing indicator-applet, I think.
[15:19] <diegosnat> hi guys... I have got a problem. If I open a luks partition and I close it afterward and I try again to reopen it, I cannot do it. Is there any reason why?
[15:19] <theadmin> sevenforall: Or even just indicator-sound
[15:19] <sevenforall> I'll check that
[15:19] <genii-around> Orpheon: Hamachi is not an Ubuntu package, perhaps ask in their support channel of #hamachi
[15:19] <theadmin> m3pow: It should work, try again -- SC isn't perfect but works most of the time
[15:20] <m3pow> ok, i will thanks !
[15:20] <Orpheon> genii-around, my problem isn't really hamachi and more how to install the correct (deprecated) version of libstdc++.so.5
[15:21] <theadmin> m3pow: There's also a .deb package on their website which you can download and double-click to install but it's not recommended (no automatic updates)
[15:22] <m3pow> i see, but i still can't get it in SC
[15:23] <m3pow> it was a 64bit version, tried to install it, crashed, GONE
[15:23] <theadmin> m3pow: Hm, run "sudo apt-get -f install" on the terminal
[15:24] <ddssc> so im trying: lftp open -u uname,pw -p 21 servername. It hangs on [Resolving host address...], what am I doing wrong?
[15:24] <m3pow> so i did
[15:25] <oleg> Интересно, а по русски тут ко-нибудь спикает?
[15:25] <theadmin> !ru | oleg
[15:25] <Orpheon> So actually, every solution proposed here ( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1243005 ) doesn't work, including the last one. Any ideas on how to get this to work?
[15:26] <m3pow> nothing on the Steam installer.
[15:26] <Hanumaan> how to see if port 80 is open in ubuntu ?
[15:26] <m3pow> should i try a rr ?
[15:26] <theadmin> m3pow: There probably won't be, but it would likely show up in software center after that
[15:26] <theadmin> Hanumaan: The firewall doesn't block anything by default.
[15:26] <ddssc> so im trying: lftp open -u uname,pw -p 21 servername. It hangs on [Resolving host address...], what am I doing wrong?
[15:27] <m3pow> thanks, will restart now !
[15:27] <ddssc> am I missing something , some parameters/quotes whatever?
[15:28] <Hanumaan> theadmin, I am using some proxy and trying to run some java application which is not reaching http port also my java program http://pastebin.com/h9pn5Vhz so what could be the problem ?
[15:28] <theadmin> Hanumaan: I am not familiar with Java.
[15:29] <Hanumaan> theadmin, how to see if port 80 is open or closed in ubuntu ?
[15:29] <mcbootin> hello. i have come for tech support. i am running ubuntu 12.04.2 lts edition. while practicing programming i accidentally damaged my kernal. i decided to back up all my personal files and roll back my edition to 12.4.1 edition. so i downloaded the boot iso and i made a usb boot disc, however my system refuses to boot from the flash drive i used to turn into the boot iso
[15:30] <theadmin> Hanumaan: sudo ufw status numbered # No output = no firewall rules = it's open
[15:30] <airlynx> Can someone explain what this graph means: http://imgur.com/bhdt4ff   My laptop runs 24/7 on power and occasionally I catch it charging for no reason
[15:30] <sgtkilljoy> Hanumaan: sudo netstat -lptu
[15:30] <mcbootin> how do i get my system to boot from the iso i made on the flash drive
[15:30] <Guest30467> How's Ubuntu with an AMD GPU? Especially interested in Wine, how is that with an AMD GPU?
[15:30] <theadmin> Guest30467: WINE only works with fglrx most of the time
[15:31] <Guest30467> Ok, would you recommend an nVidia card instead?
[15:31] <awktion> !ops | nir joinspam/possible malware link
[15:31] <theadmin> Guest30467: (that is their propretiary driver, and it doesn't support all cards, only more-or-less recent ones)
[15:31] <Pici> awktion: I *just* kickbanned them.
[15:31] <Myrtti> awktion: already removed
[15:31] <awktion> lol
[15:31] <theadmin> Guest30467: Well, yeah, nVidia tends to have better support.
[15:31] <awktion> sorry
[15:31] <Guest30467> theadmin: I've a HD6950, guessing that's recent enough to be supported.
[15:31] <Pici> its okay :)
[15:31] <awktion> on the ball eh
[15:31] <mcbootin> anyone have any ideas?
[15:32] <Guest30467> I'll just have to grab an nVidia card some day :p
[15:32] <Guest30467> Want to give up Windows!
[15:32] <Guest30467> But not my gaming :P
[15:32] <theadmin> Guest30467: Eh, Steam is around for Linux now, so gaming won't be a problem in a couple years
[15:33] <mcbootin> did anyone read the issue i have been having? or am i in the wrong channel for tech support?
[15:33] <Guest30467> theadmin: exactly :p
[15:33] <xxiao> now when I double click *.txt my open office will open it, how to change it to other editors?
[15:33] <echinos_> I'm using a virtualbox VM with windows inside to use go to meeting, but I have a horrible echo to the other people, and they can hear stuff that my ubunto host is playing
[15:33] <echinos_> ubuntu*
[15:34] <xxiao> tried system-preference-preferredapplications, no help
[15:34] <theadmin> xxiao: Right click, properties, open with
[15:34] <kleopatre2> bonjour
[15:34] <Guest30467> salut
[15:35] <GirlyGirl> !fr | kleopatre2
[15:35] <m3pow> ok, so nothing about steam in Software Center
[15:35] <xxiao> theadmin: it's in the downloads of firefox window, i think i need reconfigure firefox for that. thanks
[15:35] <m3pow> something is not right here
[15:35] <mcbootin> hello. i have come for tech support. i am running ubuntu 12.04.2 lts edition. while practicing with the linux terminal using the text book "the command line " i accidentally damaged my kernal. i decided to back up all my personal files and roll back my edition to 12.4.1 edition. so i downloaded the boot iso and i made a usb boot disc, however my system refuses to boot from the flash drive i used to turn into the boot iso
[15:35] <mcbootin> how do i get my system to boot from the iso i made on the flash drive
[15:36] <dr_willis> how did you make the usb
[15:36] <clue_h> mcbootin, have you tried yumi and changed your boot order in bios?
[15:36] <dr_willis> you could just fix the kernel also. ;-)
[15:36] <mcbootin> i used the ubuntu start up disk maker that came with ubuntu
[15:37] <theadmin> mcbootin: That normally works, but just for the heck of it, use dd, tends to be safer
[15:37] <dr_willis> are you sure your bios is set to boot from usb?
[15:37] <edheldil> hi, was there a change of policy between lucid and precise regarding apt-get? Previously cowbuilder was able to install as a build-dependency other pkg version than the highest one, e.g. 1.1 if there's Build-Depends: utils (<< 1.2). But it does not do it in precise and fails
[15:37] <GirlyGirl> mcbootin: Does this bootable disk work on another computer?
[15:38] <mcbootin> i think i am going to attemt to change my bios boot settings because thats what i had to do to get windows off my comp and linux onto it in the first place
[15:38] <theadmin> mcbootin: sudo dd if=~/Downloads/ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdb # If you have only one hard drive and your USB device is the only other mass storage media plugged in. Otherwise, it may be sdc, or such
[15:38] <dr_willis> mcbootin: how is your kernel broke? that shouldent be hard to fix
[15:39] <mcbootin> theadmin i already have the iso downloaded and turned into a bootable disk on the usb the system told me i could use the flash drive to boot from when it finished extracting the iso onto the flash drive. i have a crappy internet connection its taken me 5 days to get this iso downloaded in the first place
[15:40] <mcbootin> dr willis you may better recognise me by the name sir dotalus. its been an ongoing issue for a couple weeks now
[15:40] <mcbootin> i am pretty sure i need to reconfig my bios boot settings
[15:40] <dr_willis> you did verify the md5 sum of the iso mcbootin
[15:40] <mcbootin> thanks guys, i appreciate the feed back from all of you
[15:41] <mcbootin> how would i go about doing that?
[15:41] <theadmin> mcbootin: md5sum /path/to/iso
[15:42] <sgtkilljoy> mcbootin: in terminal "md5sum /".........^^
[15:42] <mcbootin> sometimes i think people think that issues are far more simple than they really are
[15:42] <mcbootin> thanks h/o i will try it
[15:43] <theadmin> mcbootin: A live media not booting always is a simple issue
[15:43] <mcbootin> i may be new to linux but i have worked windows for 18 years and no... its not always simple
[15:46] <SIGKILLer> Hey, im trying out Irssi for the first time. Is there any way i can make join/diconnect/timeout messages less intrusive?
[15:47] <theadmin> SIGKILLer: You can get rid of them altogether: /ignore * JOIN PART QUIT NICK
[15:48] <m3pow> the admin, tried using the .deb package but... "Fatal Error: Steam needs to be online to update. Please confirm you network connection and try again"
[15:48] <dr_willis> webchats smart filters are soo nice.
[15:48] <pranjal710> hi,I have installed ubuntu 12.04, but cant connect to wireless, it says "firmware missing" . Can someone please help?
[15:49] <rix1234> Hi... I am authenticating my linux box from a windows AD domain... However I am getting this particular error... ERROR:LW_ERROR_LDAP_NO_SUCH_ATTRIBUTE [LW_ERROR_LDAP_NO_SUCH_ATTRIBUTE]... CAn anyone please help me out... :-)
[15:49] <SIGKILLer> thank you, that seemes to work!
[15:49] <dr_willis> run the additional  driver  tool yet pranjal710 ?
[15:49] <rix1234> Hi... I am authenticating my linux box from a windows AD domain... However I am getting this particular error... ERROR:LW_ERROR_LDAP_NO_SUCH_ATTRIBUTE [LW_ERROR_LDAP_NO_SUCH_ATTRIBUTE]... CAn anyone please help me out... :-)
[15:50] <dr_willis> !patience
[15:52] <evolbit> hi, i recently installed ubuntu 12.04 in my laptop. Yesterday i made package updates for the first time and the system crashed with a strange black screen. I shutdown the laptop using the button but now when i try to use ubuntu he says that cannot recognize graphic card and don´t let me do anything besides using the command line. Plese Help me!
[15:52] <dr_willis> !nomodeset | evolbit
[15:52] <theadmin> evolbit: Did you install normally or did you use the silly Windows installer?
[15:53] <lewik> Is anybody use simon speech recognizer?
[15:53] <dr_willis> whats your video card  evolbit ?
[15:53] <cads> hey, if you want to install ubuntu on someone else's computer, and have minimal calls to come over and help fix it, is it best to deploy 12.04?
[15:53] <cads> ie, the LTS, rather than the latest release
[15:53] <evolbit> is ati x1200 dr_willis
[15:53] <dr_willis> cads:  set up ssh so you can ssh in
[15:54] <theadmin> cads: Yep. LTS releases are more stable, have longer support cycles
[15:54] <YueFairchild> AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[15:54] <YueFairchild> Okay so.
[15:54] <YueFairchild> I have a USB drive.
[15:54] <FloodBot1> YueFairchild: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:54] <maani> Hi everyone, I was just wondering where can I find the STARTUP objects/files on ubuntu? (mint) is there any GUI for it? or is there any specific folder?
[15:54] <gdanko> Man I cant believe Ubuntu displayed mty password on scren after X crashed!
[15:54] <bazhang> maani, you're using MINT?
[15:54] <maani> yes bazhang
[15:55] <maani> xfce
[15:55] <evolbit> i installed normally theadmin, i have dual boot with windows 7
[15:55] <bazhang> maani, go to mintsupport then
[15:55] <YueFairchild> I have a USB drive. I'm trying to install xubuntu on a very old (circa 2005) laptop that -refuses- to recognize USB drives as boot devices. I have no blank CDs or DVDs. How can I install this stupid thing?
[15:55] <bazhang> !mintsupport | maani
[15:55] <dr_willis> maani:  depends on what you want to start.
[15:55] <theadmin> maani: irc://irc.spotchat.org/linuxmint-help
[15:55] <maani> Thanks everyone :)
[15:55] <bazhang> lewik, where is this simon program from
[15:55] <DarkSim> Recommendations for a good application to format and partition drives?
[15:55] <bazhang> DarkSim, gparted
[15:55] <dr_willis> DarkSim: gparted
[15:56] <clue_h> YueFairchild: I think you can do a netboot install
[15:56] <dr_willis> cfdisk!
[15:56] <lewik> bazhang: http://simon-listens.org/index.php?id=122&L=1
[15:56] <DerJunge> Help! I am trying to install Ubuntu 12.4.2 on my new laptop via USB and I am constantly getting this error saying casper/vmlinuz/ not found!
[15:56] <YueFairchild> Is there any chance you could walk me through that? I've never done that before and this thing is fighting me every step of the way.
[15:56] <Noorideen> hello, how can i install hexchat to ubuntu? nothing on google works :P
[15:56] <DerJunge> Its driving me insane!
[15:56] <bazhang> lewik, whats the issue; thats 3rd party software
[15:56] <bazhang> Noorideen, xchat not hexchat
[15:57] <clue_h> It's been a while but this may help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[15:57] <dr_willis> DerJunge:  server or desktop iso? what tool did you use to make the usb!
[15:57] <Noorideen> bazhang, but i dont want xchat i want hexchat
[15:57] <Noorideen> :D
[15:57] <bazhang> Noorideen, thats for windows
[15:57] <DerJunge> dr_willis: Desktop, and im using Linux Live
[15:57] <Noorideen> bazhang, but i had hexchat on linux mint
[15:57] <dr_willis> hexchat is xchat on windows. last i looked.
[15:57] <pranjal710> hi,I have installed ubuntu 12.04, but cant connect to wireless, it says "firmware missing" . Can someone please help?
[15:57] <bazhang> Noorideen, thats not right.
[15:58] <lewik> bazhang: no issue =) I just want voice commands =) But can't tune simon, I google a lot, but no results.
[15:58] <Noorideen> bazhang, i swear lol
[15:58] <dr_willis> run the additional  driver  tool yet pranjal710 ?
[15:58] <YueFairchild> Oh god.
[15:58] <YueFairchild> I think I might just go to bed. I'm sorry.
[15:58] <bazhang> Noorideen, it makes Zero sense to use haxchat for windows in wine, when there is xchat
[15:59] <Noorideen> bazhang, so hexchat for windows?
[15:59] <bazhang> Noorideen, this is ubuntu support. install xchat
[15:59] <dr_willis> hexchat is xchat on windows. last i looked.
[15:59] <DerJunge> Any one can help?
[15:59] <theadmin> dr_willis, bazhang: from hexchat.org: "both Windows and Unix-like "
[16:00] <Noorideen> :D
[16:00] <theadmin> Noorideen: There's a PPA, check on their site
[16:00] <bazhang> theadmin, one is in the repos...
[16:00] <pranjal710> dr_willis, My ethernet port does not work,is there any way I can copy the files from a USB to my laptop? Sorry, I did not see your comment before
[16:00] <dr_willis> they got a ppa? ;)
[16:00] <Noorideen> theadmin, thank you
[16:01] <theadmin> bazhang: Well, there may be some differences between the two critical for that person, who knows?
[16:01] <Noorideen> dr_willis, bazhang thank you
[16:01] <bazhang> theadmin, we dont support or recommend PPA, just so Noorideen knows that he will get zero support for hexchat PPA
[16:02] <DerJunge> Help! I ahve been trying to install Ubuntu 12.4.2 desktop onto my new laptop via a USB I created with linux live, I keep getting this error saying casper/vmlinuz/ not found
[16:02] <DerJunge> Its so frustrating!
[16:02] <Noorideen> bazhang, so its better to install xchat instead of hexchat?
[16:02] <bazhang> DerJunge, md5 the iso
[16:02] <theadmin> Noorideen: Yes, that's the better option.
[16:02] <DerJunge> I did, it checks fine
[16:02] <theadmin> Noorideen: ...well, I'd suggest to go with irssi. xchat seems lacking in some ways to me
[16:02] <Noorideen> theadmin, i will go for xchat then :)
[16:03] <theadmin> But, irssi is command-line so it might confuse some
[16:03] <bazhang> DerJunge, and did you do the disk integrity check
[16:03] <dr_willis> weechat ;-)
[16:03] <DerJunge> No, what is that bazhang?
[16:03] <pranjal710> !quit
[16:03] <Noorideen> theadmin, i am new to cli :D, will it be hard for me?
[16:03] <bazhang> DerJunge, by the way, is Linux Live something along the lines of unetbootin?
[16:03] <lewik> bazhang: ... But I have issue =)  I think it's becose me do a lot of with keyboard settings. But now, for example, Ctrl+F do not work at all. Shift+w and some others key combinations. How I can reset it?
[16:03] <DerJunge> Yes
[16:04] <DerJunge> How do I check the disk integrity?
[16:04] <bazhang> lewik, I would recommend asking the simon forums/irc channel/developers about that
[16:04] <theadmin> Noorideen: It's not uberhard or anything, but takes a while to get used to. Use Xchat if it works for you, it's the client that comes with Ubuntu after all
[16:05] <lewik> bazhang:  Can u help about keyboard?
[16:05] <pj335> hi all i wanned to install Ubuntu allong widows xp and now  got a messace saying      serial8250: too much work for irq12      can some one help me out?
[16:05] <Noorideen> theadmin, thank you very much
[16:05] <theadmin> pj335: What processor do you have?
[16:06] <bazhang> lewik, I have no idea about that software
[16:06] <pj335> theadmin: an very old one
[16:06] <DerJunge> bazhang: Do I need to do a disk integrity check if im installing via USB?
[16:07] <pj335> theadmin: frome lijk 9 years old
[16:07] <theadmin> pj335: Um, model name/number please
[16:07] <bazhang> DerJunge, I would do a re- "burn" of the iso onto the usb stick, is this 12.04? 12.10 or what
[16:07] <pj335> theadmin:  1 minit
[16:07] <DerJunge> bazhang: It is a 12.04
[16:07] <DerJunge> 64 bit
[16:08] <pj335> whait it is doing something theadmin the ubuntu screen it up with the 5 dots
[16:08] <lewik> bazhang: ... Problem with keyboard do not linked with "simon".. I think its in KDE. But I dont know how to reset hotkeys settings
[16:08] <theadmin> pj335: Ah, okay, it probably wasn't a critical error then
[16:08] <theadmin> pj335: Just wait :)
[16:08] <pj335> oke thank you
[16:09] <pj335> and do i have to got a internet connection to set i up?
[16:09] <theadmin> pj335: It's not required, but it's recommended
[16:10] <pj335> oke i wil try and make a connection then
[16:10] <theadmin> pj335: It's needed to download and install updates or language packs not present on the CD.
[16:10] <theadmin> pj335: Other than that, eh
[16:11] <pj335> i used wubi to set it up
[16:11] <pj335> but i wil try to get a cabble
[16:11] <b2w> i want help with shell programming
[16:12] <bazhang> b2w, `try #bash
[16:13] <b2w> i want to give an input text to one command but in that text it appears"qrcode:" .i dont want this characters to be read out.i want it to read after the ":"
[16:14] <weavejester> Does anyone happen to know if Ubuntu stores the reason why it won't install packages?
[16:14] <weavejester> I'm just getting: Depends: blah (>= 1.0.0) but it is not going to be installed
[16:15] <theadmin> b2w: sed 's/^qrcode\://'
[16:15] <elisa87> Do you know where my package is installed if I have used this command? ./configure --with-perfctr-prefix=$HOME/local --prefix=$HOME/local
[16:15] <jrib> weavejester: pastebin full command and output
[16:15] <jrib> elisa87: probably the "local" folder in your HOME
 can you please explain that
[16:16] <Zhaboo> hi all, I am trying to find out what exactly is the problem when creating Linux Live USB startup disks, resizing the partition, making a new extended one with logical NTFS partition inside it using Gparted, but then subsequently Windows Vista Home Premium and Windows 7 Home Premium cannot access the new extra partition... (but Linux can)
[16:16] <jrib> elisa87: (assuming you proceeded to complete the installation after you ran that ./configure)
[16:16] <b2w> theadmin please explain that
[16:16] <arges>  /join #ubuntu-devel
[16:17] <jrib> b2w: sed 's/x/y/' replaces "x" with "y"
[16:17] <theadmin> b2w: sed is a tool which works with regular expressions. s/ stands for "substitute", i.e. replace. Next, comes the regular expression. ^ is for start-of-line, qrcode are just your letters, \: means : (have to escape special characters), and then after the slash we show what to replace with (nothing)
[16:17] <weavejester> jrib: https://gist.github.com/weavejester/ba102ca0f24607a8a606
[16:17] <mariano> hola me podian ayudar en xubuntu
[16:17] <jrib> !es | mariano
[16:17] <lmat> What's the best jre to use on ubuntu server? I would like to avoid extra stuff (browser plugins, applet support, etc.), and I seek security.
[16:17] <elisa87> jrib: bash: cd: /home/local: No such file or directory (I am a newbie)
[16:17] <jrib> elisa87: cd ~/local
[16:18] <jrib> elisa87: your HOME is likely /home/your_username, not /home
[16:18] <theadmin> lmat: Install the headless one: sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre-headless (or 7 for version 7)
[16:18] <lmat> theadmin: wow. perfect :)
[16:18] <elisa87> jrib: bash: cd: /home/jalal/local: No such file or directory
[16:18] <weavejester> jrib: I'm installing onto a blank EC2 instance with Ubuntu 12.10 btw
[16:18] <elisa87> jrib: jalal@dfyhs5l1:/usr/local$ cd ~/local
[16:18] <elisa87> bash: cd: /home/jalal/local: No such file or directory
[16:19] <jrib> weavejester: run "sudo apt-get update" and try again.  If it persists, pastebin: apt-cache policy openjdk-6-jre openjdk-6-jre-headless
[16:19] <jrib> elisa87: then you probably haven't installed it.  What did you do after you ran ./configure...?
[16:19] <elisa87> I am installing it now but shouldn't the local path already exist? jrib
[16:19] <jrib> elisa87: no
[16:20] <clue_h> and it may be .local
[16:20] <elisa87> ah ok thanks will let you know when the installation is complete
[16:20] <weavejester> jrib: Ahah. The update seems to work. Odd… I wonder why it needs that
[16:20] <jrib> elisa87: what are you installing anyway?
[16:21] <TheLoneRanger> So what is this may i ask ?
[16:21] <jrib> !topic | TheLoneRanger
[16:21] <weavejester> jrib: Thanks for the help
[16:21] <jrib> TheLoneRanger: it's the official ubuntu support channel, feel free to ask any technical questions about ubuntu you have :)
[16:21] <jrib> weavejester: no problem
[16:21] <TheLoneRanger> Thanks
[16:21] <b2w> my command is zbarimg image.png.the decoded information contains "qrcode:hello world" i dont want that "qrcode :"to be included.please tell me a command for that
[16:22] <jrib> b2w: dr_willis told you a command to do that
[16:22] <jrib> erm, theadmin did
[16:22] <b2w> i dont know where to place it
[16:22] <TheLoneRanger> Does anybody know if the Ubuntu Version 12.10 is making a plug in for Adobe Connect?
[16:22] <theadmin> b2w: zbarimg image.png | sed 's/^qrcode\://' | ...
[16:23] <mrtharepist> Hey, anyone have any idea if Ubuntu for mobile devices will be supporting C derivatives or java for development?
[16:23] <lewik> Im searching monosnap - like app for KDE.  App to take part of screen, draw lines, arrows and get short web-link for it/
[16:23] <theadmin> mrtharepist: So far, the app development for mobile is mostly using Qt, which is a C++ framework.
[16:24] <phaedral> +1 jrib catalyst in action
[16:24] <pedrinto> hi
[16:24] <pedrinto> i need heeeelp
[16:25] <theadmin> mrtharepist: HTML5 is also supported.
[16:25] <pedrinto> i don't edit grub.cfg
[16:25] <mrtharepist> theadmin: that makes sense. I was thinking about moving projects about to work on iOS and  Android. I wondered if Ubuntu will help that issue.
[16:25] <pedrinto> i can't run xubuntu
[16:25] <b2w> sed does not work.
[16:26] <theadmin> b2w: Then you're doing something wrong. Show me the full command you're trying to use
[16:26] <llutz> b2w: zbarimg -q image.png
[16:26] <b2w> zbarimg wel.png | sed 's/^QR-Code:\information//'  this is the command i am trying
[16:27] <pedrinto> please help, i can't run xubuntu, i need edit grub.cfg with cd-live, but i no have permisions for edit! what can i do? (sorry for mi english)
[16:27] <m3pow> managed to install steam and tested with CS 1.6, one of the old games i have, thing is it can only run at max resolution which is 1920x1080
[16:27] <m3pow> driver issue?
[16:27] <theadmin> b2w: That's not right, : is not escaped/
[16:27] <theadmin> b2w: Instead, you escaped "i" which makes no sense
[16:28] <b2w> correct it and give the right command
[16:29] <mrtharepist> theadmin: thanks for the info. I am excited about the possibilities of another less restrictive Linux mobile os.
[16:29] <theadmin> b2w: zbarimg -q wel.png | sed 's/^QR\-Code\:information//' #, if I understand the output correctly.
[16:31] <sgtkilljoy> mrtharepist: android?
[16:32] <b2w> "b2w@b2w-TW8-SW8-DW8:~$ zbarimg  qr.png | sed 's/^QR\-Code\:information//' #  scanned 1 barcode symbols from 1 imagesQR-Code:http://ubuntubuzz.com  in 0 seconds"  .....
[16:32] <b2w> remove that QR-Code: from that
[16:33] <b2w> b2w@b2w-TW8-SW8-DW8:~$ zbarimg  qr.png | sed 's/^QR\-Code\:information//' # scanned 1 barcode symbols from 1 imagesQR-Code:http://ubuntubuzz.com  in 0 seconds -remove QR-Code from that
[16:33] <theadmin> b2w: zbarimg qr.png | sed 's/^QR\-Code\://'
[16:33] <mrtharepist> sgtkilljoy: yes. right now it is awful making apps for both ios and android because iOS is C derivatives and android is java. Ubuntu mobile will support QT (C++.)
[16:34] <mrtharepist> sgtkilljoy: it seems like there will be better options for developing cross platform.
[16:36] <stilia-johny> hi
[16:36] <k1l_> mrtharepist: better ask that specific questions in #ubuntu-tablet and #ubuntu-phone
[16:36] <stilia-johny> is anybody can help me with an asus eeepc ?
[16:36] <k1l_> !ask | stilia-johny
[16:37] <theadmin> stilia-johny: What's the actual problem?
[16:37] <mrtharepist> k1l_: yeah. I checked the main irc channel page and there was no mention of those. but I should head over there.
[16:37] <EmLeX> !patience
[16:37] <stilia-johny> is anybody can help me with an asus eeepc ?1
[16:37] <b2w> theadmin: thank you so much.this will be very helpful for my project.
[16:37] <EmLeX> nice
[16:37] <theadmin> b2w: If you are to work with large amounts of text, using Perl is a lot easier.
[16:38] <theadmin> b2w: But yeah, for quick things, sed + awk + grep
[16:38] <stilia-johny> ?
[16:38] <theadmin> stilia-johny: That is not a question.
[16:38] <stilia-johny> ?
[16:38] <theadmin> stilia-johny: What is your problem?
[16:38] <k1l_> stilia-johny: nobody can help you if you are not going to ask a real question
[16:38] <pedrinto> ¿how can edit the archive grub.cfg (this archive in OS xubuntu) with mode cd-live?? please i need help
[16:39] <b2w> i am working with small texts.this is more than enough to me.
[16:39] <stilia-johny> ?1
[16:39] <stilia-johny> how can i solve this! when i am trying to resume after a that i put the netbook in standby mode my screen is funny and i have to take the battery out
[16:39] <theadmin> pedrinto: ...Supposing "archive" means "file" (are you spanish? Try #ubuntu-es ), you should be able to simply mount the drive it's on and edit it. However... That file isn't meant to be edited by hand.
[16:40] <pedrinto> thank theadmin
[16:40] <b2w> theadmin: i am working with small texts only.this is more than enough for me.
[16:40] <theadmin> b2w: good, then
[16:41] <cads> if you leave a very short password for your computer logon, does that make it easier for internet based attackers to compromise your system?
[16:42] <stilia-johny> ?
[16:42] <theadmin> cads: Being generic, yes.
[16:42] <b2w> theadmin: by the by i am an computer science and engineering student and i have to present this project tomorrow morning.you helped me at right time.
[16:42] <b2w> theadmin: by the by i am a computer science and engineering student and i have to present this project tomorrow morning.you helped me at right time.
[16:42] <theadmin> b2w: Well, that's good then :)
[16:42] <cads> theadmin: but not in direct sense?
[16:43] <theadmin> cads: Well, hacking a password using brute force is generally simplier with a short password, but if it's a dictionary attack then the length doesn't really matter, long as the password is in the dict
[16:43] <Alocer> hello , anyone know what version of gnome is unity using or they are completely different ? ?
[16:43] <cads> I'm talking about a single charachter password
[16:44] <b2w> theadmin: i am having some other more ideas if this approves by my H O D. in case of that i want some help with this codings.will you help me?
[16:44] <llutz> cads: that is not a password, tha t is nonsense
[16:44] <cads> but for your user account
[16:44] <theadmin> b2w: If I'm around, yes.
[16:44] <b2w> theadmin: i am having some other more ideas if this approved by my H O D. in case of that i want some help with this codings.will you help me?
[16:44] <theadmin> b2w: Check your connection, your messages arrive twice.
[16:44] <cads> it's not as if it the password to your SSH account
[16:44] <cads> its*
[16:44] <clue_h> cads, i think your password could be longer to be safe
[16:44] <llutz> cads: users password IS ssh password
[16:45] <b2w> theadmin: could you please give me your email id ?
[16:45] <theadmin> b2w: Eh. I don't use e-mail for conversation, so just look for me here.
[16:45] <b2w> ok. your name?
[16:46] <b2w> theadmin:ok. your name?
[16:46] <theadmin> b2w: Uh, "theadmin". That's the nick I'm always going under here.
[16:46] <b2w> theadmin: thankyou again.bye!! :}
[16:49] <cads> llutz: does the average system expose it's user accounts to external requests like that?
[16:50] <sergy_> hello geeks
[16:50] <llutz> cads: if you have sshd running, sure
[16:50] <sunya7a> hi
[16:51] <cads> llutz: I mostly want a password on my laptop that is strong enough to prevent my cat from accidentally unlocking my computer when it's sleeping
[16:51] <f0r3st> sup me
[16:51] <d1zzYLuLz> i went through the automated installer to test some stuff out and I think i'm going to keep it installed for a little..i have 8gb of ram so my swap was set to 8gb..i did get it to reduce in size, but how can i allocate that 7gb back to antoher partition (i used the full encrypted lvm)
[16:51] <Pici> !info pwgen
[16:51] <d1zzYLuLz> or would i be better off just re-installing and manually partiioning?
[16:51] <cads> llutz: as for passwords to _any_ resources on my computer that are exposed to the actual internet, I want secure passwords
[16:51] <llutz> cads: do whatever you like, but don't ask about security when you use a 1 char "password"
[16:52] <cads> llutz: and for my password storage program, I'd use a secure password
[16:53] <cads> llutz: I mean, I think it's a legitimate question because I'm really asking how tightly coupled are your account password and your internet security
[16:54] <cads> and the answer is some, if you have shh other similar programs running
[16:54] <cads> well, lots
[16:54] <rcmaehl> How do I install flash on ubuntu again...
[16:54] <theadmin> rcmaehl: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[16:55] <theadmin> rcmaehl: If by "install ... again" you mean reinstall, then "sudo apt-get --reinstall install flashplugin-installer"
[16:56] <sunya7a> has someone attempted to install ubuntu server on an xserve3,1 server? I have heard there are some difficulties but haven't found much discussion
[16:56] <rcmaehl> theadmin: I mean install as this is a clean install
[16:56] <theadmin> rcmaehl: Well, then the first one
[16:57] <asgimao> someone need help?
[16:58] <sunya7a> asgimao: have you had any experience with install ubuntu server on a mac server machine? xserv3,1 in particular
[16:58] <theadmin> sunya7a: #ubuntu-server may be a better place for things like that.
[16:59] <sunya7a> theadmin: =) ty…i'll try them
[17:00] <BluesKaj> BBL
[17:02] <SIGKILLer> Nnn
[17:02] <nomike> hi
[17:04] <Nek> Hello my gui for installing graphic drivers disappeared
[17:04] <Nek> Have you got a (simple) solution for me ?
[17:04] <Nek> thanks
[17:05] <theadmin> Nek: The package for that on pre-12.10 systems is "jockey-gtk", on 12.10 it's part of software-properties-gtk
[17:05] <nomike> I think I found a bug in GTK+, X, dunno yet and I'd like to ask you if you could confirm that.
[17:06] <nomike> I have a textbox which contains a single line of text (e.g. browser address bar, but any (at least GTK+) will do). When I start selecting text by clicking and holding with my left mouse button and dragging it to the left, starting somewhere in the middle (e.g. from the 10th char onwards), text get's selected between where I clicked and the current mouse position.
[17:06] <Nek> theadmin, I dont have it in system settings ...
[17:07] <clue_h> nek type jockey-gtk in the terminal
[17:07] <theadmin> Nek: Right, that's the thing, you need to install either of those packages. Or both.
[17:07] <theadmin> Nek: sudo apt-get install jockey-gtk software-properties-gtk
[17:07] <georgebushidiot> hello ubuntu community, im taking my laptop for a service today, how do i prevent unauthorized access to my files? i dont want them to be able to view my files.
[17:07] <nomike> When I now move the mouse up, out of the text field, so it is above, all text IN FRONT of where I first click get's selected.
[17:08] <DJones> Nek: On 12.10 its under System Settings -> Software Sources -> Additional drivers, its a seperate app in system settings now
[17:08] <Nek> theadmin, clue_h, My system say that both are already here
[17:08] <theadmin> Nek: mmk. then just run it: gksudo jockey-gtk
[17:08] <georgebushidiot> ???
[17:08] <clue_h> Or type it in the dash
[17:09] <Nek> clue_h, it doesn't exists anymore in the dash oO
[17:09] <nomike> Is this intended behavior? Because to me this looks....weird (i just got a better word to describe it, but I've lost it for a moment)
[17:09] <chamunks> http://puu.sh/25DYV < I seem to be having issues clearing up my /boot using apt-get purge (old linux kernel images)
[17:09] <Nek> (thats the origin of my problem)
[17:09] <wootis> Hello everybody. I have a problem, just bought myself a asus F5GL laptop, and i cant install ubuntu on it, it boots up and i choose to install but then it crashes and nothing happens, same thing when i tried to install lubuntu on it.
[17:09] <Nek> and gksudo jockey-gtk don't work
[17:10] <theadmin> !doesntwork | Nek
[17:10] <wootis> I should point out that the cd is good installed another lap with it.
[17:10] <georgebushidiot> hello ubuntu community, im taking my laptop for a service today, how do i prevent unauthorized access to my files? i dont want them to be able to view my files.
[17:10] <theadmin> !patience | georgebushidiot
[17:11] <theadmin> georgebushidiot: Also, please change your nickname, as it may be offensive to some.
[17:11] <clue_h> george, you could copy them to another disk
[17:11] <Nek> DJones, your with your tricks I can see... something who look like driver download sources, that's a trail
[17:11] <theadmin> georgebushidiot: Actually yeah. Pull the HD out. :P
[17:12] <cagrijost> anyone here=?
[17:12] <dusxmt> cagrijost: Lots of people
[17:12] <georgebushidiot> no seriously guys, can i just set up a Guest account on this machine? but last time i try, guest account still can view 'master' account
[17:13] <cagrijost> kewl, any of u ever installed ubuntu on a win8 machine?
[17:13] <theadmin> georgebushidiot: That doesn't prevent anyone from accessing your files. Boot from a CD and you have them wide open.
[17:13] <Nek> I think the good value for drivers update is "nvidia-current-updates"
[17:13] <dusxmt> cagrijost: How do you mean it? Wubi? Virtual Machine?
[17:13] <Nek> Thanks for helping me :) .
[17:13] <cagrijost> no, just proper. last time i tried wubi it broke down my ubuntu install
[17:14] <talexb> Hi folks, just upgraded to 12.04, and my xterm windows are cut off by the banner at the top of the screen -- so I can't move them around.
[17:14] <cagrijost> from a usb, when i go on the installing page, then it wont recognize my win 8
[17:14] <cagrijost> so it looks like i got no os while om on ubuntu
[17:14] <talexb> If I try to create a new window, it goes right on top of the old one .. not helpful.
[17:15] <theadmin> talexb: Try "unity --reset"
[17:15] <talexb> theadmin, In an xterm window?
[17:15] <theadmin> talexb: Any X terminal.
[17:15] <dusxmt> cagrijost: It says there is no OS on the computer? (The installer)
[17:15] <cagrijost> yeah, i got  a 3tb harddisk with win 8 and all my software etc on it. but the installer sees it as empty
[17:16] <talexb> theadmin, Got a bunch of errors:  Warn: unhandled ConfigureNotify on 0xc0009f and Warn: this should never happen. you should probably file a bug about this.
[17:16] <wootis> Hi im having trouble with my asus F5GL laptop it wont let me install ubuntu or xu or lu. system seems to crash when i choose to install (ive tried using cd and usb).
[17:17] <theadmin> talexb: Doesn't sound like much of an error to me. "Warn" means warning.
[17:17] <theadmin> talexb: Generally debug stuff only developers care about. Did it work?
[17:17] <dusxmt> cagrijost: Strange. One way to fix this would be to manually partition the disk, but that's not easy for someone not familiar to the unix VFS....
[17:17] <talexb> theadmin, Nope -- my xterm's title bar is still hidden.
[17:17] <cagrijost> it gives me that option, but im afraid that it maybe would destroy my win8 system,
[17:18] <theadmin> talexb: Hm.. Odd. I suppose it's due to the window positioning being remembered...
[17:18] <dusxmt> cagrijost: I'll guide you through it, click the manual partition button, and tell me if you see the Windows partition
[17:18] <talexb> OK -- what can I do? This is my work machine and I need to get back to work.
[17:18] <cagrijost> i see no partitions
[17:19] <cagrijost> just one big empty 3tb partition
[17:19] <cagrijost> :(
[17:19] <theadmin> talexb: Why do you need xterm? There's a bunch of other terminals. Can't you use those?
[17:19] <dusxmt> cagrijost: Super strange. It's like the partition table got corrupted or something. Can you boot into W8?
[17:19] <mdh> cagrihost are you looking at the right hard disk?
[17:19] <cagrijost> yup, without problems.
[17:20] <talexb> xterm and uxterm all have the same problem. I tried xterm & and got same problem.
[17:20] <cagrijost> yeah, im pretty sure
[17:20] <talexb> They're all popping up at the top left, so that th title bar is hidden.
[17:20] <matriks404> what is difference between xterm and uxterm?
[17:20] <talexb> I usually have 10-15 xterms around my desktop ..
[17:20] <talexb> Have to ssh into a variety of VMs to do build stuff.
[17:21] <talexb> And where are the [] - X buttons to resize, maximize and close windows?
[17:22] <jempson> cagrihost: how are you looking at your hard disk?  I'm currenly booted into a wubi install of ubuntu and when I click on Nautilus I am unable to see my primary drive because ubuntu is booted from it.
[17:22] <mdh> anyone know how to do alt key combinations with connectbot on android?
[17:22] <andreas_> i have a small problem can some one help? andreas @ andreas-desktop  ~/Desktop
[17:22] <andreas_> └─ $ ▶ apt-get update
[17:22] <andreas_> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[17:22] <andreas_> E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/
[17:22] <andreas_> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[17:22] <andreas_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[17:22] <FloodBot1> andreas_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:23] <theadmin> andreas_: You need to use sudo.
[17:23] <cagrijost> i am booted into linux through a usb on the "try ubuntu" option. i tried installing but it wouldnt give me the option of installing alongside windows
[17:23] <andreas_> i know i need to use sudo
[17:23] <noob1234> 4?
[17:23] <noob1234> hello, My ethernet port is not working so I using a usb to ethernet device, but its not working in ubuntu. Can someone please help
[17:23] <theadmin> andreas_: ...well, you aren't using it.
[17:23] <andreas_> i dont know the commands
[17:24] <theadmin> andreas_: sudo apt-get update
[17:24] <k1l> andreas_: use sudo. or are you loged in as root?
[17:24] <theadmin> andreas_: Run "sudo command" to run the command with elevated (admin) priveleges.
[17:24] <mdh> or sudo su to become root
[17:24] <theadmin> mdh: Don't do that, use "sudo -i"
[17:24] <jempson> cagrijost: do you have ntfs-3g installed on that version?  Should be just wondering.
[17:25] <cagrijost> Jempson : how do i check that?
[17:26] <Lydia87> Hey guys, the proprietary nvidia drivers (all of them) give me trouble when trying to install them on ubuntu 12.10. When I reboot after installing these I only get a blank screen with my wallpaper and mouse cursor and that's it. Only uninstalling the proprietary drivers fixes that. Any hint on what I can do? :)
[17:26] <theadmin> Lydia87: Do not install propretiary drivers. Your video card is probably not supported by them.
[17:27] <jempson> cagrijost : easiest way is to open a terminal and type ntfs-3g.  you should get a response of no device is specified.  other wise apt-get install ntfs-3g and then you should be able to see your files.
[17:28] <Lydia87> theadmin: It used to be supported. It's a gfx 285 and it has been supported by these drivers for a long time. Since I want to game with this pc (steam :) I need the proprietary drivers :/
[17:28] <theadmin> jempson: NTFS-3g is present on all currently supported Ubuntu LiveCDs.
[17:28] <talexb> theadmin, OK -- I am installing Gnome .. http://complete-concrete-concise.com/ubuntu-2/ubuntu-12-04/ubuntu-12-04-how-to-install-the-gnome-desktop
[17:28] <cagrijost> it says no device is specified
[17:28] <jempson> theadmin: thanks I was pretty sure it was.
[17:28] <trouter> hey
[17:29] <kochroach> so, anything i can do to prevent my files being accessible while i send this laptop for a service?
[17:29] <llutz> kochroach: yes, remove harddisk
[17:29] <mdh> encrypt them
[17:29] <cagrijost> encrypt
[17:29] <kochroach> llutz joker
[17:30] <lewik> I try to find program for snap shots
[17:30] <theadmin> kochroach: It's not a joke...
[17:30] <llutz> kochroach: hrm, i'm serious
[17:30] <kochroach> then im not that stupid
[17:30] <bean__> ?
[17:30] <bean__> removing it is completely valid
[17:30] <theadmin> ...Why? What does the service need that has to do with hard drives?
[17:31] <mdh> idk if the service technician will fix a laptop you removed the hdd from
[17:31] <jempson> cagrijost: Assuming your 3t drive is /dev/sda make a folder named /mnt/sda and try typing ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda and see if you can mount the ntfs partition.
[17:31] <kochroach> im only using ubuntu for 2 months so cmon guise. help pl0x
[17:31] <llutz> kochroach: i'd never send a harddisk with data to anyone i don't know.
[17:31] <bean__> kochroach: please use proper english.
[17:31] <mdh> put a
[17:31] <cagrijost> jempson: im a rookie, didnt get that :b i found out smth new though
[17:31] <mdh> put all your personal files into a truecrypt container
[17:32] <cagrijost> i can see my files of the hdd with that mount harddisk thing
[17:32] <mdh> dont leave the key/password on the hdd
[17:32] <cagrijost> so i can go into the fileexplorer of the items
[17:32] <Myrtti> kochroach: what kind of suggestion were you expecting? how would you do it in other operating systems? encrypting harddrives is somewhat difficult if there's already data in them
[17:32] <llutz> kochroach: make an image of your disk, whipe it, send it away.
[17:32] <jempson> cagrijost:  good to hear.  I can send  you exact commands, but it sounds like you are good now.
[17:33] <cagrijost> not rly jempson, i think u misunderstood me then :b the problem is not that i cant find the hdd, the problem is just that the installer wont recognize that i have the other os installed. so it want to whipe it and install ubuntu
[17:33] <mdh> image the disk and install a clean copy of windows on it if that's what they're expecting to get
[17:34] <BluesKaj> !u | cagrijost
[17:34] <cagrijost> you* -.-
[17:34] <jempson> cagrijost: oh I think I missed that when I logged in.  12.10 install or 12.04 LTS?
[17:34] <kochroach> Myrtti: im expecting some answers like "yes, create a guest account and do blah blah blah and you're set!" but i guess its not possible, no?
[17:34] <cagrijost> 12.10
[17:35] <mdh> kochroach: did you buy the computer with ubuntu on it?
[17:35] <Myrtti> kochroach: if the disk isn't encrypted, adding accounts to the system has no difference
[17:36] <Myrtti> kochroach: or if the home directories aren't encrypted
[17:36] <talexb> theadmin, FYI, I fixed my problem by installing Gnome (that I'd happily been using in the previous release) and restarting.
[17:39] <kochroach> mdh: i wish bro, but unfortunately no, never saw a laptop with ubuntu pre-installed. why asking?
[17:39] <kochroach> Myrtti: kk :[
[17:39] <cagrijost> by the way, does anyone know if u can find some engineering simulation tools on ubuntu, or do i have to boot into windows while in school?
[17:39] <bean__> kochroach: because usually they will expect whatever OS was on it originally to be on it.
[17:40] <mdh> kochroach: what bean__ said
[17:40] <mdh> kochroach: what needs to be serviced on it?
[17:41] <matriks404> cagrijost: for example Blender?
[17:41] <kochroach> bean__: ahhh, it comes with freedos or something like that.
[17:41] <cagrijost> some electrical circuit simulator, like multisim :b
[17:41] <bean__> lol
[17:41] <bean__> what kind of machine is this, kochroach
[17:42] <mdh> i've never heard of a machine that comes with freedos
[17:42] <cagrijost> jempson: are you here for a while? i think i found a solution through google
[17:42] <cagrijost> but im not sure
[17:42] <jempson> cagrijost: yes I am.  Just eating lunch.
[17:42] <angs> is mcasadevall here?
[17:43] <bean__> angs: you can see the user list on the right, no/
[17:43] <cagrijost> super. ill try the other thing then. its partitioning from win and installing that way. ill let you know. thanks for the help!
[17:45] <kochroach> bean__ mdh ideapad u410, i have problem with the very poor wlan performance. stupid lenovo!
[17:45] <bean__> I love my lenovo
[17:45] <bean__> and those come with windows 7 on them...
[17:46] <mdh> kochroach: are you sure its the laptop having the wireless problem or too many neighbors using their wireless?
[17:49] <angs> I am trying to follow the instruction here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Toolchain/Crosscompilers/ARMEABIToolchain apt-get install gcc-4.3-source it does not install. I used gcc-4.6 instead.  the instruction uses "make -f /usr/src/gcc-4.3/rules.source patch-source" but ls /usr/src/gcc-4.6/ -a outputs only debian  gcc-4.6.3.tar.xz  patches.what should I do for the second step of the 2. build base gcc?
[17:50] <ikonia> angs: sorry, what is your question ?
[17:50] <ikonia> angs: the instructions are quite clear on the page
[17:51] <angs> apt-get install gcc-4.3-source didn't install. I used apt-get install gcc-4.6-source
[17:51] <ikonia> angs: ok and?
[17:51] <angs> the instruction says "make -f /usr/src/gcc-4.3/rules.source patch-source" but there is no such directory on make -f /usr/src/gcc-4.6/
[17:51] <angs> http://pastebin.com/FG6tjRe4
[17:51] <angs> what would you suggest me to do
[17:52] <przemek_> hello how to change root password without root pasword beeing user? :) is it possible ?
[17:52] <ikonia> angs: I suggest you look for the fules file and the patches file in the subdirectories
[17:52] <ikonia> angs: and then I also ask why you are root - as ubuntu has no enabled root account
[17:53] <mdh> some people would rather do stuff as root rather than sudo I would guess
[17:53] <ikonia> mdh: yes, but a.) the root account is locked b.) building software as root is a bad practice, hance why I'm asking HIM why HE is root, not you why HE is root
[17:54] <kochroach> mdh: 100% sure, i cant get any signal if im 20 feet far from the router. also there are even some threads on the lenovo forum about this issue, Lenovo are not doing an honest business, people should avoid buying their products.
[17:54] <angs> it is easier to do commands as root
[17:54] <ikonia> angs: the root account is locked
[17:54] <bean__> kochroach: my lenovo works just great, don't bash on entire companies
[17:54] <ikonia> angs: and the development commands do not need "root" - so it's not "easier"
[17:54] <wootis> Hi im having trouble with my asus F5GL laptop it wont let me install ubuntu or xu or lu. system seems to crash when i choose to install or the display just freeze and nothing happens (ive tried using cd and usb).
[17:55] <ikonia> kochroach: actually - you need to stop now, we are here to help you with ubuntu, I'm on a lenovo laptop now approx 30 feet from my access point, so you need to stop generalising and complaining and please focus on the issue
[17:55] <mdh> kochroach: i would also run a wifi signal scanner or something, to see if there are a bunch of other routers around you, but there may be something wrong with the laptops wifi, could be a possibility
[17:55] <bean__> wootis: that's quit an old laptop, yeah?
[17:55] <Devilholk> Good day! Where should I put files to be shared with several users, like git repos?
[17:56] <ikonia> Devilholk:  up to you, many version control products, and file share products available,
[17:56] <wootis> bean__ yes, it has geforce 8200mg and a 2ghz intel dual, 4gig ram.
[17:56] <theadmin> Devilholk: Well, any directory that's accessible by all the users really, there's no standard defined for this in FHS.
[17:56] <Devilholk> ikonia: Yes but where in POSIX systems is it common to put files shared between users?
[17:56] <ikonia> Devilholk: there is no standard place, it's up to you
[17:57] <Devilholk> I know there is no standard, but there are places that are more common than other places. Like it is common to put local binaries /usr/local/bin but not a standard
[17:57] <ikonia> Devilholk: there is no common place, it's down toyou
[17:57] <ikonia> to you
[17:57] <sudoers> hmm bottom/last line (i use sudo visudo command) sudoers.tmp is this user ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: /home/user/homemadescript
[17:58] <sudoers> why it doesn't work. still i need to use password i have ubuntu 12.04.2
[17:59] <NastyNaz> are there any ways to read PDFs in terminal?
[17:59] <sudoers> hmm bottom/last line (i use sudo visudo command) sudoers.tmp is this "user ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: /home/user/homemadescript"
[17:59] <RZAFC> I just installed ubuntu 12.04 for ppc and the only way i can access terminal is by typing ctrl+alt+t
[17:59] <fAz4> Which part of ubuntu is responsible for automatic ARP  packets in network ?
[17:59] <RZAFC> how do i lock it to the tool bar?
[17:59] <Devilholk> I guess I should put it in /var
[17:59] <ikonia> fAz4: it will arp on dhcp requests
[17:59] <ikonia> fAz4: what's the real question, as arps are quite common
[18:00] <RZAFC> should I reinstall the os?
[18:00] <fAz4> ikonia: i attached my laptop in a company which uses active directory
[18:00] <ikonia> fAz4: ......and ?
[18:00] <fAz4> ikonia: and ubuntu starts to send lots of ARP packets
[18:00] <ikonia> fAz4: probably a dhcp request
[18:00] <fAz4> ikonia: so i can't use my network interface
[18:01] <ikonia> fAz4: an arp will not stop you using your network interface
[18:01] <fAz4> ikonia: whose fault it is ?
[18:01] <RZAFC> I just installed ubuntu 12.04 lts for ppc and the only way i can access terminal is by typing ctrl+alt+t
[18:01] <ikonia> fAz4: it's not a "fault" an arp is not a problem
[18:01] <RZAFC> how do i lock it to the tool bar?
[18:01] <kochroach> lol sorry for making you lenovo fanboys angry.
[18:01] <fAz4> ikonia: but it gets all the bandwidth !
[18:01] <ikonia> arps don't eat bandwidth
[18:01] <ikonia> fAz4: arp's are light
[18:02] <fAz4> it does on
[18:02] <mdh> fAz4: how much bandwidth are the arps using in total
[18:02] <fAz4> ikonia: 36 KB/s
[18:02] <Sazpaimon_> so my ubuntu 12.10 install has two issues
[18:02] <bean__> lol
[18:02] <bean__> 36 KB/s is negligible
[18:02] <ikonia> fAz4: is your machine actually on the network and does it have an address ?
[18:02] <fAz4> ikonia: yes
[18:03] <fAz4> ikonia: they have set proxy for accessing to net
[18:03] <Sazpaimon_> 1. My touchpad's horizontal acceleration is crazy fast when a secondary monitor is plugged in and 2. The secondary monitor has heavy flickering
[18:03] <ikonia> fAz4: are you %100 sure, as it's common for AD domains to not give out IP's to non-domain members, so you'll see dhcp doing arps to try to get an address (and fail, so keep going)
[18:03] <Sazpaimon_> both of these are pretty major issues that are stopping me from using ubuntu in general on this machine, and I hope that they can be fixed
[18:03] <fAz4> ikonia: how can i make it stop ?
[18:03] <ikonia> fAz4: depends what's causing it, check what I just said
[18:04] <bean__> fAz4: does "ifconfig" show a valid IP?
[18:04] <fAz4> bean_: i have a valid IP
[18:04] <Sazpaimon_> both displays are LCD
[18:04] <matriks404> fAz4: you have router?
[18:04] <RZAFC> I just installed ubuntu 12.04 lts for ppc and the only way i can access terminal is by typing ctrl+alt+t
[18:05] <RZAFC> how do i lock it to the tool bar?
[18:05] <fAz4> matriks404:  not sure it's big company i just see cables
[18:05] <ikonia> fAz4: this may sound stupid, but how do you know it's a valid address ?
[18:06] <fAz4> ikonia: because i talked to the Network admin
[18:06] <ikonia> fAz4: it really doesn't sound like it is on the networks, as 36kb is nothing on a 10mb lan,
[18:06] <ikonia> it's less than nothing on a 100, 1000mb lan
[18:06] <fAz4> ikonia:  they've set limitation for each user
[18:07] <ikonia> fAz4: I'm sorry, that doesn't sound realistic,
[18:07] <fAz4> ikonia: bro it's iran, everything's realistic
[18:07] <ikonia> fAz4: I suspect there is something else going on and you are not on the network properly
[18:07] <ikonia> probably to do with AD and authentication for dhcp requests
[18:08] <bean__> fAz4: is your issue that you cant connect to the internet?
[18:08] <fAz4> ikonia: but fedora users have no problem with the network
[18:08] <bean__> fAz4: because then maybe you havent set your proxy correctly.
[18:08] <fAz4> bean_: i can connect
[18:08] <ikonia> fAz4: that's interesting
[18:08] <bean__> then what is the problem?
[18:09] <ikonia> fAz4: can we do a stupid test ?
[18:09] <fAz4> what ?
[18:10] <mdh> fAz4: how are you connected to irc?
[18:10] <fAz4> mdh: i'm home right now
[18:11] <rj11> I have a UI-behavior question/poll and was recommended to in here. Consider a UI editor for editing menus/toolbars, would you prefer updates to be visible in the main window in realtime or deferred until OK is clicked?
[18:11] <bean__> !poll | rj11
[18:11] <rj11> I seriously think I was pranked...
[18:11] <RZAFC> cool I just figured it out
[18:12] <bean__> rj11: ?
[18:12] <sazpaimon_> so I installed the latest nvidia drivers to see if that fixes the flickering issue, and it's still happening and now unity will not load, I just get the desktop, but no unity bar
[18:12] <fAz4> Just wanted to know if it's possible to disable ARP ?
[18:12] <bean__> fAz4: so, at work, you get no network connection?
[18:12] <fAz4> bean__: yes it's too slow
[18:13] <bean__> fAz4: okay, but 36 KB/s is not much.
[18:13] <bean__> so
[18:13] <rj11> bean__: I was specifically recommended to ask that question in here. :)
[18:13] <bean__> its not the ARM thats doing it.
[18:13] <bean__> rj11: by who
[18:13] <fAz4> bean__: i said i have only 50 kB/s
[18:13] <bean__> fAz4: ARP*
[18:13] <bean__> that seems quite silly
[18:13] <fAz4> bean__:  it's the company policy
[18:14] <rj11> bean__: thrawed in #defocus when I asked it in there (which I thought would be the most appropriate channel).
[18:14] <fAz4> ye it is
[18:14] <bean__> fAz4: there are ways to disable ARP, but if you don't understand what ARP is doing it's probably not a goodidea.
[18:14] <fAz4> bean__: just want to test it if works
[18:15] <fAz4> bean__: anyway to disable ARP ?
[18:15] <ikonia> fAz4: sorry, can we do a test
[18:15] <bean__> fAz4: ip link set dev nameofinterface arp off
[18:16] <fAz4> ikonia: i'm at home right now
[18:16] <Tex_Nick> fAz4:  wikipedia has a short but informative article on APR ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Address_Resolution_Protocol
[18:16] <sazpaimon_> ugh, compiz keeps crashing hexchat
[18:17] <fAz4> thanks i'll test that
[18:18] <bean__> personally i'd probably just tell the IT guy that their policy is really dumb
[18:18] <bean__> cuz 50 KB/s is like less than dialup speeds
[18:18] <nichlas> nope
[18:19] <nichlas> dialup is less than 5KB/s
[18:19] <bean__> valid.
[18:19] <bean__> it was hyperbole
[18:19] <nichlas> ah, ok.
[18:20] <bean__> still will take like... > 2 hrs to download a 50 mb files
[18:24] <ClientAlive>  Does anyone know something like belarc or magic jellybean (finds system information and license keys on Windows machines) that can be run as a boot disc?
[18:25] <jempson> ClientAlive: try hirems boot cd. I think magic jellybean is one of the apps.
[18:26] <ClientAlive> jempson: awesome. I'll check that out - thanks
[18:29] <martin_> Hi all, newbie here.  I'm just trying to figure out a problem - if I leave my machine running, I come back to it frozen  and black screen.  "Don't suspend" is set in power management... is there any common issue I should know about?  Any behavior related to "you left your computer on" that could cause this?  Or should I just be looking at the usual places (try to ping the machine remotely...
[18:29] <martin_> ...while it's "locked" etc.)
[18:30] <bean__> martin_: you could install an openssh server and see if you can SSH to it when its blacked out
[18:30] <bean__> and check logs
[18:30] <nichlas> martin_: sometimes the black screen feature makes problems
[18:31] <martin_> tx.  Where do I look for logs?
[18:31] <nichlas>  /var/logs
[18:31] <samireln> peut on parler en français ici?
[18:31] <nichlas> or just  /var/log
[18:31] <sazpaimon_> ok so, uninstalled the nvidia drivers and now unity is back, but I still have the shaky secondary monitor
[18:31] <jempson> martin_: If you are at the computer try typing crtl+alt+F1 and see if you can log in to the terminal.  I suspect this is video card related.  are you using proprietary drivers or open source?
[18:31] <sazpaimon_> it ONLY happens on displayport though, HDMI is fine
[18:32] <sazpaimon_> this doesn't happen in windows, just ubuntu. Can anyone help?
[18:32] <martin_> proprietary nVidia, I think.
[18:33] <sazpaimon_> well the laptop is using optimus graphics, so the actual display is going through the HD4000, not nvidia
[18:33] <jempson> martin_: did the drivers install automatically when you booted into ubuntu via the additional drivers utility?  Or did you manually go and get drivers?
[18:33] <nichlas> sazpaimon_: can it be the refresh rate? What is it when you run windows?
[18:34] <sazpaimon_> probably 60hz
[18:34] <sazpaimon_> the secondary display is LCD
[18:34] <matriks404> can i turn off keyboard for 20 seconds? I need to clean my keyboard :/
[18:34] <nichlas> matriks404: you can unplug it
[18:34] <nichlas> unless laptop :)
[18:35] <martin_> @jempson - I don't remember exactly, I installed the drivers quite some time ago.  Iirc I grabbed proprietary drivers from the software centre.
[18:35] <SimpleBlue> is there a ubuntu chat channel?
[18:35] <martin_> Is there somewhere I should check that?
[18:35] <DJones> !ot | SimpleBlue
[18:35] <nichlas> matriks404: alternatively you can lock your screen
[18:35] <SimpleBlue> thanx DJones
[18:35] <sazpaimon_> http://pastebin.com/ck3iyXmG here's the output of xrandr
[18:38] <craigbass1976> How can I tell which line in ~/.ssh/known_hosts is which host?  I don't want to wipe the whole file to just get rid of how it stored my laptop's ip.
[18:38] <lunchtime> usually at the end of the key line there is an identifier after ==
[18:39] <Whoopsie> Hello there
[18:39] <craigbass1976> lunchtime, no.
[18:39] <martin_> Ah, jockey-text says I'm running Experimental nVidia binary drivers
[18:39] <Whoopsie> is there a command for adding automaticly the newest kernels to my ubuntu ?
[18:40] <martin_> I assume experimental nvidia binary drivers aren't the most stable?
[18:40] <Whoopsie> running now ubuntu 12.04 with kernel 3.5 but there is 3.8 how to install that one ?
[18:40] <Noorideen> :)
[18:40] <llutz> craig901: ssh-keygen -H  -F <hostname or IP address>
[18:41] <bean__> Whoopsie: apt-get dist-upgrade should give you what is in the repos as most current, if you want something outside of that you'd have to compile it yourself
[18:41] <RZAFC> the webpages in firefox have some images that are blueish when I browse. i just install ubuntu 12.04 on my system any idea what's wrong?
[18:42] <Whoopsie> but i want to upgrade to 12.10
[18:42] <lunchtime> craigbass1976 how about at the beginning of the line you should have a host description in [] or just at the beginning
[18:42] <Whoopsie> i want to stay at 12.04
[18:42] <Whoopsie> i know it is possible to install 3.8 on 12.04
[18:42] <sazpaimon_> nichlas, looks like it's making it 25Hz for some reason
[18:42] <bean__> Whoopsie: dist-upgrade won't upgrade you to 12.10
[18:42] <sazpaimon_> if I do xrandr --output DP3 --auto, it sets it back to 60Hz, but I know this won't stay
[18:42] <sazpaimon_> what is making ubuntu set it to 25Hz
[18:42] <RZAFC> the webpages in firefox have some images that are blueish when I browse. i just install ubuntu 12.04 on my system any idea what's wrong?
[18:43] <bean__> !patience | RZAFC
[18:43] <Whoopsie> already up to date bean__
[18:43] <Whoopsie> i try is with .deb files of the kernel
[18:43] <bean__> Whoopsie: "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade"
[18:43] <Whoopsie> but the won't work
[18:43] <bean__> Whoopsie: yes, you'll have to compile it yourself. Is there some feature on 3.8 that you're really wanting?
[18:44] <Whoopsie> still no updates
[18:45] <bean__> Whoopsie: okay, then you either need to find a deb that will work, or build it yourself
[18:46] <Whoopsie> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.8-rc7-raring/
[18:46] <Whoopsie> won't work
[18:46] <bean__> okay
[18:46] <bean__> why not?
[18:46] <Whoopsie> or im doing something wong
[18:46] <Whoopsie> cd to the dir
[18:46] <Whoopsie> then sudo dpkg-i *.deb
[18:46] <Whoopsie> but won't work
[18:46] <bean__> dpkg -i
[18:46] <bean__> and http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.8-raring/ is the correct dir
[18:47] <bean__> the RCs are not what you want
[18:47] <Whoopsie> i ?
[18:47] <Whoopsie> ?
[18:47] <bean__> Whoopsie: dpkg -i, not dpkg-i
[18:49] <bean__> Whoopsie: keep in mind that those kernels are NOT tested on 12.04, and you things may not work and people will be reluctant to help you short of telling you to use a supported kernel
[18:51] <angs>  I do add-apt-repository ppa:germia/archive3, apt-get update outputs this error W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/germia/archive3/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found. the correct link should be http://ppa.launchpad.net/germia/archive3/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/source/Sources what file do I need to edit to fix it?
[18:52] <bean__> angs: /etc/apt/sources.d/some-ppa-file
[18:52] <angs> thank you bean__
[18:52] <bean__> where some-ppa-file is the file related to that ppa
[18:53] <nichlas> angs: is precise your version?
[18:53] <OerHeks> angs no Quantal packages available
[18:53] <OerHeks> https://launchpad.net/~germia/+archive/archive3
[18:53] <angs> I have 12.10
[18:53] <angs> yes it does not have quantal version
[18:53] <OerHeks> bad luck, contact the ppa owner
[18:53] <annl> how can I add another name server to my resolv.conf -- it keeps getting flushed on boot
[18:54] <angs> I wrote on #launchpad, nobody reacts
[18:54] <nichlas> angs: launchpad is just the platform
[18:54] <nichlas> it's one of their users who hasn't created a build for quantal
[18:54] <OerHeks> angs, maybe in #ubuntu-arm they can help
[18:54] <bean__> annl: http://hardc0l2e.wordpress.com/2012/05/09/ubuntu-12-04-etcresolv-conf-127-0-0-1-implementation-with-dnsmasq/ seems to have a solution
[18:55] <angs> nichlas, overheks: thank you
[18:56] <jempson> martin_: no experimental drivers could be your issue.  let me know if the crtl+atl+F1 allows you to log in.  If it does then your system isn't freezing completely and thus most likely not your video card drivers.
[18:56] <annl> bean__: I will check it out --thanks
[19:02] <angs> it may sounds too noob question: when I see such instruction http://pastebin.com/TXB9zrYF how do I suppose to install it?  does it mean choose one of the packages that is separated by \ ?
[19:02] <ClientAlive> jempson: Do you know where in Hiren's I can find a utility to recover a lost license key?
[19:03] <Tex_Nick> a few days ago i setup a second monitor on this box, no problems ... a few minutes i had to reboot dou to kernel update ... the second monitor wasn't detected ... i had to go into "system settings/display" and toggle the second monitor off then back on ... kinda hate to do that each time i reboot ... any sugestions ... google isn't helping much, still searcching though
[19:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> licence for what, ClientAlive?
[19:03] <Tex_Nick> 12.10 with gnome de ^
[19:03] <Tex_Nick> *gnome classic ^
[19:03] <bean__> angs: no, the \ is just a line seperator
[19:04] <SpecialEmily> ubuntu on a mac mini; likely to work / be any good?
[19:04] <ClientAlive> ntzrmtthihu777: The computer I"m working on the sticker wtih the windows o/s license key is completely worn over the year. One of the thing's I'll be doning on the customer's computer will require it. They also have Word (which they paid for) but they may not be able to find the key for that.
[19:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> ok, kinda off-topic but I gotta ask somewhere #wine is invite-only, it seems, so I can't ask there. winetricks refuses to install the corefonts, stopping at arial due to sha1 mismatch
[19:05] <angs> bean__: can I also use it like this apt-get install sudo apt-get install gcc-arm-none-eabi binutils-arm-none-eabi && apt-get install newlib-arm-none-eabi && apt-get install gdb-arm-none-eabi?
[19:05] <bean__> angs: yes, or just all as one apt-get
[19:05] <angs> thank you bean__
[19:05] <DJones> !register | ntzrmtthihu777 Some channels require a registered nick before you can join/talk,
[19:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> magical jelly bean, ClientAlive
[19:05] <jempson> ClientAlive: no not off the top of my head.
[19:05] <Tex_Nick> ntzrmtthihu777:  tried #winehq ?
[19:06] <ClientAlive> ntzrmtthihu777: ok, I thought maybe Hiren's would have a tool for it but I can get magic jellybean too. Thx.
[19:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> yeah, I know about that DJones, but this was an instant boot (and I'm not banned, never been there) not like one of those registered channels. Tex_Nick thanks for the chan, I'll have a look
[19:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> mjb does rather well, I find, and you can check the registry too I think
[19:07] <jempson> ClientAlive: according to http://www.hirensbootcd.org the cd should come with Windows Product Key update Tool.  I think this will show you the current Key.
[19:07] <Tex_Nick> ntzrmtthihu777:  np hope they can help :)
[19:08] <lauren> heya
[19:08] <ClientAlive> jempson: yes, ahh, so that's the name of it. I jusssttt found a web page talking about using Hiren's for this too.  :)
[19:08] <ClientAlive> thx
[19:08] <DJones> ntzrmtthihu777: Sorry, I didn't notice you'd put #wine & not #winehq as the channel your were trying to join, #wine is probably either not used or a private wine dev channel
[19:09] <jreivax> Boa Tarde
[19:09] <jreivax> primeira vez por aqui
[19:09] <DJones> !br | jreivax
[19:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> yeah, that got it Tex_Nick, thanks.
[19:10] <Tex_Nick> ntzrmtthihu777:  great ;-)
[19:11] <ClientAlive> fwiw - here's what I found -> http://www.raymond.cc/blog/easiest-way-to-recover-xp-and-vista-product-key-from-dead-or-unbootable-windows/
[19:11] <ClientAlive> in case it interests anyone else
[19:13] <nichlas> ClientAlive: don
[19:13] <nichlas> don't worry. we h
[19:13] <nichlas> argh
[19:13] <nichlas> stupid enter key
[19:13] <nichlas> i give up
[19:13] <ClientAlive> stupid enter key  :p
[19:14] <jempson> ClientAlive: thanks
[19:14] <ClientAlive> np
[19:14] <sazpaimon_> okay, so I can't figure out why ubuntu is setting the refresh rate on my secondary monitor to 25Hz
[19:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> yeah, that would work better if the windows is scragged
[19:15] <sazpaimon_> the only way to fix it is to run xrandr --output DP3 --auto
[19:16] <_Trullo> my ubuntu desktop is bigger than the screen, how do I fix that? :/
[19:16] <sazpaimon_> how do I make it so ubuntu uses the right refresh rate when the second display is activated?
[19:18] <chamunks> I dont really know how to clear this up at all
[19:18] <Tex_Nick> _Trullo:  adjust the monitor vertical & horizontal settings
[19:18] <chamunks> http://puu.sh/25DYV
[19:19] <AcidRain2012> do we have a good xml viewer for ubuntu? i dont want to see code. i want to see a page. firefox doesnt handle it very well at all
[19:19] <Tex_Nick> _Trullo:  or ust the monitor auto adjust
[19:20] <_Trullo> it's ubuntu that's bigger, not the other way around
[19:20] <rajat> hello
[19:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> are you THE Sazpaimon, Sazpaimon?
[19:20] <rajat> i m using a ub12 on my laptop
[19:21] <rajat> i want to add on top panel few icon im not able to so kindly help me
[19:21] <sazpaimon_> also, even more annoying, when a secondary display is plugged in, my synaptics touchpad's horizontal speed doubles
[19:21] <chamunks> I'm having trouble updating my remote servers linux-image's http://puu.sh/25DYV
[19:21] <sazpaimon_> since both monitors are 1920x1080, it makes the touchpad almost unusable
[19:21] <chamunks> this is what returns from apt when I try to sudo apt-get -f install
[19:21] <Techathy> can anyone here explain to me why this script doesn't work on Ubuntu 12.04?  http://pastebin.ca/2316065
[19:22] <tgunr> To Whom it concerns (talking to you bot), Ubuntu 12.10 + Parallels 8 + Parallels Tools = FAIL
[19:22] <Tex_Nick> _Trullo:  you canchange the screen resolution in "System Settings/Display"
[19:22] <tgunr> uninstall Parallel Tools before upgrading
[19:22] <rajat> super+alt+rightclik
[19:22] <sazpaimon_> I'd really, *really* appreciate any help with these two issues
[19:22] <rajat> i musing toadd
[19:23] <rajat> i m using to add
[19:23] <tgunr> can somene add this to the bot?
[19:23] <chamunks> is there possibly a way to force an apt-get purge X without having to run apt-get -f install
[19:23] <chamunks> because it wont run because there  is apparently not enough space but theres not enough space because I cant apt-get purge
[19:23] <d1mAs1q> hi all, this channel for xubuntu too?
[19:23] <Noorideen> can i run ubuntu 64bit if i have 3GB of ram?
[19:23] <ikonia> d1mAs1q: sure, also #xubuntu
[19:23] <_Trullo> Tex_Nick, the resolution is correct
[19:23] <ikonia> Noorideen: yes
[19:24] <chamunks> so im kind of screwed with this paradoxical problem here.
[19:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> yeah, I started with just 4 gb, Noorideen
[19:24] <d1mAs1q> thx!)
[19:24] <Noorideen> ntzrmtthihu777, i have 3 gb not 4 gb :D
[19:24] <chamunks> I tried just simply navigating to /boot and moving the old linux-image's to another directory to see if that makes any difference but it seems thats not the case
[19:24] <ikonia> Noorideen: 3 is fine
[19:24] <Tex_Nick> _Trullo:  what does the screen look like ?
[19:24] <ikonia> Noorideen: 64bit is your cpu instruction set, nothing to do with ram
[19:24] <DoYouKnow> why is it that when I downloaded the ubuntu 12.04.2 iso, I had to change the name of vmlinuz.efi to vmlinuz?
[19:25] <seemz> remove
[19:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> I know, lol, I got 12.04 32 running on a tiny dell inspiron for someone else
[19:25] <DoYouKnow> did I download the wrong iso?
[19:25] <Noorideen> ikonia, what do you recommend 32bit or 64bit, and why?
[19:25] <ikonia> DoYouKnow: because it boots vmlinuz by default
[19:25] <ikonia> Noorideen: I recommend based on what you need
[19:25] <Techathy> Noorideen: I'm running 12.04 on a machine with 1.5GB… painful but working
[19:25] <DoYouKnow> ikonia: wait, there was supposed to be a vmlinuz on there?
[19:26] <Noorideen> hmm okay i am going for 64bit then :P
[19:26] <Techathy> 2.5GB sorry
[19:26] <DoYouKnow> I just saw vmlinuz.efi
[19:26] <ikonia> DoYouKnow: look in your grub config what it's setup to boot
[19:26] <DoYouKnow> it's working now, but I'm curious
[19:26] <DoYouKnow> I have ubuntu installed, etc
[19:26] <Noorideen> btw thank you guys
[19:27] <chamunks> this is my partition table i've not got eyes for this I'll skim it but im not entirely sure what im looking at http://puu.sh/25HxI
[19:27] <chamunks> i really hope someone is awake here that can look at this.
[19:28] <ikonia> chamunks: what's the actual problem you want to fix
[19:28] <ikonia> chamunks: I see lots of lines of text but not a clear definition of your problem
[19:28] <ftruzzi> Hi, I really don't know what happend, after regular update unity has gone, (I'm in tty1 right now), I think that nautilus is still running because I have a desktop icons, but no menus, so no launchers, anyone knows how to make unity come back?
[19:28] <chamunks> ikonia, well ultimately I want to be able to apt-get update without problems and in order to do that it reccomends i apt-get -f install
[19:29] <ikonia> chamunks: ok, and what happens if you do apt-get -f install
[19:29] <Tex_Nick> _Trullo:  if your desktop is extending off the edges of the monitor ... use your monitors display settings to shrink the horizontal and/or vertical size
[19:29] <chamunks> ikonia, in order to apt-get -f install I have to apt-get purge linux-image(OLD)
[19:29] <chamunks> ikonia, and in order to do that I must apt-get -f install
[19:29] <ikonia> chamunks: ok, what happens if you try to purge the old kernel
[19:30] <chamunks> ikonia, http://puu.sh/25DYV this is what happens when i do what apt-get -f install reccomends and one second and I'll paste the part you just asked for.
[19:30] <ikonia> chamunks: is this a vps....
[19:30] <chamunks> ikonia, I believe its a baremetal
[19:30] <ikonia> what'a "bare metal"
[19:30] <chamunks> non vps server sorry
[19:31] <thinknow> chamunks, : what is -f for when you apt ?
[19:31] <ikonia> chamunks: why are you root ?
[19:31] <ikonia> chamunks: ubuntu installs lock the root account
[19:31] <chamunks> ikonia, its just a shared account and I dont want to type the sudo pwd all the time is all its just laziness that made me sudo -i
[19:32] <ikonia> chamunks: it looks like your sources out of sync
[19:32] <ikonia> chamunks: run apt-get update first
[19:32] <ikonia> chamunks: if you read that text you'll see you have a dependency miss-match
[19:32] <Quest> how to uninstall an app deleting all its configs and settings and files?
[19:32] <chamunks> ikonia, this is what happens when I sudo apt-get purge linux-image-XXX
[19:32] <chamunks> http://puu.sh/25HHk
[19:32] <diegosnat> hi people!! Im screwed!!! I just turn on my pc and I ve got a message saying that the system failed to mount it and Ive got a temporary root where I cannot edit anything because it is readonly... what can i do??
[19:32] <ikonia> Quest: open the package manager, find the app, hit purge
[19:32] <Quest> ikonia,  i am on command line only
[19:32] <ikonia> Quest: then use apt-get purge
[19:33] <Quest> ikonia,  apt-get purge appname?
[19:33] <ikonia> chamunks: yes, you've got a dependency problems
[19:33] <efes> hello :) I can't handle with apt-get. There's a kind of unsatisfied dependency. Don't know why and how to resolve it. -f switch does nothing. Log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1692183/  Thanks in advance :)
[19:33] <ftruzzi> Hi, I really don't know what happend, after regular update unity has gone, (I'm in tty1 right now), I think that nautilus is still running because I have a desktop icons, but no menus, so no launchers, anyone knows how to make unity come back?
[19:33] <chamunks> ikonia, http://puu.sh/25HJ5 just to be thorough im pasting the sudo apt-get update output
[19:33] <GuidoPallemans_> startx
[19:33] <SpindizZzy> hi all
[19:33] <GuidoPallemans_> chamunks: run startx
[19:33] <SpindizZzy> Im trying to disable the nouveau kernel driver
[19:34] <ikonia> chamunks: what is ttp://overviewer.org
[19:34] <Quest> ikonia,  still i see its files on system
[19:34] <SpindizZzy> to install the NVIDIA drivers on an old 32bit system
[19:34] <rcmaehl> I need help with a Broadcom B4321 802.11a/b/g/n card. It shows up as eth1 and gives an error of "nl80211 not found." with things like iw and network related things. Ubuntu 12.10 64-bit. Will pastebin addtional information as needed.
[19:34] <ikonia> chamunks: other than that, that update looks all good
[19:34] <gartral> hey all, I just got done transferring a few photos from my phone to my laptop with bluetooth, where does ubuntu 12.10 *put* those files? I can't find them anywhere
[19:35] <diegosnat> hi people!! Im screwed!!! I just turn on my pc and I ve got a message saying that the system failed to mount it and Ive got a temporary root where I cannot edit anything because it is readonly... what can i do??
[19:36] <Noorideen> ikonia, do you mind if i pm? need to ask you something please!
[19:36] <ikonia> Noorideen: why do you need to pm me ?
[19:36] <Noorideen> ikonia, i wanna ask you something.
[19:36] <Quest> ikonia,  still i see its files on system. why i sthat
[19:36] <chamunks> guidoPallemans why would i run startx?
[19:36] <meelu> anyone use aria2c?
[19:36] <chamunks> guidoPallemans this is an ssh session
[19:36] <ikonia> Noorideen: ok
[19:37] <ikonia> Quest: what files ?
[19:37] <chamunks> GuidoPallemans_,  this is an ssh session why would i run startx
[19:37] <ikonia> Quest: please be specific rather than saying "I still see files"
[19:37] <GuidoPallemans_> oh sry
[19:37] <Techathy> exit
[19:37] <gartral> diegosnat: did you just finish installing ubuntu?
[19:37] <chamunks> ikonia, its a ppa for something we use for generating google maps style maps for this game server.
[19:37] <Techathy> oops not  terminal windows
[19:38] <ikonia> chamunks: ok, so it's unlikely to cause a conflict, that's good
[19:38] <chamunks> ikonia, yeah it just downloads dependencies for a .py script basically
[19:38] <chamunks> ikonia, ok well i've run an apt-get update a few times during this situation and its going to be spitting the same errors.
[19:38] <chamunks> ikonia, so im not really sure what to do at this point.
[19:39] <diegosnat> hi people!! Im screwed!!! I just turn on my pc and I ve got a message saying that the system failed to mount it and Ive got a temporary root where I cannot edit anything because it is readonly... what can i do??
[19:39] <ikonia> chamunks: ok - look at what you are showing me
[19:39] <chamunks> http://puu.sh/25HU1
[19:39] <chamunks> its saying its out of space but the disks shouldnt be full
[19:40] <ikonia> chamunks: where does it say it's out of space ?
[19:40] <chamunks> I inherited this server from some group of less savy people and im just mainly asking because i need to be much more careful with this thing as the support people at our host are awefully unresponsive.
[19:40] <chamunks> ikonia, tbh im not sure someone else mentioned that was my issue.
[19:41] <chamunks> ikonia, but it does look like you're right about it being a mismatch
[19:41] <ikonia> chamunks: ok - then please be careful what you are saying, no-where in any of those logs does it say "out of space"
[19:41] <ikonia> chamunks: look at what it's actually saying
[19:41] <chamunks> ikonia, it was a problem the last time though so im quite nervous about having that happen again.
[19:41] <ikonia> chamunks: you've asked to purchae linux-image-3.2.0-33-generic
[19:41] <ikonia> purge even
[19:42] <chamunks> ikonia, i figured that was the oldest one
[19:42] <ClientAlive> why isn't Hiren's recognizing my usb stick so I can save stuff to it?
[19:42] <ikonia> chamunks: it's saying the package linux-image-generic (and headers_ depends on 3.2.0.36.43 - but it's actually trying to instal 3.2.0.38.46, which is your miss-match
[19:42] <rcmaehl> I need help with a Broadcom B4321 802.11a/b/g/n card. It shows up as eth1, an ethernet device instead of a wireless device, and gives an error of "nl80211 not found." with things like iw and wireless network related things. It is also unable to connect to ad-hoc networks as the network list grays them out when it detects them. I am running Ubuntu 12.10 64-bit. Will pastebin addtional information as needed. I have searched google to n
[19:43] <Jordan_U> ClientAlive: Hiren's is not Ubuntu, try asking in their support channel or boot from an Ubuntu LiveCD/USB instead to copy your files.
[19:43] <chamunks> ikonia, im sorry this seems like it should be so obvious to me what the issue is here :S
[19:43] <chamunks> ikonia, and how to fix this but its my first time running into this issue so im really confused
[19:43] <ikonia> chamunks: do you see what I'm actually saying/referencing in your pastebins
[19:44] <chamunks> yeah im looking at the console on the left here
[19:44] <ClientAlive> Jordan_U: do you know if they have a support channel? Someone here talked to me about Hiren's earlier today is all.
[19:44] <chamunks> so its trying to update past the dependency?
[19:44] <ikonia> chamunks: right, so "normally" this situation is cause by your local package cache being out of date
[19:44] <chamunks> yeah
[19:44] <ikonia> chamunks: eg: your local cache things 3.2.0.36.43 is "current" but when it goes to the net, it's actually a later version
[19:44] <chamunks> but since I just updated that
[19:44] <ikonia> chamunks: thats why I asked you to do an update
[19:45] <chamunks> it should know this info already?
[19:45] <ikonia> chamunks: just so you know you're on clean ground
[19:45] <ikonia> chamunks: the first thing I would do is remove your apt cache, and re-fetch it, to make sure it is up to date
[19:45] <Jordan_U> ClientAlive: I have no idea.
[19:45] <ClientAlive> Jordan_U: Well there ya' have it then
[19:46] <rcmaehl> The card does however connect to the internet and wifi, however if it is turned off via the networking menu in the system tray, I am unable to turn it back on. The card worked fine as far as I can remember on 12.04 when I had it installed, however I have had nothing but problems with this card since I upgraded to 12.10. I do not wish to downgrade to 12.04 however.
[19:46] <chamunks> ikonia, so i just ran apt-get clean
[19:46] <chamunks> ikonia, it didnt give me any output but it seems to have accepted the command
[19:46] <ikonia> chamunks: that's one thing, however I'd also consider /var/apt/cache (may want to check that directory, I'm working from memory)
[19:47] <gartral> hey all, I just got done transferring a few photos from my phone to my laptop with bluetooth, where does ubuntu 12.10 *put* those files? I can't find them anywhere
[19:47] <chamunks> ikonia, ok i will earlier i tried apt-get autoclean too before all of this
[19:47] <chamunks> but i'll look into it sec
[19:47] <rcmaehl> gartral: should be your documents
[19:48] <efes> hello :) I can't handle with apt-get. There's a kind of unsatisfied dependency. Don't know why and how to resolve it. -f switch does nothing. Log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1692183/ Thanks in advance :)
[19:48] <Quest> ikonia,  for example /usr/share/tomcat7/lib/tomcat-dbcp.jar
[19:48] <ikonia> Quest: is that provided by the tomcat package ?
[19:48] <chamunks> ikonia, http://puu.sh/25Iai theres a few things in /var/cache/apt but /var/apt/cache doesnt exist so im assuming its this location instead
[19:49] <rcmaehl> I can install ssh and teamviewer access or any other access that is needed to fix the issue with the broadcom card on the system with the issue. This issue was first noticable after installing updates once 12.10 finished installing as I lacked internet access during the install of 12.10 on the system.
[19:49] <ikonia> chamunks: looks good, keep in mind I'm working from memory, so you'll need to check my workings
[19:49] <gartral> rcmaehl: they'renot
[19:49] <ikonia> chamunks: clear that cache out
[19:49] <bean__> efes: it looks like your database server is partially removed or something?
[19:49] <chamunks> ikonia, thats fine I just want to keep you fully up to date sometimes I screw wierd things up.
[19:49] <chamunks> ikonia, so just delete the contents inside /var/cache/apt?
[19:49] <ikonia> chamunks: yeah
[19:49] <Quest> ikonia,  yes
[19:49] <Jonathan_R> i have an exopc tablet and read about ubuntu for tablets. i currently am running opensuse but cant get multitouch to work. how would this be accomplished in ubuntu
[19:49] <chamunks> ikonia, rm *
[19:49] <ikonia> chamunks: you really shouldn't need to, but it's worth checking
[19:50] <chamunks> ikonia, it looks like that ran a bit more cleanly than usual
[19:50] <ikonia> chamunks: it's just re-building that cache
[19:50] <bean__> !tablet | Jonathan_R
[19:50] <chamunks> ikonia, http://puu.sh/25If3
[19:51] <ikonia> chamunks: ok, now do an apt-cache search linux-image
[19:51] <ikonia> chamunks: or whatever your package was
[19:52] <chamunks> ikonia, http://puu.sh/25Iha I should likely specify more information?
[19:52] <ikonia> chamunks: that pastebin doesn't work
[19:53] <chamunks> ikonia, doesnt work? meaning its not loading for you?
[19:53] <talsamon> gartral, default is /home/username/.Public
[19:53] <ikonia> chamunks: correct
[19:53] <chamunks> its just an app i downloaded for my computer I highlight some text then press ctrl+shift+5 and it pastes
[19:53] <Jonathan_R> bean__, i did come for support but didnt know about #ubuntu-tablet
[19:53] <hamstermar> hi  over ubuntu terminal i dont have those the same coloring mode like i use to have on linux mint so any help
[19:53] <chamunks> ikonia,  it loaded fine for me it gets stuck sometimes try refreshing.
[19:53] <efes> bean__: Have no idea how. Any ideas to solve it or get some debug info to find out how to fix it ?
[19:53] <gartral> talsamon: ahhah! thank you!
[19:54] <bean__> efes: does the database contain stuff you need to keep?
[19:54] <chamunks> ikonia, if not i have no problem switching
[19:54] <hamstermar> hi  over ubuntu terminal i dont have those the same coloring mode like i use to have on linux mint so any help  ???
[19:54] <chamunks> its just slower
[19:54] <bean__> !patience | hamstermar
[19:54] <efes> bean__: not at all.
[19:54] <Jonathan_R> bean__, just dont want to change distros if i cant get it to work
[19:54] <hamstermar> ok
[19:54] <bean__> efes: i'd "apt-get remove --purge postgresql*"
[19:54] <bean__> Jonathan_R: it's not likely that anyone here will be able to help
[19:54] <r_a_f> hamstermar: colors are not important
[19:55] <Jonathan_R> fair enough bean__
[19:55] <hamstermar> r_a_f i now yeaah but it's  just....
[19:55] <bean__> Jonathan_R: most people's questions here are "how do i unbreak this dumb thing I just did"
[19:55] <Jonathan_R> aint that the truth
[19:56] <Jonathan_R> i used to work on the plasma active project
[19:56] <bean__> hamstermar: you'd likely have to find whatever defines those on mint, and copy them over.
[19:59] <gartral> bean__: "unbreak"?
[19:59] <bean__> gartral: see also: "fix"
[19:59] <nightmare365> hi thinking of installing catalyst fglrx  is this advisable
[20:00] <nightmare365> im running on 12.10
[20:00] <ikonia> nightmare365: depends on many things
[20:01] <Quest> by what package does apache httpd server exists in ubuntu?
[20:02] <nightmare365> well id say i think this would improve my power usage ..im runing on  ATI RS880M [Mobility Radeon HD 4200 Series]
[20:02] <X_x> cant access my Win8 partition. it claims windows is hibernated. i have disabled quickboot in win8, tried the mount read only otion, tried mount delete hiberfile option to no avail. any one with win8 who has knowledge of this problem?
[20:02] <bean__> Quest: apache2.2?
[20:02] <ikonia> nightmare365: then do it
[20:02] <nightmare365> will this break alot of things if i have fglrx?
[20:02] <Quest> bean__,  yes i think. the latest ?
[20:02] <ikonia> nightmare365: it depends on many things as I said earlier
[20:02] <Quest> bean__,  whats the name?
[20:02] <bean__> Quest: as in that is the name
[20:03] <bean__> Quest: sudo apt-get install apache2
[20:03] <Quest> bean__,  isnt it apache2
[20:03] <Quest> ok
[20:03] <X_x> mobility radeon 4200 is legacy and doent work with latest drivers on latest ubuntu
[20:03] <ankr> Hey people, I'm trying to install elasticsearch, so I created the file; /etc/init.d/elasticsearch (with some content). I also made the file executeable. But when I try to run >>$ update-rc.d elasticsearch defaults<< I get an error
[20:03] <Quest> bean,  it will have php support built in?
[20:03] <ankr> insserv: script elasticsearch is not an executable regular file, skipped!
[20:03] <chamunks> ikonia, I see a whole pile of stuff here and im thinking I should just try to apt-get -f install again
[20:03] <cjurk> does anyone know how to prevent ubuntu from spinning down a usb hdd?
[20:03] <bean__> ankr: chmod +x /etc/init.d/elasticsearch
[20:03] <bean__> ankr: then rerun your command
[20:03] <ikonia> chamunks: ok
[20:04] <chamunks> ikonia, im not really sure what the next step is.
[20:04] <ankr> bean__, I already did that twice. as root.
[20:04] <chamunks> seems that the same error came up again.
[20:04] <nightmare365> ok .. X_x: and ikonia .. is there then a way to improve power usage.. open to suggestion's
[20:04] <chamunks> ikonia, it looks like theres a bunch of wierd apt repositories from secureserver
[20:04] <bean__> ankr: then what is the output of "ls -la /etc/init.d/elasticsearch"
[20:04] <chamunks> ikonia, could it likely be a problem with secureserver (i'm guessing thats their own independant repo's
[20:04] <nullby7e> does nouveau package is updated?
[20:05] <ikonia> chamunks: worth checking
[20:05] <ikonia> nightmare365: it does get updated
[20:05] <ankr> bean__, -rw-r--r--
[20:05] <bean__> ankr: then you didn
[20:05] <bean__> 't +x it
[20:06] <nightmare365> ikonia: i don't get
[20:06] <ikonia> nightmare365: you don't get what ?
[20:07] <ankr> bean__, http://pastebin.com/YFKnb47p
[20:07] <heywood> frustrated with Precise's updates -- lately, every time i reboot, the inbound ssh config gets screwed up. just rebooted, two new problems: password auth works even though i'd disabled it previously, and rsa-based key auth seems to fail. can anyone help me debug please?
 nightmare365: it does get updated
[20:07] <bean__> ankr: +x not -x
[20:07] <chamunks> ikonia, would there be a ubottu link or something that would get me a clean/fresh sources.list?
[20:07] <ikonia> nightmare365: yes, it does, what's the problem
[20:07] <ankr> oh
[20:07] <ankr> right
[20:07] <ikonia> chamunks: not that I'm aware of
[20:07] <chamunks> ikonia, I know you can use synaptic or something along those lines in the desktop version that allows me to choose the best mirror maybe I can go that route.
[20:07] <ankr> bean__, thanks alot..
[20:07] <bean__> chamunks: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[20:08] <bean__> ankr: np
[20:08] <ikonia> chamunks: just point at mirrors.ubuntu.com I think that's load balanced out,
[20:08] <ikonia> chamunks: again, may want to check that
[20:08] <chamunks> ikonia, awesome that could work also and thanks bean__ I'll look at that as well
[20:08] <bean__> ikonia: my link ^^ works decently well
[20:08] <nightmare365> i think my gpu is the main reason ..for my power issues ..since i think ubuntu drains my laptop faster nowadays
[20:08] <packetfrog> Is there a list of extra repo's somewhere i can just copy/paste ?
[20:08] <ikonia> bean__: I'm sure, it wasn't a comment against yours
[20:08] <bean__> i know
[20:08] <bean__> :)
[20:08] <chamunks> now I'm not 100% sure where exactly this host is located is there an easy way to figure that out? like a tracert or something?
[20:09] <chamunks> then a geoip lookup
[20:09] <nightmare365> tried jupiter and its kinda aait
[20:09] <chamunks> i believe its in NZ but im not 100%
[20:09] <bean__> chamunks: yeah you could geoip lookup
[20:09] <bean__> chamunks: if you "curl ifconfig.me/ip" you'll get your IP
[20:10] <chamunks> bean__, curl: (6) couldn't resolve host 'ifconfig.met'
[20:10] <bean__> chamunks: reread what i said
[20:10] <bean__> chamunks: typo
[20:11] <chamunks> bean__, its cool I just resolved it via the domain name
[20:11] <packetfrog> I am trying to find a current list of ubuntu repo's for other software so I can download anything that catchs my eye today and be able to play with it all while offline at home. anyone know of a large list of current repos aside from what is preconfigured?
[20:11] <chamunks> bean__, beautiful :)
[20:12] <packetfrog> :/
[20:12] <lunitik> packetfrog: There really isn't a list somewhere, if you find something that isn't in the repos already just search <projectname> PPA on Google and chances are there is one with packages of that app
[20:13] <packetfrog> lunitik Thanks. Worth a shot right? :)
[20:13] <Fishscene> Greetings. I'm trying to boot Ubuntu 12.10 off of a CD/DVD, but the image is 800MB. It's too big to fit on a CD and when I burn it to a DVD, the computer says it failed to boot from the CD drive. Any ideas?
[20:13] <lunitik> packetfrog: It is just so rare something that runs on Linux isn't in the repos by default
[20:13] <packetfrog> fishscene: use a usb stick?
[20:13] <Fishscene> packetfrog: I don't have one available :(
[20:13] <chamunks> bean__, that repogen.simplylinux.ch is actaully pretty nice I like that.
[20:14] <bean__> yeah
[20:14] <X_x> does any one have experience with dual booting win8 and ubuntu?
[20:14] <packetfrog> lunitik bumblebee :/ that was how I learned how to add sources :)
[20:14] <lunitik> X_x: are you seeing any particular issues?
[20:14] <untermen1> I have strange problem, when I changed my user account password, it's impossible to log in to my desktop under X.
[20:14] <packetfrog> fishscene There is a way to make a bootable partition and push the ISO onto it      Anyone able to help with that?
[20:14] <X_x> yes; and unfortunately every one is "answering" my question without actually having used win8. the answers dont work
[20:15] <Fishscene> packetfrog: I can't modify the hard drive. My mission is to grab the data off the hard drive.
[20:15] <packetfrog> X_x Not that this is helpful  but atleast just dualboot win7/linux   win8 is horrid :/
[20:15] <lunitik> X_x: I was more trying to get you to list your current issues, what you've given isn't very helpful for assisting you yet.
[20:15] <packetfrog> fishscene why?
[20:16] <lunitik> Fishscene: any Live system will work, just have to mount the drive the files are stored at once it's up.
[20:16] <Fishscene> packetfrog: Windows 7 on one of my laptops decided to NOT respond to any keyboard or mouse input. Even external. The keyboard works fine as I can use it in the BIOS without issue. But I can't even log in to see what is going on.
[20:17] <X_x> im looking for some one who has actually figured out how to access a win8 partition. not just some forum post by some one who thought they knew the answer
[20:17] <chamunks> ikonia, bean__ well poop this is frustrating even with a whole new repo list its still giving me the same issues.
[20:17] <packetfrog> X_x have you tried #windows ?
[20:17] <X_x> windows will direct me here. its not their issue
[20:17] <lunitik> X_x: I do not think your attitude will yield positive results.
[20:18] <Fishscene> lunitik: True. It's just nicer with Ubuntu since it's well-documented and I know what I'm doing on it. It seems the only answer here is to use a USB device. =\  I'm going to have a fun time negotiating that with my manager
[20:18] <pimath> hey, is there an alternative to apt-get and the software center?
[20:18] <packetfrog> X_x reword your question, ask them how to access partitions  not dualboot linux...
[20:18] <ikonia> chamunks: go back to what I said
[20:18] <ikonia> chamunks: check what version of the package you see in the repo
[20:18] <X_x> im just trying to find some one with actual operational knowledge. i understand it could take a while
[20:18] <ikonia> chamunks: confirm that it does conflict, then we can work it forward
[20:18] <Fishscene> Actually. to heck with corporate policy, I'm buying a usb stick anyway. TTYL folks!
[20:18] <packetfrog> fishscene usb stick is like 2 bucks...
[20:18] <ericmcray> hi guys. im new here. this is just support channel or can we talk anything about ubuntu?
[20:19] <ikonia> ericmcray: support channel
[20:19] <chamunks> ikonia, with apt-cache search linux-image
[20:19] <X_x> ericab,  #ubuntu-offtopic for general chatter
[20:19] <ikonia> chamunks: or whatever the package name is
[20:19] <ericmcray> thx
[20:19] <lunitik> ericab: #ubuntu-discuss for Ubuntu talk, #ubuntu-offtopic for random chat
[20:19] <chamunks> ikonia, the one that is spitting the errors?
[20:19] <ikonia> chamunks: well yes, the one that's cauinsg the error, not erroring on
[20:20] <chamunks> ikonia, http://puu.sh/25Jbg so linux-generic or linux-image-generic
[20:21] <ikonia> chamunks: come on - you need to think a bit, not just keep pastbinning for me to work out it, these are your servers
[20:21] <ikonia> chamunks: linux-image-generic is the one that's complaining
[20:21] <ikonia> chamunks: so verifying that, and then verifying what linux-image is expecting/depending on seems the way forward
[20:21] <chamunks> ikonia, i am im just double checking my understanding I dont mean to come off as im not thinking about this at all.
[20:22] <chamunks> I just cant afford to break things my apologies
[20:22] <ikonia> chamunks: you're not checking, you'r asking me
[20:26] <vyrgozunqk> hey guys i installed kernel 3.7 with all headers and etc
[20:26] <vyrgozunqk> but dkms fails to compile fglrx
[20:26] <vyrgozunqk> i don't have any other 3rd party drivers so i dont know if its dkms problem or fglrx
[20:26] <chamunks> ikonia, im just not sure what to do to fix this at all I feel silly about this like can i just force a downgrade or something?
[20:26] <vyrgozunqk> but as i know fglrx 13.2beta 6 supports 3.7
[20:27] <chamunks> ikonia, i feel like im missing something crucial here but it could be my lack of confidance with this situation im in.
[20:27] <ikonia> chamunks: no,
[20:27] <ikonia> chamunks: basically work out the conflicting package, remove it or upgrade it out side the needs of the metapackage
[20:30] <chamunks> that sounds easy but I dont know how to do that.
[20:30] <chamunks> so searching apt-cache  Iget a huge list of things from searching linux-image-generic
[20:30] <X_x> ha! even #windows had no idea how to access a win8 partition
[20:31] <ikonia> chamunks: you don't care about the huge list....you care about the package
[20:31] <chamunks> I need to see if it has the version that linux-generic wants yes
[20:31] <chamunks> im sorry i just dont get it
[20:32] <chamunks> i'm clearly retarded or something
[20:32] <ikonia> chamunks: no, you just shouldn't be running a server for a business
[20:33] <chamunks> ikonia, im just not ready for it i suppose I generally need to be run through something first but it appears im the most capable of dealing with these issues out of the whole group
[20:36] <chamunks> ikonia, im gonna go get a coffee and just take a break from this since I'm clearly getting too frustrated to see this problem clearly.
[20:39] <Lynxx> Hello, is there any way to change the scrollbar color/contrast on Gnome Shell? (ubuntu 12.10) - I have already tried Gnome Color Chooser, did not work. The scrollbar is too bright.
[20:39] <Guest76902> Hello all :) Does anyone know the package name I need if I want to use chattr? It's not available on my VPS.
[20:40] <ikonia> Guest76902: it's in the e2fsprogs
[20:40] <Quest> I have just installed apache2 , but i cannot run php files. do i need to install anything else?
[20:41] <ikonia> Quest: yes, php
[20:41] <Guest76902> ikonia: thanks
[20:41] <Quest> ikonia,  by what package?
[20:42] <ikonia> Quest: ......php
[20:43] <Quest> ikonia,  just to make sure. its package "php5"
[20:43] <ikonia> no
[20:43] <ikonia> Quest: you'll need php and the apache php modul
[20:43] <ania__> you have being watched
[20:43] <ikonia> Quest: open the package manager and search
[20:43] <ikonia> ania__: what ?
[20:43] <Quest> ikonia,  its php5 showing
[20:43] <Quest> ikonia,  what module do i need in apache?
[20:43] <^DEMOSS^> anybody can help me with information for specialist, whose can help me restore my raid 5 on mdadm ? http://pastebin.com/4wDZTKbq  \  http://pastebin.com/nrfnLF1L  \\  http://pastebin.com/TY0SJvzj
[20:43] <ikonia> Quest: I don't believe that is the apache module, but try it
[20:44] <ikonia> ^DEMOSS^: what happened ?
[20:44] <Quest> ikonia,  i gues php5 is the package name for installing php
[20:44] <Quest> ikonia,  i dont know what module do i need for apache though
[20:44] <ikonia> Quest: yes, but not the apache module
[20:44] <ikonia> (try it)
[20:44] <Quest> ikonia,  ok
[20:45] <Zakkai_>  a bit longer. be back shortly
[20:47] <^DEMOSS^> ikonia: NAS device die and i attached all disks in my normal server unit with ubuntu
[20:47] <Quest> i just installed php5 and apache2 in ubuntu.    .html works fine. but .php says   The website encountered an error while retrieving http://alpinema.com/index.php. It may be down for maintenance or configured incorrectly.
[20:47] <ikonia> ^DEMOSS^: is the nas device using mdadm ?
[20:47] <^DEMOSS^> Quest: use debian squeeze ^)
[20:48] <^DEMOSS^> yes use mdadm
[20:48] <Quest> ^DEMOSS^,  what?
[20:48] <ikonia> Quest: ignore him
[20:48] <Quest> ok
[20:48] <ikonia> Quest: build a simple test php file
[20:48] <ikonia> Quest: put it in your web root
[20:48] <Quest> already have
[20:48] <ikonia> Quest: open it in a browser.
[20:49] <Quest> i put that in in the dir where index.html is.      (which works fine) but index.php dont
[20:49] <ikonia> Quest: what happens when you try to visit the php page
[20:49] <Quest> .php says   The website encountered an error while retrieving http://alpinema.com/index.php. It may be down for maintenance or configured incorrectly.
[20:49] <ikonia> Quest: I don't get that, I get a blank page
[20:50] <ikonia> Quest: is it just doing a "php_info();" or more than that ?
[20:50] <erupter> hi guys. I must have uninstalled some default font. I searched on the internet but I could not find a list of fonts for precise. is anyone able to help me?
[20:50] <Quest> ikonia,  ok
[20:51] <Quest> ikonia,  just echoing
[20:51] <Quest> ikonia,  now i will just put <?php php_info() ?>
[20:51] <^DEMOSS^> ikonia: if you see some pate you can see, than mdadm show more info about raid
[20:51] <ikonia> ^DEMOSS^: sorry - I don't want to help you
[20:51] <ikonia> Quest: call it something other than index.php - test.php or something like that
[20:52] <Quest> ok
[20:52] <^DEMOSS^> ikonia: oh, it is be just some interest what's happend with device ?
[20:53] <Quest> ikonia,  same resutls
[20:53] <ikonia> Quest: ok - 1.) that maintained error is your http server, not php
[20:53] <ikonia> Quest: your middle ware (tomcat I guess) server is down
[20:53] <Quest> ikonia,  tomcat is on port 8080
[20:54] <ikonia> Quest: yes, which is why your website is not displaying
[20:54] <Quest> ikonia,  tomcat is up on 8080
[20:54] <Quest> ikonia,  really? let me shut it down
[20:54] <ikonia> Quest: it's forwarding requests to 8080 for content
[20:54] <ikonia> and 8080 is down, hence why you have the mainteance message
[20:54] <ikonia> Quest: that's seperate to php though
[20:54] <SonikkuAmerica> Hey everyone! Quick question about migrating Wubi installs... (I know it's a community thing but...) If I specify a partition to run the wubi-move.sh script on, does it fill that partition or do I need to have specified the amount of space on the Wubi install itself?
[20:54] <cowbud> I am trying to set up a2dp with a bluetooth device hooked up to my quantal installation. sdptool search --bdaddr local a2snk show an active Audio sink but pactl list short sinks does not show a bluez_source at all
[20:55] <SonikkuAmerica> *destination partition that is
[20:55] <Quest> ikonia,  nop. tomcat is down. problem is there
[20:55] <Quest> ikonia,  where are the error logs for apache?
[20:56] <battlefield3> someone could help me with a team fortreess 2 problem
[20:56] <obert> Quest: in apache
[20:56] <ikonia> Quest: normally /var/log
[20:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> what package has the ms corefonts? precisex64
[20:56] <ikonia> Quest: I'm concerned you're setting up web infrastructures, yet you don't seem to know the basics of your own infrastructure
[20:57] <Quest> ikonia,  i am new yes.
[20:57] <Quest> ikonia,  this is the first time
[20:57] <ikonia> Quest: I'd suggest reading https://help.ubuntu.com on the server documentation about running a webserver
[20:57] <ikonia> Quest: you're running before walking
[20:57] <battlefield3> someone could help me with a team fortreess 2 problem
[20:57] <michael1> whats up battlefield3
[20:57] <Quest> ikonia,  i asked because they are not at the usualy place /usr/local/apache2/logs/error_log
[20:58] <ikonia> michael1: can you please try to ask questions that make sense please.
[20:58] <ikonia> Quest: that is not the usual place
[20:58] <battlefield3> michael1,
[20:58] <ikonia> Quest: please read the link I gave you and learn the basics of setting up a web server, before moving forward
[20:58] <Genscher_> he, there should be a nice way to configure wlan for ubuntu server, configuring WPA2 + wlan usb stick is not nice ;)
[20:58] <battlefield3> i downloaded TF2
[20:58] <battlefield3> but dont show video
[20:58] <battlefield3> only sound
[20:59] <michael1> do you have an ati or nvidia card?
[20:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> SonikkuAmerica: nice nick, lol
[20:59] <Quest> ikonia,  Call to undefined function php_info()
[20:59] <TuxFighter> Hi, I got problems get my wlan0 adapter running
[20:59] <packetfrog> W: TMPDIR is mounted noexec, will not cache run scripts.   is this messing me up or just letting me know?
[21:00] <ikonia> Quest: .....please learn the basics of setting up a web server before continuing forward
[21:00] <TuxFighter> anyone can help me with that rtl8187(l)
[21:00] <ikonia> Quest: it's phpinfo(); not php_info();
[21:00] <battlefield3> michael1, i have a HP
[21:00] <battlefield3> g-42-270 la
[21:00] <Quest> ikonia,  <ikonia> Quest: is it just doing a "php_info();" or more than that ?
[21:01] <Quest> ikonia,  nevermind
[21:01] <battlefield3> michael1
[21:03] <Bray90820> can someone dissect a boot flag for me
[21:03] <Bray90820> http://pastebin.com/zkJa60qj
[21:03] <Bray90820> part of that flag is to turn ACPI off and the other part relates to the touch screen
[21:04] <Bray90820> i wanna know what part is the touch screen only
[21:05] <NexusGuy> Can somoene help me
[21:05] <NexusGuy> With Ubuntu on Nexus 7?
[21:05] <tgm4883> !tablet | NexusGuy
[21:06] <NexusGuy> Ah ok thanks tgm.
[21:06] <llutz> Bray90820: its a typo? "noapic" not noacpi
[21:06] <Bray90820> NexusGuy tomorrow conical is releasing a touch opmnized version of ubuntu for tablets
[21:07] <heidelfuchs> too late ^^
[21:07] <Lynxx> Hello, is there any way to change the scrollbar color/contrast on Gnome Shell? (ubuntu 12.10) - I have already tried Gnome Color Chooser, did not work. The scrollbar is too bright.
[21:07] <Bray90820> that's the boot flag i used and it seemd to work to fix my touch screen and turn acpi off
[21:07] <Bray90820> but i want just the touch screen part
[21:09] <llutz> Bray90820: "noacpi" is not a valid kernel parameter
[21:11] <Bray90820> llutz well then why did it work to fix my charging bug
[21:11] <llutz> Bray90820: i guess it didn't. its just ignored
[21:12] <elusaith> Hi, is here a xubuntu user? :)
[21:12] <llutz> Bray90820: acpi=off did
[21:12] <Bray90820> llutz i appended it to /etc/default/grub
[21:12] <^DEMOSS^> ikonia: are you a woman ?
[21:13] <auronandace> ^DEMOSS^: why is that relevant to ubuntu support?
[21:13] <llutz> Bray90820:and?  "noacpi" still is not a valid kernel parameter and does nothing (in the best)
[21:13] <cowbud> god bluetooth is a mess on Linux
[21:13] <ikonia> ^DEMOSS^: what does that matter ?
[21:13] <Bray90820> llutz can you pastebin the flag with just the touch screen part in there
[21:14] <heidelfuchs> shouldnt it even through an exception? llutz?
[21:14] <heidelfuchs> throw*
[21:14] <llutz> Bray90820: i can't but i'd guess it's "usbhid.quirks ...."
[21:14] <d1mAs1q> hi all, please help me! i have MSI FM2-A75MA-E35 motherboard and lubuntu installed, and i don't have sound, maybe who knows why?) Sorry for bad English i'm from Russia :)
[21:14] <llutz> heidelfuchs: i'm not sure, some are just ignored
[21:15] <erupter> does anyone know the default list of fonts for ubuntu precise? I have some apps showing badly after I removed a few packages
[21:15] <Bray90820> alright
[21:15] <Bray90820> llutz thanks for your help anyways
[21:15] <heidelfuchs> im sure google knows by heart
[21:16] <heidelfuchs> maybe you removed some antialiasing stuff
[21:16] <tobis> Hi
[21:16] <heidelfuchs> did you remove ubuntu-desktop?
[21:16] <^DEMOSS^> anybody can help me restore info on my raid5 mdadm ( NAS server is die )  this is info how i can collect about raid http://pastebin.com/4wDZTKbq  \  http://pastebin.com/nrfnLF1L  \\  http://pastebin.com/TY0SJvzj   there is all that i have
[21:17] <heidelfuchs> btw default font is, surprise, ubuntu/11pt erupter
[21:17] <tobis> I'm looking for some help about installing Zend-Framework on an 12.04 server
[21:17] <^DEMOSS^> all disk i attached on unit normal server with ubuntu 12.04
[21:17] <jamiejackson> hi folks, i need to be able to send emails to myself from my applications under development. is there a simple "mail server' to handle smpt for local requests?
[21:17] <erupter> heidelfuchs,  i can't find any package by that name
[21:17] <llutz> !info ssmtp | jamiejackson
[21:18] <erupter> heidelfuchs, besides I think there is a range of fonts coming by default, not just one
[21:18] <sh3llc0d3r> hello
[21:18] <packetfrog> Hello.
[21:18] <erupter> heidelfuchs, otherwise ALL apps would appear wrong, not just one or two
[21:18] <jamiejackson> thx, llutz. reading.
[21:18] <heidelfuchs> what kind of apps look crappy? qt? gtk? erupter
[21:19] <erupter> heidelfuchs, netbeans
[21:19] <Guest76902> #ubuntu
[21:19] <sh3llc0d3r> gtk isn't nice
[21:20] <sh3llc0d3r> what do you think?
[21:20] <heidelfuchs> erupter:  its a java problem. you'll find a solution todo here:
[21:20] <heidelfuchs> http://askubuntu.com/questions/32624/ugly-fonts-in-netbeans-how-can-i-make-it-use-the-system-font
[21:20] <erupter> heidelfuchs, no, read it. was fine before i removed some package and then did an apt-get autoremove (shame on me)
[21:21] <erupter> netbeans 7.2.1 is fine on precise, doesn't have that problem. heidelfuchs
[21:21] <heidelfuchs> sorry then :/
[21:22] <jpmh> under earlier ubuntu I coild do gnome-session-save and end the session at the shell.  It has gone now, there is a gone-sessions-quit but it generates: "failed to call logout"  - how do I end the session from the shell?
[21:23] <heidelfuchs> withinthe coments people had that issue with 12.10 as well though
[21:23] <owen__> Hello all :) I'm running Ubutnu 12.04 LTS on a VPS. I'm having diffuculties trying to change the dns nameservers. Apparently I am supposed to add the dns servers in the /etc/network/interfaces.tail file. Upon restart I see the changes but my prefered dns are not being used. I though with Ubuntu 12.04 that this was the correct way to do it. Changes made to /etc/network/interfaces.tail will propogate to /etc/resolv.conf.
[21:24] <jpds> owen__: No.
[21:24] <jpds> owen__: You have to add a 'dns-nameservers x.x.x.x' line to /etc/network/interfaces
[21:24] <llutz> owen__: either you add "dns-namservers 1.2.3.4" to /etc/network/interfaces or "nameserver 1.2.3.4" to /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/tail
[21:25] <owen__> Apparently I am not allowed to make changes directly to the /etc/network/interfaces file, I am warned that changes will be overwritten.
[21:26] <Demestor> Today i read about the upcoming Ubuntu for ARM tablet devices  .. when can we expect thr release?
[21:26] <llutz> owen__: who warns you? interfaces file is the file to change
[21:26] <owen__> OK I'll give it a try.
[21:27] <bean__> !tablet | Demestor
[21:28] <Demestor> thx for the hint
[21:29] <mint> hi :)
[21:29] <tobis> I'm looking for some help about installing Zend-Framework on an 12.04 server, if anybody available
[21:32] <owen__> llutz: What is weir is that any changes I make are not changing the /etc/resolv.conf file. When I change it directly and lock it with chattr. After restarting, I cannot connect to the internet using my open dns ip's.
[21:33] <llutz> owen__: add "dns-namservers 1.2.3.4 5.6.7.8" (<- the opendns-IPs)  to /etc/network/interfaces  and forget that stupid chattr on resolv.conf
[21:33] <bean__> tobis: apt-get install zend-framework?
[21:34] <llutz> owen__: immunitating that file is a dirty hack and nonsense.
[21:35] <llutz> owen__: if you haven't configured your network using the /etc/network/interfaces file, you add the nameserver entries to /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/tail  (or head, ignore the warning)
[21:36] <BluesKaj> owen__, /etc/resolv.conf is overwritten by /etc/resolvconf.d/resolv.conf , ignore the warning and add your dns/nameserver settings to the file .
[21:37] <BluesKaj> owen__, /etc/resolvconf.d/resolv.conf/head is the actual text file you edit
[21:38] <owen__>  BluesKaj: That is what I thought too. I'm suspicious that my VPS provider has done some hack to prevent any changes to the /etc/resolv.conf file
[21:38] <bean__> owen__: its not a hack, its how the resolvconf package works
[21:39] <t_pol> #ubuntu-fr
[21:40] <BluesKaj> owen__, correction , /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
[21:41] <BluesKaj> owen__, sorry about the confusion
[21:42] <ajisha> list
[21:42] <tgm4883> BluesKaj, doesn't he actually want base?
[21:42] <llutz> always depends if you want your entries first or not
[21:42] <BluesKaj> tgm4883, dunno what you mean
[21:43] <tgm4883> BluesKaj, technically head and tail would work too, but base seems the more appropriate place to put it
[21:43] <tgm4883> BluesKaj, /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base
[21:43] <owen__> llutz: Every time I add my preffered dns servers to the /etc/network/interfaces file, they get overwritten on reboot!
[21:44] <tgm4883> owen__, is this a server? Do you have network-manager installed?
[21:44] <BluesKaj> tgm4883, ok , all references and fixes I've seen to resolv.conf are using the head file
[21:44] <DelusionalLogic> Since the touch preview is in two days, is there a way to get a list of (going to be) supported devices?
[21:44] <owen__> llutz: This is a VPS server, so command line only.
[21:44] <DelusionalLogic> I saw the announcement as spotted that the GNex wasn't on there
[21:44] <tgm4883> BluesKaj, yes, that is because people don't know what they are doing, so they see a file that has the same text in it as the resolv.conf file and just put it there
[21:45] <BluesKaj> tgm4883, if NM ios isnstalled it will over write the resolv.conf
[21:45] <llutz> owen__: what is the resolv.conf entry after reboot?
[21:45] <tgm4883> BluesKaj, 'man resolvconf'
[21:45] <tgm4883> BluesKaj, yes, which is what he said was happening (hence why I asked if it was installed)
[21:46] <BluesKaj> tgm frankly i don't care because , it works here , I'm not going to argue with success
[21:46] <owen__> llutz: There are no dns-nameservers present after reboot.
[21:46] <tgm4883> BluesKaj, or rather, he said it's overwriting /etc/network/interfaces
[21:46] <tgm4883> BluesKaj, I'm not saying it wont work, I'm  just saying its the wrong way to do it
[21:46] <BluesKaj> ok tgm4883 , go ahead and create confusion ...have fun
[21:47] <tgm4883> BluesKaj, WTF are you talking about?
[21:47] <tgm4883> BluesKaj, what confusion?
[21:47] <ania_> wtf ?? what the frag?
[21:47] <BluesKaj> what's wrong iof it works , that's what I'm talking about , tgm4883 , whether agree or not is immaterial
[21:48] <tgm4883> BluesKaj, I can open a peanut butter jar with a hammer, doesn't mean it's the right way to open it
[21:48] <Quest> what modules do i need to have a proxy for apache2 for tomcat7?
[21:48] <llutz> owen__: pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces please
[21:48] <llutz> !paste | owen__
[21:48] <achandra> tgm4883, unless of course if you are reverse engineering to make it smooth rather than chunky
[21:48] <tgm4883> BluesKaj, further, telling people the proper way to do something (and also saying it will work the way they are doing it), shouldn't cause confusion
[21:48] <BluesKaj> tgm4883, analogies like that are overdone and you know it ..
[21:49] <tozen> hi here
[21:49] <tgm4883> BluesKaj, knowing how something works is completely different than making something.
[21:49] <tgm4883> err, making something work
[21:50] <BluesKaj> ask owen__ if the suggestions I made work for him , tgm4883
[21:50] <tgm4883> BluesKaj, IDK why you even have your panties in a bunch. I was just letting you guys know the right place to put it
[21:50] <tgm4883> geez
[21:50]  * BluesKaj shrugs
[21:52] <TuxFighter> Can someone help me to get my wlan working
[21:52] <owen__> llutz:http://pastie.org/6258604
[21:52] <tgm4883> BluesKaj, I know it works for him. Uninstalling resolvconf and just editing /etc/resolv.conf would work too. That doesn't mean it's the right way to do it. I was just letting you guys know that (while your way might work), that isn't the intended place to put that information
[21:52] <tgm4883> but I'm done with that
[21:52] <BluesKaj> who cares , you're the with the panties in a bind i think , I'm sitting in my easy chair with my feet up
[21:52] <ErvisTusha> hello all
[21:52]  * tgm4883 rolls eyes
[21:52] <ErvisTusha> anyone had experience with Ubuntu 13.04 and Nvidia ?
[21:52] <ikonia> !13.04 | ErvisTusha
[21:52] <llutz> owen__: there is no dns-nameservers line at all, is it also reverted after reboot?
[21:53] <owen__> llutz: yes
[21:53] <jarray52> An Ubuntu One folder suddenly appeared in my home/user directory after a failed update. I was curious what happened? I also get this strange input box in the lower right hand corner.
[21:53] <BluesKaj> tgm4883, then go on the net and tell all those ubuntu bloggers who recommended my suggestion and tell them they are wrong
[21:53] <owen__> llutz: I can get the dns-namservers to stick if I put them in /etc/network/interfaces.tail
[21:54] <llutz> owen__: i never heard of that file... but if it works, use it
[21:54] <tgm4883> owen__, that is where you should put it per the file you pasted
[21:54] <owen__> llutz: But when I restart the changes are not affecting the /etc/resolv.conf file.
[21:54] <llutz> owen__: your vps-provider seem to change a lot of things...
[21:55] <profiler1982_> asus padphone is ideal for tablet & phone os
[21:56] <owen__> llutz: I think they have been messing around with some setting outside of the container. The VPS's are part of the openvz. I think that is what it is called.
[21:56] <llutz> owen__: have you tried to put the entries in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base
[21:56] <Tatuus> if resolution, after playing a game on Wine or ScummVM, does not return to what before playing, type this in terminal: xrandr -s 0 -just if someone else had the same issue ever....
[21:56] <owen__> llutz: There is no resolv.conf.d/ in the /etc/resolvconf/ directory!
[21:57] <llutz> owen__: sudo apt-get install resolvconf
[21:57] <owen__> llutz: I'll give that a try
[21:57] <tgm4883> owen__, what VPS is this?
[21:58] <owen__> tgm4883: switchlink.co.uk
[21:58] <Quest> what do such scripts like a2ensite or a2dissite actually do in the backend? cp from avaiblable to enabled sites? or delete any. or something else?
[21:59] <Quest> like wise a2enmod  for modules
[21:59] <llutz> Quest: they create/remove links
[21:59] <Quest> llutz,  links ? you mean symlinks?
[21:59] <Pici> Quest: they have man pages too ;)
[21:59] <Pici> Quest: and yes, symliks
[21:59] <Quest> Pici,  I thought they cp?
[22:00] <Quest> Pici,  from sites-available to sites-enabled?
[22:00] <Pici> Quest: no. they drop a symlink from /etc/apache2/sites-available/ to /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/
[22:00] <llutz> owen__: expensive vps... :)
[22:01] <Quest> Pici,  i just copyied them by cp command. works ok. did i do anything wrong?
[22:01] <Quest> Pici,  how can i check its a symlink and not a file.   something like    ls -someParameter?
[22:02] <tgm4883> Quest, ls -l would do it
[22:02] <Pici> Quest: it'll have an l in the first column if you use ls -l
[22:02] <Quest> tgm4l883,  that would tell its a symlink?
[22:02] <Quest> oh
[22:02] <owen__> llutz: Think I pay £12 ish per month. Been using them for years. Do you know any cheaper?
[22:02] <Pici> Quest: And a real file there will work just fine too. A symlink will just produce less duplicate data and might be less confusing.
[22:03] <Quest> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   26 Feb 20 20:04 000-default -> ../sites-available/default
[22:03] <tgm4883> Pici, looking at one of my 12.04 servers, it actually does a symlink to ../sites-available/<site>
[22:03] <tgm4883> Pici, so not the full path
[22:03] <llutz> owen__: well, at least here in DE we have cheaper offers with less issues
[22:03] <Quest> i actually edited the 000-default by nano... if thats a symlink. how can i even open it?
[22:03] <Pici> tgm4883: same here.
[22:03] <Geronimo> hi
[22:03] <joshuafcole> I have a weird question. Does anybody know if it's possible to create new files in /sys/ ? Specifically, I'm trying to write a shim script for powertop that does a couple of calculations and dumps the results into the appropriate files under /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0 rather than trying to figure out how to backport upower/powerd/whatever is in charge of keeping track of these things.
[22:03] <Geronimo> I've just downloaded the windows installer for Ubuntu.
[22:03] <owen__> llutz: DE you mean Germany
[22:03] <Quest> Pici, ^ tgm4883  llutz
[22:03] <tgm4883> Quest, because.... that's how they work?
[22:03] <Geronimo> will it partition my machine?
[22:03] <llutz> owen__: yes
[22:04] <Pici> Quest: a symlink actually points to the same file at the filesystem level, its not like a .lnk file in windows.
[22:04] <Quest> tgm4883,  you mean it actually opened the real file. and not the symlink itself?
[22:04] <tgm4883> Quest, yes
[22:04] <joshuafcole> When trying to touch a file I'd like to make, I get a No such file or directory error, which I imagine is because /sys isn't a normal portion of the file system like I'd initially imagined.
[22:04] <owen__> llutz: My primary reason for using them is that they are based in the UK. That means I can proxy the BBC over to where I live in Sweden.
[22:04] <Quest> tgm4883,  hm.
[22:04] <Quest> ok.
[22:05] <Quest> Pici,  tgm4883  llutz  i want to run tomcat7 and apache 2.2 with some proxy at the same time. what do i need. i have tomcate runing and so is apache
[22:05] <VLanX> Hi there, does anyone know how can i disable the "ALT + left click" behavior on 12.04 and 12.10 ?
[22:05] <anew> can i run lubuntu on raspberrypi 512 ?
[22:05] <TuxFighter> I got problems get the RTL8187L WLAN Stick running, anyone have some advice
[22:06] <anew> will i be able to use firefox/programs with no lag? what do u think
[22:06] <llutz> anew: no
[22:06] <anew> shit really
[22:06] <TuxFighter> I am fighting since hours to get internet on this laptop
[22:06] <anew> i thought minimum was 512 for lubuntu
[22:06] <X_x> anew,  it will work but java and flash will definately cause lag
[22:06] <llutz> anew: there is no lubuntu for ARMv6 afaik
[22:07] <tgm4883> anew, no, Ubuntu cannot run on raspberrypi
[22:07] <tgm4883> anew, which includes lubuntu
[22:07] <anew> yes ur right no ubuntu on rpi damnit
[22:07] <llutz> X_x: nonsense
[22:07] <anew> what is a very lightweight alternative
[22:07] <anew> that i can use ?
[22:07] <X_x> there is a debian that will run on arm and you can install xfce
[22:07] <tgm4883> anew, debian
[22:07] <llutz> anew: on rasp? raspbian
[22:07] <anew> raspbian is lighter than xfce ?
[22:08] <llutz> uanme -a ->"Linux rpi 3.6.11+ #371 PREEMPT Thu Feb 7 16:31:35 GMT 2013 armv6l GNU/Linux"
[22:08] <llutz> xfce is just a DE, raspbian a distribution
[22:08] <jhutchins_wk> There is a pi-specific image of debian.
[22:09] <anew> hmm yeah does raspbian have gui tho
[22:09] <llutz> anew: yes, even lxde
[22:09] <anew> ah yes
[22:09] <anew> ok i guess raspbian must be the most optimized thing to use with raspberry pi then
[22:10] <anew> no sense in looking around for other distros
[22:10] <anew> http://home.comcast.net/~michael.p.thompson/rpi/raspbian_mate.png
[22:11] <anew> oh hey looks pretty cool actually
[22:11] <llutz> anew: there are other distros, just no *buntu and so offtopic here
[22:11] <anew> thanks
[22:11] <anew> yeah
[22:11] <FloodBot1> anew: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:11] <joshuafcole> sorry about popping out. I Kernel Panicked for the first time ever. Apparently linux doesn't take kindly to me trying to write new files into /sys/
[22:11] <anew> it went into offtopic, sorry... but i love lubuntu
[22:13] <joshuafcole> Does anybody know if it's possible to create new "files" under /sys/ ? Specifically, I'm trying to write a shim script for powertop that does a couple of calculations and dumps the results into the appropriate placesin /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0 rather than trying to figure out how to backport upower/powerd/whatever is in charge of keeping track of these things.
[22:16] <BluesKaj> tgm4883,  your suggestion about the /etc/resolv.conf/resolv.conf.d/base for nameservers works as well. I think your suggestion is a good one , thanks for the tip.
[22:16] <joshuafcole> Alternatively, does anybody know whether the upkeep of those files is baked into the kernel, or if not, which daemon maintains them?
[22:16] <tgm4883> BluesKaj, yw
[22:16] <Quest> can any one help?
[22:16] <Quest> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14990973/tomcat7-and-apache2-on-ubuntu-in-integration-with-some-sort-of-proxy
[22:16] <Quest> Pici,  llutz  tgm4883  ^
[22:16] <ikonia> Quest: did you read the links I suggested you read ?
[22:16] <Quest> ikonia,  yes
[22:16] <ikonia> Quest: the ones that explain the basic setup of apache on ubuntu ?
[22:17] <ikonia> Quest: ok - so now that you've read them and got apache running fine, what is your question
[22:17] <Quest> ikonia,  yes. i have done that
[22:17] <ikonia> Quest: ok - so what's your question ?
[22:17] <Quest> ikonia,  the stack link defines my question in detail
[22:17] <ikonia> Quest: I'm asking you to summerise your question
[22:17] <Quest> ikonia,  then just 1. and 2. would be fine
[22:18] <Quest> what modules do I need?
[22:18] <Quest> what settings (ALL) like proxy (many iam not aware of), virtual host for multiple sites do i need for both tomcat and apache.
[22:18] <ikonia> Quest: I'm not reading a link, this is IRC, if you want your stackexchanges questions answered, use stack exchange
[22:18] <ikonia> Quest: what are you trying to setup ?
[22:18] <Quest> I need to run both .php and .jsp files. I can run them separately on each each (tomcat and apache httpd)
[22:18] <Quest> Friends tell me I need a proxy (user first hits apache httpd and it forwards to tomcat if its a .jsp, then back to apache and then to the user. php is served by apache in the normal way)
[22:18] <Quest> I am running php5, apache 2.2 and tomcat7 on ubuntu 12.10 all installed by apt-get.
[22:19] <ikonia> Quest: apache is a webserver, it will serve webpages, there are modules that tell it what to do with content/code, these are called handlers
[22:19] <ikonia> Quest: for example the php module is loaded, and you tel it to use that module for .php file extensions
[22:19] <Quest> what modules i need?
[22:19] <ikonia> Quest: that's up to you what modules you need
[22:19] <Quest> what modules i need for proxy
[22:19] <ikonia> Quest: mod_proxy
[22:20] <Quest> ikonia,  what choices i have
[22:20] <ikonia> Quest: it's listed in the doucumentation
[22:20] <Quest> ikonia,  thats the real problem. i need exact answers.   "mod_proxy" is not in avaialable-mods
[22:20] <ikonia> Quest: that is the proxy module
[22:21] <Quest> ikonia,  in /etc/apache2/mods-available$
[22:21] <ikonia> Quest: and it's detailed in the apache documentation
[22:21] <ikonia> Quest: that doesn't mean it's not a module
[22:21] <Quest> ikonia,  and what setting do i have to do
[22:21] <ikonia> Quest: modules-available is explained in the apache documentation I linked you to earlier
[22:21] <ikonia> Quest: I suggest you actually read this documentation rather than saying you've read it
[22:21] <ikonia> Quest: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_proxy.html
[22:21] <Quest> ikonia,  my research says mod_proxy_ajp replaces mod_jk
[22:22] <Quest> ikonia,  can you give citations for mod_proxy?
[22:22] <ikonia> Quest: you asked for a proxy module
[22:22] <ikonia> Quest: you didn't say anything about mod_jk
[22:22] <ikonia> Quest: what citations do you want ?
[22:22] <Quest> any form apache
[22:22] <Quest> from
[22:22] <ikonia> Quest: I don't understand what you are asking from me
[22:23] <Quest> ikonia,  http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/citation?s=t
[22:23] <ikonia> Quest: I'm not asking for a definition of the word citation, I'm asking what you actually want
[22:23] <Quest> oh
[22:23] <tgm4883> lol
[22:23] <Quest> ikonia,  any article that says i need mod_proxy for apache2.2
[22:23] <ikonia> Quest: I've just linked you to one
[22:23] <Quest> ikonia,  + the settings/ configs for it
[22:24] <ikonia> Quest: if you start reading the links I give you rather than keep asking what to do..you'll get moving quicker
[22:24] <Quest> ikonia,  it doesnt...
[22:24] <ikonia> Quest: it really does.
[22:24] <tgm4883> ikonia, can't you just ssh into his machine and do it for him?
[22:24] <ikonia> Quest: the title is "mod_proxy" - I'm pretty confident it explains "mod_proxy" quite well
[22:25] <Bray90820> how would i save the boot flags i added to grub during boot
[22:25] <Quest> ikonia,  the link again?
[22:25] <ikonia> Bray90820: edit the grub config file, and then update the grub config
[22:25] <ikonia> Quest: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_proxy.html
[22:25] <Quest> ikonia,  sure its for 2.2 because i only see  proxy_ajp and proxy_http.
[22:25] <ikonia> Quest: please start READING the links
[22:25] <ikonia> Quest: you're on your own
[22:25] <ikonia> Quest: that document says nothing about proxy_ajp
[22:25] <tgm4883> lol
[22:26] <Quest> ikonia,  iam very confused.
[22:26] <Bray90820> ikonia if i changed it once and the booted would it be engaged
[22:26] <ikonia> Quest: if you are not going to bother to read the information I'm giving you,
[22:26] <tgm4883> Quest, it says 2.2 right in the link
[22:26] <Quest> ikonia,  why #httpd guys state contrary
[22:26] <ikonia> Bray90820: no
[22:26] <ikonia> Bray90820: you need to write it to the config file, then run update-grub
[22:26] <Quest> ikonia,  i read your and their links both.
[22:26] <Quest> tgm4883,  ^
[22:26] <Bray90820> so there is no editing grub as just a 1 time thing to try out different codes
[22:26] <Bray90820> by pressing E at the grub meny
[22:26] <Bray90820> menu
[22:27] <tomahawks_> hi.. can anyone help me with this problem i have ?
[22:27] <marmulak> hey buddies
[22:27] <tomahawks_> hey
[22:27] <Guest22489> every time i run firefox system crashes. something in memory. is it possible to run firefox ignoring last visited pages?
[22:27] <tomahawks_> can you help me ?
[22:27] <ikonia> 21:37 < thumbs> Quest: also, if you'd mind stop asking the same questions over21:37 < thumbs> Quest: also, if you'd mind stop asking the same questions over and over here while appearing not reading our responses, that'd be awesome
[22:27] <tomahawks_> cant get access to my ubuntu
[22:27] <ikonia> Quest: so the apache channel got tired of telling you to read the information too
[22:27] <ikonia> Quest: I've just read what they told you and it does not conflict
[22:27] <ikonia> Quest: you just didn't read the information you where given
[22:28] <ikonia> and just kept asking about mod_fcgi
[22:28] <marmulak> tomahawks_: that's strange... I'm not having any trouble accessing my ubuntu
[22:28] <Quest> ikonia,  oh you were in #httpd  so thumbs said mod_proxy_ajp.. why?
[22:28] <Bray90820> ikonia were you talking to me
[22:28] <Bray90820> waite nevermind
[22:28] <lvl1rogue> tomahawks_: can you be more specific?
[22:29] <ikonia> Quest: you're asking different questions in #httpd and #ubuntu
[22:29] <surbs> Why is firefox used as a default web browser instead of chrome? Additionally, what are advantages of firefox vs chrome? There seem to be logs of updates for firefox, are they necessary or would it be OK to remove firefox completely?
[22:29] <surbs> lots*
[22:30] <tomahawks_> marmulak:  could it be problem in router?
[22:30] <Bray90820> ikonia if i were to hit E at the grub menu enter my code then boot by hitting CTR+X would that work as a 1 time flag
[22:30] <tomahawks_> i can ping to ubuntu but ubuntu cant ping to my computer
[22:30] <marmulak> tomahawks_: I do not know... I access my ubuntu without a router
[22:30] <ikonia> Bray90820: that's a 1 time boot
[22:30] <tomahawks_> home server ?
[22:31] <Bray90820> so just to make sure the code does work once if i do it that way right?
[22:31] <Bray90820> sorry for asking again
[22:32] <Shaded> Hello
[22:32] <lvl1rogue> surbs: Chrome isn't opensource. The Chromium browser is. Firefox is also a public license.
[22:32] <Shaded> I just logged into a new install and see a blank desktop
[22:32] <Bray90820> Is opera open as well
[22:33] <Shaded> Wow.
[22:33] <Shaded> ctrl-alt-f1 entirely shuts it down
[22:33] <Shaded> I installed a video driver, so I guess it didn't like that
[22:33] <Shaded> *sigh*
[22:33] <surbs> lvl1rogue: would removing firefox create any issues for the OS?
[22:33] <Shaded> Reinstall time again
[22:33] <X_x> no]
[22:33] <lvl1rogue> surbs: No
[22:33] <X_x> you can get to a terminal
[22:34] <Bray90820> anyone wanna help me TRY to fix a charging but i am having with my dell insperon duo
[22:34] <tomahawks_> so hey.. i cant connect to ubuntu,., should it be ubuntu server or just normal ubuntu desktop with installed extra ?
[22:34] <Bray90820> every time i plug or unplyg the charger the system totally hangs
[22:34] <Bray90820> i get a kernel panic
[22:34] <lvl1rogue> surbs: you can remove it with no worries
[22:34] <X_x> shaded hold on a sec you dont need to reinstall
[22:34] <surbs> lvl1rogue: is the browser a matter of personal preference? i.e. what would you advise one over the other?
[22:34] <Bray90820> i already tried acpi_backlight=vendor
[22:35] <lvl1rogue> surbs: the browser is (mostly) preference.
[22:35] <tomahawks_> does it matter ?
[22:35] <lvl1rogue> surbs: there are some you may want to avoid (on other OS) which have been known to have gaping security holes
[22:36] <lvl1rogue> surbs: you'd choose one over the other possibly because of some plugin/extension support you want or because you're comfortable with using Chrome over Firefox
[22:36] <Shaded> X_x: it's new, I feel like doing it
[22:37] <chrisbuchholz> Hey guys. I just installed ubuntu 12.10 on my Macbook Pro 5,5 and I cant get screen brightness to work. When i press the keys, a indicator shows, but the screen brightness doesnt change. I tried what it says in the 12.04 macbook pro 5,5 guide on ubuntu wiki, but that broke nvidia so i had to revert the changes. How can i get it working?
[22:37] <X_x> so you came in here just to tell us you feel like re-installing?
[22:37] <surbs> lvl1rougue: what security concerns would be worth checking? I mainly, keep firefox in order to see a cross-platform view of a website I am in the process of developing.
[22:37] <surbs> lvl1rogue* my apologies
[22:38] <tgm4883> !tab | surbs
[22:38] <Shaded> X_x: Well, I had more hope than that, but switching to the terminal server and watching the screen flicker to death killed my hopes and dreams
[22:39] <Shaded> X_x: Sidenote, I managed to get Grub2.0 working again... except that it doesn't load the GUI properly
[22:39] <SonikkuAmerica> Hey everyone! Quickie: If I use the wubi-move.sh script to migrate a Wubi install to a partition on my HDD, does it automatically fill all the space on that partition, or does it only fill the space allocated when I first created the Wubi install?
[22:39] <surbs> !tab | lvl1rogue
[22:39] <topper4125> thanks surbs... I didn't know about the tab thing either =)
[22:39] <surbs> !tab | lvl1rogue
[22:41] <surbs> ubottu, thank you!
[22:42] <lvl1rogue> surbs: For the most part there shouldn't be any since you won't be letting firefox (or another web browser) run with superuser privileges.
[22:42] <lvl1rogue> surbs: I was refering to the old Internet Explorer on windows, but thats gotten better.
[22:43] <SonikkuAmerica> >>> If I use the wubi-move.sh script to migrate a Wubi install to a partition on my HDD, does it automatically fill all the space on that partition, or does it only fill the space allocated when I first created the Wubi install? (Sorry, small amount of !patience)
[22:43] <surbs> lvl1rogue: awesome, thank you for insight!
[22:44] <Bray90820> so anytime i plug or unplug the charger from my netbook dell insperon duo i get a kernel panic
[22:45] <tgunr> Why are the window grow edges so hard to hit? spending 2-20 seconds trying to braw a window is ridiculous
[22:45] <tgunr> grow
[22:46] <tgunr>  Bray90820 tarts just downright rude!
[22:46] <tgunr> thats
[22:46] <Bray90820> tgunr what did i do
[22:47] <tgunr> was referring to your charger behavior, not you :)
[22:47] <Bray90820> ahh ok good
[22:48] <Bray90820> altho if i close the cover and then plug/unplug the charger it works
[22:48] <Bray90820> i can fix it by disabling acpi tho
[22:48] <Bray90820> but we all know that's not really a good idea
[22:48] <sudoersss> this is very weird. Last line of file is "user ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: /path/to/script  <-- that works with this pc, but not in my laptop. i use sudo visudo on both. both computers has default settings. So weird.
[22:49] <Bray90820> tgunr would you happen to know of a fix i could try
[22:50] <SonikkuAmerica> I'll be back!
[22:50] <tgunr> sorry, I'm a Macintosh kind of guy, day 2 on unbent here
[22:50] <jdukiet> is there an ubuntu newbie channel ?
[22:50] <tgunr> i hope it is here, cause thats what I am!
[22:50] <Bray90820> tgunr i am on a tower MacPro as we speak
[22:51] <sudoersss> is there some log files what i could try to seek? because this is too weird for me. and i don't stop until my script works also without sudo on that laptop :)
[22:51] <tgunr> cool, I worked on firmware at Apple for 10+ years
[22:51] <lvl1rogue> tgunr: for windows resizing check this http://askubuntu.com/a/44705
[22:51] <tgunr> reading
[22:51] <lvl1rogue> tgunr: for me I have to use the right mouse button rather then middle
[22:51] <Bray90820> so anyone else have something for me to try  for my charging eror
[22:52] <tgunr> uh, don't unplug it? :)
[22:52] <Bray90820> lol that's not a solution
[22:53] <tgunr> sounds like you somehow generating an unexpected interrupt when power state changes
[22:53] <Bray90820> i don't know
[22:53] <tgunr> you have a core dump?
[22:53] <Kvoth> I have a problem with cryptsetup, I get this error: Check that kernel supports blowfish-cbc-essiv:sha256 cipher (check syslog for more info).
[22:53] <tgunr> lvl1rogue: will try the right mouse button
[22:53] <Bray90820> tgure were you talking to me?
[22:54] <Kvoth> I have all the crypto modules up, less the sha256 that It's says don't found
[22:54] <Bray90820> tgunr were you talking to me
[22:54] <jdukiet> tgunr: yeah, well i like to sit and read all the questions and answers, but most of them are above my knowledge level here.
[22:54] <tgunr> Bray90820: yes, you should have a core dump if it crashed
[22:54] <Bray90820> tgunr where would i find that
[22:54] <tgunr> well, on a mac it is in the root at /
[22:55] <fooooh> hi, i'm running a xubuntu live cd and i'm currently downloading kubuntu using the live system. can i copy the entire live FS into ram so i can remove the live cd from the drive and burn the kubuntu iso?
[22:55] <Bray90820> i'll have a look
[22:55] <thexyz> Hello, guys, any info on when (time) will be the touch developer preview available?
[22:56] <tgunr> right mouse btw does nothing for me :(
[23:01] <Adam-85> howto install RSSOwl ?
[23:03] <local> guest account files ... deleted on logout?
[23:03] <escott> local, yes
[23:04] <local> esc: thanks. confirmed my hunch...
[23:04] <methods> is there no package or setup that automatically starts to use an /etc/profile.d type setup for each user ?
[23:05] <local> guest account: asks for password - what happened?
[23:05] <jhutchins_wk> methods: In what context?
[23:05] <methods> context ??
[23:06] <methods> I'd rather have ~/.profile.d/*
[23:06] <methods> instead of things like puppet trying to shove values into bashrc or what not
[23:06] <methods> I'm in the process of adding that to my puppet configs but i figured maybe there was a package or something that would update the default skel to use that
[23:06] <GreenNerd> Hello.
[23:06] <jhutchins_wk> I mean what are you trying to do?  I've used it to create web directories with a default web page for each new user, as well as several other kinds of things.
[23:06] <fbdystang> Hi, I have ubuntu desktop running as my server. My HD randomly appears to fill up (every few days). "df" shows 100% of disk space is used at /dev/sdc1. Please advise
[23:07] <jhutchins_wk> methods: Ah, I see what you mean.
[23:07] <escott> fbdystang, probably /var/log but use du to figure out where
[23:07] <jhutchins_wk> methods: No, nobody's doing that yet.
[23:07] <methods> honestly should be that way
[23:08] <lvl1rogue> tgunr: try Alt+F8
[23:08] <jhutchins_wk> methods: It's a relative new technique for dealing with configurations.  On the other hand, hardly anything messes with individual bash user profiles any more, and it make sense that there's only the central one.  Users don't install personal software.
[23:08] <methods> not really
[23:08] <tgunr> tree that, nada
[23:08] <tgunr> tried that
[23:08] <jhutchins_wk> methods: How many users do you administer?
[23:09] <methods> the .d paradigm has been around for a long time
[23:09] <GreenNerd> Running Ubuntu on my Asus Eee PC Netbook.  The screen brightness is horrible.  How do I get the brightness to work?  The keyboard shortcuts randomly function, and I can not find system preferences on how to adjust brightness using software.  Help?
[23:09] <lvl1rogue> tgunr: is your keyboard mapped the same as mine?
[23:09] <lvl1rogue> like ctrl and alt arent switched?
[23:09] <tgunr> have no idea, standard macbook pro
[23:09] <tgunr> according to emacs cmd=super
[23:09] <methods> it's not about software it's about certain users on a production host could use some standard environment setups
[23:09] <tgunr> option=meta
[23:10] <jhutchins_wk> methods: So put 'em in /etc/profile.d/
[23:10] <jhutchins_wk> methods: Or modify the skel files.
[23:10] <methods> i mean settings that should only apply to the specific user not to everyone at large
[23:10] <tgunr> ok, going to take a break, my head is sore
[23:10] <jhutchins_wk> methods: How many users on how many servers?
[23:10] <methods> yes which is what I'm doing but my original questions was wondering if a package existed to do this already
[23:10] <lvl1rogue> ok. you were using option for alt?
[23:11] <jhutchins_wk> methods: You could modify the central profile to read ~/profile.d/*
[23:11] <methods> ok thanks
[23:11] <fbdystang> escott: sudo du -sh /var/log shows 63M, so unless I am mistaken var/log is small. Any ideas?
[23:11] <surbs> is it typical for .Private in the home directory to take up the majority of space on the Ubuntu OS? It's a bunch of encrpty files and im not quite sure what the pupose of .Private is to be honest.
[23:12] <escott> surbs, thats the ciphertext for your $HOME
[23:12] <Bray90820> well i have the location where the system dump should be but i don't think one was ever generated
[23:12] <GreenNerd> I have current release of Ubuntu just installed on my Asus Eee PC Netbook.  I want XFCE desktop environment being the Netbook desktop is garbage.  I have sudo apt-get xfce4.  When I reboot, system is still using gnome Netbook (icons on left side of screen).  I despise this environment.  How do I make XFCE default environment?
[23:13] <surbs> escott, can you direct me to a more formal interpretation or documentation / what does ciphertext mean?
[23:13] <surbs> escott, take your time. i will be brb (afk 5mins tops)
[23:14] <GreenNerd> Help me please.
[23:14] <SonikkuAmerica> GreenNerd: [ sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop ]
[23:14] <GreenNerd> Ok, I will try again.
[23:14] <Bray90820> how how would i generate a core dump
[23:15] <GreenNerd> Thank you, SonikkuAmerica
[23:15] <fbdystang> escott: could it be that 1 of my raid drives are going bad and making it look like 100%?
[23:16] <escott> surbs, you have encrypted home. that means you have a ciphertext and a plaintext. your $HOME that you see is fake and doesn't exist. it is created as needed from the ciphertext
[23:16] <escott> fbdystang, no
[23:17] <fbdystang> escott: thats a relief... how do I figure out what is hogging all the space if du isn't telling me?
[23:18] <SonikkuAmerica_> And still no one answers: If I use wubi-move.sh to migrate my Wubi install to a partition, does it detect all the space on my partition, or would I have needed to specify a Wubi install exactly as big?
[23:19] <mgummelt> Hi, I'm running ubuntu 12.10.  I installed via the minimal CD.  When it asked for my network configuration, it seems to have written that data (for eth0) out to /etc/network/interfaces.  I don't want it there, so I removed it, but now ubuntu won't boot.  After grub, I just get a blank screen.  Any ideas?
[23:22] <paws> in my crontab -e if i put * * * * * what happens?
[23:22] <GreenNerd> mgummelt: Reinstall.
[23:22] <GreenNerd> Save yourself hours.
[23:23] <mgummelt> GreenNerd: What would I do differently in the second install?
[23:23] <chemistrycool> how do i update my firefox in ubunut so that it is on the developer release channel
[23:23] <k-stz> mgummelt: its a fresh install.. you updated graphics drivers last?
[23:23] <chemistrycool> with the most recent version
[23:23] <mgummelt> I haven't touched the graphics drivers
[23:24] <GreenNerd> Install 3rd party drivers during the actual install.  Configure network AFTER install is done and rebooted.  mgummelt
[23:24] <surbs> escott, to free up space what might be some applications / documents to look for that could be safely deleted?
[23:24] <mgummelt> GreenNerd: the installation process configured the network for me.  it needed to in order to download packages
[23:25] <mgummelt> GreenNerd: and I didn't see any options to install graphics drivers
[23:25] <surbs> escott, i am using 12.1 and feel like it diminished my partition alot
[23:25] <SonikkuAmerica> (That was weird)
[23:25] <GreenNerd> mgummelt:  Reinstall the system.  Your install didn't work right.  Install 3rd party drivers during installation.  There is a checkbox.
[23:25] <mgummelt> This only happens after I remove the "eth0" segment from my interfaces file, so I'm not sure what graphics drivers would have to do with it
[23:25] <raux> ça parle de la ps4 ici ou quoi ?
[23:25] <GreenNerd> I'm not talking about Graphics drivers, mgummelt
[23:26] <SonikkuAmerica> !fr | raux
[23:26] <fbdystang> Ok, i'll open this up to anyone else that can help. "df" shows that /dev/sdc1 is 100% full, but "du" shows /dev as 0M, so what is going on? How do I even know what sdc1 hd is anyways?
[23:26] <bean> paws, it will run every minute
[23:26] <paws> bean: thanx
[23:26] <mgummelt> Are you sure there's an option for 3rd party drivers in the install for the minimal CD?  I don't recall one.  And do you think it could be a network card driver problem?
[23:26] <SonikkuAmerica> fbdystang: Try running [ sudo fdisk -l ]
[23:26] <mgummelt> GreenNerd
[23:28] <escott> fbdystang, in what way is du not telling you?
[23:28] <lalaland> hello, would like to invite everyone to start learn Krav Maga Self Defense, please visit my website  if you like to get more info: 972kravmaga (dot) com
[23:28] <lunitik> mgummelt: Debian/Ubuntu uses that file for network configuration, you can't put it somewhere else and have it work
[23:29] <escott> surbs, tools like du dont know about the ecryptfs FUSE mount and will double count. just dont count $HOME, and only count ~/.Private
[23:29] <mgummelt> lunitik: I don't mean I removed the file, I mean I removed the "eth0" segment.  I did this so that NetworkManager would manage eth0 instead of ifupdown
[23:30] <mgummelt> GreenNerd: also, the install configured the interfaces file for me, so I can't do it "after the install"
[23:30] <Mario4586> help
[23:30] <lunitik> mgummelt: as far as I'm aware, NetworkManager on Deb systems uses that file
[23:31] <Mario4586> Where can i get the old version google chrome 17 at for ubuntu?
[23:31] <sckssssss> i just ran some updates, and upon reboot, unity is no longer visible, i have nvidia graphics
[23:31] <mgummelt> lunitik: OK, but I didn't remove the file
[23:32] <surbs> escott, so what would be the best way to measure the amount of space available on the partition?
[23:32] <GreenNerd> mgummelt: REINSTALL the entire thing.
[23:32] <GreenNerd> You just installed, so it shouldn't be hard to just do it again.  This time, try installing a more useful version.
[23:32] <lunitik> mgummelt: I'm dumb, my /etc/network/interfaces doesn't contain eth0 either... I apologize for my distraction.
[23:33] <mgummelt> GreenNerd: I've done that several times.  And I'd like to install from the minimal CD. Do you have any ideas of what to do differently?  Like I said, there is no option to install 3rd party drivers
[23:34] <GreenNerd> I don't know what to tell you - I don't use a "minimal CD" that is problematic.  I install the full Desktop edition and then downgrade to XFCE.  My life is more complete using that method.
[23:34] <mgummelt> GreenNerd: I don't understand the snark, but I guess thanks for the help
[23:35] <GreenNerd> It wasn't a snark.  It was a fact.
[23:35] <Wurlitzer> anyone familiar with xChat-Gnome and setting it up to use onion
[23:35] <sckssssss> any ideas on how i can get unity back?
[23:35] <fbdystang> escott, the command "sudo du -sh /var" gives me 1.4G, which the hd is 260G
[23:35] <lunitik> mgummelt: until you get something like nm-applet installed, I would just stick to ifupdown - NetworkManager is a pita on the command line
[23:35] <mgummelt> GreenNerd: Saying your life is "more complete" by not doing a minimal install like I am is certainly snark
[23:36] <GreenNerd> No - it is a fact.  By not using problematic methods, I am more satisfied with my course of action rather than death by 1000 razors.
[23:36] <lunitik> GreenNerd: your answer isn't a solution to his problem, you are telling him to do it your way because you don't know how to do what he wants.
[23:36] <fbdystang> escott, so either du or df are not working correctly, and I am not sure which one. I would like to first clear the large file wherever it is, then 2) prevent it from happening again. Please advise
[23:36] <mgummelt> luniti: well nm-applet doesn't work either for interfaces defined in /etc/network/interfaces.  It leaves those for ifupdown
[23:37] <GreenNerd> lunitik: Yes, you are correct.  I tell him how to do it the method I use (which works).  Why should I tell him how to do it in a manner in which is problematic?  Your logic is flawed.
[23:37] <mgummelt> GreenNerd: A Mac OSX user could say that for any of us in here
[23:37] <lunitik> GreenNerd: You should simply remain silent, he doesn't want to do it that way so it is not useful to dispute it.
[23:37] <mgummelt> GreenNerd: but that's not really the point of this entire forum
[23:37] <mgummelt> OK, I'll try a few other things.  Thanks lunitik
[23:38] <lunitik> mgummelt: Sorry you didn't get a real answer, good luck
[23:38] <GreenNerd> It is useful to tell people alternate methods of doing things.  Your logic is not sound.
[23:38] <piorek> I want to move X server from tty7 to some other tty, how do I do that?
[23:38] <Mario4586> how do i get adobe flash player to work on ubuntu 10.10? I have the flash player installed but it don't work I uninstalled and reinstalled it but not working.. how do i force it to work?
[23:39] <escott> surbs, fbdystang df is generally correct (except for btrfs)
[23:39] <Mario4586> Please answer
[23:39] <lunitik> GreenNerd: People use the minimal ISO's because they want a more custom experience, that method is fully supported so you should not make people feel otherwise.
[23:39] <Mario4586> Answer my question quick please
[23:39] <piorek> Mario4586: what browser are you using?
[23:39] <Bodsda> GreenNerd: relative to the question - your logic is the onee thats flawed
[23:39] <escott> fbdystang, and what about other partitions
[23:39] <GreenNerd> Mario4586:  Have you rebooted?
[23:39] <linux_is_my_hero> is there a chat room for picasa web?
[23:39] <Mario4586> Yes
[23:40] <Mario4586> but it still don't work
[23:40] <Bodsda> Mario4586: how did you install flash?
[23:40] <GreenNerd> Bodsda: I did not tell him he was wrong.  I told him how to use a method that works with fewer problems.  It is so funny how you want me to aid this man in rubbing his dick with sandpaper...
[23:40] <lunitik> Mario4586: how did you install flash?
[23:40] <Mario4586> software center
[23:40] <fbdystang> escott, I shouldn't have any other partitions. I have a 260G and a RAID 2T so each have own partitions
[23:40] <Bodsda> GreenNerd: reboot... really? you sure your nott supposed to be idling in ##windows ?
[23:40] <Mario4586> the ubuntu version is 10.10 as our desktop computer can't handle the newer ubuntu
[23:40] <GreenNerd> Yes, I have had to reboot during flash install using 10.10
[23:40] <escott> fbdystang, sorry directories not partitions
[23:41] <lunitik> Mario4586: dpkg -L flash-installer  (it might be dpkg -L flashplugin-nonfree or whatever too, I forget)
[23:41] <Bodsda> GreenNerd: you doing it wrong then
[23:41] <fbdystang> escott, df is telling me that /dev/sdc1 is using 100% of disk space. sdc1 is the 260G drive
[23:42] <Cairo> Are there any dangers to manually installing ubuntu alongisde win7, apart from accidentally deleting the win7 partition instead of splitting it?
[23:42] <lunitik> Mario4586: sorry, it is dpkg -L flashplugin-installer or flashplugin-nonfree ... but I think your version used the latter.
[23:42] <fbdystang> escott, so I naturally assume the problem is in that directory and not in other directories. As I mentioned /var/log is only 64M using du
[23:43] <Bodsda> Cairo: not really, I've done it plenty of times without issue
[23:43] <lunitik> Mario4586: This will tell me where it has put the files, and whether it actually successfully grabbed the flash lib
[23:43] <Cairo> Ok, cool
[23:43] <Cairo> thanks
[23:43] <escott> fbdystang, why do you think it is not in some other directory
[23:43] <bunjee> what program burns mp3's and also plays them on an audio player?
[23:43] <surbs> escott, if i wanted to repartition (daul OS with win 8) what precautionary measures would need to be taken?
[23:43] <fbdystang> escott, df is telling me that /dev/sdc1 is using 100% of disk space. sdc1 is the 260G drive
[23:43] <Bodsda> Cairo: don't do it the other way round though - install win7 first otherwise you'll have to reinstall GRUB
[23:44] <Bodsda> bunjee: brasero
[23:44] <lunitik> nuclearbob: sound-juicer
[23:44] <Cairo> Yeah, win7 came pre-installed, and I don't really want to get rid of it, but I also want Ubuntu
[23:44] <lunitik> Brasero replaced sound-juicer but doesn't do playback
[23:44] <surbs> how do you get rid of the marketing application that suggests books to buy on amazon, ect. on 12.1?
[23:44] <Bodsda> Cairo: thats fine, the installer should do a pretty good joob of offering you a side-bby-side partitioning scheme
[23:44] <fbdystang> escott, Ohhhh, i think I am following you now.
[23:45] <tgm4883> surbs, http://askubuntu.com/questions/192269/how-can-i-remove-amazon-search-results-from-the-dash
[23:45] <Cairo> ok, thanks all
[23:45] <lunitik> surbs: sudo apt-get remove unity-lens-shopping
[23:45] <Bodsda> lunitik: I thought he meant makes a cd usable in a cd player - my mistake
[23:46] <bunjee> bodsda - just the regular audio project? I want too burn Mp3's and play them on a cd player.
[23:46] <lunitik> Bodsda: I wasn't correcting you, you are not mistaken
[23:46] <fbdystang> escott, but isn't that a recursive statement if the same dev/harddrive is the one hosting the OS?
[23:46] <Bodsda> :)
[23:46] <escott> surbs, precautionary against what
[23:46] <Mario4586> lunitik what would be a good linux distro for a Athlon-xp 2400 compaq presario sw4020wm computer
[23:46] <Bodsda> bunjee: I'm not 100% sure what your after - brasero can burn audio CD's usable in a CD player
[23:47] <escott> fbdystang, recursive i dont follow?
[23:47] <olls> exit
[23:47] <lunitik> Mario4586: That is quite old, I would recommend starting with Xubuntu
[23:47] <Mario4586> lunitik the computer only has 512mb of ram
[23:47] <surbs> escott, loss of data / files... i understand its advisable to back files up, ect... but am afraid of how win8 will react to the repartition, will it render the system unusable / have there been issues?
[23:47] <lunitik> Mario4586: that should be fine, Xubuntu is for low powered systems
[23:48] <surbs> escott, essentiall dont want to have to reinstall both OS because of a repartition
[23:48] <fbdystang> escott, let me post my df output to pastebin to show
[23:48] <sckssssss> can someone help me get unity working
[23:48] <Bodsda> sckssssss: depends what the problem is
[23:48] <sckssssss> i installed some updates, rebooted, and now i got nothin
[23:49] <lunitik> surbs: The installer will prompt you to resize automatically, just don't write changes until you are sure... beyond that you should be fine.
[23:49] <Bodsda> sckssssss: define "nothing"
[23:49] <sckssssss> no unity
[23:49] <sckssssss> have desktop and icons
[23:49] <escott> surbs, i'm not following what you are doing or why. your original question was a confusion about disk usage from the double counting due to the encrypted home. why are you proposing to repartition
[23:49] <Bodsda> sckssssss: any nity related processes shown in top?
[23:49] <Bodsda> unity*
[23:50] <fbdystang> escott, http://pastebin.com/86teYLKK
[23:50] <lunitik> surbs: Ubuntu expects to be dual-booted, so the installer acts accordingly.
[23:50] <Mario4586> lunitik is 34GB enough?
[23:50] <Mario4586> of hard drive space?
[23:50] <Mario4586> for xubuntu
[23:51] <lunitik> Mario4586: plenty, Xubuntu will take at most a gig fully installed
[23:51] <sckssssss> Bodsda: i don't see any
[23:51] <Frostb1te> Hey can someone help me out
[23:51] <Frostb1te> im trying to get my HDMI output working
[23:51] <surbs> lunitik, escott : disk usage is at 98%, was originally planning to remove applications/files in order to free up space. accordingly, i have determined that it might just be a better idea to repartition. additionally this is not a fresh install.
[23:52] <Bodsda> sckssssss: what happens if you run "unity --replace" ?
[23:52] <escott> surbs, disk usage as reported by what tool
[23:52] <Frostb1te> ":(
[23:52] <surbs> escott, df
[23:52] <escott> fbdystang, what kind of filesystem do you have
[23:52] <lunitik> surbs: You will want to backup, and in Software Center it can save  the currently installed state (what packages are installed) so you can get back to where you are quicker.
[23:52] <fbdystang> escott, ext4
[23:53] <escott> surbs, have you used baobob to identify where the usage is coming from
[23:53] <Mario4586> lunitik did you get my msg to you?
[23:53] <lunitik> surbs: other than that, just reinstall and make more room this time  :)
[23:53] <Frostb1te> does linux work with hdmi
[23:53] <sckssssss> Bodsda: interesting that you ask that, i get a circle in the middle of my screen
[23:53] <surbs> escott, no what is baobob
[23:53] <sckssssss> it says error: another window manager is running on the screen
[23:53] <escott> fbdystang, well df is correct in that case. you will have to run "du" on many different disks or use baobob if you have a gui to figure out where the usage is coming from
[23:53] <lunitik> Frostb1te: yes, but it shouldn't even be Ubuntu's concern.
[23:54] <escott> !info baobob | surbs fbdystang
[23:54] <Frostb1te> is it my video card/
[23:54] <surbs> lunitik, haha, i have learned my lesson for sure. was not aware of how much i would fall in love with this OS originally
[23:54] <sckssssss> unity-panel-service: no process found
[23:54] <sckssssss> and some compiz stuff
[23:54] <escott> !find baobob | surbs fbdystang
[23:54] <lunitik> Frostb1te: I am using HDMI right now, but there was no config necessary, I just plugged it in... so it is difficult to know what might be wrong there.
[23:54] <Frostb1te> think you can help me out?
[23:54] <Frostb1te> i plugged mine in, it reconized it but no output
[23:54] <Bodsda> sckssssss: log out, on the login screen click the ubuntu/<some other window manager icon> next to your login name - ensure it is useing something like "Ubuntu" or "Unity" rather than anything else
[23:55] <Frostb1te> NVIDIA Corporation GF108
[23:55] <fbdystang> surbs, at least there are 2 of us getting mangled by disk usage errors :)
[23:56] <paws> home come my home dir chmod permissions always change after i reboot? I want to keep my /home/user to 755 (for apache)
[23:56] <escott> fbdystang, i keep saying disks/partitions when i mean directories, but check du -hs /
[23:56] <Bodsda> paws: I have no idea about the auto permission change - but why are you running apache sites from your home dir?
[23:56] <sckssssss> Bodsda: i don't see that as an option anywhere
[23:57] <surbs> escott, can you explain the syntax behind " '!find' - what does this do? 'baobob' - what is it? '|' - what does this mean? "
[23:57] <fbdystang> escott, I have a suspicion if I reboot the problem will be solved, but the underlying root problem of it filling up would still be unkown
[23:57] <Bodsda> sckssssss: it's kind of hidden, somewhere on the login screen is a small icon which when you click on it allows you to select a different window manager
[23:57] <surbs> fbdystang, fo sho hahaha
[23:57] <escott> !info baobab | surbs fbdystang i was spelling it wrong
[23:58] <rootpt> Can someone tell me 1 good sh*tlist/blacklist plugin/script please? and a clone too? (for xchat)
[23:58] <sckssssss> def not an option
[23:58] <surbs> ubottu, NICE!
[23:59] <fbdystang> surbs, ubottu is a bot, invoked by escott :)
[23:59] <surbs> #irc noob XD
[23:59] <fbdystang> escott, sudo du -hs / appears to hang