| billytwowilly | so I dragged a file onto vlc from pcmanfm and it dissapeared... | 00:03 |
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| billytwowilly | normally that plays the file. | 00:03 |
| billytwowilly | this time it deleted it, or moved it some place non-obvious | 00:03 |
| === redtape-renegade is now known as redtape-AFK | ||
| comradekingu | has anyone tried lubuntu 12.10 with unetbooting persistent storage UBIFS, seems like its not quite ready for prime | 00:59 |
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| thiefy | how can i make x11vnc start before i have to login to the desktop? meaning, if the computer reboots, i want to be able to vnc to it, and then login to the desktop enviroment. | 09:54 |
| thiefy | i've seen instructions on the net, but they are obsolete, they tell you to play with files that aren't there these days. | 09:54 |
| === thiefy is now known as mooooo | ||
| jude0 | mooooo, add a line to /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart | 10:00 |
| mooooo | i tried that.... failure.... though, i now just took it outta my autostart folder. ~/.config/autostart | 10:16 |
| mooooo | rebooting... see if she works. | 10:17 |
| mooooo | works great. though, problem is, i don't have to login to the computer to use it. | 10:18 |
| === redtape-AFK is now known as redtape-renegade | ||
| mooooo | ok, i was wrong. taht does NOT work jude0 | 10:49 |
| mooooo | i can vnc into the computer AFTER i log in just fine. but i want this to be able to vnc to the computer, and THEN login to it. | 10:50 |
| jude0 | mooooo maybe /etc/xdg/openbox/autostart | 11:19 |
| mooooo | (i'm using peppermint) but it's the same as what you've said... i see both dirs that you've mentioned. | 11:30 |
| mooooo | i'll try it in the openbox autostart and see how that goes. | 11:30 |
| mooooo | instead of /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart i have this: /etc/xdg/lxsession/Peppermint/autostart but i'll try it in here: /etc/xdg/openbox/autostart | 11:31 |
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| === redtape-AFK is now known as redtape-renegade | ||
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| thiefy | how can i make a program run before x launches? | 16:57 |
| thiefy | i want to have x11vnc start and be able for me to vnc into it - before i have to log into the normal desktop. | 16:58 |
| holstein | thiefy: that will be simiar for all ubuntu/debian/linux | 17:06 |
| holstein | http://askubuntu.com/questions/83824/how-can-i-start-a-vnc-server-before-log-on | 17:07 |
| holstein | vino is what i have used in the past | 17:07 |
| holstein | http://www.abdevelopment.ca/blog/start-vnc-server-ubuntu-boot | 17:07 |
| thiefy | holstein, i did what the site says: then at this part, i'll show you what i get.... | 17:34 |
| thiefy | Make the script executable with sudo chmod +x /etc/init.d/vncserver. | 17:34 |
| thiefy | Then, run sudo update-rc.d vncserver defaults. This adds the appropriate symlinks to the vncserver script so that it is sent the start and stop commands at the appropriate time. | 17:34 |
| thiefy | Make the script executable with sudo chmod +x /etc/init.d/vncserver. | 17:34 |
| thiefy | Then, run sudo update-rc.d vncserver defaults. This adds the appropriate symlinks to the vncserver script so that it is sent the start and stop commands at the appropriate time. | 17:34 |
| thiefy | usage: update-rc.d [-n] [-f] <basename> remove | 17:35 |
| thiefy | update-rc.d [-n] <basename> defaults [NN | SS KK] | 17:35 |
| thiefy | update-rc.d [-n] <basename> start|stop NN runlvl [runlvl] [...] . | 17:35 |
| thiefy | update-rc.d [-n] <basename> disable|enable [S|2|3|4|5] | 17:35 |
| thiefy | -n: not really | 17:35 |
| thiefy | -f: force | 17:35 |
| thiefy | The disable|enable API is not stable and might change in the future. | 17:35 |
| thiefy | it doesn't like taht update-rc.d vncserver command. | 17:35 |
| thiefy | any thoughts? i'll keep playing... | 17:36 |
| holstein | thiefy: i literally installed vino and ran vino-preferences and used it | 17:40 |
| thiefy | heh, i am reading vino is a good choice. but does it create another x session for vnc or does it use display 0 ? | 17:43 |
| holstein | thiefy: i just logged in as whatever user i wanted | 17:45 |
| thiefy | i am gonna try vino. this is just stupid.... | 18:09 |
| thiefy | holstein, and i assume vino started up and allowed you to vnc in before you had to do the normal login to the os right? | 18:31 |
| holstein | thiefy: correct | 18:32 |
| thiefy | what about freenx ? ever used it? | 18:32 |
| holstein | freenx and nomachine | 18:34 |
| holstein | its not vnc | 18:34 |
| holstein | if you want it, its great... but its not remote desktop.. its forwarding a desktop session | 18:34 |
| holstein | a lot like forwarding an application over ssh, but its an entire desktop | 18:35 |
| thiefy | oh, i don't want that. | 18:35 |
| thiefy | i want the vnc standard. | 18:35 |
| thiefy | and i don't want another X to run. i just want to forward the one that boots. | 18:36 |
| holstein | well, its quite nice. quite a bit more usable | 18:37 |
| holstein | personally, i dont do vnc anymore.. its not usable for most of what i want to do | 18:37 |
| holstein | i just forward one application over ssh, or use nomachine | 18:37 |
| thiefy | what's the diff between nomachine and normal vnc? | 18:37 |
| holstein | thiefy: as i said, vnc forwards the desktop.. allwing you to control a current session ..freenx/nomachin forwards a session.. its much more like a desktop | 18:41 |
| holstein | what would i do? just try them both and see what fits your needs, and what works | 18:41 |
| thiefy | what i am really only worried about is the method taht is lightest on the computer, and the fastest. | 18:42 |
| thiefy | whcih is why i keep saying i don't want to initiate another x session... you know what i mean? | 18:42 |
| holstein | depends on what you are wanting | 18:50 |
| holstein | if you need VNC< then you need it.. there is no lighter way | 18:50 |
| holstein | nomachine is faster feelling and seems more native, but its not vnc | 18:50 |
| thiefy | i hear ya. i'll see how this vino goes. | 18:52 |
| thiefy | i have to wait for a file transfer to finish before i can reboot and make sure it works as expected. | 18:53 |
| Unit193 | So are you looking for something like http://seb.so/vnc-from-boot-without-logging-in-ubuntu-lubuntu-xubuntu-and-mint-lmde/ ? (Don't use the Lubuntu/LXDM method) | 18:53 |
| thiefy | i read that page, and i didn't do it cause Put this in /etc/lxdm/LoginReady: that part i stopped at cause that file or anything like it doesn't exist. | 18:55 |
| Unit193 | Yeah, Lubuntu uses lightdm, not lxdm. | 18:56 |
| thiefy | lxdm and lxde are different right? | 18:57 |
| thiefy | if i do ls /etc/lxdm or ls /etc/lxde both return nothing (the folders don't exist) | 18:58 |
| thiefy | that's why i said screw it to those instructions. | 18:58 |
| thiefy | i'm copying a 2 gig file over usb 1.0. heheh. (old computer) after the transfer is done, i'll reboot and see how vino goes. then if it works i can thank you muchly and we don't have to care about this x11vnc anymore. hahah | 18:59 |
| kiwo | hi! How do you do to start an application at the boot? | 19:11 |
| thiefy | put a .desktop file into ~/.config/autostart/ | 19:14 |
| kiwo | ah ok | 19:15 |
| kiwo | it's simple :) | 19:15 |
| thiefy | yar laddie. | 19:15 |
| thiefy | hey holstein i have a probaly obvious question.... if i run a program like say transmission using X over ssh and it's downloading a iso... then i close the window, it would close the transmission on the server right? (i want to be able to run transmission, make it dl a iso, close the ssh, and come back (meaning ssh back in later) and see if it's finished downloading. | 19:23 |
| Unit193 | Yes, that would close and shutdown the application. | 19:28 |
| thiefy | is there a way to make it not do that? heh. | 19:31 |
| Unit193 | Does transmission have a daemon mode? | 19:32 |
| thiefy | yeah, it looks like it does. good thinking. thanks. : quantal (net): lightweight BitTorrent client (command line programs) | 19:35 |
| thiefy | 2.61-0ubuntu2: amd64 i386 | 19:35 |
| thiefy | ^ that's transmission package. | 19:36 |
| thiefy | holstein, i have vino installed, i did the preferences thingy too. but i can't connect to it. how do i know it is running at boot? and ready to accept my connection before login to the desktop? | 19:56 |
| thiefy | holstein, the preferences don't let me tweak much... like the port and stuff, so i'm assuming it's the default 5900 port... | 19:57 |
| Unit193 | You can check with netstat, and can check if it's even running with ps aux | grep vino | 19:57 |
| thiefy | mika@comcrap ~ $ ps ax | grep vino | 19:58 |
| thiefy | 1458 pts/0 S+ 0:00 grep --colour=auto vino | 19:58 |
| thiefy | that's all i get. | 19:58 |
| thiefy | so i think that means it's not running. | 19:58 |
| thiefy | of course... | 19:58 |
| thiefy | i want it to run right at boot - before i have to login to the computer. | 19:59 |
| Unit193 | !info transmission-daemon | 20:00 |
| ubottu | transmission-daemon (source: transmission): lightweight BitTorrent client (daemon). In component main, is optional. Version 2.61-0ubuntu2 (quantal), package size 241 kB, installed size 581 kB | 20:00 |
| Unit193 | thiefy: I've never used vino, but I'd try having it run after lightdm with upstart. | 20:01 |
| thiefy | uhh, i have a computer that is headless. when the computer boots, i want to be able to vnc to it. i can't go over to it, log in, then run back to my client computer and then do the vnc to it. | 20:03 |
| kiwo | bye | 20:11 |
| Unit193 | (I don't do that either, I use ssh) | 20:12 |
| thiefy | is there a way to ssh into it and do some command to log it into the desktop? | 20:13 |
| Unit193 | Well, you can start VNC, but there's no point to doing that when you can have that on autostart. | 20:14 |
| thiefy | vnc doesn't start unless i login. that's the problem. | 20:14 |
| Unit193 | It's all in how it's setup. | 20:15 |
| thiefy | if i go over to the computer, login to the desktop, go back to the client - then do vnc, it's fine. but i don't want to have to do that. | 20:15 |
| Unit193 | So if you setup vnc (via vino, or x11vnc after lightdm), you shouldn't have that issue. | 20:16 |
| thiefy | i have setup vnc many times, x11vnc and vino - they work great AFTER i log into the desktop... | 20:16 |
| Unit193 | So if you use the method in http://seb.so/vnc-from-boot-without-logging-in-ubuntu-lubuntu-xubuntu-and-mint-lmde/ (again, not the Lubuntu/LXDM method!) it doesn't work? | 20:18 |
| thiefy | right. | 20:19 |
| thiefy | i read that page, and i didn't do it cause Put this in /etc/lxdm/LoginReady: that part i stopped at cause that file or anything like it doesn't exist. | 20:19 |
| thiefy | if i do ls /etc/lxdm or ls /etc/lxde both return nothing (the folders don't exist) | 20:19 |
| thiefy | that's why i said screw it to those instructions. | 20:19 |
| Unit193 | That's why I've said twice to ignore the Lubuntu/lxdm part of it....... | 20:21 |
| Unit193 | Lubuntu doesn't use LXDM, they use lightdm. | 20:21 |
| * genii-around slides everyone a really strong coffee | 20:27 | |
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