[00:03] so I dragged a file onto vlc from pcmanfm and it dissapeared... [00:03] normally that plays the file. [00:03] this time it deleted it, or moved it some place non-obvious === redtape-renegade is now known as redtape-AFK [00:59] has anyone tried lubuntu 12.10 with unetbooting persistent storage UBIFS, seems like its not quite ready for prime === IboS_ is now known as IboS [09:54] how can i make x11vnc start before i have to login to the desktop? meaning, if the computer reboots, i want to be able to vnc to it, and then login to the desktop enviroment. [09:54] i've seen instructions on the net, but they are obsolete, they tell you to play with files that aren't there these days. === thiefy is now known as mooooo [10:00] mooooo, add a line to /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart [10:16] i tried that.... failure.... though, i now just took it outta my autostart folder. ~/.config/autostart [10:17] rebooting... see if she works. [10:18] works great. though, problem is, i don't have to login to the computer to use it. === redtape-AFK is now known as redtape-renegade [10:49] ok, i was wrong. taht does NOT work jude0 [10:50] i can vnc into the computer AFTER i log in just fine. but i want this to be able to vnc to the computer, and THEN login to it. [11:19] mooooo maybe /etc/xdg/openbox/autostart [11:30] (i'm using peppermint) but it's the same as what you've said... i see both dirs that you've mentioned. [11:30] i'll try it in the openbox autostart and see how that goes. [11:31] instead of /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart i have this: /etc/xdg/lxsession/Peppermint/autostart but i'll try it in here: /etc/xdg/openbox/autostart === redtape-renegade is now known as redtape-AFK === redtape-AFK is now known as redtape-renegade === redtape-renegade is now known as redtape-AFK === redtape-AFK is now known as redtape-renegade [16:57] how can i make a program run before x launches? [16:58] i want to have x11vnc start and be able for me to vnc into it - before i have to log into the normal desktop. [17:06] thiefy: that will be simiar for all ubuntu/debian/linux [17:07] http://askubuntu.com/questions/83824/how-can-i-start-a-vnc-server-before-log-on [17:07] vino is what i have used in the past [17:07] http://www.abdevelopment.ca/blog/start-vnc-server-ubuntu-boot [17:34] holstein, i did what the site says: then at this part, i'll show you what i get.... [17:34] Make the script executable with sudo chmod +x /etc/init.d/vncserver. [17:34] Then, run sudo update-rc.d vncserver defaults. This adds the appropriate symlinks to the vncserver script so that it is sent the start and stop commands at the appropriate time. [17:34] Make the script executable with sudo chmod +x /etc/init.d/vncserver. [17:34] Then, run sudo update-rc.d vncserver defaults. This adds the appropriate symlinks to the vncserver script so that it is sent the start and stop commands at the appropriate time. [17:35] usage: update-rc.d [-n] [-f] remove [17:35] update-rc.d [-n] defaults [NN | SS KK] [17:35] update-rc.d [-n] start|stop NN runlvl [runlvl] [...] . [17:35] update-rc.d [-n] disable|enable [S|2|3|4|5] [17:35] -n: not really [17:35] -f: force [17:35] The disable|enable API is not stable and might change in the future. [17:35] it doesn't like taht update-rc.d vncserver command. [17:36] any thoughts? i'll keep playing... [17:40] thiefy: i literally installed vino and ran vino-preferences and used it [17:43] heh, i am reading vino is a good choice. but does it create another x session for vnc or does it use display 0 ? [17:45] thiefy: i just logged in as whatever user i wanted [18:09] i am gonna try vino. this is just stupid.... [18:31] holstein, and i assume vino started up and allowed you to vnc in before you had to do the normal login to the os right? [18:32] thiefy: correct [18:32] what about freenx ? ever used it? [18:34] freenx and nomachine [18:34] its not vnc [18:34] if you want it, its great... but its not remote desktop.. its forwarding a desktop session [18:35] a lot like forwarding an application over ssh, but its an entire desktop [18:35] oh, i don't want that. [18:35] i want the vnc standard. [18:36] and i don't want another X to run. i just want to forward the one that boots. [18:37] well, its quite nice. quite a bit more usable [18:37] personally, i dont do vnc anymore.. its not usable for most of what i want to do [18:37] i just forward one application over ssh, or use nomachine [18:37] what's the diff between nomachine and normal vnc? [18:41] thiefy: as i said, vnc forwards the desktop.. allwing you to control a current session ..freenx/nomachin forwards a session.. its much more like a desktop [18:41] what would i do? just try them both and see what fits your needs, and what works [18:42] what i am really only worried about is the method taht is lightest on the computer, and the fastest. [18:42] whcih is why i keep saying i don't want to initiate another x session... you know what i mean? [18:50] depends on what you are wanting [18:50] if you need VNC< then you need it.. there is no lighter way [18:50] nomachine is faster feelling and seems more native, but its not vnc [18:52] i hear ya. i'll see how this vino goes. [18:53] i have to wait for a file transfer to finish before i can reboot and make sure it works as expected. [18:53] So are you looking for something like http://seb.so/vnc-from-boot-without-logging-in-ubuntu-lubuntu-xubuntu-and-mint-lmde/ ? (Don't use the Lubuntu/LXDM method) [18:55] i read that page, and i didn't do it cause Put this in /etc/lxdm/LoginReady: that part i stopped at cause that file or anything like it doesn't exist. [18:56] Yeah, Lubuntu uses lightdm, not lxdm. [18:57] lxdm and lxde are different right? [18:58] if i do ls /etc/lxdm or ls /etc/lxde both return nothing (the folders don't exist) [18:58] that's why i said screw it to those instructions. [18:59] i'm copying a 2 gig file over usb 1.0. heheh. (old computer) after the transfer is done, i'll reboot and see how vino goes. then if it works i can thank you muchly and we don't have to care about this x11vnc anymore. hahah [19:11] hi! How do you do to start an application at the boot? [19:14] put a .desktop file into ~/.config/autostart/ [19:15] ah ok [19:15] it's simple :) [19:15] yar laddie. [19:23] hey holstein i have a probaly obvious question.... if i run a program like say transmission using X over ssh and it's downloading a iso... then i close the window, it would close the transmission on the server right? (i want to be able to run transmission, make it dl a iso, close the ssh, and come back (meaning ssh back in later) and see if it's finished downloading. [19:28] Yes, that would close and shutdown the application. [19:31] is there a way to make it not do that? heh. [19:32] Does transmission have a daemon mode? [19:35] yeah, it looks like it does. good thinking. thanks. : quantal (net): lightweight BitTorrent client (command line programs) [19:35] 2.61-0ubuntu2: amd64 i386 [19:36] ^ that's transmission package. [19:56] holstein, i have vino installed, i did the preferences thingy too. but i can't connect to it. how do i know it is running at boot? and ready to accept my connection before login to the desktop? [19:57] holstein, the preferences don't let me tweak much... like the port and stuff, so i'm assuming it's the default 5900 port... [19:57] You can check with netstat, and can check if it's even running with ps aux | grep vino [19:58] mika@comcrap ~ $ ps ax | grep vino [19:58] 1458 pts/0 S+ 0:00 grep --colour=auto vino [19:58] that's all i get. [19:58] so i think that means it's not running. [19:58] of course... [19:59] i want it to run right at boot - before i have to login to the computer. [20:00] !info transmission-daemon [20:00] transmission-daemon (source: transmission): lightweight BitTorrent client (daemon). In component main, is optional. Version 2.61-0ubuntu2 (quantal), package size 241 kB, installed size 581 kB [20:01] thiefy: I've never used vino, but I'd try having it run after lightdm with upstart. [20:03] uhh, i have a computer that is headless. when the computer boots, i want to be able to vnc to it. i can't go over to it, log in, then run back to my client computer and then do the vnc to it. [20:11] bye [20:12] (I don't do that either, I use ssh) [20:13] is there a way to ssh into it and do some command to log it into the desktop? [20:14] Well, you can start VNC, but there's no point to doing that when you can have that on autostart. [20:14] vnc doesn't start unless i login. that's the problem. [20:15] It's all in how it's setup. [20:15] if i go over to the computer, login to the desktop, go back to the client - then do vnc, it's fine. but i don't want to have to do that. [20:16] So if you setup vnc (via vino, or x11vnc after lightdm), you shouldn't have that issue. [20:16] i have setup vnc many times, x11vnc and vino - they work great AFTER i log into the desktop... [20:18] So if you use the method in http://seb.so/vnc-from-boot-without-logging-in-ubuntu-lubuntu-xubuntu-and-mint-lmde/ (again, not the Lubuntu/LXDM method!) it doesn't work? [20:19] right. [20:19] i read that page, and i didn't do it cause Put this in /etc/lxdm/LoginReady: that part i stopped at cause that file or anything like it doesn't exist. [20:19] if i do ls /etc/lxdm or ls /etc/lxde both return nothing (the folders don't exist) [20:19] that's why i said screw it to those instructions. [20:21] That's why I've said twice to ignore the Lubuntu/lxdm part of it....... [20:21] Lubuntu doesn't use LXDM, they use lightdm. [20:27] * genii-around slides everyone a really strong coffee === head_victim is now known as jared_ === Branden is now known as Wewt