[06:19] <zyal> hello
[06:19] <zyal> anyone wanna help me with my problem :D first time developing using qml
[06:40] <tsimpson> zyal: there's #qt-qml and #qt if you're looking for help with QML
[07:02] <ubutuphoneintere> Good morning (for european people :)) if got a question about ubuntu phone. there is a dev-ide with qt-creator and c++. why isnt the quickly toolchain with gtk and python supportet for phones? and is there a tutorial for qt + c++ (not just qt like in he tutorial on ubuntus dev-page) ?
[07:08] <qwertzui11> ubutuphoneintere: morning from AUT ;)
[07:08] <qwertzui11> http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/app-developer-cookbook/mobile/currency-converter-phone-app/
[07:08] <qwertzui11> yesss qt creator is best for writng a mobile app
[07:09] <qwertzui11> r u new to development, or just "c++"?
[07:12] <ubutuphoneintere> new to qt and c++. i know c, java and python. ty for your link, but i know this example and there is everything done in qt and javascript, no c++ or am i false at this point?
[07:15] <qwertzui11> ubutuphoneintere: looks like only javaScript. There are lots of tuts for java devs who want to learn C++. If u know C, u shouldn't have any problems
[07:17] <ubutuphoneintere> yes i think so too, but i miss the combination of c++ and qml. there are a lots of c++ with qt-framework examples but not with qml, or i didnt find them ;)
[07:18] <qwertzui11> ubutuphoneintere: qtcreator comes with loads of examples (ofc with src)
[07:18] <qwertzui11> check them out! :)
[07:19] <ubutuphoneintere> oh well Oo never looked in there :) i will do that. thank you ver much
[07:21] <qwertzui11> ubutuphoneintere: ur welcome
[07:22] <ubutuphoneintere> but another question. is gtk and python to slow for phones? with c++ you have to hold a lot of binarys for every platform in store i think. if gtk is slow then qt and python could be reduce the number of binarys to hold. any idea why ubutu used qt and c++?
[07:24] <qwertzui11> ubutuphoneintere: qt is (in my opinion) muh migthier, cleaner and easier for beginners. Beside qt will be available for android/iOs/win8 and some other mobile os. So u don't have to rewrite ur app for ubuntu. If u got an qt-andorid app it should be "easy" to port.
[07:26] <ubutuphoneintere> okay, and because the apps for other platforms are written in c++ this is used too!?
[07:29] <qwertzui11> ubutuphoneintere: im just guessing! im sure in mark shuttleworths blog ull get the true reasons ;)
[07:30] <ubutuphoneintere> ill just wonder because ill done the tutorial for quickly (mybrowser example) and was impressed how easy an app for ubutu can be done. so i asked me why ubutu- team uses this easy infrastrucure for mobile apps too. you have just to say "quickly pack" and there is a .deb file with all dependencys listet etc.
[07:31] <ubutuphoneintere> well okay ill check this too :) thank you very much. and have a nice day
[07:32] <qwertzui11> u'll see qt is even more fun than quikly ;) u too
[08:50] <Markopolo> morning all
[11:18] <alias_neo> Have we got a time yet for Developer Preview release?
[11:26] <Great_Day> alias_neo: last time Ubuntu tablet was released (just the info) it was in 4,5 hours from now
[11:27] <alias_neo> Great_Day: Ah, shame, that's near the end of hte working day, was hoping to see it before I leave for home tonight.
[11:28] <Great_Day> alias_neo: I don't say it will be released at that point, but that is about 8 am in the USA (washington area)
[11:29] <alias_neo> Great_Day: I should have figured that "Thursday" essentially means Friday to this side of the pond.
[11:30] <alias_neo> Just like the Sony PS4 announcement  started while I was tucked up in bed last night.
[11:47] <Great_Day> alias_neo: haha, that always the problem with time :)
[11:51] <alias_neo> Great_Day: No rush, my Nexus 10 is taking it's sweet time to backup with TWRP anyway, it's being going 2 hours now, I imagine the battery is going to run out before it finishes backing up, so I'll only have to wait till I get home before I can back it up properly, ready to flash Ubuntu.
[11:51] <alias_neo> its*
[11:52] <Great_Day> alias_neo: will the ubuntu OS for tablet also be realeased then?
[11:52] <Great_Day> I thought it was only the phone os that would be released on the gnex
[11:52] <alias_neo> Great_Day: Nope, N7 and N10 today as well.
[11:53] <Great_Day> damn, why didn't I buy me a nexus 10 :(
[11:53] <alias_neo> Hehe, why indeed.
[11:54] <Great_Day> It is quit expensive here... And since I don't see really the use of a tablet, I didn't...
[11:54] <Great_Day> I hope it will be ported soon to my phone..
[13:44] <alias_neo> I'm not sure what their model is, I hope the idea is to make it available to most hardware, but there is the issue with proprietary binaries, such as drivers. That said, if your device is popular enough, the community should port it.
[13:55] <Great_Day> alias_neo: yup true, I also heard it is not that hard to port it. I have some experience, so I hope I get it that far..
[14:06] <alias_neo> Sounds good. Little surprised with how long it's expected to be before official release though, OS this November, hardware next year
[14:07] <alias_neo> I wonder if the Developer preview will support OTA updates if if it'll be a reflash each time
[15:23] <mbender71> good morning :-)
[15:28] <mbender71> would anyone here be able to answer a simple question about glade + toolbar (container) editing?
[15:30] <Great_Day> mbender71: depends on it...
[15:32] <mbender71> I'm a complete newbie to Ubuntu development (though not to development) and decided to watch the video on develop.ubuntu.com. Quick tutorial on using Glade + Python etc etc
[15:34] <Great_Day> hhmmm.. mbender71 doesn' t sounds like something I know much of, probably the others do...
[15:35] <mbender71> 10 minutes into tutorial a Toolbar is added and a button is added.. then instructed to change the button text + icon.. well I can't do that as Glade has the "edit text" and "edit icon" grayed out. I have no clue why.. This is pretty simple stuff :-(
[15:36] <zyal> mbender71: Where is this video your watching
[15:37] <mbender71> http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/
[15:37] <mbender71> i just installed a fresh copy of 12.10 Desktop x64, quickly, etc etc.. just can't figure out this silly anomaly :-(
[15:45] <zyal> Wish I could help you Im new to programing
[15:53] <Baoqi> 大家好
[15:55] <mbender71> goodness... just found the answer... that video really needs to change... and the answer doesn't quite make sense but it works...
[20:26] <Postremus1> Hey
[23:21] <GuidoPallemans> is there any way to save data in a qml app?
[23:37] <GuidoPallemans> - solved