[01:34] <arcadia> Hello?
[02:09] <b35u> hi all -- anyone familiar with ubuntu installs in virtualbox?
[13:03] <asddda> hi, i have 2x httpd.conf file and 2x ports.conf and it says cant open password from httpd
[13:04] <asddda> what shoud i do
[13:04] <tomahawks> could the problem be that those are 2x ?
[14:36] <XSevenX> hello
[14:38] <XSevenX> I just installed Ubuntu yesterday, and struggled to understand anything about what I was doing
[14:38] <XSevenX> I've finally gotten upgraded to 12.04, and now I don't have any clue what I'm doing
[14:39] <XSevenX> I have never used a Linux/Unix based system, and I don't understand using all the commands in the terminal
[14:39] <XSevenX> It seems as though every time I think I'm getting somewhere, I just figure out that I need to do 20 or 30 more things in order to get to where I need to be
[14:40] <XSevenX> I've tried using application repositories (?), and going through the software center, attempting to install different applications, and I don't even know how to install Ubuntu onto my hard drive.
[14:41] <XSevenX> I purchased all of the parts to build a brand new system about a week ago, and didn't have $150+ to buy Windows, and I refused to use Vista ever again
[14:42] <XSevenX> so I planned to use Ubuntu 12.04, had burned it to a DVD-RW, but then later found out that my DVD-RW doesn't want to read the disc that I burned the OS to anymore
[14:42] <XSevenX> So a friend gave me a copy of 9.04 on a CD, and I've upgraded from there, and placed the installation of Ubuntu on a USB flash drive
[14:42] <XSevenX> I have no clue how to do a full installation onto my HDD (because I think that may be giving me some of my issues) and this is becoming very frustrating that I can't just get to where I want to go
[14:43] <XSevenX> The only thing I intended to use this PC for was gaming
[14:44] <XSevenX> It became very obvious that I didn't do nearly enough research prior to this, and I had no idea that this OS would be so cumbersome, and frustrating to navigate. I mean, I have to tell it to save a place for an application to be downloaded, and then manually execute the download from the selected destination, and then manually tell the system how to install the program?
[14:51] <XSevenX> this is where I listed everything I was having problems with the first time
[14:51] <XSevenX> I'm at a complete loss
[14:52] <cortman> OK
[14:52] <cortman> IRC takes patience
[14:52] <cortman> So you're unable to install from the flash drive?
[14:52] <XSevenX> I don't know how to even go about it
[14:52] <cortman> It has 12.04 on the flash drive?
[14:52] <XSevenX> it's running the OS from the flash drive right now
[14:52] <XSevenX> I have verified this by shutting down, and removing the USB drive- it then was unable to boot or find "GRUB" or whatever it's called
[14:53] <XSevenX> as far as I know the HDD is currently completely empty
[14:53] <XSevenX> I had previously had 9.04 fully installed on the HDD though, and then it cleared the HDD, and installed the OS onto the flash drive
[14:53] <cortman> Don't you get a splash screen at startup that says "Install Ubuntu" or "Try Ubuntu"?
[14:53] <XSevenX> no
[14:53] <XSevenX> it boots straight into Ubuntu
[14:54] <XSevenX> I don't know anything about partitions, except that I once had to delete one when I was removing Windows 98 to install Windows XP about 12 years ago
[14:54] <cortman> how did you install the OS on the flash drive?
[14:54] <XSevenX> when I upgraded from 9.04, it asked if I wanted to upgrade it onto the HDD, or the flash drive
[14:55] <XSevenX> but I didn't understand how it would upgrade from the HDD, if it had to clear the HDD to upgrade in the first place
[14:57] <XSevenX> before upgrading from 9.04
[14:57] <cortman> Do you still have an Ubuntu 12.04 ISO image?
[14:57] <XSevenX> yes
[14:57] <XSevenX> I had wanted to do a direct upgrade to 12.04
[14:57] <XSevenX> on a clean partition
[14:57] <XSevenX> but I didn't understand how to get my HDD ready
[14:57] <XSevenX> and I wasn't sure if it was reading my USB drive properly at the time
[14:58] <cortman> What you need is *bootable* media
[14:58] <cortman> That means a flash drive, a dvd, a cd, one of those
[14:58] <XSevenX> I have a flash drive
[14:58] <cortman> Your existing flash drive just has an installation on it apparently
[14:58] <cortman> You need to burn the ISO image to one of those
[14:58] <XSevenX> I have the 12.04 ISO
[14:58] <XSevenX> and I unpacked it onto the USB drive
[14:59] <XSevenX> but when I tried to assign the device to boot first from BIOS
[14:59] <XSevenX> I got an error message
[14:59] <XSevenX> it would then just continue to boot to 9.04
[14:59] <cortman> If you don't get an option to install ubuntu anywhere, you have not created bootable media.
[15:00] <cortman> Have you searched in the dash for "Install"?
[15:00] <XSevenX> no
[15:01] <XSevenX> there is just a folder called Install
[15:01] <XSevenX> which has one file called mt86plus inside of it
[15:02] <cortman> And you have no working system on the computer HDD itself?
[15:02] <XSevenX> I assume that I don't
[15:03] <XSevenX> I don't even know how to check if I would or not
[15:03] <cortman> pull out all removable media and boot up the computer?
[15:03] <XSevenX> that's what I tried before and it wouldn't boot up
[15:03] <XSevenX> I'll brb
[15:06] <XSevenX> There is no bootable media on the HDD
[15:06] <XSevenX> without the USB drive it cannot boot at all
[15:06] <cortman> No, you mean there is no installed system on the HDD
[15:07] <cortman> Do you have another flash drive?
[15:07] <XSevenX> no
[15:08] <cortman> A CD-R?
[15:08] <XSevenX> no
[15:08]  * cortman sighs
[15:09] <XSevenX> I am likely just going to delete everything off of the flash drive, and then put a fresh 12.04 installation on it and go from there
[15:10] <XSevenX> but if that doesn't fix all the errors I'm having, then I'm still at a loss
[15:10] <cortman> how are you going to do that if you have no system on the computer? Do you have a second computer?
[15:10] <XSevenX> I have four computers
[15:10] <cortman> Running windows?
[15:10] <XSevenX> yes
[15:10] <XSevenX> Windows 7, and XP
[15:10] <cortman> oh
[15:10] <cortman> it becomes easy then
[15:11] <XSevenX> I wasn't about to pay $150 for another license, and XP 64-bit is over $200..
[15:11] <cortman> here's what you need to do
[15:11] <cortman> Download Linux Live USB Creator- http://www.linuxliveusb.com/
[15:11] <cortman> It's a fantastic piece of software
[15:11] <cortman> use it to burn the ISO image to the flash drive
[15:11] <cortman> That will create a bootable flash drive
[15:12] <XSevenX> Okay, because what I was trying obviously wasn't working
[15:12] <cortman> From which installing Ubuntu will be simply clicking the button that says "Install Ubuntu"
[15:12] <XSevenX> I tried to make a bootable flash drive in the same way you'd make a bootable CD/DVD
[15:12] <cortman> Yes
[15:12] <XSevenX> my next problem is with applications
[15:12] <cortman> Yeah that won't work. Use LiLi.
[15:12] <XSevenX> I think if I can get past that I'll know what I'm doing from there
[15:13] <cortman> applications?
[15:13] <XSevenX> I tried to go to the Adobe website and download (and install) Flash player updates
[15:13] <XSevenX> well that didn't work
[15:13] <XSevenX> it asks me what application to use to open it
[15:13] <cortman> No it won't
[15:13] <XSevenX> so I followed the wiki instructions regarding.. that
[15:13] <XSevenX> I went to the software center
[15:13] <XSevenX> I went into edit -> software sources
[15:13] <cortman> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[15:14] <XSevenX> yeah and I tried using the terminal commmands like that
[15:14] <XSevenX> and it gives me an error message
[15:14] <XSevenX> that it doesn't exist
[15:14] <cortman> need to run sudo apt-get update first
[15:16] <XSevenX> okay I guess it updated it now
[15:17] <cortman> Well you probably want to do that when you get the system installed if you're just going to wipe the flash drive anyway.
[15:17] <XSevenX> I just want to get a better grasp on how to install and use applications before I do anything
[15:18] <cortman> Ok sure
[15:18] <XSevenX> I've already spent 15 hours+ trying to figure out what the hell I'm doing
[15:18] <XSevenX> and the only thing I plan to use this PC for is Steam games, and League of Legends
[15:18] <cortman> no experience with steam
[15:18] <cortman> not a gamer
[15:18] <cortman> but I've heard that can be a hairball too. Read up on it
[15:18] <XSevenX> I tried to go through and install winelol and couldn't figure that out, and Wine keeps giving me error messages when I try to install it from the Software Center
[15:19] <XSevenX> I guess I thought Ubuntu would be a low-resource OS like XP, and I could get the most out of my system with it
[15:19] <XSevenX> I knew before hand that Linux had compatibility issues with Windows/.exe games
[15:20] <XSevenX> I just didn't understand it would be this bad
[15:20] <cortman> Ubuntu isn't low-resource any more
[15:20] <cortman> Lubuntu and Xubuntu are
[15:20] <cortman> or Bodhilinux
[15:20] <XSevenX> hmm
[15:20] <cortman> (which is Ubuntu based_
[15:20] <cortman> )
[15:20] <XSevenX> that's another thing that confused me
[15:20] <cortman> if it's an old computer I would NOT recommend putting straight ubuntu on it
[15:20] <cortman> I would use Lubuntu 12.10
[15:20] <XSevenX> while just looking around for answers, all I see is all of these different Linux based systems
[15:20] <cortman> It's really lightweight and IMO really, really good looking too
[15:21] <XSevenX> well this is a brand new systemm
[15:21] <cortman> Yep. Welcome to Linux
[15:21] <XSevenX> Intel i7 3.6GHz quadcore
[15:21] <XSevenX> MSI Z77 motherboard
[15:21] <XSevenX> 750W Rosewill power supply (and matching case)
[15:22] <cortman> If you have RAM to match that CPU Ubuntu should run just fine
[15:22] <XSevenX> 32GB of RAm
[15:22] <cortman> lol good grief
[15:22] <XSevenX> but I've been trying to get this PC for years
[15:22] <XSevenX> I paid $455 for everything
[15:22] <cortman> ?
[15:23] <XSevenX> because budget was a huge concern
[15:23] <XSevenX> after I realized I'd have to pay so much for Windows
[15:23] <XSevenX> I just wouldn't be able to buy the parts I wanted
[15:23] <XSevenX> I make almost exactly as much as I need from work to survive
[15:23] <XSevenX> so I don't buy anything I don't need, unless i save for it for a long time
[15:24] <cortman> Sure, just understand that Linux *is not* Windows
[15:24] <XSevenX> I understand that, I just want to do some pretty simple things and it seems to be overwhelming
[15:24] <XSevenX> I also read that in order to use ...
[15:24] <XSevenX> I can't even remember what they're called
[15:25] <XSevenX> the links you put into Software Sources to get an application
[15:25] <XSevenX> some website said that I needed a launchpad key
[15:25] <XSevenX> and some kind of signed signature
[15:25] <XSevenX> and I had to sign a contract (?) in order to use them
[15:25] <cortman> What? For what software?
[15:26] <XSevenX> for any software that I download with launchpad
[15:26] <XSevenX> or from launchpad
[15:26] <XSevenX> I don't know wtf
[15:26] <cortman> That'd be news to me
[15:26] <cortman> AFAIK you just need to add the PPA and install.
[15:27] <XSevenX> I have the PPA in for winelol, and when I tell the terminal to install, it says it doesn't exist
[15:27] <XSevenX> oh I see
[15:27] <XSevenX> after you input PPA repositories you need to run an update in the terminal?
[15:27] <XSevenX> sudo apt-get update?
[15:27] <cortman> Right, exaclty
[15:27] <cortman> *exactly
[15:27] <XSevenX> because now it's working fine
[15:28] <cortman> apt-get update updates the software source list
[15:28] <XSevenX> I assumed that because there was no "Apply" button on the software source list, that it was automatically applied as I input the data
[15:28] <XSevenX> because I had noticed that in other  features of Ubuntu, this was the case
[15:29] <XSevenX> you would think they would have this information immediately at hand when starting Ubuntu for the first time...
[15:29] <XSevenX> I don't even know where to access the help menu anymore in 12.04
[15:29] <XSevenX> and I do not like that they removed the drop-down lists that were on the taskbar in 9.04
[15:30] <holstein> i find XFCE to be most like gnome2 was, if thats what you are looking for
[15:31] <XSevenX> so the layout used in Ubuntu 9.04 was called GNOME2, and the layout/UI they have for 12.04 is...?
[15:31] <XSevenX> I knew the name of it but now I can't remember
[15:31] <holstein> well, to be more precise.. its a desktop envoronment
[15:32] <XSevenX> oh okay
[15:32] <holstein> XSevenX: gnome was what ubuntu used.. and customized
[15:32] <holstein> XSevenX: different distos using gnome2 would, and could have different implementations of gnome
[15:33] <holstein> XSevenX: cannonical is doing what it always did in this regard.. providing the most recent verion of gnome.. its just a different version from upstream
[15:33] <holstein> the upstream changes didnt line up with the direction they wanted to go in, and customizing it further, or making their own were options... so they created and developed unity
[15:34] <holstein> unity is open, and anyone else (any other distro) can have it as well...
[15:34] <holstein> unity is what it is.. and i find it faster and more useable all the time, though, i personally dont use it on my systems
[15:36] <holstein> in this regard, ubuntu is the same as it always has been as well.. its a release that can be customized in any way the end user chooses... you can install XFCE for example, which has a lot of the same look/feel that gnome2 did.. and it is GTK as well, and runs the same applications with similar look/feel
[15:36] <holstein> XSevenX: one easy way to look around and test is to use the live CD's... xubuntu, lubuntu... other distros with other alternatives... etc
[15:38] <XSevenX> well
[15:39] <XSevenX> I don't have a lot of requirements to be met, I think
[15:39] <XSevenX> I just want to be able to stream videos from sites like youtube, and hulu
[15:39] <holstein> if you want a traditional menu. then you can have one
[15:39] <holstein> if thats what you mean by "the drop down thing in the panel in 9.04".. the traditiona menu is gone
[15:39] <XSevenX> play some select games (which I have found listings showing compatibility vs. Ubuntu so there won't be much problem there)
[15:40] <holstein> xfce,and lxde both have that... XFCE is in xubuntu... LXDE lubuntu
[15:40] <XSevenX> it doesn't matter, I just preferred the menu
[15:40] <holstein> sure.. and all i can say is, if you want one, you can have one
[15:42] <XSevenX> well I guess I'm going to make my live USB for 12.04 now
[15:42] <XSevenX> thanks for the help
[15:42] <cortman> no problem
[16:42] <tomas_> hi, i delete my admin account :D how to fix
[16:42] <tomas_> ctrl + alt + f1 i can login there
[16:43] <tomas_> no elseway
[17:00] <tomas_> so my real admin is dissapeared from my login screen
[17:04] <holstein> tomas_: login from the recovery console, and "fix" it
[17:14] <tomas_> i cant login recovery mode
[17:14] <tomas_> tryed shift, shift + tab,  esc
[17:15] <holstein> tomas_: you dont see a kernel list in grub?
[17:16] <tomas_> how can i see grub ?
[17:16] <tomas_> computer just start up to login screen
[17:16] <tomas_> loading ubuntu there is background and . . . . . . . .       and then next there is login screen
[17:16] <tomas_> where should be that grub ?
[17:17] <holstein> tomas_: i always unhide grub.. but if its hidden, usually tapping shift after the bios screen shows it
[17:17] <tomas_> wwwwooow
[17:17] <tomas_> i got in
[17:17] <tomas_> <3
[17:17] <tomas_> what to do next ?
[17:18] <holstein> boot the recovery environment, and get to a root shell and "fix" what you broke
[17:18] <tomas_> option "root "?
[17:18] <holstein> ?
[17:18] <tomas_> from the list
[17:18] <tomas_> i have resume, clean
[17:18] <holstein> tomas_: you can start reading me what exactly is in that list
[17:18] <tomas_> ...
[17:18] <holstein> otherwise, its "root" console you want
[17:18] <holstein> you want a terminal with root access
[17:18] <holstein> there are several ways to get that
[17:19] <tomas_> resume, clean, dgkp, failsafeX, fsck, grub , network, root, system-summary
[17:19] <holstein> so, from that list
[17:19] <holstein> root, most fist the term 'root" i gave
[17:19] <tomas_> i take root
[17:19] <tomas_> ok now im there
[17:19] <tomas_> what should i do ?
[17:19] <holstein> i would select 'root' and see if its like the root option i am suggesting where you will have the sudo root access you removed
[17:19] <holstein> tomas_: ?
[17:19] <holstein> tomas_: fix what you broke
[17:19] <tomas_> im in root
[17:20] <tomas_> root@xxx:~#
[17:20] <holstein> if you removed the sudo access of the user you have, then here, you have root access
[17:20] <holstein> if the question was "i broke my admin account".. here, you have admin access and can "fix" what you broke
[17:21] <tomas_> i make new question. i deleted my admin account from "own" and there is left 2 accounts in "other" account section.
[17:21] <tomas_> cant login only with quest
[17:21] <tomas_> can*
[17:22] <holstein> http://askubuntu.com/questions/70236/create-an-administrator-user-in-command-line
[17:22] <tomas_> so that was the problem, maybe i said it too difficult and unclearly
[17:23] <tomas_> but if it already exist there cos im logged it now with that name in root in recovery mode
[17:23] <tomas_> ?
[17:23] <holstein> tomas_: there is no root user
[17:23] <holstein> only users with admin access
[17:23] <holstein> !root
[17:23] <ubot2> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[17:23] <tomas_> i know that password
[17:23] <tomas_> and im logged in
[17:23] <tomas_> thats not the problem
[17:23] <holstein> if you broke that funtionality, we can get that back here in the root console
[17:23] <holstein> tomas_: no, you are not
[17:24] <holstein> you are in the root console from recovery
[17:24] <holstein> you didnt put in any password
[17:24] <tomas_> but it asked password
[17:24] <tomas_> and i put
[17:24] <holstein> i dont hink so
[17:24] <holstein> if it did, you are not where i suggested, nor do you have the problem i thought you had
[17:24] <holstein> i would elaborate for one of the other volunteers, and try #ubuntu
[17:24] <holstein> i must be off.. good luck!
[17:25] <tomas_> and in ubuntu where is accounts.. if i make something it asks my "real admin" password and that "real admin" name is shown only in there.. not in users list
[20:01] <ecen> Hello! I recently installed Ubuntu for the first time and to do this I used the Windows Ubuntu installer for version 12.10. I did this on a somewhat old laptop to test out Ubuntu, hoping it to be faster than w7 (64-bit) which is the native OS. However, so far, it's only been way slower at about everything. As well as this, applications tend to crash and freeze alot (especially the system options app when I try to open user
[20:01] <ecen> account settings). So, is it possible to somehow increase performance, atleast to the same speed as win7, and is there any help for repeating app-crashes?
[20:15] <ecen> I'd be happy to contribute with more information regarding the problem too, if I know what could be of use! (I'll be on from another device for a bit)
[20:55] <XSevenX> I am pretty much ready to give up on this OS
[20:55] <XSevenX> all I want to do is play my games, and I have spent the last 3 days jumping through hoops to get this crap to even run
[20:56] <XSevenX> every single time that I think I'm getting somewhere, I find out that I have to learn even more than I did the last time, and type out even more lines of script just to get a PROGRA TO FUNCTION
[20:56] <XSevenX> WHY DO I HAVE TO INPUT LITERALLY EVERYTHING MANUALLY INTO THIS SYSTEM FOR IT TO DO ANYTHING?
[20:57] <XSevenX> I just want to play my game, I don't want to program my fucking computer anymore.
[20:57] <XSevenX> I finally get a stable Ubuntu installation onto my HDD, and I get partitions set properly, and I figure out how to get my updates done for all my drivers, and everything seems to be finally working smoothly
[20:58] <XSevenX> I get Wine and Winetricks installed, and I go to start the installation for League of Legends through a forum post I had found with a step-by-step how to do it
[20:58] <XSevenX> when I find out that I have to go through a huge mass of input to get Wine to work with my 86_64x installation
[21:00] <XSevenX> I don't even know if I'm doing anything wrong, because I know so little about what I'm doing to begin with that I would not figure any of this out if there were not articles, and information available to me specifically telling me exactly what I have to do to go from A to B.
[21:00] <XSevenX> I have seen that people say this OS is "intuitive", and I have yet to see what that even means
[21:02] <XSevenX> I just don't think that intuitive = $ line entry script {{ names of things }} = ? what the hell is even going on/what/why/when/where/
[21:02] <XSevenX> in what part of someones brain do they think that a line of abstract words to input a command sequence is "intuitive"?
[21:03] <XSevenX> it's as if I've stumbled upon a project started by someone several days ago, even though this OS is supposedly "8 years old"
[21:04] <XSevenX> 8 years of ridiculously assbackwards implementation that does not offer decent support for literally any commercial product?
[21:59] <geirha> Heh, buys crappy game, blames OS.
[22:05] <ECEN_SILVER> He might have some point though - of course I'm not the one to say anything, I just got here, to Linux.
[22:16] <geirha> Well, if the game was written for linux in the first place, it would be point and click all the way.
[22:19] <geirha> wine could be more user friendly, sure, but there's no point in putting down hours into that now. Best get it to reliably run windows programs and games first.
[22:27] <ECEN_SILVER> Ya. I wish more things were developed for Linux. Personally I don't want to stay with microsoft anymore.
[23:20] <madsailor> ECEN_SILVER,  I'm sure games will get more 'nix attention now that Steam for Linux is released
[23:23] <ECEN_SILVER> Yea, I really hope so!
[23:59] <ecen> Hello again guys, I recently installed Ubuntu 12.10 (first time Linux) through the windows installer on this laptop of mine. Bad thing is, Ubuntu is running much slower than native win7 64-bit, and I'm getting lots of app freezes. Any ideas?