ubottu | Kartagis called the ops in #ubuntu (alumno2314) | 09:11 |
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bazhang | <samburg> hey guys where is daniel.holbach | 16:36 |
bazhang | dholbach iirc | 16:36 |
DJones | Yep it is | 16:37 |
k1l | yep | 16:37 |
bazhang | aww he quit | 16:37 |
ikonia | it maybe the same guy who likes to make jokes about Daniel | 16:37 |
ikonia | asks where he is then says "oh, I thought he was in a gay bar with the fags" | 16:38 |
ikonia | he's been active again recently. | 16:38 |
bazhang | samburg (47e979ad@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.233.121.173) | 16:38 |
bazhang | looks familiar | 16:39 |
bazhang | <valter> i have really old Ubuntu Linux 5.1 on my mac.cant get newer one either | 17:50 |
bazhang | oh yeah | 17:50 |
bazhang | !5.10 | 17:51 |
ubottu | Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy Badger) was the third release of Ubuntu. End Of Life: April 13, 2007. See !eol and !upgrade for more details. | 17:51 |
bazhang | surely thats a troll | 18:03 |
genii-around | Maybe not. I know a couple people that are still running 5.04 | 18:04 |
k1l | im not sure if just newbiw or troll | 18:04 |
k1l | *futurama meme* | 18:04 |
agu10^ | * #ubuntu :Cannot send to channel | 19:42 |
ikonia | not again | 19:42 |
ikonia | agu10^: one moment please | 19:42 |
ikonia | this time for arguing with a user | 19:44 |
ikonia | agu10^: looks like you got banned....again, | 19:44 |
agu10^ | D: | 19:44 |
ikonia | ? | 19:44 |
agu10^ | i don't know what happened exactly | 19:44 |
ikonia | you didn't know last time either | 19:44 |
agu10^ | i don't usually argue at all | 19:44 |
ikonia | I suggest you start paying attention to what you are doing | 19:45 |
agu10^ | not sure what you mean by arguing | 19:45 |
agu10^ | if you tell me what i'm doing wrong, i'll fix it | 19:45 |
ikonia | I told you last time | 19:45 |
agu10^ | yes, last time yes | 19:45 |
ikonia | agu10^: looks like you're just giving random advice this time | 19:45 |
agu10^ | but this time i have no idea | 19:46 |
ikonia | you lead a user down bad advice, then told him he'd screwed his install | 19:46 |
ikonia | which was just wrong | 19:47 |
ikonia | then when you where asked to stop it (giving advice, causing a problem) you responded with "ughh" | 19:47 |
ikonia | so I guess the operator had jus had enough of you and removed you from the channel | 19:47 |
ikonia | do you need more detail ? | 19:49 |
agu10^ | got disconnected, sorry | 19:53 |
agu10^ | weird. I am unable to join #ubuntu now. ?? | 19:53 |
ikonia | no | 19:53 |
ikonia | you shouldn't be able to | 19:53 |
agu10^ | i'm not sure what is the problem with ubuntu ops with me | 19:55 |
ikonia | agu10^: you give bad advice | 19:56 |
ikonia | then tell a user his system is screwed up | 19:56 |
agu10^ | really? | 19:56 |
ikonia | yes | 19:56 |
agu10^ | *bad* advice? :( They are based on personal experience! | 19:57 |
ikonia | agu10^: no, | 19:57 |
ikonia | agu10^: man /proc/sys/vm/dirty_writeback_centisecs | 19:57 |
ikonia | agu10^: does that command work ? | 19:57 |
agu10^ | what is that?? | 19:58 |
ikonia | agu10^: what you told a user to do | 19:58 |
agu10^ | in #ubuntu ? | 19:58 |
ikonia | agu10^: yes | 19:58 |
agu10^ | let me see my logs | 19:58 |
ikonia | 2013-02-20T08:01:05 <agu10^> man /proc/sys/vm/dirty_writeback_centisecs | 19:58 |
agu10^ | so i can get the context | 19:58 |
ikonia | it doesn't matter | 19:58 |
ikonia | it's a nonsense command | 19:59 |
ikonia | and when they user asked you what it did, you told him to "google it" | 19:59 |
ikonia | so you made up a command, and when the user was surprised, you told him to google it | 19:59 |
agu10^ | i may not have realized he was asking about my comment | 20:00 |
agu10^ | i was probably angry at that user | 20:00 |
ikonia | agu10^: he asked you specific about that command | 20:00 |
ikonia | and just because you are angry does not mean you should give them nonsense commands | 20:00 |
ikonia | later in the same day, you tell a user to upgrade his system from 12.04 to 12.10 by doing "apt-get upgrade" | 20:00 |
agu10^ | just using intuitive deduction | 20:01 |
ikonia | when it doesn't work, you tell him "you've screwed your install then" | 20:01 |
ikonia | then stop | 20:01 |
ikonia | this also is nonsense | 20:01 |
ikonia | and bad advice | 20:01 |
ikonia | you don't appear to know what you are doing | 20:01 |
ikonia | and you are causing people problems by giving them bad information | 20:01 |
ikonia | and then telling them to "google it" when your bad information doesn't work | 20:01 |
agu10^ | i should probably learn more before trying to help | 20:02 |
ikonia | yes, I think you should too | 20:02 |
agu10^ | i just thought maybe since they were basic problems i could help with the limited knowledge i possess | 20:02 |
ikonia | agu10^: but you are just making stuff up | 20:02 |
agu10^ | but perhaps it's still not enought for those matters | 20:02 |
ikonia | it's nothing to do with limited knowledge | 20:02 |
ikonia | it's just made up | 20:02 |
agu10^ | I google the problems and find stuff, which i comment | 20:02 |
agu10^ | I'm no expert | 20:03 |
agu10^ | i copy paste | 20:03 |
ikonia | I'm sorry, but google doesn't say "if apt-get upgrade doesn't work, your install is screwed" | 20:03 |
ikonia | agu10^: the bottom line is, you're causing a problem in the channel.......again | 20:03 |
ikonia | and yet again you don't know why | 20:03 |
ikonia | agu10^: I'm happy to remove the ban, but I really need you to think had about what you say in the channel | 20:04 |
ikonia | if you don't know the answer, don't speak, don't google, don't guess, just don't speak | 20:04 |
ikonia | agu10^: can you keep within that rule ? | 20:05 |
agu10^ | yes. i'm sorry | 20:06 |
agu10^ | :/ | 20:06 |
ikonia | ok, no problem | 20:06 |
ikonia | no harm done | 20:06 |
ikonia | agu10^: I've removed the ban in #ubuntu | 20:07 |
ikonia | please try to remember what we have spoken about in here | 20:07 |
agu10^ | yes. thanks! | 20:07 |
agu10^ | i will post the google links next time | 20:07 |
ikonia | no !!! | 20:08 |
ikonia | what did I say to do if you don't know the answer | 20:08 |
agu10^ | ok :/ | 20:09 |
agu10^ | leave it to another user | 20:09 |
ikonia | just don't speak | 20:09 |
ikonia | agu10^: if you don't know - don't speak, don't guess, don't google, don't post links, | 20:09 |
ikonia | agu10^: clear ? | 20:10 |
agu10^ | ok | 20:11 |
agu10^ | (: | 20:11 |
ikonia | thank you | 20:11 |
ikonia | so please /part this channel, and good luck in #ubuntu | 20:11 |
agu10^ | thanks. you're welcome ikonia ! | 20:12 |
agu10^ | * #ubuntu :Cannot send to channel | 20:13 |
Pici | agu10^: can you try again? | 20:15 |
agu10^ | ok | 20:15 |
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ikonia | Pici: did I miss a ban? | 21:38 |
k1l_ | agu10^: if its sorted out please part this channel. | 21:39 |
Pici | ikonia: yes, a mute | 21:42 |
ikonia | ah, saw the ban, didn't see the mute | 21:47 |
ikonia | thanks Pici | 21:47 |
Corey | Should probably nominate a few more ops for #ubuntu-phone. | 22:37 |
Corey | Right now it's popey and freenode staff. | 22:37 |
k1l_ | yep just saw that because someone is complaining in u-irc | 22:37 |
Myrtti | adding ubuntu member cloak might be a good idea | 22:39 |
Myrtti | then again it might not | 22:40 |
k1l_ | <llstarks> I EAT BABIES BECAUSE THERE ARE NO OPS HERE :/ | 22:45 |
AlanBell | k1l_: yeah, just talking to popey about the op situation in -phone at the moment | 22:53 |
k1l_ | at least the freenode staff is included so Myrtti can hopp in :) | 22:53 |
Myrtti | or Corey, or Fuchs, or many other staff members | 22:54 |
Fuchs | I think Corey was already looking into it? | 22:55 |
popey | hello | 22:57 |
AlanBell | hi popey :) | 22:57 |
AlanBell | so popey wants some help detrolling -phone for a few hours | 22:57 |
popey | I appreciate that I gave no notice. | 22:57 |
popey | Kinda didn't expect it to turn into #ubuntu-release-party today | 22:58 |
Corey | It happens. :-) | 22:58 |
AlanBell | I expect it to be a normal channel on an ongoing basis, but it is busy busy busy | 22:58 |
Corey | As a longer term project you might consider adding ops who aren't "you plus freenode staff." :-) | 22:58 |
popey | We aim to merge -phone & -tablet into -touch | 22:58 |
AlanBell | so basically all we can do popey is detroll it, but we are not going to be able to support people really | 22:58 |
popey | but thats later when it calms | 22:58 |
elky | something got released? | 22:58 |
k1l_ | i could keep an eye on it since i idle there and did ask a few things. but i wanted to go to bed in near time since its midnight here. | 22:59 |
AlanBell | something did, but no countdown for code :( | 22:59 |
popey | we did release on time when we said we would tho ☺ | 22:59 |
popey | (which makes a change) | 22:59 |
AlanBell | releasing things \o/ | 22:59 |
elky | the tablet thing was days ago. i missed something? | 22:59 |
AlanBell | so, shout if you want flags I guess | 22:59 |
popey | the tablet thing days ago didn't release code | 23:00 |
popey | well, I thought I had setup the flags right | 23:00 |
k1l_ | elky: today there was a sourcecode and images release for that tablet and phone | 23:00 |
popey | tell me if i haven't | 23:00 |
elky | OOH | 23:00 |
elky | k1l_, i haven't had a chance to look at all the things i'm not paid to look at yet, hadn't seen that yet | 23:00 |
AlanBell | k1l_: you have flags | 23:00 |
k1l_ | AlanBell: popey ok, thx | 23:01 |
elky | also, unity icons just all went stupid on me while i was not-idle. disappearing to reboot | 23:01 |
AlanBell | popey: yeah, flags are fine for the IRCC account, and I can add operators, they just have to wave ;) | 23:01 |
AlanBell | I will keep a bit of an eye on it too | 23:01 |
popey | Thank you! | 23:02 |
Corey | AlanBell: I can do it on a temp basis if you're taking nominations. | 23:02 |
k1l_ | need to link the !guidelines in topic? (since someone pointed that missing) | 23:02 |
Corey | But I'm distracted on and off throughout the day. | 23:02 |
popey | obviously in the $futur we won't need a separate channel, and everyone can get support for their phone, tablet, tv, desktop or cloud, right in #ubuntu | 23:02 |
popey | *ahem* | 23:02 |
AlanBell | Corey: you have flags | 23:02 |
AlanBell | popey: yeah, when we know how to support it :) | 23:02 |
Corey | AlanBell: Uh... | 23:02 |
popey | Welcome to my world. | 23:02 |
AlanBell | I heard canonical were going to give a tablet to all operators . . . | 23:03 |
Corey | AlanBell: You owe me a beer the next time we're in the same part of the world. I *hate* that misspelling of my name. :-) | 23:03 |
k1l_ | AlanBell: hehe | 23:03 |
Corey | It's also a different account. | 23:03 |
Corey | So you probably want to fix that. :-) | 23:03 |
AlanBell | gah | 23:03 |
elky | hahaha | 23:03 |
elky | ok, really rebooting now | 23:03 |
AlanBell | Corey: try now | 23:04 |
Corey | AlanBell: Much better, thanks. :-) | 23:04 |
k1l_ | elky: but its really just a demo so far. but the impact is huge on the mobile ubuntu guis | 23:04 |
Corey | I played with a ubuntu phone device at FOSDEM. | 23:04 |
Corey | Laggy and slow, if they can fix that it has potential, but seems very androidy. | 23:05 |
popey | i didnt think we had any ubuntu phones at fosdem | 23:05 |
popey | interesting | 23:05 |
Corey | Er... | 23:05 |
Corey | I may be an idiot. | 23:05 |
Corey | That... may have been Firefox Mobile OS. | 23:05 |
Fuchs | it was, and you are. | 23:05 |
Corey | Okay, there might be a Ubuntu phone at SCaLE tomorrow. I'll be back afterwards to complain about how laggy / slow / androidlike it is. | 23:06 |
Fuchs | no, actually you were drunk. Sorry for calling you an idiot | 23:06 |
Corey | Fuchs: Not *at* the conference I wasn't! | 23:06 |
k1l_ | on the nexus4 today it was nice. real snappy and fluid. (but the nexus4 is a real highclass phone) but needs alot of tweaks and bug testing though | 23:06 |
AlanBell | it is half term at the moment so if I break the Nexus 7 I will get shouted at a lot | 23:07 |
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