[09:11] Kartagis called the ops in #ubuntu (alumno2314) === Mamarok is now known as Guest40984 === k1l_ is now known as k1l === Guest40984 is now known as Mamarok [16:36] hey guys where is daniel.holbach [16:36] dholbach iirc [16:37] Yep it is [16:37] yep [16:37] aww he quit [16:37] it maybe the same guy who likes to make jokes about Daniel [16:38] asks where he is then says "oh, I thought he was in a gay bar with the fags" [16:38] he's been active again recently. [16:38] samburg (47e979ad@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.233.121.173) [16:39] looks familiar [17:50] i have really old Ubuntu Linux 5.1 on my mac.cant get newer one either [17:50] oh yeah [17:51] !5.10 [17:51] Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy Badger) was the third release of Ubuntu. End Of Life: April 13, 2007. See !eol and !upgrade for more details. [18:03] surely thats a troll [18:04] Maybe not. I know a couple people that are still running 5.04 [18:04] im not sure if just newbiw or troll [18:04] *futurama meme* [19:42] * #ubuntu :Cannot send to channel [19:42] not again [19:42] agu10^: one moment please [19:44] this time for arguing with a user [19:44] agu10^: looks like you got banned....again, [19:44] D: [19:44] ? [19:44] i don't know what happened exactly [19:44] you didn't know last time either [19:44] i don't usually argue at all [19:45] I suggest you start paying attention to what you are doing [19:45] not sure what you mean by arguing [19:45] if you tell me what i'm doing wrong, i'll fix it [19:45] I told you last time [19:45] yes, last time yes [19:45] agu10^: looks like you're just giving random advice this time [19:46] but this time i have no idea [19:46] you lead a user down bad advice, then told him he'd screwed his install [19:47] which was just wrong [19:47] then when you where asked to stop it (giving advice, causing a problem) you responded with "ughh" [19:47] so I guess the operator had jus had enough of you and removed you from the channel [19:49] do you need more detail ? [19:53] got disconnected, sorry [19:53] weird. I am unable to join #ubuntu now. ?? [19:53] no [19:53] you shouldn't be able to [19:55] i'm not sure what is the problem with ubuntu ops with me [19:56] agu10^: you give bad advice [19:56] then tell a user his system is screwed up [19:56] really? [19:56] yes [19:57] *bad* advice? :( They are based on personal experience! [19:57] agu10^: no, [19:57] agu10^: man /proc/sys/vm/dirty_writeback_centisecs [19:57] agu10^: does that command work ? [19:58] what is that?? [19:58] agu10^: what you told a user to do [19:58] in #ubuntu ? [19:58] agu10^: yes [19:58] let me see my logs [19:58] 2013-02-20T08:01:05 man /proc/sys/vm/dirty_writeback_centisecs [19:58] so i can get the context [19:58] it doesn't matter [19:59] it's a nonsense command [19:59] and when they user asked you what it did, you told him to "google it" [19:59] so you made up a command, and when the user was surprised, you told him to google it [20:00] i may not have realized he was asking about my comment [20:00] i was probably angry at that user [20:00] agu10^: he asked you specific about that command [20:00] and just because you are angry does not mean you should give them nonsense commands [20:00] later in the same day, you tell a user to upgrade his system from 12.04 to 12.10 by doing "apt-get upgrade" [20:01] just using intuitive deduction [20:01] when it doesn't work, you tell him "you've screwed your install then" [20:01] then stop [20:01] this also is nonsense [20:01] and bad advice [20:01] you don't appear to know what you are doing [20:01] and you are causing people problems by giving them bad information [20:01] and then telling them to "google it" when your bad information doesn't work [20:02] i should probably learn more before trying to help [20:02] yes, I think you should too [20:02] i just thought maybe since they were basic problems i could help with the limited knowledge i possess [20:02] agu10^: but you are just making stuff up [20:02] but perhaps it's still not enought for those matters [20:02] it's nothing to do with limited knowledge [20:02] it's just made up [20:02] I google the problems and find stuff, which i comment [20:03] I'm no expert [20:03] i copy paste [20:03] I'm sorry, but google doesn't say "if apt-get upgrade doesn't work, your install is screwed" [20:03] agu10^: the bottom line is, you're causing a problem in the channel.......again [20:03] and yet again you don't know why [20:04] agu10^: I'm happy to remove the ban, but I really need you to think had about what you say in the channel [20:04] if you don't know the answer, don't speak, don't google, don't guess, just don't speak [20:05] agu10^: can you keep within that rule ? [20:06] yes. i'm sorry [20:06] :/ [20:06] ok, no problem [20:06] no harm done [20:07] agu10^: I've removed the ban in #ubuntu [20:07] please try to remember what we have spoken about in here [20:07] yes. thanks! [20:07] i will post the google links next time [20:08] no !!! [20:08] what did I say to do if you don't know the answer [20:09] ok :/ [20:09] leave it to another user [20:09] just don't speak [20:09] agu10^: if you don't know - don't speak, don't guess, don't google, don't post links, [20:10] agu10^: clear ? [20:11] ok [20:11] (: [20:11] thank you [20:11] so please /part this channel, and good luck in #ubuntu [20:12] thanks. you're welcome ikonia ! [20:13] * #ubuntu :Cannot send to channel [20:15] agu10^: can you try again? [20:15] ok === head_victim is now known as jared_ [21:38] Pici: did I miss a ban? [21:39] agu10^: if its sorted out please part this channel. [21:42] ikonia: yes, a mute [21:47] ah, saw the ban, didn't see the mute [21:47] thanks Pici [22:37] Should probably nominate a few more ops for #ubuntu-phone. [22:37] Right now it's popey and freenode staff. [22:37] yep just saw that because someone is complaining in u-irc [22:39] adding ubuntu member cloak might be a good idea [22:40] then again it might not [22:45] I EAT BABIES BECAUSE THERE ARE NO OPS HERE :/ [22:53] k1l_: yeah, just talking to popey about the op situation in -phone at the moment [22:53] at least the freenode staff is included so Myrtti can hopp in :) [22:54] or Corey, or Fuchs, or many other staff members [22:55] I think Corey was already looking into it? [22:57] hello [22:57] hi popey :) [22:57] so popey wants some help detrolling -phone for a few hours [22:57] I appreciate that I gave no notice. [22:58] Kinda didn't expect it to turn into #ubuntu-release-party today [22:58] It happens. :-) [22:58] I expect it to be a normal channel on an ongoing basis, but it is busy busy busy [22:58] As a longer term project you might consider adding ops who aren't "you plus freenode staff." :-) [22:58] We aim to merge -phone & -tablet into -touch [22:58] so basically all we can do popey is detroll it, but we are not going to be able to support people really [22:58] but thats later when it calms [22:58] something got released? [22:59] i could keep an eye on it since i idle there and did ask a few things. but i wanted to go to bed in near time since its midnight here. [22:59] something did, but no countdown for code :( [22:59] we did release on time when we said we would tho ☺ [22:59] (which makes a change) [22:59] releasing things \o/ [22:59] the tablet thing was days ago. i missed something? [22:59] so, shout if you want flags I guess [23:00] the tablet thing days ago didn't release code [23:00] well, I thought I had setup the flags right [23:00] elky: today there was a sourcecode and images release for that tablet and phone [23:00] tell me if i haven't [23:00] OOH [23:00] k1l_, i haven't had a chance to look at all the things i'm not paid to look at yet, hadn't seen that yet [23:00] k1l_: you have flags [23:01] AlanBell: popey ok, thx [23:01] also, unity icons just all went stupid on me while i was not-idle. disappearing to reboot [23:01] popey: yeah, flags are fine for the IRCC account, and I can add operators, they just have to wave ;) [23:01] I will keep a bit of an eye on it too [23:02] Thank you! [23:02] AlanBell: I can do it on a temp basis if you're taking nominations. [23:02] need to link the !guidelines in topic? (since someone pointed that missing) [23:02] But I'm distracted on and off throughout the day. [23:02] obviously in the $futur we won't need a separate channel, and everyone can get support for their phone, tablet, tv, desktop or cloud, right in #ubuntu [23:02] *ahem* [23:02] Corey: you have flags [23:02] popey: yeah, when we know how to support it :) [23:02] AlanBell: Uh... [23:02] Welcome to my world. [23:03] I heard canonical were going to give a tablet to all operators . . . [23:03] AlanBell: You owe me a beer the next time we're in the same part of the world. I *hate* that misspelling of my name. :-) [23:03] AlanBell: hehe [23:03] It's also a different account. [23:03] So you probably want to fix that. :-) [23:03] gah [23:03] hahaha [23:03] ok, really rebooting now [23:04] Corey: try now [23:04] AlanBell: Much better, thanks. :-) [23:04] elky: but its really just a demo so far. but the impact is huge on the mobile ubuntu guis [23:04] I played with a ubuntu phone device at FOSDEM. [23:05] Laggy and slow, if they can fix that it has potential, but seems very androidy. [23:05] i didnt think we had any ubuntu phones at fosdem [23:05] interesting [23:05] Er... [23:05] I may be an idiot. [23:05] That... may have been Firefox Mobile OS. [23:05] it was, and you are. [23:06] Okay, there might be a Ubuntu phone at SCaLE tomorrow. I'll be back afterwards to complain about how laggy / slow / androidlike it is. [23:06] no, actually you were drunk. Sorry for calling you an idiot [23:06] Fuchs: Not *at* the conference I wasn't! [23:06] on the nexus4 today it was nice. real snappy and fluid. (but the nexus4 is a real highclass phone) but needs alot of tweaks and bug testing though [23:07] it is half term at the moment so if I break the Nexus 7 I will get shouted at a lot