[00:30] <nadr> where's the beef?
[00:31] <krabador> the beef?
[00:34] <nadr> dat ubuntu beef
[00:34] <nadr> its 12:30 GMT
[00:35] <krabador> nadr, do you've a galaxy nexus?
[00:39] <dank101> :OO
[00:42] <nadr> krabador: yes
[00:44] <bobweaver> hello there I am running into some weired things when trying to cut up strings.  here is a example/  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1694839/
[00:44] <bobweaver> error is as follows
[00:44] <bobweaver> Object 19.4 has no method 'indexOf'
[00:44] <bobweaver> can not use lastIndexOf either :/
[00:45] <bobweaver> so I am just trying to cut off every thing after the Dot in 19.4
[00:45] <krabador> nadr, canonical's releases times, are ever relaxed... not clock oriented .
[00:46] <bobweaver>  I thought that    y.substring(0,y.lastIndexOf("."))   would work :/
[00:53] <bobweaver> NM I got it
[00:53] <bobweaver>       var f = (temperature * 9 / 5 + 32).toLocaleString()
[00:53] <bobweaver> return f.substring(0,f.lastIndexOf("."))
[00:54] <bobweaver> in function ^^ thanks though for looking have a good one
[01:15] <scram> Noob question...  I'm running 12.04 in a virtual machine.  Will I need to install the sdk to flash the canonical Ubuntu image on my gnex or is that just used for app development?
[01:16] <usererror> well, I think you have to be running 12.10 for app dev scram
[01:16] <usererror> or, that is what your supposed to be running anyway
[01:26] <scram> I'm well below that level of user right now . Just want to flash the image on my phone when it's released. Want to be prepared
[01:34] <dank101> well then
[01:35] <dank101> get some soda, and sit back
[02:02] <mhall119> anybody know how to set a minimum width on an Item in QML?
[02:57] <stroughtonsmith> Are we far enough into the 21st yet? :P
[03:04] <Yugge> Well, canonical is UK-based, so I doubt we will see any release until at least business hours which should be in 5 hours, but even then I doubt they will release it before lunch, this based on previous ubuntu releases which generally are released around lunch in my area (cet)
[03:04] <Yugge> I too am really excited though. :)
[03:04] <stroughtonsmith> I was mostly joking, but looking forward to it!
[03:05] <stroughtonsmith> it's 3am here now but I wouldn't imagine they'd flip the switch at 9am
[03:21] <vibhav> mhall119: ping
[05:51] <juicyjones> F5 F5 F5
[05:52] <paradoxgo> stop that. you'll break the website
[05:53] <juicyjones> ಠ_ಠ wut
[06:25] <juicyjones> F5
[06:30] <frals> mhall119: implicitWidth might due what you want, but not sure
[06:41] <zAo^> Is the display server known yet?
[06:55] <dpm> good morning all
[06:57] <bobsmith> isitoutyet
[07:02] <dholbach> good morning
[07:04] <juicyjones> hi
[07:05] <vibhav> dpm: there?
[07:05] <dpm> hi vibhav, yes, but I might not be too responsive in the next few hours. Can I help with anything?
[07:06] <vibhav> dpm: Is it possible for me to connect an app written in C to an app written in QML (with the Ubuntu SDK)
[07:07] <vibhav> (with ref. to Ubunutu Phone)
[07:07] <dpm> vibhav, it should be technically possible, but not trivial. If you need C in your app, you might want to see if you can use C++ and the Qt classes. That would make things a lot easier
[07:07] <vibhav> dpm: Ah, thanks!
[07:08] <ProGEEK> I've gotta say, the Tablet UI looks swish as, makes me wish I had an N7 or N10 device
[07:08] <RiXtEr> will the tablet os run on a Xoom ?
[07:09] <juicyjones> I'm pretty excited I have a GNex and a Nexus 7 I can spare to experiment with Ubuntu Touch
[07:09] <ProGEEK> am pretty excited too, sole reason for buying my Nexus 4
[07:10] <ProGEEK> had fingers crossed they'd release an N4 image, was ecstatic to hear they were :D
[07:10] <juicyjones> My N4 needs to stay useful as a daily phone :)
[07:10] <ProGEEK> Ditto, i'll back up my nand first though, gotta have a play though
[07:13] <juicyjones> Hopefully there'll be a torrent available for our images? That would make it easy for me at least, I can start it up on my seedbox from anywhere I happen to be and pick it up later
[07:15] <ProGEEK> gah, i hate waiting lol
[07:28] <JeroenG> hi
[07:29] <juicyjones> hello
[07:38] <Wouter___> were are the touch-developer-ubuntu-phone imgs ... can't wait to have it installed on my nexus
[07:40] <vibhav> Wouter___: Everybody's waiting impatiently here :)
[07:40] <ProGEEK> i assume they'll come up on the TouchInstallProcess page on the ubuntu wiki
[07:41] <Wouter___> :-) ...aaaaarrrrch  cant wait ;-) why is dr not countdown ....
[07:49] <schasch> yes...missing a countdown too... F5  F5  F5... :-)
[07:52] <stroughtonsmith> have a Galaxy Nexus prepped and ready; hopefully can use the Nexus 4 instead if dual booting is straightforward
[07:53] <ProGEEK> i wouldnt have thought dual booting was possible
[07:54] <stroughtonsmith> should be, get the rootfs on a loopback image and swap the recovery kernel for ubuntu
[07:54] <stroughtonsmith> but that all depends on the release :)
[07:55] <ProGEEK> totally not brave enough for that lol
[07:55] <stroughtonsmith> haha
[07:55] <ProGEEK> i like my phone not being a paperweight :p
[07:55] <Wouter___> ive hava a spare nexus... just in case ;-)
[07:56] <lilstevie> ohai stroughtonsmith
[07:56] <stroughtonsmith> hey lilstevie
[07:57] <lilstevie> madly refreshing the TouchInstallProcess page too?
[07:57] <stroughtonsmith> nonsense; IRC will tell me before it refreshes :P
[07:57] <lilstevie> haha
[07:57] <ProGEEK> wouldnt it annoy you if its a 9am release kinda thing ?
[07:57]  * lilstevie is relying on twitter to tell him
[07:58] <stroughtonsmith> I'd be surprised if it was anywhere near 9am
[07:58] <stroughtonsmith> maybe lunchtime
[07:58] <lilstevie> ProGEEK, I'm expecting midday
[07:58] <ProGEEK> wait, what timezone? lol
[07:59] <stroughtonsmith> UK time
[07:59] <lilstevie> GMT
[07:59] <lilstevie> round midnight my time
[07:59] <lilstevie> (23:00 but close enough :p)
[07:59] <ProGEEK> 1am my time
[07:59] <ProGEEK> on the 22nd lol
[07:59] <lilstevie> nz?
[08:00] <ProGEEK> Indeed
[08:00] <lilstevie> heh
[08:00] <stroughtonsmith> you kiwis are multiplying
[08:01] <lilstevie> hehe
[08:01] <ProGEEK> sadly
[08:01] <lilstevie> <-- NZer that lives in AU
[08:01] <ProGEEK> we're getting thicker too
[08:01] <lilstevie> and I am surrounded by fellow kiwis
[08:01] <ProGEEK> Yeah we've decided we dont like our country so we are all leaving
[08:01] <lilstevie> what some of my aus friends call the NZ invasion
[08:02] <ProGEEK> id believe it too lol
[08:02] <lilstevie> my local supermarket even stocks L&P
[08:02] <ProGEEK> L&P ftw
[08:02] <lilstevie> absolutely
[08:03]  * lilstevie hopes the images release at a reasonable hour, cause I'd hate to start trying to shoehorn an image on to my device at 1am
[08:03] <ProGEEK> <-- insomniac, so no probs lol
[08:04] <lilstevie> heh
[08:04] <lilstevie> not really an issue here either, I'd just like to be getting in bed before 5am
[08:04] <ProGEEK> im not looking forward to the time its gonna take to DL the image, unless its a torrent
[08:05] <Pip> So where to download the image?
[08:05] <ProGEEK> we dont know, hasnt been released yet
[08:05] <Pip> oh7fdn, that explains
[08:06] <ProGEEK> xD
[08:06] <Pip> :S
[08:08] <Wouter___> F5, F5, F5....
[08:08] <ProGEEK> dont break the internet
[08:09] <lilstevie> ProGEEK, eh downloading I don't think is going to be that big of a deal, install isos download fairly quickly for me
[08:10] <lilstevie> ProGEEK, but also if they use the same cdimage server setup there should be a .torrent
[08:10] <stroughtonsmith> hey hey, Harmattan QML works with nearly zero changes. That makes my life so much easier
[08:10] <lilstevie> stroughtonsmith, that is pretty cool
[08:11] <lilstevie> stroughtonsmith, maybe ubuntu/canonical can get those devs who invested time into MeeGo/Harmattan to bring their apps over
[08:11] <stroughtonsmith> moreso than RIM
[08:11] <stroughtonsmith> Cascades killed everything beautiful about Nokia's Qt Components
[08:11] <lilstevie> heh
[08:12]  * lilstevie has high hopes for ubuntu phone
[08:13] <ProGEEK> should go far
[08:13] <ProGEEK> the UI just makes sense
[08:13] <lilstevie> yeah
[08:16] <lilstevie> I just hope it doesn't do a windows phone
[08:16] <ProGEEK> explain
[08:16] <lilstevie> WP numbers are really really weak
[08:17] <ogra_> yeah, word perfect is definitely better at chars than numbers
[08:17] <lilstevie> and developer support isn't great
[08:17] <lilstevie> ogra_, lol
[08:17] <ogra_> morning :)
[08:17] <ProGEEK> lol
[08:17] <ProGEEK> evening
[08:19] <lilstevie> ProGEEK, use UGT :p
[08:19] <ProGEEK> sorry, thick tonight, UGT ?
[08:20] <lilstevie> http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html
[08:20] <ProGEEK> ah i wasnt aware of such a greeting
[08:20] <ProGEEK> but makes sense :p
[08:21] <lilstevie> ogra_, is there any estimated time that images are going to go live? or have they kept you out of the loop :p
[08:22] <Nagu> Is touch preview installer released? Its 21st feb :(
[08:25] <Wouter___> still F5, F5, F5....
[08:28] <stroughtonsmith> hey lilstevie : http://highcaffeinecontent.com/cloud/images/d650e28f26e880cd6b8d7fb41596df28.png
[08:28] <stroughtonsmith> quickest. port. ever.
[08:29] <lilstevie> stroughtonsmith, win
[08:29]  * lilstevie loves lightsoff
[08:29] <stroughtonsmith> now all I need are Ubuntu Phones and a store to release it on
[08:29] <lilstevie> heh
[08:30] <ProGEEK> oh that is just amazing
[08:32]  * lilstevie goes to watch some tv to kill the time
[08:40] <Nagu> Is touch preview installer released? Its 21st feb :(
[08:42] <ashleyis> it was up on the cdimage mirror for a bit then dissapeared
[09:00] <roxkYu> hello..
[09:00] <roxkYu> has the ubuntu phone os out already?
[09:00] <roxkYu> thanks.
[09:01] <lonequid> not yet
[09:01] <roxkYu> orh..ok..
[09:01] <kos_> Hello
[09:01] <roxkYu> any specified time it will be out?
[09:01] <lonequid> none that im aware of. itll be up here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TouchInstallProcess
[09:02] <roxkYu> i see..ok, got it.
[09:02] <roxkYu> thanks.
[09:02] <lonequid> np
[09:03] <ProGEEK> argh i hate waiting
[09:04] <Wouter___> ... aaarrrggh F5, F5
[09:05] <roxkYu> haha..
[09:06] <roxkYu> i'm afraid i might "brick" my phone.
[09:06] <roxkYu> hopefully, everything would go well once the image is out..
[09:06] <ProGEEK> follow the instructions to the letter and you'll be right.
[09:07] <ProGEEK> i find i only brick stuff when i dont read
[09:07] <roxkYu> sure, you are right.
[09:08] <ProGEEK> i REALLy need a case for my Nexus 4
[09:08] <ProGEEK> it keeps sliding off my desk =/
[09:08] <ogra_> there wont be much instructions beyond "download tool, run tool with the right arg for your device"
[09:08] <roxkYu> ok..
[09:08] <ProGEEK> idiotproof, i like it
[09:08] <ogra_> thats what ubuntu does :)
[09:08] <roxkYu> if i want my original android OS , could it be done?
[09:08] <ogra_> software for your grandpa
[09:08] <roxkYu> or i need to save it myself?
[09:08] <roxkYu> haha...
[09:08] <ProGEEK> roxkYu, backup
[09:09] <ProGEEK> use rom manager or something.
[09:09] <roxkYu> hmm.. ok
[09:09] <ogra_> right
[09:09] <roxkYu> got to do some "research" later..
[09:09] <ProGEEK> I dunno how the Ubuntu OS takes over the nand, so im hoping my ROM Manager backups will be valid
[09:10] <roxkYu> actually, to tell the truth...
[09:10] <roxkYu> i; m a "grandpa"
[09:10] <roxkYu> lolz..
[09:10] <ogra_> you will always be able to roll back
[09:10] <ProGEEK> epic. sold
[09:10] <ogra_> but the install will indeed wipe the device
[09:11] <ProGEEK> regardless, i was sold a month ago
[09:11] <ogra_> well, dont expect to much ... i recommend watching the engadget video
[09:11] <roxkYu> at the worst, we can always go the phone service to reclone back the original OS for a fee.
[09:11] <ogra_> it explains what works and what doesnt quite well
[09:12] <ogra_> (and is good for killing time while you wait)
[09:12] <ProGEEK> oh is that up, does you have linkage ?
[09:12] <ogra_> https://plus.google.com/107109423598372241322/posts/P9TjoTDYB87
[09:12] <ProGEEK> cheers
[09:12] <ProGEEK> i'll be afk
[09:15] <roxkYu> that's great one.
[09:15] <roxkYu> ;-)
[09:15] <ProGEEK> its so sexy
[09:18] <vivi1900> waiting for ubuntu phone os image……
[09:24] <ProGEEK> yup, still sold :D
[09:24] <mutantkeyboard> greetings people
[09:25] <buriddu_> is there any app for chatting in ubuntu-phone?
[09:25] <mutantkeyboard> what do you mean? you'll only need an irc-client
[09:26] <ProGEEK> Its a developer preview, so i'm assuming, no
[09:27] <mutantkeyboard> @buriddu_ there you have an idea for the app ;)
[09:27] <meetingology> mutantkeyboard: Error: "buriddu_" is not a valid command.
[09:28] <mutantkeyboard> but images are still not available for DL
[09:28] <ProGEEK> sadly not
[09:28] <ogra_> watch the video linked here ... it pretty much explains what works and what the purpose of teh images is https://plus.google.com/107109423598372241322/posts/P9TjoTDYB87
[09:28] <buriddu_> lol, I was thinking to compile libpurble and finch for the terminal app... then, if it works, maybe I could create a qml interface
[09:29] <mutantkeyboard> indeed
[09:29] <mutantkeyboard> nice idea
[09:29] <ogra_> yeah, thats exactly what is being looked for ... people hacking together apps :)
[09:29] <mutantkeyboard> I have a #GNexus and can't wait to try this ...
[09:30] <buriddu_> great! I don't have much spare time, but I'll try it
[09:30] <buriddu_> thanks guys
[09:31] <mutantkeyboard> you're welcome
[09:32]  * vibhav waits 
[09:38] <robin-gloster_> does anyone know if a music player has been started working on?
[09:44] <buriddu_> I think youtube is the only app for music/video right now (of course it's not a music player)
[09:46] <stroughtonsmith> *cough* http://invalid.ed.ntnu.no/~jostein/ubuntu_images.html
[09:47] <kos_> nice
[09:47] <ogra_> carop
[09:47] <ogra_> that will delay the release
[09:47]  * ogra_ wipes the files
[09:47] <ogra_> idiots
[09:48] <stroughtonsmith> found it on XDA developers
[09:48] <stroughtonsmith> lots of posts about it
[09:49] <kos_> thanks for this information
[09:49] <ogra_> gone
[09:50] <ProGEEK> good
[09:51] <F41L> woo, got the images!
[09:52] <ogra_> stroughtonsmith, thanks a lot for that info ... sadly that makes the pre-release testeing a lot harder
[09:52] <ogra_> so it will take longer until we release
[09:52] <ogra_> the images dont gain you much without the flash tool
[09:52] <stroughtonsmith> thought someone had posted a fake build at first, then found the cached page
[09:52] <F41L> I'm curious, haven't installed yet, but is the docking transition to desktop included in the preview?
[09:53] <F41L> flash tool? I see people already installing it with fastboot
[09:53] <lonequid> lol
[09:53] <ogra_> its not installable with fastboot
[09:53] <Nagu> where can i download tablet version images?
[09:53] <ogra_> not sure what image you refer to though :)
[09:53] <F41L> XDA forums
[09:54] <ogra_> sigh
[09:54] <F41L> quantal-preinstalled-system-armel+mako.img
[09:54] <F41L> is that ubuntu for android?
[09:54] <ogra_> no
[09:54] <F41L> cause I don't think so
[09:55] <F41L> fastboot recovery/system/boot/ <img here> is what they're posting as working.
[09:55] <ogra_> well, the images are gone
[09:55] <kos_> can you give the link from xda please ?
[09:55] <lonequid> xda has them they aren't 'gone'
[09:55] <Nagu> can anyone put forward the link to download the image?
[09:55] <lonequid> they'll be mirroed soon
[09:55] <ogra_> GAH
[09:55] <Nagu> i cant find in xda forum :(
[09:55] <ogra_> great, that will cost some people their jobs
[09:56] <lonequid> lol
[09:56] <F41L> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2078727&page=26
[09:56] <kos_> thanks =)
[09:56] <ogra_> lonequid, not funny, mine is included
[09:56] <F41L> what you talking about ogra? :D
[09:56]  * xnox wants to publish a message to xda-developers of a yoda saying "learn patience, you must"
[09:56] <lonequid> well whoever posted them to a live webserver early obviously wasn't doing their job right :P
[09:56] <F41L> haha
[09:57] <F41L> it's 2am west coast 21st feb
[09:57] <F41L> what's the harm? :D
[09:57] <ogra_> lonequid, yes, that was me apparently
[09:57] <lonequid> :(
[09:57] <F41L> lol, don't blame yourself
[09:57] <vivi1900> is anyone get the image?
[09:57] <F41L> blame unpatient nerds with access to google's caching
[09:58] <F41L> http://invalid.ed.ntnu.no/~jostein/ubuntu_images.html
[09:58] <ogra_> well, i'm the person responsible for the flaw ... but the images were completely taken down now and we will have to start over
[09:58] <vivi1900> so kind of you~!!
[09:58] <ProGEEK> start over ?
[09:58] <F41L> :D
[09:58] <vivi1900> thinks a lot~!
[09:58] <ogra_> yesm, with the testing and all
[09:58] <F41L> lol whatchu mean?
[09:59] <mutantkeyboard> they're all .img files which you can normally flash via fastboot
[09:59] <ogra_> we are testing all images for downloadability and installability in the context they are meant to work
[09:59] <lonequid> on release day?
[09:59] <ogra_> since i had to change the context due to that xda nonsense we need to start over, that will take a few hours
[09:59] <mutantkeyboard> I see
[09:59] <ogra_> so dont hold your breath now
[10:00] <F41L> lol, I don't understand the problem
[10:00] <F41L> is it not supposed to be fastboot installed?
[10:00] <ogra_> it is supposed to be installer by the installer we will publish
[10:00] <F41L> hah
[10:00] <ogra_> *installed
[10:00] <lonequid> well the recovery you publish is clockworkmod so shouldn't it work with other recoveries?
[10:00] <F41L> well why start over? :D only a small handful of people probably even have the images
[10:01] <F41L> I bet you could find out by looking at the download statistics
[10:01] <mutantkeyboard> but it's easier if they make experience similar to WUBI
[10:01] <mutantkeyboard> it might allow you to even have dual boot
[10:01] <mutantkeyboard> in the future releases
[10:02] <F41L> I mean shucks, I haven't even installed it yet. I was waiting for the instructions
[10:02] <ProGEEK> i hate it when people spoil it for others
[10:02] <F41L> my net connection is slow so it takes a bit to download, so I wanted to have the files ready and then hit the ground running.
[10:03] <F41L> Would be cool if you could do dual boot with androd
[10:03] <F41L> but I guess that'd defeat the purpose :D
[10:03] <lonequid> well the purpose is a preview so now a dualboot would be good
[10:03] <mutantkeyboard> yep, but that's why hacker exists
[10:03] <lonequid> i'm sure xda will have it dualbooting in a few hours
[10:03] <F41L> I'm still curious if desktop mode is available in this preview, I'm most looking forward to that. I have my bluetooth mouse, keyboard, and hdmi adapter all ready and raring to go.
[10:04] <lonequid> "I don't think you're missing much, according to people in the GNex forum it doesn't really do much. No apps work, pre-populated data and no GSM radio functionality. I've spent ages backing my phone up, and it's not even worth bothering with. "
[10:04] <F41L> hah, I did like several backups of my phone as well.
[10:05] <doomlord> is it out now?
[10:05] <mutantkeyboard> not yet as far as I see
[10:06] <mutantkeyboard> I don't know if it's related to the timezone. I'm in Croatia which makes offset of +2 hours to the GMT
[10:06] <F41L> I'm -8
[10:06] <F41L> I don't think they're going by timezone
[10:06] <F41L> or midnight for that matter
[10:06] <mutantkeyboard> Right
[10:07] <ProGEEK> that and its now gonna take longer cause it was leaked
[10:07] <xnox> ogra_: shall we start /j #ubuntu-release-party as we usually do?! =)
[10:08] <vivi1900> sadly,all the download link break~~~
[10:08] <ogra_> xnox, haha, good idea
[10:09]  * ogra_ drinks a cup of valerian to calm down again
[10:09] <PiZZaMartijn> does anybody know at what time the images wil be released?
[10:09] <F41L> ogra_, do you know if there's GSM capability in the preview? or desktop docking mode?
[10:10] <ogra_> i'm pretty sure the desktop mode isnt there yet
[10:10] <ogra_> GSM should work i heard
[10:10] <F41L> argh, desktop mode :(
[10:10] <ProGEEK> its a preview, dont expect alot
[10:11] <F41L> I knows, but it wouldda been wonderful.
[10:11] <ogra_> its a preview, dont expect to much ... actual release date is 14.04
[10:11] <F41L> I thought it was 13.10?
[10:11] <F41L> hmm
[10:11] <ogra_> but your help in writing apps and helping with implementing, testing etc will be massively appreciated by all of us
[10:12] <F41L> Well of course ;3
[10:12] <ogra_> even with making the desktop mode rock
[10:12] <ProGEEK> if it rocks, im ditching my laptop
[10:12] <F41L> ^
[10:12] <dmdrummond> frals, Riussi: I've deleted my merge proposal for ubuntu-clock-app now Riussi pushed his to the trunk. I would rather have not had my weekend wasted, it would be good if we could check what branches were being worked on to avoid duplication of effort in future.
[10:12] <F41L> Bring my HDMI cable, bluetooth mouse and bluetooth keyboard to work
[10:12] <F41L> done
[10:12] <F41L> :D
[10:13] <doomlord> ubuntu tablet on something like the  asus transfomer  makes SO much sense
[10:15] <F41L> lol ogra_
[10:15] <F41L> they caught on to your tricks
[10:15] <F41L> they found the folder again
[10:16] <ogra_> crap
[10:16] <ProGEEK> obscure the hell out of that foldername
[10:16] <lonequid> lol
[10:16] <lonequid> got em
[10:16] <lonequid> :)
[10:16] <F41L> I'm watching their forums lol
[10:16] <F41L> this is funny
[10:17] <ogra_> well, then we cant test them at all, i have taken thjem completely down now ... not sure what will happen to the release now
[10:18] <F41L> "I'm thinking like always..we are jumping the gun...lets sit back and wait for them now...we have had our flash fix but now we wait...good show Ubuntu :P"
[10:18] <ogra_> heh
[10:19] <robin-gloster_> guys please just wait for the release, that really isn't funny, canonical is working really hard and you are disrupting their work
[10:19] <ProGEEK> agreed ^
[10:19] <lonequid> they shouldn't put their work onto the live web for anyone to find then
[10:19] <lonequid> lol
[10:19] <F41L> I'm just a spectator, robin-gloster
[10:19] <lonequid> it's too late now anyway xda has them they're out there
[10:19] <F41L> and I think dang well that it's hilarious to see the situation from both sides.
[10:19] <F41L> yeah once it's on the interwebs
[10:20] <F41L> it's there.
[10:20] <F41L> "I believe they monitoring this thread"
[10:20] <F41L> hahaha
[10:21] <ogra_> ;(((
[10:22] <PiZZaMartijn> what thread?
[10:22] <F41L> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2078691&page=95
[10:22] <Nagu> Is installer image out now?
[10:22] <F41L> no image out
[10:22] <F41L> at all :D
[10:23] <F41L> but they've got a mirror for maguro up, so there's that
[10:23] <F41L> silly geeks, ahh how I love us.
[10:23] <ProGEEK> you guys arnt helping
[10:24] <stroughtonsmith> testing: never do it on the day of release
[10:24] <stroughtonsmith> :D
[10:24] <GreenChris> i can't wait anymore
[10:24] <GreenChris> arrgh
[10:25] <F41L> I'm not postin' anything, I don't even have an account for XDA, just an excited ubuntu fan that happens to have bought a galaxy nexus and then later saw this awesome thing that there was an ubuntu phone os comming out for it :D
[10:26] <wickwire> Hi, does anyone know if the ubuntu for phones ROM will be released any time soon?
[10:26] <stroughtonsmith> I think I understand the [complicated!] install process now. I see why you'd want an installer for the public ogra_
[10:26] <wickwire> I have a Galaxy Nexus and would very much like to install it
[10:27] <F41L> wickwire, later today sometime.
[10:27] <F41L> From what I gather.
[10:27] <wickwire> really, today? that's brilliant
[10:27] <wickwire> I've been doing Qt5 stuff on embedded
[10:28] <wickwire> and I would really like to check the HTML5 app eco-system as well
[10:28] <GreenChris> does anyone of you has a N4?
[10:28] <ProGEEK> i have an N4
[10:28] <buriddu_> i do
[10:28] <wickwire> Is N4 also being supported from the start?
[10:28] <ProGEEK> yep
[10:28] <buriddu_> it should
[10:28] <GreenChris> yes
[10:29] <F41L> What about GTK, I've been really curious about that (at least from the desktop mode standpoint)
[10:29] <GreenChris> every nexus device since the galaxy nexus
[10:29] <GreenChris> is supported
[10:29] <GreenChris> i think
[10:30] <GreenChris> Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 7, Nexus 4 and Nexus 10
[10:30] <F41L> Is GTK supported/going to be supported for desktop mode apps? the thought of using monodevelop and such for my app development still would be wonderful.
[10:31] <F41L> Even moreso if I could run monodev -ON- my GNex while docked to hdmi
[10:31] <ProGEEK> i would believe the desktop modwe would be a full desktop
[10:33] <F41L> I hope so, but it'd be great to have a bit more of an offical answer on that. To quell my frustrating curiosity and excitement.
[10:34] <mutantkeyboard> F41L it's really hard to get a x86_64 functionality on ARM so I don't think that GNex is capable of running hi-end stuff with just a 1GB of RAM
[10:34] <F41L> shoot, I run monodevelop on 1gig of ram already on xubuntu 64bit
[10:34] <F41L> :D
[10:35] <mutantkeyboard> indeed, but still, this is a phone, and the build is still in buggy alpha phase
[10:36] <mutantkeyboard> I want to give it a try since I got tired of Android and Java
[10:36] <F41L> I know
[10:36] <F41L> I just... I hate java
[10:36] <F41L> like C#, curiously enough O.o
[10:37] <mutantkeyboard> :D
[10:38] <mutantkeyboard> it's funny though. I'm primarily C/C++ developer, but Java used to confuse me a lot in the beginning.
[10:38] <F41L> lol
[10:39] <F41L> and of course, engadget already has a hands on of the dev preview
[10:39] <lonequid> it's on xda everyone has their hands on it
[10:40] <mutantkeyboard> chuck norris works in engadget ;)
[10:40] <F41L> lol
[10:41] <buriddu_> :D
[10:41] <mutantkeyboard> lonequid - what do you mean? xda links are dead
[10:42] <lonequid> look harder
[10:42] <F41L> they have mirrors all over now
[10:42] <F41L> of people who managed to download it
[10:42] <mutantkeyboard> thread?
[10:42] <F41L> same thread
[10:42] <larsemil> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2078727&page=28
[10:42] <mutantkeyboard> lemme have a look
[10:42] <mutantkeyboard> tnq
[10:42] <F41L> that's the N4 thread, there's a gnex thread too
[10:43] <F41L> http://nexfiles.kjonigsen.net/ubuntu/
[10:43] <stroughtonsmith> ha, it boots
[10:44] <F41L> video player but no music player
[10:44] <F41L> QQ
[10:44] <lonequid> did it wipe data stroughtonsmith?
[10:45] <F41L> I hear it does. could be wrong
[10:45] <mutantkeyboard> thanks F41L ...
[10:45] <mutantkeyboard> do I need MD5 sums for check?
[10:46] <F41L> if you don't trust the security of those files :D but then again, those MD5s are hosted on that same untrusted server as well and could have been modified
[10:46] <lonequid> i have md5s of the nexus4 files
[10:46] <lonequid> from ubuntu's server
[10:46] <lonequid> i didn't get the large phablet file
[10:46] <F41L> me either.
[10:46] <F41L> my internet is too slow
[10:46] <F41L> :D
[10:46] <lonequid> i only grabbed things labeled 'mako'
[10:46] <lonequid> only realized afterwards I forgot it
[10:46] <lonequid> :P
[10:46] <F41L> I only grabbed things labeled maguro
[10:47] <lonequid> 5b246441fb5ad6a7b7bf92703417aa59  quantal-preinstalled-armel+mako.zip b8adbac7458f423e84c9a2901f6ab216  quantal-preinstalled-boot-armel+mako.img
[10:47] <lonequid> 91b8babbf8ba8792611fa4532e596401  quantal-preinstalled-recovery-armel+mako.img 71693078b87e370651883b3a11c1b032  quantal-preinstalled-system-armel+mako.img
[10:47] <lonequid> from ubuntu's server
[10:47] <stroughtonsmith> lonequid: I'd wait for the official installer if you're worried about data
[10:47] <lonequid> i've got a full backup i was just curious
[10:47] <stroughtonsmith> the phablet part is essential too, for the record
[10:48] <F41L> I'm not worried about data :D I did like 3 backups of various methods of my whole phone
[10:48] <F41L> including a DD image
[10:49] <lonequid> lol it has parts of CM10 in it
[10:50] <mutantkeyboard> engadget hands on tablet shows that it's easy to get back to stock android later, all you need is a factory image of a model and fastboot -flashall
[10:51] <stroughtonsmith> purty. http://img.ly/images/6872097/full
[10:52] <F41L> I should go to sleep jeeze
[10:52] <F41L> work
[10:52] <F41L> night hackers
[10:55] <Nagu> I dont see any instructions on this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TouchInstallProcess
[10:55] <Nagu> can someone help me how to get started?
[10:55] <ogra_> it isnt released yet
[10:56] <ogra_> the instructions will be up once the images are tested
[10:56] <ogra_> (and released)
[10:56] <ogra_> likely late afternoon now
[10:56] <Andy80> hi
[10:57] <Nagu> late afternoon??
[10:57] <ogra_> UTC
[10:57] <Andy80> jppiiroi1en, hi :) do you have a minute to help me fix a QtCreator compilation problem? I think I've installed all the Qt5 libs, but when I execute qmake I get this error after a while: Project ERROR: Unknown module(s) in QT: declarative
[10:58] <Nagu> copy trunk/ubuntu/modules to your qt installed qml modules
[11:01] <Andy80> Nagu, me?
[11:02] <Nagu> yep
[11:02] <lonequid> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDsADuxb43Q&feature=youtu.be
[11:03] <Andy80> Nagu, I don't understand then.... which "trunk/ubuntu/modules" are you talking about?
[11:04] <Nagu> Did you download the qt-ubuntu-components pack??
[11:04] <Nagu> something like this qt-components-ubuntu_0.1.24~quantal1??
[11:06] <mutantkeyboard> lonequid is this your phone?
[11:06] <lonequid> no someone posted it on xda
[11:07] <ProGEEK> didnt take them long to get it running
[11:07] <Andy80> Nagu, qt-components-ubuntu is installed, but.... did you understand what I'm trying to compile :) ? It's not related with *ubuntu* at all. I'm trying to compile "Qt Creator" using Qt 5.0.1
[11:07] <ogra_> i hope they will port it as fast to other devices :)
[11:07] <jppiiroi1en> Andy80: did you install all the build-deps?
[11:07] <ProGEEK> lol ogra_
[11:07] <ProGEEK> fully agree tho
[11:07] <netcurli> Andy80: afaik there is no module called "declarative" in qt5
[11:08] <Nagu> no man. i didnt try that
[11:08] <netcurli> but qml or quick1
[11:08] <Nagu> yes i suppose
[11:08] <Andy80> jppiiroi1en, I think.... I installed all the packages that bzoltan1 told me. Anyway, how can I verifty if I've installed everything?
[11:08] <ProGEEK> Truth be told, alot of self control here to not flash the leaked images lol
[11:08] <jppiiroi1en> Andy80: do you have the qt5-staging ppa set?
[11:09] <ogra_> ProGEEK, well, only the mako ones are on mega, no ?
[11:09] <ProGEEK> that im aware of
[11:09] <Andy80> jppiiroi1en, qt5-staging ? This is new... I'm using the qt5-proper you told me to use :)
[11:09] <ProGEEK> <-- Owns a mako
[11:09] <ogra_> so its only N4 users that could actually flash
[11:09] <lilstevie> ogra_, the maguro ones are being mirrored elsewhere
[11:09] <ogra_> ah, well
[11:10] <jppiiroi1en> Andy80: as then you could just run sudo apt-get build-dep qtcreator to get the build-deps for the qt5 packaged qtcreator
[11:10] <Andy80> jppiiroi1en, I'm using this PPA anyway http://ppa.launchpad.net/canonical-qt5-edgers/qt5-beta-proper/ubuntu is it correct?
[11:10] <mutantkeyboard> ogra_ http://nexfiles.kjonigsen.net/ubuntu/
[11:10] <jppiiroi1en> Andy80: the qt5-staging contains the qtcreator only at the moment to try out the qt5,
[11:10] <Andy80> ok, let me try with that command...
[11:10] <jppiiroi1en> Andy80: it is
[11:10] <mutantkeyboard> these are gnex
[11:10] <mutantkeyboard> files
[11:10] <ogra_> :/
[11:10] <ProGEEK> bloody leakers
[11:10] <mutantkeyboard> indeed
[11:11] <ogra_> yeah, cant do much about it anymore
[11:11] <Andy80> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[11:11] <Andy80>   libicu-dev qtquick1-5-dev qtquick1-5-dev-tools qtxmlpatterns5-dev-tools
[11:11] <Andy80> tadaaa :)
[11:11] <Andy80> I was missing stuff ;)
[11:11]  * ogra_ still cant belive that they managed to catch it in the 2mins the images were visible
[11:11] <ProGEEK> they be crafty buggers
[11:11] <ogra_> it was even less than 2mins
[11:12] <robin-gloster_> ogra_ think you got some community testers even if not on purpose
[11:12] <Andy80> jppiiroi1en, cool :) now the qmake is going on! let's see how it goes ;) thanks!
[11:12] <ogra_> robin-gloster_, doesnt help much with thesting the installer :)
[11:12] <jppiiroi1en> Andy80: np
[11:12] <ogra_> but yeah
[11:13] <robin-gloster_> ogra_ yeah right but i wouldn't take it too hard, just hope no big news sites will take notice
[11:14] <mutantkeyboard> ogra_ are you responsible for images?
[11:14] <ogra_> well, we'll release in a few hours anyway ... its just making the testing realkly hard if you cant use the real location so it takes longer now
[11:14] <ogra_> mutantkeyboard, only for the publishing (and the leaking now)
[11:15] <mutantkeyboard> I see... yes, that sucks, that's why I decided to wait anyway
[11:15] <stroughtonsmith> the bigger news sites are waiting for the OK. The smaller ones will probably go for it though…
[11:16] <mutantkeyboard> ogra_ is it true that it's going to be late afternoon when everything is ready??
[11:17] <ogra_> i'm responsible for the nexus7 desktop image we publish since a while ... if your x86 desktops got a lot faster in raring than in precise, that image is the reason :)
[11:18] <robin-gloster_> ogra_ you did some great work there :)
[11:18] <oneadvent> where is my download? i want it now. It is the 21st in usa, which is GODS time
[11:18] <ogra_> heh, thanks, the whole team did though
[11:18] <oneadvent> ^sarcasm
[11:19] <ogra_> i' just glueing the work together but yeah, they made the desktop lose over 200MB
[11:19] <ogra_> (and i guess there will be another 100-150M until 13.04)
[11:20] <ogra_> (talking about RAM usage here)
[11:21] <ProGEEK> arg this is killing me
[11:24] <stroughtonsmith> alright I'm off; have a fun release day! :P
[11:25] <n00b_dust> So when is the phone OS downloads expected to come out for GNex?
[11:26] <napster> I thought it was today
[11:26] <mutantkeyboard> it will be today
[11:26] <napster> lets wait :)
[11:26] <ogra_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install will change once it is released
[11:27] <n00b_dust> Hard to be patient, but then again, I don't want them to release it before its ready enough :P
[11:27] <mutantkeyboard> :) and according to ogra_ it's going to be in a couple of hours
[11:27] <ogra_> right
[11:27] <Nagu> still its not clocked as  today :) cant wait more
[11:29] <napster> ok, my plan for today is to install phone OS on my gnex and develop a few quick test apps and revert back to Jelly Bean for now.
[11:29] <n00b_dust> Anyone know where I can get one of those docks for my GNex to use the docking ability?
[11:29] <napster> I see a lot on ebay n00b_dust
[11:30] <oneadvent> ogra_: can you answer a few questions about features?
[11:30] <oneadvent> just basic ones, no crazy things
[11:30] <n00b_dust> napster: are they general docks or specifically for GNex?
[11:30] <napster> no, I think each phone does have its own docks.
[11:31] <oneadvent> n00b_dust: i hadn't found one, i need to get one of the connectors too, for the hdmi/usb
[11:31] <ogra_> oneadvent, whatch that video https://plus.google.com/107109423598372241322/posts/P9TjoTDYB87
[11:31] <n00b_dust> I'm in India, so its very hard to get my hands on one of those :(
[11:31] <ogra_> it should get you a basic overview of what works and what doesnt
[11:31] <PiZZaMartijn> damn google phone is slooow
[11:31] <napster> n00b_dust: http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-EDD-H1F8BEGSTA-Verizon-Galaxy-Desktop/dp/B006NYP83Q
[11:31] <napster> this is for gnex
[11:32] <napster> ok guys, I will be back in an hour.
[11:33] <oneadvent> well i'm more thinking apps questions. like how does it work as a phone? I'm thinking of making it my primary phone. <- ogra_
[11:33] <n00b_dust> I thought we needed to use the pogo pins to dock it
[11:33] <ogra_> oneadvent, i think you can make calls
[11:33] <timhansen> any word on the touch developer preview?
[11:33] <oneadvent> i'm okay with alpha software so long as i can make calls, but it would make it much easier if i can import google mail contacts and facebook contacts
[11:33] <PiZZaMartijn> i can't seem to make calls
[11:33] <oneadvent> kinda how android pulls my contacts in, will i be able to pull my contacts in
[11:34] <mutantkeyboard> yes, they fixed GSM, I don't know if CDMA verzion works
[11:34] <vibhav> I cant wait to have to have a look at the code.
[11:34] <PiZZaMartijn> i can't make calls on GSM
[11:34] <oneadvent> uh mutantkeyboard i'm on verizon
[11:34] <ogra_> PiZZaMartijn, probably because the image isnt released :)
[11:34] <vibhav> It must be glorious
[11:34] <PiZZaMartijn> yes but will there be so much diffrence betwean the leaked and released image?
[11:34] <mutantkeyboard> PiZZaMartijn, yes the beta images don't have the fixed functionality
[11:35] <ogra_> PiZZaMartijn, ask the xda guys that spread it
[11:35] <vibhav> ogra_: so, you're handling all these people here today?
[11:35] <oneadvent> oh..there it said no google contacts in that video
[11:36] <oneadvent> i can live with no music player, no prob there
[11:36] <ogra_> vibhav, well, i'm doing the publishing ... and had some help in here from friendly  community people pointing me to the leakage :)
[11:36] <ogra_> so i stick around until its out :)
[11:36] <ogra_> in case more disasters happen
[11:36] <oneadvent> i bet someone will make an app to sync google contacts pretty quickly
[11:36] <ogra_> hopefully
[11:36] <n00b_dust> oneadvent: I'm sure you could do it indirectly. Export google contacts in a format and then import them on the phone.
[11:37] <ogra_> thats the whole purpose of the image :)
[11:37] <oneadvent> thats a good idea n00b_dust
[11:37] <oneadvent> ogra_: this image will be "upgradeable"?
[11:37] <ogra_> i think so
[11:37] <oneadvent> i tried the sdk but i couldn't get it to run
[11:37] <ogra_> it should just update like any other ubuntu install
[11:37] <n00b_dust> I hope the 'upgrades' don't break my phone builds as they break my desktop builds :P
[11:37] <vibhav> ogra_: ah. But remember, handling a good lot of impatient people waiting for an Ubuntu product is not easy
[11:37] <oneadvent> kept complaining about qml or something, i only write in python and php though
[11:38] <ogra_> vibhav, well, i'm doing that stuff since 8 years ... i can get along with impatient crowds on IRC as long as they dont show up at my house :)
[11:38] <oneadvent> yea i wouldn't brag about ubuntu upgrades...i had one that totally borked my system. had to reinstall (or rather it was so borked that was easier)
[11:38] <vibhav> ogra_: :D
[11:38] <oneadvent> so ogra_ where do you live again?
[11:39] <ogra_> haha
[11:39] <netcurli> :D
[11:39] <oneadvent> shoulda made import work rather than all that photo stuff...
[11:40] <ogra_> the sosurce will get released along the images, feel free to fix it :)
[11:40] <oneadvent> i'll look
[11:40] <oneadvent> i'm clever but i bet there is someone much more clever
[11:40] <mutantkeyboard> nice, I wonder if Ubuntu uses wakelocks or not
[11:41] <oneadvent> lol hope it has an alarm clock or i'm gonna be late a lot of places
[11:41] <mutantkeyboard> hahahahahhaa
[11:41] <timhansen> oneadvent, did you follow the steps under #1 here http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/gomobile/ ?
[11:41] <oneadvent> yea
[11:41] <oneadvent> timhansen:
[11:42] <oneadvent> lemme see if i can find the error again, i'd like to be able to write stuff, but unless it is in python or php i'd be a bit lost
[11:42] <oneadvent> or java ofc
[11:42] <roxkYu> still not out yet?
[11:42] <timhansen> oneadvent, do anything with web? writing apps looks pretty easy
[11:43] <oneadvent> yea
[11:43] <oneadvent> timhansen: all i do is write stuff for the web :P
[11:43] <timhansen> oneadvent, lol i meant front end stuff
[11:43] <ogra_> well, write an alarm clock in html5
[11:44] <oneadvent> oneadvent@oneadvent-desktop:~$  qmlscene /usr/share/notepad-qml/Notepad.qml
[11:44] <oneadvent> qmlscene: could not find a Qt installation of ''
[11:44] <oneadvent> that is the error i think, but it has been a while
[11:44] <oneadvent> ogra_: i think he is hinting no alarm clock :/
[11:44] <timhansen> oneadvent, http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/app-developer-cookbook/mobile/currency-converter-phone-app/
[11:44] <timhansen> did you follow the steps under "qml viewer" ?
[11:45] <oneadvent> yea that is what i pasted above right?
[11:45] <oneadvent> qmlscene then the app
[11:45] <oneadvent> i found that app on my computer by locate .qml, so i know it is there
[11:45] <oneadvent> i tried just qmlscene with the same thing
[11:45] <timhansen> oneadvent, i'm assuming you're running ubuntu?
[11:46] <oneadvent> i'm on ubuntu with kdes front end
[11:46] <oneadvent> but the original install was ubuntu
[11:47] <oneadvent> http://paste2.org/p/2931210
[11:47] <timhansen> oneadvent, hop into a terminal (you may need to apt-get install findutils) and execute: locate qmlscene
[11:47] <stylemistake> everyone are waiting for it? :)
[11:47] <timhansen> stylemistake, yup
[11:47] <wickwire> pretty much
[11:47] <oneadvent> /usr/bin/qmlscene
[11:48] <n00b_dust> oneadvent: I never really understood that. What is the difference between a KDE install over ubuntu vs Kubuntu? Wouldn't they be the same?
[11:48] <timhansen> n00b_dust, yes
[11:48] <oneadvent> n00b_dust: yea
[11:48] <stylemistake> n00b_dust: they could be joined inside one installer
[11:49] <stylemistake> but this will never happen
[11:49] <oneadvent> i just always give unity a shot...hoping one day i'll understand
[11:49] <timhansen> n00b_dust, ubuntu comes a different desktop manager, kubuntu comes with kde
[11:49] <stylemistake> because they want to market unity by default
[11:49] <timhansen> n00b_dust, but once installed, you can add any desktop manager you'd like
[11:50] <bjaanes> I have really gotten used to Unity; I just love it now :D
[11:50] <n00b_dust> timhansen: Thats what my point was. If you're going to install KDE over ubuntu anyways, why not just get Kubuntu instead?
[11:50] <stylemistake> n00b_dust: same here
[11:50] <timhansen> n00b_dust, gotcha
[11:50] <bjaanes> It gets out of my way (when I just remove the sidebarthingy) and works
[11:50] <stylemistake> can't live without unity
[11:50] <oneadvent> n00b_dust: my point was to give base ubuntu (unity) a shot, but i always get angry and install kde anyway
[11:50] <timhansen> oneadvent, any luck on locating qmlscene?
[11:50] <bjaanes> Can I ask why you get angry at unity? Just wondering
[11:51] <oneadvent> yea i posted it...
[11:51] <oneadvent> /usr/bin/qmlscene
[11:51] <stylemistake> Hey, but Unity is the SLOWEST desktop
[11:51] <n00b_dust> stylemistake: Yeah, I guess there won't be any other option on the phone end except unity, so people will start adopting it on desktop soon
[11:51] <oneadvent> nope bjaanes it would blow up in here, no way, ogra_ will have to allow that before i start in
[11:51] <ogra_> stylemistake, did you try raring (13.04) ?
[11:51] <bjaanes> kk :)
[11:51] <stylemistake> currently, it even sucks in comparison with KDE + KWin effects
[11:51] <oneadvent> n00b_dust: there is always plasma active :P
[11:51] <stylemistake> ogra_: not yet
[11:51] <bjaanes> Its slow for some people, but its fast on my computers. At least most of the time :P
[11:52] <ogra_> try it, you will be surprised
[11:52] <timhansen> oneadvent, so then in qtcreator, change the executable path in tools > options, under the external tools tab
[11:52] <RiXtEr> Still no official update ?
[11:52] <ogra_> (especially if you know it from before)
[11:52] <bjaanes> Gets slow after a couple of days with 50 programs open xD
[11:52] <oneadvent> hmm ok
[11:52] <oneadvent> i'll try timhansen
[11:52] <oneadvent> chrome is what keeps my computer slow
[11:52] <timhansen> oneadvent, you may want to do the same with qmlviewer
[11:53] <stylemistake> when I want to play Minecraft, i always switch to gnome2 without effects to play it without lags
[11:53] <oneadvent> apparently do not have qtcreator installed
[11:53] <oneadvent> hmmmm
[11:53] <n00b_dust> oneadvent: Yeah, but I always find KDE/Plasma to be a bit resource-heavy. Or maybe its just me
[11:53] <stylemistake> i hope that is fixed in 13.04
[11:53] <timhansen> oneadvent, lol that would probably help :]
[11:53] <oneadvent> i read an article somewhere that they wer basically the same weight anymore
[11:53] <stylemistake> i think this is because of a new graphics stack
[11:54] <robin-gloster_> wiki.ubuntu.com down everywhere?
[11:54] <ogra_> fine here
[11:54] <stylemistake> robin-gloster_: yes
[11:54] <stylemistake> it's down
[11:54] <timhansen> ogra_, any idea if we'll have the preview within the next hour or so? ;]
[11:54] <n00b_dust> robin-gloster_ working fine for me
[11:54] <ogra_> timhansen, unlikely, the leaking delayed everything
[11:55] <oneadvent> i'm installing that
[11:55] <oneadvent> btw timhansen
[11:55] <robin-gloster_> seems some caching server is running haywire
[11:55] <stylemistake> leakage???
[11:55] <stylemistake> where?
[11:55] <CuttingEdge> robin-gloster_: down here too
[11:55] <oneadvent> stylemistake: yea but it is borked here or there
[11:56] <ProGEEK> those leaks, were they the final images ?
[11:57] <oneadvent> same problem, looking at qtcreator
[11:57] <n00b_dust> ProGEEK I don't think anyone can confirm that as of now. You'd have to wait for the final images to be out to compare the hashes
[11:58] <timhansen> ogra_, dammit -.-
[11:58] <stylemistake> http://www.reddit.com/r/nexus4/comments/18y4ki/ubuntu_phone_files_leaked/
[11:58] <ogra_> sigh, please dont post links to that here
[11:58] <timhansen> oneadvent, it can't find something?
[11:58] <stylemistake> i won't risk dowloading leaks, though
[11:58] <bjaanes> I think Ill be waiting a couple of hours for the real thing with instructions ^^
[11:58] <Nagu> Hi orga.. when can we expect the images from ubuntu side?
[11:59] <mainerror> Today.
[11:59] <ogra_> later today, if the testing finished
[11:59] <stylemistake> wiki is up again
[11:59] <timhansen> stylemistake, yea, i'm good. i'll wait for the real thing
[11:59] <ProGEEK> wiki never went down lol
[11:59] <ProGEEK> well didnt for me lol
[11:59] <ogra_> neither for me
[11:59] <timhansen> ProGEEK, me either
[11:59] <mainerror> Nagu: You'll find it here when it gets released. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[11:59] <stylemistake> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TouchInstallProcess or here?
[12:00] <Andy80> jppiiroi1en, there is a missin dep somewhere, because even doing "sudo apt-get build-dep qtcreator" it doesn't install the Qt5 SVG lib: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lQt5Svg
[12:00] <mainerror> stylemistake: There too I reckon. :)
[12:00] <Andy80> jppiiroi1en, I'm going to install it, but probably it's missing in debian/* somewhere if it's not automatically installed
[12:02] <oneadvent> timhansen: still workin on this :(
[12:02] <stylemistake> would be even greater, if ubuntu phone wouldn't disable LTE on nexus4
[12:02] <oneadvent> file:///usr/share/notepad-qml/Notepad.qml:2:1: module "Ubuntu.Components" is not installed
[12:03] <oneadvent> thats what i'm up to
[12:03] <ProGEEK> i wonder, if once installed, if you can then reboot into Clockwork Mod Recovery then take a backup
[12:03] <vibhav> ProGEEK: probably
[12:03] <vibhav> org
[12:04] <ProGEEK> would make sense, considering from what i've seen, it uses the same partitioning schema as android
[12:04] <vibhav> ogra_: last question, does Ubuntu phone use dpkg internally?
[12:04] <oneadvent> well ogra_ DOES IT
[12:04] <ogra_> vibhav, i think so, yes
[12:05] <timhansen> oneadvent, yea, i was getting that error in mint as well. reinstalled ubuntu to see if there was any difference, but then my ati drivers killed my desktop -.-
[12:05] <stylemistake> i have a last question too
[12:05]  * vibhav cheers 
[12:05] <vibhav> \o/
[12:06] <stylemistake> does it have a blackjack and tits?
[12:06] <stylemistake> but i know, that it has
[12:06] <stylemistake> see you later, guys
[12:06] <ogra_> it has a browser ... should get you both on demand ...
[12:07] <timhansen> lol
[12:07] <vibhav> ...
[12:07] <ProGEEK> LOL
[12:07] <oneadvent> well
[12:07] <oneadvent> i redid the install stuff from http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/gomobile/#step-get-toolkit
[12:07] <oneadvent> still have the same erorr
[12:08] <oneadvent> i can only assume i should not be deving for this device
[12:08] <timhansen> oneadvent: haha
[12:08] <mainerror> oneadvent: What error?
[12:08] <oneadvent> http://paste2.org/p/2931323
[12:09] <mainerror> Stupid question, but are you sure the SDK is properly installed?
[12:09] <ProGEEK> man my phone is running hot tonight
[12:09] <ProGEEK> think CM10.1 is wigging out again
[12:10] <oneadvent> mainerror: i'm willing to check however you want me to
[12:10] <oneadvent> i can get to the qmlcreator though
[12:11] <mainerror> I'd say try to reinstall just the ubuntu-sdk package. sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-sdk
[12:11] <oneadvent> so here is another stupid question. I have the galaxy nexus (bought just for this btw) and it has cm10 on it with clockwork. Say I make a backup, will i be able to go back to it like usual or will ubuntu take away clockwork too?
[12:13] <oneadvent> http://paste2.org/p/2931342 <- mainerror
[12:15] <mainerror> oneadvent: Even though I don't know the exact process to install Ubuntu phone I assume yes.
[12:16] <timhansen> oneadvent: does this path exist? /opt/qt5/imports/Ubuntu/Components
[12:16] <oneadvent> timhansen: that directory does not exist
[12:17] <oneadvent> sweet mainerror i hope so, the biggest problem is there is no sd card, so i'm afraid that it will overwrite that part too
[12:18] <mainerror> timhansen: That directory doesn't exist for me either and I don't have such a problem.
[12:18] <timhansen> mainerror: gotcha. was just reading some forum post, but that guy is on 12.04
[12:18] <mainerror> oneadvent: overwriting which part? In mean in theory it is like the Android image flash method.
[12:19] <oneadvent> its a mystery timhansen and mainerror
[12:19] <oneadvent> and mainerror yea i thought it said had to override it all, if it can install just like a rom i'm gonna be stoked
[12:19] <timhansen> that would be pretty nice
[12:20] <mainerror> Well, you'll lose your CM image, not sure if you'll lose the virtual SDCard too. Could be.
[12:20] <oneadvent> ogra_: wanna confirm or deny? anyone that used the leak wanna confirm/deny (since that should install basically the same way)
[12:28] <ogra_> confirm/deny what ?
[12:28] <oneadvent> if the install process is basically like installing an android rom? (where the virtual sd card is left alone)
[12:28] <ogra_> no idea, i havent written the installer/flash code
[12:28] <ogra_> you will see once it is released ;)
[12:29] <oneadvent> well i'm wondering if we will be able to backup android system in clockwork
[12:29] <ogra_> meanwhile just write some apps while waiting ;)
[12:29] <oneadvent> i can't write apps for the phone, see above lol, the install process isn't quite right
[12:30] <ogra_> oh, you mean for the SDK ? i have no clue about that
[12:30] <oneadvent> :/
[12:30] <wait4phone> Backup in recovery, move the backup to computer and you are fine
[12:30] <ogra_> havent used it at all yet (i will soon for sure)
[12:30] <oneadvent> yea wait4phone that is what i'm thinking about
[12:31] <lonequid> you should backup the emulated sdcard if you have one also it might wipe that
[12:31] <jppiiroi1en> Andy80: good catch :)
[12:31] <wait4phone> you can always fastboot flash back to Android
[12:31] <ogra_> wasnt there something called nandroid backup or so ?
[12:31] <ogra_> that should make a pretty low level backup afaik
[12:31] <wait4phone> nandroid means the backup you do from recovery
[12:32] <wait4phone> It doesn't include the "sd card"
[12:32] <ogra_> aha
[12:32] <oneadvent> i'm just hoping for an easy back and forth
[12:32] <wait4phone> I'm hoping for dual boot:)
[12:33] <ogra_> no dual boot
[12:33] <ogra_> (and not planned afaik)
[12:34] <wait4phone> If it's not technically complicated, someone will develop it
[12:36] <Tak> hm @ no dual boot
[12:42] <oneadvent> OMG it is live
[12:42] <oneadvent> j/k
[12:43] <oneadvent> did i get anyone?
[12:44] <yeahUbuntu> Nope
[12:44] <fyksen> Hey! Is the image out yet?
[12:44] <oneadvent> sure woulda been funny if i had
[12:44] <yeahUbuntu> but only because I didn't see your message until after you said j/k
[12:45] <oneadvent> i didn't want to crash the site
[12:49] <wait4phone> Did you just answer by changing the topic? lol
[12:50] <ogra_> our masters voice :)
[12:52] <popey> :D
[12:52] <popey> in anticipation of others asking the same question
[12:53] <Tak> xchat should give a diff on topic change
[12:54] <ogra_> iirc there once was a plugin script for xchat doing that
[12:54] <ogra_> not sure it still exists somewhere
[13:01] <roxkYu> 21st Feb is going to end soon.
[13:01] <vibhav> Not here
[13:02] <Great_Day> You can follow https://plus.google.com/115054251212417394181/posts to get notified when it is there...
[13:02] <roxkYu> is it Mark ShuttleWorth has not given the green light?
[13:02] <Great_Day> He posted two hours ago that it takes another few hours till it is there...
[13:03] <mainerror> roxkYu: For you maybe, for me it's still 14:00
[13:03] <mattwj2002> where is the image?
[13:04] <ogra_> roxkYu, we wanted to release earlier, but someone from xda grabbed and published the files while we were testing, now everything got delayed and we are re-testing everything again
[13:04] <roxkYu> i see..
[13:04] <roxkYu> that's a good news..
[13:04] <mattwj2002> current time 7:04 am 2/21/2013
[13:04] <roxkYu> i;m from Singapore
[13:04] <mattwj2002> ;P
[13:04] <ogra_> so it will still take a while since we have to do it twice
[13:04] <mattwj2002> :P
[13:04] <roxkYu> my time here is 2105hrs
[13:05] <mattwj2002> O.o
[13:05] <vibhav> ogra_: was the leak a security breach?
[13:05] <ogra_> vibhav, nope
[13:05] <roxkYu> @ogra: you are the canonical team member?
[13:05] <meetingology> roxkYu: Error: "ogra:" is not a valid command.
[13:06] <ogra_> roxkYu, i work for canonical. yes
[13:06] <roxkYu> i see..
[13:06] <wait4phone> what? som1 from xda? where is the link (if its still exists)
[13:06] <ogra_> not particulary on the phone image atm, i'm just publishing it
[13:06] <roxkYu> it's ok. i;m just to free.. bunch of time to kill..
[13:06] <roxkYu> i mean..i;m just too free..
[13:06] <ogra_> well, write some apps
[13:06] <ogra_> while waiting ;)
[13:06] <roxkYu> ops..
[13:06] <roxkYu> that's not my cup of tea..
[13:06] <roxkYu> lolz..
[13:07] <ogra_> html5 isnt that hard :)
[13:07] <roxkYu> ya..i did enrol some online free courses..
[13:07] <roxkYu> somehow, got stop for a while till now..
[13:08] <mainerror> I'm |                      | <-- this excited already. :D
[13:08]  * vibhav is writing a chess engine in C which could will probably get a Ubuntu Phone port
[13:09] <ogra_> awesome ! chess
[13:11] <Great_Day> hhmm... just an random question... while I was trying to develop something for ubuntu phone I got an error. I had a syntax error on the VisualItem Model. Now, my question: is VisualItemModel not defined in qtquick 2.0?
[13:14] <timhansen> sigh
[13:16] <Yugge> What is the recommended android backup solution? I think I could waste some time on backup while waiting for the image :)
[13:16] <Great_Day> Yugge: Titanium backup + superbackup
[13:18] <Yugge> Thanks
[13:19] <ment0s> Hi
[13:20] <wait4phone> Yugge: Backup from recovery (nandroid) + copy all the contents of /sdcard (that also includes the nandroid) to computer
[13:20] <mainerror> Yugge: The cloud. :P
[13:24] <nono68200> or just use CWM Backup... Works very well for me.
[13:31] <mutantkeyboard> anything yet?
[13:32] <Yugge> mutantkeyboard: leaked images delayed official release a few hours, nothing released yet
[13:33] <mutantkeyboard> yes, I know that. I have leaked images, and GSM doesn't work on these, got back to JellyBean for now
[13:33] <Yugge> right
[13:33] <Yugge> Was that easy to do?
[13:34] <Yugge> Going back that is
[13:34] <timhansen> why did leaked images delay the release?
[13:34] <mutantkeyboard> yes. you just need to download factory image for your device - maguro in my case and do fastboot -flash al
[13:34] <mutantkeyboard> I mean flash-all
[13:35] <mutantkeyboard> then it restores your phone to a stock android
[13:36] <mutantkeyboard> timhansen, these images are insecure, because they were there just for a showcase, and are not stable
[13:36] <timhansen> mutantkeyboard: right.. but why do they affect the release?
[13:37] <mutantkeyboard> I have no clue ogra_ the guy responsible for nexus 7 images gave us this information couple of hours ago
[13:37] <smartboyhw> Yugge, leaked images!?!?!?/
[13:37] <ogra_> we were in the middle of testing when xda spread them around, so we had to tear down everything, set up a new place for testing and re-test all over
[13:37] <smartboyhw> Canonical should have better security then:P
[13:38] <smartboyhw> ogra_, that is quite a problem
[13:38] <ogra_> ??
[13:38] <timhansen> ahh
[13:38] <timhansen> makes more sense then
[13:39] <ogra_> smartboyhw, has nothing to do with security
[13:40] <rymate1234> hi
[13:41] <mainerror> o/ smartboyhw
[13:41] <rymate1234> will ubuntu phone work on a single core armv6 phone???
[13:41] <timhansen> ewe, single core
[13:41] <timhansen> *eww
[13:41] <rymate1234> ikr
[13:41] <Darkwing> aaaaaand it begins.
[13:41] <timhansen> stupid auto correct
[13:41] <rymate1234> im poor tho
[13:42] <rymate1234> well
[13:42] <smartboyhw> Hello mainerror
[13:42] <ogra_> rymate1234, it isnt designed for that and will only run on v7 hardware ... though nobody would stop you to port it to a single core v7 device
[13:42] <rymate1234> yay
[13:42] <rymate1234> thought so
[13:42] <ogra_> not that you would have much fun with that though
[13:42] <Darkwing> Porting will fun. :) My first port will be CDMA Galaxy Nexus
[13:42] <rymate1234> I'd been surprised if it was portable to armv6
[13:43] <mutantkeyboard> source will be available
[13:43] <Darkwing> assuming that toro isn't being released.
[13:43] <smartboyhw> rymate1234, I really want to port it to armv6 if I knew how to do it
[13:43] <mutantkeyboard> check documentation and prepare to write a lot of kernel modules
[13:43] <ogra_> rymate1234, i meant to a single core v7 device :)
[13:43] <timhansen> lol
[13:43] <mainerror> Darkwing: Nexus S please. :D
[13:43] <ogra_> ubuntu doesnt have any packages for v6 anymore
[13:44] <mutantkeyboard> really?
[13:44] <Darkwing> mainerror: I've been doing Android ports for years... I'm planning on spending a lot of time porting
[13:44] <ogra_> so you would have to rebuild all of ubuntu first
[13:44] <mutantkeyboard> I didn't see that in repo
[13:44] <MostHated> I heard the functionality is ridiculously limited? is it even usable as an actual phone, as in making calls or anything?
[13:44] <mutantkeyboard> yes
[13:44] <smartboyhw> MostHated, yes I think
[13:44] <frals> its just dummy data in all apps, no? :p
[13:45] <rymate1234> I heard a lot of the apps are screenshots
[13:45] <mutantkeyboard> yes, it's dummy data, but the functionality is ok for the alpha release. This is a developers preview guys
[13:45] <ogra_> MostHated, its a develoer preview, what do you expect ?
[13:45] <ogra_> *developer
[13:45] <mainerror> Yea, but you'll have an actual device to develop against AAAAND something to show-off. :D
[13:45] <mutantkeyboard> indeed
[13:45] <MostHated> that is what i expected, i was just wondering if it was usable
[13:45] <ogra_> and an SDK :)
[13:45] <rymate1234> I love showing off screenshots!
[13:45] <Darkwing> Fine by me. Porting updates will be okay.
[13:46] <mutantkeyboard> I already have something in mind. I will try to port some of my existing Mac and Android apps
[13:46] <ogra_> rymate1234, so write a screenshot app then ;)
[13:46] <MostHated> I have yet to see any sort of dual boot for nexus 4, has no one made one yet so that android can still be used?
[13:46] <rymate1234> Will there be a way to run the apps on standard ubuntu?
[13:47] <Darkwing> MostHated: I've seen it for Nexus 7... Nothing on the N4 yet that Ihave found.
[13:47] <d_ed_> rymate1234: the developer docs show how to test locally
[13:47] <rymate1234> ok!
[13:47] <d_ed_> rymate1234: which is /almost/ the same thing.
[13:47] <MostHated> hopefully whoever made the n7 one, makes it for n4 too : \
[13:47] <lonequid> ogra_ can you confirm/deny if this is true? "Ubuntu Phone chroots & boots a QML shell on top of a CyanogenMod core OS sans Android UI"
[13:48] <d_ed_> does anyone know if anyone is working on an instant messaging client for Ubuntu phone
[13:48] <ogra_> no, i cant, i'm not working o the image itself, i only publish it
[13:48] <d_ed_> and/or where I could find out.
[13:48] <lonequid> ok
[13:48] <mutantkeyboard> d_ed nobody AFAIK
[13:48] <Darkwing> MostHated: If you want to look into the recovery for dual on the N7, I'm sure you can figure out how to dual it on the N4...
[13:48] <tilal6991> Dualling has been done with full ubuntu
[13:49] <tilal6991> So I don't see why it can't be done here
[13:49] <Darkwing> Because of the way that phones boot.
[13:49] <mutantkeyboard> yes, but you have to make changes in the kernel itself to make it available
[13:49] <d_ed_> perfect. I'm lead dev of the KDE IM client. We have a full Qt infrastructure and QML plugins for IM -things ready.
[13:49] <mutantkeyboard> :)
[13:49] <d_ed_> there's limited K* stuff in the part that we use in the declarative world.
[13:49] <ogra_> the touch preview isnt designed for dual boot ... though i guess some clever soul will figure it out and make that work
[13:49] <ogra_> liek they did with the nexus7 desktop image
[13:50] <Darkwing> ogra_: that's what I was refering to. :)
[13:50] <mutantkeyboard> man, the waiting is killing me
[13:50] <timhansen> mutantkeyboard: same
[13:51] <roxkYu> i think we should console ourselves..good stuff is worth waiting..
[13:51] <mutantkeyboard> roxkYu: indeed
[13:51] <roxkYu> Yeah
[13:51] <timhansen> roxkYu: we've been waiting all month ;]
[13:51] <timhansen> lol
[13:52] <mutantkeyboard> I hope that it comes with binutils
[13:52] <roxkYu> yes man
[13:52] <ogra_> it comes with a full ubuntu rootfs
[13:52] <mutantkeyboard> nice ...
[13:52] <ogra_> so indeed also with binutils
[13:53] <mutantkeyboard> one more question ogra_ ... are you root by default by using a phone, or you have to "root" it like we did with android
[13:53] <usererror> ^ 2nd
[13:53] <ogra_> uh, no idea, as i said, i havent had time to use it yet
[13:53] <mainerror> I'm wondering if the release cadence of Ubuntu phone is going to be in sync with the normal Ubuntu releases.
[13:53] <ogra_> but i assume you will have a sudo user
[13:53] <ogra_> like on every other ubuntu
[13:53] <mutantkeyboard> :]
[13:54] <usererror> mainerror: it has been said that it will be in official videos from ubuntu
[13:55] <mainerror> huh
[13:55] <ogra_> it wont in the beginning, but will over time once all the bits of the demo are in the archive ... dont forget the actual release date for this is 14.04
[13:55] <Darkwing> here is to hoping that there will be a torrent... the servers are going to flip out otherwise.
[13:55] <ogra_> nah
[13:56] <mainerror> Oh yea, no I was thinking after the final release.
[13:56] <ogra_> we have millions and millions of hits on tehse servers on an ubuntu release day ... they will cope
[13:56] <Darkwing> ogra_: :D
[13:56] <ogra_> oh, yeah, the final release will indeed also have torrents
[13:57] <mainerror> Cool.
[13:57] <ogra_> and by then we should likely get more hits that for a desktop cd
[13:57] <nagu> orga.. Is the phone os release happened??? waiting for your words..
[13:57] <ogra_> *than
[13:57] <ogra_> nagu, nope
[13:57] <ogra_> see topic :)
[13:57] <mainerror> So the normal software update process will be handled like on a normal Ubuntu system, via apt-get?
[13:57] <ogra_> it will be updated once it is
[13:57] <ogra_> right, thats the plan
[13:57] <Darkwing> ogra_: Do you know if there will be a changelog from the Android kernel?
[13:57] <mainerror> That would be wicked.
[13:58] <ogra_> no idea, but there will be devs around in here later that can answer this
[13:58] <Darkwing> ogra_: Okay cool. Thanks
[13:58] <rymate1234> wait
[13:59] <rymate1234> so ubuntu phone still uses apt-get?
[13:59] <rymate1234> :D
[13:59] <Darkwing> It's still Ubuntu.
[13:59] <ogra_> why woudlnt it ... its ubuntu
[13:59] <nagu> would like to know when can we expect to download :)
[13:59] <mainerror> You know, that will be a major advantage compared to Android and iOS.
[14:00] <rymate1234> so that means I could potentially run apache on my phone
[14:00] <Darkwing> What will? apt-get?
[14:00] <rymate1234> lmao
[14:00] <mutantkeyboard> ndeed
[14:00] <mainerror> *IF* carriers don't interfere with those plans.
[14:00] <usererror> ogra, I'm guessing it'll be released in about 2 hours (best guess kinda thing)??
[14:00] <Darkwing> LAMP stack on your nexus... with full VPN
[14:00] <rymate1234> mainerror, then don't buy it from a carrier
[14:00] <ogra_> usererror, it will be released once the testing is done :)
[14:00] <usererror> lol okay :)
[14:00] <_methods> wow say hello to your new data bill
[14:00] <usererror> haha
[14:01]  * Darkwing polishes his unlimited data
[14:01] <mutantkeyboard> :D
[14:01] <roxkYu> let's us do the testing...lolz..
[14:01] <roxkYu> just kidding...
[14:01]  * usererror makes sure the bill is paid to retain unlimited data
[14:01] <roxkYu> :-)
[14:01] <Darkwing> Not that my verizon phone will be able to run it for a bit :S
[14:01] <roxkYu> i don't know how to do it anyway.
[14:01] <bjaanes> Man i connected my computer to my mobile phone for data once. Out of reflex i just did the normal update shit i usually do in the terminal. My bill got nasty :(
[14:01] <mainerror> _methods: No one forces you to update while on mobile connection. You can update from a WiFi network.
[14:01] <_methods> i know
[14:01] <usererror> oh darkwing, I bet within 2 hours of the source being released someone will have a toro image for us
[14:02] <_methods> i was just saying
[14:02] <Darkwing> usererror: I'm waiting for it to start hacking for toro.
[14:02] <usererror> :D
[14:02] <Darkwing> I'm one of those who will be working on it...
[14:02] <_methods> toro not going to be supported?
[14:02] <mutantkeyboard> roxkYu: because smart guys from xda wanted to do a testing, Canonical has postponed release
[14:02] <usererror> yeah I want to do a UI overhaul.. all white on black
[14:02] <Darkwing> I doubt it... toro gets no love.
[14:02] <usererror> the Gnex looks so good with white on black
[14:02] <_methods> damn verizon
[14:03] <usererror> lol
[14:03] <mutantkeyboard> I have white Gnex
[14:03] <Darkwing> I'm hoping that they drop a white nexus 4
[14:03] <mainerror> I'm selling my ThinkPad X60 just to get my hands on a Gnex ...
[14:03] <usererror> well, I believe all the drivers are available independently at the same place you get the source for the gnex, but its probably a licensing issue for ubuntu that is holding it up...
[14:03] <ogra_> mutantkeyboard, thats kind of backwards
[14:04] <usererror> lol
[14:04] <mutantkeyboard> I see :)
[14:04] <usererror> my favorite thing about it is the amoled with the black bezel.. makes the screen disappear into the thing.. white?  would ruin that for me.. but I get some people love white electronics
[14:05] <mutantkeyboard> sorry guys, I'm a bit tired, I got up early this morning to have a job interview with my wife. she thought that she couldn't do it by herself :/
[14:05] <usererror> that is good of you :)
[14:05] <ogra_> you are interviewing your wife ?
[14:05] <usererror> lol
[14:05] <mainerror> heh
[14:05]  * ogra_ never thought of that
[14:05] <usererror> or interviewing for a wife?
[14:05] <bjaanes> You should *always* interview your wife...
[14:05] <mutantkeyboard> I mean, I went with her to do a job interview
[14:05] <usererror> lol
[14:05] <Darkwing> hehehe
[14:05] <mutantkeyboard> LOL
[14:06] <mutantkeyboard> well at least I made y'all laugh
[14:06] <usererror> :)
[14:06] <ogra_> good luck for her
[14:06] <mainerror> _"Honey, I'll call you back, alright? Thanks for coming."_
[14:06] <mutantkeyboard> hahahahah :D
[14:06] <mutantkeyboard> you got me on this one
[14:06] <ogra_> tell her 175 ppl in an IRC channel cross fingers for her
[14:06] <mutantkeyboard> will do thanks :D
[14:06] <ogra_> (until the image comes out and they need tehir fingers again)
[14:06] <Darkwing> ogra_: ++
[14:07] <mainerror> I can cross my toes ogra_
[14:07] <ogra_> so guys, we might need to delay that release more until that interview is done successfully
[14:07] <Yugge> Programming crossfingered is pretty hard.
[14:07] <mainerror> Mustitasking you know.
[14:07] <mutantkeyboard> anyhow guys... gotta go slowly ... have fun and talk to you later .. enjoy
[14:07] <ogra_> j/k indeed
[14:08] <usererror> I just hope the images come out in a form that I can flash them in my existing recovery.. that'd be rad.. then I can switch between them easily
[14:08] <Darkwing> Have a pot of coffee ready for hack-a-thon
[14:08] <usererror> via backups with all the data and everything
[14:08] <usererror> but I'm sure someone will wrap that up at some point either way, or I'll relearn how
[14:08] <usererror> :D
[14:09] <usererror> I wish I could set up a buzzer for when it comes out
[14:09] <bjaanes> You probably could
[14:09] <usererror> yeah but that means writing code.. and I'm about 4 hours overdue already
[14:09] <Darkwing> If you don't know yet... You might want to get an android SDK setup for the tools like fastboot for when you want to go back to Android...
[14:10] <usererror> if you are on ubuntu, fastboot and ADB are both in the repos
[14:10] <usererror> so you don't need the SDK
[14:10] <usererror> I really really hate eclipse, so for me that is a life saver
[14:10] <Darkwing> and maybe (If you don't have it) the stock image for your device.
[14:10] <bjaanes> Im thinking some script to monitor the touchinstall page, and just to make stuff difficult; some network programming to connect to an arduino with some sort of buzzer. Good way to kill time at least :D
[14:10] <usererror> lol yes that too
[14:10] <Darkwing> I did not know that... I do so much in Android I just have the SDK...
[14:11] <usererror> def do a pull of your stock images before flashing if you don't have that covered yet
[14:11] <timhansen> there are downloads for windows & mac that just contain fast boot & adb
[14:11] <usererror> ahh, I gave up on writing java
[14:11] <usererror> it just.. bugs me
[14:11] <usererror> and eclipse just makes me twitch
[14:11] <Darkwing> It's not so bad... then again, I've been doing it since `98
[14:11] <usererror> I jumped right in on qt creator though
[14:11] <usererror> yeah
[14:12] <nOStahl_> usererror: what do you not like about eclipse
[14:12] <usererror> most everything..
[14:12] <usererror> it just does not fit my workflow
[14:12] <nOStahl_> i've been using aptana studio 3 for web development lately
[14:12] <timhansen> eclipse feels bloated to me
[14:12] <timhansen> but i'm used to sublime
[14:12] <usererror> I cannot say it is a bad program, it just does not mesh with me personally.. also I had a lot of problems over the years with things not working right
[14:12] <bjaanes> Thats kinda the thing with eclipse, you gotta make it fit your workflow - but that takes a lot of time to get right :P
[14:12] <usererror> lol yes sublime is a winner
[14:12] <bjaanes> I dont like it myself either
[14:13] <usererror> I use gedit though.. I like my apt-get.. and sublime has been missing from the repos
[14:13] <usererror> yeah
[14:13] <Darkwing> as a KDE user I just use Kate... One of the best out there.
[14:13] <timhansen> lol, makes sense. it's not hard to extract it & add the dir to PATH tho :P
[14:13] <nOStahl> any of you busy do php, html, js, css work? what do you suggest to use
[14:13] <timhansen> nOStahl: sublime
[14:13] <Darkwing> I like Kate because it can highlight in so much.
[14:13] <netcurli> sublime
[14:14] <usererror> basically anything that takes more than 10 minutes to set up, I don't use.. that is because I do tend to break distros once in a while, and all those things I have to set up add up.. and it gets to be a 14 hour setup pretty fast
[14:14] <Darkwing> Plus, if I set it to python it auto sets the indents.
[14:14] <timhansen> usererror: write a shell script to add the dir to path? ;]
[14:14] <usererror> nOStahl: I use gedit, but sublime is good.. just a highlighting text editor is all you need.. geany is good too
[14:14] <usererror> lol
[14:14] <nOStahl> I use to love bluefish
[14:15] <timhansen> i used to use bluefish
[14:15] <timhansen> many years ago
[14:15] <nOStahl> but I bought a year old mbp for 500 bucks and am trying out mountain lion now heh
[14:15] <usererror> timhansen: basically I should have just made a VM just for android development :p
[14:15] <usererror> then just back up the vm
[14:15] <timhansen> truth, haha
[14:15] <juicyjones> nOStahl mountain lion is great IMO
[14:15] <timhansen> nOStahl: http://c758482.r82.cf2.rackcdn.com/Sublime%20Text%202.0.1.dmg
[14:15] <usererror> yes..
[14:15] <nOStahl> juicyjones: aye it is
[14:16] <nOStahl> looks like sublime is 70 bucks
[14:16] <nOStahl> eclipse is free...
[14:16] <timhansen> no
[14:16] <usererror> I would immediately dual boot linux and osx, keeping osx just for.. shits and giggles?  but thats just me
[14:16] <nOStahl> https://www.sublimetext.com/buy
[14:16] <mainerror> Sublime Text 2 is free as well.
[14:16] <timhansen> nOStahl: http://www.sublimetext.com/2
[14:16] <juicyjones> BBedit. Coda (!). XCode. Don't forget to install homebrew
[14:16] <timhansen> click download, instead of buy
[14:16] <timhansen> lol
[14:16] <_inf> Vim!
[14:16] <vibhav>  emacs!
[14:16] <Darkwing> jsut to see if I could I've written a java program in nano
[14:16] <juicyjones> If not BBEdit then TextWrangler, the free version
[14:16] <nOStahl> it says you can download for free evaluation
[14:16] <usererror> lol
[14:16] <ment0s> nano . lol
[14:17] <usererror> java in nano
[14:17] <nOStahl> usually that means it will cost after 30 days heh
[14:17] <usererror> that takes it
[14:17] <juicyjones> If you work with CSS at all CODA will change your life, nOStahl
[14:17] <usererror> yeah?
[14:17] <timhansen> nOStahl: nah, there's a nag screen every like 50th or 100th time you save
[14:17] <usererror> I'll look at coda
[14:17]  * Tak using eclipse with vim plugin for all c and c++ development on linux and osx
[14:17] <timhansen> nOStahl: but you just click cancel
[14:17] <timhansen> and then it goes away for another 50-100 saves
[14:17] <usererror> juicyjones: is coda osx only?
[14:17] <mainerror> Yea, it is an unlimited evaluation.
[14:18] <juicyjones> usererror yes. and it's too bad for all other platforms
[14:18] <nOStahl> well so far sublime fits the bill, as cross platform
[14:18] <usererror> yes..
[14:18] <juicyjones> For some reason OS X has the best text editors
[14:18] <usererror> very true juicyjones .. very true it does
[14:18] <nOStahl> mac developers have a bit of designer in them
[14:18] <juicyjones> it's frustrating when you have to use unix or windows!
[14:19] <usererror> lol
[14:19] <usererror> I don't use windows
[14:19] <juicyjones> Coda and BBEdit I miss the most when using windows or unix
[14:19] <usererror> I have banned it
[14:19] <nOStahl> I have one windows dev left on my team to convert
[14:19] <juicyjones> shrug, sometimes it's necessary for whatever reason. it's one reason I bought a MBP. Unix + pretty = power
[14:20] <usererror> I'll use OSX if I'm on someone elses machine, but I won't go near windont anymore.. but I'm not trying to start that debate so I should shut up about it :p
[14:20] <nOStahl> I am never on anyone else's machine, they are all inferior to my own :P
[14:21] <rymate1234> lol
[14:21] <Darkwing> I wish I could afford to get a Mac... I want to rewrite some of my mobile stuff for iOS but... I can't :/
[14:21] <ryansipes> usererror, I agree I won't touch Windows.  I'll tolerate a Mac.
[14:21] <usererror> so.. questions about the UI on ubuntu phone .. is it actually based on unity (the code itself) or is it a rewrite, or is it the whole unity package with an alternate UI for phones?
[14:21] <nOStahl> Darkwing: check craigslist all the college kids are upgrading to the retina mac's
[14:21] <juicyjones> you can use Visual Studio C# to write iOS apps now. I just saw an announcement yesterday on Ars about it.
[14:21] <nOStahl> I got a year old mbp for 500 bucks
[14:21] <MostHated> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38283365&postcount=319
[14:21] <timhansen> ogra_: any update on a timeframe? ;]
[14:22] <Darkwing> nOStahl: that's a good idea.
[14:22] <popey> timhansen: see /topic
[14:22] <ogra_> timhansen, its rectangular
[14:23] <nOStahl> well sublime is marginally smaller install than Aptana Studio 3, comes in at 23 megs vs aptana's 201
[14:23] <nOStahl> lol
[14:23] <usererror> get a mac of CL and a ipod touch.. you have to have a device to test on, and it has to be owned by you and tethered to your developer account.. but yeah, you have to test it on a real device according to the cats I know who do ios dev.. they say the emulator does not do the job
[14:23] <Darkwing> the girlfriend has an old iphone when she switched to Android.
[14:24] <Darkwing> and by old I mean the iPhone 4
[14:24] <MostHated> "What is broken:
[14:24] <MostHated> Radio does NOT work (internet, phone calls etc.)
[14:24] <MostHated> Nearly every app that is not listed above is either broken or just shows a sample image of how it will look like in the future"
[14:24] <MostHated> usb doesnt work it says, wtf?
[14:24] <usererror> so ogra... I take it my unity question went by you or is unanswerable, or has been asked too many times already?
[14:24] <Walther> MostHated: where is this?
[14:24] <ogra_> its a developer preview ....
[14:25] <MostHated> the link i just posted
[14:25] <ryansipes> MostHated, what are you quoting?
[14:25] <MostHated> the link i just posted
[14:25]  * Darkwing points to the xda link posted above
[14:26] <timhansen> MostHated: is that the image xda found & posted this morning? that the ubuntu team was testing, which delayed the release?
[14:26] <brian_> Hi All. I've got a MacBook Pro 9,2 and a GalaxyNote 2. I have Ubuntu 12.04LTS installed natively on the MacBook. The Note 2 has been rooted. I would love to use my MacBook without taking it out of the bag. Can I do this with the Note 2?
[14:26] <ogra_> timhansen, what other image would it be
[14:26] <ogra_> i doubt there are others out there
[14:26] <timhansen> ogra_: truth
[14:27] <usererror> okay, 4pm.. check
[14:27] <ogra_> people should keep in mind that this is a developer preview for something that is supposed to release in april 2014 ...
[14:27]  * timhansen looks around at all the impatient people
[14:28] <ogra_> and that it is released to find a community of devs that is willing to make the non working parts work
[14:28] <Darkwing> XDA and this channel will turn into "It doesn't work" forum.
[14:28] <frals> anyone dumped a package list yet of whats in the image?
[14:28] <timhansen> Darkwing: lol
[14:28] <timhansen> more than likely
[14:28] <frals> since theres still nothing about what middleware should/will be in the dist
[14:28] <nagu> Orga.. any updates?
[14:29] <Darkwing> The topic will change on an update.
[14:29] <ogra_> just watch the topic :)
[14:29] <nOStahl> does sublime text 2 have any sort of php debugging ability
[14:29] <usererror> why does it say "This or" now? lol
[14:29] <k1l_> is the nexus4 image supposed to have the desktop docking mode? and if so: what hardware is requiered for that?
[14:29] <mainerror> nOStahl: What do you call debugging ability?
[14:30] <mhall119> k1l_: I don't think any of the images will have that yet
[14:30] <nagu> Yes just watching from morning :-(
[14:30] <mainerror> Generally, there are myriads of packages you can install in ST2.
[14:30] <nOStahl> xdebug
[14:30] <k1l_> mhall119: ok
[14:30] <rymate1234> k1l_, probably not and I don't know
[14:30] <ogra_> mhall119, !
[14:31] <ogra_> good to have someone else here :)
[14:31]  * Darkwing snickers
[14:31] <juicyjones>  "Twitter user @stroughtonsmith claims that "Ubuntu Phone chroots & boots a QML shell on top of a CyanogenMod core OS sans Android UI"."
[14:31]  * ogra_ is only half capable of answering all tehse questions 
[14:31] <mainerror> juicyjones: Yea, we had that one already.
[14:31] <vibhav> Heh
[14:31] <smartboyhw> ogra_, add oil:P
[14:32] <timhansen> haha
[14:32] <timhansen> poor ogra_
[14:32] <ryansipes> I wonder if the XDA guy used the GSM version, because what I understood from the Mailing List is that radio would work.
[14:32] <Darkwing> I'm just waiting for ogra_ to start refering to the press pack
[14:33] <ogra_> lol
[14:33] <ogra_> i'm a dev, not a marketing guy :)
[14:33] <Darkwing> ogra_: I konw the feeling... except I'm a dev/community guy
[14:34] <smartboyhw> Who's the marketing guy here?
[14:34]  * smartboyhw is a QA guy
[14:34] <frals> get the tar and feathers!
[14:34]  * Darkwing points to the press pack on marketing 
[14:34] <frals> ... or is that not how you treat marketing ppl? :o
[14:34] <Walther> juicyjones: ...is that actually true or just trolling?
[14:35] <Darkwing> Walther: I would assume that 90% of the information out there is trolling
[14:35] <Darkwing> until source and images are dropped.
[14:36] <Walther> Sadly.
[14:37] <usererror> okay well I'm going to end my loitering here for now.. hope all goes smooth for the Ubuntu Devs :)
[14:42] <Darkwing> Oh boy, jono arrives. ogra_ now you have someone to point to :P:P
[14:42]  * ogra_ smells tablet images in the oven over there .... 
[14:43]  * jono looks innocently
[14:43] <Darkwing> Hey jono
[14:43] <rsalveti> morning
[14:43] <jono> hey Darkwing :-)
[14:43] <stylemistake> hey
[14:43] <ogra_> ah, its jono ... trhen s/oven/smoker/
[14:43] <jono> ogra_, :-)
[14:43] <stylemistake> UP has a swipe gesture to bring the last app back
[14:44] <ogra_> no, its not released yet ...
[14:44] <stylemistake> but has it the do the same thing, but in other direction?
[14:44] <Darkwing> ogra_: pre-empting?
[14:44] <ogra_> well, we're getting there
[14:45]  * Darkwing writes a script for ogra_ to auto reply to every entry "No, it's not released yet"
[14:45] <juicyjones> F5
[14:45] <stylemistake> Darkwing: xD
[14:45] <sada> hello
[14:45] <kukacz> hello to everyoane
[14:45] <Darkwing> I'm looking forward to UDS
[14:46] <Darkwing> Be good to see everyone again.
[14:46] <sada> ubuntu phone source
[14:46] <sada> ?
[14:46]  * Darkwing points to the topic
[14:46]  * juicyjones reads the topic.
[14:46]  * juicyjones looks at sada.
[14:46]  * juicyjones reads the topic again.
[14:47] <stylemistake> i already expect, how i am going to be pissed off switching between two apps in ubuntu phone
[14:47] <kukacz> when will be aviable ubuntu os fer galaxy nexus?
[14:47] <ogra_> soooon
[14:47] <mainerror> stylemistake: Why?
[14:47] <ogra_> be a little patient
[14:47] <stylemistake> mainerror: look
[14:47] <mainerror> Darkwing: Off-topic but where is it going to be? Was that announced already?
[14:47] <stylemistake> mainerror: i open a browser, go to an internet banking system
[14:48] <juicyjones> mainerror https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TouchInstallProcess
[14:48] <mainerror> juicyjones: I was referring to the UDS.
[14:48] <stylemistake> mainerror: then i open a gallery, to get a look on my card with codes
[14:48] <juicyjones> gotcha
[14:49] <stylemistake> mainerror: then i switch back to browser with a swipe
[14:49] <Darkwing> I mainerror I don't believe that it has been announced  but I would assume that it will be in the bay area again.
[14:49] <mainerror> Aw, bummer.
[14:49] <stylemistake> mainerror: but if i need them again, i can't recall them again without launching the app, there is no gesture for that
[14:50] <mainerror> I'm still all pissed off because I've missed the Denmark UDS ...
[14:50] <Darkwing> I know it will be May 6 - 9
[14:50] <mainerror> stylemistake: I see, but how's Android any better in that respect?
[14:51] <stylemistake> mainerror: it has a dedicated button for that
[14:51] <mainerror> I was there in May 2011, in Budapest.
[14:51] <stylemistake> mainerror: and it lists all recent apps
[14:51] <stylemistake> mainerror: not only the previous one
[14:52] <mainerror> stylemistake: Are you sure about that? http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone/design
[14:52] <ryansipes> stylemistake, you can show all running apps - see them in two places
[14:52] <kyler084> hi
[14:52] <ryansipes> stylemistake, if you swipe up from the bottom it appears as though it will open up the HUD showing running apps
[14:53] <ryansipes> stylemistake, Also shows running apps on homescreen (based on the videos)
[14:53] <stylemistake> ryansipes: hmm
[14:53] <ment0s> guys, sorry for asking but I cannot see it in log ..., is there any OTA ? roughly ? I clicking refresh button till 00:00 lol
[14:53] <kyler084> =1
[14:53] <kyler084> +1
[14:53] <Darkwing> I know they are saying soon.
[14:54] <MostHated> earlier images are released
[14:54] <Darkwing> Watch the topic for changes.
[14:54] <kyler084> on the wiki ?
[14:54] <ogra_> no images were reeased
[14:54] <MostHated> i have them
[14:54] <ogra_> *released
[14:54]  * mainerror points to topic
[14:54] <ogra_> you have something you pulled from mega
[14:54] <ogra_> how do youo know that didnt inject a virus into your LAN ?
[14:55]  * Darkwing grins
[14:55] <ogra_> when running it first
[14:55] <MostHated> i didnt open them
[14:55] <ogra_> lucky you
[14:55] <ogra_> :)
[14:55] <mainerror> :D
[14:55] <MostHated> im not retarded lol
[14:55] <ryansipes> Why would anyone want to install the allegedly real image when they can wait a few hours and get the real thing
[14:56] <kyler084> im going to be porting ubuntu to htc desire as soon as imgs and source is released
[14:56] <Tak> I'm pretty sure you figured it out at "wait a few hours" ;-)
[14:56] <ryansipes> Maybe earlier in the week, but wouldn't make any sense day of release.
[14:56] <ogra_> kyler084, ++
[14:57] <kyler084> :)
[14:57] <ogra_> everyone should port it to their favorite device ... or write some apps
[14:57] <ogra_> or ... BOTH !
[14:57] <rsalveti> kyler084: we'll be posting a porting guide as well later today
[14:57] <rsalveti> yeah
[14:57] <kyler084> agree both aha
[14:57] <kyler084> rsalveti awesome
[14:57] <stylemistake> kyler084: HTC HD2 is not an exception :D
[14:57] <rsalveti> everything is now *in progress* :-)
[14:57] <ryansipes> Tak, Well folks should take a breathe and jump on youtube and watch videos of the Justice League.  That will cheer them up.
[14:58] <kyler084> lol :)
[14:58] <ogra_> http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/18y9ij/when_this_post_is_3_hours_old_canonical_will/
[14:58] <ogra_> tsk, nonsense
[14:58] <ogra_> we never released anything at GMT
[14:58] <ogra_> only at UTC
[14:58]  * ogra_ tickles awe_ 
[14:58] <SailorMoon> Release it now, problem solved.
[14:58] <stylemistake> something tells me it will be released at 23:59:59, today
[14:58] <kyler084> it will be interesting to see the performance we get from htc desire tbh
[14:59] <ogra_> stylemistake, thats true for some TZ i would guess
[14:59] <stylemistake> and it will be legit, still
[14:59]  * awe_ needs more of a slap to wake-up...
[14:59]  * Darkwing pulls out his moto milestone
[14:59] <roxkYu> i will be sleeping then..
[14:59] <MostHated> they said 4pm on xda, but who knows
[14:59]  * ogra_ gives awe_ an espresso and a slap
[14:59] <roxkYu> tomorrow morning will check on it again...
[14:59] <roxkYu> thanks for the update!
[15:00] <roxkYu> tomorrow, will this forum be still active?
[15:00] <kyler084> i know this sounds sad but shaking with excitement aha :D
[15:00] <ogra_> roxkYu, you mean this IRC channel ?
[15:00] <roxkYu> yes yes..
[15:00] <nbf> I'm really bummed the nexus 4 can't support 2560x1600 displays (for desktop mode)
[15:00] <ogra_> i think it is permanent, yes
[15:00] <roxkYu> that's great..
[15:00] <ryansipes> kyler084, It is exciting.  Finally a mobile OS I really want to use.
[15:00] <nbf> I was looking forward to ubuntu phone until I realized that
[15:01] <kyler084> ryansnipes agreed
[15:01] <nbf> I'm more excited about the desktop aspect than the phone, lol
[15:01] <ogra_> but thats not ubuntus fault
[15:01] <roxkYu> i guess i will have a lot of question to ask, before i will clone the image to my nexus
[15:01] <stylemistake> oh, i also don't want to get my android wiped
[15:01] <nbf> it'll be awesome to have a handheld device that can be a desktop
[15:01] <SailorMoon> Release the Hounds.
[15:02] <ryansipes> Um... Release the Kraken?
[15:02] <nOStahl> its too bad that sublime text opens up a text file when it should open a terminal….
[15:02] <stylemistake> i mean, having cwm backup, that can be restored later
[15:02] <mainerror> nOStahl: huh?
[15:02] <nbf> they need to create Sublime Term :)
[15:02] <nOStahl> ya
[15:03] <ryansipes> Is anyone in here working on any of the Core Apps?
[15:03] <Darkwing> create a nandroid and then pull it before you flash ubuntu in case something happens
[15:03] <MostHated> dost thou even hoist?
[15:03] <ryansipes> Specifically the Terminal team?  That's what I need on my uPhone to make this really awesome.
[15:03] <roxkYu> maybe someone here who can do a complete job (ie..backup, cloning of image, etc) upload a demo on YouTube
[15:03] <roxkYu> then give us a link here...
[15:04] <roxkYu> everyone then be able to do it safely and happily!!
[15:04] <roxkYu> LOLz
[15:04] <roxkYu> hmm.. someone from Canonical??
[15:04] <Darkwing> becasue each device is different... XDA has a ton of information on flashing a custom recovervy, making backups etc.
[15:04] <stylemistake> Darkwing: it will be a mindfuck to restore nandroid without cwm (which can possibly get replaced by UP)
[15:05] <Yugge> roxkYu: fairly sure that a guide of some sort will be posted on the official site.
[15:05] <SailorMoon> I'm scared lol
[15:06] <roxkYu> Yugge:  ok..
[15:06] <SailorMoon> How well optimized is this, what if the device overheats?
[15:06] <lonequid> roxkYu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDsADuxb43Q&feature=youtu.be
[15:06] <MostHated> then that sucks
[15:06] <kknikolas> What if it's explodes. Waranty is void with rooting it :Z
[15:06] <SailorMoon> Battery life while sleeping in comparison to Android 4.2.2?
[15:06] <roxkYu> Thanks lonequid
[15:06] <Darkwing> stylemistake: If you copy it with the folder recursivly, you can put it back once you reinstall cwm or, in my case TWRP
[15:07] <lonequid> np. that's from the leaked images, nobody knows if they are the same as what will be released
[15:07] <roxkYu> ok
[15:07] <ogra_> SailorMoon, really depends what you leave running on the phone before going to bed ...
[15:08] <ogra_> mine doesnt drain much while i sleep usually
[15:08] <kknikolas> when exactly will it release today? i mean in london its 15:07
[15:08] <roxkYu> see you all guys.. going to rest soon.
[15:08] <SailorMoon> Android will clock down really slow when sleeping, even if an intense program is running in the background
[15:08] <Great_Day> kknikolas: 16:07 if I am correct
[15:08] <Avedo> Hi there!
[15:08] <kknikolas> no that is in germany where i am :)
[15:09] <Avedo> I have a problem with qtcreator.
[15:09] <nbf> fuck I hate pulseaudio
[15:09] <nbf> !!!!
[15:09] <nbf> I really hope ubuntu phone uses something else :)
[15:09] <Great_Day> uh?
[15:09] <Great_Day> Avedo: what problem
[15:09] <Great_Day> ?
[15:09] <stylemistake> nbf: continue
[15:10] <ogra_> nbf, please keep the language family  friendly
[15:10] <stylemistake> pulseaudio is awesome
[15:10] <Avedo> Since I installed the ubuntu-sdk I was able to launch applications using it, but I wasn't able to create new QtQuick Projects. So I reinstalled qtcreator and since then nothing worked. QtCreator starts, says that plugins could not be loaded and then hangs.
[15:10] <MostHated> do people bring their families in to the ubuntu-phone channel these days?
[15:10] <popey> MostHated: my daughter sometimes watches what I type, yeah
[15:11] <ogra_> dunno, but they could
[15:11] <popey> it's not up for debate though.
[15:11] <Great_Day> Avedo: hmm... sorry can' t help with that, haven' t installed the sdk version... just the qtquick etc...
[15:11] <ogra_> its a rule of thumb for all ubuntu challels actually
[15:11] <ogra_> *cannels
[15:11] <ogra_> bah
[15:11]  * ogra_ gives up
[15:11]  * popey hands ogra_ "Channels"
[15:11] <kknikolas> Avedo: I have the sdk and evrything runs great
[15:11] <ogra_>  thnaks :P
[15:12] <MostHated> "Rule of thumb" refers to beating women
[15:12] <Tak> ^^
[15:12] <mainerror> wat
[15:12] <stylemistake> are there any backports from 13.04 to 12.10?
[15:12] <SailorMoon> No it doesnt, MostHated lol
[15:12] <MostHated> yes it does
[15:12] <bobweaver> tick-tock tick-tock
[15:12] <SailorMoon> it refusers to the thumbs up or down used when feeding people to Lions
[15:12] <SailorMoon> back in the olden days
[15:12] <popey> Enough.
[15:13]  * SailorMoon gives popey some Spinich
[15:13] <popey> it's popey not popeye
[15:13] <popey> lrn2spell
[15:13] <SailorMoon> lol <3
[15:13] <popey> :D
[15:13] <mainerror> lol
[15:13] <Darkwing> awe popey, do you need more coffee? :D
[15:13] <SailorMoon> im just teasing you lol
[15:13] <popey> probably less
[15:13] <Tak> spinach coffee
[15:13] <Avedo> Mhhh, ... is there something like install dependencies?
[15:13] <kknikolas> Avedo: Ubuntu 12.10
[15:14] <Darkwing> Meh, I think I owe you a drink at the next UDS
[15:14] <Avedo> Yeah!
[15:14] <Avedo> Installing qtcreator I get always: Unknown media type in type 'all/all' ....
[15:14] <mainerror> Eeek! Spinach coffee? I don't even ...
[15:14] <Yugge> SailorMoon: The thumb refered to the sword, so there where no thumbs up or down, it was thumbs or no thumbs ;)
[15:14] <Tak> I'd try it
[15:15] <MostHated> "In the United States, legal decisions in Mississippi (1824) and North Carolina (1868 and 1874) make reference to—and reject—an unnamed "old doctrine" or "ancient law" by which a man was allowed to beat his wife with a stick no wider than his thumb"
[15:16] <bobweaver> I sure do hope that the bzr branchs get released today (I took off work for this )
[15:16] <darthmuffins> delete pRuleOfThumb;
[15:16] <Tak> hungarian notation: decidedly unfriendly
[15:16] <kknikolas> Avedo: Can you create other applications with qtcreator. so does only the qtquick don't work?
[15:16] <darthmuffins> Tak: i agree... but funny :)
[15:17] <Avedo> no I couldn't do anything with qtcreator yet
[15:17] <oneadvent> still not done yet
[15:17] <oneadvent> yea i can't even get notepad to work
[15:18] <Avedo> I could I purge the whole qt4 stuff?
[15:20] <brian_>  Hi All. I've got a MacBook Pro 9,2 and a GalaxyNote 2. I have Ubuntu 12.04LTS installed natively on the MacBook. The Note 2 has been rooted. I would love to use my MacBook without taking it out of the bag. Can I do this with the Note 2?
[15:21] <brian_> Can this be done through remote desktop?
[15:21] <SailorMoon> assuming the laptop isnt asleep, i dont see why not
[15:21] <SailorMoon> isnt asleep/is connected to the internet
[15:21] <kknikolas> Avedo: http://qt.digia.com/Support/
[15:22] <SailorMoon> brian_: check into Teamviewer
[15:22] <kyler084> :)
[15:22] <brian_> SailorMoon, Ok, cool. I'm kinda noobish so I'm just looking for a springboard. Teamviewer can be found in synaptic?
[15:22] <Avedo> kknikolas: Thanks I currently try to remove the whole stuff and reinstall it.
[15:23] <Avedo> Is there a way I could uninstall all qt4 packages?
[15:24] <Wouterx> still no img?
[15:25] <kknikolas> Avedo: That should happen if you remove the package with the software center
[15:26] <ogra_> Wouterx, if everyone in this channel has shown me an app for ubuntu phone he/she wrote while waiting, we'll release
[15:26] <kyler084> Wouter, not yet
[15:26] <n00b_dust> brian_ I don't think so. You'll have to get it from their website
[15:26] <darthmuffins> Wouterx: see channel topic
[15:26] <kknikolas> ogra_: i wrote half of an web app
[15:27] <krabador> Topic
[15:27] <SailorMoon> Can we has N7 image now?
[15:27] <ogra_> kknikolas, great, so you'll get half a release :)
[15:27] <n00b_dust> brian_, or if you're looking for just basic stuff like shutting down your macbook / killing a process or that kind of stuff, just use an ssh client on your phone. You will have to learn a few basic commands though if you're not familiar with them
[15:28] <kknikolas> ogra_: already released. sry :D
[15:28] <kyler084> kknikolas ???????
[15:28] <ogra_> your half app ?
[15:28] <brian_> n00b_dust , I want to be able to see my desktop and use my stylist to do work on my MacBook (Ubuntu).
[15:28] <kknikolas> that was the second half of the app
[15:29] <vibhav> ogra_: I semi-posted my chess engine to Ubuntu Phone
[15:29] <vibhav> Ported *
[15:29] <ogra_> so another half app
[15:29] <brian_> n00b_dust, but I want to do this on my Note2 screen
[15:29] <ogra_> you two should work together and make it one
[15:29] <n00b_dust> brian_, yeah then you need a software like Teamviewer or VNC.
[15:29] <SailorMoon> i was promised Ubuntu for Tablet would run any ubuntu app, was i lied to?
[15:29] <kknikolas> ogra_: i actually did. during our conversation ^
[15:29] <brian_> I'm dloading teamviewer now
[15:30] <jbooth> I have an app I'm stuck on because my desktop doesn't have an accelerometer, and I'm trying to tie into that at this point. I won't say it is a useful app but hey.
[15:30] <SailorMoon> TeamViewer is the least complex, they handle the connections for you
[15:30] <n00b_dust> brian_, you'll need to install Teamviewer on both the devices and make sure they're connected to the internet
[15:30] <ogra_> SailorMoon, who promised that ? an older man with candy ?
[15:30] <ogra_> dont listen to these !
[15:30] <SailorMoon> ogra_: the ubuntu guy
[15:30] <SailorMoon> ogra_: i dont think he had candy
[15:30] <Tassadar> but they have candyyyy!
[15:30] <ogra_> frank ubuntu or jim ubuntu ?
[15:30] <brian_> n00b_dust, can they be connected via bluetooth?
[15:30] <SailorMoon> ogra_: the one going bald..? Lol i dunno
[15:30] <n00b_dust> SailorMoon: did they say they had more candy in the back of the van? :P
[15:30] <SailorMoon> With the british accent
[15:31] <Tak> x11vnc is pretty straightforward...
[15:31] <kknikolas> i refresh the touchinstallprogress website evrey 5 seconds
[15:31] <darthmuffins> kknikolas: me too
[15:31] <n00b_dust> brian_ Bluetooth transfer rate is way too slow, you wouldn't be able to transfer so much data that way
[15:31] <SailorMoon> Bluetooth lol
[15:31] <kknikolas> darthmuffins: and also i subscribed to that page
[15:31] <brian_> n00b_dust, what about via usb cable?
[15:32] <darthmuffins> kknikolas: ditto :)
[15:32] <jbooth> xda had a note it was going to be released 4pm GMT, so ~30 minutes from now.
[15:32] <n00b_dust> brian_ Use a VNC client. and enable wifi tethering on your laptop to keep both devices on same network
[15:32] <kknikolas> i was up today on 00:00 London Time
[15:32] <ogra_> jbooth, nah, we dont release at GMT times, onlt at UTC
[15:32] <ogra_> *only
[15:33] <kyler084> lol any specific time ?
[15:33] <n00b_dust> brian_ This might be a stupid question but what can your macbook do that your Note 2 can't? :P
[15:33] <SailorMoon> n00b_dust: ive always had trouble with thos adhoc networks on Android
[15:34] <ogra_> sure, the time we release will have an hour, a minute and a second ... each being very specific
[15:34] <nbf> I have a Note 10.1 and I love it
[15:34] <nbf> but it's much more limited than a desktop (on purpose)
[15:34] <kyler084> orga_, ahaha
[15:34] <Tassadar> so, soon
[15:34] <Tassadar> (c)
[15:34] <n00b_dust> SailorMoon, yeah, thats why I asked him to create an adhoc from his macbook. adhoc from phone will drain his battery fast
[15:34] <SailorMoon> i mean connect to adhoc networks
[15:34] <brian_> n00b_dust, I don't know (yet) what a VNC client is but I think you've given me enough info to start with. Thanks
[15:34] <SailorMoon> Iv enever succeeded on any of my android devices
[15:35] <jbooth> orga_ that's good, I don't like it when time is mean. Or even average. I'd rather time be nice.
[15:35] <kknikolas> jbooth: can u give me the link?
[15:35] <n00b_dust> brian_ get an android vnc viewer (or something similar named app) on your note. Ubuntu already has VNC server on it, but disabled by default if i'm not mistaken
[15:35] <ogra_> jbooth, :)
[15:36] <jbooth> kknikolas: not conveniently, I'm afraid. Search xda forums for ubuntu, its in the top-3 hits from yesterday.
[15:36] <kknikolas> jbooth: ty got it
[15:36] <n00b_dust> SailorMoon, I've never had a problem with any of those. Though sometimes my laptop gives me troubles with WPA/WPA2 connections, no matter what OS I use. Its strange
[15:37] <brian_> n00b_dust, sorry, just saw your question. Well, the MacBook cannot fit in the palm of my hand. I sometimes travel for hours by crowded train (I currently live in China) and don't have enough elbow room to use a laptop. So, I thought if I could power-up my laptop and leave it in the bag, using the Note 2 , with the stylist, I could do whatever I want on my laptop through the Note screen.
[15:37] <SailorMoon> 143MB audio driver? for reals!?
[15:38] <n00b_dust> brian_ No what i meant to ask was, what app do you've on your macbook that doesn't have an alternative on your note 2?
[15:38] <brian_> Libreoffice
[15:38] <brian_> Scribus
[15:38] <Herp> Anyone in here has an idea /when/ the dev preview will be released?
[15:39] <robin-gloster_> ogra_ your responses are awesome :)
[15:39] <nbf> any minute
[15:39] <kknikolas> http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/18y9ij/when_this_post_is_3_hours_old_canonical_will/
[15:39] <Herp> i have this "any minute" feel since 24:00 yesterday :3
[15:39] <k1l> Herp: in the evening time
[15:39] <stylemistake> Herp: tomorrow it will be released with 99.9% probability :)
[15:39] <k1l> like every release since ages
[15:40] <kknikolas> Herp: me2
[15:40] <stylemistake> *will have been
[15:40] <nbf> anyone know if it will support desktop mode with this release?
[15:40] <SailorMoon> i was told no, nbf
[15:40] <nbf> it seems like that's the killer feature
[15:40] <brian_> n00b_dust, I'd also like to access all the files I have on my MacBook. Or simply watch a movie.
[15:40] <Herp> sorry i never was excitied about any ubuntu release like this time, so i have no idea how they normally do it. thx for clearing this out (and the reddit link)
[15:40] <nbf> oh that sucks
[15:40] <nbf> that's the main draw
[15:40] <nbf> they should just call this release "not android"
[15:40] <SailorMoon> it's a developer preview
[15:40] <SailorMoon> not a release
[15:40] <n00b_dust> brian_ Yeah, VNC can do all that for you.
[15:41] <nbf> well they are releasing stuff
[15:41] <nbf> so it's a release
[15:41] <nbf> it's just not a stable release
[15:41] <kyler084> lol
[15:41] <SailorMoon> theyre creating it so people develop for the new Interface
[15:41] <Herp> thats what i want ;)
[15:41] <n00b_dust> Will the stable release come out with the 13.04 final release?
[15:41] <stylemistake> the first thing i will port to ubuntu phone is MINECRAFT
[15:41] <SailorMoon> no
[15:41] <SailorMoon> stable comes out 14.04
[15:41] <MostHated> wtf "Twitter user @stroughtonsmith claims that "Ubuntu Phone chroots & boots a QML shell on top of a CyanogenMod core OS sans Android UI"."
[15:41] <brian_> n00b_dust, thanks, I'll give it a try. Play Store android-vnc-viewer looks promising
[15:41] <nbf> it's hard to imagine that they aren't going to include a desktop mode
[15:41] <nbf> considering they had it working for the atrix?
[15:42] <SailorMoon> nbf: Like i said, i havnt used it, ive only been told no
[15:42] <lilstevie> MostHated, eh from what I saw in the leaked image not so much
[15:42] <nbf> but if they don't, it makes me glad I didn't buy a nexus 4 (I was planning on getting one for testing)
[15:42] <kyler084> where is this leaked image !!?
[15:42] <Hairo> Any other existing android device is being planned?
[15:42] <lilstevie> MostHated, there is an android component there, but that is more for bionic/libhybris
[15:42] <MostHated> i see
[15:42] <n00b_dust> nbf, I'm guessing most of the apps on it aren't ready for the dual interface.
[15:42] <MostHated> "A build.prop file found in the image seems to lend support to this rumour"
[15:42] <SailorMoon> you want desktop mode on a 4 inch phone? i dont think the yeven plan on including desktop mode of phones, ever
[15:42] <nbf> ...
[15:43] <ogra_> nbf, it will be there eventually, just not in the first images
[15:43] <MostHated> hopefully that is not what it is : \
[15:43] <nbf> you plug the slimport into your display with usb keyboard/mouse
[15:43] <nbf> instance desktop
[15:43] <nbf> *instant desktop
[15:43] <SailorMoon> oh, they might do that
[15:43] <SailorMoon> i always forget about that, ive never had a device  with an hdmi port
[15:43] <nbf> that was the Ubuntu For Android's killer app on the atrix
[15:43] <stylemistake> nbf: you underrate the nexus 4
[15:43] <nbf> I didn't say that because of the nexus 4
[15:43] <lilstevie> MostHated, the process branches off to ubuntu reasonably early
[15:44] <nbf> but because desktop mode was the main ability I wanted
[15:44] <n00b_dust> SailorMoon, get an HDMI -> VGA converter then. Those exist I believe
[15:44] <jbooth> resolution on the 4" phone >> 13" laptop. Just mount it on a hat close to your eyes.
[15:44] <nbf> and if it's not there, then I have no reason to buy the nexus 4 (other than it's a sweet smartphone but I already have one of those ;)
[15:44] <SailorMoon> lol
[15:44] <SailorMoon> I have terrible vision :P
[15:45] <kknikolas> i think if the release is in 15 minutes i'm going to destroy my f5 key
[15:45] <MostHated> aparently according to reddit, the images should be released in 15 minutes
[15:45] <kyler084> lol
[15:45] <MostHated> ah ^
[15:45] <MostHated> what he said
[15:45] <ogra_> nbf, sure you do, you can tell us how you would like it to work and help testing it while its being implemented
[15:46] <SailorMoon> i destroy my F5 key every time the clock nears :00
[15:46] <netcurli> https://twitter.com/ubuntu/status/304616479016484864
[15:46] <Hairo> kknikolas, try the autoreload addon for fiirefox
[15:46] <nbf> I'm not going to drop $300 bucks to test a mobile platform that's inferior to android
[15:46] <Stskeeps> rsalveti: i can merge all the APLv2 stuff without big problem, but we might have to work a bit to make things work with the new different egl window system implementations
[15:46] <Stskeeps> rsalveti: you can have your lgplv3 bits externally but the bits in particular could co-exist in tree
[15:46] <nbf> if it was innovative I would consider it
[15:46] <lilstevie> nbf, android is the inferior product here
[15:46] <kknikolas> ogra_: so here the half web app <3 http://nikolask.de/notice
[15:46] <stylemistake> SailorMoon: then you need 15 keyboards to destroy
[15:46] <nbf> so hopefully we see desktop mode :)
[15:47] <nbf> that's silly
[15:47] <Stskeeps> rsalveti: libhardware being lgplv3 looks a bit funky since the original one was apl, to my knowledge
[15:47] <nbf> android has been through a few iteration cycles, ubuntu phone is an alpha product right now
[15:47] <nbf> ubuntu phone could be great but android is definitely better at the moment
[15:47] <ogra_> kknikolas, awesome !
[15:47] <rsalveti> Stskeeps: right, we can change as well, we just put our stuff as l/gplv3 as that's our default license
[15:47] <lilstevie> nbf, if you say so, android is pure crap for a lot of things
[15:47] <kknikolas> ogra_: tried to use ubuntu phone design
[15:48] <nbf> lilstevie: cool story bro
[15:48] <rsalveti> Stskeeps: we'll be cleaning it up to make sure we don't break the other usage as well of it
[15:48] <rsalveti> Stskeeps: people moved things around using just make for some unknown reason, so need to move that as well
[15:48] <stylemistake> nbf: ubuntu phone has less generic marketing issues than windows phone
[15:48]  * ogra_ sectrely hands kknikolas a release under the desk
[15:48] <lilstevie> nbf, for starters android permissions system
[15:48] <MostHated> boo "#Ubuntu Touch Developer Preview code released soon for developers' spare devices. Not consumer ready just yet!"
[15:48] <Stskeeps> rsalveti: besides that, things look good
[15:48] <rsalveti> Stskeeps: and I know that one wrong hook function might break things around
[15:48] <Hairo> i hope the xda guys get these images to work on other devices
[15:48] <MostHated> wish i had a "spare" nexus 4 instead of my only..
[15:48]  * Tak also
[15:49] <davidoffbeat> Does desktop mode require an ubuntu desktop?
[15:49] <nbf> I wonder if they have an x86 version that will run in virtualbox
[15:49] <MostHated> maybe they can port it to my "spare" evo 3d i dont use
[15:49] <ogra_> MostHated, you are kind of focused on the bad news, are you ?
[15:49] <Stskeeps> rsalveti: i'm in denmark for the next week or so, when i'm back we can look more constructively at it
[15:49] <stylemistake> i hope HD2 is the first to get a port
[15:49]  * Tak perk up @ mention of dk
[15:49] <Hairo> nbf, that would be vary nice to test out
[15:49] <rsalveti> Stskeeps: cool, sure
[15:49] <kknikolas> ogra_: that's why i love webapps. u can release them in 2s
[15:49] <MostHated> well, yes. the bad news is that it seems it is not usable really for someone who needs their phone for phone things
[15:50] <kyler084> the second the preview goes live, expect a port for htc desire within 2 hours !!
[15:50] <Stskeeps> rsalveti: i'm not terribly convinced of the lgplv3 there, if we really want to make a dent in android's advantage, we'd give everybody a good reason to use it
[15:50] <Stskeeps> rsalveti: ie, something like aplv2, but, that's a deeper discussion
[15:50] <ogra_> MostHated, and the words "developer preview" didnt kind of indicate that for you ?
[15:50] <timhansen> lol
[15:50] <Hairo> i have a spare atrix that would like to try this
[15:50] <Herp> cant i call people with it? O_o
[15:50] <rsalveti> Stskeeps: yeah, v3 is compatible with aplv2, but I know it's tricky
[15:50] <kknikolas> Herp: yes
[15:50] <Tak> to be fair, there are different interpretations of "developer preview"
[15:51] <Stskeeps> rsalveti: yep
[15:51] <rsalveti> we can move ours to aplv2 if needed, lets discuss that more later :-)
[15:51] <rsalveti> open to suggestions
[15:51] <Stskeeps> :nod:
[15:51] <Hairo> great
[15:51] <nagu> Orga... like to know image status.. still waiting.. :(
[15:51] <Herp> thats not nice, i usually use my nexus as main phone :3
[15:51] <Hairo> Building?
[15:51] <kyler084> my fingers starting to hurt pressing f5
[15:51] <Hairo> do you even auto reload?
[15:52] <quadomatic> Everyone backup their phones yet?
[15:52] <kyler084> yh
[15:52] <kknikolas> kyler084: i should write me a bot for that
[15:52] <wait4phone> yep
[15:52] <Tassadar> don't you wanna just get DDoS bot instead of doing it manually? .)
[15:52] <benkaiser> dpm: when is the touch install process info going live? Its the 22nd of Feb here in Australia
[15:52] <kknikolas> quadomatic: yep. 6 hours ago ^
[15:52] <wait4phone> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch
[15:52] <quadomatic> mine's backing up now, I wish I remembered to do this sooner
[15:52] <wait4phone> wait
[15:52] <dpm> benkaiser, please be patient, not everyone lives in Australia :)
[15:53] <nbf> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[15:53]  * F41L shakes fist
[15:53] <n00b_dust> wait4phone's link is a bit messed up, or is it my browser cache?
[15:54] <nbf> http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/gomobile/
[15:54] <Herp> its coming *O*
[15:54] <bobweaver> Still not released ? 😲😲😲😲😲😲 ?
[15:54] <F41L> https. n00b_dust
[15:54] <Hairo> i'm limited to an lg nitro hd, a moto defy and an atrix, no nexus :(
[15:54] <Eax> Does calling / texting work?
[15:54] <F41L> calling is reported to work.
[15:54] <wait4phone> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch says last updated 4 min ago and looks broken, but links to the usual https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[15:54] <F41L> I don't know about GSM data.
[15:54] <ogra_> bobweaver, we waited just for you
[15:54] <F41L> Which would really suck if it didn't
[15:55] <Eax> F41L, ok - thanks :) Time will tell I guess! 5 minutes time :P
[15:55] <bobweaver> ogra_,  lol
[15:55] <wait4phone> Release notes! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes
[15:55] <n00b_dust> Gather around, everyone. Its time to cut the cake :P
[15:55] <kknikolas> gsm = utc right?
[15:55] <F41L> hmm
[15:55] <nbf> I assume the android base is probably for future app compatibility?
[15:56] <F41L> This page does not exist yet. You can create a new empty page, or use one of the page templates.
[15:56] <Avedo> nbf: No
[15:56] <Hairo> aparently they're going to make a guide on porting it https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
[15:56] <lilstevie> kknikolas, no, gsm is a mobile communications spec
[15:56] <kyler084> yep
[15:56] <mainerror> Hairo: YAY!
[15:56] <Hairo> it's just a placeholder
[15:56] <Hairo> by now
[15:56] <kknikolas> lilstevie: ah ok. all i need is the time we have @home
[15:57] <wait4phone> release notes, Nexus 4 section: In rare circumstances, the Nexus4 may get into a state where it may not boot at all after the battery is drained ( even into recovery ). If this happens, the only way to restore it is to disassemble the back of the phone and unplug/plug the battery connector.
[15:57] <Eax> "Mobile data is not supported, data is available via Wi-Fi only.
[15:57] <Eax> "
[15:57] <F41L> nnnnooooooo
[15:57] <Yugge> Well, It's got sms and phone over GSM, that's good enough for me. :)
[15:57] <F41L> *darth vader no*
[15:58] <nbf> yep so no desktop mode
[15:58] <nbf> epic fail
[15:58] <lilstevie> not really
[15:58] <ogra_> huh ?
[15:58] <lilstevie> desktop mode on a screen that small is not friendly
[15:58] <nbf> did you eat paint chips as a kid
[15:58]  * wait4phone is lucky to have Galaxy Nexus
[15:58] <mainerror> nbf: How's that an epic fail? I mean it is a *developer preview* ...
[15:58] <quadomatic> lol no mms or mobile data? Probably shouldn't install then...
[15:59] <wastrel> nbf don't be a poop
[15:59] <nbf> http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
[15:59] <Hairo> hangout tomorrow for porting at 15:00 UTC
[15:59] <kknikolas> 1 minute!!!
[15:59]  * tbgconnor is hoping that ubuntu phone is not just an android skin
[15:59] <nbf> ^^ ubuntu for android desktop mode
[15:59] <rsalveti> Hairo: we're working on the porting guide at this moment :-)
[15:59] <om26er> tbgconnor, its definitely not ;)
[15:59] <sergiusens> tbgconnor: it's not an android skin
[15:59] <lilstevie> nbf, and you expect an early preview to have the full desktop convergence
[15:59] <tbgconnor> ok good
[15:59] <nbf> did you not see my link
[15:59] <brian_> n00b_dust, I was just thinking, I'd rather control my MacBook by Note2 via usb cable. Is this possible?
[15:59] <Hairo> rsalveti, THANKS!!
[15:59] <sergiusens> tbgconnor: but it is a preview
[15:59] <nathris> just deleted my entire local storage thanks to an mtp bug, its a good start
[15:59] <bobweaver> work on the "Checking out the source code " Link j/k
[15:59] <nbf> they've worked on that for a long time (assuming it was ever real and not vaporware)
[16:00] <tbgconnor> well, I understand that the functionality will be limited due to that fact
[16:00] <wastrel> ubuntu for android is not the same as ubuntu phone
[16:00] <F41L> lilstevie, obviously we have hdmi cables to connect to an appropriate sized monitor >.>
[16:00] <smartboyhw> Time is up now....
[16:00] <lilstevie> nbf, I did see your link, that is an entirely different product
[16:00] <nbf> slimport you moron
[16:00] <mainerror> nbf: http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone/operators-and-oems
[16:00] <nbf> it's basically mini displayport
[16:00] <nathris> F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5
[16:00] <nbf> you get usb and video (and audio)
[16:00] <bobweaver> nathris,  lol
[16:00] <guest1__> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/quantal/mwc-demo/
[16:00] <n00b_dust> brian_ I don't think so. There is no such method that I'm aware of
[16:01] <brian_> n00b_dust, ok, thanks
[16:01] <ogra_> guest1__, hey you are fast
[16:01] <nbf> fuck ubuntu phone, I can't wait to see it fail out like canonical's other vaporware
[16:01] <F41L> ubuntu for android, how in the hell does one get ahold of that? I emailed canonical about it ages ago, never got a response
[16:01] <oneadvent> ok i've waited like you asked, go ahead and release it now
[16:01]  * ogra_ is still syncing, give it a minute
[16:01] <stylemistake> they say, apps are native
[16:01] <oneadvent> ogra_: DO IT
[16:01] <kyler084> !!!!
[16:01] <kyler084> 4pm
[16:01] <tbgconnor> as native as java
[16:01] <tbgconnor> lol
[16:01] <lilstevie> wow that nbf guy was a real moron
[16:01] <oneadvent> 4pm????
[16:01] <smartboyhw> lol
[16:01] <lilstevie> and rude
[16:01] <kknikolas> 4pm 1 minute !!!!
[16:01] <smartboyhw> popey, is the wiki updated?
[16:02] <oneadvent> what is this about 4pm?
[16:02] <popey> patience
[16:02] <kknikolas> we do a ddos attack here ^^
[16:02] <timhansen> HAHAHA
[16:02] <mhall119> it's coming, just be patient
[16:02] <timhansen> -caps
[16:02] <oneadvent> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TouchInstallProcess
[16:02] <timhansen> that's what she said
[16:02] <F41L> Internal Server Error
[16:02] <rsalveti> syncing now
[16:02] <F41L> yes!
[16:02] <oneadvent> everyone f5 all at once
[16:02] <oneadvent> 3
[16:02] <oneadvent> 2
[16:02] <oneadvent> 1
[16:02] <mhall119> stop breaking the wiki!
[16:02] <oneadvent> omg that loaded so much slower
[16:02] <Yugge> :D
[16:02] <F41L> lol
[16:02] <oneadvent> hahaha coordinated
[16:02] <kknikolas> yes
[16:02] <tilal6991> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/quantal/mwc-demo/
[16:02] <timhansen> uhm wut
[16:02] <timhansen> lol 500 error
[16:02] <F41L> AMG
[16:02] <tbgconnor> we ddosed it
[16:02] <tbgconnor> we all f5'ed
[16:03] <smartboyhw> After refresh after 500 error still that page
[16:03] <timhansen> were we trying to do that?
[16:03] <timhansen> hahaha
[16:03] <lilstevie> tilal6991, as in the xda one with xperia stuff? :p
[16:03] <bobweaver> mhall119,  lay the ban hammer on the ip
[16:03] <popey> Well done you. I hope your parents are proud.
[16:03] <oneadvent> :D
[16:03] <smartboyhw> LOL
[16:03] <mhall119> getting a 500 error on the wiki is like getting wet in the rain
[16:03] <stylemistake> haha
[16:03] <F41L> lol
[16:03] <ogra_> go wild guys !
[16:03] <stylemistake> we killed the server
[16:03] <F41L> on what?
[16:03] <tbgconnor> we're all still f5ing
[16:03] <F41L> what page!!!
[16:03] <oneadvent> is this where we should go now? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/quantal/mwc-demo/
[16:03] <tbgconnor> it's back,.
[16:04] <mhall119> oneadvent: no
[16:04] <minsikcho> why isn't coming...
[16:04] <oneadvent> ok
[16:04] <Neko> mwc demo then, to instal it ?
[16:04] <smartboyhw> ogra_, go wild. But how to install eh?
[16:04] <mhall119> no
[16:04] <tbgconnor> somebody needs to sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[16:04] <tbgconnor> lol
[16:04] <kknikolas> oneadvent: i dont undestand it
[16:04] <nagu> lol
[16:04] <mhall119> the installer will pull images from there automatically, you need to wait for the installer
[16:04]  * smartboyhw still finds the page not updated
[16:04] <oneadvent> what language is the ubuntu.com written in
[16:04] <timhansen> ogra_: ?
[16:04] <F41L> no no no, sudo services httpd restart
[16:04] <wait4phone> I'm downloading the 3 files containing maguro from that link http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/quantal/mwc-demo/
[16:04]  * tbgconnor is getting impatient here
[16:04] <wait4phone> Is that it?
[16:04] <smartboyhw> mhall119, OK I will find it on LP:{
[16:04] <mhall119> oneadvent: vb.net
[16:04] <netcurli> :D
[16:04] <oneadvent> haha mhall119 prolly
[16:04] <wait4phone> lol
[16:05] <ogra_> popey, can you put the wiki link in the topic ?
[16:05] <kyler084> downloading image now
[16:05] <Hairo> lol
[16:05] <Andy80> jppiiroi1en, I haven't finished building QtCreator yet :( still lot of missing libs: http://pastebin.com/Lb6x7tKj
[16:05] <oneadvent> Internal Server Error
[16:05] <nagu> Orga.. give us update..
[16:05] <nagu> :(
[16:05] <F41L> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[16:05] <ogra_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[16:05] <oneadvent> Andy80: i dont think people are supposed to have it
[16:05] <stylemistake> hooraY
[16:06] <tbgconnor> so, are we going to install this using android recovery?
[16:06] <tbgconnor> or with fastboot?
[16:06] <bobweaver> popey,  I was right it was the manhattan project  .... +1 for bobweaver
[16:06] <cool_> Website is up with instructions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[16:06] <Andy80> oneadvent, what?
[16:06] <timhansen> yay
[16:06] <wait4phone> Come back on the 21st for detailed installation instructions and more
[16:06]  * timhansen cheers
[16:06] <smartboyhw> Hmm https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-touch-preview is a nice page
[16:06] <kyler084> 500 error internal server error
[16:06] <kknikolas> i cant acces wiki -.-
[16:06] <kyler084> come on guys dont hammer it
[16:06] <vibhav> where is the source?
[16:07] <kknikolas> ok lets all stop f5
[16:07] <rsalveti> vibhav: coming in a bit
[16:07] <oneadvent> so wait no cdma?
[16:07] <vibhav> Whohoo
[16:07] <rsalveti> oneadvent: not at this moment
[16:07] <sergiusens> oneadvent: no cdma
[16:07] <oneadvent> omg
[16:07] <StZ> This is only a developer preview. Don't expect everything to work.
[16:07] <rsalveti> not cdma and no lte yet
[16:07] <oneadvent> i waited all day, but i'm on verizon, so i can't even use it :(
[16:07] <rsalveti> *yet* :-)
[16:07] <sergiusens> oneadvent: it's a preview, it will come
[16:08] <Neko> So, I need to use ubuntu to install it ):
[16:08] <tbgconnor> yay for installation directions!
[16:08] <sergiusens> Neko: not necessarily
[16:08] <tbgconnor> i'm out'
[16:08] <rsalveti> Neko: I'd say so
[16:08] <nagu> Finally its happened
[16:08] <kaleo> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install ah ah ah
[16:08] <oneadvent> :( well that was a waste of a day. guess next round then
[16:08] <nagu> booting now..
[16:08] <nagu> :)
[16:08] <nathris> oneadvent: i figured you'd be used to not getting updates then
[16:08] <wait4phone> yeah!!!!!!!!
[16:08] <kknikolas> @admins make some references to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[16:08] <meetingology> kknikolas: Error: "admins" is not a valid command.
[16:08] <rsalveti> oneadvent: depending on the device you can still flash to see the ui and such
[16:08] <Brad_> Heyy
[16:08] <rsalveti> oneadvent: just the radio that will not work
[16:08] <rsalveti> I know, phone without a phone working doesnt make much sense
[16:08] <oneadvent> yea but the site doesn't make it clear if it will overwrite clockwork backups
[16:08] <rsalveti> but still, in case you want to give it a try and develop apps for it
[16:09] <kknikolas> admins make some references to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[16:09] <smartboyhw> The page is here!!!
[16:09] <kknikolas> yes
[16:10]  * Tak => known issues
[16:10] <lk11235> components of ubuntu touch can be run on the z10, does anyone know if the full ubuntu phone OS can be adapted for the Z10?
[16:10] <lool> FYI folks mwc-demo for phablet builds is out and announced; wiki going down  ;-)
[16:10] <Tak> hmm, what's "limited voice and sms"
[16:10] <SailorMoon> i cant access wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch
[16:10] <SailorMoon> or even the wiki itself
[16:10] <SailorMoon> "Internal Server Error"
[16:10] <sergiusens> Tak: as in don't expect 5 NINES or anything like that
[16:11] <smartboyhw> Release notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes
[16:11] <Tak> I'm not even sure what that means
[16:11] <SailorMoon> can someone upload it for me?
[16:11] <Andy80> bzoltan, do you have any idea how can I find those missing libs http://pastebin.com/Lb6x7tKj ?
[16:11] <SailorMoon> cant access the wiki
[16:11] <sergiusens> Tak: it's not targetted for end users wanting an everyday phone... I guess that's what it means
[16:11] <smartboyhw> The Ubuntu Phone Porting guide will be released tmr\
[16:11] <wait4phone> I don't get it. Where is the download?
[16:11] <NAM_killer> Tak - essentially don't expect all features to work - this is a preview for developers, not even a preview for end users
[16:12] <kknikolas> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[16:12] <kknikolas> wait4phone: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[16:12] <Tak> unfortunately, I'm a developer who needs to use his phone when not developing
[16:12] <lk11235> you can also try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch
[16:12] <wait4phone> that's instructions not download
[16:12] <lk11235> scroll down, you can download the image
[16:12] <NAM_killer> if you are a dev then why dont you have two phones?
[16:12]  * Tak blink
[16:12] <nathris> the install script overwrites your recovery
[16:13] <NAM_killer> it would make your life much easier
[16:13] <Tak> I have two phones, but the nice one is for using
[16:13] <robin-gloster_> ogra_ do i need android on my nexus7? ubuntu on it won't work?
[16:13] <sergiusens> nathris: yes
[16:13] <NAM_killer> that is a sacrifice you may have to make ;)
[16:13] <ogra_> robin-gloster_, yeah, the installer neeeds adb
[16:14] <wait4phone> Instructions say to apt-get something and I'm not even on Ubuntu:(
[16:14] <wait4phone> Where is the download link?
[16:14] <oneadvent> wait4phone: get on ubuntu
[16:14] <Herp> nakasi or nakasig O_O
[16:14] <robin-gloster_> hmpf^^
[16:14] <Guest65296> hi when is the developer preview for ubuntu phone going to be released
[16:14] <Great_Day> wait4phone: you need to be on ubuntu
[16:14] <Tak> no, that's actually a sacrifice I won't be making
[16:14] <sergiusens> wait4phone: if you know how to flash manually you can do it too
[16:14] <dcope> So was the restore image released today?
[16:14] <SailorMoon> Thats freaking dumb
[16:14] <smartboyhw> Guest33604, it IS released:P
[16:14] <Tak> Guest33604:  3 minutes ago
[16:14] <sergiusens> wait4phone: just need the right files
[16:14] <kyler084> ITS ALREADY RELEASED, check the wiki
[16:14] <SailorMoon> someone install and it and dump it since Ubuntu is so incompetent
[16:14] <wait4phone> I know how to flash manually, I need the files
[16:14] <smartboyhw> robin-gloster, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[16:14] <oneadvent> i'm doing it anyway just for the fucks sake of it
[16:14] <oneadvent> i'll let you all know if recovery stuff stays
[16:14] <nathris> http://phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb
[16:15] <sergiusens> wait4phone: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/quantal/mwc-demo/
[16:15] <Copephobia> Any chance of CDMA drivers for the Verizon variant on this?
[16:15] <GabMus_mobile> hello
[16:15] <GabMus_mobile> finally we got it :D
[16:15] <oneadvent> Copephobia: no, i'm in the same boat
[16:15] <robin-gloster_> smartboyhw i saw that but that doesn't say it requires android i just wanted confirmation
[16:15] <oneadvent> actually my phone wont even recognize i dont think i can try it
[16:15] <NAM_killer> Tak - then you will have to wait to install it i guess...
[16:16] <smartboyhw> robin-gloster, don't you have?
[16:16] <Tak> I certainly will
[16:16] <GabMus_mobile> where is the nexus 4 binary?
[16:16] <kyler084> when is the porting guide coming online ??
[16:16] <kyler084> ?
[16:16] <smartboyhw> kyler084, tmr
[16:16] <SailorMoon> Where are the downloads to the boot image and the userdata image?
[16:16] <smartboyhw> Read the wiki
[16:16] <rsalveti> kyler084: in a few
[16:16] <kyler084> smartboyhw okay
[16:17] <smartboyhw> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
[16:17] <Hairo> kyler084, they said before that they're working on it
[16:17] <kyler084> okay so someone says tommorow and some say in a few ??? correct please ?
[16:17] <kyler084> okay
[16:17] <Touhou11> Are there are any companies confirmed as selling Ubuntu phone?
[16:17] <oneadvent> yea and adb finds it
[16:17] <Guest65296> a zip fioe would have been nice :)
[16:17] <lk11235> anyone else here waiting for a N1 port?
[16:17] <oneadvent> so it actually blocks cdma phones from trying it
[16:17] <Herp> takju or yakju ?
[16:18] <napster> Released?
[16:18] <SailorMoon> Where are the actual images?
[16:18] <Herp> i think i have maguro?
[16:18] <kyler084> yes
[16:18] <napster> ah great!
[16:18] <napster> Did you guys started? I have a gnex here.
[16:19] <napster> *start
[16:19] <jbooth> The setup scripts pull the images themselves, so dling separately isn't a huge win.
[16:19] <helicopter88> am I dumb or I can't find anywhere source code?
[16:19] <jbooth> And yes, I have phablet-flash starting
[16:20] <oneadvent> arrrggg why can't i try it on cdma just for fun?
[16:20] <bjaanes> When you use the script it seems to be downloading the actual images from like http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/quantal/mwc-demo/ or something?
[16:20] <stylemistake> WHEN YOU FINISH INSTALLING, SAY IF RECOVERY IS STILL WORKING, OK?
[16:20] <ogra_> yes
[16:21] <ogra_> stylemistake, MY EARS !!!
[16:21] <oneadvent> + 1 to stylemistake i'd like to know too since i can't do it
[16:21] <Copephobia> Just have to wait for that cdma port I guess. I highly doubt it will take long
[16:21] <stylemistake> ogra_: SORRY!
[16:21] <oneadvent> Copephobia: it'll be years. we'll never see it in our lifetime
[16:21] <wait4phone> Please upload the script somewhere
[16:21] <Copephobia> :( lol
[16:21] <Hairo> i've nere wanted a tabled so badly
[16:21] <ogra_> stylemistake, there are roll back instructions on the wiki afaik
[16:21] <Hairo> *never
[16:22] <Avedo> So I fixed some of the problems I had with qtcreator but I'm still not able to setup a QtQuick or QML-Layout Project ... Any hints???
[16:22] <napster> ok, I'm going to flash ubuntu, use it for a few minutes and restore android after that. Thats my plan for today.
[16:22] <Avedo> ITS ONLINE ....
[16:22] <Herp> tutorial is for linux only, as much as i would not care @home, i am at work atm ... :3
[16:22] <ogra_> Avedo, it so is !
[16:22] <napster> How to identify if this GNex is takju or yakju?
[16:23] <GabMus_mobile> woah i will make my friend try it
[16:23] <ogra_> Herp, and your boss will live if yoou flash phones while working
[16:23] <ogra_> *love
[16:23] <NAM_killer> settings -> about phone
[16:23] <NAM_killer> ->build number
[16:24] <napster> It starts with JRXXX
[16:24] <Herp> ogra_: not that big problem, as we are making apps & webstuff ^^
[16:24]  * Jim_Lahey is having fun with compent for HUD 
[16:24] <ogra_> oh
[16:24] <ogra_> please go ahead and flash it then :)
[16:24] <Great_Day> ogra_ is the source code yet available?
[16:24] <NAM_killer> wait sorry lol i was thinking of the wrong thing
[16:24] <rymate1234> so hows ubuntu?
[16:24] <napster> :)
[16:24] <daddyshornymicha> Takes a while to get used to
[16:24] <Herp> i will as soon as i am @home, i see me having sooo much fun with it :D
[16:24] <daddyshornymicha> N7 install went well
[16:24] <ogra_> rsalveti, do we have a link to the source up already ?
[16:25] <kknikolas> do i need the factory google image to install?
[16:25] <rj_> where do i download the image for maguro?
[16:25] <napster> kknikolas: You need it if you need to restore
[16:25] <Hairo> how's it going? i don't own a nexus device
[16:25] <ogra_> (i think the source was up all day actually ... nobody noticed and everyone looked for images)
[16:25] <katadare> anyone have the script? Don't have access to by Ubox right now...
[16:25] <helicopter88> I can't figure a link for source code
[16:25] <napster> Hairo: I'm just starting to flash
[16:25] <oneadvent> i'm gonna force it on just to check it out
[16:25] <helicopter88> I don't have a nexus,I just want to have a look at the code
[16:25] <napster> hope that thing doesn't get bricked.
[16:26] <Hairo> napster: good luck
[16:26] <napster> Still, how to identify if this GNex is takju or yakju?
[16:26] <stylemistake> napster: what device?
[16:26] <vibhav> Fantastic work guys
[16:26] <rsalveti> ogra_: it's up, just finishing the porting guide docs
[16:26] <remu> I really wish they had just released the images for us to flash ourselves using fastboot and adb.
[16:26] <rsalveti> to announce it all together
[16:26] <ogra_> great
[16:27] <oneadvent> remu: you can
[16:27] <netcurli> \o/ its running on my gnex
[16:27] <Herp> napster, i used this app:
[16:27] <oneadvent> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/quantal/mwc-demo/
[16:27] <rsalveti> remu: what's the problem about using recovery? :-)
[16:27] <remu> ah, thank you!
[16:27] <Priit> Are there any instructions to install it from Windows?
[16:27] <Herp> fail* Android System Info
[16:27] <SailorMoon> remu: they did
[16:27] <napster> Herp: which one?
[16:27] <oneadvent> Priit: first install ubuntu...
[16:27] <NAM_killer> •takju: devices sold through the Play Store in the US. Contains the Google Wallet aplication
[16:27] <MostHated> anyone get it running yet?
[16:27] <wait4phone> napster: start Google Maps, and somewhere in settings/about or such it will say if it's a yakju or takju
[16:27] <NAM_killer> •yakju: devices sold through Google outside the US.
[16:27] <NAM_killer> •yakjuxw: devices sold by Samsung.
[16:28] <napster> wait4phone: NAM_killer ok, let check it out
[16:28] <stylemistake> netcurli: NOW CHECK THE RECOVERY!!! NOW!!! CHECK!!!
[16:28] <Priit> oneadvent, uh, why.. thought it was a seperate instance from the Ubuntu-x86 OS
[16:28] <lk11235> is armel+maguro for Gnex?
[16:28] <ogra_> stylemistake, you really need to fix that capslock :)
[16:28] <oneadvent> Priit: cause why have a linux phone and stupid windows desktop?
[16:28] <daddyshornymicha> these pretzels are making me thirsty
[16:28] <ogra_> lk11235, the wikipage has a table
[16:28] <wait4phone> maguro=gnex GSM
[16:28] <stylemistake> ogra_: i'm actually shift-typing
[16:29] <napster> ok to find if the GNex is a takju or yakju, Open google maps -> Settings -> About -> Device
[16:29] <FoxHawk> how to flash from windows?
[16:29] <napster> mine is a yakju
[16:29] <oneadvent> wait4phone: now find the cdma one and you'll be awesome
[16:29] <napster> thanks wait4phone
[16:29] <Priit> oneadvent, what if I said that I have a linux install on my laptop but I'd prefer to do it on my windows desktop?
[16:29] <timhansen> do you have to have stock OS to flash ubuntu?
[16:29] <oneadvent> i'd say you are complaining too much, do it on your laptop....
[16:29] <wastrel> napster: good one
[16:29] <kknikolas> FoxHawk: ubuntu life usb stick ^^
[16:29] <oneadvent> Priit: you can do it on windows, just use adb
[16:29] <oneadvent> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2078691
[16:30] <NeoChapay> sory but where is source ? :)
[16:30] <FoxHawk> another alternatives?
[16:30] <wastrel> wait4phone: napster this should be in the FAQ
[16:30] <napster> ok
[16:30] <oneadvent> just get the official images instead of the ones linked there, but same basic idea, or use adb
[16:31] <oneadvent> honestly you are just complaining if you have a linux laptop you should do it the way they say
[16:31] <FoxHawk> nice obe oneadvent. is it reliable?
[16:31] <FoxHawk> one*
[16:31] <helicopter88> is quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf source? or just a big CM without dalvik like the other zip?
[16:31] <timhansen> ogra_: do you know if you have to be running the stock OS to flash ubuntu?
[16:31] <Cabbas> guys,share your first impressions!
[16:31] <oneadvent> FoxHawk: i'm still downloading, gonna try and force it on a cdma and see what happens
[16:32] <napster> Anyone succeeded in flashing yet?
[16:32] <FoxHawk> i'm downloading too
[16:32] <haja> where can i download
[16:32] <kknikolas> download 10%
[16:32] <lk11235> thanks ogra :)
[16:32] <napster> haja: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[16:32] <FoxHawk> 33%
[16:32] <oneadvent> haja: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[16:32] <Hairo> yeah, i'd like to know how its going... i dont own any nexus device
[16:32] <ogra_> timhansen, you need adb for it
[16:32] <kknikolas> FoxHawk: now 22%
[16:32] <timhansen> ogra_: i'm following the instructions on the site, in ubuntu
[16:32] <Priit> another question. Will the emulated sdcard be deleted/wiped on my nexus 4?
[16:33] <bjaanes> ITS BOOTING!
[16:33] <kknikolas> :O
[16:33] <MostHated> werd
[16:33] <oneadvent> Priit: it said on that thread i posted that his wasn't.
[16:33] <lk11235> D:
[16:33] <timhansen> ogra_: on my gnex, it said, "Unsupported device, autodetect fails device"
[16:33] <oneadvent> i'd make a backup to be sure
[16:33] <haja> where on this page i didnt found it pls help
[16:33] <oneadvent> timhansen: you have a cdma? (verizon)
[16:33] <ogra_> timhansen, well, on the device there needs to be an adb ...
[16:33] <timhansen> no, gsm
[16:33] <napster> bjaanes: Did you finish flashing?
[16:33] <lool> haja: there's a script downloading for you
[16:33] <lk11235> how fast is the boot? i saw a video where it was pretty speedy
[16:33] <FoxHawk> can i flash from cwm instead twrp?
[16:33] <kknikolas> timhansen: i had that bug 2
[16:34] <timhansen> kknikolas: were you able to resolve it?
[16:34] <rsalveti> FoxHawk: you can
[16:34] <FoxHawk> cool
[16:34] <oneadvent> that was my error, kknikolas what did you do?
[16:34] <haja> script? where
[16:34] <kknikolas> timhansen: just relocked bootloader and unlock again than it worked 4 me
[16:34] <rsalveti> FoxHawk: just use the <device>.zip and quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip
[16:34] <Blasterbug> hello !! i have wource code kernel for my device i wish to port ubuntu phone to it.. How is it possible ? And also, it's a dual-sim phone
[16:35] <FoxHawk> how many files we need actually?
[16:35] <rsalveti> Blasterbug: porting guide will be up later today
[16:35] <Blasterbug> i'm looking forward !!
[16:35] <rsalveti> Blasterbug: http://ubuntuonair.com/
[16:35] <helicopter88> rsalveti, is source code downloaded by the phablet binary?
[16:35] <timhansen> kknikolas: cool, i'll give that a try
[16:35] <rsalveti> we'll have a hangout tomorrow to explain how to port to a new device
[16:35] <lool> helicopter88: No; source code is in various places
[16:35] <Blasterbug> thanks, have tyou ever heard about wiko mobile ?
[16:35] <lool> helicopter88: see https://wiki.canonical.com/Touch/Contribute
[16:35] <helicopter88> lool, any link?
[16:36] <kknikolas> Blasterbug: i used http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1999069
[16:36] <helicopter88> uh,before it gave me internal server error
[16:36] <oneadvent> kknikolas: how did you relock bootloader?
[16:36] <lool> helicopter88: reload; wiki is under high load
[16:36] <kknikolas> oneadvent: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1999069
[16:36] <helicopter88> k
[16:36] <F41L> You are not allowed to view this page.
[16:36] <quadomatic> any impressions yet?
[16:36] <lool> F41L: sorry, it's https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Contribute
[16:36] <lool> helicopter88: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Contribute
[16:37] <SailorMoon> rebooting
[16:37] <helicopter88> I'll smash my f5
[16:37] <bjaanes> napster, yap. I just got the Ubuntu Phone UI up on my phone <3
[16:37] <lk11235> once we have downloaded quantal-preinstalled-armel+maguro.zip, can we just flash the zip from recovery like ext4?
[16:37] <FoxHawk> so we need two files?
[16:37] <napster> bjaanes: great! :)
[16:37] <nathris> FoxHawk: yes
[16:37] <nathris> theres the core os, then the device specific version
[16:37] <SYED> hi
[16:38] <oneadvent> picky tool kknikolas
[16:38] <FoxHawk> this quantal-preinstalled-armel+maguro.zip   and this quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip   ?
[16:38] <FoxHawk> hi
[16:38] <bjaanes> Wow! It looks *really* good
[16:38] <SYED> can i install gt i9001
[16:38] <nathris> if you're using the gnex, then yes
[16:38] <FoxHawk> im maguro
[16:38] <nathris> SYED: no
[16:38] <lelandjs> Can't wait for the source, I want to try this out but I have Toro :(
[16:38] <To98> Can you get Wifi working? For me it doesn't work
[16:38] <ogra_> SYED, you could port it though
[16:39] <FoxHawk> orga?
[16:39] <nathris> yea it doesn't look like its going to be that hard to port
[16:39] <SYED> ho ab desktop
[16:39] <FoxHawk> 74%
[16:39] <nathris> curse my slow internet, 680kb/s sucks
[16:40] <kknikolas> 99% :O
[16:40] <napster> bjaanes: Can you get some screenshots? :)
[16:40] <lelandjs> To98: What's your wireless setup? According to the release notes, wireless only works with open connections, WPA personal, and WEP
[16:40] <To98> lelandjs Oh I've got WPS2
[16:40] <oneadvent> i got 4 karmas for this on reddit :D
[16:40] <To98> I will try to change it
[16:40] <FoxHawk> i'm 300kb,slowe
[16:40] <bjaanes> napster, not quite sure how I would do that ^^
[16:40] <To98> Thanks!
[16:40] <FoxHawk> slower*
[16:40] <napster> :)
[16:41] <lelandjs> To98: Welcome!
[16:41] <stylemistake> bjaanes: try to reboot into recovery and see if clockworkmod/twrp was wiped
[16:41] <kknikolas> lol 1st download finished 2nd is bad ass
[16:41] <oneadvent> i downloaded them both
[16:42] <kknikolas> 1 hour
[16:42] <RiXtEr> Ah, There is no toro image ?
[16:42] <tilal6991> Nope
[16:42] <tilal6991> Only maguro
[16:42] <Cabbas> installing
[16:42] <needhelp> Where exactly can i download? is it the Factory ?
[16:42] <oneadvent> no love for veri
[16:42] <oneadvent> verizon*
[16:43] <needhelp> pls help me
[16:43] <nathris> because verizon is the devil
[16:43] <RiXtEr> can I flash maguro and just not have radios ?
[16:43] <Hairo> i'll try to port it to lg nitro hd or atrix (and probably fail miserably), but i'll try... waiting for the porting guide
[16:43] <kknikolas> needhelp: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1999069
[16:43] <lelandjs> RiXtEr: Nope, no Toro. I'm sure that we'll be able to build an image that works quite easily (I assume it'll be similar to the ASOP build process) but until we have source...
[16:43] <Great_Day> needhelp: you need a linux distro
[16:43] <rryder> d
[16:43] <kknikolas> needhelp: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[16:43] <FoxHawk> 98%
[16:43] <kknikolas> sry
[16:43] <oneadvent> .help
[16:43] <oneadvent> ^should have a bot here
[16:44] <jprentzas> hi! when ubuntu will be released for samsung galaxy s3?
[16:44] <padme1> jprentzas never
[16:44] <padme1> now go away
[16:44] <FoxHawk> copying to phone
[16:45] <WindozeUser> Question, does ubuntu have to be used to flash the device or is there a windows workaround?
[16:45] <lelandjs> jprentzas: It's unlikely to be officially released for the GSIII, but maybe people will be able to hack a build together after source drops
[16:45] <nathris> you can use twrp to flash
[16:45] <Great_Day> WindozeUser: you need linux
[16:45] <Djok> When for intel x86?
[16:45] <ogra_> WindozeUser, as long as you can use adb you can install manually
[16:45] <oneadvent> WindozeUser: become LinuxUser
[16:46] <dolcea> does it have an apt-get feature?
[16:46] <fooplio> @Hairo atrix atrix please!
[16:46] <meetingology> fooplio: Error: "Hairo" is not a valid command.
[16:46] <jprentzas> lelandjs thanks. Maybe xda developers can make that happened!! :)
[16:46] <needhelp> i can't install them on windows?
[16:46] <jezy> http://www.pasteall.org/39898
[16:46] <nathris> it will only officially be released on unlocked phones
[16:47] <eiabea> i got the android robot after pushing the images, but now it holds at about 80%, is that normal?
[16:47] <jezy> anyone can check whats wrong
[16:47] <kknikolas> needhelp: u can use adb
[16:47] <Wellark> eiabea: just give it some more time
[16:47] <needhelp> kknikolas: How?
[16:47] <Wellark> eiabea: the progress bar might seem frozen but it's working
[16:47] <needhelp> kknikolas: bootloader?
[16:48] <kyler084> so porting guide tommorow , or in a bit ?
[16:48] <FoxHawk> i have a unlocked bootloader and cwm. can i just install now?
[16:48] <nk111> does anyone know if the recovery stays intact when flashing ubuntu on the nexus 4?
[16:48] <nathris> if you're unsure you can use adb shell to make sure its not boot looping
[16:48] <WindozeUser> ok, and I am currently running Cyanogenmod 10.1-20130218-Nightly-maguro  recovery is clockworkmod, is TWRP needed to flash ubuntu of can i use Clockworkmod
[16:48] <eiabea> Wellark: how long does it take to go through this progress? its about 10min now
[16:48] <nathris> nk111: if you use the install script it flashes the recovery
[16:48] <WindozeUser> ok
[16:48] <kknikolas> needhelp: im no windows user. but feel free 2 try
[16:48] <kyler084> porting guide up tommorow or soon ?
[16:48] <oneadvent> eeek nathris thanks for that information!
[16:49] <Wellark> eiabea: the android screen?
[16:49] <Hairo> any word on when the porting guide will be done?
[16:49] <WindozeUser> i may have to run WUBI to flash my phone
[16:49] <Wellark> eiabea: that shouldn't take more than 10 minutes
[16:49] <nk111> nathris: what kind of recovery does it flash? can i restore a nandroid backup with this?
[16:49] <awe_> kyler084, porting guide will hopefully be made available tomorrow...
[16:49] <eiabea> Wellark: yes, it now rebooted -> black screen after google logo
[16:49] <kyler084> okay man many thanks
[16:49] <nathris> nk111: i don't know, im not flashing it
[16:49] <oneadvent> nk111: i'm about to try with just using clockwork
[16:49] <ggggggg7> is using the phablet package the only way to flash a nexus7? Or are the image files available like http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-preinstalled/current/ ??
[16:49] <nathris> trying with twrp right now
[16:50] <oneadvent> i'll post what happens
[16:50] <nk111> thanks
[16:50] <nathris> rebooting
[16:50] <nk111> please report back :)
[16:50] <icetime> anybody knows, when ubuntu touch arrives for the galaxy s3_
[16:50] <FoxHawk> wait someone to port it
[16:50] <Wellark> eiabea: still black?
[16:50] <nathris> worked
[16:51] <eiabea> Wellark: yes
[16:51] <lool> ggggggg7: it is basically doing a set of fastboot / adb calls; you can reverse engineer it to run the steps yourself, but it's best if you use the tested tool; it will verify checksums etc.
[16:51] <lool> ggggggg7: it's python, feel free to open it up  :-)
[16:51] <Wellark> eiabea: and you followed the install instructions here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[16:51] <Wellark> ?
[16:51] <WindozeUser> ill probably wait for bugfixes and mobile data connectivity b4 flashing
[16:51] <ggggggg7> lool: thanks.  I don't have a ubuntu desktop so looking for options
[16:52] <eiabea> Wellark: yes, with the -b parameter
[16:52] <Darkwing> I'm wrtiting up a howto for windows right now
[16:52] <WindozeUser> sweet
[16:52] <FoxHawk> cool
[16:52] <frankencode> THOUSAND THANKS, it works (happy GN user)
[16:53] <needhelp> Darkwing: hurry up pls ;D
[16:53] <lk11235> dont need a how-to, just flash two files from recovery
[16:53] <prive8> i get grouper unsupported device. 8gb n7 cm10.1 exp
[16:53] <needhelp> lk11235: which 2 files?
[16:53] <napster> nathris: Screenshots please :)
[16:53] <FoxHawk> im doing nandroid backup now
[16:53] <nathris> wifi working on my wpa2 network
[16:53] <oneadvent> what if i dont flash the first one
[16:53] <oneadvent> what happens
[16:53] <rsalveti> doesn't boot
[16:53] <rsalveti> :-)
[16:53] <lk11235> for Gnex: Flash quantal-preinstalled-armel+maguro.zip, then flash quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip
[16:53] <asdf__> nathris: which files did you use?
[16:54] <Darkwing> assuming you have adb and fastboot installed on your windows with the paths for the commands... It's just a python script.
[16:54] <FoxHawk> lk111235 : have you flash it?
[16:54] <Darkwing> hangon lemme reboot into windows.
[16:54] <eiabea> Wellark: took the battery out -> google logo -> black screen
[16:54] <lk11235> FoxHawk: im doing it now, but others have had luck with the above method
[16:54] <nathris>  quantal-preinstalled-armel+maguro.zip and  quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip
[16:54] <nathris> flashed from twrp
[16:55] <lk11235> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38276515%3Cbr%20/%3E%3Cbr%20/%3ECanonical%20releases%20Ubuntu%20Mobile
[16:55] <oneadvent> it wont let me install the maguro (cause i'm verizon) so i'm just trying the second to see what happens
[16:55] <FoxHawk> is this process deletes cwm?
[16:55] <Wellark> eiabea: what phone do you have
[16:55] <Wellark> ?
[16:55] <eiabea> Wellark: galaxy nexus
[16:56] <asdf__> nathris: thanks! will try that on my nexus 4 (mako) :)
[16:56] <san> Hi Guys
[16:56] <prive8> is the 8gb grouper not supported?
[16:56] <eiabea> Wellark: adb works...strange
[16:56] <wastrel> hi san ♥
[16:56] <RiXtEr> So if I flash the maguro version on my toro, I will still have a working phone to play with (minus all mobile stuff) right ?
[16:56] <san> Is the source code available for developer build?
[16:56] <pmcgowan> eiabea: the phone is up but the shell did not start
[16:57] <eiabea> pmcgowan: no, i get the google logo, than a black screen, after a while i get even mtp support, and if i try adb shell, i get the shell
[16:57] <oneadvent> so any guesses what will happen by installing the armhf without the other on a cdma?
[16:57] <ogra_> san, on its way
[16:57] <eiabea> pmcgowan: but screen still black
[16:58] <san> Ogra_ can we try to import it on unsupported devices?
[16:58] <lool> FoxHawk: it actually writes a new one
[16:58] <ogra_> san, yes please
[16:58] <san> or only nexus series?
[16:58] <pmcgowan> eiabea: right, so for some reason the unity shell cannot start, which obviously should not happen
[16:58] <san> oh thats cool
[16:58] <FoxHawk> alright
[16:58] <lool> FoxHawk: so the recovery partition will contain a clockworkmod
[16:58] <jezy> eiabea: i have a nexus galaxy but after i do phablet-flash -b then i get
[16:58] <jezy> http://www.pasteall.org/39898
[16:58] <ShapeShifter499> hi guys
[16:58] <jezy> whats up witht that?
[16:58] <ogra_> san, port to anything you like, spread it, copy it
[16:58] <FoxHawk> recovery partition is on the /system right?
[16:58] <ShapeShifter499> is the source code out
[16:58] <ShapeShifter499> ?
[16:58] <nathris> phone part works
[16:58] <oneadvent> rebooting now on unsupported device
[16:58] <SailorMoon> Enable debug mode on your device, jezy
[16:58] <ogra_> ShapeShifter499, on its way
[16:59] <tilal6991> oneadvent: advent vega?
[16:59] <jezy> SailorMoon: i cant find it
[16:59] <RiXtEr> jezy, have you unlocked your bootloader ?
[16:59] <needhelp> Pls someone can tell me how to install on windows..
[16:59] <san> Ogra_any minimal hardware requirements?
[16:59] <jezy> i have 4.2.2
[16:59] <RiXtEr> jezy, and installed root.
[16:59] <oneadvent> what tilal6991
[16:59] <jezy> RiXtEr: yes
[16:59] <tilal6991> oneadvent: which device?
[16:59] <jezy> yes
[16:59] <oneadvent> i'm on the verizon galaxy nexus tilal6991
[16:59] <SailorMoon> jezy you hold down something on the about phone page
[16:59] <eiabea> pmcgowan: should i try to reflash it?
[16:59] <tilal6991> oneadvent: Oh right lol
[16:59] <ShapeShifter499> ogra_, sweet  I'm going to attempt to port (or get someone over on XDA to do it) to Nook HD (and HD+) tablets
[16:59] <ogra_> san, there is a wikipage somweher for that ... dual core armv7 1G is minimum i think
[16:59] <ryansipes> Did anyone else have issues with their device showing offile?
[16:59] <SailorMoon> I cant remember what
[16:59] <ryansipes> offline*
[16:59] <ogra_> ShapeShifter499, awesome !
[17:00] <lool> ryansipes: yes, you have to accept the binding on the screen
[17:00] <eiabea> jezy: that command worked for me, do you have enabled usb-debugging?
[17:00] <ryansipes> (offline in adb)
[17:00] <lool> ryansipes: this is with android 4.2.2 devices; you'll get a popup on the device to confirm allowing the fingerprint of the computer
[17:00] <oneadvent> huh...didn't do anything just came back up to a regular android os
[17:00] <ShapeShifter499> ogra_, those tablets already have CM10/10.1 but I think Ubuntu will be more awesome
[17:00] <jezy> eiabea: i cant find it on android 4.2.2
[17:00] <cielak> hello there, I have a rather simple question: where can I find some information on the display server used in UbuntuPhone?
[17:00] <san> oh oh.. i dont like this. it should be like ubuntu for desktop.. as Ubuntu runs on any desktop even low config is fine for it.. why dual core for phone.. i dont understand
[17:01] <Hairo> will hardware buttons work (back, menu, search and home) on devices with said buttons?
[17:01] <eiabea> jezy: you have to be a developer, go to about phone, and tab on the buildnumber for multiple times
[17:01] <ogra_> ShapeShifter499, dont expect to much yet, its a developer *preview* ... but every new device will improve the situation
[17:01] <nathris> and it froze
[17:01] <eiabea> jezy: after that you should see the developer settings in settings
[17:01] <oneadvent> trying again after wipe
[17:01] <eiabea> jezy: there you can enable usb-debugging
[17:02] <ryansipes> lool, I've already accepted it, is there a way to force a prompt again?
[17:02] <jezy> well, now i'm a developer
[17:02] <lool> ryansipes: relaunch?
[17:02] <ryansipes> lool,  Nevermind, got it
[17:02] <liecno> just flashed it to my galaxy nexus... even the front camera works... ;)
[17:02] <liecno> nice
[17:02] <nathris> honestly im not too impressed
[17:02] <jezy> adb devices still does not show my phone
[17:03] <ianblenke> jezy: enable adb debugging
[17:03] <eiabea> jezy: sudo adb kill-server
[17:03] <ryansipes> lool, Thanks, I just disabled debugging and re-enabled, then did adb kill-server
[17:03] <ryansipes> lool, and start-server
[17:03] <mhall119> nathris: the purpose of releasing it now isn't to impress you, it's to let you hack on it
[17:03] <eiabea> jezy: sudo adb start-server
[17:03] <eiabea> jezy: than try again
[17:03] <tilal6991> Anyone working on compiling the source code?
[17:03] <Hairo> jezy, try sudo adb kill-server and then sudo adb start-server
[17:03] <ianblenke> jezy: after doing that, be sure to unplug your USB cable if you had it plugged in, and re-plug it in again, so that it prompts you to accept the device for adb. _then_ it will appear. happened to me too.
[17:03] <nathris> seems to be a bit faster after rebooting
[17:04] <Cabbas> When this os will be ready for everyday, will be wonderful! Great work,hope developers continue the work. I'm leaving,goodbye
[17:05] <FoxHawk> how long it takes to flash?
[17:05] <jroh> I don't suppose anyone knows if the ubuntu phone code will work on a Nexus S?
[17:05] <Carnage> hey guys, im guessing this ubuntu wont work on the galaxy nexus for verizon?
[17:05] <myke_> What about Arch Linux users
[17:05] <ianblenke> the download is the longest part (still waiting)
[17:05] <eiabea> FoxHawk: pretty long, about 10min
[17:05] <san> ogra_ any specific time u can tell when the source code will be out?
[17:05] <lk11235> FoxHawk: first flash isnt that long, second is fairly long
[17:05] <Hairo> jroh, wait for t he porting guide
[17:05] <eiabea> FoxHawk: after pushing the images
[17:06] <FoxHawk> the first file went well
[17:06] <japhule> is there an x86-x64 version of ubuntu touch coming, to install on touchscreen laptops?
[17:06] <FoxHawk> the second one stuck somewhere, i will just wait
[17:06] <eiabea> FoxHawk: where? at the android robot?
[17:07] <oneadvent> ok rebooting again
[17:07] <FoxHawk> extracting the ubuntu rootfs tarball
[17:07] <napster> I get this error : "Unsupported device, autodetect fails device"
[17:07] <RiXtEr> where am I missing the downloads at?
[17:08] <ianblenke> RiXtEr: The phablet-flash script downloads the images as part of the install.
[17:08] <modell> napster: what device do you have?
[17:08] <oneadvent> prolly didn't work
[17:08] <napster> GNex Yakju
[17:08] <napster> modell:
[17:08] <oneadvent> i think that first image is neccessary
[17:08] <oneadvent> and you can't flash it on cdma, so all cdmas are out till xda hacks it up
[17:09] <napster> its not cdma
[17:09] <ianblenke> RiXtEr: if you're going to play with flashing things yourself manually (and not follow the install instructions), you can find the images here: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/quantal/mwc-demo/
[17:09] <napster> its yakju, (GSM+HSPA)
[17:09] <oneadvent> i know it isn't, i was hoping to force it with service support
[17:10] <ryansipes> napster, I would start over if I were you.  I'm using the same phone and it's working just fine.
[17:10] <SilentStryk09> just checking against earlier rumors, does cell data work?
[17:10] <napster> ryansipes: ok, let me see
[17:10] <modell> napster: are your drivers set up properly? i had this issue with the nexus 4 before
[17:10] <petllama_> im not able to detect my n7 in adb devies in ubuntu. the n7 is running 4.2.1, it is unlocked, and in developer mode, but adb devices returns nothing. any ideas?
[17:10] <napster> modell: Yes, the drivers are just fine.
[17:10] <oneadvent> yea just goes to android :(
[17:11] <ppires> hey guys, gratz on the release! can you clarify me if flashing Ubuntu on my Nexus 4 will remove the custom recovery?
[17:11] <napster> starting over again
[17:11] <ppires> petllama_: permissions.
[17:11] <liecno> why is the screen going black so often? is it crashing?
[17:11] <FoxHawk> finish flashing, reboot now
[17:11] <petllama_> ppires: adb server is running as root, anything else to consider?
[17:11] <ppires> petllama_: hmmm, does sudo dmesg shows your phone connecting as usb device?
[17:12] <zozo> How flash ubuntu-phone on nexus ? any zip to flash with recovery ?
[17:12] <ppires> zozo: instructions are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[17:12] <ppires> just run the bundled script
[17:12] <zozo> yes but i have not ubuntu //
[17:12] <petllama_> ppires: yes; [  165.963880] usb 3-1: >Product: Nexus 7
[17:12] <ppires> i'm not sure if this wipes your custom recovery
[17:13] <SilentStryk09> so i'm assuming HSPA+ doesnt work currently on the N4?
[17:13] <CharlyDigital> any instructions to flashing using a windows 8 machine
[17:13] <needhelp> How can i flash it with Win7? PLS NEED HELP!
[17:13] <SpiderDice> Is there a .zip file I can flash through CWM for Nexus 7?
[17:13] <SpiderDice> Don't have linux
[17:13] <ppires> petllama_: is your Android SDK correctly installed? have you installed ia32-libs?
[17:14] <newwbie> I feel so bad for the developers in here ha
[17:14] <Henk_> I can't make any calls with my nexus 4. When i press the call button nothing happens.
[17:14] <ppires> CharlyDigital: newwbie SpiderDice can't you install Cygwin?
[17:14] <petllama_> ppires: i only installed what is called for in the tablet instructions. this is a fresh ubuntu install. ill try that now
[17:14] <p3droid> lots of ppl here
[17:14] <eiabea> flashed it the second time now, still just a black screen...what should i do?
[17:15] <needhelp> WHERE can i DOWNLOAD ubuntu?
[17:15] <eiabea> came from CM 10.1, if it helps
[17:15] <needhelp> i only found android 4.2.2
[17:15] <FoxHawk> it works ^^
[17:15] <SilkyBob> Have vzw gnex (toro) super jealous that all of you get to have fun on gsm
[17:15] <needhelp> FoxHawk: can you help me ?
[17:15] <Priit> It worked, the UI was confusing && lack of settings tab && it kept nexus 4 very hot, not ready for daily use
[17:16] <JavierDelgado> Hi all
[17:16] <poseur2bomb> Hey ! I just want to know if calling fonction is OK?
[17:16] <FoxHawk> needhelp : how can I help you?
[17:16] <nathris> ok, ddms works for screen capture
[17:16] <nathris> any requests for screenshots?
[17:16] <needhelp> FoxHawk: Where i find the download files for Ubuntu? ;D
[17:17] <newwbie> does anyone have any links to development to get this to the toro?
[17:17] <FoxHawk> I use this : http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/quantal/mwc-demo/
[17:17] <JavierDelgado> Someone has installed Ubuntu  TDP on Nexus 7?
[17:17] <Guest13422> can i install ubuntu on galaxy nexus from windows 8?
[17:17] <nathris> http://i.imgur.com/A7Z7H9c.jpg
[17:17] <wait4phone> eiabea: I think we also need to flash the zips, did you do that? I'm downloading quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip now, it's slow
[17:17] <nate__> My nexus7 has a broken screen, have to use a mouse with USB-OTG cable, is that enabled in ubuntu on initial bootup?
[17:18] <needhelp> FoxHawk: Thank you, do you use Windows?
[17:18] <eiabea> i am now downloading the factory image...
[17:18] <Guest13422> yes, i do
[17:18] <FoxHawk> you can flash from your phone
[17:18] <SpiderDice> CharlyDigital: I guess I can.
[17:18] <SilkyBob> none for toro :(
[17:18] <eiabea> wait4phone: how to flash these zips?
[17:18] <SpiderDice> CharlyDigital: Maybe I'll just wait for someone to create a .zip
[17:18] <daddyshornymicha> @nate_ probably not, some of the essential micro-usb drivers are not native on Ubuntu
[17:18] <meetingology> daddyshornymicha: Error: "nate_" is not a valid command.
[17:18] <needhelp> FoxHawk: With recovery? which data's
[17:18] <FoxHawk> make sure you have unlocked bootloader and any custom recovery
[17:18] <LuizCruz> Hello devs!
[17:18] <JavierDelgado> And how much time use?
[17:18] <k1l> ok, what zips do i need to flash in recovery to test ubuntu-phone for my nexus4. can i keep the recovery and flash the nandroid backup of android after testing back?
[17:19] <wait4phone> eiabea: from recovery. I'm just guessing, didn't try yet.
[17:19] <nathris> some of the apps are just placeholder images
[17:19] <nathris> lmao
[17:19] <LuizCruz> Is it possible install Ubuntu Touch on a Nexus S?
[17:19] <SpiderDice> k1l: I don't think there are any .zips available yet.
[17:19] <kknikolas> needhelp: http://www.linuxliveusb.com/ Make a Ubuntu Installation USB Stick and run Ubuntu in Testmode so your Windows 7 stays
[17:19] <eiabea> wait4phone: did you also get adb to work? with black screen?
[17:19] <k1l> SpiderDice: see the cdimage link
[17:19] <chatlevik> I flashed my phone to get ubuntu-phone, now it is stuck on reboot with the android robot
[17:19] <ak3n> Hi.  How can i take a screenshot?
[17:19] <newwbie> just nandroid
[17:20] <ianblenke> images are here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/quantal/mwc-demo/, install instructions are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install, running the phablet-flash script will download and flash the appropriate images for your device.
[17:20] <newwbie> reports say ddms works to capture screenshots
[17:20] <nate__> @daddyshornymicha thank you
[17:20] <meetingology> nate__: Error: "daddyshornymicha" is not a valid command.
[17:20] <nathris> newwbie: i can confirm that
[17:20] <newwbie> yes i was refering to you as the "report" XD
[17:20] <wait4phone> eiabea: I also got to a situation where it boots to a black screen, yeak. but bootloader/recovery still work, I guess we need the zips
[17:20] <napster> bjaanes: nathris Can you get us some screenshots meanwhile? :)
[17:20] <nathris> lol
[17:21] <napster> if ddms works
[17:21] <nathris> any requests?
[17:21] <needhelp> kknikolas: THANK YOU^^
[17:21] <napster> :)
[17:21] <nathris> most of the apps are just placeholders
[17:21] <roke> can anybody upload a video???
[17:21] <newwbie> do you have camera functionality?
[17:21] <SilkyBob> any of you magicians going to bring it over to the toro
[17:21] <newwbie> or is the preview just extreme bare bones
[17:21] <nathris> camera works
[17:21] <newwbie> Would love to see a screenshot of camera pic!
[17:22] <roke> upload a video please!
[17:22] <newwbie> long with sms and how they lay tht out
[17:22] <android187> can i test ubuntu phone on a other device when i flash it over android =/ sry for my english i'm german ^^
[17:22] <nathris> twitter/gmail/facebook work, but they're just the mobile web sites
[17:22] <newwbie> not just any device can run this yet
[17:22] <FoxHawk> laggy transition
[17:22] <FoxHawk> sucks
[17:22] <eiabea> wait4phone: just flash stock image and try again, maybe it has something to do with custom bootloader / recovery / rom
[17:22] <Equ> Hey
[17:22] <Equ> Can I flash the new touch image to my GN with windows?
[17:22] <Equ> Or do I need ubuntu in order to do it
[17:22] <supdog86> how many people is in this channel?
[17:22] <newwbie> you use CWM
[17:23] <kknikolas> Equ: http://www.linuxliveusb.com/
[17:23] <bots> 281
[17:23] <supdog86> you sure?
[17:23] <nathris> it starts out smooth, then gets laggier
[17:23] <bots> has anyone gotten it to install on toro?
[17:23] <nathris> must be a memory leak somewhere
[17:23] <Equ> kknikolas: I know but I'm in military service so that's not a choise
[17:23] <newwbie> bots apparently it will install just no radio
[17:23] <wait4phone> eiabea: Stock? I don't want to go to stock now, I just need to find the correct way to flash Ubuntu Touch
[17:24] <bots> newwbie, i get unsupported device
[17:24] <eiabea> wait4phone: same here, but i flash now stock and then try again ;)
[17:24] <kmisterk> So its true. No CDMA support? :(
[17:24] <mnnewb> to those who have successfully loaded the preview, can you make phone calls?
[17:24] <newwbie> hmm I havent tried but thats what ive read
[17:24] <carlz28> flashed back to stock...unlocked of course...flashed the ubuntu imgs...get the google screen...then nothing...wtf
[17:24] <Darkwing> No CSMA
[17:24] <newwbie> no THIS DOES NOT WORK FOR TORO developers need to melt in the cdma (which are locked) or something like that
[17:24] <Darkwing> *CDMA
[17:24] <bots> no cdma yet, day one and we are already in need of a ril
[17:24] <SilentStryk09> anybody know if HSPA on the N4 works?
[17:24] <Henk_> Nope cant make any phonecalls
[17:24] <ingar195> is there a windows instalation guide for instaling ubuntu on  nexus 4
[17:25] <wait4phone> eiabea: If they would just put simple instructions that are not only for Ubuntu computers...
[17:25] <kmisterk> Rail?
[17:25] <kukacz> can install from clockwork recovery?
[17:25] <Tom__> i get an error on W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/phablet-team/tools/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[17:25] <Darkwing> wait4phone: I'm working on it.
[17:25] <wait4phone> eiabea: But I guess that because it's only for (Ubuntu) developers, they don't care about others
[17:25] <newwbie> its extremely easy to live boot linux from usb. will be the most effective way
[17:25] <degraa> where is the image download?
[17:25] <mnnewb> Henk_ : what network are you on with no phone calls?
[17:25] <p3droid> Tom, you may have better luck just downloading the images directly --> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/quantal/mwc-demo/
[17:25] <newwbie> all CDMA networks (verizon and sprint)
[17:26] <SilentStryk09> note to everybody: THIS IS GSM ONLY. NO CDMA.
[17:26] <SpiderDice> kukacz: I don't believe there is a flashable zip yet.
[17:26] <Tom__> thanks p3droid
[17:26] <wait4phone> degraa: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/quantal/mwc-demo/
[17:26] <napster> for now GSM only
[17:26] <eiabea> wait4phone: the instructions are pretty clear, but they don't work :D
[17:26] <kmisterk> Would have been nice for them to mention at reveal that it would be GSM only :(
[17:27] <kmisterk> Otherwise i wouldn't have forked the dough. I'm sure someone will port eventually, but just means more god damn waiting.
[17:27] <nathris> kmisterk: that was pretty much a given though
[17:27] <nathris> the verizon galaxy nexus isn't really a nexus device
[17:27] <tilal6991> Anyone compiling from source here?
[17:27] <sky770> anyone tried to flash an A10/RK3066 ?
[17:27] <Equ> Any way to flash those zips with Windows?
[17:27] <sky770> tilal6991 what device are you targeting?
[17:28] <chrispy> Takes a while to push the image dont it (nexus 4)
 the verizon galaxy nexus isn't really a nexus device << sadly true
[17:28] <Erkz> Was so prepared to flash this but no mobile data is simply a no-go for me. Looks like I'm waiting awhile.
[17:28] <kmisterk> :( shitty nomenclature errors.
[17:28] <Darkwing> kmisterk: They do... there is no toro or toro plus listed.
 GSM 900MHz T-mobile NL
[17:28] <nathris> as requested, camera screenshots: http://imgur.com/OBqAORu,p1WmrUp
[17:28] <chrispy> I can't imagine this being a day to day phone, so no mobile data is ok for developing... it is a dev preview...
[17:28] <kknikolas> the conversation here before launch was better ;(
[17:28] <newwbie_> thanks!
[17:28] <kmisterk> Yeah i know but that wasn't revealed Tull thus morning.
[17:29] <kmisterk> Ugh. Oh well. Back to android i go.
[17:29] <mnnewb_> Can GSM users make phone calls?
[17:29] <trsohmers> Greetings, Programs
[17:29] <nathris> mnnewb_: yes
[17:29] <ingar195_> so there is not a flashable zip yet
[17:29] <chrispy> I think calls should be ok yes.
[17:29] <nathris> i called my voicemail
[17:29] <chrispy> I"ll let you know in 2 minutes!
[17:29] <Equ> Will flashing those IMG files with fastboot work?
[17:29] <Erkz> Oh of course, but it said enthusiasts as well, but I depend too heavily on a mobile browser. I could've lived with everything else.
[17:29] <kknikolas> calls work in germany
[17:30] <MostHated> anyone who has it installed, as far as calls and text messages, think it may be usable on a daily basis?
[17:30] <chris___> any instructions for mac users? or just the flash order would be fine too
[17:30] <Leonard_> how can i install ubuntu preview with windows\
[17:30] <F41L> yeah, it would've been quite awesome if mobile data and desktop dock mode worked.
[17:30] <tilal6991> sky770: Xperia T
[17:30] <trsohmers> You NEED TO USE UBUNTU TO FLASH
[17:30] <tilal6991> I've manageed
[17:30] <newwbie_> leonard_ darkwing is working on it
[17:30] <trsohmers> or Debian
[17:30] <chrispy> I can confirm it works fine on parallells 5 with ubuntu 12 for flashing
[17:30] <kknikolas> MostHated: u have no mobile data - that is a problem
[17:30] <mnnewb_> chris__ I think you will need to boot into linux from a live USB or live CD
[17:30] <djamigo> is the interface as smooth as jellybean or windows phone?
[17:30] <MostHated> ah
[17:30] <petko10> fresh from the mailing list (haven't tried it) : from here http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/quantal/mwc-demo/
[17:30] <petko10> 1. unlock your android device with fastboot on any OS(fastboot oem unlock)
[17:30] <petko10> 2. Download the recovery img specific to your device, also download the device specific .zip file and also the big 481mb file from the link above.
[17:30] <petko10> 3. paste the two zip files on the root of your mobile phone
[17:30] <petko10> 4. flash the recovery image with (fastboot flash recovery device-specific-recovery.img)
[17:30] <nathris> this channel is going to be full of misinformation today
[17:30] <petko10> 5. boot into recovery
[17:30] <petko10> 6. and flash the smaller file first and then the bigger file.
[17:30] <petko10> 7 Reboot.
[17:31] <sky770> Memory usage has not been optimized?
[17:31] <sky770> wtf
[17:31] <Tom___> any news on this eror:  W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/phablet-team/tools/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found?
[17:31] <trsohmers> Is there a developer IRC room?
[17:31] <sky770> not even basic idl'ed apps?
[17:31] <sky770> trsohmers: this is what it was supposed to be :|
[17:31] <sky770> :D
[17:31] <Leonard_> how can i install with ubuntu
[17:32] <newwbie_> read the damn instructions on their website
[17:32] <bots> Leonard_, RTFM
[17:32] <sky770> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch
[17:32] <Tak> no need for unpleasantness
[17:32] <kknikolas> sky770: but hey daily updates! no other os has that feature ;P
[17:32] <trsohmers> sky770: Want to set up a separate channel? haha
[17:32] <sky770> :|
[17:32] <trsohmers> sky770: I mean, I
[17:32] <ulkesh> wow, 15K/sec on image download :)
[17:32] <trsohmers> sky770: I mean I'm happy that people are trying ubuntu... but this is kinda annoying
[17:32] <sky770> sorry fellas am already hanging in like 3-4 channels..meh wth :D
[17:33] <ingar195_> petko10 im only findinga file on 64 mega for my phone
[17:33] <sky770> yep..annoying it is :p
[17:33] <Leonard_> am new to ubuntu...https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch does not provide detailed information
[17:33] <sky770> ops should sticky this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch
[17:33] <Darkwing> 3 or 4 channels? Lucky
[17:33] <Darkwing> I'm on 170+ Channels across 4 servers lol
[17:33] <wait4phone> I'm back here. My IRC crashed. Still downloading the big .zip
[17:33] <trsohmers> This is a very early version that is meant for developers/enthusiasts... you should try at a later time
[17:33] <F41L> Leonard_, wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[17:34] <sky770> darkwing:  :| *big green grin* luckyy you :p
[17:34] <VikenEndo> hi guys
[17:34] <jounih> trsohmers: #ubuntu-devel
[17:34] <chris___> gah 1/2 hour to download the 500 mb file
[17:34] <kknikolas> wait4phone: i have 79% -___________________-
[17:34] <Tom___> any news on this eror:  W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/phablet-team/tools/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found?
[17:34] <VikenEndo> where can i donwload the nexus 7 image?
[17:34] <Mengine> VikenEndo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch
[17:34]  * sky770 gonna wait up till room is ch up a bit :(
[17:35] <tranfzx> do you need ubuntu on your desktop to install it?
[17:35] <jbooth> Tom: it doesn't have GSM data connection. Did you grab a wifi connection?
[17:35] <petko10> ingar195 as I said , I haven't tried it . You can ask on the ubuntu-phone mailing list (google it , it's in Launchpad)
[17:35] <buriddu> isn't it possible to turn on hsdpa network data on Nexus 4?
[17:35] <wait4phone> kknikolas: I have 150/481 MB (Chrome does not show %)
[17:35]  * sky770 hopes guys in here will up some vid on tube about general perf. :)
[17:35] <kknikolas> tranfzx: yes at least run it on a usb stick http://www.linuxliveusb.com/
[17:35] <VikenEndo> so it will download with the flash command and do everything on its own?
[17:35] <ulkesh> tranfzx: given that the install guide talks about using apt, yes...but you can do live usb/cd or install a VM as well i believe
[17:36] <tranfzx> thanks guys :)
[17:36] <eiabea> Got it :) for all of you how get a black screen after flashing: flash stock image from google and try again, worked for me :)
[17:36] <chatlevik> my phone boots up to a blank screen, what to do?
[17:36] <bots> 4MB/sec woot!
[17:36] <kknikolas> chatlevik: paint it
[17:36] <Leonard_> please provide me with a detailed information on how to flash my phone
[17:36] <om26er_> chatlevik, try rebooting
[17:36] <chris___> has the source been published yet?
[17:36] <tilal6991> chris___: Yep
[17:37] <triebstahl> how can i install it from a windows-pc?
[17:37] <tilal6991> http://phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb
[17:37] <ulkesh> my download is pretty slow, anyone know if i have to re-image, will it require a full redownload?  or will it use what i've already downloaded? (talking about the phablet-flash script)
[17:37] <kknikolas> triebstahl: http://www.linuxliveusb.com/
[17:37] <krs360> got it all installed on my nexus, is there a place to customise all the stuff tho? like recent contacts, etc
[17:37] <degraa> i have a  aguro phone, i have to download all the .img called maguro?
[17:37] <bots> im sure someone will hack together a ril for toro soon
[17:37] <wait4phone> eiabea: Did you use the big 481MB .zip?
[17:37] <chrispy> just made a call on it so that works at least!
[17:37] <chatlevik> t<kknikolas> Turn off an on?
[17:37] <ingar195_> hey for you nexus 4 guys http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38292312
[17:37] <triebstahl> thanks @kknikolas ^^
[17:38] <lallenlowe> is there any software from the ubuntu repos that works??
[17:38] <eiabea> wait4phone: where?
[17:38] <lallenlowe> and has anyone tried docking it over HDMI yet?
[17:38] <kknikolas> chatlevik: that should work 2 lol
[17:38] <mutantkeyboard> downloading :) finally
[17:38] <om26er> degraa, yeah do that, even though you won't be needing the .....boot img
[17:38] <wait4phone> eiabea: how did you install? are you using the Ubuntu instructions or not?
[17:38] <kknikolas> mutantkeyboard: that download takes about 40minutes
[17:39] <kknikolas> wait4phone: i use them
[17:39] <mutantkeyboard> use instructions..
[17:39]  * sky770 PPL interedted in porting might wanna hang out here: #ubuntu-on-air
[17:39] <sky770> interested*
[17:39] <Fruit_> Hi could you help me?
[17:39] <Mengine> should the autodeploy.zip push take over 10 minutes?
[17:39] <sky770> damn typos* :/
[17:39] <stylemistake> installing that shit :)
[17:39] <eiabea> wait4phone: yes i did, after flashing the stock image
[17:39] <krs360> is there an actual easy place to sms from? atm can only find the part to reply from
[17:39] <kknikolas> Mengine: i think not
[17:39] <ulkesh> are there any mirrors for downloading the ubuntu tablet image?
[17:39] <Mengine> kknikolas: ok :(
[17:40] <stylemistake> going to have a sexual intercourse with a phone
[17:40] <wait4phone> eiabea: I'm on Windows so I have to figure out what files to download myself
[17:40] <kknikolas> Mengine: give it a second try the downloaded files are still on your pc
[17:40] <om26er> ulkesh, is http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/quantal/mwc-demo/ slow ?
[17:40] <ak3n> How to close applications?
[17:40] <om26er> wait4phone, which phone you have, I could help you figure that
[17:40] <bots> sudo killall
[17:40] <tranfzx> i'm kinda scared by this: "In rare circumstances, the Nexus4 may get into a state where it may not boot at all after the battery is drained ( even into recovery ). If this happens, the only way to restore it is to disassemble the back of the phone and unplug/plug the battery connector." do you think that is something to worry about?
[17:40] <Equ> Getting 150kbps from there with 100M connection
[17:40] <om26er> ak3n, try volume down key
[17:40] <ulkesh> om26er: yes, i'm getting like 20K/sec average...i have 60Mbit internet :)
[17:41] <buriddu> yes, it's pretty slooooow
[17:41] <bots>  I just downed at 4.5MB/sec
[17:41] <ulkesh> om26er: granted this just released so i get it
[17:41] <noxx> If I download all the necessary files now, can I use the phablet script later without downloading all the files again?
[17:41] <mutantkeyboard> it's ok for the first stage guys
[17:41] <dmj_nova> Is there documentation somewhere on how to run your own programs on the phone or tablet?
[17:41] <om26er> ulkesh, ouch, i think torrents would have helped
[17:41] <holstein> tranfzx: scared? this is not a final release
[17:41] <mutantkeyboard> second stage goes over 500 kbps
[17:41] <Estragon> noxx: yes
[17:41] <ulkesh> om26er: completely agree, i just hope if i have to reimage that it won't have to fully redownload
[17:41] <wait4phone> om26er: maguro (Gnex)
[17:41] <kknikolas> Equ: me 2 the server is skow like *****
[17:41] <Equ> Someone answer can this OS be installed with fastboot on Windows?
[17:41] <Estragon> noxx: it will resume the download
[17:41] <yefim323> Is there a torrent for it yet?
[17:41] <Lyrex> hi
[17:41] <Leonard_> how do i know the image for andriod phone or tablet?
[17:41] <noxx> ok
[17:42] <mutantkeyboard> you don't
[17:42] <mutantkeyboard> Leonard
[17:42] <Lyrex> doesnt work with nexus 7 3g right? :(
[17:42] <kknikolas> Leonard_: u now what device u have?
[17:42] <noxx> Thanks a bunch
[17:42] <mutantkeyboard> when you run command
[17:42] <mutantkeyboard> phablet-flash -b it downloads the data correspondingly to you rdevice
[17:42] <Fruit_> (Win 7) Where can I download this? And maguru takju
[17:42] <ak3n> om26er, really?
[17:42] <Leonard_> samsung galaxy s iii
[17:42] <Mengine> canceled the push, the file is 504.2 MB, and the md5sum check in the installation is telling its up to date.
[17:42] <frankencode> dmj_nova: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes
[17:42] <htchd2> hello. can i install ubuntu on a htc hd2
[17:42] <yefim323> There is no image
[17:42] <mutantkeyboard> no
[17:42] <om26er> wait4phone, these should be enough http://paste.ubuntu.com/1700438/
[17:42] <krs360> guys is there a place to access SMS easily? e.g create new ones
[17:42] <yefim323> For the s3
[17:43] <wickwire> Got disconnected
[17:43] <dmj_nova> frankencode: was trying to find that, must've missed it thanks
[17:43] <wickwire> I've successfully installed ubuntu phone though
[17:43] <ben1066> Is ubuntu phone/touch using something other than X? I can't find any hints as to what it's using
[17:43] <om26er> ak3n, yeah that's just a stop gap till closing of files in the dash is implemented. I would hope soon
[17:43] <wickwire> galaxy nexus maguro
[17:43] <stadicon> Lyrex, the grouper version should work on Nexus 7 3G too, because there is a link on the original Nexus 7 3G firmware
[17:43] <htchd2> will it be possible to install ubuntu on a hd2?
[17:43] <Xorg> hi all, can someone know if we can dual boot on Android 4.2.2 and Ubuntu touch with Nexus 4 device plz? Thanks :)
[17:43] <Leonard_> how can i install it on Samsung galaxy S III?
[17:43] <wickwire> hmmmm I have GSM but I'm not being able to make/receive calls
[17:43] <Fruit_> please I need the download for maguro takju I know it is at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/quantal/mwc-demo/ but which one???
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[17:44] <Lyrex> stadicon? Must i flash the original firmware first?
[17:44] <Great_Day> Leonard_: you can' t for now
[17:44] <wickwire> I downloaded all the images but there was no need
[17:44] <htchd2> ok. thx
[17:44] <yefim323> You cannot install on the s3
[17:44] <wickwire> the guide does all that
[17:44] <wait4phone> om26er: Thanks. so "quantal-preinstalled-system-armel+maguro.img" is not needed?
[17:44] <om26er> htchd2, i guess when someone from xda ports it to that device. tomorrow will be a session to teach people on how to port to other devices
[17:44] <Leonard_> why?
[17:44] <mhall119> Fruit_: use the phablet-flash tool on Ubuntu
[17:44] <mhall119> it will install the right one
[17:44] <om26er> Leonard_, same for S3
[17:44] <kirior> is there an guide for windows users to follow or just Linux/ubuntu (desktop) based guide at the moment?
[17:44] <mibofra> hi :)
[17:44] <mhall119> kirior: not currently, no
[17:44] <wickwire> if the phone is rooted and you run phablet-flash, it will do everything
[17:45] <mhall119> only installs from Ubuntu are supported atm
[17:45] <mutantkeyboard> Fruit_ I suggest you to download Ubuntu Desktop edition and run if from USB then follow the steps
[17:45] <Fruit_> mhall119 I´ve got Windows 7
[17:45] <ulkesh> om26er: when i went to the site direct and started the download, it went very fast...not sure why the script is so slow (unless it has some sort of speed limiter in it)
[17:45] <ak3n> om26er, ok, thanks.
[17:45] <ubuntu_fan_1> anyone know if you can bypass this install process to install ubuntu on the Verizon Galaxy Nexus
[17:45] <om26er> wickwire, i think it will work even if its not rooted
[17:45] <Equ> Someone who thinks can help me with flashing this with windows query me
[17:45] <ubuntu_fan_1> I don't care if I can't make phone calls or send texts or anything like that.
[17:45] <bots> wow it really does take a long time to push autodeploy
[17:45] <mibofra> I love this project , but I think my GT-S5830i phone can't run it , it's true?
[17:45] <Leonard_> please send me the phone image link
[17:45] <mhall119> Fruit_: I think you can install Ubuntu in a VM, or run it off a USB drive, to flash your device
[17:45] <kirior> mhall119: can i use ubuntu live img (from USB) to follow the steps and flash the dev preview? or will it not work?
[17:45] <krs360> how the hell do you close apps? anyone
[17:45] <bots> not nearly as fast as adb should be
[17:45] <Fruit_> THX
[17:45] <om26er> ulkesh, well then i guess you should download those files
[17:45] <mhall119> ubuntu_fan_1: no, the CDMA version of the Galaxy Nexus isn't supported
[17:45] <kknikolas> krs360: sudo killall
[17:45] <Niyaz> please paste the ubuntu for phone dowload link
[17:45] <mutantkeyboard> ubuntu_fan_1: you  can call and send sms as well as do a wireless networking
[17:46] <mhall119> krs360: drag up from the bottom to open the HUD, then click the X
[17:46] <mibofra> LOL I see the chan is busy  :))
[17:46] <ubuntu_fan_1> I understand it isn't supported. Im asking if I can bypass the supported devices thing.
[17:46] <GiZiM> Of course there is no CDMA support *sigh*
[17:46] <Leonard_> please paste the ubuntu for phone dowload link
[17:46] <Estragon> will there be nightly releases ?
[17:46] <mutantkeyboard> oh no, no CDMA support yet
[17:46] <wickwire> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[17:46] <ortrigger> GiZiM: that was my thought exactly.
[17:46] <mhall119> Niyaz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[17:46] <Kimo> hey
[17:46] <Xorg> Someone tried to install this OS on Nexus 4?
[17:46] <jounih> Estragon: yes
[17:46] <mutantkeyboard> yes
[17:46] <ubuntu_fan_1> Im not an idiot, I know it isn't supported, Im asking If i can bypass that support
[17:46] <wickwire> rooted Galaxy Nexus Maguro GSM installed
[17:46] <SpiderDice> Niyaz: There is no download link. You have to install from Linux.
[17:46] <Kimo> Did anyone get a black screen after the whole process of pushing finished?
[17:47] <mhall119> ubuntu_fan_1: I don't know, sorry
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[17:47] <Niyaz> thanks mhall119
[17:47] <ravirdv> hi, is anyone try to get it working on N9?
[17:47] <mutantkeyboard> Kimo: if you get blank screen just do phablet-flash
[17:47] <krs360> dont seem to be able to drag the bottom up
[17:47] <Xorg> ok, did u let Android 4.2.2 or u erase him ?
[17:47] <mhall119> Kimo: some people have reported it, it's being looked into
[17:47] <deega> Where can I find the source code?
[17:47] <mhall119> krs360: what app?
[17:47] <Estragon> jounih: when will nightlies be available ? From today ?
[17:47] <krs360> when it works i can only use it to switch between screens
[17:47] <moni_> does the installation erase my sd card?
[17:47] <Xorg> Ty ingar159
[17:47] <Kimo> thank you mutantkeyboard
[17:47] <krs360> mha - anything in general
[17:47] <ogra_> deega, http://phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb
 still downloadig the files
[17:47] <ortrigger> Are there plans to support the Toro variant of the galaxy nexus?
[17:48] <krs360> camera for example
[17:48] <deega> thanks a lot
[17:48] <GiZiM> ortrigger: Don't hold your breath
[17:48] <mutantkeyboard> krs360: camera works
 havent tried it yet
[17:48] <krs360> yeah but i cant close it, it would seem
[17:48] <wickwire> gsm isn't working for me - GNexus Maguro GSM
[17:48] <scram> I imagine you sd will be wiped
[17:48] <ogra_> ortrigger, its all open, probably someone from xda-developers will
[17:48] <sudi> how to close apps?
[17:48] <shadyKhan> anyone try installing on windows?
[17:48] <mhall119> krs360: you can't drag up from the bottom of the camera app, halfway up the screen, to activate the HUD?
[17:49] <wickwire> close apps > press down slide up, a small icon appears in de middle
[17:49] <ak3n> how to change time?
[17:49] <mutantkeyboard> if you've had an android 4.2.2 installed previously on 4.2.2 you will need to accept a host key on the device, if you already had adb installed, do the following
[17:49] <mutantkeyboard> On the workstation-> adb kill-server; adb start-server
[17:49] <krs360> also, is there a way to get into some sort of SMS screen? to see received msgs etc
[17:49] <nexus7user> installing on n7 now.. i hope it doesn't suck
[17:49] <odb36> i think you have to use live ubuntu cd to install it with windows
[17:49] <ortrigger> GiZiM: I didn't figure there would be. ogra: That wouldn't surprise me. Are android binaries supported in this?
[17:49] <joncasagrande> To close app you must flip your finger from the botton into the middle (serch icon) and press the X in options
[17:49] <om26er> scram, the sd card is wiped when you unlock you phone
[17:49] <mhall119> sudi: swipte up half-way to open the hud, press the X to close the app
[17:49] <ogra_> ortrigger, nope
[17:49] <krs360> mha - nope..
[17:49] <scram>  yes I was answering for someone else. Thanks though
[17:49] <joncasagrande> how to install clock app and evernote, does anybody know?
[17:49] <krs360> ah nm
[17:49] <wait4phone> Found download mirror: http://d-h.st/users/Irvysan/?fld_id=11233#files
[17:49] <SpiderDice> nexus7user: Please let me know how the install process goes for you
[17:49] <krs360> need to use the search icon
[17:49] <krs360> thanks for thatg
[17:49] <mhall119> krs360: it's working on my Nexus 7, what device do you have?
[17:50] <oio> soooo is this stand alone ? or runs on top of android?
[17:50] <krs360> same as you, i was just being a bit dense, sorry.
[17:50] <nexus7user> so far so good spider.
[17:50] <lmatoso_> what about dualboot?
[17:50] <mhall119> oio: stand alone, it'll replace Android on your devie
[17:50] <shr1k> hello all
[17:50] <odb36> here is the first forum for ubuntu phone os
[17:50] <mutantkeyboard> oio: standalone
[17:50] <odb36> http://www.uposforum.com/thread-6-post-6.html
[17:50] <oio> or uses java or C C++?
[17:50] <bhoj> Is there a way to take screen shot ?
[17:50] <mutantkeyboard> lmatoso_: not dual boot
[17:50] <shr1k> is there a way to take screenshots on the Nexus 7 build?
[17:50] <Leonard_> hello, i need the phone image for galaxy s iii
[17:50] <oio> wiiiii!!! native
[17:50] <mutantkeyboard> oio: uses qml - C/C++
[17:50] <Estragon> how long is pushing autodeploy.zip supposed to take ?
[17:50] <oio> code so smooooooth//////
[17:50] <berdario> I reckon you can access the system with ssh (and maybe there's a TerminalApp)... but does anyone know if it's possible to run normal desktop apps as well? like plain gtk applications (e.g. gedit), I understand that the user experience will be poor, but is it possible?
[17:50] <mhall119> Leonard_: GS3 isn't supported atm
[17:50] <kirior> can i use Ubuntu live CD to flash this on my phone? or will i need a fully installed ubuntu OS?
[17:50] <ortrigger> ogra: go figure. If that's the case, then porting this to the Toro will be more of a pain than most developers will be willing to put up with.
[17:51] <krs360> mhall119: is there some messaging screen?
[17:51] <oio> SMOOOOTH FUCK JAVA
[17:51] <Estragon> already running for like 10 minutes
[17:51] <nexus7user> lmatoso, thats a valad question. is it possible to dual boot at this time?
[17:51] <yefim323> What's the package manager like?
[17:51] <icota> berdario: that's what i'm wondering as well
[17:51] <GreNME> Please tell me we don't need to be at MWC to get this
[17:51] <krs360> mhall119: that;s easy to browse received msgs
[17:51] <berdario> icota: uh, you've already asked before?
[17:51] <mhall119> krs360: not yet, no
[17:51] <jezy> i have the 2 zips on my download folder, but they did not install i guess, rebooting phone and still android
[17:51] <icota> berdario: nope, i'm just +1
[17:51] <jezy> i did use phablet-flash - b
[17:52] <shr1k> mhall119: would you know if there's a way to take screenshots on the Nexus 7 build?
[17:52] <jezy> do i need to install it from the phone someway
[17:52] <debb1046> does it run X11 or is it some framebuffer?
[17:52] <berdario> ok, does anyone that have the system installed know if you can test arbitrary applications?
[17:52] <icota> berdario: i'm looking at the code and it might be that it's only a QML compositor app that doesn't use X11 nor wayland
[17:52] <Leonard_> i now galaxy s iii is not supported but it will work
[17:52] <mhall119> shr1k: I can get a screenshot using adb
[17:52] <berdario> icota: thanks
[17:52] <krs360> ah ok.
[17:52] <Tak> actually, I'm curious as well whether it's xorg or wayland or something else
[17:52] <icota> Tak: me too, but i'm not sure
[17:52] <krs360> mhall119: finally, is there a way to remove these "people" etc from the main screen
[17:52] <Leonard_>  i now galaxy s iii is not supported but it will work, right?
[17:52] <sudi> its slow like hell on my galaxy nexus
[17:52] <nexus7user> the image download process i will say is going damn slow
[17:52] <tilal6991> I'm fairly sure it's surfaceflinger
[17:53] <tilal6991> Since it's android base
[17:53] <mhall119> krs360: not atm, there's a lot of mock data on the preview image
[17:53] <yefim323> Leonard, no
[17:53] <mutantkeyboard> sudi: reboot it
[17:53] <_inf> somebody got it running yet?
[17:53] <mhall119> so that you can see how it will work once we have apps/lenses providing real data
[17:53] <NebulaFox> How do you add the repositry for Natty Narwhal
[17:53] <sudi> mutantkeyboard: how
[17:53] <icota> tilal6991: it might be surfaceflinger just for the main "compositor" app
[17:53] <SpiderDice> Here's a N7 thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957561
[17:53] <mutantkeyboard> adb reboot
[17:53] <icota> tilal6991: rest is just QML apps composited within that
[17:53] <tilal6991> icota: That would make sense
[17:54] <ulkesh> _inf: flashing now :)
[17:54] <tzvi> _inf, on what device?
[17:54] <krs360> mhall119:  thats ok.. kinda makes it very hard to see sms convo tho =/
[17:54] <tzvi> I have in on my nexus 7
[17:54] <Leonard_> but its not fair that i cant install ubuntu on galaxy s iii after i have waited for so long for it. pls help install it
[17:54] <degraa> how is ubuntu os? is it great?
[17:54] <samtate> Hello
[17:54] <sudi> the phone didn't ask me for my sim code
[17:54] <OpException> Estragon: autodeploy.zip pushed in less than a minute for me on my N4
[17:54] <samtate> Ubuntu wont install on my Nexus 7
[17:54] <joghurt> leonard, No
[17:54] <sudi> besides who are the people in my phone book
[17:55] <tzvi> it's an extreme alpha
[17:55] <mhall119> Leonard_: you'll need to wait for somebody to port the install image to the GS3
[17:55] <SpiderDice> samtate: Check this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38291638&postcount=301
[17:55] <Tribaal> well "developper preview" what did you expect
[17:55] <mhall119> samtate: what's the problem/.
[17:55] <krs360> im just a little amazed that there's nothing to view sms, once you replyto a msg its not possible to access it again?
[17:55] <mhall119> ?
[17:55] <mhall119> sudi: there is mock data in the preview
[17:55] <mrkrstphr1> autodeploy current pushing to my Nexus 7, but it sure is taking awhile
[17:55] <samtate>  Ubuntu wont install on my Nexus 7: It hangs at "Pushing quantal-preintalled-phablet-armhf to sdcard/autodeploy"
[17:55] <mhall119> mrkrstphr1: yes, it does
[17:56] <ulkesh> samtate: it takes a while to push the image
[17:56] <sudi> how do i install an app
[17:56] <mutantkeyboard> samtate wait for it a little bit
[17:56] <joghurt> same here, hangs on pushing quantal etc
[17:56] <NebulaFox> I seem to have a problem adding the repository since I am on Natty Narwhal
[17:56] <samtate> ulkesh: Any idea how long? Been like 10 mins now
[17:56] <Marassanya> my Gnex is booting into ubuntu right now
[17:56] <Estragon> sam1am: this step took about 10 minutes on my nexus 7
[17:56] <rsalveti> samtate: kill adb (pkill adb) and start it again
[17:56] <sam1am> Hey dudes - just to confirm: you keep your custom recovery if you install this? So you can nandroid switch between installs? Or does it kill recovery?
[17:56] <sudi> when i press on youtube nothing happens
[17:56] <ulkesh> samtate: it's a 400+MB file...just look in a file manager app in /sdcard to see it
[17:56] <rsalveti> adb hangs sometimes
[17:56] <mhall119> sudi: you don't, yes, but using the SDK you can deploy your apps to the device
[17:56] <sam1am> samtate: ^
[17:56] <Estragon> samtate: this step took about 10 minutes on my nexus 7
[17:56] <sudi> mhall119: ahh i see
[17:56] <samtate> huh ok :)
[17:56] <gsxarakiri> peop;e how instal ubuntu with windiws7?
[17:56] <mhall119> yeah, 10 minutes for my N7 too
[17:56] <ak3n> How to change clock time?
[17:57] <tux_> gsxarakiri, ask in #ubuntu
[17:57] <joghurt> 7not possible on win
[17:57] <samtate> Is mobile data working on the Nexus 4?
[17:57] <OpException> use an Ubuntu live CD or USB drive to install from windows. Or use an Ubuntu VM
[17:57] <arthur_> hello
[17:57] <Estragon> mhall119: how much time on recovery with bugdroid ?
[17:57] <dmj_nova> samtate: documentation say no
[17:57] <mhall119> Estragon: what/
[17:57] <joghurt> What to expect after flashing  For detailed information check the release notes      Shell and core applications     Connection to the GSM network (on Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 4)     Phone calls and SMS (on Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 4)     Networking via Wifi     Functional camera (front and back)      Device accessible through the Android Developer Bridge tool (adb)
[17:57] <mutantkeyboard> booting
[17:57] <Satotaku> Can touch preview not be installed from within windows?
[17:57] <mhall119> ?
[17:57] <nexus7user> ok mine just started pushing at 12:57
[17:57] <samtate> dmj_nova: Ah. I'll hang off from installing then
[17:57] <Cortez> how is that going?
[17:57] <lool> samtate: nope; from the release notes: "Mobile data is not supported, data is available via Wi-Fi only."
[17:57] <sam1am> samtate: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[17:57] <dmj_nova> samtate: gsm works
[17:58] <Henk__> What baseband do we need on the nexus 4?
[17:58] <krs360> mhall119: found it. if you get an sms click the msg bubble and then you can go back from inside that
[17:58] <dmj_nova> samtate: wifi data works
[17:58] <joghurt> @sato , no, use a VM
[17:58] <meetingology> joghurt: Error: "sato" is not a valid command.
[17:58] <sam1am> Will installing this kill my recovery?
[17:58] <dmj_nova> samtate: 3g data does not
[17:58] <Satotaku> oh a VM is sufficient ?
[17:58] <ingar159> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38292312
[17:58] <joghurt> nope, recovery should stay untouched
[17:58] <kknikolas> dont use vm for that kind of stuff
[17:58] <mutantkeyboard> recovery is flashed with stock android recovery
[17:58] <sudi> can i make phonecalls with this build?
[17:58] <mutantkeyboard> yes
[17:58] <krs360> mhall119:  goto phone then click convos = sms
[17:58] <napster> yes
[17:59] <joghurt> For all Windows guys, i recommend using WUBI
[17:59] <thexyz> kknikolas: why?
[17:59] <mhall119> krs360: I have a tablet, so it won't work for me anyway :)
[17:59] <napster> calls & SMS
[17:59] <Satotaku> same instructions if I'm getting the tablet build?
[17:59] <Satotaku> for my nexus 7
[17:59] <NebulaFox> so no help on the repository then?
[17:59] <WINDOWSUSER_> so... no windows support for flashing?
[17:59] <dmj_nova> can one create applications that use something other than qt and run in the phone mode?
[17:59] <krs360> ah ok
[17:59] <mhall119> Satotaku: yes
[17:59] <OpException> no need to install ubuntu, just use a live USB with presistent storage.
[17:59] <joghurt> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install?action=show&redirect=TouchInstallProcess
[17:59] <ulkesh> i just flashed to my nexus 7...it rebooted and it seems to show a lock screen, but it's not doing anything no matter where/what i touch...any thoughts?
[17:59] <shrik> mhall119, thanks for the screenshot response -- that worked fine. got disc'ed earlier.
[17:59] <dmj_nova> Qt looks fine, I'm just wondering where the limits are at this point
[17:59] <mhall119> ulkesh: swipe from the left side
[18:00] <napster> WINDOWSUSER_: You may use a live ubuntu
[18:00] <ulkesh> mhall119: oh duh, thank you
[18:00] <liecno> ulkesh: swipe from left to right
[18:00] <mrkrstphr1> ssgmrX4rui9F
[18:00] <Evi1john1> ok anyone with verizon samsung galaxy get the image working?
[18:00] <WINDOWSUSER_> live ubuntu?
[18:00] <gsxarakiri> People? it again I, how to install ubuntu for phone on Win7?
[18:00] <Satotaku> how functional is tablet build?
[18:00] <joghurt> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install?action=show&redirect=TouchInstallProcess
[18:00] <mhall119> Evi1john1: I don't think the images will work on that model yet
[18:00] <joghurt> "
[18:00] <kknikolas> thexyz: a vm isnt that stable and smooth than a life usb
[18:00] <joghurt> !
[18:00] <joncasagrande> does anyboy know how to change clock time?
[18:00] <mhall119> Evi1john1: you'll need to wait for a port
[18:01] <Evi1john1> soooo its in the works?
[18:01] <joghurt> no
[18:01] <Evi1john1> for CDMA/LTE?
[18:01] <mhall119> Evi1john1: if someone from the community i working on it
[18:01] <thexyz> kknikolas: ok, let's see
[18:01] <mhall119> Evi1john1: it's not being done by Canonical
[18:01] <MiniT1m> Howdy
[18:01] <jbooth> joncasagrande: read the release notes
[18:01] <Satotaku> daily driver?
[18:01] <newwbie> NO
[18:01] <kknikolas> WINDOWSUSER_: http://www.linuxliveusb.com/
[18:01] <Evi1john1> really? THats dissapointing
[18:01] <joghurt> THE problem is that the LTE drovers are closed sourced, no port possible
[18:01] <thexyz> too bad canonical does only provide phablet-tools for ubuntu
[18:01] <Satotaku> didn't think so
[18:01] <WINDOWSUSER_> cheers
[18:02] <mhall119> Evi1john1: the community is bigger anyway, so I'm sure it'll be ported
[18:02] <nexus7user> i need the iphone image!
[18:02] <nexus7user> just kidding
[18:02] <jbooth> If you didn't need mobile data, you might manage to use it as DD.
[18:02] <Satotaku> apparently daily driver by october though
[18:02] <shrik> hi all, this might be a stupid question, but all the people and the "14 tweets received" in the lock screen are 'mock-ups', right?
[18:02] <Xorg-Nexus> Is he possible to dual boot with Android/Ubuntu touch on Nexus 4 device? :)
[18:02] <sihorton_> can anyone point me to a tutorial / instructions on setting up Ubuntu Touch dual boot?
[18:02] <joghurt> yep mockups
[18:02] <jbooth> I would guess it won't take long to get mobile data though
[18:02] <scionicspectre> Is it possible to install Ubuntu Touch within a Virtual Machine?
[18:02] <Atheos_> Does this have to replace Android on my N4 ? or is there any way of dual booting ? As I see it cant be used as a daily driver
[18:02] <frankencode> nexus7user: why kidding?
[18:02] <scionicspectre> (like VirtualBox)
[18:02] <MiniT1m> I wonder too scionicspectre
[18:02] <joghurt> possible, no guarantee it works
[18:02] <nexus7user> iphone version?
[18:02] <Guest20131> anybody say if ubuntu for phone work on freeruner ? and if i have no ubuntu on my computer how flash
[18:02] <sihorton_> I have a nexus 7  but it is annoying to have to wipe everything to run ubuntu touch
[18:02] <degraa> what is? quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip
[18:03] <thexyz> nexus7user: http://s3.amazonaws.com/i.jpg.to/t/3793
[18:03] <mhall119> Guest20131: no freerunner images available, no
[18:03] <Satotaku> this isn't a rom so so I don't think multirom will be of help
[18:03] <joghurt> freerunner can ran ubuntu anyway?
[18:03] <mhall119> Guest20131: you can flash from a liveUSB or VM
[18:03] <Xorg-Nexus> Is he possible to dual boot with Android/Ubuntu touch on Nexus 4 device? :)
[18:03] <joghurt> search XDA for DUAL BOOT
[18:03] <Guest20131> ok
[18:03] <napster> joghurt: http://sebastian-bergmann.de/archives/801-OpenMoko-Freerunner-and-Ubuntu.html
[18:04] <scionicspectre> Yeah, just use Virtualbox or a LiveUSB if you're on Windows. It will be easier than trying to shoehorn the instructions into a windows host.
[18:04] <Scopes> Can anybody tell me approx how long it should take to push quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip to the device?
[18:04] <Mengine> Have been waiting 30 minutes on the .zip push now :(
[18:04] <Travel> does 3g work with the nexus phone
[18:04] <nexus7user> @thexyz thats funny
[18:04] <meetingology> nexus7user: Error: "thexyz" is not a valid command.
[18:04] <OpException> a Live USB will be easier for those that do not have Virtualbox VMplayer installed on windows.
[18:04] <Scopes> Mengine: that's not encouraging for my situation then
[18:04] <nexus7user> thexyz thats funny
[18:04] <jounih> dual booting would be great.. hopefully someone will build it
[18:04] <VVlasy> travel You are not the only one
[18:04] <Travel> any imap email clients in the image for the phone
[18:05] <Mengine> Scopes: I guess not :\ but others said it went a lot faster
[18:05] <mrkrstphr1> i think ubuntu is frozen on nexus 7. or at least i just don't know how to unlock it at the lock screen
[18:05] <rmcsc> Don't know the specifics for this file but pushing a ~250MB file using adb takes about 4 to 5 minutes, typically.
[18:05] <Tribaal> Mengine: I stopped, disconnected the cable and started again and it took 5 minutes
[18:05] <ak3n> How to delete all contacts?
[18:05] <Tribaal> Mengine: it's a bit rough
[18:05] <rmcsc> If it's stored locally, of course.
[18:05] <OpException> Quick swipe from left-right on lockscreen
[18:05] <Mengine> Tribaal: did the same but withought the -p
[18:05] <Travel> how do i import contacts into the phone
[18:05] <mhall119> Travel: that might not be working yet
[18:05] <Mengine> OMG its done OMG
[18:05] <mhall119> hence the mock data
[18:05] <Tribaal> Mengine: I did the -p thing the second time too
[18:05] <Tribaal> Mengine: nice
[18:06] <Guest1553> anybody know if i can flash this from my mac?
[18:06] <jbooth> Well I have ctrl-F12 running my app through qt creator, but... no gui on the phone. It is there though, I clicked on an invisible button and it made noise.
[18:06] <odb36> installation instructions for Nexus 7 tablet - http://www.uposforum.com/thread-7.html
[18:06] <rmcsc> I'm guessing a flash of this OS overwrites the phone's Recovery, right?
[18:06] <joghurt> Well, it looks like there is no settings menu?
[18:06] <nexus7user> install completed waiting for reboot!
[18:06] <Scopes> Mengine: Tribaal what does -p do?
[18:06] <Travel> 22 minutes left for my image downloadto complete. I have been waiting so long for this
[18:06] <Mengine> hmm, now i got adbd cannot run as root in production builds
[18:06] <ak3n> And how to change time?
[18:06] <killa__> so i cant just flash the ubuntu image in a custom recovery?
[18:06] <rmcsc> Guest1553: I suggest using VMware or Parallels to install Ubuntu, honestly.
[18:07] <nexus7user> is there a users manual?
[18:07] <ak3n> I do not want to know time from London.
[18:07] <Mengine> Scopes: I meant -b
[18:07] <VVlasy> read the wiki page!!!!
[18:07] <asdfagregr> 481MB at 20K/s
[18:07] <odb36> can i install UPOS on Sony Xperia device?
[18:07] <VVlasy> Everything you are asking ATM can be found there....
[18:07] <joghurt> no
[18:07] <Scopes> Mengine: gotcha thx
[18:07] <fluxim> install fails: unsupported device. its a galaxy nexus maguro (german gsm) with cyanogenMod 10.1 currently installed. Whats the problem here?
[18:07] <joghurt> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install?action=show&redirect=TouchInstallProcess
[18:07] <Guest1553> thanks rmcsc
[18:07] <Thorgal> Hi guys, I want to install the developers preview on my nexus 4, but I do not have a ubuntu installed on my system. I am running Gentoo and have all android adb tools already installed. Any other way for me to flash it on my phone?
[18:07] <nOStahl> so can this be ran in virtualbox to play with?
[18:07] <killa__> it waa just a question since im in class and didnt bring my laptop lol
[18:07] <maxjezy> after pushing files to phone i get this http://www.pasteall.org/39906
[18:07] <nexus7user> fluxim, that happened to me. unlock screen and try again
[18:08] <ogra_> nOStahl, no
[18:08] <asdfagregr> I have ubuntu in vbox. downloading nexus image to flash
[18:08] <Articx> Mengine, that i also get alot..what i try get thru :)
[18:08] <fluxim> worked, thanks
[18:08] <_inf> can one use the terminal somehow already?
[18:08] <nexus7user> yw
[18:08] <rmcsc> nOStahl: High probability of a yes.
[18:08] <OpException> Looks like it cannot connect to WiFi with hidden SSID?
[18:08] <mhall119> _inf: the terminal app is still being written
[18:08] <soeca> hi all
[18:09] <krs360> Mengine: did you manage to clear contacts?
[18:09] <soeca> i want install ubuntu phone on my nexus 7
[18:09] <nono68200> I try to remove sample content but contacts without success...
[18:09] <Mengine> maxjezy: I got the first line aswell, but did it halt before the next lines appeared?
[18:09] <nono68200> "Warning: unknown mime-type for "/etc/phone-services" -- using "application/octet-stream"
[18:09] <sudi> ok i can't make phonecalls with my galaxy nexus(german)
[18:09] <rmcsc> Man, I wish my college connection were fast enough to download this.
[18:09] <Scopes> does it seriously not locally cache the install files? Just ctrl-c'd and it's redownloading
[18:09] <Travel> any way to import contacts into the phone
[18:09] <Mengine> krs360: havent got that far  :\
[18:09] <wastrel> IdleOne: no u
[18:09] <_inf> mhall119: well, the app. but is there no other way to get a plain way to the console?
[18:09] <soeca> but i don't understand this point:"Save the version of the current image on the device, if on Android, to use as a reference to revert back to"
[18:09] <IdleOne> wastrel: thank you
[18:09] <krs360> i can do it but one by one
[18:09] <jounih> Travel: not yet
[18:09] <bots> installing on n7 and it stops at about 75% with the green dude spinny thing
[18:09] <mhall119> _inf: not that I know of, you can use adb to get shell access
[18:09] <Articx> got this all time: adbd cannot run as root in production builds anyone have an ide to pass that one? :)
[18:09] <lantizia> Hey, so my Nexus 4 arrived 2 days ago... it's the 21st - where do I download? :D
[18:09] <nexus7user> reboot seems to work
[18:10] <OpException> soeca: just write down the version #
[18:10] <krs360> shame you cant remove the data thats already there.. favorite people etc
[18:10] <jmg_> Anyone know if this can be installed on the emulator to test out?
[18:10] <Mengine> Articx: so is your halting on adbd cannot run as root in production builds?
[18:10] <liecno> soeca: just write down the build number to remember later...
[18:10] <rmcsc> lantizia: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install?action=show&redirect=TouchInstallProcess
[18:10] <_inf> hmm, so no apt-get magic yet?
[18:10] <shrik> bots: it took a really long time for me from that point, but worked eventually
[18:10] <Mengine> Articx:  its not getting any further?
[18:10] <ogra_> _inf, will come
[18:10] <bots> ok thanks shrik
[18:10] <Thorgal> Where can I dowload the image for the Nexus 4?
[18:10] <Kimo> Listen up, I flashed my GN once. All I got was a black screen. After that, someone here told me that I needed to run 'phablet flash' again. Now, every time I boot my phone, that big progress bar loads almost till the end and get stuck!
[18:10] <Articx> Mengine, Yes
[18:10] <soeca> only this???just write on a paper the build number??
[18:10] <crypticmofo> anyone playing with ubuntu yet ?
[18:11] <ogra_> Thorgal, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[18:11] <mhall119> crypticmofo: yup :)
[18:11] <crypticmofo> mhall119, how is it ?
[18:11] <Articx> Mengine, it is full speed to that one, then it stops and give that error
[18:11] <sam1am> Also interested
[18:11] <crypticmofo> i can't wait till a dev ports it to a sgs3
[18:11] <OpException> soeca, you write it down so you know which version to restore to when you decide to put android back on.
[18:11] <Thorgal> ogra_: thanks. But I do not have Ubuntu on my system. Only Gentoo
[18:11] <stylemistake> well, my opinion.....
[18:11] <mhall119> crypticmofo: it's a developer preview, so lots isn't working yet or using mock data, but you really get a feel for how it will be, and I love it
[18:11] <Mengine> Articx: kk
[18:11] <stylemistake> ubuntu phone is DAMN GREAT!!!!
[18:11] <liecno> soeca: yes, with this build number you can find the correct android version to flash to your device (only if you want to go back to android again)
[18:12] <nexus7user> good so far. alot of pictures on here that aernt mine lol
[18:12] <stylemistake> but this release is not for daily use
[18:12] <VVlasy> anyone else flashing it on nexus 7?
[18:12] <mhall119> VVlasy: I have
[18:12] <mrkrstphr1> VVlasy: yes, and done
[18:12] <stylemistake> nexus 4
[18:12] <lantizia> Any way I can dual boot Android and Ubuntu on my Nexus 4?
[18:12] <dlq84> Anyone got black screen problem after flashing on GNX?
[18:12] <rmcsc> So, wait a minute. I need Ubuntu to install this on my phone? No other distro works?
[18:12] <nexus7user> Walasy: yep
[18:12] <ulkesh> anyone able to get landscape mode on the nexus 7?
[18:12] <p4tri0t> mhall... thinking about it
[18:12] <ryansipes> Anyone know how to change the time?
[18:12] <stylemistake> lantizia: no
[18:12] <crypticmofo> mhall119, yea don't rub it in
[18:12] <crypticmofo> :D
[18:12] <mhall119> rmcsc: you can use a liveUSB or VM with Ubuntu to flash it
[18:12] <VVlasy> Good mine is just booting, are the issued listed on page that affecting the use?
[18:12] <Kimo> hello everyone
[18:12] <mrkrstphr1> ulkesh: it's on the list of known bugs. no landscape
[18:12] <mhall119> ulkesh: not yet, no
[18:12] <crypticmofo> i been trying ubuntu look alikes in android market
[18:12] <sam1am> rmcsc: You need a linux computer. Fortunately your phone is one.
[18:12] <p4tri0t> any problems with nex7
[18:13] <Articx> @mengine And you are stuck on smae place still?
[18:13] <Tribaal> rmcsc: you can surely flash it from another distro - but you're on your own
[18:13] <meetingology> Articx: Error: "mengine" is not a valid command.
[18:13] <liecno> rmcsc: other distros, derived from ubuntu also work, I used mint
[18:13] <ulkesh> mrkrstphr1 and mhall119: thanks
[18:13] <aliendude5300> Is there any way to run the images that were just released in an emulator, similar to how it is with the Android SDK?
[18:13] <VVlasy> Or are they still valid? Like they say bluetooth doesnt work in 13.04 on n7
[18:13] <nygfan760> Trying to manually install on a Nexus 7, any help?
[18:13] <kknikolas> how to acces terminal (for killall)
[18:13] <stylemistake> currently there is nothing to watch
[18:13] <mhall119> aliendude5300: not yet, the emulator is being worked on
[18:13] <mrkrstphr1> anyone gotten it to ask for a wifi password? i check the box for my SSID but it never asks
[18:13] <stylemistake> some apps there are even not working
[18:13] <nygfan760> I'm not running Ubuntu so I can't use the commands
[18:13] <mhall119> VVlasy: lots still doesn't work, it's a developer preview afterall
[18:13] <jmg_> Thanks mhall119, was wondering the same thing
[18:13] <soeca> ok thank you....but in Restore Android the first point is: "Recall the version that was installed before flashing. " how can i recall the version?there is a terminal command??
[18:13] <mcp_> Anyone else getting Unsupported Devices with ParanoidAndroid for Nexus7
[18:13] <lallenlowe> nygfan760: it's better to just boot ubuntu from a usb stick or cd and run commands from there
[18:13] <Tribaal> stylemistake: it's a tech preview - it's not intended to be used as is. Many apps are placeholders
[18:13] <OpException> So this installs CWM recovery! Thats good to know.
[18:14] <rmcsc> Thanks mhall119, sam1am, Tribaal, and liecno.
[18:14] <abogdan> developers, please, add wikipedia app as native outofthebox app. I think would be a good idea, no?
[18:14] <ingar159> is there a way to open an terminal on ubuntu phone
[18:14] <VVlasy> Yeah I know, I am aware.
[18:14] <aliendude5300> That's a shame.... the only bare metal hardware I have that I don't care about is my old nook color, which is running Jelly Bean, but that's not compatible with the Ubuntu ROMS
[18:14] <sam1am> rmcsc: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38292312
[18:14] <nygfan760> I guess, but I have all the images, can I just fastboot flash them?
[18:14] <liecno> soeca: look on your sheet of paper, there is your build number you wrote down!
[18:14] <rmcsc> sam1am: Been told it needs to be Ubuntu-derived. I'm guessing that leaves out CentOS, which I have installed already?
[18:14] <stylemistake> Tribaal: yes, they are. So, flashing back an android. But it was cool :)
[18:14] <rmcsc> Thanks sam1am
[18:15] <abogdan> developers, please, add wikipedia app as native outofthebox app. I think would be a good idea, no?
[18:15] <krs360> there's no terminal on this?
[18:15] <lantizia> OK, I'll re-word my question... Theoretically how might someone make a way of getting Android and Ubuntu dual booting on a Nexus 4?
[18:15] <guimendes> is there any way to download/build a rootfs of ubuntu touch, for porting to other devices?
[18:15] <mrkrstphr1> anyone get secured wifi working?
[18:15] <mhall119> krs360: not yet, the terminal app is being written
[18:15] <stylemistake> and wait a second... my nexus 4 is HOT
[18:15] <aliendude5300> are all of the ubuntu tablet images open source, so that we can add support for devices other than the nexus line?
[18:15] <Travel> definitely need an imap client similar to k9
[18:15] <krs360> mhall119:  ok cool, that's handy to know
[18:15] <jounih> aliendude5300: yes
[18:15] <OpException> I used Linux Mint to install. But yes, needs ubuntu derived to install
[18:15] <sudi> ok unuseable....the windows devpreview was useable this isn't
[18:15] <mhall119> Travel: email client is being worked on
[18:16] <rmcsc> Thanks OpException.
[18:16] <nexus7user> keyboar is a little small for nex7
[18:16] <shrik> mrkrstphr1: works fine for me, that's the problem? (WPA2)
[18:16] <Travel> thanks mhall119, thats great to know
[18:16] <rmcsc> What's the web browser? Firefox?
[18:16] <krs360> and there's deff no way to remove the existing data easily?
[18:16] <mhall119> if anybody wants to get involved writing these core apps, pleas visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps
[18:16] <ajalkane> Seems like there's some installation excitement in the channel
[18:16] <MostHated> cwm's backup is a full system image that can be reflashed back to the exact way the phone was before right?
[18:16] <Kopik> any2 had a problem while pushing zip to nexus 7
[18:16] <mhall119> rmcsc: no, something webkit
 i had no problem with wifi on my nexus 4
[18:16] <Kopik> mine's taking ages
[18:16] <MostHated> not just data and apps?
[18:16] <Travel> and getting mobile data to work is also a big requirement
[18:16] <jounih> rmcsc: custom ubrowser based on webkit
[18:16] <stylemistake> i have complaints about keyboard, though
[18:16] <aliendude5300> where can I find the source code? Trying to get something working on an Android device would be a fun weekend or two project
[18:16] <gegner> where can i find the zip?
[18:16] <mhall119> Kopik: took about 10 minutes for me
[18:17] <jounih> stylemistake: what device you using?
[18:17] <lydgate> should i install it on nexus 4 or nexus 7?
[18:17] <liecno> stylemistake: yes, the keyboard is a bit sluggy
[18:17] <gegner> nexus 7
[18:17] <mhall119> gegner: you should use the phablet-flash tool instead of getting the zips
[18:17] <stylemistake> it has to be bigger and with more contrasted colors
[18:17] <lydgate> ok
[18:17] <stylemistake> jounih: nexus4
[18:17] <aliendude5300> Is there a tablet specific repository, or is it in the mainline Ubuntu repos?
[18:17] <rmcsc> stylemistake: That phone is indeed hot. But I do know what you mean. Is there any way to check running processes?
[18:17] <jbooth> As developer, it isn't reassuring to have an app work on qmlscene on my desktop, but not on the phone.
[18:17] <fluxim> is a live update possible, like android OTA, or do i have to flash every time? cause the manual sounds like that..
[18:17] <jounih> stylemistake: yeah keys are a bit hard to hit right now. I think that's being worked on
[18:18] <stylemistake> rmcsc: not yet. also, there's no terminal app
[18:18] <mhall119> jbooth: please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes#Ubuntu_SDK_Alpha
[18:18] <rmcsc> Aye, sam1am, that answers far too many questions. Retaining recovery is perfect.
[18:18] <bhoj> how do you close the running apps ? I miss the back button :( ... Browser keeps redirecting to itunes stuff ...
[18:18] <rmcsc> stylemistake: I see.
[18:18] <Gilligan94> HI, does anyone know when i can find the release schedule for Ubuntu touch?
[18:18] <Jamper91> Hello
[18:18] <stylemistake> console would be handy for developers, i think
[18:18] <Jamper91> i have a problem, somebody can help me?
[18:18] <sam1am> rmcsc: Yea I'm just gonna do a nandroid and flash, check it out, and do a nandroid back to where I was. At least that's my plan…
[18:18] <iBelieve> How soon until an emulator is available?
[18:18] <rmcsc> Ubuntu touch. I had forgotten about that.
[18:18] <mhall119> Gilligan94: there is no release schedule atm
[18:19] <sam1am> Jamper91: Tell us your problem and if someone can help they will.
[18:19] <mhall119> Gilligan94: the only scheduled release was today's
[18:19] <stylemistake> and any ways to kill an app?
[18:19] <mhall119> iBelieve: no time-frame yet, sorry
[18:19] <guimendes> how can I get a rootfs or a tar for porting it to other devices?
[18:19] <plars> bhoj: if it's the one you're in, you can drag up from the bottom and release when you are on the icon that comes up that looks like a magnifying glass, then press the X to close
[18:19] <Gilligan94> Thanks
[18:19] <liecno> stylemistake: swipe from bottom to the top, press the X
[18:19] <iBelieve> mhall119, okay, thanks!
[18:19] <jounih> stylemistake: you can kill from the HUD, x icon
[18:19] <mhall119> guimendes: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/quantal/mwc-demo/
[18:19] <Darkwing> For those of you wanting to flash on windows listen up.
[18:19] <Jamper91> when i used this comand "sudo apt-get install phablet-tools android-tools-adb android-tools-fastboot" the console say "404  Not Found"
[18:19] <guimendes> thanks mhall119
[18:19] <mhall119> np
[18:19] <krs360> hmm..  i took note of the end of the build name, apparently thats not important
[18:19] <superborkado> Any idea how we can make this work for toro/cdma?
[18:20] <stylemistake> jounih: that works)))
[18:20] <krs360> so will prob be unable to flash back to droid even if i wanted to
[18:20] <fairct> with ya on that, superborkado
[18:20] <dotvezz> I'm here for toro/cdma as well. I'm curious about what the technical limitations are.
[18:20] <stylemistake> jounih: i thought first that button was a placeholder, too)
[18:21] <seven_> anyone else flahed to their n7 and cant see the tablet part?
[18:21] <dotvezz> If it's something as easy as using fastboot to flash cdma radios, then i'd be happy. But that's most likely not the case.
[18:21] <stylemistake> i definitely like a carousel of contacts
[18:21] <mhall119> dotvezz: superborkado: you'll need to find some XDA hackers or something
[18:21] <bhoj> plars, thanks. experiencing some random hang on my galaxy nexus.. I can bear that.
[18:21] <nexus7user> very unpolished, but thats what your going for as an ubuntu enthusiast
[18:21] <Gilligan94> can anyone shed light on the reasoning for a developer preview and not a alpha/beta? will there be and alpha/beta cycle? will ubuntu desktop move away from alpha/beta and start using dev previews?
[18:21] <Darkwing> goto http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/quantal/mwc-demo/ and download your device.zip and the big quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip   . Open your custom recovery and flash the device zip, then the armfs zip. reboot.
[18:21] <stylemistake> and calculator is not working
[18:21] <mhall119> seven_: landscape mode isn't available on the N7 yet
[18:21] <Darkwing> This worked for N7
[18:21] <mhall119> or portrait mode on the N10
[18:21] <plars> bhoj: there are known problems if you have lots of apps open at once right now, some memory optimization still needs to be done
[18:21] <kknikolas> how to open terminal or close app?
[18:21] <crypticmofo> man the verizon galaxys s3 needs ubuntu
[18:21] <crypticmofo> :P
[18:22] <sam1am> Jamper91: Your computer doesn't have apt-get installed
[18:22] <Gilligan94> can anyone shed light on the reasoning for a developer preview and not a alpha/beta? will there be and alpha/beta cycle? will ubuntu desktop move away from alpha/beta and start using dev previews?
[18:22] <ingar159> ist there a settings app ?
[18:22] <ZING_> hey hey
[18:22] <RJ_> Can anyone tell me if reverting back to android will be easy or is it a challange
[18:22] <Guest20131> can install on windows surface ? rt
[18:22] <VikenEndo> guys how do i install ubuntu for nexus 7 on the mac?
[18:22] <om26er> kknikolas, volume down to close app
[18:22] <plars> kknikolas: drag up from the bottom, release on the the ocon that comes up, select the X
[18:22] <sam1am> Jamper91: Do a google search for installing apt-get on your OS, or if you have a custom recovery just flash from there.
[18:22] <mhall119> Gilligan94: there will be future releases, there just isn't a schedule
[18:22] <fluxim> ok error with installation because the screen locked while pushing the file. now phone isnt booting, now adb connection any more, installation not possible, thoughts?
[18:22] <plars> om26er: no, that doesn't do it
[18:22] <bhoj> plars, thanks for the tip. its much better having one app running at a time. Will play with it.
[18:22] <dotvezz> @Gilligan94, I'm pretty sure that it's a dev preview in this case because its main purpose is to let developers get their hands on it and make software for it
[18:22] <meetingology> dotvezz: Error: "Gilligan94," is not a valid command.
[18:22] <om26er> Guest20131, no
[18:22] <BionicARM> Darkwing, thats exactly what i needed to know thanks very much!
[18:22] <kknikolas> om26er: ty
[18:22] <krs360> anyone in the uk with an unflashed google nexus?
[18:22] <ogra_> RJ_, you can just flash the factory image
[18:22] <Guest20131> ok
[18:22] <kknikolas> plars: ty
[18:22] <superborkado> Do we know if any XDA folks are working on the toro version yet?
[18:22] <stylemistake> TOO MUCH INFORMATION
[18:22] <krs360> need the build id of it so i can restore android
[18:22] <Darkwing> flashing the zips will allow you to keep a custom recovery
[18:22] <ZING_> hows ubuntu doing so far on the nexus?
[18:23] <RJ_> thanks
[18:23] <Darkwing> So, if you do a nandroid backup you can reflash that
[18:23] <om26er> plars, ah, sorry it seems i didn't try the recent builds. now it closes from the HUD ?
[18:23] <stylemistake> ZING_: pretty good
[18:23] <kibaa12> was freaking out then realised i missed the armhf.zip flashing it on my win 8 machine heh
[18:23] <mhall119> superborkado: I don't know, you'll have to ask them
[18:23] <fairct> fluxim: try booting into recovery by holding down hardware keys?
[18:23] <RJ_> @ogra thanks!
[18:23] <meetingology> RJ_: Error: "ogra" is not a valid command.
[18:23] <stylemistake> ZING_: uninstalling it already :)
[18:23] <VikenEndo> mac installation guide please?
[18:23] <tw___> Restore Android is easy.Just flash the factory image.
[18:23] <ZING_> worst installing yet or wait? I'm about to buy a nexus for $100 to try it out
[18:23] <Darkwing> and you can go back and forth via nandroid.
[18:23] <nexus7user> nice having contacts and text messages righ off the bat on my nexus 7
[18:23] <ZING_> worth^
[18:23] <krs360> tw___: yeah i took note of the end of the build name but that seems unimportant
[18:23] <nexus7user> cant call back or reply oh well lol
[18:24] <dr01d> anyone else not able to add the Ubuntu Touch PPA?
[18:24] <soeca> tell me one more thing: if I want restore my AOKP rom I must download from xda, put in my nexus e flash from CWM?? is it correct???
[18:24] <sergiusens> VikenEndo: do you have a way to flash recovery images?
[18:24] <om26er> VikenEndo, mac installation guide is the same as windows i would say just need to install the android sdk and drivers for fastboot to work
[18:24] <stylemistake> ZING_: not yet. It could be worth it, if you are a developer, and this phone is not your main phone
[18:24] <Anthrax132> is that normal that i have a weird contact list and messages?
[18:24] <gsxarakiri> How to install on GNex without Ubunto OS on Pc - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2078691
[18:24] <nexus7user> ZING,only for fun right now
[18:24] <kknikolas> Anthrax132: yes
[18:24] <fluxim> i tried that, phablet-flash -f end with /sbin/sh: getprop : not found unsupported device, but adb shows device...help?
[18:24] <liecno> Anthrax132: yes, test data...
[18:24] <sergiusens> Anthrax132: yes, it's in the release notes
[18:24] <dat_step3> when i enter the command to unlock i get "comman not found" any suggestions?
[18:24] <mhall119> gsxarakiri: nice, thanks
[18:24] <OpException> Don't open notes and then touch on the Networks icon at the top. N4 gets stuck.
[18:24] <VikenEndo> although when i skip all the debugging tutorial and go straight to phablet-flash command it doesnt work
[18:24] <Anthrax132> Ah, ok,thanks, must have missed that line
[18:24] <sergiusens> fluxim: what device?
[18:25] <ZING_> i want to learn and become a developer. If this will allow me to atleast make and receive phone calls, then i should be fine until a more stable relase comes out
[18:25] <stylemistake> OpException: same thing.
[18:25] <tw___> @krs360 The same to me,the build number looks like nothing.
[18:25] <meetingology> tw___: Error: "krs360" is not a valid command.
[18:25] <dat_step3> the command "sudo fastbook oem unlock" doesn
[18:25] <dat_step3> 'work for me
[18:25] <om26er> dat_step3, fastboot not fastbook
[18:25] <OpException> I kept swiping from the left and eventually the keyboard went away and the dock thing came back.
[18:25] <fluxim> galaxy nexus maguro (german gsm)
[18:25] <tw___> How to reply someone?
[18:25] <dr01d> Ubuntu Touch PPA listed in instructions not working for me
[18:25] <iDoiStuff> haha
[18:25] <dat_step3> whoops
[18:25] <renkinao> hi
[18:25] <om26er> dat_step3, what does sudo fastboot devices tell you ?
[18:25] <dat_step3> that's what i have
[18:25] <dat_step3> that was a typo
[18:25] <mhall119> dr01d: what version of Ubuntu do you have?
[18:25] <stylemistake> ZING_: I don't think this release is good for texting and calling...
[18:26] <VikenEndo> @dr01d me neither
[18:26] <meetingology> VikenEndo: Error: "dr01d" is not a valid command.
[18:26] <dr01d> 12.10
[18:26] <iDoiStuff> make sure you type EVERYTHING right. I misplaced a few hypens in it.
[18:26] <ZING_> hmm i might wait then
[18:26] <fairct> for those looking for toro: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38294870&postcount=1315
[18:26] <fluxim> before i startet, because it detected the device, so its possible, but there is maybe i bug in the install routine, cause it stucks
[18:26] <mhall119> dr01d: what error does it give?
[18:26] <stylemistake> ZING_: it can call/text, but very limited. No contacts at this time
[18:26] <dr01d> Cannot access PPA
[18:26] <SoulShadow> shits broke yo
[18:26] <dr01d> copy / paste from web page
[18:26] <SoulShadow> why the hell is it using yaffs over ext
[18:26] <iDoiStuff> sudo fastboot devices tells you which devices are connected and in fast boot.
[18:26] <ZING_> damn... sounds like this isnt worth trying yet
[18:26] <dr01d> trying to hit directly gives a 404
[18:26] <fluxim> i have clockworkMod, can it with cwm?
[18:27] <dat_step3> it return the error "fastboot: command not found"
[18:27] <mhall119> SoulShadow: it's a developer preview, of course stuff is broken
[18:27] <iDoiStuff> fluxim, no
[18:27] <Aotom> Hello all
[18:27] <SoulShadow> fluxim: it's fastboot
[18:27] <Zarmaka> Heya
[18:27] <nexus7user> camera not working on nex7
[18:27] <iDoiStuff> install fastboot and adb.
[18:27] <mhall119> nexus7user: I noticed that too
[18:27] <om26er> iDoiStuff, the question was to what is fastboot devices returning for him :)
[18:27] <Aotom> Anyone else find that the "," key actually returns a slash?
[18:27] <VikenEndo> guys mac wont install
[18:27] <iDoiStuff> oh, sorry om26er
[18:27] <stylemistake> Kevin Wright, my greetings
[18:27] <rmcsc> dat_step3: honest mistake :P
[18:27] <clbsfg> my nexus should be unlocked bootloader before do phablet-flash ?
[18:27] <odb36> how to change and install clock app...please help here - http://www.uposforum.com/thread-8.html
[18:27] <kknikolas> how to copy own music on the device?
[18:27] <stylemistake> Nick Tait, nice photo :)
[18:27] <jbooth> mhall119: Been there done that. That isn't the issue. I can get the app up with a ctrl-F12 deployment, but things that work on the desktop like pausing, changing playbackrate of audio, then restarting don't work on the phone.
[18:27] <sergiusens> VikenEndo: I asked you if you had a way to flash from recovery :-)
[18:27] <dat_step3> i'm on linux mint if that helps
[18:28] <VikenEndo> what do you mean?
[18:28] <VikenEndo> i have stock 4.2.2
[18:28] <mhall119> jbooth: can you file bugs against ubuntu-ui-toolkit on Launchpad?
[18:28] <mhall119> please
[18:28] <rmcsc> clbsfg: Yes, the bootloader should be unlocked before installing any custom operating system; Ubuntu in this case,.
[18:28] <mhall119> so we can track them and get them fixed
[18:28] <iDoiStuff> how large is the ubuntu phone OS? I am currently installing it, and it's at 40%.
[18:28] <vladikoff> is there a way to take a screenshot? via ADB ?
[18:28] <fairct> clbsfg: yeah, unlock your bootloader
[18:28] <mhall119> vladikoff: via adb, yes
[18:28] <sergiusens> VikenEndo: if you can flash from recovery images, you just need to download two files
[18:28] <vladikoff> mhall119, thanks :)
[18:28] <mhall119> vladikoff: if you have the SDK installed, you can do it from QtCretor
[18:28] <fairct> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[18:28] <jbooth> mhall119: Will look into it after lunch :-)
[18:28] <Zarmaka> Where can I find the settings? Can't find it for the life of me
[18:29] <sergiusens> vladikoff: adb shell screencap /sdcard/somfile.png
[18:29] <mhall119> Zarmaka: swipe down from the top
[18:29] <VikenEndo> ok but i have stock recovery
[18:29] <VikenEndo> cant i use sdk on mac
[18:29] <stylemistake> oh shi~
[18:29] <mhall119> VikenEndo: not yet, no
[18:29] <stylemistake> phone is not turning on
[18:29] <rmcsc> iDoiStuff: It's 481MB for base install + ~81-113MB for the device-specific files.
[18:29] <fluxim> i tried to install via fastboot, but the installation stoped because the screen logged, while pushing the files. and now i'm in recovery mode, adb sees device but phablet-flash -b stops with this error: /sbin/sh: getprop: not found unsupported device......thoughts?
[18:29] <iDoiStuff> thanks rmcsc!
[18:29] <soeca> tell me one more thing: if I want restore my AOKP rom I must download from xda, put in my nexus e flash from CWM?? is it correct???
[18:29] <om26er> VikenEndo, yeah sdk should work on Mac, ofcourse it does\
[18:29] <stylemistake> HELP
[18:29] <sergiusens> fluxim: what device?
[18:29] <tw___> Can anybody post a screenshot of his phone here?
[18:30] <clbsfg> i totally downloaded all files but i could not flash on my nexus 4
[18:30] <Zarmaka> mhall119, I've found those, but more in-dept for 3G connections and stuff? It wont connect to 3g for me :(
[18:30] <ryansipes> Has anyone had any luck changing the time zone?
[18:30] <sergiusens> fluxim: did you go to recovery on your own?
[18:30] <rmcsc> iDoiStuff: What device so you have?
[18:30] <ryansipes> I have tried what the guide said to do
[18:30] <dat_step3> i'm trying to unlock my device and the fastboot isn't working for me either
[18:30] <fluxim> galaxy nexus maguro.....before the installation started, so the detect was ok before
[18:30] <ryansipes> But it doesn't result in the change.
[18:30] <iDoiStuff> rmcsc: nexus 4, why?
[18:30] <fluxim> yes, with hardware keys
[18:30] <dr01d> mhall119: fixed, was missing the "s" at the end of "tools"
[18:30] <stylemistake> I thought my phone is bricked
[18:30] <om26er> soeca, i had cyanogenmod installed on the device, then i flash the ubuntu touch on it, when i had to get back to my phone i again flash the cyanogenmod zip and everything was back to normal nothing changed, not even a single thing
[18:30] <dr01d> doh
[18:31] <sergiusens> fluxim: try and restart adb and see if that helps... not sure where it failed, can you pastebin full logs
[18:31] <sergiusens> ?
[18:31] <p4tri0t> can i restore my current custom rom with run ./flash-all.sh
[18:31] <stylemistake> Sometimes screen won't turn on
[18:31] <om26er> stylemistake, nexus phones are pretty difficult to brick in my testing unless you toy with the bootloader
[18:31] <soeca> thank's a lot!!!
[18:31] <tw___> reply<stylemistake> QAQ...
[18:31] <sergiusens> p4tri0t: yes you can... just need to reboot into the bootloader
[18:31] <rmcsc> iDoiStuff: Your install should be around 600MB.
[18:31] <SpeEn> Hello, does the new ubuntu tablet os work on samsung galaxy tab 2?
[18:31] <om26er> p4tri0t, no that will install the stock rom
[18:31] <sergiusens> om26er: you can erase the bootloader :-)
[18:32] <mhall119> SpeEn: not yet, but hopefully some community hackers will port it
  not yet
[18:32] <SpeEn> cool
[18:32] <sergiusens> p4tri0t: oh, custom, not stock
[18:32] <iDoiStuff> rmcsc: sounds good! I mean, not good, because it's going to take way longer to get into the wonderful OS, but I guess that's better than larger!
[18:32] <p4tri0t> is there a way to make it restore a nandroid flash for example
[18:32] <tilal6991> If anyone wants to discuss porting ubuntu - please switch over to ubuntu-on-or
[18:32] <tilal6991> * ait
[18:32] <tilal6991> * air
[18:33] <napster> Where is the code hosted?
[18:33] <p4tri0t> nandroid backup.  sorry
[18:33] <om26er> sergiusens, but that is the only dangerous part which could if mistaken could hard brick the phone, atleast that's what i thought
[18:33] <om26er> p4tri0t, yeah that should work
[18:33] <fluxim> sergiusens: where do i find the logs?
[18:33] <soeca> i tothought that ubuntu erase my CWM recovery!!! thank's!!
[18:33] <iDoiStuff> so they will be releasing daily updates?
[18:33] <music> hello there, i flashed my nexus, but how can i update my installation to the newest build?
[18:33] <Mengine> Articx: I got further now
[18:33] <plars> p4tri0t: I haven't tried it myself, but http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2078691 and others are reporting this should work.  make sure your nandroid backup is saved to /sdcard/ and if you're ultra-paranoid, copy it off first just to be sure
[18:33] <jounih> iDoiStuff: yes
[18:33] <rmcsc> ubuntuphonebrick <--- that nickname doesn't sound so good
[18:33] <nexus7user> your looking at it
[18:33] <Pattehh> Any way I can install this running Windows? I have Ubuntu in dual boot and as a virtual machine but can't reboot atm
[18:33] <ogra_> there will be daily builds soon
[18:33] <ubuntuphonebrick> nope =(
[18:34] <Mengine> Articx: its now rebooting to ubuntu
[18:34] <njosh> can I remove the default message and contacts ?
[18:34] <ubuntuphonebrick> phone's stuck on black screen for over 5 mins after flashing
[18:34] <rmcsc> ubuntuphonebrick: What happened? What device?
[18:34] <Zarmaka> Anyone had any problems connecting to 3G, then managed to fix it?
[18:34] <p4tri0t> ok thanks a lot
[18:34] <om26er> ubuntuphonebrick, try rebooting ?
[18:34] <ubuntuphonebrick> i was told not to restart it cuz it might be initializing...
[18:34] <clbsfg> anybody who can explain to me know how to flash it ? i have download all files
[18:35] <ubuntuphonebrick> just popped in here to see what others had to say...
[18:35] <mhall119> clbsfg: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install has instructions
[18:35] <dat_step3> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[18:35] <fairct> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[18:35] <dat_step3> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[18:35] <dat_step3> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[18:35] <dat_step3> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[18:35] <fairct> lol
[18:35] <njosh> fyi, installing through vm works fine.
[18:35] <kknikolas> how to connect phone to ubuntu?
[18:35] <dat_step3> thanks njosh
[18:35] <odb36> how to install ubuntu from Windows computer - http://www.uposforum.com/thread-9.html
[18:35] <plars> Zarmaka: no mobile data just yet, but calling works if you have gsm
[18:35] <dat_step3> i might give that a whirl
[18:35] <renkinao> My nexus7 boot on ubuntu but to reaction when i touch my tablet? someone have the same trouble ?
[18:35] <plars> Zarmaka: and wifi for data
[18:36] <soeca> He say to me:"Unsupported device, autodetect fails device"
[18:36] <ndec> ogra_: rsalveti: hi. first: good job... ;-) now, where can i look to understand how you have put the ubuntu graphic stack on these devices, and on the android blobs?
[18:36] <thexyz> oh, great, it replaced my TWRP with cwm recovery ><
[18:36] <rmcsc> ubuntuphonebrick: If it's taking so long I doubt it's initializing, Give it some more time, though, before rebooting, just to make sure.
[18:36] <nexus7user> it shuts down faster then a sculded dog
[18:36] <dat_step3> is anyone else using linux mint to try this? i'm getting stuck at unlocking my nexus 7.
[18:36] <stellarhopper__> Guys, is there a way to dual boot this with say CM10?
 thanks
[18:36] <stylemistake> nexus7user: i didn't manage to shut it down)))
[18:36] <David___> odb36: Can you tell me what i'm must be doing, i'm german my english is not sooo god, i've downloaded ubuntu on vmware player and now?
[18:36] <njosh> soeca you need to switch back to stock
[18:36] <om26er> dat_step3, whats the problem ?
[18:37] <om26er> stellarhopper__, no there is not
[18:37] <dat_step3> sudo fastboot oem unlock command isn't working for me
[18:37] <soeca> ok
[18:37] <om26er> dat_step3, try to power off the phone, again start the bootloader mode, connect the data cable and try again
[18:37] <cy__> do i need to go through the flash process in order to download the binaries?
[18:37] <plars> dat_step3: are you booted into fastboot?
[18:37] <dat_step3> wilco
[18:38] <Mengine> should it hang for a while on the loginscreen? #nexus7
[18:38] <om26er> cy__, you can download without flashing
[18:38] <Zarmaka> It's not connecting to GSM
 hi david, my german is worst in the world :D
[18:38] <om26er> cy__, here http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/quantal/mwc-demo/
[18:38] <sergiusens> cy__: no you can download
[18:38] <dat_step3> how do you do that?
[18:38] <odb36> how can i help you
[18:38] <Zarmaka> plars: its not connecting to GSM
[18:38] <cy__> omg thanks...cuz it does not have the links on the webpage at all
[18:38] <montdouan> GSM dos not work here. Someone else experimenting the same issue?
[18:38] <sergiusens> cy__: you don't even need fastboot if you can fully deploy for recovery, either sideload or copying to sdcard
[18:38] <David___> odb36: tell me in exact parts what to do
[18:38] <dat_step3> plars, how do i boot into fastboot?
[18:39] <ingar159> if gms is not working try to remove your pin code
[18:39] <plars> Zarmaka: what are you basing that on? you can't send/receive calls?
[18:39] <om26er> dat_step3, power off, hold volume up and volume down keys, while holding them power on the phone. you will see the bootloader mode
[18:39] <fairct> dat_step3: there are hardware keys you can hold down normally to do that
[18:39] <Zarmaka> plars: Yes
[18:39] <dat_step3> ah i did that
[18:39] <dat_step3> i've booted into that already
[18:39] <odb36> try to load the image
[18:39] <Zarmaka> ingar159: How and where?
[18:39] <VikenEndo> ok then where do i download the two files from and how do i proceed on a custom recovery?
[18:39] <montdouan> PIN code is never asked to me when I start the machine. very strange
[18:39] <samurai> is exist a flashable version (via recovery) of Ubuntu Phone for Galaxy Nexus (maguro)?
[18:39] <om26er> dat_step3, now fastboot oem unlock will work
[18:39] <odb36> there should be button named "Try ubuntu"
[18:39] <dat_step3> the command "sudo fastboot oem unlock" returns the error "command not found"
[18:39] <renkinao> I can't unlock my nexus7 boot on ubuntu ?! wtf ?
[18:40] <odb36> then follow these instructions - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
 in android or on another phone
[18:40] <VikenEndo> but i cant add the repos to the whichever file i need to
[18:40] <plars> dat_step3: actually, iirc you need to just hold volume-down when turning the device on, but I don't have a nexus7 in front of me at the moment
[18:40] <om26er> VikenEndo, first unlock the bootloader then paste the files since unlocking the bootloader erases everything on the phone
[18:40] <weisso5> #nexus7 is hanging on "D/SensorService(  130): nuSensorService thread starting..." any suggestions?
[18:40] <Zarmaka> ingar159: Nowhere to do it from Ubuntu? I did the full remove thingy
[18:40] <dat_step3> ok so fastboot is a device thing. i understand that now. i'm already in that. the command for that doesn't work for me....
[18:40] <om26er> dat_step3, you don't have fastboot installed
[18:40] <David___> odb36: i doesn't really understand the instruction and how i can flash the image?
[18:40] <om26er> dat_step3, sudo apt-get install android-tools-fastboot
[18:40] <gaurav_> how to install through windows os
[18:41] <gaurav_> ?
[18:41] <nexus7user> youtube.com not too slick, loading loading loading
 i havent seen any place or a settings app
[18:41] <opaijavai> anyone has already try it on nexus 7? how it is?
[18:41] <dat_step3> i've already gone through step one on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[18:41] <Guest25368> how to install through windows os
[18:41] <dat_step3> so i have it installed and updated
[18:41] <helicopter88> can anyone give me a tip? I just built an ubuntu package,but it's only 41 mb,what could be missing?
[18:41] <Guest25368> pls provide me the link
[18:41] <sergiusens> samurai: yes
[18:41] <odb36> have you used ubuntu or other linux OS before?
[18:41] <njosh> can someone help me configure network
[18:42] <Drooid> I've got a problem with my Nexus 7
[18:42] <nexus7user> opaijavai: it would be a dubious understatement to refer to it as unpolished
[18:42] <David___> odb36: nothing, i am the first time on ubuntu to install it ;D
[18:42] <dat_step3> what's the problem drooid?
[18:42] <ddadon> Hey
 wifi or gsm
[18:42] <odb36> it will be very hard then
[18:42] <njosh> gsm
[18:42] <noxx> how do you close apps??
[18:42] <Drooid> The keyboard won't go away after I tried to login to gmail
[18:42] <sergiusens> samurai: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/quantal/mwc-demo/quantal-preinstalled-armel+maguro.zip and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/quantal/mwc-demo/quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip
[18:42] <ddadon> Gsm does'nt work in france
[18:42] <sam1am> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IohrSmurvqg&feature=player_embedded
[18:42] <nexus7user> how do i update on nex7?
[18:42] <plars> noxx: drag up from the bottom, release your finger on the icon that comes up, this brings up the HUD. Then press the X on that screen
[18:42] <Drooid> oh, I scrolled to the search page and back to the home, and it's gone
 i would recomend you tring to remove your pin code
[18:43] <renkinao> dat_step3
[18:43] <ddadon> I've install ubuntu on my Galaxy Nexus, and Gsm doesn't work in france, somebody have an idea ?
[18:43] <noxx> Thanks
[18:43] <dat_step3> yes?
[18:43] <njosh> how do i do that
[18:43] <opaijavai> so, by now  is better stay with android on n7, and wait a few more weeks?
[18:43] <popey> mhall119: it's been nearly 3 hours, has someone made a terminal app yet? ☺
[18:43] <Drooid> But, I've got all of the demo things, like texts (lol on a tablet), should they be there after installing?
[18:43] <renkinao> dad_step, how you unlock the lock screen ? :'(
[18:43] <dat_step3> renkinao
[18:43] <chilllaaah> hi 1 question when i wanna deploy the image to my nexus 4, do i need internet this time to download the image? cause my nexus 4 is my internet connection actually
[18:43] <David___> odb36: do you have skype?
[18:43] <jounih> opaijavai: unless you want to start developing apps, yes
[18:43] <plars> popey: of course, it's 'adb shell' :)
[18:43] <montdouan> same probkem ddadon, but from belgium
[18:44] <popey> heh
 there are 2 binaries Galaxy Nexus 	  maguro 	  takju or yakju
[18:44] <ddadon> montdouan: Francophone ?
 i dont kown og to do that in ubuntu but if you have another cell phon you can use that
[18:44] <tymonn> is it normal that the ubuntuOS is stuck like at 80%?
[18:44] <jounih> this release is really aimed for people who want to start writing apps and contributing to development
[18:44] <montdouan> ddadon: oui
[18:44] <Aaronnkk> im installing on a nexus 4, and after issuing the phablet-flash -b command its stalling when pushing autodeploy.zip, I thought it might be a memory issue, so i erased the majority of data on the phone and retried but still holding at the same command, has anyone else experienced this?
[18:44] <ddadon> AH super
[18:44] <CaseyB> I am trying to install Ubuntu Phone from my work mac.  Is there a way to get the phablet-tools outside of apt?
[18:44] <fairct> chilllaaah: personally I wouldn't recommend risking losing your internet to try this...
[18:44] <odb36> yes
[18:44] <renkinao> dat_step3 my N7 boot on ubuntu, but i can't unlock the lock screen, an idea ?
[18:44] <ddadon> Donc oui je pense que c'est un probleme de Bande de frequence
[18:44] <opaijavai> ok, i've bought an n7 today for ubuntu. at least the wifi can be shoutdown?
[18:44] <odb36> odb_88
[18:45] <odb36> find me
[18:45] <fairct> CaseyB: you can flash the zips through custom recovery
[18:45] <tymonn> is it normal that the ubuntuOS is stuck like at 80%?
[18:45] <Sephiroth_> One question, is there GSM support on the Galaxy Nexus? For calls and sms i mean. I can't get a signal.
[18:45] <ddadon> montdouan: Je pense que c'est un probleme de Bande de frequence
[18:45] <tymonn> is it normal that the ubuntuOS is stuck like at 80%?
[18:45] <Zarmaka> it downloads before flashing though, so it should be done downloading by the time your phone goes off the grid
[18:45] <om26er> CaseyB, try searching the internet for how to unlock galaxy nexus on mac
[18:45] <montdouan> ddadon: en ce qui me concerne, a aucun moment il ne me demande le code PIN de ma carte SIM
[18:45] <stylemistake> tymonn: where?
[18:45] <ddadon> montdouan: On a pas les meme qu'aux US donc...
[18:45] <opaijavai> i read that is one of the issues, the wifi can't be shoutdown is always on ?
[18:45] <ianblenke> hooray, it works!
[18:45] <David___> odb36: can we chat there?
[18:45] <Zarmaka> Anyway to type in or remove PIN code in Ubuntu?
[18:45] <cy__> thanks guys for your help
[18:45] <tymonn> stylemistake: after the deploy
[18:45] <David___> odb36: and you can tell me step by step?
[18:45] <om26er> opaijavai, yeah, read that as well
[18:45] <ddadon> montdouan: Je vais essayer d'enlever le pin de ma sim pour voir
[18:46] <ddadon> montdouan: Je test et je te tien au courant ! :)
[18:46] <kanazky> hey
[18:46] <stylemistake> tymonn: in recovery?
[18:46] <odb36> yes
[18:46] <napster> How can I unlock the screen? :)
[18:46] <kanazky> Has anyone got Ubuntu Touch to work on the Samsung Galaxy S3?
[18:46] <montdouan> ddaon: merci
[18:46] <dat_step3> renkinao i'm still trying to get ubuntu on my nexus 7. i'm stuck in the unlocking process.
[18:46] <plars> napster: drag from the right side of the screen to the left
[18:46] <napster> kanazky: No S3 images so far
[18:46] <tymonn> stylemistake: yes there is an android with something spinning on his belly and the loading bar is stuck like at 80%
[18:46] <David___> odb36: please add me nickname is :    daavidyoo   from Germany
[18:46] <napster> plars: ah thanks
[18:46] <renkinao> dat_step3 it's work ! you need some help ?
[18:46] <kanazky> napster: thanks
[18:46] <toby> hi
[18:46] <David___> odb36: without 'from Germany' ;D
[18:46] <stylemistake> tymonn: phone?
[18:47] <stylemistake> model
[18:47] <Zarmaka> Anyway to type in or remove PIN code in Ubuntu?
[18:47] <tymonn> gnexus gsm
[18:47] <tymonn> stylemistake: gnexus gsm
[18:47] <iDoiStuff> lol, android and belly. that sounds adorable.
[18:47] <noxx> how do insert you pin number? I can't connect to my operator to make calls :(
[18:47] <dat_step3> renkinao i do. question, after i enter the "sudo fastboot oem unlock" what do i do on the device?
[18:47] <stylemistake> tymonn: this is not good afaik
[18:47] <toby> i have a probleme to update repository launchpad
[18:47] <ianblenke> "People Recently in Touch"... that seems like a bit of a privacy concern.
[18:47] <toby> some ideas?
[18:47] <thexyz> tymonn: that's ok, keep waiting
[18:47] <stylemistake> try rebooting into bootloader
[18:47] <dat_step3> renkinao: it's currently sitting on the < waiting for device >
[18:47] <lallenlowe> is there a way to get to a terminal???
[18:47] <tymonn> thexyz: 10min now
[18:48] <thexyz> tymonn: it took ~10-15 minutes for me
[18:48] <Articx> for the folks that still have problem with "adbd cannot run as root in production builds" that i had, an Lock/Unlock from adb did fix it for me. Now everything works like it should :)
[18:48] <tymonn> thexyz: did yours stuck like at 80?
[18:48] <toby> hi all, i need help
[18:48] <ianblenke> lallenlowe: adb shell ?
[18:48] <lallenlowe> is that all?
[18:48] <thexyz> tymonn: more like ~70%
[18:48] <lallenlowe> that's too bad
[18:48] <noxx> I can't make calls! please help!
[18:48] <tymonn> ITS ALIVE! thanks thexyz and stylemistake
[18:48] <napster> ok, how to take a few screenshots?
[18:48] <renkinao> dat_step3 you have the bootloader screen on your nexus ?
[18:48] <stylemistake> tymonn: booted?
[18:48] <tymonn> rebooted at least stylemistake
[18:49] <toby> someone have a probleme to update repository?
[18:49] <dat_step3> renkinao yeah, that screen is up. it says start at the top (of which i can't click on) and it still says that the status is locked.
[18:49] <Zarmaka> Anyway to type in or remove PIN code in Ubuntu, cant connect to operator :(
[18:49] <tymonn> stylemistake: YES
[18:50] <shadyKhan> so has anyone figured out a way to install this via windows or do i have to use ubuntu live cd or install the full os
[18:50] <stylemistake> tymonn: :)
[18:50] <kanazky> For those of you who can't make calls, you are sure you are using the GSM version of the nexus right?
[18:50] <renkinao> dat_step3 6.Boot the device by pressing the power button (pointed by an arrow with Start on the screen).
[18:50] <montdouan> yes kanasky
[18:50] <fluxim> does the install replace recovery?
[18:50] <napster> Keyboard stays there when trying to use Gmail app. Looks like a bug
[18:50] <thexyz> fluxim: yes
[18:50] <llstarks> i'm so impressed with how the preview release has been handled. cyanogen sources made me very happy.
[18:50] <renkinao> dat_step3 the the wiki.ubuntu.com
[18:50] <thexyz> fluxim: it replaces recovery with cwm
[18:50] <petar_> it dont work
[18:50] <stylemistake> tymonn: after next 15 minutes you'll decide to flash android back :)
[18:50] <fluxim> ok thats nice, had that before! thanks
[18:51] <maxjezy> well, i got it working
[18:51] <llstarks> wait,the recovery is cwm?
[18:51] <maxjezy> phone got hot
[18:51] <llstarks> why not twrp?
[18:51] <thexyz> llstarks: apparently
[18:51] <ben1066> Is the source code for qml-phone-shell avaliable?
[18:51] <om26er> napster, report it for the keyboard
[18:51] <maxjezy> slow, laggy
[18:51] <tymonn> stylemistake: i have CWM still right?
[18:51] <kanazky> How do those of you who are using it, enjoying the device?
[18:51] <the_jeebster> if I install the dev preview on my nexus 4, can I swap between the two OS or does ubuntu become the primary?
[18:51] <Noucki> Hi !
[18:51] <dat_step3> renkinao: so you start the device up when on the desktop it says "< waiting for device >"?
[18:51] <stylemistake> tymonn: if you flashed using the official way, then it got rewritten
[18:51] <petar_> which root-program is the best ?
[18:52] <napster> om26er: ok
[18:52] <bpultimate> the_jeebster:  It wipes your Andorid
[18:52] <fairct> the_jeebster: it replaces your os
[18:52] <baaba> so i unlocked a fresh nexus 4 (bootloader says "LOCK STATE - unlocked") and did a cold boot to android, then ran phablet-flash -b
[18:52] <petar_> occam ?
[18:52] <om26er> the_jeebster, you can keep only one os but reverting is pretty straight forward
[18:52] <the_jeebster> yikes, guess I should make a backup :)
[18:52] <Guest71552> Is there any way to close apps in the touch preview ?
[18:52] <the_jeebster> I wish I had an extra n4 just for testing
[18:52] <montdouan> Stupid question: where is the parameter screen? I can even not change the clock
[18:52] <renkinao> dat_step3, my devices was already unlocked with windows, I can't help you more on this step :s
[18:52] <Noucki> Anybody managed to install Ubuntu on the Nexus 4 ? I personnaly have a black screen :<
[18:52] <MostHated> with a CWM backup, where does it save it to?
[18:52] <baaba> after 20 some minutes, the file was sent, and i get "The device needs to be unlocked for the following to work" "< waiting for device >"
[18:52] <fairct> the_jeebster: I wish I didn't have a toro nexus :)
[18:52] <stylemistake> Guest71552: half-swipe from bottom -> X
[18:53] <OpException> Kanazky: It seems like a pretty sweet demo of how things will look. but it's not really usable. I'm diggin' it.
[18:53] <eth2> got it on my nexus, but now there is no sms/tele/gsm :3
[18:53] <baaba> and the device rebooted itself into the bootloader
[18:53] <renkinao> Euh, les francais , sa marche la musique chez vous ?
[18:53] <dat_step3> renkinao: how did you unlock with windows?
 Unlocked?
[18:53] <Noucki> Ah bonjour
[18:53] <the_jeebster> fairct: ha, not bad. could be worse. I stuck with my G1 for a good two years after launch
[18:53] <rmcsc> dat_step3: Using adb bootloader unlock, no?
[18:53] <Noucki> J'arrive pas à  l'installer perso xD
[18:53] <montdouan> opexception: same for me, it looks like a demo !
[18:53] <liecno> renkinao: nope
[18:53] <rmcsc> the_jeebster: How the heck is that bad? The G1 is an amazing little machine.
[18:53] <ddadon> Qui est Francophone ?
[18:53] <kanazky> OpException: you think it would work for day to day operations at this point? Or more of a try then flash back?
[18:53] <doomlord> How is ubuntu-tablet as a *developper environment*
[18:53] <Noucki> J'ai téléchargé la version CWM en .zip mais il Black Screen
[18:53] <Noucki> Moi
[18:53] <dat_step3> renkinao: in windows? i thought that was a linux thing. i must be wrong.
[18:53] <twtww> Noucki:  Can't understand...
[18:54] <montdouan> I have false tweets, contacts, stuff like that
[18:54] <Guest20131> renkinao: je sais pas je n'ai pas de idevice compatible
[18:54] <baaba> nothing's happening, and if i select Start from the bootloader, it boots back into android
[18:54] <Sephiroth_> Is there a way to get Ubuntu to read the GSM card on the Galaxy Nexus?
[18:54] <the_jeebster> rmsc: not bad, just slow compared to more modern devices and lack of support
[18:54] <renkinao> dat_step3 with nexus toolkit, it's very easy
[18:54] <OpException> kanazky, no way will you be able to daily-drive this.
[18:54] <ogra_> montdouan, thats why its called demo :)
[18:54] <Noucki> I was saying I've got problem booting Ubuntu
[18:54] <mattlmiller> will the Ubuntu os come out for Verizon's nexus
[18:54] <dat_step3> thanks, let me do this and i'll get back to you.
[18:54] <Nishy> Anyone of you tried installing via CWM instead of from Ubuntu? Does it work fine?
[18:54] <Guest68233> wasted 2 hours. Its unusable. Installed Android again. But I am not disappointed. I am more eager than ever to get Ubuntu now. Very good demo.
[18:54] <twtww> twtww:Not too much problems.
[18:54] <renkinao> liecno deja sa tourne ^
[18:54] <baaba> i'm thinking the device isn't supposed to boot after the new image is sent to the phone?
[18:54] <Noucki> I've got a blackscreen while booting
[18:54] <Noucki> But ADB works
[18:54] <renkinao> dat_step3 ok, look on xda for more details
[18:54] <mhall119> mattlmiller: check XDA forums, people are already working on it
[18:54] <baaba> or am i wrong?
[18:54] <dat_step3> renkinao: thanks, let me do this real quick and i'll get back to you
[18:54] <napster> Easiest way to take screenshots : Use DDMS :)
[18:55] <fluxim> I did a recovery with cvm after having problems with the installation and getting a locked screen, but know it worked. So there are certain problems with locked screen and restarting the install and try to install on recovery mode.
[18:55]  * napster is finding uby interesting on GNex :)
[18:55] <baaba> i mean, before it actually flashes the image
[18:55] <montdouan> I thought it was a usable demo, I could phone with and so on. But here I can even not change the clock, read my contacts, etc
[18:55] <eth2> i thought the same :3
[18:55] <zKarp1> is there a way the tweak settings? GUI prefered
[18:55] <mhall119> zKarp1: not yet, no
[18:56] <mhall119> zKarp1: apart from the indicators at the top
[18:56] <ddadon_> montdouan: Toujours la ?
[18:56] <montdouan> ddadon: oui
[18:56] <noxx_> How do I insert my pin number so I can make phone calls??
[18:56] <noxx_> does anyone know?
[18:56] <odb36_> join the new ubuntu phone forum - http://www.uposforum.com/
[18:56] <OpException> it has VERY limited functionality. But it does show off the semantics of using the device, and allow some devs to start hacking away at it, which was the whole goal of this preview anyway.
[18:56] <Mark__> Hi all. Did anyone have any issues with the quantal-preinstalled-system-armel+grouper.img md5sum not matching?
[18:56] <montdouan> same problem noxx here.... don"'t know
[18:56] <ddadon_> montdouan: Je boot la
[18:56] <djalexc> hi help me please on the 3rd step
[18:56] <ben1066> Mark__: try again, likely a transmission failure
[18:56] <awe> noxx_, not yet implemented...   the preview *only* works with unlocked SIMs
[18:56] <shaun> HI there followed thwe]]
[18:57] <fluxim> the keyboard seems really small to me. the ui is amazing and nice to explore..
[18:57] <rmcsc> awe: Unlocked SIMs or unlocked phones?
[18:57] <llstarks> split
[18:57] <zKarp1> atleast is there a way to clear off all the "demo" stuff. Like contacts, messages, etc etc. ?
[18:57] <stylemistake> odb36_: useless
[18:57] <ben1066> It's on the wiki zKarp1
[18:57] <ogra_> rmcsc, all nexus phones are unlocked :)
[18:57] <incomplete> Hello
[18:57] <plars> awe: is there some dbus method that can be called to unlock the sim through ofono? or is there more to it than that?
[18:57] <odb36_> its new
[18:57] <baaba> anyone? i'm stuck with the flashing; phablet-flash is "waiting for device" while the device boots into the bootloader
[18:57] <awe> plars, no
[18:57] <zKarp1> Ah thanks ben1066
[18:57] <napster> How to remove an app from the running list?
[18:57] <jishnu7> Hey, can we install any app from ubuntu repo to touch ?
[18:57] <eth2> how do i close apps?
[18:57] <llstarks> if i have my way, i'll have this running on cdma+lte
[18:57] <awe> plars, and yes there's more to it than that
[18:57] <shaun> bloody keyboard lol well i follwed the instructions on how to install ubuntu on my nexus 7 and i have a issue were the terminal seems to hang with this quantal-preinstalled-boot-armel+grouper.img: OK Pushing /home/shaun/Downloads/phablet-flash/95/quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip to /sdcard/autodeploy.zip
[18:57] <ben1066> napster: only way I've found is to kill it from ssh
[18:57] <baaba> tried it a few time now but the same thing always happens
[18:58] <trsohmers> Greetings
[18:58] <plars> awe: ok, figured as much
[18:58] <rmcsc> odb36_: Not really. Look at the Sprint and Verizon ones. ;)
[18:58] <napster> ben1066: hmm, that is terrible UX
[18:58] <ben1066> shaun: It'll take a while
[18:58] <incomplete> @<baaba> change your usb cable
[18:58] <mhall119> napster: go to the app, swipe up from the bottom until you get the HUD search icon
[18:58] <meetingology> incomplete: Error: "<baaba>" is not a valid command.
[18:58] <ben1066> It's a big fine
[18:58] <weisso5_> adb push is slow
[18:58] <rmcsc> Pardon, that last message was to ogra_ !
[18:58] <fairct_> llstarks: toro?
[18:58] <ben1066> file*
[18:58] <stylemistake> odb36_: but people are still going to use xda, mostly
[18:58] <mhall119> in the HUD overlay is an X to close the app
[18:58] <napster> mhall119: ok
[18:58] <trsohmers> how long did it take for you guys to install?
[18:58] <ben1066> napster: Yes, but it's a developer preview not a final product
[18:58] <trsohmers> not including downloading
[18:58] <llstarks> fairct_, d2vzw
[18:58] <rmcsc> napster: I've not run it but have read it a couple times, so I think it's swipe up, then press the X.
[18:58] <fairct_> llstarks: aww shucks :P
[18:58] <mhall119> trsohmers: about 10 minutes to install, longer if you include the download time
[18:58] <mhall119> on an N7
[18:58] <shaun> cheers <ben1066> thought id done something wrong :-)
[18:58] <trsohmers> mhall119: I've been stuck on pushing autodeploy.zip for the past 20 minutes
[18:59] <montdouan> How to unlock the sim ???
[18:59] <baaba> incomplete: seriously?
[18:59] <llstarks> fairct_, canonical did the best thing possible imho. i'm going to that porting meeting
[18:59] <napster> mhall119: rmcsc ok, got it
[18:59] <baaba> trsohmers: it can take more than 20 minutes
[18:59] <napster> thanks
[18:59] <ddadon_> montdouan: : ça marche :D
[18:59] <OpException> it took me maybe 15 mins to download and install. but that was well before the repo was getting hammered, so I had good download speed.
[18:59] <step2> renkinao: you still here?
[18:59] <rmcsc> ben1066: Developer preview. So if I make an app I can test it here? Is there any way to install apps? Perhaps adb install?
[18:59] <apardo> hi. there are some people porting ubuntuphone tu S3 ?
[18:59] <fairct_> llstarks: porting meeting?
[18:59] <trsohmers> baaba: Download was fine... it's been stuck on this one operation for 20 minutes
[18:59] <ddadon_> montdouan: J'ai enlever le code pin depuis un autre phone et ça a marché !
[18:59] <step2> renkinao: i'm back with a different name. lost connection.
[18:59] <montdouan> ddadon: tu as fait comment exactement?
[18:59] <mikey_> Hey, after install Ubuntu on my Phone, can i restore a nandroid backup with CWM?
[18:59] <renkinao_> step2 yes
[18:59] <montdouan> ddadon; h aok !
[18:59] <ben1066> rmcsc: with the Ubuntu SDK you can make applications for it
[18:59] <ryansipes> Has anyone figured out where contact's pictures are stored on the device?  I'd like to import some of mine.
[18:59] <ben1066> and push them to the device
[18:59] <rmcsc> mikey_: If you didn't overwrite the recovery, I believe you can.
[18:59] <fairct_> mikey_: yes, apparently that is possible
[18:59] <baaba> trsohmers: specifically it's taking about 1100 seconds to push the package on the device for me
[18:59] <montdouan> ddadon: je savais meme pas qu'on pouvait faire ca
[19:00] <step2> renkinao still working on rooting from windows, the download was missing a file i need.
[19:00] <rmcsc> ben1066: So they push to the phone, right?
[19:00] <ben1066> mikey_: so long as you copy it from your phone first
[19:00] <OpException> I haven't had any luck getting the device to connect as USB msc device.
[19:00] <ben1066> rmcsc: yes, but not via adb
[19:00] <montdouan> ddadon: merci, je vasi faire de meme !
[19:00] <stylemistake> ryansipes: you figured out how to use contacts?
[19:00] <llstarks> fairct_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
[19:00] <trsohmers> baaba: Taking? So you're still on the same part?
[19:00] <rmcsc> ben1066: Alright, thanks.
[19:00] <Mark__> ben1066: Tried it 3 times now but still getting same. I'll restart the router as Virgin Media have been known to have crappy firmware causing corrupt downloads
[19:00] <ryansipes> stylemistake, Figured out how to make new ones and delete the sample ones
[19:00] <OpException> how would you get your nandroid backup onto the device to restore back to android with CWM
[19:00] <OpException> ?
[19:00] <shaun> so should i just leave it connected and leave it for a hour ;_)
[19:00] <ryansipes> stylemistake, Now looking at adding pictures
[19:00] <renkinao_> step2 the download of ? my name has changed now it's renkinao_
[19:00] <stylemistake> ryansipes: bravo
[19:00] <baaba> trsohmers: yes i've been trying a few times but can't get the image to be actually installed on the device
[19:00] <fluxim> Is there a OTA option with ubuntu for phones or do i have to flash every new version and all my data are gone?
[19:00] <icota_> hey! can any of you guys actually running it please run: echo $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP and echo $GDMSESSION
[19:00] <ben1066> OpException: flash stock android and push it through adb or so?
[19:01] <BlackFang171> does anyone know how to connect to a hidden wifi network?
[19:01] <trsohmers> baaba: What device? I've got a Nexus 10
[19:01] <ben1066> Probably an easier way :P
[19:01] <weisso5_> Nexus7 is stuck on "nuSensorService thread starting..." any idea what that means?
[19:01] <baaba> it seems to successfully upload the image to the sd card, but stops short of flashing it
[19:01] <step2> renkinao_ the installation of the SDK packages
[19:01] <baaba> trsohmers: nexus 4
[19:01] <awe> BlackFang171, you have to be brave and work with NM connection files directly
[19:01] <mikey_> ben1066: what you mean with copy it from your phone?
[19:01] <step2> renkinao_ it's missing the extra package
[19:01] <ryansipes> stylemistake, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes
[19:01] <ben1066> mikey_:  make sure it's on your PC first
[19:01] <ben1066> The backup
[19:01] <baaba> i guess i'll try another usb cable then
[19:01] <fairct_> llstarks: oh cool! thanks
[19:01] <ben1066> I'm fairly sure it'll get overriden otherwise
[19:01] <trsohmers> baaba: My device just restarted
[19:01] <mikey_> A ok
[19:01] <OpException> I've had no luck with hidden WiFi networks.
[19:01] <step2> renkinao_ though i'm unsure if i even need it. it's just a usb driver.................. which i should already have
[19:01] <awe> hidden network support has not yet been implemented in the new network indicator
[19:01] <renkinao_> step2 what you mean by sdk ?
[19:01] <ryansipes> stylemistake, That gave me some info to SSH to the phone
[19:02] <step2> http://www.thesuperusersguide.com/instructions-for-windows.html
[19:02] <stylemistake> ryansipes: wow
[19:02] <shaun> bloody hell its come to life :-)
[19:02] <rmmmpl> it says Grouper is supported for Touch, then it says Nakasi OR Nakasig if you should wanna restore. does this mean we can install the preview on Tilapia?
[19:02] <stylemistake> ryansipes: now i think i've rushed to reflash android back
[19:02] <step2> renkinao_  http://www.thesuperusersguide.com/instructions-for-windows.html
[19:02] <ryanteck> Hello?
[19:02] <rmcsc> Hello ryanteck.
[19:02] <step2> renkinao_ did you use something else?
[19:02] <jbooth> OpException: Release notes say that. You can do it manually through NetworkManager.
[19:02] <renkinao_> step2 one moment, i look your link
[19:03] <eth2> i cant even use the calculator ...
[19:03] <Phryyyk> can anyone tell me if it is possible to flash it via OSX?
[19:03] <Modna> Hey, anyone know if terminal exists on this?
[19:03] <Estragon> I can't find the adress bar on the browser
[19:03] <jbooth> Cut&paste from a desktop which has it setup to the phone
[19:03] <ryanteck> One question about it, is the image meant to contain all the information about the people?
[19:03] <Tassadar> weisso5_: you're not dual-booting it, right?
[19:03] <weisso5_> Tassadar: correct
[19:03] <awe> Modna, no terminal
[19:03] <awe> ssh is your best friend
[19:03] <ryanteck> Bit sad about the fact its a phone that uses HTML5 yet it can't connect to 3G :C
[19:03] <awe> see rel notes for explanation
[19:03] <fluxim> where to find the settings inside ubuntu for phones?
[19:03] <plars> Modna: not yet, but you can get to a shell through 'adb root; adb shell; ubuntu_chroot shell'
[19:03] <trsohmers> baaba: It's flashing for me :D ...good luck
[19:04] <step2> renkinao_ oh i get it. this is installing adb on windows
[19:04] <Zero_> Hello there
[19:04] <incomplete> phablet-flash throws an error any idea? adb root say: adbd cannot run as root in production builds
[19:04] <awe> plars, ssh is the recommended approach due to PID namespaces
[19:04]  * napster wants to develop a quick test app for this. 
[19:04] <Tassadar> weisso5_: how did you install it, that ubuntu installer or ZIP in recovery?
[19:04] <renkinao_> step2 ok
[19:04] <plars> awe: ah, true
[19:04] <Modna> Thanke awe. Is SSH'ing into it possible?
[19:04] <dexbg> Anyone got it running ?
[19:04] <awe> yes
[19:04] <awe> see release notes
[19:04] <Nishy> Is anyone flashing via twrp/cwm?
[19:04] <eth2> even music seems to be an fake app?
[19:04] <weisso5_> Tassadar: ubuntu installer, $ phablet-flash -b
[19:04] <ogra_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes
[19:04] <Zero_> Anyone know's why I can't place calls?
[19:04] <Tassadar> that's weird
[19:04] <awe> you can ssh via wifi or via USB with adb port forwarding
[19:05] <Tassadar> but I'm getting that too
[19:05] <Tassadar> on first boot or did you reboot before?
[19:05] <weisso5_> Tassadar: first
[19:05] <plars> awe: they'll need to install ssh first though
[19:05] <renkinao_> step2 it's ok, when you're unlocked you can use linux& install ubuntu
[19:05] <plars> Modna: so go in over adb first, install ssh, then ssh to it using the instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes#Access_the_device_over_SSH
[19:06] <crypticmofo> anyone have a link showing ubuntu os working on nexus device ?
[19:06] <step2> yeah, i've just got to get my device unlocked
[19:06] <rmcsc> crypticmofo: probably up on youtube already
[19:06] <shaun> am off thanks for the advice now lets play with nexus 7 running ubuntu :-)
[19:06] <rmcsc> crypticmofo: here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsZ5geVerHc
[19:06] <noxx_> I've fixed the locked SIM thing
[19:07] <crypticmofo> thanks
[19:07] <noxx_> Now I can't answer my phone...
[19:07] <_panzersajt> I would like to get some info on porting ubuntu touch to other devices. I have a omap4460 based tablet right now and as I know Galaxy Nexus is also based on omap4460
[19:07] <Vivien_> hi all
[19:07] <renkinao_> very long to boot right ?
[19:07] <noxx_> I rings but the screen doesn't turn on
[19:07] <awe> _panzersajt, porting guide coming soon
[19:07] <Vivien66> One person speak french for help me to install ubuntu on my nexus 7 ? :x
[19:07] <fluxim> there are no loading sceens inside the new os, thats weired
[19:07] <noxx_> Does anyone know how to answer the phone?
[19:07] <ninjai> Is it not yet possible to flash my galaxy nexus from windows?
[19:08] <renkinao_> vivien66 oui ?
[19:08] <Vivien66> renkinao_: bonjour :)
[19:08] <awe> noxx_, you should get a pop-up that allows you to answer a call if things are working correctly
[19:08] <awe> noxx_, what device?
[19:08] <rmcsc> ninjai: You have a custom recovery on your device, say CWM?
[19:08] <noxx_> Maguro
[19:08] <afix> does the nexus 7 version actually have any functional parts?
[19:08] <renkinao_> vivien66 quelque chose ne vapas?
[19:08] <afix> it seems there is only a browser
[19:08] <ninjai> rmcs, I do have CWM
[19:08] <afix> thats all
[19:08] <awe> noxx_, do you get a ringtone?
[19:08] <noxx_> yes i do
[19:08] <afix> tell me if i'm missing something
[19:08] <_panzersajt> awe thanks and where will it be available?
[19:08] <shrik> afix: not much, by the looks of things
[19:08] <ninjai> rmcsc, I do have CWM**
[19:08] <Doriftuh> hi
[19:08] <weisso5_> Tassadar: there is also a load error on "libnvcap_video.so"
[19:08] <Vivien66> renkinao_: j'ai une n7, et je voudrais installer ubuntu dessus mais je comprend pas grand chose au tuto en anglais du site ubuntu :/
[19:09] <ogra_> afix, video player too
[19:09] <afix> shrik: the nexus 4 version is better?
[19:09] <fluxim> how do i reboot the phone inside the new os? and where are the settings??
[19:09] <awe> _panzersajt, it was supposed to be up today, so at this point tomorrow sometime
[19:09] <Zero_> Why can't I place or recieve calls?
[19:09] <Tassadar> weisso5_: that one is okay
[19:09] <afix> ogra_: doesn't work for me
[19:09] <Doriftuh> i have a nexus 7 and can't install it because of the following error: Unsupported device, autodetect fails device
[19:09] <shrik> ogra_: doesn't work for me either
[19:09] <renkinao_> vivien66 tu as deja fait quoi sur ta n7 ?
[19:09] <ogra_> afix, it is a deveoper preview so people start writing apps
[19:09] <afix> yep, sure
[19:09] <shrik> afix: haven't tried it on my n4, and don't really plan to..
[19:09] <ogra_> afix, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes
[19:09] <Vivien66> renkinao_:  c'est possible de continuer en pm ? ^^ ya trop de monde!
[19:09] <_panzersajt> awe and one last question where it will be? on dev.ubuntu.com?
[19:09] <Doriftuh> does anybody have an idea why i can't install it?
[19:09] <weisso5_> Tassadar:  and then before the welcome message, "E/btMacWriter(  133): Failed to copy bt adress from partition"
[19:09] <renkinao_> vivien66 oui mais je sais pas trop comment faire >.<
[19:09] <awe> most likely, but I'm not privy to the exact location
[19:10] <_panzersajt> awe thanks
[19:10] <Tassadar> that one too, there is actually nothing related to actual error
[19:10] <rmcsc> Download phablet-armhf + system-grouper from here http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/quantal/mwc-demo/
[19:10] <awe> _panzersajt, might be linked to the updated rel notes
[19:10] <shadyKhan> can i install this with a live cd?
[19:10] <rmmmpl> Dorifthu: do you have the 3G version of N7?
[19:10] <awe> noxx_, might  be related to the PIN on your SIM
[19:10] <awe> what was your workaround?
[19:10] <rmmmpl> i am trying to figure out if it is supported
[19:10] <rmcsc> ninjai Download phablet-armhf + system-grouper from here http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/quantal/mwc-demo/
[19:10] <napster> where are those app development tutorials x-(
[19:10] <fluxim> where can i find the settings inside ubuntu for phones?
[19:11] <zAo^2> Can someone point me to information of the display server used?
[19:11] <afix> ogra_, shrik: at least you'd expect something like a turn off menu :D
[19:11] <awe> fluxim, the indicators are it.  There's no "global" settings application
[19:11] <_panzersajt> awe maybe this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
[19:11] <shrik> afix: just remembered, the notepad application works also, in its own limited way
[19:11] <mihok> Are the phones listed on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install the only ones able to get ubuntu on their phone?
[19:11] <odb36_> porting is still not available
[19:11] <rmcsc> ninjai: Make a nandroid backup of your device (back this up to the computer, just in case), and flash those two files I told you to download. First phablet and then grouper.
[19:11] <awe> _panzersajt, yes!
[19:11] <ninjai> rmcsc this: "quantal-preinstalled-recovery-armel+grouper.img " ??
[19:11] <fluxim> awe: by indicators u meen the top bar?
[19:11] <afix> shrik: yep, but it seems it looses the notes after a reboot
[19:11] <awe> fluxim, yes
[19:11] <menelkir> when I see the link of "touch/porting", I just run to the link and... "stay tuned" :/
[19:11] <odb36_> tomorow should be released the official instructions
[19:11] <awe> you can drag down from the top bar to access individual indicators
[19:11] <giorat> Can I make a dualboot on galaxy nexsus with android and ubuntu os????
[19:12] <ogra_> mihok, until someone ports it
[19:12] <awe> giorat, no
[19:12] <giorat> are you sure awe?
[19:12] <awe> yes
[19:12] <mikey_> For all people who will flash Ubuntu with a custom recovery: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2149705
[19:12] <giorat> You can do dualboot of android rom...
[19:12] <Guest4931> Just installed Ubuntu on my Nexus 7, but it's not reponsive to my touch on the screen
[19:12] <mihok> ogra_, so trying the steps on a different android phone will most likely result in brick?
[19:12] <baaba> alright awesome, switched to a real machine instead of a vm and now it started flashing
[19:12] <fluxim> awe: so clear all the mockups or set an unlock code is not possible, cause there is no indicator for it?
[19:12] <dimerbox> is there a list of phones it will work on ? have the galaxy SGH-896
[19:12] <odb36_> How to install Ubuntu on Nexus 7 - http://www.uposforum.com/thread-7.html
[19:12] <nocoast> Hai
[19:13] <rmcsc> ninjai: quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip and quantal-preinstalled-system-armel+grouper.img
[19:13] <dimerbox> i896*
[19:13] <popey> odb36_: stop spamming your forum here
[19:13] <awe> fluxim, correct
[19:13] <giorat> why not a dualboot....
[19:13] <ogra_> mihok, until someone ports it to that device, yes, i'm sure the xda devs will soon do many ports
[19:13] <baaba> might be useful to mention on the wiki that vms might problematic for flashing?
[19:13] <awe> giorat, I'm sure about dual boot
[19:13] <rmcsc> giorat: It's difficult enough to dualboot Android.
[19:13] <odb36_> popey, ok sry
[19:13] <ingar195> gsm fix: remmove your pin code
[19:13] <waa> ok I flash it on galaxy nexus and it get stuck on screen that say 14 tweets received and a clock and i can't interact with the device
[19:13] <afix> bye, i'll come back later ^^
[19:13] <ninjai> thanks rmcsc, I'll give it a shot
[19:13] <rmcsc> ninjai: "[15:12] <odb36_> How to install Ubuntu on Nexus 7 - http://www.uposforum.com/thread-7.html"
[19:14] <stylemistake> BEWARE OF DEVICE SPECIFIC ISSUES!!! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes#Device_Specific_Issues
[19:14] <OpException> waa: slide from left to right
[19:14] <fluxim> awe: ok thats crazy and the same thing is with rebooting the device or update it? update only with flashing it?
[19:14] <muskamj> I'm sure this issue has come up before, but I just tried to install Ubuntu Touch on my Nexus 7.  When the tablet reboots, I get a blank black screen after the initial "Google" logo.  Any idea what went wrong?
[19:14] <odb36_> many things
[19:15] <odb36_> wait some time and restart the phone
[19:15] <Guest4931> touchscreen doesn't work, and not listed in the device specific issues
[19:15] <rmcsc> ninjai:  I sent you a link to UPOS forum. Remove the " from the link, woops! Good luck.
[19:15] <step2> how long does it take for the device to be unlock?
[19:15] <stylemistake> Guest4931: what's the phone?
[19:15] <Guest4931> nexus 7
[19:16] <popey> rmcsc: please stop spamming us with those forums links
[19:16] <awe> fluxim, this is "developer preview"
[19:16] <rmcsc> popey: My, oh, my. Such sensitivity. I only sent it once, copied from another user here.
[19:17] <step2> renkinao_ i got it unlocked
[19:17] <awe> meant to give the community the opportunity to get their hands on it early, understand the app model, kick the tires, contribute to the stack, ...
[19:17] <step2> renkinao_ i just used linux and figured it out
[19:17] <nocoast> ok
[19:17] <nocoast> i have a question
[19:17] <nocoast> i added the PPA
[19:17] <nocoast> to debian
[19:17] <rmcsc> ninjai: Reading that link I sent ya... well, it's wrong. Seems you can't trust links without reading.
[19:17] <nocoast> i saw the supported distros
[19:17] <nocoast> were all ubuntu
[19:17] <sergiusens> exactly, not ready for prime use, but good to go for some code crunching
[19:17] <fluxim> awe: Ok maybe developer preview is not even pre alpha, but where is the terminal to start as a developer? quick fix to that?
[19:17] <dustyjam> hello, can i install the ubuntu image in the recovery mode?
[19:17] <nocoast> Is there a way
[19:18] <nocoast> to make the PPA work
[19:18] <nocoast> with debian?
[19:18] <awe> fluxim, checkout the release notes, it's explained...
[19:18] <ianblenke> fluxim: adb shell?
[19:18] <nocoast> or is there a way
[19:18] <nocoast> i can get my hands
[19:18] <awe> your best bet is install ssh
[19:18] <kknikolas> actually the os crashes if you press on center screen while device starts up (is that only a bug on my gnex?)
[19:18] <nocoast> on phablet-tools
[19:18] <renkinao_> step2 ok now you can install ubuntu i think
[19:18] <awe> and ssh into the container
[19:18] <renkinao_> step2 i go afk
[19:18] <sergiusens> nocoast: just install the source package and rebuild... or download the sources... lp:phablet-tools
[19:18] <step2> renkinao_ alright
[19:18] <ninjai> rmcsc, Doesn't look like I can run the installer from windows... or am I mistaken?
[19:18] <llstarks> is the mailing list ahead of the web interface?
[19:18] <awe> you can use adb shell / ubuntu_chroot shell, but that just chroot's into the container
[19:18] <nocoast> sergiusens, where are the sources located?
[19:18] <nocoast> i see the installer
[19:18] <nocoast> touch
[19:18] <nocoast> page
[19:18] <nocoast> is there a link to the source?
[19:18] <corndogs> hey everyone - Is the phone app supposed to work on my gnex? cuz it doesn't.
[19:19] <nocoast> i have no problem building it
[19:19] <sergiusens> nocoast: http://launchpad.net/phablet-tools
[19:19] <Zarmaka> Anyone found a way to type in pin yet?
[19:19] <nocoast> thank you very much kind friend
[19:19] <kknikolas> corndogs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes
[19:19] <ericvh> how long should boot take on Nexus 7, I'm getting a black screen of death after the google logo....
[19:19] <montdouan> zarmaka, not possible, you have to remove your PIN code
[19:19] <awe> Zarmaka, for your SIM?
[19:19] <corndogs> montdouan: that would explain why mine hasn't been working
[19:19] <markdomoszlai> Good evening. How can I get into the settings on ubuntu mobile? To remove the basic account and all those random tweets/people from my phone.
[19:20] <weisso5_> ericvh: probably stuck on something, try $ adb logcat
[19:20] <rmcsc> ninjai: That installer they link to isn't even for Ubuntu for phones. It's for a full-out Ubuntu. Disregard that link. Sorry.
[19:20] <Guest55600> just installed on my galaxy nexus - i see the google logo at startup and then the black screen of death...
[19:20] <llstarks> does anyone else think that ubuntu phone should've been gnu/linux instead of android/linux minus the ui? i would've liked some x11 drivers tbh. i guess x and wayland don't belong on phones yet.
[19:20] <corndogs> Guest55600: wait a while, there's no boot animation
[19:20] <Zarmaka> Yeah for SIM, gotta put it in another phone then to remove it
[19:20] <corndogs> just to be sure
[19:20] <Guest55600> ah!
[19:20] <ninjai> rmcsc, that's what I thought.  Too bad! Thanks anyways.
[19:21] <ninjai> For anyone who has it running, how does it compare to android?
[19:21] <montdouan> corndogs, yes probably why it does not work on your isde. remove pin code and retry
[19:21] <markdomoszlai> Well, its smoother for sure.
[19:21] <markdomoszlai> But I cant see the settings menu?o.o
[19:21] <icota_> llstarks: they are shipping wayland with these demo images, it might be that they're intending to use it in the future
[19:21] <ogra_> markdomoszlai, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes
[19:21] <corndogs> montdouan: Got it, thanks. Is there a reason it's lagging? maybe also the pin's fault?
[19:21] <rmcsc> ninjai: Still, the first process I mentioned (downloading those two files) will work. Nandroid your installation (save it to your PC), then flash the zip files on the device using CWM. Should work.
[19:21] <corndogs> it looked pretty smooth in all the videos I've seen, but I'm getting some lag.
[19:22] <markdomoszlai> No lagg at all on Nexus 4. Smooth as butter.
[19:22] <ericvh> adb logcat shows last operation waiting for nuSensorService...
[19:22] <doomlord> how is this from a developpers perspective. can you run C++,openGL|ES graphical applications on it similar to android-NDK
[19:22] <weisso5_> ericvh: i'm stuck on the same thing too
[19:22] <doomlord> just with C++, no javaneeded
[19:22]  * guest28 Hey all. I want to know if anyone have install from OSX to nexus ?
[19:22] <some12> anybody know if we can dual boot the dev. edition using multiROM?
[19:22] <ogra_> some12, nope
[19:23] <some12> too bad :(
[19:23] <Tassadar> wait
[19:23] <ericvh> kk, thanks weisso5_, guess we wait for an update...
[19:23] <Tassadar> a
[19:23] <Endox> did you guys find some settings menu?
[19:23] <Guest4931> touchscreen worked now, just a long wait
[19:23] <montdouan> corndogs. Not due to PIN issue. i also have lags on my galaxy nexus
[19:23] <Tassadar> while util I make it workin!
[19:23] <rmcsc> guest28: I believe your best option is virtualizing Ubuntu using VMware and installing from there.
[19:23] <Guest55600> so, what is everyone else's impression on this, so far ?
[19:23] <llstarks> icota_, but there's still the point that we can't run ubuntu armel/armhf in a desktop way on our phones. i'd be quite content skipping over free x11 drivers like lima and freedreno if canonical can convince manufacturers to use wayland binaries for display in 2014.
[19:23] <yugnip> guest28 host os for adb should not matter
[19:23] <guest28> @rmcsc thx
[19:23] <Modna> SSH works great, Basically hammering it with installs to see what works. XBMC is installing. Who knows what will crash or whatever
[19:23] <meetingology> guest28: Error: "rmcsc" is not a valid command.
[19:23] <corndogs> ok, thanks. I can't wait for this to get stable, but after a while I'll probably switch to ParanoidAndroid.
[19:24] <Guest55600> lol
[19:24] <Modna> If I install software, should it show up in the applications menu?
[19:24] <corndogs> but still, i think a CONGRATULATIONS is in order to Ubuntu. :)
[19:24] <Guest55600> i've been on paranoid android so far
[19:24] <corndogs> corndogs out!
[19:24] <icota_> llstarks: you will probably get that, making qtwayland run on android egl is trivial
[19:24] <Guest55600> i am thinking i'll be here for a bit, and go back
[19:24] <zAo^2> Modna: does it run Xorg?
[19:24] <generalsnus> Soo.. Anyone trying to figure out if ubuntu can be installed on motorola xoom?
[19:24] <llstarks> icota_, but you need drivers still right? i'd want blobs and open-source stuff
[19:25] <odb36_> no for now
[19:25] <menelkir> generalsnus: afaik, not yet
[19:25] <rmcsc> generalsnus: Soon, probably. Give them some time.
[19:25] <kaiser10123> hey
[19:25] <menelkir> generalsnus: the developer preview is (atm) only for nexus devices
[19:25] <odb36_> maibe tomorrow there will be information for porting other devices
[19:25] <mmike|2> Anyone has a confirmation that grouper image works for tilapia devices? Can't find any clear answers...
[19:25] <icota_> llstarks: yes, but it makes using blobs that much easier
[19:25] <menelkir> odb36_: im dying for, at least, start porting to tab2 7
[19:25] <nocoast> mmike|2,
[19:25] <nocoast> im sure it does
[19:25] <Modna> zAo^2 - Don't know yet
[19:25] <nocoast> but i doubt
[19:25] <nocoast> youll get
[19:25] <nocoast> RIL
[19:25] <nocoast> Im sure you can get it to boot
[19:26] <trompette> hey guys !
[19:26] <UbuntuHorn> sorry, just joined, but i assume cdimage.ubuntu.com is getting stuck on waiting response because people are slamming it?
[19:26] <nocoast> just dont expect RIL
[19:26] <rmcsc> mmike|2: It should, but 3G won't work. Same as Android ROMs.
[19:26] <fairct_> generalsnus: I recommend checking on xda... there are already people porting on there for some devices
[19:26] <kaiser10123> i have a verizon galaxy nexus that i only use as a wifi device is there way to flash gsm version on it since i dont need phone function
[19:26] <Modna> I did a simple 'apt-get install xbmc' and we will see where that goes
[19:26] <zAo^2> Modna: thanks. Since you have SSH access, a `ps -ef` should reveal that, right?
[19:26] <odb36_> yes
[19:26] <helicopter88> I'm porting it to htc evo 3d
[19:26] <Yugge> Can't seem to make any call, is there anything I can do?
[19:26] <odb36_> there is a lot of traffic now
[19:26] <nocoast> cdimage.ubuntu.com
[19:26] <rmcsc> Modna: So, wait, you installed terminal? Pushed it from the pc?
[19:26] <nocoast> isnt relevant
[19:26] <odb36_> and downloads should be very slow
[19:26] <nocoast> right?
[19:26] <nocoast> there arent prebuilts?
[19:26] <generalsnus> Im guessing XDA devs are going bananas with this new toy of a code ^^
[19:26] <clbsfg> it take a long time to wait after flashed :(
[19:26] <nocoast> are there prebuitls?
[19:26] <robin-gloster_> Yugge have you got a pin on your sum?
[19:26] <nocoast> for nexus10?
[19:26] <nocoast> before i build from source
[19:26] <UbuntuHorn> anyone know if there is an ereader app available for ubuntu touch yet?
[19:26] <rmcsc> helicopter88: Good luck, man!
[19:26] <trompette> i want to test the new tablet UI on x86, is it possible?
[19:26] <guest28> I will try to install from OSX  to my nexus7
[19:26] <UbuntuHorn> kindle/nook/something else
[19:27] <rmcsc> Well, I gotta go. Be back later.
[19:27] <helicopter88> rmcsc, installing right now
[19:27] <rmcsc> Good luck to all!
[19:27] <EnErGy> hi guys. where i can find short instructions how to build image?
[19:27] <Yugge> robin-gloster_: 0000 only
[19:27] <rmcsc> helicopter88: Sweet!
[19:27] <fairct_> kaiser10123: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38294870&postcount=1315
[19:27] <Yugge> I need to deactivate that right?
[19:27] <hallofelix00> hi
[19:27] <ogra_> EnErGy, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Contribute
[19:27] <Modna> I will test '`ps -ef`' once this download is complete. Tethered to my phone at work so i'm only getting about 85 kb/s
[19:27] <Guest55600> anyone know how long to wait after the flash ? - i saw the google screen and nothing since
[19:27] <robin-gloster_> Yugge that won't work sadly, pins aren't supported right now
[19:27] <baaba> how do i kill an app?
[19:27] <robin-gloster_> Yugge right
[19:27] <Drooid> how do i take a screenshot
[19:27] <hallofelix00> I have a question : Where can I download ubuntu phone for NEXUS 4 ? Link
[19:28] <napster> baaba: Swap from bottom to top
[19:28] <rmcsc> baaba: swipe up, press x on hud
[19:28] <Modna> it does it in the ubuntu install process
[19:28] <rmcsc> out now, seriously.
[19:28] <Modna> you don't manually download the software
[19:28] <napster> Drooid: Do you have DDMS?
[19:28] <Drooid> DDMS?
[19:28] <baaba> hmm, doesn't do anything
[19:28] <napster> never mind
[19:28] <Drooid> ok
[19:28] <baaba> left->right hides the app but bottom->up nothing happens
[19:28] <Allexz> Hey guys, hope you dont mind another noob question in here, im quite new to ubuntu in general and when i sudo apt-get install phablet-tools i get the following error: The following packages have unmet dependencies:  phablet-tools : Depends: python-requests but it is not installable.... please halp =)
[19:28] <incomplete> I need help
[19:28] <baaba> oh now i got it
[19:29] <clbsfg> i still stuck at lock screen
[19:29] <baaba> for some reason it's not very reliable
[19:29] <Drooid> clbsfg~ swipe from right to left
[19:29] <incomplete> falshing always throws adbd cannot run as root in production builds
[19:29] <popey> Allexz: what version of ubuntu you on?
[19:29] <MacHorn> anyone else stuck on downloading quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip   ?
[19:29] <Scriptiz> Hello, does somebody have already installed Ubuntu on his nexus4 or nexus7 device? If so does it works fine?
[19:29] <KHendrik> Good Evening folks
[19:29] <IanWizard-Cloud> Allexz: ask in #ubuntu
[19:29] <Mark__> "failed to copy '/tmp/tmpz0COOW' to '/cache/recovery/command': Permission denied" Device is connected fine and adb root returns no errors. Even tried running phablet-flash as sudo. Any suggestions?
[19:29] <Allexz> popey. im using 12.04 desktop (live usb)
[19:29] <menelkir> MacHorn: its downloading here
[19:29] <redbmk> scriptiz: I have it on my nexus7
[19:29] <redbmk> can't connect to hidden wifi though
[19:30] <Bio__> Hi all, I am trying to put ubuntu on my nexus 7 and I have : Pushing /home/bio/Téléchargements/phablet-flash/95/quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip to /sdcard/autodeploy.zip
[19:30] <clbsfg> w00t!!!!
[19:30] <Scriptiz> Tanks, I'll thus try to install it on my Nexus7 now :)
[19:30] <clbsfg> really awesome!!@#@
[19:30] <Allexz> Thanks IanWizard-Cloud !
[19:30] <baaba> Bio__: keep waiting
[19:30] <KHendrik> Bio__, just wait for it
[19:30] <popey> Allexz: sudo apt-get update
[19:30] <IanWizard-Cloud> Allexz: np
[19:30] <Guest55600> clbsfg: how long did you have to wait ?
[19:30] <redbmk> and it seems i'm logged in as some random person - maybe one of the developers?
[19:30] <Bio__> ok thank you :)
[19:30] <MacHorn> menelkir, i'm stuck with
[19:30] <popey> Allexz: do that before trying to install phablet-tools
[19:30] <sergiusens> Mark__: you are missing the -b
[19:30] <Allexz> popey:  its done, no help.
[19:30] <Guest81693> Hy guys, does anyone know how to access another user account from lock screen, than the guest account? Thanks :)
[19:30] <MacHorn> Resolving cdimage.ubuntu.com (cdimage.ubuntu.com)... 91.189.92.168
[19:30] <MacHorn> Connecting to cdimage.ubuntu.com (cdimage.ubuntu.com)|91.189.92.168|:80... connected.
[19:30] <menelkir> MacHorn: maybe its because everyone is hammering the server :D
[19:31] <popey> Allexz: we don't really support live installs, but you can enable universe in software sources
[19:31] <Mark__> sergiusens: good point. :)
[19:31] <MacHorn> HTTP request sent, awaiting response...
[19:31] <MacHorn> menelkir, yeah...  weird that i can download the other files though
[19:31] <popey> Allexz: which would enable you to find the python-requests package
[19:31] <KHendrik> I have ubuntu touch running on my nexus 4 but now it is unreachable via adb ... can anyone help me fix this?
[19:31] <MacHorn> same if i go into a browser menelkir...  can click and download most of the files, just not that one that phablet-flash is stuck on
[19:31] <MacHorn> just sits forever
[19:31] <dasunsrule32> So do we need to get our vendor files ourselves?
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[19:32] <Allexz> popey:  would you be able to link to and or help me enable universe? :o
[19:32] <F41LB0t> how install
[19:32] <Noob-Bot> F41LB0t, The installation instructions are located at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
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[19:32] <menelkir> MacHorn: strange, cause ive tried to download some of them via browser to see if the speed increases, but im able to download via browser
[19:32] <redbmk> anybody know if there's a settings page or anything?
[19:32] <Mark__> sergiusens: I get "    The file is already fully retrieved; nothing to do.  quantal-preinstalled-system-armel+grouper.img: FAILED md5sum: WARNING: 1 computed checksum did NOT match" with -b. How can I clear the cache?
[19:32] <sergiusens> Mark__: without -b, if you already have recovery, do adb reboot and manually deploy through the menus
[19:32] <Bio__> for the "Pushing ...zip" I have to wait 10 ? 20 ? 40 minutes ?
[19:32] <zAo^2> Noob-Bot: but thats for Ubuntu hosts only :(
[19:32] <sergiusens> Mark__: bad download, delete the file
[19:32] <Modna> KHendrik - With my nexus 10 I often lose ADB whent the screen turns off, then I have to turn the screen on, unplig the device, and plug it back in
[19:32] <baaba> Bio__: vm on a slower machine took 20 minutes for me
[19:32] <popey> Allexz: I would recommend installing Ubuntu tbh, you're going to have other issues later on I imagine
[19:32] <Mark__> sergiusens: gotcha
[19:33] <F41LB0t> mmhm
[19:33] <baaba> Bio__: a faster machine did it in 2 minutes
[19:33] <popey> Allexz: like running out of disk space
[19:33] <Guest81693> Bio__: it work for me in great than 5 min.
[19:33] <KHendrik> Modna, I did that already a few times
[19:33] <Bio__> ok thanks
[19:33] <MacHorn> weird menelkir
[19:33] <ichbin_> allo
[19:33] <Allexz> popey:  I'm sure you're right, thanks alot for the help :]
[19:33] <dustyjam> can i install the image in recovery?
[19:33] <MacHorn> same for me on both my computers (mac and 12.10), so not the computer
[19:33] <MacHorn> and i know i can get to the site just fine
[19:33] <cm35> can we get the iso touch for a normal installation on a WeTab?
[19:33] <MacHorn> just not that file
[19:33] <ichbin_> so, I've got the nexus 10, is Touch the one I want, or is there one coming out soon for tablets specifically
[19:33] <robin-gloster_> mhall119: ubuntu-sdk on raring still broken?
[19:33] <lollllllllllllll> Where can i download UUbuntu phone for Nexus 4 ???
[19:33]  * MacHorn is a sad panda
[19:33] <Guest55600> how long did you guys have to wait after the google screen (basically black screen of death) ?
[19:33] <smojica> how long does it take to boot for the first time
[19:34] <popey> lollllllllllllll: see the topic
[19:34] <Guest55600> same question!
[19:34] <smojica> lol
[19:34] <CrSeth> can i install this through a custom recovery?
[19:34] <F41L> zAo^, where's the windows installation instructions?
[19:34] <dustyjam> can i install the image in recovery?
[19:34] <yefim323> nope, fastboot
[19:34] <skynyrd> Runs well but at the moment is completely unusable :-)
[19:34] <step2> do i need to be in the bootloader to deploy the image?
[19:34] <robin-gloster_> popey nice one ;)
[19:34] <popey> ☺
[19:34] <zAo^2> F41L: lol, they dont exist I guess.. I'm on Arch and Mac OSX, so I'm waiting too
[19:35] <doomlord> but is this useable as a target for development :)
[19:35] <EnErGy> ogra_ already looked on this, android layer is mostly cyangogen, where is ubuntu phone source code, and how to build it?
[19:35] <Guest81693> h
[19:35] <Modna> If I plug my N10 into a screen with a mouse and keyboard, should I see the full Ubuntu desktop?
[19:35] <droidfreek> could someone tell me what partitions are affected by the installation?
[19:35] <davidJFulde> hey all!
[19:35] <dmj_nova> what's the keyboard being used in ubuntu phone?
[19:35] <ericvh> hmmm..just tried running phablet-flash -- apparently there is already a new image update because it downloaded a new quantal-preinstalled...zip
[19:35] <zAo^2> welcom davidJFulde
[19:35] <Rick_> if I flash my phone, will I still be able to send/receive email and browse web (considering that things go well, and I reconfigure my email)
[19:35] <ogra_> EnErGy, the UI you mean ?
[19:35] <MarcoM> does anyone know if thers's a settings screen or something adaptiv?
[19:36] <zAo^2> MarcoM: like the right top?
[19:36] <EnErGy> ogra_ yes, everything that runs on top of it
[19:36] <MarcoM> i could only use the guest account..
[19:36] <Bio__> still pushing the zip file :(
[19:36] <davidJFulde> Rick_ you will be able to send/recieve email through the Gmail webapp, and there is a browser as well. The keyboard is pretty crap
[19:36] <der> does somebody know if you can already install ubuntu for android (eg on the galaxy s3) to use the "convergence" desktop ?
[19:36] <ogra_> EnErGy, https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity/phablet is the UI
[19:36] <MarcoM> no something like, creating new accounts, delete existing one, ..
[19:37] <lollllllllllllll> Where can i download Ubuntu phone for Nexus 4 ???
[19:37] <smojica> still waiting
[19:37] <yefim323> what is the package manager like?
[19:37] <oneadvent> verizon galaxy nexus image -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2159515
[19:37] <F41LB0t> oneadvent, The installation instructions (from Ubuntu) are located at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[19:37] <yefim323> do we get all of apt-get?
[19:37] <zAo^2> der: I dont know if the desktop works, bot it will only run on Nexus devices
[19:37] <popey> lollllllllllllll: see the last link in the topic
[19:37] <dasunsrule32> lollllllllllllll: /topic
[19:37] <doomlord> will ubuntu-phone/tablet support something like USB mass storage mode ...connect cable and browse its filesystem from a PC
[19:37] <davidJFulde> @lollllllllllllll I believe it is a few days away
[19:37] <meetingology> davidJFulde: Error: "lollllllllllllll" is not a valid command.
[19:37] <davidJFulde> lollllllllllllllL I believe it's a few days away
[19:37] <helicopter88> what kind of logs I can take on ubuntu os?
[19:38] <popey> davidJFulde: nope, see the /topic
[19:38] <CrSeth> guys I get an error. after running phablet-flash. It says make sure your device is connected and has root. It has both. When i do "adb devices" is appears and "adb root" says adb is in root
[19:38] <Bio__> yeah it works :) I have Ubuntu on my Nexus 4
[19:38] <vinay427> same!
[19:38] <redwan> is your android version 4.22?
[19:38] <yefim323> you mean 4.2.2?
[19:38] <der> my android id 4.1.2
[19:38] <redwan> y
[19:38] <davidJFulde> also: There is a pretty risky error is N4 right now: if the battery dies, you may need to completely reseat the battery to get it to turn on again (which involves taking the phone apart)
[19:38] <der> version sorry
[19:39] <KHendrik> ok if anyone else has problems with adb not finding your device avoid usb 3.0 ports use 2.x
[19:39] <josh__> Does the device need to be rooted for install or just unlocked?
[19:39] <bobweaver> Hello there I am haveing some troubles removing some older repos for qt5 I was wondering if I could get some help. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1701133/     I just want the new proper one thanks
[19:39] <MarcoM> zAo^2: no something like, creating new accounts, delete existing one, .. inho the guest account does not offer much functionality
[19:39] <KHendrik> josh__, just unlocked
[19:39] <KHendrik> josh__, root is os specific
[19:39] <redwan> 2 questions^ how one can close an app in ubuntu touch 2) where is the options menu?
[19:39] <josh__> I keep getting this error
[19:40] <josh__> Starting new HTTP connection (1): cdimage.ubuntu.com Download directory set to /home/administrator/Downloads/phablet-flash/95 error: device not found Error while excetuting adb shell getprop ro.cm.device  Make sure the device is connected and viewable by running 'adb devices' Ensure you have a root device, one which running 'adb root' does not return an error
[19:40] <DeineMudda> Hi
[19:40] <tester22> can anyone help me with step.4 in getting android back "Extract the downloaded file and chdir into the extracted directory. " I dont know what chdir means. And I cant seem to execute flash-all.sh in the terminal. any tips?
[19:40] <KHendrik> redwan, slide up from lower edge in the menu press x
[19:40] <redwan> josh__ whats your android and adb versions?
[19:40] <Endox> josh__ do you have usb debugging on?
[19:40] <lollllllllllllll> Where can i download ubuntu phone on this link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch
[19:40] <davidJFulde> redwan to close an ap swipe up from the bottom of the screen with the app open, and bring your thumb to the little magnifying glass. that is your options (Mostly placeholder for now it seems) as well as a little 'x' for quitting the app :)
[19:40] <josh__> 4.2.1 on a nexus 7
[19:40] <KHendrik> tester22, navigate into the directory -> chdir == change directory
[19:41] <der> sorry i have to repeat my question, as ive seen, you can also install ubuntu besides android (ubuntu for android). can you get that especially on the galaxy s3 ?
[19:41] <Modna> Is there a way to make software installed via ssh show up on the main applications page?
[19:41] <redjax> Hello! Trying to flash Ubuntu on my Nexus 7, and I'm getting the error "Unsupported device, autodetect fails device" after the input "phablet-flash -b." I'm running Paranoid Android, based on Anroid 4.1.1, and have enabled USB debugging. Do I need to be on stock?
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[19:41] <josh__> I do, but now the system won't boot, just a lock icon
[19:41] <d05513> Is there a way to get the releas on a nexus 7 Tilapia?
[19:41] <CrSeth> yes looks like it is finally working! <3
[19:41] <CrSeth> just had to change usb ports
[19:42] <redjax> My device is the Nexus 7 Nakasi, Wifi version by the way
[19:42] <ajalkane> Hi, is the channel too excited about the image release, or is there some SDK people out there? I can't use C++ QML plugins. I have tried creating in QtCreator a "helloplugin" and "helloubuntu" projects. Now when I try to use the plugin in I get an error. Example: qmlscene -I helloplugin-build-Desktop-Debug helloubuntu/helloubuntu.qmlfile:///home/arto/coding/helloubuntu/helloubuntu.qml:2 module "com.mycompany.qmlcomponents" is 
[19:42] <lollllllllllllll> Where can i download ubuntu phone on this link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch
[19:42] <davidJFulde> Josh__ there is not boot animation ATM. give it a minute or two
[19:42] <ajalkane> What am I doing wrong? Am I understanding qmlscene -I parameter wrong?
[19:42] <davidJFulde> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install  <--- use that link
[19:42] <Neo31> hello
[19:42] <napster> good night guys. I just fell in love with ub-phone :)
[19:43] <davidJFulde> night napster
[19:43] <Modna> Where will software installed via SSH run or where does it show up?
[19:43] <F41LB0t> Modna, The installation instructions (from Ubuntu) are located at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[19:43] <redbmk> lollllllllllllll: right at the top it says "Install Ubuntu Touch Developer Preview"
[19:43] <redjax> [FIXED?] Nexus 7 WiFi-Nakasi command "phablet-flash" without "-b" seems to have done the trick. Thank you.
[19:43] <Modna> No, I installed the OS, I am asking about now software I installed within the tablet
[19:43] <tester22> KHendrik, im sorry to be a noob. Do you mean in the terminal? like the good old cd (foldername) thing? what is the ubuntu command for that?
[19:43] <Modna> while ssh'd into it
[19:43] <davidJFulde> I'm excited to see what the guys at SDA can do!
[19:43] <lollllllllllllll> And where can I download it ???
[19:43] <F41LB0t> lollllllllllllll, The installation instructions (from Ubuntu) are located at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[19:44] <KHendrik> KHendrik, yes and the linux command is cd as well
[19:44] <adsamcik> is there any way how to take a screenshot?
[19:44] <F41LB0t> adsamcik, The installation instructions (from Ubuntu) are located at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[19:44] <jyunderwood> Anyone else have an issue with the screen staying on '14 tweets received' after flashing? I'm on a nexus 7, the flashing appears to have worked, and the time updates, but the screen won't respond to touches
[19:44] <yefim323> so, about the package manager, is it still apt-get on the phone?
[19:44] <lollllllllllllll> I know how to install but not how to download
[19:44] <F41LB0t> lollllllllllllll, The installation instructions (from Ubuntu) are located at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[19:44] <KHendrik> KHendrik, why am i writing myself
[19:44] <jyunderwood> I never even setup wifi or twitter so the tweets thing is a mystery
[19:44] <mizifih> You guys using ubuntu phone on you nexus'?
[19:44] <yefim323> does the ubuntu phone have apt-get?
[19:44] <lollllllllllllll> Or where to download
[19:44] <josh__> So if I leave it on the lock screen it will eventually boot?
[19:44] <yefim323> jesus christ
[19:45] <ogra_> yefim323, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes
[19:45] <KHendrik> jyunderwood, it is a developer preview that is dummy data
[19:45] <mizifih> Can you guys tell me if I can import my contacts from Google to Ubuntu phone?
[19:45] <popey> lollllllllllllll: follow the instructions.. it wil download it
[19:45] <lollllllllllllll> ???
[19:45] <Endox> josh__ swipe from the right
[19:45] <jyunderwood> I figured it was dummy data.
[19:45] <yefim323> ogra_, thank you
[19:45] <Modna> lollllllllllllll, you dont download it. Run the commands in a terminal as seen on the isntructions page. it will automatically download the files and install them to your phone or tablet
[19:45] <lollllllllllllll> ok
[19:45] <popey> lollllllllllllll: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/quantal/mwc-demo/
[19:45] <Allexz> popey:  Got past universe etc, decided to take a chance, downloading phablet atm :)
[19:45] <lollllllllllllll> ok
[19:45] <josh__> The lock screen says Google, not the Ubuntu screen
[19:45] <F41L> Wow, I made that bot real fast, and it's already getting hits on the keyword :D
[19:45] <lollllllllllllll> spam
[19:45] <lollllllllllllll> spam
[19:45] <lollllllllllllll> spam
[19:45] <lollllllllllllll> spam
[19:45] <Endox> oh i see
[19:45] <lollllllllllllll> spam
[19:45] <lollllllllllllll> spam
[19:45] <lollllllllllllll> spam
[19:45] <lollllllllllllll> spam
[19:45] <lollllllllllllll> spam
[19:45] <lollllllllllllll> spam
[19:45] <lollllllllllllll> spam
[19:45] <lollllllllllllll> spam
[19:45] <lollllllllllllll> spamspam
[19:45] <lollllllllllllll> spam
[19:45] <lollllllllllllll> spam
[19:46] <F41L> getshiton
[19:46] <popey> not lol
[19:46] <waa> no more
[19:46] <mizifih> ok...
[19:46] <CrSeth> how long does that boot up take? It has been on black screen for like 4min.. -.-
[19:46] <F41LB0t> CrSeth, The installation instructions (from Ubuntu) are located at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[19:46] <mizifih> i'll repeat my question due to spam
[19:46] <adsamcik> us there any way to take a screenshot?
[19:46] <baaba> so is it intentional that i appear to have the phonebook of a "lola chang" on the phone?
[19:46] <Modna> F41L, is it possible to run software installed via SSH?
[19:46] <zKarp1> aww I like spam =(\
[19:46] <dmj_nova> mhall119: curious, what is the keyboard being used in the preview image?
[19:46] <mizifih> Can I sync my contacts with Google?
[19:46] <tester22> KHendrik how do I navigate to a folder in the terminal?
[19:46] <F41LB0t> tester22, The installation instructions (from Ubuntu) are located at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[19:46] <davidJFulde> mizifih you can, I believe, but it's not simple. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes is how
[19:46] <d05513> Is there a way to get it on a nexus 7 Tilapia?
[19:46] <F41LB0t> davidJFulde, The installation instructions (from Ubuntu) are located at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[19:46] <mizifih> I mean, using Ubuntu Phone?
[19:46] <mizifih> davidJFulde: thanks
[19:47] <F41L> lol I think it's a bit overzealous on the regex
[19:47] <davidJFulde> F4ILB0t I know :P I'm already running it :D
[19:47] <tester22> F41LB0t, I am stuck at step.4
[19:47] <F41L> it's a bot
[19:47] <doomlord> what device does it  work best on n4,n7,n10
[19:47] <mizifih> davidJFulde: csv file is simple
[19:47] <josh__> Endox Is there a way around this? Do you accept? [yes|no] yes Starting new HTTP connection (1): cdimage.ubuntu.com Download directory set to /home/administrator/Downloads/phablet-flash/95 error: device not found Error while excetuting adb shell getprop ro.cm.device  Make sure the device is connected and viewable by running 'adb devices' Ensure you have a root device, one which running 'adb root' does not return an error
[19:47] <KHendrik> tester22, "cd ~/Downloads/"               ~ is your home directory
[19:47] <AaronMT> adb devices wont show my phone despite me adding udev rules, help
[19:47] <zKarp1> Im gonna love this if they implementt syncing between my ubuntu's. Having same programs and data on my computer and tablet.. I'd be in heaven
[19:47] <F41L> designed to respond to people saying key words to link the install wiki
[19:48] <davidJFulde> mizifih let me rephrase: not as simple as it it on other OS' :P
[19:48] <CrSeth> how long does it take to boot? it has been black screen for like 5min now
[19:48] <d05513> Does anyone here know how to get it on a nexus 7 Tilapia?
[19:48] <Endox> josh__ I got that error but it was due to disabled USB debugging
[19:48] <clbsfg> ok, now i have a dev phone ;)
[19:48] <clbsfg> nexus 4
[19:48] <energoboter> I can`not get a connection to gsm network on galaxy nexus,has anyone an idea ?
[19:48] <KHendrik> mizifih, no sync yet just dummy data afaik
[19:48] <wastrel> clbsfg: how did you do that?
[19:49] <josh__> Endox How do I enable it again if the Android system isn't there anymore?
[19:49] <clbsfg> wastrel: did you flash ?
[19:49] <j_> I'm trying to get the desktop environment set up... added the repo... run apt-get update, then try to install the packages but get: E: Package 'android-tools-adb' has no installation candidate E: Package 'android-tools-fastboot' has no installation candidate
[19:49] <Allexz> @fastboot now :O :D
[19:49] <wastrel> i didn't do anything i'm at work
[19:50] <meetingology> Allexz: Error: "fastboot" is not a valid command.
[19:50] <tester22> KHendrik, found it, so easy with that info xD thanks a million, but its stuck at "waiting for device" now :S
[19:50] <Allexz>  im at fastboot now :O wee
[19:50] <baaba> j_: apt-get update?
[19:50] <davidJFulde> GTG. I'm going to go make a tutorial on how to navigate the UI
[19:50] <wastrel> clbsfg: i thought you meant you got a new handset
[19:50] <baaba> oh right you did, nevermind
[19:50] <redbmk> d05513 did you try the instructions online?
[19:50] <j_> yes. did that.
[19:50] <baaba> j_: which ubuntu version are you running?
[19:51] <j_> 13.04
[19:51] <odb36_> you can do the review on the new Ubuntu Phone forum - http://www.uposforum.com/
[19:51] <darkdragon001> how can I move files to my ubuntu phone I currently installed?
[19:51] <Endox> josh__ well, try to restart the device into the recovery mode and try again there
[19:51] <KHendrik> tester22, try the command with sudo upfront
[19:51] <d05513> redbmk i tried that, but it told me :Device detected as tilapia Unsupported device, autodetect fails device
[19:51] <clbsfg> wastrel: i have it, running very smooth but of course it lack of native apps
[19:51] <clbsfg> but fine to dev/test/debug :D
[19:51] <guvery> is it possible to start up desktop applications. ie I installed firefox. the only issue with starting it up is that I dont have a display specified
[19:51] <tester22> KHendrik, oh right, I forgot that one, Ill try again
[19:51] <d05513> redbmk it is just a nexus 7
[19:52] <KHendrik> tester22, yeah i forgot that too the first try
[19:52] <Jaszczomp> hi all. I was deploying image on my galaxy nexus and after "green robot" with progress bar under it i have black screen. i can access adb shell, but i see nothing on my nexus.
[19:53] <Allexz> omg its running :D
[19:53] <redbmk> d05513 whats the difference between tilapia and grouper? what version of the n7 do you have? 8gb,16gb,32gb, wifi, 3g?
[19:53] <Allexz> Jaszczomp:  i just booted it for the first time on NExus4 and it took just about... 10 sec to load
[19:53] <d05513> redbmk So i wondered if there is a way to get it on there right now.
[19:53] <d05513> redbmk 32 3G
[19:53] <PiZZaMartijn> hmm calling doesnt work
[19:54] <PiZZaMartijn> the call button doesn't do anything
[19:54] <ogra_> PiZZaMartijn, you need an unlocked SIM
[19:54] <PiZZaMartijn> how do i unlock it?
[19:54] <dasunsrule32> Are there issues with flashing maguro?
[19:54] <ogra_> SIMs with PIN wont work
[19:54] <Allexz> wow, this runs smooth as hell on Nexus4
[19:54] <PiZZaMartijn> ah ok
[19:54] <popey> Allexz: yay
[19:54] <guest28> With my nexus7 I've this message : writing 'radio'... FAILED (remote: (BadParameter))
[19:54] <tester22> KHendrik, I think it started now  :D Tack som fan! thanks
[19:54] <Allexz> popey:  <3 i couldnt help myself so i tried until i got it working :D
[19:54] <clbsfg> Allexz: congrats ! :D
[19:55] <clbsfg> me too!!
[19:55] <Tom__> any news on this error? W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/phablet-team/tools/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[19:55] <Jaszczomp> Allexz:I've just rebooted my phone, nothing happened. Still black screen.
[19:55] <tusing> hello?
[19:55] <Tom__> how can i get past it
[19:55] <dlq84> Jaszczomp: same here, going back to android now.
[19:55] <DeineMudda> Is there any intsalling method for Windows (7)????
[19:55] <Mad_Gouki> trying to do this with ubuntu as a vmware client, anyone know if this won't work?
[19:55] <energoboter> ogra thanks !
[19:55] <dustyjam> are my pictures and other stuff away when i flash ubuntu?
[19:55] <Mad_Gouki> DeineMudda: dunno, I'm trying it now using vmware
[19:55] <curiouso9> Waiting for HTC One X International Edition
[19:55] <redbmk> d05513 not sure - you hadn't put a custom rom on there or anything before? maybe they haven't set it up for tilapia yet
[19:55] <KHendrik> tester22, your welcome
[19:55] <KHendrik> tester22, you're welcome
[19:55] <Tom__> Any help please
[19:55] <Tom__> or can i do this on mac or windows?
[19:55] <d05513> redbmk thanks
[19:56] <ogra_> Tom__, there are no packages for oneiric
[19:56] <dustyjam> are my pictures and other stuff away when i flash ubuntu?
[19:56] <Tom__> but its in the tutorial?
[19:56] <n8behavior> any reason not to buy the unlock Nexus 4 from Google as a test phone?
[19:56] <Allexz> Huh, i think i just found my first bug on Ubuntu mobile :P When i press the comma button on the keyboard i get backwardslash instead
[19:56] <F41L> They get deleted, dustyjam, backup first.
[19:56] <KHendrik> dustyjam, yes every thing will be deleted
[19:56] <ogra_> Tom__, only precise (12.04) and upwards
[19:56] <Mad_Gouki> dustyjam: yeah, back up that stuff
[19:56] <dustyjam> ok :)
[19:56] <Tom__> what do you mean?
[19:56] <Tom__> how can i flash my nexus7 without the tools?
[19:56] <F41LB0t> Tom__, The installation instructions (from Ubuntu) are located at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[19:57] <areisp> will ubuntu wipe all my data located at /sdcard? i mean photos, nand backups, etcetera... i have unlocked bootloader. galaxy nexus
[19:57] <Tom__> The PPA has the tools and dependencies to support Precise, Quantal and Raring. Add the Ubuntu Touch PPA by adding the following custom source list entry to your /etc/apt/sources.list file.  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:phablet-team/tools  Then do the following:  sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install phablet-tools android-tools-adb android-tools-fastboot
[19:57] <KHendrik> dustyjam, and there is no dual boot so you don't wanna flash your daily driver
[19:57] <Tom__> then i get the error
[19:57] <florexus> hi, when i run adb root it says the device is offline. im using UBuntu 12.04
[19:57] <DeineMudda> Is there any installing method for Windows (7) for magruo takju WITHOUT VM/VB???
[19:57] <Tom__> can i add a different source?
[19:57] <florexus> hi, when i run adb root it says the device is offline. im using UBuntu 12.04
[19:57] <tusing> hello - i need help - the last message I got was <waiting for device> and i have a green android on my screen with "start"
[19:58] <tusing> what do I do?
[19:58] <Tom__> please some help..
[19:58] <guest28> You know why I've error when I writing radio on nexus 7 ?
[19:58] <DeineMudda> Is there nobody?
[19:58] <pmcgowan> Tom__: there are no oneiric builds
[19:58] <ogra_> Tom__, because you are neither on precise nor on quantal or raring you can not use the tools,
[19:58] <tusing> hello - i need help - the last message I got was <waiting for device> and i have a green android on my screen with "start"
[19:58] <tusing> galaxy nexus ^^
[19:59] <KHendrik> DeineMudda, not that i know of
[19:59] <ogra_> Tom__, you would need to upgrade
[19:59] <tusing> do i press the power button?
[19:59] <clbsfg> tusing: did you get unlock bootloader ?
[19:59] <florexus> Im getting tis error flong@ubuntu:~$ adb root adbd cannot run as root in production builds
[19:59] <tusing> yes
[19:59] <tusing> it was already unlocked
[19:59] <Guest47489> i lost my warranty if i install it on nexus 7?
[19:59] <KHendrik> tusing try usind sudo
[19:59] <DeineMudda> Thank you for an answer ; ) Finally
[19:59] <florexus> bootloader is unlocked
[19:59] <tusing> but the last thing my terminal said was <waiting for device>
[19:59] <pmcgowan> florexus: is the device unlocked with usb debug enabled
[19:59] <Jaszczomp> anyone had the black screen after deploying?
[19:59] <markqvist_> You will loose your warranty. Also the one on your car. Also, everything will be deleted when you flash this, including random parts of your house. Thats just the price you pay for stuff like this.
[19:59] <tusing> and it says lock-state unlocked
[20:00] <florexus> yes devices us unlocked
[20:00] <tusing> but nothing else on terminal
[20:00] <Time2303> It's like ripping off those labels that say 'do not remove'
[20:00] <freesoul> i have black screen after reboot on nexus 7
[20:00] <josh____> why are someone elses contacts on here? lol
[20:00] <KHendrik> tusing cancel your command and try it again with sudo
[20:00] <pmcgowan> florexus: enabled developer mode and usb debug?
[20:00] <ericvh> when going into the device with adb shell to try and find out what's going wrong, ubuntu_chroot shell can't find the /data/ubuntu directory -- it's like the chroot fs was never installed (or never mounted?)
[20:00] <florexus> yes. and it is rooted
[20:00] <tusing> KHendrik: how do i cancel my command?
[20:00] <KHendrik> ctrl + c
[20:00] <florexus> im on 4.2.2
[20:01] <DeineMudda> One Questionare my Clockwork Mod BACKUPS also going to be deleted???
[20:01] <freesoul> i have black screen after reboot on nexus 7, any help?
[20:01] <ericvh> freesoul: several of us are having the same problem on nexus7, doesn't seem to be working, black screen after reboot.  you can get into it with adb, but I haven't made much progress on trying to figure out what went south.
[20:01] <Mark__> freesoul: Same here. I'm fighting hard to just leave it alone
[20:01] <krock> hi
[20:01] <Mad_Gouki> ok so I can confirm the device can be accessed by a vmware ubuntu guest OS
[20:01] <Time2303> hello
[20:01] <josh____> thats sad guys :( it works fine on the gnex!
[20:02] <pmcgowan> freesoul: ericvh did you have android installed before or ubuntu?
[20:02] <tusing> KHendrik: i am on 4.2.2 if that has anything to do with it
[20:02] <florexus> root@ubuntu:~# adb devices List of devices attached  015d188427101605	device
[20:02] <krock> anna@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install phablet-tools android-tools-adb android-tools-fastboot Lettura elenco dei pacchetti... Fatto Generazione albero delle dipendenze        Lettura informazioni sullo stato... Fatto E: Impossibile trovare il pacchetto phablet-tools E: Impossibile trovare il pacchetto android-tools-adb E: Impossibile trovare il pacchetto android-tools-fastboot
[20:02] <krock> i have a problem
[20:02] <Time2303> I'm in class at the moment, have to wait till I can try it on my Nexus 4.
[20:02] <KHendrik> ahh ok did you do adb kill-server and adb start-server? that is required in 4.2.2
[20:02] <DeineMudda> One Question.  Are my Clockwork Mod BACKUPS also going to be deleted???
[20:02] <florexus> wait its downloading now
[20:03] <Mad_Gouki> DeineMudda: probably?
[20:03] <F41L> Did someone have the windows installation instructions up yet?
[20:03] <redbmk> krock did you run "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:phablet-team/tools" first?
[20:03] <Time2303> DeineMudda, probably best to copy them off just in case.
[20:03] <dustyjam> after installing ubuntu, can i install android with recovery mode?
[20:03] <tusing> Pushing /home/user/Downloads/phablet-flash/95/quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip to /sdcard/autodeploy.zip        << how long should this take
[20:03] <rsalveti> DeineMudda: better safe than sorry, copy them first
[20:03] <F41LB0t> tusing, The installation instructions (from Ubuntu) are located at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[20:03] <ProGEEK> morning folks
[20:03] <mhall119> robin-gloster_: the ubuntu-sdk package is being fixed, waiting on anothe round of builds to land
[20:03] <DeineMudda> Ok
[20:03] <tusing> F41LB0t: already followd those
[20:03] <rsalveti> tusing: adb can get stuck easily
[20:03] <KHendrik> tusing, mine took around 10 minutes
[20:03] <rsalveti> pkill adb
[20:03] <rsalveti> try again
[20:03] <Time2303> dustyjam, there is information for recovering android on the wiki.
[20:03] <rsalveti> use adb shell
[20:03] <ericvh> someone worked around the nexus7 problem by manual install: http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Liliputing/~3/RKjJ9hpIb6Q/how-to-install-ubuntu-touch-on-a-nexus-7-with-windows-mac-or-linux.html
[20:03] <F41LB0t> ericvh, The installation instructions (from Ubuntu) are located at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[20:03] <rsalveti> and see if the files are increasing side at the android side
[20:04] <rsalveti> at /sdcard/
[20:04] <ericvh> F41LB0t: those are the instrucitons which get me to the black screen
[20:04] <DeineMudda> Still installing Ubuntu (Desktop) for 1 hour it is half way trough installing
[20:04] <tusing> i have a custom rom and TWRP custom recovery
[20:04] <tusing> would that affect it?
[20:04] <clbsfg> is it possible to use ssh to device ?
[20:05] <florexus> @tusing no
[20:05] <meetingology> florexus: Error: "tusing" is not a valid command.
[20:05] <BlackFang171> does anyone know where Ubuntu calls on wpa_supplicant.conf? it does not seem to use the one in /etc/wifi or in /data/misc/wifi
[20:05] <florexus> #tusing . no
[20:05] <Allexz> Well it sure does look sweet
[20:05] <rsalveti> BlackFang171: uses network manager
[20:05] <fuhgawz89> buenas tardes, hay soporte en español?
[20:06] <tusing> must i flash the zip using the custom recovery?
[20:06] <tusing> or should it auto-flash?
[20:06] <freesoul> i will try re-install, maybe this time black screen won't appear
[20:06] <rsalveti> fuhgawz89: sergiusens ^
[20:06] <rsalveti> :-)
[20:06] <florexus> #tusing what do you mean zip?
[20:06] <Tak> good question - is any non-english language supported?
[20:07] <krock> yes i hadded it but notthing changed
[20:07] <markqvist_> tak: I dont think you should count on languages other than english for now
[20:07] <fuhgawz89> gracias
[20:07] <shane_> hi all
[20:07] <F41L> Does anyone have the windows installation instructions up officially yet?
[20:07] <markqvist_> this is in no way a production build, not even beta, hardly alpha ;)
[20:07] <Tak> fuhgawz89: lo siento
[20:07] <shane_> so...
[20:07] <ogra_> markqvist_, no, its a demo
[20:07] <shane_> very new to ubunto and I am trying to follow along with the directions
[20:07] <markqvist_> ogra, exactly
[20:08] <shane_> I installed ubuntu on a vm
[20:08] <rsalveti> well, not a demo, more of a developer preview :-)
[20:08] <Allexz> F41L:  you could install it via Ubuntu Live USB/CD, worked fine for me with a lil tinkering
[20:08] <shane_> but I am stuck at step 1
[20:08] <DeineMudda> Why can´t Ubuntu support Windows!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[20:08] <shane_> anyone know what to do?
[20:08] <rsalveti> it might have later, just not now
[20:08] <Alistair> It says we get "Shell and core applications" does anyone know if we get the UI or just a shell?
[20:08] <Time2303> DeineMudda, why would they for a developer release?
[20:08] <Tassadar> "Why can´t Ubuntu support Windows!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" quote of the year)
[20:08] <rryder> will it erase all user data or just sysem  data?
[20:08] <ulkesh_> is there an IRC channel for the ubuntu touch SDK? (or is this one it?)
[20:08] <markqvist_> For those wondering, if you have some sort of custom recovery installed, you can just flash the files through that
[20:08] <juicyjones> shane_: ubuntu phone or regular desktop ubuntu?
[20:08] <F41L> Allexz, I'm just asking so I can put a link up on the auto-responder bot
[20:08] <Brandon> hello?
[20:08] <Time2303> hello
[20:08] <F41L> hi
[20:08] <Allexz> F41L:  oops :)
[20:08] <Brandon> im having a prob
[20:08] <tusing> DeineMudda: because it's ubuntu - just get VirtualBox
[20:08] <shane_> trying on nexus 10
[20:09] <Time2303> Brandon, everyone keeps saying that.
[20:09] <Guest26542> i cant get insalled because
[20:09] <markqvist_> Copy the images from ubuntu/osx/windows/dos/whatever and flash through TWRP for example
[20:09] <DeineMudda> Yeah you´re right
[20:09] <markqvist_> works fine :)
[20:09] <Guest26542> it ays i dont have root even though i do
[20:09] <juicyjones> shane_: it's only going to work on N4 or GNex I think
[20:09] <krock> can anyone help me?
[20:09] <bongo> hey all---where do we get a flashable ZIP version to just flash in recovery?
[20:09] <F41LB0t> bongo, The installation instructions (from Ubuntu) are located at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[20:09] <mfsr98> with what?
[20:09] <shane_> it says it supports the manta
[20:09] <Mad_Gouki> what does step 3.4 mean? "Save the version of the current image on the device"... just write it down?
[20:09] <markqvist_> bongo, there is already a flashable version for recovery
[20:09] <mfsr98> I think its saving on your PC
[20:09] <shane_> im stuck at the first prompt sudo add-apt-repository...
[20:09] <redbmk> yea just write it down
[20:09] <Mad_Gouki> k
[20:10] <markqvist_> just flash the system image for your device, then the phablet image
[20:10] <bongo> markqvist_ where do I get it from?
[20:10] <Time2303> Mad_Gouki, yep, just save it in a text file
[20:10] <mhall119> shane_: what error are you getting?
[20:10] <florexus> yes! finally it's half way now!
[20:10] <shane_> it gives me an error pp:phablet.... invalid
[20:10] <Mad_Gouki> alright, I emailed it to myself :D
[20:10] <markqvist_> just a sec, i'll get you a link
[20:10] <mfsr98> ah ok lol
[20:10] <bongo> thanks dude!
[20:10] <mhall119> shane_: should be ppa: not pp:
[20:10] <markqvist_> bongo, what device do you have?
[20:10] <redbmk> shane_ what version of ubuntu are you on?
[20:10] <shane_> Error: 'pp:phablet-team/tools' invalid
[20:10] <shane_> oh
[20:10] <jkb_> hello everyone, somebody know if this will run on a AVD, too
[20:10] <bongo> mako and grouper
[20:10] <bongo> sorry---n4 and n7
[20:11] <ogra_> jkb_, it will run on everyting someone ports it too :)
[20:11] <Alistair> Do we NEED the ADT installed to flash it?
[20:11] <F41L> bool MatchesQuestion(IrcEventArgs e) { return ((e.Data.Message.Contains("how") || e.Data.Message.Contains("where")) && (e.Data.Message.Contains("install") || e.Data.Message.Contains("flash") || e.Data.Message.Contains("image") || e.Data.Message.Contains("download")));}
[20:11] <F41LB0t> F41L, The installation instructions (from Ubuntu) are located at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[20:11] <krock> i have an error! impossible to find the package
[20:11] <F41L> any proposed modifications to that logic? :D
[20:11] <markqvist_> cool. grab "quantal-preinstalled-armel+grouper.zip" and "quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip"  from here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/quantal/mwc-demo/ and flash the device-specific file first, then the phablet one
[20:12] <Skyshayde> Anyone tried ubuntu touch with MultiROM Nexus 7 yet?
[20:12] <bongo> thanks!
[20:12] <markqvist_> bongo, obviously you need "uantal-preinstalled-armel+mako.zip" for the mako ;)
[20:12] <krock> CAN SOME ONE HELP MEEE
[20:12] <markqvist_> Skyshayde, it's not possible at the moment, had a quick go at it
[20:13] <F41L> what, krock?
[20:13] <Skyshayde> Ah.  Oh, well
[20:13] <bongo> so i need to flash those for grouper, thought?
[20:13] <markqvist_> Skyshayde, the developer of multirom is apparently working on it atm
[20:13] <bongo> the grouper one and the phablet one?
[20:13] <krock> i have this error Lettura elenco dei pacchetti... Fatto Generazione albero delle dipendenze        Lettura informazioni sullo stato... Fatto E: Impossibile trovare il pacchetto phablet-tools E: Impossibile trovare il pacchetto android-tools-adb E: Impossibile trovare il pacchetto android-tools-fastboot
[20:13] <Skyshayde> k, I'll just wait then
[20:13] <Skyshayde> thanks anyway
[20:13] <guest28> Somebody have checking product... FAILED
[20:13] <guest28> ?
[20:13] <Time2303> What language is that?
[20:13] <markqvist_> I don't think it's too much of a hassle to get going
[20:13] <Alistair> markqvist_: Flashing img to boot loader and the zip in recovery?
[20:13] <ulkesh> is there an IRC channel for the ubuntu touch SDK? (or is this one it?)
[20:13] <F41L> looks like italian
[20:13] <alo21> hi all... I can't install ubuntu on my nexus, because I can't set usb debug mode
[20:13] <DeineMudda> What is the downloadlink for it?
[20:13] <robin-gloster_> mhall119 thx
[20:14] <kv_> Anyone know when Nexus 7 tilapia will be supported?
[20:14] <Tak> "Cannot find package"
[20:14] <F41L> alo21, what phone/android version?
[20:14] <ogra_> ulkesh, well, usually its this channel ... until it exploded today :)
[20:14] <krock> I have Gnex Maguro
[20:14] <jkb_> well, i don't have a nex in my pocket so you'd say it'll be much effort, haven't delt with android or phone emus so far
[20:14] <Alistair> Tak: sudo apt-get update
[20:14] <markqvist_> Alistair, get both zip files and flash them both in TWRP recovery (or whatever you have handy) that way, you wont lose your custom recovery and can easily revert via backup to android
[20:14] <krock> but the problem is the pc, he not find the package
[20:14] <ulkesh> ogra_: nice :)  thanks for the info...hopefully a separate sdk one will get created
[20:14] <alo21> F41L, 4.2.2, it doesn't show any pop-up on the phone screen
[20:14] <DeineMudda> I mean what is the download link again?
[20:15] <DeineMudda> where
[20:15] <markqvist_> Alistair, that is get the zipped system image, not the ".img" one. Flash the system image first, then the phablet image
[20:15] <krock> when i type sudo apt-get install phablet-tools android-tools-adb android-tools-fastboot i get error
[20:15] <F41L> did you enable developer mode by hitting the build version in "About Phone"
[20:15] <tusing> must i flash the zip using my custom recovery (TWRP Gnex)?  or should it auto flash?
[20:15] <ogra_> DeineMudda, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[20:15] <F41L> alo21, did you enable developer mode by hitting the build version in "About Phone"
[20:15] <Alistair> markqvist_: Thanks
[20:15] <ProGEEK> naw cute, it uses apt
[20:15] <shane_> i think i need HELP
[20:15] <DeineMudda> No I mean the manual download
[20:15] <markqvist_> Alistair, np :)
[20:15] <krock> when i type sudo apt-get install phablet-tools android-tools-adb android-tools-fastboot i get error
[20:15] <bongo> marqvist_ so I need to flash the phablet file no matter the device, and then after that flash the device specific file, is that correct?
[20:15] <shane_> all i did was unlock my nexus 10 and I have the RED EXCLAMATION POINT
[20:16] <mikey_> markqvist_: which file must flash at first
[20:16] <F41L> alo21, in android 4.2 and later, you have to touch the build version in "about phone" 7 times repeatedly for developer options to be enabled, from there you can go into developer options and enable usb debugging.
[20:16] <florexus> is this good for daily use?
[20:16] <F41L> florexus, no
[20:16] <krock> when i type "sudo apt-get install phablet-tools android-tools-adb android-tools-fastboot" i get error
[20:16] <ramblingpirate> Oh god no.
[20:16] <ramblingpirate> but it is very pretty
[20:16] <florexus> what are the known bugs?
[20:16] <F41L> krock, did you add the PPA to apt?
[20:16] <shane_> ok nm
[20:16] <shane_> rebooted
[20:16] <krock> yes
[20:16] <shane_> WHOA
[20:16] <DeineMudda> Please I need the manual download link
[20:16] <ulkesh> anyone familiar with qtcreator happen to know if there are any mobile templates available?  all i see on mine are desktop templates when attempting to create a new project
[20:16] <markqvist_> bongo, Flash the system (device-specific) file FIRST, then the phablet no matter the device. The small system file contains device specific stuff, the large phablet file is the base software, apps and demo data
[20:16] <Mad_Gouki> florexus: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes
[20:17] <F41L> florexus, no GSM data, no music player, and more at wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes
[20:17] <crypticmofo> F41L are you guys from chanonical ?
[20:17] <alo21> F41L, oh... now it is working. Thanks
[20:17] <carlsonwf-br> Anyone can tell me if it's possible to install ubuntu on the old Galaxy Tab 7 inches? (P1000) ??
[20:17] <kaiser10123> once image is loaded to galaxy nexus how can we do updates only directly from terminal or from device?
[20:17] <F41LB0t> kaiser10123, The installation instructions (from Ubuntu) are located at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[20:17] <krock> f41l,fi hadded it in this way sudo add-apt-repository ppa:phablet-team/tools
[20:17] <markqvist_> but then again, i take no responsibility, this is just what worked for me ;)
[20:17] <F41L> crypticmofo, no, i'm not from Canonical.
[20:17] <markqvist_> but yeah, flash the small device-specific zip file first, then the large phablet file
[20:17] <F41L> krock, did you sudo apt-get update
[20:17] <kumikumi_> anyone know if GTK applications are supported?
[20:18] <ogra_> kumikumi_, they arent
[20:18] <krock> F41L, yes
[20:18] <F41L> ogra_, /shakefist GTK+!! >.<
[20:18] <F41L> krock, what version of ubuntu?
[20:18] <krock> F41L , i get some error too when type update
[20:19] <DavidJFulde> and I'm back! ha ha. Tutorial filmed, now to edit.
[20:19] <shane_> on nexus 10, seem to be stuck at boot image X after ONLY unlocking the device
[20:19] <krock> F41L, 12.04
[20:19] <florexus> when will be a stable/for daily use be released? next month?
[20:19] <bongo> i can't believe that this is on top of CM. that is awesome
[20:19] <DeineMudda> No the MANUAL downloadlink!
[20:19] <DavidJFulde> florexus think closer to october. I'm excited to see what the guys at XDA will do
[20:19] <mkmk> ????
[20:19] <krock> F41L , sorry 10.10
[20:19] <cuzeeer> hey please help me flash the ubuntu touch for galaxy nexus in windows xp :(
[20:19] <ulkesh> nevermind, the ubuntu templates installed (even though they show as "Desktop" templates) do work on the device...pretty sweet :)
[20:20] <F41LB0t> ulkesh, The installation instructions (from Ubuntu) are located at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[20:20] <F41L> krock, it is only available to 12.04 and up.
[20:20] <mibofra> DeineMudda, are you looking for this? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/quantal/mwc-demo/
[20:20] <florexus> Thanks guys. WIll wait for xda devs :3
[20:20] <dr01d> installed on nexus7, how do I get past splash screen?
[20:20] <markqvist_> bongo, do you have a link or something to more details about it being built on cm? interested..
[20:20] <F41LB0t> dr01d, The installation instructions (from Ubuntu) are located at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[20:20] <DeineMudda> cuzeeer doesen´t work
[20:20] <krock> F41L , it's possible to do in Windows?
[20:20] <bongo> http://phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb
[20:20] <ulkesh> wow, F41LB0t is on FIRE!
[20:20] <F41L> krock, you can use the live USB/CD ubuntu to do it, reportedly.
[20:20] <cuzeeer> and with ubuntu ? ;(
[20:21] <Mad_Gouki> krock: yeah, get vmware if you don't want to use livecd
[20:21] <markqvist_> Haha, i'm amazed that the idea was to _not_ make a "lock" screen, but still, so many people have a hard time getting past it
[20:21] <dr01d> F41LB0t: sigh, the install instructions are there, but not the usage instructions
[20:21] <shane_> has anyone done this with a NEXUS 10 yet???????
[20:21] <BjornTore> I'm doing it with VMware in windows
[20:21] <cuzeeer> also ubuntu desktop
[20:21] <F41L> ulkesh, I slapped him together in about 5 minutes, give him a break :3
[20:21] <ulkesh> F41L: haha, i'm totally kidding...too cool man
[20:21] <F41L> I'm trying to refine the logic that determines to reply or not
[20:21] <F41L> :D
[20:21] <DavidJFulde> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/quantal/mwc-demo/ <---- manual install for flashing through TWRP/Clockwork Mod (for GNex you need both the Maguro .zip and the phablet.zip )
[20:21] <XenGi> I just installed the dev preview of ubuntu-phone on my n4. How can I connect to wifi and is there any settings app?
[20:21] <krock> F41L , yes but i think this will be maked in Windows without emulate Ubuntu
[20:22] <dr01d> anyone know where the usage docs are?
[20:22] <F41L> I also put in a 10 second delay for anti-spam, and a 30 second delay per-user
[20:22] <ericvh> this is kind of interesting, when I adb shell into the black screen'd nexus, I can see all my old user data.  I would have though it would be wiped out.  Wondering if it didn't have enough space to unpack ubuntu....
[20:22] <Bevo> Do we know the roadmap on fixing missing features, specifically data over gsm
[20:22] <F41L> krock, it's been reported that using adb and fastboot has worked to get it running, but it is an unofficial method as far as I know.
[20:22] <Mad_Gouki> Bevo: final release is over a year away...
[20:23] <weisso5_> ericvh: package should fail in that case
[20:23] <shane_> can anyone seriously help me please?
[20:23] <iamikon> Hey I dont know if i am late with this but using flash-phablet on my nexus 10 just gets stuck when rebooting to ubuntu
[20:23] <weisso5_> ericvh: install*
[20:23] <markqvist_> shane_ whats the problem
[20:23] <Bevo> Mad_Gouki, one would hope that data over gsm would be sorted out well before that
[20:23] <Mad_Gouki> shane_: whata re you trying to do?
[20:23] <freesoul> if someone will find solution for black screen please post it
[20:23] <shane_> first, how do I whisper to you?
[20:23] <krock> F41L, umh ok, so i will tryng to update my version
[20:23] <Mad_Gouki> just speak softly
[20:23] <shane_> ok
[20:23] <shane_> thanks
[20:24] <shane_> I am trying this on my nexus 10
[20:24] <shane_> the thing is
[20:24] <DavidJFulde> ericvh It does not wipe your data. I can jump back and forth between Ubuntu and Android as I please (though Ubuntu gets wiped)
[20:24] <Mad_Gouki> you can whisper with /msg
[20:24] <topshelf> All installed on my GNexus :D
[20:24] <shane_> all I have done is unlock the bootloader and my tab is stuck at the boot image
[20:24] <markqvist_> shane_ a little more detail please? did it just vaporise?
[20:24] <topshelf> Looks nice
[20:24] <Mad_Gouki> uhm
[20:24] <XenGi> seems that only open wifis work atm. Is this correct?
[20:24] <shane_> going on about 5 mins now
[20:24] <Mad_Gouki> shane_: it's stuck at which boot image?
[20:24] <BjornTore> is there a youtube app for it yet?
[20:24] <Mad_Gouki> the nexus one, witht he X?
[20:24] <dank101> Woah
[20:24] <shane_> the multi colored x
[20:24] <dr01d> can't get past initial screen on Nexus 7
[20:24] <dank101> Guys
[20:25] <markqvist_> can you reboot into recovery? and do you have a custom recovery installed?
[20:25] <Mad_Gouki> hmm, hold power and turn it off maybe and try again? I dunno what to tell you
[20:25] <topshelf> .Xengi, only open wifi? What you mean?
[20:25] <ulkesh> dr01d: just start swiping from right to left/etc
[20:25] <tzvi> dr01d, swipe from the left to right
[20:25] <shane_> i did
[20:25] <shane_> this is the second go around
[20:25] <dank101> can someone make a hands on video
[20:25] <Guest47489> dual-boot with android? nexus7 it's possible?
[20:25] <dank101> No
[20:25] <XenGi> topshelf: I tried to connect to a wifi with wpa2 enterprise and it doesn't work
[20:25] <DavidJFulde> dank101 I am in the process of editing one now ;)
[20:25] <krock> F41L , thanks for all!
[20:25] <markqvist_> shane_, you can always just flash the original image back with fastboot
[20:26] <shane_> yeah
[20:26] <shane_> but
[20:26] <dank101> DavidJFulde: Thanks :)
[20:26] <shane_> all i did was unlock it
[20:26] <Mad_Gouki> shane_: I don't know, you might want to ask the google people, there's always a risk you broke something. It does set you back to factory settings when you unlock the bootloader.
[20:26] <shane_> kinda strange
[20:26] <gnome> has anyone gotten a virtual machine of it up and running yet?
[20:26] <markqvist_> shane_, its strange, shoudln't make the boot halt
[20:26] <IanWizard-Cloud> Maybe so early on, it wasn't a good idea to link webchat so much.
[20:26] <markqvist_> what did you do to unlock it?
[20:26] <topshelf> Xengi: Oh right, I'm okay on a WPA2-PSK here
[20:26] <markqvist_> through fastboot?
[20:27] <shane_> with tablet only unlocked and trying to go into recovery i get the android red exclamation
[20:27] <XenGi> topshelf: I have only some open and a enterprise here. So can't test that
[20:27] <topshelf> XenGi: Ah right, boo :-(
[20:27] <markqvist_> shane_, that means that you don't have any custom recovery installed
[20:27] <renkinao_> you also have lot of notification with contact ? lol
[20:27] <ericvh> dr01d: you got something other than black screen on nexus 7?
[20:27] <shane_> ok
[20:27] <XenGi> so there are no settings yet to edit date/time etc?
[20:27] <markqvist_> it's okay, you can still restore it
[20:27] <dank101> Guys
[20:27] <shane_> i thought it would resort to default recovery
[20:27] <dank101> Install TWRP
[20:28] <eduardocastro> Have anybody tested Ubuntu on a Galaxy SII?
[20:28] <markqvist_> shane_, what you are seing IS default recovery ;)
[20:28] <shane_> markqvist_: weird
[20:28] <stellarhopper__> yikes, just unlocked from stock and now stuck on the nexus 'X' animation since 5 mins :\
[20:28] <topshelf> Not really sure what to do with it next. Although image seems to have some contacts, phone calls and chat logs.
[20:28] <dank101> It won't work eduardocastro
[20:28] <ogra_> eduardocastro, first someone needs to port it
[20:28] <markqvist_> it's just complaining about not having received anything to restore
[20:28] <dank101> Guys
[20:28] <shane_> markqvist_: if it was released for toro i would do it on my gnex but...
[20:28] <dank101> if you have trouble flashing INSTALL A CUSTOM RECOVERY
[20:29] <jimmyco2008> There's a version of this for toro.
[20:29] <eduardocastro> @dank101 @ogra_ And you know if someone is working on it?
[20:29] <meetingology> eduardocastro: Error: "dank101" is not a valid command.
[20:29] <ogra_> eduardocastro, nope
[20:29] <topshelf> Is there an EASY way of getting contacts on, that anyone knows of?
[20:29] <dank101> no not yet XD
[20:29] <markqvist_> shane_, i think you should install TWRP recovery and try from there. It'll make everything a lot easier
[20:29] <cuzeeer> deineMudda can u speak german ?
[20:29] <ogra_> eduardocastro, but there is xda-developers, i'm sure they will soon pick it up
[20:29] <shane_> ok
[20:29] <ogra_> topshelf, see the release notes
[20:30] <shane_> markqvist_: cant I install that from the bootloader?
[20:30] <markqvist_> shane_, but maybe try restoring to factory first
[20:30] <XenGi> How do I actually close apps?
[20:30] <topshelf> ogra_: Oh yeah, them. Forgot about reading them, in all the excitement :D
[20:30] <markqvist_> shane_, yes, you can install from the bootloader
[20:30] <dank101> TWRP is the best choice
[20:30] <dank101> it fixes most flash bugs
[20:30] <dank101> USE TWRP
[20:31] <eduardocastro> Thx! I'll keep my eyes on it, I would like to contribute on Ubuntu Phone with translation :D
[20:31] <w00tc0d3> anyone's found out how to build Ubuntu4Phone?
[20:31] <ogra_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Contribute
[20:31] <ogra_> w00tc0d3, ^^^^
[20:31] <renkinao_> how i can change the QWERTY keyboard on AZERTY ?
[20:31] <aachie> hi
[20:32] <topshelf> ogra_: Add contacts FROM CSV...I think I just sicked in my mouth a little :-P
[20:32] <shane_> markqvist_: im like a windows guy (but open minded) do I need to use linux to flash back to recovery?
[20:32] <aachie> i installed Ubuntu phone on my galaxy nexus, any idea where to insert the SIM PIN?
[20:32] <F41LB0t> aachie, (auto-response) The installation instructions (from Ubuntu) are located at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[20:32] <mfsr98> the server is slow :p
[20:32] <nytelife> hey everyone
[20:33] <Tak> "These Call features are not yet supported: [...] PIN/PUK support for locked SIMs"
[20:33] <nytelife> device detected as toro unsupported device??
[20:33] <w00tc0d3> ogra_: still doesn't say how to build
[20:33] <penster> download the file with your browser and then save it into the folder specified by Ubuntu
[20:33] <mfsr98> toro is not supported only maguro I think lol
[20:33] <k1l_> looking on xda, its all over with ubuntu-phone :) congrats on this
[20:33] <mhall119> nytelife: is that the CDMA version of galaxy nexus?
[20:33] <mfsr98> yeah
[20:33] <nytelife> yes
[20:33] <w00tc0d3> and how to fetch on Arch Linux?
[20:33] <aachie> @TAK ah ok, sry!!
[20:33] <meetingology> aachie: Error: "TAK" is not a valid command.
[20:33] <mhall119> nytelife: someone on XDA has an image that will install, but the radios don't work
[20:33] <stellarhopper__> any suggestions: just unlocked from stock and now stuck on the nexus 'X' animation since 5 mins :\
[20:33] <aachie> thx tak!
[20:34] <markqvist_> shane_, no, you can install fastboot on windows as well. You need the android developer tools. Google it ;) Since you have already gotten yourself into this, you should probably do a bit of reading up on all of this stuff, then it'll be easy as pie to restore/flash/install stuff.
[20:34] <nytelife> oh so the ubuntu is not for verizon phones then?
[20:34] <Mad_Gouki> stellarhopper__: use http://teamw.in/project/twrp2
[20:34] <mhall119> nytelife: not the images we've released, no, they are for GSM models only
[20:34] <stellarhopper__> yeah just downloaded that
[20:34] <shane_> yeah
[20:34] <nytelife> sigh
[20:34] <zizicorp> Hi everyone !
[20:34] <shane_> markqvist_: im actually quite good with android, just dont use linux much
[20:34] <mhall119> nytelife: it shouldn't take long for somebody to get the CDMA chips working
[20:34] <tholu> ubuntu for samsung nexus s?
[20:35] <helicopter88> ogra_, do you know anything about porting ubuntu?
[20:35] <nytelife> no it shouldnt
[20:35] <dank101> Guys
[20:35] <dank101> calm down
[20:35] <tholu> ubuntu for samsung nexus s?
[20:35] <mhall119> tholu: no, but community porting starts today!
[20:35] <dank101> Not yet
[20:35] <ogra_> helicopter88, yes but not about poting the touch preview
[20:35] <zizicorp> I wanted to know if it is possible to install Ubuntu Touch using a virtual ubuntu machine on VMWare ?
[20:35] <dank101> No
[20:35] <tholu> communtiy
[20:35] <tholu> ?
[20:35] <markqvist_> shane_, ah cool. just go ahead and get fastboot on your computer, download the factory image for your device and flash it back, you'll be back up and running :)
[20:35] <dank101> thats noobish idea zizi
[20:35] <Kali__> "Pushing /home/me/Downloads/phablet-flash/95/quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip to /sdcard/autodeploy.zip" just takes hours for me. is this normal?
[20:36] <tusing> o.o  "Once completed the device should reboot into Ubuntu" BUT I GET A BLACK SCREEN D:
[20:36] <edude03> Hello everyone
[20:36] <tusing> Kali__: yes
[20:36] <mhall119> tholu: XDA hackers and the like, the ones that port new Android and Cyanogen to all different devices
[20:36] <Tassadar> Multiboot ubuntu phone on n7 with MultiROM (#shamelesspromotion): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38300214#post38300214
[20:36] <tusing> Kali__: it took me 1200 seconds or so
[20:36] <helicopter88> ogra_, I'm trying to port it to evo 3d gsm,I assume the android part starts fine
[20:36] <helicopter88> but then,no more
[20:36] <dr01d> erich: yeah, got the initial screen (clock, weird twitter thing)
[20:36] <topshelf> zizicorp: I installed using a VM in VMware Fusion
[20:36] <dr01d> swipes not working
[20:36] <dank101> GUYS
[20:36] <tholu> its not ported yet right ,,
[20:36] <zizicorp> So it works ?
[20:37] <dank101> FOR 2 SECONDS SHUT UP
[20:37] <w00tc0d3> helicopter88: any clue how to build this shit?
[20:37] <dank101> clam down
[20:37] <mhall119> tholu: not yet, no
[20:37] <topshelf> zizicorp: Yep, using it now
[20:37] <tmho> ubuntu phone ^^
[20:37] <helicopter88> w00tc0d3, I used make bacon or directly,brunch
[20:37] <Kali__> so, just wait and hope :D
[20:37] <Mad_Gouki> Kali__: I'm still sitting at it too, takes like 20 minutes apparently
[20:37] <dank101> If you want to install this the EASY way i will make a script to push this
[20:37] <tmho> anyone having issues installin on the n7 3g?
[20:37] <dr01d> hmm, Nexus 7 just sits at initial screen. nothing works but clock
[20:38] <tusing> o.o  "Once completed the device should reboot into Ubuntu" BUT I GET A BLACK SCREEN D: any idea what went wrong
[20:38] <tusing> galaxy nexus
[20:38] <ptl> how to I install openssh-server in Ubuntu Phone?
[20:38] <F41LB0t> ptl, (auto-response) The installation instructions (from Ubuntu) are located at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[20:38] <tusing> ubuntu on virtualbox
[20:38] <pmcgowan> dr01d: swipe left from right edge?
[20:38] <dank101> bad idea tusing
[20:38] <dank101> at LEAST use a live CD
[20:38] <ptl> how do I get a terminal in Ubuntu Phone?
[20:38] <tmho> the flash script detect tilapia for me not nakasig
[20:38] <dmj_nova> for the sdk, will raring work fine?
[20:38] <w00tc0d3> helicopter88: UH?! you initialized phablet.ubuntu.com/CyanogenMod/android.git and you could mka bacon it? no things from Launchpad needed?
[20:38] <dank101> NOTHING IS MAD YET
[20:38] <iwsdjhflkjsdhfjk> call don't work normal?
[20:38] <dmj_nova> ptl: use ssh I think
[20:38] <dank101> *MADE
[20:38] <tusing> fml
[20:38] <dr01d> :/
[20:38] <zizicorp> Ok, because i had a problem : "failed to copy "/tmp/tmpjMvBrV' to '/cache/recovery/command' : Permission denied
[20:38] <dr01d> annoyed
[20:39] <mhall119> ptl: you can use the Ubuntu SDK + QtCreator to ssh into the device
[20:39] <tusing> why didn't they say not to use virtualbox
[20:39] <tholu> when will it be ported to nexus
[20:39] <tusing> thousands of us use virtualbox
[20:39] <ogra_> iwsdjhflkjsdhfjk, needs a SIM without PIN
[20:39] <tholu> estimate
[20:39] <mhall119> dmj_nova: you can install it from Raring, yes
[20:39] <ptl> dmj_nova: I found the IP address of the device, but port 22 is not open
[20:39] <helicopter88> w00tc0d3, I inited that,added my device tree,and built with mka bacon
[20:39] <helicopter88> it failed at booting
[20:39] <dmj_nova> mhall119: so raring will be functional for app dev?
[20:39] <tusing> i can see the clock for 2 seconds - then the screen goes black
[20:39] <w00tc0d3> obviously haha
[20:39] <kapten> Give the community a couple of weeks and this will be epic =)
[20:39] <w00tc0d3> helicopter88: not that weird haha
[20:39] <Time2303> tusing, best to use a live cd or ubuntu install to make sure any problems are just related to the OS/phone and not something else introduced by the VM.
[20:39] <mhall119> tholu: it's up to 3rd party developers to port to other devices
[20:39] <dr01d> anyone else hanging on what I assume is the login screen on Nexus 7
[20:40] <mhall119> dmj_nova: yes, just don't install ubuntu-sdk yet, there's a dependency problem
[20:40] <Time2303> dr01d, swip
[20:40] <tholu> can ubuntu be installed to maguro ( galaxy nexus
[20:40] <Time2303> swipe*
[20:40] <edude03> dr01d yes everyone is, it's in the release notes
[20:40] <helicopter88> w00tc0d3, I'm pretty sure it's something stupid,but I don't know where the ubuntu part of the phone stores the logs
[20:40] <dmj_nova> mhall119: wait, what?
[20:40] <mhall119> dmj_nova: instead sudo apt-get install qt-components-ubuntu-examples
[20:40] <dr01d> swipe doesn't work
[20:40] <w00tc0d3> helicopter88: ya gotta chroot in
[20:40] <dr01d> where are the release notes?
[20:40] <helicopter88> w00tc0d3, tried already
[20:40] <stellarhopper__> Device detected as /sbin/sh: getprop: not found
[20:40] <stellarhopper__> Unsupported device, autodetect fails device
[20:40] <stellarhopper__> ??
[20:40] <Time2303> google ubuntu phone os +"release note"
[20:41] <vladsharp> Has anyone got dual*boot working?
[20:41] <dr01d> nm
[20:41] <helicopter88> uchroot /data/ubuntu/
[20:41] <helicopter88> About to call clone()
[20:41] <helicopter88> ERROR: No child processes
[20:41] <mhall119> dmj_nova: ubuntu-sdk is a meta-package, and one of it'd dependencies conflicts between a package in the PPA and a package recently landed in Raring's archives
[20:41] <[del]> hey, quick question. Toro, completely unsupported at the moment? like no phone functionality?
[20:41] <mhall119> dmj_nova: but it's being fixed
[20:41] <kapten> dr01d: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes
[20:41] <dmj_nova> mhall119: thanks
[20:41] <dmj_nova> mhall119: one more thing
[20:41] <mhall119> np
[20:41] <dmj_nova> the keyboard in ubuntu phone, where is the code for that?
[20:41] <tehpwnz> There are no images one can flash? It has to download them with the phone connected?
[20:42] <edude03> dr01d https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes
[20:42] <popey> dmj_nova: maliit
[20:42] <k1l_> so if i wanna test it on my nexus4 im just flashing the armel+mako.zip and the phablet-armhf.zip?
[20:42] <edude03> the install page has a button that says release notes
[20:42] <k1l_> (flashing in cwm, that is)
[20:42] <mhall119> tehpwnz: images are at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/quantal/mwc-demo/
[20:42] <mhall119> the phablet-flash just downloads and installed them for you
[20:42] <tholu> can ubuntu be installed to maguro ( galaxy nexus
[20:42] <nytelife> oh I didnt realize that this release does not support data yet?
[20:43] <tehpwnz> Thank you
[20:43] <UncountedGnome> yes it can tholu
[20:43] <UncountedGnome> just not the toro or toroplus that I know of yet
[20:43] <dr01d> ok, so I don't see anywhere in the release notes that says it hangs on initial screen on nexus 7
[20:43] <sulliwane> Hi all, trying to install ubuntu on my Nexus 7
[20:43] <tholu> where can i find the image
[20:43] <F41LB0t> tholu, (auto-response) The installation instructions (from Ubuntu) are located at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[20:43] <sulliwane> but "adb devices" gives no results
[20:43] <dr01d> and I've been swiping all over the screen for 10 mins
[20:43] <dank101> I will help
[20:43] <dank101> Everyone
[20:43] <dmj_nova> DavidJFulde: https://wiki.maliit.org/Main_Page
[20:43] <dr01d> and restarted 3 times
[20:43] <tholu> thanks
[20:44] <dank101> open a dialoge box with me
[20:44] <dmj_nova> there's your keyboard project
[20:44] <zizicorp> Got the same error when trying to install ><
[20:44] <Mad_Gouki> I hope these built in alerts aren't real people
[20:44] <dank101> and i will help
[20:44] <shadyKhan> if you guys havent seen this http://liliputing.com/2013/02/how-to-install-ubuntu-touch-on-a-nexus-7-with-windows-mac-or-linux.html
[20:44] <F41LB0t> shadyKhan, (auto-response) There are currently no official instructions for installing from Windows (yet), stay tuned! It has, however, been reported that you can use a Ubuntu live CD/USB to install.
[20:44] <zizicorp> "adbd cannot run as root in production builds"
[20:44] <elhana> sulliwane: try sudo
[20:44] <dmj_nova> hi JamesMR
[20:44] <JamesMR> Hullo
[20:44] <dr01d> ah ha
[20:44] <dr01d> got something to work
[20:44] <JamesMR> alas, I have not a nexus to try this with
[20:45] <dr01d> you have to swipe starting at the extreme edge on left
[20:45] <tusing> guys just syaing
[20:45] <tusing> this is VERY pre alpha
[20:45] <ogra_> no
[20:45] <ogra_> its a demo
[20:45] <tusing> you can not add your own email or install your own apps
[20:45] <samarth> installing phablet-tools is failing for me
[20:45] <ulkesh> tusing: I think it's not bad for an alpha or demo...I'm eager for more now :)
[20:46] <rsalveti> ogra_: it's not a demo :-)
[20:46] <rsalveti> it's the thing, but in a very early stage
[20:46] <sulliwane> pls, do you know how to workaround no devices detected
[20:46] <ogra_> right :)
[20:46] <sulliwane> from adb devices
[20:46] <sulliwane> ??
[20:46] <F41L> rsalveti, ogra_ is canonical I believe. Sooooo :D
[20:46] <samarth> Reading package lists... Error! E: Encountered a section with no Package: header E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/ppa.launchpad.net_pmcenery_ppa_ubuntu_dists_precise_main_binary-amd64_Packages E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[20:46] <rsalveti> F41L: I'm also
[20:46] <Mad_Gouki> hey, quick question... how do I close an app?
[20:46] <JamesMR> would it be inadvisable for me to try installing ubuntu phablet on my kindle fire?
[20:46] <ogra_> F41L, rsalveti too ;)
[20:46] <pmcgowan> sulliwane: did you  unlock and enable usb debugging?
[20:46] <F41L> ah
[20:46] <sulliwane> yes
[20:46] <rsalveti> F41L: and I'm working at this project ;-)
[20:46] <sulliwane> I enabled usb debugging
[20:47] <F41L> OK :D
[20:47] <sulliwane> and my device is unlocked
[20:47] <pmcgowan> sulliwane: do you have the latest version of android tools?
[20:47] <Time2303> Canonical, eh
[20:47]  * Time2303 frowns at ogra_ 
[20:47] <mhall119> Mad_Gouki: swipe up until you get the HUD open, then click the X button near the bottom
[20:47] <tusing> ulkesh: it's alright. the fact that you can't even change your time zone is a bit annoying
[20:47] <ogra_> i'm just rge sideshowbob here :)
[20:47] <Mad_Gouki> mhall119: thanks
[20:47] <sulliwane> I added the PPA provided by canonical
[20:47] <ptl> found it!
[20:47] <mhall119> tusing: it's a developer preview
[20:47] <ptl> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes
[20:47] <nsrla> i keep getting stuck at zip to /sdcard
[20:47]  * rsalveti hugs ogra_ 
[20:47] <tehpwnz> Okay im a little lost now. I have a maguro. Which files do i need to download to flash? And when flashing, assume no net connection, i still use the phablet commmand?
[20:47] <ogra_> rsalveti is the real krusty
[20:47] <ptl> it just happens that Ubuntu Phone provides the adb interface, cool
[20:47]  * ogra_ hugs rsalveti 
[20:47] <ptl> my Nexus 7 Ubuntu does not
[20:47] <IanWizard-Cloud> sulliwane: did you install the android tools though?
[20:48] <pmcgowan> sulliwane: make sure you have adb 1.0.31
[20:48] <_inf> how much android is there in up?
[20:48] <shaun> HI i need a bit of help i decided to go back to android for now and when i reboot into bootloader on my nexus 7 i type in terminal adb devices and its blank i reboot the nexus and type in adb devices when switched on it gives me my serial number can any one help me please
[20:48] <nsrla> on my nexus 7, im installing from ubuntu 12.10
[20:48] <sulliwane> you mean I have to download the android SDK ?
[20:48] <mhall119> _inf: a fair amount at the lower levels
[20:48] <sulliwane> I thought it was kind of "bundled" in the PPA
[20:48] <kumikumi_> I was wondering, does the tablet-version of Ubuntu use LightDM for the login screen?
[20:48] <jamesh_> is there a way to check what ip address the phone has via the UI ?
[20:48] <pmcgowan> sulliwane: no just android-tools per the install instructions
[20:48] <renkinao_> do you have lot of "fake?" contact ?
[20:48] <kumikumi_> or is there a custom solution
[20:49] <BjornTore> I get this on Nexus 7: Pushing /root/phablet-flash/95/quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip to /sdcard/autodeploy.zip
[20:49] <BjornTore> And then nothing happens
[20:49] <weisso5_> adb push is slow
[20:49] <wastrel> glad this channel is calming down somewhat
[20:49] <renkinao_> BjornTore, just wait
 it takes a few minutes
[20:49] <sulliwane> sudo apt-get install phablet-tools android-tools-adb android-tools-fastboot
[20:49] <BjornTore> Aight, tnx. I'll give it 30 mins
[20:49] <pmcgowan> sulliwane: right
[20:49] <sulliwane> already done if that's what you were talking about
[20:50] <sulliwane> :o)
[20:50] <sergiusens> shaun: try and restart adb
[20:50] <pmcgowan> sulliwane: ok then make adb kill-server; adb start-server
[20:50] <pmcgowan> sulliwane: should be seeing the device
 1st thing i tried pal
[20:50] <elhana> ye, probably not accepted cert
[20:50] <Thiago_> hello
[20:50] <sulliwane> did it again, adb kill-server; adb start-server
[20:50] <sulliwane> no change
[20:51] <OverSu> Hello everyone :)
[20:51] <OverSu> Bonjour =)
[20:51] <sulliwane> :(
[20:51] <sulliwane> bonjour
[20:51] <shayaliz> hi guys =) just flashed my maguro coming from custom rom.  "Once completed the device should reboot into Ubuntu" in the terminal after flashing. Phone reboots, Google logo appears, screen blacks out and stays black. I'm waiting 20min now. any idea what to do? (latest tools, device is still visible via adb devices)
[20:51] <nsrla> i keeep getting this, failed to copy '/tmp/tmpavdIlE' to '/cache/recovery/command': Permission denied Error while excetuting adb push /tmp/tmpavdIlE /cache/recovery/command Make sure the device is connected and viewable by running 'adb devices' Ensure you have a root device, one which running 'adb root' does not return an error nsr@ubuntu:~$
[20:51] <Guest52974> I'm having trouble even to install Touch Developer Preview Tools via apt-get
[20:51] <Guest52974> it is not adding phablet-team/tools to /etc/apt/sources-list
[20:51] <OverSu> Some people have trouble with Nexus/Ubuntu ? x)
[20:51] <xboxfanj> is the device source for the mako up yet?
[20:51] <sergiusens> shayaliz: get the /cache/recovery/last_log from adb
[20:51] <sergiusens> shayaliz: I mean, using adb
cant usb debug</testing>
[20:51] <F41LB0t> F41L, (auto-response) For Android 4.2 and greater, one must repeatedly tap the build version under the "About Phone" section of android settings to enable the "Developer Settings" menu, where one can then enable USB Debugging.
[20:51] <fluxim> shayaliz, press power once
[20:52] <sulliwane> pmcgowan : still nothing with adb devices
[20:52] <tehpwnz> The images from here http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/quantal/mwc-demo/ must they be flashed using fastboot
[20:52] <sulliwane> :(
[20:52] <tehpwnz> I see system recovery and boot
[20:52] <mhall119> sulliwane: did you enable developer mode and all in Android?
[20:52] <pmcgowan> sulliwane: its acting like its not in debug mode
[20:52] <pmcgowan> or not really plugged in
[20:52] <Guest52974> I'm having trouble even to install Touch Developer Preview Tools via apt-get. it is not adding phablet-team/tools to /etc/apt/sources-list. Anyone?
[20:52] <renkinao> someone see what I wrote ? lol
[20:52] <IanWizard-Cloud> sulliwane: did you have adb installed before?  for example, I have it from the android SDK.  If you did, then you may have the old version at the beginning of your PATH, instead of the end.  That may also cause this.
[20:52] <F41L> Guest52974, what version of ubuntu?
[20:52] <opaijavai> error: device not found Error while excetuting adb shell getprop ro.cm.device  Make sure the device is connected and viewable by running 'adb devices' Ensure you have a root device, one which running 'adb root' does not return an error
[20:52] <mhall119> Guest52974: what error are you getting from add-apt-repository?
[20:52] <dank101> GUYS
[20:53] <dank101> I AM AUTOMATING THIS
[20:53] <opaijavai> how to fix this?
[20:53] <shayaliz> fluxim, nothing happend, I will get the log
[20:53] <OverSu> Someone already had "Unsupported Device, autodetect fails device, Device detected as tilapia" ? :)
[20:53] <dr01d> shell?
[20:53] <dr01d> how?
[20:53] <pmcgowan> Guest52974: the PPA will be in its own list in sources.list.d
[20:53] <dank101> I AM AUTOMATING THIS
[20:53] <mhall119> dank101: no need to shout
[20:53] <dank101> install java and wait for it
[20:53] <ulkesh> tusing: yeah it seems there isn't much of a settings app or anything, but still...i like it...certainly not my daily driver yet :)
[20:53] <sergiusens> OverSu: tilapia is not supported now
[20:53] <sulliwane> usb debugg enabled
[20:53] <sergiusens> OverSu: you need either grouper, maguro, mako or manta
[20:53] <OverSu> sergiusens: OMG, really ? :'(
[20:54] <sulliwane> and just checked, no android SDK installed
[20:54] <sulliwane> so my path is clean with adb
[20:54] <sergiusens> OverSu: it's in the release notes
[20:54] <F41LB0t> sergiusens, (auto-response) Release notes are located at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes
[20:54] <OverSu> sergiusens: Thanks a lot ! :D
[20:54] <F41L> opaijavai, do you have usb debugging enabled? have you tried the command "adb devices" and gotten any listed entries? Is your phone rooted (try adb root)?
[20:54] <sergiusens> OverSu: a port should be easy though
[20:54] <OverSu> Thanks :3
[20:54] <OverSu> sergiusens: Do you know when ? ;)
[20:54] <pmcgowan> sulliwane: I am stumped, maybe try a different usb port or cable
[20:54] <sergiusens> OverSu: I wouldn't be surprised if it is used soon
[20:54] <xboxfanj> is the mako device tree up?
[20:54] <mhall119> OverSu: give it a few days and ports will probably start popping up
[20:54] <dr01d> the UI misaligned on Nexus 7 makes me sad
[20:54] <sergiusens> OverSu: not doing it myself, no device :-)
[20:54] <sulliwane> !!
[20:54] <sulliwane> yep
[20:54] <OverSu> sergiusens: Thanks a lot. x)
[20:54] <sulliwane> did it, it works
[20:54] <sulliwane> :)
[20:54] <sulliwane> thx dude
[20:54] <pmcgowan> sulliwane: woot
[20:55] <tehpwnz> How do we flash the images manually
[20:55] <sulliwane> changing the usb port did the trick
[20:55] <restore_android> how do i change directories to downloads in linux?
[20:55] <F41LB0t> restore_android, (auto-response) The installation instructions (from Ubuntu) are located at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[20:55] <tehpwnz> And which ones do i download
[20:55] <sergiusens> OverSu: but I will assist anyone wanting to try... but lets wait for the porting guide tomorrow
[20:55] <sulliwane> let's go one, can't wait to test it out
[20:55] <belak> So, I've heard it's possible to flash this through recovery in stead of using the installer... how can I do that?
[20:55] <F41LB0t> belak, (auto-response) The installation instructions (from Ubuntu) are located at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[20:55] <Guest47005> Getting error "Error while excetuting adb shell getprop ro.cm.device"
[20:55] <sergiusens> sulliwane: ahh... there are also people with broken cables
[20:55] <OverSu> sergiusens: Thanks, I must waiting until tomorrow... ! :)
[20:55] <Xeph_> any fun things to do with my GN/Ubuntu vis SSH?
[20:55] <Xeph_> *via
[20:55] <opaijavai> i bought the n7 today, i'm following the step by step on ubuntu page
[20:55] <sulliwane> :)
[20:56] <Mad_Gouki> was pretty easy for me, didn't run into any hiccups
[20:56] <AlexDeGruven> Phew. Finally got it installed. Where can I access the settings? Or is it immutable in this first iteration?
[20:56] <Excape> Ive got a black screen on the nexus 7 after flashing for 10 minutes now. Does it take that long to boot up for the first time?
[20:56] <sergiusens> OverSu: np
[20:56] <Mark__> restore_android: cd ~/Downloads
[20:56] <android_187> i hope for a port to my sgs3 =) i would like to see ubuntu phone
[20:56] <OverSu> sergiusens: See you tomorrow haha (If I got some trouble :s)
[20:56] <Mad_Gouki> the thing about pushing autoboot.zip could have a better sort of indication that it's not stopped/died
[20:56] <sergiusens> Excape: it shouldn't ; check if adb is available
[20:56] <ogra_> AlexDeGruven, see the release notes
[20:56] <F41LB0t> ogra_, (auto-response) Release notes are located at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes
[20:56] <dr01d> on N7, I just want a shell
[20:56] <restore_android> Mark__ thanks!
[20:56] <dr01d> anyone know how?
[20:56] <redbmk> someone was asking how to close an app - with it open, swipe up from the bottom and select the search icon
[20:57] <redbmk> then press the X to close the app
[20:57] <pmcgowan> dr01d: use ssh or adb shell then ubuntu_chroot shell
[20:57] <shaun> killed adb server and started it again still nothing while am in boot loader
[20:57] <Guest47005> Stupid script should download the image first then attempt, not bomb out on error.  If I had the fiels I could be manually flashing or pushing the files
[20:57] <Excape> sergiusens: yes, I see the device with adb
[20:57] <dank101> In bootloader only fastboot works
[20:57] <gayanhewa> Hi
[20:58] <dank101> it's the ADB of bootloader
[20:58] <redbmk> dr01d, you mean adb shell?
[20:58] <gayanhewa> anyone with success installing the developer preview on gnex ?
[20:58] <sergiusens> Excape: pastebin the output of adb logcat
[20:58] <tehpwnz> Can someone show me the script code
[20:58] <Bootscreen> hy, i want to try ubuntu on my nexus 10. can i flash it from windows or must i have ubuntu?
[20:58] <dr01d> I mean like open a terminal on the N7
[20:58] <tehpwnz> So i can flash manually
[20:58] <sergiusens> Excape: also do an adb root and grab /cache/recovery/last_log
[20:58] <dr01d> I cant set the wifi (hidden ssid)
[20:59] <redbmk> dr01d, that's a known issue in the release notes - i had the same question
[20:59] <F41LB0t> redbmk, (auto-response) Release notes are located at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes
[20:59] <sergiusens> Bootscreen: someone wrote instructions for Windows
[20:59] <shayaliz> sergiusens, can't access /cache via adb.. access denied. if I try to use "su" also permission denied. may it help to flash the stock rom and then flash ubuntu?
[20:59] <andril> hello all
[20:59] <sergiusens> Bootscreen: http://liliputing.com/2013/02/how-to-install-ubuntu-touch-on-a-nexus-7-with-windows-mac-or-linux.html
[20:59] <F41LB0t> sergiusens, (auto-response) There are currently no official instructions for installing from Windows (yet), stay tuned! It has, however, been reported that you can use a Ubuntu live CD/USB to install.
[21:00] <restore_android> Mark__ question
[21:00] <Bootscreen> thx, sergiusens =)
[21:00] <gayanhewa> i get this "tar: write error: No space left on device" in last_log
[21:00] <sergiusens> Bootscreen: haven't tried or looked at that though
[21:00] <Mark__> restore_android yep?
[21:00] <restore_android> Mark__ when I try to run ./flash-all.sh it tells me no such file or directory exists...
[21:00] <sergiusens> shayaliz: so this exactly for your workstation: adb root
[21:00] <restore_android> Mark__ but i've already got it downloaded
[21:01] <sergiusens> shayaliz: adb pull /cache/recovery/last_log .
[21:01] <restore_android> Mark__ should i try flash-base.sh?
[21:01] <Mark__> restore_android Have you extracted the factory image?
[21:01] <Bootscreen> its equal sergiusens. i will look and try ^^
[21:01] <restore_android> Mark__ maybe not..... 2 seconds
[21:02] <e8hffff> HELP 'Error while excetuting adb shell getprop ro.cm.device '
[21:02] <Excape> sergiusens: i get "tar: write error: No space left on device" in last_log
[21:02] <restore_android> Mark__ ok i did that
[21:03] <johncrist1988> How does someone connect to a hidden wifi network?
[21:03] <Mark__> restore_android next you cd into the folder that created
[21:03] <rsalveti> johncrist1988: awe might be able to help on that
[21:03] <Guest52974> t\
[21:03] <restore_android> Mark__ it doesn't give me the location
[21:03] <johncrist1988> Never mind, I see it's an issue in the release notes
[21:03] <F41LB0t> johncrist1988, (auto-response) Release notes are located at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes
[21:03] <rsalveti> but guess by creating the network manager connection file by hand
[21:04] <Mark__> restore_android where did you extract the files to?
[21:04] <restore_android> Mark__ in the location it says "(image of folder)/"
[21:04] <restore_android> Mark__ i double clicked on the zip
[21:04] <restore_android> Mark__ do i need to save them first?
[21:04] <dr01d> redbmk, thanks. using adb shell and in the device now :)
[21:04] <shayaliz> sergiusens, thx.. http://pastebin.com/JA5nJBk4
[21:04] <jamesh_> After install, doing a    uname -a    shows:"Linux localhost.localdomain 3.0.31-cyanogenmod-g527ce11 #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Feb 21 04:14:33 UTC 2013 armv7l GNU/Linux" ... is this correct ?
[21:04] <F41LB0t> jamesh_, (auto-response) The installation instructions (from Ubuntu) are located at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[21:05] <Gushy> hi guys
[21:05] <redbmk> dr01d: awesome - if you find the command line to connect to hidden ssid you mind giving me a heads up? looking into it now
[21:05] <restore_android> Mark__ although i do have a question. why do i need to change directories into that folder? i thought i was supposed to run the script in the downloaded folder
[21:05] <Guest52974> pmcgowan, thanks for your reply
[21:05] <ender89> anyone have any idea if we could go about dual-booting ubuntu and android?
[21:05] <mhall119> for anybody who still wants to know how to close an app: https://plus.google.com/u/0/109919666334513536939/posts/ELTLYHFqNdo
[21:05] <sergiusens> shayaliz: seems your disk is full
[21:06] <nsrla> Sucesss
[21:06] <sergiusens> shayaliz: we are not deleting the userdata partition
[21:06] <Mark__> restore_android nah, you have to run it from the extracted folder
[21:06] <sergiusens> shayaliz: see how mush free space you have by running adb shell df
[21:06] <restore_android> Mark__ ok so i extracted the zip right into the file that i downloaded. does that eliminate the need to cd?
[21:06] <Jaszczomp> I've succeded with launching Ubuntu on my Gnex but it is not connecting to network. Could I make a phonecall, or I've missed something?
[21:06] <eth2> does qtcreator run for you guys?
[21:07] <Mad_Gouki> calculator app doesn't work on my nexus 7 :-|
[21:07] <eth2> doesnt work on my nexus ether
[21:07] <Mark__> restore_android if you extracted it to Downloads there'll be a folder called nakasi-jdq39 or whatever image you have so you'll need to cd ~/Downloads/nakasi-jdq39
[21:07] <eth2> same for music, they look like pictures for me
[21:07] <ender89> Jaszczomp from what I understand, data doesn't work and it only works for the gsm version
[21:07] <ender89> As in, phonecalls only work on gsm
[21:07] <restore_android> Mark__ right-o!
[21:08] <Excape> sergiusens: seems like i'm having the same problem as shayaliz . Would a full wipe with cwm help?
[21:08] <mhall119> eth2: qtcreator runs for me
[21:08] <shayaliz> sergiusens, backupped anything so i can delete my internal sdcard may that help?
[21:08] <Jaszczomp> I have a maguro. Is there any "settings" or something?
[21:08] <mhall119> Jaszczomp: only the indicators
[21:09] <pmcgowan> redbmk: dr01d use the phablet-network-setup script to copy your desktop config to the device
[21:09] <sergiusens> Excape: shayaliz yes, a full wipe helps, just format userdata and sdcard and start over or fastboot -w
[21:09] <eth2> mhall119, ubuntu 12.10 i guess?
[21:09] <restore_android> Mark__ tells me no such directory exists. GAH! *shakes fists at air*
[21:09] <mhall119> eth2: I'm on Raring
[21:09] <shayaliz> sergiusens, kk I'll try
[21:09] <Gushy> Mad_Gouki: calcuator app is just a demo according to the release notes - http://goo.gl/l1zN4
[21:09] <F41LB0t> Gushy, (auto-response) Release notes are located at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes
[21:09] <Mad_Gouki> Gushy: ah
[21:09] <Pocketnowfan> I flashed it Ubunut via CM Mod (First Maguro then Phablet) and now I´ve got blackscreen why (I made a full data wipe before) Please help me
[21:09] <Excape> sergiusens: although df shows that i have 550mb free on /system
[21:09] <mhall119> actual calculator app is being developed: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps/Calculator
[21:10] <mhall119> Mad_Gouki: ^^
[21:10] <Gushy> anyone know if there is an clock / alarm? I don't see it in the release notes and while I want to get developing I need to get up tomorrow. ;-p
[21:10] <F41LB0t> Gushy, (auto-response) Release notes are located at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes
[21:10] <Mad_Gouki> oh that dinner with friends example is cool!
[21:10] <Mark__> restore_android the image in my example is for my nexus7. Make sure you change the command to what ever image you are trying to flash
[21:10] <mhall119> Gushy: Clock app is being developed: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps/Clock
[21:10] <DrHalan> hey guys. I am looking for infos on the messenger running on Ubuntu Touch. Hopefully it will  use telepathy.
[21:10] <Jaszczomp> nah. Simple question and simple answer please - can i make phonecall or not?
[21:10] <restore_android> yes, i have a nexus 7
[21:10] <eth2> mhall119, thx gonna try that i guess
[21:10] <restore_android> Mark__ yes i have a nexus 7
[21:10] <mhall119> DrHalan: there is no messenger app yet
[21:11] <ogra_> write one !
[21:11] <NoHell> does anyone tryed with a nexus 4 ?
[21:11] <Pocketnowfan> I flashed it Ubunut via CM Mod (First Maguro then Phablet) and now I´ve got blackscreen why (I made a full data wipe before) Please help me
[21:11] <Gushy> thx mhall119
[21:11] <e8hffff> sergiusens: thansk for the linl
[21:11] <Mark__> restore_android do you have the 4.2.1 or 4.2.2 image?
[21:11] <redbmk> pmcgowan, I'm manually creating a file in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections
[21:11] <AlexDeGruven> Ok, I'm seriously digging this. Once I tuned things up through ADB. Nice work so far.
[21:11] <Warriorlite> Hello
[21:11] <redbmk> your way sounds like it might be easier
[21:11] <restore_android> Mark__ 4.2.2
[21:11] <shayaliz> Excape, are you able to boot into cwm?
[21:11] <AmpeR> is it unity mod, or anything else?
[21:11] <DrHalan> mhall119: but there is sms right? so there is some kind of messenger. maemo used telepathy for sms too (which was awesome)
[21:11] <Warriorlite> Someone can help me please ?
[21:12] <awe> DrHalan, the telephony-app uses telapathy
[21:12] <mhall119> DrHalan: there is sms, yes
[21:12] <Excape> shayaliz: yes, it didn't overwrite the recovery
[21:12] <Mark__> restore_android so what folders do you have in Downloads then? Keep it clean :)
[21:12] <Pocketnowfan> Should I pull out the battery, because maybe it is doing something?
[21:12] <shayaliz> Excape, adb reboot recovery?
[21:12] <DrHalan> i know that ubuntu is using some parts of maemo (e.g. online accounts) i hope they will try to reuse the messenger :)
[21:12] <Warriorlite> I want to go back to Android after i tried Ubuntu for Phone
[21:12] <restore_android> Mark__ lol. the only one i have is that nakasi-jdq39
[21:13] <Pocketnowfan> I flashed it Ubunut via CM Mod (First Maguro then Phablet) and now I´ve got blackscreen why (I made a full data wipe before) Please help me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[21:13] <Mark__> restore_android and thats the folder, not the tgz?
[21:13] <Excape> shayaliz: i just rebooted to fastboot by pressing the power button and then chose recovery
[21:13] <mhall119> Pocketnowfan: we don't support that method
[21:13] <Guest93118> I have myself a black screen too :X trying to figure out why it won't load
[21:13] <weisso5> Pocketnowfan, run $ adb logcat to see what's going on
[21:13] <jamesh_> Hi, are updates automatic?
[21:13] <chippey5> Hello
[21:13] <restore_android> Mark__ ah! it is the tgz
[21:13] <Mad_Gouki> Pocketnowfan: how did you do that? did you follow the method from the ubuntu site?
[21:13] <AmpeR> how to install this new touch enviroment separately?
[21:13] <F41LB0t> AmpeR, (auto-response) The installation instructions (from Ubuntu) are located at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[21:13] <ogra_> jamesh_, see the release notes
[21:13] <F41LB0t> ogra_, (auto-response) Release notes are located at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes
[21:14] <restore_android> Mark__
[21:14] <Mark__> restore_android ok. So that needs unpacking first
[21:14] <restore_android> Mark__ i found the file
[21:14] <jamesh_> sorry, thanks!
[21:14] <shayaliz> Excape, phablet seems to install a new cwm.. i had cwm touch, now i have the non-touch cwm ^^
[21:14] <restore_android> Mark__ where i extracted the files
[21:14] <ProGEEK> htop on my phone, nice :D
[21:14] <Mark__> restore_android great.
[21:14] <Pocketnowfan> Mad_Gouki No I flashed it via CM Recovery
[21:14] <restore_android> Mark__ downloads/phablet-flash/95
[21:14] <moocow_> Too soon to port to any old phone?
[21:14] <Excape> shayaliz: aa right, didnt notice that
[21:14] <restore_android> Mark__ do i cd to that?
[21:14] <Mad_Gouki> Pocketnowfan: well don't do that... follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install?action=show&redirect=TouchInstallProcess
[21:15] <Mark__> is the nakasi-jdq39 folder in there?
[21:15] <DrHalan> awe: is there any info on the telephony app? cannot find anything in the wiki (maybe i am blind...)
[21:15] <movabo> Is there a possibility to change the clock-time?
[21:15] <Jaszczomp> Can I make a phonecall or not? I have Gnex GSM
[21:15] <Guest93118> Used the guide and finixhed installing on an ubuntu machine...and i'm getting a black screen. Anyone have this as a known issue?
[21:15] <Pocketnowfan> Mad_Gouki I know but I don´t want to install ubuntu
[21:15] <eth2> can anyone confirm that nothing happens when you click installable apps?
[21:15] <awe> what kind of info do you want?  The source should be available by now...
[21:15] <BjornTore> whoop, up 'n running on N7
[21:15] <movabo> eth2: i can
[21:15] <mhall119> DrHalan: https://launchpad.net/phone-app perhaps?
[21:16] <cb___> where the download page on the website?
[21:16] <F41LB0t> cb___, (auto-response) The installation instructions (from Ubuntu) are located at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[21:16] <mhall119> DrHalan: also https://launchpad.net/telepathy-ofono
[21:16] <w00tc0d3> how to compile?
[21:16] <sjmulder> silly question perhaps, but you do you quit an app?
[21:16] <DrHalan> mhall119: thanks!
[21:16] <awe> thanks mhall119
[21:16] <Warriorlite> Why Ubuntu don't recognize my ubuntu phone ?
[21:16] <sjmulder> or remove it from the running apps list
[21:17] <rmeyerriecks> Having trouble downloading the image from cdimage.ubuntu.com any better mirrors?
[21:17] <mhall119> rmeyerriecks: nope
[21:17] <Mad_Gouki> sjmulder: pull up from the bottom and highlight the little magnifying glass, then press the X
[21:17] <mhall119> sjmulder: https://plus.google.com/u/0/109919666334513536939/posts/ELTLYHFqNdo
[21:17] <fedya|2> Hello guys.
[21:17] <fedya|2> How i can flash ubuntu to nexus4?
[21:17] <crugeman> greetings, I just finished the Nexus 10 install and there is no phablet account.  Did I get a bad load? Guest account only available
[21:18] <mhall119> fedya|2: follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[21:18] <redbmk> pmcgowan, where do you find that script?
[21:18] <RiXtEr> mhall119, any chance of seeing a toro build soon ?
[21:18] <sjmulder> Mad_Gouki, mhall119  thanks
[21:18] <Mad_Gouki> sjmulder: np
[21:18] <fedya|2> mhall119: it's looks like as instructions for nexus7 :3
[21:18] <alan___> Hey all, anyone fixed a black screen after flashing on a nexus 4? any ideas?
[21:18] <dutchschultz> so can i install ubuntu on a yakjuvx
[21:19] <redbmk> pmcgowan, nvm - but I don't have wifi on my desktop so that doesn't help
[21:19] <DrHalan> is there any reason for not using libgwibber on the phone? would be cool to have a unified social steam
[21:19] <DrHalan> stream*
[21:19] <mhall119> fedya|2: it should work for all devices
[21:19] <ProGEEK> alan___, what file did you flash ?
[21:19] <crugeman> Is there supposed to be a setup for first load? or how do I inject an account to use the tablet?
[21:19] <fedya|2> mhall119: ok thanks for help
[21:19] <cb___> is flashing just the two zips the same as flashing the images?
[21:20] <mhall119> DrHalan: libgwibber is being replaced by libfriends
[21:20] <mhall119> crugeman: no setup, it's filled with mock data, it's a developer preview not a user-ready image
[21:21] <katz> any plans on supporting toro? / CDMA?
[21:21] <cb___>  is flashing just the two zips the same as flashing the images?
[21:21] <crugeman> ok was looking at the release notes and no phablet account
[21:21] <sjmulder> I love the UI, good job
[21:21] <F41LB0t> crugeman, (auto-response) Release notes are located at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes
[21:21] <Pocketnowfan> Mad_Gouki So what should I do now? Does it work with CM or anything EXCEPT Ubuntu?
[21:21] <jdawes> I've tried out Ubuntu for phone but need to put Android back on for my app development, the "adb reboot-bootloader" hangs, anyone else encounter this issue? I can't seem to get the reboot go through, I let it sit for over an hour.
[21:21] <DrHalan> mhall119: okay cool. but there is no unified social client (yet?)
[21:21] <sergiusens> jdawes: adb reboot bootloader
[21:21] <jdawes> lol
[21:21] <sergiusens> jdawes: no dash
[21:21] <Mad_Gouki> Pocketnowfan: what? you need to do it through ubuntu. It's just a dev build, gonna reinstall android on my nexus 7 now.
[21:21] <katz> any plans on supporting toro? / CDMA?
[21:21] <alan___> progeek I flashed the occam file for nexus 4 from the ubuntu site
[21:21] <mhall119> DrHalan: not yet but libfriends is most likely what will power it
[21:22] <jdawes> oh, the website lists a dash
[21:22] <sjmulder> is it possible to modify the left bar yet?
[21:22] <UncountedGnome> katz
[21:22] <UncountedGnome> check the XDA page
[21:22] <UncountedGnome> for toro
[21:22] <UncountedGnome> there is a port
[21:22] <mhall119> katz: there's an image on XDA forums for toro, but without the radio working
[21:22] <ProGEEK> alan___, what about the phablet file, the 400 meg one, flash that too ?
[21:22] <alan___> sorry for the delay, was trying to figure out how to repond to you :/
[21:22] <katz> Thank you, I was looking for it
[21:22] <UncountedGnome> yeah, data doesn't work though :/
[21:22] <jdawes> sergiusens: is the "bootloader" supposed to be the filename of the bootloader image or just the text "bootloader"?
[21:22] <Pocketnowfan> Mad_Gouki Ok but How does it feel is it fluent?
[21:22] <sergiusens> jdawes: the text
[21:23] <UncountedGnome> it isn't supported in the GSM image either though
[21:23] <sergiusens> jdawes: or power off and just boot holding power and all volume buttons
[21:23] <stellarhopper__> well somebody's servers are loded up
[21:23] <mhall119> calls and sms should work on GSM phones, but not CDMA
[21:23] <alan___> now that i think about it, i didnt need that file i downloaded
[21:23] <k1l_> couldnt find marks number in the demo :)
[21:23] <llstarks> if anyone is interested in porting to the north american galaxy s3, we're talking it over in #verizons3 and #d2common
[21:23] <alan___> i then got an unbuntu machione, ran the lines the guide asked to run in the terminal
[21:23] <JosiahOne> Does anyone know if there is Google voice yet?
[21:23] <katz> Thank you very much! It might be nice if that link was mentioned by canonical
[21:24] <shayaliz> sergiusens, thanks! it's working now! glad to have guys like you in the comm, keep on with the good job!
[21:24] <UncountedGnome> if you want to manually download them, they're on cdimages.ubuntu or whatever
[21:24] <alan___> so i thikn all i flashed is phablet...
[21:24] <alan___> it downloaded a few files
[21:24] <stellarhopper__> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/quantal/mwc-demo/quantal-preinstalled-system-armel+manta.img
[21:24] <stellarhopper__> actually downloading it (via the phablet thingy's wget) now..
[21:24] <Chris____> thanks stellarhopper, thats just what i was going to ask about
[21:24] <alan___> phablet-flash -b
[21:25] <jdawes> sergiusens: is that all the command does? god, you'd think I'd know that. Thanks.
[21:25] <stellarhopper__> I know right! :P
[21:25] <swinchen> So....  how is it?!?  I am sad I have a Toro in my pocket.  Let me live vicariously through you... how is it?
[21:25] <ProGEEK> hrm, thats all i did
[21:26] <maxjezy> its really not that bad, but  definitly not good.
[21:26] <maxjezy> it's like nuts, for an nutalergic person
[21:26] <sjmulder> it’s a shame how relatively few demo apps there are, means you don’t have good examples for your own apps
[21:26] <sergiusens> jdawes: yup, takes you to the bootloader :-)
[21:26] <swinchen> That is sad.  Based on the demo I expected pure awesomeness.
[21:27] <mhall119> swinchen: it's a developer preview
[21:27] <mhall119> it will be awesome when it's done
[21:27] <alan___> and it worked for you, i imagine?
[21:27] <swinchen> mhall119: True.
[21:27] <maxjezy> mhall119: are you 100%possitive?
[21:27] <mhall119> sjmulder: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps
[21:27] <alan___> were you on a stock image or a CM rom?
[21:27] <mhall119> maxjezy: I am :)
[21:27] <maxjezy> i think it's going to have a hard time keeping up with androidy
[21:28] <alan___> ALL GOOD it worked
[21:28] <seth> hey guys
[21:28] <wolfnumba1> Hello all
[21:28] <eth2> it doesnt really have to keep up with android, it has to get an awesome open platform (in my opinion)
[21:28] <madhatter2> Hi. I just flashed my GNexus, and i've black screen. However the phone is seen by adb, and i can get the recovery mode. Is there something i can do ?
[21:29] <wolfnumba1> can anybody assist with flashing ubuntu preview to nexus 7 3G model?
[21:29] <Mad_Gouki> If ubuntu tablet gets steam, it will win my tablet.
[21:29] <swinchen> I will be interested to see how smooth the interface is/becomes.  Android is a bit choppy
[21:29] <mhall119> maxjezy: I expect we'll have more developers working on it than Android (eventually anyway)
[21:29] <seth> I've run into an issue trying to install to my nexus 7. Everything downloads and it moves the file to /sdcard/autodeploy.zip then says the device needs to be unlocked for it to work. my tablet is unlocked though
[21:29] <F41L> ogra_, some people are saying that ubuntu phone os is technically an android manufacturer skin, since it runs atop CM, what sort of response do you have to say about that?
[21:29] <sjmulder> mhall119: still very bare bones but a good starting point at least
[21:29] <Mad_Gouki> seth: just wait, it should work at that point
[21:30] <mzanetti_> madhatter2: try manually reflashing the two zip files in /sdcard/ when in recovery mode. If that doesn't work, download them again
[21:30] <dustyjam> i have now installed ubuntu and now there is this android guy with the progress bar but it is now loading for 5 minutes and does#t finish!
[21:30] <mhall119> sjmulder: yes, we released it early
[21:30] <Kyle> So, hmm, they didn't release the porting guide today? Shame shame.
[21:30] <madhatter2> mzanetti_: ok ;)
[21:30] <mhall119> so as to give community access to it
[21:30] <seth> Mad_Gouki: So I need to keep waiting where the terminal says < waiting for device>?
[21:30] <sjmulder> mhall119: took me a while to realise why calculator didn’t fit on screen, haha
[21:31] <ogra_> F41L, it is a full ubuntu rootfs running atop of an android that provides the hardware compatibility layer
[21:31] <Kitch> I don't now why I joined. I'm just gunna be sat here jealous because my phone doesn't have it
[21:31] <sjmulder> mhall119: very happy about the early release though, community involvement is important
[21:31] <dustyjam> i have now installed ubuntu and now there is this android guy with the progress bar but it is now loading for 5 minutes and does#t finish!
[21:31] <mhall119> sjmulder: +1
[21:31] <tyler-baker> Flashing my N10 now
[21:31] <mhall119> dustyjam: it took >10minutes on my nexus 7
[21:31] <tyler-baker> excited
[21:32] <Kyle> Kitch: Eh, sooner or later it may get ported to your device
[21:32] <DrHalan> okay seems like sms is alsohandled via telepathy. so the phone app could be extended to also support xmpp and other protocols :)
[21:32] <eth2> but there is no dalvik vm isnt it?
[21:32] <Kitch> Flashing my toaster now
[21:32] <wolfnumba1> anybody have success flashing to nexus 7 3G model?
[21:32] <F41L> ogra_, are there plans to roll a custom hardware compatability layer to differentiate ubuntu OS moreso significantly to keep people from relating it to Android?
[21:32] <dustyjam> mhall110: ok thanks :)
[21:32] <sjmulder> just to be sure, JavaScript is the #1 language for building apps right, even “native” ones? that’s what I should be focussing on?
[21:32] <jbooth> mhall119: Any comment on what parts of Qt5 we should expect to work? Camera clearly since there's an ubuntu app that uses it. What about others like accelerometer?
[21:33] <Kitch> +Kyle The nexus s has pretty much ceased active development now so yeah :( sad day for me
[21:33] <mhall119> DrHalan: feel free to submit those :)
[21:33] <madhatter2> Kitch: Ubuntu is ported on toasters ?? Nice ! I'll try with mine someday :D
[21:33] <topshelf> dank101: Why hardware drivers sit below dalvik vm anyway?
[21:33] <pmcgowan> jbooth: sensors will work
[21:33] <mhall119> jbooth: I don't have a list, but really anything reasonable should work (eventually)
[21:33] <jbooth> I wonder what I'm doing wrong. Okay, I'll keep beating on it.
[21:33] <NoHell> Hi all, i'm kind od stuck just after : adb kill-server; adb start-server
[21:33] <DrHalan> mhall119: hopefullly i will find some time to contribute a little. the code seems nice and clean
[21:33] <topshelf> dank101: Or did I misread something, which I think I did :-P
[21:33] <tyler-baker> jbooth, can you get an adb shell?
[21:34] <NoHell> When I plug my Nexus 4 there are no popup
[21:34] <F41L> NoHell, what version of android?
[21:34] <NoHell> 4.2.2
[21:34] <tyler-baker> jbooth, some debug may be helpful
[21:34] <dank101> i am making a better auto-installer
[21:34] <F41L> USB debugging enabled, NoHell?
[21:34] <Kitch> SUB DEBUGGING ENABLED!
[21:34] <NoHell> That's where I failed so far
[21:34] <jbooth> tyler-baker: sure, what do I try to dig out of the shell?
[21:34] <seth> When the install script is done copying the files and the device resets it'll go to the bootloader and I should let it sit there?
[21:34] <F41L> NoHell, cant usb debug
[21:34] <F41LB0t> F41L, (auto-response) For Android 4.2 and greater, one must repeatedly tap the build version under the "About Phone" section of android settings to enable the "Developer Settings" menu, where one can then enable USB Debugging.
[21:34] <tyler-baker> jbooth, dmesg
[21:34] <Theo__> Can I only install this from a computer running Ubuntu desktop?
[21:34] <NoHell> I'm a second day user of ubuntu... :S
[21:35] <tyler-baker> jbooth, throw it in pastebin
[21:35] <Kitch> How do I tag people in pastebin
[21:35] <Kitch> fuck
[21:35] <Yugge> Theo__: I installed mine from linux mint
[21:35] <Kitch> I'll start again
[21:35] <topshelf> It's a bit disturbing that they basically want the community to finish the development off, seems very ropey. Even for devs!
[21:35] <Kitch> How do I mention people on IRC
[21:35] <thequestion> Installing from Fedora ATM
[21:35] <Theo__> can I install from Mac or Vista?
[21:35] <F41L> Kitch, type part of their name and hit tab (it depends on your IRC client)
[21:36] <Kitch> F41L: cheers dude
[21:36] <jbooth> tyler-baker: Uhh let me see about that. Its long :-)
[21:36] <Yugge> topshelf: wanting the community to supply the apps is standard linux thinking
[21:36] <madhatter2> Theo__ : I tested it on Debian Wheezy.
[21:36] <NoHell> afk
[21:36] <topshelf> Yugge: I get the apps bit, but is seems quite a bit of the core functionality is very much unfinished
[21:36] <ogra_> F41L, well, we will go on using android kernels and drivers but integrate everything better in ubuntu over time
[21:36] <tyler-baker> jbooth, ya it will tell me if there is a kernel issue or not
[21:36] <jbooth> tyler-baker: Do you need it back to timestamp 0?
[21:36] <josh__> does anyone know how long it takes when pushing to /sdcard/autodeploy.zip
[21:36] <jbooth> If so, let me restart the phone.
[21:37] <tyler-baker> jbooth, no just let me see what you have
[21:37] <thecowking> josh__ a long time
[21:37] <Javierb> hi everibody
[21:37] <LorkScorguar> hi all
[21:37] <pigeonor> how come no toro support?
[21:37] <pigeonor> :(
[21:37] <topshelf> Yugge: I suppose a lot can happen in 7 months.
[21:37] <Yugge> topshelf: I'm thinking they just haven't gotten to it yet. Remember that it's a early early alpha
[21:37] <josh__> hahah @thecowking Thanks I guess
[21:37] <F41L> pigeonor, as far as I know there are toro images
[21:37] <Yugge> :)
[21:37] <DrHalan> ah okay there is this QtContact module that is already used in MeeGo (an also in Mer i guess)
[21:37] <mhall119> topshelf: it's a developer preview, the core isn't finished yet, but it's open to community contributors now
[21:38] <pigeonor> F41L: saw mark shuttleworths video showing his verizon phone
[21:38] <topshelf> Yugge: Bit too early is my thinking :-P
[21:38] <madhatter2> How fast is it supposed to boot ?
[21:38] <F41L> pigeonor, hence why I said I believe there are toro images in the download repo
[21:38] <mhall119> topshelf: some would argue that it's not early enough
[21:38] <Javierb> does anyone have problems to retrieve the phablet packages also?
[21:38] <pigeonor> hmm, need to find it
[21:38] <BjornTore> Be warned, you can't do jack on it yet besides developing.
[21:39] <madhatter2> Javierb: nope
[21:39] <Yugge> topshelf: I dunno, kinda stoked that I can make apps already :)
[21:39] <F41L> cough, gsm data
[21:39] <F41LB0t> F41L, (auto-response) The current "official" Ubuntu Phone release does not have GSM Data capability (yet, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes#Telephony), but unofficial sources say there is a fix to possibly enable data usage: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38295234
[21:39] <mhall119> BjornTore: hence why it's called a developer preview :)
[21:39] <BjornTore> yea ;) I'm a dev, don't worry
[21:39] <topshelf> mhall119: I suppose, guess in phone land, we've kinda become accustomed to the release of something pretty well polished from the off.
[21:39] <topshelf> Yugge: Definitely great about making apps now.
[21:39] <mhall119> topshelf: only because we've become accustomed to closed development
[21:40] <iComputerz> Can you install Ubuntu Touch on any Android phone or tablet?
[21:40] <jbooth> tyler-baker: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1701871/
[21:40] <mhall119> iComputerz: no
[21:40] <iComputerz> Ok, so only the Nexus lineup?
[21:40] <topshelf> mhall119: I hear that.
[21:41] <F41L> iComputerz, for now, yes. Until the community porting begins
[21:41] <mhall119> iComputerz: yes, Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 4, Nexus 7 and Nexus 10
[21:41] <iComputerz> Ok, thanks!
[21:41] <mhall119> yeah, XDA developers have already started, so keep an eye our for new ports
[21:41] <tyler-baker> jbooth, looks like android came up
[21:41] <tyler-baker> jbooth, what are you seeing on your screen?
[21:41] <jbooth> tyler-baker: Yeah, I can deploy and run my app
[21:42] <jbooth> Its that I'm having trouble getting the app to read anything off the accelerometer.
[21:42] <tyler-baker> ah
[21:42] <topshelf> mhall119: The web-based apps are pretty sucky ATM. I'm looking forward to it.
[21:42] <topshelf> mhall119: Interesting times are afoot, most definitely.
[21:42] <Causalon> Not work on my nexus 7 :(
[21:42] <Causalon> i dont now why...
[21:43] <Yugge> Causalon: How far did you get?
[21:43] <mhall119> Causalon: how far did you get and what error?
[21:43] <topshelf> mhall119: Wondering how much of Android market share is the low-mid emerging markets?
[21:43] <mhall119> topshelf: I don't have any numbers
[21:43] <topshelf> mhall119: Cos I see Ubuntu taking nearly half of that off of Android.
[21:44] <mhall119> I don't think it's much though, those markets are still dominated by other OSes
[21:44] <tvoss> jbooth, how are you trying to access the accelerometer?
[21:44] <Causalon> mhall119:  non, just rebooyt on installing process
[21:44] <Javierb> can someone help me, i have an error 404 when i try to update the phablet packages.... i don't know how to solve that
[21:44] <sha> hey, is ubuntu-phone only a chroot inside a full android-system (like a "guest")? or is ubuntu-phone an own hostsystem, based on an android kernel?
[21:44] <Theo__> man, I've got to try this - looks great! Is there a mac or windows equivalent to /etc/apt/sources.list file
[21:44] <Causalon> sorry for my english :)
[21:44] <mcfarke311> hey guys, I was just curious if anyone thinks that this will ever be able to be run on a motorola atrix 2
[21:44] <mhall119> mcfarke311: if someone ports it there it will
[21:44] <MostHated> any word on a nexus 4 dual boot yet?
[21:45] <eMinja> getting stuck at pushing autodeploy .zip to nexus 7
[21:45] <mcfarke311> ok... I have a nexus 7 so I was going to give it a shot on that, but I would really love to have it on my phone
[21:45] <Yugge> sha: ogra_ |  it is a full ubuntu rootfs running atop of an android that provides the hardware compatibility layer
[21:45] <weisso5> eMinja, just wait it out adb push is a slow process
[21:45] <mcfarke311> Ubuntu phone looks beautiful
[21:45] <Causalon> eMinja:  how you do hat??}
[21:45] <restore_android> how long til beta? anyone know?
[21:46] <Yugge> Some months?
[21:46] <Yugge> I guess?
[21:46] <wastrel> the announcement said fall 2013 for release
[21:46] <wastrel> so i guess beta must be summer at the latest
[21:46] <Causalon> some tutorial abou how installing ??
[21:46] <F41LB0t> Causalon, (auto-response) The installation instructions (from Ubuntu) are located at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[21:46] <F41L> wastrel, that is for the first phones to market, I believe official "release" is going to be 14.04
[21:46] <juliank89> Buenas tardes, alguien que me pueda ayudar en Español
[21:47] <mcfarke311> that sounds pretty awesome. I can't wait until they start selling phones with ubuntu on them
[21:47] <sha> Yugge: what do you mean exactly with "running atop of an android"? is it an android-fork?
[21:47] <DavidJFulde> wastrel it was pushed to Q1 14
[21:47] <bpultimate> sha: It runs in chroot
[21:47] <wastrel> good to know
[21:47] <Causalon> F41LB0t: i follow the instruction, but dont work on my nexus 7
[21:47] <F41L> sha, it uses CM10.1 as a hardware compatability layer, running ubuntu rootfs
[21:47] <ogra_> sha, it uses the android kernel and hardware access layer and an ubuntu on top
[21:48] <mcfarke311> would you be able to keep your google play apps and such when running ubuntu?
[21:48] <JhosmanU> I have a question, I have no idea and want to install Ubuntu Phone by Motorola Defy + if it does not work, I can do recovery (via Windows) with RDS Lite?, as the Wiki says it will erase all the data, I have a doubt if this method include phone recovery  http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1100585
[21:48] <F41LB0t> JhosmanU, (auto-response) There are currently no "official" instructions for installing without the provided flash tool (yet), stay tuned! However, you can try http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38285911#post38285911
[21:48] <Onlydole> How do I flash my Nexus 7 using Virtualbox on mac?
[21:48] <sha> and the "ubuntu rootfs" is only in a chroot?
[21:48] <Causalon> just reboot on midle of instalation process
[21:48] <mark_____> I've flashed through adb about 3 times but keep getting the black screen on my Nexus 7. I've pushed both zips to sdcard and one (armel+grouper)installs in a matter of seconds but the other (phablet-armhf) has been stuck at about 75% for at least half an hour.
[21:48] <tyler-baker> Anyone know where the daily builds are being published?
[21:48] <jbooth> tvoss: Through QML and QtSensors 5.0's Accelerometer "object"
[21:49] <mark_____> Little droid guy is just standing there with his guts out and Extracing the ubuntu rootfstarball....... is displayed
[21:49] <DeWitt> hey guys
[21:49] <Yugge> mark_____: that step took me like 15 min
[21:49] <mark_____> Any suggestions? I'd like to at least see it once before I put JB back on
[21:49] <Theo__> guys surely can install from Mac right? Or just from Ubuntu at the mo. (well ur instructions)
[21:49] <JhosmanU> That is, restoring my own rom on my own (as if android had brikead)
[21:49] <mark_____> Yugge: you're a magician, you replyed and the next step popped up :D
[21:49] <thequestion> Galaxy Nexus, Ubuntu booting... (Droid, with grey background and progress bar)
[21:50] <eMinja> Causalon how do it hat??
[21:50] <tyler-baker> I have it working from a Mac
[21:50] <tyler-baker> You need to get the binaries and compile adb and fastboot
[21:50] <F41L> tyler-baker, write a guide!
[21:50] <Yugge> mark_____: :D Glad you got through :D
[21:50] <tyler-baker> Sure thing
[21:50] <Causalon> wait!!! its works!!! omg i so exited XD
[21:50] <Onlydole> How do you do it with mac?
[21:50] <bpultimate> Onlydole: use adb
[21:50] <Onlydole> I can't find how to install those dang Phablet tools?
[21:50] <F41LB0t> Onlydole, (auto-response) The installation instructions (from Ubuntu) are located at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[21:50] <mark_____> rebooting now. Fingers crossed
[21:50] <JhosmanU>  I have a question, I have no idea and want to install Ubuntu Phone by Motorola Defy + if it does not work, I can do recovery (via Windows) with RDS Lite?, as the Wiki says it will erase all the data, I have a doubt if this method include phone recovery
[21:51] <F41L> JhosmanU, I don't believe that phone has a port yet.
[21:51] <bpultimate> JhosmanU:  jeez man. It is not possible ATM. ONly Nexus devices supported
[21:51] <dustyjam> the OS is so laggy, at the moment i restore my android backup!
[21:51] <wastrel> dustyjam: what device?
[21:51] <dustyjam> galaxy nexus
[21:51] <wastrel> ah i have that
[21:51] <crugeman> Anyone notice the Nexus 10 image doesn't have the Phablet dev account?
[21:51] <Yugge> Onlydole, Theo__ : The official flash tools are linux only.
[21:52] <wastrel> people with nexus 4 are saying it's not slow on that
[21:52] <mzanetti_> crugeman: it does for sure :)
[21:52] <JhosmanU> bpultimate: If that I know and have read that you can only with Nexus, but I like to play to see results, if it does not work, restore it.
[21:52] <Onlydole> what's the ADB command to get it on the device?
[21:52] <crugeman> not showing up on my load :(
[21:52] <thequestion> reboot
[21:52] <mzanetti_> crugeman: its not on the login screen. its the account for the ubuntu base system. ssh etc
[21:53] <dustyjam> is that possible that ski safari is only an image?
[21:53] <F41L> Onlydole, only official method is using the ubuntu tools, you can try the XDA method.
[21:53] <thequestion> yeah !! It w[r]orks !!
[21:53] <DeWitt> Is anyone else's Galaxy Nexus very laggy?
[21:53] <crugeman> already did only got the 4 dummy accounts
[21:53] <mark_____> Yugge: Damn, still got the black screen :( Back to android for now then and I'll try again at the weekend.
[21:53] <dustyjam> yes mine!!
[21:53] <BLAKE_> dang alot of people.....
[21:54] <dustyjam> DeWitt: yes mine...
[21:54] <crugeman> thanks will look more int that
[21:54] <Yugge> mark_____: wait a bit more, there is no boot splash and takes a while to load
[21:54] <DeWitt> It is usuable, but not perfect
[21:54] <marugby123> does anyone know if there is a video on how to do this on a nexus 4 on tmobile?
[21:54] <mark_____> Yugge: Ah right. i'll stick the kettle on then :)
[21:54] <juicyjones> so it's just as simple as downloading the two zips and flashing them in recovery isn't it?
[21:54] <thequestion> Home screen not laggy for me (Galaxy Nexus)
[21:54] <Theo__> hmm tnk should write guides for other OSs, as this will appeal to people not running Linux on desktop....
[21:55] <tvoss> jbooth, looking ...
[21:55] <Causalon> in my blog you can read my first impression about ubuntu os on N7 ,this looks great XD
[21:55] <thequestion> Smooth animations
[21:55] <DeWitt> Nice
[21:55] <roxkYu> may i know the link for the download of the image..thanks.
[21:55] <F41L> where download
[21:55] <F41LB0t> F41L, (auto-response) The installation instructions (from Ubuntu) are located at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[21:55] <Onlydole> Is there any documentation on the XDA method?
[21:55] <DeWitt> I'll try to reflash and see if that helps
[21:56] <thequestion> Very little "freeze" in Gallery when scrolling up/down
[21:56] <F41L> Onlydole, how install manual
[21:56] <F41LB0t> F41L, (auto-response) There are currently no "official" instructions for installing without the provided flash tool (yet), stay tuned! However, you can try http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38285911#post38285911
[21:56] <stellarhopper__> doh!! phablet-flash is just a python script!
[21:56] <Causalon> you now some blog whare devp write your firts contact <''
[21:56] <Causalon> ??
[21:57] <keever2> CDMA isnt supported?
[21:57] <eMinja> I love the provided flash tool
[21:57] <pigeonor> keever2: nope
[21:57] <keever2> stupid.
[21:57] <keever2> no support ever?
[21:57] <roxkYu> Thanks
[21:57] <eMinja> It gives ubuntu really easy to use ADB and fastboot commands
[21:57] <F41L> keever, known issues
[21:58] <F41LB0t> F41L, (auto-response) Release notes are located at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes
[21:58] <pmcgowan> keever2: its a preview release still working on it, also hope to get some help
[21:58] <neel_> After a reboot, I'm stuck at a black screen.
[21:58] <roxkYu> what's the experience of the GNex?
[21:58] <jbooth> tvoss: I found it. I needed to start my sensor. :-P
[21:58] <tvoss> jbooth, \o/
[21:58] <drakh> Hi!
[21:59] <Blix247> can anyone past teh contents of the phablet-flash script?
[21:59] <mhall119> jbooth: I'd love to see a screencast or something of what you're working on
[21:59] <keever2> man I was so pumped to flash it. Whats the worst that would happen if I still flashed anyway? The ril/radios wont work..?
[21:59] <drakh> On my GNx, I am stuck on what is supposed to be a lockscreen...what do I have to do, touchscreen doesn't do anything...
[21:59] <thequestion> roxkYu: Good for me, animations are sometime a little slow
[21:59] <ben1066> neel_: wait
[21:59] <ben1066> It takes a while
[21:59] <drakh> nevermind...
[21:59] <drakh> :-)
[22:00] <DeWitt> How does it run on the Galaxy Nexus?
[22:00] <roxkYu> ok
[22:00] <stellarhopper__> Blix247: http://pastebin.com/fvPFXYbS
[22:00] <madhatter2> ben1066: about how long ?
[22:00] <ben1066> I'm not sure
[22:00] <ben1066> Not for first boot, I wasn't timing :p
[22:00] <Sumesh> Is there a way to take screenshots?
[22:01] <NoHell> Thank's F4IL
[22:01] <madhatter2> :/
[22:01] <neel_> ben1066: ok, i have waited for 10 mins now
[22:01] <ben1066> That's probably too long
[22:01] <thequestion> DeWitt: Good for me, animations are sometime a little slow
[22:01] <ben1066> Are you sure it's on?
[22:02] <mark_____> madhatter2: I've been stuck on black screen for about 9-10 minutes now on my first boot.
[22:02] <neel_> okay I'll try flashing again I guess
[22:02] <Daenarys> Are you on WIndows?
[22:02] <neel_> yes it's on. i ran adb and it shows the device connected
[22:02] <dank101> Guys
[22:03] <dank101> a better way to do this is coming
[22:03] <dank101> only for Grouper
[22:03] <dank101> (Nexus7)
[22:03] <Daenarys> Oke, for Windows, flash the 2 zips files in CWM.
[22:03] <Daenarys> You dont need to flash the .img files
[22:03] <madhatter2> mark_____: And still black ?
[22:03] <brokedude> Hey guys! I just flashed everything following the official guide and all I get is a black screen on my N4. Any help?
[22:03] <Daenarys> 1 is for your device and 1 is for the Ubuntu file system
[22:04] <Daenarys> Are you on Windows?
[22:04] <mark_____> Yeah, I'm on an N7. I'm over the 10 min mark now.
[22:04] <ben1066> dank101: how do you mean a better way? It's pretty trivial :p
[22:05] <blacki> did anyone get over that >10min blank screen on the N7?
[22:05] <Daenarys> Dude listen.
[22:05] <juicyjones> yeah it's pretty trivial to download two zips and flash them if you've ever unlocked and rooted your phone. it *is* a developer preview after all
[22:05] <Daenarys> Flash this zip in CWM first quantal-preinstalled-armel+grouper.zip
[22:05] <thequestion> After a while, animations just run perfectly ! (Always at first boot ATM)
[22:05] <neel_> blacki: yes my gnex is stuck too
[22:05] <brokedude> So I'm assuming the black screen issue is common?
[22:05] <Daenarys> Its not a issue
[22:05] <Daenarys> its your fault
[22:06] <Daenarys> You need to flash the .zip files in CWM
[22:06] <Daenarys> not any fastboot images
[22:06] <F41L> I'll flash YOUR zip files.
[22:06] <F41L> mmm
[22:06] <mark_____> Daenarys: I did that and I still have the black screen
[22:06] <brokedude> I mean, how is it my fault if I am following the official guide from canonical?
[22:06] <ben1066> I think flashing the boot image would be smart too
[22:06] <ben1066> Im not sure if it ships a different kernel
[22:07] <ben1066> Well it almost certainly does
[22:07] <pmcgowan> mark_____: brokedude can you guys check the sapce on your sdcard
[22:07] <F41L> brokedude, it's not, it's a developer preview, things happen. If you think it is a bug, report it!
[22:07] <Daenarys> Format system etc first
[22:07] <F41L> brokedude, where bug
[22:07] <NoHell> Now my USB debugging is enabled but nothing appear on my screen after pluging my device ...
[22:07] <mark_____> pmcgowan: is there an adb command for that?
[22:07] <NoHell> after adb kill-server; adb start-server
[22:07] <pmcgowan> adb shell df should work
[22:08] <F41L> NoHell, try adb devices
[22:08] <F41L> and: adb root
[22:08] <NoHell> i'll
[22:08] <pmcgowan> also get output of adb logcat and see if it complained in there
[22:08] <Daenarys> For Nexus 7 flash quantal-preinstalled-armel+grouper.zip and quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip in CWM recovery.
[22:08] <brokedude> F41L How do I check space if it's in a black screen? ADB is  working but I do not know how to check.
[22:08] <weisso5> brokedude, $adb logcat
[22:09] <F41L> not sure, brokedude. Have you tried doing a fastboot wipe of user data?
[22:09] <mark_____> pmcgowan: df doesn't show sdcard. At least I mean I cant
[22:09] <F41L> or what weisso5 said.
[22:09] <rmeyerriecks> how do I close a running app?
[22:09] <mark_____> pmcgowan: .....see it
[22:10] <brokedude> F41L Ill try wiping in fastboot, I do think I was running low on memory
[22:10] <Nando> So I just tried to install the touch preview on my Nexus 7 and it told me I was using an unsupported device. Any advice?
[22:10] <pmcgowan> rmeyerriecks: long swipe up from bottom edge reveals the HUD option
[22:10] <robin-gloster_> mhall119 is a music player being worked on?
[22:10] <DavidJFulde> rmeyerriecks swipe from the bottom to ~centre (to the little Magnifying glass icon) and then click the little X
[22:11] <mmike|2> my tilapia runs ubuntu touch...
[22:11] <sociallymellow> Hey guys!  Just flashed ubuntu to my Nexus 4, anyone else?
[22:11] <pmcgowan> mark_____: adb shell df /sdcard/
[22:12] <mark_____> pmcgowan: Just realised the /data is the sdcard isn't it? 12.7 of 13.2 GB used
[22:12] <Nando> So I just tried to install the touch preview on my Nexus 7 and it told me I was using an unsupported device. Any advice?
[22:12] <pmcgowan> mark_____: yeah thats probably the issue
[22:12] <CharlyDigital> great look and excited for a more polished build.
[22:12] <pmcgowan> need to clean it up then try again
[22:12] <segfaul> Is your device running a custom rom?
[22:12] <brokedude> Nando, make sure you have ADB enabled and screen is on
[22:12] <mark_____> pmcgowan: I'll give it a shot. Cheers
[22:12] <segfaul> I'm stuck at the pushing to /sdcard
[22:12] <sociallymellow> ^ should it be on stock android before flashing this?
[22:12] <tanner_> hi. i cant get the source to load when i apt-get update . keeps giving me 404 not found error
[22:12] <Nando> Brokedude, alright lemme try
[22:13] <sociallymellow> I am running Xylon Rom and trying to install ubuntu now, hope it works
[22:13] <Sumesh> Adb works when I'm on Ubuntu touch, but after I do reboot-bootloader, it doesn't detect the phone.
[22:13] <CharlyDigital> gmail is wonky lets you sign in then shows email for a split second before giving a Network Error and will not refresh
[22:13] <tanner_> i can not update my sources. when i apt-get reload it gives me a 404 not found error...
[22:14] <seanfell> go back to developer mode and select usb debugging
[22:14] <sergiusens> Nando: if by any chance your device is not supported, use -d to tell it what you have
[22:14] <sociallymellow> Hey guys, ubuntu touch erases like clockwork recovery etc correct?
[22:14] <bpultimate> tanner_: try apt-get update
[22:14] <Sumesh> It installs its own custom recovery(CWM)
[22:14] <tanner_> ok
[22:15] <tanner_> : Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/phablet-team/tools/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found
[22:15] <Nando> Brokedude, sergiusens, the flash is proceeding as expected no, thanks for the help.
[22:15] <Nando> now*
[22:15] <brokedude> Nando no prob.
[22:16] <mainerror> Soooo, I'm installing now. :)
[22:16] <sergiusens> Nando: welcome
[22:16] <tanner_> : Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/phablet-team/tools/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found
[22:16] <efuller> I need help
[22:16] <efuller> Please
[22:16] <johncrist1988> Are there going to be nightly updates or anything like that planned?
[22:16] <sergiusens> sociallymellow: yes, but you can workaround that, what recovery do you have?
[22:16] <popey> tanner_: lucid isnt supported
[22:16] <mcfarke311> I'm really looking forward for this coming out on other devices although I do have a nexus 7
[22:16] <popey> tanner_: you need to be on 12.04 or above
[22:16] <segfaul> How do you mount it, I plug my Nexus 7 in and it doesn't do anything. Debugging is turned on
[22:16] <llstarks> if anyone is interested in porting to the north american galaxy s3, we're talking it over in #verizons3 and #d2common
[22:17] <tanner_> oh ok thanks popey
[22:17] <efuller> I did a Fastboot OEM Unlock and the Nexus 10 doesnt Reboot
[22:17] <efuller> Help Me?
[22:17] <sergiusens> tanner_: you can try and backport by branching lp:phablet-tools
[22:17] <robertjw> i just tried out the touch developer preview on the Nexus 7 and am having trouble with the browser.  Is there  a known bug with entry of text in forms, or am I doing something wrong?
[22:18] <jackel> hello
[22:18] <CharlyDigital> browser worked fine here while entering text
[22:18] <bcooper> Does anyone think I could flash it on my Sprint Galaxy Nexus? I have no need for service, so that isn't a worry for me.
[22:18] <sociallymellow> sergiusens: sorry i was afk, sucessfully got Ubuntu Touch on my Nexus 4 running on a custom rom. LOVE it.
[22:18] <robertjw> one one character is being accepted in text fields for me on a nexus 7
[22:18] <bobsmith> ANY PORT FOR TORO?
[22:19] <sociallymellow> Did anyone else get a BUNCH of generic messages when they first loaded ubuntu touch?
[22:19] <jackel> so I've installed to the nexus 7
[22:19] <bcooper> Actually, even if I tried flashing it on my Sprint GNex, would I still be able to flash back to android even if it didn't work?
[22:20] <F41L> bobsmith, not yet, as far as I know.
[22:20] <jackel> stupid question, how do I search?
[22:20] <F41L> bcooper, yes.
[22:20] <mainerror> efuller: Does it do anything or is it completely dead?
[22:20] <wastrel> sprint gnex is cdma isn't it?
[22:20] <bcooper> F41l: thanks :D Time to break stuff!
[22:20] <jounih> efuller: you might need to wipe your data
[22:20] <Nata> Solved my issue without ask any question, thank you :)
[22:20] <bcooper> wastrel: yes
[22:21] <mainerror> efuller: That shouldn't happen normally.
[22:21] <efuller> Any Ideas Why my Nexus 10 wont boot after a  boot unlock
[22:21] <jounih> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2065814
[22:21] <jounih> i had the same with nexus 10, had to wipe the data
[22:21] <efuller> I'm stuck at the X boot
[22:22] <jounih> efuller: check the link i posted
[22:22] <jounih> it works
[22:25] <Faustek> hmm, Sorry to disturb but just a quick question.
[22:26] <Faustek> After flashing, is it usual for the device to actually be stuck in "building" mode, pre-os-start that is.
[22:26] <maurice> hi all. Just installed ubuntu galaxy nexus, and it boots to entirely black screen is it a known issue?
[22:26] <Yugge> It takes a while to finish yes, and appears stuck on 75% procent
[22:27] <crypticmofo> your git is being raped
[22:27] <maurice> yeah, but it passed that 75%
[22:27] <Faustek> @Yugge scary..been stuck at that 75% for 10 minutes. You answer and screen turns completly black
[22:27] <meetingology> Faustek: Error: "Yugge" is not a valid command.
[22:27] <Faustek> Yugge scary..been stuck at that 75% for 10 minutes. You answer and screen turns completly black
[22:27] <maurice> and them was just black. unable to receive calls but visible via adb
[22:27] <HelpeRX> yo
[22:28] <HelpeRX> how can i get this on my d2vzw
[22:28] <HelpeRX> !!!
[22:28] <Nando> My current attempt to install the touch preview has my terminal stuck here: "Pushing /home/nano/Downloads/phablet-flash/95/quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip to /sdcard/autodeploy.zip¨ Advice?
[22:28] <Hey_MK> hey y'all, unbelievably great os
[22:28] <crypticmofo> lol HelpeRX  we got to wait .. HelpeRX im on a d2vzw also
[22:28] <Yugge> Faustek: that's the third time I hear that today :D
[22:28] <Yugge> heard*
[22:28] <weisso5> Nando, wait it out
[22:28] <jackel> fuck
[22:28] <edude03> efuller that's normal after an unlock sometimes, I think you have to fasboot -w right after IIRC
[22:28] <HelpeRX> NO I CNAT
[22:28] <HelpeRX> I ANT NOW!!~!
[22:28] <Hey_MK> but how can I make a call?
[22:28] <Faustek> Nando I had the same thing. It was just working in background, wait it out
[22:28] <efuller> THANKS Jounih!!! That step needs to be added to the tutorial.
[22:28] <andril> anyone else Lola Chang?
[22:28] <jerel> is there a way to download the image before attaching my device?
[22:28] <HelpeRX> OMG
[22:28] <HelpeRX> i wont make it
[22:28] <Faustek> Yugge: Meaning I just need to hard restart it?
[22:29] <HelpeRX> im suppsoed to die tomorrow
[22:29] <jounih> efuller: no probs :)
[22:29] <HelpeRX> so plz let me enjoy it today
[22:29] <Nando> weisso5, Faustek - Will do, thanks
[22:29] <Hey_MK> it didn't require a pin, I cannot make calls, help? >)
[22:29] <jackel> looking for hot singles in Tampa?
[22:29] <mainerror> o_O
[22:29] <jounih> Hey_MK: what device you got?
[22:29] <brillopad> jackel, no thanks
[22:29] <llstarks> HelpeRX, nobody is porting anything until tomorrow at the very least
[22:29] <HelpeRX> ....
[22:29] <llstarks> everything right now is just brute-forcing
[22:29] <Hey_MK> jounih: Galaxy Nexus GSM
[22:29] <HelpeRX> not fair
[22:29] <aidan__> hi
[22:29] <brillopad> HelpeRX, go whine somewhere else
[22:29] <andril> made a few calls and txt but once this is released it will be serious
[22:30] <jackel> ATTENTION TOO MANY WOMEN SIGN UP FOR FREE MEN
[22:30] <jounih> Hey_MK: should work ok. you got a sim card in?
[22:30] <HelpeRX> but
[22:30] <HelpeRX> but
[22:30] <HelpeRX> T_T
[22:30]  * brillopad gives HelpeRX a tissue
[22:30] <HelpeRX> so wil lsomone port it by tomorrow?
[22:30] <aidan__> is there instructions for dual booting on a nexus 7?
[22:30] <mainerror> jackel: What the hell?
[22:30] <Yugge> Hey_MK: I asked a mate to borrow his phone and then removed my pin code, then it worked.
[22:30] <andril> anyone else see this saving Nokia - the N9 came to mind just bigger 4.7 or 5 inch device
[22:30] <Hey_MK> jounih: Yeah, didn't even stick it out, it doesn't even request my pin when it boots up
[22:30] <jackel> so much BBC at pornhub
[22:31] <Yugge> Dunno if you can do it through ubuntu though =/
[22:31] <Hey_MK> Yugge: fuck, how am i supposed to do that now? :)
[22:31] <winglerw28> Does anybody else have a freezing issue at boot, stuck at lock screen with "14 tweets received"?
[22:31] <Hey_MK> Yugge: Nope, no settings whatsoever still
[22:31] <aidan__> is there instructions for dual booting on a nexus 7?
[22:31] <winglerw28> (I'm on a Nexus 4)
[22:31] <Yugge> winglerw28: swipe from left edge
[22:31] <winglerw28> It is frozen
[22:31] <jackel> guys, I jizzzed on my ubuntu shirt, anyway I can install Archjizz?
[22:31] <mainerror> aidan__: There's no dual-booting.
[22:31] <Faustek> Yugge: so instead of staring at the blank screen, whent back to adb to see if I could find the device it was there...pressed power button...it works :D
[22:31] <NoHell> I'm in pain following the process... adb do not see any phone connected. I'm certailny wrong somewhere.
[22:31] <jounih> no dual boot yet afaik… hopefully someone will implement soon
[22:32] <tyler-baker> Wow this is looking really nice on the N10
[22:32] <PhantomGamers> im trying to port this to the s3 but their git is being hammered
[22:32] <jackel> DAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAE DAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAEDAE
[22:32] <jackel> UBUNTU
[22:32] <jackel> UBUNTU
[22:32] <m7stic> whoah
[22:32] <brillopad> Can anyone ban this jackel idiot?
[22:32] <ulkesh> seriously
[22:32] <Xavierdarkness> Someone had too much sugar today.
[22:32] <mainerror> popey: Can you do something about this jackel guy?
[22:33] <brillopad> Oh hang on, there's an ignore option... woohoo!
[22:33] <winglerw28> Ok
[22:33] <Faustek> hmm.../ignore does not work in here
[22:33] <winglerw28> just unfroze
[22:33] <brillopad> Bye jackel, you bloody tool.
[22:33] <jackel>                         //\                           / | ;                           | /_|                         .-"`  `"-.                       /`          `\                      /              \                .-.,_|      .-""""-. |               |     `",_,-'  (((-. '(                \ (`"=._.'/   (  (o>'-`"#     ,           '.`"-'` /     `--`  '==;    /\\            `'--'`\         _.'~~   / | \                  `.,__
[22:33] <winglerw28> Is there any way to get data connectivity?
[22:33] <aidan__> cheers for that
[22:33] <jackel> put the charger in your ass
[22:33] <jounih> whatever happened to channel ops on irc
[22:33] <m7stic> the release image is a lot less refined that I thought it would be.
[22:33] <guest1_> dual-boot on n7 is working http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38300214#post38300214
[22:33] <efuller> ADB server on 4.2.2 HELP ? No key acception notice
[22:33] <aidan__> went out and got a nexus 7 today just for ubuntu
[22:34] <m7stic> efuller- do
[22:34] <aidan__> and I am a windows 8 programmer
[22:34] <speedRS> Hi. I', looking to install the new dev preview on my nexus7. Looking at the instructions, ubuntu itself seems to be a pre-req. has anyone installed it using recoverymod like clockworkmod or something similar?
[22:34] <brillopad> efuller - once you've done the developer tap thing, you'll get a developer options menu
[22:34] <Yugge> winglerw28: wi-fi yes, otherwise no
[22:34] <jackel> MODS ARE ASLEEP SEND ME PENIS PICS AND WINDOWS 8 PORN
[22:34] <rmeyerriecks> efuller: make sure your screen is unlocked
[22:34] <ulkesh> jounih: good question, i'm not sure why this place isn't being moderated..#ubuntu certainly is and they forward touch/phone stuff here
[22:34] <efuller> ok
[22:34] <brillopad> efuller: Make sure you go into that and enable USB Debugging
[22:34] <jackel> WINDOWS 8 SUCKSWINDOWS 8 SUCKSWINDOWS 8 SUCKSWINDOWS 8 SUCKSWINDOWS 8 SUCKSWINDOWS 8 SUCKSWINDOWS 8 SUCKSWINDOWS 8 SUCKSWINDOWS 8 SUCKSWINDOWS 8 SUCKSWINDOWS 8 SUCKSWINDOWS 8 SUCKSWINDOWS 8 SUCKSWINDOWS 8 SUCKSWINDOWS 8 SUCKSWINDOWS 8 SUCKSWINDOWS 8 SUCKSWINDOWS 8 SUCKSWINDOWS 8 SUCKSWINDOWS 8 SUCKSWINDOWS 8 SUCKSWINDOWS 8 SUCKSWINDOWS 8 SUCKSWINDOWS 8 SUCKSWINDOWS 8 SUCKSWINDOWS 8 SUCKSWINDOWS 8 SUCKSWINDOWS 8 SUCKSWINDOWS 8 
[22:34] <jackel> STEVE BALMER FTW
[22:35] <brillopad> Anyone else go to Woodward?
[22:35] <erry> jackel, hi, please stop that
[22:35] <brillopad> jackel: How's Woodward? Still full of cretins?
[22:35] <efuller> brillopad I Dont think the ADB server talked to the nexus 10
[22:35] <doomlord> go to iphone for those posts
[22:35] <brillopad> Muhahaha
[22:35] <Akiva-Thinkpad> what is the best opensource mapping technology
[22:35] <Nikez>  No rule to make target `ubuntu/assets/ubuntu_stamp' < =(
[22:35] <Akiva-Thinkpad> I don't thing googlemaps is opensource, is it?
[22:35] <brillopad> efuller: Try killing the adb-server and restarting
[22:36] <wastrel> Akiva-Thinkpad: there's openstreetmaps
[22:36] <efuller> ok
[22:36] <Faustek> Yugge: thanks and I'm out, back to the forums
[22:36] <chouchoune> Akiva-Thinkpad: openstreetmaps ?
[22:36] <Akiva-Thinkpad> and on that; what does ubuntu-phone intend to use?
[22:36] <m7stic> efuller- try using admin powers on it
[22:36] <Nikez> So does anyone have the sources for it yet?
[22:36] <Akiva-Thinkpad> wastrel: chouchoune: thats what I though; I don't think there are any other projects, is there?
[22:36] <chouchoune> Akiva-Thinkpad: whatever the "vendor" wishes, I guess ;)
[22:36] <efuller> DAEMON started successfully but nothing is working
[22:36] <Akiva-Thinkpad> thought*
[22:37] <Akiva-Thinkpad> chouchoune: I suppose.
[22:37] <DavidJFulde> for those wondering how to get around the UI: I threw this together http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WhueXPzT3pU
[22:37] <m7stic> thanks davidcalle
[22:37] <Rafase282> Hello everyone. My ubuntu instalation is messed up since updating to the latest kernel yesterday so I'm currently using windows. Is there a direct link to the images for mako and grouper?
[22:37] <chouchoune> I don't see the point for canonical to push one solution among others for that
[22:37] <m7stic> or DavidJFulde
[22:37] <DavidJFulde> :P
[22:38] <DavidJFulde> Rafase282 the video I just posted has a direct link in the Desc.
[22:38] <johncrist1988> When I'm running ifconfig, I get the error Warning: cannot open /proc/net/dev
[22:38] <Rafase282> Thanks
[22:38] <crypticmofo> DavidJFulde, nice cideo
[22:38] <efuller> HELP getting a Developer settings for Nexus 10 4.2.2
[22:39] <Bane`> hello
[22:39] <crypticmofo> DavidJFulde, nice video*
[22:39] <DavidJFulde> thanks crypticmofo :D share it around :)
[22:39] <llstarks> freenode free-for-all in here
[22:39] <llstarks> wow
[22:39] <johncrist1988> I'm doing this so I can ssh into the phone
[22:39] <baggers> hi folks, I have the ubuntu desktop build already on my nexus 7 and want to switch to the new tablet image. I have tried this http://sergiusens.github.com/posts/installing-ubuntu-touch-preview-on-the-nexus-7-with-ubuntu-on-it.html but after completing all the steps just got a black boot screen. Any ideas on how to tweak it into life?
[22:39] <F41LB0t> baggers, (auto-response) Information on how to obtain the source code and submit bugs/patches are located at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Contribute
[22:40] <popey> mainerror: sorry, was afk
[22:40] <PiZZaMartijn> efuller: Go to "About phone" and tap "Build number" 7 times
[22:40] <winglerw28> How can I put in my own contacts into the phone? Is there a settings page I'm being blind to?
[22:40] <efuller> ok
[22:40] <jounih> remember to quit the camera app once you're done with it folks ;) consuming a lot of ram/cpu in the background
[22:40] <ogra_> winglerw28, its described in the release notes
[22:40] <F41LB0t> ogra_, (auto-response) Release notes are located at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes
[22:40] <popey> F41LB0t: can you kill that bot please
[22:41] <popey> thanks F41L
[22:41] <efuller> THANKS PIZZ
[22:41] <winglerw28> oh thanks
[22:41] <jounih> DavidJFulde: nice video
[22:41] <mark_____> baggers: my N7 was on Andriod prior to this but it was almost full to bursting. I cleared a bunch of space and it booted much quicker
[22:41] <sergiusens> baggers: ah, asked you on #ubuntu-arm if you could try and wipe user data and sdcard before sideloading
[22:41] <DavidJFulde> Thanks jounih :) spread it around! :D
[22:41] <m7stic> DavidJFulde- good job on the video. Much needed.
[22:41] <johncrist1988> nvm, su - phablet did the trick. Odd. I would think root would be able to ifconfig w/out issue
[22:41] <winglerw28> sorry to be a bother, I actually didn't realize there was even a tutorial on the site for it, I had gotten the zipfiles by following a link on xda-developers
[22:42] <maurice> how long of that black screen would I approximately have to wait after first-run loading ends?
[22:42] <baggers> sergiusens: ahh will try that next, I'm currently running throug hte instructiosn again, sorry for jumping rooms! I realised I should have been here to begin with
[22:42] <roxkYu> for the ubuntu-phone image, will the Google Map still work?
[22:43] <n4> maps is not functioning yet
[22:43] <mainerror> roxkYu: In the browser probably.
[22:43] <jounih> DavidJFulde: that thing you're calling the settings app is the HUD
[22:43] <sergiusens> baggers: no worries...  wrote that really quick to help ubuntu desktop people try out this preview easily
[22:43] <Rafase282> Question, so I should flash quantal-preinstalled-armel+mako.zip and quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip is for both table and phone? so there should be two files to flash total?
[22:43] <F41L-Desktop> popey, don't like the auto-help? :(
[22:43] <DavidJFulde> jounih whoops! :P
[22:43] <sergiusens> baggers: I'm almost sure you had no space... will update that blog post
[22:43] <toro> where is toro support
[22:43] <popey> F41L-Desktop: we have a policy about bots
[22:43] <popey> !bots | F41L-Desktop
[22:43] <toro> I am disappointed
[22:43] <F41L-Desktop> I've been tweaking it and adding common triggers all morning!
[22:43] <n4> I need help reinstalling android. stuck on (wait for device)
[22:43] <tyler-baker> Is there a way to setup a bluetooth keyboard?
[22:44] <tyler-baker> I want to checkout desktop mode
[22:44] <mark_____> maurice: I tried it a few times and left it for 10 min+ but nothing loaded. I cleared some room on the sdcard and  re-flashed and it booted in less than a minute
[22:44] <popey> we already have a bot, and can add factoids to it
[22:44] <baggers> sergiusens: diamond, thanks for such a clear writup!
[22:44] <roxkYu> Thanks man.
[22:44] <F41L-Desktop> popey, that things sounds so useful popey. Since that's the first time I've even seen it say jack. :D
[22:44] <popey> hah
[22:44] <NoHell> F41L, whene I enter "adb root" it display "error: device not found" what should I do ? many thanks
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[22:44] <F41L-Desktop> NoHell, is your phone rooted?
[22:44] <fourfthawaiian> hi all
[22:44] <Nexus10> So I got mine installed... it's a Demo... you can't do anything.
[22:45] <fourfthawaiian> I've already had to restart once with extra space in my home directory
[22:45] <dummyan> hey guys I just pushed the system with phablet-flash, everything seemed nice, no errors or warnings and now my device is installing the system but looks kinda stuck. 10 minutes the progress bar isn't moving, is this normal?
[22:45] <n4> anyone have any luck reinstalling android im stuck
[22:45] <darkdragon001> I was trying to run the example app (currency converter) on my ubuntu nexus 4. I get the messages: "QOpenGLShader::link: "--From Fragment Shader: --From Vertex Shader: Link was successful." But actually nothing seems to appear on the device... Any idea?
[22:45] <fourfthawaiian> can anyone tell me how big the total downloads were?
[22:45] <llstarks> I EAT BABIES BECAUSE THERE ARE NO OPS HERE
[22:45] <fourfthawaiian> Would like to avoid that again.
[22:45] <Nexus10> Anyone else have this prefilled with other people and can't add anything new?
[22:45] <mainerror> Nexus10: Yea, it is an early developer preview.
[22:45] <NoHell> F41L, I think it's not rooted.
[22:45] <mainerror> llstarks: You should stop that or I'll summon the ops.
[22:45] <fourfthawaiian> how limited is the demo?
[22:45] <dummyan> fourfthawaiian, 610MB
[22:45] <Nexus10> very limited
[22:45] <fourfthawaiian> dummyan: you rule. ty!
[22:46] <F41L-Desktop> popey, what's wrong with a little automatic factoid? I guarantee you 95% of this channel will never know to use your bot. Mine responds to the common triggers I've been implementing into it watching the discussions.
[22:46] <fourfthawaiian> Nexus10: I see :/
[22:46] <dummyan> fourfthawaiian, np
[22:46] <NoHell> F41L, it's absolutelly new
[22:46] <F41L-Desktop> popey, unless you like reading and responding to the... same... questions....all....day.... with the same answers.
[22:46] <llstarks> mainerror, please do. this channel is a disorderly mess. i'd like a +m or something
[22:46] <fourfthawaiian> would the preview that was put out last month provide any more functionality?
[22:46] <F41L-Desktop> NoHell, you need root access on the device.
[22:46] <llstarks> or +r
[22:46] <F41L-Desktop> Follow the instructions on how to root your phone, probably listed somewhere on xda-developers forum.
[22:47] <jkb_> anyone tried to port it to an phone emulator?
[22:47] <fourfthawaiian> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Installation <- that one, specifically
[22:47] <maurice> It's absolutelly great! (except it doesn't work at all)
[22:47] <ManAndKnife> If I download the GNex image outside of the program and then put it in the right folder, would I be able to flash it over my sprint nexus?
[22:47] <josh__> The demo is very limited, I could join a network and sign in to twitter, but other than that, It's pretty but animations lag, Nexus 7 got super hot, and the battery drained pretty quick.
[22:47] <n4> hello i need my phone back.  stuck on trying to reinstall android followed directions and suck on wiating for device
[22:47] <nexus10manta> anyone have a manta?
[22:47] <fourfthawaiian> yikes, josh__
[22:47] <darkdragon001> has somebody achieved to get an app working on Nexus 4 with the new SDK?
[22:47] <popey> llstarks: keep it civil please.
[22:48] <tyler-baker> nexus10manta, I do
[22:48] <mathcolo> n4: are you in fastboot mode?
[22:48] <fourfthawaiian> n4: probably not the greatest idea to try this all on your everyday phone :/
[22:48] <nexus10manta> What does Extract the downloaded file and chdir into the extracted directory mean?
[22:48] <fourfthawaiian> wow. it's noobish in here. I feel bad for op's.
[22:48] <n4> mathcolo : yes in fastboot
[22:48] <fourfthawaiian> if you can't chdir, you probably shouldn't be doing this.
[22:48] <nexus10manta> too late
[22:48] <fourfthawaiian> I'm not trying to be an ass, but for real.
[22:48] <tyler-baker> lol
[22:48] <ManAndKnife> heh
[22:48] <n4> i already chdir
[22:48] <F41L-Desktop> popey, I implore you again, you (and others) like responding to the same topics that've already been covered to death every time someone new comes in to ask? That's why I smashed together a quick auto-responder bot this morning. But if you insist....
[22:49] <mathcolo> n4: in another shell, what's the output of `fastboot devices`?
[22:49] <mathcolo> Has anybody got the preview running on toro yet?!
[22:49] <fourfthawaiian> mathcolo: pm with that guy? Might be easier for everyone.
[22:49] <Courtenay> hello anyone know if multirom will get support?
[22:49] <fourfthawaiian> brb
[22:49] <mathcolo> fourfthawaiian: k
[22:49] <brillopad> Guys, is it just me or is there no contacts app?
[22:49] <n4> mathcolo no permissions fastboot
[22:49] <nexus10manta> I have ubuntu on my tablet already. It's nice, but I want 4.2.2 back. It's in bootloader mode. Terminal can't find the ./flash-all.sh
[22:50] <PiZZaMartijn> brillopad: It's intergrated in the phone app
[22:50] <popey> F41L-Desktop: I've pointed out the bot policy..
[22:50] <tyler-baker> nexus10manta, do an ls, do you see a flash-all.sh
[22:50] <brillopad> PiZZaMartijn - ah, thanks!
[22:50] <F41L-Desktop> Well I disagree with it! :D
[22:50] <brillopad> Is there a quick way to go back a page in the browser?
[22:50] <sjmulder> brillopad: slide up from bottom, back?
[22:50] <AlanBell> F41L-Desktop: ok, if you want to discuss the bot policy please join #ubuntu-ops
[22:50] <wastrel> F41L-Desktop: the channel will calm down after the excitement of the release is done
[22:50] <wastrel> it was nice & quiet before :p
[22:51] <mainerror> F41L-Desktop: Take it to the IRC council then.
[22:51] <brillopad> sjmulder - thanks. Thought I was missing a shortcut and there was a one swipe way of doing it! :)
[22:51] <tyler-baker> Anyone have a pointer to how to setup bluetooth devices?
[22:51] <sjmulder> brillopad: oh there could be, I don’t know
[22:51] <tyler-baker> I would like to demo desktop mode
[22:52] <PiZZaMartijn> tyler-baker: Bluetooth is not supported yet
[22:52] <tyler-baker> rgr
[22:52] <nexus10manta> tyler-baker, no I don't see a flash-all.sh
[22:52] <tyler-baker> nexus10manta, you need to extract the factory images, cd into that directory
[22:52] <tyler-baker> nexus10manta, then you can run ./flash-all.sh
[22:53] <mintygood> Could gnome theoretically be compiled and installed?
[22:53] <sergiusens> baggers: any luck?
[22:53] <tyler-baker> PiZZaMartijn, any idea if I plug in a physical keyboard will it transition into desktop mode?
[22:53] <mpwoodward> sorry if this has been asked already but the gmail app -- it tried to go to itunes when i hit "get the app" and now it's "stuck" on that. any way to reset it?
[22:53] <fourfthawaiian> no bluetooth. ouch. will be tough to use without a charging dock.
[22:53] <PiZZaMartijn> tyler-baker: No idea, I thought the desktop mode wasn't implemented yet
[22:53] <wip[edout36> anyone able to gimme a hand?
[22:53] <tyler-baker> PiZZaMartijn, Ok thanks!
[22:54] <speedRS> is ubuntu required on the desktop to install touch? or can you flash the image using recovery mode?
[22:54] <speedRS> the instructions seem to indicate the former.
[22:54] <wiggey1337> is there a way of installing ubuntu on maguro using windows?
[22:54] <fourfthawaiian> I've got the install running at present in a virtualbox vm
[22:54] <fourfthawaiian> seems to work OK
[22:54] <Guest33970> Why didn't Canonical include a CDMA version of the Ubuntu movile OS?
[22:55] <mainerror> Ubuntu Touch on my Nexus 7, I can't believe I just started to tear up ...
[22:55] <fourfthawaiian> I just booted off an ubuntu live cd
[22:55] <nexus10manta> tyler-baker, Thanks it worked. Directions were clear as mudd. haha
[22:55] <mathcolo> Guest33970: CDMA is a locked down piece of junk :)
[22:55] <wip[edout36> the terminal installer seams to be stuck at pushing the file to my nexus 7, the file shows up on the nexus 7 but the termial has stopped
[22:55] <fourfthawaiian> mainerror: I can't wait to have that feeling!
[22:55] <popey> Guest33970: most of the developers have GSM devices, I'm sure CDMA will come soon enough.
[22:55] <HelpeRX> is it out yet for the d2vzw?
[22:55] <mintygood> fourfthawaiian: any tutorial on getting it running in vm?
[22:55] <NeoAngle> Hi
[22:55] <HelpeRX> its been a whole 40mins
[22:55] <mainerror> fourfthawaiian: I'm not even joking!
[22:55] <fourfthawaiian> mintygood: I just used the normal instructions :)
[22:55] <NoHell> F41L, how to root a Nexus 4 ?
[22:55] <fourfthawaiian> mainerror: I don't doubt it for a moment :)
[22:55] <tyler-baker> nexus10manta, np
[22:56] <F41L-Desktop> NoHell, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=root+nexus+4
[22:56] <Guest33970> CDMA is junk. I was going to flash anyway but it said it was an unsupported device. It wouldn't let me flash.
[22:56] <mathcolo> Guest33970: You can get around that by flashing the .img files on your own
[22:56] <NoHell> F41L cheers
[22:56] <wiggey1337> how do i get the img file?
[22:57] <sergiusens> speedRS: you can flash with recovery
[22:57] <dmj_nova> Are there any mirrors at this point?
[22:57] <mathcolo> IMG files: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/quantal/mwc-demo/
[22:57] <fourfthawaiian> mirrors would be good. d/l is slow as hell. Heh.
[22:57] <wiggey1337> if someone could provide me with a flashable file via recovery, i would actually love you.... forever...
[22:57] <fourfthawaiian> NOT THAT I'M NOT GRATEFUL
[22:57] <brillopad> I LIKE TO MOVE IT MOVE IT. I LIKE TO MOVE IT MOVE IT. I LIKE TO MOVE IT MOVE IT. YOU LIKE TO? MOVE IT! I LIKE TO MOVE IT MOVE IT. I LIKE TO MOVE IT MOVE IT. I LIKE TO MOVE IT MOVE IT. YOU LIKE TO? MOVE IT! I LIKE TO MOVE IT MOVE IT. I LIKE TO MOVE IT MOVE IT. I LIKE TO MOVE IT MOVE IT. YOU LIKE TO? MOVE IT! I LIKE TO MOVE IT MOVE IT. I LIKE TO MOVE IT MOVE IT. I LIKE TO MOVE IT MOVE IT. YOU LIKE TO? MOVE IT! I LIKE TO MOVE IT
[22:57] <dmj_nova> yeah, looks like over 2 hours wait
[22:58] <fourfthawaiian> wiggey1337: one command installer not good enough? :P
[22:58] <F41L-Desktop> well, it was fun
[22:58] <mathcolo> wiggey1337: you can flash the img for your device with fastboot and then the .zip using your own recovery just fine
[22:58] <speedRS> sergiusens: thanks. out of interest, which image should I be using? there's boot, recovery, armel, phablet, system ... etc
[22:58] <Guest33970> Thanks mathcolo. I'm going to flash manually.
[22:58] <F41L-Desktop> I just wanted to run mah unofficial helpbot, but since I got slapped on the wrist I've no interest at the moment. going to go do something productive, ciao!
[22:59] <fourfthawaiian> omg, finally
[22:59] <fourfthawaiian> lol
[22:59] <fourfthawaiian> I HAVE A BOT. IT'S AWESOME. HEY. HEY GUYS. I HAVE A BOT.
[22:59] <fourfthawaiian> HEY GUYS. I HAVE A BOT.
[22:59] <fourfthawaiian> :P
[22:59] <ogra_> !ops
[22:59] <k1l_> fourfthawaiian: stop that please
[22:59] <popey> yeah, that works
[22:59] <ogra_> ah, wasnt aware popey is still here
[22:59] <fourfthawaiian> lmao
[23:00] <wiggey1337> so many files. eesh aha. so. running a maguro using the above links. what should i be doing and in what order? ive flashed a billion android roms through recoveries etc, but needless to say this is new and i dont use linux on my desktop
[23:00] <popey> fourfthawaiian: going to behave?
[23:00] <fourfthawaiian> I guess?
[23:00] <fourfthawaiian> LOL
[23:01] <fourfthawaiian> I didn't see anything about humor in the non-linked chat rules.
[23:01] <fourfthawaiian> so, sure.
[23:01] <popey> we hope people use common sense
[23:01] <fourfthawaiian> we hope ops do too
[23:01] <ogra_> well, its a very busy channel ... try to keep additional noise low
[23:01] <fourfthawaiian> :D
[23:01] <netcurli> are there any known bugs when using svg images in qml?
[23:02] <wiggey1337> so ive downloaded the boot img.. recovery img. and what im assuming is the o/s in a flashable zip
[23:02] <wiggey1337> so, i will need recovery img flashing first right?
[23:02] <fourfthawaiian> and ogra_, I will, thanks for saying so politely.
[23:02] <ogra_> :)
[23:02] <mathcolo> wiggey1337: flash the imgs via fastboot then the phablet armel one via custom recovery
[23:02] <dharber> the new software will not work on VZW  Galexy Nexus?
[23:02] <netcurli> because I get QML QQuickImage: Invalid image data
[23:02] <mathcolo> dharber: correct
[23:03] <mainerror> I just love it already. A very successful demo.
[23:03] <wiggey1337> mathcolo: i think you need to spoonfeed me with this my man, ive always done EVERYTHING through recovery. i have NO idea how to flash through fastboot
[23:03] <dharber> Ok later then
[23:03] <fourfthawaiian> mainerror: dammit. I'm busting to try this out. Stop gloating :0
[23:03] <fourfthawaiian> er
[23:03] <fourfthawaiian> ;)
[23:04] <dharber> quit
[23:04] <freddy0872> so im sure this has been asked a million times. the quantal-preinstalled-armel+grouper.zip for nexus 7 (Wi-Fi) can simply be flashed in a custom recovery is that correct?
[23:04] <mpwoodward> very basic question but how the heck do you set the clock/timezone?
[23:04] <freddy0872> i see it has meta-inf and system along with the boot image
[23:04] <muraymv> is there a way to port the image to s3
[23:04] <mainerror> I feel young again, just like back in the days when Android was brand new and I couldn't wait to start develop for it.
[23:05] <PiZZaMartijn> freddy0872: the .img files contain the device specific code
[23:05] <shoggot> just installed on an n7;  I'm at a screen with the time (incorrect), circle w/ '14 tweets recv'd', and a top status bar... and it's unresponsive. Typical? Should I wait further? Reboot?
[23:06] <mathcolo> shoggot: swipe from left to right from the left edge slowly
[23:06] <popey> shoggot: swipe in from the left
[23:06] <shoggot> Oh holy shmeckies, that's awesome.
[23:06] <fourfthawaiian> LOL
[23:06] <PiZZaMartijn> Is there any way to change the wallpaper?
[23:06] <fourfthawaiian> Damn this slow download. I'm wicked jealous.
[23:07] <freddy0872> PiZZaMartijn: i was more so concerned about the .zip files for the specific devices. these can simply be flashed in customer recovery if unlocked and a recovery is bootstrapped correct?
[23:07] <PiZZaMartijn> freddy0872: I have no idea
[23:08] <Rasp> Anyone flashed an Android yet
[23:08] <popey> "holy shmeckles" is my new go-to phrase
[23:08] <Courtenay> lol
[23:08] <freddy0872> looks to be that way. try it out. if not just recover it LMAO
[23:09] <fourfthawaiian> hm. webchat has stopped auto-scrolling.
[23:09] <rohan32> anywhere i can go for dev help? i'm an experienced dev for android and i just built up the hardware package (what im assuming is the hardware zip at least) for my device but i want to make sure im at least on the right track before i send this out to my tester :D
[23:09] <fourfthawaiian> might refresh the page. brb.
[23:09] <atheos_> any instructions for mac ? or we should have linux to install it ?
[23:10] <pierre____> atheos_: did you try with VirtualBox?
[23:10] <Corey> pierre____: USB passthrough can be jenky.
[23:10] <mathcolo> atheos_: you can use mac
[23:10] <mathcolo> I did it earlier
[23:10] <atheos_> pierre nope just wanted to check before I install ubunutu on vbox
[23:11] <fourfthawaiian> atheos_: I'm running my install from a livecd on vbox
[23:11] <fourfthawaiian> so far so good
[23:11] <atheos_> mathcolo @ cool any specific instructuons
[23:11] <hello_> any news for non-nexus devices?
[23:11] <mathcolo> Download the files you need from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/quantal/mwc-demo/
[23:11] <fourfthawaiian> although I did have to mound a larger partition and symlink it as my Download dir
[23:11] <fourfthawaiian> because the downloaded files are ~610M
[23:11] <fourfthawaiian> s/mound/mount/ above
[23:12] <Akiva-Thinkpad> what codecs does ubuntu-phone plan to have preinstalled?
[23:13] <Rasp> so excited!
[23:13] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Rasp: You and me both. Are you a developer?
[23:14] <Rasp> Akiva-Thinkpad: No, more an enthusiast ;-)
[23:14] <under> Hello
[23:14] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Rasp: Same, but I am starting to be a developer
[23:15] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Ive always wanted to contribute back :)
[23:15] <fourfthawaiian> I'm hoping to influence management where I work to move our linux support guys over to Nexus devices as desktops
[23:15] <under> Is there a a guide to install ubuntu on nexus 7 using windows?
[23:15] <fourfthawaiian> we buy everyone MBP's now :P WAY overkill.
[23:15] <drsn0w> hello
[23:15] <Akiva-Thinkpad> fourfthawaiian: Nice. Yah, its more pragmatic anyways
[23:15] <fourfthawaiian> under: I'm using a livecd booted as a virtual machine.
[23:16] <fourfthawaiian> Akiva-Thinkpad: Agreed. Especially since we regularly have to visit the DC to perform work.
[23:16] <Akiva-Thinkpad> I love doing support for ubuntu; so straightforward.
[23:16] <under> vmware or virtualbox?
[23:16] <fourfthawaiian> mobility, ftw!
[23:16] <fourfthawaiian> under: vbox
[23:16] <drsn0w> What does everyone think of ubuntu phone dev preview?
[23:16] <under> ok
[23:16] <fourfthawaiian> I downloaded the lubuntu livecd
[23:16] <fourfthawaiian> I had to mount a partition and symlink it as my Downloads directory
[23:16] <Wonka_> I'm little disappointed
[23:16] <fourfthawaiian> the downloads require ~610M
[23:16] <drsn0w> same wonka
[23:16] <fourfthawaiian> Wonka_: Oompa loompas take a snow day?
[23:16] <NoHell> F41L, I finally run Ubuntu on a Nexus 4 ! I'm pleased to be one of the first to do it in France. THANKS !
[23:16] <Wonka_> Lol
[23:17] <fourfthawaiian> :D
[23:17] <NoHell> F41L thanks... !
[23:17] <drsn0w> On nexus 7 it's okay, lots of glitches
[23:17] <Akiva-Thinkpad> NoHell: Congrats !
[23:17] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Viva les Ubuntu Phone!
[23:17] <ubufan> Not bad, having some difficulties with settings and wireless setup
[23:17] <Rasp> Akiva-Thinkpad: I'd love to be able to develop for Ubuntu... I need a new job ;-) Canonical! I wish
[23:17] <NoHell> VIVE LES TELEPHONES AVEC UBUNTU !
[23:17] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Rasp: Do you know any languages?
[23:17] <Oliver_> need help connecting nexus 4 to ubuntu
[23:17] <Wonka_> I hope there would be actual Cancel & Home button on the real version
[23:17] <k1l_> well, its a demo. so not a full android beater to be expected, imho
[23:17] <AlanBell> well done NoHell \o/
[23:18] <k1l_> Wonka_: no, that is the new idea behind that
[23:18] <GuidoPallemans> devs, is there any way to save settings yet?
[23:18] <chaosmaster> hi, i'm having trouble installing ubuntu touch on my nexus 7 : I'm running ubuntu on virtualbox, and it can't seem to find my nexus7 which is plugged in by usb
[23:18] <chaosmaster> can anyone help ? :)
[23:18] <typicalbender> Is there a public road map for Ubuntu-phone?
[23:18] <drsn0w> Will there be nightly builds?
[23:18] <Wonka_> It's just too hard to use.
[23:18] <GuidoPallemans> chaosmaster: do you have the usb plgin?
[23:18] <Akiva-Thinkpad> typicalbender: yes, openstreetmaps.org
[23:18] <drsn0w> because I want to use this on my nexus 7
[23:18] <GuidoPallemans> devs, is there any way to save settings yet?
[23:18] <Wonka_> Just like Windows 8.. Don't know where things are.
[23:18] <AlanBell> hi chaosmaster, have you connected the usb port to the VM?
[23:18] <fourfthawaiian> chaosmaster: have you set the USB device to be used by vbox exclusively?
[23:18] <fourfthawaiian> yeah, what he said :)
[23:18] <typicalbender> Akiva-Thunkpad: thanks
[23:19] <shoggot> possible to add users? possible to install the 'available for download' apps? (tapping 'em does nothing). Think I've sussed out killing running apps, and app switching, at least.
[23:19] <k1l_> Wonka_: well, its not "just another android"
[23:19] <chaosmaster> ehm, not sure : when I enter the lsusb command, it sees my tablet listed as "VirtualBox USB Tablet"
[23:19] <drsn0w> also when the final is released, will it still be flashable to the nexus 7?
[23:19] <shoggot> (Additional: I have a set of pre-set contacts. Wipeable?)
[23:19] <Wonka_> Yeah, I like that concept, but it's little hard to use.
[23:19] <drsn0w> how do you quit running apps
[23:19] <typicalbender> lol @Akiva-Thinkpad i meant technical roadmap not like a mapping applicaiton
[23:19] <typicalbender> hahah
[23:19] <Rasp> Akiva-Thinkpad: Just C sharp, (Not alot) looking for the hash on my mac keyboard as have ubuntu installled ;-)
[23:19] <ManAndKnife> blast it all
[23:20] <k1l_> Wonka_: well, it needs alot of bugfixing and testing. that is for sure
[23:20] <chaosmaster> but when I enter "adb devices", no devices are found.
[23:20] <shoggot> drsn0w: go to the 'home' screen, where it shows 'running apps', click the one you want to kill
[23:20] <Wonka_> I like the overall design. Just the details are too hard to find.
[23:20] <drsn0w> ohhhh
[23:20] <drsn0w> thanks! :D
[23:20] <shoggot> To get back to a running app otherwise, just swipe from the righyt
[23:20] <atheos_> @mathcolo  how did you install using mac ?
[23:20] <meetingology> atheos_: Error: "mathcolo" is not a valid command.
[23:20] <ManAndKnife> going to try and flash the image for the maguro on my toroplus
[23:20] <atheos_> I downloaded the image already
[23:20] <GuidoPallemans> devs,  is there any way to save settings in a qml app?
[23:20] <Rasp> mines just started installing - Hurry Hurry ;-)
[23:20] <mathcolo> atheos_: Flash the .img files for your device with fastboot and then the .zip with custom recovery
[23:20] <Wonka_> Also, it's really hard to pull up the left-side menu if you have a phone case on...
[23:21] <drsn0w> shoggot: no it doesnt
[23:21] <ManAndKnife> let's see if this works... Can't use the lovely phablet-flash tool :(
[23:21] <AlanBell> typicalbender: all the information is published on the wiki that was released today, and in the press pack that was released on Tuesday - there is more in the press pack than you might expect
[23:21] <Lesicnik1> Hello, I have a question. How will Ubuntu be updated (Atleast for the developer previews)? Will it be nightly, or on a set time span? Thanks!
[23:21] <typicalbender> thanks AlanBell
[23:21] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Rasp: Neat! I started with python, but now I am confident enough to branch out everywhere.
[23:21] <drsn0w> I also would like to know Lesicnik1 's question
[23:21] <popey> Lesicnik1: this is a preview, it's not got a roadmap of updates planned out.
[23:21] <shoggot> drsn0w: hrm... maybe it died on its own for me? I had the phone app and gmail running, saw them both there, clicked the phone app in 'running apps', and it stopped being avbailable from the right-swipe
[23:22] <Akiva-Thinkpad> I'm building a game for tablet, phone, and desktop for ubuntu,
[23:22] <Akiva-Thinkpad> all online :)
[23:22] <Lesicnik1> Alright, thanks
[23:22] <atheos_> mathcolo : so custom recovery can be usual TWRP right ?
[23:22] <drsn0w> shoggot: when i click, it opens the app lol
[23:22] <Wonka_> So, how do you kill running apps?
[23:22] <shoggot> Okay, wait, going to try this again, moment
[23:22] <Yugge> Akiva-Thinkpad: Neet, what kinda game?
[23:22] <Wonka_> If I click them, it just takes me to the app
[23:22] <mathcolo> atheos_: yup :) and actually skip flashing the recovery img in fastboot. just do "system" and "boot"
[23:22] <GuidoPallemans> is there any way to save data in a qml app?
[23:23] <atheos_> mathcolo : cool
[23:23] <drsn0w> so this preview won't be updated??
[23:23] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Yugge: Tactical realtime hybrid, like Front mission.
[23:23] <e8hffff> Apart of ssh what are other installing?
[23:23] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Yugge: Its content is similar to world of tanks though
[23:23] <typicalbender> Wonka: if you swipe up from the bottom onto the little magifying glass you should pop up a management menu that will let you close an app
[23:23] <SpyMasterMatt> is there a way to switch to tablet mode? i have flashed this to my nexus 7 and it seems to be running a mobile version (no sidestage etc)
[23:23] <chaosmaster> AlanBell: the usb should be working with the VM, as when I enter "lsusb" in my terminal, it seems to find the nexus 7 listed as "VirtualBox USB Tablet"
[23:23] <mathcolo> atheos_: I _think_ that'll work. If not, wipe your sdcard with TWRP, put the .zip onto your /sdcard as autodeploy.zip, then flash all the .imgs and run fastboot boot <recoveryfile>
[23:23] <Yugge> Akiva-Thinkpad: Cool! I love front mission :D
[23:23] <Akiva-Thinkpad> although, I think I can actually make a fascinating storyline and franchise out of it
[23:23] <drsn0w> I have same problem SpyMasterMatt
[23:23] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Yugge: Wow, nice to meet a fan!
[23:24] <shoggot> drsn0w: typicalblender is right
[23:24] <AlanBell> chaosmaster: that doesn't sound right to me, but I haven't got one to test
[23:24] <Lesicnik1> how about when it releases and carriers (and OEMs) start customizing it. Is the core OS independent from that and is it able to be updated independently, or will we have to wait for the OEM/Carrier (ala Android)
[23:24] <drsn0w> ohh thanks!
[23:24] <Rasp> Akiva-Thinkpad: Know any good book I could start with - Would love to be able to code in python - Phone just finished
[23:24] <AlanBell> chaosmaster: actually maybe I can test that, hang on a few minutes  . . .
[23:24] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Rasp: I started by doing the python challenge, allot of fun
[23:24] <ManAndKnife> what is the preinstalled.zip for?
[23:24] <drsn0w> i still want to know if i'll be able to get updates for this...
[23:24] <holdmyheadwhilei> Anyone here using this on their N7?
[23:24] <bv> bricked
[23:25] <drsn0w> holdmyheadwhilei: Me
[23:25] <chaosmaster> AlanBell: ah I have an improvement : now I can see the device when I do "adb devices", but it's listed as offline
[23:25] <shoggot> holdmyheadwhilei: yes
[23:25] <ManAndKnife> Stupid question, could that be used and just flashed in TWRP
[23:25] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Rasp: however, given that it is more of a game, I got actual experience programming a plugin for a bot I use on irc
[23:25] <holdmyheadwhilei> How do I get into settings?
[23:25] <Wonka_> It'd be cool to actually edit this source code and customize Ubuntu.
[23:25] <bv> brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrricked
[23:25] <drsn0w> holdmyheadwhilei: no idea lol
[23:25] <shoggot> holdmyheadwhilei: no idea yet =)
[23:25] <drsn0w> holdmyheadwhilei: was wondering same
[23:25] <holdmyheadwhilei> Any way to get to terminal ?
[23:25] <holdmyheadwhilei> Or is it there yet
[23:25] <GuidoPallemans> devs, is there any way to save data in a qml app?
[23:25] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Yugge: They had front mission online, however they totally botched how it should have been made
[23:25] <drsn0w> holdmyheadwhilei: ssh or adb bridge
[23:25] <drsn0w> holdmyheadwhilei: adb shell*
[23:26] <GuidoPallemans> holdmyheadwhilei: nope, they're making a terminal app
[23:26] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Yugge: And they botched the franchise in general.
[23:26] <holdmyheadwhilei> Can I install any of the apps at the bottom or is that just for show?
[23:26] <drsn0w> holdmyheadwhilei: show
[23:26] <netcurli> GuidoPallemans, the notepad app uses localstorage afaik
[23:26] <drsn0w> SETTINGS
[23:26] <shoggot> GuidoPallemans: any idea how it'll be disseminated?
[23:26] <drsn0w> :D
[23:26] <drsn0w> oh wait no
[23:26] <drsn0w> nvm
[23:26] <drsn0w> D:
[23:26] <GuidoPallemans> netcurli: thanks
[23:27] <Rasp> Akiva-Thinkpad: Must have a look at that - thanks
[23:27] <GuidoPallemans> shoggot: let me link you
[23:27] <tannerln7> how long should it take to flash files to the sd car. it seems like it is stuck..
[23:27] <holdmyheadwhilei> takes a good while
[23:27] <Wonka_> Anybody know if putting Android with Ubuntu possible ?
[23:27] <tannerln7> ok thanks
[23:27] <holdmyheadwhilei> I was using vmware
[23:27] <tannerln7> as am i
[23:27] <drsn0w> Wonka_ multirom?
[23:27] <drsn0w> Wonka_: multirom?
[23:27] <shoggot> GuidoPallemans: appreciated
[23:27] <drsn0w> brb
[23:27] <GuidoPallemans> shoggot: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-coreapps
[23:28] <holdmyheadwhilei> Pretty cool Idea anyway
[23:28] <GuidoPallemans> shoggot: there's a better page though
[23:28] <Wonka_> drsn0w: Are you asking me or telling me?
[23:28] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Rasp: The python challenge though I notice, is very enabling if you go through the levels. It will teach you basically everything you'd ever want to do on it.  Basically its a puzzle that you need to solve using python commands. A ton of fun
[23:28] <Guest78938> So.... will I be able to connect to sprint's network on my sprint galaxy nexus?
[23:28] <Lesicnik1> Guess I'll just repeat my question, it appears to have been overlooked.
[23:28] <Lesicnik1> how about when it releases and carriers (and OEMs) start customizing it. Is the core OS independent from that and is it able to be updated independently, or will we have to wait for the OEM/Carrier (ala Android)
[23:28] <AlanBell> chaosmaster: bother, I don't have a connection cable here. I think when you do lsusb in the guest if things are right it should just show up as a nexus tablet, not a virtualbox tablet
[23:28] <rictec> i dont know if anyone as asked this already but is the source anywhere to port to a non google device?
[23:28] <GuidoPallemans> shoggot: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps
[23:29] <chaosmaster> AlanBell: ah I have an improvement : now I can see the device when I do "adb devices", but it's listed as offline
[23:29] <chaosmaster> AlanBell: also, now lsusb lists a "Google Inc" connected
[23:29] <AlanBell> that sounds better
[23:29] <shoggot> GuidoPallemans: mucho danke.
[23:30] <AlanBell> it might not work, USB passthrough is a bit flakey on high bandwidth devices
[23:30] <RobbyF> chaosmaster, with that offline mode, you need to accept the cert on the android phone when its plugged in.
[23:30] <GuidoPallemans> shoggot: keine rien
[23:30] <mikel> after finishing the flashing  with phablet-flash i just got a blackscreen after reboot. (grouper) Any advice?
[23:30] <Wonka_> chaomaster: ARe you having problems ?
[23:30] <tannerln7> can you give me a timeframe estimate on how long it takes to push the files to the sd
[23:30] <typicalbender> mikel: did you bootstrap with -b first?
[23:30] <mikel> yes
[23:31] <shoggot> Current state of 13.04 on n7 is less useful currently, or is anyone using it as a daily driver? If the latter, how are keyboards handled? Onboard or something similar?
[23:31] <Wonka_> tanner1n7: pushing doesn't take long at all.
[23:31] <tannerln7> it seems to be taking a long time for me
[23:31] <chaosmaster> RobbyF: AlanBell : that seems to work, i didnt see the popup on my tablet :( Thanks guys !
[23:31] <shoggot> 5 min or so, tanner
[23:31] <mikel> typicalbender: yes
[23:31] <Wonka_> tanner1n7: Downloading or Pushing?
[23:32] <tannerln7> hm, ill wait a little bit longer and then if it still hasnt continued then i will restart
[23:32] <AlanBell> chaosmaster: yay cool, and now we know it is workable with virtualbox usb passthrough
[23:32] <typicalbender> mikel: not sure, figured id start with the obvious but i didnt see a blackscreen when I flashed it to my galaxy nexus. There was a blackscreen during boot but it went away relatively quickly (8 seconds or so)
[23:32] <drsn0w> Is 13.04 or Touch better for nexus 8?
[23:32] <drsn0w> 7*
[23:32] <AlanBell> chaosmaster: what is your host operating system?
[23:32] <chaosmaster> AlanBell: Windows 7
[23:33] <mathcolo> drsn0w: 13.04 actually functions…touch is really just a preview
[23:33] <chaosmaster> AlanBell: running ubuntu 12.10 on VM
[23:33] <drsn0w> mathcolo: does 13.04 function better than 12.10 did on n7?
[23:33] <shoggot> mathcolo: how is the keyboard handled under 13.04?
[23:33] <browserLOL> Anyone have any luck flashing to a Nexus S?
[23:33] <Wonka_> Any idea how to put Ubuntu and Android on Nexus 4?
[23:34] <mathcolo> drsn0w: well 12.10 is the touch preview, which again is just the touch preview. the raring 13.04 image is more of the desktop OS. Actually….it _is_ the desktop OS
[23:34] <mathcolo> It displays an on screen keyboard
[23:34] <Wonka_> browserLOL: I don't think it's possible.
[23:34] <k1l_> Wonka_: no multirom so far
[23:34] <mikel> typicalbender: is boots the bootloader of google and then is turns black, the CWM is still installed.
[23:34] <Wonka_> k11_: Thanks
[23:34] <shoggot> ooers, then. I'll switch over to 13.04 now that I've previewed touch
[23:34] <browserLOL> Just curious, I had originally read someone that they did most of their initial testing on the Nexus S.
[23:34] <Hebbes> trying to install on N7
[23:34] <drsn0w> mathcolo: I know. I flashed the 12.10 desktop image back when 13.04 wasn't released.
[23:34] <tannerln7> do you think vmware usb passthrough could cause slower usb transfer rates?
[23:34] <Wonka_> browserLOL: I'm not an expert, just take it as an opinion.
[23:35] <mathcolo> drsn0w: Oh okay. Well so the quantal touch preview is totally different I guess. Do what you want :)
[23:35] <Hebbes> keep getting a fail during phablet-flash -b
[23:35] <browserLOL> Too right. TY for the answer though.
[23:35] <PiZZaMartijn> browserLOL: I tought it was developed on the galaxy nexus
[23:35] <Hebbes> quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip: FAILED md5sum: WARNING: 1 computed checksum did NOT match Error while downloading, ensure connection
[23:35] <Wonka_> Hebbes: What does it say?
[23:35] <drsn0w> mathcolo: does 13.04 run WELL on n7? is it usable?
[23:35] <shoggot> Ta, thanks for making this, those who made it, and thanks for the help / etc, mathcolo / Guido / drsn0w
[23:35] <Hebbes> quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip: FAILED md5sum: WARNING: 1 computed checksum did NOT match Error while downloading, ensure connection
[23:36] <typicalbender> mikel: i'm sorry im really not sure. Today is the first time i started dicking around with my phone to install ubuntu preview but had no problems. Someone else may be able to answer your question more intelligently
[23:36] <mathcolo> drsn0w: No idea
[23:36] <drsn0w> oh
[23:36] <drsn0w> Anyone know how well raring runs on n7?
[23:36] <Hebbes> Wonka_quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip: FAILED md5sum: WARNING: 1 computed checksum did NOT match Error while downloading, ensure connection
[23:36] <nocoast> should we run
[23:36] <nocoast> it as root?
[23:36] <nocoast> because
[23:36] <nocoast> sudo
[23:36] <nocoast> keeps bitching at me
[23:36] <nocoast> about adb
[23:36] <nocoast> not being a path
[23:36] <typicalbender> Hebbes: delete the .md5sum file and then rerun the comment
[23:36] <nocoast> then
[23:36] <mikel> yes
[23:36] <zandgreen__> link to source?
[23:36] <nocoast> yeah
[23:36] <typicalbender> that worked for me
[23:36] <nocoast> im running it as root now
[23:36] <browserLOL> PiZZaMartijn: You could be right, I just though I had heard that.
[23:36] <k1l_> nocoast: dont missuse enter
[23:36] <typicalbender> command*
[23:37] <nocoast> kil sorry bad derp
[23:37] <rictec> i dont know if anyone as asked this already but is the  source anywhere to port to a non google device?
[23:37] <Hebbes> typicalbender where do I find that file
[23:37] <AlanBell> !root | nocoast
[23:37] <tannerln7> could vmware usbpassthrough cause slower usb transfer rates??
[23:37] <PiZZaMartijn> rictec: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
[23:37] <AlanBell> tannerln7: sure it could
[23:37] <nocoast> lol i know my own root password because im on debian
[23:37] <nocoast> .
[23:37] <typicalbender> Hebbes: ~/Downloads/phablet-flash/95
[23:37] <typicalbender> shoudl be
[23:37] <drsn0w> I"m debating wether  to go back to android or stay on Touch Preview...if updates for touch preview will be released i will stick with it...
[23:37] <k1l_> nocoast: install adb from the repos if you are on 12.10
[23:37] <nocoast> im on sid
[23:38] <nocoast> Lol
[23:38] <Hebbes> thank you typicalbender
[23:38] <k1l_> nocoast: ok, than you need to solve that on your own :)
[23:38] <typicalbender> delete the file that looks like: quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip.md5
[23:38] <drsn0w> nocoast: dont think debian has ppas
[23:38] <nocoast> not true
[23:38] <Wonka_> Is messaging possible on preview ?
[23:38] <nocoast> ill show you the guide we made
[23:38] <drsn0w> nocoast: sry lol
[23:38] <typicalbender> .md5sum*
[23:38] <atheos_> mathcolo : flashed the img it seems to boot now for some weird reason it shows cynogenmod boot screen :P
[23:38] <nocoast> DEBIAN GUIDE
[23:38] <nocoast> http://pastebin.com/gJcvnFij
[23:38] <drsn0w> so dya think i should sta?
[23:38] <tannerln7> so i think i may be stuck at pushing the file to the phones sd, any ideas of what could cause this and how to fix it
[23:39] <typicalbender> drsn0w: im heading back to android
[23:39] <drsn0w> stay on touch preview *
[23:39] <Hebbes> typicalbender sadly that did not work
[23:39] <mathcolo> atheos_: You didn't flash all the imgs correctly then :p You need to flash system and boot, then flash the .zip via custom recovery
[23:39] <chaosmaster> tannerln7: i'm using vmware, and the transfer rate isn't stable and ranges from 500K/s and 2500K/s
[23:39] <typicalbender> the preview was awesome and i like where its going but i can't justify using it as my main device :)
[23:39] <rictec> PiZZaMartijn: thank you
[23:39] <drsn0w> typicalbender: yeah iu might, but my custom rom zip file thing was erased when i flashed ubuntu, and my internet is shit so i can't reldownload it in less than an hour
[23:39] <tannerln7> chaosmaster: ok yeah i figured it might be something like that
[23:39] <Hebbes> going to try redownloading phablet-flash
[23:39] <drsn0w> typicalbender: and i hate stock lol
[23:40] <typicalbender> drsn0w: yeah im abroad in germany right now and im getting 100 KB/s, totally blows
[23:40] <atheos_> mathcolo: aaaw I missed an img file will redo it :P
[23:40] <typicalbender> on top of that the hotel limits the interent to 60 min sessions
[23:40] <Wonka_> Is messaging possible on preview?
[23:40] <drsn0w> typicalbender: woah okay i'm not complaining anymore lol i got 350
[23:40] <Iktwo> does anyone knows what keyboard is used in ubuntu phone?
[23:40] <drsn0w> no Wonka_
[23:40] <mathcolo> atheos_: k :p Also remember you cannot boot your device fully until you flash that zip in custom recovery as well
[23:40] <Wonka_> How about calling or network?
[23:40] <Yugge> Wonka_: Sms? yeah, it works
[23:40] <typicalbender> Hebbes: not sure. When i got that error deleting the md5sum file and then re-running the command seemd to resolve the issue
[23:40] <Yugge> Calling works as well
[23:41] <drsn0w> Wonka_: yeek sorry, i didnt realize ur on n4
[23:41] <atheos_> mathcolo: got it :) will check it and report back
[23:41] <DavidJFulde> For anyone wondering how to navigate the UI, and are a little losT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhueXPzT3pU
[23:41] <Wonka_> Does Wi-Fi work for anybody?
[23:41] <drsn0w> typicalbender: i'm going back to PA3 lol,
[23:41] <Yugge> I can't seem to recieve a call though
[23:41] <Yugge> Wonka_: Yep, wi-fi works.
[23:41] <tannerln7> ok so the push finaly finished but now my phone doesnt seem to be detected in fastboot mode
[23:41] <Wonka_> Messaging doesn't work for me.
[23:42] <Wonka_> Mine has to have some errors.. Nothing works for me..
[23:42] <mpwoodward> wi-fi works for me, as do calls and sms
[23:42] <mpwoodward> just can't reset the clock :-)
[23:42] <RiXtEr> Anyone flash this to a toro yet ?
[23:42] <typicalbender> drsn0w: PA3 = paranoid android 3?
[23:42] <AlanBell> Iktwo: I think it is maliit
[23:42] <nocoast> again
[23:42] <redjax> I'm getting "root access is disabled by system setting - enable in settings -> development options" when trying to flash UbuntuOS, any help?
[23:42] <nocoast> DEBIAN GUIDE http://pastebin.com/gJcvnFij
[23:42] <tannerln7> ok so the push finaly finished but now my phone doesnt seem to be detected in fastboot mode
[23:42] <nocoast> redjax,
[23:42] <drsn0w> typicalbender: yes. My favorite rom...unless there's a 4.2.1 update for N7ROMFUSION
[23:42] <nocoast> you need to hit the build number
[23:42] <nocoast> 7x
[23:43] <nocoast> if you arent aware of this
[23:43] <nocoast> then you may want to consider
[23:43] <Iktwo> AlanBell I think so too, but I'm not sure
[23:43] <nocoast> not flashing
[23:43] <typicalbender> drsn0w: i've only run stock on my galaxy nexus, ill have to check out that rom
[23:43] <Lesicnik1> I have a question about how carrier and OEM customization affect updates. Is the core OS independent from that and is it able to be updated independently, or will we have to wait for the OEM/Carrier (ala Android)/
[23:43] <AlanBell> !enter | nocoast
[23:43] <nocoast> apologies AlanBell
[23:43] <drsn0w> typicalbender: I do not like stock lol
[23:43] <Ziion> Hi guys, ordered a Gnex with a bad ESN today to use as my daily wi-fi phone/MP3 player. I was wondering do you feel like the alpha-Ubuntu released today would work well for someone who only needs Google Voice + A music player? Or should I stick with JellyBean/
[23:44] <drsn0w> typicalbender: Fusion rom for nexus 7: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2077396
[23:44] <nocoast> pushing my phatblet autdeploy.zip /sdcard/
[23:44] <Wonka_> Do you guys also have all these strangers as your favourite people ?
[23:44] <under_> I'm installing on nexus7 :D
[23:44] <AlanBell> Ziion: feel free to install and have a play and poke about, but this isn't for daily use
[23:44] <Yugge> Wonka_: Read the release page
[23:44] <Ziion> Thank you Alan sir, I will wait for a future release
[23:44] <PeterPanen> Hai guys. Im trying to restore stock android to my Galaxy Nexus in ubuntu desktop. My phone is in the Bootloader ready to be flashed, but "adb devices" shows no device? Any help is apreciated! :-)
[23:45] <typicalbender> drsn0w: thanks
[23:45] <drsn0w> PeterPanen: use fastboot, not abd
[23:45] <Lesicnik1> Not adb devices, you have to use fastboot in the bootloader
[23:45] <Lesicnik1> try fastboot devices
[23:45] <drsn0w> typicalbender: no problem
[23:45] <AlanBell> Wonka_: the people are the fictional design personas they use for demos, I expect they will have phone numbers with 555 in them (which is an invalid phone number and every number you see on TV will have 555 in it)
[23:45] <nocoast> im about to boot into nexus10 ubuntu! :D
[23:45] <mattwj2002> hey guys
[23:45] <drsn0w> hey can i flash directly to a custom rom without going back to stock?
[23:46] <PeterPanen> ahh alright, i was wrong. I can see on the screen it says "FASTBOOT MODE" so im probably in fastboot
[23:46]  * mattwj2002 flashes 
[23:46] <Wonka_> I can't even press keypad for calling now.
[23:46] <mikel> drsn0w: i think CMW will not be deleted
[23:46] <bobsmith> any toro
[23:46] <nocoast> yes it will
[23:46] <nocoast> recovery
[23:46] <drsn0w> mikel: i mean flashing with fastboot
[23:46] <nocoast> gets overwritten
[23:46] <nocoast> everything gets overwritten
[23:46] <mattwj2002> is the ubuntu phone install any good?
[23:46] <mattwj2002> :)
[23:47]  * nocoast boots into nex10 build
[23:47] <mikel> drsn0w: i restored my nadroid backup
[23:47] <drsn0w> nocoast & mikel: I want to flash to FUSION ROM directly from fastboot, is that possible, and mikel i didnt nandroid oops
[23:47] <typicalbender> mattj2002: its pretty awesome but its just a preview so I wouldnt recommend as an install for everyday use just yet
[23:47] <typicalbender> at least that was my experience thusfar
[23:47] <Yugge> Wonka_: did you disable pin code?
[23:47] <Wonka_> How many of you want to develop after seeing the preview ?
[23:47] <mattwj2002> well I am going to try it out typicalbender
[23:47] <typicalbender> Wonka_: me
[23:47] <mattwj2002> :)
[23:47] <Yugge> Wonka_: Me
[23:47] <typicalbender> definitely give it a try
[23:47] <nocoast> why do i have lola changs' tweets
[23:47] <nocoast> who is lola chang?
[23:47] <drsn0w> Wonka_: me
[23:48] <drsn0w> nocoast: my thoughts exactly
[23:48] <mattwj2002> is she hot?
[23:48] <rsmiff> my tablet never reboots after i run the phablet command
[23:48] <Wonka_> Yugge: Where do I do that?
[23:48] <AlanBell> nocoast: she doesn't exist, it is fictional demo data
[23:48] <typicalbender> one thing that kind of sucked was all the junk data thats in the preview
[23:48] <mattwj2002> oh :(
[23:48] <typicalbender> i understand the reason but it make its feel more like a preview
[23:48] <typicalbender> and not a working prototype
[23:48] <drsn0w> I'm impatient, flashing to stock
[23:48] <Wonka_> Keypad works again..
[23:48] <AlanBell> typicalbender: well it is :)
[23:48] <PeterPanen> Alright, so im in Fastboot Mode ready to flash back to stock android. "adb devices" shows no devices. Any help is apreciated :-) i remember in Android i had to set USB-debugging on, but since im on Ubuntu Phone, this option is not present?
[23:48] <drsn0w> adb reboot bootloader
[23:48] <typicalbender> AlanBell: Very true :)
[23:48] <RobbyF> how do i kill a running app ? lol
[23:48] <Yugge> nocoast: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes#Sample_content
[23:48] <drsn0w> haha wrong window sorry
[23:48] <typicalbender> im just impatient :P
[23:48] <skaT73> so any chance that we are going to have Ubuntu being able to be flashed from a windows machine?
[23:49] <AlanBell> typicalbender: this build is specifically to demo at mobile world congress, it isn't an early version of a release, it is a functional concept demo
[23:49] <Lesicnik1> PeterPanen: Don't use adb in the bootloader, you need to use fastboot
[23:49] <typicalbender> AlanBell: and a prety good demo at that. I love the idea I just want it to be a reality :)
[23:49] <nocoast> how do i make
[23:49] <nocoast> my own user
[23:49] <nocoast> thats not a guest?
[23:50] <RiXtEr> nocoast, useradd ?
[23:50] <typicalbender> i just need to get another galaxy nexus so i can have a dev one and main device
[23:50] <PeterPanen> Lesicnik1: So by using the ./flash-all.sh i should be able to flash even though adb devices shows none?
[23:50] <nocoast> RiXtEr,
[23:50] <nocoast> i know you
[23:50] <mattwj2002> :P typicalbender
[23:50] <RiXtEr> :)
[23:50] <mattwj2002> what apps are available?
[23:50] <RiXtEr> nocoast, talked with you in liquids chan before
[23:51] <Lesicnik1> PeterPanen: Yes, the flash-all.sh uses fastboot, which is the interface used in the bootloader, adb is used once the system is booted/in the recovery
[23:51] <nocoast> RiXtEr, i am carbon now
[23:51] <nocoast> ;x
[23:51] <PeterPanen> Lesicnik1: Thanks alot. Although when i run the flash, it just says Waiting for device :(
[23:51] <typicalbender> drsn0w: downloading paranoid :D
[23:51] <AlanBell> !lola
[23:51] <typicalbender> 40 min for a 200 MB download  -_-
[23:52] <RiXtEr> nocoast, pm me a link and I will likely flash to it when I get done playing... I am fairly doubtful I will get much use out of this since I have a toro :(
[23:52] <mattwj2002> I wanted to call lola too :(
[23:52] <typicalbender> the events and photos looked really nice
[23:52] <Lesicnik1> PeterPanen: Tell me, do you see "Fastboot mode" anywhere on your screen?
[23:52] <drsn0w> typicalbender: nice! I'm going with fusion this time
[23:52] <nocoast> RiXtEr,
[23:52] <nocoast> we have one
[23:52] <nocoast> for every device
[23:52] <PeterPanen> Lesicnik1: Yes its a big green android, and it says "Fastbood Mode" and alot of other stuff
[23:52] <nocoast> we just added pie
[23:52] <RiXtEr> nocoast, like I said, pm me a link
[23:53] <Wonka_> Any idea why the Wi-Fi doesn't work?
[23:53] <Lesicnik1> PeterPanen: Hmm that's odd, try doing "fastboot devices" and tell me if you get a response
[23:53] <typicalbender> Wonka_: Wifi worked fine for me
[23:54] <AlanBell> Wonka_: it works for basic stuff https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes#Networking
[23:54] <rymate1234> so
[23:54] <rymate1234> how is screenshot OS?
[23:54] <PeterPanen> Lesicnik1: Alright, sudo fastboot devices shows 1 device :) so i guess it can see my phone
[23:54] <jounih> rymate1234: you can screenshot with adb
[23:55] <rymate1234> no
[23:55] <rymate1234> I heard ubuntu os for phone has lots of screenshots instead of apps
[23:55] <rymate1234> how are they?
[23:55] <k1l_> rymate1234: troll somewhere else :/
[23:55] <Wonka_> AlanBell: I looked into it. It's supposed to work, but it doesn't...
[23:55] <jounih> ahh yeah, of apps that haven't been fully developed yet
[23:55] <Lesicnik1> PeterPanen: Odd how it doesn't seem to want to flash. Try again or try restarting the phone in fastboot mode.
[23:55] <jounih> its a developer preview
[23:56] <belak> I've been playing with the ubuntu preview on my N7 and it appears to all be seeded with sample data... am I missing something?
[23:56] <rymate1234> can't i make jokes? -.-
[23:56] <AlanBell> rymate1234: some core apps are working, some are not written yet
[23:56] <typicalbender> belak: no
[23:56] <zoktar> can you download the images independantly ?, would like to try and see if i can install it via multirom.
[23:56] <fourfthawaiian> so, I'm stuck at "waiting for device"
[23:56] <rymate1234> belak, no
[23:56] <PeterPanen> Lesicnik1: Yea im gonna try some different stuff, thanks for your time
[23:56] <jounih> rymate1234 you're welcome to help build them
[23:56] <rymate1234> its a dev preview
[23:56] <fourfthawaiian> this is post-download
[23:56] <Rasp> Closing an open app? Anyone know how
[23:56] <AlanBell> !lola | belak
[23:56] <fourfthawaiian> "the device needs to be unlocked for the following to work"
[23:56] <typicalbender> belak: its a dev preview meant for demo purposes not really to be an everyday working device
[23:56] <fourfthawaiian> then: "waiting for device"
[23:56] <nexus7user> Hello, I was previously running the Ubuntu for Nexus 7 image from last month and now I'm trying to upgrade to the new UI. How can I do that with out restoring android?
[23:56] <drsn0w> is it imperitive to flash userdata.img?
[23:56] <eduardosanzb> Hello, i just flash the image, on a nexus 7
[23:56] <Lesicnik1> PeterPanen: No problem :)
[23:56] <fourfthawaiian> adb devices sees the device
[23:56] <mateor> My install has hung in recovery..15 mins. Any advice?
[23:56] <rymate1234> jounih, can I make apps in python
[23:56] <fourfthawaiian> but, still "waiting"
[23:56] <fourfthawaiian> normal?
[23:56] <mattwj2002> uh
[23:56] <mattwj2002> help?
[23:57] <rymate1234> ?
[23:57] <rsmiff> does this need to be flashed over a stock rom?
[23:57] <belak> Also, I can't connect to the network... can the preview do WPA enterprise?
[23:57] <mattwj2002> I have a weird issue
[23:57] <rsmiff> my tablet never reboots
[23:57] <holdmyheadwhilei> Thanks for the link Ubot5
[23:57] <eduardosanzb> also my nexus 7 never reboots
[23:57] <mattwj2002> I just got to something that looks like a screenshot
[23:57] <mattwj2002> it doesn't do anything
[23:57] <jounih> rymate1234: QML for now but i think there are/will be python bindings
[23:57] <drsn0w> bye
[23:57] <AlanBell> belak: if you poke around it can but the UI can't https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes#Networking
[23:58] <belak> Got it. Thanks for all the quick responses!
[23:58] <NoHell_> holdmyheadwhilei wait for it ^
[23:58] <AlanBell> !bot | holdmyheadwhilei
[23:58] <Rasp> Anyone know how to close running apps?
[23:58] <rsmiff> mattwj2002: is your tablet stock?
[23:58] <Laputa> :q
[23:58] <rymate1234> jounih, QML isn't a programming language afaik
[23:58] <nocoast> uh
[23:58] <Rasp> Its awesome by the way ;-)
[23:58] <nocoast> is there bash?
[23:58] <eduardosanzb> yes, was nexus 7 stock
[23:58] <eduardosanzb> 4.2
[23:58] <rymate1234> QML is what defines the application UI
[23:58] <mattwj2002> my phone doesn't do anything!
[23:58] <jounih> well QML and javascript
[23:58] <dink_> Anyone working on a port for Gnex toro?
[23:58] <AlanBell> rymate1234: QML is a widget toolkit and framework, javascript is the normal language for working with it
[23:58] <nexus7user> Is there any upgrade path available for Ubuntu for Nexus 7 to the latest Ubuntu Phablet UI
[23:58] <mattwj2002> oh I got it
[23:58] <mattwj2002> :)
[23:58] <Wonka_> Nice chat guys, See ya
[23:58] <AlanBell> nexus7user: great question, I have no idea
[23:59] <nocoast> is there bash?
[23:59] <Yugge> nocoast: yes
[23:59] <eduardosanzb> someone has installed on a nexus 7?
[23:59] <under_> I'm installing
[23:59] <usererror> so, who has done a port to Toro yet?
[23:59] <AlanBell> nexus7user: going back to android would put you in the right place for the instructions, but there is probably a way to go direct
[23:59] <RiXtEr> nocoast, you haven't extracted the zip/tar.gz's yet ? : )
[23:59] <GuidoPallemans> can anybody try my reddit app? it's at https://github.com/brambram/UbuntuPhoneRedditApp
[23:59] <Max> Hello !
[23:59] <rymate1234> ....why is every os using javascript, a WEB SCRIPTING LANGUAGE, as a way to make apps on operating systems
[23:59] <Yugge> nocoast: adb root ; adb shell; ubuntu_chroot shell; su - phablet
[23:59] <mateor> I did, Install is stuck in recovery on N7. I guess i will reflash
[23:59] <usererror> also eduardosanzb I am doing the nexus 7 install as we speak, but you should go to #ubuntu-tablet channel for that
[23:59] <rymate1234> there's a reason its javaSCRIPT