[00:01] <jcastro> which ones?
[00:01] <jcastro> I can link up with one of them
[00:01] <jcastro> now that like half my friends work at MWF apparently, lol
[00:02] <greg-g> Ryan isn't, unfortunately, but marktraceur (developer) is
[00:02] <greg-g> haha, yeah, luis, quim, me :)
[00:12] <rick_h_> jrwren: lol, no, no aware of evan that I know of.
[00:13] <rick_h_> greg-g: you're talking to the wrong guy, I'm not a MW fan :/
[00:25] <jcastro> rick_h_: I hate all wikis, MW is the least sucky though
[00:26] <rick_h_> jcastro: I've used a few and it's the bottom of my list tbh. But yea, wikis suck as a general rule
[00:33] <jcastro> rick_h_: so you saw discourse right?
[00:33] <jcastro> atwood's new thing?
[00:33] <jcastro> he's always whined about wikis too, but he chose to fix forums first
[00:34] <rick_h_> jcastro: yea, I looked at it briefly but didn't do much with it.
[00:48] <jcastro> hahah rick_h_
[00:48] <jcastro> I didn't know this
[00:48] <jcastro> http://askubuntu.com/a/256789/235
[00:48] <jcastro> I always go into insert mode
[00:49] <rick_h_> jcastro: ah, yea I have it mapped to ,p and ,y for yank/paste
[01:01] <rick_h_> test
[01:01] <rick_h_> hmmm, someone ping me pls
[01:03] <widox> rick_h_: ping
[01:03] <rick_h_> thanks
[01:17] <snap-l> rick_h_: poing
[01:18] <snap-l> jcastro: Discourse looks awesome.
[01:18] <jcastro> yeah, it's sweet
[01:18] <jcastro> well, going to be sweet
[01:18] <jcastro> even unfinished it's better than half the junk out there
[01:19] <snap-l> Yeah, and if there's another option besides phpbb and vbulletin, I'm all for it
[01:19] <snap-l> because while phpbb and vbulletin are... forums... I'd like something else
[01:19] <snap-l> and the wordpress forum software is wokny
[01:19] <snap-l> wonky
[02:05] <jrwren> i just hate forums
[02:05] <jrwren> i don't find them usable.
[02:14] <rick_h_> meh, they work for what they do.
[03:56] <snap-l> It depends on the forum, honestly
[12:41] <snap-l> Mornin
[12:57] <rick_h_> morning
[13:04] <brousch> yes
[13:09] <slestak> mmhm
[13:09] <slestak> it is a morning =)
[13:22] <snap-l> OK, the power went out at the building
[13:23] <snap-l> swear to god, one of the folks here called someone else in the building to say "Hey, the power went out"
[13:23] <snap-l> and rick_h_ can attest that the person who called did not need the phone.
[14:54] <jrwren> jcastro: greg-g: I'm interested in your moinmoin to MW upgrade. we have an ancient moinmoin here which we would like to migrate
[14:54] <jrwren> but no one is willing to tackle it.
[14:54] <jrwren> we would probably pay $$$ to either of you in professional services if you care to consult on it.
[14:57] <brousch> Moinmoin to mediawiki?
[15:07] <rick_h_> brousch: yea
[15:08] <brousch> Is there no other Python wiki to switch to?
[15:22] <snap-l> Well this is fun
[15:22] <snap-l> power keeps going out at work
[15:22] <rick_h_> https://twitter.com/jezdez/status/304609829354340352 and why I hate it when people throw "django has reusable apps" as the big reason to use it
[15:22] <rick_h_> snap-l: heh, time to go home and be more productive :)
[15:22] <snap-l> rick_h_: I think a strong case could be made. :)
[15:23] <brousch> rick_h_: Some of them work, but most don't go through the extra work of making the app general purpose
[15:24] <brousch> At least you can fork them and have someplace to start
[15:38] <snap-l> God, our Copyright system is broken: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolis_(film)#Copyright_issues
[17:51] <greg-g> rick_h_: you guys have set code review days, right?
[17:52] <greg-g> like, "today I review code instead of writing it"
[18:33] <rick_h_> greg-g: so we used to have a day on launchpad. Not currently
[18:33] <rick_h_> greg-g: but yea, to spread things out we each had a given day and our boss was to let that day be kind of a slack/code review day. Not much productivity expected
[18:51] <greg-g> rick_h_: interesting, quasi 20% time?
[18:52] <rick_h_> greg-g: well, since you never knew if you'd have a bunch of reviews of a few it was hard for a manager to plan
[18:52] <greg-g> right, good point
[18:52] <rick_h_> so plan on no productivity and if a dev had time, try to work on some low priority stuff that would be nice to have (dev tool, testing, etc) that wouldn't matter if it didn't get done until a week later or what not
[18:52] <greg-g> "luckily" we have tons of code in our review backlog from the community
[18:53] <rick_h_> so not really 20% in that "work on whatever you want..." but "spend the day reviewing and making things better"
[18:53]  * greg-g nods
[20:40] <Blazeix> that new chromebook pixel is shiny
[20:59] <rick_h_> pixel is pretty and I'd love to have a high res display, but no way I want to touch it and no way at that price point. Cost as much as the x230 I just got the wife and the plus on the pixel is the screen. Let me spend $200 more on the screen on an x230 please!
[21:00] <rick_h_> and usb2? ugh
[21:00] <rick_h_> 2560 x 1700 though..../me dreams of that on my 21" desktop display...
[21:01] <Blazeix> $1299 doesn't seem too bady price-wise
[21:01] <Blazeix> s/bady/bad/
[21:01] <rick_h_> it's full laptop at that point though. Not second/sub laptop. I can't get people to spend that now on a laptop
[21:01] <Blazeix> for a core i5 / 4Gb ram
[21:02] <Blazeix> that is a full laptop
[21:02] <rick_h_> Blazeix: yea, but chromeos
[21:03] <rick_h_> I guess if lenovo or dell came out with this and it was meant for me to work on I'd look at it differently
[21:03] <Blazeix> true
[21:03] <rick_h_> I like the idea of the chromeos machines, but as secondary computers
[21:03] <Blazeix> though i'm sure people will have ubuntu running on it in no time
[21:03] <rick_h_> and it's about 2x for a seconday imo and I'm one willing to spend $$
[21:04] <rick_h_> Blazeix: right, but when I put ubuntu on it I'm going to want to get my 240GB SSD on there
[21:04] <rick_h_> but yea, it looks pretty, love the display, boo on touch. 5hrs for that seems just a hair low.
[21:05] <Blazeix> i wonder if its ssd is proprietary
[21:05] <Blazeix> but yeah, once you start upgrading it that's a whole can of worms
[21:06] <rick_h_> wonder how much LTE you're getting at the higher price piont
[21:06] <rick_h_> hmmm, maybe if I used a desktop by day this would make a good laptop for travel/etc
[21:06] <rick_h_> I wonder how far the shell stuff on these has come
[21:12] <rick_h_> The team, for example, added a third microphone to the device so it not only cancels out background noise, but also the noise you make yourself when you type on the keyboard
[21:12] <rick_h_> heh, definitely seems cool
[21:21] <snap-l> I'd spend $1500 if I knew someone would have durable Linux installs on it
[21:22] <snap-l> $1500 for a Google Terminal is a bit too much
[21:22] <snap-l> Hell, over $150 is too much, IMHO
[21:22] <snap-l> but that's because I'm cheap
[21:59] <jrwren> can't i just remove chromeos from it and install ubuntu?
[22:07]  * greg-g is in awesome now
[22:19] <jrwren> jcastro: ping
[23:31] <snap-l> Just used the words "exceptionally uninterested in whatever marketing solutions you might have" to respond to some schmuck who wanted to put ads on OMC.