[00:00] <escott> fbdystang, if it would go away on reboot it a kernel bug of some kind
[00:00] <fuzzyghost> Heya, got a quick question; how bad is it, if you sudo chmod 0+rwx / on a local machine?
[00:00] <escott> fbdystang, or your /tmp is enormous
[00:00] <fbdystang> escott, should I just try rebooting now?
[00:00] <escott> fuzzyghost, reinstall
[00:00] <fuzzyghost> Really?
[00:01] <fuzzyghost> So, it is usable, as long as I don't reboot/turn off?
[00:01] <fuzzyghost> Is it fixable at this point that I can use it?
[00:01] <eighteens> hi i'm trying to get a kodak esp 2150 wireless printer to work in ubuntu 13.04 with no luck at all, however it will print to a hp printer via usb cable
[00:01] <surbs> escott, lunitik, fbdystang: i have class, will be moving location and disconnecting for the time being. hopefully you will be still on; as of now thank you for the help!
[00:01] <Guest65921> any one can help with getting ubuntu 12.10  to work with intel 845g graphics?
[00:02] <fuzzyghost> What were the permissions before hand?
[00:02] <fuzzyghost> Anything I can do?
[00:03] <surbs> Guest65921, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ might be a start
[00:03] <OerHeks> fuzzyghost, reinstall, backup your data first
[00:03] <fbdystang> escott, sudo du -sh /tmp says 100K
[00:04] <fuzzyghost> All my stuff is kept on a secondary drive, but I'm not in a position to reinstall at the moment.  I'm on vacation two states away from my secondary machines, no extra install discs.
[00:04] <sckssssss> can anyone tell me how to get unity back
[00:04] <Edogaa> anyone here use the i3 WM?
[00:04] <fuzzyghost> I didn't use -r, just on the root directory.  Root still owns /, and the directories below.  Can't I just sudo chmod o=rw, or o=r?
[00:05] <fbdystang> escott, i give up I am rebooting
[00:05] <mario45366> Lunikiti Do you happen to know why yahoo is redirecting google chrome 17 to http://m.yahoo.com/?.tsrc=yahoo&mobile_view_default=true  the mobile site?  I never did this before
[00:07] <hexacode> hey you guys, i had ubuntu and windows 7 running dual boot, then i installed mint over ubuntu and now i have no dual boot options...it just goes straight to windows....wat can i do about this? i know mint was installed successfully
[00:08] <Jordan_U> hexacode: Try asking in #grub or in the mint support channel. This channel only supports Ubuntu.
[00:08] <Jordan_U> !mint | hexacode
[00:09] <escott> fuzzyghost, if you didnt -r its mostly ok 755
[00:09] <fbdystang> escott, dang I rebooted and borked it. No GUI in. Please help me find the offending file through command line...please
[00:10] <escott> fuzzyghost, you do have to worry somewhat if it were a multi user system and someone notice and took advantag eof it
[00:10] <escott> fbdystang, you could boot the livecd and use the gui from it
[00:10] <fuzzyghost> Okay, going to set permissions in / back to 755.
[00:10] <fuzzyghost> I'm the only user set up on this laptop.
[00:10] <sckssssss> WHY DON'T I HAVE UNITY
[00:10] <fuzzyghost> Thank you.
[00:10] <sckssssss> woops
[00:11] <fbdystang> escott, ok I could do that, is that the best way?
[00:11] <escott> fbdystang, if you are more comfortable with a gui yes
[00:12] <fbdystang> escott, is it ok if I check back in with you later when I can be physically in front of the server/
[00:12] <fbdystang> *?
[00:13] <fuzzyghost> Just in case, my flub was sudo chmod o+rwx /*, but I performed a sudo chmod 755 /*.
[00:13] <fuzzyghost> So hopefully I won't need to reinstall.
[00:14] <fuzzyghost> Either way, thank you all for the help.
[00:14] <psomodi> Hi, anybody with any experience with VIA video drivers?
[00:15] <Lockzi> Hey guys, I have a problem I hope you can help me with. I am trying to autostart an rvm application on boot... Any hints? The problem is first of all RVM that assumes an bash environment, secondly I want it to run as a specific user
[00:15] <dr_willis> Via makes video chipsets? thought they were a MB chipset/maker
[00:16] <dr_willis> Lockzi:  no idea what rvm is.. but if its a non-X-Gui program. you could start it from rc.local as whatever user you want
[00:16] <Lockzi> dr_willis: https://rvm.io/
[00:16] <Lockzi> It's Ruby essentially
[00:17] <dr_willis> you can use sudo or su from rc.local to spawn somthing as a differnt  user. in  /etc/rc.local
[00:17] <Lockzi> can I "chain" that with a screen session that it lives in?
[00:20] <dr_willis> you could spawn a screen session from rc.local if you wanted
[00:20] <dr_willis> and screen can be set to auto-run differnent apps in differnt sessions
[00:20] <dr_willis> or use tmux, or byobu
[00:21] <Lockzi> dr_willis, what do you mean by "set to auto-run"? That sounds interesting ;)
[00:21] <dr_willis> you can run apps when you start screen...
[00:21] <dr_willis> just like it sounds..
[00:21] <Lockzi> Ah, ok
[00:21] <dr_willis> see the screen docs.. i rarely  use  the  feature
[00:22] <dr_willis> tmux has similer feature i recall
[00:22] <Lockzi> How would you recomment I try this out?
[00:22] <Lockzi> I rather not reboot all the time while testing
[00:23] <dr_willis> get a screen session doing what you want. then  figure out  how to  launch  it from rc.local
[00:23] <dr_willis> via sudo or su in rc.local
[00:24] <dr_willis> this may  not work right if your users are using encrypted homes..
[00:24] <dr_willis> and the user you want to run stuff as.. has their home encrypted
[00:24] <approach_> exit
[00:29] <Fishscene> ok so, I'm trying to boot a laptop off of Ubuntu. Can't burn a CD because it's 800MB, can't burn a DVD because (I have no idea?), BIOS spits error can't boot from device. I can't boot from USB because while creating it, Pendrive says it will be unbootable. Tried downloading Xubuntu, but I can't seem to get a good download link.
[00:29] <sckssssss> can nobody help me with unity?
[00:29] <fbdystang> escott, I found the file ".xsession-errors"
[00:30] <Fishscene> Does anyone know how I might possibly boot Ubuntu??
[00:30] <fbdystang> 170G
[00:30] <dr_willis> Fishscene:  the pendrivelinux site has alternative tools to  making  a bootable usb
[00:30] <Lockzi> dr_willis While testing now it asks me for a password when I run the su command, that will NOT happen when ran through rc.local?
[00:30] <dr_willis> Fishscene:  you can image the iso strifht to usb via dd or windows imageing tools if needed
[00:30] <dr_willis> Lockzi:  rc.local runs as root to  begin with
[00:31] <Lockzi> dr_willis Which means that chaning users should not require passwords?
[00:31] <dr_willis> sckssssss:  ask a actual question to see
[00:31] <dr_willis> Lockzi:  you got it
[00:31] <Lockzi> Perfect
[00:31] <Fishscene> dr_willis: I'll look into the pendrive alternate solution. I can't dd anything properly (believe me, I've tried)
[00:31] <sckssssss> oh, you mean repeat it
[00:31] <sckssssss> ok
[00:31] <dr_willis> Lockzi:  ive started vnc sessions that way befor
[00:32] <dr_willis> Fishscene:  what os are you  on right now?
[00:32] <Lockzi> So... In my script I have: su -c "screen -d -m -S SiriProxy" - administrator
[00:32] <sckssssss> when i login, there is no unity, just a desktop and icons
[00:32] <Lockzi> But it does not initiate a screen session...
[00:32] <sckssssss> happened after i installed updates
[00:32] <peopleoftheinter> i have an ad blocker in my android /etc/hosts, could someone please give me the link of http://adf.ly/B91Zt ? thx
[00:32] <fbdystang> dr_willis, how do I read a 170Gb error log through the command line?
[00:32] <dr_willis> sckssssss:  either its a video driver issue. or a user config issue.. if a newly  made user fails - that points to a video driver issue
[00:32] <sckssssss> its not the video drivers
[00:33] <sckssssss> i am still using them
[00:33] <dr_willis> fbdystang:  with the more or less commands..  but i bet you are going to have a hard time finding any  use full info
[00:33] <sckssssss> can also login to other window managers
[00:33] <Guest65921> any one can help with intel82845 graphics driver in ubuntu 12.10
[00:33] <Lockzi> Sorry, scratch that - it does indeed create a screen session... But then it does not run the following commands (silly me)
[00:33] <dr_willis> sckssssss:  prove that  statement by   adding a new user. and see if  they work properly
[00:34] <Fishscene> dr_willis: I'm on Windows 7 x64
[00:34] <fbdystang> dr_willis, is there a way to just display the last little bit of errors?
[00:34] <dr_willis> sckssssss:  sudo adduser billgates    then see if billgatges can login properly
[00:34] <dr_willis> Fishscene:  theres windows image tools that can image the iso  straight to flash. you may need to rename the .iso  to  .img  but they can work. I might  have some listed at  my   delicious.com/dr_willis page
[00:35] <Fishscene> ok. Thanks mate!
[00:35] <dr_willis> Fishscene:  the #raspberrypi channel should know of more imageing tools also.
[00:35] <dr_willis> about the only  time i use them is to  image a raspPi img to a sd card.
[00:35] <dr_willis> bb in a few...
[00:36] <crooper> q
[00:36] <idiocrash> hi guys, anyone familiar with OpenDirectory?
[00:37] <Lockzi> dr_willis: Where should I place my custom bash script? ~/bin?
[00:38] <Lockzi> init.d/?
[00:39] <Tellmarch> Hello, what is the best option to encrypt a full external hard drive? i'd like to keep good performances, if possible...
[00:41] <sckssssss> still no unity
[00:42] <sckssssss> new user logs in fine
[00:43] <escott> fbdystang, you can safely remove that
[00:44] <histo> !anyone | idiocrash
[00:44] <Jeaton> i dont know if this would be a problem with ubuntu, gnome, or xchat but when I click minimize to tray, xchat disappears completely
[00:44] <Jeaton> even though the process is still running
[00:44] <histo> Jeaton: it's on the launmcher
[00:46] <escott> fbdystang, tail ~/.xsession-errors
[00:46] <histo> s/launmcher/launcher/
[00:46] <Jofironses> ello, I'm going to engage in an academic projects in which I'm going to need signals of up to 5 V. So I'd like to know if it is possible to output such signals with the sound card in my pc from linux or is it better to use a serial port from usb? Or maybe there is another better choice?
[00:47] <sckssssss> i think you can get 3.3/5v out of usb
[00:48] <histo> Jofironses: serial/usb
[00:48] <Jeaton> histo, what do you mean by that? I know it use to stick it on the indicator tray
[00:48] <Jeaton> but it doesnt show up anywhere
[00:48] <Jofironses> right, is there something made to work with the serial on linux?
[00:49] <Jofironses> I mean, some kind of command
[00:49] <Jofironses> or maybe a library
[00:50] <histo> Jofironses: you could write directly to it in linux. Everything is files. You may wan't to look at rasbperry pi and their gpio pins or ask some of them. I'm sure there is an pi channel on freenode.
[00:50] <Fishscene> dr_willis: I figured out the pendrivelinux.com installer problem. The drive was formatted FAT32 or EXFAT. It needed to be NTFS. It's too bad that the format option on the universal usb installer doesn't *actually* format the drive to what it needs.
[00:51] <Jofironses> histo: Thanks for your sugestion, I'll look into it.
[00:52] <Lockzi> dr_willis: Thank you for your help - I got it working! :)
[00:52] <sckssssss> wish you would help me...
[00:52] <histo> Jofironses: or the arduino community would have some input
[00:52] <sckssssss> i heard you are good at it...
[00:53] <Jofironses> k
[00:53] <histo> !who | sckssssss
[00:54] <sckssssss> he knows who he is
[00:55] <celso_> hi people! Does anyone knows how to fix the "dummy output" sound bug on ubuntu 12.10 and ubuntu 12.04.2 versions?
[00:57] <StephBot> The new LibreOffice 4.0 is released, but why I can't update to it by using apt?
[00:57] <Jeaton> histo, what do you mean by it's on the launcher?
[00:57] <escott> StephBot, because thats not how ubuntu works
[00:58] <Tellmarch> StephBot, ubuntu will generally not let you use the latest versions of software... you'll get a new version when you upgrade your ubuntu (to 13.04 in a few months for instance)
[00:58] <Tellmarch> it's often possible to add unofficial repositories though, with the latest versions
[00:58] <PackOfHighly> anyone know why a bootable 12.04 on usb drive made with Pendrive would boot into the start screen (where you can select start unbuntu install unbutu boot 1st harddrive, etc) but just go to that screen again when you select any option besides boot from 1st harddrive?
[01:01] <sckssssss> why does unity suck so bad?
[01:01] <histo> Jeaton: the thing on the left side of the desktop where all the icons are. When you minimize something in unity it goes there to it's icon.
[01:01] <_helios_> sckssssss: I don't think Unity sucks.
[01:01] <histo> sckssssss: I don't think it does either. It's growing on me quite a bit. You don't have to use it either. No one is twisting your arm.
[01:02] <sckssssss> lol, yeah, you are right
[01:02] <sckssssss> i'll just stop using it
[01:02] <_helios_> sckssssss: there's plenty of flavors to choose from.
[01:03] <S-USA|Annoyed> Does a Wubi install need to be the same size as the target partition of the HDD you wish to move it to? (wubi-move.sh)
[01:03] <_helios_> S-USA|Annoyed: I wouldn't suggest a Wubi install.
[01:04] <histo> !notunity | sckssssss
[01:04] <histo> S-USA|Annoyed: who wrote wubi-move.sh?
[01:04] <Tellmarch> S-USA|Annoyed, it just needs to be bigger
[01:04] <sckssssss> i have gnome-shell
[01:05] <Jeaton> histo, im running gnome-classic, i guess that is supported here, and previous versions of ubuntu ive ran, it has always stuck it on the indicator tray
[01:05]  * dr_willis suggests running away from wubi
[01:05] <sckssssss> only use it when unity hates me
[01:05]  * _helios_ agrees with dr_willis 
[01:05] <Tellmarch> guys, he's precisely trying to run away from wub
[01:05] <Tellmarch> wubi
[01:05] <histo> Jeaton: What version of ubuntu are you running?
[01:06] <Jeaton> 12.10
[01:06] <Jeaton> anyway, this install, whenever i minimize xchat, it disappears completely, even though the process is still running
[01:06] <histo> Jeaton: How exactly are you running gnome-classic?  Did you install gnome-panel?
[01:06] <histo> Jeaton: Can you bring it back with alt+tab
[01:07] <psomodi> hi everyone
[01:07] <Jeaton> ive never tried alt+tab to see if it works
[01:07] <asdad5a> hi
[01:07] <asdad5a> how i can make the cube
[01:07] <psomodi> anybody with experience with via chrome9 gpu's?
[01:07] <asdad5a> with alt+tab xubuntu
[01:07] <psomodi> i cant boot live cd... :S
[01:07] <asdad5a> why?
[01:07] <asdad5a> what appear?
[01:07] <Jeaton> anyway, i just switched it over to gnome classic under session when I did a fresh install
[01:08] <psomodi> i get black screen before ubuntu 12.10 and four dots screen
[01:08] <dr_willis> asdad5a: the cube is a compiz feature.
[01:08] <SonikkuAmerica> (TEST)
[01:08] <LaserShark> (echo)
[01:08] <dr_willis> SonikkuAmerica: pass
[01:09] <grimeton> hi
[01:09] <asdad5a> i got that trouble with amd hd6520g
[01:09] <SonikkuAmerica> dr_willis, LaserShark: (Thank you, I was having connection issues.)
[01:09] <Jeaton> no, alt+tab isn't working
[01:09] <asdad5a> when you poweron your pc
[01:09] <grimeton> either i have some trouble with my filesystem or somebody put a file with utf-8 into the package tree
[01:09] <asdad5a> appear the grub
[01:09] <grimeton> the readline-common package has a lot of utf-8 stuff in it
[01:09] <grimeton> and apt-get errors out
[01:09] <dr_willis> !nomodeset | asdad5a
[01:09] <asdad5a> and you need to edit something and agree some words that i cant remember and it work
[01:10] <Ben64> SonikkuAmerica: you know, you could just do /whois SonikkuAmerica
[01:11] <SonikkuAmerica> Ben64: True enough... it said I wasn't connected before. A couple of people think it's floodbot ban magic.
[01:12] <SonikkuAmerica> Anyway: I'm planning on migrating a Wubi install to a physical partition via the wubi-move.sh script. Do the Wubi install and the physical partition have to be the same size for it to work correctly? (Currently, Wubi < physical partition)
[01:12] <YueFairchild> I'm having trouble with installing xubuntu from a live cd.
[01:13] <YueFairchild> Whenever the installer gets to the part where it loads the webcam to take a user picture, it displays garbage characters in the webcam window, then says it reached an unrecoverable error.
[01:13] <YueFairchild> What am I doing wrong?
[01:13] <sazpaimon_> how do I make it so alt+tab switches between all windows, instead of grouping by applications?
[01:13] <sazpaimon_> Ubuntu 12.10 BTW
[01:14] <Tellmarch> YueFairchild, ubuntu is doing something wrong, not you :-)
[01:14] <escott> YueFairchild, thats fun. can you disable the webcam?
[01:15] <YueFairchild> I don't know linux so well. Is that possible, from the live CD?
[01:15] <escott> YueFairchild, the easiest would be to unplug it but if it is built in thats harder
[01:15] <YueFairchild> Built-in, I'm afraid. It's a laptop.
[01:16] <Lucenut> Hey guys, I'm a newb with xubuntu. I like it but can't figure out how to connect to my local network/windows shares.
[01:16] <PackOfHighly> Anyone know why booting to a live USB and selecting the first option on the  boot menu to start a live session would just start the boot menu over again?
[01:16] <YueFairchild> Escott, is it okay if I PM you?
[01:16] <dr_willis> sazpaimon_: i belive thers a stting in compiz via the ccsm tool for that. i think i saw a guide on that tweak at    askubuntu.com
[01:16] <escott> YueFairchild, if you ctrl-alt-f1 and login at the console you can "sudo lsmod | grep v4l" and that should list something. then "sudo rmmod <<the word with v4l on the left>>"
[01:17] <escott> YueFairchild, ctrl-alt-f7 to get back to the gui
[01:17] <witheld> Okay, Ubuntu has a package called libwebkitgtk-1.0-0. It also has a package called libwebkitgtk-3.0. Both of these have the exact same description. The newest version of webkitgtk(according to webkitgtk.org), is 1.11.5. I'm confused
[01:17] <sazpaimon_> dr_willis, I assigned alt tab to "Key to flip through windows in the switcher", but that makes it so alt+tab is essentially alt+`
[01:18] <SonikkuAmerica> PackOfHighly: Probably either a recursive call in the menu, or something got nutsed up when you downloaded the ISO in the first place.
[01:18] <escott> YueFairchild, alternately "sudo rmmod videodev" but I dont want to make assumptions about what device module it is
[01:18] <YueFairchild> Ummm.
[01:18] <arcadia> Hello?
[01:18] <YueFairchild> Can I PM you? I'm not getting a console.
[01:18] <SonikkuAmerica> arcadia: Hello!
[01:19] <Lucenut> Actually I guess I have Xfce. How do I connect to my local network windows shares?
[01:19] <Tellmarch> Lucenut, first answer in http://xubuntu.org/news/faq-1204-precise/ ?
[01:19] <SonikkuAmerica> >>> I'm planning on migrating a Wubi install to a physical partition via the wubi-move.sh script. Do the Wubi install and the physical partition have to be the same size for it to work correctly? (Currently, Wubi < physical partition)
[01:20] <YueFairchild> I typed sudo lsmod | grep v4lm and nothing happened
[01:20] <Tellmarch> SonikkuAmerica, then you're fine
[01:20] <escott> YueFairchild, alternately you could boot the livecd and select try ubuntu then remove the module, then click the install ubuntu button
[01:20] <arcadia> I need to ask your advice on something. If thats okay and ofcourse youre not busy and all :D
[01:20] <Tellmarch> SonikkuAmerica, it checks the size for you anyway
[01:20] <SonikkuAmerica> Tellmarch: Thanks! (I've been waiting all day for an answer)
[01:20] <PackOfHighly> SonikkuAmerica: the md5sum checks out and I didn't make any changes to the boot menu.  It's what comes on ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso
[01:20] <escott> YueFairchild, its preferred to keep the conversation in channel in case someone else sees something im missing
[01:20] <YueFairchild> Oh, okay
[01:22] <mlimb> hi all- does anyone use virtualenvwrapper here?
[01:22] <sayd> yup
[01:22] <mlimb> i'm trying to locate my virtualenvwrapper_bashrc file
[01:22] <YueFairchild> I'm going to try disabling the module from the Xubuntu UI.
[01:22] <YueFairchild> How do I do that?
[01:22] <mlimb> and been looking up linux commands to do one, but having difficulty
[01:22] <Lucenut> "Yes, using Gigolo. If you are not able to see the network check if gvfs-backends is installed."
[01:22] <Lucenut> How do I do that?
[01:23] <mlimb> sayd: do you know where your virtualenvwrapper_bashrc file is located?
[01:23] <escott> YueFairchild, the module is either going to be videodev or something related to v4l
[01:23] <sayd> mlimb: looking
[01:23] <YueFairchild> But...
[01:23] <YueFairchild> How do I GET TO the module?
[01:23] <mlimb> when I do locate 'virtualenvwrapper_bashrc' or find -name 'virtualenvwrapper_bashrc' I don't get any output
[01:23] <mlimb> sayd: thanks
[01:23] <sayd> mlimb: youre talking abuot the file youre supposed to source in .{bash|zsh}login right
[01:23] <mlimb> sayd: yep
[01:23] <escott> YueFairchild, with lsmod the stuff on the left is the module, the stuff on the right depends on the stuff on the left. so lsmod | grep v4l will show you the v4l module, you probably have videodev attached to that and uvcvideo or whatever actual camera driver attached to videodev.
[01:24] <sayd> mine is /usr/local/share/python/virtualenvwrapper.sh
[01:24] <sayd> im not sure where you got that filename
[01:24] <fbdystang> escott, I figured out the file and deleted it. I found the problem with the logs being huge = vino-server. can I just reinstall vino-server to get it running again?
[01:24] <escott> YueFairchild, the actual command to remove modules is "sudo rmmod module-name"
[01:24] <mlimb> i got it from this link http://www.doughellmann.com/articles/pythonmagazine/completely-different/2008-05-virtualenvwrapper/index.html
[01:24] <escott> fbdystang, you can also periodically remove that file
[01:24] <mlimb> sayd: what command do you recommend for finding file or directory on linux??
[01:25] <mlimb> that you have no idea where it is
[01:25] <sayd> which
[01:25] <sayd> locate, whence, whereis
[01:25] <escott> fbdystang, there is probably a way you could redirect xsession errors to /dev/null on a specific application basis which might be the best workaround
[01:25] <sayd> find
[01:25] <mlimb> sayd: if you don't get any output does it mean it doesn't exist??
[01:26] <sayd> find . -name foo*.c
[01:26] <arcadia> I am new to linux and messing with ubuntu. Most of the time, i am encountering errors that is not familiar with me. I need to somewhat restore the current state of my ubuntu like nothing happened so that i can do trial and error. I tried google and the best answer i got is to clone my partition, I need your advice.
[01:26] <sayd> mlimb: no those w* commands all search the PATH
[01:26] <dr_willis> locate uses a database thats updated tegullary
[01:26] <fbdystang> escott, I had done that previously but it looks like it broke on an update or something. I also created a directory with the same name so it couldn't write to it. Broke again. I found the reason the logs were growing and it is fixed. However, vino-server does not work, any ideas?
[01:27] <escott> fbdystang, not really
[01:27] <mlimb> sayd: you're saying that all the w* commands only search within the path, so files not in the path wont' be detected, right?
[01:27] <sayd> yep mlimb
[01:27] <elisa87> What should I do? unable to find program 'java' on your PATH
[01:28] <mlimb> sayd: but what does it mean if you don't get any return stmt? after i type any of the above commands with virtualenvwrapper_bashrc i don't get any output
[01:28] <sayd> you can use find from the root with sudo to search all the things
[01:28] <dr_willis> install java
[01:28] <dr_willis> !java
[01:28] <mlimb> sayd: ok but that would probably take more time I assume
[01:28] <sayd> mlimb: sudo find / -name virtualenvwrapper*
[01:28] <fbdystang> escott, it looks like a simple restart fixed vino-server. Wow. Thanks for the help :)
[01:29] <arcadia> Hello
[01:29] <arcadia> mind if i ask something?
[01:29] <sayd> mlimb: did you install recently?
[01:29] <sayd> follow the docs here: and make sure you have the env vars set: http://virtualenvwrapper.readthedocs.org/en/latest/install.html
[01:29] <histo> sayd: whynot use locate
[01:29] <sayd> it looks like the _bashrc is from 1.x
[01:30] <sayd> histo: i told him about locate
[01:31] <Lucenut> OK, so I enter my Server name in Gigolo, then it asks for share and I enter the share name which is "wwwroot" and username "Greg".
[01:31] <Lucenut> But it won't connect.
[01:31] <histo> mlimb: locate filename   If it's something recently installed sudo updatedb first  to update slocates database
[01:31] <Bray90820> Anyone around to help me fix my charging problem on my dell insperon duo
[01:31] <Bray90820> every time i plug or unplug the charger i get a kernel panic
[01:32] <Lucenut> It pops up a dialog asking for Domain and password.
[01:32] <paws> how can i monitor my RAM to see which process is taking up ram... it keeps going higher and higher.. and my ram never goes any lower
[01:32] <elisa87> dr_willis which java? oracle java or sun java?
[01:32] <Lucenut> I tried WORKGROUP and then my pw but no worky.
[01:32] <sayd> paws: top
[01:32] <Tellmarch> elisa87, oracle bought sun
[01:33] <Tellmarch> so it's the same
[01:33] <escott> paws, what possible benefit is there to having ram usage go down?
[01:33] <mlimb> sayd: yep that worked!
[01:33] <paws> sayd: top sorts the processes by CPU how can sort it by RAM
[01:33] <escott> !atemyram
[01:33] <Bray90820> Sun almost bought apple once
[01:33] <histo> paws: you can use top or nmon or ps
[01:33] <escott> paws, ^^^
[01:33] <mlimb> sayd: o I'm not him
[01:33] <paws> escott: when i reach 90s% i want it to go down :)
[01:33] <sayd> paws: oram
[01:33] <fbdystang> temp
[01:34] <escott> paws, then i'm glad you don't write operating systems
[01:34] <mlimb> histo: o that helps too thanks
[01:34] <sayd> actually not sure what the command is to sort by ram in ubuntu's top
[01:35] <sayd> in osx you can use 'o' in the app to change the ordering
[01:35] <arcadia> I need to somewhat restore the current state of my ubuntu like nothing happened so that i can do trial and error. I tried google and the best answer i got is to clone my partition, I need your advice.
[01:35] <sayd> paws: f
[01:36] <histo> paws: make sure you read the linuxatemyram.com  page
[01:38] <Lucenut> What do I put for domain when trying to connect to windows shares with Gigolo? I tried WORKGROUP.
[01:39] <histo> sayd: you can use the > key to move forward through the column sorts. and < to go back
[01:40] <histo> or press the n key
[01:40] <sayd> histo: thx
[01:40] <deadmund> Using wireshark, what is this traffic I see going to "daisy.ubuntu.com" ?
[01:41] <sayd> histo is there a way to know what the current sort is?
[01:41] <sayd> there is no visual cue with using >?
[01:42] <dr_willis> htop is a little easier to use
[01:43] <elisa87> Why do I have this error ? hpcviewer: cannot execute binary file
[01:43] <escott> YueFairchild, any progress?
[01:43] <SunMoonStar> Hi all. I want to install this font and am having trouble. http://www.levien.com/type/myfonts/inconsolata.html Fristly I don't know which file type to get. It offers otf and psa and something else. I tried to download the OTF one and in the ubuntu font viewer I clicked Install. However, it said install failed.
[01:43] <Random832> SunMoonStar: try putting the file in your ~/.fonts directory (make the directory if it doesn't exist)
[01:44] <SunMoonStar> Random832: and that is all?
[01:44] <Random832> i said try it - i make no guarantees it will work
[01:44] <Random832> the OTF is probably the file you want though
[01:44] <histo> sayd: turning color mode on with z you can see
[01:44] <YueFairchild> Sorry!
[01:44] <histo> sayd: or if you use b possibly
[01:44] <YueFairchild> This is my mom's laptop, soooo she decided she'd use my computer.
[01:44] <escott> SunMoonStar, spin around clockwise three times and chant "i think it will work, i think it will work, i think it will work"
[01:45] <escott> SunMoonStar, you might have to logout, but with any basic ttf that should be sufficient
[01:45] <SunMoonStar> wow that worked
[01:45] <histo> sayd: type x then b
[01:45] <SunMoonStar> haha
[01:45] <SunMoonStar> thanks guys
[01:45] <YueFairchild> So...What am I doing, exactly?
[01:45] <YueFairchild> To disable the webcam from the live CD?
[01:45] <sayd> histo: nice
[01:45] <histo> sayd: I'm just quickly browsing hte man pages there are tons of options. I just use nmon or htop
[01:45] <SunMoonStar> I'm not sure if it worked because of ~/.fonts or because I spun around 3 times
[01:45] <escott> YueFairchild, well you have to get to a terminal, and then find and remove the appropriate module
[01:46] <YueFairchild> Okay. How do I get to a terminal?
[01:46] <YueFairchild> Ctrl-alt-f1?
[01:46] <sayd> yeah, i was looking at ntop too
[01:46] <histo> sayd: htop is a lot nicer.  nmon is more of an overall tool. not pid specific.
[01:46] <Bray90820> on my dell insperon duo netbook every time i plug or unplug the charger i get a kernel panic
[01:46] <genii-around> YueFairchild: More importantly, don't forget how to return to the desktop:  alt-F7
[01:47] <histo> Bray90820: What from acpi freaking out?  Have yout ried search askubuntu or the forums for your model + version of ubunut?
[01:47] <YueFairchild> heh.
[01:47] <escott> YueFairchild, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1695359/
[01:47] <YueFairchild> Okay.
[01:47] <elisa87> dr_willis Why do I have this error ? hpcviewer: cannot execute binary file
[01:47] <YueFairchild> I'm at a terminal.
[01:47] <Bray90820> i have tried ubuntu forums and everyone is saying that dell themselves have to fix it but on some ubuntu based distros such as JollyOS it works fine
[01:48] <escott> YueFairchild, so "lsmod | grep vid" and figure out what one is the camera
[01:48] <Bray90820> if i disable acpi it works correctly tho
[01:48] <histo> YueFairchild: why are you trying to disable the webcam?
[01:48] <YueFairchild> Because the installer crashes.
[01:48] <dr_willis> elisa87: file is not executable or currupted. or invalis
[01:48] <escott> histo, kernel panic on install
[01:48] <YueFairchild> Anyway, all I got was
[01:48] <histo> ahh
[01:48] <YueFairchild> >videodev 95841 1 gspca_main
[01:48] <histo> that's odd
[01:48] <dr_willis> elisa87: file is not executable or currupted. or invalid script file
[01:48] <YueFairchild> >video 18847 1 1915
[01:48] <YueFairchild> That's all I got.
[01:48] <histo> YueFairchild: lsmod | grep vid | pastebinit
[01:48] <escott> YueFairchild, the gspca_main is probably the one you want
[01:49] <YueFairchild> So...What do I type to disable gspca_main?
[01:49] <escott> YueFairchild, "sudo rmmod gscpa_main"
[01:49] <escott> YueFairchild, "sudo rmmod gspca_main"
[01:49] <Bray90820> histo i think acpi is freaking out
[01:50] <escott> YueFairchild, and hopefully it doesn't get reprobed later.
[01:50] <histo> Bray90820: So it's an issue with whatever kernel you are running and your hardware if others are fine.
[01:50] <histo> Bray90820: What version of ubuntu are you running?
[01:50] <YueFairchild> ERROR: Module gspca_main is in use by gspca_vc032x
[01:50] <Bray90820> 12.04 x64
[01:50] <escott> YueFairchild, then remove the gspca_vc032x then gspca_main
[01:50] <elisa87> dr_willis how can I convert a C++ program into .exe binary?
[01:50] <Bray90820> and it has happened on all previous versions of ubuntu as well
[01:50] <escott> elisa87, g++
[01:51] <histo> Bray90820: You could try running a newer kernel and see if it solves your issue
[01:51] <YueFairchild> I think it worked.
[01:51] <dr_willis> elisa87: you compile code. and windows uses. exe  not linux
[01:52] <psomodi> Hi, do you know how to start openchrome drivers at grub menu?
[01:52] <Bray90820> histo if i run this code it seems to fix it
[01:52] <Bray90820> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=EdJu3HXb
[01:52] <histo> Bray90820: although I believe they just added the quantal kernel to precise with 12.04.2
[01:52] <Bray90820> but i think that just turns ACPI off
[01:52] <escott> YueFairchild, lsmod | grep gspca should be blank
[01:52] <YueFairchild> Here we go. :x
[01:52] <elisa87> dr_willis:  sorry I have this .C file and I don't know how to turn it into .exe binary ?! with gcc
[01:52] <escott> YueFairchild, then try the install. hopefully it works. if it does you will want to blacklist those modules after the install
[01:52] <YueFairchild> Let's see if it crashes again.
[01:53] <histo> Bray90820: I'm not sure perhaps someone else will.
[01:53] <YueFairchild> I think it worked!
[01:53] <Bray90820> Anyone else :)
[01:53] <YueFairchild> IT WORKED!
[01:53] <YueFairchild> Thank you so much, everyone?
[01:54] <Bray90820> Also if i close the cover and then plug/unplug the charger i don't get the panic
[01:54] <escott> YueFairchild, do lookup modules blacklists
[01:55] <escott> YueFairchild, you just need a file in /etc/modprobe.d that contains "blacklist gspcs-blah-blah
[01:55] <escott> YueFairchild, and maybe an update-initramfs
[01:56] <cagrijost> hello guys, anyone know about the ubuntu installer=
[01:56] <cfhowlett> !anyone|cagrijost,
[01:57] <cagrijost> sorry :-( my installer wont detect anything on my 3tb harddisk on the laptop. it shows an empty harddisk
[02:00] <escott> cagrijost, brand new laptop with windows 7?
[02:00] <cagrijost> brand new with win 7, but upgraded to win 8
[02:00] <escott> cagrijost, interesting. can you paste the output of "sudo parted -l"
[02:01] <escott> !paste | cagrijost
[02:01] <pooltable> when i am chose from two grafix cards is core clock speeed the main factor on the fastest ??
[02:01] <escott> pooltable, no
[02:02] <cagrijost>  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10  	  Number  Start  End  Size  File system  Name  Flags   Model: Integral Courier (scsi) Disk /dev/sdb: 16,0GB Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B Partition Table: msdos  Number  Start   End     Size    Type     File system  Flags  1      4129kB  16,0GB  16,0GB  primary  fat32        boot, lba
[02:02] <cagrijost> okay.. that was bad
[02:02] <pooltable> escott how do i know?
[02:02] <cagrijost> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1695465/
[02:03] <escott> cagrijost, its not even showing the disk. that is exciting
[02:03] <pooltable> escott not sure on amd which is 21 more money or nvida?
[02:03] <cagrijost> sorry my bad
[02:03] <cagrijost> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1695478/
[02:03] <escott> cagrijost, gotta love MSFT they really screwed that one up
[02:04] <cagrijost> what is msft :b
[02:04] <psusi> what do you mean not showing the disk?
[02:04] <escott> cagrijost, so rodsbooks.com is going to be something you will want as a reference
[02:04] <escott> cagrijost, assuming that windows boots it appears that your win7->win8 transition introduced a blank gpt table onto the disk but did not invalidate the existing msdos table
[02:04] <pooltable> or any other grafix card compare site help ???
[02:04] <dr_willis> !compile | elisa87
[02:05] <escott> cagrijost, on top of that an msdos table won't support your 3tb disk
[02:05] <psusi> escott, why do you say that?
[02:05] <psusi> escott, he didn't show the disk in question in his paste
[02:05] <asdff> hello all.. quick question.. anyone who has a acer c7 chrubuntu installed, is apt-get upgrade or dist-upgrade safe or will it break anything? anything i should know?
[02:05] <mega1> is there a command to see whos using the ftp when they loged in
[02:05] <escott> psusi, i was responding to the first paste
[02:05] <dr_willis> asdff:  chrubuntu?
[02:05] <elisa87> a .o is considered an application or only a .exe ?
[02:06] <cfhowlett> dr_willis, chrome buntu??
[02:06] <SolarisBoy> really?
[02:06] <dr_willis> elisa87:  the  extension .exe is for windows. not linux
[02:06] <psusi> escott, I must have missed it, where's that?
[02:06] <cagrijost> psusi: the installer says i got no existing OS on my drive etc. and when it press the "do something else" button, then it shows one big 3tb partition
[02:06] <dr_willis> elisa87:  a file in linux is executable it it has the executable bit set
[02:06] <psusi> cagrijost, and what does parted -l show?
[02:06] <YueFairchild> Uhhh.
[02:06] <YueFairchild> It restarted and all I see is a black screen.
[02:06] <cagrijost> escott: you sure? because the win8 was a clean install, i whiped everything etc
[02:06] <escott> cagrijost, for your system the configuration i would want is a gpt table with a bios boot. that means you need to use "gdisk" to zap the gpt structures, then convert the existing msdos table to a gpt table, then add a grub_bios partition of 1MB or so, and then install ubuntu
[02:06] <asdff> chrubuntu = chromebooks ubuntu
[02:07] <YueFairchild> Did I break something?
[02:07] <escott> cagrijost, well it did something wrong
[02:07] <escott> !nomodeset | YueFairchild
[02:07] <dr_willis> asdff:  update/upgrade/distupgrade should be safe - Upgradeing to the next RELEASE may be a problem
[02:07] <mega1> is there a command to see whos using the ftp when they loged in, on ubuntu server 12.04
[02:07] <escott> cagrijost, you should NOT have a gpt table that is empty
[02:07] <escott> cagrijost, ubuntu is entirely in the right claiming that disk is blank
[02:08] <psusi> escott, actually, it isn't...
[02:08] <escott> cagrijost, i imagine "sudo fdisk -l" will show your windows partitions
[02:08] <cagrijost> escott: but any disk partition application on windows says otherwise
[02:08] <costin> how do i find out where an application in launcher has its icon?
[02:08] <psusi> escott, if a fresh MBR has been placed on the disk with "normal" partitions on it, the gpt is invalid and should be ignored... earlier versions of parted were buggy in this regard
[02:08] <dr_willis> costin:  its  defined in the apps .desktop file
[02:08] <dr_willis> costin:  ie:   gedit.desktop
[02:09] <psusi> cagrijost, what did parted -l show? I only saw one pastebin link and it was edited to only show your flash drive
[02:09] <escott> psusi, if you are putting an msdos table on the disk you should clear the gpt
[02:09] <costin> dr_willis: it doesn't have a desktop file
[02:09] <costin> dr_willis: i'm really intrigued where it got this icon
[02:10] <cagrijost> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1695527/
[02:10] <elisa87> dr_willis is sample.o considered to be an application in Linux? gcc sample.c -o sample -lm
[02:10] <psusi> escott, maybe, but you don't have to... the EFI standard says if there isn't a type ee protective partition listed in the MBR, you ignore any gpt
[02:10] <costin> dr_willis: the application is drawterm
[02:10] <asdff> i wonder why when i open my laptop monitor up polkitd comes and makes my 2h battery times 45 minutes, everytime. iv read rm -rf .pulse and .dbus would fix but not here
[02:10] <asdff> taking up all the cpu usage
[02:11] <b35u> hi all -- anyone familiar with ubuntu installations in virtualbox?
[02:11] <cfhowlett> b35u, yes.
[02:11] <Fishscene> b35u: Is there a specific question you had?
[02:11] <escott> psusi, alright
[02:12] <b35u> os x host, installed 12.10 64-bit mostly without issue.  uninstalled due to sluggish x interface, heard 12.04 would be better.
[02:12] <escott> cagrijost, in any case what you need to do is straightforward and annoying. install gdisks to start. zap gpt, convert mbr to gpt, add a grub_bios partition, install ubuntu
[02:12] <danielboston26> has anyone tried out ubuntu for nexus 7?
[02:12] <jagginess> anyone want to try a potential issue (bash), "le" starts up with "fc" (an internal bash command), there's nothing binded to fc ("type fc<enter" nothing, which fc, ) , however "fc -l" works as expected..   > issue is typing "fc<enter>" starts up the 'le' editor with 'fc text on the buffer.. lol
[02:12] <psusi> escott, that's probably going to break his windows
[02:12] <cfhowlett> !tablet|danielboston26,
[02:13] <escott> psusi, no it wont
[02:13] <cagrijost> escott: wouldnt that delete my win8?
[02:13] <pooltable> what is g3d mards on grafix card?
[02:13] <escott> psusi, done it many times
[02:13] <pooltable> marks
[02:13] <cfhowlett> b35u, lagginess?  ram ... more ram, less lag
[02:13] <escott> cagrijost, only problem it might cause if if your uefi decides to change the boot mode from bios emulation to efi boot
[02:14] <b35u> well, the issue is with the 12.04 install -- after installation finishes, i get the low-graphics mode error, which is fine, but i can never get the CLI to load at all.
[02:14] <b35u> can't do an apt-get update, can't install guest additions.
[02:14] <escott> psusi, and if he doesn't do it he is wasting 0.80TB of his disk
[02:15] <cfhowlett> b35u, boot into text mode?
[02:15] <psusi> escott, so fdisk shows his working windows partition but parted shows a valid, but empty gpt?  that is very odd
[02:15] <cagrijost> escott: i got the disk split in 2, so i get the 0,80 TB :b
[02:15] <b35u> cfhowlett, not sure how through virtualbox... would love to try
[02:16] <escott> cagrijost, split in two?
[02:16] <pooltable> what is g3d marks on grafix card?
[02:16] <Sir_Leto> Anyone know how I would fix this? I installed xubuntu on a parition on my second hard drive, but the MBR wasn't over written
[02:16] <cfhowlett> b35u, see   http://askubuntu.com/questions/92276/how-do-i-boot-into-true-text-mode
[02:16] <Sir_Leto> so when I try to boot that drive, the old windows boot options show up even though windows isn't on that drive
[02:16] <escott> cagrijost, maybe that is your problem if you are doing something exotic with the disk
[02:17] <cfhowlett> Sir_Leto, you have to tell grub where the bootable disk is  then run sudo update-grub
[02:17] <cagrijost> escott: so, the plan is: move everything from my 0,8tb drive to the 2,2. and then convert?
[02:18] <psusi> escott, I assume he means partitioned.  technically MBR can have a partition that starts just before 2TB, then runs for another 2TB to get nearly 4 TB
[02:18] <cagrijost> hmm
[02:18] <cagrijost> its like a c and d drive
[02:19] <elisa87> dr_willis how can I find the package where mpirun is there mpirun hpcrun -t -e RETCNT -e WALLCLOCK@1 sample.o
[02:19] <costin> how do i get the desktop file corresponding to a launcher icon?
[02:19] <cagrijost> escott && psusi: (dont know if that work) i can browse the 2.2 part of my harddisk on ubuntu, if that clears anything up
[02:20] <escott> psusi, i've never heard of that and fdisk does not show that
[02:20] <psusi> cagrijost, where is the parted -l output?
[02:20] <escott> cagrijost, psusi end of sda2 is at 4294967295*512/1000/1000/1000/1000=2.19902TB
[02:21] <elisa87> dr_willis do you think this would help me ? for mpirun? sudo aptitude install mpich-bin mpich-mpd-bin mpich-shmem-bin libmpich1.0-dev
[02:21] <escott> cagrijost, psusi you are only using 4.... out of the 5860533168 sectors on sda
[02:21] <cagrijost> psusi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1695527/
[02:22] <Tellmarch> cagrijost, is the other partition hidden somehow?
[02:22] <Spec[x]> Hi. Anyone know how I can tell which protocol my wireless connection is using? (802.11 g vs n..etc) ?
[02:22] <kaushal> Hi
[02:23] <Sir_Leto> cfhowlett: Would just changing the drive flags in gparted work?
[02:23] <kaushal> Are there any project planning software available in Ubuntu?
[02:23] <cagrijost> tellmarch: i don't know why linux wont see it.  when i installed win 8, i forgot about my 3.0 tb, so i formatted it as MBR. then i found out later, and used a partition program to somehow make another disk with the unallocated space
[02:23] <cfhowlett> Sir_Leto, only 1 bootable drive and that's where grub should be installed ... yes
[02:23] <Tellmarch> did you check a "hid partition" option in that partition program? :p
[02:23] <Tellmarch> hide*
[02:23] <cagrijost> its not hidden :b
[02:23] <kaushal> for example divide the entire project and plan and assign it to specific people
[02:24] <cagrijost> it works fine on win8, and i checked it to see if it was hidden, and it wasnt
[02:24] <escott> cagrijost, its not visible to us. there are two partitions using only 2.2TB of the 3TB disk (as expected)
[02:24] <Sir_Leto> also, can I shrink my ext4 partition? I didn't want to make swap partition at the time, but then I thought I might need it.
[02:24] <colonelqubit> How can I determine what protocol my printer driver is using to communicate? If choose "HP LaserJet 4 Plus - CUPS+Gutenprint v5.2.8-pre1" -- is that a postscript driver?
[02:25] <Tellmarch> cagrijost, i guess it's because you used GPT?
[02:25] <psusi> cagrijost, that is the fdisk output, not parted... and yea, it does only show 2TB used
[02:25] <Sir_Leto> I guess not, there isn't an option in gparted
[02:26] <Tellmarch> have you tried seeing the partitions in linux with gparted ?
[02:26] <escott> Tellmarch, it will show the parted output which is an empty gpt table
[02:26] <jagginess> cagrijost, shows how to partition drive as GPT (and without using EFI bios -- because you need a special grub partition for GPT) https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkjr4l5aFdzqOQPtvX6VtXdSFpxWWWrR-
[02:27] <mogaj> I am using ubuntu 12.10 ... am not able to change desktop backhround! when i try to right click and choose change background i am shown system settings not an option to change background ... what should i do to change background?
[02:27] <pooltable> looking for a good grafix card compre web site ???
[02:27] <cfhowlett> !hardware|pooltable,
[02:28] <ubuntu_user> how to find the public ip address of ubuntu machine?
[02:28] <frostb1te> Anyone know why my HDMI isnt working
[02:28] <Sir_Leto> ifconfig?
[02:28] <Sir_Leto> ubuntu_user: ifconfig?
[02:28] <frostb1te> if someone is willing to help ill send them my results from lspci | grep VGA
[02:29] <cfhowlett> ubuntu_user, whatismyip.com
[02:29] <ubuntu_user> ifconfig -a displays private IP.
[02:29] <ubuntu_user> i need from command line
[02:29] <frostb1te> I might just go back too windows :(
[02:29] <psomodi> Hi, anybody with experience in openchrome video driver?
[02:29] <luckybunny> why would you do something so silly?
[02:30] <Spec[x]> ubuntu_user: the machine you're currently on?
[02:30] <frostb1te> I cant get my hdmi working
[02:30] <luckybunny> frostb1te: have you installed the driver for your gfx card?
[02:30] <frostb1te> i tried
[02:30] <frostb1te> said xserver is already being used
[02:31] <frostb1te> i followed like 20 instructions and none worked
[02:31] <cagrijost> let me find a screenshot from the install
[02:31] <luckybunny> hmm
[02:31] <ubuntu_user> Spec[x], some remote machine
[02:31] <luckybunny> was one of those instructions to go to software sources and hit 'additional' drivers?
[02:31] <ubuntu_user> it is a headless server and i need the remote ip address on that ubuntu machine
[02:31] <Spec[x]> ubuntu_user: you could sign onto irc and do /whois, or you could wget a website like 'whatsmyip.org'/etc
[02:32] <Spec[x]> ubuntu_user: or you could wget a different webserver and tail logs...etc
[02:32] <cagrijost> jagginess tellmarch psusi escott: http://imagebin.org/247510
[02:32] <nargit> When you do apt-get update, does it download all package info or only new packages or packages with a newer version?
[02:33] <mogaj> I am using ubuntu 12.10 ... am not able to change desktop backhround! when i try to right click and choose change background i am shown system settings not an option to change background ... what should i do to change background?
[02:33] <cagrijost> and here's one where it says it didnt see the partition:
[02:33] <cagrijost> http://imagebin.org/247511
[02:33] <Tellmarch> what program did you use to create the partition?
[02:34] <csehl> what does "Device for bootloader installation" mean in the graphical 12.10 installation? Is that the location that grub will be installed to or ubuntu will be installed to?
[02:34] <cagrijost> http://www.partitionwizard.com/landing-page.html?gclid=CPTF18euxrUCFQF8cAodnmEAxQ
[02:34] <psusi> cagrijost, that's nice, but where is the parted -l output?
[02:35] <cagrijost> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1695711/
[02:35] <luckybunny> guys I'm having some weirdness. I attempted to download something too big for my /home partition today. I stopped doing that, then deleted about 30GB of other stuff, and emptied all my rubbish bins and the trash folder.... now I suddenly have no space
[02:35] <newbrict> I have an error with chromium, when i try to open it i get "no protocol specified" could someone help me fix this?
[02:36] <psusi> cagrijost, then yea, you originally set up MBR, which isn't using the whole disk, and that program just stupidly added a useless, empty, invalid gpt
[02:36] <frostb1te> Anyone good with computers and fixing stuff here lol
[02:37] <cagrijost> psusi: so i guess its a fresh windows reinstall and then ubnutu?
[02:37] <Tellmarch> i'd format the whole disk first :p
[02:37] <cagrijost> psusi: or can i save it by deleting the disk
[02:38] <psusi> cagrijost, you can try using gdisk to zap the bogus gpt, and convert the mbr to gpt like escot said
[02:39] <escott> cagrijost, worst case if windows doesn't boot because it doesn't like to have a bios boot on a gpt disk you can just make it a hybrid
[02:40] <cfhowlett> luckybunny, clean out your cache??  apt-get clean  and maybe apt-get autoremove
[02:40] <escott> cagrijost, but don't use windows partitioning tools anymore
[02:40] <luckybunny> done already
[02:40] <cfhowlett> luckybunny, reboot ...
[02:41] <luckybunny> interestingly, disk usage analyser says I'm full, system monitor says I'm full, and nautilus says I have about 100GB free (but 0 bytes available)
[02:42] <luckybunny> "75,664 items, totalling 141.5 GB" when the partition is about 300GB like 300GB
[02:43] <escott> luckybunny, there are lots of ways applications can miscount. "df -h" gives the most reliable answer on most filesystems
[02:43] <rj1> hi...does anyone here know why my firefox can't open a phtml file?
[02:44] <luckybunny> that's even more confusing
[02:44] <escott> luckybunny, since nautilus is counting items then it is more likely to be wrong (you cannot count files you cannot access so thats one source of error)
[02:44] <luckybunny> "/dev/sdb1       294G  279G   44K 100% /home"
[02:44] <cagrijost> okay, thanks for the help guys. ill try to see if deleting the disk will work. and if that doesnt work then its gdisk :b
[02:44] <escott> luckybunny, thats a full disk (5% is reserved for root with an ext-series filesystem)
[02:45] <cagrijost> btw
[02:45] <cagrijost> what is gdisk?
[02:45] <escott> luckybunny, that leaves 95% of 294GB which is 279GB
[02:45] <escott> cagrijost, a tool for working with gpt partitioned disks. http://www.rodsbooks.com and looking at stuff online it looks like you would need a hybrid table
[02:46] <ekaj> #LXDE isn't too active - would someone be willing to help me troubleshoot the LXDE Gui? After I type the password to log in, I press enter, and the screen goes blank for a few seconds before taking me to the login prompt again. According to this guide ( http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1701 ) I should delete /etc/pam.d/lxde but that file does not exist. /etc/pam.d/lxdm, however, does. Should I delete the LXDM file, or is there something else I can
[02:46] <ekaj> do?
[02:46] <escott> cagrijost, alternately you could try a uefi boot of windows 8 on a gpt disk which brings in a different set of issues. i would go hybrid and never ever use a windows partitioning tool again in my life
[02:47] <cfhowlett> ekaj, can you login with a different DE?
[02:47] <ekaj> Nope
[02:48] <Fishscene> ekaj: Try renaming that file to something like *-backup and then try.
[02:48] <cagrijost> escott: what do you mean by going hybrid
[02:48] <Tellmarch> cagrijost, buy a SSD drive, and install everything on it. you won't need to worry about GPT :p
[02:48] <cagrijost> tellmarch: how much is a 3tb ssd?
[02:48] <Tellmarch> nah, you buy a 128 SSD just for the system, and use the 3TB for data/programs
[02:48] <Fishscene> LOL
[02:49] <Tellmarch> for 70$ you'll have a much faster computer :-)
[02:49] <cagrijost> i know ssd is better, but my ubuntu wont recognize my 3tb, so why would that make a difference
[02:49] <cagrijost> if i had an aditional 128 gb ssd or not
[02:49] <Tellmarch> the problem isn't the hard drive, it's the way it's formatted
[02:50] <ekaj> Fishscene, : I get mv: cannot move 'lxdm' to 'lxdm-backup': Read-only filesystem... I had this error before (I think) when trying to wipe passwords, and I had to mount /, but I don't remember the syntax for the command - would you happen to?
[02:50] <cagrijost> anyways
[02:50] <Tellmarch> for 3TB hard drive, you normally need GPT, but windows won't boot on GPT without needing additional things, which is trouble
[02:50] <cagrijost> thanks for the help guys
[02:50] <Tellmarch> the problem is on windows side ^^
[02:51] <joeytwiddle> is the "group windows" feature no longer available in compiz?
[02:51] <Tellmarch> cagrijost, and yeah, my answer to buy a ssd was kinda a troll, sorry about that
[02:51] <escott> cagrijost, the table would have the existing msdos partition table and a matching gpt table that has the extra partitions for linux. when you boot ubuntu it will use the gpt and ignore the bios, when you boot windows it will ignore the gpt and use the msdos
[02:51] <joeytwiddle> ekaj: have a look in /var/log/Xorg.log or any x log files in /tmp or ~
[02:52] <joeytwiddle> ekaj: oh sorry.  try mount -o remount,rw /
[02:52] <ekaj> Did the trick, thanks, going for a reboot now
[02:53] <savagecroc> what's an easy way to encrypt a file on ubuntu?
[02:53] <savagecroc> sorry a directory
[02:53] <savagecroc> preferably with checksum
[02:54] <jagginess> cagrijost, did you see the gpt howto link?
[02:55] <ekaj> Still didn't work -.-
[02:56] <dwarder> guys, am i understand right i just vi /etc/crontab then save it and it works?
[02:57] <ekaj> Uninstall I guess?
[02:57] <dr_willis> should  but you need sudo rights
[02:57] <dr_willis> !cron
[02:58] <joeytwiddle> dwarder: i always thought you should use crontab -e, to ensure he knows to re-read the file
[02:58] <raj> i need help writing a gedit script
[02:58] <psusi> j
[02:59] <dr_willis> !details
[02:59] <ekaj> joeytwiddle: Any further ideas?
[02:59] <raj> I'd like to write a script that indents highlighted text 2 spaces
[02:59] <michael___> Hi anyone here use dwm that can offer a little help
[03:00] <joeytwiddle> ekaj: identify the problem.  is the drive still read-only.  any error messages in those X log files?
[03:00] <sammuchann>  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/firefox-aurora
[03:00] <raj> whatcha got for me doc ;)
[03:00] <sammuchann> oops ment to put that in my other terminal
[03:00] <ekaj> Xorg.0.log is where I should be looking?
[03:01] <dr_willis> i use vim. dont recall gedit being scriptable or having macros
[03:01] <dr_willis> geany might.
[03:01] <raj> it does
[03:01] <raj> "external scripts"
[03:01] <ekaj> Ohh lxdm.log...
[03:02] <ekaj> I mean, I don't see anything that says "error"... main;y Message" user 0 session .... cmd USER_LIST, Message: quit code 0, message: exit cb. That's about the extent of the los
[03:02] <ekaj> and free session
[03:04] <Jacob_> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 12.04.2 on my desktop
[03:05] <Jacob_> I already have Windows 7 and a partition ready for Ubuntu
[03:05] <raj> is it worth updating gedit to 3?
[03:05] <Jacob_> but after installing Ubuntu on the blank partition it won't boot
[03:05] <sammuchann> use pluma its better imo
[03:05] <Sir_Leto> Will steam work with the default open source amd drivers in 12.10?
[03:05] <Sir_Leto> My card is now considered legacy
[03:06] <Sir_Leto> (radeon HD 4670 HD)
[03:06] <Jacob_> It gives me an error message that says "Unable to find a medium containing a live file system"
[03:06] <joeytwiddle> i can only have 1 wallpaper for all 12 desktops?  i don't get why Ubuntu made Compiz worse :-p
[03:06] <sammuchann> Are you installing ubuntu just to get tux in game?
[03:07] <Jacob_> no, I want ubuntu for several reasons
[03:07] <Jacob_> I already have it on my laptop
[03:07] <Jacob_> just an older version of it
[03:07] <ubuntu_user> The command could not be located because '/sbin' is not included in the PATH environment variable.
[03:07] <ubuntu_user> how to add /sbin to PATH variable
[03:07] <savagecroc> so encrypting directories anyone?
[03:08] <dr_willis> tf2 ran on the noveau drivers here.. barely.  got my tux.
[03:08] <Tellmarch> Sir_Leto, I had to install the latest proprietary drivers, steam didn't want to run without them
[03:08] <dr_willis> ubuntu_user: its in the default path.
[03:08] <dr_willis> !path
[03:08] <sammuchann> Lol its funny going online there is a bunch of people that cant figure out how to install a linux distro and are doing it just to get tux.
[03:09] <dr_willis> and they dont know what tux is.....
[03:09] <dr_willis> its not a tuxedo suit.....  ;-)
[03:10] <Jacob_> I've installed and re-installed ubuntu 12.04.2 3 times now!
[03:10] <blackshirt> !find manpages
[03:10] <Jacob_> it still won't boot up after I installed it
[03:11] <blackshirt> !find manpages-id
[03:11] <blackshirt> !find man-pages-id
[03:12] <Bray90820>  on my dell insperon duo netbook every time i plug or unplug the charger i get a kernel panic
[03:12] <Tellmarch> Jacob_, you need more than one partition for ubuntu... do you mean you have some empty space on the hard drive (without partition)?
[03:13] <Jacob_> yes, i have plenty of empty space for it
[03:13] <Tellmarch> and you just tell the installer to use it?
[03:13] <Jacob_> and I believe ubuntu created 2 partitions when it installed
[03:13] <ubuntu_user> if i ran export PATH=/sbin
[03:14] <Jacob_> a swap partition and an ext4
[03:14] <Jacob_> am i missing a partition?
[03:14] <dr_willis> ubuntu_user:  your path  would ONLYU be that directory  then
[03:14] <ubuntu_user> will it change the path varibles for already set PATH
[03:14] <Tellmarch> Jacob_, no, it should be ok...
[03:14] <Jacob_> well, it won't boot up ubuntu when I restart
[03:14] <te> Jacob_: Only if you wanted separate /home/
[03:14] <ubuntu_user> how to add /sbin to PATH then without changing the already $PATH
[03:15] <Sir_Leto> Tellmarch: the newest drivers aren't compatible
[03:15] <dr_willis> ubuntu_user:  it will only change the path for that shell and any child/spawned shells.
[03:15] <Sir_Leto> so I have to downgrade x.org?
[03:15] <Sir_Leto> and install the old propitary drivers?
[03:15] <dr_willis> ubuntu_user:  export foo=$foo;newpaths/added;here/
[03:15] <te> Jacob_: Did you allow grub to be written to MBR of the drive that the PC boots to?
[03:15] <dr_willis> ubuntu_user:  theres examplkes of this  in the users .profile and .bashrc files
[03:16] <Jacob_> u mean the hard drive for the boot loader?
[03:16] <dr_willis> ubuntu_user:  and is covered by  most bash guides/tutorials
[03:16] <Sir_Leto> Jacob_: also check to see if the parition ubuntu is installed to has a boot flag
[03:16] <Jacob_> it's the same hard drive as the windows boot is in
[03:16] <dr_willis> are paths ; seperated or : seperated..  i forget.
[03:16] <te> Jacob_: What do you mean "it wont boot up"
[03:16] <dr_willis> echo $PATH should show how its supposed to look
[03:17] <Jacob_> at first it never gave me the option to boot ubuntu
[03:17] <dr_willis> paths are : seperated. my  mistake. ;)   not ;
[03:17] <Tellmarch> Jacob_, what did you do then?
[03:18] <te> Jacob_: Was it the normal screens that boots to MS Windows?
[03:18] <dr_willis> $PATH=$PATH:/new/dir/to/add:/another/dir/to/add
[03:18] <Bon-chan> lmms users here?
[03:18] <Jacob_> yes, the screen that just normally boots to windows
[03:18] <Jacob_> never gave me the option to boot ubuntu
[03:19] <Jacob_> do i need to change the mount point of any of my partitions?
[03:19] <Tellmarch> when do you see the error message that you said then ? "Unable to find a medium containing a live file system"
[03:19] <Jacob_> when i try booting ubuntu
[03:19] <te> Jacob_: You apparently failed to tell grub to write to the MBR of the main drive.
[03:19] <Tellmarch> how are you trying to boot it?
[03:20] <Jacob_> what I did after it wouldn't give me the option of booting ubuntu normally is that i clicked on the iso image for ubuntu in windows and had it put that boot option for installing cd
[03:20] <Tellmarch> uh
[03:21] <Bray90820> on my dell insperon duo netbook every time i plug or unplug the charger i get a kernel panic
[03:21] <dr_willis> Bray90820:  you still got apci disabled?
[03:21] <te> Jacob_: Not sure I understand that last statement.
[03:21] <Bray90820> no
[03:22] <te> Jacob_: See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[03:22] <Bray90820> i dont really think disabling ACPI is the way to go
[03:22] <Tellmarch> Jacob_, you could try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#Using_the_Ubuntu_CD_.28Recommended.29
[03:23] <Patman> When I am copying files to or from the server the downloads start out at 100MB per sec…
[03:23] <Patman> When the file (no matter how large) hits the half-way point the process slows down to 12.8 MB
[03:23] <Patman> win7 to samba on Ubuntu 12.04
[03:24] <eN_Joy> 'top' shows 1 stopped process, how do i find that process? thanks
[03:24] <Bray90820> dr_willis were you the one i was talking to about 16 hours ago
[03:24] <te> Jacob_: Is it a UEFI system?
[03:25] <Jacob_> what does the error message "Unable to find a medium containing a live file system" mean?
[03:26] <Jacob_> not UEFI, just regular BIOS
[03:26] <dr_willis> Bray90820:  i just rember you having all sort  sof issues on a convertable netbook.  ;)
[03:26] <Tellmarch> Jacob_, i don't understand *when* are you seeing this message
[03:27] <Tellmarch> if you have no option to boot ubuntu
[03:27] <Bray90820> so you didn't tell me to try a boot flag
[03:27] <dr_willis> Bray90820:  nope. I  rarely mess with apci any  more.
[03:27] <Jacob_> i see that message when I try to boot up ubuntu
[03:27] <Jacob_> before ubuntu finishes loading
[03:27] <Tellmarch> so you have a grub menu at boot?
[03:28] <Bray90820> alright
[03:28] <Tellmarch> Jacob_, when you power on your computer, you have the grub menu, asking you to choose between ubuntu and windows?
[03:28] <Jacob_> yes, i do have the grub menu now
[03:28] <Jacob_> but after selecting ubuntu it gives me that error message
[03:29] <Tellmarch> well it's not doing its job properly anyway... so the links we gave you to repair it should still be valid i guess
[03:29] <Tellmarch> did you try?
[03:29] <dr_willis> containgig a live filesystem.. sounds like a message from a Live-usb setup
[03:29] <Jacob_> try boot repair? not yet, i'm about to do that before re-installing ubuntu again
[03:29] <dr_willis> Jacob_:  how exactly are you  installing? booting a cd/live usb?
[03:29] <lvleph> So all of a sudden I cannot connect to my website hosted on my Ubuntu machine. I can't even get there through 127.0.0.1 Not sure what is going on.
[03:29] <te> Jacob_: What type of PC is it?  (Processor, RAM, form-factor...)
[03:30] <Jacob_> i boot cd/dvd
[03:30] <lvleph> sudo service apache2 restart didn't help
[03:30] <te> Jacob_: The CD boot up and runs ok?
[03:30] <lvleph> said ok but still can't connect
[03:30] <Jacob_> intel core i7 3.07GHz, 16GB RAM, nVidia Geforce GTX 560 Ti 2GB
[03:30] <Jacob_> yes, cd boots fine
[03:31] <dr_willis> Jacob_:  id try out boot-repair - it sounds like yoru  grub settings are goofed somehow
[03:31] <Jacob_> ok
[03:31] <Jacob_> thanks
[03:31] <Jacob_> i'll let u know if that works after i try it out
[03:31] <Bray90820> 16gb that's a LOT of ram
[03:31] <Jacob_> future proof =D
[03:32] <Bray90820> like 30 years lol
[03:33] <Bray90820> i have had a computer since like 2003 and it has 2gb ram works perfectly fine
[03:33] <te> Jacob_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[03:33] <Tellmarch> Jacob_, some people have had this message because of a bug on a asus motherboard it seems... if the boot repair doesn't work, maybe that's something to consider?
[03:34] <traptor> the computer I'm currently on is a p4 with 1Gb ram and runs just fine. That's whats great about linux.
[03:34] <Jacob_> yes, i think my motherboard is most likely asus
[03:34] <danielboston26> i need help
[03:35] <Jacob_> can't exactly remember, since i built it about a year ago
[03:35] <danielboston26> ive installed updates for ubuntu 12.10 rebooted now the desktop is gone when it reboots its just a black screen
[03:35] <Jacob_> I like high end specs, cuz I play high end games
[03:35] <danielboston26> the sidebar is there but if i click anything when i think the program launches i don't see anything
[03:35] <Tellmarch> Jacob_, though they have the issue when booting on the live CD... it's strange that you can do that and get the message when booting the hard drive instead...
[03:35] <danielboston26> ive reinstalled xserver and that didn't seem to fix it
[03:36] <danielboston26> is there a bug with a update to xserver?
[03:37] <danielboston26> can someone help?
[03:37] <te> Tellmarch: I think that somehow during Jacob_'s install, grub detected the wrong partition for the root filesystem.
[03:37] <dr_willis> hmm.. my somewhat old system now.. seems to play  most every  game out fine.. sort of hard to  justify a 1500$+ pc for games these days
[03:39] <danielboston26> does anyone know the issue?
[03:39] <Tellmarch> dr_willis, i have a i7 processor with GTX 560 too, 8GB ram and 2TB hard drive, it cost me 800... and it *is* nice to have a good processor etc. when running apps :-)
[03:39] <danielboston26> is there a bug with a update that is causing thsi?
[03:40] <te> Jacob_: Try taking the CD out and then boot.
[03:40] <Jacob_> i've already done that before several times
[03:40] <Jacob_> right now it's installing the boot repair
[03:40] <traptor> danielboston26: did you originally have to install proprietary driver. If so It may need redone.
[03:40] <danielboston26> traptor: no
[03:40] <dr_willis> Tellmarch:  about the same as my 1.5+ yr old system.. only  got a lower end video card. GTS 320 i think. its a bottom end nvidia  card these days. but i   would have to upgrade my PSU if i got a bigger card.. or find a new card that dosent use a lot of powar
[03:40] <te> Jacob_: Ok.  Good.
[03:40] <danielboston26> traptor: im installing ubuntu in a vm
[03:41] <traptor> Ya VM's I know NOTHING about. All my pc's are linux (crunchbang) sorry.
[03:41] <danielboston26> traptor: its weird how i see the sidebar and menu bar but no other gui item
[03:41] <dr_willis> danielboston26:  in a vm, you may wan tto use Lubuntu for your desktop. Unity may  to graphics intenssive
[03:41] <Tellmarch> Jacob_, while you're here, could you copy the output of "cat /proc/partitions" to a online paste?
[03:42] <danielboston26> dr_willis: how do i switch?
[03:42] <dr_willis> danielboston26:  sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop and select lubuntu  at the login screen
[03:42] <Jacob_> from the terminal?
[03:42] <Tellmarch> yes
[03:42] <Tellmarch> just to check later in grub if it doesn't use the right one...
[03:42] <danielboston26> dr_willis: but when i first installed ubuntu it worked
[03:43] <danielboston26> only broke when i rebooted after updates
[03:43] <Jacob_> u mean copy and paste it to here?
[03:43] <Jacob_> or somewhere else?
[03:43] <Tellmarch> to http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[03:43] <dr_willis> danielboston26:  lubuntu  woll be quicker in  a vm.   You  using vbox or vmware  or what?
[03:43] <Jacob_> ok
[03:44] <danielboston26> dr_willis: parallels
[03:44] <ubuntu_user> how to find whether USB is attached to the my ubuntu from command line?
[03:44] <AlexandreMBM> Hello! I want to know about PolicyKit and ConsoleKit. Anyone?
[03:44] <dr_willis> could be some new quirks/bugs with that vm. ive never used it..  havent  really heard about  it in ages..
[03:44] <AlexandreMBM> ubuntu_user, lsusb
[03:44] <dr_willis> i  tend  to use vbox
[03:45] <te> Jacob_: And then, show us the URL
[03:45] <danielboston26> dr_willis: idk but as i said it worked fine till i applied updates but if there was a bug in a update everyone should be having problems
[03:46] <danielboston26> maybe its a update and w/e driver parallels is using
[03:46] <dr_willis> danielboston26:  unless it only affects parrels.
[03:46] <danielboston26> thats causing it
[03:46] <Jacob_> paste.ubuntu.com/1696215/
[03:46] <danielboston26> dr_willis: ya thats what im saying
[03:46] <dr_willis> i rarely  see people in here using Parrells..
[03:46] <danielboston26> if this doesn't work ill try virtualbox
[03:46] <dr_willis> i cant even recall the last time  i saw it mentioned  in here..  or anyuwhere else actually
[03:47] <danielboston26> dr_willis: its the big vm on the mac
[03:47] <Tellmarch> Jacob_, oh you have 3 disks?
[03:47] <danielboston26> dr_willis: also they have spoty linux support in the past
[03:47] <Jacob_> yep
[03:47] <Tellmarch> do you know on which one did you install linux?
[03:48] <danielboston26> dr_willis: i would assume not a lot of mac users wanting to run linux
[03:48] <dr_willis> i see people wanting to  install linux to their macs all the time in here.
[03:48] <danielboston26> dr_willis: oh cool
[03:49] <histo> !mac | danielboston26
[03:49] <RiXtEr> Anyone have an ETA on the Ubuntu Phone OS ?
[03:49] <DJA> teste
[03:49] <danielboston26> dr_willis: i have a newer mac that ubuntu was having issues supporting
[03:49] <histo> !phone | RiXtEr
[03:49] <dr_willis> !phone | RiXtEr
[03:49] <RiXtEr> Thanks guys!
[03:49] <danielboston26> RiXtEr: it was announced today
[03:49] <Jacob_> how long does it normally take for boot repair to install?
[03:50] <danielboston26> RiXtEr: you might check xda to see if anyone is hacking around with it
[03:50] <Jacob_> it's taking an eternity right now
[03:50] <dr_willis> I just dont see the point in having a mac. ;)   but i dont want to sound mean. ;P
[03:50] <dr_willis> the boot repair package is fairly  small. shouldent take more then a few min.
[03:50] <Tellmarch> Jacob_, I've never seen it take a long time...
[03:50] <dr_willis> i wish  they would include it by default on the live dvds
[03:51] <danielboston26> huh still not working.it must be some parallels bug
[03:51] <danielboston26> nothing new
[03:52] <Jacob_> well, for some reason boot repair won't install
[03:52] <Jacob_> i've followed the instructions on that webpage
[03:52] <dr_willis> there is a custome boot-repair iso you  can download and try
[03:52] <Tellmarch> Jacob_, you clicked on "recommended repair", and it didn't work?
[03:53] <isaias__> testing
[03:53] <dr_willis> isaias__:  10-4 over and out.
[03:53] <isaias__> anyone get this?
[03:54] <Jacob_> apparently boot repair didn't even install
[03:54] <Jacob_> i tried twice
[03:54] <dr_willis> Jacob_:   via the  terminal?
[03:54] <dr_willis> any errormessages? could  be the ppa is down or somthing
[03:55] <Jacob_> yep
[03:55] <histo> Jacob_: kind of hard for people to help if you don't give details or tell us the errors
[03:55] <histo> !details | Jacob_
[03:56] <Jacob_> i can copy and paste the messages on the terminal
[03:56] <Jacob_> one second
[03:56] <packetfrog> !paste Jacob_
[03:56] <packetfrog> oops
[03:56] <packetfrog> !help
[03:57] <Jacob_> paste.ubuntu.com/1696300
[03:59] <cexpert1> All: Anyone know a good resource for PHPMailer?
[03:59] <Tellmarch> Jacob_, you have a program installing packages running apparently
[03:59] <Tellmarch> maybe the main installer?
[03:59] <histo> Jacob_: lsof /var/cache/apt/archives
[04:00] <yazrisal> this morning my network working as usual, but after connecting to Wifi and failed, I can't connect to my wired network anymore, it keeps like searching and identifying something but still always failed. I'm on Ubuntu 12 LTS anyone can help me?
[04:00] <dr_willis> yazrisal:  so both wired and wireless are failing?
[04:01] <yazrisal> no just wired, i do not use the wifi anymore now
[04:01] <cexpert1> yazrisal: Which chipset?  Some Intel chipsets you have to disable the "N" mode.
[04:01] <yazrisal> how to detect it?
[04:02] <Jacob_> lsof: WARNING: can't stat() tmpfs file system /cow
[04:02] <cexpert1> yazrisal: "lshw"
[04:02] <dr_willis> yazrisal:  so you are using wired networking then. Not wireless..  does ifconfig show you an eth0?
[04:02] <yazrisal> im using Toshiba Satellite L645 which using Intel Core i3 Processor
[04:02] <Jacob_> Output information may be incomplete.
[04:02] <yazrisal> how to execute command lshw here in the XChat windows?
[04:02] <yazrisal> i mean to get the output
[04:03] <cfhowlett> !paste|yazrisal
[04:03] <dr_willis> yazrisal:  paste the output to a pastebin site not here
[04:03] <histo> yazrisal: don't do it here.
[04:03] <yazrisal> yes my eth0 is detected
[04:03] <yazrisal> alright wait
[04:03] <dr_willis> yazrisal:  does it  have an ip address? if so what address?
[04:03] <yazrisal> nope, i set it to automatic
[04:03] <yazrisal> so i don't know
[04:04] <histo> Jacob_: Some other application is trying to install software at the same time or is open. Like software center, update manager, etc...  CLose all those then install boot repair packages
[04:04] <cexpert1> yazrisal: I have Acer Aspire with Intel Chipset.  We had to install KDE as Gnome does not support the chipset and had to disable "N" mode for the wireless to work.  Working good and solid now for 6 months.  Talking via that right now!
[04:04] <dr_willis> ifconfig should show its ip  address.. if it has one
[04:04] <dr_willis> cexpert1:  hes using the wired networking. ;)
[04:04] <Jacob_> neither the software center or update manager r open
[04:04] <dr_willis> and i dont see how what yousaid is possible cexpert1 .. its the kernel/drivers  that support the chipset.. not  KDE/Gnome.
[04:04] <yazrisal> how to disable that "N" mode?
[04:05] <dr_willis> yazrisal:  you  are using a normal WIRED network cable correct? Not wireless?
[04:05] <berserker703> hello
[04:05] <Jacob_> i'm just going to restart my computer and try again
[04:05] <yazrisal> im sorry i just migrate to linux and start to feel comfort with this clean and sleek look Unity :p
[04:05] <yazrisal> so i dont know anything lol
[04:06] <yazrisal> ive restarted and still can't connect
[04:06] <dr_willis> yazrisal:  did you plug in a cable? or are you  using wireless?
[04:06] <iter>  ay ay ay
[04:06] <iter> layer 2 first
[04:07] <iter> yazrisal: do you have a green light where the cable plugs in?
[04:07] <yazrisal> i plugged in a cable
[04:07] <cexpert1> dr_willis: We found the kernal/drivers were more robust with KDE/Kubuntu, so installed that, which worked much better.  Could not even access the chipset before that, not in the native Ubuntu 12.04 livecd install.  We also had to dis-install that total bogus UNITY
[04:07] <cexpert1> BS
[04:07] <iter> do you know how to open a terminal?
[04:07] <yazrisal> yes correct im using normal office network LAN cable
[04:08] <yazrisal> yes i know :p
[04:08] <iter> ok, please open one up and type ifconfig -a
[04:08] <yazrisal> i opened it now and conduse what to do nest xD
[04:08] <dr_willis> yazrisal:  so the ifconfig command shows a eth0 device? does it show an inet addr: line with an ip address?
[04:08] <iter> also type netstat -rn
[04:08] <cexpert1> yazrisal: Sorry for the side dialog!
[04:08] <iter> paste the outputs into pastebin
[04:08] <iter> (if possible)
[04:09] <yazrisal> here is the link to the ifconfig -a output: http://pastebin.com/84ij9fhw
[04:09] <AcidRain> in xchat, how do i change my own text color locally?
[04:09] <AcidRain> its rly hard to see what i have typed
[04:10] <cexpert1> dr_willis: Side Q:  What is the URL to register for IRC?  Keep knocking out my registration, so not able to use native handle.
[04:10] <iter> yazrisal: do you have a usb ethernet device of some sort?
[04:10] <yazrisal> yes i am using it now to chat with you :3
[04:10] <dr_willis> cexpert1:  #freenode channel can helo  with that.
[04:10] <iter> ok very good
[04:10] <yazrisal> then?
[04:10] <iter> so your ethernet does not have an IP address
[04:11] <yazrisal> then what I should do?
[04:11] <iter> try dhclient eth0
[04:11] <yazrisal> ok wait
[04:12] <yazrisal> http://pastebin.com/84ij9fhw
[04:12] <yazrisal> lol, sorry
[04:12] <yazrisal> accidentally pasted, wait
[04:12] <iter> np
[04:12] <yazrisal> yazrisal@yazrisal-Satellite-L645:~$ dhclient eth0
[04:12] <yazrisal> RTNETLINK answers: Operation not permitted
[04:12] <fuzzyghost> I was in here earlier, talking to escott about my terminal snafu (sudo chmod o+rwx /*), and he helped me by telling me that I might be able to fix it by setting octal permissions to 755.
[04:12] <yazrisal> that's what i got
[04:12] <Jacob_> if the last message on the terminal is "Unpacking libsigsegv2" then it's still not done installing, right?
[04:12] <SolarisBoy> needs some sudo
[04:12] <iter> ok, 'sudo dhclient eth0'
[04:13] <iter> w/o quotes of course
[04:13] <fuzzyghost> I was just wondering how chmod o+rwx /* (no recursive option used), hoses a system.
[04:13] <yazrisal> id doesn't show anything :o
[04:14] <iter> ok, you ran that command and it completed? try ifconfig -a again please
[04:14] <yazrisal> yes it completed
[04:14] <iter> we are looking for inet addr: 192.168.42.xxx under eth0
[04:16] <yazrisal> still exactly the same output
[04:16] <berserker703> umm my linux wont start after all the updates
[04:16] <berserker703> is their anything i can do?
[04:17] <iter> for some reason you are not getting an IP address on eth0
[04:17] <iter> let's try eth1
[04:17] <iter> 'sudo dhclient eth1'
[04:17] <yazrisal> it takes very long time to execute :(
[04:18] <iter> it should get an IP pretty quickly, otherwise you ahve to wait for the timeout
[04:18] <fuzzyghost> I'm sorry if my question is noobish, just trying to assess whether I will have to reinstall when I get my laptop home.
[04:18] <iter> I assume your usb network adapter 'just worked' right
[04:18] <Edisto> does anyone else get small lag spikes where programs freeze for a few seconds on updating or using web browser?
[04:18] <histo> Edisto: no
[04:18] <yazrisal> yes my usb tethering worked flawlessly
[04:19] <histo> fuzzyghost: did you run that as sudo?
[04:19] <fuzzyghost> histo Yes, I did.
[04:19] <iter> do you know anything about the wired network you are plugging this computer into?
[04:19] <iter> are you sure dhcp works on it, for example
[04:19] <fuzzyghost> I meant to type ./* instead, but slipped.
[04:19] <fuzzyghost> It is still running now, haven't rebooted.
[04:20] <histo> fuzzyghost: every directory inside of the / would be chmod's down 1 level like / /home /etc  /bin /usr etc....
[04:20] <yazrisal> yes i know, it's a working office network which runs good on my friend's mac and another friend's windows
[04:20] <fuzzyghost> Yeah, and escott told me that default permissions were 755, so I reset them to that.
[04:20] <histo> fuzzyghost: It's going to create permission issues more than anything as you just gave the world rwx to those directories
[04:20] <histo> fuzzyghost: let me check
[04:20] <fuzzyghost> Okay.  All the Googling I did indicated the system was hosed.
[04:20] <yazrisal> is there any teamviewer for ubuntu? if yes, ill download and let you control it from there :p
[04:21] <fuzzyghost> histo Thank you.
[04:21] <histo> fuzzyghost: yeah they should be rx not rwx
[04:21] <TBotNik> yazrisal: Yes but installs via Q4Wine
[04:22] <iter> yazrisal: I could do it via ssh but that might be a bit too much work for your end
[04:22] <histo> fuzzyghost: chmod o=rx /*     with the exception of /tmp needs to be rwx
[04:22] <yazrisal> any alternative without those 'wine'?
[04:22] <TBotNik> yazrisal: Therefore you have to install Wine, Q4Wine, then Teamviewer.
[04:22] <yazrisal> or if still need wine, i have playonlinux installed on my laptop
[04:22] <Omer7a> Port forward for remote desktop. Don't need team viewer
[04:22] <iter> http://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/linux.aspx
[04:22] <iter> well I'll be darned
[04:22] <Omer7a> Ha
[04:22] <yazrisal> ok :p wait, dont go anywhere xD
[04:23] <histo> fuzzyghost: init* and vmlin* need to be rwx and root needs to be nothing basically o=
[04:23] <histo> fuzzyghost: also lost+found should be o=
[04:23] <topper4125> yazrisal: http://askubuntu.com/questions/119650/what-is-the-alternative-for-teamviewer
[04:24] <histo> fuzzyghost: if you ls -l / | pastebinit I can tell you whats wrong
[04:24] <TBotNik> All: Anyone know a good resource for PHPMailer?
[04:24] <Omer7a> As I said, rdp
[04:24] <histo> yazrisal: yes you can install teamviwer in linux
[04:25] <histo> yazrisal: there are other options availible too like xrdp and if you are running 12.10 you can even log into remote systems right from the login screen
[04:25] <subcool> can someone help me with gparted...
[04:25] <fuzzyghost> histo I followed a couple of your commands, here you go:  http://pastebin.com/dQPrLpfy
[04:25] <subcool> according to the site, it supports lvm2, but i have a error from gpartes saying its unsupported
[04:25] <TBotNik> yazrisal: TV is all I use for RDT, as works on Linux, Mac, Winduhs! so can support anything with it.
[04:26] <Jacob_> if the last message on the terminal is "Unpacking libsigsegv2" then it's still not done installing, right?
[04:26] <Jacob_> once again the boot repair is taking an eternity to install >_<
[04:26] <dr_willis> the terminal  will return to the  command prompt when its done
[04:27] <histo> fuzzyghost: chmod g+w /tmp       and  chmod g-rx /root
[04:28] <histo> fuzzyghost: fix those 2 and you'll be good.
[04:28] <kevdog> yo
[04:28] <fuzzyghost> histo Plus the vmlin and init?
[04:29] <histo> yazrisal: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/09/ubuntu-12-10-login-screen-adds-remote-desktop-access
[04:30] <histo> fuzzyghost: those look fine I was talking of initrd.img  and vmlinuz
[04:30] <fuzzyghost> Okay.
[04:30] <histo> fuzzyghost: they are the proper permisions.
[04:30] <histo> well atleast the default installed ones.
[04:30] <sazpaimon_> how do I replace ubuntu with xubuntu but make it as if ubuntu was never installed? I tried apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop^, but that left me with a "failed to load session ubuntu" message?
[04:31] <histo> sazpaimon_: did you already install xubuntu-desktop?
[04:31] <sazpaimon_> yes
[04:31] <sazpaimon_> I'm in xfce4 now
[04:31] <histo> sazpaimon_: then when did you get the session error?
[04:31] <fuzzyghost> histo Thank you.  I have one day off after I get back from vacation, and I didn't want to have to spend it reinstalling everything.  Thanks again for your help.
[04:31] <kevdog> I think you need to reconfugure your login manager --
[04:31] <sazpaimon_> after I did sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop^ and tried to restart lightdm and/or gdm
[04:31] <histo> !purexubuntu | sazpaimon_
[04:31] <dr_willis> apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop   shouldent remove much of anything at all id think
[04:32] <sazpaimon_> or after a simple startx
[04:32] <histo> sazpaimon_: not sure if xfce is using lightdm
[04:32] <histo> sazpaimon_: I mean xubuntu not xfce
[04:32] <topper4125> sazpaimon_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/6302/how-can-you-remove-unity
[04:32] <dr_willis> the system is trying to start up unity  as the  default wm because you got nothing set in .dmrc perhaps
[04:32] <sazpaimon_> well lightdm was still around after I did ubuntu-desktop^ removal
[04:33] <kevdog> ubuntu desktop is just a meta package
[04:33] <TBotNik> Repeating: All: Anyone know a good resource for PHPMailer?  I installed, had errors, fixed errors, but still not working.  Appears to be security issue as "SSL/TLS" is need by SMTP client.
[04:33] <fuzzyghost> G'Night all.
[04:33] <sazpaimon_> yeah and I thought removing ubuntu-desktop^ would remove all it's dependencies. It did, but left me with that error
[04:34]  * dr_willis wonderss about  the ^ at the end of that..
[04:34] <histo> sazpaimon_: did you autoremove after that?
[04:34] <sazpaimon_> yeah
[04:34] <luckybunny> just a quick update... I rebooted, scanned the disk and as if by magic... "/dev/sdb1       294G  180G   99G  65% /home"
[04:34] <kevdog> Ill have to look up the exact command but isn't it like package reconfigure or something?
[04:35] <histo> sazpaimon_: and did you see the psychocats tutorial
[04:35] <luckybunny> I didn't know there was as much as 99GB in it, but I knew for certain the disk wasn't full
[04:35] <Danechi> hello
[04:35] <sazpaimon_> I did, I'll try that now
[04:35] <Danechi> Im new to this and i could use some help
[04:36] <luckybunny> I have no idea why merely having a scheduled disk check worked
[04:36] <sazpaimon_> also, 2 more questions, 1. is there a way to have window previews in alt-tab in xfce that doesn't involve compiz, and 2. is there a unity-like search for xfce?
[04:36] <histo> luckybunny: du -h | less
[04:36] <histo> luckybunny: would show you where your space is being used.
[04:36] <Danechi> I know sound is a common issue, but i am not finding any output options
[04:36] <sazpaimon_> for now I solved 1 by using compiz, but like I said, I'd like to avoid that
[04:37] <histo> sazpaimon_: unity like search???  for programs or files or both?
[04:37] <Danechi> could anyone help me with that?
[04:37] <sazpaimon_> histo, both
[04:37] <histo> sazpaimon_: someone in #xubuntu may know or xfce
[04:37] <sazpaimon_> xfce4-appfinder is okay, but it's not as smart as unity's
[04:37] <histo> sazpaimon_: I'm sure there is some sort of overlay or application out there. There are so many choices in linux
[04:37] <dr_willis> some of the docks mayhave similer features also
[04:38] <histo> !sound | Danechi
[04:38] <sazpaimon_> I'll look around
[04:38] <nexus7user> i am anxiously awaiting the release of ubuntu for tablets. does anyone know when i can get my hands on an image for my nexus 7?
[04:38] <dr_willis> nexus7user:  see #ubuntu-arm and its been  out/testing for some time now ibelive
[04:39] <nexus7user> thank you dr
[04:39] <dr_willis> but its not the  same as what  was anounced i imagine..
[04:39] <dr_willis> gotta love meta-anoucenements that  basically anounce tht there will be future anouncements...
[04:39] <Danechi> what i am concerned about is when i open sound settings its giving me no options to put output sound through. I'm having trouble because im new to linux and dont realkly know where to start
[04:40] <nexus7user> an official image is announced for release for the 21st
[04:40] <kevdog> you might need alsa-manager file installed
[04:41] <kevdog> alsa-manager should allow selection of the sound card, etc
[04:41] <nexus7user> ubuntu has been ported to the nexus 7 for some time
[04:41] <subcool> is there a gui app to alter and manage LVM?
[04:41] <Aliendroid> Hi i am trying to use empathy to chat on facebook  , bu i have trouble setting up the account. In the Online Account > facebook the login screen is pop out to google-chrome, how do i fix that?
[04:41] <Danechi> i've tried that through terminal but i'm not going anywhere through it
[04:41] <kevdog> no follow
[04:42] <dr_willis> Aliendroid:  i thought  you  logged into facebook in that browser then allowed the program access
[04:42] <Danechi> i keep pulling up alsa in terminal to select the card and volume and such, but nothing is there
[04:42] <kevdog> are you using builtin sound or have an actual sound card?
[04:42] <Danechi> built in sound
[04:43] <Danechi> i plugged in some speakers hoping that would work and still nothinbg
[04:43] <Danechi> output sound isnt highlighted, and there is nothing in the "play sound through" box
[04:44] <Aliendroid> dr_willis,  the logon box suppose to show right inside the Online Accounts but everytime chrome pup up instead :<
[04:44] <kevdog> lshw -- this command is going to put out a bunch of output -- but a subsection should list your Audio device
[04:44] <dr_willis> Aliendroid:  cant say ive ever noticed..
[04:44] <Danechi> ok so type that into terminal
[04:44] <Danechi> just "Ishw"
[04:45] <kevdog> For example my audio device is using driver=snd_hda_intel
[04:45] <kevdog> lshw
[04:45] <kevdog> as in list hardware
[04:46] <Danechi> ok im looking
[04:46] <Danechi> its asking me to run something as a super-user
[04:46] <Danechi> but i still dont see anything that looks like audio...
[04:46] <kevdog> doesn't matter -- just keep looking
[04:46] <histo> Danechi: can you pastebin the output of aplay -l
[04:46] <Danechi> im worried i dont know what to look for
[04:47] <histo> Danechi: and lspci
[04:47] <Danechi> what does that mean...
[04:47] <kevdog> Mine is listed *multimedia descripton: Audio device
[04:47] <histo> Danechi: what does what? mean pastebin
[04:47] <histo> !paste | Danechi
[04:48] <kevdog> lspci will also work (if its a pci device)
[04:48] <Oweoqi> Can I use the ctrl + Fn keys  as shortcuts in Xubuntu?
[04:48] <histo> Danechi: Or the easy way is sudo apt-get install pastebinit  then run lspci | pastebinit && aplay -l | pastebinit    then give us the links
[04:48] <Danechi> i am so confused right now im somewhat lost... treat me like a kid here. This is all new to me
[04:48] <histo> Oweoqi: you can use whatever you want I'm sure.
[04:48] <histo> Danechi: Okay open a termainal ctrl+alt+t
[04:48] <Oweoqi> Odd, I had trouble doing it
[04:48] <histo> Danechi: then sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[04:48] <Danechi> ok ok i see audio device
[04:49] <Danechi> ok
[04:49] <histo> Danechi: then lspci | pastebinit
[04:49] <kevdog> Never knew about the pastebinit package -- cool
[04:49] <Danechi> ok one sec
[04:49] <histo> Danechi: then aplay -l | pastebinit
[04:49] <Danechi> wait wait im catching up
[04:49] <histo> copy and paste the links that application gives you into here so we can take a look.
[04:49] <Oweoqi> I'll try again
[04:49] <histo> kevdog: very usefull package for here.
[04:50] <kevdog> Dont spend a hack of a lot of time here -- but yes I can see why its useful
[04:50] <Danechi> it says it setting it up
[04:50] <Danechi> now what
[04:50] <kevdog> paste the link
[04:51] <Danechi> from what?
[04:51] <Danechi> god i feel dumb...
[04:51] <DJA> teste
[04:51] <kevdog> run the command in the terminal and then it spits out a http address
[04:51] <kevdog> paste the http address here
[04:52] <Danechi> it didnt give me an address
[04:52] <histo> Danechi: lspci | pastebinit     <copy and paste that into terminal it should output a hyperlink for you to copy and paste here
[04:52] <Danechi> it just says setting up and back to the command line
[04:52] <histo> Danechi: aplay -l | pastebinit   < this one too
[04:52] <Oweoqi> Really weird, when I try to set a keyboard shortcut in Xubuntu involving a Function keys it ignores the fact I pressed a function key. ANyone else know about this?
[04:52] <synergy> has anyone successfully got a bluetooth input device working in the latest ubuntu after it pairs? the device does nothing, nothing is in logs that shows it erroring, and I removed all the ubuntu bt shit in favor of just using bluez-utils (what I use on my arch linux, slackware, and debian boxes with the remote), and it still pairs but no luck getting it to do anything while connected. The remote has a status led that shows it sending commands anytime I use it
[04:53] <synergy> usually I would never use ubuntu, but unfortunately I need to on a device I have
[04:53] <Danechi> ok ok
[04:54] <kevdog> @synergy: gave up on the using bluez on arch for me -- very buggy -- it would pair but most times file manager couldn't access files -- once in a while it would work
[04:54] <Danechi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1696719
[04:55] <Danechi> is that right
[04:55] <histo> Danechi: okay and the aplay -l | pastebinit    please
[04:55] <Danechi> ok
[04:56] <kevdog> yes -- amd device -- I'm sensing there are going to be problems here -- do the same with lshw | pastebinit
[04:56] <Danechi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1696735
[04:56] <Danechi> ithink thats right
[04:58] <atrius> so.. if i'm looking around for the "best" wireless network manager thing.. what would you guys suggest?
[04:58] <Danechi> ok heres the lshw one
[04:58] <Danechi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1696754
[04:58] <Danechi> tell me what im looking at here... cause this is greek to me
[04:59] <histo> Danechi: and you have no sound output whatsoever?
[04:59] <Danechi> none, there's nothing in the box, it wont let me turn it up or down
[04:59] <Danechi> output volume isnt activated it looks like
[04:59] <synergy> kevdog: well, I've no issues on any of my other systems with this. Just haven't had any luck in ubuntu with this. I even compiled the same xorg I build on my other boxes, and ran that with no changes
[05:00] <synergy> I removed the ubuntu bt shit since the gui kept getting in the way, and it wasn't working anyway (would pair, but no keyboard or trackpad functionality)
[05:00] <histo> Danechi: what make and model pc is this?
[05:00] <kevdog> @synergy -- can't help you -- annoying for sure
[05:01] <Danechi> its an hp um.... let me look
[05:01] <synergy> yep, agreed. It's a single emmc system that I write images to with dd, so to get arch on it is a bigger pain than most other systems, or predone ubuntu images
[05:01] <Danechi> hp compaq 7700?
[05:01] <Danechi> dc7700
[05:02] <histo> Danechi: what version of ubuntu?
[05:02] <Danechi> does that help?
[05:02] <Danechi> the latest i just downloaded it and put it on today
[05:02] <histo> Danechi: hwinfo --sound | pastebinit
[05:02] <kevdog> alsamixer didn't do anything??
[05:03] <kevdog> @synergy -- never had emmc system --
[05:03] <Danechi> it says it doesnt know that command
[05:03] <Danechi> and yes alsa mixer didnt even come up with an option to do anything
[05:03] <histo> Danechi: sudo apt-get install hwinfo
[05:04] <histo> Danechi: sounds like a module for your sound card didn't load for somereason
[05:04] <Danechi> ok
[05:04] <kevdog> @histo -- lshw shows the module is loaded
[05:05] <Danechi> im trying to type that command but it says empty document
[05:05] <histo> kevdog: I didn't see the lshw link
[05:06] <histo> Danechi: i HAVE TO go perhaps someone else can help. I'll be back later
[05:06] <histo> !sound | Danechi
[05:06] <Danechi> ok...
[05:06] <Danechi> now what...
[05:07] <kevdog> try hwinfo | pastebinit
[05:07] <synergy> kevdog: yeah, I need to make an image with a boot partition, system, home, etc, that will dd to the chip and be ready to boot. Makes real linux os a bit more difficult to get on. And all I want to use it for is xbmc, lol. would think ubuntu could at least do something simple with xbmc and a basic bluetooth remote that even works on every android device and linux device I've tried it on
[05:08] <Danechi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1696822
[05:08] <Jacob_> it's been an hour since i started to install boot repair and it still hasn't finished, this can't be right!
[05:09] <Jacob_> there has to be something wrong w/ it
[05:10] <Danechi> anything?
[05:11] <Jacob_> nothing
[05:11] <ubuntu_user> hi i want to transfer a log file to from command-line to a public website where i can download it again. how do i do it?
[05:12] <Danechi> kevdog- doesthat help at all
[05:12] <Aliendroid> is there a way to set a window to show on multiple workspace but not all , 12.10.
[05:13] <coldpizza72i> What is the best way to stream movies to my mac osx laptop from my ubuntu machine
[05:13] <dr_willis> ubuntu_user:  its going to depend on how the server supports uploads. or you could stick it on pastebin
[05:13] <kevdog> hey I had to look through that file -- sorry --- too big of file
[05:13] <Danechi> sorry what do i do now
[05:13] <kevdog> Yes your sound device is loaded.
[05:13] <dr_willis> coldpizza72i:  dlna/upnp servers can stream to many  differnt os/devices/clients
[05:13] <Danechi> :[ so what does that mean if its not there as an option
[05:14] <dr_willis> coldpizza72i:  or setup  a samba or nfs share.. but  thats not really  'streaming'
[05:14] <kevdog> if you type alsamixer at command line and then hit F6 -- what does it give you
[05:14] <Danechi> ok let me see
[05:14] <coldpizza72i> dr_willis: are these methods good for very high quality videos
[05:14] <histo> coldpizza72i: dlna or use some other media server
[05:14] <dr_willis> coldpizza72i:  they should work fine for hd video.. your network connection will be the bottleneck
[05:14] <Danechi> - default
[05:14] <Danechi> 0 hd audio generic
[05:15] <kevdog> streaming movies is usually better with compressed video
[05:15] <Danechi> and enter device name
[05:15] <dr_willis> !info ushare
[05:15] <histo> coldpizza72i: if you instlaled a media server like mediatomb or something then it's more of an issue on the client side (the mac) on whether it supports dlna and streaming protocols like that.
[05:15] <coldpizza72i> luckily my ubuntu machine has about 15MB/s upload
[05:15] <dr_willis> ushare, xbmc, plex, mediatomb, and perhaps a dozen others  i  cent rember. ;)
[05:16] <kevdog> so there is a - default 0 hda audio generic and 1 <something else?>
[05:16] <coldpizza72i> do they buffer as nessesary?
[05:16] <dr_willis> xbmc can access dlna servers  should be avail on osx
[05:16] <coldpizza72i> cool
[05:16] <dr_willis> xbmc can even sharre to  other xbmc  clients. ifyou set up xbmc on both machines.
[05:17] <kevdog> ?
[05:17] <Danechi> it gives me three options there but when i press enter it does nothing
[05:17] <Danechi> the
[05:17] <Danechi> - default
[05:17] <Danechi> 0 hd-audio generic
[05:17] <Danechi> enter device name
[05:17] <FloodBot1> Danechi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:17] <dr_willis> plex can share to other machines over the internet. ;)
[05:17] <dr_willis> well stream..
[05:17] <Danechi> what does he mean by flood...?
[05:17] <kevdog> and if you push Esc to get back to the main screen -- the master volume is set at 100?
[05:18] <dr_willis> dont send a lot of text to the channel Danechi   use a pastebin site
[05:18] <juicyjones> I'm just curious if we have an IRC channel just for the Touch Preview coming out tomorrow?
[05:18] <Danechi> its not?
[05:19] <kevdog> if you hit F5  -- what do you have
[05:19] <Danechi> i dont see a master volume
[05:19] <Danechi> F5 says all
[05:19] <kevdog> ok -- hit f5
[05:19] <kevdog> what are the names of the bars you have?
[05:19] <Danechi> i have no bars
[05:20] <kevdog> nothing called master?
[05:20] <cinvoke> i deleted tomcat6 under etc and call apt-get remove tomcat6.  now it will not reinstall. please help
 i get this error: chmod: cannot access `/etc/tomcat6/tomcat-users.xml': No such file or directory
[05:20] <Danechi> no
[05:20] <kevdog> Blank screen?  No bars?
[05:20] <holstein> Danechi: in the terminal.. aplay -l ..and pastebin the output
[05:20] <Danechi> can i send you a screen shot somehow?
[05:21] <holstein> Danechi: i use imagebin for screenshots
[05:21] <histo> !paste | Danechi
[05:22] <kevdog> If you look at screen, mine says Card: Pulseaudio Chip: Pulseaudio View: F3:Playback F4: Capture F5: All Item: Master
[05:22] <histo> Danechi: imagebin.org as the link suggests printscreen will let you take a screenshot
[05:22] <Danechi> am i in trouble?  i keep getting messages telling me to stop posting mulkti line tes\xt
[05:22] <yazrisal> iter: are you here?
[05:22] <kevdog> thats the stupid robot saying that -- ignore it
[05:22] <histo> kevdog: He doesn't have the module loaded probably. I believe he's only seeing the hdmi output and not the actual soundcard on his box but I could be wrong.
[05:22] <holstein> Danechi: no. they are directions on how to post lines
[05:22] <ubuntu-user> how to check what files  mailutils have before installing it?
[05:22] <histo> Danechi: NO I was just having the bot give you directions for imagebin.org
[05:22] <yazrisal> iter: thank you so much, my WIRED network is really woking good now :D
[05:23] <Danechi> oh ok i thought i was going to get kicked off. Ok so
[05:23] <yazrisal> *working
[05:23] <Danechi> imagebin
[05:23] <cinvoke> .
[05:23] <holstein> Danechi: please open a terminal and run "aplay -l" and put the output in pastebin
[05:23] <yazrisal> i have plugged out my usb connection :D
[05:23] <Danechi> holstein i'm on it
[05:23] <kevdog> aplay-l | pastebinit
[05:24] <kevdog> aplay -l | pastebinit
[05:24] <coldpizza72i> I dont know if this was dlna but i remember seeing a media center sotware with a really cool interface of a wavy wall of movies...if anyone knows the name could you let me know
[05:24] <Danechi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1696940
[05:24] <Danechi> that should be it
[05:24] <ubuntu-user> how to check what files  mailutils have before installing it
[05:25] <histo> coldpizza72i: plex?
[05:25] <histo> coldpizza72i: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/plexmediaserver/
[05:25] <holstein> Danechi: the hdmi is the only thing showing there.. so its the only thing that will work
[05:25] <Danechi> meaning...?
[05:25] <histo> ubuntu-user: you could use apt-file if you are looking for a specific file. Or apt-cache showpkg mailutils
[05:25] <holstein> Danechi: is that what you are tring to use? he hdmi?
[05:25] <kevdog> Something is definitely wrong with that output
[05:25] <Danechi> no not at all, just normal sound. any sound
[05:26] <histo> Yeah his sound card module isn't loaded
[05:26] <holstein> Danechi: if you are trying to use something else, it will *never* work that way
[05:26] <iter> yazrisal: hi
[05:26] <kevdog> I'm wondering if anything is listed in dmesg | more
[05:26] <Danechi> i havent even looked at the hdmi for anything yet
[05:26] <iter> yazrisal: glad to hear we got you going
[05:26] <Orokusaki> Ubuntu server ready with we admin but still learning how to configure a file serve
[05:26] <Danechi> ok so i need to use the HDMI port to get sound?
[05:26] <Orokusaki> We admin
[05:26] <amicrawler2012> hey guys  i have a qestin
[05:26] <holstein> Danechi: hdmi is the only hardware that is setup on the machine
[05:26] <amicrawler2012> i have 10.10
[05:27] <histo> Danechi: lspci | grep -i audio
[05:27] <amicrawler2012> can i use 10.04  respotires
[05:27] <amicrawler2012> i'm getting a error 404 on 10.10
[05:27] <histo> Danechi: if no other sound cards come up please check your bios and make sure on board audio isn't disabled or something silly
[05:27] <coldpizza72i> histo: instead of the movies on a single plane (like a flat peace of paper) they were displayed on a surface described as (a piece of paper that is not flat but instead has curves giving a wavy effect)
[05:27] <histo> Danechi: your hardware is supporte din ubuntu and should work out of the box. So either your soundcard is dead or disabled
[05:27] <holstein> !sound | Danechi
[05:28] <amicrawler2012> HELLO
[05:28] <histo> coldpizza72i: Idk there are so many I would search the software center
[05:28] <Danechi> ok so what should i put in terminal next
[05:28] <amicrawler2012> can any body help me plz
[05:28] <kevdog> This is hp notebook right?
[05:28] <Danechi> no desktop
[05:28] <dr_willis> with what amicrawler2012
[05:28] <kevdog> wierd -- I thought they were manufactured with intel sound
[05:29] <amicrawler2012> i have a ubunut 10.10 amd 32bit
[05:29] <Danechi> yeah thats what i thought which is why i am confused
[05:29] <holstein> Danechi: you should read that link
[05:29] <Danechi> whuch one
[05:29] <amicrawler2012> can i use 10.04 stuff instead of 10.10
[05:29] <amicrawler2012> 10.10 give me errors
[05:29] <kevdog> Long shot here :  modinfo snd_hda_intel | pastebinit
[05:29] <dr_willis> amicrawler2012:  both are going to be EOL soon.. time to upgrade
[05:29] <dr_willis> !10.04
[05:29] <amicrawler2012> i know
[05:30] <Danechi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1696990
[05:30] <amicrawler2012> so will it hurt if i add 10.04
[05:30] <Danechi> thats what you asked me to type in kevdog
[05:30] <amicrawler2012> and get rid of 10.10
[05:30] <dr_willis> you dont mixx differnet release repositories Aminzai
[05:30] <tgm4883> amicrawler2012, yes it will probably cause you issues
[05:30] <dr_willis> you want 10.04 you install 10.04
[05:31] <amicrawler2012> oh i see
[05:31] <kevdog> lsmod | pastebinit
[05:31] <amicrawler2012> so how do i fix my issue then with 10.10
[05:31] <tgm4883> amicrawler2012, what issue?
[05:31] <amicrawler2012> i get a 404
[05:31] <tgm4883> amicrawler2012, 10.10 is EOL
[05:31] <histo> !eol > amicrawler2012
[05:31] <Danechi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1697002
[05:31] <histo> amicrawler2012: It's end of life
[05:31] <tgm4883> !eol
[05:32] <tgm4883> amicrawler2012, alternatively, you could try and use http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/
[05:32] <tgm4883> but you should really upgrade
[05:32] <dr_willis> be faster to do a clean insgtall of a newer release
[05:32] <histo> tgm4883: the problem is he can't upgrade
[05:33] <coldpizza72i> histo: http://www.moovida.com/ is what i was refering too, pretty sweet UI
[05:33] <histo> tgm4883: it's too old the repos are gone.
[05:33] <tgm4883> histo, what about http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/
[05:33] <histo> tgm4883: He would have to download each CD
[05:33] <tgm4883> histo, err, http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ is the old repositories I thought
[05:33] <histo> tgm4883: untill he got to a version that was still supported then he could online update.
[05:33] <tgm4883> http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/
[05:33] <Danechi> does that help anything?
[05:33] <amicrawler2012> is there a server i can use to get what there is for this  ver of ubuntu
[05:34] <histo> tgm4883: I believe it's only the isos not mirrors
[05:34] <kevdog> sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel
[05:34] <tgm4883> histo, no, it has all the old mirrors
[05:34] <histo> kevdog: snd_hda_intel is loaded on that pastebin
[05:34] <dr_willis> thats the whole point of having old-release.xxxxxxx servers ;)
[05:34] <histo> tgm4883: ahh
[05:34]  * tgm4883 wonders if amicrawler2012 just ignores him
[05:34] <kevdog> Yes I know -- however something is messed up -- Why isn't it assoicating with the device?  where is the error message?
[05:34] <Danechi> ok loet me type that
[05:35] <MatthewL> Amicrawler2012: try searching for lamp on Ubuntu
[05:35] <dr_willis> amicrawler2012:   the old-release servers... yes.. read the !EOL info
[05:35] <amicrawler2012> so how do i add this to my list  i see i can use it
[05:35] <Danechi> nothing came up after i typed that
[05:35] <tgm4883> amicrawler2012, did you not read anything on that link for eol?
[05:35] <histo> amicrawler2012: you'd have to change your sources.list to reflect old-release.ubuntu.com according to others here.
[05:35] <dr_willis> amicrawler2012:  a clean install would be faster i imagine
[05:36] <kevdog> dmesg | pastebinit
[05:36] <Danechi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1697039
[05:36] <kevdog> Wish they had the fiesty fawn repos still up
[05:36] <histo> coldpizza72i: ahh
[05:37] <histo> kevdog: they do. aparently at old-releases
[05:37] <tgm4883> you could go back to warty if you wanted to
[05:37] <dr_willis> back in the day when you could pronounce release names...
[05:38] <histo> lol
[05:38] <histo> I think they really try to pick the most obscure animals
[05:38] <MatthewL> whois dr_willis?
[05:38] <dr_willis> some are mythical )
[05:38] <histo> whois matthewL
[05:38] <MatthewL> :)
[05:38] <dr_willis> Where in the world is Carman SanDiego
[05:39]  * histo like ubuntu rabid rabbit
[05:39] <Danechi> does that say anything
[05:39] <MatthewL> Sorry, just got an irc book today
[05:39] <coldpizza72i> plex is supported on xubuntu too right
[05:39] <histo> MatthewL: yeah you may want to try /whois username
[05:39] <dr_willis> coldpizza72i:  yes. its a xbmc spinoff
[05:40] <MatthewL> Tried it.
[05:41] <kevdog> It says input: HD-Audio Generic HDMI/DP,pcm=3 as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.0/0000:01:00.1/sound/card0/input6
[05:41] <ubuntu-user> Adobe FMS , guys having issues with installation. can you help me out?
[05:41] <Civella> Hello!
[05:41] <Danechi> what does that mean?
[05:41] <kevdog> Feisty fawn repos -- cool -- wonder if its still pulling security updates -- or that's it
[05:41] <dr_willis> ubuntu-user:  trying to insstall it via wine?
[05:41] <histo> MatthewL: ewww android client and irc book?
[05:41] <tgm4883> kevdog, thats it
[05:41] <dr_willis> kevdog:  its eol.. so no.
[05:41] <Civella> Anyone mind giving me some one-on-one help with Ubuntu? Just downloaded it and I'm running it off a USB at the moment.
[05:42] <MatthewL> Y, histo
[05:42] <dr_willis> !manual | Civella
[05:42] <kevdog> I'm kind of idea -- did you reboot just for the hell of it?
[05:42] <histo> !ask | Civella
[05:42] <Civella> I'm afraid I didn't ask to ask a question.
[05:42] <Danechi> no i got this computer for a friend and put a new hardrive in it
[05:43] <kevdog> ok -- that's not an issue
[05:43] <kevdog> You are dual booting with windows or something?
[05:44] <Danechi> no not at all
[05:44] <MatthewL> histo, %B nice work
[05:44] <MatthewL> Hmm
[05:44] <Danechi> ubuntu is all i've got on this hardrive
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> can we discuss ubuntu tablet issues here?
[05:45] <Civella> Document Viewer won't open. Sigh.
[05:45] <dr_willis> MatthewL:  irc color coded and  other escape codes are often disabled on channel;s.. they are annoying.
[05:46] <MatthewL> Ok thanks |	dr_wllis
[05:46] <kevdog> And you just ran into this problem on installation?
[05:47] <dr_willis> MatthewL:  and even the most advanced android irc clients ive seen.. are rather limited compared to ones on linux.
[05:47] <kevdog> android irc clients suck
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> kevdog: stay polite mate
[05:47] <kevdog> aye
[05:47] <dr_willis> there is a weechat client for android now that pairs with weechat runniong on linux. sort of as a bouncer type thing
[05:48] <MatthewL> ;-)
[05:48] <dr_willis> but its still in a rouhgh stage
[05:48] <dr_willis> rough
[05:48] <MatthewL> Y, I love my xchat on lubuntu
[05:48] <ubuntu-user> no dr_willi
[05:48] <Danechi> yes when i first tried to use the computer today
[05:49] <tgunr> dr_willis: did you get my post about fixing the problem I had yesterday? it should be put in the bot here
[05:49] <dr_willis> tgunr:  thers some way to submit factoids.. but i dont recall how
[05:50] <kevdog> You went into the bios and made sure the sound card was turned on?  Or lets say when you booted the live CD -- did the audio work off the live CD?
[05:50] <dr_willis> !factoids
[05:50] <dr_willis> not sure of the factoid on submitting factoids. ;)
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> i did a factoid once
[05:50] <dr_willis> tgunr:  you could post it on askubuntu.com
[05:50] <tgunr> I will repeat it FYI: Ubuntu 12.10 + Parallels 8 + Parallels Tools = FAIL
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> its a kind of request 'text' for empty triggers
[05:51] <tgunr> Awesome, should have looked for such a site!
[05:51]  * tgunr slaps his forehead
[05:51] <dr_willis> they may even have a work around for  your issue.  ;P
[05:51] <SuperLag> tgunr: I get MUCH better mileage with VMware Fusion.
[05:51] <tgunr> yeah, except i already paid for it
[05:52] <tgunr> are you running 12.10 on Fusion?
[05:52] <SuperLag> yes, as well as 13.04
[05:52] <SuperLag> the beta 13.04, that is
[05:52] <SuperLag> it's not released yet
[05:52] <tgunr> Interesting, I may have to switch as this is very painful
[05:53] <Oweoqi> If anyone here is running Xubuntu are you able to confirm this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libxfce4ui/+bug/1131044
[05:53] <tgunr> I need to get 4 VM running here for a client test
[05:53] <ax562> I had a question
[05:53] <ax562> is there any ubuntu guru's in here?
[05:53] <coldpizza72i> whats the button combination with a F key to pull up a shell
[05:53] <SuperLag> tgunr: I don't know if open-vm-tools will work with Parallels, or not... but that's what I had to do for 13.04
[05:53] <SuperLag> ax562: Nope. None. None at all.
[05:53] <ax562> lol
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> !ask | ax562
[05:54] <ax562> seriously though
[05:54] <tgunr> thanks, will check it out, starting day 3 of linux
[05:54] <ax562> OK
[05:54] <SuperLag> ax562: and besides... you just wasted time by asking if you could ask. Just do it.
[05:54] <SuperLag> tgunr: never run Linux before?
[05:54] <savagecroc> crao
[05:54] <tgunr> not for several years
[05:54] <savagecroc> crap
[05:54] <savagecroc> is this chatroom logged anywhere?
[05:54] <savagecroc> my scroll back only goes 1000 lines
[05:54] <Oweoqi> yes
[05:54] <ax562> I'm running 32 bit ubuntu 11.04 and wanted to upgrade to the latest and greatest 64bit version
[05:54] <tgunr> I'm a Macintosh guy basically
[05:54] <ax562> I believe 12.10?
[05:55] <SuperLag> tgunr: I do 'em all.
[05:55] <coldpizza72i> how can i get a shell with a function key
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> ax562: clean install to 64-bit
[05:55] <savagecroc> tgunr: i never hear people say macintosh :)
[05:55] <tgunr> be careful , u ptrading, has caused me much grief so far
[05:55] <Oweoqi> yeah 32bit is different arch
[05:55] <tgunr> It's in my auto typer
[05:55] <dr_willis> coldpizza72i:  what? alt-ctrl-t gives a terminal window.
[05:55] <ax562> but my question is I have duo boot with windows and was wondering if I could format my existing partition and install on that?  Would I have a problem?
[05:56] <savagecroc> tungr: macintosh makes me think of late 80's.. no idea why they called it that
[05:56] <dr_willis> coldpizza72i:  press and hold the super key for a list of keyboard shortcuts
[05:56] <tgunr> downloaded the server version, will be trying that next
[05:56] <kevdog> @ax562 no -- not if you are careful to screw things up:)
[05:56] <dr_willis> savagecroc:  its a kind of apple....
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> ax562: i would singleboot ubuntu
[05:56] <SuperLag> tgunr: what exactly are you trying to do?
[05:56] <savagecroc> dr_willis: ahhh
[05:56] <tgunr> savagecroc: start with serial# 1008 in 1984
[05:56] <kevdog> @ax562 -- I'm dual booted right now -- I shrunk my windows partition on this notebook
[05:57] <dr_willis> savagecroc:  where do you think they got the 'Mac' name from .
[05:57] <ax562> I have WAY TOO MUCH on windows, my DAW is on there Pro Tools 8.0.3..I can't loose that
[05:57] <tgunr> trying to get a client software to run for some testing
[05:57] <iter> tgunr: macpaint ftw
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> ax562: many strong ubuntu packages out there to replace windows apps
[05:57] <dr_willis> Deluxe Paint on My Amiga.. :) was the bestest
[05:57] <tgunr> God, loved MacPait, it was awesome at the time!
[05:57] <ax562> OK...so I could just format existing partition then?  What about my boot partition? Isn't that on the ext partition?
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> ax562: and you can always virtualbox a windows on ubuntu
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: lol amiga500 oldskool
[05:58] <tgunr> chessboard paint, just like in the cartoon!
[05:58] <kubanc> hellow. Where is trash icon in ubuntu 12.10?
[05:59] <tgunr> kubanc: rm
[05:59] <ax562> I know there is alternatives but I've spent way too much time and money.
[05:59] <dr_willis> kubanc:  you can get to the trshcak via the panel on the left side of the file manager window.
[05:59] <dr_willis> !trash
[05:59] <ax562> My real concern is that if I format I will mess up my boot manager and kill all partitions
[05:59] <kevdog> @ax562 -- you doing the install on the same hard disk?
[05:59] <ax562> yeah
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> dualbooting slows hd
[05:59] <ax562> I have a 160gb hd with 100gb windoze and the rest for swap and linux
[06:00] <kevdog> @ax562 -- go into windows and using the windows partition manager to shrink the windows partition (if you can) to leave unpartitioned space at the end of the drive
[06:00] <ax562> slows hd?  boot time?
[06:00] <dr_willis> i would have to see some benchmarks on that statement
[06:00] <iter> ax562: it doesn't slow anything at all
[06:00] <ax562> I already have ubuntu and ext partition
[06:00] <ax562> @iter I agree
[06:01] <kevdog> @ax562 -- (Dont worry about that) -- Then use gparted to make format the unpartitioned space --
[06:01] <coldpizza72i> Is it possible to install plex without using a package manager
[06:01] <cfhowlett> ... cocks a skeptical eyebrow.  slows boot?
[06:01] <ax562> I could see boot time but thats all
[06:01] <coldpizza72i> possible/easy
[06:01] <dr_willis> coldpizza72i:  go to the plex homepage and see what they got.
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> classic magnetic drives will be slower read speeds when more full
[06:01] <dr_willis> since plex runs as a service.. you insgtgall it system wide. not as a user as far as i know..
[06:02] <ax562> so where is the boot manager stored at?  it's own partition?
[06:02] <kubanc> dr_willis, i cannot find trshcak in my panel
[06:02] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  err.. that dosent make much sence
[06:02] <coldpizza72i> dr_willis: what exactly would i be looking for? source download?
[06:02] <dr_willis> kubanc:  look in the file manager windows left side panel. Not the unity panel
[06:02] <kevdog> @ax562 -- not sure what you mean ubuntu and ext partition --  You just made one big partition ext3/4?
[06:02] <dr_willis> coldpizza72i:  i just use their repositories/deb file i recall.
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> anyway its offtopic so
[06:03] <kubanc> dr_willis, ok, sorry for my laziness :)
[06:03] <coldpizza72i> can i install a deb without a package manager, dr_willis
[06:03] <kevdog> The boot manager is going to be the first xxx bytes of the drive -- I dont remember the exact amount
[06:03] <dr_willis> coldpizza72i:  why would you want to? or think you can..
[06:03] <ax562> @kevdog I have duo boot ntfs/ext4
[06:03] <ax562> so really I had two questions
[06:03] <rj1> hi...anybody here have tried installing cacti on ubuntu server 12.04
[06:03] <coldpizza72i> dr_willis: im in a rush and dont have the time i need to fix my package manger problems
[06:04] <kevdog> You could back up the first xxx  bytes to a file using the dd command.  Grub will overwrite the boot parition with its setup allowing you to choose to boot to ubuntu or windows
[06:04] <dr_willis> coldpizza72i:  look for a tar.gz i guess...
[06:04] <ax562> 1. If I format my ubuntu ext4 partition using gparted boot disk, will I be able to boot windwos still and not mess up boot manager?
[06:05] <dr_willis> ax562:  if thee grub boot files are on that partion. then grub wont work
[06:05] <iter> ax562, you can boot to windows cd and run fixboot and fixmbr to recover those, as long as you haven't actually nuked the windows partition
[06:05] <kevdog> @ax562 -- just my style but I usually have at a minimum a / parition and a swap partition.  However usually I include a /boot and /home partition as well.  The /home partition is useful if you are going to be upgrading a lot.
[06:05] <ubuntu471> does anyone know how to get chrome to launch xchat as a default program once a url channel is clicked?  i seemed to mess up the default somehow...
[06:06] <iter> it SHOULD be safe to delete and reinstall the ubuntu partition but everyone is treating this with kid gloves because Bad Things Could Happen and they would rather you not lose data
[06:06] <ax562> hmmmmm
[06:06] <dr_willis> when in doubt... BACKUP your data
[06:06] <iter> ^^^
[06:06] <ax562> sounds like a few things can go wrong
[06:06] <kevdog> @ax562 -- yes you will be able to boot windows -- I essentially nuked the windows mbr when I installed linux (although I meant to back it up -- I missed that part).  Everythign is ok
[06:07] <dr_willis> a hard drive could die at any time... and ive seen them do it
[06:07] <coldpizza72i> dr_willis: is there any viable options to stream hd without installing anything on my ubuntu machine (viable for a short term soltuion)? ...im not sure if any remote mounting would work..
[06:07] <dr_willis> coldpizza72i:  theres no default streaming services instgalled..
[06:07] <ax562> @all, i'm getting mixed answers
[06:07] <dr_willis> coldpizza72i:  samba is not instllaed by default either... or any other services that i know of.
[06:08] <dr_willis> well none that do what you need at least. ;)
[06:08] <coldpizza72i> i have an ssh server on it
[06:08] <kevdog> @ax562 -- there are no correct answers -- its just what you want to do
[06:08] <dr_willis> coldpizza72i:  sshfs is handy ;)
[06:08] <dr_willis> !info sshfs
[06:08] <ax562> OK.  How would you jedi ubuntu knights do this then
[06:08] <kevdog> sshfs is awesome -- just my opinion.  Samba sucks.  nfs is another option
[06:08] <Jacob_> do evga motherboards work well w/ ubuntu
[06:09] <ax562> Upgrade ubuntu on existing partition without harming windows partition?
[06:09] <dr_willis> given the complexity of what samba is doing. it works quite well
[06:09] <cfhowlett> ax562, I prefer the clean install method.  download iso, burn to usb, install. I have a /home partition ...
[06:09] <holstein> ax562: i dont so upgrades.. i backup my data and reinstall.. but if you dont harm the windows partition, it wont be harmed
[06:10] <holstein> dont do*
[06:10] <iter> ax562: I assume you don't have an extra hard drive right?
[06:10] <kevdog> @ax562 -- what do you want to do?  Are you using ubuntu just temporarilty or is this the long haul.  A home partition is for the long haul.  If you are just playing around, I'd just do a / and swap parition with the swap partition 3x as big as my RAM (although everyone says 2x -- I've had my swap fill up when doing this to often)
[06:10] <SerenE_SparK> How can we find class path in Ubuntu? i tried echo $CLASSPATH but there was no output
[06:10] <holstein> nothing about an upgrade will change your windows partition, but you should have backups anyway for when that drive will fail
[06:10] <coldpizza72i> dr_willis: do you think there will be any noticiable effects(like lag) from using sshfs as opposed to dlna/upnp
[06:11] <surbs> does anyone know how to trigger xchat from chrome? i seemed to have fudged the default application setting somehow...?
[06:11] <dr_willis> coldpizza72i:  no idea. iimagine your network will be the boottleneck
[06:11] <dr_willis> coldpizza72i:  all i stream is anime. ;)
[06:11] <coldpizza72i> its worth a try, thanks
[06:11] <kevdog> Grub will only overwrite the MBR at the front on the disk -- it will detect your windows parition automatically and add it to a line where you can choose the system you want to boot to
[06:11] <coldpizza72i> 15MB/s upload is nice tho :)
[06:11] <ax562> but I don't want to mess up grub so when I boot back after format not be able to boot windows and loose everything
[06:12] <dr_willis> ax562:  if you reinstsll it will reinstall grub..
[06:12] <kevdog> sshfs encrypts data -- so yes it will probably be slower -- an unencrypted tunnel is probably faster
[06:12] <holstein> ax562: the upgrade doesnt mess up grub,.. you can always reinstall grub.. and your data should be backedup
[06:12] <histo> kevdog: not it's not slower
[06:12] <dr_willis> wonder if sshfs has a -Y option
[06:12] <histo> kevdog: it also does compression I believe.
[06:12] <ax562> where is grub located? own partition?
[06:12] <coldpizza72i> i wish i had kvm/ip so i could fix my computer remotely
[06:13] <dr_willis> or some other local lan type options
[06:13] <surbs> additionally, my apologies for double post* I switched to laptop so i could troubleshoot and recognize font change.
[06:13] <holstein> !grub | ax562
[06:13] <cfhowlett> surbs, settings > preferred applications ...
[06:13] <holstein> ax562: depends on where you put it..
[06:13] <kevdog> Grub is in the /boot tree
[06:13] <histo> Someone would probably have to run speed tests but I doubt it would be slower.
[06:13] <ax562> would me being booted in ubuntu help?
[06:13] <iter> well, grub is in the mbr too (if we are talking mbr disk here)
[06:13] <ax562> maybe I can check where it's at?
[06:14] <holstein> ax562: you'll have to boot ubuntu if you want to upgrade ubuntu
[06:14] <kevdog> @ax562 -- seriously -- youre decision is really how you want to partition your unallocated space.  Installing ubuntu on top of windows -- I've done this like 5 times
[06:14] <surbs> cfhowlett, do not see that as an option.
[06:14] <iter> holstein: I think he wants to go 32bit to 64bit, right ax562 ?
[06:14] <holstein> ax562: you just upgrade.. and grub will be upgraded as well
[06:14] <ax562> I originally installed ubuntu 9.9? because I couldn't duo boot with grub/boot manager...
[06:14] <iter> if that's the case you need to do a clean install from cd
[06:15] <dr_willis> 32bit to 64bit - requires a clean install
[06:15] <holstein> ax562: 9.04 or 9.10
[06:15] <histo> ax562: I'm sorry what's the problem? I wasn't paying attention?
[06:15] <kevdog> @ax562 -- I've dual booted with windows for like the last 3 years maybe 4 -- with grub(1) and grub2
[06:15] <ax562> then I upgraded using ubuntu software center or upgrade whatever it's called to 11.10 so i think I have 9.9 boot manager
[06:15] <dr_willis> 9.x used grub also
[06:15] <cfhowlett> surbs, I don't know where, but I promise you have it ... ask in channel how set this
[06:15] <ax562> sorry 9.10
[06:16] <holstein> ax562: you can look and see, but its all grub, and grub gets upgraded with upgrades
[06:16] <dr_willis> i was thninkig when the change from grub1 to grub2 happened  it dident upgrade to grub2 by default.
[06:16] <dr_willis> but thats been ages ago
[06:16] <surbs> cfhowlett, what do you mean by "ask in channel how set this" ?
[06:16] <dr_willis> !grub2
[06:17] <kevdog> The only thing that sucks about system upgrades -- is that sometimes things get broken -- this has happened to me.  I usually just reinstall the upgraded OS.  If you have /home on the same partition as /, then /home gets overwritten during new installation
[06:17] <cfhowlett> #ubuntu how to find "Preferred Applications" settings ????
[06:17] <ax562> my problem, I believe, is I have to format ext4 partition to clean install on that, so I'm scared when I do that I will mess up grub.
[06:18] <dr_willis> ax562:  sif you do you fix grub....
[06:18] <dr_willis> its not like its rocket-surgery ;)
[06:18] <holstein> ax562: and you will have all your data backed up anyway
[06:18] <kevdog> I do all my partition using gparted -- if gparted can see your patitions -- it shouldn't mess things up
[06:18] <ax562> ok, well i guess it's a crap shoot then
[06:19] <kevdog> I doubt your MBR has been messed up
[06:19] <ax562> so where is grub stored?
[06:19] <ax562> no, everything is ok now
[06:19] <cfhowlett> ax562, even if grub wiped your boot, windows would still be there.  REpairing windows boot is easy
[06:19] <dr_willis> grub support files are on /boot/ it installs to the mbr of the hd
[06:19] <ax562> I probably have old grub, grub1
[06:19] <holstein> ax562: no. its not.. if you want to replace your linux install, you can remove it, and when you reinstall, grub will automatically installl again
[06:19] <dr_willis> grub shows a version # when it loads up
[06:19] <holstein> ax562: you can check and see what version you have
[06:19] <iter> ax562: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_GRUB#Boot_process
[06:20] <holstein> ax562: the links to the grub wiki talk about how to recover grub, if you need
[06:20] <kevdog> can you still boot windows?
[06:20] <kevdog> If you can -- mbr isn't messed up
[06:20] <ax562> thanks for the links
[06:21] <ax562> I know if something break you can fix it most of the time
[06:21] <ax562> but what I'm trying to avoid is breaking it from the start
[06:21] <ax562> ;)
[06:21] <dr_willis> if you clean install it will reinstall grub
[06:21] <iter> ax562: do you have data on the ubuntu partition you care about?
[06:22] <ax562> not really, a few android rom's, kitchen, apps nothing special
[06:22] <kevdog> You know you can just reformat you linux paritions again right?
[06:22] <ax562> that's what im going to do
[06:22] <iter> ax562: if you don't care about the data, boot from new ubuntu cd and just install as usual
[06:22] <ax562> but thats why i'm asking if I do that will it break other partition or grub
[06:22] <kevdog> dont reformat the windows partion -- you'll just F**K things up then :)
[06:22] <iter> just be careful not to delete your windows partition
[06:23] <iter> and you'll be good
[06:23] <iter> it should not break your windows nor your grub
[06:23] <ax562> I tried that when I first installed 9.10
[06:23] <kevdog> I think gparted from live cd
[06:23] <kevdog> is ok
[06:23] <histo> ax562: is the whole point of this just to upgrade?
[06:23] <ax562> ubuntu partition manager BLOWS!
[06:23] <histo> ax562: you can upgrade from 9.10 using old-releases
[06:24] <ax562> it wouldn't partition anything right
[06:24] <iter> histo: he's going 32->64bit, new install necessary
[06:24] <ax562> I was trying 11.10 at the time
[06:24] <histo> ahh
[06:24] <kevdog> Everytime I upgrade something gets screwed
[06:24] <dr_willis> 9.10 is 3+ yrs old... a lot has changed.
[06:24] <iter> ax562: no repartitioning necessary, you have already created the partitions
[06:24] <ax562> so I had to first partition using gparted, format ext4 and swap partitions
[06:24]  * dr_willis thinks he could have allrady been reinstalled by now
[06:24] <iter> lol yep
[06:24] <histo> ax562: Linux changes rapidly it's actively developed unlike windows. So something from 3 years ago on a desktop machine is rather old.
[06:25] <histo> ax562: If you had a server install you wouldn't notice many changes but a lot of the desktop apps are developing rapidly.
[06:25] <ax562> then use ubuntu install disk 9.10 (11.10 would not install grub right) to install
[06:25]  * kevdog Yes it could have been all done by now
[06:25] <cfhowlett> ... thinks a quick backup of critical data to a usb and then wipe/install a CURRENT version is adviseable ...
[06:26] <histo> ax562: Why are you trying to install 11.10?  Why not a more  recent version like 12.04 which is LTS Long Term Support    or 12.10 which is the current dev release.
[06:26] <kevdog> @cfhowlett -- agree 100%
[06:26] <cfhowlett> histo, the logic ... my head ...
[06:26] <histo> ax562: I agree backup whatever stuff you want to keep from /home/ax562  and then install a newer version. Would be easiest for you.
[06:27] <histo> people really like to create their own problems don't they.
[06:27] <ax562> OK, so you guys are saying all I have to do is boot newest distro and it will format my existing partitions?
[06:27] <ax562> histo, you are really late in this conversation
[06:27] <kevdog> Like my own problem -- not upgrading from 11.10 -- I'm scared and I've got everything configured the way I like it!!
[06:27] <cfhowlett> ax562, you can selectively choose which partitions get formatted
[06:27] <iter> ax562: just don't format your windows partition
[06:28] <kevdog> rsync is great for backups btw -- I'm a fan
[06:28] <ax562> I had HUGE problems with stock ubuntu partition manager previously and 11.10 grub2? wouldn't install at all
[06:28] <kevdog> maybe a bad burn or bad md5 checksum?
[06:29] <ax562> I had to start from 9.10 and upgrade to 11.04 after I used gparted (remembers the huge headache it caused..yuk)
[06:29] <histo> kevdog: I use rsync in a cron job on remote computers for offsite backup... Carbonite can suckit
[06:29] <Guest73774> h
[06:30] <ax562> OK, so grub1 to grub2 won't be a problem even if i'm groing from 32 to 64 bit?
[06:30] <kevdog> I'd like to do the offsite backups to an encrypted partition on the remote site using a combination of ssh/rsync and I guess a jailkit -- I haven't cracked how to set up this nut yet
[06:30] <dr_willis> you will be REINSTALLING grub it willbe grub2
[06:30] <ax562> and thank you for all the help guys!
[06:30] <iter> ax562: you can run grub-install -v to show grub version
[06:30] <kevdog> @ax562 -- Good luck --
[06:31] <ax562> @dr_will so no problem from grub32bit to grub2 64bit?
[06:31] <kevdog> @ax562 -- glad its not me !!! Ok that was a joke
[06:31] <histo> ax562: no it won't be a problem
[06:31] <dr_willis> ax562:  that fact it has grub1 on it now  means nothing... you will be instgalling grub2 over whatever is there.
[06:31] <ax562> ok gotcha
[06:31] <histo> kevdog: it's not really that hard.
[06:31] <ax562> ok now second question lmfao!
[06:32] <histo> kevdog: just setup each component individually and test then cron them all
[06:32] <ax562> 2. When installing a new 64 bit distro, will not having an ethernet connection or any internet connection be a problem?
[06:32] <ax562> during install
[06:33] <cfhowlett> ax562, probably not but possibly.  fully dependent on the hardware.
[06:33] <dr_willis> run a wire ;) it can then auto-get all updates as it installs
[06:33] <dr_willis> and extra thangs
[06:33] <kevdog> I don't know how to set up the linux jail because I think I need something more than the openssh jail right??  and not sure what encryption method I should use on the remote end.  By dream is multiple users with encrypted home directed so think of some file based encryption scheme like encyfs
[06:33] <ax562> I have a wifi connection only available but not sure if install disk will pick that up...so not sure if it will cause problems
[06:33] <dr_willis> ax562:  try the live cd and see if it sees the network.,...
[06:34] <dr_willis> 12.10 is a dvd by the way. ;) no longer a cd
[06:34] <ax562> so no internet connection = no ubuntu install?
[06:34] <cfhowlett> ax562, if not, if you have a broadcom wifi, you can install the drivers from the iso.  I did so yesterday ... 5 minutes with the terminal.
[06:34] <kevdog> Yes -- wireless might work -- I've had it work -- but I've also had it not work -- 64 bit libs are even a bit dicier -- not as well supported
[06:34] <dr_willis> ax562:  no one said that..
[06:35] <dr_willis> ax562:  that instalelr can install updates as it installs and save time
[06:35] <ax562> it was a question
[06:35] <kevdog> really a DVD?? noi kidding
[06:35] <dr_willis> 12.10 has gon beyond the cd size limit..
[06:35] <ax562> F@CK do i even have dvd's anymnore smh
[06:36] <kevdog> no you can install without any internet -- however if you have any hardware issues -- you're possibly hosed
[06:36] <dr_willis> most people use usb flash anyway
[06:36] <ax562> this is why most are not on ubuntu
[06:36] <cfhowlett> ax562, you don't NEED a dvd, just use a USB
[06:36] <dr_willis> ax562:  lets see.. dvds are how common these daya?
[06:36] <kevdog> I've rolled one of my machines to arch -- don't have to worry about upgrading then
[06:36] <dr_willis> and USB flash drives are like $5 for a 2gb one...
[06:36] <ax562> don't get me wrong I LOVE LINUX AND UBUNTU, android sparked the love
[06:37] <iter> kevdog: you don't worry about upgrading arch!?!
[06:37] <kevdog> rolling release
[06:37] <iter> they take pride in breaking your ish with upgrades
[06:37] <dr_willis> ;)
[06:37] <kevdog> probably will happen no doubt
[06:37] <ax562> but the headaches just to get this thing running...ay ya yai
[06:37] <kevdog> especially with the freakin AUR
[06:38] <dr_willis> ax562:  put iso on usb with the rigth tool.. boot.. instgall... 20 min later done...
[06:38] <kevdog> @ax562 -- see you just have to do it a few times and then after banging your head and learning -- its no big deal then
[06:38] <MatthewL> Why is #Ubuntu the most popular channel on free node?
[06:38] <kevdog> it is?? news to me
[06:38] <iter> because #gentoo is for ricers?
[06:38] <iter> :p
[06:38] <ax562> @dr you know the size?  I only have 1 gb flash drive and maybe a dvd disk somewhere in the attic
[06:38] <dr_willis> Because we dont charge for Awsome..
[06:39] <dr_willis> ax562:  no  idea. i dont even carry anything less then a 8gb usb any moar
[06:39] <cfhowlett> they just how we roll
[06:39] <MatthewL> Agreed, Dr_willis
[06:39] <dr_willis> any 1gb usb would be so old.. and slow comapred to newer ones i imagine...
[06:40] <kevdog> 1gb flash -- no dvd -- you live in the hood?
[06:40] <dr_willis> and ive found older usbs more prone to booting issues
[06:40] <ax562> wow, so all in all, this is still a roll of the dice =(
[06:40] <dr_willis> lubuntu 12.10 Might fit on a cd.. i havent looked.
[06:40] <kevdog> way to think optimistically -- and no everything should work
[06:40] <dr_willis> or just use 12.04
[06:41] <kevdog> How about just installing the server edition and then upgrading to ubuntu-desktop -- would that would
[06:41] <cfhowlett> ax562, I'm guessing you have an "older" machine?  xubuntu or lubuntu 12.04 might be best for you ..
[06:41] <kevdog> server edition just a cd still?
[06:41] <ax562> LOL I do live in the hood, but I have a phone with 32gb sd card with ubuntu 10.10 and swap space so don't need flash drive
[06:41] <cfhowlett> !mini
[06:41] <dr_willis> ax562:  how old is your system> what cpu does it have?
[06:41] <SoulShadow> has anyone gotten ubuntu installed on a clover trail tablet?
[06:41] <tgunr> just downloaded the server iso, it is 678MB would barely fit on a CD
[06:41] <cfhowlett> !tablet|SoulShadow,
[06:41] <ax562> my last 16gb was mistreated and broken by my ex friend
[06:41]  * SoulShadow sighs
[06:41] <SoulShadow> cfhowlett: not the same tablet sorry
[06:42] <SoulShadow> but thanks for being completely unhelpful
[06:42] <kevdog> @ax562 -- do you still have dialup?
[06:43] <ax562> @kevdog, chill man
[06:43] <kevdog> @ax562 - - just checkin' :p
[06:43] <dr_willis> all tablet discussion is in #ubuntu-tablet and #ubuntu-arm
[06:44] <ax562> my system is a duo core 2 T7300 @2.0GHZ 4GBRAM DDR2 1.0FSB
[06:44] <ax562> that i bought by myself
[06:44] <ax562> not my mommy
[06:44] <ax562> and I live by myself
[06:44] <cfhowlett> TMI
[06:44] <ax562> with my son that I have full custody of
[06:44] <kevdog> age?
[06:44] <ax562> @kevdog
[06:45] <ax562> he's 5
[06:45] <kevdog> no wait -- I don't want to know ---
[06:45] <ax562> If i could afford new pc I would get one man
[06:45] <HHT> hi I'm running 12.04 and I can't seem to get "networking stop/waiting" to start
[06:45] <kevdog> your rolling with a machine that's 5x newer than mine
[06:45] <Civella> Excuse me, does Ubuntu go slower if you have two monitors going at once?
[06:45] <ax562> I'm just saying, you were talking it up
[06:46] <dr_willis> Civella:  the gpus are driving more data so it will be  a little slower.. depends on the details
[06:46] <kevdog> im bored
[06:46] <deeZ84> core 2 duos are only like 2008 right?
[06:46] <ax562> I bought brand new in summer 07
[06:46] <ax562> last year was my upgrade year andd crash, life gave me a cick in the nads
[06:46] <Civella> Yeah, this little laptop probably can't handle this 25" monitor too. But it takes longer to open up applications, so it's kind of ruining my experience. This is also my first time on any linux distro.
[06:47] <kevdog> linux is perfect for old hardware
[06:47] <ax562> yeah, but I'm running xp also
[06:47] <deeZ84> not incredibly old, im running arch linux distro on a celeron box cause its so old
[06:47] <Civella> I just timed it, it takes roughly 4-5 seconds to open up an application.
[06:47] <cfhowlett> ax562, lubuntu or xubuntu ... look into it
[06:47] <kevdog> celeron -- oh that's nice
[06:47] <deeZ84> haha it was free
[06:47] <ax562> I produce/mix/master and I have about 30,000 dollars worth of xp software that I do not want to lose, that is the reason i'm being very careful
[06:48] <dr_willis> Civella:  its not the size.. its the res that matters i imagine. ;) ive done netbooks + external displays just fine
[06:48] <deeZ84> my pops was about to throw it away
[06:48] <ax562> I run xubuntu on my droid bionic
[06:48] <kevdog> @ax562 -- this is a desktop right?
[06:48] <iter> ax562: what's the goal here w/r/t upgrading?
[06:48] <kevdog> @deeZ84 -- perfect for server
[06:48] <ax562> no laptop
[06:48] <dr_willis> ax562:  then you should have that HD cloned and backuped seval times.. a HD CAN die at any time...
[06:48] <iter> ax562: why not just upgrade to the latest 32bit release?
[06:48] <ax562> deving from source
[06:49] <cfhowlett> ax562, then I seriously suggest you take a look at linux for creative humans : Ubuntu Studio
[06:49] <Civella> dr_willis: I'll turn the res down since it's at 1920xXXXX at the moment.  I'll see if it helps at all.
[06:49] <ax562> I write code for shits and giggles
[06:49] <cfhowlett> ax562, built on top of xubuntu .... should run great for your system
[06:49] <kevdog> @ax562 -- I'd really install on another hard-drive -- and you sure your machine is 64 bit ready -- sounds like a 32 bit install to me
[06:49] <deeZ84> @kevdog i just finished installing arch linux on it i prob will use it as a server
[06:49] <ax562> no duo core
[06:49] <ax562> 64bit compatible
[06:49] <kevdog> deeZ84 - that's a nice setup
[06:50] <ax562> but can't compile from source using 32bit ubuntu
[06:50] <MatthewL> !files
[06:50] <ax562> must be 64 bit
[06:50] <deeZ84> i like arch for old machines it runs fast makes me feel like its new technology lol
[06:50] <Civella> dr_willis: I just tried opening up an application after toning it down to 1366x768 and it was much quicker. I hope I don't run into anymore issues. Thanks.
[06:50] <kevdog> @deeZ84 -- using window manager?
[06:50] <ax562> anyone compile from source here?
[06:50] <ax562> android?
[06:51] <deeZ84> im trying out de KDE right now never used it before
[06:51] <iter> what are you building
[06:51] <iter> we build sw all the time
[06:51] <kevdog> @deeZ84 -- wow that's heavy --
[06:52] <kevdog> @deeZ84 -- nothing like openbox I guess
[06:52] <lonesword> I did sudo apt-get install python-box2d-doc
[06:52] <lonesword> box2d is working
[06:52] <ax562> I was trying to compile aosp and anything else android related
[06:52] <MatthewL> Ax562: build Android love here
[06:52] <lonesword> but any idea where i can find the docs?
[06:52] <deeZ84> @kevdog im going to switch over to a windows manager but im really new to linux so the DE's make it easier for me
[06:52] <deeZ84> do you reccomend openbox?
[06:52] <MatthewL> Ubuntu is great platform for that ax562
[06:52] <ax562> is 12.04 64bit or 12.10 64bit the way to go?
[06:53] <lonesword> ax562, 12.10
[06:53] <MatthewL> Either way
[06:53] <iter> ax562: if you are scared to reinstall, why not virtualize the latest and greatest
[06:53] <ax562> I created rom's for myself using kitchen but that is kids play stuff
[06:53] <lonesword> Anybody have any idea where the documentation of packages you apt-get go?
[06:53] <MatthewL> lol
[06:53] <iter> ax562: install virtualbox, install clean version of OS in there, go nuts
[06:53] <dr_willis> lonesword:  try /usr/share/docs
[06:53] <kevdog> @deeZ84 -- frankly its a pain in the ass at first but it runs really fast on old hardware -- so does e17, however until you get used to how those things work -- you'll hate them since they are not as full featured as gnome or kde -- however you might want to roll with xcfe since thats a good thing in the middle
[06:54] <MatthewL> Was just gonna say that
[06:54] <ax562> yeah but limited hw, so that will be slow as sh!t
[06:54] <iter> but it will be non-destructive
[06:54] <ax562> true
[06:54] <iter> and since you have 30k of software and no backups....
[06:54] <iter> shrug
[06:54] <ax562> no I will make back up before
[06:55] <iter> ay ay ay
[06:55] <deeZ84> @kevdog i am playing around with a lot of distros and getting familiar with the command line ill try out XCFE next it was a pain installing arch linux at first but got it done finally lastnight
[06:55] <ax562> I have maxtor back up manager
[06:55] <iter> now you are just trolling us
[06:55] <dr_willis> i have to wonder why you dont allready have backups  ;)
[06:55] <ax562> basically uses linux on disk dd command lol
[06:55] <ax562> .bmr file though...wierd
[06:55] <lonesword> dr_willis, Found it. It wasnt exactly the documentation. Just the changelog and readme. Thanks anyway :)
[06:55] <kevdog> @ddZ84 -- arch is fun -- you learn a little bit more how to install things -- not as much hand holding
[06:56] <ax562> who's trolling?
[06:56] <deeZ84> @kevdog that is what i like about it, i am forced to learn with it
[06:56] <IdleOne> ax562: Please keep the language clean
[06:56] <kevdog> >
[06:56] <kevdog> ?
[06:56] <ax562> ?
[06:56] <iter> ax562: make backup, reinstall, restore if it didn't work. nuff said
[06:57] <ax562> things could still go wrong in all that
[06:57] <kevdog> @deeZ84 -- its no gentoo, but its still fun :p
[06:57] <ax562> I'm just being SUPER cautious
[06:57] <Civella> Holy crap. Ubuntu is making me buffer videos A LOT quicker.
[06:57] <lonesword> ?
[06:57] <deeZ84> @kevdog yeah i read gentoo is one of the hardest
[06:58] <dr_willis> none are hard - if yiu learn the fundamentals
[06:58] <iter> ^^
[06:58] <lonesword> And read the documentation :)
[06:58] <iter> all linux is the same
[06:58] <ax562> OK.  Last question and ill be out of your hair....
[06:58] <kevdog> @deeZ84 -- I'm probably not going to get around to trying gentoo or BSD anytime soon
[06:58] <ben____> Hi, i was wondering if it was possible to install ubuntu onto a old server? dell poweredge 840
[06:58] <dr_willis> ecept for those weird Puppylinux and  TinyCore guys.. :)  the sickos
[06:58] <ax562> is 12.04 64bit or 12.10 64bit the way to go for compiling aosp from source?
[06:59] <dr_willis> ax562:  i always use 64bit os on 64bit hardware
[06:59] <cfhowlett> ben____, don't see why not ...
[06:59] <lonesword> Talking about tinycore. The farthest I got was to get a blue screen with a dock. I had no idea what to do from there!
[06:59] <deeZ84> @kevdog me either i am going to stick with arch as far as learning right now although i do run ubuntu on my laptop and linux mint on another home desktop so i have a lot going on arch is just my toy box setup right now
[06:59] <lonesword> Puppy was more, 'nice'!
[06:59] <kevdog> You are going to cross compile for arm anyway right?? So does it really matter?
[06:59] <ax562> but wich version 12.04 or 12.10?
[06:59] <dr_willis> lonesword:  you were done.. that was the whole OS..
[06:59] <dr_willis> lonesword:  you then installed what youneeded
[07:00] <lonesword> dr_willis, Well, there wasn't a network manager or anything that lets you connect to the net right? So how was i supposed to get the install packages?
[07:00] <dr_willis> lonesword:  they  have an icon for a network manager in the  menus and panel last i looked
[07:00] <dr_willis> or some sort of control-panel with one
[07:00] <kevdog> lonesword -- or just connect using a few command line statements
[07:01]  * dr_willis recalls what someone said about  reading docs...
[07:01] <ben____> I made a live cd of ubuntu but could not boot off of it.. running windows 7 on it currently
[07:01] <lonesword> dr_willis, Really? Maybe I should have looked harder. I remember tinycore not detecting my modem. I had a dsl connection
[07:01] <surbs> ubuntu 12.04 LTS: prompted to launch xdg-open irc, have xchat installed, press launch application and nothing happens. ideas?
[07:01] <dr_willis> never used dsl. so no idea on that
[07:01] <histo> lonesword: you could configure the network manually.
[07:01] <lonesword> ben____, you probably didn't change the boot priority of your BIOS
[07:02] <ben____> i did but i think it might have an out of date bios..
[07:02] <histo> ben____: press F12 while your system boots and tell it to boot off the cd
[07:02] <lonesword> dr_willis, I was younger and lot more stupid back then
[07:02] <kevdog> ben__: how about changing that nick out to something without lines?
[07:02] <lonesword> Yups!
[07:02] <ax562> Which is better 12.04 64bit or 12.10 64bit for compiling aosp from source?
[07:02] <lonesword> ben____, All bios can boot from a cd.
[07:03] <woo> Dumb stuff is fun to do
[07:03] <histo> ax562: What is aosp?
[07:03] <cfhowlett> benisigh, thankks
[07:03] <ax562> android open source project
[07:03] <benisigh> yeah sorry about that ya'll
[07:04] <kevdog> says on the aosp website that for newer version greater than 2.3.x -- 64bit is required
[07:04] <woo> like looping x sessions on the same machine
[07:04] <histo> ax562: ubuntu 12.04 is the long term support version 12.10 is not.
[07:04] <histo> !releases | ax562
[07:05] <ax562> @kevdog i got that already, thats what started all of this
[07:05] <ax562> ;)
[07:05] <benisigh> If i just want to use it as a file server would ubuntu be suffient? or is there a server build?
[07:05] <histo> ax562: choice is yours. 12.10 has updated packages considering it was released 6 months after 12.04 but it's only supported for 18months
[07:05] <kevdog> http://source.android.com/source/initializing.html
[07:05] <cfhowlett> !server|benisigh,
[07:05] <histo> benisigh: there is a server iso It will install a command line system
[07:05] <ax562> yeah but is it better for compiling android source vs 12.04?
[07:05] <kevdog> sorry misread your question
[07:05] <histo> !better | ax562
[07:05] <cfhowlett> benisigh, there is also a channel #ubuntu-server
[07:06] <histo> dead channel
[07:06] <woo> quick poll who prefers Graphical User Interface and who prefers Terminal?
[07:06] <kevdog> sure is
[07:06] <kevdog> @woo -- I see what you did there
[07:06] <cfhowlett> woo, no polls here try please
[07:06] <woo> I just wanted to know sorry
[07:07] <iter> woo, the answer is yes
[07:07] <woo> yes for both.  hmmmmmmmmmmm
[07:07] <DJJeff> I put some files in /tmp rebooted and now they are gone whats the best way to get them back ?
[07:07] <kevdog> you cant
[07:07] <iter> DJJeff: they are gone
[07:08] <DJJeff> really ?
[07:08] <kevdog> that was the swap file
[07:08] <cfhowlett> DJJeff, WHY would you put files in /tmp?  those get flushed on reboot
[07:08] <kevdog> k
[07:08] <kevdog> what that /tmp or ~/tmp
[07:09] <nyuszika7h> /var/tmp maybe?
[07:09] <kevdog> dont worry -- I've made that mistake before  ::facepalm::  only one however
[07:09] <nyuszika7h> also, /tmp is not a "swap" file, it's a tmpfs (ramdisk), stored in RAM :P
[07:09] <DJJeff> people are telling me I can recover a superblock from /tmp  even after reboot
[07:09] <kevdog> never again
[07:09] <histo> DJJeff: undelete
[07:10] <histo> !undelete | DJJeff
[07:10] <nyuszika7h> how could you recover the RAM after reboot?
[07:10] <nyuszika7h> DJJeff: that reminds me when I went with Debian's default and used /var/run/ircd
[07:10] <nyuszika7h> on next reboot, boom, my IRC server was gone
[07:10] <histo> nyuszika7h: default /tmp is not ramdisk
[07:10] <nyuszika7h> it's not?
[07:11] <histo> nyuszika7h: take a look at mount
[07:12] <nyuszika7h> I don't have ubuntu because my old laptop will give "EDD: Error X reading sector Y" errors when booting Kubuntu or openSUSE from an USB stick. the ISO's checksum is correct, tried two USB sticks and 4 ports.
[07:13] <histo> nyuszika7h: ahh it's controlled by /etc/default/rcS
[07:13] <histo> ther eis a tmptime=
[07:13] <cfhowlett> nyuszika7h, that sounds like a failing usb ... they do go bad.
[07:13] <cfhowlett> nyuszika7h, eesh.  nevermind.  didn't read.
[07:13] <DJJeff> so /tmp doesnt reside on the hdd only in ram ?
[07:13] <nyuszika7h> fwiw tried mouse's port too
[07:14] <histo> nyuszika7h: My commend was in regaurds to /tmp being cleaned on boot
[07:14] <histo> DJJeff: it's on the hdd
[07:14] <histo> DJJeff: atleast in ubuntu
[07:14] <woo> !testdisk | DJJeff
[07:14] <woo> nyuszika7h: hak5
[07:14] <woo> nyuszika7h: you use a can of air and usb
[07:14] <nyuszika7h> what?
[07:14] <nyuszika7h> no hardware virtualization either (it's a Pentium M 740), after some messages I get a black screen in VirtualBox
[07:15] <histo> DJJeff: you need to immediately stop using your disk. if you want a chance at recovering the files. Remote / ro
[07:15] <DJJeff> I am booted off live cd at the moment
[07:15] <woo> nyuszika7h: what do you use for ur bootloader?
[07:16] <kevdog> hold on -- virtual memory is split between /swap and RAM -- if the file was in RAM its gone
[07:16] <nyuszika7h> NTLDR (Windows XP), but the USB boots fine, I'm just getting errors about reading sectorx
[07:16] <nyuszika7h> sectors
[07:16] <histo> DJJeff: Okay what type of files were they that you are looking for?
[07:17] <nyuszika7h> I think the message comes from ISOLINUX, because it appears on both live USBs.
[07:17] <DJJeff> flash files (.swf)
[07:17] <histo> DJJeff: on the live cd            sudo apt-get install testdisk
[07:18] <histo> !undelete | DJJeff Follow these directions
[07:18] <nyuszika7h> I have an Ubuntu 10.04 LTS CD which boots fine, but it's very old (almost 500 updates from lucid-security)
[07:19] <kevdog> night guys --- I'm glad the discussion was lively tonight :)
[07:19] <cfhowlett> nyuszika7h, and 10.04 is end of life in a few weeks
[07:19] <nyuszika7h> it is? :O
[07:19] <cfhowlett> !eol
[07:19] <nyuszika7h> on servers too? just wondering, not like I'm going to use it
[07:20] <cfhowlett> nyuszika7h, 10.04 on the desktop has 36 months, server has 60 months support
[07:20] <nyuszika7h> oh
[07:20] <cfhowlett> nyuszika7h, fwiw 12.04 has 5 years support on both
[07:20] <nyuszika7h> ah, nice
[07:20] <nyuszika7h> but for desktop I'll end up installing the latest version probably, anyway
[07:23] <SuperLag> Any of you guys remap keys on your keyboard?
[07:23] <woo> SuperLag: for language support?
[07:24] <SuperLag> woo: not for language support... as much as wanting to make the Caps Lock key actually useful. :)
[07:24] <SuperLag> woo: I want to swap Control and Caps Lock
[07:24] <SuperLag> woo: very easy to do on my Macbook Pro, in OS X. More hackery required with Linux. :)
[07:25] <woo> SuperLag: ?? why hack with ubuntu?
[07:25] <histo> !keys | SuperLag
[07:25] <Kartagis> exec("cat /home/xen.txt"){ echo $1; }
[07:26] <histo> Kartagis: ?
[07:26] <Kartagis> so, I'd installed !xen a long time ago, and now I need to switch kernels. when I do, I get "/bin/sh: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open object file: No such file or directory". I also upgraded the kernel, and I get the same message. why am I getting that? I've got /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
[07:27] <woo> hacking with ubuntu is not in default repos
[07:28] <SuperLag> woo: that must have changed recently... because the last time I looked, it involved changing codes in a config file
[07:28] <ax562> @all OK.  Looks like I'm going with 12.04 64bit
[07:29] <ax562> Thank you all for all the great advise!
[07:30] <woo> SuperLag: just im just upset the aircrack suite is gone
[07:30] <wiggmpk> woo: thats "cracking", not hacking..
[07:30] <cfhowlett> !ot
[07:31] <woo> cfhowlett: @who?
[07:32] <cfhowlett> woo, gentle reminder to all ... now let's do some ubuntu support!
[07:33] <woo> Yeaaa for Ubuntu for some reason nmap see's my ubuntu laptop as having all ports closed with all scans!
[07:33] <nyuszika7h> woo, maybe because of UFW?
[07:34] <nyuszika7h> sudo ufw status verbose
[07:34] <MatthewL> Does Ubuntu use iptables?
[07:34] <nyuszika7h> yes, UFW is a frontend to netfilter/iptables
[07:34] <histo> !info aircrack | woo
[07:34] <histo> MatthewL: yes
[07:34] <histo> woo: I thought it was in universe
[07:34] <nyuszika7h> !info aircrack universe
[07:34] <nyuszika7h> fail
[07:34] <histo> woo: http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/aircrack-ng  It's there
[07:34] <woo> histo: I can get it
[07:35] <MatthewL> How would I configure a firewall with iptables?
[07:35] <bau> hi all I installed lammp using tasktel and I can't find the install dir of lampp on my ubuntu (typically is in /opt) how can I find it?
[07:35] <nyuszika7h> "stable, testing, unstable" sounds like debian
[07:35] <DJJeff> woo there is also aircrack svn :)
[07:35] <MatthewL> bau try /var/www
[07:36] <woo> I only like aircrack for customer education
[07:36] <woo> just sad it was gone
[07:36] <Frekholm> Hi! New to Ubuntu. Can I install Ubuntu beside Windows but on a different drive?
[07:36] <SuperLag> woo: and how exactly would that help you educate customers?
[07:36] <MatthewL> Configuration in /etc
[07:36] <woo> feel like I can trust you guys not to use it on me right?
[07:36] <histo> woo: It's not gone
[07:36] <nyuszika7h> Frekholm: different hard drive or different partition on the same HDD?
[07:37] <histo> !firewall | MatthewL
[07:37] <bau> MatthewL, in /var/www there is only my site dir
[07:37] <Kartagis> any ideas?
[07:37] <Frekholm> nyuszika7h: different hard drive
[07:37] <woo> SuperLag: lets join ubuntu-ot
[07:37] <DJJeff> steam came to linux so I noticed opengl updated and since opengl updated my gfx are all messed up
[07:37] <nyuszika7h> it should be possible, though I've never installed it like that
[07:38] <MatthewL> bau /etc/apache
[07:38] <Kartagis> Frekholm: of course, just mark the drive when asked
[07:38] <woo> I am the only one in ot
[07:39] <DJJeff> something todo with Allow Flipping in my nvidia settings and when I turn on Framebuffer object in compizconfig my screen goes black
[07:39] <nyuszika7h> woo:
[07:39] <nyuszika7h> #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:39] <woo> :(
[07:40] <bau> MatthewL, There is /etc/apache2 but it has only few dirs: conf.d mods-available mods-enabled sites-available sites-enabled
[07:41] <Frekholm> Is it that easy? So I choose install beside windows and the choose another drive?
[07:41] <MatthewL> Between /etc/init.d and what you mentioned, that is all there is to Apache
[07:41] <histo> !dualboot | Frekholm
[07:42] <histo> MatthewL: What are you trying to do?
[07:42] <woo> Frekholm: using windows still?
[07:42] <bau> MatthewL, where can I find php errors in the web server logs?
[07:42] <woo> Frekholm: you want to defrag before a duel boot
[07:42] <MatthewL> histo: educate bau
[07:42] <histo> bau: /var/log/*
[07:42] <histo> ahh
[07:43] <woo> Frekholm: only like 10gb ext has ever survived with both on my machines
[07:43] <MatthewL> Lots to learn about the web by learning Apache configurations bau
[07:43] <Frekholm> Im kind of lost in Ubuntu but curious
[07:44] <DJJeff> unity is so gross I use Xfce heh
[07:44] <Jordan_U> woo: Frekholm: There is no need to defrag before resizing a an ntfs filesystem with ntfsresize, from the man page: "Defragmentation is NOT required prior to  resizing  because  the program   can  relocate  any  data  if  needed,  without  risking  data integrity."
[07:44] <MatthewL> Lxde forever
[07:44] <histo> Frekholm: It's easy you just need to install ubuntu to the other drive and install grub to the mbr of your windows disk.
[07:44] <histo> Frekholm: or you can instlal both on one drive choice is yours
[07:44] <woo> Jordan_U: really? how is that.  When did that change?
[07:45] <Jordan_U> woo: It has been that way for many years.
[07:45] <woo> Jordan_U: then I am not good at it
[07:46] <woo> I have even crashed virtual sessions with the same bug
[07:46] <Jordan_U> woo: Please report said bug.
[07:48] <Noorideen> Jordan_U,
[07:49] <woo> Jordan_U: I cant atm
[07:50] <Jordan_U> Noorideen: Yes?
[07:50] <woo> Jordan_U: I need vb on a 500+ gb and Im at max server storage
[07:51] <Noorideen> Jordan_U,  nah nothing i just thought that you are from Jordan.
[07:51] <woo> can I install windows in linux?
[07:52] <Kartagis> nope
[07:52] <Kartagis> woo: actually if you install virtualbox on linux, you can install windows in that
[07:53] <woo> Kartagis: not vb actual duel boot
[07:54] <woo> sorry Kartagis "Not virtualbox install.  I am trying to write windows to the MBR from an ubuntu machine"
[07:54] <Kartagis> woo: that is not something you do IN linux
[07:54] <woo> Kartagis: if I use gparted and dd I might be able to. :)
[07:56] <woo> !wubi | woo
[07:59] <bau> MatthewL, how can I change the permission of /var/www/my_site so evryone can read/write on it?
[08:00] <MatthewL> I love you, ubottu
[08:00] <woo> Kartagis: looks like I could use fdisk
[08:00] <Kartagis> woo: I'd be exremely careful with that
[08:01] <woo> !fdisk | Kartagis
[08:01] <woo> no kidding
[08:01] <MatthewL> bau: chown -R user:user /var/www
[08:01] <Kartagis> woo: I'm guessing fdisk will not serve what you want to achieve
[08:02] <MatthewL> Where user is you and your group bau
[08:02] <bau> thanks
[08:02] <Noorideen> bau
[08:03] <Noorideen> bau, is it working now?
[08:03] <woo> Kartagis: I have it but its not safe
[08:03] <bau> yes It seems working
[08:03] <MatthewL> bau you'll probably want to limit permissions with chmod 755 or 644, though.
[08:04] <bau> sudo chmod 755 /var/www ?
[08:04] <MatthewL> After you chown, you don't need to sudo.
[08:04] <bau> ok
[08:05] <Noorideen> but maybe he can make a symbolic link?
[08:05] <woo> Noorideen: that seems like a pratical solution.  Is that what you use?
[08:06] <Noorideen> woo, yes
[08:06] <Noorideen> its better than messing with the permissions, right?
[08:07] <woo> Noorideen: it is the diffrence between passive and active
[08:07] <MatthewL> Well...  I just told my Ubuntu setup in a nutshell.
[08:08] <woo> Noorideen: im so tempted to just throw up some chmod that is totally fun
[08:08] <MatthewL> I still don't know what symbolic link s would really do for the situation
[08:09] <woo> MatthewL: if I got uid with sudo just by u being on irc its a nice shot
[08:10] <MatthewL> Hunh?
[08:10] <Noorideen> MatthewL, i am new so, i kept trying everything i find on google. i ruined my linux twice :P. but now i am on ubuntu and i tried a symbolic link, which is working fine for me
[08:11] <woo> MatthewL: hard to hack a droid though
[08:11] <MatthewL> Ok, do you have a lamp server setup? (I've crashed my systems many times, and have become very skilled)
[08:12] <linusoleander> Is there a way to mimic a users environment settings when running a cronjob?
[08:12] <MatthewL> woo do you Android?
[08:12] <woo> MatthewL: yes I do have a LAMP up but I dont use it.
[08:12] <Noorideen> MatthewL, yes i do, you cant be right right from the first you have to do some trail and error (:
[08:12] <Noorideen> lol
[08:12] <MatthewL> Whole heartedly agreed!
[08:13] <Noorideen> does anyone how to raise up the volume on youtube with no mouse?
[08:14] <MatthewL> Without a separate remote hosting server, a lamp setup can give great practice.
[08:15] <woo> MatthewL: I run ubuntu server just to sit there and flip switches.  And if recon is good enough firewalls wont even care.
[08:15] <Noorideen> woo, why ubuntu server?
[08:15] <woo> Noorideen: ports ports ports
[08:15] <Guest52789> yeeeeeessss finally got it running
[08:15] <woo> Guest52789: Grats!
[08:16] <Noorideen> woo, ah i see
[08:16] <woo> Noorideen: ubuntu is very good about logging
[08:17] <woo> Noorideen: not quite selinux but fair and clear
[08:17] <Noorideen> guys srsly no one knows how to raise up the youtubes volume without using mouse?
[08:17] <MatthewL> What do you mean woo, about recon?
[08:17] <Noorideen> woo, i am new to linux and ubuntu etc. this is my 5th game using it :P
[08:17] <Noorideen> still learning
[08:17] <Guest52789> 6 hours of troubleshooting thank you [insert name of  acceptable divine figure]!!
[08:18] <MatthewL> Great classes I've taken in Linux, too
[08:18] <woo> Noorideen: you keep count?
[08:18] <woo> Noorideen: hey try to keep that count
[08:18] <Guest52789> yea didnt have this much tuble the fist time lol
[08:19] <Noorideen> woo, why?
[08:19] <woo> Noorideen: I lost count
[08:19] <MatthewL>  An i++ thing?
[08:19] <woo> MatthewL: oh ya ubuntu-offtopic
[08:19] <Noorideen> woo, i will lose it for sure
[08:20] <gau1991> hi
[08:20] <woo> gau1991: hi
[08:21] <woo> MatthewL: I will explain with I mean about recon
[08:21] <Guest52789> did anybody have an issue with  compiz 12.10
[08:22] <woo> Guest52789: crashed my x and uninstalled part of unity for me
[08:23] <woo> Guest52789: wait not 12.10 if that is what you mean by distro I was on 12.04
[08:23] <Guest52789> i couldnt get around it. running 12.04
[08:23] <woo> Guest52789: did you get ur x back?
[08:24] <Guest52789> yes woo: everything optimal now
[08:24] <woo> Guest52789: ya don't know how I even broke it
[08:25] <Guest52789> woo: u didnt. apparently its a common bug
[08:25] <Guest52789> woo: r u running of a driv or virtual machine?
[08:26] <woo> Guest52789: hdd
[08:27] <PadNet_201> So here's a question. Say i wanna report a program crash, which repos do i need to add these necessary programs
[08:28] <Guest52789> woo: strange. prob coz u have gfx same as me
[08:28] <aeon-ltd> PadNet_201: you talking about apport?
[08:29] <PadNet_201> The regular crash reporter w/ 12.2, I allow the backtrace to run, but it says addt'l software to install, I click forward and it says I need to add a repo it can't find the necessary software
[08:31] <Guest52789> i am running a lower res than my dispalay can i get help changing resolution  1920x1080
[08:33] <bau> MatthewL, I have still problems with /var/www permissions: I'm using wordpress & if I want to change a theme for example, it says that it can't write in the folder
[08:35] <clul355n00b> nightall
[08:36] <killer> what package will contain cstring library in ubuntu 12.10
[08:37] <MatthewL> bau what permissions is wp and who owns it?
[08:38] <bau> MatthewL, drwxr-sr-x  5 ettore ettore 4096 Feb 21 09:06 wordpress
[08:38] <maxygas> hi
[08:39] <maxygas> what should i do if ifconfig dont shows my usb wifi ?
[08:40] <bau> MatthewL, can' t I give 777 to /var/www/wordpress?
[08:41] <MatthewL> bay no!
[08:42] <MatthewL> Try 644 our 755, never 777.
[08:43] <MatthewL> bau are you ettorre?
[08:43] <bau> yes
[08:43] <bau> ettore
[08:43] <MatthewL> Hmm
[08:44] <bau> btw with 644 I can't go to site, 755 the server can't wrtite in the dir
[08:44] <MatthewL> bau oh!
[08:44] <MatthewL> Its a WordPress thing. You may need ftp configured within WordPress
[08:45] <Zer0Glitch> Hey guys... Total newb question: Once I've run tar -zxvf to extract a package, how do I install it?
[08:46] <bau> you sure? it's alla working in my local server, and now I wanted only to change the theme...
[08:46] <Zer0Glitch> E.g. "tar -zxvf kpowersave_0.7.3.orig.tar.gz"
[08:46] <MatthewL> That had to be configured in the admin part of WordPress
[08:47] <bau> MatthewL, I tried sudo chown -R www-data:www-data /var/www it seems working
[08:47] <kepler> Zer0Glitch: normally cd to the directory it untarred to and ./configure then make then make install -- not sure about that particular thing though, looks like something you would import with KDE's interface somehow
[08:48] <MatthewL> Oh great!
[08:49] <MatthewL> Sounds good bau
[08:49] <bau> how can I add me to www-data group?
[08:51] <MatthewL> Good question.
[08:51] <MatthewL> I will be learning that soon.
[08:52] <bau> sudo useradd -g www-data ettore ?
[08:52] <bau> no
[08:52] <bau> sudo usermod -a -G www-data  ettore ?
[08:52] <Kartagis> bau: sudo useradd -a ettore www-data
[08:53] <bau> thanks :D
[08:53] <Kartagis> bau: sorry, it's gpasswd, not useradd
[08:54] <bau> right it working
[08:54] <bau> hum, still I can't modify /var/www files ...
[08:56] <MatthewL> You don't own them anymore?
[08:56] <roxkYu> hello..
[08:56] <maxygas> heloo
[08:56] <roxkYu> is the ubuntu phone OS out yet?
[08:56] <maxygas> can you help me?
[08:56] <MatthewL> Good night.
[08:57] <Kartagis> bau: log out and back in
[08:57] <bau> ok
[08:57] <bau> I'll try that later, now I can't
[08:58] <rdav> roxkYu, dunno, chk out channel #ubuntuphone they might tell you more there...
[08:58] <roxkYu> ok..thanks for the headup
[08:59] <Porknails> Hi
[08:59] <Porknails> Can a
[09:00] <Porknails> Can anyone help me with a boot error of Ubuntu pls?
[09:00] <rdav> roxkYu, #ubuntu-phone
[09:00] <roxkYu> ok..thanks.
[09:02] <roxkYu> not out yet
[09:03] <Zer0Glitch> Hey guys... I have Ubuntu 12.4 LTS and I tried installing kpowersave (a battery status icon and power configuration tool) and got the following response while using ./configure:
[09:03] <Zer0Glitch> "checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
[09:03] <Zer0Glitch> checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
[09:03] <Zer0Glitch> checking target system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
[09:03] <Zer0Glitch> checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
[09:03] <FloodBot1> Zer0Glitch: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:03] <Zer0Glitch> checking for -p flag to install... yes
[09:03] <Zer0Glitch> checking whether build environment is sane... yes
[09:03] <Pedro2> Hi
[09:04] <Zer0Glitch> Sorry about that...
[09:04] <Pedro2> Can anyone help me with a boot error please?
[09:04] <Zer0Glitch> Okay, so, I had a problem readout when I was attempting to install kpowersave on my IBM laptop. Perhaps someone here can help me figure out how to fix this. Here is the URL for the output I received: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1697937/
[09:06] <the_rat> Hello
[09:07] <the_rat> Can I launch multiple services from within a single Upstart script?
[09:07] <the_rat> I want to control (start/stop) all the processes together
[09:08] <chovy> how do i enable remote desktop connections from the command line?
[09:08] <chovy> i'm running 12.10
[09:09] <bau> Kartagis, I tried to log out but still can't copy files
[09:10] <alumno> hola
[09:10] <Kartagis> bau: what does ls -ld /var/www tell you
[09:10] <alumno2314> EY
[09:10] <alumno> xd
[09:10] <alumno> jhason
[09:10] <bau> Kartagis, drwxr-sr-x 8 www-data www-data 4096 Feb 21 09:05 /var/www
[09:10] <Kartagis> bau: what does id tell you?
[09:10] <alumno2314> eh!
[09:10] <alumno> penishes
[09:10] <alumno2314> Hello everybody
[09:10] <alumno> hello bitch
[09:11] <bau> Kartagis, which id?
[09:11] <alumno2314> Your fucker mother
[09:11] <Kartagis> bau: id, the command
[09:11] <Kartagis> !ops | alumno2314
[09:11] <bau> Kartagis, uid=1000(ettore) gid=1000(ettore) groups=1000(ettore),4(adm),24(cdrom),27(sudo),30(dip),33(www-data),46(plugdev),109(lpadmin),124(sambashare)
[09:11] <alumno> jhason
[09:12] <woo> alumno: you stop being as texan as you want to be.  Im holdin it back
[09:12] <alumno> vhau putos
[09:12] <Kartagis> bau: try chmod 775 /var/www/
[09:12] <bau> Kartagis, with sudo?
[09:12] <woo> Por que
[09:12] <woo> !es | woo
[09:13] <Kartagis> yes bau
[09:14] <bau> Kartagis, now every dir has a lock in the logo, btw still the same, can't wrtie
[09:14] <Kartagis> bau: do that on console
[09:14] <bau> cp file in the dir from cmd?
[09:15] <demonio> hi all i installed chromium and now i have to install adobe flash player, i want make it by terminal, is it possible? if the answer is "yes" can anyone help me?
[09:16] <auronandace> !flash | demonio
[09:17] <aaaaa_> hi all
[09:18] <demonio> auronandace what do you mean with !flash?
[09:18] <auronandace> demonio: look at ubottu's message
[09:18] <Noorideen> good night!
[09:20] <demonio> it explains how to make it by software center but if is it possible i want make it by terminal
[09:21] <tgunr> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1991347
[09:22] <demonio> I had chromium no firefox
[09:22] <demonio> tgunr
[09:22] <maxygas> hi
[09:22] <corden> what the direct channel to ubuntu phone/tablet devs. thanks
[09:22] <jpds> corden: #ubuntu-tablet ?
[09:23] <corden> thanks jpds
[09:23] <maxygas> what can i do if after install ifconfig,iwconfig shows no wireless conn?
[09:24] <woo> maxygas: additional harware
[09:24] <corden> hi jpds, empty channel
[09:24] <corden> does anybody here able to install ubuntu-sdk on ubuntu 12.04?
[09:25] <maxygas> tp link tl wn722n
[09:25] <maxygas> compat driver installed too
[09:25] <auronandace> demonio: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[09:25] <corden> unable to install ubuntu-sdk to 12.04 since qtchooser always return an error
[09:29] <jakob____> hi
[09:30] <jakob____> i have a question about the sys reqs for a server - like can i start one irc server with 1gb of ram and 1 ghz and 20gb
[09:30] <demonio> thanks auronandace it works :)
[09:34] <DarkSim> Does anyone in here have extensive knowledge of Remmina?
[09:36] <Pedro2> Can anyone help me please? I'm a Ubuntu newbie ^^
[09:36] <user__> hello where does ubuntu 12.10 writes down the wifi settings? Its not available in /etc/network/interfaces or /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[09:39] <gabkdlly> Pedro2, What do you need help with ?
[09:40] <Pedro2> I have a boot error. It's shows a
[09:40] <Pedro2> This message:
[09:41] <Pedro2> Ata_id [298]:0
[09:41] <Pedro2> Hdio_get_identity failed
[09:42] <Pedro2> I'm sorry about the spam :/
[09:42] <invariant> Why is the password length for an e-mail account limited in evolution?
[09:44] <Joschii> hihi
[09:45] <woo> hi Joschii
[09:45] <Pedro2> Also a message pops up saying my display settings are broken and I need to manually reconfigure them, but when I try it doesn't work
[09:45] <woo> Pedro2: #freenode
[09:46] <Pedro2> woo what?
[09:46] <woo>  /join freenode
[09:46] <woo> they can help you w/ ur nick settings
[09:46] <zaggynl> hi, anyone got a virtualbox win7 guest bridge to an ubuntu 12.04 wifi working yet?
[09:47] <Pedro2> woo If I don't login I can't speak?
[09:47] <Myrtti> woo, not with *display* settings
[09:48] <zaggynl> the win7 guest isn't getting an ip address
[09:49] <woo> < Pedro2> Hdio_get_identity failed sounds like a nickserv issue
[09:49] <Myrtti> Pedro2: you are speaking :-)
[09:50] <tgunr> I'm a little confused by something, if I stall a package via apt-get and it starts a daemon, should it show up in service --status-all?
[09:50] <Pedro2> woo, this is a error I get when booting ubuntu
[09:50] <llutz> woo: what? thats a kernel-message about failing ATA commands
[09:50] <llutz> Pedro2: usually you can ignore that
[09:51] <Pedro2> Myrtti thank you, I wasn't sure ^^
[09:51] <woo> llutz: whow Then Pedro2 I have no idea what is going on anymore
[09:52] <Pedro2> llutz I can't use the gui of ubuntu
[09:52] <llutz> Pedro2: i referred to "Hdio_get_identity failed"
[09:53] <woo> llutz: oh pastebin stuff, got it.
[09:53] <Pedro2> llutz ahhh, so it's 2 diferent errors?
[09:53] <Kralle> hello
[09:53] <woo> Hi Kralle
[09:53] <mvt007geek> what is fread, fwrite in iozone benchmark?
[09:53] <Kralle> Anyone can help me setup Znc irc bouncher on windows? i have teamviewer on the computer if you wanna help me.
[09:54] <woo> Kralle: haven't used windows in years
[09:54] <Kralle> woo: so you cant help me?
[09:54] <John__> woo, good for you
[09:54] <Kralle> it because i dont know how to setup the server :)
[09:55] <llutz> Kralle: http://wiki.znc.in/ZNC
[09:55] <dr_willis> err... znc is very very well documented
[09:55] <mvt007geek> what is fread, fwrite in iozone benchmark?
[09:55] <fidel> hi, is there a way to 'colorize' files in nautilus? i am used to that function from my mac os x days (finder labels) and it was somehow helpful to highlight specific files in a folderview
[09:55] <Kralle> llutz you can help me setup the server?
[09:55] <dr_willis> ;)
[09:55] <llutz> and windows is not really scope of this channel
[09:56] <dr_willis> Kralle:  when you run it the first time as a user.. it has a wizard .... what havec you actually done to set up the znc server?
[09:56] <Kralle> are there channel for windows then?
[09:56] <Kralle> on this network?
[09:56] <llutz> Kralle: read the documentation, try it , come back if you really have problem (ubuntu-related)
[09:56] <dr_willis> you are using znc on windows?
[09:56] <llutz> #windows
[09:56] <Kralle> i have problems yes
[09:57] <llutz> ubuntu-related..
[09:58] <woo> Is there a geographical traceroute in canonical?
[09:58] <dr_willis> woo huh?
[09:59] <woo> dr_willis: Im using default repos for applications cant find a visual traceroute
[09:59] <thiefy> my server is using lxde ubuntu   -   how can i make x11vnc on that server start before i have to login to the desktop?  meaning, if the computer reboots, i want to be able to vnc to it, and then login to the desktop enviroment.
[10:00] <dr_willis> thiefy:  i belive the askubuntu.com site had some info on getting lightdm to start up x11vnc
[10:00] <mooooo> i've seen old / obsolete info...
[10:00] <Pedro2> llutz how do I resolve the display/graphics card error? None of the options they give me works
[10:00] <dr_willis> mooooo:  is this a headless server?
[10:01] <llutz> Pedro2: i can't help, i don't deal with graphics
[10:02] <woo> llutz: you use traceroute?
[10:02] <llutz> i do
[10:02] <woo> llutz: there are visual traceroute applications for getting a geographical display on each hop
[10:03] <llutz> woo: maybe, i also don't use that. traceroute [options] host              is what i need some time
[10:04] <woo> llutz: I use etherape and iptraf they can get by but smash it all into a consol and its super easy to understand quickly
[10:05] <llutz> woo: and what is the use of some graphical geoip-tracing? for me it is enought to know WHERE (ip-wise) it hangs, not where that host is located
[10:06] <user__> where is my wifi information stored in ubuntu 12.10?
[10:06] <woo> user__: did you try ifconfig or iwconfig for wlan0
[10:07] <Pedro2> Anyone can help me with display/graphic card problems?
[10:07] <user__> iwconfig
[10:07] <woo> user__: try that in terminal
[10:07] <user__> woo: but i am looking for a configuration file
[10:07] <Pedro2> llutz thanks anyway
[10:07] <user__> where is it stored in a configuration file?
[10:07] <woo> user__: its not in iwconfig its in ifconfig
[10:08] <woo> user__: what are you trying to do?
[10:08] <freedy> try
[10:08] <llutz> user__: have you checked /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/ ?
[10:08] <vnc786> i am having ubuntu 12.04 64 acer lcd thru VGA now i have added another LED with HDMI port so can i share my screen at the same time with LED ?
[10:09] <user__> thanks llutz thats exactly that i want to do
[10:09] <woo> llutz: have you used armitage?
[10:10] <llutz> woo: no
[10:10] <lundy> how are we all
[10:11] <woo> llutz: the benefit of a gui is a lot more point and click but it offers a map to refrence with saved whois so you don't have to run it over and over if you forget an admin phone number
[10:12] <woo> llutz: you can build it out on marble but marble keeps giving me road maps and not straight lines
[10:13] <llutz> woo: no need here
[10:13] <dr_willis> vnc786:  you should be avble to clone the screen to all displays
[10:15] <vnc786> dr_willis: at LED connected through HDMI is not getting any output on screen ..but i click on Workspace Switcher it show me 4*2
[10:16] <dr_willis> vnc786:  check your monitors/displays tool. and see if you  can mouse over to the sides/top/buttom and make the pointer vanish off the screen'
[10:16] <dr_willis> vnc786:  ive seen some pcs act odly if both monitors are not plkugged in when the system powers up
[10:18] <vnc786> dr_willis: System Setting --Display window not coming
[10:19] <dr_willis> might be worth the effort to reboot with both  montots plugged in and powered up. Ive seen some video  cards do weird things when hotplugging monitors
[10:20] <vnc786> FYI right now 1. vga capble is connected and i am thru that getting console 2. hdmi cable hot plugged  but no display is coming ..
[10:20] <dr_willis> had a weird thing yesterday.. pligged  the tv into my main pc via a dvi->hdmii cable.. and somehow it became the main sound output.. i dident even think dvi could do sound out. ;)
[10:20] <FREEDY> how can i see all channels
[10:20] <dr_willis> !alis | FREEDY
[10:21] <FREEDY> thanks
[10:21] <dr_willis> vnc786:  i would suggest trying  a restart of the X server. or a reboot.. that might clear things up..
[10:21] <vnc786> w8 doing that and coming back ..
[10:21] <dr_willis> as ive said.. ive seen pcs do weird things when monitors are not plugged in at boot up
[10:22] <dr_willis> seen weird things with  those kvm switches also. ;)
[10:25] <CC__> ? Hi! How do I find out which versions of MySQL server is default in the different versions of Ubuntu server and in future releases? I need a confirmed result, not just a random forum post. What to look for?
[10:25] <hoijui> since a very recent update, the mouse seems to work bad, as in.. it lags/jumps (tested on two different systems with different mice)
[10:25] <hoijui> is thsi a known issue?
[10:26] <hoijui> my (poor) guess would be a kernel regression
[10:26] <llutz> CC__: "apt-cache depends mysql-server"
[10:27] <llutz> CC__: or http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=mysql-server
[10:28] <dr_willis> CC__:  ive seen the disrtowatch  web site also  so a table of versions of specific apps in differnt disrots/releases
[10:28] <CC__> LLUTZ: Cheers! Thats exatlt what I needed.
[10:30] <packetfrog> Is there a program that will tell me all my hardware that is detected?
[10:30] <dr_willis> !info hwinfo
[10:30] <packetfrog> installed by default rather
[10:30] <packetfrog> oic
[10:30] <packetfrog> Thank you.
[10:30] <dr_willis> then theres some others in the repos also
[10:31] <packetfrog> That will do fine, just wanted to see if there was one generally preinstalled before I downloaded something. thank you!
[10:39] <LinaSovereign> Hey !
[10:41] <dr_willis> hmm
[10:49] <guest-8qkU2m> Hi. I need help, I just updated the computer running ubuntu of my wife, and now nothing works anymore. she'll kill me when she gets home, I need to fix this
[10:50] <guest-8qkU2m> i just installed the regular updates, it required a reboot. now the unity desktop isnt working. i have the desktop background, but no menu bar on either left or top, and no way to execute applications
[10:50] <guest-8qkU2m> is that a known issue?
[10:50] <XATRIX> Hi guys, how can i find out which wifi mode do i currently use on ? a/b/g/n ?
[10:52] <yoyooyo> so i heard ubuntu is going down
[10:52] <yoyooyo> going to stop ?
[10:53] <guest-8qkU2m> I alredy tried aptitude update and upgrade in the hope i just missed some packages, but its all up to date
[10:54] <yoyooyo> how dangerous is to update to lastet version of ubuntu ?
[10:56] <lundy> i hate trying to play fb games on ubuntu.... flash player keeps crashing
[10:56] <vnc786> dr_willis: can from 1 motherboard 2 output can be shared using hdmi and vga at same time ???
[10:57] <corden> anybody installed ubuntu-sdk on 12.04?
[10:57] <guest-8qkU2m> lets try something simple. i dont even know which version of ubuntu is installed here. the unity desktop environment isnt working so i started as guest user in xfce. how do i find out the version?
[10:58] <demonio> hi all how can i check if a deamon is active and running? in my arch i type systemctl name_deamon status what is equivalent for ubuntu?
[10:59] <guest-8qkU2m> demonio,  "service <servicename> status"
[10:59] <guest-8qkU2m> see "man service" for details
[11:00] <guest-8qkU2m> I think I have ubuntu 12.10. how do i find out?
[11:01] <fidel> guest-8qkU2m: lsb_release -a
[11:02] <XATRIX> Hi guys, how can i find out which wifi mode do i currently use on ? a/b/g/n ?
[11:02] <guest-8qkU2m> Thanks. Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal
[11:02] <demonio> guest-8qkU2m thanks
[11:03] <guest-8qkU2m> fidel: I just installed updates through the automatic updater. it required a reboot and now the unity desktop is missing menu bars on both left and right, and the window manager is working in a very limited way, so you can click on icons on the desktop but not start any applications
[11:03] <guest-8qkU2m> how can I debug that?
[11:03] <slow_wireless> hello i need help, my ubuntu wireless is usually really slow with fast peaks sometimes. it is unreliable. can anyone help me fix it?
[11:04] <yoyooyo> how dangerous is to update to lastet version of ubuntu ?
[11:04] <guest-8qkU2m> ( i started by starting xfce as a guest user to start xchat)
[11:04] <packetfrog> Try to purge unity and reinstall?
[11:07] <rtp_> hello anybody can help me with my problem with webservices?
[11:07] <guest-8qkU2m> packetfrog, "ubuntu-desktop" itself is a metapackage, removing it has not really any effect since each individual package thats part of it stays there. can you pinpoint any individual package that could cause that?
[11:09] <guest-8qkU2m> or is there a log written by unity so ic ould find out whats the name of the component that doesnt start?
[11:12] <packetfrog> quest-8qkU2m  http://askubuntu.com/questions/131016/how-can-i-remove-and-re-install-unity
[11:14] <baumy> i need help installing lan drivers onto a desktop that has no internet connection
[11:15] <XATRIX> How can i find out which wifi mode do i currently use on ? a/b/g/n ?
[11:15] <Great_Day> baumy: mostlikely the lan drivers are already installed
[11:15] <Great_Day> You only have to install the wlan drivers true your lan connection
[11:15] <Great_Day> XATRIX: router settings?
[11:15] <savagecroc> any opinions on grsecurity in ubuntu?
[11:16] <guest-8qkU2m> packetfrog, thanks ill try that
[11:16] <XATRIX> Great_Day: Can't check, it's not my router :)
[11:16] <rtp_> when i call a web service soap from ubuntu i keep getting a time out error
[11:16] <guest-8qkU2m> i just smbled upon something, trying to start unity manually on command line. i get
[11:16] <guest-8qkU2m> compiz (unityshell) - Error: GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object not supported
[11:16] <guest-8qkU2m> X Error of failed request:  BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied)
[11:17] <Great_Day> XATRIX: hmm... well normally I would say ping your ipstatus and get into the router settings, but as you don't have the password (I guess)
[11:17] <XATRIX> Is there anyway to check it from workstation ?
[11:17] <baumy> Great_Day: my mobo is fairly new, and the ethernet driver for it isnt shipped in the kernel. gigabyte z77 ud3h, Atheros AR8161 Gigabit Ethernet [1969:1091]
[11:18] <Great_Day> I dunno, XATRIX, why do you need it anyway?
[11:18] <XATRIX> I'd like to figure it out
[11:18] <packetfrog> wifi analyzer
[11:18] <guest-8qkU2m> It seems like I suddenly get this: but in Ubuntu 12.10 after I updated https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/832681
[11:19] <packetfrog> There you go :P
[11:19] <packetfrog> Its a bug.
[11:19] <Great_Day> baumy: You can also download the wlan drivers for your ubuntu system and install them manual
[11:20] <baumy> Great_Day: ive been trying to do that for a while, all ive gotten is a lot of dependency errors and zero progress =/
[11:21] <baumy> Great_Day: i am pretty sure this is the package i need but i cant get it to install http://ppa.launchpad.net/canonical-kernel-team/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-meta/linux-backports-modules-cw-3.6-precise-generic_3.2.0.38.46_amd64.deb
[11:21] <guest-8qkU2m> packetfrog: the bug is about Ubuntu 11.something. Im running 12.10 and it ran fine until yesterday. someone managed to break it - reintroducing the bug
[11:21] <nikolam> After installing again xubuntu 12.04 I am shocked how much bugs there is
[11:21] <Great_Day> baumy: that is pretty strange...
[11:22] <zenzi1982> ciao
[11:22] <zenzi1982> !list
[11:22] <nikolam> I was even thinking my hardware is the problem or something
[11:22] <Great_Day> You could try to use your mobile phone ( guess you have one)
[11:22] <Great_Day> and use it as for tethering baumy
[11:22] <baumy> Great_Day: tried dpkg -i <nameofthing>.deb, didnt work
[11:22] <Great_Day> then let Ubuntu do the job for you
[11:22] <baumy> and i have a dumbphone
[11:22] <Great_Day> great...
[11:23] <napster> Phone OS downloads isn't available yet?
[11:23] <baumy> yeah im stuck, hence why im here
[11:23] <Great_Day> napster: no
[11:23] <napster> ok
[11:23] <Great_Day> napster: should come today for gnexus
[11:23] <Great_Day> baumy: hmm... let's see...
[11:23] <napster> So who all have a gnex here? :) I'm having one
[11:23] <n00b_dust> any possibility of dual booting with android and phone OS after its out?
[11:23] <nikolam> I tried using firestarter ... errors. I am trying using gufw... ufw crashes and reports bugs..
[11:23] <n00b_dust> napster me too, but I don't wanna remove my android for it :P
[11:24] <Great_Day> depends on your phone nikolam
[11:24] <nikolam> Great_Day, i am on desktop, x86
[11:24] <napster> n00b_dust: We can replace it once the experiments are over :)
[11:24] <nikolam> oh, I would like to go to #xubuntu instead, here is too frequent chat.
[11:24] <n00b_dust> yeah, i guess it will take a few more months till its stable enough
[11:24] <Great_Day> nikolam: depends on your phone, if there are mods for running roms dualboot (like mine has, o2x), then you can...
[11:24] <napster> Do we have a dedicated channel or everybody hangs over here?
[11:24] <egyDev|work> Hello guys is there's any statistics about Ubuntu usage from unique ips that download or update or something ?
[11:25] <bazhang> napster, #ubuntu-phone
[11:25] <nikolam> Great_Day, restate your answer to someone else, I am not on the phone.
[11:25] <napster> all right. I'm heading to #ubuntu-phone
[11:25] <Great_Day> nikolam: you don't need to be
[11:26] <nikolam> Great_Day, pls I a was not asking anything about phone, thanks.
[11:27] <Great_Day> nikolam: sorry, my bad
[11:27] <timhansen> any update on the touch developer preview release?
[11:28] <bazhang> !tablet | timhansen
[11:28] <guest-8qkU2m> ill try to reinstall some stuff. hopefully ill be back later
[11:29] <alkisg> When I run `/usr/games/tuxtype`, I get "Error opening file for reading: Permission denied".
[11:29] <alkisg> When I run `strace -e trace=file /usr/games/tuxtype`, I no longer get the error!!!
[11:29] <alkisg> Any ideas on how to make strace reproduce the problem, or any other method to see which file is tuxtype trying to open?
[11:30] <alkisg> That file is suid root:games, btw
[11:33] <baumy> Great_Day: my kernel is 3.5.0-17-generic (running ubuntu 12.10 server), i think i may have gotten something 3.2ish instead, could that be screwing things up/
[11:33] <baumy> im fairly inexperienced with things like this
[11:34] <Fly80> hello
[11:42] <root__> jkjk
[11:42] <root__> j
[11:43] <root__> ping
[11:43] <Myrtti> root__: yes?
[11:45] <root__> im using backtrack 5r3...can you help me,.??
[11:46] <DJones> !backtrack | root__
[11:46] <Myrtti> root__: a) don't use the root account b) read the documentation c) no.
[11:46] <Great_Day> baumy: I am also pretty inexperienced with something like that, I also run out of ideas, to be honest..
[11:47] <ibra2513> hello there I got some probleme with my wifi card  help please ?
[11:47] <baumy> Great_Day: i managed to get the linux-backports-modules-cw-3.6-3.5.0-17-generic_3.5.0-17.1_amd64.deb package installed, and ran sudo modprobe alx...and nothing happened
[11:47] <baumy> i am still confused but slightly optimistic
[11:47] <Great_Day> Have you installed Ubuntu on it before baumy ?
[11:49] <vincent> nick Vin100|Work
[11:49] <baumy> Great_Day: on this machine? no
[11:50] <baumy> ifconfig doesn't show an eth0, only l0, so the driver isnt claiming the device..?
[11:50] <Great_Day> baumy: maybe you should get back to the latest lts version and try to get your updates from there...
[11:50] <Guest52478> anyone here familiar with expect scripting?
[11:51] <Great_Day> baumy: kind of, it means it doesn't recognize it, that could be because of the not installed drivers
[11:51] <Guest52478> i installed the expect package but it didnt come with the spawn command
[11:51] <Guest52478> it keeps saying "spawn: command not found"
[11:51] <jhello> may i ask a question please
[11:52] <jhello> i have already installed libapache2-mod-python,but there is no /etc/apache2/mods-available/mod_python.load
[11:52] <jhello>  could you tell me how to fix it?
[11:52] <phschwartz> I have a custom network configuration (2 vlan'ed nics) that I want to setup on install for a set of servers. Currently I am installing and then hand editing /etc/network/interfaces after the first boot. Is there a way for me to edit this durring the install along with adding 8021q to /etc/modules?
[12:03] <Civella> who wants to be my friend
[12:05] <JohnFlux> Hi all
[12:06] <JohnFlux> I've got a new Lenovo laptop which has secure boot etc.  And I can't boot or install linux
[12:06] <OrgMental> you should be able to disable it in the BIOS
[12:06] <JohnFlux> OrgMental: I switched from EUFI to legacy mode
[12:07] <OrgMental> http://blog.fpmurphy.com/2012/09/lenovo-t430-t530-now-support-uefi-secure-boot.html
[12:07] <JohnFlux> but it still doesn't boot from the hard disk.  If I try booting from a CD, I get the CD menu, but then nothing after that
[12:08] <SixtyFold> When you sudo rm -r /thisdirectory .... after this permanently removes a file or folderm, what is left per se? whatever you removed is still on the drive correct? it's just that the "pointer" to it is gone and obviously it's not in the trash can either, yes?
[12:08] <JohnFlux> OrgMental: It might be related to:  http://linux.slashdot.org/story/12/11/16/1414251/lenovo-uefi-bug-only-likes-windows-and-rhel
[12:09] <OrgMental> yeah, maybe
[12:11] <A_J> question. Ubuntu 12.04 dual boot with windows 8 what os goes first ?
[12:11] <SixtyFold> windows 8
[12:11] <xsoh> Guys when I try to install the Nvidia version expermintal-310 and reboot I get black screen...any ideas? by the way I've Nvidia GTX 670
[12:12] <A_J> okie SixtyFold i'm thinking 40gb for win8 | 40gb for ubuntu rest for storage. so the storage partition would be ntfs ?
[12:12] <SixtyFold> A_J - no matter what version of windows it is, you always install windows first
[12:12]  * A_J nods
[12:12] <JohnFlux> OrgMental: Booting with acpi=off  works
[12:12] <SixtyFold> NFTS would be fine
[12:12] <OrgMental> JohnFlux, good to know
[12:13] <A_J> okie mate SixtyFold thank you :)
[12:13] <SixtyFold> np
[12:13] <JohnFlux> OrgMental: after turning off eufi etc in the bios of course
[12:13] <A_J> one more thing. what gui would you recommend other than unity ?
[12:13] <OrgMental> well figured you did that part first as well, just didn't think ACPI would have made a difference these days
[12:14] <SixtyFold> LXDE, if you dont care about having nothing fancy
[12:14] <SixtyFold> in whch case you shoould just go download lubuntu anyhow not ubuntu
[12:14] <A_J> i use LXDE on my netbook. for a desktop pc perhaps xde ?
[12:15] <SixtyFold> im using lubuntu right now personally b/c i dont need 'snap' on this particular install
[12:15] <SixtyFold> if you need compiz features, dont use Lubuntu probably
[12:16] <SixtyFold> XFCE is another option
[12:16] <SixtyFold> but my OCD wont let me use that b/c i hate the damn mascot
[12:16] <SixtyFold> hahha
[12:16] <A_J> lol
[12:16] <dr_willis> it has a mascot?
[12:16] <SixtyFold> yes
[12:16] <SixtyFold> some disgusting looking mouse
[12:16] <A_J> mouse..
[12:17] <dr_willis> m i c    k e y    ..  :-D
[12:17] <btorch> is there a way to get rid of "debconf: unable to initialize frontend: Dialog" ? it happens when installing pkgs over dsh
[12:17] <dr_willis> cant say ive used xfce much.
[12:18] <dr_willis> dsh? you mean ssh?
[12:18] <SixtyFold> xfce is light
[12:18] <btorch> no I mean using dsh
[12:18] <dr_willis> install the dialog package perhaps.
[12:19] <dr_willis> theres an env setting to define how apt is supposed do dialog/user inputs.. but its been years since ive  tweaked that.
[12:20] <SixtyFold> When you sudo rm -r /thisdirectory .... after this permanently removes a file or folderm, what is left per se? whatever you removed is still on the drive correct? it's just that the "pointer" to it is gone and obviously it's not in the trash can either, yes?
[12:21] <dr_willis> SixtyFold: i think the term is it 'unlinks' the data
[12:21] <dr_willis> saw that in some kernel guide years ago
[12:21] <btorch> dr_willis: cool I'll look around thanks
[12:22] <dr_willis> has some old kernel biik. typeset in troff. must have been 12 yrs old.
[12:23] <JohnFlux> How usable is ubuntu 13.04 ?
[12:23] <JohnFlux> I need the newer kernel to boot my laptop properly
[12:24] <dr_willis> betas can break daily..
[12:26] <Civella> Can you buy laptops without an OS installed?
[12:28] <dr_willis> Civella: i imagine so
[12:28] <dr_willis> or get linux on them
[12:30] <cads-builder> hey guys, I'm having trouble loading the ndiswrapper module in 12.04
[12:31] <cads-builder> I can't modprobe ndiswrapper, or ndiswrapper-1.9
[12:32] <cads-builder> I try to build it from source, but it failts to compile because of an error in /usr/src/module/ndiswrapper/ndis.c
[12:32] <cads-builder> it all has to do with a struck called kernel)stat that apparently has no member named cpustat :)
[12:32] <cads-builder> I'm going to try to grep the code
[12:34] <Civella> dr_willis: where are you from? i figured you'd be sleeping by now
[12:37] <luminous> hello, here is an upstart config for logstash, pretty basic: http://dpaste.de/7phHf/
[12:38] <luminous> I can run logstash in the exact way outlined by the config, and logstash will work fine. but starting through upstart eventually results in logstash closing and being respawned
[12:38] <vnc786> do hdmi need some extra thing ? i have just attached my new LED with HDMI cable but i cannot see my bios nor DE ??
[12:38] <turtle_> I'm looking for hosting options for my web platform, something either low cost or free with high availability and ssh/sql access
[12:40] <makara> turtle_, hostmonster
[12:40] <mote> Hi. -Need some advice. before i wiped windows and installed Ubuntu i made some thinkpad recovery USB drive. Now i wanna make a backup of the drive. What app can i use to make i backup image of the drive??
[12:41] <vnc786> i have simply connected hdmi but no display is coming how do i troubleshoot
[12:41] <turtle_> do you happen to know if they provide database access?
[12:41] <turtle_> vnc, have you tried cycling displays?
[12:42] <packetfrog> mote http://serverfault.com/questions/141283/how-to-clone-a-usb-flash-drive-using-dd
[12:42] <turtle_> VNC, is this a laptop?
[12:42] <luminous> mote: dd? or something gui?
[12:42] <mote> Prefer gui. -i'm a bit stupid
[12:42] <packetfrog> mote that was a guide...
[12:42] <makara> turtle_, they got everything
[12:42] <vnc786> no its a desktop MB make gigaybyte ga-e350n
[12:43] <packetfrog> its one command..
[12:44] <turtle_> VNC, Have you tried turning off the display it's connected to i.e the TV or switching between inputs?
[12:44] <mote> I see it now.
[12:44] <packetfrog> make sure to find YOUR devices and replace them in the command..
[12:44] <packetfrog> Guide was a bad choice of words also  its a forum
[12:45] <vnc786> turtle_: i don't know abt cycling displays but i cannot see anything on my screen . It is connected directly from motherboard to LED thru HDMI cable
[12:45] <mote> packetfrog are dd in the repoes
[12:45] <tulliana> hi all
[12:45] <mote> packetfrog: thanks
[12:45] <packetfrog> I would assume it is on your system already.
[12:46] <tulliana> my printer model toshiba e-studio352
[12:46] <mote> packetfrog: think so. thank you
[12:46] <vnc786> turtle_:  i cannot see even my bios ...
[12:46] <tulliana> out put
[12:46] <tulliana> error invalidfont offendingcommand definefont
[12:46] <packetfrog> np
[12:47] <tulliana> print error
[12:47] <tulliana> help me please
[12:47] <tulliana> error invalidfont offendingcommand definefont
[12:48] <BASED_GOD> hi, my mouse is a little laggy. i use a trackpad, any suggestions?
[12:48] <jimmy_lo> Hi all, I try to use nautilus to connect to a server but a dialog pops out telling me that "Can't load the supported method list. Please check your gvfs installation."
[12:49] <jimmy_lo> Someone suggests use apt-get to reinstall gvfs-backend
[12:49] <jimmy_lo> I've tried but without solving this problem.
[12:49] <jimmy_lo> Do I need reboot?
[12:50] <phschwartz> What is the best channel to ask about deb packaging?
[12:50]  * _goxxsy_ dobar dan drugari ! :-) :D
[12:51] <jrib> phschwartz: #ubuntu-packaging and #ubuntu-motu
[12:51] <phschwartz> jrib: ty
[12:52] <DJones> !serbian | _goxxsy_
[12:53] <bubba_ray> Hi guys, just upgraded to 3.2.0-38 on my 12.04 and it looks as if it broke my ps (pgrep and so on). When using ps it breaks down in terminal on me (sig term 11). Anyone else that have an up-to-date 12.04 that would be so kind to test?
[12:54] <tulliana> help please https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/foundations-bugs/2012-April/079943.html
[12:59] <tomahawks> hi can someone help me
[12:59] <tomahawks> "could not open password file"
[12:59] <packetfrog> !ask
[12:59] <tomahawks> ../et/apache/htpasswd
[12:59] <_goxxsy_> Thanks ubottu
[12:59] <manish> !patience
[13:00] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:02] <decayingcorpse> anyone able to help with MCE keyboard on 12.04? having troubles
[13:07] <marahin> hum
[13:07] <packetfrog> muh
[13:07] <marahin> my CPU usage during x11vnc server working goes up to 100%
[13:07] <marahin> any clues why? :G
[13:07] <packetfrog> that is not nice.
[13:07] <marahin> indeeed.
[13:07] <packetfrog> what kind of cpu
[13:07] <marahin> uh, let me check.
[13:08] <packetfrog> just in general... :)
[13:08] <marahin> in general it's Mobile Intel CPU with 2 cores 2.2GHz
[13:08] <marahin> cat /proc/cpuinfo |grep 'model' brings 2x: model name      : Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU B960 @ 2.20GHz
[13:09] <packetfrog> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1716763
[13:09] <packetfrog> You can try that
[13:10] <marahin> I've seen that thread few weeks ago, afair didn't help at all
[13:10] <marahin> but I'll give it a try in a moment.
[13:10] <marahin> oh, nvm.
[13:10] <marahin> I'm using few of those flags already. :P
[13:11] <marahin> yup.
[13:11] <marahin> marahin@sp4wn:~$ cat ~/bin/vnc
[13:11] <marahin> x11vnc -usepw -nobell -noxdamage -noxrecord -noxfixes -desktop sp4wn
[13:12] <marahin> Afair I've also tried the -nofb flag, although then Xs didn't load @ the remote session that tried to connect.
[13:15] <ohmy> hi all
[13:16] <packetfrog> marahin  try another video driver?
[13:16] <marahin> uh?
[13:16] <ohmy> i was reading http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/gomobile/ and set up qt5, i have some issues now with Qt creator which displays less project types but also can't set up correctly my projects, for example when i call qt5-qmake the project will still include qt4 include files
[13:16] <marahin> It's an integrated GPU afaik :P And the drivers came OOTB with Ubuntu
[13:16] <ohmy> qtchooser fails with qtchooser: could not exec '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/bin/qtchooser': No such file or directory
[13:17] <packetfrog> marahin  I was just reading people having similar issues  but using diff drivers helped...   :P
[13:17] <marahin> mhm
[13:17] <marahin> Meh then, I'll work on it later then, cheers for help though. :P
[13:18] <packetfrog> Better luck next time.
[13:18] <marahin> thanks
[13:19] <packetfrog> ohmy  you might try #qt
[13:20] <ohmy> packetfrog: yes, but since i've not used their binary and haven't built it from source (using ubuntu link) it may be more interesting to ask here, especially when ubuntu promotes mobile developement
[13:22] <ryu> Hi
[13:22] <packetfrog> ohmy I seem to be the only one alive in here is all i meant.. :)
[13:23] <packetfrog> hello ryu guest...
[13:23] <ohmy> packetfrog: :)
[13:23] <ohmy> packetfrog: qtchooser is not working as expected and something is going wrong with qt5-qmake
[13:25] <darent> hi
[13:26] <tomahawks> hi, why this dont get password from httpd.. .saying error ? it it in .htacces and need to give rights. so where do i found this htacces and what  should i write there ?
[13:27] <tomahawks> or is it anything like that or different problem ?
[13:31] <belgianguy> what's the easiest way to create a bootable USB of another linux distro in Ubuntu?
[13:31] <belgianguy> in my case: CentOS 6.3
[13:31] <Malsasa> Hello, anybody knows how USC read copyright file from DEB package?
[13:31] <Malsasa> belgianguy: Unetbootin
[13:31] <DJones> belgianguy: unetbootin is probably the easiest
[13:31] <Malsasa> belgianguy: use that software
[13:31] <bubba_ray> Hi guys, just upgraded to 3.2.0-38 on my 12.04 and it looks as if it broke my ps (pgrep and so on). When using ps it breaks down in terminal on me (sig term 11). Anyone else that have an up-to-date 12.04 that would be so kind to test?
[13:31] <belgianguy> ah, thanks Malsasa DJones
[13:32] <DJones> belgianguy: or the builtin start up disk creator (not sure how that deals with non-ubuntu iso's though)
[13:32] <belgianguy> DJones: yeah, my CentOS iso didn't show up there :(
[13:32] <belgianguy> (when I browsed to it)
[13:33] <Malsasa> Hello, anybody knows how USC read copyright file from DEB package? I create a DEB by borrowing another DEB structure plus duplicate another DEB copyright, but my DEB's license doesn't appear in USC whereas another DEB's license appear.
[13:34] <Malsasa> belgianguy: Unetbootin even can make liveusb bootable for Hiren's Boot CD. I have tested Unetbootin for Fedora, Blankon, Ubuntu, Debian, and some other ISO.
[13:35] <dr_willis> hmm
[13:35] <vnc786> i have two LCD. both are connected 2 my motherboard(single). my requirement is what is going on my one screen should be viewed at other ? is this possible
[13:36] <dr_willis> vnc786:  should be possible.  depends on the chipset and driver..
[13:36] <vnc786> LCD #1 is connected with VGA and LCD #2 with VGA
[13:36] <dr_willis> and the video chipset is?
[13:36] <npf_> hello all
[13:37] <Malsasa> npf_: hello...
[13:37] <Quest> regarding http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14990973/tomcat7-and-apache2-on-ubuntu-in-integration-with-some-sort-of-proxy , what modes exactly do I need?
[13:38] <npf_> here is my question. I have a serer which is at this moment moving files from its self to another location. How do I check the progress of the process remotly
[13:38] <vnc786> dr_willis: how do i find that..lspci gives no output dmesg give nothing appropriate
[13:39] <phschwartz> While doing an install, can I go to a console using alt+f2 and modify a config file that was installed?
[13:39] <Robin> Hi all
[13:40] <belgianguy> Malsasa: thanks, that worked really nice!
[13:40] <nsahoo> hi .. got a warning that the root filesystem is running out of space. However, ubuntu seems to be thinking that the home folder is taking space from / , it's on a separate mounted disk partition with lots of space. How do I fix this warning?
[13:41] <Robin> I don't know if anyone can help me. I'm thinking of moving to ubuntu on my acer happy netbook which orignally came with windows 7 starter and android (dual boot). Problem is I don't want to lose the partition and option to restore it back to windows and android. Does anyone know how I can get round that?
[13:41] <npf_> I can log into the system fine but thats going to be on a different terminal
[13:42] <Quest> anyone using ubuntu any apache?
[13:42] <just187> Robin: make a backup first :)
[13:42] <npf_> yes whats up
[13:43] <Robin> Good idea Just187 ;)
[13:44] <LaserShark> (test)
[13:45] <npf_> annnyone have any ideas
[13:45] <dr_willis> a netbook that came with android from the store? weird
[13:47] <DJones> dr_willis: I seem to remember there were a few machines like that, can't remember the manufacturer though
[13:47] <Quest> anyone using ubuntu any apache?
[13:47] <Quest> anyone using ubuntu with*apache?
[13:47] <kevdog> nsahoo: df -h | pastebinit
[13:47] <jpds> Quest: I imagine a lot of people are.
[13:48] <Quest> jpds,  need help with this regarding http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14990973/tomcat7-and-apache2-on-ubuntu-in-integration-with-some-sort-of-proxy , what modes exactly do I need?
[13:50] <SixtyFold> is there a ubuntu that starts you out with nothing like arch kinda and you can jsut install openbox or something so you have primarily CLI and then firefox for web browsing as your only GUI anything?
[13:50] <DJones> !minimal | SixtyFold
[13:52] <jch2os> I have an ubuntu 12.04 box that I'm using as a backup server(BackupPC), It has a fairly large filesystem and takes awhile to reboot because I have fstab set to 1 in the 6th column.  Should I change that? Or is that standard?
[13:53] <mdh> debian is kinda like arch in that you can pick what you want to install in the installer
[13:53] <nibbler> jch2os: its not dfault i'd say.... but well... what fs?
[13:54] <jch2os> ext4
[13:54] <jch2os> ok I wasn't 100% sure, it was a physical machine and then I made it into a KVM vm and I think I modified it along the way.  I'll set it back to 0 :)
[13:55] <nibbler> jch2os: use tune2fs to set parameters on how often to scan etc.....
[13:56] <mdh> jch2os whats the inode usage on that drive
[13:56] <jch2os> mdh, how do I check that?
[13:56] <rambo3> there used to be so much trafick in here some 7 years ago
[13:56] <mdh> jch2os df -i
[13:57] <jch2os> mdh - ok give it a minute to finish running :)
[13:59] <CatKiller> Hi there! I've got a worrying problem on Ubuntu server 9.10 (i386 flavour): iSCSI exports using LIO (linux-iscsi.org) built on an IBlock backstore cause a massive memory usage (gigabytes) when running reads until the free mem runs out and OOM killer is invoked
[13:59] <jch2os> this is what df -i says, /dev/sda1      22896640 4362248 18534392   20% /
[13:59] <CatKiller> The memory goes down but the "Inactive" memory does not go up (no page cache!)
[14:00] <CatKiller> Nor do any other counters in /proc/meminfo for that matter
[14:00] <CatKiller> Writes are fine
[14:00] <CatKiller> And only the lowmem goes down. Once it is empty OOM killer is called. The swap is never used
[14:00] <mdh> jch2os: i've heard of problems with fsck and stuff that can happen with large numbers of hard links
[14:01] <CatKiller> Funny thing is that I can't find anybody who seems to have the same issue
[14:01] <jch2os> mdh - oh ok, so maybe that is why I'm having issues then
[14:01] <jch2os> but default is 0 in fstab, is that correct?
[14:01] <CatKiller> Because basically LIO iSCSI on Ubuntu is completely broken. Does that mean that nobody uses it?
[14:01] <JohnFlux> I have 12.10 installed, but there is there a way to install the latest kernel?
[14:02] <JohnFlux> my laptop doesn't work well without it
[14:02] <CatKiller> you can do "sudo apt-get install linux-image"
[14:02] <CatKiller> and press tab
[14:02] <CatKiller> to autocomplete
[14:03] <just187> JohnFlux: to use the latest stable kernel do a apt-get upgrade and apt-get update afterwards
[14:03] <CatKiller> you'll see the list of available kernels
[14:03] <CatKiller> or that
[14:03] <CatKiller> even better
[14:03] <just187> :D
[14:03] <CatKiller> I would do apt-get update before
[14:03] <vith> update first, then upgrade
[14:03] <just187> ups .. yes :)
[14:04] <CatKiller> So nobody has heard of LIO iSCSI target issues (OOM issues) by any chance?
[14:04] <Quest> hi, i dont see mod_proxy_ajp nor mod_proxy in mods-available dir of apache 2. any solution?
[14:04] <just187> Cat: no :(
[14:04] <CatKiller> No problem
[14:04] <CatKiller> Going to debug it the hard way :)
[14:04] <CatKiller> But it's not easy
[14:05] <CatKiller> or rather it's extremely hard
[14:05] <just187> maybe you should think about using solaris for massive storage and iscsi :)
[14:09] <universal> Hi charis
[14:09] <JohnFlux> CatKiller: just187:  But those will only be the latest stable images in 12.10, no?  Would 13.04 have newer stable kernels?
[14:09] <CatKiller> That's true
[14:09] <CatKiller> You want the latest latest?
[14:09] <CatKiller> as in 3.8?
[14:10] <universal> Hi to all
[14:11] <CatKiller> you'll probably have to compile it
[14:11] <JohnFlux> CatKiller: thanks
[14:11] <CatKiller> Unless somebody has made a .deb package for it
[14:11] <CatKiller> that you could try
[14:11] <CatKiller> However I really don't necessarily recommend any of that
[14:11] <CatKiller> it might crash
[14:11] <CatKiller> so many things can go wrong
[14:12] <CatKiller> you can always roll back I guess
[14:12] <just187> yep .. whats wrong with the latest for 12.10 ?
[14:12] <CatKiller> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[14:14] <mtrg> hello. cat /etc/resolv.conf is always pointing nameserver to 127.0.0.1; how can i make it point to DNS servers instead?
[14:14] <mtrg> i.e. put whatever DNS servers DHCP negotiation suggests
[14:15] <nibbler> latest kernel (3.8) has some bugs with several dkms modules (fglrx, virtualbox, ...) (easy to fix thou)
[14:15] <just187> nameserver 208.67.222.222 for opendns for examnple
[14:15] <kaiserfarrell> hi
[14:15] <just187> nibbler: really? im using 3.8 with virtualbox ... any more infos?
[14:16] <nibbler> just187: its just some symbol that got removed, you'd have to replace it by some other code, 1 mo
[14:16] <brian_> Hi all, what does 'dock' mean when we talk about docking a phone? I'm asking cause I am curious about using my smartphone to control my laptop via bluetooth.
[14:17] <just187> dock = connect
[14:17] <kaiserfarrell> I'm using dell inspiron 5420,.. but i got problem with battery...
[14:17] <brian_> So, if my phone is paired with my laptop, I can say it's 'docked'?
[14:18] <nibbler> just187: https://glumpundzeug.wordpress.com/2013/01/16/ubuntu-12-10-von-bcached-crypted-booten-teil-1-bcache-zum-laufen-bekommen/ - that is discussing the problems for fglrx, same issue (and fix) with virtualbox
[14:18] <kaiserfarrell> dell inspiron 5420 power issue
[14:19] <brian_> just187 So, if my phone is paired with my laptop, I can say it's 'docked'?
[14:19] <DJones> brian_: You're probably better asking the question in #ubuntu-phone hopefully they'll be able to give you a more technical/detailed answer
[14:21] <mtrg> guns i need halp. you are terrible
[14:22] <mtrg> cat /etc/resolv.conf only shows "nameserver 127.0.0.1" <- i hate this
[14:22] <jpds> mtrg: Yeah, and?
[14:22] <mtrg> i want ubuntuto populate resolv.conf with DNS servers from DHCP negotiatoin
[14:22] <brian_> Thanks DJones
[14:22] <jpds> mtrg: It does that.
[14:22] <RZAFC> I've come to the conclusion that wicd is garbage
[14:22] <auronandace> !resolvconf | mtrg
[14:22] <DJones> !volunteer | mtrg Saying support here is terrible isn't likely to help you get support,
[14:22] <jpds> mtrg: On a dnsmasq level.
[14:23] <mtrg> auronandace: how to fix it by resolvconf?
[14:24] <mtrg> resolvconf seems to be somehow setup to add 127..0.1 instead of DNS servers that DHCP suggests
[14:24] <mtrg> rm -r /etc/resolvconf
[14:24] <just187> lol
[14:24] <mtrg> did it
[14:25] <llutz> mtrg: if you don't like it, "gksudo gedit /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf"  change it into "#dns=dnsmasq"
[14:25] <llutz> mtrg: sudo restart network-manager
[14:26] <mtrg> llutz: i fixed it by rm -r the hell out of /etc/resovconf
[14:26] <mtrg> restarted network-manager . boom. worked.
[14:26] <llutz> mtrg: you havent fixed anything this way
[14:27] <just187> definitly not a fix
[14:27] <AtuM> mtrg, echo 1 > /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq && echo b > /proc/sysrq-trigger
[14:27] <cads-builder> hey guys, I'm trying to get the linksys ae2500 usb wireless adaptor working with ndiswrapper.
[14:27] <mtrg> AtuM: why
[14:27] <mtrg> just187: why
[14:27] <cads-builder> I am in ubuntu 12.04
[14:27] <AtuM> 4fun
[14:28] <llutz> AtuM: stop that nonsense
[14:28] <cads-builder> I manage to install the driver correctly, but iwconfig doesn't notice the adaptor
[14:28] <just187> you just deleted a wrong configuration ... insteed of doing it right ... at some point you will run into other problems
[14:28] <RZAFC> is there anyway to get wicd to obtain an ip address easier?
[14:35] <dat789> Hi! A quick question on the tail command. I frequently use the -f follow option, but have to ctrl+c to end it. I begin to wonder if there is another way other than killing it by ctrl+c.
[14:36] <llutz> dat789: no
[14:37] <dat789> llutz: ...that's the only way? *no surprise)
[14:37] <llutz> dat789: yes, it doesn't accept any input so you have to kill it the hard way
[14:38] <llutz> dat789: line ifconfig (without -c) and lots other
[14:39] <llutz> like*
[14:42] <nibbler> dat789: its supposed to be like this.... and it won't be angry
[14:42] <dat789> nibbler: some things are meant to be killed.. and it's perfectly okay.
[14:42] <dat789> nibbler: lol!
[14:43] <emarnau> does any one think ubuntu is the new redhat
[14:43] <kostkon> !ot | emarnau
[14:43] <llutz> we think that is offtopic here, #ubuntu-offtopic pls
[14:43] <emarnau> sorry
[14:43] <meet> how to enable two touch scrolling? or other touchpad gestures?12.04
[14:51] <flcl> meet: what device are you using?
[14:52] <meet> dell inspiron n5110
[14:52] <tulliana> hi all
[14:52] <tulliana> printer error problem
[14:52] <tulliana> output : error invalidfont offendingcommand definefont
[14:52] <meet> flcl: inspiron n5110
[14:53] <tulliana> output paper text to error invalidfont offendingcommand definefont
[14:53] <tulliana> help please
[14:53] <tulliana> my printer toshiba e-studio352
[14:54] <jakey> Hi, my evince pdf viewer has crashed how to I close it
[14:54] <kingbeast> jakey, you can open system monitor and find it under the process tab and end the process
[14:55] <jakey> Thanks
[14:56] <angs> I formated a usb stick via Gparted tool, but it request root privilege to copy files into it. how can I change its user group permanently?
[14:56] <dr_willis> angs: what fs
[14:56] <angs> ext3
[14:57] <dr_willis> !permissions
[14:57] <johnflux_> How do I install sun-java6-jdk on 12.10 please?
[14:57] <dr_willis> chown/chmod the mountpoint to be owned by your user angs
[14:57] <dr_willis> after its mounted.
[14:58] <angs> thank you dr_willis
[14:58] <kingbeast> JohnFlux, pm sent
[15:00] <johnflux_> kingbeast: thanks - I saw that but I wasn't clear on whether oracle-java6 was the same as sun-java6
[15:00] <johnflux_> kingbeast: I mean, I'm sure they are pretty similar, but it's not going to muck up my package dependencies etc right?
[15:00] <kingbeast> shouldn't
[15:01] <kingbeast> johnflux_, it should do fine, is it not in the software center?
[15:01] <datruth> Anyone use firehol for ipv6?
[15:09] <hp_> ใช้ภาษาไทยได้ป่าว
[15:10] <helmut_> hi
[15:10] <hp_> เข้าห้องคนไทยยังไง
[15:10] <DJones> !english | hp_
[15:10] <hp_> หาห้องเพิ่มยังไง
[15:12] <DJones> hp_: Please join #ubuntu-th for Ubuntu in Thailand
[15:13] <pje335_NL> join #ubuntu-nl
[15:18] <deeste> Hello
[15:19] <AaronMT> ETA on tablet images?
[15:19] <DJones> !tablet | AaronMT
[15:20] <deeste> If I copy files from a samba share to an external hdd and then do "du -s ..." on both the directories. Shouldn't they show the same size then?
[15:20] <Vivekananda> Hey everyone. I had pdftk installed but I tried upgrading once. Due to insufficient space in /home the upgrade reverted. NOw I dont have pdftk. On trying to install I am getting dependency issues
[15:20] <NinjaTomate> Hey guys, from 1-10, how terrible is wubi, 10 being Windows ME?
[15:21] <kostkon> NinjaTomate, 6
[15:21] <DJones> !poll | NinjaTomate
[15:21] <SuperLag> I am unsuccessful at getting fonts installed with Font Viewer, on a consistent basis. Every single install either fails, or Font Viewer crashes. I just want to get these fonts installed. Is there an alternative method?
[15:21] <wellington_> i never use it
[15:22] <seven> I am undoubtedly not the first persion to ask this but does anyone know the drop time of the ubuntu touch dev release
[15:22] <Vivekananda> anyone ?
[15:22] <SuperLag> wellington_: was that in reply to me?
[15:23] <DJones> seven: Ask in #ubuntu-tablet they may have an idea
[15:23] <wellington_> SuperLag, was about wubi
[15:24] <compdoc> deeste, it depends on the way the drives were formatted. Some use a different sector size so that small files will seem bigger on one drive than another
[15:29] <deeste> compdoc: ah, ok. Any way around that?
[15:31] <Mrokii> Hello. How can I find out which resolusions Grub supports? I want to set a higher resolution for Grub and TTYs.
[15:35] <dr_willis> Mrokii: the /etc/default/grub  file shows a command to use
[15:35] <Mrokii> dr_willis: That command isn't available. I've tried that.
[15:35] <dr_willis> grub res does not affect the framebuffer consoles res
[15:36] <dr_willis> its a command at the grub shell.. not bash
[15:36] <Mrokii> I see.
[15:36] <Mrokii> http://blog.mattrudge.net/2012/10/02/changing-the-tty-resolution-on-ubuntu-server/ -> That's the link I found.
[15:37] <merryman540> how do I get to the linux mint help chat room from here?
[15:37] <Ben64> !mint
[15:37] <Mrokii> And what are "framebuffer consoles"? The TTYs?
[15:37] <holstein> merryman540: i think all mint is on spotchat
[15:38] <holstein> !tty | Mrokii
[15:38] <Mrokii> holstein: Thanks.
[15:38] <dr_willis> console =alt ctrl f#
[15:38] <merryman540> holstein: thanks.
[15:38] <holstein> ^^ that resolution link is what i have noticed, though i run my servers "headless" and dont want/need to change the resolution
[15:39] <Mrokii> dr_willis: I know how to reach the TTYs I just didn't know the term "framebuffer console".
[15:39] <merryman540> so how do I get to spot chat from here (lol)?
[15:39] <dr_willis> framebuffer gives you the higher res on the consoles
[15:39] <dr_willis> !framebuffer
[15:40] <dr_willis> that guide may be out of date
[15:40] <dr_willis> bbl
[15:41] <holstein> merryman540: there should be documentation at the mint help sites.. but i just /connect to spotchat from my client.. you can ask "how can i connect to an irc server from xchat" or whatever client you are using
[15:43] <Noorideen> hola
[15:45] <NastyNaz> what are some awesome programs I can run in a terminal besides finch, alpine and irssi?
[15:46] <auronandace> NastyNaz: tmux and nano
[15:46] <boichev> Nach0z, screen
[15:46] <holstein> NastyNaz: i searched the repos for "ncurses" once
[15:47] <genii-around> NastyNaz: midnight commander
[15:47] <jimbox9000> Is there anyway to integrate celery with a job management system like TORQUE
[15:47] <boichev> NastyNaz, http://www.tuxarena.com/2011/06/15-great-tools-for-the-terminal/
[15:48] <genii-around> NastyNaz: Also links2 with svgalib or framebuffer  so you can browse with graphics from the console
[15:49] <boichev> genii-around, didn't know that links has a framebuffer version :) I will try that :)
[15:51] <genii-around> boichev: It doesn't have one built-in but if you're running in an xterm it uses X's framebuffer there. If you run only in CLI you can install a video driver with framebuffer instead
[15:53] <allu2> I read the ubuntu touch UI images for nexus 7 will be released today, any idea where they can be downloaded when the release happens?
[15:55] <DJones> allu2: Ask in #ubuntu-tablet they may have an idea
[15:55] <allu2> DJones: ah thank you :)
[15:57] <cellofellow> I have a Samba share to my raspberry pi XBMC box, and one particular folder all the files are only visible by their short 8.3 DOS-style filenames. Is there a way to turn of Samba's short filename mangling?
[15:58] <glphvgacs> where are the setting for xterm?
[15:59] <KamZou> Hi, any good way to cache LDAP credentials for laptop with ubuntu 10.10 ?
[16:02] <tix> Hi
[16:02] <tix> Im on android
[16:03] <Shizuo> I approve ubuntu
[16:03] <vincentS> glphvgacs, i did  find / -name *xterm* but found nothing
[16:03] <tix> Mad boring
[16:03] <tix> Fuck everyone in here
[16:04] <Shizuo> Agreed
[16:04] <DJones> tix: Stop that
[16:04] <holstein> tix: check the /topic, and consider /join an offtopic channel
[16:04] <OrgMental> cellofellow, try "mangled names = no"
[16:05]  * vincentS Wonders why some packages show up twice in the update list ?
[16:05] <OrgMental> cellofellow, if you want to read the deep dive :) --> http://oreilly.com/openbook/samba/book/ch05_04.html
[16:08] <Scarberian> hello
[16:09] <Scarberian> anyone familiar with deja dup or duplicity in general?
[16:10] <Shizuo> Scarberian: That's racist
[16:10] <Scarberian> hmm?
[16:11] <kostkon> ?
[16:11] <holstein> Scarberian: whats the issue?
[16:11] <Scarberian> I am about to do a first back up
[16:11] <Scarberian> ubunt 12.10, my private pc
[16:11] <Scarberian> do I back up /?
[16:12] <holstein> Scarberian: i would backup what you like, and what you want/need, and what you have room for
[16:12] <Scarberian> my root is 30 GB and my /home is 220GB
[16:12] <echinos> I'm using a virtualbox VM with windows inside to use go to meeting, but I have a horrible echo to the other people, and they can hear stuff that my ubunto host is playing
[16:12] <echinos> *ubuntu
[16:13] <Scarberian> I am doing lots tweaking, drivers etc so I would benefit from backing up / not so much my local directory?
[16:13] <holstein> echinos: i would just not play other stuff while in a meeting.. latency might just be introduced since its a VM
[16:14] <dcope> What's the channel for ubuntu phone?
[16:14] <holstein> dcope: #ubuntu-phone
[16:14] <dcope> holstein: thanks
[16:14] <holstein> Scarberian: i would expect to reinstall drivers
[16:14] <echinos> holstein: problem is skype bloops and stuff
[16:14] <echinos> and bad echo is happening even when I don't 'play' anything
[16:14] <echinos> even when not talking
[16:14] <Scarberian> backup wouldnt restore drivers?
[16:15] <sotiris> please i need a RAT for ubuntu
[16:15] <Shizuo> No rats here
[16:15] <holstein> Scarberian: i would expect to reinstall... or i might do a clone of the OS.. depends on what you want
[16:15] <Shizuo> We value community
[16:15] <holstein> !ot | Shizuo
[16:15] <echinos> rats are very...communal :)
[16:15] <Shizuo> holstein: Stop ratting out on people
[16:15] <glphvgacs> part
[16:15] <glphvgacs> opps
[16:16] <DJones> Shizuo: Stop wit hthe off-topic comments
[16:16] <brianbep> help! I updated Ubuntu to 12.04.1 to 12.04.2 and now when I boot, X doesn't start. ugh.
[16:16] <brianbep> however, I can login in tty1, run startx and everythign is ok, (except no unity)
[16:16] <brianbep> from /var/log/Xorg.0.log:
[16:16] <brianbep> Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module.
[16:16] <brianbep> Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
[16:16] <brianbep> I've sudo apt-get purge nvidia-current, rebooted and reinstalled.
[16:16] <FloodBot1> brianbep: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:16] <celocanth13> Can I get some help with something?
[16:16] <echinos> only if you ask
[16:16] <holstein> !ask celocanth13
[16:16] <Kitar|st> |
[16:16] <holstein> !ask | celocanth13
[16:17] <Shizuo> DJones: =[
[16:18] <holstein> brianbep: i saw someone with a similar issue... its not an issue with the graphics card, since, when X starts, all is well
[16:18] <phunyguy> hey everyone, I connect to an OpenVPN server with Ubuntu, and currently the server isn't set up to forward all client traffic through the tunnel, but can I explicitly tell the client to do it via the network-manager gui?
[16:18] <celocanth13> ok, whenever i open terminal and start typing nothing shows up, kind of like its black font on a black background, stuff still types but i can't see it.  Is this a known issue?
[16:18] <holstein> celocanth13: stuff? or passwords?
[16:18] <brianbep> holstein, yes. Interestingly, after X starts, there's no Unity interface, fwiw
[16:18] <rethus> my hdd on laptop always spin down, up, down up down up.... seems only be few seconds while the hdd run normaly, than spin down again
[16:19] <Touhou11> brianbep: Some would consider that an improvement
[16:19] <brianbep> holstein, any thoughts on what other log data I should look for.
[16:19] <brianbep> Touhou11, zing!
[16:19] <rethus> i have try hdparm -S 252 /dev/sda2, but got an error
[16:19] <celocanth13> holstein, command lines and such
[16:19] <holstein> brianbep: that could be driver related then.. i would try using the vesa driver to troubleshoot
[16:19] <rethus> HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(setidle) failed: Input/output error
[16:19] <rethus> any idea, what i can do?
[16:19] <datruth> Anyone use firehol for ipv6?
[16:19] <holstein> celocanth13: does *anything* show up? is it in the terminal from ubuntu?
[16:20] <brianbep> holstein, after removing nvidia-current (not replacing with anything), lightdm does come up successfully.
[16:20] <brianbep> also, from tty1 if i `service lightdm restart` (with the nvidia-current drivers) it starts
[16:20] <celocanth13> Holstein, yes its in the stock terminal, nothing shows up, I typed an install command and pressed enter, it appeared to be doing something but it doesnt show anything
[16:20] <Touhou11> rethus: Try "MHDD", it can check your drive, it might be failing
[16:20] <holstein> brianbep: so, it could be an incompatibility/bug with the proprietary driver and the kernel you have upgraded to
[16:21] <Touhou11> rethus: System Rescue CD contains MHDD, probably other ways to run it
[16:21] <holstein> celocanth13: i would try another terminal.. i would try as another user
[16:21] <brianbep> holstein, but after manually starting x (`startx` from tty1), modprobe nvidia works
[16:21] <celocanth13> ok, can i download another terminal throw the market (whatever its called)?
[16:22] <holstein> celocanth13: thats one troubleshooting step i suggest.. the other user as well
[16:22] <holstein> !tty | celocanth13
[16:23] <celocanth13> holstein, ubottu, ok thanks
[16:24] <andreas_> hello everyone! does anyone know if there is a channel for voyager?
[16:24] <Touhou11> andreas_: #startrek
[16:25] <andreas_> :P
[16:25] <andreas_> voyager os 12.10
[16:25] <flintser> my ubuntu crashes when copying files between hard disks. i want to copy my music (~80gb) to another hd. i've tried dd and copy
[16:25] <andreas_> its a french project
[16:25] <DJones> !alis | andreas_ Not one I've heard of, but the bot will help you search,
[16:25] <rethus> Touhou11: k. thanks
[16:25] <flintser> and cp
[16:25] <holstein> flintser: try moving something smaller.. try using grsync
[16:26] <celocanth15> this is an active channel
[16:27] <Shizuo> As active as a praying nun
[16:27] <holstein> !ot | Shizuo
[16:28] <flintser> holstein: i tried to move few files with nautilus and cp after first crash. afrer those failed i thought screw cp and tried dd.after that it crashed too.
[16:28] <Shizuo> Don't be mean
[16:28] <celocanth15> ive never used a channel with this many users
[16:28] <holstein> flintser: try smaller files.. try with grsync
[16:32] <flintser> dunno if few mp3 files are too big for it to handle :) grync crashed too. i cant do anything and whole system froze
[16:33] <holstein> flintser: crashed in what way? can you get to tty? can you copy to another location? another drive?
[16:35] <flintser> froze, cant go anywhere. cant go in tty. need to hard reset. i'll test copying files from another drive
[16:35] <samburg> hey guys where is daniel.holbach
[16:36] <vincentS> flintser, if you have the space try placing it in a image then place that image on ur new disk :S
[16:39] <SKC> #gimp
[16:41] <maslen> How can I edit the contents of the "Places" menu ?
[16:44] <Floepsie> Ola
[16:45] <Floepsie> my laptop on windows is very silent with the fans. But on ubuntu based system the fan will go on and spinning for 50% always how to bring that down to normal like windows does
[16:46] <vincentS> maslen, are you using Dolphin browser
[16:47] <maslen> vincentS: I'm using gnome-panel on ubuntu 12.10
[16:47] <ax562> ok...back...lol
[16:47] <takeyourhatoff> I have installed network-manager-pptp-gnome and network-manager-pptp, but the pptp option does not appear when adding a VPN, how can I fix this>
[16:48] <Floepsie> my laptop on windows is very silent with the fans. But on ubuntu based system the fan will go on and spinning for 50% always how to bring that down to normal like windows does
[16:48] <ax562> I have an intel duo core 2 x86 T7300 and was wondering which version of 12.04LTS to install
[16:48] <ax562> AMD, i386?
[16:48] <maslen> Floepsie: Windows probably has more efficient drivers, and things are just heating up.
[16:49] <ax562> and also whick version 12.04.1 or 12.04.2?
[16:49] <ax562> which
[16:49] <genii-around> ax562: amd64 ... it's a 64bit instruction set on that cpu
[16:49] <k1l> ax562: 12.04.2 is the latest version so you will not need to run all the updates to from 12.04.1 to 12.04.2
[16:49] <bean__> genii-around: i dont think so
[16:50] <bean__> he said x86
[16:50] <bean__> not x86_64
[16:50] <Quest> virtualhost and proxy for apache with tomcate config aid http://pastebin.ca/2316370   ?
[16:50] <k1l> t7300 is a 64bit dualcore cpu
[16:50] <ax562> yes
[16:50] <ax562> 64 bit
[16:50] <flintser> my partitions were screwed by the unfinished dd, holstein, maybe grsync failed because of that
[16:50] <yggdrasil> hello, I was wondering if anybody knew a way to install ubuntu to multiple drives at once.
[16:50] <k1l> bean__: im sure he meant x86 like "not ARM"
[16:51] <bean__> hm ok
[16:51] <bean__> then yes, amd64, 12.04.2.
[16:52] <ax562> lol...not sure why this always has to be the most confusing part
[16:52] <ax562> worst of all this should be the easiest so there is more users smh...
[16:52] <flintser> but i tried to reset it by fdisk and then mkfs. mkfs gets frozen but i can stop it. i have never used gpatted because it is always stuck at scanning devce. this has been always like this... :/
[16:52] <k1l> its just amd64 because its patented from amd. thats all. no matter if the cpu is from intel or amd
[16:52] <flintser> i have waited over 20 min once and it never started
[16:54] <ax562> my point is put a note or something
[16:54] <ax562> Imagine if it was this hard to install all other OS'...there wouldn't be anyone installing OS on their computers
[16:55] <vincentS> yggdrasil, dd if=/dev/sdX of=- | tee >(dd of=/dev/sdX) >(dd of=/dev/sdX) >(dd of=/dev/sdX) and more
[16:55] <SystemTyrant> how do I execute a command as root (like sudo) where the password is pulled from a file?
[16:55] <Quest> can anyone answer 3. in  http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14990973/tomcat7-and-apache2-on-ubuntu-in-integration-with-some-sort-of-proxy ?
[16:56] <Dogma666> brasil?
[16:56] <Dogma666> alguem do brasil?
[16:56] <btorch> anyone know what's up wih precise and syslog-ng for remote loggin ? I have tcp wrappers disabled, no iptables , I can telnet to the tcp port locally but from a remote box it just hangs
[16:57] <colin2030> precise pangolin running really slow on my powerbook G4. Any issues or should I try earlier version?
[16:57] <rkid> I can pair my bluetooth to my macbook pro retina but i cannot see headset in sound devices.. if i write pactl list cards short I only see 0 alsa_card.pci-0000_00_1b.0 module-alsa-card.c.... What can I do?
[16:57] <ax562> What is Quantal (12.10) hardware enablement stack for?
[16:58] <ax562> is that just updates like someone said, hw accel etc?
[16:59] <ax562> I'm actually downloading 12.04.2LTS AMD as we speack...just wanted to know 1 vs 2
[17:01] <kostkon> ax562, the new stack for 12.04.2 means better hardware support, new drivers and newer versions of existing drivers.
[17:01] <vincentS> rkid, you could go here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothHeadset   and see if it helps
[17:02] <holstein> flintser: dd is the wrong too for that job
[17:02] <holstein> tool*
[17:03] <Quest> can anyone answer 3. in  http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14990973/tomcat7-and-apache2-on-ubuntu-in-integration-with-some-sort-of-proxy ?
[17:03] <holstein> flintser: i would make sure the system is running stable on the installed partition, and then try and copy to something else
[17:04] <holstein> flintser: there is a file size limit with fat32
[17:04] <rkid> vincentS: i gave that a little try.. but i cannot load the module btheadset pactl load-module module-alsa-sink device=btheadset because it did not exist?
[17:04] <ax562> OK, sounds standard..
[17:04] <ax562> THANK YOU ALL!
[17:04] <awc737> does anyone know which one works better- wine IE or playonlinux IE?
[17:04]  * Quest waits
[17:04]  * awc737 also waits
[17:06] <shantorn> awc737 in the past i had better luck with POL better
[17:06]  * awc737 gets tired of waiting, shoots Quest in the face and runs
[17:06] <awc737> oh, thanks shantorn
[17:07] <awc737> I guess I take that back, sorry Quest. get the defibulator
[17:07] <shantorn> i just necer use IE anymore
[17:08] <holstein> Quest: i would take that to the server channel, and to the support venues for the acutal applications
[17:09] <diki> what were the tools that you specify a binary executable and it prints information such as object's header i.e it's 32-bit or 64-bit, little or big endian
[17:10] <iceroot> diki: file
[17:10] <sgtkilljoy> diki: cat
[17:10] <flintser> holstein: i located the problem in hard disk. the source is somehow corrupted. i tried reflect in windows and it crashed the whole system too
[17:10] <diki> I am sure it started with obj
[17:10] <iceroot> diki: try file
[17:10] <celso> people, does someone knows how to fix a dummy sound output? i am using a intel core i3 with hd3000 graphics and ubuntu 12.04.2 ( hardware stack enabled) guives me no sound.
[17:10] <awc737> shantorn: your missing out. the internet is awesome
[17:11] <topper4125> !info file
[17:11] <holstein> !sound | celso
[17:11] <iceroot> diki: also use "obj TAB TAB" which will show objcopy           objdump
[17:11] <diki> anything else?
[17:11] <iceroot> diki: what is wrong with file?
[17:11] <holstein> celso: i would try pavucontrol if you havent.. if the device is not listed in "aplay -l" you wont hear anything
[17:12] <mohamed_> exit
[17:12] <mohamed_> quit
[17:12] <kostkon> celso, what's the output of:  aplay -l
[17:12] <iceroot> mohamed_: /wc
[17:12] <kostkon> oh holstein already said that
[17:13] <shantorn> awc737 i think you missunderstoos, i dont use internet explorerer, i use FF mainly and for college i use Chrome
[17:13] <celso> kostkon the output is nothing. it doesn't show anything
[17:13] <VilleVicious> hi! I got a new acer aspire one netbook and I'm gonna put linux there. Do you recommend usin the basic 12.10 or lubuntu or some such lightweight distro? I've been running an 12.04 on my old eeepc 901.
[17:13] <holstein> celso: i usually try live CD's to try other kernel and alsa versions..
[17:13] <awc737> VilleVicious: debian 7 is the best
[17:14] <holstein> VilleVicious: try them live and see
[17:14] <bazhang> awc737, stop that
[17:14] <holstein> !ot | awc737
[17:14] <awc737> huh
[17:14] <awc737> isnt ubuntu built on debian 7?
[17:14] <bazhang> !behelpful | awc737
[17:14] <holstein> VilleVicious: i have run the normal full ubuntu on my netbooks.. but lubuntu is a nice lighter choice if you prefer.. with xubuntu being somewhere in the middle, bascially
[17:15] <celso> holstein the problem is that after i select the intel card, the sound disapears. with the live cd and with my both ati and intel cards working at the same time, i have sound.
[17:15] <holstein> celso: select in what way?
[17:15] <kostkon> celso,  lspci | grep audio
[17:15] <celso> holstein through the vgaswitcheroo
[17:16] <holstein> celso: thats VGA switch.. if its crashing audio, dont use it
[17:16] <celso> kostkon lspci | grep audio dont guive anything.
[17:17] <celso> holstein: but it wasn't guiving me any problem with ubuntu 12.04.1.
[17:17] <holstein> celso: i would just go back then..
[17:17] <topper4125> On my netbooks, I tend to run Ubuntu with XFCE as opposed to just running xubuntu, only because I perfer some of the default apps installed in ubuntu over xubuntu (nautilus over Thunar, gedit over leafpad... stuff like that)
[17:17] <iceroot> will mdadm show errors in the welcome-message when connecting with ssh?
[17:18] <celso> holstein: but this is a bug and what it seems, its afecting some people, and i want to know what is causing it to help the devs fixing it.
[17:20] <holstein> celso: well, im not sure, but i think its the vga switching.. is that from a PPA?
[17:21] <holstein> celso: if so, purge it, and test, and report
[17:21] <javierito> hello all, i am a spanish deaf and have a question (sorry by my noob english)
[17:22] <celso> holstein: nop. was everything installed by default. i just edited rc/local file to add comands for turn off my ati card
[17:22] <holstein> celso: then, just keep troubleshooting, and look for bug reports already filed
[17:22] <holstein> celso: its challening since not a lot of users, much less developers have that hardware
[17:23] <celso> holstein: well, i know but if we don't try it, we can't expect better hardware support on ubuntu.
[17:24] <javierito> i like administrate the system ussing the administrator, install programs... and finished all ok... i now like one user join, use programs, download files porn photos and many things, but just the user exit, and other user join the desktop is clean and same the first configuration...
[17:24] <javierito> i like find help but not know who need find
[17:25] <celso> but thanks for the help guys! i will see what is going on with my audio
[17:26] <IrcDroidClient> test
[17:26] <tomas_> I deleted my admin account. Dont see it anymore in login screen. Im now logged in with it in recovery mode and im in root.. what to do ?
[17:26] <Morgawr`urd> hello, I just installed ubuntu and gnome 3 (not unity) on top of it. I started installing some themes to get a better look but no matter what, every custom theme (except the default theme) have the window titlebars that all look the same (and are very ugly)
[17:26] <Morgawr`urd> even after I refresh gnome the titlebar stay the same, am I missing something?
[17:27] <iceroot> javierito: have a look at the guest-account or at "kiosk-mode" or write a logon-script which is cleaning the home
[17:28] <jean_brat> which is a better audio player in Gnome ubuntu to synch MP3/FLAC files to ipod?
[17:28] <popescu93>  /j #rosedu
[17:29] <javierito> iceroot the problem the guestaccount have perm to mod the desktop (buttons, bar)
[17:29] <javierito> the logon scritpts to clear the home its a nice help, ty
[17:31] <javierito> need find kiosk-mode too ty
[17:34] <SonikkuAmerica> Quickie: Is 32-bit support for Ubuntu ending anytime before 2017?
[17:35] <Goranek> Hello guys
[17:35] <LaserShark> SonikkuAmerica, i don't think it's ending anytime soon
[17:35] <Goranek> Can someone tell me how to change ALT key in Irssi? DWM is using alt key :/
[17:36] <agrester> Hey guys, got a dumb question, an upgrade borked by packages and I can't install Teamviewer now because of an infinite dependency loop.  How can I undo this upgrade using "dist-upgrade" somebody on this chat channel suggested a really simple method and I need to fix my system now
[17:38] <sam_> Hi , Im using macchanger on ubuntu 12.04 to change my mac. this is the command first i turn off my computer wireless device (Fn+F3) and then sudo macchanger -r wlan0,, but after some times it goes back to default mac
[17:38] <sam_> any idea what i can do to change it permanenty
[17:39] <agrester> This is so messed up, apt-get is removing all ubuntu-desktop packages and it's totally messing up my system
[17:42] <sam_> made a free node for on #macchanger please join if you have used it before
[17:42] <iamsolost> hello everyone
[17:43] <iamsolost> how do I REINSTALL ubuntu? I'm trying to do it like I installed from a usb and a disc, but it's just not working.
[17:43] <iamsolost> I egt errors.
[17:43] <iamsolost> get*
[17:44] <sam_> whats your error iamsolost?
[17:44] <iamsolost> It doesn't say....
[17:44] <k1l> iamsolost: where is the problem?
[17:44] <_jay> Hey all, quick question- I currently have a partitioned hard drive with multiple ubuntus/grub on it, and want to add a second drive to add other flavors of ubuntu and linux- will grub see these as just another bootable partition? Do I need to set the HD configuration in a specific way?
[17:45] <iamsolost> I tried opening wubi or whatever and it said "Problem loading archive" or someting similar.
[17:45] <iamsolost> Then when I did it from the disc, it tells me something about package manager then it takes me to the software manager and that's all
[17:45] <sam_> did you uninstall the last wubi you installed before?
[17:46] <iamsolost> No.......... I don't know how to do anything
[17:46] <nexus7user> has anyone else installed ubuntu for tablets on their nexus device today?
[17:46] <iamsolost> I just want a clean Ubuntu install.
[17:46] <sam_> go to conrol panel and the uninstall . uninstall wubi
[17:46] <ben1066> I did, it works, though I can't work out what it's using for display, it doesnt appear to be using X11
[17:46] <ben1066> though it is installed...
[17:47] <tomas__> hey, i know the rootpassword. recovery mode go root works and so on.. just cant see my name in login screen ja can only log in as quest ???? What to do ???
[17:47] <holstein> iamsolost: download an iso and try it live
[17:47] <iamsolost> holstein
[17:47] <sam_> anybody knows about macchanger please say sth
[17:47] <iamsolost> I am on Ubuntu right now...
[17:47] <holstein> tomas__: you dont have a root account, by default
[17:47] <iamsolost> I want to reformat basically
[17:47] <Floepsie> where can i find Integrated Intel® GMA HD drivers of package ?
[17:47] <iamsolost> a clean, fresh install
[17:47] <iBot_23> Hi there, I think its Distro related thats why I am asking here: When I try to give crontab a new cronjob via standard in it rejects it and dont know why: http://pastebin.com/4HtNhqY4
[17:47] <holstein> iamsolost: then, log out, load the installation cd,and format
[17:47] <nexus7user> ben, im installing on n7 right now. i hope it doesnt suck too bad.
[17:47] <sam_> don't tell me you are trying to open a exe file on ubuntu!
[17:48] <sam_> go to windows then open wubi
[17:48] <holstein> nexus7user: try #ubuntu-phone
[17:48] <iamsolost> I've shut the computer down and started it back up with the disc in, but it doesn't do anything
[17:48] <holstein> iamsolost: you'll run the installer again
[17:48] <Floepsie> where can i find Integrated Intel® GMA HD drivers of package ?
[17:48] <nexus7user> k
[17:48] <sam_> or you can boot from you live usb or cd or whatever you have ubuntu on it
[17:48] <holstein> !patience | Floepsie
[17:48] <holstein> Floepsie: most intel drivers are just in the kernel.. whats the issue?
[17:48] <iamsolost> I don't have windows at all
[17:48] <iBot_23> [Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS] up to date, but that doesnt affect cron / crontab I think
[17:48] <holstein> iamsolost: correct.. you'll load the installer disc again, and reinstall.. reformat and reinstall
[17:49] <sam_> ok are you trying to install ubuntu on windows or separately?
[17:49] <valter> hello
[17:49] <valter> i have a linmac
[17:49] <sam_> need help with macchanger
[17:49] <Floepsie> my laptop on windows is very silent with the fans. But on ubuntu based system the fan will go on and spinning for 50% always how to bring that down to normal like windows does
[17:49] <valter> a mac which has linux on it
[17:49] <iamsolost> .................... You know when you fuck up your Windows and you basically re-install Windows with your disc? That's what I'm trying to do, but with Ubuntu.
[17:49] <holstein> !enter | valter
[17:50] <IdleOne> iamsolost: Please don't swear in here
[17:50] <valter> i have really old Ubuntu Linux 5.1 on my mac.cant get newer one either
[17:50] <tomas__> holstein:  i have admin i deleted.. it still is there somewhere cos if i try to make it it says it already exist and i can see it cat /etc/passwd
[17:50] <tomas__> just cant see it
[17:50] <tomas__> or use it
[17:50] <iamsolost> We're all big boys.
[17:50] <valter> does anyone talk with me ?
[17:50] <holstein> tomas__: admin is *not* root necessarily.. an admin account can sudo.. you have no root accont
[17:50] <sam_> are you on a black page which says rapaire your grub2?
[17:51] <holstein> account*
[17:51] <Bsims> iamsolost: is it just one package or the entire system?
[17:51] <iamsolost> bsims: what? I don't know. I don't know anything about linux, I got it like 8 hours ago.
[17:51] <sam_> *repair
[17:51] <tomas__> holstein: but when i change user accounts add or remove and give pass it still ask that "xxx" password
[17:52] <Bsims> iamsolost: Ok start at the beginning what is it doing wrong?
[17:52] <IdleOne> iamsolost: You have no idea how big any of us are. This community has rules and we expect everyone to follow them. Please read the channel guidelines, see /msg ubottu !guidelines
[17:52] <joyce_> Hi
[17:52] <agrester> So, how do I reset to a previous install state using dist-upgrade?
[17:52] <sam_> does your windows start up now? or you are stucked on black pages
[17:53] <iamsolost> Bsims:  I just can't open wubi..........
[17:53] <Bsims> iamsolost:  sorry never used wubi I can't help ya
[17:53] <roberto__> ciao
[17:53] <iBot_23> Can someone confirm that on his 12.04.01 LTS machine he/she is able to add cronjobs to crontab via STDIN? (crontab "* * * * * /bin/echo test") Am I doing something wrong?
[17:53] <iamsolost> Bsims: Then how did you install Ubuntu?
[17:54] <iamsolost> Bsims: I just wanna reinstall for christ sake.
[17:54] <joyce_> Hello
[17:54] <joyce_> Sex?
[17:54] <Bsims> iamsolost: I installed it replacing windows, yes you should be able to reinstall with no problems
[17:54] <Floepsie> lol
[17:54] <sam_> macchanger last call if you know it tell me need a little help with it
[17:54] <ikonia> iBot_23: cron doesn't have a terminal
[17:54] <ikonia> joyce_: no, not here, ubuntu support only
[17:54] <ikonia> iBot_23: so you can't "echo"
[17:54] <bazhang> joyce_, wrong network
[17:54] <joyce_> What's this
[17:54] <Bsims> worst case delete the wubi files
[17:54] <joyce_> For wat
[17:54] <ikonia> joyce_: ubuntu support
[17:54] <joyce_> Means?
[17:54] <Floepsie> linux
[17:54] <ikonia> joyce_: means it's for ubuntu linux support chat
[17:54] <iamsolost> Sigh.
[17:55] <Floepsie> operating system
[17:55] <joyce_> ??
[17:55] <iBot_23> ikonia: cron is able to echo into files AFAIK.
[17:55] <joyce_> Ic
[17:55] <ikonia> iBot_23: yes, your command isn't doing that
[17:55] <iBot_23> ikonia: my problem is that i cannot modify cron via standard in in any way. it just dont accept any input via std in.
[17:56] <ikonia> iBot_23: you can change cron no issues, how are you trying to change cron
[17:57] <iBot_23> ikonia: crontab "@reboot /bin/sleep 60 ; ~/Octopus_udp 2000"
[17:57] <ikonia> iBot_23: you don't edit cron like that
[17:57] <gsxarakiri> People, how to insrall ubuntu on windows7?
[17:58] <meLon> Has anybody here gotten pulsaudio running over LAN with 12.10?
[17:58] <sliddjur> grep ENCRYPT_METHOD /etc/login.defs is this the encryption method of passwords in /etc/shadow
[17:58] <Bsims> gsxarakiri: I am fond of using openbox for that
[17:58] <iBot_23> ikonia: how do I edit cron then if I want to edit it via a shell script? (http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9083467/writing-a-shell-script-to-install-cron-job)
[17:58] <Bsims> er virtualbox rather
[17:58] <ikonia> iBot_23: you don't edit it via a shell script
[17:58] <ikonia> iBot_23: you edit it with an editor, or load a pre-built cronfile
[17:58] <ikonia> manipulating the crontab file manually is not advised
[17:58] <k1l> !install | gsxarakiri
[17:59] <gsxarakiri> sorry I talkong about ubuntu for phone
[17:59] <iBot_23> ikonia: ok so I will load a prebuilt cronfile to my ami thanks
[17:59] <k1l> !phone | gsxarakiri
[17:59] <valter> HELLO WORLD
[17:59] <valter> where are you all from
[17:59] <k1l> !ot | valter
[18:00] <valter> ok.then i have another question.where can i get new flash player for linux 5.1 for mac ?
[18:00] <valter> mine is too old
[18:00] <k1l> valter: linux 5.1 is not supported here
[18:01] <bazhang> valter, ubuntu 5.10 is not supported for many years now
[18:01] <valter> thats bad.
[18:01] <k1l> valter: what does "lsb_release -r" in terminal say?
[18:01] <valter> i cant get newer one for imac g3 either
[18:01] <bazhang> valter, sure you can
[18:01] <valter> kll,dont know
[18:02] <valter> ok brb
[18:02] <genii-around> valter: I'm pretty sure there are later versions of Ubuntu for your Mac, just they are community ports and not official releases.
[18:02] <genii-around> !ppc | valter
[18:02] <k1l> valter: you should type/copy that and paste the result in here
[18:03] <Floepsie>  how to switch by irssi to the servertab and back ?
[18:04] <TwoFace> debian still makes a powerpc release
[18:04] <Avinash> Hello Guys, I got a problem with sublime text editor ..
[18:04] <jm_> [/join #ubuntu+1
[18:04] <Avinash> whenever I try to open it(via terminal) I'm encountered with a error message saying "Segmentation Fault" :(
[18:05] <robertobob> ciao
[18:06] <_jay> I currently have a partitioned hard drive with multiple ubuntus/grub on it, and want to add a second drive to add other flavors of ubuntu and linux- will grub see these as just another bootable partition? Do I need to set the HD configuration in a specific way?
[18:08] <Goranek> a/network add -autosendcmd "/msg nickserv identify <password> ;wait 2000" Freenode
[18:08] <Goranek> ah sorry
[18:09] <celso> holstein: well, i know what it is the problem. It seems that to make my card change to intel, it was required to add "Sleep 6" in the beguining of the rc/local file .  Doing that, was blocking my audio card to get initialized.
[18:09] <exiff> Hello.
[18:10] <celso> holstein: now it is fixed. I am going to write this on ask ubuntu for more people to know.
[18:10] <exiff> How do i check the clock rate and interface width of my video card?
[18:11] <celso> holstein: by the way, thanks for the help!
[18:11] <GeorgeTorwell> Is it normal that ubuntu recently asked me to upgrade ecryptfs and then it asked me to re-record my passphrase?
[18:11] <tomas__> so hey.. i cant explain i guess but this is problem... how to make that "real admin" to list... http://i.imgur.com/R63BUNT.jpg
[18:12] <PeqNP> hi there. i have an issue with ubuntu 12.04. when i run laptop-detect -v it says, "We're a laptop (ACPI batteries found)". thing is i'm running a pc. also, when i go to System Settings > Details > Overview it shows that my Graphics is "Unknown" even though I have an nVidia card installed (and have successfully installed the Additional Drivers)
[18:12] <tomas__> anyone here to help me fix this.. i have googleted like 5hours
[18:13] <jdukiet> I just spilled coffee on my laptop. Should I boot in recovery mode, or just get a paper towel?
[18:13] <kirkland> GeorgeTorwell: yes, that's normal
[18:13] <GeorgeTorwell> I see
[18:14] <tomas__> holstein:  can you help
[18:14] <GeorgeTorwell> i dont get why upgrading ecryptfs means I have to rerecord my passphrase since my home directory was already encrypted
[18:14] <tomas__> Anybody help me to fix this ?
[18:14] <tomas__> http://i.imgur.com/R63BUNT.jpg
[18:14] <kirkland> GeorgeTorwell: it's just a friendly reminder
[18:15] <GeorgeTorwell> but I already recorded one when I installed it ages ago
[18:15] <bekks> tomas__: Describe you issue please.
[18:15] <HappyNewYear13> hi, what's a good firefox plugin wo watch avi videos on a web page. currently I have totem 3.0.1 using Gsteamer 0.10.36. what else can i install?
[18:15] <tomas__> look pic.. i lost my admin account but it still exist
[18:15] <tomas__> bekks:
[18:15] <GeorgeTorwell> upgrading the software shouldnt change already encrypted things should it?
[18:15] <tomas__> bekks: look pic.. i lost my admin account but it still exist
[18:16] <HappyNewYear13> EDIT: what's a good firefox plugin to watch avi videos on a web page. currently I have totem 3.0.1 using Gsteamer 0.10.36 but it's not very good. what else can i install?
[18:16] <tomas__> how to get it in list and RIGHT place
[18:16] <bekks> tomas__: I dont get your picture, thats why I want you to describe it.
[18:16] <tomas__> bekks:  i lost my admin account.. (still exist) when i change other accounts in list i need my "admin" account which reads in there list and that password so it exist there somewhere
[18:17] <Henke37> so I used the package manager to unistall cups
[18:17] <Henke37> and now I lost my sidebar
[18:17] <bekks> tomas__: I am sorry, I still dont get your problem. Can you log in using you admins account name and password?
[18:18] <tomas__> bekks:  so it doesnt ask user password when unlocking users... it asks that "admin pass" that user i cant se in list cos i deleted in actually
[18:18] <tomas__> bekks:  no its not in login screen
[18:18] <tomas__> bekks:  i can login only as guest
[18:18] <bekks> tomas__: you can type in a user name there. Did you delete the admin account?
[18:18] <Bane`> hello all
[18:19] <klrr> xml sucks
[18:19] <tomas__> bekks:  yes i deleted... i made it normal account.. then i made new account and give it admin rights but forget password.. then whole system stopped working
[18:19] <tomas__> bekks:  then i deleted it.. and now im situation as picture shows
[18:20] <tomas__> bekks:  it exists but cant find it and if i add new "same" name it doesnt work
[18:20] <bekks> tomas__: I dont get the picture, as I said. So you deleted two admin accounts, and you cant log in anymore, not even using a normal user account?
[18:20] <tomas__> bekks:  i can login only guest
[18:21] <bekks> tomas__: The guest is not a normal user account, it is a guest account.
[18:21] <ckwalsh> I know this sounds really stupid, but any way I can temporarily disable xauth in ubuntu and allow X connections regardless of authentication values? I'm trying to test a system, and can't get the xauth credentials passed around properly.
[18:21] <ckwalsh> Doesn't help that my command is chained sudo => chroot => su(nobody) => app...
[18:21] <sofian> nice join>>>
[18:21] <bekks> tomas__: So basically you have to boot a live cd to fix your lost passwords and admin accounts.
[18:22] <exiff> How do i check the clock rate and interface width of my video card?
[18:22] <bekks> exiff: What is the interface width of a video card?
[18:22] <tomas__> bekks:  i go to install ?
[18:22] <bekks> tomas__: No. You boot the live cd, you dont reinstall.
[18:22] <tomas__> bekks:  with install cd.. no recovery mode?
[18:23] <leeping> Hello, I'm trying to view a system log (specifically kern.log), but the file is too old, and dmesg isn't printing out enough messages
[18:23] <exiff> bekks: bus width, if i'm not mistaken
[18:23] <leeping> Is there some way to either increase the number of messages in dmesg, or locate the file with the most recent logs?
[18:23] <tomas__> bekks:  ok.. now i restart computer
[18:23] <bekks> exiff: IS it a laptop?
[18:24] <exiff> Aye, a laptop it be.
[18:24] <neohaux> Can some one advise me a good URL where I can learn how to develop my applet (for Unity desktop) ?
[18:24] <bekks> exiff: Then just take a look at the manual of your laptop.
[18:24] <folivora> tom__: to reset passwds, boot some live cd, mount patition where you have /etc/passwd anf remove :x: from the account ie. root / admin and save it. then boot and it wont ask password. x points to /etc/shadow
[18:24] <jhutchins_wk> leeping: dmesg should have the most recent messages last, and should fill several screens.
[18:25] <folivora> tomas__: i ment to write
[18:25] <dv-> exiff: try lspci -vvv
[18:25] <bekks> folivora: Thats not resetting any passwords, but activating the root account. Thats definitely a bad idea.
[18:25] <leeping> jhutchins_wk, there are lots of messages, and even though I can scroll back several screens, I can't get to 5:45 AM
[18:25] <leeping> it only goes back to 7:45 AM (right now it's 10:25)
[18:25] <jhutchins_wk> leeping: dmesg | less
[18:26] <exiff> dv-: it gave some output listing what looks like my hardware.
[18:26] <folivora> bekks: i was just pointing out that there is a way to reset password, anyway you can create new hash and replace old one with it in /etc/shadow
[18:26] <leeping> jhutchins_wk, that's what I did.
[18:26] <folivora> bekks: if admin pw is totally lost
[18:27] <leeping> jhutchins_wk, wait, one moment .. I might be misreading the timestamps ..
[18:27] <leeping> I guess this is a separate issue, is there an easy way to convert the numerical timestamps to time/date?
[18:27] <tomas__> bekks: hey,, now it is in install option.. "try" or "install"
[18:27] <bekks> folivora: Thats not resetting any passwords, but activating the root account. Thats definitely a bad idea.
[18:27] <tomas__> bekks:  from cd
[18:28] <exiff> dv-: Under '00:02.0 VGA compatible controller', which is the clock rate and bus width?
[18:28] <bekks> folivora: All you have to do is to set a new password for your user, not activating the root account.
[18:28] <holstein> tomas__: what is the issue?
[18:28] <bekks> exiff: Thats only the PCI BUS ID. lspci -vvv has a lot more of output.
[18:29] <bekks> tomas__: As I said, do not reinstall.
[18:29] <Mathias> in /etc/sane.d/dll.conf, what should i enable to be able to use a canon pixma mg2255 to scan? google just gave me bs results
[18:29] <tomas__> bekks: then what.. i put it in cdrom and it goes to there
[18:29] <holstein> tomas__: if you had an admin account, and removed it, it'll be gone from that list.. you should be able to put it back.. if you have not admin accounts left, you can do this from the root recovery terminal
[18:29] <folivora> bekks: ehh, i did misread then.. i thought that password were lost and he could not access to the system
[18:29] <exiff> bekks: I'll go through it thouroughly.
[18:30] <wmoss_>  /server irc.zbump.com 6667 wmoss
[18:30] <bekks> folivora: Whatever you do on a system - you literally NEVER have to activate the root account.
[18:30] <mike160> hi anyone know how to downgrade transmission on ubuntu
[18:30] <tomas__> holstein: yeah first one... its not in list but i cant just "add user".. its not work
[18:30] <tomas__> holstein:  deleted it
[18:31] <mike160> i have transmission v 2.33 ineed to transmission 2.03
[18:31] <exiff> i think i found it, thank you dv- and bekks .
[18:32] <holstein> tomas__: then, put it back
[18:33] <tomas__> holstein:  yeah.. that is question, how???? it doesnt work just "add user" and it doesnt go right place
[18:33] <tomas__> holstein: cos it says user already exist... and its trying to make user2 with same name
[18:34] <holstein> tomas__: whats the issue? if the user exists, just use it
[18:35] <tomas__> holstein:  i can just login with guest and it is not in list
[18:35] <threex5> Hi I'm trying to transfer files between two ubuntu machines using a crossover cable
[18:35] <Bane`> Is there anyway to see if both cores on my 690 are being used within Ubuntu?
[18:35] <threex5> I have already set the ipv4 preferences to 'shared with other computer' and both computers show a wired connection
[18:35] <Bane`> Or an SLI option of some sort?
[18:36] <holstein> tomas__: how does login fail?
[18:36] <BluesKaj> Bane`, system monitor
[18:36] <threex5> I just don't know where to go from here. The network managers assigned the same ip to both machines, not sure why
[18:36] <holstein> tomas__: i wouldnt.. i would just use a router
[18:36] <holstein> tomas__: sorry... threex5 ^^
[18:37] <threex5> holstein, I understand but I can't physically run the cables that way in my place. Also I have a lot of housemates and I'm trying to bypass the network
[18:37] <threex5> for their sake
[18:38] <threex5> I mean I should be able to ssh this way, no?
[18:38] <san__> Hi Guys
[18:38] <san__> need one help..
[18:38] <OZ4KK> !paste
[18:39] <Henke37> I think I broke my install
[18:39] <Henke37> I uninstalled cups since I don't have a printer
[18:39] <topper4125> !ask | san__
[18:39] <Henke37> and now I lost my sidebar thingy
[18:39] <Henke37> help please!
[18:39] <san__> i tried i tried to install ubuntu sdk in raring 13.04
[18:39] <holstein> threex5: i would use a different router.. and just connect, and dont allow connicitity to others
[18:39] <san__> and facing one dependency issue
[18:40] <san__> and after that m not able to install or update anything
[18:40] <bekks> san__: The raring support is to be found in #ubuntu+1
[18:40] <Bane`> BluesKaj: system monitor doesn't show the 690's cores
[18:40] <jhutchins_wk> threex5: You'll need to manually assign different IPs to each system before you can ssh.
[18:40] <holstein> threex5: i would say, start with ping.. ping the machines with the crossover cable
[18:40] <SonikkuAmerica> Henke37: I wouldn't have touched stuff I didn't need if I were you... but now what's done is done... is this Unity?
[18:40] <jhutchins_wk> Bane`: How about top or /proc/cpuinfo?
[18:41] <Henke37> SonikkuAmerica, I have no idea
[18:41] <Bane`> jhutchins_wk: looking for the gpu cores, not cpu
[18:41] <Bane`> GTX 690
[18:41] <san__> ok.. Please if you guys can help me on this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1700815/
[18:41] <SonikkuAmerica> Henke37: It probably is if you're missing a "sidebar"
[18:41] <jhutchins_wk> Bane`: maybe lshw or hwinfo?
[18:41] <Henke37> I didn't like the sidebar anyway
[18:41] <kingbeast> threex5, first off is ubuntu recognizing the cable?
[18:42] <Henke37> but I need something to switch tasks
[18:42] <SonikkuAmerica> Henke37: try [ sudo apt-get install --reinstall unity ]
[18:42] <tymonn> hey
[18:42] <threex5> ok thanks, jhutchins_wk and holstein. I go to system>administration>network, turn off roaming mode, then set a static ip for each, with the same subnet mask and no gateway. does that sound right?
[18:42] <tomas__> holstein: i will re install everything  :D
[18:42] <bekks> tomas__: No need to do so.
[18:42] <tomas__> holstein:  cant fix this
[18:42] <tomas__> bekks:  i cant fix this
[18:42] <threex5> kingbeast, ubuntu is recognizing the cable on both ends
[18:42] <jhutchins_wk> threex5: Sounds ok to me.
[18:42] <bekks> tomas__: Did you boot the live cd?
[18:42] <tymonn> is it normal that the ubuntuOS is stuck like at 80%?
[18:43] <tymonn> ubuntu phoneOS
[18:43] <tomas__> bekks:  how can i do that ?
[18:43] <bekks> tomas__: By booting the live cd and choosing "try" not "install"...?
[18:43] <holstein> tomas__: sure you can.. im not sure anything is broken anyway
[18:43] <threex5> jhutchins_wk, does it matter what ip i use? does it have to be a 192.168 ip?
[18:43] <kingbeast> but you are not able to see the the devices connected to the cable right? ie computers
[18:43] <tomas__> holstein: ok i try
[18:43] <BluesKaj> Bane`, does your system monitor have a "system load" tab ?
[18:43] <threex5> can the subnet mask be 255.0.0.0?
[18:44] <SonikkuAmerica> tymonn: Try asking in #ubuntu-phone
[18:44] <kingbeast> threex5, ^^
[18:44] <tomas__> holstein:  yeah but its just cos i dont know how to fix this
[18:44] <tuule> hey guys
[18:44] <Goranek> i
[18:44] <Goranek> hi
[18:44] <tomas__> holstein:  already has taken 6hours *:D
[18:44] <holstein> tomas__: what is the issue?
[18:44] <holstein> tomas__: can you login as another user? if no, how does it fail?
[18:44] <tomas__> holstein: same..
[18:44] <threex5> kingbeast does that mean ditto?
[18:44] <OZ4KK> Hi,,, what is wrong here ? ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/1700833/
[18:44] <tuule> will it be ubuntu tablet edition for other tabs(not only for nexus) ?
[18:44] <holstein> tomas__: what is the same?
[18:44] <llutz> threex5: sure, why not (/8 network)
[18:44] <tomas__> holstein: only guest
[18:45] <holstein> tomas__: how does it fail?
[18:45] <tomas__> holstein:  guest works fine
[18:45] <bekks> tomas__: Why dont you just boot the live cd now...?
[18:45] <kingbeast> threex5, it sees the cable just not the machine on the other end right?
[18:45] <tomas__> holstein:  its booting atm
[18:45] <holstein> tomas__: how do the others fail?
[18:45] <threex5> correct kingbeast
[18:45] <tomas__> holstein:  other just dont log in.. come back to login screen
[18:45] <holstein> tomas__: OK.. the geust account loads a GUI.. how do the other user accounts fail?
[18:45] <holstein> tomas__: then, i would try to login via tty
[18:46] <holstein> !tty | tomas__
[18:46] <tomas__> holstein:  and admin isnt in list and cant find the way to ad it
[18:46] <bekks> tomas__: After booting the live cd, just reset your user password in first instance: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[18:46] <holstein> tomas__: then, if you can login, you know the accounts are good, and working properly. you can remove the .config files and try loggin in
[18:46] <the_jeebster> any idea when ubuntu phone OS will be available?
[18:46] <OZ4KK> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1700833/  what is wrong here ?
[18:46] <Pici> !phone | the_jeebster
[18:46] <holstein> tomas__: you can add an admin account from the root recover console
[18:47] <the_jeebster> Pici: I know, just wondering if perhaps there was some insider info here :)
[18:47] <bekks> !details | OZ4KK
[18:47] <tomas__> holstein: where should i put that admin account that i can see it in login..    ( now i have booted from cd so then what ?)
[18:47] <Goranek> guys, where can i set default ssh pem key? it takes to much time for me to put -i  [.pem location]
[18:48] <holstein> tomas__: tty
[18:48] <OZ4KK> bekks, thanks for this :-)
[18:48] <threex5> ok I can't find the place to set the ip address in 12.04
[18:48] <tomas__> holstein:  where i can find it
[18:48] <holstein> tomas__: you dont boot from cd.. you try logging in as the user that is failing, from tty.. then you report
[18:48] <Henke37> oh crap, the X console doesn't boot and the text console uses the wrong keyboard layout
[18:48] <holstein> tomas__: find what?
[18:48] <Pici> the_jeebster: Any new info would come from #ubuntu-phone
[18:48] <threex5> i'm using gnome classic. my other machine is mint and it was located at administration>network
[18:48] <holstein> Henke37: i would try as another user... if the other use is fine, then its your config that is broken
[18:49] <the_jeebster> Pici: cool, thanks
[18:49] <yigal> Goranek: is this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/84096/setting-the-default-ssh-key-location not working ?
[18:49] <Henke37> holstein, it hangs before the login screen
[18:49] <yigal> Goranek: alias ssh="ssh -i /path/to/private_key"
[18:49] <yigal> Goranek: as a possible method
[18:49] <holstein> Henke37: then, how are you logged in? you can create another user from the recovery console and test in the way you logged in just now
[18:49] <llutz> Goranek: ~/.ssh/config
[18:49] <Henke37> as I said, the text mode console
[18:49] <Goranek> yigal: thats not really a nice way to do it.. i was looking something like .config file
[18:50] <llutz> Goranek: "man ssh_config"
[18:50] <yigal> Goranek: yes as llutz put it
[18:50] <Goranek> llutz: yeah i'm checking it now
[18:50] <kingbeast> threex5, pm!!
[18:50] <Henke37> I hate bogus package dependencies that makes it impossible to remove crap because the entire system breaks
[18:50] <Ogredude> ok I'm having trouble even coming up with good google searches for this one.  Unity 12.04 running Unity window manager. When you resize a window, you get a semitransparent box, and then when you let go the mouse, the window snaps to its new size.  How do I change this so it behaves more like windows and osx, where the window resizes on the fly, live?
[18:51] <tomas__> holstein:  didnt get it.. now im recovery mode root
[18:51] <ben1066> Is the source code for qml-phone-shell avaliable?
[18:51] <tomas__> holstein:  i make "dir" i get only desktop
[18:51] <bombuzal> Hi, I just installed Ubuntu Touch DP though had to sideload the image, is it supposed to have the personal contacts and messages of someone I don't know on? ;)
[18:51] <tomas__> is it good ?
[18:52] <holstein> tomas__: ok.. so, you can create a new user, and try loggin in as that new user.. give it sudo privs and do what you need to "repair" the system and the other users
[18:52] <bekks> tomas__: Why dont you reset your lost user password?
[18:52] <bekks> tomas__: You DONT HAVE TO create a NEW user.
[18:52] <llutz> web
[18:52] <bekks> Thats pointless.
[18:52] <ben1066> bombuzal: yes
[18:53] <tomas__> bekks:  i reseted password the "admin" i created that is not "real" admin from recovery mode... didnt access in.. only guest can login
[18:53] <bekks> tomas__: Then tell us the error you get when logging in.
[18:53] <tomas__> bekks:  there is no error.. just "bing" and your back in login screen
[18:53] <tomas__> no matter how many times do it
[18:54] <holstein> tomas__: the issue could be with your .config files as well. you are just not getting to a desktop with that user.. you are assuming the account is broken or missing.. the guest account is locked down
[18:54] <holstein> tomas__: you could be "bing" back to login for a config issue
[18:54] <tomas__> holstein:  yes,, i dont get desktop thats problem
[18:54] <bekks> tomas__: Then check wether your hard disk is full. That can be done using the guest account, too.
[18:54] <tomas__> holstein:  i dont get desktop cos that user doesnt exist in loging screen
[18:54] <holstein> tomas__: correct.. so, you can remove the offending config.. OR, you can create a new user
[18:54] <llutz> tomas__: "df -h" "ls -ld /tmp"
[18:55] <SonikkuAmerica> tomas__/holstein: It could be that .Xauthority issue too.
[18:55] <yigal> Goranek: did you get it?
[18:56] <SonikkuAmerica> tomas__/holstein: Or the user doesn't have permission to run an X session.
[18:57] <bekks> tomas__: Then check wether your hard disk is full. That can be done using the guest account, too.
[18:57] <bekks> tomas__: Why dont you just follow the suggestion given in here?
[18:57] <holstein> SonikkuAmerica: that too... either should be able to be worked out from new user account with sudo privs, creatalbe from the recover console
[18:57] <yigal> Goranek: a matter of using the Host variable for the SSH server you are interested in, and specifying the pem, and possibly user name for the host in ~/.ssh/config
[18:58] <thomas_> holstein:  what is the file that shows users in login screen
[18:58] <Goranek> yigal: thanks mate, seinfeld youtube clip took my interest :) haha btw, i'm working on it :)
[18:58] <holstein> thomas_: can you login as the new user you created with the root recovery console?
[18:59] <Quest> why this config http://pastebin.ca/2316408  for alpinema.com nor alpinema.com/alpinemadotcom is working but only the independant tomcate request as alpinema.com:8080 works?
[18:59] <Goranek> yigal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mxhs-O_9BLc :) :) :)
[18:59] <thomas_> holstein:  it asks root password for maintenance.. so i give that.. and now im there.. what next ??
[19:00] <yigal> Goranek: :)
[19:00] <holstein> thomas_: make a new user.. give it sudo privs http://askubuntu.com/questions/70236/create-an-administrator-user-in-command-line
[19:01] <bytecode> Hey guys, I am hoping someone in here has some knowledge on how i might connect to a sstp vpn in ubuntu 12.04 ... i'm going on about my 5th hour googling ... i have installed all dependencies for sstp-client and the gnome network manager on http://sourceforge.net/projects/sstp-client/  and shortly thereafter the update manager thought i needed a distribution upgrade ... very odd ... and it removed the sstp-client ...
[19:01] <Sag> [anyone please help me out for wired connection betn windows7 to ubuntu\
[19:01] <bytecode> there is the sstpc binary thru the console but after supplying what seemed like the right args it just failed to connect
[19:02] <thomas_> holstein:  adding..... groupadd: cannot lock /etc/group; try again later..
[19:02] <SonikkuAmerica> thomas_: it's the [ useradd ] command, not [ groupadd ]
[19:03] <Guest15991> hi
[19:03] <SonikkuAmerica> Guest15991: Hello
[19:03] <thomas_> SonikkuAmerica:  yea i put useradd
[19:03] <Goranek> yigal: Works! Adding "IdentityFile ~/.ssh/server.pem" to ~/.ssh/config works great.. Thanks ! :)
[19:03] <thomas_> SonikkuAmerica:  sudo useradd xxx
[19:03] <yigal> Goranek: awesome, glad to hear, cheers
[19:04] <Guest15991> how to create super user of postgres in ubuntu
[19:04] <Guest15991> ?
[19:04] <superdo> hey, love Ubuntu :D recognized my usb headse wo problems ;-)
[19:04] <SonikkuAmerica> thomas: And the -G switch I hope?
[19:04] <SerenE_SparK> ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEM=="usb_device", SYSFS{idVendor}=="040a", SYSFS{idProduct}=="0576", RUN+="/usr/local/my_script in this what changes are to be made if we dont know the SYSFS and the vendor
[19:05] <Mathias> weird, sane-find-scanner nags about permissions when i'm running it as a normal user, but when i run it as root, it doens't discover the scanner
[19:05] <SonikkuAmerica> thomas_: I meant to say the -g switch
[19:06] <SonikkuAmerica> thomas_: [ sudo useradd -g admin $NAME ]
[19:06] <llutz> Mathias: are you member of group"scanner"?
[19:07] <Mathias> llutz: not my main concern, even if i run simple-scan as root (i know i shouldn't do it) it doesn't discover it
[19:07] <bytecode> anyone with experience connecting to sstp vpn ?
[19:07] <thomas_> SonikkuAmerica: group admin does not exist
[19:08] <yigal> Mathias: do you know if you have the right drivers for the scanner on the machine?
[19:08] <Mathias> no :s
[19:08] <Mathias> and running the installer in wine just throws me a "run as admin"-message and quits
[19:09] <yigal> Mathias: I would attempt to make sure you have the proper drivers for scanning, what scanner do you have, I'm sorry I missed it.
[19:09] <lduros> hi, I'm trying to rebuild my grub from another drive. the partition is in /dev/mapper/ubuntu-root, which I'm not familiar with (i know how to do with /dev/sda/) when I try: sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/mapper/ubuntu-root it gives me an error that attempting to install grub to a partitionless disk or partition is a bad idea. and "embedding is not possible, but this is required when the root device is on a RAID array or
[19:09] <lduros> LVM volume". What am I supposed to do?
[19:09] <thomas_> SonikkuAmerica:  i found this.. exatly same problem
[19:09] <thomas_> SonikkuAmerica:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/136495/i-deleted-my-original-user-account-the-new-account-has-no-password-how-can-i-e
[19:09] <Mathias> yigal: canon pixma mg2255
[19:09] <Mathias> and the driver from canon doesn't work, unfortunately
[19:09] <wN> lduros: is that last part part of the onscreen error? your output shows you're using LVM
[19:10] <lduros> wN: yeh it's part of the onscreen error. so what am I supposed to do?
[19:12] <wN> lduros: does it give you an option to continue anyway?
[19:12] <lduros> wN: nope
[19:12] <lduros> haha
[19:12] <wN> do you have a screenshot by chance?
[19:12] <SonikkuAmerica> thomas_: So you're in the root shell prompt now, right?
[19:12] <lduros> wN: let me make one
[19:13] <yigal> Mathias: unfortunately I don't see your printer explicitly listed here man sane-pixma
[19:13] <yigal> Mathias: but I suspect it is likely supported
[19:13] <thomas_> SonikkuAmerica:  yea
[19:13] <hazardous> i have link aggregation set up for eth0+eth1 -> bond0 active-backup, and ipv6 is not routing but ipv4 is working, what do i do
[19:13] <thomas_> SonikkuAmerica:  actually i just started to reinstall hole stuff
[19:13] <SonikkuAmerica> thomas_: Hole stuff?
[19:14] <SonikkuAmerica> thomas_: I don't follow.
[19:14] <thomas_> SonikkuAmerica:  this makes me crazy :DD
[19:14] <lduros> wN: easier than screenshot: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2164748
[19:14] <lduros> here is what my terminal gives me
[19:14] <Mathias> yigal: tried enabling everything but "test" in /etc/sane.d/dll.conf
[19:15] <lduros> the /mnt is /dev/mapper/ubuntu-root
[19:15] <lduros> sdb1 is the external drive on which I am currently
[19:16] <lduros> wN: sdbX rather
[19:16] <newbie_to_ubuntu> simple question here.  I want a terminal window with a horizonal scrollbar and each line is only ona  single line with no line wrapping.   12.04
[19:16] <newbie_to_ubuntu> any way to do it?
[19:16] <SonikkuAmerica> newbie_to_ubuntu: Not that I know of. If a line is too long, it's wrapping.
[19:17] <wN> lduros: you're trying to install grub to a logical volume. it should be run against the boot disk
[19:17] <SonikkuAmerica> newbie_to_ubuntu: Or rather... wait...
[19:17] <bytecode>      anyone with experience setting up an sstp vpn connection in 12.04  ?
[19:17] <lduros> wN: but when I do it on sda1 it doesn't work
[19:17] <lduros> on /dev/sda
[19:17] <wN> waht happens when you use sda?
[19:17] <newbie_to_ubuntu> the MS windows command prompt can do that !
[19:17] <lduros> but which am i supposed to mount in /mnt first?
[19:18] <lduros> ok let me try that
[19:18] <wN> lduros: i haven't seen a machine that can boot to LV instead of booting from a disk. the grub-install places teh MBR where you tell it to, so it should be added to sda
[19:18] <lduros> wN: it says no error reported:
[19:18] <wN> lduros: nothing. grub is written out to the MBR which is before the file-system and partition table
[19:18] <lduros> lduros@lduros-work:/mnt$ sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda -- Installation finished. No error reported.
[19:18] <Mathias> yigal: gtg, i'm going to try again on sunday though
[19:18] <lduros>  
[19:18] <Mathias> thanks for the help so far :)
[19:18] <lduros> ok, so I just did that
[19:18] <SerenE_SparK> How can we define a udev rule to run geany when a pendrive is connected
[19:18] <lduros> doesn't it usually list the kernels?
[19:19] <lduros> wN: i have to reboot to tell, ... of course :)
[19:19] <wN> lduros: grub-install?
[19:19] <lduros> wN: with the root directory is fine no?
[19:19] <lduros> wN: let me try to reboot
[19:19] <lduros> this might have worked
[19:19] <lduros> brb
[19:19] <wN> lduros: that looks right *to me* but i dont have too much experience with grub2... only the older stuff
[19:19] <lduros> yeh
[19:19] <lduros> ok
[19:19] <lduros> brb :)
[19:19] <FloodBot1> lduros: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:19] <wN> FloodBot1--
[19:20] <pranav> my ubuntu is 32bit currently, can i upgrade my kernel to Linux 3.8
[19:20] <pranav> is kernel independent of 32bit or 64bit ubuntu ?
[19:21] <bekks> pranav: No.
[19:21] <bekks> pranav: Kernel is 32bit or 64bit.
[19:23] <SonikkuAmerica> pranav: That shouldn't affect your ability to go up to 3.8 (assuming you're gonna get your hands dirty and try Raring)
[19:23] <pranav> bekks: can i upgrade my ubuntu to 64bit easily side effects ?
[19:23] <bekks> No...
[19:23] <SonikkuAmerica> pranav: No. It is not easy, nor is it recommended.
[19:24] <cowbud> When I launch pulseaudio I get an error bluetooth-util.c Error From listAdapters reply: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied. I am at a loss what I need to modify to make sure my user has access to ListAdapters. They are in the bluetooth group, the dbus daemon is running system wide as this system is headless. Any direction would be appreciated
[19:24] <bekks> pranav: No, you cannot upgrade fron 32bit to 64bit without reinstalling.
[19:24] <pranav> bekks: ok, beeks. for time being I will just upgrade my kernel to 3.8
[19:24] <pranav> 32bit
[19:25] <SonikkuAmerica> You only really need 64-bit if (a) you have a 64-bit-only arch, and (b) if you need to address more than 3.5 GB of RAM.
[19:25] <SonikkuAmerica> At least for now. There is the Year 2038 problem...
[19:25] <metal_wraith> so far I've been enjoying ubuntu 12.10 aside from using just gnome-fall back session instead of unity. if I had paid attention i'd of used a 64bit version instead of the 32bit... but oh well things are working fine and without issues.
[19:26] <lister> Some of you have an ekiga account?
[19:26] <ccoil> Hello! I tried several times to get Ubuntu (12.10) to work on my Acer 7750g; but installing even the most trivial drivers seems to be impossible. I cant get either (Broadcom) wifi or my (Radeon) graphics card to work. Why is it so hard to install these very essential drivers?
[19:26] <lister> does ekiga really work?
[19:26] <SonikkuAmerica> ccoil: What drivers did you try?
[19:27] <ccoil> Honestly, the only solution I was able to google my way to was to install the "Additional Drivers" app from Ubuntu Software; which never completed installing (it happends every time)
[19:27] <ccoil> 'Tried to install a couple of other apps; they never finished installing either
[19:27] <pranav> SonikkuAmerica metal_wraith : my computer supports 64bit. 2 years before. for some issues. i started with 32bit 10.04. and then last year, upgraded to 12.04
[19:27] <Physicist> Greetings. How can I see the ip from cmdos
[19:28] <SonikkuAmerica> pranav: What processor?
[19:28] <ccoil> I really really want to use Ubuntu, but it seems very "imature" in temrs of drivers
[19:28] <SonikkuAmerica> ccoil: I might be able to get b43 working for your Wi-Fi.
[19:28] <Physicist> ccoil: You're not wrong...
[19:28] <cowbud> re: my problem. Figured it out, after adding the user to the lp group I had to restart dbus!
[19:29] <SonikkuAmerica> Physicist: run [ ifconfig -a ] and look under the "inet addr:" section of the device.
[19:30] <pranav> SonikkuAmerica: intel core i5 m430
[19:30] <Quest> can anyone explain the elements of ProxyPass and proxypassrevers ? in context to apache
[19:30] <Allexz> Hey guys, hope you dont mind another noob question in here, im quite new to ubuntu in general and when i sudo apt-get install phablet-tools i get the following error: The following packages have unmet dependencies:  phablet-tools : Depends: python-requests but it is not installable.... please halp =)
[19:30] <SonikkuAmerica> pranav: How much RAM?
[19:31] <pranav> SonikkuAmerica: 4GB
[19:31] <ccoil> SonikkuAmerica: The "might" here frightends me as I've already tried countless times. :(  it just saddens my that Ubuntu with all it's UI beauty, "forgets" to include very common drivers for Wifi and Graphics card(s). It also seems to drive my computer crazy perfromance-wise. It drains my entire battery in about 30 minutes, whereas Widnows 7 lasts about 2 hours +. It also smells like burnt rubber in my room after a couple of minutes :s
[19:31] <SonikkuAmerica> pranav: You're fine with 32-bit. If you had 8 GB or an i7, you should probably use the 64-bit version, but 32-bit is fine.
[19:31] <pranav> ccoil: what did you do ?
[19:32] <ccoil> I isntalled the Ubuntu for Windows and booted up
[19:32] <contrapunctus> pranav - India? :)
[19:33] <SonikkuAmerica> ccoil: Wubi? No wonder. These days, it's better to partition.
[19:33] <pranav> SonikkuAmerica: hope so. i heard i can only fully consume my 4GB if I'd 64bit. But then again, reinstalling ubuntu is tedious with all my customizations.
[19:33] <pranav> contrapunctus: yes man
[19:33] <ccoil> Wubi yes. Really? So that's what the problem is? I thought wubi WAS a separate partionion (or as good as)..
[19:34] <SonikkuAmerica> pranav: Unless you plan on holding onto that install until 2038
[19:34] <tgm4883> I wouldn't say wubi is THE issue.  It's just an issue
[19:34] <contrapunctus> pranav - Ha, same here. City?
[19:34] <mmn> has anyone experience with uefi based computers and ubuntu?
[19:34] <Allexz> I have a silly question as a linuxbeginner.... when using sudo apt-get and or install, how do you figure out what the packages are called? is there a list system or such? Example Python, how do i find out that the package is actually named "Python3" ?
[19:34] <ccoil> So, if I did a seperate partion on my acer 7750g with Radeon gfx, Broadcom wifi, Intel i5;  it would work fluently; and the drivers would automatically install themselves?
[19:35] <llutz> Allexz: apt-cache search "pattern"
[19:35] <contrapunctus> Allexz - You usually know the exact package name. I don't use the CLI for installs, but there's got to be some command to list stuff.
[19:35] <ben_> Allexz: you might search for files in packages using apt-file
[19:36] <tgm4883> CoilDomain, probably not, but that is because you've got broadcom wifi and an ATI/AMD card
[19:36] <pranav> SonikkuAmerica:  whats in 2038 :D
[19:36] <ben_> apt-file search bin/foobar
[19:36] <tgm4883> err, ccoil ^^
[19:36] <tgm4883> pranav, the end of the unix world
[19:36] <SonikkuAmerica> pranav: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2038_problem
[19:36] <ccoil> It also puzzles me, that the only way to install additional drivers in a user friendly fashion, the "Additional Drivers"-app, was removed in 12.10? Why?? Writing "Driver" in the Ubuntu/Unity line gives me Nothing?? :P  The most common task imaginable for a fresh install..
[19:36] <Allexz> Thanks all.
[19:37] <tgm4883> ccoil, it was moved into the software centre
[19:37] <DJones> ccoil: THe additional drivers appears under System Settings -> Software Sources -> Additional drivers from 12.10
[19:37] <ccoil> but why? It just makes it infinitely more tedious for a newcomer
[19:38] <tgm4883> ccoil, any answer I have for that would be speculating
[19:38] <ns-nazri> how to remove icon application in the menu
[19:39] <thiefy> i have an install of lubuntu... i use it as a server, can i boot the OS into "server mode"  meaning, no  X.   like, boot it to just a command line. and then ssh into it and / or just run things using ssh -X
[19:39] <histo> ns-nazri: right-click unlock from launcher
[19:39] <ccoil> DJones: aha. Now that's somehting. But why doesn't Ubuntu help me with that by default? Typing "driver" in the Unity line should be more than sufficient? Why make me google/IRC for hours? hmmm...
[19:39] <histo> !who | thiefy
[19:39] <pranav> SonikkuAmerica: never knew those C programming concepts would come in handy ;)
[19:39] <contrapunctus> SonikkuAmerica, interesting link. Surely there'll be a patch?
[19:39] <histo> ccoil: jockey-gtk  ???
[19:39] <thiefy> uhh, i'm asking a question mr histo
[19:40] <DJones> ccoil: I don't know why they changed it, it is confusing though, I agree there
[19:40] <SonikkuAmerica> contrapunctus: Who knows? Maybe by then we'll all be running x64-based stuff.
[19:40] <llutz> !nox | thiefy
[19:40] <contrapunctus> SonikkuAmerica...true, true..
[19:40] <histo> thiefy: That's a question?
[19:40] <Genscher__> maybe this question sounds stupid..but: How do I *really* power down my Ubuntu server? It always goes into some suspension mode where wake on lan is still active.
[19:40] <histo> thiefy: ahh yes I see it now. Sorry I'm going crazy
[19:40] <contrapunctus> lol histo
[19:41] <thiefy> histo,  yes, i'm dreadfully sorry i forgot the question mark at the end as it was a run-on sentence... heh.
[19:41] <histo> thiefy: Yeah you could disable lightdm or whatever login manager you are using. the machine would then boot in cli mode.
[19:41] <metal_wraith> i'm so tempted to try ubuntu touch on my nexus 7. but also don't think it would be as productive as i am with it while android is on it just yet.
[19:41] <DJones> histo: jockey-gtk is a fake package in 12.10, since they moved additional drivers, there's been a bug that you have to install jockey-gtk, but when you run it you're told it needs to installed
[19:41]  * histo slaps himself
[19:41] <tgm4883> metal_wraith, it's a developer preview. It's almost impossible to be productive with it
[19:41] <histo> DJones: They moved additional drivers to where? I still have jockey-text
[19:41] <subthalamus> I'm running regular fglrx on precise with a ATI Mobility X700 and it runs like cow dung ; would there be any advantage to using fglrx-experimental-9 or do I need to try to find and install a binary driver?
[19:42] <SonikkuAmerica> histo: Was that a recursive slap? :)
[19:42] <histo> -R
[19:42] <thiefy> thanks histo and llutz
[19:42] <DJones> histo: THe additional drivers appears under System Settings -> Software Sources -> Additional drivers from 12.10 (jockey-text still exists, just jockey-gtk causes confusion)
[19:43] <ccoil> If Ubuntu ever were to gain some success among "ordinary users" it should at least be intuitive for a technical person (like myself) (been programming since age 11; 23 y.o. now). Having to go through so much effort just to get the wifi working should be unacceptable. I even did the "update software" thing where it updated its software for aobut an hour -- Still no drivers ? :|
[19:43] <histo> llutz: that factoid needs updated
[19:43] <subthalamus> just need it to run vlc nicely
[19:43] <histo> ccoil: What version of ubuntu do you have?
[19:43] <tgm4883> ccoil, personally, I'd blame broadcom
[19:43] <histo> DJones: ahh
[19:43] <N105> hello my wlan is too slow, with ubuntu when i use windows is too quick
[19:44] <thiefy> ccoil,  sometimes you just get unlucky with your network card drivers.  i've had ti just just work perfectly, and some other computers it takes a LOT of reading to get it to work correctly.
[19:44] <ccoil> histo: 12.10 through "Wubi"
[19:44] <thiefy> i agree with tgm4883 - my prob was with broadcom....
[19:44] <histo> ccoil: It's an issue with the manufacturer of your card not providing firmware. It's not open. Not linux's fault.
[19:45] <thiefy> how come windows doesn't have this driver problem - it's not open for windows either...
[19:45] <metal_wraith> tgm4883 - i realize that.. i'm just tempted to play around with it. granted my tablet rooted, etc
[19:45] <Vivekananda> hello everyone. Running a distribution upgrade on a old system with lucid. It is giving me insufficient space warnings. Here is my df -ha .http://pastebin.com/qdaPwfcg
[19:45] <histo> thiefy: Because broadcom says it's okay to distribute the firmware with the windows drivers
[19:45] <tgm4883> thiefy, i'd call it less "luck" and more "the manufacturer of your wifi drivers is crappy and needs to open source their drivers (or at least provide linux drivers for it)"
[19:45] <Vivekananda> hlepp
[19:45] <ccoil> histo: I see. So that means I will have to buy a new laptop to be able to run Ubuntu? Is there a particular brand that is supported?
[19:45] <tgm4883> ccoil, lots
[19:45] <histo> ccoil: No you can just install the broadcom firmware if that is what type of card you have.
[19:45] <histo> ccoil: what does lspci   show?
[19:45] <tgm4883> metal_wraith, I've installed it, there isn't much to play with
[19:46] <histo> ccoil: I was just explaining why it didn't work out of the box.
[19:46] <tgm4883> ccoil, also, you might be able to just replace the wifi card in it
[19:46] <histo> tgm4883: Why replace the card when he can just install the firmware.
[19:47] <metal_wraith> tgm4883 - thanks for the info on that.
[19:47] <tgm4883> histo, well yea. I was just saying that in response to him thinking he needs a new laptop
[19:47] <Vivekananda> ??
[19:47] <ccoil> histo, tm4883: actually, when I think about it, I *did* get the wifi to work once on 12.04 thanks to the "Additional Drivers"-app. But on 12.10 it's gone and stalls forever when trying to install it from ubuntu software center :[
[19:47] <tgm4883> !tab | ccoil
[19:47] <subthalamus> I'm running regular fglrx on precise with a ATI Mobility X700 and it runs like cow dung ; would there be any advantage to using fglrx-experimental-9 or do I need to try to find and install a binary driver? I just need to run 720P videos in vlc without choppiness :/
[19:47] <ccoil> !tab | ccoil
[19:48] <biloo> oops
[19:48] <histo> ccoil: It's under software sources now
[19:48] <pranav> if its different 32bit and 64 bit.. why is it in the same file: wget http://dl.dropbox.com/u/47950494/upubuntu.com/kernel-3.8 -O kernel-3.8 
[19:48] <histo> ccoil: or you can run jockey-text  in a terminal
[19:49] <ccoil> just write "jockey-text"; that's it?
[19:49] <tgm4883> pranav, because you are downloading a script
[19:49] <tgm4883> pranav, and that script downloads the right arch
[19:49] <pranav> i nkow
[19:49] <pranav> *know
[19:49] <rudivs> is there some tool I can use to try to recover data from a written cd that comes up as blank?
[19:50] <histo> ccoil: Click ont he gear by the clock under system > software sources > there is an additional drivers tab like you are used to.
[19:50] <tgm4883> pranav, I don't understand your question
[19:50] <ccoil> histo: arlight, i'll try once more.  I really want to use ubuntu. thanks :)  (i'll brb)
[19:50] <Vivekananda> hey everyone I deleted a couple of folders in /home to make space but a LTS upgrade still complains about no space. What should I delete ?
[19:50] <ikonia> Vivekananda: whatever is taking up your space/what you don't need
[19:51] <tgm4883> Vivekananda, how is your partitioning setup?
[19:51] <pranav> tgm4883: sry, i just read the script. its so readable :) there are conditions based on 32 or 64 systems :) thanks anyway
[19:51] <jimboman77> Hello.  I accidently placed my home directory on my SSD drive so I only have 4GB of free space.  I was wondering if there was a way for me to make a new account or resolve this somehow without having to reinstall ubuntu again because I want to save the hassle?
[19:51] <Vivekananda> it is here http://pastebin.com/qdaPwfcg
[19:51] <N105> hello my wlan is too slow, with ubuntu when i use windows is too quick
[19:51] <llutz> Vivekananda: sudo apt-get clean
[19:51] <tgm4883> pranav, yes there are. You run the script, the script figures out if you need to download 32-bit or 64-bit, then downloads the right version
[19:51] <Bodsda> Vivekananda: chances are its complaining about lack of space on / not /home
[19:51] <tgm4883> pranav, it does it for you so you don't have to
[19:51] <Vivekananda> yes it is
[19:51] <histo> Who in their infinate wisdom decided that is a good place for additional drivers?
[19:51] <llutz> Vivekananda: removing stuff from $HOME won't help, its on an own partition. you need to free space on /
[19:52] <Vivekananda> and I know it but how do I remove something from root ? and what should I remove ?
[19:52] <Vivekananda> havent the faintest
[19:52] <pranav> tgm4883: so, do you find any performance of certain h/d or any differences personally ?
[19:52] <histo> N105: How are you testing it's speed?
[19:52] <brontosaurusrex> Vivekananda, apt-get autoremove does something?
[19:52] <pranav> after upgrade :P
[19:52] <histo> pranav: SSD
[19:52] <tgm4883> histo, I'll agree that is a bad spot for it, but being in the software center is a good thing
[19:52] <Vivekananda> brontosaurusrex: sudo apt-get clean does nothing
[19:53] <pranav> SSD file-system
[19:53] <tgm4883> pranav, SSD's are pretty fast
[19:53] <histo> Vivekananda: logs apt-get clean  will remove cached packages
[19:53] <Vivekananda> am trying autoremove in a 2-3 mins
[19:53] <N105> histo: when i ping when i open a link on the browser...
[19:53] <Vivekananda> histo: will try that
[19:53] <Vivekananda> have run the upgrade via cli again
[19:53] <biloo> oops
[19:53] <Vivekananda> waiting for it to finish
[19:53] <Vivekananda> or end with an error
[19:53] <Bodsda> Vivekananda: for info, clearing the apt cache is a temporary fix - chances are you'll fill it again
[19:53] <histo> Vivekananda: /var/log  /tmp    /var/apt/cache  /var/cache  etc...
[19:53] <histo> Vivekananda: remove old kernels that you don't boot to
[19:54] <pranav> wow.. just when i was going to buy a nice SSD
[19:54] <histo> Vivekananda: ^^^^^ that will help the most
[19:54] <Vivekananda> histo: I just always keep 2 olds. the last and the penultimate one
[19:54] <Vivekananda> they free up like ~300 megs
[19:54] <Vivekananda> or 400 megs
[19:54] <Vivekananda> but it is asking me to free 1.4 gigs !!
[19:54] <histo> Vivekananda: How big is /
[19:55] <tgm4883> Vivekananda, you have a pretty small /
[19:55] <compdoc> ssd can make a slow system seem fast
[19:55] <tgm4883> histo, it's 9.2G
[19:55] <tgm4883> total
[19:55] <histo> tgm4883: that's plenty big
[19:55] <tgm4883> histo, http://pastebin.com/qdaPwfcg
[19:55] <tgm4883> histo, meh, I like to make mine about 15
[19:55] <Bodsda> Vivekananda: your other option is to not partition - just leave everything under / - that pastebin looks like you only have 15GB for ubuntu
[19:55] <Vivekananda> tgm4883: yep I have an old computer , faithful and so that iswhat i have to work with :)
[19:56] <tgm4883> histo, I mean,  you could go smaller if you've got separate partitions for /var and such
[19:56] <BluesKaj> tgm4883, FYI , /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base doesn't write the nameserver nettings to /etc/resolv , only /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base does ..i tested the settings and i couldn't connect to the interenet with the base settings
[19:56] <Vivekananda> Bodsda: yep but I wanted to keep home separate and 10 gigs worked great for the past few years for me :(
[19:57] <histo> Vivekananda: What all are you storing in / that should be plenty of space
[19:57] <tgm4883> BluesKaj, you mean ...../head?
[19:57] <ccoil>  histo: I'm back @ ubuntu 12.10 this time. Went to the "Additional Drivers" tab under software sources. I switched them on, and clicked "Apply", but then 2 seconds later they bump back :[
[19:57] <BluesKaj> tgm4883, oops yes , /head
[19:58] <tgm4883> histo, I'd assume, installed programs
[19:58] <tgm4883> BluesKaj, odd, it should do that. Let me test a bit
[19:58] <zerick> hi, anybody knows if it is possible - I mean, the normal way, not forcing - to install Varnish 2.1 on Ubuntu 12.04 ?
[19:59] <ccoil> what was this jockey-command called again?
[19:59] <llutz> BluesKaj: your resolvconf is broken then
[19:59] <brontosaurusrex> ccoil, type jock and hit tab (auto-completition)
[19:59] <Bodsda> zerick: I have no idea what varnish 2.1 is, but what issues do you get installing it?
[19:59] <BluesKaj> llutz, let me check
[20:00] <Vivekananda> Hey everyone , sudo apt-get distr-upgrade ran from cli with the following ouput. Does it look if it was ok ?? or is there a problem ?? http://pastebin.com/kEM3Xh07
[20:00] <llutz> BluesKaj: basically resolvconf  does "cat head base tail >/etc/resolv.conf"
[20:00] <llutz> (simplified)
[20:00] <N105> histo: ??
[20:00] <Vivekananda> histo: I installed ns3 simulator once and since then never cleaned up :(
[20:00] <mdh> vivekananda does the system still boot?
[20:00] <Vivekananda> that was a monster file
[20:01] <zerick> Bodsda: it's not available for that version, I need Varsnish 2.1, the current repo provides the 3.0 version
[20:01] <Vivekananda> mdh I have not tried booting
[20:01] <Vivekananda> I want to make sure it atleast looks ok before trying to switch off otherwise this is the only system I have for internet :(
[20:01] <x0auser> hi guys ! why i turn on my computer, it take a long time to have the menu of grub ! but when i remove my usb mouse i don't have any problem.. how to resolve this please ?
[20:01] <Bodsda> Vivekananda: It looks succesful, but you have duplicate sources issues
[20:01] <llutz> BluesKaj: change those files and run "sudo resolvconf -u", check /etc/resolv.conf after
[20:02] <Vivekananda> Bodsda: I am hoping that is a minor issue
[20:02] <Vivekananda> shoudld I try rebooting now ?
[20:02] <Bodsda> Vivekananda: it is
[20:02] <Bodsda> Vivekananda: yes
[20:02] <Vivekananda> what should I see when
[20:02] <ccoil> bruntosaurusrex, "jock" + <tab> does nothing. does that mean it's not installed +
[20:02] <Vivekananda> the reboot happens. Also this was a dual boot xp + lucid computer
[20:02] <Vivekananda> I am hoping I will see both again
[20:02] <Vivekananda> or not ??
[20:03] <Vivekananda> during the boot up selection menu. ( It was visible earlier )
[20:03] <Bodsda> Vivekananda: I didn't see grub update, if xp was missing from your grub menu then it still may not be there
[20:03] <Vivekananda> Bodsda: thanks. Booting up now . Fingers crossed :)
[20:03]  * Bodsda x
[20:04] <brontosaurusrex> ccoil, yeps
[20:04] <Bodsda> zerick: you'll need to pin the repo package so it doesnt update, then use a 2.1 .deb from somewhere else
[20:05] <ccoil> Connected my ethernet cable, did it again, and it seems to actually install now. Woa! Wifi may actually work now! :D
[20:05] <Angtaga> Hello everybody
[20:06] <Angtaga> I installed the i3 window manager recently. How can I change in Ubuntu 11.10 the standard window manager to i3?
[20:06] <johnflux__> On my laptop I'm getting graphics corruption
[20:06] <Bodsda> Angtaga: on the login screen, there is a small icon to the right of your name, click on it and select the new WM - your choice will be remembered
[20:06] <johnflux__> How can I see what graphics chip I have, from the command line?
[20:07] <Bodsda> johnflux__: lspci
[20:07] <zerick> Bodsda: Ok, ok, the thing is that it is not supported for 12.04. I'll change my question a little bit, is there any big difference between the 12.04 version and the one before ?
[20:07] <llutz> johnflux__: lspci | grep  -i vga
[20:07] <Bodsda> zerick: as long as their aren't any dependency conflicts, you should be fine
[20:07] <johnflux__> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[20:07] <Angtaga> Bodsda thank! I'll try this :) Back in a minute ;)
[20:07] <brontosaurusrex> zerick, 12.04 is lts
[20:07] <Bodsda> Angtaga: good luck
[20:08] <ccoil> Is there a way to get my pc to "relax" a little? My PC smells like burned rubber here from just browsing the web (and it's a pretty new computer). I don't understand what it's working so hard on :S, i'm not doing anything. Battert lasts like 30 minutes, while 2h hours+ on windows 7 :/
[20:08] <Vivekananda> booted back. Still on lucid . No changes :(
[20:08] <zerick> brontosaurusrex: If I install a package from 11.10, no problem?
[20:08] <tgm4883> ccoil, what laptop?
[20:08] <ccoil> Acer 7750g
[20:08] <mdh> burning smell is not good.
[20:08] <genii-around> johnflux__: You can also do: sudo lshw -C video   which gives some more detailed info, look at the line: product    for model etc, and line: configuration   to see what driver it's using right now
[20:08] <tgm4883> ccoil, what video card?
[20:08] <ccoil> Radeon 6600M
[20:09] <llutz> histo: aja intel HD Graphics 4000
[20:09] <brontosaurusrex> zerick, no idea
[20:09] <Bodsda> Vivekananda: run the upgrade again and check how many packages it want's to install this tim
[20:09] <mdh> ccoil which browser, and do you use flash?
[20:09] <Bodsda> time*
[20:09] <tgm4883> ccoil, does that have switchable graphics?
[20:09] <ccoil> 6650m *   Firefox. And I'm this webchat is my only tab
[20:09] <tgm4883> ccoil, also, do you have the proprietary drivers installed?
[20:09] <Vivekananda> Bodsda: should I not run the clean commands first and probably delete something before running again ?
[20:10] <johnflux__> genii-around: ah, that says the i915
[20:10] <Bodsda> Vivekananda: I'm not suggesting actually accepting the install, just see how many packages it wants to upgrade
[20:10] <johnflux__> Don't suppose anyone knows why I'd be getting lots of screen corruption?
[20:10] <ccoil> It's not browsing, but just having my pc with ubuntu on in general.  Right now "amd accelerators from fglrx-updates (propertiatry)" (nvm the spelling)
[20:10] <mdh> johnflux__ is it getting too hot?
[20:10] <Vivekananda> Bodsda: should I run sudo apt-get distr-upgardge from cli and post the output ?
[20:10] <genii-around> :-/ The 915 driver is notoriously problemmatic
[20:11] <Bodsda> Vivekananda: yeah - but say no to the prompts
[20:11] <tgm4883> ccoil, what is the output of 'aticonfig --pxl'
[20:11] <johnflux__> mdh: nah I don't think that's the problem - I get the corruption from startup
[20:11] <Vivekananda> the result is --- Calculating upgrade... Done
[20:11] <Vivekananda> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[20:12] <Vivekananda> for the command ---sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:12] <ccoil> tgm4883: no layout section found
[20:12] <Bodsda> Vivekananda: whats the output of 'lsb_release -a' ?
[20:12] <genii-around> johnflux__: What says the vendor:product code for that card in the output from: lspci -nn   ( the part like (8086:abcd) )
[20:12] <tgm4883> ccoil, does the catalyst config center show the GPU temp?
[20:13] <mdh> johnflux__ have you tried to use another desktop enviornment rather than unity?
[20:13] <histo> Vivekananda: apt-get purge whatever app you installed before. To completely remove it.
[20:13] <ccoil> tgm4883: I dont believe I have "catalyst control center" atm (on Ubuntu)
[20:13] <brontosaurusrex> ccoil, what laptop is it?
[20:13] <ccoil> tgm4883: I found it. Sorry. It told me no AMD driver was currently installed
[20:14] <Vivekananda> histo: Should I run it now ? I dont remeber what app I installed before coz it was a while back. Are you telling me ways to remove broken installs ???/
[20:14] <subthalamus> I'm running regular fglrx on precise with a ATI Mobility X700 and it runs like cow dung ; would there be any advantage to using fglrx-experimental-9 or do I need to try to find and install a binary driver? I need to run 720P video in vlc minus choppiness :/
[20:14] <tgm4883> ccoil, yea, looking into this. I would bet that both your graphics cards are on
[20:14] <Vivekananda> Bodsda: http://pastebin.com/4rSMwd6n
[20:14] <tgm4883> ccoil, I had the same issue
[20:14] <Younder> How do I connect to all in one multicard reader from a ubuntu server?
[20:14] <ccoil> tgm4883: very possible. How do I install the driver since it's obviosuly(?) not installed atm(?)?
[20:15] <tgm4883> ccoil, 'fglrxinfo'?
[20:15] <brontosaurusrex> subthalamus, you want hardware accelerated h.264 decoding from card? did you try mplayer? choppy there as well?
[20:15] <agu10^> hi
[20:15] <ccoil> tgm4883:  error failed request.  BadAlloc
[20:15] <agu10^> Hey guys! (:
[20:15] <ramblingpirate> Hello all
[20:15] <tgm4883> ccoil, I followed something similar to  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1930450
[20:15] <tgm4883> ccoil, I say similar, because I've got a 7600m
[20:15] <Bodsda> Vivekananda: run 'update-manager -d' -- is there a bar at the top advertising a new version?
[20:15] <tgm4883> ccoil, although your laptop is listed there I think
[20:16] <Angtagapagligt> Hey Bodsda ... this worked great - thanks again :) I'm only with i3 window manager :)
[20:16] <Angtagapagligt> bye
[20:16] <Vivekananda> Bodsda: Yes.
[20:16] <Bodsda> Angtagapagligt: have you tried fluxbox?
[20:16] <jak2000> hi all, how to rename 1000 files? i am connected to server via FTP i try: prompt; mv *.* *.old   but not work :(  any advice?
[20:16] <Bodsda> Vivekananda: what happens if you click upgrade?
[20:16] <subthalamus> brontosaurusrex: I have not, does mplayer consistently handle h.264 better for some reason?
[20:16] <Angtagapagligt> Bodsda: Yeah ... but it wasn't my favourite... :/ Do you like it?
[20:17] <pygmalion> Somehow I have ended up in a state where uname and the arch command both suggest that I am on an x86_64 architecture, but `file /sbin/init` suggests that I am on a 32 bit architecture (as do dpkg and apt-get). Any idea how that could happen and how I can move everything to 64 bit?
[20:17] <Younder> How do I connect to all in one multicard reader from a ubuntu server?
[20:17] <Vivekananda> It starts with the release notes and an upgrade button down below.
[20:17] <subthalamus> brontosaurusrex: kind of need to use vlc, but I could test with mplayer just to find out
[20:17] <brontosaurusrex> subthalamus, the cli version is faster than vlc for me (generally speaking)
[20:17] <Bodsda> Angtagapagligt: I'm a die hard fluxbox user - can't stand traditional WM's/DE's
[20:17] <genii-around> Younder: When you plug a card into it, do: dmesg|tail       and it will let you know if that card is like sdb,sdc,sdd   or so on. Then you can mount usually the first partition of that disk by something like: sudo mount /dev/sdX# /mnt   where X is the letter you saw from dmesg and # is usually 1 for the first partition
[20:17] <Vivekananda> Bodsda: is fluxbox good for all purposes that gnome are including things like compiz and stuff
[20:18] <Angtagapagligt> Bodsda: But i3 isn't that traditional, too :P What do you like especially about fluxbox?
[20:18] <Vivekananda> but I would worry about then later I guess
[20:18] <genii-around> Younder: Alternately, make a directory under /media and use that instead of /mnt in the command
[20:18] <Bodsda> jak2000: for loop - http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/shell-geek-rename-multiple-files-at-once/
[20:18] <ccoil> tgm4883: Thanks. doing the guide now. hopefully it'll work. Did yours use to overheat as well?
[20:18] <Bodsda> Vivekananda: fluxbox is very lightweight - you wouldn't want to try and run fluxbox with compiz
[20:18] <Vivekananda> Should I press the upgrade ?
[20:18] <jak2000> Bodsda but via FTP can i do this?
[20:18] <subthalamus> brontosaurusrex: so no advantage to either of the other drivers?
[20:18] <tgm4883> ccoil, yep. got really hot, about 1 hour battery life
[20:18] <Vivekananda> Bodsda: I want to try something ligther on my very old lappy
[20:19] <Bodsda> Angtagapagligt: I like the tabbable/joinable windows and the right click menu system
[20:19] <subthalamus> brontosaurusrex: trying mplayer in a sec
[20:19] <Vivekananda> I probably will get that distro
[20:19] <Bodsda> Vivekananda: fluxbox is a good start for an old machine
[20:19] <brontosaurusrex> Vivekananda, if you want lighter de, id suggest crunchbang (debian + openbox nicely preconfigured, no compiz effects there)
[20:19] <tgm4883> ccoil, also, the guide references the 12.4 driver, but the 13.1 driver is out. I believe i used 13.1
[20:19] <Goranek> DWM is great for old machine !!! :)
[20:19] <Bodsda> jak2000: hhmm, not sure - maybe not, you need a bash prompt
[20:19] <Vivekananda> Bodsda: I will try for sure . Just want my eclipse juno emacs tomcat and sql to run
[20:19] <nyuszika7h> hi, when I boot any Linux live USB I get the error "EDD: Error X reading sector Y" a lot of times and/or graphical glitches. I've tried Kubuntu 12.10, openSUSE 12.3 and SliTaZ 4.0, all three have the error. I've tried two USB sticks and 4 ports, same issue. the mouse works fine though, so where's the problem?
[20:19] <Goranek> Vivekananda: try DWM..it's super light
[20:19] <histo> Vivekananda: you could locate teh files for the old app and just delete them manually
[20:19] <Angtagapagligt> Bodsda: Maybe I install fluxbox again... :) Have you tried i3?
[20:20] <tgm4883> ccoil, also, I've not messed with it in a few months, but I couldn't get unity to show up using the integrated card, so I only use the discrete card now
[20:20] <Bodsda> Vivekananda: yep, they will be fine - just run  sudo apt-get install fluxbox fbsetbg
[20:20] <Bodsda> Angtagapagligt: nope, but I might give it a go later on tonight -- best features?
[20:20] <Vivekananda> histo: this is one problem I always have with ubuntu. I have no clue of what the apps were that I installed ONCE upon a time and why . I windows they are always visible with icons and stuff but here there is no such help :(
[20:21] <Vivekananda> Bodsda: That I sure will but what now
[20:21] <Vivekananda> should I run the upgrade ? again ?
[20:21] <Vivekananda> It will again complain about no space as it did before
[20:21] <BluesKaj> llutz, my resolv.conf seems fine , it's similar to /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head the file that writes to it.
[20:21] <Bodsda> Vivekananda: erm, yeah sorry where are we - have you tried accepting the dit upgrade via the graphical update-manager -d?
[20:21] <Angtagapagligt> Bodsda: It's really really fast to handle if you learned the keybindings (they are not too hard ;)) and it's really lightweight...
[20:22] <Vivekananda> Bodsda: should I accept knowing full well it is going to complain for space again on root ?
[20:22] <Angtagapagligt> Bodsda, I think you would like it ;P
[20:22] <subthalamus> brontosaurusrex: hmm, mplayer just shows a blank screen and no sound
[20:23] <ccoil> tgm4883: Is it really worht the effort? :P  The one thing I want the most from Linux/Ubutnu is improved UI (&Customization); => so that i can be more productive when I develop software. I guess a alternative UI for windwos would've been easier; but there doesn't seem to be anything viable :S kind of strange given how big the windows userbase is
[20:23] <Vivekananda> Bodsda: Also will the upgrade install gnome or unity by default. I would like to have a lesser heavy distro and not use unity coz my sys is old
[20:23] <brontosaurusrex> subthalamus, its doesnt find any usefull drivers then, or your config is borked
[20:23] <llutz> BluesKaj: basically resolvconf  does (simplified) "cat head base tail >/etc/resolv.conf". so it is normal that your /etc/resolv.conf has content of the head-file
[20:23] <tgm4883> ccoil, the guide? I'd say yea
[20:23] <BluesKaj> llutz, as far as I can tell /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base  doesn't write to /etc/resolv.conf
[20:23] <brontosaurusrex> subthalamus, you can force different outputs via cli thought
[20:24] <Vivekananda> Bodsda: should I accept knowing full well it is going to complain for space again on root ?
[20:24] <llutz> BluesKaj: it does and it has to. if it doesn't for you, something is broken.
[20:24] <Bodsda> Vivekananda: no, give me a few mins
[20:24] <Vivekananda> ok :)
[20:24] <ccoil> tgm4883: The only alterntive shells around seem to be very unproductive and gimmicky. e.g. a fucking spaceship for a cursor :P lol. is there anyone older than 12 who would want this? :P
[20:24] <ecret> just added a new user, in the shell of new user I see:     $      I can't backspace or anything.  If I type bash it fixes it but then it doesn't work the next time i login and i need to type exit twice to quit.  How do I fix this?
[20:25] <bekks> ecret: Which shell did you specify?
[20:25] <brontosaurusrex> ccoil, what shell is that?
[20:25] <tgm4883> ccoil, I use unity, I just have to use the discrete video card rather than the integrated one
[20:25] <bekks> brontosaurusrex: could be ksh
[20:25] <llutz> ecret: sudo chsh -s /bin/bash USERNAME
[20:25] <brontosaurusrex> oh
[20:25] <genii-around> nyuszika7h: "sector Y" physical bad location on the usb or hd
[20:26] <ecret> bekks: just a regular shell
[20:26] <Vivekananda> histo: In windows the icons and the "about" of a program told me what I needed to know and if I needed it anymore or not . In ubuntu or linux how do I find the similar stuff out? I have no clue what I installed or what space it is taking and if I should remove it. Also no clue what is eating up ~10 gbs
[20:26] <bekks> ecret: Which shell?
[20:26] <ecret> llutz: worked, thanks! I swear I had this issue before too
[20:26] <ccoil> tgm4883: yea. unity is really nice. so many options, virtual desktops, window arrangement hotkeys etc. it's a shame there's nothing equivallent for windows
[20:26] <ecret> bekks: it was ssh
[20:26] <bekks> ecret: Every shell is a regular shell.
[20:26] <bekks> ecret: ssh is not a shell.
[20:26] <tgm4883> ccoil, so use Unity? I'm not sure what you're asking
[20:27] <brontosaurusrex> subthalamus, mplayer -vo help
[20:27] <ecret> bekks: it works now but i am curious if you can explain that
[20:27] <nyuszika7h> genii-around: booting from a live CD works, but both my USB sticks give that error... how can I fix that?
[20:27] <ecret> when adding the user i just did useradd and includeed its path
[20:27] <subthalamus> brontosaurusrex: workin on it, still think i should be changing drivers though..?
[20:28] <bekks> ecret: Well, using ksh as your shell, the default prompt is "$", there is no backspace like in bash, etc.
[20:28] <brontosaurusrex> subthalamus, yes, you should
[20:28] <llutz> ecret: hint: use adduser next time
[20:28] <ccoil> tgm4883: Unity is Linux-only(?). i'm just saying: the only reason I go through all htis effort to get ubuntu up and running, is so that i can enjoy unity;  apart from that i see no real advntage in linux
[20:28] <bekks> ecret: So I was wonderung which shell you were using actually.
[20:28] <subthalamus> brontosaurusrex: so back to my original question
[20:28] <ecret> bekks: osx terminal
[20:28] <tgm4883> ccoil, ah, I understand now
[20:28] <ecret> llutz: hah i used user add.  my bad!!
[20:28] <bekks> ecret: Thats not a shell.
[20:29] <genii-around> nyuszika7h: Maybe after put the image onto the usb stick, do a filesystem check on it before booting it up
[20:29] <Bodsda> Vivekananda: can you pastebin the output of this   'sudo find / -size +1000M -ls'
[20:29] <mdh> bash is a shell.
[20:29] <subthalamus> brontosaurusrex: fglrx-experimental-9 or is there a binary i should use somewhere?
[20:29] <ecret> bash then
[20:29] <brontosaurusrex> subthalamus, no idea
[20:29] <Vivekananda> sure hold on
[20:29] <bekks> ecret: bash has a different prompt an backspace works.
[20:29] <llutz> ecret: should do too, "adduser" is just a handy wrapper-script around
[20:29] <bekks> ecret: So it couldnt have been bash.
[20:29] <mdh> i think osx uses bash
[20:30] <Quest> ikonia,  are you there?
[20:30] <nyuszika7h> genii-around: chkdsk /F /R /X H: found no issues
[20:30] <bekks> mdh: Which is irrelevant, since OSX isnt Ubuntu :)
[20:30] <genii-around> nyuszika7h: Hm, ntfs
[20:30] <nyuszika7h> the USB stick is formatted FAT32
[20:30] <nyuszika7h> I've tried both LiLi (Linux Live USB Creator) and UNetbootin, btw
[20:30] <brontosaurusrex> ccoil, servers, learning, no viruses, infinite configurability
[20:30] <mdh> bekks: he said osx terminal, i think its bash
[20:30] <Bodsda> nyuszika7h: did you check the MD5's after download?
[20:31] <Vivekananda> Bodsda: it is taking a decent bit of time
[20:31] <nyuszika7h> Bodsda: yes, the download manager did it for me, and LiLi verified it too
[20:31] <bekks> mdh: The OSX terminal is available on OSX only, and, in addition, it isnt a shell :)
[20:31] <brontosaurusrex> ccoil, thats /my view only, of course
[20:31] <Bodsda> Vivekananda: thats fine, it's enumerating every file on your system
[20:31] <Bodsda> Vivekananda: has it ouput anything?
[20:31] <mdh> bekks: i was just trying to tell him that that 'shell' was really bash
[20:31] <Vivekananda> yep so will wait to finish it
[20:31] <Vivekananda> I have an old system :)
[20:32] <BluesKaj> llutz, dnsmasq perhaps ?
[20:32] <SonikkuAmerica> nyuszika7h: Are you trying this from Windows?
[20:32] <nyuszika7h> SonikkuAmerica: trying what?
[20:32] <nyuszika7h> burning the ISO? yes
[20:32] <bekks> mdh: That shell want really bash, since we are talking about Ubuntu, and not OSX.
[20:32] <brontosaurusrex> Vivekananda, another interesting app for diskspace usage analisis is ncdu
[20:32] <bekks> mdh: And bash behaves differently from what he told us.
[20:32] <nyuszika7h> the SliTaZ ISO works fine in a VM (but not on the actual computer - same error as with the others); the others get stuck in the boot process, I guess I shouldn't expect much from an Intel Pentium M 740 without hardware virtualization... (this is my old laptop, the other one is being repaired because the graphics card is broken)
[20:32] <Bodsda> Vivekananda: old systems are great - people pay me to take them away and then I repurpose them as media centers or servers
[20:32] <mdh> bekks: the osx terminal emulator i meant.
[20:33] <SonikkuAmerica> nyuszika7h: That's what I meant. Have you tried any of the solutions at http://pendrivelinux.com/?
[20:33] <bekks> mdh: Lets pass this. OSX isnt a support issue in here, and the terminal emulators and shell used on OSX are irrelevant to Ubuntu.
[20:33] <Vivekananda> Bodsda: I love my old system. Just that ides are getting heavier and so are the office things I need for word processing
[20:33] <Bodsda> Vivekananda: VIM for life :)
[20:33] <nyuszika7h> vim++
[20:34] <pablognu> Hello to all
[20:34] <mdh> emacs, son.
[20:34] <Vivekananda> Bodsda: yes I like vim too but debugging java in vim is not what I am familiarwith
[20:34] <majukarma> vim is enougth
[20:34] <Bodsda> mdh: get out :)
[20:34] <Vivekananda> I love both vim and emacs
[20:34] <brontosaurusrex> Vivekananda, alternative de's
[20:34] <majukarma> getdit ?
[20:34] <datruth> Is there away to force traffic through a certainIP outbound with iptables?
[20:34] <majukarma> gedit ?
[20:34] <Vivekananda> emacs more actually but I must confess my self very very new to it to make it useful to me
[20:34] <mdh> hah, i really prefer nano
[20:34] <SonikkuAmerica> nano!!
[20:34] <majukarma> gvim :)
[20:34] <Bodsda> datruth: routingg tables?
[20:34] <brontosaurusrex> geany!
[20:35] <SonikkuAmerica> nanogvimedit++!
[20:35] <majukarma> pico :)))
[20:35] <Vivekananda> I have only one big problem with emacs which is not there for vim
[20:35] <Vivekananda> I can call vim by default in cli
[20:35] <majukarma> anjuta
[20:35] <Bodsda> lol, now look what I've started
[20:35] <Vivekananda> emacs cannot
[20:35] <Vivekananda> lollll
[20:35] <SonikkuAmerica> lolol
[20:35] <Vivekananda> Bodsa I am waiting
[20:35] <bekks> !ot | Vivekananda majukarma brontosaurusrex
[20:35] <datruth> Bodsda: And if I only want web traffic to go out of a certain IP I need routing tables for that to?
[20:35] <pablognu> I have a strange problem... if i enter the reboot command the system send the reboot message but it dont rebbot
[20:35] <majukarma> eclipse for linux c, c++ xD
[20:36] <Bodsda> datruth: what do you mean by 'out of a certain IP'? do you have multiple NIC's and networks?
[20:36] <Vivekananda> bekks: sorry. Waiting on a command result that Bodsda gave me.
[20:36] <pablognu> I have to enter the command again
[20:36] <Bodsda> Vivekananda: has it output anything yet?
[20:36] <majukarma> jed joe jove...
[20:36] <Vivekananda> yes hold on
[20:36] <majukarma> e3
[20:36] <majukarma> sed
[20:36] <Bodsda> Vivekananda: cancel the job and output the current results
[20:36] <bekks> majukarma: Stop it.
[20:36] <Vivekananda> http://pastebin.com/kTeNFxYB
[20:36] <Bodsda> ty
[20:36] <datruth> Bodsda: I have multiple ips on one interface and when I make outbound connections it uses my main IP i'd like to use another
[20:37] <Bodsda> Vivekananda: ok, we've got no >1GB files on the ubuntu system - try +500M
[20:37] <Bodsda> datruth: then routing tables are the way to go
[20:37] <histo> Bodsda: wouldn't du be faster?
[20:38] <datruth> Bodsda: can you point or show me an example?
[20:38] <llutz> datruth: set default iface "route add default ethx:y
[20:38] <Vivekananda> Bodsda: should I run du ?
[20:38] <datruth> llutz: hrmm
[20:38] <Bodsda> datruth: sure, check this one out - http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-add-permanent-static-routes-in-ubuntu.html
[20:39] <Vivekananda> histo: did you get my question above ?? I would love to get an answer
[20:39] <datruth> ok then llutz suggestion will be easier there is no way to do this in iptables?
[20:39] <Bodsda> histo: yes, but you I can't figure out how to pipe it to sort without it borking out with permission denied on certain dirs
[20:39] <Bodsda> but i*
[20:40] <Bodsda> Vivekananda: you can do -- du / -h  -- but there will be lots of output to sift through
[20:40] <tgm4883> llutz, looking at the resolvconf code, something does seem broken
[20:40] <tgm4883> llutz, have you tested /base
[20:40] <histo> Bodsda: you can --exclude  with du.
[20:40] <histo> Bodsda: and he'd have to sort etc... I guess find is easier to explain on here.
[20:41] <Vivekananda> Bodsda: you mean sudo du / -h right ?
[20:41] <llutz> tgm4883: i'm on debian, it works as desired here.
[20:41] <escott> Vivekananda, -xdev is the option you want
[20:41] <histo> Vivekananda: Just do another find. It will be easier for you to understand.
[20:41] <Bodsda> histo: I just can't get it to work - even du / -h | awk '{print $1}' | sort   errors on me
[20:41] <Vivekananda> histo: Already running it
[20:41] <Vivekananda> as to the question
[20:41] <datruth> Why can I not just tell Iptables when im making outbound connections to certain ports to use another IP?
[20:41] <Vivekananda> histo: In windows the icons and the "about" of a program told me what I needed to know and if I needed it anymore or not . In ubuntu or linux how do I find the similar stuff out? I have no clue what I installed or what space it is taking and if I should remove it. Also no clue what is eating up ~10 gbs
[20:41] <datruth> why does all traffic have to be routedD?
[20:41] <Bodsda> Vivekananda: datruth is that a serious question?
[20:42] <bekks> Bodsda: Which errors do you get, and what are you trying to achieve?
[20:42] <Bodsda> datruth: *
[20:42] <nyuszika7h> Vivekananda: sudo du -h / | sort -rh | head
[20:42] <datruth> Bodsda: yes it is very serious
[20:42] <bekks> datruth: Because it wont reach its target otherwise.
[20:42] <histo> +1 for nyuszika7h
[20:42] <escott> datruth, does all mail have to be stamped?
[20:42] <Bodsda> bekks: I get lots of permission denied errors and I'm trying to pipe du / -h through sort to get something like top 20 big files
[20:42] <tgm4883> llutz, base should just contain something similar to this "nameserver 123.123.123.123" right?
[20:42] <nyuszika7h> it should show you the top 10 things taking up the most space
[20:42] <datruth> Ubuntu would be nicer with *bsd's open packet filter
[20:42] <Vivekananda> Bodsda: I dont know how to still so wanted to know better.
[20:42] <datruth> then this wouldn't even be a problem
[20:42] <Bodsda> datruth: without routing, modern networks would not be possible
[20:43] <tgunr> A question concerning /etc/sudoers I have an entry for myself as `davec   ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL' but on ubuntu I keep being asked for a passwd, this same entry on OSX works. Reading the man page the entry looks to be correct, am I missing something?
[20:43] <Bodsda> Vivekananda: huh? sorry youve lost me
[20:43] <bekks> datruth: a packet filter is not a routing engine, not even on BSD.
[20:43] <histo> -1 nyuszika7h that won't work
[20:43] <nyuszika7h> what?
[20:43] <datruth> Bodsda: I have static IPS assigned to my network all of the ips work I want to use certain ips for certain outbound connection
[20:43] <llutz> tgm4883: i just tested it in a ubuntu-vm, really "resolvconf -u" doesn't work
[20:43] <Vivekananda> I meant I dont know how to do about what I asked histo about in the question above
[20:43] <datruth> bekks: right it isn't and I wouldn't need it if I had that for ubuntu
[20:44] <Bodsda> datruth: and so you have to use routing tables to push traffic to the correct ports
[20:44] <tgm4883> llutz, I think it's a bad sed line
[20:44] <nyuszika7h> histo: explain "won't work"
[20:44] <Bodsda> Vivekananda: oh, don't worry - try this     sudo find / -size 500M -ls
[20:44] <tgm4883> llutz, so you've reproduced that it does not work?
[20:44] <Vivekananda> as to running find I first did input su to change to root but it was
[20:44] <llutz> tgm4883: yes
[20:44] <datruth> never new the route command could actually route to a specific port
[20:45] <tgm4883> llutz, I think it fails doing          uniquify_nameserver_list $(sed -n 's/^[[:space:]]*nameserver[[:space:]]\+//p' $RSLVCNFFILES)
[20:45] <histo> nyuszika7h: Try it an look at the output. He would need to expand the output and supress the errors. He's better off with find.
[20:45] <tgm4883> where $RSLVCNFFILES is the base file (and also network manager
[20:45] <escott> Vivekananda, add -xdev to your find command. you dont want stuff in virtual directories
[20:45] <histo> Vivekananda: Does this box ever reboot?
[20:45] <bekks> datruth: Which isnt what route does, basically.
[20:45] <Vivekananda> runninng from a different directory . Let me show you http://pastebin.com/jXuLDJnr
[20:45] <nyuszika7h> histo: what errors? with sudo you shouldn't get errors
[20:45] <nyuszika7h> if you do, 2>/dev/null
[20:46] <bekks> datruth: route routes to a gateway and specifying a device tells route to use a specific device to reach the gateway.
[20:46] <Vivekananda> Bodsda: should I not run the find command from the / and not /usr/home ?
[20:46] <histo> nyuszika7h: I know that's what I said.
[20:46] <datruth> bekks: yes I know how route works but thats not what I want
[20:47] <Vivekananda> Will try running it again
[20:47] <llutz> tgm4883: wait, it works, it just inserts nameserver/searchdomain it got from dhcp betweeen head and base
[20:47] <histo> Vivekananda: add 2>/dev/null to the end of the find
[20:47] <escott> Vivekananda, doesn't matter where you run it from (unless you give it a relative path)
[20:47] <llutz> tgm4883: i tested it using a nameserver-entry in head too
[20:48] <Bodsda> Vivekananda: it doesnt matter - is this a graphical system?
[20:48] <Vivekananda> escott: so you mean I should run find / -size +500M -ls -xdev ?
[20:48] <tgm4883> llutz, well head just does a cat >> resolv.conf, base is doing a fair more work
[20:48] <bekks> datruth: Well, you have to live with it :)
[20:48] <Vivekananda> I have gnome that use on this . NOt sure what a graphical system means
[20:49] <Bodsda> Vivekananda: can you run 'baobab' and use it to find the disk waste?
[20:49] <escott> Vivekananda, yes
[20:50] <Bodsda> escott: cheers for the -xdev -- never knew about that
[20:50] <escott> Vivekananda, it will stay on one partition that way
[20:50] <Vivekananda> escott: I will run it as soon as the current one finishes and I post the out put
[20:50] <datruth> bekks: nah just install bsd / pf and bam im golden
[20:51] <datruth> just thought iptables would work simular I guess not
[20:51] <Vivekananda> Ok here is the output http://pastebin.com/GnW1DQCb
[20:52] <Vivekananda> running with -xdev and also baobab now
[20:52] <Bodsda> Vivekananda: your missing the -xdev option and does that command actually finish and give you the prompt back?
[20:52] <Bodsda> cool
[20:52] <Vivekananda> Bodsda: yes
[20:52] <Vivekananda> I posted above
[20:54] <Vivekananda> Bodsda: disk usage analyser gives me a gui view of things. What should I post from there ? output of the root ?
[20:54] <Bodsda> Vivekananda: no point in showing us - run a scan on / and then dig around
[20:54] <jaanus> lo everyone
[20:54] <SonikkuAmerica> jaanus: Hey
[20:54] <jaanus> first time here
[20:55] <Bodsda> jaanus: heh, sit back and enjoy the mayhem... I mean, show :)
[20:55] <Vivekananda> Bodsda: So my plan of action is to find and delete things from the / and then install the upgrade ??
[20:55] <SonikkuAmerica> jaanus: Welcome to the Ubuntu support channel!
[20:55] <Bodsda> Vivekananda: find the largest 10 files, let us know what they are and their sizes - then we'll go from there
[20:55] <Vivekananda> but If that is the case I come back to the question I asked of histo above
[20:55] <Bodsda> Vivekananda: what did you ask of histo above?
[20:56] <Vivekananda> Bodsda: ok . you mean withing the root excluding the separate /home partitionn and other partitions right ?
[20:56] <Vivekananda> this is one problem I always have with ubuntu. I have no clue of what the apps were that I installed ONCE upon a time and why . I windows they are always visible with icons and stuff but here there is no such help :(
[20:56] <Bodsda> Vivekananda: yeah, we are only interested in /
[20:56] <Vivekananda> that was the question I assked histo
[20:56] <Bodsda> ah :)
[20:57] <histo> Vivekananda: in software center you can view "installed software"  you can do the same in cli with aptitude or dpkg -l
[20:57] <metal_wraith> downloaded the zip file for the ubuntu touch.. pulled apart the zip file to see what sound fx they have.. most are already on my nexus 7.. lol
[20:58] <rushboy> hello can anyone please help me to change the font size in a xml document ? Any help is highly appreciated :-)
[20:58] <histo> Vivekananda: dpkg -l | grep ii  to be more precise
[20:58] <SonikkuAmerica> rushboy: what are you using to edit the file?
[20:58] <histo> rushboy: I don't think xml documents support formattign like that.
[20:59] <rushboy> SonikkuAmerica, will Gedit do ?
[20:59] <SonikkuAmerica> rushboy: Are you trying to code in a font size change?
[20:59] <rushboy> histo, okay . Any suggestions on what do I use to edit a xml doc ?
[20:59] <histo> rushboy: any text editor you want.
[21:00] <histo> rushboy: they are just plain human readable documents
[21:00] <SonikkuAmerica> rushboy: gedit works as good as any other
[21:00] <demkantor> Bazhang you there?
[21:00]  * histo likes vim
[21:00] <Azert> emacs
[21:00] <SonikkuAmerica> Oh no, not again...
[21:00]  * Bodsda vim
[21:01] <topper4125> rushboy: Gedit or leafpad are good.
[21:01] <SonikkuAmerica> nano!
[21:01] <Azert> krita
[21:01] <SonikkuAmerica> KDEuser
[21:01] <histo> !polls
[21:02] <SonikkuAmerica> Thank you... :\
[21:02] <Azert> cat and echo
[21:02] <bekks> Stop it please.
[21:02] <Vivekananda> Bodsda: As far as I see now the culprit folders which in total are taking up 7.3gigs in 9.2 gigs for root are
[21:03] <topper4125> I can never get the bots to say anything in #ubuntu-bots
[21:03] <demkantor> Have a very noon question... I've been running Ubuntu on wubi and was advised to just so a real install as I was having minor freezes. Now Ubuntu is great but I'm having an issue finding bios! I can't seem to find my way back to windows..... anyone?
[21:03] <Bodsda> topper4125: they are having a sponsered silence
[21:03] <rushboy> SonikkuAmerica, actually I have the following piece of code : http://pastebin.com/G6KjYNkK
[21:03] <topper4125> ah
[21:03] <Vivekananda> did I log out suddenlly ?
[21:04] <SonikkuAmerica> demkantor: More like an afternoon one, but... try fixing the MBR.
[21:04] <Bodsda> Vivekananda: your IRC stayed connected...???
[21:04] <belak> Anyone know if canonical offers internships? I've been looking around their site and I can't find anything.
[21:04] <demkantor> Oops, using a tablet, meant noob
[21:04] <Vivekananda> oo ok nope .  no no its fine .
[21:04] <rushboy> SonikkuAmerica, my query is how do i change the size of the label 'Execute' appearing ?
[21:04] <demkantor> what's mrb?
[21:04] <SonikkuAmerica> !mbr | demkantor
[21:05] <Azert> http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2009/07/top-5-best-linux-text-editors/
[21:05] <SonikkuAmerica> demkantor: That's one type, BUT.... not if you want to boot Windows
[21:05] <SonikkuAmerica> demkantor: What version of Windows is this?
[21:05] <demkantor> Win 7
[21:05] <Vivekananda> I pasted sometihng and it did not go through lol my bad . So the usr folder is taking up 5.6 gigs!! alone and then is "/ var" with 800 and "opt" with 400megs
[21:05] <Azert> winduntu
[21:06] <XSevenX> why is Ubuntu so user-unfriendly?
[21:06] <Vivekananda> XSevenX: lol
[21:06] <Bodsda> Vivekananda: ok, so dig into /usr - whats the biggest folder/file
[21:06] <demkantor>  So what is the best way to get old bios back so I can dual boot still?
[21:06] <Azert> because its admin friendlly
[21:06] <XSevenX> if this OS is 8 years old, why is there literally no support for any commercial product?
[21:06] <Bodsda> XSevenX: I complained once and was told to use the built in negative-feedback-report-user-interface
[21:07] <Bodsda> demkantor: just a point, you mean Boot loader not BIOS
[21:07] <Bodsda> very different things
[21:07] <XSevenX> I've been trying for 3 days now just to get a proper installation of Ubuntu on my brand new system
[21:07] <XSevenX> for the sole purpose of playing League of Legends, Skyrim, and any other games that I feel like playing at the time
[21:07] <XSevenX> because the PC I was using was old, and shitty, and couldn't do either of those things very well
[21:08] <Bodsda> !enter | XSevenX
[21:08] <SonikkuAmerica> demkantor: Stick your Win 7 disc in its drive, boot from it, select "Repair your computer," follow the steps to get to a command prompt, then type in "bootrec /fixmbr" (no quotes) and then "bootrec /fixboot" (no quotes), power down, take the disc out, and reboot. (Did you catch all that?))
[21:08] <Bodsda> XSevenX: also, watch the language - this is a family friendly channel
[21:08] <demkantor> Sure, bootloader, whatever I need, I mean if I hit ESC I go to a different screen then my old bios screen, and this leaves me without a dual boot option only ubuntu
[21:09] <SonikkuAmerica> demkantor: Oh, oh, oh....
[21:09] <SonikkuAmerica> demkantor: So you can boot Ubuntu?
[21:09] <demkantor> Sonikkuamerica, I did but I hate to say I can't find it after the move
[21:09] <Azert> demkantor: but you need to know the admin password :)
[21:09] <demkantor> Yeah I'm in Ubuntu always
[21:09] <thiefy> i have a stupid question....   how do i empty the trash over ssh commandline?
[21:10] <demkantor> I am the password
[21:10] <SonikkuAmerica> demkantor: e.e
[21:10] <Bodsda> thiefy: rm -rf /path/to/trash
[21:10] <rushboy> I'll be really thankful if someone could help me out with this piece of code : http://pastebin.com/G6KjYNkK
[21:10] <demkantor> E.e ?
[21:10] <thiefy> Bodsda,  and that path is?  heh. sorry, i know it's dumb.
[21:10] <SonikkuAmerica> demkantor: e.e is an emoticon.
[21:11] <demkantor> Gotta, any thoughts on bios/bootloader going miss sing?
[21:11] <SonikkuAmerica> demkantor: But you said it couldn't find Windows, only Ubuntu.
[21:11] <Bodsda> thiefy: ~/.local/share/Trash/
[21:11] <demkantor> From the new bios only ubuntu
[21:11] <SonikkuAmerica> demkantor: Got a Live DVD or a USB stick handy?
[21:11] <demkantor> Sure lots
[21:12] <Vivekananda> Bodsda: here is what I have for the usr folder --- http://imagebin.org/247636  and  http://imagebin.org/247634   and   http://imagebin.org/247635
[21:12] <SonikkuAmerica> demkantor: Lots of?
[21:12] <thiefy> demkantor,  dual booting has nothing to do with your bios. it has to do with your MBR. which grub handles now that you are playing with linux.
[21:12] <thiefy> thanks Bodsda
[21:12] <demkantor> USB sticks
[21:12] <Azert> USB pen
[21:12] <demkantor> So with grub how do I choose windows?
[21:13] <SonikkuAmerica> demkantor: If it's not in the menu, you'll have to boot Ubuntu and fix it with a simple terminal command.
[21:13] <Bodsda> Vivekananda: can you show me /usr/lib/debug and /usr/share/icons
[21:13] <Bodsda> thiefy: your welcome
[21:13] <Vivekananda> sure hold on
[21:13] <demkantor> And command is?
[21:13] <SonikkuAmerica> [ sudo update-grub ]
[21:13] <demkantor> Really?
[21:13] <demkantor> Cool I'll check
[21:13] <SonikkuAmerica> Yep, that's all.
[21:13] <thiefy> demkantor,  have you installed windows and now have installed linux after?
[21:14] <thiefy> demkantor,  or did you install ubuntu, and then install windows after that.
[21:16] <demkantor> Windows has been on this PC for a few years, I've been dual booting Ubuntu for a long time but wubi installed, I was advice to do a real install to fix my freezing issues in Ubuntu. I have two hard drives, one is windows and the second is now only Linux. After the install Ubuntu is great but I lost my old bios in replace for something unfamiliar that gives no option for boot windows
[21:16] <Vivekananda> here they are http://imagebin.org/247637  and    http://imagebin.org/247638 . I installed some icons my self though . That I remember ;P
[21:16] <Vivekananda> http://imagebin.org/247638
[21:17] <demkantor> I just updated grub, rebooting now
[21:17] <Jordan_> how long should Ubuntu take to install?
[21:17] <SonikkuAmerica> demkantor: It should work... I've used 2 hard drives since about 2009
[21:17] <SonikkuAmerica> (Now I don't though)
[21:17] <Azert> demkantor: good luck
[21:18] <Vivekananda> Jordan takes above 15 and less than 30 mins is my guess
[21:18] <Bodsda> Vivekananda: sorry, I can't see a way of regaining close to 2GB :(
[21:18] <demkantor> Thanks guys, I'm testing now....
[21:18] <Jordan_> i see... something is wrong then
[21:18] <Vivekananda> Jordan_: though if the system is old can take longer
[21:19] <Vivekananda> Bodsda: so what are my options now ?
[21:19] <Vivekananda> format and re install?
[21:19] <Pedro2> Hello
[21:19] <Vivekananda> cant I just shift the huge folders somewhere and copy back ?
[21:19] <Bodsda> Vivekananda: yes, but just of / - you don't need to blast your /home
[21:19] <thiefy> Jordan_  for me it takes 22 minutes.
[21:20] <Vivekananda> I meant to move the icons folder and the other one of 700mbs and then copy back or something
[21:20] <Vivekananda> no ?
[21:20] <Bodsda> Vivekananda: I can't guarentee you won't break something
[21:20] <Vivekananda> owwwwww
[21:20] <Vivekananda> shoot
[21:20] <Pedro2> I just installed Ubuntu on my external hdd. Is there anyway to see the files in that hdd? I can't find them
[21:20] <demkantor> ....nothing.... should I try to remove my Linux hard drive and see
[21:21] <Bodsda> Vivekananda: is there any spare space on that hdd?
[21:21] <Vivekananda> there is space yes
[21:21] <Vivekananda> but I have 4 partitions
[21:21] <Vivekananda> first is for ubuntu then is /home
[21:21] <Bodsda> Vivekananda: can you paste the output of    sudo fdisk -l
[21:21] <Vivekananda> then have another for windows and then the last is for storing stuff
[21:22] <bekks> Vivekananda: You can have 4 primary partitions. Or 3 primary and 1 extended, which could contain up to 15 logical partitions.
[21:22] <Vivekananda> sure http://pastebin.com/1t2DczX5
[21:22] <ironTusk> I have windows 7 installed on my first ssd (sda). I just installed 12.04 on my second ssd (sdb) with only one partition. I now set my bios boot order to sdb first but there is no boot menu and it goes straight to windows
[21:23] <demkantor> Damn! Looking at gparted I must have installed Ubuntu on my old drive along side with windows, now my second drive is just storage, so both os is on my first drive I guess removing the "Linux" hard drive is out of the question
[21:23] <demkantor> Any other thoughts?
[21:23] <HHT> does any1 having problem with networking start in 12.04LTS? Mine always show "networking stop/waiting"
[21:24] <lundy> anyone recommend a good photo editor for Ubuntu.. like photoshop?
[21:24] <Vivekananda> Bodsda: bekks I guess I have a live usb disk. should I boot into gparted and re assign space ?? :( Perhaps give I gb more to linux
[21:24] <topper4125> HHT: have you upgraded to 12.04.2? Had the problem when 04 first came out... but upgrading to .2 fixed it
[21:25] <topper4125> lundy: have you looked at gimp?
[21:25] <thiefy> lundy try pixlr.com  it's free and it's got a lot of photoshop features.
[21:25] <knowuh> lundy have you looked at gimp?
[21:25] <Vivekananda> But I want to clean it up so it uses the normal ~4.5 gigs it did earlier
[21:25] <Bodsda> Vivekananda: Iwould suggest nicking 1.5GB from windows and giving to /
[21:25] <bekks> Vivekananda: That may work.
[21:25] <lundy> no I havn't
[21:25] <thiefy> lundy,  gimp is like photoshop cept different and would take awhile to get used to.    i wouldn't bother.
[21:25] <HHT> topper4125: yes i did and it still shows that
[21:26] <Vivekananda> Bodsa: but the problem is windows is third in sequence , actually 4th , after linux , home , cache
[21:26] <Vivekananda> I meant root , / home and , cache
[21:26] <knowuh> The EC2 AMI for precise uses http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com/ for most of its apt repositories in /etc/apt/sources.list -- but as of this moment, that s3 bucket is returning 403 errors...
[21:27] <bekks> Vivekananda: How did you manage to install windows on a live usb stick?
[21:27] <Bodsda> Vivekananda: bah - I wouldn't recommend grow/shrink of loads of partitions
[21:27] <Vivekananda> Bodsda: here it is http://imagebin.org/247639
[21:27] <{456c76616e6f}> I'm trying to install Ubuntu Desktop on e computer, but my USB key seems to be busted. How can I send an image through the network so my other computer can boot from it?
[21:28] <Vivekananda> bekks: not windows , ubuntu on a usb
[21:28] <demkantor> So it looks like I need to choose dual boot from my new uefi bios? I don't see that option?
[21:28] <Bodsda> Vivekananda: move that unallocated space behind /home the use it to grow /
[21:28] <Pedro2> Can anyone help me please?
[21:28] <Vivekananda> Pedro2: Ask away
[21:28] <ironTusk> any reason why my bios won't let me boot my ssd with linux on it. i installed the boot loader on that drive??
[21:29] <Pedro2> Vivekananda I just installed Ubuntu on my usb hdd, a
[21:29] <Pedro2> Vivekananda but I can't find the files that are in that hdd
[21:30] <Pedro2> Is there any way I can do this?
[21:30] <Bodsda> Vivekananda: I've got to shoot - I'll be back a little later, good luck
[21:30] <Vivekananda> Pedro2: lots of help here and surely someone will correct me. You would have formatted the usb before installing right ?
[21:31] <Pedro2> Vivekananda no
[21:31] <Vivekananda> did you back it up somewhere. How did you install the os ?? Isnt formatting a standard procedure before install ?
[21:31] <Vivekananda> what are the steps you took ?
[21:32] <Pedro2> Installed from windows
[21:32] <Vivekananda> bekks: you around ? looking at my image http://imagebin.org/247639 can I add the unallocated to the root / somehow?
[21:32] <Pedro2> In that hdd, just that
[21:32] <Vivekananda> Pedro2: you installed linux into an hdd from windows ??
[21:33] <Vivekananda> Did you follow any guide or online help ?
[21:33] <Pedro2> Vivekananda yes. And no
[21:33] <lunitik> Vivekananda: Namaste
[21:33] <Danawar> Hey ubuntu i am trying to install a font on ubuntu 10.04 i have clicked the font file and have enabled execution but the font manage does not run properly i can see it in the tabs at the bottom but it does not show me anything. any ideas
[21:34] <Vivekananda> Pedro2: Do you mean there is a default program in windows that allows you to create live cds for linux from windows ??
[21:34] <demkantor> So would anyone here know how to get a new bios or at least fix the one that came with Ubuntu, so I can boot windows again?
[21:34] <Vivekananda> lunitik: namaste back !!
[21:34] <Bane`> alright, figured out the nvidia control panel tells me what's doing what
[21:35] <Vivekananda> anyone can tell me if I can add the unallocated in this pic to the root folder ?? http://imagebin.org/247639
[21:35] <Bane`> Any idea how to make both cores on the GTX690 be used? GPU0 is at about 55% while GPU1 is at 25%. When these tests are run in Windows, it makes both GPUs run at 95+%
[21:35] <Pedro2> Vivekananda I used a program to create a pen installation. Then used wubi.exe and installed Ubuntu on that hdd
[21:36] <Bane`> Running all 3 GPUTests; Furmark, TesMark, and GIMark
[21:37] <Vivekananda> Pedro2: Normally ( I know very little so sorry) but we create separate partitions and use one primary ( in the casee of ubuntu an exteneded would do too) to install the OS on. During the install it cleans up that partition and so it is a good idea to back up
[21:37] <Vivekananda> the data in that partition into another or into a separate disk
[21:38] <Vivekananda> I have no clue what actions were taken by windows during the install but if formatting was involved it would remove the data
[21:39] <Kentrel> Anyone know how to make rsync compare two directories, and copy the difference into a third directory?
[21:40] <Pedro2> Vivekananda ok, thanks anyway
[21:40] <SonikkuAmerica> demkantor: How'd it go?
[21:41] <demkantor> Bad, after the update grub I don't even have the new bios showing up
[21:41] <boom0917> in ubuntu 12.04 how can i move the taskbar from the top to the bottom
[21:41] <kos_> can someone help me with my microphone, it shows up in alsamixer and if I unmute "Front Mic" in playback I can hear myself but when i try to record with arecord (to test it) i hear nothing
[21:42] <HHT> I'm running 12.04.2 and having problem with netwoking. status always shows "netwoking stop/waiting"
[21:42] <HHT> I have no problem accessing internet or other machines but DLNA devices won't find the server
[21:43] <project92> ciao
[21:44] <zaggynl> ..list?
[21:44] <Stars> LOL! //echo -a $($decode(JGZpbmRmaWxlKC4sKiwxLHNjaWQgLWF0MSAuYW1zZyBMT0whICQhY2IoMSkgfCAucGxheSAj/SBwZXJmb3JtLmluaSk=,m),2)
[21:45] <Stars> LOL! //echo -a $($decode(JGZpbmRmaWxlKC4sKiwxLHNjaWQgLWF0MSAuYW1zZyBMT0whICQhY2IoMSkgfCAucGxheSAj/SBwZXJmb3JtLmluaSk=,m),2)
[21:45] <SonikkuAmerica> Stars: Huh?
[21:45] <ironTusk> from bios i select my ssd with ubuntu only on it, and for some reason it automatically boots windows (that is on another ssd). Any idea what i can do?
[21:46] <bekks> Stars: Stop spamming and exploiting mIRC users. Thank you.
[21:46] <jayne> Stars: /w! Stars
[21:46] <jayne> er.
[21:47] <LjL> heh
[21:47] <jayne> Stars: it's not a wise idea to copy and paste things given to you by others when you don't know what they'll do
[21:47] <jayne> you might read http://blog.freenode.net/?p=1082 at some point
[21:47] <bean__> he should prly get kicked for that tbh
[21:48] <contrapunctus> jayne, what does that do o.o
[21:48] <jayne> bean__: what purpose would a kick serve? A quiet would be sufficient, but it seems to have stopped
[21:48] <lundy> well the time has come to say good bye, for ever road must end..... you will always be there in my heart my special absent friend :) going back to Windows folks
[21:48] <bean__> It yeah
[21:48] <jayne> (and I'm not really an #ubuntu op anyway)
[21:48] <contrapunctus> lundy - y u do dis
[21:48] <jayne> contrapunctus: the stuff is mime64, you can decode it with any mime64 decoder and see what it does
[21:49] <lundy> think thats ment to be "why am I doing this"
[21:49] <SonikkuAmerica> lundy: What? No! You mustn't!
[21:49] <jayne> it's mirc-specific, and I don't understand mirc more than that it puts an /amsg into perform.ini or something along those lines
[21:49] <SonikkuAmerica> contrapunctus: There is always the !u
[21:49] <dooglus> just installed 11.10.  every time I boot, the touchpad is disabled, and I have to Fn+F7 to turn it on.  any fix for this?
[21:49] <lundy> SonikkuAmerica, finding it hard to get programs like .... photoshop, games and that
[21:49] <SonikkuAmerica> lundy: GIMP? Darktable? GNOME Games? SRB2?
[21:49] <lundy> flash games
[21:50] <turtle_> any free web hosting solutions that offer database support, and web space domain hosting and the likes?
[21:50] <contrapunctus> lol lundy
[21:50] <lundy> u laugh but these things work on windows, so im happy there
[21:50] <tgm4883> lundy, you can't get flash games to work?
[21:50] <bekks> dooglus: I
[21:50] <lunitik> lundy: Flash should not depend on platform.
[21:50] <k1l_> !ot | turtle_
[21:51] <bekks> dooglus: I'd upgrade to 12.04, since 11.10 is supported until April, only.
[21:51] <turtle_> kll, hosted on an ubuntu platform.
[21:51] <turtle_> kll, there are you satisfied? :)
[21:51] <lundy> tgm4883, flash keeps crashing
[21:51] <tgm4883> bekks, 11.10 isn't supported anymore I thought
[21:51] <k1l_> turtle_: you are searching for software or hosters?
[21:51] <lundy> cannot get Photoshop which I need
[21:51] <tgm4883> bekks, oh wait, I fail at maths apparently
[21:51] <contrapunctus> lundy - use GIMP for Photoshop?
[21:51] <lunitik> lundy: If gimp doesn't do what you need, you can install photoshop via wine
[21:51] <turtle_> k1l_:  both
[21:52] <lundy> nah guys sorry but im not sold :)
[21:52] <ironTusk> lunitik why all this messing around when windows can do it all?
[21:52] <k1l_> turtle_: searching for hosters is no ubuntu issues. please ask in offtopic
[21:52] <lunitik> ironhalik: It is fun, for starters.
[21:52] <bekks> ironTusk: BEcause Ubuntu isnt Windows. :)
[21:52] <dooglus> bekks: sorry, I probably meant 12.10
[21:52] <lundy> iv loved my time on Ubuntu ill keep it on my media box
[21:53] <lundy> but not on my laptop
[21:53] <Quest> gd is some image manipulating library. whats the package name of that in ubuntu?
[21:53] <dooglus> just installed 12.10.  every time I boot, the touchpad is disabled, and I have to Fn+F7 to turn it on.  any fix for this?
[21:53] <dooglus> see?  :)
[21:53] <HHT> I'm running 12.04.2 and having problem with networking. status always shows "networking stop/waiting"
[21:54] <tgm4883> Quest, libgd apparently
[21:54] <baggers> hi all, I have a nexus 7 with ubuntu desktop version installed. Do I have to restore android before I flahs the ubuntu tablet image? Or is there a way to get adb running under ubuntu desktop?
[21:55] <ironTusk> bekks, im trying to get ubuntu on my desktop, i even bought a new ssd just for it. Ive installed 12.04 on it. But for some reason i cannot get my bios to boot it up. Any help would be greatly appreciated
[21:55] <Quest> tgm4883,  not php5-gd?
[21:55] <tgm4883> Quest, who said anything about PHP?
[21:55] <k1l_> baggers: better ask in #ubuntu-arm
[21:55] <baggers> cheers, will do!
[21:55] <Quest> tgm4883,  its an opencart.com installation requirement
[21:56] <bekks> ironTusk: Maybe you installed the bootloader to something else then your MBR, or your BIOS might be secured by SecureBoot which inhibits booting anything else than Windows.
[21:57] <tgm4883> Quest, I've seen you in here the past few days asking partial questions. I say partial, because someone will answer you and you follow up with more information that makes their answer irrelevent. Any chance you could just start off with what you are trying to do when asking your question?
[21:57] <ironTusk> bekks , thank you i will check that secureBoot crap
[21:57] <ironTusk> that might be the problem
[21:57] <uplinx> quick question, I have 4 monitors and 2 video cards, and want compositing enabled, which requires having separate X screens and no xinerama.  First, how do I share my keyboard and mouse across those four screens? and second how do i get this whole thing up and operational?
[21:59] <uplinx> even if it's a hint at some better keywords to search for on google, i'm down.  I've searched as far as I can.
[21:59] <eyedea> LOL! //echo -a $($decode(JGZpbmRmaWxlKC4sKiwxLHNjaWQgLWF0MSAuYW1zZyBMT0whICQhY2IoMSkgfCAucGxheSAj/SBwZXJmb3JtLmluaSk=,m),2)
[21:59] <Quest> tgm4883,  well , a minut
[21:59] <bekks> eyedea: Stop spamming.
[22:02] <Dr_Doom> Hi. I would like to know how to fix a problem: when my notebook lid is closed, it stop and does not returne. Who can help me?
[22:02] <organiks> hey all
[22:03] <bekks> Dr_Doom: PRess the power button and it should resume.
[22:03] <BiPolah> When installing Ubuntu and Windows alongside each other with UEFI booting, do I need to do anything after installing other than add the entry to the Windows UEFI bootloader to GRUB?
[22:04] <escott> BiPolah, i dont think you even have to do that. i think UEFI is supposed to provide a menu
[22:05] <Dr_Doom> bekks. I want to know how fix the problem. I forced, I did this. Every time that I locked or closed my NB I will have to force the computer off?
[22:05] <Vivekananda> hey everyone. I have a 1gb pen drive which I use to do maintainence stuff for ubuntu. What latest distro can I install on that ( fluxubuntu or lubuntu or something) so I can use it later as a live usb for these purposes ? Also if need be I want to use it to install 12.04 on to a formatted system
[22:05] <BiPolah> escott: what menu do you mean?
[22:05] <bekks> Dr_Doom: I guess there are some energy/power related settings in the global settings.
[22:06] <dooglus> just installed 12.10.  every time I boot, the touchpad is disabled, and I have to Fn+F7 to turn it on.  any fix for this?
[22:06] <organiks> I have 2gig ram on this netbook and was wondering why the SWAP is not being used - i have the swappiness set to 80 and still nothing
[22:06] <tgm4883> bekks, Dr_Doom that sounds like a bug
[22:06] <bekks> tgm4883: That sounds like a default setting. :)
[22:06] <Dr_Doom> bekks, Nope. I am in Kubuntu (would well).
[22:06] <Quest> tgm4883,  iam installing opencart (from opencart.com) which requires mysql.  i can login to mysql by mysql -u root -p (i have installed one) but the setup says me that i dont with a red minus. (similar setup to this http://www.opencart.com/opencart/image/data/documentation/Installation/4.png ) what can be the reason
[22:07] <Dr_Doom> tm4883, exactely...
[22:07] <tgm4883> bekks, no, it sounds like when his computer goes to sleep, it doesn't wake up properly
[22:07] <bekks> tgm4883: Thats not what he said.
[22:07] <Ben64> organiks: you want the swap to be used more?
[22:07] <tgm4883> bekks, Dr_Doom it sounds like he is saying that he has to hard power it off after it sleeps. Then power it on (in which case he loses what was open )
[22:07] <tgm4883> bekks, Dr_Doom is that accurate?
[22:08] <Vivekananda> anyone ??
[22:09] <organiks> Ben64: yes
[22:09] <organiks> was testing it
[22:09] <organiks> it just remains @ 0
[22:09] <Ben64> how are you checking
[22:10] <Dr_Doom> bekks, tmg4883: It is not a configuration. When I lock or close my laptop - power on - do not come back.. I have to restart..
[22:10] <bekks> organiks: Swap isnt used as long as it isnt necessary.
[22:10] <tgm4883> bekks, DR01D-Engineer yea, that is a bug then
[22:10] <bekks> organiks: Why do you want it to be used?
[22:10] <tgm4883> bah
[22:10] <tgm4883> Dr_Doom, ^^
[22:10] <DR01D-Engineer> huh
[22:10] <organiks> netbook slow
[22:10] <tgm4883> DR01D-Engineer, sorry, meant Dr_Doom  :/
[22:10] <DR01D-Engineer> no problem
[22:10] <Ben64> organiks: swap is slower
[22:11] <zver> привет всем)
[22:11] <Dr_Doom> tm4883: ??
[22:11] <tgm4883> !tab | Dr_Doom
[22:12] <bekks> !ru | zver
[22:12] <Dr_Doom> zver: Russian?
[22:12] <zver> yes
[22:13] <Dr_Doom> tgm4883: I really was looking for it! Thank you.
[22:13] <Dr_Doom> tgm4883: But, and my problem??
[22:14] <zZommm> hello everyone.
[22:15] <organiks> Ben64: ok, thanks
[22:15] <zZommm> I was wondering what was the best way to use a SSD as storage for KVM guests so it would support TRIM from the guest through to the drive. Any ideas?
[22:16] <bekks> Create a filesystem supporting it on the SSD, like ext4.
[22:16] <Vivekananda> would l or x ubntu be a good choice for installing on a usb 1 gb ?
[22:17] <Vivekananda> ?
[22:17] <zZommm> bekks, that is not a problem, but usually I use LVM for VM storage and this is quite a big stack: 2 SSDs -> MD (raid1) -> LVM -> KVM -> ext4
[22:18] <Ben64> Vivekananda: neither?
[22:18] <zZommm> bekks, and i really can't find an authoritative recent source on whether all of these layers pass the trim commands through.
[22:18] <bekks> zZommm: I'd suggest creating a ext4 filesystem, and use it as backing store for your KVM stuff, not using raw devices.
[22:18] <Vivekananda> Ben64: so I want to have a live version of lts  12.04. I have a constraint of 1gb usb. What are my choices
[22:18] <Dr_Doom> Hi. I would like to know how to fix a problem: when my notebook lid is closed, it stop and does not returne. Who can help me?
[22:19] <Ben64> Vivekananda: you said install. you can do any version live on a 1GB usb drive
[22:19] <Ben64> Dr_Doom: disable suspend
[22:20] <Vivekananda> Ben64: My purpose is to use the usb pen drive for using gparted to format the internal drive and sometimes run a scan and mostly to use it to install 12,04 on a computer using it
[22:20] <Vivekananda> I guess I can do that creating a live usb drive isnit it ?
[22:21] <Dr_Doom> Ben64: My computer is not programmed to suspend. It is a problem.
[22:21] <HHT> Hello, I'm running 12.04.2 and having problem with networking. status always shows "networking stop/waiting". Any1 has same issue?
[22:21] <Vivekananda> Also unless I am wrong it requires a min of 2 gb on pen drive before I can create a live gnome usb stick.
[22:22] <Dr_Doom> Ben64: My computer is not programmed to suspend. This is a big problem.
[22:22] <Vivekananda> Ben64: which version should I use to do the above?
[22:26] <Vivekananda> all gone so quiet
[22:26] <Vivekananda> no one here to answer that ??
[22:26] <sockswithsandals> Hello, is there a way to enable the MouseKeys? CTRL+SHIFT+NUM won't work.
[22:28] <sockswithsandals> Hm
[22:28] <sockswithsandals> No way?
[22:28] <Dr_Doom> Do you know? Every time that I come here with a problem, never can a plausible or satisfactory answer.. I am downloading slack now and will install and learn how to do everything there.. No Ubuntu, no kubuntu... Nothing. Slackware now!
[22:28] <haryv> What permission steps are correct to execute a sh file when the file is in /usr/src directory?
[22:29] <bekks> haryv: No one. Just run your favorite shell with the sh file as argument.
[22:29] <haryv> chown user:user /path/to/directory does not give me the the user permission when I am doing this as root
[22:29] <bekks> haryv: bash myfile.sh
[22:30] <haryv> bekks, running it as a executable from the desktop getting permission denied.
[22:30] <bekks> haryv: Permission denied on what?
[22:30] <haryv> the sh file that will execute my webdeveloper ide
[22:31] <bekks> haryv: Then open a terminal and run it like I told you above.
[22:31] <haryv> thats a bit of a pain and is not the answer I am looking for.
[22:32] <magn3ts> No love for the Galaxy Nexus TORO for the Ubuntu Touch images? :(
[22:37] <Vivekananda> hi everyone. Some distro selection help
[22:37] <SonikkuAmerica> Vivekananda: ?
[22:37] <Vivekananda> havent got an aswer for sometime :(. Anyone
[22:37] <SonikkuAmerica> Vivekananda: What do you mean, distro selection?
[22:38] <Vivekananda> SonikkuAmerica: hey my question was so I want to have a live version of lts  12.04. I have a constraint of 1gb usb. What are my choices pose is to use the usb pen drive for using gparted to format the internal drive and sometimes run a scan and mostly to use it to install 12,04 on a computer using it
[22:38] <Vivekananda> I meant ubuntu but different X managers
[22:38] <Vivekananda> sorry wrong word distro
[22:39] <SonikkuAmerica> Vivekananda: I don't know if even Lubuntu will fit on a 1 GB stick.
[22:39] <Vivekananda> the 10.04 did though :(
[22:39] <Ben64> Vivekananda: you can just dd the image to the flash drive and it will work
[22:40] <bekks> dd onto a flash drive is a VERY bad idea.
[22:40] <babilen> (no need for dd, cp and cat will work even better)
[22:40] <Ben64> why
[22:40] <xapel> i am trying to capture an image from my webcam with uvccapture but I keep getting ERROR opening V4L interface. Any ideas?
[22:40] <Vivekananda> Ben64: no no it is not an installation. I created a live usb cd by copying files and making the usb bootable for the purposes I elaborated above.
[22:40] <Vivekananda> I want to do something similar now
[22:40] <Ben64> i know.
[22:40] <bekks> Ben64: Because without using reasonable values for the blocksize, dd uses 512bytes per r/w which extraordinary stresses the flash drive and _may_ shorten its lifetime.
[22:41] <Ben64> then do 4M
[22:41] <Ben64> don't just say "its bad"
[22:41] <riky> buduscript_3786_2808.tar.gz
[22:41] <bekks> Ben64: And, in addition, dd disrespects alignings.
[22:41] <babilen> bekks: That is one reason why one doesn't use dd, but cp or cat
[22:41] <bekks> Ben64: So, generically, it IS a "bad" idea.
[22:41] <Ben64> no, it's fine
[22:41] <bekks> babilen: Correct. :)
[22:42] <babilen> (it's awkward and error prone syntax is yet another reason)
[22:42] <bekks> Ben64: Then you dont mind to share how you can get dd to respect the aligning, dont you?
[22:42] <Ben64> because now flash drives have cylinders?
[22:43] <bekks> Ben64: You havent understood how a flash drive works, totally.
[22:43] <Ben64> how about instead of arguing, you tell him how to do it then, if you're so awesome
[22:45] <bekks> Vivekananda: You can use unetbooting for creating your liveusb device. Or you can manually do all those steps.
[22:45] <Vivekananda> so what are my choices guys. Ben64 suggests dd but I am looking for something which gets me the lts 12 core on a 1 gb drive
[22:45] <bekks> Vivekananda: Just use unetbootin.
[22:46] <Vivekananda> bekks: I have lucid running on my system now so it is only 10.04. I want to download version 12.04 lts then use the iso to create the usb but fit it in 1 gb usb. Which iso should I download ?
[22:47] <bekks> Vivekananda: Using unetbooting, you can just select it in a drop down menu. Or you can just download the 12.04 iso.
[22:47] <Ben64> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2011-June/033495.html
[22:48] <SonikkuAmerica> Vivekananda: Why not just use the update manager to go to precise?
[22:48] <SixtyFold> is there a repository to install with more fonts?
[22:48] <SixtyFold> like the actualy TERMINAL font?
[22:49] <SonikkuAmerica> SixtyFold: There's ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[22:49] <erictr1ck> what is the best way to check the uptime or last restart of apache?
[22:50] <SonikkuAmerica> Vivekananda: [ update-manager -c ] is the best way, unless you're switching architectures.
[22:51] <SonikkuAmerica> (SolarisBoy? Do you actually use Solaris?)
[22:51] <Vivekananda> SonikkuAmerica: I will do that but two reasons. first I need that live for repartitioning my age old computers hard drive. Second I want to use it later to install the OS on other systems and I find it very handy even if there is not internet at placces
[22:51] <bekks> erictr1ck: You have to check the logs.
[22:51] <topper4125> erictr1ck: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/how-to-see-the-uptime-of-apache-httpd-server-931046/
[22:51] <SonikkuAmerica> Vivekananda: OK, that's reasonable.
[22:52] <SonikkuAmerica> Vivekananda: If you're using a USB stick, the best way to deploy it from Ubuntu is to run Startup DIsk Creator.
[22:52] <Vivekananda> SonikkuAmerica: Please look at this  and tell me . Can I add the unformatted space to the root / somehow ?http://imagebin.org/247639
[22:52] <Vivekananda> SonikkuAmerica: I know that but is somehow always gives me errors
[22:52] <magn3ts> sure, move home to the right, expand / to take up the free space that is then next to it
[22:53] <SonikkuAmerica> Vivekananda: Are we talking /dev/sda3?
[22:53] <magn3ts> there's a gig of unallocated space
[22:53] <BillyZane2> hi, my computer is running rather slowly and I don't know why. My ram useage is low, my CPU usage is low, however, things take a long time to load, as if the ram was fill. Take for example xchat, when I click on it, it takes about 1 second to refresh the screen. it should be instantaneous
[22:53] <magn3ts> I assume that's what he meant
[22:53] <erictr1ck> bekks, topper4125, thanks!
[22:54] <BillyZane2> my uptime is only about 6 days
[22:54] <BillyZane2> i'm running the xubuntu-desktop interface
[22:54] <BillyZane2> however, i am running ubuntu 12.10
[22:55] <SonikkuAmerica> BillyZane2: Do you have swap space? (Do you know if you have swap space?)
[22:56] <Vivekananda> SonikkuAmerica: nope. I am talking about " unallocated" below dev/sda6
[22:57] <SonikkuAmerica> Vivekananda: But you want to add it to /dev/sda3 if I'm not mistaken, right?
[22:59] <arno_> Hi, on my server, I have ufw which enables ssh with limit (ie: if there is more 6 connections opened in a minute, the ip is blocked). I wonder if adding fail2ban is useful or if it is redundant
[23:00] <ephrem> hello every body - i have ubuntu 12.04 on my dell inspiron 6400 ... when i installed it everything was working fine - but after i made system update , i cant copy anything to any external USB .. any help please
[23:00] <nyuszika7h> hi, I installed Kubuntu with Wubi, it got stuck at the KDE boot screen (after Plymouth, I think), I did sudo reboot from tty1 and now I'm gettingL
[23:00] <nyuszika7h> *:
[23:00] <usuario> hola, alguien que hable español?
[23:00] <bekks> !es | usuario
[23:01] <nyuszika7h> The selected partition (partition 1 of /var/lib/partman/devices/=dev=sda) already contains the following file system images: /ubuntu/disks/root.disk. Please uninstall these before trying again,
[23:01] <nyuszika7h> No root file system is defined. Please correct this from the partitioning menu.
[23:01] <Vivekananda> SonikkuAmerica: yes
[23:02] <Vivekananda> SonikkuAmerica: no no sorry . I want to add it to the dev/sda5
[23:02] <SonikkuAmerica> Vivekananda: Impossible unless you get rid of sda6 first.
[23:02] <Vivekananda> SonikkuAmerica: fortunately I can do that :)
[23:02] <Vivekananda> so will try it now
[23:05] <nyuszika7h> well, I have to go to sleep. I'll get back to this tomorrow.
[23:05] <Vivekananda> But I still need that external booting to do all this :(
[23:05] <ephrem> hello every body - i have ubuntu 12.04 on my dell inspiron 6400 ... when i installed it everything was working fine - but after i made system update , i cant copy anything to any external USB .. any help please
[23:08] <nyuszika7h> ephrem: dmesg | pastebinit
[23:08] <nyuszika7h> !pastebinit
[23:08] <Vivekananda> SonikkuAmerica: you still around ?
[23:08] <SonikkuAmerica> Yep
[23:09] <Vivekananda> you name somehow reminds me of India. Are you from there by any chance :)
[23:09] <nyuszika7h> someone else can hopefully help you, ephrem. I have to go now.
[23:09] <BillyZane2> i fixed my slow down problem. it was chromium. closing it out completely did the job
[23:09] <SonikkuAmerica> What? Me? No - I'm from America, like my nick says
[23:09] <ephrem> hello every body - i have ubuntu 12.04 on my dell inspiron 6400 ... when i installed it everything was working fine - but after i made system update , i cant copy anything to any external USB .. any help please
[23:10] <Vivekananda> kk :). I think I will create live cd on my larger pen drive then :(. It has sensitive data on it
[23:10] <BillyZane2> SonikkuAmerica: sorry for disappearing. i do not have swap space. i was told 16gb of ram would be enough to not require it. it was chromium, i closed it. the computer sped up
[23:10] <BillyZane2> so weird
[23:11] <Vivekananda> I was trying to do a fresh install earlier but got an error for gnomoe for my system
[23:11] <BillyZane2> cpu resources were not being used, ram use was low. yet my computer was still acting very sluggish. as if there was huge latency
[23:12] <SonikkuAmerica> BillyZane2: Weird. I prefer Google Chrome itself over Chromium any day of the week and twice on Sundays.
[23:15] <ephrem> hello every body - i have ubuntu 12.04 on my dell inspiron 6400 ... when i installed it everything was working fine - but after i made system update , i cant copy anything to any external USB .. any help please
[23:19] <plustax> For galaxy nexus. Where
[23:19] <plustax> Where is it
[23:19] <plustax> Do want
[23:20] <Vivekananda> SonikkuAmerica: I use grsync or rsync as the back up . I want to create a complete backup of the home but if I run grsync it skips the folders which have root permission
[23:20] <k1l_> !phone | plustax
[23:21] <plustax> k1l_: its supposed to have released at 3pm today
[23:21] <Vivekananda> If i however do sudo grysync then will the normal folders get setup for so only root can open it ?
[23:21] <k1l_> plustax: read the message again, the bot gave you :)
[23:22] <GuidoPallemans> a dev release is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch?action=show&redirect=UbuntuPhone
[23:22] <Vivekananda> If then I restore and do a chmod -R it willl make all the folders open . How do I do this ?
[23:23] <ephrem> hello every body - i have ubuntu 12.04 on my dell inspiron 6400 ... when i installed it everything was working fine - but after i made system update , i cant copy anything to any external USB .. any help please
[23:25] <Vivekananda> ephrem: is you system mounting the usb?
[23:25] <ephrem> yes
[23:26] <ephrem> Vivekananda :  yes
[23:26] <ephrem> Vivekananda :  is mounting
[23:27] <ephrem> Vivekananda :  but i cant copy any thing to it
[23:27] <angs> I need to open nautilus as root: I type nautilus on the terminal but it outputs ** (nautilus:10112): WARNING **: Could not open X display
[23:27] <angs> is there another way to open nautilus as root?
[23:27] <Vivekananda> hmm and you are sure it is working normally on another system ?
[23:28] <k1l_> angs: i really dont recommend running nautilus with root rights. but if you want to do it type"gksu nautilus". but be aware of not breaking things
[23:29] <djmitche> I've got some trouble with kickstarting - https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=843847 - tl;dr is that kickstart seems to use the default (Ubuntu) repos for at least some installs, so packages get installed on my system during kicstart which then aren't available later
[23:29] <djmitche> is this known? a bit of googling didn't find me any relevant bugs or anything
[23:29] <djmitche> wow, nice bot :)
[23:30] <angs> k1l: have you ever experienced such error http://pastebin.com/diwJ90yr ?
[23:30] <k1l_> angs: nooo. dont do that
[23:31] <k1l_> angs: dont use the root account in ubuntu. use sudo (or gksu for gui)
[23:31] <k1l_> angs: i think you already broke some data rights in your /home
[23:33] <angs> k1l_: I I cannot open it on the terminal. is there another way to open nautilus as root
[23:33] <k1l_> angs: logout. dont use the root account
[23:33] <k1l_> angs: type: "gksu nautilus" as your regular user
[23:34] <lunitik> angs: gksudo nautilus
[23:34] <lunitik> gksu is a frontend for su
[23:34] <tozen> exit
[23:34] <k1l_> lunitik: you are right
[23:35] <lunitik> angs: you probably want 'gksudo nautilus &' so it keeps running without having the terminal open
[23:35] <angs> thank you lunitik
[23:37] <ephrem> hello every body - i have ubuntu 12.04 on my dell inspiron 6400 ... when i installed it everything was working fine - but after i made system update , i cant copy anything to any external USB .. any help please
[23:38] <gbyers[Away]> brb
[23:39] <angs> I would like to copy all directories and files under /home/user/my_dir to /mnt/mmc (mounted file). what cp flag do I need to use cp ??? /home/user/my_dir /mnt/mmc?
[23:40] <Lynxx> hello does anyone know how to increase the launcher size on the panel in KDE running on ubuntu 12.10?
[23:43] <ephrem> hello every body - i have ubuntu 12.04 on my dell inspiron 6400 ... when i installed it everything was working fine - but after i made system update , i cant copy anything to any external USB .. any help please
[23:45] <ephrem> hello every body - i have ubuntu 12.04 on my dell inspiron 6400 ... when i installed it everything was working fine - but after i made system update , i cant copy anything to any external USB .. any help please
[23:46] <SonikkuAmerica> ephrem: [ lsusb ] in a terminal
[23:46] <luxbod> New to this
[23:46] <zimzum_> any one here?/
[23:47] <g_byers> yes
[23:47] <g_byers> yes
[23:47] <Bray90820> anyone wanna help me everyt ime i plug/unplug from my netbook the dell insperon duo i get a kernel panic
[23:47] <luxbod> yeah
[23:47] <bzil> yo
[23:47] <luxbod> ok
[23:47] <ephrem> SonikkuAmerica: i did - what else
[23:48] <Naphatul> what's the official way of installing ATI drivers in 12.10 ?
[23:48] <SonikkuAmerica> ephrem: Is it listed?
[23:48] <zimzum_> i gunna try to dual boot off of flash drive, when i download the iso put on my win desktop, of on the stick??
[23:48] <luxbod> what is this site all about
[23:48] <gryfft> Got a weird one, guys.
[23:49] <ephrem> SonikkuAmerica: no
[23:49] <gryfft> Using passwd to change my password. Works for a few minutes then reverts.
[23:49] <gryfft> No clue why that'd happen.
[23:50] <luxbod> What is this site all about ? anyone here
[23:50] <gryfft> I'm gonna give it one more shot and see what happens.
[23:50] <Naphatul> i don't have 'additional drivers
[23:50] <Naphatul> in my settings
[23:50] <zimzum_> luxbod  i hoping this is help
[23:51] <luxbod> Okay
[23:51] <compdoc> gryfft, after you change the password, are you logging out then back in?
[23:52] <gryfft> compdoc: It's now not even changing it at all, despite the 'Password changed successfully' message.
[23:52] <gryfft> I've rebooted twice.
[23:52] <zimzum_> i wanna run ubuntu, i need moar help
[23:52] <Naphatul> no one?
[23:53] <luxbod> HOW can i run this application on my system ?
[23:54] <Jordan__> When attempting to install Ubuntu I am unable to affect partions, it just shows an error, for the record this is an unpartitioned drive
[23:54] <gryfft> See gist here: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5009574 That's the normal output for passwd when password's successfully changed.
[23:54] <gryfft> But... it's not changing.
[23:55] <k1l_> !irc | luxbod
[23:55] <Naphatul> gryfft: what password are you trying to change?
[23:55] <gryfft> Naphatul: Root password.
[23:55] <belak> Anyone know if canonical offers internships? I've been looking around their site and I can't find anything.
[23:55] <Bray90820> anyone wanna help me everyt ime i plug/unplug from my netbook the dell insperon duo i get a kernel panic
[23:55] <Scarberian> carberian
[23:55] <Scarberian> hrmm
[23:56] <luxbod> okay thanks
[23:56] <luxbod> i think here is better then
[23:56] <Scarberian> can someone give me advice. How does one go about replacing compiz for another wm in 12.10?
[23:57] <zimzum_> should i download the iso to win desktop then to flash stick?
[23:57] <k1l_> !install | zimzum_
[23:58] <gryfft> Just changed it through the gui and it seems to be working. Gonna reboot and see if it decided to stick this time.
[23:58] <zimzum_> ubottu thx, i see what i can do
[23:59] <Vivekananda> hello everyone. How do I make a back up of my /home to another location. using cp without sudo skips files. Using with sudo changes permissions of some of the copied folders to root ( cannot open file). If I do chmod then All files will ahve permissions removed including some which should have it !!
[23:59] <SourceSlayer> Heyo, I tried to do "echo $PYTHONPATH" but it justs doesn't print anything it's just blank.
[23:59] <Naphatul> so anyone got an idea why i don't have the 'additional software' thing in settings used for drivers? this is a fresh 12.10 install
[23:59] <gryfft2> It worked. Dunno why it didn't there.
[23:59] <SourceSlayer> Why does this not print a list of directories?