[21:29] <Jnzer> hi im new  with ubuntu  studio  is agood  change  im was a working  with slklackware 14
[21:33] <zequence> Jnzer: Welcome to the club
[21:33] <sSs> yeah slackware isnt really ment for studio production
[21:34] <zequence> Jnzer: 13.04 might actually be worth checking out already. Less buggy jack, and integration with PA is easier
[21:35] <zequence> Switching to Thunar, and a few new preinstalled apps
[21:36] <zequence> PA just became version 3.0, and might suffer from bugs, and there are probably other desktop related problems (still Alpha), but on the whole, I feel it's better than 12.04 and 12.10 right now
[22:32] <sirriffsalot> Is there by any chance a free ebook or suchlike on studio engineering and or mixing? :)
[22:42] <zequence> sirriffsalot: Haven't heard of one, but there's a lot of tutorials here and there, articles and such, on all kinds of things
[22:43] <sirriffsalot> zequence: yeeah.. I guess, I just hate reading popsicles here and there.. I'd love to have it all from start to finish in one package. More thought behind it :)
[22:44] <zequence> sirriffsalot: Most of it is learning by doing, and listening
[22:45] <zequence> But, I guess some good theory is nice to have too
[22:45] <zequence> I went to the library myself at one point
[22:45] <sirriffsalot> zequence: Yeah, trying to combine both. My ears are pretty decent, I hardly know any music theory compared to teachers in it, hehe
[22:45] <sirriffsalot> zequence: get much out of it?
[22:45] <zequence> sirriffsalot: Only the basics
[22:45] <sirriffsalot> Hehe
[22:46] <zequence> Knowing how a compressor works is probably good
[22:47] <zequence> And having some idea of frequency range. What we hear, what is interesting to hear, and what frequencies are interesting on different instruments
[22:48] <sirriffsalot> zequence: knowing how a compressor work.. in user-mode or the whole shabang? From code to output?
[22:49] <zequence> Was anyone aware of ISO 27002 being the standard for "principle of least privilege".This is the shit I have to learn for the A+ exam
[22:50] <zequence> sirriffsalot: Just what all the parameters do
[22:50] <sirriffsalot> zequence: whew.. scared me for a moment :)
[22:51] <sirriffsalot> zequence: I've tried getting interested in programming and code.. But it just doesn't stick. The best I can get out of it is making scripts for my own convenience hehe
[22:52] <zequence> When a customer tells you your co-worker has done something wrong, what do you do? Talk to him about it, or tell the boss?
[22:53] <zequence> Tell the boss of course! (if you want to pass the A+ exam)
[22:55] <sSs> well the official answer is to tell the boss.   but real world VS. by the book has always been a tightrope
[22:55] <zequence> I just find it hilarious that they put stuff like that into a computer certificate test
[22:56] <zequence> There's stuff about US laws too, which seems ridiculous to learn, if you aren't living in US
[22:56] <zequence> Plus some of the info is plain wrong
[22:56] <zequence> Some of the things they say are even crazy
[22:57] <sSs> its the A+.. you cant take it too seriously
[22:58] <sSs> i could have passed the A+ in the 6th grade b4 i even owned a computer
[22:58] <zequence> First thing to do when you're having problems on a Windows machine - reboot! If the problem doesn't appear again after reboot, the problem is solved (yeah, right)
[23:00] <zequence> sSs: You can't answer correctly on some of the questions, unless you read the book, really carefully. Why? Cause the answer they want is not always the right one
[23:01] <sSs> real world VS. by the book
[23:03] <zequence> I actually think it might be a benefit having a lower IQ level, in order to pass this test more easily
[23:05] <sSs> and sometimes the book is wrong. i remember my Net+ book stating that the 568-a order was Blue Orange Green Brown
[23:05] <zequence> That's what I'm reading next
[23:06] <zequence> Probably Security+ too. Definately Linux+ and whatever Linux certs I get to do
[23:06] <sSs> definately Sec+. Net+ and Sec+ are actually important. A+ is just a nice to have
[23:07] <zequence> I'm studying as a part of an individually paced unemployment education. The certs are free, and during this one year I can take as many as I'm able
[23:07] <sSs> oh wow...
[23:07] <sSs> you lucky bastige
[23:07] <zequence> Sweden, baby
[23:07] <zequence> :P
[23:07] <sSs> by the time i was ready to take all my certs, i was out of money
[23:08] <zequence> If I had to pay for them, I'd not go through with it
[23:08] <zequence> There is building up more interest for Linux hackers recently, so certs might not always be needed
[23:08] <zequence> At least that's the impression I get
[23:08] <sSs> well CISSP is definitely worth the money.   and you can get the training from your public library (or the net)
[23:09] <zequence> Is that Cisco?
[23:09] <sSs> knowing linux is the difference between minumum wage and high paying career
[23:09] <zequence> I'm probably going to do some Cisco too
[23:09] <sSs> Certified Information Systems Security Professional (TIA i think)
[23:09] <sSs> Cisco is too expensive if your paying for it. and not a lifetime ccert
[23:10] <zequence> There are loads of Cisco certs. I can do a few, but only the basic ones I guess
[23:11] <zequence> I'm going to try get one down each month at least
[23:12] <zequence> I was a little bit lucky to get this opportunity though. The competition was pretty fierce, and they didn't only pick people by competence
[23:12] <zequence> I sort of talked myself into it
[23:13] <zequence> CISSP seems to require quite a bit of past work experience, so if that's right, that would not be possible for me
[23:14] <zequence> The common ones I see in ads are the MS ones. Server certs, Exchange, Actice Directory..
[23:14] <sSs> ? no? i got CISSP when i was a teenager with only a GED
[23:14] <sSs> oh
[23:14] <zequence> https://www.isc2.org/cissp-how-to-certify.aspx
[23:15] <sSs> well right now all the money is in programming and security. everything else is few and far between and requires exp
[23:16] <sSs> oh well i guess i got my CISSP cuz i attended a diploma mill
[23:17] <zequence> https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/2/21/228
[23:18] <sSs> such a professional..
[23:27] <zequence> Some box to get their agressions out
[23:27] <zequence> Not Linus