[00:01] // FIXME: This code seems to be nonfunctional - it needs to be fixed somewhere (is it Qt BUG?) [00:01] QDBusConnection::systemBus().connect(service, path, interface, name, [00:01] q, SLOT(dbusFilter(const QDBusMessage &))); [00:05] Oo [00:05] * apachelogger sighs [00:06] * apachelogger cries [00:08] morning guys :) Just a quick check - is it ok for me to add untrusted ppa's into kubuntu while I'm beta testing? The last thing I want to do is break stuff or wind up losing my install. [00:11] ppas are always a risk [00:14] yeah, that's what I thought. I'm looking to try hexchat as an irc client, since its url to browser capability isn't broken, like xchat's - but we don't have hexchat prepackaged. [00:14] hexchat.org has it as a ppa though [00:16] BarkingFish: use konversatin [00:16] konversation [00:16] it has the best ever written url parser [00:16] does konversation support sasl authentication? [00:17] until april, I have to connect to IRC using Tor/Sasl, so whatever client I use needs to be able to handle sasl or i'm stuck [00:17] konversation can do all and everything [00:18] http://userbase.kde.org/Konversation/Configuring_SASL_authentication [00:18] they even have nice documentation [00:18] right, that's definitely worth looking at then. [00:18] If it beats the hell out of xchat or quassel, I am sold :) === rdieter_ is now known as rdieter [01:44] ::qt-bugs:: [1131166] package libqt4-xmlpatterns 4:4.8.3+dfsg-0ubuntu3.1 failed to install/upgrade: cannot copy ... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1131166 (by kmkale) === clay_doh is now known as claydoh [06:53] any idea why notifications or panel have no shadows ? === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [09:11] ScottK: apachelogger: just commented on bug 1092910 [09:12] bug 1092910 in kde4libs (Ubuntu) "Merge notifications of two incoming messages from the same person" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1092910 [09:12] ScottK: the MI plasma does not have any maintainer right now, unfortunately [10:14] ::workspace-bugs:: [1131647] Python version mismatches causes "Could not create script engine" errors @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1131647 (by Cole Mickens) [10:15] yay webkit compiled on arm [10:15] c++ headers are missing though [10:15] huzzah [10:16] /build/buildd/calligra-2.6.1/stage/part/ui/KPrHtmlExportDialog.h:26:29: fatal error: QtWebKit/QWebPage: No such file or directory [10:16] yofel_: still? [10:16] http://paste.kde.org/678212 [10:17] that's 2.3-0ubuntu2 === yofel_ is now known as yofel [10:18] yofel: you mean it's missing QWebPage vs qwebpage.h? [10:19] yes [10:20] it's missing those capitalized c++-style headers [10:21] yeah, let me try again [11:43] Hi [13:17] JontheEchidna: when muon-updater needs to install/remove packages, is it intentional that the packages to be installed are listed above those that are to be removed? [13:18] maybe I'm just making our users look stupid, but maybe switching that would make people more aware of what's happening === yofel_ is now known as yofel === dpm is now known as dpm-lunch [14:07] Hiya all [14:07] Hello [14:11] Riddell, perhaps you should tell them it's Kubuntu, not QUbuntu: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/qtubuntu/trunk/view/head:/src/platforms/ubuntulegacy/window.cc [14:23] Bah Riddell can you fix powerpc for qtwebkit-source? It's killing the calligra build (i386) for one day already and I don't want it to fail until 2.6.2 gets released:P [14:27] * smartboyhw is really wondering why is packaging an application like calligra so difficult:P === dpm-lunch is now known as dpm [14:38] smartboyhw: the calligra failure has nothing to do with powerpc [14:38] yofel, than what? [14:38] the -dev package is still missing files [14:38] yofel, missing what files? [14:38] * smartboyhw opens the buildlog [14:38] /build/buildd/calligra-2.6.1/stage/part/ui/KPrHtmlExportDialog.h:26:29: fatal error: QtWebKit/QWebPage: No such file or directory [14:38] yofel, anyway to fix? [14:39] yeah, fix qtwebkit-source. Riddell was looking at it though I think [14:39] * smartboyhw waits for eternity [14:39] Riddell, shadeslayer apachelogger yofel what devices do you want to port to Ubuntu Touch? [14:40] what's ubuntu touch? (the only touch device I have is a nexus 7) [14:40] yofel, well Ubuntu for phones + tablets [14:40] yofel, and it works for Nexus 7 now:P [14:41] ah, well, we do want to have a plasma-active image at least for the nexus7 [14:41] unity on the nexus7 didn't really work out in quantal here ^^ [14:41] yofel, of course:P [14:41] yofel, try Ubuntu Touch yo see if it works [15:30] smartboyhw: about? [15:30] Riddell, about? [15:30] !? [15:31] smartboyhw: "are you about?" [15:31] Riddell, yep [15:31] smartboyhw: I have a qtwebkit build with the headers fixed [15:31] http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/libqtwebkit-dev_2.3-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb [15:31] * smartboyhw finds that simplified version extremely weird [15:31] Riddell, great [15:31] http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/libqtwebkit4_2.3-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb [15:31] smartboyhw: but rekonq still doesn't compile [15:32] Riddell, rekonq!? [15:32] smartboyhw: first thing I thought of that used qtwebkit [15:32] Riddell, oh [15:34] smartboyhw: want to see if I'm missing anything? [15:34] I'm installing those packages [15:34] Riddell, OK [15:34] then dpkg --install the old libqtwebkit-dev [15:34] rekonq cmake works fine [15:35] and replacing each part of libqtwebkit-dev with the new files from libqtwebkit-dev_2.3 [15:35] but I can't track it down [15:35] smartboyhw: want to try something similar to see if you have any luck? [15:35] Riddell, problem: I am about to sleep soon [15:36] ach it's the weekend :) [15:37] Riddell, not that problem [15:37] It's 11:37 PM here:P [15:45] smartboyhw: hoorah, I got it [15:45] Riddell, good [15:45] Riddell, how about powerpc? [15:45] We don't care about it [15:46] But it's good to have it build too [15:46] don't know, don't really care [15:46] Riddell, LOL [15:47] there's ment to be a powerpc team for people who want to care about powerpc [15:47] Riddell, I saw in one of your blueprints you want powerpc builds [15:47] LOL [15:47] you can try trcking them down [15:47] not I, I've been for dropping them since my mac died [15:47] others take the view of "if they work and get tested we might as well release them" [15:48] * smartboyhw doesn't care about powerpc either [15:56] * Riddell just had a random phone call from someone who sounds like a hillbilly american wanting to know if he should use kubuntu [15:56] I said yes [15:57] Riddell, :) [15:57] he said companies in the US were so greedy [15:58] maybe he was a socialist hillbilly [16:00] Riddell, LOL [16:20] Riddell, did he speak with colloquialisms or decent English with a hillbilly accent? ...sometimes the accent fools ppl . [16:24] BluesKaj: just the accent I think [16:25] Riddell, right ..he .knows enough to look for advice in the right place :) [16:27] well, to look for my phone number to call me, not quite the right place :) [16:37] Riddell, inconvenient for you but not for him , he got the right answer :) [16:39] grrrrrrrr [16:39] Riddell: can you re-upload qtwebkit please? i386 failed without log and launchpad crashes when I try to retry it [16:41] yofel: ug [16:41] yofel: yeah go ahead [16:42] yofel: oh wait [16:42] I see my problem [16:42] another stupid mistake [16:43] ah, *now* the log is there [16:43] I'll upload a fix, sigh === neversfelde_ is now known as neversfelde [17:09] BBl === jessie_ is now known as jessie [17:27] hello everyone [17:34] http://paste.kde.org/678524/ This is the debian/rules for libdlna. From viewing this can you determine the source format and debhelper version ? [17:34] no, source format is 1.0 unless debian/source/format says otherwise, debhelper compat level is set in debian/compat [17:36] yofel: If i want to convert the source format from 1.0 to 3.0 what should i do? [17:36] 3.0 quilt I guess? [17:36] mkdir debian/source/; echo "3.0 (quilt)" > debian/source/format [17:37] yofel: done that [17:37] yofel: i removed the cdbs from builddeps and also put debhelper >=7 in control [17:38] then make sure the compat level is actually 7, remove all cdbs references from rules and make sure your package still works [17:38] dh7 packaging actually needs debhelper >= 7.0.51 or so, not sure about the exact version [17:38] lintian will tell you ^^ [17:39] Riddell: new Ubiquity review for you! [17:40] yofel: i removed everything from the rules files except the default first line and put this "%: dh $@" [17:40] yofel: i am getting errors [17:40] yofel: during the build process, it reports about an unknown option for the auto configure [17:40] I would assume so, you'll have to pretty much rewrite rules [17:41] yofel: its something like x86_64_linux_gnu [17:41] yofel: its something like "--build=x86_64_linux_gnu" [17:42] dunno [17:42] (at least not without context) [17:42] yofel: i will give you the link [17:43] yofel: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libdlna/+bug/1129977 [17:43] Ubuntu bug 1129977 in libdlna (Ubuntu) "[needs-packaging] libdlna" [Undecided,Confirmed] [17:43] yofel: read the last comment [17:43] ok, but you could still use cdbs with source format 3 [17:44] yofel: in that case i have to remove only this line ? "include /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/simple-patchsys.mk" [17:45] yofel: from here http://paste.kde.org/678524/ [17:45] that and add a series file so quilt uses the patches [17:45] yofel: thats is done already [17:45] should work then [17:45] yofel: so the control file should contain the cdbs deps right? [17:46] right [17:46] yofel: also what about the debhelper version requirement? [17:46] hm..... [17:46] 7 will work, that much I can say [17:47] what's compat set to now? [17:47] yofel: the previous default was debhelper (>= 5) [17:47] yofel: 5 [17:47] read the debhelper manpage, that shows the changes in the versions [17:47] yofel: ok [17:50] brb [17:54] Oo [18:40] yofel: libdlna successfully build. http://paste.kde.org/678590/ . I have to go thought the log one more to confirm it. this is the new rules file http://paste.kde.org/678596/ [18:42] yofel: so is the new debian/rules ok? [18:43] looking [18:43] you should be able to drop DEB_CONFIGURE_PREFIXS too [18:43] "./configure" should be "dh_auto_configure --" [18:45] yofel: but the source contains a .configure [18:45] you still don't call that directly [18:45] dh_auto_configure will do that [18:46] all you need here is pass some options to it [18:46] yofel: i need dh_auto_configure not to use the --build option how can i do that [18:47] murthy: what's the problem with it? [18:47] murthy: if it's actually breaking something you can call .configure [18:47] yofel: its reports --build="x86-64_linux_gnu" as an unknown option [18:48] ah, probably non-standard configure script [18:48] yofel: ya [18:48] then call configure the normal way, just make sure that dh_auto_clean really removes all build flies [18:48] *files [18:49] hm [18:49] yofel: how can i do that? [18:50] calling make distclean in dh_clean it seems? [18:50] yofel: i mean how can i check if auto_clean removes all the build files? [18:50] if I understand "DEB_MAKE_CLEAN_TARGET := distclean" right [18:50] yofel: ya [18:50] yofel: should i override dh_clean? [18:51] can someone familiar with cdbs answer that? ^ [18:51] apachelogger: ^ [18:52] murthy: but a different question: *why* are you using a dh7 rules file? [18:52] yofel: to upgrade when ever possible [18:53] it's not like cdbs will vanish anytime soon [18:53] yofel: it was once a mandate which was dropped, if i am not wrong [18:53] sure, but what *breaks* by sticking to cdbs? [18:53] yofel: nothing, but i like to take this forward [18:54] yofel: why not try to update? [18:54] * yofel leaves this to someone else then [18:54] yofel: anything wrong> [18:54] murthy: I wouldn't do it since I'm not familiar with cdbs to be confident that I won't introduce bugs in the process [18:54] yofel: ok [18:55] but someone of the folks that have been around longer than me should be able to help you [18:56] yofel: i have the legend for help the apachelogger [18:56] apachelogger: help? [18:57] yofel: are you laughing? [18:58] no, why? [18:59] yofel: I doubt that apachelogger will , after i got him piss off the other day [18:59] yofel: I doubt that apachelogger will *help , after i got him piss off the other day [19:00] this is apachelogger we're talking about, he'll forgive you eventually [19:00] yofel: that would be very nice [19:01] my quassel is all orange [19:01] why is my quassel all orange? [19:01] what's with all the orange [19:02] apachelogger: hi [19:02] helos [19:02] apachelogger: how are you today? [19:03] apachelogger: yofel has some doubts :) [19:03] I bought me some guinness today \o/ [19:03] <- happy lion [19:03] apachelogger: nice [19:04] apachelogger: I am like a ginne myself, except i try programming [19:04] so what's with the highlights? [19:05] yofel: ^ [19:06] * apachelogger informs yofel that http://paste.kde.org/678596/ is not using cdbs :P [19:06] apachelogger: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libdlna/+bug/1129977 [19:06] Ubuntu bug 1129977 in libdlna (Ubuntu) "[needs-packaging] libdlna" [Undecided,Confirmed] [19:06] apachelogger: I am asked to convert to 3.0 [19:07] jolly pointless [19:07] apachelogger: and also i like to update it to 7+ [19:07] yeah well [19:07] dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc && dpkg-buildpackage -S [19:08] if it fails or creates a patch that was not intended your clean target is not complete [19:08] apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/678596/ is his port of http://paste.kde.org/678524/ [19:08] if not then the rules look fine [19:08] yofel: dh7 probably calls distclean anyway [19:08] oh, right, one can do that... [19:08] e.g. autotools stuff often requires distclean [19:09] yeah [19:10] apachelogger: when using the default dh_auto_configure , i get an error message about an unknow option --build="x86_64_linux_gnu" how can i disable that option [19:11] you simply don't call dh_auto_configure? [19:11] use ./configure as you did at first [19:11] yofel: ok [19:11] also you should probably send a mail to upstream [19:11] if --build is not recognized they either broke something or their autogen is like ancient [19:12] apachelogger: ok [19:13] apachelogger: so for now the new debian/rules that i created is ok? [19:13] apachelogger: here is the build log http://paste.kde.org/678590/ [19:14] if the clean target is complete [19:15] apachelogger: i have to check that [19:17] apachelogger: how can i check if the clean target is complete? [19:17] apachelogger: dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc && dpkg-buildpackage -S ? [19:18] yes [19:19] apachelogger: building with builder doesn't do that? [19:19] apachelogger: building with pbuilder doesn't do that? [19:20] no [19:20] apachelogger: ok i will try that now [19:25] apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/678668/ there are no patches in debian/patches [19:27] apachelogger: so is the clean target complete? [19:34] murthy: I don't see the patches mentioned *anywhere* though, can you "export DH_VERBOSE=1" and run it again please? [19:34] yofel: ok [19:36] yofel: http://paste.kde.org/678680/ [19:37] yofel: there is no series file in /debian/patches [19:37] murthy: different question: are there any patches left? [19:38] murthy: and you said earlier that you created a series file [19:38] yofel: all the patches were applied upstream and so i removed them [19:39] yofel: previously since it was using simple patch there was no series file [19:39] ah ok, then it's fine [19:39] yofel: so the clean target is complete? [19:39] yeah, but I got confused as you said that you created a series file but there were no patches [19:40] murthy: looks like you're fine with the defaults [19:40] yofel: ?? [19:40] yofel: http://media.moddb.com/images/downloads/1/34/33809/patches.png there you go [19:41] where's the shady slayer when you need him -.- [19:41] shadeslayer: P-I-N-G [19:41] apachelogger: stamp that on launchpad :P [19:41] murthy: dh_clean already does everything you need to do, so you don't need to do anything [19:41] luuuunchpats [19:42] yofel: nice [19:42] oho [19:42] launchpatch [19:42] trolololo [19:42] * apachelogger goes back to building qt5 [19:42] yofel: one last doubt about debian/rules [19:43] yofel: is it ok if i use "./configure $(DEB_CONFIGURE_NORMAL_ARGS) $(DEB_CONFIGURE_PREFIXS)" instead of "[ -f config.mak ] || ./configure $(DEB_CONFIGURE_NORMAL_ARGS) $(DEB_CONFIGURE_PREFIXS)" [19:44] depends on what config.mak is supposed to be [19:44] if you can imply that it's there, yes [19:47] yofel: since the previous debian/rules http://paste.kde.org/678524/ used this can i use the same in the new one? [19:49] should work [19:50] I wonder why config.mak would even be there though [19:52] yofel: because of this ? line 65 in here http://paste.kde.org/678680/ [19:52] yofel: also line 364 [19:53] yeah, that's what I mean - the file should never be there. But maybe it was in some older version. [19:53] just use the same command and it'll work [19:54] murthy: do you have a config.mak after your dpkg-buildpackage -S run? [19:54] (I assume not) [19:55] yofel: no, no such file present [19:57] yofel: should i put something like this to reflect the dh change "switch to dh > "? [19:57] yofel: in the changelog [19:58] yofel: "switch to dh > 7 " [19:58] yes, but a bit more verbose [19:59] yofel: "switch to debhelper version grater than 7" ? [19:59] yofel: no reason in particular, that's just how they happened to be listed. It does make sense to put removals first though [20:01] murthy: you can use that as a general changelog item, but then please document the individual changes you did [20:01] i.e. changing compat level, build-dep, rules changing, dropping cdbs, ... [20:02] yofel: http://paste.kde.org/678716/ [20:02] yofel: thats the changelog now, i will update it now [20:03] will be back after dinner [20:03] JontheEchidna: want a bug report? [20:04] yofel: it'd be for the best, yeah [20:04] k [20:04] I'd probably forget otherwise ;-) [20:04] ^^ [20:52] * yofel retries calligra again [20:52] Now [20:53] that I'm trying to install Kubuntu on my laptop [20:53] I wonder how does one use LVM when not using the entire disk, is it even possible? === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [20:53] Quintasan: more like: why would you want to do that? [20:54] you usually create partitions *inside* LVM [20:54] yofel: Thanks for letting me know about downtime, I have been wondering if it wouldn't be too hard on my iMX53 to run a core [20:54] yofel: Oh, well, that's true [20:54] the main problem is [20:54] Can I install windows then? [20:54] haven't tried it on my raspi. I can tell you that an old Pentium1 166MHz was too slow for quassel ^^ (just barely though) [20:55] hm, good question [20:55] after my last issues with grub2 and windows I never install linux and windows onto the same HDD [20:56] wow [20:56] Kubuntu discovered the system recovery partition from Lenovo and marked it as Windows 7 installation [20:59] hmm I wonder if I can get rid of that [21:00] do that after you order an installation media from lenovo [21:00] unless you can get a windows license key from Uni [21:00] I have a win key sticker under my battery [21:01] it has a cd key on it [21:01] yeah, but you'll need the CD for it (I think) [21:01] which you don't have [21:01] hmm [21:02] I personally have linux on a different HDD and put my windows HDD into my thinkpad baydrive HDD adapter when I need it - that ofc. requires a spare HDD [21:03] yofel: Any idea how can I order such a disk? I don't see anything like that on lenovo.com [21:03] Quintasan: the recovery partition should only be like 2% of the whole disk though [21:03] oh well [21:04] I could try renaming the grub entry before I install windows 7 [21:05] there is http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/detail.page?LegacyDocID=MIGR-4M7HWZ [21:05] but I don't know more than that [21:08] hmmm [21:08] yeah [21:08] you can order one [21:08] and I would rather do that [21:08] I wonder what the CD you create at the boot does then [21:16] * Quintasan tries upgrading KDE [21:17] apachelogger: P-O-N-G [21:21] shadeslayer: how's the trip so far? [21:23] yofel: the author of the libdlna has aked to send bug reports to his mail id. He hasn't mentioned any bug management system. http://libdlna.geexbox.org/ . So what to do? [21:23] send him a mail? [21:24] yofel: http://paste.kde.org/678776/ [21:24] yofel: ^ the changelog for libdlna [21:25] yofel: does the MOTO team maintain upstream bugs? [21:29] murthy: line 10-11 belong to the part below, and "Switch to Debhelper version greater than 7", should be something like "Switch to dh7 style buildsystem" or so [21:29] yofel: ok [21:30] s/dh > 7 incompatable/dh_auto_configure incompatible [21:30] dh_auto_configure existed before 7 [21:30] it did? [21:30] I thought it did [21:30] I think the whole auto stuff was introduced in dh7 [21:30] oh [21:30] but I may be wrong [21:30] good point [21:31] ::qt-bugs:: [1131926] package libqt4-qt3support 4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4.3 failed to install/upgrade: libqt4-qt3support:... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1131926 (by Håvard Korsvoll) [21:31] it would be still incompatible with dh_auto_configure though [21:31] but generally yeah, say we switched to dh7 build system [21:32] yofel: so i should mention"Override dh_auto_configure with custom command to workaround dh_auto_configure incompatable upstream configure script." ? [21:33] yeah, that's fine [21:33] yofel: isn't cdbs part of patch system so shouldn't be mention under the format change section? [21:34] cdbs is *not* a patch system, simple-patchsys which is part of cdbs is a patch system [21:34] yofel: ok [21:34] evening [21:34] cdbs stands for "Common Debian Build System" [21:36] murthy: I think you can remove " -Create debian/source/format with value "3.0 (quilt)"" - switching to 3.0 (quilt) implies that [21:36] yofel: thats what i thought [21:38] yofel: i read about cdbs for sometime yesterday as part the homework you assigned to me :) [21:41] cdbs is complex as anything [21:41] I'm not sorry to see it go out of fashion [21:42] ya [21:42] yofel: http://paste.kde.org/678788/ [21:42] Riddell: also i like quilt very much [21:42] Riddell: 3.0 [21:44] Riddell: i will try to upgrade the packages to dh7, format 3.0 and to the latest standards [21:45] murthy: one thing about style, you should write it like this: http://paste.kde.org/678212 [21:45] erm http://paste.kde.org/678794 [21:48] yofel: i saw some package changelogs for examples and i found most containing the one i am using, so i followed it. I will change it now. But i feel grouping by the major change would be more helpfull [21:49] uh, it's still grouped by major change (*), but grouping changes by file is also common [21:49] yofel: i am on it [21:49] or rather you don't write the file you change on every line if you have more then one change in a file [21:53] murthy: Usually when you do changes in .install files you don't really want to mention every single change, I usually write "Refreshed install files" [21:53] yofel: done http://paste.kde.org/678800/ [21:53] that was an example of course [21:53] Quintasan: ok [21:54] hm... ship it [21:54] :DDDD [21:56] yofel: nice [21:57] murthy: from what i've seen now at least, would need to test build to verify that everything's right. The logs look ok though so I'll leave that to the sponsor [21:57] LOL [21:57] yofel: there is a small rectrangular button right below the display [21:57] I have no idea what it is suppoed to do [21:57] the manual says [21:58] it's BLACK BUTTON [21:58] BRILLIANT [21:58] what o.O? [21:58] nothing else [21:58] number 7 - black button [21:58] xD [21:58] i will do a test build now [22:00] yofel: well [22:00] apparently it is supposed to boot the system into recovery [22:00]