[01:07] <nasalyn> how do i make a lenovo win 8 preinst. computer run lubuntu?  failed with reboot for demo and install
[02:49] <holstein> thiefy: i would try to connect locally.. see that the server is running.. ping from each machine
[08:07] <dandyfloss> hello...
[08:26] <dandyfloss> heh is everyone idling
[14:15] <sue1> lubuntu os successfully loaded; how do i make a check of the drivers to ensure saliency in install?
[14:19] <inductiveload> sue1: do you mean check which drivers you have loaded?
[14:20] <inductiveload> lsmod will tell you which driver modules are loaded into memory
[14:20] <sue1> i have a lenovo computer that may not fully function with lubuntu
[14:21] <sue1> so i need a sound to test it with
[14:21] <sue1> at leeast
[14:22] <inductiveload> well, you could try to play a file with mplayer?
[14:24] <sue1> sound plays successfully, any leads as to where else i should test before installing?
[14:27] <inductiveload> depends on what you use it for
[14:27] <sue1> laptop workstation
[14:27] <inductiveload> i mean, what _you_ use it for
[14:28] <inductiveload> test the things you want to make sure are working
[14:37] <sue1> so much happy :D
[14:37] <sue1> it even tooks a picture
[14:37]  * sue1 selected install
[14:38] <sue1> im a happy ass burger nau
[14:38] <sue1> {
[14:38] <sue1> (PROFFERS hug)
[14:38] <sue1> (s)
[14:39] <inductiveload> :-)
[14:39] <sue1> i may not sue freenode after all
[14:39] <sue1> for religiosu discrimination et cetera
[14:40] <sue1> and other butthurt asshattery from ##windblows
[14:40] <holstein> sue1: try the offtopic channel for chat... thanks!
[15:14] <cerebrate> i didnt expect abuse on a network like freenode *sob*
[15:14] <cerebrate> hu hu lu here
[15:14] <cerebrate> lu peng
[15:16] <holstein> cerebrate: try the #lubuntu-offtopic channel.. cheers!
[15:25] <cerebrate> please elucidate location of profile photo
[15:25] <cerebrate> or how to take another one to share over irc
[15:28] <holstein> cerebrate: just open a photo taking application, such as cheese (installable if you dont have it) and post where you like (imagebin)
[15:28] <cerebrate> aye aye,
[15:31] <cerebrate> password prompt seemingly disappeared, something about updating software, alreadyhave synaptic running, couldn't i use synapic insteadt
[15:32] <holstein> cerebrate: you can only install software from one thing at a time.. if you are updating, you will need to wait.. if you are installing cheese, you will need to wait to upgrade
[15:33] <cerebrate> alritey
[15:44] <cerebrate> how do i get quick launching icons for other apps et cetera on my analog to a taskbar?
[15:44] <cerebrate> in lxde
[15:46] <holstein> cerebrate: what other apps?
[15:46] <cerebrate> xchat
[15:46] <cerebrate> xterm
[15:46] <cerebrate> emacs
[15:46] <cerebrate> cant enumerate or elucidate others
[15:46] <cerebrate> perhaps some functions like the one preinstalled on the analog
[15:48] <holstein> http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Main_Menu
[15:49] <holstein> what do i do? i use kupfer, or gnome-do, or synapse
[15:49] <cerebrate> no 'prende
[15:49] <holstein> !info kupfer
[15:49] <cerebrate> i lack answersufficient research to effectively
[15:49] <cerebrate> sorry
[15:50] <cerebrate> i have issue with my touchpadh
[15:50] <holstein> ^^ i use that instead of the menu
[15:50] <holstein> i would read the link above for information about how to add items manually to the menu
[18:53] <cerebrate> cant ask in ##linux how to disable touchpad , any leads-
[18:54] <cerebrate> disabling the driver would stop the annoying malfunctions
[18:58] <holstein> http://askubuntu.com/questions/65951/how-to-disable-touchpad
[18:59] <inductiveload> cerebrate:  synclient TouchpadOff=1
[18:59] <cerebrate> alright, functions nonannoyingly :D
[20:03] <Ville_> hi! i've been trying to install lubuntu on my new netbook. The problem is that instead of launching to gui it sends me to a commandline enviroment. there it asks login and recognises the user i made while installing. any ideas on whats wrong?
[20:04] <cerebrate> i want to extra beautify my lubuntu
[20:04] <cerebrate> knoppix style
[20:05] <holstein> cerebrate: try like this "i would like to make x look like y" or " make the panel this color" etc... as specific as you think would help the volunteers here help you
[20:05] <holstein> Ville_: try nomodeset http://useranswer.com/answer/can-i-install-ubuntulubuntu-on-a-pc-with-a-video-card-that-is-not-supported-if-i-add-nomodeset-in-using-the-live-cdusb/
[20:12] <zleap> what is the best way to upgrade nvidia drivers ?
[20:13] <holstein> zleap: i just use the upgrade manger.. or sudo apt-get upgrad and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:13] <zleap> ok thanks
[20:13] <genii-around> zleap: If you have successfully installed the proprietary drivers from Jockey, it will just upgrade them as needed through DKMS
[20:13] <zleap> partrly as steam wants newer drivers
[20:13] <cerebrate> i would like dark subdued colors on my 'theme'
[20:13] <holstein> zleap: when updates are available, they will be there.. if you want something "newer", you can try the xorg ppa that steam suggests
[20:13] <cerebrate> in lxde
[20:14] <holstein> cerebrate: i would pick a darker theme
[20:14] <cerebrate> i dont see any theme selector
[20:14] <zleap> ok
[20:15] <zleap> i would rather let the system do it and not risk screwing things up
[20:15] <holstein> cerebrate: http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=31312
[20:15] <Ville_> holstein: followed the insructions, problem didn't goa way
[20:15] <holstein> zleap: i have chosen to wait til i find i *need* to upgrade the drivers
[20:15] <holstein> Ville_: can you get to the live CD desktop with nomodeset?
[20:15] <zleap> yeah best way
[20:15] <zleap> i don't NEED steam at the moment
[20:16] <zleap> i guess the newer drivers will eventuallyfind their way in to the update stuff
[20:16] <zleap> after they have been screened and know to work problem free
[20:16] <holstein> zleap: depends...
[20:16] <zleap> ok
[20:16] <zleap> i guess i can just keep trying steam as it may have the new drivers already
[20:17] <holstein> the versions (like 12.04) usually are "locked" or "frozen" and recieve security updates. but drivers like that might go differently
[20:18] <zleap> well my system is working fine atm
[20:18] <zleap> i do actually need to upgrade at some ppoiint and replace linpus with newer lubuntu
[20:18] <zleap> it wants 304.22
[20:20] <zleap> ok 304 is in additional drivers but is beta I will wait
[20:22] <Ville_> Holstein: it gives error on update-grub command, cant get /cow-path
[20:22] <holstein> Ville_: boot the live CD, and try nomodeset
[20:22] <holstein> Ville_: boot the live CD, and after the bios.. tap shift til you see options at the bottom.. F6 is where "nomodeset" is located
[20:30] <Ville_> holstein: it doesn't open anything to F6, only F-button thatt opens anything is F1 for help, in help I can acces pages with the othe F-buttons so physical malfunction seems unlikely
[20:30] <holstein> Ville_: this is from boot time
[20:30] <holstein> Ville_: when you have the machine *off* and the cd in the drive.. you hit the power button
[20:31] <holstein> after the bios screens, you start tapping or holding shift.. then you'll see a menu.. at the bottom are options.. one of those options is F6.. in that F6 menu, you'll see "nomodeset".. select that and continue to "try live". *not* install
[20:32] <holstein> see if you get to the live CD using nomodeset... or any other other other options there
[20:32] <Ville_> found it
[20:33] <zleap> lok
[20:33] <zleap> linux file size 37mb  windows file size 210mb
[20:34] <zleap> the 37 seems odd whenb you look at the versiob number being 304.37 but even so one heck of a difference
[20:38] <Ville_> holstein: still launches to commandline
[20:39] <holstein> Ville_: try "startx" and see what error
[20:40] <Ville_> is it another booting option, or is do i type it to the commandline?
[20:41] <holstein> Ville_: you can type that, right there, where im asuming you are only seeing a place to type things
[20:41] <holstein> Ville_: type this... exactly.. "startx" without the quotation marks, and press the "enter" key
[20:42] <Ville_> fatal server error: no screens found
[20:43] <holstein> Ville_: what would i do? boot a knoppix live cd.. get the desktop loaded and looking the way i want.. copy the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file from there, and put it in lubuntu which i would istall using the alternate iso
[20:45] <holstein> Ville_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/58488/x-does-not-want-to-start-at-all-no-screens-have-a-usable-configuration lists an xorg.conf file that i think would work
[21:00] <Ville_> holstein: looking at the log file, I know that I'm way out of my league to find the specific problem. Your advice is to try a different distro?
[21:01] <holstein> Ville_: my advice is to try the vesa driver
[21:01] <Ville_> how do i try it?
[21:01] <holstein> Ville_: using the live knoppix CD is an easy way to get a nice xorg.conf file, similar to the one above i linked, but one that you know will work with your hardware
[21:01] <holstein> Ville_: you can use the xorg.conf i linked above
[21:04] <Ville_> how do I edit xorg.conf?
[21:05] <tagava> can i use password parameter in encfs?
[21:05] <holstein> Ville_: you just put one in place.. like the one i linked above
[21:06] <holstein> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5556278/ Ville_ , and you'll do that from the installed os that is not working
[21:06] <holstein> bbl...
[21:16] <Noskcaj> http://imgur.com/wVG3AmE
[21:19] <Noskcaj> ping to anyone who is part of the artwork team
[21:22] <zleap> does lubuntu offer the same install options as ubuntu as in install side by side and auto pull over files from a windows install ?
[21:25] <Ville_> holstein: It went from bad to  xworse, it no longer gives me even the commandline, the screen just goes black. I'm calling it for to day and trying it next
[21:26] <Ville_> time with just the basic ubuntu
[21:27] <bastarden> hello...anyone knows what is the default root password for lubuntu 12.10 live cd?
[21:28] <zleap> i didn't think there was a password on the cd
[21:28] <zleap> it just boots straight in to it
[21:28] <bastarden> i booted but when i try to su it requires a password
[21:28] <bastarden> root/lubuntu is not working
[21:29] <zleap> try no password just press enter
[21:29] <bastarden> that doesn`t work either :(
[21:29] <zleap> hmm dunno then
[21:30] <bastarden> :\
[21:34] <wxl> bastarden: afaik there is no root pw
[21:35] <bastarden> yeah i figured it out now...tried sudo ...etc and worked...thks
[21:35] <wxl> sudo passwd root works too
[21:35] <bastarden> all good now...thanks again
[21:38] <cerebrate> need to raise sound volume
[21:39] <wxl> cerebrate: alsamixer
[21:54] <Vivekananda> hey everyone. First time install of lubuntu and testing it out. Have a lot of questions . Any takers.
[21:56] <cerebrate> o/
[21:56] <holstein> http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Main_Menu
[21:56] <holstein> ^^ how to edit menu
[21:57] <Vivekananda> holstein: was that meant for me?
[21:57] <holstein> Vivekananda: yes.. that is how you edit the menu
[21:59] <Vivekananda> holstein: nope I dont want to edit the menu. I want the upper panel bar to allow me to "move" the placement of icons on it as I did in gnome .
[21:59] <holstein> Vivekananda: you edit that in the panel config
[22:00] <Vivekananda> Second I need to employ keyboard shortcuts for some of the most common things. It was easy there but here I apparently have to write xml to do it ?
[22:01] <holstein> http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/applications/464429-lxde-keyboard-shortcuts.html or exmple
[22:01] <Vivekananda> On gnome I could right click on panel bar on any icon and it showed an option of "move" along with other options. I am not getting that option here
[22:01] <holstein> Vivekananda: this is not gnome.. its different in lxde
[22:01] <holstein> in lxde, you right click and change the order
[22:02] <holstein> there is no "move" like that.. its lighter, which is a compromise
[22:02] <Vivekananda> so no placement according to my wish . Ok. I was just making sure what I would and what I would not find here.
[22:02] <Vivekananda> sure sure. Just makign sure
[22:03] <holstein> Vivekananda: i cant imagine where you would want it that you cant get it
[22:03] <holstein> you can add empyt space, expand.. remove.. customize
[22:03] <holstein> its all open.. and there are other panels, like the XFCE one that is more like gnome2 was
[22:04] <holstein> rather than just tweaking lxde to be more like XFCE, you might want to just try it
[22:04] <holstein> there is "move" options in the panel... menu editors... and keyboard shortcut GUI
[22:05] <Vivekananda> holstein: so what happenned is that Installed cairo doc and then removed the section of the panel that displays open windows ( like in windows) . When I did that all icons from the right ( viz the clock , shut down) just alingned themselves to the left. Now everytihng is clubbed together on the left ( my panel is at the top and horizontal)
[22:07] <holstein> Vivekananda: you can just remove the panel config in your /home to return to default
[22:07] <Vivekananda> oo ok so spacer helped me out
[22:07] <holstein> Vivekananda: i would make a new user and test, or try the guest account
[22:07] <Vivekananda> now everything is spaced out on the whole of the panel . That is better.
[22:10] <Vivekananda> holstein: One biggie. Suppose I install say eclipse in lubuntu with different plugins as I did in gnome. will there be lesser features in its gui ? I might have misunderstood but read somewhere that the packaging of some programs is not very conducive to lubuntu ( eg awn ) ...
[22:10] <holstein> no.. even awn will just be awn... awn needs 3d drivers in lxde or xfce or unity.. or gnome.. or whatever
[22:11] <Vivekananda> Also what do I do about the graphics troubleshooting ( I am going to try looking this up online )
[22:11] <holstein> Vivekananda: its the same
[22:11] <holstein> !ati
[22:11] <holstein> ^^ thats for *all* ubuntu's...
[22:11] <holstein> common sense might need be applied when certain applications native to the desktop environments are referenced
[22:12] <Vivekananda> I did not do any setups for gnome lucid though. not sure why the video is in slow motion now.
[22:12] <Vivekananda> I mean for the video card
[22:12] <holstein> Vivekananda: lucid is older.. that is the difference.. not gnome to LXDE..
[22:12] <holstein> Vivekananda: you are on a different kernel.. different graphics driver.. this is not an LXDE specific issue
[22:13] <Vivekananda> I have a lot of questions so keep on asking if it is okay. Pleas feel free to skip unimportant ones :)
[22:13] <holstein> Vivekananda: you can install lucid, and get it back just the way it was, and install lxde and test
[22:13] <holstein> OR, you can just try to find the proper graphics drive for your current system
[22:13] <holstein> Vivekananda: ask away.. thats what we are here for
[22:13] <Vivekananda> holstein:  I understand and hence trying to trouble shoot. I cannot so so many installs so fast coz it takes 40 mins for one install to complete :(
[22:14] <Vivekananda> I am going to address each of the issues one by one
[22:14] <Vivekananda> so first onto keybindings
[22:15] <Vivekananda> I would like to install gedit though or something better than the lightweight one here
[22:16] <holstein> Vivekananda: "better" is a matter of opinion.. just open the package manager of your choice and install gedit
[22:16] <holstein> sudo apt-get install gedit
[22:16] <holstein> to say "better than the lightweight one here" is uncessesary, since you dont know who of the volunteers here might maintain that package..
[22:18] <Vivekananda> I just meant more suited to coding and things like syntax highlight and formatting. can the leaf thingy here do that  also ?
[22:18] <holstein> i dont know.. install gedit if you want. or geany
[22:19] <Vivekananda> I dont see a sound app for headphones/ mic etc.
[22:19] <Vivekananda> I mean one that has options for them.
[22:19] <holstein> Vivekananda: you can install pulse and install pavucontrol if you want/prefer
[22:19] <holstein> otherwise, you can use alsamixer, or the GUI one
[22:20] <Vivekananda> I dont know what the difference is between pulse and also but the video I tried running ( an flv) had no sound when trying pulse so switched to alsa
[22:21] <holstein> Vivekananda: no.. lubuntu has alsa, not pulse
[22:22] <Vivekananda> you suggested pulse above though ?? Did you mean it is not there by default but I could install it ?
[22:23] <Vivekananda> One thing I want to do is add a terminal launcher to the panel on top. but it does not have that ( although it allows for creating customized launchers )
[22:25] <holstein> correct.. if you prefer, and are used to pulse, you can install it, and pavucontrol
[22:30] <cerebrate> operation already pending on potential playback of video recording dvd :/
[22:30] <cerebrate> for like 30 minutes ;-;
[22:32] <tagava> can i use password parameter in encfs?
[23:03] <holstein> !dvd
[23:03] <holstein> cerebrate: ^^
[23:08] <cerebrate> y thank u :O
[23:14] <Vivekananda> hey holstein you there
[23:20] <Vivekananda> hey there anyone here. I was trying to include the keybind alt+a to open a terminal
[23:20] <Vivekananda> it does not work
[23:20] <cerebrate> id like that too
[23:20] <cerebrate> maybe if we pool our research efforts we can achieve some sort of success viv.
[23:20] <cerebrate> but holstein will just come up with the correct approach i guess
[23:53] <Vivekananda> cerebrate: it was my bad
[23:53] <Vivekananda> sloppy , very sloppy
[23:53] <Vivekananda> it did work
[23:53] <Vivekananda> In case you were referring to me above
[23:54] <Vivekananda> anyone here