| davecheney | hello, thumper told me to complain in here about the 'my machine is too fast for lightdm' bug | 00:27 |
|---|---|---|
| jasoncwarner_ | hey bryce, rickspencer3 just started to get a weird visual corruption on his desktop with his i945 device. Any reason he would be getting that? | 00:40 |
| jasoncwarner_ | he is pretty sure it just started happening. | 00:40 |
| rickspencer3 | hi bryce | 00:40 |
| thumper | hi jasoncwarner_ | 00:40 |
| thumper | hi rickspencer3 | 00:40 |
| jasoncwarner_ | they thumper | 00:40 |
| rickspencer3 | well< I just started noticing it in the sound indicator | 00:40 |
| thumper | I have no desktop | 00:40 |
| jasoncwarner_ | hey, rather | 00:40 |
| rickspencer3 | hey thumper | 00:40 |
| thumper | I just upgraded to raring | 00:41 |
| thumper | and I get a wallpaper | 00:41 |
| thumper | and that's it | 00:41 |
| rickspencer3 | dang it! | 00:41 |
| rickspencer3 | what is going on these days | 00:41 |
| thumper | you can't look at me now for that :) | 00:41 |
| rickspencer3 | 13.04 has been really unstable for the last few days | 00:41 |
| jasoncwarner_ | thumper did it get uninstalled? like, partial update or someting? | 00:41 |
| thumper | unity is there | 00:41 |
| thumper | but unity-panel-service is not | 00:41 |
| thumper | When I try to start untiy | 00:42 |
| jasoncwarner_ | thumper: not installed? or not running? | 00:42 |
| thumper | I get compiz started | 00:42 |
| thumper | core initialises | 00:42 |
| thumper | then it says "unity-panel-service: no process found" | 00:42 |
| thumper | there is no unity-panel-service installed | 00:42 |
| thumper | there should be | 00:42 |
| thumper | :) | 00:42 |
| jasoncwarner_ | thumper: aye...seems you might have had a partial update. rickspencer3 had one of those yesterday (unrelated)... | 00:43 |
| jasoncwarner_ | no bueno | 00:43 |
| bschaefer | thumper, is this your problem? https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/1130679 | 00:43 |
| ubot2` | Ubuntu bug 1130679 in Compiz "[2013/02/20] compiz/unity don't run, just loading cpp" [Critical,In progress] | 00:43 |
| jasoncwarner_ | can you manually install it? | 00:43 |
| thumper | I'm not sure what package it is supposed to be | 00:43 |
| bschaefer | (if you did a dist-upgrade) | 00:43 |
| thumper | hi bschaefer | 00:43 |
| bschaefer | thumper, hello! | 00:43 |
| thumper | bschaefer: I had the same problem with quantal this morning | 00:43 |
| thumper | and I thought that upgrading to raring would fix it | 00:43 |
| thumper | but no :( | 00:44 |
| bschaefer | thumper, o interesting, someone else was as well | 00:44 |
| thumper | I know that veebers had the issue on the testing laptop | 00:44 |
| bschaefer | ChrisTownsend was | 00:44 |
| jasoncwarner_ | bryceh in case you missed the above (I messaged bryce nick instead ;) ) - rickspencer3 just started to get a weird visual corruption on his desktop with his i945 device. Any reason he would be getting that? | 00:44 |
| bschaefer | thumper, hmm have you tried starting u-p-s manually? | 00:44 |
| bschaefer | then starting unity | 00:45 |
| thumper | bschaefer: I can't, it isn't installed | 00:45 |
| bschaefer | thumper, really? very strange, is unity installed? | 00:45 |
| thumper | bschaefer: yes | 00:45 |
| thumper | bschaefer: which may be the reason there is a problem | 00:45 |
| bschaefer | thumper, hmm possibly a --reinstall could bring it back | 00:46 |
| bschaefer | as mine is here; /usr/lib/unity/unity-panel-service | 00:46 |
| rickspencer3 | thumper, could you please log a bug | 00:46 |
| thumper | bschaefer: actually, I see the panel service there | 00:46 |
| rickspencer3 | and I think there are log files from the update process that might help | 00:46 |
| bschaefer | very strange, as just doing a 'unity | 00:47 |
| thumper | bschaefer: why is it there and not /usr/bin?? | 00:47 |
| bschaefer | ' should start it up | 00:47 |
| * bschaefer has no clue | 00:47 | |
| rickspencer3 | thumper, have you been abusing this machine for development in your past as a Unity dev? | 00:47 |
| rickspencer3 | like, what crazy PPAs are you running? ;) | 00:47 |
| jasoncwarner_ | thumper: aye, file a bug and send my way...in the meantime, can you manually install it and get it running? (like will it allow you to install it?) | 00:48 |
| thumper | rickspencer3: none now, another benefit of upgrading | 00:48 |
| thumper | it seems I do have /usr/lib/unity/unity-panel-service | 00:48 |
| thumper | it is executable | 00:48 |
| thumper | but not in the default path | 00:48 |
| thumper | running u-p-s manually didn't help unity start | 00:49 |
| bschaefer | right, which the 'unity' script should be starting that anyway hmm | 00:49 |
| bschaefer | thumper, you could try /usr/lib/unity/unity-panel-service; compiz --replace ccp& | 00:50 |
| bschaefer | thumper, because looking at the unity script it seems to kill u-p-s... | 00:50 |
| thumper | hahaha | 00:51 |
| bschaefer | and if it can't find it, then it'll just kill it...leaving you nothing | 00:51 |
| * thumper sighs | 00:52 | |
| thumper | it fails trying to load the ini backend | 00:52 |
| thumper | with a programmer error | 00:52 |
| thumper | can't find interface type 6 | 00:52 |
| * thumper looks at old env file | 00:52 | |
| * thumper set to ubuntu profile | 00:53 | |
| thumper | ccp still fails | 00:53 |
| bschaefer | :( | 00:53 |
| thumper | Unable to find interface type 12 | 00:53 |
| bschaefer | thumper, thats this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/1130679 | 00:53 |
| ubot2` | Ubuntu bug 1130679 in Compiz "[2013/02/20] compiz/unity don't run, just loading cpp" [Critical,In progress] | 00:53 |
| bschaefer | :) | 00:53 |
| bschaefer | which will be fixed soon (when it merges) | 00:53 |
| thumper | yep... | 00:53 |
| thumper | bschaefer: what is the ETA on that? | 00:54 |
| bschaefer | thumper, idk, I approved this like 6 hours ago... | 00:54 |
| thumper | what is the auto-merger doing? | 00:54 |
| bschaefer | im not sure, even CI green lighted it 5 hours ago | 00:54 |
| bschaefer | thumper, you could compile compiz from trunk ;) | 00:55 |
| thumper | bschaefer: not any more thank you :) | 00:55 |
| bschaefer | haha | 00:55 |
| thumper | jasoncwarner_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/1131489 | 01:07 |
| ubot2` | Ubuntu bug 1131489 in Unity "Unity fails to start" [Undecided,New] | 01:07 |
| jasoncwarner_ | thanks thumper | 01:08 |
| thumper | jasoncwarner_: my laptop is going to sit here mostly useless until this is fixed :( | 01:12 |
| thumper | unless I can run metacity? | 01:13 |
| thumper | do we even still ship that? | 01:13 |
| thumper | ha | 01:13 |
| thumper | we do | 01:13 |
| thumper | at least I have window management back | 01:13 |
| thumper | and can move and resize | 01:14 |
| === _thumper_ is now known as thumper | ||
| thumper | ok, at least I now have email, irc and a terminal running | 01:16 |
| thumper | and can work | 01:16 |
| thumper | but using metacity not unity | 01:16 |
| bschaefer | how dare you! (though i do wish that branch would merge...) | 01:19 |
| bschaefer | thumper, I think all people who handle the auto merger are away atm | 01:19 |
| * bschaefer re-approves the branch | 01:20 | |
| === _thumper_ is now known as thumper | ||
| thumper | veebers: do you know anything about the automerger? | 01:27 |
| veebers | thumper: not enough to be helpful in this instance I fear | 01:28 |
| thumper | ok | 01:28 |
| veebers | thumper: where is the issue? are you looking at a specific MP? | 01:28 |
| bschaefer | veebers, https://code.launchpad.net/~compiz-team/compiz/compiz.fix_1130679/+merge/149574 | 01:28 |
| thumper | bschaefer: can you point veebers at it? | 01:28 |
| thumper | bschaefer: ta | 01:28 |
| bschaefer | veebers, I just re-approved it | 01:28 |
| bschaefer | thumper, np | 01:28 |
| === thumper is now known as thumper-afk | ||
| veebers | bschaefer: I'm taking a look at it now | 01:40 |
| bschaefer | veebers, thank you! | 01:40 |
| === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk | ||
| === thumper-afk is now known as thumper | ||
| === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha | ||
| === smspilla|z is now known as smspillaz | ||
| === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk | ||
| === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha | ||
| pitti | Good morning | 06:24 |
| jibel | good morning | 08:01 |
| === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk | ||
| === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan | ||
| seb128 | happy friday desktopers | 09:19 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128, hereux vendredi! | 09:20 |
| seb128 | pitti, salut, ca va bien ? | 09:20 |
| desrt | bonan vendredo, ĉiuj | 09:20 |
| pitti | oui, merci! wrestling with gnome :) | 09:20 |
| pitti | hey desrt | 09:20 |
| tkamppeter | mlankhorst, should we do the Pandaboard stuff now? | 09:23 |
| mlankhorst | sure ill be there in a bit, looking for something before i go to the office | 09:25 |
| mlankhorst | ah nm found it, going to the office :P | 09:25 |
| === vrruiz_ is now known as rvr_ | ||
| czajkowski | morning folks | 10:06 |
| * czajkowski hugs TheMuso I have sound! | 10:06 | |
| czajkowski | seb128: this was the bug I was trying to explain yesterday. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/1131372 | 10:10 |
| ubot2` | Ubuntu bug 1131372 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "When logging in user name and machine name become highlighed" [Undecided,New] | 10:10 |
| seb128 | czajkowski, hey | 10:10 |
| seb128 | mterry, ^ saw such issues before? | 10:11 |
| mterry | seb128, no | 10:12 |
| czajkowski | :/ | 10:12 |
| czajkowski | well if it's meant to highlight I'll be happy, :) | 10:12 |
| czajkowski | but just seems odd | 10:12 |
| seb128 | when did that start? | 10:12 |
| czajkowski | seb128: also https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1131321 | 10:13 |
| ubot2` | Ubuntu bug 1131321 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "Emptying Rubbish bin doesn't bring you to focused folder" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 10:13 |
| seb128 | is that raring? | 10:13 |
| czajkowski | yup | 10:13 |
| czajkowski | I do like Raring btw :) | 10:13 |
| mterry | czajkowski, oh in that case "it's meant to highlight" | 10:13 |
| mterry | One more happy user! | 10:13 |
| czajkowski | it just has these little quirks :) | 10:13 |
| mterry | seb128, yeah raring | 10:13 |
| === Nafallo_ is now known as Nafallo | ||
| mterry | (from bug) | 10:14 |
| seb128 | czajkowski, that nautilus bug is weird as well, here "empty bin" doesn't open nautilus views | 10:14 |
| czajkowski | I find unique bugs, what can I say | 10:14 |
| mterry | czajkowski, we love testers like you :) | 10:15 |
| czajkowski | mterry: I shall remind you , you said that at some point when I find more unique ones :) | 10:20 |
| mterry | czajkowski, well, I also have a love of ignoring bugs :) | 10:21 |
| czajkowski | :( | 10:21 |
| czajkowski | yeah but that empty recycling one is a bit odd, you really think you're about to empty /home and then you check | 10:21 |
| m4n1sh | mvo: ping | 10:21 |
| m4n1sh | mvo: i made the changes to the merge req as you asked for https://code.launchpad.net/~manishsinha/software-properties/fix-874766-updates-tab-failed-auth/+merge/148924 | 10:21 |
| mvo | m4n1sh: let me look | 10:22 |
| m4n1sh | mvo: thanks | 10:22 |
| TheMuso | czajkowski: Good to hear. | 10:44 |
| robru | seb128, did you get a chance to look at uploading Friends to raring yet? | 10:50 |
| mlankhorst | Laney: g'day | 10:54 |
| seb128 | robru, ken did upload, I need to review, thanks for the reminder | 10:55 |
| seb128 | robru, doing that now | 10:55 |
| robru | seb128, ok, thanks | 10:55 |
| desrt | robru: stop distracting seb. he has gtk to upload. | 10:58 |
| mlankhorst | I read abstracting seb for some reason | 11:02 |
| m4n1sh | mvo: you want me to update the branch or will merge it? | 11:24 |
| mlankhorst | oh anyone sitting nearby and wanting to sign my canonical gpg key by any chance so I can become a debian dev? :P | 11:26 |
| mvo | m4n1sh: its fine, I just wanted to mention it as its a neat python thing, I will merge | 11:26 |
| desrt | mvo: enjoying brno? ;) | 11:33 |
| mvo | desrt: yeah, very different but good | 11:36 |
| pitti | mvo: err, you are in Brno? | 11:36 |
| desrt | mvo: having fun with the czech? | 11:37 |
| mvo | desrt: hm? now I'm confused | 11:39 |
| mvo | pitti: im in büro ;) | 11:39 |
| desrt | mvo: a few days ago a guy named mvo on gimpnet was talking about how he was going to brno | 11:39 |
| mvo | desrt: woah, yet another mvo - there is also marius volmer (mvo) who is a free software guy. I guess I simply need a longer nick | 11:40 |
| * mvo needs to leave for some minutes to get some food | 11:40 | |
| desrt | mvo: yes. it was that one :) | 11:41 |
| desrt | mvo: for about 3 minutes everyone on the desktop team was wondering why you would go to the redhat conference :) | 11:42 |
| didrocks | hey guys, long time no see :) | 11:44 |
| seb128 | didrocks, hey | 11:44 |
| seb128 | didrocks, already at the trains station? | 11:44 |
| didrocks | seb128: yep, security done, passport control as well | 11:45 |
| didrocks | just waiting for my train now :) | 11:45 |
| seb128 | didrocks, what time is your train? | 11:45 |
| didrocks | seb128: 12:58, I was a little bit too pessimistic about the UK trains/subway | 11:45 |
| didrocks | after what Laney told me… ;) | 11:45 |
| didrocks | they still managed to have all trains 4 minutes late | 11:46 |
| seb128 | yeah | 11:46 |
| didrocks | (better than 1h) | 11:46 |
| desrt | didrocks: welcome to schengen | 11:46 |
| didrocks | desrt: yeah, it feels like a totally different country here ;) | 11:47 |
| didrocks | no snow, nothing :p | 11:47 |
| desrt | different plugs, i hear | 11:47 |
| didrocks | desrt: normal ones, you meant I guess :) | 11:48 |
| didrocks | or rather "right ones" | 11:48 |
| didrocks | I see that desrt is always exhaustive in his reports :) | 11:50 |
| didrocks | like "and wrote that email" :) | 11:50 |
| desrt | :) | 11:50 |
| desrt | i forgot a few items, in fact | 11:50 |
| desrt | but too late to add them now | 11:50 |
| didrocks | heh | 11:51 |
| didrocks | like "oh btw…" | 11:51 |
| Laney | you left just before we had some daily landing fun ;-) | 11:57 |
| didrocks | 11:59:48 didrocks | ahah! seems it was the right time :) │ bdrung | 12:02 |
| didrocks | 11:59:50 didrocks | what happened? │ bigon | 12:02 |
| didrocks | Laney: ^ | 12:02 |
| seb128 | didrocks, weird copy/paste | 12:03 |
| didrocks | seb128: copying lines in weechat… | 12:03 |
| seb128 | weeeeee | 12:03 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 12:03 |
| didrocks | ;) | 12:03 |
| seb128 | didrocks, some libindicator/libappindicator issues in the landing | 12:04 |
| seb128 | didrocks, incorrect path in a .install for the gtk3 version of the lib apparently | 12:04 |
| seb128 | breaking builds | 12:04 |
| didrocks | interesting, needed some tests then? I guess cyphermox is on top of the story :) | 12:05 |
| seb128 | yeah, Laney and him are on it | 12:06 |
| didrocks | cyphermox: don't worry if you need to trigger some rebuilds then to have this fixed before the week-end | 12:06 |
| didrocks | excellent, thanks Laney, cyphermox :-) | 12:06 |
| cyphermox | didrocks: yeah we'll add autopkgtests to catch this in the future | 12:06 |
| didrocks | \o/ | 12:06 |
| didrocks | it's in the distro for quite some days, weird that the alarm bell didn't ring before :) | 12:07 |
| seb128 | didrocks, people keep the fun for friday | 12:07 |
| cyphermox | didrocks: well it's the non-gtk3 one, and we build almost everything with the gtk3 version | 12:07 |
| cyphermox | seb128: don't get me starting on friday changes | 12:07 |
| didrocks | cyphermox: who cares about non gtk3? I think desrt will agree ;) | 12:07 |
| cyphermox | didrocks: I still don't undetstand why appindicator didn't go red in the faily builds | 12:07 |
| cyphermox | didrocks: hehe | 12:08 |
| cyphermox | oh | 12:08 |
| didrocks | ah ok, bug #1131708 :) | 12:11 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1131708 in libindicator (Ubuntu) "-dev symlink broken (shared library installed in non-MA dir)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1131708 | 12:11 |
| cyphermox | Laney: dropping the .a file looks safe too, I'll file a merge for that and check the rdepends | 12:15 |
| Laney | the bot rejected my MP because of no commit message in it | 12:16 |
| Laney | will it automatically pick up the one I added? | 12:16 |
| vibhav | Not to trouble you guys, but what exact changes do you make to libnotify so that it both works with Unity and gnome-shell? | 12:17 |
| vibhav | Or does each shell prescribe notification routines which libnotify calls? | 12:19 |
| Laney | zgrep "Ryan Lortie" /usr/share/doc/*/changelog.Debian.gz | 12:21 |
| cyphermox | hehe | 12:22 |
| didrocks | I do prefer with [ ], way more stylish :) | 12:23 |
| mlankhorst | http://pink.bikeshed.com/ | 12:26 |
| mvo | desrt: haha, indeed. funny, he uses "mv" on freenode | 12:44 |
| davmor2 | mvo: Hey dude | 13:04 |
| mvo | hey davmor2! | 13:06 |
| === dpm is now known as dpm-lunch | ||
| jbicha | bug 1131664 sounds like it's going to be a big headache to maintain, I mean why stop at those 3 apps, why not patch in the old menus to everything? | 14:08 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1131664 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "Patch the menus of the 'Calculator' and 'System Settings' apps to fit with Unity" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1131664 | 14:09 |
| seb128 | jbicha, because everything is like 5 GNOME apps | 14:16 |
| seb128 | so we could do it for "everything" ;-) | 14:16 |
| jbicha | seb128: it's a lot more than 5, Contacts, Empathy, Totem, Disks, Font Viewer, Screenshot, Archive Manager, Mahjongg, Mines, Sudoku, etc. | 14:24 |
| seb128 | yeah, I guess with the split games and utils you can go up to 15 | 14:27 |
| seb128 | on the 15000 sources we have | 14:27 |
| mdeslaur | could just revert a bunch of those to older versions :P | 14:27 |
| seb128 | but yeah, it's annoying | 14:27 |
| seb128 | maybe we should just find applications to replace those with | 14:28 |
| jbicha | I'm sure it's even higher than 15 if you count universe | 14:28 |
| seb128 | jbicha, right, I was speaking about things we use under Unity | 14:29 |
| seb128 | if users decide to install apps that don't work well under Unity that's their problem | 14:29 |
| seb128 | not something we recommend them doing | 14:30 |
| jbicha | lol, the apps work fine under Unity | 14:30 |
| === dpm-lunch is now known as dpm | ||
| jbicha | Design's request to modify the System Settings menu doesn't make sense though; it's all of two items, Help & Close | 14:32 |
| seb128 | they just have weird menus | 14:32 |
| jbicha | seb128: it's not weird if 2/3 of the pre-installed apps do it | 14:33 |
| jbicha | Evince 3.8 switched too | 14:33 |
| seb128 | jbicha, well depends of what you define "weird", user testing showed that users don't get the difference between the shell menu and the cog dropdown one | 14:36 |
| === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley | ||
| === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha | ||
| jbicha | seb128: I'm sure GNOME would be interested to see that user testing; since Nautilus has so many menu items I don't object to Ubuntu trying to use the "classic" menu structure | 15:06 |
| jbicha | but I don't see the point in trying to add complex menus to simple utilities and games and I don't think those patches will be fun to write or maintain | 15:07 |
| desrt | jbicha: did you talk to cosimo? | 15:07 |
| === Ursinha_ is now known as Ursinha | ||
| jbicha | desrt: ? | 15:09 |
| desrt | about menus in nautilus | 15:09 |
| desrt | he indicated during UDS that he may be willing to make some changes that would help us there | 15:10 |
| desrt | i also talked to him about it at boston summit | 15:10 |
| desrt | TheMuso: fd leaks? | 15:10 |
| jbicha | desrt: no I haven't talked to him about that, maybe mterry should though | 15:11 |
| TheMuso | desrt: In Orca. | 15:15 |
| ogra_ | seb128, do you want a meeting today ? (i havent much to report and ubuntu touch simply has taken over the world) | 16:00 |
| ogra_ | (see the #ubuntu-phone channel if you havent yet, its like #ubuntu years ago) | 16:00 |
| seb128 | ogra_, can do a quick round | 16:01 |
| ogra_ | k | 16:01 |
| rickspencer3 | stgraber, hey, my webcam didn't start for my hangouts this morning | 16:02 |
| rickspencer3 | is there some way I can check if this is due to the user session upstart as opposed to the hideous ball of binary goo we call the google plugin? | 16:03 |
| stgraber | rickspencer3: no easy way to check, though I can't think of how the user sessions would affect this. Is it working in other apps (luvcview being the lightest tool I know of to test webcams)? | 16:06 |
| tintou | hello all ! | 16:18 |
| tintou | I'm trying to use Ubuntu Online Accounts in my App, but I'm missing something, can somebody help me ? | 16:19 |
| rickspencer3 | hi tintou, unfortunately the desktop team is huddled together in a conference room today | 16:28 |
| rickspencer3 | so, I think it may be slow for you to get an answer :) | 16:28 |
| tintou | rickspencer3: okay, thanks for your response, I'll try to ask another day then :D | 16:28 |
| mpt | mterry, did you have time to look at the partial upgrade problem? | 16:58 |
| mterry | mpt, no | 16:59 |
| mterry | mpt, it's on my TODO | 17:00 |
| mpt | k | 17:01 |
| === chrisccoulson is now known as rmadison | ||
| === rmadison is now known as chrisccoulson | ||
| === francisco is now known as Guest16789 | ||
| === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan | ||
| === rickspencer3_ is now known as rickspencer3 | ||
| === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away | ||
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!