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paul_is UBANTU going to be ported to the CDMA gnex toro?03:54
dholbachJoseeAntonioR, did you ping the folks in #canonical-sysadmin about the ticket?06:31
JoseeAntonioRdholbach: yep, they said they're waiting the report from the security guys06:32
dholbachJoseeAntonioR, I think most of them are in American time zones: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+members#active06:33
JoseeAntonioRdholbach: actually, all of them06:34
dholbachdunno if anyone of them works crazy hours06:35
JoseeAntonioRI don't think so, but well06:36
JoseeAntonioRI was wondering if they can just give the approval, as it's written by Wordpress (I don't think there's something that will break machines in there)06:36
dholbachI'm not sure it's that easy - there's a lot of trust-worthy organisations who write code, still they ship code which is vulnerable06:38
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JoseeAntonioRhmm, right, then it'll just be a matter of waiting06:38
dholbachmaybe it's worth pinging them again06:38
JoseeAntonioRwill try right now, let's just hope for the best06:39
dholbach*cross fingers*06:39
JoseeAntonioRdholbach: we did get a quick sanity check!06:41
JoseeAntonioRjust checked the ticket06:41
vikewoodshello everyone , has anyone tried to install ubuntu os on galaxy s 2 ?09:41
GuidoPallemans#ubuntu-phone09:58
vikewoodsthx )10:13
cha0stein1066i have a comment very important as a full ubuntu  user and developer .WHY ARE YOU MAKING UBUNTU LESS CONTROLLED BY THE END USER ? and what about the security monitoring on PERSONAL INFORMATION10:48
aaaaaaa.10:58
NikezWill the sources be available today?11:33
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dank101Hey12:19
fasfasfhi12:53
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guest_____is source available for ubuntu touch?13:55
dank101guest_____, in 1 hour it will14:03
dank101shut up and wait14:03
nikisawhat if my phone doesn't support cyanogen mod14:27
nikisacan it run UBUNTU OS?14:27
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JanHello :D14:30
M40I hope to see a version of Ubuntu Touch for Samsung S I9100 :)14:31
FaDevHI there14:31
Darkeyhey everyone14:31
riccardo96hello everyone!14:34
riccardo96Hey, Are there anyone?14:35
aartistriccardo96: hi14:35
bradleydyes14:37
lukwyes14:39
Euroyes14:39
radukhi pps14:39
bradleyd_hello raduk14:40
radukwhat time does it start? 150014:40
Euroyes, UTC14:40
_polto_hi14:40
radukok thanks14:40
Captain_yuppers14:40
SaufiwahabGreeting.. im from malaysia =)14:40
Captain_where did fluffy hair guy go?14:41
_polto_I would like to test ubuntu-phone on my Samsung Galaxy Note 1, then will it be possible to compile Ubuntu-phone from sources as the Free Software promise ? ;)14:41
nikisahey guys, my phone doesnt support cyanogen mod, can i build UBUNTU OS based on a stock or a custom roms avvailble for my phone?14:42
nikisais it possible?14:42
Captain_QUESTION: What devices do you currently support?14:42
oudaigod how much ubuntu made the world bitter place14:43
Captain_... I have a feeling this is the wrong channel...14:43
hrwCaptain_: it is listed on page already. Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 4/7/1014:44
bradleyd_15 more minutes14:44
Captain_thanks hrw14:44
nikisawaiting for hangout >_<14:44
wladekWill dual boot will be available when I install Ubuntu OS? To boot android and ubuntu? sorry, if question was already answered.14:45
nikisa9 minutes to go14:50
tondinyes!14:50
mibofrahi :)14:50
hcbthi all14:50
ali1234is this the right channel to ask questions, when it starts?14:50
hcbtali1234: yes14:50
mibofrastrange thing:Service Temporarily Unavailable14:50
mibofraon ubuntuonair.com14:50
fabiuxyeah14:50
hcbtstrange, works for me14:51
DettymacI see you14:53
mcracwhats up?14:53
nikisa5 minutes :P14:54
mibofraok now it's ok :))14:54
hcbtanyone using touch preview?14:55
aartistI see(k) you.14:55
Pulkitwhat are the minimum requirements to run ubuntu on phone?14:55
nikisa@Pulkit 1 gig cortex a9 , 512 ram, multi touch is minimum14:56
aartistWhich type of phone, you can run ubuntu on ?14:57
_polto_then will it be possible to compile Ubuntu-phone from sources as the Free Software promise ? ;) I have not seen any announce about the sources availability.14:58
dholbachubuntuonair.com is updated, some of you might have to reload if the video does not say "Ubuntu Touch something"14:58
Tuxkalleaartist images for the nexus devices now14:58
yonathanielwheres the stream?14:58
hcbtaartist: galaxy nexus and nexus 4 for now14:58
GuidoPallemanshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=MOvGullZwcw14:58
dholbachstarts in 2m14:58
yonathanielach14:58
nikisahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=MOvGullZwcw14:59
yonathanielseems a lot of key Ubuntu devs are native English speakers14:59
hcbtthis will be interesting14:59
DettymacUbuntu TV was Announced over a year ago,  are there any TV's out yet?14:59
nikisa1014:59
nikisa914:59
nikisa814:59
nikisa714:59
nikisa614:59
nikisa514:59
nikisa414:59
nikisa214:59
starkssup14:59
nikisa114:59
nikisa`14:59
yonathanielUbuntu TV didn't quite break15:00
yonathanielthrough I mean15:00
hcbtand15:00
hcbtnothing15:00
Namidairoyou know they dont have to start on the dot right15:00
Namidairo:)15:00
mibofrathe 15:00 UTC :))15:00
nikisa:D15:00
nikisayayy!!15:00
cordenis anybody doing build for Galaxy S2?15:00
misteriojust wait, guys15:00
_hamzux_:)15:00
Eurohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOvGullZwcw&feature=plcp15:01
hcbtcorden: we need source code first15:01
Euroyouube livestream15:01
ctharamHas it started?15:01
Namidairocorden: I saw someone port it to d2vzw earlier15:01
Eurono15:01
Namidairohcbt: we already have source15:01
nikisacan UBuntu os run on phone which doesn't support cyanogen?15:01
hcbtNamidairo: and where it is?15:01
cordenthanks for the reply guys.15:01
starksd2vzw reporting in15:01
dholbachhere we go!15:01
Namidairophablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb15:01
Eurostarted15:01
nikisait is live15:01
nikisa(Y)15:02
starkswww.youtube.com/watch?v=MOvGullZwcw15:02
roadkill_yee live15:02
hcbtfinnaly15:02
smartboyhwYAY15:02
roadkill_im wait soo long for this15:02
Pulkitwill ubuntu on phone use debian packages ?15:02
dank101STARTING15:02
cordenby the way what's the channel for ubuntu touch apps development? just want to ask what's the recommended language to use.... qml + javascript or c++15:02
dank101Holy god so many people15:04
usererror_:-)15:04
Namidairotell ricardo to get in the channel15:04
shane__why are we here now?15:04
smartboyhwshane__: Ubuntu porting On Air session15:04
Eurocorden: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps/DevelopmentGuide15:04
yonathanielits live unless you noticed15:04
yonathanielI had to refresh15:04
Pulkitwill ubuntu on phone use debian packages or there would be some alteration?15:04
shane__smartboyhw: what is that?15:04
cordenthanks Euro15:05
hcbtsmartboyhw: omg, it's you mate15:05
smartboyhwhcbt, who are you?15:05
aartistI see only 2 guys.15:05
hcbtsmartboyhw: Humans Can't Be Trusted, remembar?15:06
smartboyhwhcbt, ah lol15:06
starkslol15:06
smartboyhwWT?15:06
Eurohoho15:06
dank101LOL derp15:06
benkaiseroh noes15:06
NamidairoHERP15:06
smartboyhwAh it went back:P15:06
netcurlinot again those hangout problems15:06
dholbachif you have questions, please prefix them with QUESTION:15:06
bobby_when would ubuntu for phones be launched??15:07
dank101IT HAS YOU NOOB15:07
manubaoctober wasn't it?15:07
Namidairobobby_: october eta15:07
nikisalol at that question :D15:07
shane__smartboyhw: http://s1164.beta.photobucket.com/user/shanerbaner82/media/ubuntuerror.png.html15:07
vahidlaziohi15:07
smartboyhwshane__: I think you need to wait.15:07
shane__ok15:07
smartboyhwQUESTION: Why is the code download so slow?15:08
smartboyhwLOL15:08
aartistwhat's going on in video?15:08
silent_warriorshut up and take the questions :)15:08
Namidairogeneral backround15:08
Namidairo*backgroun15:08
yonathanielthese guys are not native English speakers but I would have thought they are15:08
dank101hey15:08
dank101back XD15:08
yonathanielfrom how they talk15:08
ogra_yonathaniel, canonical employees come from all over the world15:08
dank101Yeah15:09
PulkitQUESTION: is ubunutu on phone going to use debian packages or something else?15:09
ogra_yonathaniel, we all work from home15:09
shane__smartboyhw: ok, waiting15:09
ogra_Pulkit, it already uses debian packages :)15:09
yonathanielogra_: Yeah but because they speak English so well I thought they are native15:09
popeyyonathaniel: they are also both very nice people, just like everyone else who works for Canonical ;)15:09
starkstouch is so slow and clunky15:09
dank101I love it!15:09
ptlhas the hangout started?15:10
silent_warriorwroooooonggg15:10
manubayes15:10
dank101YES15:10
smartboyhwptl, yeah15:10
shane__where is the hangout? got a linkl?15:10
dank101http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=MOvGullZwcw#!15:10
manuba..15:10
starksi've never felt so bad putting a demo on the galaxy s315:10
dank101ya newb15:10
ptlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOvGullZwcw15:10
smartboyhwshane__: ubuntuonair.com15:10
naguyep its really nice to keep ubuntu in tablets and phone..15:10
nagui totally like docking :)15:10
nikisait is a revolution.15:11
dank1013 ports before the port-a-thon began15:11
starkswe need mobile data, cdma, and general settings menus15:11
dank101Use caps for requests15:11
yonathanielBut you don't get normal Ubuntu applications in Ubuntu touch?15:11
ogra_yonathaniel, nope, its all OML15:11
ogra_QML15:11
benkaiserIf it had mobile data and wifi hotspot it would become my daily driver (my phone IS my Internet connection)15:11
dank101*QML15:11
ogra_and HTML515:11
yonathanielwhoa15:12
ogra_theer will be the dock mode so that your tabelt/phone can run a fulkl desktop when docked15:12
freechBad idea : Put your bright windows behind you :-)15:12
blu422got a non-youtube link? im on restricted network access and they dont allow youtube15:12
yonathanielogra_: that would be cool15:12
dank101Sorry but no15:12
ogra_tahts the plan :)15:12
ptl<- Claudio Sampaio on the hangout, just asked a question15:13
nagui cant update my qt to alpha :( any help ??15:13
Euroblu422:  http://ubuntuonair.com/15:13
starksnone of the guys are listening to the chan are they?15:13
smartboyhwdholbach, it is really slow15:13
starksa repo sync took 5 hours our something15:13
pathttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2159832 - galaxy nexus cdma15:13
smartboyhw10 times slower than Android code:P15:14
nikisaQUESTION: can Ubuntu OS be ported to a device which doesn't support Cyanogen Mod yet , or i have interpreted this thing wrong O.o ??15:14
ogra_smartboyhw, download of the images or of the code ?15:14
smartboyhwogra_, code15:14
smartboyhwNot images15:14
ogra_aha15:14
blu422Euro: thats blocked as well ugh.15:14
starksyay rsalveti is here15:14
rsalveti\o/15:14
starksdid you sleep well?15:14
Euroif they block all youtube stuff you cant watch it blu42215:15
benkaiserQUESTION: is this the porting hangout? or a Q&A?15:15
dank101porting15:15
Cyanogen101Hi guys15:15
dank101hi15:15
smartboyhwbenkaiser, both I think15:15
Cyanogen101'planning on building for Samsung S 215:15
blu422Euro: thanks anyways15:15
smartboyhwCyanogen101, :)15:15
_hamzux_Question: do you have plans to support low-price devices (i.e. acer b1-a71 etc)?15:15
ogra_Cyanogen101, ++ i have a spare one here waiting for a port :)15:16
dholbachfeel free to ask all your questions, please prefix with QUESTION: though15:16
Cyanogen101here is a link to my thread15:16
Cyanogen101http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38331504&posted=1#post3833150415:16
Namidairough15:16
Cyanogen101Basically i just do everything on This page? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting15:16
_hamzux_Question: is is technically possible to have a dual-boot on a tablet?15:16
naguQuestion :: I cant update my qt to alpha.. any help???15:17
smartboyhwCyanogen101, basically yes15:17
Ajay_Hi Every one....15:17
Namidairohe said maguro.15:17
Cyanogen101my DVD drive is fucked up how can i install ubuntu? im using a WUBI version?15:17
ogra_Cyanogen101, or a VM15:17
smartboyhwCyanogen101, use USBs15:17
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ogra_or USB yeah15:18
ali1234QUESTION: What is breakfast?15:18
Ajay_I have a question,  which device(tablet) support ubuntu ?? how may I know which may support or which not??15:18
ogra_ali1234, a meal, usually in the morning :)15:18
UrsinhaAjay_, it's in the wiki page15:18
Ursinhalol15:18
Cyanogen101ok15:18
Namidairoali1234: see the cm wiki aboot that15:18
naguOrga.. I cant update qt to alpha.. any help or workaround??15:18
derpQUESTION: When is the sources being released? :)15:18
Cyanogen101imma start building (fingers crossed)15:19
ogra_ali1234, not to be mixed up with brunch which happens 30min after breakfast15:19
Namidairoderp: yesterday15:19
Cyanogen101ill be back15:19
Ursinhaderp, they are already there, since yesterday :)15:19
dank101nuuu15:19
derpThose aren't the full sources.. Or are they? :)15:19
NamidairoNOOO15:19
Euroman15:19
ogra_whopps, the hangout broke15:19
dank101DANMIT15:19
Euroblackout15:19
smartboyhwdholbach, is there is problem with the Hangouts today!!?!?!?!15:19
Taladond=/15:19
nikisaback again15:19
dank101YAY15:19
Namidairoyou broke it starks15:19
hcbtsmartboyhw: it uses youtube now so...15:20
behmannha, perhaps Hangout should be running on AWS :P15:20
starksQUESTION: how many ports have you guys spotted? i see d2vzw, toroplus, and gnote 215:20
smartboyhwhcbt, yeah15:20
ogra_daily images will come early next week15:20
starksdaily isn't daily?15:20
Namidairotldr: magic.15:20
ogra_starks, ?15:20
DettymacQuestion: Any JAMS or events in Washington DC that Canonical will be attending/hosting15:21
starksogra_, ports ahead of the porting guide15:21
derpnightlies :D15:21
ogra_starks, i was referring to the arches we already support15:21
ogra_starks, currently there is only the release yet, we will start püroviding daily builds nbext week15:21
ogra_starks, not sure what the plan is for additional arches15:22
ptlgraphical applications which do not use the canonical API for mobile simply won't work?15:22
ogra_right15:22
ogra_they will work later once the desktop dock mode is there15:22
ptlok15:22
ptlhas anyone ported a terminal emulator for it?15:23
ogra_(in docked state then indeed)15:23
ogra_i saw some in the works on G+15:23
ptlk...15:23
starksogra_, arches and platforms are different. if i want an x86 ubuntu touch, that would be a razr i issue15:23
starksplatforms are non-nexus phones already running touch15:23
ptland it won't use X at all? I see that it is using Android's graphical system, at least I think it is15:23
ogra_starks, in my statement read arches as ports :)15:23
TassadarQUESTION: do you accept patches also to CM base system, specifically to grouper's kernel?15:24
starksthen again, razr anything won't run ubunt lol15:24
starksdamn motorola15:24
ogra_starks, armhf would be an arch ... armhf+nexus7 would be a subarch (or in your terms a port)15:24
starksarmhf+d2vzw works great15:24
ogra_good to hear15:24
starkswhen it works15:24
starksswiping is frustrating15:25
andreipotmaybe if the new motorola x would be the next Nexus15:25
starksmotorola needs to prove they are serious about not using encrypted bootloaders15:25
wladekQUESTION: will be support for HP touchpad?15:25
Namidairotenderloin?15:26
silent_warriorQuestion:Is it posssible to use the tablet UI on the desktop15:26
vrubiumquestion: what is the display manager running on ubuntu touch? x, wayland custom?15:26
starksbreakfeast, lunch, and dinner. rent is too damn high15:26
mibofraso, bye people :))15:26
Namidairo10.1 is coming to tenderloin soonish, and should be portable15:26
keyheywhen can we see the preview on the SGH-I727 Skyrocket ?15:26
FreeDesirewill older devices like nexus one and htc desire be supported as they run unoffical builds on cm10 already15:26
fanys+vrubium : SurfaceFlinger is the DM on Ubuntu Touch15:27
Namidairoarm6 nein15:27
Namidairoccache15:27
ptlFreeDesire: judging from the hardware requirements I would say they would run it 'barely' if it is ported at all15:27
ogra_FreeDesire, as long as it matches the HW specs15:27
starksquestion: there was some secrecy regarding the touch display manager/server, everyone assumed a wayland fork, what happened?15:28
starksi missed vrubium's q lol15:28
repollohi everyone15:28
mibofraI thought the live was finished :D15:28
ptlstarks's question is great, curious also15:28
hcbtQUESTION: so what kernel touch preview uses? linux or android?15:28
ogra_android15:29
starksptl, i suspect unity display server :P15:29
ogra_hcbt, the whole low level is android15:29
ptlhcbt: I can show you some unames15:29
ptlroot@nexus4:~# uname -a15:29
ptlLinux nexus4 3.4.0-perf-g85f2fed #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Feb 21 04:34:41 UTC 2013 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux15:29
starkshcbt, linux is linux15:29
smartboyhwhcbt, of course linux + CM-ed Android15:29
Namidairohcbt: but those are both technically linux kernels...15:29
ogra_(kernel, hardware acces layer)15:29
hcbtbut uper level?15:29
starkswhatever kernel your device can use15:29
ogra_hcbt, ubuntu15:29
ptl[12:29] [3647] [patola@nexus7 patola]% uname -a15:29
ptlLinux nexus7 3.1.10-g756380d #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Feb 21 04:54:00 UTC 2013 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux15:29
smartboyhwNamidairo, technically Android isn't a kernel15:29
smartboyhwLinux is one15:29
hcbtso it's logicaly ubuntu on android kernel15:30
fanysQ: will be possible to flash GAPS(Play Store for example) to Ubuntu Touch?15:30
TramvaiWhat is the MAIN advatage of Ubuntu Phone over other devices (iOS/Android)?15:30
makaveli35How many are you in devlopping UBUNTU ?15:30
ogra_hcbt, its a minimal android running a container in which an ubuntu runs15:30
vrubiumQUESTION: what is the display server running on ubuntu touch? x, wayland custom?15:30
smartboyhwmakaveli35, is that a question to the guys in the Hangout or?15:30
ogra_vrubium, currently surfaceflinger15:30
Namidairowhen they say kernel i think android/system/kernel/asus/grouper15:30
naguQuestion : how can install ubuntu on nexus with dual boot support??15:30
fanysi said it vrubium :)15:30
makaveli35Yes15:30
ogra_vrubium, that will likely change over time15:31
Sid_PaytonQUESTION: What did David Planella refer to when he posted that we could accpect some new surprise awesomeness in this HangOut? ;-) I'm intruiged15:31
keyheywhen can we see the os for other android phones ? like the S2 and S315:31
ogra_keyhey, once someone proted it15:31
AturikTramvai, the biggest Advantage is the perfect multitasking and the great Design :)15:31
vrubiumfanys: sorry, missed the answer15:31
Namidairoa new challenger has appeared15:31
starkskeyhey, which s3?15:31
Namidairoor at least another hangout participant15:31
andreipotthe s3 has been ported15:31
Sid_Payton@keyhey S3 is allready done. just check omgubuntu15:31
Tramvai:)15:32
jochenhQUESTION: When a emulator for ubuntu desktop will be available?15:32
shane__smartboyhw: are you there?15:32
Namidairod2vzw is done afaik15:32
smartboyhwshane__: Hey yas15:32
keyhey<Sid_Payton> i have the skyrocket s2 though15:32
starkshahahaha that's my phone on omg15:32
shane__so, i waited and the device powered off and rebooted through google screen and is now a black screen for about 10 minutes....15:32
yonathanielI have an Asus Transformer15:33
cyanogen101Ok, stuck15:33
shane__smartboyhw: so, i waited and the device powered off and rebooted through google screen and is now a black screen for about 10 minutes....15:33
ptlQuestion: What high-level APIs work under surfaceflinger now? QT, GTK+, EFL, modified versions of them?15:33
cyanogen101Stuck15:33
ptl*over surfaceflinger15:33
smartboyhwshane__, whoa!?15:33
cyanogen101phablet-dev-bootstrap -v [device codena  mes] [target_directory]15:33
shane__smartboyhw: any ideas?15:33
benkaiserOMG Note 1!!!! Awesome!15:33
Namidairolol the tf10115:33
smartboyhwcyanogen101, you have to edit the phablet-dev-bootstrap -v I think15:33
_hamzux_Question: to submit apps to Ubuntu Touch are you going to keep PPAs + Ubuntu Software Center or have another  "market" concept?15:33
Sid_Payton<keyhey> than you would have to wait a bit more or try it yourself with the new manual Canonical released today15:33
cyanogen101Help with "phablet-dev-bootstrap -v [device codena  mes] [target_directory]" what i put in for samsung s 2?15:33
shane__smartboyhw: i can flash custom rom and try again?15:33
benkaiserAnd the tf101! those are my two devices15:34
Ursinhayay, my tablet :D15:34
keyheyif i knew more about porting id get it for the s2 but idk anything about port15:34
* ogra_ hugs Ursinha 15:34
konradmbQuestion: Any ARMv6 support plans?15:34
ogra_konradmb, no15:34
UrsinhaI even made my first contribution to the project ^^ :)15:34
ogra_konradmb, ubuntu itself has no support for v6 anymore15:34
Namidairorsalveti: the tf101 cm-10.1 stuff is still in gerrit atm15:34
smartboyhwshane__, try to use a official ROM15:34
* Ursinha hugs ogra_ back 15:34
ogra_:)15:34
AlanBellQUESTION: why did you pick about the only tablets and phones in the world that can't be purchased on Amazon with an affiliate link through the shopping lens?15:34
yonathanielcontributing seems like a pain in the butt15:34
ali1234AlanBell: because they don't need exploits to unlock them15:35
smartboyhwAlanBell, :)15:35
Ursinhayonathaniel, it's not :) I contributed already15:35
patQUESTION: what would it take to get the cdma radio working for toroplus?15:35
shane__smartboyhw: the problem is the official is 4.2.2 which has some security issue and cannot adb communicate on 4.2.2, cant find a 4.2.0 image anywhere15:35
smartboyhwshane__, uh.....15:35
JoseeAntonioRThat's wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting15:36
ogra_shane__, make sure to have the very latest fastboot binary15:36
keyheywheres the link for the stuff to get the os on the s3 ?15:36
Ursinhahttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting15:36
zandgreenQuestion: will it be possible to apply alternative components, like a window manager?15:36
ogra_shane__, the one in the ubuntu archive definitely works with 4.2.215:36
ogra_(the latest one)15:36
mentosQUESTION: how is battery life with the nexus phone and in general?15:36
shane__ogra_: but my desktop cant communicate with adb15:37
shane__on 4.2.215:37
Namidairolol15:37
Namidairothe tf101 is still in the porting guide15:38
ptlAlanBell: what are you referring to? I bought my Nexus7 this way15:38
TramvaiWat15:38
keyheyis anyone working on a port for the galaxy s2 ? any version15:38
Namidairolol15:38
Namidairothis hangout, so reliable15:39
starksoh well15:39
yonathanielkeyhey: he just showed the s2 running ubuntu touch15:39
onlychevys1I'm working on gs2 tmobile15:39
rsalvetigoogle technology15:39
benkaiserhmmm contemplating trying to port it for the N7000 -  Galaxy Note 115:39
rsalvetikeeps crashing15:39
yonathanielkeyhey: or not, I remember wrong :15:39
starksthey skipped the display server questions15:40
starkswtf15:40
zlx_I feel like everyone looking for ports should head over to XNA15:40
starkswhy so secret?15:40
efouladiI'm working on samsung galaxy s i9000 port15:40
tilal6991I've got a Xperia T up and running15:40
Ursinhaefouladi, I love you for that :)15:40
fuss132sources download sooo slow :D15:40
pad4651will davlik eventually be included?15:40
roadkill_i cant wait for s215:40
tilal6991And I know of a G300 port which is up15:40
Ursinhaefouladi, but the hardware is a bit old to run it, isn't it?15:40
starksrsalveti, are you guys hiding something?15:40
Namidairoit took all of 2 minutes to get the thing to build for the tf20115:40
keyheyive got it working on my nexus 7 and 10 but ive got a samsung phone ha15:41
efouladiI guess so but I'll try :)15:41
JohnywalkerQuestion: will there be ST-ericsson novathur series support?15:41
Sid_Payton<starks> it's SurfaceFlinger15:41
tilal6991Johnywalker: If there is CM10.1 for it then yes15:41
tilal6991From what I know there isn't yet so not yet15:41
AlanBellptl: isn't it just people reselling grey imports for more than the retail price on the play store?15:41
Johnywalkeri hope because Sony is not giving any JB for XperiaSola15:42
jobless[Q] what resolutions are supported, as in mdpi, hdpi etc, assuming the device has cm10.115:42
Namidairojobless: take a look at the porting guide15:42
Johnywalkernot yet it is in beta the xda guys in the xperia sola section are working on i15:42
Johnywalker*it15:43
tilal6991jobless: XHDPI15:43
tilal6991HDPI is pretty easy as well415:43
Haiquestion: what about phones with the required hardware specs but the phone dosent have android 4.2? no official15:43
tilal6991Hai: If it has CM-10.1 it can be done15:43
RevdjenkI have a  Lenovo a2109 which is tegra 3, 1gb ram.  I would be interested in trying Ubuntu touch. Yesterday's post of all the process to enable it gives me more bravery to try it.15:44
ptlAlanBell: might be, how could I know? I bought the 16 GB Nexus 7 for US$ 23415:44
shane__ogra_: im having issues with getting my nexus 10 over to touch ubuntu, i installed ubuntu on a vm and unlocked my device with ubuntu desktop and rooted and everything adb commands are working with the device.  when running the command phablet-flash -b it dled all files and rebooted device, it passed the google screen but hung at a black screen for about 10 minutes now, any ideas?15:44
JohnywalkerUbuntu Development Question: will there be any lite version of ubuntu for 1 core phone?15:44
Namidairosuggest you field support questions to #ubuntu-phone15:45
tilal6991Johnywalker: you don't need one15:45
grizmaweIs there an API for services and backgrounding?15:45
tilal6991This one works15:45
keyheywhen does anyone think a port will be out for the skyrocket ?15:45
Johnywalkerwhy?15:45
zlx_exit15:45
Namidairothe cake is a lie15:45
tilal6991Johnywalker: Well the G300 has a port which runs well so...15:45
Haiquestion: only unofficial cm 10.1 with big bugs the phone is the atrix 4G...15:45
tilal6991Huawei G30015:45
Johnywalkero nice then15:45
Ursinhaif you want them to read your questions, use QUESTION: to index it, capital letters :)15:45
onlychevys1when I get port done for hercules, I will build for skyrocket also.15:45
ptlQUESTION: What high-level APIs work under surfaceflinger now? QT, GTK+, EFL, modified versions of them?15:46
Namidairobcmdhd is fickle15:46
Samik[Q] like you sayed you were able make port for P311x, is the microphone working? many roms have problem with that. Will it be problem to make whole "phone" stuff working on P3100?15:46
Cyanogen101Stuck with phablet-dev-bootstrap -v i9100 ~15:46
keyhey<onlychevys1> how long does it take to make the ports or roms ?15:46
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ali1234Cyanogen101: DO NOT BOOTSTRAP IN ~15:46
Guest5389hi15:47
Cyanogen101anyone?15:47
JohnywalkerQuestion: any mali-400 full support?15:47
Cyanogen101no bootstrap?15:47
Luis___Can you provide a topdown description of the sw components of touch and what parts of android are still needed?15:47
Guest5389can it be portes to armv6 devices15:47
ali1234Cyanogen101: it will poop all over your homedir15:47
ptlmali-400?15:47
Cyanogen101ok15:47
tilal6991Guest5389: Unlikly15:47
Cyanogen101then how i do it?15:47
ptlit's used in a bunch of Linux ARM devices15:47
keyheyQUESTION when can we see the actual preview for other android phones ?15:47
onlychevys1still downloading source code, then should go smooth I hope lol15:47
tilal6991The Ubuntu side is compiled in ARMV715:47
UrsinhaSamik, microphone seems to be working, I haven't tested it through, but the problem is with the network, at least the latest CM 10.1 kernel for it it doesn't work15:47
antdking__we have a team preparing for armv6 support15:47
Cyanogen101How to do it then?15:47
ali1234Cyanogen101: beats me, i was hoping they'd explain it. porting guide doesn't work for me15:48
tilal6991QUESTION; What's left to get mobile data working15:48
Lagos_QUESTION: How many of the new tablet features do you think will make it back into Ubuntu Desktop?15:48
UrsinhaCyanogen101, let's move to #ubuntu-phone15:48
lepetitclementhello all15:48
Cyanogen101ok15:48
gh1234Cyanogen101: Apply this patch: http://bit.ly/XpQghS (link below the comand in doc)15:48
Ursinhathat's my patch :D15:49
gh1234Well it works :) thanks!15:49
lepetitclementAre there any news on x86 devices? I have the Razr I and I would love to put Ubuntu Phone OS on it15:49
starksarmv6 got scroogled15:50
tilal6991Yep15:50
Namidairohardfloat says hi15:50
starksNamidairo, why was armel dropped so quickly a few weeks ago15:51
SamikUrsinha, thank you15:52
Namidairohow should i know15:52
UrsinhaSamik, no problem :)15:52
Namidairoprobs because they're old15:52
starkscyanogenmod works fine with cdma+lte15:54
nikisaQUESTION : do you believe , ubuntu is going to be an Android rather mobile OS replacement in near future?15:54
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roadkill_any port on s2 ??15:54
AturikI would really like to port Ubuntu Touch, but what could happen if I do something wrong.. Can I brick my Phone?15:56
starksquestion: any chance of baremetal ubuntu on phones and tablets? i'd like to run x11 and test freedreno drivers15:56
NamidairoAturik: for most devices you should be able to flash stock images back on and it should just work15:57
JohnywalkerQUESTION:what about Tegra 4 what do you think?15:57
Namidairohdpi, xdpi etc.15:57
Cyanogen101to fucking hard16:01
Cyanogen101ment to be easy16:01
Namidairo?16:01
starksoh well16:01
keyheyQUESTION how do you port ?16:01
Cyanogen101to port it16:01
ThrashingDudethanks for all people involved =) this hangout was helpful. will look into the code in the next days.16:01
rsalvetihttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting16:01
ogra_TANKS GUYS !!!16:01
Cyanogen101if u have to ask HOW to port it u arent smart enough too16:01
rsalveti\o/16:01
jochenhThanks!16:01
ogra_(and ships and cars ... )16:01
dholbachand make sure you follow http://youtube.com/ubuntuonair16:02
nikisa(Y)16:02
ogra_(silly typo)16:02
Namidairoseemed easy to port for me16:02
AturikGreat Canonical Team!16:02
* dholbach hugs you all16:02
JoseeAntonioRsubscribe to us on youtube.com/UbuntuOnAir16:02
dholbachyou'Re all awesome16:02
JoseeAntonioRtwitter @ubuntunoair16:02
smartboyhwdholbach, LOL16:02
nikisa\O/16:02
JoseeAntonioRoops, @ubuntuonair16:02
smartboyhw\o/16:02
dholbachhttps://twitter.com/ubuntuonair16:02
konradmbThanks, this is good knowledge source!16:02
joblessgreat work guys,16:02
roadkill_Thanks guys for this work16:02
rigvedthanksfor all this awesome work!16:03
keyheyexcited to see this on the s216:04
keyheyany one have a port for the s2 ?16:07
starkskeyhey, soon enough. which one though?16:07
keyheythe skyrocket16:07
keyheyive got the preview on my nexus 7 and 10 but i dont own a nexus phone16:08
roadkill_please port on s2 international16:09
keyhey<starks> do you know of anyone working on the port ?16:11
starkskeyhey, nope. try xda or finding an s2 channel16:13
keyheyi will im working on building a no root nexus 4 rom on the s216:14
keyheylet me correct that its for only the I727/I727r16:18
starkskeyhey, porting is really drop dead easy once you get past the 16gb pull that takes hours16:19
starkshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting16:20
keyhey<starks> working with this nexus rom is the first ive done and i should be done with it by end of day fully working and you can root it too but its for the s2 I727/r16:21
keyheyand i only started this cause when i installed CM 10.1 it would freeze when i used my cable to laptop16:23
fairuz__So Ubuntu Touch is basically Android minimal + Ubuntu filesystem. Correct?16:24
JoseeAntonioRGuys, we're not live right now16:26
Galaxy-SLHI ALL16:45
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JoseeAntonioRhey, Galaxy-SL, we're not live right now16:47
Galaxy-SLquti16:48
nytelifesup16:58
silviu0zobI will be able to install ubuntu on my android phone(replacing it), or I must buy a new device that has it pre-installed?17:02
switchbladei'm so stoked about ubuntu right now17:07
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turffyQ: correct me if Im wrong only 4 phone right now can you install ubuntu mobile?17:45
JoseeAntonioRturffy: we're not live right now17:46
turffyoh sorry17:47
grizmaweturffy, if you join #ubuntu-phone channel this is where most of the converstion is going on17:55
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ColMustardWill Ubuntu Touch support standard packages?18:52
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Guest64002Can we have a terminal commands database built in? A little app to search by context and click to add to the  clipboard...19:56
bslbryanSome folks at XDA modified one line of code to get the TDP flashing on Toro and ToroPlus Galaxy Nexuses.  I've been trying to get CDMA to work.  The porting guide tells me to extract CM10 files and push them to Ubuntu.  I did that with radio, but it did not work.  Any nudges in the right direction?20:00
JoseeAntonioRexample: QUESTION: What's Ubuntu?20:01
bslbryanMy goodness.  Ubuntu isn't even on air, I'm asking the people in the room.20:02
bslbryanQUESTION: Some folks at XDA modified one line of code to get the TDP flashing on Toro and ToroPlus Galaxy Nexuses.  I've been trying to get CDMA to work.  The porting guide tells me to extract CM10 files and push them to Ubuntu.  I did that with radio, but it did not work.  Any nudges in the right direction?20:02
JoseeAntonioRThat's loco.ubuntu.com20:04
JoseeAntonioRbslbryan: there's another session on-air :)20:04
mhall119http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/globaljam/20:04
mhall119you can find teams here: http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/20:05
bslbryanJoseeAntonioR: Ha, thanks.20:06
maiatodayQUESTION: where can I find an svg image for raring to make posters/flyers?20:07
JoseeAntonioRmaiatoday: we'll get that answered in a minute :)20:11
AkhterI INSTALLED IN NEXUS 4, i love it quite mature and simple enough but so slow and incomplete?20:11
maiatodaythanks20:11
mhall119Akhter: it's a very early release20:11
Akhteryes i know but too much things are incomplete20:12
airurandoQUESTION: where can one find resources on how to test.20:12
Akhterhow much time we should expect for almost working20:12
bslbryanAkhter: 13.10 or as long as the community itself takes.20:13
Akhterhmm every body is waitng for things like this but i must say this is real revolution in mobile os world20:14
bslbryanAkhter: Yes, it is wonderful.  Even with 15% functionality if I could get CDMA radio working on my ToroPlus I would use it as my daily driver.20:15
Akhterok20:15
bslbryanPajamas, concerts, and Ubuntu.  Wish I lived in Vancouver.20:15
Guest64002Question: Can we have a terminal commands database built in? A little app to search by context and click to add to the  clipboard...20:16
JoseeAntonioRspreadubuntu.org20:16
Akhterbut immediately i missed some important things, 1, important contact, 2, lock screen, 3, battery drain,20:16
JoseeAntonioRGuest20019: we're on the global jams hangout right now :)20:16
Akhterbut immediately i missed some important things, 1, important contact, 2, lock screen, 3, battery drain,20:18
Akhteri think after these we can use phone for approx normal purpose20:19
JoseeAntonioRAkhter: could you please move this discussion to #ubuntu-phone? This is off-topic right now20:19
Akhteri think i am taking about ubuntu phone20:21
JoseeAntonioRAkhter: yes, but the current hangout is about Ubuntu Global Jams, that's why I'm asking to move to #ubuntu-phone, there are lots more people to discuss about that in there20:21
Akhterno body is there20:22
JoseeAntonioRAkhter: yes, do "/j #ubuntu-phone" without the "20:23
toddc_+120:27
ubuntu-tt+120:27
maiatoday+120:27
toddc_Tempe AZ20:27
vojtech_t+120:27
maiatodayCape Town ZA20:28
ubuntu-ttsan fernando trinidad and tobago20:28
redtape-renegade-1 Isle of Man20:28
redtape-renegade-1  Isle of man20:29
redtape-renegade80,00020:29
redtape-renegadeQUESTION: Where do we get stickers for global jam ??20:30
redtape-renegadeQUESTION: What was the type of "JAM" that you showed Jono, last week ?20:31
redtape-renegadeI will ask AlanBell to get some stickers for the UK/Irish populus .. thank-you.20:32
redtape-renegadeGreat, come back Randell,                      well done !!20:34
JoseeAntonioRAny other questions?20:34
redtape-renegadeCan we just recap, for people who are at home who want to join in .. what #channel do we follow on freenode +websites ??20:35
redtape-renegadesoz.. ^QUESTION^20:35
redtape-renegadeJust to say :: I am really excited and stoked about The Ubuntu Global Jam .. Great Job Guys !!!20:37
redtape-renegade#ubunt ??20:38
JoseeAntonioR#ubuntu20:38
redtape-renegade**#ubuntu .... ??20:38
redtape-renegadethanx20:38
airurandoQUESTION: any thoughts on running a jam online (hangout/irc) for a country (team members spread out around the country)?20:40
redtape-renegade+120:40
redtape-renegadeQUESTION :: Where is the Wiki page for the Jam ??20:41
JoseeAntonioRwiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam20:42
redtape-renegadeloco.ubuntu.com ??  .. Oh   ^ +120:42
redtape-renegadegot it..20:42
redtape-renegadeHi Nicolas !!20:43
redtape-renegadeQUESTION:: By "flavours" do you mean Lubuntu etc ??20:48
redtape-renegadeTell Nicolas thank-you .. cheers.20:50
redtape-renegadeQUESTION:: Jose .. Why can't we comment on the yoyutube channels .. or can we ??20:52
zebaszpcommunity in argentina is quite inactive as well...20:53
redtape-renegade**youtube20:53
toddc_we use Big Blue Button for all our events20:53
redtape-renegadeAahh .. interesting...20:53
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redtape-renegademaybe I broke it ..20:54
redtape-renegade... ver interesting .. can I form a conspiracy club about this ??20:54
ubuntu-ttthey dont want us to know haha20:55
redtape-renegadeexactly ..20:55
zebaszpwow, internet connectivity in Peru ain't good, is it JoseeAntonioR?20:55
redtape-renegadeit's cool...20:55
ubuntu-ttQUESTION: Are you guys going todo an ubuntuonair event for the actual global jam?20:55
redtape-renegadeubuntu-tt: No they are not.20:56
redtape-renegade-120:56
redtape-renegadethey may do next year, though...20:56
redtape-renegadeQUESTION .. When will I get my Ubuntu Jetpack ??20:57
balloonsubuntu for washing machines was announced by dholbach last week :-p20:57
ubuntu-tto/20:58
redtape-renegadeOK OK .. well done guys ... excellent Work !!20:58
rrnwexecthank you all :)21:00
zebaszpinternet here in Argentina is quite crappy as well, I have 3Mb down speed21:01
zebaszpI once tried a hangout, and it miserably failed due to laggy connections XD21:02
zebaszpwell, cheers guys, I'll try to join tomorrow, I want to start making my own apps :P21:03
coppollaany developer working on endeavoru version21:07

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