[00:00] <rymate1234> Its for SCRIPTING
[00:00] <eduardosanzb> ok, thanks
[00:00] <rymate1234> NOT ACTUAL FULL BLOWN PROGRAMS
[00:00] <nocoast> RiXtEr,
[00:00] <RobbyF> Anyone remove the sample contacts and messages?
[00:00] <RobbyF> instructions are not working for this guy.
[00:00] <belak> mateor: the install did take my n7 quite a while... ~15 min... though it never completely froze
[00:00] <eduardosanzb> how do i chango to the #ubuntu-tablet channel?
[00:00] <Yugge> RobbyF: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes#Sample_content
[00:00] <mateor> thanks belak...it has been 20 but maybe I will wait
[00:00] <k1l_> eduardosanzb: /join #channelname
[00:00] <dAnjou> hey, is it or will it be possible to do telephony on nexus 7?
[00:00] <nexus7user> AlanBell: looks like I have to restore to Jelly Bean and start over. I'm having trouble with CHDIR and adb isn't finding my device.
[00:00] <RobbyF> doing that. not working for some reason.
[00:00] <AlanBell> rymate1234: it is a language, gnome shell is in javascript and all of gnome will be standardising on javascript
[00:00] <rymate1234> eduardosanzb, /join #ubuntu-tablet
[00:01] <usererror> eduardosanzb: type in "/join #ubuntu-talbet" without the quotes
[00:01] <eduardosanzb> thanks
[00:01] <usererror> ^^
[00:01] <GuidoPallemans> it's not javascript, it's ecmascript
[00:01] <AlanBell> nexus7user: yeah, I will ask them to add something about that to the release notes
[00:01] <jounih> rymate1234: you can use c++ too
[00:01] <dAnjou> rymate1234: you seem to have no idea what you are talking about
[00:01] <rymate1234> ah
[00:01] <Yugge> RobbyF: Removing contacts works instantly, reboot once to get rid of the rest
[00:01] <Yugge> if you actually removed the init scripts
[00:01] <RobbyF> the edit lines' not working for me.
[00:01] <RobbyF> yeah.
[00:01] <rymate1234> dAnjou, I do know that javascript was designed to be used on the internet in websites
[00:01] <nocoast> Is there a way to login
[00:01] <nocoast> as new user
[00:01] <nocoast> through the UI
[00:02] <nocoast> instead of being guest?
[00:02] <rymate1234> it was not designed to be used to make apps for a mobile OS
[00:02] <GuidoPallemans> can anybody try my reddit app on a phone? it's at https://github.com/brambram/UbuntuPhoneRedditApp
[00:02] <Yugge> GuidoPallemans: I'd love to! Hang on
[00:02] <PeterPanen> rymate1234: Javascript is the perfect programming language in my opiniont. I use it for serverside applications aswell with NodeJS
[00:02] <jounih> javascript is just fine for application logic
[00:02] <dAnjou> rymate1234: what if i tell you that an actual browser engine drives those apps?
[00:02] <jounih> if you need more performance then c++
[00:03] <AlanBell> rymate1234: it is a turing complete language, it can do anything ;)
[00:03] <Guest19219> Quick question: I can't call or receive calls on my Galaxy nexus, is it a known bug ? is there a solution ? at least a log file to check ? thanks !
[00:03] <rymate1234> yes, doesn't mean it should be USED for everything
[00:03] <dAnjou> PeterPanen: it's far from being perfect
[00:03] <PiZZaMartijn> rymate1234: Javascript is a great language as long as you don't need to use the HTML DOM
[00:03] <chriadam> really guys?  programming language wars... in 2013?  didn't we put this discussion to bed in the eighties?
[00:03] <rymate1234> dAnjou, then the apps aren't going to have as good preformance as a native c++ app
[00:03] <kostkon> chriadam, 80s? apparently not
[00:04] <dAnjou> rymate1234: so?
[00:04] <PiZZaMartijn> rymate1234: Still better than running apps in a java vm :P
[00:04] <chriadam> rymate1234: you do know that you can compile javascript to native machine code, right?
[00:04] <dAnjou> PiZZaMartijn: what?
[00:04] <AlanBell> rymate1234: the bottom line is that the toolkit for the phablets is QML with javascript. Saying javascript isn't your favourite language does not change anything.
[00:04] <Guest12231> I have a quick question regarding the Ubuntu Tablet OS.
[00:04] <AlanBell> go ahead Guest12231
[00:04] <rymate1234> ok
[00:04] <Guest12231> Will it support locked bootloader devices like RIM's Blackberry Playbook?
[00:05] <mateor> I had a scare there. After 5 mins with no bootloader after failed install...it finally booted into the autodeploy for a second round
[00:05] <chriadam> you don't need to use a runtime interpreter, necessarily.  heck, with some strictness (eg, disallowing eval() or with) you can optimise the heck out of JS code AOT.
[00:05] <rymate1234> Guest12231, probably not
[00:05] <k1l_> Guest12231: no
[00:05] <mattwj2002> hehe
[00:05] <mattwj2002> this is awesome!
[00:05] <AlanBell> Guest12231: no, just the nexus devices for the moment, probably never locked ones
[00:05] <Guest12231> :( I'm really sad now.
[00:05] <Guest12231> Was so excited for this release.
[00:05] <chriadam> I really don't understand why people get so angry or emotional about the language they use.  it's syntax, people.  the tooling around it defines, in large part, whether it flies or crawls.
[00:05] <Evi1john1> anyone see this article http://www.androidmeter.com/ubuntu-touch-preview-running-on-verizon-galaxy-nexus-instructions-downloads-included/
[00:05]  * AlanBell plays a small violin for the playbook of Guest12231 
[00:05] <chriadam> anyway, stop spreading FUD and try using it.  you might be surprised.
[00:06] <nocoast> Yeah
[00:06] <nocoast> if it can run
[00:06] <Guest12231> Thank you, I need that XD
[00:06] <nocoast> on omap4
[00:06] <nocoast> and exynos5
[00:06] <nocoast> and tegra3
[00:06] <nocoast> it will work
[00:06] <jounih> chriadam: QT uses v8 jit thought right
[00:06] <nocoast> on any phone
[00:06] <nocoast> and s4
[00:06] <nocoast> it will work any of those SoCs
[00:06] <mattwj2002> what is wrong Guestst12231?
[00:06] <nocoast> to a varrying degree
[00:06] <nocoast> of compatability
[00:06] <rymate1234> jounih, I hope it does if the main language is going to be javascript
[00:06] <nocoast> this means the US sgs3
[00:06] <nocoast> will get a port
[00:06] <nocoast> it means that the european HTC one X
[00:06] <nocoast> will get a port
[00:06] <nocoast> etc
[00:06] <chriadam> jounih: currently it does, but Lars and Simon are developing v4vm which is an ecma compliant C++ based engine.  it will eventually support full AOT generation.
[00:06] <Evi1john1> this guy supplied files for verizon samsung galaxy
[00:07] <damartin1> hey everyone! quick question, I am trying to install ubuntu touch on my nexus 7 but its says "adbd cannot run as root in production builds" I am currently rooted. Any ideas? Thanks
[00:07] <chriadam> rymate1234: no, you mean you hope it _doesn't_
[00:07] <rymate1234> since ubuntu phone is based of cyanogenmod
[00:07] <AlanBell> rymate1234: the bit that puts pixels on the screen is Qt
[00:07] <chriadam> rymate1234: firstly you say you're against runtime interpreters, now you say you want one?  at least be consistent
[00:07] <rymate1234> meh
[00:07] <jounih> chriadam: interesting! any ETA?
[00:07] <rymate1234> gah
[00:07] <bcooper> So... sprint phone flashing.
[00:07] <rymate1234> this channel is busier than I'm used too
[00:07] <rymate1234> XD
[00:08] <rymate1234> chriadam, v8 is a reasonably fast one
[00:08] <Lesicnik1> Guess this is the last time I ask this. Is the core OS independent from carrier and OEM modifications? Will we be able to update the install ourselves, or will we have to wait for the OEM/carrier to release it? Thanks!
[00:08] <trevorj> sup! installing the dev preview on my nexus 4 as we speak!
[00:08] <k1l_> rymate1234: can we stick to real issues and questions and not to made up things?
[00:08] <nocoast> so is all of this stuff
[00:08] <Evi1john1> anyone get it working for verizon?
[00:08] <nocoast> just
[00:08] <chriadam> jounih: not at this stage.  the code is all open (v4vm branch) but not sure how mature it is yet.  for a lot of simple expressions (eg, a large proportion of binding expressions, but none of the signal handlers etc) we already had non-interpreted bindings through the original v4.
[00:08] <rymate1234> all I originally asked was whether I could code apps in python
[00:08] <nocoast> its all demo
[00:08] <nocoast> stuff
[00:08] <jounih> Lesicnik1: it's open source with nightly updates
[00:08] <AlanBell> Lesicnik1: we don't know yet
[00:08] <nocoast> this isnt a fully usable
[00:08] <trevorj> rymate1234: I'm interested in that as well
[00:08] <nocoast> OS
[00:09] <nocoast> at this point
[00:09] <Wonka_> I figured out how to close an app
[00:09] <nocoast> at leas tnot
[00:09] <nocoast> on the exy5
[00:09] <rohan32> no nocoast, its not
[00:09] <Lesicnik1> Alright, thanks.
[00:09] <rymate1234> oh guys
[00:09] <rohan32> also, ohai
[00:09] <usererror> so, how do you close an app, Wonka_ ??
[00:09] <damartin1> I am trying to install ubuntu touch on my nexus 7 but its says "adbd cannot run as root in production builds" I am currently rooted. Any ideas? Thanks
[00:09] <rymate1234> because ubuntu phone is basically cyanogenmod without android
[00:09] <mateor> So no logcat in Ubuntu...any advice how to debug failed install
[00:09] <rymate1234> its reasonably straightforward to port
[00:09] <under_> damartin1: look at you nexus 7 and tap on yes
[00:09] <BLAKE_> its the preview lol not all features are going to be implemented.
[00:09] <jounih> chriadam: cool. that and better support in QT for other targets like Android/iOS could really give it a boost as a cross platform tool of choice
[00:10] <Wonka_> usererror: have the app open, pull up the bottom screen for search thingy, then touch X sign on the bottom
[00:10] <k1l_> rymate1234: http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone/app-ecosystem
[00:10] <damartin1> under_: I  did for the server request when I went into developer options and allowed usb debugging
[00:10] <usererror> :) ty Wonka_
[00:10] <trevorj> Is there any specific reason why QT5 was chosen as the UI engine?
[00:10] <under_> damartin1: you have to confirm the fingerprint
[00:10] <Lesicnik1> rymate1234: Actually, it isn't. It uses some parts for things like the kernel. But the rest is completely different. They just didn't bother with cleaning up useless files (like the build.prop) for the release of a dev preview.
[00:11] <chriadam> jounih: right, that's the major impetus behind it, really.  supporting platforms which don't allow JIT / executable stack.
[00:11] <AlanBell> trevorj: that would be a good question to save up for a Q&A session with the designers at some point
[00:11] <jounih> trevorj it's mature, powerful and very quick to develop in
[00:11] <chriadam> the added perf benefits is great but secondary
[00:11] <damartin1> under_: what do you mean confirm fingerprint? I haven't been asked that
[00:11] <mattwj2002> hey guys I am having trouble removing the samples
[00:11] <rymate1234> "It uses QML to give you a really slick, easy development experience for native apps with engines in C or C++, and JavaScript for UI glue that isn’t performance critical."
[00:11] <trevorj> jounih: works for me!
[00:11] <mattwj2002> I can't get nano to save the file
[00:11] <rymate1234> great
[00:11] <n-iCe> hi, when is the phone version released?
[00:11] <mattwj2002> edit /etc/[phone|tablet]-services and remove manage-address-books.py
[00:11] <rymate1234> n-iCe, a few hours ago
[00:11] <mattwj2002> I can't do that!
[00:12] <RobbyF> mattwj2002, same issue
[00:12] <n-iCe> o.O
[00:12] <AlanBell> n-iCe: it is a single image for both
[00:12] <jounih> chriadam: hope they pull it off, with or without digia
[00:12] <bcooper> would I have missed any steps if I didn't use the phablet-flash?
[00:12] <usererror> damartin1: another option I am going with is to use adb in my recovery.. so boot into your custom recovery and in many cases adb will be accessible.. no guarantees as it might be tied to the settings in the rom
[00:12] <mattwj2002> well what the heck?
[00:12] <mattwj2002> :P
[00:12] <tannerln7> so it finaly flashed but now it boots to a black screen
[00:12] <n-iCe> oh, just for Nexus
[00:12] <damartin1> usererror: I will try it! Thanks
[00:12] <under_> damartin1: when you give phablet-flash -b
[00:13] <under_>  in console, check you nexus
[00:13] <usererror> np :)
[00:13] <RobbyF> I want to remove the fake apps too
[00:13] <RobbyF> lol
[00:13] <n-iCe> I'm in a GT-I9300 GS3
[00:13] <jmgrosen> i'm having the same problem as tannerln7
[00:13] <mateor> I guess I will have to come back later. But I have no way to back out of this without a bootloader. It is stuck in recovery now
[00:13] <bcooper> and simply downloaded the boot.img and system.img, then the .zip? flash the boot then system, then zip?
[00:13] <damartin1> under_: i was using phable-flash  what is the difference with -b?
[00:13] <trevorj> mateor: You have a bootloader.
[00:13] <tannerln7> how long does the first boot normally take
[00:13] <Rasp> Anyone know how to close running apps?
[00:14] <bcooper> I modified the .zip a little bit to not freak out that it was a torroplus...
[00:14] <bcooper> *toroplus
[00:14] <redshirtlinux> Is the Verizon Samsun Galaxy Nexus 4G LTE not supported?
[00:14] <n-iCe> AlanBell: rymate1234 just for nexus devices?
[00:14] <cunctator_0374> how can we grab the image just for studing? isn't there a snapshot of the system somewhere?
[00:14] <mateor> Well, it isn't responding to fastboot on reboot. just redeploys the autoinstall\
[00:14] <atheos_> I just see a grey screen with google hidden behinf
[00:14] <k1l_> redshirtlinux: so far only google nexus devices
[00:14] <under_> damartin1: The -b performs a full bootstrap on the device. If the device is already unlocked it will carry on. If you have already bootstrapped once and want to install a daily just do:
[00:14] <atheos_> did flash img and two zip files
[00:14] <rymate1234> n-iCe, yes unless it gets ported to your phone
[00:14] <under_> damartin1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[00:14] <jounih> Rasp: atm, only from the HUD… it's the x icon
[00:14] <PiZZaMartijn> Rasp: Do a full swipe from the bottom and click the hourglass icon. then click the close button
[00:14] <jmgrosen> as tannerln7 said, how long does first boot take?
[00:15] <n-iCe> rymate1234: when can I check that?
[00:15] <AaronMT> I can't believe the browser identifies itself as an iPhone
[00:15] <damartin1> under_: i had seen that on the website, but i do not quite understand what a full bootstrap means....time to research
[00:15] <AlanBell> n-iCe: join the mailing list perhaps, or check back here
[00:15] <PiZZaMartijn> n-iCe: It hasn't been ported to other devices yet
[00:15] <atheos_> :O why does my scren flicker
[00:15] <Rasp> jounih: sweet - thanks
[00:16] <RobbyF> how do we edit the phone-services? seems to not save with nano?
[00:16] <AlanBell> n-iCe: there is no schedule of ports
[00:16] <Rasp> PiZZaMartijn: Sweet - thanks
[00:16] <n-iCe> thanks
[00:16] <tannerln7> when the phone rebooted after the install it is on a black screen
[00:16] <mattwj2002> I got it
[00:16] <jounih> AaronMT: i think it's just the useragent set wrong
[00:16] <tannerln7> how long does the first boot take
[00:16] <mattwj2002> I installed vim
[00:16] <RobbyF> k
[00:16] <typicalbender> <3 vim
[00:16] <trevorj> typicalbender: indeed
[00:16] <typicalbender> i just switch from an IDE to vim
[00:16] <typicalbender> not looking back
[00:16] <RiXtEr> tannerln7, as a general rule of thumb for flashing if it takes more than 5 mins, worry, if it takes 10, reflash.
[00:17] <trevorj> typicalbender: I made teh switch a while back too.
[00:17] <rymate1234> vim is alright
[00:17] <rymate1234> I prefer sublime text 2
[00:17] <tannerln7> ok thank you rixter
[00:17] <Zerrin> Uh, could I get some help, please?
[00:17] <jmgrosen> hm, i've been waiting for 10 :/
[00:17] <AlanBell> !ask | Zerrin
[00:17] <typicalbender> vim is just so customizable and very powerful
[00:17] <typicalbender> i've found
[00:18] <fourfthawaiian> I'm still at "waiting for device", post-download. Any idea how long this will be?
[00:18] <fadhil> Package android-tools-adb is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source  E: Package 'android-tools-adb' has no installation candidate, what should i do now?
[00:18] <Zerrin> OK; I tried installing Ubuntu Touch on my phone and it seems to have gone wrong.
[00:18] <RiXtEr> Zerrin, Could you be a bit less specific ?
[00:18] <AlanBell> fadhil: did you do the sudo apt-get update bit?
[00:18] <AlanBell> !details | Zerrin
[00:19] <GuidoPallemans> where can I find the source for the ubuntu phone internet application?
[00:19] <Zerrin> I followed the installation instructions and everything appeared to go well, until the final reboot.
[00:19] <cunctator_0374> isn't there a snapshot of the system somewhere on the net?
[00:19] <usererror> fadhil: what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[00:19] <Zerrin> Now it's doing nothing. At all.
[00:19] <fadhil> how about like this, can anyone teach me personaly how to intall the u buntu to my nexus 4 from the begining
[00:19] <mateor> ah! After 30 mins of install screen, and 7 mins after I typed it...the N7 rebooted into bootloader!
[00:19] <Deihmos> Is this worth it or really buggy
[00:19] <tannerln7> i have the same problem as zerrin.
[00:19] <Deihmos> Can this be installed without ubuntu desktop
[00:20] <tannerln7> my phone is stuck on a black screen
[00:20] <tannerln7> after the first reboot
[00:20] <cdnl> Deihmos it is pre-alpha....
[00:20] <mateor> It took almost 5 mins for the adb command to happen. Don't give up hope!
[00:20] <fadhil> im running 13.04
[00:20] <usererror> fadhil: you have failed a basic test, you won't say what version of ubuntu you are running and yet you ask for hand holding.
[00:20] <usererror> oh, okay.. 13.04
[00:20] <sgtkwol> fourfthawaiian and Zerrin if your device already has custom recovery, may be easier to download the .zips from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/quantal/mwc-demo/ and flash
[00:20] <atheos_> srsly they left all dailed numbers and messages in the build :(
[00:20] <GuidoPallemans> where can I find the source for the ubuntu phone internet application?
[00:20] <usererror> you are running a pre-release alpha
[00:20] <Zerrin> Oh, I'm using Ubuntu 12.04
[00:20] <Deihmos> cdnl: So not worth it then
[00:21] <mateor> In order to pass the asserts, I think I will have to reflash a system img from android
[00:21] <usererror> okay you need to upgrade to 12.10 then
[00:21] <sgtkwol> atheos I think they wanted to show what a phone "in-use" would look like
[00:21] <halflings> Hi guys :) !
[00:21] <fourfthawaiian> sgtkwol: I don't have custom recovery yet. Do you mean clockwork? And, thanks for the answer.
[00:21] <robotfuel> GuidoPallemans: https://code.launchpad.net/phone-app
[00:21] <halflings> I have a question =>
[00:21] <halflings> any lag on the Galaxy Nexus ?
[00:21] <fadhil> ok then, off to work first, will continue again later
[00:21] <robotfuel> GuidoPallemans: oh sorry you want the browser app?
[00:21] <fadhil> thanks for the support
[00:21] <jounih> GuidoPallemans: you mean the browser?
[00:22] <atheos_> sgtkwol : :) Yup I got that just shocked when I first saw messages from some one I dont know :P
[00:22] <sgtkwol> fourfthawaiian yes, twrp is supposed to be better for this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2149705
[00:22] <usererror> fadhil I believe it is apt-get install dist-upgrade
[00:22] <halflings> I'd love to use Ubuntu as my primary phone os (even if some features are not implemented yet) but lag would be a bummer
[00:22] <usererror> gl
[00:22] <PiZZaMartijn> halflings: It has some lag spikes when opening the dash
[00:22] <GuidoPallemans> robotfuel: I'll find it
[00:22] <GuidoPallemans> jounih: yes
[00:22] <typicalbender> halflings: i had some lags and had to pull the battery on my phone a couple of times
[00:22] <fourfthawaiian> sgtkwol: Very cool. Thanks a ton. I'll check it out. Lots of zips there. Will have to figure out what I need :P
[00:22] <halflings> PiZZaMartijn: Would you recommend using it at a daily basis
[00:22] <AlanBell> !lola | atheos_
[00:23] <halflings> typicalbender: Ok ... looks like I'm gonna keep my Android 4.2 for now :).
[00:23] <jmgrosen> well, i seem to be at a boot screen :D
[00:23] <sgtkwol> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes has a lot of info including how to remove all of that preloaded info
[00:23] <jmgrosen> is the boot screen just a sample screenshot?
[00:23] <Deihmos> Pull battery
[00:23] <Deihmos> I thought this was only for nexus
[00:23] <halflings> What about the NEXUS 4 ? Anyone tried it on it ? I'm gonna get one in a couple of weeks.
[00:23] <lira> hi i was just wondering how to chdir into a extracted directory
[00:23] <AaronMT> jounih: looks like it http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/webbrowser-app/trunk/view/head:/src/Ubuntu/Browser/Browser.qml#L116
[00:23] <trevorj> lira: cd
[00:23] <AlanBell> lira: cd is the change directory command
[00:23] <jmgrosen> tannerln7: try wiping data / cache, then flashing again
[00:23] <jmgrosen> that worked for me
[00:23] <GuidoPallemans> AaronMT: thanks
[00:23] <PiZZaMartijn> halflings: I would not recommend to use pre-alpha software on a daily basis
[00:23] <typicalbender> Deihmos: I had to pull the battery on my galaxy nexus
[00:23] <typicalbender> b/c it froze twice on me
[00:23] <tannerln7> did anybody else experience long boot times on the first boot?
[00:24] <fourfthawaiian> would quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip  be the right file to flash on a nexus 7?
[00:24] <jounih> AaronMT: yep :) looks like its already got a fixme
[00:24] <atheos_> anyone having screen flicker on Nexus 4 ?
[00:24] <brion> hey all -- just to confirm, galaxy nexus Verizon/CDMA version is *not* supported by the current builds right? i've got a nexus 4 on order, just waiting on it ;)
[00:24] <PiZZaMartijn> brion: nope
[00:24] <lira> ok so how do i Extract the downloaded file and chdir into the extracted directory.
[00:24] <brion> ok i'll try it on my tablets until then. :) thanks!
[00:24] <AlanBell> ubot5: !phablet-source is <reply> source code for the phone and tablet apps is at https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/
[00:25] <cdnl> Is there an irc for dev's. No offence to anyone here but I'm looking for some decent conversation not silly quiestions about 'change directory' or 'my screen is blank what happened' or .. you get the idea.
[00:25] <jmgrosen> hm, i'm stuck at the lock screen
[00:25] <AlanBell> !phablet-source | GuidoPallemans
[00:25] <jmgrosen> the time is changing and i can lock it and unlock it
[00:25] <jmgrosen> but it's not responding to touch
[00:25] <AlanBell> yay :)
[00:25] <usererror> cdnl - if you find it, pm it to me please :p
 ok so how do i Extract the downloaded file and chdir into the extracted directory.
[00:26] <AlanBell> cdnl: check back in a few days, the fuss will die down and the devs will be awake again. In fact check back after mobile world congress
[00:26] <robotfuel> jmgrosen: try rebooting, if it's the first time you've booted the phone/tablet
[00:26] <cdnl> usererror, i'll keep you in mind. I'll be back in a few days when this has settled down a bit.
[00:26] <usererror> :)
[00:26] <mateor> cdnl look at irc #/dev/null
[00:26] <jmgrosen> robotfuel: thanks
[00:26] <marugby123> so I installed it, but theres a bunch of tweets and contacts here that aren't mine...wtf
[00:26] <AlanBell> !lola | marugby123
[00:27] <under_> ok i just installed on nexus 7
[00:27] <under_> i can remove it
[00:27] <jmgrosen> robotfuel: thanks a lot, it worked! :D
[00:27] <lira> may someone plz help me on restoring android
[00:28] <AlanBell> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install#Restoring_Android
[00:28] <under_> lira: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[00:28] <Lirodon> Question: you CAN just use ClockworkMod/TeamWin to do it too, right? Or does your installer do special things
[00:28] <AlanBell> Lirodon: sure, you can use that
[00:28] <Deihmos> Can you make calls and receive text
[00:29] <AlanBell> Deihmos: yes
[00:29] <PiZZaMartijn> Deihmos: Only if you first remove the pin from your sim
[00:29] <lira> under: yesbut i dont know how to chdir into the extracted directory.
[00:29] <Deihmos> Do I need to use ubuntu desktop to install
[00:29] <alzarah> how to get your ip address in ubuntu phone ?!
[00:30] <AlanBell> lira: oh, that needs clarifying
[00:30] <AlanBell> lira: what was the filename of the download?
[00:30] <vishnumrao> Does cellular data work or just voice?
[00:30] <robotfuel> alzarah: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes#Accessing_the_system_for_development
[00:30] <cdnl> alzarah https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes#Sample_content  ifconfig
[00:30] <lira> for the directions in restoring ubuntu
[00:30] <PiZZaMartijn> vishnumrao: just voice
[00:31] <nOStahl> so how much progress have you guys made so far with it today? :)
[00:31] <lira> occam-jdq39
[00:31]  * rsalveti just ported the tablet preview to samsung galaxy tab 2 7.0 \o/
[00:31] <kumikumi_> I just want to say thank you and good job to the ubuntu team for making this happen!
[00:31] <rsalveti> will show tomorrow during the hangout
[00:31] <AlanBell> lira: are you doing this from a terminal window?
[00:31] <lira> yes
[00:31] <jounih> rsalveti nice! running smooth?
[00:31] <kumikumi_> Just installed ubuntu on my gnexus and built a helloworld with gcc :)
[00:31] <Yugge> vishnumrao: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes#Telephony
[00:31] <rsalveti> jounih: yup, quite good, just need to make the display to rotate
[00:31] <rsalveti> which is a known issue
[00:32] <jounih> cool :)
[00:32] <AlanBell> lira: ok, so you did something like unzip nexus7downloadimage.zip
[00:32] <AlanBell> lira: then you would do something like cd nexus7downloadimage
[00:32] <alzarah> thanks for the respond, but I am trying to ssh to the phone and the connection get refused
[00:32] <AlanBell> lira: then adb reboot-bootloader
[00:32] <vishnumrao> @ PiZZaMartijn, thanks.
[00:32] <meetingology> vishnumrao: Error: "PiZZaMartijn," is not a valid command.
[00:33] <PiZZaMartijn> :)
[00:33] <robotfuel> alzarah: adb forward tcp:8888# tcp:22
[00:33] <ghettosmurf> Hey Guys, Quick question... Can I do this from a virtual box vm? by "this" i mean image my galaxy nexus... im pretty sure I can but before i fire up a new vm just wondering if anyone has tried it
[00:33] <jounih> kumikumi_: asiaa!
[00:33] <Ethere> this may be a total noob question, but there's no way to install ubuntu from within windows correct?
[00:33] <cdnl> ghettosmurf thats how i did mine
[00:33] <robotfuel> alzarah: the do: ssh phablet@localhost -p 8888
[00:33] <Suman> can i install this from Windows os ?
[00:33] <Lirodon> ghettosmurf, you need USB access
[00:33] <Lirodon> Suman, I could flash my Galaxy Nexus with other ROMs from Windows with the adb tools, yes
[00:33] <jounih> ghettosmurf: i do it all the time with vmware
[00:33] <AlanBell> ghettosmurf: yes you can, someone did that from a win7 host earlier
[00:34] <ghettosmurf> cool cool
[00:34] <ghettosmurf> thanks gents
[00:34] <Thein> How ?
[00:34] <vishnumrao> PiZZaMartijn: Thanks!
[00:34] <AlanBell> Thein: what question are you asking?
[00:34] <Canaris> hey
[00:35] <pyrotechnick> how much work until iPhone?
[00:35] <mattwj2002> !lola
[00:35] <AlanBell> Suman: http://liliputing.com/2013/02/how-to-install-ubuntu-touch-on-a-nexus-7-with-windows-mac-or-linux.html
[00:35] <yefim323> just installed it on my N7, how do I set up wifi?
[00:35] <lira> AlanBell: not working
[00:35] <alzarah> i did this step and still i got connection refused !!! any ideas ?
[00:35] <wgrant> yefim323: Drag down from the wifi setting icon at the top
[00:35] <jounih> yefim323: drag down the networking indicator menu from top
[00:35] <AlanBell> pyrotechnick: it won't get installed on an iphone
[00:35] <wgrant> alzarah: Did you install ssh?
[00:35] <pyrotechnick> AlanBell: not ATM but eventually it will
[00:35] <yefim323> wgrant, clicked it and it seems to do little to nothing
[00:36] <AlanBell> lira: oh, what was the file name you downloaded?
[00:36] <pyrotechnick> just wondering if anyone has an idea of how much work there is to go
[00:36] <lira> this is the image i downloaded occam-jdq39-factory-345dc199.tgz
[00:36] <alzarah> in the desktop ubuntu or in ubuntu phone ?
[00:36] <jounih> pyrotechnick: can you install android on iphone?
[00:36] <wgrant> yefim323: If you swipe down from it you should get a thing titled "Networks", with a list of WiFi networks
[00:36] <wgrant> alzarah: On the phone
[00:36] <AlanBell> pyrotechnick: no, it won't, until android is ported to the iphone, which won't happen
[00:36] <pyrotechnick> you'll eat those words
[00:36] <trevorj> AlanBell: it's been ported to iPhones
[00:36] <alzarah> i can't figure out how
[00:37] <wgrant> alzarah: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes#Access_the_device_over_SSH
[00:37] <wgrant> You need to shell in with adb first
[00:37] <wgrant> Then install openssh-server
[00:37] <yefim323> wgrant, I get the list, and the networks are there, but when I click a network it doesn't open TTLS and PAP settings for me to log into my network
[00:37] <wgrant> Then you can ssh in over WiFi
[00:37] <marugby123> with the "edit" command its not working for the second step or removing the contacts
[00:37] <marugby123> of*
[00:37] <wgrant> yefim323: As mentioned in the release notes, only WEP and WPA Personal are supported today
[00:37] <wgrant> WPA Enterprise isn't
[00:37] <Ethere> let me rephrase my question, there's no guide to install this on my n7 from windows yet, correct?
[00:37] <robotfuel> alzarah: follow steps for ADB access (adb root, adb shell, ubuntu_chroot shell) then Install openssh-server on the device. (apt-get install openssh-server)
[00:37] <lira> AlanBell: occam-jdq39-factory-345dc199.tgz
[00:37] <cdavid138> hi, seem to be stuck on pushing to /sdcard/autodeploy.zip any ideas?
[00:37] <yefim323> wgrant, thanks :)
[00:38] <wgrant> yefim323: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes#Networking
[00:38] <kumikumi_> pyrotechnick: if you want to, you're free to port ubuntu/android on the iphone
[00:38] <kumikumi_> I'm sure many would appreciate that
[00:38] <AlanBell> lira: ok, did you do tar -zxvf occam-jdq39-factory-345dc199.tgz to expand it?
[00:38] <pyrotechnick> if you google a bunch of groups already have it at least booting
[00:38] <habstinat> I have a Nexus 4 with AOKP already installed. I ran phablet-flash once and everything went fine until I realized I didn't have fastboot installed, so it errored out at "sudo fastboot flash system /root/phablet-flash/95/quantal-preinstalled-system-armel+mako.img". I installed flashboot and retried, but now when I run phablet-flash I always get "Error while excetuting adb push /root/phablet-flash/95/quantal-preinstalled-phabl
[00:38] <kumikumi_> cool
[00:38] <Canaris> i am stuck at the "this device needs to be unlocked...." screen. Is this a common error and if so what can I do to fix it? (Nexus 7, UBuntu 12.10)
[00:38] <juicyjones> here are simple instructions for Mac OS X users to install the Ubuntu touch preview on your Galaxy Nexus http://autonome.wordpress.com/2013/02/21/installing-ubuntu-phone-demo-on-galaxy-nexus-from-mac-os-x/
[00:38] <AlanBell> lira: then cd occ<tab> should put you in the expanded directory
[00:38] <DavidJFulde> Anyone wondering how to navigate the UI:: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhueXPzT3pU
[00:38] <pyrotechnick> my iPhone's broken anyway i couldn't really care less, i'm just curious
[00:39] <alzarah> i will try it now thanks
[00:39] <AlanBell> pyrotechnick: ok, in that case maybe one day it will :)
[00:39] <sgtkwol> Canaris "fastboot oem unlock"
[00:39] <pyrotechnick> it's always only a matter of time when it comes to these things
[00:39] <marugby123> robotfuel: once openssh server is installed, will the edit command work
[00:39] <trevorj> pyrotechnick: tell enough geeks they can't do something and it will get done ;)
[00:39] <pyrotechnick> precisely
[00:39] <Canaris> sgtkwol....it already is unlocked
[00:40] <Canaris> sgtkwol it even says so in fast boot/bootloader
[00:40] <jounih> would be good if you could install any os on any hardware
[00:40] <robotfuel>  marugby123: for a text editor I use vim.tiny, I don't know if edit is installed.
[00:40] <pyrotechnick> well congrats anyway ubuntu people it's enchanting to see this all coming together
[00:40] <lira> AlanBell: this is what i get when i input that tar (child): Error is not recoverable: exiting now tar: Child returned status 2 tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[00:40] <marugby123> ok
[00:40] <Yugge> marugby123: sudo apt-get install vim
[00:40] <cdavid138> hi, seem to be stuck on pushing to /sdcard/autodeploy.zip any ideas?
[00:40] <pyrotechnick> may 1000 OSs blossom
[00:40] <Yugge> That's what I did :D
[00:40] <Yugge> install vim that is
[00:40] <AlanBell> lira: oh :( um, maybe a bad download?
[00:40] <trevorj> cdavid138: does 'adb shell' bring up a shell prompt?
[00:40] <marugby123> yugge: thanks
[00:41] <robotfuel> Yugge: vim.tiny is included.
[00:41] <marugby123> after that, will typing this edit command work?
[00:41] <marugby123> wait
[00:41] <marugby123> oh
[00:41] <marugby123> nevermind
[00:41] <Yugge> no, but typing vim filename will
[00:41] <marugby123> i'm a noob. they're saying to edit that file...
[00:41] <Yugge> robotfuel: didn't know that
[00:42] <marugby123> it's been a while since i shell scripted lol
[00:42] <kumikumi_> did anybody try installing the full ubuntu desktop on a phone or tablet yet? (I imagine it could be accessed by vnc)
[00:42] <trevorj> marugby123: the best days are the days you learn something new
[00:42] <Yugge> marugby123: if you aren't familiar to vim, maybe nano is a better bet
[00:42] <habstinat> As an extension to my earlier question, I definitely have enough storage left, and this is odd because on my first runthrough it seemed to have no problems executing the step it errors out on now.
[00:42] <marugby123> nano is a little chunkier. I'm used to vim lol
[00:42] <wgrant> kumikumi_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7
[00:42] <AlanBell> kumikumi_:  there is a desktop image for nexus 7, was released last october
[00:42] <kumikumi_> alright, I was talking about the phone version here
[00:42] <Yugge> marugby123: aight, just checking :)
[00:43] <wgrant> Canaris: Was your tablet encrypted before you tried to flash it?
[00:43] <cunctator_0374> kumikumi_: yes 12.10 on asus transformer
[00:43] <Canaris> wgrant: no it wasnt
[00:43] <Canaris> wgrant: has this error been mentioned before? is this a common error or am i the only one getting it?
[00:43] <wgrant> Canaris: Hm. Have you tried to rerun phablet-flash, or just the once?
[00:43] <GuidoPallemans> what apps have settings?
[00:43] <wgrant> I haven't seen it hang there before, but I've been asleep :)
[00:44] <Canaris> wgrant: yes, have tried it numerous times...always the same problem. I am about to try it from my macbook...maybe that works.
[00:44] <lira> AlanBell: im sure its not a bad download i had use this image when it was first released
[00:44] <Khaytsus> Is Cyanogenmod credited anywhere for the Touch ROM?
[00:44] <GuidoPallemans> what apps have settings?
[00:44] <wgrant> Canaris: What's the final output in the terminal and on the device?
[00:44] <marugby123> anyone using this on tmobilew?
[00:45] <marugby123> tmobile?
[00:45] <robotfuel> marugby123: I am in the US using tmobile
[00:45] <AlanBell> lira: I am just downloading that image . . .
[00:45] <GuidoPallemans> what apps have settings?
[00:45] <robotfuel> marugby123: I can call and do txt messages
[00:45] <Canaris> wgrant: my nexus7 reboots into fastload/bootloader and my ubuntu system just prompts me to enter my sudo password. after I enter that and hit return....nothing happens
[00:45] <Canaris> wgrant: neither on the device nor my ubuntu system
[00:45] <marugby123> when i go to the phone app, type my number, and hit the call button, nothing happens
[00:46] <wgrant> Canaris: There are no interesting log messages at the bottom off the fastboot screen on the device?
[00:46] <lira> AlanBell: ok so you going to do a small walkthrough sort of thing with me?
[00:46] <wgrant> Canaris: And what's the last message from the Ubuntu machine, other than the sudo prompt?
[00:46] <robotfuel> marugby123: try rebooting sometimes my modem gets stuck. a reboot fixes that.
[00:46] <Canaris> wgrant: unfortunately not
[00:46] <jmgrosen> is there any way to change the time zone?
[00:46] <RobbyF> websites thing we browse from iphone
[00:46] <robotfuel> marugby123: what device are you on?
[00:46] <marugby123> alright. will do after i import my contacts lol
[00:46] <marugby123> thanks
[00:46] <marugby123> nexus 4
[00:47] <Yugge> GuidoPallemans: Depends what you mean, every app have some actions available if you longswipe them (that is from the bottom to the middle of the screen) but there is no real settings, mainly just actions
[00:47] <wgrant> jmgrosen: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes#Timezone
[00:47] <Yugge> aw
[00:47] <Yugge> he left
[00:47] <jmgrosen> wgrant: ah, thanks :P
[00:47] <lira> AlanBell:i have a backup but its with twrp and when i flashed the ubuntu image it gave me cwmr
[00:48] <marugby123_> sorry. chrome crashed. but im using a nexus 4
[00:48] <trevorj> Wow man, the mirror I got is getting hammered
[00:48] <AlanBell> lira: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1702928/
[00:48] <AlanBell> do that :)
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[00:49] <yefim323> so copy and pasting is shit
[00:49] <yefim323> can anyone get it to copy from one app and paste it into anotheR?
[00:49] <robotfuel> marugby123: the n4 should have voice and txt support.
[00:49] <yefim323> notepad to browser or something?
[00:49] <robotfuel> marugby123: I have the gnex
[00:49] <AlanBell> yefim323: there will be lots of rough edges like that
[00:49] <Ursinha> yefim323, watch your language, please
[00:49] <marugby123_> ill look after the reboot
[00:49] <yefim323> Ursinha, sorry bout that
[00:49] <jmgrosen> ah, finally terminal access with apt-get and everything -- that's the ubuntu i wanted
[00:50] <yefim323> AlanBell, figured. It's interesting to see a product so early
[00:50] <alex____> This is barely anything from finished, the calculator doesn't even work!
[00:50] <trevorj> alex____: that was said many times ;)
[00:50] <AlanBell> alex____: yeah, this is about a year away from finished
[00:50] <rsalveti> it's important to be open from start as we can all get to see the source and contribute
[00:50] <habstinat> I have a Nexus 4 with AOKP already installed. I ran phablet-flash once and everything went fine until I realized I didn't have fastboot installed, so it errored out at "sudo fastboot flash system /root/phablet-flash/95/quantal-preinstalled-system-armel+mako.img". I installed flashboot and retried, but now when I run phablet-flash I always get "Error while excetuting adb push /root/phablet-flash/95/quantal-preinstalled-phabl
[00:50] <AlanBell> it is a functional demo at the moment
[00:50] <rsalveti> but yeah, not everything is functional
[00:50] <jmgrosen> when i run `ifconfig`, i get "Warning: cannot open /proc/net/dev (No such file or directory). Limited output."
[00:50] <rsalveti> we're getting there :-)
[00:51] <robotfuel> alex____: patches are welcome :)
[00:51] <trevorj> I really hope you'll be able to write apps in Python for this
[00:52] <bobsmith> NEED TORO PORT
[00:52] <alex____> What do they use to write the programs? Can't remember?
[00:52] <AlanBell> trevorj: I expect you will be able to (and I like python) but javascript is the preferred language for QML GUI stuff
[00:53] <antitau> How long does it generally take to push an image to the sdcard on a nexus 7?
[00:53] <jmgrosen> how do you close running apps?
[00:53] <AlanBell> all of gnome is standardising on javascript so that is a nice coincidence
[00:53] <cdnl> what would be nice is a dual boot - android and ubuntu - for people with one phone use the android partition as a daily driver and the ubuntu one for those long nights spent coding
[00:53] <yefim323> antitau, 10 min
[00:53] <usererror> cdnl - you can do that
[00:53] <antitau> yefim323: okay, thanks
[00:53] <chaosmaster> AlanBell: hey again :) my installation fails when attempting to push : '/tmp/tmprTlDNv' to '/cache/recovery/command'. it is giving me a Permission Denied error, any idea why ? :(
[00:53] <lira> AlanBell: thanks. ill let you know how that goes when im done
[00:53] <usererror> dual boot exists
[00:53] <yefim323> antitau, I assume you were talking about pushing autodeploy.zip?
[00:53] <cdnl> usererror i'm definately going to
[00:53] <antitau> yefim323: yep
[00:53] <AlanBell> chaosmaster: sorry, I have no idea, I don't have a device ;)
[00:53] <trevorj> AlanBell: Javascript is fine for GUI, I'd just rather use Python because I'm a bit biased
[00:53] <alex____> MultiRO wouldn't work for me, any tips on installing it using a Mac?
[00:53] <usererror> :)
[00:53] <yefim323> antitau, then yeah :) have fun! it's very exciting when it boots!
[00:54] <AlanBell> trevorj: me too, python with semantic indentation is full of awesome
[00:54] <jmgrosen> does anyone know how to close running apps?
[00:54] <robotfuel> trevorj:  there is a  tutoral on saturday https://plus.google.com/events/cs2lq9oqjl6vrf4u65u6ln3fj5c
[00:54] <yefim323> jmgrosen, nope
[00:54] <jmgrosen> oh.
[00:54] <robotfuel> trevorj: there is a QML tutoral on saturday https://plus.google.com/events/cs2lq9oqjl6vrf4u65u6ln3fj5c
[00:54] <trevorj> robotfuel: woooonderful, thank you
[00:54] <sgtkwol> cdnl can at least do nandroid backup and switch, even though it is a royal pain
[00:54] <kostt> hi
[00:54] <trevorj> AlanBell: but that sounds great. Knowing Ubuntu's history, I assumed Python support would exist eventually.
[00:54] <chaosmaster> my installation fails when attempting to push : '/tmp/tmprTlDNv' to '/cache/recovery/command'. it is giving me a Permission Denied error, any idea why ? :(
[00:54] <Yugge> jmgrosen: in the app, swipe from bottom to the middle of the screen, then press x in lower left corner
[00:54] <usererror> cdnl - check on xda-developers.com in their forum.. I think that is where the dual boot bootloader is .. its actually quite a well done piece
[00:55] <marugby123> rebooting now. lets hope it works now
[00:55] <jmgrosen> Yugge: thanks!
[00:55] <trevorj> robotfuel: I get a 404 there?
[00:55] <usererror> lol.. bloody black screen :p
[00:55] <cdnl> sgtkwol i really dislike pains, dual booting is the way to go
[00:55] <AlanBell> trevorj: http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/gomobile/ will be where it gets added eventually
[00:55] <cdnl> usererror \\ reading the forum post now
[00:55] <robotfuel> trevorj: https://plus.google.com/events/cs2lq9oqjl6vrf4u65u6ln3fj5c?authkey=CPLshMOz0eOO3AE does that work?
[00:56] <AlanBell> trevorj: the links work for me, perhaps you need to be logged into google plus (or not logged into google apps for domains)
[00:56] <trevorj> robotfuel: yes! thank you!
[00:56] <AlanBell> or get a different link :)
[00:56] <trevorj> AlanBell: I'm logged in, google was being weird I suppose, maybe because I don't have them in my circles?
[00:56] <kostt> can someone help me with touch on my gnexus ? i got it  installed but is it supposed to gsm and messages not work for this model ?
[00:56] <AlanBell> could be that
[00:56] <waa> Hey! I create a project and it has python tests can I use python to develop like a do here https://github.com/wiliamsouza/mandriva-control-center/tree/master/mcc2/frontends/services
[00:56] <marugby123> ok. restarted nexus 4 and still cant make a call. pressing the phone button after i type a number doesn't do anything...
[00:57] <shiznic> has this been released or ported to the verizon gnex (toro) yet?
[00:57] <AlanBell> waa: the UI is QML with javascript as the control language at the moment, but do try and get your applications running on it
[00:57] <robotfuel> kostt: it works for me, but sometimes the modem gets stuck. it will probably work after reboot
[00:57] <marugby123> any ideas robotfuel?
[00:57] <wgrant> shiznic: CDMA isn't supported, so you won't get voice/SMS on Verizon Galaxy Nexus, just WiFi
[00:58] <wgrant> (yes)
[00:58] <wgrant> er
[00:58] <robotfuel> marugby123: does your sim have a pin? it won't work with a pin
[00:58] <wgrant> (yet)
[00:58] <marugby123> ahhhh it does...crap...any way to remove the pin that you know of?
[00:58] <kostt> i did 3 reboots
[00:58] <trevorj> Is there a bug listing for Nexus 4 yet? Or a place that specifies the issues with getting 3g/hsdpa+ working on GSM (Nexus 4)?
[00:58] <kostt> and still no phone or gsm working
[00:58] <AlanBell> marugby123: put the sim in a different phone and remove it
[00:58] <mattwj2002> guys can I be honest?
[00:58] <marugby123> does it have to be a tmobile phone or no?
[00:59] <mattwj2002> I am a bit disappointed
[00:59] <mattwj2002> :(
[00:59] <robotfuel> marugby123: I don't know, my sim never had one
[00:59] <AlanBell> mattwj2002: much better than the alternative
[00:59] <waa> AlanBell, I'm looking to use language like python or C++
[00:59] <marugby123> alright
[00:59] <mattwj2002> true AlanBell
[00:59] <MrFunkyFresh> Is there a way to close running apps?
[00:59] <robotfuel> marugby123: my gnex also worked with a att sim
[00:59] <AlanBell> mattwj2002: this is a preview for showing to people at mobile world congress. It isn't an alpha release yet
[00:59] <mattwj2002> I know :)
[01:00] <wgrant> MrFunkyFresh: Open the app, do a long swipe from the bottom to get to the settings button, then click the close button
[01:00] <mattwj2002> I just thought it would be closer to being done
[01:00] <AlanBell> waa: is it using QML for the user interface
[01:00] <MrFunkyFresh> thanks :)
[01:01] <AlanBell> mattwj2002: if someone with lots of money at MWC wants to partner with canonical to ship squillions of handsets then it will get done fairly rapidly
[01:01] <mattwj2002> good point AlanBell
[01:01] <AlanBell> has to be quite a lot of squillions mind
[01:02] <waa> AlanBell, here we go lets use JS https://github.com/wiliamsouza/playground/tree/master/4square
[01:02] <RobbyF> must be same webkit as iphone, google and speed test link it to the app store.
[01:02] <jounih> waa you should be able to use c++
[01:03] <AlanBell> RobbyF: yeah, webkit is webkit (more or less)
[01:03] <marugby123> so simply putting my sim in a different phone will remove the pin, right?
[01:03] <AlanBell> marugby123: nope, putting it in another phone and going through the menus of that other phone to remove the pin will remove the pin
[01:04] <marugby123> crap ok
[01:04] <marugby123> thanks
[01:04] <jounih> it's not that it's webkit, it's because the useragent is currently set to iphone. will be fixed
[01:05] <waa> jounih, I think so, but the docs is not ready maybe
[01:05] <AlanBell> marugby123: you could reflash back to android to do it, but I am guessing borrowing another phone for a few minutes would be easier
[01:05] <antitau> why can't I set the time?
[01:05] <antitau> or clear these placeholder events...
[01:06] <habstinat> I have a Nexus 4 with AOKP already installed. I ran phablet-flash once and everything went fine until I realized I didn't have fastboot installed, so it errored out at "sudo fastboot flash system /root/phablet-flash/95/quantal-preinstalled-system-armel+mako.img". I installed flashboot and retried, but now when I run phablet-flash I always get "Error while excetuting adb push /root/phablet-flash/95/quantal-preinstalled-phabl
[01:06] <marugby123> might not be easier...lol finding another phone right now is hard. surprising on a college campus but hard lol
[01:06] <AlanBell> !lola | antitau
[01:06] <trevorj> habstinat: does adb shell work
[01:06] <robotfuel> antitau: you can clear them by wipeing the placeholder to the left or right(I forget which way)
[01:06] <robotfuel> antitau: I think they come back when you reboot though
[01:06] <lechuck_> hi everyone
[01:06] <lechuck_> one quick question
[01:06] <antitau> that worked with messages, but not with the events
[01:07] <antitau> and i still can't set the time
[01:07] <lechuck_> is there any way to install ubuntu touch in a nexus 7 tilapia ?
[01:07] <Aotom> Did anybody find that the comma key produces a "/" ?
[01:08] <Aotom> No one?
[01:08] <antitau> damn...i lost my jetpack joyride scores for this?
[01:08] <Aotom> Damn, maybe I should reflash lol
[01:08] <Skyshayde> Lol
[01:08] <elitexero> Possibly very noob question... are there image/rom files for the dev build?  Or just the install right to disk option?
[01:08] <robotfuel> antitau: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes#Timezone to set the clock
[01:08] <Skyshayde> Remember guys, always take a nandroid
[01:08] <Yugge> Aotom: Yep, my , is /
[01:08] <Aotom> Also @antitau, should've used titanium backup
[01:08] <trevorj> oh it booted!
[01:08] <elitexero> I'd rather fastboot it than flash it
[01:08] <lechuck_> nobody? I think tilapia and nakasig are the same device? or they aren't ?
[01:08] <trevorj> this looks rather wonderful
[01:09] <Aotom> Yugge: Thanks!
[01:09] <robertjw> Aotom: I see that / behavior too
[01:09] <habstinat> trevorj: Yup; works fine.
[01:09] <Aotom> Damn what a bug
[01:09] <sgtkwol> elitexero Ubuntu is essentially a ROM
[01:09] <robotfuel> lechuck_: it's not the same
[01:09] <Aotom> I need me that comma, for password reasons
[01:09] <Skyshayde> Except, it doesnt work with MultiROM
[01:09] <Aotom> lol
[01:09] <sgtkwol> elitexero http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2149705
[01:09] <antitau> I was going to backup before i put ubuntu on, but my tablet started from factory image when I unlocked it...i didn't know that would happen
[01:09] <Skyshayde> So I cant abuse my 32GB
[01:09] <lechuck_> robotfuel so.. it's not possible to install the rom on a tilapia ?
[01:09] <elitexero> Ah ok, thank you
[01:10] <Aotom> I'm excited to see how this will improve over the coming days
[01:10] <kemcafe> hello everyone
[01:10] <robotfuel> lechuck_: I there are hard coded values that look for grouper and maguro etc.
[01:10] <Yugge> Skyshayde: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2011403
[01:10] <robotfuel> lechuck_: the tilapia is the n7 with gsm?
[01:10] <lechuck_> yeah it is
[01:10] <dutchhome> has anyone tried side loading a homemade app yet?  like the currency converter
[01:11] <lechuck_> it uses the nakasig rom as far as I can see
[01:11] <robotfuel> lechuck_: it might work, the grid units and webkit DPR won't be correct
[01:11] <lechuck_> but how can I fool it to get it installed?
[01:11] <Yugge> dutchhome: I helped Guido with his reddit app, why?
[01:11] <dutchhome> just curious whats involved
[01:11] <lechuck_> I get this message: Device detected as tilapia Unsupported device, autodetect fails device
[01:12] <Skyshayde> Is Ubuntu touch working with MultiROM?
[01:12] <Skyshayde> I heard earlier it wasnt
[01:12] <Aotom> It is
[01:12] <Aotom> Or so I hear
[01:12] <Skyshayde> Oh
[01:12] <Yugge> Skyshayde: They released a new one today
[01:12] <Aotom> r/Android
[01:12] <Skyshayde> Imma go test it then
[01:12] <robotfuel> lechuck_: the roms aren't built for telapia it wouldn't work
[01:13] <Skyshayde> What would the best way to update multiROM be?
[01:13] <kemcafe> will i lose recovery (cwm) after flashing ubuntu phone on my galaxy nexus guys ?
[01:13] <Skyshayde> flash everything again?
[01:13] <lechuck_> ok so I'm done with this... damn it... it looks really cool
[01:13] <senorsmile> has anyone had issues connecting to wpa2?
[01:13] <Yugge> dutchhome: I scped the files to my home folder, then ran qmlscene --desktop_file_hint=/usr/share/applications/qmlscene.desktop main.qml
[01:14] <dandude159> well hello
[01:14] <dandude159> how is this working for everyone?
[01:14] <trevorj> really well for a pre alpha
[01:14] <robotfuel> senorsmile: on 5gz?
[01:14] <Skyshayde> So, not specifically ubuntu phone related, but can I just reflash it all to update MultiROM?
[01:14] <kemcafe> will i lose recovery (cwm) after flashing ubuntu phone on my galaxy nexus guys ? could you please answer me
[01:15] <Skyshayde> I want to setup ubuntu touch, but not flash my internal rom
[01:15] <trevorj> kemcafe: you can just reflash it if you want
[01:15] <senorsmile> no 2.4
[01:15] <dutchhome> Yugge: cool, thanks
[01:15] <trevorj> kemcafe: you have fastboot
[01:15] <dandude159> anyone care to post some images on imgur or someting?
[01:15] <dandude159> i know they have there stuff on youtube
[01:15] <kemcafe> yah thanks :) i will try
[01:15] <dandude159> but i want real user stuff
[01:15] <yefim323> dandude159, there is no screenshot app
[01:15] <trevorj> dandude159: it looks the same ;)
[01:15] <senorsmile> is sees it
[01:15] <senorsmile> just times out
[01:15] <senorsmile> it seems
[01:15] <dandude159> hmm ok
[01:16] <dandude159> is the os something that is well designed?
[01:16] <dandude159> or another gimmick?
[01:16] <ulkesh> dandude159: it really does, but here's my vid (not to self-promote, because i really don't care :) ):  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfL06hzAgrI
[01:16] <JdGordon> can ubunut be installed via CWM recovery?
[01:16] <dandude159> navigation wise
[01:16] <dandude159> and thanks
[01:16] <trevorj> dandude159: it's pre-alpha
[01:16] <kumikumi_> dandude159: I'd suggest you to try it yourself. It's still in early mockup stage anyway
[01:16] <robertjw> dandude159:  here are a couple screenshots  http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/181205/
[01:16] <dandude159> can we dual boot yet
[01:17] <kumikumi_> just installed xorg and openbox btw.
[01:17] <yefim323> dandude159, http://i.imgur.com/wTGTnXh.jpg
[01:17] <trevorj> does it use X?
[01:17] <kumikumi_> on a galaxy nexus
[01:17] <kumikumi_> trevorj: not by default
[01:17] <trevorj> or is qt5 somehow drawn directly on a framebuffer?
[01:17] <dandude159> not bad
[01:17] <trevorj> ala *flinger? lol
[01:17] <Skyshayde> Can ubuntu touch run full ubuntu apps?
[01:17] <dandude159> how much are they pushing amazon
[01:17] <senorsmile> kumikumi: how's that going?  I can't imagine it's too touch friendly
[01:17] <yefim323> Skyshayde, nope
[01:17] <yefim323> Skyshayde, or at least not yet
[01:18] <trevorj> Is the bootup controlled by upstart?
[01:18] <Alfie> Hi there, Had a quick question
[01:18] <dandude159> guys, can we dual boot this and android on the nexus 4?
[01:18] <kumikumi_> senorsmile: I'm just playing around. I'll install a vnc server and try to access it remotely
[01:18] <trevorj> I literally just booted into it, so I'm still checking things like this =)
[01:18] <elitexero> *looks at picture* .... *sees fingernails*
[01:18] <elitexero> I hope you're female..... them things are too long
[01:19] <Alfie> Can this mobiel edtion run on a LG G2X
[01:19] <Alfie> mobile*
[01:19] <sgtkwol> Alfie tune in tomorrow, porting https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
[01:19] <senorsmile> Alfie: I highly doubt it, although cm 10.1 is running on the g2x now, so I suppose it's possible
[01:19] <dutchhome> yeah, i'm keeping my eye on the porting page
[01:19] <yefim323> elitexero, :(
[01:20] <Alfie> ughhh i dont want to wait tho:(
[01:20] <yefim323> dandude159, yeah
[01:20] <yefim323> dandude159, ppl are working on it
[01:21] <Alfie> hmm welll another Question. Can I flash my device while on im on windows? or does it have to be through the Linux way
[01:21] <dandude159> yeah im reading that on reddit
[01:21] <Alfie> im really new to this so im not sure if im naming it right
[01:21] <yefim323> dandude159, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2011403
[01:21] <dandude159> they have it working on the 7 and the galaxy
[01:21] <Alfie> and awesome reddit!
[01:21] <yefim323> I'm on the 7
[01:21] <Yugge> Skyshayde: depends what you mean with full ubuntu apps
[01:21] <Yugge> Skyshayde: You can install and run commandline programs
[01:21] <Alfie> ohhh
[01:21] <Alfie> so just flash it like a normal roms
[01:21] <dandude159> to whoever has this running right now, do you think this can emerge as a new mobile os in the market realistacilly?
[01:22] <dandude159> realistically excuse me
[01:22] <Yugge> Skyshayde: But all grafical stuff needs to be qml or html5
[01:22] <Skyshayde> ah
[01:22] <llstarks> sgtkwol, can't wait for all the broken hearts with locked bootloaders
[01:22] <ulkesh> dandude159: if they can make it a truly single device to four screens and give us full desktop when we want it/etc, yes...motorola failed miserably trying their webtop...really hoping canonical does this right
[01:22] <PhantomGamers> is there a mirror for the source repository?
[01:23] <dandude159> i feel like theyre gonna sell out and add some stupid content that no one wants by default and the whole thing will fail
[01:23] <Skyshayde> Ah, I was wondering how well minecraft would run if it theoretically started.  I mean, my Nexus 7 almost out powers my desktop
[01:23] <sgtkwol> llstarks Ubuntu is essentially a ROM, just like CM or PA, just not an Android ROM
[01:23] <dandude159> just like they did with amazon
[01:23] <yefim323> Skyshayde, oh...minecraft
[01:23] <Alfie> Wait so can anyone guide me onto flashing this onto my android?
[01:23] <ulkesh> dandude159: well the amazon thing can be turned off, btw...EFF or whoever is just complaining it's on by default
[01:23] <Alfie> im just kinda lost
[01:24] <kostt> im having problems going back to android aswell
[01:24] <trevorj> dandude159: it was a single unity plugin, not really a deal breaker
[01:24] <Skyshayde> I doubt it'd work
[01:24] <trevorj> dandude159: and it atleast had functionality
[01:24] <tannerln7> should i use the -b flag when flashing this onto my nexus 4 that is already rooted and had a custom rom
[01:24] <Skyshayde> But I am a minecraft addict
[01:24] <Skyshayde> So I felt the need to check
[01:24] <dandude159> im only complaining that it did not add any requested features and was only added to line their own pockets
[01:24] <trevorj> tannerln7: yes
[01:24] <tannerln7> ok that s what i thought, thanks
[01:24] <dandude159> its just bad buisness practices
[01:24] <kostt> i do the command ./flash-all.sh and says waiting for device to connect
[01:24] <dandude159> i want ubuntu mobile to succeed
[01:25] <trevorj> dandude159: well, it's a good business practice, maybe bad user experience practice
[01:25] <Alfie> Anyone?
[01:25] <trevorj> dandude159: ;)
[01:25] <dandude159> any competition in the mobile sphere is good for everyone
[01:25] <Skyshayde> kostt, goto fastboot if you are not already on
[01:25] <dandude159> its bad buisness practive long term
[01:25] <ulkesh> dandude159: sorry dude, while i agree somewhat in principle, every business who does any sort of advertising (*ahem* google) does this
[01:25] <yefim323> Alfie, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[01:25] <kostt> i was on fastboo
[01:25] <Alfie> Thank You:)
[01:25] <Skyshayde> oh
[01:25] <dandude159> the community backlash is not worth it
[01:25] <Skyshayde> Uh
[01:25] <kostt> tells me an error hold on
[01:25] <Skyshayde> you have fastboot drivers on your computer?
[01:25] <robotfuel> I don't mind the amazon search I use it all the time. I like the github lens too
[01:25] <dandude159> i dont esspecialyl care that they put it in. im just saying it wasnt smart
[01:25] <trevorj> robotfuel: me too, the github one is pretty cool
[01:26] <ProGEEK> lol just ported SameGame to QT5
[01:26] <ulkesh> dandude159: then the same people should complain about google and all the other people doing this...i don't see a difference just because it's an OS
[01:26] <Alfie> didnt really understand on how to do it
[01:26] <dandude159> what does google do?
[01:26] <yefim323> Alfie, it's just one instruction phablet-flash -b
[01:26] <dandude159> i dont understand, they put amazon searches into the main search function of the os
[01:26] <ulkesh> dandude159: adwords, adsense, etc...all things are tailored to you and your searches, etc
[01:26] <Alfie> cause im running a windows ? not sure if this matters i mean im tech savy but im lost when i here linux but really want to get into it
[01:26] <yefim323> dandude159, they removed it for the next release
[01:26] <dandude159> yeah i know
[01:26] <Alfie> oh but i dont see the download im flashing anywhre
[01:27] <yefim323> Alfie, the command downloads the rom
[01:27] <Alfie> hmmm
[01:27] <dandude159> im only saying they need to have a clean run if they want to win in mobile
[01:27] <Alfie> this is...bonerfic
[01:27] <dandude159> dont do anything stupid like that amazon thing
[01:27] <yefim323> Alfie, it downloads like three files, the md5sum, the image, and something else
[01:27] <trevorj> Why isn't /proc bind mounted in the ubuntu chroot?
[01:27] <yefim323> Alfie, all with one command, amazing isn't it?
[01:28] <Alfie> oh ok yea i didnt get it untill you said that oh ok this saves me the headache of trying to solve it
[01:28] <Alfie> Its not that im stupid i was just misunderstanding the page
[01:28] <ulkesh> dandude159: word...well honestly i'm not sure they will "win"...but my view is that the more competition, the more innovation...so i'm loving this
[01:28] <Alfie> i felt like a normie
[01:28] <Alfie> :(
[01:28] <dutchhome> what is confusing to you?
[01:28] <RiXtEr> Hey guys if  I flash with twrp, do I flash 2 zips or just the armel+maguro one ?
[01:28] <cdnl> RiXtEr both
[01:28] <trevorj> Has anyone got wifi working on a Nexus 4?
[01:29] <RiXtEr> thanks
[01:29] <trevorj> I get an IP via DHCP but I cannot ping out
[01:29] <Akiva-Thinkpad> When you are tired and trying to program, I find listening to this works amazing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjSG-fiouXo
[01:29] <dandude159> a "win" for me is 5% or more market penetration, that means another "major" player in the market, means more competition, means yay for me
[01:29] <robotfuel> trevorj: the enviroment is separated ssh in to get pids
[01:29] <cdnl> RiXtEr i havent done it that way but i heard its necessary
[01:29] <yefim323> the browser almost passes acid3
[01:29] <ulkesh> dandude159: agreed :)
[01:29] <DavidJFulde> RiXtEr both. armel+maguro AND the phablet one
[01:29] <yefim323> so that's pretty impressive
[01:29] <trevorj> robotfuel: I just mounted it
[01:29] <trevorj> robotfuel: why the separation?
[01:29] <yefim323> although I don't get why they just didn't bundle in Chrome or FF or something
[01:29] <wgrant> yefim323: It's a WebKit-based Qt5 browser
[01:30] <robotfuel> trevorj: you are seeing android process in adb, it's just the way they did it.
[01:30] <yefim323> wgrant, ooh that's actually pretty awesome
[01:30] <trevorj> robotfuel: I wasn't trying to get pids, I understand chroots ;)
[01:30] <wgrant> trevorj: It's mounted automatically for me
[01:30] <trevorj> robotfuel: I was just trying to ifconfig, and found it odd proc wasn't bind mounted by default when ubuntu_chroot'ing
[01:31] <waa> $ qmlviewer
[01:31] <waa> qmlviewer: could not exec '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/bin/qmlviewer': No such file or directory
[01:31] <trevorj> really weird how I can't ping out yet I get a DHCP address from wifi though
[01:31] <trevorj> iwconfig shows connection
[01:31] <tannerln7> i still dont understand why this takes soo long to push the files over a vmware but oh well.. as long as it works haha
[01:31] <wgrant> trevorj: Which device?
[01:31] <Alfie> Dutchhome , i was confused on how to get the rom to my phone
[01:31] <trevorj> wgrant: Nexus 4
[01:31] <chaosmaster> hey guys, I'm having trouble during my installation on my Nexus 7 : during the process of the installation, and while files are being pushed onto the device, I'm getting an error message saying that my Nexus 7 needs to be unlocked for the following to work ; the problem is that it is already unlocked and the process won't go forward, any ideas of why that is ?
[01:32] <habstinat> trevorj and everyone else: I've posted my question with more details at <http://askubuntu.com/questions/259536/failure-installing-ubuntu-touch-on-nexus-4-with-aokp-adb-push-protocol-failu> if anyone wants to take a gander.
[01:32] <chaosmaster> and how to fix it ? ^^
[01:32] <wgrant> chaosmaster: What's the last message shown at the bottom of the tablet screen?
[01:32] <marugby123> ok so i'm back on the android bootloader and trying to run the ./flash-all.sh command and its saying no such file or directory found. any ideas guys?
[01:32] <marugby123> (trying to restore android)
[01:32] <trevorj> habstinat: I asked you a question, does adb shell work
[01:32] <chaosmaster> wgrant: you mean on my tablet itself ?
[01:32] <wgrant> chaosmaster: Yeah
[01:32] <robotfuel> trevorj: I am not sure why they made that decision
[01:33] <wgrant> chaosmaster: It should be in the bootloader at this point
[01:33] <chaosmaster> wgrant: it says unlocked.
[01:33] <Musashimaru> is there any documentation on how to use ubuntu phone? The actual demo doesn't look like usable OS
[01:33] <wgrant> chaosmaster: There aren't any log messages down the bottom?
[01:33] <trevorj> Musashimaru: it's pre-alpha
[01:34] <wgrant> Musashimaru: It's a developer preview, not meant for day-to-day use yet
[01:34] <habstinat> trevorj: And I responded two minutes after you posted that; yes, it works fine, I just went in and tried lsing a few directories.
[01:34] <chaosmaster> wgrant: nothing under "lock state - unlocked"
[01:34] <marugby123> guys any ideas? I can't restore android back
[01:34] <trevorj> habstinat: ah, sorry, must of missed it!
[01:34] <trevorj> habstinat: do you have enough space on your sdcard for the push?
[01:35] <juicyjon1s> marugby123: source flash-all.sh?
[01:35] <trevorj> habstinat: while it's adb pushing autodeploy, adb shell in and watch the size of the file in /sdcard via ls
[01:35] <yefim323> wgrant, I'm loving this preview! Thanks for helping develop it
[01:35] <trevorj> habstinat: make sure it's rising
[01:35] <marugby123> nevermind. wasn't down enough layers. all good
[01:35] <wgrant> yefim323: I had nothing to do with it :)
[01:35] <yefim323> wgrant, ..ok then
[01:35] <yefim323> wgrant, thanks for helping me out either way :)
[01:35] <habstinat> trevorj: I have 10.80 of 12.92 GB free. I'll try that though.
[01:35] <wgrant> chaosmaster: Hm. Was your tablet encrypted before you tried to flash it, or anything special like that?
[01:35] <wgrant> yefim323: Heh, np
[01:36] <Musashimaru> wgrant and trevorj : Ok, it's dev preview... but i find it really far away from what I may expect from an alpha. It looks like a "flash demo"
[01:36] <chaosmaster> wgrant: not that i know of, all i did was follow the instructions on the wiki for this ubuntu touch
[01:36] <trevorj> Musashimaru: it really is a flash demo at this point ;)
[01:36] <wgrant> Musashimaru: It's not meant to be an alpha
[01:36] <usererror> so, has the source dropped for this yet?
[01:37] <dutchhome> hopefulliy tomorrow when the porting page goes up
[01:37] <wgrant> chaosmaster: You've tried running phablet-flash more than once?
[01:37] <usererror> oh, good
[01:37] <chaosmaster> wgrant: yes i have, several times
[01:37] <Method> it looks like the binary blob drivers are included in the images being distributed. Did Canonical license them or was it somehow determined that they were distributable without direct licenses?
[01:37] <sgtkwol> I have to say, a pretty damn good flash demo
[01:37] <Namidairo> http://phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb
[01:37] <usererror> wgrant: I had to run phablet-flash 4 times.. then it worked.. just an FYI
[01:37] <habstinat> trevorj: Trying it again with <<watch -n1 "ls -l /sdcard/autodeploy.zip">> running now.
[01:37] <Namidairo> usererror: http://phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb
[01:37] <usererror> :D
[01:38] <habstinat> trevorj: It's increasing in size every second.
[01:38] <usererror> I am so a tiny bit in love with you right now Namidairo
[01:38] <trevorj> habstinat: good! then it's working.
[01:38] <usererror> tym
[01:38] <Namidairo> eww
[01:38] <dmj_nova> is there anyone who can help with multirom?
[01:38] <PhantomGamers> the ubuntu git is slow as hell :/
[01:38] <PhantomGamers> ive been syncing for hours
[01:38] <trevorj> PhantomGamers: I'm sure you and many others ;)
[01:38] <Namidairo> because a bajillion people are trying to repo sync atm?
[01:39] <PhantomGamers> they should push it to github too ;(
[01:39] <egestatem> got a question for you all: did you get to make an account or did you just have to use the guest account that's already set up?
[01:39] <habstinat> trevorj: Each time it looks something like this, with the large number increasing: "-rw-rw-r-- root     sdcard_rw 58064896 2013-02-21 20:38 autodeploy.zip". We'll see what happens when it finishes though.
[01:39] <Namidairo> you could always be a dick and repo sync -j8
[01:39] <Musashimaru> wgrant, I don't understand how it could be stable and complete for October.
[01:39] <trevorj> Namidairo: lol
[01:39] <PhantomGamers> im syncing -j16 :V
[01:39] <Namidairo> even better.
[01:39] <Namidairo> you dick.
[01:40] <trevorj> Musashimaru: Ubuntu moves fast.
[01:40] <PhantomGamers> :D
[01:40] <trevorj> Musashimaru: Do you remember Android 1.0/2.0?
[01:40] <trevorj> Musashimaru: how "polished" was that?
[01:40] <wgrant> I find it best not to remember those...
[01:40]  * Namidairo remembers 2.0
[01:40] <chaosmaster> wgrant: should i wipe it clean again, and start over ?
[01:40] <Method> so, noone knows that is up with the drivers?
[01:40] <Namidairo> everything is grey
[01:40] <Namidairo> ALL IS GREY
[01:40] <iDoiStuff> How long does it take to push the files to the SDCARD? The nexus 4 was fast, but my nexus 7 has been sitting here for 15 minutes..
[01:41] <wgrant> chaosmaster: Might be worth a try doing a rebootstrap.
[01:41] <trevorj> iDoiStuff: same usb port?
[01:41] <tannerln7> hm so im getting one of the same errors as another guy did, i forgot his name.. but i do phablet-flash -b wait for everything to download and push, and then when it finaly reboots my phone it goes to the bootloader and terminal says your device must be device need to be unlocked for the following to work. its definitely unlocked...
[01:41] <chaosmaster> wgrant: how does one do that ? :D :D
[01:41] <Musashimaru> trevorj, It was horrible... but, it took several years to have something cbetter. Here we talk about nothing to full system in 6 monthes
[01:41] <iDoiStuff> trevor: same one.
[01:41] <wgrant> chaosmaster: Make sure you're running phablet-flash with the -b option, if you weren't already
[01:41] <trevorj> iDoiStuff: damn, was hoping you got a 1.0 port by chance ;)
[01:41] <dmj_nova> Musashimaru: Did you use Ubuntu 11.04?
[01:41] <chaosmaster> wgrant: yes, the last try was with the-b
[01:42] <wgrant> chaosmaster: Can you pastebin the full terminal output?
[01:42] <Musashimaru> dmj_nova, yes
[01:42] <dmj_nova> 11.04 was horrible
[01:42] <trevorj> Musashimaru: I doubt they mean 'full system', I bet they mean android 2.0 quality
[01:42] <dmj_nova> 12.04 (IMO) was quite good
[01:42] <iDoiStuff> trevorj: any idea? should I keep it here for a while or something? The cursor has stopped blinking in terminal, then blinks again once I refocus the window.
[01:42] <dmj_nova> one year
[01:42] <iDoiStuff> FINALLY
[01:42] <trevorj> iDoiStuff: thats normal
[01:42] <Musashimaru> dmj_nova, I dont like unity at all.
[01:42] <tannerln7> hm so im getting one of the same errors as another guy did, i forgot his name.. but i do phablet-flash -b wait for everything to download and push, and then when it finaly reboots my phone it goes to the bootloader and terminal says your device must be device need to be unlocked for the following to work. its definitely unlocked...
[01:42] <lira> does anyone know how to push to a phone running ubuntu
[01:43] <dmj_nova> My guess is 13.10 will be good, but 14.04 is the real jewel
[01:43] <trevorj> lira: scp
[01:43] <chaosmaster> wgrant: sure, but i'm sorry if i sound a little stupid, i'm very novice with ubuntu : how does one do that exactly ?
[01:43] <iDoiStuff> trevorj: it just finished! only took 15 minutes :)
[01:43] <dmj_nova> Musashimaru: I really didn't like unity until 12.04
[01:43] <lira> AlanBell: you still on here
[01:43] <dmj_nova> now I do
[01:43] <wgrant> chaosmaster: Just copy and paste the full terminal output from when you raun 'phablet-flash -b' onto http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[01:43] <Musashimaru> trevorj, today, we expect more than Android 2.0 :)
[01:43] <lira> trevor:scp?
[01:44] <trevorj> lira: scp is secure copy, it uses ssh to copy files
[01:44] <trevorj> lira: man scp
[01:44] <Musashimaru> dmj_nova, I have 4 screens... unity is not made for me
[01:44] <tannerln7> hm so im getting one of the same errors as another guy did, i forgot his name.. but i do phablet-flash -b wait for everything to download and push, and then when it finaly reboots my phone it goes to the bootloader and terminal says your device must be device need to be unlocked for the following to work. its definitely unlocked...
[01:44] <dmj_nova> Musashimaru: never tried with 4, was fine for me with 2
[01:44] <lira> trevorj: and how would i do that through terminal sorry not that good with it
[01:45] <trevorj> lira: you can just use adb push to push files
[01:45] <wcolato> hi everyone! I know that it was probably asked before, but I just joined the channel and I'd like to know if there's a version of ubuntu phone for gs3 already?!
[01:45] <trevorj> lira: adb push sourcefilename targetfilename
[01:45] <dutchhome> wcolato: no
[01:45] <Musashimaru> dmj_nova, 4 screens in portrait mode is very good for dev and other things... :)
[01:46] <trevorj> Musashimaru: I'm a big fan of xmonad on my 3
[01:46] <lira> trevorj: this is the file name cm-10.1-20130221-NIGHTLY-mako.zip
[01:46] <cdnl> awesomeWM is my favoritse
[01:46] <lira> and it is in downloads folder
[01:46] <frnv_> interesting and promising. Clearly a developer build though.
[01:46] <lira> trevorj:so how would i input that in terminal
[01:47] <Musashimaru> trevorj, :)
[01:47] <dutchhome> i use fedora 18 on triple headed system.. pretty nice, but it isn't happy when i undock & dock
[01:47] <dutchhome> on your multimonitor systems, are they just desktops?
[01:48] <tannerln7> hm so im getting one of the same errors as another guy did, i forgot his name.. but i do phablet-flash -b wait for everything to download and push, and then when it finaly reboots my phone it goes to the bootloader and terminal says your device must be device need to be unlocked for the following to work. its definitely unlocked...device is a nexus 4. im using a virtual machine with usb passthrogh.. any ideas??
[01:48] <chaosmaster> wgrant: it's done :) I used the same name as here
[01:48] <wgrant> chaosmaster: You'll need to tell me the URL
[01:49] <chaosmaster> wgrant: ah yes, that can help lol :p paste.ubuntu.com/1703217
[01:49] <trevorj> tannerln7: there are multiple usb devices
[01:49] <trevorj> tannerln7: make sure you get all of them
[01:49] <wgrant> chaosmaster: Oh
[01:49] <wgrant> chaosmaster: It's in VirtualBox?
[01:49] <tannerln7> what exactly do you mean?
[01:49] <chaosmaster> wgrant: yes :(
[01:50] <wgrant> chaosmaster: That's pretty critical :)
[01:50] <chaosmaster> wgrant: everything else works great
[01:50] <trevorj> lira: cd to the folder that file is in
[01:50] <trevorj> lira: adb push cm-blah.zip /sdcard/
[01:50] <chaosmaster> wgrant: oops, might have omitted that in my description ^^
 you said there are multiple usb device, what do you mean by this?
[01:51] <RiXtEr> did someone say they modded the zip to work with toro ?
[01:51] <trevorj> lira: adb push <source> <destination path>
[01:51] <trevorj> tannerln7: make sure in your vm you forwarded all of the usb devices provided by your phone
[01:51] <tannerln7> oh i see, wow i didnt even think of that haha let me go try that
[01:51] <wgrant> chaosmaster: You and tannerln7 probably have the same issue, in that you haven't forwarded all the USB devices
[01:52] <wgrant> As trevorj suggests
[01:52] <baronvonramen> can someone help me with reverting my phone back to android?
[01:52] <wgrant> baronvonramen: Have you followed the instructions on the install page?
[01:52] <baronvonramen> yes
[01:52] <baronvonramen> the problem might be really simple beacuse i'm so new to ubuntu
[01:52] <wgrant> What didn't work?
[01:53] <baronvonramen> when i run flash-all.sh it just says "<waiting for device>" indefinitely
[01:53] <chaosmaster> wgrant: well normally they should be, since my ubuntu can see and download info through the usb, right ?
[01:53] <trevorj> baronvonramen: try with sudo
[01:53] <trevorj> baronvonramen: replug your phone in to usb
[01:54] <wgrant> chaosmaster: adb uses extra devices, AFAIK. But I'm not quite sure.
[01:54] <baronvonramen> woooo it's doing stuff. thanks haha.
[01:54] <trevorj> baronvonramen: np
[01:54] <chaosmaster> wgrant: ah ok, do you have any idea how to forward all the USBs ?
[01:55] <vibhav> Okay, sochiw many of you here are developing apps?
[01:55] <vibhav> So hoe*
[01:55] <vibhav> How*
[01:55] <wgrant> chaosmaster: I'm not sure. You might have to google around to see how successful people have been with using adb from VirtualBox
[01:56] <trevorj> chaosmaster: select them all in the usb passthrough menu, they will be listed together and it should be clear which belong to your phone
[01:56] <trevorj> chaosmaster: across reboots of your phone or re-plugs you may have to re-pass them through again, depending on vm hypervisor used
[01:57] <Namidairo> i know adb works from virtualbox, but it's fiddly as hell
[01:57] <trevorj> Namidairo: agreed, it is
[01:57] <trevorj> Namidairo: I've had to use it for a friend to flash a phone before, horrid stuff
[01:57] <chaosmaster> trevorj: yeah that may have done it
[01:58] <trevorj> chaosmaster: you'll know it worked when 'sudo adb devices' lists your device.
[01:58] <chaosmaster> trevorj: I just added the Google Phone device to the USB filters in the VMWare settings (I hope that's what I had to do), but there still is no reaction from my terminal. Must I restart the process ?
[01:58] <chaosmaster> trevorj: It always has.
[01:58] <tannerln7> chaomaster trevorj yeah it seems like it may be working for me too, i booted into the bootloader and then added that to the filter and i think it is working
[01:58] <trevorj> tannerln7: yes, fastboot is a whole nother usb device id
[01:59] <trevorj> tannerln7: android is funny sometimes ;)
[01:59] <chaosmaster> trevorj: ah now i've lost it
[01:59] <tannerln7> haha yeah O_o
[02:00] <Midasu> Anybody installed ubuntu touch to any custom device?
[02:01] <tannerln7> just a question, could you not just flash the .img with the rootkit ?
[02:01] <wgrant> tannerln7: You can flash the various bits manually if you have another way to do it
[02:01] <trevorj> I still can't ping out via wifi, grr
[02:01] <wgrant> I'm sure someones written up instructions for that, or you can read the phablet-flash code pretty easily
[02:01] <chaosmaster> trevorj: wgrant : this is odd, I unplugged and plugged my device back in and it's carrying on lol
[02:02] <wgrant> chaosmaster: Heh
[02:02] <trevorj> wgrant: I was reading it, and I have to say phabletutils looks like a fantastic library to re-use ;)
[02:02] <tannerln7> wgrant: oh i see
[02:02] <fr0dzy> G'day all, just wondering if anyone knows if 3G data will work on nexus 7 with developer version of ubuntu touch
[02:02] <trevorj> chaosmaster: vbox is funky with usb passthrough
[02:02] <wgrant> fr0dzy: No, only WiFi data works today
[02:02] <trevorj> chaosmaster: so is vmware
[02:02] <chaosmaster> trevorj: yeah i can tell :D
[02:02] <fr0dzy> thanks. =)
[02:02] <trevorj> chaosmaster: I blame windows.
[02:03] <chaosmaster> trevorj: I blame my lack of knowledge
[02:03] <tannerln7> hahaha i agree with chaosmaster
[02:03] <Midasu> Any successful attempt to install on NOT NEXUS device?
[02:03] <trevorj> Midasu: someone earlier ported it to something
[02:04] <wgrant> The porting guide will be released tomorrow.
[02:04] <trevorj> Midasu: tomorrow they'll be going over porting I believe
[02:04] <moose> anyone have a reasonable estimate of the time it SHOULD take to push the zip to a nexus 7?
[02:04] <Midasu> Jast hope too on porting.
[02:04] <trevorj> moose: adb shell in and view the status of the push via ls -l in /sdcard
[02:04] <tannerln7> moose: it takes a very long time for me, im using vmware
[02:04] <trevorj> moose: long as the size is going up, you're good
[02:04] <wgrant> moose: adb did about 800KB/s for me, so quite a while
[02:05] <trevorj> adb really needs progress bars.
[02:05] <tannerln7> i vary anywhere form 1 to 900 kb/s haha
[02:05] <moose> thanks everyone, it pushed through... took 15 minutes
[02:05] <tannerln7> trecorj: amen
[02:06] <trevorj> Does anyone here have a Nexus 4 running this?
[02:06] <trevorj> Can they tell me if wifi is working for them?
[02:06] <tannerln7> if it works this time, i will
[02:06] <tannerln7> im still adb pushing
[02:06] <tannerln7> take an eternity
[02:06] <rsalveti> trevorj: yup, working fine
[02:06] <rsalveti> trevorj: what is your issue?
[02:06] <trevorj> rsalveti: I associate, and even get a DHCP address
[02:06] <trevorj> rsalveti: but I cannot ping out
[02:06] <trevorj> rsalveti: quite odd!
[02:07] <wgrant> Can you make TCP connections?
[02:07] <chaosmaster> wgrant: trevorj: wohoo i got it to work with VMWare ! it was tricky but it looks great, can't wait to try it out ! Thanks alot folks
[02:07] <trevorj> no, I can't even arp
[02:07] <rsalveti> trevorj: weird
[02:07] <rsalveti> trevorj: browser, anything? or same issue everywhere?
[02:07] <tannerln7> Chaosmaster: thats good news for me haha
[02:07] <trevorj> rsalveti: everywhere.
[02:07] <wgrant> trevorj: Can you still DHCP?
[02:07] <wgrant> Maybe the WiFi just drops quickly
[02:07] <trevorj> wgrant: no, was going to mention that
[02:08] <trevorj> oh this is fantastic, it uses upstart AND network-manager
[02:09] <trevorj> I love this already.
[02:09] <cdnl> quick question... where is the terminal?
[02:09] <wgrant> cdnl: You'll need to ssh in from another machine today
[02:09] <wgrant> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes#Access_the_device_over_SSH
[02:10] <trevorj> rsalveti, wgrant: yeah, it just drops quickly, I can arp for about 1 second before it drops
[02:10] <wgrant> Ugh
[02:11] <tannerln7> trevorj: could you try reflashing
[02:11] <lira> trovj: you still on here?
[02:11] <trevorj> tannerln7: I doubt that would fix this
[02:11] <trevorj> tannerln7: I've always had problems with this old development version of openwrt and my nexus 4
[02:11] <rsalveti> might be a firmware/driver issue related with the ap?
[02:12] <tannerln7> trevorj: thats weird, cant say the same here
[02:12] <trevorj> rsalveti: I believe it is, I just get further with Ubuntu than with Android ;)
[02:12] <rsalveti> trevorj: :-)
[02:12] <trevorj> it works fine on the later builds of openwrt on the same ubiquiti device at home
[02:12] <trevorj> I just need to upgrade my AP
[02:13] <Namidairo> does anyone else think the "we'll release a porting guide TOMORROW" count as some sort of challenge for you to port another device beforehand
[02:13] <kerpal> is it normal for android to take forever to boot after unlocking the nexus 10?
[02:13] <rsalveti> Namidairo: lol
[02:13] <Namidairo> probs not
[02:13] <rsalveti> :-)
[02:13] <trevorj> kerpal: yes
[02:13] <lira> trevorj: i wasnt able to push the file
[02:13] <kerpal> ok thanks trevorj
[02:13] <trevorj> kerpal: it's reformatting your data partition and such
[02:13] <moose> oh wow this is surprisingly polished overall
[02:14] <wastrel> is it still a zoo in here?
[02:14] <kerpal> i guess i assumed reformatting and partition 16gb would be quick, i mean it is flash memory isn't it?
[02:14] <trevorj> kerpal: not quick as you'd think, ;)
[02:14] <kostt> this is the error i get on my phone on fastboot mode when i run flash-all.sh ( fastboot command read error -2147483647 )
[02:14] <kostt> any help with that
[02:15] <tannerln7> IT WORKED!! haha
[02:15] <trevorj> kostt: have you done android development before? do you have an existing fastboot binary in your PATH?
[02:15] <tannerln7> stupid usb filtering was my problem for alllll this time haha
[02:15] <kostt> yes
[02:15] <soeca> hi all i've got a problem with  my Nexus 7 WiFi
[02:15] <trevorj> kostt: run 'which fastboot'
[02:15] <soeca> i follow the guide
[02:16] <soeca> and my terminal wrote: Once completed the device should reboot into Ubuntu
[02:16] <soeca> but nothing happened
[02:16] <trevorj> tannerln7: I'm quite impressed with it so far, for being so early in development
[02:17] <soeca> my devices was rebooted
[02:17] <wgrant> soeca: what does the tablet screen show? ClockWorkMod or the bootloader?
[02:17] <tysovsky> Hi, how long should the process of booting take?
[02:17] <soeca> clockworkmod
[02:17] <tannerln7> trevorj: i know i cant believe how smooth and enjoyable it is
[02:17] <kostt> with sudo permissions wont give me the error but phone keeps on loop
[02:17] <wgrant> soeca: What's the latest log entry at the bottom of CWM?
[02:17] <wgrant> There should be small text in the bottom left
[02:17] <tannerln7> trevorj: i cant wait to have this for  everyday use
[02:18] <tysovsky> For me it stucked on black screen after I flashe the 2 zips. Device is Nexus 4. Any advise?
[02:18] <soeca> now my device have black screen
[02:18] <juicyjones> tysovsky: did you try pressing the power button?
[02:18] <trevorj> tannerln7: I'm going to try it out as a daily driver, see how dev progresses
[02:18] <soeca> 20minutes ago was in clockworkmod
[02:19] <trevorj> tannerln7: but there is quite a bit missing, work will kill me if I stop answering emails ;)
[02:19] <pmcgowan> soeca: can you check the space on your sdcard, we have seen some issues with insufficient space
[02:19] <juicyjones> this isn't close to ready as a daily driver
[02:19] <tysovsky> Of course I did. It black screen right after google logo. I  still can enter fastboot.
[02:19] <lira> help plz i really want to get back to android
[02:19] <tannerln7> trevorj: haha i know exactly what you mean, i think im gonna try it for a few days. see if i can get used to the lack of buttons haha
[02:19] <juicyjones> tysovsky: I had to press the power key and the screen came one
[02:19] <soeca> how can i do?
[02:20] <pmcgowan> soeca:  adb shell df /sdcard/
[02:20] <soeca> ok
[02:20] <atheos_> tysovky I had the same issue and pressed power key and rebooted the system couple of times and it worked
[02:20] <trevorj> pmcgowan: does phablet-flash not check the retval of the push?
[02:20] <atheos_> dont know the reason behind it
[02:20] <atheos_> but that worked
[02:20] <pmcgowan> trevorj: good question, need to check on that
[02:21] <tysovsky> atheos_, did you flash through ubuntu or recovery?
[02:21] <pmcgowan> I think its after the push
[02:21] <soeca> Used 6.2GB Free:7.1GB
[02:21] <pmcgowan> that seems fine
[02:21] <atheos_> tysovsky : recovery twrp
[02:21] <soeca> Blksize:4096
[02:22] <pmcgowan> soeca: what device is it?
[02:22] <tysovsky> Sould any bootanimation be displayed?
[02:22] <soeca> nexus 7 16GB WiFi(not 3G)
[02:22] <atheos_> tysovsky : no
[02:22] <atheos_> I didnt see any
[02:22] <rsalveti> soeca: can you get me your 'adb logcat'?
[02:22] <atheos_> it just booted to lock screen
[02:23] <tannerln7> trevorj: wifi is working great for me
[02:24] <evets> h'lro
[02:24] <Namidairo> hmm
[02:24] <soeca> you can find here: http://pastebin.com/L629Egc8
[02:24] <tysovsky> Hm, it still doesn't work for me, I rebooted it 4 times already.
[02:24] <JHOSMAN> I have a question, I know the Ubuntu Phone rom is developed for nexus devices, my question is, I want to test the ROM on a Motorola Defy, in case the installation does not succeed, I can make the recueración (RDS Lite - Windows) with the power button and Vol +
[02:24] <Namidairo> i don't think I actually have to do any work to port my device
[02:25] <Namidairo> :S
[02:25] <juicyjones> JHOSMAN: i didn't see a question
[02:26] <JHOSMAN> juicyjones: The question is whether it is possible to perform recovery JB Android again (which is what I have now) know how to make the recovery, but not Ubuntu Phone makes your phone. (Motorola Defy)
[02:27] <pmcgowan> JHOSMAN: the install is not going to work
[02:27] <juicyjones> JHOSMAN: your install is not going to work, but yet it's easy to get back to android. just don't install ubuntu's recovery, use TWRP
[02:27] <tysovsky> Is there any difference between flashing it through recovery and through ubuntu?
[02:27] <juicyjones> tysovsky: I used TWRP
[02:27] <JHOSMAN> pmcgowan: This means that it will never rise Phone ROM Ubuntu?
[02:27] <trevorj> tanuk: yeah I just got my wifi working, just upgraded openwrt to the version I know works at home
[02:27] <tysovsky> What's your device
[02:28] <juicyjones> tysovsky: N7 and Gnex
[02:28] <soeca> can i reboot my device???
[02:28] <rsalveti> soeca: from your logcat it means it didn't even start ubuntu
[02:28] <rsalveti> soeca: can you run adb shell and check what you have at your /data
[02:28] <rsalveti> ?
[02:28] <rsalveti> you should have a /data/ubuntu
[02:28] <pmcgowan> JHOSMAN: not sure I understand that, but the images work for specific devices, and we hope to see more devices supproted soon
[02:28] <JHOSMAN> juicyjones: that is TWRP?
[02:28] <humdar> how do i reboot into recovery?
[02:29] <tysovsky> I have nexus 4 and all I have after flashing 2 zips is black screen right after google logo.
[02:29] <rsalveti> humdar: either adb reboot recovery or you'll need to find your device specific for it
[02:29] <rsalveti> like starting with volume down pressed
[02:29] <humdar> adb doesnt see my device, nor do the button combos work
[02:29] <trevorj> So, does phablet-flash just constantly redownload the same files?
[02:30] <juicyjones> JHOSMAN: I have a Nexus 7 and a Galaxy Nexus, both have TWRP recovery installed instead of Ubuntu's. I didn't bother installing Ubuntu's recovery because I like TWRP
[02:30] <trevorj> ie, no version checking to see if you already are up to date locally?
[02:30] <rsalveti> humdar: which device?
[02:30] <pmcgowan> trevorj: it will only download them once
[02:30] <JHOSMAN> pmcgowan: If I know that, I just want to try the Rom on my Motorola Defy and validate if it works now or not ... question why it is possible again to Android recovery with this method? http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7008/6691386809_90995e49c6.jpg
[02:30] <humdar> nexus 4
[02:30] <rsalveti> trevorj: it should check the files first
[02:30] <wastrel> win 7
[02:30] <juicyjones> JHOSMAN: the rom will not work on your defy.
[02:30] <RiXtEr> trevorj, looking at the pythong script, it does a check online for new versions.
[02:30] <soeca> rsalveti: there isn't ubuntu folder
[02:30] <trevorj> rsalveti, pmcgowan: mine did not
[02:30] <JHOSMAN> juicyjones: =(
[02:30] <RiXtEr> trevorj, apparently they are already at version 95
[02:31] <trevorj> RiXtEr: oh, is that newer than what I have?
[02:31] <trevorj> RiXtEr: damn
[02:31] <trevorj> RiXtEr: I don't even know where to look for the build id
[02:31] <pmcgowan> 95 is the only version posted
[02:31] <rsalveti> soeca: then it failed to install the ubuntu image
[02:31] <RiXtEr> trevorj, yeah
[02:31] <rsalveti> soeca: probably lack of disk space or similar
[02:31] <RiXtEr> trevorj, it uses the version number to make the directory to save the files to ...
[02:31] <soeca> so, now???
[02:31] <trevorj> pmcgowan: yeah, it's re-downloading 95 again
[02:31] <JHOSMAN> juicyjones: Why not work? Simply not installed? or will I have hardware compatibility issues.
[02:31] <trevorj> RiXtEr: ^
[02:32] <pmcgowan> trevorj: it should not, it checks, says nothing to download, the flashes
[02:32] <juicyjones> JHOSMAN: read through the documentation. they only have it working on four devices.
[02:32] <rsalveti> soeca: can you check if you have the ubuntu zip file at /sdcard/0/quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip ?
[02:32] <RiXtEr> trevorj, it shouldn't redownload unless the md5sums fail.
[02:32] <trevorj> pmcgowan: does it download img files for -b and zips after that?
[02:32] <RiXtEr> or the files don't exist.
[02:32] <trevorj> or do the zips contain the img files?
[02:32] <JHOSMAN> juicyjones: ok =(
[02:32] <pmcgowan> trevorj: it checks all the files each time
[02:33] <rsalveti> soeca: we can try via recovery to see what happens, otherwise I'd suggest you to format your /data partition at recovery
[02:33] <rsalveti> and flash it again
[02:33] <tysovsky> Wait, how much disk space does it need to install?
[02:33] <pmcgowan> the phablet zip is the unbuntu file system
[02:33] <rsalveti> lemme check
[02:33] <Midasu> At least 2 Gb.
[02:33] <trevorj> RiXtEr: the img files exist
[02:33] <humdar> how do i reboot into either bootloader or recovery?
[02:33] <trevorj> RiXtEr: literally just bootstrapped ;)
[02:33] <soeca> i found the zip
[02:34] <rsalveti> in total I'd recommend at least 2 gb
[02:34] <tysovsky> Oops, that's probably my mistake. I only had 1.2GB, That's why it didn't boot.
[02:34] <rsalveti> soeca: how much free space do you have at your /data now?
[02:34] <rsalveti> adb shell df
[02:34] <pmcgowan> adb shell df /sdcard/
[02:34] <pmcgowan> ?
[02:34] <trevorj> I suppose I'll delve deeper into phablet-flash and figure out why it's re-downloading
[02:35] <pmcgowan> trevorj: sorry it does not for me
[02:35] <pmcgowan> have not heard that
[02:35] <dave90> I cannot download the factory image for nexus 4. It keeps failing because of network error.
[02:35] <RiXtEr> trevorj, mine just resumed the files if they weren't complete.
[02:36] <trevorj> I'm downloading quantal-preinstalled-armel+mako.zip now instead of quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip
[02:36] <humdar> how do i reboot into either bootloader or recovery?
[02:36] <soeca> rsalveti: I've got 7.1GB
[02:36] <trevorj> oddness, I'll delve into it
[02:36] <pmcgowan> trevorj: you mean mako.img
[02:37] <juicyjones> humdar: which device?
[02:37] <soeca> if is necessary there is no problem to format my data partition
[02:37] <rsalveti> soeca: do me a test, adb reboot recovery
[02:37] <pmcgowan> rsalveti: ^^
[02:37] <humdar> nexus 4
[02:37] <rsalveti> soeca: then try to install the zip file by hand
[02:37] <humdar> adb doesnt see my device
[02:37] <rsalveti> soeca: the quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip
[02:37] <juicyjones> humdar: hold down the down volume key while you hold the power key. when you see bootloader, release power first
[02:38] <rsalveti> soeca: that should take at least 1-2 minutes
[02:38] <rsalveti> if not something else went wrong
[02:38] <soeca> ok i try, than's a lot!!!
[02:38] <pmcgowan> humdar: need to be unlocked, usb debugging enabled, good cable, working usb port on laptop
[02:38] <vanhoof> humdar: have you enabled developer mode?
[02:39] <humdar> i've already installed ubuntu touch, i want to go back to android
[02:39] <rsalveti> trevorj: vol down + vol up + power got me to bootloader at nexus 4
[02:39] <dave90> I have ubuntu installed and I can access CWM recovery still. Can I install an Android ROM from recovery with ubuntu phone being my current OS?
[02:39] <rsalveti> dave90: yes
[02:39] <rsalveti> dave90: android only cares about /system
[02:39] <rsalveti> and we install everything under /data/ubuntu
[02:39] <Aotom> I wish it didn't have all the extra crap added in, like the fake contacts and events
[02:39] <dave90> rsalveti: ty
[02:39] <rsalveti> so as long you don't erase that, you'll still have the ubuntu files
[02:40] <trevorj> rsalveti: is this so you can easily load side-by-side?
[02:40] <rsalveti> dave90: you can also get back to ubuntu by just flashing the android part later
[02:40] <trevorj> rsalveti: hence 'ubuntu on android' ?
[02:40] <trevorj> not to mention size restrictions
[02:40] <dave90> can I make a CWM backup of Ubuntu and successfully restore it later?
[02:40] <rsalveti> trevorj: the main thing is to take usage of the binaries we have available from android
[02:40] <rsalveti> so we could quickly use the device
[02:40] <pmcgowan> Aotom: see the release notes for how to delete that "crap"
[02:41] <vanhoof> Aotom: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes#Sample_content
[02:41] <trevorj> rsalveti: and android's hard coded paths? ;)
[02:41] <pmcgowan> we just wanted folks to get the UI
[02:41] <vanhoof> dave90: yes, have done so many times
[02:41] <mimaketi> awesome so far
[02:41] <vanhoof> dave90: download it, then adb push the nandroid to /sdcard, adb reboot-recovery, install the zip you pushed
[02:41] <trevorj> rsalveti: I love how adbd hard coded the path for sh
[02:41] <Boogerlip> help I just bricked my Note trying to flash this
[02:42] <Boogerlip> ok not really
[02:42] <Boogerlip> :P
[02:42] <pmcgowan> lol
[02:42] <Midasu> Anybody can send me dump of installed ubuntu? I want try in on my Ainol Hero.
[02:42] <dave90> vanhoof: ty
[02:42] <pmcgowan> Boogerlip: make it work!
[02:42] <trevorj> Midasu: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/quantal/mwc-demo/
[02:42] <Boogerlip> :)
[02:43] <rsalveti> trevorj: :-)
[02:43] <hereforbeer> Possible to develop for this on a Mac?
[02:43] <Midasu> trevorj: Dump... not rom. Rom I can't install...
[02:43] <trevorj> Midasu: just extract it
[02:43] <rsalveti> Midasu: see http://ubuntuonair.com/
[02:43] <rsalveti> we'll be discussing this tomorrow
[02:43] <rsalveti> we'll have a guide and such
[02:44] <rsalveti> for people to port to different devices
[02:44] <rsalveti> but the ubuntu image is the same one for all devices we have
[02:44] <juicyjones> Midasu: i won't work
[02:45] <juicyjones> hereforbeer: i'm on a mac, I hope so :)
[02:45] <Midasu> rsalveti: Thx, will wait.
[02:45] <soeca> finally!!!Thank's rsalveti!!!
[02:45] <hereforbeer> juicyjones: Will try to get something running today. I'm flashing right now
[02:46] <trevorj> Midasu: you can loop mount it if it's a standard block based filesystem
[02:46] <trevorj> Midasu: otherwise if it's something odd like yaffs you can use a ram based mmc emulation
[02:47] <juicyjones> I found it much easier to flash on my mac than using their tool.
[02:47] <Boogerlip> OK I am flashing this now, it is in recovery doing it's thing and looks to be stuck at around 75% does this sound about right?
[02:47] <Namidairo> rsalveti: looks pretty easy to port a device from cm-10.1 -> ubuntu touch though
[02:47] <juicyjones> but they should have included a quick guide for those who don't know
[02:47] <RiXtEr> Is bootstrapping necessary even if you already have root/twrp ?
[02:47] <vanhoof> Boogerlip: wait it out
[02:47] <Boogerlip> I figured as much
[02:47] <vanhoof> Boogerlip: the portion ~70-80% takes a bit
[02:48] <juicyjones> RiXtEr: just do everything except flash recovery
[02:48] <Boogerlip> thanks vanhoof
[02:48] <rsalveti> Namidairo: yup
[02:48] <juicyjones> RiXtEr: I flashed boot and sideloaded
[02:48] <vanhoof> Boogerlip: expect 10 mins or so
[02:48] <Boogerlip> I take it I can flash  custom recovery again once it is done correct?
[02:48] <juicyjones> Boogerlip: you don't even have to flash their recovery at all
[02:49] <Boogerlip> yeah too late
[02:49] <Boogerlip> :P
[02:49] <juicyjones> Boogerlip: but yes you can
[02:49] <Craighton> How long does it usually hang at pushing the zip to the nexus 7?
[02:49] <wgrant> Craighton: 10-20 minutes
[02:49] <RiXtEr> juicyjones, so I have flashed through twrp and waited 10 mins at the black screen... nothing, however, I did go and change maguro to toro on the zip (and some of the files in it)
[02:49] <Craighton> Ok i thought so.
[02:49] <juicyjones> RiXtEr: when mine started up it needed me to press the power key once to turn it on for some reason
[02:50] <RiXtEr> juicyjones, so like you see google, then power ?
[02:50] <juicyjones> RiXtEr: well I saw google. it was black for about 60 seconds and I was like, huh? then pressed power and it turned on
[02:50] <RiXtEr> juicyjones, cool, will try thanks!
[02:51]  * sgtkwol really wishes they did a tethered option for the early release, similar to open webos port
[02:51] <Midasu> trevorj: I try install it over sd-card. But it was a error in assert(getprop("ro.product.device"). Then i delete that string. But this is onliy E:Error in '/sdcard/quantal-preinstalled-armel+manta.zip' (Status 0). I don't know what's do next...
[02:52] <trevorj> rsalveti: I just realized you're a dev. I see you in my feed.
[02:52] <trevorj> rsalveti: Kudos.
[02:52] <Ursinha> Midasu, I got that error because the recovery I had installed was incompatible with my device
[02:53] <pmcgowan> sgtkwol: what did you want?
[02:53] <Ursinha> I flashed the correct recovery as said in its cyanogenmod wiki page and it worked fine
[02:53] <Midasu> Ursinha: Ok, that's way not work too...
[02:53] <rsalveti> Midasu: sorry, which device
[02:53] <rsalveti> trevorj: :-)
[02:54] <patelj27b> Has anyone noticed the keyboard doesn't have a comma?
[02:54] <Midasu> rsalveti: Ainol Novo 10 Hero
[02:54] <patelj27b> It has a forward slash instead
[02:54] <sgtkwol> pmcgowan webos ports has it as an almost dual boot, you put ext2 image on your phone and fastboot into it, stays in webos until reboot
[02:54] <Guest73409> im stuck on a black screen after install
[02:54] <soeca> sorry but where i find settings??
[02:55] <rsalveti> Midasu: is it supported by CM 10.1?
[02:55] <Guest82282> Any way to flash ubuntu phone from osx? i.e. using adb
[02:55] <Midasu> rsalveti: Yes, it's my current firmware.
[02:55] <Namidairo> trevorj: you didn't notice his name ALL OVER the gitweb instance?
[02:55] <trevorj> Namidairo: dude I'm still fetching
[02:55] <trevorj> Namidairo: ;)
[02:55] <rsalveti> Midasu: so we might be able to help you tomorrow to get it going with your device
[02:56] <rsalveti> I'm just finishing the guide now
[02:56] <soeca> i must set date and clock
[02:56] <patelj27b> Is there any way to fix the keyboard?
[02:56] <pmcgowan> soeca: you are up, great
[02:56] <Namidairo> feel free to release a draft before though :)
[02:56] <vanhoof> Guest82282: what device and how much space do have free on /sdcard (adb shell df /sdcard)
[02:57] <pmcgowan> soeca: timezone settings is not there but you can set it from your ubuntu system
[02:57] <Guest82282> Galaxy nexus... let me check on space
[02:57] <vanhoof> soeca: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes#Timezone
[02:57] <dmj_nova> is there force landscape on the nexus 7?
[02:57] <Guest82282> Mind you, there's no sdcard
[02:57] <vanhoof> Guest82282: right but its still mapped to /data
[02:57] <sgtkwol> also, iPhone user agent for browser makes me sad
[02:57] <Namidairo> /sdcard is the mount for the internal storage on the galaxy nexus
[02:58] <rsalveti> Guest73409: hey, device?
[02:58] <sephir0m> anyone could help me with this error sudo apt-get install phablet-tools android-tools-adb android-tools-fastboot Leyendo listas de paquetes... Hecho Creando árbol de dependencias        Leyendo la información de estado... Hecho E: No se ha podido localizar el paquete phablet-tools E: No se ha podido localizar el paquete android-tools-adb E: No se ha podido localizar el paquete android-tools-fastboot
[02:58] <juicyjones> Guest82282: http://autonome.wordpress.com/2013/02/21/installing-ubuntu-phone-demo-on-galaxy-nexus-from-mac-os-x/
[02:58] <lulz17738294> when are they going to have some sort of app market set up?
[02:58] <Guest73409> nexus 10
[02:58] <juicyjones> Guest82282: OS X with adb and fastboot. easy
[02:58] <Ursinha> sephir0m, did you add the ppa first?
[02:58] <sephir0m> yes
[02:58] <Ursinha> apt-get update?
[02:58] <Ursinha> :)
[02:58] <patelj27b> Anyone seeing my messages?
[02:58] <soeca> is there any terminal??
[02:58] <Ursinha> patelj27b, yes
[02:58] <Guest82282> Great, thanks juicyjones
[02:58] <pmcgowan> soeca: connect via ssh
[02:59] <patelj27b> Ursinha, does anyone else see that issue with the keyboard?
[02:59] <pmcgowan> soeca: or you can adb shell the ubuntu_chroot shell but not as complete
[02:59] <sephir0m> ore info: https://launchpad.net/~phablet-team/+archive/tools Press [ENTER] to continue or ctrl-c to cancel adding it  gpg: anillo «/tmp/tmp3iNcQI/secring.gpg» creado gpg: anillo «/tmp/tmp3iNcQI/pubring.gpg» creado gpg: solicitando clave 5E51A24C de hkp servidor keyserver.ubuntu.com gpg: /tmp/tmp3iNcQI/trustdb.gpg: se ha creado base de datos de confianza gpg: clave 5E51A24C: clave pública "Launchpad PPA for Ubuntu Phable
[02:59] <pmcgowan> patelj27b: yes
[02:59] <sephir0m> then
[02:59] <Ursinha> patelj27b, the comma thing?
[02:59] <soeca> oook!!!
[02:59] <juicyjones> Guest82282: easier than the official install i think
[02:59] <patelj27b> Yes
[02:59] <Ursinha> patelj27b, if so yes, there's a bug filed for that :)
[02:59] <pmcgowan> patelj27b: what was your quesitona bout the keyboard?
[03:00] <pmcgowan> right bug filed
[03:00] <patelj27b> keyboard not having a comma
[03:00] <rsalveti> yeah, annoying
[03:00] <Namidairo> rsalveti: does phablet-flash just dl and sideload the zips
[03:00] <patelj27b> It is, especially when your wireless network password contains a comma :-)
[03:00] <Guest82282> sweet
[03:00] <Namidairo> *adb sideload
[03:00] <rsalveti> Namidairo: not by default
[03:01] <rsalveti> you could use it though
[03:01] <Ursinha> bug 1131494
[03:01] <pmcgowan> patelj27b: you can use the phablet-setup-network script
[03:01] <Namidairo> commas are for cowards!
[03:02] <cha> (:
[03:02] <pmcgowan> dmj_nova: nexus 7 in portrait is an issue to resolve soon
[03:02] <Lightning_> Congrats on the release, guys
[03:02] <soeca> How can install applications???I go in Apps--->Available for download --->click on Youtube(for example) but nothing happen
[03:02] <cha> hey guys i think i accidentally installed the normal ubuntu on mine
[03:02] <cha> now i have no keyboard so i cant type
[03:03] <cha> but it wants me to put my username in and stuff
[03:03] <pmcgowan> cha on what?
[03:03] <cha> nexus 7
[03:03] <cha> i followed these directions
[03:03] <trevorj> soeca: pre-alpha, does not exist yet ;)
[03:03] <OctoberRiot> hi all
[03:03] <cha> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Installation
[03:03] <Lightning_> Sorry to bother, but is there any indication of a toro build for the Galaxy Nexus on Verizon?
[03:03] <cha> i have no idea what it's asking me to do about the keyboard
[03:03] <pmcgowan> soeca: there are no apps to download yet, the object of this is to help make some, per the SDK release
[03:04] <cha> if you look under "first boot"
[03:04] <pmcgowan> cha yes you have the ubuntu desktop install
[03:04] <cha> those directions make no sense
[03:04] <cha> =(
[03:04] <pmcgowan> cha not the touch preview
[03:04] <cha> well i dont understand the touch preview directions
[03:04] <pmcgowan> cha you will need to revert to android then follow the install instaructions
[03:04] <cha> aw
[03:04] <cha> ok thanks
[03:04] <jbooth> Anyone else actually playing with writing applications and using the QML sensors? Do they work for you?
[03:05] <vanhoof> cha: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[03:05] <cha> i cant beleive i installed the wrong one
[03:05] <soeca> what's the programming language?
[03:05] <Mikel> I am trying to install Touch ubuntu on my nexus 7 which already has ubuntu phone installed. When I try to install it my device is not found.
[03:05] <Tito0096> Hello all
[03:06] <dharber> hello
[03:06] <cha> thank you vanhoof
[03:06] <cha> can you tell me how to do this
[03:06] <rsalveti> Mikel: that's because ubuntu doesn't have adb running by default there
[03:06] <cha> "" adding the following custom source list entry ""
[03:06] <rsalveti> we have a guide, one sec
[03:06] <Mikel> THanks!
[03:06] <Sriyegna> Hi. I just installed the ubuntu build. Now I'm thinking of reverting back to android, but I cannot access my device (currently running ubuntu) through adb. Any help?
[03:07] <OctoberRiot> ok, so those directions are more specifically going from ubuntu pc to device. im on win 8 with a nex7. the run.bat only formatted my device and removed my recovery. i took in upon myself to just use fastboot and flash the system and userdata, but still nothing other than android. i noticed, my 16gbs is now down to like 7 though
[03:07] <rsalveti> Mikel: http://sergiusens.github.com/posts/installing-ubuntu-touch-preview-on-the-nexus-7-with-ubuntu-on-it.html
[03:07] <Mikel> Awesome! Thanks man.
[03:07] <JoinTheRealms> ADB is working on ubuntu tho? , anyone seen the grub2 port to arm? could this be used to dual boot android/ubuntu?
[03:08] <Sriyegna> If I try "adb devices", it doesnt recognize my device.
[03:08] <Tito0096> Sweet this just saved me some time
[03:08] <Tito0096> Has anyone done this method of installing
[03:08] <Tito0096> http://lifehacker.com/5986004/?post=57669497
[03:08] <Sriyegna> If you reddit, i remember reading about nexus 7's that can dual boot Ubuntu and an android rom.
[03:08] <trevorj> JoinTheRealms: kexec has been used in the past, but grub would be fantastic.
[03:08] <Tito0096> It even has a dualboot solution
[03:08] <Tito0096> which is strange
[03:09] <JoinTheRealms> on the tf101 our dual boot requires flashing over the recovery but proper dualboot would be amazing, not to mention if burg was ported also
[03:09] <Lightning_> Is there a 'toro' build for Verizon's GNex by any chance, or will we need to wait for someone to build it?
[03:10] <Sriyegna> Has anyone else encountered the issue where they can't ADB their device?
[03:10] <Aotom> Has anybody managed to import contacts into the phone yet?
[03:10] <sgtkwol> Lightning_ not yet
[03:10] <Tito0096> I think the dual boot method that is easiest is flashing to the recovery
[03:10] <Aotom> I'm having issues, attempting to follow the instructions on the release notes
[03:10] <Aotom> But I'm terrible with CSV
[03:10] <Lightning_> sgtkwol: Thanks! Any ETA?
[03:11] <Lightning_> (and yes, I know asking for dates is aweful. sorry. D: )
[03:11] <kerpal> i unlocked my nexus 10 but i still cant even get it to boot back into android to flash it, it's taking forever
[03:11] <Tito0096> https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg00211.html
[03:11] <Boogerlip> excellent job devs
[03:11] <Tito0096> anyone try that?
[03:11] <Boogerlip> can't wait to see the final product
[03:12] <Tito0096> When you flash through the official method through ubuntu does it change the bootloader aswell?
[03:12] <Boogerlip> good night
[03:12] <juicyjones> Tito0096: yes
[03:12] <Tito0096> or does this work around the android bootloader
[03:12] <Tito0096> ah i see
[03:12] <sgtkwol> Lightning_ I'm not personally working on it, but there's going to be info for porting, tomorrow, I would imagine it won't take long
[03:12] <dhruvsatra> anyone there?
[03:12] <Tito0096> so flashing it this way - https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg00211.html maintains the android bootloader setup? or same thing as ubuntu
[03:12] <Lightning_> sgtkwol: Thanks again, appreciate it!
[03:12] <dhruvsatra> how to multitask?
[03:13] <juicyjones> dhruvsatra: swipe from the right side
[03:13] <mimaketi> Aotom: I tried adding my contacts, but the python script fails every time
[03:13] <dhruvsatra> juicyjjones thanks bro
[03:13] <mimaketi> Aotom: Array index out of bounds
[03:14] <dhruvsatra> can anyone give me google docs link for galaxy nexus gsm ubuntu zip
[03:14] <pmcgowan> mimaketi: can you log a bug against the phablet-tools
[03:14] <Aotom> mimaketi: Damn.
[03:14] <Aotom> mimaketi: I get Key Error: poBox
[03:14] <fourfthawaiian> bit quieter in here than it was earlier? :)
[03:14] <Yugge> mimaketi: make sure you haven't accidentally left a newline at the end
[03:14] <fourfthawaiian> can anyone tell me about how long it should take to flash the image on a nexus 7 using a flashboot command?
[03:15] <fourfthawaiian> It doesn't give any output, so it makes me a tad nervous
[03:15] <vanhoof> fourfthawaiian: which?
[03:15] <fourfthawaiian> I'm flashing quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip  on a nexus 7 via flashboot
[03:15] <twtww> lag
[03:15] <fourfthawaiian> it's been 10 minutes or more now
[03:15] <sephir0m> anyone could helpme with this error when made the update apperars this error                                      W: Imposible obtener http://ppa.launchpad.net/phablet-team/tools/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found  W: Imposible obtener http://ppa.launchpad.net/phablet-team/tools/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found, but if you look in the web direcction it looks in the director
[03:15] <fourfthawaiian> which is OK, I'm just wondering how long I should expect
[03:15] <_5m0k3> I was hoping adding launcher.force_enable_rotation=true to local.prop on grouper would enable landscape.  Shame it's not that easy
[03:15] <vanhoof> fourfthawaiian: will take a bit, you're sending quite a bit of data, 10-15 mins or so
[03:16] <fourfthawaiian> the file is already sent over, so I'm loading it from the device
[03:16] <fourfthawaiian> oh, wait
[03:16] <vanhoof> fourfthawaiian: you can adb shell ls /sdcard to check it out to make sure its progressing
[03:16] <fourfthawaiian> no, I see what you're saying
[03:16] <fourfthawaiian> rgr that
[03:16] <Aotom> If anyone has had their csv import for contacts work can you post a template for me to follow?
[03:16] <fourfthawaiian> I didn't think you could ADB shell in fastboot mode
[03:16] <_5m0k3> Also, the apps I push to device from qt creator don't show up in running on apps lens.  but they're open in ps
[03:17] <vanhoof> fourfthawaiian: ah right, if you're using fastboot only then you'll have to wait it out :)
[03:17] <fourfthawaiian> righto :)
[03:17] <fourfthawaiian> VERY NERVOUS
[03:17] <fourfthawaiian> lol
[03:17] <fourfthawaiian> tyvm for the advice
[03:17] <vanhoof> fourfthawaiian: also on first boot unpacking that file will take a bit too
[03:17] <fourfthawaiian> ah, right on
[03:17] <fourfthawaiian> ty again
[03:17] <Tito0096> This makes me want to make a 2nd partition for ubuntu...
[03:17] <vanhoof> fourfthawaiian: ~70-80%
[03:17] <vanhoof> you'll see a pause for a bit
[03:18] <mimaketi> Yugge: There was a newline at the end. Thanks, i'll test that out tomorrow
[03:18] <nex10> I unlocked it and restarted it and now it is taking forever to load
[03:18] <fourfthawaiian> cool
[03:18] <fourfthawaiian> very much appreciated
[03:18] <nex10> +-14
[03:18] <nex10> +
[03:19] <nex10> All i have done so far is unlock it and it just hangs on the loading screen
[03:19] <fourfthawaiian> fastboot command needs a -vvvvv switch ;)
[03:20] <kerpal> yeah it'd be nice if there was some kind of output while it was booting so you would know it's not stuck
[03:20] <csaldias> yeah
[03:20] <nex10> how long should it take
[03:20] <kerpal> good question
[03:21] <vanhoof> nex10: what phase of the process are you in?
[03:22] <nex10> I unlocked my nexus 10 and then went to start android again and stuck at loading screen
[03:22] <csaldias> weird
[03:23] <pmcgowan> not the first to say that, try to reboot I guess
[03:23] <nex10> I tried turning it off and back on again
[03:23] <rsalveti> nex10: might me an issue with the unlock
[03:24] <daniel6644> What does everyone think of this preview release... I think there is huge amounts of work to be done in optimisaiton and speed but its looking good
[03:24] <rsalveti> sometimes it breaks the system depending on the customizations you had before
[03:24] <csaldias> I think the same
[03:24] <Mikel> How long does it take to "download boot.img"? (sudo fastboot boot quantal-preinstalled-recovery-armel+grouper.img) it's  been a good 5 minutes
[03:24] <rsalveti> nex10: mind flashing the google stock image again?
[03:24] <nex10> how
[03:24] <kerpal> yeah how do you do that, im having the same problem with a nexus 10
[03:24] <kerpal> i downloaded the image
[03:24] <rsalveti> nex10: https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
[03:25] <kerpal> its like a tar zip file
[03:25] <rsalveti> nex10: then start with bootloader, run sudo ./flash-all.sh and start the flashing process for ubuntu
[03:26] <nex10> ok
[03:26] <kerpal> why do you need to flash the stock image first, why not just flash directly from the boot loader?
[03:27] <rsalveti> Mikel: that's weird, might rebooting and going to bootloader again
[03:27] <rsalveti> Mikel: what are you using as your host system?
[03:28] <rsalveti> kerpal: you can, it'll just take a few more steps
[03:28] <Aers> Hi all, just one question, is it possible to install ubuntu for phone on my Nexus 4 if i don't have Ubuntu on my desktop PC ?
[03:28] <rsalveti> and using stock is always the safe option, that's why we recommend it
[03:28] <Potoco1> So, Hello
[03:28] <Supaphreek> I'm trying to restore android, but when I try to adb reboot-bootloader, it doesn't find the device. (It is on, at the home screen, and connected to my computer)
[03:28] <Mikel> rsalveti: Ubuntu.. If that's what you're asking. I'm new to linux.
[03:28] <kerpal> oh ok, i'll try that then
[03:28] <rsalveti> Mikel: right, then it should have worked =\, try rebooting and calling that command again
[03:29] <rsalveti> not your host, your device :-)
[03:29] <pmcgowan> Aers: folks are working on windows and macos installs
[03:29] <Mikel> Nexus 7
[03:30] <Aers> pmcgowan: ok thanks
[03:30] <rsalveti> kerpal: at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/quantal/mwc-demo/ you can find the *.img files
[03:30] <rsalveti> these can be flashed with fastboot
[03:30] <rsalveti> just the ubuntu one that needs to be flashed via recovery
[03:30] <Mikel> Done!
[03:31] <vanhoof> \o/
[03:31] <Supaphreek> When the device is in the Ubuntu OS. How do I get to my bootloader without using ADB?
[03:32] <juicyjones> Easy Guide to installing Ubuntu Touch on Mac OS: http://autonome.wordpress.com/2013/02/21/installing-ubuntu-phone-demo-on-galaxy-nexus-from-mac-os-x/
[03:32] <MercuryMan> How do I setup a user on my freshly flashed nexus 7
[03:33] <Supaphreek> From what I've read on the release notes. That's not possible.
[03:33] <Supaphreek> "The images have a pre-configured user account called “phablet”, with the account password also set to “phablet”. There is a set of default sample accounts for the tablet, the login passwords are set to the first name in lowercase. These are for demonstration and do not affect the user session."
[03:34] <MercuryMan> This seems extremely useless at this point
[03:34] <MercuryMan> I can't even seem to set the clock
[03:34] <Supaphreek> MercuryMan: Haha. I had the same realization about half an hour ago. Im having trouble reverting back.
[03:35] <pmcgowan> MercuryMan: this is for development purposes
[03:35] <Supaphreek> Although I suppose it's just a preview. Similar to the Win8 consumer preview.
[03:35] <pmcgowan> but developer preview, not consumer, this is an open source project
[03:35] <MercuryMan> No I ran win8 preview and it was usable
[03:36] <pmcgowan> we want to rlease early to get contribiution and feedback
[03:36] <MercuryMan> The previously available download from Ubuntu which put a standard desktop on it, was WAY more usefull
[03:37] <satbir7> Hello all
[03:37] <rodolfo_info> hi, guys. I've just installed the ubuntu phone on my galaxy nexus, and on the reboot to start ubuntu, appears a "Error!" screen
[03:37] <rsalveti> again, this is a developer preview, we decided to open source it from start
[03:37] <rsalveti> so that's the side effect, not everything is finished
[03:37] <Supaphreek> MercuryMan : Yeah, but that was already fully developed.
[03:37] <satbir7> has anyone Flashed ubuntu phone on Nexus 4?
[03:37] <kerpal> weird i have adb installed but runadb isn't an available command
[03:37] <rsalveti> we could keep it closed til it would be done
[03:37] <Supaphreek> Satbir7 : I have.
[03:37] <satbir7> how did it go?
[03:37] <rsalveti> but we decided to open it up and invite developers by having a fully open source project
[03:37] <rsalveti> how cool is that? :-)
[03:37] <MercuryMan> I think you did it too soon.
[03:38] <Supaphreek> satbir7 : I'm stuck at a point where I've installed Ubuntu, realized I want to go back, but can't access adb to revert. So I'm stuck.
[03:38] <rsalveti> if we do it too soon people complain
[03:38] <Sarvatt> you flashed it too soon and ignored the warnings :)
[03:38] <rsalveti> if we do it too late people will complain as well
[03:38] <rsalveti> lol
[03:38] <satbir7> supahreek: oh no
[03:38] <rsalveti> :-)
[03:38] <ruser_> has anyone had any issues trying to install? i cannot get it loaded for the life of me
[03:38] <kerpal> wait i think i'm being dumb, when the guide says run, it means type this command... lol
[03:38] <satbir7> supaphreek: that does not seem very fun filled..
[03:39] <Supaphreek> Haha yeah. Hopefully I'll find a way out.
[03:39] <satbir7> cant  you flash the stock image?
[03:39] <Supaphreek> Satbir7 : I definitely love the new look and general usage of the OS though. I can't wait till it's fully developed.
[03:39] <satbir7> were you on ubuntu or a windows machine?
[03:39] <ruser_> ubuntu
[03:39] <Supaphreek> Ubuntu.
[03:39] <rodolfo_info> hi, guys. I've just installed the ubuntu phone on my galaxy nexus, and on the reboot to start ubuntu, appears a "Error!" screen. somebody can help me?
[03:39] <Supaphreek> I can't flash the stock image, because I can't reboot to bootloader.
[03:40] <ruser_> is this supposed to flash to stock recovery?
[03:40] <juicyjones> Supaphreek: you can't get to fastboot?
[03:40] <legomaster181> what device are you on supaphreek?
[03:40] <satbir7> well best of luck man..
[03:40] <Supaphreek> Nexus 4. I have no idea how to get to fastboot on this.
[03:40] <legomaster181> I'll see if I can check
[03:41] <juicyjones> just hold both volume down and power up, release power first
[03:41] <Supaphreek> Satbir7: Thanks! I hope it'll work out.
[03:41] <Supaphreek> juicyjones: I've tried the physical way already, it would just eventually boot up to Ubuntu.
[03:41] <ruser_> my install went like it should but then i got a error message on stock recovery
[03:42] <juicyjones> hold power down for 10 seconds. that cuts off power Supaphreek. then press down volume and hold it down whiel you press power. you should end up in bootloader
[03:42] <Supaphreek> What kind of error?
[03:42] <ruser_> just a ! sign
[03:42] <ruser_> normal android install error
[03:43] <Supaphreek> Woah! It worked. Thank you so much juicyjones. I could not get that to work for the last 15 minutes. No idea why... I guess I just messed up a simple process.
[03:43] <Supaphreek> ruser_ : what device?
[03:43] <juicyjones> you have to be kinda deliberate with the keys
[03:43] <Mikel> What are some of the bugs people have been noticing with touch ubuntu? Ubuntu for phone was pretty glitchy for my nexus 7, I noticed. Very slow.
[03:43] <ruser_> nexus 7
[03:43] <legomaster181> Mikel: well, first off, it's stuck in portrait mode :3
[03:44] <Mikel> Nooo!
[03:44] <icarus49> Hi everybody ! I have question "Can i flash Ubuntu os for my nexus 4 using window 7 ? "  Thanks everyone
[03:44] <Supaphreek> ruser_ : Honestly, I'm not entirely sure... But since you should be able to get into your bootloader, you could always just try again.
[03:44] <rodolfo_info> all the files already are on my nexus, somebody know what the command too reboot and flash (not phablet-flash)
[03:45] <Supaphreek> icarus49 : the easy solution I found to this was to install Ubuntu on VMware. Took little time and effort too.
[03:45] <ruser_> yeah i might but i am clueless why the install fails
[03:45] <juicyjones> ruser_: hold down volume up and down if you see the android with the "!"
[03:45] <icarus49> thank you very much :d
[03:45] <juicyjones> ruser_: you may need to reflash recovery. Just keep using TWRP, you don't need the ubuntu recovery
[03:46] <Supaphreek> No problem
[03:47] <ruser_> im using stock recovery
[03:47] <kerpal> im getting device not found now when trying to use adb
[03:47] <ruser_> and the android is down with the ! like normal
[03:47] <ruser_> but i cant get into installations
[03:48] <sgtkwol> how do I install this on my Palm Pre?
[03:48] <Supaphreek> ruser_ : Could you go into fastboot and install a recovery?
[03:48] <ruser_> yes but i used cwm before and it failed also
[03:48] <legomaster181> sgtkwol: you can't as of yet, it's just for nexus devices
[03:48] <wastrel> my qtcreator is broken
[03:48] <ruser_> is there a all in one zip file that i can just flash?
[03:49] <sgtkwol> ruser_ there's a 2 .zip you can flash http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2149705
[03:49] <Supaphreek> ruser_ : Not that I know onf. You could just wait a bit and I'm sure someone would release one.
[03:49] <Supaphreek> LOL, there you go
[03:49] <legomaster181> it also works on multirom for the nexus 7, which I'm very thankful for
[03:50] <sgtkwol> Supaphreek official route just flashes custom recovery and flashes zips from there
[03:51] <satbir7> XDA always makes things easier
[03:51] <satbir7> Thanks to the great community !!
[03:51] <legomaster181> There's always someone who's done what you want to do, and put up a guide.
[03:52] <ruser_> thanks for the help. ill try to flash those files!
[03:53] <satbir7> I am reluctant to flash,,,,,, because of the battery pull thing
[03:53] <wastrel> seems to have been a dependency problem in the qtcreator package or one of its deps
[03:53] <satbir7> supaphreek:may be you also need to pull the battery
[03:53] <sgtkwol> satbir7 should be fine, make sure battery is fully charged, before playing
[03:54] <satbir7> sgtkwol: right, but if i want to go back to my ROM... then wont i have to do  power it off to go the recovery..?
[03:55] <sgtkwol> satbir7 holding power in ubuntu will shut it down, plus N4 will shutdown after holding power in any situation
[03:56] <satbir7> allright Thanks!!
[03:56] <juicyjones> to fully disconnet the N4 battery hold power for ten seconds. that's the same as physically removing the battery
[03:56] <sgtkwol> satbir7 haven't tested ubuntu with N4, but have tested ubuntu with Gnex and played with N4, danger is in letting battery run out
[03:57] <satbir7> oh... will probably do it over the weekend...
[03:58] <satbir7> it is just great... how one can just hop on IRC to get help...
[03:58] <satbir7> and the people are always ready to Help...
[03:58] <wastrel> sgtkwol: how's performance on gnex?
[03:59] <napster> GNex performs pretty well with ubuntu. Although some apps shows a bit of lag. wastrel
[03:59] <sgtkwol> wastrel rough edges, what is supposed to work, works well
[03:59] <Mikel> Will you be able to update nightlys directly from device on Ubuntu touch?
[04:00] <legomaster181> some things like apps you can update from the device
[04:00] <legomaster181> but for most core functions, you will have to reflash
[04:00] <Mikel> Ok. ty
[04:00] <napster> Mikel: I think the only way is to flash without the -b switch.
[04:00] <legomaster181> np
[04:03] <wastrel> i fixed my qtcreator by installing libbotan-1.10-0
[04:03] <wastrel> which is a missing dep somewhere
[04:09] <Niyaz> Can I use windows system to install Ubuntu for galaxy Nexus ?
[04:10] <ProGEEK> manually yes
[04:10] <thatguy188> Anybody experience (On Nexus 4, Mako) after going through the install procedure it won't' boot, just sit at a dark screen after the Google logo?
[04:11] <ProGEEK> thatguy188, only when the zip file hasnt flashed properly
[04:11] <ProGEEK> personally anyway
[04:11] <bef0rd> mhall119: ping
[04:11] <thatguy188> Do I need to redo phablet-flash -b or can I just do phablet-flash?
[04:12] <ProGEEK> shouldnt need the -b, if you have it, wont hurt it
[04:12] <thatguy188> took forever earlier lol
[04:12] <ProGEEK> all -b does is check if the device is unlocked, unlock if it isnt, flash the boot, recovery and system images
[04:12] <ProGEEK> afaik
[04:13] <thatguy188> it was (of course) downloading files .... took forever at only like 200 kb/s
[04:13] <ProGEEK> oh no doubt
[04:13] <ProGEEK> i cheated with it
[04:13] <thatguy188> how?
[04:13] <thatguy188> I don't wanna sit here anything hour lmao
[04:13] <Tashkin> anyone tried this on a device that wasn't on the list of supported devices?
[04:13] <ProGEEK> cause it downloads them to Download/phablet or whatever the directory is, after it started, i cancelled, cd'd to that dir and used aria2 to download them
[04:14] <ProGEEK> oh it wont re-download the files thatguy188, you should already have them
[04:14] <wastrel> choices
[04:15] <thatguy188> crap, phablet-flash won't work cause I can only get into bootloader (fastboot) so it says device not found
[04:15] <thatguy188> Guess I gotta flash stock image first to get back into android
[04:15] <ProGEEK> pm me thatguy188, i can walk you through the manual process
[04:15] <jbooth> ping anyone from the ubuntu dev crowd: I'm getting the QML Accelerometer on gnex == "dummy.accelerometer" ... not, how you say, so useful...
[04:16] <wastrel> is that why it's stuck in portrait? :]
[04:16] <Tashkin> anyone tried this on a device that wasn't on the list of supported devices?
[04:16] <Mikel> How can i dualboot android and touch on nexus 7?
[04:17] <jbooth> No, the orientationsensor works just fine.
[04:17] <jbooth> But it appears to be the only QML sensor that works.
[04:18] <napster> Is it possible to develop and run a apps on this preview release?
[04:18] <jbooth> Accel and AmbientLight want to convince you they work, because they send callbacks, but...
[04:18] <jbooth> napster: Sure, as long as you don't need tilt, accel, rotation, ... sensors. :-P
[04:18] <sgtkwol> Tashkin http://phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb start compiling
[04:18] <napster> jbooth: Great! For an XKCD app, who needs sensors ;)
[04:19] <sgtkwol> accel works with the camera
[04:19] <napster> its time for some coding... :)
[04:19] <Namidairo> how big is the tree though
[04:19] <legomaster181> Mikel: As far as an official dualboot, there is none.  However, there is something called MultiRom that supports it
[04:19] <legomaster181> want a link?
[04:19] <jbooth> sgtkwol: Camera uses rotation. I went into its qml to examine how it was getting useful sensor data.
[04:19] <Mikel> Please
[04:19] <Namidairo> somewhere in the 6gb range?
[04:19] <jbooth> Sorry: orientationsensor
[04:20] <legomaster181> Mikel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2011403
[04:20] <legomaster181> it works with regular roms as well as Ubuntu
[04:20] <androidmart> adb devices keeps showing offline. have adb 1.0.31. Nexus Galaxy never prompts me to allow USB debugging.
[04:20] <Mikel> Cheers
[04:20] <Mikel> Will I have to reflash touch?
[04:21] <legomaster181> You've already flashed the dev release?
[04:21] <wayland> does ddoes anyone know if ubuntu touch is using X or Wayland or something else?
[04:21] <wastrel> so i fixed qtcreator but qmlscene is still broken
[04:21] <Mikel> Yes
[04:21] <legomaster181> Mikel: if you've already flashed Ubuntu Touch, you'll have to reflash android first, I don't know if it will work with ubuntu touch
[04:22] <Mikel> Ok Thanks!
[04:22] <Xiao-Long> wayland: It's using libhybris
[04:22] <napster> multirom look useful, ty legomaster181
[04:22] <legomaster181> no problem.
[04:22] <androidmart> Galaxy Nexus 4.2.2 never prompts me to allow USB debugging.
[04:22] <legomaster181> As for dualbooting Ubuntu Touch there's instruction on the 125th page I think
[04:23] <Xiao-Long> wayland: https://github.com/stskeeps/libhybris It allows Android's bionic drivers to be used on glibc systems
[04:23] <napster> 4.2.2 is supposed to show host key accept dialog on flashing androidmart
[04:24] <androidmart> napster, it new show me the prompt to accept the host key. I have adb 1.0.31
[04:25] <androidmart> napster, I meant to say it never prompts me to accept the host key.
[04:26] <napster> ok :)
[04:26] <vanhoof> androidmart: unplug/replug after enabling usb debugging
[04:26] <wayland> Xiao-Long: so does libhybris allow it to use Android's display server? or is X.org still used through libhybris?
[04:27] <androidmart> vanhoof: I have done that a few times already, but nothing.
[04:27] <legomaster181> Any idea why my device isn't recognized in adb with the Ubuntu Touch installed?
[04:27] <ErikZ> heh. "If nobody is here..."
[04:27] <ErikZ> I'm amazed that IRC is still popular...
[04:27] <legomaster181> It is pretty useful
[04:27] <wastrel> qmlscene gives me the error  module "Ubuntu.Components" is not installed
[04:27] <napster> lol, it always was
[04:28] <Xiao-Long> wayland: It uses neither X.org nor Android's display server. They wrote a platform plugin for Qt5, so Qt interfaces directly with the graphics drivers
[04:28] <ErikZ> It's old school, like me. So I think it's cool that people still use it. Anyway, does anyone know if they are planning on porting to the Tab II?
[04:29] <Hashcode> I'm running some test builds of the Touch Preview from source.. any idea how big this .zip is supposed to be?
[04:29] <msarchet> Hi I'm trying to flash my galaxy nexus and it appears to be freezing on pushing to autodeply
[04:29] <msarchet> any thoughts?
[04:29] <vanhoof> androidmart: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install#Step_3_-_Initial_Device_Setup
[04:29] <legomaster181> ErikZ: as far as I know, the only devices it's available for is the nexus line.  However, I did see somewhere in Ubuntu's wiki there is to be a port-a-thon soon.
[04:29] <vanhoof> """
[04:29] <vanhoof> On the workstation-> adb kill-server; adb start-server
[04:29] <vanhoof> """
[04:29] <juicyjones> porting documentation comes tomorrow
[04:29] <Namidairo> port-a-thon. like port-a-potty.
[04:30] <Hashcode> Why wait for docs? :P
[04:30] <vanhoof> msarchet: how long have you been waiting?
[04:30] <msarchet> 15 minutes
[04:30] <androidmart> vanhoof: I have done adb kill-server; adb start-server  a few times as well.
[04:30] <ErikZ> legomaster181: Excellent. I picked the tab II because it seemed to be oriented towards desktop replacement. But now I'm realizing that linux has a huge head start on software.
[04:30] <vanhoof> androidmart: works like a charm here on 1.0.31 and Ubuntu Raring
[04:31] <vanhoof> adb devices ... shows offline?
[04:31] <legomaster181> do you have to have adb on ubuntu for it to recognize a Ubuntu touch device?
[04:31] <fourfthawaiian> installing via twrp
[04:31] <vanhoof> msarchet: give it a few more
[04:31] <fourfthawaiian> slightly freaked out
[04:31] <fourfthawaiian> lol
[04:31] <msarchet> vanhoof: thanks
[04:32] <fourfthawaiian> I'm on the second zip file
[04:32] <androidmart> vanhoof: yes, adb devices shows offline. And my g nexus never shows me the key popup.
[04:32] <ErikZ> legomaster: Aparently, it's literally starting tomorrow.
[04:32] <fourfthawaiian> I think I better smoke while this runs
[04:32] <fourfthawaiian> LOL
[04:32] <fourfthawaiian> brb
[04:32] <legomaster181> so I did read it right! :D
[04:32] <peter____> rebooting! :D
[04:32] <Hashcode> fourfthawaiian how big are your .zips?
[04:32] <vanhoof> msarchet: takes ~10m or so, and when you begin the flash, you will have a delay ~70-80% as well while things are unpacked
[04:32] <ErikZ> legomaster181: Tomorrow is, like, 2.5 hours from now. ;-)
[04:32] <vanhoof> that can take a few as well but its progressing :)
[04:32] <fourfthawaiian> Hashcode: 56.5 and 504.2 MB
[04:33] <Hashcode> Ah.. ok I'm not used to seeing a system .zip which is so small.
[04:33] <fourfthawaiian> flashing in twrp is so much better. Progress indicators, ftw! \m/
[04:33] <msarchet> okay so intial flassh takes a while
[04:33] <lira> anybody know how to add files onto a phone running ubuntu?
[04:33] <wastrel> qmlscene is failing to find the ubuntu components, and when i give it the include path it coredumps
[04:33] <ErikZ> How much space have you found Unbuntu needs on your phone?
[04:33] <vanhoof> androidmart: i had the same issue, perhaps reboot the phone then plug it in
[04:33] <vanhoof> but a replug has always worked on 4.2.2
[04:33] <Tito0096> yeah
[04:34] <lira> anybody?
[04:34] <omac777> of the 4 samsung models which one is the highest-end?
[04:34] <peter____> flashed using a vm, seems to work
[04:34] <jaitaiwan> Hi Guys, I'm behind a corporate proxy and I'm getting a connection refused error (111) from phablet-flash. The OS is setup with the correct proxy settings and other terminal commands work. Can anyone help?
[04:34] <wastrel> is it possible to preview apps without qmlscene?
[04:34] <wastrel> using some other app
[04:35] <Hashcode> fourfthawaiian: where did you get the 2nd 500mb .zip?
[04:35] <juicyjones> jaitaiwan: can you just download the images form the web site and flash using fastboot and adb sideload?
[04:35] <jaitaiwan> Sure I can do that. Is there a wiki site with instructions using that method?
[04:35] <juicyjones> jaitaiwan: http://autonome.wordpress.com/2013/02/21/installing-ubuntu-phone-demo-on-galaxy-nexus-from-mac-os-x/
[04:35] <jaitaiwan> Cheers
[04:35] <juicyjones> it works the same on any platform using adb and fastboot
[04:36] <m7stic> What was the release timeline for this OS?
[04:36] <m7stic> in terms of getting an RC
[04:36] <legomaster181> Can any one help?  For some reason my nexus 7 running Ubuntu Touch won't be recognized by adb
[04:36] <androidmart> vanhoof: I just rebooted, plugged in again, but the G Nexus newer prompts me to accept the host key.
[04:36] <sgtkwol> interesting, flashed franco kernel for fun, getting CM boot logo
[04:36] <air13b> so how long does it take on the step for pushing to /sdcard/autodeploy.zip?
[04:37] <wastrel> is there a channel where app development discussion isn't swamped by people trying to flash their phones
[04:37] <Hashcode> So it's the same phablet.zip for all devices?
[04:37] <ErikZ> I'm an idiot. I don't own a tab 2. I own a note 2.
[04:38] <ali1234> wastrel: what are you trying to do?
[04:38] <wastrel> ali1234: run qmlscene
[04:38] <ali1234> on what?
[04:38] <wastrel> ubuntu 12.10,
[04:38] <wastrel> i'm getting an error module "Ubuntu.Components" is not installed
[04:39] <ali1234> on what hardware?
[04:39] <air13b> mine seems to hang during the push and it never boots into the shell
[04:39] <xanders2615> anyone knows if there's a problem with the images? i get a warning with md5sum and i have downloaded like 4 times.
[04:39] <wastrel> air13b: on a dell latitude laptop
[04:39] <air13b> no
[04:39] <wastrel> air13b: sorry, meant ali1234
[04:39] <ali1234> wastrel: did you install the correct version of touch preview sdk?
[04:39] <wastrel> ali1234: i followed the tutorial but then did a system update
[04:39] <air13b> nevermind, it just rebooted
[04:39] <ali1234> wastrel: when did you follow it?
[04:39] <wastrel> since then it's been broken
[04:40] <wastrel> couple weeks ago iirc
[04:40] <wastrel> but i uninstalled and reinstalled this evening
[04:40] <ali1234> wastrel: the procedure for running qmlscene is now different
[04:40] <ali1234> you do not run /opt/qt5/bin/qmlscene any more
[04:40] <wastrel> ah good that's the one i'm using currently
[04:40] <ali1234> you run /usr/bin/qmlscene instead
[04:41] <wastrel> will do
[04:41] <ali1234> in fact i don't think /opt/qt5 is even used any more
[04:41] <wastrel> well i have a heap of stuff in there :]
[04:42] <Namidairo> zzz repo sync
[04:42] <mhall119> wastrel: you should use the new qt5-proper PPA
[04:42] <mhall119> it sounds like you still have qt5-beta1
[04:42] <ali1234> nope, what he is describing is what happens when yu switch to the new ppa
[04:42] <ali1234> /opt/qt5 does not go away, it just stops working
[04:43] <wastrel> yeah i think i broke myself
[04:43] <wastrel> ok happy happy
[04:43] <ali1234> wastrel: i did this exact thing earlier today
[04:43] <androidmart> Can the image be downloaded and installed with Universal Nexus Linux Toolkit?
[04:43] <h3lgas1> where the guide to install ubuntu for nexus 7?
[04:43] <h3lgas1> wiki not help me
[04:44] <ali1234> wastrel: note that two ppas changed, the qt5 ppa and also the ui-toolkit ppa changed to some new name too
[04:44] <ali1234> if you followed the instructions again, you should have both
[04:44] <wastrel> jolly
[04:44] <h3lgas1> wiki not help me, but my os windows 7
[04:45] <wastrel> ali1234: you're my new favorite
[04:45] <h3lgas1> sorry me english
[04:45] <wastrel> is fixed
[04:45] <androidmart> My Galaxy Nexus 4.2.2 never prompts me to accept the host key when I plug it into my Ubuntu 12.10, adb 1.0.31. Therefoere adb devices shows offline.
[04:48] <nagu> after flashing, video and camera are not working.. any workaround? am using nexus 7
[04:48] <legomaster181> nagu: those are known bugs, and as far as I know there is no fix
[04:48] <legomaster181> It's happening for me too
[04:49] <ProGEEK> camera works for me, takes ages to init
[04:49] <ProGEEK> then again, im on a nexus 4
[04:50] <legomaster181> yeah, the problem is Nexus 7 specific
[04:50] <legomaster181> see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes#Nexus_7
[04:50] <androidmart> quit
[04:50] <legomaster181> unfortunantly, I think the N7 has the most bugs :P
[04:52] <Hashcode> Is there somewhere describing how big /data needs to be for this?
[04:53] <Tito0096> Hooray! It boots and tells me i have 14 tweets lol
[04:53] <wastrel> do you have 14 tweets?
[04:53] <sgtkwol> I have 14 tweets, too
[04:54] <sgtkwol> :D
[04:54] <wastrel> 14 free tweets
[04:54] <Tito0096> lol
[04:55] <Tito0096> Why does the Maguro not have Cell connectivity and calls and texts?
[04:55] <sgtkwol> you should be able to call and text
[04:55] <wastrel> maguro is cdma oui non?
[04:55] <legomaster181> Unfortunantly I believe those tweets are hard coded in.  As well as the facebook posts from people you don't know :3
[04:55] <Tito0096> gsm
[04:55] <vanhoof> Tito0096: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes#Sample_content
[04:55] <fourfthawaiian> omg, it's wonderful :)
[04:55] <sgtkwol> I have maguro, test calls worked and SMS
[04:55] <wastrel> oh i thought takju was gsm
[04:55] <fourfthawaiian> twrp + otg cable + usb stick = very easy install
[04:56] <vanhoof> Tito0096: calls and texts working here on maguro as well
[04:56] <sgtkwol> maguro and takju are pretty much just different software
[04:56] <fourfthawaiian> it's laggy, and I really want to try out split-screen, if I can figure it out
[04:56] <Tito0096> Ah so remove sample content and we can be good to go?
[04:56] <sgtkwol> main difference is google wallet, which won't affect ubuntu
[04:56] <fourfthawaiian> but, I'm stoked.
[04:56] <mike253> when will the porting documentation be available? id like to know so i could try porting the current cm10.1 kernel over to the UP-OS for the Droid 4? or is it not really recommened to port anything yet since it is a beta?
[04:57] <legomaster181> mike253: tomorrow
[04:57] <mike253> is it recommended to port it over?
[04:57] <fourfthawaiian> these instructions worked well for me for twrp -> http://liliputing.com/2013/02/how-to-install-ubuntu-touch-on-a-nexus-7-with-windows-mac-or-linux.html
[04:57] <sgtkwol> since they copy/pasted/edited CM code, you could probably do the same and start porting now http://phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb
[04:57] <legomaster181> they're encouraging anyone to port to other devices.
[04:57] <fourfthawaiian> In case anyone else wants to try it that way
[04:57] <Hashcode> mike253: I'm testing a port now
[04:58] <Tito0096> this is cool lol
[04:58] <mike253> dang hashcode i wasnt expecting you in here lol
[04:58] <robertjw> mike253, http://phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb
[04:58] <sgtkwol> Hashcode, what device?
[04:58] <mike253> Droid 4
[04:58] <mike253> well m-devices
[04:58] <Hashcode> sgtkwol: Kindle Fire.  I need to extract the .zip manually. The /data partition is about 200mb shy on space.
[04:58] <legomaster181> What do you do with that gitweb link?  I want to browse the source code and see if I can get the N7 to rotate.
[04:58] <Hashcode> I'll test the Droids here in a bit.
[04:58] <mike253> i stand corrected.
[04:59] <Hashcode> I have full source for everything on the KFire's.. I don't on the Droids :/
[04:59] <mike253> you need any help hashcode?
[04:59] <Hashcode> mike253: nah the mini-android compile is blazing.. takes maybe 10mins
[04:59] <mike253> i know and its kind of hard with the stock kernel and all
[04:59] <Hashcode> ^^
[04:59] <fourfthawaiian> wow. dual-boot looks painful.
[05:00] <Tito0096> Hmm...
[05:00] <fourfthawaiian> I really want my apps back, but I REALLY don't want to go through with that. Heh.
[05:00] <Hashcode> I could do it easy w/ Safestrap
[05:00] <Tito0096> all we need is a custom recovery and unlocked bootloader
[05:00] <Tito0096> This is much simpler than what I just performed
[05:00] <mike253> lol safestrap is pretty much the lifesaver
[05:00] <fourfthawaiian> does anyone have less-scary instructions than this? -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2011403
[05:00] <Tito0096> This - https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg00211.html
[05:00] <Hashcode> I should take a break for a bit :/
[05:00] <Tito0096> Basically
[05:00] <Tito0096> Get both those Images
[05:01] <Tito0096> Flash the 40 something mb file
[05:01] <Hashcode> mike253: I'll put a tweet out if I have something :P
[05:01] <Tito0096> then the 400 something
[05:01] <fourfthawaiian> that's not dual-boot, dude.
[05:01] <Tito0096> reboot and enjoy
[05:01] <mike253> go ahead man, youve done alot of work for the m-devices lol
[05:01] <fourfthawaiian> but, thanks
[05:01] <Hashcode> I'm sick as a dog :/
[05:01] <DavidJFulde> where on launchpad would I report the bugs I find?
[05:01] <legomaster181> fourfthawaiian: What's so scary about that?  I'm using it right now :P
[05:01] <Hashcode> bbl
[05:01] <fourfthawaiian> multiboot?
[05:01] <mike253> Hashcode: ill be sure to beta
[05:01] <Tito0096> And you can use either Twrp or CWm
[05:01] <legomaster181> MultiRom
[05:01] <fourfthawaiian> ok
[05:01] <fourfthawaiian> looks scary
[05:01] <fourfthawaiian> LOL
[05:01] <fourfthawaiian> I'll give it a go :)
[05:02] <legomaster181> Yeah, I recommend you do
[05:02] <sgtkwol> ubuntu looks like it'll spread quickly to other devices...
[05:02] <fourfthawaiian> I really don't want to give up linux yet. Can't wait to show it off in the office :D
[05:02] <legomaster181> it works on android roms too
[05:02] <legomaster181> ikr
[05:02] <fourfthawaiian> nice
[05:02] <DavidJFulde> anyone know where I can report bugs? I don't want top put it in the wrong place
[05:02] <fourfthawaiian> I tend to use stock android, but it might come in handy I suppose :)
[05:02] <nahawand> hello
[05:03] <legomaster181> sup
[05:03] <nahawand> is there any chance to have it on motorola razr?
[05:03] <nahawand> good thx
[05:03] <legomaster181> right now it's only on the nexus line of devices.  But there are people working on ports already, so stay tuned
[05:04] <nahawand> brilirant
[05:04] <nahawand> I\m very optimistic about this os
[05:04] <legomaster181> Yes, me too.
[05:04] <fourfthawaiian> it's wonderful to use. I find the "swipe" interface to be very intuitive
[05:05] <legomaster181> Yeah, now if they could just optimize the memory usage...
[05:05] <wastrel> sigh i'm on call til monday and can't be messing with my phone
[05:05] <wastrel> will have to wait til then to flash anything
[05:05] <fourfthawaiian> Yeah, that lag is fracking nasty.
[05:05] <legomaster181> I'ts fine for me, just don't open too many apps
[05:05] <legomaster181> on first boot before launching any apps is crazy smooth
[05:06] <legomaster181> then open an app, and the lag begins :P
[05:06] <fourfthawaiian> LMAO
[05:06] <ProGEEK> what are you running it on legomaster181 ?
[05:06] <mailer> anyone porting it to samsung phones?
[05:06] <legomaster181> I'm running it on an N7 using MultiRom
[05:06] <nahawand> one more question.. will skype be available out of the box as the app is already available for ubuntu DT?
[05:06] <ProGEEK> is that where it runs off the sd, or "sd"
[05:07] <PhantomGamers> anyone know what needs to be done to make target ubuntu/assets/ubuntu_stamp?
[05:07] <neodxb> legomaster181: would it be possible to run on N97 Mini? were you successful with N7 ?
[05:08] <legomaster181> I was successful with the N7.  I used MultiRom, since I had it already installed for ROM testing
[05:09] <therealGent> Anyone here have any writeups on dual boot solutions?
[05:09] <ProGEEK> i love how the OS is apt based
[05:09] <Tito0096> Hmmm TWRP is unable to see my SD
[05:09] <legomaster181> Like I just said, I'm using MultiRom therealGent
[05:09] <Tito0096> yet when i go to restore from backup I should be able to...
[05:09] <legomaster181> On my Nexus 7 though
[05:10] <therealGent> legomaster181, do you have reason to believe it wouldnt work on galaxy nexus?
[05:10] <nahawand> so the dt apps doesn't work out of the box?
[05:10] <legomaster181> Unfortuantly MultiRom, is only for Nexus 7.  Sorry about that.
[05:10] <therealGent> x(
[05:10] <therealGent> lol
[05:10] <fourfthawaiian> anyone ever used fastboot on OSX?
[05:11] <legomaster181> A little, why?
[05:11] <fourfthawaiian> If I can avoid using my linux VM I will
[05:11] <ProGEEK> console based apps do nahawand, installed htop to see what it was doing :p
[05:11] <fourfthawaiian> just wondering if it works usually
[05:11] <ProGEEK> and was idling around 460mb ram
[05:11] <neodxb> are there any VMs available to test it out on a desktop?
[05:11] <legomaster181> It don't see why it wouldn't work fourfthawaiian
[05:11] <fourfthawaiian> rgr that
[05:12] <dk> my new nexus4 is having a hot flash moment.
[05:13] <dk> go ubuntu phone
[05:13] <dk> :)
[05:13] <Tito0096> lame...
[05:13]  * Namidairo watches his nexus 4 burst into a million glass pieces
[05:13] <Tito0096> my backups arent avaliable to my phone
[05:13] <fourfthawaiian> Ok, I guess all I need now is a stock rom for n7
[05:13] <wastrel> neodxb: if you find one let me know
[05:14] <sgtkwol> I wonder how long it will take for people to go CM style on the Ubuntu code and get everything working
[05:14] <fourfthawaiian> QUICK. TO THE GOOGLES.
[05:14] <Namidairo> sgtkwol: you do realise this is based off cm right
[05:14] <fourfthawaiian> https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#nakasijdq39
[05:14] <fourfthawaiian> woot
[05:14] <ProGEEK> fourfthawaiian, they have a link on the ubuntu page for the stock roms
[05:14] <fourfthawaiian> oh, duh
[05:14] <fourfthawaiian> lol
[05:14] <fourfthawaiian> oh well
[05:14] <Namidairo> so technically people already have gone cm style on it
[05:14] <ProGEEK> nevermind then :p
[05:15] <sgtkwol> Namidairo yep, that's why I don't think it'll take long for non-Canonical people to go crazy on it
[05:15] <ProGEEK> i love how after i flashed it, i was able to go to recover and take a backup of it
[05:15] <Namidairo> porting guide is up tomorrow, other devices should be ported pretty damn quickly
[05:16] <wastrel> found a typo in the tutorial
[05:16] <ProGEEK> well yeah its core is CM10.1
[05:16] <fourfthawaiian> should twrp look any different after I've installed multirom?
[05:16] <sgtkwol> I for one, can't wait to see where this is in just a bit of time, I wouldn't be surprised to see some big community and/or Canonical changes within 30 days
[05:16] <ProGEEK> the swiping interface is too sensitive IMHO
[05:16] <legomaster181> fourfthawaiian, in the advanced tab, there should be a multirom button
[05:16] <sphyyr> Hello all.
[05:16] <fourfthawaiian> oh, so there is :)
[05:17] <fourfthawaiian> You guys are damned helpful. Can't tell you how much I appreciate it.
[05:17] <fourfthawaiian> ok, downloading stock rom now
[05:17] <legomaster181> When you finish installing MultiRom, when you boot up it should bring you to a page where you can choose what rom to load
[05:17] <legomaster181> that's when you know you're done :P
[05:17] <fourfthawaiian> groovy
[05:18] <fourfthawaiian> ty
[05:18] <fourfthawaiian> downloading factory rom, then I'll throw it on the USB stick
[05:18] <fourfthawaiian> REALLY glad I invested in a OTG cable.
[05:18] <legomaster181> man, I wish I had one :P
[05:18] <legomaster181> so many uses
[05:18] <fourfthawaiian> Yeah, it's fucking amazing
[05:18] <wastrel> what's an OTG cable, and also do the tablets have a USB port ?
[05:18] <fourfthawaiian> I bought it ages ago for my old thrive 10
[05:19] <fourfthawaiian> and it comes in handy all the time on my optimus g and on my nexus 7 :)
[05:19] <legomaster181> wastrel: it's a cord that allows you to plug usb devices like keyboards or usb drives into your miniusb plug on your phone/tablet
[05:19] <wastrel> oic
[05:20] <fourfthawaiian> kb's, mice, etc
[05:20] <sphyyr> hey fourfthawaiin do you recommend any particular model of otg cable?
[05:20] <fourfthawaiian> I'm hoping I can track down a driver for my usb->vga dongle
[05:20] <fourfthawaiian> that'd be fun
[05:20] <fourfthawaiian> sphyyr: I only have the one, but it rocks
[05:20] <fourfthawaiian> trying to find a receipt from when I bought it
[05:21] <sphyyr> yeah I'm considering purchasing one off amazon just not sure if any are of better quality.
[05:21] <Namidairo> fourfthawaiian: if you are lucky there should be a generic driver from the oem
[05:21] <fourfthawaiian> Namidairo: Yeah, here's hoping
[05:21] <Namidairo> if not, there's masterca- reverse engineering.
[05:21] <sphyyr> Ubuntu Touch OS is pretty interesting so far, not sure how i feel about how it flows from one thing to another.
[05:21] <ProGEEK> lol my mate just messaged me, "I just flashed Ubuntu Phone, and apparently i already have 14 tweets"
[05:22] <ProGEEK> "We all have 14 tweets you moron"
[05:22] <Namidairo> lol
[05:22] <sphyyr> heh.
[05:22] <ghostnik11> i got on here to find out about the experience of the ubuntu OS on android phone like nexus
[05:22] <sphyyr> hey ProGEEK you should tell your mate to call one of those #'s that came with it haha.
[05:22] <therealGent> any of you guys try boot manager lite?
[05:22] <ghostnik11> so what is it like?
[05:23] <Namidairo> like hardcoded strings
[05:23] <juicyjones> ghostnik11: raw
[05:23] <ProGEEK> ok, i'm cruel and horrible, but im not THAT cruel and horrible
[05:23] <ProGEEK> thats a toll call from here lol
[05:23] <sphyyr> oo ouch yeah that wouldn't be nice.
[05:23] <ghostnik11> juicyjones: so i guess the disclaimers of it not being an every day use is correct to say so far?
[05:23] <sphyyr> very much so not a daily driver.
[05:24] <juicyjones> ghostnik11: totally. it's just an interactive slideshow right now
[05:24] <ProGEEK> so apparently the video player doesnt have sound?
[05:24] <fourfthawaiian> I dunno
[05:24] <sphyyr> I would confidently call it a proof of concept and nothing more at this point.
[05:24] <fourfthawaiian> I posted a status on FB :)
[05:24] <fourfthawaiian> and checked my gmail
[05:24] <ProGEEK> cause if thats the case, then my phone must be awesome cause i have sound lol
[05:24] <omac777> is there an easy way to get all the sources in one shot using svn or git  from http://bazaar.launchpad.net ?  As it stands from the web gui they seem to be all separate projects.
[05:24] <fourfthawaiian> LOL
[05:24] <ProGEEK> agreed sphyyr
[05:25] <ghostnik11> sphyyr: damn, i figure they got everything as close to perfect as possible but is it useable in terms of primary functions of a phone like phone calling, texting, writing emails?
[05:25] <fourfthawaiian> I was bummed that ski safari didn't work properly. love that game :P
[05:25] <ProGEEK> omac777, phablet-dev-bootstrap
[05:25] <jbooth> Eh, it calls, texts, and has a working browser. Other than supporting a corp exchange account which will probably take a long long time, that's about as good as I need.
[05:25] <sphyyr> as far as I have determined it works well as a phone, I don't think that texting works though?
[05:25] <ProGEEK> texting works
[05:25] <ProGEEK> although slow
[05:25] <jbooth> The phone keyboard isn't so hot
[05:25] <ProGEEK> well, it varied
[05:26] <ProGEEK> agreed, keyboard isnt that good
[05:26] <fourfthawaiian> yeah, no predictive text
[05:26] <ProGEEK> haha
[05:26] <sphyyr> yeah the lack of haptic feedback and predictive text.
[05:26] <fourfthawaiian> took me fracking forever to type that status update :P
[05:26] <ProGEEK> or swype
[05:26] <ghostnik11> ProGEEK: wow, ouch thats bad, then i guess community and devs of OS will have a lot of work to do b/4 it becomes beta
[05:26] <omac777> ProGEEK, so is it an apt-get install source phablet-dev-bootstrap?
[05:26] <doomlord> the gesture typing in android is interesting, should copy that
[05:26] <jbooth> Though I have to say, I flashed it on my gnex -- no accelerometer when I need one in my app, so restored mine and flashed the wife's nex4. No accel there either. DOH.
[05:26] <wastrel> jbooth: someone's actively working on an exchange client
[05:26] <wastrel> jbooth: i think he;s working with the core apps team now but may still be independent
[05:26] <fourfthawaiian> using evolution sources?
[05:26] <jbooth> But the nex4 experience is a world and above better than gnex.
[05:26] <ProGEEK> omac777, nah it should have been installed when you installed the phablet tools
[05:26] <wastrel> fourfthawaiian: unlikely
[05:27] <jbooth> nex4 is smooth like butter. gnex you can see it struggling to keep up.
[05:27] <fourfthawaiian> fair enough
[05:27] <ProGEEK> omac777, just run phablet-dev-bootstrap DESTINATIONFOLDER
[05:27] <fourfthawaiian> just as well. evolution sucks. LOL
[05:27] <sphyyr> I didn't even bother trying with my gnex, the nex4 is butter smooth though.
[05:27] <fourfthawaiian> so, multirom can load this .tgz?
[05:27] <fourfthawaiian> I thought it liked .zip files?
[05:27] <doomlord> i remember android on gnex was sucky until project butter came along
[05:27] <ProGEEK> yup, nex4 was slicker than snot on a doorknob
[05:27] <wastrel> android on gnex is sucky?
[05:27] <jbooth> wastrel: well that's exciting. Could be my DD if it does exchange calendar -- that's really what I need.
[05:27] <doomlord> was
[05:27] <ProGEEK> and even though barely anything works, its still epic
[05:28] <legomaster181> fourfthawaiian: there's instructions on the 125th page of the forum on how to install ubuntu touch :P
[05:28] <fourfthawaiian> LMAO
[05:28] <fourfthawaiian> rgr that
[05:28] <jbooth> Wonder if I can con the wife into a nex4 for me for "development"
[05:28] <sphyyr> do it jbooth!
[05:28] <omac777> ProGEEK:  Right on!  Thank you.  I don't have any of these Samsung Devices.  I'm SOL for now, but I have an ADVENT VEGA I'm itching to get it to run on.
[05:28] <doomlord> when i got my gnex, it was a little jerky. turned smooth at some particular update
[05:28] <fourfthawaiian> I have touch, I want to boot 4.2.2 again
[05:28] <omac777> Of the 4 SAMSUNG Devices, which is the highest end for these for ubuntu images?
[05:29] <sphyyr> omac777 you may want to consider investing in a nexus device of some generation, they really are very nice for dev stuff.
[05:29] <ProGEEK> omac777, nex4 would have been my guess
[05:29] <sphyyr> ^
[05:29] <ProGEEK> mine's a quad core 1.5, 2GB ram, 16G storage
[05:29] <doomlord> What c++ libraries are supported for native development
[05:29] <legomaster181> fourfthawaiian: you're going to have to get help from someone else for that :P  I barely got my N7 to update to 4.2.2, and I'm not sure how I even did it :3
[05:30] <ProGEEK> if just going on those specs, is more powerful than my laptop
[05:30] <legomaster181> How do you download the source code for Ubuntu Touch?
[05:30] <fourfthawaiian> that's fair enough :) ty anyway
[05:30] <ProGEEK> legomaster181, phablet-dev-bootstrap FOLDER
[05:30] <fourfthawaiian> I just really want to dual boot instead of blowing Ubuntu touch away.
[05:31] <sphyyr> is dualboot android 4.2.2/Ubuntu Touch OS viable at this point?
[05:31] <legomaster181> I'm assuming that's on the package you get when installing Ubuntu Touch ProGEEK?
[05:31] <doomlord> i think what i  want is dualboot android/ubuntu-arm on n7
[05:31] <ProGEEK> yup yup
[05:31] <ghostnik11> omac777: i am in same boat don't have nexus or samsung line anything and will have to wait for my upgrade in april to get hands on one of these on my carriers network, but the problem with nexus 4 is lack of micro sd card which i don't understand why google left it out
[05:31] <ProGEEK> fourfthawaiian, my phone doesnt support multiboot, so i installed Ubuntu Touch, rebooted to recovery, then took a backup
[05:31] <legomaster181> fourfthawaiian: I'd reinstall 4.2.2, then reinstall multirom if you have to.  Finally, add Ubuntu Touch as a rom
[05:31] <fourfthawaiian> Interesting
[05:31] <fourfthawaiian> ahhhhh
[05:31] <ProGEEK> so now i just "Restore" the rom I want
[05:31] <fourfthawaiian> that sounds easier
[05:32] <fourfthawaiian> lol
[05:32] <fourfthawaiian> groovy
[05:32] <fourfthawaiian> ty
[05:32] <legomaster181> I still like MultiRom :3
[05:32] <sphyyr> hey ProGEEK when you pushed Touch to your phone did it wipe your custom recovery?
[05:32] <ProGEEK> i want multirom :'(
[05:32] <dk> what's the best way to kill a running app?
[05:32] <ProGEEK> i had CWM anyway so wasnt a biggie
[05:32] <ProGEEK> dk, on the app, swipe up from the bottom, then click the X
[05:32] <jbooth> dk: swipe up from the bottom, hit the "settings" circle in the middle
[05:33] <dk> X is grayed out
[05:33] <air13b> so i have it installed, it seems hung up after the boot though
[05:33] <jbooth> hooza. The nex4 is way faster than gnex even restoring andoird. :-/
[05:33] <dk> okay, now the X is active
[05:33] <dk> i thought that was it, but it didn't work the first 20 or so times.  works now :-)
[05:34] <air13b> nm, got it
[05:34] <ProGEEK> How long does it take you other users for it to boot up?
[05:34] <ProGEEK> mine is about 7-10 seconds
[05:34] <fourfthawaiian> ok
[05:34] <fourfthawaiian> flashing back to 4.2.2
[05:34] <okay> Where do you extract the system image files when restoring back to Android?
[05:34] <fourfthawaiian> might leave the re-linux-ing 'til tomorrow if this works OK
[05:34] <fourfthawaiian> heh
[05:34] <sphyyr> anybody try booting into fastboot and get a red led at the bottom of their screen for like 3 seconds?
[05:35] <ProGEEK> sphyyr, only when i hold the buttons down
[05:35] <ProGEEK> when i release, it goes out
[05:35] <ProGEEK> then i hold again
[05:35] <sphyyr> yeah, AIEEE red dot of death haha. also my cwmr is all kinds of weird resolutions now.
[05:35] <em_> Hey!
[05:35] <ProGEEK> i took it as an "OI im powered off, get yer filthy meathooks off me"
[05:36] <sphyyr> yeah pretty much lol
[05:36] <legomaster181> Hah!
[05:36] <ProGEEK> xD
[05:36] <sphyyr> how did you go about doing a dual restore setup though, take a backup of the touch os and then install android and the touch os is still backed up in cwm?
[05:36] <ProGEEK> me ?
[05:36] <sphyyr> yeah sorry.
[05:37] <ProGEEK> i had CM10.1 yesterday, before i reflashed, i backed it up
[05:37] <ProGEEK> installed touch
[05:37] <ProGEEK> played with it, then rebooted to recovery, took another backup, then restored the first backup to CM10.1
[05:37] <sphyyr> ah so your CM10.1 backup was still safe on your sdcard?
[05:37] <ProGEEK> yeah it doesnt seem to wipe your SD
[05:38] <sphyyr> and just to verify, your on a N4?
[05:38] <ProGEEK> indeed
[05:38] <ProGEEK> <3 N4
[05:38] <legomaster181> ProGEEK: phablet-dev-bootstrap is asking for a vendor, know what I need to type?
[05:38] <sphyyr> awesome hope my PA3.00 backup is still good haha. and yes N4 is amazing.
[05:38] <ProGEEK> hold up, lemme ps ax
[05:38] <em_> Installation stuck at Pushing .../quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip to /sdcard/autodeploy.zip
[05:38] <em_> nothing happens then
[05:38] <ProGEEK> ok, legomaster181 its the code of your device
[05:38] <ProGEEK> i.e. the N4 is mako
[05:38] <em_> what could it be  caused by?
[05:39] <dk> em_: wait 10 minutes?
[05:39] <ProGEEK> so i ran: phablet-dev-bootstrap -v mako UbuntuTouch
[05:39] <legomaster181> e.g. grouper for n7?
[05:39] <ProGEEK> i have no clue, i know mine and the GNex lol
[05:39] <em_> ok, I'll wait some more time
[05:40] <ProGEEK> em_, that file is >400MB, it'll take some time
[05:40] <em_> How long an installation should take in average?
[05:40] <ProGEEK> id assume it would vary between devices
[05:40] <ProGEEK> what is your device ?
[05:41] <em_> Nexus 10
[05:41] <sphyyr> em_ my install took around 1 hour on a 10Mbps connection.
[05:41] <ProGEEK> should be anywhere up to 5-10 minutes
[05:41] <ProGEEK> sphyyr, to transfer the files, or the download ?
[05:41] <legomaster181> How long does it take to download the source?
[05:41] <em_> ok
[05:42] <ProGEEK> legomaster181, i've been running for several hours, and its currently > 2G in size
[05:42] <legomaster181> well, better leave it over night
[05:42] <legomaster181> and on that note, good night!
[05:42] <ProGEEK> night!
[05:42] <legomaster181> hoped I could help :P
[05:43] <sphyyr> ProGEEK total, sorry was talking to the wife. total time from start to finish was probably about 1hr 10min
[05:43] <ProGEEK> yeah he's asking about transfer from pc to phone lol
[05:44] <sphyyr> oh snap probably like 1-4 minutes for transfer and then phone takes its sweet ass time installing it haha
[05:44] <fourfthawaiian> I wish I'd seen twrp instructions first
[05:44] <fourfthawaiian> so much easier.
[05:44] <ProGEEK> lol
[05:44] <sphyyr> hey ProGEEK you on linux?
[05:44] <fourfthawaiian> especially with an otg cable and a nice big flash drive
[05:45] <fourfthawaiian> ESPECIALLY since I'm not on linux
[05:45] <ProGEEK> what an insulting question
[05:45] <fourfthawaiian> trying to do it through a vm was BALLS
[05:45] <sphyyr> =P what irc client do you recommend?
[05:45] <ProGEEK> like id run anything else
[05:45] <ProGEEK> i've always stuck to XChat
[05:45] <wastrel> hexchat seems to be the new hotness
[05:45] <wastrel> if you like gui
[05:45] <wastrel> i use irssi
[05:45] <ProGEEK> and if i was on a server, it was irssi
[05:45] <sphyyr> I just got a ssd that I put ubuntu on. hm idc about gui just the ability to chat and have come modular ability for add ons.
[05:46] <sphyyr> hey ProGEEK is there a way to rename backups within cwm?
[05:46] <ProGEEK> yeah, in ROM Manager
[05:46] <ProGEEK> it in CWM
[05:46] <ProGEEK> *not in
[05:47] <sphyyr> ah ok, um could you possibly do it via ES FIle Explorer?
[05:47] <fourfthawaiian> kk, flashing back to 4.2.2
[05:47] <ProGEEK> you cant browse that directory from the phone
[05:47] <ProGEEK> you'd have to adb shell
[05:47] <ProGEEK> go to the backups folder, and rename the folder
[05:47] <sphyyr> ah ok, ill probably do that then. im restoring to my PA backup.
[05:48] <sphyyr> even with up to / permission in file explorer with root you can't view cwm backups huh?
[05:48] <fourfthawaiian> oh, ffs
[05:48] <fourfthawaiian> TWICE now I've downloaded the wrong image.
[05:48] <fourfthawaiian> Sigh.
[05:48] <ProGEEK> nah it wouldnt appear ...
[05:48] <ProGEEK> actually lemme check
[05:48] <fourfthawaiian> Device product is 'grouper'. Update requires 'tilapia'.
[05:48]  * fourfthawaiian facepalms
[05:49] <ProGEEK> ES wont let me out of the /sdcard/ dir
[05:50] <kerpal> anyone else still stuck in the nexus 10 boot loop?
[05:50] <kerpal> i found one way around it that was pretty easy
[05:50] <ProGEEK> Same with CM10.1 File Manager
[05:51] <fourfthawaiian> the good part about doing this over and over and over.. is that it's much less scary
[05:51] <ProGEEK> nevermind, had CM10.1 File Manager in safe mode
[05:52] <ProGEEK> lol so i was talking to myself sphyyr lol
[05:52] <sphyyr> well I'm glad to know that the fn f12 is immediate power off on my computer -_-
[05:52] <ProGEEK> HAH
[05:52] <sphyyr> stupid new wireless keyboard
[05:52] <ProGEEK> i mean :(
[05:52] <sphyyr> haha no it was pretty funny, im all like yay more volume... wait what in the hell? boom computer off :(
[05:52] <PhantomGamers> is anyone working on porting this to the us sgs3?
[05:52] <PhantomGamers> i ask as a developer not a leecher :P
[05:52] <nagu> i cant update my ubuntu sdk through terminal :(
[05:53] <sphyyr> hey ProGEEK what is your preferred flavor of linux?
[05:53] <ProGEEK> Unsure at this time
[05:53] <ProGEEK> i run Ubuntu 13.04
[05:53] <ProGEEK> my servers are all CentOS6
[05:53] <johncrist1988> Greetings everyone
[05:53] <omac777> ProGeek, I'm getting the mako sources.
[05:54] <sphyyr> oh hm is it stable enough for daily?
[05:54] <ProGEEK> i am preferring centos
[05:54] <johncrist1988> sphyyr, Not really, no.
[05:54] <ProGEEK> johncrist1988, i dunno what you are talking about, mine is stable lol
[05:54] <ProGEEK> except at the moment i cant suspend
[05:54] <johncrist1988> sphyyr, Some things just aren't implemented yet. External sounds for one. No speakerphone for notifications. Nothing.
[05:54] <ProGEEK> but thats no biggie
[05:54] <sphyyr> ah ok. so far im happy with 12.10 but i was enjoying linux mint 13 with cinnamon.
[05:54] <em_> it's still stuck, after already more then 15m
[05:55] <johncrist1988> Oh lol, I thought we were talking about the touch preview
[05:55] <dk> accessed my webserver.
[05:55] <ProGEEK> haha
[05:55] <dk> USER_AGENT string is:   "Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; CPU iPhone OS 5_0 like Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/534.46 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.1 Mobile/9A334 Safari/7534.48.3"
[05:55] <sphyyr> whoo ParanoidAndroid 3.00 back up on my N4 :D
[05:55] <dk> WHY?  user_agent saying iPhone ?
[05:55] <ProGEEK> dk, probably compatibility at the mo
[05:56] <Namidairo> because iphone site
[05:56] <ProGEEK> to ensure you get mobile versions of the site id assume
[05:56] <dk> I know all that
[05:56] <dk> user agents should allow a device to set capabilities, not brands :)
[05:56] <sphyyr> what is the easiest way in xchat to reply to a person? such as having their username input in chat?
[05:56] <jbooth> johncrist1988: External sound works -- I can play mp3s through QML Audio calls on the external speaker.
[05:56] <ProGEEK> sphyyr, start typing their nickname, then hit tab to complete it
[05:56] <johncrist1988> jbooth, Really? None of my notifications are playing through the speakerphone.
[05:56] <sphyyr> ProGEEK, awesome ty
[05:56] <ProGEEK> tab complete ftw
[05:56] <panard> is N4 expensive?
[05:57] <ProGEEK> i got mine rather cheap
[05:57] <sphyyr> yeah I've been burned by win8 and can't remember my precious linux commands haha
[05:57] <jbooth> Well I can't comment on that, all I can tell you is the toy app I was working on makes LOTS OF NOISE.
[05:57] <panard> ProGEEK: how much?
[05:57] <jbooth> (way louder than android on the same phone, oddly enough)
[05:57] <ProGEEK> brand new sealed, $650NZD
[05:57] <ProGEEK> so in US thats...
[05:58] <ProGEEK> $542.95, well its cheap for over here anyway
[05:58] <johncrist1988> jbooth, Interesting, I've been trying to figure out sound on my N4 all night. Through the earpiece it's fine. External speaker? Nope.
[05:58] <ProGEEK> dont have it muted johncrist1988 ? :p
[05:58] <panard> ProGEEK: that's really expensive!!
[05:58] <sphyyr> anybody else think that $60USD is a bit steep for the wireless charger from el Goog?
[05:58] <jbooth> johncrist1988: Could be a n4 thing, I didn't try sound on it before returning it to android for the wife and reflashing my gnex to touch.
[05:58] <ProGEEK> panard, over iPhones are $1000+
[05:58] <johncrist1988> ProGEEK, It isn't, notifications can be heard with the earpiece.
[05:59] <ProGEEK> the N4 is currently RRP $799+
[05:59] <johncrist1988> johncrist1988, On your gnex it's fine?
[05:59] <fourfthawaiian> everything is stupidly exey in oz/nz
[05:59] <dk> what app can actually play audio on the current build?
[05:59] <ProGEEK> fourfthawaiian, IKR!
[05:59] <ghostnik11> sphyyr: yes thats very expensive for a wireless charger
[05:59] <panard> ProGEEK: i sow N4 sells about 400USD
[05:59] <fourfthawaiian> Srsly. One of the few things I don't miss about living down under.
[05:59] <fourfthawaiian> been in the states for 3 years.. I buy ALL THE TOYS. LOL
[06:00] <sphyyr> I live at the top of the world o_o
[06:00] <ProGEEK> yeah i looked at getting one imported, but after paying for it, currency conversion and shipping, it was going to be about 700
[06:00] <kerpal> nexus 4 should be $350 before taxes for the 16gb in the states
[06:00] <sphyyr> ^ how much i paid
[06:00] <panard> ProGEEK: where do you live with?
[06:01] <ProGEEK> New Zealand
[06:01] <fourfthawaiian> n7 was $200 for my mrs 16G and $250 for my 32G
[06:01] <fourfthawaiian> obscenely cheap.
[06:01] <ProGEEK> where everything costs an arm, a leg, your first born son, and possibly a testicle or two
[06:01] <fourfthawaiian> LMAO
[06:01] <kerpal> yeah google's prices are great
[06:01] <kerpal> you can't complain about them
[06:01] <ProGEEK> its insanely expensive for electronics here
[06:01] <kerpal> their customer service is terrible though from what i hear from people who had problems
[06:01] <fourfthawaiian> I was even able to find the 16G in a shop, which I didn't think you could do.
[06:01] <johncrist1988> I got a N4 on craigslist for $200
[06:02] <kerpal> no way
[06:02] <sphyyr> I have had great customer service from google every time i've had to contact them.
[06:02] <kerpal> lies
[06:02] <panard> johncrist1988: howto?
[06:02] <kerpal> well that's good to hear sphyyr
[06:02] <ProGEEK> there is no such thing sphyyr
[06:02] <SpeeDeh> is there an easy way to clear out the "recently in touch" section
[06:02] <fourfthawaiian> ok, 4.2.2 booted
[06:02] <ProGEEK> lol
[06:02] <johncrist1988> lol panard Just look on craigslist if you're in the states
[06:02] <ProGEEK> yay fourfthawaiian
[06:02] <fourfthawaiian> you guys ROCK. Thanks for all the assistance tonight.
[06:02] <SpeeDeh> i installed one of the preloaded images
[06:02] <ProGEEK> about time you got some success
[06:03] <sphyyr> no such thing as customer service?
[06:03] <fourfthawaiian> hopefully I'll be able to get ubuntu running in dual-boot tomorrow
[06:03] <fourfthawaiian> ProGEEK: Srsly. :P
[06:03] <ProGEEK> SpeeDeh, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes#Sample_content
[06:03] <fourfthawaiian> have a good night/day/whichever, all
[06:03] <fourfthawaiian> cheers
[06:03] <SpeeDeh> im clicking, thx
[06:03] <sphyyr> ProGEEK,  there is no such thing as what?
[06:04] <ProGEEK> good customer service from google lol
[06:04] <SpeeDeh> is there an easy way to shell in from Windows?
[06:04] <SpeeDeh> laptop is charging atm =(
[06:04] <sphyyr> haha probably not, I just have easy questions ^_^
[06:04] <johncrist1988> Evidently I just lost wlan0
[06:04] <ProGEEK> SpeeDeh, same page, closer to the top :p
[06:04] <sphyyr> johncrist1988,  it ran away?
[06:04] <ProGEEK> oh wow
[06:05] <ProGEEK> phablet-network-setup copies your current wifi setup to the device
[06:05] <ProGEEK> NICE
[06:05] <sphyyr> from your pc?
[06:05] <johncrist1988> sphyyr, No, from my phone
[06:05] <SpeeDeh> adb cant see the device since i installed ubuntu
[06:05] <sphyyr> johncrist1988, ah :(
[06:06] <ProGEEK> yup
[06:06] <sphyyr> ProGEEK, does that copy your current wifi setup from your pc or from your phone?
[06:06] <ProGEEK> From the PC to the phone
[06:06] <sphyyr> ProGEEK, time for an install script!
[06:06] <ProGEEK> my laptop is on wifi, when i run that command, i see it copy my config in the terminal, and then i see my phone connect to the wifi
[06:06] <SpeeDeh> well i cant run that ssh stuff if adb wont work =(
[06:07] <ProGEEK> cant you adb shell ?
[06:07] <sphyyr> ProGEEK, awesome. well all its time for bed, I shall be back on tomorrow to continue chatting about Touch OS.
[06:07] <ProGEEK> Night!
[06:07] <SpeeDeh> tablet currently doesnt show up as an ADB device
[06:07] <SpeeDeh> maybe need new drivers
[06:07] <ProGEEK> have you restarted the adb server ?
[06:07] <SpeeDeh> yeah
[06:08] <ProGEEK> or yeah possibly drivers, i dont know, im on Linux
[06:08] <SpeeDeh> i see it shows as an exclamation mark in windows
[06:08] <SpeeDeh> damn
[06:08] <SpeeDeh> and theres no way canonical is gonna provide windows drivers hahaha
[06:09] <faninx> hi everyone     can I ask a question? How can I push a font to ubuntu phone?
[06:09] <ProGEEK> i dont think its the canonical driver you need
[06:09] <ProGEEK> more like the one for your nexus
[06:09] <SpeeDeh> well i installed the nexus drivers to get windows to see it in adb
[06:09] <SpeeDeh> but since loading ubuntu, it shows an ! in device manager, hmmm
[06:09] <SpeeDeh> does ubuntu support various modes like MTP etc
[06:10] <ProGEEK> try another usb port
[06:10] <SpeeDeh> whoa somehow i entered a settings page on the device
[06:10] <omac777> SpeeDeh: yes.
[06:10] <SpeeDeh> i was looking for that
[06:10] <faninx> I want to use adb, but I don't know the folder
[06:10] <omac777> Last I heard, it was a simple mount.
[06:11] <omac777> It's supported through FUSE.
[06:11] <SpeeDeh> new usb port, no more exclamation mark
[06:11] <SpeeDeh> but no adb devices
[06:11] <SpeeDeh> restarted server
[06:11] <SpeeDeh> sad day
[06:11] <ProGEEK> reboot both lol
[06:12] <em_> I've started installation again, but with shorter cord and it completed a lot faster, so I assume the cause of very long transferring was a cord.
[06:12] <SpeeDeh> i really should have done it through ubuntu lol
[06:12] <ProGEEK> yes, yes you should
[06:12] <ProGEEK> :p
[06:12] <SpeeDeh> but... it said the camera works
[06:12] <SpeeDeh> but it doesnt
[06:12] <ProGEEK> it does on mine
[06:12] <ProGEEK> after some time
[06:12] <ProGEEK> lol
[06:12] <SpeeDeh> oh
[06:12] <SpeeDeh> lol
[06:12] <johncrist1988> My camera works fine
[06:12] <SpeeDeh> and ski safari was preinstalled! which was boss
[06:13] <SpeeDeh> but it doesnt fit the screen correctly
[06:13] <ProGEEK> it is!
[06:13] <SpeeDeh> and it doesnt do anything
[06:13] <ProGEEK> just as a preinstalled image :p
[06:13] <johncrist1988> ProGEEK, Have you done any kernel work with the preview or anything? Tried anything?
[06:13] <SpeeDeh> lol its just a picture?
[06:13] <SpeeDeh> diabolical
[06:13] <ProGEEK> nah, im just a poor underpaid web and app developer
[06:13] <SpeeDeh> and i cant change the time
[06:13] <SpeeDeh> or the timezone
[06:14] <ProGEEK> hey dont knock it, its a rather snazzy looking picture :p
[06:14] <dk> read the release notes
[06:14] <dk> timezone is changeable
[06:14] <SpeeDeh> lol maybe if it fit the screen :p
[06:14] <ProGEEK> SpeeDeh, you change that from the terminal at the mo
[06:14] <SpeeDeh> ah
[06:14] <SpeeDeh> im still goin through that page
[06:14] <ProGEEK> remembering its a Developer Preview
[06:14] <johncrist1988> Ahh. Did they ever release any kernel notes or anything I wonder? I'm compiling one now I wanna push but don't know if they did anything special.
[06:14] <nagu> Unable to locate package ubuntu-sdk... any workaround???
[06:14] <SpeeDeh> i see the timezone part now
[06:14] <ProGEEK> johncrist1988, its base is CM10.1
[06:14] <napster> Where is the bug tracker?
[06:15] <ProGEEK> nagu, did you install the ppa
[06:15] <SpeeDeh> can i access a terminal from the device
[06:15] <SpeeDeh> i dont see one
[06:15] <johncrist1988> Good to know
[06:15] <SpeeDeh> im scrolling
[06:15] <ProGEEK> no SpeeDeh, computer only
[06:15] <SpeeDeh> blast!
[06:16] <nagu> yes proGeek
[06:16] <omac777> still retrieving get the mako sources....30 minutes later...
[06:16] <ProGEEK> did you apt-get update ?
[06:16] <ProGEEK> omac777, you'll be there for hours
[06:16] <ProGEEK> i have had it going since 1pm this afternoon
[06:16] <omac777> yup :)
[06:16] <ProGEEK> it is now 7:16pm
[06:16] <omac777> Ok...thanks for the warning :)
[06:16] <ProGEEK> and its still going, and just over 2.2GB
[06:17] <ProGEEK> its going really slowly, like 60kbs
[06:17] <johncrist1988> wtf why did I suddenly completely loose wlan0
[06:17] <ProGEEK> did you misplace it ?
[06:17] <SpeeDeh> i downloaded them here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/quantal/mwc-demo/
[06:17] <johncrist1988> lol No :P
[06:17] <ProGEEK> SpeeDeh, we are referring to the source code
[06:18] <ProGEEK> are you sure? when i lose my glasses, they are usually on my face
[06:18] <SpeeDeh> scrollin too fast for me to keep pace with chat and the docs
[06:18] <SpeeDeh> ima disappear for a bit
[06:18] <SpeeDeh> thx for the links
[06:18] <ProGEEK> enjoy
[06:18] <Namidairo> repo init -u git://phablet.ubuntu.com/CyanogenMod/android.git -b phablet-10.1
[06:19] <Namidairo> repo sync
[06:20] <nagu> yes i didnt that. i did followed this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Qml-Phone-Alternitive to install ubuntu components
[06:20] <Namidairo> i was talking about the source
[06:22] <ali1234> ProGEEK: i pulled source when everyone was fighting for the images :)
[06:22] <ali1234> got them at 1mbit
[06:22] <ProGEEK> grrr
[06:22] <ProGEEK> not what i wanted to hear lol
[06:23] <madrahimov> Can I install on nexus s
[06:23] <ali1234> al@al-desktop:~/phablet-dev$ du . -sh
[06:23] <ali1234> 16G	.
[06:23] <Namidairo> ali1234: images were released at 2am in the morning for me sooooo...
[06:23] <ali1234> ProGEEK:  ^
[06:23] <ProGEEK> oh hell no
[06:23] <Namidairo> 16gbs?
[06:23] <ProGEEK> i quit lol
[06:23] <madrahimov> yes
[06:23] <Namidairo> /wrist
[06:24] <sk789> hi can any one tell me is it possible to install ubuntu on iphone 3gs
[06:24] <johncrist1988> ProGEEK, has there been any word on whether we are looking at nightly builds or anything?
[06:24] <sk789> by any means
[06:24] <Namidairo> LOL
[06:24] <ProGEEK> johncrist1988, no idea, havent read or seen anything
[06:24] <ProGEEK> other than whats on the wiki
[06:25] <Namidairo> the flasher references nightly builds
[06:25] <ProGEEK> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Contribute#Building_and_publishing_Touch_Preview_images
[06:25] <johncrist1988> sk789, No, you cannot put anything on an iPhone. Except iOS. That is by design by Apple and nobody can do anything about it.
[06:25] <omac> obfuscation by providing drowning amounts of source code :)  16GB of sources? ouch.  I guess it will my largest emacs TAGS file ever :)
[06:25] <Yugge> sk789: No, not unless it starts running android first.
[06:25] <Hashcode> So I'm playing around w/ my Kindle Fire port of the Touch Preview and it looks to have booted, I have adb access.. but no screen..
[06:25] <johncrist1988> Oh sweet
[06:26] <Namidairo> mmm, a jenkins instance
[06:26] <Hashcode> Anything I should be looking for in adb?
[06:26] <ali1234> i'm no actually sure why it says 16GB...
[06:26] <Namidairo> ...logcat?
[06:26] <ali1234> du * -sh doesn't seem to add up to 16GB
[06:26] <Hashcode> logcat just stops at some point
[06:26] <Hashcode> does ubuntu part still write to it?
[06:26] <dk> hrm
[06:27] <Namidairo> dunno
[06:27] <dk> held down power button, it powered off
[06:27] <Hashcode> I can see that the mini-android booted
[06:27] <dk> no, nothing will wake it bqack up
[06:27] <ali1234> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1704569/
[06:27] <Namidairo> logcat and last kmesg to pastebin anyway
[06:27] <PhantomGamers> i dont have any screen on my sgs3 port of it either
[06:27] <PhantomGamers> logcat: http://pastebin.com/wqwEqRsR
[06:27] <omac> if logcat is not logging, it's a sign that your phone is off(power save mode).
[06:27] <Hashcode> And I have ubuntu/system and ubuntu/vendor mounted
[06:27] <Namidairo> ali1234: IIRC repo downloads the other branches too and stores them in .repo
[06:27] <omac> wake it up by pressing the power button, or touching it every so often.
[06:27] <ali1234> Namidairo: bingo
[06:28] <ali1234> .repo is ~9GB
[06:28] <PhantomGamers> Hashcode, if you figure anything out let me know, I'll do the same, maybe we have the same problem
[06:28] <Namidairo> and when I say iirc i mean, when I looked at how big my cm-10.1 .repo was a couple hours ago
[06:28] <Hashcode> This is my logcat http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=8Xinvq0V
[06:28] <ali1234> are people porting this already? if so, is there a central list of who is working on what yet?
[06:29] <PhantomGamers> anything before that?
[06:29] <ProGEEK> lol@cyanogenmod
[06:29] <omac> please consider using the eclipse ide with the android plugin.  It helps for debugging.  If you're just shoving files over to the device, then yeah just do adb push.
[06:29] <Namidairo> hiding it would be a crime
[06:29] <ali1234> ProGEEK: the build has cyanogenmod boot animation
[06:29] <Namidairo> :P
[06:29] <ali1234> but it does not play
[06:29] <PhantomGamers> E/qdoverlay(  269): cannot open framebuffer(1)
[06:29] <PhantomGamers> E/qdoverlay(  269): initOverlay failed
[06:29] <PhantomGamers> E/qdcopybit(  269): open_copybit: dlsym ERROR
[06:29] <ali1234> it's in there though
[06:29] <ProGEEK> oh really? nice
[06:29] <PhantomGamers> im noticing that
[06:29] <PhantomGamers> in mine
[06:29] <Hashcode> Lemme see my kmsg
[06:30] <Namidairo> ali1234: im gonna start porting as soon as the last 2 frakking repos finish syncing
[06:30] <Namidairo> lol
[06:30] <ali1234> Namidairo: what device?
[06:30] <Namidairo> tf201
[06:30] <ali1234> nice
[06:30] <bzoltan> omac:  QtCreator is the best tool for QML application development.
[06:30] <Namidairo> i already have a working cm-10.1 repo for that device lying around so it shouldn't be too much work
[06:31] <ali1234> is anyone trying to port it to non-android/libhybris?
[06:31] <ali1234> just bring up the UI on regular ubuntu...
[06:31] <ProGEEK> tf201... transformer ?
[06:31] <Hashcode> PhantomGamers: I can see this in my kmsg
[06:32] <Hashcode> starting 'ubuntu_chroot'
[06:32] <Namidairo> ProGEEK: robots in disguise.
[06:32] <Hashcode> starting 'compcache'
[06:32] <ProGEEK> <3
[06:32] <Hashcode> But obviously I have several services fail from missing bins
[06:32] <Hashcode> cannot find '/system/bin/ubuntuappmanager', disabling 'ubuntuappmanager'
[06:32] <Namidairo> although I think im gonna want to expand this ext4 partition
[06:32] <Namidairo> not enough room here atm
[06:32] <Hashcode> Yeah I'm tight
[06:32] <PhantomGamers> last_kmsg is only generated when the kernel fails?
[06:32] <Hashcode> crash usually
[06:32] <omac> bzoltan:  QML applications is dedicated to QT stuff, but somebody above was talking about adb stuff and logcat.  How far does QT go with supporting connecting/transferring/debugging on real devices?
[06:33] <Hashcode> I'm fully booted up
[06:33] <Hashcode> I just have no screen
[06:33] <PhantomGamers> i dont have adb myself someone else pulled that logcat, i think it's something with my system though not my phone
[06:33] <Hashcode> starting 'drm'
[06:33] <PhantomGamers> so i cant pull kmsg on boot
[06:33] <Hashcode> PhantomGamers: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Xvrmqiij
[06:33] <PhantomGamers> so the kindle is omap4? not qcom?
[06:33] <Hashcode> yeah it's omap4
[06:33] <PhantomGamers> hm, that makes me less hopeful that our problems are the same lol
[06:34] <Hashcode> This is the 1st gen.. only 512MB RAM which may be an issue
[06:34] <Hashcode> I can try booting it on the KFireHD tho
[06:34] <Namidairo> thats pretty tight on ram, but workable
[06:34] <bzoltan> omac:  It is getting there. But nobody stops developers to fix and use other development tools. For QML application development the QtCreator 2.7 release is the best what can be used.
[06:34] <Namidairo> you'd still have 150-200mb left after boot
[06:34] <akanurlan> does anybody know how to make visible nexus 7 as /sdcard/ in ubuntu?
[06:35] <Hashcode> Well w/o the UI loaded.. I have 359MB free atm
[06:35] <PhantomGamers> well has anyone SUCCESSFULLY got ubuntu working on another device?
[06:35] <Hashcode> Oh
[06:35] <PhantomGamers> maybe there's a key step we're missing
[06:35] <johncrist1988> PhantomGamers, I have it running on my laptop :\
[06:35] <Hashcode> nit: process 'ubuntu_chroot', pid 109 exited (status = 00000100)
[06:35] <PhantomGamers> lol
[06:35] <Namidairo> are you just straight using the device repos from cm-10.1?
[06:36] <PhantomGamers> yeah
[06:36] <ProGEEK> Hashcode, what if you run that from adb as root ?
[06:36] <Hashcode> http://phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb
[06:36] <Hashcode> I just sync'd it down and added my device/vendor
[06:36] <Hashcode> and kernel
[06:36] <Namidairo> and you managed to get it to build without changing anything?
[06:37] <Hashcode> Well I had to do a few patches
[06:37] <PhantomGamers> i had to change some stuff to get it to build
[06:37] <rsalveti|afk> PhantomGamers: I ported to galaxy tab 2 7.0, and will demonstrate tomorrow at http://ubuntuonair.com
[06:37] <PhantomGamers> with bionic
[06:37] <PhantomGamers> and display-caf
[06:37] <Hashcode> But I always do
[06:37] <rsalveti|afk> with the proper guide and such :-)
[06:37] <rsalveti|afk> things will be on-line in a few hours
[06:37] <Hashcode> They forked cm10.1 about a week before my patches
[06:37]  * Namidairo slaps him
[06:37] <Hashcode> If they'd forked it later, I could have built w/o any changes
[06:37] <akanurlan> does anybody know how to make visible nexus 7 as /sdcard/ in ubuntu?
[06:37] <PhantomGamers> rsalveti|afk, you work for canoncial then?
[06:37] <rsalveti|afk> yup
[06:37] <PhantomGamers> awesome
[06:38] <rsalveti|afk> Hashcode: just tell me later what do you need to be updated
[06:38] <rsalveti|afk> we can sync and rebase
[06:38] <rsalveti|afk> now I need to be real afk, get some sleep :-)
[06:38] <rsalveti|afk> talk to you guys tomorrow
[06:38] <Namidairo> i think there was some stuff in bionic with optimisations
[06:38] <PhantomGamers> night man
[06:38] <ky4eryavii_pon4o> hi
[06:38] <Hashcode> I'll get you a date :)
[06:38] <Hashcode> night
[06:38] <ky4eryavii_pon4o> есть кто из россии ? )
[06:39] <Namidairo> ...nyet?
[06:39] <PhantomGamers> lol
[06:39] <Adel> HHey guyz, I have a small question, and couldn't seem to get the answer over the internet... I know that for now ubuntu phone OS has been released for the Galaxy Nexus phones, however any idea if the Galaxy S3 might be able to run the OS anytime soon?
[06:39] <Namidairo> soon.
[06:39] <llstarks> rsalveti|afk, we're working on d2vzw, the north american gs3
[06:39] <PhantomGamers> Adel, what s3?
[06:39] <PhantomGamers> ^
[06:39] <faninx> anyone know where are the font files?
[06:39] <llstarks> we may beat you to it
[06:39] <ky4eryavii_pon4o> hey
[06:39] <PhantomGamers> i hope so
[06:39] <Adel> international
[06:39] <Hashcode> I wonder if there's like a logfile I can look at for this boot
[06:39] <ky4eryavii_pon4o> can i install ubuntu os on nexus s ?
[06:39] <Adel> i9300
[06:40] <Namidairo> why can't you all just get along...
[06:40] <Namidairo> ky4eryavii_pon4o: not yet. It's up to someone to port it over.
[06:40] <PhantomGamers> international s3 is different hardware
[06:40] <PhantomGamers> lol
[06:40] <akanurlan> does anybody know how to make visible nexus 7 as /sdcard/ in ubuntu?
[06:40] <PhantomGamers> exynos
[06:40] <faninx> I want to replace the fonts  to support chinese
[06:40] <llstarks> anyone want a logcat of ubuntu touch on a d2vzw?
[06:40] <Hashcode> rsalveti|afk my patches were in CM10.1 after 1/26: frameworks/base, frameworks/av and hardware/ti/omap4xxx
[06:40] <llstarks> i booted it, but no screen
[06:40] <PhantomGamers> i posted the logcat above llstarks
[06:41] <omac> akanurlan:  to push files to the device, use adb push.  But there is setup involved.  http://desire.giesecke.tk/tutorial-adb-on-xubuntu/
[06:41] <llstarks> my precious logcat!
[06:41] <PhantomGamers> Hashcode has the same problem with his omap device
[06:41] <Adel> So will it be supported in the future?
[06:41] <PhantomGamers> Adel, most likely yes
[06:41] <Namidairo> im probably gonna have to merge in stuff from frameworks/base as well
[06:41] <PhantomGamers> not officially but yeah
[06:41] <omac> akanurlan:  when you do adb devices, do you see your tablet/phone?
[06:42] <Hashcode> Was still pre- 4.2.2 which is nice if canonical didn't want to tackle that yet.
[06:42] <faninx> i use ddms, can't find any folder like font folder
[06:42] <Adel> PhantomGamers, what about this? http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
[06:42] <akanurlan> omac: i see id of device and "device" text
[06:42] <PhantomGamers> i have no idea about that
[06:43] <Adel> Thanks alot
[06:43] <wgrant> Adel: The porting guide will be released on Friday, after which I'm sure a port to the GS3 will spring up
[06:44] <wgrant> Since it's a fairly popular phone :)
[06:44] <Namidairo> in about...
[06:44] <zeke> anyone know of an image for galaxy s3
[06:44] <Namidairo> 8 hours or so
[06:44] <PhantomGamers> zeke, there are 100 million galaxy s3s
[06:44] <llstarks> wgrant, the zips being produced so far can only be described as cmbuntu
[06:44] <Adel> I would like to know what exactly is Ubuntu for Android. Anyone got a clue?
[06:44] <faninx> The apps in desktop "available for download" can be downloaded? or just icon?
[06:44] <Namidairo> inb4 someone links him a google images jpg of a galaxy s3
[06:45] <PhantomGamers> LOL
[06:45] <Namidairo> it's what he asked for is it not
[06:45] <ali1234> so the phablet repo just builds the android base system?
[06:45] <ali1234> not the ubuntu root file system, correct?
[06:45] <Hashcode> yeah it's the mini-android which is used to chroot
[06:45] <Hashcode> The 500mb .zip file is the ubuntu file system
[06:45] <faninx> I clicked , no  response
[06:45] <ali1234> so how is that part built?
[06:46] <zeke> what channel are we in i figured the question was implied
[06:46] <Namidairo> have you tried flashing that over
[06:46] <Namidairo> lol
[06:46] <omac> akanurlan:   http://pastebin.com/vM5aZ5HF
[06:47] <akanurlan> omac: thanks a lot!
[06:47] <Namidairo> lol udev rules
[06:47] <Namidairo> that brings me back
[06:47] <Namidairo> the alternative is to just sudo, but that's just a pita for some
[06:47] <SpeeDeh> is the camera slow to initialise?
[06:47] <Namidairo> that and you may be required to adb kill-server as well
[06:48] <jaitaiwan> Hi guys, I had to install the images manually (sideload said error closed) and I get a blank screen after the google logo disappeared on nexus 4. What have i done?
[06:48] <Hashcode> PhantomGamers: I'm failing on some of the ubuntu_chroot commands
[06:48] <PhantomGamers> i wish i could get a ksmg
[06:48] <PhantomGamers> kmsg*
[06:48] <PhantomGamers> llstarks, :P
[06:48] <Hashcode> For instance I don't have a dev mount in /data/ubuntu
[06:48] <wgrant> jaitaiwan: What does 'adb logcat' say?
[06:48] <Namidairo> lolwut
[06:48] <Hashcode> or sys
[06:49] <Hashcode> or run
[06:49] <Hashcode> And I'm fairly certain that's where it's failing
[06:49] <wgrant> Hashcode: That suggests that you didn't flash the big zip
[06:49] <Namidairo> ima be in meld, figuring out what changed.
[06:49] <jaitaiwan> a fair amount of error messages
[06:50] <wgrant> jaitaiwan: If you run adb shell, does /data/ubuntu exist?
[06:50] <rsalveti|afk> Hashcode: make sure the config changes are done correctly
[06:50] <rsalveti|afk> just a sec
[06:50] <Hashcode> Oh
[06:50] <Hashcode> I bet I need to make these dir's in the init.*.rc
[06:50] <rsalveti|afk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1704686/
[06:50] <Hashcode> thank you sir
[06:50] <rsalveti|afk> otherwise the container will not work
[06:51]  * rsalveti|afk really really of now :-)
[06:51] <rsalveti|afk> enjoy guys
[06:51] <Hashcode> BoardConfig.mk ok for these?
[06:51] <rsalveti|afk> *off
[06:51] <SpeeDeh> argh, my device has intermittent connection issues since installing ubuntu
[06:51] <Hashcode> Thanks again
[06:51] <Namidairo> GO TO SLEEP DAMN YOU
[06:51] <jaitaiwan> wgrant I can't see the directory because of permission denied. Should I be in recovery mode to do this?
[06:51] <Namidairo> i think these go in the defconfig
[06:51] <Hashcode> NM you're right
[06:51] <Namidairo> judging by their naming and is not set
[06:51] <Hashcode> turning these on and I'll toss a new kernel in
[06:51] <wgrant> jaitaiwan: try adb root
[06:51] <Namidairo> sigh, time to create a new branch
[06:52] <Namidairo> TO THE GITHUB!
[06:52] <faninx> the ubuntu os no root permission?
[06:52] <Hashcode> PhantomGamers: I bet that's your issue too
[06:53] <PhantomGamers> ooo
[06:53] <PhantomGamers> thanks
[06:53] <jaitaiwan> wgrant: no /data/ubuntu doesn't exist
[06:53] <PhantomGamers> kernel config?
[06:53] <Hashcode> yeah
[06:53] <wgrant> jaitaiwan: Which device, and how did you try to flash it?
[06:53] <Hashcode> I'm just adding an ubuntu_defconfig
[06:53] <SpeeDeh> [sudo] password for phablet:
[06:53] <Namidairo> arch/arm/configs/bleh
[06:53] <SpeeDeh> i dont see the password listed in the documentation
[06:53] <llstarks> PhantomGamers, yo
[06:54] <llstarks> need a kmsg?
[06:54] <SpeeDeh> anyone know?
[06:54] <wgrant> jaitaiwan: And what does 'df -h /data' say?
[06:54] <wgrant> SpeeDeh: 'phablet'
[06:54] <Namidairo> it is listed
[06:54] <PhantomGamers> no we were missing kernel configs lol
[06:54] <SpeeDeh> lawl, ty
[06:54] <Namidairo> the password is phablet
[06:54] <llstarks> eh?
[06:54] <jaitaiwan> wgrant: Nexus 4. Sideload wouldn't work so I pushed the zips and installed in order according to http://autonome.wordpress.com/2013/02/21/installing-ubuntu-phone-demo-on-galaxy-nexus-from-mac-os-x/
[06:54] <Namidairo> that probably does not solve the whole problem
[06:54] <llstarks> do you need my phone as a guinea pig?
[06:54] <wgrant> jaitaiwan: The big 500MB zip contains /data/ubuntu
[06:54] <SpeeDeh> To run as user phablet (required to run apps in an initialized session): su - phablet
[06:54] <wgrant> jaitaiwan: Make sure you have enough space for that and flash it again
[06:54] <SpeeDeh> thats all i see in the doc
[06:54] <Namidairo> its somewhere else
[06:55] <SpeeDeh> ah k
[06:55] <wgrant> SpeeDeh: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes#User_Accounts
[06:55] <PhantomGamers> llstarks, im using my phone ;P
[06:55] <SpeeDeh> i also noticed the timezone file says "phone-services" but it says theres an option for tablet-services, which id ont have
[06:55] <SpeeDeh> clearly i installed the wrong one
[06:56] <jaitaiwan> wgrant: should be right, it is a new 16gb phone
[06:56] <PhantomGamers> Hashcode, let me know if that works for you
[06:56] <Hashcode> yeah making changes now
[06:56] <Hashcode> I don't think these options are going to hurt anything, I might just add them on as default for my android kernel
[06:57] <Namidairo> i presume that the build system still works with ccache
[06:57] <Namidairo> ja?
[06:57] <SpeeDeh> Error: no write permission for file "/etc/phone-services/"
[06:57] <Hashcode> yeah it's the CM10.1 build
[06:57] <jaitaiwan> wgrant: Once I've reflashed that large zip, am I cool to reboot the device normally?
[06:57] <SpeeDeh> i typed sudo!
[06:57] <Namidairo> that's nice dear
[06:58] <wgrant> jaitaiwan: Yeah, hopefully it'll boot then
[06:58] <wgrant> jaitaiwan: But it might be worth confirming that /data/ubuntu exists after that
[06:58] <Namidairo> go repo sync, sync those repos at atrociously slow speeds!
[06:59] <jaitaiwan> wgrant: it exists now... restarting.
[06:59] <wgrant> jaitaiwan: That's a better sign
[06:59] <SpeeDeh> is there a reason that sudo edit /etc/phone-services says i dont have write permission?
[07:00] <jaitaiwan> wgrant: all good. thanks muchly for your help!
[07:00] <dr_gogeta86> hi
[07:00] <Namidairo> perhaps it resides on /system, which is normally mounted ro
[07:00] <dr_gogeta86> wich is the package for graphic server ?
[07:02] <PhantomGamers> building
[07:03] <street> hey all
[07:03] <faninx> adb root     works
[07:03] <street> quick question any1 know if they will be supporting a10 devices
[07:04] <Namidairo> a10...?
[07:04] <street> allwinner
[07:04] <street> system on a chip
[07:04] <Namidairo> ahahahahaha
[07:05] <street> any1 from ubuntu admin?
[07:06] <schasch> hi, ...adb shell  gives an "error:  gives a device not found"    : how should be the /dev/-name?  mine is /dev/libmtp-1-1  ?
[07:06] <SpeeDeh> good ideanami
[07:06] <schasch> ubunut is running
[07:06] <SpeeDeh> but adb remount didnt resolve the issue =(
[07:08] <schasch> lsusb shows "Bus 001 Device 060: ID 04e8:6860 Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd GT-I9100 Phone [Galaxy S II]"  ???
[07:08] <SpeeDeh> hey i have that phone <3
[07:09] <omac> schasch:  that's not the Galaxy Nexus/Nexus 4/Nexus 7
[07:09] <Tommy_> hi gays
[07:09] <SpeeDeh> nor the nexus 10!
[07:09] <schasch> omac : yes Gnex ...
[07:09] <schasch> i do not know why?
[07:09] <PhantomGamers> the config changes didnt fix it for me ;( Hashcode
[07:09] <Hashcode> getting ready to fastboot mine
[07:09] <Hashcode> now
[07:09] <schasch> flashes it yesterday on other notebook
[07:09] <schasch> and I am nw working in vmware
[07:10] <PhantomGamers> maybe i missed one lol, i thought i was pretty thorough though
[07:10] <omac> schasch:  Are you saying your GTI9100 [GALAXY S II] from your lsusb is coming from your Galaxy Nexus phone?
[07:10] <SpeeDeh> Error: no write permission for file "/etc/phone-services/"
[07:11] <Hashcode> PhantomGamers: I copy/pasted those onto the end of my original config and then copied it back over once a .config was made
[07:11] <caner> hi guys
[07:11] <PhantomGamers> oh
[07:11] <schasch> omac : yes!  its a galaxy nexus with ubunut from yesterdy
[07:11] <Hashcode> it puts them back in order
[07:12] <PhantomGamers> i went and changed the ones that existed and added the ones that didnt manually
[07:12] <caner> how to install ubuntu phone on galaxy nexus ??
[07:13] <omac> caner:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[07:13] <schasch> omac : could it be the cable?
[07:13] <PhantomGamers> im not getting the fatal error in logcat
[07:13] <PhantomGamers> I/rmt_storage(  438): Error (-1) parsing MBR partitions
[07:13] <caner> thank you omac.
[    0.228536] ram_console: uncorrectable error in header
[07:15] <PhantomGamers> thats in kmsg
[07:15] <Hashcode> hrm
[07:15] <Hashcode> for me I don't see dev or sys yet
[07:16] <Hashcode> even with those items
[07:16] <omac> schasch:  GALAXY S II(GTI9100)   is not Galaxy Nexus (GT-I9250)
[07:16] <omac> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galaxy_Nexus
[07:16] <omac> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S_II
[07:17] <PhantomGamers> i just pulled in cm's external/kernel-headers
[07:17] <SpeeDeh> this may sound dumb, but do i need to reboot the device after setting timezone
[07:17] <PhantomGamers> maybe thats related to my issue
[07:17] <PhantomGamers> outdated
[07:17] <topshelf> So, does anything other than the time actually change on the "lock screen"?
[07:17] <SpeeDeh> oh nm i didnt read it
[07:17] <omac> They are related, but the Galaxy Nexus does not seem to be the successor of Galaxy S
[07:18] <ImmutableObject> does anyone know if you can connect an android phone to a live cd version of ubuntu for installing the ubuntu phone os
[07:19] <zack> hello?
[07:19] <schasch> omac : yes rebootet phone , change cable...9250 is still shown as 9100 in lsusb in my vmware ???
[07:19] <kemcafe> hi guys, can i sync contact with a google account or others one?
[07:19] <omac> ImmutableObject:  Possibly if you have a ton of RAM.  I wouldn't attempt it that way however.
[07:19] <topshelf> In fact, does anything change on the home screen?
[07:19] <ImmutableObject> thanks omac
[07:20] <Hashcode> PhantomGamers: Try this: go back into recovery and make these dirs under /data/ubnuntu
[07:20] <Hashcode> er /data/ubuntu
[07:20] <SpeeDeh> finally my tablet has the correct time =D
[07:20] <Hashcode> dev, sys and run
[07:21] <PhantomGamers> i dont have /data/ubuntu at all
[07:21] <PhantomGamers> o.o
[07:21] <PhantomGamers> you're getting further than i am i guess
[07:21] <wgrant> PhantomGamers: You need to reflash the big (500MB) zip
[07:21] <wgrant> Make sure you have enough space :)
[07:21] <zack> which image is the correct one for a nexus 7 tablet?
[07:21] <PhantomGamers> what 500MB zip
[07:21] <SpeeDeh> but i still cant delete the sample content
[07:21] <wgrant> PhantomGamers: quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip
[07:22] <zack> thanks
[07:22] <vanhoof> fourfthawaiian: you're on n7, yeah?
[07:22] <PhantomGamers> i never flashed that
[07:22] <wgrant> zack: The N7's codename is 'grouper'
[07:22] <Hashcode> lol
[07:22] <Hashcode> That'd do it :P
[07:22] <kemcafe> hi guys, can i sync contact with a google account or other ones?
[07:22] <wgrant> zack: But if you use the phablet-flash tool it'll do that for you
[07:23] <zack> i'm trying to mulitboot
[07:23] <PhantomGamers> dling now
[07:23] <PhantomGamers> if this is the reason it wasnt working...
[07:23] <PhantomGamers> herp
[07:23] <SpeeDeh> quantal-preinstalled-armel+grouper.zip and quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip
[07:23] <PhantomGamers> it probably was
[07:23] <SpeeDeh> ^ those are the only 2 i flashed
[07:23] <PhantomGamers> so flash armhf and then flash the build?
[07:23] <PhantomGamers> or the other way arounf?
[07:23] <PhantomGamers> or does it matter?
[07:23] <wgrant> PhantomGamers: Shouldn't matter
[07:23] <SpeeDeh> i flashed them in the order i just copied
[07:23] <SpeeDeh> only cause its alphabetical
[07:24] <wgrant> PhantomGamers: But quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip is the one that contains the actual Ubuntu installation
[07:24] <wgrant> Everything else is just boot bits
[07:24] <omac> ImmutableObject:  make sure your phone is plugged into a power supply, and make sure your computer has a UPS(uninterruptible Power Supply).  That's the way to mitigate screwing up the recipe half-way through.  The phone can't go off because of low-battery and the computer won't go off if there's a power outage.
[07:24] <Hashcode> I flashed the build.zip and then the phablet rootfs one
[07:24] <PhantomGamers> pushing to sdcard
[07:24] <SpeeDeh> there are several files, did i really only need 2?
[07:24] <Hashcode> There really should be a way to see what's going on after chroot
[07:25] <schasch> omac : woll reboot my host...
[07:26] <omac> schasch:  I didn't understand.  clarify "woll reboot my host"
[07:26] <ImmutableObject> omac: thanks, I guess I'll make sure to use an always on usb port in case
[07:26] <mike253> hey hashcode, hows it goin?
[07:26] <Hashcode> sorta working through it
[07:26] <Hashcode> no screen yet
[07:27] <mike253> need any help for m-devices?
[07:27] <Hashcode> not yet :)
[07:28] <SpeeDeh> Camera, video decoding and audio output do not function
[07:28] <mike253> lol alright man, d4 pretty much ready to be tested just did a fresh backup
[07:28] <SpeeDeh> ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[07:28] <SpeeDeh> Now i see why
[07:28] <SpeeDeh> that makes me sad
[07:28] <mike253> lol @SpeeDeh its basically like a placeholder
[07:28] <SpeeDeh> lol
[07:28] <SpeeDeh> so basically every app
[07:28] <SpeeDeh> does not function
[07:28] <SpeeDeh> at all
[07:28] <SpeeDeh> wait
[07:28] <SpeeDeh> photos works
[07:28] <SpeeDeh> thats it
[07:28] <mike253> phone works as well
[07:29] <SpeeDeh> i have a tablet
[07:29] <mike253> from what ive seen on the gsm tab
[07:29] <mike253> not tab but nexus lol
[07:29] <schasch> omac : could you tell me your LINE incl. IS from lsusb and your /dev/* name from 9250?
[07:29] <mike253> but yeah.. thats a big prob lol
[07:29] <wgrant> Camera and audio don't work on the N7, but should work on the others AFAIK
[07:29] <SpeeDeh> i think for some reason i have a phone version installed
[07:29] <PhantomGamers> still no screen hmmm
[07:29] <schasch> or someene else?
[07:29] <SpeeDeh> wgrant, ya, just N7 =(
[07:30] <mike253> @SpeeDeh check out the one you downloaded?
[07:30] <meetingology> mike253: Error: "SpeeDeh" is not a valid command.
[07:30] <SpeeDeh> In rare circumstances, the Nexus4 may get into a state where it may not boot at all after the battery is drained ( even into recovery ). If this happens, the only way to restore it is to disassemble the back of the phone and unplug/plug the battery connector.
[07:30] <ali1234> SpeeDeh: "N7 runs in portrait mode by default" - i take this to mean "it runs like a phone"
[07:30] <SpeeDeh> i am too a valid command
[07:30] <ali1234> since there's only one root filesystem
[07:30] <SpeeDeh> who said i was invalid
[07:30] <x1nux> hi
[07:30] <SpeeDeh> this is an outrage
[07:30] <PhantomGamers> Hashcode, i have everything in /data/ubuntu
[07:30] <omac> schasch:  I don't have any of these Nexus devices.   Ask somebody else here to provide you with Galaxy Nexus config file stuff.
[07:30] <mike253> lolol i seen that on the warning stuff
[07:30] <SpeeDeh> ali, i think so too
[07:31] <x1nux> can i install ubuntu-phone in Samsung Galaxy S2 and S3 ?
[07:31] <Hashcode> PhantomGamers: look in /data/ubuntu/sys, proc and dev to make sure those are mounted
[07:31] <Hashcode> er
[07:31] <ali1234> x1nux: no not yet
[07:31] <schasch> omac : ok, thanks
[07:31] <Hashcode> if you can adb in
[07:31] <PhantomGamers> i can
[07:31] <x1nux> ali1234,  ok Thks !
[07:31] <PhantomGamers> they are mounted
[07:31] <mike253> x1nux if you can port it
[07:31] <PhantomGamers> no screen though
[07:31] <Hashcode> hrm
[07:32] <SpeeDeh> not gonna lie, the lack of a persistent back button is annoying for contacts/photos
[07:32] <mike253> hashcode is the porting guide going to be any use too us? i mean we have the cm10.1 kernel n all thanks to you lol
[07:32] <PhantomGamers> if it helps us get a screen it will lol
[07:32] <schasch> hello, could someone tell/print me the line in lsusb and the /dev/_name? from 9250 gnex with installed ubuntu-phone ?
[07:32] <x1nux> but can be done .. Installing Ubuntu on the Samsung S3 and S2? ...
[07:32] <Hashcode> mike253: and we'll need the kexec kernel it looks like.  there's a set of config items that need to be on.
[07:32] <mike253> SpeeDeh i bet lol i tried it out on the nexus it was irritating
[07:33] <haxxa> Hello
[07:33] <PhantomGamers> for some reason it takes ages for adb to detect the device
[07:33] <Hashcode> hm
[07:33] <haxxa> Just installed Ubuntu on GNexus :D
[07:33] <SpeeDeh> yeah... up > back > next contact > up > back > next contact
[07:33] <PhantomGamers> my kmsg is spanish
[07:33] <PhantomGamers> tssinsaecagdfo ildt otso
[07:34] <PhantomGamers> what does that mean
[07:34] <mike253> hashcode: what type of config files that are needed? and have you talked to dhacker bout it lol?
[07:34] <haxxa> Anyone got any idea how to close apps? I'm unsure
[07:34] <wgrant> Do a long swipe from the bottom
[07:34] <Hashcode> mike253: need to enable some kernel options
[07:34] <schasch> haxxa : me too, but adb is not working:
[07:34] <wgrant> To the settings/menu icon
[07:34] <PhantomGamers> tssinsaecagdfo ildt otso
[07:34] <PhantomGamers> 6[ 5.834 nt bnussinsaecagdfo otso osatn
[07:34] <PhantomGamers> 6[ 5.847 nt adigsatn vn
[07:34] <PhantomGamers> 6[ 5.872 nt bnussinsaecagdfo trigt r-tr
[07:34] <PhantomGamers> 6[ 5.895 nt bnussinsaecagdfo r-tr osand
[07:34] <wgrant> Where you can hit the close button
[07:34] <schasch> haxxa :  could you tell/print me the line in lsusb and the /dev/_name? from 9250 gnex with installed ubuntu-phone ?
[07:35] <haxxa> sure
[07:35] <Kopik> Hi, Im trying to install on nexus 7 from Ubuntu on VirtualBox, after it pushes autodeploy.zip it states that device has to be unlocked, device goes to fastboot (where it states "LOCK STATE - UNLOCKED") and then nothing happens, any ideas?
[07:35] <haxxa> Bus 002 Device 003: ID 04e8:6860 Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd GT-I9100 Phone [Galaxy S II], GT-P7500 [Galaxy Tab 10.1]
[07:35] <mike253> hashcode: when was the last time kexec was worked on lol? from the github it says ~4 months or so lol.
[07:35] <Hashcode> PhantomGamers: I'm not seeing that :p
[07:36] <wgrant> Kopik: Check your USB passthrough filters. fastboot appears as a different device ID
[07:36] <PhantomGamers> i think satan possessed my phone
[07:36] <matrix> hi >(
[07:36] <mike253> Kopik: might have to do it from ubuntu natively or from a live cd..
[07:36] <PhantomGamers> 34149]Snosust ff
[07:36] <SpeeDeh> wonder how these canonical people about having all their contact info posted
[07:36] <SpeeDeh> lol
[07:36] <Hashcode> mike253: I'm rebuilding it
[07:36] <Hashcode> https://github.com/STS-Dev-Team/kernel_mapphone_kexec/commits/stock-ics
[07:36] <PhantomGamers> i dont think this is an actual language
[07:36] <x1nux> well .. i will wait ... ubuntu installation in S2 and S3 ...
[07:36] <haxxa> wgrant I'm still sort of confused - I'm sorry for been a pain but do you mind going into a tad more detail - sorry
[07:36] <x1nux> Bye Thks !
[07:37] <ali1234> SpeeDeh: i don't think they are real people
[07:37] <SpeeDeh> they all have photos
[07:37] <SpeeDeh> and valid emails
[07:37] <PhantomGamers> E/linker  ( 1742): ics/linker.c:1072| ERROR: Library '/system/lib/libubuntu_application_api.so' not found
[07:37] <PhantomGamers> im getting that in logcat
[07:37] <wgrant> haxxa: If you swipe up from the bottom of the screen with your right thumb, you'll see a menu button thing part way up the screen
[07:37] <SpeeDeh> the phone numbers appear to be their business lines though
[07:37] <SpeeDeh> however, they could all be fake =)
[07:37] <gattinthahat> has anyone flashed this on toro?
[07:37] <Hashcode> You're getting farther than me then
[07:37] <haxxa> In an app?
[07:37] <wgrant> haxxa: Yes
[07:38] <Hashcode> PhantomGamers: I'm still hung up waiting for something in logcat
[07:38] <gattinthahat> I would love to flash on toro even if radio isnt working
[07:38] <schasch> haxxa : thanks for lsusb: and the /dev/???-name ?
[07:38] <SpeeDeh> balls
[07:38] <ziff> hello, just loaded ubuntu phone on my galaxy nexus and the time is wrong is there a way to correct this?
[07:38] <SpeeDeh> my device froze
[07:38] <schasch> haxxa : is yout sdb shell working?
[07:38] <mike253> Hashcode: i didnt even notice that..  now is that leading up to the ubuntu recently or just time to work on it?
[07:38] <PhantomGamers> maybe i should try my build with the newer kernel-headers for shits and giggles
[07:38] <SpeeDeh> ziff: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes#Sample_content
[07:38] <haxxa> yes
[07:38] <faninx_> working
[07:38] <SpeeDeh> scroll down to timezone
[07:38] <schasch> haxxa : s/sdb/adb
[07:38] <Hashcode> mike253: I needed to rebuilt it from the ground up anyway
[07:38] <matrix> touch don work
[07:39] <Hashcode> PhantomGamers: can you post a logcat?
[07:39] <matrix> on nexus7
[07:39] <SpeeDeh> it works on my nexus 7
[07:39] <SpeeDeh> just not very well
[07:39] <SpeeDeh> at all
[07:39] <gattinthahat> anyone here no how to install on toro?  I dont mind if the radio is broken
[07:39] <PhantomGamers> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1704884/ Hashcode
[07:39] <wgrant> matrix: Which screen are you on?
[07:40] <wgrant> matrix: If it's the "14 new tweets" one, swipe from the side to unlock
[07:40] <matrix> 14 tweets
[07:40] <PhantomGamers> im not getting the CYANOGEN text anymore but i was before i flashed the data zip
[07:40] <PhantomGamers> oh
[07:40] <PhantomGamers> i am
[07:40] <PhantomGamers> im just blind
[07:40] <Hashcode> Wow, your modem is so chatty
[07:40] <mike253> Hashcode: gotcha. last time i was on the cm10.1 kernel google+ would just start fcing on me lol so i switched back to cm10 12/18 i believe.
[07:40] <matrix> ohhhh
[07:40] <matrix> txs
[07:40] <PhantomGamers> it is lol
[07:40] <haxxa> wow closing apps seems ridiculous, I should be able to close all apps with one button otherwise os feeels solid so far
[07:41] <PhantomGamers> E/linker  (  473): ics/linker.c:1072| ERROR: Library '/system/lib/libis_compat_layer.so' not found
[07:41] <PhantomGamers> that might be a problem too
[07:42] <SpeeDeh> every time i unplug from USB i get a settings page
[07:43] <SpeeDeh> how do i access that page normally
[07:43] <mike253> Hashcode: Is there any way to "backport" the drivers? some keys dont work correctly for cm10 and i would like to backport them so i can have some functionality back. is that possible?
[07:43] <mike253> SpeeDeh: check the notifications bar?
[07:43] <haxxa> Also I made all these new friends and now I live in london according to the ubuntu os - thats cool with me
[07:43] <SpeeDeh> nothin
[07:43] <SpeeDeh> i get individual settings if i hover over sound, etc
[07:43] <schasch> haxxa : my adb is sya "no device" your dev name is /dev/libmtp-1-1 ? or wich one?
[07:44] <SpeeDeh> but when i unplug, i get this large android style page
[07:44] <SpeeDeh> with large icons
[07:44] <SpeeDeh> of settings
[07:44] <matrix> how back pages _
[07:44] <SpeeDeh> matrix: swipe up from bottom
[07:44] <mike253> SpeeDeh: too bad that dont have a way of taking a logcat like how you can on android..
[07:44] <matrix> okok
[07:45] <haxxa> just reinstall abd and reboot otherwise just install a temp ubuntu install on your comp
[07:45] <SpeeDeh> itll get there eventually
[07:46] <Hashcode> This is my problem
[07:46] <Hashcode> execve("/sbin/init", ["/sbin/init", "--verbose"], [/* 7 vars */]) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
[07:46] <PhantomGamers> hmm
[07:46] <Hashcode> I have no sbin dir
[07:46] <Hashcode> in /data/ubuntu
[07:46] <Hashcode> I wonder if I have kind of a screwy install
[07:47] <PhantomGamers> yeah you should have one
[07:47] <haxxa> anything else I should know or have fun with the new os - I plan to an app soon after...
[07:47] <PhantomGamers> i do
[07:47] <vanhoof> vanhoof@brooklynzoo:~$ adb shell ls /data/ubuntu/sbin -d
[07:47] <vanhoof> /data/ubuntu/sbin
[07:47] <kemcafe> is there any way to sync my contact from a google account guys, thanks
[07:47] <vanhoof> Hashcode: ^
[07:47] <Hashcode> yeah
[07:48] <Hashcode> that's probably why I didn't have a dev/sys/proc dir
[07:48] <haxxa> can we connect usb?
[07:48] <Hashcode> I'm not getting my rootfs stuff here
[07:48] <haxxa> So I can transfer things
[07:48] <Hashcode> PhantomGamers: is the /sbin dir a copy or a mount?
[07:49] <PhantomGamers> seems to be a copy
[07:49] <PhantomGamers> maybe im wrong though
[07:49] <PhantomGamers> how do i check 100%?
[07:50] <ali1234> kemcafe: no
[07:50] <Hashcode> Oh
[07:50] <Hashcode> I see it
[07:50] <PhantomGamers> i ran ls -l and it seemed it was actually located there
[07:50] <PhantomGamers> so
[07:50] <Hashcode> This didn't seem to run correctly
[07:50] <Hashcode> from the phablet script
[07:50] <Hashcode> run_program("/sbin/mv", "/data/ubuntu_tmp_extract/binary/casper/filesystem.dir", "/data/ubuntu");
[07:50] <kemcafe> thanks
[07:50] <Savatte> hi
[07:50] <haxxa> hi
[07:51] <Savatte> is there a way to install ubuntu on my already rooted N7 directly from W8 ?
[07:51] <damian_> hmm. hey. I just installed Ubuntu on my Nexus 7, "Once completed, device should boot intu Ubuntu" - but I cant do anything once its booted up. or i just dont know how to unlock it.
[07:51] <damian_> anyone has an idea/hint for me?
[07:52] <haxxa> How come I can't use available for download apps
[07:52] <ProGEEK> right im back, how you haxx0rs getting on
[07:52] <SpeeDeh> swipe to the left
[07:52] <SpeeDeh> damian
[07:52] <SpeeDeh> haxxa i think all the available apps for download is just a teaser
[07:52] <SpeeDeh> nothing happens for me when i touch em
[07:53] <damian_> yep, a second ago it worked, but now it does not anymore, or is there a specific number of fingers i have to use
[07:53] <SpeeDeh> 13 fingers
[07:53] <damian_> ahh ok from the right end of the tablet
[07:53] <Hashcode> PhantomGamers: It is located there, my flash didn't work right
[07:53] <damian_> thats complicated. :D
[07:53] <SpeeDeh> it wont be like that in the future i believe
[07:53] <SpeeDeh> its some oddity with the N7
[07:53] <Hashcode> I only have a 1GB /data partition on the KFire so I sort of haxor'd the flash of the filesystem .zip
[07:53] <PhantomGamers> ooh
[07:54] <Hashcode> I may need to re-partition
[07:54] <Hashcode> How much space is used on your /data?
[07:54] <haxxa> lol at the music aop
[07:54] <Hashcode> df
[07:54] <PhantomGamers> 5.8GB
[07:54] <PhantomGamers> apparently
[07:54] <Hashcode> er
[07:55] <Hashcode> Oh
[07:55] <Hashcode> it's combined w/ /sdcard
[07:55] <PhantomGamers> ooh
[07:55] <PhantomGamers> yeah
[07:55] <PhantomGamers> correct
[07:55] <PhantomGamers> hm
[07:55] <Hashcode> Can you backout the /sdcard #?
[07:55] <damian_> is there a way to get the keyboard-click-sound back? its really weird to not get any feedback while typing, at least for me..
[07:55] <PhantomGamers> how?
[07:55] <PhantomGamers> (im a bit of a linux n00b)
[07:56] <SpeeDeh> no idea damian
[07:56] <SpeeDeh> oh
[07:56] <SpeeDeh> the N7 has no audio out
[07:56] <SpeeDeh> thats why lol
[07:56] <Akiva-Thinkpad> who's the dev here involved with openstreetmaps.org?
[07:56] <damian_> mh. :D
[07:56] <Hashcode> PhantomGamers: how much is used by /storage/sdcard0?
[07:56] <damian_> weird: remaining charge 39% but the battery icon is already really low-red
[07:56] <PhantomGamers> can i df a specific folder?
[07:57] <haxxa> well that was fun - I'll try u out in another 6 monthes back to android for now
[07:57] <Hashcode> du -d 1 /data/ubuntu
[07:57] <Hashcode> er
[07:57] <Hashcode> well there's a ton of mounts in there
[07:57] <Hashcode> *grumble*
[07:57] <Blih> How can we update the image? They will be OTA?
[07:58] <josteink> Im probably the 100000th person to ask this
[07:58] <PhantomGamers> 4588272 /sdcard
[07:58] <josteink> but how do I enter SIM code and enable GSM?
[07:58] <PhantomGamers> 4481 MB
[07:58] <Hashcode> 5.8 for the whole thing
[07:58] <PhantomGamers> 5635 MB for whole thing
[07:58] <Hashcode> !@#@!#
[07:58] <damian_> is there a way to end running apps?.. GMail is stuck in some network error thingy
[07:58] <Hashcode> 1.2gb /data
[07:58] <PhantomGamers> yeah
[07:58] <PhantomGamers> lol
[07:59] <mzanetti_> josteink: entering PIN  not supported yet. use another phone to disable the PIN on you SIM
[07:59] <PhantomGamers> du is useful
[07:59] <Hashcode> Yeah I'm fucked unless I repartition
[07:59] <josteink> mzanetti_: ugg
[07:59] <josteink> mzanetti_: right. thanks.
[07:59] <Hashcode> Or do a loopdev /data from my internal storage
[07:59] <SpeeDeh> swipe up in the app and click the lil gray icon that appears in the middle
[07:59] <SpeeDeh> then ull see an X at the bottom
[08:00] <josteink> SpeeDeh: are you talking to me?
[08:00] <Namidairo> the out folder itself will probably take another 20gb
[08:00] <Namidairo> lol
[08:00] <damian_> GMail app is a webapp? :S
[08:00] <SpeeDeh> no to damian
[08:00] <PhantomGamers> so i need to figure out where im supposed to get libubuntu_application_api.so from
[08:01] <PhantomGamers> the mako zip has it
[08:01] <damian_> thanks for your help. think ill play around a bit and revert to android until there's something "more" for my nexus 7 :)
[08:02] <Namidairo> i dont know why people are flashing a developer preview and trying to use it as a daily
[08:02] <PhantomGamers> Hashcode, do you have that file in your build?
[08:02] <PhantomGamers> system/lib/libubuntu_application_api.so
[08:03] <Hashcode> no but i think it's in the filesystem dir
[08:03] <PhantomGamers> system/lib/libis_compat_layer.so too
[08:03] <Hashcode> once you're chrooted
[08:03] <Hashcode> oh hrm
[08:03] <PhantomGamers> well it's in the mako build zip
[08:03] <Hashcode> system is your actual system
[08:03] <PhantomGamers> yeah
[08:03] <PhantomGamers> it's not included in my system
[08:03] <PhantomGamers> for some reason
[08:04] <SpeeDeh> nami not to devalue the work that's gone into ubuntu touch, but to call this a developer build is a stretch, audio doesnt even work
[08:04] <PhantomGamers> i dont see it in the source repo anywhere
[08:04] <Hashcode> I have none of those
[08:04] <Namidairo> lol
[08:04] <PhantomGamers> so we must be missing something else too
[08:04] <SpeeDeh> if i wanted to develop for the platform, id be waiting for a bit :)
[08:04] <Namidairo> SpeeDeh: QML preview?
[08:04] <Hashcode> hm
[08:05] <wgrant> SpeeDeh: Audio should work on non-N7 devices
[08:05] <SpeeDeh> yeah
[08:05] <Hashcode> Reflashed the .zip and I have a full rootfs now
[08:05] <Hashcode> in /data/ubuntu
[08:06] <Hashcode> yeah
[08:06] <SpeeDeh> i expect good things though
[08:06] <Hashcode> E/linker  (  402): ics/linker.c:1072| ERROR: Library '/system/lib/libubuntu_application_api.so' not found
[08:06] <Hashcode> So I think
[08:06] <PhantomGamers> hmm
[08:06] <Hashcode> that's going to be part of porting this
[08:06] <SpeeDeh> ive had ubuntu on my laptop for years
[08:06] <Hashcode> I should pull from gnex's system flash.zip
[08:06] <PhantomGamers> yeah
[08:06] <Hashcode> PhantomGamers: Have you tried pulling from mako?
[08:06] <PhantomGamers> ill pull from mako lol
[08:06] <PhantomGamers> doubt itll work
[08:07] <Hashcode> it's almost like you could flash the mako system
[08:07] <Namidairo> no
[08:07] <Hashcode> edit the build.zip's install to not format /system
[08:07] <Hashcode> and flash over it
[08:07] <Hashcode> w/ the custo one
[08:07] <Hashcode> custom one
[08:08] <Hashcode> Just the /system files Namidairo :P not boot or anything else
[08:08] <PhantomGamers> rebooting
[08:08] <PhantomGamers> no screen
[08:09] <Hashcode> Whats lib linker say?
[08:09] <PhantomGamers> waiting for adb to be picked up
[08:09] <PhantomGamers> takes a minute
[08:09] <PhantomGamers> hmm
[08:10] <PhantomGamers> E/linker  (  468): ics/linker.c:1072| ERROR: Library '/system/lib/libis_compat_layer.so' not found
[08:10] <PhantomGamers> hmm
[08:10] <PhantomGamers> same thing
[08:10] <PhantomGamers> it doesnt exist
[08:10] <PhantomGamers> it's like it got deleted
[08:10] <PhantomGamers> what
[08:11] <ziff> has anyone managed to get the phones data connections working instead of using wireless
[08:11] <PiZZaMartijn> Are there somewhere build instructions available for touch?
[08:12] <PhantomGamers> PiZZaMartijn, init, sync, build.
[08:12] <PhantomGamers> those are the instructions
[08:12] <PhantomGamers> lol
[08:12] <PiZZaMartijn> PhantomGamers: ok and where is the git?
[08:12] <PhantomGamers> http://phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb
[08:12] <PhantomGamers> i pushed the files from ubuntu adb
[08:12] <PhantomGamers> and rebooted
[08:14] <PhantomGamers> it sticks now but still no boot
[08:14] <PhantomGamers> log time
[08:14] <PiZZaMartijn> hmm i'm supposed to use git://phablet.ubuntu.com/git-repo.git ?
[08:14] <Hashcode> I'm rebooting now w/ maguro files
[08:14] <PhantomGamers> that error is gone
[08:14] <PhantomGamers> I/ServiceManager( 1352): Waiting for service UbuntuApplicationManager...
[08:14] <PhantomGamers> it's looping with that
[08:15] <Hashcode> yep
[08:15] <Hashcode> same
[08:15] <PhantomGamers> it's good that we're on the same page at least
[08:15] <derv> help
[08:15] <PhantomGamers> derv, how specific
[08:15] <PhantomGamers> :P
[08:15]  * PhantomGamers gives derv help.
[08:16] <baaba> how do i get root on the ssh connection opened through qt creator?
[08:16] <Hashcode> I have a feeling we don't have all of the files we need
[08:16] <PhantomGamers> yeah
[08:16] <PhantomGamers> thatd likely
[08:16] <derv> hahah well I guess adb isnt picking up my galaxy nexus
[08:16] <PhantomGamers> thats*
[08:16] <baaba> it looks like dpkg-dev is missing (no dh_make)
[08:16] <baaba> i mean, not installed
[08:16] <PhantomGamers> i wonder if this is something we're doing wrong or if the repo is messed up
[08:17] <PhantomGamers> E/linker  ( 2565): ics/linker.c:1598| WARNING: Skipping libc.so im seeing this too
[08:17] <PhantomGamers> quite a bit
[08:18] <digim0nk> any info on how the OS can be ported to other devices
[08:18] <Hashcode> yeah
[08:18] <Hashcode> the linker messages are.. odd
[08:18] <Kyle> digim0nk: Pretty sure they're releasing a chunk today
[08:18] <SpeeDeh> baaba: dpkg-reconfigure works
[08:18] <PhantomGamers> are you seeing the same libc warning?
[08:18] <Kyle> digim0nk: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting -- watch this I suppose
[08:18] <PhantomGamers> my build actually has a libc.so though
[08:19] <Hashcode> mine too
[08:19] <digim0nk> Kyle: Motorola Xoom ??
[08:19] <PhantomGamers> this log could be more verbose lol
[08:19] <Hashcode> oh
[08:19] <Hashcode>  /system/bin/ubuntuappmanager
[08:19] <NameAlwaysInUse> Hello
[08:20] <PhantomGamers> oh
[08:20] <PhantomGamers> i dont have that
[08:20] <PhantomGamers> hmm
[08:20] <Hashcode> its in the maguro build
[08:20] <NameAlwaysInUse> i just have a question to the installation on a nexus 4 can someone /w me?
[08:20] <PhantomGamers> and the mako
[08:20] <SpeeDeh> hashcode what are u guys doin
[08:20] <PhantomGamers> porting
[08:20] <baaba> SpeeDeh: hmm?
[08:20] <PhantomGamers> time to copy that too
[08:20] <SpeeDeh> they are doing a presentation on that in 7 hours =D
[08:20] <baaba> SpeeDeh: i'm not entirely sure how dpkg-reconfigure will help me; i'm trying to build a c++ project
[08:21] <baaba> but it fails on missing dh_make
[08:21] <PhantomGamers> who wants to wait for that ;P
[08:21] <baaba> i assume that's because dpkg-dev isn't installed
[08:21] <SpeeDeh> baaba: make sense
[08:21] <SpeeDeh> makes*
[08:21] <baaba> but now i need to get root so i can actually install it
[08:21] <Hashcode> I have screen :)
[08:21] <PhantomGamers> if my adb wasnt acting up i probably would too
[08:21] <PhantomGamers> haha
[08:21] <NameAlwaysInUse> hmm ok why my screen is black after installing on n4? and how can i fix it
[08:21] <baaba> but i'm not sure how
[08:21] <SpeeDeh> baaba: ubuntu_chroot shell
[08:22] <PhantomGamers> Hashcode, we need to figure out why these files arent included in the build itself
[08:22] <Hashcode> so apparently this process works :)
[08:22] <baaba> ah, thanks
[08:22] <Hashcode> yeah those are missing oddly
[08:22] <Hashcode> Look I have 14 tweets
[08:22] <SpeeDeh> what device u on hashcode
[08:22] <PhantomGamers> i dont have a screen
[08:22] <Hashcode> Kindle Fire
[08:22] <PhantomGamers> hm
[08:23] <ali1234> lol this is terrible
[08:23] <ali1234> how do i go back in the browser?
[08:23] <ProGEEK> NameAlwaysInUse, try rebooting into recover, and wiping data, and
[08:23] <ProGEEK> *cache
[08:23] <SpeeDeh> swipe up
[08:23] <SpeeDeh> then click back
[08:23] <Hashcode> So this will run on 512MB ram
[08:23] <ali1234> LOL
[08:23] <Hashcode> MemFree:            5288 kB
[08:24] <ali1234> it doesn't work
[08:24] <PhantomGamers> oh
[08:24] <Namidairo> free
[08:24] <PhantomGamers> it didnt stick for me
[08:24] <PhantomGamers> again
[08:24] <SpeeDeh> swipe up from the bottom
[08:24] <SpeeDeh> to expose the menu
[08:24] <fish1209> this only work on the nexus so far?    going to try it on my LG Intuition
[08:24] <PhantomGamers> nvm it did im retarded
[08:24] <PhantomGamers> Hashcode, did you just adb push it?
[08:24] <Namidairo> fish1209: enjoy your brick
[08:24] <Hashcode> yes but make sure to set perm
[08:24] <fish1209> lol bricked it once no biggie
[08:24] <ali1234> SpeeDeh: i did that. i see "back". i press it. nothing happens, browser does not go back
[08:24] <PhantomGamers> maybe i need to do that lol
[08:24] <SpeeDeh> ah
[08:24] <PhantomGamers> what is it supposed to be? 755?
[08:24] <Namidairo> theres no way it will work
[08:24] <SpeeDeh> it went back for me
[08:24] <SpeeDeh> i went to google!
[08:25] <Kyle> fish1209: don't even bother until someone ports it..
[08:25] <Namidairo> anyway
[08:25] <fish1209> Kyle, ok
[08:25] <Namidairo> how come that stuff isn't a package_include
[08:25] <ali1234> SpeeDeh: i signed in to gmail, which offered me "get the app" so i clicked it
[08:25] <Hashcode> yeah 755
[08:25] <Kyle> fish1209: because in it's current state, it'll 100% not work for your device since the builds right now are meant for the nexus devices
[08:25] <SpeeDeh> it tries to load the itunes page
[08:25] <SpeeDeh> dont do that
[08:25] <ali1234> SpeeDeh: it refered me to a itms link, which brings up an error, and i cannot back
[08:25] <SpeeDeh> lol
[08:25] <ProGEEK> lol SpeeDeh i hit that one last night
[08:25] <Hashcode> It's fairly smooth on the kfire
[08:26] <SpeeDeh> lol
[08:26] <ali1234> and now there is no way out
[08:26] <fish1209> Kyle, yeah was thinking that after looking at wiki
[08:26] <Kyle> well, most of the builds, Hashcode :p
[08:26] <ProGEEK> kill the app
[08:26] <SpeeDeh> swipe up farther till you see a button pop up
[08:26] <Namidairo> now see if the screenshot shortcut still works
[08:26] <SpeeDeh> swipe to the button
[08:26] <PhantomGamers> there
[08:26] <PhantomGamers> we have screen
[08:26] <SpeeDeh> and click the X in the bottom when the page pops up
[08:26] <PhantomGamers> Hashcode, i love you
[08:26] <Hashcode> This dummy data is funny
[08:26] <Namidairo> otherwise, just ddms a screenshot out
[08:26] <Hashcode> :)
[08:26] <AlanBell> !lola | Hashcode
[08:26] <ali1234> i did that
[08:26] <PhantomGamers> my screen seems to be frozen
[08:26] <PhantomGamers> nvm
[08:27] <ProGEEK> so what two devices have just been semi-ported ?
[08:27] <ali1234> gmail mobile is completely rubbish compared to the android app
[08:27] <ProGEEK> KFire and ?
[08:27] <SpeeDeh> sure is ali
[08:27] <Hashcode> S3
[08:27] <ProGEEK> neato
[08:27] <Hashcode> There's a hitch to the KFire tho
[08:27] <ProGEEK> you haxxors
[08:27] <ali1234> and this swipe interface is confusing as hell
[08:27] <PhantomGamers> does wifi not work?
[08:27] <Hashcode> I need to talk to the devs about getting the ro.sf.hw.rotation stuff in
[08:27] <Kyle> Hashcode: Hmm, someone already hacked a copy to work on the S3?
[08:28] <gattinthahat> not very impressed with the developer preview wished more things were working
[08:28] <Hashcode> I'm fairly sure PhantomGamers is on a S3
[08:28] <PhantomGamers> yes
[08:28] <PhantomGamers> i am
[08:28] <bhoj> ali1234, it just takes you to mobile page of gmail ... its reminds me of gmail on nokia n72 but things will change soon :)
[08:28] <Kyle> PhantomGamers: having fun?
[08:28] <Namidairo> the d2vzw though
[08:28] <PhantomGamers> ^
[08:28] <Namidairo> not the international one
[08:28] <PhantomGamers> Kyle, yeah
[08:28] <AlanBell> gattinthahat: it is more of a "people at MWC" preview than a developer preview
[08:28]  * Kyle has a d2vzw :p
[08:28] <ProGEEK> now, get it running on my toaster and i'll love you long time
[08:28] <PhantomGamers> you should join #verizons3
[08:28] <ali1234> AlanBell: i can't believe they're actually going to show this to people
[08:28] <Namidairo> lol
[08:29] <PhantomGamers> how to turn screen off
[08:29] <Hashcode> I was just thinking this
[08:29] <Namidairo> yeah it seems a bit rough to show at mwc
[08:29] <Hashcode> I can't turn the screen off
[08:29] <gattinthahat> yeah i know still wished there was more,  however if they realease some more i would be very interested in running it
[08:29] <Namidairo> but then again last time all they were showing was it running on a galaxy nexus
[08:29] <ProGEEK> Hashcode, bucket of cold water should turn the screen off :p
[08:29] <Namidairo> which for one, actually has soun working
[08:29] <SpeeDeh> maybe they have an even more top secret version running @ MWC
[08:29] <Hashcode> I should check sound
[08:29] <Kyle> ^^ Wouldn't surprise me :/
[08:29] <ProGEEK> all seriousness though, are the butten events right for those devices ?
[08:29] <Hashcode> Lol ProGEEK
[08:29] <Hashcode> my touch is fine
[08:30] <SpeeDeh> thats what she said
[08:30] <NameAlwaysInUse> ProGEEK i have tried it... but the same
[08:30] <Hashcode> >.>
[08:30] <Namidairo> touch should be fine, but the buttons are usually gpios are they not
[08:30] <ProGEEK> you dunked it in a bucket of water ?
[08:30] <Hashcode> Well
[08:30] <Hashcode> I have 1 button :P
[08:30] <ali1234> what is the orange line at the bottom of the screen supposed to represent?
[08:30] <Hashcode> and it's a power button
[08:30] <Namidairo> lol
[08:30] <SpeeDeh> that u can swipe
[08:30] <SpeeDeh> like android
[08:30] <SpeeDeh> or IOS dots
[08:30] <ProGEEK> can you listen for events in ubuntu when you press that button ?
[08:30] <Namidairo> please don't bring iOS analogies into this
[08:31] <SpeeDeh> but its 100% the same
[08:31] <gattinthahat> it  shows what screen you are on
[08:31] <ali1234> oh lol it does different things depending if you swipe from the edge or from the mddle
[08:31] <ali1234> i thought it was just randomly doing stuff
[08:31] <ProGEEK> lol ali1234
[08:31] <Hashcode> wonder how I get my wifi up
[08:31] <ProGEEK> take it you didnt watch the promo videos lol
[08:31] <Namidairo> im syncing the last repo and its taking forever
[08:31]  * Namidairo claps at his 90kb/s speeds
[08:31] <Hashcode> not even a little
[08:31] <Hashcode> Ok I did :P
[08:31] <josteink> is SMS supposed to work?
[08:32] <ProGEEK> Namidairo, 78KiBs here :p
[08:32]  * josteink has two factor auth with google, but Im not getting anything
[08:32] <SpeeDeh> bed time nn
[08:32] <ali1234> ProGEEK: why would i do that? nobody who actually buys this will do that
[08:32] <ali1234> if i have to watch a 30 minute video to learn how to use it, it has failed
[08:32] <Namidairo> I still have to repartition this and backup my /data
[08:32] <ProGEEK> ali1234, cause its a developer preview, most people research an experimental OS before installing it
[08:32] <Hashcode> Is rotation supposed to work?
[08:32] <SpeeDeh> when you introduce a new method of interacting with the device, you need to be shown
[08:33] <SpeeDeh> but the video is only 4:30 long
[08:33] <ali1234> Hashcode: no
[08:33] <Hashcode> Okie
[08:33] <Namidairo> sensors are dummy too
[08:33] <Hashcode> Ah
[08:33] <SpeeDeh> technically its 6:30 but only the first 4:30 is the demo
[08:33] <vanhoof> Hashcode: does on grouper
[08:33] <Hashcode> So I'm assuming real ports will probably require some interaction layer
[08:33] <ali1234> why does it say "search" in top left?
[08:33] <ali1234> how do i access that?
[08:33] <Hashcode> IE: for sensors, camera, etc
[08:33] <ProGEEK> ali1234, you cant yet
[08:33] <vanhoof> Hashcode: pull down the top layer slightly and move right and left for settings
[08:34] <ali1234> oh :(
[08:34] <ali1234> what is it supposed to do?
[08:34] <Namidairo> laggy Hashcode?
[08:34] <ProGEEK> well, not on my version anyway
[08:34] <Hashcode> no
[08:34] <ProGEEK> Hashcode, used memory, active or cached ?
[08:34] <Namidairo> yes, adb shell then post the output of free
[08:35] <Hashcode> This is meminfo
[08:35] <Hashcode> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=ir3HAGhL
[08:35] <Hashcode> and this is free
[08:35] <Hashcode> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=ytNE6rk1
[08:36] <ProGEEK> ah so 68 megs is cached ram, the rest is in use
[08:36] <gattinthahat> well gotta have a phone flash back to android then time to sleep
[08:36] <Hashcode> My HD codec binary uses a fairly large chunk atm
[08:36] <Kyle> back ups are fun
[08:36] <Hashcode> It should be less, but I can't recompile it
[08:36] <Hashcode> unless TI open sources their ducati stuff (psst ndec)
[08:36] <AlanBell> ali1234: I think it is probably demonstratable with a script of actions you perform, depart from the script at your peril ;)
[08:37] <Namidairo> who the heck runs their znc off aws
[08:37] <Hashcode> Looks like I'm running into swap slightlyu
[08:37] <ali1234> is there anything in this that works that isn't just a browser window?
[08:37] <AlanBell> photos?
[08:37] <ProGEEK> ew it has swap ?
[08:38] <Hashcode> Yes it does :P
[08:38] <ProGEEK> gag
[08:38] <Hashcode> only about 15mb tho
[08:38] <Hashcode> used currently on a 512MB ram device
[08:38] <Hashcode> *shrug*
[08:38] <ProGEEK> yes cause that makes perfect sense, 15 meg swap lol
[08:38] <Namidairo> and this is why they say 2gb min on the page for NEW devices
[08:38] <Hashcode> oh it's a100mb
[08:38] <ProGEEK> ok that makes a little more sense
[08:38] <Hashcode> 100mb swap total
[08:38] <ali1234> lol how do you go back in photos?
[08:39] <Hashcode> 1GB devices will be fine
[08:39] <Namidairo> in most cases
[08:39] <Hashcode> Maybe not for full desktop experience
[08:39] <ProGEEK> cant wait till they build in docking mode
[08:39] <AlanBell> what happens with rotation? is it always portrait or always landscape or can it dynamically change?
[08:39] <ProGEEK> i plug in my hdmi cable and nothing happens :(
[08:39] <ali1234> AlanBell: it never changes
[08:39] <ali1234> AlanBell: N10 is landscape the others are portrait
[08:39] <Hashcode> Anyway, I'm off :)
[08:40] <ProGEEK> later Hashcode
[08:40] <ProGEEK> good work man
[08:40] <Namidairo> Hashcode: watch the damned porting hangout later
[08:40] <Hashcode> I'll bug the devs at some point about the hw.rotation stuff
[08:40] <AlanBell> ali1234: ok, I thought that was the case from the videos
[08:40] <Hashcode> Yep
[08:40] <Hashcode> Need to figure out why 3 files are missing from the device build
[08:40] <Namidairo> its in about... 6 hours 20 min from now
[08:40] <ProGEEK> ditto Namidairo
[08:40] <PhantomGamers> i added the files to my devices prop files
[08:40] <PhantomGamers> so they get included in builds
[08:41] <Namidairo> are they in some common folder in vendor?
[08:41] <Hashcode> I should look
[08:41] <lewix> hi
[08:41] <ProGEEK> need to set my alarm for 4am
[08:41] <PhantomGamers> idk where they're supposed to be
[08:42] <Hashcode> But they don't seem to be "buildable"
[08:42] <kaduk> can anyone help me to restoring my andriod?
[08:42] <lewix> & good morning from italy :)
[08:42] <ali1234> can you zoom in photos?
[08:42] <lewix> maybe my question is not new: can i install ubuntu phone on nexus one too?
[08:42] <josteink> lewix: no
[08:42] <ProGEEK> ali1234, pinch
[08:42] <PhantomGamers> Hashcode, does wifi work for you?
[08:43] <ali1234> ProGEEK: doesn't work
[08:43] <josteink> lewix: only on nexus 4, galaxy nexus and nexus 7
[08:43] <ProGEEK> does for me
[08:43] <josteink> iirc
[08:43] <AlanBell> ali1234: pinch is apparently very jerky
[08:43] <ali1234> it doesn't work at all
[08:43] <kaduk> help me restoring android plz
[08:43] <ProGEEK> device ?
[08:43] <Hashcode> erm
[08:43] <ali1234> N7
[08:43] <kaduk> nexus 4
[08:43] <norbert> Is it possible to install ubuntu phone on Galaxy S3?
[08:43] <PhantomGamers> what s3
[08:43] <ProGEEK> cant help ali1234, N4
[08:44] <Hashcode> PhantomGamers: My screen has height/width reversed
[08:44] <ali1234> sometimes it goes to previous or next photo
[08:44] <Namidairo> lol
[08:44] <ProGEEK> nice
[08:44] <AlanBell> kaduk: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install#Restoring_Android
[08:44] <PhantomGamers> my screen is fine but wifi doesnt seem to function
[08:44] <PhantomGamers> or im just doing it wrong
[08:44] <Hashcode> Well I know why
[08:44] <Hashcode> We're rotated by 270 degrees and we use a ro.sf.hw.rotation prop in surfaceflinger to fix it
[08:44] <Hashcode> apparently we're not fixing quite everything which gets passed through to Ubuntu
[08:45] <kaduk> AlanBell im stuck at instruction number 4
[08:45] <Namidairo> moreso that it probably just ignores the hell out of it
[08:45] <PhantomGamers> ubuntu doesnt seem to have any form of rotation anyway
[08:45] <lewix> @josteink oooh ok thank you
[08:45] <meetingology> lewix: Error: "josteink" is not a valid command.
[08:45] <ali1234> even calculator is just a static image
[08:45] <Namidairo> lol
[08:45] <ali1234> how hard is it to make a calculator lol
[08:46] <Namidairo> @echo fart
[08:46] <meetingology> Namidairo: Error: "echo" is not a valid command.
[08:46] <PhantomGamers> camera doesnt work for me either
[08:46] <AlanBell> kaduk: if it ends in .zip then unzip file.zip if it ends in .tgz then tar -zxvf file.tgz
[08:46] <Hashcode> if I had a choice I'd just set it landscape and be done
[08:46] <Hashcode> for the Kindle
[08:46] <AlanBell> meetingology: part #ubuntu-phone
[08:46] <Namidairo> LOL
[08:47] <Hashcode> Anyway, night guys
[08:47] <Hashcode> fun times :)
[08:47] <PhantomGamers> night man
[08:47] <PhantomGamers> thanks again :D
[08:47] <ProGEEK> right PhantomGamers, get it running on my toaster :p
[08:47] <PhantomGamers> mail me your toaster
[08:47] <norbert> I would like to try Ubuntu phone on my galaxy S3 is that possible?
[08:48] <PhantomGamers> what s3 do you have bro
[08:48] <ProGEEK> suppose i had beter go buy a toaster then lol
[08:48] <ali1234> norbert: no
[08:48] <norbert> And how can I make sure I save the firmware?
[08:48] <PhantomGamers> ._.
[08:48] <ProGEEK> ali1234, it works on PhantomGamers
[08:49] <ProGEEK> Kicking back watching Dads Army, Writing Ubuntu Phone apps, geekdom at its finest
[08:50] <norbert> PhantomGamers: I have no idea what you mean, sorry :-)
[08:50] <PhantomGamers> there's more than one galaxy s3
[08:50] <Namidairo> PhantomGamers: and that's how you tell who not to distribute your files to
[08:50] <PhantomGamers> multiple variants
[08:50] <norbert> ali1234: thanks. Too bad for me.
[08:50] <NameX> hi, is it possible to install ubuntu phone by a ubuntu desktop in virtualbox ?
[08:50] <PhantomGamers> it sounds to me like you have the i9300
[08:51] <Namidairo> thats probably what they use in... the netherlands?
[08:51] <mutantkeyboard> hello people ...
[08:51] <ProGEEK> wont "About Phone" tell you ?
[08:51] <carpediem75> hi all
[08:51] <norbert> PhantomGamers: Indeed I have a GT-i9300
[08:51] <ali1234> well time to reflash android
[08:51] <PhantomGamers> yeah so your device doesnt have ubuntu phone yet
[08:51] <Namidairo> please don't say yolo swag
[08:51] <PhantomGamers> but it probably will
[08:51] <PhantomGamers> in the future
[08:52] <carpediem75> i have installed ubuntu for tablet right now on my nexus7. do someone know where is the "off" button?
[08:52] <ProGEEK> PhantomGamers, what's yours?
[08:52] <PhantomGamers> d2vzw
[08:52] <mutantkeyboard> ali1234: just a word of gentile warning. Only limited and basic functionality is available
[08:52] <PhantomGamers> verizon galaxy s3
[08:52] <ProGEEK> mutantkeyboard, awesome nick :D
[08:52] <starks> PhantomGamers, flashing
[08:52] <mutantkeyboard> :)
[08:52] <ali1234> mutantkeyboard: that's rather an understatement don't you think?
[08:53] <PhantomGamers> awesome :) starks
[08:53] <mutantkeyboard> carpediem75: just hold a power for a long time
[08:53] <ProGEEK> ali1234, its a Developer Preview, keyword preview
[08:53] <PhantomGamers> maybe it's just me but it feels like iphone-level smooth
[08:53] <ali1234> my main problem with this is the swipe interface
[08:53] <ali1234> PhantomGamers: on N7 it runs at about 20fps
[08:53] <PhantomGamers> albeit i find over time the iphone bogs down to performance even worse than android
[08:53] <ProGEEK> i agree ali1234, for me its a tad too sensitive
[08:53] <mutantkeyboard> :) well source will be available soon, so you can make a launcher
[08:53] <carpediem75> thanks mutantkeyboard
[08:53] <PhantomGamers> ali1234, dat shitty tegra 3 XD
[08:54] <ali1234> ProGEEK: it's not the sensitivity, it's just a confusing way to control a phone
[08:54] <mutantkeyboard> no problem buddy
[08:54] <NameX> hi, is it possible to install ubuntu phone by a ubuntu desktop in virtualbox ?
[08:54] <Namidairo> mutantkeyboard: source is already available.
[08:54] <ali1234> ProGEEK: like the lack of back button everywhere
[08:54] <ProGEEK> oh thats just cause you arnt used to it lol
[08:54] <mutantkeyboard> is it?
[08:54] <baaba> hmm, qmake is missing
[08:54] <mutantkeyboard> going to have a look now
[08:54] <Namidairo> PhantomGamers: lets ignore the fact that the device im porting to is tegra 3
[08:54] <ProGEEK> it was like when i went back from iphone to android, i missed that bloody home button
[08:54] <baaba> but installing qt4-qmake would remove qt5-default and qtchooser
[08:54] <starks> PhantomGamers, is the d2vzw build special or is everything in the phablet zip?
[08:54] <baaba> (due to conflicts)
[08:54] <mutantkeyboard> las night I just DL'd it on my phone and reflashed, but I didn't play a lot with it
[08:54] <PhantomGamers> so for clarification wifi works for everyone else?
[08:54] <baaba> is that okay?
[08:54] <carpediem75> NameX, i did it with parallels so i suppose that virtualbox works too
[08:54] <PhantomGamers> starks, everything is in the phablet
[08:55] <ali1234> ProGEEK: the app drawer is bad. i can't see what i am about to select because my hand is in the way
[08:55] <starks> so any cm10.1/cm10.2 will do?
[08:55] <PhantomGamers> 10.2?
[08:55] <PhantomGamers> what
[08:55] <NameX> carpediem75 ty !
[08:55] <starks> 4.2.2 jb builds
[08:55] <PhantomGamers> thats 10.1 lol
[08:55] <starks> nightlies are 4.2.2 aren't they?
[08:55] <PhantomGamers> they didnt change the name
[08:55] <PhantomGamers> :P
[08:55] <starks> oh
[08:55] <PhantomGamers> no you need to use ubuntu builds
[08:55] <ali1234> ProGEEK: the menu that comes up when you swipe from the bottom... is inconsistent and confusing
[08:55] <NameX> Does someone with a Nexus 4 got problem on install or uninstall ?
[08:55] <PhantomGamers> it's just the build itself has the device specific stuff required for it to boot
[08:55] <ProGEEK> yeah that one bugs me slightly
[08:55] <starks> ah
[08:56] <mutantkeyboard> :D
[08:56] <ali1234> basically all the "innovations" this is supposed to showcase... are all bad
[08:56] <starks> rootfs tarball is big
[08:56] <PhantomGamers> yeah
[08:56] <PhantomGamers> touchwiz level almost
[08:56] <PhantomGamers> lol
[08:56] <Namidairo> ali1234: shhh, don't let the children hear
[08:56] <mutantkeyboard> but guys, this is pre-alpha
[08:56] <PhantomGamers> the 50MB build file is misleading
[08:56] <baaba> doesn't look like there's a qt5-qmake on the phone repositories yet :(
[08:56] <Chinakoch> Mhmm...cannot connect my galaxy nexus; an suggestions? [  830.624130] hub 6-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1
[08:56] <mutantkeyboard> I started writing couple of apps this morning
[08:56] <starks> i'm going to test mplayer once this boots
[08:56] <mutantkeyboard> and we'll see how it behaves
[08:56] <AlanBell> ali1234: is the side shelf thing any good?
[08:56] <PhantomGamers> wifi doesnt work for me at all so i cant do anything online
[08:57] <starks> maybe my hi10p animu will finally run properly
[08:57] <Namidairo> does mplayer even have a package on the armhf ppa
[08:57] <ProGEEK> mutantkeyboard, ported SameGame to work on the Ubuntu Phone :)
[08:57] <Namidairo> AHAHAHAHAHA
[08:57] <mutantkeyboard> nice ...
[08:57] <ali1234> AlanBell: i don't know because it only works on N10
[08:57] <mutantkeyboard> :D
[08:57] <PhantomGamers> i guess mplayer isnt what i think it is
[08:57] <AlanBell> ali1234: ok
[08:57] <AlanBell> is it running X or wayland?
[08:57] <ProGEEK> and someone's ported lights off
[08:57] <Namidairo> starks: no. hi10p is a pain on all platforms.
[08:58] <ali1234> AlanBell: btw this is still better than gnome-shell
[08:58] <ali1234> AlanBell: neither
[08:58] <starks> i know. i hope the s5 can do hi10p in software and hevc in hardware
[08:58] <mutantkeyboard> ProGEEK: how do you push an app to a device? via adb or ssh or basic USB tranfer works? I didn't quite have time to read docs
[08:58] <ali1234> AlanBell: it's qt5 patched to run diretly on libhybris
[08:58] <ProGEEK> i used qt creator
[08:58] <mutantkeyboard> aha
[08:59] <AlanBell> interesting
[08:59] <ProGEEK> had a project in there, and one of the options is run on device
[08:59] <ProGEEK> OR
[08:59] <ProGEEK> ctrl+F12
[08:59] <ali1234> if this had a back button and a home button and a homescreen where i can rearrange the icons and widgets i would use it
[08:59] <Swissbite> hi guys (and ladies)
[08:59] <ProGEEK> which will transfer and run the app
[08:59] <ali1234> and if i could disable all gestures
[08:59] <mutantkeyboard> right, thanks man
[08:59] <ProGEEK> NP
[08:59] <Swissbite> Does somebody know if and how it could be installed on a samsung galaxy s3?
[08:59] <PhantomGamers> holy shit
[08:59] <NameX> What's difference with preinstalled / preinstalled boot and preinstalled recovery ???
[09:00] <PhantomGamers> does no one realize how many different s3s there are lol
[09:00] <ali1234> no of course not, why would they?
[09:00] <PhantomGamers> Swissbite, you have an i9300?
[09:00] <ali1234> just keep saying "no"
[09:00] <Swissbite> Yes.
[09:00] <PhantomGamers> no
[09:00] <Swissbite> I do.
[09:00] <PhantomGamers> you cant
[09:00] <PhantomGamers> yet
[09:00] <starks> american phones > european phones
[09:00] <PhantomGamers> american devs > european devs
[09:00] <PhantomGamers> ;)
[09:01] <Swissbite> Yet does not sounds to bad ;-)
[09:01] <Namidairo> what time is it in europe right now
[09:01] <starks> okay
[09:01] <starks> time to boot
[09:01] <starks> will you boot?
[09:01] <AlanBell> @now cet | Namidairo
[09:01] <NameX> What's difference with preinstalled / preinstalled boot and preinstalled recovery ???
[09:01] <AlanBell> gah, wrong bot. Namidairo it is about 9am in the UK
[09:02] <PhantomGamers> as long as it doesnt brick your phone im happy starks
[09:02] <Namidairo> AlanBell: you kicked out your bot
[09:02] <starks> PhantomGamers, nope no screen
[09:02] <Swissbite> The question is: where in europe. London time is now 9am, western europe (paris, switzerland, germany usw) 10 am
[09:02] <PhantomGamers> patience
[09:02] <starks> no adb
[09:02] <AlanBell> Namidairo: there are two, ubot5 is still here meetingology wasn't needed
[09:02] <Namidairo> Swissbite: a couple hours leeway is fine
[09:02] <starks> lemme wipe
[09:02] <magitronic82> when flashing do i need adb over network enabled on my phone
[09:02] <Namidairo> ...no
[09:02] <PhantomGamers> if you wipe you need to reflash quantal
[09:03] <starks> that sucks
[09:04] <Swissbite> PhantomGamers: What is the model number for an s3 in the states?
[09:04] <PhantomGamers> it varies based on carrier
[09:04] <PhantomGamers> my specific phone is sch-i535
[09:04] <RoyalPanda> Hi
[09:04] <ali1234> if i'm in gallery looking at photos and i accidentally swipe too cloce to the right edge, how do i get back to gallery after being dumped into a totally different app at random?
[09:05] <ali1234> you might think swiping the left edge would do the opposite of the right edge, but no. that takes you to the home screen
[09:05] <starks> Swissbite, r530 i747 l710 i535 t999
[09:05] <dk> how do I do a full powerdown ?   press-hold power button for 5 seconds, it goes *off* but reboots back up immediately
[09:06] <Wellark> dk: adb root && adb shell && # reboot -p
[09:06] <RoyalPanda> I have a quick question about hardware development, do I only have to add the default.xml provided there : http://phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb?p=CyanogenMod/android.git;a=blob;f=default.xml;hb=refs/heads/phablet-10.1, on top of a CyanogenMod repo init, in order to download and compile a full phablet rootfs and initrd ?
[09:07] <Wellark> RoyalPanda: Porting Guide should be released later today
[09:07] <RoyalPanda> Is that a no ?
[09:07] <starks> did ricardo give us everything already?
[09:07] <starks> *didn't
[09:07] <remy_mazabraud> hi
[09:07] <Wellark> RoyalPanda: that is "I don't know". :)
[09:07] <PhantomGamers> remy_mazabraud, no it doesnt work on your damn s3
[09:08] <PhantomGamers> RoyalPanda, you need to reinit with that git
[09:08] <Swissbite> quit
[09:08] <ali1234> hmm... N7 is getting nice and hot
[09:08] <Namidairo> RoyalPanda: do note that the ubuntu git is SLOW AS MOLASSES
[09:08] <Eun> Hiho, I wanted to ask if the 3G on Nexus 7 is supported or does it not work like the old attempt?
[09:09] <Namidairo> Eun: no data atm
[09:09] <RoyalPanda> Okay, thanks for the answer, I'll give a try now, then keep an eye on the porting guide page.
[09:09] <dk> right I thought doing reboot -p over ssh would work, but I see why adb shell for poweroff works
[09:09] <Eun> so same as https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Installation?
[09:09] <remy_mazabraud> What do you things about a Porterage to other phone ? ( A samsung galaxi tab p1000) ((Sorry im french and my english is verry bad ..))
[09:10] <fadhil> ./flash-all.sh: 23: ./flash-all.sh: fastboot: not found
[09:10] <fadhil> what next?
[09:10] <Namidairo> read the instructions better
[09:10] <fadhil> help me
[09:11] <fadhil> my phone now at boot loader
[09:11] <Eun> Namidairo: thanks for info, great job answering questions here
[09:11] <Eun> bye
[09:12] <Namidairo> not sure if sarcasm
[09:12] <fish1209> lol
[09:12] <Stokk> Just checking, Ubuntu Touch has no drivers to interface with the computer to allow file transfer as of yet right?
[09:12] <ali1234> Stokk: you can transfer files on ssh
[09:13] <Wellark> Stokk: either adb push or ssh
[09:13] <kiafenghua> oh!
[09:15] <starks> wow it boots
[09:15] <starks> kinda
[09:17] <neary> is anyone working on porting ubuntu touch to the iPhone ?
[09:17] <fish1209> hope not
[09:17] <popey> not at canonical
[09:17] <popey> you're welcome to have a go though ☺
[09:17] <ProGEEK> that would be an abomination
[09:17] <ali1234> breakfast time \o/
[09:17] <Wellark> popey: XD
[09:17] <starks> i'm stuck at an unresponsive home screen
[09:18] <Namidairo> mad
[09:18] <popey> ali1234: time to fry eggs on your n7?
[09:18] <starks> running this on the verizon galaxy s3
[09:18] <wgrant> starks: Home screen as in "14 new tweets"?
[09:18] <starks> ya
[09:18] <ali1234> popey: nah, i just flashed back to android
[09:18] <wgrant> starks: You've tried swiping from the left or right?
[09:18] <starks> yes
[09:18] <ali1234> top and bottom?
[09:18] <starks> touch screen isn't responding
[09:19] <ali1234> it doesn't
[09:19] <kiafenghua> :/NICK kia
[09:19] <ali1234> unless you do the exact right gesture it doesn't do anything at all
[09:19] <starks> there we go lol
[09:19] <ali1234> i'm still not entirely sure what that gesture is, because i just ended up thrashing around on the screen until something happened
[09:19] <lool> starks: do you start from the outside of the screen?
[09:20] <usererror> you have to start from the bezel
[09:20] <lool> you need to start swiping from outside the edges
[09:20] <starks> the swiping is so not obvious lol
[09:20] <usererror> its called a bezel gesture for a reason
[09:20] <usererror> ;)
[09:20] <ali1234> what if your phone doesn't have a bezel?
[09:20] <usererror> they all do
[09:20] <starks> i have a case on lol
[09:20] <ali1234> n7 doens't have a bezel
[09:20] <usererror> its the area of the glass that does not have a display behind it
[09:20] <usererror> yes it does
[09:21] <usererror> that area is considered a bezel
[09:21] <ali1234> a bezel is a raised border
[09:21] <ali1234> my monitor has a bezel
[09:21] <usererror> it is in a picture frame or door molding, but in gestures it is not
[09:21] <ali1234> none of my phones have one though
[09:21] <lool> no need to worry about terminology, but basically you need to swipe from outside the screen into the screen
[09:21] <usererror> ^
[09:21] <lool> at the very border
[09:22] <mric> hey, is there still no way to install Ubuntu touch on the N9 ?
[09:22] <ali1234> no
[09:22] <ali1234> and what do you mean "still"
[09:23] <ali1234> it was only released less than 24 hours ago
[09:23] <mutantkeyboard> hey guys I have a problem
[09:23] <mutantkeyboard> qt-creator can't load plugins. I tried reinstalling it but it doesn't help
[09:24] <mric> yeah sorry, I meant already :)
[09:24] <mainerror> o/
[09:24] <hittu> anyone developed apps already?
[09:25] <RichadrUK> Hi, has any one found the correct way to shut down the device? I have to hold the power button to force close it.
[09:26] <mutantkeyboard> mine works fine by holding power button for a while
[09:26] <mutantkeyboard> which device do you have?
[09:26] <RichadrUK> Yes that's what I have been doing. Seems a bit brutal.
[09:26] <RichadrUK> Nexus 7
[09:27] <mutantkeyboard> yeah, it's N7 specific issue I think. I have a gnexus
[09:27] <starks> can i flash back and forth between cm10.1 and touch if leave quantal in tact?
[09:27] <starks> also, is there any terminal or apt for touch to use?
[09:27] <usererror> no reason you couldn't from what I have noticed
[09:28] <RichadrUK> So other devices get a 'turn it off  or reboot' type dialog?
[09:28] <usererror> you can use the terminal through adb, install openssh-server, and then ssh in over wifi .. then you don't have to use adb
[09:29] <usererror> hold on a sec and I'll come back with the directions
[09:29] <mutantkeyboard> RichardUK: no they don't you don't have a reboot option. only off
[09:29] <mutantkeyboard> yes it's brutal
[09:29] <mutantkeyboard> :D
[09:29] <usererror> adb root
[09:29] <usererror> adb shell
[09:29] <usererror> ubuntu_chroot shell
[09:29] <RichadrUK> Is there a list of apps they would like the comunity to developed?
[09:30] <usererror> those 3 commands will get you into a spot where you can use apt-get over adb, and install what ever.. then with ssh you can do it over wifi
[09:30] <mutantkeyboard> choose anything you like
[09:31] <usererror> if anyone wants an idea, Google Voice app :)
[09:31] <RichadrUK> So far I am really impressed with the UI. At work I work on iOS, WP8 and Android. The UI is way better than WP8
[09:31] <shark> hello! is there someone who tried to flash another tab than nexus 7/10?
[09:31] <usererror> so outgoing calls can use that number.. even cooler if it showed what number the incoming call was going to
[09:46] <d3nial> hey, just installed Ubuntu mobile on my GN, everything seemed to go well until the reboot. Now, nada. Boots with a brief google splash screen, then nothing.
[09:46] <d3nial> anyone else had this issue?
[09:47] <ogra_> d3nial, it seems to happen for people that have a full /sdcard folder in android before flashing
[09:47] <ogra_> (or relatively full)
[09:48] <ogra_> i would start over and format/clean the sdcard folder before
[09:48] <d3nial> ah right, thanks
[09:48] <d3nial> annoying to have to start over, but could have been worst ;)
[09:48] <d3nial> how are people finding it?
[09:49] <alo> Hi! about to flash on my N4, but worried to lose all the content of the /sdcard as there is no sdcard! Can you confirm everything will be wiped?
[09:49] <oddys33> hello i have one question is whatsapp suportet
[09:49] <ogra_> d3nial, we might put something in the installer that checks the card and allows to format during install
[09:51] <d3nial> yeah that could be a good idea, or even a note. I did notice that after the initial file push etc that I had a warning (within android) saying the sdcard was getting full
[09:51] <Vilsafur> hi all
[09:52] <mutantkeyboard> guys ... i still have problems with qt creator. can't load plugins
[09:52] <mutantkeyboard> any suggestion?
[09:52] <hittudiv> +1 cant load plugins
[09:53] <d3nial> hi Vilsafur
[09:54] <rmagyar> mutantkeyboard, install libbotan-1.10 (sudo apt-get install libbotan-1.10-0) to solve the plugin issue
[09:54] <mutantkeyboard> thank you
[09:54] <rmagyar> mutantkeyboard, r u on 12.04 or 12.10?
[09:55] <mutantkeyboard> 12.04
[09:55] <mutantkeyboard> solved
[09:55] <mutantkeyboard> thanks
[09:55] <rmagyar> yw
[09:55] <mutantkeyboard> rmagyar you have a beer from me
[09:56] <hittudiv> thanks rmagyar
[09:57] <Vilsafur> Do you know how to spend updates ?
[09:58] <rmagyar> installed yesterday on my Nexus 7. can't wait to try my first app on it. :-)
[10:06] <Vilsafur> Do you know how happen updates ?
[10:07] <popey> Vilsafur: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes#Upgrades
[10:07] <AlanBell> ogra_: do you know how/if rotation works?
[10:07] <popey> AlanBell: not yet
[10:08] <popey> Good morning Tak
[10:08] <Tak> ohai
[10:08] <yutalar9> how does the user kill a running app on the phone?
[10:08] <Namidairo> by stabbing it
[10:08] <bzoltan> mutantkeyboard:  did you install the ubuntu-sdk as instructed on the developer.ubuntu.com/gomobile  ?
[10:08] <Vilsafur> popey : thanks
[10:09] <LT_Newb> hello
[10:09] <LT_Newb> does anyone know when ubuntu will be available for samsung s3?
[10:09] <popey> when someone ports it
[10:10] <LT_Newb> that's your way of saying "I have no idea at all"
[10:10] <popey> ok
[10:10] <Namidairo> you noticed?
[10:10] <popey> I have no idea at all
[10:10] <ProGEEK> ogra_, a few people in here had that issue today, wiping /data and /cache fixed it for them
[10:10] <ogra_> yeah
[10:10] <LT_Newb> and most likely using another version won't work at all?
[10:11] <popey> My point being we have no plans to port it.
[10:11] <ogra_> that will go into the installer script
[10:11] <LT_Newb> ok. now that's information.
[10:11] <LT_Newb> ty.
[10:11] <popey> hence.. when "someone {else}" ports it
[10:11] <LT_Newb> that is no additional information as this is the case for any open source software.
[10:11] <mainerror> Regarding this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1131494
[10:11] <ProGEEK> PhantomGamers got it running on one varient of the S3
[10:12] <LT_Newb> anyways, thx.
[10:12] <ogra_> LT_Newb, the system on the lowest level of ubuntu touch is android, for someone from XDA developers that shuld be an afternoon task
[10:12] <LT_Newb> and even if it was a month-task, the s3 rules, not the nexus.
[10:12] <mainerror> I'm wondering what the planned behavior was. I mean should that button be a slash or a comma, visually.
[10:12] <ProGEEK> i believe there is also a semi-working Kindle fire port
[10:13] <vikewoods> hello everyone , has anyone tried to install ubuntu os on galaxy s 2 ?
[10:13] <AlanBell> ProGEEK: got links for those?
[10:13] <ogra_> LT_Newb, the prob with S3 is that its not coming with an open bootloader
[10:13] <ProGEEK> PhantomGamers has the S3 Port, Hashcode has the Kindle fire.
[10:14] <LT_Newb> didn't mark shuttleworth say it's gonna be compatible with any android-compatible phone? if so, why doesn't it _just_ work on any droid phone which supports new droid versions?
[10:14] <ProGEEK> like, literally got running an hour ago
[10:14] <AlanBell> oh right, thanks ProGEEK
[10:14] <LT_Newb> where does the incompatibility stem from?
[10:14] <ogra_> LT_Newb, HW differences
[10:14] <ProGEEK> cause all phones arn;t the same LT_Newb, they all use different hardware, different drivers
[10:14] <ProGEEK> it needs to be built for that device
[10:14] <LT_Newb> ogra: ty. but doesn't the install routine of ubuntu replace the bootloader in any case, even on a nexus?
[10:15] <ali1234> no
[10:15] <ali1234> no no no
[10:15] <popey> no?
[10:15] <ali1234> NOEEE
[10:15] <mainerror> :D
[10:15] <LT_Newb> but the hardware has android as common ground - i'd think that since it both is droid 4.x compatible it should also be ubuntu compatible?
[10:15] <ProGEEK> i believe the Nexus devices are source devices (What everything is based off), and are most unlocked and open
[10:15] <ProGEEK> LT_Newb, yes, but until someone ports it to that device, it wont work
[10:15] <mainerror> LT_Newb: That's not how it works. It is the other way around even for Android.
[10:16] <kia> how i install app in ubuntu phone
[10:16] <AlanBell> !ports
[10:16] <mainerror> Android has been adjusted to work on all the different hardware versions.
[10:16] <ProGEEK> kia, you dont
[10:16] <ali1234> LT_Newb: android 4.x isn't enough. you have arm cpu requirements to
[10:16] <mainerror> Well, not Android itself but they underlaying system Dalvik is running on.
[10:17] <ProGEEK> does Ubuntu Phone even use Dalvik ?
[10:17] <ali1234> mainerror: that *is* android
[10:17] <popey> ProGEEK: no
[10:17] <ali1234> mainerror: specifically bionic plus proprietary hardware drivers
[10:17] <ProGEEK> didnt think so
[10:17] <mainerror> ali1234: Android the framework, yea. :)
[10:18] <kia> can apt-get install other ubuntu app ?
[10:18] <ali1234> mainerror: the whole reason why this ubuntu stuff can run on "any android phone" is because it uses those android proprietary drivers
[10:18] <mainerror> I'm aware.
[10:18] <AlanBell> ubot5: !ports-#ubuntu-phone is <reply>There has been some success with the d2vzw verizon variant of the Galaxy S3. There has been some progress on the Kindle Fire too. Other devices may be ported to, Canonical is not working on them and there is no roadmap or timescale.
[10:18] <AlanBell> !ports
[10:18] <AlanBell> yay, got it right ;)
[10:19] <ProGEEK> good man AlanBell :)
[10:19] <vibhav> ali1234: proprietary drivers?
[10:19] <ali1234> vibhav: yes, proprietary drivers. you don't think this runs entirely open source code do you?
[10:20] <ProGEEK> Is it bad that im happy when certain types of people either ping out or leave ?
[10:20] <vibhav> ali1234: Nope, the Ubuntu Phone is based on cynanogenmod 10
[10:20] <vibhav> Entirely
[10:20] <ProGEEK> correct
[10:20] <ali1234> vibhav: so?
[10:20] <ProGEEK> and i think thats awesome
[10:20] <Vilsafur> does anyone know when ubuntu will be available for Nexus S?
[10:20] <vibhav> Where do proprietary drivers come
[10:20] <vibhav> Vi
[10:21] <ProGEEK> either reverse engineering or from the manufacturers of the phone
[10:21] <ali1234> you think cynaogenmod does not contain proprietary drivers?
[10:21] <vibhav> ali1234: The code is entirely open
[10:21] <mainerror> Vilsafur: Once someone ported it. :)
[10:21] <ali1234> lol
[10:21] <vibhav> For the n4, AFAIK
[10:21] <ali1234> that's pretty funny
[10:22] <Walther> vibhav: are you sure that is factual information and not a troll / false information?
[10:22] <Vilsafur> ok thanks
[10:22] <Walther> at least I haven't seen *any* official mentions of Cyanogenmod, anywhere in the docs
[10:22] <vibhav> Wal
[10:22] <vibhav> Walther: no, it is cynanogenmod
[10:22] <ali1234> Walther: it's cyanogenmod, see phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb
[10:22] <vibhav> Walther: http://phablet.ubuntu.com/
[10:22] <ProGEEK> Walther, yes its Cyanogenmod, after its booted, do a logcat :)
[10:23] <mainerror> Walther: Look closely then because it is in the release notes.
[10:23] <ProGEEK> makes sense tho
[10:23] <ProGEEK> take a free open source project, fork and build on it
[10:23] <ali1234> and the reason for using cyanogenmod instead of AOSP?
[10:24] <yutalar9> no plans for an atrix2 release?  I remember seeing that device in official Canonical videos
[10:24] <ProGEEK> i think cause Cyanogenmod already has such a vast device-support base
[10:24] <mainerror> Yea.
[10:24] <ali1234> yes. because it has all the proprietary drivers that aren't in AOSP
[10:24] <ProGEEK> that porting and running on new devices should be easier
[10:24] <Walther> Hmm, nice
[10:24] <ProGEEK> that, or free open source equivilents
[10:25] <Walther> this is actually a smart move
[10:25] <Guest19219> Hello, is it possible to receive/send call/sms on the galaxy nexus ?
[10:25] <ProGEEK> and no doubt Ubuntu will contribute back to Cyanogenmod too
[10:25] <yutalar9> yes you can call/text on the galaxy nexus
[10:25] <rymate1234> ...ha
[10:25] <yutalar9> GSM only
[10:26] <ali1234> ProGEEK: you should be more interested in them contributing back to libhybris, which is a much more important part of the work, and nothing at all to do with cyanogenmod
[10:26] <ProGEEK> not really
[10:26] <Guest19219> Huumm, weird, it's not working at all on mine
[10:27] <ProGEEK> if my friends boss gave him something, then he gave it to me, i'd thank my friend, not his boss
[10:27] <ali1234> ProGEEK: non sequitor
[10:27] <ProGEEK> same concept, i'd contribute back to the parent project
[10:27] <ali1234> ProGEEK: libhybris has literally nothing to do with cyanogenmod, it isn't made by cyanogen, it isn't developed on by cyanogen
[10:28] <ali1234> cyanogen would not be interested in the changes that canonical have made to libhybris because they don't even use it
[10:28] <ProGEEK> i'm failing to see your point ? If ubuntu ports the cyanogenmod base to more devices, wouldnt it only be fair that those be contributed back to the cyanogenmod project that ubuntu touch is based on ?
[10:28] <starks> hey guys: http://i.imgur.com/X52Sj32.jpg
[10:29] <ali1234> ProGEEK: the port is ubuntu touch doesn't need cyanogen at all, but cannot be done at all without libhybris
[10:29] <starks> ubuntu touch on the galaxy s3
[10:29] <rymate1234> starks, damn you and your armv7 device
[10:29] <ProGEEK> im not talking about libhybris, where are you getting this from, read what i am saying
[10:29] <ali1234> ProGEEK: ubuntu has not ported cyanogen to any new devices
[10:29]  * rymate1234 is stuck on armv6
[10:29] <ali1234> ProGEEK: they used cyanogen because it already runs on these devices
[10:29] <ogra_> starks, you got a message there
[10:30] <rymate1234> ali1234, Ubuntu doesn't NEED cyanogenmod, but they're using it as a base so potentially android devices can run ubuntu easily without having to redo a lot of code
[10:31] <AlanBell> starks: which precise variant is that?
[10:31] <starks> AlanBell, d2vzw
[10:32] <AlanBell> ok, that is already in the !ports factoid starks :)
[10:32] <rymate1234> !ports
[10:33] <ProGEEK> ogra_, how did things go regarding the accidental leak ?
[10:33]  * rymate1234 goes
[10:33] <ogra_> ProGEEK, a;; fine :) thanks for asking
[10:33] <ogra_> *all
[10:33] <ProGEEK> glad to hear it, still employed then :p
[10:34] <ogra_> ProGEEK, we actually talked to the formu guys to keep the thread a little quiet until release
[10:34] <ogra_> *forum
[10:34] <ProGEEK> nice move
[10:34] <ogra_> yeah, dholbach rocks :)
[10:34] <fackityfack> WOOOOOOOOOOO UBUNTU
[10:35] <starks> AlanBell, "ported too"
[10:35] <ogra_> ++
[10:35] <ProGEEK> starks, how did your port go ?
[10:35] <AlanBell> starks: well I meant the other type of to as in "porting it to a rasberry pi" (or whatever)
[10:36] <ogra_> i assume once the ubuntuonair thing is done today we should start a Ports wikipage that links to the different ports
[10:36] <starks> oh
[10:36] <starks> ProGEEK, phantom did a good job
[10:36] <starks> i egged him into a 30 gig sync
[10:36] <starks> or something
[10:36] <ogra_> AlanBell, "Other devices may be ported to too" (hehe)
[10:36] <ProGEEK> lol
[10:36] <starks> PhantomGamers and hashcode are rockstars
[10:36] <ProGEEK> right, taking a backup of my configured customized ubuntu
[10:37] <ali1234> ogra_: how is root filesystem built? do i just need correct repo and debootstrap?
[10:37] <AlanBell> ubot5: !no ports-#ubuntu-phone is <reply>There has been some success with the d2vzw verizon variant of the Galaxy S3. There has been some progress on the Kindle Fire too. Other devices may be ported to too, Canonical is not working on them and there is no roadmap or timescale.
[10:37] <ProGEEK> im using phablet-dev-bootstrap, i hope thats the right script ogra_ ?
[10:37] <ogra_> ali1234, the android part is using the linaro tools to build it, the ubuntu side on top shoould be just debootstrappable
[10:37] <ogra_> ProGEEK, i guess so
[10:38] <ali1234> yes, i mean ubuntu part
[10:38] <ProGEEK> lol ill let the download complete then
[10:38] <ogra_> rsalveti will be able to answer that in detail
[10:38] <ali1234> are any packages currently built for x86?
[10:38] <ogra_> i dont think so but check https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-touch-preview
[10:39] <starks> how do i ssh into the phone?
[10:39] <shaneo1> hi guys I have installed the ubuntu preview on my galaxy nexus, it all seems to be working ok, i can make calls and recieve them but there is no sound
[10:39] <ogra_> see the release notes
[10:40] <ogra_> they describe ssh'ing
[10:40] <shaneo1> cant hear anyone
[10:40] <popey> starks: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes#Accessing_the_device_over_SSH
[10:42] <ProGEEK> whoops, dont uninstall the qml-phone-shell package
[10:42] <ProGEEK> you cant re-install it lol
[10:42] <ali1234> yeah, it does not have the right repo urls
[10:42] <grizmawe> starks, to ssh onto the phone you just ssh phablet@<ip of phone> - to find the IP "adb root; adb shell; ubuntu_chroot shell; ip addr show
[10:43] <ProGEEK> right, experiment time, what happens if i dist-upgrade to raring
[10:43] <ogra_> haha
[10:43] <ogra_> thats brave
[10:43] <kaleo> ProGEEK: that's going to hurt
[10:43] <kaleo> :)
[10:43] <grizmawe> starks, the wiki instructions say to use ifconfig to find IP but on mine ifconfig does not work as /proc/net/dev does not exist
[10:43] <ProGEEK> i took a nandroid backup
[10:44] <ProGEEK> im just curious :p
[10:44] <ogra_> you will need it
[10:44] <shaneo1> is anyone able to make calls on their phones?
[10:44] <ProGEEK> whats the point of having it if you dont haxx it :p
[10:44] <ogra_> shaneo1, everyone with a SIM without PIN
[10:44] <mutantkeyboard> yes
[10:44] <shaneo1> i can make calls but cant hear anyone
[10:44] <grizmawe> shaneo1, yep calls are fine, incoming and outgoing as well as sms
[10:44] <_max_> Hi there, maybe its a little bit strange to ask this here, but I'd like to install only a primitive ubuntu-server (without GUI, touch-support, etc.) on my nexus7. Is there anywhere an image or a "how-to"
[10:44] <mutantkeyboard> shaneo1 works fine for me
[10:44] <ProGEEK> and it begins
[10:45] <ProGEEK> at this point, it works fine for me
[10:45] <ProGEEK> in.... 20 minutes, it may not
[10:45] <ProGEEK> :D
[10:45] <shaneo1> oh ok, i did check that the sound was not muted :-0
[10:46] <ProGEEK> i take it that auto brightness doesnt work
[10:46] <shaneo1> what phone did you flash it to mutantkeyboard
[10:46] <shaneo1> Gnex or nex4
[10:47] <ProGEEK> I have byobu on my Ubuntu Phone :p
[10:47] <ogra_> cool
[10:47] <baaba> trying to build a c++ app on the phone fails on missing qmake (after installing all build-essential + dpkg stuff)
[10:48] <baaba> but the only qmake in the arm repositories appears to be for qt4
[10:48] <ogra_> do you have the phablet PPA enabled ?
[10:48] <ogra_> (see topic, it is in the release notes)
[10:48] <baaba> oh do i have to add it on the phone as well?
[10:49] <baaba> ok i'll check that out, thanks
[10:49] <mutantkeyboard> ok I have trouble publishing an app on the phone
[10:49] <bits> what about b2g??
[10:49] <mutantkeyboard> shaneo1: gnex
[10:49] <kenz> hi
[10:49] <Guest19219> huumm, is there a way to remove the PIN from ubuntu mobile ?
[10:49] <shaneo1> ok thanks. Maybe I had a silent caller this morning then lol
[10:50] <kenz> when is the ubuntu for mobiles gonna be released
[10:50] <mutantkeyboard> I try to push an app via QT creator but it doesn't work nor it's shown on the device
[10:50] <kenz> mm
[10:50] <ProGEEK> did you go through the setup ?
[10:50] <AlanBell> kenz: the concept demo was released yesterday, check the topic
[10:51] <kenz> bt for nexus right
[10:51] <AlanBell> Guest19219: nope, put the sim in another phone to do that
[10:51] <mutantkeyboard> ProGEEK: what setup? Devices? Yes I did. Everything is set up. SSH
[10:51] <grizmawe> mutantkeyboard, if you go to the devices section and press "detect devices" does the form apear? if not then connect via usb - worked for me
[10:51] <kenz> i ownsony 4.0.4 android mob
[10:51] <AlanBell> !ports | kenz
[10:51] <ProGEEK> so does ctrl+ F10 give you a terminal logged into the phone ?
[10:51] <Guest19219> ok, thanks !
[10:51] <ogra_> kenz, then you will have to wait until someone from the community ports it
[10:52] <kenz> am ready to prot yaar
[10:52] <kenz> sry port
[10:52] <mutantkeyboard> yes it says phablet@localhost
[10:52] <shrewm> hello there, I have a galaxy nexus, installed ubuntu like it is explained on the website and everything was okay. on the terminal I can see "Once completed the device should reboot into Ubuntu" and my phone rebooted but now I just have a black screen and can not go on.
[10:52] <ogra_> there is an ubuntuonair session today about porting to other devices
[10:52] <ali1234> ogra_: what's the real ARM cpu requirement on the root filesystem stuff? i heard it won't run on cortex a8?
[10:52] <shrewm> I wiated for almost 10 minutes now but nothing happens. did somebody notice that too?
[10:53] <kenz> Hey Alan,ubot5 and ogra_   where to start from...it was easy for me to port Samsung bada 2.0 for WAVE S8500 alone..
[10:53] <ogra_> shrewm, that happens if your /sdcard folder was full before flashing ... clean it and start over
[10:53] <ProGEEK> odd, so what does ctrl+F12 do ?
[10:53] <ogra_> kenz, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
[10:54] <AlanBell> ubot5: !no ports-#ubuntu-phone is <reply>There has been some success with the d2vzw verizon variant of the Galaxy S3. There has been some progress on the Kindle Fire too. Other devices may be ported to too, Canonical is not working on them and there is no roadmap or timescale. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
[10:54] <ogra_> ali1234, well, cortex-a8 is usually single core, it will likely run but be slow as molasses
[10:54] <mutantkeyboard> sorry, found an error. Process crashed, it's app behaviour
[10:54] <shrewm> ogra_ thanks but I have the 8GB model and I had like ~1 GB used?
[10:54] <mutantkeyboard> not the bug with connection
[10:54] <mutantkeyboard> xD
[10:54] <ProGEEK> oh so issue with your app ?
[10:54] <mutantkeyboard> yep
[10:54] <ProGEEK> heh
[10:55] <mutantkeyboard> I didn't see the issues bar before asking a question ;
[10:55] <mutantkeyboard> ;)
[10:55] <ProGEEK> :)
[10:55] <ali1234> ogra_: so it could run on, say, n900 then, with appropriate kernel?
[10:55] <ali1234> and probably rebuilt qt5
[10:55] <mutantkeyboard> but it's problem with XmlListModel it shows it as an error(M300) unknown component .
[10:55] <ogra_> ali1234, well, depends how you define "run" ... i guess it would boot to a screen after a while but then be really really slow
[10:56] <ProGEEK> Oh Fab, phablet@dominator:~#
[10:56] <ProGEEK> changing the hostname doesnt murder it :D
[10:56] <ogra_> ali1234, the n900 only has 512M, thats pretty tight
[10:56] <ali1234> ogra_: why does it need to much ram? ;P
[10:57] <ogra_> because its not yet optimized
[10:57] <ali1234> all it's doing is showing a bunch of qml
[10:57] <ProGEEK> distupgrading, phone isnt borked yet...
[10:57] <ogra_> nice !
[10:57] <shaneo1> restat it lol
[10:57] <shaneo1> restart*
[10:58] <ProGEEK> but if i restart it, it wont work lol
[10:58] <ProGEEK> :p
[10:58] <shaneo1> ;-)
[10:58] <ogra_> who restarts phones anyway
[10:58] <ProGEEK> exacery
[10:58] <ProGEEK> wait, temp sensor works ?
[10:58] <mutantkeyboard> ProGEEK - vi /etc/hostname works on phone?
[10:58] <shaneo1> i had to with android many times
[10:58] <ProGEEK> and running hostname
[10:58] <ProGEEK> i havent rebooted to see if it retains the hostname
[10:59] <mutantkeyboard> indeed
[10:59] <ogra_> if you edited the file it should
[10:59] <mutantkeyboard> at least I managed to remove dummy stuff hahahhaha..... Lola Chang
[10:59] <ogra_> you dont like her ?
[10:59] <ProGEEK> yes the temp sensor does work, mine said 49C, not its 48C :D
[10:59] <ProGEEK> i might
[10:59] <ProGEEK> if i knew who she was lol
[10:59] <mutantkeyboard> lol
[10:59] <ogra_> hehe
[10:59] <ogra_> give her a call :)
[11:00] <mutantkeyboard> my wife would kill me ... she is freaking out already complaining that I've been playing with my phone too much ;)
[11:00] <ProGEEK> haha
[11:01] <shaneo1> haha... my other half says I should marry mine
[11:01] <grizmawe> if you do ifconfig from adb shell to find IP does it work for you?
[11:01] <ProGEEK> isnt it pretty http://imgur.com/2Z2L4rv
[11:01] <mutantkeyboard> nope
[11:01] <ProGEEK> terminal window / byobu didnt update with hostname change
[11:01] <grizmawe> I had to use ip addr show instead - think wiki needs updating
[11:01] <mutantkeyboard> ip addr doesn't work for me
[11:02] <grizmawe> "ip addr show" works fine
[11:02] <kumikumi_> there's currently no terminal app for ubuntu mobile, am I correct?
[11:02] <grizmawe> just waiting for you to build ;P
[11:03] <ogra_> kumikumi_, well, there is ssh
[11:03] <baaba> ogra_: hmm, still no qt5-qmake
[11:03] <ogra_> nothing that runs on the UI yet though
[11:03] <baaba> the only qmake is in qt4-qmake
[11:03] <ProGEEK> the Ubuntu phone has a ipv6-in-ipv4 tunnel adapter ?
[11:03] <kumikumi_> alright
[11:03] <ProGEEK> random
[11:04] <baaba> am i supposed to use that for building on the phone?
[11:04] <baaba> by "on" i mean literally on the phone
[11:04] <baaba> as in the entire toolchain itself runs on the phone
[11:04] <rymate1234> ProGEEK: if not,  apt get one!
[11:04] <ProGEEK> no, im saying it does!
[11:04] <ProGEEK> lol
[11:04] <ProGEEK> sit0      Link encap:IPv6-in-IPv4
[11:04] <baaba> which i surmise is the only way to build native code right now in the absence of a cross-compiling toolchain
[11:05] <ogra_> ?
[11:05] <ogra_> the SDK does cross compilation by default
[11:05] <NameX> is it possible to install ubuntu phone with CWM ?
[11:05] <ProGEEK> wait wait wait, my phone is connected via my ipv6 router, AWESOME
[11:05] <baaba> are you sure? when i choose build & install c++ project on ubuntu device, it does everything on the phone
[11:05] <ProGEEK> NameX, yes, but its slow, and manual
[11:06] <ProGEEK> (The install process, not the installed image)
[11:06] <NameX> So i should use ubuntu recovery ?
[11:06] <ProGEEK> ubuntu recovery is cwm
[11:06] <ProGEEK> just modified slightly isnt it ?
[11:06] <NameX> so whats the difference ?
[11:06] <rymate1234> Yes
[11:06] <NameX> ho ok
[11:06] <ProGEEK> autodeploy is new yes ?
[11:06] <rymate1234> It's Cwm with an Ubuntu background
[11:07] <NameX> so i have to flash recovery
[11:07] <NameX> then install zip file ?
[11:07] <ProGEEK> really ? mine still has the CWM background lol
[11:07] <ProGEEK> no
[11:07] <mutantkeyboard> I have CWM
[11:07] <NameX> default cwm ?
[11:07] <ogra_> baaba, there should be some info in the appdev guidelines
[11:07] <ProGEEK> you have to fastboot flash boot, recover and system, then boot to recovery and flash phablet zip
[11:07] <ProGEEK> then wipe data and cache, then reboot
[11:07] <baaba> ok, i'll check those out
[11:08] <ProGEEK> use the installer, it'll give you less headaches
[11:08] <ogra_> (i just heard that some of the devs use it the same way)
[11:08] <ogra_> so it must be possible :)
[11:08] <mutantkeyboard> ProGEEK: how on earth did you change that name of the localhost ... I tried editing hosts file, but it didn't work as I expected... it multiplied itself million times
[11:08] <ProGEEK> whats that ogra_  ?
[11:08] <ali1234> i can't even run qt creato any more since i installed ubuntu-sdk
[11:08] <ProGEEK> i dont use vi
[11:08] <ogra_> ProGEEK, buiolding your apps natively
[11:08] <ProGEEK> ah
[11:08] <ali1234> well, i can run it, but i can't use it because it says "plugin errors" and has no toolchains available
[11:09] <ali1234> so it's now a bloated text editor
[11:09] <NameX> ProGEEK fastboot flash command for boot then recover then system ?
[11:09] <ProGEEK> ali1234, you are missing a library
[11:09] <ali1234> probably
[11:09] <mutantkeyboard> ali1234: sudo apt-get install libbotan-1.10-0
[11:09] <NameX> then fastboot boot command for recovery ?
[11:09] <mutantkeyboard> that was my problem
[11:09] <ProGEEK> the one it says is missing, its in the apt repos
[11:09] <ProGEEK> yeah that one
[11:09] <ali1234> trying...
[11:09] <starks> i'm really confused at what kind of apps i can run... qt, web, and armhf/armel repos are equal citizens?
[11:10] <ProGEEK> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[11:10] <ProGEEK> here goes, do i dare reboot ?
[11:10] <ali1234> yep, works now
[11:10] <grizmawe> ali1234, libbotan-1.10-0 is missing from the deps. just install it and then restart qtcreator
[11:10] <ProGEEK> rebooting....
[11:11] <mutantkeyboard> starks: you can choose whatever technology you want. It works the very same way as on ubuntu dekstop
[11:11] <ProGEEK> heh broken :D
[11:11] <NameX> i dont understand why use boot and system thing ... never saw that on install helper ...
[11:11] <grizmawe> ProGEEK, as long as there is no smoke you are ok :D
[11:11] <ProGEEK> no smoke, black screen
[11:11] <ali1234> "no valid kits found"
[11:12] <ali1234> even desktop qt not available
[11:12] <ogra_> starks, armel isnt supported in ubuntu
[11:12] <ogra_> only armhf
[11:12] <mutantkeyboard> NameX: you usually don't see it because in android it's packed in .zip file.
[11:12] <bjaanes> Im missing some project templates (notably Qt Quick UI) in qtcreator.
[11:12] <ProGEEK> Hung: Calling UBUNTU init...
[11:12] <starks> mutantkeyboard, does x get installed if it's needed <__<
[11:13] <mutantkeyboard> hmmm ... didn't see it yet... let me see
[11:13] <ProGEEK> ali1234, remove ~/.config/QtConfig* or whatevery the file and folder is called, then try starting it again
[11:13] <baaba> ogra_: is there supposed to be a cross-compiling kit for qt creator somewhere?
[11:13] <NameX> mutantkeyboard: so for installing ubuntu i HAVE TO do boot, recover system
[11:13] <ogra_> baaba, it should be in the SDK
[11:13] <ProGEEK> err
[11:13] <NameX> ?
[11:13] <ProGEEK> ~/.QtProject*
[11:13] <Streamstormer> linux&66/ubu
[11:14] <ali1234> ProGEEK: no such file
[11:14] <ProGEEK> its a folder
[11:14] <Streamstormer> ups fc
[11:14] <mutantkeyboard> you have to fatsboot system.img recovery.img and boot.img yes
[11:14] <ali1234> ProGEEK: it's in .config
[11:14] <baaba> hmm ok
[11:15] <ProGEEK> oh yes, my bad
[11:15] <baaba> i'll dig around then
[11:15] <mutantkeyboard> and then fastboot -w phablet.zip or whatever it's called
[11:15] <shaneo1> anyone know the phablet password
[11:15] <ali1234> and it made no difference
[11:15] <bjaanes> Im missing some project templates (notably Qt Quick UI) in qtcreator.  Anyone got any idea how to fix this?
[11:15] <mutantkeyboard> shaneo1 : phablet
[11:15] <shaneo1> hehe that was easy :-)
[11:15] <shaneo1> thx
[11:15] <mutantkeyboard> np
[11:15] <ali1234> necessitas came back tho
[11:16] <NameX> ok so on MAC command is ./fastboot flash bootXXX.img etc ?
[11:16] <mutantkeyboard> yep
[11:16] <mutantkeyboard> I am on mac
[11:16] <ProGEEK> ok time to recovery
[11:16] <NameX> ok fine doing it
[11:16] <mutantkeyboard> yep, I tried to install xorg ... crashes the phone
[11:16] <vikewoods> why fastboot devices didn't show my device ? (
[11:17] <mutantkeyboard> adb devices
[11:17] <shaneo1> did you remember sudo
[11:17] <vikewoods> yep
[11:17] <ProGEEK> ok so dist-upgrade doesnt work
[11:17] <NameX> it says : nknown partition 'quantal-preinstalled-system-armel+mako.img'
[11:17] <ProGEEK> lol
[11:17] <ProGEEK> flashboot flash boot quantal-preinstalled-system-armel+mako.img
[11:17] <shaneo1> oh dear, never mine
[11:18] <Gr0tB4gz> anyone installed it on Galaxy s3??
[11:18] <mutantkeyboard> image isn't ready yet
[11:18] <AlanBell> !ports | Gr0tB4gz
[11:18] <ProGEEK> "to too:"
[11:18] <ProGEEK> -:
[11:18] <ProGEEK> :p
[11:18] <Gr0tB4gz> AlanBell: thanks bro
[11:18] <ogra_> hehe
[11:19] <NameX> sending 'boot' (115776 KB)... OKAY writing 'boot'... FAILED (remote: size too large)
[11:19] <NameX> what that mean ?
[11:19] <AlanBell> I was wondering if I could add a "two" in as well somehow
[11:19] <ogra_> HAHA
[11:19] <NameX> that i dont have enough space ?
[11:19] <ProGEEK> you are flashing the wrong file
[11:19] <mutantkeyboard> indeed
[11:19] <ogra_> NameX, might be that your /sdcard folder was full in android before you started
[11:19] <ogra_> try to clean it
[11:19] <ProGEEK> flashboot flash boot quantal-preinstalled-boot-armel+mako.img
[11:20] <ogra_> oh
[11:20] <ogra_> yeah, wrong file would also be an issue :P
[11:20] <ProGEEK> he tried to flash the system image to the boot part :p
[11:20] <jonpa> any hope that ubuntu would be available for devices with less than 512mb of ram?
[11:20] <NameX> lol
[11:20] <ogra_> jonpa, unlikely
[11:20] <NameX> i followed what u said :D [12:17] <ProGEEK> flashboot flash boot quantal-preinstalled-system-armel+mako.img
[11:21] <ProGEEK> i copied and asted what you put previously correcting your syntax
[11:21] <ogra_> s/flashboot/fastboot/
[11:21] <ProGEEK> i wasnt checking you had the right image
[11:21] <NameX> so flash boot boot.img
[11:21] <NameX> then flash system.img
[11:21] <NameX> then flash recover.img ?
[11:21] <ProGEEK> syntax is, fastboot flash PARTITION IMAGE
[11:21] <ProGEEK> so
[11:22] <ProGEEK> fastboot flash boot bootimg.img
[11:22] <ProGEEK> fastboot flash recovery recoveryimg.img
[11:22] <ProGEEK> fastboot flash system systemimg.img
[11:22] <ProGEEK> *checks
[11:22] <NameX> HAAA
[11:22] <NameX> lol
[11:22] <ProGEEK> yup, didnt F that one up
[11:22] <NameX> ok try it
[11:22] <digitalfiz> anyone running ubuntu    on the nexus 10 in here?
[11:23] <vikewoods> why fastboot cant see my device ? =((
[11:23] <ProGEEK> no <512MB ram ogra_ ?
[11:23] <ogra_> ProGEEK, i doubt it
[11:23] <mutantkeyboard> vikewoods: did you enable USB debugging?
[11:23] <ProGEEK> but but but....  i want Ubuntu Touch on my toaster :(
[11:23] <mutantkeyboard> hahahahahaha
[11:23] <ogra_> that will be enough to run the system, but not a single app
[11:23] <ogra_> (512M that is)
[11:23] <ProGEEK> so.. no Toast.qml ? :(
[11:23] <vikewoods> mutantkeyboard Yes (
[11:24] <ogra_> below i woudl doubt the system even works usable
[11:24] <ProGEEK> how about BurntToast.qml ?
[11:24] <NameX> ok it worked
[11:24] <mutantkeyboard> what version of android do you have?
[11:24] <NameX> so know what i have to do ?
[11:24] <ProGEEK> reboot into recovery, wipe data and cache
[11:24] <mainerror> Oh no! So no Nexus S support then.
[11:25] <NameX> wipe data/factory partition ? and wipe cache partition ?
[11:25] <ProGEEK> yes
[11:25] <ProGEEK> wait, what is your device ?
[11:25] <vikewoods> 4.1.2
[11:25] <ProGEEK> ah mako, nevermind.
[11:25] <ProGEEK> after you have wiped
[11:25] <ProGEEK> without rebooting
[11:26] <NameX> i m ready
[11:26] <vikewoods> gt-i9100
[11:26] <ProGEEK> adb push quantal-preinstalled-armel+mako.zip /sdcard/0/
[11:26] <mutantkeyboard> there is no image for gt-i9100
[11:26] <mutantkeyboard> as far as i know
[11:26] <NameX> ive already put it on
[11:26] <NameX> both zip file
[11:26] <ProGEEK> then adb push quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip /sdcard/0/
[11:27] <mutantkeyboard> i screwed up the phone
[11:27] <ogra_> vikewoods, you will have to wait until someone ported it to gt-i9100
[11:27] <ProGEEK> ok install both zips then
[11:27] <NameX> which one first ?
[11:27] <ProGEEK> i dont think the order matters
[11:27] <NameX> ok
[11:27] <ProGEEK> i did mako first, then phablet
[11:28] <ProGEEK> but if it doesnt work, reboot into recovery, wipe cache and data again, then flash in the opposite order lol
[11:28] <NameX> lol
[11:28] <mutantkeyboard> recovery doesnt work
[11:28] <NameX> i did other first
[11:28] <NameX> lol
[11:28] <mutantkeyboard> anymore
[11:28] <mainerror> ogra_: Seriously mate, I a lot of respect for you. Sitting in here all day and answering the same question again and again and again ... :)
[11:28] <mutantkeyboard> it shows like isntalling image, but it has gone out of bounds
[11:28] <NameX> we ll see if it changes somethings ;)
[11:28] <ProGEEK> did you kill your recovery mutantkeyboard ?
[11:28] <mutantkeyboard> indeed
[11:28] <mainerror> s/I a/I have a/
[11:28] <vikewoods> ok, but why fastboot didn't detect device ((
[11:28] <ogra_> mainerror, 8 years of training :)
[11:28] <ProGEEK> after you have applied those zips NameX reboot
[11:28] <NameX> ok i ll
[11:28] <mutantkeyboard> Device detected as /sbin/sh: getprop: not found
[11:28] <mutantkeyboard> Unsupported device, autodetect fails device
[11:29] <NameX> and after that its good ?
[11:29] <ProGEEK> mutantkeyboard, yeah cant run the script from recovery or fastboot
[11:29] <ProGEEK> should be NameX
[11:29] <mainerror> ogra_: Been a tech supporter? :)
[11:29] <NameX> ok ty guy i ll tell you if it works for me ;)
[11:29] <mutantkeyboard> adb recognizes device in recovery, but phablet-flash doesn't work
[11:29] <ogra_> mainerror, ubuntu developer :)
[11:29] <mainerror> Oh, right. :)
[11:29] <ProGEEK> mutantkeyboard, try reflashing the zips
[11:30] <ogra_> but yeah, i have been tech supporter in another life before
[11:30] <ProGEEK> ogra_, and lack of a shotgun
[11:30] <ogra_> yeah, not that easy in germany :)
[11:30] <mutantkeyboard> zips? but I used only phablet-flash 0b
[11:30] <mutantkeyboard> -b
[11:30] <mainerror> Oh you're a neighbor then.
[11:30] <ProGEEK> mutantkeyboard, in your downloads folder on your pc, you will have a phablet-flash dir
[11:30] <mutantkeyboard> oh yes, found them in DL's
[11:30] <mutantkeyboard> yes
[11:31] <ogra_> mainerror, Kassel
[11:31] <ProGEEK> push them to your device using adb (scroll up, you will see what i said earlier)
[11:31] <mainerror> ogra_: Austria, Graz
[11:31] <Vilsafur> mainerror  : did you try on a Nexus S ?
[11:31] <ProGEEK> then you can reflash them in recovery
[11:31] <ProGEEK> How you getting on NameX ?
[11:31] <ogra_> ah, yeah "neighbor" :)
[11:32] <mainerror> Vilsafur: Nope, but given that 512 MB RAM is an absolute minimum to run only the system I'd say it is quite a no go.
[11:32] <NameX> yes
[11:32] <mutantkeyboard> wait, but I have to put the device in bootloader for flashing recovery first?
[11:32] <NameX> restarting
[11:32] <ProGEEK> cant you get into recovery at all ?
[11:32] <NameX> it worked ty !!
[11:32] <defcon8808> i have Motorola XOOM tablet. i modified ro.build.product="wingray" to "manta" in build.prop. then i execute "phablet-flash" command. What are you think about?
[11:32] <mutantkeyboard> no, i can get to bootloader
[11:32] <ProGEEK> np NameX
[11:33] <Vilsafur> mainerror : ok
[11:33] <ProGEEK> ok follow my instructions I gave NameX
[11:33] <mutantkeyboard> recovery shows like restoring image, and then it goes off the bounds
[11:33] <mutantkeyboard> and it's stuck there
[11:33] <mutantkeyboard> i tried to do a phablet-flash again
[11:33] <mutantkeyboard> but it didn't work
[11:33] <mainerror> Watching the mailing list is quite funny. Like one of the latest emails.
[11:33] <ProGEEK> read my last
[11:33] <mutantkeyboard> I hope I didn't kill devices
[11:33] <ProGEEK> reflash all 3 images using fastboot
[11:34] <ProGEEK> then try recovery
[11:34] <mutantkeyboard> ok, I'll give it a try
[11:34] <ProGEEK> if you can get to recovery, then push the zips, wipe data and cache, apply the zips then reboot
[11:34] <ProGEEK> ogra_, you handle any docs ?
[11:35] <ogra_> ProGEEK, docs ?
[11:35] <ProGEEK> yes, any of the installer docs on the wiki
[11:35] <Vilsafur> mainerror : where are you see " 512 MB RAM is an absolute minimum to run only the system" ?
[11:35] <ogra_> its a wiki, everyone can handle them :)
[11:35] <ProGEEK> might be an idea to copy and paste my instructions for a backup "Manual", "Broken" method
[11:35] <ogra_> and no, thats more dholbach's area
[11:36] <ProGEEK> heh
[11:36] <ProGEEK> right well i'll brb, i need cancer
[11:36] <mutantkeyboard> ProGEEK: I did fastboot all 3 files, what to do with zip? I have 2 do i adb push on device?
[11:36] <ogra_> ProGEEK, good idea !
[11:36] <ProGEEK> yeah push then to the device
[11:36] <mutantkeyboard> both?
[11:36]  * ogra_ rolls one
[11:36] <ProGEEK> adb push quantal-preinstalled-armel+mako.zip /sdcard/0/
[11:37] <Renpt0> Hey everyone
[11:37] <ProGEEK> yup
[11:37] <ProGEEK> also, wipe data, and wipe cache
[11:37] <mutantkeyboard> ok let's see
[11:37] <ProGEEK> to be safe
[11:37] <Renpt0> I want to ask you, is the ubuntu on the iphone worth it?
[11:37] <ProGEEK> i'll brb in 5
[11:37] <Renpt0> To remove the ios?
[11:37] <ProGEEK> pm me if you get stuck
[11:37] <mutantkeyboard> yes
[11:37] <mainerror> Vilsafur: https://gist.github.com/mainerror/5012867
[11:37] <mutantkeyboard> ok, got recovery back
[11:37] <starks> Renpt0, replacing ios is impossible
[11:37] <Renpt0> Can you show me apreview?
[11:37] <mutantkeyboard> starks: not true
[11:37] <Renpt0> Why?
[11:37] <Renpt0> That's what I thought
[11:37] <Renpt0> :D
[11:37] <ProGEEK> 3gs maybe, probably not enough ram
[11:38] <ProGEEK> anyway - afk
[11:38] <Renpt0> Nothing is impossible bro , you just need to find the key
[11:38] <mutantkeyboard> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yO2KQHkt4A
[11:38] <starks> there's not enough low-level access
[11:38] <Renpt0> Have someone tierd the ubuntu yet?
[11:38] <mutantkeyboard> planetBeing made it possible with iPhone 3G
[11:38] <vibhav> Oh yes
[11:38] <mutantkeyboard> though nobody tried to play with the newer versions
[11:38] <vibhav> I have one
[11:39] <bjaanes> Im missing some project templates (notably Qt Quick UI) in qtcreator.  Anyone got any idea how to fix this?
[11:39] <vibhav> mutantkeyboard: Doctor mean Ubuntu Phone is working on the iPhone 3G?
[11:39] <Renpt0> Vibhav: how is the the version of the new ubuntu on the phone?
[11:39] <Renpt0> Because my iphone's new ios is crazy
[11:39] <mainerror> I reckon a "Known Ports" wiki page would be useful eh?
[11:39] <mutantkeyboard> oh yes
[11:39] <mutantkeyboard> that's pretty impossible at the moment
[11:39] <mutantkeyboard> :D
[11:39] <mutantkeyboard> sorry I missed the question completely
[11:40] <Vilsafur> mainerror : ok thenks
[11:40] <Vilsafur> mainerror : ok thanks
[11:40] <Renpt0> Ok :(
[11:40] <Renpt0> So what are you guys option about ubuntu on phone?
[11:40] <ProGEEK> i wonder if i can mount nfs
[11:41] <mainerror> Renpt0: So far it's a brilliant developer preview.
[11:41] <mutantkeyboard> ProGEEK: done
[11:41] <ProGEEK> reboot and see if it goes
[11:41] <Renpt0> mainerror: Have you teird it yet? If so can you send me a preview?
[11:41] <mutantkeyboard> it's weird. all of my android stuff is still there including ROM xD
[11:41] <AlanBell> mainerror: feel free to edit the ports page, it is a wiki
[11:41] <mainerror> Granted, I'm a bit biased but still.
[11:41] <mutantkeyboard> ProGEEK: yes it worked
[11:42] <mutantkeyboard> booted up
[11:42] <ProGEEK> you're welcome :D
[11:42] <mutantkeyboard> thanks man ...
[11:42] <mainerror> Renpt0: What do you mean?
[11:42] <Renpt0> mainerror: I mean have you teird the ubuntu on the phone, and if so can you show me how it look like and give me a rate of 1-10?
[11:42] <mainerror> AlanBell: I know, I was just not sure whether I should create a new page for that or edit the ports page. :)
[11:43] <shaneo1> great phone calls are working for me :-)  just a shame mobile 3G broadband don't :-(
[11:43] <ProGEEK> no to nfs, yes to cifs/smb
[11:43] <ProGEEK> lets see if i can play videos off my server
[11:43] <hj> shaneo1, what phone are you using?
[11:43] <shaneo1> gnex
[11:43] <mainerror> Renpt0: Yes, I've tried it. It is a 10 from my perspective. There are a lot of YouTube videos on Ubuntu Touch already, might want to check them out.
[11:43] <hj> I have LG Nexus 4 and no GSM connectivity, any tips to get it to work?
[11:44] <Renpt0> mainerror: thanks bro, I will check them out right now ;)
[11:44] <Renpt0> Can someone give me a youtube username, just got mine killed after someone hacking it and closing the account... :/
[11:44] <xsoh> Is there a way to flash it on nexus 7 3g?
[11:44] <grizmawe> hj, do you have a sim password?
[11:44] <ProGEEK> segfault :(
[11:45] <mainerror> Renpt0: You don't need an account to watch YouTube videos.
[11:45] <ogra_> xsoh, same way as for all other nexus7 ?
[11:45] <Renpt0> mainerror: I know ;), I am a youtube celeb :D
[11:45] <hj> grizmawe, default pin code
[11:45] <xsoh> it didn't work...it says Unsupported device, autodetect fails device
[11:45] <Renpt0> Mainerror: was before after getting hacked and removed from youtube :(
[11:45] <kyler084> hi
[11:45] <kyler084> anytime today that the porting guide will be coming out ?
[11:45] <kyler084> ?
[11:45] <ProGEEK> hahaha playing an MP4 file off the NAS via smbfs
[11:46] <ogra_> xsoh, is the bootloader already unlocked ?
[11:46] <mutantkeyboard> ProGEEK  -> can't install anything anymore   Temporary failure resolving 'ports.ubuntu.com'
[11:46] <grizmawe> hj, you need to remove the password - put it in another mobile to remove it.
[11:47] <xsoh> ogra_, yes...i had installed ubuntu on nexus 7 then I fall back to andtoid..now I would like to flash the new phontab but couldn't do it
[11:47] <hj> grizmawe, thanks for the tip
[11:47] <grizmawe> hj, np
[11:47] <ProGEEK> mutantkeyboard, reconnect to wifi
[11:47] <kyler084> any time in which porting guid will be coming online guys ?
[11:47] <kyler084> ?
[11:47] <kyler084> ?
[11:48] <ProGEEK> ogra_, playing over the network: http://imgur.com/xhgANlv
[11:48] <ogra_> kyler084, after the ubuntuonair session
[11:48] <kyler084> when that ?
[11:48] <mutantkeyboard> i did but this seems to be a problem with the router :/
[11:48] <NameX> ProGEEK is you ubuntu really slow ?
[11:48] <ogra_> ProGEEK, haha, awesome !
[11:48] <shaneo1> Rhythmbox for Phones, could be good right now :-)
[11:48] <Renpt0> ProGEEK: Good job bro :D
[11:48] <kyler084> orga_, whens that ?
[11:48] <ProGEEK> NameX, not at all
[11:48] <ProGEEK> does after i leave apps open
[11:49] <ogra_> kyler084, see the porting wikipage
[11:49] <NameX> mine is rly slow
[11:49] <ogra_> !porting
[11:49] <ogra_> !ports
[11:49] <ogra_> ah
[11:49] <kyler084> orga_, okay
[11:49] <mainerror> xsoh: Did the same thing like you.
[11:49] <ProGEEK> ok what about mp3's...
[11:49] <mutantkeyboard> ProGEEK: this is a shitty router. it plays up sometimes when it comes to DHCP pool
[11:49] <mainerror> I had Ubuntu installed on my N7 and the went back to Android.
[11:49] <mutantkeyboard> now works
[11:49] <mainerror> Now I'm on Ubuntu Touch.
[11:50] <AlanBell> mainerror: feel free to edit that page or create a new one, if someone doesn't like it they can undo it or improve it
[11:50] <ProGEEK> heh
[11:50] <ProGEEK> gotta love crappy routers
[11:50] <mainerror> AlanBell: Fair enough. :)
[11:50] <mutantkeyboard> heheheh ... yeah, but this iz ZTE
[11:50] <icarus49> hi eveyboy :D
[11:50] <mutantkeyboard> hahahaha
[11:50] <xsoh> mainerror, is your nexus 7 3g?
[11:50] <ProGEEK> yup, playing the NCIS theme song :D
[11:50] <mainerror> No, but there should be no difference.
[11:51] <ProGEEK> so mp3's work
[11:51] <ProGEEK> divx doesnt
[11:51] <mutantkeyboard> via network or natively on device?
[11:51] <ProGEEK> lets try my mp4 copy of the star trek movie
[11:51] <NameX> omg cant power it anymore ...
[11:51] <ProGEEK> well, natively on the device, but the source file in on the network
[11:51] <icarus49> How can i accept a host key on nexus 4 if i don't have adb installed ?
[11:51] <ProGEEK> NameX, hold down the power button till its completely off, then power it back on
[11:51] <xsoh> mainerror, I think there is...I found some people had the same problem..all of them using n7 3g
[11:52] <NameX> thats what i m trying but ... nothing happen
[11:52] <ProGEEK> damn, sound, no video
[11:53] <icarus49> How can i accept a host key on nexus 4 if i don't have adb installer ?
[11:53] <NameX> ok thats good
[11:53] <NameX> is that normal that i have some contact ?
[11:53] <ProGEEK> yes NameX
[11:54] <NameX> lol with sms etc
[11:55] <hj> NameX, yep, read release notes https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes
[11:55] <oddjobz> Hey guys, anyone know if there's a way to load the current preview onto a 'google nexus S' .. (I currently get "Device detected as crespo" "Unsupported device, autodetect fails device") ??
[11:55] <ProGEEK> ok with anything that requires buffering too much, it wont play video
[11:55] <hj> NameX, there is also info how to remove those
[11:55] <ogra_> oddjobz, nx S doesnt have enough ram i fear
[11:55] <oddjobz> Ah, bugger .. :(
[11:55] <ogra_> err
[11:56] <Jbmild> Hi guys
[11:56] <ProGEEK> haha im loving this
[11:56] <Jbmild> pushing /home/myuser/Downloads/phablet-flash/95/quantal-preinstall-phablet-armhf.zip to /sdcard/autodeploy.zip
[11:56] <Jbmild> how long is that supposed to take?
[11:57] <ProGEEK> 5-10 mins
[11:57] <Jbmild> I have no progress bar and no prompt if I want to continue
[11:57] <NameX> omg i thought 2G worked
[11:57] <oddjobz> agra :: seriously, 1G RAM isn't enough ????
[11:58] <NameX> so this ubuntu version doest allow to call or send sms ?
[11:58] <Jbmild> any way of seeing how much it's "pushed"
[11:58] <ProGEEK> it does NameX, unless your sim has a pin on it
[11:58] <ogra_> oddjobz, hmm, seems i mixed that up, does it actually have 1G ?
[11:58] <ProGEEK> no Jbmild
[11:58] <ogra_> i thought crespo is 512
[11:58] <Jbmild> @ProGEEK thanks
[11:59] <NameX> you mean my sim shouldnt have pin code on it ?
[11:59] <grizmawe> oddjobz, nexus S has 512Mb ram
[11:59] <oddjobz> ogra_ :: just checked on my apps page, 80k used from 0.98G ....
[11:59] <ProGEEK> if your sim has a pin code on it, it wont work, cause there is no way to unlock the sim yet
[11:59] <NameX> LoL !!!
[11:59] <grizmawe> NameX, yep you need to remove sim pin (put it in another phone)
[11:59] <NameX> fuck how can i remove it ?
[11:59] <NameX> LoL
[11:59] <ProGEEK> yeah what grizmawe said
[11:59] <NameX> nooooooooo ;)
[12:00] <ProGEEK> lol
[12:00] <Tm_T> NameX: language please
[12:00] <grizmawe> NameX, if no other phone then I guess reinstall android and redo you last hours tinkering - good practice :(
[12:00] <ProGEEK> but yes it works, i been sending and receiving texts all day
[12:00] <NameX> Tm_T sry ;)
[12:00] <ProGEEK> followed closly by replies saying "Who is this?" lol
[12:00] <gnagno> hello all
[12:00] <ogra_> oddjobz, werid, the specs for crespo say 512M everywhere
[12:00] <rymate1234> Lol
[12:00] <NameX> grizmawe yep i ll do that i think
[12:00] <ProGEEK> im getting pretty fluent with flashing my phone lol
[12:01] <Jbmild> @ProGEEK what Network service provider are you using?
[12:01] <gnagno> I have a simple question, if I will install ubuntu mobile on my galaxy nexus via clockwork recovery, will the installation overwrite clockwork recovery as well? will I be still able to use clockwork?
[12:01] <ProGEEK> Jbmild, im in New Zealand, so Telecom New Zealand
[12:01] <mainerror> oddjobz, ogra_ : Could be swap as well.
[12:01] <ogra_> yeah
[12:01] <ProGEEK> gnagno, it installs a modified version of CWM
[12:01] <mainerror> It should be 512 MB.
[12:01] <vikewoods> to gnagno yes
[12:01] <ProGEEK> so yes you can still use it
[12:02] <oddjobz> ogra_ :: sorry, I'm telling porkies, that's 1G of internal storage .. looks like "RAM" is actually 350Mb
[12:02] <NameX> So i have to download factory android version on ubuntu website then do flash command ?
[12:02] <ogra_> ah, yeah
[12:02] <grizmawe> oddjobz, its 512 but 128Mb given to GPU
[12:02] <mainerror> oddjobz: That's currently free RAM. :)
[12:02] <ogra_> oddjobz, that wont work
[12:02] <ProGEEK> right, time to find the background and see if it can be changed
[12:02] <gnagno> that's great... so I can simply install ubuntu mobile, then boot again in recovery and simply flash android back?
[12:02] <ProGEEK> hope its not hard coded
[12:02] <ProGEEK> yep gnagno, in a nutshell
[12:02] <oddjobz> ogra_ :: so I guess Android has it's advantages then ... :)
[12:02] <mainerror> Not free ... available I meant ...
[12:03] <gnagno> thank you ProGEEK and vikewoods going to download all the stuff now :D
[12:03] <ProGEEK> what i did was, when i had Android on it, i took a backup of the Android rom
[12:03] <ProGEEK> then installed ubuntu touch
[12:03] <ogra_> oddjobz, well, ubuntu touch is in its very early stages, nothing is optimized for ram usage etc
[12:03] <ogra_> though i doubt we'll ever officially support 512M devices
[12:03] <ProGEEK> then rebooted into recovery and backed that up too, so now i can use the backup recovery to switch between Ubuntu Touch and CM10.1
[12:03] <mainerror> oddjobz: Well Android has been around since 2005. Ubuntu Touch since yesterday.
[12:04] <grizmawe> oddjobz, once ubuntu touch is released the code will be better optimised and then may well be usable on nexus S
[12:04] <grizmawe> oddjobz, it is currently full of debug symbols etc
[12:04] <ProGEEK> ogra_, like Cyanogenmod, you can be sure, people will rewrite and trim the fat :)
[12:04] <oddjobz> grizmawe :: :) sure, however in the meantime, I have a spare S, but there's no way I'm trying this on my '4' ...
[12:04] <ProGEEK> who knows, they might get it useable
[12:04] <mainerror> Well the idea has been around since 2005, the system itself since 2008 ...
[12:04] <ogra_> ProGEEK, thats the purpose ;)
[12:04] <Jbmild> @oddjobz why no way you trying it on your 4"?
[12:05] <ProGEEK> oddjobz, runs a dream on the 4
[12:05] <ogra_> oddjobz, why not ?
[12:05] <ProGEEK> like... slicker than snot on a doorknob
[12:05] <oddjobz> I'm quite happy with Android on my 4, i.e. happy it always works ...
[12:05] <ogra_> just do a backup and if you dont like it, restore
[12:05] <ProGEEK> i need a new analogy...
[12:05] <grizmawe> oddjobz, im using it on my galaxy nexus - my only phone. I can make and receive calls, send SMS. all I need while I develop some apps
[12:05] <mainerror> The Nexus series is a developer reference series, you can go back to Android at any time without any issues.
[12:05] <toXel> hey guys! short question: will the N7 get the same tablet interface like the N10 just with a smaller interface size?
[12:06] <Jbmild> @grizmawe did you need to unlock the bootloader AND root it?
[12:06] <ProGEEK> toXel, probably
[12:06] <Jbmild> or is a simple bootloader unlock enough
[12:06] <ogra_> toXel, will ? it doesn already
[12:06] <oddjobz> Ok, tvm.
[12:06] <ProGEEK> Jbmild, just bootloader
[12:06] <Jbmild> I'm having trouble believing it's still busy pushing the zip file
[12:06] <jounih> grizmawe: what kind of battery life you getting?
[12:06] <ogra_> toXel, or do you refer to the n7 desktop image ?
[12:06] <toXel> nope touch
[12:06] <grizmawe> Jbmild, yep but was already done in my case. The instructions on the wiki are accurate and easy :)
[12:07] <ogra_> toXel, touch is the same on all devices that are currently supported
[12:07] <ProGEEK> Gonna play my SameGame port :)
[12:07] <Jbmild> nevermind I decided to strace the push process it's still writing :-(
[12:07] <grizmawe> Jbmild, galaexy nexus has always been a dev phone so no difficulty in unlocking just select it from the recovery menu IIRC
[12:07] <Jbmild> Guess I just need get even more patience.
[12:07] <ProGEEK> need to fix the ui me thinks
[12:07] <mainerror> grizmawe: I envy you. Can't wait to get my ThinkPad sold so I can buy a GN.
[12:08] <macnoob> good morning!  Does anyone have experience with installing Ubuntu Mobile on their GNex from OSX?
[12:08] <grizmawe> Jbmild, overnight I left it off charge and had 86% this morning so about the same as android
[12:08] <ogra_> macnoob, i heard someone say last night that he made it working but had to compile fastboot and adb first
[12:09] <mainerror> Oh hai! Just found a bug. :D
[12:09] <ProGEEK> Compiling? nooooooooo
[12:09] <macnoob> gotcha.... looks like im installing ubuntu on my mac first!
[12:09] <grizmawe> macnoob, you can install from OSX manually using fastboot to push the images. ProGEEK has been coaching this morning :)
[12:11] <Jaffa> <sigh /> Can we have a separate mailing list for development vs. users? I don't have a phone compatible with the pre-release image. Nor am I going to go and buy one. So don't want to be spammed about using it on Verizon (not in the US) Galaxy S3 (not got an Android phone)
[12:11] <mainerror> Added a "Known Ports" section to the porting page.
[12:11] <mainerror> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
[12:11] <mainerror> If you guys find a port, just add it to that list.
[12:12] <ogra_> ++
[12:13] <Jbmild> OK rebooted phone now trying to push again while running via sudo
[12:15] <ogra_> mainerror, there seems to be a separate page in the works that goes live later today i just heard
[12:16] <webe> GS3 running a port - http://rootzwiki.com/topic/39299-romwip-ubuntu-touch-on-d2vzw-dev-previewphantom-022213/
[12:16] <grizmawe> damn I should be working instead of in here and writing apps
[12:17] <icarus49> i need to help ,guys
[12:17] <icarus49> i don't have have adb installer
[12:17] <icarus49> so can i have another way to accpect host key on my nexus 4?
[12:18] <k1l> icarus49: you mean you have no adb on your ubuntu computer? which ubuntu do you have?
[12:18] <Jbmild> stupid windows-type problem I just needed to restart the damn adb services it seems
[12:19] <Ivanka> hi ogra
[12:19] <Jbmild> @icarus you need to install adb first
[12:19] <icarus49> yes
[12:19] <icarus49> the lastest ubuntu
[12:19] <ProGEEK> damn score wont update :(
[12:19] <icarus49> because i run ubuntu os on vmware :D
[12:20]  * ogra_ hugs Ivanka 
[12:20] <Jbmild> @icarus sudo add-apt-repository ppa:phablet-team/tools
[12:20] <dank101> Yo
[12:20] <shaneo1> icarus49 : follow this page and you shouldn't go wrong https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[12:20] <Jbmild> @icarus sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get install phablet-tools android-tools-adb android-tools-fastboot.
[12:20] <jounih> icarus49: it'll be fine on vmware
[12:21] <Jbmild> @icarus or follow Shane01's advice
[12:21] <Jbmild> I'm doing it in a VM via Fedora19 in Gnome Boxes, shouldn't matter if it's in a VM just make sure USB devices are shared between physicial and virtual
[12:21] <icarus49> thank you very much man
[12:22] <icarus49> iwill try :D
[12:22] <mainerror> Added the GSIII port to that list.
[12:22] <ProGEEK> SameGame 2.0 :D http://imgur.com/MVgtzUS
[12:22] <mainerror> ogra_: Oh I see, well 'till then we'll have a list which we can link to.
[12:23] <ogra_> yeah
[12:23] <Toby_> Hi im bit confused .. which image file needs to be downloaded to install ubuntu on my galaxy nexus
[12:23] <Toby_> ?
[12:23] <shaneo1> ok just made a call to a client of mine and almost burnt my ear cos the screen doesn't black out whilst making call, I should limit calls to 5 minutes not 30.... lol
[12:23] <NameX> ProGEEK what mean adb reboot-bootloader ? i can do it manuelly when i power no ?
[12:23] <ProGEEK> haha
[12:23] <mainerror> Toby_: Use the toolkit for that, it'll fetch the necessary files for you.
[12:24] <ProGEEK> whut ?
[12:24] <Toby_> quantal-preinstalled-system-armel+maguro.img
[12:24] <Toby_> ?
[12:24] <NameX> i want to put android back and it says that i have to do command adb reboot-bootloader
[12:24] <mainerror> Toby_: Yea, the GN is codenamed maguro.
[12:24] <NameX> thats the same that power with volum + & - & power on no ?
[12:25] <Toby_> and quantal-preinstalled-system-armel+maguro.img.md5sum
[12:25] <Toby_> both this files are required right ..?
[12:25] <ProGEEK> on your pc, with the cable plugged in, run adb reboot bootloader
[12:28] <ProGEEK> hrm, keyboard doesnt go away when switching screens
[12:28] <dank101> BUG ALERT
[12:28] <dank101> SOUND THE ALARMS
[12:28]  * popey changes the bulb
[12:29] <grizmawe> ProGEEK, no - need to swipe down at its edge
[12:29] <ProGEEK> i know how to dismiss it, i just thought it would automatically
[12:29] <grizmawe> popey, aww funniest scene from all red dwarf episodes :D
[12:29] <ProGEEK> ok time to switch back to CM10.1
[12:30] <ProGEEK> brb, needa reload unity
[12:30] <dank101> it is CM
[12:30] <dank101> modified CM
[12:30] <mutantkeyboard> barebones of cm
[12:31] <dank101> exactly
[12:31] <NameX> it says flashboot not found
[12:31] <ogra_> dank101, yeah, else HW support woudl suck
[12:31] <NameX> maybe line in .sh not good for mac os ?
[12:31] <ogra_> NameX, its fastboot, not flashboot
[12:31] <mutantkeyboard> NameX: what device do you try to flash?
[12:31] <dank101> i can port this to ANY device with CM on it already
[12:31] <zAo^2> I wonder if a future release of Ubuntu (desktop) will ever use SurfaceFlinger :)
[12:31] <NameX> i m trying to go back to android
[12:31] <vibhav> ogra_: You're still handling these people? :)
[12:32] <ogra_> dank101, well, no, you need to port the ubuntu CM layer
[12:32] <ogra_> vibhav, sure
[12:32] <dank101> That too
[12:32] <mutantkeyboard> NameX: you have to download factory image for your device and use fastboot flash-all
[12:32] <NameX> this line doesnt work in flash-all.sh fastboot flash bootloader bootloader-mako-makoz10o.img
[12:32]  * vibhav hugs ogra_ 
[12:32] <ogra_> dank101, but yeah, once you have done that it will work on any device CM works on too
[12:32]  * ogra_ hugs vibhav 
[12:32] <NameX> i tried to put ./ before fastboot but nothing
[12:32] <mutantkeyboard> don't run flash-all.sh
[12:33] <dank101> Sudo fastboot
[12:33] <schasch> hi, does someone know in what file  the wpa-password are stored in? I do want to enter all my looong passwords simple with 'vi' by ssh.
[12:33] <mutantkeyboard> ./fastboot flash-all system.img recovery.img boot.img
[12:33] <NameX> thats what they say on ubuntu install site
[12:33] <mutantkeyboard> ignore that, you need to follow Andorid install guide
[12:34] <grizmawe> schasch, no idea but they are likely hashed anyway
[12:34] <dank101> how many people actually HAVE ubuntu touch working
[12:34] <popey> o/
[12:34] <ogra_> schasch, it uses network-manager, just look up docs how to do it ....
[12:35] <ali1234> i had it working
[12:35] <dank101> Had?
[12:35] <ogra_> schasch, doesnt differ from NM on a PC
[12:35] <schasch> grizmawe :  thanks
[12:35] <schasch> ogra_ : OK, have to look at it....
[12:36] <ProGEEK> stupid laptop
[12:36] <grizmawe> schasch, found it: sudo /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/<SID name>
[12:37] <grizmawe> schasch, and the psk is plain text
[12:37] <romain__> Hi, two naive questions : can you backup/restore your app's data while restoring Android afer trying ubuntu touch ?
[12:37] <NameX> mutantkeyboard: their .sh doesnt work on mac :(
[12:37] <grizmawe> schasch, in theory create 1 of these files for each connection. Not tried though :)
[12:37] <ali1234> romain__: use carbon
[12:37] <ali1234> it doesn't backup everything but it's the best there is
[12:37] <mainerror> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1131722
[12:37] <mainerror> Can anyone confirm this?
[12:38] <romain__> ali1234: ok it's a titanium backup like?
[12:38] <ProGEEK> grizmawe, phablet-network-setup will copy your current network setup to the device
[12:38] <ali1234> romain__: yes but does not need root
[12:38] <ProGEEK> ubuntu only afaik
[12:38] <romain__> cool
[12:38] <NameX> ProGEEK could you help me to go back to android pls ? :D
[12:38] <ProGEEK> did you back up your rom ?
[12:39] <NameX> i download img from google like they say on site
[12:39] <ProGEEK> so just follow their instructions
[12:39] <romain__> 2nde navie question Does it break the warranty ?
[12:39] <NameX> Restoring Android part
[12:39] <grizmawe> mainerror, yep - confirmed ill add my confirmation to the bug report
[12:39] <NameX> but when i launch flash-all.sh that doesn't work
[12:40] <ProGEEK> what happens
[12:40] <mainerror> Oh just observed something I should add to the bug report.
[12:40] <NameX> ok i found the error
[12:40] <dholbach> →→ http://developer.ubuntu.com/2013/02/taking-ubuntu-touch-to-new-levels/ ←←
[12:40] <NameX> ty anyway ;)
[12:41]  * mainerror hugs dholbach 
[12:41] <zedd> hey all.. i just got it running a few hours ago.. i cleared all the dummy data and stuff.. now im trying to figure out how to get my 1k+ contacts from gmail into my phone... anyone know how to do this?
[12:41]  * dholbach hugs mainerror back :)
[12:42] <icarus49> My computer can't connect to the phone
[12:42] <icarus49> I use Ubuntu on vmware
[12:42] <romain__> So there is no way to like make a ghost image of your current android (with all the data that come with) and restore it ?
[12:42] <grizmawe> schasch, confirmed the bug
[12:42] <Jbmild> @romain there are a couple of utilityes out there to do exactly that
[12:42] <icarus49> when i run adb devices it has error: device not founf ? How can i do ?
[12:43] <Jbmild> @romain have a look at http://www.mediafire.com/?bcsg3s9gcw23c9a
[12:43] <mainerror> grizmawe: Thanks.
[12:43] <ogra_> zedd, see the topic, its in the release notes
[12:43] <romain__> Jbmild: (wow .exe ?!) but thanks
[12:43] <NameX> icarus49 if you have nexus juste use pdanet to get driver ok
[12:43] <hj> zedd, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes#Contacts, can you create a csv file out of them which you upload to phone?
[12:44] <ProGEEK> my eyes are burning =/
[12:44] <zedd> ya i tried that
[12:44] <zedd> but the problem is google allows exporting with 3 formats
[12:44] <zedd> but none of them are compliant with the format in data.csv
[12:44] <mainerror> ProGEEK: Quit looking at the sun ...
[12:45] <ProGEEK> its like.. 1:44 am lol
[12:45] <zedd> and if i have to manually do the whole file... it kind of defeats the whole purpose
[12:45] <mainerror> Well then the moon.
[12:45] <schasch> icarus49  : go to real PC, my vmware had problems to...
[12:45] <ProGEEK> lol
[12:45] <ProGEEK> oh a porting guide, nice
[12:45] <ProGEEK> hackers, start haxxing
[12:47] <icarus49> before i did , my ubuntu can connect to unlock boatloade But now it can't connect to nexus 4 :(
[12:48] <mainerror> Oh didn't even notice the porting guide yet!
[12:48]  * mainerror hugs dholbach even more
[12:48] <dholbach> :-)
[12:48] <ProGEEK> hug? that deserves a big wet sloppy kiss xD
[12:48] <dholbach> it's not only my work :)
[12:48] <dholbach> but yeah I'll pass it on! :-D
[12:49] <mainerror> I know but because of lack of other names in the wiki history I can't hug the others.
[12:50] <Namidairo> i read kiss as fist
[12:51] <Namidairo> i think I need a drink
[12:51]  * AlanBell pours Namidairo a drink
[12:52] <mainerror> ProGEEK: Nah, Daniel likes hugs. :)
[12:53] <ProGEEK> no bromance? lol
[12:53] <NameX> omg it stay blocked at the colored X :(
[12:53] <NameX> what can i do ?
[12:54] <mainerror> NameX: I don't quite understand where it got stuck. Can you take a picture of it and upload it?
[12:54] <ProGEEK> right, 2 hours sleep, then the seminar / hangout at 4
[12:54] <NameX> i put android back again flash it it works good now it reboot then it is blocked when there is the colored X after google
[12:55] <mutantkeyboard> ProGEEK: one more question. i made a sample app for the phone, but I can't publish it ... it says that publishing isn't available for project
[12:55] <Namidairo> oh he's talking about the boot animation for the nexus devices
[12:55] <mainerror> NameX: Oh, the Nexus X boot screen.
[12:55] <ProGEEK> did you create the app in a project ?
[12:55] <NameX> yep
[12:55] <mutantkeyboard> yes
[12:55] <mutantkeyboard> I used a QML project
[12:56] <ProGEEK> an Ubuntu UI project ?
[12:56] <mutantkeyboard> let me see
[12:56] <NameX> mainerror : you know what i could do ?
[12:56] <mainerror> "Reliable sources tell us, there’s going to be a surprise announce during the hangout as well." wut!
[12:56] <zedd> so no one knows how to convert google csv to be compatible with csv format for the phone?
[12:57] <mainerror> NameX: For how long has it been stuck on that screen?
[12:57] <Namidairo> the surprise is that he ported it to his galaxy tab
[12:57] <ProGEEK> where did you read that mainerror ?
[12:57] <NameX> 10 minutes +
[12:57] <Namidairo> surprise.
[12:57] <mainerror> ProGEEK: http://developer.ubuntu.com/2013/02/taking-ubuntu-touch-to-new-levels/
[12:57] <sdaf> is there a roadmap for ubuntu phone features etc.??
[12:57] <mainerror> Towards the end.
[12:57] <mutantkeyboard> I took the Ubunutu UI project and gives me an error
[12:57] <mainerror> NameX: Have you tried to hard reboot it?
[12:57] <NameX> how ?
[12:57] <mutantkeyboard> module "QtTest" is not installed
[12:57] <mutantkeyboard>      import QtTest 1.0
[12:58] <mainerror> Like, ripping out the battery.
[12:58] <Namidairo> comment out a couple of package includes... tada it builds
[12:58] <NameX> no .. cant acces to it
[12:58] <ProGEEK> make sure its an Ubuntu UI - Simple
[12:58] <Namidairo> that was too easy
[12:58] <mainerror> What device is that again NameX ?
[12:58] <ProGEEK> then copy your code over then try
[12:58] <NameX> nexus 4
[12:58] <mainerror> Oh.
[12:59] <mainerror> Technically, you could disassemble the back of the phone.
[12:59] <mutantkeyboard> ok
[12:59] <mutantkeyboard> let's see
[12:59] <Jbmild> Hi guys found a nice way to see the progress on the push
[13:00] <ProGEEK> just hold vol down and power for bout 30 seconds
[13:00] <NameX> cant do it now i m at work ...
[13:00] <Jbmild> install a file browser on the phone and check the flile size on /sdcard/autodeploy.zip
[13:00] <Jbmild> it should be 481 when it's done
[13:00] <mutantkeyboard> right, it works now
[13:00] <ProGEEK> right, i need to comatose
[13:00] <mutantkeyboard> NameX: leave it for a minute... it takes a while while Dalvik cache rebuilds
[13:01] <mainerror> mutantkeyboard: More than ten minutes?
[13:01] <ProGEEK> or dalvik needs wiping
[13:01] <mainerror> That's not a bad idea.
[13:01] <mainerror> wiping the caches.
[13:01] <ProGEEK> might be residual from his previous android install
[13:01] <ProGEEK> remembering ubuntu doesnt touch that partition
[13:01] <em_> are there already any apps to try except preinstalled?
[13:01] <NameX> mutantkeyboard: yeah i only can do that atm ^^
[13:02] <NameX> just hope it is not broken ;)
[13:02] <mainerror> em_: Only if you write some and upload them to your device.
[13:02] <mainerror> NameX: There should be no reason for it to be broken.
[13:02] <grizmawe> em_, Im working on a clock - I missed not having alarms last night :P
[13:03] <NameX> mainerror only flashing could broke it right ?
[13:03] <ProGEEK> i think its caches personally
[13:03] <zedd> has no one tried to import large amounts of contacts yet?
[13:03] <mainerror> Best bit of advice I can give you when flashing system images, never panic if something doesn't work as expected.
[13:03] <ProGEEK> i say, wipe all 3 caches
[13:03] <ProGEEK> err
[13:03] <ProGEEK> data and the 2 caches
[13:04] <NameX> here flashing was ok its just starting ..
[13:04] <mainerror> NameX: The recovery image shouldn't be affected from flashing a custom system image.
[13:05] <Namidairo> Package complete: /home/akane/phablet-dev/system/out/target/product/tf201/cm-10.1-20130222-UNOFFICIAL-tf201.zip
[13:05] <Namidairo> well that was too easy
[13:05] <em_> grizmawe, yeah, this is really what I feel a lack of, and a music player
[13:05] <mainerror> em_: Spotify please. :D
[13:05] <mainerror> DO EEET!
[13:06] <ProGEEK> Namidairo, you rule
[13:06] <ProGEEK> now, does it work ?
[13:06] <grizmawe> em_, my bro is planning to write a basic music player this weekend
[13:06] <Namidairo> i ceebs backing up /data at this hour
[13:06] <NameX> mainerror : i used the method for going back to android on ubuntu website and it flashed everything like when you go to ubuntu phone
[13:07] <NameX> mainerror : but here a script does everything
[13:07] <mainerror> That's good.
[13:07] <em_> mainerror, it's not available in my country
[13:07] <ProGEEK> fixed NameX ?
[13:07] <mainerror> :(
[13:08] <NameX> no still in colored X
[13:08] <em_> grizmawe, oh, that would be great
[13:08] <NameX> for 20 minutes now
[13:08] <ProGEEK> did you reboot to recovery and wipe the caches ?
[13:08] <NameX> the script does it for me
[13:08] <ProGEEK> has the script finished ?
[13:09] <NameX> yep sure
[13:09] <NameX> its after rebooting that it block
[13:09] <em_> maybe, there is any centralized repository is being formed for apps?
[13:09] <NameX> when there is the X colored
[13:09] <ProGEEK> ok so do it manually, reboot into recover, wipe data, wipe cache, then go into advanced and wipe dalvik
[13:09] <mainerror> NameX: Can you manually reboot into recovery?
[13:09] <ProGEEK> then try rebooting
[13:09] <IrcDroidClient> can I use qml on another platform to develop ubuntu phone apps?
[13:09] <NameX> cant reboot atm ...
[13:10] <ProGEEK> why not
[13:10] <NameX> bcz it is blocked
[13:10] <NameX> at the X colored screen
[13:10] <dank101> no
[13:10] <ProGEEK> its not, hold down the power button
[13:10] <ogra_> NameX, hold the power button
[13:10] <mainerror> Just keep pressing the power button.
[13:10] <NameX> i tried but nothing
[13:10] <NameX> iho ....
[13:10] <mainerror> Odd
[13:10] <NameX> wait ... stay tuned ! :D
[13:10] <ProGEEK> hold it, not press it
[13:10] <mainerror> :D
[13:11] <ProGEEK> once the screen goes black, release, hold down vol down and power
[13:11] <asdfgh> Hello
[13:12] <NameX> cant acces recovery mode :(
[13:12] <mainerror> o_O
[13:12] <Jbmild> So I got it installed but I'm a bit stuck
[13:12] <ProGEEK> be more specific
[13:12] <NameX> droid with red "!"
[13:12] <ProGEEK> ok reboot to bootloader
[13:12] <asdfgh> Is there any processor requirement for ubuntu? Will it run on 600MHz armv6 lg gt540?
[13:12] <ProGEEK> re-run the script
[13:12] <Jbmild> how do I set my wireless network password
[13:13] <mainerror> asdfgh: armv6 isn't supported as far as I know.
[13:13] <knepe> Hi, is there a guide on how to install Ubuntu on Windows?
[13:13] <NameX> ok i do
[13:13] <mainerror> knepe: You mean to install the preview from Windows?
[13:13] <knepe> Yes
[13:13] <mainerror> Hang on.
[13:14] <NameX> hooo !! didnt saw that
[13:14] <NameX> sending 'bootloader' (2188 KB)... OKAY writing 'bootloader'... OKAY rebooting into bootloader... OKAY sending 'radio' (54593 KB)... OKAY writing 'radio'... OKAY rebooting into bootloader... OKAY archive does not contain 'boot.sig' archive does not contain 'recovery.sig' archive does not contain 'system.sig'
[13:14] <NameX> look at end
[13:14] <mainerror> knepe: https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg00222.html
[13:14] <grizmawe> Jbmild, when you click the network you want to join it should ask you
[13:15] <Jbmild> I'm not getting a prompt
[13:15] <hj> Jbmild, WPA2/Enterprise?
[13:15] <NameX> after that it does other thing which are ok
[13:15] <IrcDroidClient> how do I change my nick?
[13:16] <AlanBell> IrcDroidClient: /nick newnick normally
[13:16] <ky4eryavii_pon4o> someone can help me ?
[13:16] <AlanBell> !someone | ky4eryavii_pon4o
[13:16] <ky4eryavii_pon4o> Starting new HTTP connection (1): cdimage.ubuntu.com Download directory set to /home/patap/Загрузки/phablet-flash/95 Device detected as /sbin/sh: getprop: not found Unsupported device, autodetect fails device
[13:16] <ciphoenix> AlanBell thanks
[13:16] <ky4eryavii_pon4o> why my device not found?
[13:17] <ogra_> ky4eryavii_pon4o, which nexus is that ?
[13:17] <mainerror> ky4eryavii_pon4o: What device?
[13:17] <ky4eryavii_pon4o> nexus s
[13:17] <knepe> thanks mainerror
[13:17] <mainerror> It is not supported.
[13:17] <ogra_> S isnt supported
[13:17] <mainerror> knepe: yw
[13:17] <Jbmild> @hj yep WPA/WPA2 Enterprise
[13:17] <k1l> !register | ciphoenix you maybe want to register too
[13:17] <dank101> Yep no S support
[13:17] <grizmawe> ky4eryavii_pon4o, did you put the device into dev mode (click build number 7 times) and then enable usb debugging in settings?
[13:17] <ciphoenix> can I use qt on windows to develop qml apps for ubuntu phone?
[13:18] <ky4eryavii_pon4o> but it shall found
[13:18] <dank101> No
[13:18] <dank101> NO
[13:18] <rymate1234> Probably not as far as I know
[13:18] <grizmawe> ky4eryavii_pon4o, Nexus S not supported yet as it only has 512 ram
[13:18] <jounih> ciphoenix: just run ubuntu in vmware, easier
[13:18] <NameX> it does the same
[13:18] <dank101> YOU NEED A UBUNTU MACHINE TO DEVELOP
[13:18] <ky4eryavii_pon4o> oh my
[13:18] <k1l> dank101: no need for caps :/
[13:18] <mainerror> ky4eryavii_pon4o: Make sure USB debugging is active.
[13:18] <dank101> sorry
[13:18] <NameX> ProGEEK : same after script again
[13:19] <ky4eryavii_pon4o> usb debug active
[13:19] <mainerror> However, like already mentioned, no Nexus S support.
[13:19] <ciphoenix> k1l  freenode is showing that I've registered as ciphoenix.  don't know why it's not reflecting here
[13:19] <ali1234> right, i edited .repo/manifest.xml like the guide says
[13:19] <grizmawe> ky4eryavii_pon4o, once it is release finished it may run in 512 ram as it will have been optimised and symbols removed... but not yet. this is still very early dev build
[13:19] <rymate1234> What about arch Linux?
[13:19] <ali1234> then i did repo sync and it says: error: .repo/manifests/: contains uncommitted changes
[13:19] <mainerror> rymate1234: 14:18 <dank101> YOU NEED A UBUNTU MACHINE TO DEVELOP
[13:19] <ky4eryavii_pon4o> i whant try )
[13:19] <dank101> no
[13:20] <dank101> Or ubuntu based
[13:20] <k1l> ciphoenix: yes, you are logge in now
[13:20] <grizmawe> ky4eryavii_pon4o, then you will have to get a supported device - sorry :(
[13:20] <ciphoenix> jounih windows 8 for some reason doesn't allow VMs :(
[13:20] <dank101> you use windows 8?
[13:20] <dank101> get out.
[13:20] <dank101> now
[13:20] <mainerror> ciphoenix: Uh? Of course it does.
[13:20] <ogra_> dank101, please
[13:20]  * ProGEEK is away: I'm IDLE - AFK
[13:20] <dank101> before i start laughing
[13:20] <ogra_> dank101, no OS bashing in here
[13:21] <k1l> !away > ProGEEK
[13:21] <dank101> sorry XD
[13:21] <NameX> mainerror : what could i do now ? its the factory image from google website ..
[13:21] <grizmawe> ky4eryavii_pon4o, once the build is further along I imagine it will be supported as CM runs on nexus S
[13:21] <asdfgh> Is there some sort of emulator to run Ubuntu phone on x86 (PC)?
[13:21] <digitalfiz> dank101: not a very freindly or helpful approach
[13:21] <ogra_> asdfgh, the SDK brings one
[13:21] <Paul2> Is it possible to dual boot android and ubuntu at all? (presumably by replacing the bootloader)
[13:21] <mainerror> NameX: Hang on, I kind lost track of the conversation at some point, gotta read the backlog.
[13:21] <dank101> yes actually
[13:22] <ciphoenix> dank101 lol. it came with the laptop
[13:22] <grizmawe> Paul2, no. Doubt it will ever be so as not enough space for images
[13:22] <dank101> ciphoenix install ubuntu...
[13:22] <dank101> No
[13:22] <Paul2> awww :(
[13:22] <dank101> You CAN dualboot
[13:22] <dank101> Paul is correct
[13:22] <dank101> i have a guide
[13:22] <rymate1234> I'll have to boot my Ubuntu vm :(
[13:23] <Paul2> I would be very interested in that guide
[13:23] <dank101> for nexus 7
[13:23] <asdfgh> Ogra_ : thanks
[13:23] <ciphoenix> mainerror yea. tried. no luck
[13:23] <rymate1234> (which is slow)
[13:23] <mainerror> dank101: There are valid reasons not to dual-boot on some devices that get shipped with Windows 8.
[13:23] <jounih> there is multirom for nexus 7
[13:23] <grizmawe> dank101, oh ok - I stand corrected :P
[13:23] <smartboyhw> ogra_, it is not possible to port Ubuntu phone to armv6 devices right?
[13:23] <dank101> let me get the dualboot guise
[13:24] <ravirdv> is anyone working on n9 porting?
[13:24] <ciphoenix> dank101 dual boot issues with uefi got me discouraged after 4 weeks :(
[13:24] <NameX> mainerror : maybe i should put CWM recovery ?
[13:24] <rymate1234> mainerror: which is...?
[13:24] <ogra_> smartboyhw, ubuntu doesnt have any support for any pre v7 HW anymore, so no
[13:24] <Bert_> Hi every body, the following don't work for me, do you know where I can find the information : no search function in the notification bar (displayed but not launchable), no phone (no sim card code asked)
[13:24] <ali1234> Bert_: neither of those is supposed to work
[13:24] <ogra_> ravirdv, go ahead, dont hold back :)
[13:24] <Paul2> You know Canonical are offering to flash phones at Mobile World Congress, is that just flash or will they have people to set up dual boot for me?
[13:24] <mainerror> rymate1234: If you have a newer Samsung Series 9 or 7 notebook. There is a bug in "samsung-laptop" which can render your device useless.
[13:25] <rymate1234> Ah
[13:25] <ogra_> Bert_, only SIMs without PIN work
[13:25] <grizmawe> Bert_, the sim unlock is not written yet. you need to unlock the sim before or put it in another phone and remove the pin
[13:25] <dank101> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34577851#post34577851
[13:25] <dank101> Dualboot guide
[13:25] <ogra_> Paul2, dualboot isnt supported
[13:25] <Paul2> dank101: thanks :)
[13:26] <dank101> Paul2: set it as a android ROM when you get to the point (phablet zip)
[13:26] <Bert_> ali1234: , ogra_ , grizmawe thank you for the information. I'll get rid of the pin code then :)
[13:26] <dank101> and you MUST have TWRP already installed
[13:26] <dank101> MUST
[13:26] <mainerror> rymate1234: That bug was "fixed" in 3.8-rc6 by blacklisting that module so it doesn't load on boot, however 3.8 is available only for 13.04.
[13:26] <rymate1234> Ah
[13:27] <mainerror> So unless you want to get Ubuntu+1 you're kinda stuck with Windows 8 on such machines.
[13:27] <em_> is there any chance to make it work through proxy? export http_proxy doesn't help
[13:27] <mainerror> NameX: I'm not quite sure to be honest.
[13:27] <ciphoenix> its 63 days to 13.04 :( long time to wait
[13:28] <mainerror> NameX: Maybe try to find some similar issue on the internet, preferably on XDA.
[13:29] <smartboyhw> Guys, anyone actually *working* on porting a phone?
[13:29] <dank101> not yet
[13:29]  * smartboyhw wonders if he should try and do Galaxy Tabs
[13:29] <brooks> Need some help. Tried to reinstall android. adb say waiting for phone
[13:29] <smartboyhw> The trouble is: I don't have one:P
[13:29] <dank101> at 10:00 we will start porting
[13:29] <ali1234> ogra_: so 100% of touch preview is built to same CFLAGS as the resto of ubuntu arm repos?
[13:29] <mainerror> ciphoenix: Raring is pretty damn solid already, the only downside, installing the Ubuntu SDK is a bit complicated at the moment.
[13:29] <ogra_> ali1234, i think so, yes
[13:29] <smartboyhw> dank101, start porting which one?
[13:30] <smartboyhw> And 10:00 = ?
[13:30] <Namidairo> smartboyhw: trouble is, I think one of the galaxy tabs is already ported
[13:30] <smartboyhw> Namidairo, which one?
[13:30] <ogra_> smartboyhw, yes, go !
[13:30]  * smartboyhw goes to search for devices to port
[13:30] <AlanBell> ali1234: so no raspberry pi ARM6 port then?
[13:30] <smartboyhw> ogra_, what do you mean?
[13:30] <ogra_> * smartboyhw wonders if he should try and do Galaxy Tabs
[13:30] <smartboyhw> AlanBell, isn't ARMv6 unsuppported
[13:30] <ogra_> :)
[13:30] <Namidairo> unsure, I'd have to look on my logs on my arch install
[13:30] <mainerror> Make sure to add yourself to the list if you are working on a port. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[13:30] <Namidairo> lol
[13:31] <smartboyhw> Namidairo, make sure that guy is actually getting his port in the mainerror's wiki link
[13:31] <AlanBell> smartboyhw: yeah, it is on the main distro, I am just trying to understand the CFLAGS point that ali1234 raised
[13:31] <aoam> Hi, what are minimal requiments for mobile device?
[13:31] <mainerror> That's not my list but, yea make sure to add yourself to the list.
[13:31] <ali1234> AlanBell: yes basically
[13:32] <AlanBell> smartboyhw: I was kinda hoping that without X and most of the desktop it would be compileable for the pi
[13:32] <ogra_> AlanBell, wont
[13:32] <ali1234> AlanBell: compilable sure
[13:32] <Namidairo> smartboyhw: it was the guy thats running the porting hangout in an hour, so I don't think that's an issue
[13:32] <smartboyhw> Namidairo, LOL
[13:32] <ali1234> AlanBell: better learn pbuilder :P
[13:32]  * smartboyhw needs to watch the porting hangout
[13:32] <Namidairo> hour and a half
[13:32] <Namidairo> my bad
[13:32] <ogra_> AlanBell, the libc ABI isnt v6 compatible, there is no way to make it work without rebuilding the whole distro fo v6
[13:32] <Jbmild> still not prompt when trying to connect to network
[13:33] <Namidairo> i doubt the raspberry is armv6 though
[13:33] <mainerror> The Raspberry PI is v6
[13:33] <Namidairo> but i better look up the specs
[13:33] <ogra_> Namidairo, it is
[13:33] <mainerror> That's why there is no Ubuntu for the raspberry.
[13:33]  * Namidairo shudders
[13:33] <ogra_> right
[13:34] <AlanBell> ogra_: would enough of this gui run on the debian base of the pi though?
[13:34] <ogra_> no idea, you would have to rebuild the stuff i guess
[13:34] <Tassadar> why would you even want to run it on raspberry Oo
[13:34] <ali1234> AlanBell: if you can make ofono and qt5 work
[13:34] <AlanBell> and get a touchscreen I guess :)
[13:35] <popey> qt5 is on its way into debian
[13:35] <ogra_> AlanBell, though it might be hard to find a Pi with 1G of ram (which is our minimal spec)
[13:35] <ali1234> AlanBell: mer would be a much better base system, already ported to pi, and has stuff like what you need
[13:35] <Namidairo> its been a while since i even ran a phone with armv6
[13:35] <ali1234> AlanBell: plus it's developed by sae person as libhybris
[13:35] <smartboyhw> Anyone recall people talking about Motorola devices porting?
[13:35] <AlanBell> Tassadar: embedded stuff like a point of sale display perhaps
[13:35] <ogra_> use a pandaboard for that
[13:35] <ali1234> AlanBell: why would you want ubuntu phone ui for POS?
[13:35] <Namidairo> i was dabbling in porting to the tf201 earlier
[13:36]  * smartboyhw decides to work on Motorola XOOM
[13:36] <smartboyhw> Anybody working on that?
[13:36] <ali1234> AlanBell: mer/rpi already has all the QML stuff you want for that
[13:36] <AlanBell> ali1234: well I dunno really, I am just pondering possibilities
[13:36] <ogra_> ali1234, Qt5 ?
[13:36] <k1l> smartboyhw: xoom was on of the few older moto devices with open bootloader.
[13:36] <alexdg> i get this phablet-dev-bootstrap: command not found. what can i do?
[13:36] <k1l> smartboyhw: the other older device were all locked
[13:36] <ProGEEK> Run it on the CubieBoard
[13:37] <smartboyhw> k1l, good then:)
[13:37]  * Tassadar gives up, there is no point in trying to be in sync on a channel with 340 people)
[13:37] <kyconny> You know because I am like, hipster and all.
[13:37] <ali1234> ogra_: not 100% sure but probably. mer is very into QML and Qt, being based off meego
[13:37] <kyconny> I am installing the phone os from chrunchbang ;)
[13:37] <ProGEEK> that has 1gig ram
[13:37] <k1l> smartboyhw: the xoom was a nexus device iirc. so it had to be open :)
[13:37] <ProGEEK> armv7 device
[13:37] <smartboyhw> k1l, LOL
[13:37] <kyconny> we tried the RPI yet?
[13:37] <ogra_> ali1234, yup, i know, but i think ubuntu is currently more on the edge here
[13:37] <Namidairo> Tassadar: don't you have some Protoss to be micro-managing
[13:38] <ogra_> kyconny, wont woerk
[13:38] <mainerror> kyconny: Raspberry PI?
[13:38] <andril> my Xoom is ready :)
[13:38] <kyconny> yeah
[13:38] <Namidairo> my body, not so much.
[13:38] <Tassadar> Namidairo: just waiting for hearth of the swarm
[13:38] <mainerror> Yea, you're late to the party buddy. It's ARMv6 kyconny.
[13:38] <kyconny> dayum, just thought
[13:38] <kyconny> I'm stupid
[13:38] <alexdg> how can i sync the repo? i don't understand the guide
[13:39] <ppda> Anybody can help me ?  Trying to flash a nexus7 with ubuntu phone but it doesn't run...
[13:39] <Namidairo> if you dont understand how to repo init then i don't hold much hope for you porting devices
[13:39] <kyconny> ppda: "Doesn't run" doesn't exactly give us lots of information
[13:39] <Namidairo> justsaying
[13:39] <kyconny> ppda: what's your problem?
[13:39] <alexdg> but some help would be nice
[13:40] <ppda> The flashing process went right and I got the message 'Once completed the device should reboot into Ubuntu' but the screen stays black :-(
[13:41] <mainerror> I have to decide on my priorities now ... watch the IRC channel or read the porting documentation.
[13:41] <kyconny> ppda: reboot it?
[13:41] <mainerror> Decisions decisions decisions ...
[13:41] <alexdg> when i want to use phablet-dev-bootstrap -v and the res, this comes phablet-dev-bootstrap -v [device codenames] [target_directory]
[13:41] <ogra_> mainerror, multitask !
[13:41] <mainerror> heh
[13:42] <rsalveti> morning!
[13:42] <kyconny> Pushing /home/kyle/downloads/phablet-flash/95/quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip to /sdcard/autodeploy.zip
[13:42] <mainerror> ogra_: I'm afraid that in the end I'll try to support the a new device and try to port the IRC channel if I don't concentrate on one task at a time. :P
[13:42] <kyconny> THis may take a while
[13:42] <sergiusens> alexdg: there's a branch being merged, it's in the wiki right below the command you listed
[13:43] <kyconny> Does anyone want me to make  noob friendly installer?
[13:43] <mainerror> kyconny: More noob friendly than now? How!?
[13:43] <kyconny> mainerror: GUI
[13:43] <alexdg> how do i get this branch?
[13:43] <Namidairo> holy crap he had a snooze in the time it took me to repo sync, repartition and build
[13:44] <smartboyhw> Namidairo, of course:P
[13:44] <ogra_> mainerror, well, an IRC client is definitely missing ... you just need to rip out the OS in the end ;)
[13:44] <mainerror> kyconny: Mhmm, that doesn't sound bad.
[13:44] <mainerror> thehe
[13:44] <smartboyhw> I was really startled though that actually Ubuntu Touch uses Cyanogenmod :P
[13:44] <Namidairo> then again, that repo sync was really erally really really really slow
[13:44] <smartboyhw> Namidairo, yep
[13:44]  * smartboyhw remembers taking two HOURS to repo sync in Android main branch
[13:45] <mainerror> smartboyhw: Why that?
[13:45] <Namidairo> because it went at 80kb/s
[13:45] <smartboyhw> mainerror, I'm using wi-fi for that
[13:45] <smartboyhw> And the repo is actually slow
[13:45] <kyconny> I went full retard and installed ubuntu while on low battery.
[13:45] <kyconny> It worked.
[13:45] <mainerror> No no, I meant why you were startled because Ubuntu uses CyanogenMod as base.
[13:45] <smartboyhw> mainerror, I thought it would use pure Android
[13:46] <alexdg> i don't understand how to setup the build environment
[13:46] <mainerror> CyanogenMod is pretty pure. :)
[13:46]  * smartboyhw actually has built  Android source before
[13:46] <Namidairo> smartboyhw: i thought it would be native
[13:47] <ogra_> Namidairo, then the list of devices would be pretty small
[13:47] <smartboyhw> Namidairo, another option
[13:47] <Namidairo> indeed it would
[13:47] <mainerror> Namidairo: Thankfully it isn't. They'd have to go though the entire handset enablement process Android went though.
[13:47] <ogra_> native means you need the vendor to work with you
[13:47] <Namidairo> i know
[13:47] <ogra_> and give you drivers etc
[13:48] <mainerror> The idea is great, take something already good and make it even better. :)
[13:48] <ogra_> over time more of the android stuff will vanish ... abd remaining android stuff will be better integrated
[13:49] <ogra_> *and
[13:49] <alexdg> as i can see nobody helps me, i can stop to port
[13:49] <ogra_> alexdg, just wait for the ubuntuonair talk in ~1h
[13:49] <ogra_> alexdg, attend it and things should get clearer
[13:49] <Namidairo> repo init -u, sohard.
[13:50] <rsalveti> Namidairo: I got more than 500 parallel git clones at the server, so it's indeed slow
[13:50] <mainerror> ogra_: You plan to keep adb?
[13:50] <Namidairo> rsalveti: github.
[13:50] <ogra_> mainerror, that was a typ
[13:50] <ogra_> o
[13:50] <mainerror> I'm aware, I'm just wondering, since adb isn't bad.
[13:51] <Namidairo> i'd hate to see everyones bandwidth bills
[13:51] <smartboyhw> Namidairo, not mine at least:P
[13:51] <Namidairo> 500x16gb
[13:52] <mainerror> Me, flatrate.
[13:52] <mainerror> meh*
[13:52] <Namidairo> "unlimited"
[13:53] <smartboyhw> ogra_, phablet-dev-bootstrap -v [device codenames] [target_directory] device codenames = codename in the CM website?
[13:55] <smartboyhw> dpm, ^
[13:55] <alexdg> now i get this IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/home/alex/android/ubuntu/.repo/manifests/.git/HEAD'
[13:56] <smartboyhw> I can't even get the phablet-dev-bootstrap working (in the unreleased code)
[13:59] <mainerror> I see there the priority is. Reading the guide will allow me to further support people in this channel. To the documentation! :)
[13:59] <mainerror> s/there/where/
[14:00] <gianguido> hi chan
[14:00] <waa> Think I asked it before:
[14:00] <waa> $ qmlviewer
[14:00] <waa> qmlviewer: could not exec '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/bin/qmlviewer': No such file or directory
[14:01]  * smartboyhw really needs help
[14:01] <mainerror> waa: Have you checked if the file is actually there?
[14:01] <dank101> yes smartboy
[14:01] <smartboyhw> dank101, can't seem to get ./phablet-dev-bootstrap working (even in unreleased code)
[14:01] <netcurli> try using qmlscene instead of qmlviewer
[14:01] <waa> mainerror, no, its not there
[14:02] <dank101> it's phablet-flash -b
[14:02] <dank101> it bootstraps
[14:02] <alexdg> i can't init the repo
[14:02] <mainerror> waa: Mhmm, and the install process for the Ubuntu SDK (plus its dependencies) finished without any errors?
[14:03] <mainerror> Oh wait! I was reading qmlviewer as qmlscene for some reason ...
[14:04] <gianguido> is anyone trying to get ubuntu for phones on the sgs3?
[14:04] <mainerror> gianguido: There's a port already.
[14:04] <gianguido> mainerror, where?
[14:04] <alexdg> whats this shit error: revision refs/heads/master in manifests not found
[14:04] <dank101> for the CDMA models atleast
[14:04] <dank101> rootswiki
[14:05] <waa> mainerror, no error but a missing lib must be installed by hand I can't remember what was
[14:06] <mainerror> gianguido: Yea, what dank101 said. http://rootzwiki.com
[14:06] <mainerror> I kinda lost the URL ...
[14:06] <richey> "/ignore -channels #ubuntu-phone * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS"
[14:06] <dank101> it's on OMGUBUNTU
[14:06] <gianguido> I'm searching...
[14:06] <alexdg> please guys, which is the first repo i must init????!?!?!?
[14:06] <grissi> is cm 10.1 necessary or should it also work with cm 10?
[14:06] <gianguido> yeah, it's on omgbuntu
[14:08] <richey> quit
[14:08] <gianguido> aw, this build works only on verizon's gs3
[14:08] <NameX> ProGEEK / mainerror : solved i had just to wipe userdata and press every hard button when i was on the droid with red "!" ! how could i remove pin code on my sim ?
[14:08] <alexdg> PLEASEEEE
[14:09] <mainerror> NameX: That's in the settings when you are in Android.
[14:09] <pitthappens> does anyone know how to unlock the screen. I've been trying to just check it out for about 15 minutes and i feel stupid
[14:09] <mainerror> Well done by the way.
[14:09] <NameX> just uncheck "lock sim card" ?
[14:09] <legomaster181> pitthappens: I think you just slide from the left side of the screen
[14:09] <ogra_> alexdg, really, just wait for the ubuntuonair session
[14:10] <legomaster181> that's how it works for my nexus 7 at least
[14:10] <pitthappens> thank you
[14:10] <pitthappens> i have it on a 7
[14:10] <NameX> mainerror if i unlock it in android setting it will work with ubuntu ?
[14:10] <alexdg> whats ubuntuonair?
[14:10] <k1l> alexdg: there is a "how to port" introduction in one hour. you cant wait for that?
[14:10] <mainerror> NameX: I'm not sure to be honest, could be. Can't remember if that's saved to the SIM or not.
[14:11] <alexdg> sorry, i can wait
[14:11] <dank101> gianguido: it works on all Qualcomm S3's
[14:11] <legomaster181> pitthappens: you just slide from just outside the screen on the left in
[14:11] <NameX> mainerror : LoL !!!
[14:11] <ogra_> alexdg, http://developer.ubuntu.com/2013/02/taking-ubuntu-touch-to-new-levels/ see the bottom paragraph
[14:11] <gianguido> dank101, i see :-/
[14:11] <ogra_> alexdg, also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
[14:12] <mainerror> NameX: Yea, there are things I don't remember. ;)
[14:12] <gianguido> anyone knows if this port was built from scratch or they had simply copied the right files?
[14:12] <dank101> gianguido, is it a American s3
[14:12] <alexdg> yeah, iam using this guide, but i don't know which repo i schould sync
[14:12] <dank101> gianguido, they copied the files and programmed a little
[14:12] <gianguido> because now i have the /data/ubuntu folder, all the executables but no ubuntu starting at all
[14:12] <NameX> mainerror : thats the only way to unlock sim so i think its that no ?
[14:12] <mainerror> Hang on.
[14:13] <ogra_> gianguido, for the CM part its mostly just plain CM with some changes (kernel config etc) ... the ubuntu side is largely from scratch
[14:13] <smartboyhw> It looks like Motorola XOOM got quite a bit of likeness in the mailing list
[14:13] <ogra_> smartboyhw, go go go ! :)
[14:13] <gianguido> ogra_, from scratch means that they have used a different rootfs?
[14:13] <smartboyhw> ogra_, doing Syncing the code
[14:14] <mainerror> NameX: For me it's under "Settings" -> "Security" -> "Set up SIM card lock" and then a checkbox called "Lock SIM card"
[14:14] <ogra_> gianguido, well, the same you get with a deboostrap of an ubuntu arm rootfs, plus all the UI bits
[14:14] <NameX> mainerror yeah ok i hope it will work for ubuntu -_-
[14:14] <gianguido> ogra_, so it isn't a lot different from the zip provided by canonical
[14:15] <ogra_> right, the phablet zip shoudl conatin the userspace partas
[14:15] <ogra_> *parts
[14:15] <gianguido> ogra_, so i have the right userspace
[14:15] <mrgoodcat> is there a better up to date list of devices people are working on than the one at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices ?
[14:15] <mrgoodcat> hard to imagine the wingray is the only device
[14:15] <ogra_> yeas but it talks for example to surfaceflinger on the CM side for displaying
[14:15] <gianguido> i've modded the init.rc inside the kernel's ramdisk... dunno what to do to make this thing working :-/
[14:16] <AlanBell> mrgoodcat: that is the best list that there is, feel free to make it better if you know better
[14:16] <ogra_> mrgoodcat, tha site is brandnew, we need to spread the word about it a bit, it is supposed to be the central source of info
[14:16] <ogra_> i know there are some ports on xda developers already in progress
[14:16] <ogra_> which arent listed there yet
[14:17] <smartboyhw> ogra_, you need to tell the xda developers to do so
[14:17] <gianguido> ogra_, it seems to be an "easy" thing...
[14:17] <mainerror> Just sent a Tweet to PhantomGamers asking him to add himself to the Work in Progress list of the wiki page. :)
[14:17] <mainerror> Let's hope he'll do it.
[14:17] <k1l> to be honset, xda is full of ubuntu-phone/tablet talk and development :)
[14:17] <ogra_> gianguido, yeah, if CM runs on your device ubuntu shoudl too with minor changes
[14:18] <gianguido> ogra_, of course! my device it's an international sgs3... i've made changes but it boots directly android UI
[14:19] <Nikez> 48 MB builds o.o
[14:19] <ogra_> gianguido, well, you need to rebuild CM with the right changes for this, it wont work on a stock CM
[14:19] <mrgoodcat> i read the entire porting page. it seems pretty easy compared to some of the other work i've done.  If the stingray isn't done by monday i'll give it a sporting go
[14:19] <ogra_> mrgoodcat, why wait til monday ?
[14:19] <mrgoodcat> no time until then
[14:19] <pitthappens> can anyone figure out how to connect to a hidden wireless network with WPA2?
[14:19] <gianguido> ogra_, uhm so it's time to compile cm10.1 for the first time lol
[14:19] <mrgoodcat> i'd start now if i could
[14:19] <ogra_> there is a whole weekend inbetween !
[14:20] <ogra_> gianguido, i would base off the ubuntu code though
[14:20] <mrgoodcat> i'm very seriously thinking about working on it over the weekend. think my family would kill me though. i will be on vacation
[14:20] <ogra_> from http://phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb
[14:20] <gianguido> ogra_, good, there's a guide on the ubuntu's wiki right?
[14:20] <Nikez> ogra_: isnt alot still missing? :P
[14:20] <ogra_> gianguido, there is even a video session in ~30min
[14:21] <Vilsafur> still nothing new on Ubuntu Touch on Nexus S?
[14:21] <gianguido> ogra_, this is why i love ubuntu
[14:21] <grizmawe> pitthappens, there is no gui for it yet but the profiles are stored in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/<SID name>
[14:21] <ogra_> Nikez, yes, after the ubuntuonair session there will likely be more
[14:21] <mrgoodcat> i'm going to miss the beginning of that... i'll watch youtube later
[14:21] <Nikez> ogra_: Alrite. I do not want to update to > 10.04
[14:21] <grizmawe> pitthappens, try adding a new profile and see if it connects
[14:22] <ogra_> Nikez, well, 10.04 desktop is EOL in april IIRC
[14:22] <mrgoodcat> yea it is
[14:22] <ogra_> (or was it EOL already ... cant remember)
[14:22] <Nikez> urgh, :(
[14:22] <mrgoodcat> Nikez, why do you not want to update?
[14:22] <Nikez> I've got my dev-box set up
[14:22] <smartboyhw> ogra_, you're correct
[14:22] <pitthappens> grizmawe: i wish i knew how
[14:22] <Nikez> Do
[14:22] <Nikez> Don
[14:22] <Nikez> WTF, don't want to fuck anything up **
[14:22] <mainerror> Nikez: You should update, at least to 12.04 if you really need LTS versions.
[14:22] <gianguido> do i need >4gb ram to build cm?
[14:23] <mrgoodcat> gianguido, 4 should be fine
[14:23] <mrgoodcat> i've compiled cm9 on less
[14:23] <Nikez> dist-upgrade should suffice right?
[14:23] <Nikez> I don't want to set everything up again, I have 60GB + in android sources.
[14:23] <mainerror> From 10.04 right to 12.04? Haven't done anything like that myself.
[14:23] <gianguido> mrgoodcat, fantastic thanks
[14:24] <grizmawe> pitthappens, when you have sshed onto the phone and ubuntu_chroot you can then sudo vi /etc/NetworkManager/system-connection/<hidden sid name>
[14:24] <mrgoodcat> Nikez, i'd recommend a full reinstall
[14:24] <Nikez> Ah crap. /slitwrist.
[14:24] <mrgoodcat> its not that bad
[14:24] <pitthappens> grizmawe: so the old fashioned way lol, the problem with that is i don't have it connected to a network
[14:24] <pitthappens> :-)
[14:24] <grizmawe> pitthappens, connect to a SID that is not hidden to create an existing profile you can copy and modify
[14:24] <mainerror> Nikez: Back that stuff up.
[14:24] <pitthappens> and i'm at work so all i have is this
[14:24] <richey> Even with total reinstall, there's no reason that you need to dump your android sources.
[14:24] <grizmawe> pitthappens, visit a coffee shop ;P
[14:25] <Nikez> Our tree is a bit picky. Requires java 1.6.0.38
[14:25] <Guest56737> How long does it normally take to push the autodeploy.zip image to flash?
[14:25] <Nikez> I can't recall how I got it to install that version either.
[14:25] <dank101> 3 hours
[14:25] <gianguido> there are 15gb of download to do? o.O
[14:25] <Vilsafur> still nothing new on Ubuntu Touch on Nexus S?
[14:25] <smartboyhw> gianguido, yes
[14:25] <mainerror> Nikez: You can still use Java 1.6 you need that.
[14:26] <ogra_> Vilsafur, it doesnt have enough RAM
[14:26] <gianguido> smartboyhw, hoping that servers are speedy
[14:26] <Nikez> ~/android/phablet$ du -hs .
[14:26] <Nikez> 23G	.
[14:26] <smartboyhw> gianguido, and they simply aren't
[14:26] <gianguido> smartboyhw, cheering...
[14:27] <Nikez> But I've added proprietarys for pyramid and the kernel for msm8660 (HTC*s)
[14:27] <Nikez> I think It was around 17.3 GB or so
[14:27]  * darkdragon-001[A is now away - Reason : 
[14:27] <gianguido> i haven't all this space on my ssd...
[14:27] <Nikez> Make space :-]
[14:27] <gianguido> download and build on an external hd, speeedy!
[14:28] <mainerror> Nikez: In your case I would recommend a somewhat customize partition scheme. I'd put all those things on a separate partition which won't be touched on a fresh install.
[14:28] <JBmild> HI guys, I want to revert back to android i have the image I want to load and have extracted it
[14:29] <Vilsafur> It's tested? because I don't see any information about use of RAM.
[14:29] <Nikez> mainerror: Yeah, I suppose. I guess I have to re-install sooner or later.
[14:29] <JBmild> which option in the bootloader do I need to be in
[14:29] <gianguido> JBmild, device?
[14:30]  * darkdragon-001 is no longer away - Gone for 2 mins 45 secs
[14:30] <juicyjones> JBmild: flash your rom like you normally would, there should be no difference.
[14:30] <Vilsafur> ogra_ : It's tested? because I don't see any information about use of RAM.
[14:30] <mrgoodcat> Nikez, you don't run separate partitions? It is my favorite feature of any linux distro over windows. I have (/, /var, /home, /opt, /etc, /boot) all on separate partitions
[14:30] <ogra_> Vilsafur, minimal RAM reqs. are 1G currently
[14:31] <shane__> hi all, anyone know how to flash ubuntu through twrp?
[14:31] <gianguido> shane__, nope, use CMW
[14:31] <shane__> gianguido: where is the zip?
[14:31] <Vilsafur> ogra_ : where are you see that plz ?
[14:31] <legomaster181> shane__: there is a way, give me a second to find the tutorial
[14:31] <gianguido> shane__, you need to flash this recovery over fastboot
[14:32] <ogra_> Vilsafur, i dont, i just know it ... but there was a page with the specs somewhere ...
[14:32] <JBmild> it tells me waiting for device
[14:32] <Laney> I love the preloaded content
[14:32] <erkoolio> hey guys! one noobish glaxy nexus owner here trying to solve following problem:
[14:32] <mainerror> Vilsafur: If it comes from ogra_ you can rest assured it is right. :)
[14:32] <shane__> im attempting now through ubuntu desktop using the commands given in the install instructions
[14:32] <shane__> its dling the image currently
[14:32] <Nikez> mrgoodcat: Not really, I have to have Windows on it and I couldn't be arsed when I set up ubuntu
[14:33] <gianguido> to port ubuntu to my sgs3, i need to download firstly http://phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb?
[14:33] <erkoolio> when trying to download phablet tools etc terminal says unalble to locate package
[14:33] <mainerror> ogra_: So is your actual title "Release Manager"?
[14:33] <ogra_> mainerror, heh, no, just senior developer
[14:33] <mainerror> Ah, alright.
[14:33] <ogra_> mainerror, and i'm not even working on the phone project :)
[14:34] <legomaster181> gianguido: if you installed by ubuntu, the command to download the source is phablet-dev-bootstrap
[14:34]  * ogra_ is responsible for the neus7 desktop image and the surrounding optimization work
[14:34] <legomaster181> wow
[14:34] <legomaster181> good job ogra :3
[14:34] <ogra_> heh, thanks
[14:34]  * mainerror hugs ogra_ 
[14:34] <mainerror> It's that time again ... yea.
[14:35] <jamesawylie> So, the tf300...
[14:35] <Vilsafur> mainerror : I gives no word in doubt, it's just that I'm so bummed that I seek by all means to find a solution to the test on my Nexus S.
[14:35] <ogra_> note that the optimization isnt my work, i just integrate waht the others give me ... eveyone there deserves more hugs than me ;)
[14:35] <grissi> erkoolio same here the ppa is ppa:phablet-team/tools
[14:35] <gianguido> legomaster181, it says that my vendor isn't supported but i want to port ubuntu over my device lol
[14:35] <gianguido> ogra_, kudos :)
[14:35] <sidthegreatest> I'm wiping data, system, and cache then flashing the two zips in the correct order. During the second zip, TWRP crashes and reboots the device and I am stuck at black screen. I can get back into recovery just fine and reflash my android ROM but I am now having trouble restoring my data. During data restore, TWRP crashes again, just like during the ubuntu flashing. This data has been restored before so it is not corrupte
[14:35] <sidthegreatest> On the Nexus 10
[14:35] <mainerror> Vilsafur: I assume ogra_ refers to this table. http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone/operators-and-oems
[14:36] <bughead> Hi
[14:36] <mainerror> However, not that this table is probably for the final release!
[14:36] <ogra_> mainerror, !! thanks !!
[14:36] <legomaster181> gianguido: you'll have to pick a source to start off with, and having never ported anything before, I can't really help you :P
[14:36] <kknikolas> does anyone now if there will be support for cdma soon?
[14:36] <mainerror> s/not/note
[14:36] <shane__> has anyone gotten this to work on NEXUS 10?
[14:36] <legomaster181> shane__: it's working by default on the Nexus 10
[14:36] <gianguido> shane__, there is an official image
[14:37] <ogra_> Vilsafur, the simple fact is that the current port will not work in 512M
[14:37] <shane__> i installed ubuntu on a vm so I could run the commands
[14:37] <sidthegreatest> I am having problems with the Nexus 10 image.
[14:37] <shane__> should that ll work just fine then?
[14:37] <dank101> no
[14:37] <erkoolio> grissi what do you mean?
[14:37] <Prasanna> Hi Guys
[14:37] <mrknister> hi
[14:37] <Vilsafur> mainerror : Yes but it's write Entry Level -> 512MB - 1Go
[14:37] <shane__> dank101: what do you mean?
[14:37] <Prasanna> I need to know that..  Can i install it on my Sony Xperia Sola ?
[14:38] <dank101> at LEAST use a live USB/CD
[14:38] <dank101> NO
[14:38] <mainerror> Vilsafur: 15:35 <mainerror> However, note that this table is probably for the final release!
[14:38] <ogra_> shane__, as long as USB works in your VM it shoudl work fine
[14:38] <gianguido> Prasanna, in a near future
[14:38] <legomaster181> shane__ I don't see why not, I didn't install that way though, so I couldn't tell you.  As long as the VM can see your device
[14:38] <dank101> not yet
[14:38] <mrknister> can someone help me out. I get the following error when trying to pus ubuntu over to my nexus 7: adbd cannot run as root in production builds
[14:38] <shane__> legomaster181: i was able to unlock my 10 and reboot to fastboot with the vm so....
[14:38] <Prasanna> so if i instal this image can i get any problem ?
[14:39] <legomaster181> then it should work fine shane__ :D
[14:39] <legomaster181> good luck
[14:39] <grizmawe> Vilsafur, Also a lot of optimisation will need to be done to get it into 512M - this is first stage build so not ready yet
[14:39] <mainerror> Vilsafur: Here's an idea. Just keep an eye on the "Work in Progress" table on this page. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices#Work_in_progress
[14:39] <grissi> erkoolio you need that ppa for installing phablet-tools
[14:39] <darkdragon-001> is SIP integration into the phone app already planned?
[14:39] <ogra_> shane__, right, as long as fastboot can talk to your device a VM shoudl be good
[14:39] <shane__> legomaster181: are there 2 files that need to be downloaded and installed?
[14:39] <mainerror> If a device with 512MB gets a port you're in luck.
[14:39] <erkoolio> grissi yea, did that already.
[14:39] <legomaster181> shane__ Are you going to install over ubuntu?
[14:39] <erkoolio> still unable to locate package..
[14:40] <shane__> legomaster181: you mean using ubuntu desktop to do the install?
[14:40] <legomaster181> yeah, just are you using ubuntu (in the vm of course) to install?
[14:40] <Vilsafur> mainerror : that's I do :)
[14:40] <grissi> erkoolio and after apt-get update it still not works? because on one page there is a wrong ppa
[14:40] <shane__> yes
[14:40] <bughead> As a complete newbie will I be able to port Ubuntu phone to galaxy note just with the guide? Is it dangerous?
[14:40] <shane__> legomaster181:  i ran the command "phablet-flash -b"
[14:41] <gianguido> bughead, no
[14:41] <legomaster181> that's what you needed
[14:41] <shane__> legomaster181: after unlocking and rooting the device
[14:41] <grizmawe> darkdragon-001, they havent even got a clock yet :P but feel free - source is available and I know there is a javascript sip stack so should be doable without having to go c++ route
[14:41] <legomaster181> now there's a problem?
[14:41] <gianguido> bughead, it's really dangerous
[14:41] <legomaster181> or it's running fine :3
[14:41] <shane__> legomaster181: no it is downloading the images/files
[14:41] <erkoolio> grissi yea,  the ppa that i used is the same that you suggested but after that it all goes to toilet
[14:41] <Vilsafur> grizmawe, ogra_ and mainerror : thanks for all information
[14:41] <bughead> @gianguido no to what?
[14:41] <legomaster181> k, that's good, now you just wait :3
[14:41] <erkoolio> update command doesnt work properly either
[14:41] <shane__> legomaster181: just making sure it is supposed to require 2 files, the second one seems much larger than the first
[14:42] <legomaster181> I heard it takes a very long time too, so prepare to wait :P
[14:42] <mainerror> bughead: There only two requirements (actually three). The device must have an unlockable bootloader, it should be >512MB (1GB is better) and it should not be ARMv6 based
[14:42] <legomaster181> it should shane__
[14:42] <bughead> Ah Ok  :-(
[14:42] <shane__> legomaster181: great
[14:42] <gianguido> bughead, if you're a newbie don't even think about doing a porting
[14:42] <grissi> erkoolio, strange
[14:42] <shane__> legomaster181: well the second file is nearly 60% dled, I will keep everyone posted
[14:42] <darkdragon-001> grizmawe: is phone an own package or is it somewhere in the core? where can I have a look at the code?
[14:42] <Nikez> the last file is a ***** to download.
[14:43] <shane__> Nikez: yeah, so far about 5 minutes, just now at 60%
[14:43] <kknikolas> Nikez: believe me yesterday it was harder
[14:43] <shane__> kknikolas: i bet
[14:43] <Nikez> kknikolas: I downloaded it yesterday.
[14:43] <erkoolio> grissi, yea it doest fetch those packages form laucnhpad,net/phablet-team....
[14:43] <Nikez> If you're talking bout sources
[14:43] <mzanetti_> pmcgowan: yep. its fine. can't reproduce the hang any more
[14:43] <Nikez> that is.
[14:43] <kknikolas> Nikez: me 2. one of the first
[14:43] <bughead> I hope it will be ported soon and an emulator will be available. Want to start developing apps  :-)
[14:43] <shane__> even xda-dev was bogging up on me yesterday
[14:43] <grizmawe> darkdragon-001, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-touch-preview - it will be the phone-app sub project I imagine
[14:44] <Nikez> hardware/qcom/audio-legacy/msm8660/AudioPolicyManager.cpp:888:10: error: 'AUDIO_SOURCE_FM_RX' was not declared in this scope
[14:44] <Nikez>  < WHY U
[14:44] <mainerror> Oh yea, the main requirement is that CyanogenMod supports that device. :)
[14:44] <matt779> hello all
[14:44] <erkoolio> grissi, the error is 404 not found (what  a classic)
[14:45] <shane__> now i didnt make a nandroid, im assuming I can get back into recovery and flash a rom to revert back to android?
[14:45] <matt779> how's Ubuntu running on n4
[14:45] <grissi> erkoolio i have no clue for me it works
[14:45] <shane__> 75%
[14:46] <legomaster181> shane__, are you hoping to keep anything on your device?
[14:46] <legomaster181> just checking :3
[14:46] <smartboyhw> sha, you mean for the "Fetching projects" part?
[14:46] <smartboyhw> shane__, ^
[14:46] <rreidsmith> when i run the phablet command nothing happens, my tablet does not reboot, it's listed in adb devices
[14:46] <shane__> legomaster181: no, i have become a pro at restoring over the years
[14:46] <grizmawe> shane__, yes you can just flash andoid back on again
[14:46] <erkoolio> grissi np, i dont get it either. gonna serach if someone is having the same problem
[14:46] <shane__> ok, thank you
[14:46] <erkoolio> grissi, thanks anyway
[14:46] <gianguido> trying the old porting method between two device: copy and paste lol
[14:47] <legomaster181> k, because installing ubuntu touch overwrites pretty mcuh everything :3  You'll have to flash new images if you want to get android back
[14:47] <legomaster181> eg by a factory image
[14:47] <shane__> legomaster181: does it delete images on sd card?
[14:48] <matt779> is the install process listed on the Site assume your on latest version of ubuntu
[14:48] <legomaster181> I'm not sure, but you'd better ask someone quick.  I installed using MultiRom, so nothing was overwritten
[14:48] <shane__> legomaster181: how will i be able to put images back on sd in ubuntu if so
[14:48] <w00tc0d3> DAMN
[14:48] <legomaster181> in order to reflash android you'll have to download a factory image from google and install it from there.  I believe there are instructions somewhere, give me a second...
[14:48] <shane__> legomaster181: does ubunut install its own recovery?
[14:49] <dank101> Use multiROM
[14:49] <w00tc0d3> Why deh fuck do you need Ubuntu to build Ubuntu Phone?!?!!?!?
[14:49] <dank101> it's the best option
[14:49] <Jbmild> Hi guys can you please help me to return to stock
[14:49] <shane__> dank101: what is multirom?
[14:49] <legomaster181> Maybe, like I said I didn't install it the traditional way
[14:49] <dank101> it's a dualboot system
[14:49] <dank101> for nexus 7
[14:49] <w00tc0d3> gonna be a chroot...
[14:49] <legomaster181> but the instructions from ubuntu to reflash android are here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install#Restoring_Android
[14:49] <dank101> it's on xda
[14:49] <shane__> 98%...
[14:49] <shane__> too late now
[14:49] <shane__> i think i will be fine
[14:49] <smartboyhw> shane__, you mean for "Fetching projects" ?
[14:49] <legomaster181> well, here's hoping
[14:49] <shane__> ^^^^ famous last words
[14:50] <legomaster181> Truth :3
[14:50]  * smartboyhw really hates the slow download speed
[14:50] <shane__> what is fetching projects?
[14:50] <smartboyhw> shane__, what are you doing now anyway?:)
[14:50] <Jbmild> I've been there and it ends me in a <waiting for device> loop
[14:50] <legomaster181> Unfortunantly, I've got to go, might not be on for a long time.
[14:50] <legomaster181> Best of luck shane__
[14:50] <shane__> im installing ubuntu touch on n10
[14:50] <smartboyhw> Ah
[14:50] <smartboyhw> Add oil then
[14:50] <shane__> lol
[14:51] <mikedawg> Hello all.  I saw that the galaxy nexus toro version is being added.  Since the gsm is already running ubuntu how much longer will it be?  Is there a page to go to, to see when it is finished?
[14:51] <shane__> hmm...
[14:52] <shane__> i have finished dling the images but it has stopped, and nothing happened
[14:53] <smartboyhw> shane01, not good
[14:53] <darkdragon-001> grizmawe: how can I suggest features for those apps?
[14:54] <dank101> not good
[14:54] <gianguido> zipping this frankenport
[14:54] <dank101> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOvGullZwcw&feature=plcp
[14:55] <shane__> smartboyhw: i do not get it
[14:55] <dank101> crack out yo droids
[14:55] <smartboyhw> ogra_, any "expected download time" available for the porting script download?
[14:55] <dank101> time to make dem portz
[14:55] <smartboyhw> shane__: Why? Give us a screenshot?
[14:55] <Jbmild> So my question is what mode do I need ot be in order to flash an image?
[14:55] <shane__> smartboyhw: i closed the terminal ran the command again and after sever lines it says the file is already retrieved; nothing to do
[14:55] <shane__> smartboyhw: got skype?
[14:56] <smartboyhw> shane__, first one: Really weird.... second one: no
[14:56] <rreidsmith> shane__: is this on a nexus 7?
[14:56] <shane__> 10
[14:56] <grizmawe> darkdragon-001, not sure. Could always log a bug and mark it as a feature request.
[14:56] <shane__> is there a way to flash the image in recovery?
[14:56] <rreidsmith> when i run the phablet command on my sevev nothing happens either...no reboot
[14:56] <gianguido> error 7, wat
[14:57] <shane__> maybe put tablet in fastboot mode and try again?
[14:57] <smartboyhw> shane__, try it
[14:57] <shane__> k
[14:57] <grizmawe> darkdragon-001, if you log a bug then assign the ubuntu-touch-preview tag
[14:57] <peter____> if wishes were pennies.. this rom has no way to install applications?
[14:57] <darkdragon-001> grizmawe: I can create a bug directly for ubuntu-touch-preview - not possible to create one for any sub-project...
[14:58] <darkdragon-001> grizmawe: https://launchpad.net/phone-app
[14:58] <shane__> no, terminal gives me an error that device needs to be in adb
[14:59] <shane__> smartboyhw: i went into recovery and now autodeploy.zip is on my sd card
[15:00] <rreidsmith> yep i had the zip on my sdcard too
[15:00] <grizmawe> darkdragon-001, you should log it against ubuntu itself as there is no separate area yet. see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Contribute (how to report bugs section)
[15:00] <Ursinha> grizmawe, for now you can create a bug in the ubuntu project and add the tag
[15:00] <shane__> smartboyhw: i tried to flash but it failed
[15:00] <Ursinha> it's enough to find it
[15:00] <cCirclEe> hey
[15:00] <smartboyhw> shane__: Have you enabled USB debugging in device
[15:00] <smartboyhw> ?
[15:00] <rreidsmith> shane__: is your nexus 10 stock or on custom ROM? I'm on a custom ROM.
[15:01] <grizmawe> Ursinha, yep - was just trying to find the link in the touch wiki for darkdragon-001
[15:01] <shane__> custom, and yes
[15:01] <zzarr> is there a way to install ubuntu-phone in a Motorola Droid 4? (xt894)
[15:01] <smartboyhw> And now are failing at phablet-flash
[15:01] <ogra_> zzarr, after someone ported it
[15:01] <gianguido> zzarr, no, and i don't think there will be one
[15:01] <rreidsmith> So does this ubuntu prefer to flash from stock??
[15:01] <rreidsmith> anyone?
[15:01] <dank101> THE PORT-A-THON IS STARTING
[15:01] <cCirclEe> can someone say me, if someone is porting this fw onto htc one x??????
[15:01] <smartboyhw> rreidsmith, well es
[15:01] <dank101> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOvGullZwcw&feature=plcp
[15:02] <zzarr> gianguido: okey, too bad (for me)
[15:02] <gianguido> booting the frankenubby
[15:02] <shane01> I think its early days yet CirclEr
[15:02] <zzarr> bye
[15:02] <shane__> smartboyhw: it just hangs
[15:02] <ogra_> gianguido, why would there be none ?
[15:02] <rsalveti> http://ubuntuonair.com/
[15:02] <smartboyhw> shane__, uh
[15:02] <rsalveti> going LIVE now
[15:02]  * darkdragon-001[A is now away - Reason : 
[15:02] <gianguido> ogra_, there's no unlockable bootloader
[15:02] <grizmawe> ubuntuonair hangout is starting
[15:02] <rsalveti> Ubuntu Development Hangout with Ricardo Salveti and Sergio Schvezov
[15:03] <cCirclEe> thx shane01
[15:03] <shane__> smartboyhw: now its re downloading the images
[15:03] <k1l> !away | darkdragon-001[A
[15:03] <smartboyhw> shane01, OK
[15:03] <ogra_> *************** come over to http://ubuntuonair.com/ and #ubuntu-on-air, porting session starts NOW ***************
[15:03] <rymate1234> WT
[15:03] <smartboyhw> ogra_, :)
[15:03] <rymate1234> Wat
[15:03] <gianguido> surfaceflinger segfaults
[15:03] <gianguido> LOAL
[15:04] <shane01> See the power draining is still a big issue.
[15:06] <alm25> hi. Who knows whether it is possible to change the language input?
[15:06] <grizmawe> darkdragon-001[A, If you want to work on the core apps (phone-app etc) they have put up a new wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps/DevelopmentGuide
[15:06] <alm25> on ubntu phone or only english&
[15:07] <gianguido> http://pastebin.com/MqyJDxc4 surfaceflinger segfault
[15:07] <tsdgeos> alm25: english only
[15:07] <nexianer> hey there
[15:07] <alm25> thx
[15:08] <nexianer> got a question: does the recovery stay on device?
[15:08] <rreidsmith> shane__: i was trying to get this fixed last night to no avail. apparently no one else has had this happen?
[15:08] <rayzer> hello everyone, where does one go to report bugs in ubuntu touch developer preview for nexus 7?
[15:09] <nexianer> does the recovery stay on my nexus 4?
[15:09] <rayzer> nexianer-- i was able to keep TWRP on nexus 7
[15:10] <sammojohn> yeah TWRP stayed on my device as well
[15:10] <nexianer> nice. then i will go and flash :P
[15:10] <nexianer> oh. still one question:
[15:11] <grizmawe> rayzer, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Contribute (How to report bugs section). Basically log bug against ubuntu but assign ubuntu-touch-preview tag
[15:11] <nexianer> to go back to android. does it work just flashing the rom image in TWRP or do i have to do it with the tool?
[15:11] <gianguido> sincerely, i don't know why surfaceflinger segfaults...
[15:11] <rayzer> grizmawe, is that for bugs in the system apps like web browser too?
[15:12] <gianguido> italian blogs that suggest to flash verizon's ubuntu preview on international models...
[15:13] <sammojohn> @nexianer Even though I havent not yet tested it, i believe you ought to be able to just flash the ROM image in TWRP and it has to work
[15:13] <sammojohn> havent*
[15:13] <smartboyhw> QUESTION: Will Ubuntu for Android still be a project to work on?
[15:13] <nexianer> is ubuntuphone useable in daily task or should i wait a few weeks?
[15:14] <gianguido> wait a few weeks
[15:14] <gianguido> it's a *preview*
[15:14] <pmcgowan> smartboyhw: ubuntu for android is still a separate effort
[15:14] <nexianer> thx guys. helped me a lot :P
[15:14] <sammojohn> @nexianer it is and it is not depending on what you do. You can still place phones calls and send texts....Data / MMS and such dont work
[15:14] <sammojohn> Remember its a developers image
[15:14] <sammojohn> Lots need to be fixed
[15:15] <nexianer> :( then i will wait
[15:15] <nexianer> bye guys
[15:15] <gianguido> uh, nexus 7 is coming at home!
[15:16] <sammojohn> So has anyone tested on other devices other than the Nexus family?
[15:16] <gianguido> sammojohn, i'm trying to port over i9300
[15:16] <blackout24> there is a port for the verizon s3 already
[15:16] <gianguido> but there's already a functional port for the verizion s3
[15:16] <lefty_> When do you guys think it could be a daily driver on Verizon G-Nexus?
[15:16] <blackout24> in a year
[15:16] <blackout24> maybe
[15:16]  * smartboyhw is trying to port for Motorola XOOM Wifi
[15:17] <lefty_> blackout24: Damn
[15:17] <sammojohn> Awesome, trying to get it ported on the TF300t
[15:17] <Lloir> i've almost got it ported for the X+
[15:17] <gianguido> what methods are you using? complete build or copy-paste?
[15:17] <Lloir> complete build
[15:18] <Lloir> just need to figure out why it's not booting properly
[15:18] <gianguido> Lloir, surfaceflinger segfaluts?
[15:19] <Pip> So have you tried the preview image?
[15:20] <archme> does not work on S3 yet?
[15:20] <gianguido> archme, not on the international variant
[15:20] <Pip> I don't know, maybe not yet
[15:20] <gianguido> only verizon
[15:20] <sammojohn> Pip should work on the US SIII
[15:20] <shane01> No Archme
[15:20] <sammojohn> friend of mine was able to port it
[15:20] <Pip> It works on Samsung Galaxy Nexus and Google Nexus 4, right?
[15:20] <sammojohn> Yes
[15:20] <shane01> yes pip
[15:20] <Pip> Have you tried it?
[15:21] <archme> hrm..
[15:21] <gianguido> sammojohn, on what device?
[15:21] <shane01> Yes I have a Gnex
[15:21] <Pip> I have to know the real user experience of it
[15:21] <Pip> *want to
[15:22] <shane01> Its userable as a phone and to send text message, to take pictures and do basic stuff on the internet via WiFi only not mobile data, and no MMS
[15:22] <sammojohn> @gianguido VZW SIII
[15:22] <shane01> watch mp4 movies too
[15:24] <Lloir> dont think so gianguido
[15:24] <Lloir> not getting good logcat outputs
[15:24] <shane01> its developer version 1, pre alpha aplha stage, not ideal for commercial use yet.  If you need a functioning phone with all the addon and apps, come back in October
[15:25] <Lloir> gianguido, do you get a boot animation at all?
[15:25] <NameX> contact app is rly bad ... cant add contact from SMS is that normal ?
[15:25] <shane01> No its blank for now
[15:25] <gianguido> Lloir, nope, only serviceblabla segfault
[15:25] <Lloir> i added a bootani to check if display worked
[15:25] <shane01> its a demo stage now NameX
[15:25] <gianguido> i can't understand why it segfaults
[15:25] <Lloir> your device has CM10.1 yea?
[15:25] <Lloir> 4.2.1
[15:25] <shane01> its not as fluid as the release product will be
[15:26] <moocow1452> Anyone working on EVO, or would it be just me?
[15:26] <NameX> shane01 you think its for that ? just to develop some app ? shane01
[15:26] <grizmawe> found new bug - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1131794
[15:26] <gianguido> Lloir, of course, it's a galaxy s 3
[15:26] <Lloir> hmm
[15:26] <omac> error while fetching mako sources:  http://pastebin.com/LQDKavk8
[15:26] <gianguido> i haven't compiled it
[15:26] <Lloir> you tried pushing the one compiled with your S3 build
[15:26] <shane01> well yes its the Developer release. NameX
[15:26] <gianguido> a copy-paste between verizon's sgs3 version
[15:27] <NameX> okey ;)
[15:27] <shane01> NameX: check out this page, it has developer all over it https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[15:28] <gianguido> Lloir, i can't understand how to compile one
[15:28] <Lloir> :/
[15:28] <NameX> ok i dont care i m here to dev some app but i thought default application was finished ;)
[15:28] <Lloir> then i wouldn't bother doing a copy pasta build
[15:28] <Lloir> if you got no idea how to compile it
[15:28] <shane01> No, no, still borked a little
[15:29] <shane01> they are work in progress
[15:29] <grizmawe> NameX, nope - most are just place holders for now. Still very early...
[15:29] <NameX> ok :)
[15:29] <gianguido> Lloir, i wanna compile but by now i cannot understand the porting guide...
[15:29] <NameX> is there something to do to help with those apps ?
[15:29] <shane01> it kind of answers the question why no one had hands on at CES.
[15:30] <shane01> very good sales techniques by Canonical. I think its paid off
[15:32] <grizmawe> NameX, So far calling (making and receiving), SMS, Camera, video player, notepad, wifi, web browser - all work rest is to be done (all of the working things will obviously be further worked on also)
[15:32] <NameX> grizmawe do you know how is construct the csv for contact in ubuntu ? i think i ll do an app to translate google.csv to this
[15:32] <grizmawe> NameX, not looked at that yet. On my things to investigate over the weekend
[15:33] <NameX> ok i will too ;)
[15:34] <grizmawe> NameX, my first task will be to get a clock app. I need alarms in the morning :P
[15:35] <NameX> hooo i didnt think about that !!
[15:35] <boiko> NameX: you can use the Qt Versit module to import contacts
[15:35] <NameX> share it to me when you ll get one :D pllsssss
[15:35] <NameX> boiko : from google contacts ?
[15:35] <boiko> NameX: and QtContacts to save the contacts, just use the "folks" manager engine
[15:36] <boiko> NameX: from a vCard file
[15:36] <NameX> ho google give a vcard export
[15:37] <NameX> so how can i get qtversit on my ubuntu phone ?
[15:37] <grizmawe> NameX, ill upload it somewhere. still thinking about how to operate alarms when the phone is asleep. will likely need a service but not seen any API to support this yet... may have to crack open my rusty c++ fingers...
[15:37] <boiko_lunch> NameX: I might still have some code around for that (I was using to test some stuff), after lunch I'll try to find it
[15:37] <jbooth> Anyone available with advice about pulseaudio on the phone? I'm trying to use pacmd to load PA modules but getting no love. I see PA running on the phone...
[15:38] <NameX> boiko_luch i have got a vcard but need to import in ubuntu now
[15:39] <zeerroo> hi all
[15:40] <zeerroo> please answer
[15:41] <grizmawe> zeerroo, if you have a question then just ask it - if we can help then we will
[15:42] <zeerroo> how much wait new alpha beta and etc version?
[15:42] <zeerroo> sorry i bad speak english
[15:42] <mhall119> zeerroo: no real timeline yet
[15:42] <grizmawe> zeerroo, unknown - when canonical say it is done :P
[15:43] <mhall119> it should be fully integrated into Ubuntu by 13.10, and ready for everybody to use by 14.04. those are our current goals
[15:43] <zeerroo> =) ok thank you
[15:44] <zeerroo> grizmawe PIN don't worked?
[15:45] <zeerroo> i installed Ubuntu phone OS and calling dont worked
[15:45] <shane__> im having issues with getting my nexus 10 over to touch ubuntu, i installed ubuntu on a vm and unlocked my device with ubuntu desktop and rooted and everything adb commands are working with the device.  when running the command phablet-flash -b it dled all files and rebooted device, it passed the google screen but hung at a black screen for about 10 minutes now, any ideas?
[15:45] <python2121> just want to say congrats to the Ubuntu team on this, it looks very polished on a nexus 4
[15:46] <rayzer> How does one go about transfering a file to the device?  Windows can't mount it and ADB seems confused... (nexus 7)
[15:46] <grissi> zeerroo currently not implemented deactivate the pin of your sim card from another device and it should work
[15:46] <shane__> any ideas, anyone???
[15:46] <pmcgowan> rayzer: adb push
[15:46] <shane__> im having issues with getting my nexus 10 over to touch ubuntu, i installed ubuntu on a vm and unlocked my device with ubuntu desktop and rooted and everything adb commands are working with the device.  when running the command phablet-flash -b it dled all files and rebooted device, it passed the google screen but hung at a black screen for about 10 minutes now, any ideas?
[15:47] <rayzer> adb push seems confused, it lists the device, but can't seem to do much more than reboot it
[15:47] <pmcgowan> shane__: can you check the space on your sd card? if it was near full install may have failed
[15:47] <zeerroo> thank you!!
[15:47] <shane__> pmcgowan: it was completely wiped before i tried this
[15:48] <pmcgowan> shane__: you can adb into it?
[15:48] <shane__> pmcgowan: yes
[15:48] <pmcgowan> rayzer: for example adb push /data/ubuntu should work
[15:48] <pmcgowan> need to do an adb root and adb remount first
[15:48] <Cyanogen101> Hi
[15:49] <Cyanogen101> stuck with phablet-dev-bootstrap -v i9100 ~
[15:49] <pmcgowan> shane__: if you get the contents of adb logcat we can take a look
[15:49] <shane__> pmcgowan: wait, i faied to mention...i went into recovery after 15 minutes or so and reflashed a custom rom so I could attempt this all over again
[15:49] <Ursinha> Cyanogen101, what's the error?
[15:49] <Cyanogen101> i just wanna get this on my Samsung S 2? how i do that?
[15:50] <gianguido> how much time gets nexus 7 to extract the rootfs in the device?
[15:50] <Cyanogen101> phablet-dev-bootstrap -v samsung_galaxys2 ~ dev-bootstrap:Vendor device samsung_galaxys2 not supported
[15:50] <shane__> pmcgowan: right now I am waiting for the zips to be pushed (again) so that the device resets
[15:50] <Cyanogen101> dev-bootstrap:Vendor device samsung_galaxys2 not supported
[15:50] <pmcgowan> shane__: ok
[15:51] <lepetitclement> hey there!
[15:51] <Cyanogen101> So?
[15:51] <OverSu> HEllo again ;)
[15:51] <lepetitclement> Are there any news on x86 devices? I have the Razr I and I would love to put Ubuntu Phone OS on it
[15:51] <Ursinha> Cyanogen101, I submitted a patch to fix that, should be on any time, but the change is described here, you can just apply the patch locally: http://bit.ly/XpQghS
[15:51] <OverSu> Hey sergiusens , I'm back :D
[15:51] <ali1234> Ursinha: yesterday i did "phablet-dev-bootstrat -v grouper" - today i want to build for different device and the guide says to bootstrap with the device codename. how di i fix my repo?
[15:51] <pmcgowan> Cyanogen101: its not one of the supported devices, the porting guide is available to help
[15:51] <OverSu> x)
[15:51] <gianguido> Cyanogen101, port it, by now there aren't any ports
[15:51] <gianguido> Hi Cimi!
[15:51] <Cimi> ciao gianguido
[15:52] <Cyanogen101> how to port it?
[15:52] <shane__> pmcgowan: this time it rebooted and desktop asked me for password to continue
[15:52] <gianguido> ciao :D
[15:52] <pmcgowan> good
[15:52] <OverSu> Some news about a port on Nexus 7 32GB 3G ? :)
[15:52] <Ursinha> ali1234, I submitted a patch to fix that, should be on any time, but the change is described here, you can just apply the patch locally: http://bit.ly/XpQghS
[15:52] <Ursinha> :)
[15:52] <ali1234> Ursinha: that does not answer my question
[15:52] <shane__> pmcgowan: i have the android man and the progress bar which is very different
[15:52] <Cyanogen101> so how i port it to Samsung S 2?
[15:53] <shane__> pmcgowan: nearly half finished
[15:53] <ali1234> Ursinha: nothing is broken, i already bootstrapped
[15:53] <gianguido> Cyanogen101, are you a programmer?
[15:53] <Cyanogen101> nopey
[15:53] <shane__> pmcgowan: almost done
[15:53] <Ursinha> ali1234, so what's the problem? how is it broken for you to fix it? :)
[15:53] <ali1234> Ursinha: i bootstrapped for grouper
[15:53] <Cyanogen101> i thought the guide was to port it?
[15:53] <ali1234> Ursinha: i want to build for galaxysmtd
[15:53] <shane__> pmcgowan: rebooting......
[15:54] <sergiusens> OverSu: hey
[15:54] <shane__> pmcgowan: google screen
[15:54] <ali1234> Ursinha: how do i modify repo?
[15:54] <pmcgowan> Cyanogen101: you need knowledge of the kernel and android lower layers
[15:54] <shane__> pmcgowan: PROFIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[15:54] <Ursinha> ali1234, so you have to follow the porting guide and run repo sync again once things for this device are set up
[15:54] <Cyanogen101> WHAT
[15:54] <pmcgowan> shane__: great
[15:54] <Ursinha> then you'll have the bits you need in place
[15:54] <Cyanogen101> i thought it would be easy
[15:54] <OverSu> sergiusens: Some news, or not ? x)
[15:54] <pmcgowan> Cyanogen101: someone will get it working, just wait and see
[15:54] <ali1234> Ursinha: so it does not actually matter what you put for vendor argument when running bootstrap?
[15:54] <OverSu> sergiusens: I had read the Release Note, but...:/
[15:54] <Cyanogen101> WTF, if it runs on top of CyanogenMod it should be easy.........
[15:54] <ali1234> Ursinha: in which case, why the comments on your patch?
[15:54] <Ursinha> ali1234, it downloads specific stuff, afaik
[15:55] <Ursinha> ali1234, because phablet-dev-bootstrap had the vendor argument as required, so you weren't able to run it if the device isn't supported yet
[15:55] <Cyanogen101> http://www.xda-developers.com/android/porting-ubuntu-touch-is-as-simple-as-building-cm/
[15:55] <pmcgowan> OverSu: I think someone got that working, thats talapia?
[15:55] <Cyanogen101> http://www.xda-developers.com/android/porting-ubuntu-touch-is-as-simple-as-building-cm/
[15:55] <gianguido> Cyanogen101, exact, if you can build the cm, you can port ubuntu
[15:55] <rayzer> Ok, so I tried adb push again (move file windows --> phablet), double checking paths and such, and it seems to be frozen... no sign of activity, but I'm waiting.
[15:56] <pmcgowan> rayzer: what are you trying to do?
[15:56] <rayzer> move a file on to the device
[15:56] <ali1234> Ursinha: ok
[15:56] <pmcgowan> ok
[15:56] <OverSu> pmcgowan: Yes :)
[15:56] <sergiusens> OverSu: so can we rehash on what we were doing? :-)
[15:56] <digitalfiz> hey guys im stuck on this part of flashing my nexus 10
[15:56] <OverSu> sergiusens: Oo' ? What do you mean ? x)
[15:56] <digitalfiz> Save the version of the current image on the device, if on Android, to use as a reference to revert back to. The version can be found by going to Settings > About Phone > Build Number.
[15:57] <digitalfiz> how do i do that?
[15:57] <digitalfiz> i mean i would normally do a nandoid but my device is only unlocked not rooted
[15:57] <ricmm> win 6
[15:58] <benice> i wanted to flash my nexus device to Ubuntu.. any steps is apreciated
[15:58] <Ursinha> ricmm, irssi? :)
[15:58] <ali1234> Ursinha: in the porting guide, it says to edit .repo/manifest.xml but later on it shows a diff against .repo/manifests/default.xml - what is the reason for this difference? which one do i actually edit?
[15:58] <Cyanogen101> is anyone here gonna get the S2 working? if so, once done i would be able to easily do nightly builds right?
[15:59] <Ursinha> ali1234, well, I don't know :) I edited .repo/manifest.xml, porting guide might need fixing?
[15:59] <Cyanogen101> its ment to be as easy as building CM?
[15:59] <ali1234> Ursinha: when i edited .repo/manifest.xml and then ran repo sync it said "error: .repo/manifests/: contains uncommitted changes"
[15:59] <ali1234> but .repo/manifest.xml is not versioned
[16:00] <ali1234> how do i fix this?
[16:00] <mainerror> Oh shoot me ... I managed to miss the goddamn hangout!
[16:00] <Ursinha> ali1234, you changed stuff in the .repo/manifests/ files, haven't you?
[16:00] <ali1234> mainerror: they didn't say anything we don't already know
[16:00] <ali1234> Ursinha: no, i did not touch those
[16:00] <Lloir> gianguido, i have the surfaceflinger seg fault too
[16:00] <ali1234> Ursinha: i only edited .rapo/manifest.xml
[16:00] <Cyanogen101> ARGH
[16:00] <Cyanogen101> ment to be easy
[16:01] <Ursinha> ali1234, that's weird, it didn't happen to me... but developers should know the answer :) rsalveti ?
[16:01] <ali1234> Ursinha: i have more question
[16:01] <gianguido> Lloir, fantastic :-/
[16:02] <Lloir> kinda is
[16:02] <Lloir> at least you know it's not device specific
[16:02] <gianguido> Lloir, that's true!
[16:03] <hejian> got this issue when running "qmlscene clock.qml": MetaType::registerType: Binary compatibility break -- Type flags for type 'QPaintBufferCacheEntry' [1024] don't match. Previously registered TypeFlags(0x3), now registering TypeFlags(0x103).
[16:03] <hejian> how to solve this issue?
[16:04] <netcurli> hejian, are you running this on the phone/tablet or on the desktop?
[16:06] <sergiusens> OverSu: you said that you were back and read the release notes... but... (and nothing else), so my question is: but what?
[16:06] <hejian> netcurli: yes on desktop
[16:10] <jbooth> Any dev able to confirm if I'm off in the weeds trying to use pulseaudio to alter audio on the fly on the phone?
[16:10] <mainerror> "Everything we take from Android is just C/C++, so you'll notice that your Android build environment will be way smaller than when comparing to the traditional Android builds." ... thank god
[16:10] <jhodapp> mainerror, hehe, indeed
[16:10] <Namidairo> except for that nice prebuilt 500mb rootfs
[16:11] <netcurli> hejian: pure qml or qml and c++
[16:11] <netcurli> ?
[16:17] <maara_> hi all, need a little help with phablet_flash please
[16:17] <b34r> go ahead maara_
[16:18] <rayzer> another bug-report question, so i file it against ubuntu  in launchpad, against quantal or raring?  and tag with mobile?
[16:18] <maara_> the path for a downloaded image is hardcoded but my wifes ubuntu is in a different language so the download path is different hence it doesn't exists from the phablet's point of view
[16:18] <maara_> is it possible to set the path as a parameter?
[16:19] <maara_> Download directory set to /home/maara/Stažené/phablet-flash/95
[16:19] <maara_> UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\u017e' in position 15: ordinal not in range(128)
[16:19] <asporter> Hello, i'm trying to port Ubuntu Touch Preview to Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini ST15i with codename:Mango , i'm having problems when executing phablet-dev-bootstrap -v "Vendor device Mango not supported"
[16:19] <asporter> Any fix?
[16:20] <netcurli> rayzer: you file it against ubuntu and tag it with ubuntu-touch-preview
[16:20] <rayzer> thanks netcurli
[16:20] <grizmawe> rayzer, I filed by going to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug?no-redirect and leave the package section as "i dont know". remeber to expand the extra options at the bottom and include the ubuntu-touch-preview tag
[16:20] <rayzer> ok, thanks
[16:20] <mmrazik> maara_: I would try "export LANG=en_US.utf8" (a workaround rather than fix)
[16:20] <mmrazik> maara_: it might work even with the dir you have
[16:21] <asporter> Please any help?
[16:22] <Ursinha> asporter,  I submitted a patch to fix that, should be on any time, but the change is described here, you can just apply the patch locally: http://bit.ly/XpQghS
[16:22] <Ursinha> copying and pasting that message forever :P
[16:22] <ali1234> Ursinha: The porting guide says to "check the file cm.dependencies available on your CM device specific repository ... and include them all in your local manifest". The cm.dependencies file given as an example contains four other repos but only two are included in the example diff. Why?
[16:22] <ali1234> Ursinha: i'm just going to keep blasting you with questions until rsalveti shows up :)
[16:23] <Ursinha> ali1234, because two of them are already on the main page for the device
[16:23] <asporter> Ursinha: what exactly should i execute?
[16:23] <Ursinha> or something like that :) device and kernel
[16:23]  * rsalveti back
[16:23] <ali1234> \o/
[16:23]  * rsalveti reading backlog
[16:23] <Ursinha> yay! /me runs hehe
[16:24] <mmrazik> maara_: if that doesn't help then editing $HOME/.config/user-dirs.dirs should
[16:24] <maara_> mmrazik: xport LANG=en_US.utf8 didn't helped.... any other actions than exporting the variable are needed???
[16:25] <asporter> Can i port Ubuntu Touch on a 32bit platform?
[16:25] <maara_> mmrazik: editing $HOME/.config/user-dirs.dirs seems to be ok.. thanks!
[16:25] <mmrazik> maara_: let me try to fix it properly :)
[16:26] <jakuban1> hello, if i have custom android on my nexus 7, then when i install ubuntu, recovery will be wiped?
[16:27] <sk8punk> hey there. i was trying to install this on a samsung galaxy s2 skyrocket (i am currently running a 10.1 cynogyn mod nightly rom) and when i try to flash it it says device is unsupported. has anyone tried doing this with the sjyrocket? or have any ideas?
[16:27] <jakuban1> or i will still be able to restore android through recovery
[16:27] <Sloth> Jakuban1 - If you backed up your image you should be fine... I am assuming, this and making sure now
[16:27] <juicyjones> jakuban1: make a backup and don't flash the ubuntu recovery. i used TWRP
[16:27] <Sloth> in the installation it suggests backing it up
[16:28] <maara_> btw. is the recovery on Nexus7 also being flashed??
[16:28] <juicyjones> jakuban1: that way you can restore your backup easily
[16:28] <jakuban1> so recovery will remain untouched, yes?
[16:28] <jakuban1> i have twrp
[16:28] <sk8punk> jakuban1: i balieve so
[16:28] <maara_> exactly my question :-D
[16:28]  * sk8punk not sure tho
[16:28] <jakuban1> :P
[16:28] <rsalveti> ali1234: so what is the issue?
[16:28] <jakuban1> ok, thanks ;p
[16:28] <rsalveti> ali1234: are you trying to port to a different device?
[16:28] <ali1234> rsalveti: mutiple issues
[16:28] <sk8punk> i just removed my sd card i backed it up on
[16:28] <ali1234> rsalveti: yes
[16:28] <rsalveti> :-)
[16:29] <jakuban1> and one more
[16:29] <rsalveti> ali1234: which one?
[16:29] <rictec> did the on-air ended?
[16:29] <ali1234> rsalveti: galaxysmtd
[16:29] <rsalveti> rictec: yes
[16:29] <rictec> wow i get to late
[16:29] <jakuban1> i must have installed ubuntu on pc or it can be done from windows?
[16:29] <sk8punk> jakuban1: yes. i dont balieve there are windows tools out yet
[16:30] <jakuban1> so, Virtualbox will be ok?
[16:30] <rsalveti> ali1234: what is the first :-)
[16:30] <sk8punk> jakuban1: if you have usb support it should be
[16:30] <ali1234> rsalveti: first issue: i cloned the source yesterday before porting guide was up, with -v grouper. do i need to make any changes to repo since i did not clone with -v galaxysmtd like the porting guide says i am supposed to?
[16:30] <jakuban1> ok
[16:30] <AlanBell> jakuban1: you can do it from windows, or from a vm
[16:30] <rictec> rsalveti: thanks
[16:30] <sk8punk> does anyone have any ideas on my post earlier?
[16:30] <ali1234> rsalveti: ie additional changes not listed on porting guide
[16:31] <AlanBell> ubot5: !windows-#ubuntu-phone is <reply> you can install Ubuntu Touch from windows, see https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg00222.html
[16:31] <AlanBell> !windows | jakuban1
[16:31] <dank101> Guys
[16:31] <grizmawe> sk8punk, The galaxy s2 does not have an image yet so will need to be ported https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting - dont know if anyone is working on it yet but you could try if you are brave
[16:31] <rsalveti> ali1234: no, currently the device flag there is not used
[16:32] <rsalveti> ali1234: so it's fine
[16:32] <rsalveti> ali1234: now you just need to add the additional repos
[16:32] <dank101> the porting instructions don't work
[16:32] <ali1234> rsalveti: ok. second issue: The porting guide says to "check the file cm.dependencies available on your CM device specific repository ... and include them all in your local manifest". The cm.dependencies file given as an example contains four other repos but only two are included in the example diff. Why?
[16:32] <sk8punk> grizmawe thanks. i was actually thinking about starting the develpoment for it.
[16:33] <rsalveti> ali1234: yeah, that was because when I did that change we had less repos
[16:33] <ali1234> rsalveti: specifically: https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_samsung_p3110/blob/cm-10.1/cm.dependencies has p3100, omap4-common, espresso10, SamsungServiceMode - but only p3100 and espresso10 appear in the diff
[16:33] <rsalveti> ali1234: but that's just an example
[16:33] <grizmawe> sk8punk, np
[16:33] <rsalveti> use the repos you have currently for your device
[16:33] <digitalfiz> has anyone created a flashable rom of ubuntu yet?
[16:33] <ali1234> rsalveti: i don't understand what you mean by that
[16:33] <rsalveti> ali1234: the only one you don't need there is SamsungServiceMode
[16:33] <mainerror> dank101: Can you get a bit more specific? :)
[16:33] <mainerror> What exactly doesn't work.
[16:33] <rsalveti> ali1234: if you look the repo a few days ago, it didn't have the omap4-common
[16:34] <rsalveti> at the github side
[16:34] <asporter> can someone please show me an example of phablet-dev-bootstrap -v [vendor] [target] ????????????????????????????
[16:34] <ali1234> rsalveti: so if you did this today, you would add omap4-common?
[16:34] <dank101> when i run phablet-dev-bootstrap d2att it fails
[16:34] <ptl> what is the Google+ page for Ubuntu Phone/Tablet applications?
[16:34] <dank101> i don't use -v because im porting it for the first time
[16:34] <rsalveti> ali1234: exactly
[16:35] <ali1234> rsalveti: ok. third issue: when i edited .repo/manifest.xml and then ran repo sync i got an error: "error: .repo/manifests/: contains uncommitted changes"
[16:35] <grizmawe> can someone confirm my bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1131794
[16:35] <dank101> phablet-dev-bootstrap: error: argument -v/--vendors is required
[16:35] <ali1234> rsalveti: in .repo/manifests/default.xml i found copy of all my changes. what is the relationship between these files, and why did i get that error?
[16:35] <rsalveti> ali1234: right, guess you need to commit that first
[16:35] <dank101> when i do -v
[16:36] <Optimus> Hi people
[16:36] <rsalveti> get into .repo/manifests
[16:36] <dank101> phablet-dev-bootstrap: error: argument -v/--vendors is require
[16:36] <dank101> woops
[16:36] <rsalveti> ali1234: then git commit -m "commit message"
[16:36] <dank101> ERROR:phablet-dev-bootstrap:Vendor device d2att not supported
[16:36] <rsalveti> ali1234: the .repo/manifest.xml is just a link
[16:36] <ali1234> rsalveti: is it a symlink or something? ah ok
[16:36] <asporter> dank101: i'm having the same problem
[16:36] <rsalveti> ali1234: it's a syslink to .repo/manifests/default.xml
[16:36] <ali1234> rsalveti: i thought repo sync had copied the file or something
[16:36] <Optimus> Does the Optimus L9 have support for the Ubuntu OS?
[16:37] <dank101> not yet
[16:37] <ali1234> rsalveti: then i got really confused that .repo/manifest.xml is not versioned but the other one is
[16:37] <rsalveti> let me update the guide
[16:37] <Optimus> can't wait for Ubuntu to be on my LG Optimus L9.
[16:38] <grizmawe> Optimus, you can try porting to it yourself if you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
[16:39] <dank101> Can anyone help me
[16:39] <ali1234> rsalveti: this is not really a problem but why does diff have those backquotes: "Cyanogen``Mod" - wiki markup error or something?
[16:39] <asporter> grizmawe: i'm having problem that vendor is not supported
[16:39] <asporter> please someone help me
[16:39] <dank101> me two
[16:39] <dank101> *too
[16:39] <TToivanen> asporter I'm having the same problem
[16:39] <duce> Im sure this is a over asked question.  Are they going to port ubuntu mobile OS to older phones like the Galaxy S 1,2,3, or Galaxy tabs?
[16:40] <asporter> TToivanen: guide is badly written
[16:40] <ali1234> duce: "they" are not but unofficial ports might happen
[16:40] <rsalveti> ali1234: probably
[16:40] <duce> ali1234, thx
[16:40] <ali1234> asporter: you need to patch that Ursinha keeps linking
[16:40] <dank101> we are ALL having the same issues
[16:40] <duce> and that sux
[16:40] <rsalveti> duce: I ported to galaxy tab 2 7.0
[16:40] <rsalveti> need to post that later today
[16:40] <TToivanen> asporter: It's not. We are the ones missing something here.
[16:40] <asporter> ali1234: how?
[16:40] <duce> rsalveti, great :)
[16:40] <rsalveti> duce: the new package should be up already
[16:40] <rsalveti> apt-get update/dist-upgrade should get you a new phablet-tools
[16:41] <rsalveti> which has Ursinha's changes
[16:41] <duce> rsalveti, ah ok sweet
[16:41] <Ursinha> after applying that patch, just run it without the -v argument
[16:41] <asporter> rsalveti: how did you run phablet-dev-bootstrap -v?
[16:41] <Ursinha> asporter, are you reading us? :)
[16:41] <rsalveti> with latest changes you don't need '-v' anymore
[16:41] <rsalveti> update your package
[16:42] <rsalveti> just updated the wiki
[16:42] <ali1234> rsalveti: that's all the problems i had so far but i'm sure i'll have more questions soon :)
[16:42] <rsalveti> ali1234: sure :-)
[16:42] <asporter> Ursinha: i saw that it's merged, but it's not updated
[16:43] <Ursinha> asporter, you have two options: wait for the package to be updated or apply the patch manually
[16:43] <ptl> how do I close an application in the ubuntu touch interface? Sliding it to the right causes it to go to background and trying to slide it to the left makes it shrink a little and get darker but that's it
[16:43] <Ursinha> asporter, once it's done, run the script without the -v option
[16:43] <rsalveti> https://launchpad.net/~phablet-team/+archive/tools
[16:43] <rsalveti> new package is already there
[16:43] <asporter> Ursinha: patching manually for sure ;)
[16:43] <ali1234> ptl: swipe up from bottom and press x
[16:43] <Ursinha> ptl, guess using hud
[16:43] <Ursinha> what ali1234 said :)
[16:43] <dank101> downloading
[16:43] <ptl> thanks
[16:44] <ali1234> rsalveti: what about cm-10.1-M1.xml?
[16:44] <maara_> so the CWM is being flashed
[16:44] <maara_> I am screwed as my backup is made by TWRP
[16:44] <ali1234> rsalveti: can i just copy lines for my device out of that and into default.xml?
[16:44] <dank101> i was trying to upgrade it before the new version
[16:45] <asporter> Ursinha: i patched it, still the same problem
[16:45] <Tassadar> maara_: I believe you don't have to use Ubuntu's recovery
[16:45] <ali1234> actually, i guess they are not in there...
[16:45] <rsalveti> ali1234: yes
[16:45] <Ursinha> asporter, how are you running it?
[16:45] <grizmawe> asporter, I just checked and apt-get dist-upgrade offered the new version of phablet-tools
[16:45] <rsalveti> ali1234: that's what the porting guide recommends
[16:45] <Tassadar> maara_: it is only used during the installation process, then you can flash TWRP
[16:45] <dank101> the commands need to be diffrent
[16:45] <asporter> Ursinha: i bzr branch and used dpkg-buildpackage and installed it
[16:45] <dank101> the synthax is diffrent
[16:45] <ali1234> rsalveti: have you edited it while i wasn't looking? ;)
[16:45] <rsalveti> ali1234: that as well, but I had that before :P
[16:46] <asporter> Ursinha: then, phablet-dev-bootstrap -v Mango /1234
[16:46] <dank101> phablet-dev-bootstrap [device]
[16:46] <Ursinha> asporter, <Ursinha> asporter, once it's done, run the script without the -v option
[16:46] <ali1234> rsalveti: porting guide says get codenames from cyanogen wiki...?
[16:46] <duce> On ubuntu 12.04 64bit following this guide to install ubuntu-sdk, I get dependencies are unmet:  ubuntu-sdk : Depends: ubuntu-qtcreator-qt5libs but it is not going to be installed
[16:46] <Ursinha> asporter, <rsalveti> with latest changes you don't need '-v' anymore
[16:46] <Ursinha> asporter, <Ursinha> after applying that patch, just run it without the -v argument
[16:46] <Ursinha> :)
[16:46] <TToivanen> I'm getting vendor device endeavoru not supported. Do I need to patch it or what?
[16:46] <asporter> Ursinha: Done! thanks
[16:46] <dank101> Don't have -v
[16:47] <ali1234> (and git repos)
[16:47] <dank101> -v BREAKS IT
[16:47] <dank101> -V BREAKS IT
[16:47] <asporter> Ursinha: ERROR:phablet-dev-bootstrap:Error while trying to sync repository
[16:47] <quittle> I think my n7 is stuck with button1 down.  I can't click a lot of things
[16:48] <quittle> how do i reboot?
[16:48] <grizmawe> quittle, they are placeholders there is only phone calls, sms, gallery, notepad, video player and browser working at the moment
[16:48] <mhall119> quittle: hold the power button
[16:48] <asporter> Ursinha: any help?
[16:49] <grizmawe> quittle, hold power button to turn off and then again to turn on
[16:49] <Ursinha> asporter, with that message, not really :/
[16:49] <maara_> well it sesm to be very nice on my N7 :)
[16:49] <quittle> ok, that worked. So, what do you mean by placeholders?
[16:49] <asporter> Ursinha: what is causing it?
[16:49] <Ursinha> asporter, I have no idea
[16:50] <grizmawe> quittle, most of the content is dummy data and pictures - not working programs.
[16:50] <holdmyheadwhilei> Thank you all
[16:50] <quittle> grizmawe: oh, didn't realize, thanks
[16:50] <asporter> Ursinha: can i do it manually instead of using phablet-dev-bootstrap?
[16:50] <holdmyheadwhilei> Can't wait till the preview becomes real
[16:50] <achandra> is there a way to download apps as of yet, or is that functionality not built in yet
[16:50] <Ursinha> rsalveti, what can be causing asporter problem?
[16:51] <achandra> ive got it up and running on a N7 as well.
[16:51] <grizmawe> quittle, I can make and receive calls, sms, use camera. everything I need while I develop some apps :P
[16:51] <holdmyheadwhilei> i think it just applies it as an update.zip
[16:51] <holdmyheadwhilei> after format
[16:51] <rsalveti> asporter: the script will run repo init with the right parameters
[16:51] <rsalveti> repo init -u git://phablet.ubuntu.com/CyanogenMod/android.git -b phablet-10.1
[16:52] <rsalveti> and clone a few important bzr repos, see the code
[16:52] <grizmawe> achandra, no way to download from the gui. can use apt-get from ssh and push your own qml projects via qtcreator
[16:52] <achandra> grizmawe, i see and how does one get shell access to the device or is there a how to guide for that?
[16:53] <holdmyheadwhilei> adb
[16:53] <holdmyheadwhilei> adb shell
[16:53] <asporter> rsalveti:  when i used that repo init, it doesn't create any new file
[16:53] <mfisch> how do I make the OSK go away?
[16:53] <rsalveti> asporter: it creates a .repo at the folder you run the command
[16:54] <grizmawe> achandra, there is a guide... let me find it....
[16:54] <rsalveti> asporter: and that takes a while to finish
[16:54] <grizmawe> mfisch, swipe down from the top edge of the keyboard
[16:54] <mfisch> grizmawe: thanks!
[16:54] <asporter> rsalveti: it finished in less than a second and there's no .repo
[16:54] <rsalveti> asporter: might be a problem with your network then
[16:55] <asporter> rsalveti: output:Get https://gerrit.googlesource.com/git-repo/clone.bundle
[16:55] <asporter> rsalveti: the link is not available in my country, can you give it to me manually?please
[16:57] <grizmawe> achandra, its in the release notes https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes -- see section on accessing device over ssh
[17:01] <holdmyheadwhilei> Works best on my N7 using a stylus
[17:01] <grizmawe> achandra, if you are familiar with adb then basically you sdb shell to the device; "ubuntu_chroot shell" to get into the container and then install ssh server as you would on desktop (apt-get install openssh-server)
[17:01] <holdmyheadwhilei> I could only stand it for like 30 mins and then went back AOKP
[17:01] <mrgoodcat> s/sdb/adb
[17:01] <achandra> grizmawe, yep reading through the doc now :)
[17:02] <holdmyheadwhilei> Anyone know if the N7 would support miracast in the future?
[17:02] <onlychevys> When I run: phablet-dev-bootstrap [target_directory], all I get is command not found?
[17:03] <nickholtus> hi, i have a problem when trying to sync the build
[17:04] <nickholtus> when running:   phablet-dev-bootstrap [/home/nick/ubuntu] i get usage: phablet-dev-bootstrap [-h] -v VENDORS [-j JOBS] [-c] [-r REFERENCE]                              target_directory phablet-dev-bootstrap: error: argument -v/--vendors is required
[17:04] <nickholtus> but i copied pasted the line from the guide
[17:04] <nickholtus> what can i do?
[17:05] <dank101> sorry
[17:05] <dank101> synthax changed
[17:05] <dank101> phablet-dev-bootstrap [device model]
[17:06] <nickholtus> was that answer for me?
[17:06] <duce> anyone know why there are dependency issues when installing ubuntu-sdk with this howto http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/gomobile/
[17:06] <duce> on ubuntu 12.04 64bit^
[17:08] <dholbach> rsalveti, sergiusens: first patches coming in on the ubuntu-phone list! :)
[17:09] <ogra_> wohoo
[17:09] <onlychevys> phablet-dev-bootstrap [home/mark/ubuntu]  command not found?
[17:09]  * ogra_ returns from snow shoveling
[17:09] <holdmyheadwhilei> Is there any list I can sub to know when a new version is released?
[17:09] <nickholtus> you didn't install phablet-dev-bootstrap
[17:10] <ogra_> holdmyheadwhilei, there will be daily releases early next week
[17:10] <vibhav> I need a nexus galaxy/4/7/10 now
[17:10] <Laney> is there a way to manually rotate the nexus 7
[17:10] <Laney> ?
[17:10] <ogra_> i dont think so
[17:10] <holdmyheadwhilei> Really? Wow
[17:10] <holdmyheadwhilei> Thanks Ogra_
[17:10] <achandra> grizmawe, in the docs (and not sure who the maintainer) is  ipaddr how wlan0 didnt work for me.. however standard ifconfig and or iwconfig worked fine
[17:10] <sergiusens> dholbach: nice!
[17:11] <sergiusens> onlychevys: also remove the brackets
[17:13] <onlychevys> how to install phablet-dev-bootstrap? I'm following the port guide and don't see anything about that. I know I'm missing something stupid.
[17:14] <onlychevys> lol, google search comes back with how to install wood flooring!
[17:17] <duce> for installed qtchooser and now this is my problem http://askubuntu.com/questions/259363/qtcreator-plugins-and-templates-missing
[17:17] <duce> lulz
[17:18] <rsalveti> dholbach: great
[17:18] <dholbach> yes :)
[17:21] <duce> for=force*
[17:21] <ogra_> so it seems your porting talk had some impact ... everyone in here got quiet (and is hopefully porting to their favorite device now)
[17:21] <ogra_> :)
[17:21] <duce> ^^
[17:22] <duce> Im just trying to install ubuntu-sdk on 12.04 64bit and I am getting strange qtchooser dependency errors
[17:22] <TToivanen> phablet-dev-bootstrap /home/derp/xxx/ it fails with OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory. What do I do?
[17:23] <blarkdackbyte> hi
[17:23] <NoHell> hi
[17:23] <NoHell> what up ?
[17:24] <sk8punk> o you know porting stuff lol
[17:25] <NoHell> when will we be able to actually phone whith ubuntu phone ? ;p
[17:25] <ogra_> you are already
[17:25] <NoHell> RLY ?
[17:25] <ogra_> just make sure to have a SIM without PIN
[17:25] <blarkdackbyte> can somebody help me? i called "phablet-flash -b" and it sais "unsupported device".  I ve a nexus 7 grouper. but i installed ubuntu and multirom ?!?!
[17:25] <onlychevys> Wow, got it syncing! How many hours do ya'll think it will take?
[17:26] <NoHell> damn
[17:26] <ogra_> blarkdackbyte, restore android first
[17:26] <duce> have ubuntu-sdk installed, when I open ubuntu-qtcreator I get a bunch of "Cannot load plugin" errors
[17:27] <holdmyheadwhilei> Well it's been real guys, going to sign off for now until another release.
[17:27] <sk8punk> have a good one holdmyheadwhilei
[17:27] <NoHell> is it possible to clear a PIN on any sim ?
[17:27] <holdmyheadwhilei> Thanks man you too
[17:27] <ogra_> NoHell, i bet google knows ;)
[17:28] <NoHell> yup
[17:28] <duce> is there a better channel to ask about installing ubuntu-sdk?
[17:28] <rrerolle> onlychevys: started syncing 2 hours ago, not yet at 1GB with a quite constant 110kB/s
[17:28] <garrafeytor> instale ubunto en el nexus 7 pero esta pegado en la pantalla de bloqueo
[17:28] <rrerolle> considering it needs 15 GB, the full sync will probably take more than a day
[17:29] <Hashcode> rsalveti: I had a question about 3 missing files in the source build.
[17:30] <ogra_> garrafeytor, only english in here ...
[17:30] <dholbach> everyone: sburg is 12 and just asked me how to help out, he wants to flash his Nexus7 and has a Mac - can anyone suggest a working VM solution for the Mac?
[17:30] <grizmawe> achandra, if you copied the line from your terminal then there is a typo - its meant to be "ip addr show wlan0"
[17:31] <ogra_> dholbach, i heard there is a native way with fastboot and adb on the mac ... but the guy went to bed ...
[17:31] <achandra> grizmawe, thanks for your help. almost warrants the purchase of another nexus 7 truth be told for development ;)
[17:31] <grizmawe> achandra, np at all
[17:31] <achandra> grizmawe, no issues... i got into it and started playing around
[17:31] <onlychevys> Thanks  rrerolle  I figured it was gonna be a loonng time lol
[17:32] <achandra> grizmawe, so at this point the applications available versus what needs to be developed  -- its at a stage where many of the apps typically available for a typical ubuntu desktop need to be ported over?
[17:32] <grizmawe> achandra, ip addr show was added to the wiki because ifconfig did not work without mount -t proc proc /proc which also wasnt in there earlier today.... the elves have been busy :D
[17:32] <Lloir> anyone else ported ubuntu to a MTP only device?
[17:32] <Hashcode> rsalveti: I was able to get them from the Maguro .zip, but ubuntuappmanager, libubuntu_application_api.so, and libis_compat_layer.so don't get built from source.
[17:32] <Lloir> seem's to have v.slow read\write especially to logcat
[17:33] <achandra> grizmawe, or do many of the typical apps, including third party stuff need to be ported?
[17:33] <grizmawe> achandra, correct. There is little written yet in the public repo. dont know what canonical are working on though. They said daily images and updates should arrive next week
[17:34] <achandra> cool
[17:35] <grizmawe> im just getting started on writing a clock app at the moment but I think my first one will be an app to show IP address so I dont have to keep adb shelling first to find IP for ssh :P
[17:35] <ogra_> haha
[17:35] <ogra_> ++
[17:35] <ogra_> good idea
[17:38] <rdesfo> has anyone get ubuntu to work with an older CyanogenMod (7)?
[17:40] <om26er> i don't think thats even possble
[17:40] <mrgoodcat> why would you try?
[17:40] <mrgoodcat> i'm certain it's possible since that part of the system has changed very little
[17:41] <mrgoodcat> why not use the current repo though?
[17:41] <ogra_> rdesfo, any reason to ?
[17:42] <rdesfo> would like to try an port to my old optimus V... doesn't seem to have a cyanogenMod 10 support but has 7
[17:43] <mrgoodcat> if nobody tries we'll never know :)
[17:43] <sk8punk> hi goodcat
[17:43] <mrgoodcat> hi sk8punk
[17:43] <Hashcode> Depends on how surfaceflinger is used inside Ubuntu
[17:43] <mrgoodcat> add yourself to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices and give it the 'ole college try
[17:44] <mrgoodcat> thats what i'm doing
[17:44] <mrgoodcat> s/doing/going to do
[17:45] <ogra_> rdesfo, i fear that wont work, ubuntu touch will only run on ARMv7 CPUs
[17:45] <dr01d> where is an easy place to see update/releases and changelogs?
[17:45] <mrgoodcat> only armv7?
[17:45] <mrgoodcat> i thought armv6 should work too
[17:45] <ogra_> yes
[17:45] <ogra_> no, v6 is not supported in ubuntu
[17:45] <ogra_> was dropped with 12.04
[17:46] <ogra_> *with the 12.04 release
[17:46] <grizmawe> rdesfo, the optimus v also only has 512M ram. this preview build requires at least 1GB
[17:47] <Hashcode> No it doesn't
[17:47] <Hashcode> actually
[17:47] <Hashcode> I have the preview running on the Kindle Fire atm w/ 512MB ram.
[17:47] <dr01d> if Nexus 7 was the reference device for this demo, why is the screen misaligned?
[17:47] <mrgoodcat> if you were really crazy you could recompile the nessecary binaries for armv6
[17:47] <dholbach> all right my friends - I've got to run - have a great weekend!
[17:48] <ogra_> Hashcode, yes, but thats not the specs we "support" :)
[17:48] <mrgoodcat> i fear that would take a long time though without a proper cluster
[17:48] <ogra_> dholbach, enjoy !!
[17:48] <Hashcode> ogra_ it's quite smooth actually.
[17:48] <icarus49> if my computer hadthe file phablet  flash Which command will i use to install ubuntu os again ?
[17:48] <ogra_> Hashcode, you will soon run out of RAM if you used the device for a while
[17:48] <icarus49> No download again
[17:48] <sburg> hey guys
[17:48] <Hashcode> ogra_ I'm using about 15mb of swap at the moment.
[17:48] <ogra_> great
[17:48] <mrgoodcat> is there a place in the wiki to put anecdotal "how device X runs"?
[17:49] <Hashcode> And there's a good chance I can make a smaller HD codec binary eventually which will free up an additional 50 or so mb
[17:49] <mhall119> mrgoodcat: you mean like "Good, decent, poor"?
[17:49] <pland> trying to flash a galaxy nexus 4 through virtual box…usb debugging enabled and phablet dab and fast boot installed…but phone not responding…am I flogging a dead horse?
[17:49] <sk8punk> thats better
[17:49] <sk8punk> switched to irssi instead of mIRC
[17:49] <sburg> guys so i tryed every vm to get ubuntu on my nexus 7 nothing worked sadly but i want to do it on a tablet any alternatives i have a mac
[17:49] <dholbach> ogra_, you too
[17:50] <grizmawe> sburg, install ubuntu on your mac...
[17:50] <mrgoodcat> you can do it using adb
[17:50] <Hashcode> ogra_ I think the RAM requirement for tablets is less than phones anyway
[17:50] <icarus49> if my computer had the file phablet  flash Which command can i use to install ubuntu os again (No download again)?
[17:50] <sburg> tryed that using bootable usb i have a mac book air dident work
[17:51] <ogra_> sburg, http://code.google.com/p/adb-fastboot-install/
[17:51] <mrgoodcat> test sk8punk
[17:51] <sk8punk> thanks
[17:51] <ogra_> try that and a manual install
[17:51] <mrgoodcat> also try this http://zackeryfretty.com/installing-ubuntu-touch-preview-for-the-nexus-devices-on-mac-or-pc/
[17:51] <jhodapp> sburg, I am typing this from Ubuntu natively on the latest Macbook Air
[17:51] <ogra_> oh, great
[17:52]  * ogra_ puts that url into his link collection
[17:52] <sburg> how did you do that jhodapp
[17:52] <mrgoodcat> with patience i'd guess
[17:52] <jhodapp> sburg, followed the ubuntu guide on installing on a Mac
[17:52] <mrgoodcat> i've installed it on a couple macbook pros
[17:52] <mrgoodcat> jhodapp, did you have graphics issues?
[17:52] <jhodapp> sburg, it definitely is not as straightforward as on a regular PC with a non-secured BIOS
[17:53] <sburg> you know what might be the problem my mac is only config  with 64gb ssd because its for school and i got it from my grandma
[17:53] <jhodapp> mrgoodcat, no, but most of the time when I boot, before I hit grub, the backlight doesn't come on...there's some weird timing issue that I haven't figured out yet.
[17:53] <Hashcode> ogra_ How is surfaceflinger being used in the display system do you know?
[17:54] <ogra_> Hashcode, not yet, no
[17:54] <ogra_> i havent had the time to even inspect the images, i only released them :)
[17:54] <Hashcode> Ah :)
[17:54] <duce> lol
[17:55] <ogra_> but i plan yo get more familiar the next days ... now that in here is less of a storm going on
[17:55] <Hashcode> There will be issues btw, with putting this on legacy devices due to the size of the data partition.
[17:55] <mrgoodcat> sk8punk, test
[17:55] <jhodapp> sburg, have you tried asking for help in the main ubuntu channel on getting Ubuntu onto your Air?
[17:55] <duce> legacy devices<3
[17:55] <sk8punk> ty mrgoodcat
[17:55] <ogra_> Hashcode, yeah, for sure
[17:55] <sburg> no how ever i tryed a external hard drive and everything else i can dig up
[17:56]  * sk8punk will be porting ubuntu for the skyrocket tonight
[17:56] <ogra_> sburg, get the adb and fastboot binaries with http://code.google.com/p/adb-fastboot-install/, then follow http://zackeryfretty.com/installing-ubuntu-touch-preview-for-the-nexus-devices-on-mac-or-pc/, that should get you going without needing to install ubuntu
[17:56] <Hashcode> For example, on the KFire, I had to extract the rootfs .zip and place it on the /sdcard partition and then edit the install script to extract from there.
[17:56] <ogra_> sk8punk, ++
[17:56] <Hashcode> Since the /data part by default is only about 1gb
[17:56] <sk8punk> ty ogra_
[17:57] <mrgoodcat> I love the ubuntu community. "oh it doesn't work on my phone.... whelp, better port it over myself then"
[17:57] <sk8punk> lol mrgoodcat++
[17:57] <ogra_> yeah its awesome
[17:58] <agu10^> hey!!!
[17:58] <agu10^> Will ubuntu for ARM (phone or tablets) run all my apps, or do they have to run on x86 emulator?
[17:58] <grizmawe> mrgoodcat, on the plus side - we will help all we can and wont charge you for the service... unless you want to buy ale?
[17:58] <sburg> ok great open source is awesome but i think im going to wait until the bugs are sorted out but when that happens UBUNTU HERE I COME
[17:58] <ali1234> so can we target android sdk emulator?
[17:58] <agu10^> sburg, that's like saying you're waiting for windows to become open source.
[17:58] <mrgoodcat> i've only recently become involved in linux dev and it has really surprised me how easy it was to get into. The elementary OS guys were great and extremely tolerant of my "new guy" problems
[17:59] <sburg> well yes because then everyone can patch the endless holes in windows
[17:59] <agu10^> yea
[17:59] <agu10^> it won't happen
[17:59] <mrgoodcat> agu10^, ubuntu for ARM will run your apps that are compiled for armv7
[18:00] <grizmawe> mrgoodcat, yep, providing you are cordial then there is plenty willing to help and then you can help others when you are further along. Its how I got started 15 years ago...
[18:00] <sburg> i mean think about java hole patched wait 200 more just came
[18:00] <TheSeven> mrgoodcat: what level of linux dev are you talking about?
[18:00] <agu10^> it sounds like what windows 7/8 for ARM was going to be
[18:00] <agu10^> but it finally ended up different
[18:00] <shaunj> mrgoodcat, so based on that link, would it be possible to just flash the two images using a pre-existing Clockwork recovery?
[18:01] <jakuban1> ok, i have tried this ubuntu
[18:01] <grizmawe> TheSeven, we dont do levels - the end of level boss fight scares people away :P
[18:01] <jakuban1> nothing special for now
[18:01] <shaunj> (that link meaning the one about flashing on a mac or pc)
[18:01] <duce> Anyone know why qtcreator might be complaining that plugins failed to load because dependencies were unmet??
[18:01] <sburg> ok i have to admit agu10 that would be awsome
[18:01] <mrgoodcat> shaunj, i don't know. I haven't tried it
[18:01] <agu10^> can't ubuntu for ARM also run Android apps?
[18:01] <mrgoodcat> shaunj, you shouldn't need to though. you can still use their recovery
[18:01] <agu10^> it's just java with a FOSS api
[18:02] <grizmawe> duce, if you install libbotan-1.10-0 and restart qtcreator all will be good
[18:02] <grizmawe> duce, looks like a packaging bug, they forgot the dependency
[18:02] <k1l> agu10^: no
[18:02] <seaners> hi all - so I installed both the phablet and the phablet daily images, per the wiki instructions, on my Nexus 7 and the screen was completely unresponsive
[18:03] <ali1234> seaners: yu have to use a hard to find gesture to unlock it
[18:03] <ali1234> i;m still not sure what exactly that gesture is
[18:03] <duce> grizmawe, THANK YOU!
[18:03] <seaners> huh
[18:03] <duce> :)
[18:03] <pmcgowan> seaners: left edge brings in launcher, right edge swipe goes to home
[18:03] <grizmawe> duce, np. ill update the wiki - can you link the page as Ive closed it...
[18:04] <jakuban1> apps arent working
[18:04] <pmcgowan> jakuban1: release note details which are dummy apps and which are complete
[18:04] <grizmawe> jakuban1, most of them are placeholders for now. this is VERY early preview
[18:05] <Hashcode> ogre_ I may not be here later.   But I added this last night to ubuntu_chroot:
[18:05] <Hashcode> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=aa7AJviC
[18:05] <Hashcode> As I don't think proc was getting mounted.
[18:06] <mrgoodcat>  jakuban1 we need more info than that to help you
[18:07] <jakuban1> for example music player, if i launch it, i can do nothing than swipe edge te get back to home
[18:07] <ogra_> Hashcode, hmm i thought the LXC container would do that
[18:07] <jakuban1> nexus 7
[18:07] <pmcgowan> jakuban1: its not real
[18:07] <ogra_> rsalveti, http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=aa7AJviC ^^^
[18:07] <duce> grizmawe, you mean this page http://askubuntu.com/questions/259363/qtcreator-plugins-and-templates-missing
[18:07] <jakuban1> ok
[18:07] <grizmawe> jakuban1, music player is a dummy placeholder. its not written yet
[18:07] <jakuban1> thanks
[18:08] <mrgoodcat> jakuban1, only programs written in qt5 work as of right nwo
[18:08] <mrgoodcat> and as far as i can tell they are the only planned support in the near future
[18:08] <pmcgowan> for native yes, also webapps, html5
[18:08] <grizmawe> duce,  no - I was thinking of the app devel wiki page... dont worry.. ill find it.... and add an answer to the questions page
[18:09] <duce> thx
[18:10] <Hashcode> ogra_ could be that it's mounted later, I was debugging my startup
[18:10] <tiagoscd> hi guys :) it's possible to do a dual boot with Ubuntu Touch and Android?
[18:11] <ogra_> tiagoscd, yes, but not really encouraged or supported officially
[18:11] <ogra_> dig the xda forums
[18:11] <sburg> and prone to problems
[18:12] <jakeg> if i install ubuntu touch on nexus 7 can i use a terminal on the device or only from remote machine via ssh?
[18:12] <mrgoodcat> that sounds like a scary way to brick your device
[18:12] <ali1234> mrgoodcat: pure egl apps should work too
[18:12] <sburg> mrgoodcat i agree
[18:12] <mainerror> ogra_: Regarding my keyboard bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1131722
[18:12] <mrgoodcat> and any command line apps should work fine once there is a working terminal
[18:12] <ogra_> mainerror, ok, i'll make sure it goes to the right people
[18:12] <jakeg> mrgoodcat: ok, so you just answered my question there!
[18:13] <jakeg> is there an eta for a working terminal?
[18:13] <mainerror> If I try to edit it and add "nemo-keyboard" as a target package it says that the selected package is not published in Ubuntu.
[18:13] <tiagoscd> ogra_: ok, thanks :)
[18:13] <Iktwo> is ubuntu-phone's keyboard maliit?
[18:13] <ali1234> Iktwo: yes
[18:13] <Iktwo> nice
[18:14] <ali1234> it's kind of not very good :/
[18:14] <ali1234> it doesn't fill the screen
[18:14] <Iktwo> ali1234 I like maliit
[18:14] <ali1234> and the letters are capitals where you pressed shift or not
[18:14] <Iktwo> ali1234 yeah I don't like that
[18:14] <Hashcode> ogra_ do you know where GRID_UNIT_PX and QTWEBKIT_DPR should be set in the device?
[18:14] <ali1234> and no @ symbol on main screen
[18:14] <ogra_> Hashcode, heh, no
[18:15] <ali1234> it's functional i guess
[18:15] <Hashcode> Lemme grep some stuff and see if I can find it
[18:15] <mainerror> Wait what!? The keyboard is not nemo-keyboard?
[18:15] <RaymanFX> anybody here porting Ubuntu Touch to SEMC devices?
[18:15] <RaymanFX> I am working on the Xperia S.
[18:15] <Hashcode> Oh
[18:15] <dank101> HASHCODE?!
[18:15] <Hashcode> I bet that's an export in init.*.rc
[18:15] <Hashcode> hello dank101
[18:15] <dank101> :O
[18:15] <gianguido> any update regarding the surfaceflinger's segfault?
[18:16] <dank101> OH MY GOD
[18:16] <Iktwo> mainerror nemo keyboard if I am correct it's just a "plugin" or a "keyboard" for maliit
[18:16] <dank101> sorry
[18:16] <mainerror> huh! "maliit-framework" that's a completely different story then.
[18:16] <RaymanFX> hash, which device are you working on currently?
[18:16] <Hashcode> gianguido which device?
[18:16] <mainerror> Yea looks like. Thanks Iktwo. :)
[18:16] <Hashcode> RaymanFX: sort of cleaning up KFire
[18:16] <Hashcode> RaymanFX: I'll try some Moto stuff here in  bit
[18:16] <gianguido> Hashcode, sgs3, but there's an error like this even on the htc one x port
[18:16] <Hashcode> hrm
[18:17] <Hashcode> so possibly adreno bin related
[18:17] <gianguido> Hashcode, here's the errorhttp://pastebin.com/MqyJDxc4
[18:17] <Hashcode> gianguido: which kernel are you using?
[18:17] <RaymanFX> are sgsIII and endeavoru booting Ubuntu Touch already?
[18:17] <Wuestenschiff> ist it possible to update the device via ssh? or need i to reflash ?
[18:17] <dank101> is SGS3 booting ubuntu?
[18:17] <RaymanFX> Xperia S booting up fine here; msm8660; adreno220
[18:17] <gianguido> Hashcode, i'm using an international i9300
[18:17] <gianguido> so with exynos processor
[18:17] <mainerror> gianguido: There is a HTC One X port?
[18:17] <Hashcode> Oh
[18:17] <gianguido> mainerror, a guy on irc was working on it
[18:17] <kknikolas> mainerror: i think yes
[18:18] <gianguido> Hashcode, i'm using a modified cm kernel
[18:18] <Hashcode> This is an error relating to hwcomposer
[18:18] <gianguido> uhm
[18:18] <gianguido> graphic driver issue?
[18:18] <RaymanFX> Generic Q: what kind of app 'store' or marketplace does Ubuntu Touch use?
[18:18] <dank101> Signal 11
[18:18] <kknikolas> is it possible to dual boot android and ubuntu phone?
[18:18] <Hashcode> you might have to use custom bionic headers
[18:18] <Angelus> hi all
[18:18] <RaymanFX> generic ubuntu market?
[18:18] <mainerror> gianguido: You don't happen to know who it was?
[18:18] <dank101> linux signal 11
[18:19] <gianguido> mainerror, Lloir was working on htc ox
[18:19] <Angelus> question for you guys... if you please
[18:19] <dank101> http://pastebin.com/MqyJDxc4
[18:19] <dank101> woops
[18:19] <Lloir> hmm
[18:19] <dank101> I/DEBUG   ( 2420): pid: 2454, tid: 2455, name: SurfaceFlinger  >>> /system/bin/surfaceflinger <<<
[18:19] <dank101> I/DEBUG   ( 2420): signal 11 (SIGSEGV), code 1 (SEGV_MAPERR), fault addr deadbaad
[18:19] <Lloir> someone call?
[18:19] <mainerror> Lloir: You are working on a HTC One X port?
[18:19] <Lloir> One x+
[18:19] <dank101> I/DEBUG   ( 2420): debuggerd committing suicide to free the zombie!
[18:19] <gianguido> lol
[18:20] <Lloir> not the onex but one x+
[18:20] <Lloir> :p
[18:20] <mainerror> Lloir: Awesome! Want to add yourself to this list then? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices#Work_in_progress
[18:20] <gianguido> Lloir, there are a lot of difference between these devices?
[18:20] <RaymanFX> #dank101
[18:20] <RaymanFX> this keeps crashing on you
[18:20] <Hashcode> Oh
[18:20] <Lloir> sure add me for both the international and AT&T mainerror
[18:20] <Lloir> remember one x plus
[18:20] <Lloir> not the HOX
[18:20] <Hashcode> I suppose I should add myself to that list
[18:20] <Lloir> some gianguido
[18:20] <Lloir> ;P
[18:21] <gianguido> i'm "working" on sgs3, international edition :)
[18:21] <mainerror> Lloir: I can do that for you if you want but I'll need a Launchpad link to your profile.
[18:21] <RaymanFX> lol I can't post certain parts of that logcat it seems
[18:21] <Hashcode> gianguido: you know how to use strace?
[18:21] <mcfarke311> hey guys
[18:21] <gianguido> Hashcode, nope but i can learn, gimme 5 minutes
[18:21] <ds500ss> I have one Xperia S, mine's already running CM 9
[18:21] <gianguido> Hashcode, what do you need?
[18:21] <mainerror> RaymanFX: Pastebin it.
[18:21] <dank101> is someone working on the d2att
[18:21] <Lloir> mainerror, https://launchpad.net/~spirit2457
[18:21] <mcfarke311> has ubuntu phone been tried on some other devices yet?
[18:21] <Hashcode> This is how you get a better idea of where you're crashing
[18:21] <gianguido> Hashcode, thanks for the advice
[18:22] <Hashcode> open your init.*.rc file
[18:22] <Hashcode> Oh
[18:22] <Hashcode> actually it's the main init.rc in system/core/rootdir
[18:22] <Hashcode> find the service line for surfacefliger
[18:22] <gianguido> yes
[18:22] <Hashcode> surfaceflinger
[18:22] <gianguido> Hashcode, found
[18:22] <Hashcode> and edit it
[18:23] <Hashcode> Add this "/system/xbin/strace -ff -F -tt -s 200 -o /cache/trace/surfaceflinger.pid" inbetween the service name and the bin
[18:23] <Hashcode> Now you'll also need to build a cm10.1 and add strace to the product_packages
[18:23] <Hashcode> Or hm.. lemme see if it's in this build
[18:23] <Hashcode> NM, ubuntu kept it in external
[18:24] <Hashcode> You can add: PRODUCT_PACKAGES += strace to your device.mk
[18:24] <gianguido> let me know, otherwise between this night and tomorrow i'll
[18:24] <lantizia> OK! day 2 ... is there a way to dual boot Ubuntu and Android on a Nexus 4 - now? :D
[18:24] <Hashcode> it'll get you an strace binary in /system/xbin
[18:24] <gianguido> Hashcode, uhm, i'll try anyway... this was a frankenbuild
[18:24] <Hashcode> make sure you create a "trace" dir in /cache
[18:24] <jakeg> am i right to presume normal ubuntu programs need to be redeveloped/recompiled to work on ubuntu-phone? i.e. vlc, firefox, blah blah won't "just work"?
[18:24] <Hashcode> And boot that up
[18:24] <Hashcode> once it's crashed a bit, reboot into recovery
[18:25] <Hashcode> adb pull /cache/trace
[18:25] <mainerror> Lloir: What's the codename of the HOX+? I can't seem to find it on the CM device list.
[18:25] <Hashcode> There will be quite a few surfaceflinger.### files
[18:25] <dank101> Also gianguido are ypu the one who posted I900 on WIP devices
[18:25] <Hashcode> You can sort of trace through the text to where it crashes
[18:25] <Lloir> mainerror, it's not there :P the international is enrc2b and the AT&T is evitareul
[18:25] <mainerror> Ah! :)
[18:25] <gianguido> dank101, ypu?
[18:25] <mainerror> Cheers.
[18:26] <ogra_> jakeg, they wont work on the touch UI ... once the dock-desktop mode is implemented you will be able to use them on a docked device in desktop mode
[18:26] <gianguido> Hashcode, recieved, i'm syncing the code right now
[18:26] <grizmawe> jakeg, why would you want to - they would look terrible on a phone or tablet without new gui
[18:26] <dank101> gianguido, if that was you thats incorrect for the factory unlocked S3
[18:26] <dank101> (i9300)
[18:27] <jakeg> ogra_: thanks. but what do you mean by "docked device"? how about a nexus 7 connected to bluetooth keyboard and mouse, or does it need to be docket to a system with an x86 processor or something?
[18:27] <jakeg> grizmawe: not if connected to external keyboard/mouse and screen
[18:27] <gianguido> dank101, dunno if my english miss some slang words, because i can't understand what are you saying xD
[18:28] <dank101> i have OCD about that stuff
[18:28] <sburg> bye guys talk later
[18:28] <ogra_> jakeg, i think it will need an external monitor to go into docked mode
[18:28] <dank101> are you working on the S3
[18:28] <dank101> and if yes is it on a carrier
[18:28] <ogra_> jakeg, but we'll only be able to tell once that mode exists :)
[18:28] <dank101> (locked)
[18:29] <gianguido> dank101, lol yeah i'm working on the international unlocked version of the sgs3 (i9300)
[18:29] <jakeg> ogra_: but surely the code need to be like recompiled for arm as well? or can it dock with an external cpu somehow?
[18:29] <dank101> nvm
[18:29] <ogra_> jakeg, the whole of ubuntu is built for arm since 2009
[18:31] <jakeg> ogra_: really? hah... did not know. so all ubuntu programs generally work on arm as well? or just those developed specially for it?
[18:31] <dank101> he's right
[18:31] <dank101> No
[18:31] <dank101> needs to be compiled FOR arm
[18:31] <dank101> if it's open you can recompile it
[18:31] <jakeg> dank101: thanks
[18:32] <grizmawe> ogra_, who is responsible for the http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/gomobile/ page? it needs a not adding to also install libbotan-1.10-0 as the qtcreator fails to load plugins without it
[18:32] <jakeg> so do programs like vlc and firefox have arm support on ubuntu atm?
[18:32] <Sloth> Question: I have the Toro Verizon Galaxy nexus, trying to install, When I run
[18:33] <Hashcode> I should head out, good luck guys
[18:33] <Sloth> phablet-flash -b getting 'unsupported device'
[18:33] <gianguido> Sloth, toro isn't supported by now
[18:33] <Sloth> :(
[18:33] <sk8punk> Sloth: sounds like you need to port it
[18:33] <dank101> *offically
[18:33] <gianguido> at least from official ubuntu program
[18:33] <dank101> flash this using CWMR
[18:33] <dank101> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38294870
[18:33] <dank101> FOR TORO
[18:34] <Sloth> thanks, ill try it out
[18:34] <chouchoune> grizmawe: you just replied to my question before I even asked it, thanks ;)
[18:34] <icarus49> adbd cannot run as root in production builds How i can fix this error ?????
[18:34] <mainerror> Consolidated and updated the Work in Progress list. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices#Work_in_progress
[18:34] <dank101> unlock the bootloader you noob
[18:34] <Sloth> its already rooted
[18:34] <grizmawe> chouchoune, ive been answering it a few times throughout the day :P
[18:35] <ali1234> so what's the different between galaxysmtd and aries?
[18:35] <Sloth> sry, thought you were talking to me
[18:35] <mainerror> dank101: ... come on
[18:35] <dank101> soory
[18:35] <chouchoune> grizmawe: hehe, thanks anyway
[18:35] <grizmawe> chayin, np
[18:36] <dank101> too much newbieness around these adbd issues
[18:36] <grizmawe> *chouchoune,
[18:36] <icarus49> i unlocked and rooted may phone But i had this error
[18:36]  * mainerror enjoys watching the ports list grow
[18:36] <sk8punk> mainerror: where is the port list?
[18:36] <gianguido> mainerror, eheh ubuntu for phones/tablets is a great project to work o
[18:36] <gianguido> on
[18:36]  * dank101 give mainerror popcorn
[18:36] <mainerror> sk8punk: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices#Work_in_progress
[18:37] <sk8punk> mainerror++ ty
[18:37] <gianguido> hoping to get the port for the i9300 working during this week :-/
[18:37] <icarus49> @dank101 How can i fix this error ?
[18:38] <dank101> icarus49: root the device and unlock the bootloader
[18:38] <dank101> run adb reboot bootloader
[18:38] <dank101> then fastboot oem unlock
[18:38] <mainerror> gianguido: Want me to add you to that list?
[18:39] <gianguido> mainerror, mh, if you can yes
[18:39] <gianguido> do you need an email?
[18:39] <dank101> when gianguido finishes i will port to d2att
[18:39] <mainerror> You can too. ;)
[18:39] <mainerror> It's a wiki. :)
[18:39] <gianguido> dank101, there's a verizon port already
[18:39] <mainerror> gianguido: Your launchpad link would be better.
[18:40] <mainerror> Oh and the device codename.
[18:40] <gianguido> mainerror, by now i haven't one :-/ later i'll create one
[18:40] <dank101> gianguido, with the CDMA stuff
[18:40] <dank101> gianguido, thats a brick
[18:40] <dank101> gianguido, with a flash
[18:40] <gianguido> dank101, but easy to isolate
[18:40] <gianguido> i know, i know
[18:40] <mainerror> gianguido: Your email address will do until you have a launchpad account.
[18:40] <gianguido> mainerror, gianguidorama at gmail dot com
[18:40] <dank101> it easier to work with a international firmware to port
[18:41] <gianguido> dank101, true
[18:41] <dank101> gianguido, then using CDMA
[18:41] <mainerror> gianguido: Which code name is that?
[18:41] <mainerror> I mean the device.
[18:42] <gianguido> mainerror, I9300
[18:42] <dank101> yeah
[18:42] <mainerror> Oh the international version, alright.
[18:42] <dank101> yeah
[18:43] <ogra_> grizmawe, awesome, thanks, someone takes care of it
[18:43]  * ogra_ forwarded the info
[18:44] <nono68200> Have someone succeeded to add picture to a contact?
[18:44] <grizmawe> ogra_, np - guess its just a packaging bug
[18:44] <icarus49> @ dank101 in my fastboot mode L secure boot= enables lock state: unlocked Is it ok ?
[18:45] <dank101> icarus49, yes
[18:46] <ogra_> grizmawe, would you mind reporting a bug for the packaging ?
[18:46] <mainerror> gianguido: Done. ;)
[18:46] <gianguido> mainerror, thanks!
[18:46] <mainerror> yw
[18:46] <Iktwo> how can I install the image without replacing my recovery?
[18:47] <ogra_> grizmawe, though that lib seems to be only for encryption
[18:47] <lantizia> Can I run this "Phone" edition of Ubuntu on my Android device... on top of Android?
[18:47] <lantizia> maybe virtualised or a chroot or something?
[18:47] <mainerror> lantizia: Not really.
[18:47] <ogra_> lantizia, well, it replaces your android
[18:47] <dank101> No...
[18:48] <icarus49> @dank 101but when i run adb root It is error "adbd cannot run as root in production build " :(
[18:48] <lantizia> right but although I have a Nexus 4  - it's like 3 days old... I don't *want* to run ONLY ubuntu - I'd like access to both ubuntu and android apps
[18:48] <lantizia> so i don't mind running ubuntu only if it can run android apps... or android only if I can run ubuntu apps
[18:48] <lantizia> or dual boot maybe!?
[18:48] <icarus49> i have rooted and unlocked my phone
[18:48] <mainerror> lantizia: There's no way to do that at the moment.
[18:49] <lantizia> mainerror, how in theory might it be achieved though if one was to investigate?
[18:49] <robotfuel>  'apt-get install ... notepad-qml'  in instructions from http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/gomobile/#step-get-toolkit fails because of a missing libhud-qt-qml  package
[18:49] <gianguido> lantizia, maybe in a future, by now you can only have one os at once
[18:49] <mrgoodcat> jakeg, all programs in official repos have arm support
[18:49] <lantizia> would for example you expect them to share the same linux kernel?
[18:49] <lantizia> partition the internal 16GB of my nexus 4 perhaps?
[18:49] <gianguido> ubuntu single sign on takes ages to log in .-.
[18:49] <mainerror> I mean dual-booting, there's also no guarantee that someone will actually implement dual-boot even though I've heard of someone that implemented dual-booting for the Nexus 7.
[18:50] <Tassadar> that's right I did)
[18:50] <mcfarke311> you performed dual booting on the nexus 7?
[18:50] <Tassadar> so it _is_ possible, and not that hard, as Ubuntu phone is similar to android
[18:50] <Tassadar> yes
[18:50] <dank101> yeah
[18:50] <dank101> i did
[18:50] <lantizia> well I know there are ways of running Ubuntu on any android device and I think they use VNC to see into it... (although I have an X11 server installed on my android) -  so is this also possible to do with the "phone" version of ubuntu?
[18:50] <Tassadar> and, hell, why stop at dual)
[18:50] <mainerror> Tassadar: You might want to link lantizia to some resources then. :)
[18:50] <icarus49> @dank 101but when i run adb root It is error "adbd cannot run as root in production build " :(
[18:51] <icarus49> i have rooted and unlocked my phone
[18:51] <Tassadar> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2011403
[18:51] <dank101> icarus49, what phone
[18:51] <mainerror> lantizia: That's something completely different.
[18:51] <icarus49> @dank101 nexus 4
[18:51] <lantizia> mainerror, yes but it gets me what I want - the ability to access both types of apps
[18:51] <dank101> icarus49, ah...
[18:51] <mainerror> lantizia: 19:50 <Tassadar> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2011403
[18:52] <dank101> icarus49, just flash the boot in fastboot
[18:52] <mainerror> Take a look at this.
[18:52] <mrgoodcat> lantizia, what you are referring to is running ubuntu in a container. it actually runs full android and ubuntu is in a sort of virtualized environment
[18:52] <Tassadar> it's for n7 though
[18:52] <mrgoodcat> ubuntu works like an android app like that
[18:52] <ogra_> mrgoodcat, well ... it runs in an LXC container :)
[18:52] <mrgoodcat> and its unbearably slow on even the best phones and tablets
[18:52] <dank101> icarus49, then the ROM with CWMR or TWRP
[18:52] <mainerror> mrgoodcat: It's not quite like an Android app.
[18:53] <lantizia> mrgoodcat, I'm already familiar with the how... my question is... is it possible to do it with "Ubuntu Phone" in a container rather than regular "Ubuntu"
[18:53] <ogra_> not without the underlying modified android
[18:53] <mainerror> lantizia: It _is_ in a container. Just not the way you'd apparently like it. :)
[18:53]  * darkdragon-001 is no longer away - Gone for 3 hrs 50 mins 53 secs
[18:53] <lantizia> mainerror, no I'm fine with it in a container
[18:53] <ogra_> i doubt any stock android has LXC support builtin
[18:53] <mrgoodcat> presumably with the right application of technical skills, time, and luck it could be made to work like that
[18:54] <ogra_> right
[18:54] <mainerror> ogra_: Yea
[18:54] <ogra_> we call that porting ;)
[18:54] <ogra_> but you should use the ubuntu android code as your base for it
[18:54] <ogra_> else you will be missing stuff
[18:54] <mrgoodcat> and you can't even use the modified kernel with android because you have to disable a kernel module essential to android
[18:54] <lantizia> i mean, can I even get a copy of the filesystem that is "ubuntu phone" as a tgz or something?  something I can dump somewhere and run in a container?
[18:54] <icarus49> @dank 101 that mean i run phablet-flash on fastboot mode or i have to boot ClockRecovery Mode
[18:54] <ogra_> right
[18:55] <icarus49> @dank101 that mean i run phablet-flash on fastboot mode or i have to boot ClockRecovery Mode
[18:55] <mainerror> lantizia: It doesn't work like that.
[18:55] <dank101> icarus49, what OS are you on
[18:55] <ogra_> lantizia,  quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip
[18:55] <dank101> icarus49, you may need to manually do that (not that hard)
[18:55] <icarus49> @dank101 i use win 7 but i run ubuntu on vmware
[18:55] <ogra_> lantizia, from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/quantal/mwc-demo/
[18:56] <ogra_> lantizia, but it wont run on a normal android and it wont execute on something else than ARMv7 CPUs
[18:56] <dank101> icarus49, ah, i got this
[18:56] <lantizia> ok so this "ubuntu phone preview" that was released on the 21st... it's official name is "Ubuntu Touch" ?
[18:56] <grizmawe> ogra_, none of the plugins run without it though for some reason. Looking at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-qtcreator-plugins/trunk/revision/100 the lib is specified as a dependency already but that was submitted yesterday...
[18:56] <mainerror> Yup.
[18:56] <Scognito> hi
[18:56] <gianguido> phablet-dev-bootstrap won't execute if i not use the -v switch... strange
[18:56] <mrgoodcat> lantizia, yes
[18:57] <gianguido> uh, an update
[18:57] <Scognito> has someone managed to make i9100 (SGS2) images? I would try but only if no one did yet
[18:58] <pigeonor_> cant wait for verizon galaxy nexus support
[18:58] <mrgoodcat> check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[18:58] <mainerror> This may sound stupid but, do you actually close running applications somehow? :)
[18:58] <mrgoodcat> Scognito, ^^
[18:58] <mrgoodcat> mainerror, don't you throw them off the right edge?
[18:58] <ogra_> grizmawe, ah, great, then it will be in the next package upload
[18:59] <dank101> pigeonor_, there is a unoffical port on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[18:59] <Scognito> mrgoodcat: oh you did for the s3? congratulations!
[18:59] <mrgoodcat> Scognito, i did what for the s3?
[18:59] <lantizia> ogra_, right well I don't mind modifying my android - and I have ARMv7 as it's a nexus 4
[18:59] <pigeonor_> dank101: yeah, saw that but no network support yet
[19:00] <ogra_> lantizia, oh, why dont you just use it then ?
[19:00] <dank101> pigeonor_, for locked networks XD
[19:00] <lantizia> ogra_, because I want to be able to run BOTH android and ubuntu apps - I don't want to be stuck with one OS or the other
[19:00] <dank101> pigeonor_, for data that isn't even in the GSM version
[19:00] <icarus49> @dank101 Anything are ok except root
[19:00] <mainerror> mrgoodcat: uhm, I do but when swipe from the right to the left the supposedly closed apps come back. :)
[19:00] <dank101> icarus49, do you have the android SDK on your host (win7) machine
[19:00] <pigeonor_> dank101: que?
[19:00] <pigeonor_> lol
[19:01] <mainerror> lantizia: But that's the current situation.
[19:01] <ogra_> Laney, well, we dont really officially support or encourage that ... if it breaks you got to keep the pieces yourself, but i think Tassadar actually has done it already
[19:01] <icarus49> yes
[19:01] <ogra_> err
[19:01] <ogra_> lantizia, ^^^
[19:01] <dank101> icarus49, do it manually
[19:01] <icarus49> @dank101 yes
[19:01] <ogra_> sorry Laney
[19:01] <icarus49> @dank101 How will i do ?
[19:01] <gianguido> anyone know if cm10.1 builds with openjdk?
[19:01] <padme1> hm?
[19:02] <dank101> icarus49, http://liliputing.com/2013/02/how-to-install-ubuntu-touch-on-a-nexus-7-with-windows-mac-or-linux.html
[19:02] <lantizia> right but if people ARE running normal Ubuntu Desktop on their android phones with VNC or whatever - then surely it's possible to do the same but using a Ubuntu Touch filesystem?
[19:02] <Scognito> oh sorry mrgoodcat, I meant gianguido
[19:02] <agu10^> Why would i want ubuntu phone when Android has many advantages over it? Android is the only linux for which hardware manufacturers actually care! It's the only linux distro used by many mainstream users
[19:02] <dank101> pigeonor_, data won't be fixed for a bit
[19:02] <gianguido> Scognito, did you called me? lol
[19:02] <agu10^> Android is the most mainstream distro
[19:02] <Scognito> gianguido: italian?
[19:02] <gianguido> yeah
[19:02] <pigeonor_> dank101: ah ok, yeah, figured id just wait for an official release
[19:02] <agu10^> why should i pick ubuntu phone over android
[19:03] <dank101> pigeonor_, there won't be one
[19:03] <Scognito> may pm you?
[19:03] <dank101> agu10^, why wouldn't you XDDDDDDDD
[19:03] <gianguido> sure :)
[19:03] <pigeonor_> dank101: why not? it really is going to be up to the devs?
[19:03] <pigeonor_> lame
[19:03] <icarus49> @dank101 thank i will try :D
[19:03] <dank101> pigeonor_, for 90% of devices
[19:03] <agu10^> dank101, because android already works, it's mainstream, has a full API, is most friendly to users, has more modern UI
[19:04] <pigeonor_> dank101: but what about the release that mark is using?
[19:04] <dank101> agu10^, it IS android partually
[19:04] <pigeonor_> hes obviously got a toro device
[19:04] <dank101> pigeonor_, thats the unoffical build
[19:04] <mrgoodcat> mainerror, ssh into it and sudo pkill?
[19:04] <mrgoodcat> lol
[19:04] <mrgoodcat> anybody else have a better way to close apps?
[19:05] <dank101> open SSH
[19:05] <agu10^> daniel6644, really ? ubuntu phone is android partially? like for what?
[19:05] <agu10^> drivers i guess
[19:05] <mrgoodcat> yes
[19:05] <pigeonor_> dank101: so the one being worked on the site is the same?
[19:05] <dank101> agu10^, it's CM10.1 based
[19:05] <netcurli> how to close apps: https://plus.google.com/u/0/109919666334513536939/posts/ELTLYHFqNdo
[19:05] <dank101> pigeonor_, the one on the list with toro? if that then yes
[19:06] <agu10^> daniel6644, what really? why isn't it based on ubuntu desktop? I don't understand. Ubuntu-phone is more android than ubuntu?
[19:06] <pigeonor_> dank101: ok, thanks, will wait for more support
[19:06] <agu10^> daniel6644, is ubuntu phone just Unity3D on top of android, to make it look like ubuntu desktop?
[19:06] <jhodapp> agu10^, it's far more than that
[19:06] <konobu> hello
[19:07] <mrgoodcat> ubuntu touch is far more ubuntu than it is android
[19:07] <dank101> agu10^, with some QML stuff and some extra cool features
[19:07] <mrgoodcat> the android part is just to interface with the hardware. pretty much just drivers
[19:07] <jhodapp> mrgoodcat, yep
[19:08] <konobu> any1 has nexus 4 got stuck w/ error while exetuting adb push?
[19:08] <mrgoodcat> i've done extensive reading on the cm stack because i was porting it to the stingray when the stingray used to be an unsupported device
[19:09] <mrgoodcat> so after reading the porting wiki its pretty clear that only the bare minimum was kept. not much more than the kernel
[19:09] <Midasu> Any guide for install on custom device?
[19:09] <ogra_> mrgoodcat, well, HAL, libinput etc too
[19:09] <mrgoodcat> Midasu, read the porting guide
[19:10] <dank101> Midasu, make it first
[19:10] <mrgoodcat> ogra_, well obviously. all of the hardware integration
[19:10] <tushar> hello everyone!!
[19:10] <ogra_> yeah
[19:10] <Midasu> mrgoodcat: Can you give a link please? :3
[19:10] <mrgoodcat> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
[19:10] <mrgoodcat> ask and ye shall recieve
[19:10] <ogra_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
[19:10] <mrgoodcat> it was already in my paste buffer
[19:10] <ogra_> :)
[19:10] <ogra_> double even
[19:12] <mike253> so are they working on the porting guide?
[19:12] <Lloir> lol.....
[19:12] <Lloir> use the google mike
[19:13] <mike253> well lol last time i checked they werent :P but il do it
[19:13] <mrgoodcat> so who is going to be the first to port to google glass?
[19:14] <mrgoodcat> :)
[19:14] <mike253> lol google glass isnt out yet for the actual public. i believe only google employees are allowed to use it for the moment
[19:14] <doomlord> is it out yet?
[19:15] <Copephobia> Would be nice though
[19:15] <mhall119> yes
[19:15] <mrgoodcat> i know. was kinda joke
[19:15]  * mrgoodcat was wishful thinking
[19:16] <doomlord> google glass, like the jem'hadar huds in star-trek?
[19:16] <doomlord> https://www.google.co.uk/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=jem+hadar+hud&oe=utf-8&gl=uk&redir_esc=&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=48MnUZmmIem00QXXqoCADw&biw=1309&bih=699&sei=6MMnUemPJ6uX0QXq44CwDQ#imgrc=Ij_mN_Ku5TXSkM%3A%3Bd3VkYiU52SLuDM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fdoena-journal.net%252Fwp-content%252Fuploads%252Fepisodes%252Fds9%252F292px-Jemhadar_hud.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fdoena-journal.net%252F
[19:16] <doomlord> en%252F81%252Fdeep-space-nine-season-6%3B292%3B246
[19:16] <Chjjjhgghjijhhhh> wich linux kernel it use
[19:16] <mike253> lol indeed it would be nice though. especially after the teaser videos they keep releasing.
[19:16] <mrgoodcat> Chjjjhgghjijhhhh, what?
[19:16] <frogfire> anyone ported to sgs 3?
[19:16] <mrgoodcat> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[19:17] <agu10^> ubuntu is open source, right? so I should be able to make derivative distros for nexus phones. right?
[19:17] <Chjjjhgghjijhhhh> witch linux kernel the ubuntu phone use?
[19:17] <mhall119> frogfire: yes, there was an OMG!Ubuntu! post about it
[19:17] <mrgoodcat> agu10^, yes you should be able to
[19:17] <ogra_> agu10^, sure
[19:17] <agu10^> great!
[19:17] <mrgoodcat> Chjjjhgghjijhhhh, a modified version of the android kernel
[19:17] <gianguido> dinner tyme people
[19:17] <gianguido> *time
[19:17] <agu10^> can i run android apps on ubuntu phone though?
[19:17] <agu10^> i should
[19:17] <frogfire> thx i see
[19:17] <mhall119> agu10^: no
[19:17] <agu10^> why not?
[19:17] <mhall119> agu10^: Ubuntu Phone doesn't have dalvik JVM
[19:17] <Chjjjhgghjijhhhh> and witch version
[19:17] <agu10^> i demand a WINE for android on ubuntu
[19:17] <mhall119> agu10^: that's called Java
[19:17] <agu10^> mhall119, can i install dalvik JVM from the repos though?
[19:17] <ogra_> wine is there for ubuntu arm
[19:18] <mhall119> agu10^: possibly
[19:18] <agu10^> ogra_, lol really? what does it allow me to do though?
[19:18] <mrgoodcat> Chjjjhgghjijhhhh, 2.6.39.4-cyanogenmod****************
[19:18] <mike253> but guys, alot of people are probably just gonna change some code for the apps in the apk's and itll be as easy as that.
[19:18] <agu10^> ogra_, any windows software for ARM? don't think so
[19:18] <ogra_> agu10^, running windows arm binaries
[19:18] <Chjjjhgghjijhhhh> thanks
[19:18] <agu10^> such as?
[19:18] <ogra_> winCE
[19:18] <agu10^> ohh i see
[19:18] <ogra_> old crap
[19:18] <agu10^> no thanks
[19:18] <mike253> if you really want an app, try compiling it under qml and changing code.
[19:18] <agu10^> what is qml?
[19:18] <ogra_> yeah, write an app :)
[19:19] <agu10^> qml is ubuntu phone API ?
[19:19] <ogra_> qml is the markup language used in ubuntu touch
[19:19] <mike253> qml is the dev enviroment that ubuntu phone os uses
[19:19] <ogra_> for all the UI stuff
[19:19] <mainerror> agu10^: QtMarkupLanguage
[19:19] <mike253> ogra_: yep lol
[19:19] <agu10^> markup? yet another one? D:
[19:19] <agu10^> why can't we use HTML5 ?
[19:19] <mhall119> it's been around for a while
[19:19] <mike253> its actually pretty easy to use man
[19:19] <mhall119> agu10^: you can
[19:19] <agu10^> ok but i mean
[19:19] <mhall119> or, rather, you will be able to
[19:19] <mrgoodcat> yea i love qml
[19:19] <ogra_> agu10^, thats the alternative to QML on ubuntu touch
[19:19] <agu10^> why add more markups?
[19:20] <agu10^> i mean what is better about QML
[19:20] <mainerror> agu10^: Because both solve different problems.
[19:20] <mhall119> agu10^: that's Qt's declarative language
[19:20] <mrgoodcat> why restrict to less?
[19:20] <mike253> they needed something that would be different lol
[19:20] <mrgoodcat> html5 is allowed too
[19:20] <ogra_> QML is thighly tied into C++ which the whole UI uses
[19:20] <agu10^> it's like XML files for Qt UI ?
[19:20] <mhall119> yes, but without XML
[19:20] <mrgoodcat> yes kinda
[19:20] <mhall119> which is a bonus
[19:20] <mike253> yep
[19:20] <mrgoodcat> what mhall119 said
[19:20] <agu10^> why use Qt instead of GTK+ ?
[19:20] <ogra_> so if you want native apps you use C++/QML ... or you can use HTML5
[19:20] <mrgoodcat> because they needed to use the android graphics stack
[19:21] <mainerror> agu10^: More like smarter and more beautiful JSON.
[19:21] <agu10^> i thought Gnome was using C#/mono with GTKSharp now?
[19:21] <mrgoodcat> agu10^, to avoid using X11
[19:21] <danky> hello, I'm having problems installing Ubuntu touch via TWRP flashing of the zip files on my n10
[19:21] <agu10^> mrgoodcat, lol really?
[19:21] <ogra_> agu10^, mono is a pain on arm
[19:21] <agu10^> there is no X on phone?
[19:21] <agu10^> ogra_, why is that?
[19:21] <ogra_> nope
[19:21] <mrgoodcat> nope
[19:21] <agu10^> I'm sad :(
[19:21] <mrgoodcat> why sad
[19:21] <mrgoodcat> i'm joyous
[19:21] <agu10^> this means more fragmentation
[19:21] <mainerror> Indeed.
[19:21] <mainerror> X was older than I am. :
[19:21] <agu10^> yes
[19:21] <agu10^> was it bad?
[19:22] <mhall119> agu10^: Gnome is actually standardizing around Javascript now
[19:22] <ogra_> agu10^, the interpreter comes from x86 and still has issues on arm ... and every update has new probs you need to solve
[19:22] <mrgoodcat> x is too deprecated and old to run on a phone
[19:22] <Chjjjhgghjijhhhh> ohh yes X is very pld
[19:22] <agu10^> mhall119, why wtf?
[19:22] <mhall119> agu10^: because Gnome Shell and all it's extensions use Javascript
[19:22] <mhall119> so it made sense
[19:22] <mainerror> agu10^: Because it is quite a nice language?
[19:22] <agu10^> so... is there any way to write programs in C#, a real language?
[19:23] <mhall119> heh
[19:23] <ogra_> C++ isnt a real language ?
[19:23] <mainerror> agu10^: Don't kick off a programming language debate ... :P
[19:23] <agu10^> C++ is too old and now outdated
[19:23] <mhall119> interpreted languages aren't real, but interpreted bytecode languages are?
[19:23] <mrgoodcat> wish they could have used weyland. they they could have switched desktop to it as well and avoided fragmentation. but in order to use X11 on the phone they would have had to rewrite the graphics drivers
[19:23] <agu10^> yes, because writing interpreted is a pain in the ass
[19:23] <ogra_> nah
[19:23] <agu10^> excecuting is what a computer does. doesn't hurt
[19:23] <mainerror> agu10^: Last time I checked C++ wasn't outdated at all.
[19:23]  * darkdragon-001[A is now away - Reason : Auto-Away (Away from Keyboard for 30 minutes)
[19:23] <mainerror> agu10^: That's what you think. ;)
[19:23] <mrgoodcat> agu10^, you think c# is a "real" language and c++ isn't?
[19:24] <mhall119> anyway, it is what it is
[19:24] <ogra_> darkdragon-001[A, please switch off public away messages
[19:24] <agu10^> yes. mostly. of course by that i just mean that C# is much more comfortable
[19:24] <mainerror> Right, there is no point in arguing what it is the way it is.
[19:24] <mrgoodcat> how old are you just out of curiosity?
[19:24] <agu10^> than C++, where you need to make stuff yourself
[19:24] <mainerror> It is the way it is, deal with it.
[19:24] <agu10^> it being what?
[19:24] <mrgoodcat> i'm sure there will be a way to use c#/mono eventually
[19:24] <ogra_> mainerror, well, he doesnt have to :)
[19:25] <mainerror> Of course not. :)
[19:25] <ogra_> nobody stops him from reimplementing ubuntu touch in C#
[19:25] <mrgoodcat> but there isn't right now. not for graphical apps anyways. feel free to use it for backend
[19:25] <agu10^> just because Stallman says mono is a trap D:
[19:25] <ali1234> brunch failed. says i'm using the wrong version of java
[19:25] <ogra_> he might get old and grey about it ... but we wont stop him ;)
[19:25] <mhall119> Stallman says everything's a trap
[19:25] <mainerror> I don't quite care what rms thinks.
[19:25] <agu10^> mhall119, he says everything COULD be a trap
[19:25] <agu10^> and he's right
[19:25] <ogra_> rms does though :)
[19:25] <mrgoodcat> but remember, any extra dependencies have to run on the phone processor. and processing time is much more valuable on such limited hardware
[19:25] <agu10^> but what can we do though?
[19:25] <mrgoodcat> as well as memory
[19:25] <ogra_> (and he might be the only one)
[19:26] <mainerror> I'm sure rms cares about what he thinks. :D
[19:26] <ogra_> (and he might be the only one)
[19:26] <ogra_> ;)
[19:26] <mrgoodcat> as a computer science student I really don't like c#
[19:26] <ali1234> wtf
[19:26] <agu10^> why not?
[19:26] <mhall119> anyway, QML and HTML5 are officially supported on Ubntu Touch
[19:26] <ogra_> right
[19:26] <agu10^> C# is like the best language so far
[19:26] <mrgoodcat> because its owned by m$
[19:26] <ali1234> no trollin!
[19:26] <mrgoodcat> try scala. its glorious
[19:26] <mhall119> so if you want to write apps for Ubuntu Touch, it's time to start learning them
[19:26] <agu10^> i don't like that FOSS community is going towards interpreted dynamically typed languages
[19:26] <mainerror> Could we please not go down that path? Language debates don't help anyone.
[19:27] <ogra_> if you want to re-implement all of it in C#, go ahead, but do it in #ubuntu-phone-C# :)
[19:27] <agu10^> mrgoodcat, C# is not owned my m$
[19:27] <mhall119> yes, let's keep the discussion helpful and on-topic please
[19:27] <agu10^> it was created by m$ only
[19:27] <ali1234> anyone? why is phablet saying i need java 1.6?
[19:27] <agu10^> mrgoodcat, people say scala is ugly
[19:27] <ogra_> yeah, enough language discussion
[19:27] <mhall119> ali1234: where?
[19:27] <ali1234> mhall119: after "brunch <target>"
[19:27] <mhall119> what is brunch?
[19:27] <ali1234> oh lordy.
[19:27] <mrgoodcat> hahaha
[19:28] <agu10^> lol
[19:28] <mainerror> heh
[19:28] <mhall119> sorry, I'm new to all this :)
[19:28] <jhodapp> ali1234, yes you do need Java for that
[19:28] <ogra_> mhall119, usually brunch is a meal 30min after breakfast :)
[19:28] <mhall119> I hear "brunch" and I'm thinking coffee and scones
[19:28] <popey> scones!?
[19:28] <mhall119> in which case yes, brunch requires a nice cup of java
[19:28] <mrgoodcat> mhall119, you wouldn't be from the UK would you?
[19:28] <Chjjjhgghjijhhhh> i love the ubuntu phone the indicatars are very nice
[19:28] <mrgoodcat> 1.6 cups to be precise
[19:28] <pigeonor_> scones not crumpets
[19:28] <mrgoodcat> :)
[19:29]  * ogra_ proposes https://plus.google.com/112266164281670850856/posts/HWP4eeBW1di for brunch
[19:29] <dmj_nova> mhall119: java?  Not icedTea?
[19:29] <popey> hah
[19:29] <mhall119> dmj_nova: iced tea is for the afternoon
[19:29] <mainerror> Chjjjhgghjijhhhh: Yup they are. Now that you mention them you reminded me that I wanted to report a bug ...
[19:29] <mrgoodcat> mhall119, what is iced tea? i only know icedtea
[19:29] <ogra_> dmj_nova, dont argue with a brit abotu hot beverages ;)
[19:30] <mhall119> mrgoodcat: it's the second greatest drink in the world, and the only proper way to consume tea
[19:30] <Chjjjhgghjijhhhh> ;)
[19:30] <ogra_> there is also ice-t
[19:30] <ogra_> :)
[19:30] <Denommus> hi
[19:30] <Chjjjhgghjijhhhh> hi
[19:30] <mrgoodcat> correct me if i'm wrong but ice-t may also contain Ice Cube?
[19:30] <dmj_nova> step one: steep leaves
[19:30] <dmj_nova> step two: drink hot tea
[19:30] <gtt55> i'll just stay here for a while and listen
[19:30] <Denommus> how many of you have tested the device? I'm too curious, but the only device that I have that should be powerful enough to run it is a Nokia N9
[19:30] <ogra_> mrgoodcat, contain ?!?
[19:30] <dmj_nova> step three: wait a while and add ice
[19:31] <mhall119> Denommus: I have it on my Nexus 7
[19:31] <Denommus> I'm thinking about trying to port it, but since it's not android, I'm afraid of the difficulty
[19:31] <dmj_nova> step four: enjoy icedtea without the java
[19:31] <mrgoodcat> dmj_nova, good point
[19:31] <ogra_> Denommus, it is android underneath
[19:31] <ogra_> Denommus, porting is trivial if you already ported android before
[19:31] <Denommus> mhall119: I don't have any kind of Nexus
[19:31] <mrgoodcat> Denommus, android is linux. so its really not that different
[19:31] <ogra_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
[19:31] <ogra_> Denommus, ^^^
[19:32] <Denommus> yeah, I have android running on top of it
[19:32] <ali1234> how do i select jdk 1.6 then? sudo apt-alternatives <blah> or something?
[19:32] <mainerror> ogra_: The Nokia N9 runs Android!?
[19:32] <Denommus> anyone had success porting it, though?
[19:32]  * mrgoodcat moves to create #ubuntu-phone-offtopic
[19:32] <ogra_> Denommus, if your device meets the minimal reqs, you shoudl eb able to just go ahead
[19:32] <dmj_nova> n9 is meego
[19:32] <popey> !java | ali1234
[19:32] <Denommus> mainerror: I have android running on mine, on dual boot :)
[19:32] <ogra_> mainerror, it could :)
[19:32] <popey> that usually has details of setting the right jre/jdk ali1234
[19:32] <mainerror> Oh that's fancy.
[19:33] <mrgoodcat> Denommus, you have to make sure you have a CM10.1 supported device
[19:33] <Denommus> N9 is an awesome device, but I fell in love with Ubuntu Phone
[19:33] <ogra_> Denommus, if you really want to port, add yourself to the bottom of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[19:33] <ogra_> and just start ;)
[19:34] <mrgoodcat> only put yourself there if you are serious about it and remove if you discard the project (or mark yourself as no longer working). trying to keep the list updated properly
[19:34] <Denommus> ogra_: okay, then
[19:34] <ali1234> and it failed
[19:34] <ogra_> right what mrgoodcat said
[19:34] <ali1234> make: *** No rule to make target `/home/al/phablet-dev/out/target/common/obj/APPS/framework-res_intermediates/src/R.stamp', needed by `/home/al/phablet-dev/out/target/common/obj/APPS/AriesParts_intermediates/src/R.stamp'. Stop.
[19:34] <datagutt> So… how impossible would it be to compile this on debian
[19:34] <mrgoodcat> datagutt, not impossible at all
[19:34] <mrgoodcat> in fact pretty much the same
[19:35] <mrgoodcat> just add the ppa
[19:35] <datagutt> repo init with default.xml
[19:35] <datagutt> ah
[19:35] <datagutt> ppa
[19:35] <ogra_> i doubt anyone has tried it yet .... but after all its similar
[19:35] <datagutt> How exactly would i add ppa again
[19:35] <datagutt> i did not use ubuntu for ages
[19:35] <popey> !ppa
[19:35] <popey> ^^ datagutt
[19:35] <datagutt> Always a bot command for it
[19:35] <datagutt> i love bots
[19:35] <datagutt> :P
[19:35] <popey> !addppa | datagutt
[19:35] <ali1234> i love big bots
[19:35] <popey> and I cannot lie
[19:36] <ali1234> *highfive*
[19:36] <mhall119> oh man, remember the old days before add-apt-repository?
[19:36] <Chjjjhgghjijhhhh> awesome work
[19:36]  * ogra_ remembers the times before PPAs
[19:36] <mainerror> Meh it sucks, I'd like to port it to something but I have no device to port it to.
[19:36] <ali1234> mainerror: do x86 port
[19:36] <ali1234> mainerror: or target qemu
[19:36] <Denommus> I'm not on an Ubuntu machine, though
[19:36] <mainerror> :/
[19:37] <mainerror> Mhmm, qemu
[19:37] <greypoint> How do I kill a stuck running app. Twitter app is just white screen. Can't swipe up for controls.
[19:37] <mrgoodcat> apt-add-repository is a good alias but manually adding to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ isn't really that bad
[19:38] <mainerror> greypoint: Swipe it away
[19:38] <Baldyl0cks> Quick question, can Ubuntu Touch be installed no matter what custom recovery you're using on your phone?
[19:39] <greypoint> mainerror: in what direction? :) it's not responding to anything on that screen.
[19:39] <ogra_> greypoint, what device ?
[19:39] <greypoint> galaxy nexus
[19:39] <ogra_> galaxy nexus ?
[19:39] <devslash> hi
[19:39] <ogra_> you likely ran out of ram
[19:39] <greypoint> ah
[19:39] <ogra_> there are some fixes in the works for a next image
[19:40] <datagutt> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/phablet-team/tools/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404  Not Found
[19:40] <greypoint> would I have a much better experience on N4?
[19:40] <ogra_> yes
[19:40] <datagutt> ah
[19:40] <datagutt> dood
[19:40] <greypoint> ok then. off I go :)
[19:40] <greypoint> thanks ogra_:
[19:40] <datagutt> this tool must be ancient
[19:40] <devslash> i installed ubuntu touch on my gsm galaxy nexus. I'm at the login screen. its showing a circle with 14 tweets received (i don't even have or use twitter)
[19:40] <datagutt> better replace lucid with quantal there
[19:40] <datagutt> xD
[19:40] <devslash> but it seems to be locked up
[19:40] <onlychevys> I've been downloading for 3 hours now, maybe I'm half way done now?
[19:40] <mrgoodcat> Baldyl0cks, not really sure but i'd assume tentatively no
[19:40] <ogra_> datagutt, lucid is soon EOL
[19:40] <mainerror>              datagutt There's no lucid support.
[19:40] <datagutt> yeh
[19:40] <datagutt> mainerror: i know
[19:40] <ogra_> (on the desktop)
[19:40] <devslash> am i doing something wrong ?
[19:40] <datagutt> this add-apt-repository script i used for debian seems ancient
[19:40] <datagutt> i better replace with quantal
[19:40] <mrgoodcat> datagutt, just do it manually
[19:41] <datagutt> y
[19:41] <ogra_> devslash, swipe from the left ?
[19:41] <ali1234> datagutt: the ppa only has a couple of python scripts, and adb and fastboot in it
[19:41] <datagutt> adb and such is already installed
[19:41] <ali1234> you can get adb and fastboot from debian repos
[19:41] <mrgoodcat> echo "deb http://path-to-.deb" > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/<human-readable-name>
[19:41] <go> aloha
[19:41] <datagutt> this machine is used mostly for compiling cm and aosp
[19:41] <devslash> ogra_: is the gsm data network supposed to work ?
[19:41] <ogra_> datagutt, just look at the python script and mimic what it does manually
[19:42] <ogra_> devslash, with SIMs without PIN, yes
[19:42] <devslash> ok i don't have a pin on my sim card
[19:42] <moerk> which display server are they using?
[19:42] <ali1234> moerk: surface flinger
[19:42] <ogra_> moerk, surfaceflinger atm
[19:43] <devslash> ogra_: do i need to configure anything ?
[19:43] <ogra_> i dont think so
[19:43] <ogra_> just fastboot and adb are needed
[19:43] <devslash> what do you mean ?
[19:43] <devslash> its already installed
[19:43] <ogra_> the python sript is just a wraapper
[19:44] <ali1234> you've confused two people who's name starts with d
[19:44] <ogra_> oops
[19:44] <gianguido> back
[19:44] <ali1234> devslash: gsm data doens't work yet
[19:44] <devslash> when i go to any website it says it seems you are having trouble viewing gmail.com ubuntu suggest you check your network setting and try refreshing the page
[19:44] <gianguido> anyone knows how much time phablet-dev-bootstrap download gets?
[19:44] <ogra_> right making calls works, no data yet
[19:44] <devslash> ahh shit
[19:44] <devslash> oh… damn
[19:44] <ali1234> gianguido: hours and hours and hours
[19:44] <ali1234> gianguido: it's 16GB
[19:45] <devslash> is there a way to dual boot?
[19:45] <gianguido> ali1234, waaat
[19:45] <ali1234> devslash: yes, unsupported, google multirom
[19:45] <ali1234> and no idea if it works on your phone or not
[19:45] <devslash> i thought multiform is only for nexus 7 isn't it ?
[19:45] <ali1234> probably
[19:45] <devslash> i have a gsm galaxy nexus
[19:45] <cooloney> ubuntu touch rocks on my Nexus 7
[19:45] <ali1234> i don't know then
[19:45] <ali1234> xda-developers is the place to look
[19:45] <ogra_> gianguido, you mean how many downloads it had ?]
[19:46] <cooloney> do you guys know what's ubuntu-browser? webkit?
[19:46] <gianguido> ogra_, yeah
[19:46] <cooloney> ogra_: morning, man. long time no talk
[19:46] <ogra_> gianguido, not for the PPA ... but https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install?action=info&hitcounts=1 might be intresting :)
[19:46] <ogra_> cooloney, !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[19:46]  * ogra_ hugs cooloney 
[19:46] <cooloney> ogra_: missing you guys very much
[19:46] <ogra_> we miss you too
[19:46] <moerk> why using surfaceflinger?
[19:46] <gianguido> i'm downoading at 300kb/s :-/
[19:46] <gianguido> ogra_, woah :O
[19:47] <cooloney> ogra_: ubuntu touch rocks. i really like it.
[19:47] <ogra_> moerk, because X is to heavyweight and wayland isnt really ready
[19:48] <ogra_> cooloney, it will rock the mobile world
[19:48] <cooloney> ogra_: what's ubuntu-browser in the touch preview system? it's webkit? i guess?
[19:48]  * ogra_ looks forward to some tegra4 devices :)
[19:48] <ogra_> cooloney, yeah
[19:48] <mrgoodcat> cooloney, doesn't appear to be webkit
[19:48] <pretender230> anyone having trouble doing the apt-get update?
[19:48] <ogra_> (afaik)
[19:48] <gianguido> gecko? o.o
[19:48] <cooloney> i failed to run "apt-get update"
[19:48] <mrgoodcat> nm i'm wron g i guess
[19:48] <pretender230> yeah getting the same :/
[19:48] <cooloney> no such such stuff. heh.
[19:49] <datagutt> ok got the phablet-dev-bootstrap running on debian
[19:49] <mainerror> tegra4, I can't wait for those beasts.
[19:49] <pretender230> yeah, it says that it got a 404 error...
[19:49] <datagutt> was quite easy
[19:49] <cooloney> ogra_: sure, tegra4 is quite powerful. heh
[19:49] <datagutt> just needed to replace python2.7 with python, then install argparse python module
[19:50] <mrgoodcat> i'm browsing the browser src now and i don't see any webkit references
[19:50] <cooloney> ogra_:  although ubuntu touch ran quite slow at beginning, now it runs very smooth on my N7, nice
[19:50] <ogra_> pretender230, can you pastebin the whoole terminal output of the command ? (on paste.ubuntu.com or so)
[19:50] <mrgoodcat> admittedly i'm not well versed in webkit
[19:50] <moerk> okay:)  I just thougt that it might be easy if both the desktop and the touch were running a the samme displayserver.
[19:51] <pretender230> @<ogra_> sure, i';; post
[19:51] <ali1234> whaaaaaaaaaaa
[19:51] <ogra_> mrgoodcat, i asked some devs, it is webkit
[19:51] <ali1234> i ran brunch again and this time it is building?!?
[19:51] <mrgoodcat> perfect
[19:51] <ogra_> ali1234, cosmic rays
[19:51] <gianguido> ali1234, cm is fooling you
[19:52] <ali1234> gianguido: it sure is
[19:52] <ali1234> actually it prepared a bunch of stuff to build last time
[19:52] <mrgoodcat> the builder gods smiled on you this time
[19:52] <ali1234> this time that stuff tried to build, then it got to same place and died with same error
[19:53] <mrgoodcat> awww
[19:53] <ali1234> what is R.stamp anyway?
[19:53] <ali1234> i ran it again and this time it built some more stuff and then died with a different error
[19:53] <ali1234> oh i see
[19:53] <ali1234> it's doing multithreadded building
[19:54] <ali1234> so it always dies a different way
[19:54] <ali1234> but always same error
[19:54] <pretender230> i think i know why its not working....i'm running lucid
[19:54] <ali1234> make: *** No rule to make target `/home/al/phablet-dev/out/target/common/obj/APPS/framework-res_intermediates/src/R.stamp', needed by `/home/al/phablet-dev/out/target/common/obj/APPS/AriesParts_intermediates/src/R.stamp'. Stop.
[19:54] <ali1234> every time
[19:55] <datagutt> gianguido
[19:55] <datagutt> hey
[19:55] <datagutt> you got i9300 aswell?
[19:55] <gianguido> datagutt, hey
[19:55] <gianguido> yeah
[19:55] <datagutt> I was just about to build for it
[19:55] <datagutt> syncing source atm
[19:55] <datagutt> got a fast server here
[19:55] <gianguido> datagutt, me too!
[19:55] <gianguido> how many kb/s?
[19:55] <datagutt> +       CPU = Intel Core i7-2600 @ 3.40GHz
[19:55] <datagutt> +    Memory = 31.41GB
[19:55] <datagutt> +++++++++++++++++++: Memory :++++++++++++++++++++++
[19:55] <datagutt> +     Total = 31.41GB
[19:55] <datagutt> 8-core thingy
[19:55] <datagutt> hm
[19:55] <datagutt> Receiving objects:  50% (34768/68239), 39.40 MiB | 156 KiB/s
[19:56] <mrgoodcat> gianguido, i think he meant fast processing
[19:56] <ali1234> build/core/static_java_library.mk:    $(dir $(framework_res_package_export))src/R.stamp
[19:56] <gianguido> mrgoodcat, i think that too
[19:56] <ali1234> hmm this is some java thing??
[19:56] <gianguido> datagutt, great server
[19:56] <gianguido> i've only a core2duo t6600
[19:56] <gianguido> lol
[19:56] <datagutt> yeh… i pay nothing for it
[19:56] <datagutt> got some nice friends
[19:56] <datagutt> xD
[19:56] <mrgoodcat> i'm going to compile on university cluster. should be done very fast once i get around to it
[19:56] <doomlord> 31gb ram, WANT
[19:57] <mikhas> hi, trying to follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install but my problem is that I already have a Ubuntu installation my Nexus7
[19:57] <gianguido> datagutt, please, introduce me to your friends
[19:57] <datagutt> hah
[19:57] <rsalveti> cooloney: hey!!!
[19:57] <mikhas> seems that it is assumed I have a working Android installation before I can flash Ubuntu Touch Preview?
[19:57] <datagutt> well we are working on this project
[19:57] <datagutt> https://bbqdroid.org/
[19:57] <mrgoodcat> i could possibly set up a compile cluster through my web company... would have to talk to my partner
[19:58] <gianguido> datagutt, a sort of kitchen?
[19:58] <datagutt> you pay us a fee… we build android for you
[19:58] <datagutt> gianguido: except we compile from source
[19:58] <datagutt> you can choose gerrit patches etc
[19:58] <gianguido> datagutt, so nice!
[19:58] <datagutt> I am talking to the other devs about ubuntu phone support
[19:58] <Festaman> anyone try flashing back to android yet?
[19:59] <ali1234> Festaman: yes, worked fine
[19:59] <Festaman> i jsut get stuck at waiting for devices
[19:59] <VexaAE> flashing this on my nx7. how long does the Push img to /sdcard/autodeploy.zip?
[19:59] <gianguido> datagutt, btw if you're developing for i9300 let me know ;)
[19:59] <VexaAE> it's been at this for over 5 mins
[19:59] <Festaman> whoel thing took liek 10 minutes on my n10
[19:59] <dank101> gianguido, update on i9300 port?
[19:59] <mikhas> so, is there a way to flash the Touch Preview when Ubuntu Raring is already installed on the device?
[19:59] <cooloney> rsalveti: i saw you tweets in the Ubuntu touch demos.
[19:59] <datagutt> gianguido: Well i am trying
[19:59] <datagutt> seems awfully easy
[19:59] <cooloney> rsalveti: how's going man!
[19:59] <gianguido> dank101, my slow internet connection says "no"
[19:59] <mikhas> or do I *really* have to flash back Android first?
[19:59] <rsalveti> cooloney: :-)
[19:59] <rsalveti> cooloney: good, how is life?
[20:00] <gianguido> datagutt, yeah, luckly
[20:00] <rsalveti> cooloney: nvidia men now :-)
[20:00] <datagutt> I mean
[20:00] <datagutt> CM without dalvik
[20:00] <datagutt> with chroot ontop
[20:00] <cooloney> rsalveti: a quick question, how to quit a running application
[20:00] <rsalveti> cooloney: lets put ubuntu-phones at all nvidia based hardwares :P
[20:00] <ogra_> cooloney, well, look around, how do you think he feels, ubuntu touch is his baby ;)
[20:00] <sergiusens> mikhas: yes you can try something if you want
[20:00] <sergiusens> mikhas: sergiusens.github.com/posts/installing-ubuntu-touch-preview-on-the-nexus-7-with-ubuntu-on-it.html
[20:00] <rsalveti> cooloney: hud, drag your finger from the bottom to the middle of the screen
[20:00] <cooloney> rsalveti: not bad. missing you guys. heh. maybe we will meet next UDS
[20:00] <dank101> gianguido, danm it XD
[20:00] <ogra_> cooloney, swipe from the bottom ... click the search, click the X
[20:01] <rsalveti> then you'll see hud, click the bottom-left X
[20:01] <datagutt> Well i will let this sync
[20:01] <gianguido> dank101, in italy we have a maximum download speed of 20mbit/s
[20:01] <rsalveti> cooloney: yeah :-)
[20:01] <datagutt> then come back later
[20:01] <dank101> gianguido, 0o0
[20:01] <gianguido> dank101, yeah...
[20:01] <mrgoodcat> i do my compiling on dual xeon-e3-1220 with 32GB ram and a 24 disk ssd RAID array :D
[20:01] <sergiusens> mikhas: please tell me if it works after
[20:01] <ali1234> can imake brunch run one job and verbose?
[20:01] <gianguido> mrgoodcat, so jelly lol
[20:01] <dank101> gianguido, if i could donate bandwith
[20:01] <datagutt> i have 12mbit/s
[20:02] <mrgoodcat> gianguido, belongs to university
[20:02] <datagutt> and 1mbit upload
[20:02] <datagutt> and i live in norway
[20:02] <mikhas> sergiusens, will try
[20:02] <mrgoodcat> i have 30 down and 4 up. in America
[20:02] <datagutt> with people having fiber internet a few houses down the road
[20:02] <datagutt> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Cola
[20:02] <datagutt> i am drinking this while syncing source lol
[20:02] <gianguido> here in italy the government isn't really aware of internet people's needs
[20:03] <the-gibson> hmm my nx7 has been "booting" to a black screen for a while now
[20:03] <mikhas> sergiusens, if you werent working for Canonical I probably wouldn't try your instructions ;-)
[20:03] <sergiusens> mikhas: haha... but I'm not an Nexus 7 owner
[20:03] <the-gibson> any ideas how long the nx7 boot should take
[20:03] <sergiusens> mikhas: I do that with my other devices though, should work
[20:04] <gianguido> the-gibson, about 2-3 minutes
[20:04] <mikhas> I'll report back, perhaps we could -- if it works -- add this to the official install wiki
[20:04] <the-gibson> gianguido: hmm i think its failed for me then
[20:04] <the-gibson> its been ~ 10mins
[20:04] <the-gibson> on a black screen
[20:04] <gianguido> the-gibson, did you flashed the right files?
[20:04] <the-gibson> im pretty sure
[20:04] <mikhas> to be honest, finding https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install through the official ubuntu.com website is a bit hard -- if it weren't for G+ I would have searched for ages.
[20:04] <cooloney> ogra_ and rsalveti, strange, i pressed the X but nothing happened
[20:05] <VexaAE> oh yay! it worked on my nx7! total process took 20 mins.
[20:05] <rsalveti> cooloney: maybe a bug then :-)
[20:05] <the-gibson> gianguido: I did it according to the wiki
[20:05] <gianguido> try to reflash, maybe you have a bad flash
[20:05] <gianguido> or a bad download
[20:05] <frogfire> check md5
[20:06] <the-gibson> gianguido: ive tried it this am with the same result then went back to android
[20:06] <gianguido> that's strange
[20:06] <the-gibson> and then back to ubuntu with the same result
[20:06] <rsalveti> ogra_: we removed that mount proc
[20:06] <gianguido> the-gibson, 3g n7?
[20:06] <rsalveti> ogra_: that breaks the container
[20:06] <rsalveti> ogra_: mount needs to happen inside the container
[20:06] <the-gibson> gianguido: wifi only
[20:06] <rsalveti> otherwise proc with will from the parent pid namespace
[20:07] <gianguido> the-gibson, so strange
[20:07] <rsalveti> ogra_: the way to fix the adb shell; ubuntu_chroot shell; is to add support to the kernel
[20:07] <ogra_> ah, makes sense, yeah
[20:07] <the-gibson> i do have cwm on there but that shouldnt really break anything as its on the recovery partition
[20:07] <gianguido> the-gibson, respect for your nick ;D
[20:07] <ricardoa88> hello
[20:07] <rsalveti> so the parent pid namespace can execute stuff at the child namespace
[20:07] <the-gibson> gianguido: heh thanks
[20:07] <rsalveti> ogra_: we have support for that at kernel 3.8
[20:07] <ogra_> rsalveti, LXC FTW
[20:07] <ricardoa88> i don´t config network on my galaxy nexus
[20:07] <rsalveti> ogra_: yeah, but even with lxe
[20:07] <rsalveti> lxc
[20:07] <ricardoa88> help me please
[20:07] <rsalveti> the root of the problem is the same
[20:08] <rsalveti> ogra_: but we'll be migrating to lxc :-)
[20:08] <ogra_> yup
[20:08] <rsalveti> ogra_: now that we got people porting all the stuff for android
[20:08] <rsalveti> porting software to android is a pita
[20:08] <rsalveti> making makefiles by hand and such
[20:08] <ogra_> yay
[20:08] <rsalveti> can't get along with a ./configure
[20:08] <rsalveti> lol
[20:08] <ogra_> i know whty i never touched it ;)
[20:09] <rsalveti> haha, yeah :-)
[20:09] <ogra_> ricardoa88, GSM network does not work, WIFI should though
[20:10] <JasonB> Hi guys, super quick one - I can't documentation for creating a screenshot. Any advice?
[20:10] <Sephiroth> Hey everyone! I just have one question. Is there a way in the current ubuntu phone OS version to get the GSM to work?
[20:10] <ogra_> JasonB, hmm, i thought that was in the release notes (see topic)
[20:11] <Daverintus> hi, anyone knows if the mobile preview runs in another devices of the nexus gama?
[20:11] <ogra_> Sephiroth, GSM calls work, network doesnt
[20:11] <dank101> Sephiroth, all GSM works but data
[20:11] <ogra_> Sephiroth, you need a SIM without PIN
[20:11] <gianguido> Daverintus, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[20:11] <JasonB> @or
[20:11] <Sephiroth> But when i try without a a PIN code, i don't any signal, and i can't make any calls.
[20:12] <JasonB> @ogra_ - I'm not seeing it. I'll take another look
[20:12] <ogra_> Sephiroth, your SIM has no PIN on it ?
[20:12] <swift110> hello all
[20:12] <Sephiroth> Nope, i took away the PIN code just to see if it worked.
[20:12] <gianguido> hi swift110
[20:13] <swift110> happy about the release but I wanted to play with the sdk on virtualbox...is that possible yet?
[20:13] <ogra_> Sephiroth, hmm, that should work, probably a bug
[20:13] <the-gibson> hmm interesting i get a black screen and a working adb connection
[20:13] <ali1234> mka -j 1 bacon
[20:13] <Sephiroth> I live in sweden.. Could that be the issue?
[20:13] <ali1234> who comes up with this stuff?
[20:14] <gianguido> the-gibson, post a logcat
[20:14] <ogra_> the-gibson, some poeple have issues with old data on the /data and /cache partitions, you could try to wipe them and start over
[20:14] <dank101> you type : adb root
[20:15] <dank101> and ubuntu_chroot shell
[20:15] <dank101> then ubuntu-session
[20:15] <ogra_> the-gibson, though as gianguido said, getting a logcat might reveal the actual reason
[20:15] <dank101> if you have a working adb and black screen
[20:15] <the-gibson> ogra_: thanks, working on it
[20:16] <the-gibson> hmm libnvcap_video.so not found
[20:16] <dank101> it fixes it on the xperia s
[20:16] <gianguido> 813mb on 15gb, yay
[20:16] <JasonB> ogra_, It's not in the ReleaseNotes.
[20:16] <Ruubel> Well well, got a question about hardware buttons are they supported? like home back and menu buttons?
[20:16] <dank101> yes
[20:17] <the-gibson> gianguido: http://pastebin.com/PUC4yCwc
[20:17] <gianguido> the-gibson, i can't see nothing strange...
[20:17] <the-gibson> gianguido:  failed to load libnvcap_video.so (Cannot load library: load_library(linker.cpp:747): library "/system/lib/libnvcap_video.so" not found)
[20:17] <ogra_> JasonB, https://plus.google.com/109365858706205035322/posts/2r6yUSL9W79
[20:18] <cooloney> rsalveti: and ogra_ after I power off N7 and power on again, pressing X works fine now.
[20:18] <rsalveti> cooloney: right, probably a bug at hud then
[20:18] <ogra_> yeah
[20:18] <gianguido> the-gibson, dunno if it's a critical error or not
[20:18] <dank101> try my suggestion
[20:19] <dank101> works on the xperia port
[20:19] <the-gibson> does anyone have a logcat output of a successfull boot for an N7
[20:20] <dank101> Reboot to a black screen
[20:20] <dank101> Do adb root
[20:20] <dank101> Do adb shell and then the following commands: ubuntu_chroot shell ubuntu-session
[20:20] <JasonB> Awesome! Thanks ogra_
[20:20] <JasonB> Cheerio!
[20:21] <ogra_> the-gibson, do you see /data/ubuntu ?
[20:21] <ogra_> looks like the unpacking failed
[20:21] <the-gibson> ogra_: yes
[20:21] <ogra_> rsalveti, ^^^
[20:22] <IReboot> popey: I would like to suggest this very informative link be added to this channel's topic text. "Ubuntu Touch Super Q/A Thread" http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2161034
[20:22] <rsalveti> the-gibson: can you try 'adb shell; ubuntu_chroot shell'
[20:22] <rsalveti> see if you can get inside the ubuntu chroot
[20:22] <the-gibson> rsalveti: when I do that it doesnt find /bin/bash
[20:22] <ogra_> the-gibson, and are there any other dirs in /data ?
[20:22] <ogra_> or files
[20:22] <rsalveti> thansen: hm, then it probably failed when extracting the files
[20:23] <rsalveti> the-gibson: are you sure you had enough battery?
[20:23] <the-gibson> OrangeComputer: yes
[20:23] <gianguido> uhm looks like with an average download speed of 200kb/s i'll finish all the downloads in 37 hours D:
[20:23] <the-gibson> ogra_: yes*
[20:23] <bslbryan> Question: Some folks at XDA modified one line of code to make the phablet image flashable on Toro and Toroplus Galaxy Nexuses.  I'm trying to get CDMA support.  The porting guide mentions extracting system files from CM 10 and pushing them to Ubuntu.  I did this with radio and it did not work.  Any nudges in the right direction?
[20:23] <the-gibson> rsalveti: yes plenty
[20:23] <ogra_> the-gibson, that might be your issue
[20:24] <ogra_> try to wipe it and start over with the install, if there is not enough space to unpack it will break
[20:24] <the-gibson> ogra_: i have a bunch in /data
[20:24] <the-gibson> ogra_: ok ill give that a shot
[20:24] <datagutt> gianguido: hows sync going?
[20:24] <rsalveti> the-gibson: you need at least 2gb
[20:24] <gianguido> datagutt, 37 hours to finish download
[20:24] <gianguido> yay
[20:25] <rsalveti> the-gibson: usually I recommend people trying to push the ubuntu zip file again to /sdcard/ after formating /data with recovery
[20:25] <datagutt> Receiving objects:  96% (1583/1634), 172.25 MiB | 96 KiB/s
[20:25] <datagutt> so slow
[20:25] <datagutt> but less slow than u
[20:25] <datagutt> i think
[20:25] <rsalveti> then at recovery, install the ubuntu zip file
[20:25] <gianguido> datagutt, i'm downloading at an average speed of 200kb/s
[20:25] <datagutt> Ah
[20:25] <datagutt> not sure whats up here
[20:25] <datagutt> not usually that slow
[20:25] <datagutt> i got a cm10.1 repo already
[20:25] <datagutt> is that usuable
[20:25] <datagutt> usable*
[20:26] <datagutt> not sure what changes have been done
[20:26] <sburg> hey guys
[20:26] <gianguido> datagutt, i think that ubuntu servers are under heavy load
[20:26] <datagutt> t
[20:26] <the-gibson> rsalveti: thanks, ill give it a shot
[20:26] <datagutt> y
[20:26] <bslbryan> sburg: Hey there.  Welcome
[20:26] <ali1234> datagutt: theoretically you can just pull the differences from phablet repos but i don't know how you could do that with repo
[20:26] <dank101> Thats faster then me gianguido
[20:26] <sburg> im installing ubuntu on my nexus 7 :)
[20:26] <dank101> im going at 50kbps
[20:27] <gianguido> wtf, let's buy some new servers
[20:27] <datagutt> i was going to move this to a screen
[20:27] <bslbryan> sburg: what a cool thing to be able to say, huh? :-)
[20:27] <datagutt> seems it restarted the process
[20:27] <datagutt> i did repo sync
[20:27] <Ruubel> What's the smallest res. Ubuntu Touch supports?
[20:27] <datagutt> but it still started over
[20:27] <datagutt> i blame that python script
[20:27] <ali1234> phablet-bootstrap -c
[20:27] <sburg> yup and on a mac i found a way to do it online with out a vm
[20:28] <ogra_> gianguido, need the address of the ubuntu datacenter to send them to ?
[20:28] <onlychevys> I'm steady at 115 to 140 KiB/s
[20:28] <gianguido> ogra_, hahah ok then, write the address
[20:28] <ogra_> heh
[20:28] <ogra_> better not :)
[20:28] <gianguido> i'll send you some fibre cable connected directly to a backbone
[20:29] <ogra_> people might show up there and our IS guys will kill me
[20:29] <rsalveti> guys, remember, if you already have a copy of the CM repos, use the --reference option
[20:29] <ali1234> you should put it in "the cloud"
[20:29] <ogra_> gianguido, in a box ?
[20:29] <Ruubel> The speed you are getting is awsum" for some reason my broadband refuses to go over 25KiB/s this week
[20:29] <ali1234> i heard that solves all problems
[20:29] <sburg> fiber cable in ethernet cable :) awsome
[20:29] <rsalveti> that will be waaaaay faster, at it'll only download the differences
[20:29] <ali1234> rsalveti: now you tell us
[20:29] <gianguido> ogra_, yeah... a big box
[20:29] <ogra_> sburg, i prefer wireless cable
[20:30] <sburg> but i mean just to the modem
[20:30] <sburg> and free ac routers
[20:30] <mikhas> sergiusens, there is no adb stop-server, only adb kill-server
[20:30] <rsalveti> ali1234: lol, that's at the doc
[20:31] <ali1234> rsalveti: you changing it again?
[20:31] <mikhas> sergiusens, and if the server is already running, adb start-server silently fails
[20:31] <ogra_> pfft, who read docs :)
[20:31] <ogra_> (we just wrote them to fill the wiki stats anyway :P)
[20:31] <rsalveti> ali1234: not this time, no :-)
[20:31] <rsalveti> ogra_: lol
[20:32] <sergiusens> mikhas: sorry, yeah, typo... it's kill-server
[20:32] <gianguido> wooo got a dt live, at least i've something to do lol
[20:32] <sergiusens> mikhas: objective is, to run adbd as root, so sideloading can work
[20:32] <Octavian> Has anyone jet managed to  compile a Qt (C++) based app on Ubuntu Touch? Because it's missing "qmake" for me.
[20:33] <dank101> yes
[20:33] <mikhas> sergiusens, yep, that part was clear
[20:33] <rymate1234> Guys, I thought ubuntu phone was for HIGH END devices http://www.modaco.com/topic/360949-dev-ubuntu-touch-rom/
[20:33] <dank101> i did
[20:33] <dank101> nope
[20:33] <mikhas> Octavian, you are supposed to x-compile with QtCreator I guess, then upload the binary to the device
[20:33] <ogra_> Octavian, our devs do it all day ...
[20:34] <ali1234> rsalveti: is this device specific error or something with the build setup? : http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5556192/
[20:34] <ogra_> but yeah you can cross build
[20:34] <dank101> When it's "booted", it'll sit on a black screen. You could call this a safety measure to prevent people trying to use this as a daily.  You'll have to manually start Ubuntu for now, and to do that, run the following:
[20:34] <dank101> adb shell
[20:34] <dank101> ubuntu_chroot shell
[20:34] <dank101> su - phablet
[20:34] <dank101> ubuntu-session
[20:34] <sburg> at least if i screw up my nexus 7 its stupidly easy to flash the factory image
[20:34] <Octavian> I tried to use the "Build C++ project on Ubuntu device" @mikhas @ogra_
[20:34] <kumikumi_> is it possible to dist-upgrade my ubuntu phone (quantal) install to raring?
[20:34] <mikhas> sergiusens, also, a short notice that volume keys can be used to select item in those android boot menus and power button to confirm would help ;-)
[20:35] <rymate1234> dank101, well done for copy + paste
[20:35] <rymate1234> want a medal?
[20:35] <rsalveti> ali1234: build specific for your device I'd say, check who is including this app
[20:35] <dank101> rymate1234, for anyone who is sitting on the black screen and doesn't wanna open links XD
[20:35] <rsalveti> make: *** No rule to make target `/home/al/phablet-dev/out/target/common/obj/APPS/framework-res_intermediates/src/R.stamp', needed by `/home/al/phablet-dev/out/target/common/obj/APPS/AriesParts_intermediates/src/R.stamp'. Stop.
[20:35] <sergiusens> mikhas: will add... if you can please add a comment in the post and I'll fix asap (as soon as I context switch again :-D)
[20:35] <rymate1234> lol
[20:36] <rsalveti> the AriesParts, should be part of a project inside your repos
[20:36] <sergiusens> ali1234: it's generally in device/codename or vendor/codename
[20:36] <rsalveti> kumikumi_: not yet
[20:36] <ali1234> rsalveti: well afaik i got all the deps included?
[20:36] <Octavian> mikhas / ogra_ how do you guys do the compiling? do you cross-compile or are you using the QtCreator functionallity to build on your phone?
[20:36] <rsalveti> kumikumi_: we will be working on that
[20:36] <mikhas> post? oh I can comment directly?
[20:36] <mikhas> will try
[20:36] <rsalveti> ali1234: sure, but it might be something specific of the repos you added, that are building an app we don't need
[20:37] <rsalveti> ali1234: remember we don't have dalvik for example
[20:37] <sergiusens> mikhas: yup, it's disqus, should just work :-)
[20:37] <ogra_> Octavian, i dont compile QT stuff usually, i'm a more low level guy
[20:37] <rsalveti> and it's quite common for repos to require/build android specific apps
[20:37] <sburg> on mac it automaticly decompresses the zip is that bad
[20:37] <rsalveti> so we need to disable that
[20:37] <rsalveti> ali1234: that's why try to find who is adding that to the build
[20:37] <ogra_> Octavian, but i know our devs do it for their UI stuff, so its possible to do natively
[20:38] <Octavian> ogra_, hm, i see
[20:38] <gizmo_> hi
[20:38] <Octavian> i have to look deeper than...
[20:38] <ali1234> rsalveti: by "who" you mean what exactly?
[20:38] <ali1234> a makefile somewhere?
[20:39] <ali1234> i mean AriesParts is definitely from one of the repos i added, aries is the device
[20:39] <ali1234> so i just brutally hack this stuff out?
[20:39] <rsalveti> ali1234: yup, let me find you an example
[20:39] <mikhas> sergiusens, right, just didn't notice before … you've got comments
[20:39] <mikhas> I'll add more
[20:39] <mikhas> if need be
[20:40] <ali1234> device/samsung/aries-common/device_base.mk:	AriesParts \
[20:40] <ali1234> delete that line maybe? :)
[20:40] <rsalveti> ali1234: http://phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb?p=CyanogenMod/android_frameworks_av.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/phablet-10.1
[20:40] <rsalveti> ali1234: look at the first tree commits, we disable stuff not needed there
[20:40] <rsalveti> ali1234: probably
[20:40] <sergiusens> mikhas: please :-) Always willing make things clearer
[20:41] <sburg> hi oren
[20:42] <mikhas> hmph, got error messages, it couldnt find some stuff needed for restore
[20:42] <ali1234> rsalveti: the line right before AriesParts is SamsungServiceMode
[20:42] <rsalveti> ali1234: remove that as well
[20:42] <ali1234> roger
[20:42] <rsalveti> ali1234: that's just a java based app
[20:42] <rsalveti> you don't want that
[20:43] <ali1234> yup, you said before :)
[20:43] <rsalveti> yeah, just ignore somtimes, I don't even know what I'm saying anymore
[20:43] <rsalveti> hahah, need to sleep
[20:44] <ali1234> seems to be progressing
[20:45] <kaleo> Dazzozo: hey
[20:45] <kaleo> Dazzozo: I saw http://www.modaco.com/topic/360949-dev-ubuntu-touch-rom/
[20:45] <ogra_> Dazzozo, hey
[20:45] <kaleo> Dazzozo: to potentially fix the size of the UI problem:
[20:45] <ogra_> haha
[20:45] <mrgoodcat> had to close. my alt-f4 skills are legendary. my boss was staring at me, i don't think he believed i was taking meeting notes :/
[20:45]  * ogra_ high fives kaleo 
[20:45] <mikhas> sergiusens, the nexus7 complains that it cannot find autodeploy.zip
[20:45] <kaleo> Dazzozo: if you set GRID_UNIT_PX=12 appropriately in the file /usr/bin/ubuntu-session
[20:45] <kaleo> Dazzozo: it might work
[20:46] <mikhas> on the XDA forums, I found "adb push quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip /sdcard/autodeploy.zip"
[20:46] <mikhas> does that command make any sense to you?
[20:46] <kaleo> Dazzozo: as seen on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting#Screen_Pixel_Ratio
[20:46]  * kaleo hugs ogra_ 
[20:46] <mrgoodcat> mikhas, yes that looks right
[20:46] <mikhas> see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38321845&postcount=346
[20:46] <rsalveti> lol
[20:46]  * rsalveti also hugs kaleo 
[20:46] <sergiusens> mikhas: ah, I explicitly made it log that, but it's not an error... just a warning
[20:46] <mikhas> ah
[20:46] <mikhas> so not needed
[20:46] <rsalveti> awesome little french
[20:46] <kaleo> rsalveti: :)
[20:47] <Dazzozo> kaleo: yeah, I know, those builds were done yesterday
[20:47] <kaleo> Dazzozo: ah ah
[20:47] <kaleo> Dazzozo: the world moves fast :)
[20:48] <kaleo> Dazzozo: did you get a chance to try? does it look better.
[20:48] <kaleo> ?
[20:48] <the-gibson> ogra_ rsalveti: clearing my data partition worked
[20:48] <ogra_> yay
[20:48] <Dazzozo> kaleo: yeah
[20:48] <the-gibson> perhaps there should be a check in there to make sure there is enough space
[20:48] <ogra_> the-gibson, yep, already in the works
[20:49] <ogra_> the-gibson, it helped us a lot to get your info for confirming the issue, thanks sooo much :D
[20:51] <mikhas> sergiusens, is it normal to lose the adb connection from time to time?
[20:52] <Octavian> is there any reference project made in QtCreator using C++ which is able to compile on Ubuntu Phone?
[20:52] <Sephiroth> Another question. When will there be a terminal and/or a settings menu in the OS?
[20:53] <pmcgowan> Sephiroth: settings menu is there, tap the indicators
[20:53] <pmcgowan> waiting for someone to write the temrinal app :)
[20:53] <sergiusens> mikhas: I think it is on raring, many people mentioned that to me
[20:53] <VexaAE> are the apps (calculator, ski safari, etc...) supposed to work?
[20:54] <mikhas> ok
[20:54] <netcurli> VexaAE: no
[20:54] <pmcgowan> VexaAE: no, they are just samples
[20:54] <Sephiroth> pmcgowan: i mean a in dapth settings menu.
[20:55] <AstroGnomy> Octavian, I looked and couldn't find anything
[20:55] <pmcgowan> Sephiroth: there will be one yes
[20:55] <Octavian> AstroGnomy, have you been able to get something in this direction done?
[20:56] <Octavian> AstroGnomy, I even don't get qml-files running because it is missing qmlsceene.
[20:56] <Pilou_> Hi
[20:56] <gianguido> OT: anyone have a system76 pc?
[20:56] <Pilou_> i found out today that ubuntu-phone as the 1rst release out !
[20:56] <Pilou_> It rocks !
[20:57] <Sephiroth> How will i be able to update the phone? I guess that there wont be a notification poping up saying that there is updates available.. So, do i have to flash a new image?
[20:57] <AstroGnomy> I got my environment setup and pulled code from the sample apps and I'm pulling them apart for the design specifics... besides that I haven't gotten to the C++ element yet.
[20:57] <AstroGnomy> gianguido, I got the panp9
[20:57] <Pilou_> But : Did someone now if it could be done on other device than the nexusss ?
[20:57] <mikhas> Sephiroth, it's a preview, expecting OTA updates at this point … is a bit too much I guess ;-)
[20:58] <Sephiroth> mikhas, yeah, that's why i asked if a re-flash is the way ^_^
[20:58] <gianguido> AstroGnomy, how's going? i'm thinking about the bonobo
[20:58] <Pilou_> can someone tell me if this ubuntu-phone is going to be ported on other devices ? I'm sooo sick of android
[20:59] <cakofony> Has anyone successfully gotten minecraft running?  I assume it would work with the proper lwjgl libraries (for arm/linux) and the oracle jvm
[20:59] <mikhas> Sephiroth, reflashing is not too bad for devel really: you get to start from a clean slate
[20:59] <mikhas> makes it much easier to debug
[20:59] <mikhas> just be aware that constant reflashing will wear out your device
[20:59] <cakofony> mikhas: how?
[20:59] <Kyle> mikhas: source
[21:00] <ogra_> well, you have to flash a *lot* to wear it out
[21:00] <mikhas> erm, not the one that is used for booting ;-)
[21:00] <AstroGnomy> gianguido, honestly it's not to bad. I've had mine for close to four months now and I've used it heavily (12-16 hours a day) and besides normal ware it hasn't given me any trouble.
[21:00] <cakofony> all day every day for months, I think flash memory has gotten a lot better since 2000
[21:00] <mikhas> it's not meant to be flashed 100+ times
[21:00] <ogra_> its the same MMC
[21:01] <mikhas> I had devices that would stop working after couple months of development
[21:01] <ogra_> will have the same wear levelling in the controller
[21:01] <sburg> ubuntu is alsmost done on my nexus 7
[21:01] <ogra_> and you only write to it for flashing ...
[21:01] <mikhas> so it's just my experience that you should be aware of flash wear, especially when writing to boot sector
[21:01] <ogra_> yes, be aware but really it takes some 1000 flashes before it gets killed
[21:01] <mikhas> so for the Nexus7, I am fully aware that the shop price was an "investment"
[21:02] <gianguido> AstroGnomy, great! The bonobo have a great price/quality ratio. a nvidia gtx 670m and a workstation grade cpu at 1400$ is great
[21:02] <Kyle> mikhas: Eh, I'm on about 200 flashes with my galaxy s3
[21:02] <mikhas> that's what marketing tells you, yes. but here you keep flashing the same sectors again and again
[21:02] <mikhas> Kyle, good!
[21:03] <ogra_> i have flash chips around here that are in the 10000s of cycles and havent died
[21:03] <sburg> ITS DONE
[21:03] <gianguido> Kyle, are you working on the sgs3 port?
[21:03] <gianguido> wat
[21:03] <Kyle> gianguido: no
[21:03] <Kyle> If it does go boom, chances are the flash chip is dead, and they won't really know the phone is nonstock
[21:03] <mikhas> ogra_, then I probably worked on real monday devices ;-)
[21:03] <ogra_> mikhas, well, flash isnt flash ;)
[21:04] <krabador> who have tried ubuntu phone on gs3?
[21:04] <ogra_> but in about 6 years that i have worked with devices that have flash i have only worn out a few ... and if i use the device for myself theer is usually even a swapfile
[21:04] <sburg> hey any of you guys skype me to get used to this
[21:04] <mikhas> sergiusens, OK, worked
[21:05] <mikhas> I see the touch preview now, looks as if I successfully booted into it
[21:05] <sergiuse1s> mikhas: good news, I saw you made comments about fastboot though
[21:05] <sergiuse1s> mikhas: if you see the greeter with the 14 tweets you have, you are good
[21:05] <gianguido> krabador, i'm working on the i9300 port, dank101 on the att version and there's a bootable version for verizion's sgs3 on rootzwiki
[21:05] <mikhas> well, I had no other idea how to re-establish the asd connection so I could continue with flashing the two images
[21:06] <mikhas> so I kept rebooting the device ;-)
[21:06] <dank101> gianguido, can you make a git for i9300 port
[21:06] <krabador> gianguido, then for dpi
[21:06] <the-gibson> ogra_: np let me know if you need some other testing, im also interested in setting a build env up
[21:06] <mikhas> *adb
[21:06] <kumikumi_> It is possible to develop Qt applications for Ubuntu phone using c++, right?
[21:06] <sburg> where are settings in ubuntu touch
[21:07] <gianguido> dank101, i'm downloading the sources...
[21:07] <ogra_> kumikumi_, exactly
[21:07] <dank101> when you finsih
[21:07] <dank101> *finish
[21:07] <ogra_> kumikumi_, Qt + QML
[21:07] <gianguido> dank101, my connection uploads to 1mbit/s :_/
[21:07] <ogra_> (and C++ underneath)
[21:07] <sburg> where are settings
[21:07] <gianguido> i'll try anyway
[21:08] <ogra_> sburg, swipe down the top panel
[21:08] <mikhas> thanks a lot, sergiuse1s -- that was useful advice
[21:08] <ogra_> sburg, how about looking up one of these hands on videos on youtube :)
[21:08] <kumikumi_> ogra_: alright thanks, I'll have a look
[21:08] <ogra_> sburg, that should give you a quick overview
[21:08] <dank101> it'll still work XD
[21:08] <sburg> can anyone skype me too give me a tuteral
[21:10] <angelus187> Hi all
[21:10] <sburg> what do you guys recomend ubuntu full on nexus 7 or ubuntu touch
[21:10] <Everlast> Ubuntu Touch
[21:11] <sburg> whby
[21:11] <sburg> why
[21:11] <angelus187> i want to install touch on my nexus 7 tilapia... why cant i :(
[21:11] <Kyle> I'll be honest, in it's current state you won't get far as a consumer on Ubuntu Touch, not for a little while. At least, in my opinion.
[21:11] <gianguido> angelus187, take the code and port!
[21:12] <brion> so I assume the "Available for Download" section on the Apps screen is just a nonfunctional demo right now? I ask because I'm curious what the Wikipedia 'app' is and whether we should make one. ;)
[21:12] <gianguido> Kyle, it's a developer preview...
[21:12] <juicyjones> ubuntu touch is useless. it's fun to play with for a few minutes, but it's not usable in any sense of the word
[21:12] <juicyjones> if you need to *use* your device, go ubuntu full
[21:12] <Kyle> gianguido: Obviously,
[21:12] <Kyle> gianguido: that's why I said that ;)
[21:12] <Kyle> gianguido: I was responding to sburg
[21:12] <sburg> ok can i do ubuntu full using the same methed on the mac for ubuntu touch
[21:13] <netcurli> any qml developers here who can help me with this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/259510/problem-with-svg-image-in-qml ?
[21:13] <ogra_> sburg, no, its easier for ubuntu desktop
[21:13] <sburg> how do i do it on the mac
[21:14] <dank101> brb afk 30+ minutes
[21:14] <ogra_> sburg, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Installation#Manually_Installing_Ubuntu_13.04_on_Nexus_7
[21:14] <legendz> hello
[21:14] <ogra_> sburg, only needs fastboot
[21:14] <legendz> Is possible to install uBuntu on i9000 CM 10.1 ?
[21:15] <sburg> can you skype ogre_ to walk me through it because i need the step by step
[21:15] <legendz> plz :/
[21:15] <ogra_> i dont have skype, sorry, just follow the wiki i gave you above
[21:15] <sburg> ok i will try
[21:16] <ogra_> legendz, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices ist work in progress, someone works on a port
[21:16] <ogra_> (see the bottom table)
[21:16] <legendz> ok thx, have you a date of release ?
[21:16] <gianguido> no ETA
[21:17] <sburg> 3 hours to download
[21:17] <ogra_> legendz, ask the person porting it
[21:17] <zoktar> anyone tried to get this working with multirom ?
[21:17] <sburg> sorry nope
[21:17] <PhantomGamers> does anyone here have the ability to add devices to the list?
[21:17] <sburg> 10 min
[21:17] <Kyle> gianguido: mmm, how far did you get?
[21:17] <PhantomGamers> i ported it to the us galaxy s3
[21:17] <ogra_> PhantomGamers, its a wiki
[21:17] <Kyle> PhantomGamers: ah, heh
[21:17] <PhantomGamers> it says it's immutable
[21:17] <ogra_> PhantomGamers, just edit away
[21:18] <PhantomGamers> i dont see an edit button anywhere, maybe im retarded :-P
[21:18] <ogra_> PhantomGamers, you need a launchpad account and log in
[21:18] <gianguido> Kyle, i've booted it with not-so-standard method
[21:18] <PhantomGamers> im logged in
[21:18] <gianguido> now i'm re-downloading the sources
[21:18] <legendz> ok i'll do ;)
[21:18] <Kyle> gianguido: heh,
[21:18] <PhantomGamers> i dont deal with wikis often lol, not from an editors perspective at least
[21:18] <PhantomGamers> it says "Immutable Page"
[21:19]  * Kyle goes to look
[21:19] <Kyle> wiki is being slow here, heh
[21:19] <ogra_> if SSO would let me in
[21:19] <Kyle> ogra_: yeah, having that issue too
[21:19] <ogra_> Kyle, i blame LP, not the wiki
[21:20] <Kyle> yeah, the redirect from SSO/LP to wiki isn't loading :p
[21:20] <ogra_> i can load pages just fine
[21:20] <Kyle> same
[21:21] <Kyle> SSO failed, wat
[21:21] <legomaster181> Wow, my source code is still downloading, and it started at 6 in the morning.
[21:21] <ogra_> Kyle, i pinged IS
[21:21] <Kyle> heh
[21:22] <ogra_> PhantomGamers, so its not your issue, its a wiki prob actually, normally you would be able to edit
[21:22] <gianguido> legomaster181, mine too
[21:22] <ZaEarl> legomaster181, I hear it's 15+ GB.
[21:22] <PhantomGamers> ah okay
[21:22] <Kyle> ogra_: I don't think he actually logged in
[21:22] <PhantomGamers> i did
[21:22] <legomaster181> hey, I remember you gianguido :3
[21:22] <Kyle> ogra_: it redirected me back to the wiki page, but not logged in
[21:22] <ogra_> PhantomGamers, trying to reach someone to look at it
[21:22] <legomaster181> weren't you on last night?
[21:22] <gianguido> legomaster181, i remember you too lol
[21:22] <Kyle> PhantomGamers: look at the top right, does the button still say "Login"?
[21:23] <PhantomGamers> http://i.imgur.com/Kp78aO7.png
[21:23] <Kyle> heh,
[21:23] <sburg> its writeing userdata to nexus 7 for ubuntu
[21:23] <Paranoir> Hi. I'm trying to install Ubuntu Tablet on my Nexus 7, it just says <Waiting for Device> while the bootloader is on the screen. How long does it take?
[21:24] <legomaster181> Uh, you're in the bootloader right?
[21:24] <legomaster181> just verifying
[21:24] <Paranoir> Yea. With the "open Android" logo.
[21:24] <legomaster181> Have you got fastboot/adb installed?
[21:24] <Paranoir> Lock state is unlocked.. Fastboot Mode.
[21:25] <PhantomGamers> if anyone has access to the wiki and wants to add the verizon galaxy s3: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/39299-romwip-ubuntu-touch-on-d2vzw-dev-previewphantom-022213/
[21:25] <legomaster181> try typing fastboot devices
[21:25] <legomaster181> as a command
[21:26] <Paranoir> Well, right now it's still saying <Waiting for Device>. Should I just quit it?
[21:26] <gianguido> PhantomGamers, i'll add you
[21:26] <PhantomGamers> awesome thanks :D
[21:26] <gianguido> gimme your launchpad id
[21:26] <legomaster181> Paranoir you could open a new terminal window
[21:26] <PhantomGamers> phantom-o
[21:26] <PhantomGamers> apparently
[21:26] <PhantomGamers> lol
[21:27] <sburg> im getting a error it says target partition can not be mounted
[21:27] <Paranoir> nothing shows..
[21:27] <legomaster181> that means your device isn't being recognized on the computer...
[21:27] <legomaster181> I've never been good with this problem... :3
[21:28] <sburg> help
[21:28] <gianguido> PhantomGamers, device name?
[21:28] <oubountou> hello
[21:28] <MasterB> hey
[21:28] <PhantomGamers> d2vzw
[21:28] <Paranoir> Oh... I see!!
[21:28] <Paranoir> Sorry, it seems I'm just an idiot. But you gave me the keyword..
[21:28] <PhantomGamers> erm Verizon Samsung Galaxy S3, d2vzw is the code name
[21:28] <sburg> help
[21:28] <legomaster181> you could try unplugging then replugging your n7
[21:28] <legomaster181> on a whim
[21:28] <gianguido> yeah, i need the codename lol
[21:28] <MasterB> Verizon Samsung Galaxy S3 won't work
[21:29] <Paranoir> I'm installing from a Virtual Machine. When my Nexus 7 reboots, it "disconnects" from the Virtual Machine, and I have to mount it again..
[21:29] <legomaster181> I've actually been having the same problem, it just never occured to me :3
[21:29] <Paranoir> Is there any way I can start the phablet-flash without copying the whole autodeploy.zip again? It takes ages.
[21:29] <legomaster181> I installed via MultiRom, so I didn't get into the VM until later
[21:30] <Sloth> hello again all, i am trying to boot ubuntu on my Verizon toro galaxy nexus device. I know toro is not supported but is there a ROM that will work with it?
[21:30] <gianguido> PhantomGamers, you're in
[21:30] <Sloth> I got a rom from this channel earlier today and was incompatible
[21:30] <PhantomGamers> awesome thanks a lot
[21:31] <legomaster181> Sloth: you could try the port at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install#Restoring_Android
[21:31] <legomaster181> wait
[21:31] <legomaster181> not the right link :3
[21:31] <gianguido> PhantomGamers, ;)
[21:32] <mhall119> Sloth: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices#Work_in_progress
[21:32] <mhall119> there's a toro on there
[21:32] <legomaster181> mhall119: thanks for finding that, I couldn't for some reason :3
[21:32] <mhall119> np
[21:32] <mhall119> and please add any other images you find out about to the list
[21:33] <legomaster181> hey, my source code download sped up!  looks like the big parts over with maybe?  Please?
[21:33] <legendz> ddalex ?
[21:33] <gianguido> legomaster181, not mine D:
[21:33] <Sloth> Legomaster: I tried that, Phablet-flash -b returns "device detected as toro, unsupported device, autodetect fails device"
[21:34] <mhall119> Sloth: yeah phablet-flash only works with the 4 official images
[21:34] <Sloth> tried using another android rom - ended up soft bricking my phone and wiped all my backups
[21:34] <legomaster181> gianguido: it seemed to speed up after it got past the android_device_samsung_tuna repo
[21:34] <gianguido> let's hope
[21:35] <Sloth> ahh k, so i should reinstall the android rom that is compatible
[21:35] <Sloth> not the toro one
[21:35] <MasterB> anyone has an idea how to enter a pin for the sim card. I cannot disable my pin
[21:35] <legomaster181> Sloth: have you a custom recovery on said device?
[21:35] <legomaster181> I believe that zip is meant to be flashed in that way
[21:36] <kumikumi_> I wonder if anyone got KDE Plasma Active running on ubuntu phone/tablet version?
[21:36] <angelus187> anyone knows if gsm will work after full install on nexus 7??
[21:36] <Sloth> lego: yes, i use clockwork
[21:37] <ali1234> is the aries porter in this channel?
[21:37] <starks> gianguido, please add toroplus: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2159832
[21:37] <legomaster181> Sloth: Hmm. now that I take a second look at that zip, I'm not sure how it's supposed to be flashed, you may want to get someone else's help, sorry.
[21:37] <gianguido> sunre starks
[21:37] <cooloney> ogra_ and rsalveti, I just guess most pictures from Gallery probably from Ivanka's Nepal trip
[21:37] <gianguido> *sure
[21:38] <gianguido> starks, who is the porter?
[21:38] <angelus187> anyone knows if gsm will work after full install on nexus 7?? please anyone??
[21:38] <Sloth> lego: that is what i was thinking, I was going to flash it with another version like takju
[21:38] <Octavian> Hm, seems like you can't build C++ based apps for ubuntu phone :(
[21:38] <Sloth> lego: I won't get the netowrk, but should be able to install ubuntu i belive
[21:38] <legomaster181> That's a good question angelus187, I don't think it does, come to think of it I don't think it's supported at all
[21:39] <Sloth> lego: thanks for help, i will check it out later
[21:39] <legomaster181> good luck to you Sloth
[21:39] <legomaster181> dang it, too late
[21:39] <gianguido> there's already a toroplus entry in the wiki
[21:39] <angelus187> argh... I use my nexus 7 with a sim card
[21:41] <legomaster181> angelus187: Yeah, sorry, Ubuntu Touch is build for grouper (non-3g Nexus7) and the 3g N7 has a different device name, I believe tilapia or something
[21:42] <legomaster181> But when it's ready or ported, it will be released for tilapia, and that's when you'll know it's ready.
[21:42] <Octavian> How do I install qt5-qmake? --> E: Package 'qt5-qmake' has no installation candidate
[21:42] <angelus187> legomaster181:  tilapia it is
[21:42] <Octavian> (On the phone)
[21:43] <abyyser> hi everybody, is there any way how to do screenshots? can I use ddms?
[21:43] <legomaster181> angelus187: yay, I remembered it.  Anyway, I'd expect a port (if there isn't one already) very soon, as the 3g nexus isn't that far from the original
[21:43] <starks> gianguido, eng.stk
[21:43] <starks> i guess
[21:43] <gianguido> starks, it's already in the wiki
[21:44] <legomaster181> what repo is yours downloading now gianguido? I'm curious
[21:44] <starks> ah
[21:45] <gianguido> legomaster181, manta
[21:45] <mainerror> Oh hai, another Octavian :)
[21:46] <Octavian> mainerror, hi^^
[21:46] <legomaster181> mine's on android_external_htop, so if I understand it you're ahead of me :'(
[21:46] <gianguido> legomaster181, are you sure? o.o
[21:47] <legomaster181> I have no idea XD
[21:47] <gianguido> legomaster181, yeah! hahaha
[21:48] <mainerror> WHOA! Awesome, look at all those ports!
[21:48] <legomaster181> ikr
[21:48] <legomaster181> people are fast!
[21:48] <gianguido> mainerror, power of open source :)
[21:49] <tilal6991> It doesn't need that much work so yeah
[21:49] <rudra> I am stuck at /sdcard/autodeploy.zip
[21:49] <mikhas> those are not "ports" in the traditional sense, where you have to redo all the hw adaptation yourself ;-)
[21:49] <tilal6991> Literally just need to compile the sources if your device already has CM-10.1
[21:49] <rudra> can someone help - I am stuck at the following "/sdcard/autodeploy.zip"
[21:49] <mainerror> mikhas: I know. :)
[21:50] <datagutt> sync y u so slow
[21:50] <RobbyF> rudra, for how long
[21:50] <rudra> around 15 minutes
[21:50] <datagutt> 77 KiB/s
[21:50] <datagutt> was about 250 before
[21:50] <legomaster181> I believe it will take a lot longer than that.
[21:50] <rudra> how long?
[21:50] <gianguido> datagutt, i'm at 166
[21:50] <legomaster181> am I right Robby?  I didn't flash it that way :P
[21:50] <rudra> this is nexus 7
[21:50] <datagutt> gianguido: where is your server located?
[21:50] <rudra> should I not use -b
[21:50] <RobbyF> shouldn't take more than 5 minutes.
[21:51] <gianguido> datagutt, server? i'm using my home pc
[21:51] <legomaster181> oh, then never mind :P
[21:51] <datagutt> Ohhh
[21:51] <datagutt> italia then
[21:51] <gianguido> datagutt, *sigh* yes
[21:51] <rudra> RobbyF any ideas?
[21:51] <RobbyF> re-flash :)
[21:51] <datagutt> mines hetzner
[21:51] <rudra> without -b?
[21:51] <datagutt> so germany.. i think
[21:51] <RobbyF> I would use -b
[21:52] <rudra> done
[21:52] <datagutt> i wish i had access to this one
[21:52] <datagutt> http://www.hetzner.de/en/hosting/produkte_rootserver/ex10
[21:52] <rudra> lets see
[21:52] <Octavian> Did anyone successfully build a Qt-C++ app on Ubuntu Touch? please /pm me
[21:52] <rudra> how long does it usually take
[21:52] <legomaster181> I wish mine would download faster, I want to see if I can make the n7 work on landscape mode
[21:52] <datagutt> we have that server for bbqdroid but i don't have access to it
[21:52] <legomaster181> that bug is driving me crazy
[21:52] <mainerror> mikhas: Technically, those are ports. There is no "traditional" sense. I mean porting is just taking some software and getting it to work on a device/platform/animal it was not there before
[21:53] <gianguido> datagutt, what a shame!
[21:53] <gianguido> lol
[21:53] <mainerror> Even though CM did the heavy lifting here.
[21:53] <datagutt> gianguido: well the server i build one is still awesome
[21:53] <texmex183> does anybody have ubuntu phone
[21:53] <datagutt> lol
[21:53] <rsalveti> cooloney: yeah, probably
[21:53] <datagutt> issue here is ubuntu servers
[21:54] <mainerror> texmex183: Quite a lot of people in here, yea. :)
[21:54] <gianguido> datagutt, lucky you!
[21:54] <datagutt> which seems to be overloaded
[21:54] <datagutt> gianguido: slow network
[21:54] <gianguido> uh :!
[21:54] <gianguido> :|
[21:54] <texmex183> ill install ubuntu phone tomorrow on my nexus 7
[21:54] <datagutt> if it wasn't for that id have it running by now
[21:54] <datagutt> i don''t even know what repo it is at
[21:54] <RobbyF> I have the files I can host
[21:55] <RobbyF> will that help?
[21:55] <datagutt> only shows receiving objects
[21:55] <RobbyF> just for gnexus though
[21:55] <mikhas> mainerror, I am not sure x-compiling really counts as "port"
[21:55] <mikhas> or at least I find it a bit misleading
[21:55] <bbqmonkey> is it possible to dual boot android and ubuntu?
[21:55] <mikhas> sooo … how to take screenshots from this touch preview?
[21:55] <mainerror> mikhas: As long as there is no other term for that. :)
[21:56] <RobbyF> bbqmonkey, not at this time.
[21:56] <bbqmonkey> allright
[21:56] <RobbyF> its basically a second rom.
[21:56] <bbqmonkey> thanks
[22:00] <s0ppn> Hello
[22:00] <legomaster181> sup
[22:00] <s0ppn> can someone help with Ubuntu on Nexus4?
[22:01] <s0ppn> my device was rooted, custom ROM, i installed Ubuntu on VM, downloaded the packs and all
[22:01] <s0ppn> did phablet-flash -b
[22:01] <s0ppn> it pushed all those files to device, and now it's just sitting on
[22:02] <s0ppn> not recovery, but fastboot
[22:02] <gianguido> s0ppn, wipe cache and data manually
[22:02] <s0ppn> and flash via recovery?
[22:02] <s0ppn> or just wipe cache/data?
[22:02] <gianguido> yes
[22:02] <s0ppn> it does not look like it flashed anything, just rebooted into hboot
[22:03] <gianguido> wipe data cache
[22:03] <s0ppn> can I flash one of the zip's it pushed via recovery?
[22:03] <s0ppn> ok
[22:03] <s0ppn> sec
[22:03] <gianguido> flash the device's zip
[22:03] <gianguido> then the rootfs
[22:03] <mikhas> meh, is there no other way than using Android's DDMS to take screenshots?
[22:03] <s0ppn> do a complete wipe system/data too?
[22:04] <gianguido> yes
[22:05] <T-Macgnolia> Hello all I have a questinon
[22:05] <s0ppn> thank you
[22:06] <T-Macgnolia> How do you get the phablet-tools package
[22:07] <gianguido> T-Macgnolia, there's a ppa
[22:08] <krabador> what about hdpi configs ?
[22:08] <T-Macgnolia> Thanks for the answer and please forgive my ignorance but can you explain a little more please
[22:09] <gianguido> T-Macgnolia, fire up a terminal and write this
[22:09] <RobbyF> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:phablet-team/tools
[22:09] <T-Macgnolia> OK shoot
[22:09] <RobbyF> sudo apt-get update
[22:09] <RobbyF> sudo apt-get install phablet-tools android-tools-adb android-tools-fastboot
[22:09] <legomaster181> T-Macgnolia: You're running some form of Ubuntu (VM, dual boot, or main os) right?
[22:09] <RobbyF> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[22:09] <gianguido> yeah, that command lol
[22:10] <T-Macgnolia> Dual boot
[22:10] <legomaster181> just checking, you should be in the ubuntu partition if you're not alreadyu
[22:11] <ic3man> i get the following error on my HTC desire v : Device detected as primods Unsupported device, autodetect fails device
[22:11] <ic3man> what can be done
[22:12] <T-Macgnolia> Thanks guys I have been scratching my head with this one
[22:12] <gianguido> ic3man, there's no port for this device actually
[22:13] <ic3man> then how shd i get one
[22:13] <ic3man> does that mean only nexus devices can have ubuntu touch dev version
[22:13] <ic3man> ??
[22:13] <RobbyF> yes
[22:13] <tilal6991> Lol
[22:13] <RobbyF> as per what all the material says.
[22:13] <RobbyF> :)
[22:13] <ic3man> :(
[22:14] <RobbyF> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[22:14] <legomaster181> Yay!  Source download moving onto frameworks!
[22:14] <RobbyF> following that stie and XDA will provide some help
[22:15] <gianguido> legomaster181, speed increased to 300kb/s!
[22:15] <ic3man> ok thanks .... :)
[22:15] <legomaster181> Mine's sticking at around 100KB/s :3
[22:15] <legomaster181> It's annoying since my internet's much faster than that
[22:15] <gianguido> i think that someone had already done a port for i9300 and i'm late
[22:16] <gianguido> it's a sixth sense lol
[22:17] <Paranoir> Is this optimized for a tablet? It seems very "smartphone" optimized.
[22:17] <gianguido> Paranoir, it's hybrid
[22:17] <legomaster181> Paranoir, there are two seperate versions, one for phone and one for tablet
[22:18] <kumikumi_> actually, the ui "scales beautifully"
[22:20] <Paranoir> The notification bar in the top is tiny tiny.
[22:20] <legomaster181> what device you on?
[22:20] <Paranoir> Nexus 7
[22:20] <legomaster181> Mine's about a cm, a little less I think
[22:21] <Paranoir> Mine is 0.5cm
[22:21] <gianguido> i'll sell my guitars for a 100mbit adsl
[22:21] <Paranoir> By the way, how do I quit open apps?
[22:22] <Paranoir> Or is this even possible in the Dev Preview?
[22:22] <tilal6991> Swipe up from bottom of sreen
[22:22] <legomaster181> Paranoir: swipe from the bottom when on the app, then make sure to release over the magnifying glass
[22:22] <legomaster181> then tap the x
[22:22] <Paranoir> ahaaa.. fancy fancy
[22:22] <legomaster181> lol
[22:23] <Paranoir> Well, playing around, figuring out how it all works :D
[22:23] <Paranoir> Thanks!
[22:23] <DdarkSideE> Hi all
[22:24] <gianguido> hi
[22:24] <ali1234> rsalveti: make: *** No rule to make target `/home/al/phablet-dev/out/target/product/galaxysmtd/obj/SHARED_LIBRARIES/libandroid_runtime_intermediates/export_includes', needed by `/home/al/phablet-dev/out/target/product/galaxysmtd/obj/STATIC_LIBRARIES/libsecosal_intermediates/import_includes'. Stop.
[22:24] <T-Macgnolia> Thanks a ton gianguido and legomaster I have my repo going now
[22:24] <ali1234> rsalveti: this looks like part of openmax video drivers. shall i rip it out or try to fix?
[22:24] <legomaster181> T-Macgnolia: no problem
[22:24] <gianguido> T-Macgnolia, what are you syncing?
[22:25] <DdarkSideE> why ubuntu is so slow?
[22:25] <DdarkSideE> A lot of functions on menu is not working
[22:25] <legomaster181> if you mean Ubuntu Touch, there isn't a lot of optimizations yet.
[22:25] <Lloir> hmm anyone having issues getting ubuntu to display after you got it through chroot ?
[22:26] <legomaster181> but when you're not running any apps it's fine
[22:26] <T-Macgnolia> Right now I am syncing the Android stuff
[22:26] <gianguido> Lloir, me when using frankenbuild
[22:26] <tilal6991> Lloir: ubuntu-session
[22:26] <Lloir> tried that tilal6991
[22:26] <Lloir> lo
[22:26] <Lloir> ;p
[22:26] <tilal6991> What do logs say>?
[22:26] <legomaster181> any idea why I can't access my ubuntu Touch device over adb?
[22:26] <legomaster181> it's not being recognized in my vm or windows
[22:26] <Lloir> already checked tilal6991 logs don't say anything interesting
[22:27] <rsalveti> ali1234: probably not, that is useful for video decode
[22:27] <gianguido> actually, over an old frankenbuild i can get into ubuntu_chroot shell
[22:27] <gianguido> and run ubuntu-session
[22:27] <gianguido> Redirecting output to local session logs
[22:27] <gianguido> where are these logs?
[22:27] <rsalveti> ali1234: we're not building libandroid_runtime iirc
[22:27] <rsalveti> that is probably the issue
[22:27] <rsalveti> so we need to see why it's depending on it
[22:27] <Lloir> tilal6991, all i get after ubuntu-session is Redirecting output to local session logs
[22:28] <gianguido> Lloir, me too!
[22:28] <tilal6991> Lloir: Yeah
[22:28] <tilal6991> I get that too
[22:28] <tilal6991> But it works for me lol
[22:28] <gianguido> we all get that
[22:28] <Lloir> :/
[22:28] <Lloir> hmm
[22:28] <datagutt> gianguido
[22:28] <datagutt> have you considered just compiling kernel
[22:28] <datagutt> then getting blobs from 4.2 cm build
[22:28] <datagutt> replacing the maguro ones with the i9300 blobs
[22:28] <datagutt> or something
[22:28] <datagutt> could work
[22:29] <gianguido> datagutt, already tried
[22:29] <datagutt> Ah
[22:29] <gianguido> i'm on a rom called carbon
[22:29] <gianguido> replaced kernel with right one
[22:29] <Lloir> thanks tilal6991 you actually taken my thought process down a different road :)
[22:29] <datagutt> changed fstab as well?
[22:29] <gianguido> added files
[22:29] <gianguido> datagutt, fstab changes? there aren't
[22:29] <datagutt> The default fstab for the new device will have its /data partition mounted with nosuid, which needs to be removed, as certain Ubuntu applications/daemons require the use of setuid. The path to fstab is:
[22:29] <tilal6991> Lloir: You need to check the ubuntu logs not the android logs
[22:29] <Lloir> oh crap yea
[22:29] <gianguido> datagutt, uhm
[22:29]  * Lloir facepalms
[22:30] <gianguido> that's a good point
[22:30] <datagutt> nosuid stuff
[22:30] <Lloir> tilal6991, shoot me now
[22:30] <ali1234> rsalveti: delete the line including it, will see what breaks :)
[22:30] <Iktwo> I'm trying to run ubuntu-browser via ssh but I can not see it on the device, am I missing something?
[22:30] <rohan32> hi, im having a few issues with RIL compilation on Ubuntu... to anyone who can help, here is my error: http://pastebin.com/JHmeRhCW
[22:30] <rsalveti> ali1234: that might work as well :-)
[22:30] <rsalveti> ali1234: but you must be close to the end of the build now
[22:31] <gianguido> anyone knows if fstab in android is built into the kernel ramdisk?
[22:31] <fish1209> hell yes the poting page is up
[22:31] <fish1209> porting8
[22:31] <rohan32> yes it is gianguido
[22:31] <tilal6991> rohan32: Are you sure you don't have a device specific ril?
[22:31] <fish1209> vs950 here we come
[22:31] <gianguido> let's unpack the kernel again lol
[22:31] <rohan32> tilal6991, i do
[22:31] <ali1234> rsalveti: "i have no idea what i'm doing"
[22:31] <tilal6991> It's not picking that up
[22:31] <rohan32> its all in the device tree though
[22:31] <rsalveti> ali1234: :-)
[22:31] <tilal6991> rohan32: Yeah
[22:32] <tilal6991> Try mmm manually
[22:32] <rohan32> how would i build just ril?
[22:32] <rohan32> mmm rild?
[22:32] <rohan32> am i building the dameon or no?
[22:32] <tilal6991> mmm device/htc/evita/libril
[22:32] <rohan32> ok thanks
[22:32] <tilal6991> It is htc yeah?
[22:33] <gianguido> anyone knows a command to dump the kernel of a device directly via adb?
[22:33] <rohan32> yep
[22:33] <rohan32> HTC One XL
[22:33] <julien> hi, it's possible to make a call?
[22:33] <rohan32> ive done a bunch of android ROMs, this is my first foray into a different "OS" :)
[22:34] <ali1234> gianguido: you can do that with fastboot
[22:34] <ali1234> but i forgot how
[22:34] <Oli``> Anybody following questions on Ask Ubuntu tagged as "mobile" will need to switch their RSS reader (or subscription) to the ubuntu-touch tag. http://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/ubuntu-touch
[22:34] <gianguido> ali1234, actually i haven't fastboot
[22:34] <gianguido> lol
[22:34] <tilal6991> I've dabbled in B2G
[22:34] <tilal6991> That's about it
[22:34] <tilal6991> Outside android I mean
[22:34] <ali1234> gianguido: ... get it?
[22:34] <w00tc0d3> lolnoobs
[22:34] <gianguido> ali1234, i'm porting to sgs3
[22:34] <gianguido> :)
[22:34] <w00tc0d3> rip ubuntu container
[22:34] <ali1234> and...?
[22:34] <w00tc0d3> and compile custom android layer
[22:34] <w00tc0d3> DONE
[22:35] <gianguido> ali1234, samsung devices haven't fastboot
[22:35] <gianguido> only nexus line have it
[22:35] <gianguido> and htc
[22:35] <rohan32> tilal6991, when i run the mmm command on the device tree portion that contains ril, i get this error:
[22:35] <gianguido> and sony
[22:35] <rohan32> http://pastebin.com/iJ66XPms
[22:35] <w00tc0d3> and sony
[22:35] <w00tc0d3> and oppo
[22:35] <w00tc0d3> and LG
[22:35] <gianguido> really?
[22:35] <tilal6991> ZTE
[22:35] <tilal6991> Huawei
[22:35] <w00tc0d3> and liek everyone but samsung
[22:35] <gianguido> samsung, y u no use fastboot instead of download mode?
[22:35] <ali1234> wait...
[22:35] <tilal6991> Oh damn
[22:35] <ali1234> i'm pretty sure i flashed CWM to my SGS using fastboot
[22:35] <w00tc0d3> gianguido: we could cooperate on it
[22:35] <tilal6991> Yeah - it's not finding your libril
[22:35] <w00tc0d3> ali1234: cant
[22:36] <tilal6991> Where's your device tree
[22:36] <ali1234> if not, then whatever tool i used can also pull the kernel image out
[22:36] <gianguido> w00tc0d3, on the sgs3 port?
[22:36] <w00tc0d3> gianguido: yes, i9300 here
[22:36] <gianguido> w00tc0d3, fantastico!
[22:36] <gianguido> *c
[22:36] <gianguido> lol
[22:36] <gianguido> w00tc0d3, have you downloaded sources yet?
[22:36] <rohan32> tilal6991, main device tree is here: https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_htc_evita and the msm8960-common tree is here: https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_htc_msm8960-common/tree/cm-10.1
[22:36] <w00tc0d3> gianguido: yeah the android layer
[22:36] <rohan32> the msm8960 tree contains the RIL tilal6991
[22:36] <w00tc0d3> and making ubuntu chroot for compiling ubutnu
[22:36] <gianguido> w00tc0d3, i'm downloading it right now
[22:37] <w00tc0d3> gianguido: but heading to sleep now
[22:37] <w00tc0d3> gianguido: PM me here ;)
[22:37] <w00tc0d3> if you need help
[22:37] <gianguido> w00tc0d3, yeah ;)
[22:37] <w00tc0d3> I'll response tomorrow
[22:37] <gianguido> epic, thanks a lot
[22:37] <tilal6991> rohan32: I don't know why but it can't seem to find your libril in the tree
[22:37] <tilal6991> I need to go for today
[22:37] <tilal6991> Sorry :(
[22:37] <rohan32> no problem, thanks for the help
[22:38] <shaun__> is it possible to dual-boot Android/Touch ?
[22:38] <gianguido> no
[22:39] <ali1234> ah, i used heimdall
[22:40] <gianguido> trying with right fstab things
[22:41] <legomaster181> shaun__: the only I know of is for the nexus 7 using MultiRom.  Other than that, you're out of luck
[22:42] <fish1209> by by backtrack   http://i.imgur.com/azcNnou.jpg?1
[22:42] <gianguido> nothing
[22:44] <ali1234> rsalveti: build finished :)
[22:45] <ali1234> rsalveti: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5556489/ <- i just commented one line
[22:47] <AlanBell> ali1234: what were you building for?
[22:48] <shaun__> legomaster181: thanks. also after i've had a play i may re-install android. just noticed my firmware isn't listed (4.2). oops. would the firmware for 4.2.2 work OK ?
[22:48] <ali1234> AlanBell: galaxy s
[22:48] <legomaster181> shaun__ I believe
[22:48] <shaun__> also do Ubuntu want people to file bug reports... ?
[22:48] <legomaster181> it's working for me anyway :3
[22:49] <AlanBell> ali1234: cool, I have an S2 that I am thinking of installing it on
[22:49] <shaun__> legomaster181: :)
[22:50] <AlanBell> I am rubbish with phones, I don't even know where it is right now
[22:50] <shaun__> wasn't too hard to install once i realised that unlocking meant rooting. thought unlocking meant being able to use any SIM at first.
[22:50] <|aways|> can anyone help me i dont understand this tutorial ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
[22:50] <|aways|> no one have good tutorial for porting ?
[22:50] <juicyjones> shaun__ it does. unlocking and rooting are not the same
[22:51] <Paranoir> legomaster181 > Is your system horizontal or landscape mode?
[22:51] <legomaster181> portrait mode, along with every other n7 user out there with this release :3
[22:51] <legomaster181> it's a serious bug, as well as being seriously annoying. :/
[22:52] <Paranoir> Okay, then it isn't just me. Just the demo they've showed was horizontal. But I guess that only works on their own device.
[22:52] <Paranoir> sorry, landscape..
[22:52] <nazgulz666> Hi there are French? First time for me today ubuntu on dual boot PC
[22:52] <legomaster181> Paranoir: the only demos I saw were on the n10.
[22:52] <rsalveti> ali1234: awesome
[22:53] <rsalveti> ali1234: flash and try now
[22:53] <gianguido> manta is nexus 10=
[22:53] <gianguido> ?
[22:53] <legomaster181> yes
[22:53] <Umeaboy> Hi!
[22:53] <gianguido> guys i'm thinking
[22:54] <gianguido> it' possible to download only sgs3 cm10 sources with phablet bootstrap?
[22:54] <gianguido> i don't need any other sources!
[22:55] <shaun__> juicyjones: well, i soon worked it out :)
[22:55] <Seb__> Hello everyone, I a trying to flash android back and I got a critical error during the "formatting 'userdata' partition" phase. Does that ring a bell to somebody?
[22:55] <datagutt> w00tc0d3: another i9300 guy
[22:55] <datagutt> hai
[22:55] <Umeaboy> I'm thinking about adding support for my Samsung Galaxy Tab, modelname P1000 to boot the preview of Ubuntu.
[22:55] <datagutt> i am still syncing sauces
[22:55] <Umeaboy> Can I help in some way to make that real?
[22:55] <Umeaboy> I have flashed latest CM Nightly.
[22:55] <datagutt> i could build in 10min
[22:55] <|aways|> guys can anyone help me to port ubuntu on SGS ?
[22:55] <datagutt> but network so slow
[22:56] <Umeaboy> Seb__: Hi! Can you get to Download-mode?
[22:56] <Umeaboy> Then reset it with an original ROM.
[22:57] <gianguido> nope guys? no advices? D:
[22:57] <corbet> Looking for the right place to report this: the galaxy nexus image I installed today seems to have a lot of personal information - email and phone numbers - stored in it.  Was that deliberate?
[22:57] <|aways|> guys can anyone help me to port ubuntu on SGS ?
[22:57] <gianguido> corbet, yes
[22:57] <legomaster181> yes corbet
[22:58] <legomaster181> it's to show how all the info looks on the os
[22:58] <legomaster181> notifications, email, etc
[22:58] <cdnl> corbet: check out the ubuntu site for how to remove them
[22:58] <gianguido> any repo guru?
[22:58] <legomaster181> and yes, we all got the 14 tweets :3
[22:58] <corbet> cdnl: they don't bug me, I was just afraid something had leaked from a developer's phone
[22:58] <frisklund> Hi all. I just tested the ubuntu touch preview on a Nexus 7 and am now trying to convert back to stock android.
[22:59] <nazgulz666> Hi can you help me I have a problem on the final phase of the installation on Galaxy Nexus 4.2.2 (phablet-flash-b) I have a problem with download please
[22:59] <legomaster181> frisklund: what's the problem?
[22:59] <gianguido> repo reads the device's source to download from manifest.xml?
[22:59] <frisklund> As described here (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install?action=show&redirect=TouchInstallProcess#Restoring_Android) are we supposed to boot into recovery mode (or whatever it's called, power+volumeup/down)?
[23:00] <nazgulz666> (phablet-flash -b) : yes Starting new HTTP connection (1): cdimage.ubuntu.com Download directory set to /home/ubuntu/Téléchargements/phablet-flash/95 error: device offline Error while excetuting adb shell getprop ro.cm.device Make sure the device is connected and viewable by running ‘adb devices’ Ensure you have a root device, one which running ‘adb root’ does not return an error
[23:00] <Sumit> My Galaxy Nexus is really laggy after the installation..is it just mine?
[23:00] <legomaster181> if you mean bootloader, I believe you are
[23:00] <legomaster181> you download the fine, boot into bootloader, then run flash-all.sh
[23:00] <legomaster181> *file
[23:01] <frisklund> @legomaster181, OK thanks. It's not clear from the description on the wiki. Initially I thought I needed to boot into Ubuntu, but after I while I thought that didn't make any sence ;-)
[23:01] <gianguido> http://slightlymorethanworthless.blogspot.it/2011/05/remove-unwanted-devices-from.html this can be useful!
[23:01] <legomaster181> it actually says on there, to type adb reboot-bootloader
[23:01] <wastrel> Sumit: people have been saying that it runs poorly on gnex
[23:02] <legomaster181> that reboots to it, but you can do it manuall as you said
[23:02] <wastrel> Sumit: but very well on nexus 4
[23:02] <legomaster181> *manually
[23:02] <|aways|> can anyone help me to port ubuntu on SGS ?
[23:02] <gianguido> |aways|, there's a port going on
[23:02] <frisklund> @legomaster181, YES! it does. silly me! Thanks very much for the explanation!!
[23:02] <|aways|> gianguido: i dont understand this tutorial
[23:02] <legomaster181> np, good luck
[23:02] <nazgulz666> okand after that I realized I flash all.sh into bootloader?
[23:03] <gianguido> |aways|, you need to know a bit of android compiling
[23:03] <Sumit> Wastrel : ohh...not a great News..I got galaxy Nex , just to try ubuntu up.....
[23:03] <|aways|> lol gianguido
[23:03] <nazgulz666> SORRY FOR THE SLOW I'm French
[23:03] <|aways|> gianguido: check here how much rom thread i'll have http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=665
[23:04] <gianguido> |aways|, good, so follow the port wiki page and port!
[23:04] <gianguido> :)
[23:04] <|aways|> hahah omg you are helpfull!
[23:07] <gianguido> finally downloading android stuff!
[23:08] <frisklund> @legomaster181,  now booting into android again, so everything works just fine! Thanks again!
[23:08] <fish1209> i have to many phones i dont know wich one to work on
[23:08] <legomaster181> gianguido: like what?
[23:08] <gianguido> external_busybox
[23:08] <bef0rd> M4rtinK: yes :) if it works I'll be able to package my Transmission Remote application for bb10
[23:08] <gianguido> and it's speedy!
[23:09] <legomaster181> wow, I'm a lot farther than you :3
[23:09] <bef0rd> M4rtinK: oh yea, I was going to ask, do you notice any performance issue ?
[23:09] <gianguido> legomaster181, luky you hahah
[23:09] <legomaster181> you can go to phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb to see what order they're going to be downloaded in
[23:09] <legomaster181> it's downloading in the order it's in on that site
[23:09] <M4rtinK> bef0rd: wrong channel :)
[23:09] <legomaster181> I'm on android_frameworks_av :3
[23:09] <bef0rd> lol
[23:10] <bef0rd> just noticed
[23:10] <gianguido> thanks legomaster181
[23:10] <legomaster181> np
[23:11] <gianguido> hoping to get code for tomorrow
[23:11] <legomaster181> I'm hoping for today :3  I've still got like 7 hours
[23:11] <legomaster181> till I go to bed
[23:11] <gianguido> (wth, my english become worse every message i send there lol)
[23:12] <gianguido> legomaster181, you're american?
[23:12] <legomaster181> yush :P
[23:12] <nazgulz666> someone will have a link  phablet-fash -b to galaxy nexus 4.2.2 ?
[23:12] <gianguido> legomaster181, yush means yes? lol
[23:12] <legomaster181> yeah :3
[23:13] <gianguido> we are 5 hours distant lol
[23:13] <legomaster181> what device you flashing again?
[23:14] <nazgulz666> ^^ i am alone French here ?
[23:14] <gianguido> i think nazgulz666
[23:15] <GuidoPallemans> c'est 0:44 nazgulz666
[23:15] <nazgulz666> thx gianguido
[23:15] <gianguido> je suis italien lol
[23:15] <GuidoPallemans> oo 0:14 *
[23:15] <GuidoPallemans> belge
[23:15] <ic3man> any way to enable a new device not supported in the cyanogen mod official list
[23:15] <ic3man> ??
[23:15] <nazgulz666> oh un belge !!
[23:15] <legomaster181> yes, but it gets more difficult when it's not compatible with cyanogen 10.1
[23:16] <GuidoPallemans> nazgulz666: oui, oui, extraordinaire, n'est-ce pas?
[23:16] <gianguido> oh, in italy there's a site where i can buy a nexus 4 for 419€...
[23:16] <GuidoPallemans> flamand encore
[23:16] <GuidoPallemans> amazon.de
[23:16] <GuidoPallemans> amazon.com
[23:16] <gianguido> GuidoPallemans, to buy a nexus 4?
[23:16] <GuidoPallemans> anazon.com
[23:17] <nazgulz666> oui en clair on peut pas télecharger manuellement lefameux phablet manuellement
[23:17] <GuidoPallemans> but I haven't done it yet
[23:17] <gianguido> aw god guys, speak english :P
[23:17] <legomaster181> ikr
[23:17] <darthmuffins> comment dit on telecharger en anglais?
[23:17] <legomaster181> what if they're talking about us o.o
[23:17] <legomaster181> lol
[23:17] <gianguido> lol they aren't i know a bit of french
[23:17] <GuidoPallemans> nazgulz666: c'est possible de parler en englais maintenant, ces frainces commentes me coutent trop de temps..
[23:18] <legomaster181> I guessed, I'm just being paranoid :3
[23:18] <gianguido> lol
[23:18] <nazgulz666> sorry
[23:18] <gianguido> e se inizio a parlare italiano?
[23:18] <gianguido> lol
[23:18] <GuidoPallemans> ces comm. francaices...
[23:18] <legomaster181> *sniff* I'm all alone
[23:19] <juicyjones> Received lag check reply from (null). Time elapsed: 0.19392 seconds. (Rating: Almost No Lag.)
[23:19] <corbet> gianguido: si va bene, parliamo italiano!
[23:19] <gianguido> corbet, hahahaha
[23:19] <gianguido> legomaster181, forever alone, there's another italian there!
[23:19]  * GuidoPallemans opens google translate...
[23:19] <gianguido> haha
[23:19] <digitalfiz> so the flashing tool flashes clockwork mod
[23:19] <nazgulz666> ^^ thx google
[23:21] <legomaster181> was it something I said? XD
[23:21] <T-Macgnolia> I am looking at the http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Devices#vendor="Samsung"; and it does not have the T-Mobile Galaxy Note II listed
[23:22] <gianguido> T-Macgnolia, maybe isn't supported
[23:22] <gianguido> 33mb of htop... well, that's strange
[23:22] <ali1234> gianguido: do you know where the sgs port is actually being done?
[23:23] <gianguido> ali1234, no
[23:23] <T-Macgnolia> But the stock Deodexed 4.2.1 ROM I am running has tOLte in the build.prop I guess i should be good to go with that one what do uyou guys thin
[23:23]  * fish1209 wonders how many devices will get bricked
[23:23] <gianguido> fish1209, no device will be bricked :P
[23:23] <darthmuffins> has anyone attempted to put together a build for x86?
[23:23] <fish1209> lol
[23:24] <ali1234> rsalveti: just backing up device... then i'll flash the zip i just built with CWM... but how do i get the ubuntu-chroot onto the device?
[23:24] <darthmuffins> (ie: end goal is a vm on desktop)
[23:24] <rsalveti> ali1234: flash this zip and the ubuntu zip
[23:24] <ali1234> darthmuffins: not yet, it needs much more work... all ubuntu packages must be rebuilt
[23:24] <rsalveti> reboot and be happy (hopefully
[23:25] <darthmuffins> ali1234: rebuilding all the ubuntu packages shouldn't be hard... but recompiling the kernel it currently uses might be
[23:26] <dank101> im back :D
[23:26] <gianguido> ohai
[23:26] <ali1234> darthmuffins: well there's a few way you could go about it
[23:26] <dank101> was testing ingress
[23:26] <darthmuffins> or perhaps it'd be easier to get the ubuntu packages to run with the mainline ubuntu kernel
[23:26] <ali1234> that's one way
[23:26] <nazgulz666> the belge ? il y a un pivé ici genre <pseudo>
[23:26] <darthmuffins> ali1234: do you have suggestions?
[23:26] <corbet> Allora ragazzi, c'è una birra che mi sta chiamando...buona sera a tutti!
[23:27] <dank101> progress on i9300 port?
[23:27] <gianguido> dank101, my internet connection say "no"
[23:27] <RobbyF> Anything new in the ubuntu-phone world since yesterday?
[23:27] <schreda> hey guys...
[23:27] <dank101> it's not you
[23:27] <dank101> hey
[23:27] <RobbyF> hi
[23:28] <wastrel> hey girl how you doin
[23:28] <nazgulz666> phablet-flash/95/quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip i am happy
[23:28] <schreda> did someone already use the dev kit?
[23:28] <schreda> for ubuntu mobile
[23:28] <schreda> ?
[23:28] <dank101> my internet took 3 hours to get the cm10.1 for nexus 10 from the ubuntu servers
[23:28] <dank101> and my internet is 50mbps
[23:28] <gianguido> dank101, my is 10mbps
[23:29] <gianguido> *mine
[23:29] <nazgulz666> did someone already use the dev kit? no for me
[23:29] <RobbyF> mines 75mbit
[23:29] <gianguido> wtf...
[23:29] <schreda> is actually opengles 2.0 supported?
[23:30] <duce> any recommendation for trying to get an unsupported device recognized by qtcreator?
[23:30] <duce> unsupported in terms of ubuntu touch
[23:30] <duce> (android ofc)
[23:30] <_5m0k3> Side stage on Nexus 7: https://plus.google.com/u/0/110587021591787005452/posts/HABB6LDYve3
[23:31] <schreda> ah right ubuntu is using the same drivers so should be fine with opengles 2.0
[23:31] <_5m0k3> Just need to figure out how to get it in landscape
[23:31] <schreda> right?
[23:31] <dillyfro> a
[23:32] <schreda> so next question which other programming languages are supported except C++ and fucking javascript
[23:32] <gianguido> bed time guys, see you tomorrow
[23:32] <gianguido> thanks for the great time :)
[23:32] <RobbyF> bash shell
[23:32] <doomlord> not a bad mix surely
[23:32] <doomlord> C++ for real programs, and JS for ui scriptng, what more do you need
[23:33] <schreda> how about c++ for gui
[23:33] <schreda> why I need damn javascrit
[23:33] <schreda> javascript
[23:33] <schreda> suxx totally ...
[23:33] <doomlord> ah that is a question i have, what environment do you get with c++/native code.. what libraries
[23:33] <doomlord> how does your C++ code interact with the rest of the system
[23:34] <ali1234> doomlord: Qt5, C++ standard libraries
[23:34] <ali1234> doomlord: egl, dbus stuff
[23:34] <doomlord> egl .. thats what i'm after
[23:34] <ali1234> doomlord: pretty much what you would find on regular ubuntu, except for X11 stuff
[23:34] <matthewsm> Hi
[23:34] <doomlord> egl: what is this specifically over gl|es
[23:34] <schreda> man someone wrote the damn javascript binding anyway... and at the end its all about libraries...but I prefer c, c++ over some scripting shit.
[23:35] <matthewsm> Starting new HTTP connection (1): cdimage.ubuntu.com Download directory set to /home/matthew/Downloads/phablet-flash/95 Device detected as toro Unsupported device, autodetect fails device
[23:35] <doomlord> can you get raw touch events
[23:35] <matthewsm> What does this mean?
[23:35] <ali1234> QML isn't totally horrible... i quite like it
[23:35] <RobbyF> matthewsm, it means your toro isn't supported
[23:35] <RobbyF> your version of nexus doesn't apply
[23:35] <ali1234> matthewsm: it means your device is not officially supported
[23:35] <doomlord> i dont know qml in detail but the principle seems soound
[23:35] <dank101> gia
[23:36] <darthmuffins> qml is an excellent frontend lang... reminds me of WPF minus the MS suckage
[23:36] <schreda> probably I need to try it out in more detail but I'm also a big fan of GNUSTEP and plain C
[23:36] <dank101> nvm
[23:36] <matthewsm> :o But I downloaded the ubuntu mobile image for this device
[23:36] <doomlord> plain C rocks
[23:36] <schreda> agree
[23:36] <doomlord> C++ can be nice, if you get the subset you like
[23:36] <RobbyF> matthewsm, you might be able to flash https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#yakju
[23:37] <RobbyF> obviously your radio won't work.
[23:37] <schreda> I like C++ too but I still prefer plain C and in case I need OOP I use gnustep... and write my own wrapper stuff...
[23:37] <matthewsm> ok, thank you, I will read this
[23:37] <schreda> you are right I think
[23:37] <Kalzar> Hi
[23:37] <schreda> so Opengles 2.0 is supported... right ? still waiting for a yes
[23:37] <schreda> or no
[23:38] <matthewsm> Robby, this is my device "4.1.1 (JRO03O)"
[23:38] <doomlord> there's so much of C++ i do like, but a lot of code i write would be called C
[23:38] <doomlord> even though it requires a C++ compiler..
[23:38] <RobbyF> matthewsm, yes but it's not on a supported ROM.
[23:38] <schreda> does QT come with some opengles view?
[23:38] <Sam___> hey guys
[23:38] <brion> are there any docs yet on HTML/JavaScript app system integration interfaces? or at least how to package up a web-based app to have a launcher icon?
[23:38] <Sam___> can someone help meplease?
[23:38] <matthewsm> It is right there on that page under the yakju
[23:38] <ali1234> schreda: Qt3D should be available
[23:38] <RobbyF> yes, but flash that version.
[23:39] <RobbyF> you have the toro version.
[23:39] <matthewsm> Ok, I will
[23:39] <matthewsm> does it matter which version? 4.1.2? 4.2.2?
[23:39] <RobbyF> whats up Sam___
[23:39] <RobbyF> matthewsm, nope
[23:40] <schreda> so opengl
[23:40] <krabador> hey, what about physical buttons, like home in galaxy s/s2/s3/note/note2/ace/ace2 ?
[23:40] <matthewsm> RobbyF, got it
[23:40] <RobbyF> but when you restore back to android you'll need the Toro laterst.
[23:40] <schreda> is supported instead of subset of opengl -> opengles?
[23:40] <Sam___> I've done the "phablet-flash" but then it says: error device not found
[23:40] <matthewsm> Would it be better to wait for toro to be supported?
[23:40] <Sam___> and there is no device in "adb devices"
[23:40] <Sam___> why?
[23:41] <RobbyF> matthewsm, it won't be official supported, I wouldnt' wait
[23:41] <matthewsm> Are you in fast boot?
[23:41] <Sam___> yes
[23:41] <RobbyF> besides it's just a preview.
[23:41] <wastrel> :[
[23:41] <matthewsm> I understand
[23:41] <RobbyF> Sam___, make sure your phone is in dev mode.
[23:41] <duce> we need samsung galaxy S 1-3 support :)
[23:41] <matthewsm> and in fastboot?
[23:41] <dank101> matthewsm, just do it
[23:42] <RobbyF> duce, it's on it's way unofficially.
[23:42] <Sam___> dev mode?
[23:42] <duce> RobbyF, \:D/
[23:42] <duce> RobbyF, makes me SOOOOO happy
[23:42] <RobbyF> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[23:42] <dank101> duce, wait the S1 international and s3 international are being worked on
[23:42] <wastrel> \☺ /
[23:42] <ali1234> dank101: do you know who is working on s1?
[23:42] <duce> I have a samsung galaxy S 1 (international) phone
[23:43] <RobbyF> Sam___, you read this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[23:43] <duce> wow that list has grown :D since early today
[23:43] <RobbyF> s1 will probably not run very smooth.
[23:43] <dank101> ali1234, his email is ddalex+ut [at] gmail [dot] com
[23:43] <RobbyF> my galaxy uses like 600MB of ram.
[23:43] <matthewsm> dank101, RobbyF, Still same error. My device is not supported o.O
[23:43] <schreda> are there plain c libs available for touch events?
[23:43] <duce> ReWired, why not?
[23:44] <dank101> matthewsm, toro?
[23:44] <matthewsm> yes
[23:44] <ali1234> dank101: is he xda-developers?
[23:44] <dank101> ali1234, idk
[23:44] <RobbyF> probably manually flash then.
[23:44] <duce> RobbyF,  why not?
[23:44] <krabador> hey, what about physical buttons, like home in galaxy s/s2/s3/note/note2/ace/ace2 ?
[23:44] <rohan32> has anyone successfully build for a device that uses a custom RIL class in their device tree?
[23:44] <matthewsm> hmm
[23:44] <ali1234> krabador: u don't need them
[23:44] <ali1234> krabador: use gestures :P
[23:44] <rohan32> I'm having some issue with the buildsystem not being able to find it
[23:44] <RobbyF> duce, hardly enough ram. system is a pig.
[23:44] <dank101> matthewsm, use TWRP recovery to manually flash the zips
[23:45] <Sam___> do you mean the developer options thing? activating the debugging mode?
[23:45] <RobbyF> yes
[23:45] <krabador> ali1234, really??? great, and they works good enough?
[23:45] <duce> :(
[23:45] <schreda> does freeglut also wor to create an content on ubuntu mobile?
[23:46] <matthewsm> ok, I will
[23:46] <matthewsm> thanks
[23:46] <rohan32> I'm having an issue with the buildsystem not being able to find the RIL class in my device tree... if anyone cares to help, please see this build error:
[23:46] <rohan32> http://pastebin.com/i1KjP01v
[23:46] <ali1234> krabador: that's a matter of opinion, but it is designed for devices with no bttons at all, except power
[23:46] <rsalveti> ali1234: did it work for you?
[23:46] <rohan32> My device provides libril from the device tree, but for some reason it isn't able to find that
[23:47] <krabador> ali1234, it seems the power don't works yet on galaxy nexus
[23:47] <rohan32> I've tried using CM's hardware/ril directly without the one change the Ubuntu Touch team made to that repo, and still its a no go
[23:47] <krabador> ali1234, i've fear in a possible galaxy s2 porting (that i'm really waiting for )
[23:47] <ali1234> rohan32: i had loads of build errors like that
[23:48] <ali1234> well, two
[23:48] <rohan32> did you manage to fix it?
[23:48] <ali1234> rohan32: basically loads of stuff removed from CM to make it smaller
[23:48] <ali1234> your device has dependency on something that was removed
[23:48] <krabador> then, somebody thinks to port ubuntu touch on galaxy s2?
[23:48] <Sam___> where do I get the "Ubuntu Nexus7 Installer"?
[23:48] <rohan32> yeah
[23:48] <ali1234> you must find and remove this dependency, preferably without breaking the code
[23:48] <rohan32> yes, i know haha, just wondering what the dependency was ;)
[23:48] <ali1234> basically, grep for the missing thing to find what is pulling it is
[23:48] <Sam___> I've done it with an instruction which uses that one
[23:48] <rohan32> already did
[23:49] <rohan32> seems like most of it is from hardware/ril
[23:49] <ali1234> it's going to be something in one of the repos you added
[23:49] <ali1234> beyond that i don't know
[23:50] <matthewsm> dank101, What would happen if I installed the toro 4.1.1 (JRO03O) image?
[23:51] <Sam___> they said I can just type it in the dash on the Ubuntu PC..but there is nothing
[23:51] <dank101> matthewsm, it doesn't matter
[23:51] <matthewsm> got it
[23:51] <dank101> matthewsm, Use CWM to flash the files
[23:51] <matthewsm> just installed twrp
[23:51] <matthewsm> now I need CWM!?
[23:54] <rohan32> by the way, how do i get added to the device porting page on the wiki?
[23:54] <rohan32> a friend of mine was added today on his wip rom :)
[23:54] <rohan32> though his port isn't booting yet
[23:55] <RobbyF> rohan32, on that page there is a submission link or email.
[23:55] <dank101> matt CWM or TWRP XD
[23:55] <schreda> anyway thanks for talking regards
[23:56] <wgrant> rohan32: You can add yourself to the WIP section of that page yourself
[23:56] <hourd> has anyone managed to dual boot android and ubuntu touch?
[23:56] <dank101> hourd: yes
[23:56] <dank101> some guys on XDA
[23:56] <dank101> nexus7 only
[23:56] <hourd> thats what i want it for :)
[23:56] <wgrant> The MultiROM guy had a version that works with Ubuntu Touch just a few hours after the previous was released
[23:57] <dank101> Yeah
[23:57] <hourd> the v8?
[23:57] <dank101> yeah
[23:57] <dank101> latest
[23:57] <hourd> hmmmm, i have that and couldnt seem to get it to work
[23:58] <turizm> asl
[23:58] <dank101> change atleast now to LINUX
[23:58] <turizm> GNU/Linux
[23:58] <RobbyF> 54/M/Your driveway
[23:58] <dank101> use android as the ROM
[23:59] <hourd> dank101: just a stock android?
[23:59] <dank101> if it's BLSOD (black screen of death) there is a fi
[23:59] <dank101> *fix
[23:59] <dank101> CM10.1
[23:59] <turizm> I successfully ported ubuntu touch to the nokia 3310. thank you canonical
[23:59] <dank101> :O