[03:30] <Oblivion1500> hello i have a recently installed version of ubuntu server long term and i was wondering if there was some sort of firewall installed by default that my not be allowing me ssh access to it
[03:30] <Oblivion1500> though, i am able to access it locally... well that was a dumb question
[03:30] <sarnold> Oblivion1500: there's the ufw front end to raw iptables ...
[03:31] <Oblivion1500> will that allow local connections but not public?
[03:31] <sarnold> it may..
[03:32] <Oblivion1500> how do i change settings for it?
[03:32] <sarnold> Oblivion1500: check "sudo ufw status" output for information...
[03:32] <Oblivion1500> ok
[03:33] <Oblivion1500> and it is inactive, great i have done almost everything i can to get ssh working.. i dont know what im doing wrong i have even gone to the extent of putting my router in dmz then from there my server in dmz
[03:34] <sarnold> Oblivion1500: does netstat -nl | grep :22 show sshd accepting connections from 0.0.0.0:*?
[03:38] <Oblivion1500> interesting, let me give you a screen shot, it doesent show it now but i beleave i did it before and it did,, though im also trying to ftp into it and that doesent work and 21 is showing up.. let me get that screenshot
[03:39] <devral> my server is acting really weird. it's taking a long time to execute commands. I did an strace on "echo hi" and it took 5 seconds to execute "brk(0) = 0x1594000" this just randomly started happening.
[03:39] <Oblivion1500> http://imgur.com/8uMSpVI
[03:40] <sarnold> devral: check free output to see if you're deep into swap; vmstat 1 will show you swap in and swap out traffic
[03:41] <Oblivion1500> depending on how much ram i have i usually set swap to 10 or 0
[03:41] <sarnold> Oblivion1500: ps auxw | grep ssh    -- that's odd, looks like sshd might not even be running.
[03:42] <Oblivion1500> that is a screen shot of me using ssh to log into that server, locally of course
[03:44] <Oblivion1500> http://imgur.com/KV3HTuP
[03:45] <sarnold> Oblivion1500: heh, indeed -- there's no process 2832. You'd expect to see a line like this one:
[03:45] <sarnold> root      1200  0.0  0.0  49968  2828 ?        Ss   Feb19   0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd -D
[03:45] <Oblivion1500> so can you tell me how to fix it?
[03:47] <sarnold> Oblivion1500: I'd try another "service sshd restart" command..
[03:47] <sarnold> Oblivion1500: chcek the logs if it doesn't start
[03:47] <Oblivion1500> it doesent see it as a service...
[03:48] <Oblivion1500> how does the daemon not come with openssh
[03:48] <Oblivion1500> wtf lol
[03:49] <sarnold> Oblivion1500: oh, my fault. "service ssh restart"
[03:50] <Oblivion1500> nothing, actually did this, ill get you a screen
[03:52] <Oblivion1500> http://imgur.com/6anRmJ4
[03:54] <Oblivion1500> also if the service is restarted shouldnt i get disconected from the server?
[03:54] <Oblivion1500> like what happens if i do: ssh restart
[03:55] <sarnold> Oblivion1500: no, it only kills te listening daemon
[03:55] <Oblivion1500> oh i see
[03:55] <sarnold> if it killed all sessions, that'd make it way harder to do server maintainence ;)
[03:56] <Oblivion1500> yea your right
[03:56] <Oblivion1500> so am i going to have to sudo apt-get remove openssh then reinstall or what am i to do?
[03:57] <sarnold> Oblivion1500: check your logs for some more information... hopefully it reports why it won't start
[03:57] <sarnold> Oblivion1500: check /var/log/auth.log first -- I see some "Server listening" messages in there...
[03:59] <Oblivion1500> http://imgur.com/1MZrbKc
[04:00] <sarnold> Oblivion1500: heh, those are from four days ago :)
[04:00] <sarnold> Oblivion1500: look towards the end of the file
[04:00] <Oblivion1500> oh wow
[04:00] <Oblivion1500> sorry
[04:04] <Oblivion1500> found the error, i think http://imgur.com/Gudkdh6
[04:04] <Oblivion1500> or that was me trying to restart without root
[04:05] <sarnold> Oblivion1500: .. that
[04:05] <Oblivion1500> either way still an error lol
[04:05] <sarnold> man. that's just confusing.
[04:05] <devral> sarnold: free says 0 used, 8514556 free, 8514556 total. doesn't seem to be using swap.
[04:05] <sarnold> devral: I did not expect that.
[04:05] <sarnold> devral: loadaverage? (not that that's great, but .. it's a start...)
[04:06] <devral> sarnold: how do you mean?
[04:07] <sarnold> devral: well, a high load average doesn't necessarily mean anything, but if you're used to seeing '4' and you suddenly see '200', it means something. :D
[04:07] <sarnold> Oblivion1500: try this, "sudo sshd -D" -- and then try to log in from another terminal
[04:08] <devral> sarnold: in what command, I mean? cpu load in top?
[04:08] <sarnold> devral: oh :) sorry. top or cat /proc/loadavg
[04:09] <devral> sarnold: it's not really going above 1, lol.
[04:09] <Oblivion1500> sshd re-exec requires execution with an absolute path
[04:09] <sarnold> devral: wow.
[04:09] <devral> sarnold: "load average: 0.08, 1.05, 1.64"
[04:09] <sarnold> Oblivion1500: oh :) okay, sudo /usr/sbin/sshd -D
[04:10] <sarnold> devral: well, it's dropped a lot -- is the machine still horrible?
[04:10] <Oblivion1500> ohhh, lol hold on
[04:10] <devral> sarnold: not so much right now, but it was rather sporadic before so we'll see
[04:11] <Oblivion1500> changed a yes no arg to all
[04:11] <sarnold> devral: _maybe_ you hit an updatedb or automatic security update thing ...
[04:11] <Oblivion1500> just give me a min to change that
[04:13] <Oblivion1500> i was trying to allow tcp forwarding to see if that would fix my problem, well thought i could use arg all
[04:13] <sarnold> Oblivion1500: it's just about time for me to bail; if I'm gone and your latest effort doesn't fix it, try "sudo /usr/sbin/sshd -d" -- not -D -- that'll give some debug info.
[04:14] <sarnold> Oblivion1500: but the sshd process is not started. tcp forwarding may _also_ be a problem :) but it might not be the only one.
[04:14] <Oblivion1500> ill just change AllowTcpForwarding to yes
[04:15] <sarnold> oh, sshd option... yeah.
[04:15] <sarnold> sorry, I thought you had a firewalling option somewhere :)
[04:15] <Oblivion1500> it should be yes by default though right, i think thats why i did all lol
[04:16] <sarnold> alright, time to run :) good luck Oblivion1500 and devral :)
[04:16] <Oblivion1500> thanks, i wish you could stay you have been more help than most people
[04:17] <devral> thanks
[04:19] <Oblivion1500> damn still didnt work.. anyone else want to give it a go?
[04:21] <Oblivion1500> and i will provide you with this http://imgur.com/JOBjIEw
[05:08] <Oblivion1500> does anyone else maybe know why i cant connect to my server via ssh? http://imgur.com/W4kYm68
[05:08] <Oblivion1500> my on my modem my router is in dmz and im forwarding ports on my router to my server for port 22
[05:16] <DarthEaron> hey guys imtrying to install an email server on my website and i cave mbox squirmail installed but as far as i can tell i have no users, i go to %domain%/squirellmail, and i cant log in
[05:21] <DarthEaron> anyone? i fallowd alot fo guides on the ubuntu forums and i cant see were to add users
[05:21] <DarthEaron> also i have dovecot and postfix installed
[05:43] <DarthEaron> anyone?
[08:31] <Oblivion1500> can anyone here help me set up ssh on my server so i can access it via my public ip?
[08:38] <nibalizer> sure
[08:38] <nibalizer> you have to install the ssh server software
[08:39] <nibalizer> which you can do with apt-get install openssh-server
[08:39] <nibalizer> Oblivion1500:
[10:21] <yolanda> Daviey, jamespage: https://code.launchpad.net/~yolanda.robla/ceilometer/grizzly/+merge/150004
[10:45] <swordfischer> Hi, I am trying to set up heartbeat with my ubuntu server, and I've run into this issue where service heartbeat start / /etc/init.d/heartbeat start  returns no information (as opposed to my CentOS setup). The logfile I've specified is not created, so cannot debug from that. At a loss right now. Any ideas?
[11:19] <nibalizer> have you read the init script?
[11:19] <nibalizer> swordfischer:
[11:58] <swordfischer> nibalizer: the one in init.d? not really, I guess I should then?
[12:43] <nibalizer> yea
[12:43] <nibalizer> maybe there is a directory it is experting to exist that doesn't and the whole script just bails
[12:45] <zul> yolanda: +1
[12:49] <swordfischer> nibalizer: well I'll have a look later, but something like that should at least create a error/warning.. I followed a tutorial on ubuntus site :)
[12:52] <nibalizer> yea
[12:52] <nibalizer> you could also check syslog
[12:52] <nibalizer> or /var/log/* for heartbeaty things
[12:52] <nibalizer> link to the docs youor following?
[13:08] <swordfischer> nibalizer: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHighAvailabilityTeam/Heartbeat - well I fixed it, ln -s /usr/lib/ /usr/lib64/
[13:10] <swordfischer> thanks though :)
[13:14] <yolanda> zul, thx
[13:14] <gary_poster> hallyn or stgraber, hi.  Odd question, but from official channels: am I right that LXC has no official or even semi-official associated icon/image?
[13:16] <gary_poster> s/official channels/Canonical UX people working on company project who contacted us/ :-)
[13:48] <mskau> Need help: No image on newly installed 12.10 server - no boot progress or anything. Can access prompt via install cd rescue option.
[13:53] <hallyn> gary_poster: like an icon for a running lxc process in unity panel?
[13:54] <gary_poster> hallyn, more juju related in this case, but exactly the right idea.
[13:54] <hallyn> gary_poster: not that i know of
[13:54] <gary_poster> hallyn, cool.  You have now provided the official answer. ;-) Thanks!
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[13:55] <gary_poster> hallyn, heh.  You want me to ask anyone else?
[13:55] <hallyn> gary_poster: i wouldn't know who :)
[13:55] <hallyn> stgraber might walk in with an idea
[13:56] <gary_poster> hallyn, :-)  OK, I'll wait for him to weigh in.  Thanks again
[13:56] <hallyn> \o
[14:01] <zul> hallyn = offical answer definently cringeworth ;)
[14:09] <mskau> Help: 12.10. No image after boot. Shift does not bring up Grub menu, but I can see from disk activity that OS is loading. New installation, all default settings....
[14:12] <mskau> See short flash of "Grub loading", and then I'm left out in the cold...
[14:17] <stgraber> gary_poster: no project logo/icon that I'm aware of
[14:17] <gary_poster> ok thanks much stgraber
[14:30] <zul> yolanda:  https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/keystone/keystone-g3/+merge/150055
[14:31] <yolanda> zul, ok
[14:32] <yolanda> that python-oslo-config is everywhere :)
[14:32] <yolanda> done
[14:33] <zul> yolanda: thanks
[14:43] <zul> adam_g: http://people.canonical.com/~chucks/ca/oslo-config_2013.1~b3-0ubuntu1~cloud0_source.changes
[15:09] <zul> yolanda: https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/glance/glance-g3/+merge/150064
[15:10] <yolanda> ok
[15:11] <yolanda> done
[15:14] <zul> thanks
[15:30] <zul> yolanda:  https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/nova/nova-g3/+merge/150069
[15:30] <zul> yolanda: 4 more after this
[15:30] <yolanda> ready for that!
[15:39] <yolanda> zul, done that one
[15:40] <zul> thanks
[15:47] <zul> yolanda: next https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/horizon/horizon-g3/+merge/150079
[15:49] <yolanda> done
[15:55] <zul> yolanda: you merged your ceilometer stuff right?
[15:55] <yolanda> zul, yes, it's merged
[15:55] <zul> yolanda: excelente!
[15:56] <yolanda> nice spanish!
[16:01] <hallyn> zul: so libvirt now adds members of groups admin and sudo to libvirtd...  but the ubuntu netinst places the default user into....  group adm
[16:01] <hallyn> just a note.
[16:01] <zul> hallyn: okies
[16:08] <pythonirc1011> If I install raid 10 on 4 drives, and install ubuntu on the drive, if one drive fails, does the server still boot?
[16:11] <patdk-wk> pythonirc1011, depends on your motherboard
[16:11] <pythonirc1011> patdk-wk: MB? My BIOS is setup up to boot from disk 1/2/3/4 in that sequence
[16:11] <patdk-wk> and if disk 1 fails?
[16:12] <pythonirc1011> it will try to boot from disk 2
[16:12] <patdk-wk> will the motherboard ignore disk 1? hopefully it will
[16:12] <patdk-wk> what if the disk isn't completely failed, but still responds?
[16:12] <pythonirc1011> but will RAID 10 keep grub ready on disk 2
[16:12] <patdk-wk> no
[16:12] <patdk-wk> grub will keep itself ready
[16:12] <pythonirc1011> patdk-wk: then i'm willing to pull its cord out. But I want the machine to boot without my intervention
[16:13] <zul> yolanda:  next https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/quantum/quantum-g3/+merge/150087
[16:16] <yolanda> zul, a little typo here: New usptream release
[16:16] <zul> yolanda: k ill fix it up
[16:22] <pythonirc1011> patdk-wk: do you have a raid 5/10 installation/mdadm?
[16:24] <pythonirc1011> do i have to manually create a /boot (128MB) or something similar so that RAID boots automatically after 1 disk failure?
[16:46] <dodo3773> Quick question guys: Aside from /var/www is there any other directories that lamp developers may need access to?
[16:47] <zul> yolanda: https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/cinder/cinder-g3/+merge/150101
[16:50] <yolanda> zul, sorry, in changelog it says "add python-rtslib and python-mock", but in control shows that python-rtslib is removed?
[16:50] <zul> yolanda: hold on
[16:51] <zul> yolanda: nope its there
[16:51] <yolanda> mm, diff is showing that as removed? 52	- rtslib>=2.1.fb27
[16:51] <yolanda> 53	+ python-swiftclient
[16:51] <yolanda> Resubmit proposal
[16:51] <yolanda> Delete proposal to merge
[16:51] <yolanda> Subscribers
[16:51] <yolanda> People subscribed via source and target branches
[16:51] <yolanda>  to all changes:
[16:51] <yolanda> Chuck Short
[16:51] <yolanda> Openstack Ubuntu Testers
[16:51] <zul> yolanda:  grr...lemme fix it
[16:53] <zul> yolanda: thats nto what im seeing
[16:53] <dodo3773> Okay another question: Can a "fully qualified hostname" be anything I want? Just make something up? I do not understand this
[16:53] <maco> i think it's "fully qualified" if it ends in .
[16:53] <zul> yolanda: nm
[16:53] <yolanda> what do you see in lines 52 and 53?
[16:53] <maco> like example.com.
[16:53] <maco> as opposed to example.com
[16:54] <yolanda> mm, the removal is in the patch
[16:55] <dodo3773> maco: So it doesn't really matter what I set it to?
[16:56] <yolanda> zul, done
[16:56] <zul> thanks
[16:56] <maco> dodo3773: as far as i know, not really. what's in the list or in /etc/hosts for your ip can determine some stuff about what apache will respond to (like "oh hey that domain's not me. *do nothing*" if you lack a * entry in apache...i think..been a while since i used apache) but the no fqhn error has never actually been a problem for me either (doesnt affect anything i notice)
[16:57] <maco> mailservers might care?
[16:58] <dodo3773> maco: The reason I was looking into this is because it seems to be a requirement for virtualmin. I have webmin setup now but the current setup is a security nightmare in my opinion. So I need to get my developers onto usermin or virtualmin. That is why I was asking early about besides the /var/www directory if there is maybe anywhere else these guys might need acccess (for phpmyadmin, mysql, etc..). I am brand new to this server stuff.
[17:01] <rbennacer> how can i see the last security patch installed on my ubuntu server ?
[17:01] <maco> ah. ive never used that. i'm a web dev, but I live on the shell ;)  i presume this is an internal system? if so, do you have internal dns or are devs typing ip addresses?
[17:03] <genii-around> rbennacer: I usually do grep security /var/log/apt/term.log
[17:03] <rbennacer> what is the term.log?
[17:04] <genii-around> rbennacer: It's the terminal output that has been generated when apt-get is run
[17:04] <rbennacer> someone told me about the apt history log but it is not really useful
[17:05] <rbennacer> nice thanks
[17:08] <dodo3773> maco: I have the devs logging into webmin froma  web browser with an ip address
[17:09] <dodo3773> maco: So as a web dev yourself is there anywhere on the system besides /var/www that you need write access to if you were a regular user?
[17:09] <maco> nope
[17:10] <maco> as long as you have a login for whatever mysql client you're using, that should be it
[17:10] <maco> i suppose if the devs needed to go install ruby gems, there'd be that
[17:10] <maco> but i think they'd just as you to do "i need this dependency" type stuff
[17:10] <maco> *ask
[17:12] <dodo3773> maco: Yeah. That's what they did for /var/www
[17:13] <dodo3773> maco: Just trying to get it setup right to make their lives a little easier
[17:24] <zul> Daviey: ping
[17:30] <Daviey> zul: PONG
[17:32] <zul> Daviey:  python-wsme is still stuck in binary-new can you have a look at it
[17:35] <Daviey> sure
[17:35] <adam_g> zul: should build with -v, and
[17:35] <adam_g> [(status)]
[17:36] <adam_g> oops
[17:36] <Daviey> zul: err, it's source NEW
[17:36] <Daviey> I don't have time to review it this very moment, but will later on.
[17:36] <adam_g> zul: 2013.1~b3 shouldn't that be 2013.1-g3 ?
[17:36] <agu10^> hiii!
[17:37] <zul> adam_g: nope thats not a typo
[17:38] <adam_g> zul: oh, ok :)
[17:38] <zul> Daviey: k ill upload ceilometer later then
[17:39] <Daviey> adam_g: 2013.1~b3 .. means, it is almost 2013.1 . milestone g3.  (~ means less than)
[17:39] <Daviey> (inverse of +)
[17:41] <adam_g> Daviey: right, i was talking about b3 vg g3. wasn't aware of the 'b' versioning
[17:41] <Daviey> Oh!
[17:42] <Daviey> Sorry.. And yes, i thought you knw about ~ :)
[17:42] <Daviey> zul: Sure it's not a typo?
[17:42] <zul> Daviey: sure
[17:42] <Daviey> ok.
[17:42] <Daviey> afk
[17:43] <zul> Daviey: http://tarballs.openstack.org/oslo-config/
[17:51] <zul> adam_g: can you check again? should be fixed
[17:53] <adam_g> zul: lgtm
[17:53] <zul> adam_g:  cool thanks
[17:54] <zul> adam_g: g3 uploaded for raring im going to get some lunch and start on precise
[17:59] <dodo3773> maco: thanks. take care.
[18:14] <ecco> Hi room, just going to lurk for a while.
[18:16]  * genii-around makes more coffee and passes the mugs around
[18:18] <hallyn> thanks
[18:19] <hallyn> after hours of patch wranging for *)&$*)%*)% libvirt backports, that hits the spot
[18:19] <hallyn> but \o/, think i'ts done and working
[18:19] <Daviey> heck, i think the whiskey sould be opened
[18:20] <ecco> After all, its friday so a little whiskey would be nice
[18:22] <RoyK> Daviey: whiskey or whisky? ;)
[18:22] <hiro5id> Hello guys.  Can anyone help with a problem installing Ubuntu Server?   My installation is stuck at "Configuring apt".   I have posted a questiona about it on stack exchange:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/259847/help-installing-ubuntu-server-and-it-is-stuck-at-configuring-apt
[18:23] <RoyK> hm... wierd
[18:23] <RoyK> hiro5id: for reference, could you try with 12.04.1? what hardware are you using?
[18:24] <Daviey> RoyK: i guess i've had a few already
[18:24] <hiro5id> VMware ESXi
[18:24] <hiro5id> its not physical hardware
[18:24] <hiro5id> But i can try downloading 12.04.1 and restart the installation though
[18:24] <RoyK> hiro5id: haven't tried 12.04.2 on ESXi yet
[18:25] <RoyK> I have some 12.04.2 machines running in there, though, but they were installed on 12.04.1
[18:25] <hiro5id> ok... thanks for your quick reply..    i'll try 12.04.1
[18:26] <RoyK> hiro5id: if it works with 12.04.1, please post a bug with whatever logs you have
[18:27] <hiro5id> Ok Royk ... Oh.... do you guys think it might have something to do with using "VMXNET3" as the network adapter for the Virtual Machine configuration ?
[18:27] <RoyK> lemme check what I use
[18:27] <hiro5id> great :)
[18:29] <RoyK> vmxnet3 in use
[18:29] <hiro5id> hhmmmm.... k
[18:30] <RoyK> this is in a 4-node cluster
[18:30] <RoyK> shouldn't matter, though
[18:32] <hiro5id> Just for kicks, i'm going to try again with a E1000 Ethernet adapter configured this time and see if it makes a difference with 12.04.2
[18:33] <RoyK> might do
[18:33] <RoyK> iirc 12.04.2 uses a newer kernel
[18:34] <RoyK> which I think is rather strange, since by doing that, the lads (or lassies) at canonical will have to patch up two different kernel trees or force people to upgrade
[18:36] <hiro5id> ...i'll be afk for a bit.  By the way this is my first time trying to get help from the community.  I'm very surprised at the prompt response.
[18:56] <ModFather> hi there, how i can add a printer through ip:port to my ubuntu 12.10 ?
[18:56] <ModFather> i've install cups and hplip but still i get: "/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip-hplip failed"
[18:57] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/serverguide/cups.html
[18:57] <holstein> theres a webgui as well that i have used before
[18:57] <ModFather> holstein i have used that and i install successfully cups
[18:58] <ModFather> also i added my printer with the correct driver through Web GUI of Cups
[18:58] <ModFather> still get a weired error
[18:58] <holstein> i would try other drivers
[18:58] <ModFather> ppd file?
[18:59] <holstein> i dont know what printer you have.. but i would just try other ones
[18:59] <ModFather> drivers can cause that error: "/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip-hplip failed"
[18:59] <ModFather> ?
[19:00] <holstein> sure.. that error is not very helpful.. "failed" coule mean anything
[19:00] <sarnold> ModFather: perhaps your problem is already documented? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hplip
[19:00] <sarnold> ModFather: check logs to see if you can find a more detailed error message
[19:00] <holstein> ideally, you would run a live CD, and test the printer with *some* functional driver, then you can add that, knowing the driver works
[19:08] <ModFather> holstein i tried add another driver i got the same error
[19:09] <holstein> ModFather: i have sometimes tried 20 or so til i found one that worked.. i like to test from a live CD though since now you are troubleshooting several things at once, as well as the driver support
[20:01] <Quebert> hi guys. could someone here tell me what you would normally have your file permissions setup as e.g. user ubuntu group www-data or something else?
[20:09] <RoyK> Quebert: for the web stuff?
[20:09] <Quebert> hey RoyK, yeah I was thinking from the public_html folder down
[20:10] <Quebert> everything below that I have owned as root
[20:10] <Quebert> root:root
[20:12] <RoyK> Quebert: so long that www-data can read it, it's good
[20:13] <RoyK> Quebert: if www-data can write to it, it's normally not good, since things may be changed in case of a security breach
[20:15] <Quebert> so would it be safe to say all files below public_html could be owned by group www-data and user ubuntu with permissions of 755 ?
[20:16] <RoyK> Quebert: that should be safe, yes
[20:16] <Quebert> ok cool, thank you Royk!
[20:17] <RoyK> Quebert: not sure why the group ownership would be needed, though
[20:17] <Quebert> RoyK doesnt each folder/file need to belong to a group?
[20:17] <RoyK> yes
[20:18] <RoyK> just use root:root for the lot and 755
[20:18] <resno> RoyK: you dont use www-data?
[20:18] <sarnold> or user:user if you don't want to have to sudo to root to update the content..
[20:18] <RoyK> resno: why would I?
[20:19] <resno> sarnold: i was recommended to use suexec for that
[20:19] <sarnold> resno: the apache config thingy?
[20:20] <Quebert> I'm using nginx, doesn't nginx need to write to cache files?
[20:20] <Quebert> nginx belongs to www-data
[20:20] <RoyK> Quebert: if nginx needs to write cache files, it shouldn't be in /var/www
[20:21] <Quebert> what do you mean RoyK
[20:21] <Quebert> I have a static folder just above public_html
[20:21] <RoyK> Quebert: nginx may need a cache dir
[20:21] <Quebert> yeah that's the static folder
[20:21] <RoyK> but giving www-data write access to the whole thing, isn't too smart
[20:22] <xsl> guys im lost... after 2 days the server always hangs ... i'm in a dead end... i dont see errors... i dunno what to do .. :( plz any pointers
[20:22] <RoyK> xsl: console access?
[20:22] <xsl> it does not respond
[20:22] <Quebert> Royk is execute ok?
[20:22] <RoyK> not for files
[20:22] <Quebert> for www-data
[20:22] <resno> out of ram? out of hdd?
[20:22] <Quebert> just foders?
[20:23] <RoyK> Quebert: +x is needed for directories
[20:23] <Quebert> rwxr-xr-x
[20:23] <Quebert> ?
[20:23] <resno> RoyK: you basically limit read to only folders apache needs to write to. essetnially.
[20:23] <resno> err, write i mean
[20:23] <xsl> resno i tought of that ... maybe its a problem of inodes or something :(
[20:24] <xsl> im running a server with several lx-containers
[20:24] <RoyK> resno: yes
[20:24] <resno> xsl: if you asked me guess based on your symtoms thats what i would go after first
[20:24] <sarnold> xsl: _nothing_ in the logs?
[20:24] <xsl> nothing = 0
[20:24] <sarnold> ouch.
[20:24] <resno> i bet theres something there though
[20:24] <xsl> inside or outside the containers
[20:26] <sarnold> xsl: when I once had to troubleshoot an annoying system, we found it very useful to have something like this running: while true ; do sleep 1 ; mv /root/procs /root/procs.1 ; ps auxw > /root/procs ; done
[20:26] <sarnold> xsl: it gave us some kind of snapshot of the system seconds before it got unusable.
[20:27] <sarnold> xsl: .. you may find e.g. dmesg | tail -20   more useful. or free output...
[20:27] <xsl> yeah i understand your point
[20:28] <xsl> i'm asking some stuff on the #lxcontainers related to ext4 ( to know it they are supported as a container backend )
[20:28] <xsl> i bet it i wanted to create a simple "LAMP" server it was still up ... but wen we go paranoid and do containers and tweaking .. ffs :(
[20:41] <pmatulis> am i the only person who is having trouble booting a kvm guest using 'bus=scsi'?  so far i'm reading this is not supported at the bios level
[21:41] <alaing> hi guys any idea why when I try ftp to my /var/www on the ubuntu server  it timesout but if I use putty it works fine.
[21:41] <alaing> I'm filezilla client and I've tried dreamweavers built in ftp
[21:44] <holstein> alaing: i would just put files up where you have permissions, and ssh in with putty and move them
[21:45] <alaing> i'm using the same username/password in filezilla and putty
[21:46] <alaing> I thought it would be a permissions but its strange seeing as I can access it from one app and not the other
[21:46] <holstein> alaing: i would use filezilla to put files wher you know you have permission.. and use putty to move them
[21:46] <holstein> alaing: test with other locations.. other users.. smaller test files
[21:47] <holstein> alaing: you are probably ssh with putty and ftp with filezilla
[21:47] <alaing> its a web server that I'm running from my home broadband so I should have permission for all folders and system etc
[21:47] <holstein> alaing: its likey that you are connecting ftp with filezilla, and ssh with putty
[21:48] <alaing> holstein: actually I'm using the same port
[21:48] <holstein> alaing: i would move them to another location that you *can* connect filezilla to.. then move them with putty via ssh where you want them to be
[21:49] <alaing> actually could that be the problem filezilla and putty using the same port
[21:49] <holstein> otherwise, you'll just need to troubleshoot permissions, and maybe enable a root login, which i wouldnt do, to be able to put things directly into /var/www
[21:49] <holstein> alaing: they are clients.. ftp and ssh shouldnt be using the same port AFAIK
[21:50] <holstein> alaing: how are you connect wiht putty? how are you connecting with filezilla? what user? does that user have access to the directory?
[21:51] <alaing> filezilla is using sftp
[21:51] <alaing> port 2221
[21:51] <holstein> i would put the files up in the user home, and ssh in with putty and sudo move them to /var/www
[21:51] <alaing> and putty is using port 2221
[21:52] <alaing> using ssh
[21:53] <holstein> alaing: you are likely just able to navigate to that directory with putty.. try putting something there, and you wont have permission
[21:54] <alaing> ls shows me the files/folders in there from putty
[21:55] <holstein> alaing: sure.. but you probably dont have permission to put anything there... and thats why filezilla is failing to connect to that location.. just let filezilla connect to the /home of the user, and put the files there, and move them from putty to where you want them with sudo
[21:56] <alaing> ok i've redirected filezilla to the /home/myUser and its still timing out
[21:57] <holstein> alaing: what operating system are you connection from?
[21:57] <alaing> win 7 home prem
[21:58] <alaing> it gets to "Listing directory /home/myuser"
[21:58] <holstein> alaing: http://hartvig.de/2008/mounting-your-ssh-shares-in-microsoft-windows/ is an option
[21:58] <alaing> and then times out and gives this msg Error:	Failed to retrieve directory listing
[21:59] <holstein> alaing: sometime i just blow it out and start over. username, port.. IP.. everything
[22:00] <alaing> download link does work on that linky
[22:00] <alaing> yeah i was afraid you were going to say that
[22:01] <fehwalker> are you sure filezilla is using sftp and not ftps?
[22:02] <alaing> fehwalker: well according to the site manaer its using sftp
[22:02] <holstein> alaing: its using ssh, since you are connecting ssh
[22:03] <alaing> sorry still not quiet confident on the cmd line
[22:04] <alaing> what command could I use to create a document in /var/www
[22:04] <alaing> just to see if it fails
[22:05] <holstein> nano to make a text document... or touch
[22:06] <alaing> how do you save and exit from nano?
[22:06] <escott> alaing, touch
[22:06] <alaing> ^x?
[22:07] <alaing> touch?
[22:08] <holstein> touch filename.html will make that file
[22:08] <sarnold> touch /var/www/testing ; ls -l /var/www/testing
[22:09] <xsl> ^help
[22:09] <alaing> it createed it
[22:09] <alaing> so my user must have access to /var/www/
[22:09] <alaing> and permission to write
[22:14] <alaing> i think i use vsftp on the server
[22:15] <sarnold> I thought you were using sftp? that'd be handled through sshd
[22:15] <alaing> actually it might be sshd - I'm just double checking
[22:16] <alaing> I was wondering whether there would be logs on the attempts which may give a clue as to why is failing
[22:17] <sarnold> alaing: /var/log/auth.log ought to have the logins, at least
[22:17] <holstein> alaing: if you can ssh in, you should be able to use filezilla... double check the credentials
[22:18] <alaing> holstein: filezilla is connecting
[22:18] <alaing> its just timing out when it tries to list the directory
[22:19] <alaing> actually I just had putty "hang" on me as well
[22:19] <alaing> i went into /var/log/ and dir dir and it only list about 3 items and then stopped
[22:20] <alaing> I cant escape it.
[22:20] <alaing> looks like I have to reset the session
[22:20] <holstein> alaing: all i have been basing my comments on is a fully connected and fucntioning ssh connection from putty
[22:20] <holstein> i think you might have issues server side, or other issues with your connectitivy
[22:24] <theriwolf> Removing sendmail-bin ...
[22:24] <theriwolf> /var/lib/dpkg/info/sendmail-bin.prerm: 91: /var/lib/dpkg/info/sendmail-bin.prerm: invoke-rc.d: not found
[22:24] <theriwolf> dpkg: error processing sendmail-bin (--remove):
[22:24] <theriwolf>  subprocess installed pre-removal script returned error exit status 127
[22:24] <theriwolf> Any idea how to fix this?
[22:25] <sarnold> theriwolf: invoke-rc.d is supplied by the sysv-rc package -- is that installed?
[22:26] <theriwolf> I need to install a package to remove a package?
[22:27] <theriwolf> it is installed yes
[22:27] <sarnold> theriwolf: is there anything funny with ls -l /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d  ?
[22:28] <theriwolf> hm..
[22:28] <theriwolf> updating that package helped
[22:29] <alaing> thanks for your help anyway guys
[22:29] <alaing> I'll try a few more things
[23:51] <keithzg> Arghh, this is driving me crazy. One of my servers has entirely lost the ability to resolve names, despite having "dns-nameservers" defined with the same internal network nameserver that all the other servers are using just fine.