=== wedgwood is now known as wedgwood_away [03:30] hello i have a recently installed version of ubuntu server long term and i was wondering if there was some sort of firewall installed by default that my not be allowing me ssh access to it [03:30] though, i am able to access it locally... well that was a dumb question [03:30] Oblivion1500: there's the ufw front end to raw iptables ... [03:31] will that allow local connections but not public? [03:31] it may.. [03:32] how do i change settings for it? [03:32] Oblivion1500: check "sudo ufw status" output for information... [03:32] ok [03:33] and it is inactive, great i have done almost everything i can to get ssh working.. i dont know what im doing wrong i have even gone to the extent of putting my router in dmz then from there my server in dmz [03:34] Oblivion1500: does netstat -nl | grep :22 show sshd accepting connections from 0.0.0.0:*? [03:38] interesting, let me give you a screen shot, it doesent show it now but i beleave i did it before and it did,, though im also trying to ftp into it and that doesent work and 21 is showing up.. let me get that screenshot [03:39] my server is acting really weird. it's taking a long time to execute commands. I did an strace on "echo hi" and it took 5 seconds to execute "brk(0) = 0x1594000" this just randomly started happening. [03:39] http://imgur.com/8uMSpVI [03:40] devral: check free output to see if you're deep into swap; vmstat 1 will show you swap in and swap out traffic [03:41] depending on how much ram i have i usually set swap to 10 or 0 [03:41] Oblivion1500: ps auxw | grep ssh -- that's odd, looks like sshd might not even be running. [03:42] that is a screen shot of me using ssh to log into that server, locally of course [03:44] http://imgur.com/KV3HTuP [03:45] Oblivion1500: heh, indeed -- there's no process 2832. You'd expect to see a line like this one: [03:45] root 1200 0.0 0.0 49968 2828 ? Ss Feb19 0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd -D [03:45] so can you tell me how to fix it? [03:47] Oblivion1500: I'd try another "service sshd restart" command.. [03:47] Oblivion1500: chcek the logs if it doesn't start [03:47] it doesent see it as a service... [03:48] how does the daemon not come with openssh [03:48] wtf lol [03:49] Oblivion1500: oh, my fault. "service ssh restart" [03:50] nothing, actually did this, ill get you a screen [03:52] http://imgur.com/6anRmJ4 [03:54] also if the service is restarted shouldnt i get disconected from the server? [03:54] like what happens if i do: ssh restart [03:55] Oblivion1500: no, it only kills te listening daemon [03:55] oh i see [03:55] if it killed all sessions, that'd make it way harder to do server maintainence ;) [03:56] yea your right [03:56] so am i going to have to sudo apt-get remove openssh then reinstall or what am i to do? [03:57] Oblivion1500: check your logs for some more information... hopefully it reports why it won't start [03:57] Oblivion1500: check /var/log/auth.log first -- I see some "Server listening" messages in there... [03:59] http://imgur.com/1MZrbKc [04:00] Oblivion1500: heh, those are from four days ago :) [04:00] Oblivion1500: look towards the end of the file [04:00] oh wow [04:00] sorry [04:04] found the error, i think http://imgur.com/Gudkdh6 [04:04] or that was me trying to restart without root [04:05] Oblivion1500: .. that [04:05] either way still an error lol [04:05] man. that's just confusing. [04:05] sarnold: free says 0 used, 8514556 free, 8514556 total. doesn't seem to be using swap. [04:05] devral: I did not expect that. [04:05] devral: loadaverage? (not that that's great, but .. it's a start...) [04:06] sarnold: how do you mean? [04:07] devral: well, a high load average doesn't necessarily mean anything, but if you're used to seeing '4' and you suddenly see '200', it means something. :D [04:07] Oblivion1500: try this, "sudo sshd -D" -- and then try to log in from another terminal [04:08] sarnold: in what command, I mean? cpu load in top? [04:08] devral: oh :) sorry. top or cat /proc/loadavg [04:09] sarnold: it's not really going above 1, lol. [04:09] sshd re-exec requires execution with an absolute path [04:09] devral: wow. [04:09] sarnold: "load average: 0.08, 1.05, 1.64" [04:09] Oblivion1500: oh :) okay, sudo /usr/sbin/sshd -D [04:10] devral: well, it's dropped a lot -- is the machine still horrible? [04:10] ohhh, lol hold on [04:10] sarnold: not so much right now, but it was rather sporadic before so we'll see [04:11] changed a yes no arg to all [04:11] devral: _maybe_ you hit an updatedb or automatic security update thing ... [04:11] just give me a min to change that [04:13] i was trying to allow tcp forwarding to see if that would fix my problem, well thought i could use arg all [04:13] Oblivion1500: it's just about time for me to bail; if I'm gone and your latest effort doesn't fix it, try "sudo /usr/sbin/sshd -d" -- not -D -- that'll give some debug info. [04:14] Oblivion1500: but the sshd process is not started. tcp forwarding may _also_ be a problem :) but it might not be the only one. [04:14] ill just change AllowTcpForwarding to yes [04:15] oh, sshd option... yeah. [04:15] sorry, I thought you had a firewalling option somewhere :) [04:15] it should be yes by default though right, i think thats why i did all lol [04:16] alright, time to run :) good luck Oblivion1500 and devral :) [04:16] thanks, i wish you could stay you have been more help than most people [04:17] thanks [04:19] damn still didnt work.. anyone else want to give it a go? [04:21] and i will provide you with this http://imgur.com/JOBjIEw === Oblivion1500_ is now known as Oblivion1500 [05:08] does anyone else maybe know why i cant connect to my server via ssh? http://imgur.com/W4kYm68 [05:08] my on my modem my router is in dmz and im forwarding ports on my router to my server for port 22 [05:16] hey guys imtrying to install an email server on my website and i cave mbox squirmail installed but as far as i can tell i have no users, i go to %domain%/squirellmail, and i cant log in [05:21] anyone? i fallowd alot fo guides on the ubuntu forums and i cant see were to add users [05:21] also i have dovecot and postfix installed [05:43] anyone? === smb` is now known as smb [08:31] can anyone here help me set up ssh on my server so i can access it via my public ip? [08:38] sure [08:38] you have to install the ssh server software [08:39] which you can do with apt-get install openssh-server [08:39] Oblivion1500: === Nafallo_ is now known as Nafallo === yofel_ is now known as yofel [10:21] Daviey, jamespage: https://code.launchpad.net/~yolanda.robla/ceilometer/grizzly/+merge/150004 === Manu__ is now known as nodist [10:45] Hi, I am trying to set up heartbeat with my ubuntu server, and I've run into this issue where service heartbeat start / /etc/init.d/heartbeat start returns no information (as opposed to my CentOS setup). The logfile I've specified is not created, so cannot debug from that. At a loss right now. Any ideas? [11:19] have you read the init script? [11:19] swordfischer: [11:58] nibalizer: the one in init.d? not really, I guess I should then? [12:43] yea [12:43] maybe there is a directory it is experting to exist that doesn't and the whole script just bails [12:45] yolanda: +1 [12:49] nibalizer: well I'll have a look later, but something like that should at least create a error/warning.. I followed a tutorial on ubuntus site :) [12:52] yea [12:52] you could also check syslog [12:52] or /var/log/* for heartbeaty things [12:52] link to the docs youor following? [13:08] nibalizer: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHighAvailabilityTeam/Heartbeat - well I fixed it, ln -s /usr/lib/ /usr/lib64/ [13:10] thanks though :) [13:14] zul, thx [13:14] hallyn or stgraber, hi. Odd question, but from official channels: am I right that LXC has no official or even semi-official associated icon/image? [13:16] s/official channels/Canonical UX people working on company project who contacted us/ :-) === yofel_ is now known as yofel === wedgwood_away is now known as wedgwood [13:48] Need help: No image on newly installed 12.10 server - no boot progress or anything. Can access prompt via install cd rescue option. [13:53] gary_poster: like an icon for a running lxc process in unity panel? [13:54] hallyn, more juju related in this case, but exactly the right idea. [13:54] gary_poster: not that i know of [13:54] hallyn, cool. You have now provided the official answer. ;-) Thanks! [13:55] [13:55] hallyn, heh. You want me to ask anyone else? [13:55] gary_poster: i wouldn't know who :) [13:55] stgraber might walk in with an idea [13:56] hallyn, :-) OK, I'll wait for him to weigh in. Thanks again [13:56] \o [14:01] hallyn = offical answer definently cringeworth ;) [14:09] Help: 12.10. No image after boot. Shift does not bring up Grub menu, but I can see from disk activity that OS is loading. New installation, all default settings.... [14:12] See short flash of "Grub loading", and then I'm left out in the cold... [14:17] gary_poster: no project logo/icon that I'm aware of [14:17] ok thanks much stgraber [14:30] yolanda: https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/keystone/keystone-g3/+merge/150055 [14:31] zul, ok [14:32] that python-oslo-config is everywhere :) [14:32] done [14:33] yolanda: thanks [14:43] adam_g: http://people.canonical.com/~chucks/ca/oslo-config_2013.1~b3-0ubuntu1~cloud0_source.changes [15:09] yolanda: https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/glance/glance-g3/+merge/150064 [15:10] ok [15:11] done [15:14] thanks [15:30] yolanda: https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/nova/nova-g3/+merge/150069 [15:30] yolanda: 4 more after this [15:30] ready for that! [15:39] zul, done that one [15:40] thanks [15:47] yolanda: next https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/horizon/horizon-g3/+merge/150079 [15:49] done [15:55] yolanda: you merged your ceilometer stuff right? [15:55] zul, yes, it's merged [15:55] yolanda: excelente! [15:56] nice spanish! [16:01] zul: so libvirt now adds members of groups admin and sudo to libvirtd... but the ubuntu netinst places the default user into.... group adm [16:01] just a note. [16:01] hallyn: okies === andreas__ is now known as ahasenack [16:08] If I install raid 10 on 4 drives, and install ubuntu on the drive, if one drive fails, does the server still boot? [16:11] pythonirc1011, depends on your motherboard [16:11] patdk-wk: MB? My BIOS is setup up to boot from disk 1/2/3/4 in that sequence [16:11] and if disk 1 fails? [16:12] it will try to boot from disk 2 [16:12] will the motherboard ignore disk 1? hopefully it will [16:12] what if the disk isn't completely failed, but still responds? [16:12] but will RAID 10 keep grub ready on disk 2 [16:12] no [16:12] grub will keep itself ready [16:12] patdk-wk: then i'm willing to pull its cord out. But I want the machine to boot without my intervention [16:13] yolanda: next https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/quantum/quantum-g3/+merge/150087 [16:16] zul, a little typo here: New usptream release [16:16] yolanda: k ill fix it up [16:22] patdk-wk: do you have a raid 5/10 installation/mdadm? [16:24] do i have to manually create a /boot (128MB) or something similar so that RAID boots automatically after 1 disk failure? [16:46] Quick question guys: Aside from /var/www is there any other directories that lamp developers may need access to? === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch [16:47] yolanda: https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/cinder/cinder-g3/+merge/150101 [16:50] zul, sorry, in changelog it says "add python-rtslib and python-mock", but in control shows that python-rtslib is removed? [16:50] yolanda: hold on [16:51] yolanda: nope its there [16:51] mm, diff is showing that as removed? 52 - rtslib>=2.1.fb27 [16:51] 53 + python-swiftclient [16:51] Resubmit proposal [16:51] Delete proposal to merge [16:51] Subscribers [16:51] People subscribed via source and target branches [16:51] to all changes: [16:51] Chuck Short [16:51] Openstack Ubuntu Testers [16:51] yolanda: grr...lemme fix it [16:53] yolanda: thats nto what im seeing [16:53] Okay another question: Can a "fully qualified hostname" be anything I want? Just make something up? I do not understand this [16:53] i think it's "fully qualified" if it ends in . [16:53] yolanda: nm [16:53] what do you see in lines 52 and 53? [16:53] like example.com. [16:53] as opposed to example.com [16:54] mm, the removal is in the patch [16:55] maco: So it doesn't really matter what I set it to? [16:56] zul, done [16:56] thanks [16:56] dodo3773: as far as i know, not really. what's in the list or in /etc/hosts for your ip can determine some stuff about what apache will respond to (like "oh hey that domain's not me. *do nothing*" if you lack a * entry in apache...i think..been a while since i used apache) but the no fqhn error has never actually been a problem for me either (doesnt affect anything i notice) [16:57] mailservers might care? [16:58] maco: The reason I was looking into this is because it seems to be a requirement for virtualmin. I have webmin setup now but the current setup is a security nightmare in my opinion. So I need to get my developers onto usermin or virtualmin. That is why I was asking early about besides the /var/www directory if there is maybe anywhere else these guys might need acccess (for phpmyadmin, mysql, etc..). I am brand new to this server stuff. [17:01] how can i see the last security patch installed on my ubuntu server ? [17:01] ah. ive never used that. i'm a web dev, but I live on the shell ;) i presume this is an internal system? if so, do you have internal dns or are devs typing ip addresses? [17:03] rbennacer: I usually do grep security /var/log/apt/term.log [17:03] what is the term.log? [17:04] rbennacer: It's the terminal output that has been generated when apt-get is run [17:04] someone told me about the apt history log but it is not really useful [17:05] nice thanks [17:08] maco: I have the devs logging into webmin froma web browser with an ip address [17:09] maco: So as a web dev yourself is there anywhere on the system besides /var/www that you need write access to if you were a regular user? [17:09] nope [17:10] as long as you have a login for whatever mysql client you're using, that should be it [17:10] i suppose if the devs needed to go install ruby gems, there'd be that [17:10] but i think they'd just as you to do "i need this dependency" type stuff [17:10] *ask [17:12] maco: Yeah. That's what they did for /var/www [17:13] maco: Just trying to get it setup right to make their lives a little easier === matsubara-lunch is now known as matsubara [17:24] Daviey: ping [17:30] zul: PONG [17:32] Daviey: python-wsme is still stuck in binary-new can you have a look at it [17:35] sure [17:35] zul: should build with -v, and [17:35] [(status)] [17:36] oops [17:36] zul: err, it's source NEW [17:36] I don't have time to review it this very moment, but will later on. [17:36] zul: 2013.1~b3 shouldn't that be 2013.1-g3 ? [17:36] hiii! [17:37] adam_g: nope thats not a typo [17:38] zul: oh, ok :) [17:38] Daviey: k ill upload ceilometer later then [17:39] adam_g: 2013.1~b3 .. means, it is almost 2013.1 . milestone g3. (~ means less than) [17:39] (inverse of +) [17:41] Daviey: right, i was talking about b3 vg g3. wasn't aware of the 'b' versioning [17:41] Oh! [17:42] Sorry.. And yes, i thought you knw about ~ :) [17:42] zul: Sure it's not a typo? [17:42] Daviey: sure [17:42] ok. [17:42] afk [17:43] Daviey: http://tarballs.openstack.org/oslo-config/ === tarzxvf is now known as ubuntu-phone === ubuntu-phone is now known as tarzxvf [17:51] adam_g: can you check again? should be fixed [17:53] zul: lgtm [17:53] adam_g: cool thanks [17:54] adam_g: g3 uploaded for raring im going to get some lunch and start on precise [17:59] maco: thanks. take care. [18:14] Hi room, just going to lurk for a while. [18:16] * genii-around makes more coffee and passes the mugs around [18:18] thanks [18:19] after hours of patch wranging for *)&$*)%*)% libvirt backports, that hits the spot [18:19] but \o/, think i'ts done and working [18:19] heck, i think the whiskey sould be opened [18:20] After all, its friday so a little whiskey would be nice [18:22] Daviey: whiskey or whisky? ;) [18:22] Hello guys. Can anyone help with a problem installing Ubuntu Server? My installation is stuck at "Configuring apt". I have posted a questiona about it on stack exchange: http://askubuntu.com/questions/259847/help-installing-ubuntu-server-and-it-is-stuck-at-configuring-apt [18:23] hm... wierd [18:23] hiro5id: for reference, could you try with 12.04.1? what hardware are you using? [18:24] RoyK: i guess i've had a few already [18:24] VMware ESXi [18:24] its not physical hardware [18:24] But i can try downloading 12.04.1 and restart the installation though [18:24] hiro5id: haven't tried 12.04.2 on ESXi yet [18:25] I have some 12.04.2 machines running in there, though, but they were installed on 12.04.1 [18:25] ok... thanks for your quick reply.. i'll try 12.04.1 [18:26] hiro5id: if it works with 12.04.1, please post a bug with whatever logs you have [18:27] Ok Royk ... Oh.... do you guys think it might have something to do with using "VMXNET3" as the network adapter for the Virtual Machine configuration ? [18:27] lemme check what I use [18:27] great :) [18:29] vmxnet3 in use [18:29] hhmmmm.... k [18:30] this is in a 4-node cluster [18:30] shouldn't matter, though [18:32] Just for kicks, i'm going to try again with a E1000 Ethernet adapter configured this time and see if it makes a difference with 12.04.2 [18:33] might do [18:33] iirc 12.04.2 uses a newer kernel [18:34] which I think is rather strange, since by doing that, the lads (or lassies) at canonical will have to patch up two different kernel trees or force people to upgrade [18:36] ...i'll be afk for a bit. By the way this is my first time trying to get help from the community. I'm very surprised at the prompt response. === NomadJim_ is now known as NomadJim [18:56] hi there, how i can add a printer through ip:port to my ubuntu 12.10 ? [18:56] i've install cups and hplip but still i get: "/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip-hplip failed" [18:57] https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/serverguide/cups.html [18:57] theres a webgui as well that i have used before [18:57] holstein i have used that and i install successfully cups [18:58] also i added my printer with the correct driver through Web GUI of Cups [18:58] still get a weired error [18:58] i would try other drivers [18:58] ppd file? [18:59] i dont know what printer you have.. but i would just try other ones [18:59] drivers can cause that error: "/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip-hplip failed" [18:59] ? [19:00] sure.. that error is not very helpful.. "failed" coule mean anything [19:00] ModFather: perhaps your problem is already documented? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hplip [19:00] ModFather: check logs to see if you can find a more detailed error message [19:00] ideally, you would run a live CD, and test the printer with *some* functional driver, then you can add that, knowing the driver works [19:08] holstein i tried add another driver i got the same error [19:09] ModFather: i have sometimes tried 20 or so til i found one that worked.. i like to test from a live CD though since now you are troubleshooting several things at once, as well as the driver support === matsubara is now known as matsubara-afk [20:01] hi guys. could someone here tell me what you would normally have your file permissions setup as e.g. user ubuntu group www-data or something else? [20:09] Quebert: for the web stuff? [20:09] hey RoyK, yeah I was thinking from the public_html folder down [20:10] everything below that I have owned as root [20:10] root:root [20:12] Quebert: so long that www-data can read it, it's good [20:13] Quebert: if www-data can write to it, it's normally not good, since things may be changed in case of a security breach [20:15] so would it be safe to say all files below public_html could be owned by group www-data and user ubuntu with permissions of 755 ? [20:16] Quebert: that should be safe, yes [20:16] ok cool, thank you Royk! [20:17] Quebert: not sure why the group ownership would be needed, though [20:17] RoyK doesnt each folder/file need to belong to a group? [20:17] yes [20:18] just use root:root for the lot and 755 [20:18] RoyK: you dont use www-data? [20:18] or user:user if you don't want to have to sudo to root to update the content.. [20:18] resno: why would I? [20:19] sarnold: i was recommended to use suexec for that [20:19] resno: the apache config thingy? [20:20] I'm using nginx, doesn't nginx need to write to cache files? [20:20] nginx belongs to www-data [20:20] Quebert: if nginx needs to write cache files, it shouldn't be in /var/www [20:21] what do you mean RoyK [20:21] I have a static folder just above public_html [20:21] Quebert: nginx may need a cache dir [20:21] yeah that's the static folder [20:21] but giving www-data write access to the whole thing, isn't too smart [20:22] guys im lost... after 2 days the server always hangs ... i'm in a dead end... i dont see errors... i dunno what to do .. :( plz any pointers [20:22] xsl: console access? [20:22] it does not respond [20:22] Royk is execute ok? [20:22] not for files [20:22] for www-data [20:22] out of ram? out of hdd? [20:22] just foders? [20:23] Quebert: +x is needed for directories [20:23] rwxr-xr-x [20:23] ? [20:23] RoyK: you basically limit read to only folders apache needs to write to. essetnially. [20:23] err, write i mean [20:23] resno i tought of that ... maybe its a problem of inodes or something :( [20:24] im running a server with several lx-containers [20:24] resno: yes [20:24] xsl: if you asked me guess based on your symtoms thats what i would go after first [20:24] xsl: _nothing_ in the logs? [20:24] nothing = 0 [20:24] ouch. [20:24] i bet theres something there though [20:24] inside or outside the containers [20:26] xsl: when I once had to troubleshoot an annoying system, we found it very useful to have something like this running: while true ; do sleep 1 ; mv /root/procs /root/procs.1 ; ps auxw > /root/procs ; done [20:26] xsl: it gave us some kind of snapshot of the system seconds before it got unusable. [20:27] xsl: .. you may find e.g. dmesg | tail -20 more useful. or free output... [20:27] yeah i understand your point [20:28] i'm asking some stuff on the #lxcontainers related to ext4 ( to know it they are supported as a container backend ) [20:28] i bet it i wanted to create a simple "LAMP" server it was still up ... but wen we go paranoid and do containers and tweaking .. ffs :( [20:41] am i the only person who is having trouble booting a kvm guest using 'bus=scsi'? so far i'm reading this is not supported at the bios level [21:41] hi guys any idea why when I try ftp to my /var/www on the ubuntu server it timesout but if I use putty it works fine. [21:41] I'm filezilla client and I've tried dreamweavers built in ftp [21:44] alaing: i would just put files up where you have permissions, and ssh in with putty and move them [21:45] i'm using the same username/password in filezilla and putty [21:46] I thought it would be a permissions but its strange seeing as I can access it from one app and not the other [21:46] alaing: i would use filezilla to put files wher you know you have permission.. and use putty to move them [21:46] alaing: test with other locations.. other users.. smaller test files [21:47] alaing: you are probably ssh with putty and ftp with filezilla [21:47] its a web server that I'm running from my home broadband so I should have permission for all folders and system etc [21:47] alaing: its likey that you are connecting ftp with filezilla, and ssh with putty [21:48] holstein: actually I'm using the same port [21:48] alaing: i would move them to another location that you *can* connect filezilla to.. then move them with putty via ssh where you want them to be [21:49] actually could that be the problem filezilla and putty using the same port [21:49] otherwise, you'll just need to troubleshoot permissions, and maybe enable a root login, which i wouldnt do, to be able to put things directly into /var/www [21:49] alaing: they are clients.. ftp and ssh shouldnt be using the same port AFAIK [21:50] alaing: how are you connect wiht putty? how are you connecting with filezilla? what user? does that user have access to the directory? [21:51] filezilla is using sftp [21:51] port 2221 [21:51] i would put the files up in the user home, and ssh in with putty and sudo move them to /var/www [21:51] and putty is using port 2221 [21:52] using ssh [21:53] alaing: you are likely just able to navigate to that directory with putty.. try putting something there, and you wont have permission [21:54] ls shows me the files/folders in there from putty [21:55] alaing: sure.. but you probably dont have permission to put anything there... and thats why filezilla is failing to connect to that location.. just let filezilla connect to the /home of the user, and put the files there, and move them from putty to where you want them with sudo [21:56] ok i've redirected filezilla to the /home/myUser and its still timing out [21:57] alaing: what operating system are you connection from? [21:57] win 7 home prem [21:58] it gets to "Listing directory /home/myuser" [21:58] alaing: http://hartvig.de/2008/mounting-your-ssh-shares-in-microsoft-windows/ is an option [21:58] and then times out and gives this msg Error: Failed to retrieve directory listing [21:59] alaing: sometime i just blow it out and start over. username, port.. IP.. everything [22:00] download link does work on that linky [22:00] yeah i was afraid you were going to say that [22:01] are you sure filezilla is using sftp and not ftps? [22:02] fehwalker: well according to the site manaer its using sftp [22:02] alaing: its using ssh, since you are connecting ssh [22:03] sorry still not quiet confident on the cmd line [22:04] what command could I use to create a document in /var/www [22:04] just to see if it fails [22:05] nano to make a text document... or touch [22:06] how do you save and exit from nano? [22:06] alaing, touch [22:06] ^x? [22:06] alaing: Error: "x?" is not a valid command. [22:07] touch? [22:08] touch filename.html will make that file [22:08] touch /var/www/testing ; ls -l /var/www/testing [22:09] ^help [22:09] xsl: (help [] []) -- This command gives a useful description of what does. is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. [22:09] it createed it [22:09] so my user must have access to /var/www/ [22:09] and permission to write [22:14] i think i use vsftp on the server [22:15]