[00:01] <eduardosanzb> hello
[00:02] <eduardosanzb> i was installing ubunti on a nexus7, but after pushing all the files and, i guess flash the .img, the tablet never reboots!!
[00:02] <belak> eduardosanzb: how did you install it?
[00:03] <eduardosanzb> i follow the steps of the wiki
[00:03] <eduardosanzb> my n7 was unlocked already
[00:03] <eduardosanzb> right now is pushing the files
[00:04] <eduardosanzb> for third time
[00:04] <eduardosanzb> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install?action=show&redirect=TouchInstallProcess
[00:04] <belak> I had better luck doing it manually...
[00:05] <eduardosanzb> how do u do that?
[00:05] <eduardosanzb> install the zip from clockword?'
[00:06] <eduardosanzb> there are 2 .zip
[00:06] <eduardosanzb> in the downloads
[00:06] <Courtenay> anyone tryed multirom yet? i think i need a .img.gz
[00:06] <belak> You use fastboot to install the boot
[00:06] <belak> And then flash both the zips
[00:07] <eduardosanzb> but, never was downloaded the boot
[00:07] <belak> eduardosanzb: well, that's how I did it
[00:07] <eduardosanzb> ok
[00:08] <eduardosanzb> well, i dont know what just happend
[00:08] <eduardosanzb> lol
[00:08] <eduardosanzb> but the screen when the .img is installing has an error
[00:09] <eduardosanzb> the progress bar is super large and has red pixels
[00:09] <eduardosanzb> =(
[00:12] <eduardosanzb> i found this
[00:12] <eduardosanzb> http://liliputing.com/2013/02/how-to-install-ubuntu-touch-on-a-nexus-7-with-windows-mac-or-linux.html
[00:12] <AlanBell> hi eduardosanzb
[00:12] <eduardosanzb> hi
[00:17] <roasted> hello!
[00:17] <roasted> question - will this dev preview get OTA updates as time goes on?
[00:17] <roasted> or will we have to manually install/flash/etc to get updates?
[00:19] <GuidoPallemans> where can I find the source for the ubuntu phone internet application?
[00:19] <robertjw> apt-get is not in the path, it looks like there are no provisions in this early version for installs or updates
[00:26] <roasted> so
[00:26] <roasted> I opened a picture in gallery... and I can't seem to get out of full screen mode of this picture. lol??
[00:27] <roasted> oh, I see. I can scroll up and bring up a back button.
[00:32] <eduardosanzb> i did the manual install
[00:32] <eduardosanzb> but the tablet, never rebots
[00:32] <eduardosanzb> reboots
[00:33] <eduardosanzb> im going to do a full wipe
[00:35] <eduardosanzb> i need to wait too mucho for the first boot?
[00:43] <GuidoPallemans> what apps have settings?
[00:50] <robertjw> I should correct a statement I made earlier.  apt-get is in the path after you change context with 'ubuntu_chroot shell'
[00:52] <robertjw> roasted: so you should be able to do updates from a usb shell
[00:52] <roasted> oh?
[00:53] <robertjw> I just tried doing updates and apt-get went through all the right motions, but there were no packages needing update
[00:53] <roasted> how on earth did you get to apt-get?
[00:53] <roasted> did you find terminal?
[00:53] <robertjw> there are two ways
[00:53] <robertjw> first, the device supports adb
[00:54] <roasted> are you experiencing any slowness as you load on more apps?
[00:54] <robertjw> so you can do "adb root; adb shell"  and that will give you a root command prompt on the device
[00:55] <robertjw> then on that command prompt, do "ubuntu_chroot shell" to get into a context with access to apt-get
[00:56] <robertjw> the second way, is to use your usb adb connection to install openssh-server and then you can ssh directly through your wifi connection
[00:56] <robertjw> that's what i'm doing now
[01:13] <usererror> anyone else getting a blank screen?  tried redownloading and flashing the files again using phablet-flash 3 times now.. just a black screen.. gave it about 35 minutes and so far nothing past black.. am I not giving it long enough or is should I try manually pushing the files?
[01:16] <usererror> okay I got a loading bar now
[01:16] <usererror> progress bar* on a gray screen
[01:16] <usererror> so apparently 4th time is the charm?
[01:25] <usererror> :) okay well it sorted itself out
[02:49] <LarrySteeze> hello my friends!
[02:49] <LarrySteeze> just wanted to check in to see if anyone knew where I could find a list of devs for this project
[04:36] <ethana3> I just installed Ubuntu Touch Preview on my Nexus 10, how long should I wait for it to boot up?
[04:37] <ethana3> I waited for what felt like an hour, and it was just a black screen with the backlight on
[04:37] <ethana3> and then restarted it.. and reflashed it
[04:37] <ethana3> now it's sitting there black with the backlight on again
[04:38] <ethana3> #colemak
[04:38] <ethana3> oops, sorry, forgot the /join
[04:41] <ethana3> I can't turn it off, no matter what I do it just starts back up, does nothing, and slowly decreases the life of the screen LEDs
[04:44] <rsalveti> ethana3: can you check the amount of disk space you have at /data?
[04:44] <rsalveti> you need at least 2gb there
[04:44] <rsalveti> run adb shell
[04:45] <ethana3> rsalveti: I thought it wiped everything?
[04:45]  * ethana3 runs adb shell
[04:45] <rsalveti> see if you have /data/ubuntu/
[04:45] <ethana3> k
[04:45] <rsalveti> ethana3: we're still not formating /data/ by default
[04:45] <ethana3> can't cd, permission denied
[04:46] <ethana3> cd /data/ubuntu says no such file or directory
[04:46] <rsalveti> ethana3: yeah, probably not enough disk space
[04:46] <ethana3> rsalveti: I backed everything up
[04:46] <rsalveti> we're working on a fix, but meanwhile just boot to recovery, format /data and flash it again
[04:47] <ethana3> should I just start deleting videos from my DCIM?
[04:50] <rsalveti> ethana3: that is also an option, but formating is always the safe choice
[04:50] <rsalveti> as you got backup going already
[04:50] <ethana3> ok, I can't boot into recovery with actual options; i'm trying to do this through adb
[04:51] <ethana3> ok, ran "recovery --wipe_data" in adb shell.
[04:51] <ethana3> looks like it's doing things.
[04:52] <ethana3> reflashing
[04:56] <ethana3> ok, it's going through the flashing process on the tablet again
[04:57] <doomlord> what do you get access to in c++ on ubuntu-tablet
[05:05] <ethana3> rsalveti: do you know how long I should wait for it to boot up before I conclude that something failed? Is an hour excessive?
[05:06] <rsalveti> ethana3: yeah
[05:06] <rsalveti> it should come up right away
[05:06] <rsalveti> the black screen usually means it didn't flash the ubuntu file correctly
[05:06] <ethana3> rsalveti: ....ah. then it failed again
[05:06] <rsalveti> ethana3: then go to recovery
[05:06] <rsalveti> ethana3: install zip
[05:07] <rsalveti> and install the quantal-....ubuntu.zip
[05:07] <ethana3> I don't think I can get there...
[05:07] <rsalveti> see if that works
[05:07] <rsalveti> adb reboot recovery
[05:07] <ethana3> aahhhhh
[05:08] <ethana3> it went straight to the open-chassis android with the spinny icosatertradacteron or whatever
[05:08] <ethana3> and a progress bar
[05:08] <rsalveti> right, that's probably the autoflash working now
[05:08] <rsalveti> that should take 1 minute
[05:08] <ethana3> k
[05:10] <ethana3> that bar always seems to get to about 80% before it just restarts or whatever it does next
[05:11] <ethana3> it rebooted O.o
[05:12] <ethana3> twice
[05:12] <rsalveti> right
[05:12] <ethana3> UBUNTU!
[05:12] <rsalveti> \o/
[05:12] <ethana3> it looks AMAZING
[05:12] <ethana3> rsalveti: you have saved my sanity tonight, I haven't been this excited for quite some time
[05:12] <ethana3> rsalveti: thank you SO MUCH
[05:12] <rsalveti> :D
[05:13] <ethana3> I can't wait to show everyone at work :D
[05:13] <ethana3> hmm, it froze
[05:14] <rsalveti> I'd suspect that the flash kind of worked
[05:14] <rsalveti> due the reboots
[05:14] <ethana3> booting it up again..
[05:14] <rsalveti> copy quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip to /sdcard/
[05:15] <rsalveti> then recovery and install that via the zip option
[05:15] <rsalveti> make sure you don't have /sdcard/autoflash.zip
[05:15] <ethana3> hmm, i'm at the home screen, it's responsive now
[05:16] <ethana3> adb shell still works; I guess it's not running on the tablet... or running on a part of the Android kernel that Ubuntu still uses?
[05:16] <rsalveti> latter
[05:17] <ethana3> I don't see autoflash.zip in /sdcard
[05:17] <rsalveti> cool, then the flash procedure was done
[05:17] <rsalveti> just weird that it rebooted 2 times
[05:18] <rsalveti> it shouldn't
[05:18] <rsalveti> in case of big issues and big crashes try flashing just the ubuntu part again
[05:18] <rsalveti> there's one ui freeze that we know and if you open too many apps the shell will crash
[05:18] <ethana3> k
[05:18] <rsalveti> we're working to fix that asap
[05:20] <ethana3> does wifi work on the Nexus 10?
[05:20] <rsalveti> yup
[05:20] <ethana3> AHA, found it
[05:20] <ethana3> interesting.
[05:21] <doomlord> ubuntu website says c++/gl is supported .. are there SDK samples for this..'hello triang;e'  in ubuntu-tablet
[05:23] <rsalveti> time to go, cya
[13:33] <gurix> hey hey, great work as far as i can see
[13:34] <ali1234> gurix: everyone is in #ubuntu-phone
[13:34] <gurix> so phone and tablet is almost the same technicaly speaking?
[13:35] <Walther> gurix: that is pretty much the reason the repository is called "phablet", no matter how much many people hate that "word"
[13:36] <ali1234> gurix: they use identical root filesystem
[13:36] <gurix> sounds logical to me, but i am not an ubuntu coder so i don't know their repositories
[13:37] <gurix> half a your ago I bought an adroid tablet and after all I am really disappointed
[13:39] <gurix> so is there any chance to get ubuntu tablet working an older tablet or is the first versions only for dedicated hardware?
[13:41] <ali1234> unofficial ports are in progress
[13:41] <ali1234> what tablet do you have?
[13:42] <gurix> Acer Iconia Tab A510
[13:42] <k1l> gurix: make sure they meet the minimum requirements
[13:42] <k1l> gurix: and then you will need someone to port it to your device.
[13:42] <k1l> (and keep in mind its not a full working OS yet. just in preview state)
[13:42] <ali1234> gurix: that should be doable
[13:43] <ali1234> hardware is good enough at least
[13:43] <ali1234> tegra3 = same as nexus 7
[13:44] <gurix> is there any documentation how to build and install it?
[13:45] <ali1234> yes https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
[13:47] <gurix> oh yeah just found it too. That would help for the moment. Thanks guys
[14:12] <Walther> Any news on dualboot support?
[15:09] <ptl> hi
[15:09] <ptl> what's the URL of the hangout?
[15:09] <ptl> ubuntuonair.com does not show it
[15:10] <ali1234> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOvGullZwcw&feature=plcp&newstate=d51b25c17af5ed0dd58f1333b86cfc60
[16:37] <bcurtiswx> in the tablet edition, what editor can i install to edit system files ?
[16:46] <genii-around> Heh, Jose Antonio seems to be on every *buntu video
[16:56] <bcurtiswx> seems the nexus7 can't connect to secure networks, and when i have to login to a non-secure network it only lets me type in 2 characters to the login field before it acts funny
[16:57] <bcurtiswx> can i launch the browser from shell ?
[17:13] <doomlord> for C++ applications, what libraries/interfaces are available.. how does your program interact with the rest of the UI
[17:46] <bcurtiswx> how do you quit an app? seems like i'm just missing something
[17:54] <mhall119> bcurtiswx: https://plus.google.com/u/0/109919666334513536939/posts/ELTLYHFqNdo
[18:05] <bcurtiswx> mhall119, weird that icon to close doesn't light up for me..
[18:08] <bcurtiswx> reboot fixed it
[19:23] <doomlord> anyone here using c++ to develop for ubuntu-tablet?
[19:36] <doomlord> ubuntu-arm only runs on N7 ?
[19:37] <doomlord> i think from what i've seen its ubuntu-arm that interests me more
[19:37] <doomlord> the desktop
[19:40] <ali1234> yeah
[19:42] <doomlord> dual boot that + android would be perfect
[19:43] <doomlord> rework desktop apps to be more touchfriendly generally
[19:46] <doomlord> will optimization of browser on ubuntu-tablet feed back into ubuntu-arm-desktop..
[19:49] <ali1234> i doubt it considering that desktop uses firefox and tablet uses some qt webkit thing :)
[19:50] <doomlord> so perhaps its possible to get a desktop browser based on the same qt webkit
[19:51] <ali1234> sure
[19:52] <ali1234> that would likely run faster than firefox today
[19:52] <doomlord> kde is all qt based right? konqueror
[19:52] <ali1234> it would also lack most features
[19:52] <doomlord> oh maybe there isnt much precompiled for arm
[21:06] <myusdat> Ali1234 :-D
[21:06] <myusdat> Hi everybody
[21:50] <oreneeshy> myusdat: conversation is on #ubuntu-phone
[22:08] <darent> hello
[22:09] <darent> does somebody know what are the requirements to run ubuntu on a tablet?
[22:09] <darent> i mean, any dual core tablet will do?
[22:11] <k1l> no not any
[22:12] <k1l> darent: http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/tablet/partner
[22:13] <k1l> and open bootloader and such. today there are only nexus7 and nexus10 officially supported. but the community will port it to other tablets.
[22:13] <darent> i see... no chance to have it done with any  100€ tablet hehe
[22:13] <k1l> but there is the demo version only, yet.
[22:14] <darent> also, does it run a whole ubuntu system with debian repositories and all that or is it a different system
[22:14] <darent> ?
[22:14] <k1l> its different
[22:14] <darent> that's kind of dissapointing... at least for me
[22:15] <darent> but i supose we'll have to wait and see
[22:15] <k1l> read the ubuntu.com pages i gave you
[22:16] <darent> ok, thanks k1l
[22:17] <darent> i got a little confused between the ubuntu tablet, ubuntu phone and the ubuntu for android things xD
[22:19] <darent> i supose i'll get a new tablet soon, but a cheap one, and install ubuntu in a chroot
[22:26] <darent> ok, good night people, and thanks
[23:29] <doomlord> will ubuntu tablet applications run in a window in regular desktop ubuntu (however bad it may be with mouse)
[23:39] <ali1234> doomlord: maybe, with some hacking