[04:15] Good morning [04:15] Maaz: tell kilos good morning [04:16] inetpro: Sure, I'll tell Kilos on freenode [05:53] good morning [06:01] morning all [06:21] hi henkj [06:24] hi Kilos [06:44] mmmm, the smell of Kubuntu 13.04 [06:44] (it's good) [06:47] morning maiatoday [06:47] hi superfly [06:47] are people going to the jam in ct? [06:47] I plan to [06:48] I am also trying to organise my life so I can :D [06:49] wb Kilos [06:50] ty inetpro thats from looking at stuff you dont understand [06:50] superfly: you upgraded already? [06:50] what is USSD [06:50] in modem-manager-gui [06:50] Unstructured Supplementary Service Data (USSD) is a protocol used by GSM cellular telephones to communicate with the service provider's computers. [06:51] USSD can be used for WAP browsing, prepaid callback service, mobile-money services, location-based content services, menu-based information services, and as part of configuring the phone on the network. [06:51] it sent received some message and some message in weird writing and removed my launcher [06:52] ty , but will leave it alone in future [06:52] Kilos: USSD is what you use when you purchase a data bundle [06:52] oh [06:52] on your mobile phone [06:53] maybe one must put something in before sending [06:53] beyond me [06:53] was a long night [06:53] but 12.04.2 iso is burned to cd [06:54] i love k3b [06:54] mooi! [06:54] After entering a USSD code on a GSM handset, the reply from the GSM operator is displayed within a few seconds [06:54] like IM [06:54] almost like pidgin [06:54] lol only gonna lose 27m nightsurfer this time [06:55] yeah but it was in kinda strange writing like chinese or jap or something [06:56] k3b also makes the iso smaller somehow [06:56] no [06:56] 735m iso was burned as 698m [06:57] hi jrgns [06:58] morning Kilos, all [06:59] hi superfly [06:59] inetpro, no? [07:00] Kilos: how do you measure the difference in size? [07:00] i read what it says [07:01] ai! [07:02] also now we mention it when we spoke about larger cds i read a link where someone couldnt burn an iso to cd with brasero because cd was to small and he was advised to try k3b and it fitted [07:02] interesting [07:03] my kde that i downloaded the iso wouldnt work with brasero that started the discussion [07:03] then k3b worked and i got kubuntu 12.04 [07:04] so retract your no [07:04] and the ai? [07:04] lol [07:04] rofl [07:04] hi magespawn [07:04] k3b rocks [07:04] hey Kilos [07:05] magespawn, do you supply cds from downloaded isos to peeps? [07:05] if so you must try the zsync and supply updated cds rather [07:06] works wonderfully [07:06] Kilos: it's probably just a difference in options [07:06] i will give it a go, not many people want it though unfortunately [07:07] even for yourself then you will do installs with updated cds [07:08] i will slexy the instructions [07:08] gotta watch data bit though [07:09] 60m for 6 days [07:09] wish 8ta would change rechges to valid for 2 months from date of purchase [07:12] oh ill give on my channel [07:12] ty Kilos [07:12] not much and no threat of being kicked for spam [07:13] lol by the pro [07:13] lol [07:13] yeah the evil one [07:13] * Kilos ducks [07:13] get ready for an'ai' [07:13] lol [07:14] Kilos: you still have not answered my question [07:14] now he will try confuss my head to get away from his retraction [07:14] 735m iso was burned as 698m [07:14] what question inetpro [07:14] Kilos: how do you measure the difference in size? [07:15] i didnt measure k3b told me it was gonna burn 698m [07:15] i read everything while it works [07:15] the data on the cd is no longer an iso [07:16] its an image? [07:16] it's just data [07:17] k3b is not touching your original iso [07:17] ok ill check up on the two cds i have and go properties and see whats the outcome [07:17] and thus not making it smaller [07:18] so what you are doing is you are comparing apples with pears [07:18] hi Kilos, inetpro [07:18] yeah i prefer pears [07:18] inetpro: yes, I upgraded yesterday... KDE 4.10 is pretty sweet [07:18] superfly: good to hear that [07:19] yo Vince-0 [07:19] Kilos: obviously you can take the data on the cd and make an iso from that again, then you compare apples with apples [07:20] Hi [07:20] morning Vince-0 [07:20] hi [07:21] inetpro, all thats of any importance is that k3b fits data to cd when brasero cant [07:21] hi ThatGraemeGuy [07:21] hi Kilos [07:21] morning all [07:21] Kilos: that is a different topic [07:21] ai! [07:21] you in one of those moods again [07:21] :-) [07:22] lol [07:22] swine [07:22] but seriously dont you think its a good idea to do the zsync bit inetpro [07:23] then all the early bugs are sorted arent they [07:23] nothing wrong with zsinc, I love it [07:24] me too now and it helps to not lose night surfer data [07:26] bad for the sleep pattern though [07:27] now unity wants to update 93m. sigh. hope i got everything blocked [07:30] maybe the peeps that give out cds at parties and UH's should rather give out zsynced cds [07:31] that will make it easier for noobs methinks [07:31] am i wrong? [07:38] Vince-0, zsync rocks [08:09] Kilos: finally cleared 'work', now going back to work on the donated pc to see if i can get in running [08:09] good work, whats wrong that one again? [08:10] magespawn, ^ [08:10] old pc no hard drive or os [08:11] the lappy? [08:11] the one you ran from the stick [08:12] no this is that old desktop that dropped off her, think we decided on a minimal ubuntu f or the install [08:12] ^someone s/her/here [08:12] with no drive? [08:12] or you put one in [08:13] typo gremlins here today [08:13] hehe\ [08:13] had drive but was broken [08:13] broken how [08:13] did you try fixing it yet [08:13] but was also not booting with cd drive plugged on the board [08:14] read/write heads sound stuck [08:14] eek [08:14] clack clack [08:16] do you hear it trying to find the boot sector [08:27] more of a ting noiuse [08:32] over and over or just once? [08:32] over and over [08:32] maybe mbr messed [08:33] you wanna try fix the drive or put another one in [08:33] if fix go my channel [08:33] sucks talk [08:33] sigh [08:56] good morning [08:56] Maaz: coffee on [08:56] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [08:56] hi charl_ [09:00] Coffee's ready for charl_! [09:04] * staticrat waves hello [09:04] * Kilos waves [09:04] hey kilos, how u doing [09:04] good ty and you? [09:05] ssdd.... [09:05] so got a new one for you clever linux users to help me with [09:05] lol [09:06] ive never even seen one [09:06] lol.....well im trying to install komodo-edit [09:06] which I am not getting right [09:06] what does google tell you [09:07] it tells me how to install but when I run the commands from terminal it doesnt work [09:07] check this link [09:07] http://ashu-geek.blogspot.com/2012/11/komodo-edit-71-released-with-language.html [09:07] i cant browse till the 1st [09:07] out of cap? [09:07] lol [09:07] ya 60m for 6 days [09:08] hehe [09:08] what is komodo edit [09:08] hehehe....thats not to bad was yesterday in a vodashop and they could not help because they reached their cap limit [09:08] lol [09:08] i mean wtf [09:08] i'm looking at the URL, which part are you stuck on? [09:09] hey ya ThatGraemeGuy ...well the last command sudo apt-get install komodo-edit [09:09] when I run this my terminal display the following message: [09:10] staticrat@LinuxRule:~$ sudo apt-get install komodo-edit [09:10] Reading package lists... Done [09:10] Building dependency tree [09:10] Reading state information... Done [09:10] E: Unable to locate package komodo-edit [09:10] did the 'add-apt-repository' and 'apt-get update' commands complete without error? [09:11] the apt-get update failed [09:12] http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/07/komodo-edit-7-releasedinstall-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/ [09:12] failed to fetch this update [09:12] what does 'lsb_release -c' say? [09:13] * staticrat just need everyone to know I am still rather new to linux [09:13] how and where do I run that command? [09:13] in a terminal [09:13] well ya lol [09:14] ~$ lsb_release -c [09:14] Codename: precise [09:14] that all I get [09:14] mmm [09:14] i also used this website [09:14] http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/07/komodo-edit-7-releasedinstall-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/ [09:15] just substituted the package name to the new one 7.1.3 [09:15] all commands worked but I cannot find the app [09:17] mmm that's odd, if you didn't get any errors along the way, those instructions looks as if they should work fine :-/ [09:17] if you don't come right now i'll give it a try a bit later [09:18] thx much appreciated....also thought one of these should work but its not even displaying in search results from my dash yet it did go through the install process [09:19] running komodo-edit or komodo from terminal also doesnt start the app [09:20] ok when running sudo apt-get update it stops at the following [09:20] 100% [Connecting to ppa.launchpad.net (91.189.95.83)] [09:21] maybe the site is down [09:21] oh not launchpad [09:21] it is after this when it starts to say: [09:21] Err http://ppa.launchpad.net precise Release.gpg [09:21] Unable to connect to ppa.launchpad.net:http: [09:21] Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net precise Release [09:21] Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net precise/main TranslationIndex [09:21] Err http://ppa.launchpad.net precise/main Sources [09:21] Unable to connect to ppa.launchpad.net:http: [09:21] Err http://ppa.launchpad.net precise/main i386 Packages [09:21] Unable to connect to ppa.launchpad.net:http: [09:21] Err http://ppa.launchpad.net precise/main Translation-en_ZA [09:21] Unable to connect to ppa.launchpad.net:http: [09:22] Err http://ppa.launchpad.net precise/main Translation-en [09:22] Unable to connect to ppa.launchpad.net:http: [09:22] Fetched 452 kB in 1min 3s (7 115 B/s) [09:22] W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/mystic-mirage/komodo-edit/ubuntu/dists/precise/Release.gpg Unable to connect to ppa.launchpad.net:http: [09:22] W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/mystic-mirage/komodo-edit/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/source/Sources Unable to connect to ppa.launchpad.net:http: [09:22] whew [09:22] W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/mystic-mirage/komodo-edit/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-i386/Packages Unable to connect to ppa.launchpad.net:http: [09:22] W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/mystic-mirage/komodo-edit/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/i18n/Translation-en_ZA Unable to connect to ppa.launchpad.net:http: [09:22] W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/mystic-mirage/komodo-edit/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/i18n/Translation-en Unable to connect to ppa.launchpad.net:http: [09:22] E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead. [09:22] lol sorry dont mean to spam you folks [09:22] lotsa stuff like that you must put in a pastebin [09:22] like slexy.org [09:22] explain? [09:22] pastebin that stuff next time: http://slexy.org/ [09:22] http://slexy.org [09:23] sorry did not know [09:23] you paste a lot of stuff there and just give us the link [09:23] then you copy paste it to there and it will gfive a link [09:23] sorry ThatGraemeGuy [09:23] oh ok i see will remember that one [09:23] thx guys [09:26] later all === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [10:01] staticrat: it's called pastebin.com [10:06] 'ello [10:06] afternoon, ThatGraemeGuy :-) [10:06] so it is! :) [10:06] time flies when you're tearing your hair out [10:07] That it does... [10:21] thank you superfly [11:08] Kilos: there's no difference between a zsynced cd and the latest release on cd [11:10] ya ty inetpro . meant for those who have first release cds and min data [11:10] hmmmmm [11:11] o/ aloha [11:20] trying out Kubuntu 13.04 Alpha 2 [11:21] lo nuvolari [11:21] hi nuvolari, Kilos, zeref, inetpro [11:24] does anyone still use identica/statusnet ? [11:25] well obviously some people use it but i mean, any of the people here :) [11:30] isnt inetpro and some the floss peeps there [11:30] oh the floss.pro thing, but i thought the whole site closed down [11:31] i stopped using it when i got rib of gwibber [11:31] i dunno [11:31] inetpro, comments? [11:31] it seems like the site is kaput and last post is from a year ago, although it's still online [11:32] what was the name of the guy who was running it... i forgot it [11:33] um [11:34] something with an f methinks [11:34] ah karl fischer [11:34] hey guys [11:34] ya thats it [11:34] thought it was something german sounding but i forgot it [11:34] yo zeref [11:37] i'm having troule with some bash script: http://pastebin.com/Erer0yYv [11:37] echo ${size[5]} comes up empty [11:38] but when i run only the for loop for that array, the value shows up??? === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [11:59] zeref: where is i initially defined? Is it some kind of implicit variable? Should it be reset between loops? [12:06] Also, you need spaces around + for your expr to work. [12:07] hi back [12:07] yup that would be the problem as far as i can see - i [12:07] and you need to initialise it [12:08] i=0 before both loops [12:08] You definitely need spaces around the plus, otherwise you just keep appending +1 as a string. I'm guessing nothing (the initial value of i) is evaluated as zero, so the first loop works, and then i is set to the last position so the second loop doesn't. [12:09] Yup. [12:09] oh i see, so that's why the first iteration works... [12:09] The first loop works by fluke, because Bash is tolerant like that. :P [12:09] i hate implicit, big fan of explicit [12:10] sounds like php :P === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [12:12] ahhh [12:12] thanks confluency [12:13] np [12:14] you wouldn't normally have had this problem due to scoping but i guess bash doesn't have that either :P === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [12:40] I sorta got komodo to work... [12:42] the only thing is: komodo edit is not showing in my dash.....found a shortcut to start komodo edit in my /home/username/komodo-edit-7/bin [12:44] will have to poke around some more to figure this one out [12:44] maybe a Unity boffin can help with that, i don't know the first thing about unity :( [12:44] * tonberry352_ rage quited unity a long time ago [12:52] staticrat: whats the prob? [12:53] hi zeref [12:54] I was trying to install komodo-edit [12:54] k [12:54] however with sudo apt-get update [12:55] it hangs at: 100% [Connecting to ppa.launchpad.net (91.189.95.83)] [12:55] seems it could not connect to launchpad to download additional files [12:56] i then tried the following [12:56] http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/07/komodo-edit-7-releasedinstall-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/ [12:56] k [12:56] this installed komodo in /home/username/komodo-edit7 [12:57] oh, so you looking to add it to the dash launcher? [12:58] not exactly...I cannot start the app from terminal just by typing komodo or komodo-edit and there no icon in the dash under applications [12:59] I can only start the app in /home/username/komodo-edit-7/bin/komodo-edit-7 [12:59] just think it bit weird for the app not to show under applications, or am i wrong? [13:00] maybe the app does not have a .desktop file [13:00] you will need to create one. /usr/share/applications [13:00] you will see all the .desktop filesthere [13:00] * files there [13:01] look at one of them to see how they are created. very easy [13:10] cool gimme a sec while i check [13:35] wow the upcoming kubuntu looks sexy [13:36] they finally decided to get a decent default wallpaper too haha http://i.imgur.com/gzT5j7w.jpg [13:37] i'm quite surprised at how responsive it is, even inside a virtual machine [13:40] ah i see, it's kde 4.10 [13:47] hi psyatw you still alive? [13:47] KDE 4.10 FTW [13:48] yes [13:48] so far i am impressed, i might put this on my laptop too [13:48] after it's released, of course ;) [13:48] two more months to go [13:49] i have some issues with the new oxygen theme and icon tasks, but nothing a bit of hackery can't fix [13:49] hmmmm [13:49] Haven't tried the Oxygen plasma theme [13:49] considering how kde4 was at the start, we have come a long way [13:49] oh no I meant air [13:49] the default one [13:50] it no longer draws borders around the non foreground tasks [13:50] trying oxygen now, susprised at how fast it switches themes [13:51] which is fine until you use unity/windows7 style shortcuts on the taskbar [13:51] then it becomes impossible to see which of the shortcuts are running programs [14:38] i am quite impressed with linux mint kde as well although it uses a slightly older version of kde4 (4.9) [14:59] ciao peeps, its weekend time! [15:16] inetpro, gaan huisetoe [15:16] hoekom? [15:17] jy's moeg [15:18] en omdat jy daar bly thats why [15:33] lo ludo [15:45] lo Kilos [15:48] good evening all! [15:52] ai! [15:52] wat? [15:53] ek's moeg man [15:53] dis wat ek se gaan huistoe [15:53] oja [15:53] en was jou ore vanaand laat jy kan hoor en luister nie net hoor nie [16:19] So wat maak almal vanaand? [16:20] the usual... running after children [16:20] hehe poor fly [16:20] hi Cantide [16:21] hello :) [16:22] superfly, het jy nou al twee?!? Hoe oud is hulle, want as ek? 4 jaar? [16:23] ludo: the eldest is a little older than 3 and a half [16:23] the youngest turned 7 months yesterday [16:24] 4 is close enough ;) Congrats. But it just reminded me how time flies(no pun intended) [16:46] has anyone here played with the developer preview of Ubuntu Touch? [17:22] evening all [17:22] hi magespawn [17:23] * Kilos cries [17:23] and now i will cycle a few km to watch the rugby~ [17:23] bbl! [17:23] what up Kilos ? [17:23] my weller soldering iron element died as i wanted to start soldering the sata cable onto that 500g drive [17:24] ouch [17:24] now i gotta use a ordinary iron and file the tip till its tiny [17:25] mind you it has lasted since 1986 so shouldnt complain [17:25] only tips been replaced in all that time [17:26] hows things your side magespawn [17:26] hi nlsthzn [17:26] okay, well at least you have a back up [17:26] we min here again [17:27] not bad early morning, so will need bed time early tonight [17:27] ah [17:30] maybe the others have social lives [17:30] lol yeah [17:31] superfly busy with the family probable [17:31] eh? [17:31] ya but he still shows. the others are gone [17:32] say something off and get an 'ai' from inetpro [17:33] huh? [17:34] hahaha [17:34] there we go got a 'eh?' and a 'huh?' hey Kilos [17:34] pears are better than apples [17:35] yeah now we not so lonely anymore [17:38] quick ask them something before they leave [17:39] or go back to sleep [17:42] ...zzz [17:43] rofl [17:43] superfly, are you on kubuntu or kde debian [17:44] kubuntu still [17:44] yay [17:44] and its better than the old ones? [17:45] smooth doesnt explain in a way i can savvy [17:47] things like switching between applications, minimizing, maximising, it's all smoother, less judders, less sudden movements [17:47] everything flows [17:47] anyways, housework calls [17:48] ah then ill try get with night surfer next week [17:48] enjoy [18:04] night all [18:07]