[04:15] <inetpro> Good morning 
[04:15] <inetpro> Maaz: tell kilos good morning 
[04:16] <Maaz> inetpro: Sure, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[05:53] <magespawn> good morning
[06:01] <Kilos> morning all
[06:21] <Kilos> hi henkj 
[06:24] <henkj> hi Kilos 
[06:44] <superfly> mmmm, the smell of Kubuntu 13.04
[06:44] <superfly> (it's good)
[06:47] <superfly> morning maiatoday
[06:47] <maiatoday> hi superfly
[06:47] <maiatoday> are people going to the jam in ct?
[06:47] <superfly> I plan to
[06:48] <maiatoday> I am also trying to organise my life so I can :D
[06:49] <inetpro> wb Kilos
[06:50] <Kilos> ty inetpro thats from looking at stuff you dont understand
[06:50] <inetpro> superfly: you upgraded already?
[06:50] <Kilos> what is USSD
[06:50] <Kilos> in modem-manager-gui
[06:50] <inetpro> Unstructured Supplementary Service Data (USSD) is a protocol used by GSM cellular telephones to communicate with the service provider's computers. 
[06:51] <inetpro> USSD can be used for WAP browsing, prepaid callback service, mobile-money services, location-based content services, menu-based information services, and as part of configuring the phone on the network.
[06:51] <Kilos> it sent received some message and some message in weird writing and removed my launcher
[06:52] <Kilos> ty , but will leave it alone in future
[06:52] <inetpro> Kilos: USSD is what you use when you purchase a data bundle
[06:52] <Kilos> oh
[06:52] <inetpro> on your mobile phone
[06:53] <Kilos> maybe one must put something in before sending
[06:53] <Kilos> beyond me
[06:53] <Kilos> was a long night
[06:53] <Kilos> but 12.04.2 iso is burned to cd
[06:54] <Kilos> i love k3b
[06:54] <inetpro> mooi!
[06:54] <inetpro> After entering a USSD code on a GSM handset, the reply from the GSM operator is displayed within a few seconds
[06:54] <inetpro> like IM
[06:54] <inetpro> almost like pidgin
[06:54] <Kilos> lol only gonna lose 27m nightsurfer this time
[06:55] <Kilos> yeah but it was in kinda strange writing like chinese or jap or something
[06:56] <Kilos> k3b also makes the iso smaller somehow
[06:56] <inetpro> no
[06:56] <Kilos> 735m iso was burned as 698m
[06:57] <Kilos> hi jrgns 
[06:58] <jrgns> morning Kilos, all
[06:59] <Kilos> hi superfly 
[06:59] <Kilos> inetpro, no?
[07:00] <inetpro> Kilos: how do you measure the difference in size?
[07:00] <Kilos> i read what it says
[07:01] <inetpro> ai!
[07:02] <Kilos> also now we mention it when we spoke about larger cds i read a link where someone couldnt burn an iso to cd with brasero because cd was to small and he was advised to try k3b and it fitted
[07:02] <inetpro> interesting
[07:03] <Kilos> my kde that i downloaded the iso wouldnt work with brasero that started the discussion
[07:03] <Kilos> then k3b worked and i got kubuntu 12.04
[07:04] <Kilos> so retract your no
[07:04] <magespawn> and the ai?
[07:04] <magespawn> lol
[07:04] <Kilos> rofl
[07:04] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[07:04] <Kilos> k3b rocks
[07:04] <magespawn> hey Kilos 
[07:05] <Kilos> magespawn, do you supply cds from downloaded isos to peeps?
[07:05] <Kilos> if so you must try the zsync and supply updated cds rather
[07:06] <Kilos> works wonderfully
[07:06] <inetpro> Kilos: it's probably just a difference in options
[07:06] <magespawn> i will give it a go, not many people want it though unfortunately
[07:07] <Kilos> even for yourself then you will do installs with updated cds
[07:08] <Kilos> i will slexy the instructions
[07:08] <Kilos> gotta watch data bit though
[07:09] <Kilos> 60m for 6 days
[07:09] <Kilos> wish 8ta would change rechges to valid for 2 months from date of purchase
[07:12] <Kilos> oh ill give on my channel
[07:12] <magespawn> ty Kilos 
[07:12] <Kilos> not much and no threat of being kicked for spam
[07:13] <magespawn> lol by the pro
[07:13] <Kilos> lol
[07:13] <Kilos> yeah the evil one
[07:13]  * Kilos ducks
[07:13] <magespawn> get ready for an'ai'
[07:13] <Kilos> lol
[07:14] <inetpro> Kilos: you still have not answered my question
[07:14] <Kilos> now he will try confuss my head to get away from his retraction
 735m iso was burned as 698m 
[07:14] <Kilos> what question inetpro 
[07:14] <inetpro> Kilos: how do you measure the difference in size?
[07:15] <Kilos> i didnt measure k3b told me it was gonna burn 698m
[07:15] <Kilos> i read everything while it works
[07:15] <inetpro> the data on the cd is no longer an iso
[07:16] <Kilos> its an image?
[07:16] <inetpro> it's just data
[07:17] <inetpro> k3b is not touching your original iso
[07:17] <Kilos> ok ill check up on the two cds i have and go properties and see whats the outcome
[07:17] <inetpro> and thus not making it smaller
[07:18] <inetpro> so what you are doing is you are comparing apples with pears
[07:18] <superfly> hi Kilos, inetpro
[07:18] <Kilos> yeah i prefer pears
[07:18] <superfly> inetpro: yes, I upgraded yesterday... KDE 4.10 is pretty sweet
[07:18] <inetpro> superfly: good to hear that
[07:19] <Kilos> yo Vince-0 
[07:19] <inetpro> Kilos: obviously you can take the data on the cd and make an iso from that again, then you compare apples with apples
[07:20] <Vince-0> Hi
[07:20] <inetpro> morning Vince-0
[07:20] <Vince-0> hi
[07:21] <Kilos> inetpro, all thats of any importance is that k3b fits data to cd when brasero cant
[07:21] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy 
[07:21] <ThatGraemeGuy> hi Kilos 
[07:21] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning all
[07:21] <inetpro> Kilos: that is a different topic
[07:21] <Kilos> ai!
[07:21] <Kilos> you in one of those moods again
[07:21] <inetpro> :-)
[07:22] <Kilos> lol
[07:22] <Kilos> swine
[07:22] <Kilos> but seriously dont you think its a good idea to do the zsync bit inetpro 
[07:23] <Kilos> then all the early bugs are sorted arent they
[07:23] <inetpro> nothing wrong with zsinc, I love it
[07:24] <Kilos> me too now and it helps to not lose night surfer data
[07:26] <Kilos> bad for the sleep pattern though
[07:27] <Kilos> now unity wants to update 93m. sigh. hope i got everything blocked
[07:30] <Kilos> maybe the peeps that give out cds at parties and UH's should rather give out zsynced cds
[07:31] <Kilos> that will make it easier for noobs methinks
[07:31] <Kilos> am i wrong?
[07:38] <Kilos> Vince-0, zsync rocks
[08:09] <magespawn> Kilos: finally cleared 'work', now going back to work on the donated pc to see if i can get in running
[08:09] <Kilos> good work, whats wrong that one again?
[08:10] <Kilos> magespawn, ^
[08:10] <magespawn> old pc no hard drive or os
[08:11] <Kilos> the lappy?
[08:11] <Kilos> the one you ran from the stick
[08:12] <magespawn> no this is that old desktop that dropped off her, think we decided on a minimal ubuntu f or the install
[08:12] <magespawn> ^someone s/her/here
[08:12] <Kilos> with no drive?
[08:12] <Kilos> or you put one in
[08:13] <magespawn> typo gremlins here today
[08:13] <Kilos> hehe\
[08:13] <magespawn> had drive but was broken
[08:13] <Kilos> broken how
[08:13] <Kilos> did you try fixing it yet
[08:13] <magespawn> but was also not booting with cd drive plugged on the board
[08:14] <magespawn> read/write heads sound stuck
[08:14] <Kilos> eek
[08:14] <Kilos> clack clack
[08:16] <Kilos> do you hear it trying to find the boot sector
[08:27] <magespawn> more of a ting noiuse
[08:32] <Kilos> over and over or just once?
[08:32] <magespawn> over and over
[08:32] <Kilos> maybe mbr messed
[08:33] <Kilos> you wanna try fix the drive or put another one in
[08:33] <Kilos> if fix go my channel
[08:33] <Kilos> sucks talk
[08:33] <Kilos> sigh
[08:56] <charl_> good morning
[08:56] <charl_> Maaz: coffee on
[08:56]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[08:56] <Kilos> hi charl_ 
[09:00] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl_!
[09:04]  * staticrat waves hello 
[09:04]  * Kilos waves
[09:04] <staticrat> hey kilos, how u doing
[09:04] <Kilos> good ty and you?
[09:05] <staticrat> ssdd....
[09:05] <staticrat> so got a new one for you clever linux users to help me with
[09:05] <Kilos> lol
[09:06] <Kilos> ive never even seen one
[09:06] <staticrat> lol.....well im trying to install komodo-edit
[09:06] <staticrat> which I am not getting right
[09:06] <Kilos> what does google tell you
[09:07] <staticrat> it tells me how to install but when I run the commands from terminal it doesnt work
[09:07] <staticrat> check this link
[09:07] <staticrat> http://ashu-geek.blogspot.com/2012/11/komodo-edit-71-released-with-language.html
[09:07] <Kilos> i cant browse till the 1st
[09:07] <staticrat> out of cap?
[09:07] <staticrat> lol
[09:07] <Kilos> ya 60m for 6 days
[09:08] <Kilos> hehe
[09:08] <Kilos> what is komodo edit
[09:08] <staticrat> hehehe....thats not to bad was yesterday in a vodashop and they could not help because they reached their cap limit
[09:08] <Kilos> lol
[09:08] <staticrat> i mean wtf
[09:08] <ThatGraemeGuy> i'm looking at the URL, which part are you stuck on?
[09:09] <staticrat> hey ya ThatGraemeGuy ...well the last command sudo apt-get install komodo-edit
[09:09] <staticrat> when I run this my terminal display the following message:
[09:10] <staticrat> staticrat@LinuxRule:~$ sudo apt-get install komodo-edit
[09:10] <staticrat> Reading package lists... Done
[09:10] <staticrat> Building dependency tree       
[09:10] <staticrat> Reading state information... Done
[09:10] <staticrat> E: Unable to locate package komodo-edit
[09:10] <ThatGraemeGuy> did the 'add-apt-repository' and 'apt-get update' commands complete without error?
[09:11] <staticrat> the apt-get update failed
[09:12] <staticrat> http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/07/komodo-edit-7-releasedinstall-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/
[09:12] <staticrat> failed to fetch this update 
[09:12] <ThatGraemeGuy> what does 'lsb_release -c' say?
[09:13]  * staticrat just need everyone to know I am still rather new to linux
[09:13] <staticrat> how and where do I run that command?
[09:13] <ThatGraemeGuy> in a terminal
[09:13] <staticrat> well ya lol
[09:14] <staticrat> ~$ lsb_release -c
[09:14] <staticrat> Codename:	precise
[09:14] <staticrat> that all I get
[09:14] <ThatGraemeGuy> mmm
[09:14] <staticrat> i also used this website
[09:14] <staticrat> http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/07/komodo-edit-7-releasedinstall-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/
[09:15] <staticrat> just substituted the package name to the new one 7.1.3
[09:15] <staticrat> all commands worked but I cannot find the app 
[09:17] <ThatGraemeGuy> mmm that's odd, if you didn't get any errors along the way, those instructions looks as if they should work fine :-/
[09:17] <ThatGraemeGuy> if you don't come right now i'll give it a try a bit later
[09:18] <staticrat> thx much appreciated....also thought one of these should work but its not even displaying in search results from my dash yet it did go through the install process
[09:19] <staticrat> running komodo-edit or komodo from terminal also doesnt start the app
[09:20] <staticrat> ok when running sudo apt-get update it stops at the following 
[09:20] <staticrat> 100% [Connecting to ppa.launchpad.net (91.189.95.83)]  
[09:21] <Kilos> maybe the site is down
[09:21] <Kilos> oh not launchpad
[09:21] <staticrat> it is after this when it starts to say: 
[09:21] <staticrat> Err http://ppa.launchpad.net precise Release.gpg     
[09:21] <staticrat>   Unable to connect to ppa.launchpad.net:http:
[09:21] <staticrat> Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net precise Release
[09:21] <staticrat> Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net precise/main TranslationIndex
[09:21] <staticrat> Err http://ppa.launchpad.net precise/main Sources
[09:21] <staticrat>   Unable to connect to ppa.launchpad.net:http:
[09:21] <staticrat> Err http://ppa.launchpad.net precise/main i386 Packages
[09:21] <staticrat>   Unable to connect to ppa.launchpad.net:http:
[09:21] <staticrat> Err http://ppa.launchpad.net precise/main Translation-en_ZA
[09:21] <staticrat>   Unable to connect to ppa.launchpad.net:http:
[09:22] <staticrat> Err http://ppa.launchpad.net precise/main Translation-en
[09:22] <staticrat>   Unable to connect to ppa.launchpad.net:http:
[09:22] <staticrat> Fetched 452 kB in 1min 3s (7 115 B/s)
[09:22] <staticrat> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/mystic-mirage/komodo-edit/ubuntu/dists/precise/Release.gpg  Unable to connect to ppa.launchpad.net:http:
[09:22] <staticrat> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/mystic-mirage/komodo-edit/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/source/Sources  Unable to connect to ppa.launchpad.net:http:
[09:22] <Kilos> whew
[09:22] <staticrat> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/mystic-mirage/komodo-edit/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-i386/Packages  Unable to connect to ppa.launchpad.net:http:
[09:22] <staticrat> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/mystic-mirage/komodo-edit/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/i18n/Translation-en_ZA  Unable to connect to ppa.launchpad.net:http:
[09:22] <staticrat> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/mystic-mirage/komodo-edit/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/i18n/Translation-en  Unable to connect to ppa.launchpad.net:http:
[09:22] <staticrat> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[09:22] <staticrat> lol sorry dont mean to spam you folks
[09:22] <Kilos> lotsa stuff like that you must put in a pastebin
[09:22] <Kilos> like slexy.org
[09:22] <staticrat> explain?
[09:22] <ThatGraemeGuy> pastebin that stuff next time: http://slexy.org/
[09:22] <Kilos> http://slexy.org
[09:23] <staticrat> sorry did not know
[09:23] <ThatGraemeGuy> you paste a lot of stuff there and just give us the link
[09:23] <Kilos> then you copy paste it to there and it will gfive a link
[09:23] <Kilos> sorry ThatGraemeGuy 
[09:23] <staticrat> oh ok i see will remember that one
[09:23] <staticrat> thx guys
[09:26] <magespawn> later all
[10:01] <superfly> staticrat: it's called pastebin.com
[10:06] <ThatGraemeGuy> 'ello
[10:06] <superfly> afternoon, ThatGraemeGuy :-)
[10:06] <ThatGraemeGuy> so it is! :)
[10:06] <ThatGraemeGuy> time flies when you're tearing your hair out
[10:07] <superfly> That it does...
[10:21] <staticrat> thank you superfly 
[11:08] <inetpro> Kilos: there's no difference between a zsynced cd and the latest release on cd
[11:10] <Kilos> ya ty inetpro . meant for those who have first release cds and min data
[11:10] <zeref> hmmmmm
[11:11] <nuvolari> o/ aloha
[11:20] <charl_> trying out Kubuntu 13.04 Alpha 2
[11:21] <Kilos> lo nuvolari 
[11:21] <charl_> hi nuvolari, Kilos, zeref, inetpro 
[11:24] <charl_> does anyone still use identica/statusnet ?
[11:25] <charl_> well obviously some people use it but i mean, any of the people here :)
[11:30] <Kilos> isnt inetpro and some the floss peeps there
[11:30] <charl_> oh the floss.pro thing, but i thought the whole site closed down
[11:31] <Kilos> i stopped using it when i got rib of gwibber
[11:31] <Kilos> i dunno
[11:31] <Kilos> inetpro, comments?
[11:31] <charl_> it seems like the site is kaput and last post is from a year ago, although it's still online
[11:32] <charl_> what was the name of the guy who was running it... i forgot it
[11:33] <Kilos> um
[11:34] <Kilos> something with an f methinks
[11:34] <charl_> ah karl fischer
[11:34] <zeref> hey guys
[11:34] <Kilos> ya thats it
[11:34] <charl_> thought it was something german sounding but i forgot it
[11:34] <Kilos> yo zeref 
[11:37] <zeref> i'm having troule with some bash script: http://pastebin.com/Erer0yYv
[11:37] <zeref> echo ${size[5]} comes up empty
[11:38] <zeref> but when i run only the for loop for that array, the value shows up???
[11:59] <confluency> zeref: where is i initially defined? Is it some kind of implicit variable? Should it be reset between loops? 
[12:06] <confluency> Also, you need spaces around + for your expr to work.
[12:07] <charl_> hi back
[12:07] <charl_> yup that would be the problem as far as i can see - i
[12:07] <charl_> and you need to initialise it
[12:08] <charl_> i=0 before both loops
[12:08] <confluency> You definitely need spaces around the plus, otherwise you just keep appending +1 as a string. I'm guessing nothing (the initial value of i) is evaluated as zero, so the first loop works, and then i is set to the last position so the second loop doesn't.
[12:09] <confluency> Yup.
[12:09] <charl_> oh i see, so that's why the first iteration works...
[12:09] <confluency> The first loop works by fluke, because Bash is tolerant like that. :P
[12:09] <charl_> i hate implicit, big fan of explicit
[12:10] <charl_> sounds like php :P
[12:12] <zeref> ahhh
[12:12] <zeref> thanks confluency 
[12:13] <confluency> np
[12:14] <charl_> you wouldn't normally have had this problem due to scoping but i guess bash doesn't have that either :P
[12:40] <staticrat> I sorta got komodo to work...
[12:42] <staticrat> the only thing is: komodo edit is not showing in my dash.....found a shortcut to start komodo edit in my /home/username/komodo-edit-7/bin
[12:44] <staticrat> will have to poke around some more to figure this one out
[12:44] <ThatGraemeGuy> maybe a Unity boffin can help with that, i don't know the first thing about unity :(
[12:44]  * tonberry352_ rage quited unity a long time ago
[12:52] <zeref> staticrat: whats the prob?
[12:53] <staticrat> hi zeref 
[12:54] <staticrat> I was trying to install komodo-edit
[12:54] <zeref> k
[12:54] <staticrat> however with sudo apt-get update 
[12:55] <staticrat> it hangs at: 100% [Connecting to ppa.launchpad.net (91.189.95.83)] 
[12:55] <staticrat> seems it could not connect to launchpad to download additional files
[12:56] <staticrat> i then tried the following 
[12:56] <staticrat> http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/07/komodo-edit-7-releasedinstall-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/
[12:56] <zeref> k
[12:56] <staticrat> this installed komodo in /home/username/komodo-edit7
[12:57] <zeref> oh, so you looking to add it to the dash launcher?
[12:58] <staticrat> not exactly...I cannot start the app from terminal just by typing komodo or komodo-edit and there no icon in the dash under applications
[12:59] <staticrat> I can only start the app in /home/username/komodo-edit-7/bin/komodo-edit-7
[12:59] <staticrat> just think it bit weird for the app not to show under applications, or am i wrong?
[13:00] <zeref> maybe the app does not have a .desktop file
[13:00] <zeref> you will need to create one. /usr/share/applications
[13:00] <zeref> you will see all the .desktop filesthere
[13:00] <zeref> * files there
[13:01] <zeref> look at one of them to see how they are created. very easy
[13:10] <staticrat> cool gimme a sec while i check
[13:35] <charl_> wow the upcoming kubuntu looks sexy
[13:36] <charl_> they finally decided to get a decent default wallpaper too haha http://i.imgur.com/gzT5j7w.jpg
[13:37] <charl_> i'm quite surprised at how responsive it is, even inside a virtual machine
[13:40] <charl_> ah i see, it's kde 4.10
[13:47] <Kilos> hi psyatw you still alive?
[13:47] <superfly> KDE 4.10 FTW
[13:48] <tonberry352_> yes
[13:48] <charl_> so far i am impressed, i might put this on my laptop too
[13:48] <charl_> after it's released, of course ;)
[13:48] <charl_> two more months to go
[13:49] <tonberry352_> i have some issues with the new oxygen theme and icon tasks, but nothing a bit of hackery can't fix
[13:49] <zeref> hmmmm
[13:49] <superfly> Haven't tried the Oxygen plasma theme
[13:49] <charl_> considering how kde4 was at the start, we have come a long way
[13:49] <tonberry352_> oh no I meant air
[13:49] <tonberry352_> the default one
[13:50] <tonberry352_> it no longer draws borders around the non foreground tasks
[13:50] <charl_> trying oxygen now, susprised at how fast it switches themes
[13:51] <tonberry352_> which is fine until you use unity/windows7 style shortcuts on the taskbar
[13:51] <tonberry352_> then it becomes impossible to see which of the shortcuts are running programs
[14:38] <charl_> i am quite impressed with linux mint kde as well although it uses a slightly older version of kde4 (4.9)
[14:59] <ThatGraemeGuy> ciao peeps, its weekend time!
[15:16] <Kilos> inetpro, gaan huisetoe
[15:16] <inetpro> hoekom?
[15:17] <Kilos> jy's moeg
[15:18] <Kilos> en omdat jy daar bly thats why
[15:33] <Kilos> lo ludo
[15:45] <ludo> lo Kilos 
[15:48] <charl_> good evening all!
[15:52] <inetpro> ai!
[15:52] <Kilos> wat?
[15:53] <inetpro> ek's moeg man
[15:53] <Kilos> dis wat ek se gaan huistoe
[15:53] <inetpro> oja
[15:53] <Kilos> en was jou ore vanaand laat jy kan hoor en luister nie net hoor nie
[16:19] <ludo> So wat maak almal vanaand?
[16:20] <superfly> the usual... running after children
[16:20] <Kilos> hehe poor fly
[16:20] <Kilos> hi Cantide 
[16:21] <Cantide> hello :)
[16:22] <ludo> superfly, het jy nou al twee?!? Hoe oud is hulle, want as ek? 4 jaar?
[16:23] <superfly> ludo: the eldest is a little older than 3 and a half
[16:23] <superfly> the youngest turned 7 months yesterday
[16:24] <ludo> 4 is close enough ;) Congrats. But it just reminded me how time flies(no pun intended)
[16:46] <Cantide> has anyone here played with the developer preview of Ubuntu Touch?
[17:22] <magespawn> evening all
[17:22] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[17:23]  * Kilos cries
[17:23] <Cantide> and now i will cycle a few km to watch the rugby~
[17:23] <Cantide> bbl!
[17:23] <magespawn> what up Kilos ?
[17:23] <Kilos> my weller soldering iron element died as i wanted to start soldering the sata cable onto that 500g drive
[17:24] <magespawn> ouch
[17:24] <Kilos> now i gotta use a ordinary iron and file the tip till its tiny
[17:25] <Kilos> mind you it has lasted since 1986 so shouldnt complain
[17:25] <Kilos> only tips been replaced in all that time
[17:26] <Kilos> hows things your side magespawn 
[17:26] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn 
[17:26] <magespawn> okay, well at least you have a back up
[17:26] <Kilos> we min here again
[17:27] <magespawn> not bad early morning, so will need bed time early tonight
[17:27] <Kilos> ah
[17:30] <magespawn> maybe the others have social lives
[17:30] <Kilos> lol yeah
[17:31] <magespawn> superfly busy with the family probable
[17:31] <superfly> eh?
[17:31] <Kilos> ya but he still shows. the others are gone
[17:32] <magespawn> say something off and get an 'ai' from inetpro
[17:33] <inetpro> huh?
[17:34] <Kilos> hahaha
[17:34] <magespawn> there we go got a 'eh?' and a 'huh?' hey Kilos 
[17:34] <Kilos> pears are better than apples
[17:35] <Kilos> yeah now we not so lonely anymore
[17:38] <magespawn> quick ask them something before they leave
[17:39] <magespawn> or go back to sleep
[17:42] <superfly> ...zzz
[17:43] <Kilos> rofl
[17:43] <Kilos> superfly, are you on kubuntu or kde debian
[17:44] <superfly> kubuntu still
[17:44] <Kilos> yay
[17:44] <Kilos> and its better than the old ones?
[17:45] <Kilos> smooth doesnt explain in a way i can savvy
[17:47] <superfly> things like switching between applications, minimizing, maximising, it's all smoother, less judders, less sudden movements
[17:47] <superfly> everything flows
[17:47] <superfly> anyways, housework calls
[17:48] <Kilos> ah then ill try get with night surfer next week
[17:48] <Kilos> enjoy
[18:04] <magespawn> night all
[18:07] <inetpro> night all? already?
[18:08] <inetpro> mind you, I'm also tired
[18:08] <Kilos> night magespawn sleep tight
[18:27] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[18:27] <Kilos> gaan slapp inetpro 
[18:27] <Kilos> slaap ook
[18:52] <superfly> No rest for the weary... c'mon guys
[18:54] <Symmetria> hrm, wonder why 'safe' temps for a cpu are so much lower than 'safe' temps for a gfx card
[18:55] <Symmetria> I mean, safe for my cpu under load is like, 65 - 70 *MAX*, gfx card though apparently is safe at 90
[19:16] <superfly> tumbleweed: ping
[19:30] <tumbleweed> superfly: hi
[19:35] <superfly> tumbleweed: just trying to remember my package building skills 
[19:35] <superfly> but have had to take a slight detour around a few other things
[19:35] <superfly> hoping to get it done tonight though
[19:37] <tumbleweed> sure
[19:46] <superfly> OK, I'm getting there... just running through the packaging process locally to make sure it works, and that the patch works properly too
[19:56]  * superfly installs build-depends
[19:56] <superfly> tumbleweed: btw, I should be able to attend UGJ
[20:48] <superfly> tumbleweed: OK, almost done, just getting someone to review my patches to make sure I'm not doing something crazy to OpenLP. Once that's done, I'll merge into the main branch, tag it, and notify you again
[20:49] <superfly> lolzor, a diff of a diff :-)
[20:54] <superfly> tumbleweed: All done :-)
[20:54] <superfly> let me know if I need to do anything else
[21:01]  * tumbleweed looks
[21:11] <tumbleweed> superfly: your upstream tarball contains a .orig file
[21:11] <superfly> hrm, OK
[21:11] <superfly> must have crept in somewhere
[21:11] <tumbleweed> obviously that isn't a problem, just noting it
[21:11] <superfly> I can remove it if you think necessary?
[21:11] <tumbleweed> naah
[21:11] <superfly> OK
[21:11] <tumbleweed> debian policy 3.9.4 is out (again, not urgent)
[21:12] <tumbleweed> your copyright file doesn't acknowledge anything after 2004, but that's not new
[21:13] <tumbleweed> do I see python3 support?
[21:13] <tumbleweed> oh, just in the vlc bits
[21:13] <superfly> yeah
[21:14] <tumbleweed> come to think of it, those bits aren't acknowledged in debian/copyright either
[21:15] <superfly> oh... heh. that file was added later, after the initial package was made
[21:17] <tumbleweed> also, not new
[21:19] <tumbleweed> should I upload?
[21:20] <superfly> If you're happy with it, sure. Then I don't have to rush to make those fixes now (which my wife would appreciate ;-) )
[21:20] <tumbleweed> yeah, I'm happy
[21:20] <superfly> Cool, thanks.
[21:22] <tumbleweed> Thank you for your contribution to Debian :)
[21:22] <superfly> tumbleweed: Thank *you*!
[21:23] <superfly> tumbleweed: I've noted those issues you've mentioned, and I'll see about getting them fixed in the next few weeks
[21:23] <tumbleweed> heh, I'm just saying what dak will tell you in a couple of hours
[21:23] <superfly> tumbleweed: I know :-)
[21:24] <superfly> right, bed time for me. Good night all.
[21:24] <tumbleweed> superfly: if I remember, I'll sync to Ubuntu tomorrow
[21:24] <tumbleweed> if I don't, prod me
[21:24] <superfly> OK
[21:24] <superfly> Thanks
[21:24] <tumbleweed> np
[23:32] <zeref> whoah