[00:00] SourceSlayer, ls [00:00] SourceSlayer, nvm read that wrong [00:00] I mean a list of python directories. [00:00] ok [00:01] i'm not trying to be presumptuous in asking this because i'm sure it's hard, but are the new generation macbook multitouches going to be added to Ubuntu soon? that's the only reason that i don't use it exclusively [00:01] SourceSlayer, wanna print a script? cat it [00:02] SourceSlayer, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/120656/directory-listing-in-python [00:02] enigmuriatic: it's more about the kernel developers adding support for it - I don't know how quickly they work but some of them seem to buy new macbooks just to get them working. It's not instantaneous though [00:02] 13.04 works perfectly out of the box on my Macbook Air 2012 === linuxthefish` is now known as linuxthefish [00:03] surbs: What I'm looking for is the $PYTHONPATH variable which is supposed to show where the directories for python modules are. [00:03] I would like to manipulate that variable. [00:03] Anyone have a good ppa for java? [00:04] magn3ts, does it work with four-finger swipe etc.? [00:05] hello. i cant get upstart to load /etc/init/uwsgi.conf. help please. [00:06] Hello people! I recently installed Ubuntu 12.10 (first time Linux) through the windows installer on this laptop of mine. Bad thing is, Ubuntu is running much slower than native win7 64-bit, and I'm getting lots of app freezes and crashes. Any ideas on what I could do to boost performance/prevent crashes? Any noob mistakes I am likely to have done? === cater is now known as CaTeR [00:07] enigmuriatic: well, they're not mapped. You can map swipes to things if you want sure. [00:07] The unity multitouch handler is stupid though, I don't use it. [00:09] I'm setting up an zmanda server, I'm going to be moving the backups off to a USB drive for off site storage. Any recomendations for file systems that work between ubuntu, mac, & windows that can handle a 3TB drive? I've been using exfat for mac/windows, but not sure how well that will play with ubuntu. [00:10] magn3ts, does that mean you don't have mutlitouch? [00:11] Praxi: With ext3 you'd have to install ext3 support into windows. With ntfs you need to installntfs support into linux so choice is yours. Either way one of htem needs to be extended. [00:11] Hello === white_sororitas is now known as Lisandra_brave [00:12] Praxi: ubuntu will handle ntfs out of the box though I believe now. So I guess you would go with that. [00:12] thanks histo assumed as much. Have you ever played with exfat on linux? [00:12] How do I make a back up of my /home to another location. using cp without sudo skips files. Using with sudo changes permissions of some of the copied folders to root ( cannot open file). If I do chmod then All files will ahve permissions removed including some which should have it !! [00:12] Praxi: No [00:13] I see some ppa's for a fuse version of it, just fishing for thoughts on it [00:13] I have a weird problem.., I am running ubuntu 12.04 and I cannot login to ebay :O I've tried chrome,firefox and midori and its the same on all of them , could anyone help ? ive tried to lookup google but it seems to be only me having this problme [00:13] Vivekananda: What other location are you trying to copy to? [00:13] exfat works on latest windows & mac, so it seems the easiest to deal with [00:13] Praxi: What is exfat? [00:13] MS recognizing the need for an extended fat [00:13] cover big flash drives and the like [00:14] Vivekananda: rsync -av /home/Vivekanand /path/to/other/location [00:14] it is an external hard drive. What should I use so all files are copied with proper permissions [00:14] I have my files on ~/x/my_dir , but I want to directory as ~/my_dir how can I do it? [00:14] exfat = fat64 [00:14] histo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExFAT [00:14] Praxi: I wouldn't trust it for backups [00:14] histo: why would sudo cp -R /home /otherloction/ break or change permissions for folders ? [00:15] Z [00:15] Z [00:15] roger histo. do the ext3 work across ubuntu & mac? if I was forced to choose between 2, those would be my first choice [00:16] ahh nm that was an easy enough google hehe [00:17] what's that system called that gets called by dpkg-reconfigure that prompts you to replace or keep an existing changed configuration file? [00:17] I can't think of the actual binary [00:17] histo: I did the sudo cp and I understood tha with sudo nothing can go wrong now I see that the created copy says 1,018 items, totalling 420.7 MB(some contents unreadable) and the parent folder [00:17] 4,772 items, totalling 397.2 MB [00:18] I am thoroughly confused of what is happenning [00:20] histo: any clues ? [00:20] never mind, debconf [00:21] can someone help me every time i plug or unplug the charger from my dell insperon duo i get a kernel panic [00:21] itt does work if i close the cover first [00:21] or disable acpi === jfrmilner_ is now known as jfrmilner [00:23] Bray90820: you hvent fouind any bug reports on that issue? [00:23] people have reported the bug all over the place [00:23] Vivekananda: Becuaseit's copying the files as root and not their permissions [00:23] but no one has a fix === wedgwood is now known as wedgwood_away [00:23] Vivekananda: Why are you using sudo? [00:23] Hey guys, I'm having some problems with mountall in 12.10 with nfs mounts in /etc/fstab. I have _netdev as an option, but it still tries to mount it before the interfaces are up. Any suggestions? [00:24] sorry if i am asking to many times [00:24] Vivekananda: Are you copying to a fat drive? [00:24] i just really want this bug worked out [00:24] Bray90820: i imagine its a kernel bug. so normal people are not going to be having any fix. have you tested this in 13.04 yet? [00:24] Bray90820: I would check in other kernels try a newer one try an older one. Or even try the latest from kernel.org [00:24] histo: no it is an ext3 drive. I would like to know if there are files on the /home which require root permissions to open. If this is not the case then a simple cp source/ dest/ should work or a cut and paste [00:25] shouldnt it ? [00:25] !kernel | Bray90820 [00:25] Bray90820: The core of Ubuntu is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, and if you need to troubleshoot issues, you can try a !Mainline kernel instead, but if you insist, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile (see also !Stages) [00:25] Vivekananda: Yes [00:25] does copying the files as root change the permissions on the files too ?? [00:25] Vivekananda: backing up the .gvfs directory is going to have issues.. since its a special directory [00:26] Vivekananda: cp has options to keep the oroginal peremissions/ownership [00:26] there is a thread about the netbook on the ubuntu forums [00:26] Vivekananda: Is there a reason you want to use cp? [00:26] dr_willis: Yes it is giving me the errors but everyone I was trying to do a simple copy all and paste. I did not hope to spend 2 hours on this [00:26] Having troubles with getting ubuntu to update, using the latest version..anyone care to help =X [00:27] ubottu it seems to work in other ubuntu based distros such as JollyOS [00:27] Bray90820: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [00:27] Vivekananda: you dont try to backup .gvfs and use the proper options to cp or use rsync to backup - would be the normal way [00:27] Vivekananda: root takes ownership of the files when you cp the way you are doing it. [00:27] histo: no reason. I was just using the simplest command I know to cp and paste. Now I find that even if I do a sudo the source and dest have different no of files with different sizes and what not [00:27] ubottu [00:28] Vivekananda: why dont you simply chown and chmod after copying ? [00:28] Bray90820: ubottu is just a bot/scripted client [00:28] oh nevermind then [00:28] histo it seems to work in other ubuntu based distos such as Jolly OS [00:29] Bray90820: you mean JoliOS [00:29] ment0s: yes I can do that but that is not the problem . The first and foremost problem is that I believed that no matter the permissions and the problems with .gfvs folder the other folders will be copied to the destination and I should see the same size with same number of files with sudo [00:29] this is not happenning [00:29] yes [00:29] sorry for the spelling [00:29] Vivekananda: rsync -ax /home/vivek /other/location will copy the files you want and not try and copy .gvfs [00:29] Vivekananda: you can add --progress if you want in there also you can see it go along it's merry way [00:30] histo: I get your point. rsync is great. My question is why does sudo cp not give me two identical folders except for the .gvfs [00:30] Vivekananda: Are you taking into account that .gvfs isn't there? [00:30] Bray90820: that is an interesting fact.. since im not sure what kernel JoliOs is curently using.. i ddient even think it was still being developed [00:31] Vivekananda: identical as in same owner/permissions? or whats differnt? [00:33] dr_willis: Identical meaning same number of files and same size of parent and child folder ( excluding .gvfs of course) [00:33] dr_willis here is a bunch of into on the jolios kernel https://github.com/jolicloud/jolicloud-robby-kernel [00:33] dr_willis: If I use sudo and cp will that copy the hidden , .files also ? I hope it should [00:34] Vivekananda: diff /home/vivek /path/you/copied/to [00:34] see the difference [00:34] lol histo; destination says 400 mbs source is 3 gbs [00:34] lol [00:34] Vivekananda: cp needs an option to copy hidden files. [00:34] my head is spinning now [00:35] would there be any way to port the JolliOS kernel back to ubuntu [00:35] is there a way to turn off chat join/leave messages in IRC over Empathy [00:35] I need to put win7 back on my ubuntu machine. I was hoping for single boot but my DAW is sucking me back into dual boot [00:35] Vivekananda: mbs ? gbs ?? you mean mb and gb right [00:35] or set channels as persistent so I can minimize to tray [00:35] dr_willis: so you mean if I do sudo cp -R source/ dest/ it will still need arguments before copying everything ? [00:35] yes [00:35] ment0s: [00:35] just copy it with cp -rp again [00:35] yes [00:36] somehow my /home partition ended up as a logical partition and not a primary one. I notice no performance problem but I need to cut this partition in half to get win7 back [00:36] I am going to do it again [00:36] tried grsyn now [00:36] does it matter if my windows7 partition is logical? maybe this is a stupid question [00:36] if this doesnot work I will just take a disk partition image and store it [00:36] threex5: windows will not be happy on a logical [00:36] Vivekananda: I have joined in the middle of convo, could you quick exmplain what kind of files are you compying ? does have it anything to do with google drive? [00:37] threex5: You can double check in #windows also windows will blow out grub when it installs. [00:37] ment0s: He's trying to cp his home with sudo for some reason. [00:37] ment0s: I have /home as a separate partition and I have /media/A/ As my external ext3 partitioned hard drive [00:38] Vivekananda: Why are you using sudo? [00:39] I am trying to create a Complete copy of /home and later restore it and I tried cp then found that it leaves some files ( permission and hidden issues) so I figured I can deal with permisisons later but sudo cp -R should copy EVerything as sudo is the god command [00:39] thats a good question in first place [00:39] so if /home is separate partiton then use dd to file and then restore it with dd also [00:39] Vivekananda: Are there multiple users in /home ? [00:40] no it is a simple laptop one user , me only [00:40] people never seem to get sudo.. :-D [00:40] Vivekananda: you user should be able to copy his /home/username folder without issues what files did you find that it leaves? [00:40] histo, I can live with that as long as it gives me a similar boot loader [00:41] thanks for the advice about the logical partition. I'll make sure it's primary [00:41] dd if=/dev/(home partiton) of=/media/A/home.img [00:41] threex5: No you can't boot linux after windows blows out your boot loader. You'll have to reinstall grub. It's alwasy best to install windows first due to this issue with their installer [00:41] histo I will have to run that again to find out . I simply wanted to cut /home and paste it on /media/A/ ie either mv or copy [00:41] rsync would be a beter way i belive [00:41] it is good that I did not mv or would have been a total mess now [00:41] histo, does the ubuntu live disk give you the option to recreate grub? [00:42] Vivekananda: Don't copy /home copy /home/username [00:42] Vivekananda: Use dd, it will copy permissions and every hidden file [00:42] I saw a few of the mark shuttleworth's recent videos and a few times how you can transparently use windows apps (like a thin client) on the desktop. daes anyone know how? [00:42] ment0s: I heard that dd was a scary command and not to be used unless required necessarily [00:42] no ? [00:43] whats sudo? [00:43] Vivekananda: It would allow you to backup the entire partition that /home is on. [00:43] I dont want to store the alignment and all just the files for back up [00:43] yes or bo would this flag disable acpi [00:43] !sudo | Lynxx [00:43] Lynxx: sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo [00:43] http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=SmuqUmET [00:43] Lynxx: ? check the man page or google [00:43] histo: yes i know but I was content with just folder backup without going for the overkill. [00:43] hello, playing with orca... how can I perform key combination kp_Add [00:43] Vivekananda: I still want to know what files where left? [00:43] how come windows update doesnt work on ubuntu [00:44] ... [00:44] Lynxx: good question [00:44] histo: yes I will be glad to tell you but right now I ran sudo rsync :( I am waiting for it to finish and then try the regular copy and then tell you what is missing :( [00:44] yes because im trying to update and it doesnt let me [00:44] Vivekananda: STOP USING SUDO you don't need it [00:44] jejsus [00:45] histo: :) sure , right after I see this one through. Btw does the /home folder contain files normally, that require root permissions to open? [00:45] lol, he's scared of dd and not of sudo [00:46] lol [00:46] hello, playing with orca... how can I perform key combination KP_Add [00:46] Vivekananda: no [00:47] g16: :) Yes I know . But I did not want to use it . I however know only two ways of copying over files that say ( copy permission denied) either chmod / chown it to myself or become root so everything can be copied ? do you find this completely illogical ? [00:47] aaaah KP must be keypad so keypad plus [00:47] Vivekananda: Although yours probably does with your missuse of sudo i'm sure root owns several files in /home for some odd reason. [00:47] unfortunately this is a laptop... :( [00:48] histo: no harm done . I will just delete the child and copy over again with the ways you suggested. I am just testing my understanding of sudo in a harmless manner is all [00:48] histo: in the event that some files do have root permissions and I want to create a full back up of the /home. how do I copy those files over ?? [00:49] chown and chmod everything inside /home/yourusername with your permissions from root [00:49] and without sudo as you mentioned above what else do I do to copy ?? will dd do it ? [00:49] I have new problem, where I can no longer access new localhost sites (apache) I try to access http://mysite and am redirected to http://www.mysite.com This is only true for the most recent site I've added. Previous sites still load the correct local site. [00:50] ment0s_: but histo mentioned that some folder are by default under sudo in the /home too. In that case if I do what you say then it will ruin those folders wont it ? [00:50] I've tried completely renaming the site and flushing local dns. [00:51] The same thing happens on chrome and firefox [00:52] what CLI command do i use to remove a program and all it's dependencies? [00:53] SixtyFold: apt-get remove [00:53] hrmm [00:53] i did that [00:53] ment0s_: Also which lightweight ubuntu should I download to install on the computer for 12.04 and also to create a live usb drive for it first ? [00:53] it doesnt seem to remove as much as it installed [00:54] SixtyFold: elaborate? what did you expect? [00:54] try apt-get autoremove to remove unneeded dependencies [00:54] okay [00:54] are there any ways yet to get windows to read/write to ext4? [00:55] * awolfey1 facepalm [00:56] awolfey1 was that directed at me? [00:56] threex5: no, at me [00:56] heh ok [00:58] histo: executing the simple cp -R command now for home to external media [00:58] without the sudo [00:59] hmm -R does get hidden files? I dont recall [01:00] dr_willis: -R is only recursive [01:00] should I try with hidden files ? [01:01] you do want your settings? [01:02] I just installed Ubuntu 12.04.2 and I want to know how to change it to Gnome 2, I installed Gnome-session-fallback but it installed Gnome3 [01:02] newubuntu12: fallback is a feature of gnome3 [01:02] is there a way to install Gnome 2 instead of 3 to get the old desktop manager? [01:02] its a gnome2 look alike [01:03] well I have a top panel, can I remove the sidebar? [01:03] it still looks like unity [01:03] ok, let me rephrase that then. If you have dual boot, with a linux OS, a windows OS and a data partition, what filesystem should i use? I want the data partition to mount as /home when on linus [01:04] linux [01:04] sounds like you dident select the right sessii [01:04] sessiin at the login screen [01:04] newubuntu12: you should install gnome shell and then choose session to failback [01:04] dr_willis: I to get back this home directory as it is now everything intact after I repartition [01:05] threex5: use ext2/3/4 for linux home mormallt [01:05] normally [01:05] mostly 4 [01:05] cuz 4. [01:05] threex: I'd rather have Linx own the /home and have a separate data partition mounted under that [01:05] thanks, dr_willis. I don't know of any tools that allow you to write to ext4 from windows, though [01:05] Vivekananda: so yiu need the .* files [01:05] As for the fs, you can choose FAT if you do not need symlinks, ACLs, and such. [01:05] ment0s_: dr_willis : which version ofubuntu should I download for lightweight but can do everything for 12.04 ? L ubuntu or x ubuntu or ?? [01:06] NTFS is an alternative. [01:06] dr_willis: yep I do [01:06] EXT2 IFS supposedly writes to ext3 but it doesn't say on their website that it does [01:06] threex5: I wouldn't trust any of those tools [01:06] Vivekananda: crunchbang :D [01:06] and all other files too . ( If I can get all files ie ) [01:06] I'm trying to see what file is being denied access to. I no var/log/messages, and security in Ubuntu, I Don 'the see anything in syslog where do I find this in Ubuntu? [01:06] Vivekananda, Lubuntu [01:06] :) [01:07] ! lubuntu [01:07] Lightweight... simple... and much faster than any *ubuntu [01:07] lubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support. [01:07] dem0n: ok I am downloading it now [01:07] threex5ntfs is best for windows and linux can read ntfs [01:07] Vivekananda: xubuntu kubuntu bubuntu or whatever *buntu is still the same ubuntu just with different desktop enviroment. [01:07] dr_willis, then what do people do when they want to share their data across OSes? [01:08] threex5: linux can read/write ntfs [01:08] true... there is crunchbag, dirtbag and a thousand distros... but... ubuntu sure is the most reliable... and sensible distro :) [01:08] so If you have ubuntu right now, then install lxde and you have lubuntu or whatever its called and its the same lightweith as the other one [01:08] right but my /home partition shouldn't be ntfs [01:08] yu DONT use ntfs for home [01:08] ment0s_: yep I got that but I am not very familiar will all these and have used gnome mostly. I am not sure how different the usage for these would be as compared to gnome eg do I get multiple desktops or could I get compiz or similar effects if I wanted to ? [01:08] it wont work [01:08] no offense to other linux distros... but it's a fact. [01:08] ok but home is where I keep my files [01:09] you can keep the files on a mtfs if you wanted [01:09] but not all of /home [01:09] mtfs : mother of tyranny file system :) [01:09] Vivekananda: damm simple :) its just gui. and this is power of linux. if you dont like file manager which is included to xubuntu then you have ability to install standard one etc. I currently upgrading to 13.04 but running openbox and its damm lightweith [01:11] Vivekananda: so in my opinion just stay with ubuntu and possibly install lxde and you are sorted. [01:11] ment0s_: yep so I am going to download lubuntu 12.04 as .iso and create a bootable usb with it . Then will use it to install ubuntu later on the system If I choose to format. [01:12] could some one help me installing drivers for a usb ethernet adapter? [01:12] I am on lucid now and it is dying that is why I had to move on. Also I have a pretty oldie laptop. Not even sure if the newer systems would work on it esp graphics and all. If it does not then I will have nothing left:( [01:12] dr_willis, dude you're the same dr_willis from few years back right? are you employed by canonical for IRC support . :) [01:13] can't recall a single time I've been here and not seen you... [01:13] ok i think I know what i'll do. I'll get rid of the /home partition and just have home on the root. dr_willis, can I just remove the line in fstab that mounts /home in a different directory and just make sure my home folder is in the root directory? [01:13] or is it more complicated to remove home [01:13] Vivekananda: linux is running on raspberry pi very smoothly .. dont worry about your old laptop. Linux will possibly run on pretty much everyting what have CPU and RAM [01:14] *smoothly ( with proper setup) [01:14] yes that I know kind of and like too . The only problem has been graphics card drivers compatibility [01:14] threex5, you could mount home... and your ntfs... then... move the folders in home... to your ntfs.... and create symbolic links on your home folder... [01:14] Vivekananda: what laptop is this [01:15] ??? [01:15] dem0nk, that's what i plan to do [01:15] but for now, I need to move the files that are in /home [01:15] oh, my idea is a little different than yours [01:15] three18ti, moving the home totally is not a good idea... as you can see.. there are lots of program files on it... hidden files... starting with dots... [01:16] it's basically the same, but there's no /home partition [01:16] just root or / [01:16] ment0s_: One thing, suppose I have lubuntu or Xubuntu, can I install libre office on it ? It has a different word processor by default but I want something a little better like libre office for my college /work [01:16] threex5, you will loose file permissions [01:16] but the home folder in the root partition has symbolic links [01:16] if you use ntfs === grep is now known as Guest10766 [01:16] Vivekananda: yes. you can install anything you want. [01:16] the laptop is inspiron 600m a centrino dual core [01:16] just mount the ntfs to be like /home/yourusername/SharedDisk [01:16] Vivekananda: you can use KDE programs in gnome and vice versa etc. [01:17] 1.6 ghz max [01:17] ok got it [01:18] dr_willis: did you tell me what to use for copying the hidden files. histo asked me to tell him what a normal cp leaves behind and I would like to try it [01:18] Vivekananda: cp has some extra options you need [01:18] Vivekananda: this is great laptop for linux, most of network technicians using it. dont think there should be big problem with your graphics [01:18] alright i'll give it a shot. thanks for the help. [01:19] Vivekananda: ianything thats hidden .* would not get copied without the extra options [01:19] ment0s_: is it. nice to know . It lags sometimes though I dont know why although I once cleaned it up by opening it and removed the heatsync [01:20] but did not put the gel before resealing and that might be the isssue but it does not get very hot or loud. my hard drive and ram are also failing slowly [01:20] dr_willis: if he is copying /home/user/ then it should copy hidden files :| ? [01:20] Okay, so /boot just got filled up again and made another kernel update fail. This is obviously a bug, it should not be keeping so many old kernels. Where should I report this bug to? [01:21] dr_willis: I looked at the cp --help and it does not give me anything specific for "hidden files" [01:21] hidden files looks like this .file .folder [01:21] if you will copy parent folder then it will copy everyting including hidden files [01:22] http://superuser.com/questions/26586/copy-directory-contents-using-cp-command [01:22] if you want to copy only hidden files then you run cp /folder/.* [01:23] I want to copy all to all then repartition and get back my home as it was [01:23] this is my intention :) === IcarianHeights is now known as CarbonChauvinist [01:23] What package should I report this /boot bug under? dpkg, apt-get, linux? [01:24] so so [01:24] [B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~ [01:24] [B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[Bss [01:24] ment0s_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [01:24] Vivekananda: check that url - Ibelive (i just skimmed it) it suggestgs using cp -a .* /path/of/backup to cp the hidden dirs.. then a cp * to get the normal files [01:25] and the -a option aparently is for archive/keep all permissions/ownership [01:25] Id just cheat and use 'mc' to do the copy.. but im lazy [01:25] if i was smarter id learn to use rsync ;) [01:26] dr_willis: I can use grsync/rsync but I want to know that if I use is will the hiddens get copied ? [01:26] if they would then I am by all means going to use it [01:26] if you tell it to it should. [01:27] cp caan copy the hidden files IF YOU TELL IT TO [01:27] cp .* foo i belive.. [01:27] ok let me try twice cp way first [01:27] if you were using rsync it would scan and only copy the changed files. :0 [01:27] thats like the powar of rsync === linuxthefish is now known as linuxthefish` === Saw5Gone is now known as VictorRedtail|Sa [01:30] dr_willis: so cp in two steps would copy all normal ( files owned by me ) and all hiddens ones But I still have to copy the ones that are under root permissions [01:30] what do I do then ? [01:30] Hello, is anyone in here experienced with workstations that have a SAS controller such as a Dell Precision 690? [01:31] Vivekananda: what files in your users home are owned by root? i cant think of any that would normally exist === XenGi is now known as XenGi_ [01:31] I have a sas controller, but no in a dell [01:31] not [01:32] dr_willis: I dont know but vaguely recall something cannot be copied kind of thing happening. I will tell you if it happens again. [01:32] someone said a little above that tere CAn be some files like that for the home folder too! [01:32] Well, my problem is is that I am trying to Install Ubuntu 12.10 onto my Dell Precision 690. [01:32] I have had issues with the SAS controller before. [01:32] Basically, the Drive Shows up in /dev/sda [01:32] but not in the installer itself [01:32] !manual | Vivekananda This may be of help when you have some time. [01:32] Vivekananda This may be of help when you have some time.: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/ [01:33] Vivekananda: ignore any errors for .gvfs its special [01:38] hmm my adeskbar stops working properly after upgrade to 13.04, when I trying go to setting it does noting ... [01:39] run it from terminal - look for error messages.. trouble shooting basics ;) [01:39] and #ubuntu+1 for 13.04 [01:42] dr_willis: troubleshoot basis :) good one. https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5010111 I cannot troublehsoot python lol [01:42] dr_willis: histo this is one in a series of errors I am getting using simple cp -- cannot open `/home/varun/.juniper_networks/network_connect/ncsvc' for reading: Permission denied [01:43] no idea what varun is. [01:44] or what .juniper is either. [01:44] dr_willis: varun must be his home folder isnt it ? :) [01:44] varun is just the my name [01:45] .juniper was I guess something to do with oracle I installed its ide a whillllee back [01:45] dr_willis: troubleshooting basis :) [01:45] juniper networks = cisco stuff ? === ulkesh is now known as ulkesh_away [01:46] histo: was interested to know this so here I am . Now I guess should try rsync and see what happens [01:47] if you dont need the. juniper stuff clean it out. ;-) === XenGi_ is now known as XenGi [02:06] dr_willis: the two cps gimme 3 gbs in both source and dest [02:06] Hi there. Is there any way to group volumes on the left panel in Thunar? I have 4 OS's installed and i have a load like (500mb vol, 20G vol etc etc 20 of the to be exact) Just wonderin nothin serious. [02:06] I am using another folder to use grsync and then compare the two child folder [02:06] using diff === IboS_ is now known as IboS [02:08] ianharper: if you give the filesystems a label it may use that name instead of 300gb volume [02:09] I'll try it there ty Dr. [02:10] a lable change may not get noticed untill you reboot [02:12] Nah still lists them all if ya know what i mean, hummm maybe if it could just show the Extended partitions as a whole? === |_ocke2 is now known as |_ocke === me is now known as Guest79138 [02:25] i have a situation where my mic stops working untell i open the pulse audio mixer and toggle between the two mic's in the dropdown and then it starts working [02:25] so i switch it from mic to internal then back to mic and it works [02:26] i have to do this after waking the laptop every time [02:26] yo [02:27] grendal-prime: sounds like you should file a bug report on launchpad [02:29] hola [02:32] Is this a good start to writing ipv4/ipv6 iptables rules? http://pastebin.com/nTdEL9Zt [02:32] i've problem with python-kivy [02:32] Perhaps JAVA_HOME does not point to the JDK. [02:32] It is currently set to "/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-i386/jre" [02:33] i will programm.py ---> to ---> programme.apk [02:33] i read this url : http://kivy.org/docs/guide/packaging-android.html [02:34] ./build.py and i have this error http://kivy.org/docs/guide/packaging-android.html [02:34] It is currently set to "/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-i386/jre" [02:35] how can I see which groups there are? [02:35] user groups [02:35] all of them [02:35] as in, possible groups [02:36] raj: cat /etc/group ? [02:36] greetings - i'm looking for some troubleshooting help - just installed liveCD 12.04 and it is not connecting to my wifi. where's a place i can troubleshoot this? thanks!! [02:36] oh wow [02:36] that's a lot [02:37] can I make it alphabetical by any chance datruth ? [02:37] !wireless) [02:37] !wireless [02:37] Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [02:37] bud, this is a broadcom wifi card?? [02:37] raj: command | sort === hp is now known as Guest22718 [02:38] holy crap [02:38] nice [02:38] can I see what users are in a group [02:38] ? [02:38] buffalo airstation wl13-cb-g54l [02:38] and what is the meaning of fuse:x:104: ? [02:39] pcmcia card in toshiba lappie === g_byers is now known as gbyers[Away] [02:39] je vais prendre un traducteur car je suis vraiment nul en anglais. [02:39] J'essaie de transformer un script python en application apk pour la mettre sur mon téléphone android. je suis ce tutoriel http://kivy.org/docs/guide/packaging-android.html . Je bloque au niveau de build.py car j'ai cette erreur: [02:39] com.sun.tools.javac.Main is not on the classpath. [02:39] Perhaps JAVA_HOME does not point to the JDK. [02:39] It is currently set to "/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-i386/jre" [02:39] jonathan_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [02:39] merci d'avance [02:39] !permissions [02:39] An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions [02:39] i rarely mess with groups [02:41] cfhowlett - from what i can google, it may be a Broadcom BCM4318 [02:42] bud, then you're likely in luck. Broadcom came be quickly and easily fired up with a current ubuntu ISO [02:42] !bcm [02:42] Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx [02:43] bud, fwiw: Dell 1545, no hard wire so couldn't use the "additional drivers" method. Used the STA No Internet. 3 commands at terminal, 3 minutes and wifi was enabled. no reboot required. === misterswag_ is now known as af9210 [02:44] bud, if you go this way, note: step 2 of this method is not required ... === af9210 is now known as misterswag_ [02:44] should have mentioned i'm total ubuntu newbie. running liveCD 1st time. so do i need to install drivers for this and how? === misterswag_ is now known as af9210 [02:45] bud, well i see you have internet access at present so ... no? [02:45] nope, on (2nd) win machine [02:45] i got a cheap wifi dongle that works out of the box. so i can plug it into problem laptops and use the additional drivers tool [02:45] bud, OK, well. see that tutorial in the link ubottu sent. You can set it up when you're ready [02:46] to use sshfs, do I have to add the user to the 'fuse' group? [02:46] ok, thx guys!! [02:46] raj: i dident need to [02:46] dr_willis, thanks. make/model of your dongle? (Gee, THAT didn't sound porno now did it?) [02:46] this was saying to do that http://embraceubuntu.com/2005/10/28/how-to-mount-a-remote-ssh-filesystem-using-sshfs/ [02:46] they are allready in it i think [02:46] where can I find the list of the dev team for the phablet project? [02:46] do you have something good I can follow dr_willis [02:46] !table|LarrySteeze, probably here somewhere [02:46] !tablet [02:46] The Ubuntu tablet can be discussed in #ubuntu-tablet or #ubuntu-discuss, please remember that #ubuntu is for support only. [02:47] my bad. Thank you cfhowlett [02:47] LarrySteeze, no problem [02:47] cfhowlett: i got 4 different ones from amazon. from $5 to $20 i checked the reviews to be sure they worked out of the box. [02:47] have I missed an influx of people coming with questions about it? :D [02:48] one even worked on my media player box. automatically. [02:48] LarrySteeze, well, enough to make an official channel to be sure. enjoy [02:48] I see that, heh. [02:48] dr_willis, good deal. [02:48] I just wanted to see if one of my canonical friends had anything to do with it :P [02:49] got a micro usb dongle for $5 no idea what brand [02:50] Hello every one, do you help me with my dual monitors problem on ubuntu 12.04LTS, i setup dual monitors but after some minutes ubuntu auto change my settings to mirror display, or clone, or difference resolutions [02:51] what chipset rambulun ? [02:52] AMD [02:52] xrandr [02:52] that narrows it down to like 200 different cards ;) [02:52] Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 2646 x 1024, maximum 8192 x 8192 [02:52] LVDS1 connected 1366x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 344mm x 194mm [02:52] 1366x768 60.0*+ 40.1 [02:52] 1360x768 59.8 60.0 [02:52] rambulun: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [02:52] 1024x768 60.0 [02:53] anyone else having issues with yahoo.com's homepage? [02:53] !help [02:53] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [02:53] oops threw google chrome? [02:53] !ask [02:53] @dr_willis sorry, i dont understand [02:54] What version of kvm does 12.04 LTS has? [02:54] rambulun: we need a more specicif chipset then AMD.. [02:54] rambulun: and the @person notation is for twitter.. not irc. ;) [02:54] !tab [02:54] You can use your key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line. [02:55] @name on irc normally is when a personis a cchannel Op [02:55] dr_willis: ok, it is Radeon HD 5400M === grep is now known as Guest53541 [02:55] 6400M [02:56] i dont really use ati.. are you using the FGLRX drivers or the Open Sourced ones? [02:58] dr_willis: i use amd catalys driver setup in there https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#Installing_via_the_command_line [02:58] if its changveing stuff on the fly without your input.. it could be a loose cable its seeing the monitor connect/disconnect.. is about all i can think of. [02:59] unless you can be more specific about when its doing the changeing [02:59] assuming there is a pattern to when its doing it [02:59] dr_willis: how do I use diff to compare two folders? [02:59] dr_willis: I dont think that, when i use arch linux or window, it ok, but when i setup ubuntu i meet this problem [02:59] Vivekananda: i thougth diff compared 2 files.. [03:00] Where can I find the tweaks made to KVM that makes it not a good tool to virtualized GUI based hosts? === Karbowiak is now known as zz_Karbowiak [03:01] unstableme.blogspot.com/2008/03/compare-two-directories-using-diff-bash.html?m=1 First google hit on it Vivekananda [03:02] is there a way to capture audio output from alsa (no pulseaudio is installed)? preferably with avconv. [03:02] eg, something like: avconv -f alsa -i hw:0,0 file.wav [03:02] but that example does not work for me. [03:03] dr_willis: i want to setup LVDS1 1366x768 left-of VGA1 1280x1024, when change it on display setting it ok, but after some minutes it auto change with random setting ( mirror display, clone or something eslse) === Boohbah is now known as Guest86617 [03:04] dr_willis: yep sorry [03:04] rambulun: for ati cards with the fglrx drivers i would think you would use that amdccle control panel tool. not the display settings tool === Partyschaum^away is now known as Partyschaum [03:07] hello everyone i am trying to setup a mail server on my machine but i cant log into squirlmail...i fallowed all the guides..can someone please point me in the right diriection? [03:08] is ment0s_ here ? [03:08] dr_willis : the cp done twice and the grsync without sudo produce different results [03:08] has anyone had good luck installing shoutcast to the menu of Rythmbox i tried using this link http://code.google.com/p/rhythmbox-shoutcast/wiki/HOWTO_Install and no go i am using ubuntu 12.04 [03:12] how can I automatically sshfs when I start ubuntu? [03:12] raj: start as in boot up.. or as in when the user logs in.. [03:14] dr_willis, when user logs in [03:15] but I have autologin [03:15] raj: tjeres a .config/autorun directory you can put scripts in that get ran when they login.. may be called autostart [03:15] awesome ! [03:15] thanks! [03:15] dr_willis, what's your opinion on gedit3? [03:16] should I upgrade? [03:16] from 2 [03:16] never used gedit3. i rarely use gedit [03:16] i tend to sue vim or geany [03:16] oh ok [03:16] geany is cool [03:17] i prefer emacs more [03:17] greetings again - can I check the md5 of a file with livecd and no internet connection? (e.g., is md5 checker built in?) and how do i run it for a file in my 'downloads' folder? thanks! [03:17] md5sum path/to//file [03:18] you still need the actual sum from the download site to check against [03:18] or to at leasst look at. to compare. ;) [03:18] !hashes | bud [03:18] bud: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes for the md5sums of all downloadable Ubuntu releases [03:18] i have the sum, thanks! [03:18] !md5 [03:19] To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows [03:20] anyone here use nvidia mosaic with GTX cards? === FreakingTea is now known as egalitrarianusa [03:23] I have gnu screen open via ssh [03:23] can I view any files via gedit on my local machine? [03:23] Hello, I need some support with my new ubuntu installation on an Asus A54H - The FN keys refuse to work despite Ubuntu obviously recognizing them (it comes up with a circle with a cross through it when I try to use the FN keys to adjust brightness and contrast) [03:24] local machine? you just run gedit locally.... [03:24] Is there any way to force all of ubuntu to display in black and white? I have a disability that makes it difficult to see to many contrasting colors. [03:24] but how can I open the file on the remote machine === egalitrarianusa is now known as FreakingTea [03:25] raj: mount the remote with sshfs [03:25] i'm looking at the file using screen [03:25] I did [03:25] but it makes me use my local username [03:25] I want to actually login using the remote user's username [03:25] so I can edit his files [03:25] ssjfs can use other usernames [03:25] for example, I can't edit files within ~/.irssi [03:25] There's a new set of Ubuntu updates for 12.04. A couple of them are kernel packages. Synaptic says that, linux-generic-pae will be updated from 3.2.0.38.60 to 3.2.0.38.61, in short from xxx60 to xxx61. On the other hand, both from Synaptic and dpkg, what I have currently installed seems to be xxx48 (that's to say 3.2.0.38.48) not xxx60. Is there a contradiction, something unexpected? Is it a sign of an issue or is it fine at all? [03:26] check the sshfs docs for the options [03:26] so do I just need my local username to match up with the remote machine's username? [03:26] lubuntu does not have any torrent sites to download too!! Is this a regular ubuntu distribution ? [03:26] and they would be though of as the same user? === ThatOneGuy is now known as Guest85815 [03:27] So nobody can help, then? [03:27] hello everyone, is there a separate chat for ubuntu server? [03:28] yes there is, thanks for your help [03:29] :D [03:29] I like rice. === solid is now known as Guest55173 [03:30] Rezzafez: I am not sure I can be of much help but can try. Did you try to find out how the keybindings work in ubuntu for your model and try to reset them or something ? [03:30] Vivekananda: I don't know how to do that at all unfortunately [03:31] any thoughts dr_willis? [03:31] http://linux.die.net/man/1/sshfs read it.. sshfs user@host [03:31] Rezzafez: what is your model of the the computer and what ubuntu version ? [03:31] Vivekananda: my laptop is an Asus A54H and I'm using Ubuntu 12.10 [03:31] login on as the other user === LarrySteeze is now known as LarrySteeze|Away [03:33] ok got it . Let me see if I can find something for you [03:33] wow.. tons of advanced sshfs info at http://www.howtoforge.com/mounting-remote-directories-with-sshfs-on-debian-squeeze === arthur is now known as Guest79244 [03:36] my FF 19 on 12.10 is force closing more than Windows [03:36] any suggestions [03:36] Rezzafez: Does this help ?? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=916122 [03:36] I'm thinking of just removing the config [03:36] read through it [03:36] checking! [03:36] thanks [03:37] np:) [03:37] yigal: trying a clean setup would be a good test [03:37] dr_willis: ya, I can't stand this [03:37] you know, what's interesting is the FN keys worked fine on version 10 [03:37] dr_willis: I already removed all cached history [03:37] but now they don't [03:38] I don't get this with Ubuntu, how can they "lose" such support? [03:38] yigal: try a new profile perhaps. or with no extensions [03:38] dr_willis: good idea [03:38] i'm still a bit stuck on getting wifi working on liveCD with my buffalo card. anyone availble for some newbie handholding? thanks! [03:39] dr_willis: only extension is vimperator [03:39] I've already tried the "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi_osi=Linux"" angle [03:39] Rezzafez: kernel changes [03:39] didn't work no matter what I tried [03:39] dr_willis: I'm going to move .mozilla out of the way [03:39] hmmm [03:39] That is why I dislike upgrading. I go from lts to lts coz that is unavoidable [03:40] I always clean install [03:40] takes less time [03:40] dr_willis: should I download lubuntu ? it is not an lts and I did not want to upgrade to it [03:40] dr_willis: If you can suggest a way that I can get my old settings + programs back then I would do the same :) [03:41] I think yiu are worrying too much about lts [03:41] and you can just install the lubuntu-desktop package [03:41] ! clone [03:41] To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » (this may cause problems with multiarch before 12.10) - See also !automate [03:41] ough stupid ff is already running a defunct process, pkill -9 firefox what a bummer [03:41] dr_willis: not worrying. On the contrary I do that to avoid worry for 3 yrs , now 5 yrs [03:42] in 5 years I will have a pent 9000 superbox with esp .... [03:42] dr_willis: will this work if I do the upgrade fro lucid gnome to lubuntu 12.04 [03:42] ? [03:42] and who knows what else... [03:43] i'm still a bit stuck on getting wifi working on liveCD 12.04lts with my buffalo card. anyone availble for some newbie handholding? thanks! [03:43] ! lucid [03:43] Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) was the twelfth release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1004 - Supported until April 2013 (Desktop), April 2015 (Server) [03:43] I rarelt [03:43] rarely do release upgrades... so no idea [03:43] dr_willis: I have this comp for 6 yrs now. Dont plan to buy a newone unless money I have :( :) === XenGi is now known as XenGi_ [03:45] dr_willis: ok, mv ~/.mozilla{,.bak} && apt-get purge firefox && apt-get install --install-suggests firefox [03:45] dr_willis: the instructions above are to replicate packages for reinstall but I will be upgrading.!! Will that work in that case ? [03:45] dr_willis: we will see if this does some good [03:45] Vivekananda: Alright I'll try this one thing but I doubt it will work... I think I'm doomed but thanks anyway for the help, man [03:46] NP [03:48] Vivekananda: that's the spirit, why upgrade the hardware if the computer does what you need [03:48] Vivekananda: and hopefully, what you want it to [03:48] yigal: I dont want to even now but it is troubling me now [03:49] eg suddenly pdftk stopped working ( dependencies not present) [03:49] it saves a list of installed packages to a file.. then rereads the list Vivekananda so yes [03:49] Vivekananda: pdftk was the primary reason for me to revert back to Ubuntu from Arch [03:49] you reinstall the clean os.. then use the list. === grep is now known as Guest71631 [03:49] Hi. [03:49] then had to install sml module in emacs and that too is not working ( dependencies not satisfied) [03:49] Is this the place to come for help? [03:50] veoozo: what type of help, sir? [03:50] also support for lucid is gone so I figured I might jump onto the next lts for the next 5 yrs :) [03:50] veoozo: we try :) if its ubuntu support [03:50] i rarely worry about LTS or not.. [03:50] actually i dont worry about LTS at all.. ;P [03:50] but im a home user. ;) [03:51] dr_willis: I wanted to worry even less than you !! :) . I wanted to install once in a lifetime and then just click for updates and keep using the system unless I buy a brand new laptop and then get a brand new OS :) [03:51] Well, I have installed Ubuntu (and Mint) on my Lenovo Ideapad Yoga 13. I cannot get the wifi to work! No matter what I do, it won't work. There is a thread going about this, but nobody's posted in 4 hours. Woukld you like a link? [03:51] when using dd from an internal drive to an external drive does the external drive need to be mounted? [03:51] veoozo: sure [03:51] Vivekananda: then you start having to get used to using old versions of apps... [03:51] Okay, hold on. [03:52] shade34321: no [03:52] shade34321: well wait [03:52] shade34321: what are you doing with dd? [03:52] dr_willis: I am fine with using oldies for now. Hell pdftk was working fine until it suddenly collapsed god knows why [03:52] yigal: so if /dev/sda is the drive I want to copy and I'm copying it to the external /dev/sdi, dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdi [03:53] and sdi is not mounted but is listed in fdisk [03:53] but I will try lubuntu once now [03:53] shade34321: imageing to a DEVICE- you dont mount.. Imageing to a FILEit has to be on a mounted Filesystem of course [03:53] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1911972 That's the link to the thread. [03:53] dr_willis: so what I did is correct then [03:53] should it take 3 hrs+ to copy over a 75GB hard drive? [03:53] if you want to clone sda to sdb you DONTmount sdb.. In fact you should use a live cd. and not have sda mounted either [03:54] shade34321: depends on how the drives are connected [03:54] shade34321: you DIDuse a bs=4M option to dd? [03:54] dr_willis: it's a production system we're cloning and we can't take it down:/ [03:54] dr_willis: internal is SAS 15K if I remember correctly and external is mounted via USB 2.0 [03:54] shade34321: theres NOguarentees that clone will be correct [03:54] Hello? [03:54] veoozo: Jello? [03:54] cloneing a IN use filesystem - is not a good idea [03:54] shade34321: you may want to remount the disk to be copied as read only, if possible [03:55] For he's a jolly good fello? [03:55] Anybody wlling to help? [03:55] at least not via DD [03:55] dr_willis: I know but this is what I was told to do by my boss, so I do as he says but I've been waiting on it to finish to go home and now i'm just getting annoyed [03:55] ok, so I'm in xubuntu and accidently clicked on the calender thingee in the top menu bar, and now have a calendar that won't go away [03:55] !patience | veoozo [03:55] veoozo: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/ [03:55] Whtever. [03:55] shade34321: theres better ways to backup an IN use filesystem [03:55] personally I'm to scared to try this on a production server [03:55] veoozo: did you ask a support question? [03:56] dr_willis: well I have to have the disk be bootable so we can put it on another system [03:56] personally I would of used clonezilla but I can't take it down to use it [03:56] dr_willis, he did, he's just being impatient [03:56] shade34321: it should be bootable.. but the users data files.. are not guarrentied to be correct.. [03:56] shade34321: if someone deleted files in mid -dd... well.. who knows what they will be like on the final image [03:56] dr_willis: not copying those, /home /storage and /scratch are all not be copied over [03:57] so it's just system files in /dev/sda which shouldn't be touched during the entire process [03:57] shade34321: there are ways to remount / read only for a short time to make the DD [03:57] dr_willis: How's that? [03:57] mount -o remount [03:57] but if its taking 4+hrs to image.... Id suggest getting some USB3 drives. [03:57] that won't cause any problems with log files? [03:58] dr_willis: no USB 3 ports on it because the drive is USB 3:/ [03:58] lol [03:58] *no USB 3 ports on the server [03:58] Hi all What audio program do you all use to listen to SHOUTCAST music streams I am using 12.04 Lts [03:58] You can get pcie Usb3 cards for like $20 if it has a pcie slot [03:58] dr_willis: they are being used with fiber connections to external raids [03:59] dr_willis: the other option was take another hard drive and put it in but I couldn't find out if the server had hot swappable drives or not so rather than risking it going down in a ball of flames I went the external route [04:00] Hey i have a win 8 comp and i also want ubuntu [04:00] Well slowly getting my laptop back in working order....now all I'm getting is the libdrm-nouveau2 stuff but still not found a way to fix it -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1703872/ [04:00] How can i acomplish this? [04:01] fiber connections to raids.. and you are backing up the system over usb2 ? does that seem... weird to anyone else? [04:02] dr_willis: it's not for a backup...need to make a clone to put it on another system, the other system was an experimental cluster but now it's needs to be used and nobody here was aroudn when either was put together [04:02] i backed up a 3TB usb2 to another usb2 the other day... took.. err.. days [04:02] thanks dr_willis! [04:02] dr_willis: but I understand what you're saying, they're should be a better way [04:02] shade34321: clonezilla would let you clone pc1 to pc2 over the network.. [04:02] dear god, a 3TB backup? not sure I love my data THAT much [04:03] dr_willis: that was my original plan but I can't take down the first server [04:03] BHXSpecter: its the wifes movies and so forth :) so she has like 3 copies.. one for each media player in the house. [04:03] dr_willis: the queue on the cluster are days long [04:03] shade34321: clonezilla dosent need to take it down.. [04:03] as far as i know [04:03] Hey i have a win 8 comp and i also want ubuntu [04:03] How can i acomplish this? [04:03] dr_willis: how so? The only way I know how to use it is via live CD [04:04] I thought there was a clonezilla service.. but i could be wrong [04:04] dr_willis: I'm not aware of any but I'll look it up. [04:04] yeah a mad wife isn't something I like to deal with so I'd back up 3 TB too at that rate :) [04:04] i tend to just backup data.. not the whole OS [04:05] can some one help me with this? [04:06] dr_willis: apparently you can set up a clonezilla server to back up over the network...guess we could of gone that route if there was an extra comptuer laying around [04:06] shade34321: hmm so the pc being cloned cant be its own server? [04:07] dr_willis: no, or rather it can but has to have the clonezilla stuff booted, ie live CD or installed [04:07] wolfgang http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wubi_%28Ubuntu_installer%29 [04:07] i thought thats how i read the clonezilla site as they cloned itself to a 100+ pcs at the same time as a test [04:07] boom0917, thank you [04:08] so a working server with clonezliia could clone itself to other pcss on the lan via the netboot features or some other ways [04:08] your welcome [04:08] Wolfgang__: a wubi install is not a normal install.. I dont use windows8 so no idea onissues with a normal install on it. [04:08] !install [04:08] Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate [04:08] dr_willis: I see what you're getting at, but I don't think clonezilla is a package taht can be installed [04:08] I'll double check [04:09] dr_willis, is it a bad idea to try then? [04:09] I imagine the ubuntu forums and askubuntu.com have 1000s of posts on win8 installs [04:09] ok [04:09] Wolfgang__: to TRY wubi is ok.. just rember its a TEST setup [04:09] dr_willis: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1483992 , yeah it's only a distro and not an application:( [04:09] Maybe i should try it in vm? [04:10] dr_willis: I'll let it run overnight...thanks for your help! [04:10] 12.10 lubuntu in a vm works very well. [04:10] ok [04:10] Hi. I'm trying to list some dependencies needed to compile Ruby. Can someone list these in order of importance for such a compile? gcc automake libtool bison readline [04:10] Is virtual box the same as vm? [04:10] boytoy: install the build-essential package and let it go.. [04:11] vbox is a VM. as is vmware. and others.. [04:11] Ok [04:11] dr_willis: I need to know the order of importance [04:11] boytoy: theres the apt-get build-dep package command to pull in needed deps to compile a package also [04:11] boytoy: i dont see how the order matters.. or what your asking is confuseing.. [04:11] That's cool but that's not what I asked [04:12] time to clarify the quuestion then [04:12] Hi. I'm trying to list some dependencies needed to compile Ruby. Can someone list these in order of importance for such a compile? gcc automake libtool bison readline [04:12] Which is to say [04:13] Which of these tools are most important to a general build / compile process [04:13] Generally speaking [04:13] sort of hard to compile anything without gcc installed. ;) === resba is now known as resba|sleep [04:14] dr_willis: hehe [04:14] Dr_Willis. Have xubuntu on a USB. Have logged into it. Trying to copy home folder using is giving me permission errors. [04:14] this sounds suspuciously like a CS homework question... [04:14] yes that is definitely #1 on the list [04:14] This is Vivekananda [04:15] karpuragauram: you need to use sudo rights to copy things if they are not owned by your user. live cd user is called 'ubuntu' and wont be the same as your installed system normally === network is now known as Guest18205 [04:15] How can i get 12.04 in vm? [04:15] btw i dont have a vm. [04:15] karpuragauram: and wherfe you are copying to has to be writeable as a user.. or use sudo [04:15] !vbox [04:15] Virtualbox is a virtualizer for x86 and amd64 architectures. It's available in the package "virtualbox" in the !repositories, and you can download the Virtualbox Extension Pack for additional, non-Free functionality at http://virtualbox.org . Additional details can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox [04:16] install vbox.. get lubuntu 12.10 iso.. boot it in vboxx .. install [04:16] install vbox guest addations if they dont get installed by default. ;) [04:16] But won't I have to set up the sudo first. I don't have a password for it at the moment [04:16] dr_willis: it aint homework [04:16] karpuragauram: sudo on live cd has no password last i looked [04:16] boytoy: its just a very vague general question. ;) [04:17] downloads just has deb files. [04:17] Kk [04:17] vbox exists for windows... [04:17] ok [04:17] i use it there all the time.. [04:19] Hi all. I'm having trouble getting my BCM4401 NIC to work, and I think it's because ssb is getting in the way, but I can't do anything to unload it. [04:19] Whenever I try and rmmod or modprobe -rv ssb the terminal soft-hangs (I can ctrl+c out of it). [04:19] I'm running 12.04 from the Mythbuntu 64-bit distro. [04:20] My computer is warning me that it might be dangerous [04:20] you could black the ssb module so it never loads perhaps. [04:20] blacklist [04:20] Im fine right? [04:20] !blacklist [04:20] To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist.conf and add « blacklist » to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type « sudo update-initramfs -u » [04:20] Wolfgang__: we dont know what you are doing exactly.. and Windows has all sorts of idiotic warnings.. then does dangerous/damageing things without asking.... [04:21] what is modprobe exactly? [04:21] modprobe loads a 'module' into the kernel.. which are normally 'driver files' [04:21] Ok [04:21] okay what about dmesg [04:21] dr_willis, oh hell. I blacklisted it, but I forgot about update-initramfs. It's been a while since I've monkied with Ubuntu and I've been playing with FreeBSD all week, so I'm a bit turned around. [04:21] whatever.ko is normally a module file [04:21] is there a chuser type command that will let me temporarily operate as a different user? And if so, how do I do it and change back to my regular user once I'm done? [04:21] kmentat: ;) i rarely ahve to mess with the kernels. [04:21] oh my the way im stuck in windows for the time being, i have no computer at the moment [04:22] anyone know why there were two kernel updates this week? [04:22] su - %usernamehere% [04:22] IveBeenBit: you can use su to run a command as a differnt user. if thats what youneed [04:22] su - %usernamehere% [04:22] hey. I'm having trouble installing libtinyxml. can someone help? http://pastebin.com/cAespAWZ [04:22] dr_willis, How long should a new initramfs take to generate on an old Core2Duo? I don't imagine it should take nearly this long. [04:23] this is stupidly frustrating. haha. [04:23] kmentat: no idea. I rarely ever pay attention to such things.. i wouldent think more then a mion or 2 [04:23] dr_willis, Yes, I just thought of that - as in "sudo" but I am not after root access. I'm reading the su man page now and will report back if I need more info. Thanks. [04:23] Btw Dr_Willis. Thanks for being so patient and being online for so long helping everyone. [04:23] main use of su in ubuntu is to switch to a NON root user. ;) [04:24] dr_willis, oop, nevermind, now I'm getting some console output from it. Guess it really *is* taking its sweet time. [04:24] su billgates -c moneymaker.sh [04:24] ;) [04:24] if i wanted to log in as zp from a terminal running with superman logged in i would run superman$ su - zp [04:24] I'm trying to set up a virtual "range" for students to use to practice web administration. One of the computers is a ubuntu box that needs to host a forum. Trick is, the VM isn't allowed to connect to the live internet to download any packages to host. Is there a native forum that I can host on an out of the box ubuntu distro? [04:24] DarthEaron: id check man su to verify its syntax [04:25] dr_willis, come on. That joke is so old… it's su steveballmer -c loselotsofmoney.sh now [04:25] kmentat: whos that? [04:25] ;P [04:25] dr_willis: i used this a couple days ago on slackware... it should be the same [04:25] I'm not sure how I can get those dependencies [04:25] Ballmer's the guy who's running Microsoft these days, since Gates stepped aside a couple years ago. [04:25] su is root user [04:25] thanks dr_willis you cleared up some questions I had even after reading the su man page [04:25] mhaz: su switches user.. it Can switch to root... [04:26] mhaz but not on a default ubuntu setup [04:26] true dat... [04:26] dr_willis, Steve Ballmer is the guy running Microsoft now, since Bill Gates stepped aside a few years ago. Remember "Developers, developers, developers, developers, developers, developers, developers, developers, developers, developers, developers, developers, developers"? [04:26] everytime i was in root and wanted to use irssi i would run "su - zp" my terminal would then be a non root user and i would run irssi from threr [04:26] kmentat: not really. I dont pay much attention to pc news lately.. got sick of hearing whos sueing who every day [04:27] DarthEaron: you could jsut run 'login' for a similer effect i belive [04:27] being root and switching to a user.. is sort of backwards to the ubuntu mindset/setups [04:28] W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/user/ppa-name/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz 404 Not Found [04:28] Why did this not work after I entered the password? I got a "missing operand" error: su billgates -c mkdir ./test [04:28] y get this error when i do apt-get update [04:28] phoenixsampras, that isn't a valid PPA [04:28] dr_willis: never tried to use login command before... hmmm ill keep that in mind for when i get back [04:28] phoenixsampras: that looks like a totally wrong ppa.. looks like a geenric example ppa name [04:28] Is there any sandboxing software like www.sandboxie.com for ubuntu? I know about Chrooting and Virtual Machines but im thinking more specifically like sandboxie. [04:29] phoenixsampras, I'd bet money you copied and pasted and example as an actual command [04:29] like from the ppa help popup baloon. ;) [04:29] dr_willis: should i remove it? [04:29] tgm4883: i agree [04:29] phoenixsampras: its useless... so why wouldent you want to remove it? [04:30] dr_willis: so after this error is safe to do apt-get upgrade ? [04:30] it shouldent be breaking a apt-get update/upgrade in any case [04:30] its just a warning [04:30] dr_willis: do you know why there were two kernel updates this week? [04:30] W: Failed <--------- W = warning [04:30] I have vm how do i get a linux installer for it? [04:30] mhaz i never noticed. [04:31] anyone able to help me with the libtinyxml headers issue? [04:31] Wolfgang__: clarify what you mean.. we dont have ESP. [04:31] ok. must not be an issue. [04:31] any mmorpgs for ubuntu [04:32] I installed virtual box how do i get an installer for linux? [04:32] dr_willis: thanks!! [04:32] dr_willis, This was back in like 2000. He started with this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvsboPUjrGc and this was his encore at another event: http://youtu.be/8To-6VIJZRE [04:32] Wolfgang__: when using virtualbox. you really want to read its manual .. start downloading the lubuntu 12.10 iso file.. and read the vbox docs as it downloads [04:32] Wolfgang__, you stick the virtual CD (ISO) into the virtual cd drive on the virtual machine [04:32] ok [04:32] can you give me a link to the iso? [04:32] vbox hass some of the best manual/docs ive seen.. and no one ever reads it. ;) [04:32] !download [04:32] Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download !Quantal, and help keeping the servers' load low! [04:32] seriously [04:32] !lubuntu [04:32] lubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support. [04:33] wow man, you could have definatly googled that one [04:33] http://pastebin.com/cAespAWZ [04:33] !lmgtfy [04:33] While Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question. [04:33] !google [04:33] can someoneplease help me with this? [04:33] kmentat, I don't think "ubuntu download" would be considered google-fu [04:33] tds5016: whats your problem? [04:34] tds5016: its a good idea to give a summary of the problem. not just a paste.. (or did i miss the question) [04:34] tgm4883, prolly not. [04:34] sorry. tinxml won't install. [04:34] Why did this not work after I entered the password? I got a "missing operand" error: $ su billgates -c mkdir ./test [04:34] neither the headers or the library [04:34] Um where do i get the iso? can you just give me a link to the right one? [04:34] The problem is pretty simple: tgm4883 is trapped in dependency hell. [04:35] Wolfgang__: im on my phone.. so no.. the lubuntu homepage should have links [04:35] ok [04:35] tds5016: taking a look now [04:35] definitely dep hell... can someone help me grab these deps? [04:35] does this error mean the package is broke or my installation is? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1703872/ at first it was giving dependency errors but now it is just the one library [04:35] Wolfgang__, http://lubuntu.net/ — There's a big download link at the top. [04:35] tds5016: when is the last time you run sudo apt-get update? [04:36] So, I installed Ubuntu Touch Preview on my Nexus 10 [04:36] A Jolly Candy Like Download Button! but Will he press it? [04:36] ;) [04:36] seconds ago. that actually breaks too. haha. [04:36] anybody have any idea how long I should wait for it to boot up? [04:36] ethana3: checkin #ubuntu-tablet [04:36] hello, i am having trouble connecting to ssh via my public ip i have put my router in dmz and in my router put my server in dmz so i should be able to access all of its ports [04:36] http://imgur.com/W4kYm68 [04:36] dr_willis: thanks, will do [04:36] tds5016: can you put the attempt into pastebin? [04:36] Oblivion1500: router in the dmz? you got nested routers? [04:36] Oblivion1500: if router is in dmz then it will answer port. You still need to port forward since you ahve a router [04:37] double nat [04:37] shttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1704058/ [04:37] really, well let me do that [04:37] DarthEaron: ^ [04:37] dr_willis: Most likely dsl/cable model > router > pC [04:37] sorry about that. [04:37] http://paste.ubuntu.com/1704058/ [04:37] tds5016: also could you please put DarthEaron: in the begining of your messages, it makes things easier for me [04:37] shttp? is that like a more quiet version of http? [04:37] i never noticed a dmz setting needed for the router. [04:37] DarthEaron: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1704058/ [04:38] ;-) [04:38] tgm4883: or it's a really crappy version ;-) [04:38] when using 2 routers. i put the 2nd one one in some sort of hub/switch mode.. i recall [04:38] dr_willis: I use it to avoid a double nat. At one location the DSL modem puts thte internal router in the DMZ then I can control port forwarding on the internal router instead oon the dsl modem. [04:38] dr_willis, maybe the first router is some crappy ISP provided one that has the built in modem [04:39] ive never really used DSL/ADSL [04:39] Do i create a hard drive [04:39] ? [04:39] dr_willis: Same thing for cable modem. [04:39] Wolfgang__: do you recall us mentionging how valueable reading the vbox manual is? [04:39] Yes but that requires brain power [04:40] Wolfgang__: you want to install a virtual os into a virtual machine.. you need a virtual hd.. .... its not virtual rocket-surgery [04:40] lol [04:40] Thank you! [04:40] someone correct me if im wrong please because i lack confidence on this. but the errors your getting keep saying to use -tvv option so i think you should try sudo apt-get update -tvv [04:40] howeger there is a real virtual box manual at their homepage. [04:40] DarthEaron: I think the issue is with my firewall possibly. haha. [04:40] Do i want disk image or? [04:41] what is tvv? [04:41] tds5016: how would that make a difference? [04:41] when in doubt.. hit next... [04:41] if it works, no. haha. but it would be nice to know what is broken :-) [04:41] Wolfgang__, https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch05.html [04:41] there is a #virtualbox support channel i belive [04:41] Ok, so I think update-initramfs is hanging [04:41] they will proberly say to read the manual also... [04:41] histo: so forwarded both the modem to the router and the router to the server on port 22 [04:42] DarthEaron: still no love with -tvv [04:42] because to be honest.. we dont have the vbox dialogs/wizard memorized... [04:42] DarthEaron: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1704084/ [04:42] they have a help button on them dont they? [04:43] anyone here have one of the korean monitors? shimian, catleap, etc. And has it working with nvidia twinview ? === fan is now known as Guest7464 [04:43] I have been able to get the 2560x1440 shimian working fine but the 21" 1680x1050 monitor beside it will only run in 800x600, been messing with xorg.conf to no avail [04:44] is there a way to ignore checksum? [04:44] xadin: evenif you just plug it in by itself? [04:44] with apt-get? [04:44] Oblivion1500: You have a doulbe nat situation. [04:44] both work fine by themselves [04:44] I want dual working [04:44] xadin: as a test.. reduce the res on the other monitor.. see if you can then up the 2nd one.. [04:45] histo: do you want me to take off the dmz? [04:45] xadin: ive seen some limited cards not able to handle Huge dual monitor setuos [04:45] or what do you mean? [04:45] Oblivion1500: What I usually do to fix it if you can't put your modem in bridged mode and allow your router to handle the ocnneciton you need to: On the modem put the router in the DMZ also, then on the router forward ports to your internal ip of server. [04:45] it works in windows just fine [04:45] you're saying reduce the 2560x1440 monitor? [04:45] Could any body do me a favour? [04:45] xadin: and you are using thee windows drivers there also... which are not the same [04:45] My sd [04:45] DarthEaron: any other ideas? [04:45] Guest7464, depends on the favor [04:46] xadin: try differnt res;'s - i recall seeing this issue once a few months back. [04:46] my sd card cann't be recongnised [04:46] system is 12.04 lts [04:46] I have been trying but no matter what rez I set the 21" to it defaults to 800x600 [04:46] tds5016: take a look at pastebin.com/8nk6cq8 [04:46] clear [04:46] tds5016: take a look at pastebin.com/8nk6cq8 [04:46] xadin: what chipset? [04:46] hello [04:47] I can only set the rez in the xorg.conf file, nvidia-settings won't let me choose a rez other than the 2560x1440 which is only for the 27" [04:47] kmentnt [04:47] nvidia 560 [04:47] tds5016: see if that fits the issue your having [04:47] kmentat [04:47] tried a few different monitors [04:47] I mean, drivers [04:47] nvidia, not nouveau [04:47] unkown paste id [04:47] works fine in nouveau but I need the performance. [04:47] xadin: sounds likesome buggy drivers or other weirdness... [04:47] histo: on my modem my router is in dmz and forwarding port 22 to it, in my router my server is in dmz and having port 22 forwarded to it, what needs to be fixed with that? should i take my server out of dmz? [04:48] i was playigmn Team Fortress 2 in Noveau i think .. ;) by mistake the other day [04:48] DarthEaron: sorry ot rewrite, forgot to add your name... it's an unkown paste id ;-) [04:48] dmz was only temp untill i figured out the problem anyway [04:48] Where does grub keep its blacklist? [04:49] can nvidia not do xinerama? does it require twinview? [04:49] kmentat: a blacklist of what> [04:49] dr_willis: you didn't have any issues with Steam and the error I have? It was installing steam that made me start getting the nouveau2 error [04:49] Twinview is Xinerama-supercharged [04:49] tds5016: goto dragonforge.org click on the tab that says help this guy [04:49] BHXSpecter: i had some other steam quirks.. but its working now [04:49] dr_willis, modules. My update-initramfs hs hanging after adding a certain firmware, and now I'm trying to follow this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2095631 [04:50] Oblivion1500: on your modem don't forward any ports just put router in DMZ. The on router just forward port 22 to server. That's it and take server out of dmz [04:50] kmentat: i recall some kernel blacklist options but i dont recall the syntax.. it would be a setting on the kernel line i think in /etc/default/grub [04:51] hmm....I had some issues, but it told me to add the x-swat/x-updates to the list and now anything I try to update/upgrade/install/remove gives me the libdrm-nouveau2 error so I thought I would ask [04:51] how do you make chages to your kernal [04:51] dr_willis, that's fine, I'm just trying to find incongruities between the modprobe blacklist and the grub blacklist. [04:52] Well, that was no-go. [04:52] tds5016: anything? [04:52] I found someone with the same issue, same shimian 2560x1440, and same res for second monitor, he describes it here. https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1206170#p1206170 [04:52] doesn't seem to have worked :-( [04:52] did it change the output of apt-get update at all? [04:53] catleap and shimian are the same [04:54] 2wUGTYG>U:Y^9~%TKWEGWF=------------- [04:54] dr_willis: ya he has exactly the same problem. [04:54] sorry guys that was the cat [04:56] heh.. silly kitty. this isent reddit [04:56] It turns out the current charging bug has been fixed [04:56] exit [04:56] histo: i did that and im still getting a econnrefused error [04:57] Why did this not work after I entered the password? I got a "mkdir: missing operand" error: $ su billgates -c mkdir ./test [04:57] Anyone use GLC/Gamecaster? Is it really superior to using a "regular" X-level recording software? [04:57] Note to self: set up a fresh kernel to compile while I'm at work. This generic 3.5.whatever isn't thrilling me too much right now. [04:57] i use vlc to record my screen, its not too bad [04:59] didn't know vlc could record the screen....I always used recordmydesktop, but can't install it on my laptop due to the library error I get ..though I do have vlc installed [05:00] how do I change the descriptions that grub shows for the partitions on boot? [05:00] OK, dr_willis, in answer to your question: yes, I blacklisted those modules, did an update-initramfs and I still can't use my network card. ssb is still loaded. [05:00] would it be safe to install directx in wine [05:00] ? [05:00] AcidRain2012, it's in a sort of sandbox, so I can't imagine why not. [05:00] I mean, it's not like DirectX will be running when wine isn't. [05:01] depends on the DX version as I've got errors about OS not being supported [05:01] it may be built into the kernel.. but that would be weird kmentat [05:01] kmentat, but my goal is to use directx to create a program that will poll ip addresses to get game data. so im kinda creating a program that needs to be ran 24/7 [05:01] wine has its own directx [05:01] dr_willis, suddenly compiling a whole new kernel from source doesn't seem totally crazy. [05:01] dr_willis: how to your mess with the kernal? [05:01] or use the winetricks tool [05:02] Can I cross-compile a Linux kernel from within OS X? [05:02] DarthEaron: i dont any more [05:02] !kernel [05:02] The core of Ubuntu is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, and if you need to troubleshoot issues, you can try a !Mainline kernel instead, but if you insist, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile (see also !Stages) [05:02] histo: is there another answer? [05:03] thanks guys, i just thought that the kernal was something really low level that we did not have contyrol over anymore === Oblivion1500_ is now known as Oblivion1500 [05:05] !kernal [05:05] !kernal [05:05] Doesn't know about KERNAL? What a crock. The bot should learn some history ;P [05:05] could anyone help me with some modules i want loading on boot and making stuff automount http://pastebin.com/SAtCsTMi [05:05] kernEl? [05:06] Oblivion1500, KERNAL. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KERNAL [05:06] lol [05:07] Popcorn Kernel [05:07] what package would install the string library? [05:07] Kernal mustard [05:07] #include makes my C program explode. [05:07] haha. [05:08] tds5016: you did install the build-essential package? [05:08] yeah. [05:08] that's what's weird. [05:08] haha. [05:09] strings are for lolcats. But ive no idea.. i tend to just shotgun install dev packages till i get them all. [05:10] so nobody here can help me with my ssh issue? [05:11] dr_willis: what dev packages might have it? [05:11] i guess ill just go over to mean old openssh [05:13] oh ffs [05:13] I don't even have ncurses? [05:13] What kind of distro is this?! [05:15] come on man it comes with gnome what did u expect :P [05:16] kmentat: install if if you need it [05:16] Anyone wanna help me install Florence Virtual Keyboard [05:17] iceroot, this machine has no network connectivity (the problem I'm trying to fix), and I don't feel like manually chasing down the dependency tree like this is the stone age of package management. [05:17] I'm going back to trying to patch around this stupid broken module. [05:18] kmentat: if you have a support question you are welcome to use this channel if you want to troll/flame please dont use this channel [05:18] kmentat: theres not really any developer packages installed by default. [05:18] dr_willis, yeah, I keep forgetting that... === Kasjopaja23111 is now known as Kasjopaja [05:18] I was wondering if 13.04 can be installed via wubi? [05:18] kmentat: there are ppa's out for newer kernels ibelive [05:18] I got used to FreeBSD and how everything is built from source. [05:18] this library not existing sucks. haha. [05:19] ppa? [05:19] 13.04 is out? [05:19] Wolfgang__: no [05:19] ok [05:19] Does anyone know how to get Bluetooth setup especially for a GC-WB300D network card? I've been reading on mail-archive there has been some activity with this issue and I would seriously like to use the bluetooth featueres on my WIFI+BT card. [05:19] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ [05:19] Whats is the difference from lubuntu and ubuntu? [05:20] Wolfgang__: the desktop, ubuntu is using unity, lubuntu is using lxde which is designed to use on not so powerfull pcs [05:20] ok [05:20] What is unity? [05:21] !unity | Wolfgang__ [05:21] Wolfgang__: Unity is the default UI since Ubuntu 11.04. Unity is a shell for GNOME. see http://unity.ubuntu.com. For a GNOME 2-like experience, see !notunity [05:21] dr_willis, when installing directx, i get an error saying one of the dlls couldnt be loaded [05:22] AcidRain2012: as ffar as i know wine comes with directx. or you use the winetricks tools to instgall needed dirextx bits.. you DONT run the directx installer in wine [05:22] i bet #winehq would know more [05:23] Unity can be very slow when used in virtualbox. but with vm;s its normallybest to keep them as light as possible anyway [05:23] ok [05:23] The iso is taking forever. before it finiished earlyer my laptop died [05:24] So i had to restart [05:25] Wolfgang__, is a torrent an option? [05:25] Those are pretty quick, and resume nicely. [05:25] Yes [05:25] http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads [05:25] I dont have utorrent or anything though [05:26] !bluetooth [05:26] For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup [05:26] im already like half way done [05:26] Anyone know how to install Florence Virtual Keyboard [05:27] Well that was weird. Disk drive for /tmp was not ready... [05:27] THERE WE GO! Found out my b44 had been blacklisted by *grumblegrumble* 1@#!£ª¨¶ing Broadcom. [05:27] anyone here know how to add a windows option back into grub? i lost mine and have been trying to get it back for two days, a few here have already tried to help but im still stuck! [05:28] currently trying to use grub customizer to add it but .... im a noob [05:28] The BluetoothSetup page is old [05:29] whats the most common webpage used to get new themes and icon packages [05:29] dr_willis, dx9 failed to install properly. i gave up on it. not that big of an issue === ThatOneGuy is now known as Guest33957 [05:30] Hey everyone. I shrunk the /home partition from a live CD then tried to boot into my os but getting home not found error and login not happenning. What should I do to set home again to the now shrunk partition [05:30] karpuragauram: check its uuid vs whats in fstab [05:30] !uuid [05:31] To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID) [05:31] karpuragauram: have a look at /etc/fstab there should be a line with a UUID and your home, see the new UUID with "sudo blkid" and enter the new UUID for your home in /etc/fstab [05:31] internal mic fails untell i switch it to mic then back to internal [05:31] grrrr [05:32] Got it [05:32] Trying [05:32] anyone ever loose option to boot into windows after ubuntu install? [05:33] demkantor: its possible grubs confused and not seeing the windows install [05:33] Could I get blkid to gimme the sizes too. It is mixed up so i need to find the crrect juisi [05:34] Uuid [05:34] dr_willis: yeah i think thats what up, i know windows is still on hard drive but i cant boot to it, ive tried everything the forums have to give to no avail [05:34] you could rerun sudo update-grub if that fails.. add a custome entry in /etc/grub.d/40_custom [05:34] Quantal Quetzal: would it be ok to delete .local/share/Trash/expunged ? it currently contains 8.1GB [05:35] its your deleted files [05:35] !trash [05:35] Your GUI file manager's Trash folder is located at ~/.local/share/Trash/ for files moved to trash from your hard disk and .../.Trash-userid/ on external devices for files moved to trash from the device. [05:35] also a few helpfull people have tried to help me as weel, tried the update-grub, nothing helps, tried setboot+something, tried the boo repair [05:35] empty the trash via the filemanager is a better way [05:36] dr_willis: how do i add custom entry? [05:36] im trying to do just that with grub customizer right now i think... [05:36] edit the file i gave earlier... [05:36] dr_willis, does sudo update-frub attempt to empty the trash via the filemanager? [05:36] update-grub* [05:37] surbs: err no. why would it touch user files [05:37] dr_willis, so what is meant by via filemanager? [05:38] the default desktop filemanager you normally use when you click on a folder.... [05:38] thats nautilus btw.. [05:39] dr_willis, ok truth thats what i thought. was checking to make sure that we were on same page! and oh rele thank you will not make mistake again. [05:40] not sure how it could get onfused with grub..... [05:41] i dont see etc/grub, do i have to add that folder into /etc ? [05:41] demkantor: i think i said grub.d / [05:41] dr_willis, <--- becuase you are not tagging before your posts, was unable to distinguish who you were talking to. [05:41] Hello! I'm having an issue I don't have in Windows. My trackpad seems laggy when I use it but my USB mouse I plug in is perfectly smooth. Any ideas? [05:41] im blind. [05:41] * MrHacks sighs because he will never get his bluetooth controller set up for steam because the bluetooth documentation is older than his grandma [05:42] gamepads for tf2? ;) [05:43] I'm using Ubuntu 12.10 with everything updated as well [05:43] dr_willis: what do i add inside the 40_custom? im new so not sure the exact words to add [05:43] demkantor: add whatever entry would be needed to boot the os you want.. I dont know what a stanza would look like for windows.. you would have to hit up the grub docs/guides.forums for that [05:44] sixaxis. I just need to figure out why this m****f***ing GC-WB300D network device doesn't show up on 12.10 neither this targus bluetooth dongle [05:44] dr_willis: can I ask about ubottu? [05:44] dr_willis: thanks, ill dig up that forum! === mpmc|Away is now known as mpmc [05:45] all i know about the bot.. would basically be at the bots homepage. MatthewL [05:45] Thanks! [05:46] dr_willis, thank you for the help, why did 8GB get moved their? is there a way to prevent having files moved there after being deleted? [05:46] dr_willis, there* [05:47] How are Debian packages put together as opposed to rpm? [05:47] And where are babies made from? [05:49] Why is Ubuntu Debian based? Philosophy or technical? [05:51] surbs: thats the function of the trashcan... just like in windows [05:51] how do I find the repo that libreadline5-dev is hosted at? want to add it to my sources.list [05:51] !find libreadline [05:51] Found: libreadline-dev, libreadline-gplv2-dev, libreadline5, libreadline5-dbg, libreadline6, libreadline6-dbg, libreadline6-dev, libruby, libreadline-java, libreadline-java-doc (and 2 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libreadline&searchon=names&suite=quantal§ion=all [05:52] libreadline5 seems to be in the repos [05:52] !info libreadline5 [05:52] libreadline5 (source: readline5): GNU readline and history libraries, run-time libraries. In component main, is optional. Version 5.2-12 (quantal), package size 122 kB, installed size 319 kB [05:52] !info libreadline5-dev [05:52] Package libreadline5-dev does not exist in quantal [05:52] thanks, this is the one I want but I can't find the source: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/libreadline5-dev [05:52] dr_willis, i guess my novice status is showing quite a bit here hahaha. just find it interesting that when something something is deleted it still isn't "fully deleted"? unless ubuntu provides a process to do this? [05:52] hmm. perhaps its a diffent name package for the -devvv [05:53] surbs: that would be the 'emptying the trash via the file manager' that works identically in windows... [05:53] Magical bot [05:53] there is a way to directly delete i recall. [05:53] johncrist1988 [05:53] or use the command line [05:53] Hello everyone [05:53] hi === john__ is now known as johncrist1988 [05:54] hello [05:55] !Info Debian [05:55] dr_willis, so "rm" is sufficient for "fully deleting" files/directories/ect? or is a backup for recovery purposes always going to be stored in the trash? [05:55] !info packages [05:55] Package packages does not exist in quantal [05:55] surbs: theres delete to trashcan tools for the cli if you want them [05:55] rm does not move to the trash [05:56] !info ant [05:56] ant (source: ant): Java based build tool like make. In component main, is optional. Version 1.8.2-4build2 (quantal), package size 1793 kB, installed size 2086 kB [05:56] !info maven [05:56] maven (source: maven): Java software project management and comprehension tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.4-3 (quantal), package size 1265 kB, installed size 1490 kB [05:57] Wow [05:58] !info gcc [05:58] gcc (source: gcc-defaults (1.117ubuntu2)): GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.7.2-1ubuntu2 (quantal), package size 5 kB, installed size 41 kB [05:58] MatthewL: you can /msg the bot [05:58] in fact, it is preferred [05:59] Beauty [06:00] dr_willis, ahhh after reading the "man rm" i think im looking to use "shred" instead of "rm." [06:02] dr_willis, thanks once again for the help. your awesome :) [06:06] 'secure deletion of stuff you dont want the wife to find' ;) [06:10] anyone have torrentleech invite? [06:10] dr_willis, hahahaha good thing i wont be married at least 10+ years XD [06:10] dr_willis, am restarting to update [06:11] anyone can help me to make my USB tethering work? it keep attempting to reconnect but seems always failed :( [06:11] help me straight by teamviewer please [06:11] fuck you everyone [06:12] go the hell fucks [06:12] hi [06:12] im using 12.10 LTS [06:12] when i'm in terminal, how do i complete a file name before I finish typing it? [06:13] i thought it was tab, but tab is not working [06:13] i mean 12.04 LTS [06:14] BillyZane2: it is tab.. if you are using bash [06:14] hey willis! [06:14] BillyZane2: try echo $SHELL [06:14] ok [06:15] i am definitely in bash [06:15] i start by typing the name, in a case sensitive manner, i press tab, no completion. so weird [06:15] theres a /etc/bash_completion scriot i recall thats normally ran by the .profile or .bashrc [06:15] i am using konsole [06:16] not weird at all if bash did not enable the bash_completion [06:16] oh really [06:16] hmmm [06:16] the whole bash completion is a some what recent thing. :) i rember not having it for years. [06:16] then ubuntu i recall started using it by default [06:16] it's very convenient [06:17] check your .bashrc and .profile and other .* files compared to whats in /etc/skel see if they ahve been altered. or missing [06:17] make sure that /etc/bash.bashrc doesn't have the lines about completion commented out [06:17] i don't really need to get this fixed, but i'd like to know why it doesn't work and how to activate it [06:17] but that would be very odd. [06:17] you are on a normal desktop install and not a vps? === Vampire0_ is now known as Vampire0 [06:17] ok, i'll check [06:17] there a command/script in /etc/ that bash runs. to enable the feature i recall [06:17] dr_willis: doesn't really matter if they're missing, if they are it uses the /etc/skel stuff [06:17] in /etc/skel , all i see is one file: examples.desktop [06:18] oh wait [06:18] i see more if i do ls -alh [06:18] ? [06:18] there's a .bashrc and a bash .profile [06:18] its in .bashrc [06:18] look at the file [06:18] err [06:18] yeah [06:18] hi there [06:18] /etc/bash_completion [06:19] is it sufficient to determine if a package is installed to use `'which' e.g. `whichaptitude' [06:19] i was wondering if there exist any handwriting chinese virtual keyboard as in iphone [06:19] hmm... [06:19] tgunr, one sec I actually read something about this [06:19] dr_willis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1704530 [06:20] I'm looking at a bash script which needs to find out if a package exists, and install it if not [06:20] what should i be looking for? completion? .... [06:20] i installed an Ubuntu laptop for my chinese family but they don't know pin yin and they need to write the glyphe [06:20] exit [06:20] look at the last few lines.. its in there BillyZane2 [06:20] umm.. dr willis, i know there's a grep | completion i should be using, but i'm not sure how the full syntax goes [06:20] no idea why its not enabled. try source .bashrc and se eif it starts working [06:20] hello? [06:20] sorry i just reconnect [06:20] i see it dr_willis [06:21] please help me to get my USB tethering work [06:21] is it.... cat .bashrc grep| completion [06:21] BillyZane2: could be somthing else thats not getting ran or some other chanvge that you did thats not running all the scripts [06:21] so, fresh install of ubuntu 12.10 on laptop, steam shows up in software center, installs and works. Fresh install of 12.04 on my desktop and steam is missing from the software center, what gives? [06:21] BillyZane2: you cansee the last paragraph of code in .bashrc looks for the bash completion stuff. and runs it if its seen. ;) [06:22] dr_willis: i saw it after you pointed it out. how did you know it would be there? [06:22] how do you even know how to find that file [06:22] can someone help me [06:22] dr_willis: a guy in #xorg helped me get the video working, the config that guy posted should not have worked for him, all I had to do was set a correct modeline. [06:22] please!!! [06:22] these korean monitors rock [06:22] BillyZane2: its been in there for years [06:22] * xjdesx pm me if you have time to kill, you know how to install aircrack and you want to make $10 via paypal right now!! [06:23] you are truly gifted. i have so much to learn [06:23] BillyZane2: and those are the standard bash stgartup files [06:23] xjdesx: download source.. compile source.. run binary [06:23] no [06:23] doesn't work [06:23] ohh [06:23] xjdesx: send the $$ to an aniumal shelter [06:23] i need someone to actually help me. I'm new to linux, new to ubuntu, new to Vmware [06:24] xjdesx: or find a ppa for it [06:24] ppa? [06:24] xjdesx you should try #backtrack [06:24] running aircrack in vmware? is that even possible? [06:24] tgunr, use the "hash" command [06:24] like [06:24] "hash git" [06:24] and check the exit code [06:24] bean: trying [06:24] xjdesx: you are using ubuntu or backtrack? [06:24] omg... something weird just happened... konsole crashed. and now half my applications are closed === jericho is now known as Guest59582 [06:25] BillyZane2: if the parent process dies.. so do the childern (launched from it ) processes - mostof the time [06:26] hi [06:26] you are awesome, you know that? thanks for all the help over the last few weeks [06:26] tgunr, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/592620/check-if-a-program-exists-from-a-bash-script seems to be the best reference on this [06:26] ubuntu [06:26] 12.0.4 [06:27] Guest59582, hi [06:27] I don't see much difference between `hash command; echo $?' and `which command; echo $?' [06:27] !find aircrack [06:27] Found: aircrack-ng [06:27] !info aircrack-ng [06:27] aircrack-ng (source: aircrack-ng): wireless WEP/WPA cracking utilities. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1-4 (quantal), package size 816 kB, installed size 2084 kB [06:27] aircrack-ng seems to be in the normal repos xjdesx [06:27] sudo apt-get install aircrack-ng [06:28] it is and it's preinstalled on backtrack, no muss no fuss. [06:28] * tgunr wonders why he needs aircrack, its only good for WEP which no one really uses [06:28] description says wep/wpa [06:28] ;) [06:28] and yes, you can use backtrack in VM [06:28] but can you use aircrqack in a vm [06:29] yep [06:29] tgunr, yeah, things i've ready, like that stack overflow ? seem to say its best to use hash tho [06:29] AKAIK no one has/can crack WPA yet except maybe NSA [06:29] or would it be cracking your virtual netsork. ;) [06:29] ok, will use that for now, thanks bean [06:31] deb http://ubuntu2.cica.es/ubuntu/ubuntu/pool/universe/a/aircrack-ng/ [06:32] how come i cant add that as a source? [06:32] i can't add a repo [06:32] the universe repo is one of the default repos.. you just enable it in the software-sources tool [06:32] how are you doing it? [06:32] !universe [06:32] The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories [06:33] what?? [06:33] can someone PM me please [06:33] i really will pay $10 for a tutorial [06:33] software-sources.. click to enable universe [06:33] but your undivided attention [06:33] xjdesx you need to make more sense [06:33] bean: ok hash is correct as a builtin as I need to chect the exit staus [06:33] tgunr: do you have any source to that claim? I thought WPA and WPA2 were both crackable for along time now [06:33] xjdesx: you tried a simple 'sudo apt-get install aircrack-ng' yet? [06:33] $100 might generate some interest [06:34] hi === andrew is now known as Guest51688 [06:34] xjdesx you could consider listening and following some of the good advice you've been given for free :) [06:35] actually a 'sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install aircrack-ng' would be better [06:35] i have tried EVERY tutorial [06:35] I've been working on this for a few days [06:35] xjdesx: i dont know whatg sort of tutoriual you need.. you just install it same as you would any other packabge [06:35] i even tried editing the common.stk [06:35] its in the default repositories [06:35] xjdesx but you haven't told us what your problem is' [06:35] it doesn't work [06:35] so we have no idea what you have been doing for 2 days [06:35] i get so many errors [06:35] wiggmpk: negative, big difference on how the two work, WEP can be cracked easily notso WPA, unless things have changed in the past few month, I was looking at it last fall for a client [06:35] hold on..how do I enable repos? [06:36] in terminal [06:36] how do i install what i need for adding repos [06:36] cus in Ubuntu software mananger it does not work! [06:36] xjdesx: edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file and uncomment the ones you need [06:36] tgunr: I would agree with you if it was WPA-Enterprise, but PSK encryption doesnt take much.. just time [06:36] xjdesx: if your software manager is not working.. then you got deeper issues.. [06:37] xjdesx: and we gave you the exact commands for the terminal to install the package [06:37] i've done all those cmds [06:37] im sorry for bugging you guys i know it's annoying being on the receiving end [06:37] i've done sudo apt-get install .. [06:37] xjdesx: tried --> 'sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install aircrack-ng' and tell us error messages would be a good starting point [06:37] wget http://www... [06:37] xjdesx if they didn't work pastebin the errors so we can help [06:37] ok [06:38] wget? what wget? [06:38] should I be root? [06:38] or my own user [06:38] note the use of SUDO.... [06:38] geez [06:38] you use sudo to gain root rights as needed [06:38] dr_willis, i'm new to linux [06:38] total noob [06:38] ease up [06:38] xjdesx: so we have to wonder why you are wanting aircrack then... [06:39] yep [06:39] isent the universe repo enabled by default on 12.04+ ? [06:39] B/c I just moved into a new apartment and i can't get into the router to open ports formy xbox and amillion other devices [06:39] xjdesx: if u r noob so what 4 you trying to crack wifi? [06:39] i have no access to router [06:39] dr_willis: it was for me [06:39] they wont give me password, and believe me i'm really good w/ comps w windows [06:39] so on a clean new instgall.. the 'sudo apt-get install aircrack-ng' should just work [06:40] i know how to bypass stuff, get login info, etc === ident is now known as Guest1060 [06:40] xjdesx: go get a bottle of wine, settle down and study the subject [06:40] how do i do a clean install? how do i remove everything related to aircrack [06:41] tgunr, I'm going to. The problem is, I think my linux is messed up. It's not on a disc, i'm using VMware and i just feel like it wasnt properly installed [06:41] xjdesx: when you first install - the universe repo should be enabled and those commands should just work.. whatever tutorials you have followed may havce broken things.. we dont kno w what they did [06:41] xjdesx: askubuntu.com, google, stackoverflow all are at your siposal [06:41] i have repos installed [06:41] xjdesx: perhaps a clean install to a new vmware session would be the best place to start [06:41] xjdesx: and you realize what your doing is most probably illegal right? [06:41] it just all of a sudden wont let me add new ones [06:41] * tgunr is no longer interested [06:42] i'm not doing it to "hack" im doing it just to have access to my router that I pay for monthly [06:42] i suggest a cleannew install in a new vm session, then try the commands gaven. [06:42] k [06:42] then come back with any error messages [06:42] im gonna re-install [06:42] ok [06:42] thank u [06:42] and read the ubuntu manual while you install [06:42] !manual | Xjs|moonshine [06:42] Xjs|moonshine: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/ [06:42] oops [06:42] he left [06:42] dr_willis: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [06:43] :) [06:43] its amazeing the things people think they need to do.. must be windows mindset. [06:43] eighth day wonder if you ask me dr [06:43] I don't get how cracking a wifi password would give him access to forward ports [06:43] wiggmpk: me either. ;) [06:43] of course.. aircrack has been ported to other os's i imagine also.. [06:44] im still not sure how aircrack in a vm gets info from the wireless network.. [06:44] I'm trying to get a USB wifi adapter working because my internal is dead... I have the hardware switch OFF, because having it on causes some sort of short and my laptop hard powers off... However because of that network manager thinks that the USB wifi dongle should be disabled as well! How do I beat that thing into line? [06:44] dr_willis: what i know isairkack-ng doesnt works properly under win os [06:44] wiggmpk: i don't have my notes on the subject but if WPA/WPA2 can be cracked I'm sure the gates of hell would be opened [06:45] tozen: probably because Windows drivers wont support packet injection [06:45] tgunr: quick google search can give you more than a few links on the subject [06:45] tgunr: I've never personally accomplished it.. only exploiting WPS bugs [06:47] Hey everyone. Just starting the net upgrade to lucid. It is telling me that it can take a couple of hours!! Also can I choose to install lubntu right now rather than unity for 12.04 [06:47] upgrade to precise pangolin sorry [06:48] also rfkill doesn't report the USB wifi device as being blocked (hard or soft) [06:48] Hi, I am using "vim -O file1 file2" functionality to open two files into a single vim window instance. I wanted to scroll both the files simultaneously. I searched it on internet and foud ":set scrollbind and :set noscrollbind" to enable and disable it. But this doesn't work. Why? please help. [06:48] dr_willis: I got back on and things are working ok after the shrink. NOw trying the upgrade [06:48] the_dark_knight: you'll have way better luck in #vim === grep is now known as Guest99264 [06:49] the_dark_knight: I think that's specific enough of a question there's little hope of getting help here [06:49] why do you want to scroll them simultaneously though? are you comparing them? [06:49] cause there's :diffthis if you are [06:49] Should I start the upgrade ?? I am waiting for someone to comment before I do [06:50] Ademan: any comments ?? dr_willis still around ?? [06:50] i have problem with connecting to a web service (soap) on the network from ubuntu, its working on a windows os [06:51] any idea why is that happening ? [06:51] Vivekananda: the only way I can think of is to remove ubuntu-desktop meta-package and install in its place lubuntu-desktop, then do the upgrade. But I would recommend keeping a fairly "standard" software loadout for upgrades... [06:52] rtp4: if networking is working, there's no reason why a soap request would be different, what's the service? [06:52] Ademan: How do I undo :diffthis [06:53] rtp4: and what error are you getting, how are you accessing the service? etc etc [06:53] Ademan: Then I proceed with it and later change things. :) I also want to clean up the system as it is taking 10 gigs now whearas it started with 4 ~5. Any ways to accomplish that?? Also I would like to try libreoffice. will that automatically replace oo that I have here ? [06:53] am able to reach the host from my browser and the soap request is working when i try from soapui [06:53] am getting timeout [06:53] i think [06:53] since its taking long and then giving me an error [06:53] the problem is with php soap call [06:54] but am sure the php is correct because its working on my co-worker [06:54] which uses windows os [06:54] Vivekananda: I believe that ubuntu-desktop in precise should include libreoffice so it should be installed [06:54] rtp4 how are connecting to the host? by ip address? or domain? [06:55] how are you* === ThatOneGuy is now known as Guest60916 [06:55] hey guys do I need a bind server for the mail server? [06:55] Vivekananda: sudo apt-get autoremove # this will remove unneeded packages, I don't know how much space that will reclaim for you though [06:55] by ip [06:55] hi all [06:55] Ademan: How do I undo :diffthis ? [06:55] son_: I don't believe so but you need an MX record somewhere [06:55] I already have a MX record [06:56] Ademan: already tried and not much help :(. But is okay. Am upgrading now [06:56] Vivekananda: im not even sure what you are doing. ;) [06:56] but I always get an error saying status=bounced [06:56] so dominic any idea why is this happenening ? [06:56] the_dark_knight: :diffoff [06:56] the_dark_knight: I didn't remember, I just went to :h diffthis and it was below [06:57] dr_willis : lol ok . I had less space on my root partition so I created more by shrinking the one right next to it which was the / home. Now with enough space on root I am starting the upgrade to precise [06:57] hmm seems like this is not a networking issue rtp4..your calling it from php right? hmm can you please somehow tell us what is the error message? [06:57] rtp4: are the computers on the same network? You'll need the exact error to correctly diagnose this [06:57] Ademan will you help me? [06:58] son_: sorry, I don't have an answer [06:58] yes they are on the same network [06:58] son_: what's the body of the rejection email? [06:58] son_: paste it at pastebin.ca or something [06:59] when i use nusoap i get this error "HTTP Error: Unsupported HTTP response status 303 See Other (soapclient->response has contents of the response)" [06:59] ok wait [06:59] hi... im having problems with my laptop's network driver. my laptop is lenovo G480. im using ubuntu 12.04. i have already followed this: http://pastebin.com/L8QhmJRn but still im facing problems, and i cant connect using cable. and sometimes my laptop hangs which based on logs i guess is caused by netwwork. === patrick is now known as Guest33925 [07:00] dr_willis: My stance now ?? any clearer :) [07:00] rtp4: 303 is a redirect, what service is this? [07:01] well i got some real work to do... bbl [07:01] Ademan here it its http://pastebin.com/embed_js.php?i=hbcKLsfi [07:02] Ademan, what do you mean what service is this ? [07:02] Ademan: thanks [07:03] son_: hrm, that's odd. You put in placeholders for user@yahoo.com etc right? [07:03] rtp4: what service are you accessing? [07:03] yes [07:03] do you have any idea what my error is? [07:03] I already contacted godaddy for that issue [07:03] but still no reply [07:04] son_: it sort of sounds like a whitelist issue. google smtp 553 though, that's all I'm doing [07:04] the_dark_knight: np [07:04] Ademan, am trying to call a method ( http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14997805/php-soapclient-timeout-ubuntu ) [07:05] rtp4: right, what service are you calling the method on? Is this custom? [07:05] Ademan, the webservice is custom, its java web service [07:06] Ademan, but the client is php [07:07] rtp4: does the client run on your computer, or is it on another server? [07:08] Ademan, the client is on my pc and the webservice is on the network [07:09] the webservice in on another pc on the network [07:09] rtp4: you said it's written in php, do you have a web server running on your PC for it? [07:10] #update repository [07:10] help me [07:10] maman_: what is your question? [07:10] #ubunti [07:12] Ademan, yeah i have apache2 running [07:12] maman_, Miss Cleo has the day off. Please ask your question so we know what you want help with. [07:12] how to install theme on ubuntu [07:12] how to install theme on ubuntu [07:12] cfhowlett: had no idea she used ubuntu! [07:13] :-p === silver is now known as Guest66114 [07:13] newbie [07:13] maman_, use Ubuntu Software Center to install themes [07:13] heeh [07:13] oh ,, [07:13] good [07:14] rtp4: can you put some logging code in the php to find out the exact error? [07:14] install VGA Sis [07:14] install VGA Sis [07:14] Ademan, what should i log ? [07:15] anyone have a simple named.conf how to walkthrough for bind 9.8.1 - btw already tried the bind channel [07:16] ademan_ I am not too fluent in English [07:16] ademan_ I am not too fluent in English [07:16] maman_: what language? [07:16] indonesia [07:16] indonesia [07:16] !indonesia | maman_ [07:16] maman_: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia [07:17] I am having a weird problem, I can't seem to connect to IRC with either xchat or smuxi. On a whim, I tried connecting via a web client, and was able to get in [07:18] stuck_: freenode is now requiring SASL for certain IP address ranges, that bit me the other day [07:18] that might be what's going on? [07:18] Please translate that french into english [07:19] What should I do? [07:19] How do I modify my irc clients so they can do this SASL thing? [07:20] !info iptables [07:20] iptables (source: iptables): administration tools for packet filtering and NAT. In component main, is standard. Version 1.4.12-2ubuntu2.1 (quantal), package size 357 kB, installed size 1224 kB [07:20] stuck_: first, what happens when you try to connect to freenode? === silver is now known as Guest58500 [07:21] help me [07:21] help me [07:21] It keeps on searching servers, trying different ports and stuff [07:21] google [07:22] Odd thing, it seems that when I am connected via this web client, I was then able to connect via my installed clients [07:22] tolong saya [07:22] tolong saya [07:22] !indonesia | maman_ [07:22] maman_: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia [07:23] Why would being logged in via a web client allow me to log in via installed clients, when i have tried countless times before without webclient unsuccessfully [07:24] stuck_, just for fun: install the xchat addon to firefox and see if you can get it that way... [07:25] I was unable to find xchat in addons via the addon search function, it found other irc clients, but not that one [07:25] stuck_, sorry. chatzilla is there [07:26] stuck_, as is a freenode irc client [07:26] Ok, I will install chatzilla [07:29] hmm, the download seems stuck, the progress bar hasn't budged a inch [07:29] stuck_, patience [07:29] You mean even though the progress bar is completely empty, it could be fine? [07:30] hey [07:30] hi [07:30] stuck_, look around and see if there's an approval tab or pop-up requiring your input ... [07:30] SaiPhen, greetings [07:30] maman_, hmmm? [07:30] your name [07:30] heheh [07:30] None [07:31] [07:31] cfhowlett, how are you? [07:31] minimed windows and brought em back, and nothing on task bar, [07:31] *minimized [07:31] fine [07:31] hehe [07:31] stuck_, are you at school or work? someplace where policies may be blocking your access? [07:31] SaiPhen, good. what's your ubuntu question? [07:31] no, home, private ISP [07:32] question, i have the login disabled upon booting into ubuntu...after a minute or so of being "in" the system, I get a popup saying my login keyring didnt get unlocked or something...what's that all about? [07:32] dont' have one... was just saying hi to everyone [07:32] stuck_, restart FF and failing that reboot ubuntu then run apt-get updates [07:32] Ubuntu needs to get into the hardware game, now. [07:32] Microsoft is in! [07:33] I want to head the department! [07:33] rufus [07:33] cfhowlett, restart ff for getting chatzilla? [07:33] hi ,, help me [07:33] hi ,, help me [07:33] anyone? [07:34] stuck_, yes. [07:34] malas ah [07:34] xiambax, please take this discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic so we can keep the support channel ... supportive [07:34] xiambax: i'm not sure how rich shuttleworth is, but i don't think they can just copy google and sell devices at near loss/no profit [07:35] ok sip [07:36] cfhowlett, any ideas? [07:36] pishkur, over my head. osrry. [07:36] cfhowlett is installing chatzilla that useful for determing why my regular installed clients are having issues? BTW, I shut down Xchat and smuxi when they were connected, then restarted xchat and tried connecting again, and its doing it again [07:37] Endless "* Connection failed. Error: Network is unreachable Cycling to next server in FreeNode..." [07:37] But somehow connecting here, allowed me to connect there [07:38] but it was apparently the act of connecting, not being connected. [07:38] stuck_, on the theory that xchat was blocked as an app or that xchats defaults ports were blocked, i suggested chatzilla to see if a non-web based irc client could connect ... if so, you've got a setting somewhere in your system blocking access. Ports? I don't know. [07:39] I have lots of windows up with firefox, how can I restart it and keep those windows? [07:39] without restarting my PC [07:39] stuck_, save the open tabs [07:39] stuck_, bookmark all tabs [07:39] AS a session? Any way to avoid that? === andrew is now known as Guest44741 [07:40] I mean just to have it restart in the same way as when I restart my PC? [07:42] stuck_, to retain the tabs you currently have open in FF? You've got to save them somehow ... [07:42] stuck_, or am I misunderconstruing what you're saying [07:42] hi... im having problems with my laptop's network driver. my laptop is lenovo G480. im using ubuntu 12.04. i have already followed this: http://pastebin.com/L8QhmJRn but still im facing problems, and i cant connect using cable. and sometimes my laptop hangs which based on logs i guess is caused by netwwork. [07:43] When I restart my PC, all my current tabs autoreload when I start FF, is there a way to get that without reloading my PC? [07:43] Hi [07:43] I can't browse from pc to my android device via bluetooth [07:44] *into [07:44] I've found 'Browse Files on Device' [07:44] cfhowlett: get what I mean? [07:44] cristian_c: using the vaious wifi stuff on android would be much faster then bluetooth [07:44] but I get an error [07:45] like airdroid or the ssh or samba servers === atrius is now known as atrius_away [07:46] dr_willis, I'm not looking for speed === root is now known as Guest22131 [07:46] stuck_, so you want certain tabs to pop-up in FF ... it's in FF settings [07:47] cfhowlett: BTW, when it cycles to next server to try its the IP that changes, not the port [07:47] cfhowlett: No, I want my current tabs to pop up [07:48] dr_willis, I'm searching a local adn simple connection between two bluetooth devices [07:48] *and [07:50] stuck_, FF preferences Startup When FF starts show my windows and tabs from last time [07:50] i want LibreOffice to break a word over the line without hyphenation. Possible? (There's noone in #libreoffice today) [07:50] Hello, running 12.04, need to know the default permissions on the passwd and shadow files, thanks [07:50] makara, probably. Check LO settings & preferences [07:51] cfhowlett, done. Nothing to report. [07:52] cfhowlett: Already set to that, but how can I restart FF without clicking the little x in the corner? [07:52] since I have multiple FF windows [07:53] stuck_, set preferences to open new TABS not new WINDOWS === ericab is now known as ericab_away [07:54] cfhowlett: I want multiple FF windows, I got 3 of them with multiple tabs within. So how can I restart firefox without restarting my PC? [07:54] you can kill the process and then relaunch stuck [07:54] ff should restore your tabs/windows [07:54] stuck_, you 've got multiple instances of FF running. quick kill is to run a terminal: killall firefox [07:55] is each window an instance? ive never noticed [07:55] I think not acutally [07:56] I seem to only have one firefox process on the work pc [07:56] cfhowlett: only way? OK, brb [07:56] I ran another FF and now have 2 processes [07:57] cfhowlett: BTW, chatzilla finally switched to saying "error downloading" do you still want me to restart FF to try to install it? [07:57] stuck_, I'm inclined to say that so long as you have IRC, even if web based, smile and move on ... [07:58] and get a better irc client... ;-) [07:58] yep time to upgrade to irssi [07:58] cfhowlett: Seems a second try installing chatzilla worked, no restart necessary, I want to use my installed clients anyway, so if you would please help me figure out what is going on here [07:58] dr_willis, weird error. Xchat wouldn't connect but web-based IRC would ... [07:58] bbl [07:59] cfhowlett: restarting FF to finalize chatzilla instal [07:59] hmm odd. [07:59] stuck_, ok [08:00] thiago: Sharing the git index between OS's is asking for trouble. [08:01] I missed the last thing you said [08:02] I have chatzilla installed, now how do I use it? [08:02] stuck_, join freenode network then join #ubuntu [08:04] I meant how, but I figured it out [08:04] Ok, chatzilla works [08:04] Got any better idea about why the regular installed clients aren't working? === rosenzweig_ is now known as Rosenzweig [08:07] DoH! [08:07] Is there an easy way to restart the default touchpad driver on ubuntu? [08:07] It's spazzing out. [08:07] I can't highlight anything, I can't maximize windows with a double click. [08:08] It's acting funky. [08:08] I can't click and drag. [08:08] cfhowlett: Ok, chatzilla works Got any better idea about why the regular installed clients aren't working? [08:08] stuck2, gotta be a setting issue is my theory. Others have suggested you use a different IRC client. Look in software center and see if you find one you like. If same error/behavior comes up, it's either YOUR settings or a connection setting/block/error with your router I would guess [08:09] cfhowlett: I am having trouble with two different IRC clients, xchat, and smuxi, I did mention this before [08:09] cfhowlett: should I install a third? If so what? [08:10] try this first stuck2 [08:10] open a terminal and run 'telnet irc.freenode.com 6667' [08:12] iter, doesn't connect for me ... it's going down a list of ip's now [08:13] you get a response though [08:13] we're seeing if he's firewalled off or what [08:13] iter: "Trying 32.1.6.176..." I assume it will eventually go down the list of ips [08:13] I don't have any firewalls installed [08:14] Still "Trying 32.1.6.176..." [08:14] well you didn't get a response [08:14] so something is preventing that connection === eoss is now known as Guest69401 [08:14] OK, so how do I check what? [08:14] you should see trying xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx [08:14] connected to chat.freenode.net [08:14] iter, same thing here. My FW are defaulted and unconfigured ... [08:15] iter: Saying something is preventing that connection, without giving me a means to find out what, isn't particularly useful [08:16] well, that really makes me want to continue to help you out there stuck! [08:16] iter: I am sorry that offended you somehow, I did not mean to offend or see how it could offend. [08:16] all your other network connectivity works as far as you can tell right? [08:17] iter: well I have had connectivity problem to a specific flash game server [08:17] but only with that one game, but its a real head scratcher why [08:18] who is your isp [08:18] qwest [08:19] Wait, they go by a new name, i forget it === Mike is now known as Guest80045 [08:19] why? [08:20] iter: ? [08:21] wondering if they are blocking outbound irc traffic [08:21] iter: And browser & plugin clients wouldn't be effected by such a block? [08:22] *affect [08:22] depends [08:22] on? [08:23] fyi "telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Network is unreachable" [08:23] try telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl [08:23] that's default port 23 [08:24] hi ppl [08:26] iter: Trying 42.2.8.152... , so no different [08:27] why do you have that IP for towel.blinkenlights.nl [08:27] I get 94.142.241.111 === owen is now known as Guest50867 [08:27] which dns server are you using [08:28] cat /etc/resolv.conf [08:30] any ops in here? [08:31] zalmoxes: let's pretend i am; why? [08:31] iter: What do you mean by cat? [08:32] stuck2: it's a command that can read and merge files [08:32] it will show the contents of that file [08:32] can anyone help me set up ssh so i can access it via my public ip? [08:32] cat /etc/motd [08:32] aeon-ltd: i'm curious about the floodbots. i've been experiencing some difficulties with spam and wanted to know if it's something i could run on my own [08:33] zalmoxes: you can run eggdrop no problem [08:33] it's got plenty of anti-flood options [08:33] ok [08:33] iter: domain domain.actdsltmpsearch domain.actdsltmpnameserver 192.168.0.1nameserver 205.171.3.65 [08:34] let's change your DNS to 4.2.2.2 for now [08:34] How? [08:34] comment out or delete those namserver lines and change one to 4.2.2.2 [08:35] Oblivion1500: install openssh-server, create a dyndns account for your host, then configure portforwarding in your router (if you have one) and connect from WAN to your dnydns-hostname [08:35] iter: How? [08:36] TakeItEZ: can you allow pm's real quick [08:36] Oblivion1500: no [08:36] http://imgur.com/DLQGjQg [08:36] then that [08:37] I copied a file from my usb stick, I want to install a deb file by dpkg -i but it outputs dpkg: unable to access dpkg status area: Read-only file system I cannot do chmo or chmod u+x to the file, it says read-only filed [08:37] how can I install that file? [08:37] Oblivion1500: and i don't watch images on my phones irc-client [08:37] !details | Oblivion1500 [08:37] Oblivion1500: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..." [08:37] http://imgur.com/DLQGjQg is my details [08:38] it has everything you need to know [08:38] iter: I found the file in question, but how do I make it so I can make changes/give it PW permission, and what exactly should I put as a line, just 4.2.2.2? [08:38] angs: you are booted normally or in recovery mode! [08:38] mode? [08:38] hi [08:38] i need to access my server from the public [08:38] TakeItEZ: it's a picture of a notepad with internal ips, and some netgear configuration pages [08:38] dr_willis: I am powered the device normally and loged in as usual [08:39] and a command prompt with information [08:39] stuck2: 'sudo sed -i 's/192.168.0.1/4.2.2.2/g' [08:39] stuck2: sudo sed -i 's/192.168.0.1/4.2.2.2/g' /etc/resolv.conf [08:39] theres just too much information that your going to need for me to just say it here [08:39] angs: so the cmmand 'touch testfile' works? [08:39] sorry, left the filename off there [08:40] dr_willis, touch: cannot touch `testfile': Read-only file system [08:40] i have been working on this for days and gathered a lot of information i just cant seem to figure it out... [08:40] does it mean I am on recovery mode? [08:40] iter: OK done, now try xchat? [08:40] is it possible to figure out why I am there [08:41] now try nslookup towel.blinkenlights.nl [08:41] angs: i dont know how you booted the system.. you tell us [08:41] Oblivion1500: change the port to some high port, send 5022 to 22 -- your ISP might block it [08:42] for security reasons too [08:42] dr_willis: it is an embedded board, I have not define the ubot, I just used the pre-defined ones. [08:43] security by obscurity. changing ssh-port reduces logs but won't really increase scurity [08:43] angs: well its mounted read only for sme reason. you can use the remount option of mount. or just try rebooting [08:43] iter: It told me "Non-authoritative answer: Name: towel.blinkenlights.nl Address: 94.142.241.111 [08:43] TakeItEZ: ok im running ubuntu server LTS, im trying to connect to ssh via public ip, i get econnrefused and all the information that is going to be needed lies here http://i.imgur.com/DLQGjQg.png [08:43] stuck2: ok much better [08:43] i will change when i get it working but for now this will work [08:43] stuck2: now try telnet irc.freenode.com 6667 [08:44] and i taked to my isp and port 22 is not blocked [08:44] talked* [08:44] Oblivion1500: you try to connect your external IP from inside LAN? has your router nat-loopback enabled? [08:44] did you restart your router since you enabled port forwarding? [08:45] no im accessing from my phone [08:45] hi, is there a way to make grub reindex its list? [08:45] for testing [08:45] like it does after upgrading the OS [08:45] witch is not on my network [08:45] (looking for new partitions and OS'es) [08:46] Oblivion1500: is that one of these amazon ec2...? [08:46] arris modem provided by isp and netgear n600 router [08:47] Oblivion1500: why do you have two subnets? why not just have router as 192.168.0.1 and server as 192.168.0.100 [08:47] i have a modem and a router [08:47] looks like he is daisy chaining [08:47] is it a DSL modem? [08:47] cable [08:47] belgianguy, sudo update-grub [08:48] were talking brighthouse lightning [08:48] iter: Looking up your hostname... Checking Ident Found your hostname No Ident response ERROR :Closing Link: 127.0.0.1 (Connection timed out) [08:48] stuck2: very good, now try xchat or whatever you prefer [08:48] what IP is your router assigned? [08:48] cfhowlett: d'oh, thanks :) [08:48] belgianguy, no worries big guy [08:49] and i dont want to bridge my modem because i need the wireless on the modem to be working [08:49] that information is in the picture [08:49] i dont think you're going to get SSH working then [08:49] Oblivion1500: I would venture to guess your router has no idea how to get to 192.168.1.x net [08:50] hello hello [08:50] aeon-ltd, echo [08:50] kepler why do you say that? [08:50] you're operating on two different subnets [08:51] 192.168.0.0/24 can't talk to 192.168.1.0/24 (unless you do some static routing or something in your router) [08:51] iter: So what was the problem in the end? [08:51] well what if i hardwire my server to my modem with a switch? [08:51] do you have two wireless access points? [08:51] stuck2: so xchat is working now? [08:51] How to define udev rule to run a sh script when a usb is plugged in? [08:51] static routing, like port forwarding? [08:51] you can do that, if your server is getting an IP in the 192.168.0.0/24 block [08:51] dr_willis, I had an issue with /etc/fstab the kernel and rootfs are on an sd card. and /etc/fstab uses http://paste.ubuntu.com/1705196/ I had fschk error (error code ), then someone told me to replace "/dev/sda2" with "/" on /etc/fstab ... but when I boot the device with a usb device plugged, it was not able to mount mmcblkp2 (where the rootfs installed). do you know how I should edit that file? [08:52] no, i dont know if your modem would support static routes [08:52] hi... im having problems with my laptop's network driver. my laptop is lenovo G480. im using ubuntu 12.04. i have already followed this: http://pastebin.com/L8QhmJRn but still im facing problems, and i cant connect using cable. and sometimes my laptop hangs which based on logs i guess is caused by netwwork. [08:52] * jdesx hey i reinstalled ubuntu...i have ubuntu 12.10..where can i find a list of good Repos to install? [08:52] i have 3 2 comming from the router because the 5gz [08:52] jdesx, software center [08:53] where do i find the repos tho? [08:53] google? [08:53] easiest is to do one gateway total. you can use your n600 as an AP/switch [08:53] the actual URLS to input === odifis is now known as oDiafanos [08:53] turn off DHCP in the n600, and plug the modem into a non-wan port [08:53] !ppa|jdesx, you seem to be talking about NON-standard repos AKA. Good luck with that. [08:53] jdesx, you seem to be talking about NON-standard repos AKA. Good luck with that.: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge [08:54] set the n600's IP to something like 192.168.0.254, so you can log in if you need to [08:54] then set your server IP to whatever, as long as it is 192.168.0.x [08:55] iter: yes [08:55] you'll retain all wireless features, but you won't be daisy chaining routers. you'll just let the modem be the DHCP server/default gateway [08:55] everytime I update and upgrade there's some Flash update. How can I turn off updates for Flash, or at least make them only update occasionally? [08:55] stuck2: you are welcome [08:56] !cookie|iter, [08:56] iter,: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie! [08:56] can someone help me install aircrack? i need to get into my router and test security [08:56] !aircrack|jdesx, nope. not supported here. [08:56] :) :) test your routers sercurity? hahaha [08:56] iter: I planned to say TY btw, but I still had one last question, what was the problem? [08:56] Yes [08:56] oh cmon just check if its WPA2, and WPS disabled you're safe [08:56] jdesx, see aircrack support for support [08:56] my neighbor said they hacked my network [08:57] stuck2, your dns was messed up [08:57] jdesx, it is not supported here. [08:57] jdesx: create a new WPA2 passphrase, and disable WPS..it's crutial to disable WPS..all new routers have it [08:57] jdesx: change wpa-passphrase then and be happy [08:57] iter: Is that why you asked what ISP I had? To find out the right DNS relay IP or something? [08:58] i dont know my password lol [08:58] jdesx: then ask your neighbour [08:58] stuck2: nope I wanted to know if your ISP was blocking outbound traffic to port 6667 [08:58] jdesx: Put a fork in you, your done :p [08:58] TakeItEZ, LOL! [08:58] jdesx, nice try. [08:59] iter: why replace my internal IP with this 4.2.2.2 number in that file? [08:59] no, lol im actually serious [09:00] hard reset wont change pw [09:00] jdesx, and seriously aircrack, backtrack and other such are - not-supported-here. [09:00] dude it will reset to a default [09:00] and then google for a default password [09:00] stuck2: because you got some wack ass IP result for towel.blinkenlights.nl [09:00] iter: I don't follow, but in the end its working now, TY! === jacky is now known as Guest11821 === mpmc|Away is now known as mpmc [09:05] * bbiao hello [09:05] I created a partition and formated it, but how come it isn't letting me put files in it? [09:06] Used gparted partition editor === iuuso_ is now known as iuuso [09:06] Hello. === ubuntu is now known as Guest89539 [09:06] truepurple: is it mounted? [09:06] aeon-ltd, It says it is [09:06] Say, I have version 1.1 of something [09:06] And along came 1.2 and one day later 1.3 [09:07] aeon-ltd, there is a unmount option === Guest89539 is now known as angs [09:07] What happens if I update directly to 1.3? [09:07] Do I need to update to 1.2 first? [09:08] apt-get resolves this kind of update business, right? [09:08] does [09:08] hdmi work on ubuntu livecd ? [09:09] amd/ati gfx laptop [09:09] give it a try and find out most probably [09:09] aeon-ltd, So any idea then? [09:11] truepurple: what filesystem? use chown/chmod to adjust permissions [09:11] !permissions | truepurple [09:11] truepurple: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions [09:12] ext 4 [09:12] but I tried several others too [09:12] truepurple: does the new partition only hold your users data or wht do you want to use it for? [09:13] It doesn't hold anything, its for storage [09:13] well once I can put something in it [09:13] truepurple: for only one user ? [09:13] Can I change my username in Ubuntu? [09:13] yes [09:13] truepurple: sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /mountpoint replace mountpoint by the real mountpiont [09:13] point* [09:14] Is that last part with replace part fo the command? [09:14] truepurple: no a comment [09:15] my 10,1 macbook does not work with the logitech unify thing. I have to unplug it and plug it back in. I read about the logitech bug, when I write modprobe -r hid_logitech_dj modprobe hid_logitech_dj  it does nothing and ontop of that is disables my trackpad... It is a long shot but anyone else know what I can do [09:15] TakeItEZ, Even if that works, isn't there a way to do it in gparted or other less complicated methods? [09:15] truepurple: i don't know [09:15] replace user with my username? [09:16] Or literally USER? [09:16] no [09:16] $USER [09:16] chown: cannot access `/mountpoint': No such file or directory [09:16] truepurple: its a var holding your username [09:16] truepurple: ... where is the new partition mounted? [09:17] What do you mean, where? [09:18] truepurple:what mountpoint, what directory? then: sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /ThatDirectory [09:18] the thing at the beginning in gparted? [09:18] dev/sda3? [09:18] truepurple: leafe gparted, run "mount|grep sda3" if sda3 is the new partition [09:18] leave [09:19] Is it safe to use DD to make a backup of / while mounted, or should I use a livecd to do that? [09:19] Korbit: better to use a live-cd [09:19] @TakeItEZ That's what I though. Thanks [09:20] TakeItEZ, /dev/sda3 on /media/32610eef-29fb-44ef-9078-c91a2e1d20dc type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks) [09:20] truepurple:sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /media/32610eef-29fb-44ef-9078-c91a2e1d20dc [09:21] TakeItEZ, Ok, I can put files in it now. But the thing is, right now I am just trying to test a few things, I need a less complicated method of making these partitions work === silver is now known as Guest27252 [09:23] Hey ! [09:24] So, can you help please? [09:24] * jdesx Hey I just installed ubuntu 12.10 and everything finally works with it...what are some cool programs to download? [09:26] TakeItEZ, ? [09:29] Can anyone help me with how to make a partition open to use from the start, or at least with a few easy measures, rather then needing complicated commands? [09:30] truepurple: you add an entry if the fstab to mount it.. yiu mean? [09:30] or yoy just want it open in rhe file manager? [09:31] dr_willis, I am not sure what you mean. But when I make a partition with gparted, format it and mount it, I can't put files in it, TakeItEZ gave me a set of long commands that allowed me to use it, but I am experimenting with partitions and need something simpler to make them accessible [09:32] truepurple: what filestatem did you use? [09:32] truepurple: it just one command you have to issue [09:32] dr_willis, I was told to type "mount|grep sda3" then "sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /media/32610eef-29fb-44ef-9078-c91a2e1d20dc" [09:33] dr_willis, that long string in the second command was from the results of the first [09:33] truepurple: ask the gparted dev to integrate userhandling in their tool [09:33] truepurple: you mount it somewhere. then chown it to be owned by your user [09:34] truepurple: so is it mounted now? === gvim is now known as Guest55479 [09:34] dr_willis, filestatem, you mean system? And yes, it is mounted [09:34] mounted where [09:34] dr_willis, I do not know [09:34] main area I guess? [09:34] use the mount command and look... [09:35] truepurple:the actual mountpoint is /media/32610eef-29fb-44ef-9078-c91a2e1d20dc [09:35] there [09:35] that absurdly long string [09:35] I guess [09:35] truepurple: next time give a label to the partition you create [09:35] truepurple: without, it uses the UUID, hard to recall [09:35] have gparted give it a label.. and it will use that for a name..... [09:36] instead of the uuid# [09:37] you chown the mountpoint to be owned by yur user.. what is your user name yu want to access it? [09:37] So I make, format, and mount the partition, then sudo chown -R $USER:$USER