[00:00] <surbs> SourceSlayer, ls
[00:00] <surbs> SourceSlayer, nvm read that wrong
[00:00] <SourceSlayer> I mean a list of python directories.
[00:00] <SourceSlayer> ok
[00:01] <enigmuriatic> i'm not trying to be presumptuous in asking this because i'm sure it's hard, but are the new generation macbook multitouches going to be added to Ubuntu soon? that's the only reason that i don't use it exclusively
[00:01] <KingPixel> SourceSlayer, wanna print a script? cat it
[00:02] <surbs> SourceSlayer, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/120656/directory-listing-in-python
[00:02] <Myrtti> enigmuriatic: it's more about the kernel developers adding support for it - I don't know how quickly they work but some of them seem to buy new macbooks just to get them working. It's not instantaneous though
[00:02] <magn3ts> 13.04 works perfectly out of the box on my Macbook Air 2012
[00:03] <SourceSlayer> surbs: What I'm looking for is the $PYTHONPATH variable which is supposed to show where the directories for python modules are.
[00:03] <SourceSlayer> I would like to manipulate that variable.
[00:03] <Ironsight> Anyone have a good ppa for java?
[00:04] <enigmuriatic> magn3ts, does it work with four-finger swipe etc.?
[00:05] <cinvoke> hello. i cant get upstart to load /etc/init/uwsgi.conf.  help please.
[00:06] <ecen> Hello people! I recently installed Ubuntu 12.10 (first time Linux) through the windows installer on this laptop of mine. Bad thing is, Ubuntu is running much slower than native win7 64-bit, and I'm getting lots of app freezes and crashes. Any ideas on what I could do to boost performance/prevent crashes? Any noob mistakes I am likely to have done?
[00:07] <magn3ts> enigmuriatic: well, they're not mapped. You can map swipes to things if you want sure.
[00:07] <magn3ts> The unity multitouch handler is stupid though, I don't use it.
[00:09] <Praxi> I'm setting up an zmanda server, I'm going to be moving the backups off to a USB drive for off site storage.  Any recomendations for file systems that work between ubuntu, mac, & windows that can handle a 3TB drive?  I've been using exfat for mac/windows, but not sure how well that will play with ubuntu.
[00:10] <enigmuriatic> magn3ts, does that mean you don't have mutlitouch?
[00:11] <histo> Praxi: With ext3 you'd have to install ext3 support into windows. With ntfs you need to installntfs support into linux so choice is yours. Either way one of htem needs to be extended.
[00:11] <ment0s> Hello
[00:12] <histo> Praxi: ubuntu will handle ntfs out of the box though I believe now. So I guess you would go with that.
[00:12] <Praxi> thanks histo assumed as much.  Have you ever played with exfat on linux?
[00:12] <Vivekananda>  How do I make a back up of my /home to another location. using cp without sudo skips files. Using with sudo changes permissions of some of the copied folders to root ( cannot open file). If I do chmod then All files will ahve permissions removed including some which should have it !!
[00:12] <histo> Praxi: No
[00:13] <Praxi> I see some ppa's for a fuse version of it, just fishing for thoughts on it
[00:13] <ment0s> I have a weird problem.., I am running ubuntu 12.04 and I cannot login to ebay :O I've tried chrome,firefox and midori and its the same on all of them , could anyone help ? ive tried to lookup google but it seems to be only me having this problme
[00:13] <histo> Vivekananda: What other location are you trying to copy to?
[00:13] <Praxi> exfat works on latest windows & mac, so it seems the easiest to deal with
[00:13] <histo> Praxi: What is exfat?
[00:13] <Praxi> MS recognizing the need for an extended fat
[00:13] <Praxi> cover big flash drives and the like
[00:14] <histo> Vivekananda: rsync -av /home/Vivekanand /path/to/other/location
[00:14] <Vivekananda> it is an external hard drive. What should I use so all files are copied with proper permissions
[00:14] <angs> I have my files on ~/x/my_dir , but I want to directory as ~/my_dir how can I do it?
[00:14] <ment0s> exfat = fat64
[00:14] <Praxi> histo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExFAT
[00:14] <histo> Praxi: I wouldn't trust it for backups
[00:14] <Vivekananda> histo: why would sudo cp -R /home /otherloction/ break or change permissions for folders ?
[00:15] <CaTeR> Z
[00:15] <CaTeR> Z
[00:15] <Praxi> roger histo.  do the ext3 work across ubuntu & mac?  if I was forced to choose between 2, those would be my first choice
[00:16] <Praxi> ahh nm that was an easy enough google hehe
[00:17] <tzero> what's that system called that gets called by dpkg-reconfigure that prompts you to replace or keep an existing changed configuration file?
[00:17] <tzero> I can't think of the actual binary
[00:17] <Vivekananda> histo: I did the sudo cp and I understood tha with sudo nothing can go wrong now I see that the created copy says 1,018 items, totalling 420.7 MB(some contents unreadable) and the parent folder
[00:17] <Vivekananda> 4,772 items, totalling 397.2 MB
[00:18] <Vivekananda> I am thoroughly confused of what is happenning
[00:20] <Vivekananda> histo: any clues ?
[00:20] <tzero> never mind, debconf
[00:21] <Bray90820> can someone help me every time i plug or unplug the charger from my dell insperon duo i get a kernel panic
[00:21] <Bray90820> itt does work if i close the cover first
[00:21] <Bray90820> or disable acpi
[00:23] <dr_willis> Bray90820:   you hvent fouind any bug reports on that issue?
[00:23] <Bray90820> people have reported the bug all over the place
[00:23] <histo> Vivekananda: Becuaseit's copying the files as root and not their permissions
[00:23] <Bray90820> but no one has a fix
[00:23] <histo> Vivekananda: Why are you using sudo?
[00:23] <TheAsp> Hey guys, I'm having some problems with mountall in 12.10 with nfs mounts in /etc/fstab.  I have _netdev as an option, but it still tries to mount it before the interfaces are up.  Any suggestions?
[00:24] <Bray90820> sorry if i am asking to many times
[00:24] <histo> Vivekananda: Are you copying to a fat drive?
[00:24] <Bray90820> i just really want this bug worked out
[00:24] <dr_willis> Bray90820:  i imagine its a kernel bug. so normal people are not going to be having any fix.  have you tested this in 13.04 yet?
[00:24] <histo> Bray90820: I would check in other kernels try a newer one try an older one. Or even try the latest from kernel.org
[00:24] <Vivekananda> histo: no it is an ext3 drive. I would like to know if there are files on the /home which require root permissions to open. If this is not the case then a simple cp source/ dest/ should work or a cut and paste
[00:25] <Vivekananda> shouldnt it ?
[00:25] <histo> !kernel | Bray90820
[00:25] <histo> Vivekananda: Yes
[00:25] <Vivekananda> does copying the files as root change the permissions on the files too ??
[00:25] <dr_willis> Vivekananda:  backing up the .gvfs directory is going to have issues.. since its a special directory
[00:26] <dr_willis> Vivekananda:  cp has options to keep the oroginal peremissions/ownership
[00:26] <Bray90820> there is a thread about the netbook on the ubuntu forums
[00:26] <histo> Vivekananda: Is there a reason you want to use cp?
[00:26] <Vivekananda> dr_willis:  Yes it is giving me the errors but everyone I was trying to do a simple copy all and paste. I did not hope to spend 2 hours on this
[00:26] <PushReset> Having troubles with getting ubuntu to update, using the latest version..anyone care to help =X
[00:27] <Bray90820> ubottu it seems to work in other ubuntu based distros such as JollyOS
[00:27] <dr_willis> Vivekananda:  you dont try to backup .gvfs and use the proper options to cp or use rsync to backup - would be the normal way
[00:27] <histo> Vivekananda: root takes ownership of the files when you cp the way you are doing it.
[00:27] <Vivekananda> histo: no reason. I was just using the simplest command I know to cp and paste. Now I find that even if I do a sudo the source and dest have different no of files with different sizes and what not
[00:27] <Bray90820> ubottu
[00:28] <ment0s> Vivekananda: why dont you simply chown and chmod after copying ?
[00:28] <dr_willis> Bray90820:  ubottu  is just a bot/scripted client
[00:28] <Bray90820> oh nevermind then
[00:28] <Bray90820> histo it seems to work in other ubuntu based distos such as Jolly OS
[00:29] <dr_willis> Bray90820:  you mean JoliOS
[00:29] <Vivekananda> ment0s: yes I can do that but that is not the problem . The first and foremost problem is that I believed that no matter the permissions and the problems with .gfvs folder the other folders will be copied to the destination and I should see the same size with same number of files with sudo
[00:29] <Vivekananda> this is not happenning
[00:29] <Bray90820> yes
[00:29] <Bray90820> sorry for the spelling
[00:29] <histo> Vivekananda: rsync -ax /home/vivek /other/location    will copy the files you want and not try and copy .gvfs
[00:29] <histo> Vivekananda: you can add --progress   if you want in there also you can see it go along it's merry way
[00:30] <Vivekananda> histo: I get your point. rsync is great. My question is why does sudo cp not give me two identical folders except for the .gvfs
[00:30] <histo> Vivekananda: Are you taking into account that .gvfs isn't there?
[00:30] <dr_willis> Bray90820:  that is an interesting fact.. since im not sure what kernel JoliOs is curently using.. i ddient even think it was still being developed
[00:31] <dr_willis> Vivekananda:  identical as in same owner/permissions? or whats differnt?
[00:33] <Vivekananda> dr_willis: Identical meaning same number of files and same size of parent and child folder ( excluding .gvfs of course)
[00:33] <Bray90820> dr_willis here is a bunch of into on the jolios kernel https://github.com/jolicloud/jolicloud-robby-kernel
[00:33] <Vivekananda> dr_willis: If I use sudo and cp will that copy the hidden , .files also ? I hope it should
[00:34] <histo> Vivekananda: diff /home/vivek /path/you/copied/to
[00:34] <histo> see the difference
[00:34] <Vivekananda> lol histo; destination says 400 mbs source is 3 gbs
[00:34] <Vivekananda> lol
[00:34] <dr_willis> Vivekananda: cp needs an option to copy hidden files.
[00:34] <Vivekananda> my head is spinning now
[00:35] <Bray90820> would  there be any way to port the JolliOS kernel back to ubuntu
[00:35] <Salastil> is there a way to turn off chat join/leave messages in IRC over Empathy
[00:35] <threex5> I need to put win7 back on my ubuntu machine. I was hoping for single boot but my DAW is sucking me back into dual boot
[00:35] <ment0s> Vivekananda: mbs ? gbs ?? you mean mb and gb right
[00:35] <Salastil> or set channels as persistent so I can minimize to tray
[00:35] <Vivekananda> dr_willis:  so  you mean if I do sudo cp -R source/ dest/ it will still need arguments before copying everything ?
[00:35] <Vivekananda> yes
[00:35] <Vivekananda> ment0s:
[00:35] <ment0s> just copy it with cp -rp again
[00:35] <Vivekananda> yes
[00:36] <threex5> somehow my /home partition ended up as a logical partition and not a primary one. I notice no performance problem but I need to cut this partition in half to get win7 back
[00:36] <Vivekananda> I am going to do it again
[00:36] <Vivekananda> tried grsyn now
[00:36] <threex5> does it matter if my windows7 partition is logical? maybe this is a stupid question
[00:36] <Vivekananda> if this doesnot work I will just take a disk partition image and store it
[00:36] <histo> threex5: windows will not be happy on a logical
[00:36] <ment0s> Vivekananda: I have joined in the middle of convo, could you quick exmplain what kind of files are you compying ? does have it anything to do with google drive?
[00:37] <histo> threex5: You can double check in #windows also windows will blow out grub when it installs.
[00:37] <histo> ment0s: He's trying to cp his home with sudo for some reason.
[00:37] <Vivekananda> ment0s: I have /home as a separate partition and I have /media/A/ As my external ext3 partitioned hard drive
[00:38] <histo> Vivekananda: Why are you using sudo?
[00:39] <Vivekananda> I am trying to create a Complete copy of /home and later restore it and I tried cp then found that it leaves some files ( permission and hidden issues) so I figured I can deal with permisisons later but sudo cp -R should copy EVerything as sudo is the god command
[00:39] <ment0s> thats a good question in first place
[00:39] <ment0s> so if /home is separate partiton then use dd to file and then restore it with dd also
[00:39] <histo> Vivekananda: Are there multiple users in /home  ?
[00:40] <Vivekananda> no it is a simple laptop one user , me only
[00:40] <dr_willis> people  never seem to get sudo.. :-D
[00:40] <histo> Vivekananda: you user should be able to copy his /home/username folder without issues what files did you find that it leaves?
[00:40] <threex5> histo, I can live with that as long as it gives me a similar boot loader
[00:41] <threex5> thanks for the advice about the logical partition. I'll make sure it's primary
[00:41] <ment0s> dd if=/dev/(home partiton) of=/media/A/home.img
[00:41] <histo> threex5: No you can't boot linux after windows blows out your boot loader. You'll have to reinstall grub. It's alwasy best to install windows first due to this issue with their installer
[00:41] <Vivekananda> histo I will have to run that again to find out . I simply wanted to cut /home and paste it on /media/A/ ie either mv or copy
[00:41] <dr_willis> rsync would be a beter way i belive
[00:41] <Vivekananda> it is good that I did not mv or would have been a total mess now
[00:41] <threex5> histo, does the ubuntu live disk give you the option to recreate grub?
[00:42] <histo> Vivekananda: Don't copy /home  copy /home/username
[00:42] <ment0s> Vivekananda: Use dd, it will copy permissions and every hidden file
[00:42] <nonchalanto> I saw a few of the mark shuttleworth's recent videos and a few times how you can transparently use windows apps (like a thin client) on the desktop. daes anyone know how?
[00:42] <Vivekananda> ment0s: I heard that dd was a scary command and not to be used unless required necessarily
[00:42] <Vivekananda> no ?
[00:43] <Lynxx> whats sudo?
[00:43] <histo> Vivekananda: It would allow you to backup the entire partition that /home is on.
[00:43] <Vivekananda> I dont want to store the alignment and all just the files for back up
[00:43] <Bray90820> yes or bo would this flag disable acpi
[00:43] <histo> !sudo | Lynxx
[00:43] <Bray90820> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=SmuqUmET
[00:43] <nonchalanto> Lynxx: ? check the man page or google
[00:43] <Vivekananda> histo: yes i know but I was content with just folder backup without going for the overkill.
[00:43] <MrKeuner> hello, playing with orca... how can I perform key combination kp_Add
[00:43] <histo> Vivekananda: I still want to know what files where left?
[00:43] <Lynxx> how come windows update doesnt work on ubuntu
[00:44] <Praxi> ...
[00:44] <nonchalanto> Lynxx: good question
[00:44] <Vivekananda> histo: yes I will be glad to tell you but right now I ran sudo rsync :(  I am waiting for it to finish and then try the regular copy and then tell you what is missing :(
[00:44] <Lynxx> yes because im trying to update and it doesnt let me
[00:44] <histo> Vivekananda: STOP USING SUDO you don't need it
[00:44] <histo> jejsus
[00:45] <Vivekananda> histo: :) sure , right after I see this one through. Btw does the /home folder contain files normally, that require root permissions to open?
[00:45] <g16> lol, he's scared of dd and not of sudo
[00:46] <nonchalanto> lol
[00:46] <MrKeuner> hello, playing with orca... how can I perform key combination KP_Add
[00:46] <histo> Vivekananda: no
[00:47] <Vivekananda> g16: :) Yes I know . But I did not want to use it . I however know only two ways of copying over files that say ( copy permission denied) either chmod / chown it to myself or become root so everything can be copied ? do you find this completely illogical ?
[00:47] <MrKeuner> aaaah KP must be keypad so keypad plus
[00:47] <histo> Vivekananda: Although yours probably does with your missuse of sudo i'm sure root owns several files in /home for some odd reason.
[00:47] <MrKeuner> unfortunately this is a laptop... :(
[00:48] <Vivekananda> histo: no harm done . I will just delete the child and copy over again with the ways you suggested. I am just testing my understanding of sudo in a harmless manner is all
[00:48] <Vivekananda> histo: in the event that some files do have root permissions and I want to create a full back up of the /home. how do I copy those files over ??
[00:49] <ment0s> chown and chmod everything inside /home/yourusername with your permissions from  root
[00:49] <Vivekananda> and without sudo as you mentioned above what else do I do to copy ?? will dd do it ?
[00:49] <awolfey1> I have  new problem, where I can no longer access new localhost sites (apache) I try to access http://mysite and am redirected to http://www.mysite.com  This is only true for the most recent site I've added. Previous sites still load the correct local site.
[00:50] <Vivekananda> ment0s_: but histo mentioned that some folder are by default under sudo in the /home too. In that case if I do what you say then it will ruin those folders wont it ?
[00:50] <awolfey1> I've tried completely renaming the site and flushing local dns.
[00:51] <awolfey1> The same thing happens on chrome and firefox
[00:52] <SixtyFold> what CLI command do i use to remove a program and all it's dependencies?
[00:53] <g16> SixtyFold: apt-get remove
[00:53] <SixtyFold> hrmm
[00:53] <SixtyFold> i did that
[00:53] <Vivekananda> ment0s_: Also which lightweight ubuntu should I download to install on the computer for 12.04 and also to create a live usb drive for it first ?
[00:53] <SixtyFold> it doesnt seem to remove as much as it installed
[00:54] <g16> SixtyFold: elaborate? what did you expect?
[00:54] <awolfey1> try apt-get autoremove to remove unneeded dependencies
[00:54] <SixtyFold> okay
[00:54] <threex5> are there any ways yet to get windows to read/write to ext4?
[00:55]  * awolfey1 facepalm
[00:56] <threex5> awolfey1 was that directed at me?
[00:56] <awolfey1> threex5: no, at me
[00:56] <threex5> heh ok
[00:58] <Vivekananda> histo: executing the simple cp -R command now for home to external media
[00:58] <Vivekananda> without the sudo
[00:59] <dr_willis> hmm  -R does get hidden files? I dont recall
[01:00] <Vivekananda> dr_willis: -R is only recursive
[01:00] <Vivekananda> should I try with hidden files ?
[01:01] <dr_willis> you do want your settings?
[01:02] <newubuntu12> I just installed Ubuntu 12.04.2 and I want to know how to change it to Gnome 2, I installed Gnome-session-fallback but it installed Gnome3
[01:02] <dr_willis> newubuntu12: fallback is a feature of gnome3
[01:02] <newubuntu12> is there a way to install Gnome 2 instead of 3 to get the old desktop manager?
[01:02] <dr_willis> its a gnome2 look alike
[01:03] <newubuntu12> well I have a top panel, can I remove the sidebar?
[01:03] <newubuntu12> it still looks like unity
[01:03] <threex5> ok, let me rephrase that then. If you have dual boot, with a linux OS, a windows OS and a data partition, what filesystem should i use? I want the data partition to mount as /home when on linus
[01:04] <threex5> linux
[01:04] <dr_willis> sounds like you dident select the right sessii
[01:04] <dr_willis> sessiin at the login screen
[01:04] <ment0s_> newubuntu12: you should install gnome shell and then choose session to failback
[01:04] <Vivekananda> dr_willis: I to get back this home directory as it is now everything intact after I repartition
[01:05] <dr_willis> threex5:  use ext2/3/4 for linux home mormallt
[01:05] <dr_willis> normally
[01:05] <Nach0z> mostly 4
[01:05] <Nach0z> cuz 4.
[01:05] <g16> threex: I'd rather have Linx own the /home and have a separate data partition mounted under that
[01:05] <threex5> thanks, dr_willis. I don't know of any tools that allow you to write to ext4 from windows, though
[01:05] <dr_willis> Vivekananda: so yiu need  the .*  files
[01:05] <g16> As for the fs, you can choose  FAT if you do not need symlinks, ACLs, and such.
[01:05] <Vivekananda> ment0s_: dr_willis : which version ofubuntu should I download for lightweight but can do everything for 12.04 ? L ubuntu or x ubuntu or ??
[01:06] <g16> NTFS is an alternative.
[01:06] <Vivekananda> dr_willis: yep I do
[01:06] <threex5> EXT2 IFS supposedly writes to ext3 but it doesn't say on their website that it does
[01:06] <dr_willis> threex5:  I wouldn't trust any of those tools
[01:06] <ment0s_> Vivekananda: crunchbang :D
[01:06] <Vivekananda> and all other files too . ( If I can get all files ie )
[01:06] <bdmeyersc> I'm trying to see what file is being denied access to. I no var/log/messages, and security in Ubuntu, I Don 'the see anything in syslog where do I find this in Ubuntu?
[01:06] <dem0nk> Vivekananda, Lubuntu
[01:06] <dem0nk> :)
[01:07] <dr_willis> ! lubuntu
[01:07] <dem0nk> Lightweight... simple... and much faster than any *ubuntu
[01:07] <Vivekananda> dem0n: ok I am downloading it now
[01:07] <robin0800> threex5ntfs is best for windows and linux can read ntfs
[01:07] <ment0s_> Vivekananda: xubuntu kubuntu bubuntu or whatever *buntu is still the same ubuntu just with different desktop enviroment.
[01:07] <threex5> dr_willis, then what do people do when they want to share their data across OSes?
[01:08] <dr_willis> threex5:  linux can read/write  ntfs
[01:08] <dem0nk> true... there is crunchbag, dirtbag and a thousand distros... but... ubuntu sure is the most reliable... and sensible distro :)
[01:08] <ment0s_> so If you have ubuntu right now, then install lxde and you have lubuntu or whatever its called and its the same lightweith as the other one
[01:08] <threex5> right but my /home partition shouldn't be ntfs
[01:08] <dr_willis> yu DONT use ntfs for home
[01:08] <Vivekananda> ment0s_: yep I got that but I am not very familiar will all these and have used gnome mostly. I am not sure how different the usage for these would be as compared to gnome eg do I get multiple desktops or could I get compiz or similar effects if I wanted to ?
[01:08] <dr_willis> it wont work
[01:08] <dem0nk> no offense to other linux distros... but it's a fact.
[01:08] <threex5> ok but home is where I keep my files
[01:09] <dr_willis> you can keep the files on a mtfs if you wanted
[01:09] <dr_willis> but not all of /home
[01:09] <dem0nk> mtfs :  mother of tyranny file system :)
[01:09] <ment0s_> Vivekananda: damm simple :) its just gui. and this is power of linux. if you dont like file manager which is included to xubuntu then you have ability to install standard one etc. I currently upgrading to 13.04 but running openbox  and its damm lightweith
[01:11] <ment0s_> Vivekananda:  so in my opinion just stay with ubuntu and possibly install lxde and you are sorted.
[01:11] <Vivekananda> ment0s_: yep so I am going to download lubuntu 12.04 as .iso and create a bootable usb with it . Then will use it to install ubuntu later on the system If I choose to format.
[01:12] <ethanh> could some one help me installing drivers for a usb ethernet adapter?
[01:12] <Vivekananda> I am on lucid now and it is dying that is why I had to move on. Also I have a pretty oldie laptop. Not even sure if the newer systems would work on it esp graphics and all. If it does not then I will have nothing left:(
[01:12] <dem0nk> dr_willis, dude you're the same dr_willis from few years back right? are you employed by canonical for IRC support . :)
[01:13] <dem0nk> can't recall a single time I've been here and not seen you...
[01:13] <threex5> ok i think I know what i'll do. I'll get rid of the /home partition and just have home on the root. dr_willis, can I just remove the line in fstab that mounts /home in a different directory and just make sure my home folder is in the root directory?
[01:13] <threex5> or is it more complicated to remove home
[01:13] <ment0s_> Vivekananda: linux is running on raspberry pi very smoothly .. dont worry about your old laptop. Linux will possibly run on pretty much everyting what have CPU and RAM
[01:14] <ment0s_> *smoothly   ( with proper setup)
[01:14] <Vivekananda> yes that I know kind of and like too . The only problem has been graphics card drivers compatibility
[01:14] <dem0nk> threex5, you could mount home... and your ntfs... then... move the folders in home... to your ntfs.... and create symbolic links on your home folder...
[01:14] <ment0s_> Vivekananda: what laptop is this
[01:15] <ethanh> ???
[01:15] <threex5> dem0nk, that's what i plan to do
[01:15] <threex5> but for now, I need to move the files that are in /home
[01:15] <threex5> oh, my idea is a little different than yours
[01:15] <dem0nk> three18ti, moving the home totally is not a good idea... as you can see.. there are lots of program files on it... hidden files... starting with dots...
[01:16] <threex5> it's basically the same, but there's no /home partition
[01:16] <threex5> just root or /
[01:16] <Vivekananda> ment0s_: One thing, suppose I have lubuntu or Xubuntu,  can I install libre office on it ? It has a different word processor by default but I want something a little better like libre office for my college /work
[01:16] <dem0nk> threex5, you will loose file permissions
[01:16] <threex5> but the home folder in the root partition has symbolic links
[01:16] <dem0nk> if you use ntfs
[01:16] <ment0s_> Vivekananda: yes. you can install anything you want.
[01:16] <Vivekananda> the laptop is inspiron 600m a centrino dual core
[01:16] <dr_willis> just mount the ntfs to be like /home/yourusername/SharedDisk
[01:16] <ment0s_> Vivekananda: you can use KDE programs in gnome and vice versa etc.
[01:17] <Vivekananda> 1.6 ghz max
[01:17] <Vivekananda> ok got it
[01:18] <Vivekananda> dr_willis: did you tell me what to use for copying the hidden files. histo asked me to tell him what a normal cp leaves behind and I would like to try it
[01:18] <dr_willis> Vivekananda:  cp has some extra options you need
[01:18] <ment0s_> Vivekananda: this is great laptop for linux, most of network technicians using it. dont think there should be big problem with your graphics
[01:18] <threex5> alright i'll give it a shot. thanks for the help.
[01:19] <dr_willis> Vivekananda:  ianything thats hidden .* would not get copied without the extra options
[01:19] <Vivekananda> ment0s_: is it. nice to know . It lags sometimes though I dont know why although I once cleaned it up by opening it and removed the heatsync
[01:20] <Vivekananda> but did not put the gel before resealing and that might be the isssue but it does not get very hot or loud. my hard drive and ram are also failing slowly
[01:20] <ment0s_> dr_willis: if he is copying /home/user/ then it should copy hidden files :| ?
[01:20] <Sushi|Laptop> Okay, so /boot just got filled up again and made another kernel update fail. This is obviously a bug, it should not be keeping so many old kernels. Where should I report this bug to?
[01:21] <Vivekananda> dr_willis: I looked at the cp --help and it does not give me anything specific for "hidden files"
[01:21] <ment0s_> hidden files looks like this  .file .folder
[01:21] <ment0s_> if you will copy parent folder then it will copy everyting including hidden files
[01:22] <dr_willis> http://superuser.com/questions/26586/copy-directory-contents-using-cp-command
[01:22] <ment0s_> if you want to copy only hidden files then you run cp /folder/.*
[01:23] <Vivekananda> I want to copy all to all then repartition and get back my home as it was
[01:23] <Vivekananda> this is my intention :)
[01:23] <Sushi|Laptop> What package should I report this /boot bug under? dpkg, apt-get, linux?
[01:24] <ment0s_> so so
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[01:24] <FloodBot1> ment0s_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:24] <dr_willis> Vivekananda:  check that url   - Ibelive (i  just skimmed  it) it suggestgs using cp -a .* /path/of/backup  to cp  the   hidden dirs..    then a cp *  to get the  normal files
[01:25] <dr_willis> and the -a option aparently is for archive/keep all permissions/ownership
[01:25] <dr_willis> Id just cheat and use 'mc' to do the copy.. but im lazy
[01:25] <dr_willis> if i was smarter id learn to use rsync ;)
[01:26] <Vivekananda> dr_willis: I can use grsync/rsync but I want to know that if I use is will the hiddens get copied ?
[01:26] <Vivekananda> if they would then I am by all means going to use it
[01:26] <dr_willis> if you tell  it to it should.
[01:27] <dr_willis> cp caan copy the hidden  files IF YOU TELL IT TO
[01:27] <dr_willis>  cp .*     foo     i  belive..
[01:27] <Vivekananda> ok let me try twice cp way first
[01:27] <dr_willis> if you were using rsync it would scan and only copy the changed files. :0
[01:27] <dr_willis> thats like the powar of rsync
[01:30] <Vivekananda> dr_willis: so cp in two steps would copy all normal ( files owned by me ) and all hiddens ones But I still have to copy the ones that are under root permissions
[01:30] <Vivekananda> what do I do then ?
[01:30] <exearco_> Hello, is anyone in here experienced with workstations that have a SAS controller such as a Dell Precision 690?
[01:31] <dr_willis> Vivekananda:  what files in your users home are owned by root? i cant think of any that would normally  exist
[01:31] <compdoc> I have a sas controller, but no in a dell
[01:31] <compdoc> not
[01:32] <Vivekananda> dr_willis: I dont know but vaguely recall something cannot be copied kind of thing happening. I will tell you if it happens again.
[01:32] <Vivekananda> someone said a little above that tere CAn be some files like that for the home folder too!
[01:32] <exearco_> Well, my problem is is that I am trying to Install Ubuntu 12.10 onto my Dell Precision 690.
[01:32] <exearco_> I have had issues with the SAS controller before.
[01:32] <exearco_> Basically, the Drive Shows up in /dev/sda
[01:32] <exearco_> but not in the installer itself
[01:32] <histo> !manual | Vivekananda This may be of help when you have some time.
[01:33] <dr_willis> Vivekananda:  ignore any  errors for .gvfs  its special
[01:38] <ment0s_> hmm my adeskbar stops working properly after upgrade to 13.04, when I trying go to setting it does noting ...
[01:39] <dr_willis> run it from terminal - look for error messages..  trouble shooting basics  ;)
[01:39] <dr_willis> and #ubuntu+1 for 13.04
[01:42] <ment0s_> dr_willis: troubleshoot basis :) good one. https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5010111 I cannot troublehsoot python lol
[01:42] <Vivekananda> dr_willis: histo  this is one in a series of errors I am getting using simple cp -- cannot open `/home/varun/.juniper_networks/network_connect/ncsvc' for reading: Permission denied
[01:43] <dr_willis> no idea what varun is.
[01:44] <dr_willis> or what .juniper is either.
[01:44] <ment0s_> dr_willis: varun must be  his home folder isnt it ?  :)
[01:44] <Vivekananda> varun is just the my name
[01:45] <Vivekananda> .juniper was I guess something to do with oracle I installed its ide a whillllee back
[01:45] <ment0s_> dr_willis: troubleshooting basis :)
[01:45] <ment0s_> juniper networks = cisco stuff ?
[01:46] <Vivekananda> histo: was interested to know this so here I am . Now I guess should try rsync and see what happens
[01:47] <dr_willis> if you dont need the. juniper stuff  clean it out. ;-)
[02:06] <Vivekananda> dr_willis: the two cps gimme 3 gbs in both source and dest
[02:06] <ianharper> Hi there. Is there any way to group volumes on the left panel in Thunar? I have 4 OS's installed and i have a load like (500mb vol, 20G vol etc etc 20 of the to be exact) Just wonderin nothin serious.
[02:06] <Vivekananda> I am using another folder to use grsync and then compare the two child folder
[02:06] <Vivekananda> using diff
[02:08] <dr_willis> ianharper: if you give the filesystems a label it may use that name instead of   300gb  volume
[02:09] <ianharper> I'll try it there ty Dr.
[02:10] <dr_willis> a lable change may not get noticed untill you reboot
[02:12] <ianharper> Nah still lists them all if ya know what i mean, hummm maybe if it could just show the Extended partitions as a whole?
[02:25] <grendal-prime> i have a situation where my mic stops working untell i open the pulse audio mixer and toggle between the two mic's in the dropdown and then it starts working
[02:25] <grendal-prime> so i switch it from mic to internal then back to mic and it works
[02:26] <grendal-prime> i have to do this after waking the laptop every time
[02:26] <xjdesx> yo
[02:27] <ejv> grendal-prime: sounds like you should file a bug report on launchpad
[02:29] <debk> hola
[02:32] <datruth> Is this a good start to writing ipv4/ipv6 iptables rules? http://pastebin.com/nTdEL9Zt
[02:32] <jonathan_> i've problem with python-kivy
[02:32] <jonathan_> Perhaps JAVA_HOME does not point to the JDK.
[02:32] <jonathan_> It is currently set to "/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-i386/jre"
[02:33] <jonathan_> i will programm.py ---> to ---> programme.apk
[02:33] <jonathan_> i read this url :    http://kivy.org/docs/guide/packaging-android.html
[02:34] <jonathan_> ./build.py and i have this error http://kivy.org/docs/guide/packaging-android.html
[02:34] <jonathan_> It is currently set to "/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-i386/jre"
[02:35] <raj> how can I see which groups there are?
[02:35] <raj> user groups
[02:35] <raj> all of  them
[02:35] <raj> as in, possible groups
[02:36] <datruth> raj: cat /etc/group ?
[02:36] <bud> greetings - i'm looking for some troubleshooting help - just installed liveCD 12.04 and it is not connecting to my wifi. where's a place i can troubleshoot this? thanks!!
[02:36] <raj> oh wow
[02:36] <raj> that's a lot
[02:37] <raj> can I make it alphabetical by any chance datruth ?
[02:37] <dr_willis> !wireless)
[02:37] <dr_willis> !wireless
[02:37] <cfhowlett> bud, this is a broadcom wifi card??
[02:37] <dr_willis> raj:  command | sort
[02:38] <raj> holy crap
[02:38] <raj> nice
[02:38] <raj> can I see what users are in a group
[02:38] <raj> ?
[02:38] <bud> buffalo airstation wl13-cb-g54l
[02:38] <raj> and what is the meaning of fuse:x:104: ?
[02:39] <bud> pcmcia card in toshiba lappie
[02:39] <jonathan_> je vais prendre un traducteur car je suis vraiment nul en anglais.
[02:39] <jonathan_> J'essaie de transformer un script python en application apk pour la mettre sur mon téléphone android. je suis ce tutoriel http://kivy.org/docs/guide/packaging-android.html . Je bloque au niveau de build.py car j'ai cette erreur:
[02:39] <jonathan_> com.sun.tools.javac.Main is not on the classpath.
[02:39] <jonathan_> Perhaps JAVA_HOME does not point to the JDK.
[02:39] <jonathan_> It is currently set to "/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-i386/jre"
[02:39] <FloodBot1> jonathan_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:39] <jonathan_> merci d'avance
[02:39] <dr_willis> !permissions
[02:39] <dr_willis> i rarely mess with groups
[02:41] <bud> cfhowlett - from what i can google, it may be a Broadcom BCM4318
[02:42] <cfhowlett> bud, then you're likely in luck.  Broadcom came be quickly and easily fired up with a current ubuntu ISO
[02:42] <dr_willis> !bcm
[02:43] <cfhowlett> bud, fwiw: Dell 1545, no hard wire so couldn't use the "additional drivers" method.  Used the STA No Internet.  3 commands at terminal, 3 minutes and wifi was enabled.  no reboot required.
[02:44] <cfhowlett> bud, if you go this way, note: step 2 of this method is not required ...
[02:44] <bud> should have mentioned i'm total ubuntu newbie. running liveCD 1st time. so do i need to install drivers for this and how?
[02:45] <cfhowlett> bud, well i see you have internet access at present so ... no?
[02:45] <bud> nope, on (2nd) win machine
[02:45] <dr_willis> i got a cheap wifi dongle that works out of the box. so i can plug it into problem laptops and use the   additional drivers tool
[02:45] <cfhowlett> bud, OK, well. see that tutorial in the link ubottu sent.  You can set it up when you're ready
[02:46] <raj> to use sshfs, do I have to add the user to the 'fuse' group?
[02:46] <bud> ok, thx guys!!
[02:46] <dr_willis> raj: i dident need to
[02:46] <cfhowlett> dr_willis, thanks.  make/model of your dongle?  (Gee, THAT didn't sound porno now did it?)
[02:46] <raj> this was saying to do that http://embraceubuntu.com/2005/10/28/how-to-mount-a-remote-ssh-filesystem-using-sshfs/
[02:46] <dr_willis> they are allready in it i think
[02:46] <LarrySteeze> where can I find the list of the dev team for the phablet project?
[02:46] <raj> do you have something good I can follow dr_willis
[02:46] <cfhowlett> !table|LarrySteeze,   probably here somewhere
[02:46] <cfhowlett> !tablet
[02:47] <LarrySteeze> my bad. Thank you cfhowlett
[02:47] <cfhowlett> LarrySteeze, no problem
[02:47] <dr_willis> cfhowlett:  i got 4 different ones from amazon. from $5 to $20   i checked the reviews to be sure they worked out of the box.
[02:47] <LarrySteeze> have I missed an influx of people coming with questions about it? :D
[02:48] <dr_willis> one even worked on my media player box. automatically.
[02:48] <cfhowlett> LarrySteeze, well, enough to make an official channel to be sure.  enjoy
[02:48] <LarrySteeze> I see that, heh.
[02:48] <cfhowlett> dr_willis, good deal.
[02:48] <LarrySteeze> I just wanted to see if one of my canonical friends had anything to do with it :P
[02:49] <dr_willis> got a micro usb dongle for $5  no idea what brand
[02:50] <rambulun> Hello every one, do you help me with my dual monitors problem on ubuntu 12.04LTS, i setup dual monitors but after some minutes ubuntu auto change my settings to mirror display, or clone, or difference resolutions
[02:51] <dr_willis> what chipset rambulun ?
[02:52] <rambulun> AMD
[02:52] <rambulun> xrandr
[02:52] <dr_willis> that narrows it down to like 200 different cards ;)
[02:52] <rambulun> Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 2646 x 1024, maximum 8192 x 8192
[02:52] <rambulun> LVDS1 connected 1366x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 344mm x 194mm
[02:52] <rambulun>    1366x768       60.0*+   40.1
[02:52] <rambulun>    1360x768       59.8     60.0
[02:52] <FloodBot1> rambulun: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:52] <rambulun>    1024x768       60.0
[02:53] <oldude67> anyone else having issues with yahoo.com's homepage?
[02:53] <tharkun> !help
[02:53] <oldude67> oops threw google chrome?
[02:53] <dr_willis> !ask
[02:53] <rambulun> @dr_willis sorry, i dont understand
[02:54] <tharkun> What version of kvm does 12.04 LTS has?
[02:54] <dr_willis> rambulun:  we need a more specicif chipset then AMD..
[02:54] <dr_willis> rambulun:  and the  @person notation is for twitter..  not  irc.  ;)
[02:54] <dr_willis> !tab
[02:55] <dr_willis> @name on irc  normally is when a personis a  cchannel Op
[02:55] <rambulun> dr_willis: ok, it is Radeon HD 5400M
[02:55] <rambulun> 6400M
[02:56] <dr_willis> i dont really  use ati.. are you using the FGLRX drivers or the Open Sourced ones?
[02:58] <rambulun> dr_willis: i use amd catalys driver setup in there https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#Installing_via_the_command_line
[02:58] <dr_willis> if its changveing stuff on the fly without your  input.. it could be a loose cable its seeing the monitor connect/disconnect.. is about all i  can think of.
[02:59] <dr_willis> unless you can be more specific about  when its doing the changeing
[02:59] <dr_willis> assuming there is a pattern  to when its doing it
[02:59] <Vivekananda> dr_willis: how do I use diff to compare two folders?
[02:59] <rambulun> dr_willis:  I dont think that, when i use arch linux or window, it ok, but when i setup ubuntu i meet this problem
[02:59] <dr_willis> Vivekananda:  i thougth diff compared 2 files..
[03:00] <tharkun> Where can I find the tweaks made to KVM that makes it not a good tool to virtualized GUI based hosts?
[03:01] <dr_willis> unstableme.blogspot.com/2008/03/compare-two-directories-using-diff-bash.html?m=1         First google hit on it Vivekananda
[03:02] <nixbag> is there a way to capture audio output from alsa (no pulseaudio is installed)? preferably with avconv.
[03:02] <nixbag> eg, something like:  avconv -f alsa -i hw:0,0 file.wav
[03:02] <nixbag> but that example does not work for me.
[03:03] <rambulun> dr_willis: i want to setup  LVDS1 1366x768 left-of VGA1  1280x1024, when change it on display setting it ok, but after some minutes it auto change with random setting ( mirror display, clone or something eslse)
[03:04] <Vivekananda> dr_willis: yep sorry
[03:04] <dr_willis> rambulun:  for ati cards with the fglrx drivers i would  think you would use that amdccle control  panel  tool. not the display settings tool
[03:07] <DarthEaron> hello everyone i am trying to setup a mail server on my machine but i cant log into squirlmail...i fallowed all the guides..can someone please point me in the right diriection?
[03:08] <Vivekananda> is ment0s_ here ?
[03:08] <Vivekananda> dr_willis : the cp done twice and the grsync without sudo produce different results
[03:08] <boom0917> has anyone had good luck installing shoutcast to the menu of Rythmbox i tried using this link http://code.google.com/p/rhythmbox-shoutcast/wiki/HOWTO_Install and no go i am using ubuntu 12.04
[03:12] <raj> how can I automatically sshfs when I start ubuntu?
[03:12] <dr_willis> raj:  start as in boot up.. or as in when the user logs in..
[03:14] <raj> dr_willis, when user logs in
[03:15] <raj> but I have autologin
[03:15] <dr_willis> raj:  tjeres a .config/autorun directory you can put scripts in that get ran when they login.. may be called autostart
[03:15] <raj> awesome !
[03:15] <raj> thanks!
[03:15] <raj> dr_willis, what's your opinion on gedit3?
[03:16] <raj> should I upgrade?
[03:16] <raj> from 2
[03:16] <dr_willis> never used gedit3. i rarely  use gedit
[03:16] <dr_willis> i tend to sue vim or geany
[03:16] <raj> oh ok
[03:16] <raj> geany is cool
[03:17] <harley> i prefer emacs more
[03:17] <bud> greetings again - can I check the md5 of a file with livecd and no internet connection? (e.g., is md5 checker built in?) and how do i run it for a file in my 'downloads' folder? thanks!
[03:17] <dr_willis> md5sum path/to//file
[03:18] <dr_willis> you  still need the   actual  sum from  the download site to check against
[03:18] <dr_willis> or to at leasst look at.   to compare.  ;)
[03:18] <bazhang> !hashes | bud
[03:18] <bud> i have the sum, thanks!
[03:18] <dr_willis> !md5
[03:20] <kantlivelong> anyone here use nvidia mosaic with GTX cards?
[03:23] <raj> I have gnu screen open via ssh
[03:23] <raj> can I view any files via gedit on my local machine?
[03:23] <Rezzafez> Hello, I need some support with my new ubuntu installation on an Asus A54H - The FN keys refuse to work despite Ubuntu obviously recognizing them (it comes up with a circle with a cross through it when I try to use the FN keys to adjust brightness and contrast)
[03:24] <dr_willis> local machine? you just run gedit locally....
[03:24] <lime_> Is there any way to force all of ubuntu to display in black and white?  I have a disability that makes it difficult to see to many contrasting colors.
[03:24] <raj> but how can I open the file on the remote machine
[03:25] <dr_willis> raj:  mount the remote with sshfs
[03:25] <raj> i'm looking at the file using screen
[03:25] <raj> I did
[03:25] <raj> but it makes me use my local username
[03:25] <raj> I want to actually login using the remote user's username
[03:25] <raj> so I can edit his files
[03:25] <dr_willis> ssjfs can use other usernames
[03:25] <raj> for example, I can't edit files within ~/.irssi
[03:25] <marenostrum> There's a new set of Ubuntu updates for 12.04. A couple of them are kernel packages. Synaptic says that, linux-generic-pae will be updated from 3.2.0.38.60 to 3.2.0.38.61, in short from xxx60 to xxx61. On the other hand, both from Synaptic and dpkg, what I have currently installed seems to be xxx48 (that's to say 3.2.0.38.48) not xxx60. Is there a contradiction, something unexpected? Is it a sign of an issue or is it fine at all?
[03:26] <dr_willis> check the sshfs docs for the options
[03:26] <raj> so do I just need my local username to match up with the remote machine's username?
[03:26] <Vivekananda> lubuntu does not have any torrent sites to download too!! Is this a regular ubuntu distribution ?
[03:26] <raj> and they would be though of as the same user?
[03:27] <Rezzafez> So nobody can help, then?
[03:27] <Oblivion1500> hello everyone, is there a separate chat for ubuntu server?
[03:28] <Oblivion1500> yes there is, thanks for your help
[03:29] <packetfrog> :D
[03:29] <packetfrog> I like rice.
[03:30] <Vivekananda> Rezzafez: I am not sure I can be of much help but can try. Did you try to find out how the keybindings work in ubuntu for your model and try to reset them or something ?
[03:30] <Rezzafez> Vivekananda: I don't know how to do that at all unfortunately
[03:31] <raj> any thoughts dr_willis?
[03:31] <dr_willis> http://linux.die.net/man/1/sshfs     read it..    sshfs user@host
[03:31] <Vivekananda> Rezzafez: what is your model of the the computer and what ubuntu version ?
[03:31] <Rezzafez> Vivekananda: my laptop is an Asus A54H and I'm using Ubuntu 12.10
[03:31] <dr_willis> login on as the other user
[03:33] <Vivekananda> ok got it . Let me see if I can find something for you
[03:33] <dr_willis> wow.. tons of advanced sshfs info at   http://www.howtoforge.com/mounting-remote-directories-with-sshfs-on-debian-squeeze
[03:36] <yigal> my FF 19 on 12.10 is force closing more than Windows
[03:36] <yigal> any suggestions
[03:36] <Vivekananda> Rezzafez: Does this help ?? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=916122
[03:36] <yigal> I'm thinking of just removing the config
[03:36] <Vivekananda> read through it
[03:36] <Rezzafez> checking!
[03:36] <Rezzafez> thanks
[03:37] <Vivekananda> np:)
[03:37] <dr_willis> yigal: trying a clean setup would be a good test
[03:37] <yigal> dr_willis: ya, I can't stand this
[03:37] <Rezzafez> you know, what's interesting is the FN keys worked fine on version 10
[03:37] <yigal> dr_willis: I already removed all cached history
[03:37] <Rezzafez> but now they don't
[03:38] <Rezzafez> I don't get this with Ubuntu, how can they "lose" such support?
[03:38] <dr_willis> yigal: try a new profile perhaps. or with no extensions
[03:38] <yigal> dr_willis: good idea
[03:38] <bud> i'm still a bit stuck on getting wifi working on liveCD with my buffalo card. anyone availble for some newbie handholding? thanks!
[03:39] <yigal> dr_willis: only extension is vimperator
[03:39] <Rezzafez> I've already tried the "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi_osi=Linux"" angle
[03:39] <dr_willis> Rezzafez: kernel changes
[03:39] <Rezzafez> didn't work no matter what I tried
[03:39] <yigal> dr_willis: I'm going to move .mozilla out of the way
[03:39] <Vivekananda> hmmm
[03:39] <Vivekananda> That is why I dislike upgrading. I go from lts to lts coz that is unavoidable
[03:40] <dr_willis> I always clean install
[03:40] <dr_willis> takes less time
[03:40] <Vivekananda> dr_willis:  should I download lubuntu ? it is not an lts and I did not want to upgrade to it
[03:40] <Vivekananda> dr_willis: If you can suggest a way that I can get my old settings + programs back then I would do the same :)
[03:41] <dr_willis> I think yiu are worrying too much about lts
[03:41] <dr_willis> and you can just install the lubuntu-desktop package
[03:41] <dr_willis> ! clone
[03:41] <yigal> ough stupid ff is already running a defunct process, pkill -9 firefox what a bummer
[03:41] <Vivekananda> dr_willis: not worrying. On the contrary I do that to avoid worry for 3 yrs , now 5 yrs
[03:42] <dr_willis> in 5 years I will have a pent 9000 superbox with esp ....
[03:42] <Vivekananda> dr_willis: will this work if I do the upgrade fro lucid gnome to lubuntu 12.04
[03:42] <Vivekananda> ?
[03:42] <dr_willis> and who knows what else...
[03:43] <bud> i'm still a bit stuck on getting wifi working on liveCD 12.04lts with my buffalo card. anyone availble for some newbie handholding? thanks!
[03:43] <dr_willis> ! lucid
[03:43] <dr_willis> I rarelt
[03:43] <dr_willis> rarely do release upgrades... so no idea
[03:43] <Vivekananda> dr_willis: I have this comp for 6 yrs now. Dont plan to buy a newone unless money I have :( :)
[03:45] <yigal> dr_willis: ok, mv ~/.mozilla{,.bak} && apt-get purge firefox && apt-get install  --install-suggests firefox
[03:45] <Vivekananda> dr_willis: the instructions above are to replicate packages for reinstall but I will be upgrading.!! Will that work in that case ?
[03:45] <yigal> dr_willis: we will see if this does some good
[03:45] <Rezzafez> Vivekananda: Alright I'll try this one thing but I doubt it will work... I think I'm doomed but thanks anyway for the help, man
[03:46] <Vivekananda> NP
[03:48] <yigal> Vivekananda: that's the spirit, why upgrade the hardware if the computer does what you need
[03:48] <yigal> Vivekananda: and hopefully, what you want it to
[03:48] <Vivekananda> yigal: I dont want to even now but it is troubling me now
[03:49] <Vivekananda> eg suddenly pdftk stopped working ( dependencies not present)
[03:49] <dr_willis> it saves a list of installed packages to a  file.. then rereads the list Vivekananda  so yes
[03:49] <yigal> Vivekananda: pdftk was the primary reason for me to revert back to Ubuntu from Arch
[03:49] <dr_willis> you reinstall the clean os.. then use the list.
[03:49] <veoozo> Hi.
[03:49] <Vivekananda> then had to install sml module in emacs and that too is not working ( dependencies not satisfied)
[03:49] <veoozo> Is this the place to come for help?
[03:50] <yigal> veoozo: what type of help, sir?
[03:50] <Vivekananda> also support for lucid is gone so I figured I might jump onto the next lts for the next 5 yrs :)
[03:50] <dr_willis> veoozo:  we try :) if its ubuntu support
[03:50] <dr_willis> i rarely worry about LTS or not..
[03:50] <dr_willis> actually i dont worry about LTS at all.. ;P
[03:50] <dr_willis> but im a home user. ;)
[03:51] <Vivekananda> dr_willis: I wanted to worry even less than you !! :) . I wanted to install once in a lifetime and then just click for updates and keep using the system unless I buy a brand new laptop and then get a brand new OS :)
[03:51] <veoozo> Well, I have installed Ubuntu (and Mint) on my Lenovo Ideapad Yoga 13. I cannot get the wifi to work! No matter what I do, it won't work. There is a thread going about this, but nobody's posted in 4 hours. Woukld you like a link?
[03:51] <shade34321> when using dd from an internal drive to an external drive does the external drive need to be mounted?
[03:51] <yigal> veoozo: sure
[03:51] <dr_willis> Vivekananda:  then you start having to get used to using old versions of apps...
[03:51] <veoozo> Okay, hold on.
[03:52] <yigal> shade34321: no
[03:52] <yigal> shade34321: well wait
[03:52] <yigal> shade34321: what are you doing with dd?
[03:52] <Vivekananda> dr_willis: I am fine with using oldies for now. Hell pdftk was working fine until it suddenly collapsed god knows why
[03:52] <shade34321> yigal: so if /dev/sda is the drive I want to copy and I'm copying it to the external /dev/sdi, dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdi
[03:53] <shade34321> and sdi is not mounted but is listed in fdisk
[03:53] <Vivekananda> but I will try lubuntu once now
[03:53] <dr_willis> shade34321:  imageing to a DEVICE- you dont mount.. Imageing to a FILEit has to be on a mounted Filesystem of course
[03:53] <veoozo> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1911972 That's the link to the thread.
[03:53] <shade34321> dr_willis: so what I did is correct then
[03:53] <shade34321> should it take 3 hrs+ to copy over a 75GB hard drive?
[03:53] <dr_willis> if you want to clone sda to sdb  you DONTmount sdb.. In fact you should use a live cd. and not have sda mounted either
[03:54] <yigal> shade34321: depends on how the drives are connected
[03:54] <dr_willis> shade34321:  you DIDuse a  bs=4M option to dd?
[03:54] <shade34321> dr_willis: it's a production system we're cloning and we can't take it down:/
[03:54] <shade34321> dr_willis: internal is SAS 15K if I remember correctly and external is mounted via USB 2.0
[03:54] <dr_willis> shade34321:  theres NOguarentees that clone will be correct
[03:54] <veoozo> Hello?
[03:54] <dr_willis> veoozo:  Jello?
[03:54] <dr_willis> cloneing a IN use  filesystem - is not a good idea
[03:54] <yigal> shade34321: you may want to remount the disk to be copied as read only, if possible
[03:55] <tgm4883> For he's a jolly good fello?
[03:55] <veoozo> Anybody wlling to help?
[03:55] <dr_willis> at least not via DD
[03:55] <shade34321> dr_willis: I know but this is what I was told to do by my boss, so I do as he says but I've been waiting on it to finish to go home and now i'm just getting annoyed
[03:55] <tgunr> ok, so I'm in xubuntu and accidently clicked on the calender thingee in the top menu bar, and now have a calendar that won't go away
[03:55] <tgm4883> !patience | veoozo
[03:55] <veoozo> Whtever.
[03:55] <dr_willis> shade34321:  theres better ways to backup  an IN use filesystem
[03:55] <shade34321> personally I'm to scared to try this on a production server
[03:55] <dr_willis> veoozo:  did you ask a support question?
[03:56] <shade34321> dr_willis: well I have to have the disk be bootable so we can put it on another system
[03:56] <shade34321> personally I would of used clonezilla but I can't take it down to use it
[03:56] <tgm4883> dr_willis, he did, he's just being impatient
[03:56] <dr_willis> shade34321:  it should be bootable.. but the users data files.. are not guarrentied to  be correct..
[03:56] <dr_willis> shade34321:  if someone deleted files in mid -dd... well.. who  knows  what they will be like on the final image
[03:56] <shade34321> dr_willis: not copying those, /home /storage and /scratch are all not be copied over
[03:57] <shade34321> so it's just system files in /dev/sda which shouldn't be touched during the entire process
[03:57] <dr_willis> shade34321:  there are ways to remount  / read only for a short time to make the  DD
[03:57] <shade34321> dr_willis: How's that?
[03:57] <dr_willis> mount -o remount
[03:57] <dr_willis> but if its taking 4+hrs to image.... Id suggest getting some USB3 drives.
[03:57] <shade34321> that won't cause any problems with log files?
[03:58] <shade34321> dr_willis: no USB 3 ports on it because the drive is USB 3:/
[03:58] <shade34321> lol
[03:58] <shade34321> *no USB 3 ports on the server
[03:58] <boom0917> Hi all What  audio program  do you all use to listen to SHOUTCAST music streams I am using 12.04 Lts
[03:58] <dr_willis> You can get pcie Usb3 cards for like $20  if it has a pcie slot
[03:58] <shade34321> dr_willis: they are being used with fiber connections to external raids
[03:59] <shade34321> dr_willis: the other option was take another hard drive and put it in but I couldn't find out if the server had hot swappable drives or not so rather than risking it going down in a ball of flames I went the external route
[04:00] <Wolfgang__> Hey i have a win 8 comp and i also want ubuntu
[04:00] <BHXSpecter> Well slowly getting my laptop back in working order....now all I'm getting is the libdrm-nouveau2 stuff but still not found a way to fix it -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1703872/
[04:00] <Wolfgang__> How can i acomplish this?
[04:01] <dr_willis> fiber connections to raids.. and you  are backing up the system over usb2 ? does that seem... weird to anyone else?
[04:02] <shade34321> dr_willis: it's not for a backup...need to make a clone to put it on another system, the other system was an experimental cluster but now it's needs to be used and nobody here was aroudn when either was put together
[04:02] <dr_willis> i backed up a 3TB usb2 to another usb2 the other day... took.. err.. days
[04:02] <raj> thanks dr_willis!
[04:02] <shade34321> dr_willis: but I understand what you're saying, they're should be a better way
[04:02] <dr_willis> shade34321:  clonezilla would let you clone pc1 to pc2 over the network..
[04:02] <BHXSpecter> dear god, a 3TB backup? not sure I love my data THAT much
[04:03] <shade34321> dr_willis: that was my original plan but I can't take down the first server
[04:03] <dr_willis> BHXSpecter:  its the wifes movies and so forth  :)  so she  has like 3 copies.. one for each media player in the house.
[04:03] <shade34321> dr_willis: the queue on the cluster are days long
[04:03] <dr_willis> shade34321:  clonezilla dosent need to take it down..
[04:03] <dr_willis> as far as i know
[04:03] <Wolfgang__> Hey i have a win 8 comp and i also want ubuntu
[04:03] <Wolfgang__> How can i acomplish this?
[04:03] <shade34321> dr_willis: how so? The only way I know how to use it is via live CD
[04:04] <dr_willis> I thought there was a clonezilla service.. but  i could be wrong
[04:04] <shade34321> dr_willis: I'm not aware of any but I'll look it up.
[04:04] <BHXSpecter> yeah a mad wife isn't something I like to deal with so I'd back up 3 TB too at that rate :)
[04:04] <dr_willis> i tend to  just backup data.. not the whole OS
[04:05] <Wolfgang__> can some one help me with this?
[04:06] <shade34321> dr_willis: apparently you can set up a clonezilla server to back up over the network...guess we could of gone that route if there was an extra comptuer laying around
[04:06] <dr_willis> shade34321:  hmm so the pc being cloned cant be its own server?
[04:07] <shade34321> dr_willis: no, or rather it can but has to have the clonezilla stuff booted, ie live CD or installed
[04:07] <boom0917> wolfgang  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wubi_%28Ubuntu_installer%29
[04:07] <dr_willis> i thought thats how i read the clonezilla site as they cloned itself to a 100+ pcs at the same time as a test
[04:07] <Wolfgang__> boom0917, thank you
[04:08] <dr_willis> so a working server with clonezliia could clone itself to  other pcss on the lan  via the netboot features or some other ways
[04:08] <boom0917> your welcome
[04:08] <dr_willis> Wolfgang__:  a wubi install is not a normal install.. I dont use windows8 so no idea onissues with a normal install on it.
[04:08] <dr_willis> !install
[04:08] <shade34321> dr_willis: I see what you're getting at, but I don't think clonezilla is a package taht can be installed
[04:08] <shade34321> I'll double check
[04:09] <Wolfgang__> dr_willis, is it a bad idea to try then?
[04:09] <dr_willis> I  imagine the ubuntu forums and askubuntu.com have 1000s of posts on win8 installs
[04:09] <Wolfgang__> ok
[04:09] <dr_willis> Wolfgang__:  to TRY wubi is ok..  just rember  its a TEST setup
[04:09] <shade34321> dr_willis: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1483992 , yeah it's only a distro and not an application:(
[04:09] <Wolfgang__> Maybe i should try it in vm?
[04:10] <shade34321> dr_willis: I'll let it run overnight...thanks for your help!
[04:10] <dr_willis> 12.10 lubuntu in a vm works very well.
[04:10] <Wolfgang__> ok
[04:10] <boytoy> Hi. I'm trying to list some dependencies needed to compile Ruby. Can someone list these in order of importance for such a compile? gcc automake libtool bison readline
[04:10] <Wolfgang__> Is virtual box the same as vm?
[04:10] <dr_willis> boytoy:  install the build-essential package  and let it go..
[04:11] <dr_willis> vbox is a VM. as is vmware. and others..
[04:11] <Wolfgang__> Ok
[04:11] <boytoy> dr_willis: I need to know the order of importance
[04:11] <dr_willis> boytoy:  theres the apt-get build-dep  package           command to pull in needed deps to compile a package also
[04:11] <dr_willis> boytoy:  i  dont see how the order matters.. or what your asking is confuseing..
[04:11] <boytoy> That's cool but that's not what I asked
[04:12] <dr_willis> time to clarify the quuestion then
[04:12] <boytoy> Hi. I'm trying to list some dependencies needed to compile Ruby. Can someone list these in order of importance for such a compile? gcc automake libtool bison readline
[04:12] <boytoy> Which is to say
[04:13] <boytoy> Which of these tools are most important to a general build / compile process
[04:13] <boytoy> Generally speaking
[04:13] <dr_willis> sort of hard to compile anything without gcc installed. ;)
[04:14] <boytoy> dr_willis: hehe
[04:14] <karpuragauram> Dr_Willis. Have xubuntu on a USB. Have logged into it. Trying to copy home folder using is giving me permission errors.
[04:14] <dr_willis> this  sounds suspuciously like  a CS homework question...
[04:14] <boytoy> yes that is definitely #1 on the list
[04:14] <karpuragauram> This is Vivekananda
[04:15] <dr_willis> karpuragauram:  you  need to use sudo rights to copy things if they are not owned  by your user. live cd user is  called 'ubuntu' and wont be the  same as your  installed system normally
[04:15] <Wolfgang__> How can i get 12.04 in vm?
[04:15] <Wolfgang__> btw i dont have a vm.
[04:15] <dr_willis> karpuragauram:  and wherfe you are copying to has to  be writeable as a user.. or use sudo
[04:15] <dr_willis> !vbox
[04:16] <dr_willis> install vbox.. get lubuntu 12.10 iso.. boot it in vboxx .. install
[04:16] <dr_willis> install vbox guest addations if they  dont get installed by default. ;)
[04:16] <karpuragauram> But won't I have to set up the sudo first.  I don't have a password for it at the moment
[04:16] <boytoy> dr_willis: it aint homework
[04:16] <dr_willis> karpuragauram:  sudo  on live cd has no password last i looked
[04:16] <dr_willis> boytoy:  its just a very vague general  question. ;)
[04:17] <Wolfgang__> downloads just has deb files.
[04:17] <karpuragauram> Kk
[04:17] <dr_willis> vbox exists for windows...
[04:17] <Wolfgang__> ok
[04:17] <dr_willis> i use it there all the time..
[04:19] <kmentat> Hi all. I'm having trouble getting my BCM4401 NIC to work, and I think it's because ssb is getting in the way, but I can't do anything to unload it.
[04:19] <kmentat> Whenever I try and rmmod or modprobe -rv ssb the terminal soft-hangs (I can ctrl+c out of it).
[04:19] <kmentat> I'm running 12.04 from the Mythbuntu 64-bit distro.
[04:20] <Wolfgang__> My computer is warning me that it might be dangerous
[04:20] <dr_willis> you could black the ssb module so  it never loads perhaps.
[04:20] <dr_willis> blacklist
[04:20] <Wolfgang__> Im fine right?
[04:20] <dr_willis> !blacklist
[04:20] <dr_willis> Wolfgang__:  we dont know  what you are doing exactly.. and Windows has all sorts of idiotic warnings..  then does dangerous/damageing things without asking....
[04:21] <DarthEaron> what is modprobe exactly?
[04:21] <dr_willis> modprobe loads a 'module' into the kernel.. which are normally  'driver files'
[04:21] <Wolfgang__> Ok
[04:21] <DarthEaron> okay what about dmesg
[04:21] <kmentat> dr_willis, oh hell. I blacklisted it, but I forgot about update-initramfs. It's been a while since I've monkied with Ubuntu and I've been playing with FreeBSD all week, so I'm a bit turned around.
[04:21] <dr_willis>   whatever.ko is normally a module file
[04:21] <IveBeenBit> is there a chuser type command that will let me temporarily operate as a different user? And if so, how do I do it and change back to my regular user once I'm done?
[04:21] <dr_willis> kmentat:  ;) i rarely ahve to  mess with the kernels.
[04:21] <DarthEaron> oh my the way im stuck in windows for the time being, i have no computer at the moment
[04:22] <mhaz> anyone know why there were two kernel updates this week?
[04:22] <DarthEaron> su - %usernamehere%
[04:22] <dr_willis> IveBeenBit:   you can use su to run a command as a differnt  user. if thats what youneed
[04:22] <DarthEaron> su - %usernamehere%
[04:22] <tds5016> hey. I'm having trouble installing libtinyxml. can someone help? http://pastebin.com/cAespAWZ
[04:22] <kmentat> dr_willis, How long should a new initramfs take to generate on an old Core2Duo? I don't imagine it should take nearly this long.
[04:23] <tds5016> this is stupidly frustrating. haha.
[04:23] <dr_willis> kmentat:  no idea. I rarely ever pay  attention to such  things.. i  wouldent think more then a mion or 2
[04:23] <IveBeenBit> dr_willis, Yes, I just thought of that - as in "sudo" but I am not after root access. I'm reading the su man page now and will report back if I need more info. Thanks.
[04:23] <karpuragauram> Btw Dr_Willis. Thanks for being so patient and being online for so long helping everyone.
[04:23] <dr_willis> main use of su in ubuntu is to switch to a NON root user. ;)
[04:24] <kmentat> dr_willis, oop, nevermind, now I'm getting some console output from it. Guess it really *is* taking its sweet time.
[04:24] <dr_willis> su billgates -c moneymaker.sh
[04:24] <dr_willis> ;)
[04:24] <DarthEaron> if i wanted to log in as zp from a terminal running with superman logged in i would run superman$ su - zp
[04:24] <hermes123> I'm trying to set up a virtual "range" for students to use to practice web administration. One of the computers is a ubuntu box that needs to host a forum. Trick is, the VM isn't allowed to connect to the live internet to download any packages to host. Is there a native forum that I can host on an out of the box ubuntu distro?
[04:24] <dr_willis> DarthEaron:  id check man su to verify its syntax
[04:25] <kmentat> dr_willis, come on. That joke is so old… it's su steveballmer -c loselotsofmoney.sh now
[04:25] <dr_willis> kmentat:  whos that?
[04:25] <dr_willis> ;P
[04:25] <DarthEaron> dr_willis: i used this a couple days ago on slackware... it should be the same
[04:25] <tds5016> I'm not sure how I can get those dependencies
[04:25] <kmentat> Ballmer's the guy who's running Microsoft these days, since Gates stepped aside a couple years ago.
[04:25] <mhaz> su is root user
[04:25] <IveBeenBit> thanks dr_willis you cleared up some questions I had even after reading the su man page
[04:25] <dr_willis> mhaz:  su switches user.. it Can switch to root...
[04:26] <dr_willis> mhaz but not on a default ubuntu  setup
[04:26] <mhaz> true dat...
[04:26] <kmentat> dr_willis, Steve Ballmer is the guy running Microsoft now, since Bill Gates stepped aside a few years ago. Remember "Developers, developers, developers, developers, developers, developers, developers, developers, developers, developers, developers, developers, developers"?
[04:26] <DarthEaron> everytime i was in root and wanted to use irssi i would run "su - zp" my terminal would then be a non root user and i would run irssi from threr
[04:26] <dr_willis> kmentat:  not really.  I dont pay  much attention to pc news lately.. got sick  of hearing  whos sueing who every day
[04:27] <dr_willis> DarthEaron:  you could jsut run  'login' for a similer effect i belive
[04:27] <dr_willis> being root and switching to a user..  is sort of  backwards to  the ubuntu mindset/setups
[04:28] <phoenixsampras> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/user/ppa-name/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404  Not Found
[04:28] <IveBeenBit> Why did this not work after I entered the password? I got a "missing operand" error: su billgates -c mkdir ./test
[04:28] <phoenixsampras> y get this error when i do apt-get update
[04:28] <tgm4883> phoenixsampras, that isn't a valid PPA
[04:28] <DarthEaron> dr_willis: never tried to use login command before... hmmm ill keep that in mind for when i get back
[04:28] <dr_willis> phoenixsampras:  that looks like  a totally wrong ppa.. looks like a geenric example ppa name
[04:28] <chamunks> Is there any sandboxing software like www.sandboxie.com for ubuntu?  I know about Chrooting and Virtual Machines but im thinking more specifically like sandboxie.
[04:29] <tgm4883> phoenixsampras, I'd bet money you copied and pasted and example as an actual command
[04:29] <dr_willis> like from the ppa help popup baloon. ;)
[04:29] <phoenixsampras> dr_willis: should i remove it?
[04:29] <DarthEaron> tgm4883: i agree
[04:29] <dr_willis> phoenixsampras:  its useless... so why wouldent you  want to remove  it?
[04:30] <phoenixsampras> dr_willis: so after this error is safe to do apt-get upgrade ?
[04:30] <dr_willis> it shouldent be  breaking a apt-get update/upgrade in any case
[04:30] <dr_willis> its just a warning
[04:30] <mhaz> dr_willis: do you know why there were two kernel updates this week?
[04:30] <dr_willis> W: Failed    <--------- W = warning
[04:30] <Wolfgang__> I have vm how do i get a linux installer for it?
[04:30] <dr_willis> mhaz i never noticed.
[04:31] <tds5016> anyone able to help me with the libtinyxml headers issue?
[04:31] <dr_willis> Wolfgang__:  clarify what you mean.. we dont have ESP.
[04:31] <mhaz> ok. must not be an issue.
[04:31] <dano> any mmorpgs for ubuntu
[04:32] <Wolfgang__> I installed virtual box how do i get an installer for linux?
[04:32] <phoenixsampras> dr_willis: thanks!!
[04:32] <kmentat> dr_willis, This was back in like 2000. He started with this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvsboPUjrGc and this was his encore at another event: http://youtu.be/8To-6VIJZRE
[04:32] <dr_willis> Wolfgang__:  when using virtualbox. you  really  want  to read its manual  .. start downloading the lubuntu  12.10 iso  file.. and read the vbox docs as it downloads
[04:32] <tgm4883> Wolfgang__, you stick the virtual CD (ISO) into the virtual cd drive on the virtual machine
[04:32] <Wolfgang__> ok
[04:32] <Wolfgang__> can you give me a link to the iso?
[04:32] <dr_willis> vbox hass some of the best manual/docs ive seen.. and no one ever reads it. ;)
[04:32] <dr_willis> !download
[04:32] <tgm4883> seriously
[04:32] <dr_willis> !lubuntu
[04:33] <DarthEaron> wow man, you could have definatly googled that one
[04:33] <tds5016> http://pastebin.com/cAespAWZ
[04:33] <kmentat> !lmgtfy
[04:33] <lb27> !google
[04:33] <tds5016> can someoneplease help me with this?
[04:33] <tgm4883> kmentat, I don't think "ubuntu download" would be considered google-fu
[04:33] <DarthEaron> tds5016: whats your problem?
[04:34] <dr_willis> tds5016:  its a good idea to give a summary  of  the  problem. not  just a paste.. (or did i  miss the question)
[04:34] <kmentat> tgm4883, prolly not.
[04:34] <tds5016> sorry. tinxml won't install.
[04:34] <IveBeenBit> Why did this not work after I entered the password? I got a "missing operand" error:  $ su billgates -c mkdir ./test
[04:34] <tds5016> neither the headers or the library
[04:34] <Wolfgang__> Um where do i get the iso? can you just give me a link to the right one?
[04:34] <kmentat> The problem is pretty simple: tgm4883 is trapped in dependency hell.
[04:35] <dr_willis> Wolfgang__:  im on my phone..  so  no..   the lubuntu homepage should have links
[04:35] <Wolfgang__> ok
[04:35] <DarthEaron> tds5016: taking a look now
[04:35] <tds5016> definitely dep hell... can someone help me grab these deps?
[04:35] <BHXSpecter> does this error mean the package is broke or my installation is? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1703872/ at first it was giving dependency errors but now it is just the one library
[04:35] <kmentat> Wolfgang__, http://lubuntu.net/ — There's a big download link at the top.
[04:35] <DarthEaron> tds5016: when is the last time you run sudo apt-get update?
[04:36] <ethana3> So, I installed Ubuntu Touch Preview on my Nexus 10
[04:36] <dr_willis> A Jolly Candy Like Download Button! but Will he  press it?
[04:36] <dr_willis> ;)
[04:36] <tds5016> seconds ago. that actually breaks too. haha.
[04:36] <ethana3> anybody have any idea how long I should wait for it to boot up?
[04:36] <dr_willis> ethana3:   checkin #ubuntu-tablet
[04:36] <Oblivion1500> hello, i am having trouble connecting to ssh via my public ip i have put my router in dmz and in my router put my server in dmz so i should be able to access all of its ports
[04:36] <Oblivion1500> http://imgur.com/W4kYm68
[04:36] <ethana3> dr_willis: thanks, will do
[04:36] <DarthEaron> tds5016: can you put the attempt into pastebin?
[04:36] <dr_willis> Oblivion1500:  router in the  dmz? you  got nested routers?
[04:36] <histo> Oblivion1500: if router is in dmz then it will answer port. You still need to port forward since you ahve a router
[04:37] <histo> double nat
[04:37] <tds5016> shttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1704058/
[04:37] <Oblivion1500> really, well let me do that
[04:37] <tds5016> DarthEaron: ^
[04:37] <histo> dr_willis: Most likely dsl/cable model > router > pC
[04:37] <tds5016> sorry about that.
[04:37] <tds5016> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1704058/
[04:37] <DarthEaron> tds5016: also could you please put DarthEaron: in the begining of your messages, it makes things easier for me
[04:37] <tgm4883> shttp? is that like a more quiet version of http?
[04:37] <dr_willis> i  never  noticed a dmz setting needed for  the router.
[04:37] <tds5016> DarthEaron: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1704058/
[04:38] <tds5016> ;-)
[04:38] <tds5016> tgm4883: or it's a really crappy version ;-)
[04:38] <dr_willis> when using 2 routers. i put the 2nd one one in some sort  of hub/switch  mode.. i  recall
[04:38] <histo> dr_willis: I use it to avoid a double nat. At one location the DSL modem puts thte internal router in the DMZ then I can control port forwarding on the internal router instead oon the dsl modem.
[04:38] <tgm4883> dr_willis, maybe the first router is some crappy ISP provided one that has the built in modem
[04:39] <dr_willis> ive never really used DSL/ADSL
[04:39] <Wolfgang__> Do i create a hard drive
[04:39] <Wolfgang__> ?
[04:39] <histo> dr_willis: Same thing for cable modem.
[04:39] <dr_willis> Wolfgang__:  do you  recall us mentionging how valueable reading the vbox manual  is?
[04:39] <Wolfgang__> Yes but that requires brain power
[04:40] <dr_willis> Wolfgang__:   you  want to install a virtual os into  a virtual machine.. you  need a virtual  hd.. .... its not virtual rocket-surgery
[04:40] <tgm4883> lol
[04:40] <Wolfgang__> Thank you!
[04:40] <DarthEaron> someone correct me if im wrong please because i lack confidence on this. but the errors your getting keep saying to use -tvv option so i think you should try sudo apt-get update -tvv
[04:40] <dr_willis> howeger there is a  real  virtual box manual  at their homepage.
[04:40] <tds5016> DarthEaron: I think the issue is with my firewall possibly. haha.
[04:40] <Wolfgang__> Do i want disk image or?
[04:41] <tds5016> what is tvv?
[04:41] <DarthEaron> tds5016: how would that make a difference?
[04:41] <dr_willis> when in doubt.. hit next...
[04:41] <tds5016> if it works, no. haha. but it would be nice to know what is broken :-)
[04:41] <tgm4883> Wolfgang__, https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch05.html
[04:41] <dr_willis> there is a #virtualbox support channel  i  belive
[04:41] <kmentat> Ok, so I think update-initramfs is hanging
[04:41] <dr_willis> they will proberly  say to  read the manual also...
[04:41] <Oblivion1500> histo: so forwarded both the modem to the router and the router to the server on port 22
[04:42] <tds5016> DarthEaron: still no love with -tvv
[04:42] <dr_willis> because to be honest.. we dont have the vbox dialogs/wizard memorized...
[04:42] <tds5016> DarthEaron: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1704084/
[04:42] <dr_willis> they  have a help button on them dont they?
[04:43] <xadin> anyone here have one of the korean monitors? shimian, catleap, etc. And has it working with nvidia twinview ?
[04:43] <xadin> I have been able to get the 2560x1440 shimian working fine but the 21" 1680x1050 monitor beside it will only run in 800x600, been messing with xorg.conf to no avail
[04:44] <tds5016> is there a way to ignore checksum?
[04:44] <dr_willis> xadin:  evenif you just plug it in by itself?
[04:44] <tds5016> with apt-get?
[04:44] <histo> Oblivion1500: You have a doulbe nat situation.
[04:44] <xadin> both work fine by themselves
[04:44] <xadin> I want dual working
[04:44] <dr_willis> xadin:  as a test.. reduce the res on the other  monitor.. see if  you  can then up the 2nd one..
[04:45] <Oblivion1500> histo: do you want me to take off the dmz?
[04:45] <dr_willis> xadin:  ive seen some limited  cards not able to handle Huge dual monitor setuos
[04:45] <Oblivion1500> or what do you mean?
[04:45] <histo> Oblivion1500: What I usually do to fix it if you can't put your modem in bridged mode and allow your router to handle the ocnneciton you need to: On the modem put the router in the DMZ also, then on the router forward ports to your internal ip of server.
[04:45] <xadin> it works in windows just fine
[04:45] <xadin> you're saying reduce the 2560x1440 monitor?
[04:45] <Guest7464> Could any body do me a favour?
[04:45] <dr_willis> xadin:  and you are using thee windows drivers there also...  which are  not the same
[04:45] <Guest7464> My sd
[04:45] <tds5016> DarthEaron: any other ideas?
[04:45] <kmentat> Guest7464, depends on the favor
[04:46] <dr_willis> xadin:  try  differnt res;'s - i recall seeing this issue once  a few months back.
[04:46] <Guest7464> my sd card cann't be recongnised
[04:46] <Guest7464> system is 12.04 lts
[04:46] <xadin> I have been trying but no matter what rez I set the 21" to it defaults to 800x600
[04:46] <DarthEaron> tds5016: take a look at pastebin.com/8nk6cq8
[04:46] <DarthEaron> clear
[04:46] <DarthEaron> tds5016: take a look at pastebin.com/8nk6cq8
[04:46] <dr_willis> xadin:  what chipset?
[04:46] <Guest7464> hello
[04:47] <xadin> I can only set the rez in the xorg.conf file, nvidia-settings won't let me choose a rez other than the 2560x1440 which is only for the 27"
[04:47] <Guest7464> kmentnt
[04:47] <xadin> nvidia 560
[04:47] <DarthEaron> tds5016: see if that fits the issue your having
[04:47] <Guest7464> kmentat
[04:47] <xadin> tried a few different monitors
[04:47] <xadin> I mean, drivers
[04:47] <xadin> nvidia, not nouveau
[04:47] <tds5016> unkown paste id
[04:47] <xadin> works fine in nouveau but I need the performance.
[04:47] <dr_willis> xadin:  sounds likesome buggy  drivers or other weirdness...
[04:47] <Oblivion1500> histo: on my modem my router is in dmz and forwarding port 22 to it, in my router my server is in dmz and having port 22 forwarded to it, what needs to be fixed with that? should i take my server out of dmz?
[04:48] <dr_willis> i was playigmn  Team Fortress  2 in Noveau  i  think .. ;)  by mistake the other day
[04:48] <tds5016> DarthEaron: sorry ot rewrite, forgot to add your name... it's an unkown paste id ;-)
[04:48] <Oblivion1500> dmz was only temp untill i figured out the problem anyway
[04:48] <kmentat> Where does grub keep its blacklist?
[04:49] <xadin> can nvidia not do xinerama? does it require twinview?
[04:49] <dr_willis> kmentat:  a blacklist of what>
[04:49] <BHXSpecter> dr_willis: you didn't have any issues with Steam and the error I have? It was installing steam that made me start getting the nouveau2 error
[04:49] <dr_willis> Twinview is Xinerama-supercharged
[04:49] <DarthEaron> tds5016: goto dragonforge.org click on the tab that says help this guy
[04:49] <dr_willis> BHXSpecter:  i had some other steam quirks.. but its working now
[04:49] <kmentat> dr_willis, modules. My update-initramfs hs hanging after adding a certain firmware, and now I'm trying to follow this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2095631
[04:50] <histo> Oblivion1500: on your modem don't forward any ports just put router in DMZ. The on router just forward port 22 to server.  That's it and take server out of dmz
[04:50] <dr_willis> kmentat:  i recall some kernel blacklist options  but i dont  recall  the syntax.. it would be a setting on the kernel line i think  in /etc/default/grub
[04:51] <BHXSpecter> hmm....I had some issues, but it told me to add the x-swat/x-updates to the list and now anything I try to update/upgrade/install/remove gives me the libdrm-nouveau2 error  so I thought I would ask
[04:51] <DarthEaron> how do you make chages to your kernal
[04:51] <kmentat> dr_willis, that's fine, I'm just trying to find incongruities between the modprobe blacklist and the grub blacklist.
[04:52] <kmentat> Well, that was no-go.
[04:52] <DarthEaron> tds5016: anything?
[04:52] <xadin> I found someone with the same issue, same shimian 2560x1440, and same res for second monitor, he describes it here. https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1206170#p1206170
[04:52] <tds5016> doesn't seem to have worked :-(
[04:52] <DarthEaron> did it change the output of apt-get update at all?
[04:53] <xadin> catleap and shimian are the same
[04:54] <DarthEaron> 2wUGTYG>U:Y^9~%TKWEGWF=-------------
[04:54] <xadin> dr_willis: ya he has exactly the same problem.
[04:54] <DarthEaron> sorry guys that was the cat
[04:56] <dr_willis> heh.. silly kitty. this isent reddit
[04:56] <Bray90820> It turns out the current charging bug has been fixed
[04:56] <MrHacks> exit
[04:56] <Oblivion1500_> histo: i did that and im still getting a econnrefused error
[04:57] <IveBeenBit> Why did this not work after I entered the password? I got a "mkdir: missing operand" error:  $ su billgates -c mkdir ./test
[04:57] <magn3ts> Anyone use GLC/Gamecaster? Is it really superior to using a "regular" X-level recording software?
[04:57] <kmentat> Note to self: set up a fresh kernel to compile while I'm at work. This generic 3.5.whatever isn't thrilling me too much right now.
[04:57] <DarthEaron> i use vlc to record my screen, its not too bad
[04:59] <BHXSpecter> didn't know vlc could record the screen....I always used recordmydesktop, but can't install it on my laptop due to the library error I get ..though I do have vlc installed
[05:00] <jpmh> how do I change the descriptions that grub shows for the partitions on boot?
[05:00] <kmentat> OK, dr_willis, in answer to your question: yes, I blacklisted those modules, did an update-initramfs and I still can't use my network card. ssb is still loaded.
[05:00] <AcidRain2012> would it be safe to install directx in wine
[05:00] <AcidRain2012> ?
[05:00] <kmentat> AcidRain2012, it's in a sort of sandbox, so I can't imagine why not.
[05:00] <kmentat> I mean, it's not like DirectX will be running when wine isn't.
[05:01] <BHXSpecter> depends on the DX version as I've got errors about OS not being supported
[05:01] <dr_willis> it may be built into the kernel.. but that would be weird kmentat
[05:01] <AcidRain2012> kmentat, but my goal is to use directx to create a program that will poll ip addresses to get game data. so im kinda creating a program that needs to be ran 24/7
[05:01] <dr_willis> wine has its own directx
[05:01] <kmentat> dr_willis, suddenly compiling a whole new kernel from source doesn't seem totally crazy.
[05:01] <DarthEaron> dr_willis: how to your mess with the kernal?
[05:01] <dr_willis> or use the winetricks tool
[05:02] <kmentat> Can I cross-compile a Linux kernel from within OS X?
[05:02] <dr_willis> DarthEaron: i dont any more
[05:02] <dr_willis> !kernel
[05:02] <Oblivion1500_> histo: is there another answer?
[05:03] <DarthEaron> thanks guys, i just thought that the kernal was something really low level that we did not have contyrol over anymore
[05:05] <kmentat> !kernal
[05:05] <kmentat> !kernal
[05:05] <kmentat> Doesn't know about KERNAL? What a crock. The bot should learn some history ;P
[05:05] <vincentS> could anyone help me with some modules i want loading on boot and making stuff automount http://pastebin.com/SAtCsTMi
[05:05] <Oblivion1500> kernEl?
[05:06] <kmentat> Oblivion1500, KERNAL. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KERNAL
[05:06] <Oblivion1500> lol
[05:07] <dr_willis> Popcorn Kernel
[05:07] <tds5016> what package would install the string library?
[05:07] <DarthEaron> Kernal mustard
[05:07] <tds5016> #include <string> makes my C program explode.
[05:07] <tds5016> haha.
[05:08] <dr_willis> tds5016:   you did install the build-essential package?
[05:08] <tds5016> yeah.
[05:08] <tds5016> that's what's weird.
[05:08] <tds5016> haha.
[05:09] <dr_willis> strings are for lolcats.  But ive no idea..  i  tend to just shotgun install  dev packages  till  i get them all.
[05:10] <Oblivion1500> so nobody here can help me with my ssh issue?
[05:11] <tds5016> dr_willis: what dev packages might have it?
[05:11] <Oblivion1500> i guess ill just go over to mean old openssh
[05:13] <kmentat> oh ffs
[05:13] <kmentat> I don't even have ncurses?
[05:13] <kmentat> What kind of distro is this?!
[05:15] <vincentS> come on man it comes with gnome what did u expect :P
[05:16] <iceroot> kmentat: install if if you need it
[05:16] <Bray90820> Anyone wanna help me install Florence Virtual Keyboard
[05:17] <kmentat> iceroot, this machine has no network connectivity (the problem I'm trying to fix), and I don't feel like manually chasing down the dependency tree like this is the stone age of package management.
[05:17] <kmentat> I'm going back to trying to patch around this stupid broken module.
[05:18] <iceroot> kmentat: if you have a support question you are welcome to use this channel if you want to troll/flame please dont use this channel
[05:18] <dr_willis> kmentat:  theres not  really any developer packages installed  by  default.
[05:18] <kmentat> dr_willis, yeah, I keep forgetting that...
[05:18] <Starscream59> I was wondering if 13.04 can be installed via wubi?
[05:18] <dr_willis> kmentat:  there are ppa's out  for newer kernels ibelive
[05:18] <kmentat> I got used to FreeBSD and how everything is built from source.
[05:18] <tds5016> this library not existing sucks. haha.
[05:19] <kmentat> ppa?
[05:19] <Wolfgang__> 13.04 is out?
[05:19] <iceroot> Wolfgang__: no
[05:19] <Wolfgang__> ok
[05:19] <MrHacks> Does anyone know how to get Bluetooth setup especially for a GC-WB300D network card? I've been reading on mail-archive there has been some activity with this issue and I would seriously like to use the bluetooth featueres on my WIFI+BT card.
[05:19] <Starscream59> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[05:19] <Wolfgang__> Whats is the difference from lubuntu and ubuntu?
[05:20] <iceroot> Wolfgang__: the desktop, ubuntu is using unity, lubuntu is using lxde which is designed to use on not so powerfull pcs
[05:20] <Wolfgang__> ok
[05:20] <Wolfgang__> What is unity?
[05:21] <iceroot> !unity | Wolfgang__
[05:21] <AcidRain2012> dr_willis, when installing directx, i get an error saying one of the dlls couldnt be loaded
[05:22] <dr_willis> AcidRain2012:  as ffar as i  know   wine  comes  with directx. or you  use the winetricks tools to  instgall  needed dirextx bits.. you DONT run the directx installer in wine
[05:22] <dr_willis> i bet #winehq would  know  more
[05:23] <dr_willis> Unity  can be very slow when used in virtualbox.   but with vm;s its normallybest to  keep  them as light  as possible anyway
[05:23] <Wolfgang__> ok
[05:23] <Wolfgang__> The iso is taking forever. before it finiished earlyer my laptop died
[05:24] <Wolfgang__> So i had to restart
[05:25] <kmentat> Wolfgang__, is a torrent an option?
[05:25] <kmentat> Those are pretty quick, and resume nicely.
[05:25] <Wolfgang__> Yes
[05:25] <kmentat> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[05:25] <Wolfgang__> I dont have utorrent or anything though
[05:26] <MrHacks> !bluetooth
[05:26] <Wolfgang__> im already like half way done
[05:26] <Bray90820> Anyone know how to install Florence Virtual Keyboard
[05:27] <kmentat> Well that was weird. Disk drive for /tmp was not ready...
[05:27] <kmentat> THERE WE GO! Found out my b44 had been blacklisted by *grumblegrumble* 1@#!£ª¨¶ing Broadcom.
[05:27] <demkantor> anyone here know how to add a windows option back into grub? i lost mine and have been trying to get it back for two days, a few here have already tried to help but im still stuck!
[05:28] <demkantor> currently trying to use grub customizer to add it but .... im a noob
[05:28] <MrHacks> The BluetoothSetup page is old
[05:29] <boom0917> whats the most common webpage used to get new themes and icon packages
[05:29] <AcidRain2012> dr_willis, dx9 failed to install properly. i gave up on it. not that big of an issue
[05:30] <karpuragauram> Hey everyone. I shrunk the /home partition from a live CD then tried to boot into my os but getting home not found error and login not happenning. What should I do to set home again to the now shrunk partition
[05:30] <dr_willis> karpuragauram: check its uuid vs whats in fstab
[05:30] <dr_willis> !uuid
[05:31] <iceroot> karpuragauram: have a look at /etc/fstab  there should be a line with a UUID and your home, see the new UUID with "sudo blkid" and enter the new UUID for your home in /etc/fstab
[05:31] <grendal-prime> internal mic fails untell i switch it to mic then back to internal
[05:31] <grendal-prime> grrrr
[05:32] <karpuragauram> Got it
[05:32] <karpuragauram> Trying
[05:32] <demkantor> anyone ever loose option to boot into windows after ubuntu install?
[05:33] <dr_willis> demkantor: its possible grubs confused and not seeing the windows install
[05:33] <karpuragauram> Could I get blkid to gimme the sizes too. It is mixed up so i need to find the crrect juisi
[05:34] <karpuragauram> Uuid
[05:34] <demkantor> dr_willis: yeah i think thats what up, i know windows is still on hard drive but i cant boot to it, ive tried everything the forums have to give to no avail
[05:34] <dr_willis> you could  rerun sudo update-grub if that fails.. add a custome entry in /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[05:34] <surbs> Quantal Quetzal: would it be ok to delete .local/share/Trash/expunged ? it currently contains 8.1GB
[05:35] <dr_willis> its your deleted files
[05:35] <dr_willis> !trash
[05:35] <demkantor> also a few helpfull people have tried to help me as weel, tried the update-grub, nothing helps, tried setboot+something, tried the boo repair
[05:35] <dr_willis> empty the trash via the filemanager is a better way
[05:36] <demkantor> dr_willis: how do i add custom entry?
[05:36] <demkantor> im trying to do just that with grub customizer right now i think...
[05:36] <dr_willis> edit the file i gave earlier...
[05:36] <surbs> dr_willis, does sudo update-frub attempt to empty the trash via the filemanager?
[05:36] <surbs> update-grub*
[05:37] <dr_willis> surbs: err no. why would it touch user files
[05:37] <surbs> dr_willis, so what is meant by via filemanager?
[05:38] <dr_willis> the default desktop filemanager you normally use when you click on a folder....
[05:38] <dr_willis> thats nautilus btw..
[05:39] <surbs> dr_willis, ok truth thats what i thought. was checking to make sure that we were on same page! and oh rele thank you will not make mistake again.
[05:40] <dr_willis> not sure how it could get onfused with grub.....
[05:41] <demkantor> i dont see etc/grub, do i have to add that folder into /etc ?
[05:41] <dr_willis> demkantor:  i think i said   grub.d /
[05:41] <surbs> dr_willis, <--- becuase you are not tagging before your posts, was unable to distinguish who you were talking to.
[05:41] <butts> Hello! I'm having an issue I don't have in Windows. My trackpad seems laggy when I use it but my USB mouse I plug in is perfectly smooth. Any ideas?
[05:41] <demkantor> im blind.
[05:41]  * MrHacks sighs because he will never get his bluetooth controller set up for steam because the bluetooth documentation is older than his grandma
[05:42] <dr_willis> gamepads for tf2? ;)
[05:43] <butts> I'm using Ubuntu 12.10 with everything updated as well
[05:43] <demkantor> dr_willis: what do i add inside the 40_custom? im new so not sure the exact words to add
[05:43] <dr_willis> demkantor:  add whatever entry would be needed to boot the os you want.. I dont know what a stanza would look like for windows.. you would have to hit up the grub docs/guides.forums for that
[05:44] <MrHacks> sixaxis. I just need to figure out why this m****f***ing GC-WB300D network device doesn't show up on 12.10 neither this targus bluetooth dongle
[05:44] <MatthewL> dr_willis: can I ask about ubottu?
[05:44] <demkantor> dr_willis: thanks, ill dig up that forum!
[05:45] <dr_willis> all i know about the bot.. would basically be at the bots homepage.  MatthewL
[05:45] <MatthewL> Thanks!
[05:46] <surbs> dr_willis, thank you for the help, why did 8GB get moved their? is there a way to prevent having files moved there after being deleted?
[05:46] <surbs> dr_willis, there*
[05:47] <MatthewL> How are Debian packages put together as opposed to rpm?
[05:47] <MatthewL> And where are babies made from?
[05:49] <MatthewL> Why is Ubuntu Debian based? Philosophy or technical?
[05:51] <dr_willis> surbs:  thats the function of the trashcan... just like in windows
[05:51] <wei_> how do I find the repo that libreadline5-dev is hosted at? want to add it to my sources.list
[05:51] <dr_willis> !find libreadline
[05:52] <dr_willis> libreadline5 seems to be in the repos
[05:52] <dr_willis> !info libreadline5
[05:52] <dr_willis> !info libreadline5-dev
[05:52] <wei_> thanks, this is the one I want but I can't find the source: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/libreadline5-dev
[05:52] <surbs> dr_willis, i guess my novice status is showing quite a bit here hahaha. just find it interesting that when something something is deleted it still isn't "fully deleted"? unless ubuntu provides a process to do this?
[05:52] <dr_willis> hmm.  perhaps its a diffent name package for the -devvv
[05:53] <dr_willis> surbs:  that would be the 'emptying the trash via the file manager' that works identically in windows...
[05:53] <MatthewL> Magical bot
[05:53] <dr_willis> there is a way to directly delete i recall.
[05:53] <john__> johncrist1988
[05:53] <dr_willis> or use the command line
[05:53] <john__> Hello everyone
[05:53] <MatthewL> hi
[05:54] <simon> hello
[05:55] <MatthewL> !Info Debian
[05:55] <surbs> dr_willis, so "rm" is sufficient for "fully deleting" files/directories/ect? or is a backup for recovery purposes always going to be stored in the trash?
[05:55] <MatthewL> !info packages
[05:55] <dr_willis> surbs:  theres delete to trashcan tools for the cli if you  want them
[05:55] <dr_willis> rm does not move to the trash
[05:56] <MatthewL> !info ant
[05:56] <MatthewL> !info maven
[05:57] <MatthewL> Wow
[05:58] <MatthewL> !info gcc
[05:58] <lunitik> MatthewL: you can /msg the bot
[05:58] <IdleOne> in fact, it is preferred
[05:59] <MatthewL> Beauty
[06:00] <surbs> dr_willis, ahhh after reading the "man rm" i think im looking to use "shred" instead of "rm."
[06:02] <surbs> dr_willis, thanks once again for the help. your awesome :)
[06:06] <dr_willis> 'secure deletion of stuff you dont want the wife to find' ;)
[06:10] <bartley69> anyone have torrentleech invite?
[06:10] <surbs> dr_willis, hahahaha good thing i wont be married at least 10+ years XD
[06:10] <surbs> dr_willis, am restarting to update
[06:11] <yazrisal> anyone can help me to make my USB tethering work? it keep attempting to reconnect but seems always failed :(
[06:11] <yazrisal> help me straight by teamviewer please
[06:11] <Ceal> fuck you everyone
[06:12] <Ceal> go the hell fucks
[06:12] <BillyZane2> hi
[06:12] <yazrisal> im using 12.10 LTS
[06:12] <BillyZane2> when i'm in terminal, how do i complete a file name before I finish typing it?
[06:13] <BillyZane2> i thought it was tab, but tab is not working
[06:13] <yazrisal> i mean 12.04 LTS
[06:14] <dr_willis> BillyZane2:  it is tab.. if you are using bash
[06:14] <BillyZane2> hey willis!
[06:14] <dr_willis> BillyZane2:  try echo $SHELL
[06:14] <BillyZane2> ok
[06:15] <BillyZane2> i am definitely in bash
[06:15] <BillyZane2> i start by typing the name, in a case sensitive manner, i press tab, no completion. so weird
[06:15] <dr_willis> theres a /etc/bash_completion scriot i  recall thats normally ran by the .profile or .bashrc
[06:15] <BillyZane2> i am using konsole
[06:16] <dr_willis> not weird at all if bash did not  enable the bash_completion
[06:16] <BillyZane2> oh really
[06:16] <BillyZane2> hmmm
[06:16] <dr_willis> the whole bash completion  is a some what recent thing. :)  i  rember  not  having it for years.
[06:16] <dr_willis> then ubuntu i recall  started using it by default
[06:16] <BillyZane2> it's very convenient
[06:17] <dr_willis> check your  .bashrc and .profile and other .* files compared to  whats in /etc/skel   see if they ahve been altered.  or missing
[06:17] <bean> make sure that /etc/bash.bashrc doesn't have the lines about completion commented out
[06:17] <BillyZane2> i don't really need to get this fixed, but i'd like to know why it doesn't work and how to activate it
[06:17] <bean> but that would be very odd.
[06:17] <dr_willis> you are on a normal desktop install and not  a  vps?
[06:17] <BillyZane2> ok, i'll check
[06:17] <dr_willis> there a command/script in /etc/ that bash runs. to enable the feature i recall
[06:17] <lunitik> dr_willis: doesn't really matter if they're missing, if they are it uses the /etc/skel stuff
[06:17] <BillyZane2> in /etc/skel , all i see is one file: examples.desktop
[06:18] <BillyZane2> oh wait
[06:18] <BillyZane2> i see more if i do ls -alh
[06:18] <mao> ?
[06:18] <BillyZane2> there's a .bashrc and a bash .profile
[06:18] <dr_willis> its in .bashrc
[06:18] <dr_willis> look at the file
[06:18] <BillyZane2> err
[06:18] <BillyZane2> yeah
[06:18] <nameless`> hi there
[06:18] <dr_willis>   /etc/bash_completion
[06:19] <tgunr> is it sufficient to determine if a package is installed to use `'which' e.g. `whichaptitude'
[06:19] <nameless`> i was wondering if there exist any handwriting chinese virtual keyboard as in iphone
[06:19] <BillyZane2> hmm...
[06:19] <bean> tgunr, one sec I actually read something about this
[06:19] <BillyZane2> dr_willis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1704530
[06:20] <tgunr> I'm looking at a bash script which needs to find out if a package exists, and install it if not
[06:20] <BillyZane2> what should i be looking for? completion? ....
[06:20] <nameless`> i installed an Ubuntu laptop for my chinese family but they don't know pin yin and they need to write the glyphe
[06:20] <x2xx3x> exit
[06:20] <dr_willis> look at the  last few lines.. its in there BillyZane2
[06:20] <BillyZane2> umm.. dr willis, i know there's a grep | completion i should be using, but i'm not sure how the full syntax goes
[06:20] <dr_willis> no idea why its not enabled.  try source .bashrc and se eif it starts working
[06:20] <yazrisal> hello?
[06:20] <yazrisal> sorry i just reconnect
[06:20] <BillyZane2> i see it dr_willis
[06:21] <yazrisal> please help me to get my USB tethering work
[06:21] <BillyZane2> is it.... cat .bashrc grep| completion
[06:21] <dr_willis> BillyZane2:  could be  somthing else thats not getting ran or some other  chanvge that you did thats  not  running all  the  scripts
[06:21] <xadin> so, fresh install of ubuntu 12.10 on laptop, steam shows up in software center, installs and works. Fresh install of 12.04 on my desktop and steam is missing from the software center, what gives?
[06:21] <dr_willis> BillyZane2:  you  cansee the last paragraph of code in .bashrc looks for  the bash completion stuff.   and  runs it if its seen.  ;)
[06:22] <BillyZane2> dr_willis: i saw it after you pointed it out. how did you know it would be there?
[06:22] <BillyZane2> how do you even know how to find that file
[06:22] <xjdesx> can someone help me
[06:22] <xadin> dr_willis: a guy in #xorg helped me get the video working, the config that guy posted should not have worked for him, all I had to do was set a correct modeline.
[06:22] <xjdesx> please!!!
[06:22] <xadin> these korean monitors rock
[06:22] <dr_willis> BillyZane2:  its been in there for years
[06:22]  * xjdesx pm me if you have time to kill, you know how to install aircrack and you want to make $10 via paypal right now!!
[06:23] <BillyZane2> you are truly gifted. i have so much to learn
[06:23] <dr_willis> BillyZane2:  and those are the standard bash  stgartup files
[06:23] <dr_willis> xjdesx:  download source.. compile source.. run binary
[06:23] <xjdesx> no
[06:23] <xjdesx> doesn't work
[06:23] <BillyZane2> ohh
[06:23] <dr_willis> xjdesx:  send the $$ to an aniumal shelter
[06:23] <xjdesx> i need someone to actually help me. I'm new to linux, new to ubuntu, new to Vmware
[06:24] <dr_willis> xjdesx:  or find a ppa for it
[06:24] <xjdesx> ppa?
[06:24] <Jeruvy> xjdesx you should try #backtrack
[06:24] <dr_willis> running aircrack in vmware? is that even possible?
[06:24] <bean> tgunr, use the "hash" command
[06:24] <bean> like
[06:24] <bean> "hash git"
[06:24] <bean> and check the exit code
[06:24] <tgunr> bean: trying
[06:24] <dr_willis> xjdesx:  you are using ubuntu or backtrack?
[06:24] <BillyZane2> omg... something weird just happened... konsole crashed. and now half my applications are closed
[06:25] <dr_willis> BillyZane2:  if the parent process dies.. so do the childern (launched from it ) processes - mostof the time
[06:26] <Guest59582> hi
[06:26] <BillyZane2> you are awesome, you know that? thanks for all the help over the last few weeks
[06:26] <bean> tgunr, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/592620/check-if-a-program-exists-from-a-bash-script seems to be the best reference on this
[06:26] <xjdesx> ubuntu
[06:26] <xjdesx> 12.0.4
[06:27] <bean> Guest59582, hi
[06:27] <tgunr> I don't see much difference between `hash command; echo $?' and `which command; echo $?'
[06:27] <dr_willis> !find  aircrack
[06:27] <dr_willis> !info  aircrack-ng
[06:27] <dr_willis> aircrack-ng seems to  be in the normal repos xjdesx
[06:27] <dr_willis> sudo  apt-get install aircrack-ng
[06:28] <Jeruvy> it is and it's preinstalled on backtrack, no muss no fuss.
[06:28]  * tgunr wonders why he needs aircrack, its only good for WEP which no one really uses
[06:28] <dr_willis> description says wep/wpa
[06:28] <dr_willis> ;)
[06:28] <tgunr> and yes, you can use backtrack in VM
[06:28] <dr_willis> but can you use aircrqack in a vm
[06:29] <Jeruvy> yep
[06:29] <bean> tgunr, yeah, things i've ready, like that stack overflow ? seem to say its best to use hash tho
[06:29] <tgunr> AKAIK no one has/can crack WPA yet except maybe NSA
[06:29] <dr_willis> or would it be cracking your  virtual  netsork.  ;)
[06:29] <tgunr> ok, will use that for now, thanks bean
[06:31] <xjdesx> deb http://ubuntu2.cica.es/ubuntu/ubuntu/pool/universe/a/aircrack-ng/
[06:32] <xjdesx> how come i cant add that as a source?
[06:32] <xjdesx> i can't add a repo
[06:32] <dr_willis> the  universe repo is one of the default repos.. you just enable it in the software-sources tool
[06:32] <Jeruvy> how are you doing it?
[06:32] <dr_willis> !universe
[06:33] <xjdesx> what??
[06:33] <xjdesx> can someone PM me please
[06:33] <xjdesx> i really will pay $10 for a tutorial
[06:33] <dr_willis> software-sources.. click to enable universe
[06:33] <xjdesx> but your undivided attention
[06:33] <Jeruvy> xjdesx you need to make more sense
[06:33] <tgunr> bean: ok hash is correct as a builtin as I need to chect the exit staus
[06:33] <wiggmpk> tgunr: do you have any source to that claim? I thought WPA and WPA2 were both crackable for along time now
[06:33] <dr_willis> xjdesx:  you tried a simple 'sudo apt-get install aircrack-ng' yet?
[06:33] <tgunr> $100 might generate some interest
[06:34] <andrew> hi
[06:34] <Jeruvy> xjdesx you could consider listening and following some of the good advice you've been given for free :)
[06:35] <dr_willis> actually a 'sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install aircrack-ng' would be better
[06:35] <xjdesx> i have tried EVERY tutorial
[06:35] <xjdesx> I've been working on this for a few days
[06:35] <dr_willis> xjdesx:  i dont know whatg sort of tutoriual you  need.. you just install it same as you would any other packabge
[06:35] <xjdesx> i even tried editing the common.stk
[06:35] <dr_willis> its in the default repositories
[06:35] <Jeruvy> xjdesx but you haven't told us what your problem is'
[06:35] <xjdesx> it doesn't work
[06:35] <dr_willis> so  we have no  idea what you  have been doing for 2 days
[06:35] <xjdesx> i get so many errors
[06:35] <tgunr> wiggmpk: negative, big difference on how the two work, WEP can be cracked easily notso WPA, unless things have changed in  the past few month, I was looking at it last fall for a client
[06:35] <xjdesx> hold on..how do I enable repos?
[06:36] <xjdesx> in terminal
[06:36] <xjdesx> how do i install what i need for adding repos
[06:36] <xjdesx> cus in Ubuntu software mananger it does not work!
[06:36] <dr_willis> xjdesx:  edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file and uncomment the ones you  need
[06:36] <wiggmpk> tgunr: I would agree with you if it was WPA-Enterprise, but PSK encryption doesnt take much.. just time
[06:36] <dr_willis> xjdesx:   if your software manager  is  not working.. then  you got deeper issues..
[06:37] <dr_willis> xjdesx:  and we gave you the exact commands for the terminal to install the package
[06:37] <xjdesx> i've done all those cmds
[06:37] <xjdesx> im sorry for bugging you guys i know it's annoying being on the receiving end
[06:37] <xjdesx> i've done sudo apt-get install ..
[06:37] <dr_willis> xjdesx:  tried --> 'sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install aircrack-ng' and tell us error  messages would be a good starting point
[06:37] <xjdesx> wget http://www...
[06:37] <Jeruvy> xjdesx if they didn't work pastebin the errors so we can help
[06:37] <xjdesx> ok
[06:38] <dr_willis> wget? what wget?
[06:38] <xjdesx> should I be root?
[06:38] <xjdesx> or my own user
[06:38] <dr_willis> note the use of SUDO....
[06:38] <tgunr> geez
[06:38] <dr_willis> you  use sudo  to gain root rights as needed
[06:38] <xjdesx> dr_willis,  i'm new to linux
[06:38] <xjdesx> total noob
[06:38] <xjdesx> ease up
[06:38] <dr_willis> xjdesx:  so we have to  wonder why you are wanting aircrack then...
[06:39] <tgunr> yep
[06:39] <dr_willis> isent the universe repo  enabled by default on 12.04+ ?
[06:39] <xjdesx> B/c I just moved into a new apartment and i can't get into the router to open ports formy xbox and amillion other devices
[06:39] <tozen> xjdesx: if u r noob so what 4 you trying to crack wifi?
[06:39] <xjdesx> i have no access to router
[06:39] <wiggmpk> dr_willis: it was for me
[06:39] <xjdesx> they wont give me password, and believe me i'm really good w/ comps w windows
[06:39] <dr_willis> so on a clean new instgall.. the 'sudo apt-get install aircrack-ng' should just work
[06:40] <xjdesx> i know how to bypass stuff, get login info, etc
[06:40] <tgunr> xjdesx: go get a bottle of wine, settle down and study the subject
[06:40] <xjdesx> how do i do a clean install? how do i remove everything related to aircrack
[06:41] <xjdesx> tgunr, I'm going to. The problem is, I think my linux is messed up. It's not on a disc, i'm using VMware and i just feel like it wasnt properly installed
[06:41] <dr_willis> xjdesx:   when you first install - the universe repo should be  enabled and those commands  should just work.. whatever tutorials you  have followed  may havce broken things.. we  dont kno w what they did
[06:41] <tgunr> xjdesx: askubuntu.com, google, stackoverflow all are at your siposal
[06:41] <xjdesx> i have repos installed
[06:41] <dr_willis> xjdesx:  perhaps a clean install to a new vmware session would be the  best place to  start
[06:41] <wiggmpk> xjdesx: and you realize what your doing is most probably illegal right?
[06:41] <xjdesx> it just all of a sudden wont let me  add new ones
[06:41]  * tgunr is no longer interested
[06:42] <xjdesx> i'm not doing it to "hack" im doing it just to have access to my router that I pay for monthly
[06:42] <dr_willis> i suggest a cleannew install in a new vm session, then try the commands gaven.
[06:42] <xjdesx> k
[06:42] <dr_willis> then come back with any error messages
[06:42] <xjdesx> im gonna re-install
[06:42] <xjdesx> ok
[06:42] <xjdesx> thank u
[06:42] <dr_willis> and read the ubuntu  manual while you install
[06:42] <dr_willis> !manual | Xjs|moonshine
[06:42] <dr_willis> oops
[06:42] <dr_willis> he left
[06:42] <FloodBot1> dr_willis: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:43] <tozen> :)
[06:43] <dr_willis> its amazeing the things people think they  need to  do.. must be  windows mindset.
[06:43] <tgunr> eighth day wonder if you ask me dr
[06:43] <wiggmpk> I don't get how cracking a wifi password would give him access to forward ports
[06:43] <dr_willis> wiggmpk:  me either. ;)
[06:43] <dr_willis> of course.. aircrack has been ported to other os's i  imagine  also..
[06:44] <dr_willis> im still not sure how aircrack in a vm gets info from the wireless network..
[06:44] <Ademan> I'm trying to get a USB wifi adapter working because my internal is dead... I have the hardware switch OFF, because having it on causes some sort of short and my laptop hard powers off... However because of that network manager thinks that the USB wifi dongle should be disabled as well! How do I beat that thing into line?
[06:44] <tozen> dr_willis: what i know isairkack-ng doesnt works properly under win os
[06:44] <tgunr> wiggmpk: i don't have my notes on the subject but if WPA/WPA2 can be cracked I'm sure the gates of hell would be opened
[06:45] <wiggmpk> tozen: probably because Windows drivers wont support packet injection
[06:45] <wiggmpk> tgunr: quick google search can give you more than a few links on the subject
[06:45] <wiggmpk> tgunr: I've never personally accomplished it.. only exploiting WPS bugs
[06:47] <Vivekananda> Hey everyone. Just starting the net upgrade to lucid. It is telling me that it can take a couple of hours!! Also can I choose to install lubntu right now rather than unity for 12.04
[06:47] <Vivekananda> upgrade to precise pangolin sorry
[06:48] <Ademan> also rfkill doesn't report the USB wifi device as being blocked (hard or soft)
[06:48] <the_dark_knight> Hi, I am using "vim -O file1 file2" functionality to open two files into a single vim window instance. I wanted to scroll both the files simultaneously. I searched it on internet and foud ":set scrollbind and :set noscrollbind" to enable and disable it. But this doesn't work. Why? please help.
[06:48] <Vivekananda> dr_willis: I got back on and things are working ok after the shrink. NOw trying the upgrade
[06:48] <Ademan> the_dark_knight: you'll have way better luck in #vim
[06:49] <Ademan> the_dark_knight: I think that's specific enough of a question there's little hope of getting help here
[06:49] <Ademan> why do you want to scroll them simultaneously though? are you comparing them?
[06:49] <Ademan> cause there's :diffthis if you are
[06:49] <Vivekananda> Should I start the upgrade ?? I am waiting for someone to comment before I do
[06:50] <Vivekananda> Ademan: any comments ?? dr_willis still around ??
[06:50] <rtp4> i have problem with connecting to a web service (soap) on the network from ubuntu, its working on a windows os
[06:51] <rtp4> any idea why is that happening ?
[06:51] <Ademan> Vivekananda: the only way I can think of is to remove ubuntu-desktop meta-package and install in its place lubuntu-desktop, then do the upgrade. But I would recommend keeping a fairly "standard" software loadout for upgrades...
[06:52] <Ademan> rtp4: if networking is working, there's no reason why a soap request would be different, what's the service?
[06:52] <the_dark_knight> Ademan: How do I undo :diffthis
[06:53] <Ademan> rtp4: and what error are you getting, how are you accessing the service? etc etc
[06:53] <Vivekananda> Ademan: Then I proceed with it and later change things. :) I also want to clean up the system as it is taking 10 gigs now whearas it started with 4 ~5. Any ways to accomplish that?? Also I would like to try libreoffice. will that automatically replace oo that I have here ?
[06:53] <rtp4> am able to reach the host from my browser and the soap request is working when i try from soapui
[06:53] <rtp4> am getting timeout
[06:53] <rtp4> i think
[06:53] <rtp4> since its taking long and then giving me an error
[06:53] <rtp4> the problem is with php soap call
[06:54] <rtp4> but am sure the php is correct because its working on my co-worker
[06:54] <rtp4> which uses windows os
[06:54] <Ademan> Vivekananda: I believe that ubuntu-desktop in precise should include libreoffice so it should be installed
[06:54] <dominic_> rtp4 how are connecting to the host? by ip address? or domain?
[06:55] <dominic_> how are you*
[06:55] <son_> hey guys do I need a bind server for the mail server?
[06:55] <Ademan> Vivekananda: sudo apt-get autoremove # this will remove unneeded packages, I don't know how much space that will reclaim for you though
[06:55] <rtp4> by ip
[06:55] <robotnut> hi all
[06:55] <the_dark_knight> Ademan: How do I undo :diffthis ?
[06:55] <Ademan> son_: I don't believe so but you need an MX record somewhere
[06:55] <son_> I already have a MX record
[06:56] <Vivekananda> Ademan: already tried and not much help :(. But is okay. Am upgrading now
[06:56] <dr_willis> Vivekananda:  im not even sure what you  are doing. ;)
[06:56] <son_> but I always get an error saying status=bounced
[06:56] <rtp4> so dominic any idea why is this happenening ?
[06:56] <Ademan> the_dark_knight: :diffoff
[06:56] <Ademan> the_dark_knight: I didn't remember, I just went to :h diffthis   and it was below
[06:57] <Vivekananda> dr_willis : lol  ok . I had less space on my root partition so I created more by shrinking the one right next to it which was the  / home. Now with enough space on root I am starting the upgrade to precise
[06:57] <dominic_> hmm seems like this is not a networking issue rtp4..your calling it from php right? hmm can you please somehow tell us what is the error message?
[06:57] <Ademan> rtp4: are the computers on the same network? You'll need the exact error to correctly diagnose this
[06:57] <son_> Ademan will you help me?
[06:58] <Ademan> son_: sorry, I don't have an answer
[06:58] <rtp4> yes they are on the same network
[06:58] <Ademan> son_: what's the body of the rejection email?
[06:58] <Ademan> son_: paste it at pastebin.ca or something
[06:59] <rtp4> when i use nusoap i get this error "HTTP Error: Unsupported HTTP response status 303 See Other (soapclient->response has contents of the response)"
[06:59] <son_> ok wait
[06:59] <linda666> hi... im having problems with my laptop's network driver. my laptop is lenovo G480. im using ubuntu 12.04. i have already followed this: http://pastebin.com/L8QhmJRn but still im facing problems, and i cant connect using cable. and sometimes my laptop hangs which based on logs i guess is caused by netwwork.
[07:00] <Vivekananda> dr_willis: My stance now ?? any clearer :)
[07:00] <Ademan> rtp4: 303 is a redirect, what service is this?
[07:01] <dr_willis> well i got some real work to do... bbl
[07:01] <son_> Ademan here it its http://pastebin.com/embed_js.php?i=hbcKLsfi
[07:02] <rtp4> Ademan, what do you mean what service is this ?
[07:02] <the_dark_knight> Ademan: thanks
[07:03] <Ademan> son_: hrm, that's odd. You put in placeholders for user@yahoo.com etc right?
[07:03] <Ademan> rtp4: what service are you accessing?
[07:03] <son_> yes
[07:03] <son_> do you have any idea what my error is?
[07:03] <son_> I already contacted godaddy for that issue
[07:03] <son_> but still no reply
[07:04] <Ademan> son_: it sort of sounds like a whitelist issue. google smtp 553 though, that's all I'm doing
[07:04] <Ademan> the_dark_knight: np
[07:04] <rtp4> Ademan, am trying to call a method  ( http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14997805/php-soapclient-timeout-ubuntu )
[07:05] <Ademan> rtp4: right, what service are you calling the method on? Is this custom?
[07:05] <rtp4> Ademan, the webservice is custom, its java web service
[07:06] <rtp4> Ademan, but the client is php
[07:07] <Ademan> rtp4: does the client run on your computer, or is it on another server?
[07:08] <rtp4> Ademan, the client is on my pc and the webservice is on the network
[07:09] <rtp4> the webservice in on another pc on the network
[07:09] <Ademan> rtp4: you said it's written in php, do you have a web server running on your PC for it?
[07:10] <maman_> #update repository
[07:10] <maman_> help me
[07:10] <Ademan> maman_: what is your question?
[07:10] <maman_> #ubunti
[07:12] <rtp4> Ademan, yeah i  have apache2 running
[07:12] <cfhowlett> maman_, Miss Cleo has the day off.  Please ask your question so we know what you want help with.
[07:12] <maman_> how to install theme on ubuntu
[07:12] <maman_> how to install theme on ubuntu
[07:12] <Ademan> cfhowlett: had no idea she used ubuntu!
[07:13] <Ademan> :-p
[07:13] <maman_> newbie
[07:13] <cfhowlett> maman_, use Ubuntu Software Center to install themes
[07:13] <maman_> heeh
[07:13] <maman_> oh ,,
[07:13] <maman_> good
[07:14] <Ademan> rtp4: can you put some logging code in the php to find out the exact error?
[07:14] <maman_> install VGA Sis
[07:14] <maman_> install VGA Sis
[07:14] <rtp4> Ademan, what should i log ?
[07:15] <robotnut> anyone have a simple named.conf how to walkthrough for bind 9.8.1 - btw already tried the bind channel
[07:16] <maman_> ademan_ I am not too fluent in English
[07:16] <maman_> ademan_ I am not too fluent in English
[07:16] <Ademan> maman_: what language?
[07:16] <maman_> indonesia
[07:16] <maman_> indonesia
[07:16] <Ademan> !indonesia | maman_
[07:17] <stuck_> I am having a weird problem, I can't seem to connect to IRC with either xchat or smuxi. On a whim, I tried connecting via a web client, and was able to get in
[07:18] <Ademan> stuck_: freenode is now requiring SASL for certain IP address ranges, that bit me the other day
[07:18] <Ademan> that might be what's going on?
[07:18] <stuck_> Please translate that french into english
[07:19] <stuck_> What should I do?
[07:19] <stuck_> How do I modify my irc clients so they can do this SASL thing?
[07:20] <MatthewL> !info iptables
[07:20] <Ademan> stuck_: first, what happens when you try to connect to freenode?
[07:21] <maman_> help me
[07:21] <maman_> help me
[07:21] <stuck_> It keeps on searching servers, trying different ports and stuff
[07:21] <robotnut> google
[07:22] <stuck_> Odd thing, it  seems that when I am connected via this web client, I was then able to connect via my installed clients
[07:22] <maman_> tolong saya
[07:22] <maman_> tolong saya
[07:22] <Ademan> !indonesia | maman_
[07:23] <stuck_> Why would being logged in via a web client allow me to log in via installed clients, when i have tried countless times before without webclient unsuccessfully
[07:24] <cfhowlett> stuck_, just for fun: install the xchat addon to firefox and see if you can get it that way...
[07:25] <stuck_> I was unable to find xchat in addons via the addon search function, it found other irc clients, but not that one
[07:25] <cfhowlett> stuck_, sorry.  chatzilla is there
[07:26] <cfhowlett> stuck_, as is a freenode irc client
[07:26] <stuck_> Ok, I will install chatzilla
[07:29] <stuck_> hmm, the download seems stuck, the progress bar hasn't budged a inch
[07:29] <cfhowlett> stuck_, patience
[07:29] <stuck_> You mean even though the progress bar is completely empty, it could be fine?
[07:30] <maman_> hey
[07:30] <SaiPhen> hi
[07:30] <cfhowlett> stuck_, look around and see if there's an approval tab or pop-up requiring your input ...
[07:30] <cfhowlett> SaiPhen, greetings
[07:30] <cfhowlett> maman_, hmmm?
[07:30] <maman_> your name
[07:30] <maman_> heheh
[07:30] <stuck_> None
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[07:31] <SaiPhen> cfhowlett, how are you?
[07:31] <stuck_> minimed windows and brought em back, and nothing on task bar,
[07:31] <stuck_> *minimized
[07:31] <maman_> fine
[07:31] <maman_> hehe
[07:31] <cfhowlett> stuck_, are you at school or work?  someplace where policies may be blocking your access?
[07:31] <cfhowlett> SaiPhen, good.  what's your ubuntu question?
[07:31] <stuck_> no, home, private ISP
[07:32] <pishkur> question, i have the login disabled upon booting into ubuntu...after a minute or so of being "in" the system, I get a popup saying my login keyring didnt get unlocked or something...what's that all about?
[07:32] <SaiPhen> dont' have one... was just saying hi to everyone
[07:32] <cfhowlett> stuck_, restart FF and failing that reboot ubuntu then run apt-get updates
[07:32] <xiambax> Ubuntu needs to get into the hardware game, now.
[07:32] <xiambax> Microsoft is in!
[07:33] <xiambax> I want to head the department!
[07:33] <maman_> rufus
[07:33] <stuck_> cfhowlett, restart ff for getting chatzilla?
[07:33] <maman_> hi ,, help me
[07:33] <maman_> hi ,, help me
[07:33] <pishkur> anyone?
[07:34] <cfhowlett> stuck_, yes.
[07:34] <maman_> malas ah
[07:34] <cfhowlett> xiambax, please take this discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic so we can keep the support channel ... supportive
[07:34] <aeon-ltd> xiambax: i'm not sure how rich shuttleworth is, but i don't think they can just copy google and sell devices at near loss/no profit
[07:35] <maman_> ok sip
[07:36] <pishkur> cfhowlett, any ideas?
[07:36] <cfhowlett> pishkur, over my head.  osrry.
[07:36] <stuck_> cfhowlett is installing chatzilla that useful for determing why my regular installed clients are having issues? BTW, I shut down Xchat and smuxi when they were connected, then restarted xchat and tried connecting again, and its doing it again
[07:37] <stuck_> Endless "* Connection failed. Error: Network is unreachable  Cycling to next server in FreeNode..."
[07:37] <stuck_> But somehow connecting here, allowed me to connect there
[07:38] <stuck_> but it was apparently the act of connecting, not being connected.
[07:38] <cfhowlett> stuck_, on the theory that xchat was blocked as an app or that xchats defaults ports were blocked, i suggested chatzilla to see if a non-web based irc client could connect ... if so, you've got a setting somewhere in your system blocking access.  Ports?  I don't know.
[07:39] <stuck_> I have lots of windows up with firefox, how can I restart it and keep those windows?
[07:39] <stuck_> without restarting my PC
[07:39] <cfhowlett> stuck_, save the open tabs
[07:39] <cfhowlett> stuck_, bookmark all tabs
[07:39] <stuck_> AS a session? Any way to avoid that?
[07:40] <stuck_> I mean just to have it restart in the same way as when I restart my PC?
[07:42] <cfhowlett> stuck_, to retain the tabs you currently have open in FF?  You've got to save them somehow ...
[07:42] <cfhowlett> stuck_, or am I misunderconstruing what you're saying
[07:42] <linda666> hi... im having problems with my laptop's network driver. my laptop is lenovo G480. im using ubuntu 12.04. i have already followed this: http://pastebin.com/L8QhmJRn but still im facing problems, and i cant connect using cable. and sometimes my laptop hangs which based on logs i guess is caused by netwwork.
[07:43] <stuck_> When I restart my PC, all my current tabs autoreload when I start FF, is there a way to get that without reloading my PC?
[07:43] <cristian_c> Hi
[07:43] <cristian_c> I can't browse from pc to my android device via bluetooth
[07:44] <cristian_c> *into
[07:44] <cristian_c> I've found 'Browse Files on Device'
[07:44] <stuck_> cfhowlett: get what I mean?
[07:44] <dr_willis> cristian_c: using  the vaious wifi stuff on android would be much faster then bluetooth
[07:44] <cristian_c> but I get an error
[07:45] <dr_willis> like airdroid or the ssh or samba servers
[07:46] <cristian_c> dr_willis, I'm not looking for speed
[07:46] <cfhowlett> stuck_, so you want certain tabs to pop-up in FF ... it's in FF settings
[07:47] <stuck_> cfhowlett: BTW, when it cycles to next server to try its the IP that changes, not the port
[07:47] <stuck_> cfhowlett: No, I want my current tabs to pop up
[07:48] <cristian_c> dr_willis, I'm searching a local adn simple connection between two bluetooth devices
[07:48] <cristian_c> *and
[07:50] <cfhowlett> stuck_, FF preferences Startup When FF starts show my windows and tabs from last time
[07:50] <makara> i want LibreOffice to break a word over the line without hyphenation. Possible? (There's noone in #libreoffice today)
[07:50] <leaf______> Hello, running 12.04, need to know the default permissions on the passwd and shadow files, thanks
[07:50] <cfhowlett> makara, probably.  Check LO settings & preferences
[07:51] <makara> cfhowlett, done. Nothing to report.
[07:52] <stuck_> cfhowlett: Already set to that, but how can I restart FF without clicking the little x in the corner?
[07:52] <stuck_> since I have multiple FF windows
[07:53] <cfhowlett> stuck_, set preferences to open new TABS not new WINDOWS
[07:54] <stuck_> cfhowlett: I want multiple FF windows, I got 3 of them with multiple tabs within. So how can I restart firefox without restarting my PC?
[07:54] <iter> you can kill the process and then relaunch stuck
[07:54] <iter> ff should restore your tabs/windows
[07:54] <cfhowlett> stuck_, you 've got multiple instances of FF running.  quick kill is to run a terminal: killall firefox
[07:55] <dr_willis> is each window an instance? ive never noticed
[07:55] <iter> I think not acutally
[07:56] <iter> I seem to only have one firefox process on the work pc
[07:56] <stuck_> cfhowlett: only way? OK, brb
[07:56] <cfhowlett> I ran another FF and now have 2 processes
[07:57] <stuck_> cfhowlett: BTW, chatzilla finally switched to saying "error downloading" do you still want me to restart FF to try to install it?
[07:57] <cfhowlett> stuck_, I'm inclined to say that so long as you have IRC, even if web based, smile and move on ...
[07:58] <dr_willis> and get a better irc client...  ;-)
[07:58] <iter> yep time to upgrade to irssi
[07:58] <stuck_> cfhowlett: Seems a second try installing chatzilla worked, no restart necessary, I want to use my installed clients anyway, so if you would please help me figure out what is going on here
[07:58] <cfhowlett> dr_willis, weird error.  Xchat wouldn't connect but web-based IRC would ...
[07:58] <dr_willis> bbl
[07:59] <stuck_> cfhowlett: restarting FF to finalize chatzilla instal
[07:59] <dr_willis> hmm odd.
[07:59] <cfhowlett> stuck_, ok
[08:00] <torkildr_> thiago: Sharing the git index between OS's is asking for trouble.
[08:01] <stuck_> I missed the last thing you said
[08:02] <stuck_> I have chatzilla installed, now how do I use it?
[08:02] <cfhowlett> stuck_, join freenode network then join #ubuntu
[08:04] <stuck_> I meant how, but I figured it out
[08:04] <stuck2> Ok, chatzilla works
[08:04] <stuck2> Got any better idea about why the regular installed clients aren't working?
[08:07] <psichas> DoH!
[08:07] <Rosenzweig> Is there an easy way to restart the default touchpad driver on ubuntu?
[08:07] <Rosenzweig> It's spazzing out.
[08:07] <Rosenzweig> I can't highlight anything, I can't maximize windows with a double click.
[08:08] <Rosenzweig> It's acting funky.
[08:08] <Rosenzweig> I can't click and drag.
[08:08] <stuck2> cfhowlett:   Ok, chatzilla works Got any better idea about why the regular installed clients aren't working?
[08:08] <cfhowlett> stuck2, gotta be a setting issue is my theory.  Others have suggested you use a different IRC client.  Look in software center and see if you find one you like.  If same error/behavior comes up, it's either YOUR settings or a connection setting/block/error with your router I would guess
[08:09] <stuck2> cfhowlett: I am having trouble with two different IRC clients, xchat, and smuxi, I did mention this before
[08:09] <stuck2> cfhowlett: should I install a third? If so what?
[08:10] <iter> try this first stuck2
[08:10] <iter> open a terminal and run 'telnet irc.freenode.com 6667'
[08:12] <cfhowlett> iter, doesn't connect for me ... it's going down a list of ip's now
[08:13] <iter> you get a response though
[08:13] <iter> we're seeing if he's firewalled off or what
[08:13] <stuck2> iter: "Trying 32.1.6.176..." I assume it will eventually go down the list of ips
[08:13] <stuck2> I don't have any firewalls installed
[08:14] <stuck2> Still  "Trying 32.1.6.176..."
[08:14] <iter> well you didn't get a response
[08:14] <iter> so something is preventing that connection
[08:14] <stuck2> OK, so how do I check what?
[08:14] <iter> you should see trying xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
[08:14] <iter> connected to chat.freenode.net
[08:14] <cfhowlett> iter, same thing here.  My FW are defaulted and unconfigured ...
[08:15] <stuck2> iter: Saying something is preventing that connection, without giving me a means to find out what, isn't particularly useful
[08:16] <iter> well, that really makes me want to continue to help you out there stuck!
[08:16] <stuck2> iter: I am sorry that offended you somehow, I did not mean to offend or see how it could offend.
[08:16] <iter> all your other network connectivity works as far as you can tell right?
[08:17] <stuck2> iter: well I have had connectivity problem to a specific flash game server
[08:17] <stuck2> but only with that one game, but its a real head scratcher why
[08:18] <iter> who is your isp
[08:18] <stuck2> qwest
[08:19] <stuck2> Wait, they go by a new name, i forget it
[08:19] <stuck2> why?
[08:20] <stuck2> iter: ?
[08:21] <iter> wondering if they are blocking outbound irc traffic
[08:21] <stuck2> iter: And browser & plugin clients wouldn't be effected by such a block?
[08:22] <stuck2> *affect
[08:22] <iter> depends
[08:22] <stuck2> on?
[08:23] <stuck2> fyi "telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Network is unreachable"
[08:23] <iter> try telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl
[08:23] <iter> that's default port 23
[08:24] <nearst> hi ppl
[08:26] <stuck2> iter: Trying 42.2.8.152... , so no different
[08:27] <iter> why do you have that IP for towel.blinkenlights.nl
[08:27] <iter> I get 94.142.241.111
[08:27] <iter> which dns server are you using
[08:28] <iter> cat /etc/resolv.conf
[08:30] <zalmoxes> any ops in here?
[08:31] <aeon-ltd> zalmoxes: let's pretend i am; why?
[08:31] <stuck2> iter: What do you mean by cat?
[08:32] <aeon-ltd> stuck2: it's a command that can read and merge files
[08:32] <iter> it will show the contents of that file
[08:32] <Oblivion1500> can anyone help me set up ssh so i can access it via my public ip?
[08:32] <dr_willis> cat /etc/motd
[08:32] <zalmoxes> aeon-ltd: i'm curious about the floodbots. i've been experiencing some difficulties with spam and wanted to know if it's something i could run on my own
[08:33] <iter> zalmoxes: you can run eggdrop no problem
[08:33] <iter> it's got plenty of anti-flood options
[08:33] <zalmoxes> ok
[08:33] <stuck2> iter: domain domain.actdsltmpsearch domain.actdsltmpnameserver 192.168.0.1nameserver 205.171.3.65
[08:34] <iter> let's change your DNS to 4.2.2.2 for now
[08:34] <stuck2> How?
[08:34] <iter> comment out or delete those namserver lines and change one to 4.2.2.2
[08:35] <TakeItEZ> Oblivion1500: install openssh-server, create a dyndns account for your host, then configure portforwarding in your router (if you have one) and connect from WAN to your dnydns-hostname
[08:35] <stuck2> iter: How?
[08:36] <Oblivion1500> TakeItEZ: can you allow pm's real quick
[08:36] <TakeItEZ> Oblivion1500: no
[08:36] <Oblivion1500> http://imgur.com/DLQGjQg
[08:36] <Oblivion1500> then that
[08:37] <angs> I copied a file from my usb stick, I want to install a deb file by dpkg -i but it outputs dpkg: unable to access dpkg status area: Read-only file system I cannot do chmo or chmod u+x to the file, it says read-only filed
[08:37] <angs> how can I install that file?
[08:37] <TakeItEZ> Oblivion1500: and i don't watch images on my phones irc-client
[08:37] <TakeItEZ> !details | Oblivion1500
[08:37] <Oblivion1500> http://imgur.com/DLQGjQg is my details
[08:38] <Oblivion1500> it has everything you need to know
[08:38] <stuck2> iter: I found the file in question, but how do I make it so I can make changes/give it PW permission, and what exactly should I put as a line, just 4.2.2.2?
[08:38] <dr_willis> angs: you are booted normally or in recovery mode!
[08:38] <dr_willis> mode?
[08:38] <helmut_> hi
[08:38] <Oblivion1500> i need to access my server from the public
[08:38] <aeon-ltd> TakeItEZ: it's a picture of a notepad with internal ips, and some netgear configuration pages
[08:38] <angs> dr_willis: I am powered the device normally and loged in as usual
[08:39] <Oblivion1500> and a command prompt with information
[08:39] <iter> stuck2: 'sudo sed -i 's/192.168.0.1/4.2.2.2/g'
[08:39] <iter> stuck2: sudo sed -i 's/192.168.0.1/4.2.2.2/g' /etc/resolv.conf
[08:39] <Oblivion1500> theres just too much information that your going to need for me to just say it here
[08:39] <dr_willis> angs:  so  the cmmand  'touch testfile' works?
[08:39] <iter> sorry, left the filename off there
[08:40] <angs> dr_willis, touch: cannot touch `testfile': Read-only file system
[08:40] <Oblivion1500> i have been working on this for days and gathered a lot of information i just cant seem to figure it out...
[08:40] <angs> does it mean I am on recovery mode?
[08:40] <stuck2> iter: OK done, now try xchat?
[08:40] <angs> is it possible to figure out why I am there
[08:41] <iter> now try nslookup towel.blinkenlights.nl
[08:41] <dr_willis> angs: i dont know how you booted the system.. you tell us
[08:41] <kepler> Oblivion1500: change the port to some high port, send 5022 to 22 -- your ISP might block it
[08:42] <aeon-ltd> for security reasons too
[08:42] <angs> dr_willis: it is an embedded board, I have not define the ubot, I just used the pre-defined ones.
[08:43] <TakeItEZ> security by obscurity. changing ssh-port reduces logs but won't really increase scurity
[08:43] <dr_willis> angs: well its mounted read only for sme reason.  you can use the remount option of mount. or just try rebooting
[08:43] <stuck2> iter: It told me "Non-authoritative answer:  Name:	towel.blinkenlights.nl Address: 94.142.241.111
[08:43] <Oblivion1500> TakeItEZ: ok im running ubuntu server LTS, im trying to connect to ssh via public ip, i get econnrefused     and all the information that is going to be needed lies here http://i.imgur.com/DLQGjQg.png
[08:43] <iter> stuck2: ok much better
[08:43] <Oblivion1500> i will change when i get it working but for now this will work
[08:43] <iter> stuck2: now try telnet irc.freenode.com 6667
[08:44] <Oblivion1500> and i taked to my isp and port 22 is not blocked
[08:44] <Oblivion1500> talked*
[08:44] <TakeItEZ> Oblivion1500: you try to connect your external IP from inside LAN? has your router nat-loopback enabled?
[08:44] <kepler> did you restart your router since you enabled port forwarding?
[08:45] <Oblivion1500> no im accessing from my phone
[08:45] <belgianguy> hi, is there a way to make grub reindex its list?
[08:45] <Oblivion1500> for testing
[08:45] <belgianguy> like it does after upgrading the OS
[08:45] <Oblivion1500> witch is not on my network
[08:45] <belgianguy> (looking for new partitions and OS'es)
[08:46] <TakeItEZ> Oblivion1500: is that one of these amazon ec2...?
[08:46] <Oblivion1500> arris modem provided by isp and netgear n600 router
[08:47] <iter> Oblivion1500: why do you have two subnets? why not just have router as 192.168.0.1 and server as 192.168.0.100
[08:47] <Oblivion1500> i have a modem and a router
[08:47] <kepler> looks like he is daisy chaining
[08:47] <kepler> is it a DSL modem?
[08:47] <Oblivion1500> cable
[08:47] <cfhowlett> belgianguy, sudo update-grub
[08:48] <Oblivion1500> were talking brighthouse lightning
[08:48] <stuck2> iter:  Looking up your hostname...  Checking Ident   Found your hostname  No Ident response ERROR :Closing Link: 127.0.0.1 (Connection timed out)
[08:48] <iter> stuck2: very good, now try xchat or whatever you prefer
[08:48] <kepler> what IP is your router assigned?
[08:48] <belgianguy> cfhowlett: d'oh, thanks :)
[08:48] <cfhowlett> belgianguy, no worries big guy
[08:49] <Oblivion1500> and i dont want to bridge my modem because i need the wireless on the modem to be working
[08:49] <Oblivion1500> that information is in the picture
[08:49] <kepler> i dont think you're going to get SSH working then
[08:49] <iter> Oblivion1500: I would venture to guess your router has no idea how to get to 192.168.1.x net
[08:50] <aeon-ltd> hello hello
[08:50] <cfhowlett> aeon-ltd, echo
[08:50] <Oblivion1500> kepler why do you say that?
[08:50] <kepler> you're operating on two different subnets
[08:51] <kepler> 192.168.0.0/24 can't talk to 192.168.1.0/24 (unless you do some static routing or something in your router)
[08:51] <stuck2> iter: So what was the problem in the end?
[08:51] <Oblivion1500> well what if i hardwire my server to my modem with a switch?
[08:51] <kepler> do you have two wireless access points?
[08:51] <iter> stuck2: so xchat is working now?
[08:51] <SerenE_SparK> How to define udev rule to run a sh script when a usb is plugged in?
[08:51] <Oblivion1500> static routing, like port forwarding?
[08:51] <kepler> you can do that, if your server is getting an IP in the 192.168.0.0/24 block
[08:51] <angs> dr_willis, I had an issue with /etc/fstab the kernel and rootfs are on an sd card. and /etc/fstab uses http://paste.ubuntu.com/1705196/ I had fschk error (error code ), then someone told me to replace "/dev/sda2" with "/" on /etc/fstab ... but when I boot the device with a usb device plugged, it was not able to mount mmcblkp2 (where the rootfs installed). do you know how I should edit that file?
[08:52] <kepler> no, i dont know if your modem would support static routes
[08:52] <linda666> hi... im having problems with my laptop's network driver. my laptop is lenovo G480. im using ubuntu 12.04. i have already followed this: http://pastebin.com/L8QhmJRn but still im facing problems, and i cant connect using cable. and sometimes my laptop hangs which based on logs i guess is caused by netwwork.
[08:52]  * jdesx hey i reinstalled ubuntu...i have ubuntu 12.10..where can i find a list of good Repos to install?
[08:52] <Oblivion1500> i have 3 2 comming from the router because the 5gz
[08:52] <cfhowlett> jdesx, software center
[08:53] <jdesx> where do i find the repos tho?
[08:53] <jdesx> google?
[08:53] <kepler> easiest is to do one gateway total. you can use your n600 as an AP/switch
[08:53] <jdesx> the actual URLS to input
[08:53] <kepler> turn off DHCP in the n600, and plug the modem into a non-wan port
[08:53] <cfhowlett> !ppa|jdesx, you seem to be talking about NON-standard repos AKA.  Good luck with that.
[08:54] <kepler> set the n600's IP to something like 192.168.0.254, so you can log in if you need to
[08:54] <kepler> then set your server IP to whatever, as long as it is 192.168.0.x
[08:55] <stuck2> iter:  yes
[08:55] <kepler> you'll retain all wireless features, but you won't be daisy chaining routers. you'll just let the modem be the DHCP server/default gateway
[08:55] <makara> everytime I update and upgrade there's some Flash update. How can I turn off updates for Flash, or at least make them only update occasionally?
[08:55] <iter> stuck2: you are welcome
[08:56] <cfhowlett> !cookie|iter,
[08:56] <jdesx> can someone help me install aircrack? i need to get into my router and test security
[08:56] <cfhowlett> !aircrack|jdesx, nope.  not supported here.
[08:56] <Goranek> :) :) test your routers sercurity? hahaha
[08:56] <stuck2> iter: I planned to say TY btw, but I still had one last question, what was the problem?
[08:56] <jdesx> Yes
[08:56] <Goranek> oh cmon just check if its WPA2, and WPS disabled you're safe
[08:56] <cfhowlett> jdesx, see aircrack support for support
[08:56] <jdesx> my neighbor said they hacked my network
[08:57] <iter> stuck2, your dns was messed up
[08:57] <cfhowlett> jdesx, it is not supported here.
[08:57] <Goranek> jdesx: create a new WPA2 passphrase, and disable WPS..it's crutial to disable WPS..all new routers have it
[08:57] <TakeItEZ> jdesx: change wpa-passphrase then and be happy
[08:57] <stuck2> iter: Is that why you asked what ISP I had? To find out the right DNS relay IP or something?
[08:58] <jdesx> i dont know my password lol
[08:58] <TakeItEZ> jdesx: then ask your neighbour
[08:58] <iter> stuck2: nope I wanted to know if your ISP was blocking outbound traffic to port 6667
[08:58] <stuck2> jdesx: Put a fork in you, your done :p
[08:58] <cfhowlett> TakeItEZ, LOL!
[08:58] <cfhowlett> jdesx, nice try.
[08:59] <stuck2> iter: why replace my internal IP with this 4.2.2.2 number in that file?
[08:59] <jdesx> no, lol im actually serious
[09:00] <jdesx> hard reset wont change pw
[09:00] <cfhowlett> jdesx, and seriously aircrack, backtrack and other such are - not-supported-here.
[09:00] <Goranek> dude it will reset to a default
[09:00] <Goranek> and then google for a default password
[09:00] <iter> stuck2: because you got some wack ass IP result for towel.blinkenlights.nl
[09:00] <stuck2> iter: I don't follow, but in the end its working now, TY!
[09:05]  * bbiao hello
[09:05] <truepurple> I created a partition and formated it, but how come it isn't letting me put files in it?
[09:06] <truepurple> Used gparted partition editor
[09:06] <Shehrazad> Hello.
[09:06] <aeon-ltd> truepurple: is it mounted?
[09:06] <truepurple> aeon-ltd, It says it is
[09:06] <Shehrazad> Say, I have version 1.1 of something
[09:06] <Shehrazad> And along came 1.2 and one day later 1.3
[09:07] <truepurple> aeon-ltd, there is a unmount option
[09:07] <Shehrazad> What happens if I update directly to 1.3?
[09:07] <Shehrazad> Do I need to update to 1.2 first?
[09:08] <Shehrazad> apt-get resolves this kind of update business, right?
[09:08] <funch> does
[09:08] <funch> hdmi work on ubuntu livecd ?
[09:09] <funch> amd/ati gfx laptop
[09:09] <rkid> give it a try and find out most probably
[09:09] <truepurple> aeon-ltd,  So any idea then?
[09:11] <TakeItEZ> truepurple: what filesystem? use chown/chmod to adjust permissions
[09:11] <TakeItEZ> !permissions | truepurple
[09:12] <truepurple> ext 4
[09:12] <truepurple> but I tried several others too
[09:12] <TakeItEZ> truepurple: does the new partition only hold your users data or wht do you want to use it for?
[09:13] <truepurple> It doesn't hold anything, its for storage
[09:13] <truepurple> well once I can put something in it
[09:13] <TakeItEZ> truepurple: for only one user ?
[09:13] <bbiao> Can I change my username in Ubuntu?
[09:13] <truepurple> yes
[09:13] <TakeItEZ> truepurple: sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /mountpoint                replace mountpoint by the real mountpiont
[09:13] <TakeItEZ> point*
[09:14] <truepurple> Is that last part with replace part fo the command?
[09:14] <TakeItEZ> truepurple: no a comment
[09:15] <rkid> my 10,1 macbook does not work with the logitech unify thing. I have to unplug it and plug it back in. I read about the logitech bug, when I write modprobe -r hid_logitech_dj modprobe hid_logitech_dj  it does nothing and ontop of that is disables my trackpad... It is a long shot but anyone else know what I can do
[09:15] <truepurple> TakeItEZ, Even if that works, isn't there a way to do it in gparted or other less complicated methods?
[09:15] <TakeItEZ> truepurple: i don't know
[09:15] <truepurple> replace user with my username?
[09:16] <truepurple> Or literally USER?
[09:16] <TakeItEZ> no
[09:16] <TakeItEZ> $USER
[09:16] <truepurple> chown: cannot access `/mountpoint': No such file or directory
[09:16] <TakeItEZ> truepurple: its a var holding your username
[09:16] <TakeItEZ> truepurple: ... where is the new partition mounted?
[09:17] <truepurple> What do you mean, where?
[09:18] <TakeItEZ> truepurple:what mountpoint, what directory? then: sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /ThatDirectory
[09:18] <truepurple> the thing at the beginning in gparted?
[09:18] <truepurple> dev/sda3?
[09:18] <TakeItEZ> truepurple: leafe gparted, run "mount|grep sda3"  if sda3 is the new partition
[09:18] <TakeItEZ> leave
[09:19] <Korbit> Is it safe to use DD to make a backup of / while mounted, or should I use a livecd to do that?
[09:19] <TakeItEZ> Korbit: better to use a live-cd
[09:19] <Korbit> @TakeItEZ That's what I though. Thanks
[09:20] <truepurple> TakeItEZ,  /dev/sda3 on /media/32610eef-29fb-44ef-9078-c91a2e1d20dc type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks)
[09:20] <TakeItEZ> truepurple:sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /media/32610eef-29fb-44ef-9078-c91a2e1d20dc
[09:21] <truepurple> TakeItEZ, Ok, I can put files in it now. But the thing is, right now I am just trying to test a few things, I need a less complicated method of making these partitions work
[09:23] <LinaSovereign> Hey !
[09:24] <truepurple> So, can you help please?
[09:24]  * jdesx  Hey I just installed ubuntu 12.10 and everything finally works with it...what are some cool programs to download?
[09:26] <truepurple> TakeItEZ, ?
[09:29] <truepurple> Can anyone help me with how to make a partition open to use from the start, or at least with a few easy measures, rather then needing complicated commands?
[09:30] <dr_willis> truepurple: you add an entry if the fstab to mount it.. yiu mean?
[09:30] <dr_willis> or yoy just want it open in rhe file manager?
[09:31] <truepurple> dr_willis, I am not sure what you mean. But when I make a partition with gparted, format it and mount it, I can't put files in it, TakeItEZ gave me a set of long commands that allowed me to use it, but I am experimenting with partitions and need something simpler to make them accessible
[09:32] <dr_willis> truepurple: what filestatem did you use?
[09:32] <TakeItEZ> truepurple: it just one command you have to issue
[09:32] <truepurple> dr_willis, I was told to type "mount|grep sda3" then "sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /media/32610eef-29fb-44ef-9078-c91a2e1d20dc"
[09:33] <truepurple> dr_willis, that long string in the second command was from the results of the first
[09:33] <TakeItEZ> truepurple: ask the gparted dev to integrate userhandling in their tool
[09:33] <dr_willis> truepurple:  you mount it somewhere. then chown it to be owned by your user
[09:34] <dr_willis> truepurple:  so is it mounted now?
[09:34] <truepurple> dr_willis, filestatem, you mean system? And yes, it is mounted
[09:34] <dr_willis> mounted where
[09:34] <truepurple> dr_willis, I do not know
[09:34] <truepurple> main area I guess?
[09:34] <dr_willis> use the mount command and look...
[09:35] <TakeItEZ> truepurple:the actual mountpoint is /media/32610eef-29fb-44ef-9078-c91a2e1d20dc
[09:35] <truepurple> there
[09:35] <truepurple> that absurdly long string
[09:35] <truepurple> I guess
[09:35] <TakeItEZ> truepurple: next time give a label to the partition you create
[09:35] <TakeItEZ> truepurple: without, it uses the UUID, hard to recall
[09:35] <dr_willis> have gparted give it a label.. and it will use that for a name.....
[09:36] <dr_willis> instead of the uuid#
[09:37] <dr_willis> you chown the mountpoint to be owned by yur user.. what is your user name yu want to access it?
[09:37] <truepurple> So I make, format, and mount the partition, then sudo chown -R $USER:$USER <label>?
[09:37] <utf> hello i have my scripts into ~/bin/bash, but then when i try to use a bash script writing the name
[09:37] <utf> it doesn't work
[09:37] <utf> where should i tell my system
[09:37] <utf> i want to include ~/bin/bash directory
[09:37] <utf> in the path
[09:37] <dr_willis> truepurple:  its allready formated you said.
[09:37] <utf> permanently ?
[09:38] <sexy_boy_21> hey, could someone help me out with ubuntu-phone??
[09:38] <StephBot> I was going to do a dist-upgrade, and when the upgrade finished fetching, I left for a moment. After back, I found that there is nowhere for me to type the password to get into the desktop. Any way to bring me back to the desktop?
[09:38] <dr_willis> utf you have a bash directory in bin? thars weird
[09:38] <truepurple> dr_willis, yes, but I am speaking of future partitions I will make too, which of course will be formated and mounted. What is your point?
[09:38] <andyegan> hello and good morning to all.
[09:38] <utf> dr_willis, yes i keep the bin directory root for my compiled files
[09:39] <utf> and the bash directory for my hand-written scripts
[09:39] <dr_willis> truepurple:  chmod and chown after mounted.. cirrect
[09:39] <truepurple> dr_willis, Is it possible to give a partition a label after making it, changing it from the UUID thing?
[09:39] <dr_willis> truepurple: yes
[09:39] <andyegan> if there is anyone here that can help wit a problem as I am new to ubuntu
[09:39] <truepurple> dr_willis, how?
[09:39] <dr_willis> truepurple:  tune2fs
[09:40] <histo> !ask | andyegan
[09:40] <dr_willis> or gparted
[09:40] <truepurple> andyegan, just tell us the problem, rather then asking if anyone is willing to help
[09:41] <histo> truepurple: You can't change uuid
[09:41] <truepurple> dr_willis, How do I use gparted to change that?
[09:41] <truepurple> histo, I think willis just said I could
[09:41] <andyegan> i have come accross this error when tryin to use synpatic manager and it stops all trys to install software .it is the following bug..linux (3.2.0-38.61) precise-proposed; urgency=low
[09:41] <andyegan>   [Luis Henriques]
[09:41] <andyegan>   * Release Tracking Bug
[09:41] <andyegan>     - LP: #1130044
[09:41] <andyegan>   [ Upstream Kernel Changes ]
[09:41] <FloodBot1> andyegan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:41] <histo> truepurple: tune2fs -L volumename /dev/blah
[09:42] <truepurple> histo, Sorry, I don't understand
[09:43] <histo> truepurple: You can use tune2fs to assign a volume name to it.
[09:43] <StephBot> andyegan: to give us the website which contains the whole detail is enough. you don't need to paste them to here.
[09:43] <truepurple> histo, Does that change its "location"?
[09:43] <histo> truepurple: ahh aparently you can change the uuid as well for the filesystem.
[09:44] <andyegan> this is the problem i have encountered and it causes problems when i want to use the package managers to install software.this is the pastebin for it http://pastebin.com/WhgJCr7x
[09:44] <histo> truepurple: What do you want to do exactly??
[09:45] <histo> andyegan: Are you running some proposed updates?
[09:45] <andyegan> histo:i was trying to run a simple apt-get update followed by upgrade
[09:45] <truepurple> Histo Well dr_willis said that if I don't use a label, I have to use a long ass string command to do things like make the partition available for files. Would giving it a label after the fact be the same as giving it a label when it is made?
[09:46] <lukicat> hi folks, did an update from 11.10 to 12.04 on a thinkpad t420s. now touchpad, graphics and network is not workung. any1 an idea what to do?
[09:46] <truepurple> histo, Also, I want to be able to make partitions, format and mount em, without having to run command strings to make them open for files as well
[09:48] <dr_willis> truepurple:  you can change the label. it just may not be seen as changed untill you rebot. or theres some command i recall to make the kernel rescan the disks
[09:48] <rewarp> lukicat: Try inputting the following into Grub yet? "quiet splash acpi_osi=Linux acpi_backlight=vendor"
[09:48] <histo> I'm so confused.
[09:48] <dr_willis> truepurple:  and you can setup the fstab line to be like   label='labelname'  instead of 'uuid='#####'
[09:50] <truepurple> dr_willis, and is giving a unlabeled partition a label, the same as using that label from the start?
[09:50] <dr_willis> truepurple:  of course
[09:50] <dr_willis> the label from the 'start' is ""  (null)
[09:50] <dr_willis> same as renameing a drive in windows basically.. the os really  dosent care.. it uses the uuid
[09:51] <dr_willis> and you CAN  change the uuid if you  wanted to with  tune2fs
[09:51] <truepurple> dr_willis, Ok, so exactly what command do I need to run after setting up the partition, to make it open for files? And is there a way/program that will allow me to make partitions already opened or openable without command lines?
[09:51] <dr_willis> truepurple:  you make it owned by the people/groups you want to have permission for it
[09:51] <dr_willis> truepurple:  same as you  would for a directory
[09:51] <andyegan> histo:are you confused by my problem?
[09:51] <dr_willis> but you change the modes AFTER its mounted
[09:52] <dr_willis> find a gui tool to set the owner i guess.. i never looked for one.
[09:52] <truepurple> dr_willis, But none of that makes much sense to me. Of course its especially confusing since I am the one and only user, so when you talk about having it owned by other people or groups, its weird
[09:52] <dr_willis> never noticed any options for mkfs or in gparted to set the owner either.
[09:53] <dr_willis> never really looked.
[09:53] <truepurple> How about tune2fs?
[09:53] <dr_willis> truepurple:  there is NOT only ONE user.. the system has the root user. and your added user..
[09:53] <dr_willis> and other service type users
[09:53] <truepurple> Can tune2fs set ownership?
[09:53] <dr_willis> linux is multi user from the beginning
[09:53] <histo> dr_willis: why doesn't he just mount it to a different directory.
[09:54] <TakeItEZ> histo: thats not solving his problem
[09:54] <dr_willis> truepurple:  i doubt it.. since thats not its job.
[09:54] <TakeItEZ> truepurple: tune2fs cannot
[09:54] <truepurple> histo, I just make and mount, I am not picking any directory when I do so, or know how
[09:54] <histo> I though he just doesn't want to use UUID
[09:54] <dr_willis> truepurple:  you set the label when it formats and it will use that as the mount directory
[09:55] <dr_willis> well gparted can set the label befor or after formating
[09:55] <kerf> Anyone else have their ubuntu not get passed GRUB?
[09:55] <dr_willis> format, label . mount. chown.
[09:55] <truepurple> dr_willis, and if I change/add a label after formating, the mount directory changes to that?
[09:56] <dr_willis> truepurple:  the automounting serice uses the label when it first mounts the volume. next reboot.. it will use the new label. or if it gets unmounted/remounted it will use the new one.
[09:56] <dr_willis> this does NOT apply  if you  have a fstab entry for the filesystem..
[09:57] <andyegan> anyone can help with this problem please http://pastebin.com/WhgJCr7x
[09:57] <dr_willis> if this is a internal filesystem/drive. then you can just make a fstab entry to mount it whever you  want..
[09:57] <dr_willis> you  can for external media as well.. but it can be quirky
[09:57] <truepurple> dr_willis, too technical for me to understand
[09:58] <dr_willis> truepurple:  time to read some guides then i guess
[09:58] <dr_willis> security basics.. the  location has to be owned by the user, or set to allow them to access it.
[09:58] <truepurple> dr_willis, Anyway so how do I set ownership again? That is what we are talking about here, right?
[09:58] <dr_willis> the users home directory is owned by them.. as would any  external ext2/3/4 filesystems on other devices
[09:59] <dr_willis> chown command sets ownership
[09:59] <dr_willis> chmod sets modes
[09:59] <dr_willis> ls -l   in your home and look at who owns your files..
[09:59] <dr_willis> it will be your username:username
[09:59] <dr_willis> or should be at least. ;)
[10:00] <wiggmpk> dr_willis: i thought its was username:groupname?
[10:00] <dr_willis> wiggmpk:  and each user is also a member of a group the same as their username
[10:00] <TakeItEZ> since we use usergroups, its username=groupname
[10:00] <wiggmpk> dr_willis: right, was just making sure
[10:00] <dr_willis> i rarely do more advanced stuff with groups.
[10:00] <truepurple> dr_willis, The reason why I can't put files into newly created and mounted partitions is ownership hasn't been set yet, right?
[10:01] <dr_willis> truepurple:  you got it..
[10:01] <dr_willis> same reason your user cantg write to any other system directorys.. not owned by the user.
[10:01] <dr_willis> permissions Can allow more open access..  in that case
[10:01] <truepurple> dr_willis, And the only way to set that ownership is by a command line in terminal, that you know of, right?
[10:01] <dr_willis> thats why your user can 'read' from /bin/ and not write to it
[10:01] <kerf> My ubuntu 12.04LTS is having trouble booting, it seems to be related to "gettext.sh" not being found, I think.  Does anyone know a cure for this?
[10:02] <dr_willis> truepurple:  ive never needed a gui  for it..  and it must  be done with  root rights for security reasons of course
[10:02]  * jdesx what are the basic commands to enter into terminal to get sudo to work? etc
[10:02] <dr_willis> some of the file managers if ran as root mighjt be able to change owner.. but ive never reallyu looked. and  i dont reccomend  running  gui  file managers as root
[10:02] <truepurple> dr_willis, and how will this ownership setting thing work with a windows duel boot? Will I have any trouble accessing the new partition from windows?
[10:03] <truepurple> Obviously I wouldn't use ext4
[10:03] <dr_willis> truepurple:  windows dosent read ext2/3/4
[10:03] <truepurple> I know
[10:03] <TakeItEZ> truepurple: windows won't even recognise your new partition
[10:03] <dr_willis> withoug special software
[10:03] <dr_willis> truepurple:  the owner/mode stuff doess NOT apply  to vfat or ntfs filesystems
[10:03] <truepurple> dr_willis, If I don't use ext2/3/4, I don't have to set ownership?
[10:03] <dr_willis> those dont  have linux permissions or osnerships.
[10:04] <dr_willis> ntfs/vfat are owned by options used when you mount them.
[10:04] <TakeItEZ> truepurple: you have to use mountoptions instead (uid, gid, umask) when using ntfs or vfat
[10:04] <histo> !mount | truepurple
[10:04] <dr_willis> the ntfs-config tool can set those where every  user has full access. or not..
[10:05] <dr_willis> other filesystems may or may  not need ownership. or mount options..
[10:05] <histo> truepurple: May I ask how you are currenlty mounting this filesystem you created?
[10:05] <dr_willis> linux supports a huge # of filesystems
[10:06] <TakeItEZ> someone should correct the mount-factoid. one mounts filesystems not necessarily partitions
[10:07] <truepurple> histo, trying now, but mounting ntfs seems more complicated
[10:07] <histo> truepurple: mount /dev/sdx /mountpoint
[10:08] <histo> truepurple: replace sdx with the location of the ntfs partition. The default behavior is to moutn rw That's why I'm really confused here.
[10:08] <truepurple> histo why isn't the right click mount thing working with ntfs?
[10:08] <histo> truepurple: How exactly were you even trying to write to it before if you don't even know how to mount it?
[10:08] <lukicat> hi folks, did an update from 11.10 to 12.04 on a thinkpad t420s. now touchpad, graphics and network is not workung. any1 an idea what to do?
[10:09] <truepurple> histo, I am not trying to write to it yet, first I need to figure out why I can't mount it
[10:09] <dr_willis> its would be  sdx#   normally
[10:09] <dr_willis> truepurple:  so this is a ntfs now you are trying to access?
[10:09] <truepurple> histo, previous partition was ext4, now I am experimenting with ntfs. But first I need to know why nothing happens when I right click it and choose "mount"
[10:10] <TakeItEZ>  10:48 < rewarp> lukicat: Try inputting the following into Grub yet? "quiet splash acpi_osi=Linux
[10:10] <TakeItEZ>                  acpi_backlight=vendor"
[10:10] <truepurple> dr_willis, this is a ntfs I am trying to mount
[10:10] <histo> truepurple: In nautilus you just click on a filesystem to mount it. Are you getting any sort of error?
[10:10] <truepurple> histo, nope, just nothing happens
[10:10] <histo> truepurple: Can you please open a terminal. and lsblk
[10:11] <dr_willis> truepurple:  if the ntfs for some reason has been marked 'unmounted uncleanly' or other wise in a bad condition. it may refuse to auto mount it. You could still try to mount it by the command line   ntfs-3g command
[10:11] <histo> truepurple: get the /dev/sdx# location for the ntfs partition.  Then mkdir /tmp/test && sudo mount /dev/sdx# /tmp/test
[10:11] <dr_willis> im not sure if nautilus gives any errors if it fails for that reason
[10:11] <StephBot> quit
[10:11] <truepurple> histo, dr_willis never mind, it was because gparted was open. Gparted is a bit of a pain that way that I have to keep closing it down to do anything with its new drives
[10:11]  * histo there is a reason I don't use NTFS
[10:12] <dr_willis> for ntfs you  would use   sudo ntfs-3g  /dev/sdX#   /media/MakeaDiretoryFirst
[10:12] <Night_Elf> Hello all. I am trying to configure a printer, Xerox WorkCentre 5645, which should do acounting and needs accounting user id and group id. It is not working and the printer gives out a page with "The job was deleted due to invalid accounting IDs". By googling, I see that many people have the same problem. So then, is there a working PPD for this printer which we can use?
[10:12] <histo> truepurple: That's actually a feature
[10:12] <dr_willis> with extra options as needed
[10:12] <dr_willis> ;)
[10:12] <truepurple> histo, How is it a good thing? Is there a way to disable this feature?
[10:12] <dr_willis> one mans bug is another mans feature
[10:12] <dr_willis> you  dont  format or resize or work on Mounted filesystems
[10:12] <histo> truepurple: No you shouldn't be editing partitions and filesystems with mounted drives
[10:13] <dr_willis> i think you can change the label  on a mounted fs..  but not much else
[10:13] <truepurple> I wouldn't
[10:13] <histo> TakeItEZ: I know most people don't even understand the difference probably how the factoid got that way.
[10:14] <truepurple> But having to open and close gparted, and enter my PW every time is a real pain
[10:14] <histo> truepurple: Why do you keep opening gparted?
[10:14] <dr_willis> i tend to use gparted like once a month. ;)
[10:14] <truepurple> histo, Because I am experimenting with partitions
[10:14] <dr_willis> truepurple:  thats the cost of experimenting
[10:14] <histo> truepurple: No way around it
[10:15] <histo> I don't use gparted
[10:15] <dr_willis> well no secure/safe way around it..
[10:15] <truepurple> If I delete a partition with data on it, is there a simply way to resurrect that partition with its data?
[10:15] <dr_willis> security should always be kept in mind.. system  seurity. system safety
[10:16] <nyuszika7h> hi, I've installed Kubuntu 12.10 using Wubi and when I boot it, I get this error:
[10:16] <dr_willis> truepurple:   theres some commands yes.. and if you really know what you  are doing they  may even work. ;)
[10:16] <dr_willis> !info testdisk
[10:16] <dr_willis> if you are really good.. you will never need to use the tools.
[10:16] <truepurple> and if your a ignorant novice, is it like playing with fire or something?
[10:17] <dr_willis> truepurple:  a good way to play with partions and filesystmes is in a vbox install. that way you cant accidently  hurt anything
[10:17] <nyuszika7h> [Loop-mounted file systems already present] The selected partition (partition 1 of /var/lib/partman/devices/=dev=sda) already contains the following filesystem images: /ubuntu/disks/root.disk - Please uninstall these before trying again.
[10:17] <dr_willis> nyuszika7h:  you have used wubi befor?
[10:17] <truepurple> dr_willis, how can I hurt anything if no crucial data is on the partitions I make, modify, and destroy?
[10:17] <nyuszika7h> nope
[10:18] <dr_willis> truepurple:  you tell us.. we dont know whats on your systems.
[10:18] <histo> truepurple: When you acidentally repartition a drive you didn't mean to.
[10:18] <dr_willis> truepurple:  dont accidently  format your windows partition..
[10:18]  * dr_willis looks around and wonders who else has done this.....
[10:18] <truepurple> Ok
[10:18] <histo> truepurple: mistakes happen all the time. Why I get paid good for data recovery.
[10:18]  * dr_willis raises hand
[10:19] <truepurple> is this vbox just as easy/complicated to use as normal gparted etc?
[10:19] <nyuszika7h> I did try to shrink the NTFS partition from an Ubuntu 10.04 LTS live CD (that's the only thing I have, live USBs fail with "EDD: Error X reading sector Y"), but ntfsresize complained about missing clusters. Windows XP still boots fine.
[10:19] <dr_willis> truepurple:  also  pay  attention to the actual drives/partions.. a extrrernal drive may be sdc one time.. and sdb the next time..
[10:19] <histo> truepurple: a slip up during a dd command or a rm could really create nightmares for you as well.
[10:19] <histo> truepurple: You could create a guest and boot the gparted live cd and partition to your hearts content.
[10:20] <histo> atleast until you hit 4 primaries.
[10:20] <dr_willis> nyuszika7h:  it sounds like your windows drive may  be in a somewhat confused state. it may be worth  scannng it  for errors
[10:20] <truepurple> dr_willis, When does this sdc/sdb thing come into effect?
[10:20] <nyuszika7h> dr_willis: chkdsk?
[10:20] <histo> oh boy
[10:20] <dr_willis> truepurple:  it can depend on the order you plug them in.. or can happen at other times.. so dont realy  on  a usb you plug in to be sdb all the time...
[10:20] <truepurple> what kind of thing are you doing when that might come into play?
[10:21] <histo> truepurple: partitioning or mounting
[10:21] <dr_willis> nyuszika7h:  you  may want to ask in #windows about the best way to verify the windows files/disk
[10:21] <histo> truepurple: Take a look at the device names in gparted /dev/sda /dev/sdb etc... Those are different disks
[10:21] <nyuszika7h> ok
[10:21] <TakeItEZ> truepurple: 1st drive in system = /dev/sda, 2nd drive /dev/sdb, 3rd drive /dev/sdc ....
[10:21]  * dr_willis has like 6 extternal usb hds... 
[10:21] <truepurple> But the label won't change randomly, right?
[10:21] <dr_willis> they can all be in differnt orders at each boot.
[10:21] <dr_willis> label is part of the filesystem. dosent change
[10:22] <truepurple> So if I pay attention to the label... I will know, right?
[10:22] <dr_willis> same for the uuid
[10:22] <nyuszika7h> I'll try  chkdsk /F /R C:  and  sfc /scannow
[10:22] <histo> dr_willis: What are you talking about changing at boot?
[10:22] <truepurple> Right, so if the label never changes, why should I care about sda/sdb/sdc?
[10:22] <dr_willis> histo:  i have so many usb hds and some are faster/slower then others.. so sdh one time  may  be sdk the next..
[10:22]  * dr_willis has a LOT of usb ports
[10:22] <histo> dr_willis: It's based on addresses they shouldn't be changing.
[10:23] <Ben64> usb drives could change at boot
[10:23] <Night_Elf> Hello all. I am trying to configure a printer, Xerox WorkCentre 5645, which should do acounting and needs accounting user id and group id. It is not working and the printer gives out a page with "The job was deleted due to invalid accounting IDs". By googling, I see that many people have the same problem. So then, is there a working PPD for this printer which we can use?
[10:23] <z3rongod> Swedish ubuntu channel = ?
[10:23] <dr_willis> histo:  assuming i havent moved themn.. and  i got the  power strips powered up in the  same order...
[10:23] <TakeItEZ> !se
[10:23] <dr_willis> ive seen some pcs that make whatever HD they boot from be sda... then the rest fall in line..
[10:24] <dr_willis> that really really  had me confused for a while
[10:24] <TakeItEZ> thats why we use UUIDs or labels
[10:24] <histo> nonsense
[10:24] <TakeItEZ> s-ata hotplug etc. you never can be sure that /dev/sdb always will be sdb
[10:25] <truepurple> Well I can tell which device it is by its size
[10:25] <histo> truepurple: Just use UUID
[10:25] <truepurple> histo, you mean label?
[10:25] <nyuszika7h> no, UUID
[10:25] <nyuszika7h> label works if you don't change it
[10:25] <histo> universal unique identifier
[10:25] <nyuszika7h> but the UUID never changes afaik
[10:25] <histo> nyuszika7h: you can change the UUID
[10:25] <dr_willis> i bought 2 identical external USB  hds once.. they even had the same UUID
[10:26] <nyuszika7h> you can?
[10:26] <dr_willis> that really really  confused things..
[10:26] <nyuszika7h> dr_willis: by default? nice coincidence
[10:26] <Ben64> ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/
[10:26] <dr_willis> you can change the UUID yes.. and it can change
[10:26] <truepurple> nyuszika7h, yeah, so if I never change the label, then what is the problem with depending on the label?
[10:26] <dr_willis> resizeing, and other things
[10:26] <dr_willis> nyuszika7h:  i think they all had the same uuid... just how they were made
[10:26] <Ben64> i like setting my own uuid
[10:26] <nyuszika7h> nothing, I guess, but if you reformat it, the label will be lost/changed
[10:26] <histo> nyuszika7h: tune2fs -U random /some/device/foo
[10:26] <Ben64> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Feb  6 18:57 00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000064 -> ../../sdc2
[10:26] <dr_willis> uuid=000-000-000-000-0001  ;)
[10:27] <TakeItEZ> nyuszika7h: so will the UUID
[10:27] <ikonia> labels are depreciated
[10:27] <TakeItEZ> ikonia: why?
[10:27] <ikonia> TakeItEZ: they are unreliable in the event of file system corruption
[10:27] <histo> Because some no talent clown decides were all going to suffer with this new BS label UUID
[10:28] <dr_willis> new?
[10:28] <ikonia> histo: UUID is a good concept but a failure for home computing, it it will improve as it matures
[10:28] <histo> Just like the people that can't handle nic device naming changing because they can't figure out which mac is which. So now new systemd naming is all jacked up.
[10:29] <TakeItEZ> ikonia: the UUID has the same problem when fs is corupted
[10:29] <ikonia> histo: as it matures, it will become dependable
[10:29] <ikonia> TakeItEZ: no, it doesn't
[10:29] <worm> A bad thing happened when I was trying to upgrade the dist: my gdm sucked and I can't get back to the desktop. Now all I can see is just a gnome3-style volume setting button and an accessibility setting button. No user password box is shown. What can I do?
[10:29]  * dr_willis hides from systemd   ;)
[10:29] <dr_willis> that will be such a confuseing time when it gets here..
[10:30] <truepurple> dr_willis, is messing around with partitions in vbox work just like outside of vbox?
[10:30] <histo> ikonia: Really then explain how specifying a UUID won't get corrupted but specifying a label will?
[10:30] <Layke> I'm trying to get my microphone working.. where I would I do this?
[10:30] <dr_willis> truepurple:  it should.
[10:30] <histo> truepurple: yes you can even partition a file
[10:30] <lewik> How to redirect all *.local to 127.0.0.1?
[10:30] <ikonia> histo: it's where it's written/how it's generated
[10:30] <dr_willis> truepurple:  you can have severla hds in vbox. and parition/clone/format all you want
[10:31] <histo> ikonia: Both would be stored with the filesystem if the user changes it.
[10:31] <dr_willis> truepurple:  virtual hard drives are fun.  ;)
[10:31] <ikonia> histo: no, it's basically a checksum/md5 of the disk that's written to the blkid.tab
[10:31] <ikonia> histo: corruption dosn't change that so it will still match
[10:32] <ikonia> histo: that bring different problems with it though.....
[10:32] <Dave89> every fucken virtual machine i try ubuntu on
[10:32] <Dave89> it gives this msg
[10:32] <Dave89> This virtual machine is configured for 64-bit guest operating systems. However, 64-bit operation is not possible.
[10:32] <TakeItEZ> ikonia: the only difference is, that lables aren't necessarily unique. the effect of a corrupted fs would be the same. blkid.tab also contains labels
[10:32] <FloodBot1> Dave89: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:32] <ikonia> Dave89: that language isn't acceptable
[10:32] <Dave89> im sick of this shit
[10:33] <Ben64> well that solved itself
[10:33] <dr_willis> 0_o
[10:33] <ikonia> TakeItEZ: not sure I agree with that,
[10:33] <dr_willis> and here i was typing an answer.. ;P
[10:33] <truepurple> So how would I use test disk to recover a deleted partition? And is there a chance of data corruption if you delete then recover a partition, assuming you don't do anything with partitioning between the two?
[10:34] <dr_willis> truepurple:  theres always a chance
[10:34] <histo> ikonia: They are both part of the filesystem I don't understand how you think corruption is not an issue.
[10:34] <ikonia> truepurple: testdisks effectivness depends on a lot of things,
[10:34] <dr_willis> truepurple:  you could set up a vbox linux  install and try it.
[10:34] <truepurple> Even if nothing is done between them?
[10:34] <truepurple> ikonia, like?
[10:35] <ikonia> truepurple: changes on the file system, which can be as small as an atime change, the physical device, the inode distribution, etc etc
[10:35] <ChrisReilly> Hello gentlemen, anyone help me with a dpkg configuration error?
[10:35] <truepurple> ikonia changes in the FS outside of the deleted partition?
[10:36] <TakeItEZ> ikonia: i'm not saying, i'm true (you're wrong). i just don't see the difference
[10:36] <TakeItEZ> ChrisReilly: just state your issue
[10:37] <ChrisReilly> dpkg --configure -a > mkdir: cannot create directory `/dev/shm': File exists
[10:37] <ChrisReilly> Happened after I upgraded 12.04 > 12.10
[10:38] <vandemar> How long does it take for a bugfix like this to hit the main repos (released a week ago for Quantal, but the fixed version is still not in Precise)?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/iptables/+bug/982961
[10:38] <histo> truepurple: No has nothing to do with data outside of the FS
[10:38] <histo> truepurple: You should run your own experiments and learn. Try recovering some deleted files.
[10:40] <truepurple> Is there good alternatives to test disk?
[10:40] <Layke> I'm not sure where I can manage my audio and recording devices?
[10:40] <ikonia> truepurple: have you actually lost data ?
[10:40] <Layke> I want to set up my microphone? Where would I do this?
[10:41] <worm> I had just made a mistake: I forgot to check the battery status before running dist-upgrade. My laptop had just powered off and restarted. What can I do to resume the upgrade?
[10:42] <worm> That is a distribution upgrade (from 12.10 to 13.04 alpha). Is dpkg --reconfigure -a going to solve the problem?
[10:42] <worm> dpkg --configure -a
[10:42] <truepurple> ikonia I have before, but this is more for learning the ins and outs of it for the future
[10:42] <TakeItEZ> !ringtail | worm
[10:42] <ikonia> truepurple: the tools you use and techniques will very much depend on what's happened, rather than a generic process
[10:43] <truepurple> ikonia, Let's say you simply delete the partition, then turn around and bring it back, much chance of data corruption then?
[10:43] <worm> OK, fine... so I need to wait for several months to get that problem solved...
[10:43] <ikonia> truepurple: have you done that ?
[10:43] <lukicat> [11:10:04] <TakeItEZ> no change
[10:43] <yabesd> This virtual machine is configured for 64-bit guest operating systems. However, 64-bit operation is not possible.
[10:44] <lukicat> fyi, foudn a solution: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/taglib/+bug/902603
[10:44] <yabesd> what is this problem ?
[10:44] <histo> !undelete | truepurple here read this
[10:44] <yabesd> i have a high spec pc,and it isnt working
[10:44] <histo> yabesd: Processor doesn't support it
[10:44] <yabesd> doesnt i7 support it ?
[10:44] <truepurple> Histo, that is for deleted files, not deleted partitions
[10:44] <yabesd> wtf
[10:45] <truepurple> And what FS is best for recovering lost data on?
[10:45] <histo> truepurple: Not it's not please read the first link
[10:45] <histo> yabesd: You have to look at your cpu flags to see.
[10:45] <ikonia> truepurple: there really isn't a "best"
[10:45] <TakeItEZ> i doubt there will be a 32bit-only i7 out there
[10:46] <yabesd> Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz (8 CPUs), ~3.4GHz
[10:46] <yabesd> what are cpu flags ?
[10:46] <TakeItEZ> yabesd: grep " lm " /proc/cpuinfo
[10:46] <truepurple> What it is talking about with ext 3, does that apply to ext 4 too?
[10:46] <yabesd> what ?
[10:46] <ikonia> yabesd: it won't be your CPU, it will be the virtualization software you are running
[10:46] <yabesd> what do you recommend ?
[10:46] <ikonia> truepurple: ext4 is an evolution of ext3
[10:46] <ikonia> yabesd: what are you using ?
[10:47] <yabesd> i tried virtual box
[10:47] <vnc786> i have shared a folder thru samba with 777 but when i am mounting on other ubuntu machine it give me this error http://pastebin.com/FkQgD8Yi
[10:47] <yabesd> didnt work
[10:47] <truepurple> ikonia, I figured, so do those same issues exist on ext4, or has it evolved out of them?
[10:47] <ikonia> yabesd: virtualbox supports 64bit machines, no prboem
[10:47] <ikonia> truepurple: what issues ?
[10:47] <yabesd> i tried vm workstation
[10:47] <yabesd> didnt work
[10:47] <ikonia> yabesd: I suspect it is your config that doesn't work, as both of them support 64bit fine
[10:47] <ikonia> yabesd: is your host system running 64bit ?
[10:47] <vnc786> well  i m able to browse from xp clients...and there is already a samba share mounted
[10:48] <histo> yabesd: egrep '(vmx|svm)' --color=always /proc/cpuinfo
[10:48] <yabesd> let me check
[10:48] <truepurple> ikonia, it says with ext3, you can't undelete files. Is that true of ext4 too?
[10:48] <ikonia> truepurple: should be the same
[10:48] <yabesd> yep
[10:48] <yabesd> 64 bit
[10:48] <yabesd> histo whats that ?
[10:49] <yabesd> where do i get it form ?
[10:49] <yabesd> guys
[10:49] <yabesd> i need help
[10:49] <yabesd> im sick of this
[10:50] <worm> I have a question about flashplugin-installer: Why I can finish fetching the file manually by using wget in 2 minutes, and the application needs more than one hour?
[10:50] <ikonia> yabesd: please show me the output of "uname -a" from your HOST system
[10:50] <yabesd> i got a new pc for this stuff and it turns out that they dont work
[10:50] <ikonia> yabesd: they do work, stop complaining.
[10:50] <Hackuin> Hello all :]
[10:50] <yabesd> whats uname -a
[10:50] <yabesd> how do i get it
[10:50] <an0nym0u8> hey ! Can i set up a vpn connection on ubuntu?
[10:50] <ikonia> yabesd: a command you need to put in the terminal
[10:51] <yabesd> dude im runing windoes
[10:51] <yabesd> windows*
[10:51] <ikonia> yabesd: please open the terminal on your HOST system, not the VM, and type uname -a - then past the output into this channel
[10:51] <ikonia> yabesd: right.....so why are you in #ubuntu then ?
[10:51] <yabesd> -.-
[10:51] <ikonia> yabesd: try ##windows
[10:51] <Hackuin> Need little help over here, I have few video files, of .avs format, could able to play in media player, but, the video is like fast forward. is there any avs player dedicated to ubuntu?
[10:51] <yabesd> im having a problem runnung ubuntu on a vm
[10:51] <TakeItEZ> yabesd: what error
[10:52] <Touhou11> Hackuin: VLC is a good versatile media player
[10:52] <ikonia> yabesd: the problem is the host settings not providing the guest hardware correctly
[10:52] <Hackuin> Touhou11: VLC couldn't play these files...
[10:52] <yabesd> This virtual machine is configured for 64-bit guest operating systems. However, 64-bit operation is not possible.
[10:52] <truepurple> Can one store a hard drive in freezing weather, and have it be alright, as long as it isn't operating while cold?
[10:52] <ikonia> yabesd: it is possible,
[10:52] <TakeItEZ> yabesd: what error you get?
[10:52] <yabesd> and how can i fi it ?
[10:52] <Ben64> thats not an ubuntu error though
[10:52] <yabesd> This virtual machine is configured for 64-bit guest operating systems. However, 64-bit operation is not possible.
[10:52] <Ben64> so i don't see how we could help with that
[10:52] <TakeItEZ> yabesd: what error you get?
[10:52] <meiwes> hello
[10:52] <ikonia> yabesd: you'll need to talk tot he windows guys to configure your guest hardware correctly
[10:53] <truepurple> never mind that question
[10:53] <ikonia> truepurple: try ##hardware, that's not really an ubuntu issue
[10:53] <yabesd> TakeItEZ: you trolling mate >
[10:53] <yabesd> ?
[10:53] <meiwes> I am trying to install firefox 19 on ubuntu 8.04 and i get this error XPCOMGlueLoad error for file /opt/firefox/libxpcom.so:
[10:53] <meiwes> libxul.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:53] <meiwes> Couldn't load XPCOM.
[10:53] <Ben64> dude. upgrade
[10:53] <meiwes> Not an option
[10:53] <Ben64> upgrading is always an option
[10:53] <Touhou11> meiwes: What model toaster is this./
[10:53] <vandemar> yabesd: what kind of machine is it?  dell?
[10:54] <meiwes> Touhoull:Hardy
[10:54] <yabesd> asus
[10:54] <meiwes> vandemar:yea,its a  dell
[10:54] <rurufufuss> is it possible to "cache" a particular directory into the ram?
[10:54] <histo> meiwes: Why is it not an optino?
[10:54] <yabesd> ohh
[10:54] <yabesd> -_-
[10:54] <histo> rurufufuss: You can mount stuff to tmpfs
[10:54] <meiwes> histo: I use it for some other things that would cost me if i upgraded,long story.
[10:55] <ikonia> histo: can you do that with a bind to a physical directoy, so it's actually on the disk, but held in ram for access ?
[10:55] <rurufufuss> histo: so, for example, mounting a whole minecraft folder to tmpfs?
[10:55] <swaikar> ritz, hey
[10:55] <Ben64> meiwes: desktop support for 8.04 ended in 2011, its not good to use anymore
[10:55] <Ben64> meiwes: furthermore, we can't support it
[10:55] <histo> ikonia: Haven't tried that. hrm.....
[10:55] <meiwes> Ben64: we... explain
[10:55] <Ben64> we = this channel
[10:55] <histo> rurufufuss: Why are you trying to do this?
[10:55] <histo> rurufufuss: is IO your problem?
[10:56] <rurufufuss> histo: trying to speed up compilation
[10:56] <ChrisReilly> dpkg can't configure packages, gets stuck on first package initscripts. mkdir: cannot create directory `/dev/shm': File exists
[10:56] <ChrisReilly> any help?
[10:56] <rurufufuss> lots of files to compile, and access to disk is pretty slow
[10:56] <meiwes> Ben64:Okay.I thought installing ff on /opt/firefox would be easy
[10:56] <histo> rurufufuss: Really how long could minecraft possibly take to compile?
[10:56] <rurufufuss> it also doesn't help that it's linking to .o files from everywhere, and not to mention the -l
[10:56] <Ben64> meiwes: not on a 5 year old install
[10:56] <rurufufuss> histo: minecraft was juts an example, it's for something else I'm developing
[10:56] <Ben64> meiwes: upgrade
[10:57] <meiwes> Ben64:I wish there was a way i could upgrade firefox only.
[10:57] <meiwes> Ben64:besides,i hate the latest version of ubuntu
[10:57] <Ben64> just upgrade the system. you've been missing security updates for almost 2 years
[10:58] <Ben64> you don't have to use unity
[10:58] <vandemar> and you might already have malware
[10:58] <ejv> 8.04, oh my lucky stars... :)
[10:58] <meiwes> WHY MUST I UPGRADE????/
[10:59] <histo> ikonia: I don't think you can. It's not a block device.
[10:59] <dr_willis> because you want newer stuff.....
[10:59] <Ben64> because you're running a 5 year old version of ubuntu!
[10:59] <Ben64> from 2008, there have been two more LTS versions since then!
[10:59] <cnf> hi, is there a guide somewhere on how to build .deb packages for kernel modules?
[10:59] <histo> rurufufuss: well tmpfs would not retain your files after reboot. So that option is outl
[10:59] <ejv> meiwes: here's one reason you should upgrade:
[10:59] <ejv> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-612-1/
[10:59] <rurufufuss> histo: yeah, hmm, oh well
[10:59] <ikonia> histo: does bind have to be to a block device ?
[11:00] <meiwes> Does this surprise anyone else?I want a new version of ubuntu,so what must i do,leave behind what has worked for me for 3 yrs + and install something i know nothing about.Its unfair.
[11:00] <ikonia> I thought you could do it on directories too
[11:00] <ikonia> I'm sure I have in the past
[11:00] <Ben64> ejv: i'm sure there are hundreds more reasons
[11:00] <ejv> yea but that's a major reason lol
[11:00] <ikonia> meiwes: you don't have to change anything
[11:00] <TakeItEZ> there is no need for  blockdevice
[11:00] <Ben64> meiwes: thats a silly mentality
[11:00] <ikonia> meiwes: you can use whatever version you want
[11:00] <dr_willis> meiwes:  people said same thing about windows 1.0
[11:01] <meiwes> Ben64:I meant a newer version of firefox
[11:01] <Ben64> why not just use a 486 with windows 3.1?
[11:01] <ejv> let him use 8.04 if he/she wants to; we simply don't have to support him/her. ;)
[11:01] <histo> ikonia: well if it's bind mounted would it cache automatically?
[11:01] <ikonia> histo: I don't know without looking to be honest
[11:01] <dr_willis> you are usng the windows 95 of ubuntu..   ;-)
[11:02] <ejv> no, the windows 95 of buntu was 6.06
[11:02] <meiwes> dr_willis:if it works,why upgrade
[11:02] <Ben64> 8.04 was great... before 2010
[11:02] <vandemar> meiwes: because it's not supported, which means bugs and security problems
[11:02] <meiwes> I could just upgrade firefox to newer firefox,problem solved,but that's not possible.
[11:02] <dr_willis> meiwes:  one word.... security
[11:02] <Touhou11> meiwes: If you want an OS which is supported for much longer, you should try Windows to be honest. You can still get the latest software for XP which released 11 years ago
[11:02] <Ben64> meiwes: no, that would not solve your problems
[11:02] <ikonia> meiwes: when canonical drops a distro's support, it gets no updates
[11:03] <vandemar> meiwes: do you want your bank accounts hijacked?  email hijacked?  do you want your computer to be part of some botnet?
[11:03] <Ben64> Touhou11: theres a lot of stuff that is windows 7/8 only now
[11:03] <meiwes> vandemar:Nope,that would be scary.
[11:03] <ikonia> meiwes: so you have choices a.) upgrade ubuntu to a supported version b.) stay with the last versions canonical support c.) build and maintain your own software on 8.04
[11:03] <ikonia> meiwes: you need to pick one of those options.
[11:03] <ejv> ok meiwes knows what he must do; let's not fall any further down this rabbit hole...
[11:03] <ejv> :)
[11:03] <ChrisReilly> Guys, guys, help me fix dpkg
[11:04] <ChrisReilly> it's getting stuck on initscripts after an update
[11:04] <histo> I'm running 5.04 here
[11:04] <Ben64> i'm on redhat 7, its the best
[11:04] <ChrisReilly> error is this: Setting up initscripts (2.88dsf-13.10ubuntu11.1) ...
[11:04] <ChrisReilly> mkdir: cannot create directory `/dev/shm': File exists
[11:04] <ejv> !pastebin | ChrisReilly
[11:04] <ikonia> ChrisReilly: what version of ubuntu are you running
[11:04] <ChrisReilly> 12.10
[11:04] <histo> And my server is 4.10
[11:05] <ikonia> ChrisReilly: and you upgraded from what version ?
[11:05] <ChrisReilly> 12.04
[11:05] <ikonia> ChrisReilly: ok, did the upgrade complete sucessfuly
[11:05] <n0-clu-0b> hi all
[11:05] <ChrisReilly> It was a little bit... shakey
[11:05] <ChrisReilly> I got the same errors
[11:05] <TakeItEZ> histo:some people do stupid things :)
[11:05] <ikonia> ChrisReilly: could you expand on that please
[11:05] <ChrisReilly> ikonia: dpkg complained at the end of the upgrade
[11:06] <ikonia> ChrisReilly: it's imporatnat to know the state of your machine
[11:06] <histo> I actually still have a 4.10 CD laying around. Was going through some old stuff.
[11:06] <ChrisReilly> ikonia: the same error, failed on initscripts, then (as it was a dependency) the remaining 8 or so packages failed
[11:07] <n0-clu-0b> can anybody help me with  vmware tools install
[11:07] <histo> !anyone | n0-clu-0b
[11:07] <ejv> yea, i've never, ever trusted ubuntu's upgrade tool; i prefer the time-tested burn disk / fresh install pathway to englightenment.
[11:07] <TakeItEZ> histo: i also have my slackware2-cd from 94, just no hardware/vm to install it on.
[11:08] <ChrisReilly> ejv: would have done so, but the box is a VM in a datacentre
[11:08] <ejv> a VM? should be easy then to wipe it out if need be
[11:08] <n0-clu-0b> point taken. lot to learn first time in irc
[11:08] <silv3r_m00n> how can apt-get be used to search for a package in the installed packages only ?
[11:09] <ChrisReilly> ejv: relatively so, but it's a little bit of a headache: the staff there don't get back to you very quickly
[11:09] <TakeItEZ> silv3r_m00n: dpkg -l '*pattern*'
[11:09] <histo> silv3r_m00n: dpkg -l | grep  patter
[11:09] <ejv> silv3r_m00n: man dpkg
[11:09] <n0-clu-0b> does anybody know how to install vmware tools
[11:09] <ChrisReilly> ejv: so if they don't pull off an image, I'll have to do it myself
[11:10] <dr_willis> !vmware
[11:10] <silv3r_m00n> TakeItEZ: can't be done with apt-get or aptitude ?
[11:10] <TakeItEZ> silv3r_m00n: aptitude should do, apt-get... i doubt
[11:10] <histo> silv3r_m00n: can you kill a fly with a sledge hammer?
[11:10] <silv3r_m00n> TakeItEZ: aptitude search firefox shows all packages that are named firefox, I want only the installed ones, preferably without doing a grep
[11:11] <Ben64> then use dpkg...?
[11:11] <dr_willis> gee soo picky
[11:11] <TakeItEZ> silv3r_m00n: you need switches, man aptitude (was it ~i?)
[11:11] <ChrisReilly> ikonia: I've googled around for the problem, and I think it's marked as a bug. But why is the configure script trying to create a directory that already exists anyways?
[11:11] <Night_Elf> Hello all. I am trying to configure a printer, Xerox WorkCentre 5645, which should do acounting and needs accounting user id and group id. It is not working and the printer gives out a page with "The job was deleted due to invalid accounting IDs". By googling, I see that many people have the same problem. So then, is there a working PPD for this printer which we can use?
[11:12] <TakeItEZ> silv3r_m00n: aptitude search '~i' firefox
[11:12] <TakeItEZ> silv3r_m00n: like that
[11:12] <Ben64> ChrisReilly: you should really pastebin some stuff
[11:13] <n0-clu-0b> does anybody no how persistent one has to be to get one's question answered
[11:13] <ejv> !patience | n0-clu-0b
[11:13] <ejv> i love this bot
[11:13] <truepurple> I put this drive on my system that is partitioned kind of funny, and it created all these .. I suppose you could call them "dummy drives" that are identical to partitions on the drive, except it says filesystem at the end, rather then files, and can't be accessed
[11:13] <Ben64> n0-clu-0b: vmware isn't supported here though
[11:14] <ejv> !vmware
[11:14] <truepurple> Anyone know what might be going on here?
[11:15] <n0-clu-0b> lol am just dicovering this great resource. thanks all
[11:15] <ChrisReilly> ikonia, Ben64: http://pastebin.com/RrAWSNG1
[11:15] <histo> truepurple: can you paste a screen shot please or pastebin lsblk
[11:16] <Physicist> Hello.. When I locked or close my laptop, my kubuntu does not return, look like a bug.
[11:16] <Physicist> Anybody can help me?
[11:16] <vandemar> which version of ubuntu?
[11:16] <truepurple> histo oops messed up, the mirror partitions have the same name, but are unmountable
[11:16] <Physicist> dr_willis?
[11:17] <truepurple> same name and size
[11:17] <Ben64> ChrisReilly: ls -ld /dev/shm
[11:17] <Physicist> dr_willis:
[11:17] <dr_willis> hmmm?
[11:17] <ejv> If you think it's a bug, then check out the project's launchpad, and see if it's been entered; if not, open a new bug.
[11:17] <ChrisReilly> Ben64: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 Feb 19 18:11 /dev/shm -> /run/shm
[11:18] <truepurple> and now they vanished when clicked on histo
[11:18] <dr_willis> bbl. driving home.
[11:18] <Physicist> dr_willis: I have a problem and need that you help me with it!
[11:19] <Physicist> dr_willis: When I locked or close my laptop, my kubuntu does not return, look like a bug.
[11:19] <ejv> Physicist: If you think it's a bug, then check out the project's launchpad, and see if it's been entered; if not, open a new bug.
[11:19] <Ben64> Physicist: everyone here is a volunteer, don't demand things of people
[11:19] <ejv> Physicist: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Bugs/Reporting
[11:20] <silv3r_m00n> TakeItEZ: aptitude search '~ifirefox'       thanks
[11:20] <Ben64> ChrisReilly: ls -ld /run/shm
[11:21] <truepurple> histo, except there is nothing to screenshot, the weird phantom drives just disappeared. And i don't know how to lsblk
[11:22] <ChrisReilly> Ben64: ls: cannot access /run/shm: No such file or directory
[11:23] <Meyer2436> Hey guys
[11:23] <Meyer2436> Somebody hère?
[11:24] <Ben64> ChrisReilly: well thats not normal
[11:24] <Ben64> Meyer2436: 1787 people
[11:24] <k1l> !ask | Meyer2436
[11:24] <Meyer2436> Ok sorry ;p
[11:24] <sjihs> Hi all, 'sudo apt-get install debootstrap' results in a 'defunct' dpkg process. Because of this I am unable to upgrade other packages.
[11:24] <ChrisReilly> Ben64: Any ideas?
[11:24] <Ben64> ChrisReilly: could you pastebin both "ls -ld /run" and "df -h"
[11:25] <ChrisReilly> roger
[11:25] <sjihs> i am using ubuntu 12.04
[11:26] <tozen> sjihs: sudo apt-get -f install ??
[11:26] <ChrisReilly> Ben64: http://pastebin.com/Q4eEJFMu
[11:26] <tozen> sudo dpkg --configure -a ??
[11:26] <sjihs> tozen: That again fails with a defunct dpkg process
[11:27] <Ben64> ChrisReilly: oh a vps?
[11:27] <ChrisReilly> Ben64: I mentioned that, I'm sure. Sorry.
[11:27] <Ben64> ChrisReilly: you'll probably need to contact your provider then
[11:28] <Ben64> ChrisReilly: you probably did mention it, but lots of lines go by here, its easy to miss stuff
[11:28] <tozen> sjinhh: pastebin the error please
[11:28] <tozen> sjihs: pastebin the error please
[11:28] <sjihs> tozen: ok
[11:29] <ChrisReilly> Ben64: OK, thanks. I'll open up a ticket. I'll have them dump out the homedirs and install 12.10. Thanks again.
[11:30] <Meyer2436> I've a problème with driver install for NVIDIA GC ( i need to because ubuntu is too slow ) but every proprietary driver doesn't work properly ( fast but no bar no icon and a 1024*768 resolution ) i tried to install NVIDIA drivers directly from the website but to install the command with ./N does not work
[11:30] <Meyer2436> Thank you
[11:33] <k1l> Meyer2436: which card do you have and why dont you try the nvidia-current (or the experimental) from the repo?
[11:33] <Meyer2436> GT520 but i triied a
[11:33] <Meyer2436> And this does not work*
[11:34] <k1l> you are sure you have the headers installed and the modul is build and running?
[11:35] <Meyer2436> Before changing anything all works good but very slow
[11:35] <Meyer2436> Headers and modul???
[11:36] <GeorgeJ_> I've installed ubuntu on a ssd. I've got LVM setup, and a sepparate partition for /home.
[11:36] <sjihs> tozen: http://pastie.org/6315942
[11:36] <GeorgeJ_> I'm trying to run fstrim -v /, but I get fstrim: /: FITRIM ioctl failed: Operation not supported. When running it on /home. There is no such issue.
[11:36] <sjihs> that is the error msg
[11:36] <k1l> Meyer2436: "sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-current"
[11:37] <GeorgeJ_> There's only one virtual group, and it only has one physical partition in it.
[11:37] <k1l> Meyer2436: after that show the whole output in a pastebin please
[11:37] <GeorgeJ_> Why can I run fstrim on /home and not on /?
[11:37] <sjihs> tozen: 3685 pts/6    00:00:00 dpkg-deb <defunct>
[11:37] <Meyer2436> I'm on my phone to talk
[11:38] <k1l> Meyer2436: keep the support in here, please
[11:39] <Meyer2436> No problem but is there irc on ubuntu at the start?
[11:39] <ikonia> GeorgeJ_: are you getting an error ?
[11:39] <ikonia> Meyer2436: "at the start" ?
[11:39] <tozen> sjihs: gimme a min
[11:39] <Meyer2436> By default*
[11:39] <sjihs> tozen: sure
[11:39] <ikonia> Meyer2436: what do you mean ?
[11:39] <GeorgeJ_> ikonia: Yes, I am, I've said so earlier.
[11:39] <ikonia> GeorgeJ_: I didn't see it so I can't help, sorry
[11:39] <ikonia> good luck
[11:40] <Meyer2436> I have installed no a
[11:40] <GeorgeJ_> This is the error I'm getting: fstrim: /: FITRIM ioctl failed: Operation not supported
[11:40] <Meyer2436> Programs for now
[11:40] <ikonia> GeorgeJ_: that looks like the file system will not support it
[11:40] <utf> exit
[11:40] <utf> (you fail)
[11:41] <GeorgeJ_> Both / and /home reside on the same LVM virtual group, which only has one physical partition in it(which is on te ssd).
[11:41] <GeorgeJ_> running fstrim on /home works just fine.
[11:41] <GeorgeJ_> Both are ext4, mounted with the same options
[11:42] <Meyer2436> k1l: finishing install
[11:44] <Meyer2436> So what do i do now
[11:44] <k1l> Meyer2436: ok, can you show the output in a pastebin?
[11:45] <Meyer2436> What does it mean? Copy all the terminal and paste it here?
[11:45] <k1l> !paste | Meyer2436
[11:45] <GeorgeJ_> I didn't have this issue on 13.04, so perhaps it might be a known bug.
[11:46] <Meyer2436> If i do not have IRC on my pc can i do it?
[11:46] <tozen> sjihs: did u tried to reinstall it? sudo apt-get install --reinstall debootstrap
[11:47] <k1l> Meyer2436: you get a short link, that can you post over your phone here. or use empathy, xchat or irssi to start irc on that computer
[11:47] <sjihs> tozen: That again results in a defunct dpkg-deb process
[11:48] <cnf> right
[11:48] <cnf> back to compiling kernel modules for other machines
[11:49] <cnf> failing miserably atm :/
[11:49] <Meyer2436> Used paste.ubuntu.com but an error occured.. ( sorry )
[11:49] <alabah> hello
[11:49] <alabah> hey
[11:50] <tozen> sjihs: so what u can try to do is: sudo gedit /var/lib/dpkg/status and find the block named debootstrap after you'll need to delete all info between <Package Name: debootstrap> till the next <Package Name:>
[11:50] <sjihs> tozen: ok. I will try that now
[11:50] <tozen> sjihs: then sudo apt-get -f install
[11:53] <Meyer2436> Please...
[11:54] <k1l> Meyer2436: mark that text in the terminal, copy that into the pastbin site and clikc enter. show the new url here. (its like uploading a picture)
[11:55] <Meyer2436> I did it but does not work
[11:55] <Meyer2436> ( an error occured )
[11:56] <Meyer2436> Ah
[11:56] <tozen> sjihs: i mean from <Package name: debootstrap> till next <Package name:>
[11:56] <Meyer2436> Hold on a sec
[11:56] <cnf> Jewfro-Macabbi: why the hell are you pasting me random stuff in pm?
[11:57] <Meyer2436> pastebin.com/pbbcMN2v
[11:57] <tozen> vlad_starkov: otkuda ty, brat?
[11:58] <tvw> Hi, can someone respond to this? I want to know how the notification works in unity, when someone responds to me.
[11:58] <AlanBell> tvw: this isn't the best channel to use for testing things, but here you go
[11:59] <tozen> tvw: what really do u mean?
[11:59] <tvw> AlanBell: I know, but it worked.
[11:59] <k1l> Meyer2436: "Module build for the currently running kernel was skipped since the kernel source for this kernel does not seem to be installed."
[11:59] <cnf> weird o,O
[12:00] <k1l> Meyer2436: that is the problem. you need the kernel headers installed
[12:00] <Meyer2436> What can i do?
[12:00] <Meyer2436> Please* ;)
[12:01] <cnf> damnit, i don't get why my kernel modules won't run on any system it wasn't compiled on
[12:02] <k1l> Meyer2436: "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic"
[12:02] <k1l> Meyer2436: shot that output again in a pastebin
[12:02] <tvw> tozen: I am new to unity and wonder a bit, whether and how the notification works with konversation, since it does not display an icon in the tray like in the gnome desktop.
[12:03] <Meyer2436> Now i cannot because xserver crashed so i  restarted and now i have no interface exept my mouse and my wallpaper
[12:03] <Meyer2436> I managed to launch the terminal with ctrl alt t
[12:05] <Meyer2436> Install done but how could i launch firefox with the terminal to send you pastebin plz
[12:06] <Touhou11> Ubuntu Pastebin appears to be broken
[12:06] <jpds> Touhou11: How so?
[12:07] <sjihs> tozen: At my work place, we have a local repository for pkgs provided by my company. When executing 'sudo apt-get -f install', dpkg fails to configure these packages
[12:07] <One-Man-Bucket> hello, after applying updates today my gnome-classic shell added unity
[12:07] <One-Man-Bucket> what's up with that, and how can i revert it?
[12:07] <Touhou11> jpds: When submitting the form, it gives an error and tells you to contact the admin, but doesn't give any email
[12:07] <sjihs> tozen: I am sorry that I cannot paste the error msg, since it is against the work rules
[12:07] <Meyer2436> k1l: ?
[12:07] <jpds> Touhou11: Interesting, checking.
[12:08] <k1l> Meyer2436: alt+f2 and type firefox
[12:09] <leonardo_> panino tirolese
[12:09] <k1l> Meyer2436: did it say it installed the kernel headers for your kernel? like 3.5.0-17 was your kernel i think
[12:09] <sjihs> tozen: Do you have any other suggestions
[12:10] <Meyer2436> I see a 3.5.0-25
[12:11] <Meyer2436> setting linux-headers-3.5.0-25 etc...
[12:11] <tozen> sjihs: sorry i've none
[12:11] <sjihs> tozen: np. Thanks for your help
[12:11] <One-Man-Bucket> anyone?
[12:11] <k1l> Meyer2436: ok what does "uname - a" tell you?
[12:11] <k1l> Meyer2436: that will name the kernel you are running. you need that kernel headers for that because with that kernel headers the nvidia driver can be build properly.
[12:12] <Meyer2436> 3.5.0-17-generic
[12:13] <cabee> hi guys, having a problem with rxtx libs.used minicom but it failed. Then installed rxtx and the reader connects but seems to not open any serial port.any1 know what the problem coulb be?
[12:13] <aarfer> hello, i just installed my OS, and i did this:  sudo apt-add-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa   then after, this:  sudo apt-get install nvidia-current nvidia-settings                  at this site:  http://www.howopensource.com/2012/10/install-nvidia-geforce-driver-in-ubuntu-12-10-12-04-using-ppa/
[12:13] <sjihs> tozen: I got 'sudo apt-get -f install' to return normally (i.e. without error code)
[12:14] <aarfer> now when i just rebooted, my screen is black, but the mouse is there.... and can move around.
[12:14] <tozen> sjihs: so?
[12:14] <sjihs> tozen: should i just do 'apt-get upgrade' now?
[12:14] <sjihs> to get rid of the debootstrap issue
[12:14] <tozen> sjihs: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:15] <sjihs> tozen: ok
[12:15] <an0nym0u8> Hey !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:16] <k1l> Meyer2436: ok. we do 2 commands now: the first one to make sure the kernel headers for that kernel get installed and the reinstall the nvidia driver to get build proberly. wait a sec
[12:16] <tozen> sjihs: also don't forget to activate restricted and recommended updates ;)
[12:16] <Meyer2436> Thank you
[12:16] <sjihs> tozen: ok
[12:17] <an0nym0u8>  /msg alis anon * -min30
[12:17] <k1l> Meyer2436: "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-3.5.0-17-generic" and after that
[12:17] <One-Man-Bucket> latest automatic updates broke gnome-classic (now starts unity), how do i fix this?
[12:17] <srinivas> hi i accidentally executed sudo apt-get remove python
[12:17] <k1l> Meyer2436: "sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-current"
[12:18] <srinivas> so i tried to connect to wifi to get my packages reinstall..so i have executed sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "name" key "password"
[12:19] <srinivas> but it is giving me errors saying that "SET failed on device wlan0;Invalid argument"
[12:20] <Meyer2436> k1l: Done
[12:20] <srinivas> hi i accidentally executed sudo apt-get remove python, so i tried to connect to wifi to get my packages reinstall..so i have executed sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "name" key "password",but it is giving me errors saying that "SET failed on device wlan0;Invalid argument"
[12:21] <k1l> Meyer2436: take a look at the last command if it still says: "Module build for the currently running kernel was skipped since the kernel source for this kernel does not seem to be installed."
[12:21] <Meyer2436> I don't see it at the finish
[12:22] <ubuntuw1204> is there an official ubuntu gnome distro?
[12:22] <k1l> Meyer2436: ok than make a reboot
[12:22] <k1l> ubuntuw1204: if you mean "gubuntu" no official one so far
[12:23] <Physicist> I am really trouble.. Again, whemn I close my laptop my system crash anb I have to restart to use..
[12:23] <Physicist> *when*
[12:23] <L3mce> if I install a backported kernel image, can i leave the headers alone?
[12:24] <L3mce> meaning keep the current headers version
[12:24] <Physicist> I read the page of lanchpad, but, do not resolved.
[12:25] <Meyer2436> k1l: It seems to work faster thank you
[12:26] <k1l> Meyer2436: ok. it should load the nvidia driver now
[12:26] <Meyer2436> k1l: ?
[12:27] <Meyer2436> k1l: what do you mean , load itself or i should be able to install it?
[12:27] <k1l> Meyer2436: you have the right driver now
[12:27] <Noorideen> Unity > gnome3?
[12:27] <Meyer2436> k1l: ah ok thank you a lot
[12:33] <Physicist_> I found one thing.
[12:33] <joelio> hmm... cifs mounting in 12.04 is broken (has been working and is broken across my estate of dozens of machines)
[12:33] <joelio> I'm getting codepage errors
[12:33] <joelio> Fefora mounts fine the same shares
[12:33] <joelio> so does windows, OSX
[12:33] <joelio> Ubuntu is broken
[12:34] <joelio> I can successfully smbclient, but mount -t cifs ... broken
[12:34] <Physicist_> Bug #995013 - "xorg freeze"
[12:35] <Physicist_> ubottu: yes little robot!!
[12:37] <max3> is it possible to have different workspaces on different monitors on a dual monitor setup?
[12:37] <jm_> no
[12:37] <max3> are you sure?
[12:37] <jm_> no
[12:39] <L3mce> Physicist_: I did not see your original issue... but that bug is particularly annoying for me.
[12:41] <sjihs> tozen: Thanks a lot. It works fine now.
[12:41] <L3mce> !info i965-va-driver | Physicist_ I find this improves the performance of all intel for some reason, however is very unlikely to resolve that bug. I am not on your release.
[12:42] <dbe> I need a user to pastebin some data; is there a pastebin package that I can pipe data into and it'll output a URL?
[12:42] <L3mce> !pastebinit
[12:42] <dbe> L3mce: Thank you.
[12:42] <L3mce> np
[12:43] <Physicist_> L3mce: When I close my laptop, it crash.. It not configured to suspend - "do nothing" - Me too actually, is not my problem. I just saw!!
[12:44] <Vulcano> hey can anyone help me install and configure ZNC on Cygwin?
[12:44] <Physicist_> My system is not an Intel. APU AMD 3500 - Radeon 6620G - 64bit
[12:44] <L3mce> That's... weird... lemme think... dont have coffee yet.
[12:45] <L3mce> sorry Physicist_ was just looking at your bug, which is related to the intel gpu stuffs... are you running fglrx?
[12:46] <Physicist_> L3mce: No. 13.2 Beta driver AMD.. I did a clean installation. All dependencies right.
[12:47] <lotuspsychje> Physicist_:you could try a 'nomodeset' option to boot just to test out
[12:50] <L3mce> Physicist_: for the record that is fglrx. +1 lotuspsychje might also try no-acpi (let me check that is the correct verbiage)
[12:51] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | Physicist_
[12:52] <Asad2005> What is the channel name for ubuntu touch?
[12:52] <DJones> Asad2005: #ubuntu-touch
[12:52] <grizmawe> Asad2005, for the phone? #ubuntu-phone
[12:52] <DJones> Asad2005: You could also try #ubuntu-phone or #ubuntu-tablet
[12:53] <Physicist_> Thank you all. I will see and return to tell.
[12:53] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu tablet..exciting :p
[12:53] <Physicist_> I am in the school now. :-)
[12:53] <Touhou11> Whatever happened to Ubuntu TV? Vaporware?
[12:53] <L3mce> Physicist_: acpi=off I believe is correct
[12:54] <fasfasf> hi
[12:55] <Physicist_> L3mce: Ok. Got it.
[12:57] <marcusraven> I'm trying to setup encrypted home partition; I have the correct entry in /etc/crypttab, the correct entry in /etc/fstab, and have loaded "dm-mod" and "dm-crypt" in /etc/modules. However, during boot i'm not asked for my password, and /dev/mapper/linux-encr-home device is never created. I have to manually run "cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda4 linux-encr-home" and then mount my home dir. So it only works when run manually after boot, not during boo
[12:57] <marcusraven> t process...
[12:57] <johnflux_> L3mce: hi - sorry I saw you talking about the intel drivers
[12:57] <marcusraven> Also, using 12.04
[12:58] <johnflux_> L3mce: I have the i915 chipset, and I get video screen corruption
[13:01] <L3mce> Hi johnflux_ have you tried the driver mentioned there?
[13:01] <L3mce> it isnt really a driver
[13:01] <eric_99> I have ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS, but when I try cat /etc/debian_version it gives me wheezy/sid... wheezy/sid is testing/unstable debian version... Why does it give me that?
[13:01] <L3mce> it is a compliment of sorts... however it makes everything happier... most especially what it was intended for... your chipset.
[13:02] <DJones> eric_99: No idea why it does that, but I get the same on 12.10
[13:02] <rurufufuss> so I just got an SSD drive installed. How do I mount it so I can access it without being root (so it's like a normal folder etc)?
[13:03] <L3mce> rurufufuss: mount requires root priv.
[13:03] <L3mce> access does not
[13:03] <eric_99> ..
[13:03] <aarfer> hi. i just installed nvidia drivers. now i have a black screen and can't do anything useful.
[13:03] <aarfer> this sucks.
[13:03] <Ogham> Does anyone have the new Dell project sputnik ultrabook with ubuntu?
[13:03] <L3mce> aarfer: how did you install the drivers?
[13:04] <rurufufuss> L3mce: so basically, I have to mount it to a local folder after logging in all the time?
[13:04] <L3mce> !anyone | Ogham
[13:04] <Ogham> ....
[13:04] <lotuspsychje> rurufufuss:ntfs or ext?
[13:04] <rurufufuss> lotuspsychje: ext3
[13:04] <L3mce> rurufufuss: you can put it in /etc/fstab
[13:05] <aarfer> L3mce,  i added a ppa, and then did the sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings nvidia-current
[13:05] <L3mce> !ppa
[13:05] <lotuspsychje> !ask | Ogham
[13:05] <Ogham> Dell Project Sputnik Ultrabook - Please, want lspci output :)
[13:05] <rurufufuss> L3mce: ah right, any visual fstab system tools or should I go command line?
[13:05] <L3mce> aarfer: lspci -nn | grep VGA
[13:06] <alvesjnr> hi all
[13:06] <aarfer> I HAVE A BLACK SCREEN.
[13:06] <lotuspsychje> !patience | aarfer
[13:06] <aarfer> i have a geforce 6800.
[13:06] <alvesjnr> do you know any tutorial/howto/cookbook to port quickly-created applications to run on Windows?
[13:06] <L3mce> !ssh | aarfer
[13:07] <johnflux_> alvesjnr: written in which language?
[13:07] <lotuspsychje> Ogham: this is a support channel mate, if you just tell us what you want to ask?
[13:07] <srhb> alvesjnr: That depends so much on what kind of application and what it's written in.
[13:07] <Ogham> lotuspsychje: I'd like to see the lspci output for the new Dell Ultrabook (developer edition with ubuntu)
[13:07] <lotuspsychje> Ogham:for what purpose
[13:08] <aarfer> it's quicker to format it than to fail at fixing it.
[13:08] <Ogham> lotuspsychje: To get an idea of what hardware is onboard.
[13:08] <alvesjnr> johnflux_: python
[13:08] <L3mce> aarfer: Not really. Try booting with the nomodeset option.
[13:08] <lotuspsychje> !offtopic | 0gham
[13:08] <johnflux_> alvesjnr: using which gui toolkit?
[13:08] <Ogham> Jesus Wept
[13:08]  * Ogham eats a yellow mold
[13:09] <L3mce> !nomodeset | aarfer
[13:09] <alvesjnr> srhb: my app is windows compatible, my issue is with the GUI
[13:09] <alvesjnr> johnflux_: gtk
[13:09] <srhb> alvesjnr: Some of the common Python GUI toolkits are completely portable.
[13:09] <srhb> Well, at least tkinter is :-)
[13:09] <johnflux_> alvesjnr: maybe then
[13:10] <srhb> alvesjnr: With PyGTK for Windows you should be all set.
[13:10] <alvesjnr> srhb: I'll google it. Tks
[13:13] <medeman> Hey guys, I'm using an Acer Aspire One 756 11,6" Notebook with Ubuntu 12.10 64-Bit - and it's a bit weird
[13:13] <lotuspsychje> medeman:what your issue
[13:13] <medeman> Sometimes everything runs "butter-smooth", but then sometimes the Unity animations freeze or look weird
[13:14] <lotuspsychje> medeman:did you enabled network boot in BIOS?
[13:14] <medeman> I think it was activated by default, but I'm booting from HDD
[13:15] <lotuspsychje> medeman: aspire one got win7 by default right, i had to enable network boot to not freeze ubuntu
[13:16] <medeman> I got it without OS, I think some CLI-only linux came pre-installed but I replaced that with Ubuntu 12.10
[13:16] <medeman> It's not freezing, it is just not running as smooth as it should sometimes, while other times it works very well
[13:17] <lotuspsychje> medeman: i would try this option mate, see what it does
[13:17] <medeman> Okay I'll see what it does, brb
[13:17] <lotuspsychje> medeman: my acer netbook works flawless now on 12.10 64bit
[13:17] <medeman> And, thank you
[13:17] <lotuspsychje> np
[13:20] <capoderra1> I saw a video on youtube of someone who showed all his ubuntu applications and he had "nvidia settings".  Why don't I have that?
[13:21] <MonkeyDust> capoderra1  better start from the beginning, what have you tried before you came here... in one line
[13:21] <medeman> lotuspsychje, network boot is enabled
[13:21] <ubuntuw1204> how much data do i download if i use ubuntu minimal.iso
[13:22] <capoderra1> I tried click on "additional drivers" but it didn't list anything.  I have a nvidia geforce 310m
[13:22] <lotuspsychje> medeman:cool mate, check this url http://askubuntu.com/questions/82724/aspire-one-freezing-due-to-network
[13:23] <Physicist> nomodeset did not work. Crash in the same way.
[13:23] <ubuntuw1204> and is there any rolling ubuntu distro?
[13:24] <Physicist> ubuntuw1204: I believe not!
[13:24] <lotuspsychje> Physicist:did you clean install or upgrade
[13:24] <medeman> lotuspsychje, it's not freezing completely - it never crashed actually - it just feels weird because sometimes the GUI is super-smooth and sometimes the animations are all like 5 FPS or so...
[13:24] <capoderra1> MonkeyDust, I tried to click on "additional drivers" but it didn't list anything.  I have a nvidia geforce 310m
[13:25] <ubuntuw1204> Physicist: how much data is dowloaded in ubuntu minimal cd install process>
[13:25] <lotuspsychje> medeman: strange, i have no animation issues here
[13:25] <Moka> hi
[13:26] <Physicist> lotuspsychje: No. Clean install - Kubuntu 12.10
[13:26] <ubuntuw1204> which rolling distro should i use?
[13:27] <medeman> I mean I'm not expecting ultra performance from a netbook, but the GUI should run smooth at least - seeing that the Amazon ratings suggest that it runs butter-smooth with Windows 7 for example
[13:27] <MonkeyDust> capoderra1  start here and repeat your question ever 10 minutes, until someone enters who can help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto
[13:27] <Physicist> ubuntuw1204: 720mb more or less..
[13:27] <Physicist> depend.
[13:27] <ubuntuw1204> ok
[13:28] <Physicist> ubuntuw1204: look at Home Ubuntu official site.
[13:28] <capoderra1> MonkeyDust, thanks buddy
[13:28] <Physicist> I come back later, I am a little busy... Thanks
[13:28] <medeman> lotuspsychje, I mean even some games run very well for a netbook - like Minecraft ~28FPS - and GUI shouldn't be as demanding as a game, right?
[13:29] <lotuspsychje> medeman: i have no trouble on my netbook here, did you also clean install 12.10?
[13:29] <ubuntuw1204> Physicist: where exactly at home ubuntu?
[13:29] <ubuntuw1204> is there any alternate to ubuntu rolling distro?
[13:30] <OerHeks> ubuntuw1204, ubuntu is NOT a rolling distro.
[13:30] <elijah> How would I find out when Compiz 0.9.7.14 is going to get pulled into 12.04?
[13:30] <medeman> Oh now the software update doesn't work anymore: W:Failed to fetch http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal-updates/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found [IP: 141.30.13.10 80]
[13:30] <medeman> , E:Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[13:30] <elijah> Current is Compiz 0.9.7.12
[13:31] <ubuntuw1204> OerHeks: I know , that is why i want to know any alternate stable ubuntu distro which is rolling?
[13:31] <lotuspsychje> medeman: no i mean did you clean install 12.10 fresh or did you update from previous ubuntu version?
[13:32] <OerHeks> ubuntuw1204, rolling ?
[13:32] <MonkeyDust> elijah  in 12.10 it's compiz 0.9.8.6 ... so maybe if you used backports you'd get a newer version
[13:32] <ubuntuw1204> OerHeks: yes!
[13:32] <OerHeks> ubuntuw1204, what do you mean with rolling ? ubuntu is not.
[13:33] <medeman> lotuspsychje, I installed Ubuntu 12.10 fresh from USB - I created a new partition table and then let the Ubuntu installer do the rest
[13:33] <lotuspsychje> medeman:should run smooth, did your grafix card install proper driver?
[13:35] <medeman> lotuspsychje, I don't know, but as I said, many games perform pretty OK for a netbook so I think it was installed properly - but now that you ask, I remember that the Steam Big Picture Mode for example produced some graphical glitches like only showing half of the buttons - also Minecraft had flickering chunks very often
[13:35] <lotuspsychje> medeman: check lspci for your grafix card plz
[13:37] <medeman> lotuspsychje, paste.ubuntu.com doesn't work for me "An error has occured"
[13:38] <lotuspsychje> medeman: lshw -c video
[13:38] <lotuspsychje> medeman: and check card brand and driver activated for it
[13:38] <medeman> lotuspsychje, oh okay...
[13:40] <lotuspsychje> medeman: i got this: product: Wrestler [Radeon HD 6290]  driver=radeon
[13:41] <medeman> lotuspsychje, well I think it's some Intel HD graphics
[13:41] <medeman> lotuspsychje, http://pastebin.com/QJzgRRkH
[13:42] <lotuspsychje> medeman: not sure about intel graphics card issues on acer and ubuntu
[13:43] <medeman> lotuspsychje, hmm okay...33MHz seems a little slow to me, or is it without some multiplicator stuff?
[13:43] <lotuspsychje> medeman: i915 drivers seems activated
[13:43] <medeman> lotuspsychje, and is that good?
[13:44] <mskau> Need help: No screen output on newly installed 12.10 server (only virtual machine host added to default settings)
[13:44] <lotuspsychje> medeman: that driver is installed is a good thing for ubuntu, but im not sure about how good your card performs
[13:44] <MonkeyDust> mskau  #ubuntu-server
[13:44] <lotuspsychje> medeman: ##hardware might know it for you
[13:44] <mskau> Ok, thx
[13:45] <medeman> lotuspsychje, okay...Well I don't think it's a powerhouse, but it should handle GUI well seeing that it runs well with Windows 7 Aero
[13:45] <lotuspsychje> medeman: maybe some bugs on intel and ubuntu, not sure bout it
[13:45] <lotuspsychje> medeman: or other workarounds
[13:46] <lotuspsychje> medeman: reask your issue once in a while in chat on your lags and card brand
[13:46] <lotuspsychje> someone might know
[13:46] <medeman> lotuspsychje, hmm okay thank you
[13:47] <someone235> when I do the cmd: "php /home/posFinder/script.php > /home/posFinder/log/script 2>$1" I Get "-bash: $1: ambiguous redirect". How can I fix this?
[13:48] <jrib> someone235: change $ to &
[13:49] <lotuspsychje> medeman: you can also try nomodeset
[13:49] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | medeman
[13:50] <lobato> Why ubuntu 12.04 never shutdown?
[13:50] <medeman> lotuspsychje, okay, thank you
[13:51] <MonkeyDust> lobato  in a terminal, type sudo shutdown -h now   does that work?
[13:51] <lobato> yes, i'm aware of the commands
[13:51] <lobato> i'm a linux admin on my work place
[13:52] <someone235> jrib, thanks!
[13:52] <lotuspsychje> lol
[13:52] <lobato> I admin about 13 machines running ubuntu, and some debian
[13:52] <lotuspsychje> lobato: you could asnwer him and say how that works out for you
[13:52] <dr_willis> so... that command does work properly?
[13:52] <lobato> we have some fancy nfs system running too
[13:53] <lobato> the command it works, but ubuntu fails to complete shutdown
[13:53] <lobato> get stuck in the middle
[13:53] <lobato> on several machines
[13:53] <lobato> and also on debian weezy
[13:54] <MonkeyDust> !enter | lobato
[13:54] <lotuspsychje> lobato: any logs on that?
[13:54] <jn_> Hello
[13:55] <jn_> I want to have the ssl lib 0.9.8
[13:55] <lobato> I tought had some to do with the nfs unmounting but looking on the stdout and says it umounted all. How can I log the shutdown output?
[13:56] <jn_> whren i do openssl version it's 1.0.1. I try this : sudo apt-get install libssl0.9.8 but when i do openssl version, it's still Openssl 1.0.4
[13:56] <dr_willis> !find ssllib
[13:56] <lotuspsychje> lobato: /var/log
[13:57] <amrit> im unable to remove crossplatformui
[13:57] <amrit> plz anyone help
[13:57] <amrit> it is creating a serious issue.
[13:57] <lobato> lotuspsychje,  wich log file is?
[13:57] <Night_Elf> Hello all. I am trying to configure a printer, Xerox WorkCentre 5645, which should do acounting and needs accounting user id and group id. It is not working and the printer gives out a page with "The job was deleted due to invalid accounting IDs". By googling, I see that many people have the same problem. So then, is there a working PPD for this printer which we can use?
[13:57] <dr_willis> and how did you install it? amrit
[13:58] <lotuspsychje> lobato: kern.log
[13:58] <dr_willis> Night_Elf: checked askubuntu.com yet?
[13:58] <MonkeyDust> amrit  what's crossplatformui ?
[13:59] <Night_Elf> dr_willis: not yet. But have seen some other places around on the net. With the same outcome. Will check there too then.
[13:59] <lobato> what shall i look for on this log. seems all normal
[14:00] <nino_> Hello everyone,
[14:00] <nino_> Does anyone know why i cant go in ubuntu anymore after kernel upgrade from 3.2.0-23-generic to linux-image-3.2.0-38-generic??? I only get a black screen i want to go in the new kernel. If i go to the previous one everything is fine.
[14:00] <Night_Elf> dr_willis: It would also seem that this is not only Ubuntu speciffic, but somehow a more generic issue with the PPD file (maybe).
[14:00] <amrit> i dont remeber, i had a reliance datacard and ubuntu 10.04 , i tried installing it , i manuall changed sone configuration files, still it did not help. after upgrading to 12.04 computer said it failed to remove crossplatformui. now whenever im trying to upgrade or download any software this crossplatformui is creating problem
[14:00] <rurufufuss> so I just made a ramdisk by doing  "sudo mount -t tmpfs -o size=2048M tmpfs ramtest"
[14:00] <rurufufuss> how do I unmount that?
[14:00] <lotuspsychje> lobato: http://askubuntu.com/questions/155733/ubuntu-12-04-not-shutting-down-properly
[14:01] <amrit> its reliance datacard software
[14:02] <nino_> Hello everyone,
[14:02] <thinknow> when should openvpn get into the network manager again?
[14:02] <nino_> Does anyone know why i cant go in ubuntu anymore after kernel upgrade from 3.2.0-23-generic to linux-image-3.2.0-38-generic??? I only get a black screen i want to go in the new kernel. If i go to the previous one everything is fine.
[14:02] <lobato> nino_, , sometimes when i have this black screen issue on ubuntu kernel updates, normaly has someting to do with my video driver, wich is nvdia, so i need to edit my grub execution line
[14:02] <thinknow> as in ubuntu 10 and earlier ?
[14:02] <dr_willis> installed via a. deb or how amrit ?
[14:02] <nino_> Lobato how do i do that?
[14:02] <amrit> no. i tried reading instructions from net to manually install it by typing some codes
[14:03] <nino_> I have Nvidia to
[14:04] <dr_willis> amrit: and the exact issues are?
[14:04] <lobato> nino_,  when at grub menu, press 'e' to edit the startup command, and after the word 'splash' put 'nomodeset' and press 'Ctrl+F10' to start ubuntu without  try using your video card driver and uses generic video
[14:04] <thinknow> when should openvpn get into the network manager again? Or how to make it possible?!
[14:05] <MonkeyDust> amrit  i read here, it's some development tool, java and c++
[14:05] <dr_willis> !openvpn
[14:05] <thinknow> lobato, : on the startup command, what does the insmod_msdos  ++ means?
[14:05] <nino_> Lobato how do i het the Nvidia driver working againt after doing that?
[14:05] <nino_> _get_
[14:05] <lobato> thinknow, not sure
[14:05] <thinknow> does everyone have it?
[14:06] <shantilove> bonjour
[14:06] <thinknow> i can understand why msdos should be inside linux?
[14:06] <thinknow> cant
[14:06] <lotuspsychje> !fr | shantilove
[14:06] <shantilove>  sur quel salon je pourrais trouver quelqun pour m'aider
[14:06] <amrit> neither me nor the system is able to uninstall it. whenever i am trying to install any software , the crossplatformui is creating problem
[14:06] <lobato> nino_, after this you can reinstall nvidia driver with 'sudo apt-get reinstall nvidia-current'
[14:06] <shantilove> oki
[14:06] <lobato> if you uses nvidia driver
[14:07] <BluesKaj> Hiya all
[14:07] <lobato> i mean nvidia (recommended) driver
[14:07] <nino_> Okay , your information is very helpfull! Thankyou for your help i will try that:)
[14:07] <dr_willis> amrit: what issue. pastebin error messages..
[14:07] <lobato> cheers :)
[14:08] <karpuragauram> Hey everyone. U was upgrading to precise from lucid via net. The disk space is full and it shows 25 mins remaining.  What should I do
[14:08] <gene_> anyone knows how to find chrome os cursor theme for linux?
[14:09] <dr_willis> karpuragauram: still downloading?
[14:09] <amrit> file:///home/amrit/Desktop/cross.png
[14:09] <MonkeyDust> !themes | gene_
[14:09] <amrit> is it visible
[14:09] <amrit> ?
[14:09] <dr_willis> amrit: we cant see that.
[14:10] <karpuragauram> Yes. I went to sleep with the comp on. I had freed up 2.2 more gigs but even that was not enough. :(
[14:10] <MonkeyDust> amrit  use imagebin to show it to the channel
[14:11] <karpuragauram> Now am stuck on the installing the upgrades section 25 libs remaining
[14:11] <karpuragauram> Mns
[14:11] <amrit> where is imagebin?
[14:11] <mmghjk> Hello. When I turn on my laptop, the frequency of my CPU always goes to max. value, which increases the temperature to 70 C. How to set a default value always when I turn it on/awake from suspension?
[14:11] <mmghjk> I use CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor 1.4.0 btw
[14:12] <MonkeyDust> amrit  http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add
[14:15] <karpuragauram> dr_willis what could I do now  ??
[14:15] <amrit> is it visible
[14:15] <MonkeyDust> amrit  paste the url here in the channel
[14:16] <dr_willis> karpuragauram: how big was the hd?
[14:17] <apfeltasche> hi
[14:18] <karpuragauram> HD is only 60 gb.  but I freed 2.5 gb from root as agsinst 1.3 requested by the upgrade
[14:18] <raj> dr_willis, still at at it!
[14:19] <raj> you're freaking superhuman
[14:19] <MonkeyDust> amrit  like so: http://imagebin.org/247733
[14:19]  * karpuragauram agrees with raj
[14:21] <karpuragauram> ?????
[14:21] <MonkeyDust> amrit  this is yours: http://imagebin.org/247732
[14:23] <karpuragauram> help.. if I don't do anything the system will be broken :(
[14:24] <madpup> Quick question, are amd 7870 stable under ubuntu??
[14:24] <apfeltasche> what version of ubuntu do you use ?
[14:24] <madpup> 12.10
[14:24] <apfeltasche> with unity?
[14:25] <madpup> cinnamon
[14:25]  * Dowesas 2x2 on
[14:25] <dr_willis> its past my bedtime.. but the grandkid is getting  his tonsils out..
[14:26] <dr_willis> so hanging at the hospital. chat at ya laters.
[14:26] <karpuragauram> anyone. I am stuck at 'installing the upgrades ' can I shut the system down. the upgrading stopped at 25 libs left due to disk space problems
[14:26] <karpuragauram> 25 mins left
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> laters dr_willis
[14:27] <BluesKaj> karpuragauram, how much space did you create for your OS ?
[14:27] <genii-around> karpuragauram: Turning the power off in the middle of a large operation like that usually doesn't end well
[14:28] <madpup> or should i just pull it, sell it and use the cpu's built in hd 4000 (i5 3570k)?
[14:29] <karpuragauram> I was net upgrading and it asked me to free 1.3 gb on root. I freed 2.5. I have a old system and 60 gb whole hdd.
[14:29] <vandemar> if you don't need high 3d performance for gaming, use the onboard intel gpu.  it'll save on your power bill too.
[14:29] <JeffJassky> hey, guys. I have a 10.04 server box. I'm trying to permanently limit CPU usage for processes with a specific name. I tried googling around a bit but haven't found anything that would do it permanently.
[14:30] <JeffJassky> Might anyone know of a solution?
[14:30] <madpup> cool, will it run flash, hd video?
[14:31] <genii-around> JeffJassky: If these processes are daemons which are started by upstart, you could do something like add a renice number for them into their conf file
[14:31] <karpuragauram> Blueskaj do I have a choice or is manual install the only option left.
[14:31] <karpuragauram> genii-around any advice
[14:32] <JeffJassky> genii-around: I'm a real noob when it comes to this stuff.. what is upstart?
[14:32] <genii-around> karpuragauram: You said you made room, but how much room is on your /boot area?
[14:33] <vandemar> madpup: yes, intel gma4000 will play hd video easily.  it's 3d where you start seeing significant differences in stand-alone ati/nvidia
[14:33] <madpup> i just found, google, a program called cpulimit, that claims to limit processes to a percentage.
[14:33] <diki> Question.
[14:33] <yown> What is a good program for securely deleting data with ext4?
[14:34] <madpup> cheers vand will try
[14:34] <karpuragauram> I had a total of 10 gb on lucid and now _increased it to 12 gb.
[14:34] <genii-around> JeffJassky: It's the thing which starts up all the programs which need to run when you boot. So all the applications like maybe mysql, apache, etc have entries in /etc/init directory which upstart reads then starts them based on what it finds there
[14:34] <diki> Shell scripts have a line that starts with #! usr/bin/perl for instance
[14:34] <genii-around> !upstart
[14:34] <diki> Is it possible to make it so, they don't look in that path, but another?
[14:35] <JeffJassky> madpup: Unfortunately cpulimit runs in the foreground of terminal.. and as soon as you exit it stops limiting the process. For some reason it's more of a temporary solution.
[14:35] <vandemar> yown: `shred`
[14:35] <JeffJassky> genii-around: Thanks! I'll take a peek in there.
[14:35] <karpuragauram> on lucid roughly 1..5 gb was free but now.
[14:35] <karpuragauram> :(.
[14:35] <genii-around> karpuragauram: Can you use a pastebin to show the result of: mount        and: df -h          please
[14:36] <genii-around> JeffJassky: Might also want to take a look at the mnual page for nice or renice as well so you get an idea how it works
[14:36] <JeffJassky> genii-around: Yep was taking a look there. That might work out for me. Thanks a bunch.
[14:37] <genii-around> JeffJassky: No prob
[14:37] <karpuragauram> chatting from my phone. computer is frozen. how do I do pastebin now :(.
[14:38] <karpuragauram> I can tell u that / boot is full though
[14:39] <karpuragauram> and upgrade terminal icon is just sitting there blinking at me
[14:39] <yown> vandemar: Well this data is already deleted, but is there a way to wipe out the residue, It seems like shred is only for files that haven't been deleted yet
[14:41] <mehdi__> anybody work with pyload here?
[14:41] <johannes__> problem solved?
[14:41] <karpuragauram> genii-around I have 3 partitions.  first extended with 19 gb of which boot has 12 then us a 25 gB windows then is another for miscellaneous
[14:42] <s9iper1_> any body tell me how to create the iso file from simple windows 7 files in ubuntu
[14:42] <s9iper1_> ????
[14:44] <k1l> mehdi__: where is the issue?
[14:44] <holstein> s9iper1_: the same... what kind of iso are you trying to create?
[14:44] <karpuragauram> genii-around if I have no choices of salvaging the system I would like to install frshly but want to do it. got a ton is work to complete.
[14:44] <karpuragauram> :(. advice??
[14:44] <mehdi__> i install pyload manager its dl manager but donno how to start it
[14:44] <s9iper1_> holstein: i want to make the bootable usb by it but i have just window 7 files not the iso file
[14:45] <holstein> s9iper1_: what are 'windows 7 files' ?
[14:45] <jkjl>  Hello. When I turn on my laptop, the frequency of my CPU always goes to max. value, which increases the temperature to 70 C. How to set a default value always when I turn it on/awake from suspension? -- I use CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor 1.4.0
[14:45] <vandemar> yown: http://superuser.com/questions/19326/how-to-wipe-free-disk-space-in-linux
[14:45] <genii-around> karpuragauram: A reinstall will actually take less time
[14:46] <s9iper1_> holstein: i have downloaded it from torrent just by typing window 7
[14:46] <s9iper1_> mean window
[14:46] <holstein> s9iper1_: what do you mean by "it"
[14:46] <k1l> mehdi__: pyload.org got a got introduciotn
[14:46] <k1l> *good
[14:46] <karpuragauram> I don't have a gnome disk had will loose wall my programs   I have a xububtu disk onlu
[14:46] <mehdi__> k1l, im in there but no clue i run but its merely open a terminal and says no plugin to update
[14:47] <k1l> mehdi__: then its running
[14:47] <karpuragauram> only
[14:47] <mehdi__> k1l, how can i dl ?
[14:47] <k1l> !rootirc > Guest14812
[14:47] <s9iper1_> holstein: see i have downloaded windows from torrent but its not a iso so i wanted to make it iso to make it bootable
[14:47] <k1l> mehdi__: see the website. it explains what it is and how its used to run
[14:47] <holstein> s9iper1_: you have an illegal windows iso file? and you want to make a CD on ubuntu?... i wont help with that, but, i'll say, the process is the same as burning an iso on any operating system.. copy disc using iso as target and cd as source
[14:47] <k1l> mehdi__: its build for servers to run there in the background
[14:48] <mehdi__> http://pyload.org/pyload_stepbystep_linux im here but noithinn :(
[14:48] <s9iper1__>  holstein: see i have downloaded windows from torrent but its not a iso so i wanted to make it iso to make it bootable
[14:48] <john38> can somebody help me
[14:48] <holstein> s9iper1__: what is it?
[14:48] <holstein> !ask | john38
[14:48] <s9iper1__> john38
[14:48] <karpuragauram> how do I keep my apps and Ger lububtu by a upgrade install of xub precise on lucid gnome
[14:48] <s9iper1__> ???
[14:49] <john38> Is there a Warty Warthog version with all the latest updates for that! version like 10.04.1....10.04.2..etc
[14:49] <john38> if so where? can i find it
[14:49] <holstein> john38: you can search for it, but its EOL, so it will be as up to data as is was when support ended
[14:50] <s9iper1__> john38:i have downloaded  windows from torrent i want to make bootable usb  i run unet bootin but windows file not showing there bec they are not iso so i wanted to make it iso. how can i make it?
[14:50] <holstein> http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/4.10/ for example.. but its support is ended, and has been
[14:50] <holstein> john38: ^
[14:50] <john38> holstein, i tried searching couldnt find it..i mean i did find warty warthog base installation
[14:50] <holstein> john38: ^^ there is the install disc
[14:51] <meet> does pidgin integrate flawlessly like empathy?
[14:51] <john38> holstein, is there 4.10.1 or 4.10.2??
[14:51] <holstein> s9iper1__: if you have an illegally obtained windows image, it could be, at best, non-functional, if not malware
[14:52] <s9iper1__> holstein: no its windows
[14:52] <b2w> theadmin: thank u for ur help.i am the runner up on that project presentation held at my college...
[14:52] <holstein> john38: there doesnt have to be.. the support cycle would have ben different.. there is no "current ubuntu 4.10"
[14:52] <s9iper1__> holstein: i have downloaded  windows from torrent i want to make bootable usb  i run unet bootin but windows file not showing there bec they are not iso so i wanted to make it iso. how can i make it?
[14:52] <k1l> mehdi__: i dont really know what your acutal problem is.
[14:52] <john38> s9iper1__, you gotta make the computer boot from usb in Bios settings if! your  computer has that function
[14:52] <holstein> s9iper1__: corret.. and microsoft doesnt distrubute software via torrents.. so, i, nor you know what you actually downloaded
[14:52] <Pici> !piracy
[14:52] <Guest50867> quit
[14:52] <john38> holstein, damn
[14:53] <karpuragauram> genii-around any suggestions.  anyone. upgrading us hung .
[14:53] <john38> holstein, and i have no way of getting updates since its dead
[14:53] <holstein> john38: you are welcome to download, install, and maintain it manually
[14:53] <john38> holstein, you know how long that'd take lol
[14:53] <Snake2k> Hello everyone, can anyone tell me what languages are supported for the Ubuntu mobile OS?.. like can I make apps in Python?
[14:53] <holstein> john38: ? sure you do.. you get them, and build them yourself.. there is no reason to use it over ubuntu 10.04
[14:54] <s9iper1__> holstein: hang on i show u the torrent link
[14:54] <john38> holstein, the computer im repairing is old!
[14:55] <john38> holstein, 10.04 would be slow
[14:55] <DJones> s9iper1_: Please don't show links to torrents for Windows etc, they're not official windows releases
[14:55] <holstein> stochasm: i dont want it... and you shouldnt link it here
[14:55] <holstein> stochasm: sorry...
[14:55] <holstein> s9iper1_: i dont want it, and you shouldnt link it here
[14:55] <johannes__>  you can download windows 8 and 7 legal at thee microsoft website
[14:56] <karpuragauram> anyone.  how do I get apps back after new install.
[14:56] <holstein> john38: you can try 10.04 live
[14:56] <s9iper1_> ok
[14:56] <s9iper1_> ok
[14:56] <s9iper1_> thanks
[14:56] <FloodBot1> s9iper1_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:56] <holstein> karpuragauram: just reinstall them using the package manager of your choice
[14:56] <theadmin> karpuragauram: By reinstalling them, trying to use binaries from another system likely will lead to a bad result.
[14:56] <b2w> can i install ubuntu inside  windows 8?
[14:56] <theadmin> b2w: Yes, using VirtualBox: http://virtualbox.org
[14:57] <johannes__> or vmware
[14:57] <b2w> can i install it using ubi.exe likewise in windows xp?
[14:58] <k1l> b2w: most users here dont recommend wubi
[14:58] <theadmin> b2w: You can use that, yes (it's downloadable from http://wubi-installer.org ), although that tends to fail. You've been warned.
[14:58] <karpuragauram> I only have xububtu live disk. can I get lububtu later after fresh install.
[14:58] <k1l> b2w: go for a native install or use a virtualisation
[14:58] <k1l> karpuragauram: install lubuntu-desktop
[14:59] <b2w> yes i tried it but it returned somee error msg...
[14:59] <theadmin> karpuragauram: Sure, you can get any of the app sets that come with official Ubuntu variants via the software center, just search for "<name>-desktop". "lubuntu-desktop" in your case.
[14:59] <TheGrey> how do I setup m-audio audiophile 2496? I've made asound.rc be for my card. I've heard it uses envy24control. How/what do I do? :)
[14:59] <johannes__> why lubuntu
[14:59] <k1l> johannes__: why not? :)
[14:59] <john38> holstein, what are the system requirements for Xubuntu 10.04
[14:59] <holstein> TheGrey: i would read about JACK
[15:00] <holstein> john38: i would just fire it up live.. should be pretty lean.. what do you have??
[15:00] <johannes__> i think xubuntu is better
[15:00] <theadmin> john38: Woah, 10.04 is fairly old, why not go for 12.04 or 12.10?
[15:00] <karpuragauram> I don't have its disk or ISO and my comp is hung now on an upgrade from lucid to precise.  no disk space on /boot
[15:00] <k1l> john38: be aware that 10.04 looses support in april this year
[15:00] <b2w> i have some problem with my audio device.it plays sound well but sometimes it shows some error messages
[15:00] <theadmin> johannes__: There's no "better", people have preference.
[15:00] <k1l> johannes__: that is a choice every user has to make his own
[15:01] <john38> holstein, not mine im working on a Pentium II/CEleron 450mhz 256mb ram nividia 16mb
[15:01] <bhavesh> Is my Linux Kernel always going to remain 3.2.x on Ubuntu 12.04?
[15:01] <theadmin> bhavesh: Yes
[15:01] <b2w> how to reinstall the audio driver to solve the problems with audio device.
[15:02] <bhavesh> l
[15:02] <bhavesh> k*
[15:02] <theadmin> b2w: Why do you think that's going to solve anything? Reinstalls normally don't fix anything.
[15:02] <holstein> john38: i would try lubuntu or xubuntu 12.10 on that live
[15:02] <b2w> theadmin:then what should i do?
[15:02] <theadmin> b2w: What's your audio device?
[15:02] <holstein> john38: theres always puppy linux and the others that are more catering to older specs
[15:03] <Pici> holstein: a live CD is not going be fun with only 256 mb of RAM
[15:03] <theadmin> Well... you could go with Ubuntu Minimal, john38
[15:03] <theadmin> john38: Add on to that later, you can get a fairly decent system.
[15:03] <holstein> Pici: i like to try them though, since i can see how the hardware support is
[15:04] <b2w> i dont know for sure.but the manufacturer has given realtek driver for it.my pc is a laptop.
[15:04] <holstein> my point is, i would try the current version john38 .. dont worry about going back to EOL versions
[15:04] <johannes__> go offline
[15:04] <john38> holstein, i tried lubuntu too slow
[15:05] <holstein> john38: you installed lubuntu? if you did, then i would just go with something that caters to those specs
[15:05] <TheGrey> holstein: thanks, i've read but I still have little idea what I'm doing.
[15:05] <theadmin> john38: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD - this will give you a minimal system. Put Openbox or such on top.
[15:05] <holstein> TheGrey: im about to be in rehearsal for an hour, but try #ubuntu-studio and #opensourcemusicians .. folks in that second channel have that hardware
[15:06] <theadmin> There are better distros than Ubuntu for such old hardware, as holstein said, but this channel cannot support them.
[15:06] <b2w> theadmin: its realtek.
[15:06] <theadmin> b2w: Hm... I never had any problems with realtek. What's the issue?
[15:06] <john38> holstein, if i use puppy do they offer newest version even for low spec comp
[15:08] <b2w> theadmin: i used espeak speech software.it says the given text but some error message like below appears:          ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1018:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.rear ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.center_lfe ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.side ALSA lib audio/pcm_bluetooth.c:1614:(aud
[15:08] <holstein> john38: no.. but you can.. if you want to use legacy hardware, you might have to support it yourself.. but i always just try and load up a live CD to see what hardware support, or software versions are a "deal breaker"
[15:09] <theadmin> b2w: Does other sound-related software work?
[15:09] <theadmin> b2w: To make sure sound works at all, you can play a sure-to-play sound file: aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
[15:09] <john38> holstein, doesnt xubuntu use less resource on pc than lubuntu because of xfce
[15:10] <holstein> john38: no.. LXDE is arguably the lightest.. but again, just load them up live somewhere and see for yourself.. the 'L' in LXDE is 'lightweight'
[15:11] <b2w> theadmin:it works but it shows some error messages when i use espeak
[15:11] <theadmin> b2w: Then it's a problem with espeak, not your sound.
[15:11] <karpuragauram> are any of the lightweight ones Ltd
[15:12] <b2w> theadmin:ok then suggest a solution for that.
[15:12] <genii-around> karpuragauram: Apologies, work is requiring me to be away from the computer
[15:13] <theadmin> b2w: If anything, espeak doesn't work on my machine either. Why not use some similar software?
[15:15] <yossarianuk> hi - does anyone know if /tmp has been mounted as tmpfs  and the size of /tmp = 2.5GB - is that using 2.5GB of system ram/swap
[15:15] <b2w> theadmin:tell me similar to that tool that converts text to speech and that must support english and indian languages like espeak.
[15:15] <theadmin> b2w: Festival
[15:16] <b2w> can it support "tamil" language?
[15:16] <nickey> Hi guys! Can't change screen resolution with xrandr.
[15:16] <amaroks> Hello, I'm running this command ahmad@ubuntu:~/Downloads/dbi$ sudo perl Makefile.PL --mysql_config=/host/xampp/mysql/bin/mysql_config.pl
[15:17] <amaroks> getting Can't exec "/host/xampp/mysql/bin/mysql_config.pl": No such file or directory at Makefile.PL line 454.
[15:17] <amaroks> even though the file exists..
[15:17] <b2w> theadmin:can it support "tamil" language?
[15:17] <bazhang> !xampp | amaroks
[15:18] <nickey> Will anybody help me? How to change resolution with xrandr?
[15:18] <amaroks> bazhang, its not xampp
[15:18] <theadmin> b2w: Sorry, don't find support for that.
[15:18] <theadmin> nickey: xrandr -s 1024x769
[15:19] <theadmin> nickey: Or whatever.
[15:20] <nickey> theadmin: should it work, but it don't... =( I doing it, command don't show any output, but resolution is still the same...
[15:20] <b2w> theadmin:your tips helped me a lot which made me win the competition.
[15:20] <b2w> theadmin:thanks a lot....
[15:21] <theadmin> b2w: Sarcasm is not welcome. I was trying to help, you asked me for "indian languages". I figured you meant Hindi or such, and it had support for that. When you asked for "tamil", well, I didn't find it.
[15:22] <theadmin> nickey: Is the resolution you're trying listed when you run "xrandr" without any arguments?
[15:22] <nickey> theadmin: yes
[15:22] <theadmin> nickey: Hm... Odd enough, it should just work then
[15:23] <adac> I try start ubuntu from my live cd, but it seems there are graphic issues. I always tries to load the x server but it doesn't succeed. How can I start in "low graphics mode"?
[15:23] <theadmin> nickey: Do you have multiple monitors?
[15:24] <nickey> theadmin: no, just one by HDMI
[15:24] <b2w> theadmin:its ok admin. i am satisfied with espeak.
[15:24] <theadmin> b2w: Hope you can get it to work
[15:25] <theadmin> nickey: Hm, try: xrandr --output HDMI-0 --mode 1024x768
[15:26] <b2w> theadmin:yes.i want it to be make it as a handy device. tell me how can i install ubuntu in a mobile phone?
[15:27] <theadmin> b2w: It's not really possible officially just yet, but you can search for "Linux Installer" in the Play Store.
[15:27] <theadmin> b2w: If it's an Android device, that is. If not, then I have no idea
[15:29] <b2w> theadmin:ok.can i install just the linux kernel not the whole ubuntu.
[15:29] <theadmin> b2w: Uh, you already have that if it's an Android device. Android is Linux-based.
[15:29] <bazhang> !ot | b2w
[15:29] <mdh> b2w the kernel itself isn't all that useful without tools
[15:29] <nickey> teadmin: configure crtc0 failed
[15:32] <nickey> teadmin: configure crtc0 failed
[15:40] <theadmin> nickey: Not sure what that can even mean... Sorry, no real ideas. Why do you need to use xrandr as opposed to graphical display configuration tools?
[15:41] <nickey> teadmin: because i've only tty as my HDMI TV can't work in mode I have...
[15:41] <kartick> i need a help about data recovery.can anyone pvt me and help me?
[15:42] <theadmin> nickey: Ah, well, then that makes sense, you're not connected to an X display so xrandr doesn't know what to modify.
[15:42] <ikonia> kartick: what's the issue
[15:42] <theadmin> nickey: export DISPLAY=:0 and try again.
[15:42] <nickey> theadmin: I do exactly with DISPLAY
[15:42] <kartick> can i pvt u ikonia ?
[15:42] <theadmin> nickey: Ah, okay, bah, then I'm out of ideas again
[15:42] <ikonia> kartick: just ask in the channel
[15:42] <nickey> theadmin: and xrandr -q is working
[15:43] <theadmin> !pm | karpuragauram
[15:43] <theadmin> Ooops
[15:43] <theadmin> Sorry, karpuragauram
[15:44] <trublwithnorml> Gnome question:  I just put Chrubuntu on an Acer Chromebook, and switched to Gnome Classic, can't stand Unity.  I can't modify the top panel, alt-right click, which is alt, two finger tap on a chromebook, doesn't do anything.  Any ideas?
[15:44] <john38> holstein, do you know if puppy 1 is still supported
[15:44] <ikonia> puppy 1 ?
[15:44] <kartick> ok i had installed windows xp then i want to use ubuntu i installed but i installed it over my windows xp.now what can i do? how can i recover my files? is there any way to recover?
[15:44] <ikonia> trublwithnorml: chrububuntu ?
[15:44] <ikonia> kartick: that's not going to happen
[15:44] <holstein> john38: puppy is not "supported" that way.. it just is.. you dont install it typically and get nice updates like ubuntu does.. its minimal
[15:44] <trublwithnorml> ubuntu 12.04 LTS on a Chromebook.
[15:45] <kartick> realy there is no way to recover that?
[15:45] <ikonia> trublwithnorml: that's not an ubuntu distro though, that's googles version isn't it ?
[15:45] <ikonia> kartick: nope, you've put a new file system on the disk, and overwrite the files with more files
[15:45] <kartick> i had my family photos and many files now all files are gone can i use any recovery software?
[15:46] <theadmin> kartick: Try with Photorec (part of Testdisk suite). You can recover some files that way, but it won't be perfect (some parts of contents may be missing, the filenames will be messed up, etc)
[15:46] <kartick> ok can i use recovery software?
[15:46] <trublwithnorml> It's not a google product, they have their own OS.  It's out there somewhere,I just googled chromebook ubuntu Acer and it's the top response.
[15:46] <robin0800> trublwithn You may have to use the window key as well
[15:47] <kartick> ok thanks theadmin
[15:47] <trublwithnorml> what window key, it's a chromebook.  There's no window key
[15:47] <ikonia> trublwtit's not an ubuntu release.
[15:48] <theadmin> trublwithnorml: To get the panel menu you need to Alt+Super+right click, that's how it is in GNOME nowadays.
[15:48] <mdh> restore from backup.
[15:48] <trublwithnorml> Ah!  there's a key with a symbol that looks like a magnifying glass next to alt.  That plus alt plus two finger tap does it.  Thanks for the clues!
[15:49] <RZAFC> does anyone know how I can get social engineering toolkit on ubuntu 12.04lts for ppc?
[15:49] <ikonia> RZAFC: does it exist ?
[15:50] <theadmin> RZAFC: Umm. I'm not sure Ubuntu 12.04 has PPC support.
[15:50] <guywithAITgfx> Does the free ATI driver support multiple monitors (not just showing the same on both monitors, actually having more screen space)?
[15:50] <theadmin> guywithAITgfx: Not sure about the free one. But I know that fglrx does.
[15:50] <guywithAITgfx> theadmin: is that the proprietary ATI driver?
[15:50] <theadmin> guywithAITgfx: yep
[15:51] <guywithAITgfx> theadmin: Is it usable?
[15:52] <theadmin> guywithAITgfx: Rather, propretiary AMD driver for video cards. It's usable although has problems with older card models. You can get it from the "Additional Drivers" app (jockey-gtk) that comes with Ubuntu.
[15:52] <ronalds_m> hello
[15:53] <guywithAITgfx> theadmin: How old? Mine is from 2010 or 2011 (I got this box in early 2011)
[15:53] <ronalds_m> why qbittorent turns off by itself in some time?
[15:54] <phschwartz> I installed 12.04 server on about 200 servers and had it setup a second disk (4TB raid6) mounted to /mnt/disk1 on each node. I decided now that I want to have this split into a single partition and an extra partition for lvm. I scripted running parted to rebuild the partition, now what is the easiest way to modify my fstab on all 200 servers to remove UUID=***** from the line for that mount point and set it to /dev/sdb1
[15:54] <ikonia> phschwartz: ssh, keys and a sed script
[15:54] <theadmin> guywithAITgfx: Could you provide the exact model?
[15:54] <phschwartz> ikonia: I was hoping sed wasn't the suggestion. lol
[15:55] <Touhou11> phschwartz: A perl script would do the same thing much easier
[15:55] <ikonia> yeah, much easier than a 1 line sed command
[15:55] <Touhou11> ikonia: Agreed
[15:55] <theadmin> Touhou11: That was sarcasm, I think.
[15:55] <ikonia> don't know how you can get easier than a 1 line sed command
[15:55] <ikonia> can't wait to find out though
[15:55] <Touhou11> sed has the most abysmal syntax
[15:55] <RZAFC> theadmin: what do you mean by ppc support?
[15:55] <rurufufuss> how does one set a default "open with" in 12.10 for files?
[15:56] <theadmin> ikonia: Everything appears easier with Perl to Perl coders, even if it's actually harder.
[15:56] <ikonia> it's one line
[15:56] <theadmin> rurufufuss: I'm pretty sure it's still the same way as before, in Properties.
[15:56] <guywithAITgfx> theadmin: The card says HD-465X-ZD
[15:56] <ikonia> sed -d '/UUID=kfjsdlkfjsd' /etc/fstab
[15:56] <rurufufuss> theadmin: thanks, found it
[15:56] <ikonia> how does it get much easier than that
[15:57] <Touhou11> Much easier in Perl, worth learning imo
[15:57] <theadmin> guywithAITgfx: That appears to be supported.
[15:57] <guywithAITgfx> Touhou11: Much easier in Python
[15:58] <theadmin> *ahem* guys, enough with the flamewar, this is offtopic
[15:58] <guywithAITgfx> theadmin: Awesome, thanks for helping. However, there is one problem. Under the "additional drivers" menu, I do not see any drivers to install. The box is empty.
[15:59] <theadmin> guywithAITgfx: Oh, then I've been wrong. Ubuntu won't let you install unsupported drivers easily, and it's better not to try. I suppose it's not supported then (ATI's confusing in that way)
[15:59] <guywithAITgfx> theadmin: well, that's disappointing :(
[16:00] <mdh> that's dissapointing advice
[16:00] <guywithAITgfx> However, I will try to figure out if the free driver supports multiple monitors (properly)
[16:00] <theadmin> guywithAITgfx: You could still "sudo apt-get install fglrx" and reboot, but it might fail. If it does, then "sudo apt-get remove fglrx" from a TTY and reboot again, if it doesn't, well, yay.
[16:01] <guywithAITgfx> theadmin: Thank you :-)
[16:05] <theadmin> Speaking of drivers, I have a GeForce GT 540M and right after the install of Ubuntu 12.04, the propretiary driver warning came up, but I didn't install it back then. Now all of a sudden the driver dissapeared from Jockey, what gives? Could it be a result of kernel upgrade or somesuch?
[16:05] <theadmin> Noveau's fine for my purposes, but I'm confused.
[16:08] <Frekholm> Installed Ubuntu 12.10 beside Windows 7, but no dualboot comes up.
[16:09] <pythonirc1011> If I install raid 10 on 4 drives, and install ubuntu on the raid, if one drive fails, does the server still boot?
[16:10] <guywithATIgfx> theadmin: fglrx didn't work properly (which is odd and quite sad). However, I'll see if I can figure out how to configure the free driver. :-)
[16:10] <daddeeyee> gud eve!
[16:11] <daddeeyee> any1 here from phil?
[16:11] <theadmin> !ot | daddeeyee
[16:12] <theadmin> guywithATIgfx: Well, good luck, it should be possible for all I know
[16:12] <Frekholm> Why install beside Windows if no dual boot is installed_
[16:14] <Azert> the linux duds(aka NSA) have come up with a way to hide malware (security software) in the inods of ext4 fs
[16:14] <bazhang> Azert, wrong channel
[16:16] <hs366> can someone recommend a free and good  PDF editor plz ?
[16:17] <Touhou11> hs366: The official Adobe one
[16:17] <bazhang> hs366, apt-cache search pdf in terminal and take a look
[16:17] <hs366> ok thx i will check
[16:17] <theadmin> hs366: PDF is mostly a read-only format. You can export to PDF from pretty much anywhere in Ubuntu by printing to the virtual PDF printer, but I know of no way to edit an existing PDF.
[16:18] <Touhou11> hs366: By editor, do you mean filling in PDF forms? Or creating PDFs?
[16:18] <hs366> i just need to highlight and use underline or cross line
[16:19] <TheSov> does anyone know why logrotate is breaking my syslog? every time it runs my syslog stops logging
[16:19] <jhutchins_wk> hs366: PDF was originally designed specifically to be non-editable.  It was meant to be the equivalent of a printed page, which can not be easily modified.
[16:19] <hs366> not very professional one like Adobe pro windows version
[16:19] <jhutchins_wk> hs366: That said, some Linux PDF viewers can cope with forms, and it's possible to hack it.
[16:20] <jhutchins_wk> TheSov: What did you mess with?
[16:20] <hs366> i c
[16:20] <raj> is `virtualbox-guest-utils` still a valid package?
[16:20] <jhutchins_wk> hs366: The Adobe policy is that you  edit the original document, not the PDF.
[16:20] <aethelrick> you could try pdfedit... not sure how good it is
[16:20] <hs366> i found PDFSTUDIO from forum but i don't know if it's free or not
[16:21] <theadmin> raj: Yes
[16:21] <theadmin> !info virtualbox-guest-utils
[16:21] <hs366> pdfedit sounds good some ppl recommend it too. it will try ,
[16:21] <genii-around> hs366: Perhaps check out pdfedit , or else just import the pdf you want to edit into libreoffice
[16:22] <hs366> bazhang, (apt-cache search pdf ) is it search all pdf application available on ubuntu ?
[16:22] <karpuragauram> hello again. I have a live USB xubuntu CD. it is working OK but clicking on install is crashing
[16:23] <jhutchins_wk> hs366: Also libre/open office, as genii-around suggested, inkscape, and pdftk.
[16:24] <genii-around> hs366: You can use the extensions manager of libre/open office to install the pdf import filter. It then will bring it into the Draw application for editing
[16:24] <hs366> i c
[16:24] <raj> theadmin, is that all I have to do ?
[16:24] <raj> just sudo apt-get it?
[16:24] <hs366> thank you for support i will try and if i got problem i ask you again
[16:24] <hs366>  thxxx
[16:24] <raj> restart or something?
[16:25] <theadmin> raj: Well, depends on what you want to get. You'll need "virtualbox-guest-dkms" for them to actually work.
[16:25] <rtainc> I'll be remaking my flash drive, because I kept getting "Installer crashed"
[16:26] <pythonirc1011> do i have to manually create a /boot (128MB) or something similar so that RAID 10 boots automatically after 1 disk failure?
[16:26] <raj> theadmin, for "them" to work?
[16:26] <raj> what's them?
[16:26] <theadmin> raj: The guest additions.
[16:27] <raj> oh, cuz it's multiple adcditions?
[16:27] <raj> lol
[16:27] <theadmin> raj: ...Cause there's a kernel module that needs to be loaded for them to operate.
[16:29] <killer> hey i have a persistent usb and i installed on it ubiquity ...and now is it possible to insyall the persistent usb on d hd of my laptop
[16:31] <sticky1> hello, quick question here. I am using ubuntu Studio (quantal x64) and the launcher dock (which is Panel 1 on my workspace) doesn't autohide even though autohide is enabled
[16:32] <sticky1> it's blocking 1/20 of my screen, how do I fix this?
[16:38] <MonkeyDust> sticky1  there's also #ubuntustudio
[16:38] <sticky1> I know
[16:39] <sticky1> Wait, I'll restart my computer and see if it comes back
[16:40] <rtainc> Crap,I think my hard disk failed.
[16:41] <LaserShark> uh oh
[16:41] <LaserShark> did you backup
[16:41] <LaserShark> :o
[16:41] <rtainc> I FTPd my files over before the crash. The installation fails each time for Ubuntu :(
[16:42] <killer> hey i have a persistent usb and i installed on it ubiquity ...and now is it possible to insyall the persistent usb on d hd of my laptop
[16:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> help with getting midi to work? precise x64, hp dv5
[16:44] <BluesKaj> killer, have you tried the install ubuntu icon ?
[16:44] <rtainc> Time to waste the last bit of my money on yet another hdd3 :@
[16:44] <rtainc> HDD*
[16:45] <mals> am
[16:45] <Guest14337> hi, anyone willin' 2 elp?
[16:46] <Guest14337> sorry for the spellin' but my laptop kboard is dying
[16:46] <killer> BlueKaj:well i installed ubuntu on a usb and now i want to use this usb for further installation (ubiquity installed)....
[16:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> what
[16:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> what's the prob, Guest14337 ?
[16:47] <Guest14337> i'm usin'
[16:47] <Guest14337> xubuntu 10.10
[16:47] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | Guest14337
[16:48] <bazhang> Guest14337, thats not supported. upgrade to a supported version
[16:48] <Guest14337> i'm using xubunto 10.10, 'cause wifi does not work for latter versions does
[16:49] <BluesKaj> killer, then run ubiquity by clicking the install ubuntu and if you have an ext partition ready on your HDD you should all set , if not ubiquity will take you thru the partitioning phase to install ubuntu to it
[16:49] <Guest14337> i know is unsupportedjust wonder if there is any way to acces unnofficial or old repositories
[16:49] <bazhang> Guest14337, its not supported. it's end of like.
[16:49] <rtainc> Guest14337: All Ubuntu versions have WiFi support, you just have to install drivers.
[16:49] <bazhang> Guest14337, for the upgrade process, yes
[16:49] <tgm4883> Guest14337, yes there is
[16:50] <Guest14337> where update libraries and so oni'm really tired of doing everything "by hand"
[16:50] <tgm4883> Guest14337, you should really upgrade though
[16:50] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades   <----- Guest14337
[16:50] <rtainc> If you can't do stuff by hand, Linux is not for you...
[16:50] <tgm4883> rtainc, I completely disagree with that statement
[16:51] <rtainc> tgm4883: Tell me how many times a day you use Terminal commands as opposed to a GUI on Linux distress?
[16:51] <rtainc> distros*
[16:51] <Guest14337> ok rtainc that's the most stupid thing that probably a new lamme linux-guru wannabe would say
[16:51] <rtainc> Stupid auto-correct
[16:51] <tgm4883> rtainc, do I? or should a normal user?
[16:51] <mdh> rtainc: stop trolling
[16:51] <bazhang> tgm4883, rtainc lets move on
[16:51] <Guest14337> but thanks for your "support"
[16:52] <bazhang> mdh, thats not helping
[16:52] <killer> BlueKaj: well i did but installer fails after asking for desired password
[16:52] <rtainc> I wouldn't call it trolling, I'm just saying that Linux is a lot of commands.
[16:52] <tgm4883> rtainc, my wife never touches the command line. And I don't have to on her laptop either
[16:52] <bazhang> Guest14337, please read the end of life upgrades I've given you twice now
[16:52] <bazhang> tgm4883, lets move on...
[16:52] <tgm4883> Guest14337, why stay on 10.10?
[16:53] <rtainc> tgm4883, why bring family into this?
[16:53] <Guest14337> ok bazhang, thxanother question
[16:53] <mdh> was that a voluntary leave, or some scripted kick?
[16:54] <bazhang> mdh, lets get back to ubuntu support please
[16:54] <BluesKaj> KiLaHuRtZ, describe fails , does it refuse or crash or stall or ...?
[16:54] <BluesKaj> oops
[16:54] <BluesKaj> killer, describe fails , does it refuse or crash or stall or ...?
[16:55] <BluesKaj> KiLaHuRtZ, ignore that post ..typo
[16:55] <killer> BluesKaj :let me reproduce that problem
[16:56] <guywithATIgfx> I am trying to configure X to use my two monitors in a way that gives me more screen space, instead of the current configuration where it just mirrors the other display. I am using the free AMD/ATI driver on Xubuntu 12.10. I would appreciate it if someone could have a look at the xorg.conf I've made to see if I've done something dumb. Thank you. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5555637/
[16:56] <mdh> rtainc didn't leave of his own accord, for the record.
[16:57] <mmmbud> hey
[16:57] <mmmbud> can anyone help with a wifi connection problem
[16:57] <mdh> guywithATIgfx: did you try the proprietary driver/
[16:57] <tgm4883> !ask | mmmbud
[16:57] <guywithATIgfx> mdh, yes, it did not function properly
[16:57] <bazhang> mmmbud, which chipset, whats the exact issue
[16:58] <Guest14337> well, bazhang maybe i did not explain myself clearly enough, i'll do it now
[16:58] <Guest14337> i dont want to upgrade
[16:58] <mmmbud> it drops connection when i download at full speed for a few mins the wifi dongle is an alfa AWUS036H
[16:58] <bazhang> Guest14337, thats clear. and 10.10 is not supported.
[16:58] <killer> BluesKaj: i think it failed as it says:"setting camerabin to STOPPED failed
[16:58] <guywithATIgfx> mdh, It claimed that my video card (HD 4650) is not supported, despite their own website claiming it is
[16:59] <tgm4883> Guest14337, then you have your answer
[16:59] <iter> Guest14337: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/10.10/
[16:59] <Guest14337> my laptop (fujitsu amilo) wifi card has a known issue and does not work with 3.x kernels
[16:59] <bazhang> mmmbud, with the dongle in, please pastebin the output of lsusb
[16:59] <Guest14337> well
[16:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> perhaps Guest14337 hates unity (rightly so)
[17:00] <rbennacer> hey guys
[17:00] <bazhang> !pastebin | mmmbud
[17:00] <tgm4883> ntzrmtthihu777, not sure that has anything to do with this
[17:00] <rbennacer> how can i see the last security patch installed on my ubuntu server ?
[17:00] <MonkeyDust> rbennacer  #ubuntu-server
[17:00] <Guest14337> well, then thanks for nothing
[17:00] <Guest14337> quit
[17:01] <rbennacer> MonkeyDust, thanks
[17:01] <iter> gotta love entitled users
[17:01] <mmmbud> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5555654/
[17:01] <tgm4883> rbennacer, tail /var/log/apt/history.log
[17:01] <rbennacer> thank youuu
[17:01] <mdh> why was rtainc banned for asking for installer help?
[17:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> rather rude, that guest.
[17:02] <tgm4883> mdh, he wasn't
[17:02] <BluesKaj> killer, do you have a cdrom drive ? if so burn the ubuntu image to a cd and try to install from that .. Seems to me usb media has more difficulty installing the OS than cds do.
[17:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> yeah, good thing ubuntu
[17:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> yeah, good thing ubuntu's iso is so small, just need a cd not a DVD
[17:03] <tgm4883> I've had more issues installing from CD than from USB
[17:03] <phschwartz> I have a script that is running against a cluster of servers (doing an install with apt-get). One of the packages is failing in debconf as it is prompting for a response due to a changed file but since I am doing it non-interactive I can't respond. Is there a way to have it automatically respond with the default.
[17:03] <bazhang> mmmbud, that appears to be supported by the linux backports modules
[17:03] <tgm4883> phschwartz, have you tried with -y?
[17:03] <bean> phschwartz, apt-get -y
[17:04] <phschwartz> I am doing the install with apt-get install -y libvirt-bin (file conflict in there. default is to keep my current which I want to do)
[17:04] <OverlordQ|W> So evidently for some reason all my gtk apps have started imploding, is there a good way to diagnose this? (http://paste.ubuntu.com/5555659/) I've tried reinstalling that package, but didn't help any. memtest hadn't returned anything, do I need to run it longer?
[17:04] <mmmbud> yeah bazhang it works untill i start torrenting then it disconnects and vanishes from the list untill i unplug and plug it back in
[17:05] <mmmbud> but it works under windows
[17:06] <guywithATIgfx> I am trying to configure X to use my two monitors in a way that gives me more screen space, instead of the current configuration where it just mirrors the other display. I am using the free AMD/ATI driver on Xubuntu 12.10. I would appreciate it if someone could have a look at the xorg.conf I've made to see if I've done something dumb. Thank you. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5555637/
[17:07] <OverlordQ|W> Top of the stack is usually __strcmp_ssse3 () at ../sysdeps/i386/i686/multiarch/strcmp-ssse3.S:77
[17:07] <Jeaton> i dont know if this would be an issue with gnome-classic, xchat, or ubuntu, but when I minimize xchat to the tray
[17:08] <mdh> guywithATIgfx: isn't there some easy gui tool to configure displays? i've never had to do it, but I would assume there would be one that worked like the display configuration panel in windows
[17:08] <Jeaton> it disappears completely off my desktop, even though the process is still running
[17:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> heh, there is one for AMD Catalyst Control Center
[17:09] <BluesKaj> BBl
[17:09] <guywithATIgfx> mdh, I cannot find one for the free ATI driver
[17:09] <Smilex> I'm having problems with my ubuntu installation. I just updated it and when I restarted into it, it says that I have to log in in low graphics mode, but it just freezes when I press Ok. Also I'm unable to switch to the graphics configuration option
[17:09] <guywithATIgfx> mdh, but I know there is one for free proprietary nvidia driver, which is quite good. unfortunately that doesn't help me much
[17:09] <mdh> guywithATIgfx: does the second display not show up in the ubuntu display preferences config?
[17:10] <guywithATIgfx> mdh, I am using Xubuntu, so I don't know if Unity has a different dialog, but the one in Xfce only allows me to change resolution and refresh rate, not what I want to change
[17:12] <mdh> guywithATIgfx: have you tried to install and use arandr?
[17:12] <guywithATIgfx> mdh, No, I will try that
[17:13] <tanveer> hi all
[17:13] <mdh> guywithATIgfx: i honestly don't know if that would work, I just saw someone recommended it in a forum for setting up dual monior display in xfce
[17:13] <n-iCe> have anyone used hostpad? I keep getting Failed to set interface wlan0 to master mode.
[17:13] <guywithATIgfx> mdh, It worked!
[17:14] <guywithATIgfx> mdh, Thank you very much for helping me!
[17:14] <mdh> guywithATIgfx: no problem
[17:15] <tanveer> hi mdh
[17:15] <mdh> hi
[17:15] <tanveer> can you help how to un install a program in ubuntu 12.04
[17:15] <MonkeyDust> tanveer  let's hear it
[17:15] <bazhang> tanveer, with the package manager
[17:16] <tanveer> i want to use command line
[17:16] <olegb> tanveer, sudo apt-get install foo
[17:16] <bazhang> !apt-get | tanveer
[17:16] <MonkeyDust> tanveer  sudo apt-get purge blah
[17:16] <pi__> help
[17:18] <tanveer> thanks a lot friends
[17:21] <MatthewL> Hi pi__
[17:24] <Superuser> Hey, I have an issue with my graphics drivers
[17:24] <Superuser> So I had Intel HD graphics 2000 or whatever, whatever came with the CPU (building a new pc)
[17:24] <Superuser> and I just bought an NVIDIA GTX 550Ti
[17:24] <Superuser> and I keep getting all sorts of weird errors
[17:24] <Guest68614> hi~
[17:24] <Superuser> I had to unplug it
[17:25] <Superuser> I tried to install the proprietary drivers and that failed somehow (had to do it via the term, the gui program didn't come up for some reason)
[17:25] <Superuser> any ideas
[17:25] <holstein> Superuser: you tried the proprietary drivers for the nvidia? what is your goal?
[17:25] <Superuser> make it work
[17:25] <holstein> !ati | Superuser
[17:25] <Hylve> Superuser: Whats the issue?
[17:25] <Guest68614> ...
[17:26] <Guest68614> hello~
[17:26] <mdh> hi Guest68614
[17:26] <Superuser> first it detects the screen as 'portable computer'
[17:26] <holstein> Superuser: i would just reinstall the proper prorietary driver and come back for troubleshooting
[17:26] <Superuser> the launcher does not come up
[17:26] <Superuser> the mouse keeps disappearing
[17:26] <Superuser> all I see is a section of my wallpaper
[17:26] <Superuser> etc etc
[17:26] <Superuser> and yes I have restarted X
[17:26] <Superuser> to no avail, it logs me out, when I log back in it's the same
[17:26] <holstein> Superuser: are you up to date with upgrades? also, try not to hit the enter keey so much.. type more in one line
[17:27] <Superuser> yeah, sorry, I know IRC etiquette. Yes, 12.10
[17:27] <holstein> Superuser: i might roll back to 12.04 and test.. assuming driver support is a deal breaker
[17:27] <Superuser> I've downloaded gigabytes and gigabytes of apps, don't want to do a clean install
[17:27] <Superuser> oh wait that kind of upgrade
[17:27] <Superuser> no 12.10 clean
[17:28] <Superuser> I installed it 2 days ago and been using it, GPU came today
[17:28] <Superuser> (the OS that is)
[17:28] <holstein> Superuser: i was talking about upgrades to your current install.. sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade.. in case a kernel update "fixes" the driver issue you might be having
[17:29] <Superuser> I can't even bring up the terminal when I'm using my borked drivers (defaults to VESA instead of nouveau after the failed install) holstein, but I'll do it now
[17:29] <holstein> !tty | Superuser
[17:29] <ikonia> Superuser: what video card do you have ?
[17:29] <Superuser> EVGA NVIDIA GeForce GTX 550Ti
[17:30] <ikonia> Superuser: I'm assuming you've tried the propritary nvidia drivers from the ubuntu package manager ?
[17:30] <GeekSquid> Greetings from UBUCON at SCALE!!!
[17:30] <Superuser> from the jockey-text terminal application
[17:30] <tanveer> i cant uninstall a package because it says it is not installed while it is. i think installation name is different than the screen name
[17:30] <ikonia> Superuser: have you checked on the nvidia.com site which drivers version are classed to support your card
[17:31] <tanveer> how can i get the original name of the package?
[17:31] <tgm4883> tanveer, what are you trying to remove?
[17:31] <ikonia> tanveer: how did you install it ?
[17:31] <Superuser> well, that's not the recommended method according to the wiki but I guess I'll try ikonia, I just hope they won't bugger up the Intel HD graphics drivers too
[17:31] <ikonia> Superuser: what's not the recommended method ?
[17:32] <ikonia> Superuser: ahhh is this a GPU ?
[17:32] <ikonia> optimus ?
[17:32] <Superuser> GTX
[17:32] <ikonia> Superuser: is that a dual optimus card
[17:32] <Superuser> these are meant to be well supported under proprietary
[17:32] <tanveer> it is a package name MouseTrap, it was a program for web cam. it uses webcam to move mouse curser
[17:32] <ikonia> Superuser: to be clear, I'm not telling you to download or install ANYTHING from nvidia.com
[17:32] <Superuser> no idea
[17:32] <tgm4883> tanveer, assuming you are trying to remove /usr/bin/mysql   do 'dpkg -S /usr/bin/mysql'
[17:32] <ikonia> Superuser: I'm telling you to research on nvida.com which driver versions support your card
[17:32] <Superuser> I thought optimus are embedded cards for laptops, ikonia?
[17:33] <ikonia> Superuser: they are, but why do you have an intel card and nvida card on the same board ?
[17:33] <Superuser> http://www.nvidia.co.uk/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-uk <-- only Windows is listed :(
[17:33] <holstein> ikonia: Superuser has a machine built with integrated intel.. and the nvidia is added on
[17:33] <tanveer> i dont know where this package was installed
[17:33] <Superuser> Intel is integrated into the motherboard/processor, duh
[17:33] <Superuser> I *ADDED* the Geforce just now
[17:33] <ikonia> Superuser: please don't get smart with "duh"
[17:34] <holstein> Superuser: ikonia was just asking for clarification
[17:34] <holstein> Superuser: as i was asking, are you up to date with upgrades?
[17:34] <ikonia> Superuser: you've just made the command "I hope the nvidia drivers don't mess up my intel card" - which the only way that would happen is if it's a dual card
[17:34] <Superuser> dist-upgrade is running right now
[17:34] <Karthi> how to find the graphics card
[17:34] <ikonia> Superuser: good luck working out the the issue, I'm out thanks to your smart comments "duh..."
[17:34] <Superuser> yeah ikonia that was just doomsaying haha
[17:34] <Karthi> model
[17:35] <Superuser> gtx 550 ti
[17:35] <Superuser> http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/linux-display-amd64-310.32-driver-uk.html anyway
[17:35] <Superuser> that's the page
[17:35] <holstein> Superuser: try with upgraded kernel... try the drivers that the above links suggests for your device
[17:35] <ikonia> Karthi: if you do an "lspci" you'll see your chipset
[17:35] <holstein> !ati | Superuser
[17:36] <holstein> Superuser: if it is still "messed up", we can troubleshoot from there
[17:36] <Superuser> so should I wire it up again and reboot holstein
[17:36] <agu10^> HEY guys!
[17:36] <agu10^> how are you today?
[17:36] <Superuser> I know how to *restart* X but I don't know how to close it, as it's so borked atm I can't even get into a terminal... so how do I close X when I reboot holstein?
[17:36] <josty> can anyone help me with converting from mbr to gpt ?
[17:37] <holstein> !tty | Superuser is how you get to a terminal
[17:37] <Superuser> ok thanks, be back in 20 min, have to do something
[17:37] <agu10^> Superuser, I think you can use ctrl+alt+f1
[17:37] <agu10^> I'm not an expert though. I have got into problems for recommending without knowing much.
[17:39] <bingowrt> excuse me i have a question how to disable the nouveau kernel in12.10
[17:39] <agu10^> bingowrt, no idea.
[17:39] <bazhang> agu10^, then dont say anything
[17:40] <bingowrt> i want to install nvidia driver but i cant
[17:40] <holstein> bazhang: you can blacklist the module.. http://askubuntu.com/questions/112302/how-do-i-disable-the-nouveau-kernel-driver may help
[17:40] <mdh> bingowrt: which nvidia driver
[17:40] <holstein> bazhang: sorry... bingowrt ^^
[17:41] <ikonia> agu10^: can you please check your private messages
[17:42] <k1l> bingowrt: install the "nvidia-current" package from the official repos and this will do the work for you
[17:42] <solar_sea> Hi. Running 12.10 live cd, how can I debootstrap just a base system, like the one from the mini.iso netinstall image ?
[17:42] <k1l> bingowrt: "sudo apt-get install nvidia-current"
[17:43] <bingowrt> its 310.32
[17:43] <k1l> bingowrt: where is the issue?
[17:44] <bingowrt> i tried blacklist but it doesnt work
[17:44] <k1l> bingowrt: again: you dont need to blacklist anything yourself
[17:45] <uminded> is their a way to share an internet connection with a dev board that has usb otg, but only using a standard usb cable?
[17:45] <k1l> bingowrt: see what i wrote. install the nvidia driver from ubuntu and he will do it for you
[17:46] <bingowrt> you mean from program store?
[17:46] <theadmin> bingowrt: Use the "Additional drivers" app.
[17:47] <jeaton_> anyone know a fix with xchat and ubuntu 12.10, where you can minimize xchat into the tray
[17:47] <jeaton_> everytime I try, it disappears completely, and the process continues to run
[17:47] <bazhang> jeaton_, works fine here
[17:47] <xkernel> I installed Team Viewer and teamviewerd is auto starting, how can I disable it?
[17:47] <bingowrt> okay ill try thx
[17:48] <bazhang> jeaton_, are you in gnome-shell or unity
[17:48] <jeaton_> gnome-classic
[17:48] <bazhang> jeaton_, gnome-panel?
[17:49] <theadmin> xkernel: echo "manual" | sudo tee -a /etc/init/teamviewerd.conf
[17:49] <AcidRain2012> my xsessions-error file is 46gigs in size, i deleted it, but apparently it didnt delete. how can i look for it?
[17:49] <AcidRain2012> im at 100% disc capacity and cant open any programs
[17:49] <judahitewarrior7> I need help with creating an image ad in Ubuntu, what programs can I do this with?
[17:49] <k1l> bingowrt: open a terminal and type" sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nvidia-current"
[17:50] <bazhang> judahitewarrior7, an image of what
[17:50] <theadmin> AcidRain2012: 1: clear /var/log with "sudo rm -r /var/log/*", 2: make sure your logs rotate with "sudo apt-get install logrotate"
[17:50] <judahitewarrior7> bazhang: An image ad for Craigslist
[17:50] <kenperkins> is there a way to have dpkg install dependencies without having to run apt-get install -f after?
[17:50] <bazhang> judahitewarrior7, libreoffice perhaps
[17:50] <MonkeyDust> judahitewarrior7  there's inkscape and gimp
[17:50] <mdh> judahitewarrior7: or gimp
[17:51] <theadmin> kenperkins: dpkg itself is unaware of APT capabilities, so no. But, there are programs which can do it for you (try wajig, for instance, an all-in-one command-line APT tool)
[17:51] <kenperkins> hm
[17:51] <jeaton_> bazhang, not sure, what about it?
[17:51] <kenperkins> I'm hoping to do it without having more software to configure :D
[17:51] <judahitewarrior7> bazhang, MonkeyDust, mdh: Thanks!
[17:51] <RZAFC> anyone here know if you can download metasploit on a chromebook?
[17:51] <AcidRain2012> theadmin, but my xsessions file was located in the home dir
[17:51] <bazhang> jeaton_, gnome-panel gives the classic look. what about in unity and gnome-shell
[17:51] <kenperkins> theadmin: thanks though
[17:52] <uminded> is their a way to share an internet connection with a dev board that has usb otg, but only using a standard usb cable?
[17:52] <AcidRain2012> theadmin, and though i deleted it through nautilus, it appears to have never deleted, instead its just not show9ing up
[17:52] <jeaton_> oh, yes, it works in both unity and gnome-panel
[17:52] <jeaton_> if by gnome-panel you mean the latest gnome?
[17:52] <bazhang> jeaton_, sounds like a bug then
[17:52] <theadmin> kenperkins: You don't need to configure wajig, just use it: wajig install package-by-name|~/Downloads/package-by-path.deb|http://example.org/package-by-url.deb
[17:52] <xkernel> theadmin, i did that and then killed the background process but it still starting up automatically
[17:53] <AcidRain2012> theadmin, bleachbit reports recovering 49gig disk space. but my drive is still 100% full
[17:53] <theadmin> xkernel: Well, you need to stop it properly :/ "sudo stop teamviewerd"
[17:54] <xkernel> theadmin, thanks :),  what's the difference between "service <srvc> stop" and "stop <srvc>"?
[17:54] <theadmin> xkernel: The second one is shorter :P
[17:54] <theadmin> xkernel: Other than that, nothing
[17:54] <AcidRain2012> theadmin, im kinda scared to restart my computer, with such little disck space. it may not boot
[17:55] <MonkeyDust> judahitewarrior7  there's also xaralx, for DTP
[17:55] <xkernel> theadmin, but when I tried to "service teamviewerd stop"  or press tab to complete team... , there wasn't such a service
[17:55] <theadmin> AcidRain2012: Yeah that makes sense, um, you could boot from a LiveCD to do the cleaning
[17:56] <AcidRain2012> theadmin, seriously? its gonna be that much trouble?
[17:56] <agu10^> Will ubuntu for ARM (phone or tablets) run all my apps, or do they have to run on x86 emulator?
[17:56] <theadmin> agu10^: You can't emulate x86 on ARM.
[17:56] <agu10^> why not?
[17:56] <agu10^> it sounds certainly possible.
[17:56] <theadmin> agu10^: Well, x86 is superior... It's like trying to emulate amd64 on x86
[17:56] <agu10^> maybe too slow
[17:56] <danielbw_> AcidRain2012: why don't you use lsof and see whihc process might have that file open?
[17:57] <agu10^> theadmin, it's possible. maybe not practical for big apps
[17:57] <danielbw_> AcidRain2012: kill the process you might see your disk space correctly
[17:57] <theadmin> agu10^: Hm, okay, my bad.
[17:57] <k1l> agu10^: that topic will suit better into #ubuntu-phone
[17:57] <AcidRain2012> daniel-gnu, how do i find what process?
[17:57] <genii-around> xkernel: service is an old-style sytem V init script which is being run underneath of upstart because it still has an entry in /etc/init.d    stop/start are native upstart
[17:57] <agu10^> k1l, great, a new channel
[17:58] <agu10^> theadmin, it's ok, at least it seems x86 emulation is not normal under ubuntu, right?
[17:58] <kenperkins> theadmin: thanks, I'll try it now on a newly provisioned vagrant instance :D
[17:58] <theadmin> genii-around: Really? "service" works with upstart-only services for me, i.e. those that don't have anything under /etc/init.d/
[17:58] <k1l> agu10^: the emulation in this case is not really a daily thing.
[17:59] <agu10^> ok. are most apps compiled for arm though?
[17:59] <danielbw_> acidrain: lsof|grep -i xsession
[17:59] <ikonia> agu10^: how is this anything to do with ubuntu ?
[17:59] <danielbw_> the second parameter is the pid of the process
[17:59] <theadmin> agu10^: Well, they *will* be. That is, Ubuntu Phone is still at the start stage, so...
[17:59] <agu10^> ikonia, i thought this was distro-dependent in the packages they include?
[17:59] <danielbw_> AcidRain2012: maybe restart the lightdm service?
[18:00] <agu10^> theadmin, sounds promising. thanks!
[18:00] <ikonia> agu10^: ubuntu for arm will use arm built packages, ubuntu x86 will use x86 packages
[18:00] <AcidRain2012> daniel-gnu, im using gnom2
[18:00] <AcidRain2012> gnome2*
[18:00] <k1l> agu10^: http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone/app-ecosystem  and i mentioned the other channel already
[18:01] <agu10^> I am discussing there. thanx
[18:01] <clue_h> Hi, I'd like to see the log out messages for ubuntu, but i cant remember where to look, is it  a lightdm log
[18:01] <theadmin> clue_h: something under /var/log/lightdm/ I suppose
[18:01] <clue_h> theadmin, cheers i'll keep looking too
[18:02] <k1l> clue_h: dmesg /syslog?
[18:02] <k1l> clue_h: in /var/log/
[18:02] <mdh> clue_h: /var/log/auth.log ?
[18:02] <apb1963_> anyone familiar with cron??
[18:02] <Superuser> o_O holstein you are my hero!
[18:02] <Superuser> I will love you forever
[18:02] <kenperkins> theadmin: that didn't seem to work (wajig install http://.......deb)
[18:02] <kenperkins> it still didn't pre-install the deps
[18:02] <Superuser> it worked :o
[18:02] <clue_h> k1l, mdh i think it's var/log/ boot but im not sure, urgh logs.
[18:03] <theadmin> kenperkins: It will first install the package and then run sudo apt-get -f install for you :P
[18:03] <kenperkins> it didn't seem to
[18:03] <theadmin> kenperkins: Seems sane for me
[18:03] <Superuser> just wondering, how do I actually use the driver? The kernel module is enabled, but it's not in use... jockey says the following kmod:nvidia_experimental_310 - nvidia_experimental_310 (Proprietary, Enabled, Not in use)
[18:03] <theadmin> Superuser: It might want a reboot
[18:03] <Superuser> and --help doesn't help either
[18:03] <kenperkins> is there an argument you need to add to -f after?
[18:04] <Superuser> okay, thanks, I'll try that
[18:04] <theadmin> kenperkins: Nope, shouldn't be, if you're talking about wajig
[18:04] <kenperkins> it tried to install it, but I got the same nodejs depends on rlwrap; however:
[18:04] <kenperkins>   Package rlwrap is not installed.
[18:04] <AcidRain> what is the search function to find the biggesst file on my computer?
[18:05] <kenperkins> same error as when I did it with apt-get by hand
[18:05] <kenperkins> err, dpkg
[18:05] <apb1963_> In /var/spool/cron/crontabs/root  it says:  # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE - edit the master and reinstall.  Where is this master file it refers to?
[18:06] <karpuragauram> prepared a fresh live lububtu . on booting fromit It says unknown keyword in configuration file  boot
[18:06] <theadmin> apb1963_: I think it'd be /etc/crontab
[18:06] <iter> AcidRain: you could do 'ls -RalrS | tail'
[18:06] <tworkin> what user does upstart run as / how can i give my job an ssh key
[18:06] <Lynxx> karpuragauram, maybe you should have cooked it first.. just saying
[18:07] <theadmin> tworkin: Upstart, like any init system, runs as root.
[18:07] <gimpy34> How do I disable pings with UFW on 12.04?  I followed https://answers.launchpad.net/ufw/+question/26585 and `ufw disable`, `ufw enable` but pings are still allowed.
[18:07] <iter> AcidRain: or something like find / -type f -size +3000000
[18:07] <karpuragauram> lol. but help plz
[18:07] <clue_h> gimpy34, tried sysctl.conf?
[18:07] <tworkin> theadmin: upstart itself yes, but the jobs as well?
[18:08] <tworkin> how do i not run my jobs as root?
[18:08] <Wferr> Hi i need some help with my ubuntu desktop
[18:08] <tworkin> surely you can jail apache or some such
[18:08] <apb1963_> theadmin: Nope.  The /etc/crontab file appears to be completely different
[18:08] <theadmin> apb1963_: Oh, sorry
[18:08] <Superuser> err, rebooting didn't do it, how can I put the proprietary NVIDIA driver into *use*, anyone know? It is enabled as a kernel module, not used atm though :(
[18:09] <apb1963_> theadmin: can you check and see if you have the same comment in your file?
[18:09] <gimpy34> clue_h: Actually, it looks like ufw won't start unless I'm running gufw.  http://dpaste.com/969446/
[18:09] <apb1963_> theadmin: I'm wondering if perhaps it was put there by a third party app I'm running
[18:09] <Wferr> Im trying to run a ubuntu 12.10 headless and im getting stuck at the error when you boot up saying that the monitor wasnt recognized
[18:10] <clue_h> gimpy34 thats weird ufw is installed by default, and starts by 'ufw enable'
[18:10] <gimpy34> clue_h: Note I did install the server version of ubuntu, not desktop.
[18:10] <Wferr> anyone?
[18:10] <dyslexai> join raspberrypi
[18:10] <theadmin> apb1963_: Um. cat: /var/spool/cron/crontabs/root: No such file or directory
[18:11] <apb1963_> hmmm
[18:11] <jeaton> ok, I was wrong, I don't believe it's working in unity either
[18:11] <compdoc> Wferr, never saw that. I run many headless servers, although using 12.04. Is there a bios setting?
[18:11] <Wferr> ive checked the bios and there isnt a setting for it to boot with out a monitor
[18:11] <Akiva-Thinkpad> when I search store in ubuntu dash, it gives me a result with a promiscuous photo; an erotic romance novel, and I quote:
[18:11] <Wferr> and its with 12.10 desktop
[18:11] <Akiva-Thinkpad> 5.0 out of 5 stars Candy Store (An Erotic Contemporary Romance January 2, 2011
[18:11] <Akiva-Thinkpad> By prunes01
[18:11] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Format:Kindle Edition|Amazon Verified Purchase
[18:11] <Akiva-Thinkpad> What a romance ! You could sense the sexual being of both main characters. I'm sure this story includes fantasies that everyone has had at one time or another. The outcome was exactly what I had hoped for. The story was so easy to read that I read the whole thing in one sitting.
[18:11] <FloodBot1> Akiva-Thinkpad: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:12] <apb1963_> theadmin: ok thanks for trying
[18:12] <Akiva-Thinkpad> So I don't mind store results really
[18:12] <Akiva-Thinkpad> but I do mind when they peddle dope or pornography to me,
[18:12] <Lynxx> karpuragauram, what was the error again?
[18:12] <compdoc> Wferr, sometimes theres an ignore all errors except mouse/keyboard. Sometimes theres actually a 'headless' option. What sort of pc is it?
[18:12] <Superuser> Aaany idea on how to use that Nvidia driver? Is enabled, can't use it :( also, the GUI for proprietary drivers and all that still hasn't come up.
[18:12] <AcidRain> :/ yall. something is filling up my drive. and i cant find it
[18:12] <karpuragauram> got it fixed :)
[18:12] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Will this be fixed in future incarnations?
[18:12] <Lynxx> cool
[18:13] <Wferr> compdoc, i have it to ignore all errors but i still get a error when i boot saying that the monitor isnt recognized
[18:13] <niven> Hi, is there any ubuntu channel for social speaking, about wifes etc.
[18:13] <AcidRain> as fast as i can delete files, something is taking its place with space
[18:13] <jpds> !ot | niven
[18:13] <Smilex> what do I need to install to run mesa instead of the proprietary driver?
[18:14] <Wferr> compdoc, its a dell vostro 200
[18:14] <ewerton> my empathy no connect with facebook
[18:16] <Wferr> compdoc, i
[18:16] <Oblivion1500> hello, just wondering if i am to port forward and direct it to a computer but there is no program using that port will i still be able to run canyouseeme.com and see that the port is open?
[18:16] <DrZaius> is it possible to clone a lp bzr repository locally without login? i only want to checkout the code
[18:17] <clue_h> gimpy34, i think you can block ping in ufw by editing the default, so 'sudo -e /etc/ufw/before.rules' changing echo request from accept to drop
[18:17] <DrZaius> Oblivion1500: how do you think that port is open if there is no program listening to it?
[18:17] <Wferr> compdoc, ???
[18:17] <trism> DrZaius: you don't need to login to checkout (at least, not with the public ones on launchpad), just: bzr branch lp:projectname;
[18:17] <compdoc> Wferr, I see no options online. Very strange
[18:18] <DrZaius> trism: you are right, it did get the branch, it just warmed about logging in
[18:18] <DrZaius> thank you
[18:18] <Wferr> compdoc, ive tried the page http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=988789 but that way doesnt work for me
[18:18] <Oblivion1500> DrZaius well i just want to make sure, i have a program listing i just want to see if i have actually opened the port.. i have a modem that is giving me trouble durring port forwarding
[18:18] <wednesday> anyone know why lightdm  will not allow users to login?
[18:19] <trism> DrZaius: yeah it does complain but it does it anyway
[18:19] <elisa87> Do you know why so ? mkdir: cannot create directory `/home/jalal/NVIDIA_GPU_Computing_SDK': Permission denied
[18:19] <k1l> wednesday: see .xsession-errors from that user
[18:19] <DrZaius> Oblivion1500: sorry, maybe i missed the begining of your question. Where are you opening that port? in ubuntu firewall? your router?
[18:19] <sergiufreenode> are there big performance difference if ubuntu installed with windows isntaller
[18:19] <danielbw_> AcidRaid, iotop
[18:19] <user717> Hi, I have an issue with the microphone. I'm using Ubuntu 12.10 and an Acer Aspire One AOD250. Audio works but microphone doesn't. I tried searching the web but with no luck so far.
[18:19] <wednesday> sorry ubunut 12.04 lightdm issues: at login after providing password screen flashes and returns to login page.
[18:19] <danielbw_> find out which process it is
[18:20] <k1l> wednesday: maybe its a ICAuthority issue
[18:20] <k1l> aka, fiddled with root priviliges
[18:20] <holstein> user717: i woud use pavucontrol to help with the routing
[18:20] <wednesday> k11: have you seen that issue. If I use gdm I can login but lightdm freaked out, this happend after an update.
[18:21] <user717> holstein: I installed it and adjusted the micro but still nothing
[18:21] <Wferr> Im trying to run a ubuntu 12.10 headless and im getting stuck at the error when you boot up saying that the monitor wasnt recognized and not letting my go without a monitor
[18:21] <holstein> user717: the microphone doesnt have to be supported.. i find, kernel and alsa version really make/break harware support.. sometimes i just load up some live CDs and see what, if any, just work
[18:22] <compdoc> Wferr, does the error you see come from the PC's bios, or from ubuntu?
[18:22] <Wferr> comdoc, ubuntu
[18:22] <wednesday> k11: I will check privs. I also adjusted mine so I can be in a admin group to mount certain drives.
[18:22] <k1l> wednesday: see the log i mentioned and see if that .ICEAuthority file belongs to your user and not root
[18:22] <judget> Just did daily updates to 12.10 x64 and notice that my secodn screen will no longer allow me to set its previoius resolution to 1280 x 1024\
[18:22] <holstein> Wferr: sometimes there is a setting in the bios.. ubuntu shouldnt care
[18:22] <user717> holstein: So there is no luck?
[18:22] <Wferr> holstein, ive check through all the bios
[18:22] <wednesday> k11: thank you.
[18:22] <holstein> Wferr: i would go ahead and setup ssh or whatever, and see if you can connect... the error might not matter
[18:23] <Wferr> holstien, i can connect but i have to have a monitor on everytime i restart
[18:23] <holstein> user717: have you tried ubuntu 10.04? 12.04? and 12.10? maybe the upcoming beta? those are 4 different kernels and alsa versions
[18:23] <Wferr> holstien, the problem is that that error appears before i "login" so i cant VNC into it
[18:24] <judget> what would be the correct forum to report my new screen resolution issue?
[18:24] <flipsy> nice
[18:24] <holstein> Wferr: i dont, though i have seen that error before, and gotten around it in the bios.. can you take a pciture of the error? you can type 'ho' and hit tab to auto complete my nick
[18:24] <clue_h> Wferr, is the monitor connected through the graphics adapter's port or the standard vga port?
[18:24] <user717> user717: this is so fragmented, I've never thought linux would be like that
[18:25] <Wferr> clue_h: its connected via the built in VGA
[18:25] <holstein> user717: ? "linux" is not like anything.. this is a harware support issue, and it happens on *all* operating systems
[18:26] <holstein> user717: im just offering arguably easy-ish ways to test different kernels and alsa versions.. you can open a terminal and run "aplay -l" and search for the output of your card in the forums, or bug report.. or try alsamixer and tweak *everything*, since the labels can be incorrect
[18:27] <Wferr> holstein: what would be the easyest way to get a photo on here?
[18:28] <holstein> Wferr: im assuming you cant take a screenshot..i would use my phone and post.. you can just better describe the exacty error if you preffer
[18:28] <solar_sea> Hi. How do I install a base ubuntu system, like the one installed by mini.iso, while running the live cd version ?
[18:29] <holstein> solar_sea: you get the mini iso..
[18:29] <solar_sea> holstein: that's ridiculous, i need the live for properly settings my disks. Isn't there a debootstrap alternative, or a way to call mini.iso's installer ?
[18:29] <holstein> solar_sea: otherwise, you install the full system from the live CD, and remove what you dont want/need https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[18:30] <holstein> solar_sea: not that im aware of.. but you can make whatever installation media you need
[18:30] <theadmin> solar_sea: Install the full system, then, using tasksel, remove every task but ubuntu-minimal
[18:30] <Wferr> holstein:  ill go for describing, it says "The system is running in low-graphics mode, Your Screen, Graphics Card, and input device settings could not be detedcted correctly. You will need to configure these yourself.
[18:31] <holstein> Wferr: thats a different issue.. i would get the desktop booting normally, and go from there
[18:32] <Wferr> holstein: i can get it booting but the problem i need it to be able to boot headless
[18:32] <holstein> Wferr: sure.. and thats it the issue when booting headless then?
[18:33] <Wferr> holstein:  yes, it boots just fine but i need to have it boot headless
[18:34] <holstein> Wferr: and, what is the exact error when trying to boot headless?
[18:34] <Wferr> holstein:   it says this"The system is running in low-graphics mode, Your Screen, Graphics Card, and input device settings could not be detedcted correctly. You will need to configure these yourself.
[18:34] <compdoc> Wferr, when you install ubuntu, do you enable vino, or install any packages dealing with the screen?
[18:35] <Wferr> compdoc:  i didnt install any packages dealing with the screen and i have never heard of vino
[18:35] <holstein> Wferr: where? when you vnc in? that is not "you cant boot without a monitor connected".. i would put a simple xorg.conf in place with the vesa driver in place and a normal simple resolution
[18:35] <compdoc> Wferrm, that error goes away for me if I install the propritory vid driver
[18:36] <Wferr> holstein:  thats the message instantly after bios finished and can you help me setup a xorg.conf?
[18:37] <holstein> Wferr: something simple like http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7711766 might do it
[18:38] <AcidRain> ok does anyone else have any ideas? i restarted my comp. now it wont boot
[18:38] <AcidRain> :/
[18:38] <Wferr> holstein:  i dont seem to have a xorg.conf file and i cannot make one either
[18:39] <AcidRain> and i put it on everything, that this 1 issue that i run into about every 6months makes windows not look so bad
[18:39] <holstein> Wferr: you can... gksudo gedit and make one and put it in /etc/X11
[18:39] <jey> where do i find release notes for the packages I get through the Software Updater? in particular I want to read about why I got two kernel upgrades (linux-generic) in the span of a week on quantal
[18:39] <holstein> Wferr: you should understand how to remove that file with a live CD if anything goes wrong
[18:41] <holstein> Wferr: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5555912/
[18:41] <Wferr> holstein: im workig on getting the copy in right now
[18:43] <Wferr> holstein:  just made the file restarting now
[18:44] <AcidRain> can i load a live cd onto a dvd?
[18:44] <AcidRain> and boot from it?
[18:44] <clue_h> yes
[18:44] <lantizia> OK so I'm very new to Android and I now have a new Nexus 4... I miss how my N900 could install/run regular Linux desktop apps from APT repositories... I *would* install the Ubuntu Phone preview on my Nexus 4 but then I'd loose android - so what other ways can I run both ubuntu and android apps together?
[18:44] <DJones> AcidRain: Yes, the live iso will only fit on a dvd now
[18:44] <wednesday> JOIN #stonesoup
[18:44] <AcidRain> DJones, what software in windows can i use to burn the live cd?
[18:44] <Wferr> holstein:  i still get the log graphics error..
[18:44] <holstein> lantizia: #ubuntu-phone , and the OS is not final.. you can run whatever apps are designed to run both places
[18:45] <lantizia> holstein, didn't I just say that's not an option?
[18:45] <ania_> sudo su
[18:45] <DJones> AcidRain: I've not used any for a long time, I would try infrarecorder
[18:45] <lantizia> holstein, unless your saying Ubuntu Phone can run Android apps?
[18:45] <holstein> lantizia: you cant /join the proper channel?
[18:45] <lantizia> holstein, this *isn't* about ubuntu phone!
[18:46] <holstein> lantizia: im saying, applications can be created to run anywhere
[18:46] <lantizia> right - i'm saying you are entirely missing the point
[18:46] <trism> jey: once you've installed the updates, the changelogs are all in /usr/share/doc, so for your current kernel: less /usr/share/doc/linux-image-$(uname -r)/changelog.Debian.gz
[18:46] <holstein> lantizia: you can virtualize one or the other on one or the other, or look for native apps
[18:46] <jey> trism: thank you
[18:46] <AcidRain> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop is this a live cd?
[18:47] <holstein> AcidRain: yes
[18:47] <jey> on that note, is there a easy/simple way to get all the -doc packages for things i've already installed? I'm sure I could do it with a dash of sed and shell, but ...
[18:47] <holstein> Wferr: make sure you are using the vesa driver now, and consider setting resolution in the xorg.conf
[18:47] <ModFather> hi there, is any method to add an external network printer to my Ubuntu box? i trying but without success
[18:48] <holstein> ModFather: depends on the unit. i usually just add and specify the IP address of the printer.. i would test ping the printer
[18:48] <ModFather> holstein it works through my Windows Machine,
[18:49] <AcidRain> ok. now lets say that my cd drive is not set to boot, how can i fix this when i cant get into bios because my disk that is full wont detect?
[18:49] <AcidRain> so the system hangs on it
[18:49] <ModFather> i download the drivers of the printer, i selected Network printer, i browse the drivers, and now i can print from my home Windows machine, but through Ubuntu i cant make it work
[18:49] <ModFather> i am using my Ubuntu with terminal
[18:49] <holstein> ModFather: doesnt matter. the printer manufacturer can create/provide a driver for you for linux that will give you a similar experience.. i would try pinging the printer, then just try adding it
[18:50] <holstein> ModFather: you downloaded windows drivers... those are irrelevant.. just try the add a printer wizard
[18:50] <Wferr> holstein: http://tinypic.com/r/ouzazs/6
[18:50] <ModFather> holstein: it works fine on my windows machine
[18:50] <ModFather> i did it through ip and port 9100
[18:51] <holstein> ModFather: correct, and that is irrelevant.. ubuntu doesnt use the windows drivers.. try and add the printer with the wizard, pointing to the IP
[18:51] <ModFather> holstein: does the terminal has wizzard?
[18:51] <ModFather> that ubuntu is server edition without Graphicals or Screen on it
[18:52] <Underyx> hey, guys
[18:53] <holstein> ModFather: cups has a web GUI.. i would run a normal live CD.. install the printer, and note what gets installed, and try and do that from the server version
[18:53] <Underyx> a friend of mine's having this problem where she, when running specific apt-get commands, presses y to confirm installation of a package, and apt-get just instantly quits, saying 'Abort.'
[18:53] <ModFather> holstein: no dont spend time to run live cd etc
[18:53] <Underyx> it seems to me to be related to modifying linux-headers
[18:54] <ModFather> holstein: its okey, i have install cups and added the printer as Socket://ip:9100 and also added a 2n printer socket://ip and i choosed the corrected drivers
[18:54] <holstein> ModFather: i would have to have that printer in front of me to see how to add it.. that would be the easiest solution.. add from live CD, and see
[18:54] <ModFather> when i am trying to print i am getting: "/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip-hplip failed"
[18:55] <holstein> ModFather: good luck with that.. maybe ask in the #ubuntu-server channel, or the server mailing list
[19:04] <agu10^> May I suggest that the UI default colors be changed from orange/brown to magenta/lila?
[19:05] <AcidRain_> Issue fixed! after clearing the xsession-error file, i had to restart... for some reason my comp thought the file was still there without a restart
[19:05] <AcidRain_> either that or... it was taking more than an hour to delete a 49gig file
[19:05] <DJones> !brainstorm | agu10^
[19:05] <AcidRain_> now to stop this issue from happening anymore
[19:06] <holstein> agu10^: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/ might be the place for that.. you can just change them on your system
[19:06] <holstein> like DJones suggested ^^ i just missed it :)
[19:07] <agu10^> holstein, sorry, it is impossible for me to change colors. They only change in some parts, but the rest seems to be hard-coded orange/brown.
[19:07] <holstein> agu10^: its all open, so nothing is impossible.. just maybe too much hassle
[19:08] <agu10^> holstein, well i meant without editing code and config files one by one. Changing colors for the "system config" doesn't change them fully in all software.
[19:08] <agu10^> afaik
[19:09] <holstein> agu10^: sure.. then the brainstorm is the place!
[19:09] <agu10^> great. thank you! (:
[19:13] <ErtanERBEK> do know ppa for gnome-shell 3.6.3 ?
[19:14] <daniel__> hi
[19:14] <holstein> ErtanERBEK: https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/testing maybe.. i would just search around for one
[19:14] <Chjjjhgghjijhhhh> hi
[19:14] <daniel__> how
[19:14] <daniel__> are you
[19:15] <daniel__> asdfgjhhbjm,bhjmghylj
[19:15] <ErtanERBEK> thak you holstein I try this morning that pppa but gnome every time hung at login screen
[19:15] <holstein> ErtanERBEK: it could.. its a "testing" ppa.. thats why i would just use whatever is in the repos "stable" unless you need functionality
[19:16] <ErtanERBEK> holstein, I need new versin gnome-shell because screen recorder have some bug
[19:16] <ErtanERBEK> and gnome team fixed that bug with gnome-shell 3.6.3
[19:16] <holstein> ErtanERBEK: you can always build it yourself.. other than that, you'll just need to search and try PPA versions
[19:17] <ErtanERBEK> holstein, I am searching :D
[19:19] <FCHMMR> hi all
[19:19] <FCHMMR> i tried the forums but responses are too slow
[19:19] <Chjjjhgghjijhhhh> hi
[19:19] <FCHMMR> just wandered what some people might think of this,
[19:20] <FCHMMR> I'm sure you are all aware of some concerns people have about privacy with regards to Ubuntu 12.10 and higher
[19:20] <FCHMMR> I'm neutral in the matter but,
[19:20] <FCHMMR> I thought about it,
[19:20] <genii-around> !adlens
[19:20] <FCHMMR> what people complain about is storing logs of string searches from the Dash
[19:20] <mmmbud> is xchat ad supported?
[19:20] <FCHMMR> in teh privacy policy they talk about how they share their data too
[19:20] <FCHMMR> but I notice people are divided on the issue,
[19:20] <clue_h> FCHMMR, all that can be removed and  or disabled
[19:21] <FCHMMR> some say it should be opt-in,
[19:21] <holstein> FCHMMR: you'll just have to read, and decide for yoursefl.. we dont maintain those servers
[19:21] <FCHMMR> some say it can be disabled
[19:21] <FCHMMR> some say theres no problem
[19:21] <DJones> FCHMMR: This isn't really a discussion channel, its for support issues, you'd be better saying this in either #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:21] <af4qor> im writing a bash script atm, does anyone know the command to open a new terminal from within the terminal (if it exists) ?
[19:21] <FCHMMR> i thought of a simple solution that would please everyone:
[19:21] <holstein> FCHMMR: its all open, so everything can be disabled
[19:21] <clue_h> af4qor, file open
[19:21] <FCHMMR> dont keep logs (on cannonical servers) and dont share information at all
[19:21] <FCHMMR> that way you leave it enabled by default
[19:21] <FCHMMR> but there would be no privacy issue
[19:21] <clue_h> af4qor, ignore that i miss read
[19:21] <FCHMMR> what do you think?
[19:21] <FCHMMR> people wouild still search in dash,
[19:22] <FCHMMR> but their data would not be logged (and not monitored)
[19:22] <FCHMMR> noone really mentions that...
[19:22] <Pici> FCHMMR: Again, this isn't an issue for this support channel.
[19:22] <af4qor> clue_h, lol that confused me for a second
[19:22] <FCHMMR> oh
[19:22] <DJones> FCHMMR: As I said, #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic for discussions like that
[19:22] <genii-around> FCHMMR: As DJones points out, the subject is better discussed in either #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:22] <FCHMMR> where do i go to discuss such matters?
[19:22] <Akiva-Thinkpad> I am developing for ubuntu, using launchpad and bazaar and any other parts of the ubuntu ecosystem, and I am wondering if there is an ubuntu developers blog where I could blog my own progress?
[19:22] <FCHMMR> ah
[19:22] <FCHMMR> #ubuntu-discuss
[19:22] <clue_h> af4qor,   apologies
[19:22] <FloodBot1> FCHMMR: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:22] <FCHMMR> i will voice my concerns there instead
[19:22] <af4qor> dw
[19:22] <FCHMMR> thank you for your help,
[19:22] <FCHMMR> and i apalogise for the interruption
[19:22] <DJones> FCHMMR: You could also suggest it on Ubuntu Brainstorm
[19:23] <DJones> !brainstorm | FCHMMR
[19:23] <FCHMMR> that would be prudent
[19:23] <FCHMMR> thank you
[19:23] <FCHMMR> i will do that also
[19:23] <DrZaius> I come from git and i use giggle to see repositories... is there anything like that in bzr?
[19:23] <FCHMMR> also:
 FCHMMR: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:23] <FCHMMR> i dont flood
[19:23] <FCHMMR> i just type at 130WPM
[19:23] <FCHMMR> :)
[19:23] <FloodBot1> FCHMMR: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:25] <Dimensional> Wow. that's a lot of people.
[19:25] <DrZaius> is there an ubuntu dev channel?
[19:25] <af4qor> I know in windows just typing new will open a new instance of the cli, is there an eqivalent in bash?
[19:26] <FCHMMR> hi,
[19:26] <DrZaius> af4qor: what cli are you using
[19:26] <FCHMMR> i made an account on brainstorm now
[19:26] <af4qor> bash
[19:26] <FCHMMR> i'll post my idea there instead
[19:26] <FCHMMR> irc is not reliable for this thing
[19:26] <FCHMMR> brainstorm is better
[19:26] <clue_h> DrZaius, #ubuntu-devel
[19:26] <DrZaius> af4qor: bash is the shell, but the shell is open within a terminal... what terminal are you using?
[19:26] <kio415> I got a ERROR. Pls help   Error mounting /dev/sda4 at /media/kio/40DCA33DDCA32BDA: Command-line `mount -t "ntfs" -o
[19:26] <af4qor> running a terminal emulator with defualt shell
[19:26] <Pici> DrZaius: #bzr might be better for your question
[19:27] <af4qor> (tilda)
[19:27] <DrZaius> af4qor: in ubuntu you cant ctrl-shift-t to open new terminal
[19:27]  * Dimensional is looking to talk with some of the developers over a question/idea
[19:27] <af4qor> ik but im looking for a command
[19:28] <DrZaius> af4qor: i use tilda as well :D ctrl +shift +t open new tab, alt + 2 to switch to second tab
[19:28] <N105> hello i have to desktop one with ubuntu and one with windows7 i connect a wlan card to the ubuntu pc and connect to my wireless network and internet is too slow, in windows with the same wlan card and internet is normal, what can be the Problem?
[19:28] <DrZaius> ty Pici
[19:28] <af4qor> Tilda is very nice ^_^
[19:29] <Dimensional> Hardware problem form the sound of it. Could also be configuration. Surprisingly, I get the opposite of that problem, but both computers are on the same machine.
[19:29] <af4qor> the context is im writing a bash script to load instead of the default shell with an option to run the terminal.
[19:29] <DrZaius> af4qor: it is... but development is discontinued :/ actually a guy took over a month ago... and its fixing bugs again after 5+ years :D
[19:30] <af4qor> DrZaius, orly i didnt know that ty
[19:30] <backbox> I have extra laptop with built-in wifi a usb wifi adapter and a router all extra... how can I use these to make my laptop into a dedicated wifi repeater?
[19:31] <DrZaius> af4qor: what do you want to accomplish when you open tilda
[19:31] <N105> hello i have to desktop one with ubuntu and one with windows7 i connect a wlan card to the ubuntu pc and connect to my wireless network and internet is too slow, in windows with the same wlan card and internet is normal, what can be the Problem?
[19:31] <Dimensional> N105: Hardware problem form the sound of it. Could also be configuration. Surprisingly, I get the opposite of that problem, but both systems are on the same machine.
[19:32] <backbox> oooo looks like it's wifi network question day lol
[19:32] <af4qor> Just some options to save time, like pyradio, transmission, etc
[19:32] <DrZaius> N105: ping www.google.com and ctrl-c after a while... look for packages loss after that
[19:32] <af4qor> also it looks cool ^-^
[19:33] <cirwin> is there something like top that can show me memory bandwidth utilization?
[19:34] <DrZaius> af4qor: you want to start programs after you log into ubuntu? you dont need/cant/shouldnt do that from tilda
[19:34] <Dimensional> I have my own question, but it's directed more towards the developers of Ubuntu. Possibly an idea for them to use.
[19:34] <N105> DrZaius: all packages are lose now, but some time i get some package back
[19:35] <N105> i don't understand this Problem :D
[19:35] <Dimensional> Hmm.
[19:35] <backbox> looking to make my laptop into a dedicated wifi repeater, have extra router and usb adapter... anyone game to help?
[19:35] <N105> i have installed wicd i still have the same Problem
[19:35] <Dimensional> What is the distance from your router?
[19:35] <Dimensional> Distance is a variable.
[19:35] <N105> Dimensional: you don't understand the Problem
[19:35] <DrZaius> af4qor: to startup services google /etc/init.d/ and startup (actual name of the system), to start gui programs, depends on your window manager... what do you use?
[19:36] <af4qor> DrZaius, how come?
[19:36] <mmmbud> hey there is a weird twitter add that appears over windows
[19:36] <mmmbud>  is that built into ubuntu?
[19:36] <Dimensional> Explain it then, n105?
[19:36] <N105> i use the same wireless card the two computer are in the same place
[19:36] <Dimensional> Oh. So it's the same machine?
[19:36] <Dimensional> Like a dual-boot setup?
[19:36] <af4qor> Also no, not when i start/log on. Just when i open a profile in tilda
[19:37] <N105> nope two different machine
[19:37] <Goranek> i guys
[19:37] <Goranek> hi
[19:37] <backbox> hi
[19:37] <Dimensional> You take the card out from each machine and put it in the other when you are going to use it?
[19:37] <DrZaius> af4qor: well, tilda spanw pseudo-terminals if you look at process tree (with pstree or htop and then press t) you dont want you gui windows spanw from within tilda
[19:38] <N105> Dimensional: yes it's a usb wireless card
[19:38] <Dimensional> Oh.
[19:38] <FCHMMR> hi,
[19:38] <Dimensional> That explains most of it.
[19:38] <N105> what can be the Problem?
[19:38] <af4qor> hmm fair enough
[19:38] <FCHMMR> i was re-directed to #ubuntu-discuss for an issue,
[19:38] <Dimensional> At least, clears up what I'm understanding
[19:38] <DrZaius> af4qor: do you autostart tilda? do you launch it after you log-in?
[19:38] <FCHMMR> but then recommended for brainstorm,
[19:38] <FCHMMR> i made an account:
[19:38] <FCHMMR> http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/30577/
[19:38] <FCHMMR> that is my idea
[19:38] <backbox> N105, that's the confusion not a card an adapter for usb lol
[19:38] <FCHMMR> tell me what you think :)
[19:38] <FloodBot1> FCHMMR: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:38] <af4qor> Its not set to autostart i launch it when needed
[19:39] <Dimensional> USB wireless adapter, not card.
[19:39] <N105> backbox okay sorry i'm not american ;)
[19:39] <Dimensional> ok
[19:39] <DrZaius> af4qor: tilda is supposed to be running all the time, then you hide/show it with the hotkey
[19:39] <af4qor> also what is the command to open a new terminal, thats been intriguing me external to this script
[19:39] <N105> know you understand the Problem, do you have any idea what's the cause of this Problem?
[19:40] <DrZaius> you are only supposed to start tilda once... autostart when you login if you dont want to complicate
[19:40] <Dimensional> How are both the same distance from the wireless router when you are moving the adapter around?
[19:40] <backbox> N105, have you tried alternate (non-free) drivers?
[19:40] <af4qor> Ik but i dont like having things run in background, we digress my question was about bash commands
[19:40] <prashant_123456> not able to copy data to my removable drive
[19:40] <DrZaius> when do you want your programs to start? when you show tilda? you will want them when you login into ubuntu, dont you?
[19:40] <backbox> looking to make my laptop into a dedicated wifi repeater, have extra router and usb adapter... anyone game to help?
[19:41] <DrZaius> af4qor: or do you wnat them to start/stop at will within a session?
[19:41] <N105> backbox wich driver do yo umean?
[19:41] <josh____> test
[19:41] <af4qor> latter
[19:41] <af4qor> again were digressing xD
[19:41] <josh____> test
[19:41] <Dimensional> WHat is the manufacturer of your usb adapter?
[19:41] <Dimensional> Test failed Josh. :P
[19:41] <DrZaius> af4qor: can i see your script to figure it out what are you after? paste.ubuntu.com
[19:41] <N105> my usb adapter is alpha awus036h
[19:42] <af4qor> kk 1 sec
[19:42] <backbox> in you'r menue there is an app for finding alternate drivers... also you can use the windows driver that came with it on cd ... if one did
[19:42] <josh____> test
[19:43] <Dimensional> I think Josh____ was being a bot or something.
[19:43] <KeyboardNotFound> In ubuntu packages codeblocks last version is 10.05, but newest codeblocks version is 12.11, can i update codeblocks to newest version but using ubuntu packages ?
[19:43] <N105> backbox:Dimensional are you sure that's only a driver Problem?
[19:43] <N105> because i'm sure i use the right driver
[19:43] <backbox> on my menu it's in settings as 'Additional Drivers'
[19:44] <marsfligth> How to keep the monitor always on? I tried to adjust the 'power' and 'brightness' from 'system settings' but after 5 mins it blanks the screen
[19:44] <backbox> so... sometimes alternatave drivers work better
[19:44] <theadmin> Well, so I decided to give Unity a whirl and it's awesome, just one problem. The clock displays time in two locations, "Moscow" (the actual timezone) and "Volgograd". I have no idea how to get rid of the second one, it ain't in the other locations list.
[19:44] <theadmin> marsfligth: Could be the screensaver
[19:44] <Dimensional> N105, the free drivers you'd most likely be using have limitations. They aren't perfect. If there are drivers that came straight from the manufacturer that Ubuntu can use, then you'll find that it might work better.
[19:44] <Dimensional> sometimes.
[19:44] <backbox> that's all I'm saying... cuz you said it works just not as fast as it does in windows right?
[19:45] <intrader> My laptop is overheating (pSensor(temp2)>97C and shuts down while displaying video . The laptop is a lenovo t61 - same video on XP with same browser (firefox) does not overheat.
[19:45] <af4qor> i started it literally 1 minute ago during our conversation so its not complete http://paste.ubuntu.com/5556086/
[19:45] <N105> backbox right
[19:45] <Dimensional> Another problem could involve things around the machines. Something could interfere with the signal. That and the way the adapter is positioned, relative to the router.
[19:45] <backbox> than what Dimensional said... 'N105, the free drivers you'd most likely be using have limitations. They aren't perfect. If there are drivers that came straight from the manufacturer that Ubuntu can use, then you'll find that it might work better"
[19:46] <marsfligth> theadmin: I removed the sceensaver from the 'startup applications' should be this the reason?
[19:46] <KeyboardNotFound> In ubuntu packages codeblocks last version is 10.05, but newest codeblocks version is 12.11, can i update codeblocks to newest version but using ubuntu packages ?
[19:46] <N105> okay thanks guys i will try the additional drivers and i will be back after that thanks a lot guys
[19:46] <N105> for your help
[19:46] <backbox> it's worth a shot
[19:46] <theadmin> marsfligth: May be.
[19:46] <backbox> no worries
[19:46] <holstein> KeyboardNotFound: the short anwer is no.. you can always maintain it yourself, or try a PPA
[19:46] <holstein> !ppa | KeyboardNotFound
[19:46] <backbox>  looking to make my laptop into a dedicated wifi repeater, have extra router and usb adapter... anyone game to help?
[19:47] <KeyboardNotFound> !addppa
[19:47] <brvitorio> olá pessoal, como vão?
[19:47] <DrZaius> af4qor: okay... now i understand what are you tring to achieve :)
[19:47] <KeyboardNotFound> !addppa | KeyboardNotFound
[19:47] <Dimensional> backbox, um.
[19:47] <brvitorio> tem brasileiro?
[19:47] <af4qor> DrZaius, cool c:
[19:47] <Dimensional> Last time I checked, not really possible without having 2 wireless adapters.
[19:47] <marsfligth> theadmin: I try to restore it and I reboot, if it woks I'll give you notice. Thanks
[19:47] <backbox> Dimensional, is that a maybe
[19:47] <Dimensional> I checked 3 months ago.
[19:48] <Dimensional> 1 adapter to be the access point, the other to connect to the real access point
[19:48] <backbox> I have and adapter and a router
[19:48] <Dimensional> When I tried configuring my wifi adapter, I couldn't make it be both an access point and connect to an access point.
[19:48] <backbox> I think it could work...
[19:48] <Dimensional> You have a router that you laptop connects to?
[19:48] <Dimensional> the router connects to the internet?
[19:49] <DrZaius> af4qor: well... the best solution is to add functions to shell itself... really. with nohup to detach it from the shell
[19:49] <backbox> I can extend the range by forwarding my connection but it's on a different ssid
[19:49] <DrZaius> af4qor: i understand your cool idea, but it doesnt make much sense
[19:50] <Villevicious> I was installin lubuntu 12.10 on my new netbook and ran into a problem. instead of launching the gui it sends me to a commandline enviroment. any ideas on how to find out whats wrong?
[19:50] <Dimensional> backbox, if you're connecting to your router wirelessly, then no, you can't use your laptop as a repeater without having a second adapter.
[19:50] <josh____> Test
[19:50] <backbox> i want to run a lan site on my server as a home-brewed media server
[19:50] <af4qor> DrZaius, so there is no bash command well thats a bitch. Oh well, how would i go about adding a bash function ?
[19:50] <Dimensional> josh____: Your tests are passing. Stop spamming
[19:50] <prover> I need help creating a script, to run a game i must change to game directory and put a command before the game executable. so i cd /usr/local/games/ut    then type padsp ut   how can i create a script for this
[19:50] <DrZaius> af4qor: there is a new command... i guess the command you are looking for is gnome-terminal
[19:50] <af4qor> DrZaius, cool ideas dont need to make sense
[19:50] <mikey_> hi
[19:50] <josh____> test
[19:50] <Dimensional> Backbox, if you are connected to the router, to the internet, thorugh a wired connection, then yes, you can make your laptop a repeater by bridging a wireless signal through it.
[19:51] <backbox> I'm connecting to the main router via wifi the sharing that via ethernet to an other router
[19:51] <DJones> !test > josh____
[19:51] <backbox> and that works but it has to be a different ssid
[19:51] <DrZaius> af4qor: but as i said is overcomplicated
[19:51] <cakeboss> !test > DJones
[19:51] <DJones> cakeboss: Yes?
[19:51] <cakeboss> DJones: Just making sure it works.
[19:51] <josh____> Im using irssi and I cannt figure out how to change my bloody nickname!!!
[19:51] <af4qor> ill just use gnome-terminal, thanks for your help
[19:51] <af4qor> kthxbai
[19:52] <Dimensional> type /nick <name>
[19:52] <DJones> josh____: /nick newnick
[19:52] <jrib> josh____: /nick notbloody
[19:52] <cakeboss> josh____: You type /nick MYNICK
[19:52] <DrZaius> just type in bash: function radio() {nohup pyradio;}
[19:52] <backbox> but I want to bridge it to the same network
[19:52] <JaySwizzle> Thank tou!
[19:52] <cakeboss> You know what is interesting about irssi?
[19:52] <JaySwizzle> That was driving me mad.
[19:52] <JaySwizzle> sure
[19:52] <mrHat> ok, so i enabled quotas on the /home directory so i can manager user space... here is fstab : http://imagebin.org/247760  but when i do repquota /home i get http://imagebin.org/247761 .. wtf is doing bind, www-data and some other doing in the report ?? i hate setting up quotas damn it...
[19:52] <cakeboss> Nothing, JaySwizzle: get a better client unless you plan on scripting in irssi
[19:53] <backbox> I can use the same ssid, but then i just have two networks with the same name
[19:53] <cakeboss> JaySwizzle: leave the manly tools to the manly men
[19:53]  * Dimensional recommends KVIRC.
[19:53] <JaySwizzle> cakeboss: I am actually wanting to try and learn, beginners got to start some where though
[19:53]  * Dimensional doesn't know how to help you, backbox.
[19:53] <backbox> and auto connections get confused and jump around
[19:53] <cakeboss> JaySwizzle: right, start with something you can manage...like something with a gui
[19:53] <Dimensional> I made a client bridge with 2 routers, one that was connected to the other.
[19:53] <cakeboss> Just because you were a guy fawkes mask doesn't mean you can computer.
[19:54] <Dimensional> backbox, just don't try it then. It's just going to cuase more harm than good.
[19:54] <cakeboss> wear*
[19:54] <JaySwizzle> What would you suggest I try first then?
[19:54] <cakeboss> JaySwizzle: Try xchat or mIRC
[19:54] <Dimensional> JaySwizzle: It's a good idea to get another client. I recommend KVIrc, because it has a GUI, and not hard to configure.
[19:54] <Dimensional> And it's opensource
[19:54] <cakeboss> JaySwizzle: you can make scripts in both of them. Then graduate to big boy programs like irssi
[19:54] <Dimensional> completely free.
[19:54] <JaySwizzle> Alright i'll check those out, thanks!
[19:54] <backbox> I can get this I know I can...
[19:55] <lesshaste> how do I tell rygel which directory my music is in?
[19:55]  * mikey_ yawn
[19:55] <mrHat> hel anyone
[19:55] <backbox> I've seen it done on win xp... so i don't see why ubuntu couldn't do it
[19:55] <holstein> lesshaste: where is your music? ~/Music ?
[19:55] <bean> !ask | mrHat
[19:55] <quick-> hi guys can i install ubuntu on a windows 8 based pc ? i had heard that coz of UEFI it wasnt possible . Please help
[19:55] <lesshaste> holstein, no.. in another directory
[19:55] <mrHat> ok, so i enabled quotas on the /home directory so i can manager user space... here is fstab : http://imagebin.org/247760  but when i do repquota /home i get http://imagebin.org/247761 .. wtf is doing bind, www-data and some other doing in the report ?? i hate setting up quotas damn it...
[19:55] <Dimensional> backbox, it requires installing bridging software and the works.
[19:55] <holstein> lesshaste: i would just specify where it is then
[19:56] <mrHat> this is the second time im pasting the question
[19:56] <Dimensional> Quick-, it's possible. Read up on Grub2 and UEFI
[19:56] <bean> mrHat, its likely that it just looks at ~all~ users on the box.
[19:56] <c0d3_f0r_fUn> Quantal!
[19:56] <backbox> it would be worth the hastle for me... this would be a deticated repeater so i would set it up and leave it
[19:56] <mrHat> bean but i have only enabled quotas on /home
[19:56] <cakeboss> lol
[19:56] <mrHat> how is that possible
[19:57] <lesshaste> holstein, how do you do that in rygel?
[19:57] <Villevicious> I was installin lubuntu 12.10 on my new netbook and ran into a problem. instead of launching the gui it sends me to a commandline enviroment. any ideas on how to find out whats wrong?
[19:57] <bean> mrHat, because it doesn't care about what directory / mount point its enabled on. It will report for ALL USERS likely
[19:57] <quick-> Dimensional: You sure about that ?
[19:57] <backbox> dd-wrt isn't an optio either... doesn't support my routers
[19:58] <Dimensional> quick-: Fairly. I looked at grub2-install, and one of it's options mentioned UEFI and secure boot.
[19:58] <mikey_> has anyone here used gnu screen?
[19:58] <hahaha> hi
[19:58] <backbox> hi
[19:58] <Pici> mikey_: many people
[19:58] <mikey_> HI
[19:58] <bean> mrHat, also, it is probably reporting group quotas as well
[19:59] <quick-> Dimensional:  Thanks mate :)
[19:59] <hahaha> ?
[19:59] <holstein> lesshaste: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man5/rygel.conf.5.html seems like in the config file whatever uris is
[19:59] <hahaha> t
[19:59] <mrHat> bean it kind of makes me wonder if quotas are only indeed setup for the /home and not /
[20:00] <bean> mrHat, do they appear when you do "repquota -u /home"
[20:00] <backbox> I use xfce have since gnome took a shit sorry micky_
[20:00] <mrHat> bean
[20:00] <mrHat> yeah
[20:00] <bean> mrHat, seeing as how they're not reporting any limits, i wouldn't worry about it
 has anyone here used gnu screen?
[20:00] <mrHat> but they also apear when i do repquota /
[20:01] <FCHMMR> ^a then c -- make new screen
[20:01] <FCHMMR> ^a then n - switch screen
[20:01] <FCHMMR> ^a then d -- leave screen
[20:01] <skorasaurus> Hi, I'm suddently unable to connect to my wireless network Although i'm able to connect to other protected ones.
[20:01] <FCHMMR> ^a then x - lock screen
[20:01] <Pici> FCHMMR: stop
[20:01] <skorasaurus> and my android device can still connect to my home wireless network.
[20:02] <bean> FCHMMR, please use 1 line. Enter is not punctuation
[20:02] <FCHMMR> i will attempt to better emulate the required etiquette in the future.
[20:03] <skorasaurus> i receive a "wireless network authentication required" and enter in my correct password, but the message appears again after a minute or so.
[20:03] <skorasaurus> and here's the syslog as I've tried to connect to my network http://paste.ubuntu.com/1691288/
[20:04] <Georg> Hola a todos! When my system start (Ubuntu 12.10) appears this message: " unreliable CPU thermal sensor; monitoring disabled " Anybody knows how to solve it?
[20:04] <prashant_123456> not able to increase screen resolution using ubuntu 12.04 and onboard graphics intel dg41rq
[20:05] <mikey_> Pici: Any ideas why it would be introducing an extra terminal when I enable starting on screen 1 as indicated in the Arch Wiki (https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GNU_Screen)
[20:05] <thetaruetheta> Georg:-) best to do is ignore it or maybe upgrade to the latest kernel, maybe.
[20:06] <skorasaurus> I have already unplugged my cable  modem, rebooted my computer, and have all of the information ready from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6183681
[20:06] <mikey_> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GNU_Screen#Start_at_window_1 For a more acurate link
[20:06] <backbox> okay than can I have my server service two networks simultaneously‎?
[20:07] <lesshaste> holstein, thanks
[20:07] <Georg> thetaruetheta: ok, thanks :). How can I upgrade my kernel?
[20:08] <skorasaurus> hmm, how quickly do paste.ubuntu.com pastes expire ?
[20:08] <Pici> skorasaurus: never
[20:09] <thetaruetheta> Georg:-) not difficult, but can be daunting for a newbie. I would suggest searching for debiqn or Ubuntu kernel howto's.
[20:09] <sofyan> please some body im using backtrack 4r2 how to install modem cdma fast 2
[20:09] <fishwithapipe> mikey_ as I see it, a terminal is started in the screen session so that you can actually do stuff with it
[20:09] <thetaruetheta> George:-) debian
[20:10] <fishwithapipe> if there was no terminal, how would you use the screen?
[20:10] <DJones> Georg: I'd suggest you have a look at this as well, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2097909 It looks like there is a bug that gives that error message as well
[20:10] <DJones> !backtrack | sofyan
[20:10] <skorasaurus> interesting, I made several pastes 2 days ago and all say they no longer exist.
[20:10] <Georg> thetaruetheta: Thanks! I'll read about that!
[20:11] <mikey_> fishwithapipe: yes. I've a few screens set up but when trying to use the code I linked to start with a screen (not sure of the correct terminology) number of 1 rather than 0 it adds one more to however many I have
[20:11] <mikey_> fishwithapipe: so I've 4 defined in my .screenrc and I end up with 5
[20:12] <BluesKaj> mikey_, 0 is screen 1
[20:12] <Georg> DJones: Thanks friend, I'll put an eye on that :)
[20:12] <mikey_> BluesKaj: ???
[20:13] <thetaruetheta> Georg:-) http://blog.avirtualhome.com/compile-mainline-kernel-ubuntu/
[20:13] <DJones> Georg: This is one of the bug reports https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/653770 its an old bug, but still seems to have recent comments
[20:14] <BluesKaj> mikey_, 5screens would be  0,1,2,3,4 in a Xconfig file
[20:15] <mikey_> BluesKaj: I'm using gnu screen. Which are indeed 0-3 by default with the code linked here (https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GNU_Screen#Start_at_window_1) to make it 1-4 but it seems to add in screen 5
[20:18] <tozen> vlad_starkov: otkuda ty, brat?
[20:20] <yeats> !info unattended-upgrades
[20:22] <xsl> guys im lost... after 2 days the server always hangs ... i'm in a dead end... i dont see errors... i dunno what to do .. :( plz any pointers
[20:23] <iter> xsl, hardware issue perhaps? maybe try livecd for a few days
[20:27] <Applesouce> Hey, is here somebody that knows how to set up a mailserver on Ubuntu? I'm getting kinda frustraded here ...
[20:27] <iter> are you having a specific issue Applesouce
[20:27] <Applesouce> Yes, it's not working >.>
[20:27] <elisa87> how can I run a .exe application in Ubuntu?
[20:27] <Applesouce> elisa87: try "wine"
[20:27] <iter> elisa87: exe is a windows application, it can be run in wine
[20:28] <SteevB> What iter said
[20:28] <iter> Applesouce: could you be more specific?
[20:28] <DJones> !wine | elisa87 Some Windows programmes may work using wine, but if you can, you're better using a native application,
[20:29] <Applesouce> well I tried to follow a thousand tutorials now, and I can't send any mails :> I now tried to send one via TELNET and it says "421 4.3.0 collect: Cannot write ./dfr1MKLYGC019862 (bfcommit, uid=0, gid=107): No such file or directory"
[20:29] <xsl> iter its a server i cannot have that kind of downtime :(
[20:29] <xsl> thx for the tip tough
[20:29] <iter> that is probably a permissions error Applesouce
[20:29] <iter> xsl you are having downtime every two days now :\
[20:30] <Applesouce> How do I fix it? Or better question, is there a easy and nice way to set up a mailserver ....
[20:30] <xsl> iter, true :S
[20:30] <iter> you might try some hardware specific diagnostics
[20:31] <xsl> i already requested the ISP hardware checks .. they say they didnt found anything
[20:31] <iter> Applesouce: you might start over and follow the falko perfect server guide, that's pretty straightforward
[20:31] <xsl> i'm starting to doubt on my configurations ( a hard road to travel ) :(
[20:31] <xsl> its a server with several lxcontainers
[20:32] <iter> so, by hangs you mean no response from console?
[20:32] <Applesouce> ok
[20:32] <iter> can't ctrl-alt-f2 for example ?
[20:32] <Applesouce> I don't remember what should I remove?
[20:32] <iter> Applesouce: no, start from scratch
[20:32] <Applesouce> I could remove postfix, it's the only thing I remember :>
[20:32] <Applesouce> what from scratch?
[20:32] <Applesouce> that is not possible
[20:33] <iter> if you've already "followed a 1000 tutorials" you probably have no idea of your current status
[20:33] <Applesouce> I can not format the server >.>
[20:33] <Applesouce> That is kind of true
[20:34] <elisa87> What should I do for this error? Cannot locate flex binary.
[20:34] <iter> elisa87: sudo apt-get install flex?
[20:36] <xsl> iter maybe its a filesystem problem
[20:37] <iter> xsl, what do you mean by hangs
[20:37] <iter> not responsive to pings? ssh? console commands? drop-kicking ;)
[20:39] <skorasaurus2> hi, how do I obtain a list of the available wireless networks, iwlist scan right ?
[20:40] <parallel21> I cannot seem to get rid of this error: "Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[20:40] <skorasaurus2> because no results are returning when I do that.
[20:41] <parallel21> This is whenever I am using "apt-get -f install"
[20:41] <iter> what package are you getting that error with parallel21
[20:42] <skorasaurus2> parallel21, make sure that you don't have synaptic open
[20:44] <xbox>                   Русские есть?
[20:44] <DJones> !ru | xbox
[20:44] <tozen> xbox: est'
[20:45] <elisa87> I restarted my computer but yet I have this error: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[20:45] <xbox> жость, поставил на xbox 360 линукс. Я его в глаза первый раз вижу)))
[20:45] <xbox> Хоть и ремонтом пк занимаюсь)
[20:47] <walkertex> Guys I need advice. Im shipping a tablet back to reclaim my warranty but theres sensitive info that might be construed as illegal on the tablet
[20:47] <tozen> elisa87: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[20:47] <walkertex> should I have to worry about them searching my hard drive?
[20:48] <tozen> xbox: i chjo tam?
[20:48] <mussa> مرحبا
[20:48] <walkertex> misconstrued* not construed
[20:48] <elisa87> what's the reason for Cannot locate wish binary.??
[20:48] <elisa87> tozen: thanks a ton
[20:49] <elisa87> !fuser
[20:49] <mussa> مرحبا
[20:49] <tozen> elisa87: glad to helpu
[20:49] <mussa> في عرب
[20:49] <xbox> можно в нете лазить))) В принципе больше как я понял не чего не сделаешь((
[20:49] <DJones> !arabic | mussa
[20:50] <DJones> !ru | xbox
[20:50] <walkertex> Oh dear :(
[20:50] <tozen> xbox: ja tut na androud stavil, ta zhe hren', vot, zhdu oktjabrja kogda vyjdet reliz na smartfony...
[20:51] <walkertex> Should I have to worry about the OEM searching my hard drive when returning a tablet for warranty?
[20:52] <apb1963_> In /var/spool/cron/crontabs/root  it says:  # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE - edit the master and reinstall.  Where is this master file it refers to?
[20:52] <vitor> lol
[20:53] <jrib> apb1963_: you should use the "crontab -e" command
[20:54] <null_radix> hey anyone know how hard it is to completey replace the window manager? im on 12.10
[20:54] <graft> anyone here use sshfs? i have issues with it hanging up
[20:54] <jrib> null_radix: install the one you want and choose it from the dropdown at the login screen
[20:55] <holstein> null_radix: i would just search "replace xfce with gnome in ubuntu 12.10" for example.. it really depends on from what to what, and you dont have to "replace".. you can run more than one
[20:56] <parallel21> iter: linux-image-2.6.32-39-server
[20:59] <KI4RO> What is signon-ul?  When I restart I get a message that says it is still running and should I restart anyway
[21:00] <apb1963_> jrib: thanks, but that doesn't really help.  An application I'm installing wants to modify that file.  I don't think crontab -e is going to do the trick
[21:00] <jrib> apb1963_: what application is this?
[21:01] <apb1963_> jrib: a third party application I want to install
[21:01] <jrib> apb1963_: be specific...
[21:02] <apb1963_> jrib; is the application relevant  to the answer to the question?
[21:02] <Brasileiro> iiiiiiiuipo
[21:02] <jrib> apb1963_: yes, because that file should never be edited directly.  Applications generally use the directories in /etc/cron.* to install cronjobs
[21:02] <lunitik> null_radix: Unity is a plugin for Compiz, so just install something else and choose that when you're logging in... usually it is just a case of using --replace but that isn't valid here.
[21:04] <apb1963_> jrib: so you are suggesting that the "master file" referred to is in /etc/cron.* ?
[21:04] <skorasaurus2> hi, i'm unable to connect to my home wireless network but i'm able to connect to my neighbor's; i have 12.04, and this problem just started occuring within the past 3 days, haven't done any hardware modifications since then.
[21:05] <skorasaurus2> my android phone can still connect to my network without any problems.
[21:05] <jrib> apb1963_: no, probably not.
[21:05] <skorasaurus2> I have a repeated ""wireless network authentication required"
[21:05] <skorasaurus2> entered the correct password but the message still returns
[21:06] <jhutchins_wk> skorasaurus2: Perhaps you do not have the correct encryption selected.
[21:06] <hfic> Hi All, I've got a question about vsftpd. service vsftpd restart says it restarted and gives me a pid, but ps -ef doesn't show ftp running. suggestions?
[21:06] <skorasaurus2> well, i haven't changed any of that, but how should I double check ?
[21:07] <wiggmpk> skorasaurus2: or its possible your card doesnt support the type of encryption your using.. is it a newer wireless card?
[21:07] <wiggmpk> skorasaurus2: and has it worked before?
[21:07] <skorasaurus2> i've been using this card with no problems for about 8 months.
[21:07] <wiggmpk> k
[21:07] <skorasaurus2> it's a Atheros Communications Inc. AR9287 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[21:07] <unhuman> hey
[21:08] <wiggmpk> skorasaurus2: are you using Ubuntu with Unity?
[21:08] <skorasaurus2> yes, 12.03
[21:08] <skorasaurus2> 04*
[21:08] <unhuman> i notice that when i'm logged in to ssh i cannot log in to sftp on that server, so it seems it only allows one session of this user on ssh at one time... could it be so? how do i change it?
[21:08] <skorasaurus2> but i'm using unity2d, because of some video bugs :(
[21:08] <wiggmpk> skorasaurus2: have you tried "forgetting" the network and attempting to connect again?
[21:08] <skorasaurus2> wiggmpk, yes i have.
[21:08] <skorasaurus2> and i deleted my setting in the network manager, and rebooted.
[21:09] <skorasaurus2> i have syslogs, dmesg if you'd like
[21:09] <jhutchins_wk> unhuman: Who configured the server?
[21:09] <wiggmpk> skorasaurus2: have you tried connecting manually? like instead of selecting the broadcast, manually configuring it?
[21:10] <jhutchins_wk> skorasaurus2: No point in us looking at the syslogs if they don't say anything about the network connection.
[21:10] <kgalahassa_> are there some bugs with wine?
[21:10] <jhutchins_wk> skorasaurus2: dmesg might also be of interest.
[21:10] <wiggmpk> kgalahassa_: there are always bugs in wine
[21:10] <kgalahassa_> i'm willing installing it , but i'm not sure if my ubuntu can support it
[21:10] <jhutchins_wk> skorasaurus2: A wild guess is that the update added new types of encryption and now it doesn't match the router.
[21:11] <kgalahassa_>  what do you propose to me ?
[21:11] <wiggmpk> kgalahassa_: not sure I understand what your asking
[21:11] <skorasaurus2> jhutchins_wk, it does mention the network connection in it.
[21:11] <jhutchins_wk> kgalahassa_: We can give you basic support if you're using the stock Ubuntu packages.  Beyond that there's #wine.
[21:11] <petra> Hello. Trying to install Ubuntu 12.10 from an USB stick with full disc encryption. Booted from stick, started installation, selected "encrypt system" and "use lvm", next choose passphrase. Now I start entering. The verification checker at the right first changes from "bad password" to "strong password", then once upon a character back to "password too short" and stays at that whatever else is entered.
[21:12] <kgalahassa_> I'm asking if ubuntu 12.10 supports wine bugs
[21:12] <skorasaurus2> http://pastebin.ca/2316700 is my syslog of when i was trying to connect to my network.
[21:12] <jhutchins_wk> kgalahassa_: Bugs in the ubuntu packages yes.
[21:12] <petra> I tried with various passwords, using different casing and special chars, and also tried only characters. The change back to "password too short" appears at different characters, I don't see a pattern. This seems really weird.
[21:12] <petra> Any idea what's going on there?
[21:13] <kgalahassa_> I'm asking if ubuntu 12.10 supports wine's bugs
[21:13] <petra> Uppercase characters seem to make the "password too strong" (which also greys out the "continue with installation" button) appear sooner
[21:13] <petra> I searched bugzilla and googled quite a bit, but didn't find a single report of this.
[21:13] <wiggmpk> skorasaurus2: WPA: 4-Way Handshake failed - pre-shared key may be incorrect
[21:13] <kgalahassa_> is it a free dictionary english I can use?
[21:13] <skorasaurus2> i know my network password is correct.
[21:14] <skorasaurus2> i have tried it with my android device and it works.
[21:14] <kgalahassa_> is it a free dictionary english I can use?
[21:14] <jhutchins_wk> skorasaurus2: 4-Way Handshake failed - pre-shared key may be incorrect
[21:14] <pkexec-nopass-pl> hi
[21:14] <skorasaurus2> kgalahassa_, wordnet
[21:14] <Hyuristyle> hey, anyone having troubles with wired internet connection? specifically on ubuntu?
[21:14] <jhutchins_wk> Nice verbose log at least.
[21:14] <pkexec-nopass-pl> my question in my nick
[21:15] <Hyuristyle> ubuntu/lubuntu*
[21:15] <DJones> kgalahassa_: Ubuntu 12.10 uses wine version 1.4, if there are bugs in wine, then the bugs will most likely be in the version used in Ubuntu
[21:15] <jrib> apb1963_: by "master file" they probably just mean your own file where you like to write your crontab (instead of using crontab -e directly).  I'm not sure exactly what you are trying to do.  Have you sorted your issue?
[21:15] <wiggmpk> skorasaurus2: are you using WPA or WPA2?
[21:15] <pkexec-nopass-pl> i dont want enter password on package installing with synaptic everytime
[21:16] <pkexec-nopass-pl> i wanna use pkexec without password
[21:16] <skorasaurus2> WPA personal
[21:16] <KI4RO> What is signon-ul?  When I restart I get a message that says it is still running and should I restart anyway
[21:16] <skorasaurus2> and i've verified that was I have in my settings in my network connection.
[21:17] <wiggmpk> skorasaurus2: and you have connected before with the same hardware and the same OS? when did you notice the probleM/
[21:17] <petra> we just tried rebooting and doing it again, same thing. Are there some characters or length or so that are not allowed in dm-crypt/LUKS passphrases? Or what else could be the problem?
[21:18] <MMlosh> Hi! I think I am having a HDD-space leak with ecryptfs..   I deleted a 1GB file, but the space did not get freed up! :(   Is there a dedicated ecryptfs channel that could assist me?
[21:18] <skorasaurus2> wiggmpk, yes, i've tried with same hardware and same os. I had no problems for 7 months until suddenly about 72 hours ago.
[21:19] <wiggmpk> skorasaurus2: what changed in the past 72 hours? updates?
[21:19] <pkexec-nopass-pl> i dont want pkexec ask password
[21:21] <Hyuristyle> skorasaurus2: having troubles with internet connection?
[21:21] <skorasaurus2> Hyuristyle, yes.
[21:22] <Hyuristyle> skorasaurus2: same here
[21:22] <Hyuristyle> starting from about 2 or 3 days ago
[21:22] <Hyuristyle> suddenly
[21:22] <hfic> Hi All, I've got a question about vsftpd. service vsftpd restart says it restarted and gives me a pid, but ps -ef doesn't show ftp running. dmesg says 'vsftpd respawning too fast, stopped'
[21:23] <pkexec-nopass-pl> i dont want write password everytime for install package with synaptic
[21:23] <wiggmpk> pkexec-nopass-pl: you have to..
[21:24] <pkexec-nopass-pl> ok
[21:24] <Quest> I have windows 7 and ubuntu 12.(the latest). what is the easiest way to delete the windows 7 entry from the boot loader (grub) and make it appear to a new user that the computer only has ubuntu installed ?
[21:24] <moon`> is there a way to enable system updates without rebooting.  Like ksplice or something?
[21:24] <moon`> quest edit the bootloader and remove the windows entry?
[21:24] <wiggmpk> pkexec-nopass-pl: installing a package requires root, gained by using "sudo", prompting for a password is for security
[21:24] <Quest> moon` yes i think. how to do that?
[21:24] <wiggmpk> skorasaurus2: have you tried changing your password via your router?
[21:25] <moon`> Quest: I don't know let me google it, I haven't had to do it since I used gentoo
[21:25] <pkexec-nopass-pl> but its not matter for me. wiggmpk
[21:25] <skorasaurus> wiggmpk: i have not yet.
[21:25] <skorasaurus> changed my router password.
[21:25] <Quest> moon` ok
[21:25] <skorasaurus> at least in several months.
[21:25] <wiggmpk> skorasaurus2: not your router password, the wifi password
[21:25] <pkexec-nopass-pl> i can do it with sudo. but i cant with pkexec
[21:25] <skorasaurus> yes, that I haven't also changed in several months
[21:26] <moon`> Quest: http://askubuntu.com/questions/100232/how-do-i-change-the-grub-boot-order
[21:26] <moon`> I didn't read the page, read through that and see if it helps
[21:26] <pkexec-nopass-pl> is "gksudo synaptic" same wsynaptic-pkexec"
[21:26] <wiggmpk> skorasaurus2: are you using any custom firmware or anything like Tomato or DD-WRT?
[21:26] <MonkeyDust> !find pkexec
[21:26] <skorasaurus> wiggmpk: no.
[21:26] <Quest> moon` let me see
[21:26] <skorasaurus> I don't belive so.
[21:27] <wiggmpk> pkexec-nopass-pl: if it requires root privileges it will prompt you for a password man.. im not familiar with what your doing, but it sounds like you need to escalate your privileges to do it.
[21:27] <wiggmpk> skorasaurus2: try just changing your password.. or changing the encryption to WEP.. or a combination of both, just to enure that you can still associate with the router..
[21:27] <skorasaurus> last packages i updated - http://pastebin.ca/2316704
[21:28] <pkexec-nopass-pl> Why even ubuntu isnt user-friendly?
[21:29] <pkexec-nopass-pl> sh*t
[21:29] <MonkeyDust> pkexec-nopass-pl  i guess nobody has ever heard of pkexec, maybe you should elaborate on it
[21:29] <Quest> moon` i wonder why the page is not loading correctly
[21:29] <petra> puh, found it. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1068391 . updating now then trying again.
[21:29] <moon`> Quest: can I pm you?
[21:30] <Quest> moon` of-course
[21:31] <wiggmpk> pkexec-nopass-pl: I just googled pkexec and its a graphical front end for PolicyKit, just taking a guess that it requires root =P, Ubuntu is very user friendly btw
[21:31] <moon`> is there a way to enable system updates without rebooting.  Like ksplice or something?
[21:32] <bastarden> hello...anyone knows what is the default root password for lubuntu 12.10 live cd?
[21:33] <MonkeyDust> bastarden  there is no root password
[21:33] <bastarden> well there is...when i try to su it requires a password
[21:33] <wiggmpk> !root | bastarden
[21:33] <bastarden> blank password or root/lubuntu doesn`t work
[21:33] <MonkeyDust> bastarden  that's your own password
[21:33] <wiggmpk> bastarden: by default the root account is locked.. therefore it has no password
[21:34] <bastarden> sudo apt-get....worked without password...thanks for the heads up
[21:34] <mussa_> مرحبا
[21:35] <r_a_f> mussa_: i love u :)
[21:35] <Hyuristyle> skorasaurus2:  if my problem is the same that your, i think there's no relation with updates
[21:35] <wiggmpk> bastarden: if you already authenticated "sudo" in the same terminal, it wont prompt you again for some time, or if the screen is locked, or if you open a different terminal
[21:36] <randomuser33> hey guys, does the newest version of ubuntu have the memtest86 still built into the grub boot screen?\
[21:36] <bastarden> got it...thanks
[21:36] <skorasaurus2> sigh.
[21:36] <wiggmpk> skorasaurus2: did you try changing the encryption type and/or password?
[21:36] <skorasaurus2> changed my password on my wifi
[21:36] <wiggmpk> skorasaurus2: same result?
[21:36] <Hyuristyle> skorasaurus2:  i am having the problem both in Ubuntu and Lubuntu. Lubuntu is updated and Ubuntu is very outdated
[21:36] <MonkeyDust> randomuser33  yes, there's a memtest
[21:36] <skorasaurus2> network and it's now working.
[21:37] <skorasaurus2> thanks for the help wiggmpk.
[21:37] <wiggmpk> skorasaurus2: so just changing the WiFi password worked?
[21:37] <randomuser33> MonkeyDust, ah for some reason I didn't see it.
[21:37] <skorasaurus2> and i changed to wpa2 personal
[21:37] <skorasaurus2> from wpa1.
[21:37] <skorasaurus2> i didn't try only changing the password.
[21:37] <skorasaurus2> or only wp2.
[21:37] <wiggmpk> skorasaurus2: cool, still doesnt really answer your issue, but works around it.. I've given up on wireless encryption myself
[21:38] <skorasaurus2> it's been a pain for me over the years on ubuntu (With different computers)
[21:38] <skorasaurus2> i had mine unencrypted until neighbors started using my connection way too much
[21:38] <wiggmpk> skorasaurus2: WPA2 is better anyway, I use MAC address filtering and disable the broadcast
[21:38] <mussa> هاي
[21:39] <nearst> hiya people
[21:39] <mussa> مافي عرب هون
[21:39] <mussa> هههههههه
[21:39] <FloodBot1> mussa: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:39] <MonkeyDust> !ubuntu-arabic | mussa
[21:39] <r_a_f> mussa: still love you :)
[21:40] <mussa_> اي اوكي ماشي
[21:40] <mussa_> كيف الحال
[21:40] <DJones> !arabic | mussa_
[21:40] <r_a_f> mussa_: yes - I know that
[21:41] <r_a_f> mussa_: you're talking to me?
[21:41] <mussa> yes
[21:41] <mussa> انت ام شب
[21:41] <r_a_f> salem
[21:41] <mussa> اهلين
[21:41] <MonkeyDust> mussa  that's enough, english please
[21:42] <mussa> طيب بركي فصلوني هلا
[21:42] <mussa> r-a-f
[21:42] <r_a_f> mussa: sudo apt-get instal ... :)
[21:43] <r_a_f> sry apt-get install ;)
[21:43] <mussa> r-a-f what
[21:43] <Smilex> I'm currently using Vesa for graphics, how do I change to mesa?
[21:43] <mussa> i do not andrstand
[21:44] <r_a_f> mussa: sharm el shaikh?
[21:45] <mussa> r-a-f am new in her help me
[21:46] <mussa> he he he
[21:46] <r_a_f> mussa: OK I help you !
[21:47] <r_a_f> mussa: problem ?
[21:47] <mussa> yes speak with me in arabeck
[21:47] <DJones> mussa: This channel is English only for Ubuntu support, if you have a support question, feel free to ask it, support in arabic is in #ubuntu-arabic
[21:49] <Dunya> OFFF
[21:49] <Dunya> yo
[21:49] <mussa> r-a-f
[21:49] <Dunya> hey
[21:49] <r_a_f> mussa: hello
[21:49] <unhuman> how can i find out why being added to a certain group denies ssh access for a user?
[21:49] <Dunya> Hi
[21:50] <Dunya> To find out you must take your foot, and shove it up your ass
[21:50] <r_a_f> mussa: country? Egipt , Tunisia, Pakistan, Iran?
[21:50] <ninjatomate> Already feeling at home in this channel
[21:50] <mussa> go to arabick abuntu if u can
[21:50] <mussa> syria
[21:50] <r_a_f> wow nice
[21:50] <mussa> he he he
[21:50] <mussa> and u
[21:51] <r_a_f> Poland
[21:51] <Vivekananda> Hey everyone. I am back with a brand new install of lubuntu 12.04 and testing it out. Do we have a separate channel for it or shoudl I ask the general questions here. For one I want to get an easier way of arranging launchers and icons on a panel as was in gnome
[21:51] <mussa> اهلا وسهلا
[21:51] <mussa> ههههههههههه
[21:51] <FloodBot1> mussa: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:51] <mussa> sory
[21:51] <Vivekananda> and second I need a way to get the keybindings working
[21:51] <k1l> !ot | mussa r_a_f
[21:51] <mussa> ok ok ok sory
[21:52] <mussa> he he he he he
[21:52] <mussa> r-a-f can you anderstand arabick
[21:52] <Vivekananda> any suggestions anyone ?
[21:53] <r_a_f> mussa: no :/
[21:53] <mussa> oky
[21:53] <r_a_f> mussa: but I like it :)
[21:53] <mussa> i will learn u
[21:53] <r_a_f> haha ok
[21:53] <mussa> ok
[21:53] <holstein> Vivekananda: theres #lubuntu ..there are only these http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Main_Menu
[21:54] <mussa> you are mail or femail
[21:54] <mussa> ?
[21:54] <r_a_f> yup I give you
[21:54] <holstein> !ot | mussa
[21:54] <hfic> question about vsftpd. service vsftpd restart says it restarted and gives me a pid, but ps -ef doesn't show ftp running. dmesg says 'vsftpd respawning too fast, stopped'
[21:54] <mussa> what
[21:55] <Vivekananda> mussa:  what he means is this is a pretty busy channel and lots of people are dying without help 1! so ask help
[21:55] <wiggmpk> mussa: if you want to chat go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:55] <k1l> mussa: you were told several times not to drop that offtopic in here. go to the channel mentioned if you just want to chat
[21:56] <Vivekananda> holstein: got to lubuntu. Let us see if anyone there would help. By the way the mplayer for lubuntu is suddenly like the movie is moving in slow motion thought the sound is fine
[21:56] <Vivekananda> any suggestions? I tried to increase the buffer for each
[21:56] <holstein> Vivekananda: graphics driver
[21:57] <Vivekananda> holstein: I tried running glxgears and glxinfo.
[21:57] <axgb> I was fiddling around with packages; I wanted to get an older version of CUPS, because the new version does not work with xerox workcenter, and it now says all about broken packages. What should I do. I tried sudo -f; but that does not work, it says error (1) and that is all it says to do online
[21:57] <Vivekananda> What else
[21:57] <axgb> Should I try again in recovery mode?
[21:57] <Vivekananda> asking in lubuntu I should
[21:58] <dikim33> Hi, anyone can help me to resolve the conflict between libopensm2 and libopensm5 packages on ubuntu 12.04 ?
[22:01] <mussa> jfds
[22:01] <mussa> r-a-f
[22:01] <strup> hi
[22:01] <r_a_f> mussa: look in private channel
[22:02] <mussa> raf
[22:02] <k1l> mussa: last time now! stop that or you will recieve a ban
[22:02] <k1l> !ot > mussa
[22:02] <mussa> ok
[22:03] <mussa> as u like
[22:03] <mussa> sory
[22:03] <mussa> r_a_F
[22:05] <r_a_f> mussa; /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:05] <r_a_f> I am there
[22:05] <darent> hello, good night
[22:05] <darent> or morning or whatever it is where you are...
[22:06] <darent> does somebody know what are the requirements to run ubuntu on a tablet?
[22:06] <darent> a mean, any dual core tablet will do?
[22:07] <DJones> !tablet | darent
[22:07] <darent> ok, thanks and sorry
[22:07] <DaemonicApathy> Is there a known reason for the manufacturer splash screen not showing on boot after upgrading Ubuntu 12.04.2 to use the 3.5.0-25-generic kernel? My laptop was trying to boot to an empty ODD, with no initial splash, before I booted into a 12.04.1 disc and restarted. Now the manufacturer screen is just skipped upon booting, this time to the SSD.
[22:09] <tinker> 216
[22:11] <DaemonicApathy> I think I'm going to assume that my CMOS is dying.
[22:12] <wiggmpk> DaemonicApathy: how old if your machine?
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[22:12] <FloodBot1> setkeh: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:12] <DJones> stop that
[22:12] <DaemonicApathy> wiggmpk: Not a year yet.
[22:13] <wiggmpk> DaemonicApathy: unlikely an issue with CMOS, does your computer frequently loose its time?
[22:14] <DaemonicApathy> wiggmpk: No, which was what confused me. I was going to reboot without an internet connection to check that out, in case of active syncing.
[22:14] <Davor> hello
[22:14] <Davor> how do I disable unity and boot to tty?
[22:14] <kingbeast> hey Davor
[22:15] <wiggmpk> DaemonicApathy: this is a branded machine? originally with Windows 8? or later?
[22:15] <NoiseEee> hi, I'm running a server edition (10.04)....  should I be rebooting when there are new kernel/linuxheader updates?  i don't get prompted to (ie: the machine doesnt say "Reboot Required" when I ssh into it)
[22:15] <wiggmpk> NoiseEee: if you want to use the new kernel, then yes you would have to reboot
[22:15] <guntbert> !text | Davor
[22:15] <NoiseEee> wiggmpk: thanks.
[22:15] <DaemonicApathy> wiggmpk: Toshiba, originally with Windows 7, using a different hard drive for several months now.
[22:15] <darent> well, if you don't reboot, what's the point on upgrading the kernel?
[22:15] <Davor> thanks guntbert
[22:16] <NoiseEee> darent: beats me, i just do all the updates.
[22:16] <NoiseEee> darent: i just find it weird that most of my ubuntu boxes say 'reboot required' when i ssh in after such an update; this one never does
[22:16] <guntbert> Davor: You're welcome
[22:16] <wiggmpk> DaemonicApathy: double check your BIOS settings to see if you or something disabled the splash screen.. do you see anything when the power is turned on? like a verbose mode?
[22:17] <darent> NoiseEee: don't know, in theory it should ask you for a reboot, but i've never installed server...
[22:17] <DaemonicApathy> wiggmpk: Nothing - can't access the BIOS settings, no keypresses result in anything before the OS boots.
[22:17] <wiggmpk> DaemonicApathy: laptop?
[22:17] <DaemonicApathy> wiggmpk: Yes.
[22:17] <wiggmpk> DaemonicApathy: disconnect the power and battery for like 30mins.. something may be fouled up.. do you have a reset button on the bottom somewhere?
[22:19] <DaemonicApathy> wiggmpk: No reset button. I tried a hard reset a couple times. I may just let it sit and drain for awhile tonight. For the moment, though, it seems fine other than the lack of splash and BIOS options.
[22:19] <wiggmpk> DaemonicApathy: another theory, your display may not be getting a signal quick enough for you to see the splash screen (or the options to get into the BIOS)
[22:19] <wiggmpk> DaemonicApathy: try to power down (not restart, turn off) then as soon as you hit the power button start hammering F2 or whatever your BIOS option was
[22:19] <skywell> Just push esc if that doesn't bring you to bios restart and try f2, if that doesnt work reboot and try f8
[22:19] <DaemonicApathy> wiggmpk: That's exactly what I was doing.
[22:20] <skywell> And I mean hammering.
[22:20] <wiggmpk> skywell: i've never seen F8 be an option for BIOS
[22:20] <kingbeast> DaemonicApathy, F12 should be the bios key, try repeated taps after hitting the power button
[22:20] <DaemonicApathy> skywell: Luckily, I've known my BIOS keys for quite a while now. I doubt they would change.
[22:20] <skywell> wiggmpk: My iBuyPower, gigabyte motherboard, has the f8. Same issue. My screen doesn't activate fast enough to see the bios so I had to brute fN force it
[22:21] <wiggmpk> skywell: you built your machine?
[22:21] <skywell> DaemonicApathy: I came in kind of late and didn't understand your problem but spewed a random solution so my bad :)
[22:21] <skywell> wiggmpk: no
[22:21] <skywell> wiggmpk: I bought it from iBuyPower
[22:21] <DaemonicApathy> Anyway, thanks guys. I'll play around with it. It was just an unwecome surprise after work.
[22:21] <wiggmpk> skywell: most vendors dont use F8 since thats the key for the advanced boot menu for Windows
[22:22] <wiggmpk> DaemonicApathy: only thing I can tell you is call the manufacturer and dont tell them your using Linux lol
[22:22] <sx2> Hey I'm a linux newbie and just downloaded a program (Celtx) and wondered if sticking the whole folder in /usr/bin would allow me to boot it from the terminal like preinstall software or software install from the package manager(s).
[22:22] <skywell> But windows isn't listening until after bios anyway so lol.
[22:22] <DaemonicApathy> wiggmpk: Ikr? ;-)
[22:22] <wiggmpk> DaemonicApathy: i know, its a shame
[22:22] <darent> delete key, on my motherboard
[22:22] <wiggmpk> skywell: i know, just saying its not typical.. usually F2, F12, Del are the "typical" BIOS keys
[22:23] <kingbeast> on Toshiba's F2 is boot options, F12 is bios settings
[22:23] <skywell> Yea, they need to standardize this stuff already.
[22:23] <skywell> wiggmpk: forgot to tag you last message
[22:23] <wiggmpk> =)
[22:24] <wiggmpk> sx2: you would be better off making a script that calls the program, and using a symbolic link in /usr/bin
[22:24] <wiggmpk> i think
[22:24] <DaemonicApathy> Times like these, it pays to have some experience working on all major manufacturers' machines...otherwise, I may never have gotten back up, never mind in the 10 minutes it took.
[22:24] <skywell> sx2: You should just make a ~/bin folder and add it to your environment path in your .cshrc type file on linux.
[22:25] <DJones> sx2: There are installation instructions on the celtx wiki http://wiki.celtx.com/index.php?title=Installation#For_Linux
[22:25] <skywell> sx2: I think it is ~/.profile on ubuntu
[22:26] <sx2> skywell DJones: Thanks.
[22:26] <skywell> sx2: sudo echo 'alias celtx="./usr/local/celtx/celtx"' >> .profile
[22:27] <skywell> Someone smite me if I am wrong lol.
[22:28] <skywell> sx2: sudo echo 'alias celtx="/usr/local/celtx/celtx"' >> ~/.profile
[22:28] <escott> skywell, an alias should never be local
[22:28] <DJones> sx2: I wouldn't normally recommend a ppa, but as celtx isn't in the ubuntu repo's, there is a ppa that might be worth considering https://launchpad.net/~dreamstudio/+archive/video?field.series_filter=quantal
[22:28] <DJones> !ppa | sx2
[22:29] <mussa> hi
[22:29] <skywell> escott: Un-noob me, why?
[22:30] <escott> skywell, im pretty sure if you change the wd it wont follow
[22:30] <skywell> escott: sorry, wd?
[22:30] <skywell> working directory
[22:30] <escott> yes
[22:30] <skywell> With sudo right? just remove sudo
[22:31] <newuser> What is the hotkey to open the dash again?
[22:31] <k1l> super
[22:31] <newuser> Thanks k1l
[22:32] <DoWhileGeek> ok so I was derping in gparted, accidentally wiped my boot partition, what do
[22:32] <Aprosklitos> Hello! im using Ubuntu 12.10 and i have 2 problems, one with networking and one with image quality with nvidia hardware, if anyone can help with any of these problems please tell me.
[22:32] <skywell> reinstall grub
[22:32] <wiggmpk> lol grab your ankles and....
[22:32] <skywell> DoWhileGeek:
[22:33] <skywell> DoWhileGeek: http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd/
[22:34] <escott> skywell, sudo doesn't make a difference
[22:34] <DoWhileGeek> skywell: thanks
[22:34] <wiggmpk> DoWhileGeek: first I would re-create the /boot partition in gparted if your deleted it altogether, then reinstall grub
[22:34] <skywell> escott: so what is the danger in assigning alias in a users .profile?
[22:34] <escott> skywell, also "sudo echo >> ~/.profile does not do what you expect it to do
[22:35] <escott> skywell, because "echo" runs just fine without root permissions
[22:35] <petru> Hi. Does anyone know of a tool that allows one to effectively change touchpad sensitivity? I have a Dell Inspiron N5050 and it's way too sensitive, although ubuntu settings are at a minimum. I've already tried gpointing-device-settings, without much success.
[22:36] <omico> Hello there! I want to compile ultrastar-deluxe from svn, but it doesn't support current libav (libavcodec53)/ffmpeg libs. That's why I need to install an older version, like libavcodec52. What is the best way to do it? Can I e.g. download that older library from http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid-updates/libavcodec-dev and install it parallel? Maybe into a separate directory and give that path
[22:36] <omico> to configure?
[22:36] <omico> I am using 12.10
[22:36] <skywell> escott: sudo was a pointless addition but I still don't see a problem in putting an alias in your .profile
[22:37] <escott> skywell, your initial alias was a relative path not an absolute path
[22:37] <NetvergentCom_> If anyone can see if there ubuntu has a directory called /var/lib/gdm if they are running gnome because mind does not and I cannot log into the desktop.
[22:37] <omico> Or can I install the older ffmpeg 0.10 parallel to libav?
[22:38] <Aprosklitos> Can anyone help me to setup me network interfaces? i have one wired for LAN purposes only and one wireless for internet and i cannot access the internet without disabling the wired connection. i checked that option on routes menu without luck
[22:38] <Aprosklitos> please help me
[22:38] <wiggmpk> Aprosklitos: are the Wired and Wireless connection on the same subnet?
[22:39] <Aprosklitos> yes 255.255.255.0
[22:39] <wiggmpk> Aprosklitos: i meant IP range
[22:40] <wiggmpk> Aprosklitos: like 192.168.#.#
[22:40] <Aprosklitos> wired is set to manual ip config so i only give it IP and SUBNET, no default gateway or DNS
[22:40]  * rootpt is back.
[22:40] <Guest71669> hello
[22:40] <Aprosklitos> ahh! yes, 192.168.1.x
[22:40] <Aprosklitos> thats the problem?
[22:40] <wiggmpk> Aprosklitos: what exactly is the practical purpose to dictate which device access's the internet?
[22:41] <Aprosklitos> one router is 192.168.1.1 and the other 192.168.1.10
[22:41] <wiggmpk> Aprosklitos: so you have 2 separate routers handing out IP's in the same network segment?
[22:41] <RaYmAn> Longshot, I know, but any canonical people around? It appears my ip got blacklisted for access to _any_ *.ubuntu.com site after attempting a repo sync of the ubuntu phablet android sources :/
[22:42] <Aprosklitos> i dont want to dictate witch device access the net, i need my computer to be able to use my LAN and internet simutainusly
[22:42] <Aprosklitos> yes, in windows this setup works correctly because i've set different ip's to the routers, but they're the same rage
[22:43] <Aprosklitos> also the LAN router has DHCP disabled
[22:43] <wiggmpk> Aprosklitos: I would assume, (and its a guess) that you would have to create iptables rules to do what your trying to do
[22:43] <escott> Aprosklitos, http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/networking/bonding.txt
[22:44] <mussa> i need girl
[22:44] <Aprosklitos> i've tried this guide: http://log4aj.blogspot.gr/2011/03/using-wired-for-lan-and-wireless-for.html
[22:45] <wiggmpk> k1! =)
[22:45] <Aprosklitos> without lucj
[22:45] <Aprosklitos> luck
[22:45] <opr> hi chaps how can i make the brightness keys on my laptop turn the brightness down by just 1 level, instead of 2 as it is doing now?
[22:46] <wiggmpk> Aprosklitos: did you check out escott's link.. I'm not familiar with network bonding, and I cant really wrap my head around what your trying to do
[22:46] <bartzy> Hello
[22:46] <bartzy> My secondary drive on my laptop suddenly started not to spin down.
[22:46] <bartzy> It's not mounted even, not doing anything.
[22:46] <bartzy> When I try doings
[22:46] <Aprosklitos> i need to connect to a home lan via wired with a router without internet access
[22:46] <bartzy> sudo hdparm -S1 /dev/sdb , nothing happens after 5 seconds.
[22:46] <Aprosklitos> and connect to the internet with my wifi router
[22:46] <bartzy> Only when I do hdparm -B1 /dev/sdb, that works
[22:46] <Aprosklitos> simultaneously
[22:47] <bartzy> But that is very aggresive - Can someone explain how to get the secondary drive to spin down every X minutes ?
[22:47] <wiggmpk> Aprosklitos: I understand that part, but the reason why you would want or need to do it
[22:48] <escott> Aprosklitos, do you want to bridge>
[22:48] <hfic> he needs ics
[22:49] <wiggmpk> Aprosklitos: i do think, however, using 2 different routers with the same network segments, is probably not a good idea..
[22:49] <Aprosklitos> wiggmpk: because i need to be able to connect to my brothers computer for file sharing and stuff.
[22:50] <Aprosklitos> it worked fine in windows, can this be a problem for ubuntu?
[22:50] <skywell> Samba makes it less of a problem
[22:50] <skywell> I use Ubuntu to access the windows network shares at work
[22:51] <wiggmpk> skywell: by the information, its 2 completely separate networks.. with completely separate NAT rules
[22:51] <Aprosklitos> yeah i know that, the problem is i cant have lan and wlan run together and still be able to connect to the internet via wifi :p
[22:52] <iter> Aprosklitos: set default gateway to wifi router IP, set static route to brother's IP via wired router IP
[22:52] <Styler2go> Hello Guys. I have an Ubuntu Server with Apache2 and i want to configure subdomains. where can i get help for that? am i correct in here?
[22:52] <Aprosklitos> wiggmpk: ok im going to change ip range to wired router and see
[22:54] <Aprosklitos> iter: thats my setup: WLAN: (DHCP) ip: 192.168.1.4 default gateway: 192.168.1.1 dns: 192.168.1.1 ||| WIRED: (manual) ip: 192.168.1.200 router ip: 192.168.1.10 default gateway: none dns: none
[22:55] <tinker> efnet
[22:55] <Aprosklitos> im going to enable LAN so i can reconfigure the wired router and ill came back
[22:55] <Aprosklitos> brb
[22:55] <iter> Aprosklitos: ok, so you just need to do sudo route add -host 192.168.1.xxx netmask 255.255.255.0 gw 192.168.1.10 eth0
[22:55] <iter> Aprosklitos: where xxx is your brother's IP and eth0 is the correct wired interface
[22:56] <Aprosklitos> iter: what that does?
[22:56] <Styler2go> no one an idea?
[22:56] <Aprosklitos> no thats not my problem
[22:56] <Aprosklitos> i can ping my brother
[22:56] <Aprosklitos> but when i have both connections active i cant access the internet!
[22:56] <iter> please re-read what I wrote
[22:57] <Aprosklitos> i can communicate with both networks but i cant connect to the net
[22:57] <iter> set default gateway to wifi router IP
[22:57] <iter> set static route to brother's IP via wired router IP
[22:57] <Aprosklitos> its already set by dhcp to the wireless interface
[22:57] <Aprosklitos> wired has no gateway set
[22:58] <Aprosklitos> what will static route do?
[22:58] <LazyNoop> Styler2go: look at VirtualHost section of Apache configuration (and setup DNS records)
[22:58] <iter> tells your pc to look for your brother's IP via the wired router
[22:59] <iter> default gateway is where your pc looks if it doesn't know the route
[22:59] <Aprosklitos> but i can already find my brother
[22:59] <iter> mate, please don't argue with me if you don't know what you are on about
[22:59] <Aprosklitos> how can i tell my pc to look at wireless for internet access only?
[22:59] <iter> that would be the default gateway
[23:00] <Aprosklitos> iter: ok im sorry
[23:00] <Aprosklitos> wait 2 mins and ill come back.
[23:00] <Aprosklitos> im ebaling wired now so i will disconnect
[23:00] <Aprosklitos> enabling*
[23:00] <iter> don't
[23:01] <Aprosklitos> am i on?
[23:01] <iter> yes
[23:01] <Aprosklitos> ok i diactivated
[23:01] <Aprosklitos> tell me iter
[23:02] <iter> default gateway set to wifi router IP, static route to brother's IP via wired router IP with the command above
[23:03] <escott> Aprosklitos, you keep saying "it doesn't work" without really describing what the network topology is and how you want it to work. you have lots of options including different routing tables, bonding, bridging etc
[23:04] <bestdnd> how can i open a *.bin image?
[23:04] <Aprosklitos> Wireless router: internet access, ip: 192.168.1.1, DHCP enabled, Automatic IP in my computer.
[23:04] <Aprosklitos> Wireless router: internet access, ip: 192.168.1.1, DHCP enabled, Automatic IP in my computer.
[23:05] <Aprosklitos> Wired router: no internet access, ip 192.168.1.10, DHCP disabled, manual ip in my computer
[23:05] <iter> bestdnd: is it a cdrom image? dvd? hard disk image? bios image?
[23:05] <bestdnd> CD image
[23:05] <Aprosklitos> wireless ip settings: automatic, ip: 192.168.1.4, default route 192.168.1.1 dns 192.168.1.1
[23:05] <escott> !enter | Aprosklitos
[23:06] <Aprosklitos> wired ip settings: manual, ip 192.168.1.200, no gateway or dns
[23:06] <iter> bestdnd: sudo mount file.bin /mnt -t iso9660 -o loop
[23:06] <Aprosklitos> ok im sorry
[23:07] <iter> gotta run
 wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0, missing codepage or helper program, or other error.  In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail  or so
[23:08] <Aprosklitos> whats disturbing me the most is that in windows the same setup runs out of the box, and in ubuntu i cant figure it out! same ip's same setup! :/
[23:09] <tgm4883> Aprosklitos, whats the issue?
[23:10] <Aprosklitos> using LAN without internet connection and WLAN with internet connection in the same time and still being able to connect to internet
[23:10] <tgm4883> Aprosklitos, can you pastebin 'route'
[23:10] <francis_> Hello
[23:11] <InAndOutLand> I have a question!
[23:11] <tgm4883> !ask | InAndOutLand
[23:11] <tgm4883> !Hello | francis_
[23:11] <tgm4883> !hello | francis_
[23:11] <tgm4883> well I guess there isn't an entry for that
[23:11] <francis_> Lol
[23:12] <francis_> !help
[23:12] <francis_> exit
[23:12] <InAndOutLand> I want to boot from a sub. But, In oder for usb to be turned on, Windows has to be booted. How do I boot from the USB like this?
[23:12] <InAndOutLand> ^usb
[23:14] <escott> InAndOutLand, what kind of broken hardware is that
[23:15] <InAndOutLand> It's not broken
[23:15] <InAndOutLand> The usb works.
[23:16] <InAndOutLand> (usb flash drive)
[23:16] <tgm4883> InAndOutLand, apparently not
[23:16] <tgm4883> InAndOutLand, did you enable booting from USB in the BIOS?
[23:16] <InAndOutLand> Yes
[23:16] <InAndOutLand> It is first in the list
[23:16] <tgm4883> InAndOutLand, what do you mean by "In oder for usb to be turned on, Windows has to be booted."
[23:17] <InAndOutLand> If Windows is not booted, the usb flash drive won't be turned on
[23:18] <tgm4883> InAndOutLand, yea, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Why would your USB power be controlled by windows
[23:18] <InAndOutLand> How can I boot from the usb in this suitation?
[23:19] <escott> InAndOutLand, and it powers off on hot reboot?
[23:19] <InAndOutLand> What is hot reboot?
[23:20] <escott> InAndOutLand, don't power off
[23:20] <InAndOutLand> don't power off what?
[23:21] <escott> InAndOutLand, reboot but dont power off
[23:21] <tgm4883> as in, restarting the computer without having to press the power button for it to turn back on
[23:22] <InAndOutLand> Trying that out
[23:23] <InAndOutLand> It's taking so long to reboot from Windows..
[23:23] <InAndOutLand> Still not at the shut down screen
[23:23] <tgm4883> InAndOutLand, what kind of computer is this
[23:24] <InAndOutLand> Windows dosen't want to restart
[23:25] <InAndOutLand> I even tried shutdown -r -t 0
[23:25] <InAndOutLand> That did not do anything...
[23:27] <hfic> What does windows have to do with ubuntu support?
[23:27] <tgm4883> InAndOutLand, what kind of computer is this
[23:27] <InAndOutLand> HP
[23:27] <tgm4883> HP what?
[23:28] <InAndOutLand> HP comoaq
[23:28] <tgm4883> ...
[23:28] <ephesius> he wants the model number not just the brand
[23:28] <sirstan2> How can I get details about a SSL key on my server? .. like an apache .key file
 do you own this SSL key?
[23:30] <InAndOutLand> MsInfo32 is not opening.....
[23:30] <InAndOutLand> Oh, there it is
[23:30] <sirstan2> hfic: irrelevant.  i have the public and private keys and want to get the details from them as you would from a browser.
[23:30] <k1l> InAndOutLand: is this a ubuntu support issue?
[23:30] <tgm4883> k1l, he's trying to boot from USB, but says it won't turn USB on unless windows boots
[23:31] <evilfix> hello all.. i followed the guide at http://paulkeck.com/ssh/ however when i try to ssh to the other machine, it asks me to type the passphrase and then the regular password. i thought this was supposed to stop that not add another layer?
[23:31] <InAndOutLand> It is an HP dc7100
[23:31] <InAndOutLand> (Compaq)
[23:31] <k1l> InAndOutLand: you need to look up the key to get a bootmedium choose
 well apache support isn't here in #ubuntu and if you own the key or not is completely relevant.
[23:32] <sirstan2> hfic: its an openssl key pair, apache was a use example.
[23:32] <InAndOutLand> What does that mean?
[23:32] <InAndOutLand> (k11)
[23:32] <tgm4883> hfic, I'm unsure how it is relevant
[23:32] <k1l> InAndOutLand: there is a key to press after the powerbutton to get a choice what to boot. just look into the manual from the laptop
[23:33] <InAndOutLand> It's not a laptop
[23:33] <evilfix> how can i get ssh key sharing to work between 2 linux machines? i followed the guide at http://paulkeck.com/ssh/ the key is created and scp over to each other machine but still asks for phrase and pass
[23:33] <jrib> !ssh | evilfix
[23:33] <k1l> InAndOutLand: or pc
[23:33] <jrib> evilfix: just use ssh-copy-id
[23:34] <sirstan2> hfic: openssl x509 -noout -in server.pem  -subject << is what I was looking for.
[23:34] <InAndOutLand> What do I do if Windows does not want to reboot?
[23:34] <InAndOutLand> (xp)
[23:35] <fishtech> Hello! Hoping to get some help. My usb jumpdrive will load for a sec and disappear. Never come or load up. How can I fix this?
[23:36] <k1l> InAndOutLand: just shut it down. if that is a problem ask the windows support what to do
[23:36] <evilfix> if i remove id_dsa and id_dsa.pub from my .ssh/ will it at least stop asking me for a phrase and password?
[23:37] <InAndOutLand> escoot told me to reboot
[23:38] <evilfix> nm just figurred it out
[23:38] <evilfix> ssh-agent sh -c 'ssh-add < /dev/null && bash'
[23:40] <smikims> I've seen a lot of people on /r/unixporn use a program that displays some basic system info and an ascii art logo when they take a screenshot. Any idea what it is?
[23:40] <jrib> smikims: probably "archey"
[23:41] <azathoth_> yeah, that would be archey
[23:41] <azathoth_> or there's alis too I believe
[23:41] <azathoth_> not too sure on the second one.
[23:41] <smikims> OK, thanks. Couldn't find what it was called.
[23:44] <evilfix> is ubuntus .bashrc file somewhere different?
[23:44] <jrib> evilfix: what do you mean?  It's in ~/.bashrc
[23:44] <HHT> does any1 having problem with 12.04.2 in networking. Mine always show "networking stop/waiting"
[23:45] <bombard> looking for some help with wine
[23:45] <jrib> bombard: just ask your question (also consider #winehq for questions about using wine)
[23:45] <bombard> im in there
[23:46] <evilfix> not seeing it... see .kde .bash_history .bash_logout .config
[23:46] <bombard> im having trouble installing dungeons and dragons online
[23:46] <bombard> running bash commands for a couple hours with no luck
[23:46] <evilfix> could it be .profile?
[23:46] <jrib> evilfix: what's the issue?  Create one if you don't have one for whatever reason.  By default an account will have one though (as long as it was created in a "nice" way).  The default one is copied from /etc/skel/.bashrc
[23:47] <jrib> evilfix: what do you actually want to accomplish?
[23:47] <nwertman> Quick question.  I have a MacBook Air that will not boot any of the USB drives I have (firmware issue).  I've installed rEFIt and done a 'dd' to install the LiveCD onto a 2 gig partition that I have.  When I boot from there, I'm told 'isolinux.bin missing or corrupt'
[23:47] <evilfix> add an alias that wont disappear on logout
[23:47] <nwertman> I've double checked the MD5 of the download and it checks out.  This is 12.10.  Any suggestions?
[23:47] <jrib> evilfix: you can put it in ~/.bashrc
[23:48] <SonikkuAmerica> nwertman: What version of OS X?
[23:48] <nwertman> 10.7
[23:48] <SonikkuAmerica> Lion
[23:48] <evilfix> i did a locate .bashrc and 4 found, best one looks like /etc/bash.bashrc should i copy and modify it or create new?
[23:49] <jrib> evilfix: no.  Read what I've told you
[23:49] <evilfix> alright ill create the file then
[23:49] <SonikkuAmerica> nwertman: Have you tried Unetbootin?
[23:49] <nwertman> That was where I was going next, but it seems to hang.
[23:50] <nwertman> I think I will do the software updates to 10.7.x (the latest) and try again
[23:50] <bombard> can someone help me install ddo through winewq?
[23:50] <bombard> winehq?
[23:50] <SonikkuAmerica> nwertman: Good idea.
[23:50] <SonikkuAmerica> bombard: Did you check in #wine first?
[23:51] <bombard> sonikkuamerica: im there fishing for a response
[23:51] <SonikkuAmerica> Or maybe not... it's a +i channel
[23:51] <SonikkuAmerica> bombard: Is it rated Platinum or Gold in the AppDB?
[23:51] <steven78> francais ?
[23:52] <SonikkuAmerica> !fr | steven78
[23:52] <InAndOutLand> When I se the HP screen the usb is turned but when I get to the Windows XP screen the usb is off
[23:52] <bombard> sonikkuamerica: its not in the app database. wait let me double check
[23:52] <InAndOutLand> When I get to the welcome screen the usb is turned on
[23:52] <k1l> InAndOutLand: what are you trying to accomplish?
[23:53] <InAndOutLand> Boot from the usb
[23:53] <SonikkuAmerica> bombard: I pulled it up, looks like Gold.
[23:53] <k1l> InAndOutLand: then set "boot usb" to first priority in the bios
[23:53] <wiggmpk> InAndOutLand: if your running Windows XP your computer might not be "new" enough to support booting from USB devices
[23:54] <k1l> well that is the first one to get information from the manual of that mainboard.
[23:54] <InAndOutLand> It does
[23:54] <InAndOutLand> I used Unetbootin to put Ubuntu on the usb
[23:55] <Jeruvy> InAndOutLand, does your BIOS have a boot selection menu?
[23:55] <k1l> InAndOutLand: then change the boot order to usb first
[23:55] <InAndOutLand> Yes
[23:55] <Jeruvy> InAndOutLand can you select it that way?
[23:55] <InAndOutLand> I did select USB device, but it booted me in to Windows XP.
[23:56] <Jeruvy> InAndOutLand, how did you make your USB?
[23:56] <InAndOutLand> Unetbootin
[23:56] <Jeruvy> InAndOutLand did you install a boot loader?
[23:56] <InAndOutLand> Unetbotin did that
[23:56] <Jeruvy> InAndOutLand I don't think it did.
[23:57] <yourimym1> hello how to know if these packages installed already libc6-i386 ia32-libs-multiarch
[23:57] <InAndOutLand> It said it did
[23:57] <Jeruvy> InAndOutLand check it out with parted and see what it says.
[23:57] <InAndOutLand> What's parted?
[23:57] <Jeruvy> !info parted
[23:58] <InAndOutLand> Can I check the USB from Windows?
[23:58] <Jeruvy> or gparted, or any similar tool
[23:58] <Jeruvy> InAndOutLand, not unless you bought something to do that
[23:58] <k1l> InAndOutLand: try this one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#From_Windows
[23:59] <InAndOutLand> What shall I do from there?
[23:59] <HHT> does any1 having problem with 12.04.2 in networking. Mine always show "networking stop/waiting" when do "service networking status/start/restart"
[23:59] <k1l> InAndOutLand: use live usb creator instead of unetbootin
[23:59] <InAndOutLand> I did that, but that produced thae same resulats.3