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cerebrate  um00:03
cerebrateif i hit alt+a it marks me as away on this client :/00:03
Vivekananda?? what do you mean ?00:07
cerebratei dunno lemme check00:07
cerebratei didnt keep a log00:07
cerebratebut i thought i remembered you wanting alt + a to open a terminal for you :>00:07
Vivekanandano no I meant that I just chose someshortcut I liked to call the terminal00:07
VivekanandaI did not know if there would be clashes and all00:08
cerebratehow do i do that (without exposing your particular choice)00:08
Vivekanandayes I did want a keyboard shortcut to open a terminal for me00:08
VivekanandaI chose alt a and now it does :)00:08
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cerebrateoh ok00:08
VivekanandaI had to edit a file in .config00:08
Vivekanandajust add 4 lines to it . Was pretty simple thought but I messed up the first time by not addiing proper closing tags to the xml00:09
Vivekanandaso broke the xml :(. But fortunately had backed it up so now things are fine00:09
VivekanandaAnyone here who can help me sort my graphics card out ??00:09
Vivekanandacerebrate: you know something about the graphics ?00:09
cerebratei doubt i could assist but i'll try for you00:10
cerebrate;-; did not find a way00:10
Vivekananda?? way for what ? getting the shortcut working ?00:15
Vivekanandaor my problem00:15
Vivekanandacerebrate: ?? did you solve the problem00:31
cerebratei dont know about the graphics card issues00:31
cerebratethanks; how do i set up a hotkey to open a terminal in lxde00:53
dorohorohi to allll01:37
VivekanandaIs there a cpufreq scaling applet for cairo or lubuntu in general with colors and all.02:02
Vivekanandaanyone here02:07
VivekanandaI am trying to use the guide here to tweak my graphics card https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver02:07
Vivekanandait talks about having na xorg.conf file and so I tried this site for it and got an errorhttp://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=149202:08
Vivekanandaerror of broken pipes. Is someone there ?02:08
Vivekanandaanyone here02:14
Vivekananda??02:20
Vivekanandahello02:20
Vivekanandaanyone ?02:20
Vivekanandahello03:07
Vivekanandaanyone here03:07
Vivekanandathis is pretty slow and dying :( :(03:07
VivekanandaI am a new user. someone plz listen to meee:(03:07
holsteinVivekananda: its not an issue of anyone "listening"03:21
holstein!patients | Vivekananda03:21
holsteinlol03:21
holstein!patience | Vivekananda03:22
ubottuVivekananda: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/03:22
holsteinVivekananda: what would i suggest you do? install and use xubuntu.. its not as light, but its much more like gnome2, and has a larger community03:22
holsteinVivekananda: otherwise, patiently state your issues, and we'll work through them..03:22
holsteinVivekananda: the custom xorg is usually for tweaking a driver, but it'll be the same for all the variants03:23
holsteinVivekananda: if you have an older machine, you might just have bad video playback in flash03:23
Vivekanandalol yep I should have that .03:23
VivekanandaI only wish someone would say a yep or a wait and I am fine with waiting 10 hours or 20 :).03:24
holsteinVivekananda: sure. then use a more popular OS.. use xubuntu.. or main ubuntu.. this is a small community, and you *will* be waiting around for answers03:25
Vivekanandaholstein: thanks for the comments. I do have an older machine but was working ok in lucid just 3 days back ( I know lucid is old too but not that old I guess 1!)03:25
Vivekanandayep no problems now that I know it . I wonder though why people recommended this to me ( lubuntu) if is not a very active distro03:26
holsteinlucid goes EOL in april.. XFCE from xubuntu is arguably the most like gnome2, which you are used to03:26
Vivekananda3 people told me to go for lubuntu. I wonder why .03:26
holsteinVivekananda: lubuntu is excellent.. its lightweight, and perfect for older hardware03:26
holsteinVivekananda: if you are patient and resourceful, it is a good choice03:26
Vivekanandaok then it is fine now so can I state my issues ?03:27
holsteinVivekananda: if you are wanting something more like what you had (gnome2) and a more active community, try xubuntu03:27
holsteinVivekananda: sure03:27
VivekanandaI want something which is light and fast even when I run eclipse+ tomcat + sql server + other things03:27
Vivekanandagnome even in lucid did not take that so I shifted to this. My system is not that bad and can take it although a little slower so here I am03:28
Vivekanandathere are a few differences and I just want to know what the best way out is for them. First I installed cairo dock so I can get to things easier. I found that it needs a compositiing thing03:29
holsteinVivekananda: none of these will make your machine any faster.. it is what it is, and will run apps at the same speed, regardless.. LXDE is light, and doenst take up resources uncessisarily, taking resources away from other apps03:29
Vivekanandaso I installed xcompmgr03:29
holsteinVivekananda: if you are interested in speed, dont use compositing03:29
Vivekanandaholstein: I understand and that is what my intention is too. Not making it fast per se !03:29
holsteinVivekananda: dont use cario dock.. use somethin glike kupfer03:29
Vivekanandakupfer hmm ok then I am going to download that and remove cairo03:30
Vivekanandaand remove xcompmgr03:30
Vivekanandaand try kupfer. Is it stable ?03:31
holsteinVivekananda: you wont need to ask me that about anything i will suggest to you.. i wont suggest anything without telling you if it has issues03:31
VivekanandaI will just ask you things I find different so I can know how best to tackle them here03:31
Vivekanandaoo k :) thanks03:31
VivekanandaI needed to create custom launchers ( eclipse and all) and put them in the panel for quick opening03:32
Vivekanandaworkaround for this ?03:32
holsteinVivekananda: kupfer03:32
holsteinVivekananda: you'll hit a key combination.. control+spacebar and type.. and launch whatever03:33
holsteinthere are no ittle things to make, and click on03:33
holsteinno more mousing around.. just type and launch03:33
holsteinwith little overhead03:33
VivekanandaThe thing is I have eclipse installed separately and so is sublimetext ( two I remember) If I have to type and launch I need to remember the whole path of all such apps !!!!03:34
holsteinVivekananda: kupfer can remeber that.. or you can make a text file.. or just use the terminal and !03:35
holsteinVivekananda: i ssh into my chat session, and i use !ssh03:36
holsteinusually, its the last ssh command in my history03:36
Vivekanandayes but imagine having to launch any of the 50 or so apps I have without any visual feedback and relying on terminal. Even the terminal forget after a few days ( is it or weeks )03:37
VivekanandaI have never done it before and I just wonder how much extra time it takes to do a ctrl R for reverse search and type the name of the program  ( sometimes not even the same name as I remember it ) and then03:38
holsteinVivekananda: yup.. i choose to do that instead of maintaining little things to click on.. or having the overhead of my UI maintaining them03:38
holsteinVivekananda: you are do waht you like03:38
holsteinVivekananda: there are smaller docks.. i used to use wbar03:38
holsteinits nice, and you can put what you want in it.. doenst need compositing03:38
Vivekanandagood so that is one down03:39
Vivekanandakupfer and wbar03:39
holsteinVivekananda: also, you can use, as i suggested before, the XFCE panel either in xubuntu, or in lubuntu, which you can add whatever you want to03:39
holsteinyou can add another lxde panel and load it up with what you like03:39
holsteinyou can use tint2 panel03:39
holsteinyou can use *any* launcher that doesnt need compositing.. unless you realy want/like cario, then use xcompmgr03:40
holsteini use xcompmgr with my system.. though, i really dont need it03:40
VivekanandaYes I can do that but I cannot find a way to put in custom launchers. If I could then that would be the best for me but I am certainly going to give kupfer a shot03:40
VivekanandaI dont want anything that slows things down but adds nothing to functionality ( I have decided this for now :))03:41
Vivekanandacan I somehow put custom launchers in the panel ?03:41
holsteinVivekananda: you just tell me clearly where you want what03:41
VivekanandaI want an eclipse launcher in the panel03:41
holsteinVivekananda: its all open.. yo can literally do whatever you have the patients to learn how to do03:42
Vivekanandaok03:42
holsteinhttp://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=175&t=9625203:42
Vivekanandaok that helps.03:44
VivekanandaI wanted to have shortcuts to my drives on the desktop. how do I do that ?03:44
holsteinVivekananda: its a right-click option in xubuntu... again, this is anther question easily solved with a heavier DE03:45
Vivekanandathat is a smaller issue though. A bigger and more important is I need to have a dropbox folder installed and regularly synced also visually or somehow showing me that it is in sync or syncing. This is vital03:45
Vivekanandadropbox again would be for a heavier ide ?? :( right ?03:46
Vivekanandagnome made me this :)03:46
Vivekanandabut I want to be more independent and learn how other people manage and even like these lighter ides03:47
holsteinVivekananda: xfce is the closest to emulating gnome203:47
Vivekanandaif it was nto convenient for them they would not use them right ?03:47
holsteinVivekananda: the reason folks use LXDE is because its light.. there are certain compromises.. desktop icon is one of those03:47
holsteinhttp://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php?topic=85098.003:47
holsteinno file manager is drawing anything on the desktop, taking up resources03:48
holsteinand thats is "light"03:48
holsteinwhen you go adding functionality like that, i think one might as well just use XFCE03:48
holsteinhttp://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=175&t=6981403:50
Vivekanandaholstein: nope I am not going to but kind of curious mostly about the thing that all users would need functions like that. E.g . if you had a dropbox folder and doing assignments or projects and storing it in there, you would certainly like to know when the sync finished so you can turn off or hibernate the comp03:50
holsteinyou can use nautilus, but nautilus is heavy, and takes over everything...03:50
holsteinVivekananda: i use a dropbox script that i found using crunchbang, for using dropbox with thunar in openbox03:51
Vivekanandanope. No nautilus for me :). I did try and it wanted me to install everything ( 380megs) so I stopped it short03:51
Vivekanandawhat does the script do ? Does it display reminders about sync ?03:52
Vivekanandaor syncing or something ?03:52
holsteinhttp://crunchbanglinux.org/wiki/howto/add_desktop_icons03:52
holsteinVivekananda: it does simliar to what dropbox does in nautilus, but in the ligher filemanager03:52
holsteinVivekananda: pcmanfm will draw a desktop03:53
Vivekanandaisnt pcmanfm installed by default in lubuntu ?03:53
holsteinVivekananda: i dont remember which.. you can check, and choose to have it draw them.. or install it, and have it draw them03:54
VivekanandaI already have it in my system. what does it mean pcmanfm will "draw a desktop" ?03:56
holsteinVivekananda: if you want desktop icons, like you asked.. it will do that for you in LXDE03:56
Vivekanandaok so I have it and gave it the command pcfman --desktop like on the site03:57
holsteinhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/PCManFM03:58
holsteinhttp://www.linuceum.com/Distros/osDesktopLubuntu.php03:59
VivekanandaI am bookmarkign all these pages for further reading and solving problems later04:00
Vivekanandathe big issue for me was dropbox sync to work . a good substitute for ms office ( for this particular program I am not worried about memory but I need something good so installed libreoffice)04:01
Vivekanandaand also making my computer smoother. It is fast enough but stutters.04:02
holsteinwell, dropbox is working.. it'll work in the background on a server04:02
holsteinwhat you are looking for is somthing that shows you feedback in a GUI that its working04:02
holsteinhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/49531/how-can-i-integrate-dropbox-with-pcmanfm04:02
VivekanandaI will leave the rest of the issues for later. I need some sort of feedback that syncing is done ( so I can be sure I will get the files elsewhere and go to sleep :) )04:03
holsteinVivekananda: msoffice can be run online04:03
holsteinhttp://office.microsoft.com/en-us/web-apps/04:03
holsteini just use libreoffice.. or google docs04:03
Vivekanandayes but I would like to have something with a full fledged formattting options and also tex formatting and stuff for the projects and stuff I have to do for college04:04
VivekanandaI dont want to depend on internet for such things as important assignments / hw04:05
holsteinVivekananda: the first link is office.. the actual office.. i do formatting in all of them04:05
holsteinVivekananda: libreoffice is stand alone04:05
Vivekanandaisnt the web office limited in usage. I have a college account for msonline and I saw that office there is limited ( functional sure but limited )04:05
VivekanandaI have a students account on it04:06
Vivekanandalibreoffice will have to do for now I guess. I also have to format ppts and resume's04:07
holsteinVivekananda: i dont use MS word04:07
Vivekanandayou dont !!!04:07
holsteini dont use it online, or stand alone04:07
holsteini use libreoffice.. or google docs04:07
Vivekanandaomg !! that is new for me !! . so what do you use. ? oo04:07
holstein?04:07
holsteinVivekananda: i use libreoffice04:07
holsteinVivekananda: its not something i use "til i save my money up" or whatever04:07
holsteini choose to use it04:08
holsteini like it.. it works.. i prefer it04:08
Vivekanandanice. But can it do all that ms office can ? formatting issues and stuff. I have faced a lot of those with openoffice but msoffice had so many easy and much extensive ways of doing the same04:08
holsteini dont miss anything... you will have to install and try it and see for yourself04:08
VivekanandaI already did and will be trying it this week itself. From an overview it looks very similar to openoffice04:09
holsteinVivekananda: it *is* openoffice.. openoffice forked to that04:09
Vivekanandao yes one thing I forgot to say. I used OO for quite sometime now and whenver I created a project with pics and stuff and saved as .doc or .docx it would mess up in so many ways I cannot even recall04:09
Vivekanandamy prof couldnot even open it on two separate occasions and I cannot very well send him a .odt file04:10
Vivekanandahe wont know what to do with it !! :)04:10
Vivekanandabut I am wasting your time and mine right now discussing OO. I need to get a handle on three important problems above and get some work done :(04:11
VivekanandaI dont like the terminal on lubuntu. did you use something for that or did you stick with this one04:11
holsteinVivekananda: i dont save as .doc04:12
holsteinVivekananda: i dont need to.. you can though04:12
holsteinVivekananda: your proffessor, and you.. and *anyone* is free to download ad run libreoffice.. free of charge04:12
Vivekanandaholstein: ok but I have to do submissions for school. I cannot do them any other way04:12
holsteinon any operating system04:12
holsteinfolks like me donate time to make sure schools and students dont have to pay anyone to do that04:13
holsteinbut, if you need/want to create .doc documents, you can.. you'll just have to be more cautious04:13
holsteinVivekananda: i dont need to.. nor want to04:13
holsteinVivekananda: i export to pdf04:13
Vivekanandaholstein: "There" I will venture to say, you expect too much !! ( from my practical experience). I have a younger sis and a very nice doc ( one of the top hospitals in the US)  but she does not understand why a computer needs to shut off from time to time and how that helps04:14
holsteinVivekananda: you can ask if you can turn in pdfs.. you can try googledocs..04:14
holsteinVivekananda: i dont shut off my computer04:14
VivekanandaI know but you have different reasons. You wont go and put an ailing heating computer on the bed and block out its vents so that the bed andteh computer catches fire would you ?04:14
Vivekanandabut last and biggest problem for me. Making this computer run smoother. I unistalled cairo and the xcompmgr but they are still there . I guess I need to reboot to get completely cleaer of them right ?04:15
VivekanandaNow onto the biggest problem of checking the graphics working04:16
holsteinor log out and back in04:16
Vivekanandaok will do that04:16
Vivekanandaeven for logout I have to go up top click on logout and then do what not. How do I logout using alt f2?04:17
VivekanandaBefore I do though I want to save a transcript of this chat04:18
Vivekanandaso how do I use kupfer?04:22
VivekanandaI use alt f2 to launch it ?04:22
Vivekanandathen type the name of the thing to open ?04:22
holsteinsure04:22
Vivekanandaor is there any other better way ? oo I know!! I can set a keybind for it :). I tried it now to run logout but nothing happenned04:23
Vivekananda:(04:23
holsteinVivekananda: in kuper, there are preferences.. to have it run as startup04:23
Vivekanandayes but how do I use it when it is running in startup?04:24
VivekanandaI still have to call up the gui somehow right ?04:24
holsteinVivekananda: the preferences panel, documentation, manpage or help will tell you.. but, as i said above, its control+space04:25
Vivekanandathere is documentation for it . I found it ! so will read through that now. also why did "logout" not work ?04:26
Vivekanandaalso in eclipse ctrl space is autocomplete . What happens if I have eclipse running and do that keypress ;P04:27
holsteinVivekananda: you can remap it to what you like, to avoid conflicting with eclipse.. or likely remap that in eclips if you prefer04:29
Vivekanandahmm I guess will do that. You did not tell me of your choice of terminal for lubuntu. I would like to have a little decent terminal and not the one by default. It does not even have line numbers.04:31
VivekanandaAlso about dropbox showing it has finished syncing. Did I miss something you said about that ??04:31
holsteinVivekananda: you can search and find whatever fits your needs.. i use the gnome-terminal.. though terminator is nice04:33
holsteinVivekananda: there is a link above04:33
VivekanandaI am thinking of terminator too.04:33
holsteinhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/04/how-to-install-dropbox-in-lubuntu04:33
Vivekanandafor terminator??04:33
Vivekanandathat is for install which I can do. How does the syncing intimation work ? or will work ?04:34
holsteinVivekananda: the link above i am referencing is for dropbox in pcmanfm.. from the crunchbang documents04:35
holsteinVivekananda: anythig will work you choose to implement04:35
holsteinor, it will literally work out of the box with nautilus04:36
Vivekanandaok so will have to see how it can display / notify that syncing is done. Can you suggest something off the top of your head of what I can try ?04:37
Vivekanandacreating a crontab script??04:37
Vivekanandahmm not cron04:37
holsteinVivekananda: i would try the one above that crunchbang uses04:38
Vivekanandasorry for a stupid question but that link for crunchbag tells me how to make pcfman manage my desktop/ create desktop icons. But my question was about how to get dropbox to tell me syncing is finished for its folder04:41
holsteinhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/49531/how-can-i-integrate-dropbox-with-pcmanfm04:42
holsteinhttp://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=175&t=4820904:42
holsteinhttp://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=2117104:42
holsteinhttp://code.google.com/p/pcmanfm-dropbox-overlay/04:43
Vivekanandathanks. will look into it as well04:47
Vivekanandaholstein: I am trying to locate something for lxsession-save --force-logout or lxsession-quit but nothing is there except lxsession-logout but it shows a gui choosing thing04:59
Vivekanandacant I do this from terminal ?04:59
VivekanandaI am back !05:12
Vivekanandainstalled wbar but it does not run05:13
holsteinVivekananda: a super bar is running05:14
holstein?05:14
VivekanandaI removed it and trying to reinstall. Yes it said using superbar05:16
Vivekanandausing a superbar whatever that means05:17
holsteinVivekananda: you dont need to reinsatll05:18
holsteinhttp://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/wbar.1.html05:18
holsteinwbar -above-desk05:18
Vivekanandayep I tried that myself !! I did show it . Do I have to configure this manually? each time ?05:19
VivekanandaI want it on the left and autohidden and if possible separated apps by a separater05:20
holsteinVivekananda: ?05:20
holsteinVivekananda: you dont have to do anything05:20
holsteinyou dont have to use it05:20
holsteinyou can "configure" it the one time,and set it to autostart05:20
holsteinVivekananda: its open.. you can make it look literally however you want05:20
holsteinthe good thing about wbar is that its light, and simple05:21
holsteinif its already not working for you, just remove it, and go back to cario05:21
holsteini like wbar though.. i remember setting up a nice config for it05:21
VivekanandaIt is ok. Lite and fast and that I like!! but configuring it is another matter. I will have to find a sample config file to get an idea of how to do it.05:23
holsteinhttp://www.upubuntu.com/2011/11/wbar-simple-lightweight-and.html05:24
Vivekanandaholstein: It will take a decent bit of time to configure. I will use something easier now and try it later.05:50
Vivekanandaanything else I could try without a compositing managerr?05:50
holsteinhttp://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/linux-docks.html05:51
holsteinhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81807405:52
Vivekanandahmm so back to cairo then :( without compositing . O well05:56
Vivekanandaholstein: you there ?06:42
VivekanandaI found a file for wbar here http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Utilities/wbarconf-34908.shtml. I downloaded it and ran the install script.06:43
Vivekanandanow what do I do so wbar uses it ?06:43
Vivekanandahi there07:48
Vivekanandaanyone here?07:48
NoskcajVivekananda, yeah. if you don't get an answer here, try #ubuntu08:19
VivekanandaNoskcaj: hello08:20
VivekanandaI wanted to trouble shoot my video card on a fresh install of lubuntu08:20
Noskcajhey08:20
Vivekanandaalso I holstein helped me out earlier quite a bit08:20
NoskcajVivekananda, i can't help then. i'm on xubuntu, and only because my drivers are f***ed in ubuntu08:21
Vivekanandajust asking the same thing again for another opinion .08:21
VivekanandaI am going to install xubuntu as a back up08:21
Vivekanandabut I dont think the drivers change08:21
Noskcajok, not much will change though08:21
Noskcajthey don't08:21
Vivekanandagone ?08:21
bennypr0fanehello, how can I find out, which version of a printer driver I am using?16:11
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grinweepermy usb mouse keeps malfuncitioning, insufficient resources to replace17:21
grinweeperin a hard to describe vital but unnecessary simulation17:21
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cerebrateuh17:28
cerebrateusing my mouse makes trouble when i give it the command to go left or right; it stops midway and doesn't move any farther in a fps simulation17:29
cerebratehow do i access a documentation from synaptic package manager18:25
cerebratei tried man, unsatisfactory18:25
phillwcerebrate: different documention uses different access. Which are you having a problem with?18:29
cerebratescribus' docs nonfree18:29
phillwcerebrate: have you looked at http://wiki.scribus.net/canvas/Debian18:31
cerebratey thank u18:32
phillwthat has how to install onto ubuntu systems. (Debian stuff will almost always work with ubuntu).18:32
cerebratei already have it installed through synaptic n i got some docs for it too18:32
cerebratebut i dont know where it put the docs and only know how to search the system with the regular cli commands18:33
phillwI'm not familiar with the application, hopefully that site will give you the information you need.18:33
phillwThere are several topics on the left of that page, e.g. http://wiki.scribus.net/canvas/Debian18:35
phillwhttp://wiki.scribus.net/canvas/Category:HOWTO18:35
phillwcerebrate: ^^18:36
phillwThe application itself should have a 'help' tab that can access any help files that you have downloaded.18:37
phillwcerebrate: for more general assistance, even when using lubuntu you can use such channels as #ubuntu-beginners, just do let them know that you are using lubuntu and also are not using a lubuntu specific application so you need 'general' help.18:40
cerebrateaye, i get you18:44
phillwthere's more of them and some may have used the application you are seeking answers on. There is also #ubuntu which is a lot busier, but also a good area to ask on.18:45
JanCcerebrate: usually documentation (that is not part of the man or info databases) is installed in /usr/share/doc/<packagename>/19:38
cerebratey thank u20:05
CHIexHello, I am new to linux. Is Lubuntu better for old computers that Xubuntu?20:59
zleapwell lubuntu uses lxde where as xubuntu uses xfce both are aimed at low power systems21:01
zleapwhat is your system spec21:01
zleapCHIex, is that helpful ?21:03
CHIex1000 MHZ AMD  barton, 1,5  GB RAM .. its for my old comp to download podcasts, like a server21:04
CHIexwhats the difference between XFCE AND LXDE?21:04
CHIexwhich is better for computer like mine and for a begginer to Linux?21:06
CHIexwhich is more stable and has more options to set up?21:07
cerebratesalut21:08
cerebrateje ne parle pas francais mais une peu21:08
cerebrateyou mean in english 1.5 g ram yes21:08
cerebrateno?21:08
cerebratehonh honh honh :D21:08
cerebratei suggest lubuntu but i haven't tried xubuntu21:09
cerebrateif you have gui habits and preferences21:09
cerebratei dont know really21:09
cerebratejust a suggestion mon ami21:09
CHIexwhat do you mean by GUI?21:10
cerebrategraphics-user interface21:10
cerebratei dont know anything about using xubuntu practically21:11
cerebratebut i chose lubuntu for the lxde21:11
cerebrateand the ease of use21:11
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