[00:41] <seta> hi, ive got a ATI HD 5770 and ubuntu 13.04, trying to install the driver results in this: http://pastie.org/6319635 any ideas?
[00:43] <vivid> seta: build-essential and linux-headers-3.8.0-7-generic
[00:43] <seta> both installed and current version
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[13:06] <penguin42> ooooh LibreOffice 4.0.0-beta packages
[13:06] <penguin42> let those install while I get breakfast
[14:19] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[16:16] <mmmbud> hey
[16:16] <mmmbud> can anyone help me
[16:16] <penguin42> only if you ask your question
[16:16] <mmmbud> all youtubw videos are tinted blue
[16:18] <mmmbud> is there a way to fix flash?
[16:18] <BluesKaj> mmmbud, then you probly need a flash update/upgrade or your browser flashplugin is misbehaving
[16:19] <mmmbud> can i just reinstall from the upgrade centre
[16:19] <IdleOne> or use youtube.com/html5
[16:19] <mmmbud> ile just try
[16:21] <mmmbud> still blue on youtube.com/html5
[16:22] <BluesKaj> which browser ?
[16:22] <mmmbud> opera
[16:22] <mmmbud> sec iletry ff
[16:23] <BluesKaj> hmm , try firefox or even rekonq
[16:24] <mmmbud> oon rekoq?
[16:24]  * penguin42 has a feeling this may be a graphics driver issue?
[16:24] <mmmbud> oooh*
[16:24] <mmmbud> im about to get a new gpu
[16:25] <BluesKaj> penguin42, he has the 310.32 driver on a nvidia 8400GS , which works fine here
[16:25] <BluesKaj> I have the same setup , except I'm on KDE
[16:26] <mmmbud> im not up for a reinstall
[16:26] <mmmbud> everything else is working better than ever
[16:27] <BluesKaj> I still think the flashplugin on opera isn't working properly , try a differnt browser on youtube ...it can't be that difficult
[16:38] <mmmbud> it works
[16:38] <mmmbud> thanks
[16:38] <BluesKaj> uhm, ok , what works , the new browser?
[16:44] <mmmbud> reinstalled flash
[16:45] <mmmbud> i have a noob question
[16:45] <mmmbud> is there a correct way to learn how to  use the terminal better
[16:48] <penguin42> just play
[16:49] <penguin42> learn a few commands at a time, solve problems, mess around
[16:50] <BluesKaj> mmmbud, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[16:57] <jtaylor> does the startup disk creator work from quantal to create raring disk?
[16:58] <jtaylor> mine just crashed during bootloader installation and the disk does not work :/
[16:58] <penguin42> jtaylor: Should do I would have thought - not tried it - but you should be able to dd a quantal image straight onto a thumb drive?
[16:58] <jtaylor> I'll try that next
[16:58] <jtaylor> first another try with the creator
[17:05] <jtaylor> crashed again :(
[17:06] <jbicha> jtaylor: honestly I've had trouble using quantal usb-creator to create quantal disks too
[17:32] <jtaylor> well dd worked
[17:32] <jtaylor> but the installatino did not
[17:32] <jtaylor> jsut sits there doing nothig when pressing next
[17:32] <jtaylor> I miss the alternate installer were you actually got error messages without having to guess where the hell the logfile is
[17:36] <penguin42>  /v/l/installer isn't it?
[17:36] <jtaylor> ?
[17:36] <jtaylor> oh
[17:36] <jtaylor> did't see anything there
[17:37] <jtaylor> at least not anything that was modified
[17:37] <jtaylor> hm I wonder if I can dd one of my chroots onto the partition
[17:37] <jtaylor> would that work?
[17:37] <jtaylor> hm probably not
[17:37] <BluesKaj> any installs that are usb releated seem have a lot of problems that the livecd doesn't have
[17:38] <penguin42> jtaylor: You can generally kick chroots into working if you kick hard enough
[17:38] <penguin42> jtaylor: But it's never easy
[17:38] <jtaylor> BluesKaj: who uses cds nowadays?
[17:38] <BluesKaj> ppl who know they're rekiable
[17:38] <penguin42> heck know, they never work for me, I always use usb
[17:38] <penguin42> no!
[17:38] <BluesKaj> reliable , not like my typing skills :)
[17:39] <penguin42> jtaylor: How is it failing for you?
[17:39] <jtaylor> haven't used cds in years
[17:39] <jtaylor> penguin42: when I click next on the first screen it just does nothing
[17:39] <jtaylor> no io traffic not network traffic no cpu
[17:39] <penguin42> I think I've heard others say the same
[17:40] <jtaylor> I had that in the past when my externals where plugged in
[17:40] <jtaylor> but unplugging them did not help this tiem
[17:41] <BluesKaj> jtaylor, do you like wearing hair shirts because they're fashionable too ? I mean usb for installing an OS seems really problematic these days
[17:41] <jtaylor> I've been doing years
[17:41] <jtaylor> never had an issue
[17:42] <jtaylor> pretty much since my mainboard supported it, which is probably ~10 years ago?
[17:42] <penguin42> BluesKaj: Not been a problem for me
[17:42] <BluesKaj> then  the usb creator is at fault
[17:43] <penguin42> jtaylor: OK, so if it's hanging then hmm - any dmesg junk?
[17:43] <jtaylor> didn't use the creator :P
[17:43] <jtaylor> nothing in dmesg
[17:44] <BluesKaj> my pc is 6 yrs old , but i don't have usb boot in the bios available as an option
[17:44] <BluesKaj> well 5 yrs old I gues
[17:45] <penguin42> jtaylor: I don't think this is installation media that is your problem
[17:45] <jtaylor> me neither
[17:46] <penguin42> jtaylor: sounds like ubiquity
[17:53] <BluesKaj> ubiquity had a problem on my cd install as well , ..I had to install 12.10 then do-release-upgrade -d in order to get 13,.04 on this partition
[17:57] <BluesKaj> there is a bug in launchpad describing ubiquity stalling and freezing at HW recognition
[18:28] <mandoguit>  dolphin > find > more options     totally greyed out and doesn't seem to be any way, afaics, to toggle any of the options on.   anyone confirm this at their end?  Kernel: 3.8.0-7-generic x86_64 (64 bit)  Desktop: KDE 4.10.00 Distro: Ubuntu Raring Ringtail
[18:32]  * penguin42 looks
[18:33] <penguin42> mandoguit: Same here
[18:35] <mandoguit> penguin42:   thank you very much for the confirmation...  much appreciated. :)
[18:36] <penguin42> mandoguit: File a bug at kde.org
[18:38] <relapse> How solid is 13.04? Worth installing now, or wait until release?
[18:40] <BluesKaj> solid here , relapse
[18:43] <ironhalik>  same here
[18:48] <relapse> How is the transition from beta to release?
[18:49] <relapse> Like, just apt-get dist-upgrade when release comes out?
[18:49] <relapse> Or do you have to reinstall
[18:49] <relapse> BluesKaj:
[18:49] <yofel> !final
[18:50] <relapse> Cool
[18:50] <relapse> So beta updates to release seamlessly
[18:50] <relapse> I just remember when Windows RC's would come out
[18:50] <relapse> you have to whipe at release
[18:50] <relapse> or after 180 days
[18:50] <relapse> or some nonsense
[18:52] <BluesKaj> do-release-upgrade -d , if you want to upgrade fromn 12.10 to 13.04 beta
[18:52] <BluesKaj> sudo , of course
[18:52] <relapse> yea
[18:53] <relapse> Are there any significant changes in xubuntu1304?
[20:52] <Bauer> guys, on 13.04 every time I do apt-get upgrade, the final output lines I get are:
[20:52] <Bauer> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.8.0-6-generic
[20:52] <Bauer> modprobe: ../tools/modprobe.c:550: print_action: Assertion `kmod_module_get_initstate(m) == KMOD_MODULE_BUILTIN' failed.
[20:52] <Bauer> Aborted (core dumped)
[20:52] <Bauer> what does this mean?
[20:53] <penguin42> it's a program fault - shouldn't happen
[20:53] <Bauer> what can we do about it then?
[20:53] <penguin42> Bauer: specifically the modprobe program expected something to have a particular value and it didn't so it decided to fail rather than carry on
[20:54] <penguin42> have you checked launchpad to see if anyone else has the problem?  I've not seen that one before
[21:03] <Bauer> penguin42, I am unsure how to use launchpad in that regard... it gives a package search, not bugs...
[21:05] <Bauer> penguin42, in here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring I can only search package, not parts of error messages and bugs..
[21:07] <penguin42> Google :-)
[21:08] <yeats> Bauer: launchpad search is not awesome.  I usually use 'site:launchpad.net' on google
[21:08] <penguin42> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kmod/+bug/1073062
[21:08] <yeats> or site:bugs.launchpad.net
[21:09] <penguin42> Bauer: Does the workaround in comment #2 work for you?
[21:11] <Bauer> penguin42, I would have to reboot to test it
[21:11] <penguin42> Bauer: Sounds worth a try
[21:12] <penguin42> Bauer: Please tell us either way if it works
[21:12] <Bauer> ok, brb rebooting then
[21:17] <Bauer> penguin42, I am back but I cant tell if it helped, until I get something to install in apt-get upgrade
[21:17] <Bauer> because this error only showed during upgrades
[21:17] <penguin42> ok
[21:18] <Bauer> but still no fix to the package conflict preventing the creation of everpad package for RR :(
[21:54] <Kurdistan> How is 13.04 compare to 12.10 when it comes to Unity-performance (dash, launcher, HUD etc)? How is the overal boot-time/shutdown compare to 12.10?
[21:54] <Kurdistan> The desktop effect are they smoother then before?