[00:07] <darkxst> ricotz, oops, I had already done it, but wasnt around last night
[00:10] <ricotz> darkxst, i see, i hope you didnt do e-d-s too?
[00:13] <darkxst> ricotz, no
[00:14] <ricotz> ah, then you looked at folks 0.9.0?
[00:14] <darkxst> ricotz, I used your e-d-s to finish it off this morning
[00:15] <darkxst> must have just missed you ealier
[00:21] <ricotz> ok :\
[00:22] <ricotz> i looked at empathy, but it seems libaccounts-glib.so.0 is broken
[00:30] <darkxst> damn
[00:32] <ricotz> i think i got it wrong, just a linker problem
[01:39] <darkxst> oh, wow, just realised how long I have been using Linux
[01:39] <darkxst> would be about 16 years, since I first got a slackware CD from somewhere and installed it on my computer
[03:25] <darkxst> jbicha, Finally got around to making a wiki page, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimLunn/DeveloperApplication
[03:25] <darkxst> can you add an endorsement :)
[07:01] <britt> hey is anyone else using the fglrx drivers
[07:01] <britt> I am having an issue where the gnome-shell activities window displays solid black background when I have the file manager handle the desktop
[07:02] <britt> the only way for the activities view to show the background is to turn desktop file manager handling
[07:02] <britt> this is in raring btw
[13:08] <ricotz> jbicha, hi
[13:12] <ricotz> jbicha, could you upload this http://paste.debian.net/plain/237380
[13:25] <ricotz> jbicha, please take this into account when updating to 3.7.90 https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3-staging/+sourcepub/2996246/+listing-archive-extra
[13:49] <jbicha> ricotz: oh is that the proper fix for the empathy build problem?
[13:49] <ricotz> jbicha, it is a proper fix for everything using libaccount-plugin ;)
[13:50] <ricotz> the empathy problem is an upstream problem
[13:50] <jbicha> ricotz: so we still need your linker patch?
[13:50] <ricotz> yes, it is in the empathy package
[13:51] <ricotz> the libaccount-plugin things is kind of needed for g-c-c, as you see
[13:54] <jbicha> ricotz: unless it's critical, I don't think I can sponsor it as I think the fix needs to be proposed against
[13:54] <jbicha> lp:gnome-control-center-signon
[13:55] <ricotz> jbicha, i see
[13:55] <jbicha> oh and I don't have upload rights to the package itself either
[13:55] <jbicha> http://people.canonical.com/~stgraber/package_sets/raring/ubuntu-desktop
[13:56] <ricotz> jbicha, do you know if there were/are plans to upstream this panel, while empathy would benefit from it?
[13:56] <ricotz> although not sure if vala code would be accepted
[13:58] <jbicha> ricotz: I'm sure the gnome-control-center devs are not at all interested in supporting external panels if that's what you're asking ;)
[13:59] <ricotz> what i am saying it the online-accounts panel is pretty useless, and empathy upstream support UOA, so there were no upstream attempts for the UOA panel
[13:59] <ricotz> (as far you know)
[14:06] <jbicha> I'm not sure Canonical wants that code to be maintained on git.gnome.org, but anyway you're welcome to try
[14:07] <jbicha> I guess you mean moving it into the empathy source?
[14:13] <jbicha> ricotz: I filed bug 1132119
[14:13] <ubot5> bug 1132119 in cogl (Ubuntu) "Upgrade to cogl 1.13.4" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1132119
[14:17] <ricotz> jbicha, no, i mean moving it to g-c-c like i didnt with the last upload
[14:17] <ricotz> jbicha, ah nice
[14:18] <jbicha> the odds of the g-c-c developers accepting that patch are very low
[14:19] <jbicha> even if it was in C .... they do not support UOA
[14:21] <ricotz> ok, either way, i wanted the functionality back, it was kind of the drawback without it
[15:03] <jbicha> ricotz: do you know whether we're going to want http://git.gnome.org/browse/clutter/commit/?id=4b92d656 for raring?
[15:06] <ricotz> jbicha, i guess, yes
[15:07] <ricotz> otherwise we need to ship clutter in the ppa too
[15:08] <ricotz> does it break things already?
[15:09] <jbicha> I mean for raring directly, and no I haven't seen the problem yet but I don't tweak my fonts either
[15:10] <jbicha> I wasn't planning on uploading the new clutter for raring unless there was a good reason
[15:11] <ricotz> jbicha, ah, i didnt look at the clutter debdiff in the bug
[15:12] <ricotz> i thought you want to revert it for some reason
[15:12] <ricotz> no idea if there is going to be another 1.12.x bug fix release
[15:13] <jbicha> it wasn't backported to the 1.12 branch, not sure if that was an oversight
[15:14] <jbicha> normal distros won't ship the new cogl with the old clutter and gnome-shell anyway; we're just "special"
[15:14] <ricotz> i guess there wasnt much backported anyway, but i think i isnt the best to hold back the new clutter
[15:17] <jbicha> ok can you quantify the benefits?
[15:18] <ricotz> sorry, no
[15:21] <jbicha> I'm thinking it's slightly safer to just stick with the current clutter
[16:02] <ricotz> libgdata snapshot and gnome-documents pushed
[16:19] <ricotz> gnome-contacts pushed
[17:27] <jbicha> ricotz: why did you merge the empathy plugins and can we undo that?
[17:53] <jbicha> never mind
[18:25] <ricotz> btw mutter/rules contain a typo and we really want to have symbols file here again
[21:05] <darkxst> jbicha, gdm http://pastebin.com/FH9aiqdw
[21:05] <jbicha> darkxst: thanks, unfortunately ppa uploads aren't working for me right now :(
[21:08] <darkxst> oh
[21:08] <darkxst> the gdm transition is a mess right now ;(
[21:09] <jbicha> which transition?
[21:10] <darkxst> after login, you get blue-blinds background, then a white screen, then gnome-shell animates in
[21:12] <darkxst> although the white screen presumably comes from gnome-shell
[21:17] <darkxst> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=694321
[21:17] <ubot5> Gnome bug 694321 in general "gray background shows after login before the shell starts up" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]
[22:21] <jbicha> darkxst: are you able to upload to your ppa?
[22:26] <darkxst> jbicha, no apparently not, packages seem to be uploading into a black hole :)
[22:38] <darkxst> jbicha, actually did work, but took a long time
[23:29] <darkxst> baobab http://pastebin.com/KBwTXLvQ
[23:42] <darkxst> gjs pastebin.com/pDjcDY4t