[02:00] <ali1234> !info nano
[08:19] <MartijnVdS> Good morning everyone!
[09:03] <dwatkins> hiya MartijnVdS
[09:47] <mungbean> argh its cold out there
[09:47] <mungbean> planning on staying in for rest of day
[09:59] <redtape-renegade> Morning .. popey that guy you hate actually put Ubuntu on his Nexus .. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTmYCswJ0QA
[09:59] <redtape-renegade> MartijnVdS: Hello ..
[10:09] <redtape-renegade> There is too many people running on the promenade .. they're making me feel fat :(
[10:09]  * MartijnVdS just ran 10km
[10:10] <MartijnVdS> training for next week's 20km run :)
[10:10] <redtape-renegade> Crumbs, how long did that take you ?
[10:11] <brobostigon> good morning everyone,
[10:12] <redtape-renegade> morning..
[10:12] <redtape-renegade> good being optional ...
[10:14] <MartijnVdS> redtape-renegade: a little under an hour
[10:14]  * redtape-renegade got a dictaphone in the mail today .. good for recording farts and putting them as ringtones on his phone ... :D
[10:14] <redtape-renegade> MartijnVdS: I can't get up and dressed in an hour !!
[10:15] <MartijnVdS> ಠ_ಠ
[10:15] <redtape-renegade> ?
[10:15] <MartijnVdS> recording ringtones like that..
[10:15] <redtape-renegade> I couldn't see 'that' comment .. it's in chinese ?
[10:16] <MartijnVdS> oh it's this: http://lookofdisapproval.info/
[10:16] <redtape-renegade> BTW The UK lost it's tripleA rating , financially today ..
[10:17] <redtape-renegade> i get it thanx, dad .
[10:21] <redtape-renegade> when do I get my allowance ??
[10:22]  * redtape-renegade makes coffee ...
[10:27]  * redtape-renegade like the Dutch teams translation logo https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-nl
[10:44] <AlanBell> morning all
[10:45] <AlanBell> is "SIMS 3" on steam for linux?
[10:53] <MartijnVdS> I don't think so
[11:00] <mungbean> wow redtape-renegade that guys voice on the video is rather....
[11:00] <redtape-renegade> SIMS 3 .. spawn of the devil  .. Surely not AlanBell
[11:01] <redtape-renegade> mungbean: Joe or Chris ???/
[11:01] <mungbean> the annoying guy
[11:01] <redtape-renegade> the younger one ?
[11:01] <mungbean> yeah
[11:01] <mungbean> i could only handle 30 seconds of him
[11:01] <redtape-renegade> he does a daily vlog .. like everyday .. he's an addict !]
[11:01] <mungbean> very american
[11:02] <redtape-renegade> ....  perhaps not for British peope, then.
[11:02] <redtape-renegade> have you been there ?
[11:02] <mungbean> to the US?
[11:02] <redtape-renegade> mm yeah ?
[11:02] <mungbean> yes. i do my best hugh grant impression when in NY
[11:02] <AlanBell> seems like no sims 3 on steam
[11:02] <mungbean> no sims 3 on linux full stop
[11:02] <redtape-renegade> mungbean: How much did she cost ?
[11:03] <mungbean> not that type :P
[11:03] <redtape-renegade> hehe .. :)
[11:03] <mungbean> i haven't been back since they started collecting fingerprints
[11:03] <mungbean> america is an offence to my freedoms
[11:03] <redtape-renegade> aaahh .. a privateer.
[11:03] <mungbean> not so much, but the US treatment offends me
[11:04] <redtape-renegade> .. just go through Canada :)
[11:04] <mungbean> or stay in canada
[11:04] <redtape-renegade> the border is [pretty slackware.
[11:04] <redtape-renegade> **slack.
[11:04]  * redtape-renegade cleans his specks ...
[11:05] <redtape-renegade> Anybody want to hangout here ??
[11:06] <redtape-renegade> Anybody want to hangout here ??
[11:07] <redtape-renegade> Anybody want to hangout here ???
[11:09]  * redtape-renegade makes crumpets ...
[11:13]  * redtape-renegade scans the horizon for mischievous birds ..  seems a bit too quiet ..
[11:14]  * mungbean goes back to bed
[11:15] <SuperEngineer> AlanBell: message for you on -steam ;)
[11:15]  * AlanBell is on -steam ;)
[11:22] <redtape-renegade> Anybody want to hangout here ????
[11:25] <ikonia> directhex: ping
[11:41] <redtape-renegade> If I have to hear Skyfall theme-tune one more time , I thnk *I'm* going to crumble !!
[12:01] <MartijnVdS> redtape-renegade: it's sung by a Dell, I heard...
[12:34] <directhex> ikonia, yo yo yo sup
[12:38] <ikonia> directhex: not too much, I may have it sorted in my head now, may nudge later after testing
[12:56] <redtape-renegade> Anybody want to hangout here ?????
[13:05] <mungbean> if you upload copyrighted content to youtube, do u share in ad revenue, or you get zero?
[13:09] <redtape-renegade> prob. not .. i never got paid by youtu.be     ever.
[13:10] <mungbean> i think they only pay you when your income exceeds a certain amount e.g. £59
[13:10] <mungbean> £50
[13:11] <redtape-renegade> i'm not expecting a cent...
[13:11] <redtape-renegade> what do you subscribe to ??
[13:12] <mungbean> did you turn on monetization?
[13:12] <redtape-renegade> no
[13:13] <redtape-renegade> what do you subscribe to ??
[13:13] <mungbean> i don't really subscribe to anything
[13:14] <directhex> mungbean, you get zero.
[13:14] <redtape-renegade> well, i get videos the hour they are released .. thats how i use the internet .. the world come to me .. not the other way around.
[13:14] <mungbean> thanks directhex
[13:15] <mungbean> redtape-renegade: new != best
[13:15] <redtape-renegade> otherwise your just a random viewer .. it's a community you know !
[13:15] <mungbean> no its not
[13:15] <redtape-renegade> it is to me.
[13:15] <mungbean> its a video streaming site where hordes of kids put retarded comments on videos
[13:16] <redtape-renegade> i talk to jordan keyes directly.
[13:16] <mungbean> who is he
[13:16] <redtape-renegade> exactly, you dont know !
[13:16] <mungbean> and my life is no worse
[13:17] <redtape-renegade> http://www.youtube.com/user/twildottv
[13:17] <redtape-renegade> how the heck do you know that ?
[13:17] <redtape-renegade> no bettr anyway ..
[13:21] <redtape-renegade> mungbean: What communities *are* you an active member of ?
[13:23] <redtape-renegade> mungbean: You are watching the video aren't you ??
[13:31] <mungbean> huh?
[13:31] <mungbean> whic video?
[14:41] <mfraz74> Went to the RISC OS south west show this morning and bought a real time clock for my Pi
[14:47] <dwatkins> mfraz74: neat, I'm planning on making a radio receiver for my Arduino to get the time from the MSF signal.
[15:09] <A5c11Char5et> Hi, quick question if I may guys..
[15:09] <A5c11Char5et> I'm doing some web development
[15:09] <penguin42> ask !
[15:10] <A5c11Char5et> Should I be using XHTML or HTML5 nowadays ?
[15:10] <A5c11Char5et> I heard HTML5 compatibility isn't great still
[15:27] <dwatkins> Who is your audience, A5c11Char5et?
[15:27] <A5c11Char5et> Technical blogs, forum
[15:27] <A5c11Char5et> Stuff like that
[15:29] <dwatkins> I suspect most people will have html5-compatible browsers, not sure. If you write your HTML with that in mind, it should be possible to keep everyone happy, I imagine.
[15:29] <dwatkins> (within reason, you probably don't need to worry too much about formatting for Netscape 2.0)
[15:30] <dwatkins> html dog has some good tutorials: http://www.htmldog.com/guides/
[15:32] <penguin42> anyone ever bought a pogoplug/goflex net
[15:35] <A5c11Char5et> dwatkins, this site looks awesome. Thanks :)
[15:35] <dwatkins> A5c11Char5et: welcome :)
[15:35] <dwatkins> penguin42: not me, just a Raspberry Pi and a Synology NAS
[15:37] <penguin42> dwatkins: I got this one open-box in Curry's bargain bin (#19) but they have a registration scheme/setup system and the problem is it's already been registered
[15:37] <penguin42> ah, there's a note in the support pages about how to do that
[15:38] <dwatkins> ah good, penguin42 - would have been a bit mean of them not to allow 2nd hand re-registering
[15:38] <penguin42> nod
[15:39] <penguin42> dwatkins: You're supposed to be able to install other Linux's on them - the trick though is you need to register and tick a box that enables ssh access
[15:40] <dwatkins> sounds potentially dangerous, but if it's reasonably automated that's ok - does it have a serial/bluetooth external connection, penguin42?
[15:41] <penguin42> dwatkins: No, it's got USB, ether, and two SATA
[15:41] <penguin42> ooh, interesting - it seems to have it's ssh port open....
[15:41] <dwatkins> perhaps the tick box is just to allow you to reset the password
[15:42] <penguin42> dwatkins: Yeh maybe
[15:48]  * penguin42 sends them a reset mail
[15:50] <penguin42> dwatkins: I suspect there's a serial port inside somewhere
[15:55] <dwatkins> yeah, my linksys router has one, although I'd need to do some voltage conversion stuff to use it with an RS232
[15:57] <MartijnVdS> What are you hacking? :)
[15:57] <penguin42> MartijnVdS: Seagate GoFlex Net
[15:58]  * MartijnVdS opened up a TP-Link WA850RE
[15:58] <MartijnVdS> as in.. opened up and broke the case :|
[15:58] <MartijnVdS> now I have a PCB that has 230V in.. and wifi out
[15:59] <MartijnVdS> I'm considering attaching a (new) lead, measuring the voltage of the DC it generates, then applying *that* to the DC part of the board
[15:59] <MartijnVdS> it's still dangerousish
[16:00] <dwatkins> might be worth getting a project box to house it in, too ;)
[16:00] <MartijnVdS> dwatkins: yes, I have those :)
[16:00] <dwatkins> ah good
[16:00] <MartijnVdS> it has 10V caps, so the DC part must be <10V ;)
[16:00] <MartijnVdS> but I don't know if it's 5 or 3.3
[16:01] <dwatkins> what does ethernet use?
[16:02] <MartijnVdS> dwatkins: -1V, -0.5V, +0.5V, +1V (-2.5V, +2.5V for 10mbit)
[16:03] <dwatkins> oh wow ok
[16:03] <MartijnVdS> but the ethernet port has its own "chip"/"box"
[16:03] <penguin42> wow, they've sorted it - all done
[16:05] <penguin42> it's odd having a system where you set your ssh password to it on an external website!
[16:06] <penguin42> not bad for under #20 :-)
[16:07]  * MartijnVdS shakes his fist in the general direction of Canon
[16:26] <isleofmandan> Hello. Can anyone cofirm that 12.04 and Samba is broken? Trying to build my first ever Ubuntu Server, and samba crashes all the time. Bug 1016895 implies it's not my fault!
[16:31]  * penguin42 looks
[16:32] <penguin42> isleofmandan: Are you using a 12.04.2 install media?
[16:33] <isleofmandan> I think so. I downloaded from ubuntu.com on Thursday night
[16:33] <isleofmandan> I also did apt-get update/upgrade
[16:33] <penguin42> isleofmandan: OK, so yes it looks like it's a known broken, but only in the new version that was released a couple of weeks ago; if you get a 12.04.1 install image it should work I think
[16:34] <isleofmandan> OK. I'm building a NAS for home use. Do you think it's worth trying 12.10, or should I stick to the LTS?
[16:35] <penguin42> isleofmandan: I think if you just want it to sit there and store data for you LTS is probably a better bet
[16:36] <isleofmandan> Yes. Except today! I've spent 6 hours fiddling with smb.conf before finally realising i was doing nothing wrong!
[16:36] <penguin42> isleofmandan: Haha yes, sorry about that
[16:36] <isleofmandan> Still, I learned a lot about log files, and the tail command.
[16:36] <isleofmandan> :)
[16:36] <penguin42> I'd get a 12.04.1 image and try that
[16:37] <isleofmandan> Will an apt-get update/upgrade break that though?
[16:38] <penguin42> isleofmandan: Probably not (!)
[16:38] <penguin42> isleofmandan: My understanding is thatthe 12.04.1 gets a separate kernel update stream from 12.04.2 (that shares it with quantal) and that bug seems to say it's kernel dependent
[16:40] <isleofmandan> OK. Another question then... I have 3 hard drives. One for Ubuntu OS, the other two are configured in software Raid 1. It's taken *hours* to sync the two raid drives. If I wipe the single drive with the Ubuntu OS (not in the raid array) will I have to wait and re-sync again, or is the software raid info saved on the raid drives?   hope that makes sense(!)
[16:41] <penguin42> the RAID state is stored on the RAID
[16:41] <penguin42> how big are the drives?
[16:41] <isleofmandan> 2TB (each)
[16:41] <isleofmandan> 250 GB for the OS one
[16:41] <penguin42> right, so lets say they manage 100MB/s then to read the whole driver flat out would take 2000seconds if everything flew at full speed
[16:43] <dwatkins> just over half an hour
[16:43] <penguin42> nod, and 100MB/s is what a 7200RPM drive gets on a good day
[16:44] <isleofmandan> I think mdstat was reporting about 30MB/s at the time it was syncing
[16:44] <dwatkins> yeah, I assume the drives are internal, isleofmandan
[16:45] <isleofmandan> Yes, I've bought an HP Proliant microserver to replace a shop-bought NAS that is now full.  (300 GB seemed huge when I bough that. My desktop at that time had a 2.1 GB drive in it!)
[16:45] <isleofmandan> Thought I'd have a go at using Ubuntu to build my own server
[16:46] <isleofmandan> but this Samba bug has had me frustrated all day!
[16:46] <isleofmandan> Trying to work out what I was doing wrong...
[16:46] <isleofmandan> :)
[16:48] <isleofmandan> Where can I find 12.04.1 for download, it's not listed at releases.ubuntu.com
[16:49] <penguin42> hmm that's a good question
[16:49] <isleofmandan> It's almost like *someone* doesn't want my server project to be a success!
[16:49] <penguin42> http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04.1/
[16:50] <isleofmandan> ah. thanks
[17:06] <isleofmandan> .iso downloaded  :)   Off to play with it....  Thanks for all your help.
[17:07] <penguin42> good luck
[17:39] <celesteh> Do any of you have any experience with live streaming to ustream or any other similar service with ubuntu 12.04?
[17:42] <SuperEngineer> help - sister's firm offered her a choice between Kindle Fire & Nexus... I told her to request Nexus but asked what model
[17:43] <AlanBell> SuperEngineer: what is it for?
[17:43] <SuperEngineer> ..mail recieved stated her boss had aalready ordered the Nexus [all that was a week ago]
[17:44] <SuperEngineer> AlanBell: boss' rationale was "so that see could read/do emails when out of office"
[17:46] <SuperEngineer> ...she is now swearing blind that the machine is labeled Asus
[17:46] <AlanBell> SuperEngineer: nexus 7 is asus
[17:46] <SuperEngineer> quote: The back reads - in big letters - nexus and in smaller letters at the botton - ASUS
[17:47] <SuperEngineer> AlanBell: that solves that one then
[17:47] <AlanBell> this one says Asus at the bottom on the back too
[17:48] <SuperEngineer> ..no experience of it.. is it the same / similar/ totally different to the Samsung Galaxy / Nexus
[17:48] <AlanBell> it is a 7 inch android tablet
[17:50] <SuperEngineer> http://support.google.com/nexus/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=2667663&topic=2841129&ctx=topic
[17:57] <SuperEngineer> AlanBell: yep - all confirmed... she's got herself both a winner and a generous boss [but apparently won't consider a "purely for supportiung your employee use" one for me :(
[17:58] <bigcalm> Good afternoon chaps
[17:58] <SuperEngineer> AlanBell: [& thanks]
[18:07] <ali1234> hmm
[18:08] <ali1234> AlanBell: did you get ubuntu touch on SGS2 yet?
[18:08] <AlanBell> no, not had much tinkering time
[18:08] <AlanBell> need to back it up first
[18:08] <AlanBell> and I needed to find it and charge it up first
[18:24] <MsCourtney> Does anyone know how long it takes for a traffic citation to come in the mail?
[18:26] <bigcalm> o.O
[18:27] <bigcalm> Bit off topic for us to know the answer to that
[18:29] <MsCourtney> bigcalm: True, but I just asked in case someone knows as I badly need information on this
[18:30] <SuperEngineer> MsCourtney: a Ubuntu one can take 6 weeks to 3months [& still be current]... see how bought that back on-topic ;)
[18:31] <MsCourtney> SuperEngineer: This channel isn't always strictly on topic anyways
[18:37] <SuperEngineer> MsCourtney: did someone say "strictly" ooo - Matron!  [in an Ubuntu fashion of course] ;)
[18:40] <shauno> I actually have no idea.  but I have to ask, between using 'citation' (a very american term), and an afriNIC IP .. are you sure -uk are going to have the answer you're looking for ?
[18:40] <SuperEngineer> ...but the answer previous is still relevant - just because it hasn't arrived, don't think you got awaty with the offence
[18:40] <SuperEngineer> *away
[18:41] <SuperEngineer> in fact -bringing it strictly on topic - the digital camereas/traps can send immediately and I bet they are linux powered systems
[18:42] <MsCourtney> shauno: I'm in the UK in Surrey, ignore the IP
[18:42] <SuperEngineer> ...the image based traps can arrive - as said - anytime between 6 weeks and 3 months
[18:43] <shauno> fair enough, just tweaked at the word citation :)
[18:44] <MsCourtney> I was told that they would consider the accident report and I might get a citation for "Driving without due care and attention" if they find it necessary. So there is a possibility of not getting one. shauno I have American relatives.
[18:45] <SuperEngineer> shauno: [was beginning to wonder about that...]
[18:45] <AlanBell> hi girlygirl
[18:45] <AlanBell> another accident?
[18:45] <MsCourtney> AlanBell: ??
[18:47] <AlanBell> maritius must be terrible
[18:47] <AlanBell> roads in *
[18:48] <MsCourtney> Again, ignore the IP.
[18:50] <AlanBell> anyone got ubuntu touch installed yet?
[18:51] <shauno> I was only curious because we do tend to get wanderers from further afield.  I wonder if they get defaulted to -uk if they choose British English as a locale
[18:51] <MsCourtney> Ubuntu phone, or ubuntu desktop with a touchscreen?
[18:51]  * SuperEngineer getting annoyed by RhythmBox notification area "play" arrow simply opening rythmbox... I can do that myself, you know!
[19:10] <redtape-renegade> WowI was having a really bad day until I got the news that Rebecca was only 3 miles away .. :D   :: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/55128914/Lubuntu%20docs/Rebecca.png
[19:11] <AlanBell> you have been profiled
[19:12] <shauno> ... as 'mature' ;)
[19:13] <redtape-renegade> I was on Funny or Die website ...
[19:13] <ali1234> AlanBell: do you not use adblock+?
[19:14] <AlanBell> no
[19:14] <ali1234> lol, no wonder
[19:15] <redtape-renegade> http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/ed36fa1ab6/between-two-ferns-with-zach-galifianakis-steve-carell?rel=player&playlist=135161
[19:15] <redtape-renegade> I should but you know .. like I care ?
[19:20]  * SuperEngineer blesses & hugs builders AdBlock & NoScript
[19:22]  * SuperEngineer might even be pass some wonga their way now & again
[19:24] <SuperEngineer> *passing
[19:25] <SuperEngineer> ..why is that my brain works faster than my keyboard -doh!
[19:29] <redtape-renegade> because you dont have one of these .. http://www.keyboardco.com/keyboard_details.asp?PRODUCT=837
[19:31]  * penguin42 hits redtape-renegade with his Model M
[19:34] <SuperEngineer> redtape-renegade: nope - just looked - brain still too fsast
[19:34] <SuperEngineer> ;)
[19:46] <dwatkins> I suspect a folding keyboard wouldn't be the best typing experience, especially for me after using my archimedes-coloured Model M ;) http://imgur.com/u2RqAAe
[19:47] <penguin42> dwatkins: haha, nice
[19:50] <SuperEngineer> Dr Who time boys & girls
[19:53] <redtape-renegade> Screw the doctor .. it's always the same tat on TV.
[19:55] <dwatkins> SuperEngineer: on BBC1?
[19:56] <MartijnVdS> 3
[19:56] <MartijnVdS> it's a rerun
[19:56] <MartijnVdS> New episodes from March 30 I think
[19:56] <dwatkins> ah right, had me confused that the Radio Times website was lying to me, or showing me a different region ;)
[19:57] <dwatkins> it's back in April, iirc.
[19:57] <dwatkins> ooh, no - next Saturday :D
[19:57] <MartijnVdS> dwatkins: _next_ Saturday!?
[19:57] <MartijnVdS> dwatkins: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/doctorwho/articles/Date-Confirmed-for-the-Doctors-Return
[19:57] <MartijnVdS> dwatkins: that lists it as march _30_ not march _3_
[19:58] <dwatkins> oh sorry
[19:58] <dwatkins> I was all hopeful there, but got confused as to what month it is
[19:58] <dwatkins> sily February and its number of days being a multiple of seven.
[19:58] <dwatkins> *silly
[19:58] <MartijnVdS> except sometmes
[20:06] <dwatkins> indeed, I'm glad my birthday isn't on the 29th of February, I'd only be about eight years old.
[20:06] <redtape-renegade> OK Ok .. what is a sonic screwdriver ... Pleeeease ??
[20:06] <MartijnVdS> redtape-renegade: it's like a screwdriver. but sonic.
[20:08] <redtape-renegade> apparently its a probe !
[20:08] <MartijnVdS> http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MagicTool :)
[20:09] <redtape-renegade> opening..
[20:10] <MartijnVdS> ... and now he's trapped for life in tvtropes :)
[20:10] <MartijnVdS> At least it's not SCP - http://www.scp-wiki.net/
[20:11] <ali1234> i found that website randomly before it got famous
[20:11] <ali1234> i was like o_O
[20:11] <MartijnVdS> ali1234: tvtropes or scp?
[20:11] <ali1234> scp
[20:11] <ali1234> probably from tvtropes
[20:11] <dwatkins> I think I'll need a packed lunch if I'm going to go exploring on SCP.
[20:12] <dwatkins> TV Tropes is bad enough as a time-sink ;)
[20:12] <MartijnVdS> dwatkins: nah, it'll only come out the wrong end ;)
[20:12] <dwatkins> lol
[20:12] <redtape-renegade> Come on Ammie  .. get it together !
[20:12] <SuperEngineer> sorry dwatkins ... was watching telly... it's BBC3
[20:12] <redtape-renegade> http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/tv/bbc_three/watchlive
[20:16] <dwatkins> cheers SuperEngineer :) good episode, too
[20:16] <dwatkins> they seem to like making people wait.
[20:17] <redtape-renegade> never seen an episode in my life !!
[20:18] <redtape-renegade> come Aimee do it !
[20:18] <redtape-renegade> i wish she blow something else !
[20:19] <MartijnVdS> !coc
[20:19] <redtape-renegade> sorry.
[20:26] <redtape-renegade> Aime kicks butt !!!
[20:26] <MartijnVdS> amy*
[20:29] <SuperEngineer> luboto says... this is a Kindness - don't be alarmed
[20:30] <redtape-renegade> Awwwv !!
[20:32] <redtape-renegade> .. I dont like the shakey camera ,.. abit wonky ..
[20:33] <redtape-renegade> mmm the music has changed a lot ...
[20:34]  * SuperEngineer wants "don't be alarmed,  this is a Kindness" added to luboto3's vocabulary... so many uses!
[20:34] <dwatkins> SuperEngineer: is it followed by the user being dropped form the channel? ;)
[20:34] <SuperEngineer> ;)
[20:34] <jacobw> evening
[20:35] <SuperEngineer> dwatkins: one would assume so ;)
[20:35] <dwatkins> hiya jacobw
[20:35] <redtape-renegade> mm.. good show .. bit long for the message thou ...
[20:38] <dwatkins> "Don't press the wrong button on a lift" ?
[20:40] <SuperEngineer> dwatkins: "this is a Kindness - don't be be alrmed: you're ignored/kicked/banned"...oh yes! gotta be worth submitting
[20:41] <SuperEngineer> ..& who put the exctra "be" in there!
[20:52] <SuperEngineer> Got to go now -
[20:52] <SuperEngineer> early start tomorrow [travelling to Kentshire to see daughter :) and then on to hotel dor course Monday :(
[20:53] <SuperEngineer> ...but back home in time Ubuntu-UK podcast Wednesday ;)
[20:55]  * SuperEngineer wishes the podders all the best for 1st show of new season.
[20:58] <popey> Evening all.
[21:03]  * zleap dittos the good luck message :)
[22:05] <bigcalm> Morning popey
[22:06] <danfish> popey: I am now in a post Viglen age - it has died - a period of official mourning will follow
[22:09] <popey> ☹
[22:14] <danfish> popey: the ubuntu tablet/mobile stuff is spot on. My local NHS IT bods are very impressed. The SDK is on the intranet.
[22:14] <Azelphur> Geek 2013 = Epic. https://www.dropbox.com/s/qw5rx3ieygayxa7/2013-02-23%2011.28.41.jpg?m :D
[22:14] <popey> golly
[22:20] <danfish> the 'powers-that-be' were planning to equip the community services with iPads, but after sg
[22:20] <danfish> oops
[22:22] <danfish> but after projecting our benign spaceman's presentation, that's on hold (though not quotable!)
[22:23] <danfish> our desktop architecture is now OS agnostic
[22:27] <danfish> though we do need a number of terminal service licences
[22:28] <brobostigon> are there any terminal picture viewers around, that work over an ssh connection, inside gnome-terminal. ?
[22:29] <shauno> most likely you'd want to forward X so you can use something like xv on the remote machine, but using your local display
[22:30] <ali1234> ssh -X host
[22:30] <popey> brobostigon: http://pc-freak.net/blog/viewing-jpeggif-and-png-in-ascii-with-cacaview-on-gnu-linux-short-review-on-caca-utils-text-mode-graphics-utilities/
[22:30] <ali1234> eog image.png
[22:31] <danfish> brobostigon: have a look at gateone https://github.com/liftoff/GateOne
[22:31] <brobostigon> thank you popey and danfish
[22:39] <danfish> ho hum, pig's bum, time for bed