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InAndOutLand^without 300:00
k1lInAndOutLand: so you are sure the the .iso you did download is ok?00:00
InAndOutLandYes.00:00
InAndOutLand_1xchat kinda broke there00:01
InAndOutLand_1(xchat 200:02
k1lInAndOutLand_1: you need to test this usb on another pc or laptop to make sure that usb isnt the problem00:02
k1lso we can focus on that pc (if that is the problem)00:02
InAndOutLand_1I don't really have any other pcs to test on...00:02
kyza14yolo00:03
InAndOutLand_1What do I do in this case?00:04
InAndOutLand_1Any body?00:05
wiggmpkInAndOutLand_1: you could re-download the image, re-create the bootable USB... OR you can burn the image to a CD/DVD and boot it that way00:06
kkathmanGreetings I have an issue that after a recent update, my computer name is no longer accessible via other computers, however I can connect via the computer's IP address...is this a DNS issue? If so how do I fix that?00:06
wiggmpkkkathman: are all your computers local? connected to a router that supports DNS?00:07
kkathmanwiggmpk:  Yes all connected to the same router in fact, and wired (not wireless)00:07
wiggmpkkkathman: does the router have built-in DNS?00:08
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kkathmanwiggmpk:  That I am not sure of00:08
wiggmpkkkathman: did your local IP address change since the update?00:08
kkathmanwiggmpk:  Possibly, yes. I'm on Verizon Fios and we had an outage so its possible that the incoming PPoE IP changed00:09
wiggmpkkkathman: your "local" ip to the machine your trying to resolve by hostname00:09
InAndOutLand_1my computer does not habe a dvd drive for 12.10. What do I do?00:10
InAndOutLand_1^My00:10
kkathmanwiggmpk:  yes that's correct...local IP is 192.168.1.1400:10
Vivekanandahey everyone. Am on lubuntu but want to know if my graphics card are working.00:10
Vivekanandaglxinfo and glxgears gimme some outputs but I see "no proprietery drivers installed". How do i proceed to check and sort this issue ?00:11
wiggmpkkkathman: and your using DHCP?00:11
kkathmanwiggmpk: Yes I am...I have my admin panel up on the router if that helps things00:11
wiggmpkkkathman: are you trying to resolve the linux machine by hostname from other computers? or are you trying to resolve other computers by hostname FROM the linux machine?00:12
kkathmanwiggmpk:  The router identifies the hostname by the way00:12
kkathmanwiggmpk:  I am trying to connect via smb from my Mac . In the past I have been able to do this with no problems00:13
wiggmpkkkathman: is your MAC using the router as it's DNS to resolve the hostnames?00:14
kkathmanwiggmpk: I believe it would be yes, since it's connected to the same router00:15
wiggmpkkkathman: unless you specifically told it to, routers usually pass the ISP's DNS when using DHCP00:15
kkathmanwiggmpk:  I'm sure I didn't tell it to explicitly, yet the Mac seemed to find it ok00:16
wiggmpkkkathman: well im not a Mac guru, but you can try adding your router as a DNS server on your Mac00:17
kkathmanwiggmpk:  OK I00:17
kkathmanwiggmpk: OK I will try that.00:18
wiggmpkkkathman: on my network, I have reserved DHCP address's for my NAS, since I dont use a local DNS I had to add them to /etc/hosts (it should be relatively similar on a Mac)00:18
bencc1how can I use this key http://sysoev.ru/pgp.txt to be able to install from nginx repository?00:19
kkathmanwiggmpk:  So would I use the internal lan address of 192.168.1.1 as the DNS ?00:19
wiggmpkkkathman: but with DHCP, your IP can change when the lease expires00:19
wiggmpkkkathman: thats what I would try00:19
wiggmpkunless someone else has a better idea00:19
kkathmanwiggmpk:  Let me try that00:19
sinewalkerkkathman: wiggmpk: DNS lease can be set to not expire, if you know how to work your router... (what's it's model, I'll help look it up).  btw, joined late, what are you tring to achieve?00:20
wiggmpksinewalker: the ability to resolve by hostname and not IP (to access samba shares)00:21
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sinewalkersamba on the NAS...? okay.  NAS is on the router/gateway (192.168.1.1) or elsewhere?  What I've seen in this chat is your suggestion to put the IP in /etc/hosts which as you say is fine until the router expire's the NAS' IP lease.  What make/model is the router, we may be able to do something more dynamic... or just set the lease to not expire00:23
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wiggmpksinewalker: i was referencing my network.. I use DHCP reservation for my NAS00:23
sinewalkerokay yes that'll do.  what is kkathman's setup ? :)  I assume he's trying to connect to his NAS which has some IP 192.168.1.x  (but not .1 as that's the router)?00:25
wiggmpksinewalker: kkathman said the router recognizes the hostname of the machine. He has a Mac and is trying to access Samba shares FROM the Mac, to (im assuming) a linux box00:25
sinewalkeroic.  thinking00:25
wiggmpksinewalker: i suggested adding the router's IP as a DNS server on his Mac00:26
tgm4883wiggmpk, does it work via IP?00:26
sinewalkerwiggmpk: yes, if the router has a DNS feature. most do not though :(00:26
ntzrmtthihu777looking to install precise x64 on my dell inspirone one2205, but the documentation seems to be missing parts.00:26
nankurahey i was wondering, i know we have wine and steam native to linux now, but has it ever been attempted to get Bootcamp from mac working on linux, essentially mac is similiar to linux, and there bootcamp, is well known for running windows programs00:27
wiggmpktgm4883: it's kkathman with the issue, and last I read, kkathman said yes.. but it used to resolve by hostname prior to an update00:27
iternankura: wat00:28
wiggmpknankura: that is not what bootcamp does00:28
SourceSlayerHeyo, I'm having a little issue...00:28
sinewalkerkkathman: are you still there?00:28
wiggmpknankura: bootcamp allows you to install the Windows OS on an Intel based Mac00:28
tgm4883wiggmpk, kkathman I'm assuming that FQDN work then as well?00:28
chris062689Is there an Ubuntu Phone support channel yet?00:28
SourceSlayerWhen I type "g++ hello\ world.cpp" I get: hello world.cpp:1:35: fatal error: QtCore/QCoreApplication: No such file or directory00:28
SourceSlayerCan anyone help me?00:28
nankuraoh ok00:28
nankuraso essentially vmware does the same thing?00:29
wiggmpknankura: no00:29
nankurathe only problem ive noticed with vmware/virtualbox is 3D support, gmaing on vmware/virtualbox isnt a viable option it seems00:29
wiggmpknankura: bootcamp doesnt virtualize anything..00:29
nankuraah ok00:29
nankurai see i see00:29
SourceSlayernankura: VMWAre is used to emulate running on Operating System00:29
wiggmpknankura: thats because its virtual.. its not direct access to the hardware00:29
SourceSlayerBootcamp is used to run an OS along another00:29
nankurayea00:29
nankuraah00:29
sinewalkernankura: Bootcamp is an operating system loader.  if you are thinking to use Bootcamp on a linux machine to dual-boot windows, no need, Linux has GRUB to do the same.00:29
nankuraalright, thanks for the info00:30
wiggmpktgm4883: that I do not know.. kkathman would have to answer that00:30
tgm4883wiggmpk, ok, I've got to go (home time), but it sounds like the computer isn't doing NETBIOS.00:31
wiggmpktgm4883: would that be the machine trying to resolve the hostname or the machine with the hostname that its trying to resolve?00:32
sinewalkernunkura: google  'linux grub windows dual-boot how-to'00:32
sinewalkerwhoops00:32
tgm4883wiggmpk, I have a similar issue with my router when I reboot it00:32
tgm4883wiggmpk, the machines trying to resolve the name, although I suppose the linux machine would need to register with netbios00:33
tgm4883wiggmpk, it's been awhile since I've messed with that though . Good luck00:34
wiggmpktgm4883: i hear ya.. thanks00:34
kc_Hello! i just installed 12.04 on my MacBook Pro dual boot with refit. ii tried to boot to ubuntu by clicking the "tux" icon on refit then the screen goes white with tux in th middlke and freeze there. anyone know what i can do?00:37
bencc1how can I find nginx's pgp key? I found somewhere 7BD9BF62. how can I be sure it's correct?00:38
bombardMaximum number of clients reachederr:winediag:x11drv_init_thread_data x11drv: Can't open display: :0. Please ensure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly.00:38
setahi, ive got a ATI 5770 and ubuntu 13.04, trying to install the driver results in this: http://pastie.org/6319635 any ideas?00:38
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bombardanyone have an idea how to fix this?00:38
bombardMaximum number of clients reachederr:winediag:x11drv_init_thread_data x11drv: Can't open display: :0. Please ensure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly.00:38
wiggmpkbombard: have some patience, dont ask your question repeatedly.. if someone knows the answer they will reply.00:39
bombardsorry about that00:39
sinewalkerkkathman:  assuming you can reach your NAS from the Mac via IP.  Probably best bet is as wiggmpk suggested, or edit your Mac's hosts file.  on Mac, to edit hosts file do following:     1.  Open Terminal     2.   type     sudo nano /private/etc/hosts         3. edit the file to add a line that reads    192.168.1.x   myNAS        (change .x and myNAS to suit)00:39
sinewalkerseta:  ensure kernel dev libraries installed to build modules.... i'll google the package names now, standby00:42
clemensHello! After re install my Notebook and update my Bios i can't install Ubuntu anymore. Bios has now a UEFI and Legacy mode. I tried to install 12.04 and 12.10 with DVD and USB-Stick but no success! Here a link from my notebook http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201203-10678/00:42
SourceSlayerWhen I type "g++ hello\ world.cpp" I get "hello world.cpp:1:35: fatal error: QtCore/QCoreApplication: No such file or directory"00:43
setasinewalker, thx00:43
wiggmpkclemens: is your BIOS set to UEFI or Legacy mode?00:43
clemensi tried both but nothing worked00:44
wiggmpkclemens: are you trying to boot Ubuntu or re-install ubuntu?00:44
sinewalkerseta:  start with     sudo apt-get install kernel-headers    ; this should contain the missing linux version.h00:45
clemensi try to install it. Just windows 7 64 bit is running know00:45
sinewalkerseta:  this will probably uncover a few more things needed.  ATI fglx driver installer usually compiles the kernel module to suit your kernel, so it'll need all the build tools00:45
setabuild-essential and the kernel-headers are installed already00:46
wiggmpkclemens: just curious are you trying to install 32bit Ubuntu?00:46
clemensno the 64 bit version00:47
wiggmpkclemens: i dont have any experience installing Ubuntu on UEFI/EFI.. but this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI is worth a read00:47
sinewalkerseta: hmm, then it's something else :(  can you paste the full output then?00:47
Newbuntu2Hello!00:48
Newbuntu2I'm trying to fix my mouse - a logitech m305 - I would like the side-scroll wheels to go fwd/back in Nautilus and Chrome browser.00:49
clemensi had installed a dual boot with win7 64 bit and ubuntu 12.04 64 bit with grub bootloader but after updating my BIOS and re install my notebook i had no success with ubuntu. Thx i give it a try ;)00:49
trismSourceSlayer: libqt4-dev00:49
SourceSlayertrism: Software center said it was installed.00:50
setasinewalker, im afraid there isnt more... may i just downgrade to 12.1000:51
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trismSourceSlayer: you'll probably need the args from: pkg-config --cflags --libs QtCore; as well00:51
SourceSlayertrism: for g++00:52
SourceSlayer?00:52
trismSourceSlayer: yup, it needs to add the include path00:52
sinewalkerseta:  sorry mate, i'm stumped.  I assume you've read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI  ?   No idea otherwise :(00:54
setasinewalker, yes already read trough that, but still thx00:55
mlgisbrguy1!* SH perl null 1.1.1.1 3074 500000:56
ubottumlgisbrguy1: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)00:56
_JuJuBeeI just upraded to 12.10 and can't get my dhcp server running.00:57
mlgisbrguy1help  how can i add nix to my irc00:59
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* sinewalker is leaving you all for coffee and family lunch01:07
Bray90820so for some reason after my netbook sleeps the touch screen doesn't work anymore01:09
Bray90820it's a dell insperon duo01:09
ntzrmtthihu777never sleep with ubuntu, never turns out right.01:10
Bray90820lol you know what i mean :p01:10
linxon634интересно... говорит ли кто-нибудь по русский? =)01:10
linxon634ok01:11
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WBFI need help with my ubuntu system, when I insert more than 1GB ram (while it's off) the bios freezes at the HP screen01:16
WBF(aka after I turn it on)01:16
Bray90820kerl wise is there anything different from 12.04 to 12.1001:16
wiggmpkWBF: possibly bad RAM.. remove all ram and test it 1 stick at a time01:16
AxelayDoes your system support more than 1GB ram? otherwise its bad RAM01:16
WBFwell when I put the stick in my server it works.01:16
WBFbut on the desktop I'm typing from it doesn't01:17
AxelayIs the slot clean?01:17
WBFYes01:17
AxelayHmmm01:17
wiggmpkWBF: that doesnt mean its not bad RAM, otherwise Axelay suggested checking to see if your board supports the upgrade01:17
WBFJust researched and 1GB is mobo limit ):01:18
topper4125some systems require you to enter bios after a ram upgrade01:18
AxelayOr, your system is not giving it enough Voltage.01:18
AxelayI had that problem with my other desktop01:19
AxelaySystem would boot up, but would restart randomly01:19
WBFthat is possible too... I should try with a bigger psu...01:19
WBFbut with 2 512 sticks works just fine.01:19
WBFtwo*01:19
wiggmpkWBF: if the motherboard limit is 1GB a bigger PSU wont help01:20
WBFmust be mobo limit :P01:20
Axelay]True, Check the motherboard limit01:20
WBFoh well it is 1024MB01:20
WBFbut, I'm getting a high end gaming pc for my birthday :D bulding myself.01:21
packetfrogAnyone know of PPA's with more good games?01:21
Bray90820WBF go with AMD01:22
Bray90820AMD and ATI01:22
topper4125packetfrog, more good games besides steam?01:22
WBF(does amd work better on linux?? XD)01:22
wiggmpkBray90820: why?01:22
wiggmpkpacketfrog: look up playdeb.net01:22
Bray90820because nvida is horable with linux01:22
packetfrogThank you.01:22
packetfrog:)01:23
packetfrognvidia works fine with my linux01:23
* packetfrog pets his linux01:23
mgolischBray90820: why?01:23
WBFwell once I had an AMD laptop. then I was able to run my favorite game at 5FPS with minimum settings XD01:23
Bray90820i have had nothing but problems with linux and nvida01:24
mgolischactualy their drivers have been better like for ever01:24
wiggmpkBray90820: then why suggest AMD processors ?01:24
Bray90820and so has Linus Torvalds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_36yNWw_07g01:24
wiggmpkBray90820: i've not had an issue with Intel iSeries processors nor nvidia cards01:24
mgolischbut i think its gotten better on the ati side since amd took over01:24
Bray90820AMD and ATI work really well together01:25
WBFBray90820: I made a great install with ubuntu and a NVIDIA, infact I get 50FPS (not lying) (300MB memory on card XD)01:25
AxelayIts just AMD graphics now :P01:25
Bray90820AMD and ATI are basically the same company01:25
AxelayATI as a brand has gone01:25
wiggmpkBray90820: they do now, like mgolisch pointed out, they are the same parent company now01:25
topper4125here's one reason to avoid intel cpu's: http://techcrunch.com/2012/09/14/new-intel-chip-wont-support-linux/01:25
Bray90820i had horrible overscan problems that i couldn't fix01:25
Bray90820with nvida01:26
Bray90820i had to sell the card and go with ATI01:26
wiggmpktopper4125: thats not a reason to avoid Intel chipsets.. just that particular chip01:26
AxelayI'd love to own the GTX titan though01:26
WBFwell, I do not have to avoid intel, I7 :D01:26
Bray90820i have never had much luck with nvida even on the windows side01:27
AxelayIntel have wayyy better IPC than what AMD can make.01:27
* Dimensional is a little angry at AMD because they don't really support their legacy graphics cards like they say they are.01:27
* Dimensional isn't able to install their legacy drivers onto his laptop on Ubuntu01:27
topper4125its a good enough reason for me. If they want to tie themselves down to one OS... then I'll keep it in mind when I shop new hardware.01:28
AxelayI'd love an AMD 8350 :\01:28
Bray90820i would never recommend Nvida to anyone01:29
AxelayWhy not?01:29
WBFwell, it's your opinion to choose Nvidia or AMD but I'm sticking with NVIDIA until I have issues and I'm typing from a computer with a NVIDIA.01:29
Bray90820never had ANY luck with using one01:29
Bray90820i had BSOD overscan issues and all sorts of different things01:29
wiggmpktopper4125: its not Intel's job to make an OS support their chip.. they are a business and unfortunately market control in the desktop/mobile area is still dominated by Windows and Apple..01:30
AxelayThats unfortunate. If you get a bad expereince with a brand/make it shows on what you buy next.01:30
topper4125M$ asked intel to make a chip that would work only with Win... least thats the way I heard it on SEVERAL linux podcasts... so While its NOT their job to make a chip work with any particular OS... they did make the decision to agree with one OS to make a chip that won't work with the competition.... They made their choice... i made mine01:32
* WBF runs to intel store and grabs last I701:33
WBFJust imagine that D:01:33
wiggmpktopper4125: sorry to hear that, but thats the way of the world.. im sure if there are enough linux users using that chip, it will be supported.. one way or the other01:33
DimensionalFrom what I'm reading, they might support Linux later. It's because of power issues.01:34
DimensionalJust because they don't support it doesn't mean it won't work.01:35
packetfrogwiggmpk I followed the instructions on playdeb.net on how to add repo to software center but it is not loading them..01:35
wiggmpkpacketfrog: whats not loading?01:36
DimensionalI think playdeb uses it's own client?01:36
topper4125Nothing to be sorry about... AMD is a decent enough processor for my needs (MORE than enough to be honest)... it all boils down to "Buyer Decision"... I'm sure they'll be making "Open" Processors again, and maybe a few generations of processors i'll take a look at them again.01:36
packetfrogI added the software sources to softwarecenter  then the keys   and im browsing the site and clicking install now   but software center just says whatevergame not found  for anything i try01:37
AxelayOpen processors?01:37
DimensionalI feel that AMD, with them working closely with Canonical, will start doing that again.01:37
AxelayCan you explain that to me please?01:37
wiggmpkpacketfrog: did you update? open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get update" then try again01:37
DimensionalI mean Valva and Canonical.01:37
DimensionalErr01:37
DimensionalValve*01:37
* packetfrog hides his face in shame.01:38
packetfrogNever used software center  thought it did it. :P01:38
wiggmpkpacketfrog: did it work?01:38
packetfrogstill loading   i have lots of ppas :/01:38
packetfrogYes it worked! Thanks for pointing out my sillyness :)01:39
wiggmpknp01:39
DimensionalSillyFrog01:39
packetfrogAnd for pointing out the wonderful game ppa :)01:39
coldpizza72iWhats the default username/password for an xubuntu live cd?01:39
wiggmpkpacketfrog: well technically its not a PPA01:39
Dimensionaluh, root?01:39
wiggmpkpacketfrog: just a repository01:39
DimensionalOr live?01:39
DimensionalOr User?01:40
Ben64Dimensional: don't just make stuff up : /01:40
coldpizza72iBen64: do you know?01:40
* Dimensional never makes stuff up. He did see an elephant in his pajamas. :P01:40
Ben64there is no password on live cd01:40
DimensionalGroucho Marx! :P01:40
coldpizza72iBen64: im promted for a username/passowrd. Do i just use root and emptypassword?01:41
Ben64password for....01:41
coldpizza72ilogging in01:41
Ben64it logs in automatically...01:42
WBFyou wanna be root on the livecd?01:42
coldpizza72iBen64: not for me01:42
WBFcoldpizza72i, are you trying to get root on the livecd or what?01:43
coldpizza72iWBF: im trying to log into the desktop01:43
WBFcoldpizza72i,  do you already have a user account?01:44
coldpizza72inope01:44
Ben64coldpizza72i: you should check the md501:44
WBFcoldpizza72i,  so it's a random hdd or is it a cd?01:45
coldpizza72icd01:45
mgolischwhy would it ask for a username? it should log you on automaticaly01:45
WBFcoldpizza72i, do you see try ubuntu or is ths older than 12.04?01:45
WBFthis*01:45
coldpizza72ii think its 9.10 xubuntu01:47
Ben64i'm sure you know this, but 9.10 is very old01:48
Ben64get something better01:48
WBFcoldpizza72i, not sure how to continue, try getting a 12.04 cd01:49
larstkhey01:49
dr_willismoo01:50
DimensionalWoof01:51
jm_baah01:54
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coldpizza72inope02:00
coldpizza72inope02:00
WBFcoldpizza72i, so yo cannot get another livecd?02:00
WBFcoldpizza72i, so you* cannot get another livecd?02:00
PhysicistGood news. Grettings first -- I fixed my problem successfully in my laptop. I did a reinstallation of the driver amd. Did not by a deb package, and yes, running the02:01
coldpizza72iWBF: ill have to find a usb to do it... that cd was just one i had around02:01
Physicist**original fime of the AMD Driver 13.1 beta.02:01
Physicist*file*02:01
ntzrmtthihu777looking to install precise x64 on my dell inspirone one2205, but the documentation seems to be missing parts. 6/7 parts passed, but cannot check the failure.02:01
coldpizza72iHas anyone every used clonezilla here?02:01
WBFcoldpizza72i,  try using PLoP bootcd if the computer is old02:02
WBFcoldpizza72i, PLoP is free :P02:02
dr_willisntzrmtthihu777: what documentation?02:02
Physicistcoldpizza72i: cool and weird nickname!!! ;-D02:03
coldpizza72iu dont like coldpizza?02:04
epsilonorionIs there a way to check if a wifi driver is capable of ad hoc.  I am trying two different devices with no luck02:05
epsilonorionanyone in here know anything about wifi, drivers, adhoc, etc02:08
PhysicistI have a problem with a torrent download. I am downloading slack, and is more than 2 GB.. Now, in 90% completed, it is stopped, showing that is not in the line.. ?? I do not understand.. Anybody??02:09
escottPhysicist, what is the error message02:09
Physicistnote* I tryed restart the download but does not work.02:09
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kc_hello, i am trying to follow this tutorial to setup my color profile. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro7-1/Maverick#Colors but i cant find the /etc/gdm/Init/Default/ file.02:10
Physicistescott: Is not an error.. Meantime, is stopped.. "Is not in the line" -- ??02:11
escottPhysicist, "Is not in the line"??? Where are you seeing that02:11
Physicistescott: How can I post a image in this chat?02:11
Physicist!image02:12
escott!paste02:12
dr_williskc_:  gdm is not used by default any more. that guide may be sort if outdated02:12
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Physicistnothing ubottu!!02:12
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dr_williskc_:  if its for the maverick release.. then it is a very old guide02:13
LarrySteeze|AwayI'm so confused. I don't know how, but ubuntu seems to have added animations when switching between windows overnight without an update by me O.o02:13
jribLarrySteeze|Away: it's learning and evolving02:13
kc_dr_willis, ok thx. this guide sent me there: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro6-2/Precise#Sensors_.28temps_.26_fans.29 any idea how i might install the color profile?02:13
ntzrmtthihu777dr_willis: we meet again.02:14
LarrySteeze|Awayjrib: I see that. And in the process reminding me it's winter by slipping and sliding my windows as I switch them02:14
LarrySteeze|Awayanyone here at SCALE this weekend?02:14
dr_williskc_:  old is old.. gdm is not the default anymore.. and gdm3 has replaced the old gdm.. lightdm is the default now.02:14
erickLeeLarrySteeze: Wish i was02:15
ntzrmtthihu777dr_willis: this documentation http://people.canonical.com/~hwcert/precise-testing/precise_final.html02:15
Physicistescott: "is out of line" - at: status.02:15
dr_williskc_:  if you are trying to run a  command from lightdm  that should be doable02:15
kc_dr_willis, sry lightdm is the default what?02:15
dr_williskc_: lightdm has replaced gdm02:15
dr_willis!info lightdm02:16
ubottulightdm (source: lightdm): Display Manager. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4.0-0ubuntu2 (quantal), package size 97 kB, installed size 452 kB02:16
escottPhysicist, please post a screenshot02:16
ntzrmtthihu777kc_: basically the pretty login screen of 12.0402:16
Physicistdr_willis:  hey doctor..02:16
LarrySteeze|AwayerickLee: tell me about it. I was supposed to be there but work caused me to miss my flight today02:16
Physicistescott: how??02:17
kc_ntzrmtthihu777, ok thx02:17
Ben64!ot02:17
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!02:17
ntzrmtthihu777yeah, I used gnome-fallback, but I still kept lightdm because it looks so damn much better than gdm02:18
escott!paste | Physicist02:18
ubottuPhysicist: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.02:18
sonOfRais it possible to put something in the clipboard via a console command? I would like to be able to do something like: dropbox-publink path/to/file02:18
kc_i am just installing 12.04 for the first time this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro6-2/Precise#Sensors_.28temps_.26_fans.29 suggests i use a new color profile. but apperently it is dated does any one know if i still should/need to do this. if so how? thx.02:18
sonOfRaand then have the link in my clipboard so I can paste it02:18
escottSonOfGod, install xclip02:18
sonOfRathat looks promising02:18
sonOfRathanks02:19
epsilonorionis anyone familiar with usb wifi adapters that are fully supported by linux?  I have two but neither work with ad hoc02:19
oldude67is anyone else having issues with yahoo's home page with google chrome? running lubuntu on 12.10 just updated02:21
dr_willisoldude67: saw smeone mention it yesterday..02:23
dr_willisor waa that you?02:24
oldude67dr_willis, let me get a screen shot of it and ill paste bin it. its like im missing something but dont know what.02:24
oldude67!pastebin02:25
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.02:25
WBFI <3 ubuntu for how it even supports my kengsington expert ball mouse :D02:26
Physicistescott: http://imagebin.org/247810 *note: I press start and nothing happened.02:27
Ribertyhow do i turn deadbeef on from terminal?02:27
Ribertyhow can i turn deadbeef on from terminal?02:28
PhysicistRiberty: Run the name..02:29
Ribertyit doesnt work02:29
escottPhysicist, i think you are mistranslating this error message you are seeing02:29
PhysicistRiberty: Run the program name - no sudo.02:29
Ribertydeadbeef: command not found02:29
escott!br | Physicist02:29
ubottuPhysicist: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.02:29
Ribertyis it case sensitive?02:29
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Physicistescott:  ohh.. Do you want kick me out?02:30
escottPhysicist, no... i just dont know what you expect me to do with a portugues screenshot :)02:30
jribPhysicist, escott: where's the error message? (I speak portuguese)02:30
oldude67dr_willis, http://imagebin.org/24781102:30
Physicistjrib: http://imagebin.org/24781002:31
Physicistjrib: I am glad..02:32
jribPhysicist: what am I looking for?02:32
xanguaoldude67: and what exactly is missing¿ you do realize you are using the mobile version of the site¿02:32
dr_willisxangua:  dident look likee the mobile version i saw on my phone.02:33
dr_willisbut i just went straight to yahoo,com02:33
oldude67xangua, no, and how do i change it? just installed chrome and thats how it came out.02:33
PhysicistThe download is stopped. When I press "start" show: não está na lista.02:33
WBFPhysicist, try taking your torrent and putting peers to 200 downloads to max and use a bunch of trackers :302:33
aeuDSL through pppoeconf works but through Network Manager stops some sites from working in all browsers :(02:34
WBFPhysicist,  torrent not on list?02:34
oldude67xangua, and its only yahoo. everything else comes up fine.02:34
PhysicistI have to manually turn down the webchat page.. So horrific!02:34
jribPhysicist: I don't actually use ktorrent but I imagine it's trying to say "not queued" (since it also says that in the lower panel).  You might try starting the app with LANGUAGE=C LANG=C to avoid translation problems02:35
PhysicistIs it a language problem?02:36
jribPhysicist: it's hindering your support; in that sense it's a problem :)02:37
aeuDSL through pppoeconf works but through Network Manager stops some sites to load in browsers :(02:37
Physicistjrib: Is it a language problem? I have to change the language to download files?02:37
jribPhysicist: no?02:37
Vivekanandai  deleted my cache partition for 2 gb ram lubuntu 12.04. lold system intel centrino. will that make it slow ?02:38
escottPhysicist, no. the application is only partially translated. as a result you might be misreading something and we can't understand what it says. ie a consistent language of english would help us identify what button in the gui you need to click02:38
Physicistjrib: thank you.02:38
escottVivekananda, you mean the swap partition?02:38
Vivekanandasorry yes02:39
Vivekanandaalso have another problem02:39
escottVivekananda, swap is only there to make sure that your programs/computer dont crash when you run out of memory (and for hibernation)02:39
Physicistescott: thank  you!02:39
escottVivekananda, not having it won't make you run slower, but it will mean that if you use up your RAM applications will randomly disappear02:40
Tig3rzharkok, i have a question concerning the online accounts02:40
Vivekananda I am trying to use the guide here to tweak my graphics card https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver. it talks about having na xorg.conf file and so I tried this site for it and got an error http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1492.  error of broken pipes.02:41
Tig3rzharkwhen i check to see if it has recognize my facebook account, my browser would open up a tab with this link: https://www.facebook.com/connect/login_success.html#access_token=AAAESuURw3rMBAH1oKZAGlcb4sIJ4L1ePSSdZBhsdaWKq7N7YisyMaVqZCgSticZAxFqGuEzArODqtFyweTbTPJb0NRh66sZBMj4fx0CZCRCQZDZD&expires_in=5183903&code=AQDHZ2Dyw4oQiVIbzoxogi483nRIpPgonucXF40QwG8wXLeq4wPylI7lm-NYix-L8IdYLTcYzxORdsE3JLR9JzBzW34mydVoFgkQr2WFWtcwanFgiL02:41
Tig3rzharkYKequOS0d7FurD8wZb18vZq9QTjD6epSjJGRUsU6lq8lVFgSoE8TsQgmzVY10kLVOyTY4q_w0rNB9d4jRszoaLguvSxvDR4BuXTkz602:41
FloodBot1Tig3rzhark: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.02:41
Tig3rzharksorry02:41
sirstan2Wow.02:42
escottTig3rzhark, that was a really bad idea. you should not have posted that link02:42
sirstan2Aids4u.02:42
Vivekanandamy  card is an oldd radeon rv250 firegl 900002:44
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pauserhi, is there any working way to repair suspend on Ubuntu 12.04 - Gnome3 ? i did this here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11926504 and its unsuccessful for me, please help ?!02:50
Guest86701hello?02:50
Vivekanandaescott: any help ?02:53
pauseris really no one that can help repairing the suspend, i need it for my laptop when i close it, f.e. in the library !02:53
amigamiatest02:54
calwigtest02:54
Physicistjrib: My doenload continue in Not Queued. What can I do?02:54
escottVivekananda, with what02:55
brightsparkpauser: what problem do you have with suspending?  The screen is black on resume from suspend?02:55
Physicistjrib: I did what WBF suggest earlier, but, nothing works..02:55
Physicist*download*02:56
pauserbrightspark: it does not suspend, just turn the screen black for a few secs and than brings me to login screen !02:56
pauser*turns02:56
Aliendroiddsaewq32102:56
Vivekanandawith my graphics card install. problem I posted above. Also why is Xorg taking 50 cpu cycles for mem ?02:57
Vivekanandame ?02:57
brightsparkpauser: can you suspend it from the command line? the command is 'pm-suspend'.02:57
pauserlet me give a try02:57
PhysicistI really do not want lose it.. My connection is 3G and is horrible... Is 2 days downloading! So much time...02:58
escottVivekananda, i dont really try to tweak graphics cards02:58
escottPhysicist, why would you lose it?02:58
Physicistescott: 2,5GB Slackware files!02:58
Vivekanandaescott: I want to know what is making my computer sluggish and I was just trying to see if everything was working ok. I dont need to tweak if it was workign ok. How do I find if it is ?02:59
escottPhysicist, so02:59
pauserbrightspark: no, just the same thing like from the menu !02:59
escottPhysicist, its still going to be there tomorrow02:59
escottVivekananda, well check the system monitor03:00
escottVivekananda, but "sluggish" is an incredibly vague descriptor.03:00
Vivekanandatop gives me 50 percent cpu being used by xorg. The mems are fine. By sluggish I mean that it takes time for an app, or for example a workspace switch to respond. Once it does it is pretty fast03:01
brightsparkpauser: I don't know what is causing that, I'll see if I can find anything useful and get back to you.03:01
VivekanandaI am just not sure if my video drivers are working or not. HOw do I check for that ? glxgears ?03:01
escottVivekananda, X uses the CPU when an application requests that it draw something03:01
amigamiaif you are running the 10.04LTS from my interpretation of the laws of ubuntu the server version is supported for another year.  however if you have the desktop installed as a layer for the server, how does that affect support?03:02
Vivekanandaescott: in the event that the graphics card was not working well enough, the computer would be slow right ?03:02
VivekanandaI mean if the drivers are incompatible/ less compatible .03:02
escottViVaLaRock, the slow switching sounds like it might be a lack of ram. what is the output of "free -m"03:03
dj_segfaultHi.  I tried to reboot my kubuntu 12.04 server last night, and got "kernel panic-not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on  unknown block(0,0)".  The only hint I've been able to find is that /boot is full, but that's not the case.  /boot is on / and has many GB free.  Is there anything else I can try?03:03
escottdj_segfault, that is usually indicative of the kernel not being able to find the initramfs03:04
BrewsterI'm having a brain fart and I'm hoping that someone can help me out. I can't remember the term for it but it's a screen capture tool except it records video of your desktop. I know there is such a program in the software center but I can't remember...03:04
dj_segfaultBrewster: recordmydesktop03:04
Ben64Brewster: xvidcap?03:04
BrewsterTHANK YOU03:04
Brewsterto ben that is03:04
Brewstersorry dj03:05
Brewstercya03:05
dj_segfaultYou can also do it with ffpemg/avcon, which have X11 grab modes03:05
dj_segfaultescott: How do I fix not finding initramfs.  I'm booted off of CD now03:05
jdukietCan someone help? I am using my unity to tweak my theme. I get it exactly the way I want, but if I reboot, only some of the settings are saved. An example is, the last time I rebooted my machine, everything stayed the way I had it set except my username and the clock dissapeared.03:06
PhysicistI am stalling a new Torrent client.. Everything old erased.. I will download everything again with a new download client: qBittorrent.. curse it!03:06
Ben64dj_segfault: have you tried booting an older kernel?03:06
Guest93702can anyone help me?03:06
dj_segfaultBen64: Yup.  Same message03:06
escottdj_segfault, it would be strange for that to happen without a change of some kind. try the old kernel03:06
Physicistktorrent failed here..03:07
dj_segfaultescott: I'll reboot and try the old kernel again, but it will take me a long time to get back into livecd.  Either way, how do I fix it?  I'm on my little netbook now so googling is hard03:08
escottdj_segfault, without knowing what it is its hard to say03:08
escottdj_segfault, so you have to figure out what changed. if the only thing you did was boot the new kernel its probably related to the new kernel03:09
hficquestion about vsftpd. service vsftpd restart says it restarted and gives me a pid, but ps -ef doesn't show ftp running. dmesg says 'vsftpd respawning too fast, stopped'03:09
Guest93702does anyone know how to install video card03:09
Ben64hfic: bad config03:09
dj_segfaultescott: Thanks.  I'll try the older kernel, and google initramfs03:10
dr_willisinstall a video card? power off pc.. plug it in... power on pc...03:10
Ben64Guest93702: ##hardware could probably tell you better, but you insert it into the slot on the motherboard03:10
Guest93702yes i know all of that but when i do it doesnt have video03:10
Ben64is this an ubuntu problem?03:11
dr_willistime to check how you plugged it in.. power conectorss a other cables Guest9370203:11
Guest93702the pcie x1203:12
dr_willistime to move the question to the #hardware channel i imagine Guest9370203:12
Guest93702ok03:13
jdukietCan someone help? I am using my unity to tweak my theme. I get it exactly the way I want, but if I reboot, only some of the settings are saved. An example is, the last time I rebooted my machine, everything stayed the way I had it set except my username and the clock dissapeared. I'm using 12.04 LTS03:13
azizLIGHTShow do i see what are the siezes of each dir and its contents inside ~?03:13
Guest93702#hardware03:13
Guest93702leave03:13
brightsparkpauser: you could try the workaround given at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8531487#post8531487 Other than that, I can't offer any assistance, sorry.03:13
Ben64azizLIGHTS: du03:13
amigamiaif you are running the 10.04LTS from my interpretation of the laws of ubuntu the server version is supported for another year.  however if you have the desktop installed as a layer for the server, how does that affect support?03:14
pauserbrightspark: ok, thanks ;)03:14
dj_segfaultazizLIGHTS: If you want a graphical tool, there's one called filelight that's really good03:14
dr_willisamigamia:  the 'support' basically applys to  server security updates..  for what they do.. unless you are fering to paid support.. not sure what they do exactly.. i imagine they have a set of packages that they define as supported03:15
azizLIGHTShow do i get du to just show the current dir's dir sizes03:15
azizLIGHTSinstead of every file inside every dir03:15
dr_willisazizLIGHTS:  now would be a good time to check the du man page.03:15
escottazizLIGHTS, 4kB03:15
escottazizLIGHTS, on pretty much every filesystem a directory is a single inode and is usually 4kB03:16
Ben64azizLIGHTS: check the man page for du03:16
azizLIGHTSi did du -s it only shows me the dir i am inside (current path)03:16
jdukietSo was my question not phrased correctly, or should I just not reboot ? LOL03:16
dr_willisazizLIGHTS:  tell it another directory?03:17
onux...03:17
escottazizLIGHTS, if you only want to count files in the current directory and not descend into subdirectories the option you want is "-d"03:17
onuxhello03:17
onuxanyone can help with ubuntu ?03:17
azizLIGHTSi think i am confused03:17
Ben64azizLIGHTS: "man du"03:17
azizLIGHTSyes , am reading it lol03:17
onuxanyone ?03:17
Ben64you can use the "man" command before just about anything, its very helpful03:17
Ben64onux: replace the flux capacitor03:18
onuxben..03:18
Ben64onux..03:18
skywelland 'man -k' to search man pages is cool too03:18
onuxi look for ubuntu live. cd .iso, around 30MB03:18
Ben64well you won't find it, the live cd iso is about 700MB03:19
skywellThe live install aka minimal install iso03:19
escott!minimal03:19
ubottuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD03:19
skywellhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD03:19
skywellah03:19
skywellyou win03:19
onuxand GUI around 30MB03:20
azizLIGHTSi did it03:20
azizLIGHTSthanks03:20
dr_willisonux:  only disrto i knwo with gui under 30mb is tinycorelinux03:20
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skywellFluxbox shouldn't be over 30mb I assume03:20
ExeArcohello, does any one know why the Ubuntu Installer would not be able to recognize disks?03:21
onuxdr_willis is it GUI and ubuntu ?03:21
amigamiadr_willis i am kinda confused with your dissertation?03:22
blarggHow do I get System Settings->Color->Calibrate... button ungrayed so I can click it?03:22
escottblargg, do you have a color calibrator03:22
onuxis this minimal cd GUI ?03:22
escottonux, no03:23
blarggescott, no. I take it Ubuntu doesn't have a software-only one like in Mac OS X?03:23
skywellonux: IDK how big the kernel is but I don't know if you will have a ton of success finding a 30mb linux with gui os03:23
escottblargg, how would a software-only one work?03:23
escottblargg, there are a number of cheap (linux based) calibrators you can purchase03:23
onuxubuntu 30MB GUI live cd .iso03:24
onuxskywell03:24
dj_segfaultblargg: A color calibrator is a physical device you point at your screen to match the colors to what they should be'03:24
escottblargg, http://www.hughski.com/03:24
blarggescott, see the website http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/gamma_calibration.php for some examples of how software can tease out hardware aspects. Also its sharpness test.03:24
onuxwith less features,03:24
onuxno problem03:24
escottblargg, i believe the option in the menu was probably introduced by the guys who make colorhug, and it probably detects the existence of a hardware calibration device and works with it03:25
blarggescott, OK, that clears it up. The help page should mention that you need a hardware device, as opposed to needing to install some package to enable the button.03:26
escottblargg, thats my suspicion03:26
omakoveyhi03:26
dr_willisonux:  i doubt if there exists a Ubuntu live cd/setup with X thats 30mb..  Tinycore Linuix (not a ubuntu disrto) can do it in about 15mb but thats with a very minimal setup.03:27
blarggescott, thanks.03:27
skywellonux: The iso is 28mb. But once you start installing it downloads more data. So if you installation medium is 30mb but your hardrive is larger you can definitely install using the livecd we linked earlier03:28
rajI have ubuntu-server, and I'd like to install X03:28
rajhow can I do this?03:28
skywellx being x11 or a program of your choice03:28
onuxaround 30MB, it doesnt have to be 30MB.03:28
rajI'd like to install X and openbox as the manager03:28
skywellthat was yet to be disclosed03:28
rajskywell, there are alternatives to x11?03:28
skywell32 bit: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso03:28
skywellraj: Not that I know of. But I didnt know if you were using X as a wildcard for any program03:29
onuxi see quantal quetzal might be possible..03:29
skywellonux: that is what I linked yea.03:29
dr_willisraj:  sudo apt-get install thewindowmangeryouwant03:29
onuxubottu , ill try03:29
skywellraj: what dr willis said03:29
onuxwhat a bot.03:31
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onuxalright dr willis.03:31
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Xtrexhelllo03:35
Xtrexmy friends, anyone can help me?03:35
dr_willisJello Xtrex03:35
dr_willisask the question and see03:35
skywellThats my Ex, Ample.03:36
XtrexI cant install network on ubuntu server03:36
skywellyour network is not working?03:36
XtrexI ve installed the alx driver, but I cant up eth003:36
Xtrexyes, skywll, it is not working03:36
dr_willisalx is what? a wired card? a wireless card?03:37
cristopher21xdhola03:37
Juzzyguys, I did a: cp /lib/udev/rules.d/75-persistent-net-generator.rules /etc/udev/rules.d/, rebooted, but it never added a 70- for my nick, still the defaul file, do i have to do anyhitng special to activate udev for this?03:37
Juzzynic*03:37
skywellYou shouldn't need a driver for your wired connection.03:37
iterwhat's up Juzzy03:38
autojackI have an old Debian system with a software RAID 1, which I want to upgrade to Ubuntu. could I do an Ubuntu install as a RAID 1, but with only one disk initially? (I'd pull one drive from the current RAID, install to the other, mount the first one and copy off data, then make it part of the mirror.)03:38
Xtrexmy board is stupid03:38
iteryou trying to keep eth0/eth1 from being renamed?03:38
Xtrexso I need it03:38
Juzzynot my nic config :D~03:38
BONG_ITcan anyone help me03:38
Juzzyiter: i want to be able to clone servers without them getting ipconflics03:38
BONG_ITi have a problem about initramfs03:38
Juzzyconflicts*03:38
BONG_IThow can i fix initramfs03:39
iterwhy not use puppet/salt/some other configmgr03:39
Juzzywhat doesn't stop it03:39
Juzzygeez, i cant type tonight. when you clone the server, the first boot will conflict on ips.03:39
Juzzybefore it can pull a new config from puppet, etc03:39
iterclone from management network IP03:40
itereg, have your image with a 172.16.50.x ip or something03:40
Juzzyi can do eth0 - static ip, eth1 - dhcp and it'll be fine, but udev isn't working right on the default 75- rule03:40
cristopher21xd#venezuela03:42
iterdid chavez die03:42
Juzzyone could only hope.03:43
iterhe's still on the vent so I guess they haven't terminally extubated him yet03:44
itersorry, OT03:44
Juzzythere's a new citgo down the road, makes me sad :/03:44
jetoleHey guys. I need to do a fresh install of ubuntu on a different. I currently have ubuntu installed on another disk which I will be keeping on this system, unchanged initially. I can't copy all content since the disk on this system is a 5 1TB disk raid 5 via Linux RAID. What do I need to know to restore my new system to as close to a prestine copy of the original system as possible?03:44
jetolejoin #raid03:44
jetoleoops @ join #raid. forgot the /03:45
dr_williswhy not use clonzilla jetole03:46
Juzzyjetole: gunna be tricky, if you plan on just cping everyhitng over03:46
jetoledr_willis: because I don't know it so that's why I'm asking. lol03:47
Juzzyyou'll lose your md stuff and your raid config will prolly not work on reboot03:47
jetoleJuzzy: it's just that the source disks have more info, a lot more info then the dest disks03:47
dr_willistime to hit its homepage.. its a powerfull cloneing tool03:47
jetoleJuzzy: well this will basically be a fresh install on the disks that are not on raid03:47
jetoledr_willis: a raw clone sounds dangerous here since the dest can't be a complete clone of the source03:48
Juzzyah, then it should be easier, but you'll need to fix your boot stuff after you're done03:48
jetoleI know somethings already i.e. how to view installed packages and add them, etc03:48
iterwhat's the goal jetole03:48
jetoleJuzzy: fix what boot stuff? it will be a fresh install03:48
iterwhy not just reinstall, and clone all packages03:48
dr_willisjetole:  time to check clinezilas features03:48
jetoleiter: enrypted /03:49
jetoledr_willis: ok03:49
jetoleI'll read up on it but leaving this open for anyone else to input on here03:49
iterthen cp the configs you care about from etc03:49
dr_willis!backup03:49
ubottuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning03:49
Juzzyjetole: dpkg --get-selections on the src then --set-selections03:49
iter^^03:49
skywell!cloning03:49
ubottuTo replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » (this may cause problems with multiarch before 12.10) - See also !automate03:49
iterold school debian way there03:49
Juzzyand it'll install all your packages to match, then copy /lib and some of /etc03:50
jetoleiter: I'm wondering what will be lost that won't automatically be restored for example, I seem to remember I can't cp the ~/.config/google-chrome/ as chrome knows it's a copy somehow and doesn't use it03:50
jetoleJuzzy: I know about that and dpkg. btw you still need to install the packages03:50
jetoleJuzzy: I think it's apt-get dist-upgrade after doing dpkg --set-selections03:50
iterwell of course you need to install the packages, but is that such a big deal?03:51
itercan't speak to chrome but the important stuff will work if you do the dpkg route and copy the configs03:52
jetoleisn't aptitude considered broken at the moment. I remember someone telling me, those this was like 8 months ago so maybe fixed but that aptitude had a new set of issues steming from multi arch deployment on a system i.e. installing i386 packages on a x86_64 system03:52
jetoleiter: no03:52
jetolethe packages are easy03:52
jetoleI'm looking to what else I need to know03:52
dr_willis!aptitude03:53
ubottuaptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. You may encounter problems on multiarch installs (11.10 and higher) as aptitude cannot currently handle the same package with different architectures being installed at the same time. See http://pad.lv/831768 for more information.03:53
dr_willisthat may be fixed now.. i never use aptitude03:53
jetoledr_willis: nor do I but it was mentioned in a help post above and last I heard it was broken but 2 years ago I remember a bunch of people telling me it's time to learn aptitude to replace apt and I never did and then I remember someone telling me 8 months ago it was broken and blah blah blah. doesn't matter03:55
iter"replace apt"03:55
jetoleanyways. Thanks for the help guys03:55
iter...03:55
dr_willisive never really used aptitude.03:56
jetoleiter: i.e. people telling me apt-get is old school and should start uing aptitude. Sorry. I should have been more clear03:56
iternot even once03:56
iteraptitude is a front end for apt03:56
jetoleI've used it but didn't adopt it. I think at the time I was asking about a history of which packages were installed when and someone told me if I used aptitude it kept it but if I used apt it didn't03:56
jetoleagain, long time ago03:57
jetoleiter: yeah I meant apt-get03:57
iterof course there is a log file for either but no point in arguing minutae03:57
rajdr_willis, so X is a window manager?03:57
jetoleiter: thats what someone else told. I can view a install log for apt-get based installs? how?03:58
jetoleraj: no03:58
iterjetole: /var/log/apt/history.log03:58
rajok, so I need X as a requirement for any window manager03:58
wachpwnskiDoes Linux mint use the same package manger as Ubuntu?03:58
rajX gives me a gui?03:58
rajare there alternatives to X?03:58
packetfrogX gives you the ability to have a gui.03:58
packetfrogxorg03:58
jetoleraj: X is a GUI provider I guess... it doesn't really display anything but window managers need X to run. I don't know how to explain it but no, X isn't a window manager. Gnome, KDE, Unity, Mate, Cinnamon, fluxbox, afterstep. Those are all windows managers03:59
rajgotcha03:59
jetoleraj: yes you need X as a requirement for any window manager03:59
iterjetole: there is another one too for dpkg iirc03:59
rajI thought Gnome/KDE were desktop environments03:59
itersince apt is really a frontend for dpkg03:59
rajare there alternatives to X?03:59
iter/var/log/dpkg.log04:00
jetoleiter: I only really use dpkg for --get-selections, --set-selections or... well I guess I do install the odd .deb with it04:00
* jetole looks at /var/log/apt/history.log04:00
iteryeah it's quite old, back when I first used debian you had to invoke is occassionally to clean up some broken stuff04:00
iterbut even then apt-whatever was the preferred method04:01
jetoleiter: it looks like /var/log/apt gets rotated out04:01
jetoleweak04:01
linux_hello all04:01
jetoleiter: does dpkg handle dependencies? I don't think it does04:01
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iternah it just installs debs04:02
iterapt- does the dependencies04:02
_kevin_hey all. for some reason, my grub-reboot doesn't really do anything... any thoughts? i've tried both with a number and with the menu entry name but no-go. suggestions?04:02
jetolethought so04:02
_kevin_and i've tried googling and following some results (ie http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1530022) but no go04:03
dr_willisgdebi is a handy tool. its like  smarter dpkg when installing04:03
al__Is the ubuntu package manager smart enough to preclude orphaned packages, or is it still worth downloading a separate program to do that?04:04
jetoleal__: define "preclude orphaned packages"04:07
al__jetole: prevent orphaned packages from ever occurring04:08
iteris that an issue for you?04:09
jetoleback. stepped away from my computer for a sec04:09
usuarioydddddddddddddddddd04:10
usuario,7jjj666666666666666666666666666df04:10
usuario3i04:10
iterI mean I may have run autoremove like 5-6x in the past several years04:10
usuario oiiie04:10
bazhang!es | usuario04:10
ubottuusuario: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.04:10
iterbut I would guess <1 time per year04:10
jetoleal__: what do you consider a orphaned package? Ubuntu doesn't have orphaned packages per se unless you're using it past it's end of life so, al__, what do you think a orphaned package is04:10
jetole?04:10
rajany updated directions for installing X on ubuntu server?04:11
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al__jetole: using the package manager to remove a package, what is the liklihood that of all of the dependencies that were also installed, it will remove those that are no longer needed and keep those that are needed by other packages?  is it common for dependencies to remain?04:12
bazhangraj, a DE? sure install ubuntu-desktop package04:12
bazhang!info deborphan | al__04:12
ubottual__: deborphan (source: deborphan): program that can find unused packages, e.g. libraries. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.28.8 (quantal), package size 101 kB, installed size 498 kB04:12
al__jetole: *is it common for dependencies to remain when not needed by any packages?04:13
rajbazhang, I'm getting confused between DE and X and window manager04:13
bazhangraj, the DE will include a WM04:13
rajI don't have X.org installed on my ubuntu server, right?04:13
rajisn't that what I need first04:13
rajbefore looking for a DE?04:13
al__the question really is: is deborphan necessary or does the package manager adequately handle this?04:13
bazhangraj, ubuntu-desktop is a meta-package, it will give you all you need04:14
bazhangal__, mostly unneeded, but you can run it to be sure04:14
tyroniuzdidnt know that it was meta ....good to know04:14
rajbazhang, I'd like to have openbox though04:14
rajso do I need all the extra stuff that ubuntu-desktop will give?04:14
bazhangraj, sudo apt-get install openbox04:15
rajand that'll take care of all gui stuff?04:15
tyroniuzall is a relative term lol04:15
raji mean, it'll install the X dependencies that I currently don't have?04:15
jetoleal__: dependencies remain when you uninstall packages but if they were installed to support a package as a dependency and all packages that used that dependency are uninstaled then the package manager will notify you that you can uninstall these unused dependencies, or at least it should. apt-get package manager does. If any of the gui ones don't then that's pathetic04:17
chipohola04:17
iterque onda chipo04:18
iter!es | chipo04:18
ubottuchipo: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.04:18
chipotodo piola04:18
tyroniuzis synaptic still around? or am i thinking something else?04:18
chiporecien instale el xchat y taba viendo04:18
rajbazhang?04:18
iterpor favor, english only in here please04:18
chipook04:19
bazhang!info synaptic | tyroniuz04:19
ubottutyroniuz: synaptic (source: synaptic): Graphical package manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.75.12build1 (quantal), package size 2389 kB, installed size 7686 kB04:19
bazhangtyroniuz, you can /msg ubottu find packagename if you want to search while on IRC04:20
silv3r_m00nI installed lubuntu, and in system monitor it shows lightdm running, is it necessary for it to keep running /04:20
silv3r_m00n?04:20
itersilv3r_m00n: short answer yes, less short answer try sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm restart and see what it does04:21
tyroniuzright on ...thanks all for the msgs04:22
kantlivelonganyone here use nvidia mosaic w/ Geforce Fermi cardS?04:23
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rajI installed xorg and openbox, but after rebooting, I still don't have a gui04:29
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onuxah ubuntu qetzal dont work.04:29
onuxit's not live cd04:29
rudy_#teamhacksung-support04:29
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holsteinonux: its not working on your machine?04:30
holsteinraj: startx ?04:30
dr_willisraj so did you start up x?04:30
dr_willisraj:  you are going to have a bit of a learning curve to learn  if you are building a desktop from scratch04:30
dr_willis:)04:30
onuxdr willis04:31
onuxi am looking for ubuntu livecd GUI around 30MB .iso04:31
dr_willisi wonder how well that linux from scratch guide covers this sort of stuff04:31
dr_willisonux:  i doubt if such a thing exists04:32
onuxless features will be alright.04:32
bazhang!mini | onux04:32
ubottuonux: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD04:32
dr_willisonux:  just the normal ubuntu kernel is like 100mb i think04:32
dr_williswell with its moduiles. ;)04:32
topper4125mini isn't gui... just installed mini on this machine about an hr ago04:32
topper4125it *can* be... just not out of the box04:32
dr_willisi wonder how small the normal mini install is..04:32
bazhangonux, what you want does not exist04:32
topper412528Mb04:33
dr_willisonux:  perhaps tell us why you want it?04:33
onuxQuantal Quetzal dont work04:33
dr_willistopper4125:  makes me wonder what all they got cut out of the kenrel04:33
onuxit's just not came alive04:33
bazhangonux, be clear on how, stop repeating that04:33
onuxit must download ?04:33
Gavilan2So I installed nod32 (and some x86 lib it needed) and for some strange reason my ubuntu GUI doesn't work any more... How do I fix this? I can log on to the console and do stuff there....04:33
topper4125dr_willis, i have no idea on that... lol04:33
dr_willis!info nod3204:33
ubottuPackage nod32 does not exist in quantal04:33
Gavilan2the antivirus04:34
dr_willistopper4125:  tinycore managed to be so small because it cuts out things such as wireless drivers and sound card drivers by defaultg04:34
onuxQuantal must be online, i dont want that way.04:34
rajholstein, dr_willis, do I have to do something to make X start automatically in the future?04:34
onuxis this quantal already GUI right ?04:34
onuxwithout download online.04:34
dr_willisraj:  thats the point of the login managers like xdm, slim, gdm.. and so on04:34
Gavilan2http://www.eset.com/us/download/home/detail/family/71/04:34
topper4125ah... The mini had wife and sound for this acer aspireOne Netbook out of the box...04:34
kantlivelongwhy AV for linux?04:35
topper4125*wifi... not wife... the wife hasn't worked in years lol04:35
kantlivelongseems rather silly04:35
kantlivelongAV in general is silly04:35
Gavilan2kantlivelong: I prefer to be on the safe and silly side...04:35
Gavilan2:)04:35
dr_willisraj:  it might be worth skimming the Linux From scratch  manual.. its not ubuntu.. but it covers a lot of the core 'what does what' type questions04:35
kantlivelongGavilan2: by the time your AV detects something your already comprimised04:35
dr_willislinux av apps.. normaly scans windows files for windows viruses...04:36
Gavilan2kantlivelong: not really.....04:36
dr_willisand they normally dont do it in 'real time'04:36
dr_willisso they are good for servers storeing.transfering files.. or to scan windows systems via a live cd. or other method04:36
kantlivelongill accept protecting windows users :P04:37
kantlivelongClamAV is worth looking into04:37
dr_willissince i dont know of any current linux viruses.... thats about all they can do...04:37
topper4125I also found the unofficial Arch install guide handy for a 'not so in-depth' guide to what does what from power up to GUI as well04:37
holsteinavg has a live CD04:37
dr_willisnever rely on just one av app.. always scan with several if you want to be truely paranoid.. err.. secue..04:38
Gavilan2Now I'm getting: Your screen, graphic card and input device settings couldn't be detected correctly. you'll need to configure these things yourself....04:38
Gavilan2what would you like to do?04:38
holsteinGavilan2: if you remember what you installed, just remove it, and try login04:39
Gavilan2use low graphics mode for just one session?04:39
Gavilan2reconfigure graphics04:39
Gavilan2troubleshoot the error04:39
Gavilan2exit the console login04:39
Gavilan2holstein: How do I remove it?04:39
hficI'm getting message in dmesg that vsftp and ssh are spawning too fast and have been stopped. I haven't messed with my ssh, and the ftp connection was working 12hours ago. ideas?04:40
holsteinGavilan2: i would go where you installed it, and unistall. or share what it is you think broke it, and a volunteer can suggest help removing it04:40
Gavilan2I installed the nod32 antivirus04:41
Gavilan2and some x86 library that it required04:41
md_5attempting to use sudo iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p udp --dport 2233 -j DNAT --to 10.0.3.1:22 to get ssh on an LXC instance, but I cant ssh to port 223304:42
Gavilan2I installed libc6-i386  or something like that04:42
hficpeople install antivirus on nix?04:42
Gavilan2I do :)04:43
hficwell you try =P04:43
lunitikhfic: mostly to keep windows clients safe, don't want to send them something04:43
al__what antivirus do you recommend for ubuntu?04:44
holsteinGavilan2: just try and sort out what you did, and what you think broke it04:44
lunitikclamav04:44
md_5clamav04:44
hfic^04:44
lunitikmd_5: copycat04:44
KI4ROMust be an echo in here04:45
holsteinGavilan2: you can also try as another user... see if its just your user config that got messed up somehow04:46
roastedDoes anybody know of a way to change the Unity launcher icon? (Not the icon theme - specifically that icon alone)04:47
rajis there any filemanager (like dolphin) that doesn't require a desktop environment such as gnome or kde? I just want openbox04:48
Gavilan2holstein: How do I create a new user?04:48
Gavilan2BTW: My configuration got messed up... how do I fix it?04:49
unheedingGavilan2: go to system settings -> User Accounts04:49
khackerHello04:49
unheedingraj: try PCmanFM04:49
Gavilan2unheeding: The GUI doesn't work....04:49
Gavilan2console or nothing.....04:49
unheedingGavilan2: can you switch to a virtual terminal using ctrl+alt+f1?04:49
Gavilan2yes04:49
unheedingand log in?04:49
rajGavilan2, adduser04:49
Gavilan2yes04:50
al__lunitik: pm re: clamav?04:50
topper4125roasted, did your read this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/68612/how-to-change-the-dash-icon-in-the-unity-launcher04:50
unheedingGavilan2: what seems to be the problem with your account?04:50
Gavilan2unheeding: The screen/gpu configuration broke04:50
roastedtopper4125: I did not. This looks good. I'll try this now. Thank you!04:51
yatriganeed to connect to mac shares04:51
unheedingGavilan2: a new user wont fix it.  you may have to uninstall the proprietary drivers and delete your /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:51
topper4125roasted, You're welcome, good luck04:51
yatrigafrom ubuntu..... not able to do it04:51
Gavilan2unheeding: How do I uninstall the propertiaries drivers?04:51
unheedingGavilan2: what kind of graphics card do you have?04:51
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rajunheeding, that requires LXFE04:51
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yatrigapls help04:52
lunitikal__: I don't see any such pm04:52
unheedingraj: really?  is it in the dependencies?04:52
Gavilan2BTW:  /etc/X11/xorg.conf doesn't exist, but  /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe does....04:52
unheedingraj: lxde stuff can be used without the whole environment, usually.04:52
rajoh04:52
KI4ROWhat is signon-ul?  When I restart I get a message that says it is still running and should I restart anyway04:52
rajwell, I have xorg04:52
Gavilan2unheeding: Mmmmm I have a GTX 670, but this is running inside a VM, so I'm not sure....04:52
yatrigacan someone help me in connecting to mac shares from ubuntu04:53
yatrigacan someone help me in connecting to mac shares from ubuntu04:53
yatrigacan someone help me in connecting to mac shares from ubuntu04:53
MrRanDom_yatriga, don't spam the room04:53
KI4ROyatriga, Ask once and be patient04:53
lunitikyatriga: what protocol do those mac shares use?04:53
Gavilan2so... I removed that xorg file...04:54
Gavilan2what more cna I do?04:54
yatrigacan someone help me in connecting to mac shares from ubuntu04:54
yatrigamar gaye sab ke sab04:54
holsteinGavilan2: well,, you can use the recover console to do lots of things.. recofigure graphics.. purge drivers, or packages.. the issue is finding out what the problem is04:55
unheedingGavilan2: i dunno, with a vm it's tricky.  what did you do to mess up the graphics?04:55
yatrigaguys pls help04:55
holsteinyatriga: i would make the mac share ftp or ssh, or samba04:55
ponch0Does anyone know How or IF i can reinstall my Ubuntu on Virtualbox? I managed to gunk it up, as I'm a newb and its just unmanagable at this point.04:55
holsteinponch0: yes04:55
Gavilan2unheeding: I installed Nod 32 and the x86 library!!!!!!04:55
yatrigaholstein how do i?04:55
bazhangponch0, get the iso and start afresh04:55
ponch0holstein: Awesome! how would I do it?04:56
ponch0bazhang: but how do I get rid of the old isntall?04:56
bazhang!samba | yatriga have a read04:56
ubottuyatriga have a read: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.04:56
unheedingGavilan2: on your host?04:56
bazhangponch0, just junk/delete it04:56
Gavilan2unheeding: on the VM04:56
onuxhey poncho004:56
yatrigaubottu thx all04:56
holsteinponch0: i would just remover it ans start over. with a new VM04:56
unheedingGavilan2: i'd uninstall it, you don't need an antivirus on linux04:56
ponch0holstein: just right click delete from windows type a deal?04:57
Gavilan2unheeding: How the hell do I uninstall it?04:57
Gavilan2I've no idea how to uninstall something in ubuntu04:57
Gavilan2less of all from command line....04:57
unheeding"sudo apt-get remove nod32*"04:57
holsteinponch0: in virtualbox.. just remove the VM.. or just leave it there and make a new one04:57
unheedingassuming that's the package name04:57
yatrigarhythembox does not respond04:57
ponch0oooh Ok sweet and that will free up the data used?04:57
Gavilan2unable to locate pacagke nod3204:57
yatrigarhythembox does not respond so sick04:57
ponch0holstein: and that will free up the space?04:58
bazhang!repeat | yatriga04:58
ubottuyatriga: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/04:58
bazhangGavilan2, how did you install it04:58
holsteinponch0: if you get a new one set up and want to remove the old one, that will "free up space"...04:59
yatrigasorry folks i will stick by channel rule04:59
ponch0holstein: reason I ask is because i've read somewhere, that removing it isn't possible. oh well thank you.04:59
holsteinyatriga: you can launch it from the terminal and see if there is helpful output04:59
yatrigaholstein how do i?05:00
holsteinponch0: you can rightclick on the VM, or go to the menu05:00
yatrigaholstein how do i?  can u tell me the command05:00
ponch0holstein: thank you very much05:00
Gavilan2bazhang: I downloaded the thing, and double clicked on it05:00
ponch0bazhang: thank you very much05:00
bazhangGavilan2, whats the link05:00
holsteinyatriga: open a terminal and type the command.. rhythmbox05:00
Gavilan2http://www.eset.com/us/download/thank-you-eav-linux/file/6573/05:01
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MrRanDom_yatriga, as in cntrl+alt+t to open a terminal just in case05:01
bazhangGavilan2, was it a .deb or a tar.gz05:01
Gavilan2eset_nod32av_64bit_en.linux05:01
yatrigaany substitute to Rhythembox?05:02
onuxhello can quantal quetzal run program without install05:02
MrRanDom_yatriga, there are many music and media players for Linux/Ubuntu05:03
yatrigaAmerock can help05:03
Gavilan2so? any ideas?05:03
MrRanDom_yatriga, have you sought help from the Mac crowd05:03
MrRanDom_yatriga, one of my favorite media players for years has been VLC05:04
hfichow can i find out the last packages the apt-get upgrade installed?05:05
Gavilan2I'm about to uninstall ubuntu....05:05
onuxanyone knows quantal quetzal ?rn05:05
holsteinGavilan2: reinstall, you mean.. and that will work05:05
yatrigaVlc has sad sound codecs...... Mac Crowd is Shit05:05
holsteinyatriga: what the language please05:05
yatrigaholstein sorry05:06
holsteinyatriga: i woud share samba from the mac.. and connect smb://ip05:06
yatrigaholstein cool05:06
yatrigaholstein Is it that samba is in mac already or any further installation required? newbee here05:07
Gavilan2holstein: No, uninstall...05:07
holsteinyatriga: it was in it last time i checked..05:07
Gavilan2And remove it for ever... It's pissing me off...05:07
pooltablehave an old computer like to add a new hard drive if my computer will support the 6.0Gb/s or not?05:07
holsteinGavilan2: you cant really "uninstall" it.. you'll have to just install over it, and please watch the language05:07
Gavilan2People say linux (or ubuntu) works far better than windows... In my experience, even Win98 works best than this O_o05:08
holsteinGavilan2: whats the issue? have you removed what you installed that broke your OS?05:08
yatrigaholstein cos i have already shared a folder which is not seen in the ubuntu05:08
Gavilan2holstein: I've no idea how to remove it....05:08
holsteinGavilan2: you should come here first.. clamAV is the only AV i have installed05:08
holsteinGavilan2: it works great.. i think you installed something that did more damage than help05:08
bazhangGavilan2, you install something completely unnecessary and ill-advised and then cannot remove it? thats not an ubuntu issue05:09
holsteinGavilan2: did you follow a guide you can share so that one of the volunteers can help you remove what is breaking your system?05:09
Gavilan2bazhang: Before installing it, ubuntu wasn't working great anyway....05:09
bazhangGavilan2, be advised this is NOT The complaints/rants channel05:09
MrRanDom_yatriga, just so I understand, are you trying to play media on your Ubuntu computer that is located on the Mac?05:09
holsteinGavilan2: we can troubleshoot those issues separately.. no worries :)05:09
Gavilan2I had an ubuntu with just firefox + pidgin...05:09
yatrigaMrRanDom_ YaY05:10
Gavilan2and the screen broke several times...05:10
MrRanDom_i.e. Mac>>>>>Ubuntu05:10
yatrigaMrRanDom_ YaY Man05:10
Gavilan2and the title bar seems to be broken O_o05:10
holsteinGavilan2: the hardware broke? im sorry to hear that..05:10
Gavilan2(I think it's implemented that way)05:10
Gavilan2holstein: the software...05:10
bazhangGavilan2, hardware issues? go to ##hardware05:10
Gavilan2My hardware runs perfectly well.....05:10
holsteinGavilan2: seems? you can try other title bars if you like.. whats the issue?05:10
holsteinGavilan2: i thought you had said you broke the screen on a system you realy enjoyed.. anyways.. what would you like to remove? what AV did you install? and how?05:11
yatrigaMrRanDom_ Holstein Movies from Mac to be streamed or to be copied on ubuntu05:11
Gavilan2holstein: I've already told you like 3 times...05:11
holsteinyatriga: i usually just go to "sharing" in mac, and share something i know i can connect to.. ssh, ftp.. samba05:11
Gavilan2If you don't want to help, just say so....05:11
bazhangGavilan2, not with any degree of clarity, no you have not05:11
holsteinGavilan2: that was actually me asking you how i can help.. how can i help you remove the software you installed that broke your system?05:12
MrRanDom_yatriga, have you tried selecting 'connect to server' from the 'go' menu on the mac? and then connect with the Ubuntu machine's server address, which is something like smb://machine_name ...05:12
thelodgerHey folks, I need some advice. I'm teaching Linux to complete Linux beginners over 4 weeks.05:13
thelodgerThe first week I got them to install Ubuntu, gave them the 50 year history of Linux (mainframe, Unix, GNU, Linux, Android), and explained the basic root structure of the system (/bin, /home, /etc, and so on).05:13
thelodgerThe following week was all CLI, from cd to grep. I'm now rather stuck as to where I should go next with the class. Any suggestions?05:13
MrRanDom_thelodger, wow. seriously? lol.05:13
zeromodulusis there a way to cancel login? or reboot from login screen? I hit the power button and nothing happened.05:13
holsteinthelodger: i did screen and we all connected to the session.. made html files and whateve.. theres a commandline compantion app05:14
holsteincompanion05:14
hficthelodger : package installation, upgrading, log files, vim/nano ...05:14
thelodgerMrRanDom_: seriously =)05:14
lunitikthelodger: there is actually an Ubuntu Classroom teaching guide around somewhere05:15
thelodgerholstein: screen is a great idea, I really need to explain how ssh is so useful too!05:15
Laogeodrittthelodger: Any particular focus to the course? e.g. are you targeting general desktop/GUI users, or is your audience Windows sysadmins who are interested in running Linux servers? That should have a big effect on what you'd prioritise or cover at all05:15
MrRanDom_thelodger, you know, it depends on the students, their knowledge of computers, what they hope to accomplish using Linux; usually people have things they especially like to do on a computer - music, photos, writing - so it's good to target something rather than trying to teach 'everything'05:15
hficLaogeodritt: hes already said its a class of newbies05:16
JoseeAntonioRthelodger: All the documentation we use in the Ubuntu Classroom Team is at wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom05:16
thelodgerhfic: definitely a good idea, I'd drafted up some vim bits already =)05:16
lunitikthelodger: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Training will give some ideas05:16
Laogeodritthfic: "Linux beginners" is still very broad05:16
thelodgerlunitik: That's savage, thanks for the link!05:16
hficLaogeodritt: if he's teaching cd and grep .. i doubt its to any type of sysadmin05:16
MrRanDom_I've been at this more than a decade and I feel like a beginner every day05:16
Laogeodritthfic: good point05:16
hfic:)05:17
dr_willisregular expressions :) make a good topic to teach beginners...05:17
yatrigaMrRanDom_ No, but i need to05:17
zeromodulusis it bad to hold in the power button at the login screen?05:17
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dr_willisreally scare them05:17
hficmake sure you teach editors!! and not emacs05:17
MrRanDom_yatriga, do you have samba even installed on the ubuntu machine?05:17
dr_williszeromodulus:  normally if you just press it- it should reboot.. forceing a power off.. is not a good idea05:17
Laogeodrittdr_willis: eek, regexes to beginners? Either really scare them, or make them use them EVERYWHERE... I made myself more problems than I solved when I first learnt how to use regexes...05:17
zeromodulusyeah, I thought so too, but it doesn't work.05:18
yatrigaMrRanDom_ Ya05:18
zeromodulusI pressed it a few times and it just stayed on.05:18
dr_williszeromodulus:  and befor you do it.. you really could go to the console and try a reboot/shutdown command05:18
lunitikhfic: emacs isn't a text editor, it is a text-based operating system05:18
zeromoduluscan't login05:18
dr_willisor at least run the 'sync' command a few times in a row befor you force it down.05:18
dr_williszeromodulus:  you cant login at the console/ why not?05:18
zeromodulusforgot my password05:18
thelodgerLaogeodritt: That's a very good point. The distribution of these people would be students, people who have been told they need to try Ubuntu or some other distro, and people who work for tech companies but either not in a technical role but would like to, or people who work on embedded software. I think for most of them it's to get comfortable with the system. My goal would be to have them become constant Linux users ;)05:18
zeromodulusit's been years since this machine has been turned on.05:19
hficlunitik: sorry, forgot the separate that thought .. haha05:19
iterI had 99 problems so I decided to use regex05:19
MrRanDom_yatriga: I sent you a link05:19
dr_williszeromodulus:  the login screen might have an actual poweroff/shutdown menu item somewhere05:19
iternow I have 100 problems05:19
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zeromodulusit's ubuntu server edition05:19
zeromodulusno GUI installe05:19
zeromodulusd05:19
dr_williszeromodulus:  so you ment to say you were at the console LOGIN: prompt. ;)05:19
holsteinzeromodulus: there are recovery consoles.. under the current kernel in grub05:20
Gavilan2bazhang & holstein: http://pastebin.com/VLKN1eCt05:20
dr_williszeromodulus:  alt-ctrl-delete or alt-cgrl-bs may kick it into reboot mode also05:20
zeromodulusah, k05:20
zeromodulusk05:20
oldude67now i know its just not me, installed lubuntu on second computer different hardware and still having issues with google chrome and yahoo home page.05:20
zeromodulusah, sweet, ctrl+alt+del did the trick.05:20
zeromodulusmuy excellente.05:20
thelodgerMrRanDom_: Similar to what I just said to Laogeodritt, you both raised a very good point. I don't want to scare some of them away by going full terminal on them the entire time. I think I'll put in more of the 'how to everyday things' into it over the next two weeks so05:21
oldude67for some reason or another its bringing it up as mobile.05:21
MrRanDom_thelodger: Good idea. If you show them you can do the same things as on a Mac or PC - then you can tell them some advantages. It's also good to go over disadvantages - but maybe that's a little advanced at this stage.05:22
werzer23I have a "is not in the sudoers file" on 12.04; grub is not being displayed on bootup.  How do I proceed to fix this?05:22
thelodgerdr_willis: I already drafted out the regex part and then said to myself "This stuff still confuses me" which is why I've been stuck for where to go =P I reckon I'll leave it for a little longer on it =)05:22
holsteinGavilan2: i would remove that.. and just use clamav.. its well supported05:22
MrRanDom_thelodger: and as long as the script kiddies of the world keep hacking into burger king, nbc and etc. you'll probably have lots to talk about re: security.05:23
holsteinGavilan2: try and get your system back by undoing what you did that broke it.. remove that05:23
zeromodulusarg, it's hold shift to get to the grub menu right?05:23
Gavilan2holstein: How?05:23
holsteinzeromodulus: should work05:23
thelodgerMrRanDom_: agreed =) Cheers for the help!05:24
holsteinGavilan2: i would look at what you installed.. remove them.. and go from there05:25
zeromodulushaha, I need to get this thing running somehow, because it's the only machine I have with a CD burner.05:25
holsteinGavilan2: you should be able to get to the package manager you are comfortable using in low-graphics mode05:25
Gavilan2holstein: I don't know how to remove it!!!05:25
zeromodulusso I can't even burn recovery discs or install something else or put in a livecd.05:25
Gavilan2holstein: I can't do anything... I have that screen, and I can't get to anything else....05:25
Laogeodrittthelodger: sounds like a good plan. Since they're non-technical users, get them comfortable with the GUI analogues to daily Win/OSX stuff, and go as far as they're interested/comfortable in configuring in the GUIs. There's some nice transition points into command-line stuff (e.g. editors -> command-line editors; be sure to front-load your explanations as to advantages/disadvantages, otherwise05:25
Laogeodrittpeople will just think they're unnecessarily difficult to learn compared to their usual GUI stuff and not care)05:25
holsteinGavilan2: "that screen" ?05:25
Gavilan2I can't actually get into low-graphics mode, I just have those 4 options, and they aren't working properly05:25
Gavilan2yes, the one i described in the paste bin05:26
holsteinGavilan2: they?05:26
vicsar..05:26
tom__#hardware05:26
holsteinGavilan2: you can sudo autoremove whatever you installed05:26
werzer23"...not in the sudoers file"05:27
werzer23grub is not being displayed on bootup05:27
werzer23how do I fix this?05:27
werzer2312.0405:28
zeromodulusnow the machine is just blank, not responding to ctrl+alt+del, or power button press.05:28
holsteinwerzer23: can you get to grub tapping shift? you can go to a root recovery shell05:28
dr_williswerzer23:  what user did you add oritinally during the install?05:28
MrRanDom_werzer23, so what is being displayed?05:28
MrRanDom_sorry - I guess I came late to the party.05:28
holsteinzeromodulus: maybe test the hard drive/memory if its just been sitting around for a while05:28
werzer23my main user is not in the sudo file nor can that user switch to root05:29
MrRanDom_zeromodulus, cntrl+alt+del is a windows thing unless you programmed that in Linux to do the shutdown thing05:29
MrRanDom_or whatever05:29
werzer23nor does the normal grub option menu show up on bootup05:29
dr_williswerzer23:  press and hold shift at bootuiup to see the grub menu05:29
holsteinwerzer23: can you tap shift and get grub to pop up?05:29
Gavilan2holstein: autoremove command doesn't exist...05:30
Gavilan2holstein: so, how do I remove it?05:30
werzer23i will try05:30
dr_willisGavilan2:  its sudo apt-get autoremove05:30
holsteinGavilan2: apt-get autoremove05:30
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thelodgerJoseeAntonioR: I missed your reply earlier, just saw it now and will check it out =) Thanks!05:31
thelodgerLaogeodritt: Yeah, I think you're right on that. Especially with regard to the everyday things. And VLC ;)05:31
Gavilan2holstein: and after that, I reboot or what?05:31
holsteinGavilan2: we willl be troubleshooting what all damage the application you tried to install did.. so, i would remove whatever you installed and try rebooting, and report05:32
JoseeAntonioRthelodger: if you need any help on that, a member from the classroom team is here to help05:33
zeromodulusah well, it's not like I can do much with this machine anyway. still need to get it connected to a network.05:34
zeromodulusI want to put OpenBSD on it too.05:34
neirpycAnyone out there have much experience with Macbook Pro installs?05:35
Gavilan2Same "low graphic stuff message".....05:36
Ribertyhow do i launch deadbeef from terminal?05:36
prashant_123456how to change screen resolution in ubuntu 12.04 using onboard graphics intel dg41 rq05:37
dr_willisprashant_123456:  the monitors/displays setting tool dosent work for you?05:39
prashant_123456dr_willis, i dont have monitors /displays settings in my menu05:40
prashant_123456dr_willis, using ubuntu classic theme05:40
dr_willisprashant_123456:  what desktop are you using?05:40
dr_willislook in the system settings tool05:40
dr_willisor whatever its called..05:40
prashant_123456dr_willis, when i switch to default gnome i have display05:40
prashant_123456dr_willis, but not in gnome classic05:41
dr_willisprashant_123456:  you set the res in either one.. it applys to both.05:41
prashant_123456dr_willis, yes but there i cannot increase screen resolution its maximumt there05:41
dr_willisso now we are down to  the actual problem....05:42
prashant_123456dr_willis, yes05:42
unheedingignore #ubuntu,#ubuntu-offtopic ALL -PUBLIC -HILIGHTS -ACTIONS05:42
unheedingwhoops05:42
dr_williswhat is your max res, and how high does it say it can go?05:42
prashant_123456wait for that i have to log out then log in using gnome default please wait05:43
dr_willisunheeding:  ignore public and the channel gets a lot quieter. ;)05:43
dr_willisor he could have figured out the command to run the settings tool... oh well.05:43
prashant_123456dr_willis, its 1600x90005:44
dr_willisthatss your laptops native res?05:44
prashant_123456dr_willis, running desktop on intel dg 41rq onboard graphics05:45
dr_willisso is that your monitors native resolution?05:45
prashant_123456dr_willis, everything is fine with windows 7 but not working with ubuntu05:45
prashant_123456dr_willis, i cant get your question05:46
dr_williswhat is the resoluition your monitor uses05:46
prashant_123456dr_willis, in display it shows this one05:46
dr_willisand what is the res you are useing now05:46
prashant_123456when i use display it shows 1600x90005:46
dr_willisand what is your monitor capable of displaying?05:47
prashant_123456dr_willis, it is capable of more than that05:48
dr_willisand how much more?05:48
prashant_123456dr_willis, wait i will tell u05:48
* dr_willis w8's05:48
lionhello world!!05:49
neirpychello lion05:50
prashant_1234561280 x 1024 dr_willis05:50
* deentut rolls eyes05:50
lionhow you doing?05:50
lionrools eye d?05:50
prashant_123456my windows 7 have 1280 x 1024  resolution on the same monitor05:50
lionwhats been going on?05:51
prashant_123456dr_willis, 1280 x 1024  i need05:52
lionany one from michigan?05:52
lionhey dave!!05:52
deentutlake michigan?05:52
IdleOne!ot05:52
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!05:52
dr_willishmm gotta hate it when your phone just reboots... ;)05:52
bazhanglion wrong channel for that05:53
lionalright...michigan in the house....royal oak here!!05:53
prashant_123456dr_willis,05:53
lionblah blah bazhang05:53
deentutthere are no pinguins @ lake michigan05:53
topper4125way wrong answer lion05:53
bazhanglion this is support only. chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic05:54
Dave114trying to setup the latest LTS server version on an old laptop to experiment with openstack.  Wifi worked during install but didn't come up on later boots.05:54
Dave114Manuall installing rfkill and doing an rfkill unblock wifi then allowed me to get wifi access temporarily but I still don't have wifi working on boot everytime the system is restarted05:54
Dave114any ideas how to fix this?  Been googling but not having much success05:54
Dave114with openstack packages installed (but not configured) I now no longer have to run rfkill manually but do have to "ifdown wlan0; ifup wlan0" to get the network to work05:55
neirpycAnyone have experience with Macbook Pro installs and getting the Nvidia stuff working correctly? I'm running a Macbook Pro 7,1 and everything I've tried just turns the screen off during boot!05:56
dr_willisprashant_123456:  hmm>05:56
lionneed system work on my view sonic latest LTS ok...wifi...comes in and out help05:56
MrRanDom_neirpyc, you realize this isn't a Mac room, right?05:56
prashant_123456dr_willis, thanks05:57
neirpycMacbook Pro running Ubuntu?05:57
MrRanDom_oh. my mistake. it's late. or early. sorry.05:57
prashant_123456dr_willis, tell my how to do this05:57
Dave114neirpyc: assuming you're installing ubuntu, is there a failsafe boot option?05:57
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dr_willisprashant_123456:   what was your Monitors res you want to use?  and what res are you curently using now? You might havee to update your vvideo card drivers or make a custome xorg.conf or use the xrandr tools05:57
MrRanDom_Dave114 - you using which version of Ubuntu? Or did I miss that?05:58
prashant_123456dr_willis, monitor on auto adjust05:58
Dave114MrRanDom_: latest LTS version of server.  12.04.205:58
prashant_123456dr_willis, i want to use 1280 x 102405:58
dr_willisprashant_123456:  and the max the config tool let you set is?05:59
neirpycDave114, running nouveau, it runs fine. When I install the nvidia-current-updates after Grub it just shuts the screen off and I have to shut down. If I boot with "nosplash --verbose text" I'm able to get to the login terminal and remove the nvidia stuff and reboot. I'm running 12.04.205:59
prashant_123456dr_willis, 1600x900 currently using05:59
prashant_123456dr_willis, max 1600x90005:59
dr_willisprashant_123456:  so you want to use a 'square' res instead of a wide screen res?06:00
dr_willisisent 1280x1024 the old square type monitor res? i forget..06:00
prashant_123456no i want to use widescreen06:00
* miadbahrami hi06:00
dr_willisprashant_123456:  and what is your  monitors native resolution? that may be the core of the issue..06:00
prashant_123456dr_willis, how to do that please tell me06:01
dr_willisprashant_123456:  look at the monitors specs.. normally you want to use the monitors native res for the best picture. not scaleing anything06:01
dr_willis1280x1024 is wide screen?06:01
Dave114neirpyc: have you tried waiting a min or so and/or hitting ctrl+alt+fN after a while?06:01
prashant_123456dr_willis, ok06:01
neirpycDave114, I've tried waiting it out, but nothing ever seems to happen. What does ctrl+alt+fN do?06:02
omkar_Hey guys,I have ubuntu 12.10 and there is an issue where the cdrom is continuosly being ejected by the OS06:03
omkar_laptop acer 5745G06:03
miadbahramihow to sync two directori in ntfs partition partition in command ?06:03
Dave114neirpyc: running mac os x on a macbook pro right now (my current probs are with a headless ubuntu server box).  ctrl+alt+fN migh get you to one of the virtual-terminals if there are problems starting X06:03
holsteinomkar_: sounds like hardare to me06:03
dr_willismiadbahrami:  rsync or unison are 2 ways06:03
dr_willis!info unison06:04
ubottuunison (source: unison): file-synchronization tool for Unix and Windows. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.40.65-1ubuntu1 (quantal), package size 616 kB, installed size 1690 kB06:04
omkar_i am seeing this generallyy when i connect external keyboard,mouse and monitor to the laptop06:04
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omkar_otherwise i have seen it working fine06:04
dr_willismiadbahrami:  rsync would be the most common cli tool for the task06:04
Gavilan2holstein: so... I did the auto remove thing... But still the screen doesn't work... any other ideas?06:04
holsteinGavilan2: try as another user. try removing any graphics drivers.. try forcing vesa with a custom xorg.conf. reinstall06:05
miadbahramidr_willis, when i use rsync show me error06:05
miadbahramidr_willis, skipping directory .06:05
neirpycDave114, I'll give it a go next time I feel like dealing with it. Thanks!06:05
miadbahramidr_willis, miadbahrami@miadbahrami-Sys:~$ rsync /media/miadbahrami/Share1/miad.bahrami/Software/ /media/miadbahrami/Mahan.Tarashe-Portable/06:05
miadbahramiskipping directory .06:05
Gavilan2how do I remove the graphics drivers? how do I force the vesa thing with the xorg.conf?06:05
Dave114neirpyc: if you're able to boot with nosplash, the next thing to do would probably be to look at your X-server log.  if you "ls /var/log/*X*" do you see log files?  Can't recall what the specific name ubuntu uses is06:05
wachpwnskiIs there a guide for the ubuntu min setup?06:06
holsteinwachpwnski: you mean, minimal?06:06
dr_willismiadbahrami:  sounds like you are not using all the right options. id check out some rsync exxamples online06:06
Dave114neirpyc: another thing might be that the nvidia drivers are loaded for your particular kernel.  Have you tried booting any other kernels?  (whatever you were running when you installed the nvidia updates)06:06
truexfan81do you guys support lightdm?06:08
dr_willistruexfan81:  its instggalled by default on ubuntu for the last few releases.. so yes06:08
neirpycDave114, unfortunately, that last part was all moonspeak to me. Haha. I'm still pretty new to this stuff.06:08
truexfan81ok how can i get it to see a compiled fluxbox?06:08
truexfan81i'm running a minimal install, right now the compiled fluxbox is all thats on here06:08
dr_willistruexfan81:  you define lightdm sessions via the making a proper ''sesion.desktop' file in  the correct directory06:09
truexfan81which is?06:09
dr_willistruexfan81:  i think it MIGHT be /etc/lightdm/somthing06:09
dr_willislook and see06:09
dr_willisthe lightdm configs mention a series of dirs it looks for06:09
unheedingI'm trying to set up my facebook account in empathy, but when i click on facebook in online accounts, it opens the dialog in an external browser window.  even if i log in it doesn't get the message06:09
dr_willisif you have any other sessions installed you can look for their .desktop files06:09
neirpycDave114, I've installed from the latest live cd for 12.04.2 and ran a system update. After that I installed the proprietary drivers for the wifi. Next step was the graphics card, but now I'm running to the black screen/screen turning off part.06:10
Dave114neirpyc: all righty.  so far you've figured out how to login in text mode and remove nvidia drivers?  Are you executing a command "aptitude ...." or "apt ...." as part of that?06:10
truexfan81dr_willis: all i see there is lightdm.conf and users.conf06:10
dr_willistruexfan81:  and looking IN the lightdm.conf would proberly say where it looks. ;)06:11
dr_willisbut it seems to be  /usr/share/xsessions here on my vps06:11
truexfan81[SeatDefaults]06:11
truexfan81greeter-session=unity-greeter06:11
truexfan81user-session=fluxbox06:11
dr_willisthat might be the right place06:11
truexfan81thats the contents of the file^06:11
dr_willistruexfan81:  that seems to imply its allready been set to use fluxbox.. so whats the issue?06:12
truexfan81i don't seem to have an xsessions in /usr/share06:12
dr_willisdo a 'locate fluxbox.desktop;   and see what it finds06:12
truexfan81dr_willis: when i login it goes right back to lightdm, so its not seeing it06:12
truexfan81ok will do that06:12
dr_willisdo a 'locate fluxbox.desktop'06:12
truexfan81no response from it06:12
dr_willistruexfan81:  or fluxbox is crashing. ;)06:13
neirpycDave114, to remove the nvidia stuff when I can get to a terminal I use "sudo apt-get remove nvidia-current-updates". It runs then I run a "shutdown -r now". Without changing the kernel options in grub, it boots fine again after that using the default nouveau drivers.06:13
truexfan81philip@netbook:~$ locate fluxbox.desktop06:13
truexfan81philip@netbook:~$06:13
dr_willistruexfan81:  do you have any other desktops  or wms installed? you did instgall fluxbox?06:13
omkar_i think the problem i m facing related to cdrom ejecting is due to usb06:13
truexfan81dr_willis: i installed the build-deps and compiled fluxbox from source06:13
holsteinomkar_: take it to another machine and confirm06:13
omkar_when i don't connect anything to the laptop everything is fine but otherwise it keeps on ejecting cdrom06:13
dr_willistruexfan81:  you could instgall for example 'jwm' and see where it puts its .desktop file at.  its a minimal window manager.. even more minimal then fluxbox06:14
Dave114neirpyc: what happens if you do a "sudo apt-get install nvidia-current-updates" instead of remove?  Trying to get ubuntu to reconfigure your drivers.  Perhaps the wifi driver setup messed things up06:14
dr_willistruexfan81:  so you have no sessions at all in the lightdm list?06:14
truexfan81right06:14
omkar_u mean reproduce the problem on another machine via connecting mouse & keyboard06:14
omkar_on the same os?06:14
omkar_but i don't have another machine currently to reproduce the problem06:14
truexfan81dr_willis: did that06:14
dr_willistruexfan81:  id install jwm. and see where its jwm.desktop is at.. and copy it as a example to use for your own custome fluxbox.desktop06:15
truexfan81locate doesn't find lwm.desktop either06:15
omkar_[ 1106.371928] hub 1-1:1.0: >unable to enumerate USB device on port 106:15
omkar_i get this error too06:15
dr_willistruexfan81:  done a 'sudo updatedb' lately?06:15
omkar_in the dmesg06:15
truexfan81i always forget that command lol06:15
truexfan81one sec06:15
neirpycDave114, never thought of trying that. Would they mess with each other even though I install the wifi drivers, reboot, then install the graphics?06:15
truexfan81hmm still nothing06:16
truexfan81philip@netbook:~$ sudo updatedb06:16
truexfan81philip@netbook:~$ locate jwm.desktop06:16
truexfan81philip@netbook:~$06:16
dr_willisits Jwm.desktop  truexfan8106:17
dr_willis;)06:17
dr_willisand in /usr/share/xsessions/Jwm.desktop here06:17
dr_willisnote the upper case J ;006:18
truexfan81yep its there here too now06:18
Dave114neirpyc: the package manager should hopefully be able to manage both wifi and graphics drivers in theory.  In practice things don't always work out quite as well.  I'm just guessing that perhaps the wifi driver install might have accidentally removed the nvidia module06:18
truexfan81so far gives a black screen and mouse pointer in Jwm06:18
dr_willistruexfan81:  thatgs jwm for you....06:18
dr_willispanel at the bottom? ;) and  a button06:18
truexfan81does nothing tho, no right-click menu or anything06:19
dr_willisminimal right clicn menu06:19
dr_willisthats odd.06:19
neirpycDave114, worth a shot! I'll give it a go now and report back in ~10 minutes after I fix it if it doesn't. =) Thanks again.06:19
dr_willisjwm is about as falsafe of a mode as one can get06:19
dr_willisI gotta do a job.. be back in a bit.06:19
lotuspsychjeis there a package that can make an icon for a webpage, like the youtube icon does?06:20
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MrRanDom_?06:21
Dave114neirpyc: I'll probably be lurking for a while if that doesn't work.  Have you updated your system recently?  Running 12.04 was it?  Googling I see a Jan 29th nvidia-current-updates that mentions fixing backlight problems in some laptops.06:21
lotuspsychjewould be nice to have more webpage start icons for docky06:21
Dave114neirpyc: from the text mode login doing "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade" should try to upgrade packages for you.  It might tell you that certain packages are being held back - often kernels don't autoupdate.  If so you might have to separately execut "sudo apt-get install list-of-held-back-packages" after updating06:22
bazhangDave114, you mean dist-upgrade06:23
bazhang!dist-upgrade | Dave11406:23
ubottuDave114: A dist-upgrade will install new dependencies for packages already installed and may remove packages if they are no longer needed. This will not bring you to a new release of Ubuntu, see !upgrade if that is your intention.06:23
Agrajag-g'day, i use focus follows mouse but only raise on click. this used to work fine but a recent update reset configuration back to click to focus. i've changed rg.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences focus-mode 'sloppy' which is what it used to be, but windows still get raised after a few seconds. how can i stop this?06:24
johnfluxHi all06:24
Dave114bazhang: what would seem to make sense.  Thanks.  I'm getting stale I guess06:24
Agrajag-i only want windows to raise when i click - how come this behaviour changed with "sloppy" mode?06:24
lotuspsychjejohnflux:hi mate, whats your question?06:25
johnfluxI get graphics corruption with my i915 intel graphics chipset, but if I pass "nomodeset" when booting, it doesn't boot - it just goes black06:25
Aravothanyone have any idea why it is that when I try to add facebook to my online accounts it opens my web browser, which then says simply, "sucess" and my facebook account is not added?06:25
lotuspsychjejohnflux:i had somebody asking same trouble on i915 on his netbook yesterday06:25
lotuspsychjejohnflux:maybe test something lighter like lubuntu?06:26
Aravothbasically I can't add my facebook account to my online accounts. anyone have any clue on how to fix it?06:26
AcidRainNo such file or directory: apache2: could not open error log file /var/log/apache2/error.log <--- error for starting apache.06:27
lotuspsychjejohnflux:did you clean install 12.10 or upgrade?06:27
AcidRainis there any other way to fix it? besides obviously creating the file and giving it apache user?06:27
AravothI hve a feeling that web apps is what is causing the error, how do I uninstall the face book webapp06:28
lotuspsychjeAcidRain: maybe #apache can help you too06:28
Gavilan2well, It's been a pleasure, but ubuntu sux... I'll try my luck on a debian now...06:34
lotuspsychjeGavillan2: theres always a solution for your trouble06:36
truexfan81i installed xfce4 from the repos, it crashes back to lightdm too06:36
truexfan81i think i'll try the other distro i have a iso for06:36
truexfan81suse06:36
ericwHi there, I had a general question. My home folder is cluttered with varius hidden files and folders. Is there a simple way to get applications to store these files elsewhere. Possibly a single subdirectory?06:37
lotuspsychjeericw: i think every app chooses config files in /home hidden dir by default06:38
lotuspsychjeericw: you would have to manually choose your specific dir on every single package06:39
prashant_123456dr_willis, i want resolution 1600x900 and that is on my windows 7 os06:39
ericwThat would be fine. Is there a standard way to do that with a package manager?06:39
prashant_123456dr_willis, my monitor supports that one06:39
neirpycDave114,  just tried running apt-get install again but it didn't detect anything wrong. I can pull up the Xorg.0.log in nano but I'm not sure what I am looking for.06:40
lotuspsychjeericw: im note sure theres a trick for that06:40
lotuspsychjeericw:you want a cleaner look on your /home folder?06:41
neirpycRunning startx  from the terminal just shuts the screen off like booting without the nosplash stuff06:41
lotuspsychjeneirpyc: did you clean install or upgrade ubuntu06:41
ericwlotuspsychje: Ok, I don't want a cleaner look for my home folder, I just don't want it as cluttered. I find it hard to find my hidden files/folders.06:42
ryebread761Can you uninstall the amazon stuff in Ubuntu 12.10?06:42
Gavilan2lotuspsychje: Yes, my solution is to stop using Ubuntu....06:42
neirpyclotuspsychje, clean install of 12.04.2 on a Macbook Pro 7,1.06:42
zanegray sudo apt-get remove unity-lens-shopping06:43
lotuspsychjeericw: you could store your hidden files on seperate dirs maybe like /home/music or whatever06:43
ryebread761Cool thanks06:43
Aravothanyone have a fix for the facebook online account issue yet?06:43
lotuspsychjeneirpyc:maybe clean install a 12.10 and install nvidia-current06:43
zanegraynp06:43
lotuspsychjeAravoth: re-ask your issue once in a while mate06:44
ericwlotuspsychje: Always an option, but thats more typing! As you said before, I would have to do it on a package by package basis. Do you have any idea how I would go about this? Any starting point would be fine.06:45
neirpyclotuspsychje, can give it a shot. I had worse luck with 12.10 last time I tried. When 12.04.2 came out I thought I would give it another go after I couldn't get WiFi in 12.04.1.06:45
lotuspsychjeneirpyc: what did go wrong on 12.10 clean?06:46
AravothMy facebook online account won't work. When i try to set up the online account for it, it opens my browser instead of what it noramlly does06:46
ryebread761What happens if you log in in the browser?06:46
neirpyclotuspsyche, couldn't get WiFi to work after suspend, if at all. Same black screen/screen turning off with nvidia-current.06:47
Dave114neirpyc: did you try the "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" idea?06:47
ryebread761WiFi has always had issues after suspend for me06:47
neirpycDave114, yeah, I tried removing the nvidia and reinstalling in the same session. Same deal.06:48
lotuspsychjeericw:as i can read, its not very recommended to erase or replace .hidden files on the home folder06:48
Dave114neirpyc: not just removing and reinstalling.  also separately running "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" in case your version of the drivers was out of date06:48
neirpycI'll give it a shot now.06:49
lotuspsychjeneirpyc:maybe turn off suspend, cause many machines have suspend bugs06:49
neirpycDave114, what is dist-upgrade? Ran it and it didn't find anything.06:50
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lotuspsychjeneirpyc:i would go search for a suspend bug for your specific hardware06:50
neirpyclotuspsychje, I'll give 12.10 a shot if I can't get this working in the next few days.06:51
lotuspsychjeneirpyc:maybe check logs at the time you suspend, to see what happens06:51
Dave114neirpyc: basically it'll update outdated stuff on your machine.  a relatively recent ndivia driver update was saying that it fixed some backlight problems - i.e. you want to make sure your version isn't a problem one06:51
lotuspsychjeericw: http://askubuntu.com/questions/20127/how-to-remove-configuration-files-completely06:52
neirpycDave114, ran update and dist-upgrade. Got 0's for all the upgrade, newly installed stuff.06:53
ericwlotuspsychje: Haha, Dangerous and bad: Yes. but I still want to do it. Thanks for the link! I wouldn't mind as much if there weren't so many. Obviously I'm going to .local and .ssh .config.06:53
lotuspsychjeneirpyc: http://askubuntu.com/questions/183485/how-to-make-suspend-and-hibernate-work-on-macbookpro-5-406:54
nearsthi ppl06:55
Dave114lotuspsychje / neirpyc: if I understand correctly neirpyc's problem is more getting graphics going than suspend/hibernate?06:55
lotuspsychjeDave114: he says he tested both clean installs on 12.04 and 12.10 with nividia-current06:56
neirpycYeah, my issue with 12.10 was both WiFi and graphics. Only graphics on 12.04.206:57
neirpycWorking on the graphics problem with 12.04.2 now.06:57
lotuspsychjeneirpyc: this looks like something https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/108544806:58
ubottuUbuntu bug 1080530 in linux (Ubuntu Precise) "duplicate for #1085448 v86d prevents suspend from completing" [Medium,Fix released]06:58
neirpycSuspend works fine for me in 12.04.2.06:59
neirpycIts actually the best experience with Ubuntu I've ever had. Which is why I'm trying to knock out this one last issue. If I can get it to use the nvidia stuff correctly, I can stop switching over to OS X to get my work done.07:01
lotuspsychjecool07:01
neirpycIt just runs hot and battery drains faster using the nouveau driver.07:02
rurufufusshow does one change the theme (e.g in this picture, use a dark theme : http://i.imgur.com/glOitl5.png ) in ubuntu 12.10? I tried changing the gtk theme and it seems to have no effect..07:03
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booboodoes Urban Terror support online play????07:13
packetfrogI have installed openssh/enabled port forwarding in my router/and cant connect from my android with connectbot    anything I should check>?07:20
zanegrayyeah. try it one step at a time. can you ssh localhost?07:20
packetfrogyes07:20
zanegraycan you ssh 192.168.. or whatever the local is?07:21
quick-how to change the ssh welcome message ? I tried to change /etc/motd but it is being overwritten by something else . Please help07:21
GoranekGood morning :)07:21
zanegrayifconfig to find your lan ip07:21
SwedeMikequick-: /etc/issue perhaps?07:21
packetfrogJust connected with local ip07:21
packetfrogMorning Goranek07:22
SwedeMikequick-: man motd says "/etc/motd.tail" is what you want to change07:22
packetfrogquick- no dont do that07:22
SwedeMikequick-: however, on my 12.04 system motd.tail doesn't exist, I only have motd.tail.old07:22
packetfrogquick- edit /etc/issue.net07:23
packetfrogand enable it in your ssh config07:23
zanegrayokay, have you tried with a different client... connect bot is pretty good in my experience07:23
packetfrogconnectbot is what i used  have not tried another.07:23
zanegraycan you use connect bot with the local lan?07:23
packetfrog?07:24
zanegrayso you tried to connect to the 192.168 address?  Im just making sure youve isolated it down to a port forwarding issue07:24
omkar_what is the command to check if a package is installed in ubuntu07:25
omkar_like rpm -qa|grep package_name in rpm based distros07:25
packetfrogI tried to connect with my outside ip and my ssh servers lan ip07:26
SwedeMikeomkar_: dpkg --list07:26
zanegrayboth dont work?07:26
omkar_thanks SwedeMike07:26
packetfrogNo both dont work :(07:28
packetfrogsorry im slow, im trying some things ;/07:28
quick-packetfrog:  SwedeMike  : Still not coming07:29
zanegraywell i would gander that a connect bot setting might be miss configed.  Are you using the default port for sshd?  you can find all the settings in /etc/ssh/sshd_config or something like that07:29
packetfrogquick- did you enable it in sshd config file?07:29
packetfrogzanegrey yes I am07:29
packetfroghmm07:30
FaheemAMhello, anyone here ?07:30
packetfrogfrom outside ip it says connection refused   its setup for port forwarding though   checked twice07:30
omkar_i just removed django but its still is being displayed in the dpkg list07:30
zanegraywell its not going to go very far if you can't even get into it from the lan side.  You said trying ssh 192.168.x.x from the server works?07:31
packetfrogfrom the server yes07:31
quick-packetfrog: i dont want a banner . i want a message after successful login the ones like welcome to ubunutu07:31
zanegrayhmm.  and youve specified your username in connect bot (i.e. the one you log into the server with)07:32
FaheemAMi need help installing ubuntu (or any distro of linux for that matter) on my samsung chronos, i think the UEFI bootloader is causing a problem when i load ubuntu via wubi or partitioning the harddrive, i"ve tried almost all methods of booting linux, via usb and cd, it seems to be a samsung firmware issue of some sort embedded in the UEFI bootloader, was wondering if there was a fix of some sort07:32
FaheemAMavailable or if anyone has encountred and solved this problem before?07:32
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packetfrogYes.  wierd   just tried on "server" to connect via outside ip and its refused.07:32
packetfrogso it has to be my router right?07:32
bazhang!uefi | FaheemAM07:32
ubottuFaheemAM: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI07:32
zanegraywell yes, i would still be concerned why connect bot is not working on lan side07:33
zanegrayare you running something nice like ddwrt?07:33
FaheemAMthanks bazhang, another issue i seem to be having is the bootloader doesnt detect gparted or any partitioning 3rd party software so i can repartition my C drive?07:33
packetfrogjust a wgr614  netgear07:33
packetfroggoing to check a howto and makesure i did it right07:34
zanegraythe general idea should be to specify the lan side ip to recieve connections ( should be static sometime in the future ), the port numer (22 for ssh) and to allow tcp from anywhere07:34
zanegrayalso just a quick check... make sure you don't have firewalld or something like that running.  Or configure it to allow you through.07:36
FaheemAMi cant seem to resize my C: drive via any 3rd party partition software under the UEFI bootloader, does anyone have a solution for that ?? lol07:38
FaheemAMcurrently using windows to do so, thereafter installing Linux on the new partition?07:39
ivan__hi07:39
FaheemAMhave tried: Gparted, Paragon Partiton, etc nothing wants to resize the harddrive, starts process but screen blanks out and goes straight to booting windows07:40
FaheemAMwill i be at risk to brick my latpop, or is the UEFI/EFI on my bootloader the cause?407:40
zanegrayyou said you were using what hardware?  a samsung chromebook?07:40
FaheemAMa samsung chronos 707:40
FaheemAMi"ve read extensively on the forums that bricking is common07:41
FaheemAMdue to samsung loading their own crappy firmware into the UEFI bootlader07:41
packetfrogol well  its all setup right      another day then! :)07:41
packetfrogthnks for the help!07:41
packetfrognight07:41
zanegraywell yeah, it was a firmware issue actually and from what ive heard its not resolved yet07:41
FaheemAMI'm still a newbie so my thinking may be wrong, but simply said, i'read no solution for the problem zanegray07:41
zanegray@packetfrong07:41
packetfrog?07:41
packetfrogwith my router?07:41
zanegray@packetfrog... good luck and sorry about the issues07:41
packetfrogill try and use a linksys1000n or wrtg54 tomorrow.07:42
packetfrogatleast that will isolate the issue.07:42
zanegrayi would emphasize getting logged in on the lan side first07:42
wiggmpkFaheemAM: how bout switching to Legacy BIOS instead of UEFI?07:42
zanegrayyou dont have another client to try?07:42
zanegray@FaheemAM thatll avoid the issue entirely from what ive heard since its just their uefi implemenation07:43
packetfrogill download one when i lay down and try07:43
FaheemAMwiggmpk well their is a boot legacy enabled but since windows was installed under EFI it doesnt want to let me partiton or install linux under legacy @ wiggmpk07:43
zanegray@packetfrog  look up putty if you have a windows box :)07:43
wiggmpkFaheemAM: and you plan on keeping WIndows installed?07:43
FaheemAMzanegray from using the laptop ios setting and disabling efi it immeditely damaged my bootloader on my laptop, i had to revert back to use windows07:44
wiggmpki jumped into the conversation like 2mins ago so excuse me if its been said already07:44
FaheemAMwell wiggmpk i dont mind dumpong windows, but the fact is i got Ubutnu installed under wubi ONLY so far with this issue07:44
chaosito714?07:44
FaheemAMi cant even boot the liveUSB or liveCD07:44
FaheemAMdumping*07:44
zanegrayso have they implemented secure boot on that thing?  would that be the issue?07:44
wiggmpkFaheemAM: have you taking a look on the Ubuntu help pages about installing Ubuntu under UEFI/EFI?07:45
bcbc2FaheemAM: wubi doesn't work on UEFI. You need the 64bit ISO to install it.07:45
FaheemAMi've checked the guide and installed tried booting it previously, as said before, the samsung refuses to identify either the USB or CD as bootable wiggmpk07:45
FaheemAMok lets leave the ubuntu problem for a sec07:45
FaheemAMlets reveryt back to partitioning07:45
FaheemAMcan i repartiton my harddrive with a 3rd party software?07:46
FaheemAMunder UEFI and secure boot?07:46
neirpycBleh, just tried a bunch of stuff with nomodeset and nvidia-xconfig, still no luck.07:46
zanegrayWell uefi should not affect it but with secure boot.. thats not something i would be sure about.07:46
zanegraydoes your bios mention anything about secure boot?07:46
FaheemAMlet me boot up and see07:47
FaheemAMbrb07:47
FaheemAM:)07:47
FaheemAMlol07:47
FloodBot1FaheemAM: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.07:47
wiggmpki thought UEFI infact was secure boot?07:47
friedI tried to recover some files. I ended up sending them to my drive with ubuntu on it. I filled that drive so there is no more room. I think this is the reason I can not log into my ubuntu.07:47
zanegraynope.  uefi is just a different kind of bios implemenation and one of its features is secure boot.07:47
zanegraySince you mostly find them hand-in-hand they are kinda easy to mix up :)07:48
wiggmpkzanegray: so then they are related07:48
wiggmpkguess I could of worded that better07:48
packetfr0gZanegrey.  Good call!! Thanks!   Its just connect bot being stupid.07:48
zanegrayyes completely related.  you cannot have secureboot without uefi07:48
friedSometimes it gives a serious of weird messages, often I get to a log in menu, and when I try to log in, it says something is wrong with my gnome power managing  setup, or some such thing07:48
zanegray@packetfr0g  awesome!!07:48
wiggmpkdunno what all this fuss is about UEFI *sigh*07:49
zanegrayuefi is great, it really is.  fast boot times and more featured.  the issue is that ms is pushing secure boot along with it, which in its self is not a bad idea...07:49
friedI fortunately had a ubuntu installation on this flash drive, but its not letting me even see the recovered files, short of actually letting me delete them so that I might try regularly getting on07:49
friedIs anyone able to help please?07:50
zanegray@fried please explain your issue again07:50
friedI just did07:50
friedOk I will cut and past what I already said07:50
wiggmpkzanegray: honestly I dont see the boot time increase.. maybe seconds if that.. more practical for rapid deployment than for every day consumers07:50
friedI tried to recover some files. I ended up sending them to my drive with ubuntu on it. I filled that drive so there is no more room. I think this is the reason I can not log into my ubuntu.07:51
friedSometimes it gives a serious of weird messages, often I get to a log in menu, and when I try to log in, it says something is wrong with my gnome power managing  setup, or some such thing07:51
friedI fortunately had a ubuntu installation on this flash drive, but its not letting me even see the recovered files, short of actually letting me delete them so that I might try regularly getting on07:51
friedBTW, how do I disable messages of people logging on and off with this IRC webclient?07:51
friedIt is making it much harder to follow what people are saying with them filling the screen07:52
zanegrayokay so you have ubuntu on a flash drive and then copied extra stuff on it and now it wont log you in?07:52
wiggmpkfried: yeah, someone should tell that to the empathy dev's too07:52
friedNo07:52
zanegrayuse pidgin, far better07:52
zanegray@fried sry im just having a hard time following your issue07:53
friedI had ubuntu on a regular hard drive, I tried to recover files to that hard drive, now that ubuntu on the HDD won't load07:53
IvelfanFrHello07:53
FaheemAMhi zanegray and wiggmpk07:53
friedAnd the ubuntu from the flash drive, can't see or delete the files filling the HDD07:53
wiggmpkzanegray: i used to, but I like the integration of empathy over pidgin07:53
zanegray@fried not sure what would be going on07:53
FaheemAMmy settings on bios are AHCI mode enabled, EDB Enabled, UEFI Boot disabled, yet i see nothin abt Secure Boot @ wiggmpk and zanegray07:53
friedwiggmpk: You mean there is no way to disable these messages of people logging on and off with this IRC web client?07:54
wiggmpkFaheemAM: if UEFI is disbaled your using "legacy" mode07:54
wiggmpkfried: no idea.. dont use a webclient for IRC07:54
Vivekanandahey everyone. Two issues. First is there any way of getting just 2d workspaces in lubuntu? The second how do I get xubuntu on top of an lubuntu07:54
zanegray@FaheemAM okay so ahci mode is good, edb... not sure what that is, uefi disabled means your using legacy like you said07:54
FaheemAMyes wiggmpk, i understnd that, but it still doesnt seem to boot any LiveUsb or CD, nor does it run any partitioning software07:55
friedwiggmpk: then what did you mean with that comment about empath dev?07:55
cfhowlettVivekananda, 2nd question first: sudo apt-get install xfce4 will give you that interface but not the apps.07:55
FaheemAMzanegray EDB from descritpiton referes to the HDD protecting itself from malware of some sort :?07:55
wiggmpkfried: because if you use empathy, you cant hide the join/part messages, hence it being annoying07:55
zanegray@FaheemAM hmmmm that sounds suspicous... doesnt it?07:55
FaheemAMzanegray in my mind it means samsung loaded some crappy firmware, funny enuf when i disabled EDB it almost crashed my windows07:55
friedBRB, restarting firefox07:56
FaheemAMzanegray after enabling it again it booted it fine07:56
Vivekanandacfhowlett: Do I understand correct that if I install apps on lubuntu I will have them on xubuntu too.07:56
FaheemAMzanegray initially i also thought the EDB refered to something concering the Secure boot07:56
Vivekanandaand no difference ?07:56
friedHow do you minimize a window with firefox 4 and ubuntu 11.04?07:56
VivekanandaAlso can anyone help me trouble shoot my video card woes ?07:56
frieddang buttons I count on using are nowhere to be found07:57
wiggmpkFaheemAM: intel processor?07:57
cfhowlettVivekananda, xfce4 is the desktop environment ... look and feel.  The actual apps would be sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop07:57
zanegrayfaheem, jeez yeah I think that would be the first thing I would start looking into.  Unfortunately I don't know a whole lot about how secureboot / edb works other than you should be able to 1) disable it and just load whatever onto it 2) load up a *very* recent bootloader that is signed by a valid key07:57
FaheemAMyes wiggmpk intel processor07:57
wiggmpkFaheemAM: Execute Disable Bit07:58
wiggmpkprobably07:58
zanegraywhich would afford the question which ubuntu version are you using?07:58
FaheemAMwell zanegray i first used 12.04 it worked fine via WUBI07:58
Vivekanandacfhowlett: I am guessing what you meant is " the actual apps would be sudo apt-get install App"07:58
FaheemAMit then crashed after the 3rd use zanegray07:58
FaheemAMi then tried the Secure remix bazhang pointed me to zanegray07:59
zanegrayExecute Disable bit or the NX bit is nothing related to secureboot and is on all computing devices nowadays... keep that enabled07:59
cfhowlettVivekananda, yes.  or to get the entire xubuntu meta-package, apt-install xubuntu-desktop07:59
FaheemAMno results as it doesnt want to see the usb drive at all07:59
zanegrayokay so i would go under the assumption that its not secure boot related....07:59
FaheemAMyes zanegray08:00
zanegraywhich doesn't help you out very much lol08:00
friedwith ubuntu 11.04, how do i find system messages in the background?08:00
FaheemAMacutally I assume (from what i've been reading) that its some firmware loaded into the samsung bootloader08:00
friedthis unity thing is very confusing08:00
FaheemAMzanegray its a common problem if googled08:00
FaheemAMlast fucking samsung laptop i buy :/08:00
zanegrayspecific to samsung?08:00
wiggmpklanguage mate,08:01
FaheemAMzanegray yes, apparently it relates to the UEFI and is a widespread issue with any OS trying to be loaded08:01
FaheemAMsorry wiggmpk but its like a month into this issue lol08:01
friedwith ubuntu 11.04, how do i find system messages in the background?08:01
wiggmpkFaheemAM: i know, it's frustrating08:01
zanegrayquick question... do you know if you have the most recent bios/uefi firmware?08:01
cfhowlettfried, 11.04 is end of life.  urge you to upgrade soonest as support has ended08:02
FaheemAMzanegray i havent updated my bios since purchase, i;ve read that samsung has alot of bugs in the new version, would u advise i do so?08:02
FaheemAMalthough my information could be flawed as it is otyher users experience lol08:02
friedcfhowlett: Never mind that now, I am in a emergancy situation, running off a flash drive because my HDD is super messed up08:02
zanegraywell i looked on their page and it says they released on in Aug 16, 201108:02
zanegraybought before or after?08:03
friedcfhowlett: so help me to use unity please08:03
FaheemAMbought about 3 months ago zanegray but could be old stock08:03
friedcfhowlett: anyway, I doubt the setup for unity has changed that much since 11.0408:03
FaheemAMlet me go update the bios or see if it can be updated, worst that can happen is i brick it :(08:03
zanegrayyeah its a possiblity.. its a quick easy check to see what bios version you have... the new one is 1.0.0.208:03
zanegrayif you could call it new :P08:04
cfhowlettfried, please ask specifics in this channel.  I'm on xubuntu so no help with unity from me.  sorry08:04
Vivekanandacfhowlett: Only xfce can also be used inside lubuntu isnt it ? if I get the entire xubuntu-desktop then it can be a standalone right ?08:04
FaheemAMhow do i see what bios i currently have zanegray ?08:04
VivekanandaFaheemAM: Cant you see that during the boot up ?08:05
zanegrayull have to boot into bios.  it should be right on the main page and possibly obfusicated... with no labels08:05
FaheemAMlol..... let me try brb :/08:05
cfhowlettVivekananda, nope. ubuntus can run pretty much any linux desktop environment.  lubuntu's default DE is lxde, xubuntu's , xfce408:05
VivekanandaI mean boot into .. ok zanegray08:05
zanegraygl08:05
FaheemAMthanks zanegray, ur a real help !08:05
friedI installed chatzilla, the window came up for rebooting firefox, I minimized that window for a moment, now how do I find that minimized system window asking if I wanted to reboot firefox now?08:05
zanegraynp08:05
friedNoone knows?08:06
Vivekanandaso lxde is a DE . What then is lubuntu ( just trying to get better political correctness I guess) Is it the distro ?08:06
aeon-ltdyes08:06
gary@seek life of pi08:07
Vivekanandaaeon-ltd: was that for me ?08:07
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friedAnyone?08:07
cfhowlettVivekananda, lubuntu IS the distro.  and you can use xfce4 with it if you want.  You could even install the entire xubuntu package if you wnated .. but why?08:07
aeon-ltdVivekananda: yes08:07
friedI guess everyone hates unity...08:07
wiggmpkfried have you tried alt+tab?08:07
cfhowlett!details|fried, details matter.08:07
ubottufried, details matter.: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."08:07
friedwiggmpk: tried that, didn't find it, I guess I need to do it manually08:08
friedcfhowlett: I did08:08
friedtwice even08:08
friedbrb, these login/out messages are driving me bonkers08:09
Vivekanandacfhowlett: I have lubuntu up and running and I dont see any huge need but some things I have gotten used to are not here on lxde. eg worspaces in rows and columns for faster swtiching ( as an aside can kupfer do this ? ) . And I need a lightweight distro so thought of getting xubuntu too along with L08:09
zanegray@fried... use pidgeon its pretty rock solid08:09
cfhowlettVivekananda, easy enough to try it out.  If you decide it's not for you, apt--get purge xubuntu-desktop should reset you to stock lubuntu08:10
fried0OK back08:11
FaheemAMhi zanegray08:11
VivekanandaI have tried it earlier and frankly I like the speed of lubuntu but there are some compromises as there would be . I am hoping to live with some and to find workarounds for some08:11
zanegrayhey whats up?08:11
VivekanandaI would like to be able to do fast switching of worspaces though08:11
FaheemAMmy bios version is not 1.0.0.2 it only says P00AAS08:11
FaheemAMmy bios version is not 1.0.0.2 it only says P00AAS @ zanegray08:11
zanegrayhmmm strange.08:11
FaheemAM... let me do some googling08:11
FaheemAMi probalby will just try n upgrade lol08:12
fried0Ok, I will explain my situation for the third time. It will take several posts08:12
FaheemAMi run windows 8 (preinstalled) zanegray btw :/08:13
cfhowlettfried0, suggest you put all the details in a .txt text file and paste it.  that way people don't have to track through multiple threads08:13
fried0Running ubuntu off a HDD, I tried to recover files to the same partition the OS was on. This completely filled that partition. Shortly after navigator crashed. I restarted. Now I can not load that ubuntu on the HDD08:13
FaheemAMzanegray i fear windows 7 is the acutual reason im stuffed, yet i dnw how lol08:13
fried0cfhowlett: Good idea, what is that website for that again please?08:13
cfhowlett!paste|fried0,08:14
ubottufried0,: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.08:14
wo0thello ppl08:14
zanegraythats a weird bios version08:14
zanegray@FaheemAM just to get the record straight.. you have windows on their right now with it on the entire drive?08:14
zanegraycan you still get into windows?08:14
cfhowlett!who08:14
ubottuAs you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)08:14
FaheemAM..... zanegray im in windows08:14
cfhowlettwo0t, greetings08:14
FaheemAMzanegray what i neglected to mention08:14
Vivekanandacfhowlett: anything for me ?08:14
FaheemAMzanegray is that i have 2 harddrives a 8GB SSD and a 1TB HDD, now i think that the 8GB is used to store the OS08:15
FaheemAMzanegray in doing so samsung have somehow locked my usage to this 8GB SSD and are using it to speed boot time....08:15
zanegrayokay so it came preinstalled with windows 8, you put 7 on there?08:15
FaheemAMits still on windows 8 zanegray08:15
cfhowlettVivekananda, based on what you said, I'd suggest you install xfce4 ... If you like that then load the full xubuntu-desktop.  If tha't08:15
FaheemAMzanegray should i revert back to windows 7??08:15
cfhowlettVivekananda, if xubuntu works out better for you, install that instead of lubuntu08:15
zanegrayokay so the 8 gb ssd is definitely not big enough to hold all of windows.  they have it set up in a technique called ssd caching.08:16
PadNet_201? ssd caching?08:16
FaheemAMyes zanegray i think thats thwe issue08:16
FaheemAMbrb]08:16
zanegrayBut, there are several different implementations for ssd caching with Intel Smart response being the most common08:16
wiggmpkkinda like superfetch zanegray?08:17
zanegray@wiggmpk well sorta.  I havent heard that term for a long time but thats mostly a windows thing to do some extra paging stuff i think08:17
l057c0d3rwhats good..  so question....  does ubuntu/unity use the gnome online accounts to connect to facebook through empathy..  or does it use the ubuntu one..08:18
wiggmpkzanegray: Smart Responce Technology? I never heard of SSD caching before so I'm curious08:18
zanegraythis is more along the lines of caching where ssd acts as a page cache.  It really depends on the implementation08:18
zanegrayOkay so heres the breakdown08:18
l057c0d3rbecause im running gnome3 and here about two days ago something with facebook and the gnome online account manager broke.08:18
ax562Who's runnning ubuntu touch?08:19
Vision-redhat help ?08:19
zanegrayThe hard drive is read by pages at a time and the OS loads these into main memory08:19
cfhowlett!tablet|ax562,08:19
ubottuax562,: The Ubuntu tablet can be discussed in #ubuntu-tablet or #ubuntu-discuss, please remember that #ubuntu is for support only.08:19
l057c0d3rso i can no longer add facebook accounts.. when i try to add an account instead of opening in the online account manager it opens in my browser..  so account is never added08:19
Vivekanandacfhowlett: thanks and I will08:19
cfhowlettVision-, redhat?  wrong channel for that.  sorry08:19
Vision-ok thxn08:20
zanegraythe issue is that read and writes from disk are expensive so ssd caching is a way to put an intermediate level between the hard drive and main memory so that the OS can find recently used pages in the cache without having to go to the disk to read08:20
l057c0d3rbasicly if ubuntu/unity did not use it i was going to reinstall with ubuntu/unity..  add my account.. and then install gnome08:20
ax562@cf not tablet phone lmao08:20
guest-1G9P13ok, I am wondering, on ubuntu,what is better for a computer ip, something such that starts with 10. or 192. ?08:21
FaheemAMzanegray sorry had a customer08:21
wo0t10. is class A, 192 is class C08:21
zanegray@FaheemAm no worries... I think i gotta hit the sack here soon08:21
l057c0d3rguest-1G9P13: well 192 would be the ip given by the router..  where 92 - 98 ext are your actual internet ip08:21
zanegrayabout 1:30 in the morning here08:21
zanegraylol08:21
FaheemAMzanegray thanks for the help, i'll figure it out08:21
FaheemAMzanegray ubuntu, is great for the communtiy, u prove it :P08:22
guest-1G9P13would it be ok if I CHANGED IT TO a static with a class a?08:22
ax562@woot, isn't 10. more for vpn and 192 for local networks?08:22
zanegraygood luck and if i were you I would make sure to backup everything. and then try some more drastic measures.08:22
wiggmpkguest-1G9P13: typically you want to use a Class C address for your local network08:22
guest-1G9P13but can it be done?08:22
guest-1G9P13and work08:23
zanegraysuch as upgrading that bios08:23
l057c0d3rso any idea.... oh which online account manager is used by empathy on unity?08:23
zanegraybut good luck08:23
wiggmpkguest-1G9P13: can what be done?08:23
guest-1G9P13use a class A ip on a home network for computer08:23
guest-1G9P13on ubuntu08:23
ax562@guest believe so..believe it's more of a format issue08:23
fried0http://paste.ubuntu.com/5557447/08:23
wiggmpkguest-1G9P13: first, the OS doesnt matter.. but to answer your question, yes it will work but its not typical. Netgear routers (modern ones) will default to a class A address if the "typical" class c address range is being used08:24
fried0Your help would be greatly appreciated08:24
guest-1G9P13just found a bug in unity08:25
cfhowlett!bug|guest-1G9P13,08:26
ubottuguest-1G9P13,: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.08:26
ax562what was that ubuntu discussion room again?08:26
ax562@cfhowlett?08:26
fried0It is sad that ubuntu paste bin lacks word wrap08:26
cfhowlett!ot|ax562,08:26
ubottuax562,: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!08:26
ax562thanks08:27
helmut_hi08:27
dr_willisfried0: that wuld be bad  to wrap code..08:27
guest-1G9P13what would be a recomended class A ip for a computer?08:27
guest-1G9P1310. xxx.xxx etc08:27
cfhowlettfried0, gotta wrap before you paste.  Is formatting/installing again an option?08:27
fried0dr_willis: Well there is a option to save for code, but I choose plain text, so it should word wrap08:28
fried0dr_willis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5557447/08:28
wiggmpkguest-1G9P13: why do want to use a Class A address? are you connected to a router?08:28
guest-1G9P13yes..,08:28
guest-1G9P13but I wan't to use a static class a08:28
wiggmpkguest-1G9P13: what brand router?08:29
guest-1G9P13d-link08:29
guest-1G9P13but I use dd-wrt08:29
guest-1G9P13firmware08:29
wiggmpkguest-1G9P13: you would have to change the entire network to use Class A ranges otherwise your gonna have a lonely computer on your network08:29
fried0cfhowlett:  there is a screen poping up asking I want to installed 11.10. And I can install 11.4 from the flash drive. Bu  I want to preserve bookmarks etc from the previous install.  I would also have to install on a new partition since the old one is out of space08:29
guest-1G9P13wiggmpk would that be bad08:30
cfhowlettfried0, thinking ...08:30
wiggmpkguest-1G9P13: if you want to get out to the internet, probably08:30
cfhowlettfried0, while booted from the USB, you can see your /home files on the HDD, yes?08:31
nearsthi ppls08:31
fried0cfhowlett: some of them I think08:31
fried0double checking08:31
guest-1G9P13wiggmpk so it won't work with the router there for no internet?08:31
l057c0d3rdr_willis: do you know if there are two online account managers in ubunt/unity  or if empathy uses the ubuntu/unity online account manager for accounts?08:32
fried0cfhowlett: I can see files there, just not all of them08:32
wiggmpkguest-1G9P13: if your router is configured to hand out IP address's via DHCP on a different network segment, then NAT wont work for your class a address.. because it would be on an entirely different network segment08:32
cfhowlettfried0, priority: save your /home files.  Lost files are (probably) lost.  Up to you how much time/effort you want to expend trying to get them back.08:33
fried0cfhowlett: I can not seem to see the files I recovered that are filling the space I need08:33
cfhowlettfried0, copy what you can see to a /usb08:33
penguinmanok, setting up samba shares is a lot easier than I remember it being these days...08:33
guest-1G9P13than could I have the DHCP of the router set to use class A?08:33
wiggmpkguest-1G9P13: do you have ANY practical purpose to use a Class A address? they are usually reserved for very large networks08:33
fried0cfhowlett: I got video files here etc.  You are suggesting no small thing. How about helping me delete the files so that I can try logging into my current HDD ubuntu?08:34
cfhowlettfried0, or ever burn them to a CD.  Then install a supported version of ubuntu.  I suggest you set up a dedicated /home partition.  Keeps /home data from getting wiped on reinstall08:34
Vivekanandacfhowlett: can I say ( even vaguely that ) xubuntu 12.04 would be still faster ( less resource hungry) than lucid gnome ( for same apps on both ) .  I just want to get a very rough idea08:34
guest-1G9P13Wouldn't it be moer secure?08:34
cfhowlettfried0, easy enough.  sudo rm -r (file to be deleted name)08:34
wiggmpkguest-1G9P13: no08:35
fried0cfhowlett: Please don't give up on recovering my current installation before you have even tried08:35
cfhowlettVivekananda, no question that xfce is less hungry than gnmoe08:35
guest-1G9P13due to persons would not think it would be class A08:35
wiggmpkguest-1G9P13: it's no more secure then any other local ip range08:35
fried0cfhowlett: and how do I make said files visible? and how can I sudo outside of the installation?08:35
cfhowlettfried0, wait 108:36
Vivekanandacfhowlett: I am comparing xfce 12 with gnome 10 ( if you noticed already!! I hope )08:36
wiggmpkguest-1G9P13: the only real benefit i can think of is millions of IP's vs hundreds of IP's08:36
guest-1G9P13ok.., than I won't08:38
fried0cfhowlett: Hmm, found the files, some of them at least I guess they weren't hidden, but  I am still stuck with out to sudo/delete files outside of the HDD OS08:38
guest-1G9P13on my Start ip address it says 192.168.1.100 i can change the last 4, what would be the pros of doing that?08:39
fried0also, I can't figure out how to open a terminal in unity08:39
cfhowlettfried0, are your /home in a dedicated parition?08:40
cfhowlett*partition*08:40
wiggmpkguest-1G9P13: the last 4?08:40
guest-1G9P13ya08:40
wiggmpkyou mean 308:40
fried0cfhowlett: I don't think so, I think it is on the same as the OS08:40
guest-1G9P13yes sorry08:40
cfhowlettfried0, and this is an ubuntu only box?08:40
cfhowlettnot dual boot08:40
fried0cfhowlett: correct08:40
fried0cfhowlett: though I do have windows on a disk and could try to set up a duelboot08:41
cfhowlettfried0, ok, let's not just yet ...08:41
wiggmpkguest-1G9P13: convenience i suppose..08:41
guest-1G9P13ok08:41
cfhowlettfried0, can you copy those files to a safe place?  CD/USB???08:42
guest-1G9P13does the Subnet Mask have to stay the same or can I change it?08:42
wiggmpkguest-1G9P13: for instance.. my network is 172.20.192.1/2808:42
guest-1G9P13ah ok08:42
genteorhi guys! i cannot enter BIOS on a IdeaPad Z560...is there any solution?08:43
guest-1G9P13172?08:43
wiggmpkguest-1G9P13: 255.255.255.240 only allows 13 IP's limiting the amount of computers able to connect08:43
guest-1G9P13how would I limit it to 4?08:43
wiggmpkguest-1G9P13: so my router is 172.20.192.1 and the ip range starts at .2 and ends at .1408:43
wiggmpkguest-1G9P13: ummm.. IIRC your subnet would need to be 255.255.255.252 (I think)08:44
aeon-ltdgenteor: that's not ubuntu related08:44
lifebird64genteor: yeah... contact support.lenovo.com (us Ubuntu folks won't have a clue).08:45
wiggmpkguest-1G9P13: actually that might only allow 2 address's08:45
fried0cfhowlett: I could make a new partition,  (not all my HDD is claimed by one) and put them onto there. But that would be complicated as that which I need to preserve are in different locations, some of which are unknown. I might also forget some data I wish to preserve.08:45
fried0cfhowlett: Are you still working on a way to delete those files outside of the OS?08:46
cfhowlettfried0, were it me and I was data loss averse, I would first back up the most critical stuff some way somehow ...08:46
wiggmpkguest-1G9P13: not sure if you can get just 4.. so 255.255.255.248 will give you 6 address's.. 1 for the router and 5 to serve08:46
guest-1G9P13 255.255.252.0 is for 4 class c addresses08:46
cfhowlettfried0, saving a system as you've described is beyond my skills. /08:46
fried0cfhowlett: The solution to all of this might simply be to delete the files cramming the system HDD, but how can I do that?08:47
wiggmpkguest-1G9P13: well technically 3, cause your router needs 1, so you'll have 3 to hand out08:47
fried0i mean partition08:47
cfhowlettfried0, if you know which files are system files and which are not, you could rm the files you no wonder need08:48
guest-1G9P13ok08:48
fried0cfhowlett: I know what files I wish to delete, and I know they are not system files, but how can I "rm" them?08:48
Vivekanandacfhowlett: I want to get a stable system and create a back up for root so that I can restore it if something corrupts. I want to make it so that even when I format the drive the backup , when restored gives me the entire OS as it is now. Possible ?08:49
guest-1G9P13how many does the standard 255.255.255.0 offer?08:49
cfhowlettfried0, so a system restore like windows does.  Yes, possible but I've never done it...08:49
aeon-ltdVivekananda: second sentence didn't make sense08:50
wiggmpkguest-1G9P13: 25508:50
cfhowlettVivekananda, I understand that the new Dell's have that option built in08:50
fried0cfhowlett:  You lost me, how can I delete these files?08:50
cfhowlettfried0, fire up a terminal and a file browser08:50
fried0cfhowlett: I mentioned before that I don't know how under unity08:51
cfhowlettfried0, open the dash and type terminal ... doesn't the super (windows) key bring up dash??08:52
cfhowlett!recovery08:52
ubottuTo rescue a broken system, boot the alternate install CD and select "Rescue a broken system"08:52
cfhowlett!recovery|fried0,08:52
ubottufried0,: please see above08:52
fried0cfhowlett: OK got a terminal window. But my issue is not directly recovery, but deleting files outside of the OS08:52
Vivekanandaaeon-ltd: I meant that I want to create not just a file / folder back up but a back up the OS so it can be restored or moved to other machines and can work like an OS without having to Install an OS08:53
fried0cfhowlett: I doubt my USB OS can rescue the broken system when the issue is lack of room on the partition08:54
aeon-ltdVivekananda: your talking about a disk image08:54
aeon-ltd*you're08:54
cfhowlettfried0, try to recover your system with that ubottu link --- safer to do that prior to point and shoot deletions08:54
fried0cfhowlett: The files I wish to delete are absolutely safe to do so, I just need to know how to do so!08:54
aeon-ltdVivekananda: remastersys or clonezilla can do something like that, but depending on your system they can be small or large08:54
cfhowlettfried0, OK to get  a terminal see   http://complete-concrete-concise.com/ubuntu-2/ubuntu-11-10-how-to-get-a-command-line-shell-or-terminal08:55
fried0cfhowlett: I said I got a terminal window08:55
l057c0d3rso...  anyone else having problems adding facebook accounts to empathy?08:55
Milos__hi, i have some help question. I already have w7 installed on my notebook , and as i have a lot of space (1TB hdd) decided to install and ubuntu 12.10 in order for dual boot. While choosing install option i choosed third one, cause first was restarting notebook ,and second didnt work for me. I installed Ubuntu on cleared partition ext4, and when installation finished i clicked restart as it wanted. Then08:56
Milos__i couldnt boot into Ubuntu, after some search i decided to install easyBCD, and I managed to add Ubuntu in booting option. Now on boot, i have to choose between w7 and ubuntu, and when i selecet ubuntu , i get grub cmd. I type boot, but it says "Kernel have to be loaded before boot". Please Help me , I donk know what to do now.08:56
fried0cfhowlett: Now what?08:56
cfhowlettfried0, sudo rm (drag and drop file name here from the explorer windows)08:56
wiggmpkl057c0d3r: i had no issues adding mine08:56
SolarisBoylol08:56
l057c0d3rwiggmpk: how long ago was it added08:56
wiggmpkl057c0d3r: like a week, maybe 208:56
l057c0d3ri've added on on this computer in the past and it worked08:56
l057c0d3rand i did it a week ago08:56
Vivekanandaaeon-ltd: does dd do something similar ?08:57
pishkuranyone has any idea, when i log into ubuntu (with login disabled), i get a popup that my login keyring didn't get unlocked and that i should enter my password?08:57
l057c0d3rbut then my brother went to add one on his account today..  and instead of opening in the online account manager..   the account manager opened a browser08:57
aeon-ltdVivekananda: yes but you'd have to have something equal to the size of the volume you're copying so you can copy it back08:57
l057c0d3ri thought this was a fluke.. so i grabbed my sisters computer and tried on hers....  and it did the same thing... im thinking maybe facebook changed something08:57
l057c0d3rthen popped in a live cd and tried on it..  same thing..08:58
wiggmpkl057c0d3r: how are you trying to add it? walk me through the steps08:58
l057c0d3rwell for starters were all running gnome308:58
aeon-ltdVivekananda: or at least equal to the size of the partitions you want to back up08:58
l057c0d3rbut i tried same way i added my origional account..08:58
fried0cfhowlett:  I got a result which was no surprise to me, PERMISSION DENIED! for deleting the file08:59
l057c0d3ropened online account manager..  clicked facebook..  clicked add account...08:59
pishkuranyone?08:59
cfhowlettfried0, sudo rm then08:59
fried0cfhowlett: I DID!08:59
l057c0d3rbut now insetad of opening in the account manager.. it opens the default browser.... and when you log in..  you get a sucess message on the website.. but since its not in the online account manager.. its not passed on.. so account is never added08:59
l057c0d3runinstalled all the browsers..  and tried again..  and odd thing.. it opened abiword instead09:00
wiggmpkl057c0d3r: i just removed mine and re-added it, without any issues09:00
fried0cfhowlett: Isn't that what you just suggested "sudo rm" you say it like it was a new suggestion09:00
l057c0d3rare u using unity??09:00
wiggmpkl057c0d3r: never ever ever ever ever09:00
l057c0d3rso you have gnome 309:00
l057c0d3rso you have gnome 3/09:00
l057c0d3rerr sorry didn't mean to double post09:01
wiggmpkl057c0d3r: GNOME Shell 3.4.109:01
cfhowlettfried0, I agree this is frustrating.  Let's take a break to clear the mind.09:01
l057c0d3rwiggmpk...09:01
l057c0d3rso it opned the add account in your online account manager09:01
fried0cfhowlett: I used sudo rm and dragged and dropped a file to be deleted (it wouldn't let me delete the directory itself) and it gave permission denied. It won't let me sudo because I am not logged into the OS the file is under09:01
l057c0d3rwell wtf09:01
l057c0d3rwhy is it opening in a browser on all the computers here09:01
wiggmpkl057c0d3r: i hit the plus sign.. asked me for my login credentials and then added09:02
l057c0d3rdid you install ubuntu/unity first...  and then installed gnome..09:02
l057c0d3ror did u use gnome remix / other way like mini install gnome09:02
nearsthowdy ubuntu fans09:02
wiggmpkl057c0d3r: did you allow access on facebook?09:02
fried0cfhowlett How long of a break were you thinking?09:02
Milos__ hi, i have some help question. I already have w7 installed on my notebook , and as i have a lot of space (1TB hdd) decided to install and ubuntu 12.10 in order for dual boot. While choosing install option i choosed third one, cause first was restarting notebook ,and second didnt work for me. I installed Ubuntu on cleared partition ext4, and when installation finished i clicked restart as it wanted. Then09:03
Milos__ i couldnt boot into Ubuntu, after some search i decided to install easyBCD, and I managed to add Ubuntu in booting option. Now on boot, i have to choose between w7 and ubuntu, and when i selecet ubuntu , i get grub cmd. I type boot, but it says "Kernel have to be loaded before boot". Please Help me , I donk know what to do now.09:03
l057c0d3rwiggmpk  yes.. i've used it before...09:03
wiggmpkl057c0d3r: i still have Unity installed, I just dont use it.. im on 12.04.209:03
lifebird64question: when upgrading (12.04/12.10 for example) is it generally a better idea to do a fresh install or would I be wasting my time/effort?09:03
l057c0d3rhmm.09:03
nearstMilos__, tryingwith wubi and restore grub? or try it live-cd instead09:03
wiggmpkl057c0d3r: try logging into facebook and removing access to "Gnome" in your apps section09:03
nearstlifebird64, consider for lts or normal release imo09:04
aeon-ltdMilos__: nort a direct solution, but i think you should start again on installing ubuntu, keep win7 as it is though.09:04
l057c0d3rright.. tried that already09:04
fried0Anyone able to help? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5557447/09:04
l057c0d3rwiggmpk.. when you clicked the add button.. did it popup login information in the online account manager or a browser09:04
l057c0d3rbecause mine pops up in a browser...09:04
wiggmpkl057c0d3r: did you try opening empathy and adding the account via empathy and no "Online Accounts"09:04
fried0If I could just delete these files, I think everything would work again09:04
lifebird64nearst: thx09:04
l057c0d3ryeah..  but when i open empathy and click add account.. it just opens the online accounts menu09:05
wiggmpkl057c0d3r: it asked in the online account manager, no browser was opened09:05
nearstfried0, i think u gonna chroot your ubuntu hdd and repair grub for that in case09:05
Milos__aeon-ltd: i tried re-install many times, but when i click restar , and i not pull usb stick from pc, it takes me back on install menu09:05
l057c0d3rhmm.. in the ubuntu online account manager i can add a facebook account and it works fine.. but it only works with gwibber09:05
wiggmpkl057c0d3r: it should be titled "Messaging and VoIP Accounts"09:06
Milos__nearst: i dont know how to start wubi from grub09:06
nearstim use facebook with command line. more betterim guess09:06
l057c0d3rright right....09:06
fried0nearst: I didn't understand that, but I don't think it is a matter of the OS being broken, that no repair is necessary, it just doesn't have the space it needs in order to boot09:06
nearstMilos__, than worth a shot with start from usb09:06
nearstfried0, df -h09:07
fried0nearst: I don't know what that means09:07
Milos__nearst: so when i boot pc with usb> try linux witout installing - and then what?09:08
l057c0d3rwell i right click the empathy in top bar.. since empathy has no menu bar on here.. and click accounts because its the only option there09:08
l057c0d3rand online accounts opens09:08
l057c0d3rclick faceboot and then the plus sign.. and bamn.. web browser opens09:08
l057c0d3rsigh....09:08
wiggmpktry F4, should be under the Edit menu09:08
l057c0d3rit was working a few days ago..  what happened.09:09
fried0wiggmpk:Are you able to help? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5557447/09:09
l057c0d3ri open empathy and hit f4 and online account manager opens09:09
wiggmpkl057c0d3r: weird09:10
l057c0d3rand this is a fresh install09:10
l057c0d3rjust installed it today because of this issue09:10
l057c0d3rand its the second install today09:10
l057c0d3rtried with the gnome remix..  got this error09:10
l057c0d3rtried with mini install and from term..  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop ubuntu-gnome-default-settings09:11
l057c0d3rsame issue09:11
nearstMilos__, http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd/09:11
l057c0d3rmaybe i should just install ubuntu/unity install.. and then see if i can add my account from unity.. and then install gnome :-p09:11
l057c0d3rmaybe it has something to do with 12.10?09:12
nearstfried0, look your available free space by df -h in terminal09:12
nearstbrb09:12
ak91Sore09:13
ak91Hallow09:13
ak91Selamat sore?09:13
ak91Pada gak jawab09:13
cfhowlettak91, english spoken here ...09:13
wiggmpkfried0: sorry friend.. I would suggest backing up all your important files and reinstalling..09:13
fried0http://paste.ubuntu.com/5557528/09:13
fried0wiggmpk no idea how I might delete a few files?09:14
wiggmpknearst: fried0, look your available free space by df -h in terminal09:14
l057c0d3rwell im going to try a few more things....  im about to give up and go to pidgin..09:14
wiggmpkfried0: see what's taking up all the space first09:15
fried0wiggmpk: I know how much free space I have, ZERO! So looking that up is pointless, I just need to know how to delete files!09:15
ak91Ok. Sory.09:15
ak91Introduce09:15
l057c0d3rbut i loved how empathy was built into the shell..  was nice being able to chat with people from the popup rather then opening a window09:15
fried0wiggmpk: I know what is taking up space! I am just unable to delete any of it!09:15
l057c0d3rfried0: even with sudo?09:15
ak91I am ak9109:15
wiggmpkfried0: how are you 'trying' to delete ?09:15
fried01057 http://paste.ubuntu.com/5557528/09:16
l057c0d3rwiggmpk: how did you install gnome??  with ubuntu-gnome-desktop ubuntu-gnome-default-settings?09:16
wiggmpkl057c0d3r: ummm... sudo apt-get install gnome-shell09:16
fried0wiggmpk: Sudo command, right clicking, but I know what I can't, I am outside of the OS of the partition the files are on, so I lack any way to gain permission with them09:17
wiggmpkl057c0d3r: im also using the gnome3 ppa09:17
l057c0d3rwiggmpk me too09:17
aeon-ltdfried0: chroot09:17
fried0that I know of09:17
l057c0d3rthe gnome3 ppa that is09:17
azi`i have just updated ubuntu and now when I try to boot into another OS through grub I get the error "cannot find C/H/S values" anyone happens to know what could  have happened?09:17
fried0aeon-ltd: I need more then that09:17
aeon-ltdfried0: chroot into your install09:17
fried0aeon-ltd: that word doesn't mean anything to me by itself09:17
l057c0d3rexit09:17
aeon-ltdfried0: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot09:17
fried0aeon-ltd: And how do I do that? Does that mean loading to command prompt?09:17
l057c0d3rblah09:17
fried0aeon-ltd: I don't see what that has to do with deleting files09:18
wiggmpkfried0: personally I would think it would be easier for you (no disrespect) to boot from a LiveCD and backup everything to a flash drive or external hard drive and just reinstall09:18
GeRMaN0000http://www.mircscripts.org/comments.php?cid=279909:19
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FloodBot1GeRMaN0000: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.09:19
aeon-ltdfried0: if permissions is the problem this should solve that09:19
fried0aeon-ltd: and I can chroot with files for a different OS?09:20
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FloodBot1GeRMaN0000: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.09:20
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aeon-ltdfried0: what?09:20
fried0Aside from that, germans flooding advertising09:20
fried0aeon-ltd: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5557528/09:21
aeon-ltdfried0: what you use chroot, you'll be "in" your install on the hdd acting as if you were logged into it09:22
aeon-ltd*when not what09:22
fried0aeon-ltd: Ah alright, I will read some and see what I can figure out, any help in that would be appreciated09:22
fried0aeon-ltd: It says "Type these commands in a shell which is outside the chroot. " what does it mean, outside of the chroot? And by shell, does it mean terminal?09:23
Vivekanandaanyone help me trouble shoot my graphics card problems too ?09:24
fried0aeon-ltd: It says "Install the dchroot and debootstrap packages. " but how do I do that?09:25
aeon-ltdfried0: yes in a terminal, outside of the chroot would be whatever you're booted into but not the hdd09:25
fried0aeon-ltd: It says "Install the dchroot and debootstrap packages. " but how do I do that?09:27
aeon-ltdfried0: gonna be honest here, i've never done it where i've had to do that. i've only done chroot by this https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Change_Root09:28
fried0Anyone know?09:28
aeon-ltdfried0: if you are booted into a device you can write to just apt-get those packages09:29
fried0aeon-ltd: This seems very different then the other page you gave me, which one should I use?09:30
fried0aeon-ltd: Please think of me as stupid for a second and tell me how to apt-get those packages for install09:30
fried0especially, under unity09:30
fried0which is major confusing09:30
aeon-ltdfried0: sudo apt-get install dchroot debootstrap09:31
dr_willisthe arch docs assume you know sime fundamentals.09:31
fried0aeon-ltd:  "E: Unable to locate package dchroot"09:31
aeon-ltdfried0: screw the chroot idea. have you tried something basic like using a livecd to work on the volume?09:33
fried0it was able to find and install debootstrap though09:33
fried0aeon-ltd: I am working off a live USB at this moment09:33
fried0aeon-ltd: but it won't give me permission to delete files from the OS HDD09:34
fried0er partition09:34
fried0aeon-ltd: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5557528/09:35
fried0aeon-ltd: So I guess that brings us back to chroot?09:36
fried0dr_willis: Are you able to help?09:37
aeon-ltdfried0: how did you recover files and how was it interrupted?09:37
fried0aeon-ltd: The program was called photo-something (can't recall second part of the name) and its recovery process was interrupted when the HDD ran out of space09:38
fried0I mean partition09:38
aeon-ltdfried0: is it currently mounted? can you read off the partition?09:41
dr_willisim not even sure of the original problem09:41
cousin_luigiGreetings.09:41
cousin_luigiIs there a clean way to install libreoffice 4 on Quantal?09:41
gidnaHi09:41
dr_willis!info photorec09:41
ubottuPackage photorec does not exist in quantal09:41
gidnaI've problems with evolution mail, I cannot dowload mails..09:41
dr_williscousin_luigi: theres ppas for it i belive09:41
cousin_luigidr_willis: I couldn't find one for the final release09:42
fried0aeon-ltd: photorec is the name of the program. Yes the partition is mounted and I can look at files on it, I just can't alter or delete any of them09:42
dr_willis!find photorec09:42
ubottuFile photorec found in testdisk, testdisk-dbg09:42
aeon-ltdfried0: and when you try?09:42
dr_williscousin_luigi: check on askununtu.com  i rhink i saw this asked there09:42
ubuntu-studiohello, i have some questions about installing ubuntu studio. I have already installed ubuntu 12.10, and i want to install studio. but i dont know a lot about partitioning, and i dont want to destroy my pc :P any instuctions?09:43
dr_willis!info ubuntu-studio-desktop09:43
ubottuPackage ubuntu-studio-desktop does not exist in quantal09:43
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OerHeks!info ubuntustudio-desktop09:45
ubottuubuntustudio-desktop (source: ubuntustudio-meta): Ubuntu Studio Desktop Package. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.108 (quantal), package size 4 kB, installed size 39 kB09:45
fried0aeon-ltd: And when I use the sudo command, it doesn't ask for a password but goes straight to denial of access09:46
fried0What is up with all these mode messages?09:46
dr_willisso installing the ubuntustudio-desktop package basically turns your ubuntu install into a ubuntu studio install09:47
dr_willisfried0:  silly spammers... and the bots that defend us from them09:47
cousin_luigidr_willis: no clean way, apparently09:47
aeon-ltdfried0: exact message of the denial of access?09:47
dr_willisI got them filtered out on my weechat client09:47
cousin_luigibbl09:47
dr_williscousin_luigi:  depends on how you define clean09:47
fried0dr_willis: with chatzilla, how can I turn off those messages09:47
dr_willisi have no issues insstalling  the * desktop packages09:47
dr_willisfried0:  no idea.. i perfer better irc clients09:47
fried0aeon-ltd: Would you please do me a favor and give me the exact sudo delete command again?09:47
salva!list09:48
ubottusalva: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».09:48
aeon-ltdfried0: first be careful, one mispelling or missed / could result in huge amounts of data loss if it works09:48
aeon-ltdfried0: sudo rm -r /path/to/directory09:49
fried0aeon-ltd: Ok, so what is the command please?09:49
nibblerhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5557608/ - when would i have to start to worry?09:49
dr_willisnibbler:  you could summarize the problem a bit more.. most people dont automatically go to every paste url postedd.09:50
fried0aeon-ltd: command seems to be bad, it tries to load the file, rather then trying to delete it09:50
dr_willisfried0:  whats the exact command you used?09:51
Ben64nibbler: a month ago09:51
fried0sudo rm -r '/media/1e8ea1f1-4065-414b-8724-c23425fe903e/home/me/Documents/recup_dir.1/f25124864.mkv'09:51
fried0it tries to run the video when I do that09:52
DoctorD90_hello! i need a lillte support with a script: take only ip, using ping command. i write this: ping -c 1 www.site.com |sed -e 's/.*(\([^"]*\)).*/\1/'09:52
aeon-ltdfried0: exact output please09:52
nibblerpaste above is about smart values of my harddrives, i don't knowhow to interpret them.09:52
dr_willisrun the video?  you mwan a video player app starts up?09:52
DoctorD90_but it reply to me other information too09:52
fried0dr_willis: exactly09:52
dr_willisfried0:  so if you do 'sudo rm' it starts a empty video player?09:53
fried0dr_willis: I just tried again and got a different result09:53
fried0dr_willis: aeon-ltd bash: /media/1e8ea1f1-4065-414b-8724-c23425fe903e/home/a/Documents/recup_dir.1/f0378026.mpg: Permission denied09:53
dr_willisi would cd to where that file is.. and save on the huge paths.. ;)    cd /media/1e<hit the tabkey>/home/a/Documents/rec<use tab key a lot>09:54
dr_willisthen do a ls -al f03* to check the files permissions and ownership09:55
aeon-ltdfried0: those were 2 different files?09:55
fried0aeon-ltd: I guess so, I drag and drop files to the command09:55
fried0to the terminal09:55
dr_williserr.. dont be drag/dropping.. use just the terminal09:56
fried0dr_willis why? That makes things more difficult for me09:57
dr_willisfried0:  learn the shell... you are most likely adding to our support help confusion09:58
fried0dr_willis:  OK I changed to the directory (by dropping and dragging) in terminal, but if I don't drop and drag the files still, it seems like it will be difficult09:58
nearstback. hi ppl09:58
nibblerBen64: seriously?09:58
aeon-ltdfried0: press tab when typing part of the name[s]09:58
dr_willisfried0:  whats difficult about rm fiilename >09:58
DoctorD90_i think i have done ^^ bye ^^09:59
dr_willisfried0:  the tab key is your friend... give it a kiss to tell it how much you are going to love it..09:59
dr_willis;)09:59
fried0dr_willis:  Because most of these file names are random collections of letters and numbers09:59
dr_willisfried0:  the tab key is your friend09:59
aeon-ltdfried0: go to any directory within that hdd09:59
fried0dr_willis: What is the harm in drag and drop? Is there harm at all? Or are you just using me in your rail against point and click?09:59
dr_willisfried0:  so you just want to delete some mpg files/ or what are we doing exactly10:00
aeon-ltdfried0: touch test.txt10:00
aeon-ltdthen do that, post the output here10:00
dr_willisfried0:  i imagine your dragdriooiung somehow launched the file.. using  'rm filename' is NOT supposed to start the video player10:00
fried0dr_willis: I need to delete some files, yes http://paste.ubuntu.com/5557528/10:00
nyuszika7hhi10:00
fried0aeon-ltd:  "touch: cannot touch `test.txt': Permission denied"10:01
fried0followed by the directory path I was in10:01
nyuszika7hFeb 23 10:51:27 ubuntu kernel: [  941.962661] glxgears[3546]: segfault at fffffffc ip b6c5d29f sp bfeff940 error 4 in libdrm_nouveau.so.2.0.0[b6c5b000+6000]10:01
Ben64nibbler: yep10:01
fried0dr_willis:  Well anyway, the fact remains, the live USB I am running from isn't allowing me the permission I need to delete the files I need from the OS on partition so that I can boot it again10:03
aeon-ltdfried0: this is my last idea, it's going to be unmounting the hdd then remounting with rw10:03
fried0aeon-ltd: Why would that help with permissions? And what about that chroot thing?10:04
fried0aeon-ltd: You said it would give me permission, wouldn't that be perfect then for this problem?10:04
dr_willisfried0:  you need to use sudo rights to do things.. does 'sudo touch test.txt' work?10:04
aeon-ltd^ this first10:04
fried0dr__willis lack of sudo rights IS the problem10:05
dr_willisfried0:  if you are on a live cd.. you do have sudo rights10:05
dr_willisyou are not using the installed system. you are just accessing its files..10:05
aeon-ltdfried0: on unencrypted systems this works10:05
fried0dr_willis: Apparently not10:05
dr_willisthis is on an encrypted home?10:05
fried0dr_willis: I don't recall ever encrypting it, so I suspect not10:06
dr_willisso does  'sudo touch file.txt' work ?10:06
fried0dr_willis:  But how do you explain how sudo doesn't ask for my password or give me permission? No it says I lack permission10:06
nyuszika7hfried0: on the live CD/USB, sudo is probably configured not to ask for a password10:07
dr_willisfried0:  sudo on the LIVE CD does not ask for a password..10:07
fried0It isn't giving me permission anyway10:07
dr_willisfried0:  try as a test  'sudo touch /testfile.txt'10:07
dr_willisif there was a hd failure/issue/ or filesystgtem curruption the data drive could be getting mounted read only,10:08
fried0dr_willis: it gave me no message when I put that, it just went to a fresh command prompt10:09
dr_willisfried0:  that maens it worked.  ;)10:09
dr_willisi got a real job to do.. be back in a little bit...10:09
aeon-ltdfried0: were you in the hdd when you did that?10:09
fried0yes10:09
aeon-ltdthen it works10:09
fried0in a path in the HDD in terminal10:09
fried0so how do I use that to delete files?10:10
aeon-ltdnow delete that file10:10
aeon-ltdfried0: sudo rm testfile.txt10:10
fried0aeon-ltd: rm: cannot remove `testfile.txt': No such file or directory10:11
fried0So apparently it didn't work, if the previous command was to make a file10:12
fried0not that there is any space to do so10:12
aeon-ltdfried0: do 'ls -a' is testfile listed?10:12
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fried0there are too many files in this directory to check10:12
fried0There is a second partition as well, and I also seem to lack permission in it too10:13
aeon-ltdfried0: use tab completion to find it10:13
fried0judging by how send to recycling is grayed out on all files10:13
histofried0: did you jus tell him to touch /testfile.txt  that would put it in /10:14
histodr_willis:  ^^^^^^^^^^10:14
fried0aeon-ltd: No testfile10:14
histofried0: ls /testfile.txt10:14
fried0no such file10:14
aeon-ltdif you did what histo said, we've made no progress10:14
fried0it didnt make it, despite the lack of message10:15
aeon-ltdfried0: not even in /?10:16
fried0aeon-ltd: where is that?10:16
aeon-ltdthe highest directory10:16
fried0aeon-ltd: so where I am when I click on the partition?10:17
aeon-ltdno it'll be in whatever you booted into10:17
histofried0: How did you mount your hard drive?10:18
aeon-ltdi give up, someone else here can assist on the chroot or remount idea10:18
fried0aeon-ltd: I don't understand what you mean, but I tried making the file in different locations, and it never appeared10:18
fried0histo: it automounted when I booted from live usb10:18
fried0histo:  Do you think unmounting and remounting might give me my sudo permissions somehow?10:19
histofried0: Okay I came in late are you trying to recover files off this drive? I saw you were messing with photorec directories10:19
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fried0histo: I am trying to delete files so the OS on partition can load10:19
fried0histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5557528/10:20
histofried0: okay just type the mount command in a terminal. That will print out the currently mounted partitions10:20
histofried0: pastebin the output of that10:20
histofried0: mount | pastebinit    would give you a hyperlink to share in here. If you have pastebinit installed10:21
fried0histo http://paste.ubuntu.com/5557674/10:21
fried0well I manually did it through the website, but I bet that would be more convenient10:21
histofried0: okay cd /media/1e8ea1f1-4065-414b-8724-c23425fe903e   To get into your root partition10:22
historm to delete files10:22
claudiaciao10:22
histobecarefull as you can really cause problems deleting the wrong stuff.10:22
fried0histo: it will just say I lack permission10:22
claudiadove si scaricano i telefilm10:23
dr_willis!it10:23
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)10:23
histofried0: the other option maybe sudo chroot /media/1e8ea1f1-4065-414b-8724-c23425fe903e and then once you are there sudo apt-get clean  should free up quite a bit of space.10:23
histofried0: You shouldn't get errors the disk is mounted rw10:23
fried0histo: the issue is that it isn't giving me permissions that I need to delete any files10:23
histofried0: please try sudo chroot command above. Let me know if it dumps you back to a prompt without error10:24
fried0histo: It sent me to this prompt "root@ubuntu:/#"10:25
histofried0: okay now    apt-get clean10:25
histofried0: that will remove downloaded cached packages that are stored on the disk.10:25
fried0histo: rather, I know what files I want to remove, I don't need clean to decide, anyway they are files clean is unlikely to decide should be removed10:25
fried0histo: anyway, I recently did a clean, there is nothing left to clean out10:26
histofried0: right clean only removes files from /var/cache/apt10:26
histofried0: df -h   will show you how much freespace there is.10:26
* dr_willis wonders what the %full of the disk is right now10:26
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histofried0: can you paste the output of df -h10:26
fried0histo: Yeah, so I just need to delete these fills that are staring me in the face, how can I do so10:26
fried0dr_willis: 100%10:26
asustf300Ubuntu phone OS release date? pls10:27
histofried0: rm somefilename10:27
histo!phone > asustf30010:27
fried0dr_willis: the OS partition I mean10:27
ubottuasustf300, please see my private message10:27
dr_willisasustf300:  no one knows..10:27
histofried0: another space you can free up is /tmp /var/log/*  to name a few10:27
dr_willisfried0:  its possile theres some file system curruption going on as well.10:27
histofried0: also you can remove old kernels with apt-get purge10:28
dr_willisso removeing some other files  then those video files may help10:28
fried0how do I install pastebin and how do I run that command with pastebin?10:28
asustf300dr_willis thanks as usual want to give it a try on my nexus 4 they have a cradle for the device. :)10:28
fried0Anyway, that command simply said what I already knew, 100% on everything10:28
histofried0: don't install anything now. Since you are chroot it will try and install on the root of your hard drive you are tryign to remove files from10:28
histofried0: you can copy and paste it. Since you are in X to paste.ubuntu.com10:29
asustf300dr_willis whats the latest for ubuntu 13.01 yet?10:29
histo!raring > assu10:29
histo!raring | asustf30010:30
ubottuasustf300: Ubuntu 13.04 (Raring Ringtail) will be the 18th release of Ubuntu, Discussion and support until final release in #ubuntu+110:30
fried0it is 100% on everything, do you really want the exact list? And why are you talking to me in PM? Besides which, I can't figure out how to PM someone in chatzilla10:30
santoshHow to exclude a directory with 'find'?10:30
fried0histo10:30
histofried0: I'm not talking to you in PM10:30
fried0oh10:30
fried0er nm10:30
fried0histo So its 100% all around, you still want the exact output?10:31
histosantosh: -prune10:31
asustf300thanks histo been 6 months since i pulled out my desktop it drains to much power off the wall so I went with energy saving android devices. I cant wait till ubuntu phone OS comes out hopefull I can find a way to make it work on my transformer.10:32
histoasustf300: you can install ubuntu right now in a chroot in android but way outside of me explaining in here. People in #ubuntu-phone may be able to help with it.10:33
histofried0: yes if you can paste.ubuntu.com it10:33
santoshhisto: is this syntax correct? find -prune Desktop/ mysearchstring10:33
claudiaciao10:33
histosantosh: kind of10:34
fried0histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5557700/10:34
histofried0: how'd you fill 46G on /  ?10:35
asustf300histo seen that i can chroot the ubuntu experience to tf300 or Arch Linux. Just not a fan of that much work.  Been there done that with arch linux installs.  Just a matter of time before someone comes up with a bootloader.10:35
fried0histo:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5557528/10:36
fried0Much of it is video files10:36
fried0animes,10:36
santoshhisto: But that doesn't works.10:36
fried0the rest was filled with the photorec data recovery10:36
histoasustf300: pretty much. The issue is having the ability to install a bootloader and drivers for your hardware in your android device. It's going to be a rocky road for a while. They are only really devving for one phone right now.10:36
histosantosh: what are you trying to do with find ?? just print?10:37
fried0histo oh you mean to / specifically? I guess photorec10:37
santoshhisto: Yes, the paths matching 'mysearchstring'10:37
bodsdafried0: are you booted from the flash drive at the moment?10:37
asustf300histo no big deal started with linux in 1994 and look how far we have come. :P  Anyway to buy a ubuntu tv?10:37
dr_willisasustf300:  since they dont exist yet... tht may be hard10:38
fried0bodsda:  Yes http://paste.ubuntu.com/5557528/10:38
asustf300lmao,10:38
bodsdafried0: is your local hdd (the one thats filled) mounted?10:38
fried0bodsda: Yes10:38
bodsdafried0: can you pastebin the output of the following commands for me   'mount'  'sudo fdisk -l'  'df -h'10:39
histosantosh: find . \(-name foo -type d -prune\) mysearchstring10:39
fried0bodsda: It just won't give me permission to do anything with it, including making or deleting files, and deleting some files is all I am aiming to do10:39
asustf300dr_willis and histo your making me start to hate these retail companies. :(10:40
dr_willisfried0:  have you tried fscking that full filesystem yet?10:40
bodsdafried0: ok, the mount command will tell me what permissions the drive is mounted with10:40
histosantosh: you should also 'foo'  sorry forgot the qoutes10:40
dr_willisasustf300:  because you want a produce thaats not even out yet? ;)10:40
fried0bodsda: is the ' part of the command/is that one string? Or are each a separate command?10:40
fried0dr_willis: I don't know what that means10:40
histofried0: no just  rm /path/to/files/you/want/deleted10:41
bodsdafried0: eacha separate command10:41
dr_willisfried0:  that means a through check of the filesystem.. which may be part of the whole issue.. because sudo rm file   should not be givine permission denied erorss on a rw partition10:41
dr_willisfried0:  you dont fsck a mounted filesystem however..10:41
fried0histo you mean just rm with no sudo, while in root?10:41
asustf300dr_willis not even out yet was shown off at ces 2012 for tv and just this year ces 2013 for the phone! What you mean doesn't exsist?10:41
histodr_willis: Who knows what he was actually typing he was copying an pasting10:41
histofried0: yes10:41
histofried0: if you want to delete a directory you will have to use rm -rf /path/to/directory   BE VERY CAREFULL with this10:42
dr_willisasustf300:   what you mean you are suprised at hardware previews that never come out?  wheres my Amiga Based Set top box? ;)   wheres my Raspbery Pi.. oh wait.. i got 2 of those.. ;P10:42
dr_willisasustf300:  i will belive in the ubuntu phone.. when i can go buy one. same for the ubuntu tv.10:42
fried0histo it fails to find the file10:43
fried0histo No such file or directory10:43
dr_willisand i got one of those oxys game consoles preordered on amazon. ;) i will be amazed when it actually ships also.10:43
neirpycIs there a channel specific to Ubuntu on Macs?10:43
silv3r_m00nI need to do some simple editing to ogv videos like cutting out parts of it, what's the best gui tool for it ?10:43
histofried0: can you please paste here what command you are doing10:43
histofried0: only one line not more than 310:43
asustf300dr_willis just put me to work i will build it for free and you can pay me after you collect some money this is how ibm got started.10:44
hehehehis it good to updrage  ? will there ever be problem ?10:44
hehehehupdgraging10:44
fried0histo simple rm then I drop and drag a file to terminal. I have to drop and drag, there are way too many random characters involved not to10:44
dr_willisheheheh:  when in doubt. make backups10:44
bodsdaheheheh: yes, and always a chance10:44
histoneirpyc: msg alis list *ubuntu*mac*10:44
dr_willisfried0:  you still havent understood the use of the tab key?10:44
histofried0: there are no more random characters you are on the / of you drive no more /media/1sxlkclvjkzxcl;vkjal;sdkgasl;dkg10:44
fried0both in the path, and file names10:44
hehehehhow to make backup in ubuntu10:45
histofried0: did you run photorec in your home?10:45
dr_willis!backup |  heheheh10:45
ubottuheheheh: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning10:45
hehehehand what actually get backup ?10:45
DJones!backup | heheheh10:45
bodsdaheheheh: however you want - rsync, cp, tar .. etc10:45
dr_willisheheheh:  what you tell it to10:45
hehehehwhta's the benefit of the latest version ? what get improved ?10:46
histoheheheh: dejadupe  I think was one.10:46
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fried0histo: I you said rm then the path to the file I want to remove, and that path contains crazy random characters, and so do the files I wish to remove10:46
bodsdaheheheh: updated packages10:46
histoheheheh: ? has always been ? nothing improved10:46
bodsdafried0: tab completion10:46
histofried0: please use tab to autocomplete the path. Because obviously your copy and paste is wrong if the file isn't there.10:46
asustf300heheheh watch a youtube video it will speak a thousand words by a single video.10:47
histofried0: if they are in your home. I would cd /home/fried0   then you will see the photorec recup_dir's there10:47
bodsdahisto: I'm guessing he's already chrooted?10:47
histofried0: I have to go but good luck others can help you as your entire issue is do to the incorrect path10:47
histobodsda: yes I helped him do that10:47
bodsdacool10:48
fried0and I will need to move to the directory path the files are in as well, right? Well that also contains crazy random characters, and tab isn't autocompleting those10:48
histobodsda: I have to go if you can help explain.10:48
bodsdahisto: sure thing10:48
neirpychisto, thanks. Only channel on here is dead though. =(10:48
dr_willisdrag and drop will NOT work into a chrooted terminal10:48
histofried0: if you could give an example of your crazy random numbers path? I think you are still thinking of /media/1a;lkjxczl;kvjhal;skdhfgl;askdjfgasl;kdfj  which doesn't exist right now that you are chrooted10:48
dr_willisthe / is different10:48
fried0how do I list directories?10:48
histofried0: ls10:48
dr_willisbbl10:49
bodsdafried0: please run the following command and pastebin the output (I need the line that includes the command your running as well --    ls -lah10:49
scarleoHi, just configured IPv6 on my Ubuntu server but when I try to ping external addresses it tries to ping from my Scope:Link address instead of the Scope:Global address. Does anyone know what might cause this?10:49
histobodsda: he's probably still in / of the chrooted /dev/sda1   which is 100% full so he's trying to delete some recup_dir.1/foo files he filed up his drive with.10:49
histohave to go10:49
asustf300well good night check back in 2 months see if ubuntu has released either the tv or the phone 0S Good Night :P10:50
bodsdahisto: no problem - I just need to find where he is and where the files are first10:50
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bodsdafried0: If you don't paste the output we won't be able to help you10:53
fried0histo: bodsda dr_willis OK I have managed to delete a file from root, but I am not sure10:54
dr_willisnot sure if what?10:54
dr_willisof.10:55
fried0I navigated to the directory, I put rm file name, first time I do so, it goes back to prompt, second time it says the file doesn't exist.10:55
fried0So that suggests I did manage to delete it, yet my free space still says  010:55
dr_willisrounding...10:55
bodsdafried0: that sounds positive - but a single file won't make much difference - can you paste the output I asked for please10:55
dr_willisstart deleting junk10:56
dr_willis;)10:56
fried0bodsda:  That just gives a long list of the files in that directory10:56
bodsdafried0: I know - but if you also show me what directory your in we will be able to give you a better idea of how to free ther space up10:57
fried0dr_willis: OK so how can I delete more files at a time, BTW, tab complete is nearly worthless, too many files all starting with the same characters10:57
bodsdafried0: wildcards -- rm /some/path/thestartoffiles*10:57
dr_willisso  rhey start the same.... so what10:57
Ben64fried0: what files are you deleting?10:57
fried0Ben64: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5557528/10:58
Ben64fried0: thats nice, doesn't really answer the question though10:58
bodsdaheh10:59
fried0bodsda how do I mass delete everything in the directory?10:59
Ben64what directory10:59
bodsdafried0: assuming your in the directory -- rm ./*10:59
neirpycjust rm the directory10:59
Ben64could be very dangerous ^10:59
dr_willisrm -r thedir11:00
Ben64but i guess if you like being enigmatic, thats the best solution11:00
bodsdaBen64: for info - it's a photorec dir that's filled the disk, he's chrooted in atm11:00
dr_willisrm -i  asks befor removeing11:01
bodsdadr_willis: will be kind of annoying for a dir with thousands of items :)11:01
Ben64it'd just be nice to know the directory11:01
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dr_willisrm -i *      then hit y11:01
Ben64instead of doing it in /etc or something11:01
bodsdaBen64: tell me about it -- I've been asking for 20 mins11:01
dr_willis;)11:01
Ben64oh well11:02
lebdronHello. What's the right way to align SSD or flash drive partition? There are too many articles approaching this question in different ways. For example http://linux-howto-guide.blogspot.ru/2009/10/increase-usb-flash-drive-write-speed.html http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16776067 http://blog.oldcomputerjunk.net/2012/fixing-sluggish-write-performance-of-usb-flash-thumb-drives/ blogofterje.wordpress.com/2012/01/14/optimizing-11:02
lebdronfs-on-sd-card/11:02
Ben64lebdron: gparted11:02
dr_willisbbl.11:02
Spirotrying to install 12.04 server from usb keeps asking for CD11:02
lebdronBen64, but it'll probably waste some space in the beginning11:02
bodsdaSpiro: when?11:02
Ben64lebdron: yeah, between 0 and 1MB11:03
Spiroright after language select11:03
fried0Ok, I have deleted the files, and will now try rebooting, please wish me luck11:03
bodsdafried0: good luck11:03
bodsdaSpiro: are you connected to the internet? Did it ask you about software sources?11:04
Spirodriving me mad11:04
Spiroyes connected11:04
fried0Ben64: My apologize BTW, I just don't understand why you care about the particularities of what kind of files I am removing and the names of the folders involved11:04
neirpycfried0, i think it was more as a precaution11:04
fried0I may not be the expert that others here are, but I know as much as to know such doesn't matter11:05
lebdronBen64, so it's the easy way. Is there an "interesting" way?11:05
bodsdafried0: actually, it does matter11:05
fried0if you enter it right, it doesnt11:05
bodsdaSpiro: it's been a while since I did a server install (assume your using the server iso) but did it ask you about software sources?11:05
fried0bodsda: You think it matters if it is "recup_dir.1" or "recup_dir.2"?11:06
Ben64lebdron: you'd have to read those links you posted11:06
SpiroNo I created a bootable usb install11:06
Spirotwice11:06
bodsdafried0: no, but it matters if you're not cd'd to the correct dir and we give you a relative path command instead of an absolute11:06
lebdronI did, they are all different, and I don't seem to follow which one is right.11:06
bodsdaSpiro: 12.10?11:06
dr_willisthere can be issues making a server usb ive seen.11:06
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l057c0d3rhmm..  well come to find out.. after downloading and installing ubuntu/unity11:07
DR01D-Engineerwhat is the xchat command to delay connecting11:07
fried0bodsda: Well I was suppose to directly navigate to the folder anyway11:07
l057c0d3rit was not the gnome online accounts i was having a problem with after all11:07
Spiro12.0411:07
DR01D-Engineerso that you can auto join rooms that require registration?11:07
l057c0d3rit is the ubuntu online accounts...11:07
fried0Ok, restarting and hoping11:07
DR01D-Engineerotherwise it dosn't join those rooms because it attempts to join them before logging you in11:07
Ben64lebdron: from a quick glance, they're all right11:07
l057c0d3ri guess the website url that it points to redirects or something..  causing it to show in a browser rather then the online accounts winodw..11:07
l057c0d3ri was able to get google to open in a browser..  after clicking on a link that would take me away from the login page..11:08
l057c0d3rthat's where i get the redirect idea from11:08
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Spirothere was a problem reading from the cd-rom blah blah blah11:08
bodsdaSpiro: only info I can find is asking for a cd when installing packages after the install, not during11:08
Ben64Spiro: check md5 of iso and/or re-make the usb11:08
l057c0d3rwonder if there is a way i can edit the source of uoa.. or just edit the website it uses and have it to go m.facebook.com instead11:09
l057c0d3rsince that would fix my issue11:09
l057c0d3rsigh.. i just want to be able to use empathy with facebook again11:09
l057c0d3rand after 5 fresh installs....  and a previous computer still working..  i know its the uoa.11:09
Ben64university of arizona?11:10
l057c0d3rubuntu online account mangaer11:10
bodsdaubuntu on android?11:10
bodsdaoh11:10
Ben64you can edit any source you want11:10
Ben64but thats beyond the scope of this channel11:10
Shirakawasunal00pback: it's probably not what you want, but have you tried out pidgin / thunderbird? It's not going to fix your exact issue, bu tmay be just as functional11:11
l057c0d3ri guess the page it points to for facebook has changed in the last few days.... broke two days ago11:11
l057c0d3ri am able to add my facebook acount in the gnome-online-account mangaer.... however i can not get empathy to see them accounts11:11
l057c0d3rand havent even tried to get gwibber to see them....11:11
bodsdal057c0d3r: checked bug reports?11:12
l057c0d3ryep..  two other people in the last 13 horus posted the same bug.. no repsonse11:12
l057c0d3rwhich i under stand11:12
neirpyci second trying another app. pidgin is great with all my chat accounts11:12
bodsdal057c0d3r: unless your going to debug and patch yourself, it looks like you'll have to wait11:12
l057c0d3rtakes a min for them to go through and check everything anyway11:12
neirpyci just wish ubuntu notifications could be clicked on11:13
l057c0d3rwell already did the debuging.. not to patch11:13
l057c0d3rneed to have it directed to m.facebook.com instead....11:13
TLFhello11:13
l057c0d3rany reconmendations on where to go to chat about patching the sourcde myself....11:14
l057c0d3ri know a bit about programming.. and changing a link should be simple enough.. heck fixing gwibber to work with facebook again was a walk in the park.. replace one line with three lines.. good to go11:14
bodsdal057c0d3r: contact the package maintainer or just download the source and have a crack11:15
yown.11:15
baggishi there11:15
baggisfirst time user of ubuntu here :D11:16
yownIts me from before with the files that needed deleting, it worked! thankyou guys11:16
bodsdabaggis: hi :)11:16
baggislooks great this but....i have a question11:16
bodsdayown: well done - glad it's fixed11:16
l057c0d3rright but if i patch it myself.. and then they fix it in the futre..  wont i be stuck with the old version? that i patched11:16
bodsdabaggis: ask away11:16
baggisits looks like my wireless will not work...11:17
l057c0d3rheh sorry..  i programmed in windows..  never really had to deal with package mangaers ext11:17
yownWith those files deleted, it booted just fine, I wonder why it wasn't giving me the permissions though11:17
baggisi have try to get som howtodo but im not understand it or im stubid :P11:17
bodsdal057c0d3r: yes, but then you just remove the package and reinstall -- or better still, submit your patch11:17
yownpeople thought it must have been corrupted system files, but clearly not11:17
bodsdayown: if the system had no free space, it may have been mounted ro11:18
yownbodsda: What is ro?11:18
l057c0d3rright right.... i would love to get involved in helping build the community.. still dont know why they havent patched gwibber with the fix for facebook yet......  it was a simple fix.. figured it would have got added by now11:18
bodsdayown: sorry, read only11:18
bodsdal057c0d3r: submit your patch then11:18
yownbodsda: Why would that be? Wouldn't a live USB not need the HDDs space at all?11:19
l057c0d3rlook where to do that now bodsda11:19
bodsdayown: I wasn't around to see the specifics of mounting the drive, so can't say for sure11:19
moitimit's an english chan ?11:20
bodsdal057c0d3r: if you wrote a patch for a package and the bug still exists, then find the package on launchpad, find the related bug and upload your patch - it will then be reviewed, tested and implemented by the maintainers11:20
bodsdamoitim: this one is, yes11:20
yownbodsda: Nothing to it, it just automounted when the usb flash drive live loaded11:20
MonkeyDust!english | moitim11:21
ubottumoitim: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList11:21
moitimok thanks11:21
l057c0d3rheh k then i was looking in the right place11:21
bodsdayown: without seeing output from 'mount' or looking at fstab I can't say why it mounted read only11:21
yownWell, that was a lesson anyway, don't send files from data recover to the same partition your OS uses11:23
bodsdabaggis: if you let the channel know what wifi card your using, what happens when you try to connect etc. then someone might be able to help11:23
bodsdayown: haha, yeah, don't fill your / :)11:23
baggisthanks well its not working at all i think ubuntu do not recognizing it....11:23
baggis2 sec will see about what card this is11:24
baggiswireless tec is 802.11b/g WLAN11:25
baggisthe computer are hp G5050E011:25
Ben64baggis: pastebin the output of "lspci"11:26
bodsdabaggis: can you open a terminal and use paste.ubunntu.com to paste the output of the command   lspci11:26
baggissure11:26
giuseppe_ciao11:26
bodsdaubuntu*11:26
baggiscopy only about the network info right :P11:27
baggis00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family SMBus Controller (rev 01)11:27
baggis06:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)11:27
baggis08:08.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/813911:27
FloodBot1baggis: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.11:27
bodsdabaggis: use   http://paste.ubuntu.com11:27
baggisoki sorry11:27
baggishttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5557828/11:29
Seven_Six_Twoevery time I start to play a flash video, my master volume goes down a bit, and pcm volume goes up. That's without touching it.11:29
TLFit's anyone having trouble with latest 3.5.0-25 kernel in 12.10 secuirty updates?11:29
MonkeyDustTLF  what kind of trouble?11:30
bodsdabaggis: theres some info from someone who got that card working here - http://askubuntu.com/questions/38327/how-can-i-get-broadcom-bcm4311-wireless-working11:30
baggisthanks11:30
bodsdabaggis: I've got to shoot off, but ask the channel if anything on that link doesn't make sense -- looks somewhat straight forward11:31
yugandharHi, I had "vesamenu.c32: not a COM32R image" error when trying to install the os through USB stick11:33
yugandharplease help me on this11:33
MonkeyDustyugandhar  have you used the md5 checksum? maybe the image is corrupted11:35
Seven_Six_Twois there a way to lock volume so that it can't be changed by a flash video starting?11:35
Noorideenmy pc keeps turning off for no reason!11:35
bodsdaNoorideen: there will be a reason11:35
Seven_Six_TwoNoorideen, every time that happens to me, it's heat. When did you last blow the dust out of the video card and cpu heatsinks?11:36
theadminNoorideen: Sounds like overheating or something like that.11:36
theadminSeven_Six_Two: :)11:36
yugandharMonkeyDust:  I didn't use md5 checksum and how can i do this?11:36
MonkeyDust!md5 | yugandhar11:36
ubottuyugandhar: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows11:36
NoorideenSeven_Six_Two, aegis ago!11:36
Noorideeni will clean it11:37
Seven_Six_TwoNoorideen, temperature rises don't only cause that behaviour, but also shorten the life of the chips substantially.11:37
k1l_Noorideen: ask the mint support, while you are using mint.11:37
Noorideenk1l_, i am not using mint11:38
k1l_ok, you were the last times11:38
Noorideenyes now, but now i am using ubuntu :P.11:38
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k1l_Noorideen: then show into the logs what happend before the pc shut down11:39
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k1l_its not dmesg and syslog, but dmesg.0 ans syslog.111:40
Noorideenk1l_, how can i show the logs?11:40
k1l_in /var/log11:40
Noorideenk11:40
Seven_Six_TwoNoorideen, are you on the pc that shuts down?11:40
NoorideenSeven_Six_Two, yes11:40
DJonesyugandhar: Which version of Ubuntu are you trying to install, I can see a bug listed for that with some version of ubuntu11:40
yugandhar10.04.4 LTS amd64 bit os11:41
k1l_yugandhar: you are sure you want install 10.04? that support ends in april this year11:41
MonkeyDustyugandhar  10.04 will be !eol in a few weeks from now, better not struggle with it11:42
DJonesyugandhar: This is from a Mint forum, but there's similar comments on the ubuntu forums, have a look at post 11 http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-mint-84/trying-to-boot-linux-mint-9-from-usb-flash-drive-vesamenu-c32-not-a-com32r-image-829397/11:42
Seven_Six_TwoNoorideen, I wouldn't waste time with logs when you're risking overheating again, and heat won't show in logs11:42
NoorideenSeven_Six_Two, i will clean the dust right now11:43
JnfnHi there11:43
NoorideenSeven_Six_Two, thank you (:11:43
Seven_Six_TwoNoorideen, np. computers are expensive11:43
jdukietCan anyone recomend a good mp4/avi to dvd converter that I can find in the software center. I am new and still having trouble with apt-get installs?11:43
NoorideenSeven_Six_Two, true11:44
JnfnI've an annoying problem with my ubuntu 12.04 machine11:44
DJonesyugandhar: What version did you create the usb stick on? was it 10.10 or later11:44
MonkeyDustjdukiet  in a terminal, type avconv -i music.mp4 music.avi11:44
Jnfnis this the correct way to have support11:44
Jnfn?11:44
yugandhar10.04 LTS amd64 bit OS11:44
k1l_Jnfn: what problem?11:45
MonkeyDustyugandhar  10.04 is an old version, better install something newer11:45
Seven_Six_Twojdukiet, I like devede11:45
Jnfnwow ok mainly gksudo doesn't wor anymore11:45
Jnfnthe sitation is this11:45
MonkeyDustjdukiet  disregard my comment11:46
yugandharok, But at least it should boot from USB stick.11:46
k1l_jdukiet: devede is an easy to use program11:46
JnfnI use gnome shell with gnome 3 ppa and qseries lts backport ppa11:46
DJonesyugandhar: This one of the threads on the ubuntu forum http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1593656 There's a couple of suggestions in that which may help as well11:46
yugandharHere the problem is why it is not booting from USB stick when i tried to create a  bootable USB stick with the Os 10.04 LTS11:47
Seven_Six_TwoJnfn, can you open a terminal and run gksudo manually?11:47
JnfnI've laready checked everything n forums and so on11:47
yugandharLet me try it DJones11:47
Jnfnyeah it opens the box for passwd and then11:48
Jnfnit print cannot open display11:48
dr_willis!10.411:48
ubottuIts 10.04!!11:48
Jnfnor even just silently do nothing11:48
dr_willissilly bot11:48
Jnfnfor example11:48
Seven_Six_TwoJnfn, have you been messing with display variables or something like ssh or Xnest?11:49
Jnfnno11:49
Jnfnnothing of that11:49
Seven_Six_TwoJnfn, you're on a local machine, and not a text tty?11:49
Jnfnexactly11:50
Seven_Six_TwoJnfn, in other words, you currently have a gui?11:50
Jnfnyed yes11:50
Seven_Six_TwoJnfn, do you have a multi-head setup?11:50
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Jnfnno just mine account, if I understand well11:51
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Jnfnyour question11:51
Seven_Six_TwoJnfn, in a terminal, what does "echo $DISPLAY" without quotes, return? Multi-head is more than one display.11:51
Seven_Six_TwoJnfn, multi-seat might be what you're thinking of.11:52
Jnfn:011:52
baggishi again reboot the system now and hope i fix the wireless now :D thanks again11:53
yugandharDjones: Actually i made a bootable usb stick with 10.04 LTS amd64 bit on ubuntu 11.10 Desktop . is it incompatible?11:53
histoMonkeyDust: 10.04 is still supported11:54
Ben64not for long11:54
Sterkhi I have no unity 3d with ubuntu 12.10 even if I do all this. look on the pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5557881/11:54
DJonesyugandhar: That looks like where the issue is, the usb creator in 10.10 & afterwards has problems creating 10.04 versions11:54
Seven_Six_TwoJnfn, what are you trying to run with gksudo?11:54
Jnfnthere's another strange behaviour like the graphical update manager doesn't ask me a password for updating the system11:54
histo!lts | Ben6411:54
ubottuBen64: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)11:54
Ben64Jnfn: working as intended11:54
Ben64histo: yes i'm quite aware11:55
Jnfneverything like gksudo gedit or gksudo nautilus or unetbootin11:55
Ben64Jnfn: what?11:55
Seven_Six_TwoJnfn, does "gedit" or "sudo gedit" work properly?11:56
Jnfnwith gksudo gedit it says "cannot open display" with gksudo nautilus and unetbootin it just do anything after the box with passwd is prompted11:56
twovsany body can see my chat?11:56
histoSeven_Six_Two: How woudl a multihead display effect gksu?11:56
Jnfnno even sudo gedit it's not working11:56
Seven_Six_TwoJnfn, what's the output when you try that?11:57
SterkAny one?11:57
histoJnfn: What groups is your user in?11:57
Seven_Six_Twohisto, the error is about displays, so the answer would be "many ways"11:57
Jnfn"cannot open display" but sudo nano works11:57
Jnfnfor example11:57
histoHow does root not have permision to :011:58
histoJnfn: So sudo xclock11:58
histofails right?11:58
Seven_Six_TwoJnfn, ok, so you can sudo, but not a gui. do you get errors starting gedit without root privs from terminal?11:58
baggisthanks that work just fine :D11:58
Jnfnhisto every groups of an admin acoount11:58
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histoJnfn: does sudo xclock fail?11:59
Jnfnsst, no errors startig gedit without root privs11:59
Jnfnhisto yes it fails12:00
histoSterk: Wow that script has horrible english and needs fixed.  What ar eyou trying to do?12:00
Ben64Jnfn: echo $DISPLAY12:00
histoBen64: it's :012:00
Ben64:0 or :0.012:00
histohe said :0 earlier12:00
Seven_Six_TwoJnfn, did you change your hostname?12:00
Ben64shouldn't be just :012:01
Jnfnno I didn't12:01
JnfnBen64 it's just :012:01
dr_willis echo $DISPLAY12:01
dr_willis:012:01
dr_willisis all i get here12:01
Ben64weird12:01
histo:0 here12:02
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Jnfnevery xorg package is now under -lts-quantal name12:02
Ben64Jnfn: DISPLAY=:0 gksudo xeyes12:02
Sterkhisto, I want to run unity 3d, I remenber geforce go 7400/7300 was blacklisted under 11.10 and 12.04 so people ended up with Unity 2D. How can I run Unity 3D or how should I do command line gives correct answer. Opensource nouveau driver under Unity for my card works really crappy.12:02
JnfnI mean an update some days ago changed all xorg packages12:02
Ben64Sterk: you probably don't want unity 3d with that video card12:03
Jnfnben64, silently fail12:03
SterkBen64, why? Kwin works perfect with all desktop effects.12:04
Jnfnlike gksudo nautilus12:04
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histoSterk: Do you not want to install nvidia drivers from the repos?12:04
cdavisIn the auth.log, what does p[8] mean in this line? u[sally], d[], p[8]12:05
histoSterk: aparently whatever driver is blacklisted according to the that script.12:06
Sterkhisto, I did and then added x-swat12:06
Ben64GeForce Go 7400 gets a score of 61 passmarks, about half the performance of a geforce fx 590012:06
Ben64to compare to something in this decade, a gtx 550 ti gets 1920 passmarks12:06
Sterkhisto, how can I remove the blacklisted?12:06
SterkLike I said kwin and all desktop effects works smooth, with Ubuntu without closed source nvidia drivers it is crap12:07
histoSterk: did you restart after installing your driver?12:07
twovs 黑底白色 红色的字12:07
Sterkhisto, yes.12:07
jdukietMonkeyDust: Thank you12:08
Seven_Six_TwoJnfn, can you install kdesudo and try that? or maybe xdg-su12:08
JnfnI'll try xdg-su maybe has less dependencies12:09
histoSterk: I'm sure there is a reason it's blacklisted but you can check /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf12:09
k1l_!cn | twovs12:09
ubottutwovs: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw12:09
histok1l_: How can you tell he's typing in chinese12:10
jdukietSeven_Six_Two:  Yeah, I am trying that out now. Thanks12:10
Jnfnthere's no xdg-su12:11
Sterkhisto, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5557904/12:11
fegohisto: you have online translators, :)12:11
babilenJust a note about your cn factoid: It uses traditional characters that are not necessarily understood by Chinese people. They are commonly used in Taiwan and Hongkong though, but people from China might have problems reading it.12:11
histoSterk: what module is currently loaded for your card?12:11
babilenLet me know if you need help to change it to simplified characters.12:12
Jnfnok it's in xdg-utils12:12
Jnfn?12:12
Sterkhisto, lsmod?12:12
histoSterk: lspci -k12:12
k1l_babilen: can you explain that in #ubuntu-ops ?12:12
Jnfnno it's not12:12
Sterkhisto, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5557908/12:13
Jnfnkdesudo requires half of kde!!12:14
babilenk1l_: Sure, no problem.12:14
Jnfnhow to get xdg-su?12:14
ikoniais there such a thing ?12:14
dr_willis!find xdg-su12:14
ubottuFound: libpam-xdg-support12:14
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histoSterk: You are using the nvidia driver does unity not work?12:14
dr_willisi dont think there is a xdg-su command12:14
JnfnI don't think too there's no xdg-su command12:16
maemo900hi guys. need some help. im gonna to download iso of ubuntu(ubuntu.12.04.amd64.iso),its ok im downloading,but there are also file like ubuntu.12.04.amd64.list/metalink/manifest - is they are needed?and what they are - also will read with great pleasure links given from u :)12:16
jdukietok, so while I have someones ear, maybe you can answer something else. I used the my unity config app to tweak my theme. problem is when I reboot the machine, my clock and username disasappear from the desktop. I am still able to select them, they are just not visable. I'm running 12.04 LTS12:17
Sterkhisto, Unity works :), but command line /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p says Unity 3D supported:       no12:17
histomaemo900: nope you just need the iso. You can verify it with md5sum after it's downloaded and compare to the md5 hash on the website12:17
histoSterk: Perhaps there are errors in the script?  Who knows you'd have to look at it and see what it's doing to find out why.12:18
Spirogot it to install, thanks for the help12:18
nearsthii12:18
histoSterk: actually it's a binary file12:18
Jnfnis there another way to debug?12:19
aarferhow come openssh instructions say to rename id_rsa to authorized_keys?   what is the point of adding your own priv key to the authorized ones?12:19
histoSterk: I would look at filing a bug. I'm not sure why it's reporting blacklisted when it isn't.12:19
Spirothanks bodsda and Ben6412:19
maemo900histo, im downloading from ubuntu site, is there need to check with md5 &12:19
maemo900?12:19
histomaemo900: yes to confirm your download is correct and isn't messed upl.12:20
SpiroI had to edit the md512:20
Sterkhisto, maybe I should, I want :) better experience with 13.04.12:20
maemo900histo ok, thanx a lot12:21
Jnfnfor example pkexec works smothley12:21
histoSterk: aare you using 13.04 now?12:21
Jnfnfor the programs it was intended to12:21
Sterkhisto, no, 12.1012:22
histoSterk: Well the app works here as expected but I have a different card.12:22
Sterkhisto, is it possible to make the icon-size 30?12:22
dr_willisSterk:  which icons?12:22
Jnfnbut if I try pkexec gedit it says cannot open display12:22
Sterkdr_willis, unity-launcher icon-size or launcher-size12:23
dr_willisSterk:  the left side panel icons can go from 36 to 24 i recall.12:23
dr_willisone of the setting tools or tweak tools has a slider12:23
Sterkdr_willis, I have unity tweak tool12:24
Sterk:( I cannot12:24
Jnfnit's pretty weird12:24
dr_willisubuntu-tweak12:24
dr_willisdosent even run here.. unsettings has the same setting12:24
dr_willisslider from 32 to 6412:25
Sterkdr_willis, should I try unsetting instead or will it give me same result has unity-tweak-tool?12:25
histoSterk: system settings > appearance adjust the slider at the bottom.12:25
dr_willishow could i know that.. ;)12:25
Sterkhisto, yes only 32 :).12:26
dr_willisunity-tweak-tool also fails to run for me12:26
dr_willisSterk:  the min is 3212:26
dr_willisso guess you cant do it12:27
Sterkdr_willis, :( damn I want smaller then 3212:27
dr_willisSterk:  check askubuntu.com there might be a gconf setting.12:27
dr_willisi dont see how 2 pixles matter12:27
Sterkdr_willis, :) help me find it, I have google but not found anything useful.12:28
Pinuccia!list12:30
ubottuPinuccia: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».12:30
Sterkdr_willis, I have looked to ccsm and also there 32 is min.12:32
ApplesouceHello, I have a small problem that I can't fix. I have a notebook with Ubuntu 12.10 and my Wireless LAN stopped working. It connects to my Router and it says "Connection Established" but I have no network or internet access (I can not even ping my router). The site of my router says, the Notebook is a DHCP-Client, so the router is recognizing my Notebook. The Wireless LAN works on other places, so when I go to my university, eve12:32
ApplesouceAlso my other devices work quite good12:33
stefisabrihi12:34
stefisabri!list12:35
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spongetimsHello, I run aptitude upgrade and after a couple of minutes I got following message: Current status: 69 updates [-1228].12:35
stefisabriok, tks12:35
spongetimsWhere  can I identify the number -122812:36
johnsmithHello. Does Ubuntu include arp* or a similar security measure to prevent arp poisoning?12:37
jribspongetims: aptitude assigns a "score" to the action it wants to take.  That may be it.  Let me see if I can find it in the manual12:38
ApplesouceIs there nobody that could help me with my problem :(12:38
jrib!helpme12:39
ubottuAvoid following your questions with a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !attitude12:39
JnfnI guess no other clues12:39
spongetimsjrib: What do you mean by score? Number of successfully updated packages?12:40
jribspongetims: no, aptitude has an algorithm it uses to assign a number for the action it wants to take12:41
jribspongetims: there are lots of related configuration options talked about here: http://www.algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s04s05.html12:41
melodiehi12:44
Jnfnok anyway thanks to Seven_six_two histo and Ben64 for the effort12:44
melodiecould someone review a short README and tell me if all ok and understandable, please ?12:44
melodiehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/555793212:45
jribaarfer: what directions are y ou referring to?12:45
jribmelodie: what do you actually want to accomplish?12:45
spongetimsjrib: thanks.12:46
melodieI have modified this text which is a readme, and I am not english native, so I would like someone being natively talking english to review it, please. :)12:46
jribmelodie: ##english might be more helpful12:47
melodiejrib I didn't know. this is a short text. do they know linux at ##english ?12:47
melodiejrib it is supposed to make sense to someone who also knows Linux at least as an average user12:48
jribmelodie: they might not know linux, but they should be able to critique your grammar and word choice for example12:48
melodiethere are only a few lines, wouldn't you take a look ?12:49
melodiejrib never mind, I just asked to a buddy on the #unitylinux chan12:49
aarfer<jrib> aarfer: what directions are y ou referring to?         i said that. wrong, i meant the ....pub file. but i understand it now. thanks though.12:55
jribaarfer: no problem, glad you figured it out12:55
santoshCan I change linux username once I created it?13:04
pendekar-galau!info elforkane13:04
ubottuPackage elforkane does not exist in quantal13:04
Jnfnanother info13:06
JnfnI'm in unity 2d now13:06
ronalds_mI removed empathy, on/away and other things still show on in indicator applet, can I remove them?13:06
metaphysicianWhere on Earth does ircd-hybrid log by default? Where should I touch for it to start logging?13:06
ronalds_m(envelope icon)13:06
Jnfnand when I tipe gksudo gedit for example, i have a black screen with just the graphical passwd box and then the always cannot open disply13:07
cristian_cHi13:07
llutzmetaphysician: "man ircd-hybrid"  (-logfile foo)13:07
cristian_cI can't browse from my android device via bluetooth13:08
cristian_cs/from/13:08
cristian_cI've found 'Browse Files on Device'13:08
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cristian_cbut I get an error13:08
ronalds_m"I removed empathy, on/away and other things still show on in indicator applet, can I remove them?"13:10
ubuntu607hello, myy ubuntu install hangs on question install 3rd apps and install updates during install13:10
jdukietSeven_Six_Two: DeVeDe worked out perfect ! Thank you!13:10
cristian_cAny ideas?13:10
ronalds_mubuntu607 what exactly hangs?13:10
ronalds_mubuntu607 you push the button and it hangs?13:11
ubuntu607the round loading bar keeps turning13:11
ronalds_mthen try not pushing them..13:11
ubuntu607the os itself does not hang13:11
metaphysicianllutz: and where is userlog and operlog?13:13
ubuntu607i need to push next to install the os, thats the problem13:13
dryhayhi. there is something wrong with my ibus. could someone check it, please: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=211667313:15
excitoGood day. I was wondering whether it's possible to install ubuntu from within a linux system(elementary OS). I would like to wipe off elementary os completaly,leaving only ubuntu in the process. Asking since I don't have access to usb or live cd atm. Thank you13:15
ronalds_mexcito probably you can't, you can only get unity packages on top of the system, I guess13:17
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ubuntu607any idea?13:18
melodieexcito I know of a solution13:18
TheGreyo/13:18
TheGreyI have a M-audio 2496. In pavucontrol with ICE 1712 selected, I see the input volume jump up and down. But I here no audio..What can I do?13:18
excitoplease melodie13:18
excitowould be much appreciated13:18
melodieexcito you could plugin your hard drive to another machine to make the install13:18
melodieexcito and perhaps one more13:19
melodiedo you have only one primary partition, or more ?13:19
metaphysicianAnd how can run ircd-hybrid (installed from repos) as normal user?13:19
excitoah,not an option unfortunately. I am pretty isolated with only my pc here melodie :D. Any chance it would be possible to transfer the ubuntu iso to another partition and then somehow boot off it?13:19
excitomelodie,only one atm.13:20
Styler2goHey Guys :) I have a Problem with my Server. It seems that some ips are spamming my server and i want to kick ip that have more than a specific amount of requests per minute.. how could i do that?13:20
melodieexcito if you have only one partition there is no solution13:20
excitomelodie,can I create another partition somehow?13:20
melodieif you have an iso inside and boot to it, then if you format the hard drive you will not be able to use the iso you booted from anymore13:20
melodieexcito you can if you have a usb boot or cd boot, or pxe boot then you would need another machine13:21
melodieexcito you might want to try to boot from a Parted Magic iso, if you know how to make a boot from iso.13:22
Styler2gowhere could i ask to get help?13:22
ubuntu607so if i hit next, ubuntu doesnt go further13:22
excitomelodie,know idea. Would using gparted and creating another partition help?13:22
melodieexcito if then Parted magic installs itself to ram, and if the machine has more than 512 MB ram...13:23
excitono idea*13:23
melodieexcito you can't format partitions which are mounted.13:23
excito3gb ddr3,but the video card also shares the ram13:23
excitoI see.13:23
quinceWhen updating using update-manager, I'm getting a hash sum mismatch on http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-image-3.2.0-38-generic_3.2.0-38.61_amd64.deb .  Same on gb.archive.ubuntu.com .  Is it just me?13:23
guangwhen i type win-c,i want to it effects like typing ctrl-c.how can i do?13:23
melodiethis would distroy the content, this is why you are in front of a "no-go" unless you can get all the content of an ISO in the RAM13:23
SanePersonLOL13:24
melodieexcito look at Parted Magic if you can find a way to boot it to ram from an iso. this is the only method I see that could help you get out of trouble13:24
excitowould it suceed,melodie? Currently elementary os is very buggy and boots 1 time out of three,but it's something,than not booting at all13:24
Styler2gohow can i tar multiple directories in one tar?13:25
melodieif so, you could make a new primary partition, or two, and work from there to install a ubuntu distro13:25
excitoI see. Thank you very much melodie, I will look into it and hopefully come up with something. Much appreciated13:25
melodieexcito I didn't say it would succeed, I said it is the only possibility you can explore as you don't have media to start a distro from cdrom or usb stick13:25
turffyhi, I'm using 12.04 and I'm trying to open a xls file using gnumeric seem that its not opening the file but I'm sure file is not corrupted is there a way I can see the log for for the application or any suggestion how to debug it?13:25
m3t4lukashey guys, mysql server does not start on startup. I already did 'update-rc.d mysql defaults'13:26
quinceStyler2go: tar cf foobar.tar foo/ bar/13:26
TheGreyo/ I have a M-audio 2496. In pavucontrol with ICE 1712 selected, I see the input volume jump up and down. But I here no audio..What can I do?13:26
TheGrey 13:26
maman_hi ,, help me please13:26
excitoon the other hand,melodie. Would having a 1gb usb stick work? In that case,I suppose it wouldn't be too costly to buy one13:26
Styler2gothanks13:27
ubuntu607anyone help?13:27
baggisis there any tips and triks to make ubuntu faster on a old hp laptop ? :D13:27
MonkeyDustbaggis  yes, moment13:27
melodieexcito check your bios gui boot section and see if it is likely to boot from USB ? sometimes it's in the "hard drive" section and you have to have a usb stick inserted to see the usb stick ready to boot13:28
yeatsbaggis: you'd need to find out what's slowing it down13:28
MonkeyDustbaggis  first this, but there's more http://howto.wired.com/wiki/Speed_Up_Linux13:28
excitothanks melodie. Will do so and hopefully that'll work. Much appreciated13:29
baggisthanks i must say this irc chatroom replay fast :D good job all13:29
MonkeyDustbaggis  picked this up in this channel http://paste.ubuntu.com/5558101/13:29
ubuntu607anyone?13:30
SanePersoni don't get it. why is this the fullest channel on freenode13:31
baggisthat last one was hard to understand for me, im a rooke :P13:31
MonkeyDustubuntu607  start with a question13:31
quinceubuntu607: I missed your question13:31
ubuntu607ah13:31
ivan__о13:31
ivan__abe-data13:32
ubuntu607my problem is that ubuntu hangs of stops doing the installation, after i hit next on the screen install 3rd party app and updates (with the screen connected to internet ect)13:32
MonkeyDustbaggis  sudo -e /etc/sysctl.conf    then copy/paste the lines from pastebin in it13:32
ubuntu607of = or13:32
baggisthanks13:32
guangctrl-c can interupt a running program,how to change ctlr-c to win-c?13:33
marjinal1sthi, how can i create a new notebook in tomboy?13:33
AbhiKMonkeyDust, how do i connect this channel http://paste.ubuntu.com/5558101/ ??13:33
MonkeyDustAbhiK  not sure what you mean, it's not a channel13:34
AbhiKu said so!13:34
AbhiK<MonkeyDust> baggis  picked this up in this channel http://paste.ubuntu.com/5558101/13:34
baggissomeone is trolling here :P13:35
MonkeyDustAbhiK  'this channel' is the one we are in now, #ubuntu13:35
AbhiKsorry i'm just a starter13:36
marjinal1sthow can i create a new notebook in tomboy?13:36
ubuntu607get the question?13:37
boolI have installed openssh-server and have set up port-forwarding correctly on my router, but when I try to connect with ssh from an extern computer, I get "Connection refused"13:37
boolI have tried googling the connection refused message, but I just get stupid suggestions as installing the ssh server and disabling firewall.13:38
yeatsbool: can you ssh to the machine from within your LAN?13:38
odraHey13:38
odraWhat is this "odra@Desktop" that shows in the terminal?13:39
odraAnyway to change it?13:39
boolyeats, yes, i can13:39
DJonesodra: The "odra" is your user name and the "Desktop" is the name you gave the machine during installation13:40
yeatsodra: see this: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-linux-unix-bash-shell-setup-prompt.html there are many many more pages like it13:40
boolyeats, I have configured ssh to use a different port than 22. is it possible that the router still blocks ssh connections?13:40
odraDJones: That sounds awkward.13:40
yeatsbool: then I would consult your router's documentation for troubleshooting13:40
odraIf I named my machine "desktop" I would have desktop atop of a desktop13:40
yeatsbool: yes - your router might not be able to configure alternate ssh, but that's why I would direct you to the docs for your router13:41
ubuntu607and?13:41
boolyeats, hmm ok, thanks13:41
yeats!hostname | odra13:42
ubottuodra: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hosts to include BOTH the old and new hostname and then change /etc/hostname to the new one. WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly.13:42
SanePersondu schwein! dir schenk ich reinen wein ein13:42
oprhow can i tell what is making my mouse/keyboard/wm lag? iotop is only showing me disk usage and that's not the cause13:44
ubuntu607?13:46
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quinceubuntu607: what do you mean by "the screen connected to internet"?13:47
ubuntu607install boots up.. then choose language, then you see screen to install ubuntu..13:48
ubuntu607the one with connected to internet, enough hd space.. 3rd party software.. install update during install ect13:49
ubuntu607click next... ubuntu stops13:49
oprleave it for a while it takes some time13:50
ubuntu607doesnt work13:50
oprhow long have you waited13:50
yeatsubuntu607: do you have external drives attached?13:50
ubuntu6072 hours13:50
ubuntu607wth xubuntu13:50
ubuntu6072 hour with lubuntu13:50
ubuntu60720 mintues with ubuntu13:50
yeatsubuntu607: the *buntus are all the same in this regard, so that shouldn't make a difference13:51
ubuntu607no external drives attached, expect the pendrive with the ubuntu install files13:51
yeatsubuntu607: can you look at /var/log/syslog to see if there are any message about it?13:51
melodiemay I ?13:51
yeatsmelodie: eh?13:51
melodieubuntu607 is the network working ? Could you boot to the live session and check with a ping ?13:52
melodieyeats lately under some circumstances I met with issues related to resolv.conf and I had to create one by hand13:52
ubuntu607internet/network is working in all buntus, live mode also13:52
melodieubuntu607 all versions ?13:53
quinceubuntu607: how did you verify that?13:53
ubuntu607all versions i mentioned i mean, xubuntu 12.10, xubuntu 12.04 alternate, ubuntu 12.10 and lubuntu 12.1013:53
yeatsmelodie: ok - I was just thrown by "may I?" ;-)13:54
hero616you can install it more quickly without internet connect13:54
melodieyeats no problem13:54
melodiehero616 +113:54
laboratorio45ciao13:55
quinceubuntu607: I don't use the graphical installer and I'm not sure what stage it failed at.  Still, you may be able to switch to a virtual terminal with ctrl-alt-<press a low-numberred function key> .  Hit return and you'll get a shell (command prompt) if you're lucky.  Then you may have a chroot (google it) or a half-done install, and people here may be able to guide you to finding out what went wrong.13:55
yeatsquince: no need for all that to find out what went wrong - syslog should tell you that13:56
schlitzerhey all, i want to enable tcp listen for libvirt. but it seems when i add "--listen" to libvirtd_opt in /etc/init/libvirt-bin.conf it is ignored13:56
ubuntu607when i did the alternate install of 12.04 It also stops installing after choosing language13:56
ubuntu607that was a non gui install13:56
schlitzeris this the wrong way to do this in ubuntu?13:56
hero616bypass the update process13:57
schlitzerlibvirt itself is configured correctly. if i start libvirt manually with "libvirtd -d --listen" the tcp port is opened13:57
quinceubuntu607: I'm not saying the gui install is the cause.  Just that I'm not sure where your install failed.14:01
quinceyeats: if the GUI is hung, how do you see syslog?14:02
_JuJuBeeI can't get my dhcp server (isc-dhcp-server) to start.   syslog shows..  http://pastebin.com/HgpuSfmp14:02
quinceyeats: does the GUI show you syslog, in fact?14:02
_JuJuBeeI have set eth1 in /etc/default/isc-dhcp-server as the listen interface and have a subnet in my dhcpd.conf file14:03
mark_dltHi all, Im new to this IRC chat, but I have made a switch from Microsoft to Ubuntu Linux and I like it.14:03
quincemark_dlt: myself, I hate all computers ;-) but at least Ubuntu is relatively free14:04
mark_dltyes and the other thing to that is what microsoft are doing to there Office suit14:05
MonkeyDustmark_dlt  this is the support channel, maybe you ant to join #ubuntu-offtopic14:05
MonkeyDustwant*14:05
quincethe old days of the frontier when men were real men are gone though.  I no longer have to rewire my mouse for middle click  to work...14:05
mark_dltok14:05
mark_dltsorry14:05
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Styler2gowhat does ipconntrack tell me?14:07
_JuJuBeeAnyone help with dhcp server?14:08
SanePersonadhd means insane. i'm here to convert you all to sane14:08
MonkeyDustSanePerson  stop spawning random comments14:08
quincefor all those of you eagerly hanging on for the solution to the problem I came on here with: it turned out I apt-cacher-ng was caching a bad file, causing the checksum mismatch.  I stopped using apt-cacher-ng, and my  update now works.  I think there are known race conditions in the archive system that caused the bad file.14:08
yeatsquince: unless the gui is truly hung, you can either open a terminal emulator or do Ctrl-Alt-F1(through F6) to get to a tty14:09
SanePersonMonkeyDust: i can't14:09
sampleeeproblem with evolution here. whenever a mail that consists of html is beeing displayed, evolution asks me to accept the ssl certificate. those certificates are allways declared as "bad".14:10
quinceyeats: right.  I guess I wasn't clear: that was what I was trying to suggest doing.  I didn't know that in the GUI installer you could just start a terminal emulator though -- nice!14:10
yeatsquince: Ctrl-Alt-T will do it14:11
quince_JuJuBee: did I miss your dhcpd.conf pastebin?  I only see the syslog14:12
ikonia_JuJuBee: please don't cross post your questions, you know this14:13
nearstsup ppl14:14
BluesKajHey all14:19
Squid_¡14:21
jeatonanytime I minimize xchat to the tray, the program disappears completely from my desktop, but the process continues to run14:22
jeatonit's not a zombie process by any means, anyway, is there anyway of pulling up that process in ubuntu?14:22
spajderixHi14:24
aarferjeaton,  did you try the ol command ps ax | grep xchat14:25
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aarferspajderix,  1757 people in here aren't gonna be saying 'hi' back to ya...14:25
aarferheh14:25
Azert1757 people?14:26
oprthat's how many users were in the channel14:26
Azertnot to mention people that read irc log from email14:27
oprwhat are you on about mate14:27
dryhayhi. there is something wrong with my ibus sometimes. could someone check it, please: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=211667314:28
Azertthe hole world is here potentially14:28
Azertwhole*14:28
BluesKajwhole world14:28
roastedDid Ubuntu remove the little X for closing windows when you're viewing them in the overview/thumbnail mode? Or am I just somehow missing them? (12.04)14:28
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oprazert yes, but they aren't in realtime14:29
Azertso how many useres are here in reall time?14:30
opr175914:30
[deXter]4214:30
Azertnot if they are afk14:30
oprthey might come back at any second and see it though14:31
bekksThat doesnt make them non-real users.14:31
Azertsure14:31
Azertmore likelly half a dozen people and the rest irc bots14:32
roastedWhen you have multiple windows of the same type open and you click that icon more than once in the unity bar, it goes into taht gnome shell oriented overview mode. Does that have an official name?14:32
bekksAzert: Do you have a specific Ubuntu related support question?14:32
Azertdo you have one bekks ?14:32
roastedAzert: this channel is for Ubuntu support, where people either ask questions or help others by answering questions.14:33
jeatonaarfer, what do I do after that14:33
Azertho really14:33
bekks!ot | Azert14:33
ubottuAzert: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!14:33
Azerti thought it was for finding details about the users14:34
oprplease don't be silly azert14:34
roastedHelp me out here.. was I supposed to laugh?14:34
OerHeksjeaton, maybe this answer is any help >>> http://askubuntu.com/questions/157966/where-is-x-chat-when-it-is-minimized-to-tray14:35
Kroachroasted: it's the Compiz scale effect, it's not related to gnome shell at all14:35
roastedKroach: I see. Now there's supposed to be a close icon (X) over top of each window that you hover over when in that mode, is there not?14:36
* Azert handles roasted a nextpress014:36
roastedAzert: I'm not good at the online pretending thing, but thanks.14:36
jeatonOerHeks, no help, i found that awhile back and it doesnt show up in the message indicator, even if I do install the plugin14:37
Kroachroasted: I don't think the 'x' was there, it's in gnome shell activities overview which looks similar14:37
jeatonnow when I install the plugin, I have xchat in the indicator at all times, but it opens up a new process each time I click it14:37
roastedKroach: are you on Unity right now?14:38
spajderixI'm using ubu 12.10. Trying to add fb account to empathy chat. Window opens up saying Please authorize Ubuntu to use facebook account. Nothing happens in that window after that and a webpage gets opened in firefox saying only Success. Does anybody know how to fix this?14:38
Kroachroasted: I'm normally using Unity on my pc, now I'm on my phone14:39
jeatonanyway, I accepted it's a bug and it won't appear in my tray bar or message indicator14:39
jeatonbut is there anyway I can open up the process14:40
Kroachroasted: you may want to check scale plugin settings in ccsm to see if the option you want is there14:40
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roastedKroach: I just fired up my desktop (also 12.04) and I don't see the close button there either. Perhaps I had been mistaking the entire time?14:41
otakspajderix: someone was here earlier with the same problem, seems like facebook have changed their authentication address or something14:42
roastedKroach: it was this sort of view in Unity I thought each window had an X in the corner, for what it's worth - http://www.dedoimedo.com/images/computers_new_2/gnome-shell-multiple.jpg14:42
yeatsroasted: it does in 12.10, but not 12.0414:43
L3top!info i965-va-driver > ikonia14:43
roastedyeats: is that due to different Unity versions from 04 to 10?14:43
yeatsroasted: although it also does in gnome shell (which is what your screenshot is)14:43
Kroachroasted: this screenshot is from an early version of gnome shell14:44
roastedKroach: I know. I was just bringing it up for comparison so it was understood what I was referring to.14:44
yeatsroasted: I don't know specifically, but I would guess so14:44
roastedyeats: I wonder if it's possible to get in 12.04... I'm hanging on to 12.04 for quite a while :/14:44
yeatsroasted: I would just upgrade to 12.10 if it were me14:44
roastedyeats: not on work systems...14:45
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* yeats does so on work systems too14:45
roastedyeats: I'd sacrifice that little feature and stay on 12.04 in a heartbeat.14:45
yeatsroasted: yeah - that's the trade off - you don't get the new-release goodness14:45
roastedyeats: did you do an upgrade from 12.04, or was it a fresh install?14:46
Kroachroasted: check scale plugin settings in ccsm, an option to turn this on may be in there14:46
yeatsroasted: I've done both14:46
roastedyeats: no issues with the upgrade?14:46
roastedKroach: I will, thanks much!14:46
yeatsroasted: nope - but keep backups ;-)14:47
filesunknownWould this be a good place to get suggestions on why some wine games are running slow even with gold status?14:47
roastedyeats: nightly rsync of data and monthly clonezilla of images on each system in this house my friend ;)14:47
yeatsfilesunknown: try #winehq14:47
yeatsroasted: excellent - then nothing to worry about14:48
filesunknownI am starting to wonder if it is a slow cpu causing it. even though in windows the game runs max settings14:48
aarferhas anyone been able to use a griffin powermate in ubuntu?14:48
filesunknownThanks14:48
KatronixHi all, setting up a new Ubuntu web server, and hoping to find out the right packages I need. I would like apache to be able to handle web pages regardless of who owns them, and also allow scripts like WordPress to be able to handle editing their own files. Can anyone give suggestions?14:48
yalehello14:48
aarferyale. hi. how can we serve you?14:49
CrossedWireHello all.  I'm having a bit of a problem with wifi passwords being rejected for...no reason.14:49
nearst!patience14:49
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/14:49
CrossedWireWell, of course there is a reason!14:49
nearstwifi passwords?14:51
aarferthat's what he said...14:51
KroachCrossedWire:does it happen on all networks?14:51
gafhello, I was reading this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases , and it says lucid 10.04 will have support till 2015?14:51
CrossedWireYeah, I brought my laptop home and when I fired it up this morning it just kept asking for the password to my wifi...which my other box and my phone are on.14:51
nearstgaf, depends if ur update-release setting to lts or normal14:52
CrossedWireYesterday it was fine.  Last night at work it was fine.14:52
CrossedWireThis morning it just keeps asking and asking.14:52
gafnearst, idk what do you mean14:52
roastedCrossedWire: go into your network preferences. Delete the current wifi entry for your router so nothing of your router is in there. Then select it from the list again and connect manually.14:52
nearsttry reboot then14:52
yeats!10.04 | gaf14:52
ubottugaf: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) was the twelfth release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1004 - Supported until April 2013 (Desktop), April 2015 (Server)14:52
MakiAtoCrossedWire: some one is spoofing your SSID14:52
yeatsnearst: 10.04 is an LTS release14:53
nearstCrossedWire, or it try to get your handshake packet :D14:53
gafoww, so it will be over on desktop but supported on the server? I was thinking would be the end in 2013 for all of them, :/14:53
KroachMakiAto:rather his MAC14:53
nearstit would be safe with do-release-upgrade ;c14:54
Katronixcan anyone help?14:54
gafso 10.04 all the way till 2015?hurayyyyy14:54
CrossedWireRoasted that was a no go...MakiAto were that the case how would my windows box and phone be connected?14:54
KroachKatronix: state your question and we'll see14:54
yeats!behelpful | MakiAto14:54
ubottuMakiAto: As our !guidelines say, "When helping, be helpful". If you're not familiar with the issue at hand, let someone else handle it instead of making !offtopic comments or jokes.14:54
KatronixHi all, setting up a new Ubuntu web server, and hoping to find out the right packages I need. I would like apache to be able to handle web pages regardless of who owns them, and also allow scripts like WordPress to be able to handle editing their own files. Can anyone give suggestions?14:54
nearstKroach, ya.. u should disconnect to your network while getting mon1 into monitor mode :). unless have another wireless chipset on14:54
CrossedWireWait a second oh ho14:55
CrossedWireThose are on the WirelessN14:55
KooodariMoi14:55
KooodariSorry14:55
KooodariWrong window14:55
CrossedWireThe laptop is only G14:55
KatronixKroach there you go :)14:55
yeatsgaf:  beginning with 12.04, both desktop and server are supported 5 years (afaik)14:55
CrossedWireOkay so if someone is spoofing that...what do?14:55
jrtappersIs there an open source equivelent to 2D design by techsoft?14:55
yeatsCrossedWire: don't listen to MakiAto - (s)he's trolling14:56
MakiAtoso is CrossedWire14:56
CrossedWireActually I'm not...14:56
aarferwhat is the command to show what the release name is of your distro?   it's something like lsb_release or something like that...14:57
nearstlsb_release -a14:57
aarferdon't listen to yeats, he's trolling.14:57
CrossedWireYesterday morning--no problem Last night at work--no problem  This morning...won't accept password.14:57
nearstmy oneko is cutting running for  my mouse14:57
yeatsaarfer: anyone who knows me from this channel knows I don't troll14:57
MakiAtoor maybe you excell at it14:58
aarferi'm just kidding yeats.14:58
aarferhahah. good point MakiAto14:58
ikoniait's not funny14:58
yeatsaarfer: humor doesn't really translate in this medium - try to stay on topic14:58
ikoniaaarfer: do not try to bad mouth people in the channel.14:58
aarferyou help for a long time and then switch to troll mode. hahah.14:58
gafthe good troll is the troll that keeps trolling without raising too much anger, so he stay in the channel...the art of trolling....14:59
jrtappersWhat is a the best software for drawing schematics in ubuntu?14:59
aarferyou kick with no warning?14:59
ikoniaaarfer: you had a warning - you continued14:59
ikoniaaarfer: stop it.14:59
Katronixis there a better channel to be in for help with Ubuntu web servers?14:59
aarferthere is lag you know....14:59
KroachCrossedWire:have you already tried deleting the connection and trying again?14:59
yeatsKatronix: #ubuntu-server?15:00
Katronixyeats thanks15:00
ikoniaaarfer: are you using debian or ubuntu15:00
aarferikonia,  right now i'm on crunchbang. but my main computer is ubuntu.15:01
aarferikonia,  how come?15:01
ikoniaaarfer: oh, I'm confused as you are asking the same questions in #debian suggesting you are using debian15:01
nearstcrunchbang is debian. unless ure using 9 release. they still ubuntu15:02
decciHello All15:02
aarferi just did because the questions i had would be the same thing on debian or ubuntu or linuxmint. i wasn't getting a response in here.   :)15:02
decciHopw you all are doing good15:02
ikoniaaarfer: yeah, so you're breaking the rules of #debian too. not good.15:02
nearst*ethic15:03
decciI am trying to install Clonezilla on Ubuntu 12.04.1. I need to install Windows Xp on all the 10 client machines. I am aware of DRBL and clonezilla installation but I still have no idea how to configure for Windows Images15:03
aarferso if i am running ubuntu, i am not allowed to go into debian and as them how i might configure gedit?15:03
ikoniaaarfer: correct, check the /topic in #debian, but we are moving off this channels topic15:04
decciI am following http://geekyprojects.com/cloning/setup-a-clonezilla-server-on-ubuntu/15:04
decciBut it doesnt explain how to do for Windows Images15:04
nearstdecci, try using norton-ghost. clonezilla would be slowww im guess.:P15:04
deccinearst: I just need to setup through Clonezilla15:05
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yeatsnearst: clonezilla is actually very good (and F/LOSS)15:05
ikoniadecci: contact either clonezilla support resources, or the people who wrote that guide15:05
yeatsdecci: it takes an image of the full disk, so you don't have to worry about which OS is running15:05
user575123i installed bumblebee on ubuntu 12.10 and programs started with 'optirun' eats my cpu very much. Anybody help?15:06
nearstyeats, ya. just guessing that :)15:06
yeatsnearst: not helpful15:06
jrtappersWhat is a the best software for drawing schematics in ubuntu?15:06
aarferok ikonia gotcha.  next time i'll ask ubuntu questions from my debian computer.15:06
decciyeats: Do I need to place Windows complete image under some folder like /clonezilla15:06
aarferooops. sorry, i meant ubuntu questions from my ubuntu computer and deb questions from my debian computer. heh.15:06
ikoniaaarfer: it doesn't matter what OS your computer running, but that you ask questions about the OS you have the problem with15:07
yeatsdecci: I would do what ikonia suggests and ask in a clonezilla venue15:07
|UsQUE|hi all15:08
|UsQUE|got some weard issue in cups, I want to print PDF file on my Windows PC to cups server but seems not to print the pdf files.. when I print other files like word or txt they all work :S15:08
aarferi have 7 hard drives in my computer, i just installed ubuntu on one of them, (one of the hard drives is a SSD) it installed just fine. but after when i boot, it (the SSD with the OS) shows as sdg  is there a way to make it show up as sda? or is it too late for that?15:08
|UsQUE|anyone any clue whats going wrong,15:08
|UsQUE|?15:08
|UsQUE|and cups logs are empty15:09
Dra|nhi15:09
gafif i have a server 10.04 and a desktop 12.04. would i find too much deifferences when installing ppa's and otherpkgs?15:09
ikoniagaf: differences ? in what15:09
gafin versions, idk15:10
ikoniagaf: you can't share versions15:10
Dra|ngat imposible!15:10
ikoniagaf: PPA's are version specific15:10
user575123programs started with bumblebee (optirun) eats cpu very much. Anybody knows how to fix it?15:10
BluesKajgaf, you cvan't mix release version ppas/packages15:10
gafmm, ok15:11
aarferikonia,  so, when i upgrade to 13.04 the upgrader will upgrade the virtualbox ppa to whatever 13.04 is called right?15:12
ikoniaaarfer: no15:12
ikoniaaarfer: you need to disable PPA's before upgrading15:12
aarferikonia,  i'll have to del and add a new ppa?15:12
aarferok.15:12
ikoniaand you should consider removing any PPA/3rd party software before upgrading15:12
jrtapperscan I check grub-reboot options easily, or enable a debug mode? I want to see if it was set without rebooting15:13
ikoniajrtappers: not really15:13
nick07hello my ubuntu stops during install, i have log file which like to be in a loop15:14
nick07maybe anyone can trace the error in the logfile to find the problem?15:15
nick07this is the error, which loops continu15:16
nick07http://paste.ubuntu.com/5558399/15:16
applequit15:19
appleq15:19
nick07anyone any idea?15:20
compdocnick07, which ubuntu?15:22
nick0712.1015:22
compdocstalling at install seems to be a common issue15:22
|UsQUE|is it possible to extend the existing filesystem EXT4 without losing data ?15:22
Dra|nsure15:23
nick07can i do something about it?15:24
|UsQUE|Dra|n, how?15:24
|UsQUE|:)15:24
offenderhi everyone! burn all jews in oven!15:25
offenderburn all jews in gas oven15:25
Dra|nwell ur main task wold be15:25
yeats!ops | offender15:25
ubottuoffender: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici,  jpds,  gnomefreak, bazhang,  Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, bkerensa, nhandler, Jordan_U, DJones or k1l!15:25
offenderburn all jews in GAS oven15:25
compdocnick07, you can try 12.04. But there may be bios options that are messing it up too15:25
Dra|nthat you have to read some at google.com15:25
nick07i tried alternate 12.04, same issue15:26
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compdocnick07, is the sceen going blank? does it seem to keep installing15:26
compdocSetting locale failed - seems an odd error15:27
nick07no not black, the little round loading logo is keeping turning.. the log file looks like to be in a loop, the OS is not freezed. I can abort and use the live mode if i like15:27
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sam123Is there a good safe over-Internet Windows-to-Linux remote desktop program?15:28
compdocnick07, do you have it connected to the internet?15:28
nick07yes15:28
nearstsam123, try remmina15:29
nick07have you seen my log file?15:29
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compdocyes, but means nothing to me because Ive never seen it before. If that occured I would google the error.15:31
compdocDoes your mainboard have UEFI bios?15:31
blezsomeone worked with xdotool?15:32
mmmbudyo15:35
mmmbudall my youtube videos are blue15:35
mmmbudi take it somthing is up with flash15:35
Dra|nnice man15:35
Dra|nthats 5D15:35
Dra|ngot glasses for it ?15:36
blezwhat's the channel for X development?15:36
k1l_mmmbud: which ubuntu, which video driver?15:37
nic013anyone using globe tattoo prepaid here??15:38
otakthere is #xorg15:38
mmmbudk1l_,15:40
mmmbudnvidia15:40
nic013anyone using globe tattoo prepaid here??15:40
k1l_nic013: is there a ubuntu support question behind that?15:41
k1l_mmmbud: again: which ubuntu? which video driver is in use? that should be fixed alot time ago15:42
nic013uhm...i just wanna know if there's anyway I can subscribe to my ISP's promos without removing the sim  card and putting it in my phone15:45
k-stzhello i installed 12.04 just now and when i boot i get "boot sector error, no os installed" and it loops like this, BUT when I use livecd and choose the entry "boot from harddisk" i get into the fresh install..?15:45
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compdock-stz, is there more than 1 hdd in the system?15:46
glphvgacsis uxterm the same as xterm?15:47
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k-stzcompdoc: yes the other one has windows on it15:47
k-stzalso after i choose the livecd entry i get into grub and it  shows it all properly15:48
MakiAto#windows-legacy15:48
compdock-stz, its possible grub is writing to the wrong drive. Or that you have a UEFI bios15:48
BluesKajmmmbud, in a terminal , glxinfo | grep OpenGL  ,  the line with "OpenGL version string: ...shows the driver . you'll probly need to install mesa-utils for the glxinfo command to work15:48
nic013uhm...i just wanna know if there's anyway I can subscribe to my ISP's promos without removing the sim  card and putting it in my phone15:49
glphvgacswhere is the config file for wallpaper?15:50
jribglphvgacs: It's probably stored in dconf; why?15:50
tvoss#phablet15:50
glphvgacsjrib: i want to change it15:51
funnyhi15:51
jribglphvgacs: can't you right click on the desktop and access the settings that way?15:51
karansacHi everyone15:51
k-stzcompdoc: ok check this out: If i use the bios boot menu, it only shows the dvd-drive15:51
glphvgacsjrib: yes, thanks15:51
mohamedcan anyone please help me setup my canon printer on ubuntu15:52
compdock-stz, is windows version 8?15:52
jrib!print | mohamed15:52
ubottumohamed: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu15:52
k-stzcompdoc: no its a xp and only for gaming15:52
glphvgacsjrib: do you know how i can change xterm's setting so it doesn't blink bold fonts?15:52
k-stzcompdoc: sata 1=winxp, sata2=ubuntu12.0415:53
karansacI did a backup of my files on an external HDD before reinstalling. But after fresh install, there seems to be a charset problem with thoses files.15:53
karansacTheir names appear with strange characters. Do you have any idea how I could solve this?15:53
jribglphvgacs: no I don't know about that15:53
compdock-stz, I would try disconnecting the windows drive and see what happens15:53
k-stzcompdoc: yes you got it15:53
nearst:)15:54
mmmbudblueskaj: ubuntu 13.0415:55
mmmbudOpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation15:55
mmmbudOpenGL renderer string: GeForce 8400 GS/PCIe/SSE215:55
mmmbudOpenGL version string: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 310.3215:55
mmmbudOpenGL shading language version string: 3.30 NVIDIA via Cg compiler15:55
mmmbudOpenGL extensions:15:55
FloodBot1mmmbud: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.15:55
compdocmmmbud, tmi15:55
mmmbudoops i realised straight away15:55
mmmbudsorry15:56
BluesKajmmmbud, that's the same nvidia card and driver that i use ..I'm on KDE without any graphics prtoblems at all15:56
glphvgacsjrib: is there a documnetation for that?15:58
mmmbudhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5558538/15:58
k1l_mmmbud: since ubuntu 13.04 is still in development use the #ubuntu+1 channel please15:58
jribglphvgacs: for what?  Your font issue?  Can you describe in more detail what you are seeing?  Is it with every program in your shell?  Did it happen by default?  Does it happen with other terminals (like gnome-terminal)?15:59
BluesKajmmmbud, and I'm also running 13.04 , but the 12.10 install is problem free as well15:59
nic013uhm...i just wanna know if there's anyway I can subscribe to my ISP's promos without removing the sim  card and putting it in my phone?16:02
jribnic013: how is this related to ubuntu?16:03
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sam-palmisanohi16:04
sam-palmisanohi boys16:04
makarahi. Where can I ask about sound editing?16:04
sam-palmisanohi makara16:05
makarahi16:05
DragenHello everyone, can I ask for help here?16:06
sam-palmisanoanyone knows how to add themes on ubuntu?16:06
theadminDragen: Only if it's related to Ubuntu16:06
DragenDoes Lubuntu count?16:07
theadminsam-palmisano: MyUnity provides that capability.16:07
theadminDragen: Yep16:07
DragenGreat.16:07
sam-palmisanotheadmin .., where is it available??16:07
theadminsam-palmisano: The Software Center, of course, where else do you get apps :P16:08
imarks#ubuntu-phone16:08
imarkshow do you switch channel?16:08
BluesKajmmmbud, have you opened the Nvidia Xserver Settings app and checked the DFP-O colour correction settings ?16:08
theadminimarks: /join #ubuntu-phone16:08
k1l_imarks: /join #channelname16:08
DragenI'm trying to download and install LibreOffice, they say there are specific ways of doing so on different distros, but how do I do it? I've heard stuff about Software Center but I can't find it on Lubuntu.16:08
imarksoke thx16:08
sam-palmisanotheadmin.., thank you buddy :)16:09
k1l_Dragen: "sudo apt-get install libreoffice"?16:09
DragenI just copy and paste it into the command line?16:09
theadminDragen: I'm not sure why you can't find the SC, it's there on all Ubuntu versions, but you can easily do this via the terminal: sudo apt-get install libreoffice-{base,writer,calc,impress,math,draw}16:09
k1l_Dragen: i am not sure if software-center is in lubuntu as standard16:09
DragenI'll try then.16:09
theadminDragen: You can install software-center via apt-get too, but Lubuntu should come with it...16:10
DragenOn the start button (or w/e it's called here) which category do I find it in?16:11
theadminIs there a way to get Java (Swing) menus to integrate with globalmenu without recompiling them?16:11
theadminDragen: It'd be logical if it's in "System".16:11
DragenOh, I found it now. :P16:11
DragenThank you16:11
code_ph0yhey guys can someone tell me a program/tutoral on using svn?16:12
mmmbudblueskaj its only a blue tint on flash vids16:12
jribDragen: http://subversion.apache.org/docs/16:12
DragenWhat is that?16:13
jribcode_ph0y: http://subversion.apache.org/docs/16:13
theadminjrib: Mistab. code_ph0y: See the link jrib gave16:13
jribDragen: wrong nick :)16:13
code_ph0ythanks!16:13
DragenOK16:13
theadmincode_ph0y: You could go the Ubuntu way and use Bazaar, too, it's svn-compatible.16:13
mmmbudthis is prettymuch the first time ubuntu has worked for me16:14
k1l_mmmbud: like i said before: 13.04 is still in developing. so better ask in #ubuntu+1 since this is not a regular issue on ubuntu16:14
mmmbudok thanks i had it in 12.04 aswell16:15
DragenSo what programming language does this "LXTerminal" use?16:15
theadminDragen: Bash is the default shell in Ubuntu.16:15
DragenWhich means that's what used when typing in it?16:16
theadminDragen: Pretty much.16:16
DragenOr maybe that's not considered programming16:16
DragenOh ok16:16
theadminDragen: Well, it's not exactly programming, yeah.16:16
DragenWhat is it then? Commanding, perhaps?16:16
BluesKajmmmbud, then you probly need a flash update/upgrade or your browser flashplugin is misbehaving16:16
FiraHey :D I got unsatisfiable cross-dependancies that prevents from installing/upgrading/removing anything :(... What can I do to get rid of them ?16:17
theadminDragen: Scripting, I suppose.16:17
FiraApt advises running install -f but this results in roughly the same thing : impossible cross version requirements and no change16:17
DragenOkay16:18
FiraI can't even use remove -f to get rid of packages regardless of deps to reinstall everything16:18
FiraSo what now ?16:18
k1l_Fira: can you pastebin the "apt-get install -f" with output?16:19
imarksguys i have just installed ubuntu 12.10 32 bit in virtual box but i dont see a menu on my screen, how can i access the menu?16:19
theadminimarks: Make sure 3D acceleration is enabled in VM properties16:20
Firak1l_, sure: http://pastebin.com/dCRBFH9r16:22
Firabasically16:23
Firadpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of initramfs-tools:16:23
Fira initramfs-tools depends on initramfs-tools-bin (<< 0.99ubuntu13.1~); however:16:23
Fira  Version of initramfs-tools-bin on system is 0.103ubuntu0.2.16:23
k1l_Fira: which ubuntu is it? are there PPA or other sources? why are you root?16:24
ambrose321hello16:24
L3topFira: this is almost always due to PPA conflicts. I assume you have stuff in /etc/apt/sources.list.d ?16:24
FiraPPA conflicts ? hmm16:25
GH0I seem to be having an issue with apt-get and purging/autoremoving/removing. Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/uYTXJff616:25
frantichey, anyone experienced the touchpad/keyboard  bug with ubuntu/xubuntu??16:25
ambrose321i'm wodering if someone can help me with a problem that I have with installing lubuntu in a separate partition (3 actually boot,root and home) alongside Fedora16:25
FiraNope L3top & k1l_ , empty, i'm not running with any kind of custom sources16:25
ambrose321hen i have tried this in the past Grub is no longer showing Fedora at boot time16:26
L3topFira: by ppa conflicts I mean conflicting/non-satisfyable dependencies caused by the PPA files in the repo. I see your last reply.16:26
ambrose321any ideas as to why that might be?16:26
k1l_Fira: please make a "sudo apt-get update &&sudo apt-get upgrade" and show that again16:26
Firaalready did :( in fact i also tried to run a do-release-upgrade - and as such, as of now i'm not sure wether this is technically a 12.04 or 12.10 ubuntu server (hopefully cloned it before)16:27
cparehello - My computer hung while formatting a USB thumbdrive, and now I can't access it - can someone help me get it working again?16:28
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theadminFira: Well, you could check with lsb_release -c16:29
k1l_Fira: what does "lsb_release -r " give you?16:29
escottambrose321, run "update-grub"16:29
k1l_Fira: and then take a look into the /etc/apt/sources.list what is mentioned there16:29
Firareads 12.10, but there were quite a few problems during the 12.10 upgrade due to apt-get failing to install pretty much everything in the same fashion16:30
Firasources seems to be 12.04 >_>16:30
Firai can rollback to 12.04 but already had the problem16:30
theadminFira: Well, that's pretty messed up... I don't think one can do much to fix it :/16:31
theadminAPT has no idea how to downgrade properly16:31
aPpYeLast night I installed from the mini.iso, I ran 'apt-get install $(cat /path/to/my/package/list)' inside of a screen session ... this morning I found it hung at downloading arialb32.exe from sourceforge.  I was able to gracefully shutdown the machine (shutdown -rF) and chose recovery mode and selected to repair broken packages.  Does this pick up the previously interrupted apt-get or does it simply run 'apt-get -f install' to get mi16:31
aPpYessing dependencies for packages that did install correctly?16:31
k1l_make a quantal instead of the precise in the sources list.16:31
k1l_and give it another apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade16:31
FiraWell it reads 10.04, but sources are quantal :P16:31
Fira12.04*16:32
k1l_Fira: wait what?16:32
eoshi guys, anyone who knows about infrared devices on ubuntu? I do not seem to be able to work my irda dongle, I have been googling for 2 days.16:32
FiraOkay, okay, hang on, let me just roll back to pre-upgrade version, that'll be one less problem to sort out >_<16:32
k1l_Fira:  what reads 12.04 and what says in sources.list?16:32
cparehello - My computer hung while formatting a USB thumbdrive, and now I can't access it - can someone help me get it working again?16:33
escottcpare, why not just reformat it again16:34
karthikeyangnustep anyone?16:34
aPpYewell anyway, I guess it won't hurt to run the package install again after rebooting...16:35
theadmincpare: If the partition table has been damaged you could recreate it with GParted or fdisk16:35
cparetheadmin - gpartd is giving me errors on the drive as well16:36
theadmincpare: What is the error?16:36
solar_seaHi. I've installed ubuntu 12.10 on a lvm logical volume, ext4. Then I added another logical volume (nilfs2), added nilfs2 to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules, updated grub and managed to boot with nilfs2 as root.16:37
WBFI need help, just updated, pressed alt+enter to switch toa different Desktop environment and It just logs me in.16:37
cparetheadmin - "Libparted Bug Found! - Input/Output error during read on /dev/sdb"16:37
escottcpare, sounds like the usb is/was damaged16:37
solar_seaSo far so good, but some scripts fails during boot time, and after that mount doesn't list the root mount :) the system works, but when mount doesn't list root as mounted, nilfs2 can't run it's cleaner deamon16:37
escottcpare, thats probably why it hung the first time you tried to format16:37
L3topFira: k1l_ sounds like a do release broke because of some other broken thing... now sources are all jacked relating to the original breakage.16:37
solar_seawhere are the logs from initrd boot process kept after boot, if any ?16:38
theadmincpare: Eh. Sounds problematic alright, could you go to Device -> Recreate partition table and do that?16:38
cpareescott - nah, my laptop needs to be re-floated16:38
archbsdaceWBF: alt+enter? you're meant to select the desktop at login16:38
WBFarchbsdace, 12.10 :P16:38
k1l_L3top: there are some 12.10 packages which dont met 12.04 depencies. so maybe a upgrade to 12,10 will help if its still 12.04 sources16:38
eosI do not seem to be able to make it work but it is a 5 year old dongle, with an old chip.16:39
cparetheadmin - same error when I try to do that16:39
FiraL3top / k1l_ : Rolled back to old snapshot, lsb_release reads 12.04, sources are precise, ran apt-get update/upgrade, still got the same old problem running install -f : http://pastebin.com/9fMzuUw416:39
archbsdaceWBF: what do you expect alt+enter to do?16:39
WBFarchbsdace, to let me select a desktop environment16:40
archbsdaceWBF: where are you getting this from?16:40
cpareescott - I was in the process of making a boot USB to try out a FSF distro :)16:40
k1l_WBF: alt+enter doesnt do that16:40
escottWBF, you probably want to remove lightdm and install gdm16:40
nbalelihello Im having troubles installing ubuntu on windows8 (newbie question)16:41
frankenstein_tell more or nobody is able to help16:41
L3top!info initramfs-tools-bin precise16:41
ubottuinitramfs-tools-bin (source: initramfs-tools): binaries used by initramfs-tools. In component main, is required. Version 0.99ubuntu13.1 (precise), package size 9 kB, installed size 118 kB16:42
Firahmm16:42
k1l_Fira: can you show a "sudo apt-get update" please?16:42
L3topsomething else is broken.... yes that ^16:42
escottnbaleli, it usually helps to disable secure boot so that there is one less thing to worry about16:42
nbaleliI install using windows installer. It finishes 1st step, then reboots into windows again16:42
GH0I am having problems with apt-get/dpkg as files that were needed for the packages removal were deleted. I have tried using the -f flag with apt-get, I tried doing an audit with dpkg, and now I am lost as to how to resolve the issue and get things back working the way they were so I can correctly install packages/remove packages16:42
Firaoh, gimme a moment please, VM is cloning :(16:43
BluesKajfrankenstein_, help with ?16:43
nbaleliescott I followed several how-to's on the web, no luck. Im a complete newbie with this16:43
Nikonhi there16:43
sahinhello16:43
Nikoni need to figure oiut how to add ubuntu to my windows 8 boot loader16:43
nbaleliTried installin ubunto on my laptop aswell and encountered the same issue16:44
Nikonwas trying easy bcd16:44
BluesKaj!uefi | Nikon16:45
ubottuNikon: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI16:45
nbaleliAltough a friend of mine installed ubuntu on his laptop, without windows, and it works flawlessly, and the system looks very very nice16:45
L3topNikon: explain... I am guessing you installed ubuntu, and then you installed windows 8?16:45
sahini cant get my ati radeon 6470m graphics card. i can use ubuntu desktop with no problem. but openGL is not working. any of you guys have an idea?16:45
nwertmanQuick question.  I have a MacBook Air that will not boot any of the USB drives I have (firmware issue).  I've installed rEFIt and done a 'dd' to install the LiveCD onto a 2 gig partition that I have.  When I boot from there, I'm told 'isolinux.bin missing or corrupt'16:45
Nikonno L3top i had windows 8 first16:45
nwertmanI'm running 10.8.2 (freshly update).  Unetbootin doesn't help and everything I've tried for USB booting fails.16:45
L3topNikon: then ubuntu should have installed grub in the MBR. You should not be dealing with a win 8 bootloader.16:46
archbsdace!uefi | Nikon16:46
ubottuNikon: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI16:46
Nikonim reading16:46
L3topnwertman: whatever you are making the image with has an odd version of syslinux typically.16:47
nwertmanDoes anyone have any instructions on how to blast the LiveCD onto a single partition of my internal hard drive16:47
nwertmanI downloaded the latest syslinux from the wiki and I grabbed mbr.bin from there.16:47
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lb27nwertman: what dd command did you use?16:47
WBFnwertman, try PLoP boot manager16:48
nwertmanThis is from my latest attempt at USB booting: 'dd conv=notrunc bs=440 count=1 if=mbr.bin of=/dev/rdisk1'16:48
blez"Secure Boot" is a new UEFI feature that appeared in 2012, with Windows8 preinstalled computers. The support for this feature has started with Ubuntu 12.10 64bit (see this article) and 12.04.2 64bit, but it is not fully reliable yet, so you may need to disable it in order to be able to boot Ubuntu.16:48
blezwhat about 32bit?16:48
escottblez, i didnt think there was a win8 32bit16:49
lb27nwertman: why the count=1 ? afaik that wrote only 440b to the disk?16:49
blezescott there is16:49
Boris_escott: yes there was16:49
nwertmanFollowing instructions here: 'http://perpetual-notion.blogspot.fr/2011/08/unetbootin-on-mac-os-x.html"16:49
blezthat's why I'm asking.16:49
escottan oem version? or just an upgrade?16:49
nwertmanI'm to the point where I'm just blindly following any site that gives me a new approach16:50
amejiahi16:50
amejiaclear16:50
sunsetloverguys i need program to manage my mobile (Galaxy S III), any one can help16:50
amejiaanybody here use DRUSH?16:50
escottblez, im pretty sure the 32bit version is bios only.16:51
lb27nwertman: ah, ok, I see where I was assuming wrong.  I'm used to just throwing the iso on the disk using dd, but i'm not mac..16:51
escottblez, http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/hardware/gg463149.aspx16:51
blezescott mine tablet/laptop is with 32bit cpu and win8 x8616:52
piglitwhere can i find the usb devices mounted (?) like the keyboard etc ... i mean in the file structure16:52
blezand I wanted to install ubuntu on it, but UEFI wasn't supported at this time (month ago)16:52
FiraL3top / k1l_ : Well.. Nothing much new, http://pastebin.com/9fMzuUw416:52
escottblez, i know ARM is completely locked down. again i didnt know there was a 32bit x86 tablet16:53
k1l_Fira: show the apt-get update please16:53
Firait's @ top16:53
blezyea, Acer W51016:54
k1l_Fira: no its not16:54
Firahuh o_o?16:54
Firaoh16:54
Firawrong link >.<'16:55
Firahttp://pastebin.com/ULwPp5DY16:55
Firasowry!16:55
L3topFira: something is breaking initramfs' ability to configure... the problem is not initramfs, but something else down the pike that is not supposed to be there and cannot be loaded into the kernel, breaking dpkg. You need to find it. my guess is going to be libc6. apt-cache depends libc6  apt-cache rdepends libc616:55
jackarghello I would like assistance/guidance on installing ubuntu on my new acer (64 bit) running windows 8 thanks16:55
relapseHi16:55
FiraMhmh16:55
L3topapt-cache policy libc616:56
escottjackarg, please be more specific. nbaleli same to you16:56
relapseI'm having a lot of problems with xubuntu. Logically it shouldnt be much different than Ubuntu with unity, but powermanagement, sound quality, and other tid bits are driving me nuts. Would it be benificial to install Ubuntu 12.10 and just install xubuntu-desktop? Or am I mistaken and there aren't any underlying differences between the two releases?16:56
escottrelapse, logically it would be very very different from unity16:57
relapseescott: I know the UI, i mean drivers/modules etc16:57
relapseescott: I mean the underlying core ubuntu os.16:57
escottrelapse, gnome starts a lot of daemons for the userspace. dbus, pulse, etc16:57
dem0nhmm...16:57
L3topit is my understanding that only arm8 is locked with win8 UEFI (though red-hat purchased a license)16:57
dem0nhow is everyone doing today?...16:57
L3topescott: ^16:57
escottL3top, i think the "license" redhat bought was for x86 and its just a smaller fee (the same that is charged to hardware manufacturers who need to get their drivers signed)16:59
jackargescott: I need help on a lot of subjects but mostly because I can't seem to get the computer to boot off the cd. it said the cd drive as blocked for security reasons. then, once i fixed that problem, I heard windows 8 wasn't always recognized by the ubuntu installer which is a problem since i want to dual boot. So if someone could help me with all of this it would be great!16:59
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dryhayhi. I'm missing my ibus sometimes. could someone check it, please: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=211667316:59
escottjackarg, disable secure boot16:59
jackarghow? it's all in grey in the bios16:59
FiraMmh... Well rdepends shows everything which seems logical, but i'm not too sure what else you want me to look in the rest: http://pastebin.com/kMPtaeiT. I don't assume it's normal for it to read that libc breaks nscd ?16:59
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* mmh ?17:00
escottjackarg, cant tell you thats specific to the manufacturer. per the "made for windows 8" contract it must be possible to disable it17:00
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* Fira woopses mmh17:00
Nikonhi17:00
piglitwhat location can i find the usb devises as the keyboard etc i can find with lsusb ?17:00
Nikonim back17:00
Nikonso what do i do now17:00
escottpiglit, what location?17:01
Nikoni disabled that new fangled thing17:01
Nikonfor the boot17:01
jackargescott: but do you have any guidance on how do disable it somehow? point me to a thread?17:01
L3topaha... Fira... I would start trying to remove all of those conflicts first17:01
piglitescott: well if you mount a hd it is in media but where are the other usb devices ?17:01
NikonL3top: hai17:01
escottjackarg, no. its specific to that bios. i dont know what it says or where it is17:01
escottjackarg, so unless you can tell me where i left my keys this morning. i can't tell you how to disable secure boot17:01
L3topFira: if it suggests that this will hoze your system, and do you REALLY want to do it and makes you type "do as I say" do NOT>17:02
escottpiglit, you don't mount devices17:02
FiraL3top: sure, but I can't remove anything since practically everything depends on the libc :(17:02
blezjackarg to disable secure boot, you must set a password first17:02
blezafaik.17:02
L3toplibc is installed17:02
FiraYeah17:02
NikonL3top: so what do i do now?>\17:02
L3toplibc does not depend on them...17:03
L3topWhat is the device Nikon17:03
FiraMust be understanding something backwards17:03
piglitescott: yes i know cant find the right word but there is a dir where the bus and device is17:03
Nikonhp envy m617:03
Nikonim on my live cd atm17:03
escottpiglit, do you want /dev/usb?17:03
Firadepend output reads "conflicts: tzdata", remove tzdata reads "libc depends on: tzdata"17:03
jackargblez: you set a password in bios?17:04
escottpiglit, /dev/bus/usb?17:04
HiddenCloudI need help on the ftp thing in ubuntu17:04
zanegrayjackarg: yes17:04
HiddenCloudhow do I cd a folder that has spaces in it17:04
L3topit is installed, and conflicting with those packages it sees as installed Fira... I am not sure how this situation was created.... remove what you can that conflicts... or are you saying they all do?17:04
HiddenCloudit says whenever I cd it file not found17:04
family`any one17:04
jackargthankyou all I will try17:04
L3top(depend on libc that is fira)17:04
zanegray@Hidden cd directory\ with\ spaces17:04
FiraI think they all do, yeah o_o17:04
escott!tab | HiddenCloud17:05
ubottuHiddenCloud: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.17:05
dem0nHiddenCloud: cd fiile\ name17:05
HiddenCloudo yeah17:05
HiddenCloudty17:05
family`try to use ctrl+h17:05
L3topFira: can you apt-get install --reinstall libc617:05
MadsRCis there any way to create a link to a folder, that upon deletion of said link won't also delete the content of the linked folder?17:05
piglitescott: thank you that is what i was looking for ... must get some sleep ik ques17:05
blezjackarg yes17:05
family`emacs ye17:05
family`shafou.com17:05
zanegrayMadsRC ln -s17:05
family`shafou.com17:06
jribMadsRC: that's true of both hard links and symlinks17:06
zanegrayspecificially. ln -s linkname directory17:06
MadsRCzanegray, just testet with ln -s and if I delete the link, I also delete what is in the linked folder17:06
k1l_family`: no advertising here17:06
family`it's not advertising! it's a joke17:06
R3TR0I got a blackscreen after installing a driver update with additional drivers, someone knows a solution?17:06
L3top!pm | Nikon17:06
ubottuNikon: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.17:06
jribMadsRC: it shouldn't.  Can you show a series of commands that shows otherwise on a pastebin?17:06
zanegrayMadsRC, really? i find that hard to believe17:06
k1l_family`: lets stick to ubuntu support in here, thanks17:06
Nikon:317:06
MadsRC2 secs :)17:06
family`k1l_: OK17:07
L3topR3TR0: what is the GPU? What driver?17:07
Nikoni know i just wanted to see what you would do17:07
Nikonanywho17:07
Nikonwhat was that link you all were saying last time?17:07
udiמי כאן?17:07
FiraL3top: pretty much anything fails due to unmet deps, including --reinstall'ing libc (even with -f) o_O' ... Might as well just reinstall from scratch, damned thing is a light install on a KVM host and all data is on a different drive... Thanks alot for the help anyhow :S17:07
R3TR0k1l, i asked him earlier. he told me to press strg alt f1 to open the console. i just tried that but the console didnt show up17:07
udi?17:07
udi?17:07
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L3topSorry Fira... that's an ugly rock and hard place17:07
family`ctrl+alt+T R3TR017:08
mussaهاي17:08
k1l_R3TR0: then try to select the recovery entry in grub menue17:08
MadsRCYou guys were right... Guess it was because I testet it through SMB on a windows machine... Deleting the link on a windows machine through smb deletes the content of the linked folder aswel as the link17:08
R3TR0ctrl alt and t works in the beginning too?17:08
R3TR0i start ubuntu and the login screen doesnt show up, only a blackscreen17:08
k1l_R3TR0: no that only works in the desktop mode17:09
L3top!hr | udi17:09
ubottuudi: Odgovarajuci kanal za Hrvatski jezik je #ubuntu-hr, molimo Vas da se pridruzite tom kanalu ukoliko trebate pomoc za Ubuntu, hvala.  Croatian language support in #ubuntu-hr17:09
k1l_R3TR0: press shift to get to grub menu and select recovery there17:09
L3tophmmm... that looks quite wrong...17:09
R3TR0when do i have to press shift?17:09
R3TR0when the blackscreen shows up?17:09
L3top!il17:09
ubottuלשיחות בשפה העברית ולגישה לקהילת המשתמשים העברית אנא הקלד:17:09
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NikonL3top: i hate to bug you but was it uedi?17:09
L3topthats it.17:09
k1l_R3TR0: when booting17:09
R3TR0booting? when exactly is that17:10
L3tophttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface Nikon17:10
R3TR0when i chose ubuntu or after it showed the blackscreen17:10
k1l_R3TR0: instead of choosing ubuntu you need to choose "ubuntu recovery"17:10
GH0How can I resolve this messag?  postgresql-contrib-9.1 : Depends: libossp-uuid16 but it is not going to be installed17:10
L3topfamily`: don't spam in pm.17:10
GH0Specifically about the part where it determines that it doesn't want to be installed.17:11
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GH0I have tried doing autoclean, clean, purge, autoremove, update, etc. But I can't fix this problem that I am having with apt-get17:11
k1l_!guidelines > family`17:11
ubottufamily`, please see my private message17:11
R3TR0so I start my PC, then there is the Option. I only have 3 options, Windows, Ubuntu and something like windows recovery17:11
L3top!nomodeset | R3TR0 I would try this. I am assuming you moved to a proprietary driver.17:12
ubottuR3TR0 I would try this. I am assuming you moved to a proprietary driver.: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter17:12
Nikonpok17:12
Nikonok17:12
GH0If I try to do a sudo apt-get -f install libossp-uuid16 I basically run into a bunch of errors with apt-get17:12
Nikonhow do i over write my windows boot with grub17:12
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al__is there a simple way to set up clamav to 'sudo freshclam' periodically and clamscan periodically without having to deal with cron jobs?17:13
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fuxkingUSAshafou.com17:13
fuxkingUSAwelcome to Jpan17:13
L3topNikon: I would chroot the install from a live disk after binding/mounting a lot of things, and grub-install /dev/sd* where * is the drive number.17:14
genii-around!mbr17:14
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)17:14
LadyNikonwoah there is a Nikon as well17:14
L3topty genii-around17:14
NikonHai LadyNikon17:14
Nikon:317:14
L3topThat was a much nicer answer than mine... lol17:14
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R3TR0how can i boot from a cd, i burnt the cd with the iso on the download page for ubuntu 12.04 LTS. is that the right one?17:15
L3topR3TR0: is this a wubi install?17:16
L3topR3TR0: sorry was confusing your issue with nikons17:17
R3TR0ahh ok17:17
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L3topR3TR0: yes... that is a good one... but I do not understand the question. how do you boot from a CD? Is that the question?17:18
R3TR0yeah, kinda17:18
robzyehey guys im having some problems installing catalyst (amd) on ubuntu 12.10. running a 5xxx card with a i5 (intel). i've checked the web but everytime i find an answer there is always a little step that goes wrong which they don't explain :/17:18
L3topR3TR0: I would burn it to a usb drive, and in the bios of the device set the device order. The same can be done for CD17:18
R3TR0ive found this, is that the same? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromCD i guess so17:18
L3top*device boot order17:18
R3TR0well, i lost my usb so i have to use the cd17:19
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L3topR3TR0: depending on the device, some have an f key you can hit at startup to choose the boot device, some you will have to change in the bios.17:19
L3topThat is a good link to get you going R3TR017:20
R3TR0ahh ok17:20
R3TR0well, ill try that now17:20
R3TR0if i still have a question ill come back17:20
dem0ngot to run take care everyone17:21
dem0ngot to play some shadowgun...i luv that game!17:21
zumaz203Does anyone know how to fix rezolution on login screen?  the upper buttons windows are out of place and cant see them17:21
jygI'm using 12.04 for a few months now and just yesterday something strange started where a while after booting up the headphone jack will stop working.  If I shut my computer down, pull out the laptop battery, hit the power button, put the batter back, and then boot up, that's the only way normal headphone functionality is restored17:23
jygthe "stop working" means, when i plug in the headphone i get no audio from the headphones and the laptop speakers output the audio instead17:24
SonikkuAmericajyg: Try [ sudo alsamixer ]17:25
L3topjyg I would like to see an output of sudo aplay -l in a pastebin17:25
L3topjyg: chances are this is a pulse issue.17:26
jygok sure... let me set something back to as they were before i started mucking around, and then i'll get that in paste bin, 2 min.  thanks, brb.17:26
SonikkuAmericazumaz203, is this lightdm?17:27
L3toppulse audio... 60% of the time, it works every time.17:27
zumaz203SonikkuAmerica yes17:27
nearsthi ppl17:28
SonikkuAmericazumaz203, one second...17:28
al__Does system monitor process list show cpu usage % for 1 of however many cores (ie, how much of a single core that process is using)?  Or does it average across what cpu resources are available?17:28
escott60% seems to be a very low estimate17:28
SonikkuAmericazumaz203: Run [ xrandr -q ] in a terminal for me.17:28
L3topevery time is a bold statement. I think the math works17:29
escottal__, at the process level it would show aggregate usage. so with 4 processors one process can use up to 400% of cpu17:29
SonikkuAmericaL3top: LOL. I believe the Pulse issue got fixed in 12.10, correct me if I'm wrong.17:29
samiasmcan somebody help me with getting my wifi USB to work?17:29
ikillcypherhi guys how to check if im using x86 or x64 ubuntu17:29
SonikkuAmericaL3top: That is, the one jyg mentioned17:29
robzyeUbuntu - the place that make all window's users press 'automatic installation'. why is everything so compliacted ;_;17:29
al__escott: ah, thanks.  so with 4 cores, 400% is really 100% of capacity.17:30
SonikkuAmericaikillcypher: [ uname -a ]17:30
escottikillcypher, uname -i17:30
L3toplotta weird hw out there... gets gooey with subdevices like weirdo swap pluggable headphone jacks in my experience... that could be very true SonikkuAmerica... I am not on quantal... I am a dinosaur.17:30
escottal__, yes17:30
ikillcypheri686 ?17:30
ikillcypherwhat is that17:30
genii-aroundikillcypher: Or even just uname -i17:30
escottal__, and fully loaded is 417:30
SonikkuAmericaikillcypher: i686 is advanced 32-bit arch.17:30
escottikillcypher, 32bit17:30
ikillcypherso how do I get a 64bit ubuntu17:31
SonikkuAmericaL3top: What do mean, dinosaur?17:31
ikillcypheras I need it for android building17:31
escottikillcypher, download the 64bit version and install it17:31
ikillcypherno other way of upgrading ?17:31
escottikillcypher, no17:31
tgm4883_ikillcypher, nope17:31
L3top10.04 is my main use SonikkuAmerica.17:31
SonikkuAmericaikillcypher: Make sure your computer is 64-bit capable though.17:31
SonikkuAmericaL3top: Oh.17:31
samiasmwifi specialists in here?17:32
ikillcypher4GB RAM17:32
SonikkuAmerica(I could've warned zumaz203 about that.)17:32
genii-aroundikillcypher: To find out if your system is 64bit capable: udo lshw -C cpu| grep width17:32
escottikillcypher, so?17:32
tgm4883_ikillcypher, pastebin 'lscpu'17:32
L3topsamiasm: just ask the real question... if someone knows they will answer17:32
jygL3top:   http://pastebin.com/nhn01Df917:32
SonikkuAmericasamiasm: If it's Ubuntu-related, we'll gladly answer. Be specific.17:33
genii-aroundikillcypher: I cropped the "s" out of suso in that command, but you get the idea17:33
SonikkuAmerica*sudo17:33
ikillcypheryes I did17:33
ikillcypherwidth: 64 bits17:33
ikillcypher width: 64 bits17:33
ikillcypher width: 64 bits17:33
FloodBot1ikillcypher: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.17:33
genii-aroundikillcypher: So, yes, your computer will do the 64bit version17:34
k-stzcompdoc: hey I solved the boot problem: apparently my hdd wasn't "high" enough in the boot sequence of the bios setup...17:34
L3topNot what I was hoping would be the prob jyg. My guess still lands with pulse.17:34
compdock-stz, yup17:35
samiasmI got a TL-WN822N and I downloaded drivers from linux wireless. After compiling nothing works. Worked fine before. Had to recompile cause of kernel update17:35
jygL3top: what were you suspecting?17:35
ikillcypherwhere do I get the x64 bit and I just install over ?17:35
L3topjyg: I was hoping that you would have two subdevices, one of which being the headphones jack.17:35
samiasm12.04 64 bit is what I am using btw17:36
Lofde_i am ssh'd into a ubuntu box, and i have a command i want to run (i am just running google chrome /opt/google...) i want to 'launch' this on the x:0 screen (tty7) what flags or additions do i need to add in there to tell this thing to run this on the screen of the remote host and not in the ssh window i am logged into?17:36
SonikkuAmericasamiasm: Compilation or run-time errors?17:36
SonikkuAmericaikillcypher: http://ubottu.com/y/dl17:36
L3topjyg: that I can fix... my pulse fix is always the same. Remove it. See if it does what you want. I fear that is not the recommended solution.17:36
jygL3top:  what was stranger, before my full power-off, i booted to windows and it suffered the same problem.  its almost as those the audio system on ubuntu freaks the card out in some way17:36
blezHave a new PC with the Windows 8 logo or using UEFI firmware?17:37
blezPlease use a 64-bit flavour of Ubuntu desktop.17:37
blezLearn more ›17:37
mihajlohy I need help17:37
blezwhat about 32bit ?17:37
samiasmdon't think so. Can I redo the process to find out if there are any errors?17:37
FloodBot1blez: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.17:37
L3topjyg: not the answer... more likely hardware problem if it is floating across OSs17:37
SonikkuAmericablez: (Please watch your flooding) Typically because Windows 8 hardware and UEFI hardware use 64-bit processors.17:37
SonikkuAmericablez: You'll NEED the 64-bit version to run it on UEFI hardware.17:38
zlatanhi, when I start skype I get Segmentation fault...what is solution to this?17:38
escottLofde_, you want it to display on the ssh servers X server and not on the ssh clients X server17:38
mihajloI instaled ubuntu 12.10 on my new notebook and i cant boot, i get error 'starting cpu interrupts balancing daemon'17:38
Lofde_escott, yes17:39
escottLofde_, in that case you would "export DISPLAY=:0"17:39
mihajlocan someone help....17:39
mihajloI instaled ubuntu 12.10 on my new notebook and i cant boot, i get error 'starting cpu interrupts balancing daemon'17:39
SonikkuAmerica!patience | mihajlo17:39
ubottumihajlo: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/17:39
escottLofde_, and then probably also set XAUTHORITY=~/.Xauthority17:39
dmkusamiasm, i'm not sure, that you had to build the driver. This page tell, that  one of default modules supports your device: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsTP-Link17:40
SonikkuAmericamihajlo: You'll need to send "nomodeset" to GRUB for your install to work17:40
Lofde_ /opt/google/chrome/google-chrome  --start-maximized --kiosk http://www.google.com   (here is my command escott where in that would those strings go)17:40
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samiasmit does. The connection broke down often though and it got better after building the new drivers. I just have to recompile after kernel updates which is pretty annoying17:41
mihajloSonikkuAmerica: can you explain me how to do that, im new to linux...17:41
blezSonikkuAmerica so, no 32bit support.. ever?17:41
SonikkuAmericamihajlo: To do that, when the Ubuntu start screen shows up from your live media, hit F6 and select "nomodeset" from the menu.17:41
escottLofde_, you will need to use env or run it in a shell17:41
escottLofde_, if you dont want to export that is17:41
SonikkuAmericablez: I didn't say that, but 32-bit installs simply do not work on UEFI Secure Boot. They will if you still have a BIOS though.17:42
SonikkuAmerica*They = 32-bit installs17:42
escottLofde_, you can locally declare env variables for a command with bash as VARIABLE=value /executable --options17:42
blezso when will a 32bit version be released? Any info?17:42
SonikkuAmericablez: There are 32-bit versions on Ubuntu's download page: http://ubottu.com/y/dl17:43
escottSonikkuAmerica, is that true? i know the boot loader would have to be a 64bit bootloaders, but can a 64bit bootloader not boot a 32bit kernel?17:43
blezno, 32bit version that work with UEFI17:43
escottblez, there are some complexities because with bios it is in 16bit mode until the kernel starts, with UEFI64 (which is what windows has) then it is in 64bit mode before the kernel is booted17:44
tgm4883_blez, read this for more info https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/102555517:44
ubottuUbuntu bug 1025555 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu32bits is incompatible with recent (UEFI) computers" [Undecided,Confirmed]17:44
SirNikonhi17:44
escottblez, besides 64bit is better and you have the hardware so just use it17:44
Lofde_escott, sweet thank you!17:44
tgm4883_escott, +117:44
blezI don't have the hardware..17:44
blezmy cpu is 32bit17:44
ikoniathat's unlikley17:44
hunterdouglasHello, I am having some difficulty interpreting the output of fdisk -l on a dedicated server i just rented, I am told that there are 4 physical HDDs, 2 120GB SSD's and 2 2TB HDD's, the SSD's being used in raid1 and the HDD's not being mounted or partitioned yet,17:44
ikoniaas yoiu have an EFI board17:44
escottblez, then you dont have Windows 8 UEFI17:44
SonikkuAmericaescott: You are correct. A 32-bit EFI can boot a 32-bit kernel; a 64-bit EFI can boot a 64-bit kernel, but neither EFI can load the opposite kernel (is my understanding).17:45
SonikkuAmerica*UEFI17:45
blezhttp://ark.intel.com/products/70105/Intel-Atom-Processor-Z2760-1MB-Cache-1_80-GHz17:45
blezInstruction Set32-bit17:45
tgm4883_blez, what laptop do you have17:45
blezAcer W51017:45
blezit's a tablet/laptop17:45
SonikkuAmerica"OS kernel architecture (32 or 64-bit) must be the same as the EFI architecture (unless "eficross" is used, which is available from kernel 3.4)"17:46
hunterdouglascan you help me interpret this?  fdisk -l output http://pastebin.com/jWKLKqaG17:46
SirNikonhow do i fix this17:46
SirNikonhttp://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z421/karou_/50BBB77F-F204-467D-8BE6-EBA4DB950556-1805-000000FA434EDBFA_zpsccab7a40.jpg17:46
tgm4883_blez, I doubt you are using UEFI on that17:46
SonikkuAmericaSo if one has 12.10 and eficross it might work.17:46
rhugheshello17:46
bleztgm4883 it's uefi.17:46
ikoniablez: then you have a 64bit cpu17:47
blezSonikkuAmerica I tried 12.10 with wubi, month ago, it didn't worked17:47
blezikonia read the specs17:47
hunterdouglasi would like to use the 2 TB HDD's as /home but i am at a loss for the use of fdisk17:47
escotthunterdouglas, don't use fdisk. use parted or gparted17:48
ikoniablez: that cpu won't be on an EFI board though17:48
SirNikonLadyNikon: hey17:48
ikoniablez: what board are you using17:48
tgm4883_blez, Note: The 32-bit editions of Windows don't support UEFI features. Only 64-bit editions of Windows can take advantage of the features that 64-bit UEFI firmware enables. Fortunately, the CSM in current UEFI implementations enables 32-bit operating systems and other operating systems that don't support UEFI to boot on hardware that has UEFI firmware. But, operating systems that require a CSM to boot can't use UEFI-specific features because the17:49
tgm4883_ CSM emulates earlier BIOS.17:49
tgm4883_so it sounds like it's just running in legacy mode17:49
scoobyI am running xubuntu and have two users.  I would like the system to auto-log-in to the user scooby when the system starts rather than asking me whih user.  How do I do this?17:50
JimmyNeutronAfter installing Ubuntu 12.10 in VBox 4.2.6, it ask me to hit enter to reboot.  After hitting the Enter key, the system says "The system is going down for reboot now!" and just hangs there.  Anyone encounter this?17:50
tgm4883_yes, CSM is the BIOS mode17:50
blezI have no idea from UEFI17:50
hunterdouglasescott:  i still do not understand what i am looking for exactly, never done anything like this before17:50
blezmy older laptops didn't had it17:50
tgm4883_blez, basically, you are using BIOS mode17:51
blezI'm pretty sure it's UEFI..17:51
tgm4883_blez, so just install 32-bit ubuntu17:51
blezit didn't worked.17:51
tgm4883_blez, did you not just read what I posted17:51
tgm4883_blez, for what reason didn't it work?17:51
escotthunterdouglas, well start by describing what you need to do17:51
blezI don't know. After rebooting with WUBI it said something like "Fixing problems..." it took like 30mins and after restart it runned win8 again17:52
blezthat was month+ ago17:52
hunterdouglasi have a server, with 4 physical hard drives in it, i am told that they are in 2 raid 1 pairs. i need to know where each partition is currently mounted, if even mounted. and configure them so that the 2TB disks are mounted as /home17:52
gigatropolisis there a schedule for adding libreoffice 4.0 to ubuntu 12.10 ?17:53
JimmyNeutronhunterdouglas, run mount17:53
escotthunterdouglas, and cat /proc/mdstat17:53
blezand that was with disabled secureboot17:53
benjadAnybody good with install issues.  Savage S3 video card, trying to install.  worked in 12.04, can't get usable screen on live CD to install on 12.10 for ubuntu, or lubuntu17:54
ikoniasavage S3 - wow, that's old17:54
benjadyup, tried lubuntu, but screen always corrupts, so came back to ubuntu, and having same issue.. worked in 12.0417:55
benjadcan't install from graphic live cd17:55
ikoniatried safe graphics mode17:55
k1l_gigatropolis: i dont think that is gonna to happen17:55
SonikkuAmericabenjad: Try using "nomodeset": When the Ubuntu start menu pops up, select you language, press F6 and select "nomodeset" from the menu.17:56
benjadhow do I get to it17:56
hunterdouglasright now /dev/md2 is on /home (98GB) and /dev/md0 is on /data (1908GB)17:56
benjadscreen is corrupted from the get-go.. the I get the    symbol = symbol, and the 12.10 , but hte 1st menu screen is corrupted, can;t get to launguage slection17:57
escotthunterdouglas, and what do you want17:57
hunterdouglasi would like to switch them around so that /dev/md0 is on /home 1908GB, and /dev/md2 is on /data 98 GB17:57
R3TR0im back, i managed to start booting from the cd and opened the console17:57
ikoniahunterdouglas: just change the mount points in fstab and reboot17:57
escotthunterdouglas, well thats going to be time consuming. you will just have to copy everything around17:57
ikoniaor unmount/remount17:57
hunterdouglasescott:  it is a brand new server with nothing AFAIK in either location17:57
SonikkuAmericabenjad: That giant menu that you see after the "symbol = symbol" won't appear?17:57
khaoshello, is there anyway to remap the fn keyboard shortcuts for a laptop? I'm using 12.10 6417:58
escotthunterdouglas, then just change the mountpoints in /etc/fstab17:58
benjadyup.. i get the equals screen.. the 12.10 with the changing dots appears, but the menu is corrupt.  same thing happens with lubuntu17:58
R3TR0l3top, is there a list of drivers which you can download from the "Additional Drivers" tab?17:58
SonikkuAmericabenjad: You are aware that you have to select "Try Ubuntu" or "Install Ubuntu" first?17:59
L3topR3TR0: if you can tell me what your hardware is, I can tell you the best driver for it17:59
SonikkuAmericabenjad: before you get all that17:59
hunterdouglaschange mount points then reboot? that simple?17:59
ikoniahunterdouglas: yup17:59
hunterdouglashuh, thanks ikonia , escott. you two have been wonderful17:59
R3TR0i5 CPU 3.20 GHz 6 GB RAM Ati Radeon HD 5750 64 Bit18:00
alo21hi...18:00
L3topR3TR0: give me a second and I will give you a pastebin of what to do18:01
escotthunterdouglas, you will have a small set of files in /home you should copy over but it wont be much18:01
R3TR0L3top: the thing is, that ive installed a driver from the additional drivers and i want to uninstall it. is that possible if i boot from the cd and use the console there?18:01
hunterdouglasactually, there was no data at all escott18:01
JimmyNeutronhunterdouglas, If it's a clean system with not much data on it, why not just reinstall again from scratch?18:02
khaoshello, is there anyway to remap the fn keyboard shortcuts for a laptop? I'm using 12.10 6418:02
escotthunterdouglas, /home wont be empty18:02
hunterdouglasJimmyNeutron: i dont have access to reinstall and configure18:02
hunterdouglasescott:  i have looked, there was nothing in /home18:02
escotthunterdouglas, that should not be the case18:03
JimmyNeutronhunterdouglas, Doing it remotely? if yes, then okay.18:03
L3tophttp://www.pastebin.ca/231691418:03
L3topR3TR0: ^18:03
L3topR3TR0: type exit when done so you arent running amok as root18:04
esphAny recommendations for a backup software? I'll be RMA-ing a laptop, which will be wiped (because they test it with windows, they say), and I want to be able to return it like it was when it gets back.18:04
yeats!backup | esph18:04
ubottuesph: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning18:04
R3TR0so i paste these lines you sent me18:04
R3TR0and after that is done i write "exit"18:04
R3TR0is that right?18:05
yeatsesph: I would personally avoid deja dup/duplicity for that, FYI18:05
jackarghello I have an acer with windows 8 64 bit and I want to know why the ubuntu cd installer goes straight to the demo version and dosen't give me the standard option menu18:05
yeatsjackarg: you can press a key when booting to get the menu18:06
esphyeats: so HomeUserBackup or MondoMindi would work for me?18:06
jackargyeats: what do you mean?18:06
dmkuI have question about output redirecting. For ex, I try to test logrotate: #logrotate -d /etc/logrotate.conf > logtest18:06
dmkuBut only part of output will be redirected to file, and other strings will be displayed on the standard output. What can I do to redirect all output of this command?18:06
ania_you are being watched18:06
hunterdouglaseither way, i got it now with no ill effects, it was literally a fresh install of 10.04, Old i know but some of my software has issues with the version of vsftpd bundled with 12.04 +18:07
yeatsesph: I haven't used those.  The reason for my cautioning against duplicity/deja dup is that the files are stored opaquely and are not easily browseable.18:07
L3topcorrect R3TR018:07
yeatsjackarg: when the live cd starts you can press a key to get to the menu18:07
yeatsjackarg: it doesn't present the menu by default18:08
jackargso before it goes into the live demo version I press any key for it to show up?18:08
relapseHi, is it worth installing the 13.04 beta? Or should I just wait another month.18:09
archbsdacerelapse: best to wait till release18:09
archbsdacerelapse: if you do decide to try before release help is in #ubuntu+118:09
yeatsjackarg: I don't have one handy to test, but yes, I think it will come up with any key - if not, maybe Esc or shift?18:10
relapseWord18:10
BluesKajrelapse, lots of ppl are trying 13.04 , includiong me , best to ask in #ubuntu+1 though18:10
R3TR0L3top: The lines after <enter password>, do i paste all of them at once in or one after one18:11
relapseI'm experiencing a lot of issues with xubuntu that I do NOT experience in ubuntu. Would I experience the same issues if I installed ubuntu and then xubuntu-desktop?18:11
bodqcan you recomment a tiling window manager? I've tried ion3 and xmonad. are there other worthwhile options?18:11
relapsebodq: dwm18:11
relapseor awesomewm18:11
hunterdouglasi cannot seem to install openjdk-7-jre using apt-get any tips?18:12
JimmyNeutronAnyone still encountering the Low graphics mode error every now and then?  Most of the time, it boots up fine, but every now and then, I encounter the low graphics mode.18:12
JimmyNeutronthis is 12.10 w/ all the latest patch and Bumblebee installed18:12
bodqrelapse, thanks. did you it with xinerama?18:12
relapsenah18:12
dmkubodq awesome is awesome.18:12
napsterPlease let me know if anyone succeeds in dual booting your GNex with Android and Ubuntu18:13
jackargyeats: i pressed all that while there was the ubuntu logo on the purple bkg with the loading dots. It jumped straight to the live version.18:13
intraderMy laptop is overheating (pSensor(temp2)>97C and shuts down while displaying video - linux 12.10 . The laptop is a lenovo t61 - same video on XP with same browser (firefox) does not overheat.18:14
k-stzI got the pci wlan-card "pce-n13" on ubuntu 12.04 but it loaded with the wrong (module?).. lspci shows it with RT2790 but I know it must be RT2860. It finds networks but can't connect to WPA networks, any help?18:15
moitimsalut18:16
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hunterdouglasopenjdk-7-jre has no instalation candidate? and i need java 7 for a server18:17
ikonia!java | hunterdouglas18:17
ubottuhunterdouglas: To just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.18:17
mihajloI instaled ubuntu 12.10 on my new notebook and i cant boot, i stop at 'starting cpu interrupts balancing daemon'18:18
abcdeefhello18:18
scoobyI want to logout from the command line, when I do gnome-session-quit I get a WARNING, Failed to call logout and it does not work - how do I logout from the command line18:18
hunterdouglasikonia:  this is on a server, only CLI is available18:18
abcdeefhow can i become a master of internet?18:18
ikoniahunterdouglas: so ?18:19
ikoniaabcdeef: grow up18:19
ikonia!topic | abcdeef18:19
ubottuabcdeef: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic18:19
layer3[troy] l op me18:19
datruthI'm using virutalbox (windows xp)  as my guest o/s and I'd like to use my microphone in windows xp how an I do this?18:19
JimmyNeutronabcdeef, Browse the internet for life? :)18:19
layer3[troy] l op troy18:19
ikonialayer3: stop18:19
layer3Huh18:19
abcdeefthanks Jimmy18:19
abcdeefi do that18:19
abcdeefi would like to master internet,and know everything18:20
ikoniaabcdeef: last warning - STOP18:20
ikonia!topic | abcdeef18:20
hunterdouglasi used apt-get install openjdk-7-jre  earlier today on a different server without issue, yet on this one it will not install18:20
ikonia!info openjdk-7-jre18:20
ubottuopenjdk-7-jre (source: openjdk-7): OpenJDK Java runtime, using Hotspot JIT. In component main, is optional. Version 7u15-2.3.7-0ubuntu1~12.10 (quantal), package size 220 kB, installed size 682 kB18:20
ikoniahunterdouglas: package is valid, update your repo cache and check again18:20
ikoniahunterdouglas: keep in mind it's a 12.10 package18:21
ikonia(in that example)18:21
hunterdouglasused apt-get update several times, still gives me no installation candidate error18:21
ikoniahunterdouglas: please read what I just said18:21
synaesthetikI am trying to install  a dualboot of ubuntu studio with osx and I keep getting this error: attempt to mount a file system with type vfat in sda1 failed18:21
hunterdouglasikonia:  half of what you just said i do not understand fully18:22
ikoniasynaesthetik: what model macbook18:22
synaesthetiklate 200918:22
ikoniahunterdouglas: ok - so what version of ubuntu are you using ?18:22
synaesthetikI forget the exact number18:22
ikoniasynaesthetik: are you using refit ?18:22
synaesthetikyes18:22
hunterdouglas10.04 server 64 bit18:22
ikoniasynaesthetik: you're disk shoudn't be "vfat" as far as I'm aware18:22
synaesthetiki didn't format it as that18:22
ikonia!info openjdk-7-jre lucid18:23
chiptekHallo! I installed Ubuntu 12.10 earlier and I was wondering if this channel could give me some instructions if it's possible to move the sidebar to a "traditional" taskbar at the bottom. 'tis driving me quite mad.18:23
ubottuPackage openjdk-7-jre does not exist in lucid18:23
ikoniahunterdouglas: ok, so that is not a valid 10.04 package from the official ubuntu repos18:23
ikoniahunterdouglas: so either your other machines are not 10.04 or you are using an external repo18:23
hunterdouglasthat is going to be an issue then. i need java 7 for some apps to run, guess i should restart with 11.1018:23
ikoniahunterdouglas: 11.10 is out of support18:24
ikonia(pretty much)18:24
hunterdouglasi CANT user 12+18:24
decciHi Guys18:24
ikoniahunterdouglas: why ?18:24
FrankieBoyzhi18:24
synaesthetikikonia i didn't format anything as vfat18:24
hunterdouglasvsftpd issues with the management software i use prevents FTP access except to SFTP users, and i need access to standard FTP as well18:24
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ikoniahunterdouglas: ...sorry don't see how that's a problem with a 12.X release ?18:25
* FrankieBoyz Picture of my whore cheating ex-girlfriend naked: http://imagetwist.com/isaz6v8d77nj18:25
decciI tried installing Clonezilla on Ubuntu 12.04. I can PXE boot client machine through server though I am facing some issue. All I would like to know how shall I configure server so that I can push Windows Xp images for client to get installed18:25
ikoniadecci: did we suggest where to get this information eaerlier ?18:25
ikoniaearlier18:26
decciikonia: Yes18:26
ikoniadecci: ok, good, so you know where to get it18:26
decciikonia: But I am not getting help from the forum18:26
rainyi cant join ircnet :o18:26
hunterdouglasthe problem is the management software i use automatically installs the most recent version of VSFTPD, which has issues with this software when ran on 12+, when ran on 10.04 10.10 or 11.04, it runs fine with no issues18:26
ikoniadecci: that is the place to get the help18:26
trollboyI'm out of hardware and a long time linux user.. aeons ago when the earth was young I abandoned ATI cards in favor of being a Nvidia brand whore.. has ATI decided to play nice with linux now, or should I stick with Nvidia?18:26
ikoniahunterdouglas: vsftpd work on 12.x18:26
ikoniatrollboy: tone it down18:27
escotthunterdouglas, sftp is unrelated to ftp18:27
hunterdouglasnot with the software I am using it doesnt18:27
ikoniahunterdouglas: I assure you it does18:27
ikoniahunterdouglas: it's an ftp server18:27
trollboyikonia, sorry, I should have said "fanboy", but that said... my question still stands, is ATI linux-safe or should I stick with Nvidia?18:27
ikonianothing more18:27
ikoniatrollboy: it's the toss of a coin, depends on your specific hardware, research the cards you want to buy18:27
archbsdacetrollboy: both work here18:27
hunterdouglasikonia:  http://www.ehcp.net/?q=node/139118:28
cerebratehow do i change my color scheme to reversed emphasis, in the sense of visible text on an invisible background like in the old programs, in xchat18:28
trollboyawesome... I remember back in the day ATI required a lot of heavy handed hacking.. I'm more of a fire and forget it kinda guy18:28
HasselsaurusNVidia tends to play nicer with proprietary drivers in my experience18:28
trollboythanks!18:28
HasselsaurusIf you have the option, still go NVidia or Intel, IMO18:28
Baueris there any way to allow Ubuntu's Terminal in GTK to copy text when I select it? like Putty does in windows18:28
Hasselsaurusbut both do work18:28
rahulsumanhi18:28
SiegeLordDoes ubuntu get it's packages from Debian unstable or Debian testing?18:29
ikoniahunterdouglas: just reading18:29
escottSiegeLord, i think it has varied based on the release. usually it is from unstable?18:29
trollboySiegeLord, I don't believe so, not for some time18:29
maxbithy18:30
ikoniahunterdouglas: there is a fix in that forum post18:30
hunterdouglasyeah, removing 2.5 and installing 2.3 which i have had no luck with18:30
ikoniahunterdouglas: no18:31
Guest28754can someone please explain to the the steps of finding a drive thats plugged in and mounting that drive?18:31
ikoniahunterdouglas: changing the chroot_local_user setting18:31
maxbitcan some one help me with my touch screen i have 3 monitors and one of them has a touch surface but if i touch on it takes the whole desktop as a reference is there a way to bind it on a display???18:31
hunterdouglasthis one sudo sed -i 's/chroot_local_user=YES/chroot_local_user=NO/g' /etc/vsftpd.conf sudo service vsftpd restart ?18:32
ikoniahunterdouglas: that says it's tested and working18:32
trollboyhas ubuntu sussed out 3+ monitors on multiple video cards yet?18:32
trollboythat was an issue like.. 6 months ago18:33
ikoniatrollboy: that's not an ubuntu issue18:33
hunterdouglaswell i guess i am going to spend another 2 hours reinstalling and configuring again...18:33
ikoniatrollboy: that's an issue with certain propritary drivers18:33
rahulsumancan someone please suggest me a channel for a irc newbie?18:33
ikoniahunterdouglas: I'really suggest checking information properly18:33
archbsdacerahulsuman: #freenode18:33
jackargI have now the ubuntu installer running on my acer which i bought with windows 8 (64 bit) and it does not recognize windows 8 as an operating system. I now need to edit a partition I think, but I have no idea how. Any help or other options?18:34
rahulsumanthanks, and how do i leave this channel18:34
archbsdacerahulsuman: /part18:34
hunterdouglasi am sorry ikonia, i dont have to go through this very often, and i can not remember absolutely every detail18:34
ikoniarahulsuman: /part18:34
ikoniahunterdouglas: it's fine, it's just wise to check things out before rushing into assumptions18:34
ikoniahunterdouglas: eg: the thread you said showed it worked...also gave a solution if you read it fully18:34
hunterdouglasyeah, i wasnt trying to assume anything i just remember i used to use 10.04 without any issues at all, so i wanted to go back to it after running into countless issues with 12.04 on my last server18:35
hunterdouglasill put a ticket in to reinstall to 12.04 then, Thanks again ikonia18:35
ikoniahunterdouglas: if you hit problems, come back and we'll worth them through18:36
ikoniahunterdouglas: I'm confident any issue will be config rather than a genuine blocker18:36
hunterdouglasyep, thanks ikonia you have been a wonderful help18:36
ikoniahunterdouglas: vsftpd has been stable for a long time and it's just a dumb ftp server....it's hard to "break" it18:36
hunterdouglasshould i go with 12.04 or 12.1018:37
ikoniahunterdouglas: 12.04 if you want an LTS supported server18:37
hunterdouglask ty18:37
HQRajaHello. I have installed Ubuntu 12.10 on my HP Pavilion dv6 and when I connect it to my Dell ST2420L monitor via HDMI, nothing happens. I also checked in System Settings > Display, and the only monitor available is the Laptop one. Can anyone please help with this?18:38
HQRajaThe machine has ATI Mobility Radeon Premium Graphics card, though I haven't configured any additional drivers for it post installation. Will I need to do that?18:39
ikonia /last trollboy18:39
HQRajaikonia: In case you're referring to me, I'm not trolling.18:40
ikoniaHQRaja: err no18:40
HQRajaOh OK18:41
HQRajaSo, anyone?18:42
HQRajaI could really use some help18:43
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trollboyikonia?18:46
MonkeyDustHQRaja  i have intel myself, but did you read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI18:47
HQRajaMonkeyDust: Thanks, I haven't but judging by the URL, I think this will help.18:47
ikoniatrollboy: typo18:48
trollboyfair enough18:48
trollboyI get that a lot18:48
synaesthetikikonia18:49
synaesthetikare you able to help me?18:49
ikoniawhat's up ?18:49
ikoniahave you asked the channel ?18:49
synaesthetikyes18:49
mihajloI instaled ubuntu 12.10 on my new notebook and i cant boot, i get error 'starting cpu interrupts balancing daemon'....18:50
mihajlopls help someone18:50
ikoniasynaesthetik: what can I help with ?18:50
synaesthetikthe vfat error in install18:50
synaesthetiksame thing18:50
ikoniasynaesthetik:....ok, so check sda1 - see what file system is on it, then look at how / why it's trying to mount it vfat if it's not vfat18:50
mihajloI instaled ubuntu 12.10 on my new notebook and i cant boot, i get error 'starting cpu interrupts balancing daemon'...18:51
synaesthetiksda is the refit partition18:51
synaesthetiksda1 i mean18:51
ikoniasynaesthetik: sda is a disk18:51
ikoniaahh ok18:51
ikoniaso that maybe why it's vfat18:51
ikoniasynaesthetik: so what part of the process is erroring ?18:51
mihajloI instaled ubuntu 12.10 on my new notebook and i cant boot, i get error 'starting cpu interrupts balancing daemon'18:52
angshow can I delete a .deb package that is installed by dpkg -i18:52
ikoniaangs: dpkg will remove it18:52
synaesthetikafter i finish setting up the partitions and click install it pretty much immediately gives me that error18:52
mihajloikonia can you help?18:52
ikoniasynaesthetik: so this is he installer that's failing, not the boot process /18:52
synaesthetikright18:53
ikoniasynaesthetik: ok, can you manually check sda1 - see what state it's in18:53
synaesthetikhow do i do that?18:53
synaesthetikgparted?18:53
ikoniasynaesthetik: manually try to mount it, gparted, sure18:53
mihajloikonia: I have boot problem can you help....18:54
ikoniamihajlo: not at the moment,18:54
synaesthetikikonia i don't think i can mount with gparted18:54
synaesthetikwhat is the terminal command18:54
ikoniasynaesthetik: 1.) check if /dev/sda1 exists 2.) try to mount it if it does, 3.) check the contents of it (should be empty if it can't mount it)18:55
archbsdacesynaesthetik: mount /dev/whatever /mountpoint18:55
OerHeksmihajlo, maybe the nomodeset option helps booting18:55
OerHeks!nomodeset18:56
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter18:56
jackargcan anybody help with creating a partition when installing ubuntu on windows 8?18:56
synaesthetikarchsdace: what if i'm running a live boot cd18:56
wachpwnskiwhy does linux quality seem to be sucking more and more this year?18:57
synaesthetikwhat would the mountpoint be18:57
archbsdacesynaesthetik: the mount command doesn't differ18:57
ikoniasynaesthetik: anything you want18:57
wachpwnskimint, arch etc. all failing terribly18:57
archbsdacewachpwnski: this channel is for ubuntu support18:57
wachpwnskiarchbsdace:  good, what is a good way to go about getting ubuntu installed minified with cinnamon?18:59
ikoniawachpwnski: you don't do that18:59
archbsdacewachpwnski: cinnamon isn't supported on ubuntu18:59
energy!ru18:59
ubottuПожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.18:59
wachpwnski:/ now we can add ubuntu to that list18:59
mihajlocan some one help me with seting up nomodeset... im new to this and cant understand most of the things19:00
escottmihajlo, starting cpu interrupts daemon is not an error19:00
mihajloescott: i know its not error i misstiped... but anyway it stops there19:01
mihajloescott: can you help me with seting nomode...19:02
escott!nomodeset | mihajlo19:02
ubottumihajlo: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter19:02
synaesthetikk ikonia it isn't letting me mount from here19:02
ikoniasynaesthetik: ok, I suspect that is your problem19:02
metasansanaDoes ubuntu have a javascript library?19:02
ikoniasynaesthetik: did you verify the partition exists19:02
ikoniametasansana: it's not a library19:03
energy119:03
metasansanaikonia: what is it then and where do I find it/19:03
mihajloescott: i saw that but still not get it...(im noob).. where to write that code?19:03
synaesthetikthe partition is showing up on gparted19:03
ikoniametasansana: it's part of your browser19:03
jackargcan anybody help me with partitioning on the live ubuntu cd?19:03
ikoniametasansana: try putting a file system on it, verify it by mounting it, then unmount it, and try the installer again19:04
metasansanaikonia: huh?19:04
Baueris there any way to allow Ubuntu's Terminal in GTK to copy text when I select it? like Putty does in windows19:04
ikoniametasansana: what do you want to do ?19:04
behemoth123I have a Compaq 6715b laptop with a fingerprint reader and ubuntu 12.04 LTS installed. I am trying to get the fingerprint reader to work. I have tried installing fingerprint -gui, but it keeps saying no device is found.19:04
ikoniaBauer: it does that already19:04
ikoniaBauer: text you hilight is copied19:04
metasansanaI'm on http://developer.ubuntu.com/19:04
mihajloStill waiting for someone to explain me how to set no mode option,,,19:04
jribBauer: it does that, just use middle click to paste19:04
jrib!nomodeset | mihajlo19:05
ubottumihajlo: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter19:05
ikoniamihajlo: try reading the information you've been given 3 times19:05
metasansanaSo far I see C and python stuff, I was wondering about javascript support.19:05
escottmihajlo, it will tell you in that link19:05
ikoniametasansana: it will support javascript as that's in the browser19:05
Bauerhmm, thanks ikonia , I must have had weird bug, indeed it works now19:05
metasansanaikonia: I don't mean for web, I mean for desktop applications.19:06
metasansanaSpecifically messing around with unity.19:06
ikoniametasansana:.....javascript is for browsers.....19:06
metasansanaikonia: JavaScript left the browser a long time ago.19:06
metasansananode.js?19:06
hunterdouglasok ikonia the reinstall took my 2 2TB drives out of raid, the other two are fine, im not entirely sure how to use parted to set it up, looks like mkpart /dev/sdc /dev/sdb raid1 0 end or something like that19:06
ikoniait's still parsed by the same library19:06
ikoniahunterdouglas: is the raid software, hardware or fakeraid ?19:07
metasansanaSo I guess there is no unity javascript api then?19:07
hunterdouglassoftware19:07
ikoniahunterdouglas: madadm assemble to re-assmble the array19:07
ikoniahunterdouglas: mdadm sorry19:07
savioanybody tried new ubuntu phone os>19:08
ikoniasavio: try #ubuntu-phone19:09
MonkeyDust!phone | savio19:09
ubottusavio: Ubuntu for phone has been announced, see http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone to find out more and to sign up for progress updates. Discussion is in #ubuntu-phone19:09
hunterdouglascan i create a new raid1?19:09
ikoniahunterdouglas: do you want to create a new raid ? or just re-assemble the old one ?19:09
hunterdouglasnew19:09
wachpwnskiwhy would you want a ubuntu phone when you can have a window 8 phone that is so much better. :D19:10
ikoniahunterdouglas: then do that then19:10
savioikonia, MonkeyDust i know that i just ask you guys19:10
hunterdouglasold didnt have anything on it19:10
ikoniawachpwnski: stop it19:10
ikoniasavio: ask in the right channel then19:10
ikoniaespecially if you know the right channel19:10
mihajloescott: again get black screen with dash blinking...19:10
wachpwnskiikonia: stop what?19:11
joe_onerebAm I free to use any old video card  for Ubuntu or is there a particular one that works better with linux?19:11
ikoniawachpwnski: the trolling19:11
wachpwnskiI'm being serious…19:11
ikoniajoe_onereb: you need a certain power one, to get the 3d effects, and one which supports 3d acceleration in linux19:12
ikoniawachpwnski: he asked if anyone had tried it, not "please trolling me with windows is better flame"19:12
wachpwnskiI work for best buy mobile and I am a realistic authority on it19:12
ikoniawachpwnski: you'r enot19:12
ikoniawachpwnski: this channel is for ubuntu support, not your makerting spew19:12
escottmihajlo, if you want help you need to learn how to ask questions that can be answered19:12
wachpwnskifair enough19:12
escottmihajlo, either "you did it wrong" or "your problem isnt modesetting"19:13
synaesthetikummm19:13
joe_onerebdoes anyone know one card in particular that deffinatly works?19:13
synaesthetikikonia19:13
synaesthetiklook at this19:13
ikonia!hcl | joe_onereb19:13
ubottujoe_onereb: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection19:13
synaesthetikumount: it seems /dev/sda1 is mounted multiple times19:13
synaesthetiki have no idea where though19:14
ikoniasynaesthetik: it can't be19:14
ikoniasynaesthetik: you can only mount it once19:14
synaesthetikwell that is what it says19:14
escottsynaesthetik, what is the output of "mount"19:14
L3mcemight have bindings etc... what does mount tell you synaesthetik19:14
papsmearVi sitter här I venten och spelar lite DOTA Steam19:15
synaesthetikmount /dev/sda119:15
synaesthetik?19:15
L3mcemount19:15
escottsynaesthetik, no just "mount"19:15
synaesthetikmount: warning: /etc/mtab is not writable (e.g. read-only filesystem).19:15
synaesthetik       It's possible that information reported by mount(8) is not19:15
synaesthetik       up to date. For actual information about system mount points19:15
synaesthetik       check the /proc/mounts file.19:15
synaesthetiker19:16
synaesthetikwait19:16
escottsynaesthetik, when a tool tells you something please follow the instructions the tool tells you19:16
L3mce!pastebin | synaesthetik19:16
ubottusynaesthetik: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.19:16
synaesthetikoops sorry19:16
synaesthetikdidn't know19:16
harryrf!help19:16
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience19:16
papsmearsynaesthetik, did you check fstab19:16
ikoniait's a livecd19:16
harryrfCan I talk to that bot in PM?19:16
ikoniait won't have anything in the fstab19:17
ikoniaharryrf: yes, you can19:17
archbsdace!msgthebot | harryrf19:17
ubottuharryrf: Please investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots.  Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid".19:17
L3mceyes harryrf /msg ubottu19:17
escott!msgthebot > harryrf19:17
ubottuharryrf, please see my private message19:17
papsmearoh19:17
synaesthetikoh also this was on the output: /dev/sda1 on /home type ext2 (rw) /dev/sda1 on / type ext2 (rw)19:17
synaesthetik 19:17
synaesthetikdoh19:17
HQRajaI am following the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI and when I use this command: 'sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.BAK' as instructed, I get this error: 'cp: cannot stat `/etc/X11/xorg.conf': No such file or directory'19:17
escottsynaesthetik, thats a rather strange setup19:17
harryrfcool thanks19:18
escottsynaesthetik, but umount the /home first19:18
synaesthetikhuh?19:18
HQRajaCan anyone please help me with this?19:18
BluesKajHQRaja, cp -r19:18
escottHQRaja, those instructions are out of date. xorg.conf won't exist on most systems19:18
synaesthetikyes i did umount19:18
brightsparkHQRaja: modern releases don't contain that file.19:18
escottsynaesthetik, if you bind mounted the disk the inner mount needs to be unbound first19:19
bekksHQRaja: A file that doesnt exist doesnt need to be backuped. :)19:19
HQRajaeshlox, brightspark, bekks: Ah I see, thanks. So I shouldn't follow those instructions then, considering the rest might be out of date too?19:19
BluesKajbekks, may have generated axconf if he has nvidia19:19
BluesKajer Xconf19:20
bekksBluesKaj: The message clearly states that he doesnt. :)19:20
hunterdouglasok, managed to rebuild the raid, guess thats the way i am going19:20
synaesthetikescott you mean unmount from root after i unmount from home?19:20
escottsynaesthetik, yes19:20
HQRajaescott, brightspark, bekks: I'm basically trying to switch to the fglrx proprietary drivers for my AMD video card in hopes that HDMI output to my external monitor works, which isn't currently working using the default X.Org drivers that Ubuntu used upon installation automatically.19:21
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escottHQRaja, all you need to do is install the fglrx package19:22
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bekksHQRaja: I cant help you with that, since I am actively refusing to even touch ATI graphics hardware :)19:22
HQRajaThough when I try to manually switch to those drivers from the 'Additional Drivers' section in 'Software Sources', nothing happens after hitting 'Apply Changes'; no error message. The radio button simply switches back to 'Using X.Org X server'19:22
HQRajaescott: Yes, that's what I'm trying to do. =)19:23
HQRajabekks: Heh no worries. I personally wouldn't mind sticking with the default driver currently in use, if HDMI output would work with it.19:23
escottHQRaja, is this a laptop?19:23
escottHQRaja, ie switchable graphics?19:24
HQRajaescott: Yes, it is. BTW perhaps if I launch the Software Sources dialog from terminal, I can see some error output to find out what's happening. Would you know how to do that?19:24
escottHQRaja, yeah that probably wont work19:24
HQRajaescott: The machine has integrated Intel graphics, plus ATI ones. The card is getting detected fine by the machine.19:25
HQRajaUnder 'Additional Drivers', it says 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI: Madison [Radeon HD 5000M Series]19:25
HQRajaWait, let me try grabbing a screenshot19:25
escottHQRaja, please dont send it to me19:26
HQRajaescott: I won't; I'll upload it somewhere and paste the link here.19:26
synaesthetikpapsmear, how do i check fstab19:28
papsmearsynaesthetik, cat /etc/fstab19:30
papsmearbut if you're using a livecd it's no use19:30
synaesthetikblah19:30
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datruthis there a winamp dsp plugin for linux?19:33
ikonialinux19:33
ikoniadatruth: winamp doesn't exist on linue19:33
archbsdacedatruth: audacious has the ability to look like winamp19:33
MonkeyDustdatruth  audacious is very similar to winamp19:33
MonkeyDustarchbsdace  was faster :)19:34
HQRajaescott: This is what I see in 'Software Sources' > 'Additional Drivers': https://jumpshare.com/v/xFvtkJWcAz9O8P10Mvqx?b=D3qsehP9Q5ERnrkm2M1k and this is the error that shows up in Terminal when attempting to switch to ATI's drivers. Can you please take a look at them?19:34
HQRajaSorry, forgot to paste the second link. Here it is: https://jumpshare.com/v/Y8RbYiHsk2qK5EPNbXfC?b=D3qsehP9Q5ERnrkm2M1k19:35
lb27archbsdace: can audacious play pictures with embedded music?19:35
archbsdacelb27: never tried sorry19:35
archbsdacelb27: there should be display plugins19:35
lb27archbsdace: I think it has more to do with a disregard for file headers, a minor point, but something winamp does19:36
PhysicistMy problem was resolved. I just changed the linux image and fixed the problem.19:37
Brewsterhey whenever I try to open synaptic or anything else that requires root privileges and try to enter my password it will say incorrect password even though I haven't typed anything yet19:37
Brewsterhow do I fix that?19:37
PhysicistAfter reinstall the AMD driver. It was not necessary.19:38
synaesthetikbrb19:38
lb27Brewster: what happens if you run 'sudo synaptic' in a terminal?19:39
escott!gksudo | lb27 Brewster19:39
ubottulb27 Brewster: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)19:39
lb27escott: ok, thanks19:39
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Brewster:/19:39
harryrflspci should show wlan0 if the wireless card is reconized , correct?19:39
Prageethcan i install ubuntu alongside windows 8?19:39
genii-aroundharryrf: Some wireless cards are on an internal USB bus19:40
HQRajaCan anyone please help me with my drivers issue?19:41
L3mceharryrf: it may not call it wlan... but it should likely be listed. /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules will show it if the system recognizes it19:41
Brewsterexit19:41
Brewsteroops19:41
Brewsterwrong window19:41
L3mceHQRaja: http://www.pastebin.ca/231691419:42
L3mceHQRaja: then reboot19:42
Brewstergksudo works but is there any way to fix the original problem?19:42
HQRajaL3mce: Thanks, lemme try19:42
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escottL3mce, HQRaja has switchable graphics. make sure whatever you are sending him wont break such a system19:45
L3mcesorry19:45
L3mceyes19:45
harryrfL3mce, here's what my 70-persistent-net.rules files says http://pastebin.com/6swJPQFV19:45
L3mceHQRaja: I appologize... I didnt realize you were on a hybrid. Please install vga-switcheroo19:46
L3mceI do not know that it supports fglrx19:46
HQRajaL3mce: So I shouldn't use those commands, then?19:46
L3mcecorrect19:46
HQRajaThank you.19:46
L3mcegood catch escott thanks19:46
escottL3mce, i told him it wasn't going to work but he didnt listen to me19:47
HQRajaIs this correct: sudo apt-get install vga-switcheroo ?19:47
scoobyI want to disable the right mouse button in the xfce desktop - how do I do that?19:47
HQRajaescott: My apologies; I've been a bit confused.19:48
PhysicistAny suggest about how to create a backup partition?19:48
escottHQRaja, is it supposed to be vga-switcheroo or ironhide these days19:48
czardozwhat's the best way to read docbook files?19:49
escottHQRaja, what you are doing is unsupported. there is some very rough stuff like vga-switcheroo which works for some people but not other and could break your system19:49
PhysicistI have lots of space.. more than 700GB free!19:49
lb27Physicist: I like dd if you want an exact copy, can pipe it into a container of your choice.19:49
escottHQRaja, ie its something you should be very cautious about doing and do *A LOT* more research before you start19:51
Physicistlb27: dd? I do not know what is it.. So can I just create and put there?19:51
psusidd is not a backup tool... it's a dumb animal... if you want to backup your files, use tar, or the nice gui backup tool19:51
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HQRajaSorry, got disconnected19:51
lb27True, if you just want the files there are many fine choices19:51
escottHQRaja, is it supposed to be vga-switcheroo or ironhide these days19:52
escottHQRaja, what you are doing is unsupported. there is some very rough stuff like vga-switcheroo which works for some people but not other and could break your system19:52
escottHQRaja, ie its something you should be very cautious about doing and do *A LOT* more research before you start19:52
HQRajaescott, L3mce: In case my last two messages didn't get through, Is there any way to somehow output my display to an external monitor using the existing driver? Since that's the only thing I wanna do; otherwise, I'm find without ATI's drivers19:52
HQRajaAnd thanks for all the help, I really appreciate it.19:52
Physicistok..19:52
HQRajafind = fine*19:53
escottHQRaja, start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics19:53
OrpheonWhat is the easiest way to make a windows partition larger from Ubuntu?19:53
escottHQRaja, and then start seeing anyone else has had success with your laptop model19:53
escottOrpheon, gparted19:54
HQRajaescott: Thanks again19:54
Orpheonescott, how? If I click on "Resize" on the windows partition, it doesn't let me make it bigger19:54
L3mceI am not sure HQRaja. I avoid those things like the plague.19:54
escottOrpheon, does it have adjacent free space to expand into19:55
Orpheonadjacent?19:55
Orpheondamn19:55
Orpheoncan I move other partitions around?19:55
HQRajaSo then from what I have understood so far, this basically means HDMI output will not work with the default VGA card using the drivers Ubuntu has used by default?19:55
escottOrpheon, yes as long as the partition is not active19:55
escottHQRaja, that would be my big question. have you ruled that out? you seemed to start down a path and never looked back19:56
Orpheonescott, still don't see how: http://snag.gy/l8bUq.jpg19:57
HQRajaescott: Well, I didn't rule it out actually. In fact if I can somehow get that to work, I wouldn't even want to look into getting ATI drivers to work.19:57
Orpheon(sda2 = windows)19:57
escottHQRaja, i would be curious to see "lspci -tv"19:58
escottOrpheon, you have an extended partition in there.19:58
escottOrpheon, you would have to shrink the extended to move the free space out of the extended, then slide sda2 over19:59
HQRajaescott: Thanks, lemme try. My only objective here is to output my display to an external monitor over HDMI, regardless of the drivers or the video card the machine and the OS use for the purpose. =)19:59
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Orpheonescott, and uhh...how do I resize the entire extended partition? Right-clicking doesn't give any Resize option19:59
escottOrpheon, i dont know if it can be done from the gui or not20:00
rushboyHello ! Can anyone please help me out with this query : I am writing a simple gui program in java where I am displaying a menu bar with just two tabs namely : 'File' and 'Edit' using all the libraries provided by java like javax.swing and java.awt . My query is how do I change the size of the font in which the words 'File' and 'Edit' is written ? I really need to solve this , any help is very much appreciated :-)20:00
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escott!ot | rushboy20:01
ubotturushboy: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!20:01
theadminrushboy: I think ##java is a much better place for this.20:01
rushboytheadmin, okay , the network please ?20:01
theadminrushboy: Uhm, this one. Freenode.20:02
rushboyCannot join #java (Channel is invite only).20:02
rushboy:(20:02
theadminrushboy: ##java, not #java20:02
theadminDouble #. Also you may need to register.20:02
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frewdoes anyone have any idea why X would lose my keyboard?  If I plug in a USB keyboard I can type fine, and if I switch to a real terminal (Ctrl + Alt + F1), I can use my normal keyboard20:05
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frewit gets even weirder20:10
frewarrow keys work in X20:10
theadminfrew: This doesn't explain why it happened, but why not just restart X? Does it help?20:11
frewrestarting X works but it's just a hassle you know?20:11
frewI20:11
frewI'd like to get to the bottom of it and solve the problem20:11
theadminfrew: Okay, so it's consistent, it happens often? If so, what are your actions before it happens?20:12
frewit happens maybe 2-3 times a month20:12
frewso not super often20:12
frewbut it's a laptop, so I can't just unplug and replug my keyboard, or I wouldn't care20:12
frewI *think* what causes it is pressing a lot of buttons at the same time20:13
frewoften on accident20:13
frewbut I can't easily reproduce that20:13
theadminHm... This is odd.20:13
frewI've had the same thing happen on my desktop at work but with that one I do the unplug/replug trick and all is fine20:13
Tengrikutüşengeç20:13
kzettsHi, any alsa wizards around?20:13
gordon_i am not sure if i am in the right channel i am new (just changed from windows yesterday) to ubuntu and am having video problems20:14
theadmingordon_: What kind of problems?20:14
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MonkeyDustproblems with flash gordon_ ?20:15
gordon_there is video glitches when playing flash20:15
kzettslol MonkeyDust20:15
ntzrmtthihu777dr_willis: we meet again.20:15
theadmingordon_: That tends to happen on some browsers, are you using Chrome/Chromium?20:15
gordon_i am using firefox20:15
kzettsAnyone have any idea why I get excessive background noise while using y phone headset/earphones in the combo/mic jack on my laptop? In windows I can make calls and record stuff via the headset mic in this jack with no issues. In ubuntu and xubuntu i get tons of background noise. Its actually a little clearer with the onboard mic.20:16
gordon_there is a blurred line when i am using libreoffice as well when i scroll up or down20:16
theadmingordon_: Hm, okay, then that's eliminated. Are you using Flash from partner or multiverse (i.e. the one that came with Ubuntu or did you install it  manually)?20:16
theadmingordon_: Ah, now that sounds like a video driver problem already. Can you open up "Additional Drivers" and see if any are available?20:17
gordon_the one ubuntu came with20:17
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gordon_how do i open up the drivers20:17
ntzrmtthihu777looking to install ubuntu on my dell inspiron ONE2205, cannot get the info from here, help? http://people.canonical.com/~hwcert/precise-testing/precise_final.html20:17
theadmingordon_: Which Ubuntu version is this?20:18
gordon_12.0420:18
theadmingordon_: Ok. Hit the Super key (Windows), type "jockey" and hit Enter20:18
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gordon_i  found the additional drivers and it is using nvidia graphics driver (post release updates)20:19
k-stzcan ubuntu 10.04 run geforce 600 series cards?20:21
theadminntzrmtthihu777: Dell is partnered with Canonical and Ubuntu works perfectly on most Dell machines. Just boot the livecd if you want to test.20:21
SonikkuAmericabombard: Did you get your GeForce issue solved?20:21
gordon_in jockey what am i looking for20:21
kzettsNo one has any ideas regarding alsa mic noise/20:21
kzetts?20:21
theadmingordon_: Available drivers (i.e. those with a gray sphere next to them)20:21
wooEverytime I close the screen on a toshiba the screen turns off.  When I open the screen on said laptop it won't turn the screen back on and I cant get a tty1-6 to pop up either.20:21
wooubuntu 12.0420:22
woox6420:22
xkernelcan I install wireless compat-drivers on Quantal?20:22
ntzrmtthihu777theadmin: yeah, I just like reading up on stuffs before I do it.20:22
gordon_there is only three folders in jockey they all have a padlock on them the names are check , installed_packages , nvidia-current-updates.noconf20:23
theadminntzrmtthihu777: Well, looking at hardware specs for that, don't see anything that would have any reason to fail20:23
theadmingordon_: Folders?... Um, I don't think that's the right place20:24
theadmingordon_: jockey is an app20:24
theadmingordon_: okay, hit Alt+F2 and type jockey-gtk then hit Enter20:24
ntzrmtthihu777alt+f2 jockey-gtk20:24
SonikkuAmericawoo: Hit the power button, boot into Ubuntu and go to System Settings > Power.20:25
ntzrmtthihu777anyone here use/try out that gubuntu yet?20:25
gordon_i see three nvidia drivers one has a green button on it the other two are greyed out20:26
OerHeksntzrmtthihu777, what is gubuntu?20:26
wooSonikkuAmerica: So I lose the suspend feature.  my hibernate function is disabled20:26
ntzrmtthihu777gubuntu = ubuntu - unity + full gnome3 desktop20:27
OerHeksoh just an other freaking ubuntu derivate?20:27
theadminOerHeks: Yeah, but it's not released yet...20:27
SonikkuAmericawoo: Is it currently set to Suspend? (Hibernate is disabled because either [a] you don't have swap space or [b] your swap space is less than your total RAM.20:27
SonikkuAmerica)20:27
ntzrmtthihu777:/ no need to get irate, OerHeks20:27
kyanhello20:28
kyancan anyone help me?20:28
SonikkuAmerica!ask | kyan20:28
ubottukyan: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience20:28
ntzrmtthihu777theadmin: you can get the iso from sourceforge, actually. I use gnome-fallback on precise, wondering how good it is relative to fallback.20:28
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theadminntzrmtthihu777: Um, the fallback option isn't what it's going to use, it's going to use Gnome Shell.20:29
kyani've installed xubuntu-desktop from the minimal iso, now the problem is that before the dist-upgrade all usb worked easly now after the upgrade no usb are discovered only ps2 mouse and keyboard but not usb... sorry for my bad english, i'm italian20:29
wooSonikkuAmerica: ya and I found pm-hibernate20:29
jn_newbie question, so I have a line in fstab and I can mount with: mount "mountpoint path", but how can I make it mount automatically on boot ?20:29
OerHeksntzrmtthihu777, sorry, i just wanted to know if it is an official ubuntu, i don't want to end up with no support.20:29
wooSonikkuAmerica: it worked20:29
johnsmithHello. What default programs are installed in Ubuntu 12.04 to defend against ARP poisoning?20:29
ntzrmtthihu777yeah, I get that, I just want to know what it's like20:29
johnsmithI tried googling it, but all I got was stuff telling me how to ARP poison.20:29
gordon_there are two available drivers with the grey sphere next to them they are version experimental- 304 and -31020:30
SonikkuAmericakyan: We do have an Italian channel, I think20:30
SonikkuAmerica!it | kyan20:30
ubottukyan: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)20:30
kyanok thanx :)20:30
k1lno official ubuntu yet, that gubuntu thing20:30
ntzrmtthihu777so I take it no-one has tried it yet then?20:30
SonikkuAmericantzrmtthihu777: I have.20:31
joker_is KDE completely free of all gnome stuff?20:31
ntzrmtthihu777what do you think of it, SonikkuAmerica?20:31
SonikkuAmerica!poll | ntzrmtthihu777, let me remind you20:31
ubottuntzrmtthihu777, let me remind you: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.20:31
k1l!ot | ntzrmtthihu77720:31
ubottuntzrmtthihu777: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!20:31
ntzrmtthihu777SonikkuAmerica: Yeah, I get what works for you may not work for you, just looking for an opinion. k1l: I fail to see how this is off-topic, would it be if I was talking xubuntu or kubuntu?20:33
gordon_ok i tried using one of the other video drivers and it failed and i tried to use the reporting system and it also failed20:33
k1lntzrmtthihu777: "how do you like it" is actually no technical support issue.20:33
SonikkuAmericantzrmtthihu777: Plus, we typically talk about that stuff in -offtopic anyway. So please, take it there.20:34
jakuplI am having problems installing openttd (transport tycoon) on ubuntu 12.1020:34
ntzrmtthihu777:/20:34
jakuplI get this error message20:34
jakuplopenttd: error while loading shared libraries: liblzma.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory20:34
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SonikkuAmericajakupl: Can you do [ sudo apt-get install -f ]?20:35
bekks!info liblzma.so.220:35
ubottuPackage liblzma.so.2 does not exist in quantal20:35
bekks!file liblzma.so.220:35
jackargso i just managed to install ubuntu alongside windows 8 but now how do i get the grub menu if i want to choose ubuntu? (w8 automatically loads)20:35
jakuplI am not installing from repositorys20:35
bekksjakupl: Then you have to install that file somehow.20:35
jakuplI'm using dpkg -i >file<20:35
k1ljakupl: why not using that one from repo?20:36
biloo_oops20:36
jakuplk1l it's outdated20:36
jakuplcan't do multiplayer with it20:36
biloo_oops20:37
jakupland I can't find liblzma.so.2 anywhere20:37
jakuplim using 12.1020:37
biloo_oops20:38
k1ljakupl: that was a fail on building that package i think20:38
k1lbiloo_: stop that pleaase20:38
k1ljakupl: http://bugs.openttd.org/task/472920:39
jackargcan ANYONE answer me about the dual-booting?20:39
SonikkuAmerica!patience | jackarg20:40
ubottujackarg: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/20:40
genii-aroundjakupl: liblzma.so.2 is not in any package of ubuntu. liblzma.so however is, in the liblzma-dev package. It puts the file in either /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/ or /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ depending on your machines architecture. At that point you could symlink liblzma.so.2 to the systems liblzma.so20:40
jakuplk1l thanks but Im trying to install 1.2.320:40
SonikkuAmericajackarg: Are you using an EFI/UEFI machine?20:40
k1ljakupl: i think the one who made that .deb file made some misstakes20:40
wooSonikkuAmerica: got hibernated working with askubuntu.com && jackarg what is the questions?20:40
wooSonikkuAmerica: looks like Xorg and Toshiba have some bugs20:41
jackargSonikkuAmerica yes i am and woo i'm trying to run ubuntu (i think i need to get the grub menu) now that i installed it alongside windows 820:41
SonikkuAmericajackarg: 64-bit?20:41
fishtechAnyone use cinnamon desktop on top of ubuntu and have problems? I didn't like unity that well so i changed to cinnamon. So far everything seems ok. Maybe Someone had some helpful advise about it on top of Ubuntu.20:42
jackargSonikkuAmerica yes 64 bit20:42
k1l!mint | fishtech20:42
ubottufishtech: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org20:42
k1lfishtech: see the mint support for support with cinnamon since it is not supported from ubuntu itself20:43
SonikkuAmericajackarg: OK. Did you check out the community UEFI page?20:43
SonikkuAmerica!uefi20:43
ubottuUEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI20:43
fishtechOk thank you.20:44
jackargSonikkuAmerica no send me a link? do you not have a solution?20:45
dowhilegeekok so I accidentally deleted my boot partition20:45
SonikkuAmericajackarg: Most of what you need is on that page. (Unless you tried that already)20:45
woojackarg: you want grub? on grub 3 right?20:45
fishtechWould you know why Ubuntu will not fuction with jumpdrive. I can't format or really do anything with it.20:45
dowhilegeekI remade the partition on gparted, and I tried reinstalling grub. But apparently I need like, stage 1 and stage 2 files on the partition first? how do I get those?20:46
woojackarg: does it auto boot into linux w/o givnig you a chance to switch?20:46
jackargwoo: I guess a grub is what I need but I wonder how to install it from windows. I just need an option to switch between the two20:46
jackargwoo: it autoboots into w820:46
woojackarg: that right after the bios switches to hdd to boot you need the keep mashing the up and down arrorws at boot20:47
woojackarg: pretend your are trying to select from a list It should pop up.20:47
woojackarg: by default its hidden20:48
jackargwoo: ok lemme try stay here20:48
jackargwoo: thanks :)20:48
wook20:48
mussahi20:48
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ntzrmtthihu777anyone manage to get uck to work for precise x64?20:49
woo!uck | woo20:49
ubottuwoo, please see my private message20:49
mussai need abuntu arabick20:49
genii-around!ar20:49
ubottuLa comunidad local de Argentina se puede encontrar en #ubuntu-ar y en su canal de offtopic: #ubuntu-ar-cafe20:49
genii-aroundBah20:49
ntzrmtthihu777!uck | ntzrmtthihu77720:49
ubottuntzrmtthihu777, please see my private message20:49
genii-around!arabic20:50
ubottuFor Arabic language support, please : /join #ubuntu-arabic : للحصول على الدعم باللغة العربية20:50
woontzrmtthihu777: what is the problum ur having w/ it?20:50
ntzrmtthihu777lol, nice trick that.20:50
salmaan@Musssa, What is your problem?20:50
ntzrmtthihu777well the package manager does not work, so I can't use what it was intended for.20:50
woontzrmtthihu777: what was the problum you had?20:52
SonikkuAmerica!uck | SonikkuAmerica20:52
ubottuSonikkuAmerica, please see my private message20:52
packetfrogdpkg: error processing extlinux (--configure):20:53
packetfrog subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 120:53
packetfrogoops20:53
packetfrogmulti monitor and me are not getting along   dont mind me20:53
woontzrmtthihu777: I have a rebuilt 12.04 x64 I havent iso'd or ran yet.20:53
ntzrmtthihu777have you ever used it? basically it pulls your iso apart, and in that you can install/remove packages. it does not work with precise, because it does not come with synaptic20:53
mussaهاي20:53
ntzrmtthihu777!ar | mussa20:54
ubottumussa: La comunidad local de Argentina se puede encontrar en #ubuntu-ar y en su canal de offtopic: #ubuntu-ar-cafe20:54
SonikkuAmerica!arabic | mussa20:54
ubottumussa: For Arabic language support, please : /join #ubuntu-arabic : للحصول على الدعم باللغة العربية20:54
ntzrmtthihu777nope xD wrong one20:54
gordon_i am having video driver problems i downloaded the linux version from NVIDIA but i don't know the proper procedure for installing them20:54
SonikkuAmerica(Yeah, !ar is Argentina)20:54
woontzrmtthihu777: Failed to copy resolv.conf, error=120:54
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ntzrmtthihu777yeah, forget exactly what the issue was, been a while since I fiddled with it.20:55
jackargwoo: no it does not work i just booted into w8 again i think there's not grub20:55
winterpkHi all20:55
gordon_what channel do i need to go to for technical help with video drivers20:56
winterpkI'm having an issue with permissions where if a user uploads from one computer it sets to 775 but the same user from a nother computer sets to 755? What could cause that?20:56
woo! grub3 | jackarg20:56
woo! grub | jackarg20:57
ubottujackarg: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub220:57
woojackarg: but, there is a trick I would try20:57
bekkswinterpk: How do those users "upload"? And to which Ubuuntu version?20:57
jackargwhat is that woo?20:57
winterpkbekks, using Coda IDE and Filezilla.20:58
woojackarg: live boot a ubu cd and a sudo grub-install20:58
jackargk i'll try20:58
bekkswinterpk: And using WHICH protocol for uploading?20:58
winterpkssh20:58
woojackarg: or you could use a puppy linux cd to install grub4dos20:58
bekkswinterpk: ssh can upload at all. Do you mean SFTP or FTPS?20:59
bekkswinterpk: *cant20:59
alagosHello20:59
woohello20:59
winterpksorry yeah sftp20:59
winterpkShell FTP20:59
wooI have a question.  If you run ubuntu live to install grub to /dev/sda will in recognize the kernel version of the iso or the sda?21:00
bekkswinterpk: The abbreviation stands for "secure FTP".21:00
winterpkoops ok21:00
bekkswinterpk: Do you use SFTP in both clients, or does one of them just use FTP?21:00
winterpkboth clients21:00
winterpkSFTP21:00
winterpkI don't even have an FTP server set up21:00
alagosI'd like to ask about ubuntu 12.04 and laptop lenovo Z580. Is it possible to install it on this laptop and work?21:00
bekkswinterpk: And which Ubuntu versions are involved?21:01
winterpk12.04 LTS21:01
meeti am trying to install python-glade2 on 12.04 but getting some error like not find in current software sources. how do i install it?21:01
woojackarg: I think it would work and just to try I'm going to attempt it with my pc to see if it crashes ok?21:01
dowhilegeekwhat filesystem should I use for a grub partition?21:01
bekksdowhilegeek: Do you mean /boot ?21:02
PhysicistI have a doubt. What is the difference between I install the normal ubuntu iso and install the server os?21:02
dowhilegeeklike, ext2, etx21:02
ldiamond12.04: I sometimes get popups saying some system application had a problem, can't get any information about it, only click "report problem" which asks for my password. I don't know what failed or why, I don't want to provide my password to some random popups. Is there a log I should be looking at?21:02
bekksdowhilegeek: Do you mean /boot?21:02
Styler2goWould someone have time to help me setting up iptables?21:03
dowhilegeekbekks: sure21:03
jpdsStyler2go: That depends on what you need21:03
PhysicistI should have a server with many computers?21:03
jpdsStyler2go: And you'll likely find better help on #ubuntu-server.21:03
bekksdowhilegeek: ext2 is full sufficient for /boot21:03
Styler2goi want to block ips if they have more than a specific amount of requests per secound21:03
jpdsPhysicist: What do you need a server for? File storage? Authentication?21:03
yeatsStyler2go: you probably want to look into fail2ban21:03
jpdsStyler2go: sudo ufw heelp21:04
winterpkbekks: any thoughts on what could cause that?21:04
PhysicistI want make a proxy system..21:04
jpdsStyler2go: And look at the 'limit' option.21:04
SolarisBoyrate limiting/ throlling21:04
SolarisBoyits possible in iptables - no need for extra sw21:04
Physicistjpds: Is it possible with my notebook?21:04
Styler2goufw not found21:04
jpds!ufw | Styler2go21:04
ubottuStyler2go: Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo | GUI frontends such as Gufw (GNOME) and Guarddog (KDE from Lucid onwards) also exist.21:04
Styler2goisnt it iptables? o.O21:05
jpdsStyler2go: It is.21:05
Styler2gooh21:05
jpdsStyler2go: ufw just makes it easier.21:05
SolarisBoyufw is a stupifier for iptables21:05
Styler2goso the command is iptables, or?21:05
SolarisBoyor not21:05
jpdsSolarisBoy: ...21:05
SolarisBoyheh21:05
Styler2gobecuase i dont have ufw but iptables21:05
jpdsPhysicist: Sure, but you'd likely want it on the device that's always on.21:05
jpdsStyler2go: Well, apt-get install ufw should do it.21:05
jpdsStyler2go: But if you want to use iptables, go for it.21:06
caasperI need to reset my GPG passphrase; I used `gpg -c filename.txt` but the passphrase I provided is invalid.21:06
Styler2gowhats better?21:06
caasperAny help?21:06
bekkswinterpk: Different permissions on the clients.21:06
jpdsStyler2go: ufw is just a front-end for iptables.21:06
Physicistjpds: how can I create my own proxy system with my notebook and server image?21:06
jpdsStyler2go: You want to limit a port, it's as easy as: sudo ufw limit 22; sudo ufw enable21:06
wooStyler2go: what is ubu version are you running?21:07
jpdsStyler2go: Replace 22 with the port you want to limit.21:07
SolarisBoybut there is no way to customize the parameters via ufw21:07
jpdsPhysicist: Well, that's a good question, you'd have to look into something like squid.21:07
SolarisBoyso if your ok with that - ufw would work if not youll need to use iptables directly21:07
wooPhysicist: I do that21:08
Styler2gohttp://pastebin.com/v0NrrtxZ21:08
winterpkbekks: so it has to be in the clients themselves right?  Not on the server.21:08
jpdsStyler2go: Check dmesg ?21:08
jpdsStyler2go: Make sure you do: ufw allow 22 --- to make sure you don't block SSH.21:08
Styler2gohttp://pastebin.com/T5usXBwJ21:09
caasperAnyone familiar with gpg? I need to reset my passphrase as it's invalid.21:09
Physicistwoo: How.. Give something..21:09
Styler2gook its online21:09
Physicistjpds: squid.. Is is a website?21:09
jpdscaasper: If you forgot your passphrase, I think you'll need to create a new key.21:09
Styler2goif i use ab now, it should block me, right?21:09
wooPhysicist: !ssh | Physicist21:09
jpdsStyler2go: Look at: sudo ufw status verbose21:09
woo!ssh | Physicist21:09
ubottuPhysicist: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon)21:09
jpdsPhysicist: No, it's a proxying software.21:10
jpds!squid | Physicist21:10
ubottuPhysicist: squid is a caching proxy for the Web.  See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SquidGuard  See: http://www.squid-cache.org21:10
caasperjpds: I didn't forget it, but after entering it for `gpg -c` it informed me it was invalid, but running the command again uses the same key21:10
wooPhysicist: I use dd alot and just mod on the server21:10
Styler2gojpds: port 80 limit in, port 22 allow in21:10
Styler2goStatus active21:10
jpdsStyler2go: Good, so it's online.21:10
jpdsStyler2go: See: 'man ufw' for details.21:10
Styler2goso ab should get blocked, right?21:10
jpdsStyler2go: ab?21:11
Styler2goapache benchmarkt21:11
Physicist!scp | Physicist21:11
ubottuPhysicist, please see my private message21:11
Styler2go-t21:11
jpdsStyler2go: The limit rule blocks the port to 6 new connections every 30 seconds.21:11
jpdsStyler2go: That's what the man page says.21:11
woogood luck21:12
Physicistjpds: Thank you. I found something interesting.21:14
Styler2gonow i cant access my server21:14
Styler2govia ssh21:14
tcstarquick question -- just got a HP G7-2317cl.. installed ubuntu on it -- trying to find drivers that'll work to enable the on/off button for the touchpad (sometimes i use it, sometimes i dont)21:14
tcstarany ideas on where to head?21:15
jpdsStyler2go: You sure the allow 22 rule was in?21:15
bekkswinterpk: Yes.21:15
Styler2goyes21:16
uttergleehey all, good morning21:17
uttergleeI just started a new VPS21:17
Styler2gowhat now jpds? :D21:17
jpdsStyler2go: And SSH is on port 22?21:17
jpdsStyler2go: Should work in that case.21:17
Styler2goyes it is21:18
uttergleeI've got SSH keys on my windows system, and I want to be able to connect to the remote vps21:18
uttergleeI did ssh-keygen on the remote, and there's id_rsa.pub there21:18
uttergleeI've got another public key on my windows computer21:18
caasperI still need to create a new passphrase for GPG, since it's invalid; I've tried to generate a new key but to no avail.21:18
uttergleeso how do I copy this one to there, without overwriting that file?21:18
uttergleecan I name it anything I want?21:18
uttergleemaybe, local.pub?21:19
tcstarutterglee -- i generally do the keygen on my local machine then cat it over to the remote server....  the company you got your VPS through should have a guide on how to do this21:19
uttergleetcstar, I need to connect to bitbucket over SSH, I am going to add the public key I generated as a 'deployment key' (allows read only access to repo)21:20
uttergleeso the server has it's own id_rsa.pub, my computer has it's own too, I'm just confused about how to let them co-exist21:20
tcstarooh that one i don't know much...  i generally don't deal with bitbucket.. so I can't help you with that one..21:20
uttergleeso I can connect from my computer to server, and server can connect to bitbucket, etc21:20
DoxinI'm trying to run bind9 but the init script is failing, running it by hand works fine. what's going on?21:20
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uttergleetcstar, nah this is not bitbucket specific21:21
johnsmithIs it considered bad taste to repeat questions after more people have logged in?21:21
tcstarwell perhaps i'm confused as to what it is you're wanting....21:21
tcstardepends on how long it's been since you asked last johnsmith...21:21
Styler2gowhat port would be a ping?21:21
Styler2gomy server is not responding to pings xD21:21
tcstarif I have a question -- i'll usually wait a good 20/30  minutes before trying again (but of course i'm googling the entire time)21:22
bekksStyler2go: Then enable ICMP.21:22
johnsmithtcstar Thanks, it's been an hour so I'll give it another go.21:22
johnsmithWhat are the default security features in Ubuntu 12.04 (up to date) to help protect against ARP poisoning/spoofing etc? I'm not running a server, just a regular ol' desktop distro.21:23
uttergleetcstar, I want the server and my computer to have their own SSH public keys21:24
johnsmithtcstar All of my googling has just told me to modify certain files or tried to teach me how to do MITM attacks21:24
Styler2gook what can i do if ssh is blocked?21:24
madsailorhi all.  Ubuntu 12.04.  After my last round of updates when a program window is maximized and the dropdown menus are integrated in the top bar, when I mouse over to the min/max/restore buttons they dissappear and are replaced by the app/window title21:24
uttergleeI am confused that copying my computer's id_rsa.pub to the server, will overwrite the server's key21:24
angswhat is the command to search a file on the whole fs?21:25
Walexangs:  depends...21:25
madsailorthis makes it impossible to min/exit the window.  How can I revert this behavior?21:25
bekksutterglee: Use another target filename then.21:25
tcstarutterglee -- depending on the method you use -- it'll append your key to the key that's there....21:25
uttergleeangs, I use `ls -alR | grep -i 'yoursearchhere'` : note this is a n00b constructed command, you may find better alternatives21:25
angswalex, I would like to search for gpio.h21:25
bekkstcstar: Thats wrong.21:25
angsthank you utterglee21:26
bekksutterglee: Copy your LOCAL .pub key into the SERVER's authorized_keys file.,21:26
uttergleebekks, I can name my client's public key anything other than id_rsa.pub, and SSH will take care of matching the right key? (let's say I have another client, client_2.pub)21:26
uttergleethat is awesome...21:26
Walexangs: try 'find / -name ...' or 'locate' .... or 'dpkg -S'  or 'apt-file search' depending21:26
bekksutterglee: No.21:27
bekksutterglee: Read again what I wrote please.21:27
Walexutterglee: your question seem to make little sense21:27
darkhelmet46howdy all21:27
darkhelmet46can anyone help me with some problems i am having with the wubi-move script?21:27
uttergleeangs, you gotta be in the root / directory for what I typed to work21:28
angsutterglee, thank you21:28
uttergleeor you could say `ls -alR / | grep -i 'yoursearch'`21:28
theadmin...really?21:28
theadminfind / -iname 'something'21:28
uttergleewell I did warn that is n00b stuff :p21:29
Walexutterglee: that's an incredibly slow way21:29
uttergleetrue, `find` looks way nicer21:29
uttergleecool then I will shift to using that from now21:30
theadminOr even just "locate something", given indices are up-to-date.21:30
krstn420_hello21:30
uttergleebekks, let's say I did ssh-keygen on my first PC and got an id_rsa.pub generated21:31
bekksutterglee: Then copy the content of that file into authorized_keys on the server, as I said.21:31
uttergleeto connect to the server, I copy this file to the server's ~/.ssh/authorized_keys folder, great21:31
krstn420_could anyone help me to set up pyload to start up at boot. im pretty desperate by now :(21:31
uttergleenow the server has an id_rsa.pub file in that folder21:32
krstn420_i tried so  much stuff, but it never starts if i reboot21:32
bekksutterglee: Read what I wrote. I told you twice already what to do.21:32
uttergleenow I went ahead and ran the same process in my second PC21:32
chuckfHow do I recover a mailman admin password for an ubuntu mailing list?21:32
uttergleeI got another id_rsa.pub now, so now I can't use it?21:32
utterglee"use a different target file": you mean ask ssh-keygen to call it something else?21:33
tekgeekanyone know  ntfsundelete?21:33
bekksutterglee: Read what I wrote to you twice.21:33
bekksutterglee: After doing so, read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys21:33
uttergleeIt's annoying that it depends on the file name21:34
darkhelmet46can anyone help me with some problems i am having with the wubi-move script?21:34
ShizuoI officially approve Ubuntu21:34
bekksutterglee: It doesnt. READ the link please, as well as what I wrote to you.21:34
uttergleebekks, sorry to be slow but I can't figure it out21:34
LiquidEssenceHello. I am running Xubuntu. Whenever I reactivate my computer from sleep/hibernation mode the speakers make a loud notification sound at pretty much maximum volume. Is there any way to turn the system sounds completely off?21:35
uttergleeI swear I read 'what you wrote' each time your ordered me to21:35
uttergleelet me try again21:35
maco_Hello21:35
Monotokoc# is a horrible horrible language :(21:35
bekksutterglee: I wrote exact instructions on what you should do - why dont you read THEM?21:35
theadminLiquidEssence: Sure, go to pavucontrol ('sound settings' in Xubuntu methinks) and mute the "System Sounds" channel21:35
uttergleebekks, you said "copy the contents of the file into /authorized_keys"21:36
LiquidEssence@theadmin: they are muted21:36
bekksutterglee: No, I didnt.21:36
LiquidEssencebut it still makes that sound21:36
uttergleeyou actually did21:36
utterglee<bekks> utterglee: Then copy the content of that file into authorized_keys on the server, as I said.21:36
bekksutterglee: I didnt. I NEVER used / in what I wrote to you.21:36
LiquidEssencewhenever it goes to sleep or returns from sleep21:36
uttergleeoh21:36
theadminLiquidEssence: Hm, okay, I guess that doesn't qualify as "system" then for whatever reason... I never got such a sound on Xubuntu though so it's kinda odd21:36
uttergleeright21:36
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* utterglee kicks self21:36
bekksutterglee: And did you read the link too?21:37
datruthanyone use winamp+dsp in virtualbox?21:37
LiquidEssence@theadmin: maybe it's a hardware thing? I have a Lenovo laptop21:37
theadminLiquidEssence: Hardware playing sounds is... scary21:37
LiquidEssenceit does the same thing on my Windows OS as well21:37
madsailorI cant min/close a window that is maxed from the titlebar in 12.04 after last update. Controls are replaced with window title on mouseover.  Any help?21:37
uttergleeit's funny how I encountered that file before, had to edit it to get rid of 'man in the middle' attack warnings, and yet I thought you were talking about a folder21:37
theadminutterglee: Just call the file something other than "id_rsa.pub" when copying it to authorized_keys.21:37
theadminOr not21:38
uttergleeno theadmin it's a file...21:38
uttergleewhere I copy my contents of id_rsa.pub21:38
theadminutterglee: doh, was just following the conversation21:38
theadminutterglee: Well, then copy the contents of multiple files there21:38
uttergleethis is beautiful21:39
uttergleethanks bekks21:39
theadminutterglee: From "man sshd": " Each line of the file contains one key (empty lines and lines starting with a ‘#’ are ignored as comments). So there you go.21:40
LiquidEssence@theadmin: it's probably have to do with my computer as such; my brother has an ASUS laptop and it doesn't make any sound on his Xubuntu distro, when he puts it into suspend mode21:41
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gordon_i am new to ubuntu and i am having video driver issues where there is a horizontal blur line 3/4 of the way up my screen i tried to use the experimental video drivers and was left with a black screen i reinstalled ubuntu 12.04 and tried 12.10 both of them have issues with the video card i downloaded the newest drivers from nvidia but don't know how to install them21:41
Eino_Hi. I need some help with my 64-bit installation of Ubuntu 12.1021:41
theadminLiquidEssence: Well, this is the weirdest thing ever then21:42
Eino_I have several problems.21:42
utterglee9921:42
theadminEino_: Just ask the questions.21:42
LiquidEssence@theadmin: yes i can imagine :) I just don't know how to fix it :) I'l look around the web some more if this is a Lenovo specific issue21:42
boom0917noticed theres suspect packages in the synaptic package manager under Gparted has anyone else noticed that or are those allright to install21:43
Eino_Every second boot has only black screen. No GRUB, nothing. Just black.21:43
theadminLiquidEssence: Well, no such sounds on a Dell.21:43
LiquidEssencetheadmin: I guess my computer is soooo special then :)21:43
Eino_2. Steam for Linux tells me: You are missing the following 32-bit libraries, and Steam may not run: käynnistettävää21:43
Eino_käynnistettävää means = starting in english21:43
theadminEino_: How did you install Steam? You should use the Software Center.21:44
LiquidEssencetheadmin: thx a lot for now, I will look for some more info!21:44
Eino_Theadmin: I did.21:44
Eino_I downloaded the .deb file from steampowered.com and it took me to software centre21:44
theadminEino_: That's not what I'm talking about21:44
theadminEino_: I'm talking about the version of Steam that's available *in* the software center21:44
zztrjoin #ubuntutablet21:45
zztroops.21:45
maitakeHi ubuntu support. I'm currently using gnome3 shell for my DE. Any idea why regardless of whether I erase the data on my drive, my gnome-shell extensions act like they're installed again? They show up on tweak tool and also on the "Installed Extensions" list on site, yet I can't remove them and they're nowhere to be found in .local/share/gnome-shell/extensions21:45
Eino_You want the package name?21:45
theadminEino_: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/steam/21:46
theadminEino_: This one.21:46
LabanI need some advice... When playing videos with AC3 audio, some channels are lost in the playback. In general music is playing OK, but not talk. Tested with Totem, VLC and XBMC. HDMI audio, SPDIF plugged into the graphics card internally.21:47
Eino_How I can uninstall the old one21:47
LabanHow can I fix this?21:47
Eino_Nykyiset käyttämäsi ohjelmistolähteet eivät sisällä pakettia "steam".21:47
Eino_it didn't found the package steam21:47
theadminEino_: sudo apt-get remove steam:i38621:47
Eino_sudo apt-get remove steam:i38621:48
Eino_Package 'steam:i386' is not installed, so not removed21:48
theadminEino_: Eh, okay, dpkg -l '*steam*' | pastebinit21:48
jackargwoo: so I figured that I can get windows by chaning the boot order and putting the windows boot loader on top and get ubuntu if I put the hdd on top. what do you think of that?21:49
LiquidEssencetheadmin: I found the solution. It is a Lenovo specific function. The Beep alarms had to be turned off in the BIOS setup!21:49
Eino_http://paste.nerv.fi/27747570.txt21:49
jackargcould someone please help me I cannot change my brightness in ubuntu 12.04 !!21:49
theadminEino_: Okay, that's an odd one. But remove that "steam-launcher" and use the Software Center to install Steam (not the .deb file, just search for steam in the Software Center)21:50
Eino_it doesn't found package steam-launcher in software centre21:50
jon_wI'm trying to run "sudo -u gitlab -H bundle install --deployment --without development test mysql" but keep getting "sudo: bundle: command not found" because bundle isn't installed for root. How can I run this command then?21:50
Eino_how to uninstall that?21:51
theadminEino_: sudo apt-get remove steam-launcher21:51
uttergleeokay, that worked, I can now connect over SSH, cool21:51
uttergleehow did the system know? I mean, I added a key to authorized_keys, how did the system know to immediately start using key instead of asking for a password?21:52
theadminjon_w: Use the full path to where "bundle" resides.21:52
Eino_it does not found anything about steam21:52
theadminutterglee: sshd checks the file whenever you connect21:52
jackargdoes anyone know why I can't change my brightness?21:52
Eino_it founds some random apps but not the steam21:52
theadminEino_: Which Ubuntu version are you on?21:52
jon_wtheadmin thx21:52
Eino_12.1021:52
uttergleenice!21:52
blackrosebladeWoah, lots of people here. :O21:52
theadminEino_: drrr... It should be there.21:53
theadminAnyway I'm off21:53
blackrosebladeSo I've got a liveusb here and I'd like to make it persistent. I tried this: http://shallowsky.com/blog/linux/install/ubuntu-persistent-live-cd.html21:53
blackrosebladeBut unfortunately it can't find casper-rw. Since its a liveusb I'm not exactly sure where to point it to.21:54
jon_wohai21:54
Eino_I have too much problems with this f***ing Canoncial bul***it. Does not found Steam, every second boot has black screen, cannot set to autolaunch Ubuntu have to use GRUB. Random system fatal errors. CAps LOck PROblem.21:54
yonghello world21:55
SolarisBoysounds bad21:55
Eino_Can someone help me?21:55
blackrosebladei've never had issues with ubuntu, even when running out of the box. it just...works.21:55
MonkeyDustEino_  start with minding your language21:55
SolarisBoy+121:55
Eino_I would, but this just NOT work!21:55
blackrosebladeSteam can be frustrating21:55
PengunCSChey guys\21:55
blackrosebladeBut yes, i would agree...calm down...21:56
Eino_I want operating system that works, but this does not. There are FEW problems: Does not found Steam, every second boot has black screen, cannot set to autolaunch Ubuntu have to use GRUB. Random system fatal errors. CAps LOck PROblem.21:56
blackrosebladeThese people aren't exactly getting paid to help you.21:56
MonkeyDustEino_  steam for linux is still in beta, you can't blame linux for that21:56
PengunCSCI am trying to enable the HDMI port on my nVidia 21021:56
Eino_Monkey, overread that still21:56
Eino_I have still many problems: every second boot has black screen, cannot set to autolaunch Ubuntu have to use GRUB. Random system fatal errors. CAps LOck PROblem.21:56
blackrosebladeAre you new to Ubuntu/linux?21:56
PengunCSCThe nvidia-settings util says the driver is not new enough to show the Xorg settings21:57
Eino_I have used Linux before21:57
Eino_and always uninstalled Ubuntu because it does not ork21:57
blackrosebladeno one says linux...21:57
Eino_i wanted to give it a try21:57
Eino_but..21:57
Eino_And I have not problems with steam21:57
blackrosebladeWell it takes time to work just like any new system.21:57
Eino_it just DOES NOT FOUND THE PACKAGE21:57
blackrosebladeErm, have you followed the instructions on steam's support?21:58
Eino_yes21:58
blackrosebladeAdded the repository, enabled it, tried getting it manually through terminal?21:58
Eino_Every second boot is black - it is not about my experience.21:58
Eino_yes yes yes21:58
Eino_Even downloaded the package manually21:58
blackrosebladeDunno, I did the same and mine works like a charm.21:58
PengunCSCcan anyone help with nVidia?21:58
Eino_No luck with this F***untu.21:59
blackrosebladePengunCSC: you'll have to wait a bit, it seems.21:59
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SolarisBoyEino_: have you checked your log files like Xorg.0 for display issues?21:59
k1lEino_: i would suggest to target every issue as a single task21:59
blackrosebladeI'm waiting for someone to help me change my liveusb to persistent21:59
MonotokoPengunCSC, what's up? I have an nVidia card21:59
SolarisBoyEino_: what happends when you type apt-cache policy steam?21:59
Eino_Solaris: how? I can paste if you give me instructionsa21:59
Eino_SolarisBoy:  let me check21:59
PengunCSCMonotoko: I have a geforce 21021:59
Monotokoblackroseblade, have a look at unetbootin - but you'll have to format the drive first22:00
wiggmpkEino_: are you trying to install steam?22:00
PengunCSCI am trying to activate the HDMI port22:00
SolarisBoyEino_: sudo apt-get install pastebinit22:00
Monotokoit has an option for persistent storage22:00
MonotokoPengunCSC, what's the problem?22:00
PengunCSCNo multiple screens in the native Displays tool22:00
PengunCSCThe nvidia-settings util says the driver is not new enough to show the Xorg settings22:00
SolarisBoyEino_: when you have output to post pipe it to the command "uptime | pastebinit" . and post the link which is returned on your terminal22:00
SolarisBoyEino_: thats an example there is no need to actually run uptime however22:01
MonotokoPengunCSC, ahhh... I can't help you there sorry :( I'm too poor to have multiple screens :P22:01
maxbithy i have a little question how is the console called that opens when you press ctrl+ Fx ?22:01
Eino_http://paste.nerv.fi/28895476.txt22:01
blackroseblademaxbit: you mean the terminal?22:01
maxbitjap my problem is that it doesn't open on my xubuntu22:02
wiggmpkEino_: are you running 32bit or 64bit Ubuntu?22:02
Monotokomaxbit, ctrl+alt+F1 ?22:02
Eino_64bit22:02
SolarisBoyEino_: Installed (none) in your language? in that output?22:03
maxbit-.^ my foult22:03
wiggmpkEino_: are you trying to install Steam64?22:03
Eino_yes22:03
maxbitthx22:03
darkhelmet46Can anyone help me with migrating a Wubi install?22:03
Eino_i can try22:03
Eino_sudo apt-get install Steam64 ?22:03
SolarisBoyEino_: what architecture is your hardware?22:03
wiggmpkEino_: sudo dpkg --add-architecture i38622:03
wiggmpkEino_: then "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get install steam64"22:04
Monotokodarkhelmet46, migrate to where?22:04
darkhelmet46Monotoko, migrate to its own partition.22:04
Eino_wiggmpk: will try22:04
MonotokoI believe you will need to reinstall...22:04
bekkswiggmpk: Which will make your system mix up i386 and x86_64 forever.22:04
bekksEino_: Dont do it until you knwo what those commands do.22:04
SolarisBoymadness..22:04
wiggmpkbekks: steam depends on i386 packages22:04
darkhelmet46Monotoko, I tried this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/635/how-to-convert-wubi-install-into-regular-install22:05
Eino_SolarisBoy: I don't really know. I have AMD Phenom Quad-Core N97022:05
darkhelmet46But it errored out.22:05
k1lwiggmpk: it should isntall that by itself22:05
gordon_i have a video problem i am running 64bit 12.04 tried the drivers from additional drivers and one of them left me with a black screen so i had to reinstall ubuntu again22:05
Monotokodarkhelmet46, what was the error?22:05
bekkswiggmpk: I know. But there is NO reason to force your system mixing up architectures. Steam will pull all dependencies needed.22:05
Eino_does not found package stea422:05
Eino_steam6422:05
darkhelmet46wubi-move.sh:  An error occurred within chroot22:05
darkhelmet46wubi-move.sh:  Error is: /usr/sbin/grub-bios-setup: warning: this LDM has no Embedding Partition; embedding won't be possible22:05
darkhelmet46/usr/sbin/grub-bios-setup: warning: Embedding is not possible.  GRUB can only be installed in this setup by using blocklists.  However, blocklists are UNRELIABLE and their use is discouraged..22:06
darkhelmet46/usr/sbin/grub-bios-setup: error: will not proceed with blocklists.22:06
SolarisBoyEino_: have you run apt-get update after you added whatever ppa you added?22:06
Eino_ppa?22:07
Eino_I did update and then tried the package22:07
Eino_no luck22:07
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SolarisBoyi dont recall steam being in the ubuntu repo22:07
Eino_[00:03] <wiggmpk> Eino_: sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 [00:04] <wiggmpk> Eino_: then "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get install steam64"22:07
Monotokodarkhelmet46, what command did you run?22:07
bekksEino_: First, you should undo that sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386, it will lead to problems in the future.22:08
Eino_how22:08
k1lSolarisBoy: it isnt22:08
Eino_bekks: how?22:08
SolarisBoyso i wonder how this is complexing Eino_ .22:08
darkhelmet46Monotoko, sudo bash wubi-move.sh /dev/sda2 /dev/sda322:08
SolarisBoyif you haven't added the ppa for steam the package wont be available22:09
k1lyou need a own repo for steam22:09
blackrosebladehow do I uninstall X server and install nvidia's 310.xx drivers?22:09
Monotokodarkhelmet46, I have an idea... download the Ubuntu LiveCD, run the command again with "--no-bootloader" then install the bootloader from the live CD22:09
k1lSolarisBoy: yep22:09
blackrosebladeOh God, so many questions. D:22:09
Eino_first tell me how to undo that udo dpkg --add-architecture i38622:09
Eino_before adding any new repo22:09
bekksblackroseblade: You do NOT uninstall the X server.22:09
Eino_*sudo dpkg --add-architecture i38622:09
SolarisBoyheh22:09
k1lblackroseblade: dont uninstall x server22:09
blackrosebladeoh dear. then what do I do?22:09
wiggmpkk1l: bekks: i have to leave atm, but could one of you PM me with what problems it may cause by adding the another architecture, still learning myself22:09
blackrosebladeLuckily it's a liveusb, so I can still experiment and learn without breaking anything.22:09
Eino_lol crap22:10
Eino_they tell me to undo22:10
k1lblackroseblade: install nvidia-current22:10
blackrosebladeIt says please exit X server before installing nvidia22:10
Eino_but then don't tell how to do that22:10
Eino_.22:10
bekksblackroseblade: Just install the latest nvidia driver: nvidia-current22:10
blackrosebladeAlright kll, installing nvidia current22:10
SolarisBoyEino_: dont just type commands people give you without knowing what they will do in the future22:10
k1lEino_: your only chance is to calm down. your tone is not helping and not motivating others to help you22:10
darkhelmet46Monotoko, Here was my idea, technically the bootloader must already be installed, otherwise I wouldn't be able to dual-boot to the Wubi install of Ubuntu, correct?  So can I just edit the existing bootloader and give it the new path?22:11
raydeoanyone have tips on determining why a filesystem won't unmount? I have a lvm-over-luks setup and cannot close the luks device (after deactivating lvm) http://paste.ubuntu.com/5559891/22:11
Monotokodarkhelmet46, not exactly... it's the Windows bootloader that boots into WUBI22:11
blackrosebladewill 3D acceleration work with this?22:11
Eino_SolarisBoy: what kind of support channel this is then?22:11
k1lblackroseblade: that will install 304.43 nvidia driver22:11
blackrosebladeAnd how does it differ from the 310?22:11
SolarisBoyEino_: a free one22:11
darkhelmet46mono Crap.22:11
Eino_it would be nice if I can trust official support channels22:11
darkhelmet46Monotoko, Crap.22:11
Eino_one says one thing and another another22:11
dryhayhi. I'm missing my ibus sometimes. could someone check it, please: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=211667322:11
SolarisBoyEino_: it doesn't matter who it is tell you something. support or not. have some common sense about your self.22:12
Monotokodarkhelmet46, you need the GRUB bootloader which it can't install from the Wubi for whatever reason... but you can still do the transfer, then just boot from the LiveCD and install the bootloader from there22:12
Eino_SolarisBoy: ok, could you then please tell me how to undo that?22:12
blackrosebladeI thought that the latest nvidia 310 releases improved a lot on 3d accel on linux?22:12
SolarisBoyEino_: im investigating.22:12
Eino_of course i could end my life with format /22:12
Eino_*sudo format /22:12
darkhelmet46Monotoko, I will try that.  I believe it did everything except install Grub, so I should be able to burn a liveCD and do that.  What would be the procedure?22:12
Eino_SolarisBoy: ok :)22:12
k1lblackroseblade: install nvidia-experimental-310 if you want 310. or if you need it. but be aware of that experimental22:12
SolarisBoywhats format?22:13
SolarisBoyheh22:13
bekksSolarisBoy: echo|format ;)22:13
blackrosebladeWhat about 313 then? All of them are certified apparently.22:13
SolarisBoylol22:13
Monotokodarkhelmet46, same procedure as here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows22:13
blackrosebladeNot WHQL I mean, but certified for unix22:13
SolarisBoyalias format="dd"22:13
Eino_sudo format /22:13
Eino_will that work?22:13
Eino_xD22:13
SolarisBoydude... dont worry about that22:13
bekksEino_: No. That command does not exist.22:13
darkhelmet46Monotoko, Thanks I will give it a shot.  Question, the LiveCD I have is probably from version 8 or 9 of Ubuntu, do you think that matters?22:13
k1lblackroseblade: be aware of that experimental22:14
Eino_oh22:14
SolarisBoylol he was ready to do it too...22:14
Monotokodarkhelmet46, you should probably use the latest22:14
SolarisBoysmh -22:14
blackrosebladeHmmm, alright then kll, I'll stick with nvidia current.22:14
Ast001hello I can not make my wireless keyboard and mouse to work under ubuntu 12.04. Here is pastebin: Bus 001 Device 004: ID 05fe:0011 Chic Technology Corp. Browser Mouse can you help me ?22:14
ShizuoSTOP THE HATE22:14
Eino_sudo rmdir / could be cool?22:14
Eino_:D22:14
Ast001ops sorry http://pastebin.ca/231692722:14
k1lEino_: what is the issue now?22:14
bekksEino_: No. Posting nonsense like that is NOT cool.22:14
neirpycblackroseblade, are you on a Macbook?22:14
k1lEino_: do you want help or just rant and flame?22:14
blackrosebladeNow, for my original query. How can I turn my liveusb persistent?22:14
Monotokodarkhelmet46, I can't remember when... but at some point they switched from GRUB to GRUB222:14
blackrosebladeneirpyc: no, ordinary desktop22:15
gordon_i am using nvidia current and get video glitches with my card22:15
blackrosebladeintel, kingston ram, nvidia card, the works22:15
Eino_To undo command: 00:03] <wiggmpk> Eino_: sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 [00:04] <wiggmpk> Eino_: then "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get install steam64"22:15
Eino_i mean this: sudo dpkg --add-architecture i38622:15
Eino_must undo it22:15
SolarisBoyEino_: can you paste the output of dpkg --print-foreign-architectures and dpkg --print-architecture (to paste bin)22:16
rickbi wish ubuntu supported the gforce gfx 560 :(22:16
blackrosebladerickb: i thought nvidia's latest drivers do support it?22:16
blackrosebladeIt's about nvidia, not ubuntu iirc22:16
wiggmpkSolarisBoy: couldn't he just remove the entry from /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/multiarch?22:17
rickbtrue but the latest drivers just break X22:17
Monotokorickb, there's a special way to install them22:17
Eino_SolarisBoy: ok22:17
SolarisBoyi guess - i never used that argument22:17
rickbMonotoko: adding the repo and then installin the package?22:17
Monotokorickb, no... hold on let me find what I used22:17
rickboh cool22:17
Eino_http://paste.ubuntu.com/5559913/22:17
SolarisBoyi was reading the man page to confirm - if you know that you can do it wiggmpk may as well suggest huh?22:18
neirpycMonotoko, what trick is that? When I try to install nvidia-current-updates on my Macbook, it wrecks everything when it tries to start x.22:18
gordon_how do you see what is on your system (hardware)22:18
rickbgordon_: sudo lspci |more22:18
Eino_dpkg: virhe: --print-foreign-architectures ei tarvitse määrittelyjä = dpkg: error: --print-foreign-architectures does not need prefences22:18
Eino_or something..22:18
SolarisBoylshw too22:18
_d4vidhello guys i have a questions after install 12.04.2 i become kernel 3.5 or need upgrade from 3.2 to 3.5 version of kernel? please help me22:18
SolarisBoyEino_: thats incorrect sytax in your paste22:19
Monotokorickb, here: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/ubuntu-quetzal-nvidia.html22:19
SolarisBoyit's two commands22:19
Monotokoyou need to install the kernel sources first22:19
Eino_oh22:19
Eino_xD22:19
SolarisBoyremove the and and press enter instead22:19
Monotokoso it can build the modules and not break X in the process22:19
rickbMonotoko: thank you, i'm already botched.22:19
rickbthat helps22:19
neirpycMonotoko, when I tried that, it just kept telling me that the linux-headers and stuff weren't needed and wanted to autoremove them. Is that normal?22:20
rickbok imma go try this.22:20
Eino_http://paste.ubuntu.com/5559915/22:20
rickbneirpyc: macs are all messed up with anything not mac lol22:20
rickbbrb22:20
SolarisBoywhy is --add-architecture not in the man page for dpkg?22:20
gordon_is there a way to see what specific video card is on my system or what ubuntu thinks it is22:20
Monotokoneirpyc, was this after you installed the drivers?22:20
_d4vidanybody can answer me?22:21
Eino_SolarisBoy: what?22:21
_d4vidplease22:21
_d4vidguys22:21
FahAnyone running ubuntu on a macbook pro? I need to pass the kernel some options when it boots so i can fix my nvidia driver. How do you pause the efi boot loader?22:21
_d4vidhello guys i have a questions after install 12.04.2 i become kernel 3.5 or need upgrade from 3.2 to 3.5 version of kernel? please help me22:21
Ast001can you help me with this wireless keyboard and mouse ? http://pastebin.ca/231693122:21
Monotoko_d4vid, you see how many people are coming and asking questions? It's verry very difficult to keep up with everyone22:21
_d4vidMonotoko, iam sorry22:21
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Eino_SolarisBoy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5559915/22:21
bencevansportlane.se.quakenet.org22:21
neirpycMonotoko, if I install the nvidia-current-updates and reboot, my screen turns off after grub.22:22
blackrosebladeI'm pretty familiar with IRC and netiquette, but still i gotta ask. How is a person supposed to keep track of their question in here?22:22
Monotoko_d4vid, generally you leave the kernel alone... what are you trying to do?22:22
blackrosebladeif I've not been answered in 10 minutes can I assume that I need to repeat my question?22:22
blackrosebladeespecially since we have such a huge amount of users in here.22:22
Monotokoblackroseblade, didn't I answer your question?22:22
SolarisBoyEino_: try this 'sudo mv /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/multiarch /tmp && dpkg --print-foreign-architectures'22:22
blackrosebladeMonotoko: I'm sorry, I meant my original query.22:23
blackrosebladeAbout making a liveusb persistent.22:23
neirpycMonotoko, I've tried uninstalling nvidia from the login terminal if I pass "text" then installing the linux-headers then reinstalling but I get the same thing with the screen turning off.22:23
Eino_mv: tiedoston ”/etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/multiarch” tilaa ei voi lukea: Tiedostoa tai hakemistoa ei ole22:23
_d4vidMonotoko, my questions was .. i will to install 12.04.2 but i dont know what for version kernel i become after install 3.2 or 3.5?22:23
Eino_cant read because no directory22:23
k1l_d4vid: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2076905&page=222:23
SolarisBoy=022:23
Monotokoblackroseblade, I answered that one too... have a look at unetbootin22:23
SolarisBoyEino_: ls -l /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/22:23
Monotokoit'll allow to create a USB drive with persistent storage22:23
Eino_at total 022:24
_d4vidk1l, thank you .. also 3.5?22:24
k1l_d4vid: with .2 you will have the new kernel stack. when upgrading from .1 you neeed to add a package to get new kernel22:24
_d4vidk1l, no i will new install not upgrade22:24
blackrosebladeYeah but can't I change my current one to persistence? I'll google up unetbootin22:25
Eino_SolarisBoy: It says translated: "at total 0"22:25
Monotokoblackroseblade, I don't think so22:25
blackrosebladeWhat about this: http://shallowsky.com/blog/linux/install/ubuntu-persistent-live-cd.html22:25
blackrosebladeI tried that, except the target was invalid(not found)22:25
SolarisBoynot sure then22:25
_d4vidk1l, danke dir mehrmals..22:26
Eino_oh god i hate this channel.. and canoncial.. one people say "do it" other say "don't do it"22:26
SolarisBoyall thats going to do apparently is make you not have to type --force-architecture when you install things (if you had to when you instsalled it) anyway22:26
blackrosebladeEino_: Welcome to irc :p22:26
SolarisBoylol22:27
MonotokoEino_, we're a community... with lots of different opinions on different things22:27
blackroseblade^22:27
Eino_ok22:27
Eino_but now please teach e22:27
Eino_how to install steam22:27
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MonotokoEino_, no idea... haven't tried it yet I'm afraid22:27
k1lEino_: last time: stop that ranting and flaming22:27
Eino_the .deb file provided in steam wiki does not wor22:27
Eino_k22:27
k1lEino_: install it through softwarecenter?22:27
blackrosebladesensei, share the lore of your people~!22:27
Eino_Kll: it does not found it22:28
blackrosebladekll that wouldn't work22:28
Eino_how to add the reporsietioytidkldfjl22:28
OerHeksEino_, good start > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve22:28
SolarisBoywhammy22:28
blackrosebladethat and steam's own forums Eino_22:28
bd___Eino_: steam should appear in the USC. What version are you at?22:28
Monotokoblackroseblade, what's wrong with redoing the drive... if it's not persistent anyway?22:28
SolarisBoyoh no - thats doing something crazy - whaaaat.... documentation... heh22:28
Eino_12.10 64Bit AMD6422:28
blackrosebladeI ah. Trying to set it persistent using installers doesn't exactly seem to work. :|22:28
k1lEino_: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/12/steam-for-linux-now-available-for-all-to-download22:29
Monotokoblackroseblade, that's why I suggested unetbootin :P22:29
blackrosebladeI'll get another usb and try to do it from within ubuntu22:29
* blackroseblade fetches another USB22:29
ShizuoSteam != Steam22:29
MonotokoShizuo, o.o ?22:29
ShizuoYes22:29
SolarisBoyomg that is really confusing Shizuo22:29
ShizuoI agree22:29
ShizuoI can't handle it22:29
Eino_I have installed it from the official site22:29
Eino_IT DOES NOT WORK22:29
Monotokothe programmer in me wants to kill you right now Shizuo22:30
Monotoko:P22:30
ShizuoThe programmer in me just reads false22:30
MonotokoEino_, then why aren't you asking the Steam support?22:30
Shizuo=]22:30
blackrosebladeMonotoko: you're a programmer?22:30
blackrosebladea dev for ubuntu then? :o22:30
Eino_Monotoko: they said go here22:30
Eino_it is ubuntu related problem22:30
SolarisBoyShizuo: mines returns false22:30
Monotokoblackroseblade, not for Ubuntu nah... I work on a little project for a boss in my home time22:30
blackrosebladeoh.22:30
Monotoko*town22:30
ShizuoSolarisBoy: Old mines maybe22:30
SolarisBoytrue22:30
ShizuoSolarisBoy: New mines might return true and explode22:30
Monotokoand I'm a computer science student... so I have to deal with C# a lot22:30
Eino_I </3 Canoncial.22:31
ShizuoI <3 Boobs22:31
MonotokoEino_, we are not canonical22:31
SolarisBoytrue != "true"22:31
Eino_I </3 #Ubuntu22:31
k1lEino_: please ask in #ubuntu-steam22:31
madsailorHello all.  I cant min/close a window that is maxed from the titlebar in 12.04 after last update. Controls are replaced with window title on mouseover.  Any help?22:31
ShizuoIdling22:31
bencevansmadsailor hold down alt, click on the window (anywhere) and drag it down22:32
OerHeksmadsailor try F1122:32
ShizuoRule nazi22:32
blackrosebladeugh, I should just install ubuntu and be done with it...22:32
Wolfgang__Im installing lubuntu into virtual box and im wondering if i Erase disk and install lubuntu will it affect my nowmal hdd?22:32
jon_wI'm trying to run "sudo -u gitlab -H bundle install --deployment --without development test mysql" but keep getting "sudo: bundle: command not found" because bundle isn't installed for root. How can I run this command then?22:33
blackrosebladeNo Wolfgang__ , it shouldn't22:33
blackrosebladeAs long as the disc you erase it VM's22:33
blackroseblade*is vm's22:33
Wolfgang__blacktoseblad, so im good to go?22:33
Eino_**** YOU CANONCIAL22:33
madsailorbencevans,  OerHeks , I can  resize by double clicking the title bar, but the behaviour of it disappearing is what I need to change22:33
Eino_I hate this operating system22:33
Eino_it does NOT work22:33
Eino_support suck22:33
MonotokoEino_, then go back to Windows22:34
Eino_i am glad that i didn't even donate a buck22:34
madsailorall was fine till the last unity update22:34
Fahjon_w: isn't installed for rot? what's that mean? Use the full path to the command?22:34
meyerHey22:34
leptonegot 12.04 on macbook pro. after enablin cube system freezes when i switch workspaces using Ctrl+alt+arrow. any advice?22:34
jon_wFah: i mean that if I log as root and try to use "bundle" command it does not exist22:34
Eino_Think22:34
Eino_this channel has full of ANGRY PEOPLE22:34
Eino_who has problems with Ubuntu22:34
jon_wFah: only exists for other users22:35
meyerIs there any solution to remap memory without the option on my bios? Please22:35
Fahjon_w: where's it installed? Is that directory in root's path?22:35
k1lEino_: i told you to stop your ranting and flaming.22:35
k1lEino_: stick to the support issues or leave22:35
jon_wFah: no, under "~/.rvm/"22:35
MonotokoI'm surprised he actually left22:36
jon_wFah: user home dir22:36
Fahjon_w: then add it to your path. But why do you even need to run that as root?22:36
meyerPlease , somebody could help me with a memory problem?22:37
smcguinnessI just finished setting up 12.04.1 LTS, but I am running into a monitor issue as seen in this post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197385622:37
malfunchello everyone22:37
jon_wFah: because if not I get "Permission denied - /home/gitlab/gitlab/.bundle (Errno::EACCES)"22:37
smcguinnessI'm unable to resolve the issue as they have, because I cannot access /etc/default/grub22:38
blackrosebladeEino ragequit then i assume22:38
blackrosebladesince i hid my joins and parts22:38
Fahjon_w: i dont know what you're doing but if you add it to PATH, you can run it. If you're writing to a shared filesystem make sure you don't break permissions for users22:38
smcguinnesshas anyone run into the timing issue with a monitor on a new install and resolved it?22:39
jon_wFah: I'm afraid to break user permissions22:39
smcguinnessCan the fix be through using the Live CD ash CL22:39
blackrosebladeHow do I install a tar.bz package?22:40
blackrosebladeI'm trying to install realtek's v5.xxxx drivers for ALC88722:40
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Meyer2436Hi22:40
blackrosebladeMeyer2436:  that you?22:40
Meyer2436Yes xD22:41
blackrosebladexD22:41
blackrosebladesup mate22:41
blackrosebladehere to help or have help?22:41
Meyer2436you mean is it the same like when i asked for the GC driver?22:41
Meyer2436Good thx , and you sup?22:41
blackrosebladestill messing about with ubuntu22:41
blackrosebladeneed to learn a few things22:42
Meyer2436i'm here one more time to have help :p22:42
Meyer2436if i can help you , try to tell me22:42
Meyer2436So22:42
Meyer2436somebody here could help me please?22:43
* blackroseblade shrugs22:43
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Tex_Nick12.10 ... does the hosts file support wildcards ... such as , *partialName*.com22:44
Meyer2436....22:45
otakTex_Nick: why?22:45
madsailor I cant min/close a window that is maxed from the titlebar in 12.04 after last update. Controls are replaced with window title on mouseover.  Any help? Pic here: http://imgur.com/iU3ffIo .  The three controls top left by mouse.22:46
Tex_Nickotak : in order to block any url that contains "partialName"22:47
otakah you mean /etc/hosts.deny22:47
Tex_Nickotak : yes ... sorry i should have elaborated ;022:48
k1lMeyer2436: what was the issue again?22:48
Meyer2436xD22:48
Meyer2436My issue is a global issue22:48
Meyer2436i mean22:48
Meyer2436i've a problem with my installed RAM22:49
Meyer2436my MB is able to do dual channel ( and there is only 2 slots so no difficulty ) but my pc only recognize 3.1 gb ram ( both on win7 and ubuntu x64 )22:50
Meyer2436PS : my BIOS detect 4gb ram at the start22:50
k1lMeyer2436: well, does the vga take some ram?22:50
rickbmy system was unrecoverable. no data on it so i wiped it. i'm going to give that howto a shot once it's loaded back up.22:50
Meyer2436I think22:50
Meyer2436but there is also a remap memory problem i think22:50
ghotiAnybody have a favourite _simple_ OCR program?  I'm hoping for something that'll let me simply `ocrbuddy somefile.png > output.txt`, with line breaks where there are line breaks, no need for multi-column, etc.22:51
otakyes I believe so, all this is well covered in old debian howtos22:51
otaknormally an i.p/netmask would be banned by eg. denyhosts22:52
packetfrogMy dpkg/selinux/vmlinuz is trowing errors when installing unetbootin and others  tried purge  -f install    installl     http://pastebin.com/xaZie6yX   any ideas?22:52
packetfrogthrowing*22:52
Tex_Nickotak : good enough ... i'll read up on it ... thanks for the input :)22:53
Meyer2436k1l , are you still here xD?22:55
k1lyep22:55
Meyer2436have you any idea about this22:55
packetfrog:(22:55
packetfrogsquid!22:55
packetfroghaha like that22:55
k1li dont know about remapping ram. but if your mainboard vga takes 0.9GB ram you have to set that in the bios, if possible22:55
Meyer2436because my bios hasn't this option ( remap memory ) and no update available for it22:56
Meyer2436right but i see no option about this22:56
Meyer2436( btw thanks to help me another time )22:56
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root1_hille22:58
DZENDis there anybody here using gadmei utv380 on ubuntu?22:59
k1lMeyer2436: that is hardware related. see the bios. if that is not possible in there i dont know22:59
Meyer2436ok but22:59
blackrosebladeHey kll, I've got a ssh tunnel running through terminal22:59
blackrosebladeHow do I redirect all my traffic through it?23:00
blackrosebladeterminal commands only please23:00
Meyer2436for the dual channel , why is it not even if the two ram are identical23:00
GlagnarHi im running a program which i want to use 100% of my cpu however its only using approx 8% how can i make it use 100%?23:01
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blackrosebladeGlagnar: Shouldn't it automatically run at 100% if the load on it is that high?23:02
atc3030does anyone here run ubuntu on a macbook air?23:03
Glagnari thought it would but its only using like 8% of my cpu23:03
ldiamondOi23:04
ldiamond"System program problem detected" "Do you want to report the problem now?"23:04
ldiamondHow do I know what the hell the problem is?23:04
ldiamondI just get this popup that asks for my PW23:04
ldiamondI'm not giving my PW to this unknown thing23:04
Glagnari mean its quite computationally intensive but its not using 100% of my cpu which i dont understand23:05
bekksGlagnar: Then you have to investigate the source code, and possibly rewrite it for using 100% of your CPU.23:06
k1lldiamond: press: more information (or similar to this)23:06
k1lldiamond: its apport bug service which collects the information23:06
amigamiai have a tablet here and i was wondeirng if the ubuntu tablet version is beta available? i saw the guy from south africa talking about it. is there anything availbe now for testing for our tablets?23:06
xangua!tablet | amigamia23:07
ubottuamigamia: The Ubuntu tablet can be discussed in #ubuntu-tablet or #ubuntu-discuss, please remember that #ubuntu is for support only.23:07
k1lamigamia: better ask in #ubuntu-tablet and #ubuntu-phone23:07
WBFI need help. I just updated, on 12.10. there is no button to log into a different section like 12.0423:08
blackrosebladeanyone here uses Realtek ALC>23:08
blackrosebladeboy, this is the busiest IRC I've seen yet, and I thought #news@rizon was bad23:09
Glagnarbekks: i wrote it myself in C (ill be honest im kinda a newbie) i expected it to use 100% as its been going for half an hour and i expect it to take an another hour but its only using 8%?23:09
k1lWBF: did you look on the very right side in the panel ?23:09
WBFk1l, yes23:09
k1lWBF: what do you need there?23:10
atc3030does anyone use ubuntu on a macbook air? i needd to know how to configure the touchpad so its not so overly sensitive23:10
ThreepwoodGlagnar: just use java and it will eat ya CPU (sorry for kiddin) :D23:10
nu2ub_Hello everyone23:11
WBFk1l, just let me tell you this, I need to switch to the DE ratpoison or as I like to call it ratp0is0n23:11
nu2ub_I am new to ubuntu had 12.10 installed but due to a display glitch decided to move to 12.04LTS. In the process found Edubuntu 12.04.Since I have kids i decided to install this. The boot cd worked fine and was connected to Internet during install... Now it does not pick any of the wireless23:11
nu2ub_networks23:11
dfgdfgdgWhat is the cheapest device that can read pdf's ?23:11
k1lWBF: so just choose the session in lightdm?23:11
WBFk1l,  how?23:11
nu2ub_did this install about half an hour ago. It did not connect to the internet when i started the new installation23:12
Glagnarlol threepwood im numerically modelling a physical system I don’t understand why it isnt using 100% of one of my cpus23:12
nu2ub_the option for wireless Networks in the top  right button is shaded (can't click on it)23:12
k1lWBF: log out?23:12
KromiXnu2ub_ do ifconfig -a23:12
KromiXand paste it to pastebin23:12
WBFk1l, there is no button there.23:12
KromiXshow us23:12
nu2ub_ok23:12
k1lWBF: sure it is23:12
WBFk1l, will try once more23:12
ThreepwoodGlagnar: locks? waiting for some io? dunno :)23:13
ThreepwoodGlagnar: there are plenty of reasons23:13
atc3030answer my question. does anyone use ubuntu on a macbook air? I understand this is a busy channel. but every time I join i never get help. just saying. not upset. just need some help:)23:13
blackrosebladeatc3030: tell me about it...23:13
atc3030I have installed Ubuntu numerous times on my mid 2011 macbook air and the touchpad is always outta wack. it is too sensitive. the onetime so bad it would pick up my palm that was sitting about 3 inches off the pad23:14
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blackrosebladeGuys can someone help? I've got audio not sounding right. The chipset is supposed to boost the sound through the builtin op-amp, except the application to control it is windows only. How can I get similar functionality in ubuntu?23:14
k1l!ask | atc303023:14
ubottuatc3030: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience23:14
atc3030it also would pick up my finger hovering about 1/2 inch vertically above the pad23:15
blackrosebladeatc3030: I assume you've already tried Mouse and Touchpad in settings?23:15
blackrosebladeLOL23:15
blackrosebladeelectromagnetic fingers23:15
atc3030yep. I've also tried different drivers such as touch egg, semantics and x11 stuff23:15
GlagnarThreepwood i wish that was the answer but im solving the random walk problem so im not reading any data i just wish it was using all my cpu resources23:15
WBFk1l, not working there is no button there23:15
PlizzoI have a RAID5 array which used to consist of three 2TB drives. Last week I added another drive and after that I grew the array to include four devices. Although, I forgot to modify the filesystem size. I will attempt to do this overnight, but I'm wondering if this command is correct: "mdadm --grow /dev/md0 --size=max"23:15
PhysicistLater I had deleted one fgrlx file of my system my pc is a little slow.. I really do not know what is the file, but, it happened. Should I reinstall my driver now!23:16
k1lWBF: which desktop are you running now?23:16
bekksPlizzo: That willnot change the filesystem size at all.23:16
jkobypatc3030: check your usb ports, sounds like somebody plugged in a wireless mouse just to mess with you23:16
WBFk1l,  regular ubuntu23:16
k1lWBF: which is unity?23:16
Physicist*fglrx* I always do that... fgrlx.23:16
WBFk1l,  yes23:16
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Plizzobekks: Why not? I currently have 6TB in my array, but the partition is only 4TB. How can I fix that?23:17
bekksPlizzo: That will change the size of the md0 device, but not of the filesystem you created on md0.23:17
bekksPlizzo: Dont mix up device size, partition size, filesystem size.23:17
PhysicistI am now using the new 13.02 beta driver of AMD. A good choice by the way.23:17
SolarisBoyresize2fs to the rescue23:17
Plizzobekks: Oh, alright, then how do I go about increasing the filesystem to expand to the full device size?23:17
nu2ub_http://pastebin.com/VPL2tDUB23:17
mdhPlizzo: you can use gparted if you want, that'll do that23:18
bekksPlizzo: Depends on the filesystem type.23:18
k1lWBF: so you cant find the logout menu entry in the session indicator?23:18
PhysicistOn Kubuntu... Other good choice.. KDE is the best of all.23:18
nu2ub_<KromiX> it is in the pastebin23:18
WBFk1l, I can but when I try to login with that DE it doesn't work because there.is.no.button.there.23:19
packetfrogMy dpkg/selinux/vmlinuz is trowing errors when installing unetbootin and others  tried purge  -f install    installl     http://pastebin.com/xaZie6yX   any ideas?23:19
Plizzobekks: All the drives as far as I know are ext4, fdisk -l shows this System:23:19
k1lWBF: ahh ok. so there is no ratpoison entry in lightdm?23:19
Plizzobekks: Linux raid autodetect23:19
fcuk112my ubuntu is throwing errors upon updating - http://pastebin.com/rSDSPxaW23:19
PhysicistAnyone??23:19
fcuk112any ideas?23:19
WBFk1l,  yes there is none23:19
bekksPlizzo: Thats not a filesystem, but a partition type.23:19
PhysicistLater I had deleted one fglrx file of my system, it is a little slow.. I really do not know what is the file, but, it happened. Should I reinstall my driver now!23:20
Physicist?? was a question!23:20
atc3030i am normally more professional than this but this is just freaking ridiculous. this channel obviously cannot handle the demand. It sucks you have to have a bot to auto reply when someone has to point that out. sorry and no disrespect meant. but just kinda lets me down. good day.23:20
popescu93#fedora-devel23:20
Glagnarhow do i make a program have absolute priority other others?23:20
Physicist!fglrx | Physicist23:21
ubottuPhysicist, please see my private message23:21
bekksGlagnar: Just use "nice" and "renice".23:21
Glagnarbekks can you give an example?23:21
Plizzobekks: Also, I learned that when adding a disk to a mdadm array, the disk would be formatted automatically. I added a disk (/dev/sde) which had an GPT System on it and two partitions. It is now part of my RAID but still has a GUID table. What do I do?23:21
k1lWBF: see if this works: http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=2059123:22
bekksPlizzo: First, you have to tell us which filesystem type you are using.23:22
nu2ub_'KromiX' you here23:22
Deskaranowould ubuntu still work if i converted the hard drive that its on into a dynamic disk?23:22
Plizzobekks: How do I check?23:22
bekksPlizzo: By looking at the output of "mount" or "sudo blkid"23:23
nu2ub_anyone able to help me with wireless23:24
Plizzobekks: I used df -T23:24
Plizzobekks: /dev/md0               ext423:24
mdhnu2ub_: what's the problem with the wireless?23:24
k1l!ask | nu2ub_23:24
ubottunu2ub_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience23:24
bekksPlizzo: Then you can just use resize2fs  after growing md0.23:24
Deskaranowould ubuntu still work if i converted the hard drive that its on into a dynamic disk?23:24
FahSo, anyone using rEFIt to boot ubuntu on a mac? I need to recover my install23:24
bekksPlizzo: that will then grow the ext4 filesystem on md0.23:25
Plizzobekks: It says 3845715976 1K-blocks, 3599869600 used and 50495184 available. That should mean it could be expanded for quite a bit of more space?23:25
nu2ub_did a fresh install but after reboot the system is not picking up any wireless addreses23:25
bekksPlizzo: I have no clue "what" says that, and which command you are running. Nor is that the complete output of a command.23:25
nu2ub_mdh23:26
mdhnu2ub_: what kind of wireless adapter do you have? or which model of laptop?23:26
nu2ub_k1l23:26
Plizzobekks: So I just run "resize2fs /dev/md0" and it should all be ok?23:26
nu2ub_I have a gateway NV 5823:26
WBFgonna try it now k1l23:26
nu2ub_the wireless worked when i was using ubuntu 12.10 and while I had the new installation DVD23:27
nu2ub_running23:27
bekksPlizzo: No. You should carefully read the options and the usage of resize2fs: "man resize2fs"23:27
amigamia!tablet23:27
ubottuThe Ubuntu tablet can be discussed in #ubuntu-tablet or #ubuntu-discuss, please remember that #ubuntu is for support only.23:27
amigamiathanks23:27
nu2ub_so during install it was working but now the wireless options are shaded and it is not picking any of the channels23:27
Deskaranowould ubuntu still work if i converted the hard drive that its on into a dynamic disk?23:27
Glagnarcheers bekks that’s increased the speed although not to 100%23:28
nu2ub_how do i make my name turn red when i am addressing a specific person23:29
ntzrmtthihu777hello all23:29
luckybunnyguys my computer's doing it again. This time I know very well that I had (or rather have) over 90GB of free space. But the command 'df -h' gives me a full disk, as well as repeated warnings23:29
ntzrmtthihu777nu2ub_: type their name and it usually does23:29
Plizzobekks: I've read the man page, and there are not many options for the kind of operation I'm performing...23:29
nu2ub_ntzrmtthihu777 thanks23:30
Glagnarcan someone give me a resource to using the cpu to 100% please23:30
bekksPlizzo: Those few options my render your filesystem in chaos.23:30
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mussaمرحبا23:30
nu2ub_ntzrmtthihu777 did it work23:30
luckybunnyrebooting doesn't help (it did when my disk was checked for errors, but that was after over 20 cycles, so it won't happen again any time soon)23:30
mdhnu2ub_: i'm still looking for what kind of card it is23:30
Plizzobekks: So what do you suggest, I've read everything and can't find any option that will help me. Could you help me assembe a command then?23:30
ntzrmtthihu777yup, you're yello to me nu2ub_23:31
nu2ub_how can i check it here23:31
ntzrmtthihu777!arabic | mussa23:31
ubottumussa: For Arabic language support, please : /join #ubuntu-arabic : للحصول على الدعم باللغة العربية23:31
nu2ub_mdh  can I do it in the terminal23:31
Glagnaror setting the priortry of a process23:31
Fahluckybunny: you've given no specific information about what is wrong.23:31
nu2ub_any command that will show the hardware type23:31
bekksPlizzo: You should just understand what those options do and you have to decide wether you want them or better not use them.23:31
ntzrmtthihu777yeah, is it pci or usb?23:31
bekksPlizzo: Most likely, you do NOT want to disable safety checks, e.g.23:31
luckybunnyFah: my disk is reading as full, when I know it has over 90GB of free space23:31
nu2ub_mdh the hardware was working with ubuntu 12.10 and while I was using the installation CD.23:32
Fahluckybunny: that seems improbable. Are you getting errors? Have you looked at what df shows for disk usage?23:32
Guest17476when installing wine i get the error message package dependencies cannot be resolved is it possible for my system to use wine ? or do i need  to go back to windows?23:33
luckybunnydf -h shows the disk 100% used23:33
nu2ub_mdh the installation cd for this Install (edubun 12.04 lts)23:33
mdhnu2ub_: is the wireless connection showing up in the connection manager, just no access points showing up?23:33
Fahluckybunny: well it's probably full. Have you seen what the biggest directories are?23:33
luckybunnyI have not downloaded anything (especially not anything 90GB in size) in the past day, but I had 90GB free this morning23:34
Fahluckybunny: so? is something spewing log messages? Is something writing stuff to the filesystem? the only way to find it is to look23:34
luckybunnyok... how do I do that?23:35
nu2ub_mdh yes a blank wireless adapter is showing but no networks and the wireless connections button used to search for connections can't be clicked as it is shaded23:35
mdhnu2ub_: i really don't know what could be causing that, sorry23:35
Fahluckybunny: start with du  on the full file system? do -k /mount/point | sort -nr | head -n 20 to see the top 20 largest dirs? Then drill down from there23:36
Plizzobekks: I've been through multiple tutorials and neither of them use any kinds of options for the command. Look at this for example... http://www.allmyit.com.au/mdadm-growing-raid5-array-ubuntu23:36
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ntzrmtthihu777nu2ub_: lspci should list your wireless card23:36
nu2ub_mdh thanks for trying23:36
Glagnarim really sorry for spamming but ive set nice to -19 but my programme is still only using 9-15% of my cpu what can i do to make it use 100%?23:37
nu2ub_ntzrmtthihu777 will try that23:37
bekksPlizzo: You should understand what those options do and why you dont want them, instead of comparing zillions off howtos.23:37
notStewpidHas anyone here created a wifi hotspot b4?23:37
Plizzobekks: I understand what the options do.. but clearly I don't need them since not a single person that used them used the options..23:38
bekksPlizzo: People often do use them when needed.23:38
nu2ub_ntzrmtthihu777 i dont see any problems there23:39
Plizzobekks: Can I ask you something? When I used sudo mdadm --examine /dev/sdd I get this response:23:39
bekksPlizzo: But as long as you really do know why you dont want to use them, you are safe.23:39
Plizzobekks: MBR Magic : aa5523:39
PlizzoPartition[0] :   3907027120 sectors at         2048 (type fd)23:39
FahGlagnar: if you want load, while true; do true; done23:39
Plizzobekks: But then when I examine my latest addition to the array, /dev/sde I get this:23:39
notStewpidwifi hotspots anyone?23:39
FahGlagnar: run a bunch of threads23:40
bekksPlizzo: Use a pastebin service please.23:40
Plizzobekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5560109/23:40
Plizzobekks: And this is /dev/sdd: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5560110/23:40
bekksPlizzo: And...?23:40
PlizzoThe response is much different, and they're all active disks in the RAID?23:41
bekksPlizzo: You have to check wether they are members of the RAID. I cant guess it.23:41
PhysicistI'd tryed crack my own wireless with backtrack but could not because a broadcom driver of my system.. I did not know. now I know that. I will try again with no index error.23:41
Plizzobekks: They are members of the raid23:41
ntzrmtthihu777nu2ub_: if you can find out what kind of wireless card you have you can be more specific in your searches for help, is it a broadcom sta?23:41
bekksPlizzo: So your question is answered, isnt it? :)23:41
Plizzobekks: No, why does the response differ?23:42
Plizzobekks: I mean, shouldn't it all be the same?23:42
GlagnarFah: this is my code it should be at 100% but it isn't ?: http://pastebin.com/LepV5ihf23:42
PhysicistBacktrack use KDE environment too.. I lake that. But I do not know what is the environment of Slackware that I am downloading.23:42
Plizzobekks: Or maybe /dev/sde has become a main disk of some sort? It says the array is linear so I guess it has to have a starting unit23:42
bekksPlizzo: Not necessarily, the output heavily depends on your hardware setup.23:42
Physicist**like**23:43
notStewpidhotspot help?23:43
Plizzobekks: Alright, well thanks. I'm sorry for bombarding you with questions. I'm decent with Linux but I'm just terrified that any misstake will completely wipe my array :/23:43
bekksnotStewpid: Did you already ask a specific question?23:43
notStewpidummmmm, nooooo...23:44
bekksPlizzo: Which is not tragically, since you have a backup, dont you.23:44
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bekksnotStewpid: Then do it now...23:44
notStewpidHas anyone here used wifi hotspots in ubuntu?23:44
Plizzobekks: I have backups of all the files that are important, but not a full scale backup since it's 4TB of data which mostly consists of movies and tv shows23:44
bekks!anyone | notStewpid23:44
ubottunotStewpid: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.23:44
noanmyth!details23:45
ubottuPlease give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."23:45
noanmyth!gq23:45
ubottuAre you sure your question allows us to help you? Please read http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html to understand how to ask a 'better' question.23:45
noanmyth!poll23:45
ubottuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.23:45
notStewpidI have a problem with wifi hotspots. I am running Ubunut 12.04 LTS, When I try to create a wifi hotspot, it creates it, but without security briefly, and no interrnet access ata ll, when I expect it to work.23:46
noanmyth!help23:47
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience23:47
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noanmyth!patience23:47
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/23:47
bekksnoanmyth: Stop it please.23:47
packetfrogMy dpkg/selinux/vmlinuz is trowing errors when installing unetbootin and others  tried purge  -f install    installl     http://pastebin.com/xaZie6yX   any ideas?23:47
ntzrmtthihu777why use unetbootin, packetfrog ?23:48
bekkspacketfrog: Why do you want to reinstall dpkg?23:48
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packetfrogunetbootin is not the issue really its just when i am installing things apt-get is having issues fixing dpkg/extlinux/vmlinuz23:50
packetfrogIt keeps throwing up the same kind of errors for anything I apt-get23:50
bekkspacketfrog: Why are you trying to reinstall dpkg?23:50
bekksThe error message is pretty clear: you dont have a kernel package installed.23:50
packetfrogI was trying to reinstall all three above mentioned things  as they keep popping up with missing files23:50
packetfrogor errors23:50
packetfrog!23:51
ntzrmtthihu777ah, I see. bekks: he just answered, he is having hell using apt-get.23:51
nu2ub_ntzrmtthihu777 let me check23:51
bekksntzrmtthihu777: HE is just missing an installed kernel package.23:51
packetfrogI did not understand the underlying issue so tried to shoot a shotgun at it...23:51
packetfrogthe birdshot keeps coming back and hitting me in the face ;)23:52
ntzrmtthihu777Just tell him that, don't ask him why, he explained his reason, even if it is faulty.23:52
packetfrogSo how do I fix it and why is it like this?23:52
bekkspacketfrog: Whats the output of sudo apt-get install linux-image =23:52
bekkspacketfrog: Without that =23:53
packetfrogonesec23:53
packetfrogwait23:53
packetfrogI am on ubuntu studio  I dont want that kernel stuff right?23:53
bekkspacketfrog: You NEED at least ONE kernel package installed.23:53
nu2ub_ntzrmtthihu777 ethernet controller is a Broadcom Corp NetLink BCM5784M Gigabit Ethernet PCIe (rev 10)23:54
nu2ub_ntzrmtthihu777 Network contoller is an Intel Corp WiFi Link 510023:54
KRomeleoNis libreoffice still not available?23:55
ntzrmtthihu777and their aint any reason to shout, bekks.23:55
KRomeleoN4.0?23:55
bekksntzrmtthihu777: I didnt shout.23:56
Monotokobekks, typing in caps is considered shouting23:57
bekksMonotoko: I know it. Thing is: I didnt do that.23:57
ntzrmtthihu777nu2ub_: now you can have a search around the net for the info you need, now that you know the specifics. I personally don't have any experience with those particular cards.23:57
ntzrmtthihu777you NEED at least one... HE is just...23:57
luckybunnyI've cleared a little bit more out of my downloads folder, to make space for this screenie.. baobab appears to agree something's not quite right http://i.imgur.com/qX4lA2W.png23:57
Monotokobekks, "<bekks> packetfrog: You NEED at least ONE kernel package installed."23:57
Monotokothat's shouting23:58
packetfrogwhats the command to reinstall the lowlatency kernel?23:58
packetfroggooglefu has failed me23:58
bekksntzrmtthihu777: So you are sticking at two words now...? Lets go on with support.23:58
mneptokbekks: avoid typing words or sentences in caps, please. thanks.23:58
zypsyI thought that was emphasizing.  ?23:58
luckybunny*this* is emphasis23:58
ntzrmtthihu777not just me, bekks.23:58
luckybunnyor this if you know how23:58
packetfrog:*(23:59
mneptoklet's let the subject drop, folks.23:59
nu2ub_ntzrmtthihu777 thanks23:59

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