[00:00] <InAndOutLand> ^without 3
[00:00] <k1l> InAndOutLand: so you are sure the the .iso you did download is ok?
[00:00] <InAndOutLand> Yes.
[00:01] <InAndOutLand_1> xchat kinda broke there
[00:02] <InAndOutLand_1> (xchat 2
[00:02] <k1l> InAndOutLand_1: you need to test this usb on another pc or laptop to make sure that usb isnt the problem
[00:02] <k1l> so we can focus on that pc (if that is the problem)
[00:02] <InAndOutLand_1> I don't really have any other pcs to test on...
[00:03] <kyza14> yolo
[00:04] <InAndOutLand_1> What do I do in this case?
[00:05] <InAndOutLand_1> Any body?
[00:06] <wiggmpk> InAndOutLand_1: you could re-download the image, re-create the bootable USB... OR you can burn the image to a CD/DVD and boot it that way
[00:06] <kkathman> Greetings I have an issue that after a recent update, my computer name is no longer accessible via other computers, however I can connect via the computer's IP address...is this a DNS issue? If so how do I fix that?
[00:07] <wiggmpk> kkathman: are all your computers local? connected to a router that supports DNS?
[00:07] <kkathman> wiggmpk:  Yes all connected to the same router in fact, and wired (not wireless)
[00:08] <wiggmpk> kkathman: does the router have built-in DNS?
[00:08] <kkathman> wiggmpk:  That I am not sure of
[00:08] <wiggmpk> kkathman: did your local IP address change since the update?
[00:09] <kkathman> wiggmpk:  Possibly, yes. I'm on Verizon Fios and we had an outage so its possible that the incoming PPoE IP changed
[00:09] <wiggmpk> kkathman: your "local" ip to the machine your trying to resolve by hostname
[00:10] <InAndOutLand_1> my computer does not habe a dvd drive for 12.10. What do I do?
[00:10] <InAndOutLand_1> ^My
[00:10] <kkathman> wiggmpk:  yes that's correct...local IP is 192.168.1.14
[00:10] <Vivekananda> hey everyone. Am on lubuntu but want to know if my graphics card are working.
[00:11] <Vivekananda> glxinfo and glxgears gimme some outputs but I see "no proprietery drivers installed". How do i proceed to check and sort this issue ?
[00:11] <wiggmpk> kkathman: and your using DHCP?
[00:11] <kkathman> wiggmpk: Yes I am...I have my admin panel up on the router if that helps things
[00:12] <wiggmpk> kkathman: are you trying to resolve the linux machine by hostname from other computers? or are you trying to resolve other computers by hostname FROM the linux machine?
[00:12] <kkathman> wiggmpk:  The router identifies the hostname by the way
[00:13] <kkathman> wiggmpk:  I am trying to connect via smb from my Mac . In the past I have been able to do this with no problems
[00:14] <wiggmpk> kkathman: is your MAC using the router as it's DNS to resolve the hostnames?
[00:15] <kkathman> wiggmpk: I believe it would be yes, since it's connected to the same router
[00:15] <wiggmpk> kkathman: unless you specifically told it to, routers usually pass the ISP's DNS when using DHCP
[00:16] <kkathman> wiggmpk:  I'm sure I didn't tell it to explicitly, yet the Mac seemed to find it ok
[00:17] <wiggmpk> kkathman: well im not a Mac guru, but you can try adding your router as a DNS server on your Mac
[00:17] <kkathman> wiggmpk:  OK I
[00:18] <kkathman> wiggmpk: OK I will try that.
[00:18] <wiggmpk> kkathman: on my network, I have reserved DHCP address's for my NAS, since I dont use a local DNS I had to add them to /etc/hosts (it should be relatively similar on a Mac)
[00:19] <bencc1> how can I use this key http://sysoev.ru/pgp.txt to be able to install from nginx repository?
[00:19] <kkathman> wiggmpk:  So would I use the internal lan address of 192.168.1.1 as the DNS ?
[00:19] <wiggmpk> kkathman: but with DHCP, your IP can change when the lease expires
[00:19] <wiggmpk> kkathman: thats what I would try
[00:19] <wiggmpk> unless someone else has a better idea
[00:19] <kkathman> wiggmpk:  Let me try that
[00:20] <sinewalker> kkathman: wiggmpk: DNS lease can be set to not expire, if you know how to work your router... (what's it's model, I'll help look it up).  btw, joined late, what are you tring to achieve?
[00:21] <wiggmpk> sinewalker: the ability to resolve by hostname and not IP (to access samba shares)
[00:23] <sinewalker> samba on the NAS...? okay.  NAS is on the router/gateway (192.168.1.1) or elsewhere?  What I've seen in this chat is your suggestion to put the IP in /etc/hosts which as you say is fine until the router expire's the NAS' IP lease.  What make/model is the router, we may be able to do something more dynamic... or just set the lease to not expire
[00:23] <wiggmpk> sinewalker: i was referencing my network.. I use DHCP reservation for my NAS
[00:25] <sinewalker> okay yes that'll do.  what is kkathman's setup ? :)  I assume he's trying to connect to his NAS which has some IP 192.168.1.x  (but not .1 as that's the router)?
[00:25] <wiggmpk> sinewalker: kkathman said the router recognizes the hostname of the machine. He has a Mac and is trying to access Samba shares FROM the Mac, to (im assuming) a linux box
[00:25] <sinewalker> oic.  thinking
[00:26] <wiggmpk> sinewalker: i suggested adding the router's IP as a DNS server on his Mac
[00:26] <tgm4883> wiggmpk, does it work via IP?
[00:26] <sinewalker> wiggmpk: yes, if the router has a DNS feature. most do not though :(
[00:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> looking to install precise x64 on my dell inspirone one2205, but the documentation seems to be missing parts.
[00:27] <nankura> hey i was wondering, i know we have wine and steam native to linux now, but has it ever been attempted to get Bootcamp from mac working on linux, essentially mac is similiar to linux, and there bootcamp, is well known for running windows programs
[00:27] <wiggmpk> tgm4883: it's kkathman with the issue, and last I read, kkathman said yes.. but it used to resolve by hostname prior to an update
[00:28] <iter> nankura: wat
[00:28] <wiggmpk> nankura: that is not what bootcamp does
[00:28] <SourceSlayer> Heyo, I'm having a little issue...
[00:28] <sinewalker> kkathman: are you still there?
[00:28] <wiggmpk> nankura: bootcamp allows you to install the Windows OS on an Intel based Mac
[00:28] <tgm4883> wiggmpk, kkathman I'm assuming that FQDN work then as well?
[00:28] <chris062689> Is there an Ubuntu Phone support channel yet?
[00:28] <SourceSlayer> When I type "g++ hello\ world.cpp" I get: hello world.cpp:1:35: fatal error: QtCore/QCoreApplication: No such file or directory
[00:28] <SourceSlayer> Can anyone help me?
[00:28] <nankura> oh ok
[00:29] <nankura> so essentially vmware does the same thing?
[00:29] <wiggmpk> nankura: no
[00:29] <nankura> the only problem ive noticed with vmware/virtualbox is 3D support, gmaing on vmware/virtualbox isnt a viable option it seems
[00:29] <wiggmpk> nankura: bootcamp doesnt virtualize anything..
[00:29] <nankura> ah ok
[00:29] <nankura> i see i see
[00:29] <SourceSlayer> nankura: VMWAre is used to emulate running on Operating System
[00:29] <wiggmpk> nankura: thats because its virtual.. its not direct access to the hardware
[00:29] <SourceSlayer> Bootcamp is used to run an OS along another
[00:29] <nankura> yea
[00:29] <nankura> ah
[00:29] <sinewalker> nankura: Bootcamp is an operating system loader.  if you are thinking to use Bootcamp on a linux machine to dual-boot windows, no need, Linux has GRUB to do the same.
[00:30] <nankura> alright, thanks for the info
[00:30] <wiggmpk> tgm4883: that I do not know.. kkathman would have to answer that
[00:31] <tgm4883> wiggmpk, ok, I've got to go (home time), but it sounds like the computer isn't doing NETBIOS.
[00:32] <wiggmpk> tgm4883: would that be the machine trying to resolve the hostname or the machine with the hostname that its trying to resolve?
[00:32] <sinewalker> nunkura: google  'linux grub windows dual-boot how-to'
[00:32] <sinewalker> whoops
[00:32] <tgm4883> wiggmpk, I have a similar issue with my router when I reboot it
[00:33] <tgm4883> wiggmpk, the machines trying to resolve the name, although I suppose the linux machine would need to register with netbios
[00:34] <tgm4883> wiggmpk, it's been awhile since I've messed with that though . Good luck
[00:34] <wiggmpk> tgm4883: i hear ya.. thanks
[00:37] <kc_> Hello! i just installed 12.04 on my MacBook Pro dual boot with refit. ii tried to boot to ubuntu by clicking the "tux" icon on refit then the screen goes white with tux in th middlke and freeze there. anyone know what i can do?
[00:38] <bencc1> how can I find nginx's pgp key? I found somewhere 7BD9BF62. how can I be sure it's correct?
[00:38] <bombard> Maximum number of clients reachederr:winediag:x11drv_init_thread_data x11drv: Can't open display: :0. Please ensure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly.
[00:38] <seta> hi, ive got a ATI 5770 and ubuntu 13.04, trying to install the driver results in this: http://pastie.org/6319635 any ideas?
[00:38] <bombard> anyone have an idea how to fix this?
[00:38] <bombard> Maximum number of clients reachederr:winediag:x11drv_init_thread_data x11drv: Can't open display: :0. Please ensure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly.
[00:39] <wiggmpk> bombard: have some patience, dont ask your question repeatedly.. if someone knows the answer they will reply.
[00:39] <bombard> sorry about that
[00:39] <sinewalker> kkathman:  assuming you can reach your NAS from the Mac via IP.  Probably best bet is as wiggmpk suggested, or edit your Mac's hosts file.  on Mac, to edit hosts file do following:     1.  Open Terminal     2.   type     sudo nano /private/etc/hosts         3. edit the file to add a line that reads    192.168.1.x   myNAS        (change .x and myNAS to suit)
[00:42] <sinewalker> seta:  ensure kernel dev libraries installed to build modules.... i'll google the package names now, standby
[00:42] <clemens> Hello! After re install my Notebook and update my Bios i can't install Ubuntu anymore. Bios has now a UEFI and Legacy mode. I tried to install 12.04 and 12.10 with DVD and USB-Stick but no success! Here a link from my notebook http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201203-10678/
[00:43] <SourceSlayer> When I type "g++ hello\ world.cpp" I get "hello world.cpp:1:35: fatal error: QtCore/QCoreApplication: No such file or directory"
[00:43] <seta> sinewalker, thx
[00:43] <wiggmpk> clemens: is your BIOS set to UEFI or Legacy mode?
[00:44] <clemens> i tried both but nothing worked
[00:44] <wiggmpk> clemens: are you trying to boot Ubuntu or re-install ubuntu?
[00:45] <sinewalker> seta:  start with     sudo apt-get install kernel-headers    ; this should contain the missing linux version.h
[00:45] <clemens> i try to install it. Just windows 7 64 bit is running know
[00:45] <sinewalker> seta:  this will probably uncover a few more things needed.  ATI fglx driver installer usually compiles the kernel module to suit your kernel, so it'll need all the build tools
[00:46] <seta> build-essential and the kernel-headers are installed already
[00:46] <wiggmpk> clemens: just curious are you trying to install 32bit Ubuntu?
[00:47] <clemens> no the 64 bit version
[00:47] <wiggmpk> clemens: i dont have any experience installing Ubuntu on UEFI/EFI.. but this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI is worth a read
[00:47] <sinewalker> seta: hmm, then it's something else :(  can you paste the full output then?
[00:48] <Newbuntu2> Hello!
[00:49] <Newbuntu2> I'm trying to fix my mouse - a logitech m305 - I would like the side-scroll wheels to go fwd/back in Nautilus and Chrome browser.
[00:49] <clemens> i had installed a dual boot with win7 64 bit and ubuntu 12.04 64 bit with grub bootloader but after updating my BIOS and re install my notebook i had no success with ubuntu. Thx i give it a try ;)
[00:49] <trism> SourceSlayer: libqt4-dev
[00:50] <SourceSlayer> trism: Software center said it was installed.
[00:51] <seta> sinewalker, im afraid there isnt more... may i just downgrade to 12.10
[00:51] <trism> SourceSlayer: you'll probably need the args from: pkg-config --cflags --libs QtCore; as well
[00:52] <SourceSlayer> trism: for g++
[00:52] <SourceSlayer> ?
[00:52] <trism> SourceSlayer: yup, it needs to add the include path
[00:54] <sinewalker> seta:  sorry mate, i'm stumped.  I assume you've read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI  ?   No idea otherwise :(
[00:55] <seta> sinewalker, yes already read trough that, but still thx
[00:56] <mlgisbrguy1> !* SH perl null 1.1.1.1 3074 5000
[00:57] <_JuJuBee> I just upraded to 12.10 and can't get my dhcp server running.
[00:59] <mlgisbrguy1> help  how can i add nix to my irc
[01:07]  * sinewalker is leaving you all for coffee and family lunch
[01:09] <Bray90820> so for some reason after my netbook sleeps the touch screen doesn't work anymore
[01:09] <Bray90820> it's a dell insperon duo
[01:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> never sleep with ubuntu, never turns out right.
[01:10] <Bray90820> lol you know what i mean :p
[01:10] <linxon634> интересно... говорит ли кто-нибудь по русский? =)
[01:11] <linxon634> ok
[01:16] <WBF> I need help with my ubuntu system, when I insert more than 1GB ram (while it's off) the bios freezes at the HP screen
[01:16] <WBF> (aka after I turn it on)
[01:16] <Bray90820> kerl wise is there anything different from 12.04 to 12.10
[01:16] <wiggmpk> WBF: possibly bad RAM.. remove all ram and test it 1 stick at a time
[01:16] <Axelay> Does your system support more than 1GB ram? otherwise its bad RAM
[01:16] <WBF> well when I put the stick in my server it works.
[01:17] <WBF> but on the desktop I'm typing from it doesn't
[01:17] <Axelay> Is the slot clean?
[01:17] <WBF> Yes
[01:17] <Axelay> Hmmm
[01:17] <wiggmpk> WBF: that doesnt mean its not bad RAM, otherwise Axelay suggested checking to see if your board supports the upgrade
[01:18] <WBF> Just researched and 1GB is mobo limit ):
[01:18] <topper4125> some systems require you to enter bios after a ram upgrade
[01:18] <Axelay> Or, your system is not giving it enough Voltage.
[01:19] <Axelay> I had that problem with my other desktop
[01:19] <Axelay> System would boot up, but would restart randomly
[01:19] <WBF> that is possible too... I should try with a bigger psu...
[01:19] <WBF> but with 2 512 sticks works just fine.
[01:19] <WBF> two*
[01:20] <wiggmpk> WBF: if the motherboard limit is 1GB a bigger PSU wont help
[01:20] <WBF> must be mobo limit :P
[01:20] <Axelay> ]True, Check the motherboard limit
[01:20] <WBF> oh well it is 1024MB
[01:21] <WBF> but, I'm getting a high end gaming pc for my birthday :D bulding myself.
[01:21] <packetfrog> Anyone know of PPA's with more good games?
[01:22] <Bray90820> WBF go with AMD
[01:22] <Bray90820> AMD and ATI
[01:22] <topper4125> packetfrog, more good games besides steam?
[01:22] <WBF> (does amd work better on linux?? XD)
[01:22] <wiggmpk> Bray90820: why?
[01:22] <wiggmpk> packetfrog: look up playdeb.net
[01:22] <Bray90820> because nvida is horable with linux
[01:22] <packetfrog> Thank you.
[01:23] <packetfrog> :)
[01:23] <packetfrog> nvidia works fine with my linux
[01:23]  * packetfrog pets his linux
[01:23] <mgolisch> Bray90820: why?
[01:23] <WBF> well once I had an AMD laptop. then I was able to run my favorite game at 5FPS with minimum settings XD
[01:24] <Bray90820> i have had nothing but problems with linux and nvida
[01:24] <mgolisch> actualy their drivers have been better like for ever
[01:24] <wiggmpk> Bray90820: then why suggest AMD processors ?
[01:24] <Bray90820> and so has Linus Torvalds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_36yNWw_07g
[01:24] <wiggmpk> Bray90820: i've not had an issue with Intel iSeries processors nor nvidia cards
[01:24] <mgolisch> but i think its gotten better on the ati side since amd took over
[01:25] <Bray90820> AMD and ATI work really well together
[01:25] <WBF> Bray90820: I made a great install with ubuntu and a NVIDIA, infact I get 50FPS (not lying) (300MB memory on card XD)
[01:25] <Axelay> Its just AMD graphics now :P
[01:25] <Bray90820> AMD and ATI are basically the same company
[01:25] <Axelay> ATI as a brand has gone
[01:25] <wiggmpk> Bray90820: they do now, like mgolisch pointed out, they are the same parent company now
[01:25] <topper4125> here's one reason to avoid intel cpu's: http://techcrunch.com/2012/09/14/new-intel-chip-wont-support-linux/
[01:25] <Bray90820> i had horrible overscan problems that i couldn't fix
[01:26] <Bray90820> with nvida
[01:26] <Bray90820> i had to sell the card and go with ATI
[01:26] <wiggmpk> topper4125: thats not a reason to avoid Intel chipsets.. just that particular chip
[01:26] <Axelay> I'd love to own the GTX titan though
[01:26] <WBF> well, I do not have to avoid intel, I7 :D
[01:27] <Bray90820> i have never had much luck with nvida even on the windows side
[01:27] <Axelay> Intel have wayyy better IPC than what AMD can make.
[01:27]  * Dimensional is a little angry at AMD because they don't really support their legacy graphics cards like they say they are.
[01:27]  * Dimensional isn't able to install their legacy drivers onto his laptop on Ubuntu
[01:28] <topper4125> its a good enough reason for me. If they want to tie themselves down to one OS... then I'll keep it in mind when I shop new hardware.
[01:28] <Axelay> I'd love an AMD 8350 :\
[01:29] <Bray90820> i would never recommend Nvida to anyone
[01:29] <Axelay> Why not?
[01:29] <WBF> well, it's your opinion to choose Nvidia or AMD but I'm sticking with NVIDIA until I have issues and I'm typing from a computer with a NVIDIA.
[01:29] <Bray90820> never had ANY luck with using one
[01:29] <Bray90820> i had BSOD overscan issues and all sorts of different things
[01:30] <wiggmpk> topper4125: its not Intel's job to make an OS support their chip.. they are a business and unfortunately market control in the desktop/mobile area is still dominated by Windows and Apple..
[01:30] <Axelay> Thats unfortunate. If you get a bad expereince with a brand/make it shows on what you buy next.
[01:32] <topper4125> M$ asked intel to make a chip that would work only with Win... least thats the way I heard it on SEVERAL linux podcasts... so While its NOT their job to make a chip work with any particular OS... they did make the decision to agree with one OS to make a chip that won't work with the competition.... They made their choice... i made mine
[01:33]  * WBF runs to intel store and grabs last I7
[01:33] <WBF> Just imagine that D:
[01:33] <wiggmpk> topper4125: sorry to hear that, but thats the way of the world.. im sure if there are enough linux users using that chip, it will be supported.. one way or the other
[01:34] <Dimensional> From what I'm reading, they might support Linux later. It's because of power issues.
[01:35] <Dimensional> Just because they don't support it doesn't mean it won't work.
[01:35] <packetfrog> wiggmpk I followed the instructions on playdeb.net on how to add repo to software center but it is not loading them..
[01:36] <wiggmpk> packetfrog: whats not loading?
[01:36] <Dimensional> I think playdeb uses it's own client?
[01:36] <topper4125> Nothing to be sorry about... AMD is a decent enough processor for my needs (MORE than enough to be honest)... it all boils down to "Buyer Decision"... I'm sure they'll be making "Open" Processors again, and maybe a few generations of processors i'll take a look at them again.
[01:37] <packetfrog> I added the software sources to softwarecenter  then the keys   and im browsing the site and clicking install now   but software center just says whatevergame not found  for anything i try
[01:37] <Axelay> Open processors?
[01:37] <Dimensional> I feel that AMD, with them working closely with Canonical, will start doing that again.
[01:37] <Axelay> Can you explain that to me please?
[01:37] <wiggmpk> packetfrog: did you update? open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get update" then try again
[01:37] <Dimensional> I mean Valva and Canonical.
[01:37] <Dimensional> Err
[01:37] <Dimensional> Valve*
[01:38]  * packetfrog hides his face in shame.
[01:38] <packetfrog> Never used software center  thought it did it. :P
[01:38] <wiggmpk> packetfrog: did it work?
[01:38] <packetfrog> still loading   i have lots of ppas :/
[01:39] <packetfrog> Yes it worked! Thanks for pointing out my sillyness :)
[01:39] <wiggmpk> np
[01:39] <Dimensional> SillyFrog
[01:39] <packetfrog> And for pointing out the wonderful game ppa :)
[01:39] <coldpizza72i> Whats the default username/password for an xubuntu live cd?
[01:39] <wiggmpk> packetfrog: well technically its not a PPA
[01:39] <Dimensional> uh, root?
[01:39] <wiggmpk> packetfrog: just a repository
[01:39] <Dimensional> Or live?
[01:40] <Dimensional> Or User?
[01:40] <Ben64> Dimensional: don't just make stuff up : /
[01:40] <coldpizza72i> Ben64: do you know?
[01:40]  * Dimensional never makes stuff up. He did see an elephant in his pajamas. :P
[01:40] <Ben64> there is no password on live cd
[01:40] <Dimensional> Groucho Marx! :P
[01:41] <coldpizza72i> Ben64: im promted for a username/passowrd. Do i just use root and emptypassword?
[01:41] <Ben64> password for....
[01:41] <coldpizza72i> logging in
[01:42] <Ben64> it logs in automatically...
[01:42] <WBF> you wanna be root on the livecd?
[01:42] <coldpizza72i> Ben64: not for me
[01:43] <WBF> coldpizza72i, are you trying to get root on the livecd or what?
[01:43] <coldpizza72i> WBF: im trying to log into the desktop
[01:44] <WBF> coldpizza72i,  do you already have a user account?
[01:44] <coldpizza72i> nope
[01:44] <Ben64> coldpizza72i: you should check the md5
[01:45] <WBF> coldpizza72i,  so it's a random hdd or is it a cd?
[01:45] <coldpizza72i> cd
[01:45] <mgolisch> why would it ask for a username? it should log you on automaticaly
[01:45] <WBF> coldpizza72i, do you see try ubuntu or is ths older than 12.04?
[01:45] <WBF> this*
[01:47] <coldpizza72i> i think its 9.10 xubuntu
[01:48] <Ben64> i'm sure you know this, but 9.10 is very old
[01:48] <Ben64> get something better
[01:49] <WBF> coldpizza72i, not sure how to continue, try getting a 12.04 cd
[01:49] <larstk> hey
[01:50] <dr_willis> moo
[01:51] <Dimensional> Woof
[01:54] <jm_> baah
[02:00] <coldpizza72i> nope
[02:00] <coldpizza72i> nope
[02:00] <WBF> coldpizza72i, so yo cannot get another livecd?
[02:00] <WBF> coldpizza72i, so you* cannot get another livecd?
[02:01] <Physicist> Good news. Grettings first -- I fixed my problem successfully in my laptop. I did a reinstallation of the driver amd. Did not by a deb package, and yes, running the
[02:01] <coldpizza72i> WBF: ill have to find a usb to do it... that cd was just one i had around
[02:01] <Physicist> **original fime of the AMD Driver 13.1 beta.
[02:01] <Physicist> *file*
[02:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> looking to install precise x64 on my dell inspirone one2205, but the documentation seems to be missing parts. 6/7 parts passed, but cannot check the failure.
[02:01] <coldpizza72i> Has anyone every used clonezilla here?
[02:02] <WBF> coldpizza72i,  try using PLoP bootcd if the computer is old
[02:02] <WBF> coldpizza72i, PLoP is free :P
[02:02] <dr_willis> ntzrmtthihu777: what documentation?
[02:03] <Physicist> coldpizza72i: cool and weird nickname!!! ;-D
[02:04] <coldpizza72i> u dont like coldpizza?
[02:05] <epsilonorion> Is there a way to check if a wifi driver is capable of ad hoc.  I am trying two different devices with no luck
[02:08] <epsilonorion> anyone in here know anything about wifi, drivers, adhoc, etc
[02:09] <Physicist> I have a problem with a torrent download. I am downloading slack, and is more than 2 GB.. Now, in 90% completed, it is stopped, showing that is not in the line.. ?? I do not understand.. Anybody??
[02:09] <escott> Physicist, what is the error message
[02:09] <Physicist> note* I tryed restart the download but does not work.
[02:10] <kc_> hello, i am trying to follow this tutorial to setup my color profile. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro7-1/Maverick#Colors but i cant find the /etc/gdm/Init/Default/ file.
[02:11] <Physicist> escott: Is not an error.. Meantime, is stopped.. "Is not in the line" -- ??
[02:11] <escott> Physicist, "Is not in the line"??? Where are you seeing that
[02:11] <Physicist> escott: How can I post a image in this chat?
[02:12] <Physicist> !image
[02:12] <escott> !paste
[02:12] <dr_willis> kc_:  gdm is not used by default any more. that guide may be sort if outdated
[02:12] <Physicist> nothing ubottu!!
[02:13] <dr_willis> kc_:  if its for the maverick release.. then it is a very old guide
[02:13] <LarrySteeze|Away> I'm so confused. I don't know how, but ubuntu seems to have added animations when switching between windows overnight without an update by me O.o
[02:13] <jrib> LarrySteeze|Away: it's learning and evolving
[02:13] <kc_> dr_willis, ok thx. this guide sent me there: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro6-2/Precise#Sensors_.28temps_.26_fans.29 any idea how i might install the color profile?
[02:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: we meet again.
[02:14] <LarrySteeze|Away> jrib: I see that. And in the process reminding me it's winter by slipping and sliding my windows as I switch them
[02:14] <LarrySteeze|Away> anyone here at SCALE this weekend?
[02:14] <dr_willis> kc_:  old is old.. gdm is not the default anymore.. and gdm3 has replaced the old gdm.. lightdm is the default now.
[02:15] <erickLee> LarrySteeze: Wish i was
[02:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: this documentation http://people.canonical.com/~hwcert/precise-testing/precise_final.html
[02:15] <Physicist> escott: "is out of line" - at: status.
[02:15] <dr_willis> kc_:  if you are trying to run a  command from lightdm  that should be doable
[02:15] <kc_> dr_willis, sry lightdm is the default what?
[02:15] <dr_willis> kc_: lightdm has replaced gdm
[02:16] <dr_willis> !info lightdm
[02:16] <escott> Physicist, please post a screenshot
[02:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> kc_: basically the pretty login screen of 12.04
[02:16] <Physicist> dr_willis:  hey doctor..
[02:16] <LarrySteeze|Away> erickLee: tell me about it. I was supposed to be there but work caused me to miss my flight today
[02:17] <Physicist> escott: how??
[02:17] <kc_> ntzrmtthihu777, ok thx
[02:17] <Ben64> !ot
[02:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> yeah, I used gnome-fallback, but I still kept lightdm because it looks so damn much better than gdm
[02:18] <escott> !paste | Physicist
[02:18] <sonOfRa> is it possible to put something in the clipboard via a console command? I would like to be able to do something like: dropbox-publink path/to/file
[02:18] <kc_> i am just installing 12.04 for the first time this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro6-2/Precise#Sensors_.28temps_.26_fans.29 suggests i use a new color profile. but apperently it is dated does any one know if i still should/need to do this. if so how? thx.
[02:18] <sonOfRa> and then have the link in my clipboard so I can paste it
[02:18] <escott> SonOfGod, install xclip
[02:18] <sonOfRa> that looks promising
[02:19] <sonOfRa> thanks
[02:19] <epsilonorion> is anyone familiar with usb wifi adapters that are fully supported by linux?  I have two but neither work with ad hoc
[02:21] <oldude67> is anyone else having issues with yahoo's home page with google chrome? running lubuntu on 12.10 just updated
[02:23] <dr_willis> oldude67: saw smeone mention it yesterday..
[02:24] <dr_willis> or waa that you?
[02:24] <oldude67> dr_willis, let me get a screen shot of it and ill paste bin it. its like im missing something but dont know what.
[02:25] <oldude67> !pastebin
[02:26] <WBF> I <3 ubuntu for how it even supports my kengsington expert ball mouse :D
[02:27] <Physicist> escott: http://imagebin.org/247810 *note: I press start and nothing happened.
[02:27] <Riberty> how do i turn deadbeef on from terminal?
[02:28] <Riberty> how can i turn deadbeef on from terminal?
[02:29] <Physicist> Riberty: Run the name..
[02:29] <Riberty> it doesnt work
[02:29] <escott> Physicist, i think you are mistranslating this error message you are seeing
[02:29] <Physicist> Riberty: Run the program name - no sudo.
[02:29] <Riberty> deadbeef: command not found
[02:29] <escott> !br | Physicist
[02:29] <Riberty> is it case sensitive?
[02:30] <Physicist> escott:  ohh.. Do you want kick me out?
[02:30] <escott> Physicist, no... i just dont know what you expect me to do with a portugues screenshot :)
[02:30] <jrib> Physicist, escott: where's the error message? (I speak portuguese)
[02:30] <oldude67> dr_willis, http://imagebin.org/247811
[02:31] <Physicist> jrib: http://imagebin.org/247810
[02:32] <Physicist> jrib: I am glad..
[02:32] <jrib> Physicist: what am I looking for?
[02:32] <xangua> oldude67: and what exactly is missing¿ you do realize you are using the mobile version of the site¿
[02:33] <dr_willis> xangua:  dident look likee the mobile version i saw on my phone.
[02:33] <dr_willis> but i just went straight to yahoo,com
[02:33] <oldude67> xangua, no, and how do i change it? just installed chrome and thats how it came out.
[02:33] <Physicist> The download is stopped. When I press "start" show: não está na lista.
[02:33] <WBF> Physicist, try taking your torrent and putting peers to 200 downloads to max and use a bunch of trackers :3
[02:34] <aeu> DSL through pppoeconf works but through Network Manager stops some sites from working in all browsers :(
[02:34] <WBF> Physicist,  torrent not on list?
[02:34] <oldude67> xangua, and its only yahoo. everything else comes up fine.
[02:34] <Physicist> I have to manually turn down the webchat page.. So horrific!
[02:35] <jrib> Physicist: I don't actually use ktorrent but I imagine it's trying to say "not queued" (since it also says that in the lower panel).  You might try starting the app with LANGUAGE=C LANG=C to avoid translation problems
[02:36] <Physicist> Is it a language problem?
[02:37] <jrib> Physicist: it's hindering your support; in that sense it's a problem :)
[02:37] <aeu> DSL through pppoeconf works but through Network Manager stops some sites to load in browsers :(
[02:37] <Physicist> jrib: Is it a language problem? I have to change the language to download files?
[02:37] <jrib> Physicist: no?
[02:38] <Vivekananda> i  deleted my cache partition for 2 gb ram lubuntu 12.04. lold system intel centrino. will that make it slow ?
[02:38] <escott> Physicist, no. the application is only partially translated. as a result you might be misreading something and we can't understand what it says. ie a consistent language of english would help us identify what button in the gui you need to click
[02:38] <Physicist> jrib: thank you.
[02:38] <escott> Vivekananda, you mean the swap partition?
[02:39] <Vivekananda> sorry yes
[02:39] <Vivekananda> also have another problem
[02:39] <escott> Vivekananda, swap is only there to make sure that your programs/computer dont crash when you run out of memory (and for hibernation)
[02:39] <Physicist> escott: thank  you!
[02:40] <escott> Vivekananda, not having it won't make you run slower, but it will mean that if you use up your RAM applications will randomly disappear
[02:40] <Tig3rzhark> ok, i have a question concerning the online accounts
[02:41] <Vivekananda>  I am trying to use the guide here to tweak my graphics card https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver. it talks about having na xorg.conf file and so I tried this site for it and got an error http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1492.  error of broken pipes.
[02:41] <Tig3rzhark> when i check to see if it has recognize my facebook account, my browser would open up a tab with this link: https://www.facebook.com/connect/login_success.html#access_token=AAAESuURw3rMBAH1oKZAGlcb4sIJ4L1ePSSdZBhsdaWKq7N7YisyMaVqZCgSticZAxFqGuEzArODqtFyweTbTPJb0NRh66sZBMj4fx0CZCRCQZDZD&expires_in=5183903&code=AQDHZ2Dyw4oQiVIbzoxogi483nRIpPgonucXF40QwG8wXLeq4wPylI7lm-NYix-L8IdYLTcYzxORdsE3JLR9JzBzW34mydVoFgkQr2WFWtcwanFgiL
[02:41] <Tig3rzhark> YKequOS0d7FurD8wZb18vZq9QTjD6epSjJGRUsU6lq8lVFgSoE8TsQgmzVY10kLVOyTY4q_w0rNB9d4jRszoaLguvSxvDR4BuXTkz6
[02:41] <FloodBot1> Tig3rzhark: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:41] <Tig3rzhark> sorry
[02:42] <sirstan2> Wow.
[02:42] <escott> Tig3rzhark, that was a really bad idea. you should not have posted that link
[02:42] <sirstan2> Aids4u.
[02:44] <Vivekananda> my  card is an oldd radeon rv250 firegl 9000
[02:50] <pauser> hi, is there any working way to repair suspend on Ubuntu 12.04 - Gnome3 ? i did this here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11926504 and its unsuccessful for me, please help ?!
[02:50] <Guest86701> hello?
[02:53] <Vivekananda> escott: any help ?
[02:53] <pauser> is really no one that can help repairing the suspend, i need it for my laptop when i close it, f.e. in the library !
[02:54] <amigamia> test
[02:54] <calwig> test
[02:54] <Physicist> jrib: My doenload continue in Not Queued. What can I do?
[02:55] <escott> Vivekananda, with what
[02:55] <brightspark> pauser: what problem do you have with suspending?  The screen is black on resume from suspend?
[02:55] <Physicist> jrib: I did what WBF suggest earlier, but, nothing works..
[02:56] <Physicist> *download*
[02:56] <pauser> brightspark: it does not suspend, just turn the screen black for a few secs and than brings me to login screen !
[02:56] <pauser> *turns
[02:56] <Aliendroid> dsaewq321
[02:57] <Vivekananda> with my graphics card install. problem I posted above. Also why is Xorg taking 50 cpu cycles for mem ?
[02:57] <Vivekananda> me ?
[02:57] <brightspark> pauser: can you suspend it from the command line? the command is 'pm-suspend'.
[02:57] <pauser> let me give a try
[02:58] <Physicist> I really do not want lose it.. My connection is 3G and is horrible... Is 2 days downloading! So much time...
[02:58] <escott> Vivekananda, i dont really try to tweak graphics cards
[02:58] <escott> Physicist, why would you lose it?
[02:58] <Physicist> escott: 2,5GB Slackware files!
[02:59] <Vivekananda> escott: I want to know what is making my computer sluggish and I was just trying to see if everything was working ok. I dont need to tweak if it was workign ok. How do I find if it is ?
[02:59] <escott> Physicist, so
[02:59] <pauser> brightspark: no, just the same thing like from the menu !
[02:59] <escott> Physicist, its still going to be there tomorrow
[03:00] <escott> Vivekananda, well check the system monitor
[03:00] <escott> Vivekananda, but "sluggish" is an incredibly vague descriptor.
[03:01] <Vivekananda> top gives me 50 percent cpu being used by xorg. The mems are fine. By sluggish I mean that it takes time for an app, or for example a workspace switch to respond. Once it does it is pretty fast
[03:01] <brightspark> pauser: I don't know what is causing that, I'll see if I can find anything useful and get back to you.
[03:01] <Vivekananda> I am just not sure if my video drivers are working or not. HOw do I check for that ? glxgears ?
[03:01] <escott> Vivekananda, X uses the CPU when an application requests that it draw something
[03:02] <amigamia> if you are running the 10.04LTS from my interpretation of the laws of ubuntu the server version is supported for another year.  however if you have the desktop installed as a layer for the server, how does that affect support?
[03:02] <Vivekananda> escott: in the event that the graphics card was not working well enough, the computer would be slow right ?
[03:02] <Vivekananda> I mean if the drivers are incompatible/ less compatible .
[03:03] <escott> ViVaLaRock, the slow switching sounds like it might be a lack of ram. what is the output of "free -m"
[03:03] <dj_segfault> Hi.  I tried to reboot my kubuntu 12.04 server last night, and got "kernel panic-not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on  unknown block(0,0)".  The only hint I've been able to find is that /boot is full, but that's not the case.  /boot is on / and has many GB free.  Is there anything else I can try?
[03:04] <escott> dj_segfault, that is usually indicative of the kernel not being able to find the initramfs
[03:04] <Brewster> I'm having a brain fart and I'm hoping that someone can help me out. I can't remember the term for it but it's a screen capture tool except it records video of your desktop. I know there is such a program in the software center but I can't remember...
[03:04] <dj_segfault> Brewster: recordmydesktop
[03:04] <Ben64> Brewster: xvidcap?
[03:04] <Brewster> THANK YOU
[03:04] <Brewster> to ben that is
[03:05] <Brewster> sorry dj
[03:05] <Brewster> cya
[03:05] <dj_segfault> You can also do it with ffpemg/avcon, which have X11 grab modes
[03:05] <dj_segfault> escott: How do I fix not finding initramfs.  I'm booted off of CD now
[03:06] <jdukiet> Can someone help? I am using my unity to tweak my theme. I get it exactly the way I want, but if I reboot, only some of the settings are saved. An example is, the last time I rebooted my machine, everything stayed the way I had it set except my username and the clock dissapeared.
[03:06] <Physicist> I am stalling a new Torrent client.. Everything old erased.. I will download everything again with a new download client: qBittorrent.. curse it!
[03:06] <Ben64> dj_segfault: have you tried booting an older kernel?
[03:06] <Guest93702> can anyone help me?
[03:06] <dj_segfault> Ben64: Yup.  Same message
[03:06] <escott> dj_segfault, it would be strange for that to happen without a change of some kind. try the old kernel
[03:07] <Physicist> ktorrent failed here..
[03:08] <dj_segfault> escott: I'll reboot and try the old kernel again, but it will take me a long time to get back into livecd.  Either way, how do I fix it?  I'm on my little netbook now so googling is hard
[03:08] <escott> dj_segfault, without knowing what it is its hard to say
[03:09] <escott> dj_segfault, so you have to figure out what changed. if the only thing you did was boot the new kernel its probably related to the new kernel
[03:09] <hfic> question about vsftpd. service vsftpd restart says it restarted and gives me a pid, but ps -ef doesn't show ftp running. dmesg says 'vsftpd respawning too fast, stopped'
[03:09] <Guest93702> does anyone know how to install video card
[03:09] <Ben64> hfic: bad config
[03:10] <dj_segfault> escott: Thanks.  I'll try the older kernel, and google initramfs
[03:10] <dr_willis> install a video card? power off pc.. plug it in... power on pc...
[03:10] <Ben64> Guest93702: ##hardware could probably tell you better, but you insert it into the slot on the motherboard
[03:10] <Guest93702> yes i know all of that but when i do it doesnt have video
[03:11] <Ben64> is this an ubuntu problem?
[03:11] <dr_willis> time to check how you plugged it in.. power conectorss a other cables Guest93702
[03:12] <Guest93702> the pcie x12
[03:12] <dr_willis> time to move the question to the #hardware channel i imagine Guest93702
[03:13] <Guest93702> ok
[03:13] <jdukiet> Can someone help? I am using my unity to tweak my theme. I get it exactly the way I want, but if I reboot, only some of the settings are saved. An example is, the last time I rebooted my machine, everything stayed the way I had it set except my username and the clock dissapeared. I'm using 12.04 LTS
[03:13] <azizLIGHTS> how do i see what are the siezes of each dir and its contents inside ~?
[03:13] <Guest93702> #hardware
[03:13] <Guest93702> leave
[03:13] <brightspark> pauser: you could try the workaround given at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8531487#post8531487 Other than that, I can't offer any assistance, sorry.
[03:13] <Ben64> azizLIGHTS: du
[03:14] <amigamia> if you are running the 10.04LTS from my interpretation of the laws of ubuntu the server version is supported for another year.  however if you have the desktop installed as a layer for the server, how does that affect support?
[03:14] <pauser> brightspark: ok, thanks ;)
[03:14] <dj_segfault> azizLIGHTS: If you want a graphical tool, there's one called filelight that's really good
[03:15] <dr_willis> amigamia:  the 'support' basically applys to  server security updates..  for what they do.. unless you are fering to paid support.. not sure what they do exactly.. i imagine they have a set of packages that they define as supported
[03:15] <azizLIGHTS> how do i get du to just show the current dir's dir sizes
[03:15] <azizLIGHTS> instead of every file inside every dir
[03:15] <dr_willis> azizLIGHTS:  now would be a good time to check the du man page.
[03:15] <escott> azizLIGHTS, 4kB
[03:16] <escott> azizLIGHTS, on pretty much every filesystem a directory is a single inode and is usually 4kB
[03:16] <Ben64> azizLIGHTS: check the man page for du
[03:16] <azizLIGHTS> i did du -s it only shows me the dir i am inside (current path)
[03:16] <jdukiet> So was my question not phrased correctly, or should I just not reboot ? LOL
[03:17] <dr_willis> azizLIGHTS:  tell it another directory?
[03:17] <onux> ...
[03:17] <escott> azizLIGHTS, if you only want to count files in the current directory and not descend into subdirectories the option you want is "-d"
[03:17] <onux> hello
[03:17] <onux> anyone can help with ubuntu ?
[03:17] <azizLIGHTS> i think i am confused
[03:17] <Ben64> azizLIGHTS: "man du"
[03:17] <azizLIGHTS> yes , am reading it lol
[03:17] <onux> anyone ?
[03:17] <Ben64> you can use the "man" command before just about anything, its very helpful
[03:18] <Ben64> onux: replace the flux capacitor
[03:18] <onux> ben..
[03:18] <Ben64> onux..
[03:18] <skywell> and 'man -k' to search man pages is cool too
[03:18] <onux> i look for ubuntu live. cd .iso, around 30MB
[03:19] <Ben64> well you won't find it, the live cd iso is about 700MB
[03:19] <skywell> The live install aka minimal install iso
[03:19] <escott> !minimal
[03:19] <skywell> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[03:19] <skywell> ah
[03:19] <skywell> you win
[03:20] <onux> and GUI around 30MB
[03:20] <azizLIGHTS> i did it
[03:20] <azizLIGHTS> thanks
[03:20] <dr_willis> onux:  only disrto i knwo with gui under 30mb is tinycorelinux
[03:20] <skywell> Fluxbox shouldn't be over 30mb I assume
[03:21] <ExeArco> hello, does any one know why the Ubuntu Installer would not be able to recognize disks?
[03:21] <onux> dr_willis is it GUI and ubuntu ?
[03:22] <amigamia> dr_willis i am kinda confused with your dissertation?
[03:22] <blargg> How do I get System Settings->Color->Calibrate... button ungrayed so I can click it?
[03:22] <escott> blargg, do you have a color calibrator
[03:22] <onux> is this minimal cd GUI ?
[03:23] <escott> onux, no
[03:23] <blargg> escott, no. I take it Ubuntu doesn't have a software-only one like in Mac OS X?
[03:23] <skywell> onux: IDK how big the kernel is but I don't know if you will have a ton of success finding a 30mb linux with gui os
[03:23] <escott> blargg, how would a software-only one work?
[03:23] <escott> blargg, there are a number of cheap (linux based) calibrators you can purchase
[03:24] <onux> ubuntu 30MB GUI live cd .iso
[03:24] <onux> skywell
[03:24] <dj_segfault> blargg: A color calibrator is a physical device you point at your screen to match the colors to what they should be'
[03:24] <escott> blargg, http://www.hughski.com/
[03:24] <blargg> escott, see the website http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/gamma_calibration.php for some examples of how software can tease out hardware aspects. Also its sharpness test.
[03:24] <onux> with less features,
[03:24] <onux> no problem
[03:25] <escott> blargg, i believe the option in the menu was probably introduced by the guys who make colorhug, and it probably detects the existence of a hardware calibration device and works with it
[03:26] <blargg> escott, OK, that clears it up. The help page should mention that you need a hardware device, as opposed to needing to install some package to enable the button.
[03:26] <escott> blargg, thats my suspicion
[03:26] <omakovey> hi
[03:27] <dr_willis> onux:  i doubt if there exists a Ubuntu live cd/setup with X thats 30mb..  Tinycore Linuix (not a ubuntu disrto) can do it in about 15mb but thats with a very minimal setup.
[03:27] <blargg> escott, thanks.
[03:28] <skywell> onux: The iso is 28mb. But once you start installing it downloads more data. So if you installation medium is 30mb but your hardrive is larger you can definitely install using the livecd we linked earlier
[03:28] <raj> I have ubuntu-server, and I'd like to install X
[03:28] <raj> how can I do this?
[03:28] <skywell> x being x11 or a program of your choice
[03:28] <onux> around 30MB, it doesnt have to be 30MB.
[03:28] <raj> I'd like to install X and openbox as the manager
[03:28] <skywell> that was yet to be disclosed
[03:28] <raj> skywell, there are alternatives to x11?
[03:28] <skywell> 32 bit: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[03:29] <skywell> raj: Not that I know of. But I didnt know if you were using X as a wildcard for any program
[03:29] <onux> i see quantal quetzal might be possible..
[03:29] <skywell> onux: that is what I linked yea.
[03:29] <dr_willis> raj:  sudo apt-get install thewindowmangeryouwant
[03:29] <onux> ubottu , ill try
[03:29] <skywell> raj: what dr willis said
[03:31] <onux> what a bot.
[03:31] <dr_willis> !bot
[03:31] <onux> alright dr willis.
[03:31] <skywell> !bot
[03:32] <dr_willis> bot=RoBOT
[03:32] <onux> oh ya skywell
[03:32] <dr_willis> not to be confused with a RoBOAT
[03:32] <onux> right..
[03:34] <skywell> Makes me want to make a nick "RowBot"
[03:34] <dr_willis> MikeRoweBot
[03:35] <skywell> Marilyn Monrobot
[03:35] <Xtrex> helllo
[03:35] <Xtrex> my friends, anyone can help me?
[03:35] <dr_willis> Jello Xtrex
[03:35] <dr_willis> ask the question and see
[03:36] <skywell> Thats my Ex, Ample.
[03:36] <Xtrex> I cant install network on ubuntu server
[03:36] <skywell> your network is not working?
[03:36] <Xtrex> I ve installed the alx driver, but I cant up eth0
[03:36] <Xtrex> yes, skywll, it is not working
[03:37] <dr_willis> alx is what? a wired card? a wireless card?
[03:37] <cristopher21xd> hola
[03:37] <Juzzy> guys, I did a: cp /lib/udev/rules.d/75-persistent-net-generator.rules /etc/udev/rules.d/, rebooted, but it never added a 70- for my nick, still the defaul file, do i have to do anyhitng special to activate udev for this?
[03:37] <Juzzy> nic*
[03:37] <skywell> You shouldn't need a driver for your wired connection.
[03:38] <iter> what's up Juzzy
[03:38] <autojack> I have an old Debian system with a software RAID 1, which I want to upgrade to Ubuntu. could I do an Ubuntu install as a RAID 1, but with only one disk initially? (I'd pull one drive from the current RAID, install to the other, mount the first one and copy off data, then make it part of the mirror.)
[03:38] <Xtrex> my board is stupid
[03:38] <iter> you trying to keep eth0/eth1 from being renamed?
[03:38] <Xtrex> so I need it
[03:38] <Juzzy> not my nic config :D~
[03:38] <BONG_IT> can anyone help me
[03:38] <Juzzy> iter: i want to be able to clone servers without them getting ipconflics
[03:38] <BONG_IT> i have a problem about initramfs
[03:38] <Juzzy> conflicts*
[03:39] <BONG_IT> how can i fix initramfs
[03:39] <iter> why not use puppet/salt/some other configmgr
[03:39] <Juzzy> what doesn't stop it
[03:39] <Juzzy> geez, i cant type tonight. when you clone the server, the first boot will conflict on ips.
[03:39] <Juzzy> before it can pull a new config from puppet, etc
[03:40] <iter> clone from management network IP
[03:40] <iter> eg, have your image with a 172.16.50.x ip or something
[03:40] <Juzzy> i can do eth0 - static ip, eth1 - dhcp and it'll be fine, but udev isn't working right on the default 75- rule
[03:42] <cristopher21xd> #venezuela
[03:42] <iter> did chavez die
[03:43] <Juzzy> one could only hope.
[03:44] <iter> he's still on the vent so I guess they haven't terminally extubated him yet
[03:44] <iter> sorry, OT
[03:44] <Juzzy> there's a new citgo down the road, makes me sad :/
[03:44] <jetole> Hey guys. I need to do a fresh install of ubuntu on a different. I currently have ubuntu installed on another disk which I will be keeping on this system, unchanged initially. I can't copy all content since the disk on this system is a 5 1TB disk raid 5 via Linux RAID. What do I need to know to restore my new system to as close to a prestine copy of the original system as possible?
[03:44] <jetole> join #raid
[03:45] <jetole> oops @ join #raid. forgot the /
[03:46] <dr_willis> why not use clonzilla jetole
[03:46] <Juzzy> jetole: gunna be tricky, if you plan on just cping everyhitng over
[03:47] <jetole> dr_willis: because I don't know it so that's why I'm asking. lol
[03:47] <Juzzy> you'll lose your md stuff and your raid config will prolly not work on reboot
[03:47] <jetole> Juzzy: it's just that the source disks have more info, a lot more info then the dest disks
[03:47] <dr_willis> time to hit its homepage.. its a powerfull cloneing tool
[03:47] <jetole> Juzzy: well this will basically be a fresh install on the disks that are not on raid
[03:48] <jetole> dr_willis: a raw clone sounds dangerous here since the dest can't be a complete clone of the source
[03:48] <Juzzy> ah, then it should be easier, but you'll need to fix your boot stuff after you're done
[03:48] <jetole> I know somethings already i.e. how to view installed packages and add them, etc
[03:48] <iter> what's the goal jetole
[03:48] <jetole> Juzzy: fix what boot stuff? it will be a fresh install
[03:48] <iter> why not just reinstall, and clone all packages
[03:48] <dr_willis> jetole:  time to check clinezilas features
[03:49] <jetole> iter: enrypted /
[03:49] <jetole> dr_willis: ok
[03:49] <jetole> I'll read up on it but leaving this open for anyone else to input on here
[03:49] <iter> then cp the configs you care about from etc
[03:49] <dr_willis> !backup
[03:49] <Juzzy> jetole: dpkg --get-selections on the src then --set-selections
[03:49] <iter> ^^
[03:49] <skywell> !cloning
[03:49] <iter> old school debian way there
[03:50] <Juzzy> and it'll install all your packages to match, then copy /lib and some of /etc
[03:50] <jetole> iter: I'm wondering what will be lost that won't automatically be restored for example, I seem to remember I can't cp the ~/.config/google-chrome/ as chrome knows it's a copy somehow and doesn't use it
[03:50] <jetole> Juzzy: I know about that and dpkg. btw you still need to install the packages
[03:50] <jetole> Juzzy: I think it's apt-get dist-upgrade after doing dpkg --set-selections
[03:51] <iter> well of course you need to install the packages, but is that such a big deal?
[03:52] <iter> can't speak to chrome but the important stuff will work if you do the dpkg route and copy the configs
[03:52] <jetole> isn't aptitude considered broken at the moment. I remember someone telling me, those this was like 8 months ago so maybe fixed but that aptitude had a new set of issues steming from multi arch deployment on a system i.e. installing i386 packages on a x86_64 system
[03:52] <jetole> iter: no
[03:52] <jetole> the packages are easy
[03:52] <jetole> I'm looking to what else I need to know
[03:53] <dr_willis> !aptitude
[03:53] <dr_willis> that may be fixed now.. i never use aptitude
[03:55] <jetole> dr_willis: nor do I but it was mentioned in a help post above and last I heard it was broken but 2 years ago I remember a bunch of people telling me it's time to learn aptitude to replace apt and I never did and then I remember someone telling me 8 months ago it was broken and blah blah blah. doesn't matter
[03:55] <iter> "replace apt"
[03:55] <jetole> anyways. Thanks for the help guys
[03:55] <iter> ...
[03:56] <dr_willis> ive never really used aptitude.
[03:56] <jetole> iter: i.e. people telling me apt-get is old school and should start uing aptitude. Sorry. I should have been more clear
[03:56] <iter> not even once
[03:56] <iter> aptitude is a front end for apt
[03:56] <jetole> I've used it but didn't adopt it. I think at the time I was asking about a history of which packages were installed when and someone told me if I used aptitude it kept it but if I used apt it didn't
[03:57] <jetole> again, long time ago
[03:57] <jetole> iter: yeah I meant apt-get
[03:57] <iter> of course there is a log file for either but no point in arguing minutae
[03:57] <raj> dr_willis, so X is a window manager?
[03:58] <jetole> iter: thats what someone else told. I can view a install log for apt-get based installs? how?
[03:58] <jetole> raj: no
[03:58] <iter> jetole: /var/log/apt/history.log
[03:58] <raj> ok, so I need X as a requirement for any window manager
[03:58] <wachpwnski> Does Linux mint use the same package manger as Ubuntu?
[03:58] <raj> X gives me a gui?
[03:58] <raj> are there alternatives to X?
[03:58] <packetfrog> X gives you the ability to have a gui.
[03:58] <packetfrog> xorg
[03:59] <jetole> raj: X is a GUI provider I guess... it doesn't really display anything but window managers need X to run. I don't know how to explain it but no, X isn't a window manager. Gnome, KDE, Unity, Mate, Cinnamon, fluxbox, afterstep. Those are all windows managers
[03:59] <raj> gotcha
[03:59] <jetole> raj: yes you need X as a requirement for any window manager
[03:59] <iter> jetole: there is another one too for dpkg iirc
[03:59] <raj> I thought Gnome/KDE were desktop environments
[03:59] <iter> since apt is really a frontend for dpkg
[03:59] <raj> are there alternatives to X?
[04:00] <iter> /var/log/dpkg.log
[04:00] <jetole> iter: I only really use dpkg for --get-selections, --set-selections or... well I guess I do install the odd .deb with it
[04:00]  * jetole looks at /var/log/apt/history.log
[04:00] <iter> yeah it's quite old, back when I first used debian you had to invoke is occassionally to clean up some broken stuff
[04:01] <iter> but even then apt-whatever was the preferred method
[04:01] <jetole> iter: it looks like /var/log/apt gets rotated out
[04:01] <jetole> weak
[04:01] <linux_> hello all
[04:01] <jetole> iter: does dpkg handle dependencies? I don't think it does
[04:02] <iter> nah it just installs debs
[04:02] <iter> apt- does the dependencies
[04:02] <_kevin_> hey all. for some reason, my grub-reboot doesn't really do anything... any thoughts? i've tried both with a number and with the menu entry name but no-go. suggestions?
[04:02] <jetole> thought so
[04:03] <_kevin_> and i've tried googling and following some results (ie http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1530022) but no go
[04:03] <dr_willis> gdebi is a handy tool. its like  smarter dpkg when installing
[04:04] <al__> Is the ubuntu package manager smart enough to preclude orphaned packages, or is it still worth downloading a separate program to do that?
[04:07] <jetole> al__: define "preclude orphaned packages"
[04:08] <al__> jetole: prevent orphaned packages from ever occurring
[04:09] <iter> is that an issue for you?
[04:09] <jetole> back. stepped away from my computer for a sec
[04:10] <usuario> ydddddddddddddddddd
[04:10] <usuario> ,7jjj666666666666666666666666666df
[04:10] <usuario> 3i
[04:10] <iter> I mean I may have run autoremove like 5-6x in the past several years
[04:10] <usuario>  oiiie
[04:10] <bazhang> !es | usuario
[04:10] <iter> but I would guess <1 time per year
[04:10] <jetole> al__: what do you consider a orphaned package? Ubuntu doesn't have orphaned packages per se unless you're using it past it's end of life so, al__, what do you think a orphaned package is
[04:10] <jetole> ?
[04:11] <raj> any updated directions for installing X on ubuntu server?
[04:12] <al__> jetole: using the package manager to remove a package, what is the liklihood that of all of the dependencies that were also installed, it will remove those that are no longer needed and keep those that are needed by other packages?  is it common for dependencies to remain?
[04:12] <bazhang> raj, a DE? sure install ubuntu-desktop package
[04:12] <bazhang> !info deborphan | al__
[04:13] <al__> jetole: *is it common for dependencies to remain when not needed by any packages?
[04:13] <raj> bazhang, I'm getting confused between DE and X and window manager
[04:13] <bazhang> raj, the DE will include a WM
[04:13] <raj> I don't have X.org installed on my ubuntu server, right?
[04:13] <raj> isn't that what I need first
[04:13] <raj> before looking for a DE?
[04:13] <al__> the question really is: is deborphan necessary or does the package manager adequately handle this?
[04:14] <bazhang> raj, ubuntu-desktop is a meta-package, it will give you all you need
[04:14] <bazhang> al__, mostly unneeded, but you can run it to be sure
[04:14] <tyroniuz> didnt know that it was meta ....good to know
[04:14] <raj> bazhang, I'd like to have openbox though
[04:14] <raj> so do I need all the extra stuff that ubuntu-desktop will give?
[04:15] <bazhang> raj, sudo apt-get install openbox
[04:15] <raj> and that'll take care of all gui stuff?
[04:15] <tyroniuz> all is a relative term lol
[04:15] <raj> i mean, it'll install the X dependencies that I currently don't have?
[04:17] <jetole> al__: dependencies remain when you uninstall packages but if they were installed to support a package as a dependency and all packages that used that dependency are uninstaled then the package manager will notify you that you can uninstall these unused dependencies, or at least it should. apt-get package manager does. If any of the gui ones don't then that's pathetic
[04:17] <chipo> hola
[04:18] <iter> que onda chipo
[04:18] <iter> !es | chipo
[04:18] <chipo> todo piola
[04:18] <tyroniuz> is synaptic still around? or am i thinking something else?
[04:18] <chipo> recien instale el xchat y taba viendo
[04:18] <raj> bazhang?
[04:18] <iter> por favor, english only in here please
[04:19] <chipo> ok
[04:19] <bazhang> !info synaptic | tyroniuz
[04:20] <bazhang> tyroniuz, you can /msg ubottu find packagename if you want to search while on IRC
[04:20] <silv3r_m00n> I installed lubuntu, and in system monitor it shows lightdm running, is it necessary for it to keep running /
[04:20] <silv3r_m00n> ?
[04:21] <iter> silv3r_m00n: short answer yes, less short answer try sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm restart and see what it does
[04:22] <tyroniuz> right on ...thanks all for the msgs
[04:23] <kantlivelong> anyone here use nvidia mosaic w/ Geforce Fermi cardS?
[04:29] <raj> I installed xorg and openbox, but after rebooting, I still don't have a gui
[04:29] <onux> ah ubuntu qetzal dont work.
[04:29] <onux> it's not live cd
[04:29] <rudy_> #teamhacksung-support
[04:30] <holstein> onux: its not working on your machine?
[04:30] <holstein> raj: startx ?
[04:30] <dr_willis> raj so did you start up x?
[04:30] <dr_willis> raj:  you are going to have a bit of a learning curve to learn  if you are building a desktop from scratch
[04:30] <dr_willis> :)
[04:31] <onux> dr willis
[04:31] <onux> i am looking for ubuntu livecd GUI around 30MB .iso
[04:31] <dr_willis> i wonder how well that linux from scratch guide covers this sort of stuff
[04:32] <dr_willis> onux:  i doubt if such a thing exists
[04:32] <onux> less features will be alright.
[04:32] <bazhang> !mini | onux
[04:32] <dr_willis> onux:  just the normal ubuntu kernel is like 100mb i think
[04:32] <dr_willis> well with its moduiles. ;)
[04:32] <topper4125> mini isn't gui... just installed mini on this machine about an hr ago
[04:32] <topper4125> it *can* be... just not out of the box
[04:32] <dr_willis> i wonder how small the normal mini install is..
[04:32] <bazhang> onux, what you want does not exist
[04:33] <topper4125> 28Mb
[04:33] <dr_willis> onux:  perhaps tell us why you want it?
[04:33] <onux> Quantal Quetzal dont work
[04:33] <dr_willis> topper4125:  makes me wonder what all they got cut out of the kenrel
[04:33] <onux> it's just not came alive
[04:33] <bazhang> onux, be clear on how, stop repeating that
[04:33] <onux> it must download ?
[04:33] <Gavilan2> So I installed nod32 (and some x86 lib it needed) and for some strange reason my ubuntu GUI doesn't work any more... How do I fix this? I can log on to the console and do stuff there....
[04:33] <topper4125> dr_willis, i have no idea on that... lol
[04:33] <dr_willis> !info nod32
[04:34] <Gavilan2> the antivirus
[04:34] <dr_willis> topper4125:  tinycore managed to be so small because it cuts out things such as wireless drivers and sound card drivers by defaultg
[04:34] <onux> Quantal must be online, i dont want that way.
[04:34] <raj> holstein, dr_willis, do I have to do something to make X start automatically in the future?
[04:34] <onux> is this quantal already GUI right ?
[04:34] <onux> without download online.
[04:34] <dr_willis> raj:  thats the point of the login managers like xdm, slim, gdm.. and so on
[04:34] <Gavilan2> http://www.eset.com/us/download/home/detail/family/71/
[04:34] <topper4125> ah... The mini had wife and sound for this acer aspireOne Netbook out of the box...
[04:35] <kantlivelong> why AV for linux?
[04:35] <topper4125> *wifi... not wife... the wife hasn't worked in years lol
[04:35] <kantlivelong> seems rather silly
[04:35] <kantlivelong> AV in general is silly
[04:35] <Gavilan2> kantlivelong: I prefer to be on the safe and silly side...
[04:35] <Gavilan2> :)
[04:35] <dr_willis> raj:  it might be worth skimming the Linux From scratch  manual.. its not ubuntu.. but it covers a lot of the core 'what does what' type questions
[04:35] <kantlivelong> Gavilan2: by the time your AV detects something your already comprimised
[04:36] <dr_willis> linux av apps.. normaly scans windows files for windows viruses...
[04:36] <Gavilan2> kantlivelong: not really.....
[04:36] <dr_willis> and they normally dont do it in 'real time'
[04:36] <dr_willis> so they are good for servers storeing.transfering files.. or to scan windows systems via a live cd. or other method
[04:37] <kantlivelong> ill accept protecting windows users :P
[04:37] <kantlivelong> ClamAV is worth looking into
[04:37] <dr_willis> since i dont know of any current linux viruses.... thats about all they can do...
[04:37] <topper4125> I also found the unofficial Arch install guide handy for a 'not so in-depth' guide to what does what from power up to GUI as well
[04:37] <holstein> avg has a live CD
[04:38] <dr_willis> never rely on just one av app.. always scan with several if you want to be truely paranoid.. err.. secue..
[04:38] <Gavilan2> Now I'm getting: Your screen, graphic card and input device settings couldn't be detected correctly. you'll need to configure these things yourself....
[04:38] <Gavilan2> what would you like to do?
[04:39] <holstein> Gavilan2: if you remember what you installed, just remove it, and try login
[04:39] <Gavilan2> use low graphics mode for just one session?
[04:39] <Gavilan2> reconfigure graphics
[04:39] <Gavilan2> troubleshoot the error
[04:39] <Gavilan2> exit the console login
[04:39] <Gavilan2> holstein: How do I remove it?
[04:40] <hfic> I'm getting message in dmesg that vsftp and ssh are spawning too fast and have been stopped. I haven't messed with my ssh, and the ftp connection was working 12hours ago. ideas?
[04:40] <holstein> Gavilan2: i would go where you installed it, and unistall. or share what it is you think broke it, and a volunteer can suggest help removing it
[04:41] <Gavilan2> I installed the nod32 antivirus
[04:41] <Gavilan2> and some x86 library that it required
[04:42] <md_5> attempting to use sudo iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p udp --dport 2233 -j DNAT --to 10.0.3.1:22 to get ssh on an LXC instance, but I cant ssh to port 2233
[04:42] <Gavilan2> I installed libc6-i386  or something like that
[04:42] <hfic> people install antivirus on nix?
[04:43] <Gavilan2> I do :)
[04:43] <hfic> well you try =P
[04:43] <lunitik> hfic: mostly to keep windows clients safe, don't want to send them something
[04:44] <al__> what antivirus do you recommend for ubuntu?
[04:44] <holstein> Gavilan2: just try and sort out what you did, and what you think broke it
[04:44] <lunitik> clamav
[04:44] <md_5> clamav
[04:44] <hfic> ^
[04:44] <lunitik> md_5: copycat
[04:45] <KI4RO> Must be an echo in here
[04:46] <holstein> Gavilan2: you can also try as another user... see if its just your user config that got messed up somehow
[04:47] <roasted> Does anybody know of a way to change the Unity launcher icon? (Not the icon theme - specifically that icon alone)
[04:48] <raj> is there any filemanager (like dolphin) that doesn't require a desktop environment such as gnome or kde? I just want openbox
[04:48] <Gavilan2> holstein: How do I create a new user?
[04:49] <Gavilan2> BTW: My configuration got messed up... how do I fix it?
[04:49] <unheeding> Gavilan2: go to system settings -> User Accounts
[04:49] <khacker> Hello
[04:49] <unheeding> raj: try PCmanFM
[04:49] <Gavilan2> unheeding: The GUI doesn't work....
[04:49] <Gavilan2> console or nothing.....
[04:49] <unheeding> Gavilan2: can you switch to a virtual terminal using ctrl+alt+f1?
[04:49] <Gavilan2> yes
[04:49] <unheeding> and log in?
[04:49] <raj> Gavilan2, adduser
[04:50] <Gavilan2> yes
[04:50] <al__> lunitik: pm re: clamav?
[04:50] <topper4125> roasted, did your read this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/68612/how-to-change-the-dash-icon-in-the-unity-launcher
[04:50] <unheeding> Gavilan2: what seems to be the problem with your account?
[04:50] <Gavilan2> unheeding: The screen/gpu configuration broke
[04:51] <roasted> topper4125: I did not. This looks good. I'll try this now. Thank you!
[04:51] <yatriga> need to connect to mac shares
[04:51] <unheeding> Gavilan2: a new user wont fix it.  you may have to uninstall the proprietary drivers and delete your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:51] <topper4125> roasted, You're welcome, good luck
[04:51] <yatriga> from ubuntu..... not able to do it
[04:51] <Gavilan2> unheeding: How do I uninstall the propertiaries drivers?
[04:51] <unheeding> Gavilan2: what kind of graphics card do you have?
[04:51] <raj> unheeding, that requires LXFE
[04:52] <yatriga> pls help
[04:52] <lunitik> al__: I don't see any such pm
[04:52] <unheeding> raj: really?  is it in the dependencies?
[04:52] <Gavilan2> BTW:  /etc/X11/xorg.conf doesn't exist, but  /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe does....
[04:52] <unheeding> raj: lxde stuff can be used without the whole environment, usually.
[04:52] <raj> oh
[04:52] <KI4RO> What is signon-ul?  When I restart I get a message that says it is still running and should I restart anyway
[04:52] <raj> well, I have xorg
[04:52] <Gavilan2> unheeding: Mmmmm I have a GTX 670, but this is running inside a VM, so I'm not sure....
[04:53] <yatriga> can someone help me in connecting to mac shares from ubuntu
[04:53] <yatriga> can someone help me in connecting to mac shares from ubuntu
[04:53] <yatriga> can someone help me in connecting to mac shares from ubuntu
[04:53] <MrRanDom_> yatriga, don't spam the room
[04:53] <KI4RO> yatriga, Ask once and be patient
[04:53] <lunitik> yatriga: what protocol do those mac shares use?
[04:54] <Gavilan2> so... I removed that xorg file...
[04:54] <Gavilan2> what more cna I do?
[04:54] <yatriga> can someone help me in connecting to mac shares from ubuntu
[04:54] <yatriga> mar gaye sab ke sab
[04:55] <holstein> Gavilan2: well,, you can use the recover console to do lots of things.. recofigure graphics.. purge drivers, or packages.. the issue is finding out what the problem is
[04:55] <unheeding> Gavilan2: i dunno, with a vm it's tricky.  what did you do to mess up the graphics?
[04:55] <yatriga> guys pls help
[04:55] <holstein> yatriga: i would make the mac share ftp or ssh, or samba
[04:55] <ponch0> Does anyone know How or IF i can reinstall my Ubuntu on Virtualbox? I managed to gunk it up, as I'm a newb and its just unmanagable at this point.
[04:55] <holstein> ponch0: yes
[04:55] <Gavilan2> unheeding: I installed Nod 32 and the x86 library!!!!!!
[04:55] <yatriga> holstein how do i?
[04:55] <bazhang> ponch0, get the iso and start afresh
[04:56] <ponch0> holstein: Awesome! how would I do it?
[04:56] <ponch0> bazhang: but how do I get rid of the old isntall?
[04:56] <bazhang> !samba | yatriga have a read
[04:56] <unheeding> Gavilan2: on your host?
[04:56] <bazhang> ponch0, just junk/delete it
[04:56] <Gavilan2> unheeding: on the VM
[04:56] <onux> hey poncho0
[04:56] <yatriga> ubottu thx all
[04:56] <holstein> ponch0: i would just remover it ans start over. with a new VM
[04:56] <unheeding> Gavilan2: i'd uninstall it, you don't need an antivirus on linux
[04:57] <ponch0> holstein: just right click delete from windows type a deal?
[04:57] <Gavilan2> unheeding: How the hell do I uninstall it?
[04:57] <Gavilan2> I've no idea how to uninstall something in ubuntu
[04:57] <Gavilan2> less of all from command line....
[04:57] <unheeding> "sudo apt-get remove nod32*"
[04:57] <holstein> ponch0: in virtualbox.. just remove the VM.. or just leave it there and make a new one
[04:57] <unheeding> assuming that's the package name
[04:57] <yatriga> rhythembox does not respond
[04:57] <ponch0> oooh Ok sweet and that will free up the data used?
[04:57] <Gavilan2> unable to locate pacagke nod32
[04:57] <yatriga> rhythembox does not respond so sick
[04:58] <ponch0> holstein: and that will free up the space?
[04:58] <bazhang> !repeat | yatriga
[04:58] <bazhang> Gavilan2, how did you install it
[04:59] <holstein> ponch0: if you get a new one set up and want to remove the old one, that will "free up space"...
[04:59] <yatriga> sorry folks i will stick by channel rule
[04:59] <ponch0> holstein: reason I ask is because i've read somewhere, that removing it isn't possible. oh well thank you.
[04:59] <holstein> yatriga: you can launch it from the terminal and see if there is helpful output
[05:00] <yatriga> holstein how do i?
[05:00] <holstein> ponch0: you can rightclick on the VM, or go to the menu
[05:00] <yatriga> holstein how do i?  can u tell me the command
[05:00] <ponch0> holstein: thank you very much
[05:00] <Gavilan2> bazhang: I downloaded the thing, and double clicked on it
[05:00] <ponch0> bazhang: thank you very much
[05:00] <bazhang> Gavilan2, whats the link
[05:00] <holstein> yatriga: open a terminal and type the command.. rhythmbox
[05:01] <Gavilan2> http://www.eset.com/us/download/thank-you-eav-linux/file/6573/
[05:01] <MrRanDom_> yatriga, as in cntrl+alt+t to open a terminal just in case
[05:01] <bazhang> Gavilan2, was it a .deb or a tar.gz
[05:01] <Gavilan2> eset_nod32av_64bit_en.linux
[05:02] <yatriga> any substitute to Rhythembox?
[05:02] <onux> hello can quantal quetzal run program without install
[05:03] <MrRanDom_> yatriga, there are many music and media players for Linux/Ubuntu
[05:03] <yatriga> Amerock can help
[05:03] <Gavilan2> so? any ideas?
[05:03] <MrRanDom_> yatriga, have you sought help from the Mac crowd
[05:04] <MrRanDom_> yatriga, one of my favorite media players for years has been VLC
[05:05] <hfic> how can i find out the last packages the apt-get upgrade installed?
[05:05] <Gavilan2> I'm about to uninstall ubuntu....
[05:05] <onux> anyone knows quantal quetzal ?rn
[05:05] <holstein> Gavilan2: reinstall, you mean.. and that will work
[05:05] <yatriga> Vlc has sad sound codecs...... Mac Crowd is Shit
[05:05] <holstein> yatriga: what the language please
[05:06] <yatriga> holstein sorry
[05:06] <holstein> yatriga: i woud share samba from the mac.. and connect smb://ip
[05:06] <yatriga> holstein cool
[05:07] <yatriga> holstein Is it that samba is in mac already or any further installation required? newbee here
[05:07] <Gavilan2> holstein: No, uninstall...
[05:07] <holstein> yatriga: it was in it last time i checked..
[05:07] <Gavilan2> And remove it for ever... It's pissing me off...
[05:07] <pooltable> have an old computer like to add a new hard drive if my computer will support the 6.0Gb/s or not?
[05:07] <holstein> Gavilan2: you cant really "uninstall" it.. you'll have to just install over it, and please watch the language
[05:08] <Gavilan2> People say linux (or ubuntu) works far better than windows... In my experience, even Win98 works best than this O_o
[05:08] <holstein> Gavilan2: whats the issue? have you removed what you installed that broke your OS?
[05:08] <yatriga> holstein cos i have already shared a folder which is not seen in the ubuntu
[05:08] <Gavilan2> holstein: I've no idea how to remove it....
[05:08] <holstein> Gavilan2: you should come here first.. clamAV is the only AV i have installed
[05:08] <holstein> Gavilan2: it works great.. i think you installed something that did more damage than help
[05:09] <bazhang> Gavilan2, you install something completely unnecessary and ill-advised and then cannot remove it? thats not an ubuntu issue
[05:09] <holstein> Gavilan2: did you follow a guide you can share so that one of the volunteers can help you remove what is breaking your system?
[05:09] <Gavilan2> bazhang: Before installing it, ubuntu wasn't working great anyway....
[05:09] <bazhang> Gavilan2, be advised this is NOT The complaints/rants channel
[05:09] <MrRanDom_> yatriga, just so I understand, are you trying to play media on your Ubuntu computer that is located on the Mac?
[05:09] <holstein> Gavilan2: we can troubleshoot those issues separately.. no worries :)
[05:09] <Gavilan2> I had an ubuntu with just firefox + pidgin...
[05:10] <yatriga> MrRanDom_ YaY
[05:10] <Gavilan2> and the screen broke several times...
[05:10] <MrRanDom_> i.e. Mac>>>>>Ubuntu
[05:10] <yatriga> MrRanDom_ YaY Man
[05:10] <Gavilan2> and the title bar seems to be broken O_o
[05:10] <holstein> Gavilan2: the hardware broke? im sorry to hear that..
[05:10] <Gavilan2> (I think it's implemented that way)
[05:10] <Gavilan2> holstein: the software...
[05:10] <bazhang> Gavilan2, hardware issues? go to ##hardware
[05:10] <Gavilan2> My hardware runs perfectly well.....
[05:10] <holstein> Gavilan2: seems? you can try other title bars if you like.. whats the issue?
[05:11] <holstein> Gavilan2: i thought you had said you broke the screen on a system you realy enjoyed.. anyways.. what would you like to remove? what AV did you install? and how?
[05:11] <yatriga> MrRanDom_ Holstein Movies from Mac to be streamed or to be copied on ubuntu
[05:11] <Gavilan2> holstein: I've already told you like 3 times...
[05:11] <holstein> yatriga: i usually just go to "sharing" in mac, and share something i know i can connect to.. ssh, ftp.. samba
[05:11] <Gavilan2> If you don't want to help, just say so....
[05:11] <bazhang> Gavilan2, not with any degree of clarity, no you have not
[05:12] <holstein> Gavilan2: that was actually me asking you how i can help.. how can i help you remove the software you installed that broke your system?
[05:12] <MrRanDom_> yatriga, have you tried selecting 'connect to server' from the 'go' menu on the mac? and then connect with the Ubuntu machine's server address, which is something like smb://machine_name ...
[05:13] <thelodger> Hey folks, I need some advice. I'm teaching Linux to complete Linux beginners over 4 weeks.
[05:13] <thelodger> The first week I got them to install Ubuntu, gave them the 50 year history of Linux (mainframe, Unix, GNU, Linux, Android), and explained the basic root structure of the system (/bin, /home, /etc, and so on).
[05:13] <thelodger> The following week was all CLI, from cd to grep. I'm now rather stuck as to where I should go next with the class. Any suggestions?
[05:13] <MrRanDom_> thelodger, wow. seriously? lol.
[05:13] <zeromodulus> is there a way to cancel login? or reboot from login screen? I hit the power button and nothing happened.
[05:14] <holstein> thelodger: i did screen and we all connected to the session.. made html files and whateve.. theres a commandline compantion app
[05:14] <holstein> companion
[05:14] <hfic> thelodger : package installation, upgrading, log files, vim/nano ...
[05:14] <thelodger> MrRanDom_: seriously =)
[05:15] <lunitik> thelodger: there is actually an Ubuntu Classroom teaching guide around somewhere
[05:15] <thelodger> holstein: screen is a great idea, I really need to explain how ssh is so useful too!
[05:15] <Laogeodritt> thelodger: Any particular focus to the course? e.g. are you targeting general desktop/GUI users, or is your audience Windows sysadmins who are interested in running Linux servers? That should have a big effect on what you'd prioritise or cover at all
[05:15] <MrRanDom_> thelodger, you know, it depends on the students, their knowledge of computers, what they hope to accomplish using Linux; usually people have things they especially like to do on a computer - music, photos, writing - so it's good to target something rather than trying to teach 'everything'
[05:16] <hfic> Laogeodritt: hes already said its a class of newbies
[05:16] <JoseeAntonioR> thelodger: All the documentation we use in the Ubuntu Classroom Team is at wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom
[05:16] <thelodger> hfic: definitely a good idea, I'd drafted up some vim bits already =)
[05:16] <lunitik> thelodger: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Training will give some ideas
[05:16] <Laogeodritt> hfic: "Linux beginners" is still very broad
[05:16] <thelodger> lunitik: That's savage, thanks for the link!
[05:16] <hfic> Laogeodritt: if he's teaching cd and grep .. i doubt its to any type of sysadmin
[05:16] <MrRanDom_> I've been at this more than a decade and I feel like a beginner every day
[05:16] <Laogeodritt> hfic: good point
[05:17] <hfic> :)
[05:17] <dr_willis> regular expressions :) make a good topic to teach beginners...
[05:17] <yatriga> MrRanDom_ No, but i need to
[05:17] <zeromodulus> is it bad to hold in the power button at the login screen?
[05:17] <dr_willis> really scare them
[05:17] <hfic> make sure you teach editors!! and not emacs
[05:17] <MrRanDom_> yatriga, do you have samba even installed on the ubuntu machine?
[05:17] <dr_willis> zeromodulus:  normally if you just press it- it should reboot.. forceing a power off.. is not a good idea
[05:17] <Laogeodritt> dr_willis: eek, regexes to beginners? Either really scare them, or make them use them EVERYWHERE... I made myself more problems than I solved when I first learnt how to use regexes...
[05:18] <zeromodulus> yeah, I thought so too, but it doesn't work.
[05:18] <yatriga> MrRanDom_ Ya
[05:18] <zeromodulus> I pressed it a few times and it just stayed on.
[05:18] <dr_willis> zeromodulus:  and befor you do it.. you really could go to the console and try a reboot/shutdown command
[05:18] <lunitik> hfic: emacs isn't a text editor, it is a text-based operating system
[05:18] <zeromodulus> can't login
[05:18] <dr_willis> or at least run the 'sync' command a few times in a row befor you force it down.
[05:18] <dr_willis> zeromodulus:  you cant login at the console/ why not?
[05:18] <zeromodulus> forgot my password
[05:18] <thelodger> Laogeodritt: That's a very good point. The distribution of these people would be students, people who have been told they need to try Ubuntu or some other distro, and people who work for tech companies but either not in a technical role but would like to, or people who work on embedded software. I think for most of them it's to get comfortable with the system. My goal would be to have them become constant Linux users ;)
[05:19] <zeromodulus> it's been years since this machine has been turned on.
[05:19] <hfic> lunitik: sorry, forgot the separate that thought .. haha
[05:19] <iter> I had 99 problems so I decided to use regex
[05:19] <MrRanDom_> yatriga: I sent you a link
[05:19] <dr_willis> zeromodulus:  the login screen might have an actual poweroff/shutdown menu item somewhere
[05:19] <iter> now I have 100 problems
[05:19] <zeromodulus> it's ubuntu server edition
[05:19] <zeromodulus> no GUI installe
[05:19] <zeromodulus> d
[05:19] <dr_willis> zeromodulus:  so you ment to say you were at the console LOGIN: prompt. ;)
[05:20] <holstein> zeromodulus: there are recovery consoles.. under the current kernel in grub
[05:20] <Gavilan2> bazhang & holstein: http://pastebin.com/VLKN1eCt
[05:20] <dr_willis> zeromodulus:  alt-ctrl-delete or alt-cgrl-bs may kick it into reboot mode also
[05:20] <zeromodulus> ah, k
[05:20] <zeromodulus> k
[05:20] <oldude67> now i know its just not me, installed lubuntu on second computer different hardware and still having issues with google chrome and yahoo home page.
[05:20] <zeromodulus> ah, sweet, ctrl+alt+del did the trick.
[05:20] <zeromodulus> muy excellente.
[05:21] <thelodger> MrRanDom_: Similar to what I just said to Laogeodritt, you both raised a very good point. I don't want to scare some of them away by going full terminal on them the entire time. I think I'll put in more of the 'how to everyday things' into it over the next two weeks so
[05:21] <oldude67> for some reason or another its bringing it up as mobile.
[05:22] <MrRanDom_> thelodger: Good idea. If you show them you can do the same things as on a Mac or PC - then you can tell them some advantages. It's also good to go over disadvantages - but maybe that's a little advanced at this stage.
[05:22] <werzer23> I have a "is not in the sudoers file" on 12.04; grub is not being displayed on bootup.  How do I proceed to fix this?
[05:22] <thelodger> dr_willis: I already drafted out the regex part and then said to myself "This stuff still confuses me" which is why I've been stuck for where to go =P I reckon I'll leave it for a little longer on it =)
[05:22] <holstein> Gavilan2: i would remove that.. and just use clamav.. its well supported
[05:23] <MrRanDom_> thelodger: and as long as the script kiddies of the world keep hacking into burger king, nbc and etc. you'll probably have lots to talk about re: security.
[05:23] <holstein> Gavilan2: try and get your system back by undoing what you did that broke it.. remove that
[05:23] <zeromodulus> arg, it's hold shift to get to the grub menu right?
[05:23] <Gavilan2> holstein: How?
[05:23] <holstein> zeromodulus: should work
[05:24] <thelodger> MrRanDom_: agreed =) Cheers for the help!
[05:25] <holstein> Gavilan2: i would look at what you installed.. remove them.. and go from there
[05:25] <zeromodulus> haha, I need to get this thing running somehow, because it's the only machine I have with a CD burner.
[05:25] <holstein> Gavilan2: you should be able to get to the package manager you are comfortable using in low-graphics mode
[05:25] <Gavilan2> holstein: I don't know how to remove it!!!
[05:25] <zeromodulus> so I can't even burn recovery discs or install something else or put in a livecd.
[05:25] <Gavilan2> holstein: I can't do anything... I have that screen, and I can't get to anything else....
[05:25] <Laogeodritt> thelodger: sounds like a good plan. Since they're non-technical users, get them comfortable with the GUI analogues to daily Win/OSX stuff, and go as far as they're interested/comfortable in configuring in the GUIs. There's some nice transition points into command-line stuff (e.g. editors -> command-line editors; be sure to front-load your explanations as to advantages/disadvantages, otherwise
[05:25] <Laogeodritt> people will just think they're unnecessarily difficult to learn compared to their usual GUI stuff and not care)
[05:25] <holstein> Gavilan2: "that screen" ?
[05:25] <Gavilan2> I can't actually get into low-graphics mode, I just have those 4 options, and they aren't working properly
[05:26] <Gavilan2> yes, the one i described in the paste bin
[05:26] <holstein> Gavilan2: they?
[05:26] <vicsar> ..
[05:26] <tom__> #hardware
[05:26] <holstein> Gavilan2: you can sudo autoremove whatever you installed
[05:27] <werzer23> "...not in the sudoers file"
[05:27] <werzer23> grub is not being displayed on bootup
[05:27] <werzer23> how do I fix this?
[05:28] <werzer23> 12.04
[05:28] <zeromodulus> now the machine is just blank, not responding to ctrl+alt+del, or power button press.
[05:28] <holstein> werzer23: can you get to grub tapping shift? you can go to a root recovery shell
[05:28] <dr_willis> werzer23:  what user did you add oritinally during the install?
[05:28] <MrRanDom_> werzer23, so what is being displayed?
[05:28] <MrRanDom_> sorry - I guess I came late to the party.
[05:28] <holstein> zeromodulus: maybe test the hard drive/memory if its just been sitting around for a while
[05:29] <werzer23> my main user is not in the sudo file nor can that user switch to root
[05:29] <MrRanDom_> zeromodulus, cntrl+alt+del is a windows thing unless you programmed that in Linux to do the shutdown thing
[05:29] <MrRanDom_> or whatever
[05:29] <werzer23> nor does the normal grub option menu show up on bootup
[05:29] <dr_willis> werzer23:  press and hold shift at bootuiup to see the grub menu
[05:29] <holstein> werzer23: can you tap shift and get grub to pop up?
[05:30] <Gavilan2> holstein: autoremove command doesn't exist...
[05:30] <Gavilan2> holstein: so, how do I remove it?
[05:30] <werzer23> i will try
[05:30] <dr_willis> Gavilan2:  its sudo apt-get autoremove
[05:30] <holstein> Gavilan2: apt-get autoremove
[05:31] <thelodger> JoseeAntonioR: I missed your reply earlier, just saw it now and will check it out =) Thanks!
[05:31] <thelodger> Laogeodritt: Yeah, I think you're right on that. Especially with regard to the everyday things. And VLC ;)
[05:31] <Gavilan2> holstein: and after that, I reboot or what?
[05:32] <holstein> Gavilan2: we willl be troubleshooting what all damage the application you tried to install did.. so, i would remove whatever you installed and try rebooting, and report
[05:33] <JoseeAntonioR> thelodger: if you need any help on that, a member from the classroom team is here to help
[05:34] <zeromodulus> ah well, it's not like I can do much with this machine anyway. still need to get it connected to a network.
[05:34] <zeromodulus> I want to put OpenBSD on it too.
[05:35] <neirpyc> Anyone out there have much experience with Macbook Pro installs?
[05:36] <Gavilan2> Same "low graphic stuff message".....
[05:36] <Riberty> how do i launch deadbeef from terminal?
[05:37] <prashant_123456> how to change screen resolution in ubuntu 12.04 using onboard graphics intel dg41 rq
[05:39] <dr_willis> prashant_123456:  the monitors/displays setting tool dosent work for you?
[05:40] <prashant_123456> dr_willis, i dont have monitors /displays settings in my menu
[05:40] <prashant_123456> dr_willis, using ubuntu classic theme
[05:40] <dr_willis> prashant_123456:  what desktop are you using?
[05:40] <dr_willis> look in the system settings tool
[05:40] <dr_willis> or whatever its called..
[05:40] <prashant_123456> dr_willis, when i switch to default gnome i have display
[05:41] <prashant_123456> dr_willis, but not in gnome classic
[05:41] <dr_willis> prashant_123456:  you set the res in either one.. it applys to both.
[05:41] <prashant_123456> dr_willis, yes but there i cannot increase screen resolution its maximumt there
[05:42] <dr_willis> so now we are down to  the actual problem....
[05:42] <prashant_123456> dr_willis, yes
[05:42] <unheeding> ignore #ubuntu,#ubuntu-offtopic ALL -PUBLIC -HILIGHTS -ACTIONS
[05:42] <unheeding> whoops
[05:42] <dr_willis> what is your max res, and how high does it say it can go?
[05:43] <prashant_123456> wait for that i have to log out then log in using gnome default please wait
[05:43] <dr_willis> unheeding:  ignore public and the channel gets a lot quieter. ;)
[05:43] <dr_willis> or he could have figured out the command to run the settings tool... oh well.
[05:44] <prashant_123456> dr_willis, its 1600x900
[05:44] <dr_willis> thatss your laptops native res?
[05:45] <prashant_123456> dr_willis, running desktop on intel dg 41rq onboard graphics
[05:45] <dr_willis> so is that your monitors native resolution?
[05:45] <prashant_123456> dr_willis, everything is fine with windows 7 but not working with ubuntu
[05:46] <prashant_123456> dr_willis, i cant get your question
[05:46] <dr_willis> what is the resoluition your monitor uses
[05:46] <prashant_123456> dr_willis, in display it shows this one
[05:46] <dr_willis> and what is the res you are useing now
[05:46] <prashant_123456> when i use display it shows 1600x900
[05:47] <dr_willis> and what is your monitor capable of displaying?
[05:48] <prashant_123456> dr_willis, it is capable of more than that
[05:48] <dr_willis> and how much more?
[05:48] <prashant_123456> dr_willis, wait i will tell u
[05:48]  * dr_willis w8's
[05:49] <lion> hello world!!
[05:50] <neirpyc> hello lion
[05:50] <prashant_123456> 1280 x 1024 dr_willis
[05:50]  * deentut rolls eyes
[05:50] <lion> how you doing?
[05:50] <lion> rools eye d?
[05:50] <prashant_123456> my windows 7 have 1280 x 1024  resolution on the same monitor
[05:51] <lion> whats been going on?
[05:52] <prashant_123456> dr_willis, 1280 x 1024  i need
[05:52] <lion> any one from michigan?
[05:52] <lion> hey dave!!
[05:52] <deentut> lake michigan?
[05:52] <IdleOne> !ot
[05:52] <dr_willis> hmm gotta hate it when your phone just reboots... ;)
[05:53] <bazhang> lion wrong channel for that
[05:53] <lion> alright...michigan in the house....royal oak here!!
[05:53] <prashant_123456> dr_willis,
[05:53] <lion> blah blah bazhang
[05:53] <deentut> there are no pinguins @ lake michigan
[05:53] <topper4125> way wrong answer lion
[05:54] <bazhang> lion this is support only. chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:54] <Dave114> trying to setup the latest LTS server version on an old laptop to experiment with openstack.  Wifi worked during install but didn't come up on later boots.
[05:54] <Dave114> Manuall installing rfkill and doing an rfkill unblock wifi then allowed me to get wifi access temporarily but I still don't have wifi working on boot everytime the system is restarted
[05:54] <Dave114> any ideas how to fix this?  Been googling but not having much success
[05:55] <Dave114> with openstack packages installed (but not configured) I now no longer have to run rfkill manually but do have to "ifdown wlan0; ifup wlan0" to get the network to work
[05:56] <neirpyc> Anyone have experience with Macbook Pro installs and getting the Nvidia stuff working correctly? I'm running a Macbook Pro 7,1 and everything I've tried just turns the screen off during boot!
[05:56] <dr_willis> prashant_123456:  hmm>
[05:56] <lion> need system work on my view sonic latest LTS ok...wifi...comes in and out help
[05:56] <MrRanDom_> neirpyc, you realize this isn't a Mac room, right?
[05:57] <prashant_123456> dr_willis, thanks
[05:57] <neirpyc> Macbook Pro running Ubuntu?
[05:57] <MrRanDom_> oh. my mistake. it's late. or early. sorry.
[05:57] <prashant_123456> dr_willis, tell my how to do this
[05:57] <Dave114> neirpyc: assuming you're installing ubuntu, is there a failsafe boot option?
[05:57] <dr_willis> prashant_123456:   what was your Monitors res you want to use?  and what res are you curently using now? You might havee to update your vvideo card drivers or make a custome xorg.conf or use the xrandr tools
[05:58] <MrRanDom_> Dave114 - you using which version of Ubuntu? Or did I miss that?
[05:58] <prashant_123456> dr_willis, monitor on auto adjust
[05:58] <Dave114> MrRanDom_: latest LTS version of server.  12.04.2
[05:58] <prashant_123456> dr_willis, i want to use 1280 x 1024
[05:59] <dr_willis> prashant_123456:  and the max the config tool let you set is?
[05:59] <neirpyc> Dave114, running nouveau, it runs fine. When I install the nvidia-current-updates after Grub it just shuts the screen off and I have to shut down. If I boot with "nosplash --verbose text" I'm able to get to the login terminal and remove the nvidia stuff and reboot. I'm running 12.04.2
[05:59] <prashant_123456> dr_willis, 1600x900 currently using
[05:59] <prashant_123456> dr_willis, max 1600x900
[06:00] <dr_willis> prashant_123456:  so you want to use a 'square' res instead of a wide screen res?
[06:00] <dr_willis> isent 1280x1024 the old square type monitor res? i forget..
[06:00] <prashant_123456> no i want to use widescreen
[06:00]  * miadbahrami hi
[06:00] <dr_willis> prashant_123456:  and what is your  monitors native resolution? that may be the core of the issue..
[06:01] <prashant_123456> dr_willis, how to do that please tell me
[06:01] <dr_willis> prashant_123456:  look at the monitors specs.. normally you want to use the monitors native res for the best picture. not scaleing anything
[06:01] <dr_willis> 1280x1024 is wide screen?
[06:01] <Dave114> neirpyc: have you tried waiting a min or so and/or hitting ctrl+alt+fN after a while?
[06:01] <prashant_123456> dr_willis, ok
[06:02] <neirpyc> Dave114, I've tried waiting it out, but nothing ever seems to happen. What does ctrl+alt+fN do?
[06:03] <omkar_> Hey guys,I have ubuntu 12.10 and there is an issue where the cdrom is continuosly being ejected by the OS
[06:03] <omkar_> laptop acer 5745G
[06:03] <miadbahrami> how to sync two directori in ntfs partition partition in command ?
[06:03] <Dave114> neirpyc: running mac os x on a macbook pro right now (my current probs are with a headless ubuntu server box).  ctrl+alt+fN migh get you to one of the virtual-terminals if there are problems starting X
[06:03] <holstein> omkar_: sounds like hardare to me
[06:03] <dr_willis> miadbahrami:  rsync or unison are 2 ways
[06:04] <dr_willis> !info unison
[06:04] <omkar_> i am seeing this generallyy when i connect external keyboard,mouse and monitor to the laptop
[06:04] <omkar_> otherwise i have seen it working fine
[06:04] <dr_willis> miadbahrami:  rsync would be the most common cli tool for the task
[06:04] <Gavilan2> holstein: so... I did the auto remove thing... But still the screen doesn't work... any other ideas?
[06:05] <holstein> Gavilan2: try as another user. try removing any graphics drivers.. try forcing vesa with a custom xorg.conf. reinstall
[06:05] <miadbahrami> dr_willis, when i use rsync show me error
[06:05] <miadbahrami> dr_willis, skipping directory .
[06:05] <neirpyc> Dave114, I'll give it a go next time I feel like dealing with it. Thanks!
[06:05] <miadbahrami> dr_willis, miadbahrami@miadbahrami-Sys:~$ rsync /media/miadbahrami/Share1/miad.bahrami/Software/ /media/miadbahrami/Mahan.Tarashe-Portable/
[06:05] <miadbahrami> skipping directory .
[06:05] <Gavilan2> how do I remove the graphics drivers? how do I force the vesa thing with the xorg.conf?
[06:05] <Dave114> neirpyc: if you're able to boot with nosplash, the next thing to do would probably be to look at your X-server log.  if you "ls /var/log/*X*" do you see log files?  Can't recall what the specific name ubuntu uses is
[06:06] <wachpwnski> Is there a guide for the ubuntu min setup?
[06:06] <holstein> wachpwnski: you mean, minimal?
[06:06] <dr_willis> miadbahrami:  sounds like you are not using all the right options. id check out some rsync exxamples online
[06:06] <Dave114> neirpyc: another thing might be that the nvidia drivers are loaded for your particular kernel.  Have you tried booting any other kernels?  (whatever you were running when you installed the nvidia updates)
[06:08] <truexfan81> do you guys support lightdm?
[06:08] <dr_willis> truexfan81:  its instggalled by default on ubuntu for the last few releases.. so yes
[06:08] <neirpyc> Dave114, unfortunately, that last part was all moonspeak to me. Haha. I'm still pretty new to this stuff.
[06:08] <truexfan81> ok how can i get it to see a compiled fluxbox?
[06:08] <truexfan81> i'm running a minimal install, right now the compiled fluxbox is all thats on here
[06:09] <dr_willis> truexfan81:  you define lightdm sessions via the making a proper ''sesion.desktop' file in  the correct directory
[06:09] <truexfan81> which is?
[06:09] <dr_willis> truexfan81:  i think it MIGHT be /etc/lightdm/somthing
[06:09] <dr_willis> look and see
[06:09] <dr_willis> the lightdm configs mention a series of dirs it looks for
[06:09] <unheeding> I'm trying to set up my facebook account in empathy, but when i click on facebook in online accounts, it opens the dialog in an external browser window.  even if i log in it doesn't get the message
[06:09] <dr_willis> if you have any other sessions installed you can look for their .desktop files
[06:10] <neirpyc> Dave114, I've installed from the latest live cd for 12.04.2 and ran a system update. After that I installed the proprietary drivers for the wifi. Next step was the graphics card, but now I'm running to the black screen/screen turning off part.
[06:10] <Dave114> neirpyc: all righty.  so far you've figured out how to login in text mode and remove nvidia drivers?  Are you executing a command "aptitude ...." or "apt ...." as part of that?
[06:10] <truexfan81> dr_willis: all i see there is lightdm.conf and users.conf
[06:11] <dr_willis> truexfan81:  and looking IN the lightdm.conf would proberly say where it looks. ;)
[06:11] <dr_willis> but it seems to be  /usr/share/xsessions here on my vps
[06:11] <truexfan81> [SeatDefaults]
[06:11] <truexfan81> greeter-session=unity-greeter
[06:11] <truexfan81> user-session=fluxbox
[06:11] <dr_willis> that might be the right place
[06:11] <truexfan81> thats the contents of the file^
[06:12] <dr_willis> truexfan81:  that seems to imply its allready been set to use fluxbox.. so whats the issue?
[06:12] <truexfan81> i don't seem to have an xsessions in /usr/share
[06:12] <dr_willis> do a 'locate fluxbox.desktop;   and see what it finds
[06:12] <truexfan81> dr_willis: when i login it goes right back to lightdm, so its not seeing it
[06:12] <truexfan81> ok will do that
[06:12] <dr_willis> do a 'locate fluxbox.desktop'
[06:12] <truexfan81> no response from it
[06:13] <dr_willis> truexfan81:  or fluxbox is crashing. ;)
[06:13] <neirpyc> Dave114, to remove the nvidia stuff when I can get to a terminal I use "sudo apt-get remove nvidia-current-updates". It runs then I run a "shutdown -r now". Without changing the kernel options in grub, it boots fine again after that using the default nouveau drivers.
[06:13] <truexfan81> philip@netbook:~$ locate fluxbox.desktop
[06:13] <truexfan81> philip@netbook:~$
[06:13] <dr_willis> truexfan81:  do you have any other desktops  or wms installed? you did instgall fluxbox?
[06:13] <omkar_> i think the problem i m facing related to cdrom ejecting is due to usb
[06:13] <truexfan81> dr_willis: i installed the build-deps and compiled fluxbox from source
[06:13] <holstein> omkar_: take it to another machine and confirm
[06:13] <omkar_> when i don't connect anything to the laptop everything is fine but otherwise it keeps on ejecting cdrom
[06:14] <dr_willis> truexfan81:  you could instgall for example 'jwm' and see where it puts its .desktop file at.  its a minimal window manager.. even more minimal then fluxbox
[06:14] <Dave114> neirpyc: what happens if you do a "sudo apt-get install nvidia-current-updates" instead of remove?  Trying to get ubuntu to reconfigure your drivers.  Perhaps the wifi driver setup messed things up
[06:14] <dr_willis> truexfan81:  so you have no sessions at all in the lightdm list?
[06:14] <truexfan81> right
[06:14] <omkar_> u mean reproduce the problem on another machine via connecting mouse & keyboard
[06:14] <omkar_> on the same os?
[06:14] <omkar_> but i don't have another machine currently to reproduce the problem
[06:14] <truexfan81> dr_willis: did that
[06:15] <dr_willis> truexfan81:  id install jwm. and see where its jwm.desktop is at.. and copy it as a example to use for your own custome fluxbox.desktop
[06:15] <truexfan81> locate doesn't find lwm.desktop either
[06:15] <omkar_> [ 1106.371928] hub 1-1:1.0: >unable to enumerate USB device on port 1
[06:15] <omkar_> i get this error too
[06:15] <dr_willis> truexfan81:  done a 'sudo updatedb' lately?
[06:15] <omkar_> in the dmesg
[06:15] <truexfan81> i always forget that command lol
[06:15] <truexfan81> one sec
[06:15] <neirpyc> Dave114, never thought of trying that. Would they mess with each other even though I install the wifi drivers, reboot, then install the graphics?
[06:16] <truexfan81> hmm still nothing
[06:16] <truexfan81> philip@netbook:~$ sudo updatedb
[06:16] <truexfan81> philip@netbook:~$ locate jwm.desktop
[06:16] <truexfan81> philip@netbook:~$
[06:17] <dr_willis> its Jwm.desktop  truexfan81
[06:17] <dr_willis> ;)
[06:17] <dr_willis> and in /usr/share/xsessions/Jwm.desktop here
[06:18] <dr_willis> note the upper case J ;0
[06:18] <truexfan81> yep its there here too now
[06:18] <Dave114> neirpyc: the package manager should hopefully be able to manage both wifi and graphics drivers in theory.  In practice things don't always work out quite as well.  I'm just guessing that perhaps the wifi driver install might have accidentally removed the nvidia module
[06:18] <truexfan81> so far gives a black screen and mouse pointer in Jwm
[06:18] <dr_willis> truexfan81:  thatgs jwm for you....
[06:18] <dr_willis> panel at the bottom? ;) and  a button
[06:19] <truexfan81> does nothing tho, no right-click menu or anything
[06:19] <dr_willis> minimal right clicn menu
[06:19] <dr_willis> thats odd.
[06:19] <neirpyc> Dave114, worth a shot! I'll give it a go now and report back in ~10 minutes after I fix it if it doesn't. =) Thanks again.
[06:19] <dr_willis> jwm is about as falsafe of a mode as one can get
[06:19] <dr_willis> I gotta do a job.. be back in a bit.
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> is there a package that can make an icon for a webpage, like the youtube icon does?
[06:21] <MrRanDom_> ?
[06:21] <Dave114> neirpyc: I'll probably be lurking for a while if that doesn't work.  Have you updated your system recently?  Running 12.04 was it?  Googling I see a Jan 29th nvidia-current-updates that mentions fixing backlight problems in some laptops.
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> would be nice to have more webpage start icons for docky
[06:22] <Dave114> neirpyc: from the text mode login doing "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade" should try to upgrade packages for you.  It might tell you that certain packages are being held back - often kernels don't autoupdate.  If so you might have to separately execut "sudo apt-get install list-of-held-back-packages" after updating
[06:23] <bazhang> Dave114, you mean dist-upgrade
[06:23] <bazhang> !dist-upgrade | Dave114
[06:24] <Agrajag-> g'day, i use focus follows mouse but only raise on click. this used to work fine but a recent update reset configuration back to click to focus. i've changed rg.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences focus-mode 'sloppy' which is what it used to be, but windows still get raised after a few seconds. how can i stop this?
[06:24] <johnflux> Hi all
[06:24] <Dave114> bazhang: what would seem to make sense.  Thanks.  I'm getting stale I guess
[06:24] <Agrajag-> i only want windows to raise when i click - how come this behaviour changed with "sloppy" mode?
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> johnflux:hi mate, whats your question?
[06:25] <johnflux> I get graphics corruption with my i915 intel graphics chipset, but if I pass "nomodeset" when booting, it doesn't boot - it just goes black
[06:25] <Aravoth> anyone have any idea why it is that when I try to add facebook to my online accounts it opens my web browser, which then says simply, "sucess" and my facebook account is not added?
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> johnflux:i had somebody asking same trouble on i915 on his netbook yesterday
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> johnflux:maybe test something lighter like lubuntu?
[06:26] <Aravoth> basically I can't add my facebook account to my online accounts. anyone have any clue on how to fix it?
[06:27] <AcidRain> No such file or directory: apache2: could not open error log file /var/log/apache2/error.log <--- error for starting apache.
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> johnflux:did you clean install 12.10 or upgrade?
[06:27] <AcidRain> is there any other way to fix it? besides obviously creating the file and giving it apache user?
[06:28] <Aravoth> I hve a feeling that web apps is what is causing the error, how do I uninstall the face book webapp
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> AcidRain: maybe #apache can help you too
[06:34] <Gavilan2> well, It's been a pleasure, but ubuntu sux... I'll try my luck on a debian now...
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> Gavillan2: theres always a solution for your trouble
[06:36] <truexfan81> i installed xfce4 from the repos, it crashes back to lightdm too
[06:36] <truexfan81> i think i'll try the other distro i have a iso for
[06:36] <truexfan81> suse
[06:37] <ericw> Hi there, I had a general question. My home folder is cluttered with varius hidden files and folders. Is there a simple way to get applications to store these files elsewhere. Possibly a single subdirectory?
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> ericw: i think every app chooses config files in /home hidden dir by default
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> ericw: you would have to manually choose your specific dir on every single package
[06:39] <prashant_123456> dr_willis, i want resolution 1600x900 and that is on my windows 7 os
[06:39] <ericw> That would be fine. Is there a standard way to do that with a package manager?
[06:39] <prashant_123456> dr_willis, my monitor supports that one
[06:40] <neirpyc> Dave114,  just tried running apt-get install again but it didn't detect anything wrong. I can pull up the Xorg.0.log in nano but I'm not sure what I am looking for.
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> ericw: im note sure theres a trick for that
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> ericw:you want a cleaner look on your /home folder?
[06:41] <neirpyc> Running startx  from the terminal just shuts the screen off like booting without the nosplash stuff
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> neirpyc: did you clean install or upgrade ubuntu
[06:42] <ericw> lotuspsychje: Ok, I don't want a cleaner look for my home folder, I just don't want it as cluttered. I find it hard to find my hidden files/folders.
[06:42] <ryebread761> Can you uninstall the amazon stuff in Ubuntu 12.10?
[06:42] <Gavilan2> lotuspsychje: Yes, my solution is to stop using Ubuntu....
[06:42] <neirpyc> lotuspsychje, clean install of 12.04.2 on a Macbook Pro 7,1.
[06:43] <zanegray>  sudo apt-get remove unity-lens-shopping
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> ericw: you could store your hidden files on seperate dirs maybe like /home/music or whatever
[06:43] <ryebread761> Cool thanks
[06:43] <Aravoth> anyone have a fix for the facebook online account issue yet?
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> neirpyc:maybe clean install a 12.10 and install nvidia-current
[06:43] <zanegray> np
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> Aravoth: re-ask your issue once in a while mate
[06:45] <ericw> lotuspsychje: Always an option, but thats more typing! As you said before, I would have to do it on a package by package basis. Do you have any idea how I would go about this? Any starting point would be fine.
[06:45] <neirpyc> lotuspsychje, can give it a shot. I had worse luck with 12.10 last time I tried. When 12.04.2 came out I thought I would give it another go after I couldn't get WiFi in 12.04.1.
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> neirpyc: what did go wrong on 12.10 clean?
[06:46] <Aravoth> My facebook online account won't work. When i try to set up the online account for it, it opens my browser instead of what it noramlly does
[06:46] <ryebread761> What happens if you log in in the browser?
[06:47] <neirpyc> lotuspsyche, couldn't get WiFi to work after suspend, if at all. Same black screen/screen turning off with nvidia-current.
[06:47] <Dave114> neirpyc: did you try the "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" idea?
[06:47] <ryebread761> WiFi has always had issues after suspend for me
[06:48] <neirpyc> Dave114, yeah, I tried removing the nvidia and reinstalling in the same session. Same deal.
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> ericw:as i can read, its not very recommended to erase or replace .hidden files on the home folder
[06:48] <Dave114> neirpyc: not just removing and reinstalling.  also separately running "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" in case your version of the drivers was out of date
[06:49] <neirpyc> I'll give it a shot now.
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> neirpyc:maybe turn off suspend, cause many machines have suspend bugs
[06:50] <neirpyc> Dave114, what is dist-upgrade? Ran it and it didn't find anything.
[06:50] <lotuspsychje> neirpyc:i would go search for a suspend bug for your specific hardware
[06:51] <neirpyc> lotuspsychje, I'll give 12.10 a shot if I can't get this working in the next few days.
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> neirpyc:maybe check logs at the time you suspend, to see what happens
[06:51] <Dave114> neirpyc: basically it'll update outdated stuff on your machine.  a relatively recent ndivia driver update was saying that it fixed some backlight problems - i.e. you want to make sure your version isn't a problem one
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> ericw: http://askubuntu.com/questions/20127/how-to-remove-configuration-files-completely
[06:53] <neirpyc> Dave114, ran update and dist-upgrade. Got 0's for all the upgrade, newly installed stuff.
[06:53] <ericw> lotuspsychje: Haha, Dangerous and bad: Yes. but I still want to do it. Thanks for the link! I wouldn't mind as much if there weren't so many. Obviously I'm going to .local and .ssh .config.
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> neirpyc: http://askubuntu.com/questions/183485/how-to-make-suspend-and-hibernate-work-on-macbookpro-5-4
[06:55] <nearst> hi ppl
[06:55] <Dave114> lotuspsychje / neirpyc: if I understand correctly neirpyc's problem is more getting graphics going than suspend/hibernate?
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> Dave114: he says he tested both clean installs on 12.04 and 12.10 with nividia-current
[06:57] <neirpyc> Yeah, my issue with 12.10 was both WiFi and graphics. Only graphics on 12.04.2
[06:57] <neirpyc> Working on the graphics problem with 12.04.2 now.
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> neirpyc: this looks like something https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1085448
[06:59] <neirpyc> Suspend works fine for me in 12.04.2.
[07:01] <neirpyc> Its actually the best experience with Ubuntu I've ever had. Which is why I'm trying to knock out this one last issue. If I can get it to use the nvidia stuff correctly, I can stop switching over to OS X to get my work done.
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> cool
[07:02] <neirpyc> It just runs hot and battery drains faster using the nouveau driver.
[07:03] <rurufufuss> how does one change the theme (e.g in this picture, use a dark theme : http://i.imgur.com/glOitl5.png ) in ubuntu 12.10? I tried changing the gtk theme and it seems to have no effect..
[07:13] <booboo> does Urban Terror support online play????
[07:20] <packetfrog> I have installed openssh/enabled port forwarding in my router/and cant connect from my android with connectbot    anything I should check>?
[07:20] <zanegray> yeah. try it one step at a time. can you ssh localhost?
[07:20] <packetfrog> yes
[07:21] <zanegray> can you ssh 192.168.. or whatever the local is?
[07:21] <quick-> how to change the ssh welcome message ? I tried to change /etc/motd but it is being overwritten by something else . Please help
[07:21] <Goranek> Good morning :)
[07:21] <zanegray> ifconfig to find your lan ip
[07:21] <SwedeMike> quick-: /etc/issue perhaps?
[07:21] <packetfrog> Just connected with local ip
[07:22] <packetfrog> Morning Goranek
[07:22] <SwedeMike> quick-: man motd says "/etc/motd.tail" is what you want to change
[07:22] <packetfrog> quick- no dont do that
[07:22] <SwedeMike> quick-: however, on my 12.04 system motd.tail doesn't exist, I only have motd.tail.old
[07:23] <packetfrog> quick- edit /etc/issue.net
[07:23] <packetfrog> and enable it in your ssh config
[07:23] <zanegray> okay, have you tried with a different client... connect bot is pretty good in my experience
[07:23] <packetfrog> connectbot is what i used  have not tried another.
[07:23] <zanegray> can you use connect bot with the local lan?
[07:24] <packetfrog> ?
[07:24] <zanegray> so you tried to connect to the 192.168 address?  Im just making sure youve isolated it down to a port forwarding issue
[07:25] <omkar_> what is the command to check if a package is installed in ubuntu
[07:25] <omkar_> like rpm -qa|grep package_name in rpm based distros
[07:26] <packetfrog> I tried to connect with my outside ip and my ssh servers lan ip
[07:26] <SwedeMike> omkar_: dpkg --list
[07:26] <zanegray> both dont work?
[07:26] <omkar_> thanks SwedeMike
[07:28] <packetfrog> No both dont work :(
[07:28] <packetfrog> sorry im slow, im trying some things ;/
[07:29] <quick-> packetfrog:  SwedeMike  : Still not coming
[07:29] <zanegray> well i would gander that a connect bot setting might be miss configed.  Are you using the default port for sshd?  you can find all the settings in /etc/ssh/sshd_config or something like that
[07:29] <packetfrog> quick- did you enable it in sshd config file?
[07:29] <packetfrog> zanegrey yes I am
[07:30] <packetfrog> hmm
[07:30] <FaheemAM> hello, anyone here ?
[07:30] <packetfrog> from outside ip it says connection refused   its setup for port forwarding though   checked twice
[07:30] <omkar_> i just removed django but its still is being displayed in the dpkg list
[07:31] <zanegray> well its not going to go very far if you can't even get into it from the lan side.  You said trying ssh 192.168.x.x from the server works?
[07:31] <packetfrog> from the server yes
[07:31] <quick-> packetfrog: i dont want a banner . i want a message after successful login the ones like welcome to ubunutu
[07:32] <zanegray> hmm.  and youve specified your username in connect bot (i.e. the one you log into the server with)
[07:32] <FaheemAM> i need help installing ubuntu (or any distro of linux for that matter) on my samsung chronos, i think the UEFI bootloader is causing a problem when i load ubuntu via wubi or partitioning the harddrive, i"ve tried almost all methods of booting linux, via usb and cd, it seems to be a samsung firmware issue of some sort embedded in the UEFI bootloader, was wondering if there was a fix of some sort
[07:32] <FaheemAM> available or if anyone has encountred and solved this problem before?
[07:32] <packetfrog> Yes.  wierd   just tried on "server" to connect via outside ip and its refused.
[07:32] <packetfrog> so it has to be my router right?
[07:32] <bazhang> !uefi | FaheemAM
[07:33] <zanegray> well yes, i would still be concerned why connect bot is not working on lan side
[07:33] <zanegray> are you running something nice like ddwrt?
[07:33] <FaheemAM> thanks bazhang, another issue i seem to be having is the bootloader doesnt detect gparted or any partitioning 3rd party software so i can repartition my C drive?
[07:33] <packetfrog> just a wgr614  netgear
[07:34] <packetfrog> going to check a howto and makesure i did it right
[07:34] <zanegray> the general idea should be to specify the lan side ip to recieve connections ( should be static sometime in the future ), the port numer (22 for ssh) and to allow tcp from anywhere
[07:36] <zanegray> also just a quick check... make sure you don't have firewalld or something like that running.  Or configure it to allow you through.
[07:38] <FaheemAM> i cant seem to resize my C: drive via any 3rd party partition software under the UEFI bootloader, does anyone have a solution for that ?? lol
[07:39] <FaheemAM> currently using windows to do so, thereafter installing Linux on the new partition?
[07:39] <ivan__> hi
[07:40] <FaheemAM> have tried: Gparted, Paragon Partiton, etc nothing wants to resize the harddrive, starts process but screen blanks out and goes straight to booting windows
[07:40] <FaheemAM> will i be at risk to brick my latpop, or is the UEFI/EFI on my bootloader the cause?4
[07:40] <zanegray> you said you were using what hardware?  a samsung chromebook?
[07:40] <FaheemAM> a samsung chronos 7
[07:41] <FaheemAM> i"ve read extensively on the forums that bricking is common
[07:41] <FaheemAM> due to samsung loading their own crappy firmware into the UEFI bootlader
[07:41] <packetfrog> ol well  its all setup right      another day then! :)
[07:41] <packetfrog> thnks for the help!
[07:41] <packetfrog> night
[07:41] <zanegray> well yeah, it was a firmware issue actually and from what ive heard its not resolved yet
[07:41] <FaheemAM> I'm still a newbie so my thinking may be wrong, but simply said, i'read no solution for the problem zanegray
[07:41] <zanegray> @packetfrong
[07:41] <packetfrog> ?
[07:41] <packetfrog> with my router?
[07:41] <zanegray> @packetfrog... good luck and sorry about the issues
[07:42] <packetfrog> ill try and use a linksys1000n or wrtg54 tomorrow.
[07:42] <packetfrog> atleast that will isolate the issue.
[07:42] <zanegray> i would emphasize getting logged in on the lan side first
[07:42] <wiggmpk> FaheemAM: how bout switching to Legacy BIOS instead of UEFI?
[07:42] <zanegray> you dont have another client to try?
[07:43] <zanegray> @FaheemAM thatll avoid the issue entirely from what ive heard since its just their uefi implemenation
[07:43] <packetfrog> ill download one when i lay down and try
[07:43] <FaheemAM> wiggmpk well their is a boot legacy enabled but since windows was installed under EFI it doesnt want to let me partiton or install linux under legacy @ wiggmpk
[07:43] <zanegray> @packetfrog  look up putty if you have a windows box :)
[07:43] <wiggmpk> FaheemAM: and you plan on keeping WIndows installed?
[07:44] <FaheemAM> zanegray from using the laptop ios setting and disabling efi it immeditely damaged my bootloader on my laptop, i had to revert back to use windows
[07:44] <wiggmpk> i jumped into the conversation like 2mins ago so excuse me if its been said already
[07:44] <FaheemAM> well wiggmpk i dont mind dumpong windows, but the fact is i got Ubutnu installed under wubi ONLY so far with this issue
[07:44] <chaosito714> ?
[07:44] <FaheemAM> i cant even boot the liveUSB or liveCD
[07:44] <FaheemAM> dumping*
[07:44] <zanegray> so have they implemented secure boot on that thing?  would that be the issue?
[07:45] <wiggmpk> FaheemAM: have you taking a look on the Ubuntu help pages about installing Ubuntu under UEFI/EFI?
[07:45] <bcbc2> FaheemAM: wubi doesn't work on UEFI. You need the 64bit ISO to install it.
[07:45] <FaheemAM> i've checked the guide and installed tried booting it previously, as said before, the samsung refuses to identify either the USB or CD as bootable wiggmpk
[07:45] <FaheemAM> ok lets leave the ubuntu problem for a sec
[07:45] <FaheemAM> lets reveryt back to partitioning
[07:46] <FaheemAM> can i repartiton my harddrive with a 3rd party software?
[07:46] <FaheemAM> under UEFI and secure boot?
[07:46] <neirpyc> Bleh, just tried a bunch of stuff with nomodeset and nvidia-xconfig, still no luck.
[07:46] <zanegray> Well uefi should not affect it but with secure boot.. thats not something i would be sure about.
[07:46] <zanegray> does your bios mention anything about secure boot?
[07:47] <FaheemAM> let me boot up and see
[07:47] <FaheemAM> brb
[07:47] <FaheemAM> :)
[07:47] <FaheemAM> lol
[07:47] <FloodBot1> FaheemAM: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:47] <wiggmpk> i thought UEFI infact was secure boot?
[07:47] <fried> I tried to recover some files. I ended up sending them to my drive with ubuntu on it. I filled that drive so there is no more room. I think this is the reason I can not log into my ubuntu.
[07:47] <zanegray> nope.  uefi is just a different kind of bios implemenation and one of its features is secure boot.
[07:48] <zanegray> Since you mostly find them hand-in-hand they are kinda easy to mix up :)
[07:48] <wiggmpk> zanegray: so then they are related
[07:48] <wiggmpk> guess I could of worded that better
[07:48] <packetfr0g> Zanegrey.  Good call!! Thanks!   Its just connect bot being stupid.
[07:48] <zanegray> yes completely related.  you cannot have secureboot without uefi
[07:48] <fried> Sometimes it gives a serious of weird messages, often I get to a log in menu, and when I try to log in, it says something is wrong with my gnome power managing  setup, or some such thing
[07:48] <zanegray> @packetfr0g  awesome!!
[07:49] <wiggmpk> dunno what all this fuss is about UEFI *sigh*
[07:49] <zanegray> uefi is great, it really is.  fast boot times and more featured.  the issue is that ms is pushing secure boot along with it, which in its self is not a bad idea...
[07:49] <fried> I fortunately had a ubuntu installation on this flash drive, but its not letting me even see the recovered files, short of actually letting me delete them so that I might try regularly getting on
[07:50] <fried> Is anyone able to help please?
[07:50] <zanegray> @fried please explain your issue again
[07:50] <fried> I just did
[07:50] <fried> Ok I will cut and past what I already said
[07:50] <wiggmpk> zanegray: honestly I dont see the boot time increase.. maybe seconds if that.. more practical for rapid deployment than for every day consumers
[07:51] <fried> I tried to recover some files. I ended up sending them to my drive with ubuntu on it. I filled that drive so there is no more room. I think this is the reason I can not log into my ubuntu.
[07:51] <fried> Sometimes it gives a serious of weird messages, often I get to a log in menu, and when I try to log in, it says something is wrong with my gnome power managing  setup, or some such thing
[07:51] <fried> I fortunately had a ubuntu installation on this flash drive, but its not letting me even see the recovered files, short of actually letting me delete them so that I might try regularly getting on
[07:51] <fried> BTW, how do I disable messages of people logging on and off with this IRC webclient?
[07:52] <fried> It is making it much harder to follow what people are saying with them filling the screen
[07:52] <zanegray> okay so you have ubuntu on a flash drive and then copied extra stuff on it and now it wont log you in?
[07:52] <wiggmpk> fried: yeah, someone should tell that to the empathy dev's too
[07:52] <fried> No
[07:52] <zanegray> use pidgin, far better
[07:53] <zanegray> @fried sry im just having a hard time following your issue
[07:53] <fried> I had ubuntu on a regular hard drive, I tried to recover files to that hard drive, now that ubuntu on the HDD won't load
[07:53] <IvelfanFr> Hello
[07:53] <FaheemAM> hi zanegray and wiggmpk
[07:53] <fried> And the ubuntu from the flash drive, can't see or delete the files filling the HDD
[07:53] <wiggmpk> zanegray: i used to, but I like the integration of empathy over pidgin
[07:53] <zanegray> @fried not sure what would be going on
[07:53] <FaheemAM> my settings on bios are AHCI mode enabled, EDB Enabled, UEFI Boot disabled, yet i see nothin abt Secure Boot @ wiggmpk and zanegray
[07:54] <fried> wiggmpk: You mean there is no way to disable these messages of people logging on and off with this IRC web client?
[07:54] <wiggmpk> FaheemAM: if UEFI is disbaled your using "legacy" mode
[07:54] <wiggmpk> fried: no idea.. dont use a webclient for IRC
[07:54] <Vivekananda> hey everyone. Two issues. First is there any way of getting just 2d workspaces in lubuntu? The second how do I get xubuntu on top of an lubuntu
[07:54] <zanegray> @FaheemAM okay so ahci mode is good, edb... not sure what that is, uefi disabled means your using legacy like you said
[07:55] <FaheemAM> yes wiggmpk, i understnd that, but it still doesnt seem to boot any LiveUsb or CD, nor does it run any partitioning software
[07:55] <fried> wiggmpk: then what did you mean with that comment about empath dev?
[07:55] <cfhowlett> Vivekananda, 2nd question first: sudo apt-get install xfce4 will give you that interface but not the apps.
[07:55] <FaheemAM> zanegray EDB from descritpiton referes to the HDD protecting itself from malware of some sort :?
[07:55] <wiggmpk> fried: because if you use empathy, you cant hide the join/part messages, hence it being annoying
[07:55] <zanegray> @FaheemAM hmmmm that sounds suspicous... doesnt it?
[07:55] <FaheemAM> zanegray in my mind it means samsung loaded some crappy firmware, funny enuf when i disabled EDB it almost crashed my windows
[07:56] <fried> BRB, restarting firefox
[07:56] <FaheemAM> zanegray after enabling it again it booted it fine
[07:56] <Vivekananda> cfhowlett: Do I understand correct that if I install apps on lubuntu I will have them on xubuntu too.
[07:56] <FaheemAM> zanegray initially i also thought the EDB refered to something concering the Secure boot
[07:56] <Vivekananda> and no difference ?
[07:56] <fried> How do you minimize a window with firefox 4 and ubuntu 11.04?
[07:56] <Vivekananda> Also can anyone help me trouble shoot my video card woes ?
[07:57] <fried> dang buttons I count on using are nowhere to be found
[07:57] <wiggmpk> FaheemAM: intel processor?
[07:57] <cfhowlett> Vivekananda, xfce4 is the desktop environment ... look and feel.  The actual apps would be sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[07:57] <zanegray> faheem, jeez yeah I think that would be the first thing I would start looking into.  Unfortunately I don't know a whole lot about how secureboot / edb works other than you should be able to 1) disable it and just load whatever onto it 2) load up a *very* recent bootloader that is signed by a valid key
[07:57] <FaheemAM> yes wiggmpk intel processor
[07:58] <wiggmpk> FaheemAM: Execute Disable Bit
[07:58] <wiggmpk> probably
[07:58] <zanegray> which would afford the question which ubuntu version are you using?
[07:58] <FaheemAM> well zanegray i first used 12.04 it worked fine via WUBI
[07:58] <Vivekananda> cfhowlett: I am guessing what you meant is " the actual apps would be sudo apt-get install App"
[07:58] <FaheemAM> it then crashed after the 3rd use zanegray
[07:59] <FaheemAM> i then tried the Secure remix bazhang pointed me to zanegray
[07:59] <zanegray> Execute Disable bit or the NX bit is nothing related to secureboot and is on all computing devices nowadays... keep that enabled
[07:59] <cfhowlett> Vivekananda, yes.  or to get the entire xubuntu meta-package, apt-install xubuntu-desktop
[07:59] <FaheemAM> no results as it doesnt want to see the usb drive at all
[07:59] <zanegray> okay so i would go under the assumption that its not secure boot related....
[08:00] <FaheemAM> yes zanegray
[08:00] <zanegray> which doesn't help you out very much lol
[08:00] <fried> with ubuntu 11.04, how do i find system messages in the background?
[08:00] <FaheemAM> acutally I assume (from what i've been reading) that its some firmware loaded into the samsung bootloader
[08:00] <fried> this unity thing is very confusing
[08:00] <FaheemAM> zanegray its a common problem if googled
[08:00] <FaheemAM> last fucking samsung laptop i buy :/
[08:00] <zanegray> specific to samsung?
[08:01] <wiggmpk> language mate,
[08:01] <FaheemAM> zanegray yes, apparently it relates to the UEFI and is a widespread issue with any OS trying to be loaded
[08:01] <FaheemAM> sorry wiggmpk but its like a month into this issue lol
[08:01] <fried> with ubuntu 11.04, how do i find system messages in the background?
[08:01] <wiggmpk> FaheemAM: i know, it's frustrating
[08:01] <zanegray> quick question... do you know if you have the most recent bios/uefi firmware?
[08:02] <cfhowlett> fried, 11.04 is end of life.  urge you to upgrade soonest as support has ended
[08:02] <FaheemAM> zanegray i havent updated my bios since purchase, i;ve read that samsung has alot of bugs in the new version, would u advise i do so?
[08:02] <FaheemAM> although my information could be flawed as it is otyher users experience lol
[08:02] <fried> cfhowlett: Never mind that now, I am in a emergancy situation, running off a flash drive because my HDD is super messed up
[08:02] <zanegray> well i looked on their page and it says they released on in Aug 16, 2011
[08:03] <zanegray> bought before or after?
[08:03] <fried> cfhowlett: so help me to use unity please
[08:03] <FaheemAM> bought about 3 months ago zanegray but could be old stock
[08:03] <fried> cfhowlett: anyway, I doubt the setup for unity has changed that much since 11.04
[08:03] <FaheemAM> let me go update the bios or see if it can be updated, worst that can happen is i brick it :(
[08:03] <zanegray> yeah its a possiblity.. its a quick easy check to see what bios version you have... the new one is 1.0.0.2
[08:04] <zanegray> if you could call it new :P
[08:04] <cfhowlett> fried, please ask specifics in this channel.  I'm on xubuntu so no help with unity from me.  sorry
[08:04] <Vivekananda> cfhowlett: Only xfce can also be used inside lubuntu isnt it ? if I get the entire xubuntu-desktop then it can be a standalone right ?
[08:04] <FaheemAM> how do i see what bios i currently have zanegray ?
[08:05] <Vivekananda> FaheemAM: Cant you see that during the boot up ?
[08:05] <zanegray> ull have to boot into bios.  it should be right on the main page and possibly obfusicated... with no labels
[08:05] <FaheemAM> lol..... let me try brb :/
[08:05] <cfhowlett> Vivekananda, nope. ubuntus can run pretty much any linux desktop environment.  lubuntu's default DE is lxde, xubuntu's , xfce4
[08:05] <Vivekananda> I mean boot into .. ok zanegray
[08:05] <zanegray> gl
[08:05] <FaheemAM> thanks zanegray, ur a real help !
[08:05] <fried> I installed chatzilla, the window came up for rebooting firefox, I minimized that window for a moment, now how do I find that minimized system window asking if I wanted to reboot firefox now?
[08:05] <zanegray> np
[08:06] <fried> Noone knows?
[08:06] <Vivekananda> so lxde is a DE . What then is lubuntu ( just trying to get better political correctness I guess) Is it the distro ?
[08:06] <aeon-ltd> yes
[08:07] <gary> @seek life of pi
[08:07] <Vivekananda> aeon-ltd: was that for me ?
[08:07] <fried> Anyone?
[08:07] <cfhowlett> Vivekananda, lubuntu IS the distro.  and you can use xfce4 with it if you want.  You could even install the entire xubuntu package if you wnated .. but why?
[08:07] <aeon-ltd> Vivekananda: yes
[08:07] <fried> I guess everyone hates unity...
[08:07] <wiggmpk> fried have you tried alt+tab?
[08:07] <cfhowlett> !details|fried, details matter.
[08:08] <fried> wiggmpk: tried that, didn't find it, I guess I need to do it manually
[08:08] <fried> cfhowlett: I did
[08:08] <fried> twice even
[08:09] <fried> brb, these login/out messages are driving me bonkers
[08:09] <Vivekananda> cfhowlett: I have lubuntu up and running and I dont see any huge need but some things I have gotten used to are not here on lxde. eg worspaces in rows and columns for faster swtiching ( as an aside can kupfer do this ? ) . And I need a lightweight distro so thought of getting xubuntu too along with L
[08:09] <zanegray> @fried... use pidgeon its pretty rock solid
[08:10] <cfhowlett> Vivekananda, easy enough to try it out.  If you decide it's not for you, apt--get purge xubuntu-desktop should reset you to stock lubuntu
[08:11] <fried0> OK back
[08:11] <FaheemAM> hi zanegray
[08:11] <Vivekananda> I have tried it earlier and frankly I like the speed of lubuntu but there are some compromises as there would be . I am hoping to live with some and to find workarounds for some
[08:11] <zanegray> hey whats up?
[08:11] <Vivekananda> I would like to be able to do fast switching of worspaces though
[08:11] <FaheemAM> my bios version is not 1.0.0.2 it only says P00AAS
[08:11] <FaheemAM> my bios version is not 1.0.0.2 it only says P00AAS @ zanegray
[08:11] <zanegray> hmmm strange.
[08:11] <FaheemAM> ... let me do some googling
[08:12] <FaheemAM> i probalby will just try n upgrade lol
[08:12] <fried0> Ok, I will explain my situation for the third time. It will take several posts
[08:13] <FaheemAM> i run windows 8 (preinstalled) zanegray btw :/
[08:13] <cfhowlett> fried0, suggest you put all the details in a .txt text file and paste it.  that way people don't have to track through multiple threads
[08:13] <fried0> Running ubuntu off a HDD, I tried to recover files to the same partition the OS was on. This completely filled that partition. Shortly after navigator crashed. I restarted. Now I can not load that ubuntu on the HDD
[08:13] <FaheemAM> zanegray i fear windows 7 is the acutual reason im stuffed, yet i dnw how lol
[08:13] <fried0> cfhowlett: Good idea, what is that website for that again please?
[08:14] <cfhowlett> !paste|fried0,
[08:14] <wo0t> hello ppl
[08:14] <zanegray> thats a weird bios version
[08:14] <zanegray> @FaheemAM just to get the record straight.. you have windows on their right now with it on the entire drive?
[08:14] <zanegray> can you still get into windows?
[08:14] <cfhowlett> !who
[08:14] <FaheemAM> ..... zanegray im in windows
[08:14] <cfhowlett> wo0t, greetings
[08:14] <FaheemAM> zanegray what i neglected to mention
[08:14] <Vivekananda> cfhowlett: anything for me ?
[08:15] <FaheemAM> zanegray is that i have 2 harddrives a 8GB SSD and a 1TB HDD, now i think that the 8GB is used to store the OS
[08:15] <FaheemAM> zanegray in doing so samsung have somehow locked my usage to this 8GB SSD and are using it to speed boot time....
[08:15] <zanegray> okay so it came preinstalled with windows 8, you put 7 on there?
[08:15] <FaheemAM> its still on windows 8 zanegray
[08:15] <cfhowlett> Vivekananda, based on what you said, I'd suggest you install xfce4 ... If you like that then load the full xubuntu-desktop.  If tha't
[08:15] <FaheemAM> zanegray should i revert back to windows 7??
[08:15] <cfhowlett> Vivekananda, if xubuntu works out better for you, install that instead of lubuntu
[08:16] <zanegray> okay so the 8 gb ssd is definitely not big enough to hold all of windows.  they have it set up in a technique called ssd caching.
[08:16] <PadNet_201> ? ssd caching?
[08:16] <FaheemAM> yes zanegray i think thats thwe issue
[08:16] <FaheemAM> brb]
[08:16] <zanegray> But, there are several different implementations for ssd caching with Intel Smart response being the most common
[08:17] <wiggmpk> kinda like superfetch zanegray?
[08:17] <zanegray> @wiggmpk well sorta.  I havent heard that term for a long time but thats mostly a windows thing to do some extra paging stuff i think
[08:18] <l057c0d3r> whats good..  so question....  does ubuntu/unity use the gnome online accounts to connect to facebook through empathy..  or does it use the ubuntu one..
[08:18] <wiggmpk> zanegray: Smart Responce Technology? I never heard of SSD caching before so I'm curious
[08:18] <zanegray> this is more along the lines of caching where ssd acts as a page cache.  It really depends on the implementation
[08:18] <zanegray> Okay so heres the breakdown
[08:18] <l057c0d3r> because im running gnome3 and here about two days ago something with facebook and the gnome online account manager broke.
[08:19] <ax562> Who's runnning ubuntu touch?
[08:19] <Vision-> redhat help ?
[08:19] <zanegray> The hard drive is read by pages at a time and the OS loads these into main memory
[08:19] <cfhowlett> !tablet|ax562,
[08:19] <l057c0d3r> so i can no longer add facebook accounts.. when i try to add an account instead of opening in the online account manager it opens in my browser..  so account is never added
[08:19] <Vivekananda> cfhowlett: thanks and I will
[08:19] <cfhowlett> Vision-, redhat?  wrong channel for that.  sorry
[08:20] <Vision-> ok thxn
[08:20] <zanegray> the issue is that read and writes from disk are expensive so ssd caching is a way to put an intermediate level between the hard drive and main memory so that the OS can find recently used pages in the cache without having to go to the disk to read
[08:20] <l057c0d3r> basicly if ubuntu/unity did not use it i was going to reinstall with ubuntu/unity..  add my account.. and then install gnome
[08:20] <ax562> @cf not tablet phone lmao
[08:21] <guest-1G9P13> ok, I am wondering, on ubuntu,what is better for a computer ip, something such that starts with 10. or 192. ?
[08:21] <FaheemAM> zanegray sorry had a customer
[08:21] <wo0t> 10. is class A, 192 is class C
[08:21] <zanegray> @FaheemAm no worries... I think i gotta hit the sack here soon
[08:21] <l057c0d3r> guest-1G9P13: well 192 would be the ip given by the router..  where 92 - 98 ext are your actual internet ip
[08:21] <zanegray> about 1:30 in the morning here
[08:21] <zanegray> lol
[08:21] <FaheemAM> zanegray thanks for the help, i'll figure it out
[08:22] <FaheemAM> zanegray ubuntu, is great for the communtiy, u prove it :P
[08:22] <guest-1G9P13> would it be ok if I CHANGED IT TO a static with a class a?
[08:22] <ax562> @woot, isn't 10. more for vpn and 192 for local networks?
[08:22] <zanegray> good luck and if i were you I would make sure to backup everything. and then try some more drastic measures.
[08:22] <wiggmpk> guest-1G9P13: typically you want to use a Class C address for your local network
[08:22] <guest-1G9P13> but can it be done?
[08:23] <guest-1G9P13> and work
[08:23] <zanegray> such as upgrading that bios
[08:23] <l057c0d3r> so any idea.... oh which online account manager is used by empathy on unity?
[08:23] <zanegray> but good luck
[08:23] <wiggmpk> guest-1G9P13: can what be done?
[08:23] <guest-1G9P13> use a class A ip on a home network for computer
[08:23] <guest-1G9P13> on ubuntu
[08:23] <ax562> @guest believe so..believe it's more of a format issue
[08:23] <fried0> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5557447/
[08:24] <wiggmpk> guest-1G9P13: first, the OS doesnt matter.. but to answer your question, yes it will work but its not typical. Netgear routers (modern ones) will default to a class A address if the "typical" class c address range is being used
[08:24] <fried0> Your help would be greatly appreciated
[08:25] <guest-1G9P13> just found a bug in unity
[08:26] <cfhowlett> !bug|guest-1G9P13,
[08:26] <ax562> what was that ubuntu discussion room again?
[08:26] <ax562> @cfhowlett?
[08:26] <fried0> It is sad that ubuntu paste bin lacks word wrap
[08:26] <cfhowlett> !ot|ax562,
[08:27] <ax562> thanks
[08:27] <helmut_> hi
[08:27] <dr_willis> fried0: that wuld be bad  to wrap code..
[08:27] <guest-1G9P13> what would be a recomended class A ip for a computer?
[08:27] <guest-1G9P13> 10. xxx.xxx etc
[08:27] <cfhowlett> fried0, gotta wrap before you paste.  Is formatting/installing again an option?
[08:28] <fried0> dr_willis: Well there is a option to save for code, but I choose plain text, so it should word wrap
[08:28] <fried0> dr_willis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5557447/
[08:28] <wiggmpk> guest-1G9P13: why do want to use a Class A address? are you connected to a router?
[08:28] <guest-1G9P13> yes..,
[08:28] <guest-1G9P13> but I wan't to use a static class a
[08:29] <wiggmpk> guest-1G9P13: what brand router?
[08:29] <guest-1G9P13> d-link
[08:29] <guest-1G9P13> but I use dd-wrt
[08:29] <guest-1G9P13> firmware
[08:29] <wiggmpk> guest-1G9P13: you would have to change the entire network to use Class A ranges otherwise your gonna have a lonely computer on your network
[08:29] <fried0> cfhowlett:  there is a screen poping up asking I want to installed 11.10. And I can install 11.4 from the flash drive. Bu  I want to preserve bookmarks etc from the previous install.  I would also have to install on a new partition since the old one is out of space
[08:30] <guest-1G9P13> wiggmpk would that be bad
[08:30] <cfhowlett> fried0, thinking ...
[08:30] <wiggmpk> guest-1G9P13: if you want to get out to the internet, probably
[08:31] <cfhowlett> fried0, while booted from the USB, you can see your /home files on the HDD, yes?
[08:31] <nearst> hi ppls
[08:31] <fried0> cfhowlett: some of them I think
[08:31] <fried0> double checking
[08:31] <guest-1G9P13> wiggmpk so it won't work with the router there for no internet?
[08:32] <l057c0d3r> dr_willis: do you know if there are two online account managers in ubunt/unity  or if empathy uses the ubuntu/unity online account manager for accounts?
[08:32] <fried0> cfhowlett: I can see files there, just not all of them
[08:32] <wiggmpk> guest-1G9P13: if your router is configured to hand out IP address's via DHCP on a different network segment, then NAT wont work for your class a address.. because it would be on an entirely different network segment
[08:33] <cfhowlett> fried0, priority: save your /home files.  Lost files are (probably) lost.  Up to you how much time/effort you want to expend trying to get them back.
[08:33] <fried0> cfhowlett: I can not seem to see the files I recovered that are filling the space I need
[08:33] <cfhowlett> fried0, copy what you can see to a /usb
[08:33] <penguinman> ok, setting up samba shares is a lot easier than I remember it being these days...
[08:33] <guest-1G9P13> than could I have the DHCP of the router set to use class A?
[08:33] <wiggmpk> guest-1G9P13: do you have ANY practical purpose to use a Class A address? they are usually reserved for very large networks
[08:34] <fried0> cfhowlett: I got video files here etc.  You are suggesting no small thing. How about helping me delete the files so that I can try logging into my current HDD ubuntu?
[08:34] <cfhowlett> fried0, or ever burn them to a CD.  Then install a supported version of ubuntu.  I suggest you set up a dedicated /home partition.  Keeps /home data from getting wiped on reinstall
[08:34] <Vivekananda> cfhowlett: can I say ( even vaguely that ) xubuntu 12.04 would be still faster ( less resource hungry) than lucid gnome ( for same apps on both ) .  I just want to get a very rough idea
[08:34] <guest-1G9P13> Wouldn't it be moer secure?
[08:34] <cfhowlett> fried0, easy enough.  sudo rm -r (file to be deleted name)
[08:35] <wiggmpk> guest-1G9P13: no
[08:35] <fried0> cfhowlett: Please don't give up on recovering my current installation before you have even tried
[08:35] <cfhowlett> Vivekananda, no question that xfce is less hungry than gnmoe
[08:35] <guest-1G9P13> due to persons would not think it would be class A
[08:35] <wiggmpk> guest-1G9P13: it's no more secure then any other local ip range
[08:35] <fried0> cfhowlett: and how do I make said files visible? and how can I sudo outside of the installation?
[08:36] <cfhowlett> fried0, wait 1
[08:36] <Vivekananda> cfhowlett: I am comparing xfce 12 with gnome 10 ( if you noticed already!! I hope )
[08:36] <wiggmpk> guest-1G9P13: the only real benefit i can think of is millions of IP's vs hundreds of IP's
[08:38] <guest-1G9P13> ok.., than I won't
[08:38] <fried0> cfhowlett: Hmm, found the files, some of them at least I guess they weren't hidden, but  I am still stuck with out to sudo/delete files outside of the HDD OS
[08:39] <guest-1G9P13> on my Start ip address it says 192.168.1.100 i can change the last 4, what would be the pros of doing that?
[08:39] <fried0> also, I can't figure out how to open a terminal in unity
[08:40] <cfhowlett> fried0, are your /home in a dedicated parition?
[08:40] <cfhowlett> *partition*
[08:40] <wiggmpk> guest-1G9P13: the last 4?
[08:40] <guest-1G9P13> ya
[08:40] <wiggmpk> you mean 3
[08:40] <fried0> cfhowlett: I don't think so, I think it is on the same as the OS
[08:40] <guest-1G9P13> yes sorry
[08:40] <cfhowlett> fried0, and this is an ubuntu only box?
[08:40] <cfhowlett> not dual boot
[08:40] <fried0> cfhowlett: correct
[08:41] <fried0> cfhowlett: though I do have windows on a disk and could try to set up a duelboot
[08:41] <cfhowlett> fried0, ok, let's not just yet ...
[08:41] <wiggmpk> guest-1G9P13: convenience i suppose..
[08:41] <guest-1G9P13> ok
[08:42] <cfhowlett> fried0, can you copy those files to a safe place?  CD/USB???
[08:42] <guest-1G9P13> does the Subnet Mask have to stay the same or can I change it?
[08:42] <wiggmpk> guest-1G9P13: for instance.. my network is 172.20.192.1/28
[08:42] <guest-1G9P13> ah ok
[08:43] <genteor> hi guys! i cannot enter BIOS on a IdeaPad Z560...is there any solution?
[08:43] <guest-1G9P13> 172?
[08:43] <wiggmpk> guest-1G9P13: 255.255.255.240 only allows 13 IP's limiting the amount of computers able to connect
[08:43] <guest-1G9P13> how would I limit it to 4?
[08:43] <wiggmpk> guest-1G9P13: so my router is 172.20.192.1 and the ip range starts at .2 and ends at .14
[08:44] <wiggmpk> guest-1G9P13: ummm.. IIRC your subnet would need to be 255.255.255.252 (I think)
[08:44] <aeon-ltd> genteor: that's not ubuntu related
[08:45] <lifebird64> genteor: yeah... contact support.lenovo.com (us Ubuntu folks won't have a clue).
[08:45] <wiggmpk> guest-1G9P13: actually that might only allow 2 address's
[08:45] <fried0> cfhowlett: I could make a new partition,  (not all my HDD is claimed by one) and put them onto there. But that would be complicated as that which I need to preserve are in different locations, some of which are unknown. I might also forget some data I wish to preserve.
[08:46] <fried0> cfhowlett: Are you still working on a way to delete those files outside of the OS?
[08:46] <cfhowlett> fried0, were it me and I was data loss averse, I would first back up the most critical stuff some way somehow ...
[08:46] <wiggmpk> guest-1G9P13: not sure if you can get just 4.. so 255.255.255.248 will give you 6 address's.. 1 for the router and 5 to serve
[08:46] <guest-1G9P13>  255.255.252.0 is for 4 class c addresses
[08:46] <cfhowlett> fried0, saving a system as you've described is beyond my skills. /
[08:47] <fried0> cfhowlett: The solution to all of this might simply be to delete the files cramming the system HDD, but how can I do that?
[08:47] <wiggmpk> guest-1G9P13: well technically 3, cause your router needs 1, so you'll have 3 to hand out
[08:47] <fried0> i mean partition
[08:48] <cfhowlett> fried0, if you know which files are system files and which are not, you could rm the files you no wonder need
[08:48] <guest-1G9P13> ok
[08:48] <fried0> cfhowlett: I know what files I wish to delete, and I know they are not system files, but how can I "rm" them?
[08:49] <Vivekananda> cfhowlett: I want to get a stable system and create a back up for root so that I can restore it if something corrupts. I want to make it so that even when I format the drive the backup , when restored gives me the entire OS as it is now. Possible ?
[08:49] <guest-1G9P13> how many does the standard 255.255.255.0 offer?
[08:49] <cfhowlett> fried0, so a system restore like windows does.  Yes, possible but I've never done it...
[08:50] <aeon-ltd> Vivekananda: second sentence didn't make sense
[08:50] <wiggmpk> guest-1G9P13: 255
[08:50] <cfhowlett> Vivekananda, I understand that the new Dell's have that option built in
[08:50] <fried0> cfhowlett:  You lost me, how can I delete these files?
[08:50] <cfhowlett> fried0, fire up a terminal and a file browser
[08:51] <fried0> cfhowlett: I mentioned before that I don't know how under unity
[08:52] <cfhowlett> fried0, open the dash and type terminal ... doesn't the super (windows) key bring up dash??
[08:52] <cfhowlett> !recovery
[08:52] <cfhowlett> !recovery|fried0,
[08:52] <fried0> cfhowlett: OK got a terminal window. But my issue is not directly recovery, but deleting files outside of the OS
[08:53] <Vivekananda> aeon-ltd: I meant that I want to create not just a file / folder back up but a back up the OS so it can be restored or moved to other machines and can work like an OS without having to Install an OS
[08:54] <fried0> cfhowlett: I doubt my USB OS can rescue the broken system when the issue is lack of room on the partition
[08:54] <aeon-ltd> Vivekananda: your talking about a disk image
[08:54] <aeon-ltd> *you're
[08:54] <cfhowlett> fried0, try to recover your system with that ubottu link --- safer to do that prior to point and shoot deletions
[08:54] <fried0> cfhowlett: The files I wish to delete are absolutely safe to do so, I just need to know how to do so!
[08:54] <aeon-ltd> Vivekananda: remastersys or clonezilla can do something like that, but depending on your system they can be small or large
[08:55] <cfhowlett> fried0, OK to get  a terminal see   http://complete-concrete-concise.com/ubuntu-2/ubuntu-11-10-how-to-get-a-command-line-shell-or-terminal
[08:55] <fried0> cfhowlett: I said I got a terminal window
[08:55] <l057c0d3r> so...  anyone else having problems adding facebook accounts to empathy?
[08:56] <Milos__> hi, i have some help question. I already have w7 installed on my notebook , and as i have a lot of space (1TB hdd) decided to install and ubuntu 12.10 in order for dual boot. While choosing install option i choosed third one, cause first was restarting notebook ,and second didnt work for me. I installed Ubuntu on cleared partition ext4, and when installation finished i clicked restart as it wanted. Then
[08:56] <Milos__> i couldnt boot into Ubuntu, after some search i decided to install easyBCD, and I managed to add Ubuntu in booting option. Now on boot, i have to choose between w7 and ubuntu, and when i selecet ubuntu , i get grub cmd. I type boot, but it says "Kernel have to be loaded before boot". Please Help me , I donk know what to do now.
[08:56] <fried0> cfhowlett: Now what?
[08:56] <cfhowlett> fried0, sudo rm (drag and drop file name here from the explorer windows)
[08:56] <wiggmpk> l057c0d3r: i had no issues adding mine
[08:56] <SolarisBoy> lol
[08:56] <l057c0d3r> wiggmpk: how long ago was it added
[08:56] <wiggmpk> l057c0d3r: like a week, maybe 2
[08:56] <l057c0d3r> i've added on on this computer in the past and it worked
[08:56] <l057c0d3r> and i did it a week ago
[08:57] <Vivekananda> aeon-ltd: does dd do something similar ?
[08:57] <pishkur> anyone has any idea, when i log into ubuntu (with login disabled), i get a popup that my login keyring didn't get unlocked and that i should enter my password?
[08:57] <l057c0d3r> but then my brother went to add one on his account today..  and instead of opening in the online account manager..   the account manager opened a browser
[08:57] <aeon-ltd> Vivekananda: yes but you'd have to have something equal to the size of the volume you're copying so you can copy it back
[08:57] <l057c0d3r> i thought this was a fluke.. so i grabbed my sisters computer and tried on hers....  and it did the same thing... im thinking maybe facebook changed something
[08:58] <l057c0d3r> then popped in a live cd and tried on it..  same thing..
[08:58] <wiggmpk> l057c0d3r: how are you trying to add it? walk me through the steps
[08:58] <l057c0d3r> well for starters were all running gnome3
[08:58] <aeon-ltd> Vivekananda: or at least equal to the size of the partitions you want to back up
[08:58] <l057c0d3r> but i tried same way i added my origional account..
[08:59] <fried0> cfhowlett:  I got a result which was no surprise to me, PERMISSION DENIED! for deleting the file
[08:59] <l057c0d3r> opened online account manager..  clicked facebook..  clicked add account...
[08:59] <pishkur> anyone?
[08:59] <cfhowlett> fried0, sudo rm then
[08:59] <fried0> cfhowlett: I DID!
[08:59] <l057c0d3r> but now insetad of opening in the account manager.. it opens the default browser.... and when you log in..  you get a sucess message on the website.. but since its not in the online account manager.. its not passed on.. so account is never added
[09:00] <l057c0d3r> uninstalled all the browsers..  and tried again..  and odd thing.. it opened abiword instead
[09:00] <wiggmpk> l057c0d3r: i just removed mine and re-added it, without any issues
[09:00] <fried0> cfhowlett: Isn't that what you just suggested "sudo rm" you say it like it was a new suggestion
[09:00] <l057c0d3r> are u using unity??
[09:00] <wiggmpk> l057c0d3r: never ever ever ever ever
[09:00] <l057c0d3r> so you have gnome 3
[09:00] <l057c0d3r> so you have gnome 3/
[09:01] <l057c0d3r> err sorry didn't mean to double post
[09:01] <wiggmpk> l057c0d3r: GNOME Shell 3.4.1
[09:01] <cfhowlett> fried0, I agree this is frustrating.  Let's take a break to clear the mind.
[09:01] <l057c0d3r> wiggmpk...
[09:01] <l057c0d3r> so it opned the add account in your online account manager
[09:01] <fried0> cfhowlett: I used sudo rm and dragged and dropped a file to be deleted (it wouldn't let me delete the directory itself) and it gave permission denied. It won't let me sudo because I am not logged into the OS the file is under
[09:01] <l057c0d3r> well wtf
[09:01] <l057c0d3r> why is it opening in a browser on all the computers here
[09:02] <wiggmpk> l057c0d3r: i hit the plus sign.. asked me for my login credentials and then added
[09:02] <l057c0d3r> did you install ubuntu/unity first...  and then installed gnome..
[09:02] <l057c0d3r> or did u use gnome remix / other way like mini install gnome
[09:02] <nearst> howdy ubuntu fans
[09:02] <wiggmpk> l057c0d3r: did you allow access on facebook?
[09:02] <fried0> cfhowlett How long of a break were you thinking?
[09:03] <Milos__>  hi, i have some help question. I already have w7 installed on my notebook , and as i have a lot of space (1TB hdd) decided to install and ubuntu 12.10 in order for dual boot. While choosing install option i choosed third one, cause first was restarting notebook ,and second didnt work for me. I installed Ubuntu on cleared partition ext4, and when installation finished i clicked restart as it wanted. Then
[09:03] <Milos__>  i couldnt boot into Ubuntu, after some search i decided to install easyBCD, and I managed to add Ubuntu in booting option. Now on boot, i have to choose between w7 and ubuntu, and when i selecet ubuntu , i get grub cmd. I type boot, but it says "Kernel have to be loaded before boot". Please Help me , I donk know what to do now.
[09:03] <l057c0d3r> wiggmpk  yes.. i've used it before...
[09:03] <wiggmpk> l057c0d3r: i still have Unity installed, I just dont use it.. im on 12.04.2
[09:03] <lifebird64> question: when upgrading (12.04/12.10 for example) is it generally a better idea to do a fresh install or would I be wasting my time/effort?
[09:03] <l057c0d3r> hmm.
[09:03] <nearst> Milos__, tryingwith wubi and restore grub? or try it live-cd instead
[09:03] <wiggmpk> l057c0d3r: try logging into facebook and removing access to "Gnome" in your apps section
[09:04] <nearst> lifebird64, consider for lts or normal release imo
[09:04] <aeon-ltd> Milos__: nort a direct solution, but i think you should start again on installing ubuntu, keep win7 as it is though.
[09:04] <l057c0d3r> right.. tried that already
[09:04] <fried0> Anyone able to help? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5557447/
[09:04] <l057c0d3r> wiggmpk.. when you clicked the add button.. did it popup login information in the online account manager or a browser
[09:04] <l057c0d3r> because mine pops up in a browser...
[09:04] <wiggmpk> l057c0d3r: did you try opening empathy and adding the account via empathy and no "Online Accounts"
[09:04] <fried0> If I could just delete these files, I think everything would work again
[09:04] <lifebird64> nearst: thx
[09:05] <l057c0d3r> yeah..  but when i open empathy and click add account.. it just opens the online accounts menu
[09:05] <wiggmpk> l057c0d3r: it asked in the online account manager, no browser was opened
[09:05] <nearst> fried0, i think u gonna chroot your ubuntu hdd and repair grub for that in case
[09:05] <Milos__> aeon-ltd: i tried re-install many times, but when i click restar , and i not pull usb stick from pc, it takes me back on install menu
[09:05] <l057c0d3r> hmm.. in the ubuntu online account manager i can add a facebook account and it works fine.. but it only works with gwibber
[09:06] <wiggmpk> l057c0d3r: it should be titled "Messaging and VoIP Accounts"
[09:06] <Milos__> nearst: i dont know how to start wubi from grub
[09:06] <nearst> im use facebook with command line. more betterim guess
[09:06] <l057c0d3r> right right....
[09:06] <fried0> nearst: I didn't understand that, but I don't think it is a matter of the OS being broken, that no repair is necessary, it just doesn't have the space it needs in order to boot
[09:06] <nearst> Milos__, than worth a shot with start from usb
[09:07] <nearst> fried0, df -h
[09:07] <fried0> nearst: I don't know what that means
[09:08] <Milos__> nearst: so when i boot pc with usb> try linux witout installing - and then what?
[09:08] <l057c0d3r> well i right click the empathy in top bar.. since empathy has no menu bar on here.. and click accounts because its the only option there
[09:08] <l057c0d3r> and online accounts opens
[09:08] <l057c0d3r> click faceboot and then the plus sign.. and bamn.. web browser opens
[09:08] <l057c0d3r> sigh....
[09:08] <wiggmpk> try F4, should be under the Edit menu
[09:09] <l057c0d3r> it was working a few days ago..  what happened.
[09:09] <fried0> wiggmpk:	Are you able to help? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5557447/
[09:09] <l057c0d3r> i open empathy and hit f4 and online account manager opens
[09:10] <wiggmpk> l057c0d3r: weird
[09:10] <l057c0d3r> and this is a fresh install
[09:10] <l057c0d3r> just installed it today because of this issue
[09:10] <l057c0d3r> and its the second install today
[09:10] <l057c0d3r> tried with the gnome remix..  got this error
[09:11] <l057c0d3r> tried with mini install and from term..  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop ubuntu-gnome-default-settings
[09:11] <l057c0d3r> same issue
[09:11] <nearst> Milos__, http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd/
[09:11] <l057c0d3r> maybe i should just install ubuntu/unity install.. and then see if i can add my account from unity.. and then install gnome :-p
[09:12] <l057c0d3r> maybe it has something to do with 12.10?
[09:12] <nearst> fried0, look your available free space by df -h in terminal
[09:12] <nearst> brb
[09:13] <ak91> Sore
[09:13] <ak91> Hallow
[09:13] <ak91> Selamat sore?
[09:13] <ak91> Pada gak jawab
[09:13] <cfhowlett> ak91, english spoken here ...
[09:13] <wiggmpk> fried0: sorry friend.. I would suggest backing up all your important files and reinstalling..
[09:13] <fried0> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5557528/
[09:14] <fried0> wiggmpk no idea how I might delete a few files?
[09:14] <wiggmpk> nearst: fried0, look your available free space by df -h in terminal
[09:14] <l057c0d3r> well im going to try a few more things....  im about to give up and go to pidgin..
[09:15] <wiggmpk> fried0: see what's taking up all the space first
[09:15] <fried0> wiggmpk: I know how much free space I have, ZERO! So looking that up is pointless, I just need to know how to delete files!
[09:15] <ak91> Ok. Sory.
[09:15] <ak91> Introduce
[09:15] <l057c0d3r> but i loved how empathy was built into the shell..  was nice being able to chat with people from the popup rather then opening a window
[09:15] <fried0> wiggmpk: I know what is taking up space! I am just unable to delete any of it!
[09:15] <l057c0d3r> fried0: even with sudo?
[09:15] <ak91> I am ak91
[09:15] <wiggmpk> fried0: how are you 'trying' to delete ?
[09:16] <fried0> 1057 http://paste.ubuntu.com/5557528/
[09:16] <l057c0d3r> wiggmpk: how did you install gnome??  with ubuntu-gnome-desktop ubuntu-gnome-default-settings?
[09:16] <wiggmpk> l057c0d3r: ummm... sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[09:17] <fried0> wiggmpk: Sudo command, right clicking, but I know what I can't, I am outside of the OS of the partition the files are on, so I lack any way to gain permission with them
[09:17] <wiggmpk> l057c0d3r: im also using the gnome3 ppa
[09:17] <l057c0d3r> wiggmpk me too
[09:17] <aeon-ltd> fried0: chroot
[09:17] <fried0> that I know of
[09:17] <l057c0d3r> the gnome3 ppa that is
[09:17] <azi`> i have just updated ubuntu and now when I try to boot into another OS through grub I get the error "cannot find C/H/S values" anyone happens to know what could  have happened?
[09:17] <fried0> aeon-ltd: I need more then that
[09:17] <aeon-ltd> fried0: chroot into your install
[09:17] <fried0> aeon-ltd: that word doesn't mean anything to me by itself
[09:17] <l057c0d3r> exit
[09:17] <aeon-ltd> fried0: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot
[09:17] <fried0> aeon-ltd: And how do I do that? Does that mean loading to command prompt?
[09:17] <l057c0d3r> blah
[09:18] <fried0> aeon-ltd: I don't see what that has to do with deleting files
[09:18] <wiggmpk> fried0: personally I would think it would be easier for you (no disrespect) to boot from a LiveCD and backup everything to a flash drive or external hard drive and just reinstall
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[09:19] <aeon-ltd> fried0: if permissions is the problem this should solve that
[09:20] <fried0> aeon-ltd: and I can chroot with files for a different OS?
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[09:20] <FloodBot1> GeRMaN0000: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:20] <aeon-ltd> fried0: what?
[09:20] <fried0> Aside from that, germans flooding advertising
[09:21] <fried0> aeon-ltd: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5557528/
[09:22] <aeon-ltd> fried0: what you use chroot, you'll be "in" your install on the hdd acting as if you were logged into it
[09:22] <aeon-ltd> *when not what
[09:22] <fried0> aeon-ltd: Ah alright, I will read some and see what I can figure out, any help in that would be appreciated
[09:23] <fried0> aeon-ltd: It says "Type these commands in a shell which is outside the chroot. " what does it mean, outside of the chroot? And by shell, does it mean terminal?
[09:24] <Vivekananda> anyone help me trouble shoot my graphics card problems too ?
[09:25] <fried0> aeon-ltd: It says "Install the dchroot and debootstrap packages. " but how do I do that?
[09:25] <aeon-ltd> fried0: yes in a terminal, outside of the chroot would be whatever you're booted into but not the hdd
[09:27] <fried0> aeon-ltd: It says "Install the dchroot and debootstrap packages. " but how do I do that?
[09:28] <aeon-ltd> fried0: gonna be honest here, i've never done it where i've had to do that. i've only done chroot by this https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Change_Root
[09:28] <fried0> Anyone know?
[09:29] <aeon-ltd> fried0: if you are booted into a device you can write to just apt-get those packages
[09:30] <fried0> aeon-ltd: This seems very different then the other page you gave me, which one should I use?
[09:30] <fried0> aeon-ltd: Please think of me as stupid for a second and tell me how to apt-get those packages for install
[09:30] <fried0> especially, under unity
[09:30] <fried0> which is major confusing
[09:31] <aeon-ltd> fried0: sudo apt-get install dchroot debootstrap
[09:31] <dr_willis> the arch docs assume you know sime fundamentals.
[09:31] <fried0> aeon-ltd:  "E: Unable to locate package dchroot"
[09:33] <aeon-ltd> fried0: screw the chroot idea. have you tried something basic like using a livecd to work on the volume?
[09:33] <fried0> it was able to find and install debootstrap though
[09:33] <fried0> aeon-ltd: I am working off a live USB at this moment
[09:34] <fried0> aeon-ltd: but it won't give me permission to delete files from the OS HDD
[09:34] <fried0> er partition
[09:35] <fried0> aeon-ltd: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5557528/
[09:36] <fried0> aeon-ltd: So I guess that brings us back to chroot?
[09:37] <fried0> dr_willis: Are you able to help?
[09:37] <aeon-ltd> fried0: how did you recover files and how was it interrupted?
[09:38] <fried0> aeon-ltd: The program was called photo-something (can't recall second part of the name) and its recovery process was interrupted when the HDD ran out of space
[09:38] <fried0> I mean partition
[09:41] <aeon-ltd> fried0: is it currently mounted? can you read off the partition?
[09:41] <dr_willis> im not even sure of the original problem
[09:41] <cousin_luigi> Greetings.
[09:41] <cousin_luigi> Is there a clean way to install libreoffice 4 on Quantal?
[09:41] <gidna> Hi
[09:41] <dr_willis> !info photorec
[09:41] <gidna> I've problems with evolution mail, I cannot dowload mails..
[09:41] <dr_willis> cousin_luigi: theres ppas for it i belive
[09:42] <cousin_luigi> dr_willis: I couldn't find one for the final release
[09:42] <fried0> aeon-ltd: photorec is the name of the program. Yes the partition is mounted and I can look at files on it, I just can't alter or delete any of them
[09:42] <dr_willis> !find photorec
[09:42] <aeon-ltd> fried0: and when you try?
[09:42] <dr_willis> cousin_luigi: check on askununtu.com  i rhink i saw this asked there
[09:43] <ubuntu-studio> hello, i have some questions about installing ubuntu studio. I have already installed ubuntu 12.10, and i want to install studio. but i dont know a lot about partitioning, and i dont want to destroy my pc :P any instuctions?
[09:43] <dr_willis> !info ubuntu-studio-desktop
[09:43] <dilip> #okchat 4 lyf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:43] <gabriell> #okchat 4 lyf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:43] <heung-do> #okchat 4 lyf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:43] <dilip> #okchat 4 lyf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:43] <gabriell> #okchat 4 lyf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:43] <heung-do> #okchat 4 lyf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:43] <lalith> #okchat 4 lyf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:43] <kristi> #okchat 4 lyf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:43] <gabriell> #okchat 4 lyf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:43] <heung-do> #okchat 4 lyf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:43] <lalith> #okchat 4 lyf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:43] <dilip> #okchat 4 lyf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:43] <lalith> #okchat 4 lyf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:45] <OerHeks> !info ubuntustudio-desktop
[09:46] <fried0> aeon-ltd: And when I use the sudo command, it doesn't ask for a password but goes straight to denial of access
[09:46] <fried0> What is up with all these mode messages?
[09:47] <dr_willis> so installing the ubuntustudio-desktop package basically turns your ubuntu install into a ubuntu studio install
[09:47] <dr_willis> fried0:  silly spammers... and the bots that defend us from them
[09:47] <cousin_luigi> dr_willis: no clean way, apparently
[09:47] <aeon-ltd> fried0: exact message of the denial of access?
[09:47] <dr_willis> I got them filtered out on my weechat client
[09:47] <cousin_luigi> bbl
[09:47] <dr_willis> cousin_luigi:  depends on how you define clean
[09:47] <fried0> dr_willis: with chatzilla, how can I turn off those messages
[09:47] <dr_willis> i have no issues insstalling  the * desktop packages
[09:47] <dr_willis> fried0:  no idea.. i perfer better irc clients
[09:47] <fried0> aeon-ltd: Would you please do me a favor and give me the exact sudo delete command again?
[09:48] <salva> !list
[09:48] <aeon-ltd> fried0: first be careful, one mispelling or missed / could result in huge amounts of data loss if it works
[09:49] <aeon-ltd> fried0: sudo rm -r /path/to/directory
[09:49] <fried0> aeon-ltd: Ok, so what is the command please?
[09:49] <nibbler> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5557608/ - when would i have to start to worry?
[09:50] <dr_willis> nibbler:  you could summarize the problem a bit more.. most people dont automatically go to every paste url postedd.
[09:50] <fried0> aeon-ltd: command seems to be bad, it tries to load the file, rather then trying to delete it
[09:51] <dr_willis> fried0:  whats the exact command you used?
[09:51] <Ben64> nibbler: a month ago
[09:51] <fried0> sudo rm -r '/media/1e8ea1f1-4065-414b-8724-c23425fe903e/home/me/Documents/recup_dir.1/f25124864.mkv'
[09:52] <fried0> it tries to run the video when I do that
[09:52] <DoctorD90_> hello! i need a lillte support with a script: take only ip, using ping command. i write this: ping -c 1 www.site.com |sed -e 's/.*(\([^"]*\)).*/\1/'
[09:52] <aeon-ltd> fried0: exact output please
[09:52] <nibbler> paste above is about smart values of my harddrives, i don't knowhow to interpret them.
[09:52] <dr_willis> run the video?  you mwan a video player app starts up?
[09:52] <DoctorD90_> but it reply to me other information too
[09:52] <fried0> dr_willis: exactly
[09:53] <dr_willis> fried0:  so if you do 'sudo rm' it starts a empty video player?
[09:53] <fried0> dr_willis: I just tried again and got a different result
[09:53] <fried0> dr_willis: aeon-ltd bash: /media/1e8ea1f1-4065-414b-8724-c23425fe903e/home/a/Documents/recup_dir.1/f0378026.mpg: Permission denied
[09:54] <dr_willis> i would cd to where that file is.. and save on the huge paths.. ;)    cd /media/1e<hit the tabkey>/home/a/Documents/rec<use tab key a lot>
[09:55] <dr_willis> then do a ls -al f03* to check the files permissions and ownership
[09:55] <aeon-ltd> fried0: those were 2 different files?
[09:55] <fried0> aeon-ltd: I guess so, I drag and drop files to the command
[09:55] <fried0> to the terminal
[09:56] <dr_willis> err.. dont be drag/dropping.. use just the terminal
[09:57] <fried0> dr_willis why? That makes things more difficult for me
[09:58] <dr_willis> fried0:  learn the shell... you are most likely adding to our support help confusion
[09:58] <fried0> dr_willis:  OK I changed to the directory (by dropping and dragging) in terminal, but if I don't drop and drag the files still, it seems like it will be difficult
[09:58] <nearst> back. hi ppl
[09:58] <nibbler> Ben64: seriously?
[09:58] <aeon-ltd> fried0: press tab when typing part of the name[s]
[09:58] <dr_willis> fried0:  whats difficult about rm fiilename >
[09:59] <DoctorD90_> i think i have done ^^ bye ^^
[09:59] <dr_willis> fried0:  the tab key is your friend... give it a kiss to tell it how much you are going to love it..
[09:59] <dr_willis> ;)
[09:59] <fried0> dr_willis:  Because most of these file names are random collections of letters and numbers
[09:59] <dr_willis> fried0:  the tab key is your friend
[09:59] <aeon-ltd> fried0: go to any directory within that hdd
[09:59] <fried0> dr_willis: What is the harm in drag and drop? Is there harm at all? Or are you just using me in your rail against point and click?
[10:00] <dr_willis> fried0:  so you just want to delete some mpg files/ or what are we doing exactly
[10:00] <aeon-ltd> fried0: touch test.txt
[10:00] <aeon-ltd> then do that, post the output here
[10:00] <dr_willis> fried0:  i imagine your dragdriooiung somehow launched the file.. using  'rm filename' is NOT supposed to start the video player
[10:00] <fried0> dr_willis: I need to delete some files, yes http://paste.ubuntu.com/5557528/
[10:00] <nyuszika7h> hi
[10:01] <fried0> aeon-ltd:  "touch: cannot touch `test.txt': Permission denied"
[10:01] <fried0> followed by the directory path I was in
[10:01] <nyuszika7h> Feb 23 10:51:27 ubuntu kernel: [  941.962661] glxgears[3546]: segfault at fffffffc ip b6c5d29f sp bfeff940 error 4 in libdrm_nouveau.so.2.0.0[b6c5b000+6000]
[10:01] <Ben64> nibbler: yep
[10:03] <fried0> dr_willis:  Well anyway, the fact remains, the live USB I am running from isn't allowing me the permission I need to delete the files I need from the OS on partition so that I can boot it again
[10:03] <aeon-ltd> fried0: this is my last idea, it's going to be unmounting the hdd then remounting with rw
[10:04] <fried0> aeon-ltd: Why would that help with permissions? And what about that chroot thing?
[10:04] <fried0> aeon-ltd: You said it would give me permission, wouldn't that be perfect then for this problem?
[10:04] <dr_willis> fried0:  you need to use sudo rights to do things.. does 'sudo touch test.txt' work?
[10:04] <aeon-ltd> ^ this first
[10:05] <fried0> dr__willis lack of sudo rights IS the problem
[10:05] <dr_willis> fried0:  if you are on a live cd.. you do have sudo rights
[10:05] <dr_willis> you are not using the installed system. you are just accessing its files..
[10:05] <aeon-ltd> fried0: on unencrypted systems this works
[10:05] <fried0> dr_willis: Apparently not
[10:05] <dr_willis> this is on an encrypted home?
[10:06] <fried0> dr_willis: I don't recall ever encrypting it, so I suspect not
[10:06] <dr_willis> so does  'sudo touch file.txt' work ?
[10:06] <fried0> dr_willis:  But how do you explain how sudo doesn't ask for my password or give me permission? No it says I lack permission
[10:07] <nyuszika7h> fried0: on the live CD/USB, sudo is probably configured not to ask for a password
[10:07] <dr_willis> fried0:  sudo on the LIVE CD does not ask for a password..
[10:07] <fried0> It isn't giving me permission anyway
[10:07] <dr_willis> fried0:  try as a test  'sudo touch /testfile.txt'
[10:08] <dr_willis> if there was a hd failure/issue/ or filesystgtem curruption the data drive could be getting mounted read only,
[10:09] <fried0> dr_willis: it gave me no message when I put that, it just went to a fresh command prompt
[10:09] <dr_willis> fried0:  that maens it worked.  ;)
[10:09] <dr_willis> i got a real job to do.. be back in a little bit...
[10:09] <aeon-ltd> fried0: were you in the hdd when you did that?
[10:09] <fried0> yes
[10:09] <aeon-ltd> then it works
[10:09] <fried0> in a path in the HDD in terminal
[10:10] <fried0> so how do I use that to delete files?
[10:10] <aeon-ltd> now delete that file
[10:10] <aeon-ltd> fried0: sudo rm testfile.txt
[10:11] <fried0> aeon-ltd: rm: cannot remove `testfile.txt': No such file or directory
[10:12] <fried0> So apparently it didn't work, if the previous command was to make a file
[10:12] <fried0> not that there is any space to do so
[10:12] <aeon-ltd> fried0: do 'ls -a' is testfile listed?
[10:12] <fried0> there are too many files in this directory to check
[10:13] <fried0> There is a second partition as well, and I also seem to lack permission in it too
[10:13] <aeon-ltd> fried0: use tab completion to find it
[10:13] <fried0> judging by how send to recycling is grayed out on all files
[10:14] <histo> fried0: did you jus tell him to touch /testfile.txt  that would put it in /
[10:14] <histo> dr_willis:  ^^^^^^^^^^
[10:14] <fried0> aeon-ltd: No testfile
[10:14] <histo> fried0: ls /testfile.txt
[10:14] <fried0> no such file
[10:14] <aeon-ltd> if you did what histo said, we've made no progress
[10:15] <fried0> it didnt make it, despite the lack of message
[10:16] <aeon-ltd> fried0: not even in /?
[10:16] <fried0> aeon-ltd: where is that?
[10:16] <aeon-ltd> the highest directory
[10:17] <fried0> aeon-ltd: so where I am when I click on the partition?
[10:17] <aeon-ltd> no it'll be in whatever you booted into
[10:18] <histo> fried0: How did you mount your hard drive?
[10:18] <aeon-ltd> i give up, someone else here can assist on the chroot or remount idea
[10:18] <fried0> aeon-ltd: I don't understand what you mean, but I tried making the file in different locations, and it never appeared
[10:18] <fried0> histo: it automounted when I booted from live usb
[10:19] <fried0> histo:  Do you think unmounting and remounting might give me my sudo permissions somehow?
[10:19] <histo> fried0: Okay I came in late are you trying to recover files off this drive? I saw you were messing with photorec directories
[10:19] <fried0> histo: I am trying to delete files so the OS on partition can load
[10:20] <fried0> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5557528/
[10:20] <histo> fried0: okay just type the mount command in a terminal. That will print out the currently mounted partitions
[10:20] <histo> fried0: pastebin the output of that
[10:21] <histo> fried0: mount | pastebinit    would give you a hyperlink to share in here. If you have pastebinit installed
[10:21] <fried0> histo http://paste.ubuntu.com/5557674/
[10:21] <fried0> well I manually did it through the website, but I bet that would be more convenient
[10:22] <histo> fried0: okay cd /media/1e8ea1f1-4065-414b-8724-c23425fe903e   To get into your root partition
[10:22] <histo> rm to delete files
[10:22] <claudia> ciao
[10:22] <histo> becarefull as you can really cause problems deleting the wrong stuff.
[10:22] <fried0> histo: it will just say I lack permission
[10:23] <claudia> dove si scaricano i telefilm
[10:23] <dr_willis> !it
[10:23] <histo> fried0: the other option maybe sudo chroot /media/1e8ea1f1-4065-414b-8724-c23425fe903e and then once you are there sudo apt-get clean  should free up quite a bit of space.
[10:23] <histo> fried0: You shouldn't get errors the disk is mounted rw
[10:23] <fried0> histo: the issue is that it isn't giving me permissions that I need to delete any files
[10:24] <histo> fried0: please try sudo chroot command above. Let me know if it dumps you back to a prompt without error
[10:25] <fried0> histo: It sent me to this prompt "root@ubuntu:/#"
[10:25] <histo> fried0: okay now    apt-get clean
[10:25] <histo> fried0: that will remove downloaded cached packages that are stored on the disk.
[10:25] <fried0> histo: rather, I know what files I want to remove, I don't need clean to decide, anyway they are files clean is unlikely to decide should be removed
[10:26] <fried0> histo: anyway, I recently did a clean, there is nothing left to clean out
[10:26] <histo> fried0: right clean only removes files from /var/cache/apt
[10:26] <histo> fried0: df -h   will show you how much freespace there is.
[10:26]  * dr_willis wonders what the %full of the disk is right now
[10:26] <histo> fried0: can you paste the output of df -h
[10:26] <fried0> histo: Yeah, so I just need to delete these fills that are staring me in the face, how can I do so
[10:26] <fried0> dr_willis: 100%
[10:27] <asustf300> Ubuntu phone OS release date? pls
[10:27] <histo> fried0: rm somefilename
[10:27] <histo> !phone > asustf300
[10:27] <fried0> dr_willis: the OS partition I mean
[10:27] <dr_willis> asustf300:  no one knows..
[10:27] <histo> fried0: another space you can free up is /tmp /var/log/*  to name a few
[10:27] <dr_willis> fried0:  its possile theres some file system curruption going on as well.
[10:28] <histo> fried0: also you can remove old kernels with apt-get purge
[10:28] <dr_willis> so removeing some other files  then those video files may help
[10:28] <fried0> how do I install pastebin and how do I run that command with pastebin?
[10:28] <asustf300> dr_willis thanks as usual want to give it a try on my nexus 4 they have a cradle for the device. :)
[10:28] <fried0> Anyway, that command simply said what I already knew, 100% on everything
[10:28] <histo> fried0: don't install anything now. Since you are chroot it will try and install on the root of your hard drive you are tryign to remove files from
[10:29] <histo> fried0: you can copy and paste it. Since you are in X to paste.ubuntu.com
[10:29] <asustf300> dr_willis whats the latest for ubuntu 13.01 yet?
[10:29] <histo> !raring > assu
[10:30] <histo> !raring | asustf300
[10:30] <fried0> it is 100% on everything, do you really want the exact list? And why are you talking to me in PM? Besides which, I can't figure out how to PM someone in chatzilla
[10:30] <santosh> How to exclude a directory with 'find'?
[10:30] <fried0> histo
[10:30] <histo> fried0: I'm not talking to you in PM
[10:30] <fried0> oh
[10:30] <fried0> er nm
[10:31] <fried0> histo So its 100% all around, you still want the exact output?
[10:31] <histo> santosh: -prune
[10:32] <asustf300> thanks histo been 6 months since i pulled out my desktop it drains to much power off the wall so I went with energy saving android devices. I cant wait till ubuntu phone OS comes out hopefull I can find a way to make it work on my transformer.
[10:33] <histo> asustf300: you can install ubuntu right now in a chroot in android but way outside of me explaining in here. People in #ubuntu-phone may be able to help with it.
[10:33] <histo> fried0: yes if you can paste.ubuntu.com it
[10:33] <santosh> histo: is this syntax correct? find -prune Desktop/ mysearchstring
[10:33] <claudia> ciao
[10:34] <histo> santosh: kind of
[10:34] <fried0> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5557700/
[10:35] <histo> fried0: how'd you fill 46G on /  ?
[10:35] <asustf300> histo seen that i can chroot the ubuntu experience to tf300 or Arch Linux. Just not a fan of that much work.  Been there done that with arch linux installs.  Just a matter of time before someone comes up with a bootloader.
[10:36] <fried0> histo:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5557528/
[10:36] <fried0> Much of it is video files
[10:36] <fried0> animes,
[10:36] <santosh> histo: But that doesn't works.
[10:36] <fried0> the rest was filled with the photorec data recovery
[10:36] <histo> asustf300: pretty much. The issue is having the ability to install a bootloader and drivers for your hardware in your android device. It's going to be a rocky road for a while. They are only really devving for one phone right now.
[10:37] <histo> santosh: what are you trying to do with find ?? just print?
[10:37] <fried0> histo oh you mean to / specifically? I guess photorec
[10:37] <santosh> histo: Yes, the paths matching 'mysearchstring'
[10:37] <bodsda> fried0: are you booted from the flash drive at the moment?
[10:37] <asustf300> histo no big deal started with linux in 1994 and look how far we have come. :P  Anyway to buy a ubuntu tv?
[10:38] <dr_willis> asustf300:  since they dont exist yet... tht may be hard
[10:38] <fried0> bodsda:  Yes http://paste.ubuntu.com/5557528/
[10:38] <asustf300> lmao,
[10:38] <bodsda> fried0: is your local hdd (the one thats filled) mounted?
[10:38] <fried0> bodsda: Yes
[10:39] <bodsda> fried0: can you pastebin the output of the following commands for me   'mount'  'sudo fdisk -l'  'df -h'
[10:39] <histo> santosh: find . \(-name foo -type d -prune\) mysearchstring
[10:39] <fried0> bodsda: It just won't give me permission to do anything with it, including making or deleting files, and deleting some files is all I am aiming to do
[10:40] <asustf300> dr_willis and histo your making me start to hate these retail companies. :(
[10:40] <dr_willis> fried0:  have you tried fscking that full filesystem yet?
[10:40] <bodsda> fried0: ok, the mount command will tell me what permissions the drive is mounted with
[10:40] <histo> santosh: you should also 'foo'  sorry forgot the qoutes
[10:40] <dr_willis> asustf300:  because you want a produce thaats not even out yet? ;)
[10:40] <fried0> bodsda: is the ' part of the command/is that one string? Or are each a separate command?
[10:40] <fried0> dr_willis: I don't know what that means
[10:41] <histo> fried0: no just  rm /path/to/files/you/want/deleted
[10:41] <bodsda> fried0: eacha separate command
[10:41] <dr_willis> fried0:  that means a through check of the filesystem.. which may be part of the whole issue.. because sudo rm file   should not be givine permission denied erorss on a rw partition
[10:41] <dr_willis> fried0:  you dont fsck a mounted filesystem however..
[10:41] <fried0> histo you mean just rm with no sudo, while in root?
[10:41] <asustf300> dr_willis not even out yet was shown off at ces 2012 for tv and just this year ces 2013 for the phone! What you mean doesn't exsist?
[10:41] <histo> dr_willis: Who knows what he was actually typing he was copying an pasting
[10:41] <histo> fried0: yes
[10:42] <histo> fried0: if you want to delete a directory you will have to use rm -rf /path/to/directory   BE VERY CAREFULL with this
[10:42] <dr_willis> asustf300:   what you mean you are suprised at hardware previews that never come out?  wheres my Amiga Based Set top box? ;)   wheres my Raspbery Pi.. oh wait.. i got 2 of those.. ;P
[10:42] <dr_willis> asustf300:  i will belive in the ubuntu phone.. when i can go buy one. same for the ubuntu tv.
[10:43] <fried0> histo it fails to find the file
[10:43] <fried0> histo No such file or directory
[10:43] <dr_willis> and i got one of those oxys game consoles preordered on amazon. ;) i will be amazed when it actually ships also.
[10:43] <neirpyc> Is there a channel specific to Ubuntu on Macs?
[10:43] <silv3r_m00n> I need to do some simple editing to ogv videos like cutting out parts of it, what's the best gui tool for it ?
[10:43] <histo> fried0: can you please paste here what command you are doing
[10:43] <histo> fried0: only one line not more than 3
[10:44] <asustf300> dr_willis just put me to work i will build it for free and you can pay me after you collect some money this is how ibm got started.
[10:44] <heheheh> is it good to updrage  ? will there ever be problem ?
[10:44] <heheheh> updgraging
[10:44] <fried0> histo simple rm then I drop and drag a file to terminal. I have to drop and drag, there are way too many random characters involved not to
[10:44] <dr_willis> heheheh:  when in doubt. make backups
[10:44] <bodsda> heheheh: yes, and always a chance
[10:44] <histo> neirpyc: msg alis list *ubuntu*mac*
[10:44] <dr_willis> fried0:  you still havent understood the use of the tab key?
[10:44] <histo> fried0: there are no more random characters you are on the / of you drive no more /media/1sxlkclvjkzxcl;vkjal;sdkgasl;dkg
[10:44] <fried0> both in the path, and file names
[10:45] <heheheh> how to make backup in ubuntu
[10:45] <histo> fried0: did you run photorec in your home?
[10:45] <dr_willis> !backup |  heheheh
[10:45] <heheheh> and what actually get backup ?
[10:45] <DJones> !backup | heheheh
[10:45] <bodsda> heheheh: however you want - rsync, cp, tar .. etc
[10:45] <dr_willis> heheheh:  what you tell it to
[10:46] <heheheh> whta's the benefit of the latest version ? what get improved ?
[10:46] <histo> heheheh: dejadupe  I think was one.
[10:46] <fried0> histo: I you said rm then the path to the file I want to remove, and that path contains crazy random characters, and so do the files I wish to remove
[10:46] <bodsda> heheheh: updated packages
[10:46] <histo> heheheh: ? has always been ? nothing improved
[10:46] <bodsda> fried0: tab completion
[10:46] <histo> fried0: please use tab to autocomplete the path. Because obviously your copy and paste is wrong if the file isn't there.
[10:47] <asustf300> heheheh watch a youtube video it will speak a thousand words by a single video.
[10:47] <histo> fried0: if they are in your home. I would cd /home/fried0   then you will see the photorec recup_dir's there
[10:47] <bodsda> histo: I'm guessing he's already chrooted?
[10:47] <histo> fried0: I have to go but good luck others can help you as your entire issue is do to the incorrect path
[10:47] <histo> bodsda: yes I helped him do that
[10:48] <bodsda> cool
[10:48] <fried0> and I will need to move to the directory path the files are in as well, right? Well that also contains crazy random characters, and tab isn't autocompleting those
[10:48] <histo> bodsda: I have to go if you can help explain.
[10:48] <bodsda> histo: sure thing
[10:48] <neirpyc> histo, thanks. Only channel on here is dead though. =(
[10:48] <dr_willis> drag and drop will NOT work into a chrooted terminal
[10:48] <histo> fried0: if you could give an example of your crazy random numbers path? I think you are still thinking of /media/1a;lkjxczl;kvjhal;skdhfgl;askdjfgasl;kdfj  which doesn't exist right now that you are chrooted
[10:48] <dr_willis> the / is different
[10:48] <fried0> how do I list directories?
[10:48] <histo> fried0: ls
[10:49] <dr_willis> bbl
[10:49] <bodsda> fried0: please run the following command and pastebin the output (I need the line that includes the command your running as well --    ls -lah
[10:49] <scarleo> Hi, just configured IPv6 on my Ubuntu server but when I try to ping external addresses it tries to ping from my Scope:Link address instead of the Scope:Global address. Does anyone know what might cause this?
[10:49] <histo> bodsda: he's probably still in / of the chrooted /dev/sda1   which is 100% full so he's trying to delete some recup_dir.1/foo files he filed up his drive with.
[10:49] <histo> have to go
[10:50] <asustf300> well good night check back in 2 months see if ubuntu has released either the tv or the phone 0S Good Night :P
[10:50] <bodsda> histo: no problem - I just need to find where he is and where the files are first
[10:53] <bodsda> fried0: If you don't paste the output we won't be able to help you
[10:54] <fried0> histo: bodsda dr_willis OK I have managed to delete a file from root, but I am not sure
[10:54] <dr_willis> not sure if what?
[10:55] <dr_willis> of.
[10:55] <fried0> I navigated to the directory, I put rm file name, first time I do so, it goes back to prompt, second time it says the file doesn't exist.
[10:55] <fried0> So that suggests I did manage to delete it, yet my free space still says  0
[10:55] <dr_willis> rounding...
[10:55] <bodsda> fried0: that sounds positive - but a single file won't make much difference - can you paste the output I asked for please
[10:56] <dr_willis> start deleting junk
[10:56] <dr_willis> ;)
[10:56] <fried0> bodsda:  That just gives a long list of the files in that directory
[10:57] <bodsda> fried0: I know - but if you also show me what directory your in we will be able to give you a better idea of how to free ther space up
[10:57] <fried0> dr_willis: OK so how can I delete more files at a time, BTW, tab complete is nearly worthless, too many files all starting with the same characters
[10:57] <bodsda> fried0: wildcards -- rm /some/path/thestartoffiles*
[10:57] <dr_willis> so  rhey start the same.... so what
[10:57] <Ben64> fried0: what files are you deleting?
[10:58] <fried0> Ben64: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5557528/
[10:58] <Ben64> fried0: thats nice, doesn't really answer the question though
[10:59] <bodsda> heh
[10:59] <fried0> bodsda how do I mass delete everything in the directory?
[10:59] <Ben64> what directory
[10:59] <bodsda> fried0: assuming your in the directory -- rm ./*
[10:59] <neirpyc> just rm the directory
[10:59] <Ben64> could be very dangerous ^
[11:00] <dr_willis> rm -r thedir
[11:00] <Ben64> but i guess if you like being enigmatic, thats the best solution
[11:00] <bodsda> Ben64: for info - it's a photorec dir that's filled the disk, he's chrooted in atm
[11:01] <dr_willis> rm -i  asks befor removeing
[11:01] <bodsda> dr_willis: will be kind of annoying for a dir with thousands of items :)
[11:01] <Ben64> it'd just be nice to know the directory
[11:01] <dr_willis> rm -i *      then hit y
[11:01] <Ben64> instead of doing it in /etc or something
[11:01] <bodsda> Ben64: tell me about it -- I've been asking for 20 mins
[11:01] <dr_willis> ;)
[11:02] <Ben64> oh well
[11:02] <lebdron> Hello. What's the right way to align SSD or flash drive partition? There are too many articles approaching this question in different ways. For example http://linux-howto-guide.blogspot.ru/2009/10/increase-usb-flash-drive-write-speed.html http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16776067 http://blog.oldcomputerjunk.net/2012/fixing-sluggish-write-performance-of-usb-flash-thumb-drives/ blogofterje.wordpress.com/2012/01/14/optimizing-
[11:02] <lebdron> fs-on-sd-card/
[11:02] <Ben64> lebdron: gparted
[11:02] <dr_willis> bbl.
[11:02] <Spiro> trying to install 12.04 server from usb keeps asking for CD
[11:02] <lebdron> Ben64, but it'll probably waste some space in the beginning
[11:02] <bodsda> Spiro: when?
[11:03] <Ben64> lebdron: yeah, between 0 and 1MB
[11:03] <Spiro> right after language select
[11:03] <fried0> Ok, I have deleted the files, and will now try rebooting, please wish me luck
[11:03] <bodsda> fried0: good luck
[11:04] <bodsda> Spiro: are you connected to the internet? Did it ask you about software sources?
[11:04] <Spiro> driving me mad
[11:04] <Spiro> yes connected
[11:04] <fried0> Ben64: My apologize BTW, I just don't understand why you care about the particularities of what kind of files I am removing and the names of the folders involved
[11:04] <neirpyc> fried0, i think it was more as a precaution
[11:05] <fried0> I may not be the expert that others here are, but I know as much as to know such doesn't matter
[11:05] <lebdron> Ben64, so it's the easy way. Is there an "interesting" way?
[11:05] <bodsda> fried0: actually, it does matter
[11:05] <fried0> if you enter it right, it doesnt
[11:05] <bodsda> Spiro: it's been a while since I did a server install (assume your using the server iso) but did it ask you about software sources?
[11:06] <fried0> bodsda: You think it matters if it is "recup_dir.1" or "recup_dir.2"?
[11:06] <Ben64> lebdron: you'd have to read those links you posted
[11:06] <Spiro> No I created a bootable usb install
[11:06] <Spiro> twice
[11:06] <bodsda> fried0: no, but it matters if you're not cd'd to the correct dir and we give you a relative path command instead of an absolute
[11:06] <lebdron> I did, they are all different, and I don't seem to follow which one is right.
[11:06] <bodsda> Spiro: 12.10?
[11:06] <dr_willis> there can be issues making a server usb ive seen.
[11:07] <l057c0d3r> hmm..  well come to find out.. after downloading and installing ubuntu/unity
[11:07] <DR01D-Engineer> what is the xchat command to delay connecting
[11:07] <fried0> bodsda: Well I was suppose to directly navigate to the folder anyway
[11:07] <l057c0d3r> it was not the gnome online accounts i was having a problem with after all
[11:07] <Spiro> 12.04
[11:07] <DR01D-Engineer> so that you can auto join rooms that require registration?
[11:07] <l057c0d3r> it is the ubuntu online accounts...
[11:07] <fried0> Ok, restarting and hoping
[11:07] <DR01D-Engineer> otherwise it dosn't join those rooms because it attempts to join them before logging you in
[11:07] <Ben64> lebdron: from a quick glance, they're all right
[11:07] <l057c0d3r> i guess the website url that it points to redirects or something..  causing it to show in a browser rather then the online accounts winodw..
[11:08] <l057c0d3r> i was able to get google to open in a browser..  after clicking on a link that would take me away from the login page..
[11:08] <l057c0d3r> that's where i get the redirect idea from
[11:08] <Spiro> there was a problem reading from the cd-rom blah blah blah
[11:08] <bodsda> Spiro: only info I can find is asking for a cd when installing packages after the install, not during
[11:08] <Ben64> Spiro: check md5 of iso and/or re-make the usb
[11:09] <l057c0d3r> wonder if there is a way i can edit the source of uoa.. or just edit the website it uses and have it to go m.facebook.com instead
[11:09] <l057c0d3r> since that would fix my issue
[11:09] <l057c0d3r> sigh.. i just want to be able to use empathy with facebook again
[11:09] <l057c0d3r> and after 5 fresh installs....  and a previous computer still working..  i know its the uoa.
[11:10] <Ben64> university of arizona?
[11:10] <l057c0d3r> ubuntu online account mangaer
[11:10] <bodsda> ubuntu on android?
[11:10] <bodsda> oh
[11:10] <Ben64> you can edit any source you want
[11:10] <Ben64> but thats beyond the scope of this channel
[11:11] <Shirakawasuna> l00pback: it's probably not what you want, but have you tried out pidgin / thunderbird? It's not going to fix your exact issue, bu tmay be just as functional
[11:11] <l057c0d3r> i guess the page it points to for facebook has changed in the last few days.... broke two days ago
[11:11] <l057c0d3r> i am able to add my facebook acount in the gnome-online-account mangaer.... however i can not get empathy to see them accounts
[11:11] <l057c0d3r> and havent even tried to get gwibber to see them....
[11:12] <bodsda> l057c0d3r: checked bug reports?
[11:12] <l057c0d3r> yep..  two other people in the last 13 horus posted the same bug.. no repsonse
[11:12] <l057c0d3r> which i under stand
[11:12] <neirpyc> i second trying another app. pidgin is great with all my chat accounts
[11:12] <bodsda> l057c0d3r: unless your going to debug and patch yourself, it looks like you'll have to wait
[11:12] <l057c0d3r> takes a min for them to go through and check everything anyway
[11:13] <neirpyc> i just wish ubuntu notifications could be clicked on
[11:13] <l057c0d3r> well already did the debuging.. not to patch
[11:13] <l057c0d3r> need to have it directed to m.facebook.com instead....
[11:13] <TLF> hello
[11:14] <l057c0d3r> any reconmendations on where to go to chat about patching the sourcde myself....
[11:14] <l057c0d3r> i know a bit about programming.. and changing a link should be simple enough.. heck fixing gwibber to work with facebook again was a walk in the park.. replace one line with three lines.. good to go
[11:15] <bodsda> l057c0d3r: contact the package maintainer or just download the source and have a crack
[11:15] <yown> .
[11:15] <baggis> hi there
[11:16] <baggis> first time user of ubuntu here :D
[11:16] <yown> Its me from before with the files that needed deleting, it worked! thankyou guys
[11:16] <bodsda> baggis: hi :)
[11:16] <baggis> looks great this but....i have a question
[11:16] <bodsda> yown: well done - glad it's fixed
[11:16] <l057c0d3r> right but if i patch it myself.. and then they fix it in the futre..  wont i be stuck with the old version? that i patched
[11:16] <bodsda> baggis: ask away
[11:17] <baggis> its looks like my wireless will not work...
[11:17] <l057c0d3r> heh sorry..  i programmed in windows..  never really had to deal with package mangaers ext
[11:17] <yown> With those files deleted, it booted just fine, I wonder why it wasn't giving me the permissions though
[11:17] <baggis> i have try to get som howtodo but im not understand it or im stubid :P
[11:17] <bodsda> l057c0d3r: yes, but then you just remove the package and reinstall -- or better still, submit your patch
[11:17] <yown> people thought it must have been corrupted system files, but clearly not
[11:18] <bodsda> yown: if the system had no free space, it may have been mounted ro
[11:18] <yown> bodsda: What is ro?
[11:18] <l057c0d3r> right right.... i would love to get involved in helping build the community.. still dont know why they havent patched gwibber with the fix for facebook yet......  it was a simple fix.. figured it would have got added by now
[11:18] <bodsda> yown: sorry, read only
[11:18] <bodsda> l057c0d3r: submit your patch then
[11:19] <yown> bodsda: Why would that be? Wouldn't a live USB not need the HDDs space at all?
[11:19] <l057c0d3r> look where to do that now bodsda
[11:19] <bodsda> yown: I wasn't around to see the specifics of mounting the drive, so can't say for sure
[11:20] <moitim> it's an english chan ?
[11:20] <bodsda> l057c0d3r: if you wrote a patch for a package and the bug still exists, then find the package on launchpad, find the related bug and upload your patch - it will then be reviewed, tested and implemented by the maintainers
[11:20] <bodsda> moitim: this one is, yes
[11:20] <yown> bodsda: Nothing to it, it just automounted when the usb flash drive live loaded
[11:21] <MonkeyDust> !english | moitim
[11:21] <moitim> ok thanks
[11:21] <l057c0d3r> heh k then i was looking in the right place
[11:21] <bodsda> yown: without seeing output from 'mount' or looking at fstab I can't say why it mounted read only
[11:23] <yown> Well, that was a lesson anyway, don't send files from data recover to the same partition your OS uses
[11:23] <bodsda> baggis: if you let the channel know what wifi card your using, what happens when you try to connect etc. then someone might be able to help
[11:23] <bodsda> yown: haha, yeah, don't fill your / :)
[11:23] <baggis> thanks well its not working at all i think ubuntu do not recognizing it....
[11:24] <baggis> 2 sec will see about what card this is
[11:25] <baggis> wireless tec is 802.11b/g WLAN
[11:25] <baggis> the computer are hp G5050E0
[11:26] <Ben64> baggis: pastebin the output of "lspci"
[11:26] <bodsda> baggis: can you open a terminal and use paste.ubunntu.com to paste the output of the command   lspci
[11:26] <baggis> sure
[11:26] <giuseppe_> ciao
[11:26] <bodsda> ubuntu*
[11:27] <baggis> copy only about the network info right :P
[11:27] <baggis> 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family SMBus Controller (rev 01)
[11:27] <baggis> 06:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)
[11:27] <baggis> 08:08.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139
[11:27] <FloodBot1> baggis: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:27] <bodsda> baggis: use   http://paste.ubuntu.com
[11:27] <baggis> oki sorry
[11:29] <baggis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5557828/
[11:29] <Seven_Six_Two> every time I start to play a flash video, my master volume goes down a bit, and pcm volume goes up. That's without touching it.
[11:29] <TLF> it's anyone having trouble with latest 3.5.0-25 kernel in 12.10 secuirty updates?
[11:30] <MonkeyDust> TLF  what kind of trouble?
[11:30] <bodsda> baggis: theres some info from someone who got that card working here - http://askubuntu.com/questions/38327/how-can-i-get-broadcom-bcm4311-wireless-working
[11:30] <baggis> thanks
[11:31] <bodsda> baggis: I've got to shoot off, but ask the channel if anything on that link doesn't make sense -- looks somewhat straight forward
[11:33] <yugandhar> Hi, I had "vesamenu.c32: not a COM32R image" error when trying to install the os through USB stick
[11:33] <yugandhar> please help me on this
[11:35] <MonkeyDust> yugandhar  have you used the md5 checksum? maybe the image is corrupted
[11:35] <Seven_Six_Two> is there a way to lock volume so that it can't be changed by a flash video starting?
[11:35] <Noorideen> my pc keeps turning off for no reason!
[11:35] <bodsda> Noorideen: there will be a reason
[11:36] <Seven_Six_Two> Noorideen, every time that happens to me, it's heat. When did you last blow the dust out of the video card and cpu heatsinks?
[11:36] <theadmin> Noorideen: Sounds like overheating or something like that.
[11:36] <theadmin> Seven_Six_Two: :)
[11:36] <yugandhar> MonkeyDust:  I didn't use md5 checksum and how can i do this?
[11:36] <MonkeyDust> !md5 | yugandhar
[11:36] <Noorideen> Seven_Six_Two, aegis ago!
[11:37] <Noorideen> i will clean it
[11:37] <Seven_Six_Two> Noorideen, temperature rises don't only cause that behaviour, but also shorten the life of the chips substantially.
[11:37] <k1l_> Noorideen: ask the mint support, while you are using mint.
[11:38] <Noorideen> k1l_, i am not using mint
[11:38] <k1l_> ok, you were the last times
[11:38] <Noorideen> yes now, but now i am using ubuntu :P.
[11:39] <k1l_> Noorideen: then show into the logs what happend before the pc shut down
[11:40] <k1l_> its not dmesg and syslog, but dmesg.0 ans syslog.1
[11:40] <Noorideen> k1l_, how can i show the logs?
[11:40] <k1l_> in /var/log
[11:40] <Noorideen> k
[11:40] <Seven_Six_Two> Noorideen, are you on the pc that shuts down?
[11:40] <Noorideen> Seven_Six_Two, yes
[11:40] <DJones> yugandhar: Which version of Ubuntu are you trying to install, I can see a bug listed for that with some version of ubuntu
[11:41] <yugandhar> 10.04.4 LTS amd64 bit os
[11:41] <k1l_> yugandhar: you are sure you want install 10.04? that support ends in april this year
[11:42] <MonkeyDust> yugandhar  10.04 will be !eol in a few weeks from now, better not struggle with it
[11:42] <DJones> yugandhar: This is from a Mint forum, but there's similar comments on the ubuntu forums, have a look at post 11 http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-mint-84/trying-to-boot-linux-mint-9-from-usb-flash-drive-vesamenu-c32-not-a-com32r-image-829397/
[11:42] <Seven_Six_Two> Noorideen, I wouldn't waste time with logs when you're risking overheating again, and heat won't show in logs
[11:43] <Noorideen> Seven_Six_Two, i will clean the dust right now
[11:43] <Jnfn> Hi there
[11:43] <Noorideen> Seven_Six_Two, thank you (:
[11:43] <Seven_Six_Two> Noorideen, np. computers are expensive
[11:43] <jdukiet> Can anyone recomend a good mp4/avi to dvd converter that I can find in the software center. I am new and still having trouble with apt-get installs?
[11:44] <Noorideen> Seven_Six_Two, true
[11:44] <Jnfn> I've an annoying problem with my ubuntu 12.04 machine
[11:44] <DJones> yugandhar: What version did you create the usb stick on? was it 10.10 or later
[11:44] <MonkeyDust> jdukiet  in a terminal, type avconv -i music.mp4 music.avi
[11:44] <Jnfn> is this the correct way to have support
[11:44] <Jnfn> ?
[11:44] <yugandhar> 10.04 LTS amd64 bit OS
[11:45] <k1l_> Jnfn: what problem?
[11:45] <MonkeyDust> yugandhar  10.04 is an old version, better install something newer
[11:45] <Seven_Six_Two> jdukiet, I like devede
[11:45] <Jnfn> wow ok mainly gksudo doesn't wor anymore
[11:45] <Jnfn> the sitation is this
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> jdukiet  disregard my comment
[11:46] <yugandhar> ok, But at least it should boot from USB stick.
[11:46] <k1l_> jdukiet: devede is an easy to use program
[11:46] <Jnfn> I use gnome shell with gnome 3 ppa and qseries lts backport ppa
[11:46] <DJones> yugandhar: This one of the threads on the ubuntu forum http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1593656 There's a couple of suggestions in that which may help as well
[11:47] <yugandhar> Here the problem is why it is not booting from USB stick when i tried to create a  bootable USB stick with the Os 10.04 LTS
[11:47] <Seven_Six_Two> Jnfn, can you open a terminal and run gksudo manually?
[11:47] <Jnfn> I've laready checked everything n forums and so on
[11:47] <yugandhar> Let me try it DJones
[11:48] <Jnfn> yeah it opens the box for passwd and then
[11:48] <Jnfn> it print cannot open display
[11:48] <dr_willis> !10.4
[11:48] <Jnfn> or even just silently do nothing
[11:48] <dr_willis> silly bot
[11:48] <Jnfn> for example
[11:49] <Seven_Six_Two> Jnfn, have you been messing with display variables or something like ssh or Xnest?
[11:49] <Jnfn> no
[11:49] <Jnfn> nothing of that
[11:49] <Seven_Six_Two> Jnfn, you're on a local machine, and not a text tty?
[11:50] <Jnfn> exactly
[11:50] <Seven_Six_Two> Jnfn, in other words, you currently have a gui?
[11:50] <Jnfn> yed yes
[11:50] <Seven_Six_Two> Jnfn, do you have a multi-head setup?
[11:51] <Jnfn> no just mine account, if I understand well
[11:51] <Jnfn> your question
[11:51] <Seven_Six_Two> Jnfn, in a terminal, what does "echo $DISPLAY" without quotes, return? Multi-head is more than one display.
[11:52] <Seven_Six_Two> Jnfn, multi-seat might be what you're thinking of.
[11:52] <Jnfn> :0
[11:53] <baggis> hi again reboot the system now and hope i fix the wireless now :D thanks again
[11:53] <yugandhar> Djones: Actually i made a bootable usb stick with 10.04 LTS amd64 bit on ubuntu 11.10 Desktop . is it incompatible?
[11:54] <histo> MonkeyDust: 10.04 is still supported
[11:54] <Ben64> not for long
[11:54] <Sterk> hi I have no unity 3d with ubuntu 12.10 even if I do all this. look on the pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5557881/
[11:54] <DJones> yugandhar: That looks like where the issue is, the usb creator in 10.10 & afterwards has problems creating 10.04 versions
[11:54] <Seven_Six_Two> Jnfn, what are you trying to run with gksudo?
[11:54] <Jnfn> there's another strange behaviour like the graphical update manager doesn't ask me a password for updating the system
[11:54] <histo> !lts | Ben64
[11:54] <Ben64> Jnfn: working as intended
[11:55] <Ben64> histo: yes i'm quite aware
[11:55] <Jnfn> everything like gksudo gedit or gksudo nautilus or unetbootin
[11:55] <Ben64> Jnfn: what?
[11:56] <Seven_Six_Two> Jnfn, does "gedit" or "sudo gedit" work properly?
[11:56] <Jnfn> with gksudo gedit it says "cannot open display" with gksudo nautilus and unetbootin it just do anything after the box with passwd is prompted
[11:56] <twovs> any body can see my chat?
[11:56] <histo> Seven_Six_Two: How woudl a multihead display effect gksu?
[11:56] <Jnfn> no even sudo gedit it's not working
[11:57] <Seven_Six_Two> Jnfn, what's the output when you try that?
[11:57] <Sterk> Any one?
[11:57] <histo> Jnfn: What groups is your user in?
[11:57] <Seven_Six_Two> histo, the error is about displays, so the answer would be "many ways"
[11:57] <Jnfn> "cannot open display" but sudo nano works
[11:57] <Jnfn> for example
[11:58] <histo> How does root not have permision to :0
[11:58] <histo> Jnfn: So sudo xclock
[11:58] <histo> fails right?
[11:58] <Seven_Six_Two> Jnfn, ok, so you can sudo, but not a gui. do you get errors starting gedit without root privs from terminal?
[11:58] <baggis> thanks that work just fine :D
[11:58] <Jnfn> histo every groups of an admin acoount
[11:59] <histo> Jnfn: does sudo xclock fail?
[11:59] <Jnfn> sst, no errors startig gedit without root privs
[12:00] <Jnfn> histo yes it fails
[12:00] <histo> Sterk: Wow that script has horrible english and needs fixed.  What ar eyou trying to do?
[12:00] <Ben64> Jnfn: echo $DISPLAY
[12:00] <histo> Ben64: it's :0
[12:00] <Ben64> :0 or :0.0
[12:00] <histo> he said :0 earlier
[12:00] <Seven_Six_Two> Jnfn, did you change your hostname?
[12:01] <Ben64> shouldn't be just :0
[12:01] <Jnfn> no I didn't
[12:01] <Jnfn> Ben64 it's just :0
[12:01] <dr_willis>  echo $DISPLAY
[12:01] <dr_willis> :0
[12:01] <dr_willis> is all i get here
[12:01] <Ben64> weird
[12:02] <histo> :0 here
[12:02] <Jnfn> every xorg package is now under -lts-quantal name
[12:02] <Ben64> Jnfn: DISPLAY=:0 gksudo xeyes
[12:02] <Sterk> histo, I want to run unity 3d, I remenber geforce go 7400/7300 was blacklisted under 11.10 and 12.04 so people ended up with Unity 2D. How can I run Unity 3D or how should I do command line gives correct answer. Opensource nouveau driver under Unity for my card works really crappy.
[12:02] <Jnfn> I mean an update some days ago changed all xorg packages
[12:03] <Ben64> Sterk: you probably don't want unity 3d with that video card
[12:03] <Jnfn> ben64, silently fail
[12:04] <Sterk> Ben64, why? Kwin works perfect with all desktop effects.
[12:04] <Jnfn> like gksudo nautilus
[12:04] <histo> Sterk: Do you not want to install nvidia drivers from the repos?
[12:05] <cdavis> In the auth.log, what does p[8] mean in this line? u[sally], d[], p[8]
[12:06] <histo> Sterk: aparently whatever driver is blacklisted according to the that script.
[12:06] <Sterk> histo, I did and then added x-swat
[12:06] <Ben64> GeForce Go 7400 gets a score of 61 passmarks, about half the performance of a geforce fx 5900
[12:06] <Ben64> to compare to something in this decade, a gtx 550 ti gets 1920 passmarks
[12:06] <Sterk> histo, how can I remove the blacklisted?
[12:07] <Sterk> Like I said kwin and all desktop effects works smooth, with Ubuntu without closed source nvidia drivers it is crap
[12:07] <histo> Sterk: did you restart after installing your driver?
[12:07] <twovs>  黑底白色 红色的字
[12:07] <Sterk> histo, yes.
[12:08] <jdukiet> MonkeyDust: Thank you
[12:08] <Seven_Six_Two> Jnfn, can you install kdesudo and try that? or maybe xdg-su
[12:09] <Jnfn> I'll try xdg-su maybe has less dependencies
[12:09] <histo> Sterk: I'm sure there is a reason it's blacklisted but you can check /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[12:09] <k1l_> !cn | twovs
[12:10] <histo> k1l_: How can you tell he's typing in chinese
[12:10] <jdukiet> Seven_Six_Two:  Yeah, I am trying that out now. Thanks
[12:11] <Jnfn> there's no xdg-su
[12:11] <Sterk> histo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5557904/
[12:11] <fego> histo: you have online translators, :)
[12:11] <babilen> Just a note about your cn factoid: It uses traditional characters that are not necessarily understood by Chinese people. They are commonly used in Taiwan and Hongkong though, but people from China might have problems reading it.
[12:11] <histo> Sterk: what module is currently loaded for your card?
[12:12] <babilen> Let me know if you need help to change it to simplified characters.
[12:12] <Jnfn> ok it's in xdg-utils
[12:12] <Jnfn> ?
[12:12] <Sterk> histo, lsmod?
[12:12] <histo> Sterk: lspci -k
[12:12] <k1l_> babilen: can you explain that in #ubuntu-ops ?
[12:12] <Jnfn> no it's not
[12:13] <Sterk> histo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5557908/
[12:14] <Jnfn> kdesudo requires half of kde!!
[12:14] <babilen> k1l_: Sure, no problem.
[12:14] <Jnfn> how to get xdg-su?
[12:14] <ikonia> is there such a thing ?
[12:14] <dr_willis> !find xdg-su
[12:14] <histo> Sterk: You are using the nvidia driver does unity not work?
[12:14] <dr_willis> i dont think there is a xdg-su command
[12:16] <Jnfn> I don't think too there's no xdg-su command
[12:16] <maemo900> hi guys. need some help. im gonna to download iso of ubuntu(ubuntu.12.04.amd64.iso),its ok im downloading,but there are also file like ubuntu.12.04.amd64.list/metalink/manifest - is they are needed?and what they are - also will read with great pleasure links given from u :)
[12:17] <jdukiet> ok, so while I have someones ear, maybe you can answer something else. I used the my unity config app to tweak my theme. problem is when I reboot the machine, my clock and username disasappear from the desktop. I am still able to select them, they are just not visable. I'm running 12.04 LTS
[12:17] <Sterk> histo, Unity works :), but command line /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p says Unity 3D supported:       no
[12:17] <histo> maemo900: nope you just need the iso. You can verify it with md5sum after it's downloaded and compare to the md5 hash on the website
[12:18] <histo> Sterk: Perhaps there are errors in the script?  Who knows you'd have to look at it and see what it's doing to find out why.
[12:18] <Spiro> got it to install, thanks for the help
[12:18] <nearst> hii
[12:18] <histo> Sterk: actually it's a binary file
[12:19] <Jnfn> is there another way to debug?
[12:19] <aarfer> how come openssh instructions say to rename id_rsa to authorized_keys?   what is the point of adding your own priv key to the authorized ones?
[12:19] <histo> Sterk: I would look at filing a bug. I'm not sure why it's reporting blacklisted when it isn't.
[12:19] <Spiro> thanks bodsda and Ben64
[12:19] <maemo900> histo, im downloading from ubuntu site, is there need to check with md5 &
[12:19] <maemo900> ?
[12:20] <histo> maemo900: yes to confirm your download is correct and isn't messed upl.
[12:20] <Spiro> I had to edit the md5
[12:20] <Sterk> histo, maybe I should, I want :) better experience with 13.04.
[12:21] <maemo900> histo ok, thanx a lot
[12:21] <Jnfn> for example pkexec works smothley
[12:21] <histo> Sterk: aare you using 13.04 now?
[12:21] <Jnfn> for the programs it was intended to
[12:22] <Sterk> histo, no, 12.10
[12:22] <histo> Sterk: Well the app works here as expected but I have a different card.
[12:22] <Sterk> histo, is it possible to make the icon-size 30?
[12:22] <dr_willis> Sterk:  which icons?
[12:22] <Jnfn> but if I try pkexec gedit it says cannot open display
[12:23] <Sterk> dr_willis, unity-launcher icon-size or launcher-size
[12:23] <dr_willis> Sterk:  the left side panel icons can go from 36 to 24 i recall.
[12:23] <dr_willis> one of the setting tools or tweak tools has a slider
[12:24] <Sterk> dr_willis, I have unity tweak tool
[12:24] <Sterk> :( I cannot
[12:24] <Jnfn> it's pretty weird
[12:24] <dr_willis> ubuntu-tweak
[12:24] <dr_willis> dosent even run here.. unsettings has the same setting
[12:25] <dr_willis> slider from 32 to 64
[12:25] <Sterk> dr_willis, should I try unsetting instead or will it give me same result has unity-tweak-tool?
[12:25] <histo> Sterk: system settings > appearance adjust the slider at the bottom.
[12:25] <dr_willis> how could i know that.. ;)
[12:26] <Sterk> histo, yes only 32 :).
[12:26] <dr_willis> unity-tweak-tool also fails to run for me
[12:26] <dr_willis> Sterk:  the min is 32
[12:27] <dr_willis> so guess you cant do it
[12:27] <Sterk> dr_willis, :( damn I want smaller then 32
[12:27] <dr_willis> Sterk:  check askubuntu.com there might be a gconf setting.
[12:27] <dr_willis> i dont see how 2 pixles matter
[12:28] <Sterk> dr_willis, :) help me find it, I have google but not found anything useful.
[12:30] <Pinuccia> !list
[12:32] <Sterk> dr_willis, I have looked to ccsm and also there 32 is min.
[12:32] <Applesouce> Hello, I have a small problem that I can't fix. I have a notebook with Ubuntu 12.10 and my Wireless LAN stopped working. It connects to my Router and it says "Connection Established" but I have no network or internet access (I can not even ping my router). The site of my router says, the Notebook is a DHCP-Client, so the router is recognizing my Notebook. The Wireless LAN works on other places, so when I go to my university, eve
[12:33] <Applesouce> Also my other devices work quite good
[12:34] <stefisabri> hi
[12:35] <stefisabri> !list
[12:35] <spongetims> Hello, I run aptitude upgrade and after a couple of minutes I got following message: Current status: 69 updates [-1228].
[12:35] <stefisabri> ok, tks
[12:36] <spongetims> Where  can I identify the number -1228
[12:37] <johnsmith> Hello. Does Ubuntu include arp* or a similar security measure to prevent arp poisoning?
[12:38] <jrib> spongetims: aptitude assigns a "score" to the action it wants to take.  That may be it.  Let me see if I can find it in the manual
[12:38] <Applesouce> Is there nobody that could help me with my problem :(
[12:39] <jrib> !helpme
[12:39] <Jnfn> I guess no other clues
[12:40] <spongetims> jrib: What do you mean by score? Number of successfully updated packages?
[12:41] <jrib> spongetims: no, aptitude has an algorithm it uses to assign a number for the action it wants to take
[12:41] <jrib> spongetims: there are lots of related configuration options talked about here: http://www.algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s04s05.html
[12:44] <melodie> hi
[12:44] <Jnfn> ok anyway thanks to Seven_six_two histo and Ben64 for the effort
[12:44] <melodie> could someone review a short README and tell me if all ok and understandable, please ?
[12:45] <melodie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5557932
[12:45] <jrib> aarfer: what directions are y ou referring to?
[12:45] <jrib> melodie: what do you actually want to accomplish?
[12:46] <spongetims> jrib: thanks.
[12:46] <melodie> I have modified this text which is a readme, and I am not english native, so I would like someone being natively talking english to review it, please. :)
[12:47] <jrib> melodie: ##english might be more helpful
[12:47] <melodie> jrib I didn't know. this is a short text. do they know linux at ##english ?
[12:48] <melodie> jrib it is supposed to make sense to someone who also knows Linux at least as an average user
[12:48] <jrib> melodie: they might not know linux, but they should be able to critique your grammar and word choice for example
[12:49] <melodie> there are only a few lines, wouldn't you take a look ?
[12:49] <melodie> jrib never mind, I just asked to a buddy on the #unitylinux chan
 aarfer: what directions are y ou referring to?         i said that. wrong, i meant the ....pub file. but i understand it now. thanks though.
[12:55] <jrib> aarfer: no problem, glad you figured it out
[13:04] <santosh> Can I change linux username once I created it?
[13:04] <pendekar-galau> !info elforkane
[13:06] <Jnfn> another info
[13:06] <Jnfn> I'm in unity 2d now
[13:06] <ronalds_m> I removed empathy, on/away and other things still show on in indicator applet, can I remove them?
[13:06] <metaphysician> Where on Earth does ircd-hybrid log by default? Where should I touch for it to start logging?
[13:06] <ronalds_m> (envelope icon)
[13:07] <Jnfn> and when I tipe gksudo gedit for example, i have a black screen with just the graphical passwd box and then the always cannot open disply
[13:07] <cristian_c> Hi
[13:07] <llutz> metaphysician: "man ircd-hybrid"  (-logfile foo)
[13:08] <cristian_c> I can't browse from my android device via bluetooth
[13:08] <cristian_c> s/from/
[13:08] <cristian_c> I've found 'Browse Files on Device'
[13:08] <cristian_c> but I get an error
[13:10] <ronalds_m> "I removed empathy, on/away and other things still show on in indicator applet, can I remove them?"
[13:10] <ubuntu607> hello, myy ubuntu install hangs on question install 3rd apps and install updates during install
[13:10] <jdukiet> Seven_Six_Two: DeVeDe worked out perfect ! Thank you!
[13:10] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[13:10] <ronalds_m> ubuntu607 what exactly hangs?
[13:11] <ronalds_m> ubuntu607 you push the button and it hangs?
[13:11] <ubuntu607> the round loading bar keeps turning
[13:11] <ronalds_m> then try not pushing them..
[13:11] <ubuntu607> the os itself does not hang
[13:13] <metaphysician> llutz: and where is userlog and operlog?
[13:13] <ubuntu607> i need to push next to install the os, thats the problem
[13:15] <dryhay> hi. there is something wrong with my ibus. could someone check it, please: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2116673
[13:15] <excito> Good day. I was wondering whether it's possible to install ubuntu from within a linux system(elementary OS). I would like to wipe off elementary os completaly,leaving only ubuntu in the process. Asking since I don't have access to usb or live cd atm. Thank you
[13:17] <ronalds_m> excito probably you can't, you can only get unity packages on top of the system, I guess
[13:18] <ubuntu607> any idea?
[13:18] <melodie> excito I know of a solution
[13:18] <TheGrey> o/
[13:18] <TheGrey> I have a M-audio 2496. In pavucontrol with ICE 1712 selected, I see the input volume jump up and down. But I here no audio..What can I do?
[13:18] <excito> please melodie
[13:18] <excito> would be much appreciated
[13:18] <melodie> excito you could plugin your hard drive to another machine to make the install
[13:19] <melodie> excito and perhaps one more
[13:19] <melodie> do you have only one primary partition, or more ?
[13:19] <metaphysician> And how can run ircd-hybrid (installed from repos) as normal user?
[13:19] <excito> ah,not an option unfortunately. I am pretty isolated with only my pc here melodie :D. Any chance it would be possible to transfer the ubuntu iso to another partition and then somehow boot off it?
[13:20] <excito> melodie,only one atm.
[13:20] <Styler2go> Hey Guys :) I have a Problem with my Server. It seems that some ips are spamming my server and i want to kick ip that have more than a specific amount of requests per minute.. how could i do that?
[13:20] <melodie> excito if you have only one partition there is no solution
[13:20] <excito> melodie,can I create another partition somehow?
[13:20] <melodie> if you have an iso inside and boot to it, then if you format the hard drive you will not be able to use the iso you booted from anymore
[13:21] <melodie> excito you can if you have a usb boot or cd boot, or pxe boot then you would need another machine
[13:22] <melodie> excito you might want to try to boot from a Parted Magic iso, if you know how to make a boot from iso.
[13:22] <Styler2go> where could i ask to get help?
[13:22] <ubuntu607> so if i hit next, ubuntu doesnt go further
[13:22] <excito> melodie,know idea. Would using gparted and creating another partition help?
[13:23] <melodie> excito if then Parted magic installs itself to ram, and if the machine has more than 512 MB ram...
[13:23] <excito> no idea*
[13:23] <melodie> excito you can't format partitions which are mounted.
[13:23] <excito> 3gb ddr3,but the video card also shares the ram
[13:23] <excito> I see.
[13:23] <quince> When updating using update-manager, I'm getting a hash sum mismatch on http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-image-3.2.0-38-generic_3.2.0-38.61_amd64.deb .  Same on gb.archive.ubuntu.com .  Is it just me?
[13:23] <guang> when i type win-c,i want to it effects like typing ctrl-c.how can i do?
[13:23] <melodie> this would distroy the content, this is why you are in front of a "no-go" unless you can get all the content of an ISO in the RAM
[13:24] <SanePerson> LOL
[13:24] <melodie> excito look at Parted Magic if you can find a way to boot it to ram from an iso. this is the only method I see that could help you get out of trouble
[13:24] <excito> would it suceed,melodie? Currently elementary os is very buggy and boots 1 time out of three,but it's something,than not booting at all
[13:25] <Styler2go> how can i tar multiple directories in one tar?
[13:25] <melodie> if so, you could make a new primary partition, or two, and work from there to install a ubuntu distro
[13:25] <excito> I see. Thank you very much melodie, I will look into it and hopefully come up with something. Much appreciated
[13:25] <melodie> excito I didn't say it would succeed, I said it is the only possibility you can explore as you don't have media to start a distro from cdrom or usb stick
[13:25] <turffy> hi, I'm using 12.04 and I'm trying to open a xls file using gnumeric seem that its not opening the file but I'm sure file is not corrupted is there a way I can see the log for for the application or any suggestion how to debug it?
[13:26] <m3t4lukas> hey guys, mysql server does not start on startup. I already did 'update-rc.d mysql defaults'
[13:26] <quince> Styler2go: tar cf foobar.tar foo/ bar/
[13:26] <TheGrey> o/ I have a M-audio 2496. In pavucontrol with ICE 1712 selected, I see the input volume jump up and down. But I here no audio..What can I do?
[13:26] <TheGrey>  
[13:26] <maman_> hi ,, help me please
[13:26] <excito> on the other hand,melodie. Would having a 1gb usb stick work? In that case,I suppose it wouldn't be too costly to buy one
[13:27] <Styler2go> thanks
[13:27] <ubuntu607> anyone help?
[13:27] <baggis> is there any tips and triks to make ubuntu faster on a old hp laptop ? :D
[13:27] <MonkeyDust> baggis  yes, moment
[13:28] <melodie> excito check your bios gui boot section and see if it is likely to boot from USB ? sometimes it's in the "hard drive" section and you have to have a usb stick inserted to see the usb stick ready to boot
[13:28] <yeats> baggis: you'd need to find out what's slowing it down
[13:28] <MonkeyDust> baggis  first this, but there's more http://howto.wired.com/wiki/Speed_Up_Linux
[13:29] <excito> thanks melodie. Will do so and hopefully that'll work. Much appreciated
[13:29] <baggis> thanks i must say this irc chatroom replay fast :D good job all
[13:29] <MonkeyDust> baggis  picked this up in this channel http://paste.ubuntu.com/5558101/
[13:30] <ubuntu607> anyone?
[13:31] <SanePerson> i don't get it. why is this the fullest channel on freenode
[13:31] <baggis> that last one was hard to understand for me, im a rooke :P
[13:31] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu607  start with a question
[13:31] <quince> ubuntu607: I missed your question
[13:31] <ubuntu607> ah
[13:31] <ivan__> о
[13:32] <ivan__> abe-data
[13:32] <ubuntu607> my problem is that ubuntu hangs of stops doing the installation, after i hit next on the screen install 3rd party app and updates (with the screen connected to internet ect)
[13:32] <MonkeyDust> baggis  sudo -e /etc/sysctl.conf    then copy/paste the lines from pastebin in it
[13:32] <ubuntu607> of = or
[13:32] <baggis> thanks
[13:33] <guang> ctrl-c can interupt a running program,how to change ctlr-c to win-c?
[13:33] <marjinal1st> hi, how can i create a new notebook in tomboy?
[13:33] <AbhiK> MonkeyDust, how do i connect this channel http://paste.ubuntu.com/5558101/ ??
[13:34] <MonkeyDust> AbhiK  not sure what you mean, it's not a channel
[13:34] <AbhiK> u said so!
 baggis  picked this up in this channel http://paste.ubuntu.com/5558101/
[13:35] <baggis> someone is trolling here :P
[13:35] <MonkeyDust> AbhiK  'this channel' is the one we are in now, #ubuntu
[13:36] <AbhiK> sorry i'm just a starter
[13:36] <marjinal1st> how can i create a new notebook in tomboy?
[13:37] <ubuntu607> get the question?
[13:37] <bool> I have installed openssh-server and have set up port-forwarding correctly on my router, but when I try to connect with ssh from an extern computer, I get "Connection refused"
[13:38] <bool> I have tried googling the connection refused message, but I just get stupid suggestions as installing the ssh server and disabling firewall.
[13:38] <yeats> bool: can you ssh to the machine from within your LAN?
[13:38] <odra> Hey
[13:39] <odra> What is this "odra@Desktop" that shows in the terminal?
[13:39] <odra> Anyway to change it?
[13:39] <bool> yeats, yes, i can
[13:40] <DJones> odra: The "odra" is your user name and the "Desktop" is the name you gave the machine during installation
[13:40] <yeats> odra: see this: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-linux-unix-bash-shell-setup-prompt.html there are many many more pages like it
[13:40] <bool> yeats, I have configured ssh to use a different port than 22. is it possible that the router still blocks ssh connections?
[13:40] <odra> DJones: That sounds awkward.
[13:40] <yeats> bool: then I would consult your router's documentation for troubleshooting
[13:40] <odra> If I named my machine "desktop" I would have desktop atop of a desktop
[13:41] <yeats> bool: yes - your router might not be able to configure alternate ssh, but that's why I would direct you to the docs for your router
[13:41] <ubuntu607> and?
[13:41] <bool> yeats, hmm ok, thanks
[13:42] <yeats> !hostname | odra
[13:42] <SanePerson> du schwein! dir schenk ich reinen wein ein
[13:44] <opr> how can i tell what is making my mouse/keyboard/wm lag? iotop is only showing me disk usage and that's not the cause
[13:46] <ubuntu607> ?
[13:47] <quince> ubuntu607: what do you mean by "the screen connected to internet"?
[13:48] <ubuntu607> install boots up.. then choose language, then you see screen to install ubuntu..
[13:49] <ubuntu607> the one with connected to internet, enough hd space.. 3rd party software.. install update during install ect
[13:49] <ubuntu607> click next... ubuntu stops
[13:50] <opr> leave it for a while it takes some time
[13:50] <ubuntu607> doesnt work
[13:50] <opr> how long have you waited
[13:50] <yeats> ubuntu607: do you have external drives attached?
[13:50] <ubuntu607> 2 hours
[13:50] <ubuntu607> wth xubuntu
[13:50] <ubuntu607> 2 hour with lubuntu
[13:50] <ubuntu607> 20 mintues with ubuntu
[13:51] <yeats> ubuntu607: the *buntus are all the same in this regard, so that shouldn't make a difference
[13:51] <ubuntu607> no external drives attached, expect the pendrive with the ubuntu install files
[13:51] <yeats> ubuntu607: can you look at /var/log/syslog to see if there are any message about it?
[13:51] <melodie> may I ?
[13:51] <yeats> melodie: eh?
[13:52] <melodie> ubuntu607 is the network working ? Could you boot to the live session and check with a ping ?
[13:52] <melodie> yeats lately under some circumstances I met with issues related to resolv.conf and I had to create one by hand
[13:52] <ubuntu607> internet/network is working in all buntus, live mode also
[13:53] <melodie> ubuntu607 all versions ?
[13:53] <quince> ubuntu607: how did you verify that?
[13:53] <ubuntu607> all versions i mentioned i mean, xubuntu 12.10, xubuntu 12.04 alternate, ubuntu 12.10 and lubuntu 12.10
[13:54] <yeats> melodie: ok - I was just thrown by "may I?" ;-)
[13:54] <hero616> you can install it more quickly without internet connect
[13:54] <melodie> yeats no problem
[13:54] <melodie> hero616 +1
[13:55] <laboratorio45> ciao
[13:55] <quince> ubuntu607: I don't use the graphical installer and I'm not sure what stage it failed at.  Still, you may be able to switch to a virtual terminal with ctrl-alt-<press a low-numberred function key> .  Hit return and you'll get a shell (command prompt) if you're lucky.  Then you may have a chroot (google it) or a half-done install, and people here may be able to guide you to finding out what went wrong.
[13:56] <yeats> quince: no need for all that to find out what went wrong - syslog should tell you that
[13:56] <schlitzer> hey all, i want to enable tcp listen for libvirt. but it seems when i add "--listen" to libvirtd_opt in /etc/init/libvirt-bin.conf it is ignored
[13:56] <ubuntu607> when i did the alternate install of 12.04 It also stops installing after choosing language
[13:56] <ubuntu607> that was a non gui install
[13:56] <schlitzer> is this the wrong way to do this in ubuntu?
[13:57] <hero616> bypass the update process
[13:57] <schlitzer> libvirt itself is configured correctly. if i start libvirt manually with "libvirtd -d --listen" the tcp port is opened
[14:01] <quince> ubuntu607: I'm not saying the gui install is the cause.  Just that I'm not sure where your install failed.
[14:02] <quince> yeats: if the GUI is hung, how do you see syslog?
[14:02] <_JuJuBee> I can't get my dhcp server (isc-dhcp-server) to start.   syslog shows..  http://pastebin.com/HgpuSfmp
[14:02] <quince> yeats: does the GUI show you syslog, in fact?
[14:03] <_JuJuBee> I have set eth1 in /etc/default/isc-dhcp-server as the listen interface and have a subnet in my dhcpd.conf file
[14:03] <mark_dlt> Hi all, Im new to this IRC chat, but I have made a switch from Microsoft to Ubuntu Linux and I like it.
[14:04] <quince> mark_dlt: myself, I hate all computers ;-) but at least Ubuntu is relatively free
[14:05] <mark_dlt> yes and the other thing to that is what microsoft are doing to there Office suit
[14:05] <MonkeyDust> mark_dlt  this is the support channel, maybe you ant to join #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:05] <MonkeyDust> want*
[14:05] <quince> the old days of the frontier when men were real men are gone though.  I no longer have to rewire my mouse for middle click  to work...
[14:05] <mark_dlt> ok
[14:05] <mark_dlt> sorry
[14:07] <Styler2go> what does ipconntrack tell me?
[14:08] <_JuJuBee> Anyone help with dhcp server?
[14:08] <SanePerson> adhd means insane. i'm here to convert you all to sane
[14:08] <MonkeyDust> SanePerson  stop spawning random comments
[14:08] <quince> for all those of you eagerly hanging on for the solution to the problem I came on here with: it turned out I apt-cacher-ng was caching a bad file, causing the checksum mismatch.  I stopped using apt-cacher-ng, and my  update now works.  I think there are known race conditions in the archive system that caused the bad file.
[14:09] <yeats> quince: unless the gui is truly hung, you can either open a terminal emulator or do Ctrl-Alt-F1(through F6) to get to a tty
[14:09] <SanePerson> MonkeyDust: i can't
[14:10] <sampleee> problem with evolution here. whenever a mail that consists of html is beeing displayed, evolution asks me to accept the ssl certificate. those certificates are allways declared as "bad".
[14:10] <quince> yeats: right.  I guess I wasn't clear: that was what I was trying to suggest doing.  I didn't know that in the GUI installer you could just start a terminal emulator though -- nice!
[14:11] <yeats> quince: Ctrl-Alt-T will do it
[14:12] <quince> _JuJuBee: did I miss your dhcpd.conf pastebin?  I only see the syslog
[14:13] <ikonia> _JuJuBee: please don't cross post your questions, you know this
[14:14] <nearst> sup ppl
[14:19] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[14:21] <Squid_> ¡
[14:22] <jeaton> anytime I minimize xchat to the tray, the program disappears completely from my desktop, but the process continues to run
[14:22] <jeaton> it's not a zombie process by any means, anyway, is there anyway of pulling up that process in ubuntu?
[14:24] <spajderix> Hi
[14:25] <aarfer> jeaton,  did you try the ol command ps ax | grep xchat
[14:25] <aarfer> spajderix,  1757 people in here aren't gonna be saying 'hi' back to ya...
[14:25] <aarfer> heh
[14:26] <Azert> 1757 people?
[14:26] <opr> that's how many users were in the channel
[14:27] <Azert> not to mention people that read irc log from email
[14:27] <opr> what are you on about mate
[14:28] <dryhay> hi. there is something wrong with my ibus sometimes. could someone check it, please: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2116673
[14:28] <Azert> the hole world is here potentially
[14:28] <Azert> whole*
[14:28] <BluesKaj> whole world
[14:28] <roasted> Did Ubuntu remove the little X for closing windows when you're viewing them in the overview/thumbnail mode? Or am I just somehow missing them? (12.04)
[14:29] <opr> azert yes, but they aren't in realtime
[14:30] <Azert> so how many useres are here in reall time?
[14:30] <opr> 1759
[14:30] <[deXter]> 42
[14:30] <Azert> not if they are afk
[14:31] <opr> they might come back at any second and see it though
[14:31] <bekks> That doesnt make them non-real users.
[14:31] <Azert> sure
[14:32] <Azert> more likelly half a dozen people and the rest irc bots
[14:32] <roasted> When you have multiple windows of the same type open and you click that icon more than once in the unity bar, it goes into taht gnome shell oriented overview mode. Does that have an official name?
[14:32] <bekks> Azert: Do you have a specific Ubuntu related support question?
[14:32] <Azert> do you have one bekks ?
[14:33] <roasted> Azert: this channel is for Ubuntu support, where people either ask questions or help others by answering questions.
[14:33] <jeaton> aarfer, what do I do after that
[14:33] <Azert> ho really
[14:33] <bekks> !ot | Azert
[14:34] <Azert> i thought it was for finding details about the users
[14:34] <opr> please don't be silly azert
[14:34] <roasted> Help me out here.. was I supposed to laugh?
[14:35] <OerHeks> jeaton, maybe this answer is any help >>> http://askubuntu.com/questions/157966/where-is-x-chat-when-it-is-minimized-to-tray
[14:35] <Kroach> roasted: it's the Compiz scale effect, it's not related to gnome shell at all
[14:36] <roasted> Kroach: I see. Now there's supposed to be a close icon (X) over top of each window that you hover over when in that mode, is there not?
[14:36]  * Azert handles roasted a nextpress0
[14:36] <roasted> Azert: I'm not good at the online pretending thing, but thanks.
[14:37] <jeaton> OerHeks, no help, i found that awhile back and it doesnt show up in the message indicator, even if I do install the plugin
[14:37] <Kroach> roasted: I don't think the 'x' was there, it's in gnome shell activities overview which looks similar
[14:37] <jeaton> now when I install the plugin, I have xchat in the indicator at all times, but it opens up a new process each time I click it
[14:38] <roasted> Kroach: are you on Unity right now?
[14:38] <spajderix> I'm using ubu 12.10. Trying to add fb account to empathy chat. Window opens up saying Please authorize Ubuntu to use facebook account. Nothing happens in that window after that and a webpage gets opened in firefox saying only Success. Does anybody know how to fix this?
[14:39] <Kroach> roasted: I'm normally using Unity on my pc, now I'm on my phone
[14:39] <jeaton> anyway, I accepted it's a bug and it won't appear in my tray bar or message indicator
[14:40] <jeaton> but is there anyway I can open up the process
[14:40] <Kroach> roasted: you may want to check scale plugin settings in ccsm to see if the option you want is there
[14:41] <roasted> Kroach: I just fired up my desktop (also 12.04) and I don't see the close button there either. Perhaps I had been mistaking the entire time?
[14:42] <otak> spajderix: someone was here earlier with the same problem, seems like facebook have changed their authentication address or something
[14:42] <roasted> Kroach: it was this sort of view in Unity I thought each window had an X in the corner, for what it's worth - http://www.dedoimedo.com/images/computers_new_2/gnome-shell-multiple.jpg
[14:43] <yeats> roasted: it does in 12.10, but not 12.04
[14:43] <L3top> !info i965-va-driver > ikonia
[14:43] <roasted> yeats: is that due to different Unity versions from 04 to 10?
[14:43] <yeats> roasted: although it also does in gnome shell (which is what your screenshot is)
[14:44] <Kroach> roasted: this screenshot is from an early version of gnome shell
[14:44] <roasted> Kroach: I know. I was just bringing it up for comparison so it was understood what I was referring to.
[14:44] <yeats> roasted: I don't know specifically, but I would guess so
[14:44] <roasted> yeats: I wonder if it's possible to get in 12.04... I'm hanging on to 12.04 for quite a while :/
[14:44] <yeats> roasted: I would just upgrade to 12.10 if it were me
[14:45] <roasted> yeats: not on work systems...
[14:45]  * yeats does so on work systems too
[14:45] <roasted> yeats: I'd sacrifice that little feature and stay on 12.04 in a heartbeat.
[14:45] <yeats> roasted: yeah - that's the trade off - you don't get the new-release goodness
[14:46] <roasted> yeats: did you do an upgrade from 12.04, or was it a fresh install?
[14:46] <Kroach> roasted: check scale plugin settings in ccsm, an option to turn this on may be in there
[14:46] <yeats> roasted: I've done both
[14:46] <roasted> yeats: no issues with the upgrade?
[14:46] <roasted> Kroach: I will, thanks much!
[14:47] <yeats> roasted: nope - but keep backups ;-)
[14:47] <filesunknown> Would this be a good place to get suggestions on why some wine games are running slow even with gold status?
[14:47] <roasted> yeats: nightly rsync of data and monthly clonezilla of images on each system in this house my friend ;)
[14:47] <yeats> filesunknown: try #winehq
[14:48] <yeats> roasted: excellent - then nothing to worry about
[14:48] <filesunknown> I am starting to wonder if it is a slow cpu causing it. even though in windows the game runs max settings
[14:48] <aarfer> has anyone been able to use a griffin powermate in ubuntu?
[14:48] <filesunknown> Thanks
[14:48] <Katronix> Hi all, setting up a new Ubuntu web server, and hoping to find out the right packages I need. I would like apache to be able to handle web pages regardless of who owns them, and also allow scripts like WordPress to be able to handle editing their own files. Can anyone give suggestions?
[14:48] <yale> hello
[14:49] <aarfer> yale. hi. how can we serve you?
[14:49] <CrossedWire> Hello all.  I'm having a bit of a problem with wifi passwords being rejected for...no reason.
[14:49] <nearst> !patience
[14:49] <CrossedWire> Well, of course there is a reason!
[14:51] <nearst> wifi passwords?
[14:51] <aarfer> that's what he said...
[14:51] <Kroach> CrossedWire:does it happen on all networks?
[14:51] <gaf> hello, I was reading this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases , and it says lucid 10.04 will have support till 2015?
[14:51] <CrossedWire> Yeah, I brought my laptop home and when I fired it up this morning it just kept asking for the password to my wifi...which my other box and my phone are on.
[14:52] <nearst> gaf, depends if ur update-release setting to lts or normal
[14:52] <CrossedWire> Yesterday it was fine.  Last night at work it was fine.
[14:52] <CrossedWire> This morning it just keeps asking and asking.
[14:52] <gaf> nearst, idk what do you mean
[14:52] <roasted> CrossedWire: go into your network preferences. Delete the current wifi entry for your router so nothing of your router is in there. Then select it from the list again and connect manually.
[14:52] <nearst> try reboot then
[14:52] <yeats> !10.04 | gaf
[14:52] <MakiAto> CrossedWire: some one is spoofing your SSID
[14:53] <yeats> nearst: 10.04 is an LTS release
[14:53] <nearst> CrossedWire, or it try to get your handshake packet :D
[14:53] <gaf> oww, so it will be over on desktop but supported on the server? I was thinking would be the end in 2013 for all of them, :/
[14:53] <Kroach> MakiAto:rather his MAC
[14:54] <nearst> it would be safe with do-release-upgrade ;c
[14:54] <Katronix> can anyone help?
[14:54] <gaf> so 10.04 all the way till 2015?hurayyyyy
[14:54] <CrossedWire> Roasted that was a no go...MakiAto were that the case how would my windows box and phone be connected?
[14:54] <Kroach> Katronix: state your question and we'll see
[14:54] <yeats> !behelpful | MakiAto
[14:54] <Katronix> Hi all, setting up a new Ubuntu web server, and hoping to find out the right packages I need. I would like apache to be able to handle web pages regardless of who owns them, and also allow scripts like WordPress to be able to handle editing their own files. Can anyone give suggestions?
[14:54] <nearst> Kroach, ya.. u should disconnect to your network while getting mon1 into monitor mode :). unless have another wireless chipset on
[14:55] <CrossedWire> Wait a second oh ho
[14:55] <CrossedWire> Those are on the WirelessN
[14:55] <Kooodari> Moi
[14:55] <Kooodari> Sorry
[14:55] <Kooodari> Wrong window
[14:55] <CrossedWire> The laptop is only G
[14:55] <Katronix> Kroach there you go :)
[14:55] <yeats> gaf:  beginning with 12.04, both desktop and server are supported 5 years (afaik)
[14:55] <CrossedWire> Okay so if someone is spoofing that...what do?
[14:55] <jrtappers> Is there an open source equivelent to 2D design by techsoft?
[14:56] <yeats> CrossedWire: don't listen to MakiAto - (s)he's trolling
[14:56] <MakiAto> so is CrossedWire
[14:56] <CrossedWire> Actually I'm not...
[14:57] <aarfer> what is the command to show what the release name is of your distro?   it's something like lsb_release or something like that...
[14:57] <nearst> lsb_release -a
[14:57] <aarfer> don't listen to yeats, he's trolling.
[14:57] <CrossedWire> Yesterday morning--no problem Last night at work--no problem  This morning...won't accept password.
[14:57] <nearst> my oneko is cutting running for  my mouse
[14:57] <yeats> aarfer: anyone who knows me from this channel knows I don't troll
[14:58] <MakiAto> or maybe you excell at it
[14:58] <aarfer> i'm just kidding yeats.
[14:58] <aarfer> hahah. good point MakiAto
[14:58] <ikonia> it's not funny
[14:58] <yeats> aarfer: humor doesn't really translate in this medium - try to stay on topic
[14:58] <ikonia> aarfer: do not try to bad mouth people in the channel.
[14:58] <aarfer> you help for a long time and then switch to troll mode. hahah.
[14:59] <gaf> the good troll is the troll that keeps trolling without raising too much anger, so he stay in the channel...the art of trolling....
[14:59] <jrtappers> What is a the best software for drawing schematics in ubuntu?
[14:59] <aarfer> you kick with no warning?
[14:59] <ikonia> aarfer: you had a warning - you continued
[14:59] <ikonia> aarfer: stop it.
[14:59] <Katronix> is there a better channel to be in for help with Ubuntu web servers?
[14:59] <aarfer> there is lag you know....
[14:59] <Kroach> CrossedWire:have you already tried deleting the connection and trying again?
[15:00] <yeats> Katronix: #ubuntu-server?
[15:00] <Katronix> yeats thanks
[15:00] <ikonia> aarfer: are you using debian or ubuntu
[15:01] <aarfer> ikonia,  right now i'm on crunchbang. but my main computer is ubuntu.
[15:01] <aarfer> ikonia,  how come?
[15:01] <ikonia> aarfer: oh, I'm confused as you are asking the same questions in #debian suggesting you are using debian
[15:02] <nearst> crunchbang is debian. unless ure using 9 release. they still ubuntu
[15:02] <decci> Hello All
[15:02] <aarfer> i just did because the questions i had would be the same thing on debian or ubuntu or linuxmint. i wasn't getting a response in here.   :)
[15:02] <decci> Hopw you all are doing good
[15:02] <ikonia> aarfer: yeah, so you're breaking the rules of #debian too. not good.
[15:03] <nearst> *ethic
[15:03] <decci> I am trying to install Clonezilla on Ubuntu 12.04.1. I need to install Windows Xp on all the 10 client machines. I am aware of DRBL and clonezilla installation but I still have no idea how to configure for Windows Images
[15:03] <aarfer> so if i am running ubuntu, i am not allowed to go into debian and as them how i might configure gedit?
[15:04] <ikonia> aarfer: correct, check the /topic in #debian, but we are moving off this channels topic
[15:04] <decci> I am following http://geekyprojects.com/cloning/setup-a-clonezilla-server-on-ubuntu/
[15:04] <decci> But it doesnt explain how to do for Windows Images
[15:04] <nearst> decci, try using norton-ghost. clonezilla would be slowww im guess.:P
[15:05] <decci> nearst: I just need to setup through Clonezilla
[15:05] <yeats> nearst: clonezilla is actually very good (and F/LOSS)
[15:05] <ikonia> decci: contact either clonezilla support resources, or the people who wrote that guide
[15:05] <yeats> decci: it takes an image of the full disk, so you don't have to worry about which OS is running
[15:06] <user575123> i installed bumblebee on ubuntu 12.10 and programs started with 'optirun' eats my cpu very much. Anybody help?
[15:06] <nearst> yeats, ya. just guessing that :)
[15:06] <yeats> nearst: not helpful
[15:06] <jrtappers> What is a the best software for drawing schematics in ubuntu?
[15:06] <aarfer> ok ikonia gotcha.  next time i'll ask ubuntu questions from my debian computer.
[15:06] <decci> yeats: Do I need to place Windows complete image under some folder like /clonezilla
[15:06] <aarfer> ooops. sorry, i meant ubuntu questions from my ubuntu computer and deb questions from my debian computer. heh.
[15:07] <ikonia> aarfer: it doesn't matter what OS your computer running, but that you ask questions about the OS you have the problem with
[15:07] <yeats> decci: I would do what ikonia suggests and ask in a clonezilla venue
[15:08] <|UsQUE|> hi all
[15:08] <|UsQUE|> got some weard issue in cups, I want to print PDF file on my Windows PC to cups server but seems not to print the pdf files.. when I print other files like word or txt they all work :S
[15:08] <aarfer> i have 7 hard drives in my computer, i just installed ubuntu on one of them, (one of the hard drives is a SSD) it installed just fine. but after when i boot, it (the SSD with the OS) shows as sdg  is there a way to make it show up as sda? or is it too late for that?
[15:08] <|UsQUE|> anyone any clue whats going wrong,
[15:08] <|UsQUE|> ?
[15:09] <|UsQUE|> and cups logs are empty
[15:09] <Dra|n> hi
[15:09] <gaf> if i have a server 10.04 and a desktop 12.04. would i find too much deifferences when installing ppa's and otherpkgs?
[15:09] <ikonia> gaf: differences ? in what
[15:10] <gaf> in versions, idk
[15:10] <ikonia> gaf: you can't share versions
[15:10] <Dra|n> gat imposible!
[15:10] <ikonia> gaf: PPA's are version specific
[15:10] <user575123> programs started with bumblebee (optirun) eats cpu very much. Anybody knows how to fix it?
[15:10] <BluesKaj> gaf, you cvan't mix release version ppas/packages
[15:11] <gaf> mm, ok
[15:12] <aarfer> ikonia,  so, when i upgrade to 13.04 the upgrader will upgrade the virtualbox ppa to whatever 13.04 is called right?
[15:12] <ikonia> aarfer: no
[15:12] <ikonia> aarfer: you need to disable PPA's before upgrading
[15:12] <aarfer> ikonia,  i'll have to del and add a new ppa?
[15:12] <aarfer> ok.
[15:12] <ikonia> and you should consider removing any PPA/3rd party software before upgrading
[15:13] <jrtappers> can I check grub-reboot options easily, or enable a debug mode? I want to see if it was set without rebooting
[15:13] <ikonia> jrtappers: not really
[15:14] <nick07> hello my ubuntu stops during install, i have log file which like to be in a loop
[15:15] <nick07> maybe anyone can trace the error in the logfile to find the problem?
[15:16] <nick07> this is the error, which loops continu
[15:16] <nick07> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5558399/
[15:19] <apple> quit
[15:19] <apple> q
[15:20] <nick07> anyone any idea?
[15:22] <compdoc> nick07, which ubuntu?
[15:22] <nick07> 12.10
[15:22] <compdoc> stalling at install seems to be a common issue
[15:22] <|UsQUE|> is it possible to extend the existing filesystem EXT4 without losing data ?
[15:23] <Dra|n> sure
[15:24] <nick07> can i do something about it?
[15:24] <|UsQUE|> Dra|n, how?
[15:24] <|UsQUE|> :)
[15:25] <offender> hi everyone! burn all jews in oven!
[15:25] <offender> burn all jews in gas oven
[15:25] <Dra|n> well ur main task wold be
[15:25] <yeats> !ops | offender
[15:25] <offender> burn all jews in GAS oven
[15:25] <compdoc> nick07, you can try 12.04. But there may be bios options that are messing it up too
[15:25] <Dra|n> that you have to read some at google.com
[15:26] <nick07> i tried alternate 12.04, same issue
[15:26] <compdoc> nick07, is the sceen going blank? does it seem to keep installing
[15:27] <compdoc> Setting locale failed - seems an odd error
[15:27] <nick07> no not black, the little round loading logo is keeping turning.. the log file looks like to be in a loop, the OS is not freezed. I can abort and use the live mode if i like
[15:28] <sam123> Is there a good safe over-Internet Windows-to-Linux remote desktop program?
[15:28] <compdoc> nick07, do you have it connected to the internet?
[15:28] <nick07> yes
[15:29] <nearst> sam123, try remmina
[15:29] <nick07> have you seen my log file?
[15:31] <compdoc> yes, but means nothing to me because Ive never seen it before. If that occured I would google the error.
[15:31] <compdoc> Does your mainboard have UEFI bios?
[15:32] <blez> someone worked with xdotool?
[15:35] <mmmbud> yo
[15:35] <mmmbud> all my youtube videos are blue
[15:35] <mmmbud> i take it somthing is up with flash
[15:35] <Dra|n> nice man
[15:35] <Dra|n> thats 5D
[15:36] <Dra|n> got glasses for it ?
[15:36] <blez> what's the channel for X development?
[15:37] <k1l_> mmmbud: which ubuntu, which video driver?
[15:38] <nic013> anyone using globe tattoo prepaid here??
[15:38] <otak> there is #xorg
[15:40] <mmmbud> k1l_,
[15:40] <mmmbud> nvidia
[15:40] <nic013> anyone using globe tattoo prepaid here??
[15:41] <k1l_> nic013: is there a ubuntu support question behind that?
[15:42] <k1l_> mmmbud: again: which ubuntu? which video driver is in use? that should be fixed alot time ago
[15:45] <nic013> uhm...i just wanna know if there's anyway I can subscribe to my ISP's promos without removing the sim  card and putting it in my phone
[15:45] <k-stz> hello i installed 12.04 just now and when i boot i get "boot sector error, no os installed" and it loops like this, BUT when I use livecd and choose the entry "boot from harddisk" i get into the fresh install..?
[15:46] <compdoc> k-stz, is there more than 1 hdd in the system?
[15:47] <glphvgacs> is uxterm the same as xterm?
[15:47] <k-stz> compdoc: yes the other one has windows on it
[15:48] <k-stz> also after i choose the livecd entry i get into grub and it  shows it all properly
[15:48] <MakiAto> #windows-legacy
[15:48] <compdoc> k-stz, its possible grub is writing to the wrong drive. Or that you have a UEFI bios
[15:48] <BluesKaj> mmmbud, in a terminal , glxinfo | grep OpenGL  ,  the line with "OpenGL version string: ...shows the driver . you'll probly need to install mesa-utils for the glxinfo command to work
[15:49] <nic013> uhm...i just wanna know if there's anyway I can subscribe to my ISP's promos without removing the sim  card and putting it in my phone
[15:50] <glphvgacs> where is the config file for wallpaper?
[15:50] <jrib> glphvgacs: It's probably stored in dconf; why?
[15:50] <tvoss> #phablet
[15:51] <glphvgacs> jrib: i want to change it
[15:51] <funny> hi
[15:51] <jrib> glphvgacs: can't you right click on the desktop and access the settings that way?
[15:51] <karansac> Hi everyone
[15:51] <k-stz> compdoc: ok check this out: If i use the bios boot menu, it only shows the dvd-drive
[15:51] <glphvgacs> jrib: yes, thanks
[15:52] <mohamed> can anyone please help me setup my canon printer on ubuntu
[15:52] <compdoc> k-stz, is windows version 8?
[15:52] <jrib> !print | mohamed
[15:52] <k-stz> compdoc: no its a xp and only for gaming
[15:52] <glphvgacs> jrib: do you know how i can change xterm's setting so it doesn't blink bold fonts?
[15:53] <k-stz> compdoc: sata 1=winxp, sata2=ubuntu12.04
[15:53] <karansac> I did a backup of my files on an external HDD before reinstalling. But after fresh install, there seems to be a charset problem with thoses files.
[15:53] <karansac> Their names appear with strange characters. Do you have any idea how I could solve this?
[15:53] <jrib> glphvgacs: no I don't know about that
[15:53] <compdoc> k-stz, I would try disconnecting the windows drive and see what happens
[15:53] <k-stz> compdoc: yes you got it
[15:54] <nearst> :)
[15:55] <mmmbud> blueskaj: ubuntu 13.04
[15:55] <mmmbud> OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
[15:55] <mmmbud> OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 8400 GS/PCIe/SSE2
[15:55] <mmmbud> OpenGL version string: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 310.32
[15:55] <mmmbud> OpenGL shading language version string: 3.30 NVIDIA via Cg compiler
[15:55] <mmmbud> OpenGL extensions:
[15:55] <FloodBot1> mmmbud: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:55] <compdoc> mmmbud, tmi
[15:55] <mmmbud> oops i realised straight away
[15:56] <mmmbud> sorry
[15:56] <BluesKaj> mmmbud, that's the same nvidia card and driver that i use ..I'm on KDE without any graphics prtoblems at all
[15:58] <glphvgacs> jrib: is there a documnetation for that?
[15:58] <mmmbud> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5558538/
[15:58] <k1l_> mmmbud: since ubuntu 13.04 is still in development use the #ubuntu+1 channel please
[15:59] <jrib> glphvgacs: for what?  Your font issue?  Can you describe in more detail what you are seeing?  Is it with every program in your shell?  Did it happen by default?  Does it happen with other terminals (like gnome-terminal)?
[15:59] <BluesKaj> mmmbud, and I'm also running 13.04 , but the 12.10 install is problem free as well
[16:02] <nic013> uhm...i just wanna know if there's anyway I can subscribe to my ISP's promos without removing the sim  card and putting it in my phone?
[16:03] <jrib> nic013: how is this related to ubuntu?
[16:04] <sam-palmisano> hi
[16:04] <sam-palmisano> hi boys
[16:04] <makara> hi. Where can I ask about sound editing?
[16:05] <sam-palmisano> hi makara
[16:05] <makara> hi
[16:06] <Dragen> Hello everyone, can I ask for help here?
[16:06] <sam-palmisano> anyone knows how to add themes on ubuntu?
[16:06] <theadmin> Dragen: Only if it's related to Ubuntu
[16:07] <Dragen> Does Lubuntu count?
[16:07] <theadmin> sam-palmisano: MyUnity provides that capability.
[16:07] <theadmin> Dragen: Yep
[16:07] <Dragen> Great.
[16:07] <sam-palmisano> theadmin .., where is it available??
[16:08] <theadmin> sam-palmisano: The Software Center, of course, where else do you get apps :P
[16:08] <imarks> #ubuntu-phone
[16:08] <imarks> how do you switch channel?
[16:08] <BluesKaj> mmmbud, have you opened the Nvidia Xserver Settings app and checked the DFP-O colour correction settings ?
[16:08] <theadmin> imarks: /join #ubuntu-phone
[16:08] <k1l_> imarks: /join #channelname
[16:08] <Dragen> I'm trying to download and install LibreOffice, they say there are specific ways of doing so on different distros, but how do I do it? I've heard stuff about Software Center but I can't find it on Lubuntu.
[16:08] <imarks> oke thx
[16:09] <sam-palmisano> theadmin.., thank you buddy :)
[16:09] <k1l_> Dragen: "sudo apt-get install libreoffice"?
[16:09] <Dragen> I just copy and paste it into the command line?
[16:09] <theadmin> Dragen: I'm not sure why you can't find the SC, it's there on all Ubuntu versions, but you can easily do this via the terminal: sudo apt-get install libreoffice-{base,writer,calc,impress,math,draw}
[16:09] <k1l_> Dragen: i am not sure if software-center is in lubuntu as standard
[16:09] <Dragen> I'll try then.
[16:10] <theadmin> Dragen: You can install software-center via apt-get too, but Lubuntu should come with it...
[16:11] <Dragen> On the start button (or w/e it's called here) which category do I find it in?
[16:11] <theadmin> Is there a way to get Java (Swing) menus to integrate with globalmenu without recompiling them?
[16:11] <theadmin> Dragen: It'd be logical if it's in "System".
[16:11] <Dragen> Oh, I found it now. :P
[16:11] <Dragen> Thank you
[16:12] <code_ph0y> hey guys can someone tell me a program/tutoral on using svn?
[16:12] <mmmbud> blueskaj its only a blue tint on flash vids
[16:12] <jrib> Dragen: http://subversion.apache.org/docs/
[16:13] <Dragen> What is that?
[16:13] <jrib> code_ph0y: http://subversion.apache.org/docs/
[16:13] <theadmin> jrib: Mistab. code_ph0y: See the link jrib gave
[16:13] <jrib> Dragen: wrong nick :)
[16:13] <code_ph0y> thanks!
[16:13] <Dragen> OK
[16:13] <theadmin> code_ph0y: You could go the Ubuntu way and use Bazaar, too, it's svn-compatible.
[16:14] <mmmbud> this is prettymuch the first time ubuntu has worked for me
[16:14] <k1l_> mmmbud: like i said before: 13.04 is still in developing. so better ask in #ubuntu+1 since this is not a regular issue on ubuntu
[16:15] <mmmbud> ok thanks i had it in 12.04 aswell
[16:15] <Dragen> So what programming language does this "LXTerminal" use?
[16:15] <theadmin> Dragen: Bash is the default shell in Ubuntu.
[16:16] <Dragen> Which means that's what used when typing in it?
[16:16] <theadmin> Dragen: Pretty much.
[16:16] <Dragen> Or maybe that's not considered programming
[16:16] <Dragen> Oh ok
[16:16] <theadmin> Dragen: Well, it's not exactly programming, yeah.
[16:16] <Dragen> What is it then? Commanding, perhaps?
[16:16] <BluesKaj> mmmbud, then you probly need a flash update/upgrade or your browser flashplugin is misbehaving
[16:17] <Fira> Hey :D I got unsatisfiable cross-dependancies that prevents from installing/upgrading/removing anything :(... What can I do to get rid of them ?
[16:17] <theadmin> Dragen: Scripting, I suppose.
[16:17] <Fira> Apt advises running install -f but this results in roughly the same thing : impossible cross version requirements and no change
[16:18] <Dragen> Okay
[16:18] <Fira> I can't even use remove -f to get rid of packages regardless of deps to reinstall everything
[16:18] <Fira> So what now ?
[16:19] <k1l_> Fira: can you pastebin the "apt-get install -f" with output?
[16:19] <imarks> guys i have just installed ubuntu 12.10 32 bit in virtual box but i dont see a menu on my screen, how can i access the menu?
[16:20] <theadmin> imarks: Make sure 3D acceleration is enabled in VM properties
[16:22] <Fira> k1l_, sure: http://pastebin.com/dCRBFH9r
[16:23] <Fira> basically
[16:23] <Fira> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of initramfs-tools:
[16:23] <Fira>  initramfs-tools depends on initramfs-tools-bin (<< 0.99ubuntu13.1~); however:
[16:23] <Fira>   Version of initramfs-tools-bin on system is 0.103ubuntu0.2.
[16:24] <k1l_> Fira: which ubuntu is it? are there PPA or other sources? why are you root?
[16:24] <ambrose321> hello
[16:24] <L3top> Fira: this is almost always due to PPA conflicts. I assume you have stuff in /etc/apt/sources.list.d ?
[16:25] <Fira> PPA conflicts ? hmm
[16:25] <GH0> I seem to be having an issue with apt-get and purging/autoremoving/removing. Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/uYTXJff6
[16:25] <frantic> hey, anyone experienced the touchpad/keyboard  bug with ubuntu/xubuntu??
[16:25] <ambrose321> i'm wodering if someone can help me with a problem that I have with installing lubuntu in a separate partition (3 actually boot,root and home) alongside Fedora
[16:25] <Fira> Nope L3top & k1l_ , empty, i'm not running with any kind of custom sources
[16:26] <ambrose321> hen i have tried this in the past Grub is no longer showing Fedora at boot time
[16:26] <L3top> Fira: by ppa conflicts I mean conflicting/non-satisfyable dependencies caused by the PPA files in the repo. I see your last reply.
[16:26] <ambrose321> any ideas as to why that might be?
[16:26] <k1l_> Fira: please make a "sudo apt-get update &&sudo apt-get upgrade" and show that again
[16:27] <Fira> already did :( in fact i also tried to run a do-release-upgrade - and as such, as of now i'm not sure wether this is technically a 12.04 or 12.10 ubuntu server (hopefully cloned it before)
[16:28] <cpare> hello - My computer hung while formatting a USB thumbdrive, and now I can't access it - can someone help me get it working again?
[16:29] <theadmin> Fira: Well, you could check with lsb_release -c
[16:29] <k1l_> Fira: what does "lsb_release -r " give you?
[16:29] <escott> ambrose321, run "update-grub"
[16:29] <k1l_> Fira: and then take a look into the /etc/apt/sources.list what is mentioned there
[16:30] <Fira> reads 12.10, but there were quite a few problems during the 12.10 upgrade due to apt-get failing to install pretty much everything in the same fashion
[16:30] <Fira> sources seems to be 12.04 >_>
[16:30] <Fira> i can rollback to 12.04 but already had the problem
[16:31] <theadmin> Fira: Well, that's pretty messed up... I don't think one can do much to fix it :/
[16:31] <theadmin> APT has no idea how to downgrade properly
[16:31] <aPpYe> Last night I installed from the mini.iso, I ran 'apt-get install $(cat /path/to/my/package/list)' inside of a screen session ... this morning I found it hung at downloading arialb32.exe from sourceforge.  I was able to gracefully shutdown the machine (shutdown -rF) and chose recovery mode and selected to repair broken packages.  Does this pick up the previously interrupted apt-get or does it simply run 'apt-get -f install' to get mi
[16:31] <aPpYe> ssing dependencies for packages that did install correctly?
[16:31] <k1l_> make a quantal instead of the precise in the sources list.
[16:31] <k1l_> and give it another apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:31] <Fira> Well it reads 10.04, but sources are quantal :P
[16:32] <Fira> 12.04*
[16:32] <k1l_> Fira: wait what?
[16:32] <eos> hi guys, anyone who knows about infrared devices on ubuntu? I do not seem to be able to work my irda dongle, I have been googling for 2 days.
[16:32] <Fira> Okay, okay, hang on, let me just roll back to pre-upgrade version, that'll be one less problem to sort out >_<
[16:32] <k1l_> Fira:  what reads 12.04 and what says in sources.list?
[16:33] <cpare> hello - My computer hung while formatting a USB thumbdrive, and now I can't access it - can someone help me get it working again?
[16:34] <escott> cpare, why not just reformat it again
[16:34] <karthikeyan> gnustep anyone?
[16:35] <aPpYe> well anyway, I guess it won't hurt to run the package install again after rebooting...
[16:35] <theadmin> cpare: If the partition table has been damaged you could recreate it with GParted or fdisk
[16:36] <cpare> theadmin - gpartd is giving me errors on the drive as well
[16:36] <theadmin> cpare: What is the error?
[16:37] <solar_sea> Hi. I've installed ubuntu 12.10 on a lvm logical volume, ext4. Then I added another logical volume (nilfs2), added nilfs2 to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules, updated grub and managed to boot with nilfs2 as root.
[16:37] <WBF> I need help, just updated, pressed alt+enter to switch toa different Desktop environment and It just logs me in.
[16:37] <cpare> theadmin - "Libparted Bug Found! - Input/Output error during read on /dev/sdb"
[16:37] <escott> cpare, sounds like the usb is/was damaged
[16:37] <solar_sea> So far so good, but some scripts fails during boot time, and after that mount doesn't list the root mount :) the system works, but when mount doesn't list root as mounted, nilfs2 can't run it's cleaner deamon
[16:37] <escott> cpare, thats probably why it hung the first time you tried to format
[16:37] <L3top> Fira: k1l_ sounds like a do release broke because of some other broken thing... now sources are all jacked relating to the original breakage.
[16:38] <solar_sea> where are the logs from initrd boot process kept after boot, if any ?
[16:38] <theadmin> cpare: Eh. Sounds problematic alright, could you go to Device -> Recreate partition table and do that?
[16:38] <cpare> escott - nah, my laptop needs to be re-floated
[16:38] <archbsdace> WBF: alt+enter? you're meant to select the desktop at login
[16:38] <WBF> archbsdace, 12.10 :P
[16:38] <k1l_> L3top: there are some 12.10 packages which dont met 12.04 depencies. so maybe a upgrade to 12,10 will help if its still 12.04 sources
[16:39] <eos> I do not seem to be able to make it work but it is a 5 year old dongle, with an old chip.
[16:39] <cpare> theadmin - same error when I try to do that
[16:39] <Fira> L3top / k1l_ : Rolled back to old snapshot, lsb_release reads 12.04, sources are precise, ran apt-get update/upgrade, still got the same old problem running install -f : http://pastebin.com/9fMzuUw4
[16:39] <archbsdace> WBF: what do you expect alt+enter to do?
[16:40] <WBF> archbsdace, to let me select a desktop environment
[16:40] <archbsdace> WBF: where are you getting this from?
[16:40] <cpare> escott - I was in the process of making a boot USB to try out a FSF distro :)
[16:40] <k1l_> WBF: alt+enter doesnt do that
[16:40] <escott> WBF, you probably want to remove lightdm and install gdm
[16:41] <nbaleli> hello Im having troubles installing ubuntu on windows8 (newbie question)
[16:41] <frankenstein_> tell more or nobody is able to help
[16:41] <L3top> !info initramfs-tools-bin precise
[16:42] <Fira> hmm
[16:42] <k1l_> Fira: can you show a "sudo apt-get update" please?
[16:42] <L3top> something else is broken.... yes that ^
[16:42] <escott> nbaleli, it usually helps to disable secure boot so that there is one less thing to worry about
[16:42] <nbaleli> I install using windows installer. It finishes 1st step, then reboots into windows again
[16:42] <GH0> I am having problems with apt-get/dpkg as files that were needed for the packages removal were deleted. I have tried using the -f flag with apt-get, I tried doing an audit with dpkg, and now I am lost as to how to resolve the issue and get things back working the way they were so I can correctly install packages/remove packages
[16:43] <Fira> oh, gimme a moment please, VM is cloning :(
[16:43] <BluesKaj> frankenstein_, help with ?
[16:43] <nbaleli> escott I followed several how-to's on the web, no luck. Im a complete newbie with this
[16:43] <Nikon> hi there
[16:43] <sahin> hello
[16:43] <Nikon> i need to figure oiut how to add ubuntu to my windows 8 boot loader
[16:44] <nbaleli> Tried installin ubunto on my laptop aswell and encountered the same issue
[16:44] <Nikon> was trying easy bcd
[16:45] <BluesKaj> !uefi | Nikon
[16:45] <nbaleli> Altough a friend of mine installed ubuntu on his laptop, without windows, and it works flawlessly, and the system looks very very nice
[16:45] <L3top> Nikon: explain... I am guessing you installed ubuntu, and then you installed windows 8?
[16:45] <sahin> i cant get my ati radeon 6470m graphics card. i can use ubuntu desktop with no problem. but openGL is not working. any of you guys have an idea?
[16:45] <nwertman> Quick question.  I have a MacBook Air that will not boot any of the USB drives I have (firmware issue).  I've installed rEFIt and done a 'dd' to install the LiveCD onto a 2 gig partition that I have.  When I boot from there, I'm told 'isolinux.bin missing or corrupt'
[16:45] <Nikon> no L3top i had windows 8 first
[16:45] <nwertman> I'm running 10.8.2 (freshly update).  Unetbootin doesn't help and everything I've tried for USB booting fails.
[16:46] <L3top> Nikon: then ubuntu should have installed grub in the MBR. You should not be dealing with a win 8 bootloader.
[16:46] <archbsdace> !uefi | Nikon
[16:46] <Nikon> im reading
[16:47] <L3top> nwertman: whatever you are making the image with has an odd version of syslinux typically.
[16:47] <nwertman> Does anyone have any instructions on how to blast the LiveCD onto a single partition of my internal hard drive
[16:47] <nwertman> I downloaded the latest syslinux from the wiki and I grabbed mbr.bin from there.
[16:47] <lb27> nwertman: what dd command did you use?
[16:48] <WBF> nwertman, try PLoP boot manager
[16:48] <nwertman> This is from my latest attempt at USB booting: 'dd conv=notrunc bs=440 count=1 if=mbr.bin of=/dev/rdisk1'
[16:48] <blez> "Secure Boot" is a new UEFI feature that appeared in 2012, with Windows8 preinstalled computers. The support for this feature has started with Ubuntu 12.10 64bit (see this article) and 12.04.2 64bit, but it is not fully reliable yet, so you may need to disable it in order to be able to boot Ubuntu.
[16:48] <blez> what about 32bit?
[16:49] <escott> blez, i didnt think there was a win8 32bit
[16:49] <lb27> nwertman: why the count=1 ? afaik that wrote only 440b to the disk?
[16:49] <blez> escott there is
[16:49] <Boris_> escott: yes there was
[16:49] <nwertman> Following instructions here: 'http://perpetual-notion.blogspot.fr/2011/08/unetbootin-on-mac-os-x.html"
[16:49] <blez> that's why I'm asking.
[16:49] <escott> an oem version? or just an upgrade?
[16:50] <nwertman> I'm to the point where I'm just blindly following any site that gives me a new approach
[16:50] <amejia> hi
[16:50] <amejia> clear
[16:50] <sunsetlover> guys i need program to manage my mobile (Galaxy S III), any one can help
[16:50] <amejia> anybody here use DRUSH?
[16:51] <escott> blez, im pretty sure the 32bit version is bios only.
[16:51] <lb27> nwertman: ah, ok, I see where I was assuming wrong.  I'm used to just throwing the iso on the disk using dd, but i'm not mac..
[16:51] <escott> blez, http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/hardware/gg463149.aspx
[16:52] <blez> escott mine tablet/laptop is with 32bit cpu and win8 x86
[16:52] <piglit> where can i find the usb devices mounted (?) like the keyboard etc ... i mean in the file structure
[16:52] <blez> and I wanted to install ubuntu on it, but UEFI wasn't supported at this time (month ago)
[16:52] <Fira> L3top / k1l_ : Well.. Nothing much new, http://pastebin.com/9fMzuUw4
[16:53] <escott> blez, i know ARM is completely locked down. again i didnt know there was a 32bit x86 tablet
[16:53] <k1l_> Fira: show the apt-get update please
[16:53] <Fira> it's @ top
[16:54] <blez> yea, Acer W510
[16:54] <k1l_> Fira: no its not
[16:54] <Fira> huh o_o?
[16:54] <Fira> oh
[16:55] <Fira> wrong link >.<'
[16:55] <Fira> http://pastebin.com/ULwPp5DY
[16:55] <Fira> sowry!
[16:55] <L3top> Fira: something is breaking initramfs' ability to configure... the problem is not initramfs, but something else down the pike that is not supposed to be there and cannot be loaded into the kernel, breaking dpkg. You need to find it. my guess is going to be libc6. apt-cache depends libc6  apt-cache rdepends libc6
[16:55] <jackarg> hello I would like assistance/guidance on installing ubuntu on my new acer (64 bit) running windows 8 thanks
[16:55] <relapse> Hi
[16:55] <Fira> Mhmh
[16:56] <L3top> apt-cache policy libc6
[16:56] <escott> jackarg, please be more specific. nbaleli same to you
[16:56] <relapse> I'm having a lot of problems with xubuntu. Logically it shouldnt be much different than Ubuntu with unity, but powermanagement, sound quality, and other tid bits are driving me nuts. Would it be benificial to install Ubuntu 12.10 and just install xubuntu-desktop? Or am I mistaken and there aren't any underlying differences between the two releases?
[16:57] <escott> relapse, logically it would be very very different from unity
[16:57] <relapse> escott: I know the UI, i mean drivers/modules etc
[16:57] <relapse> escott: I mean the underlying core ubuntu os.
[16:57] <escott> relapse, gnome starts a lot of daemons for the userspace. dbus, pulse, etc
[16:57] <dem0n> hmm...
[16:57] <L3top> it is my understanding that only arm8 is locked with win8 UEFI (though red-hat purchased a license)
[16:57] <dem0n> how is everyone doing today?...
[16:57] <L3top> escott: ^
[16:59] <escott> L3top, i think the "license" redhat bought was for x86 and its just a smaller fee (the same that is charged to hardware manufacturers who need to get their drivers signed)
[16:59] <jackarg> escott: I need help on a lot of subjects but mostly because I can't seem to get the computer to boot off the cd. it said the cd drive as blocked for security reasons. then, once i fixed that problem, I heard windows 8 wasn't always recognized by the ubuntu installer which is a problem since i want to dual boot. So if someone could help me with all of this it would be great!
[16:59] <dryhay> hi. I'm missing my ibus sometimes. could someone check it, please: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2116673
[16:59] <escott> jackarg, disable secure boot
[16:59] <jackarg> how? it's all in grey in the bios
[16:59] <Fira> Mmh... Well rdepends shows everything which seems logical, but i'm not too sure what else you want me to look in the rest: http://pastebin.com/kMPtaeiT. I don't assume it's normal for it to read that libc breaks nscd ?
[17:00]  * mmh ?
[17:00] <escott> jackarg, cant tell you thats specific to the manufacturer. per the "made for windows 8" contract it must be possible to disable it
[17:00]  * Fira woopses mmh
[17:00] <Nikon> hi
[17:00] <piglit> what location can i find the usb devises as the keyboard etc i can find with lsusb ?
[17:00] <Nikon> im back
[17:00] <Nikon> so what do i do now
[17:01] <escott> piglit, what location?
[17:01] <Nikon> i disabled that new fangled thing
[17:01] <Nikon> for the boot
[17:01] <jackarg> escott: but do you have any guidance on how do disable it somehow? point me to a thread?
[17:01] <L3top> aha... Fira... I would start trying to remove all of those conflicts first
[17:01] <piglit> escott: well if you mount a hd it is in media but where are the other usb devices ?
[17:01] <Nikon> L3top: hai
[17:01] <escott> jackarg, no. its specific to that bios. i dont know what it says or where it is
[17:01] <escott> jackarg, so unless you can tell me where i left my keys this morning. i can't tell you how to disable secure boot
[17:02] <L3top> Fira: if it suggests that this will hoze your system, and do you REALLY want to do it and makes you type "do as I say" do NOT>
[17:02] <escott> piglit, you don't mount devices
[17:02] <Fira> L3top: sure, but I can't remove anything since practically everything depends on the libc :(
[17:02] <blez> jackarg to disable secure boot, you must set a password first
[17:02] <blez> afaik.
[17:02] <L3top> libc is installed
[17:02] <Fira> Yeah
[17:02] <Nikon> L3top: so what do i do now?>\
[17:03] <L3top> libc does not depend on them...
[17:03] <L3top> What is the device Nikon
[17:03] <Fira> Must be understanding something backwards
[17:03] <piglit> escott: yes i know cant find the right word but there is a dir where the bus and device is
[17:03] <Nikon> hp envy m6
[17:03] <Nikon> im on my live cd atm
[17:03] <escott> piglit, do you want /dev/usb?
[17:03] <Fira> depend output reads "conflicts: tzdata", remove tzdata reads "libc depends on: tzdata"
[17:04] <jackarg> blez: you set a password in bios?
[17:04] <escott> piglit, /dev/bus/usb?
[17:04] <HiddenCloud> I need help on the ftp thing in ubuntu
[17:04] <zanegray> jackarg: yes
[17:04] <HiddenCloud> how do I cd a folder that has spaces in it
[17:04] <L3top> it is installed, and conflicting with those packages it sees as installed Fira... I am not sure how this situation was created.... remove what you can that conflicts... or are you saying they all do?
[17:04] <HiddenCloud> it says whenever I cd it file not found
[17:04] <family`> any one
[17:04] <jackarg> thankyou all I will try
[17:04] <L3top> (depend on libc that is fira)
[17:04] <zanegray> @Hidden cd directory\ with\ spaces
[17:04] <Fira> I think they all do, yeah o_o
[17:05] <escott> !tab | HiddenCloud
[17:05] <dem0n> HiddenCloud: cd fiile\ name
[17:05] <HiddenCloud> o yeah
[17:05] <HiddenCloud> ty
[17:05] <family`> try to use ctrl+h
[17:05] <L3top> Fira: can you apt-get install --reinstall libc6
[17:05] <MadsRC> is there any way to create a link to a folder, that upon deletion of said link won't also delete the content of the linked folder?
[17:05] <piglit> escott: thank you that is what i was looking for ... must get some sleep ik ques
[17:05] <blez> jackarg yes
[17:05] <family`> emacs ye
[17:05] <family`> shafou.com
[17:05] <zanegray> MadsRC ln -s
[17:06] <family`> shafou.com
[17:06] <jrib> MadsRC: that's true of both hard links and symlinks
[17:06] <zanegray> specificially. ln -s linkname directory
[17:06] <MadsRC> zanegray, just testet with ln -s and if I delete the link, I also delete what is in the linked folder
[17:06] <k1l_> family`: no advertising here
[17:06] <family`> it's not advertising! it's a joke
[17:06] <R3TR0> I got a blackscreen after installing a driver update with additional drivers, someone knows a solution?
[17:06] <L3top> !pm | Nikon
[17:06] <jrib> MadsRC: it shouldn't.  Can you show a series of commands that shows otherwise on a pastebin?
[17:06] <zanegray> MadsRC, really? i find that hard to believe
[17:06] <k1l_> family`: lets stick to ubuntu support in here, thanks
[17:06] <Nikon> :3
[17:06] <MadsRC> 2 secs :)
[17:07] <family`> k1l_: OK
[17:07] <L3top> R3TR0: what is the GPU? What driver?
[17:07] <Nikon> i know i just wanted to see what you would do
[17:07] <Nikon> anywho
[17:07] <Nikon> what was that link you all were saying last time?
[17:07] <udi> מי כאן?
[17:07] <Fira> L3top: pretty much anything fails due to unmet deps, including --reinstall'ing libc (even with -f) o_O' ... Might as well just reinstall from scratch, damned thing is a light install on a KVM host and all data is on a different drive... Thanks alot for the help anyhow :S
[17:07] <R3TR0> k1l, i asked him earlier. he told me to press strg alt f1 to open the console. i just tried that but the console didnt show up
[17:07] <udi> ?
[17:07] <udi> ?
[17:07] <L3top> Sorry Fira... that's an ugly rock and hard place
[17:08] <family`> ctrl+alt+T R3TR0
[17:08] <mussa> هاي
[17:08] <k1l_> R3TR0: then try to select the recovery entry in grub menue
[17:08] <MadsRC> You guys were right... Guess it was because I testet it through SMB on a windows machine... Deleting the link on a windows machine through smb deletes the content of the linked folder aswel as the link
[17:08] <R3TR0> ctrl alt and t works in the beginning too?
[17:08] <R3TR0> i start ubuntu and the login screen doesnt show up, only a blackscreen
[17:09] <k1l_> R3TR0: no that only works in the desktop mode
[17:09] <L3top> !hr | udi
[17:09] <k1l_> R3TR0: press shift to get to grub menu and select recovery there
[17:09] <L3top> hmmm... that looks quite wrong...
[17:09] <R3TR0> when do i have to press shift?
[17:09] <R3TR0> when the blackscreen shows up?
[17:09] <L3top> !il
[17:09] <Nikon> L3top: i hate to bug you but was it uedi?
[17:09] <L3top> thats it.
[17:09] <k1l_> R3TR0: when booting
[17:10] <R3TR0> booting? when exactly is that
[17:10] <L3top> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface Nikon
[17:10] <R3TR0> when i chose ubuntu or after it showed the blackscreen
[17:10] <k1l_> R3TR0: instead of choosing ubuntu you need to choose "ubuntu recovery"
[17:10] <GH0> How can I resolve this messag?  postgresql-contrib-9.1 : Depends: libossp-uuid16 but it is not going to be installed
[17:10] <L3top> family`: don't spam in pm.
[17:11] <GH0> Specifically about the part where it determines that it doesn't want to be installed.
[17:11] <GH0> I have tried doing autoclean, clean, purge, autoremove, update, etc. But I can't fix this problem that I am having with apt-get
[17:11] <k1l_> !guidelines > family`
[17:11] <R3TR0> so I start my PC, then there is the Option. I only have 3 options, Windows, Ubuntu and something like windows recovery
[17:12] <L3top> !nomodeset | R3TR0 I would try this. I am assuming you moved to a proprietary driver.
[17:12] <Nikon> pok
[17:12] <Nikon> ok
[17:12] <GH0> If I try to do a sudo apt-get -f install libossp-uuid16 I basically run into a bunch of errors with apt-get
[17:12] <Nikon> how do i over write my windows boot with grub
[17:13] <al__> is there a simple way to set up clamav to 'sudo freshclam' periodically and clamscan periodically without having to deal with cron jobs?
[17:13] <fuxkingUSA> shafou.com
[17:13] <fuxkingUSA> welcome to Jpan
[17:14] <L3top> Nikon: I would chroot the install from a live disk after binding/mounting a lot of things, and grub-install /dev/sd* where * is the drive number.
[17:14] <genii-around> !mbr
[17:14] <LadyNikon> woah there is a Nikon as well
[17:14] <L3top> ty genii-around
[17:14] <Nikon> Hai LadyNikon
[17:14] <Nikon> :3
[17:14] <L3top> That was a much nicer answer than mine... lol
[17:15] <R3TR0> how can i boot from a cd, i burnt the cd with the iso on the download page for ubuntu 12.04 LTS. is that the right one?
[17:16] <L3top> R3TR0: is this a wubi install?
[17:17] <L3top> R3TR0: sorry was confusing your issue with nikons
[17:17] <R3TR0> ahh ok
[17:18] <L3top> R3TR0: yes... that is a good one... but I do not understand the question. how do you boot from a CD? Is that the question?
[17:18] <R3TR0> yeah, kinda
[17:18] <robzye> hey guys im having some problems installing catalyst (amd) on ubuntu 12.10. running a 5xxx card with a i5 (intel). i've checked the web but everytime i find an answer there is always a little step that goes wrong which they don't explain :/
[17:18] <L3top> R3TR0: I would burn it to a usb drive, and in the bios of the device set the device order. The same can be done for CD
[17:18] <R3TR0> ive found this, is that the same? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromCD i guess so
[17:18] <L3top> *device boot order
[17:19] <R3TR0> well, i lost my usb so i have to use the cd
[17:19] <L3top> R3TR0: depending on the device, some have an f key you can hit at startup to choose the boot device, some you will have to change in the bios.
[17:20] <L3top> That is a good link to get you going R3TR0
[17:20] <R3TR0> ahh ok
[17:20] <R3TR0> well, ill try that now
[17:20] <R3TR0> if i still have a question ill come back
[17:21] <dem0n> got to run take care everyone
[17:21] <dem0n> got to play some shadowgun...i luv that game!
[17:21] <zumaz203> Does anyone know how to fix rezolution on login screen?  the upper buttons windows are out of place and cant see them
[17:23] <jyg> I'm using 12.04 for a few months now and just yesterday something strange started where a while after booting up the headphone jack will stop working.  If I shut my computer down, pull out the laptop battery, hit the power button, put the batter back, and then boot up, that's the only way normal headphone functionality is restored
[17:24] <jyg> the "stop working" means, when i plug in the headphone i get no audio from the headphones and the laptop speakers output the audio instead
[17:25] <SonikkuAmerica> jyg: Try [ sudo alsamixer ]
[17:25] <L3top> jyg I would like to see an output of sudo aplay -l in a pastebin
[17:26] <L3top> jyg: chances are this is a pulse issue.
[17:26] <jyg> ok sure... let me set something back to as they were before i started mucking around, and then i'll get that in paste bin, 2 min.  thanks, brb.
[17:27] <SonikkuAmerica> zumaz203, is this lightdm?
[17:27] <L3top> pulse audio... 60% of the time, it works every time.
[17:27] <zumaz203> SonikkuAmerica yes
[17:28] <nearst> hi ppl
[17:28] <SonikkuAmerica> zumaz203, one second...
[17:28] <al__> Does system monitor process list show cpu usage % for 1 of however many cores (ie, how much of a single core that process is using)?  Or does it average across what cpu resources are available?
[17:28] <escott> 60% seems to be a very low estimate
[17:28] <SonikkuAmerica> zumaz203: Run [ xrandr -q ] in a terminal for me.
[17:29] <L3top> every time is a bold statement. I think the math works
[17:29] <escott> al__, at the process level it would show aggregate usage. so with 4 processors one process can use up to 400% of cpu
[17:29] <SonikkuAmerica> L3top: LOL. I believe the Pulse issue got fixed in 12.10, correct me if I'm wrong.
[17:29] <samiasm> can somebody help me with getting my wifi USB to work?
[17:29] <ikillcypher> hi guys how to check if im using x86 or x64 ubuntu
[17:29] <SonikkuAmerica> L3top: That is, the one jyg mentioned
[17:29] <robzye> Ubuntu - the place that make all window's users press 'automatic installation'. why is everything so compliacted ;_;
[17:30] <al__> escott: ah, thanks.  so with 4 cores, 400% is really 100% of capacity.
[17:30] <SonikkuAmerica> ikillcypher: [ uname -a ]
[17:30] <escott> ikillcypher, uname -i
[17:30] <L3top> lotta weird hw out there... gets gooey with subdevices like weirdo swap pluggable headphone jacks in my experience... that could be very true SonikkuAmerica... I am not on quantal... I am a dinosaur.
[17:30] <escott> al__, yes
[17:30] <ikillcypher> i686 ?
[17:30] <ikillcypher> what is that
[17:30] <genii-around> ikillcypher: Or even just uname -i
[17:30] <escott> al__, and fully loaded is 4
[17:30] <SonikkuAmerica> ikillcypher: i686 is advanced 32-bit arch.
[17:30] <escott> ikillcypher, 32bit
[17:31] <ikillcypher> so how do I get a 64bit ubuntu
[17:31] <SonikkuAmerica> L3top: What do mean, dinosaur?
[17:31] <ikillcypher> as I need it for android building
[17:31] <escott> ikillcypher, download the 64bit version and install it
[17:31] <ikillcypher> no other way of upgrading ?
[17:31] <escott> ikillcypher, no
[17:31] <tgm4883_> ikillcypher, nope
[17:31] <L3top> 10.04 is my main use SonikkuAmerica.
[17:31] <SonikkuAmerica> ikillcypher: Make sure your computer is 64-bit capable though.
[17:31] <SonikkuAmerica> L3top: Oh.
[17:32] <samiasm> wifi specialists in here?
[17:32] <ikillcypher> 4GB RAM
[17:32] <SonikkuAmerica> (I could've warned zumaz203 about that.)
[17:32] <genii-around> ikillcypher: To find out if your system is 64bit capable: udo lshw -C cpu| grep width
[17:32] <escott> ikillcypher, so?
[17:32] <tgm4883_> ikillcypher, pastebin 'lscpu'
[17:32] <L3top> samiasm: just ask the real question... if someone knows they will answer
[17:32] <jyg> L3top:   http://pastebin.com/nhn01Df9
[17:33] <SonikkuAmerica> samiasm: If it's Ubuntu-related, we'll gladly answer. Be specific.
[17:33] <genii-around> ikillcypher: I cropped the "s" out of suso in that command, but you get the idea
[17:33] <SonikkuAmerica> *sudo
[17:33] <ikillcypher> yes I did
[17:33] <ikillcypher> width: 64 bits
[17:33] <ikillcypher>  width: 64 bits
[17:33] <ikillcypher>  width: 64 bits
[17:33] <FloodBot1> ikillcypher: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:34] <genii-around> ikillcypher: So, yes, your computer will do the 64bit version
[17:34] <k-stz> compdoc: hey I solved the boot problem: apparently my hdd wasn't "high" enough in the boot sequence of the bios setup...
[17:34] <L3top> Not what I was hoping would be the prob jyg. My guess still lands with pulse.
[17:35] <compdoc> k-stz, yup
[17:35] <samiasm> I got a TL-WN822N and I downloaded drivers from linux wireless. After compiling nothing works. Worked fine before. Had to recompile cause of kernel update
[17:35] <jyg> L3top: what were you suspecting?
[17:35] <ikillcypher> where do I get the x64 bit and I just install over ?
[17:35] <L3top> jyg: I was hoping that you would have two subdevices, one of which being the headphones jack.
[17:36] <samiasm> 12.04 64 bit is what I am using btw
[17:36] <Lofde_> i am ssh'd into a ubuntu box, and i have a command i want to run (i am just running google chrome /opt/google...) i want to 'launch' this on the x:0 screen (tty7) what flags or additions do i need to add in there to tell this thing to run this on the screen of the remote host and not in the ssh window i am logged into?
[17:36] <SonikkuAmerica> samiasm: Compilation or run-time errors?
[17:36] <SonikkuAmerica> ikillcypher: http://ubottu.com/y/dl
[17:36] <L3top> jyg: that I can fix... my pulse fix is always the same. Remove it. See if it does what you want. I fear that is not the recommended solution.
[17:36] <jyg> L3top:  what was stranger, before my full power-off, i booted to windows and it suffered the same problem.  its almost as those the audio system on ubuntu freaks the card out in some way
[17:37] <blez> Have a new PC with the Windows 8 logo or using UEFI firmware?
[17:37] <blez> Please use a 64-bit flavour of Ubuntu desktop.
[17:37] <blez> Learn more ›
[17:37] <mihajlo> hy I need help
[17:37] <blez> what about 32bit ?
[17:37] <samiasm> don't think so. Can I redo the process to find out if there are any errors?
[17:37] <FloodBot1> blez: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:37] <L3top> jyg: not the answer... more likely hardware problem if it is floating across OSs
[17:37] <SonikkuAmerica> blez: (Please watch your flooding) Typically because Windows 8 hardware and UEFI hardware use 64-bit processors.
[17:38] <SonikkuAmerica> blez: You'll NEED the 64-bit version to run it on UEFI hardware.
[17:38] <zlatan> hi, when I start skype I get Segmentation fault...what is solution to this?
[17:38] <escott> Lofde_, you want it to display on the ssh servers X server and not on the ssh clients X server
[17:38] <mihajlo> I instaled ubuntu 12.10 on my new notebook and i cant boot, i get error 'starting cpu interrupts balancing daemon'
[17:39] <Lofde_> escott, yes
[17:39] <escott> Lofde_, in that case you would "export DISPLAY=:0"
[17:39] <mihajlo> can someone help....
[17:39] <mihajlo> I instaled ubuntu 12.10 on my new notebook and i cant boot, i get error 'starting cpu interrupts balancing daemon'
[17:39] <SonikkuAmerica> !patience | mihajlo
[17:39] <escott> Lofde_, and then probably also set XAUTHORITY=~/.Xauthority
[17:40] <dmku> samiasm, i'm not sure, that you had to build the driver. This page tell, that  one of default modules supports your device: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsTP-Link
[17:40] <SonikkuAmerica> mihajlo: You'll need to send "nomodeset" to GRUB for your install to work
[17:40] <Lofde_>  /opt/google/chrome/google-chrome  --start-maximized --kiosk http://www.google.com   (here is my command escott where in that would those strings go)
[17:41] <samiasm> it does. The connection broke down often though and it got better after building the new drivers. I just have to recompile after kernel updates which is pretty annoying
[17:41] <mihajlo> SonikkuAmerica: can you explain me how to do that, im new to linux...
[17:41] <blez> SonikkuAmerica so, no 32bit support.. ever?
[17:41] <SonikkuAmerica> mihajlo: To do that, when the Ubuntu start screen shows up from your live media, hit F6 and select "nomodeset" from the menu.
[17:41] <escott> Lofde_, you will need to use env or run it in a shell
[17:41] <escott> Lofde_, if you dont want to export that is
[17:42] <SonikkuAmerica> blez: I didn't say that, but 32-bit installs simply do not work on UEFI Secure Boot. They will if you still have a BIOS though.
[17:42] <SonikkuAmerica> *They = 32-bit installs
[17:42] <escott> Lofde_, you can locally declare env variables for a command with bash as VARIABLE=value /executable --options
[17:42] <blez> so when will a 32bit version be released? Any info?
[17:43] <SonikkuAmerica> blez: There are 32-bit versions on Ubuntu's download page: http://ubottu.com/y/dl
[17:43] <escott> SonikkuAmerica, is that true? i know the boot loader would have to be a 64bit bootloaders, but can a 64bit bootloader not boot a 32bit kernel?
[17:43] <blez> no, 32bit version that work with UEFI
[17:44] <escott> blez, there are some complexities because with bios it is in 16bit mode until the kernel starts, with UEFI64 (which is what windows has) then it is in 64bit mode before the kernel is booted
[17:44] <tgm4883_> blez, read this for more info https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1025555
[17:44] <SirNikon> hi
[17:44] <escott> blez, besides 64bit is better and you have the hardware so just use it
[17:44] <Lofde_> escott, sweet thank you!
[17:44] <tgm4883_> escott, +1
[17:44] <blez> I don't have the hardware..
[17:44] <blez> my cpu is 32bit
[17:44] <ikonia> that's unlikley
[17:44] <hunterdouglas> Hello, I am having some difficulty interpreting the output of fdisk -l on a dedicated server i just rented, I am told that there are 4 physical HDDs, 2 120GB SSD's and 2 2TB HDD's, the SSD's being used in raid1 and the HDD's not being mounted or partitioned yet,
[17:44] <ikonia> as yoiu have an EFI board
[17:44] <escott> blez, then you dont have Windows 8 UEFI
[17:45] <SonikkuAmerica> escott: You are correct. A 32-bit EFI can boot a 32-bit kernel; a 64-bit EFI can boot a 64-bit kernel, but neither EFI can load the opposite kernel (is my understanding).
[17:45] <SonikkuAmerica> *UEFI
[17:45] <blez> http://ark.intel.com/products/70105/Intel-Atom-Processor-Z2760-1MB-Cache-1_80-GHz
[17:45] <blez> Instruction Set	32-bit
[17:45] <tgm4883_> blez, what laptop do you have
[17:45] <blez> Acer W510
[17:45] <blez> it's a tablet/laptop
[17:46] <SonikkuAmerica> "OS kernel architecture (32 or 64-bit) must be the same as the EFI architecture (unless "eficross" is used, which is available from kernel 3.4)"
[17:46] <hunterdouglas> can you help me interpret this?  fdisk -l output http://pastebin.com/jWKLKqaG
[17:46] <SirNikon> how do i fix this
[17:46] <SirNikon> http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z421/karou_/50BBB77F-F204-467D-8BE6-EBA4DB950556-1805-000000FA434EDBFA_zpsccab7a40.jpg
[17:46] <tgm4883_> blez, I doubt you are using UEFI on that
[17:46] <SonikkuAmerica> So if one has 12.10 and eficross it might work.
[17:46] <rhughes> hello
[17:46] <blez> tgm4883 it's uefi.
[17:47] <ikonia> blez: then you have a 64bit cpu
[17:47] <blez> SonikkuAmerica I tried 12.10 with wubi, month ago, it didn't worked
[17:47] <blez> ikonia read the specs
[17:47] <hunterdouglas> i would like to use the 2 TB HDD's as /home but i am at a loss for the use of fdisk
[17:48] <escott> hunterdouglas, don't use fdisk. use parted or gparted
[17:48] <ikonia> blez: that cpu won't be on an EFI board though
[17:48] <SirNikon> LadyNikon: hey
[17:48] <ikonia> blez: what board are you using
[17:49] <tgm4883_> blez, Note: The 32-bit editions of Windows don't support UEFI features. Only 64-bit editions of Windows can take advantage of the features that 64-bit UEFI firmware enables. Fortunately, the CSM in current UEFI implementations enables 32-bit operating systems and other operating systems that don't support UEFI to boot on hardware that has UEFI firmware. But, operating systems that require a CSM to boot can't use UEFI-specific features because the
[17:49] <tgm4883_>  CSM emulates earlier BIOS.
[17:49] <tgm4883_> so it sounds like it's just running in legacy mode
[17:50] <scooby> I am running xubuntu and have two users.  I would like the system to auto-log-in to the user scooby when the system starts rather than asking me whih user.  How do I do this?
[17:50] <JimmyNeutron> After installing Ubuntu 12.10 in VBox 4.2.6, it ask me to hit enter to reboot.  After hitting the Enter key, the system says "The system is going down for reboot now!" and just hangs there.  Anyone encounter this?
[17:50] <tgm4883_> yes, CSM is the BIOS mode
[17:50] <blez> I have no idea from UEFI
[17:50] <hunterdouglas> escott:  i still do not understand what i am looking for exactly, never done anything like this before
[17:50] <blez> my older laptops didn't had it
[17:51] <tgm4883_> blez, basically, you are using BIOS mode
[17:51] <blez> I'm pretty sure it's UEFI..
[17:51] <tgm4883_> blez, so just install 32-bit ubuntu
[17:51] <blez> it didn't worked.
[17:51] <tgm4883_> blez, did you not just read what I posted
[17:51] <tgm4883_> blez, for what reason didn't it work?
[17:51] <escott> hunterdouglas, well start by describing what you need to do
[17:52] <blez> I don't know. After rebooting with WUBI it said something like "Fixing problems..." it took like 30mins and after restart it runned win8 again
[17:52] <blez> that was month+ ago
[17:52] <hunterdouglas> i have a server, with 4 physical hard drives in it, i am told that they are in 2 raid 1 pairs. i need to know where each partition is currently mounted, if even mounted. and configure them so that the 2TB disks are mounted as /home
[17:53] <gigatropolis> is there a schedule for adding libreoffice 4.0 to ubuntu 12.10 ?
[17:53] <JimmyNeutron> hunterdouglas, run mount
[17:53] <escott> hunterdouglas, and cat /proc/mdstat
[17:53] <blez> and that was with disabled secureboot
[17:54] <benjad> Anybody good with install issues.  Savage S3 video card, trying to install.  worked in 12.04, can't get usable screen on live CD to install on 12.10 for ubuntu, or lubuntu
[17:54] <ikonia> savage S3 - wow, that's old
[17:55] <benjad> yup, tried lubuntu, but screen always corrupts, so came back to ubuntu, and having same issue.. worked in 12.04
[17:55] <benjad> can't install from graphic live cd
[17:55] <ikonia> tried safe graphics mode
[17:55] <k1l_> gigatropolis: i dont think that is gonna to happen
[17:56] <SonikkuAmerica> benjad: Try using "nomodeset": When the Ubuntu start menu pops up, select you language, press F6 and select "nomodeset" from the menu.
[17:56] <benjad> how do I get to it
[17:56] <hunterdouglas> right now /dev/md2 is on /home (98GB) and /dev/md0 is on /data (1908GB)
[17:57] <benjad> screen is corrupted from the get-go.. the I get the    symbol = symbol, and the 12.10 , but hte 1st menu screen is corrupted, can;t get to launguage slection
[17:57] <escott> hunterdouglas, and what do you want
[17:57] <hunterdouglas> i would like to switch them around so that /dev/md0 is on /home 1908GB, and /dev/md2 is on /data 98 GB
[17:57] <R3TR0> im back, i managed to start booting from the cd and opened the console
[17:57] <ikonia> hunterdouglas: just change the mount points in fstab and reboot
[17:57] <escott> hunterdouglas, well thats going to be time consuming. you will just have to copy everything around
[17:57] <ikonia> or unmount/remount
[17:57] <hunterdouglas> escott:  it is a brand new server with nothing AFAIK in either location
[17:57] <SonikkuAmerica> benjad: That giant menu that you see after the "symbol = symbol" won't appear?
[17:58] <khaos> hello, is there anyway to remap the fn keyboard shortcuts for a laptop? I'm using 12.10 64
[17:58] <escott> hunterdouglas, then just change the mountpoints in /etc/fstab
[17:58] <benjad> yup.. i get the equals screen.. the 12.10 with the changing dots appears, but the menu is corrupt.  same thing happens with lubuntu
[17:58] <R3TR0> l3top, is there a list of drivers which you can download from the "Additional Drivers" tab?
[17:59] <SonikkuAmerica> benjad: You are aware that you have to select "Try Ubuntu" or "Install Ubuntu" first?
[17:59] <L3top> R3TR0: if you can tell me what your hardware is, I can tell you the best driver for it
[17:59] <SonikkuAmerica> benjad: before you get all that
[17:59] <hunterdouglas> change mount points then reboot? that simple?
[17:59] <ikonia> hunterdouglas: yup
[17:59] <hunterdouglas> huh, thanks ikonia , escott. you two have been wonderful
[18:00] <R3TR0> i5 CPU 3.20 GHz 6 GB RAM Ati Radeon HD 5750 64 Bit
[18:00] <alo21> hi...
[18:01] <L3top> R3TR0: give me a second and I will give you a pastebin of what to do
[18:01] <escott> hunterdouglas, you will have a small set of files in /home you should copy over but it wont be much
[18:01] <R3TR0> L3top: the thing is, that ive installed a driver from the additional drivers and i want to uninstall it. is that possible if i boot from the cd and use the console there?
[18:01] <hunterdouglas> actually, there was no data at all escott
[18:02] <JimmyNeutron> hunterdouglas, If it's a clean system with not much data on it, why not just reinstall again from scratch?
[18:02] <khaos> hello, is there anyway to remap the fn keyboard shortcuts for a laptop? I'm using 12.10 64
[18:02] <escott> hunterdouglas, /home wont be empty
[18:02] <hunterdouglas> JimmyNeutron: i dont have access to reinstall and configure
[18:02] <hunterdouglas> escott:  i have looked, there was nothing in /home
[18:03] <escott> hunterdouglas, that should not be the case
[18:03] <JimmyNeutron> hunterdouglas, Doing it remotely? if yes, then okay.
[18:03] <L3top> http://www.pastebin.ca/2316914
[18:03] <L3top> R3TR0: ^
[18:04] <L3top> R3TR0: type exit when done so you arent running amok as root
[18:04] <esph> Any recommendations for a backup software? I'll be RMA-ing a laptop, which will be wiped (because they test it with windows, they say), and I want to be able to return it like it was when it gets back.
[18:04] <yeats> !backup | esph
[18:04] <R3TR0> so i paste these lines you sent me
[18:04] <R3TR0> and after that is done i write "exit"
[18:05] <R3TR0> is that right?
[18:05] <yeats> esph: I would personally avoid deja dup/duplicity for that, FYI
[18:05] <jackarg> hello I have an acer with windows 8 64 bit and I want to know why the ubuntu cd installer goes straight to the demo version and dosen't give me the standard option menu
[18:06] <yeats> jackarg: you can press a key when booting to get the menu
[18:06] <esph> yeats: so HomeUserBackup or MondoMindi would work for me?
[18:06] <jackarg> yeats: what do you mean?
[18:06] <dmku> I have question about output redirecting. For ex, I try to test logrotate: #logrotate -d /etc/logrotate.conf > logtest
[18:06] <dmku> But only part of output will be redirected to file, and other strings will be displayed on the standard output. What can I do to redirect all output of this command?
[18:06] <ania_> you are being watched
[18:07] <hunterdouglas> either way, i got it now with no ill effects, it was literally a fresh install of 10.04, Old i know but some of my software has issues with the version of vsftpd bundled with 12.04 +
[18:07] <yeats> esph: I haven't used those.  The reason for my cautioning against duplicity/deja dup is that the files are stored opaquely and are not easily browseable.
[18:07] <L3top> correct R3TR0
[18:07] <yeats> jackarg: when the live cd starts you can press a key to get to the menu
[18:08] <yeats> jackarg: it doesn't present the menu by default
[18:08] <jackarg> so before it goes into the live demo version I press any key for it to show up?
[18:09] <relapse> Hi, is it worth installing the 13.04 beta? Or should I just wait another month.
[18:09] <archbsdace> relapse: best to wait till release
[18:09] <archbsdace> relapse: if you do decide to try before release help is in #ubuntu+1
[18:10] <yeats> jackarg: I don't have one handy to test, but yes, I think it will come up with any key - if not, maybe Esc or shift?
[18:10] <relapse> Word
[18:10] <BluesKaj> relapse, lots of ppl are trying 13.04 , includiong me , best to ask in #ubuntu+1 though
[18:11] <R3TR0> L3top: The lines after <enter password>, do i paste all of them at once in or one after one
[18:11] <relapse> I'm experiencing a lot of issues with xubuntu that I do NOT experience in ubuntu. Would I experience the same issues if I installed ubuntu and then xubuntu-desktop?
[18:11] <bodq> can you recomment a tiling window manager? I've tried ion3 and xmonad. are there other worthwhile options?
[18:11] <relapse> bodq: dwm
[18:11] <relapse> or awesomewm
[18:12] <hunterdouglas> i cannot seem to install openjdk-7-jre using apt-get any tips?
[18:12] <JimmyNeutron> Anyone still encountering the Low graphics mode error every now and then?  Most of the time, it boots up fine, but every now and then, I encounter the low graphics mode.
[18:12] <JimmyNeutron> this is 12.10 w/ all the latest patch and Bumblebee installed
[18:12] <bodq> relapse, thanks. did you it with xinerama?
[18:12] <relapse> nah
[18:12] <dmku> bodq awesome is awesome.
[18:13] <napster> Please let me know if anyone succeeds in dual booting your GNex with Android and Ubuntu
[18:13] <jackarg> yeats: i pressed all that while there was the ubuntu logo on the purple bkg with the loading dots. It jumped straight to the live version.
[18:14] <intrader> My laptop is overheating (pSensor(temp2)>97C and shuts down while displaying video - linux 12.10 . The laptop is a lenovo t61 - same video on XP with same browser (firefox) does not overheat.
[18:15] <k-stz> I got the pci wlan-card "pce-n13" on ubuntu 12.04 but it loaded with the wrong (module?).. lspci shows it with RT2790 but I know it must be RT2860. It finds networks but can't connect to WPA networks, any help?
[18:16] <moitim> salut
[18:17] <hunterdouglas> openjdk-7-jre has no instalation candidate? and i need java 7 for a server
[18:17] <ikonia> !java | hunterdouglas
[18:18] <mihajlo> I instaled ubuntu 12.10 on my new notebook and i cant boot, i stop at 'starting cpu interrupts balancing daemon'
[18:18] <abcdeef> hello
[18:18] <scooby> I want to logout from the command line, when I do gnome-session-quit I get a WARNING, Failed to call logout and it does not work - how do I logout from the command line
[18:18] <hunterdouglas> ikonia:  this is on a server, only CLI is available
[18:18] <abcdeef> how can i become a master of internet?
[18:19] <ikonia> hunterdouglas: so ?
[18:19] <ikonia> abcdeef: grow up
[18:19] <ikonia> !topic | abcdeef
[18:19] <layer3> [troy] l op me
[18:19] <datruth> I'm using virutalbox (windows xp)  as my guest o/s and I'd like to use my microphone in windows xp how an I do this?
[18:19] <JimmyNeutron> abcdeef, Browse the internet for life? :)
[18:19] <layer3> [troy] l op troy
[18:19] <ikonia> layer3: stop
[18:19] <layer3> Huh
[18:19] <abcdeef> thanks Jimmy
[18:19] <abcdeef> i do that
[18:20] <abcdeef> i would like to master internet,and know everything
[18:20] <ikonia> abcdeef: last warning - STOP
[18:20] <ikonia> !topic | abcdeef
[18:20] <hunterdouglas> i used apt-get install openjdk-7-jre  earlier today on a different server without issue, yet on this one it will not install
[18:20] <ikonia> !info openjdk-7-jre
[18:20] <ikonia> hunterdouglas: package is valid, update your repo cache and check again
[18:21] <ikonia> hunterdouglas: keep in mind it's a 12.10 package
[18:21] <ikonia> (in that example)
[18:21] <hunterdouglas> used apt-get update several times, still gives me no installation candidate error
[18:21] <ikonia> hunterdouglas: please read what I just said
[18:21] <synaesthetik> I am trying to install  a dualboot of ubuntu studio with osx and I keep getting this error: attempt to mount a file system with type vfat in sda1 failed
[18:22] <hunterdouglas> ikonia:  half of what you just said i do not understand fully
[18:22] <ikonia> synaesthetik: what model macbook
[18:22] <synaesthetik> late 2009
[18:22] <ikonia> hunterdouglas: ok - so what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[18:22] <synaesthetik> I forget the exact number
[18:22] <ikonia> synaesthetik: are you using refit ?
[18:22] <synaesthetik> yes
[18:22] <hunterdouglas> 10.04 server 64 bit
[18:22] <ikonia> synaesthetik: you're disk shoudn't be "vfat" as far as I'm aware
[18:22] <synaesthetik> i didn't format it as that
[18:23] <ikonia> !info openjdk-7-jre lucid
[18:23] <chiptek> Hallo! I installed Ubuntu 12.10 earlier and I was wondering if this channel could give me some instructions if it's possible to move the sidebar to a "traditional" taskbar at the bottom. 'tis driving me quite mad.
[18:23] <ikonia> hunterdouglas: ok, so that is not a valid 10.04 package from the official ubuntu repos
[18:23] <ikonia> hunterdouglas: so either your other machines are not 10.04 or you are using an external repo
[18:23] <hunterdouglas> that is going to be an issue then. i need java 7 for some apps to run, guess i should restart with 11.10
[18:24] <ikonia> hunterdouglas: 11.10 is out of support
[18:24] <ikonia> (pretty much)
[18:24] <hunterdouglas> i CANT user 12+
[18:24] <decci> Hi Guys
[18:24] <ikonia> hunterdouglas: why ?
[18:24] <FrankieBoyz> hi
[18:24] <synaesthetik> ikonia i didn't format anything as vfat
[18:24] <hunterdouglas> vsftpd issues with the management software i use prevents FTP access except to SFTP users, and i need access to standard FTP as well
[18:25] <ikonia> hunterdouglas: ...sorry don't see how that's a problem with a 12.X release ?
[18:25]  * FrankieBoyz Picture of my whore cheating ex-girlfriend naked: http://imagetwist.com/isaz6v8d77nj
[18:25] <decci> I tried installing Clonezilla on Ubuntu 12.04. I can PXE boot client machine through server though I am facing some issue. All I would like to know how shall I configure server so that I can push Windows Xp images for client to get installed
[18:25] <ikonia> decci: did we suggest where to get this information eaerlier ?
[18:26] <ikonia> earlier
[18:26] <decci> ikonia: Yes
[18:26] <ikonia> decci: ok, good, so you know where to get it
[18:26] <decci> ikonia: But I am not getting help from the forum
[18:26] <rainy> i cant join ircnet :o
[18:26] <hunterdouglas> the problem is the management software i use automatically installs the most recent version of VSFTPD, which has issues with this software when ran on 12+, when ran on 10.04 10.10 or 11.04, it runs fine with no issues
[18:26] <ikonia> decci: that is the place to get the help
[18:26] <trollboy> I'm out of hardware and a long time linux user.. aeons ago when the earth was young I abandoned ATI cards in favor of being a Nvidia brand whore.. has ATI decided to play nice with linux now, or should I stick with Nvidia?
[18:26] <ikonia> hunterdouglas: vsftpd work on 12.x
[18:27] <ikonia> trollboy: tone it down
[18:27] <escott> hunterdouglas, sftp is unrelated to ftp
[18:27] <hunterdouglas> not with the software I am using it doesnt
[18:27] <ikonia> hunterdouglas: I assure you it does
[18:27] <ikonia> hunterdouglas: it's an ftp server
[18:27] <trollboy> ikonia, sorry, I should have said "fanboy", but that said... my question still stands, is ATI linux-safe or should I stick with Nvidia?
[18:27] <ikonia> nothing more
[18:27] <ikonia> trollboy: it's the toss of a coin, depends on your specific hardware, research the cards you want to buy
[18:27] <archbsdace> trollboy: both work here
[18:28] <hunterdouglas> ikonia:  http://www.ehcp.net/?q=node/1391
[18:28] <cerebrate> how do i change my color scheme to reversed emphasis, in the sense of visible text on an invisible background like in the old programs, in xchat
[18:28] <trollboy> awesome... I remember back in the day ATI required a lot of heavy handed hacking.. I'm more of a fire and forget it kinda guy
[18:28] <Hasselsaurus> NVidia tends to play nicer with proprietary drivers in my experience
[18:28] <trollboy> thanks!
[18:28] <Hasselsaurus> If you have the option, still go NVidia or Intel, IMO
[18:28] <Bauer> is there any way to allow Ubuntu's Terminal in GTK to copy text when I select it? like Putty does in windows
[18:28] <Hasselsaurus> but both do work
[18:28] <rahulsuman> hi
[18:29] <SiegeLord> Does ubuntu get it's packages from Debian unstable or Debian testing?
[18:29] <ikonia> hunterdouglas: just reading
[18:29] <escott> SiegeLord, i think it has varied based on the release. usually it is from unstable?
[18:29] <trollboy> SiegeLord, I don't believe so, not for some time
[18:30] <maxbit> hy
[18:30] <ikonia> hunterdouglas: there is a fix in that forum post
[18:30] <hunterdouglas> yeah, removing 2.5 and installing 2.3 which i have had no luck with
[18:31] <ikonia> hunterdouglas: no
[18:31] <Guest28754> can someone please explain to the the steps of finding a drive thats plugged in and mounting that drive?
[18:31] <ikonia> hunterdouglas: changing the chroot_local_user setting
[18:31] <maxbit> can some one help me with my touch screen i have 3 monitors and one of them has a touch surface but if i touch on it takes the whole desktop as a reference is there a way to bind it on a display???
[18:32] <hunterdouglas> this one sudo sed -i 's/chroot_local_user=YES/chroot_local_user=NO/g' /etc/vsftpd.conf sudo service vsftpd restart ?
[18:32] <ikonia> hunterdouglas: that says it's tested and working
[18:32] <trollboy> has ubuntu sussed out 3+ monitors on multiple video cards yet?
[18:33] <trollboy> that was an issue like.. 6 months ago
[18:33] <ikonia> trollboy: that's not an ubuntu issue
[18:33] <hunterdouglas> well i guess i am going to spend another 2 hours reinstalling and configuring again...
[18:33] <ikonia> trollboy: that's an issue with certain propritary drivers
[18:33] <rahulsuman> can someone please suggest me a channel for a irc newbie?
[18:33] <ikonia> hunterdouglas: I'really suggest checking information properly
[18:33] <archbsdace> rahulsuman: #freenode
[18:34] <jackarg> I have now the ubuntu installer running on my acer which i bought with windows 8 (64 bit) and it does not recognize windows 8 as an operating system. I now need to edit a partition I think, but I have no idea how. Any help or other options?
[18:34] <rahulsuman> thanks, and how do i leave this channel
[18:34] <archbsdace> rahulsuman: /part
[18:34] <hunterdouglas> i am sorry ikonia, i dont have to go through this very often, and i can not remember absolutely every detail
[18:34] <ikonia> rahulsuman: /part
[18:34] <ikonia> hunterdouglas: it's fine, it's just wise to check things out before rushing into assumptions
[18:34] <ikonia> hunterdouglas: eg: the thread you said showed it worked...also gave a solution if you read it fully
[18:35] <hunterdouglas> yeah, i wasnt trying to assume anything i just remember i used to use 10.04 without any issues at all, so i wanted to go back to it after running into countless issues with 12.04 on my last server
[18:35] <hunterdouglas> ill put a ticket in to reinstall to 12.04 then, Thanks again ikonia
[18:36] <ikonia> hunterdouglas: if you hit problems, come back and we'll worth them through
[18:36] <ikonia> hunterdouglas: I'm confident any issue will be config rather than a genuine blocker
[18:36] <hunterdouglas> yep, thanks ikonia you have been a wonderful help
[18:36] <ikonia> hunterdouglas: vsftpd has been stable for a long time and it's just a dumb ftp server....it's hard to "break" it
[18:37] <hunterdouglas> should i go with 12.04 or 12.10
[18:37] <ikonia> hunterdouglas: 12.04 if you want an LTS supported server
[18:37] <hunterdouglas> k ty
[18:38] <HQRaja> Hello. I have installed Ubuntu 12.10 on my HP Pavilion dv6 and when I connect it to my Dell ST2420L monitor via HDMI, nothing happens. I also checked in System Settings > Display, and the only monitor available is the Laptop one. Can anyone please help with this?
[18:39] <HQRaja> The machine has ATI Mobility Radeon Premium Graphics card, though I haven't configured any additional drivers for it post installation. Will I need to do that?
[18:39] <ikonia>  /last trollboy
[18:40] <HQRaja> ikonia: In case you're referring to me, I'm not trolling.
[18:40] <ikonia> HQRaja: err no
[18:41] <HQRaja> Oh OK
[18:42] <HQRaja> So, anyone?
[18:43] <HQRaja> I could really use some help
[18:46] <trollboy> ikonia?
[18:47] <MonkeyDust> HQRaja  i have intel myself, but did you read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[18:47] <HQRaja> MonkeyDust: Thanks, I haven't but judging by the URL, I think this will help.
[18:48] <ikonia> trollboy: typo
[18:48] <trollboy> fair enough
[18:48] <trollboy> I get that a lot
[18:49] <synaesthetik> ikonia
[18:49] <synaesthetik> are you able to help me?
[18:49] <ikonia> what's up ?
[18:49] <ikonia> have you asked the channel ?
[18:49] <synaesthetik> yes
[18:50] <mihajlo> I instaled ubuntu 12.10 on my new notebook and i cant boot, i get error 'starting cpu interrupts balancing daemon'....
[18:50] <mihajlo> pls help someone
[18:50] <ikonia> synaesthetik: what can I help with ?
[18:50] <synaesthetik> the vfat error in install
[18:50] <synaesthetik> same thing
[18:50] <ikonia> synaesthetik:....ok, so check sda1 - see what file system is on it, then look at how / why it's trying to mount it vfat if it's not vfat
[18:51] <mihajlo> I instaled ubuntu 12.10 on my new notebook and i cant boot, i get error 'starting cpu interrupts balancing daemon'...
[18:51] <synaesthetik> sda is the refit partition
[18:51] <synaesthetik> sda1 i mean
[18:51] <ikonia> synaesthetik: sda is a disk
[18:51] <ikonia> ahh ok
[18:51] <ikonia> so that maybe why it's vfat
[18:51] <ikonia> synaesthetik: so what part of the process is erroring ?
[18:52] <mihajlo> I instaled ubuntu 12.10 on my new notebook and i cant boot, i get error 'starting cpu interrupts balancing daemon'
[18:52] <angs> how can I delete a .deb package that is installed by dpkg -i
[18:52] <ikonia> angs: dpkg will remove it
[18:52] <synaesthetik> after i finish setting up the partitions and click install it pretty much immediately gives me that error
[18:52] <mihajlo> ikonia can you help?
[18:52] <ikonia> synaesthetik: so this is he installer that's failing, not the boot process /
[18:53] <synaesthetik> right
[18:53] <ikonia> synaesthetik: ok, can you manually check sda1 - see what state it's in
[18:53] <synaesthetik> how do i do that?
[18:53] <synaesthetik> gparted?
[18:53] <ikonia> synaesthetik: manually try to mount it, gparted, sure
[18:54] <mihajlo> ikonia: I have boot problem can you help....
[18:54] <ikonia> mihajlo: not at the moment,
[18:54] <synaesthetik> ikonia i don't think i can mount with gparted
[18:54] <synaesthetik> what is the terminal command
[18:55] <ikonia> synaesthetik: 1.) check if /dev/sda1 exists 2.) try to mount it if it does, 3.) check the contents of it (should be empty if it can't mount it)
[18:55] <archbsdace> synaesthetik: mount /dev/whatever /mountpoint
[18:55] <OerHeks> mihajlo, maybe the nomodeset option helps booting
[18:56] <OerHeks> !nomodeset
[18:56] <jackarg> can anybody help with creating a partition when installing ubuntu on windows 8?
[18:56] <synaesthetik> archsdace: what if i'm running a live boot cd
[18:57] <wachpwnski> why does linux quality seem to be sucking more and more this year?
[18:57] <synaesthetik> what would the mountpoint be
[18:57] <archbsdace> synaesthetik: the mount command doesn't differ
[18:57] <ikonia> synaesthetik: anything you want
[18:57] <wachpwnski> mint, arch etc. all failing terribly
[18:57] <archbsdace> wachpwnski: this channel is for ubuntu support
[18:59] <wachpwnski> archbsdace:  good, what is a good way to go about getting ubuntu installed minified with cinnamon?
[18:59] <ikonia> wachpwnski: you don't do that
[18:59] <archbsdace> wachpwnski: cinnamon isn't supported on ubuntu
[18:59] <energy> !ru
[18:59] <wachpwnski> :/ now we can add ubuntu to that list
[19:00] <mihajlo> can some one help me with seting up nomodeset... im new to this and cant understand most of the things
[19:00] <escott> mihajlo, starting cpu interrupts daemon is not an error
[19:01] <mihajlo> escott: i know its not error i misstiped... but anyway it stops there
[19:02] <mihajlo> escott: can you help me with seting nomode...
[19:02] <escott> !nomodeset | mihajlo
[19:02] <synaesthetik> k ikonia it isn't letting me mount from here
[19:02] <ikonia> synaesthetik: ok, I suspect that is your problem
[19:02] <metasansana> Does ubuntu have a javascript library?
[19:02] <ikonia> synaesthetik: did you verify the partition exists
[19:03] <ikonia> metasansana: it's not a library
[19:03] <energy> 1
[19:03] <metasansana> ikonia: what is it then and where do I find it/
[19:03] <mihajlo> escott: i saw that but still not get it...(im noob).. where to write that code?
[19:03] <synaesthetik> the partition is showing up on gparted
[19:03] <ikonia> metasansana: it's part of your browser
[19:03] <jackarg> can anybody help me with partitioning on the live ubuntu cd?
[19:04] <ikonia> metasansana: try putting a file system on it, verify it by mounting it, then unmount it, and try the installer again
[19:04] <metasansana> ikonia: huh?
[19:04] <Bauer> is there any way to allow Ubuntu's Terminal in GTK to copy text when I select it? like Putty does in windows
[19:04] <ikonia> metasansana: what do you want to do ?
[19:04] <behemoth123> I have a Compaq 6715b laptop with a fingerprint reader and ubuntu 12.04 LTS installed. I am trying to get the fingerprint reader to work. I have tried installing fingerprint -gui, but it keeps saying no device is found.
[19:04] <ikonia> Bauer: it does that already
[19:04] <ikonia> Bauer: text you hilight is copied
[19:04] <metasansana> I'm on http://developer.ubuntu.com/
[19:04] <mihajlo> Still waiting for someone to explain me how to set no mode option,,,
[19:04] <jrib> Bauer: it does that, just use middle click to paste
[19:05] <jrib> !nomodeset | mihajlo
[19:05] <ikonia> mihajlo: try reading the information you've been given 3 times
[19:05] <metasansana> So far I see C and python stuff, I was wondering about javascript support.
[19:05] <escott> mihajlo, it will tell you in that link
[19:05] <ikonia> metasansana: it will support javascript as that's in the browser
[19:05] <Bauer> hmm, thanks ikonia , I must have had weird bug, indeed it works now
[19:06] <metasansana> ikonia: I don't mean for web, I mean for desktop applications.
[19:06] <metasansana> Specifically messing around with unity.
[19:06] <ikonia> metasansana:.....javascript is for browsers.....
[19:06] <metasansana> ikonia: JavaScript left the browser a long time ago.
[19:06] <metasansana> node.js?
[19:06] <hunterdouglas> ok ikonia the reinstall took my 2 2TB drives out of raid, the other two are fine, im not entirely sure how to use parted to set it up, looks like mkpart /dev/sdc /dev/sdb raid1 0 end or something like that
[19:06] <ikonia> it's still parsed by the same library
[19:07] <ikonia> hunterdouglas: is the raid software, hardware or fakeraid ?
[19:07] <metasansana> So I guess there is no unity javascript api then?
[19:07] <hunterdouglas> software
[19:07] <ikonia> hunterdouglas: madadm assemble to re-assmble the array
[19:07] <ikonia> hunterdouglas: mdadm sorry
[19:08] <savio> anybody tried new ubuntu phone os>
[19:09] <ikonia> savio: try #ubuntu-phone
[19:09] <MonkeyDust> !phone | savio
[19:09] <hunterdouglas> can i create a new raid1?
[19:09] <ikonia> hunterdouglas: do you want to create a new raid ? or just re-assemble the old one ?
[19:09] <hunterdouglas> new
[19:10] <wachpwnski> why would you want a ubuntu phone when you can have a window 8 phone that is so much better. :D
[19:10] <ikonia> hunterdouglas: then do that then
[19:10] <savio> ikonia, MonkeyDust i know that i just ask you guys
[19:10] <hunterdouglas> old didnt have anything on it
[19:10] <ikonia> wachpwnski: stop it
[19:10] <ikonia> savio: ask in the right channel then
[19:10] <ikonia> especially if you know the right channel
[19:10] <mihajlo> escott: again get black screen with dash blinking...
[19:11] <wachpwnski> ikonia: stop what?
[19:11] <joe_onereb> Am I free to use any old video card  for Ubuntu or is there a particular one that works better with linux?
[19:11] <ikonia> wachpwnski: the trolling
[19:11] <wachpwnski> I'm being serious…
[19:12] <ikonia> joe_onereb: you need a certain power one, to get the 3d effects, and one which supports 3d acceleration in linux
[19:12] <ikonia> wachpwnski: he asked if anyone had tried it, not "please trolling me with windows is better flame"
[19:12] <wachpwnski> I work for best buy mobile and I am a realistic authority on it
[19:12] <ikonia> wachpwnski: you'r enot
[19:12] <ikonia> wachpwnski: this channel is for ubuntu support, not your makerting spew
[19:12] <escott> mihajlo, if you want help you need to learn how to ask questions that can be answered
[19:12] <wachpwnski> fair enough
[19:13] <escott> mihajlo, either "you did it wrong" or "your problem isnt modesetting"
[19:13] <synaesthetik> ummm
[19:13] <joe_onereb> does anyone know one card in particular that deffinatly works?
[19:13] <synaesthetik> ikonia
[19:13] <synaesthetik> look at this
[19:13] <ikonia> !hcl | joe_onereb
[19:13] <synaesthetik> umount: it seems /dev/sda1 is mounted multiple times
[19:14] <synaesthetik> i have no idea where though
[19:14] <ikonia> synaesthetik: it can't be
[19:14] <ikonia> synaesthetik: you can only mount it once
[19:14] <synaesthetik> well that is what it says
[19:14] <escott> synaesthetik, what is the output of "mount"
[19:14] <L3mce> might have bindings etc... what does mount tell you synaesthetik
[19:15] <papsmear> Vi sitter här I venten och spelar lite DOTA Steam
[19:15] <synaesthetik> mount /dev/sda1
[19:15] <synaesthetik> ?
[19:15] <L3mce> mount
[19:15] <escott> synaesthetik, no just "mount"
[19:15] <synaesthetik> mount: warning: /etc/mtab is not writable (e.g. read-only filesystem).
[19:15] <synaesthetik>        It's possible that information reported by mount(8) is not
[19:15] <synaesthetik>        up to date. For actual information about system mount points
[19:15] <synaesthetik>        check the /proc/mounts file.
[19:16] <synaesthetik> er
[19:16] <synaesthetik> wait
[19:16] <escott> synaesthetik, when a tool tells you something please follow the instructions the tool tells you
[19:16] <L3mce> !pastebin | synaesthetik
[19:16] <synaesthetik> oops sorry
[19:16] <synaesthetik> didn't know
[19:16] <harryrf> !help
[19:16] <papsmear> synaesthetik, did you check fstab
[19:16] <ikonia> it's a livecd
[19:16] <harryrf> Can I talk to that bot in PM?
[19:17] <ikonia> it won't have anything in the fstab
[19:17] <ikonia> harryrf: yes, you can
[19:17] <archbsdace> !msgthebot | harryrf
[19:17] <L3mce> yes harryrf /msg ubottu
[19:17] <escott> !msgthebot > harryrf
[19:17] <papsmear> oh
[19:17] <synaesthetik> oh also this was on the output: /dev/sda1 on /home type ext2 (rw) /dev/sda1 on / type ext2 (rw)
[19:17] <synaesthetik>  
[19:17] <synaesthetik> doh
[19:17] <HQRaja> I am following the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI and when I use this command: 'sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.BAK' as instructed, I get this error: 'cp: cannot stat `/etc/X11/xorg.conf': No such file or directory'
[19:17] <escott> synaesthetik, thats a rather strange setup
[19:18] <harryrf> cool thanks
[19:18] <escott> synaesthetik, but umount the /home first
[19:18] <synaesthetik> huh?
[19:18] <HQRaja> Can anyone please help me with this?
[19:18] <BluesKaj> HQRaja, cp -r
[19:18] <escott> HQRaja, those instructions are out of date. xorg.conf won't exist on most systems
[19:18] <synaesthetik> yes i did umount
[19:18] <brightspark> HQRaja: modern releases don't contain that file.
[19:19] <escott> synaesthetik, if you bind mounted the disk the inner mount needs to be unbound first
[19:19] <bekks> HQRaja: A file that doesnt exist doesnt need to be backuped. :)
[19:19] <HQRaja> eshlox, brightspark, bekks: Ah I see, thanks. So I shouldn't follow those instructions then, considering the rest might be out of date too?
[19:19] <BluesKaj> bekks, may have generated axconf if he has nvidia
[19:20] <BluesKaj> er Xconf
[19:20] <bekks> BluesKaj: The message clearly states that he doesnt. :)
[19:20] <hunterdouglas> ok, managed to rebuild the raid, guess thats the way i am going
[19:20] <synaesthetik> escott you mean unmount from root after i unmount from home?
[19:20] <escott> synaesthetik, yes
[19:21] <HQRaja> escott, brightspark, bekks: I'm basically trying to switch to the fglrx proprietary drivers for my AMD video card in hopes that HDMI output to my external monitor works, which isn't currently working using the default X.Org drivers that Ubuntu used upon installation automatically.
[19:22] <escott> HQRaja, all you need to do is install the fglrx package
[19:22] <bekks> HQRaja: I cant help you with that, since I am actively refusing to even touch ATI graphics hardware :)
[19:22] <HQRaja> Though when I try to manually switch to those drivers from the 'Additional Drivers' section in 'Software Sources', nothing happens after hitting 'Apply Changes'; no error message. The radio button simply switches back to 'Using X.Org X server'
[19:23] <HQRaja> escott: Yes, that's what I'm trying to do. =)
[19:23] <HQRaja> bekks: Heh no worries. I personally wouldn't mind sticking with the default driver currently in use, if HDMI output would work with it.
[19:23] <escott> HQRaja, is this a laptop?
[19:24] <escott> HQRaja, ie switchable graphics?
[19:24] <HQRaja> escott: Yes, it is. BTW perhaps if I launch the Software Sources dialog from terminal, I can see some error output to find out what's happening. Would you know how to do that?
[19:24] <escott> HQRaja, yeah that probably wont work
[19:25] <HQRaja> escott: The machine has integrated Intel graphics, plus ATI ones. The card is getting detected fine by the machine.
[19:25] <HQRaja> Under 'Additional Drivers', it says 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI: Madison [Radeon HD 5000M Series]
[19:25] <HQRaja> Wait, let me try grabbing a screenshot
[19:26] <escott> HQRaja, please dont send it to me
[19:26] <HQRaja> escott: I won't; I'll upload it somewhere and paste the link here.
[19:28] <synaesthetik> papsmear, how do i check fstab
[19:30] <papsmear> synaesthetik, cat /etc/fstab
[19:30] <papsmear> but if you're using a livecd it's no use
[19:30] <synaesthetik> blah
[19:33] <datruth> is there a winamp dsp plugin for linux?
[19:33] <ikonia> linux
[19:33] <ikonia> datruth: winamp doesn't exist on linue
[19:33] <archbsdace> datruth: audacious has the ability to look like winamp
[19:33] <MonkeyDust> datruth  audacious is very similar to winamp
[19:34] <MonkeyDust> archbsdace  was faster :)
[19:34] <HQRaja> escott: This is what I see in 'Software Sources' > 'Additional Drivers': https://jumpshare.com/v/xFvtkJWcAz9O8P10Mvqx?b=D3qsehP9Q5ERnrkm2M1k and this is the error that shows up in Terminal when attempting to switch to ATI's drivers. Can you please take a look at them?
[19:35] <HQRaja> Sorry, forgot to paste the second link. Here it is: https://jumpshare.com/v/Y8RbYiHsk2qK5EPNbXfC?b=D3qsehP9Q5ERnrkm2M1k
[19:35] <lb27> archbsdace: can audacious play pictures with embedded music?
[19:35] <archbsdace> lb27: never tried sorry
[19:35] <archbsdace> lb27: there should be display plugins
[19:36] <lb27> archbsdace: I think it has more to do with a disregard for file headers, a minor point, but something winamp does
[19:37] <Physicist> My problem was resolved. I just changed the linux image and fixed the problem.
[19:37] <Brewster> hey whenever I try to open synaptic or anything else that requires root privileges and try to enter my password it will say incorrect password even though I haven't typed anything yet
[19:37] <Brewster> how do I fix that?
[19:38] <Physicist> After reinstall the AMD driver. It was not necessary.
[19:38] <synaesthetik> brb
[19:39] <lb27> Brewster: what happens if you run 'sudo synaptic' in a terminal?
[19:39] <escott> !gksudo | lb27 Brewster
[19:39] <lb27> escott: ok, thanks
[19:39] <Brewster> :/
[19:39] <harryrf> lspci should show wlan0 if the wireless card is reconized , correct?
[19:39] <Prageeth> can i install ubuntu alongside windows 8?
[19:40] <genii-around> harryrf: Some wireless cards are on an internal USB bus
[19:41] <HQRaja> Can anyone please help me with my drivers issue?
[19:41] <L3mce> harryrf: it may not call it wlan... but it should likely be listed. /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules will show it if the system recognizes it
[19:41] <Brewster> exit
[19:41] <Brewster> oops
[19:41] <Brewster> wrong window
[19:42] <L3mce> HQRaja: http://www.pastebin.ca/2316914
[19:42] <L3mce> HQRaja: then reboot
[19:42] <Brewster> gksudo works but is there any way to fix the original problem?
[19:42] <HQRaja> L3mce: Thanks, lemme try
[19:45] <escott> L3mce, HQRaja has switchable graphics. make sure whatever you are sending him wont break such a system
[19:45] <L3mce> sorry
[19:45] <L3mce> yes
[19:45] <harryrf> L3mce, here's what my 70-persistent-net.rules files says http://pastebin.com/6swJPQFV
[19:46] <L3mce> HQRaja: I appologize... I didnt realize you were on a hybrid. Please install vga-switcheroo
[19:46] <L3mce> I do not know that it supports fglrx
[19:46] <HQRaja> L3mce: So I shouldn't use those commands, then?
[19:46] <L3mce> correct
[19:46] <HQRaja> Thank you.
[19:46] <L3mce> good catch escott thanks
[19:47] <escott> L3mce, i told him it wasn't going to work but he didnt listen to me
[19:47] <HQRaja> Is this correct: sudo apt-get install vga-switcheroo ?
[19:47] <scooby> I want to disable the right mouse button in the xfce desktop - how do I do that?
[19:48] <HQRaja> escott: My apologies; I've been a bit confused.
[19:48] <Physicist> Any suggest about how to create a backup partition?
[19:48] <escott> HQRaja, is it supposed to be vga-switcheroo or ironhide these days
[19:49] <czardoz> what's the best way to read docbook files?
[19:49] <escott> HQRaja, what you are doing is unsupported. there is some very rough stuff like vga-switcheroo which works for some people but not other and could break your system
[19:49] <Physicist> I have lots of space.. more than 700GB free!
[19:49] <lb27> Physicist: I like dd if you want an exact copy, can pipe it into a container of your choice.
[19:51] <escott> HQRaja, ie its something you should be very cautious about doing and do *A LOT* more research before you start
[19:51] <Physicist> lb27: dd? I do not know what is it.. So can I just create and put there?
[19:51] <psusi> dd is not a backup tool... it's a dumb animal... if you want to backup your files, use tar, or the nice gui backup tool
[19:51] <HQRaja> Sorry, got disconnected
[19:51] <lb27> True, if you just want the files there are many fine choices
[19:52] <escott> HQRaja, is it supposed to be vga-switcheroo or ironhide these days
[19:52] <escott> HQRaja, what you are doing is unsupported. there is some very rough stuff like vga-switcheroo which works for some people but not other and could break your system
[19:52] <escott> HQRaja, ie its something you should be very cautious about doing and do *A LOT* more research before you start
[19:52] <HQRaja> escott, L3mce: In case my last two messages didn't get through, Is there any way to somehow output my display to an external monitor using the existing driver? Since that's the only thing I wanna do; otherwise, I'm find without ATI's drivers
[19:52] <HQRaja> And thanks for all the help, I really appreciate it.
[19:52] <Physicist> ok..
[19:53] <HQRaja> find = fine*
[19:53] <escott> HQRaja, start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[19:53] <Orpheon> What is the easiest way to make a windows partition larger from Ubuntu?
[19:53] <escott> HQRaja, and then start seeing anyone else has had success with your laptop model
[19:54] <escott> Orpheon, gparted
[19:54] <HQRaja> escott: Thanks again
[19:54] <Orpheon> escott, how? If I click on "Resize" on the windows partition, it doesn't let me make it bigger
[19:54] <L3mce> I am not sure HQRaja. I avoid those things like the plague.
[19:55] <escott> Orpheon, does it have adjacent free space to expand into
[19:55] <Orpheon> adjacent?
[19:55] <Orpheon> damn
[19:55] <Orpheon> can I move other partitions around?
[19:55] <HQRaja> So then from what I have understood so far, this basically means HDMI output will not work with the default VGA card using the drivers Ubuntu has used by default?
[19:55] <escott> Orpheon, yes as long as the partition is not active
[19:56] <escott> HQRaja, that would be my big question. have you ruled that out? you seemed to start down a path and never looked back
[19:57] <Orpheon> escott, still don't see how: http://snag.gy/l8bUq.jpg
[19:57] <HQRaja> escott: Well, I didn't rule it out actually. In fact if I can somehow get that to work, I wouldn't even want to look into getting ATI drivers to work.
[19:57] <Orpheon> (sda2 = windows)
[19:58] <escott> HQRaja, i would be curious to see "lspci -tv"
[19:58] <escott> Orpheon, you have an extended partition in there.
[19:59] <escott> Orpheon, you would have to shrink the extended to move the free space out of the extended, then slide sda2 over
[19:59] <HQRaja> escott: Thanks, lemme try. My only objective here is to output my display to an external monitor over HDMI, regardless of the drivers or the video card the machine and the OS use for the purpose. =)
[19:59] <Orpheon> escott, and uhh...how do I resize the entire extended partition? Right-clicking doesn't give any Resize option
[20:00] <escott> Orpheon, i dont know if it can be done from the gui or not
[20:00] <rushboy> Hello ! Can anyone please help me out with this query : I am writing a simple gui program in java where I am displaying a menu bar with just two tabs namely : 'File' and 'Edit' using all the libraries provided by java like javax.swing and java.awt . My query is how do I change the size of the font in which the words 'File' and 'Edit' is written ? I really need to solve this , any help is very much appreciated :-)
[20:01] <escott> !ot | rushboy
[20:01] <theadmin> rushboy: I think ##java is a much better place for this.
[20:01] <rushboy> theadmin, okay , the network please ?
[20:02] <theadmin> rushboy: Uhm, this one. Freenode.
[20:02] <rushboy> Cannot join #java (Channel is invite only).
[20:02] <rushboy> :(
[20:02] <theadmin> rushboy: ##java, not #java
[20:02] <theadmin> Double #. Also you may need to register.
[20:05] <frew> does anyone have any idea why X would lose my keyboard?  If I plug in a USB keyboard I can type fine, and if I switch to a real terminal (Ctrl + Alt + F1), I can use my normal keyboard
[20:10] <frew> it gets even weirder
[20:10] <frew> arrow keys work in X
[20:11] <theadmin> frew: This doesn't explain why it happened, but why not just restart X? Does it help?
[20:11] <frew> restarting X works but it's just a hassle you know?
[20:11] <frew> I
[20:11] <frew> I'd like to get to the bottom of it and solve the problem
[20:12] <theadmin> frew: Okay, so it's consistent, it happens often? If so, what are your actions before it happens?
[20:12] <frew> it happens maybe 2-3 times a month
[20:12] <frew> so not super often
[20:12] <frew> but it's a laptop, so I can't just unplug and replug my keyboard, or I wouldn't care
[20:13] <frew> I *think* what causes it is pressing a lot of buttons at the same time
[20:13] <frew> often on accident
[20:13] <frew> but I can't easily reproduce that
[20:13] <theadmin> Hm... This is odd.
[20:13] <frew> I've had the same thing happen on my desktop at work but with that one I do the unplug/replug trick and all is fine
[20:13] <Tengrikut> üşengeç
[20:13] <kzetts> Hi, any alsa wizards around?
[20:14] <gordon_> i am not sure if i am in the right channel i am new (just changed from windows yesterday) to ubuntu and am having video problems
[20:14] <theadmin> gordon_: What kind of problems?
[20:15] <MonkeyDust> problems with flash gordon_ ?
[20:15] <gordon_> there is video glitches when playing flash
[20:15] <kzetts> lol MonkeyDust
[20:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: we meet again.
[20:15] <theadmin> gordon_: That tends to happen on some browsers, are you using Chrome/Chromium?
[20:15] <gordon_> i am using firefox
[20:16] <kzetts> Anyone have any idea why I get excessive background noise while using y phone headset/earphones in the combo/mic jack on my laptop? In windows I can make calls and record stuff via the headset mic in this jack with no issues. In ubuntu and xubuntu i get tons of background noise. Its actually a little clearer with the onboard mic.
[20:16] <gordon_> there is a blurred line when i am using libreoffice as well when i scroll up or down
[20:16] <theadmin> gordon_: Hm, okay, then that's eliminated. Are you using Flash from partner or multiverse (i.e. the one that came with Ubuntu or did you install it  manually)?
[20:17] <theadmin> gordon_: Ah, now that sounds like a video driver problem already. Can you open up "Additional Drivers" and see if any are available?
[20:17] <gordon_> the one ubuntu came with
[20:17] <gordon_> how do i open up the drivers
[20:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> looking to install ubuntu on my dell inspiron ONE2205, cannot get the info from here, help? http://people.canonical.com/~hwcert/precise-testing/precise_final.html
[20:18] <theadmin> gordon_: Which Ubuntu version is this?
[20:18] <gordon_> 12.04
[20:18] <theadmin> gordon_: Ok. Hit the Super key (Windows), type "jockey" and hit Enter
[20:19] <gordon_> i  found the additional drivers and it is using nvidia graphics driver (post release updates)
[20:21] <k-stz> can ubuntu 10.04 run geforce 600 series cards?
[20:21] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: Dell is partnered with Canonical and Ubuntu works perfectly on most Dell machines. Just boot the livecd if you want to test.
[20:21] <SonikkuAmerica> bombard: Did you get your GeForce issue solved?
[20:21] <gordon_> in jockey what am i looking for
[20:21] <kzetts> No one has any ideas regarding alsa mic noise/
[20:21] <kzetts> ?
[20:21] <theadmin> gordon_: Available drivers (i.e. those with a gray sphere next to them)
[20:21] <woo> Everytime I close the screen on a toshiba the screen turns off.  When I open the screen on said laptop it won't turn the screen back on and I cant get a tty1-6 to pop up either.
[20:22] <woo> ubuntu 12.04
[20:22] <woo> x64
[20:22] <xkernel> can I install wireless compat-drivers on Quantal?
[20:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: yeah, I just like reading up on stuffs before I do it.
[20:23] <gordon_> there is only three folders in jockey they all have a padlock on them the names are check , installed_packages , nvidia-current-updates.noconf
[20:23] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: Well, looking at hardware specs for that, don't see anything that would have any reason to fail
[20:24] <theadmin> gordon_: Folders?... Um, I don't think that's the right place
[20:24] <theadmin> gordon_: jockey is an app
[20:24] <theadmin> gordon_: okay, hit Alt+F2 and type jockey-gtk then hit Enter
[20:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> alt+f2 jockey-gtk
[20:25] <SonikkuAmerica> woo: Hit the power button, boot into Ubuntu and go to System Settings > Power.
[20:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> anyone here use/try out that gubuntu yet?
[20:26] <gordon_> i see three nvidia drivers one has a green button on it the other two are greyed out
[20:26] <OerHeks> ntzrmtthihu777, what is gubuntu?
[20:26] <woo> SonikkuAmerica: So I lose the suspend feature.  my hibernate function is disabled
[20:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> gubuntu = ubuntu - unity + full gnome3 desktop
[20:27] <OerHeks> oh just an other freaking ubuntu derivate?
[20:27] <theadmin> OerHeks: Yeah, but it's not released yet...
[20:27] <SonikkuAmerica> woo: Is it currently set to Suspend? (Hibernate is disabled because either [a] you don't have swap space or [b] your swap space is less than your total RAM.
[20:27] <SonikkuAmerica> )
[20:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> :/ no need to get irate, OerHeks
[20:28] <kyan> hello
[20:28] <kyan> can anyone help me?
[20:28] <SonikkuAmerica> !ask | kyan
[20:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: you can get the iso from sourceforge, actually. I use gnome-fallback on precise, wondering how good it is relative to fallback.
[20:29] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: Um, the fallback option isn't what it's going to use, it's going to use Gnome Shell.
[20:29] <kyan> i've installed xubuntu-desktop from the minimal iso, now the problem is that before the dist-upgrade all usb worked easly now after the upgrade no usb are discovered only ps2 mouse and keyboard but not usb... sorry for my bad english, i'm italian
[20:29] <woo> SonikkuAmerica: ya and I found pm-hibernate
[20:29] <jn_> newbie question, so I have a line in fstab and I can mount with: mount "mountpoint path", but how can I make it mount automatically on boot ?
[20:29] <OerHeks> ntzrmtthihu777, sorry, i just wanted to know if it is an official ubuntu, i don't want to end up with no support.
[20:29] <woo> SonikkuAmerica: it worked
[20:29] <johnsmith> Hello. What default programs are installed in Ubuntu 12.04 to defend against ARP poisoning?
[20:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> yeah, I get that, I just want to know what it's like
[20:29] <johnsmith> I tried googling it, but all I got was stuff telling me how to ARP poison.
[20:30] <gordon_> there are two available drivers with the grey sphere next to them they are version experimental- 304 and -310
[20:30] <SonikkuAmerica> kyan: We do have an Italian channel, I think
[20:30] <SonikkuAmerica> !it | kyan
[20:30] <kyan> ok thanx :)
[20:30] <k1l> no official ubuntu yet, that gubuntu thing
[20:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> so I take it no-one has tried it yet then?
[20:31] <SonikkuAmerica> ntzrmtthihu777: I have.
[20:31] <joker_> is KDE completely free of all gnome stuff?
[20:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> what do you think of it, SonikkuAmerica?
[20:31] <SonikkuAmerica> !poll | ntzrmtthihu777, let me remind you
[20:31] <k1l> !ot | ntzrmtthihu777
[20:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> SonikkuAmerica: Yeah, I get what works for you may not work for you, just looking for an opinion. k1l: I fail to see how this is off-topic, would it be if I was talking xubuntu or kubuntu?
[20:33] <gordon_> ok i tried using one of the other video drivers and it failed and i tried to use the reporting system and it also failed
[20:33] <k1l> ntzrmtthihu777: "how do you like it" is actually no technical support issue.
[20:34] <SonikkuAmerica> ntzrmtthihu777: Plus, we typically talk about that stuff in -offtopic anyway. So please, take it there.
[20:34] <jakupl> I am having problems installing openttd (transport tycoon) on ubuntu 12.10
[20:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> :/
[20:34] <jakupl> I get this error message
[20:34] <jakupl> openttd: error while loading shared libraries: liblzma.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[20:35] <SonikkuAmerica> jakupl: Can you do [ sudo apt-get install -f ]?
[20:35] <bekks> !info liblzma.so.2
[20:35] <bekks> !file liblzma.so.2
[20:35] <jackarg> so i just managed to install ubuntu alongside windows 8 but now how do i get the grub menu if i want to choose ubuntu? (w8 automatically loads)
[20:35] <jakupl> I am not installing from repositorys
[20:35] <bekks> jakupl: Then you have to install that file somehow.
[20:35] <jakupl> I'm using dpkg -i >file<
[20:36] <k1l> jakupl: why not using that one from repo?
[20:36] <biloo_> oops
[20:36] <jakupl> k1l it's outdated
[20:36] <jakupl> can't do multiplayer with it
[20:37] <biloo_> oops
[20:37] <jakupl> and I can't find liblzma.so.2 anywhere
[20:37] <jakupl> im using 12.10
[20:38] <biloo_> oops
[20:38] <k1l> jakupl: that was a fail on building that package i think
[20:38] <k1l> biloo_: stop that pleaase
[20:39] <k1l> jakupl: http://bugs.openttd.org/task/4729
[20:39] <jackarg> can ANYONE answer me about the dual-booting?
[20:40] <SonikkuAmerica> !patience | jackarg
[20:40] <genii-around> jakupl: liblzma.so.2 is not in any package of ubuntu. liblzma.so however is, in the liblzma-dev package. It puts the file in either /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/ or /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ depending on your machines architecture. At that point you could symlink liblzma.so.2 to the systems liblzma.so
[20:40] <jakupl> k1l thanks but Im trying to install 1.2.3
[20:40] <SonikkuAmerica> jackarg: Are you using an EFI/UEFI machine?
[20:40] <k1l> jakupl: i think the one who made that .deb file made some misstakes
[20:40] <woo> SonikkuAmerica: got hibernated working with askubuntu.com && jackarg what is the questions?
[20:41] <woo> SonikkuAmerica: looks like Xorg and Toshiba have some bugs
[20:41] <jackarg> SonikkuAmerica yes i am and woo i'm trying to run ubuntu (i think i need to get the grub menu) now that i installed it alongside windows 8
[20:41] <SonikkuAmerica> jackarg: 64-bit?
[20:42] <fishtech> Anyone use cinnamon desktop on top of ubuntu and have problems? I didn't like unity that well so i changed to cinnamon. So far everything seems ok. Maybe Someone had some helpful advise about it on top of Ubuntu.
[20:42] <jackarg> SonikkuAmerica yes 64 bit
[20:42] <k1l> !mint | fishtech
[20:43] <k1l> fishtech: see the mint support for support with cinnamon since it is not supported from ubuntu itself
[20:43] <SonikkuAmerica> jackarg: OK. Did you check out the community UEFI page?
[20:43] <SonikkuAmerica> !uefi
[20:44] <fishtech> Ok thank you.
[20:45] <jackarg> SonikkuAmerica no send me a link? do you not have a solution?
[20:45] <dowhilegeek> ok so I accidentally deleted my boot partition
[20:45] <SonikkuAmerica> jackarg: Most of what you need is on that page. (Unless you tried that already)
[20:45] <woo> jackarg: you want grub? on grub 3 right?
[20:45] <fishtech> Would you know why Ubuntu will not fuction with jumpdrive. I can't format or really do anything with it.
[20:46] <dowhilegeek> I remade the partition on gparted, and I tried reinstalling grub. But apparently I need like, stage 1 and stage 2 files on the partition first? how do I get those?
[20:46] <woo> jackarg: does it auto boot into linux w/o givnig you a chance to switch?
[20:46] <jackarg> woo: I guess a grub is what I need but I wonder how to install it from windows. I just need an option to switch between the two
[20:46] <jackarg> woo: it autoboots into w8
[20:47] <woo> jackarg: that right after the bios switches to hdd to boot you need the keep mashing the up and down arrorws at boot
[20:47] <woo> jackarg: pretend your are trying to select from a list It should pop up.
[20:48] <woo> jackarg: by default its hidden
[20:48] <jackarg> woo: ok lemme try stay here
[20:48] <jackarg> woo: thanks :)
[20:48] <woo> k
[20:48] <mussa> hi
[20:48] <woo> hi
[20:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> anyone manage to get uck to work for precise x64?
[20:49] <woo> !uck | woo
[20:49] <mussa> i need abuntu arabick
[20:49] <genii-around> !ar
[20:49] <genii-around> Bah
[20:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> !uck | ntzrmtthihu777
[20:50] <genii-around> !arabic
[20:50] <woo> ntzrmtthihu777: what is the problum ur having w/ it?
[20:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> lol, nice trick that.
[20:50] <salmaan> @Musssa, What is your problem?
[20:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> well the package manager does not work, so I can't use what it was intended for.
[20:52] <woo> ntzrmtthihu777: what was the problum you had?
[20:52] <SonikkuAmerica> !uck | SonikkuAmerica
[20:53] <packetfrog> dpkg: error processing extlinux (--configure):
[20:53] <packetfrog>  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[20:53] <packetfrog> oops
[20:53] <packetfrog> multi monitor and me are not getting along   dont mind me
[20:53] <woo> ntzrmtthihu777: I have a rebuilt 12.04 x64 I havent iso'd or ran yet.
[20:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> have you ever used it? basically it pulls your iso apart, and in that you can install/remove packages. it does not work with precise, because it does not come with synaptic
[20:53] <mussa> هاي
[20:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> !ar | mussa
[20:54] <SonikkuAmerica> !arabic | mussa
[20:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> nope xD wrong one
[20:54] <gordon_> i am having video driver problems i downloaded the linux version from NVIDIA but i don't know the proper procedure for installing them
[20:54] <SonikkuAmerica> (Yeah, !ar is Argentina)
[20:54] <woo> ntzrmtthihu777: Failed to copy resolv.conf, error=1
[20:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> yeah, forget exactly what the issue was, been a while since I fiddled with it.
[20:55] <jackarg> woo: no it does not work i just booted into w8 again i think there's not grub
[20:55] <winterpk> Hi all
[20:56] <gordon_> what channel do i need to go to for technical help with video drivers
[20:56] <winterpk> I'm having an issue with permissions where if a user uploads from one computer it sets to 775 but the same user from a nother computer sets to 755? What could cause that?
[20:56] <woo> ! grub3 | jackarg
[20:57] <woo> ! grub | jackarg
[20:57] <woo> jackarg: but, there is a trick I would try
[20:57] <bekks> winterpk: How do those users "upload"? And to which Ubuuntu version?
[20:57] <jackarg> what is that woo?
[20:58] <winterpk> bekks, using Coda IDE and Filezilla.
[20:58] <woo> jackarg: live boot a ubu cd and a sudo grub-install
[20:58] <jackarg> k i'll try
[20:58] <bekks> winterpk: And using WHICH protocol for uploading?
[20:58] <winterpk> ssh
[20:58] <woo> jackarg: or you could use a puppy linux cd to install grub4dos
[20:59] <bekks> winterpk: ssh can upload at all. Do you mean SFTP or FTPS?
[20:59] <bekks> winterpk: *cant
[20:59] <alagos> Hello
[20:59] <woo> hello
[20:59] <winterpk> sorry yeah sftp
[20:59] <winterpk> Shell FTP
[21:00] <woo> I have a question.  If you run ubuntu live to install grub to /dev/sda will in recognize the kernel version of the iso or the sda?
[21:00] <bekks> winterpk: The abbreviation stands for "secure FTP".
[21:00] <winterpk> oops ok
[21:00] <bekks> winterpk: Do you use SFTP in both clients, or does one of them just use FTP?
[21:00] <winterpk> both clients
[21:00] <winterpk> SFTP
[21:00] <winterpk> I don't even have an FTP server set up
[21:00] <alagos> I'd like to ask about ubuntu 12.04 and laptop lenovo Z580. Is it possible to install it on this laptop and work?
[21:01] <bekks> winterpk: And which Ubuntu versions are involved?
[21:01] <winterpk> 12.04 LTS
[21:01] <meet> i am trying to install python-glade2 on 12.04 but getting some error like not find in current software sources. how do i install it?
[21:01] <woo> jackarg: I think it would work and just to try I'm going to attempt it with my pc to see if it crashes ok?
[21:01] <dowhilegeek> what filesystem should I use for a grub partition?
[21:02] <bekks> dowhilegeek: Do you mean /boot ?
[21:02] <Physicist> I have a doubt. What is the difference between I install the normal ubuntu iso and install the server os?
[21:02] <dowhilegeek> like, ext2, etx
[21:02] <ldiamond> 12.04: I sometimes get popups saying some system application had a problem, can't get any information about it, only click "report problem" which asks for my password. I don't know what failed or why, I don't want to provide my password to some random popups. Is there a log I should be looking at?
[21:02] <bekks> dowhilegeek: Do you mean /boot?
[21:03] <Styler2go> Would someone have time to help me setting up iptables?
[21:03] <dowhilegeek> bekks: sure
[21:03] <jpds> Styler2go: That depends on what you need
[21:03] <Physicist> I should have a server with many computers?
[21:03] <jpds> Styler2go: And you'll likely find better help on #ubuntu-server.
[21:03] <bekks> dowhilegeek: ext2 is full sufficient for /boot
[21:03] <Styler2go> i want to block ips if they have more than a specific amount of requests per secound
[21:03] <jpds> Physicist: What do you need a server for? File storage? Authentication?
[21:03] <yeats> Styler2go: you probably want to look into fail2ban
[21:04] <jpds> Styler2go: sudo ufw heelp
[21:04] <winterpk> bekks: any thoughts on what could cause that?
[21:04] <Physicist> I want make a proxy system..
[21:04] <jpds> Styler2go: And look at the 'limit' option.
[21:04] <SolarisBoy> rate limiting/ throlling
[21:04] <SolarisBoy> its possible in iptables - no need for extra sw
[21:04] <Physicist> jpds: Is it possible with my notebook?
[21:04] <Styler2go> ufw not found
[21:04] <jpds> !ufw | Styler2go
[21:05] <Styler2go> isnt it iptables? o.O
[21:05] <jpds> Styler2go: It is.
[21:05] <Styler2go> oh
[21:05] <jpds> Styler2go: ufw just makes it easier.
[21:05] <SolarisBoy> ufw is a stupifier for iptables
[21:05] <Styler2go> so the command is iptables, or?
[21:05] <SolarisBoy> or not
[21:05] <jpds> SolarisBoy: ...
[21:05] <SolarisBoy> heh
[21:05] <Styler2go> becuase i dont have ufw but iptables
[21:05] <jpds> Physicist: Sure, but you'd likely want it on the device that's always on.
[21:05] <jpds> Styler2go: Well, apt-get install ufw should do it.
[21:06] <jpds> Styler2go: But if you want to use iptables, go for it.
[21:06] <caasper> I need to reset my GPG passphrase; I used `gpg -c filename.txt` but the passphrase I provided is invalid.
[21:06] <Styler2go> whats better?
[21:06] <caasper> Any help?
[21:06] <bekks> winterpk: Different permissions on the clients.
[21:06] <jpds> Styler2go: ufw is just a front-end for iptables.
[21:06] <Physicist> jpds: how can I create my own proxy system with my notebook and server image?
[21:06] <jpds> Styler2go: You want to limit a port, it's as easy as: sudo ufw limit 22; sudo ufw enable
[21:07] <woo> Styler2go: what is ubu version are you running?
[21:07] <jpds> Styler2go: Replace 22 with the port you want to limit.
[21:07] <SolarisBoy> but there is no way to customize the parameters via ufw
[21:07] <jpds> Physicist: Well, that's a good question, you'd have to look into something like squid.
[21:07] <SolarisBoy> so if your ok with that - ufw would work if not youll need to use iptables directly
[21:08] <woo> Physicist: I do that
[21:08] <Styler2go> http://pastebin.com/v0NrrtxZ
[21:08] <winterpk> bekks: so it has to be in the clients themselves right?  Not on the server.
[21:08] <jpds> Styler2go: Check dmesg ?
[21:08] <jpds> Styler2go: Make sure you do: ufw allow 22 --- to make sure you don't block SSH.
[21:09] <Styler2go> http://pastebin.com/T5usXBwJ
[21:09] <caasper> Anyone familiar with gpg? I need to reset my passphrase as it's invalid.
[21:09] <Physicist> woo: How.. Give something..
[21:09] <Styler2go> ok its online
[21:09] <Physicist> jpds: squid.. Is is a website?
[21:09] <jpds> caasper: If you forgot your passphrase, I think you'll need to create a new key.
[21:09] <Styler2go> if i use ab now, it should block me, right?
[21:09] <woo> Physicist: !ssh | Physicist
[21:09] <jpds> Styler2go: Look at: sudo ufw status verbose
[21:09] <woo> !ssh | Physicist
[21:10] <jpds> Physicist: No, it's a proxying software.
[21:10] <jpds> !squid | Physicist
[21:10] <caasper> jpds: I didn't forget it, but after entering it for `gpg -c` it informed me it was invalid, but running the command again uses the same key
[21:10] <woo> Physicist: I use dd alot and just mod on the server
[21:10] <Styler2go> jpds: port 80 limit in, port 22 allow in
[21:10] <Styler2go> Status active
[21:10] <jpds> Styler2go: Good, so it's online.
[21:10] <jpds> Styler2go: See: 'man ufw' for details.
[21:10] <Styler2go> so ab should get blocked, right?
[21:11] <jpds> Styler2go: ab?
[21:11] <Styler2go> apache benchmarkt
[21:11] <Physicist> !scp | Physicist
[21:11] <Styler2go> -t
[21:11] <jpds> Styler2go: The limit rule blocks the port to 6 new connections every 30 seconds.
[21:11] <jpds> Styler2go: That's what the man page says.
[21:12] <woo> good luck
[21:14] <Physicist> jpds: Thank you. I found something interesting.
[21:14] <Styler2go> now i cant access my server
[21:14] <Styler2go> via ssh
[21:14] <tcstar> quick question -- just got a HP G7-2317cl.. installed ubuntu on it -- trying to find drivers that'll work to enable the on/off button for the touchpad (sometimes i use it, sometimes i dont)
[21:15] <tcstar> any ideas on where to head?
[21:15] <jpds> Styler2go: You sure the allow 22 rule was in?
[21:15] <bekks> winterpk: Yes.
[21:16] <Styler2go> yes
[21:17] <utterglee> hey all, good morning
[21:17] <utterglee> I just started a new VPS
[21:17] <Styler2go> what now jpds? :D
[21:17] <jpds> Styler2go: And SSH is on port 22?
[21:17] <jpds> Styler2go: Should work in that case.
[21:18] <Styler2go> yes it is
[21:18] <utterglee> I've got SSH keys on my windows system, and I want to be able to connect to the remote vps
[21:18] <utterglee> I did ssh-keygen on the remote, and there's id_rsa.pub there
[21:18] <utterglee> I've got another public key on my windows computer
[21:18] <caasper> I still need to create a new passphrase for GPG, since it's invalid; I've tried to generate a new key but to no avail.
[21:18] <utterglee> so how do I copy this one to there, without overwriting that file?
[21:18] <utterglee> can I name it anything I want?
[21:19] <utterglee> maybe, local.pub?
[21:19] <tcstar> utterglee -- i generally do the keygen on my local machine then cat it over to the remote server....  the company you got your VPS through should have a guide on how to do this
[21:20] <utterglee> tcstar, I need to connect to bitbucket over SSH, I am going to add the public key I generated as a 'deployment key' (allows read only access to repo)
[21:20] <utterglee> so the server has it's own id_rsa.pub, my computer has it's own too, I'm just confused about how to let them co-exist
[21:20] <tcstar> ooh that one i don't know much...  i generally don't deal with bitbucket.. so I can't help you with that one..
[21:20] <utterglee> so I can connect from my computer to server, and server can connect to bitbucket, etc
[21:20] <Doxin> I'm trying to run bind9 but the init script is failing, running it by hand works fine. what's going on?
[21:21] <utterglee> tcstar, nah this is not bitbucket specific
[21:21] <johnsmith> Is it considered bad taste to repeat questions after more people have logged in?
[21:21] <tcstar> well perhaps i'm confused as to what it is you're wanting....
[21:21] <tcstar> depends on how long it's been since you asked last johnsmith...
[21:21] <Styler2go> what port would be a ping?
[21:21] <Styler2go> my server is not responding to pings xD
[21:22] <tcstar> if I have a question -- i'll usually wait a good 20/30  minutes before trying again (but of course i'm googling the entire time)
[21:22] <bekks> Styler2go: Then enable ICMP.
[21:22] <johnsmith> tcstar Thanks, it's been an hour so I'll give it another go.
[21:23] <johnsmith> What are the default security features in Ubuntu 12.04 (up to date) to help protect against ARP poisoning/spoofing etc? I'm not running a server, just a regular ol' desktop distro.
[21:24] <utterglee> tcstar, I want the server and my computer to have their own SSH public keys
[21:24] <johnsmith> tcstar All of my googling has just told me to modify certain files or tried to teach me how to do MITM attacks
[21:24] <Styler2go> ok what can i do if ssh is blocked?
[21:24] <madsailor> hi all.  Ubuntu 12.04.  After my last round of updates when a program window is maximized and the dropdown menus are integrated in the top bar, when I mouse over to the min/max/restore buttons they dissappear and are replaced by the app/window title
[21:24] <utterglee> I am confused that copying my computer's id_rsa.pub to the server, will overwrite the server's key
[21:25] <angs> what is the command to search a file on the whole fs?
[21:25] <Walex> angs:  depends...
[21:25] <madsailor> this makes it impossible to min/exit the window.  How can I revert this behavior?
[21:25] <bekks> utterglee: Use another target filename then.
[21:25] <tcstar> utterglee -- depending on the method you use -- it'll append your key to the key that's there....
[21:25] <utterglee> angs, I use `ls -alR | grep -i 'yoursearchhere'` : note this is a n00b constructed command, you may find better alternatives
[21:25] <angs> walex, I would like to search for gpio.h
[21:25] <bekks> tcstar: Thats wrong.
[21:26] <angs> thank you utterglee
[21:26] <bekks> utterglee: Copy your LOCAL .pub key into the SERVER's authorized_keys file.,
[21:26] <utterglee> bekks, I can name my client's public key anything other than id_rsa.pub, and SSH will take care of matching the right key? (let's say I have another client, client_2.pub)
[21:26] <utterglee> that is awesome...
[21:26] <Walex> angs: try 'find / -name ...' or 'locate' .... or 'dpkg -S'  or 'apt-file search' depending
[21:27] <bekks> utterglee: No.
[21:27] <bekks> utterglee: Read again what I wrote please.
[21:27] <Walex> utterglee: your question seem to make little sense
[21:27] <darkhelmet46> howdy all
[21:27] <darkhelmet46> can anyone help me with some problems i am having with the wubi-move script?
[21:28] <utterglee> angs, you gotta be in the root / directory for what I typed to work
[21:28] <angs> utterglee, thank you
[21:28] <utterglee> or you could say `ls -alR / | grep -i 'yoursearch'`
[21:28] <theadmin> ...really?
[21:28] <theadmin> find / -iname 'something'
[21:29] <utterglee> well I did warn that is n00b stuff :p
[21:29] <Walex> utterglee: that's an incredibly slow way
[21:29] <utterglee> true, `find` looks way nicer
[21:30] <utterglee> cool then I will shift to using that from now
[21:30] <theadmin> Or even just "locate something", given indices are up-to-date.
[21:30] <krstn420_> hello
[21:31] <utterglee> bekks, let's say I did ssh-keygen on my first PC and got an id_rsa.pub generated
[21:31] <bekks> utterglee: Then copy the content of that file into authorized_keys on the server, as I said.
[21:31] <utterglee> to connect to the server, I copy this file to the server's ~/.ssh/authorized_keys folder, great
[21:31] <krstn420_> could anyone help me to set up pyload to start up at boot. im pretty desperate by now :(
[21:32] <utterglee> now the server has an id_rsa.pub file in that folder
[21:32] <krstn420_> i tried so  much stuff, but it never starts if i reboot
[21:32] <bekks> utterglee: Read what I wrote. I told you twice already what to do.
[21:32] <utterglee> now I went ahead and ran the same process in my second PC
[21:32] <chuckf> How do I recover a mailman admin password for an ubuntu mailing list?
[21:32] <utterglee> I got another id_rsa.pub now, so now I can't use it?
[21:33] <utterglee> "use a different target file": you mean ask ssh-keygen to call it something else?
[21:33] <tekgeek> anyone know  ntfsundelete?
[21:33] <bekks> utterglee: Read what I wrote to you twice.
[21:33] <bekks> utterglee: After doing so, read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[21:34] <utterglee> It's annoying that it depends on the file name
[21:34] <darkhelmet46> can anyone help me with some problems i am having with the wubi-move script?
[21:34] <Shizuo> I officially approve Ubuntu
[21:34] <bekks> utterglee: It doesnt. READ the link please, as well as what I wrote to you.
[21:34] <utterglee> bekks, sorry to be slow but I can't figure it out
[21:35] <LiquidEssence> Hello. I am running Xubuntu. Whenever I reactivate my computer from sleep/hibernation mode the speakers make a loud notification sound at pretty much maximum volume. Is there any way to turn the system sounds completely off?
[21:35] <utterglee> I swear I read 'what you wrote' each time your ordered me to
[21:35] <utterglee> let me try again
[21:35] <maco_> Hello
[21:35] <Monotoko> c# is a horrible horrible language :(
[21:35] <bekks> utterglee: I wrote exact instructions on what you should do - why dont you read THEM?
[21:35] <theadmin> LiquidEssence: Sure, go to pavucontrol ('sound settings' in Xubuntu methinks) and mute the "System Sounds" channel
[21:36] <utterglee> bekks, you said "copy the contents of the file into /authorized_keys"
[21:36] <LiquidEssence> @theadmin: they are muted
[21:36] <bekks> utterglee: No, I didnt.
[21:36] <LiquidEssence> but it still makes that sound
[21:36] <utterglee> you actually did
 utterglee: Then copy the content of that file into authorized_keys on the server, as I said.
[21:36] <bekks> utterglee: I didnt. I NEVER used / in what I wrote to you.
[21:36] <LiquidEssence> whenever it goes to sleep or returns from sleep
[21:36] <utterglee> oh
[21:36] <theadmin> LiquidEssence: Hm, okay, I guess that doesn't qualify as "system" then for whatever reason... I never got such a sound on Xubuntu though so it's kinda odd
[21:36] <utterglee> right
[21:36]  * utterglee kicks self
[21:37] <bekks> utterglee: And did you read the link too?
[21:37] <datruth> anyone use winamp+dsp in virtualbox?
[21:37] <LiquidEssence> @theadmin: maybe it's a hardware thing? I have a Lenovo laptop
[21:37] <theadmin> LiquidEssence: Hardware playing sounds is... scary
[21:37] <LiquidEssence> it does the same thing on my Windows OS as well
[21:37] <madsailor> I cant min/close a window that is maxed from the titlebar in 12.04 after last update. Controls are replaced with window title on mouseover.  Any help?
[21:37] <utterglee> it's funny how I encountered that file before, had to edit it to get rid of 'man in the middle' attack warnings, and yet I thought you were talking about a folder
[21:37] <theadmin> utterglee: Just call the file something other than "id_rsa.pub" when copying it to authorized_keys.
[21:38] <theadmin> Or not
[21:38] <utterglee> no theadmin it's a file...
[21:38] <utterglee> where I copy my contents of id_rsa.pub
[21:38] <theadmin> utterglee: doh, was just following the conversation
[21:38] <theadmin> utterglee: Well, then copy the contents of multiple files there
[21:39] <utterglee> this is beautiful
[21:39] <utterglee> thanks bekks
[21:40] <theadmin> utterglee: From "man sshd": " Each line of the file contains one key (empty lines and lines starting with a ‘#’ are ignored as comments). So there you go.
[21:41] <LiquidEssence> @theadmin: it's probably have to do with my computer as such; my brother has an ASUS laptop and it doesn't make any sound on his Xubuntu distro, when he puts it into suspend mode
[21:41] <gordon_> i am new to ubuntu and i am having video driver issues where there is a horizontal blur line 3/4 of the way up my screen i tried to use the experimental video drivers and was left with a black screen i reinstalled ubuntu 12.04 and tried 12.10 both of them have issues with the video card i downloaded the newest drivers from nvidia but don't know how to install them
[21:41] <Eino_> Hi. I need some help with my 64-bit installation of Ubuntu 12.10
[21:42] <theadmin> LiquidEssence: Well, this is the weirdest thing ever then
[21:42] <Eino_> I have several problems.
[21:42] <utterglee> 99
[21:42] <theadmin> Eino_: Just ask the questions.
[21:42] <LiquidEssence> @theadmin: yes i can imagine :) I just don't know how to fix it :) I'l look around the web some more if this is a Lenovo specific issue
[21:43] <boom0917> noticed theres suspect packages in the synaptic package manager under Gparted has anyone else noticed that or are those allright to install
[21:43] <Eino_> Every second boot has only black screen. No GRUB, nothing. Just black.
[21:43] <theadmin> LiquidEssence: Well, no such sounds on a Dell.
[21:43] <LiquidEssence> theadmin: I guess my computer is soooo special then :)
[21:43] <Eino_> 2. Steam for Linux tells me: You are missing the following 32-bit libraries, and Steam may not run: käynnistettävää
[21:43] <Eino_> käynnistettävää means = starting in english
[21:44] <theadmin> Eino_: How did you install Steam? You should use the Software Center.
[21:44] <LiquidEssence> theadmin: thx a lot for now, I will look for some more info!
[21:44] <Eino_> Theadmin: I did.
[21:44] <Eino_> I downloaded the .deb file from steampowered.com and it took me to software centre
[21:44] <theadmin> Eino_: That's not what I'm talking about
[21:44] <theadmin> Eino_: I'm talking about the version of Steam that's available *in* the software center
[21:45] <zztr> join #ubuntutablet
[21:45] <zztr> oops.
[21:45] <maitake> Hi ubuntu support. I'm currently using gnome3 shell for my DE. Any idea why regardless of whether I erase the data on my drive, my gnome-shell extensions act like they're installed again? They show up on tweak tool and also on the "Installed Extensions" list on site, yet I can't remove them and they're nowhere to be found in .local/share/gnome-shell/extensions
[21:45] <Eino_> You want the package name?
[21:46] <theadmin> Eino_: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/steam/
[21:46] <theadmin> Eino_: This one.
[21:47] <Laban> I need some advice... When playing videos with AC3 audio, some channels are lost in the playback. In general music is playing OK, but not talk. Tested with Totem, VLC and XBMC. HDMI audio, SPDIF plugged into the graphics card internally.
[21:47] <Eino_> How I can uninstall the old one
[21:47] <Laban> How can I fix this?
[21:47] <Eino_> Nykyiset käyttämäsi ohjelmistolähteet eivät sisällä pakettia "steam".
[21:47] <Eino_> it didn't found the package steam
[21:47] <theadmin> Eino_: sudo apt-get remove steam:i386
[21:48] <Eino_> sudo apt-get remove steam:i386
[21:48] <Eino_> Package 'steam:i386' is not installed, so not removed
[21:48] <theadmin> Eino_: Eh, okay, dpkg -l '*steam*' | pastebinit
[21:49] <jackarg> woo: so I figured that I can get windows by chaning the boot order and putting the windows boot loader on top and get ubuntu if I put the hdd on top. what do you think of that?
[21:49] <LiquidEssence> theadmin: I found the solution. It is a Lenovo specific function. The Beep alarms had to be turned off in the BIOS setup!
[21:49] <Eino_> http://paste.nerv.fi/27747570.txt
[21:49] <jackarg> could someone please help me I cannot change my brightness in ubuntu 12.04 !!
[21:50] <theadmin> Eino_: Okay, that's an odd one. But remove that "steam-launcher" and use the Software Center to install Steam (not the .deb file, just search for steam in the Software Center)
[21:50] <Eino_> it doesn't found package steam-launcher in software centre
[21:50] <jon_w> I'm trying to run "sudo -u gitlab -H bundle install --deployment --without development test mysql" but keep getting "sudo: bundle: command not found" because bundle isn't installed for root. How can I run this command then?
[21:51] <Eino_> how to uninstall that?
[21:51] <theadmin> Eino_: sudo apt-get remove steam-launcher
[21:51] <utterglee> okay, that worked, I can now connect over SSH, cool
[21:52] <utterglee> how did the system know? I mean, I added a key to authorized_keys, how did the system know to immediately start using key instead of asking for a password?
[21:52] <theadmin> jon_w: Use the full path to where "bundle" resides.
[21:52] <Eino_> it does not found anything about steam
[21:52] <theadmin> utterglee: sshd checks the file whenever you connect
[21:52] <jackarg> does anyone know why I can't change my brightness?
[21:52] <Eino_> it founds some random apps but not the steam
[21:52] <theadmin> Eino_: Which Ubuntu version are you on?
[21:52] <jon_w> theadmin thx
[21:52] <Eino_> 12.10
[21:52] <utterglee> nice!
[21:52] <blackroseblade> Woah, lots of people here. :O
[21:53] <theadmin> Eino_: drrr... It should be there.
[21:53] <theadmin> Anyway I'm off
[21:53] <blackroseblade> So I've got a liveusb here and I'd like to make it persistent. I tried this: http://shallowsky.com/blog/linux/install/ubuntu-persistent-live-cd.html
[21:54] <blackroseblade> But unfortunately it can't find casper-rw. Since its a liveusb I'm not exactly sure where to point it to.
[21:54] <jon_w> ohai
[21:54] <Eino_> I have too much problems with this f***ing Canoncial bul***it. Does not found Steam, every second boot has black screen, cannot set to autolaunch Ubuntu have to use GRUB. Random system fatal errors. CAps LOck PROblem.
[21:55] <yong> hello world
[21:55] <SolarisBoy> sounds bad
[21:55] <Eino_> Can someone help me?
[21:55] <blackroseblade> i've never had issues with ubuntu, even when running out of the box. it just...works.
[21:55] <MonkeyDust> Eino_  start with minding your language
[21:55] <SolarisBoy> +1
[21:55] <Eino_> I would, but this just NOT work!
[21:55] <blackroseblade> Steam can be frustrating
[21:55] <PengunCSC> hey guys\
[21:56] <blackroseblade> But yes, i would agree...calm down...
[21:56] <Eino_> I want operating system that works, but this does not. There are FEW problems: Does not found Steam, every second boot has black screen, cannot set to autolaunch Ubuntu have to use GRUB. Random system fatal errors. CAps LOck PROblem.
[21:56] <blackroseblade> These people aren't exactly getting paid to help you.
[21:56] <MonkeyDust> Eino_  steam for linux is still in beta, you can't blame linux for that
[21:56] <PengunCSC> I am trying to enable the HDMI port on my nVidia 210
[21:56] <Eino_> Monkey, overread that still
[21:56] <Eino_> I have still many problems: every second boot has black screen, cannot set to autolaunch Ubuntu have to use GRUB. Random system fatal errors. CAps LOck PROblem.
[21:56] <blackroseblade> Are you new to Ubuntu/linux?
[21:57] <PengunCSC> The nvidia-settings util says the driver is not new enough to show the Xorg settings
[21:57] <Eino_> I have used Linux before
[21:57] <Eino_> and always uninstalled Ubuntu because it does not ork
[21:57] <blackroseblade> no one says linux...
[21:57] <Eino_> i wanted to give it a try
[21:57] <Eino_> but..
[21:57] <Eino_> And I have not problems with steam
[21:57] <blackroseblade> Well it takes time to work just like any new system.
[21:57] <Eino_> it just DOES NOT FOUND THE PACKAGE
[21:58] <blackroseblade> Erm, have you followed the instructions on steam's support?
[21:58] <Eino_> yes
[21:58] <blackroseblade> Added the repository, enabled it, tried getting it manually through terminal?
[21:58] <Eino_> Every second boot is black - it is not about my experience.
[21:58] <Eino_> yes yes yes
[21:58] <Eino_> Even downloaded the package manually
[21:58] <blackroseblade> Dunno, I did the same and mine works like a charm.
[21:58] <PengunCSC> can anyone help with nVidia?
[21:59] <Eino_> No luck with this F***untu.
[21:59] <blackroseblade> PengunCSC: you'll have to wait a bit, it seems.
[21:59] <SolarisBoy> Eino_: have you checked your log files like Xorg.0 for display issues?
[21:59] <k1l> Eino_: i would suggest to target every issue as a single task
[21:59] <blackroseblade> I'm waiting for someone to help me change my liveusb to persistent
[21:59] <Monotoko> PengunCSC, what's up? I have an nVidia card
[21:59] <SolarisBoy> Eino_: what happends when you type apt-cache policy steam?
[21:59] <Eino_> Solaris: how? I can paste if you give me instructionsa
[21:59] <Eino_> SolarisBoy:  let me check
[21:59] <PengunCSC> Monotoko: I have a geforce 210
[22:00] <Monotoko> blackroseblade, have a look at unetbootin - but you'll have to format the drive first
[22:00] <wiggmpk> Eino_: are you trying to install steam?
[22:00] <PengunCSC> I am trying to activate the HDMI port
[22:00] <SolarisBoy> Eino_: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[22:00] <Monotoko> it has an option for persistent storage
[22:00] <Monotoko> PengunCSC, what's the problem?
[22:00] <PengunCSC> No multiple screens in the native Displays tool
[22:00] <PengunCSC> The nvidia-settings util says the driver is not new enough to show the Xorg settings
[22:00] <SolarisBoy> Eino_: when you have output to post pipe it to the command "uptime | pastebinit" . and post the link which is returned on your terminal
[22:01] <SolarisBoy> Eino_: thats an example there is no need to actually run uptime however
[22:01] <Monotoko> PengunCSC, ahhh... I can't help you there sorry :( I'm too poor to have multiple screens :P
[22:01] <maxbit> hy i have a little question how is the console called that opens when you press ctrl+ Fx ?
[22:01] <Eino_> http://paste.nerv.fi/28895476.txt
[22:01] <blackroseblade> maxbit: you mean the terminal?
[22:02] <maxbit> jap my problem is that it doesn't open on my xubuntu
[22:02] <wiggmpk> Eino_: are you running 32bit or 64bit Ubuntu?
[22:02] <Monotoko> maxbit, ctrl+alt+F1 ?
[22:02] <Eino_> 64bit
[22:03] <SolarisBoy> Eino_: Installed (none) in your language? in that output?
[22:03] <maxbit> -.^ my foult
[22:03] <wiggmpk> Eino_: are you trying to install Steam64?
[22:03] <Eino_> yes
[22:03] <maxbit> thx
[22:03] <darkhelmet46> Can anyone help me with migrating a Wubi install?
[22:03] <Eino_> i can try
[22:03] <Eino_> sudo apt-get install Steam64 ?
[22:03] <SolarisBoy> Eino_: what architecture is your hardware?
[22:03] <wiggmpk> Eino_: sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
[22:04] <wiggmpk> Eino_: then "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get install steam64"
[22:04] <Monotoko> darkhelmet46, migrate to where?
[22:04] <darkhelmet46> Monotoko, migrate to its own partition.
[22:04] <Eino_> wiggmpk: will try
[22:04] <Monotoko> I believe you will need to reinstall...
[22:04] <bekks> wiggmpk: Which will make your system mix up i386 and x86_64 forever.
[22:04] <bekks> Eino_: Dont do it until you knwo what those commands do.
[22:04] <SolarisBoy> madness..
[22:04] <wiggmpk> bekks: steam depends on i386 packages
[22:05] <darkhelmet46> Monotoko, I tried this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/635/how-to-convert-wubi-install-into-regular-install
[22:05] <Eino_> SolarisBoy: I don't really know. I have AMD Phenom Quad-Core N970
[22:05] <darkhelmet46> But it errored out.
[22:05] <k1l> wiggmpk: it should isntall that by itself
[22:05] <gordon_> i have a video problem i am running 64bit 12.04 tried the drivers from additional drivers and one of them left me with a black screen so i had to reinstall ubuntu again
[22:05] <Monotoko> darkhelmet46, what was the error?
[22:05] <bekks> wiggmpk: I know. But there is NO reason to force your system mixing up architectures. Steam will pull all dependencies needed.
[22:05] <Eino_> does not found package stea4
[22:05] <Eino_> steam64
[22:05] <darkhelmet46> wubi-move.sh:  An error occurred within chroot
[22:05] <darkhelmet46> wubi-move.sh:  Error is: /usr/sbin/grub-bios-setup: warning: this LDM has no Embedding Partition; embedding won't be possible
[22:06] <darkhelmet46> /usr/sbin/grub-bios-setup: warning: Embedding is not possible.  GRUB can only be installed in this setup by using blocklists.  However, blocklists are UNRELIABLE and their use is discouraged..
[22:06] <darkhelmet46> /usr/sbin/grub-bios-setup: error: will not proceed with blocklists.
[22:06] <SolarisBoy> Eino_: have you run apt-get update after you added whatever ppa you added?
[22:07] <Eino_> ppa?
[22:07] <Eino_> I did update and then tried the package
[22:07] <Eino_> no luck
[22:07] <SolarisBoy> i dont recall steam being in the ubuntu repo
[22:07] <Eino_> [00:03] <wiggmpk> Eino_: sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 [00:04] <wiggmpk> Eino_: then "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get install steam64"
[22:07] <Monotoko> darkhelmet46, what command did you run?
[22:08] <bekks> Eino_: First, you should undo that sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386, it will lead to problems in the future.
[22:08] <Eino_> how
[22:08] <k1l> SolarisBoy: it isnt
[22:08] <Eino_> bekks: how?
[22:08] <SolarisBoy> so i wonder how this is complexing Eino_ .
[22:08] <darkhelmet46> Monotoko, sudo bash wubi-move.sh /dev/sda2 /dev/sda3
[22:09] <SolarisBoy> if you haven't added the ppa for steam the package wont be available
[22:09] <k1l> you need a own repo for steam
[22:09] <blackroseblade> how do I uninstall X server and install nvidia's 310.xx drivers?
[22:09] <Monotoko> darkhelmet46, I have an idea... download the Ubuntu LiveCD, run the command again with "--no-bootloader" then install the bootloader from the live CD
[22:09] <k1l> SolarisBoy: yep
[22:09] <blackroseblade> Oh God, so many questions. D:
[22:09] <Eino_> first tell me how to undo that udo dpkg --add-architecture i386
[22:09] <Eino_> before adding any new repo
[22:09] <bekks> blackroseblade: You do NOT uninstall the X server.
[22:09] <Eino_> *sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
[22:09] <SolarisBoy> heh
[22:09] <k1l> blackroseblade: dont uninstall x server
[22:09] <blackroseblade> oh dear. then what do I do?
[22:09] <wiggmpk> k1l: bekks: i have to leave atm, but could one of you PM me with what problems it may cause by adding the another architecture, still learning myself
[22:09] <blackroseblade> Luckily it's a liveusb, so I can still experiment and learn without breaking anything.
[22:10] <Eino_> lol crap
[22:10] <Eino_> they tell me to undo
[22:10] <k1l> blackroseblade: install nvidia-current
[22:10] <blackroseblade> It says please exit X server before installing nvidia
[22:10] <Eino_> but then don't tell how to do that
[22:10] <Eino_> .
[22:10] <bekks> blackroseblade: Just install the latest nvidia driver: nvidia-current
[22:10] <blackroseblade> Alright kll, installing nvidia current
[22:10] <SolarisBoy> Eino_: dont just type commands people give you without knowing what they will do in the future
[22:10] <k1l> Eino_: your only chance is to calm down. your tone is not helping and not motivating others to help you
[22:11] <darkhelmet46> Monotoko, Here was my idea, technically the bootloader must already be installed, otherwise I wouldn't be able to dual-boot to the Wubi install of Ubuntu, correct?  So can I just edit the existing bootloader and give it the new path?
[22:11] <raydeo> anyone have tips on determining why a filesystem won't unmount? I have a lvm-over-luks setup and cannot close the luks device (after deactivating lvm) http://paste.ubuntu.com/5559891/
[22:11] <Monotoko> darkhelmet46, not exactly... it's the Windows bootloader that boots into WUBI
[22:11] <blackroseblade> will 3D acceleration work with this?
[22:11] <Eino_> SolarisBoy: what kind of support channel this is then?
[22:11] <k1l> blackroseblade: that will install 304.43 nvidia driver
[22:11] <blackroseblade> And how does it differ from the 310?
[22:11] <SolarisBoy> Eino_: a free one
[22:11] <darkhelmet46> mono Crap.
[22:11] <Eino_> it would be nice if I can trust official support channels
[22:11] <darkhelmet46> Monotoko, Crap.
[22:11] <Eino_> one says one thing and another another
[22:11] <dryhay> hi. I'm missing my ibus sometimes. could someone check it, please: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2116673
[22:12] <SolarisBoy> Eino_: it doesn't matter who it is tell you something. support or not. have some common sense about your self.
[22:12] <Monotoko> darkhelmet46, you need the GRUB bootloader which it can't install from the Wubi for whatever reason... but you can still do the transfer, then just boot from the LiveCD and install the bootloader from there
[22:12] <Eino_> SolarisBoy: ok, could you then please tell me how to undo that?
[22:12] <blackroseblade> I thought that the latest nvidia 310 releases improved a lot on 3d accel on linux?
[22:12] <SolarisBoy> Eino_: im investigating.
[22:12] <Eino_> of course i could end my life with format /
[22:12] <Eino_> *sudo format /
[22:12] <darkhelmet46> Monotoko, I will try that.  I believe it did everything except install Grub, so I should be able to burn a liveCD and do that.  What would be the procedure?
[22:12] <Eino_> SolarisBoy: ok :)
[22:12] <k1l> blackroseblade: install nvidia-experimental-310 if you want 310. or if you need it. but be aware of that experimental
[22:13] <SolarisBoy> whats format?
[22:13] <SolarisBoy> heh
[22:13] <bekks> SolarisBoy: echo|format ;)
[22:13] <blackroseblade> What about 313 then? All of them are certified apparently.
[22:13] <SolarisBoy> lol
[22:13] <Monotoko> darkhelmet46, same procedure as here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[22:13] <blackroseblade> Not WHQL I mean, but certified for unix
[22:13] <SolarisBoy> alias format="dd"
[22:13] <Eino_> sudo format /
[22:13] <Eino_> will that work?
[22:13] <Eino_> xD
[22:13] <SolarisBoy> dude... dont worry about that
[22:13] <bekks> Eino_: No. That command does not exist.
[22:13] <darkhelmet46> Monotoko, Thanks I will give it a shot.  Question, the LiveCD I have is probably from version 8 or 9 of Ubuntu, do you think that matters?
[22:14] <k1l> blackroseblade: be aware of that experimental
[22:14] <Eino_> oh
[22:14] <SolarisBoy> lol he was ready to do it too...
[22:14] <Monotoko> darkhelmet46, you should probably use the latest
[22:14] <SolarisBoy> smh -
[22:14] <blackroseblade> Hmmm, alright then kll, I'll stick with nvidia current.
[22:14] <Ast001> hello I can not make my wireless keyboard and mouse to work under ubuntu 12.04. Here is pastebin: Bus 001 Device 004: ID 05fe:0011 Chic Technology Corp. Browser Mouse can you help me ?
[22:14] <Shizuo> STOP THE HATE
[22:14] <Eino_> sudo rmdir / could be cool?
[22:14] <Eino_> :D
[22:14] <Ast001> ops sorry http://pastebin.ca/2316927
[22:14] <k1l> Eino_: what is the issue now?
[22:14] <bekks> Eino_: No. Posting nonsense like that is NOT cool.
[22:14] <neirpyc> blackroseblade, are you on a Macbook?
[22:14] <k1l> Eino_: do you want help or just rant and flame?
[22:14] <blackroseblade> Now, for my original query. How can I turn my liveusb persistent?
[22:14] <Monotoko> darkhelmet46, I can't remember when... but at some point they switched from GRUB to GRUB2
[22:15] <blackroseblade> neirpyc: no, ordinary desktop
[22:15] <gordon_> i am using nvidia current and get video glitches with my card
[22:15] <blackroseblade> intel, kingston ram, nvidia card, the works
[22:15] <Eino_> To undo command: 00:03] <wiggmpk> Eino_: sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 [00:04] <wiggmpk> Eino_: then "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get install steam64"
[22:15] <Eino_> i mean this: sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
[22:15] <Eino_> must undo it
[22:16] <SolarisBoy> Eino_: can you paste the output of dpkg --print-foreign-architectures and dpkg --print-architecture (to paste bin)
[22:16] <rickb> i wish ubuntu supported the gforce gfx 560 :(
[22:16] <blackroseblade> rickb: i thought nvidia's latest drivers do support it?
[22:16] <blackroseblade> It's about nvidia, not ubuntu iirc
[22:17] <wiggmpk> SolarisBoy: couldn't he just remove the entry from /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/multiarch?
[22:17] <rickb> true but the latest drivers just break X
[22:17] <Monotoko> rickb, there's a special way to install them
[22:17] <Eino_> SolarisBoy: ok
[22:17] <SolarisBoy> i guess - i never used that argument
[22:17] <rickb> Monotoko: adding the repo and then installin the package?
[22:17] <Monotoko> rickb, no... hold on let me find what I used
[22:17] <rickb> oh cool
[22:17] <Eino_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5559913/
[22:18] <SolarisBoy> i was reading the man page to confirm - if you know that you can do it wiggmpk may as well suggest huh?
[22:18] <neirpyc> Monotoko, what trick is that? When I try to install nvidia-current-updates on my Macbook, it wrecks everything when it tries to start x.
[22:18] <gordon_> how do you see what is on your system (hardware)
[22:18] <rickb> gordon_: sudo lspci |more
[22:18] <Eino_> dpkg: virhe: --print-foreign-architectures ei tarvitse määrittelyjä = dpkg: error: --print-foreign-architectures does not need prefences
[22:18] <Eino_> or something..
[22:18] <SolarisBoy> lshw too
[22:18] <_d4vid> hello guys i have a questions after install 12.04.2 i become kernel 3.5 or need upgrade from 3.2 to 3.5 version of kernel? please help me
[22:19] <SolarisBoy> Eino_: thats incorrect sytax in your paste
[22:19] <Monotoko> rickb, here: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/ubuntu-quetzal-nvidia.html
[22:19] <SolarisBoy> it's two commands
[22:19] <Monotoko> you need to install the kernel sources first
[22:19] <Eino_> oh
[22:19] <Eino_> xD
[22:19] <SolarisBoy> remove the and and press enter instead
[22:19] <Monotoko> so it can build the modules and not break X in the process
[22:19] <rickb> Monotoko: thank you, i'm already botched.
[22:19] <rickb> that helps
[22:20] <neirpyc> Monotoko, when I tried that, it just kept telling me that the linux-headers and stuff weren't needed and wanted to autoremove them. Is that normal?
[22:20] <rickb> ok imma go try this.
[22:20] <Eino_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5559915/
[22:20] <rickb> neirpyc: macs are all messed up with anything not mac lol
[22:20] <rickb> brb
[22:20] <SolarisBoy> why is --add-architecture not in the man page for dpkg?
[22:20] <gordon_> is there a way to see what specific video card is on my system or what ubuntu thinks it is
[22:20] <Monotoko> neirpyc, was this after you installed the drivers?
[22:21] <_d4vid> anybody can answer me?
[22:21] <Eino_> SolarisBoy: what?
[22:21] <_d4vid> please
[22:21] <_d4vid> guys
[22:21] <Fah> Anyone running ubuntu on a macbook pro? I need to pass the kernel some options when it boots so i can fix my nvidia driver. How do you pause the efi boot loader?
[22:21] <_d4vid> hello guys i have a questions after install 12.04.2 i become kernel 3.5 or need upgrade from 3.2 to 3.5 version of kernel? please help me
[22:21] <Ast001> can you help me with this wireless keyboard and mouse ? http://pastebin.ca/2316931
[22:21] <Monotoko> _d4vid, you see how many people are coming and asking questions? It's verry very difficult to keep up with everyone
[22:21] <_d4vid> Monotoko, iam sorry
[22:21] <Eino_> SolarisBoy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5559915/
[22:21] <bencevans> portlane.se.quakenet.org
[22:22] <neirpyc> Monotoko, if I install the nvidia-current-updates and reboot, my screen turns off after grub.
[22:22] <blackroseblade> I'm pretty familiar with IRC and netiquette, but still i gotta ask. How is a person supposed to keep track of their question in here?
[22:22] <Monotoko> _d4vid, generally you leave the kernel alone... what are you trying to do?
[22:22] <blackroseblade> if I've not been answered in 10 minutes can I assume that I need to repeat my question?
[22:22] <blackroseblade> especially since we have such a huge amount of users in here.
[22:22] <Monotoko> blackroseblade, didn't I answer your question?
[22:22] <SolarisBoy> Eino_: try this 'sudo mv /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/multiarch /tmp && dpkg --print-foreign-architectures'
[22:23] <blackroseblade> Monotoko: I'm sorry, I meant my original query.
[22:23] <blackroseblade> About making a liveusb persistent.
[22:23] <neirpyc> Monotoko, I've tried uninstalling nvidia from the login terminal if I pass "text" then installing the linux-headers then reinstalling but I get the same thing with the screen turning off.
[22:23] <Eino_> mv: tiedoston ”/etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/multiarch” tilaa ei voi lukea: Tiedostoa tai hakemistoa ei ole
[22:23] <_d4vid> Monotoko, my questions was .. i will to install 12.04.2 but i dont know what for version kernel i become after install 3.2 or 3.5?
[22:23] <Eino_> cant read because no directory
[22:23] <k1l> _d4vid: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2076905&page=2
[22:23] <SolarisBoy> =0
[22:23] <Monotoko> blackroseblade, I answered that one too... have a look at unetbootin
[22:23] <SolarisBoy> Eino_: ls -l /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/
[22:23] <Monotoko> it'll allow to create a USB drive with persistent storage
[22:24] <Eino_> at total 0
[22:24] <_d4vid> k1l, thank you .. also 3.5?
[22:24] <k1l> _d4vid: with .2 you will have the new kernel stack. when upgrading from .1 you neeed to add a package to get new kernel
[22:24] <_d4vid> k1l, no i will new install not upgrade
[22:25] <blackroseblade> Yeah but can't I change my current one to persistence? I'll google up unetbootin
[22:25] <Eino_> SolarisBoy: It says translated: "at total 0"
[22:25] <Monotoko> blackroseblade, I don't think so
[22:25] <blackroseblade> What about this: http://shallowsky.com/blog/linux/install/ubuntu-persistent-live-cd.html
[22:25] <blackroseblade> I tried that, except the target was invalid(not found)
[22:25] <SolarisBoy> not sure then
[22:26] <_d4vid> k1l, danke dir mehrmals..
[22:26] <Eino_> oh god i hate this channel.. and canoncial.. one people say "do it" other say "don't do it"
[22:26] <SolarisBoy> all thats going to do apparently is make you not have to type --force-architecture when you install things (if you had to when you instsalled it) anyway
[22:26] <blackroseblade> Eino_: Welcome to irc :p
[22:27] <SolarisBoy> lol
[22:27] <Monotoko> Eino_, we're a community... with lots of different opinions on different things
[22:27] <blackroseblade> ^
[22:27] <Eino_> ok
[22:27] <Eino_> but now please teach e
[22:27] <Eino_> how to install steam
[22:27] <Monotoko> Eino_, no idea... haven't tried it yet I'm afraid
[22:27] <k1l> Eino_: last time: stop that ranting and flaming
[22:27] <Eino_> the .deb file provided in steam wiki does not wor
[22:27] <Eino_> k
[22:27] <k1l> Eino_: install it through softwarecenter?
[22:27] <blackroseblade> sensei, share the lore of your people~!
[22:28] <Eino_> Kll: it does not found it
[22:28] <blackroseblade> kll that wouldn't work
[22:28] <Eino_> how to add the reporsietioytidkldfjl
[22:28] <OerHeks> Eino_, good start > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve
[22:28] <SolarisBoy> whammy
[22:28] <blackroseblade> that and steam's own forums Eino_
[22:28] <bd___> Eino_: steam should appear in the USC. What version are you at?
[22:28] <Monotoko> blackroseblade, what's wrong with redoing the drive... if it's not persistent anyway?
[22:28] <SolarisBoy> oh no - thats doing something crazy - whaaaat.... documentation... heh
[22:28] <Eino_> 12.10 64Bit AMD64
[22:28] <blackroseblade> I ah. Trying to set it persistent using installers doesn't exactly seem to work. :|
[22:29] <k1l> Eino_: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/12/steam-for-linux-now-available-for-all-to-download
[22:29] <Monotoko> blackroseblade, that's why I suggested unetbootin :P
[22:29] <blackroseblade> I'll get another usb and try to do it from within ubuntu
[22:29]  * blackroseblade fetches another USB
[22:29] <Shizuo> Steam != Steam
[22:29] <Monotoko> Shizuo, o.o ?
[22:29] <Shizuo> Yes
[22:29] <SolarisBoy> omg that is really confusing Shizuo
[22:29] <Shizuo> I agree
[22:29] <Shizuo> I can't handle it
[22:29] <Eino_> I have installed it from the official site
[22:29] <Eino_> IT DOES NOT WORK
[22:30] <Monotoko> the programmer in me wants to kill you right now Shizuo
[22:30] <Monotoko> :P
[22:30] <Shizuo> The programmer in me just reads false
[22:30] <Monotoko> Eino_, then why aren't you asking the Steam support?
[22:30] <Shizuo> =]
[22:30] <blackroseblade> Monotoko: you're a programmer?
[22:30] <blackroseblade> a dev for ubuntu then? :o
[22:30] <Eino_> Monotoko: they said go here
[22:30] <Eino_> it is ubuntu related problem
[22:30] <SolarisBoy> Shizuo: mines returns false
[22:30] <Monotoko> blackroseblade, not for Ubuntu nah... I work on a little project for a boss in my home time
[22:30] <blackroseblade> oh.
[22:30] <Monotoko> *town
[22:30] <Shizuo> SolarisBoy: Old mines maybe
[22:30] <SolarisBoy> true
[22:30] <Shizuo> SolarisBoy: New mines might return true and explode
[22:30] <Monotoko> and I'm a computer science student... so I have to deal with C# a lot
[22:31] <Eino_> I </3 Canoncial.
[22:31] <Shizuo> I <3 Boobs
[22:31] <Monotoko> Eino_, we are not canonical
[22:31] <SolarisBoy> true != "true"
[22:31] <Eino_> I </3 #Ubuntu
[22:31] <k1l> Eino_: please ask in #ubuntu-steam
[22:31] <madsailor> Hello all.  I cant min/close a window that is maxed from the titlebar in 12.04 after last update. Controls are replaced with window title on mouseover.  Any help?
[22:31] <Shizuo> Idling
[22:32] <bencevans> madsailor hold down alt, click on the window (anywhere) and drag it down
[22:32] <OerHeks> madsailor try F11
[22:32] <Shizuo> Rule nazi
[22:32] <blackroseblade> ugh, I should just install ubuntu and be done with it...
[22:32] <Wolfgang__> Im installing lubuntu into virtual box and im wondering if i Erase disk and install lubuntu will it affect my nowmal hdd?
[22:33] <jon_w> I'm trying to run "sudo -u gitlab -H bundle install --deployment --without development test mysql" but keep getting "sudo: bundle: command not found" because bundle isn't installed for root. How can I run this command then?
[22:33] <blackroseblade> No Wolfgang__ , it shouldn't
[22:33] <blackroseblade> As long as the disc you erase it VM's
[22:33] <blackroseblade> *is vm's
[22:33] <Wolfgang__> blacktoseblad, so im good to go?
[22:33] <Eino_> **** YOU CANONCIAL
[22:33] <madsailor> bencevans,  OerHeks , I can  resize by double clicking the title bar, but the behaviour of it disappearing is what I need to change
[22:33] <Eino_> I hate this operating system
[22:33] <Eino_> it does NOT work
[22:33] <Eino_> support suck
[22:34] <Monotoko> Eino_, then go back to Windows
[22:34] <Eino_> i am glad that i didn't even donate a buck
[22:34] <madsailor> all was fine till the last unity update
[22:34] <Fah> jon_w: isn't installed for rot? what's that mean? Use the full path to the command?
[22:34] <meyer> Hey
[22:34] <leptone> got 12.04 on macbook pro. after enablin cube system freezes when i switch workspaces using Ctrl+alt+arrow. any advice?
[22:34] <jon_w> Fah: i mean that if I log as root and try to use "bundle" command it does not exist
[22:34] <Eino_> Think
[22:34] <Eino_> this channel has full of ANGRY PEOPLE
[22:34] <Eino_> who has problems with Ubuntu
[22:35] <jon_w> Fah: only exists for other users
[22:35] <meyer> Is there any solution to remap memory without the option on my bios? Please
[22:35] <Fah> jon_w: where's it installed? Is that directory in root's path?
[22:35] <k1l> Eino_: i told you to stop your ranting and flaming.
[22:35] <k1l> Eino_: stick to the support issues or leave
[22:35] <jon_w> Fah: no, under "~/.rvm/"
[22:36] <Monotoko> I'm surprised he actually left
[22:36] <jon_w> Fah: user home dir
[22:36] <Fah> jon_w: then add it to your path. But why do you even need to run that as root?
[22:37] <meyer> Please , somebody could help me with a memory problem?
[22:37] <smcguinness> I just finished setting up 12.04.1 LTS, but I am running into a monitor issue as seen in this post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1973856
[22:37] <malfunc> hello everyone
[22:37] <jon_w> Fah: because if not I get "Permission denied - /home/gitlab/gitlab/.bundle (Errno::EACCES)"
[22:38] <smcguinness> I'm unable to resolve the issue as they have, because I cannot access /etc/default/grub
[22:38] <blackroseblade> Eino ragequit then i assume
[22:38] <blackroseblade> since i hid my joins and parts
[22:38] <Fah> jon_w: i dont know what you're doing but if you add it to PATH, you can run it. If you're writing to a shared filesystem make sure you don't break permissions for users
[22:39] <smcguinness> has anyone run into the timing issue with a monitor on a new install and resolved it?
[22:39] <jon_w> Fah: I'm afraid to break user permissions
[22:39] <smcguinness> Can the fix be through using the Live CD ash CL
[22:40] <blackroseblade> How do I install a tar.bz package?
[22:40] <blackroseblade> I'm trying to install realtek's v5.xxxx drivers for ALC887
[22:40] <Meyer2436> Hi
[22:40] <blackroseblade> Meyer2436:  that you?
[22:41] <Meyer2436> Yes xD
[22:41] <blackroseblade> xD
[22:41] <blackroseblade> sup mate
[22:41] <blackroseblade> here to help or have help?
[22:41] <Meyer2436> you mean is it the same like when i asked for the GC driver?
[22:41] <Meyer2436> Good thx , and you sup?
[22:41] <blackroseblade> still messing about with ubuntu
[22:42] <blackroseblade> need to learn a few things
[22:42] <Meyer2436> i'm here one more time to have help :p
[22:42] <Meyer2436> if i can help you , try to tell me
[22:42] <Meyer2436> So
[22:43] <Meyer2436> somebody here could help me please?
[22:43]  * blackroseblade shrugs
[22:44] <Tex_Nick> 12.10 ... does the hosts file support wildcards ... such as , *partialName*.com
[22:45] <Meyer2436> ....
[22:45] <otak> Tex_Nick: why?
[22:46] <madsailor>  I cant min/close a window that is maxed from the titlebar in 12.04 after last update. Controls are replaced with window title on mouseover.  Any help? Pic here: http://imgur.com/iU3ffIo .  The three controls top left by mouse.
[22:47] <Tex_Nick> otak : in order to block any url that contains "partialName"
[22:47] <otak> ah you mean /etc/hosts.deny
[22:48] <Tex_Nick> otak : yes ... sorry i should have elaborated ;0
[22:48] <k1l> Meyer2436: what was the issue again?
[22:48] <Meyer2436> xD
[22:48] <Meyer2436> My issue is a global issue
[22:48] <Meyer2436> i mean
[22:49] <Meyer2436> i've a problem with my installed RAM
[22:50] <Meyer2436> my MB is able to do dual channel ( and there is only 2 slots so no difficulty ) but my pc only recognize 3.1 gb ram ( both on win7 and ubuntu x64 )
[22:50] <Meyer2436> PS : my BIOS detect 4gb ram at the start
[22:50] <k1l> Meyer2436: well, does the vga take some ram?
[22:50] <rickb> my system was unrecoverable. no data on it so i wiped it. i'm going to give that howto a shot once it's loaded back up.
[22:50] <Meyer2436> I think
[22:50] <Meyer2436> but there is also a remap memory problem i think
[22:51] <ghoti> Anybody have a favourite _simple_ OCR program?  I'm hoping for something that'll let me simply `ocrbuddy somefile.png > output.txt`, with line breaks where there are line breaks, no need for multi-column, etc.
[22:51] <otak> yes I believe so, all this is well covered in old debian howtos
[22:52] <otak> normally an i.p/netmask would be banned by eg. denyhosts
[22:52] <packetfrog> My dpkg/selinux/vmlinuz is trowing errors when installing unetbootin and others  tried purge  -f install    installl     http://pastebin.com/xaZie6yX   any ideas?
[22:52] <packetfrog> throwing*
[22:53] <Tex_Nick> otak : good enough ... i'll read up on it ... thanks for the input :)
[22:55] <Meyer2436> k1l , are you still here xD?
[22:55] <k1l> yep
[22:55] <Meyer2436> have you any idea about this
[22:55] <packetfrog> :(
[22:55] <packetfrog> squid!
[22:55] <packetfrog> haha like that
[22:55] <k1l> i dont know about remapping ram. but if your mainboard vga takes 0.9GB ram you have to set that in the bios, if possible
[22:56] <Meyer2436> because my bios hasn't this option ( remap memory ) and no update available for it
[22:56] <Meyer2436> right but i see no option about this
[22:56] <Meyer2436> ( btw thanks to help me another time )
[22:58] <root1_> hille
[22:59] <DZEND> is there anybody here using gadmei utv380 on ubuntu?
[22:59] <k1l> Meyer2436: that is hardware related. see the bios. if that is not possible in there i dont know
[22:59] <Meyer2436> ok but
[22:59] <blackroseblade> Hey kll, I've got a ssh tunnel running through terminal
[23:00] <blackroseblade> How do I redirect all my traffic through it?
[23:00] <blackroseblade> terminal commands only please
[23:00] <Meyer2436> for the dual channel , why is it not even if the two ram are identical
[23:01] <Glagnar> Hi im running a program which i want to use 100% of my cpu however its only using approx 8% how can i make it use 100%?
[23:02] <blackroseblade> Glagnar: Shouldn't it automatically run at 100% if the load on it is that high?
[23:03] <atc3030> does anyone here run ubuntu on a macbook air?
[23:03] <Glagnar> i thought it would but its only using like 8% of my cpu
[23:04] <ldiamond> Oi
[23:04] <ldiamond> "System program problem detected" "Do you want to report the problem now?"
[23:04] <ldiamond> How do I know what the hell the problem is?
[23:04] <ldiamond> I just get this popup that asks for my PW
[23:04] <ldiamond> I'm not giving my PW to this unknown thing
[23:05] <Glagnar> i mean its quite computationally intensive but its not using 100% of my cpu which i dont understand
[23:06] <bekks> Glagnar: Then you have to investigate the source code, and possibly rewrite it for using 100% of your CPU.
[23:06] <k1l> ldiamond: press: more information (or similar to this)
[23:06] <k1l> ldiamond: its apport bug service which collects the information
[23:06] <amigamia> i have a tablet here and i was wondeirng if the ubuntu tablet version is beta available? i saw the guy from south africa talking about it. is there anything availbe now for testing for our tablets?
[23:07] <xangua> !tablet | amigamia
[23:07] <k1l> amigamia: better ask in #ubuntu-tablet and #ubuntu-phone
[23:08] <WBF> I need help. I just updated, on 12.10. there is no button to log into a different section like 12.04
[23:08] <blackroseblade> anyone here uses Realtek ALC>
[23:09] <blackroseblade> boy, this is the busiest IRC I've seen yet, and I thought #news@rizon was bad
[23:09] <Glagnar> bekks: i wrote it myself in C (ill be honest im kinda a newbie) i expected it to use 100% as its been going for half an hour and i expect it to take an another hour but its only using 8%?
[23:09] <k1l> WBF: did you look on the very right side in the panel ?
[23:09] <WBF> k1l, yes
[23:10] <k1l> WBF: what do you need there?
[23:10] <atc3030> does anyone use ubuntu on a macbook air? i needd to know how to configure the touchpad so its not so overly sensitive
[23:10] <Threepwood> Glagnar: just use java and it will eat ya CPU (sorry for kiddin) :D
[23:11] <nu2ub_> Hello everyone
[23:11] <WBF> k1l, just let me tell you this, I need to switch to the DE ratpoison or as I like to call it ratp0is0n
[23:11] <nu2ub_> I am new to ubuntu had 12.10 installed but due to a display glitch decided to move to 12.04LTS. In the process found Edubuntu 12.04.Since I have kids i decided to install this. The boot cd worked fine and was connected to Internet during install... Now it does not pick any of the wireless
[23:11] <nu2ub_> networks
[23:11] <dfgdfgdg> What is the cheapest device that can read pdf's ?
[23:11] <k1l> WBF: so just choose the session in lightdm?
[23:11] <WBF> k1l,  how?
[23:12] <nu2ub_> did this install about half an hour ago. It did not connect to the internet when i started the new installation
[23:12] <Glagnar> lol threepwood im numerically modelling a physical system I don’t understand why it isnt using 100% of one of my cpus
[23:12] <nu2ub_> the option for wireless Networks in the top  right button is shaded (can't click on it)
[23:12] <k1l> WBF: log out?
[23:12] <KromiX> nu2ub_ do ifconfig -a
[23:12] <KromiX> and paste it to pastebin
[23:12] <WBF> k1l, there is no button there.
[23:12] <KromiX> show us
[23:12] <nu2ub_> ok
[23:12] <k1l> WBF: sure it is
[23:12] <WBF> k1l, will try once more
[23:13] <Threepwood> Glagnar: locks? waiting for some io? dunno :)
[23:13] <Threepwood> Glagnar: there are plenty of reasons
[23:13] <atc3030> answer my question. does anyone use ubuntu on a macbook air? I understand this is a busy channel. but every time I join i never get help. just saying. not upset. just need some help:)
[23:13] <blackroseblade> atc3030: tell me about it...
[23:14] <atc3030> I have installed Ubuntu numerous times on my mid 2011 macbook air and the touchpad is always outta wack. it is too sensitive. the onetime so bad it would pick up my palm that was sitting about 3 inches off the pad
[23:14] <blackroseblade> Guys can someone help? I've got audio not sounding right. The chipset is supposed to boost the sound through the builtin op-amp, except the application to control it is windows only. How can I get similar functionality in ubuntu?
[23:14] <k1l> !ask | atc3030
[23:15] <atc3030> it also would pick up my finger hovering about 1/2 inch vertically above the pad
[23:15] <blackroseblade> atc3030: I assume you've already tried Mouse and Touchpad in settings?
[23:15] <blackroseblade> LOL
[23:15] <blackroseblade> electromagnetic fingers
[23:15] <atc3030> yep. I've also tried different drivers such as touch egg, semantics and x11 stuff
[23:15] <Glagnar> Threepwood i wish that was the answer but im solving the random walk problem so im not reading any data i just wish it was using all my cpu resources
[23:15] <WBF> k1l, not working there is no button there
[23:15] <Plizzo> I have a RAID5 array which used to consist of three 2TB drives. Last week I added another drive and after that I grew the array to include four devices. Although, I forgot to modify the filesystem size. I will attempt to do this overnight, but I'm wondering if this command is correct: "mdadm --grow /dev/md0 --size=max"
[23:16] <Physicist> Later I had deleted one fgrlx file of my system my pc is a little slow.. I really do not know what is the file, but, it happened. Should I reinstall my driver now!
[23:16] <k1l> WBF: which desktop are you running now?
[23:16] <bekks> Plizzo: That willnot change the filesystem size at all.
[23:16] <jkobyp> atc3030: check your usb ports, sounds like somebody plugged in a wireless mouse just to mess with you
[23:16] <WBF> k1l,  regular ubuntu
[23:16] <k1l> WBF: which is unity?
[23:16] <Physicist> *fglrx* I always do that... fgrlx.
[23:16] <WBF> k1l,  yes
[23:17] <Plizzo> bekks: Why not? I currently have 6TB in my array, but the partition is only 4TB. How can I fix that?
[23:17] <bekks> Plizzo: That will change the size of the md0 device, but not of the filesystem you created on md0.
[23:17] <bekks> Plizzo: Dont mix up device size, partition size, filesystem size.
[23:17] <Physicist> I am now using the new 13.02 beta driver of AMD. A good choice by the way.
[23:17] <SolarisBoy> resize2fs to the rescue
[23:17] <Plizzo> bekks: Oh, alright, then how do I go about increasing the filesystem to expand to the full device size?
[23:17] <nu2ub_> http://pastebin.com/VPL2tDUB
[23:18] <mdh> Plizzo: you can use gparted if you want, that'll do that
[23:18] <bekks> Plizzo: Depends on the filesystem type.
[23:18] <k1l> WBF: so you cant find the logout menu entry in the session indicator?
[23:18] <Physicist> On Kubuntu... Other good choice.. KDE is the best of all.
 it is in the pastebin
[23:19] <WBF> k1l, I can but when I try to login with that DE it doesn't work because there.is.no.button.there.
[23:19] <packetfrog> My dpkg/selinux/vmlinuz is trowing errors when installing unetbootin and others  tried purge  -f install    installl     http://pastebin.com/xaZie6yX   any ideas?
[23:19] <Plizzo> bekks: All the drives as far as I know are ext4, fdisk -l shows this System:
[23:19] <k1l> WBF: ahh ok. so there is no ratpoison entry in lightdm?
[23:19] <Plizzo> bekks: Linux raid autodetect
[23:19] <fcuk112> my ubuntu is throwing errors upon updating - http://pastebin.com/rSDSPxaW
[23:19] <Physicist> Anyone??
[23:19] <fcuk112> any ideas?
[23:19] <WBF> k1l,  yes there is none
[23:19] <bekks> Plizzo: Thats not a filesystem, but a partition type.
[23:20] <Physicist> Later I had deleted one fglrx file of my system, it is a little slow.. I really do not know what is the file, but, it happened. Should I reinstall my driver now!
[23:20] <Physicist> ?? was a question!
[23:20] <atc3030> i am normally more professional than this but this is just freaking ridiculous. this channel obviously cannot handle the demand. It sucks you have to have a bot to auto reply when someone has to point that out. sorry and no disrespect meant. but just kinda lets me down. good day.
[23:20] <popescu93> #fedora-devel
[23:20] <Glagnar> how do i make a program have absolute priority other others?
[23:21] <Physicist> !fglrx | Physicist
[23:21] <bekks> Glagnar: Just use "nice" and "renice".
[23:21] <Glagnar> bekks can you give an example?
[23:21] <Plizzo> bekks: Also, I learned that when adding a disk to a mdadm array, the disk would be formatted automatically. I added a disk (/dev/sde) which had an GPT System on it and two partitions. It is now part of my RAID but still has a GUID table. What do I do?
[23:22] <k1l> WBF: see if this works: http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=20591
[23:22] <bekks> Plizzo: First, you have to tell us which filesystem type you are using.
[23:22] <nu2ub_> 'KromiX' you here
[23:22] <Deskarano> would ubuntu still work if i converted the hard drive that its on into a dynamic disk?
[23:22] <Plizzo> bekks: How do I check?
[23:23] <bekks> Plizzo: By looking at the output of "mount" or "sudo blkid"
[23:24] <nu2ub_> anyone able to help me with wireless
[23:24] <Plizzo> bekks: I used df -T
[23:24] <Plizzo> bekks: /dev/md0               ext4
[23:24] <mdh> nu2ub_: what's the problem with the wireless?
[23:24] <k1l> !ask | nu2ub_
[23:24] <bekks> Plizzo: Then you can just use resize2fs  after growing md0.
[23:24] <Deskarano> would ubuntu still work if i converted the hard drive that its on into a dynamic disk?
[23:24] <Fah> So, anyone using rEFIt to boot ubuntu on a mac? I need to recover my install
[23:25] <bekks> Plizzo: that will then grow the ext4 filesystem on md0.
[23:25] <Plizzo> bekks: It says 3845715976 1K-blocks, 3599869600 used and 50495184 available. That should mean it could be expanded for quite a bit of more space?
[23:25] <nu2ub_> did a fresh install but after reboot the system is not picking up any wireless addreses
[23:25] <bekks> Plizzo: I have no clue "what" says that, and which command you are running. Nor is that the complete output of a command.
[23:26] <nu2ub_> mdh
[23:26] <mdh> nu2ub_: what kind of wireless adapter do you have? or which model of laptop?
[23:26] <nu2ub_> k1l
[23:26] <Plizzo> bekks: So I just run "resize2fs /dev/md0" and it should all be ok?
[23:26] <nu2ub_> I have a gateway NV 58
[23:26] <WBF> gonna try it now k1l
[23:27] <nu2ub_> the wireless worked when i was using ubuntu 12.10 and while I had the new installation DVD
[23:27] <nu2ub_> running
[23:27] <bekks> Plizzo: No. You should carefully read the options and the usage of resize2fs: "man resize2fs"
[23:27] <amigamia> !tablet
[23:27] <amigamia> thanks
[23:27] <nu2ub_> so during install it was working but now the wireless options are shaded and it is not picking any of the channels
[23:27] <Deskarano> would ubuntu still work if i converted the hard drive that its on into a dynamic disk?
[23:28] <Glagnar> cheers bekks that’s increased the speed although not to 100%
[23:29] <nu2ub_> how do i make my name turn red when i am addressing a specific person
[23:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> hello all
[23:29] <luckybunny> guys my computer's doing it again. This time I know very well that I had (or rather have) over 90GB of free space. But the command 'df -h' gives me a full disk, as well as repeated warnings
[23:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> nu2ub_: type their name and it usually does
[23:29] <Plizzo> bekks: I've read the man page, and there are not many options for the kind of operation I'm performing...
[23:30] <nu2ub_> ntzrmtthihu777 thanks
[23:30] <Glagnar> can someone give me a resource to using the cpu to 100% please
[23:30] <bekks> Plizzo: Those few options my render your filesystem in chaos.
[23:30] <mussa> مرحبا
[23:30] <nu2ub_> ntzrmtthihu777 did it work
[23:30] <luckybunny> rebooting doesn't help (it did when my disk was checked for errors, but that was after over 20 cycles, so it won't happen again any time soon)
[23:30] <mdh> nu2ub_: i'm still looking for what kind of card it is
[23:30] <Plizzo> bekks: So what do you suggest, I've read everything and can't find any option that will help me. Could you help me assembe a command then?
[23:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> yup, you're yello to me nu2ub_
[23:31] <nu2ub_> how can i check it here
[23:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> !arabic | mussa
[23:31] <nu2ub_> mdh  can I do it in the terminal
[23:31] <Glagnar> or setting the priortry of a process
[23:31] <Fah> luckybunny: you've given no specific information about what is wrong.
[23:31] <nu2ub_> any command that will show the hardware type
[23:31] <bekks> Plizzo: You should just understand what those options do and you have to decide wether you want them or better not use them.
[23:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> yeah, is it pci or usb?
[23:31] <bekks> Plizzo: Most likely, you do NOT want to disable safety checks, e.g.
[23:31] <luckybunny> Fah: my disk is reading as full, when I know it has over 90GB of free space
[23:32] <nu2ub_> mdh the hardware was working with ubuntu 12.10 and while I was using the installation CD.
[23:32] <Fah> luckybunny: that seems improbable. Are you getting errors? Have you looked at what df shows for disk usage?
[23:33] <Guest17476> when installing wine i get the error message package dependencies cannot be resolved is it possible for my system to use wine ? or do i need  to go back to windows?
[23:33] <luckybunny> df -h shows the disk 100% used
[23:33] <nu2ub_> mdh the installation cd for this Install (edubun 12.04 lts)
[23:33] <mdh> nu2ub_: is the wireless connection showing up in the connection manager, just no access points showing up?
[23:33] <Fah> luckybunny: well it's probably full. Have you seen what the biggest directories are?
[23:34] <luckybunny> I have not downloaded anything (especially not anything 90GB in size) in the past day, but I had 90GB free this morning
[23:34] <Fah> luckybunny: so? is something spewing log messages? Is something writing stuff to the filesystem? the only way to find it is to look
[23:35] <luckybunny> ok... how do I do that?
[23:35] <nu2ub_> mdh yes a blank wireless adapter is showing but no networks and the wireless connections button used to search for connections can't be clicked as it is shaded
[23:35] <mdh> nu2ub_: i really don't know what could be causing that, sorry
[23:36] <Fah> luckybunny: start with du  on the full file system? do -k /mount/point | sort -nr | head -n 20 to see the top 20 largest dirs? Then drill down from there
[23:36] <Plizzo> bekks: I've been through multiple tutorials and neither of them use any kinds of options for the command. Look at this for example... http://www.allmyit.com.au/mdadm-growing-raid5-array-ubuntu
[23:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> nu2ub_: lspci should list your wireless card
[23:36] <nu2ub_> mdh thanks for trying
[23:37] <Glagnar> im really sorry for spamming but ive set nice to -19 but my programme is still only using 9-15% of my cpu what can i do to make it use 100%?
[23:37] <nu2ub_> ntzrmtthihu777 will try that
[23:37] <bekks> Plizzo: You should understand what those options do and why you dont want them, instead of comparing zillions off howtos.
[23:37] <notStewpid> Has anyone here created a wifi hotspot b4?
[23:38] <Plizzo> bekks: I understand what the options do.. but clearly I don't need them since not a single person that used them used the options..
[23:38] <bekks> Plizzo: People often do use them when needed.
[23:39] <nu2ub_> ntzrmtthihu777 i dont see any problems there
[23:39] <Plizzo> bekks: Can I ask you something? When I used sudo mdadm --examine /dev/sdd I get this response:
[23:39] <bekks> Plizzo: But as long as you really do know why you dont want to use them, you are safe.
[23:39] <Plizzo> bekks: MBR Magic : aa55
[23:39] <Plizzo> Partition[0] :   3907027120 sectors at         2048 (type fd)
[23:39] <Fah> Glagnar: if you want load, while true; do true; done
[23:39] <Plizzo> bekks: But then when I examine my latest addition to the array, /dev/sde I get this:
[23:39] <notStewpid> wifi hotspots anyone?
[23:40] <Fah> Glagnar: run a bunch of threads
[23:40] <bekks> Plizzo: Use a pastebin service please.
[23:40] <Plizzo> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5560109/
[23:40] <Plizzo> bekks: And this is /dev/sdd: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5560110/
[23:40] <bekks> Plizzo: And...?
[23:41] <Plizzo> The response is much different, and they're all active disks in the RAID?
[23:41] <bekks> Plizzo: You have to check wether they are members of the RAID. I cant guess it.
[23:41] <Physicist> I'd tryed crack my own wireless with backtrack but could not because a broadcom driver of my system.. I did not know. now I know that. I will try again with no index error.
[23:41] <Plizzo> bekks: They are members of the raid
[23:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> nu2ub_: if you can find out what kind of wireless card you have you can be more specific in your searches for help, is it a broadcom sta?
[23:41] <bekks> Plizzo: So your question is answered, isnt it? :)
[23:42] <Plizzo> bekks: No, why does the response differ?
[23:42] <Plizzo> bekks: I mean, shouldn't it all be the same?
[23:42] <Glagnar> Fah: this is my code it should be at 100% but it isn't ?: http://pastebin.com/LepV5ihf
[23:42] <Physicist> Backtrack use KDE environment too.. I lake that. But I do not know what is the environment of Slackware that I am downloading.
[23:42] <Plizzo> bekks: Or maybe /dev/sde has become a main disk of some sort? It says the array is linear so I guess it has to have a starting unit
[23:42] <bekks> Plizzo: Not necessarily, the output heavily depends on your hardware setup.
[23:43] <Physicist> **like**
[23:43] <notStewpid> hotspot help?
[23:43] <Plizzo> bekks: Alright, well thanks. I'm sorry for bombarding you with questions. I'm decent with Linux but I'm just terrified that any misstake will completely wipe my array :/
[23:43] <bekks> notStewpid: Did you already ask a specific question?
[23:44] <notStewpid> ummmmm, nooooo...
[23:44] <bekks> Plizzo: Which is not tragically, since you have a backup, dont you.
[23:44] <bekks> notStewpid: Then do it now...
[23:44] <notStewpid> Has anyone here used wifi hotspots in ubuntu?
[23:44] <Plizzo> bekks: I have backups of all the files that are important, but not a full scale backup since it's 4TB of data which mostly consists of movies and tv shows
[23:44] <bekks> !anyone | notStewpid
[23:45] <noanmyth> !details
[23:45] <noanmyth> !gq
[23:45] <noanmyth> !poll
[23:46] <notStewpid> I have a problem with wifi hotspots. I am running Ubunut 12.04 LTS, When I try to create a wifi hotspot, it creates it, but without security briefly, and no interrnet access ata ll, when I expect it to work.
[23:47] <noanmyth> !help
[23:47] <noanmyth> !patience
[23:47] <bekks> noanmyth: Stop it please.
[23:47] <packetfrog> My dpkg/selinux/vmlinuz is trowing errors when installing unetbootin and others  tried purge  -f install    installl     http://pastebin.com/xaZie6yX   any ideas?
[23:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> why use unetbootin, packetfrog ?
[23:48] <bekks> packetfrog: Why do you want to reinstall dpkg?
[23:50] <packetfrog> unetbootin is not the issue really its just when i am installing things apt-get is having issues fixing dpkg/extlinux/vmlinuz
[23:50] <packetfrog> It keeps throwing up the same kind of errors for anything I apt-get
[23:50] <bekks> packetfrog: Why are you trying to reinstall dpkg?
[23:50] <bekks> The error message is pretty clear: you dont have a kernel package installed.
[23:50] <packetfrog> I was trying to reinstall all three above mentioned things  as they keep popping up with missing files
[23:50] <packetfrog> or errors
[23:51] <packetfrog> !
[23:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> ah, I see. bekks: he just answered, he is having hell using apt-get.
[23:51] <nu2ub_> ntzrmtthihu777 let me check
[23:51] <bekks> ntzrmtthihu777: HE is just missing an installed kernel package.
[23:51] <packetfrog> I did not understand the underlying issue so tried to shoot a shotgun at it...
[23:52] <packetfrog> the birdshot keeps coming back and hitting me in the face ;)
[23:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> Just tell him that, don't ask him why, he explained his reason, even if it is faulty.
[23:52] <packetfrog> So how do I fix it and why is it like this?
[23:52] <bekks> packetfrog: Whats the output of sudo apt-get install linux-image =
[23:53] <bekks> packetfrog: Without that =
[23:53] <packetfrog> onesec
[23:53] <packetfrog> wait
[23:53] <packetfrog> I am on ubuntu studio  I dont want that kernel stuff right?
[23:53] <bekks> packetfrog: You NEED at least ONE kernel package installed.
[23:54] <nu2ub_> ntzrmtthihu777 ethernet controller is a Broadcom Corp NetLink BCM5784M Gigabit Ethernet PCIe (rev 10)
[23:54] <nu2ub_> ntzrmtthihu777 Network contoller is an Intel Corp WiFi Link 5100
[23:55] <KRomeleoN> is libreoffice still not available?
[23:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> and their aint any reason to shout, bekks.
[23:55] <KRomeleoN> 4.0?
[23:56] <bekks> ntzrmtthihu777: I didnt shout.
[23:57] <Monotoko> bekks, typing in caps is considered shouting
[23:57] <bekks> Monotoko: I know it. Thing is: I didnt do that.
[23:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> nu2ub_: now you can have a search around the net for the info you need, now that you know the specifics. I personally don't have any experience with those particular cards.
[23:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> you NEED at least one... HE is just...
[23:57] <luckybunny> I've cleared a little bit more out of my downloads folder, to make space for this screenie.. baobab appears to agree something's not quite right http://i.imgur.com/qX4lA2W.png
[23:57] <Monotoko> bekks, "<bekks> packetfrog: You NEED at least ONE kernel package installed."
[23:58] <Monotoko> that's shouting
[23:58] <packetfrog> whats the command to reinstall the lowlatency kernel?
[23:58] <packetfrog> googlefu has failed me
[23:58] <bekks> ntzrmtthihu777: So you are sticking at two words now...? Lets go on with support.
[23:58] <mneptok> bekks: avoid typing words or sentences in caps, please. thanks.
[23:58] <zypsy> I thought that was emphasizing.  ?
[23:58] <luckybunny> *this* is emphasis
[23:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> not just me, bekks.
[23:58] <luckybunny> or this if you know how
[23:59] <packetfrog> :*(
[23:59] <mneptok> let's let the subject drop, folks.
[23:59] <nu2ub_> ntzrmtthihu777 thanks