[01:37] <coldpizza72i> Whats the default username/password for a xubuntu live cd?
[01:42] <jpmh> i want to disable the right key click on the desktop since i do not want people changing it - how do i do this
[01:44] <David-A> jpmh: you don't want people to change what? background image?
[01:45] <jpmh> David-A: I do not want them changing anything, adding folders, background etc
[01:47] <David-A> jpmh: is this a home computer or a "kiosk"? if home computer, create a user for every person you know, then it is okay for them to change everything they can, they can't destroy anything for anyone else.
[01:50] <jpmh> David-A: too all intents and puposes it is a kiosk - it is a public access computer in a coffee shop
[01:52] <David-A> it is kind of impossible to try lock down the system by configuring the user interface. you can create folders using the file manager, the terminal. they will find a way.
[01:54] <David-A> jpmh: would the default "guest" account work for you? people can create folders and files and change themes and everything, but when they logout, everytning is reset and all their files forgotten.
[01:55] <jpmh> David-A: I have over 500 that are nicely locked down under ubuntu and have never seen any sign of anyone getting past my lockdowns.  The file-mangnager etc are all not avaiolable to them and with appropriate file permissions I do a lot of limiti
[01:56] <jpmh> David-A: the guest account is what I used to use but I really prefer that they do not need to log on at all - looking at xubuntu since the machines really do not have the horsepower for unity
[02:06] <David-A> jpmh: in settings>Desktop>Icons you can change Icon type to None, which will stop the desktop from being mapped to the ~/Desktop folder. In Menus tab you can remove the program menu from right-click on the desktop.
[02:07] <David-A> jpmh: I don't know how tight a lock out this would be.
[02:12] <David-A> coldpizza72i: (xubuntu 12.04)  username=xubuntu  password=<empty>
[02:41] <sefufuller> hello
[02:50] <xubuntu742> hello
[02:51] <xubuntu742> can someone help me??
[02:53] <GridCube> !ask | xubuntu742
[03:41] <stephenfossa> i put xubuntu o a windows xp laptop using the windows installer, can i have xubuntu as the only os on my system?
[03:44] <holstein> stephenfossa: sure.. you just do a normal full install, wiping the current windows and wubi xubuntu
[03:46] <stephenfossa> how would one go about doing that?
[03:49] <holstein> stephenfossa: just download the iso, and burn it to cd.. boot the machine with it, and install
[03:51] <stephenfossa> i thought so. i dont have any cds on hand, tried with usb though, seemed to take to long
[03:53] <holstein> stephenfossa: i usually use unetbootin.. you can follow any guides for installing ubuntu
[03:53] <holstein> !install
[03:53] <stephenfossa> thanks for the help. you guys are awesome for helping people for free
[03:54] <holstein> stephenfossa: cheers! anytime
[04:42] <Kingdaro> Hey guys, I'm trying to get a clock centered on my top panel, but I've run into some problems. With just throwing it up there, centered with expanded separators, it's never really centered, as the notification icons on the right always nudge it slightly more left or right than it should be...
[04:42] <Kingdaro> ....I came up with the solution to just make another panel dedicated to keeping the clock centered, and just have it on top of the main one, but transparent. Doesn't work well, as when I use the main panel, it just goes behind and I can barely see it.
[04:42] <Kingdaro> So how would I go about keeping it centered?
[04:43] <Cheri703> Kingdaro: you might make 3 separate panels? one left, one center, one right?
[04:44] <Kingdaro> Cheri703: I also thought of that, I wasn't sure if it would work. There could be spaces between the three panels, but I could just use another one and put it behind the three.
[04:44] <Kingdaro> Would a "filler" panel always stay in the back if unused?
[04:44] <Cheri703> why would there need to be spaces?
[04:45] <Kingdaro> No, no, I mean there would be spaces if i used different panels.
[04:45] <Cheri703> you can always just drag your existing panel out of the way and make new panels to play with, deleting them if it doesn't work
[04:45] <Kingdaro> Well alright, I'll try it out. Thanks.
[04:46] <Cheri703> I'm a fan of "try it and see what happens" :)
[04:46] <Cheri703> good luck :)
[05:09] <onux> hello anyone ?
[05:10] <onux>  i would like to asked about xubuntu ?
[05:13] <holstein> !ask
[05:14] <bazhang> !xubuntu > onux
[05:29] <onux> i am looking fo xbuntu live cd .iso around 30MB ?
[05:30] <holstein> onux: its not. its bigger than that
[05:31] <onux> anyone can help, i look for ubuntu GUI, around 30MB, less features would be alright . anyone knows ?
[05:33] <holstein> onux: there wont be one.. they are bigger
[05:34] <onux> what is the minimum of ubuntu without application ?
[05:34] <holstein> http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/ maybe
[05:34] <holstein> onux: bigger than that
[05:34] <onux> is SDL ubuntu ?
[05:34] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[05:34] <onux> is DSL ubuntu ?
[05:34] <holstein> onux: no.. there are no ubuntu versions that small
[05:34] <onux> i get the minimal
[05:34] <onux> but required to install online.
[05:34] <onux> ..
[05:34] <holstein> onux: the minimal is not live
[05:34] <onux> and
[05:34] <onux> ..
[05:35] <onux> holstein,
[05:35] <holstein> onux: stop hitting the enter key so muh please
[05:35] <holstein> much*
[05:35] <onux> is minimal can run added program ?
[05:35] <onux> without installing.
[05:35] <holstein> onux: minimal is not live
[05:36] <onux> what is minimal size of debian ?
[05:37] <holstein> onux: similare.. bigger than that
[05:37] <holstein> http://puppylinux.org/main/Download%20Latest%20Release.htm#ppup is an ubuntu compatible puppy that is small-ish
[05:37] <onux> i only want to run program that required sudo -A cat grep
[05:38] <onux> any live cd .iso can run that ?
[05:38] <onux> ..
[05:38] <onux> ?
[05:38] <onux> i need os that run apt-get sudo lsb_release
[05:38] <onux> to execute..
[05:39] <onux> is there any ?
[05:39] <holstein> onux: with size restritions...
[05:39] <onux> size around 30MB, that will run those instruction ?
[05:41] <holstein> onux: not that im aware of
[05:41] <onux> oh, ok.. im look for it.
[05:41] <holstein> onux: you can try to install from minimal.. youcan try the puppy linux iso.. you can try dsl
[05:42] <onux> i can ?
[05:43] <onux> so after boot minimal what should i do to run .iso files ?
[05:43] <onux> on it's flash
[05:43] <onux> ?
[05:44] <holstein> onux: ?
[05:44] <onux> because the only choice is to go online, which i am not prefered to make the network settings.
[05:44] <onux> and..
[05:45] <onux> i choose to go out there, it showed console.. ?
[05:45] <holstein> onux: what you want doesnt exist.. there is no live CD that is 30.. there is the minimal.. you can install that to a USB stick and boot it up.. it'll be bigger than 30mbs.. you can install/remove what you need
[05:46] <onux> when the minimal ubuntu run it end with GUI, to go online right ?
[05:47] <holstein> onux: ? end with gui?
[05:47] <holstein> onux: you get minimal... just a command prompt
[05:47] <onux> right
[05:47] <onux> no
[05:47] <holstein> onux: yes
[05:47] <holstein> onux: that is its function.. its not up for debate.. you install and you get a minimal command line system
[05:48] <onux> when i boot minimal, i end on GUI, and the GUI only allows me to get a network.
[05:48] <holstein> onux: you dont nee a gui for networking
[05:48] <holstein> need*
[05:48] <onux> i already tried the quantal
[05:48] <onux> it is stop on GUI to do network.
[05:49] <onux> right ?
[05:49] <holstein> onux: i dont know what that means.. "it is stop on network"
[05:50] <onux> it meant boot>minimal>some text loading/commandprompt loading/GUI settings network.
[05:50] <onux> right ?
[05:50] <onux> so it's end on GUI
[05:50] <onux> Graphics.
[05:51] <holstein> no. minimal is just that.. no GUI. just text
[05:51] <holstein> onux: and it will be bigger than 30 mb's
[05:51] <onux> i tried the latest called quantal
[05:51] <onux> "quantal quetzal"
[05:52] <holstein> onux: ok
[05:52] <onux> see.
[05:53] <holstein> no.. im sorry, i dont.. you tried 12.10? and what?
[05:53] <holstein> its too big? doesnt work? what?
[05:53] <onux> i tried 12.10 entering GUI for installation, and i stop there.
[05:53] <onux> it's a GUI.
[05:53] <holstein> right
[05:54] <holstein> onux: the minimal is not a gui
[05:54] <onux> see.
[05:54] <holstein> onux: no, im sorry, i dont see
[05:54] <onux> did you know GUI ?
[05:54] <onux> Graphics User Interface.
[05:54] <onux> right ?
[05:54] <holstein> onux: ? xubuntu is uing XFCE
[05:55] <holstein> onux: right.. GUI.. i know what it is, and i know that xubuntu 12.01 ships with one, and you tried it
[05:55] <onux> the minimal is using GUI.
[05:55] <holstein> onux: no
[05:55] <holstein> the minimal has no gui
[05:55] <onux> to get connected to the internet.
[05:55] <onux> its on 12.10
[05:55] <holstein> onux: it doesnt ship with, or install a gui by defaut
[05:55] <onux> quantal
[05:55] <bazhang> onux, stop repeating
[05:55] <onux> ok.
[05:55] <onux> ill stop there.
[05:55] <holstein> onux: quantal, 12.01.. minimal.. doenst have  GUI. doesnt ship with one
[05:56] <holstein> onux: no GUI installs with the minimal installtion CD.. you can install one if you need/want
[05:56] <bazhang> onux, the minimal is text only. NO GUI
[05:56] <onux> ok then.
[05:56] <onux> so i want minimal with minimal GUI.
[05:56] <holstein> onux: there is not such thing
[05:57] <holstein> onux: the GUI is big, and takes up space.. the 2 suggestions i gave are the smallest i know of
[05:57] <onux> well that's too bad.
[05:57] <onux> i only required smallest GUI.
[05:57] <holstein> onux: there is no ubuntu version with GUI that is live and 30mb's
[05:57] <onux> to run SUDO
[05:58] <holstein> onux: no, you dont need a GUI to run sudo
[05:59] <onux> right
[05:59] <onux> so, is minimal way to access it's own flash disk ?
[05:59] <holstein> onux: i mean no disrespect, but can i help you find a localized channel? maybe for your native language?
[05:59] <holstein> onux: i dont know what that means
[06:00] <onux> boot the minimal, and then console ? is that possible ?
[06:00] <onux> and execute sudo ?
[06:00] <onux> is that possible ?
[06:00] <bazhang> use sudo to do what onux
[06:01] <onux> and open flash data ?
[06:01] <holstein> onux: the minimal is not a live CD. you install.. boot to a text prompt and do what you need
[06:01] <bazhang> what flash data onux
[06:03] <onux> sudo todo file.sh
[06:03] <bazhang> onux, what is in the file. where is it from
[06:03] <onux> what is already in minimal /bin
[06:04] <bazhang> onux, how much ram does your computer have, what video card, how much hdd space
[06:04] <onux> enough.
[06:05] <bazhang> onux, give us the specs
[06:05] <onux> enough spec.
[06:05] <bazhang> tell us some exact numbers onux
[06:05] <onux> why ?
[06:05] <bazhang> onux, you want help, please answer some questions
[06:06] <onux> i dont know, it will run windows XP at least.
[06:06] <bazhang> onux, so 128mb of ram
[06:06] <onux> maybe ?rn
[06:07] <bazhang> yeah ubuntu wont run on that, unless you have a very minimal system with no GUI at all
[06:07] <onux> what ?
[06:07] <holstein> onux: ubuntu needs more resources than 128 ram
[06:07] <bazhang> onux, your computer specs are not good enough for a GUI
[06:07] <onux> it did great with GUi.
[06:08] <onux> it pass win3.11 GUI
[06:08] <bazhang> no chance
[06:08] <bazhang> hehe
[06:08] <onux> it pass win 95 GUI
[06:08] <bazhang> win3.11
[06:08] <onux> it pass win98 GUI
[06:08] <onux> why not ubuntu
[06:08] <onux> so ubuntu GUI is so efficient then.
[06:08] <bazhang> those are decades old
[06:08] <onux> i dont getit?
[06:08] <holstein> onux: those numbers equate to years. win95,= 1995
[06:08] <bazhang> clearly
[06:09] <holstein> onux: the modern windows 8 wont run on your hardware, and that is more of an analog to modern ubuntu
[06:09] <bazhang> a computer that old wont run any kernel that I can think of
[06:09] <onux> just like what i asked before looking for smallest GUI possible.
[06:09] <holstein> onux: there is no gui for you
[06:09] <holstein> onux: you can try puppy, and dsl
[06:10] <bazhang> onux, not going to happen, nothing runs on that poor and slow a computer
[06:10] <onux> right puppy and dsl have alot smaller GUI.
[06:10] <onux> but i am trying to get it from ubuntu.
[06:10] <onux> if possible.
[06:10] <bazhang> nope
[06:10] <holstein> onux: i linked you a puppy version that is ubuntu based
[06:11] <onux> no thank's
[06:11] <onux> already got puppy.
[06:11] <holstein> onux: its not officially supported by ubuntu, but thats as close as you will get
[06:11] <onux> whoops
[06:11] <onux> sorry
[06:11] <onux> is there puppy that is ubuntu based.
[06:11] <onux> ok then
[06:11] <onux> please tell me ?
[06:12] <holstein> onux: sure. let me scroll up and grab the link again...
[06:12] <onux> ok. waiting.
[06:12] <holstein> onux: http://puppylinux.org/main/Download%20Latest%20Release.htm#ppup
[06:13] <onux> getting..
[06:14] <bazhang> onux, thats not supported here, go to the puppy channel for discussion and support
[06:14] <bazhang> !alis | onux have a search
[06:15] <onux> is it the lucid one ?
[06:15] <holstein> onux: no worries.. maybe you didnt see me post it at the beginning of our chat.. and like bazhang , and i have said, its not officially supported here, or my ubuntu
[06:15] <holstein> onux: "it" says in its documentation
[06:15] <holstein> onux: it is literally the only one that you an download that is "ubuntu", with a GUI, live and small-ish
[06:15] <bazhang> onux /msg alis list *puppy*    to find their support channel
[06:17] <onux> thank's it's still over 100MB. i will still search for under that.. thanks all.
[06:17] <holstein> onux: cool!.. there is none though. but good luck!
[06:21] <Unit193> So AntiX or SliTaz then.
[06:21] <holstein> Unit193: slitaz is a good one.. but i think even antiX is too big
[08:02] <misterjinx> hello, i want to use the unity-greeter for lightdm, but when i do the apt-get install unity-greeter it saya  that it has to install a bunch of other packages as well. is this normal ? should I be ok with this ? I mean, can this broke something of my current packages ?
[08:39] <jutas> Hi guys. Do you know if i'm using compiz the normal window manager in system settings menu why is disabled?
[09:42] <misterjinx> hello, i want to use the unity-greeter for lightdm, but when i do the apt-get install unity-greeter it saya  that it has to install a bunch of other packages as well. is this normal ? should I be ok with this ? I mean, can this broke something of my current packages ?
[09:45] <xubuntu191> just now installing via LXF live disk, happy to get a usable interface in comparison to Unity
[09:46] <baizon> misterjinx: you try to install unity-greeter?
[09:48] <baizon> misterjinx: well yes it does have some gnome3 dependencies
[09:48] <misterjinx> yep, that's what I was asking if it is normal to install all the othe dependencies, cause there are a lot of it
[09:48] <baizon> yes
[09:49] <baizon> because most of them are gnome 3 stuff :)
[09:49] <misterjinx> ok, i see
[09:49] <baizon> after taht just go "/etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf" and change "greeter-session=" to unity-greeter
[09:49] <baizon> thats all
[09:50] <misterjinx> ok, thanks for the heads up
[10:07] <xubuntu906> my xubuntu 12.10 install is 'hanging' during > next (3rd party & download updates)
[10:07] <xubuntu906> what can i try?
[10:10] <xubuntu906> i tried to boot the notebook without the wifi card
[10:10] <xubuntu906> i tried to plugin more ram
[10:10] <xubuntu906> it still hangs on that screen, when i click next
[10:11] <xubuntu906> i can abort though, the computer is not freezed
[10:17] <Loetmichel> mornin'
[10:18] <Loetmichel> anyone hat problems with an IBM X60s and Wireless?
[10:19] <Loetmichel> my notebook connects fine to my wlan if i boot XP first and then Xubuntu 12.10. If i Coldboot Xubuntu i can see the Wireless lans but cannt connect. Maybe the fres install doesent install the firmware or something?
[10:19] <Loetmichel> Where can i search for this problem?
[10:21] <well_laid_lawn> Loetmichel:  I'd check   dmesg   ina terminsl first
[10:21] <Loetmichel> for what?
[10:21] <well_laid_lawn> try   dmesg | grep -i wlan    maybe
[10:22] <Loetmichel> *checking*
[10:22] <well_laid_lawn> luck
[10:23] <Loetmichel> *reboot /coldboot*
[10:23] <well_laid_lawn> k
[10:23] <Loetmichel> *gnah* wants to install 29 updates... ;-)
[10:24] <Loetmichel> ... will be a moment
[10:34] <Loetmichel> hmm, now it runs...
[10:34] <Loetmichel> strange
[10:34] <Loetmichel> sorry for the stirrup. seems the updates have fixed ist.
[10:35] <well_laid_lawn> that's fine :)
[10:41] <Loetmichel> cu
[10:41] <well_laid_lawn> cheers
[11:42] <Rogach> Hello! I have a simple question: how does one change keyboard layouts in Xubuntu 12.04?
[11:46] <torax> settings->settings manager->keyboard->layout
[11:46] <torax> Rogach:
[11:47] <Rogach> torax: Well, I found that. But if I want to change my layout with some shorcut?
[11:47] <Rogach> torax: I always kept two layouts - english and my native.
[11:48] <Rogach> torax: And going into that setting manager each time I want to switch layout is quite daunting.
[11:48] <torax> ok, just a minute
[11:49] <torax> Rogach: rigt click on the panel, select panel->add new items->keyboard layout
[11:50] <torax> then flag appears in your panel, right click it and select properties
[11:52] <Rogach> torax: Thanks, that worked!
[11:53] <Rogach> Also, I wanted to remap the CapsLock key to work as additional Ctrl. Is that possible?
[11:53] <torax> yes, it is. I just dont know how :D
[11:54] <Rogach> torax: Wow. That's quite frightening :( In gnome, that was all in global keyboard preferences, and was quite obvious.
[11:55] <torax> I've never remapped anything
[11:55] <Rogach> torax: Since I am emacs user, I use Ctrl a lot, and it's default position is very uncomfortable.
[11:56] <torax> Rogach: http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?RemapCapsLock
[11:56] <torax> that might help you
[11:56] <Rogach> torax: Thanks!
[11:57] <torax> Rogach: http://serverfault.com/questions/10437/how-do-you-swap-the-caps-lock-to-control-in-xfce
[11:58] <torax> I hope you find some solution from those links =)
[11:58] <Rogach> torax: Yes, the last link worked for me. Thanks!
[12:05] <Rogach> Where are "Startup Applications" located physically? In what directory?
[12:12] <TheSheep> Rogach: in /etc/xdg/autostart/ and ~/.config/autostart/
[12:15] <Rogach> TheSheep: Thanks!
[12:17] <zorgborg> hi ive installed xubuntu alongside ubuntu, but when i run /usr/share/ecryptfs-utils/ecryptfs-mount-private.desktop the command is not found, how do i access my files on the ubuntu partition?
[12:34] <Rogach> torax: Well, that second way to remap caps failed for me - it gets reset after a while.
[13:24] <meh_> hello, I was trying to play a dvd in vlc, but I got the error message main input error: ES_OUT_RESET_PCR called
[13:25] <TheSheep> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vlc/+bug/944454
[13:27] <meh_> Hmmm. I took a look at the website, would you have any suggestions on how to fix it?
[13:28] <meh_> Would it work to install a version older than TwoFlower?
[13:29] <TheSheep> do you have the codecs for playing dvd installed?
[13:30] <meh_> Is libdvdcss a codec?
[13:30] <TheSheep> yes, at least that's what I had in mind
[13:31] <meh_> Yes, so I'm not sure why it won't work.... is it a region setting thing?
[13:32] <TheSheep> is that a commercial dvd? some companies, (notably Sony) are known to produce broken dvds so that they don't play in computer dvd drives
[13:32] <TheSheep> but I have no idea what error you get with them
[13:33] <TheSheep> also, are you sure that this is the actual error, and not just a warning, and the error is something else?
[13:33] <meh_> Yes it's commercial. I tried looking at V=https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[13:33] <meh_> But I don't get the error messages they describe....
[13:50] <misterjinx> I just installed unity-greeter but I think something is not working properly because the login screen is looks like it's using some very old icons/windows theme (kinda like the debian icons). anyone have any idea what's going on and what should I do in order to fix this ?
[13:51] <baizon> misterjinx: http://askubuntu.com/questions/68234/is-it-possible-to-use-the-unity-greeter-for-lightdm-on-xubuntu-11-10
[13:56] <misterjinx> baizon: if you're reffering to the gnome-settings-daemon, it is already installed
[14:15] <misterjinx> baizon: here's how it looks like http://i.imgur.com/lSsnng3.png and when i click to select the environment http://i.imgur.com/QTdu0Xo.png. I don't think this is the expected display
[14:16] <baizon> is this xubuntu 12.10?
[14:16] <misterjinx> yes
[14:21] <baizon> misterjinx: you need the suggested packages too
[14:21] <baizon> that will fix it
[14:22] <baizon> misterjinx: http://askubuntu.com/questions/117635/how-to-install-suggested-packages-in-apt-get
[14:22] <baizon> you need the indicator stuff which will fix your problem
[14:23] <misterjinx> ok, let me try this
[14:25] <misterjinx> if i do sudo apt-get --install-suggests install unity-greeter it says that unity-greeter is already the newest version and it has nothing to install
[14:26] <baizon> misterjinx: try --install-recommends please
[14:26] <baizon> there are no suggested packages
[14:26] <baizon> only recommended
[14:27] <misterjinx> nope, i get the same result
[14:27] <misterjinx> perhaps if i remove it and reinstall ?
[14:28] <baizon> try it :)
[14:31] <misterjinx> nope, the result is the same :|
[14:34] <baizon> misterjinx: try and install ubuntu-mono
[14:37] <misterjinx> baizon: the font family ?
[14:38] <baizon> misterjinx: http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/ubuntu-mono
[14:38] <misterjinx> anyway, i installed, but nothing changed. i think there is something broken with the theme, not the fonts
[14:39] <misterjinx> hmm...hold on
[14:40] <misterjinx> nope, nothing, those packages already existed
[14:42] <pod> Hi! Does anyone know what the "stick"-button in the window bar do?
[14:42] <knome> pod, it sticks the window to all workspaces
[14:44] <pod> Thanks, knome!
[14:44] <knome> np.
[15:06] <pod> Are there any universal commands to which i can bind my Fn-media buttons (for play/pause, back, forward and stop) or are the commands application specific?
[15:11] <baizon> pod: yes
[15:12] <baizon> pod: http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-settings/keyboard#application_shortcuts
[15:12] <baizon> there you can put your shortcuts
[15:12] <laite> that's actually really interesting question; I think many applications follow some general dbus-commands you can bind
[15:13] <baizon> pod: and the second link... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XfceMultimediaKeys
[15:14] <baizon> this 2 links should help
[15:14] <pod> Thanks!, I'll check them out!
[15:14] <baizon> np
[15:17] <laite> hm, I think MPRIS2 interface is what I'm thinking here, that should be able to create (almost) generic shortcut commands
[15:17] <laite> I think most of the players support that
[15:18] <sam123> How do I stop the "crash report detected" icon and reminder from appearing until I get another crash report?
[15:19] <nick07_> my xubuntu stops or loops during install
[15:19] <nick07_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5558420/
[15:20] <sam123> How do I stop the "crash report detected" icon and reminder from appearing until I get another crash report? I am using Ubuntu Studio.
[15:20] <nick07_> it happend with the screen where you see that the power is connected and the internet is connected and I push next
[15:23] <knome> !patience | sam123
[15:23] <knome> sam123, the answer is that you want to remove apport.
[15:24] <sam123> What is apport?
[15:24] <knome> sam123, that's the application that sends the error reports.
[15:25] <sam123> Will that disable all of them?
[15:25] <knome> sam123, if you remove it, you will not get notifications, as i said
[15:25] <knome> yes, that will disable them all
[15:25] <sam123> Can I just get this one report gone?
[15:25] <knome> nope
[15:26] <knome> ...you're welcome
[15:29] <bullgard4> [Xubuntu 12.04.2] How to make uxterm's output in color?
[15:30] <nick07_> is there anyone that can translate my error in the log file?
[15:31] <baizon> nick07_: your language installation didnt go well
[15:31] <baizon> had that problem once
[15:32] <baizon> i would recommend to reinstall it
[15:32] <nick07_> if i install 'default' english, then it does this also...
[15:32] <nick07_> what would be your solution?
[15:32] <baizon> i had to reconfigure it
[15:32] <nick07_> how to do that?
[15:32] <baizon> it was a little bit tricky
[15:33] <nick07_> can you discripe it?
[15:33] <nick07_> descripe
[15:35] <baizon> it was long time ago, sorry i dont remember
[15:36] <baizon> but i think google can help you
[15:36] <baizon> nick07_: try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/162391/how-do-i-fix-my-locale-issue
[15:36] <nick07_> thx
[15:38] <milo64> hello, anyone?
[15:38] <milo64> help me please
[15:38] <baizon> !ask | milo64
[15:38] <milo64> baizon: good, i caught your attention
[15:39] <baizon> =)
[15:39] <milo64> now, what does Xubuntu (what package) that displays the USBs as icons on the desktop?
[15:43] <TheSheep> misterjinx: xfdesktop
[15:43] <TheSheep> misterjinx: sorry, tab fail
[15:44] <milo64> sorry, it was a weird tmux bug
[15:44] <milo64> did i misss anything?
[15:44] <milo64> baizon:
[15:48] <baizon> milo64: http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-mount-plugin
[15:49] <baizon> milo64: or you can try this: http://theubuntudocumentary.wordpress.com/2012/07/18/install-usb-safe-removal-indicator-applet-ubuntu-12-04/
[15:49] <baizon> you mean desktop icon or indicator icon?
[15:53] <baizon> milo64: for the desktop change settings... http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfdesktop/preferences
[15:53] <baizon> look at "Icons"
[15:54] <milo64> thank you baizon, i'm going now, brb
[16:39] <xubuntu383> hello
[16:40] <xubuntu383> hello?
[16:40] <knome> !hi | xubuntu383
[16:44] <relapse> Hi
[16:44] <relapse> Does anyone here use google voice?
[18:00] <lighta> hi guys
[18:01] <lighta> how can I fix gedit color theme in xubuntu ?, all filemame in tab are written in black in a black area
[18:06] <Rogach> Why is there a "ctrlMask" and no "shiftMask" or "al
[18:07] <Rogach> Why is there a "shiftMask" and no "ctrlMask" or "altMask"?
[18:08] <Rogach> oops, sorry, wrong channel.
[18:31] <bullgard4> lighta:  Xfce applications menu > Settings > Settings Manager > Appearance > Style > select another Style item.
[18:44] <misterjinx> i finally found the missing package for unity-greeter to work (btw it was ubuntu-artwork) and now i would like to change the background, but in /etc/lightdm/ there is no unity-greeter.conf, just a lightdm-gtk-greeter-ubuntu.conf but if i change something here it is not taken into consideration. what should i do ?
[18:49] <baizon> misterjinx: there are many sollutions ... http://askubuntu.com/questions/64001/how-do-i-change-the-wallpaper-in-lightdm
[18:49] <baizon> the 4 one did it for me
[18:50] <misterjinx> baizon: thanks
[19:45] <guest-8Jv0t3> hi to all, could someone help me with a problem with login via lightdm in xubuntu 12.04?
[19:52] <sSs> whats the problem?
[19:57] <guest-8Jv0t3> When I log in with my user the system seems to start correctly but then it return to the login screen.I can login only with the guest account. But if I use the console login I can log in with my user name
[19:59] <guest-8Jv0t3> I had to reinstall the system this morning, I have a separate /home and I used the same username that I had before for using it
[20:00] <guest-8Jv0t3> when I log in with the console the owner of the home is correct, I can't see any problem of permissions
[20:04] <David-A> guest-8Jv0t3: can you see any hints in the ~/.xsession-errors ?
[20:06] <David-A> guest-8Jv0t3: maybe something wrong in a dot-file. try move away (rename) the ~/.config folder. if that helps, then move back subfolders one at a time until login fails again.
[20:10] <guest-8Jv0t3> @David-A I don't have any recent .xsssion-errors file. But I'll try to do as you suggest. Thanks
[20:17] <gts> Try this shot: $ ls -l /home/yourusername/.Xauthority I reproduced your issue in exact way when file is (somehow) owned by root, not by yourusername (see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2037174).
[20:50] <CHIex> Hello, I am new to Linux, am looking for distribution. You can give any advice about that? What  would be recommended minimum for XUBUNTU?
[20:51] <sSs> anything higher than a 386 with at least 512 RAM and 10GB HDD
[20:51] <CHIex> What about CPU?
[20:52] <sSs> anything but ARM based
[20:52] <sSs> and higher than 486
[20:52] <sSs> IE Pentium I or better
[20:53] <sSs> and 32MG graphics memory
[20:53] <sSs> MB*
[20:53] <knome> everything is subjective though.
[20:54] <knome> 512 RAM will run xubuntu, but it might not be as smooth as you'd expect
[20:54] <sSs> actually i ran Xubuntu on a 16MB Diamond and it did fine
[20:56] <CHIex> so Xubuntu is perfect choice for old computers?
[20:56] <sSs> thats what its for
[20:56] <David-A> CHIex: can you tell us about your hardware? then maybe you will get more specific advice
[20:57] <knome> i disagree. it's not perfect for all older computers regardless of age.
[20:57] <CHIex> Do programs that are compatible with Ubuntu work on Xubuntu too? Are there some exceptions?
[20:57] <CHIex> 1000 mhz Barton AMD
[20:57] <sSs> xubuntu is ubuntu
[20:57] <David-A> CHIex: even better for old computer is Lubuntu (lxde desktop), but I like the xfce desktop better.
[20:58] <CHIex> IT would be used to download podcasts-similarly than server
[20:58] <CHIex> I heard LXDE is buggy because its newer
[20:59] <CHIex> is that true?
[20:59] <David-A> CHIex: I have not tried lxde thoroly, but i don't think it is buggy
[21:00] <CHIex> so all programs for Ubuntu work on Xubuntu too?
[21:00] <sSs> yes
[21:00] <CHIex> support on IRC for Xubuntu seems better, more people are here. Why is this so?
[21:01] <Rogach> Q: How can I remap CapsLock to be additional Ctrl on Xubuntu 12.04?
[21:01] <sSs> ubuntu has a large support community and xubuntu is very popular
[21:01] <David-A> CHIex: there are links to reviews and test for many many distros at http://distrowatch.com/
[21:01] <CHIex> I have been there
[21:02] <sSs> Rogach, Launcher Menu -> settings -> settings manager -> keyboard -> shortcuts
[21:02] <CHIex> Xubuntu and PuppyLinux were at the top for my needs
[21:02] <sSs> puppy is nice too
[21:02] <CHIex> but for 1000 MHZ AMD , 1 GB  ram, XUBUNTU would be perfect, right?
[21:02] <Rogach> sSs: There's only 'Application Shortcuts'.
[21:03] <Rogach> CHIex: Yes.
[21:03] <CHIex> Puppy isnt compatible with Ubuntu software, right?
[21:03] <David-A> CHIex: crunchbang linux is supposed to be relatively lightweight too
[21:03] <sSs> i prefer xubuntu. and if it doesnt have a teensy tiny little hard drive, i prefur Ubuntu Studio ( it's pretty much the same as xubuntu)
[21:04] <GridCube> CHIex, puppy its compatible, there is a "puppy ubuntu" or something like that in their page
[21:04] <CHIex> Well disk is 160 GB
[21:05] <BillyZane2> hi. something weird has happened on my desktop. while using xchat, a segment of the screen stoped working. There is a small square, about 2x2, that is frozen. i can still move my mouse over this region, but any window i move over this region is forced under this square. it is there regardless of the desktop i switch to
[21:05] <CHIex> well I would like to have Xubuntu or Lubuntu, because there is more support and is more popular and for begginers
[21:05] <BillyZane2> i don't want to restart my computer out of principal
[21:06] <GridCube> that happened to me the other day too, i restarted the x session because not even xkilling it worked, but i was playing with my monitors and what not so i assumed it was that
[21:06] <BillyZane2> are you talking to me?
[21:06] <GridCube> BillyZane2, yup
[21:07] <BillyZane2> so restarting the x session solved it?
[21:07] <GridCube> yes
[21:07] <sSs> i used to have that happen a lot in 12.04. (and every version of windows)  only way i can get rid of it is restarting the PC (killing and restarting X didnt even help)
[21:07] <GridCube> you just need to relogin
[21:07] <sSs> good
[21:07] <BillyZane2> grid, i've never done that before. can i do this without terminating the applications that are running?
[21:07] <GridCube> no
[21:07] <BillyZane2> grid: i persume the command it ctrl+alt+backspace
[21:08] <BillyZane2> isn't there a way to just shut down x
[21:08] <CHIex> Which is better for begginers to Linux? Lubuntu or Xubuntu?
[21:08] <GridCube> it used to, but i dont think that works inxubuntu
[21:08] <GridCube> !better | CHIex
[21:08] <BillyZane2> CHIex: i'd probably go with Xubuntu, but i think you have to ask yourself, what desktop do you prefer
[21:08] <CHIex> which version of Xubuntu should I download?  Is extended support recommended?
[21:08] <GridCube> CHIex, also you are asking on the xubuntu channel, what answer do you hope to get?
[21:09] <GridCube> CHIex, if you care about that
[21:09] <CHIex> hheheheheh a honest one ;)
[21:09] <knome> xubuntu is the best and the team behind if are wonderful people, of course.
[21:09] <knome> *behind it
[21:09] <GridCube> CHIex, xubuntu is more stable than lubuntu but lubuntu is faster
[21:09] <David-A> CHIex: if you have 160GB, you can spare 16GB for a second distro. so install both and try both and see for yourself.
[21:10] <BillyZane2> CHIex: the honest answer is that the two of them are very similar, aside from the GUI interface. just pick the interface you think is better. LXDE is a very minimal interface so it's good if you are running a very old computer. Xubuntu is also lightweight, but I think it is much nicer
[21:10] <CHIex> you mean Xubuntu needs less restarts and crashes less?
[21:11] <sSs> i've never had any issue at all with lubuntu. but i still dont like it's "look and feel". i prefur Xubuntu (Or Ubuntu Studio)
[21:11] <David-A> CHIex: I am not aware of any differences in stability between xubuntu and lubuntu. my xubuntu is very stable thou.
[21:12] <BillyZane2> mine is not
[21:12] <CHIex> how much faster is Lubuntu?
[21:12] <David-A> CHIex: where did you read that lxde was more buggy?
[21:12] <BillyZane2> i will have to restart soon because of its instability
[21:12] <sSs> every one says its faster but i on the computers i've tried it on, i found kubuntu to run faster (that just shouldnt be)
[21:13] <CHIex> in few forums
[21:13] <David-A> CHIex: do you know how to partition a harddisk?
[21:13] <CHIex> in windows yes
[21:14] <sSs> no need. CHIex, you can try every version of ubuntu without actually installing them. the install disk runs exactly like a fully installed system
[21:14] <CHIex> Precise Pangolin  and   Quantal Quetzal  are the options to download.  what should I pick, any suggestions?
[21:15] <sSs> Precise for now.  a new version is comming out in april
[21:15] <David-A> CHIex: if you run a live cd (of any *buntu flavor or many other linuxes) you can run Gparted from it and re-partition a harddisk.
[21:15] <CHIex> dont they both have unlimited support forever?
[21:15] <sSs> no
[21:16] <CHIex> so Precise Pengolin has support for only 3 years?
[21:16] <CHIex> what happens after 3 years?
[21:16] <sSs> thats the one thats supported the longest
[21:16] <sSs> you can still run it but you wont get any official support
[21:16] <David-A> CHIex: then make room for 2 or 3 distros (at least 16GB for each) and try them all yourself.
[21:17] <CHIex> how come it wont be supported anymore?
[21:17] <CHIex> will paid support be possible?
[21:17] <sSs> David-A, he doesnt need to do that. the install disk will let him try them all without having to partition the heck out of the hard drive
[21:17] <knome> paid support isn't possible after the release is EOL (unsupported)
[21:17] <CHIex> I will manage to try it myself, no worries
[21:17] <sSs> EOL = End Of Life
[21:18] <knome> when a release is getting near it's EOL date, you are advised to upgrade
[21:18] <CHIex> so what is the difference in functionality and looks between Precise P and QQ?
[21:19] <CHIex> upgrade to what?
[21:19] <knome> upgrade to a newer version.
[21:19] <CHIex> which will be a new version?
[21:19] <David-A> CHIex: it is not worth paying for support an end-of-life system, when there are newer systems for free. (it will probably be very expensive since you would be the only customer asking for that service)
[21:19] <CHIex> can it be upgraded automatically?
[21:20] <CHIex> what options will I have for upgrade?
[21:20] <David-A> CHIex: there is an upgrade button in the update manager when new versiona are released
[21:20] <CHIex> Xubuntu will not exist anymore after 3 years?
[21:21] <CHIex> or you want to tell me there will be new version and I will have an option to update or upgrade?
[21:21] <David-A> CHIex: please look at the bottom diagram at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_releases#Table_of_versions
[21:22] <CHIex> whats the difference between PP and QQ?
[21:23] <NickRivers_> How would I configure the panel so I can move the items anywhere in the panel? (no snapping in place)
[21:23] <CHIex> so PP will work the longest, right?
[21:24] <GridCube> right clic > Panel > panel settings, last tab items
[21:24] <GridCube> move them as you please
[21:24] <GridCube> NickRivers_,
[21:24] <knome> CHIex, if you would slow down, we would be able to answer your questions
[21:24] <CHIex> well just answer, please
[21:24] <CHIex> I am very curious..
[21:24] <CHIex> :)
[21:25] <knome> CHIex, it's not fair for other users if you ask many questions and then wait for everybody to answer
[21:25] <CHIex> What happens for me after April 2017 for Precise P XUBUNTU version?
[21:26] <David-A> CHIex: did you look at the wikipedia table I linked?
[21:26] <knome> CHIex, for starters, xubuntu LTS releases are supported for 3 years, so the support will end in april 2015.
[21:26] <CHIex> I wouldn't get any updates anymore? I would then need to install new operation system/new Linux distro?
[21:26] <knome> CHIex, when a new LTS release (14.04) is available, you will be advised to upgrade to that. you can do that from your system, there's no need to reinstall
[21:27] <knome> CHIex, please slow down so we're able to answer your questions.
[21:27] <David-A> CHIex: 1) did you look at the wikipedia table I linked 5 minutes ago?
[21:28] <David-A> CHIex: 2) I told you what will happen in the update manager 7 minutes ago
[21:28] <CHIex> aha after that I will just do a simple upgrade and I will still be able to use XUBUNTU precise Penguin?
[21:28] <CHIex> 12.04 LTS    Precise Pangolin    26 April 2012[173]     April 2017[137]    3.2
[21:29] <David-A> CHIex: no. when you around year 2014 or 2015 upgrade from Xubuntu 12.04 to e.g. Xubuntu 14.04, then you will use Xubuntu 14.04.
[21:29] <knome> CHIex, as i said, xubuntu LTS releases are supported for 3 years. when you upgrade, you will then run a newer version, eg. not precise pangolin anymore
[21:30] <CHIex> aha ok
[21:30] <knome> David-A, sorry, i'll let you answer to not duplicate:)
[21:30] <CHIex> thank you
[21:30] <CHIex> I will download XUBUNTU  precise p..
[21:30] <CHIex> old computers are 32 bit, right?
[21:31] <knome> not necessarily. the 32-bit system will work on 64-bit processors too, though, so that's a safe choice
[21:31] <knome> David-A, ermm, sorry again. :)
[21:31] <David-A> CHIex: it depends. you can tell us what cpu you have. if you don't know, a 32bit system will work on both a 32bit or 64bit cpu
[21:32]  * knome goes to sit on the bench in the corner and shuts down
[21:32] <David-A> knome: no problem, sometimes you are faster :)
[21:32] <CHIex> would there be any real difference if I put 32 bit XUBUNTU and 64 bit processor?
[21:33] <sSs> some apps / drivers require 64bit
[21:33] <CHIex> I mean ON 64 bit processor..
[21:33] <David-A> CHIex: on an old computer, no real difference
[21:36] <NickRivers_> Thanks GridCube
[22:02] <xubuntu240> Hi
[22:03] <sSs> hi
[22:03] <unheeding> hello!
[22:04] <xubuntu240> im having trouble installing xubuntu from an iso image (directly from grub)... it boots fine, but the install process just keep saying "detecting file system"
[22:05] <xubuntu240> any idea about whats happening ?
[22:11] <xubuntu565> Very Noobie can't get xubuntu to install.
[22:12] <xubuntu565> I have a hp laptop and have downloaded the file
[22:13] <unheeding> hmm
[22:13] <unheeding> so where does this error happen?  is it when you are selecting the partitions?
[22:13] <xubuntu565> I have a Mac too but it won't burn the dvd
[22:13] <unheeding> do you have a usb flash drive kicking around?
[22:14] <dm_nightshade> Hi! Am using 12.04 and it's great, but I want to use fglrx for a couple of games I play that would benefit. Since my card is 6 years old, I need to install an old fglrx which is not compatible with modern X. Right now I am thinking I need to re-install with Xubuntu 8.04 Hardy. Can anyone suggest a less destructive solution? Perhaps it's safe to roll back to the X Server used in Hardy, on 12.04?
[22:14] <xubuntu565> On the mac I have a windows partition but I think I deleted windows.
[22:14] <unheeding> dm_nightshade: check and see if your card is supported under ati's legacy drivers
[22:14] <David-A> xubuntu565: what is the problem, burning the .iso, booting from the cd/dvd or installing when running the cd/dvd?
[22:15] <dm_nightshade> unheeding: Thanks, when I tried to use an old proprietary driver it said that the distro isn't supported. Some research indicated that modern versions of X conflict with old proprietary ATI releases.
[22:15] <xubuntu565> All of the above.  I have an iso on the hp windows machine in the download folder.
[22:17] <xubuntu565> I am running vista home premium
[22:18] <David-A> xubuntu565: the .iso should fit on a cd but you can burn a dvd as well. burn it as a "disk image" and not as "data files".
[22:18] <unheeding> i'm fond of using usb flash drives
[22:19] <xubuntu565> I will try that now
[22:21] <David-A> xubuntu565: there are programs to "burn" the .iso to a usb flash drive (maybe you already know this, but don't just copy the .iso onto the drive)
[22:21] <unheeding> you can also do it from the command line on your mac
[22:24] <dm_nightshade> "dd if=/path/to/your.iso of=/dev/sd* bs=4M;sync" works great
[22:27] <xubuntu565> I appreciate your help.  On my windows machine I inserted disk clicked burn and it is
[22:28] <xubuntu565> the disk now shows the folder and files
[22:29] <xubuntu565> Now how do I get it installed
[22:29] <unheeding> boot from the CD/DVD
[22:29] <unheeding> usually this will happen automagically, but you might have to change your bios settings to look for the CD first
[22:30] <xubuntu565> were I edit the bios windows vista
[22:33] <sSs> when you turn on the computer it should tell you what button to press to enter the bios setup
[22:33] <sSs> usually Del or F2 or F10
[22:33] <David-A> xubuntu565: you press a certain key when you restart the computer. to go into bios settings usually the Delete key. there is usually also a key to select boot drive, different key on different systems.
[22:34] <CHIex> How do I put ISO file on CD/DVD? iiI   choose    write IMAGE FILE TO DISC?
[22:34] <sSs> yes
[22:34] <xubuntu565> Thank you.  As Arnold says "I'll be back..."
[22:34] <unheeding> good luck!
[22:34] <dm_nightshade> He said that right before crashing... probably not a good start to a computer adventure
[22:39] <CHIex> SO how do I put XUBUNTU on cd/dvd? I choose write image file to disc?
[22:40] <sSs> yes
[22:41] <Riberty> or make a bootable 4gb usb drive
[22:50] <CHIex> now to test XUBUNTU from CD  I need to re install computer or how do I do it?
[22:51] <sSs> in the setup it will ask if you want to erase windows, install next to windows or "choose something else" (meaning you partition it yourself how you want it)
[22:51] <unheeding> CHIex: you just want to try it out?
[22:51] <CHIex> well for a start yes, like you suggested here on IRC
[22:52] <David-A> CHIex: when you boot from the cd it will ask if you want to test run it (no install, live cd) or install it.
[22:52] <CHIex> I know it can be run from CD, without install
[22:52] <CHIex> how do I boot it?
[22:52] <sSs> oh if you want to test it out you just pop it in the DVD ROM and restart the computer (if it doesnt boot from CD you gotta press f2 or del or f10 to get into the BIOS setup and change boot order so it checks CD first)
[22:52] <CHIex> aha ok thank you
[22:53] <CHIex> you are very helpful, I appreciate it
[23:36] <xubuntu291> I changed the order of boot in my bios I still cannot boot I have the iso in the download folder but don't file a option to burn as an image in Vista
[23:39] <sSs> http://www.imgburn.com/
[23:39] <xubuntu291> I donloaded that too but somany ads I can't tell what is going on.
[23:40] <sSs> ?
[23:41] <sSs> you dont have a burning app like nero or roxio? (i havent used roxio since the 90s)
[23:42] <sSs> imgburn you just slect the ISO and click the folder > CD button
[23:42] <David-A> xubuntu291: 1) you burn the .iso to a cd first (burn as disk image). 2) then you boot from that cd (which may or may not require changing boot order in bios)
[23:45] <xubuntu291> sorry guys.  I have a folder called Xubuntu 12.10 desktop i386
[23:46] <xubuntu291> in the folder are many other folders
[23:46] <sSs> sounds like you extracted the ISO
[23:46] <sSs> like it was a zip file
[23:47] <xubuntu291> I think you nailed it
[23:47] <xubuntu291> I used win RAR
[23:48] <sSs> if you have a thumbdrive you can spare this tool is super easy and works great: http://www.linuxliveusb.com/en/download
[23:48] <sSs> yeah just burn the ISO with a burning app like nero or imgburn or use a tool like lili to burn the .ISO to USB
[23:51] <sSs> how to burn an image with imgburn: http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=guides
[23:58] <xubuntu291> thanks.  dinner then back on it,  stress level subsiding thanks to this chat.
[23:59] <David-A> welcome back later then, night tea in this time zone :)