=== clay_doh is now known as claydoh [03:42] * smartboyhw says good morning to Kubuntu:P [03:42] * smartboyhw needs to start backporting calligra for good === ronnoc_ is now known as ronnoc [10:54] kubotu: newversion digikam 3.0.0 http://www.digikam.org/node/683 [10:54] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1132393 [11:43] hey [11:43] can anybody remind me please how do you get stuff from bazzar? [12:08] sheytan_: bzr branch , for launchpad url would be lp:~owner/project/branch [12:08] thank you :) [12:17] * smartboyhw says hello === highvolt1ge is now known as highvoltage [13:40] afiestas: wrt kscreen: when I attach a completely new monitor, where is it put by the auto configuration? Always on the right of the current primary screen? [14:03] Morning [14:03] Evening Darkwing [14:03] Hmmz... this is interesting... [14:04] Darkwing, *what* is interesting? [14:04] LightDM with propriatary AMD drivers [14:04] Oh [14:04] LightDM doesn't see two monitors. [14:04] So, my login is spread between both screens. [14:05] Darkwing, whoa!? [14:05] Hang on... I'll take a picture as a screen cap wont work right. :D [14:05] Darkwing, LOL [14:07] bk [14:08] http://imm.io/XfL7 [14:08] Like I said, interesting [14:08] My desk is trashed right now lol [14:09] Darkwing, lol. You have better life than me though, my login screen of Kubuntu 13.04 is just complete snowflakes (or white blocks) at the bottom part of screen [14:11] I'm on an LTS because AMD can't get their act together and update the HD6500 drivers with new kernels [14:11] *On a LTS [14:12] Plus, Android stuff doesn't like to build on the newer stuff either... It likes the LTS [14:19] Darkwing, oh [14:28] Darkwing: proprietary driver fail! [14:28] Riddell, not good [14:31] smartboyhw: so you backporting calligra? [14:32] Riddell, no I'm syncing the code for Ubuntu Touch.... [14:37] mwh [14:37] which is just unity 2d in a more tablety form? [14:37] Riddell, bascially yes [14:37] presumably they're not putting anything in the archive this cycle? [14:42] Howdy all [14:49] Riddell, dunno [15:22] Riddell, hmm suddenly I know of Project Neon... [15:26] you didn't yet? [15:26] yofel, no:P [15:26] (LOL) [15:26] ^^ [15:26] * smartboyhw only knew it by Calligra 2.6.1 annoucement on website [15:27] Great project:) [15:27] what's it got to do with Calligra 2.6.1? [15:27] Riddell, they include the Project Neon PPA in their annoucements [15:28] yeah, but why in 2.6.1 [15:28] neon has 2.7 pre-alpha [15:28] yofel, well dunno [15:28] http://www.calligra.org/news/calligra-2-6-1-released/ But they actually say it's daily snapshots [15:28] Users of Ubuntu and Kubuntu are urged to try the daily snapshots prepared by Project Neon. Paste the following in a terminal window and you’ll find Calligra installed in /opt: [15:29] probably leftover from the beta and rc's [15:29] not that it'c currently broken though from what I see [15:30] yofel, oh [15:30] * smartboyhw wonders who can join the project too:P [15:31] anyone with some knowledge about packaging and KDE, poke Quintasan [15:31] yofel, OK [15:31] * smartboyhw pokes Quintasan (LOL) [15:32] yofel, how's life? [15:32] good in general [15:33] though debugging digikam is annyoing... [15:33] oh [16:44] shadeslayer: how's the gathering? [16:44] wait what [16:44] yofel: what do people want from me now? :P [16:45] yofel: I got fingerprint scanning to work [16:45] something about smartboyhw wanting to join neon [16:45] BUT our lightdm doesn't seem to support that [16:46] but the battery live is [16:46] urgh [16:46] Unexpectedly Linux sucks at this [16:46] Quintasan: fingerprint scanning is handled at the pam level so it doesn't need the login manager to support it [16:46] it's just very hard to use without a UI [16:47] hmmm [16:47] Riddell: well, I can get sudo rights by scanning my finger but I don't get any prompt on logon [16:47] Riddell: how long does your thinkpad last when on battery? [16:48] dunno, a couple of hours maybe [16:48] like 3 or more? [16:49] mine ~4h, but please consider battery size and hardware [16:49] if I don't do much I can get 6h out of it, but that's pretty much only having vim open or so ^^ [16:51] Quintasan: yes I'd think 3 hours is very common, but I've not timed it as I say [16:51] Quintasan: how large is your batter anyway? (Wh as told by upower --dump) [16:51] * Riddell out [16:51] *battery [16:52] energy-full: 56.87 Wh [16:52] that should give you ~3-4h on current hardware I think [16:52] oh [16:53] I see [16:53] feel free to play around with powertop [16:53] I kind of expected that [16:53] but [16:53] well [16:53] it's kind of disappointing :P [16:53] powertop? [16:53] intel power measurement tool, tells you how much power you use and what uses it [16:54] oh [16:55] /usr/bin/ktorrent [16:55] well [16:55] that's kind of expcted [16:55] hi [16:56] hello [17:13] wow, archive.ubuntu.com is totally overloaded today [17:43] Riddell: exhausted [17:47] shadeslayer: hard work these kde conferences [17:47] yus [17:47] dem kde conferences [17:48] even more hard work are KDE India conf's [17:48] this thinkpad [17:48] because, resource constraints etc [17:52] Quintasan: project neon help wanted in #kde-devel [17:52] http://paste.kde.org/679880/ [17:57] hmm [17:57] people from the kde-meetup :) [18:16] hello everyone [18:18] hi murthy [18:18] Riddell: hi [18:20] apachelogger: pingy [18:26] a sponsor has pointed out to some lintian warnings which my local lintian is not showing, what wrong with my lintian. here is the log given by the sponsor http://paste.ubuntu.com/5557229/ [18:36] murthy: that's what you get by running lintian on the finished binary packages [18:37] running it on the changes file pbuilder produces would work [18:37] yofel: the man pages of lintian says, the infos are suppressed by default [18:38] yofel: i have to use the "I" option to display those [18:38] yofel: where is the lintian config file? [18:38] dunno, but you only need to fix the warnings from there (except the standards version stuff) [18:39] too long lines and spelling errors it seems [18:39] yofel: that didn't show up in the test build i did before creating the debdiff [18:40] yofel: does an outdated lintian might be the problem? [18:40] I don't think so... [18:40] yofel: what is the current version [18:40] m4v: ok [18:40] oops [18:40] !info lintian raring [18:40] yofel: ^ [18:41] lintian (source: lintian): Debian package checker. In component main, is optional. Version 2.5.11ubuntu1 (raring), package size 551 kB, installed size 2292 kB [18:41] N: Processing binary package libdlna-dev (version 0.2.4-0ubuntu1, arch amd64) ... [18:41] he did a lintian check on the finished binary packe [18:41] *package [18:41] the latest version is installed [18:42] I wonder why lintian doesn't show description warnings for the source though... [18:42] yofel: so i have to add this to my developement workflow? [18:42] you and me [18:43] hm... I'll write a pbuilder hook for that [18:44] yofel: what about setting it here /etc/lintianrc ? [18:44] yofel: "verbose = yes" this option ? [18:44] can you enable those warnings for sources? [18:45] I'm not talking about the N: or I: stuff [18:45] you don't need that [18:45] yofel: oh ok [18:45] but feel free to enable it anyway on your system [18:46] yofel: so when i run lintian on a change file with out any options, it will display the warnings as given by the sponsor? [18:47] I don't know [18:47] I usually don't care much about lintian until it complains by itself [18:50] yofel: i just ran lintian with the changes file and it doesn't show the warning mentioned in the sponsor's log [18:50] ok, now build the package and run it on the binary changes file [18:51] i.e. .changes, not source.changes [18:52] yofel: dpkg-buildpackage -b ? [18:52] yes [18:55] yofel: warnings in sponsor's log shows up [18:57] yofel: if i do a dpkg-buildpackage, the deps get installed in my system? [18:58] no [18:58] yofel: so it uses pbuilder? [18:58] it'll fail if something's missing though with -b [18:59] yofel: missing what's mentioned in build-depends ? [18:59] yes [18:59] yofel: in that case whats the point in using pbuilder? [18:59] yofel: right [18:59] yofel: about the pbuilder hook' [19:00] yofel: so the hook will do this right? === ronnoc_ is now known as ronnoc [19:00] the point of using pbuilder is knowing whether something's missing from the build-depends [19:00] yeah, it will, but I won't run it with -Iiv as he did [19:00] yofel: i didn't use that options [19:01] yofel: its verbose attached with description that we don't need [19:02] yofel: Can haz 4.9.5? [19:02] * yofel knew he forgot something [19:02] I'll get to it shortly [19:02] ;-) [19:03] Thanks. [19:08] yofel: so now the bug status is changed to fix released, do i have to submit the corrected changes now or i have to implement the changes in the next version of the app? [19:09] murthy: latter, it got uploaded https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libdlna/0.2.4-0ubuntu1 [19:10] yofel: ok [19:15] yofel: on the other day i referred the text of a license and you said it is BSD-3 , did you google it or you know from memory? [19:16] from memory as the bsd variants are rather popular. The DEP-5 documentation has links to the license texts at the bottom that you can look at [19:18] yofel: ok [19:19] yofel: its a fresh copyright file [19:20] what do you mean? [19:22] yofel: nm, i am confused a bit [19:24] yofel: files * is gpl-3+ and debian/* is also gpl-3+ . the debian/* is mentioned with a seperate block, shall i merge them? [19:25] nah, it's common to have a seperate block for the packaging even if the license is the same in most cases [19:25] yofel: ok [19:25] B09lintian added [19:26] whats that? [19:27] the hook [19:27] yofel: how can i get that? [19:27] update your checkout of the hooks [19:27] yofel: how? [19:28] uhm... if you just used bzr, go to the hookdir and run bzr pull :parent [19:29] yofel: i added the pbuilder hooks to the pbuilderrc that you gave me as text [19:29] murthy: sure, and where did you put them? [19:30] yofel: etc/pbuilderrc [19:30] not that, where are the hooks? [19:30] i.e. what's HOOKDIR set to? [19:30] yofel: home [19:31] probably not [19:31] yofel: $HOME/.pbuilder-hooks [19:31] right, so go to ~/.pbuilder-hooks and update your checkout [19:32] yofel: "bzr: ERROR: No parent location assigned." [19:33] hm, try 'bzr up' [19:33] yofel: worked [19:33] yofel: got B09lintian [19:34] yofel: so this will get the lintian warning after the build&clean step in pbuilder? [19:35] after build [19:35] yofel: before clean and b10list-missing? [19:35] after build before list-missing [19:35] yofel: i think i am wrong [19:35] yofel: ok [19:36] yofel: so it wont be invoked if the build fails right? [19:37] * yofel reads manpage [19:37] murthy: right [19:37] B

is executed after build system finishes building, successfully, before copying back the build result. [19:37] yofel: ok [19:44] yofel: lintian hooks are updated during an upgrade? [19:47] nope [20:01] I REALLY wonder [20:01] why I can't unlock my seession after wakeup [20:02] blame new screenlocker [20:02] or does it not work at all? [20:02] * yofel needs a Vcs-Bzr sanitizer in kubuntu-automation [20:05] yofel: I input my password, press unlock [20:05] and nothing happens [20:05] bad [20:06] WTF [20:06] wtf is going on with this laptop [20:07] Quintasan: does *something* happen? (i.e. bad password warning or so?) [20:07] Sleep-wakeup cycle works here OK, just tried it [20:07] yofel: NO [20:07] sorry [20:07] nothing at all [20:07] yofel: the screen locker works for me [20:07] I press unlock, the button gets pushed but nothing happens after that [20:07] Quintasan: you do see that you're inputting characters? === clay_doh is now known as claydoh [20:08] yeah [20:08] murthy: for me too... [20:11] Quintasan: what will happen if you delete ~.Xauthority file? [20:11] I restarted it [20:11] I'll try trigerring it again [20:13] bumblebee 0/10 [20:13] doesn't work [20:13] sigh [20:44] christ [20:44] I'll try with the nvida blob [20:44] if it doesnt work then I'll probablu disable it for now [20:46] nouveau ~worked~ here, but the displayport doesn't work [20:46] the blobs power management is better too [20:47] * shadeslayer hit fun PA bugs [20:47] bug 1129990 and bug 1127872 [20:47] I'm currently just using -experimental-310 [20:47] bug 1129990 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "Sound no longer works unless you kill it each time for each application" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1129990 [20:47] bug 1129990 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1127872 Sound no longer works unless you kill it each time for each application" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1129990 [20:47] ehh [20:48] yeah, nvidia-310 here too [20:48] shadeslayer: that's supposed to be fixed? [20:48] yofel: Can I turn off the card using bumblebee? [20:48] had to kill it today [20:48] yofel: yes [20:48] well, let's see [20:48] yeah [20:48] I'd just use it to switch off the card with solid xD [20:48] * shadeslayer is upgrading [20:48] Quintasan: can't say, my hardware's too old for that ^^ [20:49] I sometimes really hate how Linux works [20:49] well, we are the believers of forced-freedom [20:49] though I'm partly a heretic by that definition [20:50] some things just don't work [20:51] I had a fun time when I discovered that I had accidentally removed all my kernels on the flight -.0 [20:51] and now it's can't load the $#$@#$#% driver [20:51] christ [20:51] what's wrong with this [20:51] shadeslayer: So you copied vmlinuz etc off some livecd/usb ? [20:51] heh no [20:52] luksOpen > mount using lvm > chroot and install kernels > unmount > luksClose [20:53] genii-around: re: uh ... my system just asked me to upgrade to 13.04. I installed my own kde desktop from the mini.iso. I have had only quantal in my souces.list for some time. [20:53] genii-around: what was the fix? [20:53] oor why did that happen? [20:55] shadeslayer: He crossposted in #ubuntu, where he was told that this is normal for some reason... I didn't check the backscroll to investigate...although I think someone told him to file a bug report also [20:55] I see [20:55] I asked because this was on Kubuntu Devel earlier ( and then forwarded to Ubuntu Devel ) [20:56] He did some nonstandard install from a mini iso [20:57] sooo... let's see what we have for 4.9.5 [20:57] YES [20:57] IT WORKED [20:58] btw people @ Conf had issues when they upgraded 4.10 + 12.04 to 12.10 + 4.10 [20:58] specifically, one was regarding libtag [20:58] shadeslayer: worked here - except digikam breaking [20:58] now [20:58] which I hope will work once I backport 3.0.0 [20:58] I wonder how does one actually do anything with that optirun [20:58] yofel: try installing libtag-dev once you upgrade? [20:59] lemme dig out the vbox snapshot [21:00] IIRC libtag1-dev is 1.8-1 in 12.04 + 4.10 and then once you upgrade there is only 1.8-0ubuntusomething [21:01] and if you have the tag libs stuff installed from the backports PPA, and then try installing the -dev, there's a version mismatch because the -dev depends on 1.8-0 but 1.8-1 is installed [21:01] wat [21:01] yofel: it has a sim card slot under the batter [21:01] lololol [21:01] heh [21:01] how do I configure this [21:01] Quintasan: standard feature [21:02] I BET IT WILL NOT WORK OUT OF BOX [21:02] it needs to have the radio as well [21:02] and unless you added that, the radio is probably not there [21:02] My XPS M1530 had the same slot, except no radio was actually connected [21:02] so it was just a slot :P [21:03] * yofel would rather have a 56k modem driver [21:04] shadeslayer: how do I check if there is a radio? [21:04] Quintasan: did you ask for one to be installed? [21:05] dunno [21:05] it cost a lot of monies so I'm inclined to say there is one [21:05] er [21:05] okay [21:05] would lspci list it? [21:05] * shadeslayer is not sure [21:05] You can get a fairly cheap card like one of those Gobi2000 or such [21:06] Yes, lspci [21:06] anyway, I have to sleep, haven't slept at all in the last 2 days [21:06] good night [21:06] night :) [21:10] Good evening :) [21:10] ehh [21:10] lordievader: hello [21:10] Hey Quintasan, how are you? [21:11] good I guess [21:11] genii-around: seems like there isn't one :< [21:11] I'll have to get one then I guess [21:12] Quintasan: can't you use your phone? [21:12] thing is [21:12] I have 1GB plan on my phone [21:12] Quintasan: I have one of those Gobi 2000 I mentioned earlier, they have reasonable linux support [21:13] and getting another card would be cheaper than extending the plan? [21:13] and I have a second sim card from Aero2 which is testing free internet service in Poland and they give 70GB/month for free [21:13] oh [21:13] ok [21:13] yeah, you pay once for the card [21:13] and do whatever the hell you want [21:13] if you exceed the quota your connection gets downgraded or disabled [21:13] don't remember what is it [21:13] but I don't care :P [21:14] now how do I switch off cards [21:14] hmm [21:14] bt/wifi? rfkill [21:14] gpu i mean [21:14] ah, dunno [21:14] I don't really want to have the nvidia one on all the time [21:14] :P [21:15] *sigh*, the whole gpu switching thing would totally work without KMS [21:17] wait [21:17] it got turned off autmagically aparrently [21:17] but lspci still lists it [21:17] well [21:18] ok [21:18] ok [21:18] I'm so okay with this [21:18] NOW I CAN PLAY TEAM FORTRESS [21:18] * yofel would like to have an actually performant opengl stack too [21:18] MUAHAHAHAHA [21:18] but now I ask too much I guess [21:19] use windows [21:19] no matter how much I hate it [21:19] yeah, I know -.- [21:19] it actually works good when you want to play games [21:19] that's why I try to use nvidia when I can. The blob's evil, but it works [21:19] I sometimes get the idea one should make a plenty of $$$ [21:20] Hire the best gpu people to write a decent windows server and pay them more monies to do drivers [21:20] hell [21:20] if they don't provide docs [21:20] then do the same thing as they did in ReactOS [21:21] what was it called [21:21] clean room reverse engineering? [21:21] the nouveau folks already do that [21:21] and tell me 3d works [21:22] actually I managed to play Half Life on nouveau [21:22] 3d works - mesa just sucks [21:22] what the hell is wrong with mesa there [21:22] maybe fix this first before doing anything? [21:22] it's like they try to insert a nice gpu to a pc with pentium 4 [21:23] if core is bad the the whole tree won't last long [21:23] well, not sure what's *wrong* with mesa, but if my card with nouveau performs about the same as my work notebook with intel (which works better in windows) then I tend to blame the common factor [21:23] more like root* [21:24] apachelogger: tomahawk v0.6.0, file src/libtomahawk/thirdparty/Qocoa/qtoolbartabdialog.cpp missing copyright [21:27] sheytan: yes? [21:27] murthy: apachelogger: thanks, will fix [21:27] apachelogger: did you see ldm stuff from yesterday? [21:27] nope [21:28] anyone got a good movie rcommendation? [21:29] apachelogger: new or old? [21:29] apachelogger: I just saw Life of Pi and thought it was pretty good [21:31] genii-around: yeah, very nice, already saw it though :) [21:31] murthy: doesn't matter [21:31] apachelogger: Malizia [21:31] murthy: apachelogger: done [21:32] apachelogger: nice [21:32] apachelogger: atame [21:33] apachelogger: http://wstaw.org/m/2013/02/23/login2-no-bg2.png [21:34] i can't get agateau to ping [21:34] and this sucks :D [21:35] sheytan: who did this http://wstaw.org/m/2013/02/23/login2-no-bg2.png [21:35]