[00:42] <bjh_> Hi, I am playing around with an old compaq deskpro EN and the Lubuntu 12.10 LIVE CD. Am I expecting too much of the LIVE CD to be able to load and run VNC-SERVER ? Installation thru the package manager doesnt seem to work. Thanks,
[00:56] <normanclegg> bjh_  livecd only uses ram
[01:08] <bjh_> "livecd only uses ram" Yes, this is the conclusion I am coming to.
[01:14] <phillw> bjh_: well, it try to use  a linux swap area if there is one set up.
[01:21] <Wolfgang__> I just installed lubuntu and im wondering where the appstore thing is?
[01:22] <phillw> Wolfgang__: it is not installed by default. It is a part ubuntu suite. It would require a lot of extra things to be installed into your lubuntu system.
[01:23] <Wolfgang__> oh ok nvm then
[01:23] <Wolfgang__> So is there an equivalent?
[01:24] <normanclegg> Wolfgang__ you mean like a repository of ready to install and run programs?
[01:24] <Wolfgang__> Yes
[01:24] <Wolfgang__> Terminal?
[01:24] <phillw> Wolfgang__: the process of it can be follwed at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Software_Center
[01:25] <Wolfgang__> ok
[01:25] <Wolfgang__> Um, do i want tar.gz, rpm, or yum?
[01:25] <cerebrate> can you set new quicklaunch icons in the taskbar on lxde?
[01:25] <phillw> currently the lubuntu software center is on hold, due to a lack of people able to take it forward (knowledge of python required).
[01:26] <cerebrate> :C
[01:26] <phillw> Wolfgang__: from terminal, you would use apt-get
[01:26] <Wolfgang__> Ok but rpm tar.gz or yum
[01:26] <Wolfgang__> I know
[01:26] <Wolfgang__> Im getting flashplayer
[01:26] <normanclegg> Wolfgang__  i'd think .deb
[01:27] <phillw> Wolfgang__: you can try a tool called alien https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RPM/AlienHowto
[01:27] <normanclegg> installing software in ubuntu https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware
[01:28] <phillw> but, it is not guaranteed to work. You're better hunting down the .deb version and using Gdebi, which is included in lubuntu
[01:28] <Wolfgang__> sudo apt-get flashplayer?
[01:28] <phillw> Wolfgang__: I'm guessing you want the non-free version of flash?
[01:28] <Wolfgang__> Free
[01:28] <Wolfgang__> Is it automaticly installed?
[01:28] <phillw> Wolfgang__: you already have the free version.
[01:28] <Wolfgang__> Oh ok
[01:29] <Wolfgang__> thank you
[01:29] <Wolfgang__> what about java?
[01:29] <phillw> if you want the non-free, then you need to install the restricted extras.
[01:29] <Wolfgang__> OK is the free java there yet?
[01:29] <Wolfgang__> Or do i need to install?
[01:29] <phillw> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[01:30] <Wolfgang__> Im not looking for that
[01:30] <Wolfgang__> Is java automaticly there or not?
[01:31] <phillw> there is open source java interpreter installed. You would need to install the restricted ones for fuller functionallity.
[01:31] <normanclegg> Wolfgang__   no but open the package manager and choose it and install it.
[01:31] <Wolfgang__> Where is package manager?
[01:32] <cerebrate> i can find it by pressing the button in the lower right corner, then selecting settings, then selecting something from there that says package in it Wolfgang__
[01:32] <cerebrate> *LEFT CORNER
[01:32] <cerebrate> sorry
[01:32] <normanclegg> synaptic
[01:33] <phillw> Synaptic Package Manager is the default for lubuntu. Please bear in mind that running free and non-free versions will cause conflicts (crashes). That is why using the -restricted-extras is advised, as it removes those conflicts.
[01:33] <Wolfgang__> sun java right?
[01:34] <Wolfgang__> I only want the free version!
[01:34] <normanclegg> Wolfgang__   yeah, but most people don't need sun java runtimes anymore
[01:34] <phillw> Wolfgang__: on that page I pointed you to, it has the details on each of the things you are discussing. And, to repeat, you already have the free versions.
[01:34] <Wolfgang__> Wich java do i get then?
[01:35] <Wolfgang__> Of java?
[01:35] <Wolfgang__> I have free java??
[01:35] <normanclegg> Wolfgang__  google  for  "test java"  and see if it works.
[01:35] <Wolfgang__> ok
[01:36] <Wolfgang__> I dont have ut
[01:36] <Wolfgang__> it
[01:36] <phillw> Wolfgang__: you may need to add in some extra stuff for the openjdk, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[01:36] <phillw> has the details, which is pointed to via the page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[01:39] <Wolfgang__> Openjdk-6-jre?
[01:39] <Wolfgang__> is that the right one?
[01:40] <Wolfgang__> Yes or no?
[01:41] <phillw> Wolfgang__: I don't use Java, so I cannot advise.
[01:41] <phillw> http://ubuntuforums.org/tags.php?tag=java
[01:42] <phillw> will give you a list of recent discussions on the forum about Java and hopefully somewhere to ask.
[01:42] <Wolfgang__> Its the right one i read it finally
[01:42] <Wolfgang__> Thank you for your help
[01:43] <phillw> glad you got there :D
[03:44] <NathanWW> best way to setup and install lubuntu on a panasonic toughbook cf-28 P3 600mhz, 384mb ram,
[03:45] <phillw> NathanWW: start with alternate iso,
[03:48] <NathanWW> thanks
[03:50] <phillw> P III seems to able to handle 12.04  384 Mb seems also seems to be able to run in 384, as the earlier ones would run in 256 Mb. I'm only saying that from mentions on testing chat and what people have found to be acceptable.
[03:51] <phillw> NathanWW: you may have issues with chromium, there is a lower resource browser available. But it is by default not as resource hungry.
[06:04] <NathanWW> so i installed the alt install version on a toughbook laptop, it boots up i see the lubuntu boot splash and then nothing cant ctrl + alt + f1 to get a terminal nothing power off and reboot back up and it does it again. since the installer finished and it rebooted... i think i may have issue with resolution set wrong perhaps, but how can i edit the boot loader so it does not load X so i can go
[06:04] <NathanWW> and check configs ect?
[06:40] <cerebrate> how do i switch to cli ui
[06:51] <phillw> cerebrate: cli to ui?
[06:52] <phillw> Menu --> Accessories --> Terminal
[06:56] <NathanWW> so i installed the alt install version on a toughbook laptop, it boots up i see the lubuntu boot splash and then nothing cant ctrl + alt + f1 to get a terminal nothing power off and reboot back up and it does it again. since the installer finished and it rebooted... i think i may have issue with resolution set wrong perhaps, but how can i edit the boot loader so it does not load X so i can go
[06:56] <NathanWW> and check configs ect?
[06:56] <cerebrate> ty
[06:56] <cerebrate> what about hotkeying or quicklaunching certain commands
[07:00] <phillw> NathanWW: cerebrate I am not on my lubuntu system. Can I suggest that you both / one of you head over to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ
[07:01] <cerebrate> y thank u
[07:02] <phillw> it has answers to both, you just need to look through the information. Please do not ask multiple times.
[07:02] <phillw> !ask
[07:02] <phillw> !duplicate
[07:03] <phillw> !Repeat | NathanWW
[07:03] <phillw> !Repeat | cerebrate
[07:04] <cerebrate> i had a mutated 'repeat' actually >.>
[07:04] <cerebrate> who cares XD
[07:04] <cerebrate> love wastin mah time here phil
[07:05] <cerebrate> <3 @ yall
[07:05] <phillw> cerebrate: we are all volunteers, please do not abuse us.
[07:06] <cerebrate> yeah no problem no trouble at all i guess
[07:06] <phillw> !topic
[07:35] <cerebrate> i tried using all those docs but i really need someone to hold my hand during this exploration of lubuntu
[07:35] <cerebrate> i know we tight on resource
[09:27] <jared_> cerebrate: if the online materials aren't enough you might want to try to contact someone from your loco who can provide further assistance - http://loco.ubuntu.com/
[11:09] <browser703> hello
[11:11] <browser703> so do we write here ?
[11:56] <crackerjackz> hello
[11:58] <crackerjackz> i was wondering what encryption algoryhtm lubuntu uses and does it encrypt the entire hard drive? is the swap encrypted? when you first install lubuntu it gives you the option to encrypt the hard drive
[14:18] <phillw> crackerjackz: have a read of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory
[14:25] <crackerjackz> phillw, i never had to go through any of that when i set it up.. when i installed lubuntu it gave me the option to encrypt the home directory or encrypt the hard drive i chose to encrypt the hard drive and it just did it all for me automatically.. when i boot the computer i have to enter a password then once it boots i have to entter the password for my login.. so the entire hard drive is encrypted right?
[16:18] <dorohoro> can someone recomend debian based distribution for computer with low hard disk space about 4G
[16:19] <cerebrate> pussylinux or puppylinux, info potentially available from #puppylinux
[16:19] <cerebrate> beta
[16:19] <dorohoro> ok
[16:20] <dorohoro> txh
[16:20] <cerebrate> they'll take work
[16:20] <cerebrate> to work
[16:20] <cerebrate> but they work
[16:20] <cerebrate> if they work
[16:24] <dorohoro> thats no problem
[16:24] <dorohoro> i will make it work :)
[16:24] <cerebrate> alright
[16:24] <cerebrate> ask for the ubuntu based distro i think
[16:24] <cerebrate> oh wow
[18:34] <alen_> d
[18:41] <cerebrate> hi jared
[18:43] <jared1990> hi anyone know the work arounds of lubuntu black screen first boot?
[18:47] <genii-around> !nomodeset
[18:58] <jared1990> thanks... i just did the nomodeset and the lubuntu loading screen appear. but it got stuck to it. does not load whatsoever
[19:46] <theixle> I'm using the lxde right-click menu (I think). I want to edit it. Where is that config file?
[20:23] <Vivekananda> hey everyone
[20:23] <Vivekananda> anyone around ?
[20:23] <Vivekananda> How do I get a minimalistic theme for ubuntu?
[20:23] <Vivekananda> lubuntu I mean
[20:30] <SilverLion> good evening ... please specify "minimalistic theme... lubuntu is already "light"
[20:32] <theixle> Wouldn't that be in the openbox settings?
[20:35] <Vivekananda> SilverLion: Hello and thanks for the greeting. Holstein helped out quite a bit very thankful to him. So I just started testing out lubuntu and
[20:36] <SilverLion> Vivekananda: to be honest: I have been through every *buntu distro available
[20:37] <Vivekananda> being a gnome user, its limitations. I have a couple of issues in here that I am hoping to iron out. A little bit of bacground. My system was lucid very old centrino dual core 800-1.6 ghz with radeon rv250 graphics
[20:37] <SilverLion> and the basic setting of Lubuntu is the best ... but that depends on the personal preference
[20:38] <Vivekananda> now everything in here ( lubuntu ) is fast and I like it. kupfer is doing itjob and helping out but I am missing out on somethings.I will enumerate the issues plus the preferences ( not necessarily Isuues ) I have
[20:38] <SilverLion> looking at your specs you might want to have a look at Xubuntu
[20:39] <Vivekananda> but X is heavier than L. I need fast and easy to access and I heard L is the fastest of ubuntus
[20:40] <phiscribe> i think l is faster than x. i find you can speed up lubuntu by turning off some of the window animations
[20:41] <Vivekananda> phiscribe: how do I do that ?
[20:42] <Vivekananda> I am fine with no animations but I want my videos to play fast and well
[20:44] <phiscribe> its the iconify and minmize anitmations im talking about its in a pref file, let me look around a sec
[20:45] <phiscribe> its  ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml  open with sudo in an editor, find  <animateIconify>yes</animateIconify>  change to  <animateIconify>no</animateIconify>
[20:46] <Vivekananda> already done and it is already off !! :)
[20:46] <phiscribe> ah
[20:47] <Vivekananda> Let me begin by saying that this system not 6 days ago was decently fast on Lucid. I was expecting it to be faster on lubuntu 12.04 and it is that to an extent but some glitches which I would like to iron out
[20:48] <cerebrate> i wanted to contribute to lubuntu too :D
[20:48] <phiscribe> i went to 12.10 awhile back
[20:48] <cerebrate> but learning how to get by with unix would do just as well for my aspirations
[20:48] <Vivekananda> as I said above there are some issues ( to remedy) and there are some preferences( not necessarily issues and I can live without if absolutely necessary)
[20:48] <Vivekananda> so here I am
[20:49] <Vivekananda> issue1-- The mplayer playback is like in slow motion . havent tried vlc. Online playback is ok for flash. One thing I love is that I am able to open like 12 tabs in chromium and everything is running smooth. I love that. Could not do that in Lucid.
[20:49] <phiscribe> 12.10 gives more recent apps in the repo like gimp 2.8 ect. thats why i switched
[20:49] <Vivekananda> There is one big problem though. The moment I start using a google talk plugin then it starts , by itself, using 50 60 percent cpu cycles !!!
[20:50] <Vivekananda> that just kills everything down and bring thingss to a standstill !!
[20:50] <phiscribe> dunno about that. might be just intrinsicaly heavy
[20:51] <Vivekananda> phiscribe: No such problem in lucid. I must also tell you that lubuntu is a clean install whereas the lucid I had was not only heavier( as gnome is ) but also 3 yrs old !!
[20:51] <Vivekananda> with all garbage from before it ( from ubuntu 9.10 too!! on the same partition)
[20:51] <phiscribe> dunno then, dont use google talk much
[20:52] <Vivekananda> still It did not gimme that issue so I am guessing it is nt the hardware but some tweaking that I am using
[20:52] <Vivekananda> ok no problem
[20:52] <Vivekananda> Can anyone here help me wiht the graphics criver issues I mentioned above exp slow playback of video on mplayer ?
[20:53] <Vivekananda> Also a preference is I want to get a compact theme ( meaning very narrow borders or even no borders but some way of maximizing minimizing windows. Right now it looks like half of the window is just the status line of the browser!!
[20:56] <phiscribe> as far as video drivers go, i just hope for luck.  and for themes one of them under the open box configuraton should do, you can download and install others
[20:58] <Vivekananda> phiscribe: any way of reducing / deleting window status line / borders ?
[20:58] <phiscribe> changing the theme is all that comes to mind
[20:59] <phiscribe> could be others, i dont tweak that stuff much
[21:00] <phiscribe> there is also #lxde
[21:08] <divx118> Hmm this should be something obvious, but where is/are the file(s) located for defining a shortcut next to the chrome browser and the filemanager on lxpanel.
[21:09] <divx118> I want to add an extra icon to start my on screen keyboard.
[21:10] <cerebrate> mmm, i right click the panel, choose panel options... hold on a sec
[21:10] <cerebrate> panel settings for me
[21:10] <cerebrate> select the applets tab
[21:11] <cerebrate> select the application launcher from the list...
[21:11] <cerebrate> hit edit and the rest should flow intuitively i guess :7
[21:14] <divx118> Cerebrate: yes, but the problem is that I still have to fix my right click and I want to have it present on first start of my lubuntu arm image. I am working on a touchscreen only arm device. Archos A101IT
[21:14] <cerebrate> oh wow
[21:14] <cerebrate> i dont know much about that
[21:15] <cerebrate> sorry
[21:15]  * cerebrate r's the friendly manual ^^;
[21:17] <theixle> I'm still wondering how to tweak the lxde right-click on desktop menu. Anyone familiar?
[21:24] <phiscribe> im not 100% sure but i think you can only tell lxde to handle right click or change it to allow the window manager to handle right click.  i think this is hard coded.
[21:27] <theixle> I know you can modify the openbox menu with obmenu, but I like the lxde one better but can't figure out how to edit it.
[21:34] <phiscribe> under Desktop Prefrences Advanced tab is the option to have the windows manger control right click, if that helps.
[21:34] <phiscribe> maybe if you can get the right thing controling it you can find a way to edit
[21:34] <theixle> Yeah, that's how I got the lxde menu vs the openbox menu. Now just gotta find the config file for it.
[21:40] <divx118> Found my solution in /usr/share/lxpanel/profile/Lubuntu/panels/panel :)
[21:41] <lesshaste> how do you change the default word processor to libreoffice in lubuntu?
[21:41] <lesshaste> something like http://dwmallisk.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/setting-libreoffice-writer-as-default.html but for lubuntu#
[21:42] <lesshaste> do I really have to uninstall abiword?
[21:43] <SilverLion> lesshaste: honestly i did uninstall and installed libreoffice. way better
[21:45] <Vivekananda> hey everyone I have firefox 19 with two profiles
[21:45] <Vivekananda> Something went wrong with the default and the adblock plugin stopped working. I am guessing I changed file permissions somewehere .
[21:46] <phillw> Vivekananda: did you try to run firefox from the command line?
[21:46] <Vivekananda> The created another profile and now it is not allowing the classic compact plugin to wwork
[21:46] <Vivekananda> phillw: It gives me The owner of /home/varun/.config/ibus/bus is not varun!
[21:47] <phillw> doing that as sudo, or as # will break permissions.
[21:47] <Vivekananda> phillw: I guess it did break them
[21:47] <phillw> Vivekananda: who is the owner?
[21:47] <Vivekananda> perhaps the root.
[21:47] <phillw> Vivekananda: give me a minute, I'll get you the link up
[21:47] <Vivekananda> there is just one user for the comp ( me )
[21:48] <phillw> Vivekananda: head over to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#Firefox_problems
[21:48] <Vivekananda> also phillw help me trouble shoot the graphics card too ?
[21:50] <phillw> graphics cards are funny beasts. I'd suggest heading to http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=334 and read the 2nd sticky on mulitmedia & video howto
[21:50] <Vivekananda> I am there now. What am I looking for ?
[21:50] <Vivekananda> for firefox I mean ?
[21:51] <phillw> Vivekananda: look through the list of problems that are listed on the area it links to and then follow what it says to correct it.
[21:51] <Vivekananda> Also is there a way to sync firefox bookmarks across profiles and computers ?
[21:54] <phillw> Vivekananda: have read through the excellent write up that is available via the FAQ link I posted up.
[21:57] <Vivekananda> Thanks I will look into both. I guess will have to sit down and read so will have to take out sometime for it . :)
[23:14] <nicfer> hello
[23:14] <nicfer> I'm having issues trying to install lubuntu
[23:14] <nicfer> in the 'select and install components', I get a red screen telling me there's a problem
[23:15] <nicfer> I Ctrl-F4, and then I saw lots of apt dependency errors
[23:18] <nicfer> I tried to continue installation, grub was setup, but after rebooting and ejecting the usb drive I get stuck on a black screen
[23:31] <Myrtti> nicfer: are you trying to install from a CD or USB? and how did you download the image?
[23:32] <nicfer> from usb
[23:32] <nicfer> I downloaded it from the lubuntu site
[23:33] <nicfer> and created it with linux live usb creator
[23:33] <Myrtti> did you check the md5sum matched before you created the USB?
[23:41] <nicfer> I downloaded it two times, with both isos still the same problem...
[23:43] <nicfer> the pc I'm trying to install on has 256MB RAM, can that cripple me somehow?
[23:43] <nicfer> I'm using the alternate installer
[23:56] <lighta> hi here, I'm looking to completly disable screensaver on lxde any link ? or cli prefered ?