| captine | Hi all. My 12.04.2 locks up from time to time. I am thinking of trying a newer kernel from the kernel ppa, but believe this is not officially supported. i have a question regarding what is in the "extra" kernel package? is this the right place to ask? | 03:37 |
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| captine | question really is what is in the linux-image-extra-3.7.8-030708-generic_3.7.8-030708.201302141605_amd64.deb that is considered "extra"... which one should i rather use. the kernel without the "extra" | 03:37 |
| hyper_ch | howdy, I have serious issues with 3.8.0-7 kernel.... it makes my network freeze when using samba | 10:13 |
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| BluesKaj | Howdy all | 14:42 |
| penguin42 | Hey BK | 14:44 |
| BluesKaj | hi penguin42 | 14:47 |
| hyper_ch | hi BluesKaj | 14:49 |
| BluesKaj | hi hyper_ch | 14:51 |
| hyper_ch | kernel 3.8 doesn't like cifs | 14:52 |
| penguin42 | hyper_ch: What exactly are you seeing? | 14:52 |
| hyper_ch | penguin42: http://images.sjau.ch/img/ee9273cb.jpg | 14:54 |
| hyper_ch | blocks all network, recoverable only be reboot | 14:54 |
| hyper_ch | using quantal kernel now on raring :) | 14:55 |
| penguin42 | hyper_ch: Please make sure you report that | 14:55 |
| penguin42 | hyper_ch: That looks like a couple of separate problems; iommu stuff shouldn't be protocol dependent | 14:55 |
| hyper_ch | well, when using scp, ftp, rsync no problems... just with cifs as far as I've seen | 14:56 |
| penguin42 | hyper_ch: Yeh, it's odd though; please report it | 14:56 |
| penguin42 | hyper_ch: What's the 1st error you see in the logs? | 14:57 |
| hyper_ch | penguin42: no idea | 14:57 |
| penguin42 | hyper_ch: I see the no writeable handles there 1st; it almost looks like a memory leak | 14:57 |
| hyper_ch | penguin42: I did add here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/856496 | 14:57 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 856496 in linux (Ubuntu) "DMA: Out of SW-IOMMU space on 8GB RAM Intel Mobile 4 Series Chipset Laptop due to wired ethernet (jme)" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 14:57 |
| hyper_ch | but not sure if I shouldn't split it somewhere else | 14:57 |
| penguin42 | hyper_ch: you should to do it as a separate bug | 15:01 |
| penguin42 | generally kernel bugs should be kept separate | 15:01 |
| hyper_ch | penguin42: it sounded the same | 15:02 |
| penguin42 | hyper_ch: Yeh, for kernel ones it's best to leave it to the devs to figure out if it is; there can be weird interactions | 15:02 |
| penguin42 | hyper_ch: And if you're only seeing it on cifs that's interesting on it's own | 15:02 |
| hyper_ch | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1132477 | 15:08 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1132477 in linux (Ubuntu) "DMA: Out of SW-IOMMU space for xx bytes at device" [Undecided,New] | 15:08 |
| penguin42 | how did you report that? Unfortunately it's not got any of the logs | 15:09 |
| hyper_ch | what logs? | 15:09 |
| hyper_ch | I just filled in the form | 15:10 |
| penguin42 | yeh, it's better to use ubuntu-bug to report stuff | 15:10 |
| penguin42 | hyper_ch: Can you boot into the affected kernel and then run apport-collect 1132477 | 15:10 |
| penguin42 | (You'll get an automated message asking you to do that shortly anyway) | 15:11 |
| hyper_ch | no apport on kubuntu | 15:11 |
| penguin42 | you should have apport-collect | 15:11 |
| hyper_ch | nope | 15:11 |
| penguin42 | then install it, it'll attach a copy of the dmesg and hardware info on the machine | 15:12 |
| penguin42 | a bot will ask you for that log info shortly anyway; the bug report as is doesn't have enough info for anyone to do anything with it | 15:13 |
| penguin42 | hyper_ch: Also, that picture you showed me had more log messages in which are likely to be useful | 15:21 |
| hyper_ch | not really | 15:32 |
| hyper_ch | plenty of inodes left on the server | 15:32 |
| hyper_ch | Filesystem Inodes IUsed IFree IUse% Mounted on | 15:32 |
| hyper_ch | /dev/mapper/sda3_crypt 121552896 195644 121357252 1% / | 15:32 |
| penguin42 | that's irrelevant | 15:32 |
| hyper_ch | and I can't really use apport | 15:36 |
| hyper_ch | since when I reproduce the bug, I can't do anything on the network anymore | 15:36 |
| hyper_ch | so it can't submit anything | 15:36 |
| penguin42 | but you can boot into that kernel and run it to at least get the boot logs and hardware info | 15:36 |
| penguin42 | also if you have any info in the /var/log logs showing that set of errors you can see the 1st ones that triggered it | 15:37 |
| hyper_ch | for that I don't need to run apport | 15:37 |
| penguin42 | fine; if you want then go and attach ALL the logs that apport would normally attach to the bug | 15:37 |
| hyper_ch | -> /var/log is tmpfs | 15:37 |
| hyper_ch | dpkg-query: no packages found matching linux | 15:45 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Hey! I'm having a problem with graphical shutdown sequence on the Raring alpha. | 17:11 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Currently, the only empirical way to shut it off is to [ sudo shutdown now ] in terminal or tty, & the last time that happened it hung forever. | 17:13 |
| penguin42 | SonikkuAmerica: And it worked on quantal? | 17:15 |
| SonikkuAmerica | penguin42: No problem in Quantal | 17:16 |
| penguin42 | SonikkuAmerica: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses#Freeze_during_boot_or_shutdown_screen | 17:18 |
| penguin42 | SonikkuAmerica: Perhaps that will give you some more debug | 17:18 |
| SonikkuAmerica | OK, I'll give that a shot then. | 17:18 |
| SonikkuAmerica | penguin42: OK, I see what the issue is in this case: It has to do with the "one or more tasks are not responding" dialog. Selecting "Shut Down Anyway" does not work at this time. | 17:26 |
| penguin42 | hyper_ch: Have you tried booting the kernel with the intel_iommu=off option - I see some suggestions from others on other systems | 17:26 |
| frank_ | skype stopped working. is there a way to make it work again? | 17:26 |
| hyper_ch | penguin42: I have, same result | 17:26 |
| SonikkuAmerica | frank_: Can you pastebin a traceback or maybe run it in a terminal? | 17:26 |
| penguin42 | SonikkuAmerica: I'm surprised that causes it to hang for ever | 17:26 |
| SonikkuAmerica | penguin42: No, it's not that... pushing the "Shut Down Anyway" button just does nothing. | 17:27 |
| frank_ | when i run it in a terminal it says segmentation fault (core dumped) | 17:27 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Selecting "Shut Down" from the system menu works perfectly after that. | 17:27 |
| hyper_ch | frank_: skype works here | 17:27 |
| hyper_ch | frank_: I added the quantal partner repository | 17:28 |
| frank_ | ok...thanks ...will try that :) | 17:28 |
| penguin42 | hyper_ch: I've set the importance and stuff on it now; if the intel-iommu option doesn't help then we'll see if any of the others have any suggestions | 17:30 |
| hyper_ch | penguin42: I can set it again and provide log | 17:31 |
| hyper_ch | if you want | 17:31 |
| penguin42 | hyper_ch: No, I don't know enough about the iommu stuff to really say anything more | 17:31 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Another thing: When an app is called in from another one, apparently the global menu does not switch from the parent app to the child... | 17:35 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Once again, a Raring thing. | 17:35 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Nevver happened in Quantal. | 17:35 |
| SonikkuAmerica | *with one v | 17:35 |
| hyper_ch | penguin42: how can you confirm it? | 17:41 |
| penguin42 | hyper_ch: It seems to be the normal practice on kernel bugs to mark them as confirmed once they have the logs | 17:43 |
| hyper_ch | penguin42: ok :) I have no idea about that | 17:43 |
| penguin42 | hyper_ch: And anyway, assuming that the logs are real you've obviously hit a real bug so there's no point arguing about that! | 17:43 |
| hyper_ch | penguin42: curious abou thtat: "Feb 24 16:46:24 subi kernel: [ 364.032492] CIFS VFS: Send error in Close = -9" this doesn't appear in the 3.5 kernel log | 17:44 |
| penguin42 | hyper_ch: Yeh, I don't know if these are separate bugs or not | 17:45 |
| hyper_ch | no idea | 17:47 |
| Atlantic777 | Anyone having problems with wicd? | 19:22 |
| Atlantic777 | I've just installed 13.04 from minimal iso, put xorg and awesome wm but wicd daemon doesn't want to start. | 19:22 |
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| SonikkuAmerica | Well, looks like Pidgin's indicator-messages plugin is broken too. It only spills notifications, but opening it (from dash or indicator) fails silently. | 22:15 |
| SonikkuAmerica | I wish I could get a traceback. | 22:15 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Or find a way to terminal into it. (Is there a way to do that?) | 22:16 |
| SonikkuAmerica | What's more, doing [ ps ax | grep pidgin ] gives about a gazillion pid's, and the [ kill ] command doesn't kill the hidden process. | 22:17 |
| trism | SonikkuAmerica: indicator-messages doesn't really do anything special when you click the app, just execs it, and the pidgin-libnotify plugin doesn't do anything special when this happens either, so for some reason pidgin isn't dealing with multiple instances correctly | 22:23 |
| SonikkuAmerica | libnotify wasn't made to open the associated program. | 22:23 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Well, Pidgin is not getting exec'ed/restored from indicator-messages, but all the other apps are fine | 22:24 |
| trism | SonikkuAmerica: libnotify isn't involved, that is just the name of the plugin that handles notifications and the messaging menu | 22:24 |
| trism | SonikkuAmerica: well, libnotify does the notifications stuff but otherwise it is libmessaging-menu | 22:25 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Yeah, I know that. | 22:25 |
| SonikkuAmerica | OK... should I submit a bug report over Launchpad? | 22:25 |
| SonikkuAmerica | for libmessaging-menu? | 22:25 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Or is this a Pidgin bug? | 22:26 |
| trism | SonikkuAmerica: no I'd file it against pidgin | 22:26 |
| SonikkuAmerica | OK | 22:26 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Thanks for the info | 22:26 |
| trism | SonikkuAmerica: it may be a messaging-menu bug but again, it doesn't really do anything special, just execs it | 22:27 |
| trism | SonikkuAmerica: can you run pidgin from a terminal when pidgin is already running and see if that works correctly? | 22:27 |
| SonikkuAmerica | I tried that, it just hangs. Definitely a Pidgin issue | 22:27 |
| trism | SonikkuAmerica: might be worth running it through gdb to see where it is hanging | 22:29 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Okie-dokie | 22:29 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Actually I'll run it through ddd (which uses gdb) | 22:29 |
| mandoguit | Hmm....toggle on the Nepomuk Indexer so I would have search function in Dolphin and now Nepomuk keeps crashing every couple of minutes. Known problem by any chance? Kernel: 3.8.0-7-generic x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: KDE 4.10.00 Distro: Ubuntu Raring Ringtail (development branch) | 22:30 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Well then again, Raring has no installation candidate in the Pidgin external PPA. | 22:41 |
| ikonia | not surprised | 22:49 |
| ikonia | why would PPA people host a repo for a non-released repo | 22:49 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Ditto. | 22:52 |
| SonikkuAmerica | I might as well be on a cruise to Tahiti. | 22:52 |
| yofel | mandoguit: a backtrace of the crash would be helpful - and file a bug in any case, this shouldn't be happening | 23:13 |
| mandoguit | yofel: thanks for responding here is the bug report etc https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=315732 | 23:13 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 315732 in fileindexer "Nepomuk keeps crashing" [Crash,Unconfirmed] | 23:13 |
| mandoguit | heh....neat! haven't seen that before. | 23:14 |
| yofel | mandoguit: from the possible dup it looks like we need a newer poppler lib | 23:17 |
| mandoguit | yofel: not sure what you mean by that statement to be honest. Is more information or an upgrade needed at my end of things or are you refering that a library needs to be updated upstream? thanks again | 23:19 |
| yofel | mandoguit: we need to update a library in k/ubuntu - see https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=315031 | 23:20 |
| ubottu | Error: Could not parse XML returned by KDE: timed out (http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=315031&ctype=xml) | 23:20 |
| yofel | so you'll have to wait until that's done - or find the PDF file the indexer is choking on | 23:21 |
| mandoguit | yofel: ahh....ok thank you. will check that out then. | 23:21 |
| yofel | mandoguit: actually, you can get some packages from https://launchpad.net/~matttbe/+archive/ppa/+sourcepub/2903898/+listing-archive-extra until then | 23:22 |
| mandoguit | yofel: ok sounds good. will check that out after I look over that other bug report. wasn't sure if my problem was related to that one or not so decided to file a fresh one. :) | 23:23 |
| yofel | that's good, but as your backtrace shows that it's the PDF indexer crashing it's likely that issue | 23:24 |
| mandoguit | yofel: guess I should try to become a bit more familiar with the backtraces too then. :) | 23:25 |
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