[00:26] <roger_n> Does anyone have any idea why when I run "phablet-dev-bootstrap [target_directory]"  I get the following error?
[00:26] <roger_n> Please make sure you have the correct access rights
[00:26] <roger_n> and the repository exists.
[00:26] <roger_n> error: Cannot fetch
[00:27] <roger_n> .
[00:28] <mrgoodcat> move to #ubuntu-phone
[00:28] <roger_n> oops wrong channel.
[00:28] <roger_n> thanks
[12:00] <TToivanen> My build doesn't boot. How the heck can I troubleshoot? Logcat is useless.
[12:02] <TToivanen> Anybody?
[12:08] <mrgoodcat> #ubuntu-phone
[13:56] <AlanBell> good afternoon/morning/evening all
[13:56] <AlanBell> I hope you are having a phabulous time with your phablets
[13:57] <smartboyhw> Hiyas!!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
[13:57] <AlanBell> As phone and tablets are now all part of the Ubuntu Touch platform we are merging the #ubuntu-phone and #ubuntu-tablet channels into a converged #ubuntu-touch channel
[13:57] <smartboyhw> LOL
[13:59] <Tigrouzen> re
[13:59] <gianguido> Tigrouzen, let's talk here
[14:00] <hipboi>  Tigrouzen: from http://phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb, i can not see the ubuntu part
[14:00]  * AlanBell hopes everyone turns up here
[14:00] <Tigrouzen> hipboi, ubuntu part its on other git
[14:00] <gianguido> AlanBell, here we are :)
[14:01] <Tigrouzen> hipboi, ubuntu part its all ready compiled ubuntu touch its cm10 with ubuntu arm part
[14:01]  * smartboyhw receives a hell number of joins
[14:01] <smartboyhw> LOL
[14:01] <Tigrouzen> hipboi, compil its just cm10 for ubuntu if you want ubuntu arm part wait i send you link
[14:01] <AlanBell> got the commands in slightly the wrong order, but all is well now ;)
[14:02] <AlanBell> welcome back everyone
[14:02] <Tigrouzen> WHos is AlanBell ?
[14:02] <k1l> new channel is new \o/
[14:02] <smartboyhw> AlanBell, Ubuntu's  IRC guy
[14:02] <Tigrouzen> Where's Mark ?
[14:02] <k1l> Tigrouzen: he is one from the ubuntu irc council. he merges the phone and tablet channel into the main touch channel
[14:03] <smartboyhw> Tigrouzen, and Mark Shuttleworth simply isn't here:P (His nick is sabdfl)
[14:03] <smartboyhw> sabdfl = self-appointed benevolent dictator for life
[14:03] <Tigrouzen> smartboyhw, tk ;)
[14:03] <k1l> since tablet and phone are similar we dont need 2 channels where the same questions get answered :)
[14:04] <gianguido> AlanBell, why not add a link to the ports? :)
[14:04] <smartboyhw> gianguido, +1
[14:04] <AlanBell> sure, what else needs to go in the /topic
[14:04] <gianguido> mh
[14:05] <gianguido> porting instructions!
[14:05] <AlanBell> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting that page?
[14:05] <smartboyhw> AlanBell, yep
[14:05] <smartboyhw> And install instructions:P
[14:05] <AlanBell> I figured the touch root page has that and everything else linked on it
[14:05] <gianguido> AlanBell, and this too https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[14:05] <smartboyhw> AlanBell, how about the gitweb?
[14:06] <gianguido> anyone here is having issues with libandroid_runtime?
[14:06] <smartboyhw> gianguido, dunno
[14:06]  * smartboyhw is still syncing the code
[14:06] <gianguido> smartboyhw, lol
[14:06] <smartboyhw> gianguido, LOl
[14:07] <Tigrouzen> hipboi, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM
[14:07] <AlanBell> oh, factoids too for the bot in this channel
[14:07] <AlanBell> !lola
[14:07] <k1l> i think we need a popey  for the topic :)
[14:07] <AlanBell> ok, that is here
[14:07] <AlanBell> !source
[14:07] <smartboyhw> k1l, +1
[14:07] <smartboyhw> AlanBell, that is wrong:P
[14:08] <gianguido> i'm trying to port ubuntu cm layer to sgs3 i9300 and Tigrouzen is helping me to solve a strange situation: mali drivers needs libandroid_runtime.so but this lib isn't included into the ubuntu sources
[14:08] <smartboyhw> gianguido, I'm porting it to Motorola XOOM Wi-fi
[14:08] <gianguido> smartboyhw, good luck
[14:09] <hipboi> gianguido: thanks
[14:09] <AlanBell> ubot5: source-#ubuntu-touch is <reply> source code for the base is here http://phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb the userspace code is here: https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team
[14:09] <AlanBell> !source
[14:10] <Tigrouzen> ok but where's arm source ubuntu touch ?
[14:10] <smartboyhw> Bah
[14:10] <smartboyhw> Uh oh!
[14:10] <smartboyhw> Something has gone wrong. We're sorry!
[14:10] <smartboyhw> If we are in the middle of an update, Launchpad will be back in less than five minutes. Otherwise, we are working to fix the unexpected problems.
[14:10] <smartboyhw> Technically, this is a 503 error and has been caused by our database having temporary operational issues.
[14:10] <smartboyhw> Reload this page or try again in a few minutes
[14:10] <smartboyhw> !?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?? How come Launchpad has that
[14:11]  * smartboyhw has accidentally triggered the bot
[14:11] <smartboyhw> Sorry AlanBell
[14:11] <AlanBell> something like that?
[14:11] <gianguido> perfect
[14:12] <gianguido> Tigrouzen, maybe we need to wait for proper samsung's sgs3 kernel sources
[14:12] <AlanBell> Tigrouzen: it is all built for arm
[14:12] <gianguido> by now we only have 4.1.2 sources
[14:13] <Tigrouzen> gianguido, what i use for Wave
[14:13] <Tigrouzen> 4.1.2
[14:13] <rymate1234> hi
[14:13] <Tigrouzen> AlanBell, i mean arm source from ubuntu phone not cm10.1
[14:14] <Tigrouzen> or git
[14:14] <gianguido> away for a bit
[14:14] <gianguido> see you soon guys
[14:14] <tilal6991> Anyone building from source for a new device and got wifi working?
[14:15] <AlanBell> Tigrouzen: ok, that will be the userspace stuff then, https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team
[14:16] <Tigrouzen> AlanBell, ok i take a look thanks
[14:18] <rob_w> is it just me or why iam having issue to sync down the thing ?  phablet-dev-bootstrap -v grouper ubuntu-tablet-grouper
[14:18] <TToivanen> My build get's stuck at CM spinner. Am I supposed to do some adb commands or what?
[14:19] <hipboi> rob_w: me too
[14:19] <hipboi> rob_w: the sync stops sometimes
[14:20] <rob_w> is there a way to restart it to the previous directory without deleteing all ? like repo sync ?
[14:20] <smartboyhw> AlanBell, when you mean "Porting guide (advanced)" in topic it would make people think there is a simplier version.....
[14:22] <ogra_> AlanBell, better
[14:23] <Tigrouzen> gianguido|away, let's try add on device.mk library needed from mali
[14:23] <sfrique_> how big is the sorce?
[14:23] <sfrique_> alredy have 14G on my syc
[14:23] <ogra_> AlanBell, please also add https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes to the topic, saves a lot of FAQs if we can point people there
[14:23] <Tigrouzen> 30go after compiled
[14:23] <ogra_> (with the complete url)
[14:24] <AlanBell> sure ogra_
[14:24] <ogra_> thx
[14:25]  * ogra_ hugs AlanBell 
[14:26] <Tigrouzen> new revision phablet tools can work offline but what is mean ?
[14:26] <mrgoodcat> thank you for merging channels
[14:27] <sfrique_> and before?
[14:28] <datagutt> gianguido
[14:29] <datagutt> gianguido|away
[14:29] <datagutt> sup
[14:29] <Tigrouzen> orientation work for some ?
[14:32] <AlanBell> ogra_: if you log in you should have access to change the topic and stuff now
[14:37] <TToivanen> Do I need to do ubuntu_chroot shell and ubuntu-session before I can boot?
[14:39] <Tigrouzen> no you can diabled it and run it after on adb
[14:48] <juan_> how can i know my phone's mac address in ubuntu mobile?
[14:49] <Tigrouzen> first mount proc
[14:49] <waa> ip addr show wlan0
[14:50] <montaser> hello
[14:50] <montaser> i need help
[14:51] <montaser> in my ubuntu touch
[14:51] <montaser> my nexus 7 is not working anymore
[14:51] <montaser> after flashing
[14:51] <montaser> please help
[14:52] <Tigrouzen> montaser, u mean u cant return to android or ubuntu dont work ?
[14:52] <montaser> i cant get back to android
[14:53] <Tigrouzen> montaser, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Installation
[14:53] <montaser> thank u
[14:53] <Tigrouzen> montaser, "Returning your Nexus 7 to Stock Android"
[14:57] <gennro> hi
[14:57] <ogra_> Tigrouzen, working offline means that phablet-flash can use locally downloaded image files now instead fo having to pull them each time
[15:01] <gennro> 8am
[15:04] <pschastain> Question regarding Ubuntu-touch on a nexus 7 - I can't figure out how to change the time/location. The date & time drop-down also has a couple of events I'd like to clear.
[15:04] <gennro> pschastain, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes
[15:05] <krabador> excuse me, the old #ubuntu-phone is closing, or become dev-only oriented?
[15:05] <smartboyhw> krabador, closing
[15:05] <smartboyhw> since #ubuntu-phone and #ubuntu-tablet is merging into this channel
[15:05] <krabador> smartboyhw, ok, long live to #ubuntu-touch then
[15:07] <pschastain> gennro, thanks. I somehow missed that first read-through
[15:07] <krabador> i'm I am willing to do a port for samsung i9100 galaxy sII i9100, i read the guide and i would know if despite of 10.1 sources, i can take the official samsung jb sources for i9100
[15:08] <gennro> pschastain, np
[15:09] <Tigrouzen> AlanBell, "join us on IRC in #ubuntu-phone on irc.freenode.net and/or"  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
[15:10] <AlanBell> will fix shortly
[15:10] <gennro> ?
[15:10] <AlanBell> or anyone can, it is a wiki :)
[15:10] <Tigrouzen> ok
[15:11] <krabador> i prey you, nobody knows if i can use official samsung jb sources?
[15:11] <Tigrouzen> krabador, wich model
[15:12] <sergiusens> krabador: you should be able to. Just need to adapt to whatever is there
[15:12] <krabador> Tigrouzen, sergiusens , samsung i9100
[15:12] <krabador> Tigrouzen, sergiusens , 10.1 isn't propery working
[15:12] <krabador> for that device
[15:12] <Tigrouzen> krabador, compile error ?
[15:13] <Tigrouzen> krabador, you mean cm10.1 not stable for i9100?
[15:13] <krabador> Tigrouzen, yes
[15:14] <krabador> Tigrouzen, cm devs are working to gralloc and hwc for that devices
[15:14] <krabador> Tigrouzen, because the exynos
[15:15] <krabador> for that, i'm asking about samsung official sources, firts, if they can working better than 10.1 sources
[15:15] <Tigrouzen> krabador, nop Ubuntu its now just work on CM10.1
[15:16] <krabador> can't take what ubuntu needs from cm 10.1, from official sources?
[15:16] <Tigrouzen> krabador, did you try compile it ?
[15:17] <krabador> Tigrouzen, not yet
[15:17] <Tigrouzen> krabador, exonys 4 ?
[15:18] <Tigrouzen> krabador, mali 400 ?
[15:18] <krabador> Tigrouzen, yes 4210
[15:18] <krabador> yes
[15:18] <Tigrouzen> krabador, some prob to compile it for the moment other member try to port it too u can work gianguido
[15:19] <krabador> yes i talk with him, he told me of his i9300 port
[15:20] <Tigrouzen> krabador, you can try compile first and see
[15:20] <krabador> ok
[15:22] <TToivanen> hj moro
[15:23] <gianguido> back
[15:23] <gianguido> maybe datagutt found the problem
[15:23] <Tigrouzen> ah
[15:24] <penster> So in the future if you connect your phone to a monitor  a full ubuntu install will be displayed?
[15:24] <datagutt> Tigrouzen: some new commits that removed some graphic related hacks
[15:24] <gianguido> updates to graphic config in samsung kernel
[15:24] <datagutt> Well
[15:24] <gianguido> syncing and compiling
[15:24] <datagutt>  + remove of that egl hack
[15:24] <gianguido> i'll report
[15:25] <tocado157> hi someone working with motorola defy ?
[15:25] <Tigrouzen> datagutt, on ubuntu touch commit or kernel ?
[15:25] <datagutt> on CM repos
[15:25] <Tigrouzen> k
[15:26] <Tigrouzen> but hm im working on local and if u  sync it i lost my work
[15:26] <Tigrouzen> use
[15:26] <Tigrouzen> need to git my work first
[15:32] <gianguido> building
[15:32] <Tigrouzen> ^^
[15:32] <gianguido> update to extract-files
[15:32] <gianguido> there are some new files to pull
[15:32] <gianguido> so rerun this script
[15:35] <Tigrouzen> all server laggy github ppa....
[15:36] <gianguido> building kernel
[15:36] <gianguido> except an i9300 testing in about... 50 minutes?
[15:36] <gianguido> hai cdesai
[15:37] <keysia> thank you for all end night
[15:37] <AlanBell> looking at the terminal app design https://ubuntu.mybalsamiq.com/projects/ubuntuphonecoreapps/Terminal+-+Basic+View bit surprised that page does not include the word "bash" :/
[15:37] <gianguido> anyone knows how to pass things like "-j3" to brunch?
[15:37] <AlanBell> is that going to be a new shell, or a patched bash to support touch extensions or something?
[15:37] <Tigrouzen> manifests
[15:37] <Tigrouzen> ah brunch
[15:38] <gianguido> AlanBell, like android, simply a new terminal emulator
[15:38] <AlanBell> so a new shell
[15:38] <keysia> hmmmm..........hawe are you allan
[15:39] <AlanBell> the designs are talking about removing the prompt
[15:39] <cdesai> gianguido: brunch does -j $threads/cores
[15:39] <AlanBell> which you can do in the bashrc, but typically the terminal would be an SSH connection to something else which would't know it is running on a phone UI
[15:39] <gianguido> hoping that canonical promote a contest for creating new system sound/ringtones lol
[15:40] <gianguido> cdesai, good thanks
[15:40] <keysia> ya iam like terminal emulator
[15:40] <Tigrouzen> Native Ubuntu !!
[15:40] <gianguido> Tigrouzen, wat
[15:40] <Tigrouzen> Better to get native Ubuntu
[15:41] <AlanBell> ;) keysia yeah, I want that too, it is one of the things I use most on my android phone
[15:41] <Tigrouzen> gianguido, Odroid work on native Ubuntu for sp5 platforme
[15:42] <keysia> that canonical promote
[15:43] <keysia> yah alan good much so
[15:43] <gianguido> breakfast/brunch/mka beacon are the funnier command to start building something
[15:46] <|aways|> hi guys why i cant sync repo's from phablet sources ?
[15:47] <gianguido> |aways|, repos are under heavy load
[15:47] <|aways|> gianguido: then need to wait ?
[15:47] <gianguido> |aways|, yeah
[15:47] <|aways|> dammn
[15:47] <|aways|> okey thank you
[15:48] <datagutt> [16:36:37] <gianguido>	 hai cdesai
[15:48] <datagutt> you know cdesai?
[15:48] <keysia> okey thank n bye
[15:48] <gianguido> datagutt, was a greeter lol
[15:49] <datagutt> Ah
[15:49] <datagutt> lol
[15:49] <gianguido> why?
[15:49] <datagutt> i know him
[15:49] <datagutt> :P
[15:50] <gianguido> uh lol
[15:50] <mhall119> AlanBell: can you send an email to the ubuntu-phone and ubuntu-tablet mailing lists letting them know about the IRC channel changes?
[15:51] <ErikZZ> I've recently gotten the note 2. This means my old Galaxy nexus is available to be experimented on. :D Going through the touch/install wiki now.
[15:51] <AlanBell> mhall119: sure, will do
[15:51] <mhall119> thanks
[15:53] <pschastain> Timezone fixed... sorta. Menu bar along top shows proper time, but drop-down still shows UTC/London. I had to manually fix '/etc/timezone' to get even this. Any ideas?
[15:54] <pschastain> Rebooted. Drop-down shows proper time, but still says I'm in London.
[15:55] <ogra_> pschastain, did you follow the release notes for setting the timezone ?
[15:55] <ogra_> (running dpkg-reconfigure etc)
[15:56] <sergiusens> ogra_: pschastain the London thing in the datetime indicator is just an image still (IIRC), the timezone should be correct overall though
[15:56] <sergiusens> if you configure it as ogra_ mentions ^^
[15:56] <ogra_> right
[16:00] <Tigrouzen> gianguido, news ?
[16:00] <pschastain> Followed all instructions.
[16:00] <gianguido> Tigrouzen, all the include went good so i think that the build will not fail
[16:01] <gianguido> Tigrouzen, now building busybox
[16:02] <pschastain> First run of 'dpkg-reconfigure' appended my tz to '/etc/timezone', leaving 'Utc/utc' (or something like that) first, which is why I had to change it manually.
[16:03] <pschastain> sergiusens, thanks, that explains it then.
[16:04] <datagutt> gianguido: sounds good
[16:04] <Jaffa> Af'noon all
[16:05] <gianguido> i hope
[16:05] <datagutt> if removal of that hack fixed it
[16:05] <datagutt> hm
[16:05] <datagutt> If it fails, you have a problem
[16:05] <pschastain> Now, about those events that are below the time... I'm not planning lunch with Anna, nor am I going to a gallery opening, nice as that sounds. Any way to get rid of those?
[16:05] <datagutt> :P
[16:05] <gianguido> datagutt, lol
[16:05] <gianguido> no cm devs here?
[16:06] <ogra_> pschastain, thats just because you didnt meet anna yet, give her a call :)
[16:06] <datagutt> cdesai is a cm dev.. but he does not touch i9300
[16:06] <pschastain> ogra_, not sure the mrs. would appreciate that :-)
[16:06] <tilal6991> I've done some CM devving
[16:06] <ogra_> you could take the mrs to the gallery opening then ;)
[16:08] <AlanBell> !lola | pschastain
[16:09] <gianguido> AlanBell, bot scripting? lol
[16:09] <ogra_> heh, you called it lola ... cool
[16:09] <pschastain> I really need to read that page again - second time I've missed an answer :-p
[16:09] <AlanBell> la la la la lola
[16:14] <zeba> hi all
[16:15] <zeba> while checking out the code using phablet-dev-bootstrap i often get connection errors or "the remote end hung up unexpectedly".. any help?
[16:15] <ogra_> well, the server is under heavy load and the repo is huge
[16:15] <ogra_> justr keep trying
[16:16] <zeba> yeah i see
[16:16] <zeba> thanks
[16:22] <penster> Just use your browser to dl
[16:23] <penster> It was way faster for me
[16:28] <mainerror> Mhmm, hello new-old channel. :)
[16:29] <ogra_> :)
[16:30] <gianguido> building the zip
[16:30] <Tigrouzen> ^^
[16:30] <gianguido> hi mainerror
[16:31] <gianguido> zip'd
[16:31] <mainerror> o/
[16:36] <datagutt> gianguido
[16:36] <datagutt> nice
[16:36] <gianguido> flashing the rootfs
[16:36] <gianguido> reboot...
[16:37] <nexwave-mat> hey guys Im trying to port ubuntu touch to the LG P930. Im getting it to boot and can ubuntu_chroot shell but when i run ubuntu-session the screen stays dark.
[16:37] <nexwave-mat> any suggestions?
[16:38] <mainerror> I think we had that on the mailing list didn't we?
[16:38] <gianguido> nothing
[16:38] <gianguido> screen stays on the bootloader log
[16:38] <TToivanen> nexwave-mat One X and One X+ having the same problem
[16:38] <gianguido> EGL drivers need libandroid_runtime
[16:39] <gianguido> who is the developer for onex?
[16:39] <rrerolle>   
[16:39] <TToivanen> gianguido I guess that's me
[16:39] <gianguido> good
[16:39] <gianguido> what logcat says?
[16:40] <gianguido> if your logcat too reports that surfaceflinger segfautls, we have a common problem
[16:40] <TToivanen> logcat taken at what point?
[16:40] <gianguido> where you want
[16:40] <gianguido> start it
[16:40] <gianguido> and when it reports a segfault, go to the first line
[16:41] <gianguido> and see if it reports error related to libandroid_runtime.so
[16:41] <tilal6991> nexwave-mat: Have a look at ubuntu logs
[16:41] <tilal6991> Not adb logcat
[16:41] <nexwave-mat> I have a few logs I could post to pastebin
[16:42] <gianguido> mainerror, are you an ubuntu developer?
[16:42] <mainerror> gianguido: Nope. Just a random community member. :)
[16:42] <gianguido> :-/ thanks ayway
[16:43] <nexwave-mat> what ubuntu log? syslog?
[16:44] <datagutt> gianguido: i just wonder why libandroid_runtime is faiiling
[16:44] <datagutt> is it dependant on some dalvik component?
[16:44] <datagutt> why knows
[16:44] <datagutt> who*
[16:44] <gianguido> we need an ubuntu developer who works on these things
[16:44] <datagutt> yeh
[16:44] <gianguido> or a cm developer who know what libandroid_runtime do
[16:45] <the_lord> Hello, I've been playing with Ubuntu touch for a few days, and I have a question I haven't found a precise answer yet, it's about the android layer, will this be removed in the future?
[16:46] <gianguido> the_lord, possibily
[16:47] <thththeaddd> hi. i'm trying to port ubuntu touch to the htc sensation but i get errors while retreiving the files with the command "phablet-dev-bootstrap -c /touch". it alays says something like: "fatal: read error: Connection reset by peer" or "fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly" or "error: Cannot fetch ...".
[16:47] <jdmssmkr> I already installed Ubuntu Desktop on my Nexus 7 but would like to try out Ubuntu Touch now. Unfortunatly, adb can't find any device. Should I really reinstall android before Ubuntu Touch or is there a workaround?
[16:47] <gianguido> thththeaddd, servers are under heavy load
[16:48] <thththeaddd> i thought so
[16:48] <thththeaddd> is there any way around?
[16:48] <the_lord> gianguido, why possibly?
[16:49] <datagutt> gianguido
[16:49] <gianguido> the_lord, it will be possible when we will have a method to boot directly ubuntu
[16:49] <gianguido> datagutt, yes
[16:49] <datagutt> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2163815
[16:49] <gianguido> thththeaddd, no
[16:49] <datagutt> did this guy ahve the same problem?
[16:49] <datagutt> did he even try
[16:49] <datagutt> because note ii has same processor
[16:49] <datagutt> check his repos maybe
[16:50] <gianguido> he must have the same problems...
[16:50] <datagutt> y
[16:50] <gianguido> maybe it's useful to have this guy in irc
[16:51] <Art-X> where is Cotulla when you need him :p
[16:51] <datagutt> he did the same as you..
[16:51] <datagutt> so yeh
[16:51] <gianguido> hahahaha Art-X great word!
[16:51] <gianguido> *words
[16:51] <datagutt> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38414129#post38414129
[16:51] <datagutt> he simply said
[16:51] <datagutt> "pgoress"
[16:51] <datagutt> "progress"*
[16:52] <tilal6991> datagutt: What's in the logs?
[16:52] <datagutt> hm?
[16:52] <datagutt> ask gianguido
[16:52] <tilal6991> I have done CM for various devices - what does logcat say about android_runtime?
[16:52] <tilal6991> Oh right
[16:52] <tilal6991> gianguido?
[16:52] <gianguido> yeah tiagoscd
[16:52] <gianguido> sorry
[16:52] <gianguido> tilal6991,
[16:53] <gianguido> surfaceflinger cannot find libandroid_runtime
[16:53] <gianguido> without libandroid_runtime we can't use EGL drivers for mali, so no screen output
[16:53] <tilal6991> What is the exact message?
[16:53] <gianguido> wait, i have a logcat
[16:55] <gianguido> tilal6991, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5561609/
[16:55] <tilal6991> I see
[16:55] <tilal6991> Yeah - android_runtime is part of frameworks/base
[16:55] <Art-X> gianguido, somehow I feel that Cotulla is the kickstarter of the whole rom modding business.. he could boot up a toaster :-) good old hd2 days... sigh...
[16:56] <tilal6991> You might try pushing the lib from a CM build
[16:56] <gianguido> Art-X, good old? now he's running win8 on hd2 lol
[16:56] <gianguido> tilal6991, tried
[16:56] <gianguido> with all the libs following libandroid_runtime
[16:56] <tilal6991> What happens then?
[16:56] <gianguido> but then, libEGL fails
[16:56] <gianguido> a minute
[16:56] <Art-X> gianguido, he is? rofl...  nice!
[16:57] <gianguido> i'll push the libs and report
[16:57] <gianguido> Art-X, yeah, check his twitter!
[16:57] <Art-X> gianguido, will do
[16:58] <ErikZZ> Ok, I'm trying to get my Samsung Galaxy Nexus i515 loaded with ubuntu. I'm using a linux VM for this, and trying to follow the directions here https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Touch/Install
[16:59] <ErikZZ> I'm stuck. I'm not even sure I'm on the bootloader screen. My VM can see the device using lsusb, but that's as far as I can get.
[17:00] <Tigrouzen> i added lib ril  now he dont boot ^^
[17:01] <gianguido> ok then
[17:01] <datagutt> gianguido
[17:01] <datagutt> i am talking to cm dev
[17:01] <gianguido> tilal6991, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5562165/
[17:01] <gianguido> datagutt, yeah tell me
[17:01] <ErikZZ> hm. Fastboot doesn't show any devices connected. I'll work with that.
[17:02] <Art-X> gianguido, just read it yea... hope ubuntu will be his next project.. :-)
[17:03] <tilal6991> gianguido: Ouch
[17:03] <tilal6991> You need to break the dependency of android_runtime before you get any firther with porting
[17:04] <tilal6991> And knowing how bad exonys is as a platform I wish you the best of luck
[17:04] <Tigrouzen> yes but if dependency depend libandroid ^^
[17:06] <Himavanth> hello anyone there
[17:06] <gianguido> tilal6991, so definitely i need to work on mali drivers...
[17:06] <gianguido> how good
[17:07] <gianguido> hi Himavanth
[17:07] <Himavanth> how can i access my ubuntu phone file system
[17:07] <tilal6991> gianguido: It's not the drivers you need to work on
[17:07] <tilal6991> You need to work on the hwcomposer and gralloc
[17:07] <gianguido>  /data /ubuntu
[17:07] <gianguido> yeah...
[17:08] <gianguido> what a beautiful thing
[17:08] <tilal6991> Which device again?
[17:08] <Tigrouzen> ^^
[17:08] <Himavanth> i'm able to mount the phone drive i'm using a mac
[17:09] <Himavanth> sorry i'm not able to mount the device
[17:09] <datagutt> Exynos…
[17:09] <datagutt> see how easy the non-exynos samsung devices have gotten ubuntu touch
[17:09] <tilal6991> Yep
[17:10] <Sinan___> tilal6991: Even CM team couldn't solve hwcomposer and gralloc problems with exynos :)
[17:10] <tilal6991> Oh man
[17:10] <tilal6991> Yeah
[17:10] <tilal6991> Just realised that
[17:10] <tilal6991> The props are linked against android_runtime
[17:10] <tilal6991> Wow
[17:11] <tilal6991> Yeah - unless Samsung release the source or blobs which don't depend on it I can't see anyone progressing any further
[17:11] <datagutt> Yeh
[17:11] <Sinan___> which will never be happen :)
[17:12] <datagutt> We're fucked
[17:12] <Sinan___> samsung will never release anything related to exynos
[17:12] <gianguido> boycott samsung
[17:12] <Himavanth> guys help me.. how to access my ubuntu file system from mac
[17:12] <datagutt> they only sources samsung have released… are useless
[17:12] <datagutt> hacked up gingerbread code that doesn't work with any samsung product on the market
[17:13] <giveen> HI, I'm trying to run "phablet-dev-bootstrap [target_directory]" and I end up getting hung up on remote.
[17:13] <datagutt> and mali will never be opensourced
[17:13] <tilal6991> Just incase anyone is interested
[17:13] <tilal6991> http://live.theverge.com/firefox-os-mwc-2013-live-blog/
[17:13] <datagutt> tilal: my dad is at MWC right now
[17:13] <gianguido> datagutt, hoping on that opensource mali driver prokect
[17:13] <gianguido> project
[17:13] <datagutt> gianguido: That project can only show a spinning cube
[17:14] <giveen> Hm, thats odd, third time must have been the charm, now I am syncing
[17:14] <Art-X> datagutt, anyone from samsung there he can pester? :p
[17:14] <tilal6991> datagutt: Nice
[17:14] <datagutt> does not boot android yet
[17:14] <gianguido> datagutt, nouveau too some time ago :)
[17:14] <datagutt> Art-X: samsung marketing has no power
[17:15] <datagutt> Oh btw… you know what is worse (development wise) than a samsung?
[17:15] <datagutt> A chinese smartphone powered by exynos
[17:15] <tilal6991> Hahahahahaha
[17:15] <datagutt> took 10 months for them to release source
[17:15] <tilal6991> Does that exist?
[17:15] <datagutt> which nobody have been able to compile
[17:15] <datagutt> The phone itself is good
[17:15] <datagutt> But god, no development for it
[17:15] <datagutt> http://en.meizu.com/
[17:15] <datagutt> this one
[17:16] <gianguido> woah meizu phones
[17:16] <datagutt> I have a Meizu MX… dual-core
[17:16] <gianguido> good looking phones
[17:16] <datagutt> similar to a sgs2
[17:16] <Art-X> looks scarily like an iphone
[17:16] <tilal6991> Woah
[17:16] <datagutt> Yeh
[17:16] <datagutt> but better
[17:16] <tilal6991> Emizu
[17:16] <datagutt> lol
[17:16] <tilal6991> * Meizu
[17:16] <gianguido> the only thing that comes to mind now is retry with frankenbuilds
[17:16] <datagutt> they are at MWC actually
[17:17] <datagutt> got a booththere
[17:17] <Art-X> lol stand with a google translate bigscreen wall?
[17:18] <Art-X> (there's an idea for the future)
[17:18] <bobweaver> Ok 2 questions    1)  you all say that you need apps then people spend days programing these to find out that you in fact DO NOT need these apps and you are just wasting time. What do you say to this ?       2) you say that the source code is wide open. this is not true and there ar many libs that one can not get there hands on. How do you expect to have developers develop something if they can not even test there features ?
[17:19] <datagutt> Uhm wut
[17:19] <datagutt> do you mean libs that ubuntu does not even have access to?
[17:19] <Art-X> lol u just stated two facts instead of 2 questions
[17:19] <datagutt> like closed source manufcaturer blobs
[17:19] <datagutt> :P
[17:19] <AlanBell> bobweaver: date on that screenshot on G+ is Jan 8th. Just a static picture?
[17:20] <gianguido> btw i think that "ubuntu touch runs on every device that runs android" isnt a great phrase anymore
[17:20] <bobweaver> No I mean libs like libhud-1 libhybris-dev  libubuntu-platform-api1-dev   Ubuntu.Applications libary
[17:20] <mhall119> bobweaver: the source code for those libs should be open, I've been asking around to find out where it is
[17:20] <Art-X> should be "can eventually run"
[17:20] <gianguido> yeah
[17:20] <bobweaver> you know the ones that people can not find
[17:21] <datagutt> "ubuntu touch runs on every device that runs android and is not made by samsung"
[17:21] <datagutt> ftfy
[17:21] <bobweaver> I mean How can I tie the HUD into my app if there is no code to test it on ?
[17:21] <gianguido> datagutt, yeah, something like this
[17:21] <mhall119> bobweaver: there will be code, it's not being intentionally withheld
[17:21] <datagutt> or "uses exynos4"
[17:22] <gianguido> yes because exynos3 got it
[17:22] <datagutt> Hm
[17:22] <datagutt> tho
[17:22] <gianguido> because it's using powervr D:
[17:22] <bobweaver> so what you all are saying is that only people with money get to test this out
[17:22] <datagutt> meizu is in some ways better tahn samsung
[17:22] <datagutt> their ui is usable
[17:22] <datagutt> they use uboot as bootloader
[17:22] <mhall119> bobweaver: you don't need money, just a device
[17:22] <gianguido> uboot?! :O
[17:22] <datagutt> y
[17:22] <gianguido> awesome!
[17:22] <datagutt> but some seriously stripped down version
[17:22] <datagutt> they removed some commands
[17:22] <bobweaver> mhall119,  you are tight there not 200 USD
[17:22] <bobweaver> right *
[17:23] <gianguido> trying the last thing for i9300
[17:23] <gianguido> otherwise, i'll update the status of the port with "not currently possible"
[17:23] <bobweaver> It is super furstarting I am qt fanboy and I can not build libhud or many other things because there is missing libs
[17:24] <Art-X> gianguido, but it's still early on sunday
[17:24] <Art-X> some magic can happen :p
[17:24] <bobweaver> then I spend 6 days making weather app to see Google +1 picture of weather app WTF is that noise ?
[17:24] <bobweaver> AlanBell,  thanks for clearning that UP
[17:24] <gianguido> Art-X, that's because i'm writing "currently"C :)
[17:25] <Lloir> hey guys anyone able to help me out here? http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=z7NgSjcG
[17:25] <AlanBell> bobweaver: not clearing anything up, I have no idea if it is an app or an image, I just spotted the date
[17:25] <Art-X> lol currenly was a moment ago at all times... ok.. now I'm being lame :p
[17:25] <Lloir> it's driving me insane + i need a fresh set of eyes on the problem
[17:26] <bobweaver> AlanBell,  then maybe the moron that put up the apps that are needed (core ones) needs to take it all down Stop Lieing to people
[17:27] <mhall119> bobweaver: there can be multiple weather apps, you can make one and somebody else can make one, each to your own designs
[17:28] <Art-X> Lloir, oeh remember you working on the one X :-)
[17:28] <bobweaver> mhall119,  then what is the use in using the word "CORE" then what is the use in the mailing list what is the use of contacting people
[17:28] <bobweaver> what is the use in Lieing to people
[17:28] <Lloir> Art-X, the X+ but yea :P
[17:29] <Lloir> pretty sure this is the final hurdle for me
[17:29] <Lloir> once i've gotten past this, it SHOULD display
[17:29] <Art-X> Lloir, but the difference in hardware wasn't that big I believe, except for speed and memory?
[17:29] <Lloir> that's all of the difference
[17:29] <mhall119> bobweaver: there is a team who is working together to write a weather app following one set of designs.  You made one on your own, with your own designs and your own codebase.  Which is fantastic, btw, I really liked yours.  But when you intentionally do your own thing, you can't expect others to simply stop working on their own
[17:29] <Lloir> but apparantly the HOX needed patches to build
[17:29] <Lloir> where-as the X+ needed none
[17:30] <Art-X> Lloir, Very nice :-) I have the one X, and was following your thread on XDA..
[17:30] <Lloir> nice
[17:30] <Lloir> if i can get this to work correctly, i should be able to help the HOX guys
[17:30] <mhall119> bobweaver: the purpose of the Core Apps project is to build community and collaboration around their development
[17:30] <bobweaver> mhall119,  that dosent matter the facts are this you all say that you need somethhing and you dont you are lieing to developers The wiki should say something about the core apps are done
[17:31] <bobweaver> or that you are asting your time because we allready did this
[17:31] <mhall119> the core apps are not done
[17:31] <bobweaver> Not we want CORE apps
[17:31] <bobweaver> then what are these pictures that I am seeing ?
[17:31] <mhall119> what pictures?
[17:31] <bobweaver> v
[17:31] <bobweaver> http://cdn.androidcentral.com/sites/androidcentral.com/files/imagecache/w680h550/postimages/9274/ubuntu_touch-3.jpg
[17:32] <mhall119> bobweaver: I have no idea, I've not seen that before
[17:32] <bobweaver> that picture tells it all it says that this was donr a while ago
[17:32] <AlanBell> bobweaver: possibly done a while ago in photoshop in the design team
[17:32] <Scognito> hi
[17:32] <mhall119> bobweaver: the calculator app on the Touch preview is just an image mockup
[17:32] <mhall119> given the date on that one, I'd assume it's a mockup too
[17:33] <Tassadar> bobweaver: that app is just an image
[17:33] <bobweaver> that right there is my point if you are going to ask people to make something that might take 3 to 6 days to make you might want to tell them that there are things out there already that there are thm core apps
[17:33] <gianguido> tried a very bad thing: ubuntu binary on top of a running cm
[17:33] <bobweaver> Tassadar,  how do you know this ?
[17:33] <AlanBell> the whole design process is backwards from what you might expect, they start with screen look and then backfill functionality, it is very odd, but it is normal for canonical stuff to be done that way
[17:33] <Tassadar> because it is in the dev preview
[17:33] <Tassadar> you can run it
[17:33] <gianguido> black screen
[17:33] <Tassadar> and it is "just" an image
[17:33] <AlanBell> architecture follows image
[17:34] <Scognito> I'm getting tons of "remote end hung up unexpectedly" when running phablet-dev-bootstrap...any hint how to fix it? (rerunning it again fail 90% time)
[17:34] <mhall119> bobweaver: that's not even the design mockup that the Canonical Design Team made
[17:34] <AlanBell> is it the shelf even?
[17:34] <AlanBell> is the shadow right?
[17:34] <mhall119> it's almost certainly a quick image someone made as a placeholder
[17:34] <Tassadar> yes, just like the calc app
[17:35] <mhall119> AlanBell: it doesn't look quite right, no
[17:35] <AlanBell> and the top bar over the top of the thing that looks like the shelf?
[17:35] <bobweaver> mhall119,  yeah that is another thing here we are 2 weeks later and still have not heard anything from canonical design team
[17:35] <mhall119> bobweaver: yes we have
[17:35] <AlanBell> is that perhaps a gmail or browser plugin?
[17:35] <mhall119> for some of the apps anywya
[17:35] <bobweaver> mhall119,  no I havent do you have something that I would like to hear ?
[17:35] <mhall119> AlanBell: I doubt it, it's most likely a placeholder image, like Tassadar said
[17:36] <Tassadar> by the way, 2 weeks? The preview was released ~3 days ago
[17:36] <bobweaver> Tassadar,  the sdk was release way more the 2 weeks ago
[17:36] <Tassadar> oh, okay
[17:36] <AlanBell> Tassadar: core apps project was a bit longer, people have been drawing pretty pictures for a while
[17:36] <bobweaver> that wiki page was made way more then 2 days ago also
[17:37] <mhall119> bobweaver: see http://design.canonical.com/ and http://design.ubuntu.com/apps
[17:37] <bobweaver> does that change everyday like the wiki ?
[17:37] <AlanBell> change isn't bad :)
[17:37] <bobweaver> well not every day  sorry
[17:38] <bobweaver> correct AlanBell  it is not but it makes for hell for devs
[17:39] <AlanBell> yeah, I wouldn't develop for this yet personally
[17:40] <bobweaver> AlanBell,  when I 1st read the Wiki there was no pages at all by canonical art team. But there was things like we need this and we need that. so I made this and that and then this and that got changed which is cool but if you are going to tell the masses to make stuff you might want to tell them that 1) the app is done already
[17:40] <AlanBell> I don't think much is done already
[17:41] <AlanBell> but they might be working on stuff
[17:41] <bobweaver> but you are right AlanBell  One should not dev up apps for this.
[17:41] <mhall119> bobweaver: those don't change often, no
[17:41] <k1l> wasnt it a call for building teams?
[17:41] <AlanBell> so far they have asked people to draw pictures of apps and talk about how they might behave
[17:42] <bobweaver> no no no they asked people to make mockup apps
[17:42] <bobweaver> Fact ^^
[17:42] <AlanBell> and have asked people to play with QML and the platform
[17:42] <bobweaver> the platform was not even around yet at that point
[17:42] <AlanBell> oh, true I couldn't see any point in doing anything before the platform existed though
[17:43] <bobweaver> if we are talking about the platform-api which one can not build because the libs are not open to public
[17:43] <bobweaver> https://launchpad.net/platform-api
[17:44] <AlanBell> personally I am waiting until we know whether an app needs to know how to rotate or adapt to different aspect ratios, and what markets devices will be rolled out in
[17:44] <mhall119> bobweaver: we will fix the problem with those libs not being available, it's an oversight, nothing more
[17:44] <mhall119> be patient and let us correct it
[17:44] <mhall119> please
[17:44] <bobweaver> 2months of patents on my end so far ..... it is making me mad sorry you are right
[17:45] <elsewares> Hello all - I flashed my Nexus 7 with the latest daily, but now all I have is the splash screen - nothing I touch reacts.  Suggestions?
[17:45] <mhall119> bobweaver: you've only been waiting on those libs for a few days
[17:45] <mhall119> elsewares: swipe from the left or right edges towards the center
[17:46] <bobweaver> Oo did you of all people really just say that to me
[17:46] <bobweaver> mhall119,  ^^
[17:46] <bobweaver> do I need to break out the emails ?
[17:47] <mhall119> bobweaver: you've only known that those libs were needed from the time the image was released
[17:47] <bobweaver> that is the stuff that is getting me mad right there. You know how long I have been waiting on this and WHY I am waiting on this
[17:47] <mhall119> bobweaver: we're all on the same team here, we all want the same great things, all I'm asking for is that you let us correct our oversights
[17:47] <bobweaver> maybe because I am the only one that is trying to use the libs
[17:47] <bobweaver> sameteam correct
[17:47] <mhall119> bobweaver: that's likely
[17:48] <mhall119> the SDK doesn't provide them, and you can write apps to a large extent without them
[17:48] <Ben__> hey guys i think im about to try to flash my galaxy nexus to try out this canotical concoction - i do need my phone to be completely operational as is regular so i will want to try it out on my CDMA verizon nexus...
[17:48] <bobweaver> maybe because I am the only oone that is trying to build from scratch ?
[17:48] <bobweaver> or look at bugs and what can be done to fix them
[17:48] <mhall119> bobweaver: I'm sure you are diving to a deeper level than most app developers
[17:48] <Ben__> glad to know your here for when i will need assistance
[17:48] <ErikZZ> Ben__ Good luck. I'm still trying to Root my I515
[17:49] <mhall119> bobweaver: just remember that we want you, as a developer and contributor, to succeed in making awesome things
[17:49] <mhall119> that's in our best interest
[17:49] <bobweaver> mhall119,  you KNOW and have for the last 2 months that I am waiting to port this for TV
[17:49] <mhall119> and we're all working very hard to make that happen
[17:49] <Ben__> =D thanks for the luck man i cant wait, also what guide are you using and what part do you think your stuck at?
[17:49] <ErikZZ> http://androidjinn.com/root-verizon-galaxy-nexus-sch-i515easy-guide.html
[17:49] <ErikZZ> And Windows 7 seems to be having trouble with the USB driver
[17:50] <ogra_> bobweaver, did you already take a look at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-touch-preview and http://phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb ?
[17:50] <ErikZZ> And then lets me open up the device and look at the files anyway
[17:50] <Ben__> is your phone unlocked or locked? as in the bootloader did you do or did you want to do that?
[17:50] <bobweaver> hey ogra_  yeah I was playing with the x11 one but stilll need to add things to my qt libs so that I can use them
[17:50] <ogra_> bobweaver, they are the code trees released together with ubuntu touch
[17:51] <ogra_> and should theoretically contain everything ...
[17:51] <bobweaver> ogra_,  correct but if one trys to build them libs they will run into the same issues that I am having
[17:51] <ogra_> if there is anything missing thats definitely a mistake
[17:51] <bobweaver> ogra_,  http://askubuntu.com/questions/259583/where-to-find-ubuntu-application-and-libhud1-dev
[17:52] <bobweaver> I am missing like 5 major libs
[17:52] <ali1234> well i know where the libhybris repo is
[17:52] <AlanBell> https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/phablet-extras/llibhybris
[17:52] <ogra_> bobweaver, i'm not sure you watched #ubuntu-phone the last days, but i doubt that any of the devs from the project got much sleep or time to look over askubuntu ...
[17:52] <ali1234> phablet-bootstrap checks it out from bzr
[17:52] <ali1234> yep ^
[17:53] <AlanBell> https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/platform-api/trunk
[17:53] <ali1234> is the git server still on fire?
[17:53] <bobweaver> thanks ali1234  Yeah I managed to get that from git
[17:53] <ogra_> for sure
[17:53] <antonio_> Hello, is is possible to test Ubuntu for Tablets on an emulator ?
[17:53] <AlanBell> https://code.launchpad.net/~indicator-applet-developers/libhud-qt/trunk perhaps?
[17:54] <bobweaver> nah noworkie ^^
[17:54] <ogra_> yeah, sounds like
[17:54] <bobweaver> I tried that I also was able to find the Friends lib around that are also
[17:55] <ErikZZ> Ben__ my phone is locked. I'm still working on that.
[17:56] <ali1234> bobweaver: i totally forgot about your QML hangout in all the excitement yesterday :(
[17:58]  * rsalveti waves
[17:59] <ogra_> hey rsalveti
[17:59] <bobweaver> I also have Ubuntu.Browser installed but I can not use it because of missing libs like Ubuntu.Applications  same for gallarey
[17:59] <rsalveti> ogra_: hey!
[17:59] <bobweaver> hello rsalveti
[17:59] <rsalveti> new channel, now we can have the phone and tablet folks at the same place
[17:59] <bobweaver> rsalveti,  do you know where I can find these things ?  http://askubuntu.com/questions/259583/where-to-find-ubuntu-application-and-libhud1-dev
[17:59] <rsalveti> bobweaver: sure, let me check
[18:00] <ErikZZ> Ben__, oh, wait. I didn't think locking would matter. It was a verizon phone, but it's not part of the Verzion anymore. I'm on Sprint now. The phone is wi-fi only now.
[18:00] <bobweaver> thanks dude !
[18:00] <rsalveti> bobweaver: let me reply it there and will ping you back
[18:00]  * bobweaver dances for joy 
[18:01] <ali1234> bobweaver: not sure if you realise this but you totally don't want libhybris if you're not using android underneath your port
[18:02] <ali1234> probably not the platform-api stuff either
[18:02] <bobweaver> ali1234,  I think that it is checked via formfactor I was looking at that code maybe 3 days ago
[18:02] <ali1234> lp:platform-api
[18:02] <bobweaver> I do know that it is a dependent for one or a couple of packages
[18:03] <ali1234> lp:phablet-extras/libhybris
[18:03] <ali1234> ^ these are both used by the android/phablet stuff
[18:03] <Ben__> Hey ErikZZ sorry it took me this long to get back, You are correct that you cannot "Sim unlock the phone" but there are certain benefits and risks involved if you choose to unlock the bootloader before you even root your device
[18:03] <ali1234> bbiab
[18:04] <Ben__> For instance it will initially wipe your device one time and this is a security feature that you are choosing to give up if you so choose
[18:04] <ErikZZ> Ben__ That's fine. This is my old phone for experimenting on. Just got a note 2 as my main phone.
[18:04] <rsalveti> bobweaver: can't login at omg ubuntu, but both branches are available at lp:platform-api (check the android folder there), and lp:hud/phablet for libhud1-dev
[18:05] <ErikZZ> Ben__ The only thing I want to avoid is bricking it. ;-)
[18:05] <rsalveti> *askubuntu
[18:05] <Ben__> Ah okay good right dont we all =P
[18:05] <bobweaver> thanks rsalveti  what about the plugin Ubuntu Applications any ideas ? and again thanks
[18:06] <rsalveti> that's part of the sdk, let me try to find it
[18:06] <bobweaver> thanks again man
[18:07] <ErikZZ> Ben__ I found the XDA forum. I'm going to research that. Looks promising.
[18:07] <Ben__> well if you want to unlock the bootloader check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1400871 and maybe try to start getting familiar with that website
[18:07] <Ben__> hah you were being led there as well
[18:07] <Ben__> very promising =P
[18:08] <ErikZZ> Ben__ what's your goal with your phone?
[18:08] <Ben__> Which phone the one i use daily or the one me and you might be using as a paperweight pretty soon
[18:08] <Ben__> =D
[18:09] <ErikZZ> Ben__ The phone that's too cool to be a paperweight yet. :-)
[18:09] <Ben__> the verizon one -- well we cant really know until we experience it, and I havent gotten the chance to check it out yet and im really excited to see what has been put together
[18:10] <ErikZZ> I want to set up my new Note 2 phone with ubuntu, but I want to learn how everything works and what Ubuntu can actually DO on my old phone first.
[18:11] <ErikZZ> If I can run most of Linux on it, I'm sold.
[18:12] <rsalveti> bobweaver: http://askubuntu.com/questions/259583/where-to-find-ubuntu-application-and-libhud1-dev/260751
[18:12] <flug_> hi evrybody
[18:13] <gianguido> gotta go
[18:13] <gianguido> bye chan
[18:13] <bobweaver> ok rsalveti  I def have the sdk kit installed I am going to boot over to 12.10 and see what I can do. again thanks a bunch
[18:13] <rsalveti> bobweaver: sure
[18:13] <bobweaver> maybe needs to be upgraded but thanks again
[18:16] <Ben__> I will be around later to check this out for real when I have the time, im around, see ya guys
[18:33] <richey> Hey guys. Working on porting this to i9100. Anyone else here doing this as well? I saw that giuanguido was working on the i9300. (SGS3)
[18:35] <stupidwhiz> Hi
[18:36] <stupidwhiz> Just installed the OS on my nexus phone
[18:36] <stupidwhiz> is it possible to change the tz
[18:36] <stupidwhiz> in UI
[18:36] <stupidwhiz> ?
[18:36] <giveen> do we use 'repo sync' to get the latest patches for source? or "phablet-dev-bootstrap" ?
[18:37] <giveen> stupidwhiz
[18:37] <giveen> there is a way to change timezone
[18:37] <giveen> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes
[18:37] <richey> giveen: I've used repo sync but the servers are getting hit hard at the moment. You can update using phab also
[18:37] <richey> phablet-dev-bootstrap -c ./
[18:38] <giveen> thanks, richey. I'm actually able to get source right now, slowly getting on my 7mb line
[18:38] <stupidwhiz> nice thanks..
[18:38] <richey> giveen: np. I've been trying to pull the source down all weekend. Just got it within the last hour. Good luck
[18:39] <giveen> I just decided today to give it a go on my Tegra 2 tablet. Hopefully my kernel likes it.
[18:41] <giveen> THis could go so much faster if we were allowed to copy our cm10.1 source folder over and then sync the diffs
[18:43] <richey> I'm sure there's a reason behind it. I'm not one to say if it would work 100%. It's possible that they are only dummy copies of the original cm code
[18:43] <richey> but cloned so that work can commence on those branches.
[18:43] <datagutt> [19:33:16] <richey>	 Hey guys. Working on porting this to i9100. Anyone else here doing this as well? I saw that giuanguido was working on the i9300. (SGS3)
[18:43] <datagutt> me and gianguido ran into problems
[18:43] <richey> Hey datagutt.
[18:44] <datagutt> the mali graphics driver is linked to libandroid_runtime.so
[18:44] <datagutt> ubuntu touch does not use libandroid_runtime.so
[18:44] <datagutt> so nothing appears on screen
[18:44] <richey> Oh wonderful.
[18:45] <giveen> LOL I hope I don't have such problems.
[18:46] <richey> Due to what I believe to be similar arch between i9100/9300, I#ll probably be on the same boat. datagutt: would you be so kind to pastebin your .repo/manifest.xml?
[18:47] <datagutt> gianguido is the one who built it
[18:47] <datagutt> but i can guide you through any issues
[18:47] <richey> Ah, okay.
[18:48] <richey> I'm usually too stubborn to ask for help.... but I'll let this slide once! Trying something at the moment. If it fails, I'll chime in
[18:49] <rsalveti> datagutt: now why the hell the mali driver would link to libandroid_runtime :-)
[18:49] <rsalveti> makes no sense, probably bad engineering
[18:49] <datagutt> rsalveti: samsung == bad engineering
[18:49] <rsalveti> weird, at all other samsung devices that was fine
[18:50] <datagutt> seems to only happen with exynos4
[18:50] <datagutt> unless you have seen an exynos4 device running ubuntu touch
[18:50] <rsalveti> we could try to either fake that library or get that to build by removing all dependencies
[18:50] <datagutt> yeh
[18:50] <datagutt> i was thinking about that
[18:50] <datagutt> but i don't really have to knowledge
[18:50] <datagutt> have the*
[18:50] <rsalveti> exynos 4... guess not
[18:50] <rsalveti> have just the 10, which is exynos 5
[18:51] <datagutt> Exynos3 uses powervr, so it work
[18:51] <datagutt> works*
[18:51] <richey> Is exynos4 == exynos4210?
[18:51] <rsalveti> yeah
[18:51] <datagutt> exynos4 is both 4210 and 4412
[18:51] <richey> Well that means that I'll bow out on this for tonight
[18:51] <Sinan___> afaik 4412 is s3 and note 2
[18:51] <richey> SGS2 is 4210
[18:52] <rsalveti> yeah, the galaxy tab 2 I got has pvr in it, and it's omap4
[18:52] <datagutt> Sinan___: and meizu mx2
[18:52] <rsalveti> let me check at the build side what would happen if we build the libandroid_runtime
[18:52] <datagutt> but nobody except chinese people have that
[18:52] <Sinan___> lack of source codes makes exynos a pain in ass but this doesn't mean samsung makes bad hardwares
[18:52] <datagutt> rsalveti: it fails
[18:53] <datagutt> but not sure why
[18:53] <Sinan___> samsung is really good at it
[18:53] <datagutt> not only lack of source… samsung makes some really ugly code
[18:53] <datagutt> Why would mali link to libandroid_runtime
[18:53] <Sinan___> samsung is really good at it (I mean hardware)
[18:53] <Ben__> okay so now I am back around and I am ready to try to see if this works - i just backed up my CDMA logs or whatever its called so i can maybe restore it somehow
[18:54] <datagutt> hw yes
[18:54] <Ben__> what do i do and how would i go about beginning to try to flash this OS to a verizon galaxy nexus?
[18:54] <Ben__> i am already bootloader unlocked and am on custom firmware
[18:55] <GalaxyTab> Hi there!
[18:55] <ramblingpirate> Ben, change your build.prop to maguro
[18:56] <GalaxyTab> I am just wondering, when can I expect (if I can expect) Ubuntu touch to be available for my Galaxy Tab?
[18:56] <datagutt> what model of galaxy tab?
[18:56] <rsalveti> datagutt: yeah, makes no sense at all for the driver to want to talk with the jni interface
[18:56] <rsalveti> seems just... wrong :-)
[18:56] <datagutt> rsalveti: samsung probably ran into some issue..
[18:56] <GalaxyTab> datagutt: Galaxy Tab 2 7.0
[18:56] <rsalveti> GalaxyTab: I ported it last thursday to tab 2 7.0, just need to post the instructions and image
[18:57] <GalaxyTab> rsalveti: how is it? does it function well?
[18:57] <rsalveti> yup, this one :-)
[18:57] <datagutt> omap one then
[18:57] <rsalveti> GalaxyTab: yup :-)
[18:57] <GalaxyTab> hmm, will have to try it then!
[18:57] <rsalveti> GalaxyTab: just need to fix the wireless, will try to get to that later today
[18:57] <datagutt> If only i had an omap phone
[18:57] <GalaxyTab> will it work with both wifi and 3g?
[18:57] <rsalveti> datagutt: yeah, omap is good
[18:57] <rsalveti> GalaxyTab: I just have the wifi version
[18:58] <rsalveti> but I don't see why the 3g version wouldn't work
[18:58] <datagutt> except the 3g part
[18:58] <Sinan___> didn't texas left omap ?
[18:58] <rsalveti> even the 3g part, but just for calls and sms
[18:58] <rsalveti> we didn't enable 3g data yet
[18:58] <rsalveti> Sinan___: yup :-(
[18:59] <GalaxyTab> ah, Ok
[18:59] <datagutt> so how easy would it be to use libandroid_runtime without all the dalvik stuff
[18:59] <datagutt> Actually i wonder in what way libandroid_runtime is used
[18:59] <Guest51949> Hello, every Time I tye this command: "phablet-dev-bootstrap xperia/" I get this Error: INFO:phablet-dev-bootstrap:Changing to workdir /home/daniel/xperia INFO:phablet-dev-bootstrap:Initializing repository Get git://phablet.ubuntu.com/CyanogenMod/android.git fatal: Could not read from remote repository.  Please make sure you have the correct access rights and the repository exists. Can soeone confirm this or tell me what I'm 
[18:59] <Sinan___> OMAP was good 4-5 years ago but Texas didn't invest enough money on it and left it behind
[18:59] <datagutt> if we knew what samsung was using it for
[18:59] <GalaxyTab> when will instructions and such be out then?
[19:00] <GalaxyTab> if you have an estimate :)
[19:01] <ali1234> datagutt: i just removed that dependency from SGS and it all worked
 repo is getting hammered. Try later.
[19:03] <rsalveti> crap, my internet connection is really bad today
[19:03] <ali1234> rsalveti: any chance you can remove the sync-j=4 from default manifest temporarily?
[19:03] <ali1234> http://phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb?p=CyanogenMod/android.git;a=blob;f=default.xml;h=a04ef4e119e5cf7b0f8aa755ff3810ad4710b604;hb=38fd77b677eebe415dec4b3c54fe6121c395762e#l17
[19:04] <rsalveti> ali1234: sure, will move to 1 instead
[19:04] <rsalveti> datagutt: yeah, I'm trying to build it here
[19:04] <ali1234> rsalveti: also can i pm you about something?
[19:04] <rsalveti> might fail at runtime still, but it'd goot to test
[19:04] <rsalveti> ali1234: sure
[19:07] <randomblame> weird
[19:07] <randomblame>  exec '/system/bin/sh' failed: No such file or directory
[19:08] <chrtr> Does it fail to connect to radius secured networks for anyone else?
[19:08] <rsalveti> ali1234: -j 1 is now the default
[19:09] <randomblame> it's like it's not mounting /system
[19:11] <ali1234> rsalveti: thanks, that should help everyone trying to sync
[19:11] <rsalveti> yeah
[19:11] <rsalveti> at least when running the script that should get less connections
[19:11] <rsalveti> which will help a lot I guess
[19:12] <rsalveti> let me check how many connections we currently have at the server side
[19:12] <rsalveti> 148 in parallel atm
[19:12] <rsalveti> was over 500 2 days ago
[19:12] <rsalveti> :-)
[19:15] <Art-X> hehe more interested in the traffic for the last few days ;-)
[19:16] <rsalveti> yeah, will try to get that info tomorrow hehe :-)
[19:17] <Art-X> I have a feeling I'll be a record for the develop servers
[19:17] <bobweaver> dear rsalveti  ...... You are AWESOME  thanks again for the Help http://imagebin.org/247981
[19:17] <Art-X> it'll *
[19:18] <rsalveti> bobweaver: lol
[19:19] <Art-X> bobweaver, lol... BOFH to the core
[19:21] <bobweaver> I think that I still have to get some newer julius libs and also backport gtester2xunit  and pyruntest and for Some Reason Ubuntu.Application is still messing up maybe that is not correct import path. I am going to look now but thanks again
[19:21] <bobweaver> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5562586/
[19:23] <rsalveti> datagutt: the reason we don't have libandroid_runtime is that it brings dalvik with it
[19:23] <rsalveti> this is messy
[19:23] <rsalveti> so it'd be nice to try to dump the symbols and try to find what from libandroid_runtime the lib is using afterall
[19:24] <rsalveti> so we can have some sort of fakelibrary just to satisfy the linker
[19:24] <rsalveti> whatever it is doing with it is not going to work for us anyway
[19:26] <randomblame> this is odd as hell I get no boot adb only returns exec '/system/bin/sh' failed: no such file or directory I just copied mksh to /system/bin in the ramdisk and made sure it was executable and I still get that error
[19:26] <bobweaver> bad news it is not in my Plugins here is a list of sdk and qt stuff  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5562604/
[19:26] <randomblame> I figured it was a mounting issue but if it doesn't see it in rd then I'm at a loss
[19:26] <duce> PORT ALL DA TINGZ \:D/
[19:27] <xsoh> any news about n7 3g version (tilapia)?
[19:28] <Art-X> Lloir, did u get it working for the hox+ ?
[19:29] <Lloir> no, taking a break for a few hours
[19:29] <Art-X> well deserved  :-)
[19:29] <Hashcode> Anyone working with a device using ro.sf.hwrotation?
[19:30] <randomblame> I thought rotation wasn't set up at all yet
[19:30] <Hashcode> This isn't for sensors
[19:30] <Hashcode> it's for initial display setup
[19:31] <Hashcode> I have several devices which need to be rotated by surfaceflinger as the default
[19:31] <randomblame> ah
[19:31] <Hashcode> Works in CM10.1 but not in the touch preview
[19:31] <Hashcode> I guess I need to know more about how it interacts w/ surfaceflinger for display
[19:32] <giveen> egad, Hashcode, lol
[19:32] <Hashcode> hello :0
[19:33] <giveen> Love your work :)
[19:35] <Hashcode> thanks
[19:37] <giveen> Just wish Motorola would unlock my Droid X :(
[19:38] <rsalveti> Hashcode: yeah, I would not use that flag for now, ideally we'd have rotation support at the shell itself
[19:38] <rsalveti> which is still a work in progress afaik
[19:38] <Hashcode> rsalveti: I can try a build w/o it and see what happens.
[19:39] <giveen> Man these servers are slammed. :( Lots of failures
[19:39] <Hashcode> Normally the display is 270 degrees off by default
[19:39] <rsalveti> Hashcode: yeah
[19:39] <rsalveti> Hashcode: for my galaxy tab 2 I had to disable that
[19:41] <bmwracer0> giveen: yeah i know :(
[19:42] <giveen> If the Nexus S can handle at minimum ICS, then so can the DX
[19:51] <helicopter88> I'm looking into building the ubuntu part of ubuntu touch,I tried using pbuilder-dist quantal armhf create,but I get a failed to chroot,any tip?
[19:53] <Hashcode> rsalveti: so that definitely fixes display, but how are you fixing touch ?
[19:53] <rsalveti> Hashcode: where do you usually change the input orientation? need to take a look here
[19:53] <stupidwhiz> How can I remove the no-functional applications
[19:53] <Hashcode> oh
[19:54] <Hashcode> usr/idc/*?
[19:54] <stupidwhiz> like facebook etc
[19:54] <Hashcode> rsalveti: did you have to do something similar to the tab 2?
[19:54] <rsalveti> Hashcode: yup, just trying to remember
[19:54] <helicopter88> I'd need to shrink a bit ubuntu,as it doesn't fit my (about) 1gb partition
[19:55] <Hashcode> no worries, I'll take a look at the .idc file layout and see if it gives me a rotation adjustment option
[19:55] <helicopter88> Hashcode, to what device are you porting?
[19:56] <ali1234> helicopter88: do you have enough disk space to build chroot? (for pbuilder)
[19:56] <Hashcode> Kindle Fire
[19:56] <Hashcode> (s)
[19:56] <helicopter88> ali1234, I'm on a empty 50 gb vbox
[19:56] <helicopter88> running xubuntu 32 bit
[19:56] <helicopter88> (I can switch to 64 bit)
[19:57] <Hashcode> Motorola D3/Bionic/Razr's and D4 will be next for the preview
[19:57] <ali1234> helicopter88: do you have qemu installed in vm?
[19:57] <randomblame> woot getting places now
[19:57] <helicopter88> ali1234, what's package name? qemu?
[19:58] <ali1234> helicopter88: dunno which one if any it needs
[19:58] <helicopter88> ali1234, if it matters,running pbuilder --debootstrapopts --arch armhf made something
[19:58] <helicopter88> and chrooted fine
[19:59] <futa> hey guys
[19:59] <futa> I can only use QML to develop apps for touch devices, and use only quickly to develop ubuntu apps, but as they say
[19:59] <datagutt> rsalveti: Yeah seems we must have a fake library
[19:59] <futa>  the code is shared
[19:59] <helicopter88> ali1234, qemu is there
[20:00] <futa> how is that possible
[20:02] <futa> can anyone answer my question?
[20:04] <giveen> SIgh, try number 78 to sync, lol
[20:05] <rsalveti> Hashcode: iirc at the g tab I had to change the kernel, as that was a consequence of the latest kernel update
[20:05] <rsalveti> guess it had pivot = true
[20:06] <Hashcode> Ah
[20:06] <rsalveti> so it's probably hardware specific (could be idc or could be at the touch controller as well)
[20:06] <Hashcode> So just adjust for it in the kernel driver
[20:06] <Hashcode> That's doable.. I assume you're in default landscape then now?
[20:06] <rsalveti> yup
[20:06] <stupidwhiz> Hi, sry i've to repeat the question....how can I remove the apps that I do not want?
[20:06] <Hashcode> This may be a dump question
[20:06] <Hashcode> How do I set: GRID_UNIT_PX and QTWEBKIT_DPR
[20:07] <Hashcode> Is that an export? or a build.prop? or something else
[20:07] <randomblame> removing /data from fstab like the port guide says to do means that /data isn't mounted. installd is crashing because it's not finding anything in /data which is halting the system
[20:09] <randomblame> any thoughts?
[20:10] <rob_w> then dont remove it
[20:10] <helicopter88> ali1234, it was a missing package probably
[20:15] <ali1234> randomblame: where does it say remove it in porting guide? it says remove nosuid flag...
[20:20] <randomblame> oh it came across to me as remove the entire /data line I thought that didn't make any damned sense
[20:30] <giveen> randomblame, i don't see the port guy saying to remove /data
[20:30] <giveen> guide*
[20:31] <ali1234> giveen: yes, yes, we've been through that :)
[20:31] <giveen> LOL
[20:31] <giveen> sorry i'm a bit late to the conversation
[20:31] <giveen> I check in on here every now and then
[20:32] <Tigrouzen> updating to raring installing gnoem-shell ^^
[20:33] <Wuestenschiff> Tigrouzen: gnome would be nice
[20:34] <Tigrouzen> i hope they make smaller rom but like bigger then usb live !!!
[20:38] <Tigrouzen> ubuntu for phone need doubel core incredible !!!!
[20:39] <Tigrouzen> use more memory then gnome 3 on desktop
[20:39] <Tigrouzen> what's mistake this is ????
[20:40] <helicopter88_2> Tigrouzen, you're free to port ubuntu to a single core phone
[20:40] <helicopter88_2> but remind that old arm cpus are much less powerful than x86
[20:41] <Tigrouzen> helicopter88_2, i mean i dont understand why Ubuntu for computer use less memory then phone and why need like dual core cpu for ubuntu touch
[20:41] <Tigrouzen> helicopter88_2, in the theory 800*480 use less cpu and memory (gpu+mem)
[20:42] <Tigrouzen> helicopter88_2, Arm slower Then X86 at same configuration
[20:44] <ali1234> Tigrouzen: ubuntu touch runs smooth on SGS as long as you don't load too many apps. memory is the problem, not cpu imo
[20:44] <ali1234> i don't know why it uses so much, hopefully it can be improved
[20:45] <giveen> Anyone seen hows it running on Tegra 2?
[20:45] <Tigrouzen> ali1234, did you make video ?
[20:46] <randomblame> viola
[20:46] <randomblame> it's running on my iconia a500
[20:46] <ali1234> Tigrouzen: yes
[20:46] <Tigrouzen> ali1234, because in Wave its run but verry verry slow on browser and crash many time
[20:46] <ali1234> Tigrouzen: https://plus.google.com/u/0/117474986382867317779/posts/XNRMvFJCBzt
[20:47] <ali1234> basically loading any app makes it go slow
[20:47] <ali1234> but... the apps run fast once it stops swapping
[20:48] <ali1234> browser is usable and does not seem to crash
[20:48] <Tigrouzen> yes i moved swap to zram
[20:49] <Thund3rChilD> randomblame, is the install smooth ? i have a 501a im looking forward to run it
[20:49] <helicopter88_2> ali1234, if you ever built,would armel be smaller?
[20:50] <ali1234> helicopter88_2: probably not
[20:50] <randomblame> no
[20:50] <randomblame> not very
[20:50] <randomblame> :P
[20:50] <helicopter88_2> dang
[20:50] <Thund3rChilD> figurs hehe , but doable ? or do i need a huge set of instructions?
[20:51] <randomblame> I'm still figuring it out
[20:51] <Thund3rChilD> i wait then till you got things coverd :)
[20:51] <Tigrouzen> for the moment about this rom we can win 400mo and more
[20:52] <helicopter88_2> "fetched 11.8 mb in 4min 25s"
[20:52] <netcurli> someone here who can help me with this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/259510/problem-with-svg-image-in-qml ?
[20:57] <dexyne> hello
[20:58] <dexyne> I need some help, I try to install Ubuntu on my Galaxy Nexus but on the step 4 I have the "black screen" problem.
[20:58] <dexyne> But where is the /data partition ?
[20:59] <ali1234> dexyne: it's on your phone?
[21:00] <ali1234> dexyne: what has probably happened is you didn't have enough space on /data and so flash failed
[21:00] <dexyne> And how I wipe it on my computer ?
[21:00] <n0gz> do you know how to wipe the partition in recovery?
[21:00] <dexyne> nope
[21:00] <Tigrouzen> also you can make script to install it on sdcard partitioned of course
[21:01] <ali1234> what you can do is format /data from recovery and then flash the quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip again
[21:03] <n0gz> dexyne: turn your phone off. Then hold volume up and volume down then hold the power until you get to a screen that looks like the android guy turned over on his side with his guts hanging out
[21:03] <habstinat> I just made a little bash script to randomly shuffle and play music in ~/Music in the background that you can trigger on and off by setting the volume to max or less than max on the phone, respectively
[21:03] <habstinat> I'll put it on my website and give a link to it here soon
[21:04] <dexyne> yeah I try it but no recovery mode start :/
[21:05] <n0gz> go to xda-developers.com and then the forums and then find galaxy nexus. look under android development and find out how to flash a custom recovery such as CWM or TWRP
[21:07] <Sinan___> dexyne: n0gz: actually it's just power+ volume up
[21:07] <dexyne> I've use adb reboot bootloader command
[21:07] <Sinan___> yeah that works too
[21:07] <dexyne> black screen block the boot/reboot
[21:07] <helicopter88_2> ali1234, it made the chroot environment on my pc,but still,when I run pbuilder-dist quantal armhf build happyhello_0.1.dc I get an error about the dsc file not existing
[21:08] <w00tc0d3> did ubuntu phone project modify the /sbin/init INSIDE the chroot?
[21:08] <ali1234> helicopter88_2: well you have to get the dsc yourself...
[21:08] <Sinan___> adb reboot recovery
[21:08] <ali1234> helicopter88_2: i'm not really familiar with pbuilder
[21:08] <Sinan___> dexyne: adb reboot recovery
[21:09] <helicopter88_2> ali1234, yea,I'm more used to make
[21:09] <helicopter88_2> do you know where I can find this dsc?
[21:09] <ali1234> helicopter88_2: dsc files are part of debian packaging. normally you have a dsc, tar.gz, and diff.gz which together builds a package
[21:09] <ali1234> if you do "apt-get source <package>" you will get those files in current dir
[21:09] <ali1234> it will also unpack them for you but i guess you don't need that
[21:11]  * helicopter88_2 guesses about the name of the package
[21:23] <Tigrouzen> some one know phablet password ?
[21:23] <Tigrouzen> phablet user
[21:25] <k1l_> ubuntu, ubuntu ?
[21:25] <w00tc0d3> what are the repositories changed for Ubuntu Phone?
[21:25] <w00tc0d3> i wonder how they used Android EGL libs with X11
[21:28] <habstinat> Just made this: <http://habs.name/ubuntu-touch/> Can someone please test it out and report whether or not it works for you before I share it with reddit?
[21:29] <ax562> what is it/
[21:29] <ax562> ?
[21:30] <habstinat> ax562: It shuffles and plays your music in ~/Music in the background. You can turn it on and off from the phone.
[21:31] <ax562> seen that nice
[21:31] <ax562> does the ubuntu music player only support mono for now?
[21:36] <ax562> so is ubuntu touch a big let down or something promising with potential?
[21:39] <bjaanes> something promising with potential of course
[21:40] <RotZ> Hello, has anybody got the Ubuntu Touch preview working on Nexus S?
[21:41] <bjaanes> I think so, looks like it at least: https://plus.google.com/u/0/117474986382867317779/posts/XNRMvFJCBzt
[21:42] <RotZ> Found a video on YT, there's no details of how he got it running tho.
[21:42] <RotZ> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8W3HuyCUC4g
[21:42] <habstinat> Sorry guys, but the instructions should be good now; I've been revising them bit by bit
[21:43] <bjaanes> Where there not instructions in the link I posted? :P
[21:43] <Dave_the_Knave> If this flash goes well, Ubuntu Touch will be running on the d2att
[21:43] <RotZ> Reading it right now.
[21:43] <bjaanes> Were*
[21:43] <Dave_the_Knave> *crosses fingers*
[21:45] <Dave_the_Knave> No-go. Booted right back into recovery
[21:46] <habstinat> bjaanes: Haha, I meant the instructions to install my hackish music shuffler: <http://habs.name/ubuntu-touch/>
[21:47] <RotZ> Link doesn't work.
[21:47] <ax562> habstinat...you thought of taking the second while volume = 10 out so the user can turn the volume down?
[21:48] <habstinat> RotZ: You might have left the ending pacman in; that's not supposed to be part of the link; it's http://habs.name/ubuntu-touch/
[21:48] <ax562> @bj yeah but an android base is kind of funky.  I thought it was trying to distinguish from android not build on top of it.
[21:48] <RotZ> Ah there we go.
[21:48] <RotZ> Thanks.
[21:49] <ax562> I was really excited but not so much anymore.
[21:50] <habstinat> ax562: The user /can/ turn the volume down; the double loops were mostly done to make the /tmp/music-is-playing file work out
[21:50] <ax562> I'm running android and ubuntu simultaneously now (maverick) so not sure what touch could do that I cant right now.
[21:51] <ax562> yeah but if thy did they lose shuffle though right?
[21:51] <ax562> webtop 1.3 motorola
[21:53] <ax562> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1837823
[21:53] <RotZ> Is it easy for the average Joe to port Ubuntu Touch to a device?
[21:54] <ax562> that's a thread I started a while back that shows my setup...
[21:54] <ax562> Android GB running alongside xubuntu 10.10
[21:54] <Dave_the_Knave> @RotZ, I thought it would be, but even I'm having issues. I must have messed up somewhere along the process
[21:55] <RotZ> Oh.
[21:56] <k1l_> 10.10 is not supported since ages
[21:56] <Dave_the_Knave> I'm going to go back to "Enabling a new device" and start from there
[21:57] <RotZ> I found a port to the Nexus S on XDA..
[21:57] <RotZ> :)
[21:57] <Dave_the_Knave> Nobody has one for d2att on XDA yet.
[21:58] <Dave_the_Knave> Wish they did. I don't wanna do this anymore xD
[21:58] <ax562> 10.10 is the only supported ubuntu version on webtop
[21:58] <RotZ> I'd love to see this ported on a Nokia N9.
[21:58] <k1l_> ax562: so you see the problem?
[21:59] <ax562> propriatary moto drivers needed to work simultaneously with android in real time were only compiled for 10.10
[21:59] <ax562> no upgrade possible :(
[22:00] <ax562> yeah that's why I was giggling like a school girl when I found out about ubuntu OS/touch...
[22:00] <ax562> but now, no more giggles.
[22:00] <RotZ> Rofl.
[22:21] <DAMOND> hei
[22:21] <tradpal> any chance i can install ubuntu os on unsupported devices ?
[22:21] <DAMOND> i have a question
[22:21] <Tigrouzen> ^^
[22:21] <Tigrouzen> tradpal, what's your model hardware ?
[22:21] <DAMOND> please
[22:22] <DAMOND> one answare
[22:22] <tradpal> its zync z930
[22:23] <DAMOND> u can help pe?
[22:23] <DAMOND> me?
[22:23] <DAMOND> please
[22:23] <Tigrouzen> tradpal, if CM10.1 rom exist for your device then yes its possible porting
[22:23] <dexyne> finally....I have wipe the /data but nothing, always the  "black screen"...
[22:24] <tradpal> tigrouzen, its zync z930, a cheaper china model
[22:24] <DAMOND> can help me'
[22:24] <Tigrouzen> tradpal, its depending chipset
[22:24] <tradpal> tigrouzen, thanks  i ll check it and let you know
[22:24] <DAMOND> ?
[22:24] <Tigrouzen> DAMOND, if you dont ask we dont know your answer
[22:25] <DAMOND> for updates
[22:25] <DAMOND> ?
[22:25] <DAMOND> i dont understand
[22:25] <Tigrouzen> What is the question ?^^
[22:25] <k1l_> DAMOND: how should one answer if you never ask anything specific?
[22:25] <k1l_> !ask | DAMOND
[22:25] <Tigrouzen> ^^
[22:26] <DAMOND> i don't konw of do updates
[22:27] <Tigrouzen> omg ^^
[22:27] <DAMOND> yes
[22:27] <DAMOND> because apt
[22:27] <Tigrouzen> you want update on ubuntu phone ?
[22:27] <DAMOND> only for app
[22:27] <k1l_> DAMOND: dont press enter all the time. :/
[22:28] <Tigrouzen> make your question some sens then ask
[22:28] <DAMOND> yes
[22:28] <DAMOND> i want a update
[22:29] <ax562> sounds like he thinks he can update using apt-get on the dev release of ubuntu touch
[22:29] <Tigrouzen> yes sure ^^
[22:29] <ax562> not likely Damond
[22:29] <DAMOND> no
[22:29] <DAMOND> apt-get
[22:29] <Tigrouzen> but DAMOND dont try update it can be break ubuntu
[22:29] <Tigrouzen> ubuntu touch
[22:30] <DAMOND> i have a my kernel and
[22:30] <DAMOND> works headphones
[22:31] <DAMOND> im not a stupid
[22:31] <DAMOND> but i don't understand the ubdates
[22:31] <DAMOND> updates
[22:31] <Tigrouzen> we dont say you're stupid but you dont ask right way
[22:32] <Tigrouzen> ubuntu touch not have update for the moment
[22:32] <DAMOND> i don't speak english wery well
[22:32] <Tigrouzen> you can upgrade to raring but make mistake
[22:32] <DAMOND> sorry all
[22:32] <DAMOND> tigrouzen thx i understand
[22:33] <Tigrouzen> DAMOND, use google translate ;)
[22:33] <randomblame> is there a different package for tablet layout or am I doing it wrong
[22:33] <Tigrouzen> just in ubuntu-session
[22:33] <DAMOND> XD is true!
[22:34] <DAMOND> i have a kernel of francisco.franco
[22:34] <DAMOND> readapded
[22:34] <Tigrouzen> u can modify it to boot like tablet or phone
[22:34] <tradpal> tigrouzen, it seems, i can install cm10.1 on z930. if i am successful, can you tell me, how to install ubuntu., thank you
[22:34] <Tigrouzen> then
[22:34] <Tigrouzen> tradpal
[22:34] <Tigrouzen> tradpal, you need compile it
[22:35] <Tigrouzen> tradpal, first u need ubuntu 64 then phablet-tools
[22:35] <Tigrouzen> tradpal, many time
[22:36] <Tigrouzen> tradpal, you dont need flash CM10.1 rom
[22:36] <tradpal> tigrouzen, any specific changes to source, before compiling ?
[22:36] <Tigrouzen> tradpal, yes try to find source git CM10.1 for z930
[22:40] <tradpal> ok, thank you tigrouzen, i ll try it.
[22:42] <BenLue> Hello ppls
[22:43] <BenLue> Is Ubuntu Touch working with HTC DHD?
[22:44] <randomblame> thanks tigrouzen found it :D
[22:44] <Tigrouzen> ;)
[22:45] <randomblame> any guidelines on these values
[22:45] <Tigrouzen> maybe it can be help for some
[22:46] <Tigrouzen> first ive installed rom cm10 then i dont erase data folder but just push armfl zip with recovery mode and now i formated data and repushed again ubuntu wont work
[22:47] <Tigrouzen> just formated system for pushing ubuntu cm10.1 rom
[22:48] <Tigrouzen> then ubuntu need somethiing from original rom on data to boot right
[22:49] <drap> hi all, by starting ubuntu-session i get error: ASSERT: "eglBindAPI(EGL_OPENGL_ES_API) == EGL_TRUE" in file screen.cc, line 73, my phone runnung Exynos 4412 GPU mali400, rom based on cm-10.1, any suggestions?
[22:59] <ThunderX> Any tutorials available on how to start developing for that platform?
[23:00] <k1l_> ThunderX: you saw the links in the topic?
[23:01] <ThunderX> Are you refering to the Porting Guide?<
[23:01] <giveen> drap, i think earlier were talking about mali chips
[23:01] <giveen> how they need libandroid_runtime.so or something
[23:01] <ThunderX> I did install the OS on my phone: I was looking for an IDE to start exploring
[23:03] <ThunderX> Yes thanks the thrid link seems to be pointing me in the right direction
[23:04] <Tigrouzen> randomblame, 480*800 "10"
[23:09] <SonikkuAmerica> No Transformer Prime port? (Or just yet?)
[23:10] <Oniz> SonikkuAmerica: it supports CM10.1?
[23:10] <SonikkuAmerica> CM10 is being worked on for it...
[23:10] <Oniz> so is unofficial?
[23:11] <SonikkuAmerica> Official nightlies... I guess we'll need to see an official release of CM10 first... :(
[23:11] <Oniz> At the moment idk if ubuntu can be ported
[23:12] <Oniz> it's TF201 right?
[23:12] <SonikkuAmerica> Yep
[23:12] <SonikkuAmerica> It doesn't work (yet)
[23:12] <SonikkuAmerica> I tried the flash; it said "unsupported device"
[23:13] <ThunderX> Does someone else has a problem listing a Samsung Galaxy with the adb devices command on a 64 bit Ubuntu 12.04 installed on a Macbook Pro?
[23:13] <ThunderX> The plugged in Samsung Galaxy device never gets listed
[23:14] <Tigrouzen> lsusb ?
[23:14] <dank101> Now im in the right chan
[23:16] <SonikkuAmerica> TF201 has been supported for CM since 9.0
[23:16] <Tigrouzen> ThunderX, udev ?
[23:16] <Xiao-Long> Does anyone know where the packaging for the Ubuntu Touch libraries are? The indicator stuff is available on Launchpad, but what about the phablet versions of julius, pocketsphinx, etc?
[23:16] <ThunderX> lsusb doesn't seem to be listing my Samsung Galaxy
[23:16] <Tigrouzen> ah
[23:17] <Tigrouzen> boot on ubuntu touch ?
[23:17] <Oniz> SonikkuAmerica: if they build nightly they support the last nightly build
[23:17] <Oniz> so it's officially supported CM10
[23:18] <SonikkuAmerica> Unfortunately nightlies are released every week.
[23:18] <Tigrouzen> ThunderX, ubuntu boot right ?
[23:18] <rymate1234> ...not very nightly then
[23:18] <dank101> XD
[23:18] <ThunderX> Yes
[23:18] <Oniz> seems that they don't works a lot on that device
[23:18] <ThunderX> SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTRS{idVendor}=="18d1", ATTRS{idProduct}=="4e30", MODE="0777", SYMLINK+="gtab"
[23:19] <ThunderX> for udev rule
[23:19] <Tigrouzen> ThunderX, On Android rom same issue ?
[23:19] <ThunderX> Yes
[23:19] <Tigrouzen> then its usb issue...
[23:19] <giveen> Been trying to get source all day....still nto completely synced :(
[23:20] <bmwracer0> same
[23:20] <ThunderX> I was only able to see the device when I did run fastboot while having my device started in the bootloader
[23:20] <ThunderX> Once Android did start my device was never listed by lsusb command
[23:20] <Tigrouzen> there's 2 Idproduct
[23:21] <SonikkuAmerica> Oniz: I think the only issue that's left is getting the GPS dongle to work in CM10.1
[23:21] <Tigrouzen> when you plugit and when you active adb debug
[23:22] <dexyne> YEAH! Ubuntu you are mine !! Thanks for everyone to helper :) (finally I have restore my Android version - full reset - and try again the processus)
[23:22] <ThunderX> so I did download the roms using my Chrome browser in Android and installed them directly from the phone itself. I was unable to run phablet-flash or adb since the device is not listed :(
[23:22] <dexyne> help me*
[23:23] <Tigrouzen> SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", ATTRS{idVendor}=="18d1", ATTRS{idProduct}=="4e21", MODE="0666" #Normal
[23:23] <Tigrouzen> SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", ATTRS{idVendor}=="18d1", ATTRS{idProduct}=="4e22", MODE="0666" #ADB
[23:23] <mcfly_> hi all, i'm trying to run brunch and i can't get it to recognize my new set of make files.
[23:23] <ThunderX> Tigrouzen K let me try that format
[23:24] <Tigrouzen> of course you idproduct different
[23:27] <ThunderX> adb devices List of devices attached (NOTHING)
[23:27] <Tigrouzen> lsusb
[23:27] <Tigrouzen> past
[23:28] <ThunderX> Of course I did restart the adb service<
[23:29] <ThunderX> lsusb Bus 002 Device 002: ID 05ac:8502 Apple, Inc. Built-in iSight Bus 003 Device 002: ID 0a5c:4500 Broadcom Corp. BCM2046B1 USB 2.0 Hub (part of BCM2046 Bluetooth) Bus 007 Device 002: ID 05ac:8242 Apple, Inc. IR Receiver [built-in] Bus 007 Device 003: ID 05ac:0231 Apple, Inc. Internal Keyboard/Trackpad (MacBook Pro 4,1) (ISO) Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linu
[23:29] <ThunderX> No Samsung Device listed there
[23:29] <Tigrouzen> maybe its an rom problem
[23:30] <Tigrouzen> if its not enumarated on usb.rc then he cant found it
[23:30] <krabador> hi people, can you tell me what cyanogenmod 10.1 sources are needed to build ubuntu touch?
[23:30] <Tigrouzen> krabador, you just need phablet
[23:30] <Tigrouzen> phablet-tools
[23:31] <krabador> ok
[23:31] <ThunderX> Yes Tigrouzen you are right
[23:31] <ThunderX> ==> /var/log/syslog <== Feb 24 18:30:59 adil-MacBookPro kernel: [41120.612114] hub 2-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1
[23:32] <Tigrouzen> ThunderX, compiled yourself ?
[23:32] <mainerror> huh, that's funny. The Ubuntu SDK installed without any errors on raring BUT QtQuick 2 is missing in the templates. :/
[23:32] <ThunderX> Is there some sort of workaround? It is weird since fastboot seemed to detect my device: I was able to unlock it that way
[23:33] <murdok> Hello, i cannot install android in my galaxy nexus, i installed ubuntu touch and now i dont have ubuntu and android
[23:33] <ThunderX> No I have downloaded the packages from a repo as instructed
[23:33] <Tigrouzen> k
[23:33] <Tigrouzen> we need extract kernel just if you can send me boot.img
[23:33] <Tigrouzen> i can look at
[23:34] <Tigrouzen> or link for boot.img for ubuntu ;)
[23:34] <ThunderX> I think I'm gonna install Ubuntu in Parallel on my other partition (Mac OS) and I'll try to see how the VM deals with the USB ports
[23:34] <Tigrouzen> ah your an on vm ?
[23:34] <ThunderX> No dual boot
[23:34] <Tigrouzen> k
[23:35] <Tigrouzen> gtab its galaxy tab what's name mugaro, tuna... ?
[23:36] <murdok> tuna
[23:36] <Tigrouzen> tks
[23:37] <murdok> how can i restore android after install ubuntu touch ?
[23:37] <mcfly_> i'm trying to run brunch with my new files for the tf101
[23:37] <Dave_the_Knave> Reboot into recovery, wipe all the thing and restore
[23:37] <mcfly_> and cannot get brunch to recognize my new set of makefiles.
[23:37] <mcfly_> any ideas?
[23:37] <murdok> ok ty
[23:38] <ThunderX> Tuna / Maguro
[23:39] <ThunderX> Murdok check the Restore Android section under https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[23:40] <Tigrouzen> Ubuntu core like 34mo ;)
[23:40] <Tigrouzen> for Arm
[23:40] <mcfly_> no ideas on why the brunch option isn't showing up?
[23:41] <ThunderX> How often will there be abuild pushed to http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/quantal/mwc-demo/ ?
[23:41] <ThunderX> what is the planned release frequency?
[23:41] <murdok> ok thunder  ...
[23:41] <hevymetaldan> I'm not asking for a date, just an intention... Is there a plan to support CDMA?? I failed to install ubuntu phone because I have a toro...
[23:42] <mainerror> Mhmm. I can't seem to find the reason for the missing QtQuick 2 templates
[23:42] <dank101> Dave_the_Knave, i think i got the ROM working
[23:42] <dank101> Dave_the_Knave, just need a test
[23:42] <Dave_the_Knave> What'd you change? I saw that old link you posted
[23:42] <Tigrouzen> lol
[23:42] <loper> Hey guys! Sorry about probably stupid question, anyway: I've read about Ubuntu for tablets developer's preview. Any ideas when things will be done for release or.. beta.. you know? Like a moment, when apps from "Ubuntu for ARM" will be working?
[23:42] <Tigrouzen> Maguro boot.img its grouper boot.img
[23:43] <loper> or they are already working...
[23:43] <Tigrouzen> Grouper same Maguro ?
[23:43] <hevymetaldan> I would try the version on XDA for CDMA devices, but the lack of data makes it a no-go, the app I'm working on requires it...
[23:43] <dank101> Dave_the_Knave, deleted some stuff fixed updater script and fix the partitions just need a test
[23:44] <Tigrouzen> ThunderX,
[23:44] <dank101> Dave_the_Knave, please test it
[23:44] <Dave_the_Knave> dank101, link me
[23:44] <dank101> Dave_the_Knave, dropped my phone and screen is cracked
[23:45] <Tigrouzen> ThunderX, try 4e41 4e42 4e43
[23:45] <Tigrouzen> on idproduct
[23:45] <Tigrouzen> ThunderX, dont forget restart udev
[23:45] <thththeaddd> i have a problem with porting ubuntu.touch. i added my device (htc pyramid) in the manifest.xml and tried a "repo sync" but it says "fatal: Couldn't find remote ref refs/heads/cm-10.1"
[23:46] <ThunderX> Thanks Tigrouzen
[23:46] <Tigrouzen> ThunderX, sudo restart udev
[23:46] <ThunderX> Are those variables important for udev ? OWNER="root",GROUP="myUser", SYMLINK+="android%n"
[23:46] <Tigrouzen> no
[23:47] <Tigrouzen> ThunderX, did you try other usb port ?
[23:47] <dank101> Dave_the_Knave, internets being slow D: wait a bit
[23:47] <Dave_the_Knave> dank101, Alright
[23:48] <Tigrouzen> Because on lsusb you must be see it
[23:48] <ThunderX> Tigrouzen, yes Id did and unfortunately same error message but with a different port of course
[23:48] <dank101> it's big
[23:49] <Tigrouzen> And on other computer on Windows ?
[23:49] <Tigrouzen> Or on Mac ?
[23:49] <ThunderX> I'll try it tomorrow on another laptop (Dell)
[23:50] <Tigrouzen> If its same issue then its mean or your cable its bad or your usb port on phone some prob
[23:50] <Tigrouzen> k
[23:50] <ThunderX> It seems that this issue seems to be related with my Macbook Pro
[23:50] <dank101> i need a fast host.
[23:50] <ThunderX> YEs thanks for the tips
[23:50] <Tigrouzen> different cable ?
[23:50] <dank101> anyone here with a fast ROM host
[23:50] <ThunderX> I did try that as well
[23:50] <Dave_the_Knave> dank101, You've got about a 20 minute window that I can use to test. Is that enough
[23:51] <ThunderX> Keep it going guys!
[23:51] <dank101> Dave_the_Knave, nope
[23:51] <thththeaddd> i have a problem with porting ubuntu-touch. i added my device (htc pyramid) in the manifest.xml and tried a "repo sync" but it says "fatal: Couldn't find remote ref refs/heads/cm-10.1" does anyone know how to find out the correct ref?
[23:51] <Tigrouzen> past your manifest
[23:51] <Tigrouzen> thththeaddd,
[23:52] <Tigrouzen> past bin ;)
[23:53] <thththeaddd> http://pastebin.com/3dquHLtA
[23:53] <thththeaddd> i added the last 2 lines
[23:54] <thththeaddd> oh wait
[23:54] <thththeaddd> http://pastebin.com/GawR7bQW
[23:54] <Tigrouzen> thththeaddd, first remove all other to win 6hours ^^
[23:55] <Tigrouzen> remove mugaro tuna grouper.....
[23:55] <thththeaddd> k
[23:56] <Tigrouzen> thththeaddd, ok
[23:57] <thththeaddd> but it doesn't change anything
[23:57] <thththeaddd> still: "fatal: Couldn't find remote ref refs/heads/cm-10.1"
[23:57] <Tigrouzen> android_device_samsung_msm8960-common
[23:58] <Tigrouzen> oops wait
[23:59] <Tigrouzen> thththeaddd,  android_device_htc_msm8960-common
[23:59] <Tigrouzen> its better ;)
[23:59] <Tigrouzen> for device ;)
[23:59] <thththeaddd> but the wiki says 8660