| Squirm | morning | 10:07 |
|---|---|---|
| Squirm | uh, afternoon | 10:08 |
| Vince-0 | yar | 10:10 |
| kbmonkey | hello | 11:53 |
| Squirm | hi | 11:58 |
| Vince-0 | haai | 13:03 |
| kbmonkey | how goes it all? | 13:06 |
| Vince-0 | same shizl | 13:17 |
| kbmonkey | ma nizzle | 13:18 |
| kbmonkey | discovering how to adjust pygame surface hue's. fun stuff. | 13:18 |
| Vince-0 | I stripped my asus transformer tab | 13:24 |
| Vince-0 | darned volume buttons are cheap | 13:24 |
| charl_ | good afternoon | 13:25 |
| Vince-0 | haai | 13:26 |
| charl_ | hi Vince-0 | 13:26 |
| charl_ | i think i am switching to mint cinnamon after all | 13:27 |
| charl_ | i'll do it tomorrow or sometime this week | 13:27 |
| charl_ | xfce is good but i like cinnamon's menu | 13:27 |
| Vince-0 | yar | 13:28 |
| Vince-0 | I'm a gnome shell user atm - | 13:28 |
| Vince-0 | not to all: try not buy the first version of a gadget. It always sux and is succeeded quickly | 13:29 |
| charl_ | yeah it's an early adopter problem | 13:30 |
| kbmonkey | cinnamon is the gnome 2 fork, right? | 13:31 |
| charl_ | nope that's mate | 13:35 |
| charl_ | cinnamon is a fairly new one | 13:36 |
| charl_ | oh wait, it's also a gnome fork | 13:36 |
| charl_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinnamon_(user_interface) | 13:36 |
| charl_ | but there is also this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MATE_(desktop_environment) | 13:36 |
| kbmonkey | ah :) | 13:41 |
| kbmonkey | I'm still using snapwm | 13:41 |
| kbmonkey | I also have catwm setup, but don't log into it much | 13:41 |
| kbmonkey | and spectrwm setup. too man -wm's here XD | 13:42 |
| charl_ | don't know it but it's tiling right? | 13:42 |
| kbmonkey | yes it's tiling, but it also has floating like you know it. | 13:42 |
| kbmonkey | you can tell each desktop to use a different layout | 13:42 |
| charl_ | ah | 13:43 |
| charl_ | i really want to try one of those | 13:43 |
| kbmonkey | its nice to say run htop, vnstat, slurm and others and have them show in neat blocks automatically :] | 13:43 |
| charl_ | i don't have big expectations of a desktop environment because at home i just use my laptop and i have a 14,5" screen | 13:43 |
| kbmonkey | oh definitely, I started on tiling because my netbook had such a small screen. 10" | 13:44 |
| kbmonkey | it maximizes space | 13:44 |
| charl_ | i normally only have one thing open on my screen at a time, things that are important to me is to be able to switch between applications and launch applications | 13:44 |
| charl_ | preferably by using the keyboard only, i hate using the mouse/touchpad | 13:44 |
| kbmonkey | we're kindred folk then charl_ | 13:45 |
| kbmonkey | do you use vi sometimes to edit files charl_ ? | 13:45 |
| charl_ | i use vim as my primary editor | 13:45 |
| charl_ | at work i use a variety of tools though, also some ide applications | 13:46 |
| kbmonkey | well tiling switches windows with vi-like style. Super+j/k is the new alt-tab | 13:46 |
| charl_ | i could get used to it, especially if it's small, fast and configurable | 13:47 |
| charl_ | wow the snow came down quite hard the last day in my region | 13:48 |
| charl_ | somewhat unusual | 13:49 |
| kbmonkey | I have not tried this yet, but you may like to browse http://i3wm.org/ | 13:49 |
| charl_ | especially for late-february | 13:49 |
| kbmonkey | snow? wow no chance of that here :) | 13:49 |
| charl_ | oh yes! i was looking at i3 the other day | 13:49 |
| charl_ | very nice | 13:49 |
| kbmonkey | if I set it up one day I'll note the steps | 13:49 |
| charl_ | cool | 13:49 |
| charl_ | ah i see there is an i3-wm package in ubuntu | 13:50 |
| kbmonkey | really? cool. | 13:50 |
| charl_ | strange, i don't see a snapwm package though | 13:51 |
| charl_ | i might try i3 first then | 13:51 |
| kbmonkey | you probably choose i3 in the login screen then, under 'sessions' | 13:51 |
| charl_ | yes | 13:51 |
| charl_ | something simple to get me started | 13:51 |
| kbmonkey | tip: write down the essential keyboard commands first. it helps :) | 13:51 |
| charl_ | oh yes good idea actually | 13:52 |
| charl_ | brb | 13:52 |
| kbmonkey | spectrwm won't be in the repos, its still in development | 13:52 |
| === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za | ||
| zeref | hmmmm | 16:43 |
| Tonberry | this is very strange, sometimes my nfs mounts only show an empty directory, other times they work fine | 16:48 |
| Tonberry | and then it is only some of them breaking | 16:48 |
| Tonberry | i can even unmount a working one and then remount it and sometimes get the empty directory | 16:49 |
| Trixar_za | Is it an encrypted partition? | 16:49 |
| Tonberry | no | 16:50 |
| Trixar_za | Then that's strange | 16:50 |
| Trixar_za | Is the partition alright? Does ntfsfix command give errors? | 16:51 |
| Tonberry | nfs not ntfs | 16:52 |
| zeref | ls | 16:52 |
| Trixar_za | Oo | 16:52 |
| Trixar_za | what is nfs? :P | 16:52 |
| Tonberry | network file system | 16:53 |
| Trixar_za | Ah, up to speed now | 16:54 |
| Trixar_za | Thanks Wikipedia :P | 16:54 |
| Trixar_za | Looks interesting | 16:54 |
| Kilos | evening all | 16:58 |
| Tonberry | hello | 16:58 |
| charl_ | hi | 17:37 |
| charl_ | hi Kilos, Tonberry, Trixar_za | 17:37 |
| Kilos | hi charl_ Trixar_za Tonberry | 17:38 |
| charl_ | how's it going Kilos | 17:38 |
| charl_ | i don't chat on here much any more during the week, am too busy | 17:38 |
| Kilos | at the moment ok ty after many installs | 17:38 |
| Kilos | starting to hate 12.04 | 17:38 |
| charl_ | what were you installing? ubuntu? | 17:38 |
| Kilos | on kde 12.04 now | 17:39 |
| charl_ | ah nice | 17:39 |
| charl_ | i like it | 17:39 |
| charl_ | although the alpha of kubuntu 13.04 is looking super sexy | 17:39 |
| charl_ | am looking forward to it | 17:39 |
| Kilos | my unity crashed and then couldnt see modem 2 installs then couldnt login past password 2 installs | 17:39 |
| charl_ | bah | 17:40 |
| charl_ | that's terrible | 17:40 |
| Kilos | need to install gdm on the unity that cant get past the password but was treying to stretch data to month end | 17:40 |
| Kilos | trying | 17:40 |
| charl_ | sucks man | 17:40 |
| Kilos | anyway gave up now i got the 2+1 bundle to use inna month and 5 days | 17:41 |
| Kilos | sigh | 17:41 |
| Kilos | hehe | 17:41 |
| charl_ | i want to install mint cinnamon on my laptop this week | 17:41 |
| charl_ | i am very impressed | 17:41 |
| charl_ | i am running it inside a virtual machine at work | 17:41 |
| Kilos | im sure ive installed 12.02 more than any 3 other peeps combined | 17:42 |
| charl_ | lol | 17:42 |
| charl_ | that sounds like it | 17:42 |
| Kilos | well 6 installs just today | 17:42 |
| charl_ | i reformat my laptop a lot as well but it's just because i like trying different things | 17:42 |
| charl_ | i used to also battle with my huawei 3g modem and other stuff | 17:42 |
| charl_ | right now i have a lenovo laptop and i don't need 3g anymore so everything just works | 17:43 |
| Kilos | im trying to fix scrap drives and somehow they help crash things | 17:43 |
| Kilos | yeah 3g can be a pain hey? | 17:43 |
| charl_ | yes | 17:43 |
| charl_ | the built-in drivers on ubuntu never worked for me | 17:43 |
| charl_ | i was using some open source vodafone application to manage it for me | 17:43 |
| charl_ | it worked quite well (most of the time) but with some versions of ubuntu it broke | 17:44 |
| Kilos | dont you know about sakis3g | 17:44 |
| charl_ | sometimes i had to downgrade, other times there was a workaround | 17:44 |
| Kilos | tiny scrip thingie that works well | 17:44 |
| charl_ | never tried it, not sure if it was around back then | 17:44 |
| charl_ | the one i used was this: https://forge.betavine.net/projects/vodafonemobilec/ | 17:45 |
| Kilos | only prob you gotta first do apt-get update and with no connection it cant get some package | 17:45 |
| charl_ | yup i used to install it on my dsl at home first | 17:45 |
| Kilos | libusb-dev i think | 17:45 |
| charl_ | yes that sounds familiar | 17:45 |
| Kilos | grrr | 17:45 |
| Kilos | lol | 17:46 |
| charl_ | if you don't have lan cable or wifi it can get tricky to get stuff set up | 17:46 |
| Kilos | yeah tell me about it | 17:46 |
| charl_ | i used to run debian on my old laptop but then i had to get some package installed for my wifi to work | 17:46 |
| charl_ | i think it was a binary driver or something | 17:46 |
| charl_ | i eventually figured out a way to download the packages first and put them on my installation flash drive | 17:46 |
| charl_ | then i would install those packages with dpkg after a reformat | 17:47 |
| Kilos | the good thing about 12.04 is that it sees my old nokia first time | 17:47 |
| charl_ | so that i could get back on wifi to be able to do anything else | 17:47 |
| Kilos | maybe my prob is because of foreign modem | 17:47 |
| charl_ | if you know the exact list of dependencies you should be able to do something similar | 17:47 |
| Kilos | but then it shouldnt see it sometimes | 17:48 |
| charl_ | foreign modem | 17:48 |
| charl_ | ? | 17:48 |
| Kilos | i have my whole archives saved but you cant install anything till you done apt-get update | 17:48 |
| Kilos | saudi arabia | 17:48 |
| charl_ | bah that sucks | 17:49 |
| charl_ | you have an saudi modem? wow ok | 17:49 |
| charl_ | *a saudi | 17:49 |
| Kilos | but the weird part is that both kde and unity see the modem at different times | 17:49 |
| charl_ | that's possible, it's two different connection manager tools | 17:50 |
| Kilos | boet gave it to me and had to unlock from them to get local providers working | 17:50 |
| Kilos | n o man | 17:50 |
| Kilos | last time i got it working i had to install both kde and unity and reboot before even plugin it in | 17:51 |
| Kilos | this last kde i plugged in when strating the install but only connected after install | 17:51 |
| Kilos | other ways didnt work | 17:52 |
| Kilos | and unity had to actually be connected before reboot then unplugged then it saw it after reboot | 17:52 |
| Kilos | every install different | 17:53 |
| Kilos | sigh | 17:53 |
| charl_ | afaik unity uses wicd https://launchpad.net/wicd | 17:53 |
| charl_ | kde uses KNetworkManager | 17:53 |
| tumbleweed | I'd be amased if unity used wicd | 17:54 |
| tumbleweed | amazed even | 17:54 |
| tumbleweed | gnome desktop uses network-manager | 17:54 |
| charl_ | maybe they are using something else? sorry can't verify not on it right now | 17:54 |
| tumbleweed | unity has always used network-manager, as far as I know | 17:54 |
| tumbleweed | wicd is kind of weird and crazy | 17:55 |
| charl_ | ah found it, yes | 17:55 |
| charl_ | you're right, thanks | 17:56 |
| charl_ | i didn't have a great experience with the old gnome connection manager or whatever it was called but it could have been driver related | 17:57 |
| tumbleweed | presumably. pretty much everyone uses network-manager these days, so it's all the same under the hood | 17:58 |
| Kilos | hi tumbleweed | 17:58 |
| tumbleweed | hi | 17:58 |
| tumbleweed | and on that note, I'm going out for a bit :) | 17:59 |
| Kilos | nm used to work first time | 17:59 |
| Kilos | methinks its just a 12.04 thing | 17:59 |
| Kilos | 12.10 didnt have probs here | 17:59 |
| Kilos | yo smile4ever | 17:59 |
| smile4ever | hi :) | 17:59 |
| smile4ever | :D | 17:59 |
| charl_ | now that i look at it properly, what i have here running inside mint xfce might also be network-manager in fact | 18:01 |
| charl_ | hi smile4ever | 18:01 |
| smile4ever | hi ) | 18:01 |
| smile4ever | :) | 18:01 |
| charl_ | is it snowing that hard in belgium too? | 18:01 |
| charl_ | we got a lot of snow the last day | 18:01 |
| charl_ | didn't expect this so late in february | 18:02 |
| smile4ever | yes, charl_ :( | 18:02 |
| charl_ | you don't like the snow? | 18:02 |
| smile4ever | Hehe, had to ride with the car :P | 18:02 |
| smile4ever | ;) | 18:02 |
| charl_ | ah no that's not so nice | 18:02 |
| charl_ | although, if you drive carefully and you have the right tires, it should be ok right? | 18:03 |
| charl_ | (have never driven through the snow in a car myself, only with a bicycle) | 18:03 |
| smile4ever | yes, charl_ | 18:06 |
| smile4ever | the roads were fine | 18:06 |
| smile4ever | salt works good ^^ :) | 18:06 |
| charl_ | ah yes, that's not bad at all then | 18:06 |
| charl_ | most of the bicycle roads here are also well salted, it's just when you go to the "buitenwijken" when it gets difficult | 18:08 |
| charl_ | they don't salt at all in most of the smaller roads | 18:08 |
| charl_ | it's very easy to slip when you're on a bike, but it's ok if you drive slowly and don't move out of first gear | 18:08 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:08 |
| charl_ | i'm fortunate that i live on a major road so i have a clean salted experience all the way from where i live to where i work :) | 18:09 |
| smile4ever | suburbs is the translation :) | 18:09 |
| smile4ever | charl_: do you have experience? :p | 18:10 |
| charl_ | ah, is that what you call it :) | 18:10 |
| smile4ever | yes :) | 18:10 |
| charl_ | yeah some people i know live a little on the outskirts of the city so i'm careful | 18:10 |
| charl_ | but i never really slipped badly so i'm fortunate | 18:10 |
| charl_ | never fell in any case | 18:10 |
| smile4ever | charl_: great. cause I did | 18:16 |
| === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za | ||
| smile4ever | hehe. :P | 18:17 |
| charl_ | :( | 18:17 |
| smile4ever | on the market square @ Sint-Niklaas | 18:17 |
| smile4ever | they've done a great job for making it ideal to break your legs over there. | 18:17 |
| charl_ | ouch | 18:17 |
| smile4ever | ;) | 18:17 |
| charl_ | ooooh | 18:17 |
| charl_ | on the hard stone not good | 18:17 |
| smile4ever | it's 100% flat = slippery | 18:18 |
| charl_ | yeah no that's no good | 18:18 |
| * Squirm yawns | 18:18 | |
| smile4ever | no they are just stupid, the town council :P | 18:18 |
| Squirm | hello | 18:18 |
| charl_ | brb have to take the washing out of the machine and put it in dryer | 18:18 |
| charl_ | hi Squirm | 18:19 |
| smile4ever | hello Squirm | 18:19 |
| smile4ever | "Dankie dat jy Firefox gekies het! Om meer uit jou blaaier te kry, kom gerus meer te wete oor die jongste kenmerke." :p | 18:20 |
| smile4ever | ^^ | 18:20 |
| charl_ | what dialect is that? | 18:21 |
| smile4ever | charl_: lol, "Afrikaans" | 18:24 |
| smile4ever | ;) | 18:24 |
| charl_ | oh yes of course, i thought it looked like some dialect of dutch | 18:24 |
| charl_ | ok i'm off, have a good evening all! | 18:24 |
| smile4ever | :) | 18:25 |
| Kilos | ohi superfly | 18:52 |
| superfly | hi Kilos | 18:53 |
| Kilos | night all. sleep tight | 19:05 |
| smile4ever | :) | 19:11 |
| smile4ever | bye :p | 19:32 |
| zeref | hmm | 20:09 |
| zeref | i'm trying set up connection sharing. debian->ubuntu. It connects then disconnects immediatly | 20:11 |
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