[00:01] <packetfrog> Nothing?
[00:01] <bekks> packetfrog: just search for the lowlatency kernel package: apt-cache search latency
[00:02] <ldiamond> "System program problem detected" "Do you want to report the problem now?"
[00:02] <ldiamond> How do I know what the hell the problem is?
[00:02] <packetfrog> bekks: Thank you. :)
[00:02] <ldiamond> I'm not giving my PW to this unknown thing
[00:02] <COLORS> Hello
[00:02] <packetfrog> Hi.
[00:02] <nu2ub_> ntzrmtthihu777 how do i log in as a root
[00:03] <COLORS> ldiamond you should submit a bug report
[00:03] <bekks> !root | nu2ub_
[00:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> why would you want to ? I can tell you how, but for what reason?
[00:03] <ldiamond> COLORS, it's not like an obvious system popup.
[00:03] <mneptok> ldiamond: whatever crashed was running as a system process, and its logfiles are readable only by root. thus the need for your password.
[00:03] <ldiamond> COLORS, how can I tell it's legit and not some way to gain root access for some rootkit
[00:03] <COLORS> hmm
[00:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> ldiamond: its legit, lol.
[00:03] <ldiamond> mneptok, I agree with that, but still any application can show this popup
[00:04] <COLORS> It's very unlikly it is a rootkit xD
[00:04] <ldiamond> ntzrmtthihu777, how can you tell?
[00:04] <ldiamond> "unlikely" != "impossible"
[00:04] <mneptok> ldiamond: you don't *have* to send a report. so don't.
[00:04] <ldiamond> mneptok, sure, but I still want to know what crashed
[00:04] <ldiamond> I'll manually file a bug if it's important
[00:04] <mneptok> ldiamond: tail /var/log/syslog
[00:04] <mneptok> ldiamond: etc etc
[00:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> true, and anyone on the street can rob you; question is are you gonna live in fear or just be carefull and use common sense
[00:05] <COLORS> :P
[00:06] <ldiamond> ntzrmtthihu777, different situation. If someone on the street asks for my wallet, I'll definitely say no
[00:06] <Wolfgang__> Im running lububuntu in vbox but i want to resize the virtual hd
[00:06] <Wolfgang__> how do i do so?
[00:06] <notStewpid> Hotspot on ubuntu anyone?
[00:06] <bekks> Wolfgang__: Resize the vdi file by using VBoxManage.
[00:06] <Wolfgang__> ok
[00:06] <COLORS> Wolfgang_ Do you have auto-allocation turned on?
[00:06] <KRomeleoN> is libreoffice 4.0 still not available in sw center ??
[00:07] <nonan> is lububuntu a thing for real?
[00:07] <Wolfgang__> Yes
[00:07] <KRomeleoN> lube-buntu lol
[00:07] <COLORS> Yes
[00:07] <k1l> !lubuntu | nonan
[00:07] <Wolfgang__> Where is vboxmanage?
[00:07] <COLORS> Lubuntu is Light-buntu :3
[00:07] <bekks> nonan: No. :) It is called lubuntu. :)
[00:07] <COLORS> Thank you ubottu :D
[00:07] <k1l> KRomeleoN: you will need a ppa for that
[00:08] <Wolfgang__> Where is the manage thing?
[00:08] <nonan> bekks: thanks
[00:08] <bekks> Wolfgang__: In the directory you installed vbox to.
[00:08] <Wolfgang__> ok
[00:08] <cellofellow> How do I manually change the bash prompt? It's currently very long (on a deep dir with long names) and running PS1="short" doesn't do anything, echo $PS1 is still what it was before.
[00:08] <bekks> Wolfgang__: And it is called VBoxManage
[00:09] <nonan> try export PS1="blah" ?
[00:09] <COLORS> 1743 people online ._.
[00:09] <COLORS> ohmygoshz xD
[00:10] <Wolfgang__> bekks : is it in the program files?
[00:10] <mneptok> COLORS: please don't state thew obvious. this is a support channel. :)
[00:10] <COLORS> Sorry :P
[00:10] <bekks> Wolfgang__: I dont know where you installed vbox to.
[00:11] <Wolfgang__> Program files
[00:11] <Wolfgang__> is it in the folder in there?
[00:11] <bekks> Wolfgang__: Just look in that folder then...
[00:11] <COLORS> Wolfgang:__ Program Files or Program Files (x86)
[00:12] <Wolfgang__> COLORS: im in there but i dont see vmanage
[00:12] <mneptok> Wolfgang__: are you running VBox on Windows? if so, your issue is not really relevant to an Ubuntu support channel.
[00:12] <COLORS> Wolfgang__: Go into the Oracle VM Virtualbox folder
[00:12] <bekks> Wolfgang__: It is called: VBoxManage - not vmanage or something else.
[00:13] <COLORS> Wolfgang__: It will be INSIDE Virtualbox folder, wherever you installed it.
[00:13] <Wolfgang__> I see it
[00:13] <notStewpid> Ubuntu wifi hotspot!!??
[00:13] <Wolfgang__> how do i open it?
[00:13] <COLORS> Wolfgang__: You click on it
[00:14] <Wolfgang__> if i click it it opens then closes
[00:14] <bekks> Wolfgang__: Open a command prompt window, navigate to that folder, then run it providing the options to resize your vdi.
[00:14] <bekks> Wolfgang__: You should have a look at the official vbox manual on their site.
[00:14] <COLORS> Wolfgang__: What operating system are you on?
[00:15] <Wolfgang__> Win 8
[00:16] <COLORS> Wolfgang__: We only provide support for Ubuntu Linux here, I'm sorry
[00:16] <notStewpid> give me support niggas!!!
[00:17] <notStewpid> ubuntu hotspots! do u use them?
[00:17] <bekks> notStewpid: Watch your language and finally ask the REAL question.
[00:17] <COLORS> notStewpid: Please use approprite language here
[00:17] <bekks> I am sorry for the caps.
[00:17] <notStewpid> lol language? rly. fine, sry. Anysways, how can I create a hotspot in ubuntu, such that I can use internet from it on my phone?
[00:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> ldiamond: its more like a man dressed as an officer of the law asking for you id; it could be an id theif but hey, you never know.
[00:20] <COLORS> notStewpid: Take a look at this: http://freshtutorial.com/create-your-own-wifi-hotspot-in-ubuntu-11-10/
[00:20] <mneptok> bekks: i asked nicely aabout caps. this is Strike Two.
[00:21] <Guest73736> hello all. Does anyone know what package contains chattr?
[00:21] <bekks> mneptok: I already said sorry in the very next sentence.
[00:21] <mneptok> bekks: if you know it's wrong, don't do it in the first place.
[00:21] <nonan> $ dpkg -S `which chattr` gives: e 2fsprogs: /usr/bin/chattr
[00:21] <bekks> mneptok: That why I said sorry.
[00:21] <nonan> e2fsprogs
[00:21] <COLORS> Chattr is a system binary
[00:22] <Guest73736> nonan: thanks
[00:22] <notStewpid> COLORS: I tried, but it doesn't work.
[00:22] <nonan> yw!
[00:22] <COLORS> notStewpid: Really? Did it give errors?
[00:23] <notStewpid> No erros, but I can't connect my phone to the network. Firstly, there is no security for a while. WHen there is security, it asks me for a username and password, and I don't know what to write for the username.
[00:24] <nonan> what type of phone? are you able to connect any other wifi device to it?
[00:24] <COLORS> notStewpid: Is your error similar to the one decribed here? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1977556
[00:25] <nearst> howdy ppl
[00:25] <COLORS> Hello nearst, need any help?
[00:26] <notStewpid> COLORS: My phone can see the network, and connect initially, so in that sense it isn't like the problem in the link.
[00:27] <nearst> COLORS, ya. im try to setting up my screen resolution. but it say no gnome-display-properties failed to execute child process :(
[00:28] <COLORS> notStewpid: Is http://tumutanzi.com/archives/8195 any help?
[00:28] <COLORS> nearst: You should file a bug report.
[00:28] <notStewpid> COLORS: I've tried that too, no help.
[00:29] <COLORS> notStewpid: Hmmm... I've never done it myself. Try asking on AskUbuntu or the forums.
[00:30] <nearst> COLORS, owh. u have some problem about that before?
[00:30] <Penguin_> Hi. I'm trying to create an Ubuntu LiveCD and failing at it. Could someone lend me an hand?
[00:30] <nonan> notStewpid: what type of phone? are you able to connect any other wifi device to it?
[00:31] <notStewpid> nonan: iphone, haven't tried any other device.
[00:31] <nearst> im guess iphone 3gs wifi buggy :P. jk
[00:31] <COLORS> nearts: No- but it sounds like a bug, not you doing something wrong.
[00:31] <nonan> which ios ver?
[00:31] <notStewpid> 4.2.1
[00:32] <nearst> COLORS, i dont know how to report a bugs, reading about reporting and apport atm
[00:32] <nonan> hmm...
[00:32] <Penguin_> Anyone? Please.
[00:32] <nearst> Penguin_, creating ubuntu live cd ? what u mean?
[00:32] <Penguin_> A CD from which I can run Ubuntu
[00:32] <Penguin_> Without installing it
[00:32] <Biomechd> hey guys, i can't seem to access my software sources
[00:32] <COLORS> nearst: Do Ctrl+Alt+T and run "ubuntu-bug gnome-display-properties"
[00:33] <AZ0R> a live CD
[00:33] <Penguin_> Yep
[00:33] <nonan> if you can connect another device to ur adhoc wifi ap, and see if it is just your phone acting up..
[00:33] <Penguin_> Thing is, I've never done it before, and the first time I even tried to install a linux distro was a few days ago
[00:33] <Penguin_> So I'm pretty confused about how to actually do it
[00:33] <notStewpid> nonan: It worked with windows 7 on connectify, and it also works with other wireless networks, so I doubt it.
[00:34] <AZ0R> i installed ubuntu while i was running windows and it installed it as a fat32 sharing the same format
[00:34] <notStewpid> nonan: also, please call me by name, so it is easier to notice that you are talking to me. ty.
[00:34] <AZ0R> creating a dual boot
[00:34] <nearst> Penguin_, oic. i recommend try with remastersys, uck and ubuntu-builder work fine. unless ure going serious with lfs
[00:34] <rickb> YES
[00:35] <rickb> Monotoko: that worked! thank you so much!!!
[00:35] <Penguin_> I'll give some background on my situation: I installed Ubuntu on a laptop a few days ago, alongside Windows Vista, to repurpose it into something useful. The problem is that, after installing a few updates on Ubuntu a few hours ago, I got an error, and since then I haven't been able to boot up the PC.
[00:35] <rickb> works wonderfully
[00:35] <MoPac> I'm wondering about whether there are good programs or command sets for running "macro"-like operations on Ubuntu desktops. E.g., say I want to go into a game mode and so issue pause commands in some programs, close other programs, adjust my cpupower profile, etc with one click
[00:35] <nearst> Penguin_, nah. grub im guess
[00:36] <MoPac> Is this something I need to script into a file myself, or are there off-the-shelf soltuions?  I'm particularly interested in commands to close programs that aren't "pkill"
[00:36] <nearst> Penguin_, http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd/
[00:36] <Monotoko> rickb, no problem :)
[00:36] <Biomechd> i can't seem to access my software sources, and i keep getting random ubuntu 12.10 errors.
[00:36] <Penguin_> I can't even access the BIOS, so I'm guessing I fucked up pretty badly. That's why I'm trying to run a Live CD with Ubuntu, to at least salvage my files. @nearst, I have no idea what you meant by "remastersys", "uck" or "ubuntu-builder", nor "lfs". I'm inexperienced in this, eh
[00:36] <Biomechd> i also don't recall being able to install anything.
[00:37] <ldiamond> ntzrmtthihu777, it's actually more like some guy dressed as a security guard asking for your id, in Mexico.
[00:37] <Penguin_> I'll give it a read nearst
[00:37] <nearst> Penguin_, okies dokies.
[00:38] <plaidcounty> hello
[00:38] <Penguin_> Hmm, that doesn't really answer my problem
[00:38] <nonan> notStewpid: WEP encryption? or WPA?
[00:38] <Penguin_> I don't want to install Ubuntu from the CD. I want to run it off the CD.
[00:38] <Penguin_> And that page assumes I already know how to make a Live CD
[00:39] <COLORS> nonan: I think it is using 108.11X Pro or whatever its called. It asks for usernamed AND a password :(
[00:39] <notStewpid> WEP
[00:39] <AZ0R> penguin_ try going to a linux forum?
[00:39] <notStewpid> nonan:WEP
[00:39] <COLORS> nonan: Oh wait its called "Enterprise" not "Pro"
[00:39] <Penguin_> Well, I'm trying to do it with Ubuntu specifically
[00:39] <Penguin_> So I thought you guys could help
[00:40] <nearst> Penguin_, thats not install. it chroot your current system with live cd so that ure able to recover your beloved ubuntu
[00:40] <Penguin_> Chroot?
[00:40] <AZ0R> penguine_ ubuntu is very helpfull with forums and porbles as is this
[00:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> ldiamond: so you have a mexican knock-off of ubuntu! must be your problem
[00:40] <nonan> notStewpid: tried admin, admin?
[00:40] <Penguin_> I don't follow Az0r
[00:41] <nonan> notStewpid: w/o the ?
[00:41] <AZ0R> "pen" never mind
[00:41] <plaidcounty> I'm having trouble keeping my wifi connected to my router. Using ASUS USB N-13 (realtek version)
[00:41] <COLORS> Penguin_: Have a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[00:41] <adampie> Yeah my seems to disconnect from time to time as well
[00:42] <plaidcounty> It doesn't show as disconnected but just quits.
[00:42] <Penguin_> Colors, "Boot into the live Ubuntu cd. This can be the live installer cd or the older live session Ubuntu cds."
[00:42] <Penguin_> There's the problem
[00:42] <Penguin_> I need help making the actual CD
[00:42] <Penguin_> I have no idea of what to actually put on it.
[00:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> use brasero on ubuntu or burncdcc on windows.
[00:43] <COLORS> Penguin_: Ah, I see- I'll poing you to a tutorial on that. Hold on a sec
[00:43] <Penguin_> Thanks
[00:43] <plaidcounty> adampie: have you ever been able to stop it from disconnecting?
[00:43] <notStewpid> nonan: just tried. still not working.
[00:44] <COLORS> Penguin_: Does https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD help at all?
[00:44] <adampie> Ummm no, I just click the Wifi Icon and click on my Router and it eventually reconnects
[00:44] <Penguin_> I was already reading that page, eh
[00:44] <Penguin_> It's very vague. It just says "Download Ubuntu" and "Make your own CD", basically
[00:44] <nonan> notStewpid:  admin, password too?
[00:44] <adampie> Anyone getting problems with a dim/off screen every time you boot? I've searched forums but nothing seems to be fixing it?
[00:45] <nonan> try all of those well known combos!
[00:45] <nonan> and/or file a bug report!
[00:45] <COLORS> Penguin: Do you have the Ubuntu image/ISO file?
[00:46] <Penguin_> Yep
[00:46] <Penguin_> And I have a blank rewritable DVD (best thing I could gind)
[00:46] <COLORS> Penguin_: Ok- try using http://www.softpedia.com/get/CD-DVD-Tools/Data-CD-DVD-Burning/ImgBurn.shtml to burn it to a CD.
[00:46] <notStewpid> nonan: dude, is there something like connectify for linux?
[00:46] <Penguin_> *find
[00:47] <Penguin_> Alright
[00:48] <WBF> k1l, thank you in ratp0is0n right now :D
[00:48] <fat> does any1 know how to move the unity from the left to the bottom (ubuntu 12.10)
[00:48] <plaidcounty> So far the only way I've found to keep a steady connection over wifi is to keep a constant ping going in the terminal.
[00:48] <COLORS> fat: As far as I know you cannot do that yet
[00:48] <k1l> WBF: ok :)
[00:49] <fat> C0L0rS: aaah dam! k
[00:49] <COLORS> fat: If you want a bottom dock-type thing, do "sudo apt-get install docky"
[00:49] <fat> COLORS: do u mean a panel?
[00:50] <COLORS> fat: yah
[00:51] <adampie> plaid: i just cant seem to understand as my router is in the room next to mine, if it carries on im changing to ethernet
[00:51] <nonan> notStewpid:  which ubuntu ver?
[00:51] <WBF> k1l, ratpoision is lagging through so may switch to LXDE :D
[00:51] <Penguin_> Oh God
[00:51] <notStewpid> 12.4 lts
[00:51] <COLORS> What?
[00:51] <notStewpid> nonan: 12.4
[00:51] <Penguin_> So I was burning the CD
[00:52] <COLORS> Yeah...?
[00:52] <Penguin_> And suddenly the tower started making noises and I practically jumped off my chair
[00:52] <Penguin_> I'm an idiot
[00:52] <nonan> notStewpid:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Adhoc#Wireless_Extensions_CLI_tools_Method
[00:52] <COLORS> xD Wow lol
[00:52] <nonan> notStewpid: tried that?
[00:52] <Penguin_> At this point
[00:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> omfg that's the funniest thing I heard in forever.
[00:52] <Penguin_> I'm just praying I don't ruin my desktop
[00:52] <COLORS> Penguin_: The noises are your CD drive working
[00:52] <plaidcounty> adampie: yeah, ethernet works for me, too but I'm stubborn and don't want a cable running across my living room to my desktop.
[00:52] <Penguin_> Trying to save the laptop
[00:52] <Penguin_> No, no, I know Colors, I'm not that stupid
[00:53] <Penguin_> But I wasn't expecting it
[00:53] <COLORS> Penguin: Oh ok lol
[00:53] <nonan> notStewpid: also, may be relavent:  GUI Method via Network Manager (Ubuntu 12.04)
[00:53] <nonan> Open Settings->Network->Wireless and create a new Ad Hoc network. To use a common denominator for all devices choose WEP for security and create a 5 letters password from 0..9A..F. Note that this a least secure encryption standard.
[00:53] <Penguin_> Seems like I'm not sleeping tonight
[00:53] <Penguin_> Bleh
[00:53] <L3mce> enter | Penguin_
[00:53] <notStewpid> nonan: gonna try that command line method now...fingers crossed...
[00:54] <L3mce> !enter | Penguin_
[00:54] <nearst> notStewpid, gudluck. 80% of my time is on cli rather than eye candy
[00:54] <plaidcounty> I've had this same wifi connectivity problem with my linksys ae2500 wifi adapter on 32 bit 12.10 with ndiswrapper with the xp driver
[00:54] <Penguin_> Oh, alright. Anyhow, disk is burned, let's see how this goes
[00:55] <COLORS> Penguin_: Good luck! Let us know how it goes!
[00:55] <plaidcounty> I've also self compiled the realtek driver for the asus usb n-13 with no luck. same connectivity issue.
[00:55] <Penguin_> The laptop's CD drive sounds like it's dying. Jesus, I hope this works.
[00:56] <adampie> plaidcountry: I would prefer Wifi but if it stops me from what ever I am doing frequently I will probably have to change to ethernet
[00:56] <COLORS> The CD drive always sounds like it's eating cornflakes when you run the LiveCD. PErfectly normal. :P
[00:57] <nearst> adampie, http://linuxplained.com/how-to-fix-wireless-problems-in-ubuntu-1204-precise-pangolin/
[00:57] <adampie> Anyone know how to fix the black screen at boot so I dont have to fn every boot?
[00:57] <nearst> !nomodeset | adampie
[00:57] <L3mce> The sound of your CD/DVD drive has nothing to do with linux or Ubuntu.
[00:58] <Penguin_> Is that directed at me?
[00:58] <Penguin_> If so, I'm aware
[00:59] <adampie> Ahh thanks!
[00:59] <COLORS> !
[01:00] <COLORS> Oops, key misspress
[01:01] <Penguin_> And the results are in: Still getting a black screen while the HDD (I assume) makes a whirring sound once and no more sounds afterwards.
[01:01] <evilfix> heya all.. does anyone here run an acer c7 chromebook with ChrUbuntu installed? have some questions..
[01:02] <Gavilan2> what are the best desktop/window managers for ubuntu?
[01:02] <escott> !best | Gavilan2
[01:02] <nearst> byobu and lxde for me
[01:02] <notStewpid> nonan: same problem. username and password!!!
[01:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> define best, you want low resource usage? I like gnome-fallback for that, although I hear lxde is good for that too.
[01:03] <luckybunny> I like Unity
[01:03] <luckybunny> didn't used to
[01:03]  * ntzrmtthihu777 vomits
[01:03] <nearst> im on pentium M :(
[01:03] <cfhowlett> Gavilan2, totally up to you.  nice thing is you can install and sample a wide range of DE's with a quick apt-get install command
[01:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> notStewpid: dpgk --reconfigure lightdm
[01:03] <luckybunny> when it arrived, it was the single most horrific thing I'd ever seen
[01:04] <luckybunny> nowadays it's a lot better
[01:04] <luckybunny> plus I've seen Windows 8
[01:04] <COLORS> Penguin_: Is your boot order set up?
[01:04]  * ntzrmtthihu777 vomits harder
[01:04] <Penguin_> Excuse me? I don't very much appreciate you talking about my mother like that.
[01:04] <Gavilan3> cfhowlett: How do I install them with apt get install?
[01:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> apt-get install lxde or whatever, simple.
[01:04] <yown> Can one look at files one can potentially recover, with photorec, without actually recovering them? If not, is there a recovery program you guys can recommend for ubuntu that can?
[01:04] <luckybunny> I mean seriously... unity vs metro... it's a no brainer
[01:05] <nearst> !apt-get | Gavilan2
[01:05] <nearst> !apt-get | Gavilan3
[01:05] <escott> yown, no
[01:05] <notStewpid> ntzrmtthihu777: What?
[01:05] <evilfix> is there a way to get apt-get to install ONLY security updates?
[01:05] <Penguin_> After reading on it, I assume it is, Colors. I didn't mess with it. Not that I can change it anyhow, because I can't even get into the BIOS.
[01:05] <cfhowlett> Gavilan2, there's a list of ubuntu DE's out there somewhere.  Suppose you're on vanilla ubuntu but you're curious about lxde. sudo apt-get install lxde will give you that!  then logout.  on login back in, choose lxde session and try it.
[01:06] <luckybunny> a no brainer in which unity defecates all over metro, contracts dysentry and then defecates some more
[01:06] <yown> escott  With a recovery program, can it recover more data then free space on said drive?
[01:06] <cfhowlett> evilfix, yep.  set your update settings to security only.
[01:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> notStewpid: you are stuck with the black-screen login, right?
[01:06] <Gavilan3> cfhowlett: I'd like to try gnome and kde... how to install them and switch between them?
[01:06] <Gavilan3> !Synaptic (Gnome)
[01:06] <escott> yown, i dont follow the question. no i think would be your answer
[01:06] <nonan> notStewpid: sudo iwconfig <ethX|wlanX>
[01:06] <Gavilan3> !Synaptic Gnome
[01:06] <Gavilan3> !Gnome
[01:06] <cfhowlett> Gavilan3 sudo apt-get install kde    logout/   choose KDE login
[01:07] <notStewpid> ntzrmtthihu777: nope, trying to get wifi hotspot working.
[01:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> ah, nvm.
[01:07] <nearst> Gavilan3, then install kubuntu-desktop and gnome-desktop-environment
[01:07] <luckybunny> I missed gnome 2 for the first year or so of unity, and was using lxde instead
[01:07] <COLORS> Penguin_: You can't access the BIOS? But Ubuntu does not alter the contents of the CMOS, the BIOS should be inteact.
[01:07] <COLORS> *intact
[01:07] <yown> escott: OK, let me approach from a different angle then. Can data to recover be hidden between data already on a drive? Or only in free space? I understand that even with data overwrite, you can recover data. But I suppose only with super expensive stuff?
[01:08] <evilfix> im just worred some of that wont work out with finicky chrome ubuntu install, dont know if it will break anything or not
[01:08] <Gavilan3> cfhowlett: E: Package 'kde' has no installation candidate
[01:08] <Penguin_> Is there some way to send a private message? I'd rather not flood the main channel with my explanation
[01:08] <cfhowlett> Gavilan3, wait 1
[01:08] <escott> yown, if it has been overwritten it is pretty much gone
[01:08] <Penguin_> Oops, just discovered it, never mind
[01:08] <COLORS> Penguin_: Do /msg COLORS message
[01:08] <plaidcounty> ntzrm: that was adampie, but he's offline now.
[01:08] <Gavilan3> So I do: "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" for gnome?
[01:09] <cfhowlett> Gavilan3, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE
[01:09] <yown> escott when you move data from one partition to another on the same drive, you actually move the data, rather then giving it another address, right?
[01:09] <escott> yown, its a copy followed by a delete
[01:10] <cfhowlett> Gavilan3, http://www.filiwiese.com/installing-gnome-on-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/
[01:10] <yown> escott: but that isn't the case when data is moved within the same partition, right?
[01:10] <escott> yown, in most cases no. same filesystem is just a change in the hardlinks
[01:10] <notStewpid> nonan: still asks me for username and password. don't know what ur trying to do there
[01:11] <nonan> notStewpid: i wanted to see the o/p of sudo iwconfig on your interface
[01:11] <nonan> anyways,
[01:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> ah, oh well plaidcounty.
[01:11] <fat> How do i configure docky. I have 5 apps on it (firefox, termional, empathy, rubbish bin and  music player). how do i put my own ones there
[01:12] <scooby> I want to be able to log out from the shell - I tried gnome-session-quit and I get a warning that it failed to call logout - how do I logout at the shell
[01:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> Gavilan3: ubuntu-desktop will give you unity in the newer versions of ubuntu.
[01:12] <nonan> notStewpid: apparantly its a known problem, few others have reported it too, http://bit.ly/15FdKD4
[01:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> scooby: you mean go into cli mode?
[01:13] <nonan> notStewpid: http://askubuntu.com/questions/251971/ad-hoc-wep-requesting-username , stfw!
[01:14] <scooby> ntzrmtthihu777: yes - I want to do it as a cli commen
[01:14] <notStewpid> nonan: where do I put that code?
[01:15] <scooby> ntzrmtthihu777: what I mean is that when at a terminal prompt I want to be able to logout
[01:15] <fat> help pls
[01:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> sudo logout should do it, no?
[01:16] <fat> C0L0RS: do u use docky
[01:16] <k1l> scooby: "exit"
[01:16] <scooby> ntzrmtthihu777: no - because logout realizes that I am a shell and says to use exit
[01:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> no, that would kill the terminal he is in, right?
[01:17] <nearst> kill
[01:18] <scooby> k11: no - exit will close that shell session not log me out - under previous revisions of ubuntu I could do gnome-session-save --logout - but this is no longer there and the docs imply gnom-session-quit is the replacement but it does not work
[01:18] <escott> scooby, gnome-session-quit would kill your gui session
[01:19] <scooby> escott: yes - that is what I want - however the problem is that when I do it, and I have truied on multiple 12.x systems I get: WARNING: Failed to call logout
[01:19] <mrproper> hello. Is there a way to disable single user mode in grub2?
[01:20] <escott> scooby, is gnome-session running
[01:20] <escott> mrproper, why would you bother
[01:20] <yown> escott: Does writting a boot image on a usb flash drive the equivalent of writting over it?
[01:20] <nonan> notStewpid: say,  /root/file.conf, as long as you launch  it as shown in that page, wpa_supplicant -c/root/file.conf -i<interface> -D<driver> . see man wpa_supplicant
[01:20] <yown> completely?
[01:20] <mrproper> escott: it's just a question. Curiosity
[01:20] <usr13> mrproper: Disable single user mode?  Not sure why but I guess you could delete that entry in the config.
[01:20] <scooby> escott: I assume so, I got to the terminal from the gui desktop - if that is what you mean
[01:21] <escott> mrproper, ^^ the user can always just add it back. physical access is root access is the general principle followed for the last 50 years
[01:21] <yown> What channel should I got to, to ask for advice on which linux distro to use?
[01:21] <escott> scooby, ps aux | grep gnome-session; killall gnome-session
[01:21] <cfhowlett> yown, #linux
[01:21] <fat> how do i configure docky. please help. i can't create any applications on it
[01:21] <k1l> yown: #linux
[01:22] <mrproper> escott: yes, but anyway. Is there a way? I mean, I don't want a user to user single user mode even if he/she is editing the grub entry and editing it by hand
[01:22] <Jeremy3D> i'm not sure if anyone can answer this. i download a new build of Blender every couple of days. I have some scripts/addons that I want to always have available, but dont want to have to move them in each build folder. anyone think they can help?
[01:23] <cfhowlett> Jeremy3D, #blender is the place for that question
[01:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> later all
[01:23] <cfhowlett> Jeremy3D, or possibly #ubuntustudio
[01:23] <Jeremy3D> cfhowlett, asked there but noone on uses ubuntu. :\
[01:23] <cfhowlett> mrproper, perhaps better to password protect the grub?
[01:23] <scooby> escott: I guess I am not really running gnome-session - at least according to ps - so what am I running - I am using this very system now and have this chat opened throug chatzilla etc - so I have a session
[01:24] <escott> scooby, what desktop environment are you using
[01:24] <mrproper> cfhowlett: yes, I know. There are hundred of better options. Is just a question xD
[01:24] <friedg> join #linux
[01:24] <magn3ts> Why does Steam suck so much at packaging?
[01:24] <scooby> escott: this system is xfce - this one is running xubuntu
[01:24] <fbc_> Is there any solution to installing ubuntu on a UEFI  LENOVO z475 with no legacy mode?
[01:25] <cfhowlett> Jeremy3D, I would think that a new build of blender means it doesn't pick up your preferences/links etc.  Thus the need to specify for each build ...
[01:25] <usr13> mrproper: After you do that, you'll also need to set the PC to only boot the HD and password protect the BIOS as well.
[01:25] <cfhowlett> magn3ts, as no here actually works for Valve, perhaps direct your query elsewhere?  Valve support maybe ...
[01:25] <escott> mrproper, to secure your system from a physical access attack you need (a) a case intrusion device (b) password protected uefi (c) secure boot (d) password protected grub (e) a version of grub that only boots signed kernels (f) a signed kernel (g) a secure system
[01:26] <escott> scooby, i dont know what they use but its not gnome-session. ps aux | grep session might say
[01:26] <cfhowlett> fbc_, 12.4.2 has a uefi workaround
[01:26] <escott> usr13, i laugh at your attempts to secure a system with a mere bios password
[01:27] <Gavilan3> cfhowlett: I followed that link, I still see unity...
[01:27] <fbc_> cfhowlett, please go on.
[01:27] <cfhowlett> Gavilan3, you have to logout.  then you choose the environment you want to work with.  log in ....
[01:28] <Gavilan3> cfhowlett: I restarted which includes logging out
[01:28] <scooby> escott: there is an xfce-session - I will try killing that I guess  - so if it works: thanks and good bye
[01:29] <cfhowlett> fbc_, without the tech-babble, ubuntu 12.4.2 has a UEFI workaround allowing you to install on a uefi equipped machine without bricking it.  applies mostly to samsung.  sorry I can't be more specific as I haven't yet dealt with UEFI issues on my '09 dell.
[01:29] <fbc_> cfhowlett, Any link or a guide you can point me to?
[01:30] <cfhowlett> fbc_, lenovo ... what model?
[01:30] <fbc_> cfhowlett, z475
[01:30] <scooby> escott: TY so much - killing the xfce4-session seems to give me exactly what I want - it is NOT elegant but appears to work
[01:31] <cfhowlett> fbc_, and you're installing 12.4.2 the LTS release?
[01:31] <fbc_> cfhowlett, Iwas tryign 12.10, but I'll do whatever realse that works.
[01:31] <cfhowlett> fbc wait 1
[01:32] <jasunto> ubuntu 12.10 with GTX-580 SLI? is it possible
[01:32] <jasunto> ?
[01:32] <nearst> ima replace lightdm to lxdm. more better im guesss
[01:33] <Gavilan3> cfhowlett: Sorry, I missed that option... Now I found it...
[01:33] <cfhowlett> fbc_, see   http://www.efytimes.com/e1/fullnews.asp?edid=100577
[01:33] <Gavilan3> What's the best way to make ubuntu look and behave at close as possible to windows?
[01:33] <cfhowlett> Gavilan3, no worries.  enjoy your new look
[01:33] <Gavilan3> thanks
[01:33] <cfhowlett> Gavilan3, err, ok ... xfce/lxde mimic ubuntu to an extent
[01:34] <Gavilan3> I meant having a taskbar, a start menu on the bottom
[01:34] <Gavilan3> the windows hotkeys...
[01:34] <Gavilan3> windows key + r to run a command...
[01:34] <Gavilan3> etc... etc...
[01:34] <cfhowlett> !keys|Gavilan3,
[01:35] <luckybunny> so I've freed up 76GB, but I still think I'm not using anything remotely close to 203GB
[01:35] <Gavilan3> Is there any way  to automatically set it up so it matches windows as close as possible?
[01:35] <fbc_> cfhowlett, ok, maybe I'll have better luck with 12.4.2. Thanks
[01:35] <Gavilan3> I don't want to configure it manually... I want some magic script or something....
[01:35] <cfhowlett> fbc_, best of luck.
[01:35] <cfhowlett> Gavilan3, yeah, well, no.  You want the candy, you gotta put in the work ...
[01:36] <nearst> hihi.
[01:37] <rahulsuman> Someone there?
[01:37] <cfhowlett> rahulsuman, there were?
[01:37] <fat> can i add another panel at the bottom (ubuntu 12.10)
[01:37] <KromiX> hi
[01:38] <KromiX> of course u can do anything u want
[01:38] <cfhowlett> KromiX, greetings
[01:38] <rahulsuman> cfhowlett: I am newbie to irc, any suggested channels?
[01:39] <cfhowlett> rahulsuman, this is ubuntu support.  for general chit chat use #ubuntu-offtopic   Specific programs sometimes have  a channel, thus #gimp   or   #blender   Musician?  #linux-musicians ....
[01:39] <fat> how can i add nother panel at the bottom??
[01:39] <plaidcounty> is there a specific channel for wifi problems on 12.10?
[01:40] <cfhowlett> !wifi|plaidcounty,
[01:40] <cfhowlett> plaidcounty, best to ask here ...
[01:41] <reverendp> How can I uninstall the steam launcher from the command line
[01:42] <cfhowlett> reverendp, depends on how it was installed ...  try       sudo apt-get purge steam
[01:42] <plaidcounty> my problem with my wifi is that it seems to stay connected according to the notification however nothing will connect.
[01:42] <cfhowlett> plaidcounty, are you also running a wired connection?
[01:42] <plaidcounty> Only way I've been able to keep a steady connection is to keep a constant ping going in a terminal
[01:43] <plaidcounty> negative. I've in IRC on my android tablet right now.
[01:43] <cfhowlett> plaidcounty, in  a terminal:   ping www.ubuntu.com
[01:44] <plaidcounty> I rebuilt the realtek driver with the linux headers for the ASUS USB N-13 but still has the same problem of "quitting" without disconnecting
[01:44] <plaidcounty> cfhowlett: ping is started for www.ubuntu.com
[01:45] <cfhowlett> plaidcounty, and I assume it sees ubuntu...
[01:45] <plaidcounty> yes
[01:45] <reverendp> cfhowlett hmm it says its not installed.  I installed it from terminal and it kept crashing.  I think I might have installed the 64 version.
[01:45] <plaidcounty> jujube.canonical.com to be precise
[01:45] <hfswhere> im looking at an osx hfs+ partition from ubuntu, where are the user files? /media/Macintosh HD/Users seems empty of music/documents etc
[01:46] <cfhowlett> reverendp, something to look at ...
[01:46] <hfswhere> ubuntu 11.10 live cd
[01:47] <reverendp> cfhowlett i've tried remove also and still not installed but the launcher is.  The USC won't let me install the 32 till I remove the launcher
[01:47] <cfhowlett> plaidcounty, my wifi experience is on Broadcom and I'm happy to say that's gotten a WHOLE lot easier over the years.  No working knowledge of realtek, but I would suspect fully updating your system and then rebuilding the driver should fix it.
[01:48] <cfhowlett> reverendp, HOW exactly did you install?  Ubuntu software center or a different method?
[01:48] <reverendp> cfhowlett no I used the terminal to install it
[01:49] <cfhowlett> reverendp, apt-get steam.deb or dpkg -i?
[01:49] <plaidcounty> cfhowlett: I was hoping the same, however I've reinstalled entire system twice with no luck and with two different wifi usb adapters. Other was linksys ae2500 (ndiswrapper from xp on 32bit for that one.)
[01:50] <fat> where is the terminal's image file path (the black board)?
[01:50] <cfhowlett> plaidcounty, try a different hotspot and see if the problem persists.  If yes, your driver/hardware is suspect.  If no, your current hotspot might have some routing/settings that are futzing your connection.
[01:50] <reverendp> cfhowlett, I think dppkg -i
[01:51] <k1l> fat: you can change that in the settings
[01:51] <cfhowlett> reverendp, ahhh, well then.  sudo dpkg -r is what you want
[01:51] <fat> k1l: i dont wnat to change it. i just want to find it
[01:51] <plaidcounty> I'll try connecting to an android tether.
[01:51] <k1l> fat: its not a image. its just a color
[01:52] <cfhowlett> plaidcounty, clever.  I didn't even think of that
[01:52] <fat> k1l: it is an image. it looks like this: http://cdn1.iconfinder.com/data/icons/stilllife/128x128/apps/gnome-terminal.png
[01:53] <k1l> fat: ah sry. thought you ment the background from the terminal
[01:53] <fat> k1l: nope. do u know where i can find it my file system?
[01:53] <reverendp> cfhowlett, will try that thanks so much, I am still learning
[01:53] <cfhowlett> reverendp, no worries
[01:54] <yown> I am having trouble with the linux channel, and I wish to discuss distro options. Where is another place I can go to do so?
[01:54] <rurufufuss> how does one run the disks program (for benchmarking harddrives) from the command line?
[01:54] <fat> yown: #linux
[01:54] <rurufufuss> 12.10 complains that running from the menu doesn't have proper permissions :/
[01:54] <fat> yown: type /j linux
[01:54] <duckx0r> I'm having trouble getting the live CD to mount. in both gparted and partitionmanager, "mount" is grayed out for all partitions. i also can't write to the live CD because it says read only file system. how do I mount with write access?
[01:54] <k1l> fat: /usr/share/icons ?
[01:54] <cfhowlett> !ot|yown would be good for that, but of course, favorably biased toward ubuntu
[01:54] <escott> rurufufuss, there are many different benchmarking tools. which one
[01:54] <yown> fat That just forwards me to ##linux, which I said I was having trouble with
[01:54] <k1l> fat or in ~/.icons
[01:55] <cfhowlett> duckx0r, live system is a CDrom or USB
[01:55] <rurufufuss> escott: never mind, found it, it was gnome-disks
[01:55] <fat> k1l: in the /usr/share/icons is the terminal image there?
[01:55] <cfhowlett> yown, www.distrowatch.com
[01:55] <tidux> when can we expect a generic apk for "Ubuntu for Android"?
[01:55] <yown> cfhowlett: So ubuntu-offtopic is a good place to discuss distro options?
[01:55] <sam_> need to install Mavis beacon 20 on ubuntu 12.04 wine . the program installs nicely . it works verywell except that cursor blinks when i move the mouse http://pastebin.com/MvL823aY
[01:55] <sam_> that was my log file
[01:55] <cfhowlett> yown, start there ...
[01:56] <duckx0r> cfhowlett, usb
[01:56] <fat> k1l: no its not there.
[01:56] <sam_> need to install Mavis beacon 20 on ubuntu 12.04 wine . the program installs nicely . it works verywell except that cursor blinks when i move the mouse http://pastebin.com/MvL823aY
[01:56] <yown> cfhowlett: I do not find the information on that website very digestible, or useful for comparison to a novice like me
[01:56] <tidux> sam_: stop spamming
[01:57] <k1l> yown: that is all very offtopic here. so please stop that topic
[01:57] <sam_> im not spaming im asking a question :( !!!!!
[01:57] <cfhowlett> duckx0r, adding files to live system while it's booted?
[01:57] <escott> tidux, never
[01:57] <k1l> !patience > sam_
[01:57] <fat> k1l: do u know
[01:57] <tidux> escott: why not?
[01:57] <duckx0r> cfhowlett, either that or copying files from one partition to another on the hard drive. i can't seem to mount anything with write access
[01:58] <tidux> It's just a chroot environment, right?
[01:58] <k1l> !phone | tidux
[01:58] <cfhowlett> !chroot|duckx0r   is the command you want
[01:58] <k1l> fat: no. you gotta search for yourself if noone knows else
[01:58] <fat> k1l: ok
[01:58] <yown> k1I Gladly, just answer the question about where to go then please
[01:59] <k1l> yown: you were shown several channels
[01:59] <cfhowlett> yown, if no live discussion is available on irc, you should consider using the mailing list of which there are .... many.
[02:00] <sam_> need to install Mavis beacon 20 on ubuntu 12.04 wine . the program installs nicely . it works verywell except that cursor blinks when i move the mouse http://pastebin.com/MvL823aY
[02:00] <duckx0r> cfhowlett, how would i use chroot to mount with write access?
[02:01] <cfhowlett> !wine|sam_,
[02:01] <k1l> sam_: for wine support see the wine support :) they know best whats going on
[02:01] <cfhowlett> yown, already advised you to see #linux.  best answer you'll get today.
[02:02] <WBF> having an issue with compiling vamos: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5560386/
[02:02] <sam_> err:richedit:ReadStyleSheet skipping optional destination  anybody knows what it means?
[02:03] <escott> duckx0r, chroot wont do anything for your situation
[02:03] <escott> duckx0r, what kind of filesystem are you trying to mount?
[02:03] <duckx0r> escott, fat32 and ext3
[02:04] <saloomi2012> Hello what does  System > Preferences > Startup Applications mean?
[02:04] <cfhowlett> saloomi2012, what programs start automagically when you login
[02:05] <saloomi2012> how do i know that?
[02:05] <saloomi2012> cfhowlett
[02:05] <rurufufuss> what possible reasons for copy speeds being really slow, while hard drive testing (i.e hdparm) shows everything is ok?
[02:05] <cfhowlett> saloomi2012, see the startup applications?  Those.
[02:05] <NathanWW> what version of ubuntu should i use to install on a panasonic toughbook cf-28, it has the intel intel 82830 video chipset, 364meg ram 600mhz P3 cpu. ? anyu recomendations
[02:05] <saloomi2012> where would that be located i dont even know what System > Preferences > Startup Applications means cfhowlett
[02:05] <rurufufuss> hdparm test shows that read speed is at 100mb/s, but cp (as shown in gcp) is going at 1.0mb/s..
[02:05] <cfhowlett> NathanWW, lubuntu or xubuntu are lightweight distros optimized for older and low spec machines
[02:06] <k1l> NathanWW: wich a big amount of luck Lubuntu will run
[02:06] <mgolisch> rurufufuss: what are you copying? and to where?
[02:06] <NathanWW> what about a netbook 10.10 ubuntu version?
[02:06] <NathanWW> any thoughts there?
[02:06] <k1l> NathanWW: but with that old cpu there will be some problems maybe. so no guarantee here.
[02:06] <rurufufuss> mgolisch: from disk to ramdrive, from disk to same disk
[02:06] <cfhowlett> NathanWW, I think 10.10 is no longer supported ...
[02:06] <rurufufuss> mgolisch: both are very very slow
[02:06] <fat> does any1 here use CAIRO DOCK?
[02:06] <k1l> NathanWW: 10.10 is out of support.
[02:07] <duckx0r> escott, i was able to figure out how to write to the live USB, so i'll just copy the files there and then copy them back to the hard drive after install
[02:07] <saloomi2012> Hello what does  System > Preferences > Startup Applications mean and how to use it?
[02:07] <nezZario> what's the next in line as far as 'unstableness' in ubuntu after lts ?
[02:07] <cfhowlett> saloomi2012, use it to do what?
[02:07] <NathanWW> bugger i can get debian lenny to run but the new version dropped support of my graphics chipset lol
[02:07] <nezZario> sorry, mostly deal with debian, this guy installed ubuntu so I figure i'll try to get the ins & outs real quick..
[02:07] <saloomi2012> what does it even mean cfhowlett?
[02:07] <saloomi2012> is it like a terminal command or what?
[02:07] <cfhowlett> saloomi2012, as stated, THOSE are the programs that start automatically at launch.
[02:07] <mgolisch> rurufufuss: anything shows up in dmesg?
[02:08] <rurufufuss> mgolisch: what do I do with dmesg?
[02:08] <nearst> dmesg is like log
[02:08] <saloomi2012> and how to modify those? cfhowlett
[02:08] <ryebread761> Anyone here deal with Ubuntu on Macs?
[02:08] <rurufufuss> there's quite a lot of stuff there in dmesg
[02:08] <cfhowlett> saloomi2012, depends on your ubuntu version which is ....?
[02:08] <mgolisch> rurufufuss: it displays logging messages from the kernel
[02:08] <saloomi2012> cfhowlett 12.10
[02:09] <fat> does any1 use cairo dock?
[02:09] <rurufufuss> mgolisch: there's a lot of chrome-related messages there it seems
[02:09] <mgolisch> rurufufuss: maybe pastebin the output of dmesg
[02:09] <saloomi2012> so any idea how cfhowlett?
[02:09] <rurufufuss> mgolisch: http://pastebin.com/TbmnQce1
[02:09] <cfhowlett> saloomi2012, I'm on 12.4 xubuntu so mine differs from yours.  restate your question; I'm on 12.10.  I want program FOO to start automatically on login.  How do I set that up?
[02:10] <cfhowlett> saloomi2012, and someone will help you with it.
[02:10] <rurufufuss> the other thing, I tried using gnome-disks to benchmark it, but it keeps telling me that device/resource is busy
[02:10] <nearst> why not trying todo do-release-upgrade :D
[02:10] <saloomi2012> I'm on 12.10.  I want program FOO to start automatically on login.  How do I set that up?
[02:11] <escott> saloomi2012, gnome-session-properties
[02:11] <nearst> !patience | saloomi2012
[02:11] <saloomi2012> escott where is that located?
[02:12] <nezZario> uh, how the crap do I move off LTS ?
[02:13] <cfhowlett> nezZario, install 12.10 you mean?
[02:13] <escott> saloomi2012, /usr/bin
[02:13] <rurufufuss> hmm, now that I look at dmesg, I see some "SATA link down", what could that mean?
[02:13] <usr13> nezZario: Just change it on the update manager.
[02:13] <plaidcounty> cfhowlett: no dice on the android tether. double checked, though, on my netbook with a broadcom chip on 12.10... works as expected with my router.
[02:13] <nezZario> this is a server.
[02:14] <mgolisch> rurufufuss: did you disconnect disks?
[02:14] <nezZario> shouldn't I be able to change apt sources.list and just update uprgade dist-upgrade ?
[02:14] <k1l> nezZario: set release prompt to not lts
[02:14] <usr13> nezZario: edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and set Prompt=normal
[02:14] <k1l> nezZario: no dont do that
[02:14] <rurufufuss> mgolisch: physically or software-wise? nope
[02:15] <cfhowlett> plaidcounty, that suggests to my mind a setting issue on your box.  Sadly, I don't where to look though.  sorry.  ask again in channel.  you might want to make a text file of the problem and paste it so you don't have to re-type
[02:15] <k1l> nezZario: use do-release-upgrade
[02:15] <usr13> nezZario: But do you really want to move away from LTS on a server?
[02:15] <mgolisch> rurufufuss: might be somekind of powermanagement stuff
[02:15] <saloomi2012> where is the Terminal app located?
[02:15] <rurufufuss> I just realised, that when going on "places" and looking at the devices, I can't mount anything
[02:15] <nezZario> yeah, i'll give it a shot
[02:15] <nezZario> it's a development server anyway
[02:15] <mgolisch> rurufufuss: did you set anything like that?
[02:15] <rurufufuss> mgolisch: hmm, lack of power?
[02:15] <k1l> nezZario: and as a server admin you want to read the manuals and release notes :)
[02:15] <rurufufuss> mgolisch: no idea, I did put in another 16GB of ram onto the CPU
[02:15] <cfhowlett> k1l, you funny!
[02:15] <rurufufuss> to 24GB now
[02:15] <usr13> nezZario: Never mind, it was not a relevant question.  Sorry.
[02:16] <mgolisch> rurufufuss: no more like suspending the channel because of no activity or such
[02:16] <plaidcounty> cfhowlett: thanks. kind of thought that's where this was going :) Wish me luck!
[02:16] <mgolisch> rurufufuss: is this a laptop? did you suspend it by any chance?
[02:16] <rurufufuss> mgolisch: oh, I did suspend the computer
[02:16] <cfhowlett> plaidcounty, best of luck!
[02:16]  * k1l funny?
[02:16] <mgolisch> rurufufuss: that is it then
[02:16] <rurufufuss> the cause of the slow speeds you mean?
[02:17] <rurufufuss> or the SATA link down
[02:17] <cfhowlett> ki1 ... "as a server admin ..."
[02:17] <mgolisch> rurufufuss: the links going down and up
[02:17] <rurufufuss> ah right
[02:17] <mgolisch> rurufufuss: might be related to the bad speed too
[02:17] <mgolisch> rurufufuss: id just try rebooting
[02:17] <rurufufuss> well, the bad speed happens when I reboot too I think
[02:17] <mgolisch> but it usualy shouldnt cause problems like that
[02:18] <rurufufuss> okay, gonna try reboot once more
[02:18] <rurufufuss> thanks for being helpful btw
[02:18] <saloomi2012> How to add the Terminal in startup application prefrences?
[02:19] <gman529> Hey everyone
[02:19] <cfhowlett> gman529, greetings
[02:19] <gman529> I am having some trouble with ubuntu 12.04 that I just can't figure out
[02:19] <escott> saloomi2012, run gnome-session-properties and add your terminal there
[02:19] <jasunto> this is like watching paint dry
[02:19] <nezZario> ok, yeah, i can't even find a single tutorial on how to upgrade debian without the use of gui and packages I don't even have .. :)
[02:20] <saloomi2012> i know escott but where is the terminal located? to i just drag it?
[02:20] <nezZario> i'm just going to change the apt source.list and do what I said, .. can't hurt
[02:20] <escott> saloomi2012, type "which gnome-terminal"
[02:20] <escott> saloomi2012, and it will give you the full path
[02:20] <gman529> Anyone have any idea what would cause the mouse to stop working on the desktop landscape, but work on the unity and title bars
[02:20] <gman529> right click and left click don't work
[02:21] <cfhowlett> nezZario, before you do all that?  might want to check in #ubuntu-server
[02:21] <gman529> also, they don't work on the any programs opened up
[02:21] <gman529> I have googled and googled and I can't find shit
[02:22] <k1l> nezZario: this isnt debian support.
[02:22] <escott> gman529, nautilus isn't running or isn't drawing the desktop
[02:22] <saloomi2012> escott to test that  do i relog ?
[02:22] <Foxhoundz> How do I disable the suggested apps adware Ubuntu installs on my OS by default?
[02:23] <krkelly> is there anyone who could help me with some openvpn issues?
[02:23] <escott> gman529, if its not working in any applications but working for dragging windows then compiz is bugging out
[02:23] <cfhowlett> !lens|Foxhoundz,
[02:23] <gman529> hmm
[02:23] <Foxhoundz> cfhowlett: ?
[02:23] <gman529> what is really odd is this is a fresh install
[02:24] <cfhowlett> Foxhoundz, you want to disable amazon lens.  thought there was a factoid ..
[02:24] <rurufufuss> hmm, the slow copying speed is still there :(
[02:24] <gman529> and it works in the ubuntu test desktop
[02:25] <trism> !adlens | Foxhoundz
[02:26] <cfhowlett> gman529, different drivers are active on live boot if I'm not mistaken.  some kind of generic "mouse driver"
[02:26] <cfhowlett> trism, thanks.
[02:26] <nezZario> k1l: wouldn't that be like saying you can't ask about tcip because this isn't bsd support ?
[02:26] <ikla> does unity work well with dual monitors?
[02:26] <cfhowlett> Foxhoundz, or logout, choose a different Desktop Environment and log in.
[02:26] <DJHenjin_> rsync is faster and more efficient than scp ove ssh via CLI right?
[02:26] <k1l> nezZario: cmon
[02:26] <cfhowlett> nezZario, regardless this ain
[02:27] <cfhowlett> aint' debian support.
[02:27] <gman529> cfhowlett, so all I would need to do is change xorg.conf and set the file to use the generic driver
[02:27] <krkelly> is there anyone who could help me with some openvpn issues?
[02:27] <k1l> nezZario: the upgrade process differs alot between debian and ubuntu. so ask the specific support
[02:27] <cfhowlett> gman529, eloquent.  start there
[02:28] <usr13> !topic | nezZario
[02:28] <gman529> cfhowlet, I know linux, but this new ubuntu is really different and I haven't kept up
[02:28] <cfhowlett> gman529, no worries.  we're ALL learning.
[02:28] <gman529> cfhowlet, Thanks for the info thought.
[02:29] <ikla> does unity work well with dual monitors?
[02:29] <gman529> ikla, yes if you can get it working
[02:29] <Tex_Nick> 21.10 gnome classic de ... i recently added a second monitor, no problems ... when i reboot, only the monitor without my panels is active ... the kludge i've come up with is to right-click on desktop & choose "change desktop background" then click the "all settings" tab & then Displays ... i then check "mirror displays" & apply ... the inactive monitor becomes active ... i then uncheck "mirror displays" and the second monitor remains ac
[02:29] <Tex_Nick> tive ... i've googled and not found anything quite like this ... couls someone provide a more elegant solution ;-)
[02:29] <k1l> gman529: there is no old desktop in unoty
[02:29] <k1l> *unity
[02:29] <mgolisch> rurufufuss: hm has it ever been faster?
[02:29] <fbc_> cfhowlett, I think I figured this out. I'm supposed to be using the amd64+mac images
[02:29] <k1l> gman529: so you cant place dektop icons on your desktop etc. (by default)
[02:30] <ikla> gman529, I thought ubuntu didn't require me to get things working
[02:30] <cfhowlett> fbc_, dern details!
[02:30] <rurufufuss> mgolisch: yeah, after 12.10 for like one day, then I installed new rams, then it's super slow now
[02:30] <cfhowlett> fbc_, but I should have asked ...
[02:30] <gman529> ikla, the dual monitors does require some settings adjustment and possible driver selection
[02:30] <rurufufuss> mgolisch: but then the ramdrive speed is super fast, so it can't be ram issue can it?
[02:31] <gman529> ikla, but that has been something with linux for awhile
[02:31] <ikla> once agazin I thought ubuntu licked your butt and did it all for you :)
[02:31] <nearst> rurufufuss, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/check-ram-in-ubuntu/ :D
[02:31] <ikla> I'll try it out and see
[02:31] <gman529> k1l, but I could right click on desktop landscape on the test desktop and i get the menu
[02:31] <tcstar> So, it seems as though thunderbird doesn't allow for custom servers for mail.. it wants either imap. or pop3. in the URL which I don't have on my server...  So, what's an alternative email client that's decent to run?
[02:31] <gman529> k1l, once it's installed I get nothing
[02:32] <nearst> tcstar, im use claw-mail or mutt.
[02:32] <k1l> gman529: afaik its the regular behaviour in unity. i think you can set the oldschool behaviour anywhere but i dont know where
[02:33] <k1l> gman529: i cant click on my desktop too
[02:33] <rurufufuss> nearst: 24202 total mem, I'm assuming megabytes?
[02:33] <rurufufuss> and around 23 gigs free
[02:33] <Mathnerd314> so, I'm trying to use redshift with my Proview PLW2230WDBi. The main thing I'd like is a brightness control. Apparently DDCcontrol has been abandoned for many years. Is there a replacement? There's something called /sys/class/backlight but I don't see anything there.
[02:33] <nezZario> nope prolly kilobytes
[02:33] <gman529> can you click inside of programs
[02:33] <nearst> rurufufuss, aw. chipset mobo ? or some kernel modules then
[02:33] <k1l> gman529: yes
[02:34] <tcstar> nearst -- thanks -- i'll take a look at those too..  installing Evolution right now
[02:34] <escott> rurufufuss, you installed additional ram and your machine got slower?
[02:34] <rurufufuss> nearst: hmm, it's an asrock h77, if that makes a difference. I might try removing the two new rams and see if this helps with anything
[02:34] <gman529> k1l, I can't actually interact with programs with my mouse
[02:34] <rurufufuss> escott: well, now that I think about it, yeah
[02:34] <gman529> at all
[02:34] <escott> rurufufuss, if that is the case can you run "dmesg | head -n 200" and paste it to paste.ubuntu.com
[02:34] <gman529> except highlight
[02:34] <rurufufuss> escott: doing that now
[02:35] <k1l> gman529: ahh. ok. i missread that you only couldnt click on the desktop (wallpaper)
[02:35] <rurufufuss> escott: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5560432/
[02:35] <escott> k1l, yeah i read it the same way at first
[02:36] <gman529> k1l: I'm going to try and set it back to the generic driver in the xorg.conf
[02:36] <gman529> I really hate compiz and unity
[02:36] <gman529> if the make it so difficult to work with
[02:36] <escott> rurufufuss, looks like you may have an MTRR issue
[02:37] <gman529> for example my desktop just locked and I can't click on the unlock button
[02:37] <rurufufuss> escott: is that something solvable by googling, or do I need new hardware :(
[02:37] <nearst> MTRR default type: uncachable
[02:38] <rurufufuss> so I have to go to bios and do stuff?
[02:38] <escott> rurufufuss, im not too familiar with them except that you can have issues with them. check beyond line 200 of dmesg to see if the kernel eventually finds a suitable way to program it, but usually the kernel won't struggle to find an MTRR program
[02:39] <escott> rurufufuss, you might also check for a bios update or ask in a channel like ##hardware
[02:39] <nearst> mtrr cleanup actually
[02:39] <rurufufuss> ah, hmm
[02:40] <escott> rurufufuss, also are you running 64bit? i cant tell from that dmesg
[02:40] <rurufufuss> escott: 32bit
[02:40] <escott> rurufufuss, it looks like you are running 32bit in which case i would suggest reinstalling a 64bit version
[02:41] <rurufufuss> escott: I have to use 32bit, this linux box is solely used to compiling simulated iphone apps on opengl :/
[02:41] <krkelly_> can someone help with openvpn on ubuntu?
[02:42] <escott> rurufufuss, and why can't you do that from 64bit?
[02:42] <nearst> maybe kernel reallocation.
[02:42] <rurufufuss> escott: well, I'll have to install the 32 bit libraries and stuff, seems like a lot more hassle
[02:43] <rurufufuss> I'm gonna try removing the two new rams first and see if that's truly the case though
[02:44] <nearst> how much ram slot u have atm :D
[02:44] <escott> he already left. i was going to ask him the same
[02:44] <escott> oh well
[02:45] <gman529> where is ubuntu's xorg.conf
[02:45] <nearst> ive dont another spare for ram putting ram now. hehe
[02:45] <cfhowlett> gman529, in terminal:  locate xorg.conf
[02:45] <escott> gman529, it wont have one by default
[02:45] <gman529> the one in /etc/X11/ doesn't have anything
[02:45] <gman529> i did the locate xorg.conf
[02:46] <nearst> new amd driver 13.1 not yet being support on xorg 1.13?
[02:48] <DJHenjin_> iknonia, its Hunterdouglas here from earlier, you around?
[02:50] <rurufufuss> hmm, after removing one of the rams, and starting up, I quickly tried to copy a file and it was faster, though still slow
[02:50] <escott> rurufufuss, what are your stick sizes and what slots are they in
[02:50] <rurufufuss> now the ram's in slot #1 and #3, but now copying 2 gigs to the memory  is going at 6.50 M/s
[02:50] <escott> rurufufuss, and what version of DDR is this
[02:51] <rurufufuss> DDR3, 8GB stick, at slots #1 and #3 now
[02:51] <rurufufuss> it was slots #1, #2 and #3 (out of 4 possible slots before)
[02:51] <escott> rurufufuss, and before it was?
[02:51] <nearst> same model? or mix from any different freq?
[02:51] <DJHenjin_> hmm, for some reason when i do service vsftpd restart  it tells me unknown process then apf start running
[02:51] <rurufufuss> before it was at 1.31M/s
[02:52] <rurufufuss> escott: I'm gonna try go back to the 1 stick of ram, and see how it goes
[02:52] <escott> rurufufuss, i cant remember all the DDR slot matching rules, but having 3/4 slots full is decidedly odd
[02:52] <rurufufuss> escott: well, the 4th one was dead on arrival, and I'm gonna return it today
[02:52] <rurufufuss> just got it yesterday
[02:53] <escott> rurufufuss, 6.5MB/s is along the lines of DDR3-800
[02:53] <rurufufuss> ok, looks like copying 2 gigs of things is stuck at 6.5ghz
[02:53] <rurufufuss> 6.5mb/s sorry
[02:53] <rurufufuss> actually shouldn't ram be way faster than that?
[02:53] <escott> rurufufuss, sorry misreading the table
[02:53] <escott> rurufufuss, off by a factor of 100
[02:53] <escott> :)
[02:54] <rurufufuss> yeah, it's pretty slow aye
[02:54] <rurufufuss> well, I'mm gonna try again and see
[02:54] <escott> rurufufuss, i would worry that you did something that makes these unmatched in a way that is causing problems for theOS
[02:55] <DJHenjin_> for some reason VSFTPD is not running, i am not seeing any errors when i run service vsftpd start  but it refuses to run
[02:55] <nearst> try with default setting in bios and run in single mode
[02:56] <mgolisch> DJHenjin_: checked its logfile?
[02:56] <DJHenjin_> mgolisch:  not entirely sure where to look, /var/log/vsftpd.log ?
[02:57] <tcstar> just found out my issue with my email is that my server (or something) is blocking me on port 25 (as i can't telnet to it)
[02:57] <mgolisch> DJHenjin_: probably i dont have that installed
[02:57] <szx> why does ubuntu not remember mouse pointer speed in settings?
[02:57] <DJHenjin_> isnt there, hmm
[02:58] <rurufufuss> yeah, it was definitely the extra ram
[02:58] <rurufufuss> :(
[02:58] <mgolisch> DJHenjin_: you run that service thing using sudo?
[02:58] <escott> rurufufuss, you've done something to break the matching of the ram
[02:58] <rurufufuss> escott: it's the same ram though, I think
[02:59] <escott> rurufufuss, its always just easier to buy matched products and use them matched
[02:59] <nearst> maybe ram freq u install
[02:59] <leptone> hello trying to set up rotate cube on 12.04. each time i press Ctrl+Alt+Down my system crashes and i have to reboot. whats going on?
[02:59] <DJHenjin_> mgolisch:  yes i did run it as sudo
[02:59] <rurufufuss> nearst: is that a command?
[02:59] <nearst> rurufufuss, eh.. no.. im mean your ram Mhz installed
[03:00] <rurufufuss> escott: I bought multiple 8196MB ram x 1, they're the same thing, so should theoretically work right?
[03:00] <rurufufuss> or could it be because they're meant to be used single? (when it says x1)
[03:00] <rurufufuss> ok, looks like off to ##hardware it is
[03:01] <escott> rurufufuss, check the serial number
[03:01] <escott> rurufufuss, there is also a command to dump all the info from the RAM
[03:01] <escott> rurufufuss, dmidecode
[03:02] <rurufufuss> escott: the receipt says they're all the same, and when I think about it, ramdrive performance (after my code is copied to the ram) was pretty fast
[03:02] <rurufufuss> is there a ram speed test for ubuntu?
[03:02] <escott> rurufufuss, you could run memtest
[03:02] <escott> rurufufuss, what were you doing when performance was slow?
[03:03] <rurufufuss> nothing, I removed the ram and it's fast
[03:03] <nearst> usually dmidecode
[03:03] <KromiX> just do memtest86+ :P
[03:03] <rurufufuss> by fast, I mean the speed of cp operation
[03:03] <rurufufuss> hmm, command not found
[03:03] <nearst> ya. memtest is worth a shot
[03:03] <rurufufuss> memtest or memtest86+
[03:03] <nearst> memtest at grub?
[03:04] <rurufufuss> at grub? hmm
[03:05] <nearst> memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin
[03:05] <DJHenjin_> mgolisch: no logs being generated, no errors, just fails to keep running
[03:06] <rurufufuss> ok brb then
[03:06] <DJHenjin_> ps aux | grep vsftpd shows me a pid of 21736 but on the far right vsftpd is in red, and if i try kill -9 21736 it tells me there is no such process
[03:06] <daviker> wow .. i havent used IRC for years
[03:07] <escott> DJHenjin_, is it a zombie process?
[03:07] <DJHenjin_> escott, how do i tell?
[03:07] <usr13> daviker: Why? :)
[03:07] <keithclark> is there a colour ansi terminal emulator out there for ubuntu?
[03:07] <escott> DJHenjin_, or are you seeing your "grep" process when you grep
[03:07] <daviker> this is too much like reading log files at work... bye
[03:08] <nearst> colour ansi?
[03:08] <rurufufuss> hmm, can't find any memtest on grub :(
[03:08] <keapon> Greets All
[03:08] <leptone> can domeone please help me get my rotate cube working. the computer crashes each time i press Ctrl+Alt+down. and i cant seem to find an article that addresses this.
[03:09] <keithclark> nearst, yes, like to access BBS systems
[03:09] <nearst> leptone, u using nvidia or amd?
[03:09] <COLORS> Hello
[03:10] <DJHenjin_> top does not show vsftpd running
[03:10] <COLORS> I'm back :P Anyone need help?
[03:10] <nearst> keithclark, http://techtinkering.com/2010/02/14/getting-colour-ansi-emulation-to-work-properly-when-connecting-to-a-bbs-with-telnet-under-linux/
[03:10] <escott> DJHenjin_, why dont you just paste this grep line
[03:10] <leptone> nearst, nvidia
[03:10] <azizLIGHTS> if i put a dir into the trash, where does it go in the filesystem? i cant permantly delte the dir in the trash because i dont have permissions or something. i want to remove the file from the cli now using sudo. where is trash stored?
[03:10] <keapon> I'm trying to record video from my webcam but audio from a bluetooth headset...VLC doesn't seem to work right on the audio
[03:11] <COLORS> azizLIGHTS., undelete the dir, now use sudo rm on it
[03:11] <escott> azizLIGHTS, its in the users trash folder which is usually ~/.trash
[03:11] <DJHenjin_> root     22743  0.0  0.0   8584   912 pts/0    S+   22:11   0:00 grep --color=auto vsftpd
[03:11] <azizLIGHTS> ok, will try both
[03:11] <COLORS> You can also use ~./trash
[03:11] <azizLIGHTS> thanks
[03:11] <COLORS> Ok
[03:11] <DJHenjin_> ./\ is the result of ps aux | grep vsftpd
[03:11] <leptone> COLORS, yes i need help getting my rotate cube to work. after enabling cube Ctrl+alt+down crashes my system and i have to hard reboot.
[03:12] <escott> DJHenjin_, thats the grep process. when you ps aux | grep, both are started simultaneously. when ps gets the process list it includes the grep process
[03:12] <COLORS> Leptone that would be a Compiz thing- have you been changeing stuff in CCSM?
[03:12] <nearst> leptone, there is a lot of crashing compiz related out there. best way is go to other de
[03:12] <DJHenjin_> escott:  as i have said before vsftpd is not running
[03:13] <leptone> nearst, other de?
[03:13] <keithclark> nearst, that seems to fit the bill, thanks!
[03:13] <escott> DJHenjin_, you said "ps aux | grep vsftpd shows me a pid of 21736 but on the far right vsftpd is in red, and if i try kill -9 21736 it tells me there is no such process" which if you understood what you were seeing you would not have asked aobut
[03:13] <leptone> COLORS, well just the settings that articles videos say to change to get the cube working...
[03:13] <COLORS> I have never used Compiz as I do not like it :( IT can be quite finnicky
[03:13] <COLORS> Hmmmm...
[03:13] <COLORS> leptone I would file a bug ticket
[03:13] <nearst> leptone, desktop environment like lxde or xface4 . there is package/driver related still pending thoo
[03:14] <mgolisch> DJHenjin_: did you change anything?
[03:14] <DJHenjin_> escott:  20 minutes ago i said service vsftpd restart tells me that the service is not running already
[03:14] <COLORS> leptone: If it seems to be an error kind of thing- do Ctrl+Alt+T and run "ubuntu-bug compiz"
[03:14] <azizLIGHTS> i restored the dir from trash, and now sudo rm ing. thanks
[03:14] <leptone> nearst, so which desktop environment am i currently using?
[03:15] <COLORS> Cool azizlights glad I could help you
[03:15] <azizLIGHTS> COLORS: thank you :)
[03:15] <COLORS> :P
[03:15] <nearst> leptone, im guess unity if u install default one.
[03:15] <DJHenjin_> this is the only thing i did to vsftpd sudo sed -i 's/chroot_local_user=YES/chroot_local_user=NO/g' /etc/vsftpd.conf
[03:15] <DJHenjin_> sudo service vsftpd restart
[03:15] <COLORS> Yes, it could also be Unity
[03:15] <leptone> COLORS, sry "do" Crtl+alr+down and "run" ubuntu-bug compiz. sry i dont follow once i do Ctrl+alt+down my system will be unusable
[03:15] <mgolisch> DJHenjin_: does your config have listen=YES ? the upstart job will just exit if it doenst have
[03:16] <nearst> ctrl + alt + t
[03:16] <leptone> nearst, ok thats what i thought. i'd like to use unity tho. not an option?
[03:16] <COLORS> No Leptone, do Ctrl+Alt+T and ubuntu-bug compiz, not Ctrl+Alt+Down
[03:16] <DJHenjin_> mgolisch:  yes it has listen=YES right at the top
[03:16] <SunMoonStar> I have a problem -- I tried to install a package (sudo apt-get install nodejs) and it didn't work right, and my file system went into read-only mode. Based on advice on an askubuntu.com answer, I ran "sudo fsck -Af" at which point my screen went blank. I turned the computer off and then on and I got a black screen that said "grub rescue>".. I did a bit of research and decided to try boot-repair. I booted off of USB stick and did Try Ubuntu
[03:16] <leptone> COLORS, sry. got it.
[03:17] <COLORS> letone No problem. I do that kind of mistake all the time. :P
[03:18] <santosh> When I see a spanish layout it shows 4 characters on a key, how do I press keys that are on right side?
[03:19] <leptone> COLORS, it askes my if the issue i am reporting is "related to unity itself rather than compiz" ?
[03:19] <SunMoonStar> ayayay
[03:19] <COLORS> leptone: Select Unity instead of Compiz
[03:20] <DJHenjin_> mgolisch: going to try http://askubuntu.com/questions/128180/vsftpd-stopped-working-after-update
[03:21] <leptone> COLORS, it askes "is the issue reported purley graphical" It is isnt it?
[03:21] <COLORS> leptone: No it is not, it is a crash error
[03:22] <captine> Hi all.  My 12.04.2 locks  up from time to time.  I am thinking of trying a newer kernel from the kernel ppa, but believe this is not officially supported.  i have a question regarding what is in the "extra" kernel package?  is this the right place to ask?
[03:23] <leptone> COLORS, my browser opened to lauchpad login page...
[03:23] <leptone> COLORS, do i need to register?
[03:23] <COLORS> leptone: Yes, you will need to login or register to LP
[03:23] <DrDoom> Greetings. Exist the possibility of my computer talk to me? Like Jarvis.. Not exactely the same.
[03:27] <escott> !tts
[03:27] <escott> DrDoom, there are a number of text to speech applications
[03:27] <escott> DrDoom, can't remember what any are called at the moment. there is an accessibility channel
[03:28] <genii-around> !info espeak
[03:29] <DJHenjin_> mgolisch: now i can connect to the server, but i get libgcc_s.so.1 must be installed for pthread_cancel to work, which is the issue that made me want to stay away from 12.04 in the first place
[03:30] <nearst> back
[03:30] <COLORS> Welcome back nearst
[03:30] <DrDoom> escott: I really would like that my computer talk with me. When I write something and "he" answer or search and all talking. I see one in this link: http://www.howtoadvice.com/UbuntuTalk but is only to trivial things..
[03:31] <COLORS> DrDoom you mean like a CleverBot type of thing?
[03:31] <DrDoom> Not to much!!
[03:31] <nearst> DrDoom, simsimi ? :D
[03:32] <DJHenjin_> trying to install ia32-libs apparently that fixed the pthread_cancel error in a teamspeak server, maybe it will work in vsftpd too
[03:32] <DrDoom> COLORS: CleverBot? I like Jarvis... Ironman.
[03:32] <DrDoom> nearst: simsimi is a software?
[03:32] <normanclegg> I want a computer to talk and communicate with me like the one the badguy used in the movie "Bait"
[03:32] <COLORS> DrDoom I believe you can use Jervis on Ubuntu
[03:33] <nearst> DrDoom, ya. its popular now at android.
[03:33] <DrDoom> nearst: I will see it..Thanks.
[03:34] <DrDoom> COLORS: Jervis is a software?
[03:34] <COLORS> DrDoom http://madlag.github.com/jarvis/
[03:34] <leptone> COLORS, timeout error. satart from begening?
[03:34] <nearst> jarvis
[03:34] <COLORS> !info jarvis
[03:34] <COLORS> :(
[03:34] <COLORS> No  info
[03:35] <DJHenjin_> install libpam-ldap problem solved
[03:35] <DrDoom> !info jervis
[03:35] <DrDoom> Jervis too...
[03:35] <normanclegg> Jarvis
[03:35] <DrDoom> wait.
[03:35] <DrDoom> !info Jervis
[03:35] <Folorn> good evening everyone
[03:35] <COLORS> leptone: No, just refresh
[03:35] <DrDoom> Too bad.
[03:36] <COLORS> leptone: LP is being crazy lately
[03:36] <nearst> yaa COLORS , agree that
[03:37] <COLORS> nearst: Lots of 405's and 503's
[03:37] <DrDoom> nearst: It is just foe Android..
[03:37] <normanclegg> DrDoom  you mean something like this ? http://askubuntu.com/questions/63743/voice-control-over-desktop-enviornment
[03:37] <DrDoom> **for
[03:38] <DrDoom> normanclegg: Voice control is appropriate. I will see.
[03:38] <nearst> Assistive Technology & Accessibility?
[03:38] <leptone> COLORS, not working still getting the timeout error
[03:39] <COLORS> Grrrr hate these timouts
[03:39] <COLORS> leptone: Keep refreshing :< Sorry, it's just that LP is having server problems
[03:40] <NathanWW> what varient of ubuntu runs on older slow systems IE p3 600mhz laptop with 385 ram :-D
[03:40] <normanclegg> DrDoom  with KDE, there is Simon - Simon is a speech recognition program that can replace the mouse and keyboard.
[03:40] <genii-around> NathanWW: xubuntu, lubuntu
[03:41] <NathanWW> wich is best bet tho
[03:41] <NathanWW> or whats the dif between xu or lu?
[03:41] <nearst> xu is xfce and lu is lxde
[03:41] <escott> NathanWW, XFCE vs LXDE
[03:41] <normanclegg> NathanWW  you'd want a linux that uses lxde or openbox imho
[03:42] <axisys> #juju is the quietest channel .. anyone know a fix for this?
[03:42] <axisys> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5560539/
[03:42] <NathanWW> i wanted debian as i know it but the latest stable release no longer supports this hardware mainly the intel 82830 graphics chipset
[03:42] <nearst> my pc now with mini.iso install then install lubuntu-core
[03:42] <DrDoom> normanclegg: I am using KDE.. The another is for gnome.
[03:42] <ikillcypher> hello guys Im having trouble writing a x64 Ubuntu into my USB Disk
[03:43] <ikillcypher> it does seems recogized at boot
[03:43] <normanclegg> DrDoom  does Simon work well in KDE ?
[03:43] <NathanWW> thanks guys
[03:43] <DrDoom> normanclegg: I do not know. I want test it and see.
[03:46] <normanclegg> DrDoom http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech_recognition_in_Linux  and of course Chrome and Opera browsers both have voice command ability
[03:46] <leptone> COLORS, doesnt appear to be changing... no attempt at a a solution?
[03:46] <WBF> COLORS, your back :D
[03:47] <axisys> export LC_ALL="en_US.UTF-8" fixed it
[03:47] <COLORS> leptone: Hmmmm... I can't do anything :(
[03:47] <COLORS> WBF: Thanks :P
[03:47] <nearst> ouh. locale issue?
[03:47] <DJHenjin_> this channel is too spammy, going to leave unless i need some more help, thanks guys for all the help thogh
[03:48] <sudopinion> hi everyone
[03:48] <nearst> hi sudopinion
[03:48] <COLORS> Hi sudopinion :D
[03:49] <SunMoonStar> (03:48:23 AM) SunMoonStar: Hey guys. I am on the usb live stick now. fdisk -l still shows no output but df -H shows this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5560556/ My Linux partition is not there! It should be another 500 gb partition. dev/sda2 is my windows partition and dev/sdc1 is my backup drive. and wtf is /cow?? Is all my stuff gone!?
[03:49] <sudopinion> i'm running mint 11 and want to upgrade to 14.   Can i upgrade with the iso, or can i somehow zip up my profile so I can retain my preferences and settings for after a reinstall?
[03:49] <SunMoonStar> Sorry, copy pasting from ##linux but I am in a serious shit here :O!
[03:49] <SunMoonStar> can someone help?
[03:51] <COLORS> sudopinion This channel is for Ubuntu, sorry :( You will need to use the Linux Mint help channel, sorry
[03:51] <nearst> sudopinion, try check do-release-upgrade
[03:52] <SunMoonStar> If anyone can help with my issue please do tell me
[03:53] <SunMoonStar> I am just waiting around I think my partition is gone
[03:54] <mgolisch> SunMoonStar: try sudo fdisk -l
[03:54] <escott> SunMoonStar, only mounted partitions show up in df
[03:54] <cfhowlett> !mint|SunMoonStar,
[03:54] <mgolisch> SunMoonStar: it will not show anything if your not root
[03:54] <escott> mgolisch, SunMoonStar don't use fdisk. use parted
[03:54] <nearst> :)
[03:54] <normanclegg> SunMoonStar  what happened to cause the problem to begin with ?
[03:55] <SunMoonStar> normanclegg: I don't know I tried to install nodejs with apt-get install and my partition went into read-only mode. I tried fsck -Al or whatever the command was and it went blank. I restarted the computer and got <grub rescue> prompt and that's it.
[03:55] <SunMoonStar> I am on livecd now
[03:55] <mgolisch> SunMoonStar: is this a wubi install? or is this a real ubuntu install?
[03:55] <SunMoonStar> I want to back up my linux parition
[03:55] <SunMoonStar> mgolisch: real
[03:55] <normanclegg> SunMoonStar  yeah, look at it with parted like escott said
[03:56] <SunMoonStar> ok but what do i do after i open parted
[03:56] <SunMoonStar> I want to A) back up my linux partition and B) restore it .. people told me my hard drive is failing
[03:56] <usr13> SunMoonStar: You may have Hard Drive problems.  Run fsck from liveCD.
[03:57] <escott> SunMoonStar, if you are using parted interactively the command is "p" i believe. but i was suggesting "sudo parted -l"
[03:57] <usr13> SunMoonStar: http://www.linux.com/news/enterprise/storage/8200-back-up-like-an-expert-with-rsync
[03:58] <usr13> ... and  #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[03:59] <SunMoonStar> Can someone walk me through this?
[03:59] <usr13> SunMoonStar: Backup?
[03:59] <SunMoonStar> yes, I think I need to mount my linux partition
[03:59] <SunMoonStar> and back it up
[04:00] <usr13> SunMoonStar: http://www.linux.com/news/enterprise/storage/8200-back-up-like-an-expert-with-rsync
[04:00] <SunMoonStar> usr13: thanks but I have to mount the partition first
[04:00] <normanclegg> rsync would not seem to be the choice for a one time partition backup
[04:00] <SunMoonStar> ok im all ears
[04:00] <usr13> SunMoonStar: mkdir sda2/ ; sudo mount /dev/sda2 sda2/
[04:01] <SunMoonStar> how do you know I need sda2
[04:01] <usr13> SunMoonStar: Or, as normanclegg suggests, you can back up the whole partition.
[04:01] <usr13> SunMoonStar: ... was just an example.... I DON'T know.
[04:01] <SunMoonStar> well, if I can backup my home folder that would be sufficient
[04:02] <usr13> SunMoonStar: Exactly
[04:02] <SunMoonStar> alright
[04:02] <SunMoonStar> let me try this sigh
[04:02] <tk_> :)
[04:03] <DrDoom> If I would use Jarvis, I'll have too program everything in text mode.. It is fascinating. Maybe is only for mac... I am not sure about that.
[04:03] <normanclegg> SunMoonStar  systemrescuecd and clonezilla would both have the tools you need. Both are easy to use
[04:03] <usr13> SunMoonStar: rsync -avhe ssh --delete /sda2/home/SunMoonStar/ user@remote.host.com:dir/  #See:  http://www.linux.com/news/enterprise/storage/8200-back-up-like-an-expert-with-rsync
[04:04] <usr13> SunMoonStar: Or if you have a thumb drive big enough just use that.
[04:04] <SunMoonStar> I tried sudo mount /dev/sda4 /mnt/tmp and it said "you must specify the filesystem type"
[04:04] <usr13> SunMoonStar: sudo fdisk -l   #See what you have.
[04:05] <SunMoonStar> /dev/sda4       931620864  1943525375   505952256   83  Linux
[04:05] <nearst> fsck it then. :D
[04:05] <usr13> SunMoonStar: May be too late.
[04:05] <SunMoonStar> why?
[04:05] <SunMoonStar> is there something ominous in what I just pasted?
[04:06] <SunMoonStar> what's the type?
[04:06] <usr13> SunMoonStar: But, as I said before, run fsck on it.  sudo fsck -y /dev/sda4
[04:06] <SunMoonStar> usr13: ok but I shouldn't try to back it up first?
[04:07] <SunMoonStar> I'm not going to be able to mount it? it is asking for a type
[04:07] <usr13> SunMoonStar: If you can't read it, you can't back it up.  Fix it first.
[04:07] <SunMoonStar> someone else told me to try mount --t fstype /dev...... but it said fstype is unknown
[04:07] <usr13> SunMoonStar: ... you don't have a choice ...
[04:07] <SunMoonStar> oh
[04:07] <SunMoonStar> well f*ck
[04:07] <SunMoonStar> :\
[04:08] <nearst> i believe current kernel able to handle the fstype mount
[04:08] <usr13> SunMoonStar:  #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[04:08] <SunMoonStar> why are you telling me about linux mint
[04:08] <usr13> SunMoonStar: Because you are on the wrong channel.
[04:08] <lb27> SunMoonStar: haven't you heard?
[04:09] <SunMoonStar> this is an ubuntu install and I'm in the ubuntu channel
[04:09] <SunMoonStar> how am I in the wrong channel?
[04:09] <nearst> lsb_release -a
[04:09] <usr13> SunMoonStar: I thought you said it was mint.  Sorry.
[04:11] <cfhowlett> you DID say you were on mint
[04:11] <SunMoonStar> wha?
[04:11] <SunMoonStar> no i didn't but I kept getting people telling me to go to mint
[04:11] <tk_> mint is gross
[04:11] <usr13> SunMoonStar: What does  lsb_release -i  say?
[04:12] <SunMoonStar> mount -t fstype /dev/sda4 /mnt/tmp   -- gives me "fstype unknown"...
[04:12] <SunMoonStar> err
[04:12] <SunMoonStar> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[04:12] <cfhowlett> and I quote:   i'm running mint 11 and want to upgrade to 14.   Can i upgrade with the iso, or can i somehow zip up my profile so I can retain my preferences and settings for after a reinstall?
[04:12] <SunMoonStar> I'm not retarded
[04:12] <SunMoonStar> I know what os I'm on
[04:12] <FloodBot1> SunMoonStar: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:12] <ryebread761> I got a question: Does a user need to be an Administrator to activate additional drivers?
[04:12] <usr13> SunMoonStar: omit fstype
[04:12] <cfhowlett> ryebread761, by default, yes
[04:12] <jm_> 214950 < sudopinion> i'm running mint 11 and want to upgrade to 14.   Can i upgrade with the iso, or can i somehow zip up my profile so I can retain my preferences and settings for  after a reinstall?
[04:12] <nearst> SunMoonStar, is a guy who need assist about backup this partitions. the mint guy is sudoopinion
[04:12] <escott> !mint | jm_
[04:13] <usr13> SunMoonStar: Omit -t fstype
[04:13] <ryebread761> Is tehre a way to change that (Very preferably from the command line)?
[04:13] <SunMoonStar> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[04:13] <nearst> ryebread761, change what?
[04:13] <cfhowlett> jm_, you are absolutely correct.  I misunderestimateconstrued ... eh, my bad.
[04:14] <usr13> ryebread761: Yes, you need to be admin.   jockey-gtk
[04:14] <ryebread761> jockey-gtk?
[04:14] <roxkYu_> hello..
[04:14] <ryebread761> hi
[04:14] <cfhowlett> roxkYu_, greetings
[04:14] <usr13> ryebread761: You have to switch to a user that has admin rights.
[04:15] <nearst> ryebread761, sudo jockey-gtk
[04:15] <roxkYu_> anyone here knows which channel i can go to , for subject on wake-on LAN?
[04:15] <SunMoonStar> usr13: mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[04:15] <cfhowlett> roxkYu_, start here with details
[04:16] <nearst> roxkYu_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WakeOnLan
[04:16] <usr13> SunMoonStar: After command ___________________ ?
[04:16] <SunMoonStar> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda4 /mnt/tmp
[04:16] <SunMoonStar> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[04:16] <usr13> SunMoonStar: sudo fsck -y /dev/sda4
[04:16] <nearst> im not sure im missing gnome-display-properties.
[04:17] <usr13> SunMoonStar: What version of Ubuntu are you on?    lsb_release -a
[04:17] <SunMoonStar> im on the live cd
[04:17] <SunMoonStar> of ubuntu 12.10
[04:17] <SunMoonStar> the partition in question was ubuntu 12.10 also
[04:18] <usr13> SunMoonStar: Ok
[04:19] <ryebread761>  Hmm.. I made this account an admin, logged out, logged back in and still don't see my wireless and graphics drivers in the additional drivers section
[04:19] <ryebread761> they were there in the live DVD
[04:19] <ryebread761> any ideas?
[04:19] <cfhowlett> ryebread761, you need to be on a wired connection ...
[04:20] <roxkYu_> cfhowlett,nearst: Thanks.
[04:20] <nearst> SunMoonStar, try chroot and fsck your partitions
[04:20] <ryebread761> To get the additional drivers? So I need internet to get internet? Uh oh...
[04:20] <usr13> SunMoonStar: What filesystem is on /dev/sda4 ?
[04:21] <cfhowlett> ryebread761, what driver are you after?
[04:21] <roxkYu_> i am trying to use WOL over the internet..  (i have a rought idea of how it works)
[04:21] <ryebread761> The broadcomm wireless one
[04:21] <cfhowlett> ryebread761, what version of ubuntu and what hardware?
[04:21] <roxkYu_> but i am wondering why it need a port number for WOL when sending the magic packet?
[04:21] <nearst> roxkYu_, most wol setting on bios now :D
[04:21] <pringlescan> I have python-software-properties installed… and I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling it but add-apt-repository is missing from /usr/bin even though that's where apt-file says it should be… I'm on a fresh install of 12.10, any ideas?
[04:21] <escott> roxkYu_, over the internet?
[04:21] <ryebread761> Ubuntu 12.10, Hardware is a MacbookPro 7,1
[04:22] <escott> roxkYu_, usually only works within the subet
[04:22] <escott> subnet
[04:22] <roxkYu_> escott : yes over the internet.
[04:22] <usr13> SunMoonStar: sudo fdisk -l |grep sda4
[04:22] <roxkYu_> it can be done from the information i googled out.
[04:22] <cfhowlett> ryebread761, hmm.  ok this might be exact but ... the files you need are actually on the ISO and can be extracted and deployed with a few terminal commands.  I think.  Never done it on a mac
[04:23] <cfhowlett> ryebread761, see  this tutorial the STA No Internet Access section
[04:23] <cfhowlett> http://turbolinux.org/2011/07/ubuntu-broadcom-bcm43xx-chipset-pci/
[04:23] <SunMoonStar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5560604/
[04:24] <escott> roxkYu_, most i have heard of require the frame to come from the subnet
[04:24] <cfhowlett> ryebread761, I skipped the "patch" install command and used the other 3.  wifi came right up.
[04:24] <escott> roxkYu_, you can get around that by causing your router to emit the packet
[04:24] <cfhowlett> ryebread761, but, again, never done this with a mac
[04:24] <roxkYu_> ok
[04:24] <usr13> SunMoonStar: sudo fsck.ext4 /dev/sda4
[04:25] <usr13> SunMoonStar: If it is ext4  ....
[04:25] <ryebread761> I don't think it's any different, but could be wrong
[04:25] <roxkYu_> let me try it again..
[04:25] <usr13> SunMoonStar: But fsck  should work.
[04:25] <roxkYu_> bye
[04:25] <ryebread761> But if I have an internet connection, will the drivers pull themselves in?
[04:25] <pringlescan> I can't use add-apt-repository, apt think's python-software-properties is installed but it's not, my default python interpreter is 2.7
[04:25] <usr13> SunMoonStar: If it is not terribly trashed, it will detect the filesystem.  If it is trashed beyone recognition, well it's over.
[04:26] <escott> SunMoonStar, another thing you can try is to tell fsck to try the backup superblock
[04:26] <cfhowlett> ryebread761, yep
[04:26] <usr13> *beyond*
[04:27] <ryebread761> Hmm, well maybe I could take the adapter on this computer (Ubuntu recognizes these drivers by default), put t in the Mac, get the driver, and put the adapter abck in this computer
[04:28] <ryebread761> I'll give it a try, hopefully back with good results, bye for now
[04:29] <usr13> SunMoonStar: As escott suggests, read the -b superblock section of the man file.
[04:29] <rootpt> ?? ati
[04:30] <rootpt> !ati
[04:30] <usr13> SunMoonStar: Read the -b superblock section of the man file.    man e2fsck
[04:31] <rootpt> !radeon
[04:31] <escott> rootpt, is there something we can help you with?
[04:32] <usr13> SunMoonStar:  sudo e2fsck /dev/sda4   #See what that does
[04:32] <PadNet_201> have a cmake problem, FindKDE4Internal.cmake not found in ~/share/apps, what do i do now
[04:33] <rootpt> escott:  a frind of mine can not install the correct grafic drivers
[04:33] <SunMoonStar> usr13: it's doing the fsck now
[04:33] <rootpt> ati radeon mobility 4570 hd
[04:33] <SunMoonStar> taking a while
[04:33] <escott> rootpt, its ok to admit you are having a problem with linux. you dont have to make up a friend. there is no shaming here :)
[04:34] <escott> rootpt, a lot of laptops have switchable graphics these days
[04:34] <nearst> amdlegacy work well on precise. :(
[04:34] <rootpt> escott: my frind is here
[04:34] <rootpt> SonOfGod:
[04:34] <SonOfGod> yes
[04:34] <rootpt> talk do escott
[04:34] <escott> rootpt, that can cause some issues. check into vga-switheroo
[04:34] <rootpt> to*
[04:34] <nearst> ya.. vga-switheroo. gudluck. :)
[04:34] <SonOfGod> escott  iḿ realy new in ubuntu
[04:35] <SonOfGod> :|
[04:35] <jm_> switcheroo
[04:35] <rootpt> SonOfGod: i've got to go, he will help u
[04:36] <escott> SonOfGod, hybrid/switchable graphics are not something you want to get into your first time out. its still very rough around the edges
[04:36] <usr13> rootpt: Did your friend try   sudo jockey-gtk   ?
[04:36] <SonOfGod> i do beelive
[04:36] <nearst> hopefully raring making big improvement on that
[04:36] <usr13> SonOfGod: sudo jockey-gtk
[04:37] <SonOfGod> usr13  not found
[04:37] <escott> its no longer jockey
[04:37] <usr13> O
[04:37] <escott> SonOfGod, its now in software-settings
[04:37] <rekha> is there a way to install ubuntu on a laptop with a broken screen, perhaps using another computer and ssh or vnc?
[04:38] <escott> usr13, jockey got ditched entirely
[04:38] <usr13> escott: Ok thanks info
[04:39] <SonOfGod> i did use this sudo lshw -C video
[04:39] <usr13> rekha: Don't think so.
[04:39] <kantlivelong> anyone have Core3D working for 3.5 kernel?
[04:39] <kantlivelong> from creative
[04:40] <usr13> SonOfGod:  So, what display adapter(s) do you have?
[04:40] <SonOfGod> ati radeon hd 4570 512mb
[04:40] <SonOfGod> mobility
[04:41] <SonOfGod> 1:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV710 [Mobility Radeon HD 4500/5100 Series]
[04:41] <usr13> SonOfGod: lsmod |grep adeon
[04:42] <SonOfGod> usr13  radeon                895730  3
[04:42] <SonOfGod> ttm                    83596  1 radeon
[04:42] <SonOfGod> drm_kms_helper         49113  1 radeon
[04:42] <SonOfGod> drm                   288721  5 radeon,ttm,drm_kms_helper
[04:42] <SonOfGod> i2c_algo_bit           13414  1 radeon
[04:42] <FloodBot1> SonOfGod: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:42] <usr13> SonOfGod: http://askubuntu.com/questions/93941/ubuntu-11-10-and-mobility-radeon-hd-4570-512mb-cant-find-working-drivers
[04:43] <nearst> SonOfGod, if ure on precise. jockey will work. if quantal. xorg is not yet support. radeon vesa would help then amdlegacy bin
[04:43] <usr13> ... must go now ... Good night all.
[05:01] <justin`> hello
[05:03] <nearst> hi
[05:07] <aetaric_> Trying to install 12.10 on a MacBookPro4,1. The mac ISO refuses to even show GRUB and the normal ISO won't get far past it.
[05:07] <aetaric_> any ideas?
[05:08] <nearst> ure trying clean install? dual boot or on vm?
[05:08] <aetaric_> i want to wipe it clean
[05:09] <iagv> hola
[05:10] <MoPac> I'm hoping to find anyone who has had success using GVFS to mount an FTP connection or SMB share as a normal directory.  Mine shows up witha  file explorer in /usr/share...GVFS, but not under /home../.gvfs, and other applications can't find it
[05:10] <MoPac> I want to back up to this space, so that's a problem...
[05:10] <myersg> ok, I figured someone here could help me, I am trying to install eclipse on ubuntu. but  does eclipse have a GUI creator like Visual Studios? or an add-on?
[05:11] <myersg> would this be it? http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/packages/eclipse-modeling-tools/junosr1
[05:11] <zebaszp> aetaric_, I'd advise you not wipe it clean, some functionality in Ubuntu actually use OS X drivers (kexts) in order to work properly
[05:11] <nearst> sudo apt-cache search eclipse?
[05:11] <aetaric_> zebaszp, i have the kexts backed up
[05:12] <zebaszp> I think the tools still search for the kexts only in their original path, but I'm not certain
[05:13] <aetaric_> in the past the only one i needed was the isight driver
[05:14] <zebaszp> aertaric_ did you check the isos with MD5? maybe that's the problem
[05:14] <myersg> does the eclipse project have a IRC? if so can someone point me to them
[05:14] <aetaric_> grabbed them via torrent and verrified them, with the MD5's
[05:15] <nearst> myersg, http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC
[05:15] <myersg> thanks
[05:17] <zebaszp> aetaric_, I'm sorry but I can't really help much, other than pointing you to the wiki (just in case you haven't read it): https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation#Single-Boot:_Ubuntu_Only
[05:19] <echinos> I have an ASUS UEFI motherboard, AMD bulldozer CPU. When I overclock it at all, ubuntu reboots shortly after the grub menu
[05:19] <echinos> go back to default, boots fine.
[05:20] <echinos> it's got a liquid cooler on the CPU, so it's not overheating
[05:20] <killer> i installed ubuntu on usb and now i want to do installations with it ,so i installed ubiquity on it ,but installer crashes when installer tries to aceess webcam ,what should i do ?
[05:21] <nearst> killer, try disable webcam and process with ubiquity
[05:32] <george_> I removed startup applications from the Software center, but now I can't log back into the machine. I'm prompted for password and when I enter it, i get disconnected and prompted for my password again
[05:32] <george_> any help pleeeease
[05:33] <dr_willis> george_:  what was the exact package name? you could try logging in at the console and reinstall the 'ubuntu-desktop' package
[05:33] <dr_willis> console = alt-crtl-f1 thrugh f6... use f7 to getback to X/
[05:35] <nearst> try to look what going on apt terminal. tail /var/log/apt/term.log
[05:37] <stercor> I'm on 12.10.  How do I get a command window on the desktop?
[05:37] <KromiX> terminal :)
[05:37] <dr_willis> stercor:  you mean a terminal?
[05:37] <Nach0z> stercor: go to your apps thingy and search for "terminal"
[05:37] <stercor> K
[05:37] <KRomeleoN> is libreoffice 4.0 still not available in sw center ??
[05:37] <dr_willis> run the  gnome-terminal app, or alt-ctrl-t
[05:37] <nearst> ctrl+alt+t in unity?
[05:37] <KromiX> http://complete-concrete-concise.com/ubuntu-2/ubuntu-12-10/how-to-get-a-command-line-shell-or-terminal
[05:38] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/252612/how-do-i-install-libreoffice-4/252613#252613
[05:40] <stercor> There is no terminal in the dashboard?...that's the problem.  Ctrl-Alt-t works, though.  It'd be nice to have a terminal on the task bar.
[05:40] <dr_willis> you can add a terminal icon to the launcher. Or use one of the many pulldown terminal apps if you want quick access to one
[05:40] <dr_willis> so its not clear what you want. ;)
[05:40] <dr_willis> !info guake
[05:40] <boom0917>  software cant be authenticated is the message i got  in synaptic  when i marked gparted for install can anyone else see that
[05:44] <iKillCypher> hi guys im having issues here
[05:44] <iKillCypher> create ~/android/system/.repo/local_manifest.xml
[05:49] <jbates58> hi all. hoping someone can help me with some hardware im looking ate getting for m new server. i have a gigabyte GA-X58a-UD5 mobo (http://www.gigabyte.com.au/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3450#ov) and i want to use 9 port multipliers/backplanes (CFI-B53PM 5 Port Backplane (SiI3726 Chipset)) just wondering if there is support in ubuntu for PM's on the sata chipsets on the mobo (there are 2, Intel ICH10R[6 PORTS], Marvel 9128 [2
[05:50] <nearst> run a live cd
[05:51] <jbates58> i havent purchased the hardware yet, kinda want to know if it will work before spending $700 on the multipliers thats all
[05:52] <iKillCypher> http://pastie.org/pastes/6325862/text?key=p9asfbxikfttvfhfxfkug :(
[05:53] <dr_willis> iKillCypher:  ive never heard of the 'create' command.. what are you trying to do exactly?
[05:53] <iKillCypher> http://teamhacksung.org/wiki/index.php/CyanogenMod10.1:How_to_build
[05:53] <dr_willis> iKillCypher:  make an empty file?
[05:54] <killer> when i try to install ubuntu ..when webcam starts it exit with the message (setting camerabin to playing stopped)
[05:54] <killer> that is the installer fails
[05:54] <cara> hmm
[05:54] <iKillCypher> yeah
[05:55] <RUm> can anyone help me with GSoC??
[05:55] <lemonade`> iKillCypher: touch
[05:55] <dr_willis> iKillCypher:  touch filename
[05:55] <iKillCypher> alright thanks
[05:55] <RUm> ??
[05:55] <dr_willis> iKillCypher:  or  echo "" > filename
[05:56] <dr_willis> No idea what a GSOC is rum..
[05:56] <dr_willis> apaently not many others know either
[05:56] <RUm> i no little but dont no how to get in
[05:59] <computerex> Hi. I need help installing acpi. Ubuntu says no candidate is available
[06:00] <dr_willis> apci is a feature of the kernel. not a package - as far as i know
[06:00] <dr_willis> unless you are talking about some differnt acpi
[06:02] <computerex> ah. I am running chrubuntu, ubuntu 12.04 for arm based chromebook
[06:02] <computerex> I am in fluxbox and I need a way to monitor the battery
[06:02] <computerex> the battery applet in gnome works fine
[06:03] <computerex> is there a way to get the applet in fluxbox?
[06:03] <xorox90__> Is there way to auto install package like a jvm or hadoop or something else on multiple server?, I'm tired of making shell script..
[06:03] <dr_willis> only the official ubuntu variants are normally supported here.. but you could use conky or other monitoring type tools in the repos to show battery stats
[06:03] <MK`> Is there a way to clear cached memory in Ubuntu? having some memory management issues
[06:03] <computerex> conky depends on acpi unfortunately
[06:03] <dr_willis> xorox90__:  i recall there being a multi-ssh commands befor that would apply the same command to all servers in a list
[06:03] <BluesKaj> acpi is available in the repos , computerex . make sure your repos are all enabled
[06:04] <xorox90__> dr_willis // thx!
[06:04] <dr_willis> wonders why acpi wouldent be installed by default.. but who can tell with ubuntu variants
[06:07] <nearst> precise is missing gnome-display-properties?
[06:08] <dr_willis> i thought it got renamed  by thge gnome devs..
[06:09] <dr_willis> gnome-control-center has a displays   icon here
[06:09] <nearst> oic. im use resolution-switcher atm
[06:18] <datruth> what can I use to capture my sound cound and stream to shoutcast?
[06:19] <DeliriumTremens> how would one start an application rather than bash when a user ssh's into a box?
[06:20] <DeliriumTremens> so they dont get a shell, they go directly into an application, when it closes the session closes
[06:20] <nearst> any binary should running on a shell
[06:22] <computerex> time_to_empty_avg - is the information provided in seconds?
[06:22] <DeliriumTremens> nearst: i feel a language barrier
[06:23] <dr_willis> id check the ssh docs DeliriumTremens  i think thats doable. but never done it.
[06:23] <DeliriumTremens> hrmm
[06:23] <DeliriumTremens> k
[06:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> question: I enabled a full root login on a virtual machine to learn a bit of stuff; thing is it does not do tab-completion like normal, how do I enable this?
[06:24] <DeliriumTremens> well...it's actually telnet i want to use
[06:24] <stercor> I'm unable to apt-get common packages, synaptic, irssi, git, svn. The message is "E: Unable to locate package ...."
[06:24] <DeliriumTremens> but...yeah
[06:24] <dr_willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  make sure its using bash as the shell not sh
[06:24] <DeliriumTremens> i figured they'd be close to the same
[06:24] <dr_willis> DeliriumTremens:  telnet is radically differnt.
[06:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> ah... good point, no?
[06:24] <dr_willis> you could set the users shell to be some app... but thats most likely not a good way to do it
[06:24] <NathanWW> i installed lubuntu the alt install version on a toughbook laptop, it boots up i see the lubuntu boot splash and then nothing cant ctrl + alt + f1 to get a terminal nothing power off and reboot back up and it does it again. since the installer finished and it rebooted... i think i may have issue with resolution set wrong perhaps, but how can i edit the boot loader so it does not load X so i
[06:24] <NathanWW> can go and check configs ect from terminal?
[06:25] <dr_willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  echo $SHELL and see what the shell you are using is
[06:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> this is determined by a dot file in ~ normally, right/
[06:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> ?
[06:25] <dr_willis> the chsh command changes the users default shell.
[06:25] <dr_willis> its defined as part of their settings in /etc/passwd i belive
[06:26] <nearst> yezza
[06:26] <dr_willis> last field in the users entry in /etc/passwd
[06:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> oh how fascinating~!
[06:31] <stercor> afk
[06:32] <ubuntuw1204> is it advised to upgrade from software manager, or download full iso of 12.10 and then perform upgrade by launching the installer?
[06:32] <dr_willis> either way can work ubuntuw1204
[06:33] <dr_willis> dont forget to make backups first.. just in case
[06:33] <ubuntuw1204> dr_willis: which is better?
[06:33] <dr_willis> i always do clean installs.. i rarely upgrade
[06:34] <nearst> time vs risk
[06:34] <dr_willis> and time vs time. ;)
[06:34] <dr_willis> i find it faster for a clean install then a upgrade
[06:34] <ubuntuw1204> dr_willis: why? and what about the already installed software?
[06:35] <dr_willis> why is evreyone so worried about allready installed stuff...
[06:35] <dr_willis> You reinstall it..
[06:35] <dr_willis> I know what i normally install.. so reinstalling it takes very little time
[06:36] <nearst> same. reinstall and making some partitions layout :D
[06:36] <ubuntuw1204> dr_willis: i keep a separate home directory for all my files can it be afected furing install or upgrade?
[06:36] <DeliriumTremens> dr_willis: i tried to change the users shell to an app and it wouldnt run
[06:36] <DeliriumTremens> said command not found
[06:36] <DeliriumTremens> on the flip side i can run it if i just telnet in
[06:36] <dr_willis> installing or upgradeing shuld not affect your /home/ partition.  just dont accidently format it
[06:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> I never upgrade versions, tried a few times and never ended well.
[06:37] <DeliriumTremens> also i can set it to run in .bashrc
[06:37] <ubuntuw1204> ok
[06:37] <DeliriumTremens> but i want the session to end immediately after the app closes, so they cant access the shell
[06:37] <dr_willis> DeliriumTremens:  theres  system settings on what apps can be used as a system shell
[06:37] <DeliriumTremens> ahh
[06:37] <DeliriumTremens> i'll check it out
[06:37] <dr_willis> check out the restricted bash shell also
[06:38] <DeliriumTremens> well, it will esentially appear to them as if the app is running locally
[06:38] <ubuntuw1204> dr_willis: any way by which i can keep my already installed softwares?
[06:38] <DeliriumTremens> that's how i'd like it to go down
[06:38] <dr_willis> !clone | ubuntuw1204
[06:39] <ubuntuw1204> dr_willis: and whta is the best partitioning scheme
[06:39] <dr_willis> ubuntuw1204:  use the upgrade.. or make a list and clean install. then reinzxtgall them
[06:39] <dr_willis> Partition layouyt depends on your needs
[06:39] <ubuntuw1204> ok
[06:39] <dr_willis> i keep it simple   /  /home and swap
[06:40] <ubuntuw1204> dr_willis: me too, all primary partitions?
[06:40] <dr_willis> dosent matter
[06:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> you can't have more than one primary, can you? I always get primary / and /home and swap in an extended
[06:41] <ubuntuw1204> ntzrmtthihu777: you can have max 4 primary partitions
[06:41] <dr_willis> you can have 4 primaries on a msdos type partion layout
[06:41] <dr_willis> gpt patrtition  gets over theat limit
[06:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> interesting.
[06:41] <KRomeleoN> is libreoffice 4.0 still not available in sw center ??
[06:41] <dr_willis> 4 primary - one can be an extended - and hold logicals. (the old way)
[06:42] <dr_willis> KRomeleoN:  not that ive seen..  if it was you would se eit..
[06:42] <ubuntuw1204> dr_willis: yes, right
[06:42] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/252612/how-do-i-install-libreoffice-4/252613#252613
[06:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: yeah, I got it figured out. root was using bash, but it was not sourcing /etc/bash_completion
[06:43] <aeon-ltd> slightly offtopic; is there such a ppa/repo that's maintained by canonical and contains the latest software, but untested and undocumented?
[06:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> latest what software?
[06:43] <aeon-ltd> of anything
[06:43] <dr_willis> !backuports | aeon-ltd
[06:43] <dr_willis> !backports
[06:44] <dr_willis> not really a 'ppa' :) but a repo
[06:44] <aeon-ltd> thank you
[06:45] <ubuntuw1204> dr_willis: so when u reinstall do you replace the existing / and don;t format the /home and swap?
[06:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> man I can never understand why people, given the option and knowledge, stick with win $
[06:45] <dr_willis> you got it
[06:45] <dr_willis> and you add your users back in the same order
[06:47] <aeon-ltd> ntzrmtthihu777: drivers, compatibility, performance, software choices, and lazy. there's a few
[06:47] <dr_willis> silly amazon prime dont want to work on Ubuntu for me.. hacvent tried it this week.. time to see if its  working now
[06:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> bleh.
[06:49] <dr_willis> still not working. ;(
[06:49] <neirpyc> I'm running 12.04.2 on a Macbook Pro 7,1. Is there a way to swap the way the fn keys work like there is in OSX? I want to be able to hit the fn keys as fn keys and hit fn+key for the brightness, volume, etc.
[06:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: wazzat
[06:50] <dr_willis> aparently theres some flash/drm feature that amazon prime needs.. so it dont work on linux at the moment.
[06:50] <ubuntuw1204> i have ubuntu  1204 installed and its giving a lot of error. eg- some prolem ocuured
[06:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> neirpyc: I had same issue in hp dv5, but it was a bios setting.
[06:51] <neirpyc> ntzrmtthihu777, I don't think MBPs have a BIOS... Hmm.
[06:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> not a clue, lol. I avoid crapple even more than win$
[06:52] <neirpyc> ntzrmtthihu777, Yeah, I would have done the same but it was given to me as a work machine and I was allowed to take it when I went freelance. Trying to make the best of it now. =)
[06:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> neirpyc: I getcha, lol. at least a win$ machine is easy to convert over, crapple has its own issues that make stuff tricky
[06:54] <ubuntuw1204> dr_willis: i have ubuntu  1204.02 installed and its giving a lot of error. eg- some prolem ocuured
[06:54] <ubuntuw1204> dr_willis: is there a way i can keep up with the latest kernel?
[06:55] <iknofailfu> is it a bug or am i doing it wrong? and should i report it and if yes, where? i mean i don't know what's going on http://paste.ubuntu.com/5560820/
[06:55] <neirpyc> ntzrmtthihu777, I hear ya. I got WiFi working with the proprietary drivers just fine but I can't get the video card drivers to work correctly for my life!
[06:56] <nearst> still not work well for graphic
[06:57] <debiantoruser> Greetings!
[06:57] <debiantoruser> bdf28d67621416970299f149ddc8d333  amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13.1-linux-x86.x86_64.run
[06:57] <debiantoruser> ubuntu 12.10
[06:57] <debiantoruser> how to save settings of amdcccle?
[06:57] <debiantoruser> After restart X, everythings go to default....
[06:57] <FloodBot1> debiantoruser: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:58] <theadmin> debiantoruser: You shouldn't use that installer, install the driver from the repos :/
[06:59] <ubuntuw1204> how can i keep up with latest kernel
[06:59] <debiantoruser> Linux bt 3.5.0-25-generic #38-Ubuntu SMP Mon Feb 18 23:27:42 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[06:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: got it, I just had to uncomment a few lines in roots ~/.bashrc
[06:59] <debiantoruser> theadmin, there is no any correct driver in repos
[06:59] <theadmin> debiantoruser: Backtrack is not supported here.
[07:00] <debiantoruser> it's old name, i'm on 12.10
[07:00] <debiantoruser> quantal
[07:00] <theadmin> debiantoruser: Err, never mind, "bt" is the machine name
[07:00] <theadmin> debiantoruser: The propretiary AMD driver is in the repos, it's called "fglrx"
[07:00] <nearst> im downgrade to precise :-/
[07:00] <debiantoruser> theadmin, i'm shure it doesn't work
[07:01] <debiantoruser> Are you use it?
[07:01] <theadmin> debiantoruser: And why is that? It worked for me back when I had an AMD card
[07:01] <debiantoruser> +"with this device ati amd radeon HD6870
[07:02] <theadmin> I'm not sure that's the exact one I had, but yes, it was a Radeon HD 6something
[07:02] <iknofailfu> is it a bug or am i doing it wrong? and should i report it and if yes, where? i mean i don't know what's going on http://paste.ubuntu.com/5560820/
[07:02] <debiantoruser> theadmin, may be it was, in far past
[07:02] <theadmin> debiantoruser: ...That was this year, even.
[07:03] <iknofailfu> please, guys, you are my last chance =)
[07:03] <nearst> amd driver is still broken, unless got support to xorg 1.13 afaik
[07:04] <theadmin> Hm.
[07:04] <nearst> radeon is a little help. :D time for opengl as well
[07:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> iknofailfu: no clue what that paste is supposed to mean, give some background, whatcha doin?
[07:04] <iknofailfu> ntzrmtthihu777, where are uuid's gone?
[07:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> iknofailfu: you need the uuid of a device? is that it?
[07:04] <iknofailfu> why there is not sda# for both listed with parted
[07:04] <debiantoruser> theadmin, ati command migrate to, i don't know where, now 13.1 - is stable proprietary driver, it provide 9.012 build, next step is 13.2 - beta, it provide 12.xxx build
[07:04] <theadmin> Anyway I have a little problem. I have used the "Keyboard" in the unity settings panel to bind Super+R to gnome-terminal (used to that shortcut from windows times :/) but it stops working randomly
[07:04] <iknofailfu> and how can i mount it without those
[07:05] <debiantoruser> repos drivers don't work
[07:05] <theadmin> Doesn't work right now, for example, but it worked like a minute ago
[07:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> hmm
[07:06] <iknofailfu> ntzrmtthihu777, that's bizarre thing, after firmware and bios update for the laptop i ended up with exiting partitions that are no longer identified and listed with anything but `parted` so i can't mount it
[07:06] <iknofailfu> there are 2 luks-partitions and it is clear for parted gui
[07:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> check /etc/fstab, and you can get the uuid from gparted methinks.
[07:06] <debiantoruser> theadmin, where i can get irc-support about amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13.1-linux-x86.x86_64.run?
[07:07] <debiantoruser> which irc channel?
[07:07] <theadmin> debiantoruser: Nowhere, you have to contact AMD about it.
[07:07] <iknofailfu> ntzrmtthihu777, plugging ssd to another boxes with different controllers or over usb shows the same, how am i supposed to look at fstab when i can't mount it?
[07:08] <iknofailfu> how can it appear to be listed on fstab in live cd environment
[07:08] <debiantoruser> theadmin, #ati
[07:08] <debiantoruser> (:
[07:08] <iknofailfu> it is the second week, no help from community at all
[07:08] <theadmin> debiantoruser: Hm, I have doubts that's official. Besides ATI doesn't exist.
[07:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> iknofailfu: do you have a live disk? boot it, and use the file browser to find it.
[07:09] <iknofailfu> ntzrmtthihu777, i'm already in live environment because losing uuid's and sda# idetificators leads to bricked luks / instance
[07:09] <iknofailfu> obviously
[07:09] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: I don't think you understand the problem... iknofailfu, the /dev nodes don't get created, right?
[07:09] <iknofailfu> theadmin, exactly
[07:09] <BobbyShaftoe> Hi, who knows how to find out the best MTU settings for an openvpn client?
[07:09] <BobbyShaftoe> Hi, who knows how to find out the best MTU settings for an openvpn client?
[07:09] <theadmin> iknofailfu: Is there anything in /etc/udev/rules.d/ that looks suspicious?
[07:09] <theadmin> BobbyShaftoe: Leave it empty = it will be automatic.
[07:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> so you can't even see the partitions using nautilus?
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> !vpn | BobbyShaftoe
[07:10] <dr_willis> BobbyShaftoe:  try differnt settings, then run a benchmarks.. i doubt if it matters much
[07:10] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: no /dev node = *nothing* will see the partition
[07:10] <iknofailfu> theadmin, it is live usb of 12.10 i don't think there is something suspicious
[07:10] <BobbyShaftoe> !vpn
[07:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> :/ well that sucks.
[07:10] <theadmin> iknofailfu: Ah, okay, hm...
[07:10] <iknofailfu> theadmin, look at the screenshots, `parted` can see it
[07:10] <theadmin> Yeah I saw that
[07:10] <BobbyShaftoe> I already checked  a lot of google results
[07:10] <iknofailfu> gparted even shows it is luks-encrypted
[07:11] <iknofailfu> so how the hell parted knows
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> is there a package that can notify with sound when receiving hotmail or gmail emails?
[07:11] <iknofailfu> i'm in desperate for real, this is the second week with no hints from community =)
[07:12] <iknofailfu> i need to mount it at least to re-fresh the backup, it is very important to me
[07:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> well you won't hear anything from me, its beyond my current comprehension.
[07:12] <debiantoruser> they are all dead
[07:12] <theadmin> lotuspsychje: There's gnome-gmail-notifier, gmail-notify and checkgmail in the repos.
[07:12] <debiantoruser> theadmin, why there are three flood bod?
[07:12] <iknofailfu> ntzrmtthihu777,  guys, you already tried, this is the second time i got attention with my problems, thank you so much
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> theadmin: tnx mate
[07:12] <theadmin> lotuspsychje: As for hotmail, I'm not sure, but doesn't Thunderbird do notifications?
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> theadmin: i dont want to download email with thunderbird
[07:13] <theadmin> lotuspsychje: Makes sense, well, I find nothing for hotmail though
[07:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> well, I figured my problem out, later guys!
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> theadmin: ok tnx anyway
[07:14] <theadmin> lotuspsychje: You could set up GMail to receive mail from your hotmail account though, I guess :D
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> theadmin: maybe thunderbird can notify without download all emails?
[07:15] <theadmin> lotuspsychje: Nah I don't think it can
[07:16] <neirpyc> Is there a way to see what is happening when I press one of the special function keys like brightness? I would like to set my brightness to a certain value at boot but none of the commands I've found online seem to work.
[07:17] <lotuspsychje> theadmin: ok, another question.. you know any package or method that can trace usb worm activity?
[07:17] <theadmin> lotuspsychje: Uhm, what's a usb worm?
[07:17] <lotuspsychje> theadmin: like an autorun injection on usb
[07:18] <dr_willis> running a windows executable?
[07:18] <theadmin> lotuspsychje: Oh. Well, COMODO provides a Linux version of their antivirus which should be quite capable of finding such infections.
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: yes lets say the usb got a windows autorun injection on it
[07:19] <theadmin> I say though, find /media -name 'autorun.inf' -delete
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> can it be traced from ubuntu?
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> or maybe a tail -f trick to usb or something?
[07:26] <manico> !ciao
[07:26] <manico> !list
[07:30] <iknofailfu> maybe someone could give me a hint where are uuid's and sda#'s ? live environment, 2 luks partitions seen by `parted`(no lvm, no raid) http://paste.ubuntu.com/5560820/
[07:38] <iknofailfu> maybe someone could give me a hint where are uuid's and sda#'s ? live environment, 2 luks partitions seen by `parted`(no lvm, no raid) http://paste.ubuntu.com/5560820/
[07:40] <SwedeMike> iknofailfu: doesn't /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2 ? you use cryptsetup to "open" the luks partitions.
[07:40] <dr_willis> the windows auto run 'injection' is just a  basic autornning an .exe on insertion.. from what i recall. you are making it sound fancier then what it is...
[07:41] <iknofailfu> SwedeMike, look through the paste i provided carefully
[07:41] <dr_willis> use whatever wine tools exist to trace .exe files and run the thing
[07:41] <histo> iknofailfu: lsblk please
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: i just readed some stuff about apparmor blocking autorun
[07:41] <iknofailfu> histo, doesn't show any partitions on sda
[07:42] <SwedeMike> iknofailfu: yes it does.
[07:42] <iknofailfu> SwedeMike, what?
[07:42] <SwedeMike> iknofailfu: you have sda1 and sda2, if you use cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda1 csda1 and input your key, you will then be able to access the crypted device as /dev/mapp/csda1
[07:42] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: just installed rkhunter and scanning system, maybe it pickup from /media too
[07:43] <histo> iknofailfu: sdb1 and 2 are showing. With crypt-luks  Did you use encrption on both drives?
[07:43] <SwedeMike> iknofailfu: /dev/mapper/csda1
[07:43] <iknofailfu> SwedeMike, i don't have sda1 and sda2 that is the reason i came
[07:43] <iknofailfu> http://pastebin.com/6bvYv69z
[07:43] <iknofailfu> this drive is sda
[07:43] <iknofailfu> as mentioned at http://paste.ubuntu.com/5560820/
[07:43] <SwedeMike> iknofailfu: ok, what is it you want to achieve? what is your problem, what is it you want to do?
[07:43] <iknofailfu> however only `parted` can see there are 2 partitions
[07:43] <iknofailfu> i want to mount it
[07:44] <iknofailfu> but i can't point cryptsetup at device that doesn't exist
[07:44] <iknofailfu> but, again, parted can see it
[07:44] <SwedeMike> iknofailfu: ok, I have already provided the solution then. "cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda1 csda1" and then mount /dev/mapper/csda1
[07:44] <iknofailfu> and parted gui is able to recognize it is luks-encrypted
[07:44] <iknofailfu> SwedeMike, there is no sda1
[07:44] <iknofailfu> that is the problem
[07:44] <iknofailfu> so you didn't
[07:45] <iknofailfu> because you didn't read what i say
[07:45] <histo> iknofailfu: Did you use whole disk encryption on sda?
[07:45] <SwedeMike> iknofailfu: run partx
[07:45] <iknofailfu> histo, yes
[07:45] <iknofailfu> histo, bsd table, 2 partitions, no lvm, no raid
[07:45] <histo> iknofailfu: Has this setup ever worked?
[07:46] <iknofailfu> histo, the funny thing - yes
[07:46] <SwedeMike> iknofailfu: did you run "partx" ?
[07:46] <iknofailfu> SwedeMike, i'm not sure how exactly i should run it and what result you expect me to paste
[07:46] <iknofailfu> be more precise please
[07:47] <SwedeMike> iknofailfu: "partx (8)            - telling the kernel about presence and numbering of on-disk partitions."
[07:47] <SwedeMike> iknofailfu: just run it and check if /dev/sda1 shows up.
[07:47] <iknofailfu> SwedeMike, if you just `partx` it throws usage short-help
[07:48] <SwedeMike> iknofailfu: ok, "partx /dev/sda" then I guess.
[07:48] <SwedeMike> or partx -a
[07:48] <iknofailfu> partx: /dev/sda: dos partition table does not contains usable partitions
[07:48] <iknofailfu> it's not dos, because it is bsd
[07:48] <iknofailfu> i'm not sure what to do with it
[07:49] <SwedeMike> iknofailfu: I guess you could use "addpart" and manually tell the kernel about the partition.
[07:49] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5560907/
[07:49] <iknofailfu> partx -a results the same usage output
[07:49] <iknofailfu> SwedeMike, thanks for the hint, let me check it
[07:50] <fr0g-> what is the proper way to uninstall all of unity on 12.10?
[07:50] <iknofailfu> SwedeMike, so it requires first and last sector, right? usage: addpart diskdevice partitionnr start length
[07:51] <iknofailfu> fortunately parted shows it
[07:51] <histo> iknofailfu: did you partition sda with gpt?
[07:51] <iknofailfu> histo, gpt?
[07:52] <iknofailfu> i did it manually from-under alternate cd debian installer
[07:52] <iknofailfu> in expert mode
[07:52] <histo> iknofailfu: as opposed to ms dos partition table a gpt partition table. Although it shouldn't matter.
[07:52] <iknofailfu> i mean i don't remember well what was the tool it uses
[07:52] <histo> iknofailfu: probably not then.
[07:52] <iknofailfu> histo, it has bsd partition table
[07:52] <histo> iknofailfu: Did the disk maybe fail?
[07:53] <fr0g-> Nothing? ;/
[07:53] <histo> iknofailfu: Why does it?
[07:53] <iknofailfu> histo, there is another theory on this behavior, once upon a time i updated bios and firmware for laptop while this ssd replaced the stock drive
[07:53] <stan879nz> hello im after a tut on how to remote desktop to my ubuntu machine from windows that has not been logged i
[07:54] <iknofailfu> histo, i manyally pointed that i want bsd partition table, i got reasons
[07:54] <histo> iknofailfu: do you want to convert it now? from bsd label?
[07:54] <histo> iknofailfu: gdisk will do that.
[07:54] <iknofailfu> histo, can i convert it having luks-encrypted partitions without data loss?
[07:55] <Guest25050> how can i erase LUKS_partition label from desktop, if it already mounted?
[07:55] <fr0g-> what is the proper way to uninstall all of unity on 12.10?
[07:55] <cfhowlett> !nounity|fr0g-,
[07:55] <dr_willis> !purekde
[07:56] <dr_willis> what are you wanting to use instead fr0g- ?
[07:56] <fr0g-> fluxbox
[07:56] <histo> iknofailfu: allegedly you can convert the bsd labesl to gpt without data corruption. I'm not 100% sure though. You said these bsd-label partitions were previously able to be mounte din ubuntu and now they cant?
[07:56] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/6302/how-can-you-remove-unity   fr0g-
[07:57] <dr_willis> fr0g-:  you can just install fluxbox.. and seleect it at the login screeen
[07:57] <histo> iknofailfu: I would image the disk for backup first and then play with it.
[07:57] <fr0g-> I read that and noticed a specific entry for each version of ubuntu  none of wich are 12.10
[07:57] <iknofailfu> histo, i'll give it a try if nothing will help eventually, thank you
[07:57] <iknofailfu> SwedeMike, thank you too
[07:57] <fr0g-> and I know I can install fluxbox and just select at login   but I dont want any unity stuff on my small ssd
[07:59] <fr0g-> Well thanks for the pointers, Ill just go for it and hope for the best. :)
[08:00] <histo> ahh well had a fix for fr0g
[08:00] <iknofailfu> SwedeMike, wow, that unity gui even recognized it is luks partition providing a gui-dialog for decrypt-auth right after i `addpart`ed id following your advice, this is the first serious hope-giving progress step lol, thank you
[08:01] <Guest25050> how can i remove LUKS_partition label from desktop? if it already mounted, but partition label on desktop didn't remove.
[08:01] <iknofailfu> however i ended up with some sorta live gui bug "Adding read ACL for uid 999 to `/media/ubuntu' failed: Operation not supported" while trying to get an access over that gui nautilus(?)
[08:05] <Akita`> is there any french room for ubunutu support ?
[08:05] <cfhowlett> !fr|akita
[08:05] <Akita`> thanks :)
[08:06] <iknofailfu> SwedeMike, i never thought it would be that easy, mounted it successfully and already making the backup, you have no idea, i've spent more than a week to find out that i never used `addpart` thank you so much
[08:07] <helmut_> hi
[08:07] <debiantoruser> amdcccle doesn't save settings, who know why?
[08:07] <vairam> hi
[08:08] <dr_willis> debiantoruser:  if you ran it as root once.. it may have write the users settings to a root owned file in their home directory
[08:08] <debiantoruser> dr_willis, i found /etc/ati/amdpcsdb
[08:08] <Oweoqi> Whoops haha ubuntuthemes.org
[08:08] <SwedeMike> iknofailfu: you're welcome.
[08:08] <dr_willis> debiantoruser:  that wouldent be a user setting file
[08:08] <Oweoqi> seems hacked
[08:09] <histo> yes
[08:09] <debiantoruser> dr_willis, i run it as run
[08:09] <debiantoruser> root
[08:09] <dr_willis> debiantoruser:  each user can have their own seperate settings if they run the file
[08:10] <dr_willis> debiantoruser:  thats about all i know on the ati stuff.. i only got 1 ati system any more
[08:11] <debiantoruser> dr_willis, it store settings in /etc/, but it doesn't read them, when i restart X, settings become default
[08:12] <dr_willis> if the user has settings saved it will override the system settings
[08:12] <dr_willis> for that user
[08:12] <cristian_c> Hi
[08:13] <cristian_c> I can't browse my android device via bluetooth
[08:13] <cristian_c> I've found 'Browse Files on Device'
[08:13] <cristian_c> but I get an error
[08:13] <debiantoruser> dr_willis, anyway, to make changes which me need, required administator access
[08:14] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[08:14] <dr_willis> i find it easier to use the wifi features fo access my android phone cristian_c .. ive not tried bluetooth  with it in ages..
[08:16] <cristian_c> dr_willis, I'm searching a local and simple connection between two bluetooth devices
[08:16] <calwig> hi i just created a USB boot disk for windows, and it was done successfully, however near the end of the unetbootin installation, I read shortly something about the boot sector, then it finished. Im afraid the next boot will fail my current seup
[08:16] <nearst> hotspot would be much good im guess :) with the right tool and right track
[08:16] <dr_willis> cristian_c:  where you at this last week?
[08:17] <calwig> s/seup/setup  so how can one check the boot loader is still going to come up?
[08:17] <calwig> Ub12.04
[08:17] <debiantoruser> dr_willis, got bless you, changes from one user, make settings for each others
[08:17] <cfhowlett> calwig, boot up and run check disk for erros.  then you'll know
[08:17] <cfhowlett> *errors*
[08:17] <dr_willis> debiantoruser: if the user is running the config tool as root.. it would eitehr change the default system file.. or the specific users settings
[08:18] <calwig> cfhowlett, can i check while im on the pc now that grub should come up?
[08:18] <debiantoruser> dr_willis, but i'm run it as user, and changes system, only that way, when i try it with root access, nothing work
[08:18] <cristian_c> dr_willis, I don't understand
[08:18] <calwig> grub customizer is what i use now
[08:18] <cfhowlett> calwig, nope.  boot the usb.  there error checking option is available once booted.
[08:18] <nearst> grub customizer ?
[08:19] <dr_willis> cristian_c:  werent you asking about this last week? I recall someome else asking a similer thing.. you dont get a lot of bluetooth questions in here  that ive seen
[08:19] <calwig> cfhowlett, right, i mean the PCs grub i dont know if it got touched, and I have no other way to boot, its a USB based pc
[08:20] <calwig> so Im here now before that happens, finding a way to reinstall grub now...
[08:20] <calwig> Grub customizer works right?
[08:20] <cfhowlett> calwig, i must have misunderstood.  I thought you said you were making a usb and got some kind of grub messag at the end of creation.   that would refer to the usb NOT to your installed system
[08:21] <calwig> cfhowlett, ah precisely what i thought
[08:21] <cfhowlett> calwig, but you might still want to do the internal error check on booting from that USB.
[08:21] <calwig> before i got to finish reading what it said, unetbootin finished copying files, so redflags went up
[08:22] <calwig> cfhowlett, cool, you kjnow a boot loader that can read the current bootable programs off the pc? Super unetbootin
[08:22] <calwig> or whats it called
[08:23] <cfhowlett> calwig, you're making things way to complicated.  *current bootable programs*?  unetbootin has no such thing that I know of.  It's used to create a bootable media from an ISO...
[08:24] <cristian_c> dr_willis, No, I've asked about suspennsion
[08:24] <cristian_c> *suspension
[08:25] <iKillCypher> guys how do I install sun Java 7
[08:25] <calwig> cfhowlett, ok ill slow down, lets just say the boot sector got changed and i cannot boot now from the PC. So I need a USB boot prog to allow me to see the PCs boot menu that was currently there, to choose which distro to boot from
[08:26] <iKillCypher> Sun JDK 7 on ubuntu
[08:26] <dr_willis> !java
[08:26] <dr_willis> its oracle java :)
[08:26] <cfhowlett> calwig, to fix windows boot, you need the windows disk,  and WHY are we having this question.  unetbootin was making a USB not mucking around with your HDD!
[08:27] <calwig> cfhowlett, correct again yes, just fuzzy about it because of what unetbootin said. anyway. gonna attempt to boot
[08:27] <cfhowlett> calwig, the default bootloader is grub which will display all OS's once installed.
[08:28] <boom0917> why  was libreoffice chosen over open office
[08:28] <dup> LibreOffice is a fork of OpenOffice.org, which was ruled by evil Oracle.
[08:28] <cfhowlett> boom0917, old news.  see open office vs. libre office in the googles
[08:28] <dup> Most of Oracle's devs for OOo quit to make LO, I think.
[08:29] <cfhowlett> dup, don't know about most, but many for certain
[08:29] <boom0917> ty
[08:29] <dr_willis> oracle is good at making people mad. and hurting projects  ;()
[08:29] <Akita`> Okay there's nobody in the french room. I'm gonna try to explain..... I have installed the last ubuntu version 64 bits, but i have a lot of bugs, sometimes my PC doesn't work in graphic mode... theres are a lot of software wich does not work, and my hardware is not totally exploited. I can't find propietary driver for my graphic card (amd radeon hd 6450) and it makes a lot of bug's. It's a miracle that ubuntu work. My quest
[08:29] <Akita`> ion is: do you think i should continue with this version of ubuntu, or i should install the 32 bit version? Is the 64 bit version will be develloped and i will have no bug in the future?  please if you answer back, don't forget i'm french, i am not really good in english so a short answer easy to understant... Thanks :)
[08:30] <calwig> cfhowlett, cool deal, one last question. lets say I have several distros installed on the pc and the grub menu too. An idea is to not have the grub menu appear but instead use a USB boot menu and choose from there. Can be done with grub customizer right?
[08:30] <histo> ait| Akita`
[08:30] <aeon-ltd> Akita`: do you have 4gb of ram or more?
[08:30] <histo> !ati| Akita`
[08:30] <cfhowlett> calwig, yes indeed.
[08:30] <histo> aeon-ltd: That doesn't matter
[08:30] <Akita`> i have 4 Gb ram memory yes
[08:31] <histo> Akita`: You should stay with 64bit there is no reason not to run it.
[08:32] <Akita`> okay thanks ubottu histo  aeon-ltd  :)
[08:32] <calwig> cfhowlett, i suppose there is an option to remove the grub menu from pc
[08:32] <dup> AMD est l'ennemi de vostre liberte.
[08:32] <calwig> cfhowlett, from grub customizer
[08:33] <Akita`> lol dup
[08:34] <dup> Pardon the bad French. :)
[08:34] <Alan502> I have a lot of time and I want to code something
[08:35] <Alan502> What do you guys think of making a plugin for openoffice that
[08:35] <Alan502> makes your text richer, changing the words/adjectives that are repeated and looks for synonyms
[08:35] <aeon-ltd> Alan502: i think it doesn't belong in this channel
[08:35] <DJHenjin_> would someone mind recommending a software package that i can host on my server that will show me real time through a webpage CPU usage, HDD space, RAM usage, network usage ?
[08:36] <aeon-ltd> DJHenjin_: why can't you just use ssh and htop?
[08:36] <histo> Alan502: Why not help an opensource project or do some volunteer work with your time.
[08:36] <DJHenjin_> aeon-ltd: because i need realtime and historical graphs
[08:36] <Guest9749> allo
[08:36] <sbarcteam> hi. I want to upgrade maverick machine to precise.
[08:36] <Alan502> histo: where?
[08:36] <sbarcteam> what intermediate steps do I have to take for this ?
[08:37] <histo> dr_willis: What is the replacement for webmin now?
[08:37] <auronandace> sbarcteam: a fresh install is best
[08:37] <sbarcteam> auronandace: not possible.
[08:37] <auronandace> sbarcteam: why?
[08:37] <histo> Alan502: there are tons of places to volunteer. Your local community....
[08:37] <histo> !eol | sbarcteam
[08:38] <auronandace> zentyal | histo
[08:38] <packetfrog> Hello ubuntuland
[08:38] <auronandace> !zentyal | histo
[08:39] <iknofailfu> DJHenjin_, a friend of mine uses "munin"
[08:39] <histo> !zentyal | DJHenjin_
[08:39] <DJHenjin_> iknofailfu: what a coincidence, looking at munin right now
[08:39] <iknofailfu> DJHenjin_, http://munin.gw01.ru/
[08:39] <iknofailfu> here is how it looks
[08:40] <DJHenjin_> iknofailfu: link doesnt work for me
[08:41] <iknofailfu> it should
[08:41] <DJHenjin_> there we go
[08:42] <DJHenjin_> histo: will it work on 12.04
[08:42] <tripelb> Hi. I need help. the MOST SIMPLE help is: What is the terminal command that shows me what is connected to the ethernet port?  I have a netgear wifi extender and I am trying to see if it is communicating with my phone-sourced wifi hotspot.
[08:42] <tripelb> lsusb lspci lshw are known to me. oh maybe lshw will work. I will try it.
[08:42] <tripelb> lshw
[08:42] <histo> DJHenjin_: Apparently as others have suggested.
[08:43] <dup> ifconfig?
[08:43] <iKillCypher> guys I cant gt sun JDK 7 on my Ubuntu
[08:43] <DJHenjin_> i am going to look around more, thanks for the suggestions guys
[08:43] <histo> tripelb: like whether a cable is plugged in or not? I'm confused
[08:44] <histo> tripelb: ifconfig  ???
[08:44] <iknofailfu> i guess he means something similar to airodump-ng
[08:44] <nearst> back
[08:45] <iknofailfu> taking in view the fact he mentioned wifi and stuff
[08:45] <Gwiggy> hello everyone o.o
[08:45] <nearst> hi Gwiggy
[08:46] <Gwiggy> i was wondering if someone might be able to help me with a question?
[08:46] <histo> !ask | Gwiggy
[08:46] <tripelb> Help, I dont know what I am seeing. - am I loking for eth0 ??
[08:47] <dup> Presumably.
[08:47] <iknofailfu> tripelb, so you want to see if your phone associated with some kind of wireless network router (over wi-fi obviously), right?
[08:48] <Gwiggy> i have a dual boot machine i run both windows vista and ubuntu 12.04 on it, i have been attempting to run startup repair on my windows partition because i continue to get the unmountable boot volume error and i know how to repair that, i have restarted the computer several times attempting to bring up the option to start up repair to no avail, i am just wondering how i could go about fixing this problem o.o
[08:48] <histo> tripelb: What are you trying to do. Your question made no sense can you rephrase it.
[08:49] <histo> Gwiggy: boot to windows and hit F8 to get the windows boot menu. This is really a windows question not ubuntu.
[08:49] <tripelb> histo no comand iconfig. I have vanilla 12.04 and it has no internet connection. (I am on a nexus 7 with a phone hotspot internet source.) I have a netgear wifi extender and it is plugged in (AC) and has an ethernet cable to the computer. It may need to have a router but  I am "trying" to see if it works to send signal.
[08:49] <tripelb> ikonia: see above to histo.
[08:50] <Gwiggy> i have done that many times, it doesnt work at all histo, thats why im wondering if its ubuntu causing me all the fuss
[08:50] <iknofailfu> tripelb, got it
[08:50] <histo> Gwiggy: What doesn't work?
[08:50] <iknofailfu> however still trying to figure out what does it mean exactly
[08:50] <nearst> !phone
[08:50] <Gwiggy> pressing f8 for it, it still does not give me the option like it used to before i installed ubuntu
[08:50] <histo> tripelb: The command I told you was ifconfig not iconfig there is also iwconfig.
[08:50] <histo> tripelb: what type of hardware is ubuntu installed onto?
[08:51] <tripelb> I have no home wifi. Only using android phone as source. to nexus 7, and I hope (to netgear wifi extender, ethernet cable, 12.04 dell)
[08:51] <tripelb> histo bkn ^^^^
[08:51] <histo> Gwiggy: IDK ask in #windows there is a away you can tell windows to boot to that menu. I just don't remember how.
[08:51] <tripelb> iknofailfu:  ^^^
[08:52] <histo> tripelb: see if you are getting an ip on eth0 with ifconfig
[08:52] <tripelb> I am lost about the word "associated" cause I have no technical definition in my head for it.
[08:52] <Gwiggy> i will, im a certified windows computer tech, i just dont understand the new interface ive got when i boot my computer after installing ubuntu
[08:52] <sbarcteam> auronandace: I am used to apt-get dist-upgrade working. you're saying ubuntu is a different kind of cat to skin ?
[08:53] <histo> tripelb: So it's Android phone > Nexus 7 (for some jacked reasson) > netgear wifi extender? > ethernet cable > Dell machine running ubuntu????? Is this your setup?
[08:53] <cfhowlett> histo, ... sounds legit.
[08:53] <histo> lol
[08:54] <histo> Why do people insist on creating their own problems/nightmares
[08:55] <cfhowlett> histo, human nature.  what boggles is they come here expecting (1) instant (2) answers to their (3) specific issue.
[08:55] <tripelb> hissto iknofailfu I did  a grep and got the word oth0 but I need to see the lines around it. .. as in a file listing with a highlight. {freustration: i know so much and get tripped up by basics.)
[08:56] <boom0917> What is the Most common Photo sharing website used to  show others screenshots
[08:57] <aeon-ltd> boom0917: why does that matter?
[08:57] <cfhowlett> !paste|boom0917,
[08:57] <Gwiggy> oh i do apologize i forgot to thank you histo for your help
[08:57] <halfie> does 12.10 works OK on Intel 9xx integrated video cards with regards to video playback?
[08:58] <histo> tripelb: configure your connection through network manager
[08:58] <histo> Gwiggy: np
[08:58] <histo> halfie: works here
[08:59] <xubuser> how can i make a custom ubuntu-live-cd with my packages and presettings?
[08:59] <iknofailfu> i don't know what so say or think
[08:59] <SonOfGod> !radeon
[08:59] <halfie> histo: cool, thanks. Intalling linux on my sister's laptop. Can't messe it up ;)
[09:00] <iknofailfu> halfie, installing linux for sister's laptop with no-messing option will lead you to suffers
[09:00] <SonOfGod> !radeon hd 4570
[09:00] <SonOfGod> :|
[09:01] <halfie> how to I figure out if hardware acceleration is being used? glxinfo?
[09:02] <histo> halfie: glxinfo | grep render
[09:02] <histo> halfie: or run the unity test application it's in /usr/nux... something or other
[09:02] <cfhowlett> !remastersys|xubuser,
[09:03] <histo> !ati > SonOfGod
[09:03] <halfie> histo: thanks :) hardware is being used
[09:03] <histo> halfie: Intel cards have worked rather well for several years now.
[09:04] <Gwiggy> histo: think i should just reformat my vista partition? lol
[09:04] <_genuser_> hello folks, what's the jdk package on ubuntu?
[09:04]  * cfhowlett ... vista?  *shudders*
[09:05] <histo> Gwiggy: Why do you even have vista installed?
[09:05] <cfhowlett> !jdk
[09:05] <histo> !search jdk
[09:05] <histo> !find jdk | _genuser_
[09:05] <rainy> :c, why aint IRCnect working ?
[09:05] <xubuser> you all fcking blind freaks, goodbye
[09:06] <dup> wat
[09:06] <Gwiggy> histo: i hate windows 7 runs laggy on a 1.6 GHz hard drive with only 2.5 GB of RAM installed, and im a gamer, sad to say not many games run well on linux
[09:06] <_genuser_> thx guys.
[09:06] <histo> xubuser: we answered your question but whatever
[09:06] <rainy> I just cant connect to IRCnet :3
[09:06] <aeon-ltd> Gwiggy: yes my hard drive runs at 1.6ghz too :)
[09:06] <histo> !remaster > xubuser
[09:06] <histo> rainy: what does that have to do with ubuntu?
[09:07] <_genuser_> thx guys. good nite.
[09:07] <rainy> well, i installed ubuntu yesterday and i can join ircnet on windows, but not in ubuntu :p
[09:08] <xubuser> Big thx. I apologize for the sharp words
[09:08] <iknofailfu> linus banned ircnet over kernel
[09:08] <cfhowlett> rainy, so then it's an ircnet issue ... not an ubuntu issue.  Chatzilla is the default irc client in ubutnu  and iknofailfu
[09:09] <iknofailfu> rainy, you could also try xchat as a client
[09:10] <rainy> mkay, thanks i'll try some other clients now :)
[09:10] <SilentCHILD> is there an ubuntu channel.dedicated to ubuntu phone?
[09:10] <SonOfGod> thanks histo
[09:10] <SonOfGod> i been there but no much luck :(
[09:10] <SonOfGod> and i still have the same problem
[09:10] <SonOfGod> :(
[09:10] <FloodBot1> SonOfGod: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:10] <iknofailfu> the only two orthodox ones are irssi and xchat -.-
[09:10] <cfhowlett> !phone|SilentCHILD,
[09:10] <histo> !volunteer | xubuser
[09:11] <histo> !volunteers | xubuser
[09:12] <histo> cfhowlett: isn't xchat the default client?
[09:12] <cfhowlett> histo, indeed.  fingers engaged before brain caught up.
[09:13] <rainy> i dont have xchat installed atleast
[09:13] <iknofailfu> it's not
[09:13] <histo> !info xchat
[09:13] <cfhowlett> rainy, easy enough to add xchat but it SHOULD be present ...
[09:13] <histo> hrm..
[09:14] <histo> guess not it's optional
[09:14] <madpup> Hi all again, can you install Bumblebee without using the closed-source nvidia driver?
[09:14] <k1l> madpup: no
[09:15] <iknofailfu> madpup, the whole point of bumblebee is to provide optimus support which is propietary, so it is relatively logical to have nvidia driver as well
[09:16] <dup> If you want, you can "apt-get download <package>" and modify the control file, but I don't see why you would.
[09:17] <iknofailfu> dup, so you can get bumblebee to work with nouveau this way, right?
[09:17] <iknofailfu> i mean it is possible
[09:18] <dup> I don't know anything about Bumblebee or nvidia drivers, just Debian packaging. :b
[09:18] <dup> If you want to toy with it, open up the .deb as an archive, and modify the dependencies in the DEBIAN/control file.
[09:19] <iknofailfu> got it
[09:22] <Larrxi> I need reverse tethering to my android. I have successfully connected my laptop to the phone's hotspot. Is it possible to share the laptops internet through it?
[09:22] <dr_willis> !ics
[09:23] <dr_willis> I recall not all android phones support ad-hoc networking. at least my old one dident..
[09:28] <baumy> on ubuntu server 12.10 i have 3 screens, 2 hooked up to an nvidia gtx 500 card and 1 to intel integrated graphics. i have nvidia drivers installed, didnt explicitly install intel drivers (read that theyre included in the kernel?). when i boot, initial login prompt is displayed on the integrated graphics screen, when i startx only the two nvidia screens are used. how do i get all 3 used?
[09:29] <dup> I have one computer on my wireless network connected to the internet, and another which is being blocked at the modem. Can I access the internet from my blocked PC through my allowed PC?
[09:30] <halfie> I hav BCM4312 wireless which won't work. no "wlan0" device appears. Any tips to fix this problem?
[09:30] <packetfrog> everyone sudo apt-get install apt-fast   AMAZING
[09:30] <dr_willis> you may need a 2nd wireless card on the pc to make it into a gateway dup - then it should be doable.. not sure if you have just 1 wifi card
[09:31] <dup> I can't do it through secure shell or something?
[09:31]  * aarfer high fives dr_willis cause he helped me earlier and he is a smart man.
[09:31] <dr_willis> the one pc still has to  be networked to both  of the ptehr pcs so i dont see how 'ssh' is going to apply.
[09:32] <dr_willis> pc1 => pc2 => router
[09:32] <aarfer> dr_willis,  i would like to learn scripting. so i can make lil programs to do lil things... i am guessing py is the one to learn? what do you think?
[09:32] <hilarie> Hello, looking for a bit of commandline fu :( I want to move *.mp4 up one directory, is this possible without an absolute directory?
[09:32] <dup> Yeah, like that. pc1 --ssh--> pc2 --nm--> router
[09:32] <dr_willis> aarfer:  python is worth learning.. it can do amazeing things
[09:32] <dup> hilarie: "mv *.mp4 ../"
[09:32] <dr_willis> dup:  pc1 and 2 still need to be networked.. so are they networked now?
[09:32] <hilarie> dup thank you
[09:33] <dup> dr_willis: They are both connected to the router, and can speak to each other, but one cannot see the internet.
[09:33] <hori> If I run off a live cd or flash drive, and look at files on a hard drive, will any of the cache data save to that hard drive?
[09:33] <dr_willis> dup:  sounds like you need to configure your router better then. the 2 pcs can ping and access each other?
[09:33] <hori> I want to examine a hard drive without writing anything to it
[09:34] <dup> Yes. It's not my router.
[09:34] <dr_willis> dup:  yes hey CAN ping each other? or Can they Not ?
[09:34] <aarfer> dr_willis,  keep in mind i would be a total beginner to scripting / coding.... would py be tough to start with?
[09:35] <dr_willis> the router is just blocking the internet access of pc2? but it works on the local lan normally?
[09:35] <dr_willis> aarfer:  python is suitable for beginners
[09:35] <dr_willis> and python will take a long time to outgrow. ;)
[09:35] <dup> dr_willis: They can ping each other. The router is blocking internet access of one PC, but LAN works.
[09:36] <dup> dr_willis: Or the modem is. I'm not sure.
[09:36] <dr_willis> dup:  then you could use a ssh tunnle. or proxy on the pc.
[09:37] <aarfer> thanks dr_willis i shall learn. and when i am smart, i will blame you!
[09:37] <dup> dr_willis: How do I set up a proxy like that?
[09:37] <dr_willis> aarfer:  i  dont know much python ;) i do rexx/perl/
[09:37] <dr_willis> dup:  should be tons of guides on networking  and running your own proxy. squid is one such proxy
[09:38] <dup> dr_willis: Alright, I'll look into it. Thanks for the advice.
[09:38] <aarfer> i just mean, i'll blame you for getting me started... hah.
[09:39] <negizmo> Hello all.  For security reasons, I've gone ahead and compiled openssl and openssh from source (their latest versions, 1.0.1e and 6.1p1 respectively).  Everything seems fine except python.  It was throwing 'no version information available' errors.  I applied the version-patch for openssl and recompiled it.  Afterwards, those errors disappeared but a new error occurs any time OpenSSL use is attempted: relocation error: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libssl.so.1.0.0
[09:39] <negizmo> : symbol CRYPTO_memcmp, version OPENSSL_1.0.0 not defined in file libcrypto.so.1.0.0 with link time reference
[09:39] <negizmo> Anyone have any ideas, other than that I shouldn't have compiled openssl from source? :S
[09:39] <negizmo> I can go back to the repo version of openssl, I'd just prefer not to.
[09:39] <ggergely> hi!
[09:40] <ggergely> how can i use somthing like the gnome 2 desktop on ubuntu (12.04)?
[09:40] <dr_willis> theres gnome2 fallback look alike modes.
[09:40] <ggergely> i havent used linux fr years, several things changed, and i need to get started again quick
[09:40] <dr_willis> !fallback
[09:40] <dr_willis> !nounity
[09:41] <dr_willis> ggergely:  or check into Lubuntu - if you need a lightweight old skool type desktop
[09:41] <ggergely> can i use the standard repos with that?
[09:41] <ggergely> i'm totally new to ubuntu, i used fedora and rhel before
[09:41] <dr_willis> the repos are not dependent on the desktop
[09:41] <dup> ggergely: Yes. gnome-panel and gnome-shell are in the standard repos.
[09:42] <dr_willis> you can run gnome apps on lubuntu, or kde apps or wahetever..
[09:42] <ggergely> but i need mono and monodevelop, and they do not support it as well as ubuntu (according to my findings onthe net)
[09:42] <dr_willis> unity uses gnome-shell so yes..
[09:42] <dr_willis> I dont mess with mono - so no idea on mono
[09:42] <ggergely> i mean: all packages for ubuntu are useble on lubuntu as well?
[09:42] <dup> ggergely: Yes.
[09:42] <dr_willis> all the ubuntu variants use the same repos
[09:42] <dup> ggergely: They use the exact same repos.
[09:42] <dr_willis> the repos are not dependent on the desktop
[09:42] <ggergely> monodevelop has official packages for suse debian ubuntu and windows
[09:42] <dup> Just different defaults / installed packages.
[09:43] <ggergely> i'm developing .net, but have to try some things with mono and linux
[09:43] <ggergely> ah thanks for the info i'll try lubuntu then
[09:44] <dup> dr_willis: I'm sorry, should I be installing squid on the disconnected pc, the connected pc, or both?
[09:45] <dr_willis> squid is a proxy.. so it has to run on the  pc with access..  the clients connect to the proxy server
[09:45] <histo> ggergely: yes lubuntu is a derivative that uses LXDE as the desktop environment and changes some default packages. But it's still running a linux kernel configured the "ubuntu way" with the same package manager etc...
[09:47] <b2w> i am using linux ubuntu i want to develop a program that converts tex to speech
[09:47] <dr_willis> text to speach? thats Festival
[09:47] <dr_willis> !info festival
[09:47] <b2w> i am using linux ubuntu i want to develop a program that converts text  to speech in c or c++
[09:47] <heidelfuchs> or espeak
[09:47] <fulcan> dahdi-linux is crapping out when trying to install asterisk or update system http://pastie.org/6323925
[09:48] <heidelfuchs> if you like to have it sound like an 80s sci-fi
[09:48] <dr_willis> fulcan:  whats dahdi-linux?
[09:49] <fulcan> dr_willis asterisk
[09:49] <dup> !yad
[09:49] <b2w> please give me a c++ code to convert text to speech
[09:50] <heidelfuchs> lol
[09:51] <Guest23710> @b2c: take a look at espeak.
[09:51] <dup> !espeak
[09:51] <darkmutt> !espeak
[09:51] <b2w> how to include espeak in my c++ program
[09:51] <darkmutt> hwo can i lock something to unity launcher cause simply locking it when it's running does not work
[09:51] <darkmutt> !unity
[09:52] <dr_willis> darkmutt:  what dosent work with it?
[09:52] <darkmutt> sublime text 2 and google app engine launcher
[09:52] <darkmutt> they appear as locked but dissappear as soon as i close them
[09:52] <dr_willis> were you asking about this last week?
[09:53] <dr_willis> id say post a question on askubuntu.com - because there seems to be others with a similer issue if not. ;)
[09:53] <darkmutt> don't think so to be honest
[09:53] <dr_willis> i dont use either one.. so no idea what would be differnt about them
[09:53] <heidelfuchs> b2w:  srsly?
[09:53] <dr_willis> the answer we gave last week was to make a .desktop launcher file for each app.
[09:53] <b2w> heidelfuchs:yes
[09:53] <dr_willis> they might have a answer/guide for it allready on askubuntu.com
[09:54] <heidelfuchs> b2w: grab the source and include it or check whether theresa lib youcan ue
[09:54] <heidelfuchs> use
[09:55] <b2w> heidelfuchs:want a code that decodes qrcode...
[09:58] <heidelfuchs> ah
[09:58] <heidelfuchs> but why do you need text2speach for that o_O
[09:58] <b2w> any one please give me a program that decodes a qrcode
[09:58] <heidelfuchs> to  have it read for you?
[09:58] <heidelfuchs> i am honestly lost ^^
[09:58] <dr_willis> apt-cache search qrcode  perhaps for starters
[09:59] <negizmo> sorry to repeat myself.  if i get no response this time as well i'll assume no one here atm is really sure, so i'll either come back at a busier time or i'll post on the forum
[09:59] <negizmo> Hello all.  For security reasons, I've gone ahead and compiled openssl and openssh from source (their latest versions, 1.0.1e and 6.1p1 respectively).  Everything seems fine except python.  It was throwing 'no version information available' errors.  I applied the version-patch for openssl and recompiled it.  Afterwards, those errors disappeared but a new error occurs any time OpenSSL use is attempted: relocation error: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libssl.so.1.0.0
[09:59] <negizmo> : symbol CRYPTO_memcmp, version OPENSSL_1.0.0 not defined in file libcrypto.so.1.0.0 with link time reference
[09:59] <negizmo> Anyone have any ideas, other than that I shouldn't have compiled openssl from source? :S
[09:59] <packetfrog> I am alive and have no clue  sorry
[10:00]  * dr_willis has no clue.. but is barely alive
[10:00] <fulcan> negizmo make uninstall and use apt-get
[10:00] <heidelfuchs> negizmo: maybe the symlinks still use the build in pakage
[10:00] <dr_willis> I really dont see how its going to be more secure to have to manage all future security updates yourself.
[10:00] <heidelfuchs> fulcan: why would he do that if he wanted the compiiled version
[10:00] <heidelfuchs> maybe uninstall everything or regenerate the symlinks
[10:01] <negizmo> well everything from the prior version was removed before compiling from source
[10:01] <negizmo> any .so's, symlinks etc
[10:01] <dr_willis> how i read it.. it seems the crypto_memcmp thing needs a specific option compiled into libcrypto
[10:01] <fulcan> heidelfuchs because compiling from source and outside of your package management update chain is foolish.
[10:01] <negizmo> well actually
[10:01] <negizmo> memcmp is apparently a new function in the latest version of openssl
[10:02] <negizmo> what's sort of foolish, to me, is that it hasn't been updated in the repos yet.
[10:02] <negizmo> there's a fairly decent vulnerability in past versions that could lead to plaintext recovery of data
[10:02] <heidelfuchs> fulcan:  it is not foolish if you need a specific new feature/bug fixed and cannot wait for it to be released in the repo
[10:02] <negizmo> to some it may not be a big deal
[10:02] <negizmo> to me, it is
[10:02] <negizmo> different people, different ways of thinking i suppose.
[10:02] <dr_willis> you could build a proper .deb or look for ppas i guess.. but i never do any of that stuff. ;)
[10:03] <fulcan> negizmo does that leak exist in the repository version?
[10:03] <negizmo> the fix for the specific vulnerability im talking about
[10:03] <dr_willis> a lot of the times security patches get backported into the older versions in the repos.
[10:03] <negizmo> is in 1.0.1d.  the latest version is e
[10:03] <Espen_> Hey! I need some advice, i found a sound bug in Ubuntu 12.10. I believe its a software bug. Where do i report it?
[10:03] <dr_willis> ive seen that in other apps in the past.
[10:03] <negizmo> i understand that as well dr_willis, but im not sure if thats the case here
[10:04] <dr_willis> !but | Espen_
[10:04] <negizmo> or if i'm willing to take a chance on that
[10:04] <dr_willis> !bug | Espen_
[10:04] <dr_willis> Espen_:  search for others reporting the same bug first. ;)
[10:06] <fulcan> asterisk/dahdi-linux is crapping out when trying to install asterisk or update system http://pastie.org/6323925
[10:07] <bekks> fulcan: So you arent using Ubuntu, but Dadhi Linux?
[10:07] <fulcan> bekks installing asterisk gives me that error.
[10:07] <dr_willis> i asked what dadhi linux was earlier.. never got an answer.. never heard of it - if its some ubuntu spinoff..
[10:07] <fulcan> dr_willis I said asterisk
[10:07] <dr_willis> only specific ubuntu  variants are offficially supported here...
[10:08] <histo> !derivatives | fulcan
[10:08] <MonkeyDust> dadhi is some VOIP thingy, is what i read here
[10:08] <dr_willis> dont care  what you are doing with it...   if its not an official variant.. dosent matter
[10:08] <fulcan> dadhi is asterisk
[10:08] <dr_willis> !find dadhi
[10:08] <darkmutt> thanks guys i managed to lock st2 ill manage to lock google app engine too :)
[10:09] <MonkeyDust> !find asterisk
[10:09] <dr_willis> !info dahdi-linux
[10:09] <dr_willis> what a odd name
[10:09] <fulcan> dr_willis it's apt-get crashing on and asterisk mod called dadhi which is a standard dependancy
[10:09] <histo> fulcan: it's in universe
[10:10] <histo> fulcan: the module is failing to build as your paste suggests
[10:11] <fulcan> histo no clue what it would be hinting at
[10:11] <fulcan> Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.2.6 (x86_64)  ??
[10:12] <histo> fulcan: The universe component is a snapshot of the free, open-source, and Linux world. It houses almost every piece of open-source software, all built from a range of public sources. Canonical does not provide a guarantee of regular security updates for software in the universe component, but will provide these where they are made available by the community. Users should understand the risk inherent in using
[10:12] <histo> these packages. Popular or well supported pieces of software will move from universe into main if they are backed by maintainers willing to meet the standards set by the Ubuntu team.
[10:12] <histo> fulcan: you can try filing a bug or contacting the package maintainer.
[10:12] <MonkeyDust> fulcan  here too, error during dahdi install, consider reporting a !bug
[10:13] <Espen_> dr_wilis i haven't found a similar bug yet, and its a bug in pulseaudio i believe. is it okay to post it on launchpad then?
[10:13] <MonkeyDust> fulcan  here too, error during dahdi install, consider reporting a !bug
[10:13] <fulcan> I could care less about dadhi. if I could force ^dadhi it would be prefered....
[10:14] <Espen_> dr_willis *
[10:14] <v3vsa> Does 12.04.2 LTS have spyware? Or is it only in the 12.10 release?
[10:14] <fulcan> I just need basic asterisk
[10:14] <bekks> v3vsa: Neither 12.04 nor 12.10 contains spyware.
[10:15] <v3vsa> I mean the amazon shopping lens thing.
[10:15] <calwig> how is java jdk installed on 12.04?
[10:15] <calwig> apt-get install does not find it
[10:15] <bekks> v3vsa: You can uninstall it.
[10:15] <bekks> !java | calwig
[10:15] <histo> v3vsa: you can remove the shopping lense
[10:16] <v3vsa> But is it in 12.04.2 LTS?
[10:16] <calwig> bekks, thx
[10:16] <histo> v3vsa: no in 12.10
[10:16] <CRay01> hello! please, i need your help with this question
[10:16] <CRay01> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12527149&posted=1#post12527149
[10:16] <v3vsa> Cool, thank you!
[10:17] <nearst> back
[10:17] <histo> v3vsa: you could sudo apt-get remove unity-shopping-lense if you no longer want it.
[10:17] <histo> in 12.10
[10:18] <Poindexter_> Can anyone in a brief statement describe how secure the apt-get repository is?
[10:18] <v3vsa> Thanks.
[10:18] <nearst> secure?
[10:19] <Poindexter_> What entity oversees the apt-get repository and how can one put their trust in it the same as as apt-get update?
[10:19] <aarfer> Poindexter_,  if you can not trust it, then you can not trust anything in linux.
[10:20] <CRay01> i have been using ubuntu for the last 5 years! and through out all those five years i failed to get any help from any forum, blog or any Ubuntu related IRC.
[10:20] <nearst> if u believe that package. take risk to have em
[10:20] <histo> !volunteers | CRay01
[10:20] <Poindexter_> My personal experience with Linux is that for the most part, the Linux "Community" has been very trustworthy and very noble.
[10:20] <aarfer> Poindexter_,  CRay01  will give you 4.6 dollars if you die tomorrow because the repo killled your system.
[10:21] <packetfrog> aarfer Please do not talk like that in here.
[10:21] <histo> !universe | Poindexter_
[10:22] <archstanton78> Anyone based in China here?
[10:22] <packetfrog> There are at times  dunno if any are active right now
[10:23] <histo> CRay01: You what appears like one of those switching video systems. Where it changes from the intel to the nvidia adapter.
[10:23] <packetfrog> Optimus
[10:24] <histo> yes
[10:24] <histo> optimus that's the name for it
[10:24] <packetfrog> get bumblebee
[10:24] <CRay01> i see what you mean... what should i do in your opinion?
[10:24] <histo> !optimus
[10:25] <packetfrog> sudo apt-get bumblebee
[10:25] <packetfrog> then read the tutorials
[10:25] <nearst> !cn | archstanton78
[10:25] <archstanton78> thanks
[10:25] <Poindexter_> Has anyone tried UbuntuStudio with VBOX? It is slow.
[10:25] <CRay01> packetfrog: alright! Thanks ... i will give it a shot
[10:26] <histo> Poindexter_: do you have guest additions installed?
[10:26] <packetfrog> CRay01 You need to read up on bumblebee  make sure you understand how to use it  incase u need to play a game or something with your nice graphics card
[10:26] <Espen_> I have a problem with the "Sound" interface on Ubuntu 12.10, it resets everytime i switch Output on the SAME soundcard (happens on both integrated sound, and discrete soundcard). Ubuntu recommends me to use ubuntu-bug -s sound, to report the problem. But im not able to go in details what the problem is, atm the bug report only states "problems with volume sliders". What is the best way to report this?
[10:27] <darkmutt> how do i make sure that my unity sidebar is using the newest .desktop files? cause i managed to lock sublime text 2 but when i try to lock googleappenginelauncher it doesn't work
[10:30] <dr_willis> darkmutt:  how many .desktop files did you mke for sublime and where did you put them?
[10:30] <darkmutt> one in usr/share/applications
[10:31] <darkmutt> but i managed to make one working for google app launcher just now :D
[10:31] <darkmutt> though thanks for trying to help
[10:31] <packetfrog> apt-fast should be standard
[10:31] <packetfrog> amazing
[10:31] <dr_willis> You might want to post a bug/comment on the sublime site.. asking them to make a proper .desktop file
[10:32] <darkmutt> nah it's good :) its working fine now
[10:32] <linxon634> ...
[10:32] <dr_willis> you are like the 2-3rd person in here complaining about it..  thats a comercial product isent it?
[10:33] <darkmutt> yes and no at the same time
[10:33] <Poindexter_> Greets to DrWillis. Nice to see you again.
[10:33] <darkmutt> they ask you to buy it every now and then but they let you continue using it even if you don't
[10:33] <nearst> mac-fan?
[10:33] <dr_willis> last i read.. the latest release dident work that way.. but i couldent see the need for yet another text editor. so i just skimmed the artical
[10:34] <darkmutt> im pretty sure that's how the latest one works cause that's what i got from their site
[10:34] <darkmutt> unless sublimetext.com is a site made by a thirdparty
[10:34] <nearst> geany is far good than sublime
[10:35] <dr_willis> no idea. i will stick to whats in the repos...
[10:36] <Poindexter_> What's wrong with vi or vim editor?  hehe  :)
[10:36] <packetfrog> gedit and nano for me
[10:36] <dr_willis> geany or vim about all i need
[10:36] <nearst> remember emacs, richard stallman
[10:36] <dr_willis> fte is an interesting editor also
[10:37] <wootis_lap> Hello got a question, my Network folder seems to disapear now and then. sometimes its there when i go to file manager and sometimes i need to reebot to get file manager to display the network folder . weird imo.
[10:38] <Poindexter_> Wootis it might just be the screen saver. Hit enter before rebooting. No need to reboot every time.
[10:40] <nearst> wootis_lap, u try to look using terminal?
[10:40] <wootis_lap> no i havent im kinda new to using terminal so im not quite familiar with the terminal.
[10:41] <eric_hungern> hello guys. how can i remove a package with its all depencies and config files. i know apt-get --purge remove but how does this mechanism work. if a nother packages needs this depency will this depency be removed or stay?
[10:41] <kubanc>  i get this in the virtualBox ubuntu server: the disk drive for /de/mapper/ubuntuserver-swap_1 is not ready yet or not present
[10:42] <nearst> eric_hungern, ive face those sometime.the only way i do is release upgrade
[10:42] <eric_hungern> ??
[10:44] <eric_hungern> nearst, i mean i have a X package and this package has  a depency Y . another package B for example needs Y depency also. if i remove the X package with its all deoencies and config files will Y package stay(bec package B needs it)or be removed???
[10:44] <Ben64> purge doesn't remove dependencies
[10:44] <eric_hungern> this is my problem
[10:44] <nearst> eric_hungern, maybe purge and do reinstall
[10:44] <eric_hungern> so purge only removed config files in ~ directory.
[10:44] <eric_hungern> whaty about autoremove?
[10:45] <dr_willis> apt-get system does NOT touch files in the users homes
[10:45] <dr_willis> ~ = your home
[10:45] <Ben64> eric_hungern: check the man page for apt-get
[10:45] <nearst> try look at /var/log/apt/term.log what package cause those problem
[10:45] <eric_hungern> ben64 i did but it is not clearly explained
[10:45] <Ben64> yes it is
[10:45] <eric_hungern> or i didnot understand
[10:46] <Ben64> "autoremove is used to remove packages that were automatically installed to satisfy dependencies for other packages and are now no longer needed."
[10:46] <kubanc> Helllow! How can i solve this problem? the disk drive for /de/mapper/ is not ready yet or not present
[10:47] <eric_hungern> so Ben64 . my last question. my X packages needs Y depency so does my B packages. if i remove X package Y depency will stay bec B needs it. if i remove B also i will no longer need Y right??
[10:47] <eric_hungern> so that i can do autoremove to remove Y depency
[10:47] <Ben64> thats right
[10:48] <eric_hungern> and dr_willis said purge does not touch user directories how will i delete my config files in ~ . manually?
[10:48] <Eagleman> I am getting the following error when starting virt-manager:  Error starting Virtual Machine Manager: No D-BUS daemon running  Any idea how to fix this?
[10:49] <nearst> sudo dpkg-reconfigure virt-manager ? or some dkms
[10:50] <Poindexter_> Hey guys, lots of times the mistake is that people forget sudo apt-get update     Update all of the time.
[10:50] <dr_willis> eric_hungern:  yes... thats how you clean out user settings..
[10:50] <Eagleman> nearst, that didnt work
[10:51] <eric_hungern> ah ok thank you so much guys
[10:51] <dr_willis> you wouldent want some sysadmin accidently removeing firefox and deleteing all the users firefox seting files. ;)
[10:51] <nearst> Eagleman, last time im use virt-manager, i also keep getting crash. so im not use that. --purge fun
[10:51] <elandy> help
[10:52] <Eagleman> nearst, it always worked fine for me, till the last reboot
[10:52] <nearst> oic. okies
[10:53] <Poindexter_> Dr Willis good point. Too many cooks spoil the broth. I don't let anyone touch my computers. Not a one. Hands off.
[10:54] <iKillCypher> hi guys how to run a bash script as root
[10:54] <nearst> iKillCypher, sudo -i
[10:55] <MonkeyDust> iKillCypher  what do you want to do? is it a custom script?
[10:56] <killer> what should i do when my mouse freezes and all the other applications works normally ......it get's normal after "sudo service restart lightdm"
[10:56] <Eagleman> I am getting the following error when starting virt-manager:  Error starting Virtual Machine Manager: No D-BUS daemon running  Any idea how to fix this?
[10:58] <Poindexter_> Killer it sounds like there is an application running in the background that is taking up a lot of resources. Windows is notorious for that.
[10:58] <iKillCypher> it is building android script
[10:58] <iKillCypher> how come we are not set as root as defult
[10:59] <stan879nz> hello ive installed xrpd and it is working but not my ubuntu screen is not working alt+ctrl+f1 is the only way i can get in
[10:59] <Poindexter_> IkillCypher because of security reasons.
[10:59] <killer> Poindexter_: according to "top" there is no such app
[11:00] <stan879nz> is there away to start the normal interface from alt+ctrl+f1
[11:01] <killer> is there a way i can get list of all packages installed involving the word "unity"
[11:01] <MonkeyDust> iKillCypher  root has been disabled in ubuntu
[11:01] <k1l> stan879nz: its on strg+alt+f7
[11:02] <k1l> stan879nz: you can restart the lightdm and try
[11:02] <dr_willis> iKillCypher:  sudo commandname
[11:02] <heraclitis> anyone know if there are drivers available for magicjack? i can't find anything on tigerjet.
[11:03] <llutz> killer: dpkg -l|grep unity
[11:03] <dr_willis> heraclitis:  last i looked.. no. maicjack does not work on linux. or in wine
[11:03] <dr_willis> heraclitis:  you may want to check the wine app database
[11:03] <dr_willis> !appdb | heraclitis
[11:04] <diego1542> hi :)
[11:04] <diego1542> who can help me?
[11:05] <dup> diego1542: With what do you need help?
[11:05] <heraclitis> dr_willis, I have, there's nothing there. I was hoping maybe someone had hacked it or something. i've almost had it working in wine before. I can virtualize, but virtual networking isn't sufficient for voip, even with a bridge. I'll keep checking back.
[11:05] <Poindexter_> Dr Willis does Magic Jack accept any area code number and apply it to their service? They claim to use your old or present number.
[11:05] <dr_willis> heraclitis:  i do rcall seeing a magicjack gizmo that dident need a pc at all..
[11:06] <dr_willis> Poindexter_:  no idea.. used it once a year+ ago...  was not impressed
[11:06] <diego1542> dup: i'm tryng to install vpnc on a vps. but i have this error vpnc: can't initialise tunnel interface: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[11:06] <dup> diego1542: Oh, sorry. I know next to nothing about networking. :(
[11:06] <dr_willis> !info vpnc
[11:06] <heraclitis> dr_willis,  there is one, I guess I'm a little disappointed they haven't provided linux support, it all.
[11:07] <dr_willis> heraclitis:  im suprised the company still exists...
[11:07] <heraclitis> It is a handy tool, have a local number to call friends and family if you're traveling.
[11:08] <dr_willis> dident really see much it did that i couldent do with google voice. ;)
[11:08] <nodrod> ?
[11:08] <dr_willis> then again.. thats why i have a cellphone. ;)
[11:08] <Poindexter_> hehe
[11:08] <diego1542> dr_willis i have installed that version...but i have that error...
[11:08] <heraclitis> dr_willis, YEah, I don't have a cell phone. Lol
[11:09] <dr_willis> heraclitis:  thats... downright.. weird.. in this day
[11:09] <heraclitis> dr_willis, I don't like the app permissions, so i'm striking until those change.
[11:09] <dr_willis> I think google has a little phone that just does google voice. ;) if you can find a wifi spot.
[11:09] <dr_willis> heraclitis:  so you will never have a phone then... ;)
[11:10] <linxon634> hjm
[11:10] <Poindexter_> Dr Willis I just learned something new.   Google voice. How is the quality QOS?
[11:10] <heraclitis> dr_willis, I'll look into that. And I'll probably never have a phone again, unless they change the permissions. I know android and iphone very well, they're amazing tools.
[11:11] <dr_willis> Poindexter_:  seemed ok to me - if you had decent hardware
[11:11] <nearst> dr_willis, which model
[11:11] <Poindexter_> I will check into that. Thanks for the heads up on that.  :)
[11:12] <Espen_> what package is it, that controls sound outputs on Ubuntu?
[11:13] <heraclitis> Espen_, pulseaudio
[11:14] <root__> hello
[11:14] <heraclitis> Espen_, more specifically, these packages http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/pulseaudio
[11:14] <root__> logout
[11:14] <root__> exit
[11:15] <root__> e
[11:15] <root__> x
[11:15] <FloodBot1> root__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:15] <root__> leaving
[11:15] <Espen_> herclitis, im trying to edit alsa-driver to pulseaudio on this bug
[11:15] <Espen_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/1132396
[11:15] <k1l> root__: //quit
[11:15] <Espen_> but it doesn't let me :(
[11:15] <root__> quit
[11:15] <root__> exit
[11:15] <root__> logout
[11:15] <bekks> root__: //quit
[11:15] <k1l> root__: type "/quit"
[11:15] <bekks> root__: Do not omit the /
[11:16] <Espen_> lol nvm, it seems to have done it now.
[11:16] <Poindexter_> Bekks your funny.  :)
[11:16] <bekks> Poindexter_: Am I?
[11:17] <Poindexter_> Yes. That was good. "Do not omit the /"
[11:18] <dup> !natty
[11:19] <heraclitis> is it true that ubuntu 13.04 has been released for android?
[11:19] <dr_willis> !phone
[11:19] <dr_willis> its not exactly 13.04
[11:19] <k1l> heraclitis: no
[11:20] <boriseto> A question, if I may. For some reason I don't get new notifications in the messaging indicator (for emails or empathy messages). I really don't know what the problem is and I miss on chat messages because of it.
[11:22] <Poindexter_> Dr Willis it has been a pleasure to see you again and Bekks. Hope to see you again. God's speed to all here. Take care my friends.
[11:23]  * heraclitis thanks poindexter
[11:25] <nearst> :)
[11:26] <kanha> Which shell can specify the user cannot log into the system in /etc/passwd? is it /bin/bash  or 	/bin/csh or /sbin/nologin  or	/nologin
[11:26] <dr_willis> hmm.. the chsh command may show what shells are allwed
[11:26] <dr_willis> it wouldent be /nologin ;)
[11:26] <bekks> kanha: Depends on how the user tries to "log in". Normally, it is /sbin/nologin, since /nologin doesnt exist.
[11:26] <dr_willis> and bash and sh and csh are normal shells.
[11:27] <kanha> bekks: thanks
[11:27] <dr_willis> theres a way to disable the user account if thats what you want
[11:27] <bekks> And in additions, all these settings have no effect when logging in via FTP e.g.
[11:27] <k1l>  /bin/false was what i used to use. dont know if there is a better way
[11:27] <T4shi> Hi someone can tell howto disactivate network-manager and activate also networking?
[11:28] <kanha> When sftp is used, which is used to upload a file?
[11:28] <T4shi> instead*
[11:28] <bekks> kanha: SFTP uses PAM which relies on your /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow - and SFTP has nothing to do with FTP :)
[11:28] <T4shi> networking instead network-manager
[11:29] <kanha> hash or get or put or recv? which is used by sftp to upload file
[11:30] <Eagleman> I am getting the following error when starting virt-manager:  Error starting Virtual Machine Manager: No D-BUS daemon running  Any idea how to fix this?
[11:32] <riqdiiz> Eagleman: in shell?
[11:32] <T4shi> Hi someone can tell howto disactivate network-manager and activate networking?
[11:33] <dr_willis> askubuntu.com might have a guide on alternatives to network-manager
[11:33] <k1l> T4shi: if you do the setup in the netowrk/interfaces NM will not be used
[11:33] <dr_willis> why are you needing to do this?
[11:34] <Eagleman> riqdiiz, i type virt-manager and a windows should open using x forwarding with ssh
[11:34] <decci_> I have VMware Workstation installed on laptop. I have a Linux machine with eth0 IP being 192.168.160.134. Now I need to add private interface for communicating internally. So I opened Network Virtual Editor and saw quite few different ranges like 192.168.171.0, 192.168.0.0, 192.168.77.x and so on..Now I choosed 192.168.171.129 and added it under ubuntu . I have no idea what gateway I need to provide. All I tried pinging to eth1 and 
[11:34] <Eagleman> It does that, however it shows that error
[11:34] <decci_> I am able to ping 192.168.160.134 => eth0 but not 192.168.171.128
[11:34] <decci_> DHCP setting shows  Network : vmnet1 Subnet IP:192.168.171.0 Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0 Start IP: 192.168.171.128 End IP: 192.168.171.254
[11:34] <decci_> I configured two interface for this VM: one I chose for NAT and other for Host-Only > VMnet
[11:34] <T4shi> k1l: i've done it but the service with sudo service networking status is stop/waiting after sudo service networking start
[11:34] <decci_> I am able to ping outside world but not to internal IP I just configured internally
[11:35] <MonkeyDust> decci_  try ##networking    (that's double #)
[11:35] <T4shi> k1l:  but the service seems running. :/
[11:35] <nearst> sudo service network-manager stop?
[11:37] <T4shi> nearst: stop: Unknown instance:
[11:37] <kanha> using sed I want what tail -f gives. how it can be done?
[11:37] <nearst> gnome network-manager running as daemon 0,0
[11:37] <riqdiiz> I guess I would restart
[11:38] <riqdiiz> *reboot Eagleman
[11:38] <Mini_Evo> #elementary
[11:39] <T4shi> sudo service network-manager status > stop/waiting k1l, nearst: I don't understand your last message. Is it a command?
[11:39] <Eagleman> riqdiiz, thats not working
[11:40] <dr_willis> sed oneliner examples ->   http://www.catonmat.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/sed1line.txt
[11:41] <arowana> hello
[11:41] <AtuM> hello.. I'm trying to revive /dev/shm on ubuntu 12.10. What I've done so far is commented out a line in /etc/init/mounted-dev.conf to NOT create a link /dev/shm -> /run/shm, and to create a folder /dev/shm. I've also added a line to mount tmpfs to /dev/shm in fstab. and just to be sure I've entered "mount -a" to /etc/rc.local .. is that good enough - did I forget about something or is there an easier way to do it?
[11:41] <k1l> T4shi: NM is build into gnome, i dont think getting rid of it will be easy. but you can start another network manager programm if you want
[11:42] <arowana> Hi all, have installed 12.10, but its mounting / in read only mode? Plz help
[11:42] <riqdiiz> Check that all services are running
[11:42] <dr_willis> arowana:  could be the fs is currupted.. it boots normally?
[11:43] <arowana> hello dr_willis
[11:43] <arowana>  dr_willis: how to correct it
[11:43] <killer_> i uninstalled a couple of packages and now it says system can't detect graphics,input devices ...run on low graphics?
[11:43] <dr_willis> fsck the filesystem. and try remounting it read-write
[11:43] <arowana> dr_willis: rt now booted in live usb
[11:44] <Techathy> I'm trying to setup a ubuntu 12.04  fileserver with ldap authentication. I've followed the 12.10 OepnLDAP server guide & I can get my linux clients to auth against the server fine.
[11:44] <dr_willis> !fsck
[11:44] <arowana> dr_willis: can I correct fstab
[11:44] <nibbler> arowana: what kind of system is that, by any chance a xen/xenserver vm?
[11:44] <Techathy> However Mac OS X is being a right pain & won't recognise my users  this is the problem I hit - http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=a2xie&s=6
[11:44] <dr_willis> arowana:  i dont see how you had a fstab issue
[11:44] <Techathy> anyone got some ideas?
[11:45] <arowana> no its EXT4
[11:45] <arowana> dr_willis: Done so many installations, got jammed frst time
[11:45] <bhavesh> k bb
[11:45] <arowana> ok dr_willis: fsck done
[11:45] <T4shi> k1l:  I can't use networking service I don't know how i'm connecting. When I sudo ifdown eth0 I still connected (networking service and network-manager service are stop/waiting)
[11:45] <bhavesh> wrong post :(
[11:45] <nibbler> arowana: check dmesg for the reason for the remount,ro
[11:45] <dr_willis> arowana:  if the fs or hd has issues.. it can get remounted read only as a security feature
[11:45] <arowana> ok
[11:46] <arowana> hmm
[11:46] <arowana> Rt now from Live_USB, I have mounted it in rw
[11:46] <nibbler> arowana: you have a standard harddrive, or some remote iscsi/fc foo?
[11:46] <arowana> executed fsck
[11:46] <arowana> standard one
[11:46] <arowana> btw nibbler hello
[11:47] <arowana> can i change any thing in mtab or fstab??
[11:47] <nibbler> arowana: hi. you can modify it to your liking, but ofc. should know what you do if you touch it
[11:47] <killer_> how do i replace lightdm with gdm
[11:47] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install gdm
[11:48] <arowana> let me paste fsck results
[11:48] <arowana> fsck from util-linux 2.20.1
[11:48] <arowana> e2fsck 1.42.5 (29-Jul-2012)
[11:48] <arowana> /dev/sdb5: recovering journal
[11:48] <arowana> /dev/sdb5 contains a file system with errors, check forced.
[11:48] <arowana> Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes
[11:48] <arowana> Pass 2: Checking directory structure
[11:48] <FloodBot1> arowana: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:48] <AtuM> just rebooted... the /dev/shm is revived successfully.. oracle 11.2g can now run
[11:48] <dr_willis> let it check.. then reboot.
[11:49] <arowana> should I try and reboot system?
[11:49] <dr_willis> let it check.. then reboot....
[11:49] <arowana> any other command for file system checking?
[11:50] <dr_willis> not really
[11:50] <dr_willis> !fsck
[11:50] <T4shi> Hi someone can tell howto disactivate network-manager and activate networking?
[11:50] <arowana> uninstall network-manager
[11:50] <arowana> apt-get uninstall network-manager
[11:50] <arowana> ok dr_willis / nibbler...b back in few minutes
[11:51] <T4shi> ok thanks
[11:51] <arowana> doing reboot
[11:51] <T4shi> thanks arowana
[11:51] <arowana> bye for now
[11:53] <T4shi> Hi someone can tell How can I know with wich service am I connecting to internet with my ubuntu if I have unistalled network-manager?
[11:54] <dr_willis> services? huh? you are  just setting your ip and dns and other info differntly.
[11:54] <dr_willis> you could do it with the ifconfig* and other networking commands.
[11:54] <crackerjackz> i would like to find a program that will use my webcam to take pictures of the room and i want to set it to automatically a picture every few seconds or so. what would i need to do that?
[11:55] <heraclitis> T4shi, this might help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=684495
[11:56] <crackerjackz> i imagine there are probably quite a few programs that do various things with your webcam, aye?
[11:56] <T4shi> thanks heraclitis
[11:57] <heraclitis> T4shi, no problem
[11:57] <dr_willis> search the reposiutories crackerjackz ?    id check askubuntu.com also
[11:58] <crackerjackz> dr_willis, maybe something like sudo apt-cache search webcam ?
[11:59] <dr_willis> try it and see. ;)
[11:59] <T4shi> dr_willis: Isn't any service that handles the interfaces configured in etc/netowrk/interfaces?
[11:59] <dr_willis> apt-cache search webcam monitor
[11:59] <crackerjackz> dr_willis, i was kind of hoping to get first hand experience from someone about a program they have used and know works rather than just going and installing a bunch of random software on my computer
[11:59] <dr_willis> T4shi:  no idea. ive rarely needed to use anything other then the default network manager
[12:00] <dr_willis> crackerjackz:  there may be new stuff no one in here has used  stuff is constantly getting added to the repos.
[12:00] <dr_willis> and old stuff goes away.. id suggest the webcam-studio - but its not in the repos.. and i dont think has been developed a lot lately
[12:01] <T4shi> just for make visible in the LAN and so in internet a vm in bridgemode with virtualbox dr_willis
[12:01] <crackerjackz> dr_willis, yeah i've used that before... was a god send to me when it first come out cause i was so used to many cam for windows but i gave up windows all together
[12:03] <crackerjackz> dr_willis, it appears my webcam has stopped working. i didn't realize it until just now.. i just recently upgraded to 12.10
[12:04] <crackerjackz> lsusb says Bus 002 Device 002: ID 05a9:2640 OmniVision Technologies, Inc. OV2640 Webcam
[12:08] <dr_willis> I rarely ever use a webcam,. so no idea on them.
[12:09] <heraclitis> crackerjackz, here are a couple links that might help, but I don't see your camera specifically supported. http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/Webcam-HOWTO/ http://alpha.dyndns.org/ov511/
[12:12] <SkylordMCI> Hi
[12:14] <crackerjackz> heraclitis, dr_willis i fixed my webcam sudo rmmod uvcvideo and sudo modprobe uvcvideo fixed it
[12:14] <heraclitis> crackerjackz, very nice :)
[12:14]  * heraclitis @ crackerjackz ^5
[12:20] <W|cKeD> i mess up my ubuntu 10.04 in sudo now i can't open a single application to work how can i get back to the default settings of my ubuntu 10.04 lts?
[12:21] <arowana> Hello all
[12:21] <arowana> dr_willis u there?
[12:21] <heraclitis> W|cKeD, depends on what you did. What was the last command you entered that made your settings go defunct?
[12:22] <arowana> Hi all
[12:25] <W|cKeD> i can't hardly remember heraclitis  :(
[12:25] <W|cKeD> i think my /etc/sudoer somethin
[12:25] <Guest71661> Hello all, / filesystem loading in readonly n e way to fix that already done fsck
[12:27] <W|cKeD> heraclitis: my File System which is / folders bin boot ..... got this locked icon
[12:27] <nearst> hiya fren
[12:27] <dmbaturin> How do I disable a module from loading from grub command line? i2c_piix4.blacklist=yes didn't help.
[12:27] <dr_willis> hmm?
[12:28] <dmbaturin> I have Ubuntu 10.04.
[12:28] <dmbaturin> If it matters.
[12:28] <iKillCypher> guys I need help making myself root
[12:28] <iKillCypher> I cant access the root folder
[12:28] <dr_willis> W|cKeD:  we really need detailas as to what you did. and what  is going on.
[12:28] <nearst> iKillCypher, sudo -i
[12:29] <dr_willis> !sudo
[12:29] <iKillCypher> folder is disable
[12:29] <dr_willis> iKillCypher:  'folder is disable' makes no sence
[12:29] <iKillCypher> you dont have permission
[12:29] <dr_willis> sudo touch /testfile.txt
[12:29] <iKillCypher> to view the contents of root
[12:29] <dr_willis> should put a file on your / partitions
[12:30] <dr_willis> a normal user can see the contents of /   just not change stuff
[12:30] <iKillCypher> so how now ?
[12:30] <iKillCypher> Sources synced to
[12:30] <iKillCypher> root@ikillcypher:~/android/system
[12:31] <dr_willis> why are you doing work as your 'root' user? and saveing stuff in /root/ ?
[12:31] <iKillCypher> it is android that does that
[12:32] <iKillCypher> so how do I view the root user now ?
[12:32] <dr_willis> if you are accessing files in /root/ you need to so via the sudo rights
[12:32] <Guest71661> hello dr_willis
[12:32] <Guest71661> arowana here
[12:33] <iKillCypher> and how do I do that is there any other way ?
[12:33] <crackerjackz> does anyone know of any gif animators besides imagemagick
[12:33] <Guest71661> fsck didnt do...still / mounting in readonly mode
[12:33] <crackerjackz> can i turn video into gif?
[12:33] <Guest71661> dr_willis: arowana here...
[12:35] <markovh> are there any pdf readers that will do text to speech?
[12:35] <markovh> (for ubuntu obviously, i know there's quite a few in windows)
[12:37] <invariant> In Nautilus, how do I make sure that the currently active file has some kind of background which indicated that it is the current file?
[12:37] <sonOfRa> markovh, orca can do screen reading
[12:37] <invariant> indicates
[12:37] <sonOfRa> orca is a general tool for screen reading, it should work with a pdf viewer of your choice, probably evince too
[12:39] <njittam> I'm trying to get a internet connection via a windows pc. but both say no cable connected. but if i place a switch between the two pc's it does connect. how do i solve this?
[12:40] <nearst> use straight cable and do network sharing :D
[12:40] <dr_willis> njittam:  if you are going network card -> network card.. You need either a crossover cable.. or a gigibit nic.
[12:42] <njittam> ty
[12:44] <markovh> sonOfRa: seems really fiddley. doesn't actually read the contents of the pdf in evince, just read the name of the window or menus i select
[12:46] <landau> hello,  when i click on an hard disk it's mounted automatically in ubuntu 12.04 but it's mounted with noexec option. How to fix it to allow execution of files?
[12:46] <markovh> landau: ok using the terminal?
[12:46] <landau> yes!
[12:46] <markovh> try doing df -h and see what disk it is (/dev/sda1 /dev/sdc3 etc)
[12:47] <markovh> then do sudo mount -o remount /dev/sdbla214
[12:47] <landau> ok i'll try it now!
[12:48] <markovh> or use the mount point. so something like /media/mountbla. I'm half guessing. technically the noexec is an option so not specifying it when you remount -should- remove it
[12:48] <landau> mount told me
[12:49] <landau> "Remounting is not supported at present. You have to umount volume and then mount it once again"
[12:49] <markovh> ok so i guess umount /dev/bla, then you'll likely have to create a folder to mount it so sudo mkdir /media/mymount
[12:50] <markovh> and then sudo mount /dev/bla /media/mymout. what filesystem is it btw?
[12:50] <landau> ntfs
[12:50] <landau> yes but i lost all user permissions cause it's mounted as root
[12:50] <markovh> was just about to say that
[12:50] <markovh> owned by another user sound good?
[12:50] <markovh> or is it for the system
[12:51] <markovh> (like everyone should be able to read)
[12:51] <landau> when i mount it with sudo it's mounted as root:root
[12:51] <markovh> right, but what do you want it to be owned as
[12:52] <greek> Hi I'm installing ubuntu server 12.04 LTS via USB and the partition section isn't detecting my SATA hard drive any ideas?
[12:52] <markovh> a regular user? or do you want everyone to be able to read it
[12:52] <landau> owned as me (i'm the user ciccio)
[12:52] <markovh> ok so lookup your uid and gid (run "id" as yourself)
[12:53] <markovh> and then mount /dev/bla -o uid=1234,gid=1234 etc where your user/group is your own
[12:53] <markovh> or /dev/bla -o uid=1234,gid=1234 /media/mymount rather
[12:53] <landau> ok
[12:53] <landau> i'll try it...many thanks!!
[12:54] <markovh> np
[12:54] <greek> please msg my nickname if you can help so that my irc icon flashes, tanks
[12:55] <dr_willis> !test > greek
[12:55] <greek> ?
[12:55] <markovh> that's kind of cool
[12:55] <dr_willis> the bot msgd you. ;P
[12:55] <markovh> !help
[12:56] <greek> markovh, I did ask the question up above but I didn't want to interrupt you again whilst you were helping landau
[12:56] <markovh> greek: what sorry?
[12:56] <greek> Hi I'm installing ubuntu server 12.04 LTS via USB and the partition section isn't detecting my SATA hard drive any ideas?
[12:56] <greek> thanks :)
[12:57] <markovh> what do you mean via usb btw?
[12:57] <markovh> usb installer or got ubuntu installed on a usb key
[12:57] <greek> markovh, usb installer
[12:57] <greek> I'm wondering if this is the case: http://askubuntu.com/questions/99038/why-the-ubuntu-installer-does-not-detect-the-hard-drive-during-installation
[12:57] <greek> busy rebooting now to figure that out
[12:57] <dr_willis> you could partion befornakd using gparted  or parted
[12:58] <markovh> greek: try looking for "disk utility" in your programs
[12:58] <markovh> greek: oh you haven't installed it yet right?
[12:58] <greek> yeah busy installing
[12:58] <markovh> as in, when you went to install, it didn't see a hard drive to install on?
[12:58] <greek> or trying to install
[12:58] <greek> markovh, yeah
[12:59] <markovh> ah... that i haven't seen before tbh... are you able to boot into it without installing?
[12:59] <markovh> normally the usb/cd have a "try it out" or something like it without installing first
[13:00] <dfgdfgdg> I have a 4 mhz or something IBM, is it worth anything ?
[13:00] <krasnozer> how come the gui are all screwed up when i log in xfce or lxde? I installed the *buntu-desktop pacakges on a regulat 12.10, but they look bad
[13:00] <krasnozer> like, the themes don't work
[13:00] <dr_willis> what themes?
[13:00] <nearst> lubuntu-core rulez
[13:00] <krasnozer> well
[13:00] <krasnozer> i got artefacts
[13:01] <krasnozer> like the black unity menu bar no matter what theme i select
[13:01] <krasnozer> same of the systray and other gui elements
[13:01] <markovh> dfgdfgdg: sentimentally perhaps
[13:01] <dr_willis> post some screenshots perhaps.
[13:02] <krasnozer> there really isn't much to it, i<
[13:03] <dr_willis> could be a driver issue, or bug also.
[13:03] <krasnozer> .i.e. i got pieces of the default unity theme in other de no matter what gtk theme i choose
[13:03] <dr_willis> try with a new user. see if they also look funny
[13:04] <krasnozer> ok good idea
[13:04] <AndChat299081> Hi
[13:05] <dr_willis> hello
[13:08] <jrtappers> How do I change the small text under my programs name in software center?
[13:10] <greek> markovh, I'm in my bios but it doesn't seem to find my hard drive
[13:10] <greek> not sure if ubuntu isn't finding it for the same reasons
[13:10] <greek> it's definitely spinning up (i can hear it)
[13:10] <markovh> greek: well does another os find it?
[13:11] <markovh> does your windows machine see it for instance?
[13:11] <markovh> windows os rather
[13:11] <greek> markovh, what's the best way to test that?
[13:11] <greek> unplug it from one computer etc?
[13:11] <markovh> install windows?
[13:11] <greek> don't have a copy of widows
[13:12] <greek> windows-free since 2003
[13:12] <markovh> ok so do you think this is an "ubuntu/linux can't see my hard drive" issue or "my hard drive may be fucked and isn't working" issue
[13:12] <markovh> if it's the first, then the easiest way to verify it is to install another os or plug the hard drive into a machine with windows installed or some other os installed.
[13:12] <nearst> either your hard drive is getting dead or your mobo
[13:12] <markovh> if it's the second, live cd. look at dmesg outputs and disk utility like i said earlier
[13:13] <markovh> make sure you've got all sata "device slots" enabled in the bios btw
[13:13] <master_> habe ne frage hoffe es kann wer helfen   ich versuche mit wget videostreams (aufzunehmen) zu laden weiß einer von euch wie das geht??
[13:14] <nearst> !de | master_
[13:14] <master_> thanks
[13:15] <AndChat299081>  http://tinyurl.com/bjgbm57         Or        http://tinyurl.com/aufgcsc.   Please help me choose..
[13:16] <nearst> AndChat299081, both still amd
[13:16] <greek> markovh, yeah sorry I don't want to waste your time if it's simply a broken hard drive. I'll ask some questions in #hardware regarding the bios setup and will keep you posted if I find something ubuntu-related to this issue. Thanks anyway
[13:17] <AndChat299081> They have different video cards
[13:18] <AndChat299081> And I don't know which one to choose
[13:20] <invariant> How do I install the latest fglrx on Ubuntu? I installed the xorg edgers version, but somehow you managed to broke it again...
[13:20] <invariant> break it again
[13:21] <nearst> probs fglrx actually broke atm. goes to radeon/mesa
[13:22] <invariant> nearst, probs?
[13:22] <invariant> nearst, yes, it is using mesa now, I think.
[13:22] <rabbi1> how to update from php 5.3.10 to 5.4.12 on ubuntu 12.04 ?
[13:22] <invariant> I suppose that's better than having to get a rescue cd to get a graphical session.
[13:22] <invariant> But still, I want to use fglrx.
[13:23] <nearst> afaik there is a howto for purge fglrx* package and reinstall radeon driver+opengl
[13:23] <invariant> nearst, am I speaking Chinese?
[13:23] <invariant> nearst, I don't want the radeon driver.
[13:24] <invariant> nearst, because it sucks IMNSHO.
[13:24] <nearst> yeah. 1024x768 resolution make me not enough air to live
[13:24] <invariant> nearst, ???
[13:25] <nearst> when im using radeon. my max resolution only 1024x768
[13:25] <invariant> nearst, then you are doing something wrong.
[13:26] <nearst> so im downgrade to precise
[13:26] <auronandace> nearst: i hope you mean reinstall
[13:26] <auronandace> !downgrade
[13:27] <nearst> im purge clean to minimal install and reinstall back 0,0
[13:27] <invariant> !en
[13:28] <datruth> What can I use to capture sound and stream to shoutcast?
[13:28] <iKillCypher> damn why is the root disable o.o
[13:28] <iKillCypher> I keep getting permission denied
[13:28] <auronandace> !noroot | iKillCypher
[13:28] <nearst> sudo -i instead
[13:29] <bekks> iKillCypher: Thats a security feature, because an enabled root account simply offers more risks than benefits. And it isnt needed.
[13:30] <Lisandra_brave> if you need to be root for whatever reason, you can sudo su
[13:30] <auronandace> Lisandra_brave: no
[13:30] <OerHeks> sudo su is bad, sudo -i is the ubuntu way
[13:31] <auronandace> OerHeks +1
[13:32] <LiquidDemocracy> I was just using google maps with Firefox and there was this option to try out the new Google GL 3D feature. However, now Firefox always crashes whenever I go to maps.google.com
[13:32] <iKillCypher> ikillcypher@ikillcypher:~$ adb shell dmesg
[13:32] <iKillCypher> klogctl: Operation not permitted
[13:32] <nearst> sudo adb shell
[13:33] <yown> photorec seems to make files and directories that lack permissions on them. I manage to delete the files within the directories with sudo delete commands, but those won't let me delete the directories themselves
[13:33] <rabbi1> how to update from php 5.3.10 to 5.4.12 on ubuntu 12.04 ?
[13:33] <mao> 有很多人吗？
[13:33] <yown> why is photorec making files without permissions on them, and how can I delete these directories?
[13:33] <nearst> !cn | mao
[13:34] <mao> ok
[13:34] <yown> these folders
[13:34] <nibbler> yown: sudo rm -rf /path/to/folder (use with care)
[13:34] <dr_willis> ls -l foldername    and show us what you mean
[13:35] <OerHeks> LiquidDemocracy, start FF in safe mode rom terminal: firefox --safe-mode. or you can also start Firefox in Safe Mode by holding down the Shift key while starting Firefox. and undo that 3d mode/remove plugin? ( i don't  use FF )
[13:35] <yown> dr_willis:  It said "total 0"
[13:36] <Guest67656> ciao
[13:36] <Guest67656> llist
[13:37] <dr_willis> no lists here Guest67656
[13:38] <yown> So any ideas why photorec is making files without permission? Another odd thing, it seems photorec can fill the partition long after it says 0 space
[13:39] <nearst> it using "." file?
[13:39] <yown> What are you asking?
[13:42] <yown> Anyone?
[13:42] <SolarisBoy> what do you mean making files without permission?
[13:42] <yown> The files lack permission, I need to sudo to delete them etc
[13:43] <yown> the system won't allow me to alter or delete them, when I try it says I dont have permission
[13:43] <nearst> bcoz photorec use sudo to make those file :D
[13:43] <SolarisBoy> how does it lack permission? can you show the listing of the file so the permission fields can be read?
[13:44] <yown> Well, all but a few directories are deleted, how do I show you permission fields?
[13:44] <SolarisBoy> ls -l
[13:44] <yown> Is there a way to open nautilus in sudo?
[13:45] <SolarisBoy> you shouldn't have to - sure there is
[13:45] <OerHeks> gksudo nautilus &
[13:45] <SolarisBoy> gksudo nautilus
[13:45] <yown> SolarisBoy: "total 0" is what it said
[13:46] <yown> shouldn't have to, but do apparently with photorec
[13:46] <SolarisBoy> yown: if it's a directory - use ls -ld please
[13:46] <SolarisBoy> dought that -
[13:46] <SolarisBoy> but ok
[13:46] <k1l> yown: make in terminal "ls -al /path/to/folder" and show that in pastebin
[13:46] <SolarisBoy> whatever lists the files so we can see them - both work
[13:46] <yown> solaris drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 20480 2013-02-24 07:25 /home/me/Documents/recup_dir.1/recup_dir.3
[13:47] <SolarisBoy> so your problem is ownership not permissions
[13:47] <SolarisBoy> stop running photorec as root (sudo)
[13:47] <yown> I just ran it from apps in menu
[13:47] <SolarisBoy> you should have permis to write here /home/me/Documents/recup_dir.1/recup_dir.3 - but leaving root owned files there is not needed and causing your issue
[13:47] <SolarisBoy> then thats a retarded app then
[13:48] <SolarisBoy> b-slap the dev
[13:48] <yown> I don't know about ownership, but I  do lack permission
[13:48] <SolarisBoy> root root  |ownership
[13:48] <yown> !pastbin
[13:49] <yown> what is the web address for the ubuntu pastebin again?
[13:49] <SolarisBoy> your perms seem fine user can read write execute and group and other can read and execute -
[13:49] <yown> though with like 3 lines, it hardly seems worth it
[13:49] <bekks> !pastebin | yown
[13:49] <SolarisBoy> yown: sudo apt-get install pastebinit and pipe output into it
[13:50] <yown> How do I put the command to pipe it into pastebinit?
[13:50] <Mathias> possible to share a usb-device? or some form of getting /dev/usb/lp0 from a remote machine to my laptop
[13:51] <SolarisBoy> yown: for instance if you ran 'ls /tmp | pastebinit'
[13:51] <SolarisBoy> you would then give us the link it returns on your terminal
[13:51] <yown> How do you make that line before pastebinit?
[13:52] <SolarisBoy> oh sorry
[13:52] <yown> well I manually did it through webpage anyway http://paste.ubuntu.com/5561632/
[13:52] <SolarisBoy> im not sure your kb type if QWERTY look on top of enter it's a button you need to hit SHIFT and the backslash for
[13:53] <yown> So I put | pastebinit at the end of what ever command?
[13:53] <^DEMOSS^> i need help. in loading process i can see initramfs console. if i wanna continue loading i must type exit command
[13:53] <Mathias> basically, yes
[13:53] <SolarisBoy> you actually showed me that output already - like i said - no reason for root owned things to be in your home directory - no need for any app to do that by default unless its being run as sudo or was initially run as sudo or something
[13:54] <SolarisBoy> the only problem i see there is your dir's being root:root owned and not owned by the user you see when you probably type "id"
[13:54] <SolarisBoy> thats your issue -
[13:54] <^DEMOSS^> what i need to do, if i wanna automaticaly normal loading on my uuntu 12/04 desktop
[13:54] <SolarisBoy> its the only reason you would get perm denied - and sudo should allow you to deal with removing or whatever of those folders
[13:54] <SolarisBoy> so if you want them gone sudo rm -r them
[13:54] <SolarisBoy> if there is stuff in them add -f
[13:55] <Pessimist> Hey, does flash player on linux have video acceleration? Have they fixed it?
[13:55] <SolarisBoy> yown: ^ and then paste the error IF you get on in that case
[13:56] <yown> It is weird that help doesn't have info on rm, help lacks info on lots of files, fortunately I remembered the command or Id have been in trouble
[13:56] <SolarisBoy> other wise sudo chown username:username the directory - replacing with your actual username on that system if you wish to keep it and it to be accessible by you - in fact you should maybe chown -R to recursively do it
[13:56] <yown> I mean help lacks info on lots of commands
[13:56] <SolarisBoy> yown: man will have the stuff your looking for
[13:56] <klrr> hey, i got a problem, i installed just the base system, now i've installed alsa and pulseaudio, but when i run "alsamixer" i get this message: "cannot open mixer: No such file or directory" how do i get the sound to work?
[13:56] <SolarisBoy> help is just mainly for shell built ins
[13:57] <yown> SolarisBoy: man doesn't work on its own
[13:57] <bekks> yown: "man rm" is poretty short but provides all relevant information.
[13:57] <SolarisBoy> yown: man takes an argument
[13:57] <SolarisBoy> the command you want the manual for
[13:57] <SolarisBoy> man rm
[13:57] <bekks> *pretty
[13:57] <yown> bekks, that only works if you know the command rm in the first place....
[13:57] <SolarisBoy> right - which is why you can also type 'man man'
[13:57] <bekks> yown: Thats how man is supposed to work.
[13:57] <SolarisBoy> and see search options
[13:58] <dr_willis> if you doint know the command is rm - then i have to suggest spending an hr - reading some bash tutorials...
[13:58] <SolarisBoy> - lets use our commons here
[13:58] <dr_willis> that should cover the basics
[13:58] <^DEMOSS^> i need help. in loading process i can see initramfs console. if i wanna continue loading i must type exit command
[13:58] <^DEMOSS^> what i need to do, if i wanna automaticaly normal loading on my uuntu 12/04 desktop
[13:58] <dr_willis> wasent a lot of this mentioned  last week. or a few days ago? i seem to recall some bash tutoring for photorec ussers last week sometime.
[13:59] <klrr> hey, i got a problem, i installed just the base system, now i've installed alsa and pulseaudio, but when i run "alsamixer" i get this message: "cannot open mixer: No such file or directory" how do i get the sound to work?
[13:59] <SolarisBoy> yown: you still haven't really said what your problem is - what exactly gives you permission denied if you didn't use rm previously?
[13:59] <dr_willis> klrr:  perhaps the modules/drivers for your card have not been loaded yet
[13:59] <yown> SolarisBoy: What are you asking?
[13:59] <SolarisBoy> what exactly gives you permission denied if you didn't use rm previously?
[14:00] <yown> You didn't say it any differently
[14:00] <SolarisBoy> im not going to
[14:00] <Pessimist> Is anyone using adobe flash player here? If so, could you go to youtube and right click then "show video info" and check if the video rendering/video decoding is accelerated?
[14:01] <yown> If you are going to ask questions the other person doesn't understand, and refuse to rephrase upon request, you just waste your time since an answer is impossible
[14:01] <SolarisBoy> heh
[14:01] <^DEMOSS^> help meeee
[14:01] <klrr> dr_willis: they're loaded, also , when i run "sudo alsamixer" it works, but not when i run as user, i think it might be that im not in audio group, so i will do that and log in and out
[14:02] <TuxBlackEdo> Six Strikes Anti-Piracy Scheme Starts Monday http://torrentfreak.com/six-strikes-anti-piracy-scheme-starts-monday-130223/
[14:02] <TuxBlackEdo> wtf.....
[14:02] <SolarisBoy> i thought it started already with Time Warner and other ISPs
[14:02] <SolarisBoy> ::shrugs::
[14:02] <TuxBlackEdo> yeah
[14:02] <TuxBlackEdo> but I always said "oh i got an open wifi connection" xD
[14:03] <SolarisBoy> lol
[14:03] <yown> They are already doing that...
[14:03] <^DEMOSS^> aanyy bodyyy
[14:03] <yown> I experienced that myself
[14:03] <^DEMOSS^> i need help. in loading process i can see initramfs console. if i wanna continue loading i must type exit command
[14:03] <Mathias> doucheisps
[14:04] <dr_willis> ^DEMOSS^:  shoulds like the kernel update process goofed up. unless you have been doing anything weird.
[14:04] <SolarisBoy> i encrypt my torrent traffic anyway so blah
[14:04] <TuxBlackEdo> they'll rate limit your connection
[14:04] <TuxBlackEdo> also
[14:04] <TuxBlackEdo> its not DMCA notices
[14:04] <yeats> !ot | TuxBlackEdo
[14:05] <^DEMOSS^> dr_willis: what i need to do ?
[14:05] <TuxBlackEdo> I think the ISP themselves will deep packet inspect your connection
[14:05] <master_> some german people here??
[14:05] <TuxBlackEdo> sorry yeats
[14:05] <bekks> !de | master_
[14:05] <yeats> ^DEMOSS^: looks like you're asking the same questions in #debian - which are you running, debian or ubuntu?
[14:06] <SolarisBoy> they better get a magnifying glass then
[14:07] <yown> Does ubuntu underreport free space so that it has room for itself?
[14:08] <bekks> No.
[14:08] <SolarisBoy> no
[14:08] <awaad> When I try to opean my synaptic I get the following error : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5561662/
[14:08] <SolarisBoy> there is that reserved space thing though --
[14:08] <awaad> Any one can help please ?
[14:09] <yown> Because the files that photorec made, I deleted ALOT of them, and had zero space still, and photorec continues to recover files after the system had told me there was no more room on the partition
[14:09] <yeats> awaad: you'll want to remove your PPAs
[14:09] <awaad> yeats: How ?
[14:10] <SolarisBoy> yown: if that is actually accurate - then you can use lsof to confirm if you have files that are marked as (deleted)
[14:10] <yeats> !ppa | awaad
[14:10] <SolarisBoy> which means they still have a descriptor open and that photorec needs to be stopped to reclaim the space
[14:10] <dr_willis> !ppapurge
[14:10] <dr_willis> !ppa-purge
[14:10] <awaad> !ppa-purge
[14:10] <yeats> of course installing ppa-purge might not be possible with APT in its current state
[14:11] <yown> SolarisBoy: I thought of that, and closed up photorec, and still didnt have free space, I even deleted some video files that had nothing to do with the files being recovered and it told me no space
[14:11] <awaad> !ppa-purge | awaad
[14:11] <SolarisBoy> yown: what do you mean closed it? like closed the gui? because if something is re-creating files it's possible that there is still a PID(s) alive which are owned by photorec
[14:11] <dr_willis> the software center/source manager should let him disable the ppas also.. just not purge them
[14:11] <yeats> dr_willis: right
[14:12] <yown> SolarisBoy: it runs in terminal, I choose the command to shut it down, and then closed the terminal
[14:12] <SolarisBoy> yown: have you confirmed that?
[14:12] <yown> and surely deleting some 300mb or so if video file should have given me more space then 0
[14:12] <SolarisBoy> or is that just an assumption?
[14:13] <awaad> yeats: Which PPAs should I remove ?
[14:13] <yown> SolarisBoy: I can confirm that is what I did, because I witnessed me doing it
[14:13] <SolarisBoy> have you actually run ps and confirmed what was in the process table - or did you just assume the application was stopped?
[14:13] <SolarisBoy> ok ...
[14:13] <yown> so ubuntu must underreport free space for me
[14:14] <SolarisBoy> have you then alternatively run something like lsof on the photrec pid while it's running to see what all files it has open?
[14:14] <dr_willis> df -m   shows sizes im mb i belive
[14:14] <SolarisBoy> no
[14:14] <yown> Not sure how to do that, but what difference does it make which particular files it is recovering?
[14:14] <bekks> df -m show sizes in 1M blocks.
[14:14] <SolarisBoy> correct
[14:15] <SolarisBoy> df -h is probably what you want for human readable
[14:15] <k1l> hmm, what is the magicsysrq to kill the xserver? alt+print+k doesnt work here
[14:15] <dr_willis> if its recoverying as you are deleteing.. it could still be showing full.. because it fills up as fast as you delete things
[14:15] <SolarisBoy> restart lightdm or your display manager k1l
[14:15] <SolarisBoy> or stop it -
[14:15] <yown> dr_willis: I shut down photrec before deleting anything
[14:15] <dr_willis> I thought it was alt-ctrl-sysq-k
[14:15] <SolarisBoy> or - its never letting the descriptors go - ...
[14:16] <SolarisBoy> but we wouldn't know as he hasn't checked lsof yet..
[14:16] <k1l> SolarisBoy: yes i know of the lightdm restart. but the shortcut was quite handy
[14:16] <SolarisBoy> also lsof with the app open on the pid would atleast say what it has open in general and maybe get an idea of where it is gettng restore files from in the fist place -
[14:16] <dr_willis> !dontzap
[14:16] <dr_willis> !nozap
[14:16] <dr_willis> Hmm. used to be a factoid on it
[14:17] <SolarisBoy> maybe it's caching them elsewhere and restroging them to your home as you bring the program up - but just restarting photorec over and over with posting no additional detail is fruitless
[14:17] <dsa> nickserv identify asdf737 marshall
[14:17] <SolarisBoy> kimphill: make a custom shortcut
[14:17] <SolarisBoy> oops
[14:17] <SolarisBoy> k1l: ^
[14:17] <k1l> dsa: i would change that pw :/
[14:17] <yown> SolarisBoy: well, tell me specifically what to type then
[14:18] <yown> and I dont keep bringing the program up
[14:18] <yown> I shut it down, and havent brought it back since
[14:18] <dsa> how i can turn off desktop and go in command line ?
[14:18] <MonkeyDust> dsa  ctrl alt F1
[14:18] <SolarisBoy> yown: bring up the program fnd the pid and run lsof -p PID (replace PID with the numbers which are the pid of photorec)
[14:18] <SolarisBoy> yown: other than that run sudo lsof in general to see if files are marked as (deleted)
[14:19] <SolarisBoy> yown: if you don't have lsof - install it
[14:19] <yown> I don't know anything about PID
[14:19] <^DEMOSS^> BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-38-generic root=UUID=8b46b9ba-53ab-4964-bd7b-9e4090748990 ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7
[14:19] <SolarisBoy> well use ps auxwww |grep photorec to get it?
[14:19] <^DEMOSS^> i need help. in loading process i can see initramfs console. if i wanna continue loading i must type exit command
[14:19] <SolarisBoy> the process id
[14:19] <yown> I wouldn't know what the numbers that are the pid of photorec
[14:19] <SolarisBoy> ok - nm then...
[14:20] <SolarisBoy> ill be in OT this is getting remedial
[14:20] <yeats> ^DEMOSS^: are you running Ubuntu?
[14:21] <^DEMOSS^> yes
[14:21] <alen> hi
[14:21] <alen> hi everyone i'm new *holds up spork*
[14:21] <klrr> hey guys i have Master unmuted and on highest volume, http://ideone.com/9tSZ4r drivers are running and im in audio group , the sound still dont work, what is the problem?
[14:21] <^DEMOSS^> yeats: my ubutu work, but in loading process i see initramfs console, wheree i write exit and my ubuntu continue booting normal
[14:22] <alen> demoss that's normal
[14:22] <alen> happens to me all the time
[14:22] <yown> SolarisBoy: It really shouldn't surprise you that lots of people wouldn't know how to find out the PID of programs
[14:22] <^DEMOSS^> before it i use update-initramfs -u
[14:23] <SolarisBoy> it doesn't at all
[14:23] <klrr> my sound doesnt work, any ideas what the problem might be? i got master channel unmuted and on highest volume in alsamixer, and all drivers seem to work ( http://ideone.com/9tSZ4r ) , any ideas ?
[14:24] <alen> just use pidof syslog -ng
[14:24] <alen> klrr, laptop or PC?
[14:24] <yown> "invalid options on command line!"
[14:24] <klrr> alen: PC
[14:25] <klrr> alen: do you know what the problem might be?
[14:25] <alen> when did you update drivers?
[14:25] <klrr> alen: it's a fresh install
[14:26] <alen> how do you have 2 audi devices installed? both AMD and Nvidia? o_O
[14:27] <yown> That has to cause conflict, and I mean the kind with sharp weapons...
[14:27] <klrr> alen: very easy, just get a nvidia graphics card and you have that too
[14:27] <klrr> how do i make that only one is in use then?
[14:28] <SolarisBoy> yown: did you see the thing about 'ps auxwwww|photorec' at all? thats how to gather a pid - or one way if you only have a slight idea of what the program name may be - anyway lsof (list open files) would do two things for you - running it like 1) sudo lsof .. is going to as expected show all *open* files 2) lsof -p PID is going to show the files opened by PID (your app) which is kind of what you want to know when your saying to self 
[14:28] <klrr> alen: may it cause a conflict with two sound drivers running? how do i solve it?
[14:28] <SolarisBoy> but i was trying to avoid that paragraph by letting you run the commands and derive your own answers.
[14:29] <yown> SolarisBoy:  OK it is doing something, what?
[14:30] <Pessimist> Is anyone using adobe flash player here? If so, could you go to youtube and right click then "show video info" and check if the video rendering/video decoding is accelerated?
[14:30] <yown> No I didn't see that command btw
[14:31] <dr_willis> Pessimist:  there can be video issues with hardware  accelleration in flash on some drivers/chipsets
[14:32] <yown> SolarisBoy: it is asking what partition type I am using, but not letting me select one, so stuck
[14:33] <Pessimist> dr_willis: maybe you know the situation on nvidia gpus with the closed source drivers?
[14:33] <dr_willis> Pessimist:  it can depens on the exact card.
[14:33] <dr_willis> and drivers.
[14:33] <dr_willis> Pessimist:  i had the Smurf-look bug here with acceleration enabled.
[14:35] <rohan> как подружить Nvidia optimu 640M в 12.10?
[14:35] <rohan> как подружить Nvidia optimus 640M на ноуте в 12.10?
[14:36] <alen> install vodka
[14:37] <rohan> когда я запускаю optirun <...> экран тухнет
[14:38] <dmbaturin> rohan: English, moth... Sorry. Join #ubuntu-ru
[14:38] <alen> lmao
 Do yoo spig engleesh?
[14:40] <alen> he said go to #ubuntu-ru
[14:40] <alen> for russian supports
[14:40] <meet> what are some good screencast maker for ubuntu?
[14:40] <klrr> buntu developers has micro penises
[14:40] <alen> l0l
 my have NVIDIA OPTIMUS 640M on
[14:40] <dmbaturin> meet: recordmydesktop (as good as on any other distro).
[14:41] <DJones> klrr: Stop that
[14:41] <alen> use fraps
[14:41] <alen> fraps is godtier, but if you just need shitty job done then hypercam will do as well
[14:42] <MasterOfDisaster> !ru > rohan
[14:42] <mkk_> i have 10 gb partition for /root, and it's full. /usr is over 5gb. /usr/lib is over 2gb. how can i fix it? thanks
[14:42] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[14:42] <klrr> DJones: so you are offended, it's true then? :P
[14:43] <DJones> !coc | klrr
[14:43] <bekks> mkk_: You have to delete unused files.
[14:43] <klrr> DJones hi
[14:43] <yeats> mkk_: you'll definitely want a larger partition if possible
[14:43] <alen> !coc
[14:44] <alen> useing 30 gb partition and doing fine, just don't bloat unnecessarily
[14:44] <savagecroc> is there anyway to force an ACL on a file when it is "mv" into a directory?
[14:44] <yeats> alen: be sure to read that yourself (re: your "install vodka" comment)
[14:44] <alen> lel i was jokes ._.
[14:44] <mkk_> yeats: 10gb should be large enough under normal conditions, am i wrong?
[14:45] <yeats> mkk_: it's pretty small for what I would consider "normal use", but that means different things for different people
[14:46] <dr_willis> mkk_:  id consider 10gb to be rather tiny..
[14:46] <BluesKaj> mkk_, 10G doesn't leave much "headroom"
[14:46] <savagecroc> what's the recommended filesystem for running DBs on?
[14:46] <dr_willis> mkk_:  id say 20gb at a min.
[14:46] <k1l> mkk_: i have my / on 10Gb and im getting into trouble sometimes (latex is killing my diskspace). i think 15GB fpor / should be recommended
[14:46] <dr_willis> ive filled up 20gb / with tmp files and stuff
[14:46] <alen> just use 2 flashdrives or external HDD
[14:46] <rohan> Russia profi по 12.10 сюда
[14:46] <alen> if you need that much
[14:46] <mkk_> dr_willis: it's better i reinstall the system then?
[14:46] <alen> rohan moras da ides na #ubuntu-ru
[14:47] <dr_willis> mkk_:  its up to you. I dont know what you are doing. or your hd space.
[14:47] <k1l> mkk_: no need for reinstall. you can enlarge the partitions
[14:47] <dr_willis> mkk_:  ive had the apt cache get over 2gb befor
[14:47] <dr_willis> apt-get clean and apt-get autoremove may clear out a lot of space
 i cenot na #ununtu-ru
[14:48] <mkk_> k1l: i'll try it, thanks
[14:48] <rohan> help
[14:48] <nearst> reinstall will solve most of your problem :D
[14:48] <yourimym1> hello is Kubuntu Plasma Desktop/Netbook system installs full kde DE or just the plasma ?
[14:48] <rohan> help in #ubuntu-ru
[14:49] <dr_willis> yourimym1:  kde plasma is the window manager i thought..  Kubuntu Installs the full kde desktop wich includes plasma
[14:51] <yourimym1> dr_willis: i use unity and selected (Kubuntu Plasma Desktop/Netbook) from software center , i want to install plasma desktop for my pc only
[14:51] <rohan> help NVIDIA GEFORCE GT 640M
[14:52] <k1l> rohan: what ubuntu is in use? which driver did you install? where does the driver come from?
[14:53] <Discordian93> hi
[14:53] <BluesKaj> mkk_, I maintain / at 11G by doing autoclean and autoremove after updates/upgrades atm it's only 6.7G used
[14:53] <Discordian93> can someone tell me how to make a small script to be able to reuse a command I intend to use frequently?
[14:54] <dr_willis> #!/bin/bash
[14:54] <dr_willis> thecommand
[14:54] <dr_willis> save to foo.sh
[14:55] <Discordian93> where is it saved?
[14:55] <dr_willis> where you tell it to
[14:55] <dr_willis> put it in  /home/ysername/bin
[14:56] <Discordian93> I've typed #!/bin/bash
[14:56] <Discordian93> now what?
[14:56] <dr_willis> i showed the 2 lines to put in a file...
[14:56] <Sgt_Shultz> magic spells free, linux commands extra ....
[14:56] <dr_willis> !abs
[14:57] <Discordian93> but typing #!bin/bash didn't do anything
[14:57] <k1l> !pm | rohan
[14:57] <escott> Discordian93, put your commands. save the file. mark it executable with chmod +x
[14:57] <dr_willis> Discordian93:  it goes IN A FILE
[14:57] <Discordian93> oh, ok
[14:57] <dr_willis> !abs | Discordian93  read up
[14:59] <Sgt_Shultz> !offtopic
[15:00] <Discordian93> okay, got it
[15:00] <Discordian93> thanks for the help, i've never done any bash scripting before, I'm a total noob with programming
[15:01] <rohan> I need to use a video card distkretnuyu
[15:02] <rickb> hey. is it possible to shrink the size of an LUKS lvm partition to create free space on the physical disk?
[15:02] <rohan> I don `t know how to go irc me at #ubuntu-ru
[15:03] <dmbaturin> rohan: /join #ubuntu-ru
[15:04] <louisdk> Hi. I've planned to switch to ssh keys for my home linux based systems. My question is do I need to create one key for each host or can I just copy the one I've created?
[15:05] <rickb> louisdk: you can reuse private keys
[15:05] <rickb> louisdk: just ssh-keygen to generate the key
[15:06] <rohan>  why there's nobody at #ubuntu-ru?
[15:06]  * adam|afk is now away: away from keyboard
[15:07] <W|cKeD> i think i just ruined my beautiful 10.04 lts distro :'(
[15:07] <bekks> rohan: There are 50 people in that channel.
[15:07] <Sgt_Shultz> !offtopic rohan
[15:08] <aragorn4> Question: Is it possible to reinstall Ubuntu in an encrypted partition?
[15:09] <rohan> but on #ubuntu-ru I there
[15:10] <icer> hi,all
[15:10] <rohan> Naryan-Mar is the Ubuntu help?
[15:11] <yourimym1> what is LLVMpipe look
[15:12] <Sgt_Shultz> what is a endoscope /
[15:12] <richrockstar> bend over ill show you
[15:13] <yourimym1> bended over already
[15:16] <rohan> help enable dikretnuyu card in 12.10 (NVIDIA GEFORCE 640M) OPTIMUS
[15:16] <Sgt_Shultz> rohan, t did google say ?wha
[15:16] <Sgt_Shultz> say ?
[15:17] <cobra-the-joker> Hey there every one ... i just installed ubuntu 12.10 and my display in "Displays" application doesnt seem to have the correct resolution for my screen ... any way to setup it manually perhaps ?
 Give the link
[15:20] <Snake2k> cobra-the-joker -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1122655
[15:20] <Sgt_Shultz> google of "linux 12.10 (NVIDIA GEFORCE 640M) OPTIMUS" answer questions
[15:21] <Styler2go> Hello. I want to set up a cronjob (execute a tar command), would osmeone have time to help me?
 Nitsche ponel i am from is Russia
[15:23] <abhinav> I'm getting this error while plugging in external hard disk  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5561869/   , here is the output of  sudo fdisk -l   http://paste.ubuntu.com/5561871/     how should I fix it
[15:24] <llutz> Styler2go: and your issue is? read "man 5 crontab" about syntax, use "crontab -e" to edit your crontab, add your command, done. make sure to setup PATH for cron or use full pathes when calling binaries/scripts
[15:24] <bekks> abhinav: The first error tells you what to do.
[15:25] <DJHenjin_> ok, so i have a user 'example' that needs access to read /proc/net/dev and he cannot, any suggestions?
[15:25] <Styler2go> i am not that good at linux commands but i will give it a try
[15:25] <Trash_> hi guys
[15:26] <llutz> DJHenjin_: "ls -l  /proc/net/dev " isn't that file root:root 444?
[15:26] <DJHenjin_> llutz ls -l /proc/net/dev -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 feb 24... /proc/net/dev
[15:27] <llutz> DJHenjin_: so what's your problem then?
[15:27] <DJHenjin_> user 'example' cannot access the file
[15:27] <bekks> DJHenjin_: The file has world read permissions set.
[15:27] <llutz> DJHenjin_: he should
[15:28] <llutz> DJHenjin_: the error he gets is waht?
[15:28] <llutz> what*
[15:28] <DJHenjin_> llutz: as user 'example' nano /proc/net/dev blank file
[15:28] <DJHenjin_> ls -l /proc/net/dev: no such file or directory
[15:29] <llutz> DJHenjin_: you don't use an editor for that, cat /proc/net/dev
[15:29] <DJHenjin_> cat: /proc/net/dev: No such file or directory
[15:30] <DJHenjin_> llutz: see my issue?
[15:30] <llutz> DJHenjin_: odd, works fine here (debian + ubuntu)
[15:31] <DJHenjin_> if i cd /proc/net i cannot ls
[15:31] <SolarisBoy> DJHenjin_: whats the output of your uname -a?
[15:31] <SolarisBoy> DJHenjin_: whats the output of 'ls -ald /proc/net'
[15:32] <DJHenjin_> Linux ns5001352.ip-192-95-32.net 3.2.13-grsec-xxxx-grs-ipv6-64 #1 SMP Thu Mar 29 09:48:59 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[15:32] <SolarisBoy> yea thats what i thought
[15:32] <DJHenjin_> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 Feb 24 08:32 /proc/net -> self/net
[15:32] <SolarisBoy> thats related to grsec stuff and it may have to do with your kernel
[15:32] <SolarisBoy> which doesn't seem to be a standard kernel shipped with ubuntu
[15:33] <SolarisBoy> did you compile that kernel your self?
[15:33] <llutz> some kind of preconfigured vps?
[15:33] <DJHenjin_> no its the kernal that my DC installs into all linux systems so they have a backdoor
[15:33] <SolarisBoy> they are doing security on the /proc file system
[15:33] <yourimym1> system setting dosen't open here , it seems i've disabled it by bootup manger or something how to get it back open ?
[15:34] <SolarisBoy> so thats not going to work for you without altering the kernel or the setting the kernel is running under afaik which you may/may not have access to do.
[15:34] <DJHenjin_> how can i get rid of their kernal without reinstalling all my software
[15:34] <SolarisBoy> not sure you need to follow up with them and their procedures
[15:35] <dr_willis> Your 'DC' ?
[15:35] <SolarisBoy> see - if it's a VPS i can see why they dont want you seeing things like that
[15:35] <DJHenjin_> datacenter dr_willis
[15:35] <Sgt_Shultz> rohan, i am sorry u have 2 tell u 2 use google to translate, but u r russian, as u say, kick arse people in hardship, & nazis killing
[15:35] <DJHenjin_> SolarisBoy: it is a dedicated server, not a VPS
[15:35] <dr_willis> If its a company pc.. shouldent you be using the company IT support?
[15:35] <SolarisBoy> if it's dedicated thats different
[15:35] <OerHeks> DJHenjin_, ls -ald /proc/net  OR ls -ald /proc/net/  ?
[15:35] <bekks> DJHenjin_: Then install whatever kernel you want.
[15:35] <SolarisBoy> he tried
[15:35] <SolarisBoy> it's secured
[15:36] <SolarisBoy> yea - install a new kernel and boot into that then if you have access (root)
[15:36] <DJHenjin_> OerHeks: /proc/net
[15:36] <DJHenjin_> /proc/net/ shows dr-xr-xr-x 2 zabbix zabbix 0 /proc/net
[15:36] <SolarisBoy> they used a option called "Restrict /proc to user only"
[15:36] <SolarisBoy> which is why you see self in that folder
[15:37] <SolarisBoy> install a new kernel.
[15:37] <DJHenjin_> how hard is that?
[15:37] <SolarisBoy> sudo apt-cache search linux-image i believe
[15:37] <SolarisBoy> find one and apt-get install it should be it
[15:38] <SolarisBoy> ofcourse - you need to make grub use it if you dont have console access - etc
[15:38] <T_oink> Are there in Linux any special bits set for hardlinks and how to find them (ln), I forget where i placed them, it's easy to see the symbolic, but I don't see the link with hardlinks...
[15:38] <Sgt_Shultz> custom kernal = custom hardware or/ custom software
[15:38] <DJHenjin_> how hard is it to modify grub through ssh?
[15:38] <SolarisBoy> T_oink: use find -xdev -samefile
[15:39] <bekks> Sgt_Shultz: custom kernel == kernel from kernel.org with all the options you modified to your needs.
[15:39] <dr_willis> DJHenjin_:   you edit the config files and rerun sudo update-grub
[15:39] <SolarisBoy> T_oink: xdev to stay on device as hard links dont traverse seperate devices and -samefile will then pull hard links found
[15:39] <Sgt_Shultz> thanks bekks
[15:40] <yourimym1> hi , how to re-enable system setting ??
[15:40] <DJHenjin_> dr_willis: yeah, i tend not to screw around with grub
[15:41] <DJHenjin_> of course they put their kernal as 06 before the one i just installed which i believe is 10
[15:42] <DJHenjin_> can i just delete thei 06_OVHkernal and be done with it?
[15:42] <yourimym1> dr_willis: it seems i've disabled it accidentally  from bootup manager , how to re-enable system setting
[15:42] <bekks> DJHenjin_: First, you have to install another kernel.
[15:42] <SolarisBoy> yeps
[15:43] <DJHenjin_> i did apt-get install linux-image-server  already
[15:43] <SolarisBoy> that will install it - but i dont believe it sets the grub to boot it by default
[15:43] <SolarisBoy> which you need remotely
[15:44] <DJHenjin_> contents of grub.d 00_header  05_debian_theme  06_OVHkernel  10_linux  20_linux_xen  30_os-prober  30_uefi-firmware  40_custom  41_custom
[15:44] <SolarisBoy> i do believe what it did is add an entry though to select that kernel at grub boot
[15:44] <SolarisBoy> so you want to change the DEFAULT variable in grub.cfg and update grub
[15:44] <SolarisBoy> afaik
[15:44] <yourimym1> is sudo apt-get install gnome-control-center , will get my system setting to open after ?
[15:44] <Sgt_Shultz> i am aiming 4 little skinney k (128k,ardrone,mine 32 gb storage external, but a linux core
[15:46] <SolarisBoy> DJHenjin_: all those files will remain as are - you should look at /etc/default/grub and the GRUB_DEFAULT value
[15:46] <COLORS> Hello
[15:47] <COLORS> Anyone need help>?
[15:47] <Sgt_Shultz> DSL Linux was a option, but now i put ubuntu on my sony xperia s ....
[15:47] <DJHenjin_> GRUB_DEFAULT=0
[15:47] <SolarisBoy> DJHenjin_: it is 0 based so the first entry is 0 - and so forth - you should find the entry which was added , and adjust it to the proper value then do sudo update-grub. however if you do *not* have an entry auto added you will need to append one for the new kernel and then do the variable adjust and update-grub
[15:47] <SolarisBoy> DJHenjin_: right which is the defaults - default (as redundant as that sounds) so when you add kernels and the post install steps update the grub.cfg - it appends it to the end of the file so you need to adjust it to the proper index of the entry
[15:48] <SolarisBoy> which i won't know IF you have 2 kernels (and no recovery entry etc) then it could be 1 for you.. but you should confirm it
[15:48] <dr_willis> yourimym1:  i dont even know how you would disable 'system settings' with the bootup manager..  you can run it from a terminal and look for error messages. and no i dont know what the command is called.
[15:49] <SolarisBoy> yourimym1: have you tried to re-enable whatever you disabled in BUM?
[15:49] <yourimym1> sudo apt-get install gnome-control-center helped me , i think i've unistalled it from software center
[15:49] <SolarisBoy> hm
[15:50] <SolarisBoy> Sgt_Shultz: tinycore or tinycore64 - they have minicore also if you want a smaller one
[15:50] <DJHenjin_> yeah, i cant tell which was newly added, if any
[15:50] <DJHenjin_> i suck at this linux suff
[15:50] <DJHenjin_> stuff
[15:50] <SolarisBoy> it's actually a initramfs
[15:50] <yourimym1> does any one have experience with unity ?
[15:50]  * DJHenjin_ goes into the corner and crys
[15:51] <SolarisBoy> DJHenjin_: awww dont worry youll be ok
[15:51] <DJHenjin_> im such a noob
[15:51] <Sgt_Shultz> thaks SolarisBoy , yes, only what i need, is what i need
[15:51] <SolarisBoy> DJHenjin_: maybe you can post your grub config and someone can help =)
[15:51] <dr_willis> yourimym1:  if you just reinstalled it.. then its installed.
[15:51] <SolarisBoy> DJHenjin_: post it to pastebin ofcourse =)
[15:51] <DJHenjin_> SolarisBoy: sounds lika an excellent idea, 1 sec
[15:51] <DJHenjin_> SolarisBoy:  i know that XD
[15:51] <yourimym1> dr_willis: sudo apt-get install gnome-control-center helped already
[15:52] <SolarisBoy> Sgt_Shultz: so you can't use anything other than DSL?
[15:53] <DJHenjin_> grub.cfg coming up http://pastebin.com/g4GybcFg
[15:54] <nearst> why grub.cfg?
[15:54] <W|cKeD> i tried to check my disk analyzer everything's empty in my folders :( sizes are 0 i ruined my pretty 10.04 distro any chance of getting it back to work? booting in normal will direct me to tty2 only console mode but recovery and then try to type startx i can get a gui working but apps ain't running like network manager wicd mostly all not working pls help
[15:54] <DJHenjin_> not sure if i even chose a good kernal to install
[15:54] <SolarisBoy> DJHenjin_: this is yours: menuentry 'Ubuntu, with Linux 3.2.0-38-generic'
[15:54] <SolarisBoy> DJHenjin_: rather thats the one you want to select -
[15:55] <SolarisBoy> seems like you want GRUB_DEFAULT=1
[15:55] <DJHenjin_> and if i screw something up?
[15:55] <nearst> W|cKeD, if u using wicd, remove network-manager if not. ure experiencing network issue :P
[15:55] <SolarisBoy> then you boot into a non working kernel and call your provider and have them console it and select 0 again or you setup the fall back stuff which is possible
[15:55] <T_oink> SolarisBoy, Hey thanks found my backup file again :-)
[15:56] <SolarisBoy> T_oink: your welcome - i thought you didn't see it lol
[15:56] <iKillCypher> iKillCypher> mkdir -p ~/android/system/.repo/local_manifests
[15:56] <iKillCypher> <iKillCypher> there isnt a .repo in my system file ?
[15:56] <DJHenjin_> so GRUB_DEFAULT=1 then apt grub update then reboot
[15:56] <iKillCypher> anyone ?
[15:56] <T_oink> SolarisBoy, was away for a bit, getting something to drink.
[15:56] <Sgt_Shultz> no ardrone has own OS, but, I am frankienstiening it, mine has 45 batt time, rc (2.5 km r) control 2 pc laptop, flight time, but need to check out better hacking in2 3 macca's wifi
[15:56] <SolarisBoy> DJHenjin_: GRUB_DEFAULT=1 (in the file /etc/default/grub) and then sudo update-grub
[15:57] <dr_willis> iKillCypher:  system file? You mean your users home directory?
[15:57] <SolarisBoy> Sgt_Shultz: oh wow ok sounds intense
[15:57] <iKillCypher> dr_willis, I meant
[15:57] <iKillCypher> mkdir -p ~/android/system/.repo/local_manifests
[15:57] <iKillCypher> it is making a new folder right ?
[15:57] <dr_willis> iKillCypher:  yes.  should be
[15:58] <Sgt_Shultz> I Know Nothing as well ....
[15:58] <DJHenjin_> did the update-grub "No volume groups found" after it did the linux images
[15:58] <DJHenjin_> that ok?
[15:58] <SolarisBoy> uhhh i guess not sure how your system is configured - do you use lvm?
[15:58] <DJHenjin_> because i am on irssi on that server and i want to make sure its right before i reboot the server
[15:59] <SolarisBoy> anyway being that your remote - you may be interested in looking into a grub fallback selection
[15:59] <nearst> agree.
[15:59] <DJHenjin_> lvm? not that i am aware of, just 3 raid 1 arrays mounted to various points
[15:59] <iKillCypher> well it is hidden
[15:59] <yourimym1> i think Nautilus file manager run slow , is there a way to replace it with another lite-filemanager ?
[16:00] <iKillCypher> now I need to make a xml inside it
[16:00] <nearst> yourimym1, thunar
[16:00] <SolarisBoy> DJHenjin_: sudo vgs -v provides any output?
[16:00] <iKillCypher> create ~/android/system/.repo/local_manifests/teamhacksung.xml using this content:
[16:00] <Nach0z> yourimym1: you could uninstall nautilus and install thunar
[16:00] <dr_willis> yourimym1:  just install and run another file manager.. ive not found nautilus slow
[16:00] <dr_willis> i dont reccomend uninstalling nautilus
[16:00] <DJHenjin_> no volume groups found
[16:00] <georg87> anybody who knows what this means?
[16:00] <georg87> mkdir --zfk --ydsd /mesh/zaturo/.grep/local
[16:00] <SolarisBoy> cool then
[16:00] <SolarisBoy> unless you have some unimported ones then nm that message
[16:01] <DJHenjin_> ok, so i should be good to reboot, hopefully safely without a fallback?
[16:01] <yourimym1> dr_willis: thx alot
[16:01] <DJHenjin_> thankfully i didnt disable their backdoors yet
[16:01] <SolarisBoy> DJHenjin_: no if you dont have a fall back and it doesn't work youll be on the phone with your service provider but if you set the default you'll have atleast an auto way back into the first kernel
[16:01] <yourimym1> is Preload app recommended or it may contain risk for my system ?
[16:02] <DJHenjin_> ok so how do i go about doing that, sorry total nub here
[16:02] <caz> Hi
[16:02] <nearst> preload improve pc reaction to u
[16:02] <SolarisBoy> yep - granted that it's a little over kill - for now i think it's out of scope
[16:02] <dr_willis> i thought preload was allready enabled by defailt
[16:03] <SolarisBoy> DJHenjin_: one question for you - do you have a simple way to open tickets and communicate with the admins at your SP?
[16:03] <DJHenjin_> 24/7 support
[16:03] <DJHenjin_> phone call away
[16:03] <yourimym1> dr_willis: how to if it already enabled by default in 12.10
[16:03] <SolarisBoy> alright then just reboot - if you run into problems sorry - its kinda normal when dealing with kernels remotely - yes fall back is possible but the scripting is kinda OT for now.
[16:03] <SolarisBoy> atleast for me it is =)
[16:03] <yourimym1> dr_willis: moataz@moataz-pc:~$ preload
[16:03] <yourimym1> The program 'preload' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
[16:03] <yourimym1> sudo apt-get install preload
[16:04] <SolarisBoy> make sure you did the update-grub though
[16:04] <dr_willis> yourimym1:  i wouldent even be worrying about it.
[16:04] <DJHenjin_> alright, rebooting then, if i have issues i have their number
[16:04] <dr_willis> !info preload
[16:04] <SolarisBoy> cool beans if not you'll be in a standard kernel and able to see that file /proc/net/dev
[16:05] <SolarisBoy> ill brb -
[16:06] <yourimym1> dr_willis: http://pastebin.com/dSwyiCTD
[16:08] <Sgt_Shultz> thank u again SolarisBoy very usefull  4 that tiny core info ,,,
[16:08] <iKillCypher> how do I view a hidden folder
[16:08] <iKillCypher> let say drwxrwxr-x   7 ikillcypher ikillcypher  4096 Feb 25 00:02 .repo
[16:08] <iKillCypher> is hidden and I want to view it
[16:08] <SolarisBoy> sure thing - yw Sgt_Shultz
[16:08] <llutz> iKillCypher: ls -la folder
[16:08] <OerHeks> ctrl + h (idden)
[16:08] <bekks> iKillCypher: cd into it.
[16:08] <dr_willis> iKillCypher:  or just cd into it. ;)
[16:09] <iKillCypher> what about deleting everything inside ?
[16:09] <dr_willis> iKillCypher:  same as if it wasent hidden
[16:09] <bekks> iKillCypher: No difference to other folders.
[16:09] <dr_willis> rm -rf foo
[16:10] <llutz> iKillCypher: http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/commands.htm
[16:10] <dr_willis> !bash
[16:10] <jbenskin1> hello how do you install system76 support
[16:10] <jbenskin1> hello how do you install system76 support?
[16:10] <bekks> jbenskin1: Whats that?
[16:10] <nearst> jbenskin1, it make me shock
[16:10] <dr_willis> jbenskin1:  id hope their support web site gibves info on how to install it.. if its a .deb    sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[16:11] <jbenskin1> thanks!
[16:11] <DJHenjin_> well, im back
[16:12] <nearst> aw. i thought system76 is part of arch
[16:12] <zimzum_> hi peeps is there a sound eq in software, i have bad sound, {music}
[16:12] <Espen_> Can somebody help me? I posted a bug on launchpad, and i keep getting questions i don't know how to answer.
[16:12] <satellit_e> https://www.system76.com/support/  ?
[16:13] <BluesKaj> zimzum_, describe , "bad sound"
[16:13] <zimzum_> no equalization, sound flat
[16:13] <BluesKaj> eq doesn't help bad sound
[16:13] <nearst> not much bass?
[16:13] <zimzum_> that too
[16:14] <zimzum_> sounds like MUD
[16:14] <nearst> dubstep then
[16:14] <Espen_> Can somebody help me? I posted a bug on launchpad, and i keep getting questions i don't know how to answer. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1132396
[16:14] <BluesKaj> what kind of sound system , speakers etc , zimzum_?
[16:14] <yourimym1> !info kde
[16:15] <BluesKaj> !kde
[16:15] <BluesKaj> yourimym1,^
[16:15] <zimzum_> just some sony headphones plug into 20w sony labtop sp.
[16:16] <zimzum_> in my old windows7, realtek had a eq, i can't find anythind of that sort
[16:16] <BluesKaj> !equalizer
[16:16] <Sgt_Shultz> yeah windows did suck, didn't it ?
[16:17] <zimzum_> YES!! important peice of the puzzle
[16:17] <dr_willis> i saw a pulse audio system equalizer ages ago on webupd8 or omgubuntu web sites. but not sure how up to date it is.
[16:17] <ikonia> Sgt_Shultz: please don't
[16:17] <zimzum_> haha window sucks
[16:17] <BluesKaj> isn't there an alsa equalizer for gnome
[16:17] <DJHenjin_> who was it helping me before
[16:17] <DJHenjin_> SolarisBoy: was it you?
[16:18] <zimzum_> so i plug it in but, but i can't find the interface
[16:18] <BluesKaj> we don't need to bash windows gents
[16:18] <zimzum_> VLC has eq
[16:18] <zimzum_> which make a credible diff.
[16:18] <Sgt_Shultz> vlc rules ...
[16:19] <zimzum_> but now can't migrate into say youtube
[16:19] <Sgt_Shultz> cow extrcrament ..
[16:19] <zimzum_> ??
[16:20] <zimzum_> do you mean cow excretment??  lol
[16:20] <llutz> Sgt_Shultz: please stop your random offtopic-comments here and keep to support
[16:20] <dr_willis> use a youtube downloader extension. download the video. play in vlc
[16:20] <georg87> just want to spam some, lolz mohaha keeeeeee
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[16:20] <FloodBot1> georg87: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:21] <zimzum_> yea maybe but then all them vids in library??
[16:21] <BluesKaj> zimzum_,look in your software center and type equalizer in the searchbox
[16:21] <dr_willis> zimzum_:  ive gathered quite a few show via downloading from youtube.
[16:21] <maki_> hi, how can I make my laptop save files to the hard drive in my desktop by default (both are using ubuntu)
[16:21] <xsl> hello all, i cannot find the /sys/block/md0/md/stripe_cache_size file .. is this been removed ? how will i know the stripe cache size of my mdadm device?
[16:22] <k1l> !ot > Sgt_Shultz
[16:22] <dr_willis> maki_:  you could set up sshfs. or soome how share a folder on pc1. then save from pc2 into the mounted sshfs or share
[16:22] <nearst> aw raid fan
[16:22] <zimzum_> right on
[16:22] <bekks> xsl: cat /proc/mdstat or similar.
[16:22] <DJHenjin_> SolarisBoy: was it you who helped me?
[16:22] <xsl> bekks that gives me the status of mdadm
[16:22] <dr_willis> maki_:  you going to be doing this a lot? or just a few times
[16:22] <SolarisBoy> sure whats up DJHenjin_ ?
[16:23] <DJHenjin_> thank you soo much, you have no idea how much you helped me
[16:23] <SolarisBoy> no worries dude - yw =)
[16:23] <nearst> @}=---
[16:23] <maki_> dr_willis: a lot
[16:24] <DJHenjin_> i must part now though, thanks again
[16:24] <SolarisBoy> yw DJHenjin_
[16:24] <SolarisBoy> later!
[16:25] <dr_willis> maki_:  try out sshfs. its easy to get going.. see if it works for you. if so you can automate the mountin gof the remote system at login
[16:25] <maki_> thank you
[16:25] <dr_willis> maki_:  samba and nfs are other ways.. or ftp..
[16:25] <nearst> filezilla ?
[16:27] <zimzum_> HMMM!!
[16:27] <Espen_> anyone mind helping me answering a question at a bug report? "do you mean PCM softvol affect the volume of digital out when IEC958 Default PCM is on ?"
[16:27] <Espen_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1132396
[16:28] <flisher> Why
[16:29] <evon> how do i get ubuntu 12.04 to play DVDs? I've already installed the restricted-extras
[16:29] <zimzum_> can we use gwibber for irc
[16:29] <zimzum_> ??
[16:30] <jbenskin1> Does Ubuntu have a fan speed option ?
[16:31] <rootusercyclone> Not out of the box I don't think
[16:31] <jbenskin1> any software available for the fan speed?
[16:31] <NFisher> HI all! How to manually execute/mount rules in /etc/fstab after boot?
[16:32] <MrKaliman> NFisher, sudo mount -a
[16:32] <NFisher> MrKaliman, did that,m wouldnt do
[16:32] <rootusercyclone> try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/22108/how-to-control-fan-speed
[16:32] <MrKaliman> NFisher, any error messages ?
[16:33] <NFisher> MrKaliman, nope
[16:33] <NFisher> MrKaliman, i had some boot problems/ hdd hardware issues, could be because of the unasual boot
[16:33] <MrKaliman> NFisher, provide the line in fstab that you created (the one that should mount your volume)
[16:35] <NFisher> MrKaliman, well i guess i just made a mistake, sorry, the hdds i wanted to be available for mounting are not mentioned in fstab
[16:36] <evon> Ok i got it working http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1979010
[16:36] <kristiyan> Hello, I want to make bootable ISO from USB stick which is already bootable with installed GRUB2. The USB stick holds several Ubuntu distributions but I don't know what to use (dd or mkisofs) and which options. Please help if it's possible. Thanks in advance!
[16:36] <MrKaliman> NFisher, ok. Good luck
[16:36] <NFisher> they usually appear in nautilus, and i was able to click-mount them, now they are not listed
[16:38] <NFisher> MrKaliman, well, thx!
[16:41] <SolarisBoy> kristiyan: did you install the multi distros to the usb stick manually? i was interested in doing something similar
[16:46] <kristiyan> SolarisBoy: Actually I installed GRUB2 and everything is loaded from ISOs
[16:46] <SolarisBoy> got it
[16:46] <prashant_123456> cannot write to removable drive its a read-only filesystem any solutions using ubuntu 12.04
[16:47] <wdp> Is there some channel to talk to an ubuntu dev? preferably one who's responsible/working on the kernel-stuff in ubuntu?
[16:47] <kristiyan> SolarisBoy: But I can't figure it out how to make ISO because now it runs only from USB stick and I want to burn it a DVD disc
[16:48] <kristiyan> prashant_123456: Mount it with rw permissions
[16:48] <prashant_123456> kristiyan, how to do it please tell me
[16:49] <k1l> wdp: #ubuntu-devel , but see the topic and if its a bug have the filed bugs from launchpad
[16:49] <TehAndrewRyan> Hi, I've figured out how to send a command to a screen (it shows up in the screen window when I attach it) but it doesn't execute the command, because it requires me to press enter. How do I send an enter stroke to the screen session? I need it to be automated
[16:49] <SolarisBoy> you should find out the file system and why it's ro first - but you could usuaully sudo mount -o remount,rw /mountpoint prashant_123456
[16:50] <wdp> k1l, I'll take a look. I wrote to the usb-input maillinglist regarding an usb keyboard which is not working in linux. The fix to get it working is to change an integer in one of the source files from 12k to 64k. Gaming keyboards like the one I got will work in linux only WITH this change applied.
[16:50] <captainlinux> Guys after clean install of 12.10 my webcam works fine. After installing 278 Updates it stops working... Just getting black picture in skype and cheese but the cam indicator led is flashing. What could have caused the problem?
[16:51] <wdp> k1l, now, I was wondering if there are chances that a dev in ubuntu would add that change so I wouldn't need to recompile my kernel on every kernel update.
[16:52] <wdp> k1l, since this applied to _every_ linux distribution (its a kernel issue) it's not an ubuntu bug.
[16:52] <wdp> s/applied/applies
[16:52] <prashant_123456> SolarisBoy, no its not working
[16:52] <kristiyan> prashant_123456: you can mount it via /etc/fstab at boot time or with mount -o just like SolarisBoy said
[16:53] <prashant_123456> KrisKo, above command not worked for me
[16:53] <Andre_designer> hello who can help me
[16:53] <W|cKeD> how to exec restoreperms.sh? thanx
[16:53] <wdp> Andre_designer, without a question? nobody.
[16:53] <k1l> wdp: usually the way is to file a bug on launchpad and put the solution into it.
[16:54] <wdp> i see.
[16:54] <k1l> file it against the linux-image and add the solution into it. so the maintainers will see it and it will be logged into the system
[16:54] <SolarisBoy> prashant_123456: that can indicate that the FS is dirty or not able to be set rw also you should look for errors add -v
[16:54] <prashant_123456> kristiyan, how to list the parameters of a filesystem that is to know where it is readonly
[16:55] <kristiyan> prashant_123456: what are you trying to mount (hdd, usb stick, phone ?)
[16:56] <prashant_123456> usb stick kristiyan
[16:56] <captainlinux> Guys after clean install of 12.10 my webcam works fine. After installing 278 Updates it stops working... Just getting black picture in skype and cheese but the cam indicator led is flashing. What could have caused the problem?
[16:57] <prashant_123456> any way to see permissions on filesystem ?
[16:57] <prashant_123456> kristiyan,
[16:57] <jaw> 12.10 breaks on kernel upgrade, can only go to grub2 shell.. does anyone know how to boot using that?
[16:57] <jaw> (UEFI computer)
[16:58] <kristiyan> prashant_123456: ok I'm mounting mine in 12.04.2 with mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/USB (but sdb1 is the partition, /mnt/USB is the folder where you want to mount) and it gives the default mounting options
[16:59] <kristiyan> prashant_123456: it should pop up by default in nautilus but I don't know why you try to mount it via terminal, perhaps with educational purpose
[16:59] <Nvveen> Hi all, ever since an update a few weeks ago, Unity won't work properly anymore, as the bars disappear after login. Other DEs work and hardware acceleration still works, but even after removing all user config files, it still won't work
[16:59] <prashant_123456> kristiyan, in nautilus i cannot write data in usb stick
[16:59] <Nvveen> I've tried Googling, but to no avail, anyone know how I can reset Unity to default after-installation settings so it might work again?
[16:59] <prashant_123456> kristiyan, so terminal is the best way to troubleshoot it
[16:59] <TehAndrewRyan> Hi, I've figured out how to send a command to a screen (it shows up in the screen window when I attach it) but it doesn't execute the command, because it requires me to press enter. How do I send an enter stroke to the screen session?
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[17:01] <Nvveen> I really want to go back to Unity on Ubuntu, but it's been weeks since it worked and I'm at my wits end.
[17:01] <yeats> Nvveen: when you create a new user, do the problems happen for the new user?
[17:01] <Nvveen> yeats, yes
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[17:02] <Nvveen> yeats, even after enabling root-login in Lightdm and logging in as root the problem persists
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[17:02] <Andre_designer> after installing libreoffice via terminal i get the old version, after remove calc writer base draw via softwarecentre and remove the rest of the folders manually i try to install again via the terminal iget the follow error .Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. how can i fix this and install the latest version of libreoffice
[17:03] <kristiyan> prashant_123456: if your device is at /dev/sdb1 try : mount /dev/sdb1 /home/<your_user_name>/Desktop and refresh your desktop, (or better create a folder on the desktop and follow my example)
[17:03] <biloo> تعديل موعد انتخابات مصر ودعوات للمقاطعة
[17:03] <yeats> Andre_designer: you removed what folders manually?
[17:04] <biloo> oops
[17:04] <biloo> alimentation
[17:04] <Nvveen> Cinnamon works, which is what I've been using for the last couple of weeks, but no update or reinstall fixed this problem and because I did a load of updates at once, it's rather impossible to troubleshoot which update caused the breakage.
[17:04] <Andre_designer> yes, at the end when the upgrade not worked
[17:04] <biloo> école
[17:04] <yeats> Andre_designer: *which* folders?
[17:04] <tongcx> hi guys, i have a question on file permission, how does file permission work over network?
[17:05] <tongcx> say i scp a file to a remote server, how is the file permission set?
[17:05] <yeats> Nvveen: cinnamon isn't supported here - it's possible that installing that caused your issues
[17:05] <jhutchins_wk> tongcx: Depends on how you connect.
[17:05] <prashant_123456> kristiyan, ok
[17:05] <tongcx> jhutchins_wk: if i'm using ssh?
[17:06] <prashant_123456> kristiyan, a lot of devices in /dev directory
[17:06] <jerad> Hey everyone, complete Ubuntu newb here... anyone able to help me with a networking issue? (10.4 ubuntu, ATT 2wire gateway)
[17:06] <jhutchins_wk> tongcx: By default it preserves the UID, GID, and permissions, but it may apply the UID:GID of the user to whose account it is copied.
[17:06] <Andre_designer> all the folders of libreoffice in usr/share
[17:06] <jhutchins_wk> tongcx: Permissions should stay the same
[17:06] <Nvveen> yeats, I had Cinnamon way before the problems started. When I do a unity-reset, I get an error about compiz not being able to load the unityshell plugin.
[17:06] <yeats> jhutchins_wk: just ask your questions and if someone knows, they will answer
[17:06] <yeats> Nvveen: have you googled the text of the error message?
[17:07] <TehAndrewRyan> Hi, I've figured out how to send a command to a screen (it shows up in the screen window when I attach it) but it doesn't execute the command, because it requires me to press enter. How do I send an enter stroke to the screen session?
[17:07] <tongcx> jhutchins_wk: if the uid on local computer is mike but on remote is michael, will mike be mapped to michael?
[17:07] <yeats> Andre_designer: I know you probably don't need to be told this at this point, but doing that is a *bad* idea
[17:07] <jhutchins_wk> tongcx: If the numeric id is preserved, yes.
[17:07] <kristiyan> prashant_123456: check which is the usb stick with fdisk -l
[17:07] <Nvveen> yeats, yes. Most results are about a bug with ATII drivers, but I've got an Nvidia card.
[17:08] <tongcx> jhutchins_wk: so ideally, the same user's uid should be the same across different computers? how could i impose that?
[17:08] <yeats> Andre_designer: I would try 'sudo apt-get update', then 'sudo apt-get -f install' first
[17:08] <Nvveen> yeats, I just removed Cinnamon, but still no panels in Unity. The abackground still works, and I can open a terminal with Ctrl+Alt+T
[17:09] <Andre_designer> yes i know it WAS a stupid idea but how can i fix
[17:09] <jerad> I just switched to ATT Uverse, 18 mbps, and consistently get full uptime while on Windows or any other computers... when I boot into Ubuntu it seems to wreck my entire router after a minute or two and my mpbs goes < 2
[17:09] <Andre_designer>  i try already
[17:09] <Andre_designer> that did't work
[17:10] <yeats> Andre_designer: can you pastebin the error message you're getting?
[17:10] <tongcx> jhutchins_wk: also, the same applies if i copy my files to an external hard drive and use that drive on another computer?
[17:10] <prashant_123456> kristiyan, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5562184/
[17:10] <jerad> i thought it was transmission (ATT forums said uploading was causing a backup)
[17:11] <TehAndrewRyan> Hi, I've figured out how to send a command to a screen (it shows up in the screen window when I attach it) but it doesn't execute the command, because it requires me to press enter. How do I send an enter stroke to the screen session?
[17:11] <Andre_designer> pfffff lets see if i can reprduce the problem
[17:11] <jerad> uploads on windows seems to be working just fine, and ubuntu without transmission is still causing problems
[17:11] <caz> Hi there, I've got a strange issue with my nvidia drivers. I installed kernel 3.8 and lastest nvidia from xorg-edges (because 3.5.x + nvidia 304.x does not work together), and now when I log in, I got multiples views for desktop stuff (6 times systray menu, 6 times desk chooser, 6 times "go to desktop" button...). Also, I installed cinnamon (and select it when log in), but it loads me unity which is really buggy...
[17:12] <caz> Maybe it's important to say that I use 2 screens with Xinerama options
[17:12] <kristiyan> prashant_123456: it's 8 gb stick right ?
[17:12] <prashant_123456> right
[17:12] <prashant_123456> kristiyan,
[17:13] <prashant_123456> its sdb i think kristiyan
[17:13] <[Linux]Horst> caz, try something else than cinnamon
[17:13] <jerad> yeats: should i just post like i did and hope someone answers?
[17:13] <Andre_designer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5562196/
[17:13] <frank_> my skype stopped working on 13.04. anyone having the same problem?
[17:13] <tongcx> when i'm "chown user:group", is it okay that "user" is not in "group"?
[17:13] <SonikkuAmerica> frank_: Ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[17:14] <frank_> ok thanks
[17:14] <k1l> frank_: yep. but the dev channel is the #ubuntu+1
[17:14] <caz> [Linux]Horst, you think it's cinnamon issue?
[17:14] <kristiyan> prashant_123456: yeah it's sdb. do you have something important on it
[17:14] <prashant_123456> kristiyan, yes
[17:14] <prashant_123456> kristiyan, do u mean to reformat it ?
[17:14] <caz> but, the problem is that I'm automatically directed to unity as fallback
[17:14] <TehAndrewRyan> So, I've managed to send a command to a screen session via a bash command, but it doesn't send an enter stroke to actually execute it (I have to do it manually as of right now). How do I send an enter stroke to the screen?
[17:14] <[Linux]Horst> caz: i dont know, but it looks like a bug in the DE
[17:15] <Nvveen> yeats, moving around workspaces works too, by the way.
[17:15] <SonikkuAmerica> caz: I'm assuming 12.10?
[17:15] <jerad> I just switched to ATT Uverse, 18 mbps, and consistently get full uptime while on Windows or any other computers... when I boot into Ubuntu it seems to wreck my entire router after a minute or two and my mpbs goes < 2... any ideas what might be the problem?
[17:15] <caz> Yes SonikkuAmerica
[17:15] <kristiyan> prashant_123456: yeah, but we can try to mount it as is
[17:15] <caz> I'll try another DE, I also install Gnome 3 but not tested it yet
[17:15] <prashant_123456> kristiyan, so please tell me
[17:15] <yeats> Andre_designer: what happens when you do 'sudo apt-get install libreoffice-core'?  can you pastebin that?
[17:15] <caz> My nvidia drivers are well installed, I can use Xinerama with no problem
[17:16] <Andre_designer> i paste the error on pastbin http://paste.ubuntu.com/5562196/
[17:16] <jerad> does anyone use https everywhere add-on for firefox? i think that it was causing my problems...
[17:16] <yeats> !who | Andre_designer
[17:16] <wdp> k1l, omg.. there is a bug report already, and it has a "fix" i was searching for that for a year now.. it seems the keyboard has a normal and a gaming mode (shift+ctrl+alt+n and +g) in gaming mode (which seems to be the default) the keyboard does not work in linux (except you apply my fix, which highers HID_MAX_USAGES to 64k from 12k) in normal mode.. it works.
[17:16] <jerad> !tab
[17:16] <wdp> k1l, head->table();
[17:17] <kristiyan> prashant_123456: do you know where is your important data
[17:17] <SonikkuAmerica> caz: I'm having a similar problem on the Raring alpha. Apparently it's a kernel issue then. (Thanks for finding that out for me)
[17:17] <prashant_123456> kristiyan, yes
[17:17] <kristiyan> prashant_123456: which sdb number
[17:18] <caz> SonikkuAmerica, what is also weird is that this issue came also with 3.5.x and 3.7.0 too
[17:18] <caz> I did not try others
[17:18] <SonikkuAmerica> caz: I had no issues with Cinnamon on 3.5; I never used 3.7
[17:18] <Andre_designer> sorry i mean it not wrong i don't want ot be impatient
[17:18] <prashant_123456> kristiyan, i have mounted it in my home directory but the same problem
[17:18] <TehAndrewRyan> So, I've managed to send a command to a screen session via a bash command, but it doesn't send an enter stroke to actually execute it (I have to do it manually as of right now). How do I send an enter stroke to the screen?
[17:19] <SonikkuAmerica> caz: I'll be back in a sec... I'm looking at a shutdown issue
[17:19] <Nvveen> Okay, so Unity is fully supported still on my machine, according to /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test
[17:19] <prashant_123456> kristiyan, have data on usb stick that is /dev/sdb
[17:20] <caz> SonikkuAmerica, no problem, still there
[17:21] <kristiyan> prashant_123456: I assume sdb2 is where your important data located so this should work for you: mount -o loop /dev/sdb2 /home/<username>/Desktop (but before that unmount previous mounts)
[17:22] <mjuszczak> I need to do ipsec over l2tp in ubuntu. Can anyone recommend a way?
[17:22] <prashant_123456> from your above command what we are trying to do ? kristiyan
[17:22] <kristiyan> prashant_123456: mount partition2 (sdb2)
[17:23] <SunMoonStar> I'm trying to reinstall grub (something's wrong with my hd and I had to do fsck to fix it, but still I have no grub at bootup so I am on livecd) by following remmelt's instruction on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24113&highlight=grub+restore .. however, I can't figure out what to type for step 4 after "root (hd" ... can someone help?
[17:23] <prashant_123456> kristiyan, but we are having trouble with usb stick which is /dev/sdb
[17:23] <TehAndrewRyan> So, I've managed to send a command to a screen session via a bash command, but it doesn't send an enter stroke to actually execute it (I have to do it manually as of right now). How do I send an enter stroke to the screen?
[17:23] <Andre_designer> yeats: here is is my pastebin. hoping i do it right now http://paste.ubuntu.com/5562196/
[17:24] <jrib> TehAndrewRyan: how are you sending the command? Also, you may want to look at various "slime" scripts for things vim when being used with screen and tmux to see what they do
[17:25] <tongcx> is it possible to "chown" by uid?
[17:25] <SunMoonStar> how do i find out where my /boot is
[17:25] <jrib> SunMoonStar: /boot is a path.  What do you mean?
[17:25] <escott> tongcx, try it
[17:25] <SunMoonStar> jrib: I'm trying to reinstall grub (something's wrong with my hd and I had to do fsck to fix it, but still I have no grub at bootup so I am on livecd) by following remmelt's instruction on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24113&highlight=grub+restore .. however, I can't figure out what to type for step 4 after "root (hd" ... can someone help?
[17:25] <TehAndrewRyan> It's for a minecraft server running through a screen, I'm sending the command with "screen -S minecraft -X stuff <command>" jrib
[17:25] <milos__> hello, i need help, i installed ubuntu on my nootebook, now i cant access bios setup, tried everything with keys but nothing help
[17:26] <escott> SunMoonStar, what is the point of installing grub on a dying drive?
[17:26] <SunMoonStar> escott: so I can use it while I get a new one I guess
[17:26] <jrib> !grub | SunMoonStar
[17:26] <tongcx> escott: thanks
[17:26] <jrib> SunMoonStar: you can see the instructions there
[17:27] <milos__> hello, i need help, i installed ubuntu on my nootebook, now i cant access bios setup, tried everything with keys but nothing help, how i can enter bios?
[17:27] <tyson_> Hi, does any of you hold the key to sorting the updates on 12.04 server? if you do please help, thank you
[17:27] <milos__> hello, i need help, i installed ubuntu on my nootebook, now i cant access bios setup, tried everything with keys but nothing help
[17:27] <Physicist> Hello.. I want increase the font size of my login screen. later %hostname%, can I put the size like a command?
[17:27] <tongcx> if i transfer a file to a external drive, say now the file has uid 500, then i use this drive on another machine where 500 is mapped to no one, then this file doesn't have a owner?
[17:27] <Physicist> I am using Kubuntu...
[17:27] <Nvveen> Can anyone help with my problem? Unity-panel isn't starting at login. I can launch a terminal, hw acceleration works and other DEs run without problems, but even after a unity/ubuntu-desktop reinstallation does Unity do anything
[17:27] <jasunto> install ubuntu and boots to blinking cursor. nvidia gtx 580, had to use nomodeset to get live to boot to install
[17:28] <xsl> echo 32768 > /sys/block/md0/md/stripe_cache_size
[17:28] <xsl> -su: /sys/block/md0/md/stripe_cache_size: No such file or directory
[17:28] <xsl> can anyone help?
[17:28] <tyson_> milos__ : your problem is
[17:28] <Andre_designer> milos__ have  you try via usb??
[17:28] <TehAndrewRyan> jrib: I'm currently sending the command from the same computer as the one hosting the server for testing purposes. The idea is to have a different computer send the command
[17:28] <tyson_> milos__: UEFI
[17:29] <milos__> well how to find solution
[17:29] <escott> tongcx, no the file is owned by uid 500
[17:29] <milos__> now i cant boot w7 cd installation
[17:29] <tyson_> milos__: you need to press ESC when you start your notebook
[17:29] <Physicist> escott: Hello.. I want increase the font size of my login screen. later %hostname%, can I put the size like a command?
[17:29] <escott> tongcx, the username mappings in /etc/passwd are merely for convenience
[17:29] <jrib> TehAndrewRyan: if you are doing it that way why don't you just send carriage return as the last character?
[17:29] <tyson_> milos__: then go to boot option and try the other option
[17:30] <escott> tongcx, the security model is based on uid
[17:30] <tongcx> escott: so how do people keep uid sync across different machines?
[17:30] <TehAndrewRyan> jrib: How would I send a carriage return? :P I tried googling this issue, but seeing as I don't know Linux too well I don't know how to do it
[17:30] <escott> tongcx, you could centralize it with something like ldap
[17:31] <tyson_> milos__: a simple question, what do you want to do? do you want to re-install W7 or do you want to access you linux instalation?
[17:31] <escott> TehAndrewRyan, \n
[17:31] <tongcx> escott: aha, great, i will take a look
[17:31] <jrib> TehAndrewRyan: some discussion here if \n doesn't work for whatever reason: http://old.nabble.com/sending-CRLF-via-screen--X-stuff-td20433455.html
[17:31] <tongcx> escott: when you transfer file with scp, it will do the uid mapping for you because it knows who's logged in?
[17:31] <Guest6637> hi
[17:31] <TehAndrewRyan> escott: Doing that gives me "Invalid option" in the screen window
[17:32] <Physicist> jrib: Hello.. I want increase the font size of my login screen. later %hostname%, can I put the size like a command?
[17:32] <jerad> I just switched to ATT Uverse, 18 mbps, and consistently get full uptime while on Windows or any other computers... when I boot into Ubuntu it seems to wreck my entire router after a minute or two and my mpbs goes < 2
[17:32] <jrib> Physicist: I don't know about that
[17:32] <milos__> i want to reinstall w7, cause some courses on my college  require to have w7
[17:32] <SunMoonStar> jrib: help ? http://pastebin.com/SU7QkNRD
[17:32] <TehAndrewRyan> escott: Basically trying to send a "say" command right now (testing purposes) but it tells me it's an invalid option when I put \n at the end of the command
[17:32] <SunMoonStar> oops
[17:32] <SunMoonStar> i pasted the wrong thing
[17:33] <Physicist> Any way to increase the font size of login screen in Kubuntu??
[17:33] <tyson_> milos__: restart your notebook while you hold F8.
[17:33] <milos__> ok will try now
[17:33] <tyson_> milos__: it sounds to me like you have a ASUS
[17:33] <milos__> yes
[17:33] <milos__> k55vm
[17:33] <jrib> SunMoonStar: did you read the link ubottu gave you, it's a bit more complete than that forum post
[17:33] <tyson_> milos__: lol.....
[17:33] <SunMoonStar> jrib: http://pastebin.ca/2317101
[17:34] <SunMoonStar> jrib: what's the lock stuff?
[17:34] <tyson_> milos__: check you private messages
[17:34] <Physicist> I tryed something, but, apparently is impossible. I do not believe that is impossible..
[17:34] <Physicist> cannot..
[17:34] <SunMoonStar> jrib: oh it doesn't matter, i got boot-repair to run
[17:34] <escott> tongcx, scp runs on ssh which shares shells it it not a network filesystem
[17:35] <escott> tongcx, so there is a distinction there
[17:35] <SunMoonStar> jrib: unfortunately boot-repair does something on my old wubi instead of on the real linux partition
[17:35] <SunMoonStar> jrib: guess i have to do the other way
[17:35] <escott> tongcx, with NFS there is a process running as root on the server which accepts as input file objects complete with permissions and creates them as such
[17:36] <escott> tongcx, with scp there is an ssh server which spawns a shell like interface that accepts commands to create files from streams
[17:36] <plutonas> Hello I want to install skype, I followed a guide from ubuntu I found online, but it says it depneds on skype-bin which is not going to be installed
[17:36] <plutonas> what can i do?
[17:36] <plutonas> I run ubuntu 12.10
[17:37] <allie83> looking for some help with my flash...i have still pics but no video
[17:37] <allie83> have installed restricted extras and still no video
[17:37] <SonikkuAmerica> SunMoonStar: Apparently dpkg can't have exclusive mode on your Live image for some reason.
[17:37] <escott> tongcx, so with scp a new file is created by a user process with the corresponding users umask and uid. with nfs a root owned process creates a fully formed file that is handed to it (after sanity checking)
[17:38] <tongcx> escott: i see, in ssh there is a corresponding shell, while in NFS, it's more like a file server, right?
[17:38] <ZadYree> Hello here, I'm having a problem on Ubuntu 12.10, after some downgrading; I tried to reinstall kmod using apt-get, but I got an error message ("kmod : Depends: upstart-job")
[17:38] <tyson_> plutonas: what did you install it wih?
[17:38] <Physicist> seemingly, I will continue with the little font.. It is annoying. I mean.. so much!
[17:39] <SunMoonStar> On https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub Under the heading "the terminal way" it says to do sudo grub-isntall /dev/XXX where XXX is the device of the ubuntu install (eg: grub-install /dev/sdb)... this is my fdisk -l .. http://pastebin.com/ccqXVzM7 I have Windows partition on this hd too at sda1 and sda2 and my linux is sda4.. so do i do grub-install /dev/sda ?
[17:39] <escott> tongcx, there isn't actually a shell, but it acts as if there was
[17:39] <ZadYree> reinstalling upstart didn't help btw
[17:39] <plutonas> tyson_: I first tried sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install skype
[17:39] <plutonas> then it also appeared in that software store ubuntu has
[17:39] <plutonas> and i tried from there too
[17:39] <SpindizZzy> can anyone help with an ssh issue ?
[17:39] <SpindizZzy> i can ssh into my server from terminal
[17:39] <plutonas> ah sorry I first added a canonical repository
[17:39] <jrib> ZadYree: what did you downgrade?
[17:40] <escott> tongcx, it acts as if you ran ssh -c "/bin/bash > output.file" < input.file
[17:40] <allie83> help with flash???
[17:40] <jrib> !flash | allie83
[17:40] <SonikkuAmerica> SunMoonStar: Yes. You grub-install to the drive.
[17:40] <SpindizZzy> but not when i use the GNOME-'connect to server'
[17:40] <SunMoonStar> sonikkuAmerica OK thanks
[17:40] <allie83> have installed restricted extras already
[17:40] <SonikkuAmerica> SunMoonStar: Hopefully it'll autoupdate itself, but if it doesn't, [ sudo update-grub ] will fix it.
[17:40] <ZadYree> jrib, i downgraded the Ubuntu Version, from testing 13.04 to 12.10
[17:40] <tongcx> escott: thanks a lot, really helpful
[17:41] <jrib> ZadYree: you're probably better off just doing a fresh install, downgrading isn't supported and you're probably in a fairly broken state
[17:41] <tyson_> plutonas: ok, I don't know how confident you are with command line or SHELL.... but I would suggest you install all your software with the provided software such as software manager or package manager to avoid this trouble
[17:41] <ZadYree> yeah that's what I thought
[17:41] <SonikkuAmerica> SunMoonStar: When you do grub-install you always want to put it on the drive where Ubuntu will be.'
[17:41] <SunMoonStar> SonikkuAmerica: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[17:41] <SunMoonStar> Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.
[17:41] <SunMoonStar> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[17:41] <ZadYree> Just wanted to know if I coul avoid that moment ;)
[17:41] <jrib> ZadYree: you might be able to hammer it out and get it to work, but fresh install is bound to be faster
[17:42] <plutonas> tyson_: ok, but even from there I get the same error as I said
[17:42] <SonikkuAmerica> SunMoonStar: OK, um...
[17:42] <Nvveen> Can anyone help with my problem? Unity-panel isn't starting at login. I can launch a terminal, hw acceleration works and other DEs run without problems, but even after a unity/ubuntu-desktop reinstallation does Unity do anything
[17:42] <ZadYree> ehe thanks for the advice
[17:42] <SpindizZzy> ssh ? anyone ?
[17:42] <SunMoonStar> SonikkuAmerica: my linux is on /dev/sda4 and my windows is on /dev/sda1 or 2 I think .. I just pasted what grub-install said though :\
[17:42] <allie83> ubottu: have been to this page and have done what it has said....
[17:42] <jrib> SunMoonStar: you need to pass some sort of argument... doesn't the wiki mention it?  One sec, let me look
[17:42] <SonikkuAmerica> SunMoonStar: Try [ sudo grub-install -v ]
[17:42] <Ephexeve_laptop> Hey guys, help! What to do here? apt-get ives me this -> http://bpaste.net/show/y1kigwhUcuSvuUhWWjDz/
[17:42] <apple314> Hy guys, first of all apologies because this is so off topic... But been googling for days... I lack the power of wlll, so bought a little safe with electronic lock... I was wondernig if anyone knows of a site of service where I could upload code, and access it only after a given amount of time. Yeah I know I'm lame, but at least I know it. Thanks in advance.
[17:43] <Physicist> !ssh | SpindizZzy
[17:43] <Ephexeve_laptop> I installed python 2.7.3 from source, now I messed it up, how can I fix it?
[17:43] <SunMoonStar> SonikkuAmerica: without anything after the -v ?
[17:43] <SonikkuAmerica> SunMoonStar: correct
[17:43] <jasunto> install ubuntu and boots to blinking cursor. nvidia gtx 580, had to use nomodeset to get live to boot to install
[17:43] <SpindizZzy> Physicist: been there, done that
[17:43] <SunMoonStar> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install -v
[17:43] <SunMoonStar> grub-install (GNU GRUB 0.97)\
[17:43] <SpindizZzy> :)
[17:43] <SunMoonStar> no slash at end
[17:43] <SpindizZzy> it's just a weird issue
[17:43] <SunMoonStar> I'm on live cd by the way
[17:44] <escott> tongcx, another way to think about this is that an NFS server need not have a filesystem on it. it could be backing the NFS share with a SQL database if it choose to. that would not make sense for an ssh server
[17:44] <SonikkuAmerica> SunMoonStar: That's for GRUB Legacy apparently... If the same thing happens, run a [ mount | tail -l ]
[17:44] <SonikkuAmerica> SunMoonStar: With the straight slash (Shift+\)
[17:45] <SunMoonStar> SonikkuAmerica: http://pastebin.com/m7Pgq9P5
[17:45] <tyson_> plutonas: private
[17:46] <SonikkuAmerica> SunMoonStar: So now, [ sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/tmp /dev/sda ]
[17:46] <sp00ky> is there a way to proxy all network traffic (not just browser traffic) in Ubuntu?
[17:46] <allie83> have installed restricted extras to try and fix flash issues and this hasn't helped...what am i missing?
[17:47] <allie83> i have pics but no video
[17:47] <jrib>  allie83 what is the actual issue?  Is your flash blue?  Is it not working at all? etc.
[17:47] <SunMoonStar> SonikkuAmerica: http://pastebin.com/SGSrgFgw
[17:47] <allie83> not working at all...just shows a black screen where a video should be
[17:47] <allie83> and cannot play any games on facebook
[17:47] <SonikkuAmerica> SunMoonStar: Good. Now reboot from the hard drive.
[17:47] <jrib> allie83: what browser?
[17:48] <SunMoonStar> SonikkuAmerica: thank you so much
[17:48] <SunMoonStar> jrib: thank you
[17:48] <allie83> jrib: firefox
[17:48] <SonikkuAmerica> SunMoonStar: Wait! Remember to run [ sudo update-grub ] after Ubuntu boots!
[17:48] <jrib> SunMoonStar: no problem; the wiki probably needs to be updated to say --root-directory should be passed
[17:48] <jrib> allie83: what does this site say about your flash version: https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
[17:48] <Physicist> Oh... My leather is so soft. KDE is great.
[17:48] <Ephexeve_laptop> Anyone?
[17:49] <SunMoonStar> SonikkuAmerica: ok, and that is all?
[17:49] <jrib> !helpme | Ephexeve_laptop
[17:49] <tongcx> escott: em, makes a lot of sense, thanks
[17:49] <SonikkuAmerica> SunMoonStar: If you have problems, boot from live and come back.
[17:49] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: how did you mess it up?
[17:49] <bekks> Ephexeve_laptop: Anyone on what?
[17:49] <SunMoonStar> BTW, people told me my drive is failing as the cause of all these problems, there is no way to fix the drive right? i have to just buy a new one?
[17:49] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: Installing python from source
[17:49] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: how did you mess it up?
[17:49] <SonikkuAmerica> SunMoonStar: But that should be it... Unless it's an SSD, you might want to defrag...
[17:50] <allie83> jrib: i have the latest version 11.2
[17:50] <Ephexeve_laptop> I installed python from source. make install and thats it, for sure it overwrote the defalt python version
[17:50] <jasunto> does anyone have experience in getting 12.10 working with nvidia gtx-580. I cant even get it to boot to install nvidia-common
[17:50] <Ephexeve_laptop> and now I am broke
[17:50] <SunMoonStar> SonikkuAmerica: defrag the windows side? does linux have defrag too?
[17:50] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: what does this return: ls /usr/local/bin
[17:50] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: http://bpaste.net/show/EeCOskvRT0FlLoofqab4/
[17:51] <jerad> I just switched to ATT Uverse, 18 mbps, and consistently get full uptime while on Windows or any other computers... when I boot into Ubuntu it seems to wreck my entire router after a minute or two and my mpbs goes < 2... do you think it could be https everywhere? or some other add-on? i'm attempting turning on/off everything, but ideas of where to start are appreciated.
[17:51] <escott> SunMoonStar, no it is so rarely needed its not an implemented tool
[17:51] <SonikkuAmerica> SunMoonStar: You might check in Windows Disk Management (hit Win+R and type "diskmgmt.msc") or maybe run a CHKDSK
[17:51] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: so you've likely just installed it to /usr/local/ and not overwritten the apt version.  Why do you say it's broken?  And why are you compiling it at all?  Doesn't your ubuntu have python 2.7?
[17:52] <Ephexeve_laptop> not 2.7.3
[17:52] <Ephexeve_laptop> but when I do a apt-get -f install
[17:52] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: please keep your responses on a single line (and if you want my attention just prefix what you say with "jrib: ")
[17:52] <miguel_> [po\]\\
[17:53] <jasunto> anyone
[17:54] <mariah1993> http://41.103.77.161:8080/sexy_ass
[17:54] <SonikkuAmerica> mariah1993: Not here.
[17:54] <artrei> hi, anyone know how to remove firefox webapp reddit launchpad?
[17:55] <SonikkuAmerica> artrei: From the launcher?
[17:56] <allie83> jrib?
[17:56] <jrib> allie83: one sec
[17:56] <SonikkuAmerica> artrei: Same way you remove an app from the launcher: Right-click and select "Remove from Launcher." Or from terminal: [ sudo apt-get {remove | purge} unity-webapp-reddit ]
[17:56] <allie83> thanks
[17:56] <SonikkuAmerica> artrei: *{remove | purge} means use either command but not both.
[17:57] <SonikkuAmerica> artrei: The latter completely removes the web app.
[17:57] <jrib> allie83: can you give an example of something that doesn't work?
[17:57] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: still there?
[17:58] <allie83> jrib: no video anywhere...youtube, facebook, sports pages, news...etc...just a black screen where a video should paly
[17:58] <allie83> play*
[17:58] <artrei> thanks SonikkuAmerica
[17:58] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: yes
[17:58] <caz> brb after reboot for DE test
[17:58] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: did you see my questions?
[17:58] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: yes, basicly I downlaoded the tar file, ./configure and then make -j
[17:59] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: so you've likely just installed it to /usr/local/ and not overwritten the apt version.  Why do you say it's broken?  And why are you compiling it at all?  Doesn't your ubuntu have python 2.7?
[17:59] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: so how is it broken?
[18:00] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: not broken, but when I triy apt-get -f install I get that warning
[18:00] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: what warning?
[18:00] <Ephexeve_laptop> so i am not sure if I should proceed
[18:00] <zorgs> hi
[18:01] <zorgs> I have a question about ubuntu server... or servers in general
[18:01] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: I pasted -> http://bpaste.net/show/y1kigwhUcuSvuUhWWjDz/
[18:01] <jrib> allie83: run "firefox -ProfileManager", create a new profile and see if video works there
[18:01] <zorgs> I'm looking for a set of best-practices in server administration for a production heavy duty web server
[18:02] <jrib> allie83: when you right click on the black screen where a video should be, what do you see?  Does it give you flash options?
[18:02] <zorgs> I've looked at books and all "beginning" sort of books are too beginner-ish, they explain basic concepts about linux and console commands...
[18:02] <bekks> zorgs: Do you fully understand those basic concepts?
[18:02] <zorgs> I already know that stuff, imagine you're an advanced linux-workstation user, but now want to learn a set of best practices when it comes to server administration
[18:02] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: apt doesn't know anything about your source install of python; what you've pasted can't be related to it
[18:03] <zorgs> bekks, pretty much
[18:03] <artrei> SonikkuAmerica, should i delete  /home/username/.local/share/applications/redditredditcom.desktop after i purge the unity-webapps-reddit?
[18:03] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: Hmm
[18:03] <zorgs> bekks, for example, what's a best practice, from security standpoint to set up multiple websites hosted on the machine
[18:03] <bekks> zorgs: Then you're better of with some detailed books about the software you are going to administer, like apache2, etc.
[18:04] <Trikee> Hi everyone, just a quick question im running ubuntu 10.10 i no its eol..just downloaded the new 12.04 wich i like very much, but my lap top seems to be running flatout all the time? but when i go back to 10.10 you cant even hear it workin.?
[18:04] <zorgs> bekks, like do I set up the www-roots for each website in their respective user's dir?
[18:04] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: have you installed any packages not from the official repositories?  Or enabled any unofficial repositories or repositories not meant for your ubuntu version?
[18:04] <allie83> jrib:right clicking does nothing for me
[18:04] <allie83> jrib:run firefox profile manager from terminal?
[18:04] <jrib> allie83: firefox -ProfileManager, create a new profile and try there; yes
[18:04] <SonikkuAmerica> artrei: The purge option alone should remove it, I think. I don't now much about web apps, because they're not available for Google Chrome yet.
[18:04] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: No
[18:05] <SonikkuAmerica> (I should switch to Chromium but it depends on Adobe's dead Flash for videos)
[18:05] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade.  What happens then?
[18:05] <zorgs> bekks, default for that is (in most distros) /var/www and then fork the sites from there, this gets complicated when I want different users to have access to different sites. apache user has to access that too. So what's the safest way... add apache process-owner to each user's group so it can access the roots and keep'em in user dirs.. that kind of stuff
[18:05] <zorgs> bekks, I see, apache docs would cover that.
[18:05] <zorgs> bekks, thanks, that helps
[18:05] <artrei> whats the best web browser for flash games?
[18:05] <zorgs> bekks, got any general recommendations though?
[18:06] <SunMoonStar> Since my HD is dying I want to get a new one. This is my mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128412 .. is there a certain type of HD that I have to get, or any internal HD is fine?
[18:06] <SonikkuAmerica> Trikee: Can you give me your laptop model, processor and graphics card?
[18:06] <bekks> zorgs: There are pretty good books about Apache2 e.g. - besides the best of it all: the official documentation.
[18:06] <nibbler> SunMoonStar: any is fine - if you are SATA already... which is standard for several years
[18:06] <Trikee> SonikkuAmerica ok will do..thanks
[18:07] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: http://bpaste.net/show/z1rTeOmaTd1RORz5nzBF/
[18:07] <zorgs> bekks, I am thinking about going nginx or lighttpd actually all right
[18:07] <zorgs> bekks, thanks
[18:07] <SunMoonStar> nibbler ok thanks
[18:08] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: « apt-cache policy python python-minimal python2.7-minimal » on pastebin
[18:08] <OerHeks> SunMoonStar, you have 6xSATA2 3Gb/s and 2x SATA3  6Gb/s
[18:08] <zorgs> bekks, if you want a safe production environment server distro of the debian fork, which would you pick?
[18:08] <SunMoonStar> OerHeks: oh.. which do i get ?
[18:08] <zorgs> actually this is a general question, any reason I should give something other than ubuntu server a look?
[18:09] <nibbler> zorgs: definately wrong channel to ask this question for an unbiased answer ;-)
[18:09] <OerHeks> SunMoonStar, a SSD is mostly Sata3 so you can choose any drive
[18:09] <SonikkuAmerica> Trikee: you there?
[18:09] <zorgs> nibbler, oh I'm biased towards ubuntu server too :) I like the desktop distro and documentation hah, fair point :)
[18:09] <SonikkuAmerica> nibbler: lol
[18:09] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: http://bpaste.net/show/FJJ5qQrSEKljRiWr2gKe/
[18:10] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: your python-minimal package isn't coming from the repositories
[18:10] <Alroy> How do I get the password and ip from remmina/libvnc?
[18:10] <excito> hello people. Loving my ubuntu experience - smooth,problem free and just generally different. Windows is out of question now. One question - I have these sudden slow downs(mouse becomes laggy etc) for couple of minutes. Not doing anything intesive and hardware shouldn\t be a problem. Is this normal?r
[18:10] <tongcx> why my umask has 4 digits, "0002"?
[18:10] <zorgs> excito, in one word, no, it's never normal
[18:10] <zorgs> excito, something is going on
[18:11] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: Hmm
[18:11] <jrib> tongcx: setuid, setgid, and sticky correspond to the first
[18:11] <excito> zorgs,is there any way to check what's happening. Some sort of event viewer?
[18:11] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: I think I installed from dpkg I downlaoded minimal from the repo of another version of ubuntu
[18:11] <OerHeks> SunMoonStar, i can point to hdd + prices, your hardware supports the latest technic
[18:11] <Ephexeve_laptop> and then dpkg -i package
[18:11] <SonikkuAmerica> excito: System Monitor
[18:11] <nibbler> excito: can you nopaste the output of free -m?
[18:11] <zorgs> excito, I can think of becoming familiar with monitoring tools as the best way to go about it... track it down and then deal with it
[18:11] <SunMoonStar> OerHeks: cool what specs do you need to know
[18:11] <Trikee> Sony Vaio vgn-fw11s | Intel Pro core duo cpu p8400 @2.26ghz | 4gig ram |  hope this helps
[18:11] <Alroy> I've checked remmina.pref but it's cryped.
[18:11] <tongcx> jrib: thanks
[18:11] <excito> nibbler, sorry I am completaly new. What should I do?
[18:12] <nibbler> excito: open a console (ctrl-alt-t), type "free -m" and copy/paste the output to
[18:12] <nibbler> !pastebin | excito
[18:12] <jrib> tongcx: at least I assume so.  That's what first digit corresponds to in stat output.  What's the context?
[18:12] <SunMoonStar> OerHeks: oh you are saying that I already have a good mobo. so, sure, I'm all ears to know what your suggestion is :)
[18:13] <SonikkuAmerica> Trikee: Is that Intel Core Duo or Core 2 Duo?
[18:13] <allie83> jrib: created a new profile as my name instead of default and same results: black screen where video should be
[18:13] <excito> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5562385/
[18:13] <Trikee> sorry its intel core 2 duo
[18:13] <OerHeks> SunMoonStar, choosing hdd is not really ontopic, join #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:13] <octocpp> Anyone know of a good channel to discuss AIDE configuration stuff?
[18:13] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: you should downgrade back down (or try to at least)
[18:14] <excito> does that give any indication to what's happening nibbler?
[18:14] <Alroy> I'd like to restore an old configuration from the remote desktop.
[18:14] <tongcx> in ubuntu, the default uid and gid is the same, and it uses my username as groupname, is there any reason for this, seems strange to me
[18:14] <nibbler> excito: it might or might not give indication
[18:14] <SonikkuAmerica> Trikee: Can you run [ uname -p ] in terminal?
[18:14] <zorgs> tongcx, what do you expect?
[18:14] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: Hmm how?
[18:14] <jrib> allie83: pastebin the contents of the page you get when you type "about:plugins" into the address bar
[18:15] <zorgs> tongcx, or, let me rephrase... "as opposed to what?"
[18:15] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: apt-get install PACKAGE=VERSION
[18:15] <nibbler> excito: ah, you pasted already, sorry didnt see. ok, so you do have swapspace - the behaviour you describe sounds a lot like out of memory error - do you hear heavy disk operations during this hangs?
[18:15] <caz> I'm back, logged in with both Unity DE or Gnome 3 DE, and still having these issues (in gnome). In Ubuntu, I don't have any window borders, any dock, anything on the desk. The only thing I can launch is a terminal which can open me what I want. And I don't have any close or minimize buttons on terminal or app windows oppened
[18:16] <Trikee> no i cant it says unknown,
[18:16] <excito> I wouldn't say so nibbler, but I can't be entirely sure. How would one go about increasing swapspace?
[18:16] <excito> just happened again now
[18:16] <SonikkuAmerica> Trikee: Unknown command?
[18:16] <tongcx> zorgs: so why not create a user with uid "mike" and gid "users"?
[18:16] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: http://bpaste.net/show/GKSVwnafyz8saCWmLtG8/
[18:17] <Trikee> just unknown
[18:17] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: right, but you need to specify the "=VERSION" part.  To find the version, look at the apt-cache policy output
[18:17] <DeliriumTremens> so i know i can ssh into a machine and run an application all in one command, is there a way to make the session auto-terminate when the application stops?
[18:17] <nibbler> excito: well, first you'd need to know if it is a problem caused by that - if the free -m output still looks alike (with plenty of MB in the free/buffers/cached column) it is not a out-of-memory issue
[18:17] <zorgs> tongcx, why would you want users to be the same group? the default position of every user being its own group is more secure
[18:17] <Alroy> Is it not possible to restore the old configuration? The hard disk is here and I have the password.
[18:17] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: also, the package is python-minimal, not python2.7...
[18:17] <SonikkuAmerica> Trikee: That's weird. It should say "x86_64" (I have a Core 2 in my machine)
[18:17] <nibbler> excito: if it was an OOM you would also see that in the output of the command "dmesg" in the console - near the bottom after a hang
[18:18] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: same error.
[18:18] <zorgs> tongcx, it's more of a windows standard
[18:18] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: pastebin
[18:18] <SonikkuAmerica> Trikee: That might be your problem: it doesn't appear to have determined what arch (i386, i686, x86_64, amd64) you're using...
[18:18] <zorgs> tongcx, where permissions work a little differently (on NTFS)
[18:18] <Trikee> im using my 10.10 at the moment not the new 12.04 will that have anyhting to do with it updates etc?
[18:18] <tongcx> zorgs: i see, just feel if there are 1000 users then there are 1000 groups is wasteful for groups :)
[18:18] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: http://bpaste.net/show/m0LjT1adYXGiHtCrL7qA/
[18:18] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: you haven't specified the version
[18:19] <zorgs> tongcx, naw man, it's not wasteful at all :) the group file with 1000 groups would be what... 100kb? that's almost nothing :)
[18:19] <glenn_> ho can help me to activate office 2010 by wine
[18:19] <SonikkuAmerica> Trikee: Try [ uname -i ] next. (I'll get back to what you said in a minute)
[18:19] <excito> nibbler, that's what dmesg brings - last couple of lines that is - http://paste.ubuntu.com/5562402/
[18:19] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: what is it? python-minimal2.7?
[18:19] <Ephexeve_laptop> doesnt find
[18:19] <tongcx> zorgs: i know, just syntax wasteful
[18:19] <Trikee> becouse its end of the line it gets no update or support any more?
[18:20] <glenn_> how had installed microsoft office 2010 and activated
[18:20] <zorgs> tongcx, well in *nixes that default position is kind of needed for privacy
[18:20] <nibbler> excito: my guess was bad then - no memory issues
[18:20] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: look at the apt-cache policy output (http://bpaste.net/show/FJJ5qQrSEKljRiWr2gKe/).  You see the versions listed there for python-minimal?  The *** one is the one  you have now.  And below it you see another version coming from your repositories
[18:20] <tongcx> zorgs: could you give an example why separate users like this is a good practice?
[18:20] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: though it may still fail if apt tries to configure the current version before downgrading.  But we'll cross that bridge when we come to it
[18:20] <zorgs> tongcx, on NTFS, a file can have many specific permissions, like you can give a couple of different users permission on one file/folder and they can be in the same group
[18:21] <zorgs> tongcx, for simplicity's sake, you only have owner and group permission sets on ubuntu
[18:21] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: python2.7-minimal? did that, sam error
[18:21] <allie83> jrib: i get links to google chrome...? should i switch to this browser?
[18:21] <Kurdistan> Hi can some one look to this do pict: http://i.imgur.com/tWmmUFM.png and http://i.imgur.com/weqL9gz.png . I think the bug is Compiz/Unity related.
[18:21] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: though it may still fail if apt tries to configure the current version before downgrading.  But we'll cross that bridge when we come to it
[18:21] <excito> nibbler, thanks for your help anyway. Are there any other console commands I should input just after the hang or programs to monitor,to possibly identify the issue?
[18:21] <zorgs> tongcx, and if every user was the member of "users" group, if the default group permissions were read-execute
[18:21] <caz> Any ideas?
[18:21] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: no.  apt-get install python-minimal=2.7.2-7ubuntu2 (sorry I hit up by mistake before)
[18:22] <Trikee> Sorry again unknown.
[18:22] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: same error
[18:22] <zorgs> tongcx, every user would be able to read and execute stuff from every other user, since they're effectively all members of the same user group called "users"
[18:22] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: pastebin
[18:22] <tongcx> zorgs: but if umask is 066, then that's fine, right?
[18:22] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: http://bpaste.net/show/pI5hXu6m5lKEWDajT83C/
[18:22] <SonikkuAmerica> Trikee: OK. Hold on one sec...
[18:22] <lhuang> hello, does anyone know how to get OpenGL to work?  I installed my ati drivers properly I think
[18:22] <jrib> allie83: when you visit "about:plugins" you get links to chrome?  You can try chrome if you want, it's a good browser
[18:23] <allie83> jrib: am installing it now and will let you know how it goes
[18:23] <allie83> suprie1983...are you still out there?
[18:23] <zorgs> tongcx, yes, you can remove all group permissions and it's fine
[18:23] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: grab the .deb then from packages.ubuntu.com for example (you need to grab python-minimal version 2.7.2-7ubuntu2 for your ubuntu version exactly).  Then use dpkg on that
[18:24] <zorgs> tongcx, just impractical, if anyone forgets or typos the mask, it's a liability I reckon that's enough...
[18:24] <tongcx> zorgs: i see the point, the current practice is more flexible
[18:24] <nibbler> excito: hard to tell... the whole screen freezes you say? top and htop might be helpfull, aswell as dstat to monitor what you system is doing while its freezing
[18:24] <Prolac> hi, does the number in htop memory bar shows how much memory is used or how much is left?
[18:24] <zorgs> tongcx, and has no real downside...
[18:24] <zorgs> tongcx, unixes are extremely scalable by design
[18:24] <tongcx> zorgs: also, the default permission for others is r--, is this an issue?
[18:25] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: also pastebin « apt-cache policy python-minimal » again since something looks strange to me
[18:25] <zorgs> tongcx, if you come from windows, having a lot of something usually means it will bog the system down eventually... if it's a workstation
[18:25] <zorgs> tongcx, so I understand your instincts
[18:25] <mtx_1980> hi ppl
[18:25] <zorgs> tongcx, they're justified
[18:25] <mtx_1980> need help
[18:25] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: Alrady did, installing http://bpaste.net/show/XuODgIMz7tQq0FxD53en/
[18:25] <excito> nibbler, the thing is - the system is usable but it's very stuttering - the mouse is jerky etc for that one minute,until it goes back to normal. This even happens if I were to be just typing in open office
[18:25] <zorgs> tongcx, that makes it readable
[18:25] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: ah wait, your local install may now be messing you up :)
[18:25] <Prolac> for example 30/244 - does it mean that 30 megabytes are used or left?
[18:25] <tongcx> zorgs: but then everyone can read my files?
[18:26] <mtx_1980> need to install skype, doont appear in software center
[18:26] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: aham..
[18:26] <tongcx> zorgs: why that's a good thing?
[18:26] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: right, so ignore the advice before about grabbing the .deb.  But you do need to get rid of your python that you installed to /usr/local/ apparently
[18:26] <nibbler> excito: open 3 terminals, one with "htop" running and one with "dstat 10" - after/during the next hang nopaste the outputs
[18:26] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: how?!
[18:26] <zorgs> tongcx, depends on the system, what are you talking about here, your workstation?
[18:26] <Ephexeve_laptop> no make uninstall
[18:26] <zorgs> tongcx, or a server that servers 100s or 1000s of users?
[18:27] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: you can try "make uninstall" in the directory where you did "make install" before.  If that doesn't work, then you'll have to manually delete what got installed to /usr/local/
[18:27] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: cant i just make install | xarg rm ?
[18:27] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: no
[18:27] <glenn_> how have installed microsoft office 2010 by wine
[18:28] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: oh god..
[18:28] <alen_> Dumb Question, how do I make this letter on my keyboard?: |
[18:28] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: how will I do that?!
[18:28] <ZadYree> Ah, I'm about to reinstall the system but one thing first: I'm planning to keep the /home directory, but is the fact I'm using cryptsetup bothering for the reinstallation?
[18:29] <excito> thank you nibler, I've set it up and will let you know the results once the system freezes
[18:29] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: though getting rid of the stuff in /usr/local/bin is probably enough to get your system to stop using the version in /usr/local.  You'll just have other cruft in there wasting space.  One other option is to install it again but this time use checkinstall (which creates a dumb .deb) and then remove the custom .deb
[18:29] <SonikkuAmerica> Trikee: Well that doesn't help us. Are you running 32- or 64-bit 10.10?
[18:29] <lhuang> I'm having issues with my ati drivers, OpenGL doesnt work.
[18:29] <tongcx> zorgs: my workstation
[18:29] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: this is one reason why people use package managers :)
[18:29] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: checkinstall make install?
[18:29] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: I never used ubuntu, gentoo guy here
[18:29] <Ephexeve_laptop> so yeah...
[18:29] <Ephexeve_laptop> source guy..
[18:29] <alen_> How do I scroll chat in lrssi? It won't let me in my terminal ._.
[18:30] <zorgs> tongcx, it's usually necessary for system processes that are not affiliated with your user's group to have access to your files. Unless you started it, it won't run as your user process but as a process whose owner is another normal user (not root), so it wouldn't be able to access your personal stuff that way.
[18:30] <DJones> alen_: page up/down buttons if you mean irssi
[18:30] <alen_> Ty!
[18:30] <Kurdistan> :( No one that knows whats effecting this bug?
[18:30] <requiem1> lhuang: have you tried the proprietary drive for ati?
[18:30] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: I cannot use checkinstall because no module named operator!!!
[18:30] <Ephexeve_laptop> Oh this will be impossible
[18:30] <Trikee> SonikkuAmerica This is a screen shot of the driver in 10.10.http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/4987/screenshot1wan.png..but when i open this in 12.04 its all just blank?
[18:31] <lhuang> requiem1:  Yes, I'm pretty sure it installed properly
[18:31] <alen_> proprietary driver? good goy..
[18:31] <SonikkuAmerica> Trikee: Is this Xubuntu?
[18:31] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: why don't you just start by deleting the stuff that ended up in /usr/local/bin from your custom python 2.7.3 install?
[18:31] <zorgs> tongcx, like if you run a web server system service, it will be owned by a special user, generally "www" or something, depends on distro
[18:31] <Trikee> ubuntu
[18:31] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: then focus on getting apt back in order
[18:31] <teslas_moustache> 12.04 boots to black screen after kernel update.
[18:31] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: becaue I dunno what to delete!
[18:32] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: what do you have in /usr/local/bin that you want to keep?  Delete the complement.
[18:32] <lhuang> requiem1, when I try to install something in Crossover it tells me OpenGL doesnt work
[18:32] <zorgs> zorgs, if you want it to make some local content available (generally this is what a web server does), it won't work if you want it to access stuff in your user folders
[18:32] <zorgs> oops
[18:32] <zorgs> tongcx, if you want it to make some local content available (generally this is what a web server does), it won't work if you want it to access stuff in your user folders
[18:32] <SonikkuAmerica> Trikee: (Different GNOME 2 skin then.) Anyway, your AMD/ATi driver may not be supported in Precise (12.04)
[18:32] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: you say remove everything?
[18:32] <lhuang> requiem1, when I've installed games and stuff it will install but wont run
[18:33] <tongcx> zorgs: i see, very helpful
[18:33] <zorgs> tongcx, you'd have to copy it into a dir that the www user can read, like its own default /var/www/ tree
[18:33] <zorgs> tongcx, this may seem unnecessary too
[18:33] <SonikkuAmerica> !ati
[18:33] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: everything in /usr/local/ is from things outside the package manager.  You installed them manually
[18:33] <feequilty> search french
[18:33] <zorgs> tongcx, but the reason for this is, if your web server is somehow exploited so it executes some mailicous code
[18:33] <Trikee> Thats what im thinking? Is that any thing i can do?
[18:33] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: ok, done deleted
[18:33] <SonikkuAmerica> Trikee: Pastebin the output of [ sudo lshw -C video ].
[18:33] <zorgs> tongcx, that code can do stuff that the www user can, since the www user is the owner of the process
[18:33] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: try "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[18:33] <zorgs> tongcx, there's only so much damage it can do... not that much
[18:33] <zorgs> tongcx, if it can't access your user files
[18:34] <zorgs> tongcx, or it only has "r--" access
[18:34] <feequilty> french personn on the tchat ?
[18:34] <zorgs> tongcx, can't really screw you over by deleting your stuff or changin it now can it? :)
[18:34] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: http://bpaste.net/show/k1PzqgTxfPHRycgiZv4K/
[18:34] <Trikee> Ok i will try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto
[18:34] <DJones> !fr | feequilty
[18:34] <glenn_> how can help me with office 2010 and wine
[18:34] <allie83> jrib: chrome keeps having to "kill page" not to inpressed...anything i could do at all to try and restore firefox...remove then re-add adobe and flash...any ideas?
[18:34] <SonikkuAmerica> !wine | glenn_
[18:34] <tongcx> zorgs: for secrete data, i probably want '---', right?
[18:35] <excito> nibbler, this sounds like an issue I am experiencing,and it also has a fix - http://souriguha.wordpress.com/2011/03/08/how-to-solve-problem-with-thinkpadkslowd-kworker-on-linux-kernel-2-35-2-36/ Of course atm I am running 3.5.0 kernel - would the fix be still valid?Just don't want to crash the system
[18:35] <zorgs> tongcx, yeah of course, note that this works for local processes, if you don't allow access to your machine, having stuff readable doesn't matter...
[18:35] <jsn> What's a good room for bind9 questions? I did an update and now my bind9 is no longer working.
[18:36] <jsn> Here is _all_ I can see from the logs: http://pastebin.ca/2317110 (bind9 isn't starting)
[18:36] <jrib> allie83: did you get a chance to pastebin that about:plugins info?
[18:36] <tongcx> zorgs: em, thanks a lot, really clearified my mind
[18:36] <zorgs> tongcx, I mean it won't make it readable to anyone. Just anyone LOCAL on your machine. Which nobody other than you... and maybe a server that you're running. Still, extra security precations are always good.
[18:37] <zorgs> tongcx, glad to be of help
[18:37] <SonikkuAmerica> Trikee: If you pasted it I missed it.
[18:37] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: any clue?
[18:37] <Trikee> SonikkuAmerica Hope this helps http://pastebin.com/Lzj9J3Pz
[18:37] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: not yet.  Looking at what causes this
[18:38] <Ephexeve_laptop> basicly dpkg needs python
[18:38] <Ephexeve_laptop> and the python I installed didnt bring _struct with it
[18:38] <musixauce3000> Greetings Ubuntu community!
[18:39] <allie83> jrib: about=plugins i get a google search result page
[18:39]  * jsn admonishes himself for not giving greetings.
[18:39] <SonikkuAmerica> Trikee: So it's a Mobility Radeon HD 3400. There are known issues with the prop driver starting with !Oneiric.
[18:39] <nibbler> excito: sounds good, you won't crash anything there i guess. just do the step from 7. and test it, if its working make it permanent like described in 9.
[18:39] <teslas_moustache> anyone have an idea of how to fix this? 12.04 doesn't boot after kernel update to 3.5
[18:39] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: well dpkg doesn't need python afaik but it is trying to configure the python-minimal package and part of that involves importing _struct but it can't find it, yes.  It isn't using the python you installed anymore though
[18:39] <jrib> allie83: : not =
[18:39] <excito> thank you nibbler,how does one 'make myself root though?'
[18:39] <zorgs> i'm out cheers every1
[18:39] <musixauce3000> lol jsn. I was wondering if this is the location where I might procure some help for myself
[18:40] <nibbler> excito: sudo -i
[18:40] <excito> nibbler: 'open shell(terminal I suppose?) and become root
[18:40] <jsn> I have a tricky startup error with bind9. There is no error message, so nothing to google for. The startup logging just stops. Oh, strace! Duh.
[18:40] <excito> thank you
[18:40] <jsn> musixauce3000: It can be helpful.
[18:40] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: Hmmm
[18:40] <Ephexeve_laptop> damn..
[18:40] <allie83> jrib: sorry ...what am i looking for here?
[18:40] <musixauce3000> I have scoured the internet and found some pretty in depth and helpful blogs on the subject, but non of them seem to really address the issue I'm having
[18:40] <jrib> allie83: you are pastebinning what you see
[18:41] <allie83> jrib:how do i pastebin?
[18:41] <jrib> !pastebin | allie83
[18:41] <Trikee> Oh ok..So what do you suggest,? i move to another distro?
[18:41] <jsn> Hmm, strace doesn't work so well when starting named in a chroot jail, let me try without the jail.
[18:41] <SonikkuAmerica> Trikee: You might cut to a different DE, something that's less graphics-intense, such as Xubuntu or Lubuntu.
[18:42] <jerad> !repeat
[18:42] <SonikkuAmerica> Trikee: To do that just grab an ISO, burn it to disc or USB, and select "Upgrade to {X|L}ubuntu 12.04 LTS"
[18:42] <Trikee> SonikkuAmerica Ok, thanks for your time.
[18:43] <SonikkuAmerica> Trikee: You're welcome! Enjoy Ubuntu!
[18:43] <excito> nibbler: thank you for the help. Hope this works,I inputed the cmd and will see how it works. Should it say anything(i.e. do in the terminal or respond with e.g. - something changed or done) after i've pasted the cmd?It just seems to return me to the non-root possibility of writing something
[18:44] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: no solution right?
[18:44] <nibbler> excito: no, you just wrote some text into a virtual file that controls kernel behaviour.... to output there...
[18:44] <maitake> Trikee.. maybe try a minimal cd install and then install a desktop environment?
[18:44] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: what's happening now when you run "python"?
[18:44] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: I enter the shell of 2.7.3
[18:44] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: can you do "import _struct"?
[18:45] <excito> nibbler: perfect,hope I see no more of the hangs. If so,will make it permanent as you said. Thanks a lot,much appreciated from a newly converted windows user :)
[18:45] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: wait, 2.7.3?
[18:45] <nibbler> excito: but you should be root still afterwards (exit to leave) - you might see something in dmesg that confirms the action, but if you don't get an error, it basically means success
[18:45] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: Yeps
[18:45] <Ephexeve_laptop> I overwrote the stuff from 2.7.2 man
[18:45] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: what's the output of "type python"?
[18:45] <nibbler> excito: welcome
[18:45] <musixauce3000> Well... the problem I'm having is that I can't seem to get sound to play through my HDMI port.
[18:45] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: python is hashed (/usr/bin/python)
[18:45] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: so you passed some arguments to ./configure?
[18:45] <allie83> jrib:sorry have never done this before what am i to send you so you can see what im seeing? sorry newbie of sorts
[18:45] <jrib> allie83: just select all the text and put it up on pastebin
[18:46] <allie83> jrib: have done that
[18:46] <jrib> allie83: now you give the link here
[18:46] <excito> nibbler: yep,just checked - still root after the cmd. thanks
[18:46] <musixauce3000> As I said I've already followed instructions from several blogs and troubleshooting pages but I still can't get mine to work
[18:46] <miszczo> hello i have problem witch resolution on ubuuntu 12.10 witch nvidia driver. I have only 1920x1200 in my ibmt61p. I would like to have 640x480 to play counter strike?
[18:46] <allie83> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5562484/plain/
[18:46] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: first time I did make install adn that's it, second time when configuring (because the first gave me an error, I did) ./configure --prefix=/usr --enable-shared
[18:47] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: ah, ok, then that's bad.  Yes, you overwrote it by doing that.  I didn't realize you had installed it twice
[18:47] <musixauce3000> This blog got me the closest to resolving the issue I've been, but alas it did not solve it
[18:48] <musixauce3000> http://jaysdesktop.blogspot.com/2011/10/enabling-hdmi-audio-out-in-ubuntu-1004.html
[18:48] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: exactly
[18:48] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: So no way to fix this?
[18:48] <jrib> allie83: well I don't what the issue would be.  Seems like you're using adobe's flash
[18:49] <allie83> jrib: and i've gotten all the automatic updates since install too...so that's why i'm lost :S
[18:49] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: you can try reinstalling all the base python packages at once I guess.  No idea if it will work
[18:50] <jrib> allie83: it used to work?
[18:50] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: how's that?
[18:50] <allie83> jrib: no i haven't had any video since i installed ubuntu...what did i miss?
[18:50] <jrib> allie83: what video card do you have?
[18:51] <allie83> not sure
[18:51] <jrib> allie83: lsusb | grep -i vga
[18:51] <shwouchk> hello
[18:51] <means> Hello. How can I bind some key to disable a set of other keys?
[18:52] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: maybe something like: apt-get install --reinstall python python2.7 python-minimal python2.7-minimal # I'm fairly doubtful this will work though
[18:52] <shwouchk> Is there an event somewhere for the insertion or removal of a screen?
[18:52] <allie83> jrib: as sudo in terminal?
[18:52] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: Nop, the same
[18:53] <Inoki> Yo all, can anyone recommend a desktop environment that has the best peripheral management? To be exact, I need to get mouse acceleration properly working, i.e. real fast.
[18:54] <Hwkiller> Inoki: any of them should do fine
[18:54] <SolarisBoy> Inoki: unity allows control of acceslleration/sensitivity of mouse
[18:54] <Hwkiller> or you can use xset 1 1
[18:54] <Inoki> Hwkiller: well, Xfce doesn't.
[18:54] <SolarisBoy> Inoki: open dash and type mouse
[18:54] <Hwkiller> er, xset m 1
[18:54] <SolarisBoy> oh yea =)
[18:54] <Inoki> sorry, forgot to add I'm using Xfce 4.10 currently, but tried many settings all of which to no avail.
[18:55] <means> Hello. How can I bind some key to disable a set of other keys? Or how to bind mouse action to disable certain keys?
[18:55] <alen> the friends at debian told me that ubuntu sells my information to amazon, is this true?
[18:55] <Inoki> hence looking for a DE that has peripheral management that actually works.
[18:55] <Hwkiller> Inoki: quickly change mouse accel in terminal with: xset m 1 1
[18:56] <Hwkiller> but both gnome and kde work
[18:56] <Inoki> Hwkiller: so you suggest to install Unity over XFCE 4.10?
[18:56] <alen> does Ubuntu collect my data and sel to amazon?
[18:56] <Hwkiller> dude, it's up to you. I think if all you want to change is your mouse accel, then just run the command I gave you, lol
[18:57] <SolarisBoy> xset sounds pretty good to me - then you can run whatever DE you want right?
[18:57] <SolarisBoy> xset should work
[18:57] <allie83> jrib: i enter that command and brings me back to prompt...it tells me nothing about my video card...no info
[18:57] <Hwkiller> yup
[18:58] <Hwkiller> xset m [multiplier] [threshold]; xset m 1 1 means "multiply it by 1, after going 1 pixel", or "no accel"
[18:58] <DJones> alen: No it doesn't send your information to Amazon
[18:58] <shwouchk> Hello
[18:58] <Hwkiller> alen: and if you're concerned, you can remove the amazon shopping lens
[18:58] <Inoki> Hwkiller: I'd need it real speedy.
[18:58] <jrib> allie83: sorry, I meant lspci
[18:58] <shwouchk> What event can I use to detect a monitor being (un)plugged?
[18:58] <Hwkiller> Inoki: so change it to something like xset m 2 1
[18:58] <Hwkiller> twice as fast, always
[18:58] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: did nothing happen?
[18:59] <Inoki> Hwkiller: I'll try, thanks! :)
[18:59] <Hwkiller> or xset m 10 5; multiply speed by 10 after going 5 pixels in one second
[18:59] <alen> I'm concerned about it because at the debian channel the claims were loud that they do so
[18:59] <Hwkiller> (I think it's per second; can't remember)
[18:59] <alen> i have no idea how to remove the shopping lens D:
[18:59] <Hwkiller> ah
[18:59] <DJones> !adlens | alen
[18:59] <allie83> jrib: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] (rev a1)
[18:59] <Hwkiller> alen: sudo apt-get remove unity-lens-shopping
[18:59] <alen> thx!
[19:00] <Hwkiller> np
[19:00] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: Nothing..
[19:00] <jrib> !nvidia | allie83
[19:00] <Inoki> Hwkiller: one last thing, what are the default values, should I want to go back?
[19:01] <Hwkiller> Inoki: not sure; I always just disable accel altogether.
[19:01] <allie83> jrib: will this link from the bot help?
[19:02] <Inoki> Hwkiller: and you do that by typing xset m ? ? I think it's disabled by default. When I ran xfconf it has shown mouse accel at 0.000.
[19:02] <alen> I recently installed Archey for ubuntu and made it start up with the opening of a new terminal, each time I get following error followed by regular archey though: df: `/root/.gvfs': Permission denied
[19:02] <alen> what do
[19:02] <ikonia> alen: you shouldn't be running as root
[19:02] <Hwkiller> Inoki: I don't know! lol; I think it resets when X resets
[19:02] <alen> aw damn
[19:02] <Hwkiller> dunno what the default values are
[19:02] <Inoki> Hwkiller: :D Ok :D
[19:02] <jrib> allie83: if you haven't installed your drivers from nvidia, it may
[19:03] <alen> Any tip on how to not run it as root? it's really annoying to see it pop up each time
[19:03] <alen> alen@ubuntu:~$ df: `/root/.gvfs': Permission denied
[19:03] <ikonia> alen: what have you done to your machine
[19:03] <ikonia> alen: why have you got mounted file systems as root
[19:03] <ikonia> (user space mounted)
[19:04] <allie83> jrib: use nvidia current?
[19:04] <alen> I installed archey and followed some commands from the website to install it D:
[19:04] <ikonia> alen: .gvfs isn't anything to do with archy
[19:04] <ikonia> alen: I suggest quicly rebooting and testing df again
[19:04] <Hwkiller> are you running a gnome sessions as root?
[19:04] <Hwkiller> session*
[19:04] <Hwkiller> (unity)
[19:05] <efuse> hey
[19:05] <alen> ok will do thanks ikonia brb
[19:05] <efuse> is there a less 'thick' version of unity, for situations where screen space is at a premium?
[19:05] <ikonia> efuse: unity just has a side bar...nothing more
[19:05] <ikonia> how much less than that do you want ?
[19:06] <efuse> yes, and it takes up a ton of space
[19:06] <efuse> i want it to be as thin as cinnamon
[19:06] <SolarisBoy> and you can change the size of the icons which makes it slimmer
[19:06] <ClientAlive> I have a problem with evolution mail. The color of the highlight bar (when email items are highlighted) as well as header information in the displayed email is black and the text can not be read in these areas (information in the to, from, and subject fields). I have looked in Edit > Settings but don't see anything to do with editing the appearance. It is the only application on this machine that does that. The other applications appear
[19:06] <ClientAlive> fine.
[19:06] <ikonia> efuse: set it to auto hide
[19:06] <ClientAlive> What can I do?
[19:06] <Disk1of5> hey all, hope some one can guide me in the  right direction, i have a dual monitor setup.. i have had for years since ubuntu 5.10 and i have always used Twinview i hear that nvidia is phasing that out in favor for Randr support.. just wondering im using nvidia 310.14... can just disable twinview and using something else now?...
[19:06] <SolarisBoy> word
[19:06] <efuse> i don't want it hidden, i want it visibible and thin
[19:06] <ikonia> ClientAlive: have you changed themes ?
[19:06] <SolarisBoy> efuse: install myunity and make it thin then
[19:06] <ClientAlive> ikonia: in fact I did
[19:06] <efuse> myunity does it? thanks.
[19:06] <SolarisBoy> i think you can also do it from appearance tab too
[19:06] <ikonia> ClientAlive: probably a theme problem then, put it back to normal
[19:06] <SolarisBoy> without installing anything else - it's icon size afaik.
[19:06] <ClientAlive> it's currently that kde gorilla thingy
[19:07] <SolarisBoy> ew
[19:07] <ClientAlive> ikonia: and if I like my theme?
[19:07] <feno70> hi
[19:07] <ClientAlive> ikonia: is there any way to edit parts of the theme?
[19:07] <ikonia> ClientAlive: talk to the person who made the theme and ask them to fix it, or learn how the theme works
[19:08] <alen> ikonia
[19:08] <ikonia> alen: yes ?
[19:08] <ClientAlive> Can anyone explain how themes in ubuntu 12.04 work?
[19:08] <alen> It fixed itself, thanks a lot :D
[19:08] <alen> just with restarting
[19:08] <ClientAlive> Is it possible to edit parts of a theme?
[19:08] <ikonia> ClientAlive: they are a set of files with basically a theme file that acts the same as a css
[19:08] <SolarisBoy> ClientAlive: thats probably a deep topic for this generic channel
[19:09] <ikonia> ClientAlive: it's well documented on the kde website (I assume you're using kde based on your kde theme comment earlier)
[19:09] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: can you pastebin?
[19:09] <alen> What is you guys opinion on Chromium?
[19:09] <ikonia> ClientAlive: there are also docs on the ubuntu wiki
[19:09] <ClientAlive> SolarisBoy: ikonia: ok. Well I thought maybe there were settings (gui frontend way).
[19:09] <ClientAlive> grrr
[19:09] <Disk1of5> can some one help me out with Twinview.. do i still have to use it for proper dual monitor support in ubuntu 12.10 with the nvidia 310.14 drivers?
[19:09] <ClientAlive> that's why I'm here and not reading a wiki
[19:10] <ClientAlive> if you don't know then fine
[19:10] <ikonia> I do know
[19:10] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: pastebin what?
[19:10] <SolarisBoy> there are and they expose what they expose - if you want to do custom you can - create a theme - so check the docs etc ClientAlive
[19:10] <ikonia> I'm using my own custom theme at the moment
[19:10] <ClientAlive> how about allow me to see if any of the other 1808 people here might know
[19:10] <newbie4s3m> ./s irc.act-crew.org
[19:10] <allie83> jrib: i want to download the tar.gz correct?
[19:10] <ikonia> ClientAlive: it's quite hard to explain is you haven't done any research on it
[19:11] <unborn> ClientAlive, ask them :)
[19:11] <ikonia> ClientAlive: after you've grasped the basics, it's easier to be specific then
[19:11] <SolarisBoy> which is probably why the point to documentation was the right thing to do.
[19:12] <Fang> so I'm trying to install iTunes on 12.10 and everything I've found says find it on playonlinux but it's not there for me. any advice?
[19:12] <ClientAlive> ikonia: ok, ok. It's just that I have no intention of devoting much effort to this particular issue. Perhaps that means I switch to a differnt them then (if there are not settings that are easily found).
[19:12] <ClientAlive> ikonia: thx man
[19:12] <jrib> allie83: no, just got to software sources and then the drivers tab
[19:12] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: what happened when you tried with --reinstall
[19:13] <Ephexeve_laptop> Yhg1s: http://bpaste.net/show/C3c5Jk7YzIq0tv18S26n/
[19:13] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: I'll be back in ~15
[19:13] <Inoki> Hwkiller: tried, on the desktop the mouse runs like hell, in Steam to no avail, but thanks.
[19:13] <ikonia> ClientAlive: it's a bit like saying " how do I edit the banned on my website's css" if you've got no idea how CSS works...it's tough
[19:13] <unborn> Fang, just install file then
[19:13] <Fang> I'm not sure how, I'm new to all this
[19:14] <mtx_1980> #list
[19:14] <ClientAlive> ikonia: I have messed with CSS  little when I created a custom theme for eclipse
[19:14] <unborn> Fang, playonlinux support windows stuff even if they are not on list.. but crapware like itunes man I would suggest to you using windows installation as a virtual..
[19:14] <auronandace> !itunes | Fang
[19:14] <ClientAlive> ikonia: Just that I don't know what document to edit for this particular issue
[19:14] <ikonia> ClientAlive: I'm using it as an example of how hard it is to tell people how to change things in CSS if they have no idea what css is
[19:14] <alen> fang try: sudo apt-get install iTunes
[19:15] <ikonia> Fang: that won't work
[19:15] <ikonia> Fang: itunes is not available for linux
[19:15] <alen> oy
[19:15] <mtx_1980> hoow can i ask for help?
[19:15] <Fang> well I just need something that will put songs on my ipod since the default music player wont
[19:15] <alen> Mplayer?
[19:15] <ikonia> mtx_1980: just ask
[19:15] <alen> Try Mplayer mate
[19:15] <mtx_1980> ok
[19:15] <mtx_1980> t
[19:15] <auronandace> !ipod | Fang
[19:16] <mtx_1980> i need to install skype, but it dont appears on software center
[19:16] <ClientAlive> well I know what css is. I'm a comp sci student studying to become a developer for crip sake. I know C, C++, some Jave, HTML, some Javascript, and some CSS and XML.
[19:16]  * adam|away is now away: away from keyboard
[19:16]  * adam|x is back from: away from keyboard (been away for 1s)
[19:16] <auronandace> !skype | mtx_1980
[19:16] <unborn> ipod is horrible device.. nice android phone will play even oggs and have equalizer.. :)
[19:16] <caz> Hi there, does anyonw have an idea why my Ubuntu breaks when using separate x-screen (no DE working correctly, multiple systray, no power button, multiple screen selector...etc) and working when using twinview?
[19:16] <ikonia> !away > adam|x
[19:16] <ikonia> unborn: not interestd in a ipod review, thanks
[19:16] <ClientAlive> anyhow, thx tho
[19:16] <Fang> lol well I don't really have the money to just go get a new one lol
[19:16] <unborn> ikonia, didnt say single word to you
[19:16] <alen> Androis -> botnet
[19:17] <unborn> thanks
[19:17] <alen> *android
[19:17] <ikonia> alen: please stop talking nonsense
[19:17] <allie83> jrib: sorry am lost now ...have found files for my version ubuntu now what?
[19:17] <ikonia> unborn: the user didn't ask for an ipod review, he asked for a music play that will allow communication with his ipod
[19:17] <alen> b-but they collect a load of data, i saw on documentary about google, same as google chrome look it up
[19:17] <mtx-1980> i need to install skype, but it dont appears on software center
[19:17] <mtx-1980> i did on terminal e the server said dont exist
[19:17] <jrib> allie83: why aren't you using the hardware drivers tab in Software Sources?
[19:17] <ikonia> alen: please stop talking nonsense
[19:17] <unborn> ikonia, i am free to express my mind even if you dont like it
[19:17] <ikonia> unborn: actually you're not
[19:17] <ikonia> unborn: it's an ubuntu support channel.
[19:17] <caz> mtx-1980, You can find it on skype website
[19:17] <unborn> what is wrong with you ikonia
[19:17] <alen> that's why i use chromium, it's open source and maintained by community without all the private data gathering bs
[19:17] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: you could try grabbing the .debs for those packages (for your ubuntu version) and installing them with dpkg
[19:18] <mtx-1980> ok
[19:18] <mtx-1980> ty
[19:18] <DJones> !coc | unborn
[19:18] <allie83> jrib: b/c i don't know where that is
[19:18] <mtx-1980> i wiil try
[19:18] <adam|x> ikonia, ubottu, i saw it. my bad
[19:18] <ikonia> adam|x: no problem
[19:18] <Fang> thank yall for the help :)
[19:18] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: which ones?
[19:18] <unborn> okay i see :) moron simple.. im going back to debian channel.. cya! :)
[19:18] <adam|x> While I'm here, what's the consensus on the ubuntu phones?
[19:18] <jrib> Ephexeve_laptop: python python2.7 python-minimal and python2.7-minimal
[19:19] <caz> None has already encounter my issue?
[19:19] <jrib> allie83: you can run "software-properties-gtk" in a shell
[19:20] <ClientAlive> ahh screw it. I guess my question just isn't intersting or people don't 'feel' like addressing it. I know two programming languages proficiently, two scripting language pretty well, html xml and css. I WOULD UNDERSTAND.
[19:20] <ClientAlive> EFF IT
[19:20] <ikonia> ClientAlive: then read
[19:20] <ikonia> ClientAlive: if it's that simple - just read the doc and get a basic idea
[19:20] <allie83> jrib: sorry your beyond me now...i'm looking at this page https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers
[19:20] <ikonia> ClientAlive: and please cut out the "eff it" comments
[19:20] <ikonia> ClientAlive: you've been here enough time to know the rules
[19:21] <jrib> allie83: type "software-properties-gtk" in a terminal and press enter.  Then go to the "Additional Drivers" tab
[19:22] <ClientAlive> ikonia: so 1811 other people can ask thier questions and get information but I have to go read eh? And what, you speak for the other 1810 as well?
[19:22] <ClientAlive> I guess I"m not surprised
[19:22] <ikonia> ClientAlive: no, that's not what I said
[19:22] <ikonia> ClientAlive: you where complaining that no-one had answered and how skilled you where
[19:22] <allie83> jrib: software sources has opened but i don't see additional driver tab
[19:22] <ikonia> ClientAlive: it should be quite simple for you to read the skinning/theme docs and grasp it
[19:22] <ikonia> ClientAlive: then I'd be happy to answer and specific questions you have
[19:22] <jrib> allie83: what ubuntu version is this?
[19:22] <ClientAlive> I just have one question and I'm outa here. 'WHY WOULD I BE TREATED DIFFERENTLY THAN ANYONE ELSE HERE???'
[19:23] <allie83> jrib: 12.04 lts
[19:23] <alen> most recent?
[19:23] <ikonia> ClientAlive: you are not being treated different, please dump the caps
[19:23] <jrib> allie83: ok, run "jockey-gtk" then
[19:26] <Tex_Nick> 12.10 with gnome classic de ... i recently added a second monitor, it worked fine till i rebooted ... on reboot the bios POST is displayed on both monitors & GRUB is displayed on both monitors ... when it gets to the lightdm login, i loose one monitor ... at the desktop i have to use the "display settings" to toggle the inactive monitor off then back on ... what can i do to not have to go through that kludge ?
[19:26] <SunMoonStar> so for those who were helping me reinstall grub (if you're still here), when I boot from the HD, i just get a grub prompt
[19:27] <SunMoonStar> and have no idea what to type
[19:28] <caz> Tex_Nick, You would be glad that your 2nd monitor works... Mine does not...
[19:28] <Ascavasaion> I installed MAME in ubuntu... I was wondering if someone could tell me where to find MAME games for it now?
[19:28] <caz> Ascavasaion, On the internet dude ;)
[19:28] <ikonia> Ascavasaion: not something this channel would help you with
[19:29] <Ascavasaion> ikonia, oh... Um, any idea where I could ask?
[19:29] <ikonia> no
[19:29] <caz> Ascavasaion, Google has tons of answers... You would have a look on it
[19:30] <Ascavasaion> ikonia: Okies
[19:30] <Ascavasaion> caz: Thank you.
[19:31] <allie83> jrib: going to restart...fingers crossed brb
[19:31] <yumbo> hi, how do I enable vsync? (using intel graphics)
[19:32] <Tex_Nick> caz : did your second monitor work to start with ?
[19:36] <eanderson_> Other than the methods listed at http://www.webupd8.org/2012/11/how-to-use-multiple-monitors-in-xubuntu.html is there another way to make the xrandr configuration stick?
[19:37] <eanderson_> Sessions and startup seem to ignore the script i configured there.
[19:37] <eanderson_> speaking of that what file back the sessions and startup control applet?
[19:38] <allie83> jrib: i chose the recommended driver and still no video...what am i missing?
[19:43] <roach> how do i install java?
[19:43] <Myrtti> !java | roach
[19:43] <allie83> jrib: installed the recommended drivers and rebooted...still no video
[19:43] <Myrtti> roach: I prefer the webupd8 method, if you need the Oracle one. if not, openjdk one should do nicely
[19:44] <glenn_> need help with activating office 2010
[19:44] <ikonia> glenn_: ?
[19:44] <TheFlipside> hello?
[19:44] <glenn_> yes ikonia
[19:44] <TheFlipside> phew
[19:45] <ikonia> glenn_: can you expand on that ?
[19:45] <ikonia> glenn_: you know this is ubuntu - for ubuntu help?
[19:45] <piero> Do you know and trust privatetunnel.com ?
[19:45] <KromiX> u need help with activating office 2010?
[19:45] <KromiX> so why are u here ? :P
[19:45] <roach> Myrtti, what about 'Sun's JVM'?
[19:45] <glenn_> i now ikonia but i have installed office 2010
[19:45] <glenn_> by wine
[19:45] <TheFlipside> i dont trust anyone
[19:46] <Myrtti> roach: that's a bit on the old side now
[19:46] <jrib> allie83: don't know then
[19:46] <Myrtti> roach: that's basically replaced by Oracle Java since they bought Sun
[19:46] <TheFlipside> welcome to the news, 1 year ago
[19:46] <allie83> jrib: oh goodie....maybe now that ihave the correct driver i should remove and re-install jave and such?
[19:47] <KromiX> looks like activation fails via wine? http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=17336
[19:47] <eanderson_> damn you arandr!  I want the settings you make to be permanent!
[19:47] <KromiX> looks like maybe a workaround in the comments
[19:47] <KromiX> go try it
[19:48] <ikonia> glenn_: so you activate it the same as windows,
[19:48] <ikonia> glenn_: if there is something specific not working in wine #winehq may help
[19:49] <KromiX> glenn_ http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=17336
[19:51] <roach> thank you, Myrtti
[19:51] <jamesgcd> Hey guys, is anyone here able to help me out with an grub/installation problem involving UEFI at all? I'd be thankful for any assistance :)
[19:52] <multipack> if i can jamesgcd
[19:52] <multipack> hope i dont make a complete fool of myself lol
[19:53] <allie83> jrib: would it be better to download the file and install it myself thru the terminal?
[19:53] <Tex_Nick> 12.10 with gnome classic de ... i recently added a second monitor, it worked fine till i rebooted ... on reboot the bios POST is displayed on both monitors & GRUB is displayed on both monitors ... when it gets to the lightdm login, i loose one monitor ... at the desktop i have to use the "display settings" to toggle the inactive monitor off then back on ... what can i do to not have to go through that kludge ?
[19:53] <jamesgcd> well, thanks for offering multipack :). Basically, my laptop was updated to use UEFI once windows 8 was released, and I tried modifying windows 8 to use UEFI to boot to simplify installing various linux distributions (previously it booted with legacy bios support). Now though, I'm not offered the option to dualboot with ubuntu when installing it and I was wondering if you'd have any idea why ^_^?
[19:55] <alen> I have a strange issue with ubuntu, my laptop overheats and crashes easily on it wile it runs just fine on Vista?
[19:55] <alen> and has barely any heating on vista at all
[19:55] <alen> What can i do?
[19:55] <futa> just use vista
[19:56] <sddhrthrt> futa: ?!
[19:56] <tbruff13> I need help with kde 4.10
[19:56] <tbruff13> on Kubuntu I cannot move icons around
[19:56] <futa> is anyone in this session interested in ubuntu touch devices?
[19:56] <alen> b-but muh freedoms, i still want to stay on Ubuntu and know the reason behind the drastic overheating issues + eventual crashing
[19:56] <multipack> jamesgcd, what make of laptop?
[19:58] <futa> I can only use QML to develop apps for touch devices, and use only quickly to develop ubuntu apps, but as they say
[19:58] <joker_> i love python.
[19:58] <futa> the code is shared
[19:58] <jamesgcd> HP Pavillion dv6 - I feel like I should say this as its relevant to the problem: my BIOS has a "legacy mode", which lets it load operating systems which arent configured for UEFI. I still have to use this to load Windows 8 because if I load windows 8 without it, in UEFI modem it does load but bluescreens. I've essentially configured it to be abe to load through both but screwed up somewhere and I'm trying to avoid having to reinstal
[19:58] <DJones> futa: Try #ubuntu-touch thats the channel for phone & tablet devices
[19:58] <allie83> well that's nice....one thing didn't work so now i get no help at all...i appreciate your time jrib i see you've been busy but i'm still at square one and getting no more help...will figure it out on the my own i guess
[19:58] <recon_lap> alen: when it overheats are the fans running max or not running. are your temperature sensors setup correctly
[19:58] <alen> they are running on max
[19:59] <futa> thanks djones
[19:59] <alen> it's real strange
[19:59] <jrib> allie83: well did flash work in chrome when you tried it?
[20:00] <alen> where can I check my temperature sensors?
[20:00] <multipack> apt-get install lm-sensors then configure them
[20:00] <alen> i'm pretty certain the issue is due to ubuntu since as I mentioned on vista it just runs fine and doesn't overheat at all
[20:00] <alen> willdo multi thx
[20:00] <multipack> sudo sensors-detect and answer yes to everything
[20:01] <multipack> to read temps just type sensor
[20:01] <alen> ty! on it
[20:03] <multipack> jamesgcd, im searhing frantically but cant see a solution, i havent dual booted, but i had a nightmare getting ubuntu server installed with my new board, i had no experiance of uefi before
[20:04] <allie83> jrib:chrome msg: couldn't load shockwave
[20:04] <alen> no command sensor found? D:
[20:04] <jrib> allie83: how are you actually testing?  What site are you visiting?
[20:04] <jamesgcd> multipack, its okay if you can't find anything thanks for trying :). Admittedly, its going to be a rare problem since it only really effects hardware from 2010-2012 *AND* people who've upgraded from windows 7 to 8 *AND* tried to convert from using legacy booting to UEFI booting, thanks for all your help so far though ^_^
[20:05] <allie83> jrib: have checked video on youtube and games on facebook
[20:06] <jrib> allie83: give one specific site you are testing on chrome now
[20:06] <allie83> you tube
[20:06] <tbruff13> can someone help me please
[20:06] <jrib> allie83: and what happens at youtube?
[20:06] <jamesgcd> multipack as for your server, it shouldnt be too dissimilar to installing before UEFI - as long as theres only Ubuntu anyway ! if you have any specific problems I'll try help you search for them :p
[20:07] <allie83> jrib: i get the puzzle piece where video should be and msg couldn't load plugin
[20:07] <SonikkuAmerica> SunMoonStar: Regarding your issue
[20:07] <SunMoonStar> hi
[20:07] <multipack> alen  sudo apt-get install lm-sensors...sudo sensors-detect..answer y to everything then type sensors, if you get an error there is a bit of text you need to run if you get the sensors notfound error
[20:07] <jrib> allie83: and what happens in firefox when you visit youtube?
[20:07] <SonikkuAmerica> SunMoonStar: Does it look like grub> or grub rescue> ?
[20:07] <intrader> Good afternoon all - For some time my laptop has been overheating and shutting down (Lenovo t61p with Linux 12.10). I run Psensors (temp2 goes over 97C) and laptop shuts down. Problem showed up recently after an auto-update. by Update Manager. Application I am runing is a is firefox with any video clip (specially in full screen mode). Problem does not show up in Windows XP and FIrefox on same clip.
[20:07] <SunMoonStar> grub>
[20:07] <multipack> jamesgcd,  i had to make a efi boot partition before it would work
[20:08] <ZadYree> Question: I'm about to reinstall my system(keeping /home dir), but I'm using cryptsetup, which complicated the process. Any idea how to proceed?
[20:08] <allie83> jrib: black box where video should be but i have stills on the side of other videos...click on the,...black box where the video should be
[20:08] <SunMoonStar> SonikkuAmerica: I made some notes and I think that for /dev/sda4 is where linux is, I would need to do "root (hd0,3)" and then "kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda4" and then boot
[20:08] <CdK1> hi *
[20:08] <CdK1> any ideas with this xvba_video: driver does not support H.264
[20:08] <CdK1> ?
[20:08] <tbruff13> I can´t move the icons in kde 4.10 and I need help to figure out why
[20:09] <SunMoonStar> SonikkuAmerica: firstly I am not sure if that's right and secondly I wouldn't want to do that each time
[20:09] <SonikkuAmerica> SunMoonStar: Don't forget initrd
[20:09] <escott> jamesgcd, can you run "sudo parted -l"
[20:09] <SunMoonStar> oh yea, initrd /boot/<tab>
[20:09] <jrib> allie83: http://badgerbadgerbadger.com/ you see badgers here?
[20:09] <SunMoonStar> but would I have to do these each time? haven't tried these commands yet
[20:09] <SonikkuAmerica> SunMoonStar: Yeah, it's [ set root=(hd0,3) ] and then the commands you listed
[20:09] <alen> sensors works now thx!
[20:10] <alen> Core 0:       +73.0°C  (high = +105.0°C, crit = +105.0°C)
[20:10] <alen> Core 1:       +71.0°C  (high = +105.0°C, crit = +105.0°C)
[20:10] <escott> jamesgcd, if the install CD is booted in efi mode it looks only for a gpt partitioned disk. also in the installer check if /sys/firmware/ directory contains an efi/uefi directory
[20:10] <SonikkuAmerica> SunMoonStar: If no GRUB bootloader shows up
[20:10] <SunMoonStar> oh, set
[20:10] <alen> it's normal temperature now but Im sure it will heat up eventually
[20:10] <alen> and i don't know the reason D:
[20:10] <allie83> jrib: no badgers
[20:10] <multipack> alen its possessed !
[20:11] <SunMoonStar> so [ set root=(hd0,3) ] and then [ root (hd0,e ] again and etc..
[20:11] <leptone> does anyone know how i can highlight text and get text -to-speech like in OS X lion? 12.04
[20:11] <SunMoonStar> hd0,3)*
[20:11] <SunMoonStar> ?
[20:11] <jamesgcd> escott, I'll have to remake the liveDVD to try that unfortunately, though thats not really the problem. I'd happily now use the legacy boot mode just to have gotten ubuntu working, but that has the same problem. I've not got an issue with getting Ubuntu itself to work - the problem is doing it while getting windows 8 to also work since I need windows for compatibility reasons :p
[20:11] <alen> ._. what do
[20:11] <Inoki> Any Ubuntu Gamer here? Running Steam?
[20:11] <Physicist> What is the difference between: mp3, ogg, wav and flac?
[20:12] <alen> Inoki if you want to get tf2 hat just install google virtual machine then run ubuntu from there
[20:12] <allie83> jrib: in firefox or chromium...i must be missing something silly somewhere
[20:12] <alen> to get tux penguin if that's what you're most likely looking for
[20:12] <Inoki> alen: no thanks, I need to ask about mouse accel under Steam.
[20:12] <jamesgcd>  escott, in either legacy boot mode, or UEFI boot mode, Ubuntu/grub can't detect any other operating systems which is really inconvenient, though if I risk installing it anyway I could probably manually add windows to grub if it cant find it itself, do you think that'd work? (if I kept using legacy boot)
[20:12] <escott> Physicist, compressed with patents, compressed (better) without patents, raw uncompressed, lossless compression
[20:12] <alen> oh ok
[20:12] <jrib> allie83: apt-cache policy flashplugin-installer
[20:13] <dbe> Physicist, They are different types of audio encoding. mp3, ogg are different types of lossy compression codecs, flac is a lossless compression codec, and wav is raw.
[20:13] <Inoki> Is there anyone running Steam?
[20:13] <Physicist> What format is better? mp3, ogg, flac or wave?
[20:13] <dondy> is there a way to get the launcher bar to auto-hide reliably? (more often than not i have to mouse over it repeatedly so it shows) reveal sensitivity seems to be a no-op
[20:13] <dbe> Physicist, ogg.
[20:13] <Physicist> What format is better? mp3, ogg, flac or wave?
[20:13] <alen> multipack[A[A[A[A[ACore 0:       +73.0°C  (high = +105.0°C, crit = +105.0°C)
[20:13] <alen> Core 1:       +71.0°C  (high = +105.0°C, crit = +105.0°C)
[20:13] <bekks> !best | Physicist
[20:13] <escott> !best | Physicist
[20:13] <alen> multipac what can I do to reduce overheating on ubuntu ?
[20:13] <leptone> what is the best textToSpeech app for ubuntu 12.04? specifically for use in firefox.
[20:14] <Physicist> I want quality..
[20:14] <Physicist> I want quality..
[20:14] <escott> jamesgcd, we need some recon on what you have on the system. how is the disk partitioned. in what mode is the installer booting, in what mode is ubuntu booting
[20:14] <escott> Physicist, flac
[20:14] <Inoki> No Ubuntu gamers >.>
[20:14] <bekks> Physicist: Then use RAW Wave.
[20:14] <escott> Physicist, free LOSSLESS audio codec
[20:14] <jamesgcd> Inoki, whats your problem with steam?
[20:15] <Inoki> jamesgcd: Heya, well, I just need to check something with someone.
[20:15] <Inoki> jamesgcd: Just to be sure.
[20:15] <jamesgcd> inoki I dont have steam installed on ubuntu at the moment but I've gotten it working: whats the issue :p?
[20:16] <allie83> jrib: ran get update now it says The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available
[20:16] <Physicist> Thank you all. So flac and wav is best in quality..
[20:16] <jrib> allie83: what was the output from the command I gave?
[20:16] <Inoki> jamesgcd: Well, for this I believe it's a necessity to have it installed. I need to compare mouse settings, since I'm not sure is my issue DE specific. I basically need to check, that if one increases mouse acceleration under Unity if it works under Steam also, because for me, under Xfce 4.10 the accel works on desktop, but not under Steam.
[20:16] <jamesgcd> escott: /sda1 contains windows' boot partition, /sda2 contains windows itself. I'm aware for UEFI I need a partition containing boot data, but as I said, it would prevent me loading windows since it bluescreens with UEFI. If I bootup ubuntu either in legacy or UEFI mode, windows 8 doesn't appear as a detected OS
[20:16] <SonikkuAmerica> SunMoonStar: No, just [ set root=(hd0,3) ], then the [ linux ... ] command, then the [ initrd ... ] command, then [ boot ]
[20:17] <SonikkuAmerica> SunMoonStar: (Pardon my lateness)
[20:17] <escott> jamesgcd, could you please just run sudo parted -l
[20:17] <SunMoonStar> by linux.. command do you mean kernel /boot command
[20:17] <allie83> jrib: flashplugin-installer:
[20:17] <allie83>   Installed: 11.2.202.270ubuntu0.12.04.1
[20:17] <allie83>   Candidate: 11.2.202.270ubuntu0.12.04.1
[20:17] <allie83>   Version table:
[20:17] <allie83>  *** 11.2.202.270ubuntu0.12.04.1 0
[20:17] <allie83>         500 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates/multiverse i386 Packages
[20:17] <allie83>         500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-security/multiverse i386 Packages
[20:17] <FloodBot1> allie83: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:17] <dbe> Physicist, flac has lossless compression, same quality. They require some harddrive though, audiofiles tend to be large when uncompressed.
[20:17] <SonikkuAmerica> !pastebin | allie83
[20:17] <jamesgcd> Inoki: ah no, steam games may or may not use your desktop preferences. It depends on the game: some games might have an option to fix that, others don't. For example, team fortress 2 I think has an option to use either the desktop environment settings or read them directly from X
[20:18] <jamesgcd> Inoki: its an issue with linux gaming in general, not just with steam
[20:18] <allie83> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5562776/
[20:18] <Physicist> dbe: Thank you. Understood.
[20:18] <allie83> sorry..forgot about pastebin
[20:18] <SonikkuAmerica> allie83: I have a workaround if you're getting the "flashplugin-installer wants additional data downloads" thing
[20:18] <jrib> allie83: you should fix the issues with your sources
[20:19] <Inoki> jamesgcd: thanks a lot! I believe this has to be fixed from Steam's side then. I thought, that maybe changing DEs would help.
[20:19] <loticdescant77> Hi guys, does anyone know of a room where I can get help installing calibre combined tools for linux?
[20:19] <jamesgcd> Escott, sorry, I'll have to do it later because I dont have the livecd with me at the moment :(! Thanks for your advice though, I'll note it down and if I'm here later and youre still willing to help I'll go ahead and do that ;)
[20:19] <allie83> jrib: what do you mean by that
[20:19] <jrib> loticdescant77: calibre is in the repositories
[20:19] <SonikkuAmerica> allie83: Run [ software-properties-gtk ]
[20:19] <newbie-4th-day> hey :) how can i nstall ubuntu in a USb Flash drive ... ?
[20:19] <alen> where do i disable the unity desktop environment I think it is the cause of overheating my laptop
[20:19] <Physicist> I am extracting some classical music from cd's.. The original format is wav, but, I have some choices.
[20:19] <loticdescant77> jrib, I successfully installed calibre, but need to install the combined tools.
[20:20] <SonikkuAmerica> allie83: (Run [ software-properties-kde ] if you have Kubuntu)
[20:20] <jrib> allie83: you mentioned that there were issues with keys/signatures and your pastebin indicates duplicate lines in your repository sources
[20:20] <jrib> loticdescant77: what are these?
[20:20] <jamesgcd> newbie-4th-day : I'd recommend using the program you can download here - http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ - it'll configure your USB stick to be able to load a distribution of your choice
[20:21] <loticdescant77> jrib they are tools that help with conversion of ebooks from one vendor to another.
[20:21] <ckoch786> Does anyone know how I can install emacs in 9.10? I would upgrade but I cannot because it is the version we use at work and upgrading breaks the build
[20:21] <jrib> loticdescant77: do they have a homepage?
[20:21] <newbie-4th-day> jamesgcd: i ll check this .. Thx
[20:21] <Physicist> I will extract files from 14 cd's.. Lots classical musics!
[20:21] <alen> Core 0:       +80.0°C  (high = +105.0°C, crit = +105.0°C)
[20:21] <alen> what do????
[20:21] <allie83> jrib:software sources open...what do i choose now? or do i insert my cd-rom
[20:21] <alen> it raised a LOT
[20:21] <ikonia> ckoch786: you'll have to use the old-releases.ubuntu.com archive repo
[20:22] <jrib> allie83: you mentioned that there were issues with keys/signatures and your pastebin indicates duplicate lines in your repository sources
[20:22] <loticdescant77> Jrib, this is the site I got the info from - http://apprenticealf.wordpress.com/2012/09/
[20:22] <escott> Physicist, sound-juicer can extract straight to flac
[20:22] <jamesgcd> Inoki: It would be good if valve could configure steam to do that but with all the desktop environments available it is a bit of a hassle, its also something which needs to be fixed more on a game-by-game basis I think. If youre able to change the default X server values for your acceleration it might help, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mouse_acceleration#In_xorg_configuration may be of assistance if you want to do that
[20:22] <satellit_e> usb-creator-gtk  "startup disk creator" in ubuntu also works for USB
[20:23] <allie83> jrib: allie83: you mentioned that there were issues with keys/signatures and your pastebin indicates duplicate lines in your repository sources....???
[20:23] <jrib> allie83: what is your question?
[20:24] <Physicist> escott: Well, I'm using Kubuntu, and have K3b, I think excellent and can extract in flac format too.
[20:24] <allie83> jrib: what did this mean that there are duplicates.
[20:24] <jrib> allie83: it means you have a repository line listed multiple times
[20:24] <allie83> jrib: and how is this corrected
[20:24] <jrib> allie83: remove the duplicates and leave only one
[20:24] <Inoki> jamesgcd: I've tried xset m <value> <value> but to no avail also. Steam simply ignores desktop settings, hence my question, if maybe Unity would work better.
[20:24] <allie83> jrib: and how do i do this?
[20:25] <Inoki> jamesgcd: Because it's obvious if Steam would be optimized, then for Unity, since that's Ubuntu's default desktop.
[20:25] <jrib> allie83: find the duplicates in /etc/apt/sources.list* and edit the files as needed.  I don't know if you can do this through the gui.  You can try using the gui first
[20:25] <allie83> jrib: thru my terminal?
 how do I use it?
[20:26] <jrib> allie83: only if you prefer
[20:26] <allie83> remember im a newbie so some of this is going way over my head
[20:26] <nicolenicole> I am having a great difficulty installing or running Ubuntu Studio 12.10 from live DVD on Windows 8 Pro 64-bit with UEFI.  I cannot run the live DVD nor can I install from disc or from Wubi.exe.  Any suggestions?
[20:27] <jrib> loticdescant77: well that site seems to link to a tar.gz for the tools.  So you can look inside and see if it has instructions.  And more importantly, look inside to see what is actually included and see if they're available in the repositories
[20:27] <newbie-4th-day> jamesgcd:  actually unebootin do the same as the startup Disk creator ... it create a live USb .. instead of a live CD! and what i'm looking for is to install it in the USB flash  like if i installed in da hard drive
[20:27] <Inoki> jamesgcd: And you're definitely right, that supporting all the DE environments, since new ones can emerge anytime, would be a bit of a hassle.
[20:27] <Atlantic777> Does anyone know any alternative to wicd? I need cli network manager capable of using wpa2 secured networks. I just can't play with wpa_supplicant manually and wicd doesn't work.
[20:27] <allie83> jrib: where do i find /etc/apt/sources.list*
[20:27] <escott> nicolenicole, i would not expect wubi to work
[20:27] <jrib> allie83: did you conclude you can't remove duplicates through the gui?
[20:27] <jamesgcd> Inoki : true, but the problem isn't steams fault. The game is responsible for retrieving settings itself, steam is only responsible for installing the game. It'd be comparable to blaming the software center for installing a program which didnt do what you wanted to, you could always try installing unity anyway, you wouldnt need to reinstall, it only requires installing a few packages
[20:28] <escott> nicolenicole, i would recommend either a real install or virtualbox
[20:28] <allie83> jrib: i don't know how to find gui
[20:28] <loticdescant77> jrib, i'll check the repositories. I downloaded the zip file and read the readme file, but the instructions for linux were missing and/or incomplete. But I'll check the repos.
[20:28] <nicolenicole> I have 100 GB set aside for a new partition, but I cannot even run the live DVD much less get to the Ubuntu installer
[20:29] <nicolenicole> when I select boot drom disc on BIOS it goes to a blank screen
[20:29] <Inoki> jamesgcd: Yer, but generally it's not a good idea to mix libraries, even if they are similar. Installing Unity is a matter of minutes, so do you suggest, that for best support one should install the main edition?
[20:29] <ckoch786> do I just add deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/karmic/ karmic main restricted to my sources.list?
[20:29] <jamesgcd> newbie-4th-day thats true, they do the same thing but Unetbootin is cross platform and easier to work with in my opinion. You can actually use both or either, its your choice! if you want persistant storage on the USB, I know unetbootin can set that up, I'm not sure about the usb-drive-creator
[20:29] <nicolenicole> *boot from disc
[20:29] <jrib> allie83: software-properties-gtk is the gui for manipulating software sources
[20:29] <SunMoonStar> I did a fsck yesterday and it fixed some bad sectors. Is it possible it was a fluke or should I for sure just get a new hard drive?
[20:29] <allie83> jrib: software sources?
[20:29] <linusoleander> I've this cron job: https://gist.github.com/oleander/4b990bb010eeba134ade
[20:29] <linusoleander> Why is stuff begin printed to stdout?
[20:30] <satellit_e> startup-disk-creator will do perstent usb also (only for ubuntu.iso's)
[20:30] <linusoleander> Have I missed something?
[20:30] <jamesgcd> Inoki: and yes/no. In theory it would work like that with Unity being the best desktop for anything due to popularity, in practice I think that doesnt work out, and that Unity with compiz is more likely to slow games down than it is to make them any better - although apparently 13.04 has reduced that issue dramaticallty
[20:30] <jrib> allie83: repositories.  Where apt/synaptic/software manager get their software
[20:30] <nicolenicole> has anyone else installed Ubuntu Studio 12.10 64-bit to Windows 8 Pro 64-bit with UEFI?  Window 8 seems to be using 3 partitions on a GPT partition table.
[20:31] <jrib> linusoleander: stderr still gets printed
[20:31] <Inoki> jamesgcd: when is 13.04 scheduled to arrive? April?
[20:31] <sSs> !seen scarecrow
[20:31] <linusoleander> jrib: Yes, I know. But right now stdout is begin printed
[20:31] <linusoleander> I get emails about it every day
[20:32] <escott> nicolenicole, you might try to disable secure boot
[20:32] <jrib> linusoleander: depends on "do-stuff" I guess
[20:32] <nicolenicole> secure boot is disabled
[20:32] <allie83> jrib: where do i find these repositories? in the software sources window?
[20:32] <jamesgcd> Inoki: yeah, every Ubuntu release occurs in april and october.
[20:32] <linusoleander> jrib: do-stuff only prints to stdout
[20:32] <jrib> allie83: they're what you see listed in the software sources window, yes
[20:32] <jrib> linusoleander: if you say so
[20:32] <jamesgcd> inoki: although if you were willing to try the beta, the 13.04 beta ISO should be released on march 14th if I recall correctly.
[20:33] <newbie-4th-day> jamesgcd: ok now i have  the live Usb created (with  persistance as u noticed ) :)
[20:33] <allie83> jrib: i have that window up ....ubuntu softare tab is showing
[20:33] <Inoki> jamesgcd: Some are already using it. But beta is beta, I intend to have a bug-free distro installed.
[20:33] <jrib> linusoleander: you should just pastebin do-stuff and pastebin what you are actually seeing that you don't expect
[20:33] <jrib> allie83: ok
[20:33] <escott> !nomodeset | nicolenicole
[20:34] <allie83> jrib: what do i do from here
[20:34] <jamesgcd> newbie-4th-day : a thing to worry about is the persistant storage is for ANY changes. For example, if you update a program, the space used up will be part of the persistant storage space. I wouldnt really recommend upgrading a USB drive with persistent storage.
[20:34] <Inoki> jamesgcd: I think I'll install the main edition, just for the sake of better support. Since I figured the main edition is the one they focus at most.
[20:34] <nicolenicole> it's an HP laptop, manufactured 2011, AMD graphics
[20:34] <jrib> ckoch786: depends on what you want to accomplish.  What do you want to accomplish?
[20:34] <nicolenicole> *2012
[20:34] <jrib> allie83: you can look for duplicates and remove them.  Like I said, I don't know if you can do that from the gui (i.e. I don't know if duplicates are actually displayed)
[20:35] <sumit> hi
[20:35] <jamesgcd> Inoki: and thats a fair point, and Unity does look rather pretty :). You can always upgrade to 13.04 when it comes out if you install the main edition today, or reinstall later if you wanted to. If you have enough time, you could really just keep messing around and find what works best for you
[20:35] <ckoch786> jrib: I just want to install GNU Emacs in 9.10
[20:35] <nicolenicole> hmmm that might be the issue, I'll try that, thanks, so you do not think it has to do with the UEFI firmware?
[20:36] <allie83> jrib: they are shown under other software tab.....some say main some say main (source code) which one do i get rid of?
[20:36] <jrib> ckoch786: you know 9.10 is no longer supported (this means no security updates for example)?  You should upgrade
[20:36] <Inoki> jamesgcd: To me best support matters most. And since Unity is the main edition, it will be the main focus. They started out with Steam on 12.04 so I suppose they intend to work with it closely.
[20:36] <linusoleander> jrib: Found it. I had a debug message that printed an empty string to stderr. Thanks :)
[20:36] <jrib> allie83: the duplicates
[20:36] <jrib> linusoleander: no problem ;)
[20:37] <allie83> jrib: which on is the dup....main or main source code?
[20:37] <jrib> allie83: since they are not the same, they are not duplicates
[20:37] <Eagleman> I am trying to virtualize my complete ubuntu-server enviroment using kvm, i used clonezilla to duplicate my physical machine and copy it to the new guest OS, but when i start the guest OS my hypervisor becomes really slow, all i am able to do is login on the hypervisor but then the connections gets dropped, i did checked for duplicate ip address and there are none that are shared, any idea what
[20:37] <Eagleman> could be the issue?
[20:37] <leptone> can someone please help me setup festival? I'm getting this erroe festival> (SayText "Hello")
[20:37] <leptone> ESD: error writing - Bad file descriptor
[20:37] <leptone> #<Utterance 0x7f86a2185430>
[20:37] <nicolenicole> I've tried installing both with UEFI and also in legacy mode with UEFI disabled
[20:37] <ckoch786> jrib: Yes I know, we are still using at work and upgrading breaks the build
[20:38] <jrib> ckoch786: your line looked right.  You may want to add multiverse and universe too
[20:38] <jamesgcd> Inoki: True, if stability is your main concern 12.04 is probably best. The only thing I feel like would be important if you do choose to update is that you wouldn't be able to go from 12.04 -> 13.04 in a single upgrade procedure, you'd need to go from 12.04 -> 12.10 -> 13.04, you can however jump from long term supports to the next in one upgrade
[20:38] <newbie-4th-day> jamesgcd: ok :)  so now i have 8Go live  usb Flash  with 2Go persistance !  should i reboot and boot from the USB ?  i think..
[20:38] <dimanix> bonjour j aimerais jouer a quake 3 arena avec un pote qui est sur windows comment on fais pour avoir tout les dossier et les metre sous reseau ?
[20:39] <dimanix> bonjour j aimerais jouer a quake 3 arena avec un pote qui est sur windows comment on fais pour avoir tout les dossier et les metre sous reseau ?
[20:39] <jrib> allie83: if you don't see duplicates, then you should say so and we can just do it manually.
[20:39] <jrib> !fr | dimanix
[20:39] <Inoki> jamesgcd: I always re-install to avoid upgrade issues :) Thanks for all your valuable support. It is much appreciated :) burning the main edition to USB now.
[20:39] <allie83> jrib: alright...well then how do i do that?
[20:40] <leptone> following this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TextToSpeech i get this: festival> (SayText "Hello")
[20:40] <leptone> ESD: error writing - Bad file descriptor
[20:40] <leptone> #<Utterance 0x7f86a2185430>
[20:40] <leptone> festival>
[20:40] <leptone>  can anyone help?
[20:40] <FloodBot1> leptone: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:40] <jrib> allie83: pastebin the output of « more /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*.list} | cat »
 I did but when I update I get this http://pastebin.com/urWvEv6F
[20:40] <Ephexeve_laptop> jrib: I fixec it, but now for example, many things gives me command not found, for example, I reinstalled redis-server, and when I type rqworker, it gives me command not found
[20:40] <jamesgcd> newbie-4th-day yeah, you can reboot into it and it'll save whatever changes you make (although it may warn you that it wont when you turn it off as persistence isnt used by default, but you can ignore that). Just remember as I said ANY change is saved to persistence, so firefox's cache will use persistent space, updates will, your documents will, everything will. Space can run out very quickly
[20:41] <jrib> ckoch786: old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu instead of what you had
[20:41] <ckoch786> here is the contents of my sources list http://pastebin.com/4VT1x2hf
[20:41] <jrib> ckoch786: (for the uri)
[20:42] <jamesgcd> Inoki: no problem. Hopefully soon gaming on Ubuntu will feel natural and desktop environments will get the interoperability thing working right - but for now things as they are, are going in the right direction :).
[20:43] <allie83> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5562857/
[20:43] <newbie-4th-day> jamesgcd:  i ll reboot , install irssi, and join this channel to tell me what's next
[20:43] <ckoch786> jrib: that fixed it thanks!
[20:43] <jrib> ckoch786: no problem
[20:43] <Novus> hey what is the best video broadcasting software for ubuntu?
[20:44] <lavigne> Bonjour j'ai la version libreoffice 1:3.6.r-rc2-0 de ubuntu depuis 3 semaines ne se load plus est-ce que quelqu'un a le même problème?
[20:44] <jamesgcd> Novus: How many people will you be broadcasting to, will it be a live stream, and is there any other specific requirements you'd need?
[20:44] <MasterOfDisaster> !fr | lavigne
[20:44] <leptone> how can i make orca use the festival synthesizer?
[20:45] <Novus> Live and prolly more then 1000
[20:45] <jrib> allie83: you have partner listed twice (once in sources.list and once in a file in sources.list.d)
[20:45] <SonikkuAmerica> !poll | Novua
[20:45] <SonikkuAmerica> !poll | Novus
[20:45] <Novus> HD quality
[20:45] <SonikkuAmerica> !polls | Novus
[20:45] <aPpYe> uh ... my kubuntu just stated that 13.04 was available.  I have had only quantal in my sources.list for some weeks...
[20:45] <allie83> jrib: ok...so what does this mean and how do i fix it?
[20:45] <jrib> aPpYe: if you didn't launch update-manager with any switches, file a bug
[20:46] <jamesgcd> Novus: you'll have a server to do that right? Thats probably the most important question at the moment
[20:46] <Novus> yup
[20:46] <Novus> I like this software
[20:46] <Novus> http://www.vidblaster.com/products/broadcast.html
[20:46] <jrib> allie83: comment the line "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu precise partner" in your sources.list
[20:46] <Novus> but that is for windows
[20:46] <FloodBot1> Novus: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:46] <lavigne> I have a problem with libreoffice version 1:3.6.2-rc2-0 ubuntu it does not for the last 3 weeks anyone as the same problem
[20:46] <SonikkuAmerica> aPpYe: That doesn't mean a thing... sounds like the first consumer-available update is available
[20:46] <elisa87> Do you know what I should do? error: /home/jalal/NVIDIA_GPU_Computing_SDK/C/lib/libcutil_x86_64.a: not an object or archive
[20:47] <leptone> does anyone know how to make the festival synthesizer usable in Orca?
[20:47] <allie83> jrib: im still not sure of what youre saying to do
[20:47] <jrib> allie83: run the command « gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list » go to the line I said and put a '#' symbol in front of it
[20:48] <aPpYe> SonikkuAmerica, so everyone will be gettign this prompt?
[20:48] <jamesgcd> Novus: to be honest I'd probably recommend finding a web service to do that for you - I'm actually unsure for your specific situation what to recommend as I've never had to stream to such a big audience and typically used VLC when I did: http://www.area536.com/projects/streaming-video/ might give you some ideas but someone else here may be able to help :)
[20:48] <SonikkuAmerica> aPpYe: If you have "any new version" marked in your software properties
[20:49] <SonikkuAmerica> aPpYe: And not running 12.04 LTS
[20:49] <aPpYe> SonikkuAmerica, aaah.  I thought it was only stable releases.
[20:50] <loticdescant77> jrib, thanks...in the end I figured out what I was doing wrong. I kind of needed to extract the zip file. Duh...anyhow, fyi it was super easy once I did that. :) Thanks.
[20:50] <SonikkuAmerica> aPpYe: Typically they are... but even then, I think there are bugs in the sfotware channels themselves.
[20:50] <SonikkuAmerica> aPpYe: I woke to a VERY beta release of 12.04 when I upgraded from 11.10
[20:50] <soc> ciao a tutti
[20:51] <allie83> jrib: inserted # now what? save?
[20:51] <jrib> allie83: yeah
[20:51] <soc> list
[20:51] <soc> !list
[20:51] <allie83> jrib: done...what next?
[20:51] <jrib> allie83: run « sudo apt-get update » and make sure it doesn't complain about duplicates anymore
[20:52] <soc> list!
[20:52] <Eagleman> I am trying to virtualize my complete ubuntu-server enviroment using kvm, i used clonezilla to duplicate my physical machine and copy it to the new guest OS, but when i start the guest OS my hypervisor becomes really slow, all i am able to do is login on the hypervisor but then the connections gets dropped, i did checked for duplicate ip address and there are none that are shared, any idea what
[20:52] <Eagleman> could be the issue?
[20:52] <leptone> does anyone know how to make orca use festival?
[20:53] <MasterOfDisaster> Eagleman: sure you got enough memory?
[20:53] <Eagleman> MasterOfDisaster, 8GB on Hypervisor, 4 GB on Guest OS,  With my current host on a reboot i'm around 2 GB
[20:53] <rushboy> Hello , I am new to ubuntu . Why are files automatically created in the same directory with the suffix '~' whenever I make changes to the files in ubuntu ? Any help on this is highly appreciated :-)
[20:54] <allie83> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5562898/
[20:54] <newbie-4th-day> jamesgcd:  i'm here .
[20:54] <MasterOfDisaster> rushboy: depends on the editor used. you need to check its settings.
[20:55] <jrib> allie83: good, now you should sort out the key issues.  How did you add the PPAs you have in the first place?
[20:55] <rushboy> MasterOfDisaster, I use gedit
[20:55] <InspectorCluseau> rushboy,  backup file
[20:55] <allie83> jrib: ppa's?
[20:55] <jamesgcd> newbie-4th-day : oh hi x). Is the usb working well for you?
[20:55] <jrib> !ppa | allie83
[20:55] <jrib> allie83: you have several enabled
[20:55] <MasterOfDisaster> Eagleman: is the hypervisor under load? check with the usual suspects (top, iotop, vmstat, ...)
[20:56] <newbie-4th-day> jamesgcd: yeah thX for your help
[20:56] <Eagleman> MasterOfDisaster, hard to check when i am unable to connect to the hypervisor :P
[20:56] <allie83> jrib: if you mean installing adobe and flash and such i used the ubuntu software add remover program
[20:56] <rushboy> InspectorCluseau, okay . But if I delete them manually they re-appear again after I edit the files . So I suppose they should not .
[20:57] <Eagleman> MasterOfDisaster, I dont think its a load issue but a network issue, trying to find out what could be giving me problems
[20:57] <MasterOfDisaster> Eagleman: get physical access then. remote diagnosis this way is hard, even with a crystal ball.
[20:57] <InspectorCluseau> rushboy,  everytime you alter a file the old file is saved
[20:57] <InspectorCluseau> rushboy,  a 'just in case' file
[20:57] <MasterOfDisaster> Eagleman: well, you got to provide more data on your configuration then.
[20:58] <jrib> allie83: no, you have several PPAs enabled.  You can see the files for them in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/. For example, you have webupd8team-java-precise, nilarimogard-webupd8-precise, and others
[20:59] <jrib> allie83: you also have 3rd party repisottires like medibuntu.  If you added them but didn't add the gpg key for them to apt, then that's why you would see the warnings you are getting with apt-get update
[21:00] <allie83> jrib: i honestly don't remember adding medibuntu ..but anything like this i did thru the terminal
[21:00] <blanketop> Hello, I'm trying to dual-boot Ringtail on a Macbook 9,1 from an external drive
[21:00] <Eagleman> MasterOfDisaster, here is some information about the network:  http://pastebin.com/LtDmzXVV
[21:01] <ikonia> blanketop: 13.04 is not supported yet
[21:01] <ikonia> Eagleman: what's your actual problem
[21:01] <jrib> allie83: if you use the terminal, you should use add-apt-repository to add a ppa since it will import the key automatically
[21:01] <blanketop> Well, I already tried 12.xx
[21:01] <Eagleman> MasterOfDisaster, i guess as soon as the network starts on the guest OS i am having problems connecting to the hypervisor, ikonia
[21:01] <ikonia> Eagleman: please define "having problem"
[21:01] <blanketop> It says 'booting the kernel' and then seems to hang.
[21:02] <ikonia> blanketop: 13.04 is not supported yet
[21:02] <Eagleman> Pinging and traceroute works fine and login in ssh also, however when i want to type commands using ssh it gets diconnected ikonia
[21:02] <ikonia> Eagleman: does this happen when there are no guests running, or all the time
[21:02] <blanketop> very well, I'll try Pangolin again
[21:02] <Eagleman> ikonia, only when the duplicated hypervisor ( the guest ) is running
[21:02] <allie83> jrib: i'll be honest..i'm totally lost atm....i guess i've done things i shouldn't have and have made a mess of my system
[21:03] <ikonia> Eagleman: duplicated hypervisor ? you can only have 1 hypervisor
[21:03] <Eagleman> I bassicly used clonezilla to create the exact same machine, changed some settings to get it working
[21:03] <allie83> jrib: i hate being a 1/2 assed newbie
[21:03] <jrib> allie83: nah, no mess.  But you need to decide whether you want to just remove each ppa (there are 3 of them) or trust the key for it
[21:03] <ikonia> Eagleman: so when you start the guest, the host connection disconnects /
[21:03] <ikonia> ?
[21:03] <allie83> jrib: what would you do...lol
[21:04] <Eagleman> ikonia, i copied the HOST with clonezilla and extracted it in a VM, so i have 2 identical machines
[21:04] <Eagleman> ikonia, yes
[21:04] <Eagleman> Could this be hostname related?
[21:04] <ikonia> Eagleman: ok, can you connect to the guest ?
[21:04] <jrib> allie83: it's up to you.  If you use the PPAs then you should add their keys.  If you don't use the PPAs, then not much point in keeping them around
[21:04] <Eagleman> ikonia, yes, and partial to the HOST also
[21:04] <ikonia> Eagleman: it could be anything, you need to work it through
[21:04] <ikonia> Eagleman: "partial" to the host ? please be clear
[21:04] <lukas_> hi there ... i#ve a question to mencoder (not sure if i'm right here) a made i video with recordmydesktop(20fps) und tried to mencode it to *.avi with the command mentioned here http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/recordMyDesktop ... the problem is -> the video is faster than the sound
[21:04] <Eagleman> ikonia, i just explianed the issue with the ssh
[21:05] <ikonia> Eagleman: right, that's not partial connection
[21:05] <Eagleman> Pinging and traceroute works fine and login in ssh also, however when i want to type commands using ssh it gets diconnected ikonia
[21:05] <dio_> hello
[21:05] <allie83> jrib: well I'm not exactly sure what i've got going and whether or not i really need them...i really would just like to have my video working
[21:05] <ikonia> Eagleman: what network address is the host using
[21:05] <Eagleman> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/LtDmzXVV
[21:05] <jrib> allie83: this won't help you with the video either way :/
[21:06] <ikonia> Eagleman: what ip address are you trying to connect to when you connect to the host
[21:06] <allie83> jrib: well then what's it matter if i keep them or not
[21:06] <Eagleman> ikonia, HOST/Hypervisor: 192.168.1.10     Guest OS: 192.168.1.15
[21:06] <jrib> allie83: for each ppa, you should either add the key or remove the ppa altogether
[21:06] <dio_> i want to make a Linux server for home use  any idea for manual ?
[21:06] <ikonia> Eagleman: why does your guest OS have virtual interfaces
[21:07] <ikonia> Eagleman: why do they have IP conflicts
[21:07] <ikonia> Eagleman: why does your guest OS have tun interfaces
[21:07] <Eagleman> ikonia, its for openvpn
[21:07] <ikonia> Eagleman: you have IP conflicts
[21:07] <allie83> jrib: then how do i add the key? and if they won't fix the video i don't think i need them then..especially if i don't understand what they are exactly
[21:07] <Eagleman> ikonia, which interfaces>?
[21:07] <ikonia> Eagleman: virbr0
[21:08] <notluke> Anyone have a suggestion for a lightweight way to send mail from cron jobs/scripts that wouldn't necessitate installing exim/sendmail/postfix/etc?
[21:08] <Eagleman> ikonia, its a virtual private network,
[21:08] <dio_> #debian
[21:08] <ikonia> Eagleman: it's still a conflict as both the host and guest are on the same network with the same address
[21:09] <jrib> allie83: you can add a key with « sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys PUBKEY_ID » where PUBKEY_ID is that long string like "D834D91FA49CCDDB" that you see in each error.  You can remove the ppa through the gui or just delete the right .list file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ and then run « sudo apt-get update »
[21:09] <ikonia> Eagleman: br0 also has the same interface
[21:09] <ikonia> Eagleman: you have 3 interfaces sharing the same IP
[21:10] <Shadkowz> Hello
[21:10] <allie83> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5562963/
[21:11] <Eagleman> ikonia, i fixed the virb0 interface, however i dont see a duplicated br0 interface
[21:11] <jrib> allie83: you need to replace PUBKEY_ID with a pubkey id if that's what you want to do
[21:11] <ikonia> Eagleman: br0 is 192.168.100.1 - the same as the two conflicting virbr0
[21:12] <Eagleman> inet addr:192.168.1.100
[21:12] <allie83> jrib: where do i find the pubkey id?
[21:12] <jrib> allie83: you can add a key with « sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys PUBKEY_ID » where PUBKEY_ID is that long string like "D834D91FA49CCDDB" that you see in each error.  You can remove the ppa through the gui or just delete the right .list file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ and then run « sudo apt-get update »
[21:12] <ikonia> Eagleman: sorry, miss-read
[21:13] <allie83> jrib: oh...i see...let me try.... i must say im not a computer geek ( no offense) and am 4 months pregnant...am on the verge of tears just wanting to get this to work
[21:14] <jrib> allie83: ok well relax and have some ice cream... I'm in the mood for some myself
[21:14] <allie83> jrib: lol....maybe some pickles :P
[21:15] <Eagleman> ikonia, duplicate things should be solved now, also changed the hostname to be sure
[21:15] <num7> hello, does someone know a command to figure out the info of the cpu?
[21:15] <ikonia> num7: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[21:15] <ikonia> Eagleman: does your cpu have VT enabled ?
[21:16] <Eagleman> ikonia, VT-x yes, i do not have support for vt-d
[21:16] <ikonia> Eagleman: make sure your host is not struggling with load
[21:16] <num7> ikonia: Thanks man
[21:16] <allie83> jrib: i don't know if i did this right
[21:17] <allie83> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5562982/
[21:19] <jrib> allie83: you made a typo (the D at the end should be a C).  You should just copy and paste
[21:19] <Tex_Nick> allie83 : put those pickles on the ice cream jrib just sent you @^@
[21:20] <Eagleman> ikonia, its not a load issue
[21:20] <allie83> jrib: so that key is fixed now
[21:20] <newbie-4th-day> jamesgcd: i sticked another usb flashand i followed the normal install process  ( installing it in this new USB flash) let's see what will happen ..   --"
[21:20] <allie83> jrib: now i need to go back and fix the other just the same..?
[21:20] <allie83> tex_nick: thanks :)
[21:20] <mtadyshak> ubuntu 10.04.4lts dell inspiron 17r 5720 model.  no vga out.  cannot detect monitor (acer s230hl)
[21:21] <Tex_Nick> ;-)
[21:21] <Eagleman> ikonia, 2513/7898 MB RAM, 3% load CPU
[21:21] <jrib> allie83: sure
[21:21] <radiohead> hi folks, iv just installed a second hard drive onto my system ... how can I see if its working in Ubuntu? do I need to mount it ?
[21:21] <jamesgcd> newbie-4th-day did the previous usb installation not work? Or are you trying to do something different?
[21:21] <ikonia> Eagleman: next look at your routing
[21:21] <radiohead> it came from my mothers windows machine... I want to get some files off it before I format it and put it bk in her machine
[21:23] <Eagleman> ikonia, the ssh connection to my host is extremly slow, but it didnt disconnect yet,  http://pastebin.com/du9yrTDw
[21:24] <ikonia> Eagleman: your client is on the 192.168.1.0 network, correct ?
[21:24] <Eagleman> yes
[21:24] <ikonia> Eagleman: you've got two routes for the 192.168.1.0 network,
[21:25] <ikonia> Eagleman: that maybe why you are slow / dropping connections
[21:25] <ikonia> Eagleman: you've also got no default gateway on your host
[21:25] <allie83> jrib: alright i fixed the other 2 ppa's    what's next
[21:25] <Eagleman> ikonia, which one do you suggect deleting, the bridged one or eth1?
[21:26] <ikonia> Eagleman: I don't know your setup so can't comment, but the lack of default gateway is probably ok, but not good, but your routing conflict for 192.168.1.0 is a problem you'll need to work through
[21:26] <jrib> ls -l /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so
[21:26] <jrib> allie83: ls -l /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so
[21:27] <allie83> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5563007/
[21:27] <jrib> allie83: what extensions do you have in firefox?
[21:28] <newbie-4th-day> jamesgcd: it worked  but didn't like! it's all about tying ubuntu ; i have to above the installation autorun each time i connect ! so now im installing ubuntu in a new usb flash by creating a new partition table inti it .. for '/ ',, ' /home'  and ' swap'
[21:28] <laura__> hola alguien que me pueda asesoro un problema con el brillo de pantalla no aplica los cambiosrar sob
[21:29] <SonikkuAmerica> !es | laura__
[21:29] <laura__> esta oscuro y se me dificulta para ver
[21:29] <allie83> jrib: global menu bar integration 3.7.1 & ubuntu firefox modifications 2.6
[21:29] <SonikkuAmerica> laura__: juntale a #ubuntu-es
[21:29] <allie83> jrib: im sure i don't need the 1st one
[21:30] <jamesgcd> newbie-4th-day I cant say I've tried that, but if it works for you thats good. What's stopping you installing ubuntu on the actual computer though? If you're looking for portability, I think there may be better options for you to try out like Puppy Linux rather than Ubuntu, they seem more fit for purpose
[21:30] <jrib> allie83: that's ok.  Your description just sounded like you might be using flashblock, but I guess not.  It's strange that flash works ok at https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ but not elsewhere
[21:30] <Eagleman> ikonia, it still hangs sometimes, fixed the routing and added a default gateway
[21:31] <drizze> mccs.stu.marist.edu:6667
[21:31] <allie83> jrib: so what am i missing
[21:31] <Schumi23> Do you know of any good mass image resizer? Thanks! (For Ubuntu)
[21:31] <ikonia> Eagleman: keep working it through, look at your syslog, also remeber you've changed the interfaces, but not the iptables rules that match them
[21:32] <laura__> hola alguien que me pueda asesoro un problema con el brillo de pantalla no aplica los cambios
[21:32] <allie83> jrib: are my plugins in firefox important
[21:32] <ikonia> !es  | laura__
[21:32] <leptone> does anyone know how to use the festival synthesizer with orca screen reader?
[21:32] <dustinspringman> so, Ive read about a dozen posts about how to set static DNS servers that will not  be overwritten on reboot, but I can't seem to get any of them to work... 64bit Server 12.04LTS... Can someone point me to some docs that aren't written for computers to read?
[21:32] <laura__> hhh
[21:33] <dustinspringman> I've successfully done this before, but can't remember how...
[21:33] <jrib> allie83: the extensions you mean?  Yes, those are normal
[21:33] <newbie-4th-day> jamesgcd: yes it's about portability :) i'm googling 'puppy linux'
[21:33] <allie83> jrib: i meant under add-on manager...plugins tab
[21:34] <nuclrwastd> [C[C[D
[21:34] <WBF> I need help the avconv package isn't installing: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5563031/
[21:35] <jrib> allie83: well you should see flash there and it should be "enabled"
[21:35] <acc> hello, is the 'res' column in the top command the used memory?
[21:35] <acc> and means 339m megabytes?
[21:36] <SonikkuAmerica> acc: I believe "res" means "resources"
[21:37] <WBF> SonikkuAmerica, :D
[21:37] <k1l_> WBF: which ubuntu is that?
[21:37] <WBF> k1l_, ubuntu 12.10
[21:37] <oli_b> hi all
[21:37] <k1l_> WBF: and did you run a sudo apt-get update?
[21:37] <ax562> hi
[21:37] <WBF> k1l_, yes
[21:37] <jrib> allie83: any output here: ls -l ~/.mozilla/plugins
[21:38] <allie83> jrib: DivX, DjView, IcedTea Plugin, QuickTime Plugin, Shockwave Flash, VLC Multimedia, Windows Media Player Plugin....
[21:38] <ax562> does anyone know how to automatically run scripts at boot in ubuntu?
[21:38] <k1l_> WBF: the package name is: libav-tools
[21:38] <ax562> is there init.d type directory that could handle that?
[21:38] <jrib> allie83: you can try disabling all of them except flash and trying youtube again if you want
[21:38] <WBF> k1l_, thanks :D
[21:38] <jrib> !startup | ax562
[21:38] <k1l_> WBF: and since 12.04 that should be installed by default
[21:39] <dustinspringman> disregard, I found the thread I used before!~ +1 for bookmarks that get forgotten.. =D
[21:39] <allie83> jrib: i'll try it...the shockwave flash?
[21:39] <jrib> allie83: right, leave that enabled
[21:39] <allie83> jrib:ok
[21:39] <ax562> @jrib but that will handle scripts and not only apps?
[21:39] <jrib> ax562: the instructions give you several options.  What do you mean by "that"
[21:40] <ax562> "start up programs tab"
[21:40] <jrib> ax562: yes, you can put scripts there
[21:41] <ax562> can they be given sudo permissions through that function?
[21:42] <jrib> ax562: what, specifically, do you want to execute?
[21:42] <allie83> jrib: grr...closed firefox and started over...no video...the black box is there for a moment then just white ...but i still have my thumbnails
[21:42] <ax562> kernel scripts
[21:42] <SonikkuAmerica> ax562: If you type "sudo" or "gksudo" in the line (depending on GUI or terminal) they will be run with root permissions, but you'll need to auth first
[21:42] <ax562> custom
[21:42] <jrib> ax562: be more specific
[21:42] <jrib> allie83: any output here: ls -l ~/.mozilla/plugins
[21:43] <SonikkuAmerica> ax562: (I have that backwards)
[21:43] <ax562> swappinnes, cache pressure, dirty etc
[21:44] <allie83> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5563059/
[21:45] <acc> is it possible to change the nice worth of a running process?
[21:45] <jrib> allie83: close all your firefox windows, then run firefox in a terminal, visit youtube, pastebin any output you get in the terminal
[21:45] <ax562> so where the heck is prefrences?
[21:45] <jrib> acc: renice
[21:46] <ax562> i went to system settings and system doe not have preferences
[21:46] <allie83> jrib: run firefox in terminal? never done this before
[21:46] <jrib> allie83: yes
[21:47] <jrib> ax562: well swappiness you can set using sysctl, how about the others?
[21:47] <acc> jrib thx
[21:47] <aaas> can anyone recommend webcam software for ubuntu...just something where I can turn on my cam and see myself through my laptops integrated camera
[21:47] <Eagleman> ikonia, thanks for helping, i have to look into it next day. see what goes wrong
[21:47] <SonikkuAmerica> ax562: Silly me! It's System Settings > Startup Applications
[21:48] <allie83> jrib: type run firefox?
[21:48] <jrib> allie83: just "firefox"
[21:48] <SonikkuAmerica> ax562: Or do a Unity dash search for it
[21:48] <jamesgcd> aaas: try using cheese :)
[21:48] <alex_mayorga> Hello! I keep getting an error report for apportcheckresume. Can anyone here help me get rid of it?
[21:49] <WBF> tried to use avconv to record screen from this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/167683 [but winded up with this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5563077/]
[21:50] <allie83> jrib: opened firefox...nothing more came up in the terminal....no video either
[21:50] <jrib> allie83: did you get a new prompt?
[21:50] <k1l_> WBF: read the comments under that commandbox
[21:50] <WBF> ++
[21:50] <allie83> jrib: yes
[21:51] <WBF> oops k1l_ srry
[21:51] <WBF> my mouse fell off my desk
[21:51] <jrib> allie83: you have to close all your firefox windows and then type firefox in the terminal
[21:51] <allie83> jrib: then enter?
[21:51] <jrib> allie83: right
[21:52] <ikonia> Eagleman: reloading your iptables rules would be a good start, so they match your new interface setp
[21:52] <ikonia> setup
[21:52] <allie83> jrib: okay, i'm at my ubuntu start page
[21:52] <jrib> allie83: go to youtube
[21:53] <allie83> jrib: click a video?
[21:53] <jarray52> The following line in /etc/fstab use to work in previous versions of Ubuntu, but it now prevents Ubuntu from booting. Any suggestions. The line is
[21:53] <jarray52> none /proc/bus/usb usbfs defaults,devmode=0664 0 0
[21:54] <bekks> jarray52: Just omit that line, it is horribly outdated.
[21:54] <jrib> allie83: sure
[21:54] <AcidRain> what are some good BIG online multiplayer ubuntu games?
[21:54] <Grimey_> /quit
[21:54] <baumy> if i want windows to be detected by grub, and ubuntu is my primary os, and im manually partitioning things during an ubuntu server install, how should i setup my partitions? ive been running into bios/uefi problems and the documentation isnt helping me
[21:54] <ikonia> jarray52: why have you got that line ?
[21:54] <allie83> jrib: nadda
[21:55] <jarray52> ikonia: I have a USB JTAG flasher to flash my OpenWRT router.
[21:55] <jrib> allie83: nothing in your terminal?
[21:55] <jamesgcd> AcidRain it depends upon the genre and youd probably get better help on the steam forums or some other gaming website :p
[21:55] <ikonia> jarray52: that line won't "mount" anything
[21:55] <allie83> jrib: just a square cursor
[21:55] <jrib> allie83: and no new prompt this time/
[21:55] <jarray52> ikonia: In the past, it was required for the JTAG flasher to work.
[21:55] <allie83> jrib: nope
[21:55] <jrib> allie83: i'm out of ideas then; maybe someone else can help
[21:56] <ikonia> jarray52: remove the line
[21:56] <leptone> does anyone know how to setup orca screen reader with the festival synthesizer?
[21:56] <jarray52> ikonia: Okay. I'll try with out the line. Thanks.
[21:56] <jarray52> bekks: Thanks. I'll remove the line.
[21:56] <allie83> jrib:dang it...oh woe is me :P what could be missing? should i just back everything up and start a fresh install now that i have the right drivers?
[21:58] <allie83> jrib: im trying to fix this b/c my vector is in read-only mode....vector video was just fine but something else happened with it that i can only use it in read only....i just want a machine that works :S
[21:58] <jrib> allie83: no idea.  It should work as far as I can tell
[21:58] <jarray52> ikonia: The operation failed. I need some variant of that line in order to get the jtag flasher to work.
[21:59] <octocpp> In AIDE, Is it normal for files in  /dev/char/, /dev/tty, /dev/cpu to change Ctime and Inode after a reboot, and is it recommended to just remove this from being checked, or could this be a possible avenue for a hacker to compromise the sys and this should continue to be monitored and looked through?
[21:59] <allie83> jrib: well thanks for all your time and patience....maybe i'll turn this off for a bit and try something else later...thanks again...it means alot :D
[21:59] <jarray52> bekks: The operation failed. I need some variant of that line in order to get the flashing operation to succeed.
[22:00] <jrib> allie83: there are some forum threads that claim clearing your cache and cookies might help.  But trying the new profile would have done this.  Worth a try anyway I guess
[22:00] <jrib> allie83: http://support.google.com/accounts/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=32050
[22:00] <jrib> allie83: some people also say using "https://youtube.com" seemed to make the videos work, so you might see if that changes your situation
[22:02] <paradigmarson> I'm using Xubuntu. Often, Gnome apps are displayed as if they use some ancient toolkit in Xfce. How can I make them display properly?
[22:02] <paradigmarson> They don't just display weirdly when run as root btw.
[22:02] <jrib> allie83: also, if you go back to https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ where flash seemed to work, you might right click on it and disable hardware accel for flash
[22:03] <paradigmarson> I don't get this problem with the GreyBird theme, but I like clearlooks.
[22:05] <leptone> does anyone know a text to speech plug in for Firefox?
[22:06] <genii-around> leptone: FoxVox, I think
[22:06] <allie83> jrib: will try a few of these things...have to take a break first...thanks again...appreciate your time :)
[22:07] <MattH> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/text-to-voice/
[22:12] <leptone> genii-around, thank you! just what i was looking for! However it doesn't seem to work at all. when i highlight text i now see the foxvox option but when i select read text nothing happens. any advice?
[22:13] <genii-around> leptone: For linux you probably need a backend like festvox ( I would think, in this case )
[22:13] <nick_h> after "aptitude safe-upgrade" finished running, it said "Current status: 0 updates [-14]." what does the -14 mean?
[22:14] <alex_mayorga> !suspend
[22:14] <leptone> genii-around, ok. how do i do that?/what is backending?
[22:15] <genii-around> leptone: festvox is available for installation through the Software Center
[22:15] <leptone> genii-around, ok. should i remove the add-on from firefox?
[22:16] <genii-around> leptone: A backend is a program which is doing something underneath of what the interface presented to the user is showing
[22:17] <leptone> genii-around, so just install the language i need
[22:17] <genii-around> leptone: Probably to uninstall that, install the festvox, try reinstall of the addon after
[22:18] <ax562> trying to install 12.04.2 but my cd drive is not cooperating
[22:18] <ax562> got an error can't mount /dev/loop0
[22:19] <ax562> but there might be hope since it shot me back to a terminal with command options
[22:19] <ax562> my question is can I load the cd from my external disk drive using this terminal?
[22:20] <leptone> genii-around, so i removed the add-on. but im unclear on wht i should install from the USC. when i search festvox. i get "Common files for Festival Finnish Speakers" "american English male speaker for festival, 16khz sample rate" that one is already installed and then more like that...what am i looking for?
[22:21] <ax562> specfically what im running is busybox v1.18.4 built in shell (ash)
[22:21] <ax562> any ideas how to mount external disk drive in this shell and load disk?
[22:22] <genii-around> leptone: If you install a voice for your language it will also install whatever else is needed by that
[22:22] <demonio> hi all with scp command can i copy i file from my host to my target machine?
[22:23] <leptone> genii-around, so then there is already a backend installed, right? so foxvox add-on should have been working already?
[22:23] <genii-around> demonio: Yes, with like: scp /path-to-local-file/filename username-at-remote-box@remote-box-name:/path-to-put-file
[22:23] <ax562> any idead?
[22:24] <ax562> ideas?
[22:25] <genii-around> leptone: Since it wasn't working first time out, we would have to suppose it had no program underneath from which to make the voice. I am only supposing to a large degree that festvox would be a suitable "underneath-program"
[22:26] <sayd> i have vagrant setting up an ubuntu vm in bridged mode, and im wondering how to have my other clients know how to connect to that vm for testing.. would i have to run my own internal dns? rely on routers NAT? suggestions welcome
[22:27] <demonio> oh thanks genii-around it works
[22:27] <ax562> loaded ubuntu 12.04.2 install disk, disk drive errored out and it loaded a shell prompt.  Can I mount external disk drive and load install from there in shell???
[22:28] <leptone> genii-around, ok i think i follow. well i do have festival installed which i believe installed festvox (or i got installed some other way). I'm searching for foxvox setup articles and i can't find any. do you have any advice on how i can get foxvox to use festvox.
[22:28] <mimiflynn> sayd, i use the ip for the vm
[22:30] <ax562> loaded ubuntu 12.04.2 install disk, disk drive errored out and it loaded a shell prompt.  Can I mount external disk drive and load install from there in shell???
[22:30] <genii-around> leptone: Hm, looks like it doesn't like PulseAudio, according to the developer's notes at http://foxvox.wordit.com/
[22:31] <Vjarjadian_> are there any known bugs in 12.04.2 LTS that cause boot to wait for network configuration a long time?
[22:31] <leptone> genii-around, so does that mean it wont work with linux?
[22:32] <ax562> loaded ubuntu 12.04.2 install disk, disk drive errored out and it loaded a shell prompt.  Can I mount external disk drive and load install from there in shell?  I have mount function available through shell.
[22:33] <genii-around> leptone: It also seems to use mbrola for the backend, and not festvox as I originally surmised. I would try install mbrola then the addon again
[22:34] <baumy> I can't find the latest compat-drivers package, can someone link me?
[22:34] <baumy> formerly compat-wireless
[22:34] <baumy> nevermind finally found it -_-
[22:35] <leptone> genii-around, ok ill try that
[22:38] <ax562> loaded ubuntu 12.04.2 install disk, disk drive errored out and it loaded a shell prompt.  Can I mount external disk drive and load install from there in shell?  I have mount function available through shell.
[22:38] <Vjarjadian_> ax562... asking every few minutes is no incentive to answer...
[22:38] <ericsan> hello :)
[22:38] <ax562> thanks
[22:39] <leptone> genii-around, so i installed mbrola and then reisnatalled the add-on. still on working. i am able to create audio files but there is nothing in them...
[22:39] <Tex_Nick> 12.10 with gnome classic de ... i recently added a second monitor, it worked fine till i rebooted ... on reboot the bios POST is displayed on both monitors & GRUB is displayed on both monitors ... when it gets to the lightdm login, i loose one monitor ... at the desktop i have to use the "display settings" to toggle the inactive monitor off then back on ... what can i do to not have to go through that kludge ?
[22:40] <ax562> what would be incentive then...?
[22:40] <wjtaylor> Do I have to kill badblocks for it to stop, like memtest86?  I'm doing a nondestructive test and it's taking days for a 1tb drive... However, I did a destructive test a week ago and it lasted less than a day.
[22:41] <ax562> I'm thinking it shouldn't be too hard to mount external and load install from there
[22:41] <Vjarjadian_> well, obviously nobody here can help. try google
[22:41] <ax562> but looks like no one is sharing any information at the moment
[22:41] <Vjarjadian_> or a different time zone
[22:41] <leptone> genii-around, **still NOT working
[22:42] <antz> hello. I have ubuntu 12.04 lts... my wireless keep disconnecting. anyone know how to fix this issue?
[22:42] <jdukiet> If the question is something that the answer is easily found elsewhere, it is ignored.
[22:43] <antz> i googled but i couldnt find answers
[22:43] <bonhoeffer> is there a way to find all images with width 100 px and height 120 pix
[22:43] <bonhoeffer> and not other metadata
[22:43] <bonhoeffer> i'm thinking of a find query with exif as a filter
[22:43] <ericsan> i just set up an ubuntu 12.04 LTS installation and now i want to install steam. Software Center and apt-cache search gives me nothing. Did I miss something? (yes i checked that partner-software checkbox)
[22:43] <genii-around> leptone: My last idea for it is to install pulseaudio-esound-compat and perhaps it can use pulseaudio by way of the different sound system instead
[22:44] <jdukiet> ax562: If you have another drive avail, just boot off that for the install
[22:44] <leptone> genii-around: sudo apt-get install pulseaudio-esound-compat?
[22:44] <genii-around> leptone: Or through the Software Center, either way
[22:44] <bilou23> hi, I've installed ubuntu 12.10 next to windows a few weeks ago, Windows is always run I can't choose ubuntu, I've run boot-repair several times, the only way I can go to ubuntu is by putting the live usb key, then I can see the grub screen, what should I do?
[22:45] <ax562> @jdukiet I can not
[22:45] <ax562> firmware does not allow usb boot
[22:45] <jrib> bonhoeffer: you can fetch information like that using imagemagick's identify command
[22:45] <ax562> external drive is usb
[22:46] <SonikkuAmerica> ericsan: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve
[22:46] <ax562> locked bootloader and no more support
[22:46] <ericsan> bilou23: is it a different disk? Try to change the bios bootorder
[22:46] <bonhoeffer> jrib, works great -- but i wonder how i can find on that
[22:46] <jdukiet> ax562: Is windows also on the computer
[22:46] <ax562> yeah
[22:46] <bonhoeffer> i guess i could write a shell script . . .
[22:46] <jrib> bonhoeffer: what do you mean?
[22:46] <ax562> I actually have dual boot with grub1
[22:46] <antz_> sorry. i got dc'd again. I have ubuntu 12.04 LTS. my wireless keeps disconnecting. any solutions to this?
[22:46] <leptone> genii-around, nope. nothing....
[22:47] <antz_> or refer me to somewhere i can read about it
[22:47] <ax562> ubuntu 11.04 on and everything works but wanted to upgrade to 64bit
[22:47] <SonikkuAmerica> antz_: Can you [ lspci ]?
[22:47] <bilou23> ericsan: it's the same disk, I've made half-half partitions, do you need a bootinfo?
[22:47] <jdukiet> then boot windows and run wubi.exe off the cd
[22:47] <antz_> yes i can lspci
[22:47] <SonikkuAmerica> ax562: From a 32-bit?
[22:47] <ax562> yes
[22:47] <ericsan> SonikkuAmerica: Yes I saw that, the apt -link didn't work for me. And I'd like to get the offical packet.
[22:47] <SonikkuAmerica> ax562: There is no way to do that. You'll need to do a clean install.
[22:48] <antz_> SonikkuAmeria:  what does lspci do?
[22:48] <nexus`> anyone here haveexperience triple booting osx windows and linux
[22:48] <ax562> my problem is hardwared (ide disk drive)
[22:48] <nexus`> specifically using rEFit
[22:48] <nexus`> as a boott manager
[22:48] <ax562> @sonic..that is what i'm trying at the moment
[22:48] <jasunto> separate drive as /home question if someone can help?
[22:49] <genii-around> leptone: sudo restart pulseaudio     perhaps, and see again
[22:49] <antz_> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. Wireless keeps dropping. Solutions?
[22:49] <mgolisch> is there any integration of btrfs planned for future ubuntu releases?
[22:49] <ax562> I want to fresh install 12.04 over my existing ext4 partition
[22:49] <SonikkuAmerica> ericsan: Use this instead: http://store.steampowered.com/about/
[22:49] <ax562> @antz check router
[22:50] <ax562> loaded ubuntu 12.04.2 install disk, disk drive errored out and it loaded a shell prompt.  Can I mount external disk drive and load install from there in shell?  I have mount function available through shell.
[22:50] <antz_> its not router. all my other devices that uses this wireless is fine.
[22:50] <SonikkuAmerica> ericsan: The download is a green button near the bottom. You'll need to [ sudo dpkg -i $PACKAGE_NAME ] to install it.
[22:50] <leptone> genii-around, restart: Unknown job: pulseaudio
[22:53] <antz_> 01:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 (rev 3e)
[22:53] <antz_> 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 06)
[22:53] <antz_> whats that mean?
[22:54] <ax562> does anyone even understand my question?
[22:55] <genii-around> leptone: Try instead then: sudo service pulseaudio restart
[22:57] <leptone> genii-around, ok should i remove and reinstall the addon again?.
[22:57] <_genuser_> hello people, so the netbook 10.04 isn't supported anymore?
[22:58] <_genuser_> what is someone wants to stay on that version. is there any aptitude repos available for older versions?
[22:58] <bilou23> do you know if ot's possible to have grub boot loader on uefi? There is the secure boot and so I had to disable, I've also run boot repair, but I can't see the grub screen windows always boot by default.
[22:59] <ikonia> _genuser_: nothing provided by canonical
[22:59] <leptone> genii-around, it's not working....
[22:59] <ikonia> _genuser_: external people may have 10.04 repos for netbook
[22:59] <compdoc> _genuser_, I think there are mirrors with pakages for older versions, but no updates
[23:00] <mgolisch> bilou23: yeah grub supports efi
[23:00] <_genuser_> I'm trying to build android. they recommend 64-bit Ubuntu 10.04. And 12.x version are supported with lot of restrictions. So either netbook or desktop Ubuntu 10.04 would be nice. But new installs will be tough especially with packages to be installed.
[23:01] <mgolisch> _genuser_: use a chroot ? or a virtual machine ?
[23:02] <_genuser_> mgolisch: expand on that please. how would I go about getting a 10.04 env with those options?
[23:04] <mgolisch> _genuser_: you could just install 10.4 into a directory on your current installation using debbootstrap
[23:04] <mgolisch> and use chroot command to change into that environment
[23:04] <BladeRunner1024|> I have a question about Ubuntu, I would like to know the download size total.
[23:04] <BladeRunner1024|> Can anyone help me with this?
[23:04] <bilou23> mgolisch: ok, do you why I don't see it? when it boots and I press F9, I can see "Os Boot Manager" and below "Ubuntu (...)", when I click on ubuntu I can see grub and I can boot windows or ubuntu properly, but when I go to the bios (F10) and go the the boot order, I don't see "Ubuntu" only "OS boot Manager", "cd" and "usb / hd".
[23:05] <bilou23> so I can't configure "Ubuntu" with a higher priority in the boot order
[23:06] <ax562> loaded ubuntu 12.04.2 install disk, disk drive errored out and it loaded a shell prompt.  Can I mount external disk drive and load install from there in shell?  I have mount function available through shell.
[23:06] <mgolisch> it probablyconfifured the windows efi boot files to load as the default
[23:06] <_genuser_> mgolisch: ah, I see. a bit of a learning curve there, no problem. First I need a working Ubuntu 12.x I supposed. :) My server is gentoo, no X.
[23:06] <bakeRR> While installing Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS on a Windows host VM, I get the "... system is running in low-graphics mode" error. I have followed all the ask ubuntu questions and answers but no solution seems to work. Thoughts?
[23:07] <mgolisch> _genuser_: you can just download debootstrap on your gentoo box and install a ubuntu into a chroot from that
[23:07] <k1l_> BladeRunner1024|: which downloadsize? that from the cd iso?
[23:07] <Tex_Nick> BladeRunner1024|:  this will give you that info for various versions ... http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[23:07] <BladeRunner1024|> I am not sure what that means, lets say I downloaded and ran the installer, what is the size? Ex: 8 GB, 79 MBs.
[23:08] <_genuser_> mgolisch: sounds like a plan. but I think I'll need to find a head for the server for the installation phase.
[23:08] <leptone> does anyone know how to get foxvox working? i have it installed but it doesnt do anything?
[23:08] <bilou23> mgolisch: do you know where I can change that? in the bios I don't see ubuntu..
[23:09] <k1l_> BladeRunner1024|: can you rephrase?
[23:09] <mgolisch> _genuser_: debootstrap install a base system its completly cmdline, you can just run it via ssh
[23:09] <BladeRunner1024|> I am planing on downloading Ubuntu, I would like to know how much room/bandwidth it would take too.
[23:10] <antz_> how do you watch netflix on ubuntu?
[23:10] <_genuser_> mgolisch: but eventually to run ubuntu with x, I suppose I can just leave it been and remote into it like I planned originally if I used the server.
[23:10] <Feelquilty>  / #join backtrack-fr
[23:10] <mgolisch> _genuser_: i think they even have debootstrap in portage
[23:11] <leptone> doesn anyone know how to get foxvox working? or know of another firefox text-to-speech solution?
[23:11] <_genuser_> mgolisch: I think more of my questions will answer themselves once I go google debootstrap a little.
[23:11] <_genuser_> I see debootstrap in portage.
[23:11] <mgolisch> _genuser_: you could just use ssh x11 forwarding to bring up x11 stuff on your client computer
[23:12] <antz_> Netflix on Ubuntu. How?
[23:12] <_genuser_> mgolisch: main desktop is windows.
[23:13] <mgolisch> _genuser_: doesnt matter realy, you can just use putty and some windows x11 server, i have done stuff like that aoften at work on my windows box
[23:14] <_genuser_> mgolisch: I think my lack of experience with X forwarding, debootstrap and etc is really what's the main culprit. but I think I have some items to google and should be able to get it going.
[23:14] <mgolisch> _genuser_: if you have any questions just come and ask
[23:14] <mgolisch> :)
[23:15] <_genuser_> mgolisch: thanks for you help. :) Will ask if there's any questions.
[23:15] <mgolisch> bilou23: no idea, my boot loader just shows all of that stuff, tried google?
[23:16] <BladeRunner1024|> I am planing on downloading Ubuntu, I would like to know how much room/bandwidth it would take to download.
[23:16] <cyberpolice> hi
[23:16] <antz_> im pissed
[23:16] <mgolisch> BladeRunner1024|: the install cd? its like 700mb or so
[23:16] <k1l_> BladeRunner1024|: the cd iso is like 800mb.
[23:16] <mgolisch> BladeRunner1024|: or what do you mean?
[23:17] <cyberpolice> I am new using Ubuntu and I am looking for any usefull tips
[23:17] <k1l_> BladeRunner1024|: room on disk i would say you need 15GB or more
[23:17] <bilou23> mgolisch: ok np, yes I'm currently looking at http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/efi and http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/efi#convertir_ubuntu_en_mode_efi_ou_non-efi but apparetly I've already did all this, just re-reading in case I missed something...
[23:17] <antz_> how do you download Wine on ubuntu. and what can you do with Wine
[23:17] <k1l_> cyberpolice: just ask as specific as you can
[23:18] <k1l_> !wine | antz_
[23:18] <leptone> does anyone know how to get foxvox working?
[23:18] <leptone> does anyone know how to get text-to-speech working in firefox?
[23:18] <BladeRunner1024|> If I download and install Ubuntu on one PC, can I put it on another PC via Flash Drive?
[23:19] <cyberpolice> I need to install Citrix but I am getting an errors. Any suggestions?
[23:19] <k1l_> antz_: just install that package in your packagemanager. for support for windows programs running in wine please see the wine database and the wine support
[23:19] <k1l_> BladeRunner1024|: you can copy the iso onto a usb-stick and install it several times
[23:20] <leptone> anybody know how to setup text to speech?
[23:20] <BladeRunner1024|> Ok, thanks/
[23:21] <cyberpolice> I am doing this but it's not working "sudo dpkg -i icaclient_12.1.0_amd64.deb"
[23:22] <cyberpolice> any suggestions will be helpful
[23:22] <leptone>  get text-to-speech working. anyone know how?
[23:22] <cyberpolice> Here is the message that I am getting
[23:22] <cyberpolice> dpkg: error processing icaclient_12.1.0_amd64.deb (--install):
[23:22] <cyberpolice>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[23:22] <cyberpolice> Errors were encountered while processing:
[23:22] <cyberpolice>  icaclient_12.1.0_amd64.deb
[23:23] <ax562> loaded ubuntu 12.04.2 install disk, disk drive errored out and it loaded a shell prompt.  Can I mount external disk drive and load install from there in shell?  I have mount function available through shell.
[23:24] <Feelquilty> -fr
[23:25] <antz_> what a comeback!!!
[23:27] <Nvveen> Hey all, my Unity is messed up in that none of the panels will show up (12.10). Hardware accelleration works, and I've tried reinstalling Unity, Compiz and ubuntu-desktop, to no avail. Can someone tell me how to do a complete reinstall/reset by packages or does this sound familiar to anyone...?
[23:28] <Nvveen> I've had this problem since January and have had to use Cinnamon in the mean time (that one just works)
[23:29] <Nvveen> Window Decoration does work by the way
[23:30] <_dreamer> Im having som troble changing my root password after generating a password with pwgen
[23:30] <_dreamer> I copy the password and try to paste it but ubuntu does not like it
[23:31] <_dreamer> Could you please help me?
[23:31] <Nvveen> If noone can help me, can someone then direct me to another irc-channel with more experienced people?
[23:32] <k1l_> Nvveen: does a new user have this problems?
[23:32] <k1l_> Nvveen: does the .xsession-errors from that user say something about that errors?
[23:32] <Nvveen> k1l_, yes. I enabled the root user too, and logging in gives the same problems.
[23:32] <k1l_> Nvveen: no, not the root user
[23:32] <SteveC> So, did my dist-upgrade today and I seem to have lost my mounts - /etc/fstab hasn't changed - I don't suppose it's a known problem?!
[23:33] <k1l_> that maybe broke something
[23:33] <SteveC> Guessing so..  Can't see anything being logged in /etc/logs/
[23:33] <Nvveen> k1l_, both, so a newly added user gives the same problems. The problem existed way before I enabled root login in lightdm
[23:33] <SteveC> erm, /var/logs
[23:33] <k1l_> Nvveen: i think the mint ppa ruined the ubuntu install
[23:34] <nh2> how can I disable asking for a LUKS password on boot? I want that my machine boots through and mount manually. Do I *have* to remove from fstab?
[23:35] <Nvveen> k1l_, do you advise I ppa-purge the cinnamon ppa and do another reinstall of unity/ubuntu-desktop/compiz
[23:35] <Nvveen> ?
[23:35] <Nvveen> Also, forgot to mention the errors compiz gives, it says it can't load the unityshell plugin
[23:37] <Atlantic777> I'm a bit confused. There are many packages related to flash plugin (flashplugin-nonfree-pulse  flashplugin-downloader  flashplugin-installer  flashplugin  flashplugin-nonfree  adobe-flashplugin) Which one do I need?
[23:37] <k1l_> the mint guys change alot in the gnome desktop. so that will affect unity. for a unity reset use:  unity --reset  and dpkg-reconfigure compiz
[23:43] <Nvveen> k1l_, Okay, I removed the cinnamon ppa entirely, but dpkg-reconfigure compiz is failing with a couple of errors now
[23:44] <g090> If I don't play many games on my computer, would it make more sense to invest in a better CPU and not get a dedicated graphics card? How well is Intel HD 4000 supported?
[23:44] <g090> Or is it better to still get a cheap dedicated graphics card, so that it doesn't have to share the RAM with the integrated graphics?
[23:48] <Atlantic777> Intel graphics cards are well supported.
[23:48] <Atlantic777> And have good enough performance. :)
[23:50] <g090> Great, thanks
[23:51] <g090> I do play a few flash games from time to time and they are quite CPU-intensive.
[23:53] <g090> I don't know if I should go with 32-bit or 64-bit version of Ubuntu. I'd rather have a bit less speed then deal with incompatibility issues if there are any.
[23:54] <Atlantic777> I use only 64bit systems for few years now (maybe 3 years) and I can't remember any problems since flash got fixed.
[23:54] <Guest69309> Nor I.  x64 chips have been around long enough that I'd be surprised if you run into anything that doesn't work on them
[23:55] <Nvveen> k1l_,  now of any reason why dpkg-reconfigure compiz would fail?
[23:57] <SonikkuAmerica> Guest69309: 16-bit applicatons
[23:57] <SonikkuAmerica> *applications
[23:59] <Atlantic777> x86 architecture keeps compatibility to it's 8bit roots.