[10:23] <smartboyhw> Hello zequence_ :P
[10:23] <smartboyhw> Why having an underscore?
[12:19] <zequence> hi smartboyhw 
[12:19] <smartboyhw> zequence, hello:)
[12:20]  * smartboyhw is playing with Ubuntu Touch Porting
[12:20] <zequence> Happens when the connection quits, and the old nick is left frozen at the freenode server
[12:20] <zequence> smartboyhw: Cool
[12:20] <smartboyhw> zequence, :)
[12:21] <zequence> I'm trying out Win 8. Username: Bill Gates, but I guess it might have been more approrpiate using Steve, whatever his name was
[12:22] <smartboyhw> zequence, bah
[12:23] <zequence> I'm required to know Windows for some of the course I'm doing
[12:23] <smartboyhw> zequence, oh OK.
[12:23]  * smartboyhw thinks Windows is bull****
[12:23] <smartboyhw> Sorry:P
[12:24] <smartboyhw> That's why I started using Ubuntu for good
[12:24] <zequence> It's a proprietary operating system. And when it comes to companies, very few of them will choose an OS based on their personal preference
[12:25] <zequence> If I am to work for in IT, it won't be up to me which OS I'll be using
[12:25] <smartboyhw> zequence, that's correct.
[12:25] <smartboyhw> And possibly 90% of them use Windows
[12:26] <zequence> I'd think as far as desktops go, here in Sweden, probably 100% use Windows
[12:26] <zequence> Different on the server side
[12:32] <smartboyhw> zequence, yeah
[12:40] <smartboyhw> zequence, did you have a chat with duanedesign from the beginners team?
[12:40] <zequence> smartboyhw: No. who is that?
[12:40] <smartboyhw> zequence, he is restarting the beginners team mentorship program
[12:41] <smartboyhw> And I said that I'll be interesting to help mentoring people to Kubuntu and Ubuntu Studio
[12:41] <zequence> That's good
[12:41] <smartboyhw> zequence, but then:
 Their is another new mwmber who is very interested in Ubuntu Studio and helping meentor people into contributing to Ubuntu Studio
[12:41] <zequence> ok. Who is that?
[12:41] <smartboyhw> zequence, the problem is: I don't know!
[12:42] <zequence> Does it matter?
[12:42] <smartboyhw> zequence, well at least we can tell him where to find us...
[12:42] <zequence> smartboyhw: I would however like for whoever wants to help with US development, contacts us directly
[12:43] <smartboyhw> zequence, :)
[12:43] <zequence> The Ubuntu beginner thing is good, but won't help with US specific stuff
[12:44] <smartboyhw> zequence, what is meant in that team is that they would go for the beginners team then tell them which things they wanted to help. The mentors will bring them to suitable places to help.:)
[12:48] <zequence> Can't say the win8 UI is exactly the most intuitive I've ever seen. I can see why many people would have problems with it
[12:49] <smartboyhw> zequence, yepp
[15:24] <len-1304> zequence, some companies use windows just because they are "sue-able". (good luck doing it though)
[15:24] <len-1304> This is what the company I work for means when they say a product has support.
[15:25] <len-1304> smartboyhw, zequence what program do we have that does the same thing as krita?
[15:26] <len-1304> I know we didn't include it because of libs, but we have crossed that bridge since then.
[15:26] <smartboyhw> len-1304, it's more about graphics
[15:26] <smartboyhw> Digital Painting
[15:27] <len-1304> Ya I know. I am just saying now that we pull in zde libs anyway, is it better than what we do have?
[15:27] <len-1304> *kde
[15:29] <smartboyhw> len-1304, hmm nice question. I'll answer you that tmr.
[15:30] <len-1304> speaking kde libs and programs that use it... k3b gets pulled in by kdenlive. Which some people wanted, the only problem seems to be that it does not work well with wodim, the poor cdrecord replacement.
[15:31] <len-1304> I thought I just didn't use it right and so after killing two dvds I stopped using it. But I have since heard from other people that it works fine with cdrecord
[15:34] <len-1304> These are some things it would be nice to get Scott's view on as he does more graphics than I do. Maybe Mish too. I think I will send an email to the list.
[15:43] <smartboyhw> len-1304, who's mish?
[15:43] <len-1304> one of the guys who has contributed icon artwork
[15:43] <len-1304> He is not here all that often
[16:01] <zequence> len-1304: It does seem like krita is a well used application
[16:01] <len-1304> Would it be best as an addition or replacement for something?
[16:02] <zequence> problem is we haven't gone through each workflow properly to do that sort of estimations
[16:03] <zequence> Ideally, we'd have one person per worfklow who did that
[16:03] <len-1304> Just sent email to the list suggesting that.
[16:03] <zequence> Ok, let's see what people think
[16:03] <len-1304> It would be great if we had one person for each WF
[16:06] <zequence> Doesn't really require any skills other than user skills for that workflow
[16:06] <len-1304> Yup, for any of them.