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yofelworst case you'll have to put a full copy of the text in the copyright file00:00
murthyya00:00
murthyyofel: i am almost finished, only that thired party dir is left, i can tell that the copyright thing is a complete mess  00:03
yofelyou always find fun things when reading licenses00:03
murthyya :)00:03
yofellike this apsl thing...00:03
yofelthis is bsd-4-clause AND apsl-2.0 right? http://paste.kde.org/68037800:06
murthyyofel: ya00:06
murthyyofel: two new blocks have to be created00:06
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murthy_good night everyone00:31
ScottKyofel: Thanks.01:08
smartboyhwRiddell, shadeslayer yofel I found it qute weird. In "Membership" part of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings it says "Note: Don't forget to join the ~kubuntu-members team on launchpad" that doesn't really make sense right? It is a restricted team and basically if you have joined the team you are a Kubuntu member already what's the point of going through a meeting? This needs clarification02:34
smartboyhws/qute/quite02:35
lordievaderGood morning07:48
Mirvmorning08:04
yofelsmartboyhw: might need changing as I believe it was just moderated in the past08:20
smartboyhwyofel, changing of what?09:35
soeegood morning10:03
lordievaderMorning10:03
Riddellmorning10:28
lordievaderHas anything major happend this past week?10:30
Riddelllordievader: we have missed you10:49
lordievaderRiddell: Busy times?10:52
lordievaderCurrently making an image of the 13.04 daily. :)10:52
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BluesKajHey all11:48
sheytanapachelogger: ping pong12:14
yofel!testers | someone please test my digikam backports for 12.04 and 12.10 in ppa:yofel/staging113:08
ubottusomeone please test my digikam backports for 12.04 and 12.10 in ppa:yofel/staging1: Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan, lordievader for information.13:08
apacheloggersheytan: yuz?13:09
yofelif you can verify that lcms works perfect13:09
yofeland disable the PPA after that13:09
BluesKajI don't have video camera on my setup, so I'll pass on that one13:09
Riddellyofel: no testing needed on raring?13:11
yofelraring's already uploaded13:11
sheytanapachelogger: you didn't tell me if you like the last version of ldm13:11
BluesKajoops didn't realize digikam is a photo organizer etc .. i just store my photos in folders according event-dates13:14
apacheloggersheytan: like it13:14
apacheloggersheytan: but the system options (shutdown,reboot,sleep) should be in a menu13:14
apacheloggernot rolled out13:14
Riddellwhere are we with afiestas's user config tool?13:15
sheytanapachelogger: but the rolled one is a cool thing i guess13:16
sheytanit's something new13:16
sheytanbut ofcourse we can have a popup13:16
apacheloggerif you roll it out you need to put text to the icons13:17
ovidiu-florincare e diferența dintre kmail și kmail2?13:55
ovidiu-florinhello world :D13:55
ovidiu-florinsorry, wrong channel ^^13:55
lordievaderHey ovidiu-florin, how are you doing?14:01
ovidiu-florinsorry I dissapeared for a while... had some exams...14:01
ovidiu-florinnow I'm preparing for GSOC14:02
lordievaderovidiu-florin: GSOC? What is that?14:03
ovidiu-floringoogle summer of code14:04
ovidiu-florinI want to participate to some KDE projects....14:04
lordievaderovidiu-florin: Ah oke, nice! Good luck!14:04
ovidiu-florinbut I don't really have the time to study the KDE techbase...14:04
ovidiu-florin:(14:04
shadeslayeryofel: yeah, I have a package ready, will upload to my PPA for testing14:07
Riddellshadeslayer: package of what?14:07
shadeslayerpoppler14:07
ScottKyofel: There's two kde-wallpaper's in the queue.  Which one do I want?14:26
yofelScottK: I only see one14:27
ScottKyofel: Nevermind.  I can't read.14:28
ScottKThanks.14:28
yofel^^14:28
sheytanapachelogger: ok, ive talked to ldm ppl and we will have that theme today i hope :)14:31
mgraesslinany updates on the live cd doesn't use compositing issue?14:58
Quintasanyofel: Do you use x-swat ppa?15:08
yofelno15:09
QuintasanI have like weird compositing15:09
yofelusing what driver?15:09
QuintasanI believe the intel magic15:09
Quintasansince the nvidia card is turned off according to bbswitch15:09
Quintasanyofel, mgraesslin: http://i.imgur.com/Le7bGLd.png15:11
Quintasanany idea what might be causing it to look like this?15:11
Quintasanmgraesslin: also, I just installed 12.10 and I had compositing on15:11
yofelI've seen that in Virtualbox with Xrandr15:11
mgraesslinlooks like a Plasma theme issue15:11
Quintasanhmm15:12
QuintasanI reapplied the theme15:12
Quintasanstill looks like http://i.imgur.com/2CzYwab.png15:12
yofelis that xrandr or opengl?15:12
yofelerm15:12
yofelXrender15:12
Quintasanhow do I check that?15:13
yofeldesktop effects -> advanced15:13
QuintasanOpenGL15:13
Quintasanwith raster15:13
yofelweird15:13
Quintasanwat15:14
QuintasanI changed it to Native15:14
Quintasanthen back to Raster15:14
Quintasanand it fixed itself15:14
QuintasanI thinl15:14
Quintasanthink*15:14
yofel...15:14
Quintasanyeah15:14
shadeslayerQuintasan: see QA page15:18
shadeslayerno errors like last week :P15:18
yofelshadeslayer: good, now please fix the log file mime type...15:21
shadeslayerhe15:22
shadeslayerheh15:22
shadeslayerdon't really know how to fix that, it's what apt sets15:22
yofelshadeslayer: has nothing to do with apt http://redmine.lighttpd.net/projects/1/wiki/Mimetype_assignDetails15:24
shadeslayerah15:25
shadeslayerI see15:25
yofelapplication/octet-stream is a bit annoying for the log files15:25
shadeslayerroger15:25
apacheloggershadow on the wall15:47
* apachelogger really not in the mood to unbreak things15:48
apachelogger-.-15:48
Riddellhmm I wanted to see if this guy was right about pulseaudio being needed by qtmultimediakit16:02
Riddellbut turns out nothing uses qtmultimediakit16:02
yofelhm...16:02
yofelpython-kde4: /usr/lib/kde4/kpythonpluginfactory.so16:02
yofel$ ldd /usr/lib/kde4/kpythonpluginfactory.so | grep py16:03
yofel        libpython3.3m.so.1.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpython3.3m.so.1.0 (0x00007f3b628e4000)16:03
yofelScottK: shouldn't ^ be linked against python2 ?16:03
shadeslayeryofel: hm, doesn't seem to work16:07
yofelhm, dunno then16:08
shadeslayerhttp://paste.kde.org/680996/16:09
shadeslayerwhen using the config sample from the page you linked to16:09
apacheloggerRiddell: plasma-active uses it16:11
Riddellapachelogger: any idea why?16:11
apacheloggeror rather their intro plugin does16:11
apacheloggers/plugin/plasmoid16:11
apacheloggerRiddell: cause you cannot do qml with phonon416:12
Riddellfair enough16:12
apacheloggerwell you can, just not with native video drawing16:12
apacheloggeractually that is not true either16:12
apacheloggeryou can but you cannot explicitly create an item to do native video drawing :P16:12
apacheloggerfwiw though last I looked at the qtmm code there was no explicitly PA code16:13
apacheloggerit only linked against gstreamer16:13
apacheloggeroh it does now16:15
Quintasanapachelogger: you said I should send mail to kde-promo if I want to know if someone is up for giving a lecture?16:15
* Quintasan can't search quassel logs16:15
apacheloggeryah16:15
Quintasank16:15
Quintasanthanks16:15
shadeslayeryofel: fixed16:16
yofelshadeslayer++16:16
apacheloggershadeslayer: what's blocking the webcam stuff in ubiqity?16:17
shadeslayernow to figure out what include_shell "/usr/share/lighttpd/create-mime.assign.pl" does16:17
shadeslayerapachelogger: lazyness :P16:17
apacheloggerk16:17
* apachelogger joins the lazyness16:17
shadeslayeryofel: I just added the log suffix to /etc/mime.types16:22
yofelhah16:22
apacheloggerOo16:24
shadeslayeranyway, off to dinner16:25
Riddell"fatbuttlarry@gmail.com has been removed from kubuntu-devel"  hmm, probably not a great loss16:37
Riddellubiquity/frontend/kde_ui.py:95:80: E501 line too long (80 > 79 characters)17:01
Riddellagateau fails at the first testing with ubiquity :)17:01
ScottKyofel: It should.17:14
yofelmeh17:14
Riddellagateau: very important fixes bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~jr/ubiquity/layout-refresh-pep8-fixes17:15
Riddellpep8 stops anarchy breaking lose17:15
yofelScottK: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/130542080/buildlog_ubuntu-raring-amd64.pykde4_4%3A4.10.0-0ubuntu1_UPLOADING.txt.gz17:28
yofelboth 2.7 and 3.3 install /build/buildd/pykde4-4.10.0/debian/tmp/usr/lib/kde4/kpythonpluginfactory.so, so the 2.7 one is overwritten by the 3.3 one17:28
ScottKOh.17:29
ScottKNeed to fix that.  This would explain the problem people have been having with python kcms.17:29
yofelThat might fix a lot of things. Noticed that when looking at bug 1131647 - which makes no sense just looking at the code17:32
ubottubug 1131647 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "Python version mismatches causes "Could not create script engine" errors" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/113164717:32
ScottKI'm sick today, so no promises if I can get to it today or not.  Anyone else should feel free.17:38
QuintasanRiddell: how are business cards?18:15
QuintasanScottK: You got a rough idea why that python magic does not work? I'd like to gather information before I even attempt descending into that madness19:23
yofelQuintasan: what python magic?19:24
ScottKQuintasan: I think yofel's diagnosis is correct.  The upstream build system installs in the same place, so the 2.7 one is overrwitten before the python magic can happen19:24
yofel^19:24
Quintasanyofel: did you get down to fixing that?19:25
QuintasanI have some time I should use learn for uni so I figured I can do something elsr19:25
yofelnot really, I'm trying to fix digikam's lcms support *properly*19:25
Quintasan:P19:25
QuintasanI'll take a look when I get home19:25
ScottKQuintasan: It'll take some debian/rules fun to move it out of the way.19:26
yofelinstalling 3.3 into a seperate folder and taking the needed files from there would probably be the easiest solution19:28
apacheloggeryofel, ScottK: that needs broader handling upstream23:33
apacheloggeri.e. kpythonplugin really should have been kpython2plugin and kpython3plugin23:34
ScottKSure.  Their answer right now will be "we don't support building for multiple python versions"23:34
apacheloggeralso components using it need to use any such naming23:34
apacheloggerScottK: that's no answer that's BS23:34
apacheloggeryou cannot call the p3 build kpythonplugin23:34
* ScottK agrees.23:34
apacheloggerthat is all sorts of wrong23:34
apacheloggeras an application loading the plugin will expect it to parse python223:35
ScottKExcept you can, because the .so file will be named differently.23:35
apacheloggerwhich it cannot do because it's a python3 env in that secnario23:35
apacheloggerso the least they need to do is give it a different name23:35
apacheloggerScottK: that's what shoudl be the case, yes23:36
ScottKIt'll be kpythonplugin.3.3m.so23:36
ScottKWhich python won't even see as a valid name.23:36
yofelquestion is why it's then even building the unversioned one for 3.323:36
ScottKWe're building both python-kde and python3-pykde.23:36
ScottKEach should have an appropriate version in it.23:37
apacheloggerohm23:37
yofelyes, but fact is that we get kpythonpluginfactory.so twice23:37
yofelwhich is what caused the mess in the first place23:37
ScottKWhich is wrong.  The python3.3 one should be renamed.23:37
apacheloggerScottK: python does not laod that so23:37
ScottK(with the extension)23:37
ScottKOh.23:37
apacheloggerkde does23:37
apacheloggerit's a kcm thingy or something23:37
ScottKRight.23:37
apacheloggershoudl be name kpythonplugin3 btw23:38
ScottKOK.23:38
apacheloggeror python3plugin, not full version anyway23:38
ScottKThat would definitely be cleaner.23:38
apacheloggerthe base line of the interpreter is important here23:38
apacheloggerso you can then say in your desktopfile23:38
ScottKSomeone should ask upstream what the prefer.23:38
apacheloggerX-KDE-Plugin=kpython3plugin23:38
apachelogger...indicating that your app/plasmoid/whatever requires a python3 interpreter23:39
apacheloggerFWIW that requirement possibly applies to more than just the kpythonplugin so23:39
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