[00:00] <yofel> worst case you'll have to put a full copy of the text in the copyright file
[00:00] <murthy> ya
[00:03] <murthy> yofel: i am almost finished, only that thired party dir is left, i can tell that the copyright thing is a complete mess  
[00:03] <yofel> you always find fun things when reading licenses
[00:03] <murthy> ya :)
[00:03] <yofel> like this apsl thing...
[00:06] <yofel> this is bsd-4-clause AND apsl-2.0 right? http://paste.kde.org/680378
[00:06] <murthy> yofel: ya
[00:06] <murthy> yofel: two new blocks have to be created
[00:31] <murthy_> good night everyone
[01:08] <ScottK> yofel: Thanks.
[02:34] <smartboyhw> Riddell, shadeslayer yofel I found it qute weird. In "Membership" part of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings it says "Note: Don't forget to join the ~kubuntu-members team on launchpad" that doesn't really make sense right? It is a restricted team and basically if you have joined the team you are a Kubuntu member already what's the point of going through a meeting? This needs clarification
[02:35] <smartboyhw> s/qute/quite
[07:48] <lordievader> Good morning
[08:04] <Mirv> morning
[08:20] <yofel> smartboyhw: might need changing as I believe it was just moderated in the past
[09:35] <smartboyhw> yofel, changing of what?
[10:03] <soee> good morning
[10:03] <lordievader> Morning
[10:28] <Riddell> morning
[10:30] <lordievader> Has anything major happend this past week?
[10:49] <Riddell> lordievader: we have missed you
[10:52] <lordievader> Riddell: Busy times?
[10:52] <lordievader> Currently making an image of the 13.04 daily. :)
[11:48] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:14] <sheytan> apachelogger: ping pong
[13:08] <yofel> !testers | someone please test my digikam backports for 12.04 and 12.10 in ppa:yofel/staging1
[13:09] <apachelogger> sheytan: yuz?
[13:09] <yofel> if you can verify that lcms works perfect
[13:09] <yofel> and disable the PPA after that
[13:09] <BluesKaj> I don't have video camera on my setup, so I'll pass on that one
[13:11] <Riddell> yofel: no testing needed on raring?
[13:11] <yofel> raring's already uploaded
[13:11] <sheytan> apachelogger: you didn't tell me if you like the last version of ldm
[13:14] <BluesKaj> oops didn't realize digikam is a photo organizer etc .. i just store my photos in folders according event-dates
[13:14] <apachelogger> sheytan: like it
[13:14] <apachelogger> sheytan: but the system options (shutdown,reboot,sleep) should be in a menu
[13:14] <apachelogger> not rolled out
[13:15] <Riddell> where are we with afiestas's user config tool?
[13:16] <sheytan> apachelogger: but the rolled one is a cool thing i guess
[13:16] <sheytan> it's something new
[13:16] <sheytan> but ofcourse we can have a popup
[13:17] <apachelogger> if you roll it out you need to put text to the icons
[13:55] <ovidiu-florin> care e diferența dintre kmail și kmail2?
[13:55] <ovidiu-florin> hello world :D
[13:55] <ovidiu-florin> sorry, wrong channel ^^
[14:01] <lordievader> Hey ovidiu-florin, how are you doing?
[14:01] <ovidiu-florin> sorry I dissapeared for a while... had some exams...
[14:02] <ovidiu-florin> now I'm preparing for GSOC
[14:03] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: GSOC? What is that?
[14:04] <ovidiu-florin> google summer of code
[14:04] <ovidiu-florin> I want to participate to some KDE projects....
[14:04] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: Ah oke, nice! Good luck!
[14:04] <ovidiu-florin> but I don't really have the time to study the KDE techbase...
[14:04] <ovidiu-florin> :(
[14:07] <shadeslayer> yofel: yeah, I have a package ready, will upload to my PPA for testing
[14:07] <Riddell> shadeslayer: package of what?
[14:07] <shadeslayer> poppler
[14:26] <ScottK> yofel: There's two kde-wallpaper's in the queue.  Which one do I want?
[14:27] <yofel> ScottK: I only see one
[14:28] <ScottK> yofel: Nevermind.  I can't read.
[14:28] <ScottK> Thanks.
[14:28] <yofel> ^^
[14:31] <sheytan> apachelogger: ok, ive talked to ldm ppl and we will have that theme today i hope :)
[14:58] <mgraesslin> any updates on the live cd doesn't use compositing issue?
[15:08] <Quintasan> yofel: Do you use x-swat ppa?
[15:09] <yofel> no
[15:09] <Quintasan> I have like weird compositing
[15:09] <yofel> using what driver?
[15:09] <Quintasan> I believe the intel magic
[15:09] <Quintasan> since the nvidia card is turned off according to bbswitch
[15:11] <Quintasan> yofel, mgraesslin: http://i.imgur.com/Le7bGLd.png
[15:11] <Quintasan> any idea what might be causing it to look like this?
[15:11] <Quintasan> mgraesslin: also, I just installed 12.10 and I had compositing on
[15:11] <yofel> I've seen that in Virtualbox with Xrandr
[15:11] <mgraesslin> looks like a Plasma theme issue
[15:12] <Quintasan> hmm
[15:12] <Quintasan> I reapplied the theme
[15:12] <Quintasan> still looks like http://i.imgur.com/2CzYwab.png
[15:12] <yofel> is that xrandr or opengl?
[15:12] <yofel> erm
[15:12] <yofel> Xrender
[15:13] <Quintasan> how do I check that?
[15:13] <yofel> desktop effects -> advanced
[15:13] <Quintasan> OpenGL
[15:13] <Quintasan> with raster
[15:13] <yofel> weird
[15:14] <Quintasan> wat
[15:14] <Quintasan> I changed it to Native
[15:14] <Quintasan> then back to Raster
[15:14] <Quintasan> and it fixed itself
[15:14] <Quintasan> I thinl
[15:14] <Quintasan> think*
[15:14] <yofel> ...
[15:14] <Quintasan> yeah
[15:18] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: see QA page
[15:18] <shadeslayer> no errors like last week :P
[15:21] <yofel> shadeslayer: good, now please fix the log file mime type...
[15:22] <shadeslayer> he
[15:22] <shadeslayer> heh
[15:22] <shadeslayer> don't really know how to fix that, it's what apt sets
[15:24] <yofel> shadeslayer: has nothing to do with apt http://redmine.lighttpd.net/projects/1/wiki/Mimetype_assignDetails
[15:25] <shadeslayer> ah
[15:25] <shadeslayer> I see
[15:25] <yofel> application/octet-stream is a bit annoying for the log files
[15:25] <shadeslayer> roger
[15:47] <apachelogger> shadow on the wall
[15:48]  * apachelogger really not in the mood to unbreak things
[15:48] <apachelogger> -.-
[16:02] <Riddell> hmm I wanted to see if this guy was right about pulseaudio being needed by qtmultimediakit
[16:02] <Riddell> but turns out nothing uses qtmultimediakit
[16:02] <yofel> hm...
[16:02] <yofel> python-kde4: /usr/lib/kde4/kpythonpluginfactory.so
[16:03] <yofel> $ ldd /usr/lib/kde4/kpythonpluginfactory.so | grep py
[16:03] <yofel>         libpython3.3m.so.1.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpython3.3m.so.1.0 (0x00007f3b628e4000)
[16:03] <yofel> ScottK: shouldn't ^ be linked against python2 ?
[16:07] <shadeslayer> yofel: hm, doesn't seem to work
[16:08] <yofel> hm, dunno then
[16:09] <shadeslayer> http://paste.kde.org/680996/
[16:09] <shadeslayer> when using the config sample from the page you linked to
[16:11] <apachelogger> Riddell: plasma-active uses it
[16:11] <Riddell> apachelogger: any idea why?
[16:11] <apachelogger> or rather their intro plugin does
[16:11] <apachelogger> s/plugin/plasmoid
[16:12] <apachelogger> Riddell: cause you cannot do qml with phonon4
[16:12] <Riddell> fair enough
[16:12] <apachelogger> well you can, just not with native video drawing
[16:12] <apachelogger> actually that is not true either
[16:12] <apachelogger> you can but you cannot explicitly create an item to do native video drawing :P
[16:13] <apachelogger> fwiw though last I looked at the qtmm code there was no explicitly PA code
[16:13] <apachelogger> it only linked against gstreamer
[16:15] <apachelogger> oh it does now
[16:15] <Quintasan> apachelogger: you said I should send mail to kde-promo if I want to know if someone is up for giving a lecture?
[16:15]  * Quintasan can't search quassel logs
[16:15] <apachelogger> yah
[16:15] <Quintasan> k
[16:15] <Quintasan> thanks
[16:16] <shadeslayer> yofel: fixed
[16:16] <yofel> shadeslayer++
[16:17] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: what's blocking the webcam stuff in ubiqity?
[16:17] <shadeslayer> now to figure out what include_shell "/usr/share/lighttpd/create-mime.assign.pl" does
[16:17] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: lazyness :P
[16:17] <apachelogger> k
[16:17]  * apachelogger joins the lazyness
[16:22] <shadeslayer> yofel: I just added the log suffix to /etc/mime.types
[16:22] <yofel> hah
[16:24] <apachelogger> Oo
[16:25] <shadeslayer> anyway, off to dinner
[16:37] <Riddell> "fatbuttlarry@gmail.com has been removed from kubuntu-devel"  hmm, probably not a great loss
[17:01] <Riddell> ubiquity/frontend/kde_ui.py:95:80: E501 line too long (80 > 79 characters)
[17:01] <Riddell> agateau fails at the first testing with ubiquity :)
[17:14] <ScottK> yofel: It should.
[17:14] <yofel> meh
[17:15] <Riddell> agateau: very important fixes bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~jr/ubiquity/layout-refresh-pep8-fixes
[17:15] <Riddell> pep8 stops anarchy breaking lose
[17:28] <yofel> ScottK: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/130542080/buildlog_ubuntu-raring-amd64.pykde4_4%3A4.10.0-0ubuntu1_UPLOADING.txt.gz
[17:28] <yofel> both 2.7 and 3.3 install /build/buildd/pykde4-4.10.0/debian/tmp/usr/lib/kde4/kpythonpluginfactory.so, so the 2.7 one is overwritten by the 3.3 one
[17:29] <ScottK> Oh.
[17:29] <ScottK> Need to fix that.  This would explain the problem people have been having with python kcms.
[17:32] <yofel> That might fix a lot of things. Noticed that when looking at bug 1131647 - which makes no sense just looking at the code
[17:38] <ScottK> I'm sick today, so no promises if I can get to it today or not.  Anyone else should feel free.
[18:15] <Quintasan> Riddell: how are business cards?
[19:23] <Quintasan> ScottK: You got a rough idea why that python magic does not work? I'd like to gather information before I even attempt descending into that madness
[19:24] <yofel> Quintasan: what python magic?
[19:24] <ScottK> Quintasan: I think yofel's diagnosis is correct.  The upstream build system installs in the same place, so the 2.7 one is overrwitten before the python magic can happen
[19:24] <yofel> ^
[19:25] <Quintasan> yofel: did you get down to fixing that?
[19:25] <Quintasan> I have some time I should use learn for uni so I figured I can do something elsr
[19:25] <yofel> not really, I'm trying to fix digikam's lcms support *properly*
[19:25] <Quintasan> :P
[19:25] <Quintasan> I'll take a look when I get home
[19:26] <ScottK> Quintasan: It'll take some debian/rules fun to move it out of the way.
[19:28] <yofel> installing 3.3 into a seperate folder and taking the needed files from there would probably be the easiest solution
[23:33] <apachelogger> yofel, ScottK: that needs broader handling upstream
[23:34] <apachelogger> i.e. kpythonplugin really should have been kpython2plugin and kpython3plugin
[23:34] <ScottK> Sure.  Their answer right now will be "we don't support building for multiple python versions"
[23:34] <apachelogger> also components using it need to use any such naming
[23:34] <apachelogger> ScottK: that's no answer that's BS
[23:34] <apachelogger> you cannot call the p3 build kpythonplugin
[23:34]  * ScottK agrees.
[23:34] <apachelogger> that is all sorts of wrong
[23:35] <apachelogger> as an application loading the plugin will expect it to parse python2
[23:35] <ScottK> Except you can, because the .so file will be named differently.
[23:35] <apachelogger> which it cannot do because it's a python3 env in that secnario
[23:35] <apachelogger> so the least they need to do is give it a different name
[23:36] <apachelogger> ScottK: that's what shoudl be the case, yes
[23:36] <ScottK> It'll be kpythonplugin.3.3m.so
[23:36] <ScottK> Which python won't even see as a valid name.
[23:36] <yofel> question is why it's then even building the unversioned one for 3.3
[23:36] <ScottK> We're building both python-kde and python3-pykde.
[23:37] <ScottK> Each should have an appropriate version in it.
[23:37] <apachelogger> ohm
[23:37] <yofel> yes, but fact is that we get kpythonpluginfactory.so twice
[23:37] <yofel> which is what caused the mess in the first place
[23:37] <ScottK> Which is wrong.  The python3.3 one should be renamed.
[23:37] <apachelogger> ScottK: python does not laod that so
[23:37] <ScottK> (with the extension)
[23:37] <ScottK> Oh.
[23:37] <apachelogger> kde does
[23:37] <apachelogger> it's a kcm thingy or something
[23:37] <ScottK> Right.
[23:38] <apachelogger> shoudl be name kpythonplugin3 btw
[23:38] <ScottK> OK.
[23:38] <apachelogger> or python3plugin, not full version anyway
[23:38] <ScottK> That would definitely be cleaner.
[23:38] <apachelogger> the base line of the interpreter is important here
[23:38] <apachelogger> so you can then say in your desktopfile
[23:38] <ScottK> Someone should ask upstream what the prefer.
[23:38] <apachelogger> X-KDE-Plugin=kpython3plugin
[23:39] <apachelogger> ...indicating that your app/plasmoid/whatever requires a python3 interpreter
[23:39] <apachelogger> FWIW that requirement possibly applies to more than just the kpythonplugin so