[00:00] worst case you'll have to put a full copy of the text in the copyright file [00:00] ya [00:03] yofel: i am almost finished, only that thired party dir is left, i can tell that the copyright thing is a complete mess [00:03] you always find fun things when reading licenses [00:03] ya :) [00:03] like this apsl thing... [00:06] this is bsd-4-clause AND apsl-2.0 right? http://paste.kde.org/680378 [00:06] yofel: ya [00:06] yofel: two new blocks have to be created === murthy is now known as murthy_ [00:31] good night everyone [01:08] yofel: Thanks. [02:34] Riddell, shadeslayer yofel I found it qute weird. In "Membership" part of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings it says "Note: Don't forget to join the ~kubuntu-members team on launchpad" that doesn't really make sense right? It is a restricted team and basically if you have joined the team you are a Kubuntu member already what's the point of going through a meeting? This needs clarification [02:35] s/qute/quite [07:48] Good morning [08:04] morning [08:20] smartboyhw: might need changing as I believe it was just moderated in the past [09:35] yofel, changing of what? [10:03] good morning [10:03] Morning [10:28] morning [10:30] Has anything major happend this past week? [10:49] lordievader: we have missed you [10:52] Riddell: Busy times? [10:52] Currently making an image of the 13.04 daily. :) === Adityab_ is now known as Adityab [11:48] Hey all [12:14] apachelogger: ping pong [13:08] !testers | someone please test my digikam backports for 12.04 and 12.10 in ppa:yofel/staging1 [13:08] someone please test my digikam backports for 12.04 and 12.10 in ppa:yofel/staging1: Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan, lordievader for information. [13:09] sheytan: yuz? [13:09] if you can verify that lcms works perfect [13:09] and disable the PPA after that [13:09] I don't have video camera on my setup, so I'll pass on that one [13:11] yofel: no testing needed on raring? [13:11] raring's already uploaded [13:11] apachelogger: you didn't tell me if you like the last version of ldm [13:14] oops didn't realize digikam is a photo organizer etc .. i just store my photos in folders according event-dates [13:14] sheytan: like it [13:14] sheytan: but the system options (shutdown,reboot,sleep) should be in a menu [13:14] not rolled out [13:15] where are we with afiestas's user config tool? [13:16] apachelogger: but the rolled one is a cool thing i guess [13:16] it's something new [13:16] but ofcourse we can have a popup [13:17] if you roll it out you need to put text to the icons [13:55] care e diferența dintre kmail și kmail2? [13:55] hello world :D [13:55] sorry, wrong channel ^^ [14:01] Hey ovidiu-florin, how are you doing? [14:01] sorry I dissapeared for a while... had some exams... [14:02] now I'm preparing for GSOC [14:03] ovidiu-florin: GSOC? What is that? [14:04] google summer of code [14:04] I want to participate to some KDE projects.... [14:04] ovidiu-florin: Ah oke, nice! Good luck! [14:04] but I don't really have the time to study the KDE techbase... [14:04] :( [14:07] yofel: yeah, I have a package ready, will upload to my PPA for testing [14:07] shadeslayer: package of what? [14:07] poppler [14:26] yofel: There's two kde-wallpaper's in the queue. Which one do I want? [14:27] ScottK: I only see one [14:28] yofel: Nevermind. I can't read. [14:28] Thanks. [14:28] ^^ [14:31] apachelogger: ok, ive talked to ldm ppl and we will have that theme today i hope :) [14:58] any updates on the live cd doesn't use compositing issue? [15:08] yofel: Do you use x-swat ppa? [15:09] no [15:09] I have like weird compositing [15:09] using what driver? [15:09] I believe the intel magic [15:09] since the nvidia card is turned off according to bbswitch [15:11] yofel, mgraesslin: http://i.imgur.com/Le7bGLd.png [15:11] any idea what might be causing it to look like this? [15:11] mgraesslin: also, I just installed 12.10 and I had compositing on [15:11] I've seen that in Virtualbox with Xrandr [15:11] looks like a Plasma theme issue [15:12] hmm [15:12] I reapplied the theme [15:12] still looks like http://i.imgur.com/2CzYwab.png [15:12] is that xrandr or opengl? [15:12] erm [15:12] Xrender [15:13] how do I check that? [15:13] desktop effects -> advanced [15:13] OpenGL [15:13] with raster [15:13] weird [15:14] wat [15:14] I changed it to Native [15:14] then back to Raster [15:14] and it fixed itself [15:14] I thinl [15:14] think* [15:14] ... [15:14] yeah [15:18] Quintasan: see QA page [15:18] no errors like last week :P [15:21] shadeslayer: good, now please fix the log file mime type... [15:22] he [15:22] heh [15:22] don't really know how to fix that, it's what apt sets [15:24] shadeslayer: has nothing to do with apt http://redmine.lighttpd.net/projects/1/wiki/Mimetype_assignDetails [15:25] ah [15:25] I see [15:25] application/octet-stream is a bit annoying for the log files [15:25] roger [15:47] shadow on the wall [15:48] * apachelogger really not in the mood to unbreak things [15:48] -.- [16:02] hmm I wanted to see if this guy was right about pulseaudio being needed by qtmultimediakit [16:02] but turns out nothing uses qtmultimediakit [16:02] hm... [16:02] python-kde4: /usr/lib/kde4/kpythonpluginfactory.so [16:03] $ ldd /usr/lib/kde4/kpythonpluginfactory.so | grep py [16:03] libpython3.3m.so.1.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpython3.3m.so.1.0 (0x00007f3b628e4000) [16:03] ScottK: shouldn't ^ be linked against python2 ? [16:07] yofel: hm, doesn't seem to work [16:08] hm, dunno then [16:09] http://paste.kde.org/680996/ [16:09] when using the config sample from the page you linked to [16:11] Riddell: plasma-active uses it [16:11] apachelogger: any idea why? [16:11] or rather their intro plugin does [16:11] s/plugin/plasmoid [16:12] Riddell: cause you cannot do qml with phonon4 [16:12] fair enough [16:12] well you can, just not with native video drawing [16:12] actually that is not true either [16:12] you can but you cannot explicitly create an item to do native video drawing :P [16:13] fwiw though last I looked at the qtmm code there was no explicitly PA code [16:13] it only linked against gstreamer [16:15] oh it does now [16:15] apachelogger: you said I should send mail to kde-promo if I want to know if someone is up for giving a lecture? [16:15] * Quintasan can't search quassel logs [16:15] yah [16:15] k [16:15] thanks [16:16] yofel: fixed [16:16] shadeslayer++ [16:17] shadeslayer: what's blocking the webcam stuff in ubiqity? [16:17] now to figure out what include_shell "/usr/share/lighttpd/create-mime.assign.pl" does [16:17] apachelogger: lazyness :P [16:17] k [16:17] * apachelogger joins the lazyness [16:22] yofel: I just added the log suffix to /etc/mime.types [16:22] hah [16:24] Oo [16:25] anyway, off to dinner [16:37] "fatbuttlarry@gmail.com has been removed from kubuntu-devel" hmm, probably not a great loss [17:01] ubiquity/frontend/kde_ui.py:95:80: E501 line too long (80 > 79 characters) [17:01] agateau fails at the first testing with ubiquity :) [17:14] yofel: It should. [17:14] meh [17:15] agateau: very important fixes bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~jr/ubiquity/layout-refresh-pep8-fixes [17:15] pep8 stops anarchy breaking lose [17:28] ScottK: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/130542080/buildlog_ubuntu-raring-amd64.pykde4_4%3A4.10.0-0ubuntu1_UPLOADING.txt.gz [17:28] both 2.7 and 3.3 install /build/buildd/pykde4-4.10.0/debian/tmp/usr/lib/kde4/kpythonpluginfactory.so, so the 2.7 one is overwritten by the 3.3 one [17:29] Oh. [17:29] Need to fix that. This would explain the problem people have been having with python kcms. [17:32] That might fix a lot of things. Noticed that when looking at bug 1131647 - which makes no sense just looking at the code [17:32] bug 1131647 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "Python version mismatches causes "Could not create script engine" errors" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1131647 [17:38] I'm sick today, so no promises if I can get to it today or not. Anyone else should feel free. [18:15] Riddell: how are business cards? [19:23] ScottK: You got a rough idea why that python magic does not work? I'd like to gather information before I even attempt descending into that madness [19:24] Quintasan: what python magic? [19:24] Quintasan: I think yofel's diagnosis is correct. The upstream build system installs in the same place, so the 2.7 one is overrwitten before the python magic can happen [19:24] ^ [19:25] yofel: did you get down to fixing that? [19:25] I have some time I should use learn for uni so I figured I can do something elsr [19:25] not really, I'm trying to fix digikam's lcms support *properly* [19:25] :P [19:25] I'll take a look when I get home [19:26] Quintasan: It'll take some debian/rules fun to move it out of the way. [19:28] installing 3.3 into a seperate folder and taking the needed files from there would probably be the easiest solution [23:33] yofel, ScottK: that needs broader handling upstream [23:34] i.e. kpythonplugin really should have been kpython2plugin and kpython3plugin [23:34] Sure. Their answer right now will be "we don't support building for multiple python versions" [23:34] also components using it need to use any such naming [23:34] ScottK: that's no answer that's BS [23:34] you cannot call the p3 build kpythonplugin [23:34] * ScottK agrees. [23:34] that is all sorts of wrong [23:35] as an application loading the plugin will expect it to parse python2 [23:35] Except you can, because the .so file will be named differently. [23:35] which it cannot do because it's a python3 env in that secnario [23:35] so the least they need to do is give it a different name [23:36] ScottK: that's what shoudl be the case, yes [23:36] It'll be kpythonplugin.3.3m.so [23:36] Which python won't even see as a valid name. [23:36] question is why it's then even building the unversioned one for 3.3 [23:36] We're building both python-kde and python3-pykde. [23:37] Each should have an appropriate version in it. [23:37] ohm [23:37] yes, but fact is that we get kpythonpluginfactory.so twice [23:37] which is what caused the mess in the first place [23:37] Which is wrong. The python3.3 one should be renamed. [23:37] ScottK: python does not laod that so [23:37] (with the extension) [23:37] Oh. [23:37] kde does [23:37] it's a kcm thingy or something [23:37] Right. [23:38] shoudl be name kpythonplugin3 btw [23:38] OK. [23:38] or python3plugin, not full version anyway [23:38] That would definitely be cleaner. [23:38] the base line of the interpreter is important here [23:38] so you can then say in your desktopfile [23:38] Someone should ask upstream what the prefer. [23:38] X-KDE-Plugin=kpython3plugin [23:39] ...indicating that your app/plasmoid/whatever requires a python3 interpreter [23:39] FWIW that requirement possibly applies to more than just the kpythonplugin so === Mamarok_ is now known as Mamarok