[00:42] <jerknextdoor> Yesterday my wifi started randomly disconnected, but it would reconnect after disabling and re-enabling networking.  Today, it doesn't seem to connect to my router with WPA, but connects to another router without any security.  Could someone point me in the right direction?
[00:52] <jerknextdoor> Here is everything that's updated in the last two days on my machine.  http://pastebin.com/4AVLE9J8 and here is the output of dmesg:  http://pastebin.com/3gb9uuN7
[02:46] <myk_robinson> evening
[02:47] <myk_robinson> Having an issue with 13.04 not being able to make startup usb sticks, and I don't have a DVD handy. Is there a way to upgrade my son's 12.04 to the current 13.04?
[03:00] <IdleOne> 13.04 is not current
[03:00] <IdleOne> err, thanks for waiting
[03:09] <vivid> well..i dont know about that.  but you should have some kind of specific reason for upgrading to it.  12.04 is fully suitable
[05:56] <elky> what happened to indicator-multiload? :-/
[06:21] <elky> nevermind
[10:40] <alankila> Does anybody know how the mac iso differs from the pc iso for raring?
[11:06] <foobar123> the current nightly build seems to have a broken installer, is that correct?
[11:07] <foobar123> it hangs on the second page, where it checks available disk space, device plugged in, etc.
[11:37] <alankila> I experienced this on the macbook
[11:37] <alankila> but oddly, quitting the installer and restarting it, I was able to get past that
[11:38] <alankila> I am just now in a fresh raring on macbook air, though the nouveau driver works so poorly that it is a miracle I managed to complete the installer before the display got messed up somehow
[11:43] <alankila> but other than that, this looks totally usable! I'm actually impressed. The Lion scrolling direction is supported too, which is a relief, as I don't need to get used to two different scrolling behaviors.
[11:48] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:00] <njin> can someone reply this (just open an mp3 file with Videos to see if it hung)
[12:01] <njin> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/1132538
[12:01] <njin> just to verify that isn't mine broken
[12:01] <njin> reply/reproduce
[12:22] <hyper_ch> hi there, can't login to cups.... always get username/pwd rejected
[12:22] <hyper_ch> added my user to lpadmin and als set password for root but neither works
[13:40] <hyper_ch> so, almost everythign runs again on Raring... except TB often freezes and Akregator doesn't accept a certificate
[15:45] <ritz_> hi, where is qemu-kvm-spice ?
[15:45] <ritz_> Note, selecting 'qemu-kvm' instead of 'qemu-kvm-spice'
[15:55] <tux_> do i have to create an launchpad account to file a bug?
[15:58] <genii-around> Yes
[15:59] <tux_> :/
[20:27] <Bauer1> hello guys :) I seem to have problems with Java (OpenJDK 7) installation - the Java verification page is not working on Chrome, and FireFox
[20:27] <Bauer1> I am not sure what else to try.. the troubleshooting FAQ is not helpful for this situation
[20:28] <Bauer1> what can I do or try to diagnose the cause and resolve it?
[20:41] <Bauer1> ok, and I cant figure out how to report a bug in launchpad for ubuntu :S it leads me to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs instead of bug report form
[20:42] <Bauer1> which isnt helpful, since in this case its not applciation crash, not system crash (not sure actually) and I dont know which package it is
[20:42] <Bauer1> I just know which steps to reproduce its, and the symptom
[20:45] <bjsnider> ubuntu-bug package
[20:48] <Bauer1> thanks, I found the report window.. it was behind a few pop up windows on another screen
[20:49] <bjsnider> yeah, that happens
[20:49] <bjsnider> that's what's good about the gnome-shell
[20:49] <Bauer1> bjsnider, how do you recommend to properly install Java? using that Ubuntu Software Centre, or command line apt-get?
[20:49] <bjsnider> same th ing
[20:50] <Bauer1> you sure? I experience that the GUI thing is very slow, and takes forever to "applying settings"... when the CMd line equivalent does it 10 times faster
[20:50] <bjsnider> ever since oracle changed the bloody license canonical can't keep it in partner anymore, so if you want the oracle version you have to go to the cloud to get it
[20:50] <Bauer1> one time it even got stuck, I couldnt use apt-get until I rebooted cause I couldnt close that GUI package manager
[20:51] <Bauer1> what do you mean? I am not familiar with oracle java vs other javas...
[20:52] <bjsnider> well, oracle bought java when it bought sun
[20:52] <bjsnider> sun used to let canonical keep an official java in the ubuntu partner repo, but that ain't not the case no more
[20:52] <bjsnider> icedtea and so forth are gnu/linux variants
[20:53] <Bauer1> hmmm, why they do that? are those variants 100% compatible with the "real" java?
[20:54] <Bauer1> or do you recommend to manually download and install Oracle java?
[20:54] <Bauer1> for production stability
[20:56] <bjsnider> openjdk isn't oracle's java in other words
[20:56] <Bauer1> This is the page I followed originally: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - installed only openjdk7-7-jre and the plugin
[20:57] <Bauer1> aha, so this could be the reason why Juniper's SSL VPN is not working for me?
[20:57] <bjsnider> if openjdk could do everything oracle's java can do i guess we wouldn't need oracle's java
[20:57] <bjsnider> this is a huge hornet's nest btw, if you haven't guessed
[20:59] <Bauer1> and I fell stright for it, in the first attempt :) that ubuntu page is not clear enough.. gonna try following its instruction for oracle's java 7 now
[20:59] <bjsnider> this is all thanks to someone at sun thinking it was a good idea to create the CDDL, and to make it incompatible, mutually exclusive to the GPL, and then license all future sun projects under it, for extra special fun
[21:00] <Bauer1> maybe doing that will eventually doom java.. we can hope :)
[21:00] <Bauer1> but not likely.. too many programmers and huge corporations invested with it
[21:01] <bjsnider> doom java? it's on something like, what, 20 trillion devices?
[21:01] <bjsnider> it's not going anywhere
[21:38] <Bauer1> thanks bjsnider , now java test works in Firefox but not in Chrome stil :( does it work for you?
[21:39] <Bauer1> the java test page crashes the tab in Chrome
[21:43] <bjsnider> i'm not using oracle java
[21:43] <bjsnider> doesn't matter to me as much
[21:48] <Bauer1> what about PDF? the built in viewer lacks the hand tool - I cant "scroll" documents using mouse click with a hand inside documents.. very annoying as I am used to go through some books this way..
[21:48] <Bauer1> usually I was using Foxit reader.. any suggestions on this?
[21:58] <jbicha> Bauer1: you can either go to Edit>Preferences>Applications to customize what Firefox does with PDFs or set pdfjs.disabled to false in about:config