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ttotiHey guys :)02:11
Doug__I am trying to get my Webcam to work. Does anyone have suggestions on a program or pathway to get it to work?02:47
duanedesignthe best application to test your webcam is cheese02:49
duanedesignit is a bare bones app so you can make sure whether it is the setup or skype for example that is not working02:50
duanedesignDoug__: is it a built in webcan02:50
Doug__it is a stand alone web cam02:52
duanedesigndo you know the brand/model02:52
Doug__Phillips webcam spc1000NC02:53
Doug__ill try cheese here in a second02:53
Doug__I downloaded it but the program wont launch02:55
* duanedesign looking02:55
duanedesignDoug__: the driver, i think, should already be loaded02:57
Doug__No cheese loaded02:57
Doug__it was for download02:57
Doug__program wont launch02:57
duanedesignit looks like it uses the uvcvideo driver02:59
duanedesigni am looking where to get the latest03:02
duanedesignlooks like this is the website03:03
duanedesignhttp://www.ideasonboard.org/uvc/03:03
duanedesignacording to that page the camera is supported by the Linux UVC driver03:06
duanedesignit says that driver is installed in all kernels greater then 2.603:09
Doug__umm03:10
Doug__I ran the comannd in terminal and it said it needed a password03:11
duanedesignuse your login password03:12
duanedesignif you run the command:   lspci -k03:12
duanedesignin a Terminal it should show your webcan and what driver, if any, it is using03:13
Doug__It doesnt show a web cam03:15
Doug__ait doesnt give me the option to sign on03:15
Doug__Do I have to do that first03:15
duanedesignDoug__: hmm, sorry it does not look like it will show up, my bad03:15
duanedesignlsusb03:15
duanedesignthat will show if it is being recognized03:16
Doug__it sees it on that command03:16
duanedesignok03:16
duanedesignDoug__: might try:   gstreamer-properties03:19
duanedesignthen select audio tab and try some of the settings03:19
Doug__I got it to download git03:20
duanedesignif you run gstreamer-properties. The bottom secion Video Input. Try a different setting and click test to test each option03:20
Doug__where do I enter that command03:21
Doug__terminal03:22
duanedesignsorry, yres03:22
duanedesignyes*03:22
duanedesigngstreamer-properties > Video Tab > Video Input03:22
duanedesignthere is a test button to try each setting.03:23
Doug__that worked03:24
duanedesignawesome03:25
duanedesignhopefully :) those settings get saves and cheese should now work03:26
Doug__no03:26
Doug__but closer03:26
dougl_It saved the setting03:30
duanedesignnice03:30
dougl_success03:33
dougl_I got kamerka to work03:33
duanedesign\o/03:35
dougl_1000 karma points for ya03:35
dougl_ty again... im off to do other homework03:36
r4yHello05:17
r4yI was using the number 0 from the right as a keybaord shortcut but now it will not work. I noticed that it highlights with the mouse after I tap the 0 from the right like that of holding down the left mouse button for highlighting05:19
r4yNever mind I got it05:20
r4ySystem, preferences, keyboard, from the tab mouse keys I unchecked pointer can be controlled using the keypad05:22
r4yIt must have been when I was messing around with trying to use the keyboard instead of the mouse so I could play video games from my bed, lol05:23
r4yWhich was months ago though05:23
r4ySince then the motherboard I was using that had s-video doesn't work right so I am using a different motherboard05:24
r4yI was able to use the keyboard for navigating the desktop sort of OK, but I never got to the point were I used the numpad in place of the mouse but I was happy with what I was able to do using the keyboard in place of the mouse so05:26
r4yAnyways, take acare bye05:26
cerebratehello :)05:36
yownWhat program do you recommend for making a USB live, for ubuntu and off ubuntu.10:11
geirhayown: Have you seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization ?10:13
yownIt says "At least 3-5 GB of free space " do they mean on the USB flash drive in question? On the partition the OS is on?10:13
geirhaNo, on the system where you want to modify it.10:14
yownI don't follow what you mean, and that link doesn't seem to talk about USB10:15
yownAlso, major long and complicated10:16
geirhaOh sorry, I think I misread your question10:16
geirhaThere's instructions on the download page on how to put the iso on a usb10:17
geirhahttp://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop10:17
geirha"How to create bootable USB stick >"10:18
yownHow does Live Linux USB Creator compare to unetbootin?10:21
yownAlso, all these links I keep chasing down, bring me to windows based installation, rather then ubuntu based10:22
yowngeirha: ?10:25
geirhayown: There are three such links in the page I gave you. First one's for windows, the other two for osx and ubuntu10:26
geirhaI haven't really tried with different programs myself, I just use the one that comes with ubuntu10:26
yownwhy does it recommend 32 bit?10:28
yownover 64bit10:29
yowngeirha: And how can I write 1's or 0's to a partition?10:30
geirhaNot sure, I just pick the 64-bit version.10:35
geirhawrite 1s or 0s to a partition?10:35
geirhayou want to wipe it?10:36
yownYou know fill, write over, yes10:36
geirhaYou can use the shred command for that10:36
yownI want to wipe before installing live10:36
geirhaoh, then you just want to remove the partition.10:36
yownshred writes 1's or 0's to a partition?10:37
geirhaYou can do that from the installer10:37
geirhayown: By default it writes random bytes to it 3 times or so, then a final run with only zeros10:37
geirhaMainly meant to avoid anyone being able to retrieve whatever sensistive information it had before10:37
yownCan that be used to target a specific partition only, rather then a whole drive?10:38
geirhayes10:38
yownWell this flash drive I got from a fellow that, well I just don't want to chance some weird shit underneath surfacing some day10:38
yowngeirha: So I type shred in a terminal, then drop the address of the location I wish it to shred?10:40
geirhamore or less. Best read the manual first. man shred10:56
yowngeirha: Those manual files aren't very useful, this one is no exception11:04
geirhamanual pages are always useful, in that you get an overview of what the command does11:05
geirhaThe synopsis says  shred [OPTION]... FILE...  which means it must be run with with at least one argument; a filename.11:06
yownGeirha, so could I type shred in terminal, then drop a link to that which I want to shred into the terminal?11:09
geirhadrop a link?11:10
yownYou know, graphically dropping the folder/icon representing the partition/address of that I wish to shred, onto terminal11:11
geirhaa folder won't work, no11:12
geirhayou need to give the actual device node, and you should make sure it's not mounted11:12
yownSo I could drop said partition icon to terminal to create a address after "shred" for shreding that partition?11:13
yowngeirha: as long as it isn't mounted?11:13
geirhaI don't know what dropping the partition icon will produce, but that might work11:15
yowngeirha: hmm, the usb flash drive didn't have a unmount option, I tried eject, but then it vanished from my list11:20
geirhaphusically unplug it, then plug it back in11:21
geirhawhen it's mounted, run just "mount" in a terminal. The last line should be the mount for that usb partition11:22
yowngeirha: didn't you say to unmount it before shreding it?11:23
geirhayes11:24
geirhathis is to find the device name11:24
yownbut I need it mounted, to shred it, right?11:25
yowngeirha:11:25
geirhano, you need it unmounted, but not ejected11:26
yowngeirha: Would that be "safely remove" option then? What would happen if you tried to do it while it was mounted?11:27
geirhayown: it would work, but the mount would be messed up, and there's a risk it could rewrite parts of the data it previously contained, though that's slim. It's mainly to avoid getting a messed up mount11:28
geirhaThe mount will lose the filesystem from under its feet11:29
yowngeirha: is "safely remove" unmounting?11:29
geirhanot sure. Try it.11:29
geirhaIf it does the same as eject, the device node will disappear11:29
yowngeirha: It disappeared with a really funky error "Could not display "computer:///"." " Error: Location is already mounted. Please select another viewer and try again"11:31
yowngeirha: How do I unmount a USB flash drive?11:31
geirhaumount devicenodehere11:32
geirhaThere should be an unmount option in the gui as well, but I can't check at the moment.11:32
yowngeirha: is "/dev/sdb1" the devicenode?  Or "/media/BDE7-02CE"?11:33
geirha/dev/sdb111:33
yownnot for the flash drive, just for the HDD11:33
geirhayou can pass either to the umount command though11:33
geirha/dev/sdb1 is the first partition on the disk /dev/sdb11:34
geirhabased on the mount-point, The /dev/sdb1 partition most likely has a FAT or NTFS filesystem.11:34
yowngeirha: When i ran that unmount command, it disappeared from the list11:34
geirhabut   ls -l /dev/sdb1   in the terminal still shows it, right?11:35
yowngeirha: ls: cannot access /dev/sdb1: No such file or directory11:35
geirhahum, that's odd11:41
yowngeirha: When you run "mount" how do you know which listing is the USB?11:42
geirhathe last one listed is the last one mounted, but in general I just know what to look for11:44
geirhaanother way is to run df on the mount-point. e.g.   df /media/BDE7-02CE/11:44
geirhaor use the mountpoint command11:45
geirhaerr, or not, forget the mountpoint command.11:46
yownhmm, seems mount doesn't see it11:49
yowngeirha: Weird thing is, the drives light is on, unlike when I eject it11:52
geirhaDo you see it with    sudo fdisk -l   ?11:52
geirhaThat lists all disks, and their partitions11:52
yownThat won't fdisk anything I take it? :p11:52
geirhaGood question. Yet another reason to use man.  man fdisk11:54
yowngeirha: You are the one that said I should run a fdisk command, and I told you those mans are horrible, really horribly written12:09
yowninformation is anything but concise, and not at all in simple english12:09
yownAlso, not sure that it is complete either12:10
geirhaWell, my point was, if someone tells you to run some command you're not sure what does, you should double check with the manual that it doesn't do anything bad12:11
geirhaI know I can be trusted, but how would you know I could be trusted?12:11
yowngeirha: No profit for you in screwing me over?12:20
yownAnyway, I tell you, those man files are nearly pointless12:20
geirhaMaybe I need your computer for my world-domination-botnet? ;)12:20
geirhaWell, you'll just have to trust me then :)12:22
yowngeirha: Anyway, it seems the USB flash isn't seen by system, how important exactly is it for it to be unmounted? What is worst case scenario?12:23
yownsince I can't seem to unmount but keep in seen, for the life of me12:24
cerebrateshmitson where blitson17:51
cerebratei need to set my startup sequence to disable my touchpad18:53
cerebrateit interferes with my typing and i have a mouse to use18:53
Guest90967hello20:42
Guest90967???????????20:42
coolroothttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5564842/ it's my laptops distro in a serious messed up :(20:50
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l43lkr0lHi, is there any way to change system language?21:52
l43lkr0lIt's hard to get help on english IRC while using non-english language for the system. Just can't properly describe messages I see, because I don't exactly know how they sound in english.21:53
yownAnyone here?22:38

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