[02:11] <ttoti> Hey guys :)
[02:47] <Doug__> I am trying to get my Webcam to work. Does anyone have suggestions on a program or pathway to get it to work?
[02:49] <duanedesign> the best application to test your webcam is cheese
[02:50] <duanedesign> it is a bare bones app so you can make sure whether it is the setup or skype for example that is not working
[02:50] <duanedesign> Doug__: is it a built in webcan
[02:52] <Doug__> it is a stand alone web cam
[02:52] <duanedesign> do you know the brand/model
[02:53] <Doug__> Phillips webcam spc1000NC
[02:53] <Doug__> ill try cheese here in a second
[02:55] <Doug__> I downloaded it but the program wont launch
[02:55]  * duanedesign looking
[02:57] <duanedesign> Doug__: the driver, i think, should already be loaded
[02:57] <Doug__> No cheese loaded
[02:57] <Doug__> it was for download
[02:57] <Doug__> program wont launch
[02:59] <duanedesign> it looks like it uses the uvcvideo driver
[03:02] <duanedesign> i am looking where to get the latest
[03:03] <duanedesign> looks like this is the website
[03:03] <duanedesign> http://www.ideasonboard.org/uvc/
[03:06] <duanedesign> acording to that page the camera is supported by the Linux UVC driver
[03:09] <duanedesign> it says that driver is installed in all kernels greater then 2.6
[03:10] <Doug__> umm
[03:11] <Doug__> I ran the comannd in terminal and it said it needed a password
[03:12] <duanedesign> use your login password
[03:12] <duanedesign> if you run the command:   lspci -k
[03:13] <duanedesign> in a Terminal it should show your webcan and what driver, if any, it is using
[03:15] <Doug__> It doesnt show a web cam
[03:15] <Doug__> ait doesnt give me the option to sign on
[03:15] <Doug__> Do I have to do that first
[03:15] <duanedesign> Doug__: hmm, sorry it does not look like it will show up, my bad
[03:15] <duanedesign> lsusb
[03:16] <duanedesign> that will show if it is being recognized
[03:16] <Doug__> it sees it on that command
[03:16] <duanedesign> ok
[03:19] <duanedesign> Doug__: might try:   gstreamer-properties
[03:19] <duanedesign> then select audio tab and try some of the settings
[03:20] <Doug__> I got it to download git
[03:20] <duanedesign> if you run gstreamer-properties. The bottom secion Video Input. Try a different setting and click test to test each option
[03:21] <Doug__> where do I enter that command
[03:22] <Doug__> terminal
[03:22] <duanedesign> sorry, yres
[03:22] <duanedesign> yes*
[03:22] <duanedesign> gstreamer-properties > Video Tab > Video Input
[03:23] <duanedesign> there is a test button to try each setting.
[03:24] <Doug__> that worked
[03:25] <duanedesign> awesome
[03:26] <duanedesign> hopefully :) those settings get saves and cheese should now work
[03:26] <Doug__> no
[03:26] <Doug__> but closer
[03:30] <dougl_> It saved the setting
[03:30] <duanedesign> nice
[03:33] <dougl_> success
[03:33] <dougl_> I got kamerka to work
[03:35] <duanedesign> \o/
[03:35] <dougl_> 1000 karma points for ya
[03:36] <dougl_> ty again... im off to do other homework
[05:17] <r4y> Hello
[05:19] <r4y> I was using the number 0 from the right as a keybaord shortcut but now it will not work. I noticed that it highlights with the mouse after I tap the 0 from the right like that of holding down the left mouse button for highlighting
[05:20] <r4y> Never mind I got it
[05:22] <r4y> System, preferences, keyboard, from the tab mouse keys I unchecked pointer can be controlled using the keypad
[05:23] <r4y> It must have been when I was messing around with trying to use the keyboard instead of the mouse so I could play video games from my bed, lol
[05:23] <r4y> Which was months ago though
[05:24] <r4y> Since then the motherboard I was using that had s-video doesn't work right so I am using a different motherboard
[05:26] <r4y> I was able to use the keyboard for navigating the desktop sort of OK, but I never got to the point were I used the numpad in place of the mouse but I was happy with what I was able to do using the keyboard in place of the mouse so
[05:26] <r4y> Anyways, take acare bye
[05:36] <cerebrate> hello :)
[10:11] <yown> What program do you recommend for making a USB live, for ubuntu and off ubuntu.
[10:13] <geirha> yown: Have you seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization ?
[10:13] <yown> It says "At least 3-5 GB of free space " do they mean on the USB flash drive in question? On the partition the OS is on?
[10:14] <geirha> No, on the system where you want to modify it.
[10:15] <yown> I don't follow what you mean, and that link doesn't seem to talk about USB
[10:16] <yown> Also, major long and complicated
[10:16] <geirha> Oh sorry, I think I misread your question
[10:17] <geirha> There's instructions on the download page on how to put the iso on a usb
[10:17] <geirha> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[10:18] <geirha> "How to create bootable USB stick >"
[10:21] <yown> How does Live Linux USB Creator compare to unetbootin?
[10:22] <yown> Also, all these links I keep chasing down, bring me to windows based installation, rather then ubuntu based
[10:25] <yown> geirha: ?
[10:26] <geirha> yown: There are three such links in the page I gave you. First one's for windows, the other two for osx and ubuntu
[10:26] <geirha> I haven't really tried with different programs myself, I just use the one that comes with ubuntu
[10:28] <yown> why does it recommend 32 bit?
[10:29] <yown> over 64bit
[10:30] <yown> geirha: And how can I write 1's or 0's to a partition?
[10:35] <geirha> Not sure, I just pick the 64-bit version.
[10:35] <geirha> write 1s or 0s to a partition?
[10:36] <geirha> you want to wipe it?
[10:36] <yown> You know fill, write over, yes
[10:36] <geirha> You can use the shred command for that
[10:36] <yown> I want to wipe before installing live
[10:36] <geirha> oh, then you just want to remove the partition.
[10:37] <yown> shred writes 1's or 0's to a partition?
[10:37] <geirha> You can do that from the installer
[10:37] <geirha> yown: By default it writes random bytes to it 3 times or so, then a final run with only zeros
[10:37] <geirha> Mainly meant to avoid anyone being able to retrieve whatever sensistive information it had before
[10:38] <yown> Can that be used to target a specific partition only, rather then a whole drive?
[10:38] <geirha> yes
[10:38] <yown> Well this flash drive I got from a fellow that, well I just don't want to chance some weird shit underneath surfacing some day
[10:40] <yown> geirha: So I type shred in a terminal, then drop the address of the location I wish it to shred?
[10:56] <geirha> more or less. Best read the manual first. man shred
[11:04] <yown> geirha: Those manual files aren't very useful, this one is no exception
[11:05] <geirha> manual pages are always useful, in that you get an overview of what the command does
[11:06] <geirha> The synopsis says  shred [OPTION]... FILE...  which means it must be run with with at least one argument; a filename.
[11:09] <yown> Geirha, so could I type shred in terminal, then drop a link to that which I want to shred into the terminal?
[11:10] <geirha> drop a link?
[11:11] <yown> You know, graphically dropping the folder/icon representing the partition/address of that I wish to shred, onto terminal
[11:12] <geirha> a folder won't work, no
[11:12] <geirha> you need to give the actual device node, and you should make sure it's not mounted
[11:13] <yown> So I could drop said partition icon to terminal to create a address after "shred" for shreding that partition?
[11:13] <yown> geirha: as long as it isn't mounted?
[11:15] <geirha> I don't know what dropping the partition icon will produce, but that might work
[11:20] <yown> geirha: hmm, the usb flash drive didn't have a unmount option, I tried eject, but then it vanished from my list
[11:21] <geirha> phusically unplug it, then plug it back in
[11:22] <geirha> when it's mounted, run just "mount" in a terminal. The last line should be the mount for that usb partition
[11:23] <yown> geirha: didn't you say to unmount it before shreding it?
[11:24] <geirha> yes
[11:24] <geirha> this is to find the device name
[11:25] <yown> but I need it mounted, to shred it, right?
[11:25] <yown> geirha:
[11:26] <geirha> no, you need it unmounted, but not ejected
[11:27] <yown> geirha: Would that be "safely remove" option then? What would happen if you tried to do it while it was mounted?
[11:28] <geirha> yown: it would work, but the mount would be messed up, and there's a risk it could rewrite parts of the data it previously contained, though that's slim. It's mainly to avoid getting a messed up mount
[11:29] <geirha> The mount will lose the filesystem from under its feet
[11:29] <yown> geirha: is "safely remove" unmounting?
[11:29] <geirha> not sure. Try it.
[11:29] <geirha> If it does the same as eject, the device node will disappear
[11:31] <yown> geirha: It disappeared with a really funky error "Could not display "computer:///"." " Error: Location is already mounted. Please select another viewer and try again"
[11:31] <yown> geirha: How do I unmount a USB flash drive?
[11:32] <geirha> umount devicenodehere
[11:32] <geirha> There should be an unmount option in the gui as well, but I can't check at the moment.
[11:33] <yown> geirha: is "/dev/sdb1" the devicenode?  Or "/media/BDE7-02CE"?
[11:33] <geirha> /dev/sdb1
[11:33] <yown> not for the flash drive, just for the HDD
[11:33] <geirha> you can pass either to the umount command though
[11:34] <geirha> /dev/sdb1 is the first partition on the disk /dev/sdb
[11:34] <geirha> based on the mount-point, The /dev/sdb1 partition most likely has a FAT or NTFS filesystem.
[11:34] <yown> geirha: When i ran that unmount command, it disappeared from the list
[11:35] <geirha> but   ls -l /dev/sdb1   in the terminal still shows it, right?
[11:35] <yown> geirha: ls: cannot access /dev/sdb1: No such file or directory
[11:41] <geirha> hum, that's odd
[11:42] <yown> geirha: When you run "mount" how do you know which listing is the USB?
[11:44] <geirha> the last one listed is the last one mounted, but in general I just know what to look for
[11:44] <geirha> another way is to run df on the mount-point. e.g.   df /media/BDE7-02CE/
[11:45] <geirha> or use the mountpoint command
[11:46] <geirha> err, or not, forget the mountpoint command.
[11:49] <yown> hmm, seems mount doesn't see it
[11:52] <yown> geirha: Weird thing is, the drives light is on, unlike when I eject it
[11:52] <geirha> Do you see it with    sudo fdisk -l   ?
[11:52] <geirha> That lists all disks, and their partitions
[11:52] <yown> That won't fdisk anything I take it? :p
[11:54] <geirha> Good question. Yet another reason to use man.  man fdisk
[12:09] <yown> geirha: You are the one that said I should run a fdisk command, and I told you those mans are horrible, really horribly written
[12:09] <yown> information is anything but concise, and not at all in simple english
[12:10] <yown> Also, not sure that it is complete either
[12:11] <geirha> Well, my point was, if someone tells you to run some command you're not sure what does, you should double check with the manual that it doesn't do anything bad
[12:11] <geirha> I know I can be trusted, but how would you know I could be trusted?
[12:20] <yown> geirha: No profit for you in screwing me over?
[12:20] <yown> Anyway, I tell you, those man files are nearly pointless
[12:20] <geirha> Maybe I need your computer for my world-domination-botnet? ;)
[12:22] <geirha> Well, you'll just have to trust me then :)
[12:23] <yown> geirha: Anyway, it seems the USB flash isn't seen by system, how important exactly is it for it to be unmounted? What is worst case scenario?
[12:24] <yown> since I can't seem to unmount but keep in seen, for the life of me
[17:51] <cerebrate> shmitson where blitson
[18:53] <cerebrate> i need to set my startup sequence to disable my touchpad
[18:53] <cerebrate> it interferes with my typing and i have a mouse to use
[20:42] <Guest90967> hello
[20:42] <Guest90967> ???????????
[20:50] <coolroot> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5564842/ it's my laptops distro in a serious messed up :(
[21:52] <l43lkr0l> Hi, is there any way to change system language?
[21:53] <l43lkr0l> It's hard to get help on english IRC while using non-english language for the system. Just can't properly describe messages I see, because I don't exactly know how they sound in english.
[22:38] <yown> Anyone here?