[00:00] <dank101> you set samsung
[00:00] <dank101> NOOB
[00:00] <Tigrouzen> ^^
[00:00] <Tigrouzen> doesnt exist your device
[00:01] <Tigrouzen> its name not correct
[00:01] <dank101> what does the scouter say about the facepalm level
[00:01] <Tigrouzen> why he doesnt find it
[00:01] <dank101> ITS OVER 9000!
[00:01] <thththeaddd> http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Pyramid_Info
[00:02] <thththeaddd> it says htc_pyramid and htc_msm8660
[00:02] <thththeaddd> that should be correct
[00:02] <Tigrouzen> ok
[00:02] <Tigrouzen> its jellybean not cm10.1
[00:03] <thththeaddd> thanks
[00:03] <Tigrouzen> i think wiki not updated
[00:03] <Tigrouzen> maybe there's cm10.1 somewhere with different name
[00:04] <Tigrouzen> thththeaddd, other name for thc pyramid ?
[00:04] <Tigrouzen> htc
[00:05] <thththeaddd> it seems to be working now
[00:05] <dank101> ;D
[00:07] <RobbyF> Where do we look for latest updates and changelogs?
[00:08] <dank101> le wiki
[00:09] <mainerror> ogra_: You around?
[00:09] <ogra_> on my way to bed, whats up ?
[00:10] <mainerror> You don't happen to know the QtQuick2 template path?
[00:10] <RobbyF> I assume they havn't pushed out any updates yet.
[00:11] <Tigrouzen> thththeaddd,
[00:11] <Tigrouzen> thththeaddd, https://github.com/Albinoman887/android_device_htc_msm8660-common
[00:12] <Tigrouzen> for cm10.1
[00:12] <ogra_> mainerror, heh, nope
[00:12] <mainerror> Alright, thanks though. :)
[00:12] <mainerror> Good night there.
[00:13] <ogra_> RobbyF, expect daily builds tue. or wed.
[00:13] <RobbyF> thanks, those should be based of raring correct?
[00:13] <ogra_> nope
[00:14] <ogra_> before we can build raring images all the bits of the phablet UI need to go into the ubuntu archive
[00:14] <ogra_> that takes a while
[00:14] <mainerror> plus the Ubuntu SDK has to work on raring too. :D
[00:14] <mainerror> j/k
[00:15] <ogra_> right, i think the Qt5 stuff only entered the archive recently
[00:15] <murdok> thanks all of you seems that works!!!
[00:16] <mainerror> POOOOWW!!! Just found the template path. :)
[00:17]  * ogra_ applauds
[00:18] <mainerror> Did help though. :(
[00:18] <mainerror> Didn't*
[00:18] <dank101> Mainerror!
[00:18] <duce> why are we banned from #ubuntu-phone?
[00:19] <mainerror> duce: because we were nasty.
[00:19] <mainerror> dank101: Yea?
[00:19] <duce> mainerror, I said nothing...
[00:19] <dank101> i love you all!
[00:19] <duce> anyone know why #ubuntu-phone is +i?
[00:19] <mainerror> duce: The channels were merged. That is #ubuntu-phone and #ubuntu-tablet.
[00:19] <mainerror> They were merged into this channel.
[00:20] <duce> ice..
[00:20] <duce> icy*
[00:20] <dank101> anyone with a d2att for testing
[00:21] <dank101> guys?
[00:22] <mainerror> Nope.
[00:22] <dank101> FU-
[00:24] <k1l> !language > dank101
[00:24] <dank101> i bleeped it out...
[00:25] <redeyez88> Hi all
[00:26] <dank101> Yo
[00:26] <redeyez88> Im assuming most of you have installed touch
[00:27] <redeyez88> I just did, had some questions if any of have gotten anywhere
[00:27] <dank101> shoot
[00:28] <redeyez88> Is there a way to edit apps from the Launchbar?
[00:28] <mainerror> dank101: .__.
[00:28] <redeyez88> I know how to remove apps via ssh, and the preloaded files they have there
[00:28] <redeyez88> But im wondering if theres more functionality than ubuntu's wiki has posted on how to tweak things
[00:31] <redeyez88> anyone?
[00:31] <dank101> nope
[00:31] <redeyez88> Alright
[00:32] <redeyez88> anyone able to do anything else really with it
[00:32] <redeyez88> Also, isnt this preview supposed to have shell built in on accessable via the phone?
[00:33] <ogra_> redeyez88, nope, you can work via ssh or adb on the device
[00:34] <redeyez88> Alright
[00:34] <redeyez88> how is all of your experiences so far?
[00:34] <ogra_> there is a terminal in the set of wanted core apps but someone has to write it
[00:34] <redeyez88> I see
[00:36] <redeyez88> Also, seems like there is no basic settings app?
[00:44] <ogra_> there is essentially a browser, video player, the desktop shell and a bunch of webapps ...
[00:44] <ogra_> on, and the phone app indeed
[00:45] <ogra_> everything else is largely all mockup atm
[00:45] <Tassadar> remember when ogra_ said he was going to bed? ^^
[00:45] <redeyez88> Its pretty smooth for an alpha too
[00:45] <ogra_> Tassadar, lol
[00:45] <redeyez88> Although its so early, I hope some more functionality comes pretty soon
[00:45] <Tassadar> what, it's not like it's 1:45 AM here!
[00:46] <ogra_> well ...
[00:47] <randomblame> got wifi working and the general layout looks right but applications are weirding out and the keyboard closes when typing on the top row hmm
[00:49] <redeyez88> anyone on Nexus 4?
[00:50] <gennro> finally got a compile to work now
[00:52] <derek> hi, is ubuntu able to emulate android apks?
[00:52] <Guest91436> hi, is ubuntu able to emulate android apks?
[00:52] <ogra_> why would it ? it has .deb's
[00:53] <randomblame> anyone know how to figure out the values for QTWEBKIT_DPR
[00:55] <dank101> No
[00:55] <dank101> Just no
[01:01] <wickwire> Hi everyone, I'm trying to deploy an app to my galaxy nexus, I'm already able to run it on the phone with crtl+F12, but how can I actually install it?
[01:04] <dank101> you can't
[01:04] <dank101> yet
[01:05] <dank101> unless you make a PPA and SSH
[01:05] <wickwire> hm ok
[01:05] <wickwire> I tried activating the experimental options in qt-creator
[01:06] <wickwire> to build c++ projects on the device
[01:06] <wickwire> hm apt-get does update but when trying to install qt5 there, it fails with missing deps
[01:06] <wickwire> ok I will wait
[01:07] <mhall119> wickwire: what's missing?
[01:07] <wickwire> The following packages have unmet dependencies:  libqt5webkit5-dev : Depends: libqt5webkit5 (= 5.0.0-0ubuntu1~quantal1~test5~withdebug~gstabs~patches) but 5.0.0-0ubuntu1~quantal1~test15~withdebug~gstabs~patches is to be installed  [01:05:25] E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. [01:05:25]
[01:08] <mcfly_> i was trying to follow the porting guide and during the make
[01:10] <wickwire> dh_make command not found - when trying to build install app to the GNexus
[01:11] <wickwire> and to run my demo app on the device,
[01:12] <wickwire> I select to run on device, it loads - but only shows a small rectagle preview icon in "Running Apps" section
[01:12] <wickwire> if I open the gallery for instance, then close it,
[01:12] <bgupta> so would "fastboot flash system quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip"
[01:12] <wickwire> then I see my demo app fullscreen
[01:12] <bgupta> err work
[01:12] <wickwire> and it's working!
[01:12] <mcfly_> it throws a error about having a javalib dependency
[01:12] <wickwire> :D
[01:12] <mcfly_> any ideas?
[01:13] <wickwire> ubuntu for phones - on sony tablet S, anyone?
[01:14] <bgupta> anyway to do this just with a number of fast boot commands for g. nexus (GSM)?
[01:14] <bgupta> seems it should in theory be doable
[01:15] <cyberbobbb1> does anyone know if mobile data will work on htc one s with ubunu touch preview?
[01:15] <ogra_> bgupta, you can indeed manually mimic what the phable-flash script does, just look at the source
[01:15] <ogra_> cyberbobbb1, mobile data doesnt work at all
[01:15] <cyberbobbb1> ah not even for nexus?
[01:16] <bgupta> ogra_ know a link, don't have an ubuntu system handy.
[01:16] <ogra_> only GSM calls work ... for data there is only wifi
[01:16] <ogra_> bgupta, its in the phablet-tools PPA, look at the install guide
[01:17] <ogra_> you can just pull the tarball of the source package from there
[01:17] <ogra_> (or check out the code tree with bzr from launchpad)
[01:18] <bgupta> looking like http://ppa.launchpad.net/phablet-team/tools/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/source/Sources.gz
[01:20] <doomlord> how is ubuntu touch for thosewho tried it
[01:20] <Namidairo> barely working
[01:21] <doomlord> anyone coded anything for it yet :)
[01:21] <ogra_> breezing fast
[01:21] <doomlord> i thinnk i'm still more interested in the desktop on n7 at this point
[01:22] <ogra_> they will merge over time
[01:22] <doomlord> if that could dual boot with android .. ;)
[01:22] <gennro> I can't even get the repo to even sync anymore without failing
[01:22] <doomlord> ^  :)
[01:22] <Namidairo> gennro: too bad, someone built the tf700 one before you
[01:22] <ogra_> doomlord, there is a community hack for dualbooting desktop on the n7
[01:23] <ogra_> doomlord, see the install wikipage for it, its linked from there
[01:23] <doomlord> ah that is awesome
[01:23] <duce> ohai
[01:24] <doomlord> it would be nice to see people going the other way i.e. making a regular desktop more touchfriendly one app at a time..and i'm sure you could tweak "expo"/"scale" to make huge sense on a touchscreen
[01:24] <gennro> Namidairo, good cause I am about to give up on this
[01:24] <Namidairo> lol
[01:25] <ogra_> well, i guess in the near future it will be hard to buy a laptop, netbook or monitor withoout touch anymore ... so that will just happen anyway
[01:25] <Namidairo> without it being a chromebook pixel
[01:26] <ogra_> well, mainly because win8 will push manufacturers towards it
[01:26] <doomlord> is the cost of a touchscreen inevitably going to fall away.. touchscreens are  still thicker
[01:26] <Namidairo> they already have
[01:27] <ogra_> but google follos suit and i bet so will apple
[01:27] <Namidairo> xps 12, the newer asus zenbooks...
[01:28] <doomlord> i quite like the lenovo yoga idea
[01:29] <Tassadar> did you try it? I mean, did you have it in your hands?
[01:29] <Tassadar> I did, and it was _heavy_
[01:30] <Tassadar> don't get me wrong, I like it too, but the thing was just too heavy
[01:30] <doomlord> well its heavier than an ipad sure, but its much more of a laptop..
[01:30] <doomlord> with abiliy  to puh
[01:30] <doomlord> push the keyboard away
[01:31] <doomlord> putting a laptop on a desk you want to attach a desktop keyboard usually .. the laptop itself gets in the way
[01:31] <wastrel> i have a laptop on a desk
[01:32] <doomlord> well laptop + extra desktop screen
[01:32] <Tassadar> well, yeah, but what would you use 1.5kg laptop for?
[01:32] <Tassadar> *tablet
[01:32] <Namidairo> as a 1.5kg weapon
[01:32] <Tassadar> then you can just buy table -.-
[01:33] <Namidairo> nobody said it had to be my laptop that im using as a weapon
[01:33] <ogra_> in two years from now you have arm64 quad cores in your phone and a dock .... and ubuntu on it ... who needs a laptop then
[01:33] <doomlord> octocore, get it right
[01:33] <ogra_> heh
[01:34] <Namidairo> developers that actually want to compile something for use on a desktop computer with a x86 arch without having to set up a cross-compiling toolset
[01:34] <doomlord> but agree on the dock idea
[01:34] <doomlord> i want a keyboard dock that places the phonescreen where it can be a trackpad
[01:34] <nikkimccavee> Just installed Touch on my Nexus 7 and couldnt find a way to connect to WPA2 network. Is it the state of affairs or just my h/w glitch?
[01:35] <ogra_> should work fine ...
[01:35] <Namidairo> doomlord: inb4 asus steals the idea for the next padphone
[01:35] <doomlord> heh. i thought of keyboard-on-cover before MS too :)
[01:35] <nikkimccavee> How do I add a hidden network?
[01:38] <duce> nikkimccavee, register your nick....get a SASL plugin for you irc client, set it up, and then connect to freenode using ssl at  p4fsi4ockecnea7l.onion
[01:39] <ogra_> duce, i *think* he meant how to connect to a hidden WLAN SSID :)
[01:39] <nikkimccavee> ogra_: (: thanks (:
[01:40] <nikkimccavee> I apologize for that. I really meant wireless network (:
[01:40] <Namidairo> yes, instead of "how to connect to freenode via tor"
[01:40] <duce> oh
[01:40] <nikkimccavee> but that's a good tip!
[01:40] <nikkimccavee> (:
[01:40] <duce> :)
[01:40] <duce> hidden wifi?
[01:40] <Namidairo> ssl to a hidden service on tor
[01:40] <Namidairo> thats a bit overkill
[01:41] <duce> Namidairo, ssl is so that the exit node does see cleartext
[01:41] <duce> so not over kill
[01:41] <nikkimccavee> yeah I just installed ubuntu touch on my nexus 7 but cant caonnect to any wlan as my ap is hidden
[01:41] <Namidairo> but if its a .onion it never hits an exit node
[01:41] <nikkimccavee> i just couldnt find anything in UI to do it
[01:41] <nikkimccavee> am I missin somthing out?
[01:41] <duce> Namidairo, yes yes...very true, encrypted to the server with .onion
[01:42] <Namidairo> I WIN
[01:42] <duce> so in that case pointless
[01:42] <duce> Namidairo, but...I think it is a tor relay...
[01:42] <duce> so..........not pointless
[01:42] <duce> :)
[01:42] <duce> \:D/
[01:42] <Namidairo> YOU GET NOTHING! YOU LOSE, GOOD DAY SIR.
[01:43] <duce> lol
[01:43] <duce> me------->tor------>freenode-tor-relay----->clearnet freenode
[01:43] <tthead> i have a problem with building ubuntu-touch for the htc pyramid. when i issue the command "brunch" it says the following:
[01:43] <tthead> build/core/product_config.mk:239: *** _nic.PRODUCTS.[[device/htc/pyramid/cm.mk]]: "device/htc/msm8660-common/bcm_hcd.mk" does not exist.
[01:43] <tthead> there is no folder device/htc/msm8660.... i don't know why it wants that. and there is no bcm_hcd.mk anywhere
[01:44] <Namidairo> because you need msm8660-common
[01:44] <Namidairo> https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_htc_msm8660-common
[01:45] <Namidairo> i dont see a cm-10.1 branch for that
[01:45] <Namidairo> so good luck
[01:45] <tthead> there's a jellybean branch
[01:45] <Namidairo> thats a 4.1 one
[01:47] <tthead> ?
[01:47] <Namidairo> if i didn't know better, that wouldn't boot
[01:47] <Namidairo> screen would never come on either
[01:48] <Namidairo> it's also set for the old storage paths
[01:50] <tthead> why is that?
[01:50] <tthead> so i should forget about porting?
[01:51] <Namidairo> you should port it to cm-10.1 first before trying to port to ubuntu touch
[01:58] <cimbor> hi, anyone knows what is exactly the command i must type where the wiki says "brunch <target>"
[01:58] <Namidairo> what is your target device
[01:59] <cimbor> i want to create image for samsung galaxy s2
[01:59] <nikkimccavee> Guys, is there any way to get a console on ubuntu Touch?
[01:59] <cimbor> try to use the adb command
[01:59] <Namidairo> cimbor: WHICH galaxy S2? International, Verizon, MetroPCS...
[01:59] <ogra_> nikkimccavee, adb and ssh ... see the release notes
[01:59] <cimbor> i9100
[02:00] <cimbor> intermational
[02:00] <nikkimccavee> ogra_: oh... totally forgot that adb is running ther Thanks!
[02:00] <Namidairo> you do know that the i9100 is the galaxy
[02:00] <Namidairo> *galaxy s
[02:00] <ogra_> cimbor, please add youself to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devicesif you plan to publish the port
[02:00] <Namidairo> not the galaxy s2
[02:00] <Namidairo> I somehow don't see this one working out
[02:00] <cimbor> my cyanogenmod running is the rom for i9100
[02:01] <Namidairo> oh wait
[02:01] <Namidairo> I was thinking of i9000
[02:01] <cimbor> im pretty sure that its i9100
[02:01] <Namidairo> well you just answered your own question
[02:01] <Namidairo> brunch i9100
[02:02] <ogra_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices has a GT-I9100 port, is that different ?
[02:02] <Namidairo> watch the missing repo errors
[02:02] <cimbor>  SGS II
[02:02] <cimbor> 	
[02:02] <cimbor> i777
[02:02] <cimbor> mine is i9100
[02:03] <sfrique> ali1234, about you instructions on how to build the ubuntu!  After do the comit, you have to repo sync to get the folder  galaxysmtd
[02:03] <sfrique> ali1234,  can you edit your file?
[02:03] <cimbor> repo sync gives errors
[02:03] <ogra_> oh, right, i messed that up
[02:03] <cimbor> error.GitError: manifests rev-list ('^HEAD', '76c770f4f7f6de8c4e748d2634baa8bd2564d527', '--'): fatal: bad revision '^HEAD'
[02:03] <ogra_> yeah, the server is loaded with connections
[02:04] <Namidairo> "how to build the ubuntu"
[02:04] <cimbor> must i commit the changes before doing the brunch command?
[02:05] <Namidairo> did you even clone the repos for device, vendor and kernel
[02:05] <Namidairo> then edit the kernel defconfig, and the device fstab and init.rc?
[02:05] <cimbor> are edited
[02:05] <cimbor> im in the bruch command part
[02:06] <cimbor> dont know what is the target for the bruch command
[02:06] <Namidairo> you've said it 5 times in the last 10 minutes
[02:06] <Namidairo> brunch i9100
[02:06] <dank101> can someone kindly make a galaxy note 10.1 port XD
[02:06] <dank101> my bros tablet is the only one i have
[02:07] <dank101> and my bro will KILL ME if i test ANYTHING on it
[02:07] <cimbor> ** Don't have a product spec for: 'cm_i9100'
[02:07] <cimbor> ** Do you have the right repo manifest?
[02:07] <cimbor> Branches found:
[02:07] <cimbor> cm-10.1
[02:07] <cimbor> jellybean
[02:07] <cimbor> mr1-staging
[02:07] <cimbor> no i9100
[02:09] <ogra_> "From the individual device wiki page (make sure you're using the right wikipage for your device), grab the git repositories that are specific to your device, and update your local manifest.xml...."
[02:09] <ogra_> from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
[02:10] <Namidairo> cimbor: probably because it's looking for a branch called phablet-10.1 at the remote head
[02:11] <Tigrouzen> cimbor, same error
[02:11] <cimbor> then i need to fetch all sources again or what?
[02:11] <ogra_> tead the page
[02:11] <ogra_> *read
[02:11] <ogra_> you need to add the right manifet entries (as the error message says)
[02:12] <cimbor> abi      bootable     device      hardware         Makefile  prebuilts  vendor
[02:12] <cimbor> android  build        external    kernel           packages  sync.sh
[02:12] <cimbor> bionic   development  frameworks  libnativehelper  prebuilt  sync.sh~
[02:12] <Namidairo> i believe the galaxys2 has a device common repo as well
[02:12] <cimbor> these are the dirs i have
[02:12] <cimbor> dont see the manifest now
[02:13] <Namidairo> cd .repo
[02:13] <ogra_> did you read the page ?
[02:13] <Namidairo> evidently not
[02:13] <cimbor> yes, i left last night syncing, and only had the .repo dir
[02:14] <hipboi> cimbor: i did a while true do sync last night
[02:14] <hipboi> still not finished
[02:14] <cimbor> mine is probably unfinished
[02:14] <vanhoof> cimbor: working on the s2 myself right now
[02:14] <hipboi> fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly
[02:15] <cimbor> great
[02:15] <cimbor> <project path="device/samsung/i9100" name="CyanogenMod/android_device_samsung_i9100" remote="github" revision="refs/heads/cm-10.1" />
[02:15] <cimbor>   <project path="device/samsung/galaxys2-common" name="CyanogenMod/android_device_samsung_galaxys2-common" remote="github" revision="refs/heads/cm-10.1" />
[02:15] <cimbor>   <project path="hardware/samsung" name="CyanogenMod/android_hardware_samsung" remote="github" revision="refs/heads/cm-10.1" />
[02:15] <cimbor>   <project path="packages/apps/SamsungServiceMode" name="CyanogenMod/android_packages_apps_SamsungServiceMode" remote="github" revision="refs/heads/cm-10.1" />
[02:15] <cimbor>   <project path="kernel/samsung/smdk4210" name="CyanogenMod/android_kernel_samsung_smdk4210" remote="github" revision="refs/heads/cm-10.1" />
[02:15] <ogra_> err
[02:15] <cimbor> these are the repos i added
[02:15] <ogra_> could you use a pastebin please
[02:15] <cimbor> ok
[02:16] <ogra_> well, did you edit your manifest.xml file with the required data for the device ?
[02:16] <Namidairo> you probs need to comment out samsungservicemode out of a package_include in one of the .mk's as well
[02:16] <vanhoof> cimbor: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5563641/ here
[02:16] <vanhoof> cimbor: got everything else sorted out but having a build failure still
[02:17] <vanhoof> make: *** No rule to make target `/home/vanhoof/scratch/phablet-git/out/target/common/obj/APPS/framework-res_intermediates/src/R.stamp', needed by `/home/vanhoof/scratch/phablet-git/out/target/common/obj/APPS/SamsungServiceMode_intermediates/src/R.stamp'.  Stop.
[02:17] <cimbor> do you have the international s2?
[02:17]  * Namidairo slaps vanhoof 
[02:17] <vanhoof> yeah gsm, from att, i777
[02:17] <Namidairo> SamsungServiceMode is an Android app.
[02:17] <cimbor> i though international was the i9100
[02:18] <Namidairo> how do you expect it to run without dalvik
[02:18] <Namidairo> comment it out
[02:18] <cimbor> its on my cm.dependencies
[02:18] <cimbor> ok
[02:19] <Namidairo> ...
[02:19] <Tigrouzen> cimbor, past your default.xml
[02:20] <Namidairo> PRODUCT_PACKAGES := \
[02:20] <Namidairo>     com.android.future.usb.accessory \
[02:20] <Namidairo>     SamsungServiceMode \
[02:20] <Namidairo> think about it.
[02:21] <cimbor> http://ubuntuone.com/6AhRDmWJD4KBGberjqHc5J
[02:21] <cimbor> my manifest
[02:22] <dank101> doesn't exist
[02:22] <cimbor> repo sync is working again, surely i still need to grab more sources
[02:22] <dank101> Could not locate object
[02:22] <Namidairo> no amount of repo sync does not fix pebkac
[02:22] <dank101> makes it worse
[02:23] <Tigrouzen> cimbor, error
[02:23] <TotalNewbi1> Hello, this is my first time using this chat. I have a Galaxy Nexus GSM from Play Store. I have latest Ubuntu on my laptop freshly installed. My phone is currently in developer mode with USB debugging on. So, When attempting to get Ubuntu Touch Preview on my Nexus device, the termal replies: error: device not found Error while excetuting adb shell getprop ro.cm.device  Make sure the device is connected and viewable by runni
[02:23] <Namidairo> ing adb devices
[02:23] <cimbor> whats your error
[02:23] <TotalNewbi1> Namidairo, are you talking to me? cimbor, are you talking to me?
[02:23] <Tigrouzen> Could not locate object
[02:24] <TotalNewbi1> (Sorry)
[02:24] <cimbor> to Tigrouzen
[02:24] <Tigrouzen> default.xml
[02:24] <Tigrouzen> link
[02:25] <cimbor> http://ubuntuone.com/6AhRDmWJD4KBGberjqHc5J
[02:26] <Tigrouzen> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[02:29] <cimbor> http://pastebin.com/KYfrM3iv
[02:31] <giveen> hwo do we fix the libhybris again?
[02:34] <giveen> bzr branch lp:phablet-extras/libhybris ubuntu/hybris' returned non-zero exit status 127 -> solution?
[02:38] <Tigrouzen> repo init -u git://github.com/CyanogenMod/android.git -b cm-10.1
[02:39] <Tigrouzen> repo init -u git://phablet.ubuntu.com/CyanogenMod/android.git -b cm-10.1
[02:40] <cimbor> i have ran phable-dev-bootstrap -c DIR command to fetch all missing
[03:01] <dank101> slightly dead?
[03:17] <Wowfunhappy> Hey, I feel REALLY stupid coming in here to ask this
[03:17] <Wowfunhappy> but I can't find the actual download link to Ubuntu for Android.
[03:17] <Wowfunhappy> ...can someone direct me? :3
[03:19] <genii-around> Wowfunhappy: There isn't one, currently.
[03:20] <Wowfunhappy> Oh... then why do they have all the other instructions there?
[03:23] <Wowfunhappy> They have all these instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install... why would they do that if there's no download available anyway...?
[03:23] <Wowfunhappy> Plus I thought people were using it...
[03:24] <wastrel> i think there may be some miscommunication
[03:24] <wastrel> there's a thing called "ubuntu for android" which is a thing that is different from "ubuntu touch"
[03:24] <Wowfunhappy> oh, sorry, I meant Ubuntu Touch.
[03:26] <wastrel> so there are install instructions that are officially supported and then there's a bunch of people on xda that roll their own and are working on porting
[03:26] <wastrel> they have direct download instructions and installation instructions
[03:27] <Wowfunhappy> Yeah. I want the official one, as I have a Nexus 4. But I can't find the actual download on the installation page.
[03:28] <wastrel> afaik you use apt and phablet tools to do everything, you don't directly download the image
[03:28] <wastrel> i haven't done it yet :]
[03:28] <IdleOne> if you read the instructions it tells you how to enable the PPA
[03:29] <IdleOne> there is no .iso download if that is what you are looking for
[03:29] <Wowfunhappy> Ohhhh, okay, I was hoping to bypass that since I'm actually on OS X (But now how to flash stuff via adb). That explains why it wasn't on the actual page though, thanks, I was like shooting myself.
[03:29] <Wowfunhappy> I'll go find it on xda, thank you
[03:37] <DeeDee> Hey Guys
[03:41] <Wowfunhappy> If anyone else comes in with the same question I did... this is the link I had needed: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/quantal/mwc-demo/
[03:41] <Wowfunhappy> Thanks again!
[03:48] <doomlord> imagine ubuntu-arm desktop on the xperia z..(1920x1080)  - maybe we just need zoom functionality in eyeballs
[03:48] <doomlord> instead of desktop dock
[03:48] <kingspider> hello
[03:48] <rib_> so
[03:49] <kingspider> anyone alive got a quick question
[03:49] <kingspider> nothing crazy complicated
[03:49] <rib_> is this live ...
[03:49] <kingspider> lol
[03:49] <kingspider> was just wonder if there is gonna be images for crespo of touch os made
[03:49] <kingspider> wondering
[03:50] <rib_> mi 2
[03:50] <bmwracer0> kingspider: I'll be working on it
[03:50] <rib_> touch for mi 2
[03:50] <rib_>  when..
[03:50] <kingspider> kk
[03:51] <kingspider> bmwracer0: theres a few ports on the net but there very limited
[03:51] <bmwracer0> yeah i know
[03:51] <kingspider> well i'm glad knowing its somthing thats being worked on lol
[03:52] <kingspider> need any help ?
[03:52] <rib_> i do
[03:52] <kingspider> whats wrong rib_
[03:52] <rib_> how can i install touch on me phone
[03:52] <rib_> xiaomi mi2
[03:52] <kingspider> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[03:52] <rib_> anyone hear this model ?
[03:52] <bmwracer0> kingspider: not at the moment, what progress have you made
[03:53] <kingspider> bmwracer0: I've only looked at the forums so far lol . trying to think about where to start
[03:54] <kingspider> yourself ?
[03:55] <rib_> hi , where you guys come from?
[03:55] <kingspider> canada
[03:55] <rib_> that's really a distance
[03:56] <bmwracer0> compiling now
[03:56] <kingspider> source ?
[03:56] <rib_> this site is really awesome
[03:56] <kingspider> ?
[03:56] <rib_> bye you guys  ,  lunch time
[03:56] <kingspider> have a good one
[04:01] <rib_> just find out that i missed the oscar live..
[04:02] <Namidairo> you say it like it's a bad thing that you missed it
[04:23] <oploptopcop> yo
[04:27] <johnsmith2344> Hey, anyone have an idea why I keep on getting "make: *** No rule to make target `/home/john/ubuntutouch/out/target/common/obj/APPS/framework-res_intermediates/src/R.stamp', needed by `/home/john/ubuntutouch/out/target/common/obj/APPS/Polly_intermediates/src/R.stamp'.  Stop." When trying to build?
[04:46] <bmwracer0> johnsmith2344: I'm wondering the same, i have a similar issue. I think its because it's trying to build an Android framework, but I don't know where to remove that from
[04:47]  * heraclitis says hello
[04:48] <bmwracer0> hello
[04:49] <Namidairo> Porting: It helps if you've actually done any android dev
[05:10] <blah_> a
[05:11] <gennro> b
[05:16] <bmwracer0> c
[05:18] <gskellig> d
[05:20] <Namidairo> e
[05:27] <johnsmith2344> bmwracer0: sweet, weird that it's happening though
[05:27] <bmwracer0> crap, built successfully but it wont boot
[05:27] <johnsmith2344> change anything or what?
[05:28] <bmwracer0> i commented out some android stuff in the makefiles
[05:28] <bmwracer0> like related to NFC
[05:31] <johnsmith2344> Oh nice, don't think I can be btohered going through that right now
[05:34] <maddog> hey all
[05:35] <maddog> does anyone know if or when they will release ubuntu for android droid x pls?
[05:37] <gskellig> maddog, that phone is pretty old and has a locked bootloader
[05:38] <maddog> ok so better wait till may when i can get my galaxy note and work with that? thanks
[05:48] <T-Macgnolia> Hey every one can anyone tell me do you have to be using Linaro toolchain to compile
[05:50] <T-Macgnolia> I am trying to port to the Galaxy Note II
[05:52] <T-Macgnolia> This is what I get when I try to compile and I really do not know why. http://pastebin.com/xFrtt9j1
[06:07] <miro7102> Hi, I have unlocked ZTE grand X IN. Tried someone install ubuntu touch to this type?
[06:07] <nilsB> Good Morning.
[06:08] <nilsB> Ah, the channel name has been changed. Must have been happened last weekend.
[06:13] <nilsB> miro7102: do you know this list on the wiki? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices#Work_in_progress
[06:20] <pinPoint> is the developer version of nexus going to get updated over time?
[06:20] <Namidairo> shanananana
[06:20] <Namidairo> shananana in the morrrnniiiiiing
[06:21] <pinPoint> yay nay?
[06:23] <Namidairo> nyay
[06:23] <Namidairo> or is it ynay?
 Yes, but phablet flasher tools for ubuntu 12.10 breaking install,how not supported device. ( Atom x86 architecture, 1G RAM, 4G NAND). Recovery from zip crashed too. Any ideas?
[06:27] <johnsmith2344> T-Macgnolia: you're not the only one with these kind of issues, same here (different device)
[06:28] <hipboi> hmm, i have built the image but it's only 61M
[06:30] <hipboi> where can i get /data/ubuntu
[06:30] <hipboi> via pbuilder-dist?
[06:33] <iDoiStuff> Hey, has there been any updates since initial release?
[06:38] <brodie_> i've installed the ubuntu phone on my nexus 4, but I can't get passed the lockscreen. i've done a hard reset, and it's still stuck there
[06:38] <iDoiStuff> did you.. swipe from the right side to the left?
[06:38] <brodie_> left, right, up, down, tapping...
[06:39] <iDoiStuff> weird.
[06:39] <brodie_> nevermind. i wasn't swiping close enough to the edge
[06:39] <iDoiStuff> haha
[06:39] <brodie_> one of those moments
[06:39] <iDoiStuff> Happens all the time!
[06:45] <raa0121_> hi
[06:45] <hipboi> hi
[06:46] <raa0121_> I want Install Ubuntu for phone in Xperia X10i
[06:48] <raa0121_> Can I use galaxy nexus's Image ?
[06:50] <hipboi> i don't think so
[06:51] <hipboi> you can use gnexus rootfs
[06:52] <nilsB> miro7102: ZTE Grand S, looks like a great device. I guess you simply cannot use any of the existing installers but have to wait for people to port Ubuntu to each device individually. A good indicator is if cyanogenmod is already running on that device
[06:56] <miro7102> Thanks, <nilsB>
[06:57] <brodie_> can i send sms using ubuntu? i'm not seeing any text app
[06:58] <brodie_> how about changing setting, such as time zone?
[06:59] <Namidairo> rtfm
[06:59] <raa0121_> hipboi : well... where can I download it ?
[06:59] <brodie_> aren't you helpfukl
[07:01] <Namidairo> inspect leaves
[07:01] <brodie_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[07:02] <Namidairo> quassel
[07:07] <dk> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes  <-- the "m" in RTFM   you should read this before asking questions about networking, timezones, etc.
[07:08] <brodie_> because release notes is great place to find how to work the device...
[07:08] <dk> it's a developer release.  that's been out for 3 days.  release notes is the perfect place.
[07:08] <dk> it's not a general purpose user manual, because there is not a released "device" yet
[07:09] <Namidairo> nowhere was this advertised for general use
[07:09] <brodie_> it's not like canonical hasn't known about this. having a regular "how to" isn't asking for a lot
[07:10] <dk> here's the link to the regular "how to":  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes
[07:10] <Namidairo> lol
[07:11] <dk> there is a great amount of info in the wikis on ubuntu.com
[07:11] <brodie_> i'm going to find a better source than you trolls
[07:11] <dk> read the source maybe?
[07:13] <dk> I don't feel that I was being a troll.  I actually offered precise and usable information.
[07:13] <dk> oh well.
[07:17] <dholbach> good morning
[07:26] <benkaiser> How long does the repo sync stage take for everyone else? how many gig does it download?
[07:27] <ZaEarl> benkaiser, a long time. I pulled down 20 gigs.
[07:27] <om26er> wtf ? that would take like a week for me
[07:27] <benkaiser> in total or just the repo sync after adding your device specific repos? I already have 20 gigs from the initial sync
[07:28] <ZaEarl> I wouldn't think there was much device-specific
[07:29] <benkaiser> ZaEarl, thanks... It is at 15% of the current one its showing but I think it should be the last one :D
[07:30] <benkaiser> how long does the rest of the process take? the compiling and whatnot?
[07:35] <Namidairo> they turned down the default job number for sync down to 1
[07:35] <Namidairo> because their git was getting zerged
[07:38] <ali1234> benkaiser: repo sync is about 16GB for "phablet-dev-bootstrap" and then for me the additional device specific was only a couple of hundred MB
[07:40] <Namidairo> E/gralloc (11210): NvGr2DClear: NvDdk2dBlit failed (err=2)
[07:40] <Namidairo> you suck at compositing 2d images, nvidia
[07:50] <ali1234> T-Macgnolia: make: *** No rule to make target  `/home/tmacgnolia/UPP/out/target/common/obj/APPS/framework-res_intermediates/src/R.stamp',  needed by  `/home/tmacgnolia/UPP/out/target/common/obj/APPS/GalaxyNote2Settings_intermediates/src/R.stamp'.   Stop.
[07:50] <ali1234> this is the most common error you can get when building phablet
[07:50] <ali1234> all you have to do is look inside your device specific repos and disable build of GalaxyNote2Settings
[07:51] <ali1234> this is probably a dalvik application. it sounds like a configuration panel or something.
[07:52] <om26er> is there a way to forcefully rotate nexus 7 screen ?
[07:53] <ali1234> not as such
[07:53] <ali1234> but you can switch to "tablet" mode by editing /usr/bin/ubuntu-session and then "sudo service ubuntu-session restart"
[07:54] <om26er> ali1234, but that will still be portrait ?
[07:54] <ali1234> no
[07:54] <ali1234> i don't think so
[07:54] <ali1234> never tried it :)
[07:55] <ali1234> if you look in that file you will see what i'm talking about
[07:55] <ali1234> that's the only difference between N7 and N10 afaik
[07:55] <v> Hello guys, can I install ubuntu on my GT7 P1000
[07:56] <v> or is it not good to go for now
[07:56] <om26er> v, no you can\t and i think the galaxy tab is not powerful enough to give you a smooth system anyways
[07:56] <benkaiser> thanks ali1234 :)
[07:57] <v> okie
[08:03] <T-Macgnolia> ali1234 thank you I had though about that but not tryied it yet because I am not sure where to disable it
[08:09] <gentime> i was wondering if any would help me figure out a problem i get once i run phablet-flash ... trying to install it on nexus 7
[08:12] <officiallysonyre> hello i have query on porting ubuntu touch
[08:13] <officiallysonyre> ??
[08:13] <dholbach> officiallysonyre, just ask - it might take some time before somebody answers, but best just ask
[08:19] <T-Macgnolia> Ahhhh I think i found where to disable it now
[08:20] <nilsB> wow. I managed to make the calculator app frome here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps/Calculator work on my N7. cool.
[08:21] <T-Macgnolia> Ok I got a new error this time
[08:26] <ali1234> T-Macgnolia: i had similar error on samsung, see https://github.com/ali1234/android_device_samsung_aries-common/commit/f10568056214d2fb0a8971bca1a41e13a3ec5b1e
[08:39] <T-Macgnolia> Ok going there now. I edited the following out of device/samsung/t0lte/t0lte.mk
[08:39] <T-Macgnolia> # Product specific Packages
[08:39] <T-Macgnolia> PRODUCT_PACKAGES += \
[08:39] <T-Macgnolia>     GalaxyNote2Settings
[08:40] <T-Macgnolia> I now have this message when I try to build
[08:40] <T-Macgnolia> make: *** No rule to make target `/home/tmacgnolia/UPP/out/target/product/t0lte/obj/SHARED_LIBRARIES/libTVOut_intermediates/export_includes', needed by `/home/tmacgnolia/UPP/out/target/product/t0lte/obj/EXECUTABLES/mediaserver_intermediates/import_includes'.  Stop.
[08:40] <T-Macgnolia> make: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
[08:41] <schasch> Hi, I want to crosscompile a sinmple helloworld.c (in C-Code) for my gnex running ubuntu, where can I gat the crosscompiler/toolchain?
[08:43] <schasch> at weekend I was not able to test "phablet-dev-bootstrap -c -v maguro ./toolchain"...alway hang up...
[08:43] <vbjhnfgjh> hey
[08:43] <T-Macgnolia> schasch you can try this but you have tpo compile it so i don't know http://www.bootc.net/archives/2012/05/26/how-to-build-a-cross-compiler-for-your-raspberry-pi/
[08:43] <T-Macgnolia> Never mind my last statement
[08:44] <vbjhnfgjh> i heard rumors say that when ubuntu is installed on nexus 4 the battery drains very fast. and once the bettery drains, the phone witches and cant open unless u remove the back cover and tae out the bettery and insert it
[08:44] <vbjhnfgjh> is it true ?
[08:46] <vbjhnfgjh> ?
[08:46] <vbjhnfgjh> ?
[08:48] <Namidairo> maldives
[09:11] <netcurli> good morning
[09:17] <Electron^-> hello guys... I would try ubuntu mobile on my galaxy nexus but I'm using Debian Sqeezy and I gat 404 error after I added the repository of phablet team
[09:17] <Electron^-> can anyone help me?
[09:18] <wastrel> don't add ubuntu repos on debian
[09:18] <wastrel> you should use a different install method, check xda
[09:21] <Electron^-> ok.. thanks
[09:21] <Electron^-> I'll search out
[09:21] <wastrel> or boot ubuntu temporarily to do the install. :]
[09:21] <wastrel> usb drive or VM
[09:36]  * smartboyhw is happy that the source code finally got synced
[09:47] <om26er> ali1234, so what should I add to /usr/bin/ubuntu-session for tablet mode ?
[09:52] <om26er> rsalveti, ^
[09:52] <om26er> on nexus 7
[09:53] <ali1234> om26er: hang on
[09:53] <om26er> ok
[09:54] <ali1234> elif [ "$device" == "grouper" ]; then
[09:54] <ali1234> find that line
[09:54] <ali1234> oh wait, it already has export FORM_FACTOR="tablet"
[09:55] <ali1234> hmm
[09:55] <Tigrouzen> else
[09:55] <Tigrouzen> tablet after else
[09:56] <ali1234> nah he has grouper
[09:56] <ali1234> = nexus 7
[09:57] <ali1234> it's already setting tablet, so i don't know how to get it to landscape mode
[09:57] <ali1234> maybe UI can't rotate at all yet
[09:57] <Tigrouzen> ah
[09:57] <ogra_> it cant yet
[09:57] <Tigrouzen> ^^
[09:57]  * ogra_ thought that was in the release notes
[09:57] <ali1234> ogra_: so it's pure fluke that N10 happens to have a landscape display? ;)
[09:58] <ogra_> right, n10 has landscape, n7 portrait
[09:58] <ali1234> ogra_: the release notes say N7 runs in portrait "by default" - implying this can be changed
[09:58] <ogra_> afaik there are issues with surfaceflinger and rotation
[10:00] <ali1234> someone should package up the intel meego-touch preview UI
[10:00] <ali1234> i bet it would be really easy
[10:00] <benkaiser> is the . build/envsetup.sh supposed to take a while?
[10:06] <per_> Hello!, anyone know if Ubuntu touch will  be available on the asus transformer series in the near furture?
[10:07] <corne> per_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[10:07] <corne> there is one for the infinity
[10:09] <per_> Thank you :). to bad they havent started on my TF300t yet :/
[10:09] <per_> patience i guess :)
[10:09] <corne> you can try it yourself
[10:14] <benkaiser> answered my own question... not long.... now the next question... how long does brunch take? aha :)
[10:15] <corne> long
[10:15] <dan1el> is ubuntu touch laggy on a galaxy nexus?
[10:24] <nilsB> is there anybody else here already installing apps on the touch devices? I would like to know how you are pushing the apps on the device.
[10:25] <benkaiser> corne: how long did it take you for example? like half an hour or like 4 hours?
[10:26] <nilsB> right now I put them manually into /usr/share and /usr/share/applications and start them manually through ssl with qmlscene
[10:26] <popey> nilsB: I've been pushing from qtcreator
[10:26] <popey> not done more than that yet
[10:26] <corne> benkaiser: 0:30-1:00 hours
[10:27] <corne> benkaiser: but depends on your pc ofcourse
[10:27] <nilsB> popey: what does qtcreator do in detail? does it push to /usr/share?
[10:27] <popey> nilsB: no, puts it in the home directory of the phablet user, runs from there
[10:28] <popey> nilsB: [10:28:44] ssh -o StrictHostKeyChecking=no -o UserKnownHostsFile=/dev/null -p2222 phablet@127.0.0.1 "bash -ic 'qmlscene /home/phablet/SimpleApp/SimpleApp.qml --desktop_file_hint=/home/phablet/SimpleApp/SimpleApp.desktop'"
[10:29] <popey> ^^ like that
[10:37] <benkaiser> corne: thanks yeh... itll take a little longer on mine, its a samsung series 9 ultrabook with 8gb ram
[10:40] <benkaiser> hey really stupid question... what is the target variable for brunch? it wasn't the codename.... :\
[10:40] <corne> benkaiser: hehe, you have more ram than me
[10:40] <corne> full_codename-userdebug
[10:41] <benkaiser> corne: so if the device is http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/N7000_Info then would the target be "n7000-userdebug"
[10:42] <schasch> hi, tried to add or edit a "*.desktop"-file to start my own prog, isn't it is supported yet to edit those? Or add some?
[10:42] <schasch> ex: "sudo nano  /usr/share/applications/twitter-webapp.desktop"
[10:42] <schasch> file is changed, but not shown on phone...
[10:42] <corne> benkaiser: full_n7000-userdebug
[10:42] <nilsB> popey: thx. how do you focus the app after starting it?
[10:43] <ogra_> schasch, see popey's last lines above
[10:43] <popey> nilsB: swipe in from the right?
[10:43] <benkaiser> corne: Thanks :)
[10:44] <popey> Hmm. I have a device that CM hasn't been ported to.. that means I'm somewhat boned for porting doesn't it? ☹
[10:44] <ogra_> heh, same here
[10:44] <ogra_> i have a tab that only has cm 9 support
[10:44] <popey> mine has none
[10:44] <ogra_> probably not hard to port it to 10, no idea
[10:45] <popey> in fact I think the manufacturer is in violation of the GPL, having not released kernel sources since I last checked :(*
[10:45] <nilsB> popey: thx. then we do it the same way. can you activate it by pressing on the running apps on the home screen?
[10:45] <ogra_> popey, well, mail them and call the GPL police if they dont obey ;)
[10:45] <popey> nilsB: dunno, i swipe up from bottom, or kill it from qtcreator
[10:45] <popey> ogra_: who do we notify these days? (I mailed them months ago)
[10:46] <ogra_> hmm, linux foundation ? not sure
[10:46] <ogra_> http://gpl-violations.org/
[10:47] <popey> ok, ta
[10:47] <corne> YOu can try to find another device configuration
[10:47] <ogra_> doesnt help if you dont even have a kernel
[10:47] <ogra_> (source)
[10:48] <corne> popey: android is not just the kernel, the kernel must be released but android itself not
[10:51] <shaneo1> there is definatly an issue with the telephony app, i reflashed my phone 2 days ago because the incoming sound was mute, flashing it fixed the issue, and today the same thing happened.  Is there a log file I can pick to see what the issue is?
[10:51] <AlanBell> daker: morning :)
[10:52] <daker> ah
[10:53] <schasch> ogra : starting an app is no problem....but adding a file to the "Home->Apps" -Screen or changing thhe existant ones...
[10:53] <ogra_> schasch, did you see the bit about the .desktop file above ?
[10:55] <schasch> ogra_ :  you want to sy "/home/phablet/SimpleApp/SimpleApp.desktop"  ?
[10:55] <schasch> s/sy/say
[10:55] <ogra_> right, with qmlscene
[10:56] <wickwire> hi, I'm also trying to "install" the apps in the phone (GNexus)
[10:56] <schasch> ogra_ : thats to start an app by ssh? isn't it?
[10:56] <netcurli> the apps on the Homescreen are hardcoded at the moment
[10:56] <schasch> like I wrote : no problem for starting by ssh...
[10:56] <ogra_> well, you can just run it at startup on the phone without ssh i guess
[10:57] <schasch> netcurli : OK, now I know...
[10:57] <ogra_> the ssh command above just execs qmlscene with the right args ... as an interim to run your app locally you can add that line to your startup
[10:59] <schasch> ogra: : thanks...you want to say :  edit "/etc/[phone|tablet]-services" ?
[11:00] <ogra_> rather something in the user session setup, but yeah, something like that
[11:02] <benkaiser> anyone know what brunch actually does? none of my cpu's are still around the usual 10-20% mark...
[11:02] <TiTaN59> Hello all
[11:02] <nilsB> yeah, clock can be started as well on my N7: http://ubuntuone.com/6aN2KydMNAtNRHxIVrpxM8
[11:04] <simon_> Hi all :)
[11:04] <TiTaN59> My wifi network not start on my Galaxy Nexus...
[11:04] <simon_> successfully install ubuntu OS on my nexus 4, it can be nice, but it still an alpha
[11:05] <simon_> @TiTan59, same, wifi don't work on nexus4, I can connect to it but no network
[11:05] <ogra_> yes, its a developer preview
[11:05] <simon_> yep, they're a lot of nice idea in it :)
[11:05] <ogra_> wifi should work on visible SSIDs at least
[11:06] <simon_> but, when I want to restore my nexus : formatting 'userdata' partition... Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[11:06] <simon_> is somebody have an idea ?
[11:07] <nilsB> netcurli: apps on the homescreen are hardcoded here, I guess: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity/phablet/view/head:/Launcher/Launcher.qml
[11:08] <nilsB> would it be possible to touch the qml file? Possible to restart after changing?
[11:15] <benkaiser> can anyone help with my brunch errors? http://pastebin.com/arK1udVi
[11:17] <ali1234> show manifest.xml
[11:18] <benkaiser> ali1234, http://pastebin.com/rew5NVJn
[11:21] <netcurli> nilsB: you would have to add your app in Applications/applications.js too
[11:21] <netcurli> I guess
[11:23] <ogra_> build/core/product_config.mk:239: *** _nic.PRODUCTS.[[device/samsung/n7000/cm.mk]]: "hardware/samsung/exynos4210.mk" does not exist.  Stop.
[11:23] <ogra_> benkaiser, ^^^
[11:24] <ogra_> seems you miss "hardware/samsung/exynos4210.mk"
[11:25] <benkaiser> ogra_, ill retry a repo sync... I am following a guide from this guy: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2160773
[11:26] <ogra_> benkaiser, https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_samsung_n7000/blob/cm-10.1/cm.dependencies
[11:26] <ogra_> seems you want a "hardware/samsung" line in your manifest
[11:27] <ogra_> (and probably just follow the wiki porting guide, it is pretty clear where to look for what)
[11:28] <nilsB> netcurli: you're right. probably it doesn't make sense to change it in the hardcoded files. we'll have to wait for some appl management.
[11:29] <ali1234> benkaiser: yep, you're missing the hardware/samsung one
[11:32] <benkaiser> ogra_, ali1234, sorry, I have added that one, should I also add the fourth one in that list for: android_packages_apps_SamsungServiceMode?
[11:32] <ali1234> no
[11:33] <benkaiser> okay sweet :)
[11:34] <benkaiser> now to repo sync again... and hope it doesn't keep "Fatal: the remote end hung up"ing me
[11:37] <nilsB> running apps cannot be stopped through HUD. Is this the apps responsibility or Ubuntu unity?
[11:39] <sILVERSNIPER> how long till ubuntu phone launches officially
[11:44] <MalMen> touch should work in devices not supported ?
[11:46] <corne> MalMen: if CM is working on a device is should work, but its not always true
[11:46] <MalMen> hmmm :)
[11:46] <ogra_> sILVERSNIPER, as announced everywheer the final release is planned for april 2014
[11:47] <ogra_> there might be earlier stuff though
[11:48] <sILVERSNIPER> k thanks, will than wait a bit till a full preview is released
[11:48] <sILVERSNIPER> before sync the code
[12:05] <Guest51290> Anyone provide help to a newbie on reverting Ubuntu touch back to android?
[12:07] <corne> Guest51290: search on the xda-developers forum (for example) for your device
[12:12] <shane01> Guest51290: check this out at the bottom of the page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[12:12] <Guest51290> I have followed that but nothing happens when i do "sudo ./flash-all.sh"?
[12:14] <tehcrs> do i need linux to install ubuntu on my galaxy?
[12:16] <ogra_> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/02/how-to-flash-ubuntu-touch-from-windows.html
[12:17] <tehcrs> why thank you
[12:23] <T-Macgnolia> Anybody know where in the source I need to look for this?
[12:23] <T-Macgnolia> make: *** No rule to make target `/home/tmacgnolia/UPP/out/target/product/t0lte/obj/SHARED_LIBRARIES/libandroid_runtime_intermediates/export_includes', needed by `/home/tmacgnolia/UPP/out/target/product/t0lte/obj/STATIC_LIBRARIES/libsecosal_intermediates/import_includes'.  Stop.
[12:24] <T-Macgnolia> I need to disable this
[12:31] <TToivanen> Anybody else here get no display after entering ubuntu-session?
[12:31] <ogra_> T-Macgnolia, you didnt add any "packages/apps" line to your manifest, did you ?
[12:34] <T-Macgnolia> No no packages at all
[12:36] <Scognito> Hi
[12:37] <TToivanen> Hi
[12:37] <corne> Hi
[12:37] <MalMen> Hi
[12:38] <benkaiser> Hi
[12:38] <Tassadar> Hi
[12:39] <Scognito> just curious: I'm trying to build Touch for SGS2 since I didn't find any ready image...but I'm having trouble with dependencies.cm
[12:39] <Scognito> this is the the file I'm trying to add to manifest.xml: https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_samsung_i9100/blob/cm-10.1/cm.dependencies
[12:40] <ogra_> Scognito, you dont want the line from the /apps space
[12:40] <Scognito> but when i type repo sync, i get "android_hardware_samsung" cannot be found
[12:40] <Scognito> ogra_: I don't understand
[12:41] <ogra_> packages/apps/SamsungServiceMode ... dont add that to your manifest
[12:42] <ogra_> (it uses java stuff we dont have in the CM tree)
[12:42] <TToivanen> Scognito Did you add remote="github"
[12:42] <giveen> anyone know why its not compiling my sub directories underneth my device tree?
[12:42] <ogra_> yes, make the lines look like in the portin wikipage
[12:42] <Scognito> TToivanen: yes i did
[12:43] <mainerror> o/
[12:43] <TToivanen> giveen have you added them to main.mk?
[12:43] <Scognito> i'm at work and don't have the line I've added in manifest sorry, ogra_ ok for the app, but the problem is for the third one: android_hardware_samsung (hardware/samsung)
[12:43] <Tigrouzen> On Wave=i9000 Samsung service mode work ;)
[12:43] <giveen> I just did, I wanted to make sure there wasn't something else I needed to.
[12:44] <ogra_> right, i guess if you could pastebin your manifest and show us the url to it that would help
[12:44] <giveen> I just added device/device_maker to the main.mk
[12:44] <benkaiser> Can anyone help with jave problems? I remove java 7 and installed java 6 and when I open a terminal and do a java -version it prints that it is 1.6, however when I run brunch it fails saying it is 1.7 and then when I run java -version again it has changed to 1.7! how can I fix this?
[12:44] <TToivanen> giveen That should do the trick
[12:45] <Scognito> ogra_: I've added this line <project path="hardware/samsung" name="Cyanogen``Mod/android_hardware_samsung" remote="github" revision="refs/heads/cm-10.1" />
[12:45] <Scognito> it seems ok to me
[12:45] <giveen> Alright, thank you TToivanen, running a compile right now. What is the typical output size? It seems the compiles are extremely quick. Android takes 20-25 minutes, this takes 5.
[12:45] <ogra_> Scognito, might be that the ' ' should just be removed
[12:46] <mainerror> Yea, that doesn't look like valid XML to me.
[12:46] <ogra_> Scognito, Cyanogen``Mod vs CyanogenMod
[12:46] <TToivanen> giveen I get about 70mb
[12:46] <benkaiser> anyone? ^^^
[12:46] <giveen> Yeah, mine was about that as well. It just seem rather small
[12:46] <Scognito> ogra_: thanks I'll do when back from work (in 5 hours :P) oh yes sorry I've mispelled it, just typed right now
[12:47] <Scognito> the problem is the path not found, but I'm sorry I can't be precise as I have all the stuff at home
[12:47] <TToivanen> giveen That is only the device specific base. The generic image you flash afterwards is 400mb
[12:48] <ogra_> Scognito, "Cyanogen``Mod/android_hardware_samsung" tels the code to look for "Cyanogen Mod/android_hardware_samsung", i thiknk all the other entries are not using that space
[12:48] <giveen> Generic image? I'm a bit confused as the port instructions don't explane that
[12:49] <ogra_> giveen, eth image is two parts, one is the android hardware layer and the other is a plain ubuntu filesystem that sits on top
[12:49] <TToivanen> giveen Yes you flash a generic quantal image after you've flashed the device specific part. Don't have a link right now...
[12:49] <ogra_> giveen, for porting you only need to adapt the adnroid bits ... the "on top" ubuntu filesystem is device agnostic
[12:49] <ogra_> (or "generic")
[12:49] <TToivanen> benkaiser Have you switched to the new java?
[12:50] <benkaiser> I already had java7 on my system?
[12:50] <benkaiser> TToivanen, it may have been installed at some point but I cannot remember
[12:51]  * ogra_ wonders how thats related to ubuntu touch
[12:51] <giveen> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/quantal/mwc-demo/quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip
[12:51] <giveen> This?
[12:51] <TToivanen> I mean the "new" java 6. You need to switch to it in order to use it.
[12:51] <ogra_> thats the ubuntu rootfs
[12:51] <benkaiser> TToivanen, and how would I go about doing that? :S
[12:52] <TToivanen> benkaiser wait a min I'll link you up
[12:58] <krabador> i home to be hear by some canonical guy : please fix source server problems!!!!
[12:58] <krabador> *hope
[12:59] <ogra_> krabador, well, ask peopkle to not open 10000s of connections to the server at the same time :P
[13:00] <ogra_> its a huge repo and its a huge amount of pepole syncing it
[13:00] <TToivanen> giveen yes
[13:01] <giveen> Yeah, it took me an entire day, with about 30-40 syncs to get it
[13:04] <krabador> ogra_, true but cana
[13:04] <krabador> but canonical ca
[13:05] <krabador> but canonical must tell in the website , that toyuch, will not wolks on fryers :)
[13:05] <ogra_> ?
[13:06] <ogra_> fryers ?
[13:06] <benkaiser> TToivanen, don't worry I got it :D Followed this http://askubuntu.com/a/185250/103676
[13:06] <krabador> ogra
[13:07] <krabador> ogra_,  http://www.clicktech.it:8080/products/2264336.jpg
[13:07] <ogra_> ah
[13:07] <TToivanen> benkaiser good :)
[13:07] <ogra_> krabador, well, if the fryer ran android before it will ;)
[13:07] <krabador> many people are synching source, hoping in some miracle
[13:07] <krabador> hahhahhaha
[13:07] <krabador> :)
[13:08] <giveen> It was a mircle to get it, lol
[13:08] <benkaiser> now I have a build error... can anyone help? http://pastebin.com/TwfhZYHS
[13:08] <giveen> It was a pain the rear as well
[13:09] <giveen> look in your vendor blobs make file
[13:09] <giveen> make sure that is listed there
[13:14] <benkaiser> giveen: I think I got it, when I run the ./extract-files.sh It can't pull /sbin/cbd from my device, it says it doesn't exist... why would it be missing?
[13:16] <benkaiser> giveen, could it be because my nightly is 20 days old on my device?
[13:18] <sergiusens> benkaiser: nice, you are working on the n7000 too
[13:18] <benkaiser> sergiusens, trying too :P
[13:18] <benkaiser> sergiusens, where are you at?
[13:20] <sergiusens> benkaiser: I'm actually fighting timeouts on repo sync... I could take a shortcut though since I do have some prev repos, but would be hard to share later
[13:21] <giveen> It takes a long time guys, keep trying, I spent all day yesterday pulling the source.
[13:22] <benkaiser> sergiusens, yeh I only just finished yesterday after 2 days of trying...
[13:24] <ogra_> sergiusens, i wonder if we could convince IS to set up a few mirror servers just for pulling
[13:24] <ogra_> (as an interim until the load drops a bit again)
[13:29] <sergiusens> ogra_: yeah... we really need to
[13:41] <ali1234> i have a mirror :)
[13:45] <hipboi> i want to know when the chroot happens
[13:46] <giveen> stupid flash won't happen says its missing no system/bin/backuptool.sh in package
[13:49] <rsalveti> morning
[13:49] <giveen> hm, possible missing cm prebuilts?
[13:50] <rsalveti> ali1234: for now we're using the default screen orientation from the device
[13:51] <rsalveti> that's why n7 is portrait and n10 landscape
[13:51] <rsalveti> we'll be supporting screen rotation soon
[13:51] <ali1234> rsalveti: what's the difference between "phone" and "tablet" then?
[13:52] <rsalveti> ali1234: not so sure, could be related with the greater used and sidestage
[13:52] <rsalveti> currently you should use tablet if your screen supports landscape
[13:52] <ali1234> N7 is set to tablet
[13:52] <ali1234> maybe it hides dialer too
[13:53] <rsalveti> yeah, need to dig the code
[14:02] <giveen> Hm, looks like Ubuntu forgets to add 'system/bin/backuptool.functions' and 'system/bin/backuptool.sh'
[14:12] <giveen> Hm, booted but black screen
[14:19] <ali1234> i checked bandwidth limit on my server, apparently we have 10TB/month
[14:19] <ali1234> so PM me if you need a mirror
[14:32] <benkaiser> can anyone help me with the errors I am getting building for the N7000? http://pastebin.com/AVsya844
[14:33] <Uto> Hi there
[14:34] <corne> hi
[14:34] <ali1234> benkaiser: i know that error
[14:35] <benkaiser> ali1234, what is it? how can I fix it?
[14:35] <T-Macgnolia> Does anybody out there that is working on samsung device with exynos have this file or can linkme to a repository with. hardware/samsung/exynose/multimedia/openmax/include/osal.
[14:35] <Uto> I need some help please.
[14:35] <Uto> I've downloaded jdk6 and istall it
[14:35] <ali1234> benkaiser: grep for libandroid_runtime
[14:35] <Uto> but when i want to compile it say jdk6 isn't installed....
[14:36] <ali1234> !java > uto
[14:36] <benkaiser> ali1234, in where?
[14:36] <ali1234> Uto: you need to set the alternatives
[14:36] <ali1234> see pm
[14:36] <benkaiser> ali1234, or what command?
[14:36] <ali1234> benkaiser: it depends on your specific device
[14:36] <ali1234> https://github.com/ali1234/android_hardware_samsung/commit/15c2cae0c1947113fb661772d4a2e4c860611daa
[14:36] <ali1234> benkaiser: ^ that is where i found it but it might be in differentplace for you
[14:37] <benkaiser> ali1234, give me a sec... and thankyou :)
[14:38] <ali1234> Uto: you need to "sudo update-alternatives --config java" and "sudo update-alternatives --config javac"
[14:39] <Uto> I did it alredy
[14:39] <ali1234> then it should work
[14:40] <benkaiser> ali1234, how do I do a search through all files for that phrase?
[14:40] <ali1234> benkaiser: grep -R libandroid_runtime *
[14:40] <ali1234> in top of repo
[14:40] <benkaiser> Uto: I had the same problem... you need to completely remove java7 (or atleast that fixed it for me)
[14:44] <benkaiser> Uto: I followed this but didn't wipe my /usr/lib/jvm directory (to keep java 6) http://askubuntu.com/a/185250/103676
[14:44] <Uto> i've deleted java7 folder with nautilus...
[14:45] <Uto> but didn't work i'll see your tuto
[14:45] <Uto> thx
[14:48] <benkaiser> ali1234, no love... I removed it from the same file as you but it didn't work...
[14:48] <dank101> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38457103#post38457103
[14:48] <ubuntubhoy> http://www.iloveubuntu.net/mwc-2013-ubuntu-phone-os-becomes-first-smartphone-os-integrated-orange-and-deutsche-telekom-gsma
[14:48] <benkaiser> ali1234, I have found it in some core files thought I shouldn't mess with them build/target/product/base.mk
[14:48] <ali1234> yeah you shouldn't
[14:58] <benkaiser> ali1234, looks like someone else already found the steps so I am just gonna follow that and see if it will build :D
[14:58] <benkaiser> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38456213&postcount=32
[14:58] <Uto> same thing again...
[14:59]  * ogra_ really doesnt get what java has to do with tablet stuff, cant you take general support to #ubuntu ?
[15:01] <benkaiser> orga_, when running brunch, it exits if your java version isn't 6 and tells you to get it... So you  then need to remove java 7 and get java 6
[15:01] <ali1234> ogra_: phablet refuses to build unless java6 is your default java
[15:02] <ogra_> err, what ?
[15:02] <ogra_> rsalveti, ^^^^ ????
[15:02] <ali1234> ogra_: yes, really
[15:02] <dank101> i know
[15:02] <rsalveti> yeah, part of the android build system
[15:02] <Uto> benkaiser now i have only java 6 and this is the only one alternative
[15:02] <dank101> i've been compiling ROMs for a little while
[15:02] <ogra_> there is nothing using java in any of the bits you need, unless you start building actual android apps which we dont want
[15:02] <rsalveti> it uses java to sign the final zip file
[15:02] <Uto> and it don't work
[15:02] <ali1234> Uto: you need java *and* javac
[15:02] <ali1234> they are spearate
[15:02] <ogra_> rsalveti, oh, really ? i thought we ripped that out
[15:03] <rsalveti> openjdk works already
[15:03] <ali1234> jvm and jdk
[15:03] <rsalveti> just need to use update-alternatives to point out to java 6 instead of 7
[15:03] <Uto> uto@uto-SG33:~/ubuntu$ sudo update-alternatives --config java There is only one alternative in link group java (providing /usr/bin/java): /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-oracle/bin/java Rien à configurer. uto@uto-SG33:~/ubuntu$ sudo update-alternatives --config javac There is only one alternative in link group javac (providing /usr/bin/javac): /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-oracle/bin/javac Rien à configurer.
[15:03] <rsalveti> ogra_: not completely, as the sign code can be useful
[15:03] <ali1234> rsalveti: yes, and javac as well :)
[15:03] <rsalveti> ali1234: yeah
[15:03] <ali1234> Uto: i used openjdk, not oracle
[15:04] <ogra_> rsalveti, but we definitely work in an ubuntu default setupp so nobody needs to rip open security holes by installing subn java crap, right ?
[15:04] <ogra_> *sun
[15:04] <ali1234> ogra_: i think openjdk 7 is default now, right?
[15:04] <rsalveti> nops, openjdk works fine
[15:04] <ogra_> yes shoudl be
[15:05] <ogra_> (though indeed depends on the ubuntu release you use for development)
[15:05] <ali1234> well, 7 won't work. you need 6, or it complains
[15:05] <ali1234> it might work, but build refuses to use it
[15:06] <ogra_> well, that needs fixing on the buidl side
[15:06] <ogra_> we are aparently on 7 for all supported releases for building
[15:11] <Uto> ali1234 try with openjdk but same thing..
[15:14] <dank101> OpenJDK works as JRE6
[15:14] <dank101> and JDK6 with JDK7 libraries
[15:16] <Tigrouzen> apt-get --purge openjdk*
[15:16] <Tigrouzen> download jdk6 sun
[15:16] <Tigrouzen> sh jdk*
[15:16] <benkaiser> hey so if I push the built files to the phone, was there another zip I needed to flash? some generic one?
[15:16] <Tigrouzen> add on .bashrc
[15:16] <ogra_> well, the point is that it was tested agains openjdk7 here, if that doesnt work we dont want to forcre people into using something with huge security flaws but want to fix it
[15:17] <Tigrouzen> ANDROID_JAVA_HOME=~/jdk1.6.0_41/
[15:17] <Tigrouzen> export ANDROID_JAVA_HOME
[15:17] <Tigrouzen> export PATH=${PATH}:~/jdk1.6.0_41/bin/
[15:17] <Tigrouzen> of course move jdk folder on your user folder
[15:19] <benkaiser> anyone? is there a generic zip I have to flash too? or just the two exported zips?
[15:24] <benkaiser> is there a generic zip I have to flash too? or just the two exported zips from brunch?
[15:24] <dmj_nova> mhall119: Interesting discussion on the phone mailing list
[15:25] <dmj_nova> regarding file systems
[15:25] <ultrabenosaurus> the porting guide says this is based on CyanogenMod 10.1 - is there no ZIP I could flash from ClockworkMod Recovery like I already do for CyanogenMod?
[15:26] <mhall119> filesystems?
[15:26] <ogra_> file management
[15:26] <ogra_> not filessystems
[15:26] <dmj_nova> ogra_: correct
[15:26] <dmj_nova> I was speaking imprecisely
[15:26] <ogra_> mhall119, tags vs folders
[15:26] <shane01> telephony sound only lasted for 3 hours now before crashing, definate bug in there
[15:27] <ogra_> shane01, yeah, its a developer preview, its full of bugs :)
[15:27] <dmj_nova> If done correctly, it could have huge implications for collaboration between devices
[15:27] <mhall119> ogra_: oh, ok, so not like fsfs vs. ext
[15:27] <ogra_> hehe, no
[15:27] <ogra_> luckily :)
[15:27] <dmj_nova> The original poster's implementation thoughts are awful, but the idea is solid
[15:27] <mhall119> :)
[15:28] <shane01> i know that ogra, im just saying :-P, if i report bugs they get deleted.
[15:28] <ogra_> as soon as all bits are in the archive you will be able to file bugs against their packages
[15:28] <dmj_nova> Applications shouldn't have problems when someone goes and refactors their description and organization of files
[15:29] <shane01> Oh ok thanks, I was wondering why that was the issue
[15:30] <ogra_> shane01, there is some discussion going on fi we want to kind of "park" current bugs in a dummy project, but then someone from the community would need to step up to do the triaging and all the paperwork, since all devs are to busy just trying to finish the stuff currently
[15:31] <shane01> thats cool i will be be patient for now
[15:31] <ogra_> k
[15:31]  * ogra_ was hoping he found a volunteer to spend his day triaging bugs :)
[15:32] <shane01> haha yeah right, im too busy in my full time job to be doing that lol
[15:33] <kylepotts> Hello, Does the Ubunt touch have a way to install regualr package? Through apt etc
[15:33] <Tigrouzen> kylepotts, yes but corrupt some
[15:34] <kylepotts> Tigrouzen: what do you mean?
[15:34] <Tigrouzen> kylepotts, some package corrupt boot then he dont boot again on gui
[15:34] <steve___> Is there a way to avoid reinstalling Android on a device if you follow a wrong set of instructions?
[15:34] <Tigrouzen> kylepotts, also you can try X and gnome shell not sure work but it can be installable
[15:35] <kylepotts> steve___: check the instruction at the bottom of the page
[15:35] <steve___> I installed ubuntu to the device but it was the desktop version not the Tablet GUI
[15:35] <kylepotts> Tigrouzen: ah ok. So there is no real way tro install any type of package like everpad?
[15:35] <dmj_nova1> ogra_: mhall119: I think this could be a pretty huge advantage both for average users and especially for productivity uses.
[15:35] <steve___> I tried to reinstall the Android but it failed to boot
[15:36] <kylepotts> steve___: what device?
[15:36] <steve___> nexus 7
[15:36] <kylepotts> steve___: This at the bottom, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Installation
[15:36] <mhall119> dmj_nova1: and how would that work on the desktop?
[15:37] <Tigrouzen> kylepotts, its prototype OS
[15:37] <ogra_> kylepotts, you can install everything you like from the ubuntu archive via apt, nearly all packages available for x86 are also there for armhf
[15:37] <dmj_nova1> mhall119: None of this has to replace traditional file system access
[15:37] <ogra_> kylepotts, but note that there is no X11 on ubuntu touch, so you wont have any way of using these apps
[15:37] <steve___> If my nexus came with a stylus this version would do nicely, but its running 13.04 using a podgey finger and onscreen keyboard
[15:37] <ogra_> kylepotts, unless you write a QMl frontend
[15:37] <Tigrouzen> you can add "proposed security" and ppa too
[15:38] <kylepotts> ogra_: Ah I see. So it used QML and not X11.
[15:38] <dmj_nova1> however, a library that automates file management, and keeps track of files would make it simpler for projects to not break when files get moved
[15:38] <ogra_> kylepotts, right
[15:39] <ogra_> kylepotts, the touch UI can only handle HTML5 and QML ...
 I will give it another go and let you know
[15:39] <kylepotts> ogra_: well, I was going to try and port a python app that I made, but now I guess I gotta read up on QML  haha
[15:40] <ogra_> heh, good luck :)
[15:40] <dmj_nova1> mhall119: so applications can either always directly tap into the filesystem stucture itself, or let a service keep track of where a particularly identified file is.
[15:41] <ogra_> dmj_nova1, well, the dash kind of offers exactly that
[15:41] <ogra_> on the desktop through zeitgeist ...
[15:42] <ogra_> not sure what the plan for tablets/phones is for the backend, but there will be something similar
[15:42] <ogra_> *theoretically* that should make any way of file management obsolete if it works right ...
[15:43] <dmj_nova1> ogra_: Hmm...not entirely sure on that front
[15:44] <kylepotts> well, there is an evernote icon on the picture, but I am going to assume it isnt on the device
[15:44] <steve___> It is now coming up with the message booting failed??
[15:44] <dmj_nova1> I don't think the dash or zeigeist necessarily have the right information
[15:44] <ogra_> kylepotts, rgars just a png :)
[15:44] <ogra_> *thats
[15:45] <kylepotts> ogra_: a tad misleading if you ask me haha
[15:45] <dmj_nova1> kylepotts: It's not meant as an end user device...it's a demonstration of what it will be like/a developer preview
[15:45] <ogra_> kylepotts, its a developer preview that is supposed to show the future capabilitoes and give devs some kind of early framework to write their apps
[15:46] <steve___> kylepotts, I followed the instructions but it wont boot to android? am I missing something?
[15:46] <ogra_> steve___, what do you see on screen now ?
[15:46] <kylepotts> steve___: which image did you download?
[15:47] <steve___> I just noticed that when I ran the ./flash-all.sh at the bootom it says device product is 'tilapia' Update requires 'grouper'
[15:47] <steve___> checking product failed?
[15:48] <ogra_> hmm,. looks like tou have the wrong image then
[15:48] <steve___> what is the difference between the wifi and the GSM/HSPA+
[15:49] <steve___> My Nexus 7 can take a sim card if that helps?
[15:49] <ogra_> well, afaik all nexus7's are grouper
[15:49] <kylepotts> steve___: the GSM version is the one with the sim card
[15:50] <steve___> thanks! this could be the problem!
[15:50] <kylepotts> steve___: yeah you should get the nakasig img
[15:51] <steve___> How technical does it get when it comes to porting to other devices??
[15:51] <steve___> thanks kylepotts
[15:51] <toXel> ogra_: nope the 3g n7 is tilapia
[15:51] <ultrabenosaurus> the porting guide says this is based on CyanogenMod 10.1 - is there no ZIP I could flash from ClockworkMod Recovery like I already do for CyanogenMod?
[15:53] <crypticmofo> ok
[15:55] <crypticmofo> hi all don't know if this is a dumb question .. if my ubuntu-touch was ported to my device and its still in the WIP stage .. when do we know if its out of that stage or will there be an update on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[15:55] <ftpd> Hi. Is there support for mobile data yet?
[15:55] <UbuPhillup> ftpd :no
[15:56] <ftpd> Kk, so useless for me at this stage.
[15:58] <moquette> hi all, is there any development relative channel ?
[15:58] <purvesh> anyone working on Samsung Galaxy R i9103 ? it is similar to SGS II
[15:58] <ogra_> moquette, more than this one ?
[15:59] <dmj_nova1> moquette: This channel has just recently been overun with porting and install questions
[16:00] <dmj_nova1> otherwise I think this channel was definitely dev and design centric
[16:00] <ogra_> well, its currently the right channel for all such questions ... if its about app development, you can try #ubuntu-app-deve
[16:00] <ogra_> l
[16:00] <ultrabenosaurus> the porting guide says this is based on CyanogenMod 10.1 - is there no ZIP I could flash from ClockworkMod Recovery like I already do for CyanogenMod?
[16:01] <moquette> thanks dmj_nova1 !
[16:07] <steve___> kylepotts - this time it is going alot further! Thank you very much for your help with this
[16:10] <steve___> That time did the trick! now to follow the instructions very carefully this time!
[16:10] <ogra_> steve___, that was with the grouper image ?
[16:11] <steve___> yes the grouper image flashed back much better thank you! now just to set it to USB debug and flash again!
[16:11] <ogra_> good, to know ...
[16:12] <steve___> I should have noticed it failed at the device part of the script really
[16:13] <DiV> hey - has anyone installed ubuntu touch on their nexus 7? im currently installing now, but it's been sitting on "quantal-preinstalled-boot-armel+grouper.img: OK Pushing /home/jordan/Downloads/phablet-flash/95/quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip to /sdcard/autodeploy.zip" for a while
[16:13] <ogra_> well, give it time, USB isnt the fastest transfer media
[16:13] <steve___> DiV this takes awhile! it will get there
[16:14] <ogra_> and yes (to your question) many people have
[16:14] <DiV> ok
[16:14] <DiV> i assumed many people have - i just wanted to check with someone who had
[16:14] <DiV> :P
[16:14] <DiV> thanks guys, i knew usb wouldnt be super fast, just thought it might have been stuck
[16:17] <Tigrouzen> deb http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/ quantal-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[16:17] <Tigrouzen> deb http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/ quantal-proposed main restricted universe multiverse
[16:17] <Tigrouzen> deb http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/ quantal-security main restricted universe multiverse
[16:17] <Tigrouzen> deb http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/ quantal-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[16:18] <ogra_> i doubt anyone has tested adding these
[16:18] <ogra_> so be careful, they might break the world ;)
[16:18] <Tigrouzen> ^^
[16:20] <steve___> ogra, i just ran phablet-flash -b and it said device unsupported???
[16:20] <ogra_> did you use sudo ?
[16:20] <steve___> yes same problem
[16:20] <ogra_> hmm
[16:21] <steve___> it is detecting my device as tilapia
[16:22] <steve___> which it shouldnt be :/
[16:22] <Tigrouzen> mean id name not same
[16:22] <steve___> what do I do about it?
[16:23] <toXel> steve___: i've made it with phablet-flash -b -d 'grouper' on my tilapia
[16:23] <steve___> toXel thanks! it didnt abort this time it is doing something
[16:24] <steve___> glad someone knows what they are doing :D
[16:24] <ogra_> it should be largely the same anyway
[16:24] <Tigrouzen> ok
[16:24] <steve___> it should be, but I dont know. google messed things up when they buggered with a perfectly good kernel
[16:24] <ogra_> i know there are no issues using the nexus7 desktop image on these devices ... and the desktop one uses the plain grouper kernel
[16:24] <Tigrouzen> phablet-flash first looking on rom name
[16:25] <steve___> I had the desktop image on there fine, but with podgey fingers an on screen keyboard isnt ideal!
[16:25] <ogra_> yeah
[16:26]  * ogra_ knows what you mean ... 
[16:26] <steve___> Now i just have to wait for nexus S to be supported then I have 2 devices to use!
[16:26] <Guest36075> Why do mobile versions of facebook and gmail think I'm using iOS and want to send me to the Apple app store to download the mobile app?
[16:26] <ogra_> i thihnk someone works on an S port
[16:26] <steve___> this is an amazing thing for FOSS
[16:26] <steve___> they are but im impatient :D i would offer to help but not sure how to???
[16:26] <ogra_> Guest36075, i think the browser currently identifies as iphone :)
[16:27] <Tigrouzen>   # Check CyanogenMod property
[16:27] <Tigrouzen>     if not device:
[16:27] <Tigrouzen>         device = adb.getprop('ro.cm.device').strip()
[16:27] <Tigrouzen>     # Check Android property
[16:27] <Tigrouzen>     if not device:
[16:27] <Tigrouzen>         device = adb.getprop('ro.product.device').strip()
[16:27] <ogra_> steve___, contact the person working on it and offer testing ;)
[16:27] <Tigrouzen>     log.info('Device detected as %s' % device)
[16:27] <Tigrouzen>     # property may not exist or we may not map it yet
[16:27] <Guest36075> orga, that is my feeling too and I'm really wondering why
[16:27] <Tigrouzen>     if device not in settings.supported_devices:
[16:27] <Tigrouzen>         log.error('Unsupported device, autodetect fails device')
[16:27] <Tigrouzen>         exit(1)
[16:27] <Tigrouzen>     return device
[16:27] <ogra_> Tigrouzen, use a pastebin please
[16:27] <Tigrouzen> sorry
[16:28] <ogra_> Guest36075, because its a very very young browser written from scratch .... just expect it to have bugs
[16:29] <Guest36075> orga ok, I was thinking there must be a reason for that other then a bug, but if it is a bug...
[16:30] <Ursinha> Tigrouzen, when I was trying to flash cm10-1 on my tablet, that error was happening (wrong device) because I had the wrong recovery flashed, once I flashed the recovery recommended for my device on its cm wiki page, it started recognizing the device correctly
[16:30] <ogra_> its a developer preview, its full of them
[16:30] <ogra_> Ursinha, well, we dont check for tilapia at all, that needs to be added to the grouper codepath
[16:30] <Tigrouzen> Ursinha, yes because phablet look at bulid.prop
[16:31] <Ursinha> so, another problem :)
[16:31] <ogra_> settings.supported_devices: need it added i guess
[16:31] <ogra_> (and return "grouper" for it in the end)
[16:33] <DragunKorr> anybody had any luck with msm8660 device yet?
[16:33] <tux_> i'm tempted to try this on a HTC Desire..
[16:33] <DragunKorr> dedire or dhd?
[16:33] <crypticmofo> tux_, the phone rocks i have the desire hd
[16:33] <DragunKorr> me too
[16:33] <crypticmofo> with a broken glass and buttons
[16:33] <crypticmofo> lol
[16:34] <Tigrouzen> steve___, past your default.prop on recovery mode
[16:34] <DragunKorr> ahh who cares long as it turns on
[16:34] <crypticmofo> true
[16:34] <DragunKorr> im pyramid mainly
[16:34] <DragunKorr> 9 error free builds no booty
[16:34] <crypticmofo> hi all don't know if this is a dumb question .. if my ubuntu-touch was ported to my device and its still in the WIP stage .. when do we know if its out of that stage or will there be an update on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[16:35] <tux_> when's Key Lime out?
[16:35] <ogra_> the final release date for all of that stuff is april 2014
[16:35] <tux_> i.e. android 5.0
[16:35] <ogra_> you might see stuff released before (i.e. this october)
[16:35] <steve___> I will do, i am looking forward to it all being in a working order! I have gone slightly ubuntu mad the last few weeks
[16:36] <ogra_> but 14.04 is the actual estimated timeframe for a final ubuntu touch product with all the bells and whistles you saw in the video
[16:36] <DragunKorr> mad mine wont boot
[16:36] <DragunKorr> lol
[16:36] <ogra_> (converged devices with desktop when you dock it etc etc)
[16:37] <steve___> I have 7 mins left of saving the .zip to the device. This is going to do wanders for ubuntu
[16:37] <steve___> I work with linux servers everyday and everyone is excited about this
[16:39] <DragunKorr> 1900 views on my thread no rom lol
[16:40] <steve___> DragonKorr, what is it you are trying to  do?
[16:40] <DragunKorr> get preview to boot
[16:40] <steve___> which device??
[16:40] <DragunKorr> sensation
[16:40] <steve___> and the install went smoothly with no error messages?
[16:40] <DragunKorr> insatall?
[16:41] <DragunKorr> compile you mean?
[16:41] <steve___> ah you compiled! sorry i misunderstood!
[16:41] <steve___> well your a brave man!
[16:41] <steve___> thats above my capabilities
[16:42] <baruch6132> So based on just looking at the install page, you need ubuntu desktop to install on a tablet?
[16:43] <steve___> ubuntu desktop or a VM
[16:43] <DragunKorr> dont matter
[16:44] <DragunKorr> long as its linux
[16:44] <baruch6132> That's fantastic
[16:44] <DragunKorr> mint
[16:44] <DragunKorr> fedora
[16:44] <steve___> I wander how long it will be until be see distros like mint porting their own image?
[16:45] <DragunKorr> why same stuff
[16:45] <DragunKorr> different color
[16:45] <steve___> well I am just wandering how long it will be for someone to attempt to create a BackTrack image as this is steadily getting more and more popular
[16:45] <steve___> this is true, but people do like choice after all
[16:45] <baruch6132> There's no way to xiii it straight on the device? Is there a reason for that?
[16:46] <DragunKorr> xiii?
[16:46] <baruch6132> Stupid swype
[16:46] <waa> How can I help enable GPS support?
[16:46] <baruch6132> Install*
[16:47] <DragunKorr> vast question be more specific
[16:47] <toXel> baruch6132: use swiftkey flow ;P
[16:47] <DragunKorr> lol
[16:49] <crypticmofo> is that a dumb question i asked ?
[16:49] <steve___> Does it take long to push the autodeploy.zip ?? or is my machine just abit crap?
[16:49] <sergiusens> steve___: takes a bit
[16:50] <DragunKorr> all zips take long adb
[16:50] <steve___> thanks mate!
[16:50] <baruch613> What does it do different when it comes to installing than an android rom? Wipe bootloader?
[16:50] <steve___> if I put the sim card in the device, can i then use it as a very large phone??
[16:50] <sergiusens> steve___: gsm?
[16:51] <steve___> baruch613, android uses a modified kernel as it has no x-org support
[16:51] <steve___> yea it is
[16:51] <sergiusens> steve___: could work as well as maguro... no promises
[16:52] <baruch613> Ahh. So it has to put a different kernel on it ? I can do that in recovery. Why i need a computer to do that for ubuntu touch?
[16:52] <steve___> its worth a go! i will have to test it out
[16:53] <steve___> I hope this push doesnt take longer than half an hour - i want to leave work on time :D
[16:53] <DragunKorr> 31 min
[16:53] <baruch613> Why can't i install on the tablet itself. Why need a computer?
[16:53] <baruch613> Is my main question
[16:53] <steve___> i hope thats the timing its been going for 10
[16:54] <w00tc0d3> hmm
[16:54] <steve___> baruch613, you can not do it on the device itself because you have to wipe part of the device in the first place so it wont have anything to finish the install
[16:54] <w00tc0d3> anyone succeeded in syncing sources?
[16:55] <steve___> serfiusens finished pushing!!!
[16:55] <DragunKorr> yea twice
[16:55] <baruch613> Ahh. It wipes recovery ?
[16:55] <steve___> oooohhhh did it work :D
[16:55] <ogra_> sergiusens, ^^^^
[16:56] <ogra_> steve___, thanks, you were our beta tester ... the arch will be added to the script ...
[16:56] <steve___> i can still see the android drois with his teletubby belly atm
[16:56] <steve___> hahaha im proud to be a beta tester :D
[16:56] <ogra_> oh, i thought you were done already :)
[16:56] <baruch613> Ill be installing when i Gerry home from school
[16:57] <steve___> it ran it and said finished, and once complete the device should reboot to Ubuntu
[16:57] <baruch613> Get*
[16:57] <steve___> I like how it says should ;)
[16:57] <baruch613> Lol
[16:57] <ogra_> yeah, we are careful with statements for previews :)
[16:57] <sergiusens> steve___: should means something can fail :-)
[16:57] <steve___> its like a doctor saying the medicine SHOULD work, but then again it could make you grow an extra foot ...
[16:58] <baruch613> Can't wait to install it! Been waiting since ces!
[16:58] <ogra_> who wouldnt want an extra foot !
[16:58] <sergiusens> steve___: so it rebooted and nothing?
[16:58] <steve___> well i have a moving progress bar and it just rebooted
[16:58] <steve___> into ........
[16:58] <sergiusens> steve___: it should've rebooted into fastboot and started doing stuff
[16:58] <steve___> ubuntu :D
[16:58] <steve___> beta test complete ;)
[16:58] <ogra_> sergiusens, its done :)
[16:59] <steve___> good job guys looks awesome!
[16:59] <steve___> and thanks for your help of course
[16:59] <ogra_> steve___, thanks for yours !
[16:59] <ogra_> you helped inproving ubuntu ;)
[17:00] <steve___> im always up for helping improve ubuntu!
[17:02] <steve___> if any bugs come up I shall post them, where should i post them though?
[17:03] <ogra_> we dont really have a bugtracker set up that early since bugs are expected and largely worked on anyway, but you can try to talk about them here
[17:03] <steve___> ok :) well i will test as much as possible and if any come up i shall try and find a fix
[17:17] <Ajan_> hi
[17:18] <Ajan_> i just need to know whether i can install ubuntu tablet on my samsung galaxy tab 10.1?
[17:19] <tzvi> Ajan_, officially I believe only nexus devices are supported. check xda-developers.com you might find a port there
[17:20] <echov> Dank101, are you still looking for someone to test a d2att build?
[17:20] <dank101> yes
[17:20] <dank101> echov
[17:21] <ne0en> Ajan look here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices#Work_in_progress
[17:21] <dank101> echov:http://d-h.st/DoD
[17:26] <quincyattUser> hello, I've tried to port the ubuntu touch to my device using the guide located on the wiki but seem to have issues when issuing brunch. Although my device is listed, when i run brunch it fails saying that the repo didn't have the device specs. any help would be appreciated.
[17:27] <Ajan_> thanks
[17:27] <thansen> does all the hardware on a vzw gnex work or is something missing?
[17:31] <ultrabenosaurus> is it possible to make a build that can be flashed from ClockworkMod Recovery just like with normal CyanogenMod? I read on the Porting Guide that Ubuntu Touch is based on Cyanogen 10.1 so I was wondering if it's possible
[17:33] <rsalveti> ultrabenosaurus: we flash using zip files and cwm recovery
[17:33] <rsalveti> :-)
[17:34] <ultrabenosaurus> rsalveti: thanks!
[17:34] <ultrabenosaurus> rsalveti: is there an XDA thread I can get the ZIP files from or will I need to build them myself?
[17:35] <rsalveti> ultrabenosaurus: for the devices we officially support (nexus family), you can get the files from cdimage
[17:36] <rsalveti> ultrabenosaurus: now if it'sa different device, take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[17:42] <ultrabenosaurus> rsalveti: sorry for asking silly questions, but where is 'cdimage'? I can't find a mention of it anywhere in the Touch wiki and I have a Nexus 4 so the Devices page just points me at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[17:42] <rsalveti> ultrabenosaurus: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/quantal/mwc-demo/
[17:42] <rsalveti> the script will use this url by default
[17:43] <rsalveti> you can either download the zip from this path or use the phablet-flash script
[17:47] <ultrabenosaurus> rsalveti: thank you very much! I'll be flashing that just as soon as I've done a new nandroid to roll back to :D
[17:52] <Nikez> For any HTC Desire users here; I have compiled a tutorial (and the required android-part) on how to get Ubuntu Touch to run on your HTC Desire. Read it at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2165711
[17:55] <trapntan> can anyone lend a hand on the porting guide?
[18:05] <con_> hi
[18:12] <dpm> trapntan, please ask your question and if someone can help then they can chip in :)
[18:13] <trapntan> Can't find the extract-files.sh script for toro, but I think I found the script from CM and will just create the file put it in /device/samsung/toro. Sound right?
[18:16] <TToivanen> Can someone help me with modifying GRID_UNIT_PX in /usr/bin/ubuntu-session?
[18:18] <trapntan> Well seems to have worked anyway, just woulda thought the script would have been in the repo?  thanks though
[18:18] <Scognito> I'm trying to compile for i9100 (SGS) using this line on manifest.xml: <project name="CyanogenMod/android_hardware_samsung" path="hardware/samsung" remote="github" revision="refs/heads/cm-10.1" />
[18:19] <Scognito> but what i get is "error: Cannot fetch CyanogenMod/android_hardware_samsung"
[18:20] <Scognito> any hint?
[18:22] <dpm> Scognito, try to sync again, it seems the git server is a bit overloaded atm, lots of folks trying to connect at the same time
[18:22] <Scognito> dpm: oh sorry i mispelled...seems another repo sync fixed
[18:22] <Scognito> but now I get "error: Cannot fetch CyanogenMod/android_hardware_broadcom_wlan" :)
[18:22] <Scognito> this one wasn't added by ,e though
[18:22] <dpm> yeah, I think it's the same problem
[18:23] <dpm> you might want to wait a bit and retry
[18:23] <Scognito> it's 2 days I try to sync :)
[18:23] <Scognito> anyway what about "Fetching projects:  27% (38/140)  fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly" ?
[18:23] <dpm> it's exactly the same problem unfortunately :/
[18:24] <Scognito> do I need to do a full repo sync without this kind of error before trying to compile?
[18:29] <TToivanen> How do I modify GRID_UNIT_PX?
[18:30] <dpm> jppiiroi1en, perhaps you've got the answer for this one? ^
[18:30] <ogra_> its described in the porting doc
[18:31] <ogra_> (see channel topic)
[18:32] <dpm> good catch, thanks ogra_
[18:42] <dank101> dead chan?
[18:45] <Domes> hello
[18:46] <Domes> some one her who could answer me a question pls ?
[18:47] <TToivanen> probably yes
[18:48] <Domes> k , is it possible to flash a samsung galaxy nexus with ubuntu-touch via windows ?
[18:48] <dank101> no
[18:49] <Domes> mhhh ok .. thx for helping
[18:49] <xsoh> Domes, I'm not sure this might help http://www.webupd8.org/2013/02/how-to-flash-ubuntu-touch-from-windows.html
[18:49] <TToivanen> Domes Use a virtual machine
[18:49] <Domes> ahh cool thx xsoh
[18:50] <Domes> @ttoivanen .. no i got it on my notebook ..but used it months ago and so i not so comform with it
[18:51] <xsoh> any hope for n7 3g (tilapia)....cause I think it's still not supported..
[18:53] <kieppie> great work guys!
[18:56] <ogra_> xsoh, just force it to grouper with the -d options
[18:56] <ogra_> *option
[18:57] <ogra_> xsoh, the phablet-flash script is just being fixed to use grouper on these devices as well
[18:58] <shadin> So I just finished installed Touch to my Nexus 7, and everything went absolutely perfect - but the touchscreen doesn't work.  Is there some additional driver needed?
[18:59] <ubuntubhoy> nope
[18:59] <ali1234> are you sure it doesn't work?
[18:59] <ubuntubhoy> it works out of the box on the N&
[18:59] <ubuntubhoy> n7*
[18:59] <ali1234> the interface is really unintuitive
[18:59] <ali1234> you wouldn't be the first person who thought it wasn't working when really it was
[18:59] <ubuntubhoy> it's fairly simple to be fair
[18:59] <ogra_> shadin, did you try to swipe from the left edge yet ?
[18:59] <xsoh> ogra_, it says: Not enough space in /data, found 470M <-- it's clean android rom
[19:00] <shadin> I just did, thank you.  I'm an idiot. :)
[19:00] <ogra_> xsoh, thats weird, your /data partition should be the biggest on the device
[19:00] <ali1234> shadin: it's totally not your fault. blame the designers
[19:00] <xsoh> ogra_, I'll check that...
[19:00] <ogra_> xsoh, do you use phablet-flash or did you try it manually ?
[19:01] <kieppie> guys, I'm looking at the required specs for devices supported - i.e. NExus 7 grouper. which model is that? the old/original one, or the newer one?
[19:01] <ogra_> kieppie, grouper are all without 3G
[19:02] <ogra_> but the 3G model works too, we have had a few people installing it in the channel here
[19:02] <xsoh> ogra_, well I tried to use phablet then I tried to do it manually...maybe because it uses the ubuntu kernel..
[19:02] <ogra_> xsoh, you had the desktop install on it before ?
[19:02] <xsoh> ogra_, yes
[19:02] <kieppie> ogra_ - I believe the original NExus 7 - releases last year or the year before, was WiFi only, but the latest one is comes in wifi & 3g flavours, but still carry the same name
[19:03] <ogra_> well, the kernel shouldnt cause any issues
[19:03] <ogra_> kieppie, as i said, wifi only is grouper
[19:03] <kieppie> ogra_ - I can get the old one fore relatively cheap, & want to ensure I don't end up bricking it
[19:03] <kieppie> ogra_ - original release?
[19:03] <xsoh> ogra_, no what I mean is that I have wierd case...I'm running Android in Ubuntu kernel...
[19:03] <ogra_> xsoh, it is imprtant that your recovery partition is intact nd has adb on it for the phablet script
[19:04] <ogra_> kieppie, any n7 without wifi is a grouper
[19:04] <kieppie> http://www.gsmarena.com/asus_google_nexus_7-4850.php
[19:04] <kieppie> ah
[19:04] <kieppie> thnx
[19:05] <ogra_> kieppie, errr, sorry, "with *only* wifi"
[19:06] <ultrabenosaurus> rsalveti: how long should the initial boot take after flashing?
[19:08] <ultrabenosaurus> rsalveti: I downloaded the mako ZIP from near the top of that page, flashed it and rebooted to get a constant black screen after the Google logo with the open padlock (running a Nexus 4 by the way)
[19:09] <ultrabenosaurus> rsalveti: I can hold the power button which turns it off, then holding the volume down button will go to the bootloader from which I can get to recovery and restore my backup
[19:09] <ultrabenosaurus> rsalveti: I waited 20 minutes before trying the power button
[19:11] <ogra_> ultrabenosaurus, did you use all three files ? the mako zip will only get you a kernel and minimal android env, no GUI etc
[19:12] <w00tc0d3> any ubuntu devs here?
[19:14] <ogra_> some for sure
[19:17] <ultrabenosaurus> ogra_: no, I only used the ZIP
[19:17] <ogra_> ultrabenosaurus, well, that wont get you very far
[19:17] <xsoh> ogra_, I installed normal the Android OS and now it's working..! Thank you so much
[19:17] <ultrabenosaurus> ogra_: do I even need to use the recovery ZIP? won't that overwrite ClockworkMod Recovery?
[19:18] <ogra_> xsoh, awesome !
[19:18] <ogra_> ultrabenosaurus, not sure, but you definitely need the userspace
[19:19] <ultrabenosaurus> ogra_: this is the link rsalveti gave me - http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/quantal/mwc-demo/
[19:20] <ultrabenosaurus> orga_: I was told I could download the ZIP for my phone (mako - Nexus 4) to flash via Clockworkmod Recovery
[19:20] <ultrabenosaurus> orga_: how do I flash IMG files rather than ZIP files?
[19:21] <rsalveti> ultrabenosaurus: you need 2 zips
[19:21] <rsalveti> one specific to the hardware and the other as the ubuntu image
[19:22] <rsalveti> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/quantal/mwc-demo/quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip
[19:22] <rsalveti> ultrabenosaurus: so install both with cwm, and you should have something at your next boot :-)
[19:22] <ogra_> :)
[19:22] <rsalveti> just make sure you have enough disk space available (~2gb)
[19:22] <ultrabenosaurus> rsalveti: ah, I needed the phablet ZIP as well? thanks for the help!
[19:24] <ogra_> right, thats the userspace
[19:30] <Guest16586> Anyone trying to flash ios to ubuntu touch?
[19:30] <tzvi> wha???
[19:31] <padme1> yes
[19:31] <padme1> it transformed in windows phone 7
[19:31] <padme1> but i went back to symbian
[19:31] <padme1> didn't liked the interface
[19:33] <manvindar> hey do ubuntu touch is same as they showed in CES last year
[19:33] <manvindar> ?
[19:33]  * manvindar hi
[19:33]  * manvindar is scratching is head
[19:34]  * manvindar needs someone who can tell him what he asked
[19:34] <manvindar> hey do ubuntu touch is same as they showed in CES last year?
[19:35] <ogra_> largely, yes
[19:35] <manvindar> ah
[19:36] <manvindar> so after docking we can use it like we use ubuntu normally
[19:36] <ogra_> no
[19:36] <manvindar> why
[19:36] <ogra_> once it is released you will be able to
[19:36] <ogra_> because that featire does not exist yet
[19:36] <w00tc0d3> To any Ubuntu developers; how do you reuse Android's EGL libs, and how do you use Android's surfaceflinger to display your own GUI??
[19:36] <ogra_> *fature
[19:37] <ali1234> w00tc0d3: using libhybris
[19:37] <manvindar> the final release will be only for dual core mobiles?
[19:37] <Guest16586> Anyone trying to flash ios to ubuntu touch?
[19:37] <w00tc0d3> ali1234: what does that do?
[19:37] <fmunozs> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SulHvjtLO0g
[19:37] <ali1234> w00tc0d3: allows bionic and glibc to interoperate, batically
[19:37] <fmunozs> suggestions welcome in the comments
[19:38] <manvindar> ios to ubuntu touch?? ios is closed source as far as i know
[19:38] <w00tc0d3> ali1234: I might look stupid, but what's the advantage of it?
[19:38] <ali1234> w00tc0d3: can use android hardware adaptations directly without having to rebuild them for glibc - which is impossible anyway without source
[19:39] <manvindar> dont think so
[19:39] <ali1234> w00tc0d3: basically it allows glibc distributions to use android binary only drivers compiled against bionic libc
[19:39] <w00tc0d3> ali1234: but Canonical didn't chose for it
[19:39] <ali1234> w00tc0d3: i don't understand what you just said
[19:39] <ogra_> w00tc0d3, there are no normal linux drivers for any of these devices .... the drivers that are around are android drivers
[19:39] <w00tc0d3> ali1234: ogra_: indeed. they use android's surfaceflinger
[19:39] <w00tc0d3> ali1234: ogra_: and I wonder how they attach it to Xorg
[19:40] <ali1234> w00tc0d3: qt is patched to add surfaceflinger backend
[19:40] <ogra_> w00tc0d3, so to use such hwardware you can either work with a vendor directly and get exactly one phone going ... or you can re-use android bits
[19:40] <Guest16586> i know ios is closed, i'm wondering if anyone is interested to hacking and flashing ios over to ubuntu
[19:40] <ali1234> w00tc0d3: there is no X11 involved, qt uses surfaceflinger apis directly
[19:40] <ogra_> w00tc0d3, there is no X11 involved anywhere
[19:40] <Guest16586> iphone/ipad to ubuntu
[19:40] <w00tc0d3> ali1234: *crying* so when I want to use GNOME, I basically have to rewrite Gnome?
[19:41] <Guest16586> Anyone interested in doing that?
[19:41] <mhall119> no, just make a surfaceflinger backend to Gtk
[19:41] <ogra_> w00tc0d3, what mhall119 said
[19:41] <ali1234> or make surfaceflinger backend for X11
[19:41] <mhall119> well, you'd have to do more than that if you want to get Gnome Shell running
[19:42] <mhall119> but to get Gtk apps running it should be all you need
[19:42] <w00tc0d3> ogra_: oh... and they interact using libhybris, that's why /system is mounted on /data/ubuntu/system ?
[19:42] <w00tc0d3> also for ali1234
[19:42] <ali1234> i don't know the implementation details, sorry
[19:42] <ogra_> well, ubuntu runs inside a container under a very minimal android
[19:43] <dank101> hey guys
[19:43] <Guest16586> really?
[19:43] <dank101> how do we manually install apt-get on ubuntu-touch
[19:43] <Guest16586> What a pain
[19:43] <ogra_> dank101, ?
[19:43] <ogra_> dank101, apt-get is there
[19:43] <w00tc0d3> it IS installed
[19:44] <dank101> ogra_, it glitched im reflashing
[19:44] <Guest16586> So if I flash my iphone to android then I should be able to install ubuntu over it?
[19:44] <dank101> Guest16586, yes
[19:44] <fmunozs> mhall119, hey :) I just submitted my code to a new branch as you told me, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5565683/ but I'm not sure where it's supposed to be, I can't find it on lp
[19:46] <mhall119> fmunozs: it's here: https://code.launchpad.net/~fmunozs/ubuntu-twitter-app/profileview
[19:46] <mhall119> fmunozs: now you can click the "Propose for merging" link to make a merge proposal (pull request in git speak)
[19:46] <ogra_> Guest16586, nope
[19:47] <fmunozs> mhall119, thanks again!
[19:47] <ogra_> Guest16586, you would need to add iphone suppport to the android tree we use for ubuntu, see the porting doc from the channel topic
[19:47] <mhall119> fmunozs: no problem, I'm please to see code coming in for these apps :)
[19:47] <ogra_> Guest16586, but then you could indeed run ubuntu-touch on an iphone
[19:48] <Guest16586> where can I read that?
[19:48] <Guest16586> I'm not really that familiar with irc
[19:48] <Guest16586> I used to be, but it's been a long while
[19:51] <ogra_> Guest16586, ttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
[19:51] <Guest16586> thank you
[19:52] <Guest16586> So if I understand correctly, I may be able to add ios support to the ubuntu package and... bam... I can use ubuntu-touch on an iphone?
[19:53] <ogra_> you need cyanogenmod 10.1 support for the device you want to have supported ... then put the code for it into the ubuntu tree
[19:54] <Guest16586> what is cyanogenmod 10.1?
[19:54] <ogra_> so if you can have cyanogenmod 10.1 running on your iphone, ubuntu will definitely be portable to it
[19:54] <ogra_> a free android variang, google will tell you more about it
[19:54] <ogra_> *variant
[19:54] <mhall119> fmunozs: this looks great!
[19:56] <benkaiser> Hey guys I managed to finally get ubuntu touch preview up and running on my n7000... but now the text looks all messed up (like it not rendering properly?)... any ideas?
[19:57] <ali1234> benkaiser: probably resolution issue
[19:58] <ultrabenosaurus> rsalveti: does it matter in which order I flash the two ZIP files?
[20:01] <ali1234> why doesn't the qt creator wizard create a folder for my project?
[20:02] <danvaly> quick question
[20:02] <gentime> i was wondering if any could help with this error i get after i try to run phablet-flash onto my N7 --------------------------------failed to copy '/tmp/tmp_IE1aZ' to '/cache/recovery/command': Permission denied Error while excetuting adb push /tmp/tmp_IE1aZ /cache/recovery/command Make sure the device is connected and viewable by running 'adb devices' Ensure you have a root device, one which running 'adb root' does not return an
[20:02] <danvaly> does anyone tryed to install ubuntu on asus transformer tf101
[20:02] <danvaly> ??
[20:03] <ogra_> danvaly, not ported yet ...
[20:03] <danvaly> thanks
[20:03] <ogra_> i have a spare one lying here, i'll probably give it a shot next weekend if nobody did it before
[20:03] <rsalveti> ultrabenosaurus: nops, any order is fine
[20:03] <Soban> is it possible to have ubuntu on a nexus 7 without rooting it ?
[20:04] <ogra_> rooting ?
[20:04] <ogra_> you dont need to root a nexus
[20:04] <ali1234> you do need to unlock the bootloader though
[20:04] <ogra_> you need to unlock the bootloader though
[20:04] <ogra_> LOL
[20:04] <Soban> lol
[20:04] <ogra_> (which will wipe all your data)
[20:04] <Soban> ogra_: does it work greater that android ?
[20:05] <Soban> ogra_: i don't have any thing on it (almost)
[20:05] <ogra_> once it is ready it will, yes
[20:05] <ultrabenosaurus> rsalveti: just finished flashing and it booted up first time in less than a minute, looks beautiful!
[20:05] <ogra_> currently it is a developer preview
[20:05] <rsalveti> ultrabenosaurus: cool, enjoy :-)
[20:05] <ultrabenosaurus> rsalveti: thanks for your help today, sorry if I was asking silly questions! :D
[20:05] <ultrabenosaurus> ogra_: thanks for your help today, sorry if I was asking silly questions! :D
[20:06] <ogra_> there are no silly questions
[20:06] <ogra_> only impatient supporters :)
[20:06] <ali1234> can someone help me fix my ubuntu-sdk installation?
[20:06] <mhall119> I bet I could come up with one
[20:06] <mhall119> :)
[20:06] <ali1234> it is totally messed up
[20:06] <ogra_> heh, ask me :)
[20:06] <mhall119> raring or quantal?
[20:06] <ali1234> quantal
[20:06] <ogra_> though i'm on a chromebook currently
[20:07] <ali1234> i installed the original ppa
[20:07] <ali1234> then i installed the new one
[20:07] <ali1234> i also have necessitas installed
[20:07] <ali1234> it's turned into a giant mess
[20:07] <mhall119> PPA-hell :(
[20:07] <ali1234> yeah
[20:07] <ali1234> i ppa-purged the old ppa
[20:07] <ali1234> but i think that has deleted some stuff from new ppa as well or something
[20:07] <mhall119> wow, our list of device porting targets is growing fast!
[20:07] <ali1234> i need to clean it all out and start over
[20:07] <ogra_> yep
[20:08] <Soban> ogra_: is the operation reversible like getting back to the state it was ?
[20:08] <ogra_> you can always re-flash to the original android, yes
[20:08] <Gunstorm> hello guys, i can emulate the ubuntu phone OS to test the features on ubuntu desktop or on windows by a emulator?  and... the apt-get or aptitude isnt implemented rigth?
[20:09] <ogra_> mhall119, ^^^
[20:09]  * ogra_ giggles
[20:09] <rymate1234> Gunstorm, Ubuntu phone is just ubuntu
[20:09] <rymate1234> so it has apt-get IIRC
[20:09] <ali1234> eh, not really
[20:09] <ogra_> Gunstorm, not yet ... we are discussing the right approach for an emulator currently
[20:10] <ali1234> it has apt-get... it does not have X11 so virtually nothing from standard repos will work
[20:10] <mhall119> ogra_: see, I told ya :)
[20:10] <ali1234> except command line stuff... and it has no command line
[20:10] <Gunstorm> thanks ^^  4 the answers ^^
[20:10] <ali1234> and..... yes, we need an emulator
[20:11] <Soban> ali1234: no x11 ?? so how it shows the stuff ?
[20:11] <ali1234> is there a reason we can't build an image which targets android sdk emulator?
[20:11] <ali1234> Soban: magic
[20:11] <Soban> ali1234: no really
[20:11] <ogra_> Soban, the android display server
[20:11] <Tigrouzen> surfaceflinger
[20:12] <Tigrouzen> Opengl ES 2.0
[20:13] <ali1234> is this ubuntu-sdk actually supposed to be able to build for the phone and then push to it?
[20:13] <ogra_> yes
[20:13] <ali1234> hmm
[20:13] <ali1234> well, it doesn't work :(
[20:13] <ali1234> i only have desktop-build and desktop-debug
[20:13] <Tigrouzen> ali1234, you talk about phablet ppa ubuntu source ?
[20:13] <ali1234> yes
[20:14]  * Soban thinks he will wait for the real release or at last when he saw some one using ubuntu on his phone/tablet 
[20:14] <Soban> or android don't work good enough
[20:14] <doomlord> is wayland anything to do with ubuntu-tablet ditching x11 or is it completely different
[20:14] <ali1234> no
[20:15] <ogra_> completely different
[20:15] <doomlord> it just goes through gl directly?
[20:15] <Gunstorm> if the ubuntu phone os use de android display server with open gl es 2.0... the video drivers will not be a problem on the poting... rigth?
[20:15] <Soban> ogra_: what software you can have on it ?
[20:15] <netcurli> ali1234: you have to use the option under Build->Ubuntu->Run in Ubuntu device
[20:15] <ogra_> Gunstorm, exactly
[20:15] <ali1234> Gunstorm: yeah that's the point
[20:15] <Gunstorm> cool
[20:15] <Gunstorm> ^^
[20:15] <Soban> :)
[20:16] <Gunstorm> a last boring question... i promisse xD have some projects to create generic drivers for wifi, video, sound and another things and create an.... 'generic ubuntu phone os "distro"' to install on phone and a similar thing to the apt-get to download specifc drivers when it launch? ... xD only questions/suggest
[20:16] <ogra_> Soban, well, everything in ubuntu ... but you wont be able to run graphical X11 apps
[20:16] <ali1234> netcurli: ah i see. how strange
[20:16] <Soban> ogra_: some one sayed no terminal ?
[20:16] <ogra_> Soban, the apps for the touch UI still need to be written, thats the purpose of this preview
[20:16] <Tigrouzen> https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team
[20:16] <doomlord> heh back to square one with no X11, just need to get all those terminal programs running!
[20:16] <ali1234> what happened to "the same code will run everywhere?"
[20:16] <ogra_> there is ssh and adb for remoter terminals ...
[20:17] <ogra_> and there will be a terminal app too later
[20:17] <ali1234> hmm qt creator needs ssh on devce?
[20:17] <netcurli> ali1234: you can set this up under the Devices tab
[20:17] <ali1234> scp -o StrictHostKeyChecking=no -o UserKnownHostsFile=/dev/null -P2222 qmltest.tar.bz2 phablet@127.0.0.1:~
[20:17] <ali1234> wat
[20:18] <ogra_> dont run the SDK on the teblet :P
[20:19] <ali1234> i'm not
[20:19] <ali1234> "enable port forward to device from localhost"
[20:19] <ali1234> waaaaaat
[20:19] <Soban> ogra_: it look very great keep the good work :)
[20:20] <ali1234> none of these buttons work
[20:20] <netcurli> ali1234: you need "Enable developer mode"
[20:20] <ali1234> and how do i do that?
[20:20] <netcurli> there should be a large button there
[20:20] <netcurli> under Devices
[20:20] <popey> the buttons work for me ali1234
[20:20] <ali1234> there is one that says "disable developer mode"
[20:20] <netcurli> then you already have enabled it
[20:21] <mutantkeyboard> hi guys
[20:21] <ali1234> i never clicked the button
[20:21] <ali1234> anyway, this doesn't work
[20:21] <ali1234> it just tries to connect to localhost and then fails
[20:22] <mutantkeyboard> somebody asked me yesterday how to change a time or timezone ... I wrote an article on XDA http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38467029&postcount=562
[20:22] <ali1234> the adb stuff is working
[20:22] <ali1234> i can see where it pushed the key over adb in messages
[20:22] <Soban> mutantkeyboard: Hi
[20:23] <mutantkeyboard> Hello Soban:
[20:23] <Tigrouzen> ali1234, https://launchpad.net/unity/phablet
[20:24] <ali1234> yeah, it hasn;t detected the device
[20:24] <ali1234> /usr/share/qtcreator/ubuntu/scripts/device_search (none)
[20:25] <netcurli> do you have wifi enabled on the device
[20:25] <ali1234> yes
[20:25] <ali1234> if i run that script manually it detects device
[20:26] <Gunstorm> after read the reports aboit tests ... i think i will wait to contrib with tests after someone create an port of grub2 or the multiboot(http://www.google.com.br/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&ved=0CD0QFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.xda-developers.com%2Fandroid%2Fmulti-boot-manager-for-motorola-defy%2F&ei=zsgrUfGmGpS29gTi54B4&usg=AFQjCNG_v5hMTEyhYp-kt1N470zztJYYDQ&bvm=bv.42768644,d.eWU)  to install the ubuntu and 
[20:26] <ali1234> installing openssh-server manually...
[20:26] <mutantkeyboard> ali1234 what device do you have problems with?
[20:29] <mutantkeyboard> who is in the group ubuntu-phone? can I get the invite please
[20:29] <mrgoodcat> they merged channels
[20:30] <mrgoodcat> ubuntu-phone people are in here now
[20:30] <crypticmofo> people = peeps
[20:30] <turizm> peeps= peep shows
[20:30] <mutantkeyboard> I see... I tried to join ubuntu-phone and it says channel is invite only
[20:31] <mutantkeyboard> I was like ... what on earth???
[20:32] <genii-around> mutantkeyboard: It goes to #ubuntu-touch now
[20:33] <ali1234> ssh -o StrictHostKeyChecking=no -o UserKnownHostsFile=/dev/null -p2222 phablet@127.0.0.1 "bash -ic 'qmlscene /home/phablet/qmltest/qmltest.qml --desktop_file_hint=/home/phablet/qmltest/qmltest.desktop'"
[20:33] <ali1234> /home/phablet/qmltest/qmltest.qml <- this file does not exist
[20:34] <ali1234> the project wizard only creates one qml file and it is called /home/phablet/qmltest/qml/qmltest/main.qml
[20:34] <ali1234> and running that in qmltest does nothing
[20:34] <netcurli> what project type did you use?
[20:34] <mutantkeyboard> ali1234 did you use ubuntu simple project?
[20:35] <ali1234> qt quick 2
[20:35] <ali1234> i don't have "ubuntu simple project"
[20:35] <fmunozs> mhall119,  thanks :) I see that the png images were not submitted (which is good as i'm currently using twitter.com ones while we do graphics)
[20:35] <mutantkeyboard> ali1234 you need to update QT creator to version 2.7.0beta
[20:35] <mutantkeyboard> there will be ubuntu components
[20:36] <ali1234> and where do i get that?
[20:36] <mutantkeyboard> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install in step 1
[20:36] <mutantkeyboard> you have ppa for the phablet team and just do sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:36] <mutantkeyboard> and install tools
[20:36] <mutantkeyboard> that's it
[20:37] <ali1234> i have done that
[20:37] <mutantkeyboard> and when you open qt creator
[20:37] <ali1234> that doesn't even install any qt creator
[20:38] <Xistance> If adb doesn't work, it is a problem with my kernel right?
[20:38] <mutantkeyboard> oh sorry I sent you a wrong link
[20:39] <netcurli> ubuntu-sdk has qtcreator as a dependency
[20:39] <mutantkeyboard> http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/gomobile/
[20:39] <mutantkeyboard> yes indeed but the library is missing by default ...
[20:39] <ali1234> i have done that too
[20:39] <ali1234> i have installed the missing library too
[20:40] <mutantkeyboard> that's odd and you can't run the app from the phone?
[20:40] <ali1234> no
[20:40] <netcurli> you should have, when you create a new project under templates->Projects a line "Ubuntu"
[20:40] <ali1234> because i don't have "ubuntu simple project"
[20:41] <mutantkeyboard> go to ubuntu software center and search for qt creator you should have 2 there change to the one that says 2.7.0 beta
[20:41] <popey> ali1234: it's called "Ubuntu UI - Simple" here
[20:41] <mutantkeyboard> and change it do default
[20:41] <ali1234> popey: i don't have any ubuntu based templates at all
[20:42] <mutantkeyboard> if you have QT creator 2.5.0 (precise-ports) it won't work
[20:42] <ali1234> i have 2.6
[20:42] <popey> http://ppa.launchpad.net/canonical-qt5-edgers/qt5-staging/ubuntu/ is where my qtcreator came from
[20:42] <ali1234> mine too
[20:42] <popey>   Installed: 2.7.0~beta-0ubuntu2~raring1~test21
[20:42] <mutantkeyboard> that's one
[20:43] <ali1234> ii  qtcreator                 2.7.0~beta-0ubunt amd64
[20:43] <ali1234> in help->about it still says   p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }  Qt Creator 2.6.82
[20:44] <popey> do you have ii  ubuntu-qtcreator-plugins                      2.7.0~beta-0ubuntu2~raring1 amd
[20:44] <w00tc0d3> hmm
[20:44] <netcurli> ali1234: yes, you can ignore that
[20:44] <popey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5565862/
[20:44] <popey> thats what seems to contain them
[20:44] <popey> ubuntu-qtcreator-plugins 2.7.0~beta-0ubuntu2~raring1~test21
[20:45] <ali1234> this is not helpful to me :/
[20:45] <popey> why?
[20:45] <w00tc0d3> i'm porting backtrack "Kali", the newest unreleased version to the i9300 (SGS3 int), and I need to build the QT libs from source, with the patches Ubuntu made to integrate with Android. Could anyone, please, give me SSH access to a box which is capable of building it in a reasonable time? Thank you :)
[20:45] <ali1234> when i load up qt creator i see the ubuntu splash screen
[20:45] <mhall119> well that's something
[20:45] <ali1234> i just can't create projects
[20:45] <mhall119> do you have the Devices section on the left too
[20:45] <mhall119> ?
[20:45] <ali1234> yes
[20:46] <thebishop> did anyone manage to write a functioning music player over the weekend?
[20:46] <ali1234> it is detecting my device now that i installed ssh manually
[20:46] <popey> when you create a project do you not get this dialog? http://popey.com/~alan/qtwiz.png
[20:47] <ali1234> yes but the "Ubuntu" category is not present
[20:47] <popey> and you have ubuntu-qtcreator-plugins?
[20:47] <ali1234> i have ubuntu-sdk installed
[20:47] <popey> thats not what I asked ☺
[20:47] <ali1234> and my apt is not in an incorrect state
[20:48] <popey> so /usr/share/qtcreator/templates/wizards/ubuntu doesn't exist?
[20:48] <mutantkeyboard> ali this should show up when you fire up new project http://s8.postimage.org/c9aav0fud/screen.png
[20:48] <ali1234> popey: it exists
[20:48] <popey> how about /usr/share/qtcreator/templates/wizards/ubuntu/simple ?
[20:48] <ali1234> popey: it also exists
[20:49] <w00tc0d3> anyone?
[20:49] <popey> stuff in them?
[20:49] <mutantkeyboard> thebishop I did, but the driver is tricky
[20:49] <ali1234> yes
[20:49] <thebishop> mutantkeyboard, which driver?
[20:49] <mutantkeyboard> nexus sound driver
[20:49] <thebishop> ah ok
[20:49] <thebishop> mutantkeyboard, so it's not abstracted?
[20:50] <mutantkeyboard> it should be, but I'm trying a native access and I downloaded Android factory image for device
[20:50] <thebishop> ah ok
[20:50] <mutantkeyboard> playing around ;)
[20:50] <popey> w00tc0d3: i think that's an unlikely request to get fulfilled here really.
[20:50] <thebishop> yeah, seems like an odd choice for portability, but if you're having fun i won't stop you
[20:50] <w00tc0d3> popey: that's apparently true, i think, too busy here,
[20:51] <popey> w00tc0d3: no, I just think people would be mad to let a random person have ssh access and built tools :D
[20:51] <w00tc0d3> popey: i apparently know people who did but can't build ubuntu/backtrack on it D:
[20:54] <w00tc0d3> popey: well, if you know someone, shoot me a pm ;)
[20:54] <Xistance> I asked this before but if ADB doesn't work, is it a problem with my kernel?
[20:54] <w00tc0d3> it's your problem
[20:54] <w00tc0d3> check pc
[20:55] <Xistance> Works perfectly fine with CM10.1
[20:55] <Xistance> But I'll recheck
[20:55] <Xistance> thanks
[20:58] <ali1234> if i install raring can i do this without ppas?
[21:02] <ogra_> ali1234, i thinnk there are still some packages missing, so you still need the PPAs, but its getting close
[21:04] <ali1234> i'll just push my app to phone manually
[21:04] <ogra_> yeah, for now thats likley the easiest
[21:05] <Xistance> Well, adb not detecting my device isn't because of my PC. Did anyone else have this problem?
[21:05] <ali1234> oops... pushed entire git repo by accident... oh well
[21:06] <ali1234> Xistance: are you porting?
[21:06] <Xistance> Yeah
[21:06] <ali1234> what appears on lsusb?
[21:06] <ali1234> it likely is problem with kernel
[21:07] <w00tc0d3> did ubuntu change /sbin/init?
[21:07] <Xistance> Hmm, it doesn't show it as my device
[21:07] <Xistance> Mine is i9001
[21:07] <Xistance> it shows
[21:07] <Xistance> Bus 002 Device 008: ID 04e8:6860 Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd GT-I9100 Phone [Galaxy S II], GT-P7500 [Galaxy Tab 10.1]
[21:07] <ali1234> hum
[21:07] <ali1234> that's pretty weird
[21:08] <ali1234> dpm is working on i9001 according to devices wiki
[21:08] <ali1234> i had no such problems with i9000
[21:09] <ali1234> although it appears on lsusb : Bus 001 Device 066: ID 18d1:4e22 Google Inc. Nexus S (debug)
[21:09] <Xistance> I see :(
[21:10] <ali1234> try to go to recovery and run adb again
[21:10] <Xistance> works
[21:10] <Xistance> but this time it shows it as Galaxy Portal/Spice
[21:11] <Xistance> spica
[21:11] <jimmy> is there a way to ignore the device being unsupported with phablet-flash
[21:11] <ali1234> hmmmmm this is weird
[21:11] <Xistance> Just push the zip to your sdcard and flash
[21:11] <ali1234> my app runs and i can hear it making sounds when i touch the screen but it doesn't display anything
[21:11] <Xistance> don't forget the cd image
[21:11] <jimmy> ok cool
[21:11] <ali1234> and touch interaction goes to homescreen
[21:12] <ali1234> do i have to do anything special when i run qmlscene from ssh?
[21:13] <ali1234> oh, i found it
[21:13] <ali1234> this is *really* buggy
[21:14] <ali1234> maybe its cos i used raw QML
[21:22] <ali1234> hmm now it just segfaults every time
[21:22] <ali1234> __pthread_gettid -2 Segmentation fault
[21:23] <Tigrouzen> vnc
[21:23] <balloons> how do I reboot the device after installing ubuntu touch?
[21:24] <ali1234> hmm... using ubuntu components doesn't help... it still can't draw to the screen
[21:25] <balloons> hmm. looks like just holding the button does it if nothing else :-)
[21:26] <dpm> ali1234, i9003, that's a different one :)
[21:27] <ali1234> oops, i misread it :)
[21:30] <ali1234> ubuntuappmanager is segfaulting on a loop
[21:37] <sergiusens> balloons: abd reboot
[21:37] <sergiusens> balloons: I mean, adb reboot
[21:37] <sergiusens> balloons: more details are in the release notes
[21:38] <balloons> sergiusens, excellent, ty
[21:38] <balloons> didn't think about adb tools.. d'oh
[21:41] <GeekSquid> Has anybody tried running ubuntu-tablet on a virtual machine? something tells me it would work really well, I got to see it this weekend at SCALE,... Awesome!, Really Beautiful Interface/UI
[21:43] <Tigrouzen> GeekSquid, not but i make vnc server with X gnome session on phone
[21:43] <Tigrouzen> then use vnc
[21:43] <GeekSquid> I'll give it a try!
[21:44] <ali1234> ok i tried to run the minimal QML example on ssh and it doesn't work
[21:44] <ali1234> it runs but no visual output
[21:45] <ali1234> it doesn't seem to be registering as an application
[21:45] <Tigrouzen> now im compiling last revision from lp on phone
[21:46] <Tigrouzen> also quake 3 sdl
[21:48] <netcurli> ali1234: the apps using the ubuntu template use MainView as root element and have an applicationName property
[21:49] <ali1234> netcurli: i used the simple template
[21:49] <ali1234> nothing apears on screen when i run it
[21:50] <netcurli> you run it directly from the shell or via qtcreator?
[21:50] <ali1234> from shell
[21:50] <netcurli> do you get any kind of output?
[21:51] <ali1234> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5566056/
[21:51] <netcurli> ok
[21:52] <netcurli> try running an app on the device, like the phone app for example
[21:52] <netcurli> and then run your qmlscene command
[21:53] <ali1234> netcurli: that works... sort of
[21:54] <ali1234> right edge swipe doesn't work
[21:54] <ali1234> when i open the app drawer it crashes on terminal
[21:54] <ali1234> then when i try to switch back to phone app i still see the hello world example
[21:55] <ali1234> hmmmmmm is random broken?
[21:56] <ali1234> and now sound has crashed
[21:58] <ali1234> E/MediaPlayer( 1453): start called in state 64
[22:09] <shaneo1> oh man i just got word that Ubuntu Touch is not really ubuntu its just a skin is that true
[22:10] <netcurli> if you consider an ubuntu chroot on top of a minimal cm 10 a skin
[22:10] <ali1234> ಠ_ಠ
[22:11] <shaneo1> I don't fully understand, but there are some youtube channels boasting about it and if word gets out and twisted around canonical may as well pack up.  you know what consumers are like and the media
[22:12] <shaneo1> damn sometimes I wish ubuntu was not so open source.. :-/
[22:13] <baruch6132> Hey i run the phablet-flash -b and it downloads and then nothing
[22:13] <baruch6132> Oh 1 sec i thnk checksum was wrong
[22:14] <mhall119> shaneo1: Ubuntu Touch is not just a skin on Android
[22:14] <baruch6132> Ik...
[22:14] <mhall119> shaneo1: it uses Cyanogenmod to run on Android hardware
[22:15] <Tigrouzen> to comunicate with kernel
[22:15] <shaneo1> yes I can see the reason behind it.
[22:16] <shaneo1> and I think its great, but for non geeks I hope this don't become an issue.
[22:16] <mhall119> shaneo1: think of the use of cyanogenmod as how we use windows in a wubi install
[22:16] <mhall119> shaneo1: it's only an issue for people who want it to be an issue
[22:16] <ali1234> that's a terrible analogy
[22:16] <mhall119> ali1234: I know, but I couldn't think of a better one :(
[22:17] <mhall119> I was going to go with virtualbox or qemu, but that analogy sucks too
[22:17] <ali1234> it's more like running ubuntu in a virtual machine on windows
[22:17] <ali1234> but that is flawed too
[22:17] <shaneo1> I understand, it slingshots the android kernal drivers to Ubuntu so it just works
[22:18] <mhall119> shaneo1: long story short, cyanogenmod is there to enable the hardware ,not the software
[22:18] <shaneo1> thanks mhall119 ;-) makes sense, concidering we don't have ubuntu specific hardware just yet.
[22:19] <shaneo1> has anyone got QT Creator to work with 13.04 yet? im having issues with the Ubuntu.Component 0.1 imports
[22:20] <shaneo1> I see workarounds for 12.04, but i guess its early days for 13.04  yet
[22:20] <ogra_> shaneo1, see the bottom of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices .... we released 5 days ago, there are people already working on porting ubuntu-touch to over 20 devices ...
[22:20] <mainerror> ello
[22:20] <shaneo1> I know thats great news orga
[22:20] <mainerror> Still no Ubuntu SDK for raring. :(
[22:20] <ogra_> shaneo1, thats only possible because android is the bottom layer
[22:20] <mainerror> ogra_: ikr? It's crazy.
[22:21] <shaneo1> you think google is ok with this??
[22:21] <ali1234> chairs will fly
[22:21] <ogra_> shaneo1, and "porting" essentially means copy paste of some lines, pulling some other code into the tree and doing a successfull build of it
[22:21] <mainerror> shaneo1: It was open source. ;)
[22:21] <mainerror> Well, it is open source.
[22:22] <ogra_> thats all only possible due to the fact that android is underneath
[22:22] <mhall119> shaneo1: I have it working in 13.04
[22:22] <matbee> Getting HSPA+ to work probably isn't remotely possible, is it? :)
[22:22] <ogra_> its opensource, its legal and google needs to be ok with it :)
[22:22] <shaneo1> yeah I know it was OSS, but if Ubuntu takes off like I feel it will google will rip us apart
[22:22] <mainerror> mhall119: :o
[22:22] <mainerror> Like, you have QtQuick2 on raring?
[22:23] <mhall119> mainerror: yup
[22:23] <mainerror> That's missing for me. :(
[22:23] <shaneo1> oh cool mhall119, you know of any step guides
[22:23] <mhall119> mainerror: did you install ubuntu-sdk package?
[22:23] <mainerror> Yea.
[22:23] <mainerror> Even reinstalled it.
[22:23] <mhall119> that *should* have installed everything you need
[22:23] <mhall119> do you have an executable named ubuntu-qtcreator?
[22:24] <shaneo1> I can get it to reboot phone, and reflash the phone etc, but running qml apps flags ubuntu.components import as error
[22:24] <shaneo1> let me see
[22:24] <mainerror> mhall119: Yup, but no QtQuick2 in the templates.
[22:25] <ali1234> mainerror: i have same, on quantal
[22:25] <ali1234> everything is installed, it just doesn't work
[22:25] <mhall119> mainerror: did you have the qt5-beta1 PPA installed?
[22:25] <mainerror> Mhmm, on quantal I'm find.
[22:25] <mhall119> there were some problems upgrading from the beta PPA
[22:26] <mainerror> mhall119: uhm, I had only the one's that were in the qt-proper ppa.
[22:26] <mainerror> I should probably purge everything qt5 and libqt5 related and start over.
[22:26] <shaneo1> I have this repo  ppa:canonical-qt5-edgers/qt5-proper  & ppa:ubuntu-sdk-team
[22:26] <mhall119> mainerror: I think you still need the ubuntu-sdk-team PPA
[22:27] <mhall119> but I'm not positive anymore
[22:27] <mainerror> yea, got that one too.
[22:28] <mhall119> mainerror: do you have ubuntu-qtcreator-plugins package installed?
[22:28] <mainerror> Yup, version 2.7.0~beta-0ubuntu
[22:30] <shaneo1> oh i didn't have ubuntu-qtcreator-plugins
[22:30] <mhall119> mainerror: huh, I'm not sure what you're missing then
[22:31] <IbrahimA> i keep getting errors because some of the git remotes hung up unexpectedly, anyone else have this?
[22:32] <IbrahimA> when trying to repo sync
[22:32] <Scognito> hi, I'm trying to compile ubuntu touch for my galaxy s2...I have pulled 2 directories: i9100 and galaxys2common...which one should I use?
[22:32] <IbrahimA> (trying to port to a new device that has cyanogenmod)
[22:32] <ogra_> IbrahimA, yes, the git server is massively overloaded
[22:33] <ali1234> IbrahimA: pm me for fast mirror
[22:33] <ali1234> (you might need to be registered to pm me)
[22:34] <shaneo1> is anyone working on a VNC viewer to show Ubuntu Desktop on the phone :-)   (sorry bad joke)
[22:34] <IbrahimA> oh huh that's kind of surprising
[22:34] <ali1234> shaneo1: yes, someone said they were working on it earlier
[22:34] <IbrahimA> im surprised they didn't mirror it to github then
[22:35] <IbrahimA> if load is a problem
[22:35] <ali1234> IbrahimA: it's not load, it's connection limit :/
[22:35] <IbrahimA> oh :(
[22:35] <IbrahimA> well either way im sure github would have handled it fine
[22:36] <ali1234> well the trouble is that the way repo works, it checks out one git repo which has a list of others
[22:36] <ali1234> in a couple of days load will calm down
[22:36] <ali1234> but then everyone will still have their manifest pointing to github
[22:36] <IbrahimA> yeah i know how repo works, ive built cyanogenmod before
[22:39] <ali1234> i think it's bureaucracy more than anything
[22:41] <shaneo1> i get this error now when I load qt creator: Cannot load plugin because dependency failed to load: ProjectExplorer(2.6.82) Reason: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qtcreator/plugins/QtProject/libProjectExplorer.so: Cannot load library /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qtcreator/plugins/QtProject/libProjectExplorer.so: (libQt5Declarative.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)
[22:41] <shaneo1> cant see libprojectexplorer in synaptic
[22:44] <RobbyF> any news in ubuntu touch world @MWC or here?
[22:46] <shaneo1> ok I had to install libqt5declarative5
[22:47] <RobbyF> If any devs need webhosting / VPS services please pm me and i'll offer it free for a month or so.
[22:48] <mainerror> Oy ... I think I've just removed qt packages that were needed ... should not have deleted the qt4 packages. :D
[22:50] <epertinez> hi
[22:50] <shaneo1> Oh doing that could have nasty problems with your ubuntu desktop... I noticed that a lot of stuff are connected.
[22:50] <shaneo1> hi
[22:50] <mainerror> Well yea,  that obviously was not a smart move. :D
[22:51] <epertinez> I don't know if there is a way to reload past conversation in irc, so i am sorry if that has already been asked.
[22:51] <shaneo1> see you in about 30 minutes after os reinstall :-D
[22:51] <epertinez> has anybody tried to compile against exopc?
[22:52] <mainerror> Nah, I'll just reinstall packages as I observe the need. :)
[22:52] <mainerror> Not that problematic.
[22:53] <ali1234> epertinez: it's only really viable to port to android devices at this point
[22:54] <baruch6132> Just finished installing ubuntu touch on my nexus 7
[22:54] <epertinez> ok, thank you. I thought i386 should be easy, as long as ubuntu comes from there.
[22:54] <ali1234> epertinez: it will come, but not yet
[22:55] <ali1234> epertinez: the system is split in half, android base + ubuntu chroot
[22:55] <ali1234> and the ubuntu part is specially modified to use android drivers
[22:55] <epertinez> oh, i didn't knew it.
[22:55] <baruch6132> When it's finished will it be android base?
[22:55] <epertinez> so it is like ubuntu for android but ubunut rulling?
[22:56] <ali1234> epertinez: no, it's not like that at all
[22:56] <mainerror> baruch6132: What do you mean?
[22:56] <ali1234> epertinez: ubuntu for android runs under virtualization with a normal kernel. this is running on an android kernel.
[22:57] <baruch6132> Like when ubuntu is actually on phones and retail, will it be android based?
[22:57] <dank101> baruch6132, maybe...
[22:57] <epertinez> its ubunut with android kernel then (more or less).
[22:58] <ali1234> epertinez: yes, android kernel and also android drivers... which requires some tricks because android uses different libc
[22:58] <epertinez> androidx86 worked on exopc, so that could give me hope...
[22:58] <ali1234> epertinez: the actual UI could be run on any Qt system, if you repackaged it all, but the infrastructure isn't in place to do that yet
[22:59] <mainerror> mhall119: I think the Ubuntu SDK just doesn't like me. Just manually removed all qt packages and reinstalled them from the PPAs. Still nothing. :(
[23:00] <epertinez> ok. ali1234, thank you very much. youu've been extremely helpfull.
[23:01] <shaneo1> im starting over with 12.10 in a Vbox
[23:02] <shaneo1> not quite ready for 13.04 yet
[23:03] <popey> 13.04 is broken in vbox anyway
[23:03] <shaneo1> in vbox if you want 13.04 insall 12.10 then upgrade
[23:05] <shaneo1> is there a website with a list of apps being worked on other than the core apps?
[23:08] <popey> shaneo1: no, upgrading wont work
[23:08] <netcurli> shaneo1: https://plus.google.com/u/0/109919666334513536939/posts/hKR6xsi33cf
[23:08] <shaneo1> great thanks netcurli
[23:09] <shaneo1> what command are you using popey
[23:09] <shaneo1> to upgrade
[23:09] <popey> its not the upgrade that's broken
[23:09] <popey> it's compiz in 13.04
[23:10] <shaneo1> oh right yeah of course
[23:10] <ali1234> lol... compiz
[23:10] <shaneo1> I know what a joke
[23:10] <ali1234> you could always switch to gnome classic
[23:10] <shaneo1> eek
[23:10] <shaneo1> boring
[23:10] <ali1234> runs well in vbox
[23:10] <ali1234> unlike... pretty much everything else
[23:11] <shaneo1> i remember when 10.10 worked like a dream
[23:11] <popey> yeah, you could use some other desktop of course
[23:11] <ali1234> yes, 10.10 was best :)
[23:11] <ogra_> compiz runs fine on my raring chromebook ...
[23:11] <ali1234> but enough of that :)
[23:11] <shaneo1> thats the day I ditched windows 7
[23:11] <popey> indeed
[23:11] <ogra_> popey, you should just switch to a sane processore architecture :)
[23:14] <popey> Why yes, I have been considering going back to Z80.
[23:14] <ogra_> LOL
[23:14] <ogra_> on your wrist watch you mean (btw, that casio is a beauty)
[23:15] <ali1234> can i run ubuntu touch on this? : http://www.wilson.co.ltd.xfou.com/kingbig.jpg
[23:16] <shaneo1> i still have my Z80+ in the loft at my parents with a lot of cassette games ZX Spectrum 128A+ with a light gun :)
[23:16] <popey> yeah ☺
[23:16] <shaneo1> ali1234 the screen is way to big
[23:17] <ali1234> but it has Z80 cpu...
[23:18] <drap> rst $38
[23:18] <IbrahimA> hmm Z80 was also in the original game boy and TI 83 right?
[23:19] <bcurtiswx> where should one talk about app devel issues for ubuntu mobile apps ?
[23:19] <ali1234> yes
[23:19] <ali1234> bcurtiswx: here i guess
[23:20] <bcurtiswx> im trying to use QtQuick.LocalStorage but i get errors of QSQLITE driver not loaded but don't know how to add it.
[23:23] <popey> bcurtiswx: qtdeclarative5-localstorage-plugin is probably missing, apt-get it
[23:23] <bcurtiswx> popey, i have that
[23:24] <fmunozs> file:///usr/share/notepad-qml/Models/DataModel.qml:103: Error: Driver not loaded Driver not loaded
[23:24] <fmunozs> that error bcurtiswx?
[23:25] <fmunozs> QSqlDatabase: QSQLITE driver not loaded
[23:25] <bcurtiswx> fmunozs, yes
[23:25] <fmunozs> and that
[23:25] <popey> i found i got that error the first time, not the second
[23:25] <fmunozs> yea, same issue here just installed localstorage plugin
[23:26] <bcurtiswx> i already installed it yesterday, still get this error, at the top i added "import QtQuick.LocalStorage 2.0"
[23:27] <bcurtiswx> this may be a stupid question, does order of import play any role in things working or not ?
[23:28] <goga> hi
[23:31] <bcurtiswx> fmunozs, foudn the fix,
[23:32] <bcurtiswx> fmunozs, sudo apt-get install libqt5sql5-sqlite
[23:33] <fmunozs> bcurtiswx, nice! I was searching for libqt5sql-lite
[23:35] <bcurtiswx> so how should we save sqlite data between app sessions?
[23:37] <bcurtiswx> or maybe a better understanding of sqlite. I create a new database, where does that database go ?
[23:40] <ali1234> bcurtiswx: it goes into a file, cos that's what sqlite does
[23:40] <bcurtiswx> ali1234, thx. where does this file disappear off to ?
[23:40] <ali1234> that's up to you as developer
[23:40] <ali1234> you set the name you want
[23:42] <bcurtiswx> i've specified no location yet, where would a default location be ?
[23:42] <ali1234> i have a feeling that if you don't specify a location it makes a database in memory only
[23:42] <ali1234> but i'm not 100% sure of that
[23:42] <ali1234> and i've never used SQLite in QML
[23:42] <bcurtiswx> ali1234, i quit the app and started it up again and new entries show
[23:43] <ali1234> ssh into tablet and run find -iname '*.sqlite'
[23:44] <bcurtiswx> ali1234, ok. thanks
[23:44] <ali1234> you might also check QDeclarativeEngine :: offlineStoragePath()
[23:48] <BHSPiMonkey> Hello all. Is it fairly simple to get from a desktop 13.04 installation on a nexus 7 to the new interface? Perhaps something as simple as apt-get install ubuntu-touch?
[23:49] <ali1234> BHSPiMonkey: hi :)
[23:49] <ali1234> no, it's not nearly that simple
[23:50] <BHSPiMonkey> wonderful :P
[23:50] <ali1234> there's some deep magic going on. ubuntu-touch runs on top of android, and uses android drivers
[23:50] <BHSPiMonkey> oh my
[23:51] <ali1234> i don't think the flashing tool works if you have ubuntu-arm on the phone already
[23:51] <ali1234> but you can flash it manually
[23:51] <BHSPiMonkey> I wonder why they didn't just build it out on top of the existing ubuntu port
[23:51] <ali1234> BHSPiMonkey: because the idea is to make it run on *any* android phone
[23:51] <BHSPiMonkey> ali1234: I'm currently multibooting
[23:51] <ali1234> android as BSP
[23:52] <ali1234> BHSPiMonkey: i'm not sure if that makes it more complicated...
[23:52] <barry> is anybody else getting spammed by fox_yrjkmk on the mailing list?  (i.e. hundreds of messages but just from that addr)?
[23:52] <ali1234> ubuntu touch is supposedly compatible with multirom
[23:52] <ali1234> but this is not supported
[23:53] <BHSPiMonkey> right
[23:53] <ali1234> try xda forums
[23:53] <ali1234> the roms are here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/quantal/mwc-demo/
[23:53] <ali1234> you need all the "grouper" ones, plus quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip
[23:54] <BHSPiMonkey> are these standard clockworkmod-compatible zips?
[23:54] <ali1234> yes
[23:54] <ali1234> well they are CWM compatible
[23:54] <ubuntubhoy> There are flashable zips on XDA
[23:54] <ali1234> as for "standard"...
[23:54] <BHSPiMonkey> what's the difference between the zips on cdimage and the "flashable" zips on xda?
[23:54] <ali1234> i have no idea
[23:55] <BHSPiMonkey> I take "flashing" to mean installing via the cwm recovery menu
[23:55] <ali1234> normally android roms are one big zip... these are split up for some reason
[23:55] <ubuntubhoy> they push via the installer
[23:55] <ali1234> BHSPiMonkey: it's certainly possible to install these that way
[23:55] <ali1234> but i don't know what will happen to your existing install if you do
[23:55] <ali1234> also you might need to format some partitions or you might run out of space
[23:56] <ubuntubhoy> and if you nandroid first, copy it to an external source
[23:56] <ubuntubhoy> some have 'went missing'
[23:56] <BHSPiMonkey> I have the 32gb n7, I should be okay I think
[23:56] <ali1234> better to be safe
[23:56] <BHSPiMonkey> ubuntubhoy: stolen by sabdfl!
[23:57] <ubuntubhoy> its not a space issue
[23:57] <BHSPiMonkey> I was answering the "you might run out of space" message
[23:57] <ali1234> well, there's not one big partition...
[23:57] <BHSPiMonkey> which sounds like a space issue at first glance
[23:57] <ubuntubhoy> no
[23:57] <ubuntubhoy> you have dif partitions
[23:58] <ubuntubhoy> regardless of 8,16,or 32G
[23:59] <ali1234> basically you need a minimum of 1.5GB free on /data due to way it unpacks
[23:59] <bcurtiswx> if i want qml to take the text of a ListItem and make it strikethrough, how would I do that?
[23:59] <ali1234> bcurtiswx: you can style Qt elements with CSS