[08:58] <danfish_wibble> morning
[09:00] <dwatkins> hi folks
[09:00] <daubers> Morning
[09:01] <jacobw> morning guys
[09:02] <dwatkins> my x86_64 machine at home has started randomly rebooting itself, I hope it's not the power supply
[09:02] <dwatkins> has anyone else noticed this with the current AMD driver?
[09:08] <ali1234> dwatkins: no, and i use mine for bitcoin mining
[09:09] <ali1234> just updated it about a week ago too
[09:09] <dwatkins> ali1234: which card do you have?
[09:09] <dwatkins> I think I simply need a more powerful PSU.
[09:09] <dwatkins> Perhaps Ubuntu doesn't handle power management the same as Windows, and spins something additional up after a couple hours which takes it over the threshold and it runs out of amps.
[09:14] <ali1234> dwatkins: 5870
[09:15] <dwatkins> similar to mine, probably needs at least a 750 Watt PSU, I imagine.
[09:15] <ali1234> hah, no
[09:15] <ali1234> i have a 400W PSU
[09:15] <ali1234> and the machine uses no more than 300W at the wall when running at maximum load
[09:16] <dwatkins> hmm, I wonder what else might be causing this, then - unless having two hard disks and a SATA blu-ray drive takes me over the limit of my PSU
[09:16] <JamesTait> Happy Monday, all! :-D
[09:16] <ali1234> maybe but i doubt it
[09:16] <ali1234> the card is about 70% of power usage for me
[09:16] <dwatkins> There's nothing in the logs which suggests a crash, so ran memtest86 over night
[09:17] <dwatkins> Perhaps I should just leave it running for a day or two just to be sure.
[09:19] <popey> can anyone identify the url in this shockingly bad photo? http://popey.com/~alan/whatisthis.jpg ? (bonus points for not pointing out it was taken from a car)
[09:20] <popey> looks like www.pin2... or www.pim2... something
[09:20] <dwatkins> popey: where? on the black car?
[09:20] <popey> yes
[09:21] <dwatkins> will see what I can find out
[09:22] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps
[09:22] <dwatkins> the elephant looks vaguely familiar in the logo
[09:22] <ali1234> pinzyme.com
[09:23] <bigcalm> Was it a bad driver you need to report?
[09:23] <ali1234> checks out, same elephant logo
[09:23] <popey> thanks
[09:23] <ali1234> bigcalm: fo that number plate would be enough :)
[09:24] <bigcalm> ali1234: to the police, sure. But one might want to contact a company 1st
[09:30] <AlanBell> popey: I thought I would try a google reverse image search of the logo
[09:30] <diplo> Morning all
[09:30] <AlanBell> never do that with pink things with safesearch turned off
[09:31] <bigcalm> Nice way to start Monday morning
[09:31] <ali1234> "unless you're into that kind of thing"
[09:31] <bigcalm> AlanBell: your fault for having safe search turned off? :)
[09:32] <popey> I did AlanBell ☺
[09:32] <AlanBell> I hadn't realised that it looked like that at all
[09:32] <popey> and yes, found lots of odd unsavoury images, mostly of faces tho
[09:33] <ali1234> did nobody consider just using autolevels to enhance the image?
[09:34] <mungbean> google image search seems mostly colour matching
[09:35] <popey> i had a fiddle in gimp, but wasn't sure which tool to use tbh
[09:35] <diplo> ali1234: Installing Neccesitas ( sp? ) now, looks good so far though. Thanks for the heads up
[09:37] <ali1234> popey: colours->levels
[09:37] <popey> thanks
[09:37] <ali1234> colour->hue and saturation sometimes helps too
[09:37] <ali1234> though you can do same thing from levels
[09:37] <popey> http://www.theverge.com/2013/2/25/4027018/lg-buys-webos-smart-tv  #blimey
[09:38] <ali1234> in fact there's really only two operations, levels and convolve - these are the raw form of every other function
[09:38] <ali1234> hmm i thought webos went open source?
[09:38] <popey> yeah
[09:38] <ali1234> so... thet bought the development team?
[09:39] <diplo> Last year we heard that LG was working on a smart TV based on Open webOS
[09:40] <diplo>   #blimey
[09:40] <diplo> c&p fail!
[09:41] <diplo> http://www.webosnation.com/gram-working-lg-open-webos-tv
[10:42] <brobostigon> good morning everyone,
[10:57] <redtape-renegade> morning .. are the kids still on holiday ?
[10:59] <popey> not ours
[11:00] <diplo> Depends where you are, my kids were off the week before last. So this is their 2nd week back :)
[11:01] <Azelphur> I think in some places it's off for another 2 weeks
[11:05] <davmor2> Morning all
[11:07] <Azelphur> morning
[11:07] <Azelphur> I had a fun morning, told my landlord I'm starting the process of suing him
[11:07] <mgdm> o_O
[11:09] <dwatkins> Azelphur: sounds like fun...
[11:09] <Azelphur> indeed
[11:09] <dwatkins> msy I ask what they did to you?
[11:11] <Azelphur> dwatkins: I've been living here for 4 months with a drain in my driveway with no cover, broken gutters that turn my driveway into a waterfall every time it rains, no letterbox, broken washing machine, oven, extractor fan, fire alarms sounding for up to 6 hour stints while the landlord ignores the "24/7 available emergency phone line" stipulated in the contract, he promised gated access to entice me to move in, then never did it...
[11:11] <dwatkins> Azelphur: crikey :-/ on the up-side, it sounds like you have a strong case
[11:12] <Azelphur> yep
[11:13] <Azelphur> oh also the area outside my house (which is the landlords property, but I have to walk through it to get to my house) is simply disgusting, trash everywhere, it's started accumulating dead animals.
[11:13] <Azelphur> and the lower level has busted drains, so it fills up with up to 3 inches of water, which makes the trash smell even nicer.
[11:13] <brobostigon> :(
[11:13] <Azelphur> nothing like rain water and trash in the morning :P
[11:14] <brobostigon> ewwww
[11:14] <Azelphur> I'm surprised those lower level flats havn't flooded in all honesty
[11:14] <Azelphur> I saw the water right up on their doorstep once
[11:14] <Azelphur> literally 1cm higher and it would have been in
[11:15] <brobostigon> also isnt that illegal, unhygenic living conditions. ?
[11:15] <Azelphur> yep, multiple section 11 violations, breaches of contract, etc
[11:15] <Azelphur> legal advisor told me that I can sue him, get a forced repair order put out, and get compensation
[11:16] <brobostigon> sounds like a good start,
[11:16] <Azelphur> indeed
[11:16] <mgdm> I'd start looking for alternatives, too :-)
[11:17] <Azelphur> mgdm: plenty of alternatives in this road, they just built a really nice new block at the end of the street.
[11:17] <Azelphur> this road has a government restoration project going on, so there's lots of new stuff available.
[13:14] <MsCourtney> Hi
[13:14] <popey> hello
[13:21] <dwatkins> lo
[13:42] <davmor2> hello
[14:29]  * neuro yawns
[14:30] <neuro> oscars are not conducive to sleep
[14:31] <czajkowski> were they any good?
[14:31] <popey> people watch that live!?
[14:31] <popey> *boggle*
[14:32] <neuro> i would have watched it all in one go live
[14:32] <neuro> but i was watching it via NowTV
[14:32] <neuro> (aka Sky's "you don't have to subscribe to Sky to watch Sky Movies" IPTV thing)
[14:32] <neuro> it fell over very hard for about an hour and a quarter about 40 mins into the ceremony
[14:35] <neuro> and considering they'd lured new users in with a 30 day free trial, specifically promoting the fact they'd show the oscars live, it's a bit of a shame
[14:35] <neuro> and compared to netflix, nowtv is a bit of a joke
[14:36] <neuro> very poor catalogue (basically whatever's airing on sky movies right now), poor HD ondemand quality, no HD for live channels (you can watch all the sky movies channels as they air)
[14:36] <neuro> and they seem to crash a lot
[14:36] <neuro> czajkowski: and yes, i thought they were good
[14:37] <neuro> didn't agree with best director, but the right film won best film
[14:38] <neuro> bit of a travesty that affleck wasn't nominated for best dir tho
[14:41] <neuro> popey: but yes, to more succinctly answer your question, because I consider myself a movie buff, yes, I usually watch the Oscars as they air
[14:41] <neuro> lots of people do
[14:45] <popey> yeah, I sit up and watch election results come in, same thing I guess
[14:50] <neuro> it's like watching a football game or a grand prix, i'd rather watch it live and find out the results in real time than have to dodge the news for up to 24h until I see the highlights or a recording :)
[15:27] <BigRedS> Is there an easy way to find out why a package that was once in the repos no longer is?
[15:27] <popey> do you have a specific example or is this a general enq?
[15:28] <BigRedS> yeah, imapsync
[15:28] <BigRedS> but, in general, it seems that there should be a link somewhere in my search results saying why lucid was the last to have it
[15:28] <popey> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=609845
[15:28] <popey> "The author of the software cleary stated, that he wished to no longer
[15:28] <popey> have his software distributed in Debian."
[15:30] <BigRedS> Oh, fair enough. I guess a lot of the time a package falls out of Ubuntu 'cause Debian stops packaging it?
[15:30] <BigRedS> just would be nice to have an easy link for where a package went and what I'm supposed to do instead for any package that I might be expecting to still find
[15:38] <davmor2> Hmmmmmmmm Moby Extreme Ways is a funky tune god bless the bourne trilogy for highlighting it for me :)
[15:41] <mgdm> it's a good tune but it's more or less a clone of one off Play
[15:42] <popey> BigRedS: yeah, i generally just google for "debian dropped <packagename" or "removed" and find out pretty quickly
[15:45] <davmor2> BigRedS: there is the ability to back track on https;//apps.ubuntu.com/cat/  search for the pacakge and then on the package details you can see version numbers, or via packages.ubuntu.com  tracking why it was dropped is something else all together
[15:52] <BigRedS> yeah, it's the why it was dropped that seemed to be something that would be obviously recorded somewhere linked to from the packages record on packages.[ubuntu|debian].[com|org]
[16:07] <davmor2> BigRedS: Yes I think the issue is how to display it if the package no longer exists if that makes sense
[16:17] <BigRedS> yeah
[16:24] <neuro> jings
[16:24] <neuro> €50 for imapsync
[16:26] <redtape-renegade> Went to Port Erin today for a Pint . Told a bloke he'd missed a sport , Bloke wasn't happy :) https://dl.dropbox.com/u/55128914/Lubuntu%20docs/Port%20Erin%20at%202pm.JPG
[16:27] <redtape-renegade> **spot..
[16:45] <MartijnVdS> redtape-renegade: that string is .. incredible
[16:45] <MartijnVdS> how does it stay up?
[16:46] <mgdm> I think it's more an artifact of the panorama generation
[16:48] <MartijnVdS> I know
[16:48] <MartijnVdS> but still!
[16:48] <MartijnVdS> Also... ISLE OF MAN, Y U STEAL SUN!?
[16:48] <MartijnVdS> (or clear skies at least)
[16:51] <SuperMatt> wait, isle of man has sun?
[16:56] <MartijnVdS> SuperMatt: tax reasons
[16:57] <SuperMatt> oh, of course
[16:58] <SuperMatt> The Sun has got to store all the money he saves for a rainy day
[18:51] <redtape-renegade> MartijnVdS: Hi .. looks like I missed my 15 minutes of fame today ?
[19:05] <ali1234> we seem to have a bit of an explosion of mobile ux...
[19:14] <ubuntubhoy> choice is good ali1234
[19:15] <popey> heh
[19:29] <redtape-renegade> I'm feeling slightly light headed on my left side . Not sure if it's my left ear or brain cancer ?? Is there a Doctor in the house ?
[19:31] <AlanBell> http://hackntalk.eventbrite.com/ weekend after next in London
[19:32] <AlanBell> and a hangout online
[19:32] <redtape-renegade> ooh cool ..
[19:32] <redtape-renegade> opening...
[19:35] <popey> hmm, meeting date needs fixing
[19:35] <davmor2> popey: all the time in the world and you came up with this "Let’s talk about six, baby:" ........... What a steaming pile of Awesome :)
[19:35] <redtape-renegade> mmm London .. do they do raspberry pi stuff ??
[19:35] <popey> "they"?
[19:36] <redtape-renegade> at the meeting ?
[19:36] <davmor2> popey: the collective you then ;)
[19:37] <redtape-renegade> this could possible be a cluster-fcuk  .. Lets address the problems ppl face with this topic to help them.
[19:40] <popey> what?
[19:41] <redtape-renegade> Well how do we get there e.g. ?
[19:41] <popey> where? HackNTalk?
[19:41] <redtape-renegade> yep.
[19:41] <popey> I would use whatever navigation system was at my disposal to get me to the address presented on the web page linked above.
[19:41]  * AlanBell points in the direction of Google + hangouts
[19:42] <redtape-renegade> Can we comment on a webpage, somewhere ?
[19:42]  * AlanBell will be using a train to get there in person
[19:42] <redtape-renegade> Aahh
[19:42]  * AlanBell is slightly confused by the current conversation
[19:42] <redtape-renegade> AlanBell: Is the 'hangout' scheduled ?
[19:42]  * popey is also somewhat confused
[19:43] <redtape-renegade> I'm just ironing out creases..
[19:43] <popey> Oh, I do enjoy ironing
[19:43] <redtape-renegade> AlanBell: Is the 'hangout' scheduled ?
[19:43] <AlanBell> not scheduled yet, things are flexible
[19:44] <ali1234> redtape-renegade: topics are decided on the day
[19:44] <AlanBell> we can leave it running, and there might be other stuff going on that isn't related
[19:44] <ahayzen> is it where the lorry is on Google Street view? in the etc.venues? or is it the next block?
[19:44] <ali1234> it's highly likely raspberry pi will be involved somehow but if not, you can offer to do a presentation yourself
[19:44] <redtape-renegade> Aaah .. I read it is an un-conference type thingy , Oh I get it now .. a kinda drop-in.
[19:44]  * AlanBell has not looked at the venue yet, but I am sure it will be findable
[19:46] <redtape-renegade> So if I get this correct.. it's basically a google  -bash ??
[19:47] <AlanBell> not really
[19:47] <redtape-renegade> oh OK.
[19:47] <AlanBell> the venue happens to belong to Google, and Google hangouts happen to be good video conferencing technology
[19:47] <AlanBell> but other than that Google is uninvolved
[19:48] <ahayzen> AlanBell, who is expected to be attending?
[19:48] <redtape-renegade> Will ubuntupodcast uk be doing interviews on the day for the podcast ?
[19:48] <AlanBell> me \o/
[19:48] <AlanBell> and possibly some others
[19:49] <ahayzen> :)
[19:52] <popey> redtape-renegade: possibly, if one (or more) of us goes
[19:52] <redtape-renegade> popey: cool.
[19:53] <redtape-renegade> cant wait till the 27th.
[20:17]  * redtape-renegade requires a shave .. 
[20:38] <bubu\a> hey dudes, any reason why I'm getting this trying to get to my router on a new isntall of 12.10? ssh: Could not resolve hostname 10.10.0.1:2222: Name or service not known
[20:39] <bubu\a> the ports open and I can ping 10.10.0.1
[20:39] <Azelphur> bubu\a: route -n | pastebinit
[20:41] <bubu\a> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5565843/
[20:41] <bubu\a> looks ok no?
[20:42] <Azelphur> yea, says your router is 10.10.0.1
[20:42] <Azelphur> so, dunno, odd.
[20:42] <bubu\a> i know
[20:42] <bubu\a> wtf
[20:42] <Azelphur> bubu\a: what happens if you telnet 10.10.0.1 22
[20:43] <bubu\a> I can hit it, get the banner
[20:43] <bubu\a> i
[20:44] <Azelphur> that means your ssh server is running on port 22 not 2222 ;)
[20:44] <bubu\a> no its running on 2222
[20:44] <bubu\a> i tenetted to 2222
[20:44] <Azelphur> ah ok, odd then
[20:53]  * dwatkins suspects he is hitting bug 561210
[20:54] <dwatkins> I increases the wsize and rsize sysctl values for a couple network parameters and the system hasn't rebooted itself this time around
[21:04] <redtape-renegade> AlanBell: Profiled haz I ?? https://dl.dropbox.com/u/55128914/Lubuntu%20docs/Singles%20advert.png
[21:18] <redtape-renegade> http://youtu.be/u0I7dByeTt4?t=15m9s Nice .. I want one ...
[21:21] <MartijnVdS> redtape-renegade: three laps around the Isle and it's empty :P
[21:27] <redtape-renegade> MartijnVdS: Haha ! .. I liked your posts earlier .. v. true.
[21:28] <MartijnVdS> Time for sleep.. more openwrt + 802.11s tomorrow :)
[21:30] <redtape-renegade> ok good luck .. my continental friend :)
[21:31] <popey> blimey, he's a terrible public speaker
[21:37] <czajkowski> popey: who is ?
[21:38] <ali1234> the tesla guy
[21:43] <redtape-renegade> popey, true , but he chooses his sentences carefully.. thats why he's a billionaire ..
[21:43] <ali1234> he's a billionaire because he founded paypal
[21:47] <AlanBell> very nice car though
[21:49] <popey> yes, very nice car#
[21:49] <popey> redtape-renegade: he so doesn't choose sentences carefully
[21:51] <AlanBell> that wasn't well rehearsed, he should have had an autocue
[21:52] <popey> yeah
[21:52] <popey> he said a few negative things about the car, which you should never do in a product launch
[21:53] <AlanBell> indeed, he said it was awkward getting into the third row or something
[21:59] <AlanBell> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/17/Elon_Musk.jpg/320px-Elon_Musk.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/31/ZeframCochrane1.jpg you be the judge
[22:01] <popey> hah
[22:42] <dwatkins> ali1234: my machine seems to have stopped rebooting itself since I implemented the sysctl changes in bug 561210, despite it being logged against a much older kernel :)
[22:43] <ali1234> wow... i don't use NFS
[22:43] <ali1234> never had anything but bad experiences with it
[22:44] <dwatkins> ali1234: what do you use to cross-mount filesystems between linux boxen?
[22:44] <ali1234> i don't
[22:44] <dwatkins> ahh :)
[22:44] <ali1234> i just scp everything
[22:44] <ali1234> i only have one "computer" anyway
[22:44] <ali1234> and the mythtv
[22:44] <dwatkins> fair enough, I tend to mount filesystems and use them as an extension to my local disk, keeping media on them etc.
[22:44] <ali1234> but that streams on it's own protocol
[22:45] <ali1234> i have a NAS... it runs samba i guess. i dunno, it just appears in "my network"
[22:45] <dwatkins> I like messing around with getting all my media accessible from every device, including the Raspberry Pi and the xbox.
[22:45] <ali1234> or whatever ubuntu calls it
[22:45] <ali1234> might be using the apple sharing stuff actually
[22:45] <ali1234> it "just works"
[22:45]  * dwatkins nods
[22:45] <dwatkins> I might see if I can mount via AFP, seeing as I have it setup for my laptop
[22:46] <dwatkins> looks like it's not built-in
[22:48] <dwatkins> hmm, that's way too many i386 packages for worrying about at bedtime, will have a look tomorrow, ttfn folks