[00:24] <derekv> Aren't they doing any hiring around that stuff?
[00:26] <rick_h_> on the phone stuff? I'm not sure. We're kept pretty seperate
[00:27] <rick_h_> would just be whatever is on the online jobs listing
[00:36] <snap-l> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9058804/stomp.mp3
[00:36] <snap-l> TOok some samples from a record that i recorded for a co-worker
[01:51] <derekv> i keep finding laptop ram
[01:54] <snap-l> Wis it old laptop ram?
[01:54] <snap-l> derekv:
[01:58] <snap-l> derekv: If it's PC133 144 Pin and you don't need it, let me know, please. :)
[02:12] <derekv> I pretty much started throwing away anything that old
[02:12] <derekv> I'll let you know if I see anything
[02:12] <derekv> its all so-dimm
[02:16] <snap-l> Hmm.
[02:16] <snap-l> Yeah, if you find anything liek that, let me know. My printer takes that memory.
[11:54] <rick_h_> boooooo http://r.bmark.us/u/741a605f4eb6bd and morning
[12:42] <snap-l> rick_h_: Well that was uneventful
[12:58] <rick_h_> snap-l: ?
[13:08] <rick_h_> dammit, two spaces FML
[13:09] <snap-l> rick_h_: re: the webos tenure at HP
[13:09] <snap-l> brb
[13:09] <rick_h_> ah
[13:09] <brousch> Good blog post on Make http://bost.ocks.org/mike/make/
[13:12] <brousch> I had not been using it like that
[13:12] <rick_h_> brousch: like what? automating things?
[13:13] <brousch> I use it to automate, but as a series of commands. I haven't used starting with missing or changed files
[13:13] <rick_h_> ah, yea the missing/changed files is what makes it best
[13:14] <rick_h_> rebuild your css files only if the .sass file has changed or the .css file is missing
[13:14] <brousch> You use sass?
[13:15] <rick_h_> yea, bookie is sass. New work project is less though
[13:15] <rick_h_> https://github.com/mitechie/Bookie/blob/develop/bookie/static/css/readable.scss
[13:16] <brousch> It always feels like overkill when I start a project, then I get half way into it and think, "Damn, I wish I had Sass now"
[13:16] <rick_h_> heh, yea. Definitely one of those 'just use it'
[14:27] <snap-l> Hopefully the new Leopold will be arriving today.
[14:28] <snap-l> At least this time it says it's on a truck.
[14:28] <rick_h_> that's a good sign
[14:28] <snap-l> Yeah. I'm taking a risk and using the keyboard from home here at work
[14:28] <snap-l> going to use the new keyboard at home.
[14:28] <rick_h_> cool
[14:29] <snap-l> http://metal-libre.org/2013/02/metal-libre-org-origins.html
[14:29] <snap-l> Metal music compilation
[15:38]  * rick_h_ wants usb3 for the touareg. Idling in the driveway for 2hrs sucks
[15:39] <snap-l> ?
[15:40] <snap-l> Copying things to the internal drive?
[15:40] <rick_h_> yea
[15:40] <rick_h_> 9 more GB of music today
[15:40] <rick_h_> after 4GB yesterday
[15:40] <rick_h_> have to burn dvds and then copy off the dvds
[15:40] <snap-l> Ugh
[15:40] <rick_h_> so takes forever to write the dvd, then another foreven with the car running in the driveway while it copies over
[15:41] <snap-l> At least it can read DVDs
[15:41] <rick_h_> but once it's loaded can use voice to play albums vs pulling out the phone and hoping I've got a decent mobile connection
[15:41] <rick_h_> yea, it can also do sdcards and I wonder if that would be faster, but I don't have one any more. Only sdcard adapters
[15:41] <snap-l> I have an SD card adapter for micro SD
[15:42] <snap-l> and some microSD cards
[15:42] <snap-l> LMK if you want me to bring 'em to CHC
[15:42] <rick_h_> naw, I've ordered a 64GB sd card to use in the future for things
[15:42] <snap-l> I have the monster 32GB card that JoDee had in her HTC
[15:43] <snap-l> Will that show before Wed night?
[15:43] <rick_h_> yea, tomorrow hopefully
[15:43] <snap-l> kk
[15:43] <rick_h_> but once I get done with these 3 dvds I'll be done for now
[15:53] <brousch> You don't own a SD Card?
[15:53] <brousch> I have about 10 of them
[15:53] <snap-l> Too bad +1s on a comment can't be traded in for anything useful. I got +23 on a comment in an IDE thread for "just use vim"
[16:02] <rick_h_> https://twitter.com/mortice/status/306055627350896640 lol
[16:04] <snap-l> How they know?
[16:19] <jrwren> snap-l: got any microSD cards you don't want or need?
[16:19] <jrwren> i only had 1 SD card for my camera. Then I got a raspberry pi and an mk802 :(
[16:21] <brousch> jrwren: How's your mk802? I have the Plus
[16:21] <jrwren> i have not used it much.
[16:21] <jrwren> android on it sucks.
[16:21] <snap-l> jrwren: Unfortunately not at the moment
[16:22] <jrwren> the wifi on it really sucks.
[16:22] <jrwren> getting linux onto it was nontrivial and I've not invested the time to revisit
[16:22] <snap-l> I do have a 16MB SD card if someone wants it. :)
[16:22] <jrwren> a little too small for linux.
[16:22] <jrwren> i have a 64MB :)
[16:22] <snap-l> Came with my camera
[16:22] <brousch> I thought the Android was OK. I was mostly using it for Netflix
[16:22] <snap-l> I think it would have been better had they just put in a slug
[16:24] <jrwren> i don't do netflix. although it would be fine for that.
[16:24] <jrwren> lack of good remote is a problem for me with mk802
[16:25] <brousch> Sucks that the droidmote thing wasn't in the kernel
[16:25] <rick_h_> everyone ready for snow tomorrow! wheeee 6+" come on
[16:25] <jrwren> and i'd need another android device for that.
[16:25] <jrwren> i don't have another android device
[16:25] <snap-l> rick_h_: Don't remind me
[16:26] <snap-l> Have a board meeting tomorrow
[16:26] <brousch> jrwren: As for Linux, this seems really easy to me https://www.miniand.com/forums/forums/development/topics/install-ubuntu-linux-12-04-now-including-droidmote
[16:26] <snap-l> Does it use LIRC?
[16:31] <jrwren> brousch: sweet, thanks for that.
[16:31] <jrwren> brousch: right, but I need ANOTHER android device to control it. i don' thave that.
[16:31] <brousch> Then you're doing life wrong!
[16:31] <jrwren> exactly.
[16:31] <jrwren> android sucks and I shouldn't have bought it.
[16:32] <jrwren> but I'll get linux on it, and it will be awesome.
[16:32] <dzho> linux is just a kernel
[16:32] <dzho> and android runs it
[16:32] <jrwren> bullshit.
[16:32] <jrwren> or rather: yes, I know, and android is one of the shitties linuxes I've ever used.
[16:32] <dzho> haha
[16:33] <dzho> thank you
[16:33] <jrwren> yw
[16:33] <dzho> I pretty much agree.
[16:33] <jrwren> apple's iOS has a nicer userspace than android
[16:33] <jrwren> and its not linux.
[16:34] <jrwren> i really hope ubuntu phone/tab destroy's android.
[16:34] <jrwren> its technically superior 100X :)
[16:34] <dzho> the way I'm beginning to think about it is that linux can never succeed in the consumer market because if it does, no one will call it linux.
[16:34] <dzho> on the one hand, the consumers who don't give a shit won't call it linux because they don't care.
[16:34] <rick_h_>  /me holds back from the android is not linux rant...
[16:34] <dzho> on the other hand, the people who love linux won't call it linux because it doesn't have that late 20th century BDSM feel.
[16:35] <dzho> we're finally to the point where, once again, RMS is right, though not necessarily for all the reasons he or anyone used to fight about.
[16:36] <dzho> the bit about the name is a distraction.
[16:36] <dzho> I think it's very defensible to use "linux" as a figure-of-speech for the whole magilla.
[16:36] <dzho> so, that's not what I'm talking about, in case that gets anyone's hackles up.
[16:37] <snap-l> Frankly, I couldn't care less what you call it; as long as it has a GNU toolchain and a UNIX-like OS, I'm happy.
[16:37]  * dzho nods at snap-l 
[16:38] <jrwren> snap-l: which android definitely does not.
[16:38] <dzho> quite right.
[16:38] <dzho> denying it is linux though ignores the fact that android-like considerations are leaking over into the mailine kernel.
[16:39] <snap-l> jrwren: I thought it used busybox under the hood?
[16:39] <brousch> But Ubuntu tablet is running Cyanogenmod
[16:39] <dzho> snap-l: it's call toolbox, and it is deliberately not busybox, because busybox is GPL
[16:39] <snap-l> Ah
[16:39] <brousch> You can install busybox
[16:39]  * dzho sees snap-l should have gone to Mike Kasick's talk at OLF2012 ;-)
[16:39] <jrwren> snap-l: it might, but its not gnu libc. its not gnu coreutils and its not anywhere close to DFGL or any other fs layout i've seen
[16:39] <dzho> brousch: you can install lots of different busyboxen
[16:40] <snap-l> dzho: Was busy personing a booth. ;)
[16:40] <jrwren> the "
[16:40] <jrwren> the "android-like considerations" leaking into mainline kernel is usually great. I love better power management
[16:40] <dzho> jrwren: so, you're a fan of the Poettering project?
[16:43] <jrwren> never heard of it
[16:48] <dzho> I guess not strictly in-the-kernel as I thought.
[16:50] <dzho> I'm sort of conflating this http://bsd.slashdot.org/story/11/07/16/0020243/lennart-poettering-bsd-isnt-relevant-anymore  and http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/GNOME-developers-plan-Linux-apps-1798691.html
[16:50] <dzho> the common theme there more being GNOME and what I'm guessing are their Android inferiority complex
[17:10] <dzho> jrwren: it's funny, though, there's no mention of GNOME at all in http://www.kroah.com/log/linux/af_bus.html
[17:47] <rick_h_> snap-l: so there, now completed loading 3dvds of music
[17:47] <rick_h_> just about an hour per disk lol
[17:57] <snap-l> http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/02/javas-latest-security-problems-new-flaw-identified-old-one-attacked
[17:57] <snap-l> rick_h_: Awesome.
[18:38] <greg-g> sprinting sprinting sprinting
[18:47] <rick_h_> greg-g: sprint!
[18:49] <greg-g> rick_h_: 2nd week onboard and it's an all hands in the office for ops/platform
[18:49] <greg-g> I HAVE SO MUCH TO LEARN!
[18:49] <greg-g> E_TOO_MUCH_TO_LEARN
[18:49] <rick_h_> greg-g: good, you won't be bored
[18:49] <rick_h_> if you're not swimming over your head just quit :P
[18:50] <greg-g> :)
[19:00] <snap-l> heh
[20:41] <snap-l> Keyboard delivered. Yay!
[20:41] <snap-l> Now I can also get rid of these damn Windows keys. :)
[20:46] <greg-g> snap-l: what'd you get?
[20:47] <snap-l> Leopold Cherry Black
[20:48] <snap-l> also 2 sets of the blank Windows keys
[21:34] <jrwren> LSB is what I was trying to think of.
[21:34] <jrwren> android is NOT LSB
[23:54] <snap-l> Yay, new keyboard. :)